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ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

MEMBER DUGGAN HERE.

VICE CHAIR.

CLERK HERE.

CHAIR YOU RESIDENT.

WE HAVE A QUORUM.

OKAY.

UH, AGENDA NUMBER ONE, PLEASE.

I HAVE ONE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS COMMITTEE MEETING OF MAY 20TH, 2025.

CAN I PLEASE SECOND OKAY, YOU TO, UH, OCCUR.

UH, ANY COMMENTS? UH, MEMBER DOESN AYE.

VICE CHAIR? KURT AYE.

CHAIR, ARANGO.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

ITEM NUMBER TWO, PLEASE.

ITEM TWO, RECOMMENDATIONS TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE PRESENTATION ON THE CALIFORNIA FISCAL YEAR 26 STATE BUDGET.

I GET A MOTION APPROVAL.

SECOND.

UH, WELL, THE MIDDAY AFTERNOON, UH, TO YOU ALL.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE DURING YOUR LUNCHTIME.

UM, DURING OUR SUMMER MEETING OF THE IGA COMMITTEE, WE USUALLY, UM, ALWAYS WE ATE BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE STATE'S FISCAL YEAR BUDGET.

UM, WE BELIEVE THIS AS THE TFS, SO THAT'S ACTUALLY BEEN OUT, UM, FOR YOU ALL TO SEE, UM, UH, OBVIOUS FIT.

BUT WE'LL WALK THROUGH IT A LITTLE BIT TODAY, SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

UM, AND THEN GET TO OUR OTHER ITEMS. NEXT SLIDE.

UM, I THINK THE OVERALL THEME OF THIS YEAR'S STATE BUDGET IS NOT AS BAD AS WE THOUGHT IT COULD BE, UM, BUT NOT A MINGLING START.

UM, IT IS A BALANCED FISCAL PLAN THAT MAINTAINS RESERVES.

UM, AND THAT WAS DONE BY, THERE WAS 11.8 BILLION, UH, GENERAL FUND DEFICIT, AND WE WERE ABLE TO COVER THAT WITH USING A NUMBER OF, UM, NUMBER OF TACTICS INCLUDING INCREASING REVENUE, UH, BORROWING AND SHIFTING FUNDS FROM, UM, FROM OTHER ACCOUNTS, UM, AND REDUCING EXPENDITURES.

UH, WE DID ADVOCATE FOR A NUMBER OF, UM, ITEMS WITHIN THE BUDGET, SPECIFICALLY, UM, FOR OUR PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

AND THAT INCLUDE PROGRAMS LIKE THE FUTURE OF PUBLIC HEALTH BY CALIFORNIA BACK CAL CONNECT.

UH, AND THOSE WERE ALLED ON THE FINAL BUDGET.

SO A COUPLE OF WINS THERE, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR PUBLIC HEALTH TEAM, WHICH, AS YOU ALL KNOW, HAS BEEN FACING QUITE A FEW HITS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

NEXT SLIDE.

I'M GONNA GO OVER JUST KIND OF, UH, A BIT OF A HODGEPODGE OF SPECIFIC AREAS THAT WOULD BE USEFUL TO, UM, TO THE CITY.

BUT AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THEM AT THE END.

AND IF WE GO INTO MORE DEPTH IN THE TFF, UH, BUT A COUPLE THINGS WE WANTED TO KNOW, UM, ALMOST $31 MILLION FOR GABRIEL AND LOWER LA RIVERS AND MOUNTAINS CONSERVANCY THROUGH THE CLIMATE BOND.

UM, THAT IS A FUND THAT WE UTILIZE QUITE A BIT AS A CITY.

SO HAPPY TO SEE A BIG INFLUX OF CASH TO THAT, UH, UH, TO BOTH OF THE, THE CONSERVANCIES.

UM, WE'LL DEFINITELY BE LOOKING TO HOW WE CAN APPLY A LOT OF THAT, UM, FRANCE, UM, AS THEY ARE, UM, INTRODUCED, UH, FOUR POINT, OR EXCUSE ME, ALMOST $43 MILLION TO DEVELOP OFFSHORE WIND.

UM, THAT WOULD BE A HUGE WIN, OF COURSE TO OUR, UM, CURRENT DEPARTMENT, UM, AS I TO DEVELOP THAT THROUGH THE CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION.

UM, AND AS YOU HEARD DURING THE, UH, BUDGET PRESENTATION FROM HEALTH, WE'LL ALSO TOUCH ON SOME OF THE IMPACTS FROM THE STATE FEDERAL OFFICE.

CAN'T REALLY SEE FEDERAL BUDGET.

FORTUNATELY, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO ESCAPE A LOT OF THOSE.

SO HUGE CHANGES COMING TO STATE MEDICAL PROGRAMS, SPECIFICALLY GROUND ENROLLMENT AND ELIGIBILITY.

I TAKE QUESTIONS AS I GO TOO.

YOU CAN, OR IF YOU WANNA COMPLETE YOUR PRESENT.

WE, UH, SMALL COMMITTEE, WE'RE GONNA ASK .

YEAH, GREAT.

WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? UH, ON THE, UH, OFFSHORE WHEN MM-HMM .

IS WE STILL HERE, HOPEFULLY, OR, YEAH, THAT FUNDING COULD GO SPECIFICALLY TO THAT, THAT HUGE THING THAT THEY, THAT THEY ADVOCATED FOR AND WERE UNIQUELY POSITIONED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF, OF THAT FUNDING.

SO, UM, UM, I'LL HAVE TO, WHEN IT WILL BE RELEASED, I THINK MOST OF THE CLIMATE BOND FUNDING SHOULD BE RELEASED, SHARED SOON.

UM, AND THEN, UM, THEY CAN BE POISED TO APPLY FOR IT.

SO I THINK IT'S US AND THEN ONE OTHER DEVELOPMENT UP IN MORNING CALIFORNIA THAT ARE REALLY WELL SUITED FOR, FOR THAT PROJECT.

SO THAT FUNDING SHOULD BE, SHOULD BE COMING TO US.

NO, WE'RE STILL GONNA BE TRANSPORTING, UH, CHAIRMAN'S NORTH FROM HERE.

I, WELL, I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT THE COURT'S PLAN IS FOR THAT.

HAPPY TO GET MORE INFORMATION AND, AND LOOK INTO IT.

UH, BUT FROM MY LAST UNDERSTANDING OF THEIR PRESENTATION, THAT THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE WOULD BE KIND OF A, A SETUP AND, UM,

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BUILDING AREA HERE THAT WOULD GO OUT, BUT ALSO, UM, THE MATERIALS GOING TO THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.

BUT I WILL VERIFY THAT, UM, WITH COURT STAFF, THIS MATERIAL, MY THAT.

YEAH, I THINK THAT THAT'S MY LAST UNDERSTANDING OF THE TWO.

UM, SO THE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO MEDI-CAL, UM, MOST THEM SPECIFICALLY ARE FOR UNDOCUMENTED OR UNBE, UH, UNDOCUMENTED INDIVIDUALS OR THOSE WITH UNSATISFACTORY IMMIGRATION STATUS.

UM, THAT INCLUDES A FREEZE ON, ON NEW ENROLLMENT, UM, $30 MONTHLY PREMIUMS AND THE ELIMINATION OF FULL SCOPE, FULL SCOPE DENTAL, UH, AGAIN, A COUPLE OF BIG TOP LINE, UH, FUNDING.

ONES 500 MILLION FOR HALF ROUND SEVEN.

WE WERE VERY INVOLVED IN THAT NEGOTIATION.

IT WENT DOWN TO NOTHING.

UM, 500 MILLION IS, UM, THAT THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT WE HAD BEEN HOPING FOR, BUT GLAD TO HAVE IT INCLUDED AT ALL VERSUS BEING ELIMINATED.

UM, A HUNDRED MILLION FOR ENCAMPMENT RESOLUTION FUNDS, SAME THING.

UM, THERE WAS ONE POLICY ITEM THAT CAME OUT OF THE BUDGET THAT WAS REALLY INTERESTING, WHICH WAS THE CREATION OF THE CALIFORNIA HOUSING AND HOMELESS AGENCY, UM, AND THE, AND THE CREATION OF THAT HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE IN ADDITION TO THE BUSINESS AND CONSUMER SERVICES AGENCY.

SO ACTUALLY SOME REALIGNMENT AND SOME NEW DEPARTMENTS TO KIND OF REALIGN ON SERVICES SPECIFICALLY IN HOMELESSNESS, BUT TO, TO HOUSING.

SO IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THAT NEW AGENCY IS DEVELOPED AND HOW, UM, THEY IMPLEMENT SOME OF THEIR FUNDING AND, UH, THE CHARGE THAT THEY'VE BEEN LED TO.

UM, 50 MILLION TO EXPAND INTO NEW SOUTH, UH, ACCELERATE COUNTY BEHAVIORAL HEALTH.

UM, SO THAT WE HAVE WORK HAND IN HAND, PUBLIC COUNTY ON, SO THAT'LL BE GREAT.

AND THEN A NUMBER OF FUNDING, UM, LINE ITEMS TO IMPLEMENT PROPER SIX.

UH, SO 20 MILLION TO THE COURTS.

