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          WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND, 
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UM, CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AND GET STARTED AT FIVE 10. 
          IF I CAN GET A ROLL CALL. 
          SURE. 
          YOU WANT ME TO GET DOWN? YEAH. 
          RYAN. 
          UH, RYAN ANTIS. 
          PRESENT. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER DOPPLE MOORE. 
          PRESENT. 
          COMMISSIONER OSBORNE? HERE. 
          COMMISSIONER SMITH PRESENT. 
          AND THE OTHERS ARE ABSENT OR EXCUSED? YES. 
          EXCUSED ABSENCE? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS ARE EXCUSED. 
          ABSENCE. 
          UM, WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO, UH, SMITTY, IF THE, UH, IF YOU COULD, IF YOU COULD LEAD US IN THE PLEA OF ALLEGIANCE ABSOLUTELY. 
          FLAGS IN THE CORNER, PLEASE REMOVE COVERS IF YOU HAVE ANY. 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE. 
          ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF, OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 
          AMERICA. 
          AND TO THE REPUBLIC. 
          FOR, FOR WHICH IT STANDS INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, AT THIS TIME DO WE HAVE ANY, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE'RE GONNA MOVE PUBLIC COMMENT UP. 
          UM, BEFORE WE GET INTO OUR REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK OR SAY SOMETHING? NO. 
          NO. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? ANY PUBLIC. 
          OKAY. 
          GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          I HAVE IT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND BEFORE, UM, SINCE WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME, IF WE COULD, UM, JUST GO AROUND THE ROOM AND HAVE ALL THE, UM, THE COMMISSIONERS INTRODUCE THEM, GIVE A BRIEF INTRODUCTION, AND, UM, KEN WILL BEGIN WITH YOU. 
          GREAT. 
          KEN OSBORN. 
          I'M DISTRICT THREE AND BEEN HERE A COUPLE YEARS NOW. 
          WHAT BRANCH? YOU'VE BEEN  WHAT, WHAT BRANCH? YEAH. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          UM, THREE OF THEM. 
          MARINE RESERVE NATIONAL ARMY NATIONAL GUARD, AND ARMY RESERVE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AND I WOULD'VE GOT THE OTHER ONES IF I WAS A DOCTOR OR A LAWYER. 
           . 
          FAIR ENOUGH. 
          UH, MY NAME IS JOSH SMITH. 
          I GO BY SMITTY. 
          UM, US ARMY VETERAN DISTRICT FOUR. 
          UH, THIS IS MY EIGHTH YEAR ON, SO I'M TURNING OUT IN JULY. 
          OKAY. 
          RYAN? RYAN S DISTRICT SEVEN. 
          I, UH, BROUGHT MY FRIEND NICK CERAMIC, WHO I'M HOPING, UH, TO GET TO APPLY, TO TAKE OVER WHEN I TERM OUT. 
          UH, NICK'S PREVIOUSLY SERVED ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION HARBOR COMMISSION AND IS CURRENT CHAIR OF THE AMERICAN GOLD STAR. 
          MANNER FORWARD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, JUANITA, DR. MOORE, US ARMY VETERAN, REPRESENTING DISTRICT NINE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN PLEASE GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF. 
          CHRISTINA. 
          HI EVERYONE. 
          UH, CHRISTINA BORAY WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT RESOURCE CONNECTION DIVISION OFFICER, UH, OVERSEEING, UH, OFFICE OF VETERAN SUPPORT AND ALSO A SOCIAL WORKER. 
          UM, ANITA ANI, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY WITH CITY PALM. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME TO SIT AT THE TABLE IF YOU LIKE. 
          AND, AND WHEN YOU PRESENT, I CAN MOVE YOUR SLIDE. 
          YEAH, I GOT NICK'S COAT. 
          JUST RIP IT OFF ON THE GROUND. 
          NICK, ARE YOU A VETERAN? ARMY, ARMY LAWYERS HERE. 
          I DUNNO. 
          YOU'RE BETWEEN TWO LAWYERS. 
          THAT'S A DANGEROUS SPACE. 
          IT IS. 
          SO ALL OF YOU SHARE ARMY? WELL, DEFENDED. 
          EXCEPT FOR, EXCEPT FOR I WAS ARMY. 
          MOSTLY ARMY BECAUSE HE'S RESERVE ARMY RESERVE, MARINE RESERVE, AND ARMY. 
          ARMY, YES. 
          68 7. 
          MIDDLE OF VIETNAM ARMY BEAT NAVY AND FOOTBALL. 
          AND IN BASKETBALL, THAT'S, I POSTED THAT RIGHT. 
          HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THAT. 
          YES. 
          SO, UM, WE'RE GONNA GET INTO OUR, UM, UM, A REGULAR AGENDA ITEM. 
          SO, UM, DO I SAY THIS WHOLE NUMBER HERE OR JUST NUMBER ONE? YOU, YOU JUST SAY THAT ONE. 
          UM, ITEM NUMBER ONE IS RECOMMENDATION TO, UM, APPROVE THE VETERAN AFFAIRS COMMISSION MEETINGS FOR JANUARY, UM, 10TH. 
          CAN I GET A MOTION? SO MOVED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CAN I GET A SECOND? IS THAT GOOD? I WANTED TO START DISCUSSION AFTER THE SECOND. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? GO AHEAD, SMITTY. 
          SO, UM, JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY ON, UH, THE VOTING, THERE'S EIGHT VOTES, BUT ON THE ABSENT IT SAYS LOSARIO SANTIAGO. 
          IS THAT HIS FULL LAST NAME? THAT IS HIS FULL LAST NAME. 
          AND I TRIED, THAT'S ONLY SOMETHING THE CITY CLERK COULD FIX. 
          'CAUSE I, I EMAILED HER YESTERDAY. 
          I SAID, AT THIS POINT IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE HE'S OFF ANYWAY, SO YEAH, SHE, SHE GOT THE CORRECTION AT THE TOP, THE STATIONARY PART, BUT IT, FOR WHATEVER REASON, IT, HE WAS NOT REMOVED FROM THE VOTING. 
          THANKS FOR POINTING. 
          THAT ANSWERED MY QUESTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? UM, DO WE DO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT TOO, OR NO? NO. 
          WE, WE CAN, WE CAN DO PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER EVERY, EVERY ITEM. 
          HEY, UH, IN ADDITION, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANYTHING FROM THE JANUARY MEETING? OKAY. 
          IF THERE'S NONE, WE'LL GO ON TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA. 
          ITEM NUMBER TWO. 
          CAN WE VOTE ON THAT? I'M SORRY, WE TO APPROVE MINUTES. 
          OH, LET'S, UH, LET'S DO A VOTE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY NAYS? ANY ABSTENTIONS? NONE. 
          OKAY. 
          GOING ON TO AGENDA ITEM, OUR 
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REGULAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO. 
          UM, AND THIS IS TO REVIEW THE BROWN ACT AND THE ROBERTS RULES. 
          AND WITH US TODAY, WE HAVE, UM, CITY FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. 
          ANITA? ANI. 
          ANI. 
          YES. 
          SO PLEASE, WHEN YOU'RE READY, WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, PERFECT. 
          SO, UM, TODAY'S PRESENTATION IS ALL ABOUT THE RALPH AND BROWN ACT AND ROBERTS RULES OF ORDER. 
          MY PRESENTATION SEAT HERE. 
          I, I, I APOLOGIZE PROFUSELY, BUT OH, WHEN THEY REDID THIS ROOM, THEY DIDN'T PUT ANY TAPE OVER THE LENS. 
          SO IT'S LITERALLY PAINT ON THE THING. 
          OH, IT'S LITERALLY PAINT. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND YOU, AND YOU HAVE A LIGHT PRESENTATION. 
          SO WE DO HAVE THE HARD COPY. 
          HAVE VERY COPY. 
          I, I, I'M HOPING, HOPING THAT ONE OF THESE GUYS WILL SOMEDAY JUST BRING THE LADDER AND SCRAPE IT OFF, BUT IT JUST HASN'T HAPPENED YET. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          WELL, IS THERE A REMOTE OR SHOULD I JUST DO IT FROM THERE AND CLICK? I CAN DO IT FROM THERE. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT, I DON'T YOU WANT, I DON'T MIND. 
          YOU WANNA TRY THIS BECAUSE I'VE NEVER TRIED THIS. 
          IS IT BE PLUGGED IN? OH, I HAVE THE, OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I CAN GET, YEAH, NOTHING HAPPENS WHEN I, I SAY YOU'D HAVE TO, YOU'D HAVE TO CONTROL YOUR COMPUTER BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT CONTROLS THE OBJECTIONS ON THE SLIDES. 
          YAY. 
          FANTASTIC. 
          I SHOULD PUT THAT ON MY LIST, HUH? MM-HMM . 
          SHE'S BEEN WITH ME SINCE PRE COVID DAYS. 
          OH, NICE. 
          FOUR BY THREE, FOUR MINUTES. 
          16 BY NINE. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          SHOULD SAVED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JUST LEFT AND RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU EVEN, UH, THE MIDDLE AS A BLAZER, LASER POINTER. 
          WOO. 
          YES. 
          THIS IS SO FANCY. 
          MY GOSH. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO I'LL GET STARTED WITH THE BROWN ACT. 
          UM, THE GENERAL PRINCIPLES OF THAT ABOUT THE BROWN ACT ARE THAT ALL CITY, UM, COMMISSION COUNCIL OR COMMITTEE MEETINGS NEED TO BE OPEN AND AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC. 
          UM, EVERY ACTION THAT COMMISSIONERS TAKE, OR ANY DELIBERATIONS THAT YOU MAKE AFTER EVERY, UM, YOU KNOW, ITEM HEARD, HAVE TO BE TAKEN OPENLY. 
          ALL PEOPLE IN THE CITY OR OTHERWISE SHALL BE PERMITTED TO ATTEND AND PARTICIPATE IN ALL THE MEETINGS, WHICH IS WHY YOU HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          AND THEN A SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          EACH TIME THERE'S A PARTICULAR ITEM, UM, ONLY MATTERS ON THE AGENDA CAN BE DISCUSSED. 
          SO, WHO IS SUBJECT TO THE BROWN ACT? UM, YOU ALL HERE TODAY ARE SUBJECT TO THE BROWN ACT, UM, BECAUSE YOU ARE A LEGISLATIVE BODY, AND, UM, SO IS THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          SO ARE OTHER COMMITTEES. 
          UM, AND SOME SUBCOMMITTEES UH, SUBCOMMITTEES ARE SUBJECT TO THE BROWN ACT, UNLESS THEY WERE, UM, UNLESS THEY ARE TEMPORARY AD HOC COMMITTEES, WHICH ARE, UH, SMALLER COMMITTEES WITHIN EACH COMMISSION FOR A LIMITED PURPOSE. 
          SO WHAT COUNTS AS A MEETING? UH, WHEN ARE YOU TECHNICALLY SUBJECT TO THE BROWN ACT? UM, ANY CONGREGATION OF A MAJORITY OF YOU ALL AT THE SAME TIME AND PLACE TO DISCUSS AN ITEM, UH, DELIBERATE AN ITEM OR EVEN HEAR IT, UM, WOULD THEN TRIGGER THE BROWN ACT, WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT YOUR DISCUSSION NEEDS TO HAPPEN OPEN AND PUBLIC. 
