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TODAY IS MAY THE 14TH, 2025 VETERANS COMMISSION MEETING.
HEY, IT IS FIVE 16 AND WE'RE CALLING UP TO ORDER.
YOUR AGENDA STARTS ON THE BACK OF PAGE WHERE IT SAYS FIVE OF FIVE.
WE HAVE THE ROLL CALL THAT, THAT'S YOUR MINUTES THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ON THE TOP OF THE THING.
THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO GO IN THE OPPOSITE ORDER, BUT THANK YOU FOR I HAVE THREE.
I DON'T HAVE ON THE BACK OF THE MINUTES.
I HAVE OH, THAT, OH, YOU DON'T HAVE A FULL AGENDA RIGHT NEXT TO YOU.
I WAS GONNA SAY, I, I, I HAVE TWO PAGES.
THAT'S YOUR ANNOTATED AGENDA FOR THIS MEETING.
SOMEONE'S GOTTA TELL YOU WHAT TO SAY.
AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS? YES.
SO GO AHEAD AND, UH, DO THE ROLL.
IT'S THE LAST TWO PAGES OF THE LEFT HAND STAPLEY ONE.
THIS IS, I'VE GOT THE ANNOTATED AGENDA.
YOU'VE GOT THE, THE CODE ONE BEHIND THE SCENES ONE.
DO YOU WANNA DO ROLL CALL? DID WE CALL IT TO ORDER? YES.
HE HAS NOT GIVEN HIS OFFICIAL, UH, RESIGNATION TO THE COUNCIL, BUT I WILL PROBABLY TAKE CARE OF THAT.
SO, DO YOU LIKE YOUR PUNCH? THAT WAS AWESOME.
UM, IF YOU COULD PLACE YOUR RIGHT HAND OVER YOUR HEART AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH THE LIBERTY.
JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS.
I DID HAVE A CHANCE TO SIT DOWN WITH MY COUNSELING WOMAN THIS WEEK, WHICH WAS PRETTY COOL TALKING.
I HAD A COFFEE WITH HER FOR A LITTLE BIT, SO THAT WAS COOL.
GOT HER ON BOARD ABOUT CHANGING US TO A AT LARGE COMMISSION.
I CAN BRING IT UP TO MY COUNCILWOMAN WHEN I RUN ACROSS HERE.
YEAH, I COULD VERY WELL SEE HER TOMORROW NIGHT.
WANNA BOARD CHAIR IF WE MAY, IF WE COULD, UM, HAVE YOU COMPLETE YOUR REPORT AND THEN WE COULD GO INTO DISCUSSION IF WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON YOUR CHAIR REPORT.
UM, HER CHIEF OF STAFF'S ON IT AND ALSO IF ANYONE WANTS TO JOIN ME IN, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE, UM, RESOLUTION ABOUT THE DA, UH, HER CHIEF OF STAFF CAN WRITE THE RESOLUTION FOR US.
HE WRITES THESE THINGS ALL THE TIME.
SO ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS GIVE HIM THE BULLET POINTS AND HE WILL CREATE A RESOLUTION.
AND THEN I CAN TAKE AS I CAN TAKE MY PRIVILEGE AT COUNCIL MEETING AS CHAIR ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION AND SPEAK AS CHAIR MM-HMM
AND PRESENT IT TO THEM AND START THE PROCESS.
SO IT'S EASY ENOUGH THAT HE WILL TAKE CARE OF IT FOR US, WHEREAS, AND WHO HAS AND THE FORMAT THAT IT GOES IN.
'CAUSE I HAVE NO, I I COULD READ ONE AND DO IT PROBABLY, BUT NO.
I'M NOT SURE IF WE'RE GONNA BE MARK THE VETERANS, THE L-G-B-T-Q VETERANS ARE MARCHING OR NOT.
'CAUSE THEY PUT US AT POSITION ONE 11.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WE'RE AT THE BACK OF THE PARADE.
IN THE 35 YEARS I'VE BEEN DOING THIS, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG, LONG TIME.
I'VE NEVER MARCHED AT THE BACK OF A PARADE EVER.
AND I TRIED WITH THE CHIEFS OF STAFF OF THE MAYOR AND MIKE
IT'S NOT THE PRIVATE ORGANIZATION, IT'S THE CITY.
SO IT VERY WELL MAY BE THAT WE SAY NO BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHERE WE BELONG.
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WE'VE ALL THE COLOR GUARD BELONGS AT THE BEGINNING, NOT AT POSITION.SO WHAT, WHICH GROUP ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? IT'S A COMBINATION OF THE VA.
IT'S IN UM, IT'S, IT'S A, IT IS A LOOSE ORGANIZATION.
WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR MANY YEARS.
WE'VE BEEN COMING, WE USUALLY CAME TOGETHER UNDER THE VA.
BUT BECAUSE IT'S A VEI KIND OF THING, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO COORDINATE IT ANYMORE.
IF I COULD JUST ASK YOU GUYS TO HONE IT DOWN THIS WEEKEND, BECAUSE IT'S IN MY VERY BACKYARD.
SO
THERE ARE, THERE ARE NO KEYNOTE BANDS AND THEY'VE LOST A COUPLE OF THE STAGES BECAUSE THERE ARE NO MAJOR SPONSORS.
I READ THERE'S TWO STAGES STILL.
FROM WHERE, WHERE I, WHERE I LIVE, IF THEY'RE, I CAN HEAR ALL THE BANDS LIKE EQUAL.
SO WHEN THEY'RE
TWO, I MIGHT BE ABLE TO HAVE THEM COMMENT.
ANY COMMENT? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PORT? TEND, THE PORT USED TO BE ONE OF THE DEI EVERY, THE PORT MAY STILL BE SUPPORTING SOME THINGS.
THERE'S THE MOST APPLE LONG BEACH THINGS ARE STILL DOING STUFF.
A COUPLE BANKS ARE STILL DOING STUFF.
BUT DEI HAS HAD EVERY MAJOR ALCOHOL SPONSOR.
EVERY MAJOR DISNEY'S STILL SHOWING UP.
THEY MIGHT AS WELL PLAY THE FINGER BACK AT, BUT ALL THE OFF ALCOHOL SPONSORS ARE GONE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
SO, SO WHY DID THE SPONSORS LEAVE YOU? THEY WERE THREATENED.
THEY WERE THREATENED BY BY WHO? BY THE PRESIDENT.
HE SAID BASICALLY YOU D YOU DO ANYTHING.
DEII WILL COME BACK TO YOU AND DO.
SO, SO THE PARADE FALLS UNDER DEI? YEP.
I CAN SORT OF SEE THAT LOGIC THERE.
WE'RE DIVERSITY, SO NO, THEY DON'T LIKE THE DIVERSITY.
SO IF I CAN ASK A QUESTION ON THE, UM, UM, ON THE RESOLUTION.
DO WE HAVE TO, UM, DO YOU HAVE A DATE BY ANY CHANCE OF WHEN YOU WOULD UH, WHEN WE WOULD HAVE THIS RESOLUTION GO BEFORE CITY COUNCIL? I WOULD THINK, LET'S SEE, WE'RE IN MAY.
WE MIGHT TAKE JULY OFF IF WE HIT IT READY BY AUGUST.
I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE NUMBER BECAUSE WE COULD WORK ON A LITTLE BIT BETWEEN NOW AND JUNE.
TRY TO GET THE STUFF TO HIM BY JUNE AND WE MAY TAKE JULY OFF 'CAUSE HE'S HAVING SURGERY, SO MM-HMM
THEN IN AUGUST WE KIND OF FINALIZE IT.
SO I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A, A DOABLE TIMELINE.
SO, SO FOR A MEETING IN AUGUST, A CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN AUGUST.
AND, AND I WOULD SAY, JUST TO CONFIRM, ALSO I WOULD CHECK, 'CAUSE LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE THAT CITY COUNCIL TOOK A HIATUS IN AUGUST.
WELL I, UM, SO I HAVE A QUESTION AS WELL.
NO, I WAS, I WAS SAY JUST IF YOU COULD GIVE US A, UM, YEAH, YEAH.
IF WE COULD HAVE A NEXT MONTH, I, WE COULD HAVE NO, I'M JUST SAYING IF WE COULD HAVE IT, UH, ON THE AGENDA PRIOR MM-HMM
TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE RESOLUTION AND THEN MAKE PLANS TO KIND OF BE THERE TO SUPPORT.
WE CAN, THIS, THIS IS AN AGENDA ITEM AT THE END OF THE MEETING, BUT WE, WE MIGHT AS WELL.
NO, I GUESS I'LL TAKE IT UP AT THE END AS WELL.
'CAUSE I'LL, I'LL WE'LL JUST ESTABLISH OUR NEXT LITTLE MEETING ON IT AND IT'LL PROBABLY BE THE YOU TWO 'CAUSE ANGENETTE AND I HAD DISCUSSED MAKE FORMING OUR OWN LITTLE, YOU KNOW, COMMITTEE FOR IT.
I AM GOING TO JUST, UH, COVER THE THINGS THAT, WHEN WE GET TO THE AGENDA AS ITEMS. BUT I DID GO TO COUNCIL LAST NIGHT AND PRESENT ON THE FRANKIE EVANS, UH, EVENTS AND OH, I WATCHED IT FINALLY.
AND, AND I HAD, UH, WE HAD STEVE KRAUS, WHO IS A SURVIVOR AND THE, UM, PRESIDENT OF THE US S FRANKIE EVANS ASSOCIATION.
HIS WIFE AND GRANDDAUGHTER WHO LIVES IN LONG BEACH ALL SHOWED UP.
SO WHEN I WAS PRESENTING THEY STOOD UP, WHICH WAS VERY, VERY NICE.
UH, THE MAYOR WAS VERY, UH, RESPECTFUL AND, AND, YOU KNOW, PRAISED THE COMMISSION AND THE OFFICE AND, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE BUDDIES NOW.
'CAUSE THEY'RE LIKE, HEY GINA, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS? AND, YOU KNOW, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY,
SO THAT WAS A REALLY, UH, REALLY GREAT EXPERIENCE.
UM, THAT'S IT FOR THE STAFF REPORT.
WAS THERE ANY, UM, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENT? MAY, MAY I ASK CHAIR OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.
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UM, GINA, WAS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF THE OTHER CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS? NO, JUST THE, JUST THE MAYOR HIMSELF JUST MADE A FEW NICE COMMENTS AFTER THE THING.IT, IT WAS JUST A PRESENTATION SO IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE, UM, APPROVED OR VOTED ON OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND YOU GAVE THEM, DID YOU GIVE THEM PACKETS? DID YOU I GAVE THE FLYERS.
ANY COMMITMENT FROM ANYONE IN PARTICULAR THAT'S GONNA JOIN? DO YOU HAVE THAT AT THIS TIME? UM, THAT'LL BE, UH, WHEN WE DISCUSS IT AS AN AGENDA.
UM, JUST A NOTE, WE CAN SCRATCH WHERE WE CAN TABLE.
UM, WHICH ONE? NUMBER 20 OR IS IT A NUMBER ON IT? 25 DASH SOMETHING.
IS IT THE HOUSING? YEAH, STEVE.
STEVE SAID THEY WEREN'T READY, SO.
SO JUST START WITH THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
HAS IT ACTUALLY CHANGED TO THAT, THAT THEY ARE WITH ANOTHER PRESENTATION THEY WERE READY TO HAVE? THEY WERE ASKING US FOR SUPPORT TO START MOVING FORWARD.
SO, BUT THEY WEREN'T QUITE READY.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE GENERAL BRUNCH.
I'LL, I'LL GIVE A QUICK 2 CENTS OF WHAT HE TALKED TO ME ABOUT SO YOU GUYS CAN KNOW WHAT I KNOW.
SO WE JUST WON'T ENTERTAIN HIS PRESENTATION.
UH, NUMBER ONE, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE MINUTES FROM APRIL 9TH.
ANY DISCUSSION? ANY CHANGES FROM THE MINUTES? I HAVE DISCUSSION? WOULD I, UM, IF I MAY.
SO MY, I I WOULD LIKE TO JUST SO IT'S NOTED GINA, IT'S JUST, UM, WORDING WHEN WE DISCUSS THE, UM, JUST SO WE CAN HAVE THE, UH, WORDING BE, UM, UH, CLEAR FOR THE NUMBER OF COMMISSIONERS.
RIGHT? SO WE, I THINK THE, UM, THE AGENDA ITEM OR THE ACTION WAS TO KIND OF HAVE IT BE TO SEVEN.
AND THEN THAT WAS THE AGENDA ITEM.
AND ACTUALLY WE SAID TO, WE APPROVED TO HAVE IT REMAIN TO BE NINE.
RIGHT? SO IT WAS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO CHANGE IT TO NINE.
RIGHT? IT'S IN, IT'S IN THE, UM, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT IN THE NOTES? YEAH.
UM, BUT JUST TO MAKE IT, JUST TO MAKE IT, JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR WHAT THE, WHAT THE, UM, WHAT THE, UH, UM, WHAT THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT WAS OR IS.