UM, SPECIFICALLY FUNDING FOR COLLABORATIVE COURTS, 15 MILLION TO PUBLIC DEFENDERS, 15 MILLION FOR PRETRIAL, AND 32 MILLION TO POSTLE COMMUNITY ENTRY PROGRAMS. SO A NUMBER OF ITEMS TO FUND, UM, THE, UM, ABOUT INITIATIVE THAT'S PASSED LAST YEAR.

CAN YOU SEND AN UPDATE ON THAT, SARAH? JUST ARMS ITEMS, SPECIFICALLY THE FUNDING ITEMS, CORRECT.

SURE.

DO YOU KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY FUNDING ALLOCATED TOWARDS, UM, WHERE FOLKS WOULD BE HOUSED? SO WE KNOW THAT OUR LA COUNTY IS SUPER FULL.

SO FOR THE LA LA COUNTY JAIL? YEAH.

FOR, FOR ANY OF THE COUNTY JAILS IN TERMS OF AS PEOPLE ARE ARRESTED AND NEED TO BE DETAINED AS THEY'RE HELD OVER AND CHARGED, AND IF THEY'RE CONVICTED.

UM, WE KNOW THAT OUR SYSTEM IS PRETTY FULL AT THE MOMENT.

DO NO FUNDING WAS INCLUDED FOR WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF WHERE HOUSED THAT'S BEEN SPECIFIED IN THE ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE.

BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO CALL AND SEE IF THAT HAD BEEN, IF THAT'S BEEN NEGOTIATED OR IF THAT WOULD BE PART OF IT.

UM, SO LET ME TAKE A LOOK INTO THAT, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE NOTES HERE AND I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO LIKE HOUSING OR, UH, OR HOLDING AND, AND HOW THAT WOULD BE FUNDED.

RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

BECAUSE THERE WAS A NUMBER OF ITEMS, UM, FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE OUTSIDE OF PROP 36, SO I CAN TAKE A LOOK AND SEE IF THERE WAS SOME, UM, ADDITIONAL ITEMS OUTSIDE OF SPECIFIC PROP 36.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

UH, AND THEN ONE OF THE INTERESTING, UH, TOOLS THAT WAS PART OF THE BUDGET THIS YEAR, UM, WAS, AGAIN, MORE OF A POLICY TOOL.

UM, SO IN ORDER FOR THE BUDGET TO BE PASSED THIS YEAR, THERE WAS, UM, UH, SOME LEGISLATION INCLUDED IN THERE THAT WAS ESTABLISHED WITH SEQUENCE STREAMLINING TOOLS.

UM, THIS WAS SPECIFICALLY MEANT TO DELIVER INFILL HOUSING AND INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.

UM, A NUMBER OF THEM, YOU CAN SEE UP DOWN THE SLIDE.

THERE'S ALSO, UH, A SIX YEAR SUSPENSION ON RESIDENTIAL BUILDING STANDARDS, UH, THROUGH 2031.

THE IDEA AROUND THIS IS TO HELP STABILIZE COSTS TO KIND OF GET THINGS MOVING, TO PROVIDE REGULATORY CERTAINTY.

UM, BUT AFTER WORKING WITH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CHRISTOPHER GOON AND OUR TEAM HERE, UM, HE ACTUALLY OPPOSED THOSE, UM, BECAUSE IT ENDED UP BEING A RESTRICTION ON LOCAL EFFORTS TO DO OUR OWN SAFETY AND CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, SO THAT DID PASS.

IT WAS, UM, A BIG PUSH FROM, UH, THE STATE IN ORDER TO PASS THE, UH, TO PASS THE BUDGET.

UM, BUT THE CITY DID TAKE AN OPPOSITION POSITION ON IT DUE TO ITS, UM, UH, RESTRICTION ON LOCAL CONTROL.

AGAIN.

NEXT SLIDE.

AND THEN THE LAST FEW THINGS I'LL TOUCH ON, UH, BRIEFLY.

TRANSPORTATION IS USUALLY A BIG PART OF THE BUDGET.

UM, ALTHOUGH NOT, UH, A TON IN THIS YEAR, NOT A HUGE, HUGE, UM, ITEM AS IT HAS BEEN IN

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PREVIOUS YEARS.

UM, A LOT, UH, UM, 5 BILLION IN FUNDING FOR STATE HIGHWAYS AND CLEAN TRANSPORTATION.

UM, ALSO FOR, UH, PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE OPTIONS.

UM, A LOT OF MONEY, UH, PUT INTO ROAD REPAIR AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY KIND THE THEME THAT GOES INTO MONEY THAT WAS ASIDE FOR THE 2028 GAMES.

UM, SO ABOUT $18 MILLION IN ONE TIME FUNDING TO STATE HIGHWAYS, UM, TO DO PLANNING AND PREP FOR THE, UH, FOR THE GAMES.

AND THAT WILL INCLUDE, UH, WHAT'S CALLED THE GAMES ROUTE NETWORK, WHICH IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE THE SYSTEM OF LANES, UH, AND WAYS TO TRAVEL WHERE, UM, THE GAMES WILL GET, UM, ATHLETES AND OTHER, UM, NEEDED INDIVIDUALS TO THEIR LOCATIONS IN A QUICK AND EFFECTIVE MANNER.

SO, UM, UH, A BIG IN LOTS OF CASH ON THE STATE SIDE FOR CALTRANS TO HELP SUPPORT THAT EFFORT.

THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

IF IT WAS CITY OR CALTRAN CAL.

YEAH.

YEAH.

UM, SO THAT IT, IT WILL ACTUALLY BE LIKE DEDICATED LANE ALONG LIKE STATE HIGHWAYS IN ORDER TO GET LIKE THE ATHLETES FROM UCLA TO, TO THEIR, UM, YOU KNOW, .

UM, AND THEN THE LAST ONE WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, ESPECIALLY FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL, THE SERVICE COURT HAS BEEN, UM, UNDER ATTACK.

UM, BUT THE CALIFORNIA SERVICE COURT DID HAVE, UM, CONTINUATION OF BUDGET IN SOME CASES, UH, SMALL INCREASES.

SO, UM, 5 MILLION IN ADDITION AS WELL AS 83 ONGOING FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO COLLEGE SERVICE CORE.

UM, AND ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT OF AN EXPANSION ON THAT PROGRAM.

UM, A SHIFT IN FUNDING TO MAINTAIN THE CLIMATE ACTION CORPS.

UH, IT WAS PREVIOUSLY FUNDED BY GHD FUND, UM, BUT NOW THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND, AND THEN MAINTAINING THE YOUTH SERVICE COURSE.

SO, UM, ABLE TO, TO KEEP THOSE, EVEN THOUGH AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, UM, THEY'VE BEEN, UH, CUT.

YES.

RIGHT.

OR TRANSPORTATION.

MM-HMM .

IS THAT GONNA BE CONTINUING? BECAUSE USUALLY IT WAS TO THAT POINT IN A T THIS CURRENT ADMINISTRATION HAS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT VIEWPOINT ON ZERO EMISSION IN NO EMISSION VEHICLES, GOHAN, UH, ANY DANGER OF THAT, UH, ALLOCATION BEING REDUCED OR LOST? UH, NO, NOT THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH.

IT HASN'T, SO IN MUCH MORE, AND THERE'S, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, THERE'S BEEN A BIGGER FOCUS ON ZERO AND LOW EMISSION TRANSPORTATION AND NEW INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO THIS KIND OF KEEPS THINGS AT THE STATUS QUO, WHEREAS IN THE PAST, THERE HASN'T KIND OF AN EXPANSION AND A BIGGER INVESTMENT IN IT.

UM, BUT AS, AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, UM, UH, THIS KIND OF JUST KIND OF CONTINUES ON WHAT, UH, WHAT LAST YEAR AND PREVIOUS YEARS HAS DONE.

OKAY.

UM, NEXT SLIDE.

AND THEN MY LAST, UH, JUST A COUPLE OF NOTES ON THE BUDGET.

UM, ONE OF 'EM TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT THE BUDGET WAS APPROVED IN JUNE.

UM, SO IT DOES NOT REFLECT ANY IMPACT OR ANYTHING THAT CAME OUTTA, UH, RECONCILIATION OF THE ONE THAT WE FULFILLED.

WE GOT THE SIGNED IN JULY.

UM, WE ARE VERY MUCH MONITORING THE IMPACTS, UM, FROM THE RECONCILIATION BILL, AS WELL AS THE, UH, PRESIDENT'S PROPOSED, UH, FISCAL YEAR 26TH BUDGET, AS WELL AS ANY OTHER KIND OF SPENDING BILLS OR, UH, UH, CUTTING BILLS THAT MAY HAPPEN AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

UM, AND SO TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL, ALTHOUGH YOU'RE PROBABLY VERY AWARE, BUT IF YOU WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOUR RESIDENTS, UH, THE CITY MANAGER PAGE HAS A FEDERAL FUNDING UPDATES WEBSITE THAT WE UPDATE FREQUENTLY WITH PROJECTS AND DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE BEING IMPACTED BY FEDERAL CUTS, WHAT RESIDENTS CAN DO, HOW RESIDENTS CAN BE ENGAGED, WHAT THE CITY'S DOING, UM, HOW THE CITY IS, IS WORKING THROUGH THOSE IMPACTS, INFORMATION ON THE BUDGET.

SO, UM, SHARE THAT IN THE, IN THE POWERPOINT.

I'M HAPPY TO POINT IT ALL OUT TO YOUR STAFF, UM, STAFF.

IT'S A GREAT RESOURCE.