          UH, DOES THIS MEAN THAT YOU CAN'T, UM, YOU KNOW, TEXT EACH OTHER OR EMAIL EACH OTHER? UM, TECHNICALLY IF A MAJORITY OF YOU ARE ON THE SAME TEXT MESSAGE STREAM OR THE SAME EMAIL CHAIN AND YOU'RE DISCUSSING, UM, AN ITEM THAT SHOULD BE HEARD AT A MEETING, THEN THAT, ACTUALLY, THAT EMAIL CHAIN THEN COULD BE SUBJECT TO THE BROWN ACT. 
          SO THE BEST THING TO DO IS JUST AVOID ANY MAJORITY TEXT MESSAGE CONVERSATIONS AND EMAIL CHAINS. 
          UM, THIS WOULD ALSO COUNT WHERE, LET'S SAY COMMISSIONER A SENDS AN EMAIL TO COMMISSIONER B, AND THEN COMMISSIONER B IS LIKE, HMM, LET ME TALK TO C ABOUT WHAT A SAID. 
          AND THEN C'S LIKE, OH MY GOSH, I NEED TO CONFER WITH D SO WE CAN ALL VOTE TOGETHER NEXT WEEK. 
          YOU KNOW, NOW YOU HAVE A MAJORITY OUT OF LIKE SEVEN COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING ON AN EMAIL. 
          SO IT'S BEST TO JUST AVOID, AVOID, AVOID, BECAUSE ALSO THOSE COMMUNICATIONS COULD BE SUBJECT TO THE PUBLIC RECORDS ACT. 
          UM, AND SOMETIMES THOSE ARE COMMUNICATIONS THAT YOU WOULD'VE RATHER HAVE KEPT TO YOURSELF AND WAITED TO DELIBERATE IN PERSON AT THE PUBLIC MEETING. 
          SO DOES THIS MEAN YOU ALL CAN NEVER TALK TO EACH OTHER AT ALL DURING YOUR TERM ON THE COMMISSION? UM, SO NO. 
          UH, YOU CAN TALK TO EACH OTHER, UM, 
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YOU KNOW, BUT YOU JUST NEED TO AVOID TALKING ABOUT THE PUBLIC'S BUSINESS UNDER THE VETERANS COMMISSION. 
          SO IF YOU'RE OUT AT A PUBLIC EVENT OR, YOU KNOW, SPEAKING WITH THE PUBLIC AND TALKING TO A REPORTER OR A COLLEAGUE, IT'S COMPLETELY OKAY. 
          JUST, UM, MAKE SURE IT'S NOT ABOUT A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM OR ANOTHER ITEM THAT COULD BE COMING UP AT THE COMMISSION. 
          UM, SO GOING BACK TO THE SAME POINT, YOU KNOW, CONFERENCES, OPEN MEETINGS, SOCIAL EVENTS, THEY'RE ALL OKAY. 
          JUST BE MINDFUL ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          UM, SO THESE ARE JUST SOME GENERAL RULES ABOUT MEETINGS. 
          UH, REGULAR MEETINGS LIKE TODAY, THE AGENDA NEEDED TO HAVE BEEN POSTED 72 HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING. 
          UH, SOMETIMES THERE ARE SPECIAL MEETINGS. 
          THOSE CAN BE CALLED BY THE CHAIR OR A MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSION ON SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN'T WAIT 72 HOURS, UM, TO TALK ABOUT. 
          YOU CAN TALK ABOUT IT AS LONG AS YOU POST AN AGENDA 24 HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING. 
          SO WHAT NEEDS TO GO ON THE AGENDA IN ORDER TO, UM, FOLLOW THE BROWN ACT? THERE NEEDS TO BE A BRIEF, GENERAL DESCRIPTION OF EACH ITEM. 
          UH, WE NEED TO HAVE THE DATE, TIME, LOCATION OF THE MEETING. 
          THIS SECTION IS BASICALLY FOR, YOU KNOW, UM, MAKING SURE THAT THE PUBLIC KNOW WHERE TO COME AND WHAT TIME. 
          AND THEN, UM, THE AGENDA ITEMS NEED TO BE DESCRIPTIVE ENOUGH TO, TO HAVE A SCOPE SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN KNOW, HEY, DO I WANNA ATTEND THIS MEETING OR NOT? AND THEN, UM, THE AGENDA MUST BE POSTED IN A LOCATION FREELY ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC, WHICH NOWADAYS IS, YOU KNOW, FREELY ACCESSIBLE MEANS ONLINE. 
          UM, SO THE CITY'S COMPLIANT WITH THOSE SCHOOLS. 
          SO EVERY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO COMMENT AT THIS COMMISSION MEETING. 
          THEY CAN COMMENT ON NON AGENDA ITEMS, AND THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO COMMENT ON EACH AND EVERY AGENDA ITEM. 
          THE PUBLIC CAN RECORD THE MEETING, VIDEOTAPE AUDIO, TAKE PHOTOS. 
          UM, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO REVIEW THE AGENDAS AND OTHER WRITINGS THAT ARE DISTRIBUTED TO THE COMMISSION MEMBERS. 
          THAT GOES BACK TO LIKE THE EMAILS THAT MIGHT BE EXCHANGED ON PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEMS. UM, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, MAY BE SHARED BY STAFF TO THE COMMISSIONERS. 
          THOSE ARE ALSO SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY TO THE PUBLIC. 
          AND, UM, ANY VOTE THAT YOU TAKE, UM, RELATED TO THIS COMMISSION CANNOT BE MADE IN SECRET. 
          EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE MADE OPEN AND PUBLIC. 
          SO I'M JUST REITERATING OPEN AND PUBLIC. 
          OPEN AND PUBLIC. 
          NOTHING SECRET. 
          . 
          ALRIGHT, SO CLOSED SESSIONS. 
          WHEN CAN YOU MAKE SOMETHING BEHIND, UM, THE PUBLIC STORE? UM, THESE CAN, THESE KINDS OF DISCUSSIONS CAN ONLY HAPPEN FOR THREE PARTICULAR REASONS. 
          ONE IS PENDING LITIGATION. 
          UM, IF THERE'S A PUBLIC EMPLOYMENT ISSUES SUCH AS LIKE DISCIPLINE OR AN APPOINTMENT, OR THERE'S AN ISSUE OF PUBLIC SECURITY. 
          SO WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T FOLLOW THESE RULES? ARE THERE ANY PENALTIES? UM, THERE ARE CIVIL PENALTIES AND CRIMINAL PENALTIES. 
          THE CIVIL ACTION, UM, WOULD BE THAT THE COMMISSIONER WOULD BE LIABLE TO ALL COSTS AND ATTORNEY'S FEES OF THE SUCCESSFUL PARTY'S LAWSUIT. 
          UM, AND THEN CRIMINAL PENALTIES WOULD MEAN IT COULD BE PUNISHABLE UP TO A MISDEMEANOR, UM, AS LONG AS YOU PROVE THAT THE COMMISSIONER INTENDED TO DEPRIVE THE PUBLIC OF INFORMATION. 
          SO IT'S A PRETTY HIGH STANDARD. 
          BUT, UM, SOMETIMES EMAILS, UM, AND TEXT MESSAGES OR, YOU KNOW, HIDING INFORMATION COULD BE CONSIDERED AN INTENT TO DEPRIVE THE PUBLIC FROM INFORMATION. 
          SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION ON THE BROWN ACT NOW. 
          UM, JUST A QUICK LITTLE SUMMARY ABOUT ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER. 
          UM, ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER ARE ESSENTIALLY JUST KIND OF LIKE A HANDBOOK FOR HOW TO CONDUCT BOARD MEETINGS. 
          UM, SOME OF THE PRINCIPLES ARE THAT YOU HAVE FAIRNESS AND COURTESY FOR ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS. 
          UM, YOU ALLOW EACH COMMISSIONER TO PROVIDE INPUT, UM, MAJORITY RULES, AND KIND OF PROVIDE SOME IDEAS FOR HOW TO MAINTAIN ORDER IN THE MEETING IF THINGS GET UNRULY. 
          UM, THERE'S A RULE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULD CONSIDER ONE ITEM AT A TIME, WHICH WE DO HERE AT THE CITY. 
          AND LASTLY, TO ALLOW ALL VIEWPOINTS TO BE HEARD, INCLUDING THE MAJORITY OR THE MINORITY, YOU KNOW, ALL COMMISSIONERS ESSENTIALLY SHOULD BE TREATED COURTEOUSLY, UM, AND CLEARLY. 
          SO I KNOW THIS SLIDE HAS A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT, UM, I'LL JUST QUICKLY GO THROUGH. 
          ESSENTIALLY ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, UM, PROVIDES THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE A FORUM PRESENT FOR ALL FOR YOUR ENTIRE MEETING. 
          THIS MEANS, UM, A MAJORITY, AND THIS IS SUBJECT, UM, YOU KNOW, SAME RULES AS THE BROWN ACT. 
          UM, ANOTHER BASIC PRINCIPLE IS THAT LIKE NO PERSON SHOULD, SHOULD SPEAK UNLESS THEY'RE RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIR. 
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NOW SOME, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS, YOU KNOW, HOW THIS MEETING IS RUN, BUT SOME MEETINGS WHERE THERE ARE A LOT OF COMMISSIONERS, A LOT OF PEOPLE GET REALLY EXCITED ABOUT DISCUSSION AND EVERYONE WANTS TO JUST TALK OVER THE OTHER, AND THEN SOME COMMISSIONERS JUST DON'T GET HEARD. 
          UM, SO IT'S ALWAYS A NICE MOVE OF THEM TO LIKE HAVE THE CHAIR ACKNOWLEDGE, HEY, COMMISSIONER A, YOU CAN SPEAK, UM, PERSONAL REMARKS DURING THE DEBATE ARE NOT ALLOWED. 
          SO KEEP IT TO, YOU KNOW, UM, THE PUBLIC'S BUSINESS AND TRY TO KEEP YOUR PERSONAL REMARKS OR, UM, YOU KNOW, SIDE COMMENTS TO A MINIMUM, ONLY ONE ITEM AT A TIME NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED AND ONLY ONE PERSON MAY HAVE THE FLOOR AT ANY TIME. 
          UH, MAKE SURE WE KEEP ALL, UM, DISCUSSIONS, UH, RELATED TO THE AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE GROUND ACT. 
          AND THEN, UM, THE ONE THING THAT'S INTERESTING IS THAT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING, UM, YOU'RE DELIBERATING ABOUT AN ITEM, ONLY ONE MEMBER SHOULD, HAS THE CHANCE TO SPEAK ONCE. 
          AND THEN I'LL SAY THAT AGAIN. 
          EVERY MEMBER SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ONCE, AND THEN ONLY AFTER EVERYONE HAS SPOKEN ONCE, THEN PEOPLE CAN COME THROUGH WITH COMMENT NUMBER TWO, AND THEN YOU KNOW, THE SAME TOPIC. 
          SO IT'S NOT JUST COMMISSIONER A AND B GOING BACK AND FORTH DEBATING, AND THEN COMMISSIONER C IS WAITING THEIR TURN. 
          UM, OKAY, THAT GOES TO NO CROSS DEBATE SHOULD BE PERMITTED. 
          SO THEN THAT'S HOW THE CHAIR CAN KIND OF, UM, DICTATE THE MEETING AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE'S GETTING AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. 
          AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, ALL SPEAKERS, THAT PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, IT SHOULDN'T TURN INTO LIKE A QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION WITH THE CHAIR AND THE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC. 
          UM, IT SHOULD, UM, YOU KNOW, BE MAINTAINED AT A MINIMUM WHERE THE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IS JUST PROVIDING A COMMENT. 
          AND THEN THE CHAIR AND STAFF CAN GET BACK TO, UM, THE REGULAR MEETING. 
          IF YOU DO WANNA PROVIDE A RESPONSE, IF YOU HAVE A QUICK ANSWER LIKE, HEY, WHEN IS THE NEXT MEETING? SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU CAN ANSWER VERY BRIEFLY. 
          UM, BUT SOMETIMES MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WANNA ENGAGE IN AN ACTUAL CONVERSATION. 
          WE RECOMMEND AVOIDING THAT BECAUSE THOSE COMMENTS MAY NOT BE ON THE AGENDA. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO I THINK THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE, BUT WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE CHAIR? UM, THE ROLE OF THE CHAIR IS TO RUN AN ORDERLY MEETING TO INTRODUCE BUSINESS IN A PROPER ORDER, RECOGNIZE SPEAKERS, DETERMINE DO WE NEED TO DO A MOTION? DO WE NEED A SECOND? UM, KEEP THE DISCUSSION FOCUSED, UM, ENFORCE TIME LIMITS FAIRLY, UH, FOR PUBLIC COMMENTERS AND TO PUT MOTIONS TO A VOTE AND ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS. 
          SO THESE ARE JUST BASIC RULES. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE, FROM MY OBSERVATION OF THE FIRST ITEM ON TODAY'S AGENDA THAT YOU ALL KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE, BUT I'LL GIVE YOU A SUMMARY ANYWAY. 
          UM, ANY COMMISSION MEMBER HAS AN ABILITY TO MAKE A FIRST OR A SECOND ON THE MOTION. 
          AND THE REASON THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE A FIRST OR A SECOND IS SO YOU CAN START TALKING ABOUT IT. 
          UM, BEFORE YOU START TALKING ABOUT IT, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A SECOND. 
          AND THEN AFTER YOUR DELIBERATION, YOU CAN MAKE THE FINAL VOTE. 
          THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION ON THE BROWN ACT AND ROBERTS OF ORDER. 
          SO I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, JOSH, I'M GOOD. 
          NO, NO QUESTIONS. 
          UM, KEN DEALING WITH, UM, AD HOC COMMITTEES, SAY LIKE, YOU'VE GOT AN EVENT, WOULD YOU CREATE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE SO THE EVENT PEOPLE CAN WORK ON THE EVENT OTHER THAN IN PUBLIC NEEDS? BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF COORDINATION THAT HAPPENS. 
          WE MAY BE OFF RATHER THAN CREATING A STANDING COMMITTEE, CREATE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE BECAUSE OF THE RULES ARE DIFFERENT AND THE REQUIREMENTS ARE DIFFERENT. 
          SO WOULD THEY, WOULD THAT JUST BE LIKE THEY WOULD BE DISCUSSING THE EVENT PLANNING VERSUS COMMISSION BUSINESS? WELL, THE COMMISSION HAS SAID WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN EVENT MEMORIAL DAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND NOW WE'RE GONNA CREATE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR THE MEMORIAL DAY PROJECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THOSE PEOPLE WOULD BE WORKING ON IT OUTSIDE THE MEETING. 
          MM-HMM . 
          'CAUSE OF ALL THE DURING TIME, THE TIMELINESS OF THE COORDINATION. 
          CAN I GIVE SOME CONTEXT? YES. 
          SO IN THIS COMMISSION, OUR AD HOC ARE ALWAYS GONNA BE LESS THAN OUR MAJORITY OF MEMBERS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE WERE AT FULL AT NINE MEMBERS, IT WOULD'VE TO BE FOUR PEOPLE OR LESS, RIGHT? SO OUR QUORUM IS 50% PLUS ONE. 
          RIGHT? SO FOR US RIGHT NOW, SINCE WE ONLY HAVE SEVEN FOURTHS ARE MAJORITY NOW MM-HMM . 
          SO AT THAT POINT OUR AD HOC WOULD ONLY HAVE THREE MM-HMM . 
          SO THAT'S JUST THE ONLY CONTEXT I WANT TO ADD IS THAT THE, IT HAS IN AN AD HOC COMMITTEE, DOES IT STILL HAVE TO BE LESS THAN QUORUM? IT HAS TO BE LESS THAN A FORUM. 
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OKAY. 
          THANKS. 
          YES. 
          I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, THAT'S WHAT I WAS, OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSS ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? NO. 
          NONE. 
          I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT. 
          I WANNA THANK YOU FOR BEING SO BRIEF BECAUSE, UH, AT LEAST THREE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE 2017, REVIEWING THIS ALMOST EVERY YEAR IN SOME FORM OR ANOTHER. 
          AND WE HAD PAGES OF ROBERT'S RULES AND MORE ELABORATE LONG PRESENTATIONS. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY I APPRECIATE YOU KEEPING IT BRIEF AND TO THE POINT, AND YOUR SLIDES LOOK GREAT AND IT'S ALL VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK I HOPE IT WASN'T TOO SHORT WHERE WE DIDN'T LEARN ANYTHING. 
          IT WAS JUST VERY NICE OF YOU. 
          WE APPRECIATE. 
          AND THEN NICK, WHO IS A POTENTIAL MEMBER, HE HAS NOT RUN AWAY SCARED. 
          SO , THANKS. 
          I'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS, I'VE BEEN ON TWO COMMISSIONS IN THE PAST, SO I'VE HEARD IT, YOU'VE HEARD IT ALL MANY TIMES YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN THIS PRESENTATION. 
          EXACTLY. 
          , I THINK IT, I THINK THAT KIND OF HELPS TOO, BUT IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE A REFRESHER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. 
          THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND PRESENTING AND GIVING US A BRIEF UPDATE. 
          SO NOW WE'LL GO ON TO, UM, OUR THIRD AGENDA ITEM, UH, WHICH IS TO DISCUSS THE BANNER, THE, UM, THE VETERANS BANNER PILOT PROGRAM. 
          AND, UM, I'M GONNA TURN THIS OVER TO YOU, JOSH SMITTY, TO INTRODUCE AND, UM, THIS PORTION OF THE AGENDA ITEMS. YEAH. 
          SO I'LL STAND UP AND WALK AROUND. 
          I CAN DO THAT. 
          SO WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS FOR US TO CHOOSE FROM. 
          UM, SO WE'VE BEEN ASSIGNED A GRAPHIC DESIGNER WITH THE, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WITH BEEN AMAZING AT, UH, HELPING US PUT TOGETHER SOME EXAMPLES. 
          AND THEY, UM, YOU KNOW, CAME UP WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF EXAMPLES. 
          WE HAVE TWO MAJOR THEMES WITH SEVERAL, UH, VARIETIES IN EACH ONE. 
          UM, BUT WE JUST TOOK ONE OF WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS THE BEST FOR EACH OF THE TWO TYPES. 
          SO WE CAN VOTE ON IT TODAY TO SEE WHAT WE WANT TO DO. 
          SO THIS IS THE FIRST ONE. 
          WHAT ARE WE CALLING THIS ONE? THIS IS THE, THIS THE ARIZONA FLAG OR SUNBEAMS. SO THIS SUNBEAMS, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. 
          SUN KIND OF REMINDED ME A LITTLE BIT OF LIKE THE ARIZONA STATE FLAG, BUT WHEN WE ADDED THE STARS TO IT, IT MADE THINGS DIFFERENT. 
          UH, THE BIG THING TO NOTICE IS WE HAVE THE TWO LINES FOR THE NAME, SO THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE LARGER NAMES IF WE NEED TO. 
          AND THEN A SINGLE LINE FOR YOUR BRANCH. 
          UM, SO THIS IS THE FIRST ONE. 
          AND IF YOU GUYS WANNA SEE IT ON PAPER, THEY'RE ON PAPER AS WELL TOO. 
          YOU CAN PASS THOSE AROUND. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO THIS IS THE SECOND ONE WHERE YOU HAVE MORE OF A FLAG BACKGROUND INSTEAD OF THE, THE, THE SUNBEAMS. UM, SAME THING, RIGHT? SO TWO LINES FOR YOUR NAME, SINGLE LINE FOR THE BRANCH. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE THE SCARS TO SEPARATE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH AND THE BRANCH. 
          UM, THEY'RE BOTH GONNA SAY WE PROUDLY HONOR, IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT THEME. 
          SO I GUESS I'LL OPEN IT UP TO VOTE AT THIS POINT, OR LET ME OPEN IT UP TO DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT. 
          WHAT DO YOU GUYS LIKE? ANY QUESTIONS, RYAN? NO, I, I MEAN I'VE, I'VE GOT MY PREFERENCE, BUT YOU KNOW, I WORK, I, I SHOULD SAY, LET ME TURN IT TO KIM FOR QUESTIONS, BECAUSE HE WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT WASN'T IN OUR ADD ON COMMITTEE. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY. 
          THAT'S ALL ON LONG. 
          YOU CAN HAVE THE MOST VALUABLE INPUT. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'RE LOOKING FOR YOUR OPINION ON THIS. 
          SO WHAT DO YOU THINK? I THINK BOTH LOOK GREAT. 
          YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB. 
          OKAY. 
          I, I WISH YOU COULD THINK OF QR CODE ON THERE SOMEWHERE, BUT, WELL, WE UNBALANCED ON DON'T JUST IMAGINE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE 36 BY 96. 
          AND SO A QR CODE, HOW DO YOU, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU THEY DON'T, THEY PEOPLE DO THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT A SAFETY ISSUE. 
          OKAY. 
          PEOPLE TRY TO DRIVE AND SCAN IT. 
          THAT'S COOL. 
          SO PROBLEM. 
          THAT'S WHY WE HAVE, UH, THE WEBSITE HERE, LONG BEACH DO GOV SLASH RE INSTEAD OF HAVING THE QR. 
          I AGREE WITH YOU. 
          AND I WOULD PUSH FOR THAT, BUT I GOT TOLD WE CAN'T DO IT OR SHOULDN'T, I'M NOT VERY, I SHOULD SAY WE SHOULDN'T DO IT, IS WHAT WE WERE TOLD. 
          SO I GET IT. 
          IT'S NOT A BIGGIE. 
          SO WHAT'S THE NAME ON THE SECOND ONE? THE FIRST ONE IS, UH, WELL IT'S ALL THE SAME. 
          IT DOESN'T BUT WAS LIKE SUN. 
          WHAT? THAT WAS THE SUN BEAM. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT ONE IS, HERE'S THE PICTURE. 
          SUN BEAN FLAG AND FLAG. 
          OH, SUN BEING AND FIVE. 
          OKAY. 
          GOT IT. 
          SO THE QUESTION IS, IS WE HAVE TO VOTE ON WHICH ONE WE LIKE THE BEST. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT ON WHICH ONE PUSH FORWARD. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO ARE WE READY? IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR ARE WE READY TO VOTE? READY TO VOTE? WE HAVE TO MOTION MOTION. 
          I, YEAH. 