IT'S JUST, IT'S TO RETAIN NINE, UH, COMMISSIONERS AND IF WE HAVE A OVERLAP OF WHERE THERE'S NO MORE THAN TWO TO KIND OF IN, IN A DISTRICT TO ROUND OUT THE NINE, RIGHT? MM-HMM
WHAT WE SAID, THE, THE WAY WE PRESENTED IS WE WERE BECOMING AN OUT LARGE COMMISSION.
WITH A MEMBER OF THE, WITH A TOTAL OF NINE MEMBERS.
NO MORE THAN TWO FROM ANY ONE COUNCIL DISTRICT.
BUT IT WOULD BUT TO CHANGE FROM US BEING DISTRICT IS TO HAVE IT, I THINK WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, IF WE EXPAND IT, SO THERE'S NINE AND THEN WE HAVE, SO WE GO TO DISTRICTS AND HAVE TWO THAT ARE AT, AT LARGE.
NO, YOU SAID THAT'S TO GO AND CHANGE.
THAT WOULD CHANGE OUR CHARTER.
NO, IT'S, UM, THE, THE CHARTER OF THE CITY.
IT'S, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TERM LIMITS.
THAT WAS THE TERM LIMITS DISCUSSION.
TALKING ABOUT GOING BEYOND THE EIGHT YEARS AND CHANGING HOW TERMS WORK WE CAN BECOME IN THAT LARGE COMMISSION.
THERE'S PLENTY OF THAT LARGE COMMISSIONS IN THE CITY THERE.
WE ALREADY HAVE PASSED THE DEBT ON THAT.
SO WE'RE JUST GONNA CHANGE OUR FORM FROM BEING OUR, HOW WE WERE CHARTERED TO BECOME AT LARGE COMMISSION.
WE'RE GONNA KEEP OUR COUNT, WHICH IS NINE.
WE ARE, WE'RE ALREADY SET UP FOR NINE.
AND WE'RE GONNA PUT THE CAVEAT IN THERE THAT NO MORE THAN TWO MEMBERS FROM ANY ONE DISTRICT.
SO IT DOESN'T GET CONTROLLED BY ANY COUNCILMAN WHO'S REALLY GOOD AT GETTING MEMBERS.
'CAUSE YOU COULD GET, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE ARE BETTER AT IT.
AND THEN YOU HAVE MORE AND THEY CAN GET FIVE MEMBERS AND IT'S LIKE, NO, WE DON'T WANT THAT.
SO THEN, SO AGAIN, IT'S HAVING, IT HAVING US TO REMAIN AT DISTRICTS.
AND LET'S JUST SAY FOR EXAMPLE, OH, AND I'LL JUST USE ANTOINETTE BECAUSE WE THROUGHOUT, WE JUST SEEM TO HAVE HAD PROBLEMS WITH GETTING SOME, LIKE A SOMEBODY TO, TO MAKE A REAL COMMITMENT IN DISTRICT SIX.
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SO IF IT, IF IT'S NECESSARY, AND LET'S JUST SAY YOU HAVE LIKE ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT THERE'S TWO MEMBERS IN DISTRICT SIX OR MAYBE THAT THERE'S NO REPRESENTATION IN DISTRICT SIX.YOU CAN HAVE TWO MEMBERS IN ANOTHER DISTRICT TO KIND OF ROUND OUT THE NINE MM-HMM
AND BUT IT'S NOT GOING, IT'S NOT HAVING US BE AT LARGE.
BECAUSE TO REMAIN AT LARGE, YES.
WE'RE GONNA BE CHOSEN AT LARGE.
THE CHOOSING WILL BE DONE BY THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AND IF POSSIBLE YOU CAN HAVE TWO IN A DISTRICT, BUT NO MORE THAN TWOS.
THAT'S NOT, WE DISCUSSED, WE DISCUSSED THE AT LARGE.
AND IT IS ALSO ON THIS AGENDA SO WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT IT.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE DISCUSSING AN ITEM WHEN WE'RE SUPPOSED TO JUST TO BE APPROVING THE MINUTES.
SO THE MINUTES I DON'T SEE AS NEEDING TO BE CHANGED.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL WE'LL HOLD IT FOR THE, OKAY.
ANY, ANY, UM, OTHER COMMENT TO THE MINUTES? UM, ON THE MINUTES? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE APRIL MINUTES? SAY AYE.
I DO ALSO ENCOURAGE YOU TO ACTUALLY READ THEM.
'CAUSE I DO SPEND QUALITY TIME MAKING THEM VERY NICE.
WE GOTTA GET YOU TO CUT 'EM DOWN.
OH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRETTY SHORT COMPARED TO US TAKING ALMOST TWO HOURS TO DISCUSS IT.
THEY'RE PRETTY TO THE BONE HARBOR COMMISSION.
IT CAME OUT WITH A BOOK THAT THICK, THAT WAS OUR MEETING FROM THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING AND ALL THE ITEMS, EVERY TWO WEEKS.
THEY NEED TO BE, THEY NEED TO BE SENT THE BOOK ON WRITING MINUTES BECAUSE THAT'S NOT MINUTES.
THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S JUST A LOT OF, THAT'S JUST A LOT OF DISCUSSION.
I SEE, UM, RECOMMENDATION, RECEIVE AND FILE A DISCUSSION OF VETERANS BANNER PROGRAM AND THE IN-PERSON MEDIA EVENTS.
UM, SO THAT PROGRAM, WE ALL KNOW WE'VE CHOSEN CHOICES HAVE BEEN MADE.
SO WE GOT OUR 60, WE'VE GOT OUR ALTERNATES, WE'RE READY TO GO WITH THAT.
NOW WE'RE ON TO NEXT PHASE, WHICH IS GETTING PHOTOGRAPHS, WHICH THEY'VE GONE THROUGH AND CHECKED WHAT WE HAVE.
AND OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE ABOUT WHAT ARE WE MISSING AND WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO ABOUT GETTING WHAT WE'RE MISSING.
AND IF WE WANT, WE, IF WE HAVE GOOD PHOTOGRAPHS, WE CAN START RELEASING THEM TO THE PRINTER AND SAYING THEY HAVE ALL, THEY HAVE TO BE DESIGNED AT ONCE AND SENT TO THE PRINTER AT ONCE.
THEY'LL CHARGE US MORE UNFORTUNATELY.
'CAUSE THEY'RE, THAT'S HOW IT IS.
I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE EASIER, BUT THAT'S ME.
UM, SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH THE BANNERS.
WE HAD A GREAT, I THINK WE HAD A GOOD PROCESS.
WE ALL NEXT YEAR WE'LL HAVE AN, WE'LL HAVE AN AFTER ACTION ON IT.
SOMETIME END OF THE YEAR WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT ONCE IT'S UP AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT WE CAN DO BETTER.
AND, UH, THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE HERE BEFORE THE MEETING GOT STARTED, I GOT TO SHOW SOME OF THE BANNER PHOTOS AND THE DIFFERENT QUALITY.
AND MY COMMENT IS THAT WE MAY CONSIDER REQUIRING A PHOTO TO BE SUBMITTED BUT NOT HAVE IT BE THE SOLE CRITERIA.
BECAUSE OUT OF 60 THAT YOU CHOSE ONLY 24 ACTUALLY SUBMITTED PHOTOS.
SO THAT MEANS 36, WELL, IT'S ACTUALLY LESS THAN THAT 34 TO TRACK DOWN, BECAUSE REMEMBER WE HAVE THE ONE THAT'S GONNA BE THE US AS FRANKIE EVANS AND THE ONE THAT WE'RE USING FROM LAST YEAR THAT WE ALREADY HAVE A PHOTO FROM.
SO OF THOSE 24 PHOTOS THAT WERE SUBMITTED, ABOUT 10 OF THEM HAD QUESTIONABLE QUALITY.
SO OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS, I'VE SPENT TIME REACHING OUT TO EACH ONE OF THEM, BUT PROVIDING MUCH MORE DETAIL AND EVEN TALKING TO SOME ON THE PHONE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO BLOW UP TO 2.5 BY 3.5 FEET.
SO COULD YOU PROVIDE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS? YOU KNOW, WHERE WE SEE THE SHOULDERS, THE HEAD AND THE UPPER CHEST? 'CAUSE THERE'S JUST ONES WITH HEAD CUT OFF OR, UH, REALLY OLD AND FUZZY OR REALLY SMALL AND PIXELATED.
SO IT CONTINUES TO BE AN ISSUE.
UM, BUT MOST PEOPLE HAVE BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SAY, WELL, THE SECOND PHOTO YOU SENT DOESN'T REALLY WORK EITHER.
AND WE'RE GONNA DO OUR BEST TO WORK WITH WHAT WE HAVE, BUT WE DEFINITELY SPENT TIME REACHING OUT TO EVERYONE AND NOW WE'RE GONNA REACH OUT TO EVERYONE THAT NEVER SENT A PHOTO AT ALL.
AND, UH, TOMORROW, AND THEY HAVE TWO OPTIONS.
ONE IS TO SCAN THEIR PHOTO AND WE GET VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT IT.
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WANT TO GET IT SCANNED AT A PROFESSIONAL PLACE, GO TO ROM X AND SIGNAL HILL.WE ALSO OFFER, THE OPTION IS THAT WE WILL BE HAVING A PHOTO SHOOT ON WEDNESDAY THE 21ST AT CITY HALL WITH THE MAYOR'S PHOTOGRAPHER.
SO THEY'RE GONNA BE PROVIDED WITH PARKING PASSES.
THEY'RE GONNA BE PROVIDED WITH A WINDOW SHOW UP BETWEEN ONE AND ONE 30 OR TWO AND WHATEVER IT IS.
UM, AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE THE END OF IT.
MEANING WE WON'T STILL HAVE STRAGGLERS THAT DON'T SHOW UP AND DON'T, BUT, BUT WE HAVE OUR ALTERNATES FROM THERE.
THE ALTERNATES HAVE ALSO BEEN ANALYZED FOR THE QUALITY OF PHOTOS.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE STILL LEARNING FROM ALL OF THIS.
NO, WE'LL TALK WE'LL, THAT'S A, THAT'S A SUBCOMMITTEE THING, SO, SO THE, WE'LL GET, WE'LL GET INTO MORE DEPTH IN THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
SO JUST TO CONFIRM, SO THE PHOTO DAY IS MAY 21ST, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT, MM-HMM
AND THEN WHAT THE IN-PERSON MEDIA EVENT THING WAS, IS THAT WE WERE GONNA HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE LONG BEACH AIRPORT COME AND SPEAK WITH US BECAUSE I ACTUALLY MET WITH HER ABOUT HAVING AN EVENT AT THE LONG BEACH AIRPORT, BUT THEY SAID IT COULD, IT WASN'T GONNA BE LIKE A PUBLIC EVENT.
IT WOULD BE MORE OF A, A PRESS CONFERENCE TYPE EVENT IN THE CELL PHONE LOT.
AND ALL THAT SOUNDED GREAT TO ME.
BUT THEN OUR PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICE FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT SAID THE STATE OF MEDIA IN LONG BEACH IS SO CRAPPY RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S LIKE 2.5 REPORTERS, UH, IN THE WHOLE CITY WOULD BETWEEN THE LONG BEACH POST AND THE PRESS TELEGRAM.
AND IT'S VERY SAD BECAUSE, SO WHEN WE HAD ONE OF 'EM SITTING IN OUR MEDIA, THAT WAS RARE LAST MONTH, WE WERE REALLY PRIVILEGED.
AND THAT MADE ME VERY SAD BECAUSE I'M A LEGACY MEDIA GIRL AGAIN.
I STILL READ THE NEWSPAPER AND WHAT HAVE YOU AND, UM, PRESS TELE.
I KNOW IT'S VERY SAD WHEN A MAJOR CITY WITH A HALF A MILLION PEOPLE IN IT CAN'T HAVE FUNCTIONING JOURNALISM.
AND THE ALTERNATIVES ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, SOCIAL MEDIA AND, UH, YOU KNOW, INFLUENCERS OR WHATEVER.
IT'S, IT'S JUST A, IT'S A SAD STATE BECAUSE I STILL THINK NEWSPAPERS, I'M WEARING THE NEWSPAPERS.
I BRING THE PEOPLE WHO STOPPED BUYING IT.
IN MY BUILDING OF LIKE A HUNDRED PEOPLE.
I THINK I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT STILL GETS A NEWSPAPER DELIVERED TO MY FRONT DOOR.
IF I COULD HAVE A QUESTION DURING DISCUSSION.
SO WE ARE NOT HAVING A, AN IN-PERSON PRESSER TYPE EVENT.
UM, BUT I WANNA, WE DON'T HAVE TO DECIDE THIS NOW, BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE AS A COMMISSION WANNA ORGANIZE ON OUR OWN, I, THERE MIGHT BE A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT LIKE A MEET AND GREET WITH THE PEOPLE WHOSE BANNER IS UP LIKE IN A PUBLIC PARK, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO ORGANIZE.
BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT ONE OF YOU WANTS TO PROPOSE WITHIN THIS MEETING, WE SAY THAT WE WANT TO DO IT, AND THEN YOU TAKE ON AND THEN, THEN I ASSIST.
I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, UM, THANK YOU CHAIR, UM, LAST YEAR, WHO DID THE, UM, THE VIDEO? REMEMBER WE DID THE VIDEO LAST YEAR ON INSTAGRAM? THE LITTLE, THE SHORT LITTLE VIDEO, THE PROMO.
REMEMBER WE DID THE VIDEO OF THE, UM, OF THE BANNERS? UH, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? YEAH, BUT IT WAS JUST A LITTLE SEVEN SECOND THING ON INSTAGRAM.
BUT WHO BUT WHO DID THAT? THAT'S, THAT'S OUR PAO OUR PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICE.
SO THE PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICE DID THAT.
IS THERE A WAY POSSIBLY, UM, I KNOW YOU SAID LIKE THE PRESS TELEGRAM, UM, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT MAYBE WE CAN GET WHATEVER THIS DEPARTMENT IS OR GROUP AT, UM, AT CAL STATE LONG BEACH TO DO IT? I REMEMBER THERE'S A, THERE'S A WHOLE, UH, ALMOST LIKE A, A LITTLE SMALL, UH, STUDIO ON, ON THEIR CAMPUS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY CONTACTS THERE? NO.
I WAS, I WAS LIKE A, LIKE A, A STUDENT JOURNALISM KIND OF THING.
LIKE A YEAH, LIKE A STUDENT JOURNALISM.
THEY, THE NEWSPAPER EVEN WHEN I WAS THERE CALLED THE 49 ER.
IT'S PROBABLY NOT THE 49 ER ANYMORE.
SPEAKING OF WHICH, THE GUY WHO DOES THE 5 6 2 WHO DOES ALL THE SPORTS, LET'S REACH OUT TO REACH OUT TO HIM AND SEE IF THEY COULD DO IT.
5 6 2 OR WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE YOU SAID? THE, UM, UH, I'M, I'M GONNA PUT IT DOWN AS MEDIA ARTS AT CAL STATE LONG BEACH.
UM, THE PUBLIC AFFAIR, THE PUBLIC AFFAIRS FOR THE CITY AND OR HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WHAT CAPACITY DO THEY HAVE FOR DOING LIKE THAT RIGHT NOW? A VIDEO? YEAH.
RIGHT NOW THEIR CAPACITY IS LIMITED BECAUSE THE MAIN PERSON THAT DID VIDEOS IS OUT ON MATERNITY LEAVE.
SHE'LL BE BACK ON SEPTEMBER 1ST.
DOESN'T MEAN THAT ALL HOPE IS LOST THOUGH, BECAUSE WE HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH LONG BEACH TV.
SO IF WE PROPOSE KIND OF WHAT WE WANT IN THE VIDEO YEAH.
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TV COULD CREATE WHAT THEY CALL AN EYE CLIP AND THEY PUT IT, YOU KNOW, IT GOES ON SOCIAL MEDIA, IT GOES ON, UM, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? THEIR, THEIR YOUTUBE CHANNEL AND THIS AND THAT.SO HOW ABOUT YOU PROPOSE TO THEM AND ONE OF THEIR EYE CLIPS MM-HMM
DUDE AS A FRANKIE EVANS TIE IN, GET THE FRANKIE EVANS PEOPLE, THE FRANKIE EVANS BANNER, AND THEN THE BANNER PROGRAM ITSELF AS THEY'RE GOING UP, WHETHER THEY'RE UP OR AS THEY'RE GOING UP, WHATEVER.
AND THEN WE USE THAT AND PUT THAT ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA AND PUT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S OUR WAY TO PUBLICIZE MM-HMM
THAT IT GOES OUT THERE IN A MINUTE.
THAT COULD PROBABLY GET US MORE EYES THEN WE MIGHT GET ON A SPONSOR.
JUST THROW IT, GET IT OUT THERE AND PEOPLE START SHARING IT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ORGANIC THAT GOES OUT.
BUT THE PORT, UM, THE AIRPORT AND THE PORT AREN'T, DON'T THEY FALL UNDERNEATH THE SAME, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE PARKS.
I KNOW WE HAVE LIKE THE PARKS AND MARINE, YOU KNOW, MARITIME, THEY KIND OF FALL UNDERNEATH THE SAME, THE SAME, NOT SEPARATE.
YEAH, I KNOW, BUT I'M JUST SAYING.
BUT WHERE DOES THE, WHERE DOES THE AIRPORT FALL? AND AND THE REASON WHY I'M SAYING THAT IS BECAUSE WHATEVER THAT WHOEVER THAT, WHEREVER THEY FALL UNDER, IF WE COULD MAYBE SEE IF THEY HAVE LIKE MEDIA, PUBLIC AFFAIRS TYPE.
THE BIG DEPARTMENTS DO HAVE THEIR OWN PUBLIC AFFAIRS, BUT WE ALL FEED IN THE SAME, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CITY SOCIAL MEDIA AND THEN INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS HAVE THEIR OWN SOCIAL MEDIA MM-HMM
SO WE CERTAINLY CAN CREATE OUR OWN STUFF AND ASK THEM TO SHARE IT AND PUSH IT OUT AS WELL.
SO, SO JUST POINT OF CLARIFICATION, I BROUGHT UP THE VIDEO BECAUSE TO PROMOTE THE EVENT AND ALSO TOO FOR THE BANNERS, I WOULD SAY FOR THE BANNERS AND ALSO FOR THE FREAKY EVANS, I THINK WE GOT LIKE A LOT OF INTEREST AND A LOT OF RESPONSE FROM THE VIDEO.
THE SECOND PART WHAT I WAS SAYING, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT HAVING PUBLIC AFFAIRS OR PUBLIC RELATIONS DO AN EVENT FOR WHAT? THE BANNERS FOR THE YES.
BECAUSE THE, WE ARE DOING A, THE, THE US FRANKIE EVANS IS ITS OWN SEPARATE EVENT.
WELL THAT'S NOT WHAT HE, HE SAID TO TIE THE FRANKIE EVANS BANNER.
THAT'S BANNER NUMBER 60 WITH THE EYE CLIP, WHICH I THINK IS A GREAT IDEA.
SO IF YOU RECALL THE VIDEO, THE SECOND SEVEN SECONDS LAST YEAR, IT WAS A TREE THAT OPENED ON THE BANNER WAS A REALLY NICE, AND IT DID GET SOME GOOD MEDIA.
WELL HE GIVES US LIKE A 20 OR 30 SECONDS.
AND IT GIVES, BECAUSE YOU WANT TO GIVE HIM A STORY TO TELL.
THERE IS SOME DIFFERENT CONTENT.
YOU GIVE 'EM A STORY THAT THEY DON'T HAVE.
THEY CAN TELL THE STORY OF FRANKIE EVANS REAL QUICK.
THEY CAN TALK TO THE GUY WHO'S A SURVIVOR, WHATEVER.
DO A QUICK TWO SECOND INTERVIEW OR WHATEVER, SHOW THE BANNER, SHOW THE REST OF THE BANNERS.
AND ALSO JUST ANOTHER THING, I THINK WE SUBMIT THIS AS AN A, B, C SALUTES.
THEY HAVE, WE SHOULD SUBMIT THE STORY AND THIS WHOLE PROGRAM THING TO A, B, C SALUTES.
BECAUSE THAT GOES TO EVERYBODY THAT'S WATCHING A, B, C NEWS.
WELL THAT'S WHERE WE CAN USE THAT PIECE TOO.
WE CAN, ONCE WE GET IT, WE CAN THROW IT UP TO THEM AND SAY, HEY, WE'VE, WE DID THIS AND HERE'S A, HERE'S SOME FREE WORK.
YOU KNOW, THE STUFF YOU MAKE EASY FOR THEM ON A SLOW NEWS DAY.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR ON SLOW NEWS DAYS.
WHEN I DID MY RELEASES, I ALWAYS DID THEM ON LIKE TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY.
'CAUSE THERE'S NOTHING HAPPENING.
AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO THROW THEIR PEOPLE AT.
SO, UH, JUST TO SUMMARIZE, DO YOU HAVE AN INTEREST IN ORGANIZING SOMETHING TO BRING THE BANNER FAMILIES TOGETHER? IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE RIGHT WHEN THEY GO UP.
'CAUSE THEY'RE UP FOR A WHOLE YEAR.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S ONE I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT NEXT TIME I'M AT THE, AT THE VA.
SEE IF THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING SINCE WE'RE GONNA TRY TO SEGREGATE SEGMENT THEM AS THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CONNECTED TO THE VA SOMEHOW THAT THERE'S GO TO THE VA THAT MAYBE THE VA PUBLIC AFFAIRS WANTS TO DO SOME KIND OF LITTLE THING AT THE ANCHOR AT THE BACK END.
BECAUSE, BECAUSE THEY'LL BE RIGHT THERE.
THERE'LL BE TWO OR THREE BANNERS RIGHT THERE.
AND THAT THEY COULD HAVE SOME LITTLE EVENT OF THEIR OWN AT THE ANCHOR.
MAYBE IT'S AT, UM, MEMORIAL, IT'S AT VETERANS DAY.
YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE BACK, YOU KNOW, MIGHT BE A LITTLE FURTHER ALONG, BUT IT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S UP TO THEM.
WHEN DO THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING? BUT I'LL SUGGEST IT TO THEM BECAUSE THEY, IT MIGHT BE A GOOD TIE IN.
IT COULD BE BECAUSE THERE, SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE STAFF MEMBERS.
SOME OF THEM WORK THERE, SOME OF THEM GET TREATMENT THERE.
IT'S A GOOD FEEL GOOD OPPORTUNITY.
FOR THEM TO RECOGNIZE SOME OF THEIR OWN.
I THINK IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO GET
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ALL THE BANNER PEOPLE TOGETHER BECAUSE WE'RE AT THREE LOCATIONS.YOU KNOW, IF WE ALL SHOWED UP AT THE VA, THERE WOULD BE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE THERE.
WE'LL, NEVER WHERE'S MY NO, NO, NO.
WE WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO THAT.
YEAH, YOU DON'T WANT, IT'S GONNA BE A SEGMENTED KIND OF THING.
IF YOU, YOU DON'T WANT, WE'D JUST WORK ON WHERE'S ON THIS LITTLE GROUP HERE.
SAY YOU YOU, YOU WE'RE GONNA HELP.
WE'RE GONNA BE THERE AND WORK WITH YOU ON IT.
BUT WE THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
AND MAYBE THEY DO IT OR TIE OR CHECK.
WE CAN CHECK THEIR CALENDAR AND SEE IF WE CAN KIND OF TIE IT INTO AN EVENT THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE SCHEDULED.
LIKE ON, UM, THEIR, THEIR OKAY.
SO AN EVENT, MAYBE SOMETHING YOU GET TOGETHER BUT NOT A PRIORITY AT THIS TIME.
JUST KEEP PUTTING IT ON THE SCHEDULE AND WE'LL JUST KEEP SEEING WHERE IT GOES.
WE NEED TO GET A MOTION TO REPRO MOVE.
WE'RE OUT OF WHAT WE DID THAT OUT OF BOARD ANYWAY.
SO, UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ALL AYE.
AGAINST ABSTAINS MOVING RIGHT ALONG.
I THINK NICK SHOULD JUST BE THE MOTION OR T HE'S THE MOTION CHAIR.
I, YOU KNOW, BEING CHAIR OF THE GOLDSTAR MATTER.
SO I I KNOW I'M JUST JUMPED IN NOW.
I'M TOTALLY GIVING YOU A HARD TIME.
UM, NUMBER THREE, RECOMMENDATION THROUGH TO RECEIVE AND FILE DISCUSSION ON THE COMMEMORATION OF THE FRANKIE EVANS FOR JUNE 3RD.
JUST COMING UP IN A FEW WEEKS.
IT'S FOUR WEEKS FROM YESTERDAY.
SO I'M GONNA SHARE THIS WITH YOU FOR FUN.
OH, THAT'S THE VERSION WITH MY NOTES ON IT.
I'M, I'M NOT GONNA WORRY ABOUT THE VIEW RIGHT NOW, BUT, UH, LEST WE FORGET THE CITY OF LONG BEACH DECLARES JUNE 3RD, 2025 US SAYS FRANKIE EVANS LOST 74 DAY, UH, THERE'S A, THIS IS A SHIP OF IT ACTUALLY LEAVING THE OUTER HARBOR IN LONG BEACH IN PROBABLY THE 1940S.
EVAN'S INVOLVED IN THE COLLISION WITH THE HMAS, MELBOURNE AND SOUTH CHINA SEA OFF THE COAST OF VIETNAM, 74 SAILORS PARISH.