UM, UH, AND ALSO, UM, WANTED, AGAIN, MENTION THAT MORE INFORMATION IS IN THE TFF THAT WAS SENT OUT IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH ON THE BUDGET, BUT THIS IS A, A QUICK HIGHLIGHT, UM, OF SOME OF THE, THE KEEPING SCORE OF THE CITY.

UM, AND THAT I'LL, UM, SEND IT BACK OVER TO YOU CHAIR, UM, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS? NO, THANK YOU.

I I APPRECIATE MEMBER.

HI, VICE CHAIR, KIRK.

AYE HERE, YOUR HONOR.

AYE.

MOTIONS CARRIED.

THANK YOU.

NEXT ITEM PLEASE.

NUMBER THREE, ITEM THREE, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A DEBRIEFING OF THE JUNE 4TH

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THROUGH 6 20 25 WASHINGTON DC FEDERAL ADVOCACY TRIP.

I GET A MOTION, PLEASE.

MOTION.

SHOULD SECOND.

THANK YOU.

A SECOND.

DISCUSSION.

DISCUSSION? NO, I HAVE A, A ORIENTATION, YEAH.

QUICK PRESENTATION.

PULLING UP HERE.

UM, SO BRIEFLY WANTED TO KIND OF SET THE STAGE, UM, SINCE WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION EARLIER IN THE YEAR.

SO JUST AS A REMINDER, UM, AFTER THAT, UM, OUR, UM, THE WAY THAT WE PREVIOUSLY HELD THESE IGA ADVOCACY TRIPS, UM, WAS NOT, UM, ALIGNED, UM, UH, WITH THE BROWN ACT, UM, AT A ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION.

YOU KNOW, WE RESTRUCTURED HOW WE DID THESE TWO, TWO TRIPS THAT ALSO INVOLVED HAVING, UM, THE FOLKS WHO DID ATTEND THE TRIPS DO A READOUT KIND OF SO THAT FOR THE PUBLIC, WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, A GREAT UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT HAPPENED.

AND SO YOU AS COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE ABLE TO SHARE AMONGST EACH OTHER ABOUT YOUR, YOUR .

SO, UM, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT, UM, THE SACRAMENTO ADVOCACY TRIP IS SCHEDULED, WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE TWO MEMBERS.

SO GLAD WE WERE ABLE TO GET TO DO THAT.

BUT DUE TO THE DIFFICULTIES OF SCHEDULING AROUND WASHINGTON DC AND THAT TRAVEL, UH, WE ONLY HAD ONE MEMBER ATTEND.

UH, SADLY I WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND BECAUSE I CHASED A VERY SPUNKY 3-YEAR-OLD, AND I WAS THE STREET AND INJURED MYSELF.

UM, BUT BIG THANKS TO CLAYTON, UM, WHO WAS ABLE TO ATTEND ON THE BEHALF OF THE OPTION.

UM, SO WE'LL GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, THAT TRIP, AND THEN I WILL ACTUALLY ASK, UH, IF SHE HAS ANYTHING THAT SHE'D LIKE TO ADD.

SO I'LL WALK THROUGH, UM, SOME OF OUR MEETINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

UM, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF VERY SUCCESSFUL MEETINGS, UM, WITH NOT ONLY CARD DELEGATION, BUT MEMBERS OUTSIDE OF IT.

SO, UM, WITH, UH, SENATOR ADAM SHIP, UM, REPRESENTING NORTH LONG BEACH, UH, CONGRESSWOMAN NANETTE BARON, UH, REPRESENTATIVE VINCE BONG, UH, REPRESENTING THE REST OF LONG BEACH, UH, UH, ROBERT GARCIA, UH, REPRESENTING, OR EXCUSE ME, REPRESENTATIVE JAY .

AND THEN WITH THE OFFICE OF, UH, SENATOR ALEX PADILLA.

UM, AS, AS YOU ALL KNOW, IT'S ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL TO MEET FACE TO FACE WITH OUR MEMBERS WITH THE DELEGATION TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S UH, HAPPENING HERE IN LONG BEACH.

UM, BUT IT'S ALWAYS VERY USEFUL AND HELPFUL TO MEET WITH, UM, SOME OF THE STAFF DOING A LOT OF THE WORK BEHIND THE POLICY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO, HAPPY TO HAVE A NUMBER OF MEETINGS, UM, WITH COMMITTEE STAFF, INCLUDING THE HOUSE SCIENCE AND SPACE PATHOLOGY COMMITTEE STAFF, WHICH I KNOW THAT WAS A GREAT DISCUSSION.

SPACE SPEECH, UH, USE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION STAFF.

SO, UM, A GREAT KIND OF MIX BETWEEN OUR REPRESENTATIVES AND THE STAFF WORKING ON OUR CRITICAL WORK.

NEXT SLIDE, AND SOME GREAT PICTURES OF SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS.

NEXT SLIDE.

SOME OF THE TOPICS OF DISCUSSION AT THE MEETINGS WERE, OF COURSE, OUR FEDERAL FUNDING UNCERTAINTY AND WHAT THE DELEGATION COULD AND COULD NOT ASSIST WITH, UH, SPECIFICALLY SECURING FUNDING FOR HOUSING SERVICES, UM, AND HOW DEPARTMENTS COULD FOLLOW UP ON ANY PROPOSED CUTS, UH, SPECIFICALLY THROUGH DOGE, UM, DISCUSSION ON IMPACTS OF TARIFFS AND HOW WAS AFFECT THE COURT ACTIVITY, UM, IN DISCUSSION ON 20 20, 20 28, OLYMPIC AND PARALYMPIC GAMES, AND ALL 20 PRIORITY PROJECTS, UM, DISCUSSIONS AROUND LONG BEACH AIRPORT PRIORITIES, UM, AND STATE SPEECH UPDATES AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR COLLABORATION.

UM, AND WHAT I, UM, WHAT WE TOOK BACK FROM, UH, FROM THOSE MEETINGS, UM, AFTER, UH, HEARING FROM OUR LOBBY TEAM, COLIN AND I, WHO HELPED SET UP THE TRIP, UM, FROM, UH, FROM THE STAFF AND FROM CLAYTON, UM, SOME OF THE REFLECTIONS FROM THE MEETINGS AND NEXT STEPS THAT, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, BUILDING AND MAINTAINING THESE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE DELEGATION, UH, AND THE AGENCY THAT IS CRITICAL TO HAVE THOSE CONNECTIONS.

UM, SO ABSOLUTELY WE'LL CONTINUE DOING THAT.

UM, THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF ROOM FOR COLLABORATION AROUND SPACE BEACH AND THE AIRPORT PROJECTS.

UM, AND OF COURSE, CONTINUING OUR WORK MOVEMENT AND PORT, UM, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS MAY SEEM OBVIOUS, BUT OF COURSE, CHANGES IN FEDERAL FUNDING.

AND THAT'S REALLY GOING TO BE, UM, OUR BIGGEST KIND OF CONFLICT, UM, AND CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH, AND THAT WE NEED OUR HELP, UM, ON HOW WE CAN LEAD DYNAMIC AS WE NAVIGATE ALL OF THIS.

UM, NEXT SLIDE.

BUT WITH THAT, I WANTED TO, UH, HAND, UH, THE, UH, MICROPHONE, SO TO SAY, TALK TO COUNCIL , UM, TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ADD OR ANY THOUGHTS THAT YOU HAVE ON SOME OF THE MEETINGS, UM, TO THE DISCUSSION.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

UM, AND THANK YOU,

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CLAYTON, FOR ATTENDING AND SUPPORTING AND TO THE TEAM THAT, UH, AT HOLLAND AT NIGHT, OR WALKED US THROUGH THESE MEETINGS.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS AS I WAS GOING THROUGH MY NOTES ON EACH MEETING AND THE THINGS THAT WERE DISCUSSED IS YOU TALKED ABOUT THE MAJOR POINTS.

I THINK WE TALKED WITH ALMOST ALL OF THOSE THINGS WITH ALMOST EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OR REPRESENTATIVE, UM, ESPECIALLY AROUND THE OLYMPICS, ABOUT TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE AS A REGIONAL ISSUE, NOT JUST A LONG BEACH ISSUE, UM, BUT REALIZING THAT SOME OF THE MOST URGENT THINGS THAT WE WERE TOP OF MIND AT THAT TIME ARE DIFFERENT.

AND SOME OF THOSE URGENT THINGS FROM TWO MONTHS AGO, UM, ARE STILL OF CONCERN TO US, BUT HAVE BECOME LESS URGENT AS OTHER URGENT MATTERS.

SO JOB CORPS HAD JUST BEEN CUT THE DAY BEFORE WE WERE IN DC.

SO, UH, WITH, UH, SENATOR SHIP, WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE HISTORY OF JOB CORPS IN LONG BEACH, WHAT THE IMMEDIATE IMPACTS WERE GOING TO BE, UH, WITH THE CUTTING OF THAT.

UM, SO IT'S INTERESTING TO REFLECT BACK A LITTLE BIT LATER OF, UH, THE URGENT ITEMS, BUT THAT THE STANDARD OR THE BIGGER ITEMS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON WITH THIS COMMITTEE AND WITH THE CITY, WITH SOME OF THESE REPS FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THAT REMAIN THE SAME.