          WELL, SO I GUESS THAT WE CAN HAVE, WELL, YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          I WANNA MAKE A LITTLE COMMENT AND THAT IS, UM, I DID HAVE THE PAO, WHICH IS A PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICER, AFFAIRS OFFICER FOR THIS, FOR OUR DEPARTMENT. 
          UH, GIVE SOME FEEDBACK. 
          THEY WEREN'T CRAZY ABOUT THE GOLD, BUT I SAID THAT THIS IS JUST IN CANVA, MEANING PROBABLY THE FILE WILL BE AN ILLUSTRATOR, BUT I EXPLAINED THAT THE GOLD IS LIKE THE NEUTRAL COLOR FOR ALL THE SERVICE BRANCHES. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND SHE THOUGHT IT LOOKED A LITTLE ORANGE, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S THE DIGITAL TRANSLATION. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND WHEN WE SPEAK WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE BANNER 
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COMPANY OR WHATEVER, I'M SURE IT'LL HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET APPROVED FROM THEM. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO THAT'S JUST ONE COMMENT. 
          AND UH, ORIGINALLY SHE, THE QUESTION WAS WHY DO WE, WHY DOES IT NOT SAY LONG BEACH HEALTH DEPARTMENT? BECAUSE THAT'S, THE MONEY CAME FROM THE CITY OF LONG BEACH AND WE'RE TRYING TO BE ONE, YOU KNOW, ONE LONG BEACH, SO TO SPEAK. 
          SO J JUST RANDOM AND WHAT YOU CAN'T SEE VERY WELL, UM, WE HAVE BLAZER POINTERS SOMEWHERE. 
          WHERE DID THE THING GO? YEAH. 
          IS THAT THERE IS A VERY LIGHT BACKGROUND OF STARS BEHIND THIS, SO OH. 
          BEHIND THE, WE PROUDLY HONOR. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S TRANSPARENT. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I LIKE THE TOUCH OF THE, UM, THE, THE GOAL FOR CHART IN THE CORNER AND THE, UM, HOW WE SEPARATED OUT THE, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT UP THERE, BUT ON DOWN HERE, ON THE PRINT, HOW IT HAS THE, THE STARS THAT ARE AROUND THE TOP, IT KIND OF, UH, CREATES A, UH, A FRAME. 
          YEAH. 
          AROUND WE, WE PROUDLY HONOR. 
          BEFORE WE MOVE ON, CHRISTINA, NICK, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? I'M CURIOUS. 
          I'M FORCING PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          , I APOLOGIZE. 
          UH, WELL, I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF SEEING THESE AHEAD OF YOU ALL OR AS YOU'VE JUST BEEN DESIGNING THEM. 
          UM, SO I ALSO HAVE MY FAVORITE OF THE FEW. 
          AND I THINK THEY BOTH CAME OUT REALLY NICE AND THIS IS REALLY EXCITING, UM, TO GET THESE UP AND, UM, YEAH, I'M EXCITED FOR YOU ALL. 
          THIS IS FUN. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THIS IS, THIS IS MY FIRST LOOK AT 'EM, BUT I ACTUALLY LIKE THE OTHER, THIS THIS ONE, THE ONE WHERE THE PICTURE'S BIGGER THE PICTURE OF YEAH. 
          WITH THE FLAG IN THE BACKGROUND. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THIS IS MY FAVORITE VERSION AS WELL. 
          SAME. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          BUT THEY'RE BOTH GREAT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YOU GUYS DID IT. 
          FANTASTIC. 
          SO SOMEONE WANNA MAKE A MOTION? READY? YEAH, I'LL MOVE THAT. 
          UH, WE CALL THE VOTE ON THE PROPOSED BANNER OPTIONS. 
          WHAT ARE WE CALLING IT? VOTE. 
          WHY DON'T WE JUST MAKE MOTION TO VOTE? OH, TO SELECT ONE? YES. 
          YEAH, I VOTE THAT WE SELECT ONE OF THE TWO BANNER OPTIONS. 
          SUNBEAM. 
          AND WHICH ONE? WHICH BANNER AUCTION? I'M VOTING FOR THE FLAG ONE. 
          THAT'S UP ON THE FLASH. 
          WAIT, CAN WE AND WE GET A SECOND ON THIS SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IT'S A BETTER WAY TO HANDLE THIS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU ONLY VOTE? YEAH, YOU COULD DISCUSS. 
          WELL, IF IT SUR PASSES, IT'S DONE. 
          RIGHT? BECAUSE IT'S US. 
          IS IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON IT? NO. 
          ARE WE READY TO VOTE? YEP. 
          OR IS THERE A SECOND? WHO WAS THE SECOND? OR NO, KEN WAS. 
          OKAY. 
          FIRST IS RYAN SECOND? YEAH. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY NAYS? NO. 
          ABSTENTIONS. 
          DONE. 
          DONE. 
          OKAY, MR. WOWZA. 
          SO NEXT IS YOUR MAYOR. 
          WE MADE A D WORD. 
          WE'RE WORKING ON IT. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. 
          SO NEXT WE'RE GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COMPANY THAT WE'RE GOING TO SELECT FOR PRINTING IT. 
          SO WE, UH, I BELIEVE, UH, GINA SENT OUT THE INVOICE FOR A THREE GRAPHICS, UH, LIKE AN HOUR AFTER SHE SENT THAT OUT. 
          ANOTHER COMPANY SENT THEIR ESTIMATE. 
          UM, BUT THAT ONE CAME OUT A LOT MORE THAN A THREE. 
          UM, WHEN YOU COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES. 
          'CAUSE THE BIG THING THAT WE'VE LEARNED WHILE DOING THIS PROCESS IS NOT EVERYBODY WILL INCLUDE ALL THE PRICES UP FRONT. 
          AND THEY'LL SAY DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, LIKE, OH, SHIPPING TO RETURN IT IS TVD, OH, UM, INSTALLATION IS, OR REPAIR IS GONNA COST THIS MUCH OR WHATEVER. 
          SO, UM, A THREE WAS PUTTING, WHEN YOU LINE ITEM IT BY LINE WENT ALL THROUGH A THREE, WAS THE CHEAPEST ONE. 
          AND, AND THIS IS, I'M SORRY. 
          SO I WAS GONNA SAY IS THEY, UH, ACCORDING TO GINA'S, THEY DO 90% OR SO OF ALL THE BANNERS OUT OF THE CITY AS WELL. 
          AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHY I'M GUESSING. 
          YEP. 
          UM, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? CAN WE CHANGE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. 
          UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY. 
          YEAH. 
          SINCE THE BALANCE IN THE TOTAL CAME OUT TO LIKE 8,000 AND CHANGE A LITTLE OVER 8,000, COULD WE BUMP THE QUANTITY TO 30? BECAUSE THAT WOULD BREAK US ALMOST USING ALL 10,000. 
          I HATE TO GIVE BACK MONEY. 
          UM, DO YOU WANT ME TO SUM DO THE SUMMARY? 'CAUSE I HAVE A SUMMARY OF PER BANNER? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THE, THE DIRECT COSTS FOR THE BANNERS, THAT'S PRINTING, INSTALLATION, REMOVAL, RETURN DELIVERY AND HARDWARE IS $232 AND 50 CENTS PER BANNER. 
          THOSE, THOSE DIRECT COSTS ADD UP TO $5,812 50 CENTS. 
          THE INDIRECT ARE THE TAX, THE REPLACEMENT, THE CREATIVE DESIGN FEES, THE ROUTINE MAINTENANCE, THAT'S ANOTHER 2000 2, 17, 18. 
          SO THAT IS A TOTAL OF $8,029 AND 68 CENTS. 
          WHAT THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE IS THE PERMIT, WHICH IS $306. 
          ANY POSTCARDS WE WANNA PRINT, IF WE WANT TO DO A RIBBON CUTTING OF, OF SOME SORT OF A PRESS KIT THAT'S IN-HOUSE PRINTING, LIKE WE'RE 
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GONNA HAVE EACH PERSON THAT SUBMITS IS GONNA SUBMIT A BIO. 
          SO WE'LL, WE'LL PACKAGE ALL THAT AND PUT IT ON THE WEBSITE. 
          AND I AM STILL A BELIEVER IN HAVING PAPER FOR THE MEDIA BECAUSE WE JUST WENT THROUGH AN EXPERIENCE WITH VETERANS DAY WHERE I HAD PACKETS. 
          I, I OFFERED SOMEBODY ONE, AND THEN THEY, WHEN THE ARTICLE CAME OUT AND THE PAPER, THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, WE HAD TO LOOK UP THIS INFORMATION ON THE INTERNET WHEN I TRIED TO HAND IT TO THEM. 
          SO, UM, AND POSTCARDS, LIKE, WE HAVE A THOUSAND POSTCARDS PRINTED. 
          SO THOSE ROUGH COSTS, NOT ALL INC. 
          INCLUSIVE ARE ABOUT $600. 
          AND SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO START WITH 25 BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE OTHER EXPENDITURES INVOLVED. 
          AND THEN THE AREA THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, WHICH IS, UM, CARSON, CARSON E EAST OF, IT'S BETWEEN CLARK AND BELLFLOWER. 
          ON CARSON, THERE'S ABOUT 20 POLES AND ABOUT TWO OF THEM MIGHT BE OBSCURED BY TREES. 
          AND TREES WILL NOT BE CUT BY PUBLIC WORKS UNLESS YOU DO SOME SORT OF ACT OF GOD. 
          YEAH. 
          BASICALLY , IT STARTS RAINING THIS WEEK AND SOMEBODY JUST A SWING ON 'EM. 
          ACTIVE CHAINSAW. 
          SO, SO, UM, WHATEVER YOU DECIDE IS, IS, IS WHAT YOU DECIDE. 
          BUT JUST FACTORING IN, WE STILL HAVE ABOUT A, A LITTLE LESS THAN $2,000 TO WORK WITH FOR ANCILLARY EXPENSES. 
          NO, THAT'S FINE. 
          MARKETING, THE MARKETING IDEA, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF LAUNCH OR, BUT WELL CORRECT. 
          I'M NOT A BIG POSTCARD FAN AFTER LAST TIME, SO NOT THAT THEY DIDN'T DO A GOOD JOB. 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT SOON TOO. 
          SO, UM, DO YOU GUYS WANT TO GO LINE BY LINE WHAT THE COSTS ARE OR ARE YOU GUYS GOOD? WE'RE GOOD? NO, I'M, I'M GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          NO OTHER DISCUSSION. 
          ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS AT ALL? OKAY. 
          NONE. 
          UM, I MAKE A MOTION. 
          MOTION TO APPROVE A THREE AS OUR BANNER PRINTER. 
          SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          WAIT, I, SO JOSH, UM, SO JOSH, YEAH. 
          MAKING A MOTION TO AND AND RYAN. 
          A THREE. 
          YEP. 
          RYAN. 
          SECONDS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ANY DISCUSSION? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. 
          UM, ROLL CALL, VOTE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR A AYE NO NAYS. 
          NO ABSTENTION. 
          NO ABSTENTIONS. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU HAD ANY COMMENT BECAUSE YOU HAVE DONE A BANNER PROCESS BEFORE YOU WORKED WITH A THREE, BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOOD. 
          YEAH, NO, THEY'RE A GREAT COMPANY TO WORK WITH AND YOU HAVE, UH, INCIDENTALS SET ASIDE. 
