* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. IT WOULD BE LIKE US ARMY [00:00:01] OR USMC OR UH, NAVY, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A QR CODE THAT'LL LINK TO A WEBSITE SO PEOPLE CAN, UH, GO TO THAT WEBSITE AND LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT BETTER. SO WE WOULD PUT THEIR BIO AND THEIR PICTURE AND STUFF LIKE THAT ON A WEBSITE FOR PEOPLE TO GO AND LEARN MORE ABOUT. UM, SO, LIKE I SAID, APPLICATION PROCESS, WE'RE STILL, WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, HOW WE WANNA DO IT, WHETHER IT'S GONNA BE A PAPER FORMAT, PEOPLE FAX IN, OR IF WE'RE GONNA DO A WEBSITE WHERE PEOPLE APPLY ONLINE. SO WE'RE STILL FIGURING THAT OUT, UH, TIMELINE. SO BY THE END OF THIS MONTH, UH, I'LL WORK WITH THE AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE AND WE'RE GONNA START FINALIZING COSTS. UM, AND WE WANT TO SELECT A VENDOR AT THIS POINT, UM, TO GET MOVING. SO, UM, I'LL WORK WITH THE AD HOC GROUP ON THAT, AND THEN WE'LL MAKE THAT DECISION. UH, FEBRUARY IS WHEN WE'RE GONNA START, UH, PROMOTING OUR APPLICATION PROCESS. UM, AND THEN IDEALLY WHAT WE'RE HOPING FOR IS THAT WE CAN WORK WITH, UH, GINA AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO START DOING A PRESS RELEASE SO THAT WAY WE GET A LITTLE BIT MORE BUZZ ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW, PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE IN, UH, ALL THE, THE NEWSPAPERS AND SOCIAL MEDIAS AND STUFF LIKE THAT OUT THERE. UM, MARCH, WE'RE LOOKING FOR OUR APPLICATION DEADLINE, SO END OF MARCH, UH, THAT WAY AT OUR APRIL MEETING, WE WILL BE VOTING AS A COMMISSION, ASSUMING WE GET MORE THAN 32 VETERANS THAT APPLY FOR, WE'LL BE VOTING AS A COMMISSION TOO FOR THE 32 SPOTS. UH, ASSUMING THAT THAT'S HOW THE NUMBERS WORK OUT. IT COULD BE LESS, BUT WE'RE ESTIMATED 32. AND THEN FINALLY MAY IS WHEN WE'RE GOING TO PRINT AND INSTALL BANNER. SO WE'RE TARGETING, UH, PRINTING EARLY MAY AND INSTALLING ABOUT ONE WEEK BEFORE, UH, MEMORIAL DAY, SO THAT WAY THEY'RE UP AND WE CAN ADVERTISE THAT DURING A MEMORIAL DAY. THEN, UM, SO THE COST IS $331, THAT'S PART OF THE $10,000 THAT THE CITY'S GIVING, OR IS THAT THE COST TO THE, THE PERSON THAT WANTS TO PUT THE BANNER UP? SO RIGHT NOW, THE CITY HAS GIVEN US $10,000, RIGHT. AND AD HOC. SO WE HAD A COUPLE DECISIONS WE WANTED TO MAKE IS WHETHER WE WANT TO HAVE THE CITY COVER THAT FOR THE VETERANS THIS YEAR, OR DO WE WANT TO HAVE THE VETERANS USE A FEE BASIS KIND OF THING WHERE THE VETERAN PAYS FOR THE PRINTING AND, AND HANGING. UM, SO WE DECIDED AS THE AD HOC THAT WE WERE GOING TO JUST HAVE THAT $10,000 COVER ALL THE VETERANS DURING THE PILOT PROGRAM, SO THAT WAY WE COULD DON'T, IT'S ONE LESS THING THAT WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, IMPLEMENT THIS THING. AND THEN AS WE GET GOING, UM, WE'LL EVENTUALLY TURN THAT, THAT 330 BUCKS OR WHATEVER IT IS, UM, THAT WOULD BE ON THE, THE VETERAN, THE VETERANS FAMILY, OR THEY CAN EVEN FIND A SPONSOR TO HELP THEM OUT WITH THAT AS WELL TOO. UM, A LOT OF BUSINESSES MIGHT BE ABLE TO WANT TO DO THAT AS WELL. OKAY. SO FOR THE FIRST 32, IF THERE, IF IT'S, IF THE $10,000 IS USED UP, IT'S NO COST TO THE VETERANS. CORRECT. IF IT'S THE FIRST 32 IS OVER $10,000, THEN WHAT? SO I THINK WE'RE JUST GONNA CAP IT AT 10,000. SO LET'S SAY THE COST IS PROHIBITIVE AND WE CAN ONLY GET 30 BANNERS UP, THEN IT WOULD ONLY GO TO THE FIRST 30 VETERANS IN THAT, IN THAT PILOT PROGRAM. OKAY. AND THEN THE TWO, WE WOULD SAY, HEY, WE, WE LOVE YOU, WE WANT YOU TO REAPPLY FOR NEXT YEAR, OR WE'LL SAVE YOUR APPLICATION FOR NEXT YEAR. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT YOU, IT'S A ONE TIME FEE. IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN AGAIN NEXT YEAR. CORRECT. WE, THE $10,000 IS ONLY ONE TIME FEE. YEAH. UM, WE DID TALK ABOUT IN THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ABOUT, UM, SEEING IF NEXT YEAR, SEEING IF THE CITY WOULD BE WILLING TO COVER THE PERMIT FEES AT $306. UM, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE AN EASY TASK, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW. RIGHT. UM, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, BRINGING IT UP IN CONVERSATION ONCE THIS THING GETS UP AND RUNNING. QUICK QUESTION. KNOW THE PERMIT FEES? I, IS IT JUST ONE LARGE FOR OUR PROGRAM? OR IT'S PER