THEN WE SHOWED A FEW PICTURES OF PAST EVENTS AND THERE'S STORIES BEHIND ALL OF 'EM.
THIS IS AN ACTUAL NAVY, UNITED STATES NAVY OFFICER AND AN AUSTRALIAN NAVY OFFICER.
THEN IT SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO GIVE TO THE CAMPAIGN TO RAISE THE 15,000 TO INSTALL, TO DESIGN, PRINT, AND INSTALL THE METAL SIGNS AT THE SEVEN 10 AND PCH.
UH, YOU GET A MEMORIAL, LIKE IT'S LIKE LICENSE PLATE SIZE, LIKE A LITTLE KEEPSAKE.
AND THEN I HAD THE, AS THE LAST SLIDE, THE, UM, THE FLYER.
SO OF COURSE MARK YOUR CALENDARS REMEMBERING USS FRANKIE EVANS, COMMEMORATING LONG BEACH NAVAL HISTORY.
TUESDAY, JUNE 3RD, 10:00 AM TO 1:00 PM THE CEREMONY BASICALLY AT 10.
IT'S TOMMY BURGER, WHICH MAKES MY GUT HURT JUST THINKING ABOUT IT.
UH, LIVE MUSIC, UH, HIGHWAY SIGN, DEDICATION INFORMATION BOOTHS WITH THE PORT AS A SPONSOR.
UM, THERE'S THE, THE BASICS ON, UM, THAT IT'S IN SHORELINE AQUATIC PARK, THERE'S THE PARKING SPOTS, ET CETERA.
SO THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOWED THE CITY COUNCIL.
THIS IS WHAT I SHOWED THE CITY COUNCIL.
UM, SO MY NEXT QUESTION IS IF, UH, WE WILL HAVE REAL HARD COPY FLYERS, UH, NEXT WEEK, PROBABLY ON THURSDAY.
SO AS FAR AS GETTING THE FLYERS TO CENTURY VILLAGES, AMERICAN GOLD STAR, THE VA LONG BEACH, WHO IS WILLING TO COME AND PICK UP FLYERS NEXT WEEK? QUESTION.
UM, I, I'LL NO, I WON'T BE HERE, BUT SAVE ME A PACKET.
I'LL COME AND I'LL PICK THEM UP WHEN YOU HAVE AVAILABLE.
BUT MY QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK, IN ADDITION TO THOSE LOCATIONS, DID WE EVER GET A, UM, IS IT APPROVED NOW SO WE CAN GO OUT IN THE DIFFERENT CITY COUNCIL'S, UH, NEWSLETTER? YES.
I, I AUTOMATICALLY SEND ONE TO ALL THE DISTRICTS, DISTRICTS ONE THROUGH NINE SO THEY CAN PUT IN THEIR NEWSLETTER.
WHAT WERE YOU GONNA SAY? DID YOU HAVE SOME? OKAY.
BECAUSE THAT'S, I'M JUST SAYING WITH THEM COMING UP, UM, WE DON'T WANT IT TO GET BURIED IN THIS.
IS THIS, THE MEDIA RELEASE ITSELF CAME OUT UHHUH AS SOON AS THE MEDIA RELEASE GOES OUT, WHICH IT DID ON, UH, MAY 7TH.
IF WE GO TO LONG BEACH.GOV/VETERANS, THIS IS WHAT OUR WEBSITE LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW.
IT HAS THE FRANKIE EVANS, OOPS, SORRY.
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RIGHT AT THE TOP REMEMBERING US IS FRANKIE EVANS LOST 74.SO THERE'S A LITTLE BLURB ABOUT THE EVENT.
THIS IS ON OUR, AND LOOK AT THAT PICTURE.
AREN'T THEY SO SWEET? THE OLD THE OLD COMMISSIONERS BACK IN THE DAY.
UM, THAT'S OUR LITTLE LANDING PAGE.
AND THEN IF WE GO TO THE MEDIA RELEASE ITSELF, THAT'S THE MEDIA RELEASE.
SO ONCE THIS MEDIA RELEASE IS OUT, AND IT CAME OUT ON, UM, WEDNESDAY, THE 7TH OF MAY, VERY LATE IN THE AFTERNOON, WE'RE FREE TO PROMOTE IT ANYWHERE, ANY PLACE.
AND IF NOT, I'LL SAY SOMETHING.
OH, ON, ON YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS? WELL, BECAUSE THEY COME, UH, YEAH, JOANIE SENDS HER, HERS COMES OUT ON FRIDAY.
MOST COUNCIL MEMBERS PUT OUT THE NEWSLETTERS ON FRIDAY.
I I GET THREE OR FOUR OF 'EM, I THINK, AND SHE'D BE ON FRIDAY.
AND I DEFINITELY WANT A LOT OF THEM.
OUR MEMORIAL DAY CELEBRATION IS THE 23RD NEXT FRIDAY.
WHAT? I HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, I LOOKED FOR IT BECAUSE I WANTED TO PUT IT IN OUR LITTLE NEWSLETTER THAT ONLY GOES OUT TO 200, BUT I COULDN'T FIND ANY.
I KNOW IT'S KIND OF CONTROLLED.
RIGHT? YOU INVITE CERTAIN PEOPLE.
WE'LL GET YOU EVERYTHING YOU WANT.
'CAUSE I'D LIKE TO, AND I DON'T KNOW IF SHE WANTS TO COME PICK UP FLYERS 'CAUSE SHE'LL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE SURE THEY GET OUT THERE.
OR ELSE I'LL COME TOGETHER AND CHECK.
I'M, YEAH, IF, IF I DON'T GET, I MEAN, 'CAUSE WE'RE EXPECTING THREE TO 400 PEOPLE.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE TO REPORT ON THAT? UM, WHO, YOU SAID THAT YOU WANT FLYERS FOR AMERICAN GOLD FOR MATTER.
YOU WANT THEM FOR THE VA? THAT CAN, I'VE GOTTEN THE POLICE WATER TO APPOINTMENTS COMING UP.
SO, AND ANTOINETTE, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO TAKE 'EM TO CENTURY VILLAGES? YEAH.
I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHEN THEY'RE GONNA BE HERE.
THEY SHOULD BE IN HAND NEXT THURSDAY THE 22ND.
CAN, ARE YOU, ARE ANY OF YOU GONNA BE ABLE TO COME TO THE EVENT AT AMERICAN GOLD STAR MEDAL ON FRIDAY? YOU PROBABLY HAVE TO WORK, RIGHT? MM-HMM
BECAUSE I WAS GONNA SAY I COULD BRING THEM, YOU KNOW, A STACK OF 'EM TO THAT EVENT.
NOT ONLY FOR YOUR EVENT, BUT TO PASS THAT TO ALL Y'ALL.
BUT, UM, YOU LIVE IN DISTRICT SIX, RIGHT? SO I COULD LIKE ON FRIDAY, LIKE STOP BY OR SOMETHING.
AND, UH, DEPENDS WHAT YOU, WHAT TIME, WHATEVER WORKS FOR YOU ON THE 23RD.
MEAN I'LL, I'LL HAVE, WELL WE WE'RE GETTING 3000 OF THEM PRINTED.
SO THEY'RE GOING OUT TO PARKS AND REC.
THEY'RE GOING OUT TO THE LIBRARIES, THE USUAL, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT STILL APPRECIATE PAPER FLYERS.
AND THEN YOU, UM, ALL OF YOU, I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD ALSO BE SENDING EMAILS TO PEOPLE THAT HAVE, THAT INCLUDE THE LINK TO THE MEDIA RELEASE AND THE FLYER.
I'LL, I'LL PREPARE SOMETHING FOR YOU, BUT ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS PUSH IT OUT.
SO THAT CARRIER PUT BIG MARKS ON IT, HULL EACH TIME IT HIT A DESTROYER.
AND I'LL TAKE HIM TO, UM, THE, UM, THE, UM, RON IRIS AND UH, DORIS TOP.
AND, YOU KNOW, LIGHTING AROUND THE OTHER BASIS.
WHATEVER BUSINESSES YOU WANNA STICK IN.
SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE 22ND, 23RD AND EVEN THE 24TH, WHICH IS A SATURDAY.
I'M WILLING TO DROP THEM OFF TO YOU OR HAVE YOU MEET ME SOMEWHERE OR LEAVE THEM ON MY PORCH OR WHATEVER.
'CAUSE I'M BASICALLY, UM, AT PARAMOUNT AND CARSON.
SO NOT TOO, TOO FAR FROM HERE.
THAT CONCLUDES THE YEAH, YOU CAN PUT 'EM ON MY, CAN YOU LEAVE ME A PACKET PLEASE? I'M SORRY.
LEAVE ME A PACKET HERE AT HEALTH.
YOU COULD ALSO PICK 'EM UP HERE AT HEALTH.
IF I DON'T GET YOU, UM, IF YOU, IF WE CANNOT DO IT ON THE 19TH, IF YOU COULD LEAVE ME A PACKET BECAUSE I'M, I'M NOT GONNA BE HERE.
SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD FROM THIS WITH THIS.
MOTION TO APPROVE REPORT OR FILE APPROVE.
RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE PRESENTATION ON PROPOSED HOUSING PROJECT DEBT.
UM, THEY WERE GETTING TO THE POINT OF WANTING US TO SUPPORT.
THEY WERE GONNA BRING IN SOME BASIC DRONE RENDERINGS AND NOT THE FINALS.
'CAUSE THEY NEED TO GO THROUGH PLANNING AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.
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TO THE POINT WHERE THEY HAVE SOME GOOD RENDERINGS AND HOW IT'S GONNA LOOK AND ALL THAT.SO, BUT THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO GET 'EM PRINTED IN TIME.
YOU HAVE, WE TABLE IT FOR JUNE.
I THINK WE STILL NEED A MOTION FOR THAT.
DISCUSSION THAT WE DISCUSSED IN OUT OF ORDER.
SO I KNOW, BUT UH, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? WELL, I CAN, WE, WE CAN HOLD SO WE CAN'T DISCUSS YOUR COMMENT.
WE CAN UM, IT GOES BACK TO, UM, THE RESOLUTION AND, AND WE, I'M SORRY NOT THE RESOLUTION.
WE WERE ALSO DISCUSSING DRAFTING OUR LETTER OF SUPPORT.
THERE'S NOTHING TO, TO DO UNTIL WE HAVE THE PLANS PRESENTED TO US.
THE THE ORDER OF OPERATION WILL BE SEEING HIM AGREEING HIM WRITING A LETTER.
'CAUSE WE GOT TO SEE WHAT WE'RE AGREEING TO.
THEN WE HAVE A LETTER OF SUPPORT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO, SO LETTER OF SUPPORT.
WE'RE DO HIS, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA GET HIS FINAL, WE'RE GONNA REVIEW HIS FINAL PRESENTATION.
WE'RE GONNA REVIEW HIS CURRENT PRESENTATION.
NOT THE, IT'S NOT THE FINAL PLAN.
SAFE STILL HAVE TO GO TO THE CITY.
SO HIS CURRENT PLANS, AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO US, WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT IT.
IF WE LIKE IT, WE'RE GOING TO SAY WE SUPPORT IT AND THEN WE'LL WORK ON GETTING A LETTER FORWARD TO THAT.
THEY CAN AND THEY CAN USE OUR MINUTES.
THEY DON'T REALLY EVEN NEED A LETTER.
THEY CAN USE OUR MINUTES SAYING, YOU KNOW, THE, THIS COMMISSION SAYS WE HAVE SUPPORTED US.
AND THEY TAKE IT FORWARD WITH OUR OFFICIAL MINUTES SAYING WE ARE, THEY HAVE OUR SUPPORT.
WE CAN WRITE SOME, BUT SOMETHING MORE OFFICIAL.
BUT WE DISCUSS PREVIOUSLY THAT WE WERE GOING TO, UH, SUBMIT A LETTER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN SUPPORT OF THIS HOUSING PROJECT.
BUT I THINK WHAT'S THE WAY IT'S GONNA OP, THE WAY THE CYCLE'S GONNA RUN MM-HMM
IS WE'RE GONNA GIVE THEM A SUPPORT LETTER AND THEY WILL TAKE IT AS THEY TAKE IT TO WHEREVER THEY NEED IT, AS IT GOES ALONG THROUGH THE CITY PROCESSES.
'CAUSE IT'LL GO TO MORE THAN ONE PLACE AT A TIME.
IT'S GONNA I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW THE PROCESS.
I KNOW, BUT I'M JUST SAYING OUR, OUR LETTER OF SUPPORT IS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
OUR LETTER OF SUPPORT IS IN GEN IS A GENERAL LETTER OF SUPPORT, I THINK.
BUT IT GOES TO THE OUR, WHAT WE WERE INSTRUCTED, LIKE THE PROCESS WOULD BE FOR US TO HAVE IT GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND WHEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS IT AGENDAS IS THAT WE WOULD ALSO BE THERE AND SPEAK ON THAT AGENDA ITEM WITH OUR LETTER OF SUPPORT.