          'CAUSE WE DID, WE HAD OUR MENTAL HEALTH MATTERS AWARENESS CAMPAIGN UP, UH, IN SEVERAL, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS IN LONG BEACH AND THEY WERE UP FOR ABOUT 60 DAYS AND WE HAD FIVE THAT WE HAD TO REPLACE. 
          AND YOU ARE ONCE WITH A PERMIT, YOU HAVE TO REPLACE 'EM. 
          SO THAT WAS THE COST THAT WE DIDN'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. 
          SO IT'S A GOOD IDEA THAT YOU HAVE SOME SET ASIDE. 
          SMART. 
          SO LESSON LEARNED, . 
          WOW. 
          WELL, AND I THINK THE INSURANCE THAT THEY HAVE IS WE GET ONE FREE REPLACEMENT PER BANNER, OBVIOUSLY FOR DAMAGES, RIGHT? NO. 
          IS THAT THE COST THEY GAVE, THEY GAVE US AN ESTIMATE JUST FOR THE COST OF REPLACING TWO AS A SAMPLE. 
          YOU GET ONE AT A, AT A HIGHER PRICE AND THEN EVERYONE THEREAFTER IS A LOWER PRICE. 
          THEY DON'T LIKE TO ONLY HAVE TO PRINT ONE BANNER BASICALLY. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          COOL. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE OUR APPLICATION TOOL. 
          UM, SO GINA PUT TOGETHER THIS, UH, GOOGLE FORMS, UM, WHERE WE ALLOW, HAVE PEOPLE WHERE WE'RE GONNA SEND PEOPLE TO SUBMIT THEIR NOMINATION TO FOR THEIR, THEIR PERSON. 
          UM, SO PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. 
          THE THE NAME OF THE HONOREE, UH, ARE YOU NOMINATING YOURSELF? AND SO THE NOMINATING YOURSELF ISN'T A BRANCHING ONE. 
          SO IF THEY DO NOMINATE THEMSELVES, THEY'RE GONNA SKIP THE CONTACT NAME AND PHONE NUMBER BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT ALREADY BECAUSE IT'S LISTED ABOVE. 
          RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          SO THEN IF THEY'RE NOT NOMINATING THEMSELVES AND THEY GO TO CONTACT NAME, YOU KNOW, RELATIONSHIP TO THE VETERAN, UH, EMAIL ADDRESS, I BELIEVE, UM, HOW THEY'RE RELATED TO THE VETERAN, IS THAT ON THE TWICE? WHAT'S FOUR AND FIVE? GO BACK UP GINA. 
          WE HAVE HOLD ON. 
          GO BACK DOWN TO FOUR. 
          ONE NAME AS YOU WOULD LIKE TO APPEAR. 
          YEP. 
          SORRY. 
          NOMINATING YOURSELF. 
          SO WE HAVE CONTACTS, RELATIONSHIP AND THEN CONTACTS, RELATIONSHIPS. 
          WE NEED TO DELETE THAT FOUR, THE TOP ONE TWICE. 
          OKAY. 
          GOT IT. 
          GOOD CATCH. 
          UM, SO THEN BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS NOT HAVE PEOPLE TYPE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. 
          WE WANT THEM TO SELECT. 
          SO I WOULD DO, I'M SORRY. 
          I WOULD DO THE ONE ABOVE BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE BULLETS BELOW IT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I THINK THAT WAS THREE OR WHATEVER. 
          FOUR. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT WAS FOUR? OKAY. 
          UM, YEAH, PHONE NUMBER AND THEN EMAIL ADDRESS. 
          SO THAT'S ALL SKIPPED BY. 
          SO THE PHONE AND EMAIL ADDRESS IS WHERE THEY START FOR THE VETERAN IF THEY'RE DOING THEMSELVES. 
          SO WE HAVE A WAY TO CONTACT THEM. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THEN WE GO DOWN TO THEIR BRANCH OF SERVICE. 
          AND THAT'S IN ORDER. 
          YOU GUYS ARE WONDERING. 
          'CAUSE THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO ME. 
          SO I PUT UP IN ORDER, AS IN THE FOUNDING OF THE NAVY, GOES BACK TO 1775. 
          OH, WHAT'S THE ORDER? THE ARMY STILL IN? OH, HE PUT THE ARMY UP. 
          IT'S THE ORDER OF IMPORTANCE. 
          IT'S, 
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YEAH, THAT'S HOW, THAT'S ALWAYS HOW IT GOES. 
          I'LL DOUBLE CHECK ON THIS. 
          IT'S ALL ARMY HERE. 
          IT'S . 
          THAT'S, NOBODY'S GONNA CALL US ON THAT. 
          NO. 
          UM, SO THEN WE HAVE, UH, THE DATES OF SERVICE AND THIS IS JUST FOR LIKE US INTERNAL, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT GONNA USE ANY OF THAT. 
          UM, BUT, SO THIS IS THE BIO THAT WE AS A COMMISSION ARE GONNA USE TO EVALUATE THE CONTESTED, NOT CONTESTED THE APPLICANTS. 
          UM, RIGHT. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE THE NEXT SECTION HERE IS THE BIO, THE HONOREE. 
          THAT WOULD BE IDEALLY ON THE WEBSITE THAT WHEN PEOPLE GO THERE THEY CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT THE VETERAN THEMSELVES, KEEP GOING DOWN. 
          AND THEN, UM, BASICALLY THE, THE ONE CAVEAT IS GOOGLE FORM DOESN'T ALLOW YOU TO UPLOAD A PHOTO. 
          SO WE ARE ASKING THEM TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY HAVE TO SEND THE HIGH QUALITY PHOTO TO AN EMAIL ADDRESS. 
          SO IF THEY, IN THIS, IT DOES SAY THAT IF THEY DON'T SUBMIT THE PHOTO, THEN IT'S, THAT PACKET IS NOT COMPLETE AND THEREFORE NOT, UM, WHAT'S THE RIGHT WORD FOR THAT? WELL, SAY AGAIN. 
          CAN'T THEY'RE OUTTA THE RUNNING. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY'RE OUTTA THE RUNNING BASICALLY. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, CALL ATTENTION TO THAT FIRST PARAGRAPH. 
          YOU GUYS WORKED HARD ON THAT AND KEN'S A QUESTION BEFORE WE YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          I WOULD SAY I LIKE THE IDEA OF NOT HAVING A PHOTOGRAPH UNTIL WE CHOOSE, BECAUSE THEN WE CAN'T BE ACCUSED BIASED OF BIAS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YOU'LL HAVE NA OF, THERE'LL BE SOME IMPLICIT NAME BIAS, BUT IF YOU HAVE PICTURES, SO IT COULD SAY, WELL YOU CHOSE X BECAUSE YOU LOOK AT, IT'S LIKE WE DO HERE WITH RESUMES. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE PICTURES WITH YOUR RESUME IN THE US SO YOU CAN'T SEE WHAT THE PERSON LOOKS LIKE. 
          AND YOU MIGHT, THEY WOULD SOMEBODY MAKE A BS ACCUSATION THAT SAYS YOU DID IT? BECAUSE, SO I THINK I'M SAYING I'M, I'M SORRY, JUST TO CLARIFY WHAT PICTURE, THE PHOTOGRAPH THEY'RE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. 
          LIKE, LIKE YOU HAVE TO SUBMIT IT, BUT WE SHOULD SEPARATE 'EM. 
          LIKE THE COMPLETE PACKAGE MEANS THEY'VE SUBMITTED A PHOTO, BUT WHEN WE'RE, WHEN YOU GUYS ARE ACTUALLY DECIDING, YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE PHOTOS. 
          THAT'S SMART. 
          AND THAT'S FINE. 
          THAT JUST KEEPS IT, THE GOOD NEWS IS THEY'RE ALREADY SEPARATE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ATTACHED TO ONE ANOTHER. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO WHEN WE, UH, TAKE THIS, UH, RESULTS AND EXPORT 'EM TO EXCEL, THE PHOTO WON'T BE IN THERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO WE CAN PROVIDE THE EXCEL TO US TO REVIEW AND APPROVE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN ONCE WE GIVE OUR APPROVALS, THEN GINA WILL MATCH THE PHOTO WITH THE APPLICANT. 
          THAT'S COOL. 
          DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU? IT JUST HELPS FOR, YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          RELATE THAT FIRST PARAGRAPH THOUGH, YOU GUYS DID REALLY WORK HARD ON THAT. 
          UH, . 
          SO YEAH. 
          SO WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE, WHAT OUR EXPECTATION IS, RIGHT? SO WE WANT, UH, WHAT'S CALLED A ONE QUARTER HEADSHOT, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD TO YOUR CHEST. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, IT COULD BE BLACK AND WHITE OR IN COLOR, THAT'S FINE. 
          BUT THE BIG THING IS, IS NO WEAPONS, NO COMBATS UNIFORM, UH, IS ACCEPTABLE. 
          IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, IT COULD BE IN SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS. 
          UM, THE BIG THING AS WELL TOO IS WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY OWN THE RIGHTS TO THIS PHOTO OR EITHER OWN THE PHOTO OR HAVE THE RIGHTS TO GIVE US PERMISSION TO USE THE PHOTO. 
          SO YOU'D HAVE A CLICK OF AN I ATTEST THAT I HAVE. 
          YEAH, I HONOR HAVE THE RIGHTS. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS. 
          IF, IF WE COULD GO BACK, UM, I'M, IF I COULD JUST REAL QUICK, SO I'M GOING BACK UP TO THE BRANCH, THE, UM, THE BRANCH OF SERVICE. 
          UH, DO WE HAVE THE, DO WE HAVE, UM, RESERVE? NO. 
          TOO FAR. 
          TOO FAR? YEAH. 
          RESERVES NOT RESERVIST? NO, NOT A BRANCH. 
          IT'S NOT A BRANCH. 
          NOPE. 
          NO. 
          THEY FALL UNDER THE COMMAND OF ONE OF THOSE. 
          SO YEAH, RESERVIST WOULD BE ARMY RESERVE, ARMY RESERVE, ARMY AIR FORCE RESERVE, ARMY RESERVE. 
          AND THEN YOU HAVE ARMY NATIONAL GUARD, WHICH WOULD BE ARMY. 
          ARMY. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND, AND SHOULD WE, SHOULD WE ADD OTHER OR NOT? I, I, I THINK I'M JUST SAYING, SHOULD WE ADD, LIKE MAYBE DO OTHER LIKE RESERVE AND THEN THEY CAN ADD IT, BUT IT'S NOT A BRANCH. 
          WE'RE ONLY DOING BRANCHES. 
          YOU KNOW, WE COULD, WE COULD PUT ON THE FAQS. 
          'CAUSE WE'RE NOT SHOWING THE FAQS HERE. 
          THERE, THERE WILL BE AN FAQ AND I CAN SHOW THAT TO YOU REALLY QUICK. 
          WHAT WE'RE THINKING OF THE TEXT BEING, WE COULD SAY, WE COULD JUST GIVE A LITTLE IN INFORMATION THAT GIVES THE BRANCHES THEN WHAT'S UNDERNEATH THEM. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND THE REASON WHY I AM, THE REASON WHY I'M SAYING THAT IS BECAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T WANT SOMEONE THAT'S LIKE SAY LIKE AN ACTIVE DUTY RESERVIST TO FEEL THAT YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE NOT ELIGIBLE. 