SO AROUND INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, AROUND THE OLYMPICS, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? UM, I, I NOTED THAT WITH EVERY APPROPRIATE REPRESENTATIVE, INCLUDING SENATOR SCH, REPRESENTATIVE BARON GARCIA, SENATOR PADILLA'S OFFICE, AS WELL AS, UH, THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION AND POSSIBLY THE HOUSE SCIENCES SPACE, UM, TALKING ABOUT AIRPORT ISSUES INCLUDING UNLEADED FUEL, UM, REALLY, UH, TRYING TO ASCERTAIN WHETHER THE EQUAL PROJECT WAS ON TRACK IN TERMS OF THE TIMING OF THE PHASE OUT OF UNLEADED FUEL, UM, AND REITERATING THE SAFETY AND IMPORTANCE OF THAT ISSUE, UH, FOR FOLKS IN OUR CITY.

UM, WITH REPRESENTATIVE FONG AND TY, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

I KNOW SPECIFICALLY, UM, REPRESENTATIVE TY IS A PILOT.

SO WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT GENERAL AVIATION AND THE CONCERNS IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND HE HAS FLOWN INTO OUR AIRPORT AND THE NEED FOR, UM, SUPPORTING UNLEADED FUEL TRANSITION OR HEALTH AND SAFETY.

UM, BUT SPECIFICALLY WITH HE AND REPRESENTATIVE FONG TALKING ABOUT THE SPACE TRIANGLE THAT WE HAVE, UM, A LOT OF INNOVATION.

WE HAVE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING AND UNDERSTANDING THAT AS SOME OF OUR COMPANIES NEED TO TEST THINGS, THOSE HAPPEN IN REPRESENTATIVE BOMBS DISTRICT.

UM, SO THEY CALLING THE SPACE TRIANGLE OF IF WE'VE GOTTA GO OUT AND TEST LIKE THAT, IT ALL HAPPENS OUT IN CHINA LAKE, WHICH HE REPRESENTS.

AND, AND REALLY TRYING TO CONNECT THE DOTS BETWEEN THOSE COMMUNITIES OF R AND D WORK THAT'S HAPPENING HERE WITH OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEIR COMMUNITIES, UM, TO ENGAGE IN THE WORK IN A DIFFERENT WAY, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH MANUFACTURING OR TESTING, BUT REALLY WANTING TO HAVE A COHESIVE CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMUNITIES, UM, THAT SUPPORT, UM, THAT SPACE INDUSTRY HERE.

UM, IN CALIFORNIA AND THE HOUSE SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY SPACE COMMITTEE, WE HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT REAUTHORIZATION OF NASA WAS ON THE TABLE, AND WHAT ANY CHANGES WOULD BE THAT COULD IMPACT CONTRACTS THAT SOME OF OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES, UM, ARE EITHER EXPECTING BEEN PROMISED OR COUNTING ON FOR THE FUTURE OF SPACE TRAVEL, UH, WAS IMPORTANT.

SO, UM, TALKING TO THOSE, UM, THOSE NON-REPRESENTED FOLKS, THOSE CIVIL SERVANT FOLKS WHO ARE DEEPLY ENTRENCHED IN, UH, IN SPACE AND ALL OF THAT WAS THAT ONE CONVERSATION TO HAVE AROUND THEIR EXCITEMENT FOR THE WORK.

BUT HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING, UH, RESOURCES WHERE WE CAN, UH, THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, I WAS REALLY ABOUT OLYMPICS.

THEY REALLY WANTED TO KNOW WHAT OUR PLAN WAS, HOW WE WERE WORKING WITH LOCAL AGENCIES WITH SCAG TO PRESENT FOR THEM.

THEY THOUGHT THE BEST OPPORTUNITIES INSTEAD OF EACH CITY COMING TO THEM AND SAYING, WE NEED THIS FOR THE OLYMPICS, IS HOW ARE WE WORKING AS A COORDINATED REGION TO PRESENT THAT TO THEM, SORT OF A MASTER PLAN THAT THEY CAN FUND.

UM, SO THEY WERE REALLY LOOKING FOR CONFIRMATION OF THAT COLLABORATIVE WORK.

SO WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ALLEN BEING THE PRESIDENT OF SCAG AND THEM BEING HEAVILY FOCUSED ON THIS AT THIS TIME, UM, IT REALLY ALLOWS US TO, TO SEGUE INTO THOSE CONVERSATIONS PRETTY EASILY.

SO THAT WAS THEIR SPECIFIC QUESTION FOR US IN THAT MEETING.

AND THAT AT THE FAA, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THOSE LOCAL ISSUES.

WE TALKED, UM, AT THE TIME, UM, THERE HAD BEEN SOME MASS LAYOFFS AT THE FAA, UM, AND AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL, AND NOT JUST CONTROLLERS, BUT THE SUPPORT STAFF WHO KEEP CONTROLLERS WORKING IN ON TASK.

UH, SO REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE CONCERNS, UH, FOR SAFETY, NOT JUST FOR OUR AIRPORT, BUT EVERY AIRPORT IN THE REGION.

WE KNOW WE'VE GOT LOTS OF THEM AND VERY BUSY.

UM, SO RAISING THAT AS WELL AS, UH, NOISE CONCERNS.

WE HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT THE VOLUNTARY EFFORTS THAT WE'VE DONE, THE COUNCIL APPROVING MONEY TO SUBSIDIZE UNLEADED FUEL, UM, THE REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE INSPECTION AND THE CERTIFICATE TO HAVE CLAIMS CERTIFIED TO BE ABLE TO USE THE FUEL UNLEADED FUEL THAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE MARKET.

WE REALLY ARE THE ONLY AIRPORT THAT'S DOING THAT.

THEY USE, THEY VERY SPECIFICALLY SAID THAT AS OTHER AIRPORTS COME TO AND THEY USE THE WORK THAT LONG BEACH HAS DONE AS A MODEL FOR,

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UM, OTHER GENERAL AVIATION PROGRAMS AROUND THE COUNTRY.

AND SO HE WAS REALLY GRATEFUL TO CONTINUE TO BE IN CONVERSATION.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE VERY FIRST FA, A MEETING WE HAD WHERE WE HAD 12 PEOPLE AROUND THE TABLE AND 16 PEOPLE ON ZOOM TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

AND IT WAS, WE DIDN'T, WE WEREN'T AS BOLD IN OUR CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE IT WAS REALLY NEW FOR THE FAA TO KIND OF BE IN THAT SPACE WITH US.

AND SO THE EVOLUTION OF THE CONVERSATION OF BEING ABLE TO DIVE RIGHT IN, TALK ABOUT THE EXPECTATION OF TRANSITION TO UN UNLIMITED FUEL, UM, AND THE EXPECTATION OF COLLABORATION WAS REALLY HEARTENING TO SEE OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS.

SO IT'S KIND OF THAT SLOW AND STEADY WORK THAT PAYS OFF, ESPECIALLY WITH THE CAREER CIVIL SERVANTS WHO WERE DOING THAT WORK AND EXPERTS IN THE AREA.

SO, UM, THOSE WERE MY NOTES.

IT WAS, UM, A GREAT DAY.

IT WAS A BUSY, BUSY FAST DAY AND HOLLAND NIGHT, UH, EXPERTLY GOT US AROUND TOWN AND, AND TO HELP SU HELP SUPPLEMENT THE WORK THAT WE DID, UM, IN THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD.

SO I'M SUPER GRATEFUL.

SWEET.

YEAH.

FOR THAT.

THAT'S ALL.

GOT GREAT.

THANK, WITH THAT I, TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, UH, THAT CONCLUDE, UH, MY PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU.

UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM HER? NO.

COLLEAGUES.

ANY COMMENTS TO THE PUBLIC RIGHT FORWARD? UH, VOTE FOR VOTE MEMBER DUGGAN AYE.

VICE CHAIR? KURT.

AYE.

CHAIR, YOUR HONOR.

AYE.

MOTION IS CARRIED.

THANK YOU.

NEXT, PLEASE.

ITEM FOUR, RECOMMENDATION TO CONSIDER PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE 2025 LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.

I GET A MOTION, PLEASE.

MOTION SECOND.

HOLD A SECOND.

UM, THANK YOU.

UH, SO THIS TIMING OF THIS MEETING, UM, IT WORKS OUT FAIRLY WELL WITH COUNCILMAN DUGGANS ITEMS COUNCIL ON TUESDAY.

UM, THAT WAS, UH, PURE COINCIDENCE.

UH, WE HAD BEEN IN PROCESS OF SCHEDULING THIS.

UM, AND SO, UM, HAPPY TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, MAKE THINGS HAPPEN, UM, IN GOOD TIMING.

UH, SO WE HAD INCLUDED AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA, UM, IN THE INSERT THE END OF PAST.

UM, AND SO WE'RE ABLE TO NOW HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT NOW.

UM, SO THIS IS, UH, WITH ABOUT 48 HOUR KIND OF, UH, YOU KNOW, PREPARATION, SO PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND.

UM, BUT THIS IS A TOPIC THAT, UH, CLAYTON AND MYSELF AS WELL AS, UM, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUS MANAGERS OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS, UH, CITY MANAGER STAFF, ALL HAVE, HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING FOR A LONG TIME.

SO WHEN I FIRST CAME ON, I JUST REALLY GOT INTO THIS ISSUE.

AND SO, UM, ABLE TO PROVIDE, UM, SOME BACKGROUND, UM, AND THEN HAVE OUR DISCUSSION AS OUTLINED, THE COUNCIL ITEM.