I WOULD SAY WE WAIT UNTIL JUNE AND ASK THE PEOPLE THEMSELVES.
'CAUSE YOU'RE ASKING ME A QUESTION.
'CAUSE I COULD SAY SOMETHING AND IF I'M WRONG, YOU'RE GONNA, WE'RE RUNNING DOWN THE WRONG TRAIL.
SO LET'S WAIT FOR THEM TO PRESENT TO US NEXT MONTH AND SEE HOW, WHAT THEY NEED FROM US, WHAT SPECIFICALLY AT THIS POINT THEY WOULD LIKE US TO DO.
AND THEN WE CAN REACT TO THAT.
I GET WHAT I REMEMBER WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
AND THAT'S, I THINK WE'RE ONE STEP AHEAD.
ONCE WE GET TO LOOKING AT THEM, ONCE WE GET TO REVIEWING THEM AND WE'VE SAID YES, THEN THEY CAN TELL US, THIS IS WHAT I NEED.
AND THEN WE CAN REACT BY CREATING WHATEVER THAT IS IF WE AGREE AND THEN GIVING IT TO THEM TO USE TO MOVE DOWN THE CHAIN.
THAT WAS THE ONLY QUESTION THAT I HAD ON THAT.
SORRY, THIS DIDN'T END UP WITH THE NUMBERS ON IT.
SEE I HAVE KIND OF LOOKED BACK AND FORTH.
UM, THIS IS THE RECOMMENDATION ON TO RECEIVE AND FILE A DISCUSSION.
OH YEAH, WE JUST DID, WE DID THAT ALREADY ON POTENTIAL CHANGES.
THIS IS ON POTENTIAL CHANGES TO OUR CHARTER 22.60.
UM, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO READ, WE CAN ALL READ IT OURSELVES VERSUS READING IT OUT LOUD.
WELL, I HAVE TO, I WANT TO SHOW YOU SOMETHING.
ARE YOU GONNA SHOW US? I'M JUST GONNA HAVE TO GO LOOK THAT UP.
SO THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE SAYS THE VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMISSION SHALL CONSIST OF NINE MEMBERS.
THERE SHALL BE AT LEAST ONE MEMBER REPRESENTING EACH OF THE NINE COUNCIL MANIC.
THAT WAS ON, THAT WAS ON, UM, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, ONLINE? I DON'T KNOW HOW IT GOT AN IC IN IT.
IT'S ON, IT'S A STATE WEBSITE AND IT HAS COUNCIL MANIC.
AT LEAST FOUR MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION SHALL BE VETERANS.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION SHALL HAVE A CONCERN FOR AND DEDICATION TO THE NEEDS OF VETERANS IN THE CITY.
SO HERE'S HOW WE PROPOSE TO CHANGE IT,
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AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LITTLE DISCUSSION.OF COURSE, THE VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMISSION SHALL ASSIST OF NINE AT LARGE MEMBERS, FOUR OF WHOM SHALL BE VETERANS.
NO MORE THAN TWO COMMISSIONERS MAY RESIDE IN THE SAME COUNCIL.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, AGAIN, SHALL DEMONSTRATE A CONCERN FOR AND DEDICATION TO THE NEEDS OF VETERANS IN THE CITY.
SO MY QUESTION TO YOU, OR THOUGHT AS A STAFF PERSON IS THAT, UM, THE ATTORNEY SAID THAT WE COULDN'T HAVE PUBLIC MEET MEMBERS ON SUBCOMMITTEES WHERE I'VE CHEATED AND THOUGHT THAT I COULD BECAUSE APPARENTLY YOU NEED TO BE VETTED AS A COMMISSIONER.
SO JUST ALLOWING THE PUBLIC THAT HASN'T DONE ALL THEIR REQUIREMENTS, YOU KNOW, AND BEEN, UM, BACKGROUND CHECKED AND FORM 700 AND ALL THAT BS.
UM, UM, I WANTED TO JUST ASK BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, IS THAT WE HAVE ONLY FIVE MEMBERS NOW, AND AS YOU KNOW, WE, UM, EVEN THE NEW MEMBERS LIKE JAMES SHOTTER DIDN'T STICK WITH IT AND NEITHER DID VIC.
UM, I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER HIS LAST NAME RIGHT NOW.
UM, THE POINT IS, IS THAT DO WE STILL WANT TO CONSIDER DOING NINE MEMBERS OR DO WE WANT TO POSSIBLY CONSIDER DOING SEVEN? AND THEN MY QUESTION TOO IS ABOUT QUORUM.
LIKE IF WE HAVE SEVEN MEMBERS, THEN FOUR IS QUORUM.
IF YOU HAVE NINE MEMBERS, FIVE IS QUORUM.
SO SEVEN MIGHT, YOU KNOW, SEVEN IS VERY SMALL.
BUT, SO I HAVE A THOUGHT ON THAT WITH THE VETERANS COMMISSION.
SHALL YOU LOOK AT IT THE OTHER WAY.
IF YOU HAVE SEVEN, THEN YOU CAN HAVE THREE MISSING.
IF YOU HAVE NINE, YOU CAN HAVE FOUR MISSING.
THAT'S GLASS HALF FULL OR EMPTY.
THE VETERANS COMMISSION SHALL CONSIST OF A MINIMUM OF SEVEN AND MAXIMUM NINE AT LARGE MEMBERS.
THAT MIGHT BE A, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? LIKE, AS SOON AS YOU PUT THAT, THEN WHY WOULD WE EVER HAVE MORE THAN SEVEN? YEAH, BUT YOU PUT A MINIMUM IN THERE AND, AND WHAT HAPPENS IF WE ONLY HAVE SIX SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A COMMISSION UNTIL WE GET A SEVENTH.
IT'S LIKE, JUST HAVE, UM, JUST TO REVISE IT.
IF I'M, IF I MAY, IF WE'RE A DISCUSSION YEAH.
WE'RE A DISCUSSION IS TO HAVE IT, UM, SO UP AT THE TOP WHERE IT SAYS, UM, COMMISSIONERS, YOU KNOW, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM EACH DISTRICT AND WHERE YOU COULD HAVE MORE THAN, NO MORE THAN TWO FOR EACH DISTRICT.
SO IF THERE'S NOBODY IN SIX, AND LET'S JUST SAY NOW TO KIND OF ROUND OUT THE NUMBER FOR QUORUM, YOU PUT IT OUT AND YOU HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE THAT HAS EXPRESSED AN INTEREST OR APPLIED, SAY IN DISTRICT SEVEN OR DISTRICT FIVE.
SO NOW THAT GIVES YOU STILL THE SAME NUMBER BECAUSE NOW YOU DON'T HAVE, SO NOW YOU'RE AT MAX FOR THE SEVENTH DISTRICT.
AND, AND IT STILL SATISFIES THE NUMBER OF HAVING DISTRICT REPRESENTATION.
IF THERE, IF THERE'S NOBODY, IF THERE'S NOBODY WHO'S WILLING TO STEP UP AND BE CONSISTENT IN A PARTICULAR DISTRICT, THEN THAT PUT THE, THAT DISTRICT DOESN'T HAVE ANYBODY.
SO AM I NOT BEING CLEAR TO WHAT I'M SAYING? WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING.
YOU'RE JUST SAYING IT IN A DIFFERENT MANNER.
SO WHAT I, WHAT I'M SAYING, I, I STILL, I NEED, I, I WOULD LIKE FOR THE WORDING, I THINK IT SHOULD BE WHERE THERE IS IF WE'RE, 'CAUSE WE'RE RIGHT NOW WE'RE DISTRICTS.
AND, AND AND YOU KNOW HOW IT IS WHEN YOU, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU HAVE, WHEN YOU HAVE LIKE AT LARGE, NOW YOU HAVE A CLUSTER OF PEOPLE AND NOW YOU DON'T HAVE THE, NOW THE, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF NOT HAVING COMPLETE REPRESENTATION IN THE CITY.
IN, IN, IN A, IN A PARTICULAR AREA.
BUT, BUT IT'S BY DEFAULT, LET'S JUST SAY, BECAUSE THERE'S NOBODY IN A PARTICULAR DISTRICT THAT'S WILLING TO BE CONSISTENT AND BE DEDICATED.
BUT THERE, YOU STILL HAVE A SEAT FOR A PA A PARTICULAR DISTRICT EACH IN, IN AN AT LARGE COMMISSION WHEN IT'S LIMITED TO TWO SEATS PER LIMIT OF TWO MM-HMM
EVERY COMM, EVERY DISTRICT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY THROUGH THEIR COUNCIL PERSON TO BRING SOMEBODY FORWARD MM-HMM
IT IS IN THE LAP OF THE COMMISSIONER.
I MEAN, IT SHOULD BE OF THE COUNCIL PERSON TO DO THEIR JOB AND GET PEOPLE HERE.
AND IF THEY'RE NOT DOING IT, IT'S NOT A BIG PRIORITY FOR THEM.
THEN WE AS A COMMISSION NEED BODIES.
I THINK BECAUSE IT'S NOT GONNA GET BOUND BY ONE GROUP BECAUSE THE LIMIT OF TWO, YOU'D STILL HAVE IT, IT STILL WOULDN'T BE CONTROLLED BY ANY ONE COUNCIL DISTRICT.
YOU COULD END UP WITH FIVE COUNCIL DISTRICT, YOU HAVE FIVE COUNCIL DISTRICTS, YOU COULD
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END UP WITH FIVE COUNCIL DISTRICT, FIVE COUNCIL DISTRICTS REPRESENTED LIKE WE DO NOW.AND THEN JUST TO SAY, NOW, IF SOMEBODY TO KIND OF ROUND IT OUT, LET'S JUST SAY IF SOMEBODY ELSE IN SIX WANTS TO, UH, APPLY AND YOU HAVE ANOTHER CANDIDATE THAT IS A VERY GOOD PERSON, VERY VIABLE, COMMITTED.
SO NOW WE CAN HAVE REPRESENTATION, WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER MEMBER THAT REPRESENTS SIX TO KIND OF MAKE US DISTRICT SIX.
NOW WE HAVE MAYBE SEVEN PEOPLE BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE COMES UP.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
AND IF WE'RE ALL AGREEING, I, I THINK WE'RE A SMALL ENOUGH CITY IN A SMALL ENOUGH GROUP IN THIS 500, 480,000 PEOPLE IN OUR CITY THAT WE JUST NEED PEOPLE TO HELP MAKE THIS WORK.
'CAUSE EVEN IF IT WAS DOWN TO FIVE DISTRICTS WITH TWO PEOPLE EACH, AND THEY WERE ALL IN ONE LITTLE AREA, AT LEAST WE'D HAVE NINE PEOPLE HERE TO, TO SERVE THE VETERANS AND TO TRY TO HELP VETERANS AND TO TRY TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD.
WOULD IT BE NICE TO HAVE IT SOME OTHER WAY? INGRAINED? YEAH.
BUT IT DOESN'T WORK THE DISTRICT.
YOU KNOW IT, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND IT.
YOU SAT THROUGH IT FOR A YEAR.
MY DISTRICT DOESN'T WORK FOR US.
AND WE, I YOU HAD, YOU HAD FIVE DISTRICTS REPRESENTED.
SOMEONE FROM ANOTHER DISTRICT WANTS TO, THEY CAN APPLY.
AND WHEN AN OPENING HAPPENS, RIGHT, THEY, YOU PUT YEAH.
THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, BE, WE WOULD HOLD THEM IN STAFF, WE WOULD HOLD THEM AS A NICE PERSON.
YOU LIMITED IT TO NINE AND YOU LIMIT IT TO MAXIMUM TWO FROM ANY ONE DISTRICT.
IF YOU SCROLL UP TO THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S IT.
OH, CHANGE THE ONE DOWN ONE RIGHT THERE.
THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT MAKES SENSE.
AND IT'S SIMPLE ENOUGH THAT IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
AND JEFF WILLIAMS, WHO IS THE MAYOR'S DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, HE APPROVES THIS, HE'S ACTUALLY MENTIONED IT TO THE MAYOR.
HE'S TRYING TO GET THE MAYOR TO BUY IN BECAUSE CLEARLY IT IS NOT WORKING.
IT, IT'S NOT, IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET ONE FROM EVERY DISTRICT AS WE ALREADY KNOW.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP IN A PREVIOUS DISCUSSION ON THIS IS THAT WE COULD INFORMA INFORMALLY TELL SOMEONE TO CHECK IN WITH BOTH, WITH, LIKE, SAY YOU'RE IN DISTRICT SEVEN AND THERE'S NO ONE IN DISTRICT EIGHT, YOU ON YOUR OWN SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, AS, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SOMEONE FROM DISTRICT EIGHT, I'M GONNA MAKE SURE I CHECK IN WITH THE DISTRICT EIGHT COUNCIL MEMBER TOO.
SO WE COULD HAVE SOME INFORMAL ARRANGEMENT BETWEEN US.