BANNER? IT IT IS. THE PERMIT FEE IS FOR THE PROGRAM. PROGRAM. OKAY. SO ONE TIME COST EACH YEAR EACH. 60 DAYS. 60 DAYS, OKAY. YEAH. THE VETERANS, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE, UH, WE PREFER A COPY TO VETERANS OR SOME SORT OF A SUBSTITUTE. THANK FOR BRINGING UP. SO ONE, A COUPLE THINGS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, WE HAVEN'T ESTABLISHED THE CRITERIA OF THE VETERAN THEMSELVES. UM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS GONNA MENTION IS THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF TIE. UM, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE IS I WANT TO NOMINATE MY GRANDFATHER WHO WAS STATIONED OUT OF LONG BEACH DURING WORLD WAR II, AND IT WAS IN PACIFIC FLEET. SO FOR ME, HE NEVER LIVED IN LONG BEACH. HE WAS NEVER A RESIDENT OF LONG BEACH. BUT FOR ME, THERE'S A TIE BETWEEN MY GRANDFATHER IN LONG BEACH. 'CAUSE THIS WAS HIS PORT THAT HE WAS DEPLOYED AT. RIGHT? YEAH. SO I WANTED TO KIND OF COURT ENCOURAGE THAT. SO IF YOU WERE STATIONED IN LONG BEACH OR THAT YOU LIVE IN LONG BEACH, OR YOUR FAMILY'S FROM LONG BEACH, WHATEVER IT IS, IF THERE'S SOME SORT OF TIE TO LONG BEACH AND THAT VETERAN, I THINK THAT'S ENOUGH. BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT'S TO BE DISCUSSED AND VOTED ON BY, BY US AS THE COMMISSION. SO IT'S JANUARY AND WE WANNA HAVE ALL THIS DONE BY APRIL, UH, PRINTED AND HUNG BY MAY. END OF MAY. WELL, YEAH, BUT THEN THE APPLICATIONS START WHEN FEBRUARY. OKAY. AND WHEN DID THE, UH, ANNOUNCEMENT GONNA GO OUT? FEBRUARY. FEBRUARY? YEAH. SO RIGHT NOW OUR TIMELINE IS FEBRUARY IS WHEN WE'RE TARGETING HAVING THAT, [00:05:01] UH, MEDIA RELEASE AND IDEALLY HAVING SOME SORT OF IDEA HOW WE'RE GONNA COLLECT THOSE, UM, APPLICATIONS. WELL, I'M JUST NOT HAVE AN IDEA. WELL, WE, THE AD HOC GROUP IS GONNA HAVE TO BE MORE, A LITTLE BIT MORE OFTEN, UH, THAN ONCE A MONTH TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. BUT YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S, I TIRED THIS AND FIGURING OUT, UM, WHAT THAT APPLICATION LOOKS LIKE AND HOW WE'RE GONNA COLLECT IT. SO BY APRIL, WE SHOULD KNOW WHAT 30 OR WHOEVER BY APRIL WE'RE MAKING A DECISION, SHOULD KNOW THEN SUBMITTED TO THE PRINTER TO HAVE, HAVE THEM HAVE IT, RIGHT? MM-HMM . CORRECT. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT ERICA HA IS MOCKING UP A DESIGN AND SHE'S, WHO DESIGNED OUR POSTCARD FOR, UM, THE VETERAN'S DAY EVENT WHO DESIGNED OUR MEMORIAL DAY. THE LOOK AND FEEL COMES FROM ERICA. SO I JUST WANNA SHOUT HER OUT. EXACTLY. SO WE DO HAVE THE GRAPHIC DESIGNER HELP US OUT. DO WE HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF IT YET? UM, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. OKAY. TBD. RIGHT? SOUNDS GOOD. AND WE WANNA, WE WANNA SHARE IT WITH THE COMMITTEE AND HASH IT ALL OUT. FIRST, USE YOUR IMAGINATION. YOUR IMAGINATION, AND THAT'S OUT , TAKE YOUR IMAGINATION AND THEN JUST LOWER THE BAR. TWO NOTCHES SUCCESSFUL. AND UNICORNS. YEP. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON IT? I THINK I NAILED EVERYTHING. SHOULD WE JUST, SHOULD WE JUST CALL IT OUT WHEN WE WANT TO DO THESE MEETINGS? BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO DO IT MORE OFTEN. YEAH. LIKE, YOU KNOW HOW WE DO THIS EVERY SECOND WEDNESDAY. WE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING LIKE EVERY OTHER THURSDAY OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, AMONGST YOURSELF AS WE CAN AT LEAST DISCUSS IT TODAY. YEAH. HE'S STANDING THERE. UM, WITH MY THREE PEOPLE THAT ARE SITTING NEXT TO EACH OTHER BESIDES MYSELF ON THE AD HOG, UH, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT. BUT, UM, I'M LEAVING. WE'LL FIND A DATE THAT WORKS WRONG. FOUR OF US. ALRIGHT, I AWESOME. THANKS. UM, ALL RIGHT. SO I AM NOW GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE, UH, AN ELECTED CHAIR AND A MOVE VICE CHAIR. UM, I THINK THAT YOU ALL ALREADY KNOW THAT THIS IS MY LAST MEETING AS A CHAIR, UM, NOT MY LAST MEETING, UH, IN THE COMMISSION, BUT AS A CHAIR. AND SO I THINK, UH, CHANGE OF LEADERSHIP IS ALWAYS GOOD. GET SOME FRESH IDEAS OUT THERE AND, UH, MOVE FORWARD WITH THE COMMISSION. SO FOR NOW, UH, THIS, THE WAY WE'RE GONNA DO IT IS THAT WE'RE GONNA ANNOUNCE FIRST WE'LL DO THE CHAIR, AND THEN WE'LL DO THE VICE CHAIR. UM, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE FLOOR SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE CAN GET A NOMINATION AND THEN WE'LL ALL GO ON IT TOGETHER. I, I GUESS THAT LEAVES WHAT, UH, KENNETH, WHO ELSE IS NEW? BECAUSE EVERYBODY ELSE IS LEAVING IN JULY. WE STILL HAVE TO VOTE A NEW CHAIR EVERY JANUARY. YEAH, BUT WHO DO YOU, WHO DO YOU VOTE? HOW DO YOU DO THIS? BECAUSE WE KNOW WE'RE LEAVING. SO WHAT DO YOU DO THEN? YOUR CHAIR FOR SIX MONTHS? OH, REALLY? OKAY. YES. YEAH. SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, UH, THE FLOOR IS NOT OPEN FOR THE NOMINATION OF THE CHAIR. AND UH, NO, PLEASE MOVE KEN AS THE CHAIR. WELL, HOW ARE WE DOING THIS? THIS IS, YOU RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY, I NOMINATE MYSELF OR I NOMINATE SOMEONE. THEN WE'LL HASH. WE, WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE. I, WELL, OH, DO YOU WANT BE I GONNA, NO, HE DID IT. SO LET HIM DO IT. OKAY. MONEY. I DON'T, . THIS IS, THIS IS JUST LIKE THE, A NATIONAL CONVENTION HERE. WE WERE TALKING, WE TALKED ABOUT IT. IT'S LIKE YOU'VE GOT SOME IDEAS YOU WANTED TO RUN IN YOUR, IN YOUR END OF YOUR TERMS. SO THAT'S GREAT. AND THEN MAYBE I DO VICE CHAIR, AND THEN I'LL BE READY TO TAKE IT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE TURNOVER HAPPENS. OKAY. YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY'S IN PLACE THAT'S ALREADY READY TO TAKE ON. MOVE THE MIX TAPE. SO BASED OFF THAT STATEMENT, ARE YOU STILL WANTING TO ACCEPT YOUR NOMINATION FOR CHAIR? NO, I'LL LIKE THE, I'LL FOR, OKAY. THANK YOU. PERFECT. AND HOW ABOUT YOU, JUANITA? BECAUSE IT'S COMING IN SIX MONTHS. CHAIR. CHAIR. OKAY. SO YOU WANT ME CHAIR? JUAN, YOU WANT CHAIR? OH, COME ON MIKE. YOU DON'T EVEN WANT IT. WANTED TO LOCK DOWN THE DOOR. I DO WANT TO BE CHAIR FOR SIX MONTHS. OKAY. . ALRIGHT. SO, BUT, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS A, BUT OH MY GOD, I'M JUST HEARING ABOUT THIS THE FIRST TIME. SO MY FRIEND, ARE YOU NOMINATING YOURSELF FOR CHAIR? YES. ALL MIKE HIMSELF. MIKE IS NOMINATING HIMSELF. AND IS THIS THE LAST NOMINATION FOR CHAIR? OKAY. SEEMS LIKE IT. SO WHAT I'LL [00:10:01] DO IS I WILL CLOSE THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIR, AND I'LL GIVE, I CAN GIVE EACH ONE, EACH ONE OF YOU MAYBE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK AS TO WHY YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN. UM, YOU WANT EACH CHAIR? OKAY, GUYS, LET'S, LET'S BE AWARE OF THE TIME AND ALSO ROCK, PAPER, SCISSORS. LET'S WRONG WITH THAT. I'M JUST KIDDING. NO, . WE HAVE ALL TIME. OKAY. OKAY. SO, UM, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR, UM, FOR NOMINATING ME TO BE, UM, TO BE CHAIR. AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY AS, AS I HAVE EXPRESSED, YOU KNOW, BEFORE I FEEL, UM, AS BEING A MEMBER OF, UM, THE COMMISSION AND KIND OF, UM, STARTING WHERE WE WERE FROM GROUND ZERO. UM, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE MADE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, PROGRESS, YOU KNOW, WITH OUR, UM, OFFICE OF VETERAN SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE TRANSITION OF, YOU KNOW, THE VETERAN DAY PARADE TO THE FESTIVAL. UM, AND WE HAD AN AMAZING, YOU KNOW, EVENT THIS, THIS PAST YEAR FOR VETERANS' DAY AS WELL, ADDING ON A MEMORIAL DAY EVENT. I JUST THINK THAT, UM, HAVING THE VISION TO, SORRY, OF COURSE, IT'S PROBABLY MY KID. SORRY. UM, HAVING THE VISION TO TAKE THE COMMISSION TO, UM, TO ANOTHER LEVEL, RIGHT? UM, GIVING US MORE, UM, OF A VOICE TO BE THE REPRESENTATIVE OF VETERANS AND OUR FAMILIES AT CITY COUNCIL. UM, UM, SEEKING FUNDING, UM, FOR, IF WE CAN'T GET IT AS A BUDGET LINE ITEM WITH THE CITY, UM, SEEKING GRANTS TO SUPPORT SOME OF OUR EVENTS. UM, 'CAUSE WE KNOW THAT THINGS ARE NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, CHEAP, BUT THERE IS A NEED OUT THERE. AND, UM, ALSO ALIGN WITH OUR KEY ORGANIZATIONS, WHETHER IT'S FEDERAL OR STATE, UM, TO KIND OF SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, OUR OTHER GOALS, RIGHT? SO GOAL NUMBER TWO IS, UM, OUR VETERAN ORGANIZATIONS HELPING THEM TRANSITION VETERANS, UM, FROM ACTIVE DUTY INTO THE CIVILIAN LIFE. UM, THREE, THE RESOURCES FOR HOUSING, EDUCATION, EMPLOYMENT AND MENTAL HEALTH. WE KNOW THAT A LARGE NUMBER OF VETERANS THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, UM, HOMELESS FOLKS, UM, ARE