SO, UH, BEFORE WE GET TO THE SLIDE, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I WANTED TO MENTION A LITTLE BIT, UM, AGAIN, CAN REMEMBER REINTRODUCTION TO THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA PROCESS.

UM, AND THAT IS, UM, LEGISLATIVE AGENDA IS UPDATED EVERY YEAR BY STAFF.

AND SO IT IS, UH, STAFF DRIVEN BECAUSE THEY ARE THE EXPERTS IN WHAT THE DEPARTMENTS NEED, AND THAT PROCESS USUALLY KICKS OFF IN THE FALL.

NOW, LAST YEAR, UM, WE WERE QUITE DELAYED BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF CHANGES TO THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.

SO, UH, CLAYTON AND MYSELF.

UM, AND ALSO A QUICK OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE OUR INTERN SYDNEY, UM, WHO'S BEEN HELPING US, UM, PUT TOGETHER AND ACTUALLY MOVING THE PROCESS FORWARD ABOUT TWO MONTHS SO THAT WE HAVE EVEN MORE AMPLE TIME.

GREAT.

UM, TO REALLY GET THOSE CHANGES IN.

SO WE ARE KEEPING THAT PROCESS OFF NOW.

UM, SO IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO, WE WILL BE TRAINING, UM, POLICY LIAISONS TO SHOW THOSE STAFF IN THOSE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, AND THEN MEETING WITH THEM ONE ON ONE THROUGHOUT SEPTEMBER TO WORK ON THEIR CHANGES TO THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.

NOW, OF COURSE, UM, I, COUNCIL MEMBER OR A COMMITTEE MEMBER CAN, AT ANY POINT ABOVE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, RECOMMENDED A CHANGE THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.

IT IS NOT A, UH, SET IN STONE DOCUMENT, THINGS COME UP.

AND SO, UH, WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT PROCESS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO ACT ON THINGS AS THEY, AS THEY HAPPEN.

SO OUR ONCE A YEAR PROCESS IS MORE, UM, WHOLE AND, AND, AND, UH, OVERARCHING.

UM, BUT IF NECESSARY, IF THERE ARE TOPICS THAT COME UP THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, WE HAVE THIS, THIS PROCESS.

UM, SO TO SPEAK TO THE, THE ITEM FROM COUNCIL, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, UH, VERY QUICKLY IS, WHILE THIS OF COURSE IS A BIG TOPIC HERE, THE STATE LONG BEACH AND NOT REALLY A COMMON THING FOR OTHER CITIES, THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA HAS VERY, UH, SPECIFIC AND, UH, MINIMAL LANGUAGE ON OIL.

SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE ON THE SLIDE IS ACTUALLY THE ONLY FOUR BULLET POINTS THAT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS, UM, OIL.

UM, THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA ALLOWS CLAIMANT AND MYSELF TO ACT ON, UH, THE CITY'S BEHALF WHEN IT COMES TO ADVOCACY.

NOW,

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THE, THE GOOD AND BAD OF THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA IS, IS, UM, LIKE FOR ITEM TWO THAT IS VERY SPECIFIC TO RAIL.

THAT MEANS IF LEGISLATION OR GRANT OR POLICY CAME UP THAT SAID, UH, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT LEGISLATION, UH, OR NOTIFICATION PREVENTION AND RESPONSE TO PRUDE SHIP TO CALIFORNIA VIA RAIL, WE CAN ACT ON THAT.

NOW, IF IT IS IN ANY WAY SLIGHTLY DIFFERS FROM THAT SENTENCE, THEY AND I ARE NO LONGER ABLE TO ACT ON IT.

UM, SO WE HAVE OTHER THINGS IN HERE, UM, OF COURSE ABOUT OUR SUBSIDE FUND, BUT AGAIN, THAT LEDGE LIMITS US TO ONLY SPEAKING ABOUT THE SUBSIDE FUND, THE MAINTENANCE OF EXISTING OIL PROPERTY.

AGAIN, THAT LIMITS US TO SPEAKING ABOUT, UH, MAINTENANCE.

UM, AND THEN THE TOP ONE IS THE LEGISLATION FUNDING FOR ALLOCATE DIRECT FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO CITY LIABILITY FOR OIL WEALTH ABANDONMENT, UM, OR, OR SB 1425, WHICH WE'RE PROBABLY ALL AWARE OF.

UM, BUT THEN AGAIN, THAT IS SPECIFIC TO ABANDONMENT.

UM, SO THE ITEM PRESENTED AT COUNCIL, UM, HAS CONSIDER, UM, ADDITIONAL TOPICS AND UNDERSTANDING, UH, ABOUT, UM, THE WORK THAT WE AS THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD.

THE NEXT SLIDE, THE NEXT SLIDE.

UM, SO AGAIN, WITH OUR, OUR, UH, 48 HOURS, UH, BUT CLAY AND I TOOK A LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE AS SOON IT WAS INTRODUCED.

UM, WE HAD, UM, A COUPLE OF SUGGESTED ADDITIONS BASED OFF OF SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE ALREADY.

UM, ALTHOUGH THIS IS ALL OPEN TO DISCUSSION, UM, AND ANYTHING THAT YOU AS COMMITTEE MEMBERS MAY RECOMMEND.

UM, UH, SO SUPPORTING POLICY LEGISLATION AND FUNDING THAT HELP FACILITATE THE CITY'S RESPONSIBLE STRATEGIC CONVEY OUT OF LOCAL OIL EXTRACTION OPERATIONS, UH, BEEN DOCUMENT TO, AND THEN A NUMBER OF THE ITEMS, UM, AS MENTIONED IN THE COUNCIL ITEM.

UM, NEXT TWO SLIDES, I GUESS.

UM, SO AFTER THE DISCUSSION, UM, TODAY AND ANY RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, THAT YOU PUT FORTH TO STAFF, UM, TO WORK ON, UM, WE NEED IGA COMMITTEE APPROVAL FOLLOWED THEN BY A COURSE OF COUNCIL VOTE TO APPROVE OF ANY AMENDMENT AMENDMENTS.

THIS IS ALSO OUR NORMAL PROCESS THAT WE DO WITH OUR REGULAR UPDATE COMES TO YOU ALL GOES TO THE FULL CITY.

UM, AS MENTIONED, THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA PROCESS WILL BE IN BACK ON THE 26TH.

AND THEN WHAT WE WOULD USE THAT CHANGE IN THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, UM, WOULD BE TO WORK ON OUR, UM, ONGOING ADVOCACY WITH OUR STRATEGIES WHO, OUR STATE LOBBY, WORKING WITH OUR DELEGATION MEMBERS, AND OF COURSE WITH CITY STAFF AND WITH STAFF.

UM, AND THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION, BUT LET'S GO BACK FOR THE DISCUSSION TO, UM, THE, UH, CHANGE SUGGESTED ADDITIONS SLIDE AS REQUESTED IN THE COUNCIL ITEM.

UM, SO WITH THAT, UH, THIS IS A, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO CONSIDER PROPOSED CHANGES.

AND SO THAT WOULD COME FROM YOU ALL THE COMMITTEE.

UM, UH, CLAYTON AND I ARE HAPPY TO SUGGEST SOME POTENTIAL LANGUAGE THAT WOULD ADDRESS, UM, WHAT WE HAVE HERE ON THE SLIDE.

UM, BUT I, I WOULD IT ALL, UM, BE FOR DISCUSSION, ANY COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES? BE, UH, YES, BECAUSE I'M NOT, UM, FAMILIAR WITH HOW THIS PROCESS GOES.

I APPRECIATE YOU EXPLAINING ALL OF THAT.

SURE.

UH, BASELINE, SUGGESTED, SUGGESTED ADDITIONS.

WOULD THAT IN THE CURRENT, IF YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE , SO OUR CURRENT LEGISLATIVE AGENDA LANGUAGE, IS THAT IN PRIORITY ORDER? UH, NO.

SO IT IS NOT IN ANY PARTICULAR ORDER.

UM, WE HAVE AN ENERGY RESOURCES SECTION OF THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.

THE TOP ONE WAS, UM, IN OUR, UM, PRIORITY TOPICS OR FOR THE YEAR.

SO IN THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, IN THE INTRODUCTION SECTION, WE DO HIGHLIGHT, UM, A HANDFUL OF PRIORITIES FOR THE YEAR.

THE REST OF THEM THOUGH, ACTUALLY JUST HAVE THEM FALL UNDER THEIR, THEIR DEPARTMENT SECTION.

OKAY.

SO FOR THE PROPOSED CHANGES, WHERE WOULD THAT FALL? UNDER THE, YOU SAID IT'S UNDER THE ENERGY RESOURCE? YEAH, SO WE COULD FALL UNDER KIND OF, I, I THINK, UM, I'M NOT TOO CONCERNED ABOUT WHERE IT WILL FALL TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

AND, UM, AND PER KIND OF THE COMMENTS FROM THAT WERE MADE AT COUNCIL, I, I BELIEVE AT THE END OF THE DISCUSSION, MAYOR MADE A COMMENT ABOUT HAVING THIS BE ONE OF OUR TOP PRIORITIES.

SO, UM, MY RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF WOULD ACTUALLY BE THAT WE

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HAVE IT UP AT THE TOP , RIGHT? A LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.