WELL, SOME, SOME COUNCIL DISTRICTS ARE BETTER AT IT THAN OTHERS.
IT TURNS OUT NOT
SHE HAS MORE PEOPLE ON MORE COMMISSIONS THAN ANYBODY BECAUSE HER GROUP ACTUALLY HAS, HER STAFF FOCUSES ON IT AND GETS PEOPLE.
BUT THAT'S, EACH STAFF, EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT HAS DIFFERENT PRIORITIES.
AND IF THAT'S NOT A HIGH ON THE PRIORITY LIST FOR THEM TO DO, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
AND IT GETS POLI TOO POLITICAL TOO.
I MEAN, AS ANTOINETTE IS A FINE EXAMPLE.
YOU'RE THE, YOU'RE THE, YOU'RE THE POSTER.
SHE STARTED HANGING OUT, STARTED HELPING US, WE STARTED GOING OUT AND PARTYING SHE AND I EVERY FRIDAY NIGHT.
UM, AND IT TOOK MONTHS TO, FOR HER COUNCIL DISTRICT TO RECOGNIZE THAT SHE WAS THE ONLY APPLICANT OR, OR THE BEST APPLICANT, WHATEVER IT WAS.
BUT WE, ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT CONSISTENTLY WE FIND THAT IT'S GOTTA BE A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT CARES AND THAT TAKES IT SERIOUSLY OR PRIORITIZES VETERANS.
AND WE'RE NOT SEEING THAT IN THE MEANTIME.
SO IF WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH CLOSING DISCUSSION, MAKING THE MOTION AND SAYING, THIS IS WHAT WE WANNA PROPOSE, WE'LL DO THAT.
AND I WOULD CONSULT WITH THE, UM, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? THE CITY ATTORNEY ON, ON THE NEXT STEPS, THE APPROPRIATE LANGUAGE.
YOU KNOW, LIKE, HERE'S THE OLD ONE, HERE'S THE NEW ONE.
MEANING WE'RE NOT PROPOSING THAT WE CHANGE WHAT OUR ROLES ARE OR, OR THE, THE ROLES ARE STILL THE SAME.
THAT OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IS TO ADVISE CITY COUNCIL ON MATTERS OF IMPORTANCE TO THE LONG BEACH VETERANS COM, COM COMMUNITY, WHATEVER FORM THAT TAKES.
AND I WOULD ALSO STRESS, AND I I KNOW YOU SAID YOU TALKED TO JEFF, I'VE ALSO TALKED TO JEFF THOUGH, THE WHOLE, THE SOLE PURPOSE IS BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN CHALLENGING TO MAKE QUORUM.
AND IN ORDER TO, UH, ACT AS A COMMISSION OR DO FUNCTIONS OF A, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF ADVISORY, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO, I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO DO THAT.
WELL, WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT THAT IN THE, IN THE PROPOSAL.
NO, I, I MEAN, I DIDN'T SAY IN THE PROPOSAL.
I'M JUST SAYING WHEN YOU ARE, WHEN YOU ARE SPEAKING TO JEFF TO IMPRESS UPON HIM
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THE REASON WHY THAT WE'RE REQUESTING THE CHANGE AND WITH THE, UM, ATTORNEY, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD AS ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM IS TO LOOK AT, UH, CHANGING.SO IT'S, SO YOU HAVE, SO YOU HAVE THOSE THAT ARE FOR TERM, AND THEN YOU HAVE SAY MAYBE TWO COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE AT LARGE.
BECAUSE NOW THOSE ARE, BECAUSE NOW WE, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED.
I, I JUST SAID TO HAVE IT BE AS A FUTURE AGENDA.
SO YOU WANT TO WANT ME TO WAIT UNTIL WE GET DOWN TO THE, IS IT A, IS A, IS IT A CHANGE OF THE CHANGE? NO, IT'S NOT A CHANGE OF THE CHANGE.
WELL, IN THE FUTURE, YOU'RE PLANNING ON CHANGING WHAT WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON TO RIGHT NOW? YEAH.
I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM.
I'M JUST NOT SURE WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
SO DID WE, DID WE MOTION AND SECOND THIS ALREADY? UM, WE DONE THE DISCUSSION.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? ARE WE PRETTY CLEAR? THAT'S THE PARAGRAPH WE'RE LOOKING AT.
ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE HIGHLIGHTED PARAGRAPH.
AND JUST FOR ONE LAST SHOT AT DISCUSSION ANYMORE.
YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN GOING TO THESE COMMISSION MEETINGS FOR A YEAR NOW AND I'VE NEVER HEARD A NO
NO, I'M WAITING FOR THE FIRST ONE FOR SOMEBODY TO SAY NAY.
WELL, YOU DIDN'T OVERLAP WITH SYLVIA, OR YOU WOULD'VE HEARD A LOT OF NO.
SO MY, MY THOUGHT IS THAT WE LEAVE IT AT NINE BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE RIGHT IN THE SENSE THAT WE ARE QUORUM.
SO I NEED ALL FIVE OF YOU HERE FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER PERSON COMING ON A BOARD IN JUNE, WHICH WHOM I BELIEVE IS DISTRICT EIGHT.
MEANING WE HAVE TO KEEP PLAYING BY THE RULES UNTIL THIS IS OFFICIALLY APPROVED.
SO I WILL GET, YOU KNOW, WORD FROM, FROM UM, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
LIKE DOES IT GO TO THE FULL COUNCIL? DOES IT GO TO SOME SUBGROUP? WHATEVER IT IS, WE'LL FIND OUT AND WE'LL BE PREPARED FOR THAT.
THIS IS WHEN I'M
RECEIVE AND FILE A DISCUSSION ON A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL IN SUPPORT OF KEEPING LONG BEACH VETERANS ADMINISTRATION.
WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IS THE, UM, RESOLUTION.
WE JUST DID SIX THEN, THEN THE NUMBERINGS WRONG WITH MINE.
Y'ALL KNOW WHAT NUMBER? IT'S
UM, YOU TWO WERE WORKING ON THAT, CORRECT? ANTOINETTE, WERE YOU TWO WORKING? WERE YOU WELL, WE SAID THAT WE WOULD ABOUT HAVING A SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HELP WITH THE LETTER.
BUT YOU JUST MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT OKAY, WHAT THE ALL WE HAVE TO DO MM-HMM
IS COME UP WITH THE BULLET POINTS.
SO IF WE COME UP WITH A LIST OF BULLET POINTS, SO IF WHOEVER WANTS TO HELP, THAT'S TOGETHER BY THE NEXT MEETING WE COME UP WITH THE BULLET POINTS.
I CAN GET THEM TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF OF CD THREE.
HE'LL WRITE THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION FOR US.
AND THEN WE CAN LOOK AT THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION IN AUGUST.
AND IF WE LIKE IT, WE CAN ACT, YOU KNOW, I CAN TAKE IT TO THE, AT ONE OF THE AUGUST MEETINGS OF THE COUNCIL IF THEY'RE MEETING IN AUGUST.
IF THEY'RE NOT, IT'LL BE IN SEPTEMBER.
UH, TAKE IT IN SEPTEMBER TO THE COUNCIL AND PROPOSE IT TO MOVE UP THE CHAIN AND BEFORE THAT MAKING, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST SENDING COPIES OUT BEFORE THAT SO WE CAN KIND OF GREASE THE WHEELS A LITTLE BIT.
AND IT, THE CITY COUNCIL IS NOT OPPOSED TO PUTTING A, POKING A FINGER IN THE EYE OF THE ADMINISTRATION RIGHT NOW FOR ALL THE STUFF'S BEEN GOING ON.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO BE TOTALLY SANITARY AND NICE AND YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WE CAN BE REAL, WE CAN ACTUALLY BE VERY REAL IN WHAT WE SAY.
SO WHAT, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS? SOMETHING? IS THERE A THREAT? YES.
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THEY ALREADY ARE.THEY'RE TRYING TO PRIVATIZE OUR VA DO.
OH, PRIVATIZE WHAT? THE VA WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE TAKING THE DOCTOR BELOW LEVELS AND PARTLY THE OH, OKAY.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NATIONAL BEDROOMS ADMINISTRATION? YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT OUR COMMISSION.
I, I UNDERSTAND YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, CAN YOU STATE THE ORIGINAL 'CAUSE IT WAS ON THE AGENDA FOR LAST TIME.
CAN YOU JUST GO BACK AND REDO THAT AGAIN? RE KIND OF THE, WHAT MY, THIS IS, SO TO ME, THIS IS JUST PURELY ME.
'CAUSE IT HAPPENED TO ME IN THE HOSPITAL.
I WAS TALKING TO ONE OF MY DOCTORS AND SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT DURING THE BUYOUT WHERE THEY ASKED EVERYBODY PLEASE LEAVE OR WE'LL FIRE YOU.
AND SHE SAID HER SUPERVISOR TOLD HER, YOU MAY SEE YOUR JOB ON AND D AS A PRIVATE COMPANY TAKING HER JOB, YOU COULD REAPPLY FOR YOUR OWN JOB FOR LESS WITH THE PRIVATE COMPANY BECAUSE THEY WANT TO PRIVATIZE IT.
THEY WANT TO GET RID OF ALL THE UNDER DOCTOR LEVEL.
LAST ALL THE CLINICIANS AND SUCH.
AND THAT'S BS AND THEY SOMEHOW THINK THAT IT'S BROKE.
SO WE SHOULD HAVE LESS DOCTORS AND NURSES AND SUCH.
SO, SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION.
WE WE'RE AFTER WE WERE, WE RE WE PUT THE RESOLUTION TOGETHER.
I, I JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND YOU.
WELL, AND ALSO IF I, IF I MAY SAY AS STAFF, I WOULD WELCOME JUST FIVE MINUTES RIGHT NOW FOR YOU GUYS TO TELL ME THE BULLET POINTS, SO TO SPEAK.
LIKE WHAT, WHAT DOES THE VA DO FOR THE VET FOR VETERANS? LIKE, JUST SHOUT IT OUT BECAUSE WE'RE BASICALLY SAYING THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING THREATENED RIGHT NOW.
SO IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE A TEST.
NOT REALLY A TESTIMONIAL, BUT IT'S SAYING WE'RE ALL, YOU'RE ALL VETERANS IN THIS ROOM.
WHETHER OR NOT YOU'VE AVAILED YOURSELF OF YOUR, YOUR RIGHT AS A VETERAN TO THE SERVICES AT THE VA.
IF YOU JUST WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE PUTTING IT OFF AND PUTTING, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE COULD WRAP REALLY QUICKLY IF WE JUST MM-HMM
SO IF YOU GUYS RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK, HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANNA THROW OUT? YES.
UM, HAVING THE AVAILABLE STAFF FOR YOU TO SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT TO SPEAK WITH SOMEONE REGARDING YOUR BENEFITS.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S MAJOR.
THE PTSD CENTER WAS ONE OF THE FIRST TO DEAL FOR OUR VIETNAM VETS AND EVERYBODY ELSE IN GETTING TREATMENT.
ONE OF THE FIRST WHAT? ONE OF THE FIRST CENTERS FOR PTSD TREATMENT.
OUR SPINAL, THE SPINAL CENTER.
ONE OF THE FINEST SPINAL CENTERS IN THE COUNTRY WHERE SERVICE MEMBERS COME FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
WE HAVE THE, WHAT'S THAT? THE PLACE WHERE THEY STAY.
THE FISHER HOUSE WHERE FAMILIES CAN STAY WITH THEIR LOVED ONES DURING SURGERY AND AFTER, AND THEY RECOVER FASTER.
THE PHARMACY WHERE THEY DEAL WITH MAIL IN AND ALL OF OUR PEOPLE GETTING THEIR DRUGS.
IT'S THE AND FUNDING FOR HOUSING.
LIKE VA HOME LOANS OR? NO, JUST THE, UM, WHAT WE UH, WHAT IS IT CALLED AGAIN? LIKE THE VASH.
DEALING WITH VASH CERTIFICATES, HELPING HOMELESS VETERANS GET HOUSING, UM, DEALING WITH DISABLED DEBTS OF ALL AGES.
GET THEIR SERVICES IN A RESPECTFUL MANNER.
AND IF IT, AND IF SERVICES AREN'T AVAILABLE, REFERRING PEOPLE OUTSIDE YEAH.
THAT'S WHY THROUGH TIMELY IN THERE BECAUSE YEAH.
PEOPLE HAVE, THE PEOPLE WHO COMPLAIN TO VA ARE THE OLDER VETS WHO'VE NEVER HAD TO WORK ON THE OUTSIDE, WHO'VE NEVER HAD TO HAVE CIGNA KAISER OR WHATEVER.
BECAUSE I'VE HAD ALL THE GOLD PLATED ONES AND NONE OF 'EM ARE AS GOOD AS THIS.
LET THAT, YOU KNOW, I GOTTA WAIT JUST AS LONG OR LONGER.
AND I WAS AT UCLA, I WAS ATS CEDARS.