          THAT WAS THE ONLY THING I WAS THINKING ABOUT. 
          NO, I HEAR YOU. 
          SO, I MEAN, I WAS A RESERVIST. 
          I DID SIX YEARS RESERVE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT'S, I MEAN, OF WHICH 18 MONTHS WAS ACTIVE DUTY. 
          BUT I, I GET YOU, I HEAR YOU THAT THERE'S A LOT OF RESERVISTS DON'T FEEL THAT THEY QUALIFY FOR THIS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND MAYBE WE CAN PUT IN SOMETHING IN PARAGRAPHS SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          YEAH. 
          FAQS WOULD BE A GOOD SPOT AS WELL FOR THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT AS FAR, YOU GOTTA REMEMBER, THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON THE ONE LINE ON THE BANNER, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I I I WAS JUST THINKING LIKE, 'CAUSE HERE IN OUR, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF ACTIVE DUTY RESERVE IN, YOU KNOW, IN THIS AREA. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THERE'S, YEAH. 
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THE BIG THING IS, IS WE'RE NOT VETTING YEAH. 
          WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR PROOF OF SERVICE. 
          WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          THAT ONE QUESTION I WAS TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE RANK AND WHAT THE WAS, THAT'S LITERALLY THE ONE QUESTION THAT WE'RE GONNA USE TO BET, RIGHT? SO WE'RE GONNA KNOW WHETHER OR NOT, IF THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ACCURATE BASED OFF OF OUR PAST EXPERIENCE. 
          SO ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER, UM, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS WE CAN'T HAVE? YES. 
          PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT TO GINA. 
          WHAT, WHAT IS THE CITY'S POLICY ON EMAIL ADDRESS? YOU KNOW, GOLD START MATTER. 
          WE HAVE ALMOST 350 PEOPLE IN THERE. 
          I'LL GUARANTEE YOU SOME OF THEM DO NOT HAVE EMAIL ADDRESSES. 
          WELL, SO WE ARE GONNA HAVE HARD APPLICATIONS THAT WE WILL HAVE AVAILABLE. 
          UM, AND THAT, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GETTING TO IN THE CALENDAR SECTION, THAT THAT'S A LINE ITEM. 
          I ALSO WAS SUPPOSED TO GIVE MY REPORT, I'M SORRY, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE, THE PARAMETERS OF THIS NEW, UH, ONE MEETING AGENDA. 
          SO WE USED TO SEPARATE OUT COORDINATORS REPORT, CHAIR REPORT, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, ET CETERA. 
          SO WE KIND OF SKIPPED A COUPLE THINGS, BUT WE ARE HAVING, UM, THE MILITARY VETERANS AFFAIRS OF THE COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES IS GOING TO HAVE ITS, UH, UH, VETERAN TOWN HALL AT AMERICAN GOLD STAR MANOR ON MARCH 13TH. 
          SO WE WILL HAVE HARD APPLICATIONS THERE FOR PEOPLE TO PICK UP. 
          AND IF THEY WANNA CALL ME AND HAVE 'EM FILL IT OUT, I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHAT THE CITY'S POLICY IS ON THAT. 
          'CAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE WITHOUT EMAIL ADDRESSES. 
          YEAH. 
          IF THAT'S YOUR ONLY CONTACT OTHER THAN A PHONE. 
          SO, AND, AND THAT'S SOUNDED, UH, YEAH. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO WE CAN DO EITHER OR THE PHONE OR EMAIL ADDRESS. 
          GOOD. 
          AND THE EMAIL ADDRESS IS NOT REQUIRED. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST WANNA DOUBLE CHECK. 
          RIGHT. 
          THERE ARE, THERE ARE DEFINITELY WAYS WE'LL PUT POSTCARDS OUT. 
          WE'LL PUT HARD COPIES OUT. 
          WE'LL EMAIL THE PACK. 
          YOU KNOW, THE, THE, IF SOMEBODY HAS, I MEAN, DOESN'T HAVE AN EMAIL ADDRESS, THEY CAN CALL ME. 
          I'D FILL OUT THE APPLICATION WITH THEM KIND OF THING. 
          WE DEFINITELY WANNA, DON'T WANNA BE EXCLUSIVE. 
          SO WHAT WE COULD AS WHO QUALIFIES FOR THE BANNER THAT WE'LL HAVE ON THE WEBSITE, A VETERAN WITH A CONNECTION TO LONG BEACH PAST OR PRESENT, MEANING IT COULD BE SOMEONE DECEASED AND WE'RE NOT DOING IN HONOR OF, BUT DEFINED AS A VETERAN, BORN OR RAISED IN LONG BEACH, A VETERAN EDUCATED IN LONG BEACH, A VETERAN WHO RESIDES IN LONG BEACH, A VETERAN WHO WORKS IN LONG BEACH, A VETERAN WHO WAS STATIONED AT OR WORKED AT THE LONG BEACH NAVAL STATION OR SHIPYARD. 
          AND THEN I JUST HAVE SOME EXPLANATION. 
          THE FORMAL, UH, LONG BEACH NAVAL COMPLEX CLOSED IN 1997, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. 
          SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO OPEN THIS TO EVERY ANYONE WITH A CONNECTION TO LONG BEACH. 
          SO IF, IF SMITTY DECIDES YOU DIDN'T YOUR GRANDPA GET STATIONED AT, AT, YEAH, HE WAS STATIONED HERE IN LONG BEACH WHEN HE WAS FOR WORLD WAR II. 
          SO HE DEPLOYED OUTTA HERE. 
          SO IF WE, SO IF WE COULD, GOING BACK TO, SO COULD WE ADD THE, SOMETHING LIKE WHO QUALIFIES? COULD WE ADD LIKE SOMETHING FOR LIKE THE RESERVIST THERE AS WELL? JUST SO IT, SO THAT, SO THEY DON'T WELL, I THINK WE'LL JUST PUT THE, A LITTLE FACT THINGS WITH THOSE BRANCHES AND WHAT'S UNDERNEATH EACH TRACK. 
          SO WHERE IT SAYS A VETERAN WITH CONNECTION TO LONG BEACH, LET'S CHANGE WHAT SHE'S SAYING IS CHANGE THAT TO ACTIVE DUTY OR VETERAN. 
          RIGHT. 
          'CAUSE WE'RE ACCEPTING ACTIVE DUTY. 
          NO, WE'RE NOT. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU HAVE TO BE A VETERAN. 
          YOU HAVE TO BE DONE WITH MILITARY SERVICE TO BE ON A VETERAN. 
          YEAH, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, SO I'M JUST, WELL, REMEMBER THIS IS JUST THE PILOT PROGRAM, RIGHT. 
          SO WE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE THIS NEXT YEAR. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WHEN, WHEN WE GO TO MAKE THIS A A TRUE LONG LASTING PROGRAM, THIS IS JUST FOR US TO LEARN WHAT WORKS AND DOESN'T WORK. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M SORRY, JUAN, WERE YOU PROPOSING THAT ACTIVE DUTY BE NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. 
          I WAS JUST SAYING LIKE WITH THE WORDING, BECAUSE IF THERE'S RE LET'S JUST SAY IF YOU WERE AN ACTIVE DUTY RESERVIST FOR 30 YEARS, 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DO THAT, AND THEN NOW THEY'RE RETIRED. 
          I JUST WOULD LIKE FOR THE WORDING TO BE OPEN SO PEOPLE ARE NOT FEELING EXCLUDED. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IF THEY, IF THEY'RE, IF THEY ARE A VETERAN. 
          SO IN THIS CASE IT WOULD BE LIKE AN SOMEBODY THAT WAS A ACTIVE DUTY RESERVIST, BUT NOW THEY'RE RETIRED. 
          RIGHT. 
          IT'S JUST A SUCCESSION. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT SO IF YOU'RE ACTIVE DUTY RESERVIST THAT'S RETIRED FROM THE MILITARY, NOT, NOT RETIRED, THAT'S THE WRONG WORD. 
          IT IS NO LONGER AS PART OF THEY'RE NOT ACTIVE DUTY ANYMORE. 
          YEAH. 
          IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES. 
          SO THEY WERE ACTIVE DUTY, I DON'T WANNA SAY RESERVE. 
          THEY'RE ACTIVE RESERVE ACTIVE DUTY. 
          YES. 
          ACTIVE RESERVE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN THEY GOT OUT OF THE RESERVE AND NOW THERE'S, THEY'RE CONSIDERED A VETERAN AT THAT POINT. 
          CORRECT? YEAH. 
          YOU, YOU COULD DO IT AS A VETERAN. 
          PARENTHESES, ACTIVE DUTY OR RESERVE CLOSE PARENTHESES THAT WOULD SAY IT AGAIN. 
          YOU SAY A VETERAN PARENTHESES ACTIVE DUTY OR RESERVE CL CLOSE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THEN CONTINUE. 
          'CAUSE THEN THAT SAYS EVERYTHING. 
          IT'S JUST RIGHT. 
          YOU'RE ONE OF THE, AND THAT COVERS EVERYBODY. 
          YOU DON'T NOT HAVE TO DO WITH BRANCHES OR ANYTHING THAT JUST SAYS OKAY. 
          ANY SORT OF RESERVIST. 
          YOU'RE FINE. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN YOU SAY IT AGAIN? 'CAUSE GINA'S MAKING A OKAY. 
          UH, 
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A, UH, ALL, ALL THE WAY FRONT THERE, GINA? NO. 
          OH YEAH. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND THAT, THAT'S COOL. 
          YEAH. 
          LIKE THAT COVERS IT RATHER THAN YEAH. 
          JUST LIKE THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          NATIONAL GUARD. 
          YEAH. 
          I'LL GET RID OF WELL, THE THING THAT THE CHILDREN A LITTLE BIT THE SUBGROUPS, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          I'M GONNA TAKE THAT OFF. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, THE THING THAT I'M TRIPPING ON IS THAT A RESERVIST COULD BE ACTIVATED. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT, BUT WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE RESERVISTS ARE OUT. 
          SO YEAH. 
          YOU HAVE TO BE DONE. 
          SO WHEN, WHEN I WAS A RESERVIST. 
          OKAY, GOT IT. 
          YOU HAVE, I DID SIX YEARS ACTIVE, TWO YEARS INACTIVE. 
          AND AFTER MY TOTAL OF EIGHT YEARS, I GOT MY DISCHARGE PAPER. 
          NO, YOU MADE A GOOD, HE MADE A GOOD POINT. 
          YOU, YOU, THE ONE PRINT PIECE, LITTLE PIECE YOU'RE GONNA ADD, GONNA BE ACTIVE DUTY, COMMA RESERVE, COMMA, NOT RESERVED. 
          RESERVE AT THE TOP. 
          ACTIVE DUTY RESERVE. 
          SO GO ACTIVE DUTY, COMMA, GET RID OF OR MM-HMM . 
          RESERVE WITHOUT A D COMMA, NATIONAL GUARD, THEN THERE'S NO CONFUSION. 
          OKAY. 
          IF YOU, YOU, YOU ARE THE EXPERTS, YOU ARE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS HERE. 
          SO I'LL, I'LL, UH, ADD THAT TO THE FIRST LINE. 
          RIGHT? VETERAN. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST MAKE SURE THEY'RE CAPITALIZED TOO. 