UH, AND THAT'LL BE KIND OF ONE OF OUR MAIN FOCUSES FOR THIS LEGISLATIVE SECTION.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.

YEAH.

NEXT SLIDE.

OKAY.

SO LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND, UM, SOME OF THE LANGUAGE, UM, THAT CLAYTON AND I, UM, HAD KIND OF COME UP WITH WOULD GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY AND, SORRY, I CLICKED MY BUTTON, AND OF COURSE IT DISAPPEARED, RIGHT? AS , ARE YOU ABLE TO PULL UP PROPOSED SENTENCE? SURE.

I THINK IT, IT IS A MOSTLY ENCOMPASSED, I THINK BY THE LAST BULLET POINT, WHICH I, WHICH TO SARAH'S EARLIER POINT KEEPS IT VERY BROAD.

WE WANT TO GIVE OURSELVES BROAD COVERAGE TO KIND OF ADDRESS THESE ISSUES AS THEY ARISE AND CHANGE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

HERE IT IS.

SO, SO ONE OF THE THINGS, SO HOW SHE WOULD KIND OF RECOMMEND STRUCTURING IT IS DOING A COMBINATION OF WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED IN THE COUNCIL ITEM.

UM, AND I CAN SAY IT VERBALLY HERE AND ACTUALLY IT UP TO YOU AFTER DISCUSSION, BUT SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF SUPPORTING POLICIES, LEGISLATION, AND GRANTS THAT FACILITATE COMPREHENSIVE AND STRATEGIC PLANNING FOR THE END.

TWO, OIL EXTRACTION, INCLUDING CONSIDERATION OF LIMITING EMPLOYMENT LOSSES, BUDGET IMPACTS, AND PLANNING FOR FUTURE DECOMMISSION AND SITE PREPARATION.

SO THAT KIND OF COMBINES THOSE THREE, THREE THERE.

CAN YOU REPEAT THAT AGAIN PLEASE? SURE.

SUPPORT, UH, POLICIES, LEGISLATION, AND GRANTS, WHICH IS KIND OF THE INTRO WE HAVE TO MOST ITEMS, UH, THAT FACILITATE COMPREHENSIVE AND STRATEGIC PLANNING FOR THE END OIL EXTRACTION, INCLUDING CONSIDERATION OF LIMITING UNDER LOSSES, BUDGET IMPACTS, AND PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE DECOMMISSION AND SITE PREPARATION.

SO THAT WOULD BE PLANNING FOR THE END OIL EXTRACTION, BUT INCLUDING HOW THAT IMPACTS, UH, EMPLOYMENT BUDGET AND HOW THAT IMPACTS HOW WE DECOMMISSION AND THE PREPARATION OF SITES AS WE DECOMMISSION.

SO THAT BOTTOM ONE WE HAVE INCLUDED IN THERE, MITIGATING BUDGET IMPACTS, SPECIFICALLY AND EMPLOYMENT LOSS.

UM, THE REDIRECTING OF INTEREST REVENUES FROM THE STATE'S OIL ABANDONMENT THAT CAN ACTUALLY BE INCLUDED UNDER THAT SUPPORT POLICY LEGISLATION AND GRANTS FOR, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING.

UM, AND THEN MODERNIZING THE STATE SURPLUS WOULD ALSO ACTUALLY FALL UNDER THAT.

SO IT'S A, YEAH, SO IT'S A, IT'S A BROADER STATEMENT, AND WHAT THAT ALLOWS US TO DO IS BE A LITTLE BIT DYNAMIC AND FLEXIBLE WITH HOW WE DO THAT.

UM, SO IT DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY HAVE TO BE LIKE A BILL.

IT COULD BE, UM, A NEGOTIATION WITH THE GOVERNOR OR A NEGOTIATION THROUGH BUDGET OR NEGOTIATION THROUGH X, Y, Z, YOU KNOW, SO YOU HAVE MADE IT FAR MORE GENERAL TO INCLUDE TECHNICALLY EACH OF THOSE THREE POINTS, THE MODERN MODERNIZATION, UH, MODERNIZE THE STATE SURPLUS FINDINGS.

MM-HMM .

I THINK THAT'S PRETTY IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE.

DOES THAT LIMIT YOU WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO MOVE SOMETHING FORWARD? UM, IT COULD, BECAUSE IF THERE'S A TOOL THAT DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY REFERENCE THAT, THEN I AM NOT AS, AS ABLE TO ACT ON IT.

HOW ABOUT THE, THERE CAN'T EVEN BE A DESCRIPTION OF LOOKING AT THE REVENUE SHARING FORMULA.

WELL, THAT WOULD LOOSELY FALL UNDER BUDGET IMPACTS, UM, AND STRATEGIC PLANNING FOR THE END OIL EXTRACTION.

UM, BECAUSE WHAT I WOULD HATE TO HAVE HAPPEN IS IF THERE'S LEGISLATION OR IF THERE ISN'T LEGISLATION, AND IT DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY HAVE THAT IN THERE, BUT IT STILL ACCOMPLISHES THAT GOAL, UM, THAT I OR CLAYTON WOULD BE ABLE TO ACT ON IT.

WE, WE COULD, I MEAN, WE COULD, WE COULD INCLUDE THE LANGUAGE JUST GENERALLY OUR RECOMMENDATION TO ELECTEDS AND TO STAFF IS IF THERE ARE, UM, IF IT IS A SPECIFIC THING THAT WE NEED TO SPECIFICALLY ACT ON, IT SHOULD BE SPECIFIC IF THIS IS A, A NEW TOPIC WITH A NEW STRATEGY, AND WE MAY HAVE TO BE DYNAMIC AND FLEXIBLE.

WE RECOMMEND ACTUALLY ALWAYS TO DEPARTMENTS TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF WIGGLE ROOM IN CASE CLAYTON AND I NEED TO TAKE DIFFERENT AVENUES FOR ADVOCACY.

I JUST DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED, THIS IS VERY SPECIFIC, RIGHT? SO BEING DYNAMIC AND FLEXIBLE WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS SPECIFIC AND WE HAVE, UM,

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WE HAVE PREVIOUS LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE USING.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS, BUT I THINK IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE BETTER TO INCLUDE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE.

WE CAN ALSO INCLUDE MULTIPLE THINGS.

OKAY.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ONE ITEM.

UH, WE, WE CAME UP WITH A, A, A GENERAL, A GENERAL THING THAT TRIED TO INCLUDE A THING, BUT LIKE I SAID, WE ONLY HAVE THOSE FOUR BULLET POINTS.

SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS SPECIFIC THINGS AND MULTIPLE ITEMS, UM, WE CAN ALSO DO THAT AS, AS WELL, UH, AS CHAIR.

YES.

UH, TWO QUESTIONS.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU TALKED ABOUT IN THE PROCESS IS THAT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY, UM, A COUNCIL MEMBER OR DEPARTMENT CAN BRING IT TO THIS COMMITTEE FORWARD MM-HMM .

SO IF SOMEHOW IN THE CONVERSATIONS, UH, LANGUAGE WAS CHANGED TO WORK AROUND SOME OF THIS, AND WE WERE AWARE OF THAT, WE COULD CALL A MEETING OF THIS COMMITTEE TO GET APPROVAL FOR EACH TO ACT ON IT.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND HAVE THE COUNCIL CONSENT TO YOU ACTING ON IT.

SO EVEN IF THERE IS LANGUAGE THAT ISN'T, UM, THAT THEY FOUND A WAY OUTSIDE OF OUR CONVERSATION MM-HMM .

WE CAN CALL, CALL YOU BACK, CALL A MEETING AND SAY, UH, THAT'S THE THING WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

WE GIVE YOU PERMISSION TO ACT ON IT.

RIGHT.

YOU HAVE POSSIBILITY.

OKAY.

UM, AND THE SECOND THING, SO WE TALKED ABOUT THAT GENERAL, UM, THE BROADER LANGUAGE.

SO, UM, UP HERE IT TALKS ABOUT FUNDING.

AND IN WHAT YOU SAID, YOU SAID GRANTS IS FUNDING A BIGGER TERM THAN GRANTS IN CASE, YEAH, WE COULD SHIFT TO FUNDING.

OKAY.

YEAH, BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT A THEY CALL, THEY DON'T CALL IT A GRANT.

IF IT'S A BUDGET ALLOCATION, IT'S NOT A GRANT.

YES.

BUT IT'S OKAY, FINE.

ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

WELL, I THINK FOR CLARIFICATION, YEAH, FOR STAFF, UH, YEAH, I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO WHAT, UH, VICE CHAIR KIRK SAID.

SO YOU'RE SAYING IT CAN STAY GENERAL, BUT WE CAN COME BACK TO IT.

WELL, I THINK, UH, YES.

AND THAT I THINK THE DIRECTIVE IS CLEAR ENOUGH THAT IF THERE IS MOVEMENT IN THESE AREAS, UM, BECAUSE YOU'LL BE FOLLOWING IT CLOSELY.

IF IT'S THE NUMBER ONE THING ON OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, CLEARLY YOU'RE GONNA BE TRACKING IT CLOSELY ENOUGH TO NOTICE IF THE CONVERSATION, IF THE LANGUAGE OF THE CONVERSATION SOMEHOW SHIFTS IN A DIRECTION THAT ISN'T INCLUSIVE IN OUR LANGUAGE, THAT YOU COULD COME TO US AND SAY, THEY'RE STARTING A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS.