I MEAN THESE ARE TOP WORLD CLASS PLACES AND YET STILL HAD TO WAIT.
AND THEN SOME OF 'EM ON THE ECONOMY, WHICH IS WHAT WE CALL, THEY'RE NOT SUPPORTING.
UH, UM, I KNOW THIS IS LIKE, NOT THE VA, BUT KIND OF LIKE WHAT KEN IS SAYING, FOR YOU TO GO OUT AND USE, SAY, UM, ON THE MARKET HEALTHCARE SYSTEM, THEY'RE NOT TAKING THAT BENEFIT ANY LONGER.
SO NOW YOU HAVE MORE VETERANS THAT ARE GOING TO THE VA TO RECEIVE THOSE
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MEDICAL SERVICES.HELP HELPING VETERANS RECENTLY RELEASED FROM SERVICE HAVE MEDICAL, UM, UH, WHAT'S THAT? THE RECENT ONE THEY JUST PASSED PACK ACT.
SUPPORTING VETERANS UNDER THE PACK ACT.
WHICH MEANS IF THEY WERE EXPOSED TO AGENT ORANGE, IF THEY WERE EXPOSED TO ANY OF A NUMBER AND THEY EXPAND THAT TO OTHER TOXINS AND ALL THESE OTHER TOXINS WE USED IN WAR TO GET SERVICES TO HANDLE DISABILITY CLAIMS. THAT'S WHAT YOU DO, RIGHT? YEAH.
SERVICE CONNECTED DISABLED, UH, SERVICE CONNECTED CLAIMS TO HELP PEOPLE THROUGH THAT PRO.
THEY HELP PEOPLE THROUGH THAT PROCESS TO COORDINATE WITH VETERAN SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS TO PROVIDE, UM, PROVIDE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICE, PROVIDE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES TO OUR VETERANS IN LONG BEACH.
YOU SAID VSOS, RIGHT? YOU, YOU KNOW WHO SET UP THE VA IN THE FIRST PLACE, RIGHT? ANYBODY KNOW? VERY FAMOUS FIGURE.
OH, LINCOLN LINCOLN ESTABLISHED HERE.
LITERALLY
UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR? WE GOT SOME GOOD, WE GOT SOME THINGS TO ROLL WITH.
UM, I GOT SOME THINGS TO KIND OF GET MY MIND GOING.
WE WILL DO A LITTLE LOOKY-LOO.
WE'LL SEND IT ON TO, UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO PUT IT OFF BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT THE VA PROVIDES.
WE KNOW ON THE GROUND LEVEL YOU'D GO TO THEIR WEBSITE.
BUT STILL I WANTED TO KNOW HERE YOU CAN ADD TOO.
AND, AND ANOTHER ONE TOO IS, UM, EDUCATIONAL BENEFITS FOR, FOR VETERANS.
TAKING THOSE, THOSE, UH, SERVICE SKILLS AND APPLYING THOSE TWO JOBS.
'CAUSE IT'S DEFINITELY DIRECT CORRELATION INTO EMPLOYMENT AND TIES INTO HOW HOMELESSNESS AS WELL HELPING PEOPLE GET ESTABLISHED IN VA SYSTEM.
WITH THAT WHOLE DESK YOU GO TO FIRST WHERE YOU GET YOUR, YOU LOOK AT ALL YOUR STUFF AND SEE WHO YOU ARE AND GET YOUR RATINGS AND THE INTAKES.
YOU KNOW, THEY, AND WE HAVE ONE OF THE MOST MOD LONG BEACH VA IS ONE OF THE MOST MODERN, UP TO DATE EFFICIENT MM-HMM
PROVIDING AN ADDITIONAL 200 BEDS FOR EMERGENCY SERVICE TO THE CITY OF LONG BEACH.
DURING COVID, THE VA WAS STANDING BY WITH BEDS READY.
SO IF OUR CITY RAN OUT OF BEDS FOR PEOPLE WITH COVID AND IT GOT BAD, THEY WERE SITTING THERE, THEY WERE WAITING READY.
ASIDE FROM DEALING WITH LIKE ME, I WAS COVID, I GOT COVID, I WAS WITH THE VA, BUT THEY WERE READY TO SUPPORT VETERANS OR NOT EVEN VETERANS.
THEY'RE READY TO SUPPORT PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH WITH COVID, IF NECESSARY WITH THEIR DOCTORS, THEIR MEDICINES AND THEIR BEDS.
WELL, WE GOT A GOOD THING ON THAT.
WE COULD, UM, MOVE ON WITH THE, UM, RECEIVING FILE OR WHATEVER WE'RE DOING HERE.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING ON THIS? YEAH.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? RECEIVE FILE WORK ON IT AND, AND THIS RESOLUTION.
SO, SO WITH THIS RESOLUTION, AGAIN, IT'S TO, UM, GIVING, UM, OUR CHAIR ONCE IT'S FINALIZED TO PRESENT AT CITY COUNCIL, REPRESENTING THE, THE COMMISSION.
THE IDEA IS IT'S GONNA START HERE AND THEN HOPEFULLY IT GOES UP FROM OUR CITY TO COUNTY, FROM OUR COUNTY TO STATE, FROM OUR STATE TO CONGRESSMAN GARCIA AND THEN THE SENATOR AND MOVES UP THE CHAIN JUST TO SHOW SOME, YOU KNOW, THE VA GETS BEAT ON ENOUGH.
IT WOULD BE NICE TO SHOW SOME SUPPORT AT A NATIONAL LEVEL THROUGH ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT, NOT, NOT EVERY PLACE IS TROUBLED THAT WE'VE GOT A REALLY GREAT FACILITY HERE AND WE, WE CARE ABOUT THEM.
WELL, THERE ARE MORE VETERANS.
IT'S A GREAT STATEMENT TO OUR VA THAT WE CARE THAT WE AS THE CITY REALLY CARE ABOUT THEM.
THERE ARE MORE VETERANS IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA THAN ANY OTHER STATE.
'CAUSE WE'RE ALSO THE BIGGEST STATE AND THERE'S MORE PEOPLE THAT GO TO THE LONG BEACH AND LA VA THAN PROBABLY ANYWHERE ELSE BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE, YOU KNOW, HUGE POPULATION CENTERS.
OH, ALSO MENTION THEIR SATELLITES.
SO VETERANS DON'T HAVE TO TRAVEL FOR A LOT OF THEIR NEEDS.
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OKAY.SO, SO DO A RECEIVE AND FILE ON THIS.
WE NEED A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND.
WHO, WHAT WAS THE FIRST AND SECOND? NICK? MR. FIRST
WHEN IS OUR SECOND? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE? AYE.
WHAT HAVE WE GOT LEFT? UM, SUMMER MEETING SCHEDULE RECOMMENDATION, DISCUSS SUMMER MEETING SCHEDULE.
THE FIRST AND FOREMOST IS ON JUNE 11TH.
MY SON IS GRADUATING FROM HIGH SCHOOL, SO EITHER YOU CAN MEET WITHOUT ME KICKING HIM OUT.
YEAH, IF YOU GUYS WANNA PITCH IN THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, I'LL TAKE CHECKS.
THAT'S NOTHING TO TO, TO BRUSH OFF.
YOU SAID THAT'S, IT'S A HUGE ACCOMPLISHMENT.
IT'S ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE MILESTONES, RIGHT? EXACTLY.
AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LOSING JULY 'CAUSE HE'S GOT HEART SURGERY AND JUNE.
WELL THAT'S, I HAVE 'EM ALL JUNE 11TH, JULY 9TH AND AUGUST 13TH.
SO WE CAN MAKE THE CHOICE RIGHT NOW.
THOSE ARE THE THREE SECOND WEDNESDAYS OF THOSE THREE MONTHS WE CAN DECIDE NOT TO MEET, TO MEET WHATEVER.
BUT THE, THE FIRST ONE BEING JUNE 11TH, SINCE I CANNOT BE THERE.
DO WE WANT TO PICK ANOTHER WEDNESDAY IN JUNE? DOES IT HAVE TO BE A WEDNESDAY? NO, IT CAN BE.
AND WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT TOO.
IS WEDNESDAY THE BEST NIGHT TO MEET? LET'S, LET'S A SECOND ABOUT IT.
WHAT DO WE HAVE THAT WE NEED TO DO IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS? WELL, THE BANNER PROGRAM, WELL, BANNERS WILL BE, OH, NEXT MONTH WE NEED TO, YEAH, WE'RE GONNA NEED SOMETHING FOR NEXT MONTH TO KIND OF CONCLUDE ANY LAST MINUTE BUSINESS TO DEAL WITH BANNERS, BECAUSE THERE'S STILL A LITTLE BIT OF TYING UP TO DO WITH THAT.
MAY, MAY I SUGGEST CAN THAT BE A, UM, UM, LIKE A, SINCE GINA IS NOT AVAILABLE, CAN WE KIND OF MAKE THAT LIKE A, SAY A COMMITTEE MEETING THAT WE CAN LIKE, KIND OF MEET AND JUST KIND OF DIS NO ACTION OR ANYTHING, BUT WHATEVER WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE, WE COULD DISCUSS THAT AMONGST OURSELVES AND THEN KEEP ROLLING WHEN GINA GETS BACK WITH IT.
THAT'S THE WEDNESDAY BEFORE EITHER WEDNESDAY BEFORE, OR JUST THE TUESDAY BEFORE THE, THE, THE 10TH INSTEAD OF 11TH.
THAT PROBABLY WON'T WORK FOR ME 'CAUSE I'LL HAVE UM OKAY, WELL RELATIVES AND ALL KIND OF STUFF.
I DON'T, I DON'T, IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME.
HOW ABOUT AFTER LIKE JUNE 18TH? YEAH.
I CANNOT MEET THE 18TH, BUT I CAN YOU JUNE 4TH.
DOES THE 25TH WORK, WHEN'S YOUR SURGERY? 24TH.
WELL, YOU GET THE MOST RESTRICTIVE.
YOU HAVE A HEART SURGERY? YEAH.
YOU'VE GOT THE MOST RESTRICTIVE SCHEDULE.
SO WHAT DO YOU GOT? WHAT WOULD BE WORKING FOR YOU? YOU SAID THE 18TH DOESN'T WORK FOR WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE BEST? WHAT YOUR MONTH, GIVE US SOME OPTIONS BECAUSE YOURS PROBABLY THE MOST RESTRICTIVE SCHEDULE.
JUNE 4TH WAS GOOD AND YOU HAD A PROBLEM WITH THAT, RIGHT? JUNE 3RD.
HOW DOES JUNE 4TH GOOD WITH ME? JUNE 4TH.
WE'RE CALLING IT JUNE 4TH AND THEN THE JULY 9TH MEETING, WE'RE GONNA CANCEL.
I THINK, ARE WE GOOD WITH THAT? JULY IS A NO.
YEAH, WE'RE GONNA CANCEL JULY.
'CAUSE WE'RE NOT SURE ANYTIME YOU GO INTO THE KNIFE, YOU NEVER KNOW.
SO HIS RECOVERY MAY BE A LITTLE LONGER.
I HOPE WE ALL HOPE NOT
AND THEN I AM, UH, WHAT ABOUT AUGUST 13TH? I MEAN, EVERY, EVERY SUMMER WE HAVE TO DROP A MEETING.
WE'VE USUALLY HAD TO DROP THE AUGUST MEETING.
SO YOU'D RATHER HAVE JULY THAN AUGUST.
RIGHT? IS ANYONE GOING ON VACATION IN AUGUST OR GOING OUT COUNTRY IN AUGUST? OR, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T HAVE ALL FIVE OF US HERE, WE CAN'T DO IT.
I THOUGHT WE'LL HAVE A SIX PERSON, WE WILL HAVE A SIXTH PERSON.
ON JUNE 10TH, WILL THEY OFFICIALLY BE PROCESSED FULLY? YOU'RE SUCH A DOWNER.
SHOWING UP DON'T MEAN NOTHING.
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MONTHS.I CAN'T, I MEAN, FULLY COOKED.
I DON'T BELIEVE UNTIL THEY SURVIVED THE PROCESS.
IF YOU CAN MAKE IT THROUGH, YOU KNOW, I ALMOST DON'T BLAME PEOPLE.
WHY? WELL, THAT'S WHAT THEY, THEY, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALLY UNDERSTAND.
WE GOTTA WORK ON THAT ONE, JEFF.
I I I'VE BEEN, HEY, I CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE, IN UM, IN LOS ANGELES WE HAD A SEPARATE GROUP OF THE, UM, LEADERSHIP OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCILS.
WE HAD OUR OWN COUNCIL OF ALL THE PRESIDENTS OR LEADERSHIP THAT MET SEPARATELY.
AND IT DIDN'T HAVE TO GROUND ACT BECAUSE WE WERE SEPARATE GROUPS.
WE, WE WERE MEMBERS OF SEPARATE ORGANIZATIONS SO WE COULD DO IT.