VETERANS, RIGHT? SO WE NEED TO BE THAT VOICE, UM, AND ADVOCATE FOR THE VETERANS, UM, IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH, BUT ALL VETERANS, WHETHER THAT IS, UM, IN SACRAMENTO OR IS THAT, IF THAT IS AT, UM, IN WASHINGTON DC UM, I, I SEE, UM, MEMBERS OF, UM, OF THE VETERAN COMMISSION BEING PART OF A CONTINGENCY THAT'S GOING TO THE STATE CAPITOL. UM, WE HAVE A, UM, AN ALLY WITH, UM, OUR FORMER MAYOR, UM, ROBERT GARCIA, WHO WAS INVER, UM, WHO WAS VERY, UM, SUPPORTIVE OF ADVOCATING FOR, UM, VETERANS THAT REPRESENT HIS, UM, ASSEMBLY, HIS, UH, FORGET WHAT HE'S NOT ASSEMBLY ONE, HE'S A, HIS NEW POSITION REPRESENTATIVE. YEAH, HIS, YEAH, HIS REPRESENTATIVE. RIGHT. AND THEN, UM, ALSO FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH KIND OF REALLY TIES INTO GOAL NUMBER THREE. UM, AND I SEE US HAVING, UM, BEING MORE STRATEGICALLY ALIGNED, YOU KNOW, WITH LIKE OUR MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE, UM, VERY ON A REGULAR BASIS, UM, SUPPORTING THE CCF FOR VAN, RIGHT? SO BEING MORE IN LINE, NOT JUST WITH THE FOLKS THAT COME OUT IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH, BUT YOU KNOW, ATTENDING THEIR MEETINGS, RIGHT? UM, AND SOME OF THEIR EVENTS FOR VAN, THE LONG BEACH VA, WHICH IS A BIG ADVOCATE THAT WE HAVE. UM, US VETS AND CAL VETS, AS WELL AS SOME OF OUR NON-PROFIT OR, UM, OUR NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS. AND, UM, I LOVE THE VETERAN AND THE PARADE COMMITTEE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOME OTHER, UM, NON-PROFITS THAT ARE ALSO DOING THE WORK. SO BEING MORE IN LINE WITH THEM, BUT GIVING US A VOICE. UM, OUR VETERANS HERE, UM, IN THE CITY, UM, OF LONG BEACH. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHY I WANT TO, WHY I THREW MY HAT IN THE RING AND SAID THAT I WANTED TO BE, UM, THE CHAIR THIS TIME BECAUSE I FEEL THAT, UM, WE HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH A LOT OF OUR CITY COUNCILMEN. UM, BUT THEY ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT VETERANS. I THINK REX IS THE ONLY ONE, YOU KNOW, HE WAS A, UM, A NAVY BRAT, BUT THE OTHER ONES, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, I DON'T WANT VETERANS TO BE JUST SOME WORD THAT WE'RE THROWING OUT. I WANT TO GIVE A FACE, UM, TO, YOU KNOW, A NAME AND A FACE TO THOSE VETERANS THAT ARE IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH. SO THAT'S WHY I WANT TO RUN FOR, UM, THE CHAIR. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MARIA. ALRIGHT, SO WE WENT ABOUT THREE MINUTES. OH, SORRY. UM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOU THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME. THAT WON'T BE THAT LONG. I GUESS HE'S READY FOR A BACK , OUR FRIEND. JUANITA, YOU'RE WONDERFUL. AND EVERYTHING YOU SAID IS CORRECT. UM, ONE BIG THING I WANNA HARP ON IS I DO FEEL LIKE THAT WE ARE STILL KIND OF SUBDUED AMONGST THE OTHER COMMISSIONS IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH. AND A BIG WAY TO REALLY COME FORWARD IS THROUGH EVENTS. [00:15:01] WE'VE DONE A FEW, BUT WE'RE REALLY STARTING TO RAMP IT UP. AND EVENTS AND THROWING EVENTS IS IN MY BLOOD. I'VE DONE THAT FOR 17 YEARS, THE LARGEST MUSIC FESTIVALS IN THE WORLD TO PRODUCING SOME EVENTS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL. UM, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE MAKE AN IMPACT OF WHAT WE ARE AND WHO WE ARE SO PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY HAVE THESE RESOURCES. 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE CITY PEOPLE THAT KNOW, IT'S THE OFFICIALS THAT KNOW, BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, WE REALLY NEED TO GET DOWN IN THE STREETS AND LET OTHERS KNOW WHETHER THAT'S A BIG EVENT ON MEMORIAL DAY OR WE DO A EVERY OTHER MONTH KIND OF THING ON, YOU KNOW, TUESDAY WE GO TO LOCAL BUSINESSES AND PROMOTE, OR WE MAKE SURE WE HIT FIRST FRIDAYS AND THE LAST FRIDAYS AT ALL THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. SO I NOW HAVE THE TIME TO DO THAT BECAUSE I REMOVED MYSELF FROM A CORPORATE ENVIRONMENT AND I'M SELF-EMPLOYED AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'M HAPPY TO DO. RIGHT. UM, WITH THAT SAID, JUANITA WOULD MAKE A PERFECT VICE CHAIR BEING A CHAIR. AND I REALLY THINK THAT WE COULD DO A LOT OF WONDERFUL THINGS. UM, WE DO HAVE A, LISTEN, WE HAVE A STRONG TEAM. A LOT OF US ARE GONNA TERM OUT, RIGHT? AND I STILL, FOR SOME REASON, I'LL BE HONEST WITH, FOR SOME, I STILL HAVE A FIRE TO DO SOMETHING WITH HERE, YOU KNOW, WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IN THE COMMISSION FROM THE BANNERS TO THE MEMORIAL DAY EVENTS, IN ADDITION TO THE EVENTS I KNOW AND NAVIGATE THROUGH THE CITY, THROUGH THE SPECIAL EVENTS DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, TO NOT STAND DOWN AND STAY BACK WHILE THEY SAY NO, NO, NO. 'CAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS A WAY AROUND IT, WHETHER IT'S LICENSING, PERMITTING, SECURITY, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH. SO THE THINGS THAT I JUST SAID RING LIKE A LITTLE BELL TO YOU, MAKE YOU FEEL WARM AND FUZZY. I HIGHLY SUGGEST YOU, BUT FOR ME, , IT'S CUTE. . ALRIGHT, SO WE HEARD THE SPEECHES. UM, AT THIS POINT IT'S GONNA BE TIME FOR US TO VOTE. SO WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL NAME THE, I GUESS FOR YESES WE'LL JUST SAY, UH, WE'LL START WITH JUANITA FIRST. SO ANYBODY WHO IS INTERESTED IN JUANITA, COME THE MOVE CHAIR. YOU RAISE YOUR HAND. CAN YOU VOTE TWICE? , WHAT? CAN WE VOTE TWICE? ONLY COMMISSIONERS MAY VOTE. OH, SORRY. CAN I VOTE MYSELF? UH, THEY CAMPBELL YOURSELF, RIGHT? THE CAMPBELL WHAT CAN THEY, YES, OF COURSE. I THINK TRADITIONALLY WE'VE ALLOWED PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR THEMSELVES, SO YES, THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY, PERFECT. AND THEN FOR MIKE. OKAY, . PERFECT. SO IT, JUANITA AT THIS POINT HAS FIVE VOTES. UH, MIKE HAS TWO. SO AS OF NOW, JUANITA IS THE NEW CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION. AND THEN I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, CAN I NOMINATE KEN FOR VICE CHAIR? YEAH. SO NOW WE'RE GONNA THE FLOOR IS NOT OPEN FOR THE NOMINATION OF THE VICE CHAIR. SO WE HAVE KEN AS THE FIRST. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? I'LL SECOND. OKAY. I'M, NO, I WOULD'VE HAVE DONE THAT. OKAY. I GOT A PLAQUE. . OKAY, SO IS THAT IT? OKAY. SO THE FLOOR IS NOW CLOSED FOR, UH, VICE CHAIR. UH, AND IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY, WELL, I GUESS WE STILL HAVE ACCEPTANCE SPEECH. WE, WE STILL HAVE TO VOTE. WE ACCEPTANCE. WE HAVE TO VOTE, AMEND, JUST IN CASE. UH, SO ANYBODY IN IN FAVOR OF VOTING CAN AS A VICE, AS A VICE CHAIR, EVERYONE PERFECT IT. AND NOW YOU ARE VICE. I THINK MY FOCUS IS GONNA BE WRITING THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS, THE OTHER ONES TO GET THE NEXT ROUND OF GROUP OF MEMBERS IN. 'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA TAKE THEIR TIME ABOUT IT. IT'S NOT GONNA BE QUICK. SO ENSURE THAT BY JUNE WE HAVE A NICE SLATE OF GOOD, COMMITTED PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY WANNA DO SOMETHING IN PLACE. BECAUSE I HATE TO BE HERE ALONE. IT'S GONNA BE AWFULLY LOUDLY. ME S ONE. ALL RIGHT, COOL. DICTATORSHIP. OKAY, GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. AS OF NOW, I'LL GO AHEAD AND [00:20:01] TURN THE, UH, MEETING, UH, TO JUANITA TO CONTINUE CHAIRING FOR, UM, THERE HAS TO BE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO ACCEPT THE NEW SLATE. OH, SORRY. AND YES, SORRY. I WILL MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE NEW SLATE WITH JUANITA AS THE INCOMING CHAIR. AND KEN AS THE INCOMING VICE CHAIR, I WILL SECOND. SO RYAN MOVES AND MIKE SECONDS. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY NAY? ALL RIGHT. AND THE MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU ALL FOR THE, UH, NOMINATIONS AND THE RECORDING. MOVE CHAIR. SO AS OF NOW, NOW IT'S OFFICIAL. JUANITA, YOU HAVE BEFORE. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, SO WE'LL MOVE TO, UM, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, RECOMMENDATIONS TO, UM, DISCUSS SUBCOMMITTEES. YES. THAT, THAT, UM, I WILL TAKE THIS. OKAY. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AND THAT JUANITA JUST MENTIONED WAS MAKING SURE THAT WE, UH, HAVE COMMITTEES THAT ARE READY AND WILLING AND ABLE TO DO THE WORK SUBCOMMITTEES. AND RIGHT NOW, THIS YEAR WE'VE HAD AN ACTIVE BANNER COMMITTEE AND AN EVENT, AN ACTIVE EVENT SLASH FUNDRAISING COMMITTEE. UM, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS MAKING SURE THAT WHAT WE DO IS ALIGNED WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND THE DIFFERENT GOALS IN IT. AND ONE OF THOSE, ONE OF THE ISSUES WE HAVE, OF COURSE, IS THE FUNDING FOR THESE THINGS TO HAPPEN. SO THE, MY PROPOSAL IS, DO WE CREATE A SEPARATE STRATEGIC PLAN ALIGNMENT COMMITTEE OR KIND OF PUT THOSE DUTIES IN OUR EVENTS AND FUNDRAISING COMMITTEE? AND REMEMBER, A, A SUBCOMMITTEE CAN COMPRISE NOT ONLY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, BUT VETERANS AT LARGE IN THE COMMUNITY. SO, UM, OKAY, WE NOW HAVE A BANNERS COMMITTEE AND A SPECIAL EVENT SLASH SUB, UH, UH, FUNDRAISING SUBCOMMITTEE. IT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS COME UP, DO WE NEED A THIRD COMMITTEE THAT IS STRICTLY LOOKING AT THE ALIGNMENT OF OUR ACTIVITIES WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN? OR DO WE SAY, HEY, WE ALREADY HAVE AN EVENTS AND, AND, AND, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? FUNDRAISING SUBCOMMITTEE. WE'LL JUST KIND OF ADD TO THEIR LIST THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE, THE ALIGNMENT WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN. KIM, ONE SECOND. I BELIEVE THIS SO HAS A QUESTION AND THEN COME YOU CAN, YEAH. IS THAT, DO YOU, IS THAT, THAT THAT'S, YEAH. AS A STAFF REPORT THERE, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING THE COMMITTEES AND WHAT WE WANNA DO, THAT WE HAVE TO, NOW THAT ANOTHER ONE HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP TO ME AS LIKE, LET'S MAKE THINGS, MAKE SURE THINGS ARE ALIGNED. SO THE POSSIBILITY OF ANOTHER SUBCOMMITTEE, AT SOME POINT WE WOULD HAVE A MOTION SAYING, YES, WE HAVE THIS OTHER COMMITTEE, OR YES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MOTION TO SAY WE'RE ADDING THIS RESPONSIBILITY TO AN EXISTING COMMITTEE. OKAY. I'M JUST MAKING THAT PROPOSAL. OKAY. SYLVIA, YOUR QUESTION? MY QUESTION IS, YOU SAID AS THOUGH BOTH COMMITTEES ARE OPEN TO VETERANS, ONLY VETERANS CAN WORK ON NO, NO, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID. WELL, I MEANT IT'S A, IT'S A EUPHEMISM. IF THERE'S SOMEBODY LIKE YOU WHO IS THE, THE SPOUSE OF A VETERAN WHO WANTS TO BE INVOLVED, THEY WOULD BE MORE THAN WELCOME. EVEN, EVEN NON-FAMILY MEMBER. I MEAN, CAN, IS IT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC IS WHAT I'M ASKING? YES, IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC IF SOMEONE HAS A, A KEEN INTEREST IN HELPING US DO THE WORK THAT WE WANNA DO. SURE. IS THAT ALL FOR YOUR QUESTION, SYLVIA? YES. OKAY, KEN, NEXT? WELL, UM, MINE WOULD BE THAT IT EXPANDS A LITTLE BIT INTO A, UM, REVIEW OF THE, UM, STRATEGIC PLAN. 'CAUSE IT'S LIKE THE LIVING DOCUMENT MM-HMM . AND IT HASN'T HAD A, IT'S HAD A CHANCE TO LIVE AND BREATHE AND DO ITS THING. BUT I THINK NOW IS THE TIME WE SHOULD START LOOKING AT WHAT DOES, DOES IT STILL, DOES EVERYTHING STILL WORK? THAT IT SHOULD BE REVIEWED BY THAT COMMITTEE? OKAY. AND THEN RECOMMENDATIONS BROUGHT BACK TO THE GROUP TO SAY, OKAY, WE THINK THIS STILL WORKS, WORKS. THAT STILL WORKS FOR THE ADD THAT, TUNE IT UP A LITTLE BIT. 'CAUSE I KNOW IT'S A COUPLE YEARS OLD NOW, SO MAYBE THINGS HAVE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT. MM-HMM . SO LIKE, ONE SECOND. UM, JESSE, AND I'LL COME TO YOU. MIKE, GO AHEAD. JESSE HAS A QUESTION. ARE YOU RESPONDING THROUGH? OKAY. UM, ALL RIGHT. SO THE ONLY THING I WAS GONNA SAY, NOT, UH, IT'S JUST THAT THE, THE SPECIAL EVENTS IS THE SUB, THE SPECIAL EVENTS SUBCOMMITTEE. I FEEL LIKE IT'S ALREADY A PRETTY STACKED COMMITTEE. AND WHO'S ON IT? THE BANNER COMMITTEE ALSO. YEAH. WHO IS ON IT? THE SPECIAL, THE SPECIAL EVENT. I HAVE A LIST IN MY COMMITTEE. CANON. WELL, ANYBODY, JUST ONE SECOND. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS ON, UM, GINA'S COMMENT ON THE THIRD COMMITTEE? WELL, ON THE COMMITTEES, SO JUST WANT TO CONFIRM, IT'S ALMOST LIKE QUALITY ASSURANCE, FOR LACK OF BETTER WORDS. AND I'M ASKING, SO SOMEBODY'S GONNA BE, BE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING EVENTS WISE OR BANNER WISE OR WHATEVER IT IS, REALLY COMES BACK TO OUR MISSION. IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS THIRD COMMITTEE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, ALMOST LIKE CHECK CHECKING AND MAKING SURE THAT NOBODY'S [00:25:01] SCREWING AROUND OR, YOU KNOW, DOING SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE OR THAT MAY PUT A BLACK EYE ON THE COMMISSION