IT MEETS THE GOAL OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

SO WE'RE ASKING FOR PERMISSION TO BE ABLE TO WORK UP WITHIN THE LANGUAGE THAT THEY'RE SETTING FORWARD UNDER THIS GOAL.

I JUST THINK WITH ALL THE WORK THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE ON THIS SPECIFIC ITEM, AND I WOULD DEFER TO YOU TO GIVE INPUT ON THIS, UM, THIS IS CLEAR AS FAR AS THE FINDINGS THAT ADAM HAS HAS FOUND, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME MORE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE ON THIS.

OKAY.

UM, UH, WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO DOING, UM, UH, INCLUDING THE BROADER LANGUAGE IN ADDITION ABSOLUTELY.

TO THAT.

OKAY.

ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE DOABLE.

YEAH.

FACING MORE, THERE'S, THERE'S DIRECTION TO GO IN WITH BROADER LANGUAGE.

YEAH.

AND A LOT OF THIS ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, IS, UH, JUST THE DISCUSSION AROUND WHAT YOUR PRIORITY IS AND HOW TO WORK THROUGH ALL OF IT AND, AND OUR KIND OF FEEDBACK ON THAT.

UM, SO THAT WILL ALSO GIVES ME KIND OF DIRECTION ON KIND OF WHAT THE PRIORITY THE COMMITTEE IS AND COUNCIL NOW, SO THAT WHEN CLAYTON AND I DO DO OUR ADVOCACY, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, FROM YOU ALL, BUT WHAT THE NORTH STAR IS, UH, SO THAT WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK INTO PROPOSED, UH, LANGUAGE.

I DO HAVE ONE ACTUAL QUESTION THOUGH, FOR PROCESS IS, UM, WOULD WE NEED TO BRING, UM, BACK PROPOSED LANGUAGE TO THE COMMITTEE? CAN, DOES THAT NEED TO BE, DO WE NEED TO CALL A COMMITTEE MEETING FOR IT TO BE VOTED ON? YES.

OKAY.

UM, SO THE ONLY THING THAT, ABOUT THE TIMING UNFORTUNATELY, IS THAT, UM, WE'RE MEETING TODAY.

UM, BUT UNLESS CLAYTON AND I DO NOT DOUBT THIS IS ABLE TO COME UP WITH LANGUAGE OFF THE TOP OF THIS HEAD RIGHT NOW, , UM, I THINK WE CAN USE THESE TWO BULLET POINTS.

LANGUAGE.

I THINK THIS, THIS HITS IT ON THE HEAD, RIGHT? IS THIS SPECIFIC TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING WE'RE RIGHT? IT IS.

SO WOULD YOU BE OPEN THEN TO ONE AND TWO, AND THEN OUR PROPOSED LANGUAGE THAT WOULD COVER THREE? YES.

BECAUSE THAT'LL GO BACK UP TO YES.

OKAY.

THAT'LL BE ALL INCLUSIVE, BECAUSE THREE WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE SUPPORT POLICY.

EXACTLY, YES.

WITH THE CHANGE OF, UH, FUNDING, KEEPING IT, FUNDING NOT GRANTS.

WHERE WAS IT? GRANT IN MY PROPOSED LANGUAGE, THAT CLAY THAT YOU READ TO US, UH, THAT I READ TO THAT CLAYTON

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PUT TOGETHER AFTER THE ITEM WAS RELEASED, BUT UM, JUST 'CAUSE THE TIMING WE COULDN'T GET.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO IF YOU'RE GREAT, NEVER DOUBT.

UM, CAN WE ROLL BACK TO ? CAN WE ROLL BACK TO THE FORM? UH, SLIDE.

THERE WE GO.

AND THE OTHER THING I'LL MENTION TO THE VICE CHAIR'S POINT, WHICH IS ALSO KIND OF HELPFUL IN TERMS OF TIMING, IS WE ARE GOING THROUGH OUR REGULAR UPDATE PROCESS AS WELL.

AND SO I WILL MEET WITH ENERGY RESOURCES AND ASK THEM IF THEY HAVE ANY PROPOSED, AND IT'S A STEP.

UM, SO THERE IS ACTUALLY ANOTHER ROUND OF DEPENDENCE THAT WILL COME FROM STAFF IN THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, SIX WEEKS.

UM, AND SO THAT WILL THEN COME TO THE COUNCIL IN, YOU KNOW, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER.

SO THE, I, THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA WILL COME BACK TO YOU ALL IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.

UM, AND SO THAT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF TIME IF WE NEED TO DO SOME FINE TUNING, UM, OR AS THE VICE CHAIR MENTIONS IT, OF IT FINE TUNING SOONER, I'LL, I'LL FIND YOU ALL AGAIN AND WE CAN, WE CAN DO IT THEN.

JUST SO I'M CLEAR OF WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS.

IS THE GOAL TODAY TO HAVE CLARITY FROM THIS COMMITTEE WITH ACTUAL LANGUAGE THAT CAN BE VOTED ON IN BROUGHT TO COUNCIL? UM, SO THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

AND THAT'S AUGUST 26TH.

WHAT WAS AUGUST 26TH? BUDGET? JUST BUDGET.

JUST BUDGET? YEAH.

OKAY.

THAT'S, YEAH, BECAUSE THE ITEM IS DIRECT, THE RECOMMENDATION TO CONSIDER PROPOSED CHANGES.

SO FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE PROPOSED CHANGES ARE TO INCLUDE THE TWO BULLET POINTS THERE AND THE ONE PROPOSED AS FROM STAFF, UM, WITH THE EDIT TO THE LANGUAGE FOR FUNDING .

SO WE JUST LOVE TO HAVE A FRIENDLY OR SOME, SOME SOMEHOW MOTION.

SO I'D LIKE TO OFFER, WELL, I'D LIKE TO OFFER A FRIENDLY, TO INCLUDE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO INCLUDE THE FIRST BULLET POINT, SORRY, THE SECOND AND THEN THE THIRD, OR WITH LANGUAGE PROPOSED BY GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS IN GENERAL WITH THE CHANGING OF GRANTS TO FUNDING, CORRECT.

SORRY, YES.

WITH THE CHANGE OF THE WORD GRANTS TO FUNDING IN FIRST ONE, OR I'M SORRY, THE GENERAL, THE GENERAL OVERVIEW IN THE NEXT SLIDE.

NEXT, AND I HAVE THAT WRITTEN OUT.

UM, SO, BUT WE'LL GO TO COUNCIL, WE'LL HAVE OUR, IS THERE CLARITY AMONGST EVERYONE? I, I'D LIKE YEP.

I'D LIKE TO HAVE DISCUSSION ON THIRD POINT HERE OR SECOND POINT, I'M SORRY.

UM, I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE, UH, THAT WE TAKE OUT VIA RADIO.

OKAY.

UM, OKAY.

HOW, HOW CALL, WELL, I THINK LAST NIGHT WE WERE ON THE PORCH TOUR WITH A HUNDRED PEOPLE AND WE HEARD THE HISTORY OF SHIP TO CALIFORNIA BE REAL.

SO WHEN BARGES COME IN, THEY SIT IN THE COURT, THEY IDLE FOR VERY LONG TIME, SOMETIMES WAITING FOR PRICES IN, IN OIL TO GO UP OR DOWN.

WHEN WE SPECIFY IT TO GOING VIA , I THINK WE LIMIT LOOKING AT FRUIT OIL SHIPPED TO CALIFORNIA.

I SEE.

AS A WHOLE.

SO BY REMOVING VIA RAIL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM FURTHER PARTIES.

SURE.

UM, THAT I, YEAH, THAT I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH ENERGY RESOURCES TO SEE THE HISTORY BEHIND WHY THAT WAS ADDED IN.

UM, UH, UH, I, BUT I SEE TO YOUR POINT, UM, THAT IS A BIG TOPIC, UM, AS OF THIS WEEK.

UM, AND SO, UM, I WOULD HAVE TO, TO CHECK AND SEE ON WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE ON CHANGING THAT.

UM, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT I CAN DISCUSS WITH THEM ON, UH, UH, THE PARTICULAR REASON IT WAS INCLUDED, I GUESS.

UM, I KNOW YOU SAID YOU CHECK WITH ENERGY RESOURCES, CAN YOU CHECK WITH THE PORT? YES.

I MEAN, I, I WOULD GUESS WITHIN THE PORT DEPARTMENT THAT THERE'S A WHOLE SET OF REQUIREMENTS AROUND WHAT COMES IN AND WHAT STAYS WHERE.

SO THOSE, THAT THOSE MIGHT ALREADY EXIST, THERE MIGHT BE NOTIFICATIONS

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THAT ARE HANDLED WITHIN THE COURT DEPARTMENT.

SO THE IDEA IS TO MAKE THAT MORE GENERALLY KNOWN IN THE WORLD THAT PERHAPS WORKING WITH THE COURT IN TERMS OF HOW THEY COMMUNICATE OR MAKE THAT INFORMATION ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE COULD BE SOMETHING THAT ACCOMPLISHES THE SAME THING.

BECAUSE I AM VERY CURIOUS ABOUT THE CONTEXT YEAH.

UM, OF THE VIA RAIL, BECAUSE I KNOW SOMETIMES WHEN YOU PUT THINGS LIKE THIS, UM, WE DID IT WITH UNLEADED FUEL, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO MM-HMM .