          YEAH. 
          . 
          OH, DUTY, DUTY RESERVE. 
          A DR RESERVE. 
          OKAY. 
          A DR. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          GOT IT. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT SOLVES YOUR, THAT SOLVES EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 
          FANTASTIC. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER, UM, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, DISCUSSIONS, PUBLIC COMMENTS AT ALL? SO WE'RE JUST, SO WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE JUST DEALING WITH THE FORM ITSELF RIGHT NOW. 
          SO ONE MORE THING THAT WE HAVE, YOU HAVE IT AVAILABLE WITH THE QR CODE THAT YOU CAN SHOW? OH NO. 
          UM, SO I DID MAKE A QR CODE FOR THIS. 
          SO PEOPLE, IF THEY HAVE THEIR SMARTPHONE, IDEALLY WHEN WE HAVE OUR FLYERS, IF WE'RE GONNA GET 'EM WHENEVER, THAT'S FINE. 
          IDEALLY WE COULD PUSH THIS OUT ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS AND WHATNOT, JUST TO, YOU KNOW, AND FIGURE THIS OUT EVENTUALLY. 
          THAT IF YOU SCAN THIS, IT'LL TAKE YOU RIGHT TO THE GOOGLE FORM. 
          OH, THAT'S COOL. 
          THAT'S A COOL LOOKING QR TOO. 
          YES. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          THIS, THIS IS THE MAN OF HIDDEN TALENTS. 
          DID IT WORK WITH ALL THE SPLATTERS IT ON MY PHONE, BUT I CAN'T DO IT FROM THE PHOTO WHEN IT SHOWS, UH, DO IT, UH, WANT TO DO IT OFF A COMPUTER. 
          'CAUSE THE SCATTERED YEAH. 
          IT'S TOO, TOO MANY THINGS GOING ON THERE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF I MADE IT LIVE. 
          YEAH, IT, IT'S LIVE. 
          IT'S ALL GOOD. 
          IT'S, IT'S GOOD. 
          LOOK IT WHAT THAT IS. 
          WE CAN ALSO CHANGE THE FORM TO MATCH THE NOW APPROVED BANNER HEART. 
          'CAUSE THAT BACKGROUND IS YEAH, THAT IT'S SO COOL. 
          I, I DON'T THINK IT ENTIRELY MATTERS BECAUSE IT MATCHES THE POSTCARD THAT WE PUT OUT FOR THE VETERANS DAY EVENT, BUT WE COULD IT IS, IT IS LIVE CHAT. 
          SO OBVIOUSLY THE THEME HERE IS THE AMERICAN FLAG, AS YOU GUYS PROBABLY DECIPHER. 
          SO, OH, NICE JOB. 
          BUT HOW DO WE GO TO, LIKE, WHEN YOURS, DID YOU OPEN IT? DOES IT, HOW DO WE GO TO, LET ME JUST TRY PUT MY NAME. 
          IT ONLY BRINGS UP ONE AND TWO. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT CORRECT. 
          AND THEN ARE YOU NOMINATING YOURSELF? YES. 
          OH, AND THEN IT POPS UP. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT IT'S CALLED, BRANCHING. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          WHICH PATH IT TAKES. 
          COOL. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S NICE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S AWESOME. 
          AND THAT'S IT. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER, UM, SO IF WE CAN GET A, UM, WE ARE APPROVING RIGHT NOW. 
          YES. 
          I THINK, WELL, WE'RE APPROVING ALL THESE. 
          WELL, I GUESS SO THE MOTION WOULD BE DO WE APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS WRITTEN? YES. 
          MINUS THE EXTRA NUMBER. 
          FOUR SECOND. 
          YEP. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          FIRST, FIRST AND THEN RYAN. 
          HE JUST DID GOOD WORK. 
          NICELY DONE. 
          YOU GUYS ROCK. 
          OKAY. 
          OH, ONE OTHER THING TO DISCUSS ABOUT THIS IS, UM, THE MARK, THE OPEN PERIOD FOR THIS IS BASICALLY NOW-ISH, I GUESS THROUGH THE END OF MARCH BECAUSE WE AS A COMMISSION HAVE TO VOTE IN APRIL, WAIT FOR OUR APRIL MEETING. 
          SO WHO'S GONNA BE APPROVED? SO THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE THEM INSTALLED PRIOR TO MEMORIAL DAY, WHICH IS WHAT THE CITY BUDGET REQUIRES OF US. 
          LET'S, LET'S FINISH THE MOTION. 
          WAIT, WAIT, HOLD. 
          YOU'RE RIGHT, WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO FINISH THE MOTION. 
          WELL WAIT, SO CAN WE, UH, I MEAN IF WE'RE GONNA ADD THAT WE, WE HAVE TO VOTE. 
          SHOULD WE REVISE? NO, WE TRACK THE MOTION'S STILL ON THERE AND IT'S BEEN SECONDED. 
          SO WE HAVE TO EITHER DISCUSS OR VOTE. 
          SO THE, THE MOTION'S JUST ABOUT THE FORM AND THE APPLICATION. 
          CORRECT. 
          PERIOD. 
          YEP. 
          SO, SO MY, SO THE DISCUSSION, YEAH, I GUESS WE CAN GO INTO THE DISCUSSION NOW WOULD BE TO ADD THE DATE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND REDO IT. 
          BECAUSE THE, THE DATE'S ALREADY IN THERE. 
          THE TI UM, THE ENROLLMENT PERIOD, IT'S ON THERE. 
          YES. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          IF YOU LOOK ON YOUR PHONE, THE WEBSITE, IT'S THAT FIRST. 
          IT'S THE FIRST PART. 
          OKAY, COOL. 
          IT'S THE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT, WHAT IT IS BEFORE THE FIRST QUESTION. 
          IT'S GOT THE DEADLINE ON. 
          OH YEAH, I SEE IT IN THERE. 
          DEADLINE MARK 31ST. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, AND THE FORM IS SET UP SO IT'S CLOSE TO ITSELF AT 11:45 PM ON THE 31ST. 
          SO WE DON'T 
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HAVE TO DO ANYTHING. 
          IT CLOSES ITSELF. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SOME ON 1146 AND BE MAD. 
          YEAH. 
          SORRY. 
          IT'S, I HAVE, UH, UH, FOR DISCUSSION, WE DID PUT THE CITY OF LONG BEACH RESERVES, THE RIGHT TO REQUEST ADDITIONAL VERIFICATION AND MILITARY SERVICE IF NECESSARY BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE WENT AR YOU KNOW, HARD ON, WE DON'T REALLY WANT PEOPLE'S DD TWO FOURTEENS. 
          WE LOOKED AT THE CITIES OF, UH, COMPTON, WE PROBABLY LOOKED AT FOUR OR FIVE OTHER CITIES AND HOW THEY DID IT. 
          AND WE JUST DIDN'T WANT TO GET INTO, YOU KNOW, HAVING PEOPLE'S SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS AND, AND ALL OF THESE THINGS BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR. 
          SO, SO WE THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, WHO'S GONNA GO TO GREAT LENGTHS TO GET THEIR, THEIR PICTURE UP FOR FREE. 
          I MEAN, I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT VETERANS ARE GONNA LIE. 
          I'M NOT SAYING IT CAN'T HAPPEN. 
          SO THAT'S WHY IT JUST HAS THE ALL PURPOSE. 
          INSTEAD OF SENDING US YOUR DD TWO 14 AND YOUR MIL, YOU HAVE PHOTO, YOUR MILITARY ID, YOUR SOCIAL, WHATEVER. 
          THAT'S WHAT THAT, THAT'S WHAT THAT'S COVERED. 
          DO A TEST. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, UM, LET'S HAVE A VOTE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          NAYS? NO. 
          ABSTENTIONS. 
          SO MOTION PASSES. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          AND I HAVE THAT DOWN AS, UH, ALL OF THAT IS THREE A, B, A, AND B ON THAT. 
          I DUNNO IF YOU DID C OR NOT. 
          I THINK THAT WAS C. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK THE, I I THINK THE APPLICATION WAS C YEAH. 
          A, B AND CI WAS JUST GONNA SAY IS IF WE CAN'T, WE'LL TRY TO, MAYBE WE'LL HAVE GINA EMAIL US THE QR CODE, IF YOU GUYS DON'T MIND PUTTING IT ON YOUR SOCIAL MEDIAS TO GET IT OUT THERE. 
          'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S LIVE NOW. 
          SO IF YOU KNOW ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO APPLY YEAH. 
          SEND 'EM OUT THERE. 
          I'VE BEEN TALKING IT ABOUT, YES. 
          UM, KEN ON THE MARKETING SIDE, CAN WE GET THE SUPPORT THROUGH PAO TO PUSH IT OUT? THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ADD. 
          LONG BEACH PRESS, TELEGRAM, THE POST, ALL THE BASIC MEDIA OF LONG BEACH. 
          SO THE APPLICATION GOES THERE, IT GOES TO THE COUNCIL OFFICES MM-HMM . 
          AND IF WE HAVE EMAILS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, IT PUSHES OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, MAYBE THROUGH THE COUNCIL OFFICES. 
          'CAUSE THAT GETS IT TO THE QUICKEST WIDEST GROUP OF ACTIVIST KIND OF PEOPLES MM-HMM . 
          WHO MIGHT ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND ALSO WITH, WITH THE CITY OFFICE TOO, THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESOURCE OFFICE. 
          THEY HAVE EVERYBODY'S, UM, THEY HAVE ALL THOSE EMAILS AND ALL THEIR MEETINGS AND STUFF AS WELL. 
          I'D LIKE TO ADD A COMMENT AND THAT IS THAT WE ARE DOING A PUBLIC NOTICE. 
          IT DOES NEED TO BE APPROVED BY, UH, THE C-M-P-I-O. 
          SO WE, I KNOW THAT'S A LOT OF LETTERS, BUT THE PAO IS A PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICE FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. 
          I'M, I'M DRAFTING THE PUBLIC NOTICE. 
          IT WILL HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE CITY MANAGER. 
          SO WE ARE TECHNICALLY NOT ALLOWED TO PROMOTE THIS UNTIL THAT PUBLIC NOTICE HAS BEEN APPROVED. 
          UM, QUESTION WILL THAT, AND, AND THEN WILL THAT GO OUT? IS THAT WHERE THEN WE GET THE, THE PRESS RELEASE FROM THE CITY THAT HAS THE NUMBER ON IT? IS THAT PART OF THAT PROCESS? YEAH. 
          PUBLIC NOTICE WILL GO OUT, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          ONCE IT'S APPROVED, IT, IT WILL HAPPEN ACCORDING TO TALKING TO OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT, IT WOULD HAPPEN IN LESS THAN TWO WEEKS BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC NOTICE. 
          WHEREAS IF IT'S A FULL ON PRESS RELEASE, THERE'S QUOTES FROM MAYORS, THERE'S QUOTES FROM COUNCIL, IT TAKES A LOT LONGER TO APPROVE. 
          OKAY. 
          REMEMBER THE VETERAN'S DAY MEDIA RELEASE THAT TOOK A LONG TIME. 
          YES. 
          SO IF SOMEBODY PUSH IT OUT TO THE, WHOEVER IT'S GOTTA GO TO, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE IT TO THE VA, TO THE PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICE. 
          I'M THERE ALL THE TIME. 