OR WHATEVER. IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS COMMITTEE IS? I DON'T THINK WE'VE DEFINED IT YET. WHAT I COMPLETELY RIGHT. IT, IT WAS JUST, BUT THAT THE IDEA, IT, IT WAS JUST CAME UP IN, IN MY, MY MEETINGS WITH MY HIGHER UPS OF LIKE, HOW TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE ALIGNED. DO WE NEED TO ESTABLISH THIS? IS THE SUBCOMMITTEE THE WAY TO DO THAT, OR WE JUST NEED TO, YOU KNOW, UH, INTEGRATE INTO WHAT THE COMMITTEE COMMITTEES THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING A, A MORE DEEP REVIEW OF THE START PLAN AND JUST ALIGNING WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH IT. I WAS GONNA SAY IT, IT ALMOST SOUNDS, IF, IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT IS THIS, THE THINGS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON ARE ALIGNED WITH OUR STRATEGIC GOALS, THEN THE CHAIR OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEES SHOULD BE THE ONES TO, TO ENFORCE THAT. OKAY. WELL, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED ANOTHER COMMITTEE JUST TO REVIEW THE COMMITTEES. RIGHT. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONER, SUPERVISOR? SO THE MANAGER, I THINK THAT COMMITTEE'S POINT IS PROBABLY WELL TAKEN BECAUSE IT DOES SEEM THAT WE'VE GOT TWO PRETTY NARROWLY FOCUSED KIND OF COMMITTEE'S GOING RIGHT NOW, BUT I DON'T DISLIKE THE IDEA OF AN ADDITIONAL COMMITTEE. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE, THE NOTION THAT MAYBE THIS, THIS EXTRA COMMITTEE, THIS, THIS REVIEW OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN COMMITTEE, THE IDEA IS TO SUGGEST AND LOOK FOR AVENUES FOR WHICH WE COULD EXPAND KIND OF THE AMBIT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING, RIGHT? MAYBE WE HAVE A COMMITTEE WHO THAT IS, THEIR GOAL IS RIGHT TO REVIEW THE IDEAS IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, LIKE KEN SUGGESTED, MAYBE TO UPDATE THINGS, BUT ALSO TO LOOK FOR NEW PLACES WHERE, HEY, HOW ABOUT WE CAN GET FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE TOGETHER, TOGETHER? WELL NOW WE CAN'T DO FIVE, WE CAN HAVE FOUR PEOPLE, RIGHT? THAT CAN'T BE FORUM. UM, TO, TO DO THIS, TO DO THAT. WE CAN HAVE THIS COMMITTEE USE RECURRING ROLE WOULD BE TO MAKE SUGGESTIONS ABOUT HOW WE CAN MAYBE BOLSTER WHAT WE'RE DOING OR THINGS THAT WE MAY WANT TO LOOK INTO WITH THAT PLAN TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT OUR VISION KIND OF EVOLVES AS THE COMMISSION EVOLVES. I'M JUST GONNA INTERRUPT YOU FOR A MINUTE. THAT COUNCIL MEMBER CHRISTINA DUGGAN HAS JOINED US, SO OH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OH, NO, YOU'RE NOT LATE AT ALL. THE PARTY HASN'T STARTED, SO LET, SO WE'LL, UH, WE'LL SPEED THINGS UP IF ANYBODY WANTS TO PROPOSE THAT THAT YEAH, GO AHEAD. OH, I WAS JUST GONNA ASK IF WE HAD ANY MORE, ANY MORE, UM, UM, QUESTIONS FROM OUR COMMISSIONERS BEFORE. I'LL GO AND THEN WE'LL OPEN UP A PUBLIC PERMIT AND THEN GO AHEAD, SYLVIA. UM, QUESTIONS. SO ONCE YOU DEVELOP THESE COMMITTEES, THEN DEVELOP A GOAL AND A, YOU MIGHT SAY A START TIME AND AN END TIME. BECAUSE WHAT I FEEL IS OUR COMMITTEES KIND OF START AND THEN WE'RE KIND OF LAGGING ON AND GOING ON, AND WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A FINAL, UM, I WANNA GO BACK TO THE, WE, WE HAD AN AD HOC FOR, FOR GEN'S PRIORITIES, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHETHER HAPPENED TO THAT. IT NEVER CAME. UPTOGETHER THERE A COMMITTEE FOR THAT AND THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT KIND OF FIZZLED AWAY. SO YOU START COMMITTEES, BUT COMPLETE THE TASK ASSIGNED TO IT. BUT THANK YOU. UM, I WOULD, UM, BEFORE, UM, I'LL GIVE MY SUGGESTION AND WE'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC COMMENT. UM, I WOULD RECOMMEND, AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE, UM, OUTSIDE OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO REVIEW THAT, BUT ALSO I THINK LOOKING AT SOME OF THE OTHER GOALS, UM, AND DEVELOP A SUBCOMMITTEE TO ADDRESS, BECAUSE THEN IF, SO, IF WE KEEP IT TIED TO THE GOALS, THEN IT IS, UM, DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN. AND THEN, UM, DO WE HAVE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO STICK ON PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS. SHOULD THAT ITEM OKAY WITH THAT? WE'LL, I'M, GO AHEAD. ONE MORE THING. BUT WHY, WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE A SUBCOMMITTEE? LIKE WE CAN'T JUST PUT A LINE ITEM MM-HMM . EVERY DAY AND JUST SAY, LOOK AT IT HOLISTICALLY AS AN ENTIRE GROUP AND BE LIKE ALL BULLET 0.1, BULLET 0.2. HAS THIS BEEN DONE YET? HAVE WE TOUCHED ON THIS? YEAH, WE COULD DO THAT AS A GROUP TOGETHER, RIGHT? IT IS OUR PLAN. OKAY. THAT HE ARE TOGETHER. I HAVE KIND A MOTION TO TABLE THIS UNTIL FEBRUARY'S MEETING. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO, UM, TO MOVE THIS TO, UM, THE AGENDA FOR FEBRUARY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY, UM, JESSE AND, UM, STY SMITTY. SORRY. WHY WE HAVE, AND A SECOND AND A SECOND FOR, UM, AND A SECOND BY RYAN. READING WASN'T A REQUIREMENT. SETTING UP IN THE MARINE CORPS. YEAH. YOU KNOW WHAT? KNOCK IT OFF. I ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY NAYS? ABSTENTIONS. OKAY. SO, AND FROM THAT WE'LL GO ON TO OUR NEXT, [00:30:01] UM, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS PUBLIC COMMENT THAT, UM, MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE VETERAN AFFAIRS COMMISSION OF THINGS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA ITEM. EACH SPEAKER IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES TO MAKE THEIR COMMENTS UNLESS EXTENDED BY THE CHAIR. DO WE HAVE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY. IF WE HAVE NONE. MOVING ON TO, UM, ANNOUNCEMENTS. DO YOU HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? I JUST HAVE ONE. YES. UM, SO FOR THE, THE ELKS CLUB IN GARDEN GROVE IS PUTTING UP A VETERAN STAND DOWN, AND I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THAT IS, BUT, UM, IT'S LIKE A ONE DAY EVENT WHERE VETERANS CAN GO IN THERE, THEY GET FOOD, UH, THEY GET A LOT OF HELP WITH SERVICES. UM, IN THIS CASE THEY'LL GET MENTAL, UH, MENTAL AND DENTAL CARE. UM, AND THEN ANYTHING THAT THEY NEED, THEY CAN JUST APPLY FOR IT ON THE SPOT. AND THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE DAY ONES. THIS ONE'S NOT IT, BUT, UM, WHERE THEY CAN ACTUALLY SLEEP ON, ON THE SPOT. THEY USUALLY HAVE A PLACE TO SHOWER ALSO, SO IT'S MORE GEARED TO LIKE THE HOMELESS VETERAN POPULATION AND STUFF. BUT ANYBODY'S AVAILABLE. SO, UH, THEY'RE THROWING ONE ON FEBRUARY 24TH AT 10 IN THE MORNING. IT'S GONNA, I HAVE A BUNCH OF FLYERS OVER THERE IF YOU GUYS WANT TO TAKE ONE. UM, IT'S COMPLETELY FREE. YOU CAN BRING YOUR, I GUESS YOUR FAMILY ALSO, THEY'LL HAVE FOOD AND STUFF. SO MAYBE YOU CAN GET SOME IDEAS ON, ON HOW THEY RUN. UH, VETERAN STAND DOWN IN CASE WE WANT TO BRING ONE TO THE CITY OF LONG BEACH. THANK YOU. UM, ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? I I DO HAVE ONE AND THEY DIDN'T REALLY HAVE GOOD, UH, A GOOD FLYER. BUT A WEEK FROM TODAY IS MODERN WARRIOR LIVE. IT IS A PLAY, UH, BEING SPONSORED BY MBA AT THE BOB HOPE PATRIOTIC HALL AT 7:00 PM SO IF YOU, IF YOU JUST SIMPLY PUT IN, UM, UH, MODERN WARRIOR LIVE TICKETS ARE FREE FOR VETERANS. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A VERY POWERFUL PLAY, CONTEMPORARY PLAY. SO WHEN DO I, WHERE'S THAT? IT'S AT THE BOB HOPE PATRIARCHIC CALL ON FIGUEROA IN LOS ANGELES. SO WE COULD, I COULD SEND YOU A REMINDER WITH THE WEBSITE AND IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA FOR US TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO CARPOOL OR TAKE THE TRAIN AND GO, BECAUSE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A, A REALLY POWERFUL, UH, PLAY. DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S ABOUT? UM, TO PLAY? IT'S A MESSAGE OF HOPE, RESILIENCE AND POST-TRAUMATIC GROWTH THROUGH STORYTELLING, MUSIC, IMMERSIVE VIDEO, ET CETERA. SO IT'S VETERANS EXPERIENCES? YES. SO MAY I, YES. THE GUY WAS, UH, AT LEAST ONE OF THE HEAD GUYS WITH IT WAS LIKE, UH, ARMY RANGER AND I, WHAT I GATHER IT'S A LOT OF HIS, UH, HE SPOKE TODAY AT THE, UH, LA VETERAN COLLABORATIVE, LIKE VIA ZOOM. HE WAS SPEAKING AND IT APPARENTLY JIM LIKED IT ENOUGH THAT HE WAS LIKE, HEY, HE'S PATRIOTIC CALL AND WE'LL LIKE HELP FUND IT AND STUFF, SO OH, GREAT. YEAH. WONDER? COOL. OKAY, WITH THAT, UM, IF I CAN GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN OUR MEETING, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. I SECOND. SO 5 55. FIVE. FIVE FIVE. LET'S GO WITH THAT. FIVE. FIVE, FIVE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.