UM, THAT AS ISSUES ARISE, WE RESPOND.

AND I'M WONDERING IF SOMETHING HAPPENED VIA RAIL IN TERMS OF KNOWING THAT THAT'S NOT THE SAFEST OF TRANSPORTATION FOR CRUDE OIL, UM, THAT MADE THIS A PRIORITY FOR US.

SO I, I WOULD BE CURIOUS THE HISTORY OF HOW IT CAME INTO BE AND WHY, BUT ALSO WHAT THE PORT MECHANISMS ARE OF COMMUNICATION OF WHAT COMES IN AND OUT OF THE PORT TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH, WE CAN LOOK IN, WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT.

UM, WHEN WE DO THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA UPDATES AND WE PROVIDE THAT ALL THE CHANGES TO AS A TFF, UM, ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS IS THAT ANYTHING EDITOR OR ADDED HAS TO HAVE RATIONALE.

UM, SO SOMEONE DID HAVE TO GIVE RATIONALE TO THAT.

AND SO WE CAN, UM, WE CAN TRACK THAT DOWN IN DEPART ENERGY RESOURCES AS WHAT THAT YEAH, BECAUSE IT IS ODDLY SPECIFIC AND THERE ARE SOME ITEMS IN THE LEDGE CENTER AGENDA THAT ARE VERY ODDLY SPECIFIC, UM, AND THEY ARE DIRECT RESPONSES TO SOMETHING THAT WAS HAPPENING AT THAT MOMENT IN TIME.

SO ARE, WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO, TO HAVING ME KIND OF DO THAT? WAIT, AND THEN ABSOLUTELY.

BACK ON WITHIN THE NEXT, WHEN IS OUR NEXT MEETING? UH, WELL, WE WILL MEET SOMETIME IN, AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

UH, WE HAVE A SET MEETING TO DO THOSE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, UM, UPDATES AS OF RIGHT NOW THAT POTENTIALLY NOVEMBER.

UM, SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THAT, UM, THAT WOULD BE KIND OF OUR NEXT PREPLANNED MEETING, SO TO SAY.

CAN I ASK ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION? IS THERE, UM, AN ASPECT OF THAT OTHER THAN NOTIFICATION PREVENTION AND RESPONSE THAT YOU'RE SPECIFICALLY CONCERNED ABOUT AS IT RELATES TO THE MOVEMENT OF OIL? WELL, I THINK I, NO, IT'S JUST SPECIFIC ABOUT VIA RAIL.

SO, UM, WITH THE CONTEXT, AS I SAID, WHAT IS, SO IT'S MORE ABOUT HOW OIL IS BEING MOVED.

YEP.

OKAY.

YEP.

AND HOW IT'S NOT BEING MOVED BASED ON THE PRICE OF OIL.

I MEAN, DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE FOR, FOR MAKING MONEY.

SO WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.

GOTCHA.

WELL, THAT'S KIND OF INTERESTING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT MORE GENERAL, MORE GENERAL STANDARDS, MORE.

YEAH.

WE'RE LOOSENING IT UP SO WE CAN PINPOINT MORE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

SHE CLEAR, I BELIEVE I AM CLEAR AND EVERYTHING IS TO HOW WE NEED TO DO IT.

OKAY.

SO THE BOOKEND INCLUDES THE, UM, YOUR INITIAL BUDGET, WHICH WAS, UH, AGREED TO BY VICE CHAIR KER, AND THAT IS TO HAVE THOSE TWO POINTS AND THEN THAT INCORPORATED IN THAT REPLACES GRANTS FOR BOTH.

GOOD.

OKAY.

ANY, UH, , CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION JUST ON TIMING FOR PROCEDURAL? SO YES, ALL OF THAT, AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL QUESTION I HAVE IS WHEN THIS IS BROUGHT BACK AND IF APPROVED BY COUNCIL, UM, THIS MIGHT BE A CONVERSATION, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE OR IF IT WOULD BE, UH, THE GENERAL CONVERSATION AT THE COUNCIL MEETING IF IT'S APPROVED OR WHEN IT COMES TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL, UM, IS THE HOW.

YEAH.

UM, GOOD QUESTION.

SO I HAVE MY LIST OF LIKE, QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HOW, BUT THIS IS NOT THE APPROPRIATE TIME AND WE WANNA WAIT FOR ANOTHER IJ MEETING OR IF WE WANNA HAVE THAT BETTER, UM, BROUGHT WHEN IT COMES BEFORE COUNCIL, I CAN RESERVE THOSE QUESTIONS, BUT IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO READ THEM SO YOU, SO YOU CAN PREPARE HOWEVER YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO DO THAT.

SURE.

ONE OF THE THINGS AND MAYBE IS A DISCUSSION, UM, FOR MYSELF AND THE ATTORNEY TO HAVE IS, UM, WHILE READING THE ITEM PRESENTED BY COUNCILMAN DEVIN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, I GUESS I HAVE CONCERNS AROUND IS THAT THIS IS WONDERFULLY A PUBLIC MEETING AND SOME OF THAT DISCUSSION, I DON'T KNOW, UM, FOR STRATEGIC REGIONS SHOULD BE IN THE PUBLIC, UM, NOT FOR TRANSPARENCY REASONS, MOSTLY JUST SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A, AN HONEST AND DYNAMIC CONVERSATION ABOUT THE HOW.

UM, SO I THINK KIND OF MY QUESTION TO CITY ATTORNEY IS, IS, UM, WHEN WE ARE, UM, AND ONE OF THOSE THINGS IS OF COURSE, UM, WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH YOUR STAFF AND STAFF OF ENERGY

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RESOURCES ON COMING UP WITH HOW CLAYTON AND I HAVE BEEN IN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THE HOW, UM, THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS FLOATING AROUND.

UM, I PERSONALLY BE A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING A LOT OF THAT DISCUSSION OUT IN THE PUBLIC JUST BECAUSE A LOT OF, SOME OF THAT DISCUSSION MAY INVOLVE, UM, MEETINGS AND STRATEGY THAT, UM, WOULD UM, KIND OF HAVE A BASIS TO BE INCLUSIVE SUCCESSION UNDERGROUND.

OKAY.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT? I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH WHAT WOULD QUALIFY UNDER THE BROWN ACT.

UM, THERE THINK IS ONE STRATEGY THAT MAY INVOLVE THINGS THAT I DO KNOW FALLS UNDER THE BROWN ACT, BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW WE CAN TALK ABOUT LEGISLATION IF THAT WOULD BE WORKING A, A BROWN ACT CONVERSATION.

BUT THAT WOULD BE MY REQUEST TO YOU ALL AS A COMMITTEE IS IN ORDER TO BE STRATEGIC, UM, THAT IF WE CAN FIND A WAY TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS AT FIRST.

UM, IF ANYTHING, UM, WITHIN KIND OF A MORE PRIVATE AREA WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE.

YOU'RE SAYING WHEN YOU SAY A BROWN MEETING, YOU MEAN A CLOSED SESSION? CLOSED SESSION, YES.

YEAH.

WOULD FALL UNDER MM-HMM .

I CAN HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.

OKAY.

SO THAT DOES NOT DIRECTLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, BUT IT DOES GIVE YOU MY CONCERNS ABOUT THAT DISCUSSION.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE IMPORTANT THING BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE ARE TRACKING THIS PARTICULAR THING.

UM, AND WE KNOW THAT WHEN IT COMES TO LEGISLATIVE WORK, AS WE SAW WITH ALL OF THIS, THAT IT TAKES TIME AND RELATIONSHIPS AND MEETINGS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS, UM, TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT THE, WHAT THE DESIRE OF THIS COUNCIL IS.

ABSOLUTELY.

UM, AND POTENTIALLY EVEN LEGISLATION AND THE STEPS THAT WE GET TO THAT SPACE, UM, I THINK ARE STRATEGIC AND AT TIMES PROTECTED.

SO I JUST, I WANTED TO TO HAVE JUST SAY A LITTLE BIT OUT LOUD SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T SAY, WELL, AT THE MEETING YOU DIDN'T SAY WHEN BECAUSE EXACTLY.

THERE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN AND WE NEED TO MEET WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY IN APPROPRIATE WAYS TO SEE WHAT THE STEPS FORWARD ARE.

IF THIS IS APPROVED BY COUNCILMAN, IT COMES TO COUNSEL.

YEAH.

AND SOME OF THE, THE RESEARCH AND WORK THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING HAVE BEEN MARKED ATTORNEY, UH, CONFIDENTIAL.

AND SO THAT WAS ANOTHER REASON FOR US TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH YOU ALL IS HOW CAN WE OPEN THAT UP? UM, SO WE'RE STILL UNDER THAT PROTECTION, SO KAREN AND I ARE HAPPY TO FIGURE THAT ALL OUT.

UM, AND IT IS, IT IS IN MOTION AND HOW I CAN SHARE THAT ALL WITH YOU ALL.

WE WILL FIGURE OUT .

THANK YOU.

YOU ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? NO POLL.

MEMBER DUN AYE.

CHAIR, KIRK? AYE.

CHAIR, YOUR HONOR.

AYE.

MOTION.

CARRIE, THANK YOU AGAIN.

COME TO GENERAL COMMENTS.

ANY MEMBER TO THE PUBLIC? I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING NOT RELATED TO THE AGENDA.

NONE.

NONE BE THE THANK.