BUT WE DISCUSSED HOW WE WORKED TOGETHER AND WE DISCUSSED MORE GLOBAL IS AS A MORE GLOBAL ISSUE LEVEL.
WHY DON'T WE HAVE THAT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS? IT'S JUST, IT STOPPED ABOUT A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN THE GUY WAS RUNNING IT.
BUT WE COULD DO IT AS A MISSION.
WHY WE COULD DO IT BY COMMISSIONS.
BUT, BUT IT'S, I THINK IT, IT, IT, IT, IT'S, IT HAS TO BE WHAT I EXPRESSED.
IT HAS TO BE A CHANGE IN THE CULTURE.
IT HAS TO BE A CHANGE IN THE MINDSET.
IF THE MINDSET IS, OH, I'M JUST ON THE COMMISSION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, OH, YOU GET A PATCH, IT'S LIKE A COOL THING.
THEN WE'RE ALWAYS GONNA RUN INTO THIS PROBLEM.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE.
WE'RE ONE OF THE FEW ACTIVE COMMISSIONS.
THIS IS MY, FROM MY DISCUSSION WITH UM MM-HMM
CHRISTIE, WE'RE ONE OF THE, WE ARE ONE OF FEW WHO ACTUALLY DOES SOMETHING.
THE REST JUST KIND OF SHOW UP AND LIKE, BRING SNACKS.
THEY DID THE REPORT AND THEIR, THEIR YEARLY REPORT AND THAT'S ABOUT IT.
AND THEY DON'T REALLY ATTEMPT TO DO ANYMORE.
IT'S LIKE, FOR US, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING THINGS AS, AS ACTIONS.
WE, WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON DOING WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING FIRST, WHICH IS ADVISING, WHICH WE HAVEN'T DONE IN THE TWO YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE.
SO THAT'S MY, I THINK OUR, OUR MOTION IS OUR FIRST CHANCE WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA ADVISE THEM TO DO SOMETHING
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
IT'S REALLY AN INTERESTING THING OF WHY PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO BE ON COMMISSIONS.
AND I ALMOST THINK PART OF IT IS ALL THIS TRAINING AND WHEN THEY PUT HOUR AFTER HOUR AFTER HOUR, I KNOW OF TRAINING, SAY, HEY, I DON'T NEED IT.
CAN I JUST VOLUNTEER AND DO STUFF? AND I'VE WENT THERE A LOT OF PLACES THAT I DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS B******T.
I, MY, I'VE BEEN ON TWO COMM I FOR, FOR BOB FOSTER, I HEADED UP A, A TASK FORCE FOR HIM TO LOOK AT EVERY COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ACROSS THE BOARD.
AND THERE WAS NEVER ANYTHING LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, TO, FOR PEOPLE TO GET ON COMMISSIONS.
WHICH FUNCTIONARY DID THIS
I MEAN, POST FOSTER IN OUR CURRENT.
WHO CREATED THIS CURRENT MONSTER? SOMEONE JUST, YEAH.
WHICH LAWYER CREATED THIS CURRENT MONSTER? WELL, THEY, THEY GET BORED.
THEY GET BORED AND THEY, THEY CHANGED WHOLE SYSTEMS. OKAY.
WE, OR WILL WE END UP CANCELING THAT ONE TOO? WELL, LET'S, LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
WELL, LET'S MAKE THAT DECISION.
WE CAN MAKE THE DECISION IN JUNE.
AND I THINK THAT WILL BE BASED ON HOW FAR YOU GET WITH YEAH.
SO ONE, IT'S THE REPORT FOR THE HOUSING AND NUMBER TWO, THE RESOLUTION.
THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS WE WANT TO ACCOMP.
'CAUSE WE'LL BE SORT OF LIKE IN A ALMOST POSTO WITH THE BANNERS AT THAT POINT.
THEY SHOULD BE MAKING 'EM AND HANGING 'EM AT THAT POINT.
BUT I WILL SEE YOU ALL AT THIS EVENT ON JUNE 3RD.
AND I ALSO NEED, UM, Y'ALL TO MAN THE TABLE.
SO WE'LL BE TAKING, YOU KNOW, NEWSLETTER SIGNUPS, UH, JUST MEET AND GREET, UH, WE'LL HAVE WATERS AT OUR TABLE.
IT'S NOTHING, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S MOSTLY A, A COMMEMORATIVE SERVICE AND THE MAYOR'S NOT GONNA BE THERE.
WE HAVE ASKED THE VICE MAYOR TO BE THERE TO SAY A FEW WORDS JUST AT THE TOP OF THE, THE EVENT.
AND ALSO TO LAY A WREATH BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THEIR CEREMONY.
SO, UM, AND YOU SAID IT'S LIKE FROM 10 TO ONE, RIGHT? MM-HMM
WE, WE, WE NEED A MOTION OR WHATEVER TO FINISH UP THIS THING.
IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO MOTION THERE'S NO MEETING ON JUNE 11TH.
WE'LL HAVE A, A MEETING ON JUNE.
AND THEN AUGUST, WHAT IS PENDING? WE'RE, WE'RE LEGAL? WE'RE WE'RE AUGUST IS INTACT FOR NOW, SO WE NEED A SECOND.
WHAT DATE ARE WE? 'CAUSE I WANNA PENCIL IT IN ON MY CALENDAR JUST TO IT'S ALWAYS THE SECOND WEDNESDAY.
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AUGUST 13TH.I THING WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE CHANGING JUNE, DROPPING JULY.
AND WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT AUGUST IN JUNE.
UM, ALL RIGHT, WELL, WHO'S THE SECOND? WE HAVE MOTION? WE HAVE A SECOND.
AND IT'S ALL JUST FILING STUFF.
AND THIS ONE ACTUALLY HAS AN ACTION BECAUSE WE'RE CHANGING SOMETHING.
I AB STATE ONE, JUST CHANGE THINGS.
THIS YOU BE THE, I'M GONNA SAY NO, WE'RE GONNA LET YOU BE THE FIRST.
UM, THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT 'CAUSE THERE'S NO PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS.
I ALREADY SAID PRIDE IS THIS WEEKEND.
WE'LL SEE HOW IT LOOKS WITH ALL THE SPONSORS GONE.
AND THEN FUTURE, UM, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. YOU HAD A COUPLE THINGS.
SO YES, I WOULD LIKE TO TINA, UM, UM, BECAUSE IT IS, UM, WE'RE IN MAY.
CAN WE HAVE A, A, CAN WE DISCUSS OUR REPORT AGAIN? OH, THE ANNUAL REPORT.
THE ANNUAL REPORT THAT WILL GO TO CITY COUNCIL.
WHEN IS THAT DUE? IT'S TECHNICALLY, IT'S AROUND MAY, BUT IT'S TECHNICALLY DUE JULY 1ST.
THEY KIND OF HAVE A GRACE THAT IF IT COMES IN IN AUGUST.
BUT THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD ONE.
WE DO PRODUCE AN ANNUAL REPORT, UM, ON THE ACTIVITIES OF THE COMMISSION SLASH OFFICE OF VETERAN SUPPORT.
AND IT IS, UM, A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO TOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON.
UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO PUT ON A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM.
UH, SOME, THERE'S A GROUP OF VETERANS FROM CAMBODIA.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE RELATIONSHIP OF CAMBODIA AND VIETNAM IN THAT ERA, BUT THEY WOULD LIKE TO TELL THEIR STORY OR OR PARTNER WITH US TO DO SOMETHING.
WELL WE ARE THE LARGEST CAMBODIAN POPULATION OUTSIDE, OUTSIDE OF CAMBODIA.
YEAH, NO, I'M JUST THINKING THAT YOU SAID THAT COULD BE INTEREST IS HERE IN LONG BEACH.
YEAH, THEY HAVE AN, THEY HAVE A, I'VE SEEN THEM MARCH IN A PARADE IN THE PAST.
YEAH, THEY MARCH IN THE CAMBODIA DAY.
THE CAMBODIA, THEY, THEY WERE EVEN IN SOME OF OUR VETERAN'S DAY EVENTS, SURELY SOMETHING MY DISTRICT SHOULD KNOW ABOUT.
THIS YEAR IS THEIR 50TH ANNIVERSARY.
UH, JEFF REPORTED THAT HE TALKED TO ROS OFFICE.
UM, ANY IDEAS? YOU HELP TO HELP TO HELP CELEBRATE AND TELL THEIR STORY? SO I I DON'T KNOW MUCH, BUT THAT'S DEFINITELY A, A, A FUTURE, UM, CAMBODIANS VETERANS.
I JUST WONDER WHICH SIDE THESE VETERANS WERE ON.
I DON'T, I I BELIEVE THAT THEY FOUGHT FOR US AND WITH US AGAINST VIETNAM OR SOMETHING.
DEPENDS IF THE BOMBERS ARE FALLING.
AND ALSO JUST ONE OTHER GINA PLEASE.
THE, UM, THE ATTORNEY, AND THIS IS JUST TO THIS TO, UM, DISCUSS, AND THIS IS MAYBE JUST MAYBE A CONVERSATION, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY, BUT TO DISCUSS WHAT IS REQUIRED TO CHANGE THE CHARTER.
SO WE WOULD HAVE, GOING BACK TO OUR NINE COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE UNDER TERM UHHUH AND HAVE TWO THAT ARE APPOINTED.
SO THOSE WOULD BE APPOINTED KIND OF LIKE AT A, AS LIKE AN AT LARGE, YOU KNOW, AT WILL BY THE MAYOR OR WHOEVER.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, LONG TERM THAT, UH, CHANGE WOULD RESOLVE, UM, A LOT OF THE PORN PROBLEMS. SO, SO WHAT WOULD THE, THE COMMISSION BE MADE UP OF TEAM THEN? HUH? I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING NINE ONE FOR EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT PLUS TWO AT LARGE.
THERE WOULD BE TWO THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE AT LARGE.
SAY IN ADDITION TO WHAT? IN ADDITION TO THE NINE THAT WE HAVE.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE LIKE 11 COMMISSIONERS.
SO THEN YOUR QUO WOULD BE SIX.
WHICH, WHICH ONE WITH NINE AND LARGE.
LET'S JUST LOOKING, HE'S LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT OPTION.
AND ALL IT IS IS JUST TO SEE WHAT, WHAT OPTION,
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WHAT ARE SOME OF THE OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING PROBLEM SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THE COMMISSION.WELL, NO, THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS CAME FROM, I THINK IS WHEN THE, UM, WHEN HERE EIGHT CAME AROUND AND EVERYBODY LEFT
THAT'S THE, THAT WAS WHERE IT, IT REALLY HIT THE FAN.
DON'T THINK THAT THE DISCUSSION WITH HAVING A SUCCESSION AND IDENTIFYING OTHER COMMISSIONERS, THAT HAS BEEN A DISCUSSION.
I WAS, I WAS PUSHING IT FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS AND I WAS, IT WAS GOING NOWHERE.
WHAT ABOUT THE PROSPECT FOR A NINE? WHAT WAS THE, DID YOU HEAR ANYTHING BACK ON THAT OR YOU, YOU VOTED TO HAVE NINE, RIGHT? THE REPRESENTATIVE? SORRY.
WELL, JOHNNY PUT OUT, JOHNNY PUT OUT A NOTICE TODAY OR YESTERDAY.
IT WAS AN, IT WAS AN EMAIL THAT WENT YES.
SHE WENT OUT TRYING TO FIND SOMEBODY.
'CAUSE A COUPLE PEOPLE I PUT UP HAVE BOTH BEEN PERSONA GRATA.
SO JEFF, JEFF ROW AND UM, UM, WHAT'S HIS NAME? DAN BERG ARE BOTH PERSONA AND GRATA EITHER WITH THE COUNCIL DISTRICT OR WITH THE MAYOR
SO THEY AIN'T GOING NOWHERE? NOPE.
AND THAT'S THE ONE OF THE PROBLEMS TOO, IS IF YOU, IF YOU ARE ON THAT LIST OF THE, YOU'VE RAISED YOUR HAND A LITTLE TOO OFTEN OR SCREAMED A LITTLE TOO LOUD, YOUR NAME'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
I DON'T CARE IF YOU PUT YOUR NAME IN THE APPLICATION OR NOT, YOU'RE JUST GONNA GET LOST.
WELL, YOU, YOU ALSO WANT IT TO BE WHERE YOU, WHERE WE CAN GET STUFF DONE.
WELL, NO, I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER THING, LIKE WITH JEFF, I THINK JEFF WOULD'VE BEEN AN AWESOME ONE.
BUT YOU WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER, YOU SAID HE APPLIED RIGHT? JEFF DID.
CAN WE MOVE ON? CAN WE SHUT UP THE BUILDING? GOTTA GET OUTTA HERE'S GONNA BE GOOD IN JUNE, I THINK.
UH, MOTION TO WE'RE WE NEED A MOTION? WE'RE, WE'RE DONE.
WHAT IS THE ADJOURNMENT TIME? OBJECTION.