          SO I CAN JUST WALK INTO THE OFFICE AND SAY HERE AND SEE IF THEY CAN SUPPORT ME IN WHAT OTHER GROUPS THEY HAVE. 
          THEY HAVE SUBGROUPS ON, ON SITE, SO WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE OUT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THERE WAS AN ARTICLE RECENTLY ABOUT A HUNDRED YEAR OLD VETERAN RECENTLY FROM LONG BEACHES IN THE NEWS IN ONE OF THE STATIONS. 
          THEY WERE HONORING HER AND I WAS LIKE, WELL, THERE'S . 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'LL JUST WAIT TO GET THAT EMAIL, UM, TO GO FROM YOU FOR THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS AS WELL. 
          UM, RYAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UM, ANY COMMENTS? NO. 
          UH, ANY, ANY COMMENTS? UM, NO. 
          I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          KEN, YOU'RE GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WITH THAT, UM, ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU FOR, FOR THE DISCUSSION. 
          NOW WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'RE GONNA GO ON TO OUR NEXT, WE'RE GONNA GO ONTO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS TO, UM, RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS OUR TWO, UM, THOUSAND, UM, OUR 2024, UM, MEETING CALENDAR. 
          AND THAT'S IN OUR PACKET. 
          IT'S RIGHT UNDERNEATH YOUR, UH, PRESENTATION. 
          THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THIS IS A, UM, THIS IS, AND THEN, UM, THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM. 
          SO THE REASON WHY WE'RE, UM, WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS JUST KIND OF TAKE A SNAPSHOT, UM, AND KIND OF REVIEW ALL OF THE DIFFERENT, UH, AND KIND OF ALIGN OUR MEETING, UM, OUR MEETING CALENDAR WITH A LOT OF THE EVENTS THAT WE HAVE FOR SUBCOMMITTEES. 
          UM, SOME OF THE OTHER STANDING EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES THAT WE HAVE, UM, LINED UP. 
          AND ALSO, TWO MORE IMPORTANTLY, IS SO OTHER MEMBERS ON THE COMMISSION 
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CAN, UM, PLAN ACCORDINGLY, IF YOU WILL, TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE, UM, TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE QUORUM. 
          BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE ITEMS WE WANT, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST TO GIVE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS GIVE EVERYONE THE OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF WEIGH IN ON SOME OF THESE DISCUSSIONS. 
          SO NOW WHEN WE MEET, SAY IN OUR NEXT MEETINGS, NOW, WE'RE NOT KIND OF GOING BACK AND REVISITING SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE'VE ALREADY, UM, APPROVED. 
          SO IF WE COULD JUST LOOK AT, UM, JUST GOING THROUGH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO CALL OUT REAL QUICK THAT, UM, IT IS, IT IS BUDGET. 
          IT'S UM, IT'S BUDGET SEASON. 
          THE CITY COUNCIL IS, UM, IS PRESENTLY TAKING INFORMATION FROM THE COMMUNITY AND PUTTING TOGETHER, UM, A TENTATIVE BUDGET FOR 2025, UM, BUDGET CYCLE. 
          AND WITH SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'LL DISCUSS NEXT MONTH WITH LIKE OUR SPENDING FOR THIS CURRENT YEAR, OUR PROJECTED SPENDING FOR, I'M SORRY, FOR LAST YEAR, 23, OUR PROJECTED SPENDING TO INCLUDE, UM, OUR EXPENSES FOR THE, FOR THE BANNERS PROGRAM. 
          WHAT I, THE THOUGHT PROCESS THERE IS TO TAKE DURING THIS BUDGET CYCLE IS TO GO, OF COURSE WITH APPROVAL GOING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL TO KIND OF ASK FOR AN ADDITIONAL LINE ITEM FOR OUR VETERAN AFFAIRS COMMISSION. 
          SO THAT'S JUST THE KIND OF THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THAT. 
          UM, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, FOR OUR NEXT MONTH'S MEETING, WHICH IS MARCH, WE HAVE A CONFLICT. 
          AND IF YOU GUYS SEE FOR MARCH, 2024, WE HAVE A TWO B DETERMINED DATE BECAUSE WE HAVE ANOTHER, UM, LA COUNTY, MVA, UM, TOWN HALL MEETING THAT WE'RE GONNA, THAT KIND OF PRESENTS A CONFLICT FOR OUR MEETING SCHEDULE. 
          UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO GINA TO DISCUSS THAT TOWN HALL AND THEN COME BACK FOR US TO VOTE AND APPROVE A MEETING DATE FOR MARCH. 
          SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE HAVE TO, WE'RE KIND OF PUTTING THESE TOGETHER. 
          SO WE HAVE MARCH, WE HAVE THE ENTIRE CALENDAR OUT. 
          WE HAVE A CONFLICT, WHICH IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US AT OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED MARCH MEETING. 
          BUT FOR THIS PARTICULAR MEETING, I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO, UM, LOOK AT OUR CALENDARS AND PICK ANOTHER DATE TO MEET IN MARCH. 
          SO WE WOULD HAVE, UM, TWO, UM, EVENTS, IF YOU WILL. 
          GINA, I'LL TURN THIS OVER TO YOU TO DISCUSS THE TOWN HALL. 
          UH, THE TOWN HALL, LIKE I WAS SAYING, THE COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES HAS CHOSEN TO DO THEIR VETERANS TOWN HALL EVENT IN THE FOURTH DISTRICT, WHICH IS LONG BEACH, WHICH IS REALLY AN A, A COOL OPPORTUNITY. 
          SO IN PLACE OF HAVING THE VETERANS COMMISSION MEETING ON MARCH 13TH, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, HAVE YOU ALL ATTEND THIS VETERANS TOWN HALL MEETING SO THAT YOU CAN, THERE'S NOT OFFICIAL TIME FOR US TO SPEAK OR PRESENT, PER SE. 
          PROBABLY THE HEAD OF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, THE BIG, MY BIG BOSS MIGHT SAY, WELCOME TO LONG BEACH. 
          AND BECAUSE IT'S AT AMERICAN GOLD STAR MEN OR THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF, OF, UH, A GSM, UM, GLENN PATRICK WILL SPEAK JUST TO WELCOME PEOPLE, BUT WE CAN HAVE A TABLE THERE TO PASS OUT OUR POSTCARDS ABOUT THE, UM, BANNERS. 
          THE BANNERS. 
          WE CAN HAVE A GIANT POSTER MADE WITH THE Q CARD QR CODE ON IT. 
          BUT JUST TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, SUPERVISOR HAN PROMOTING THIS AND IT'S BEING PROMOTED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND ESPECIALLY IN THE FOURTH DISTRICT, IT'S, IT'S A COOL OPPORTUNITY. 
          SO FOR, FOR US TO BE PRESENT. 
          'CAUSE THIS WOULD NOT BE HAPPENING IF THERE WASN'T AN OFFICE OF VETERAN SUPPORT AND A VETERAN SUBMISSION DISTRICT. 
          RIGHT. 
          NOT THE FOURTH. 
          WELL, IF THE FOURTH DISTRICT OF THE SUPERVISOR. 
          OF THE SUPERVISOR OF THE COUNTY GOTCHA. 
          COUNTY DISTRICTS. 
          RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO ANY, UM, FIRST WE'LL TAKE, UM, UH, TAKE, UM, IF I CAN GET A MOTION ON, UM, A DATE FOR OUR MARCH MEETING. 
          DID I GET A MOTION, UH, HERE I'LL, HOW ABOUT THEY DO IT THIS WAY? I MOVE THAT WE SET THE MARCH MEETING FOR THE 20TH OF MARCH AT 5:00 PM AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. 
          AND THAT WAY WE CAN OPEN UP THE DISCUSSION IF SOMEBODY SECONDS IT. 
          OKAY. 
          BRIAN HAS MADE THE MOTION. 
          DO I, CAN I GET A SECOND ON THAT? I'LL SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY, UM, ANY DISCUSSION ON 
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MARCH 20TH? YES. 
          MY, MY COMMENTS ARE THAT I AM CLEAR ANY OF THOSE WEDNESDAYS IN MARCH, SO I'M NOT WEDDED TO THE 20TH. 
          I CAN ALSO DO A LOT OF THE OTHER DAYS OF THE WEEK THROUGHOUT THE MONTH. 
          SO IF SOMEBODY'S GOT SOMETHING THAT WORKS BETTER, LIKE I CAN WITHDRAW MY MOTION, I JUST FIGURE I'D THROW THAT OUT THERE AS AN OPTION. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? I WAS SAY IT MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRY A DIFFERENT DAY OF THE WEEK AS WELL TOO. 
          YEP. 
          UM, JUST 'CAUSE I KNOW FOR ME PERSONALLY, THE 20TH ISN'T THE BEST. 
          I MEAN, I HAVE SOMETHING ON THE SIXTH. 
          THAT'S WHY I LIKE THE SECOND WEDNESDAYS, BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING ON THAT WEDNESDAY. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT THE OTHER WEDNESDAYS ARE USUALLY BUSY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, AND I, I GUESS, UH, THAT'S JUST MY ONE THING IS I WOULD, I WOULD PREFER TO MOVE IT EITHER TO LIKE, UM, WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY OF THAT. 
          WELL, IT CAN'T BE THURSDAY 'CAUSE I HAVE ANOTHER CLASS TOO, SO TUESDAY'S BETTER FOR ME. 
          WE'LL PUT IT THAT WAY. 
          KEN, YOU HAVE CONFLICTS PRETTY REGULARLY WITH THIS DAY, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT'S WHERE I WAS GONNA BRING UP. 
          WEDNESDAY IS ALSO THE, UM, BELMONT HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING ON THIS DAY. 
          AND I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THAT. 
          THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST ASSOCIATIONS OUT THERE IN THE CITY. 
          WE GOOD TO HAVE PRESENCE THERE. 
          AND THEY'RE VERY FRIENDLY TOWARDS US, THE THIRD DISTRICT. 
          SO WHAT DAYS OF THE WEEK WORK BETTER FOR YOUR CALENDAR? LIKE YOU SAID TUESDAY. 
          TUESDAY, YEAH. 
          I COULD, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT MY TUESDAY. 
          I COULD DO TUESDAYS THE 19TH AND IT WOULD JUST, AND IT WOULD JUST BE FOR THIS MEETING, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE ORIGINALLY, YEAH, THAT'S MY BOSS. 
          WE ORIGINALLY SAID NO, TUESDAY BE JUST IN CASE IF WE HAD TO GO, UM, TO CITY COUNCIL. 
          THAT'S WHY WE, THAT'S WHY WE DID NOT PICK A TUESDAY. 
          SO WOULD IT BE JUST DISCRE, DOES COUNCIL MEET EVERY TUESDAY OR, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          EXCEPT FOR THE LA THEY'RE DARK ON THE LAST, UH, THE LAST TUESDAY OF THE MONTH. 
          BUT WE DO, WE DON'T HAVE ANY COUNCIL PRESENTATIONS SCHEDULED IN MARCH. 
          WE WILL HAVE A COUNCIL PRESENTATION IN MAY PERTAINING TO BOTH MEMORIAL DAY AND THE VETERANS BANNERS, BUT WE WE'RE NOT, UH, SCHEDULING ANYTHING IN MARCH. 
          THEN WHAT IF WE CONSIDER TRYING THE LAST, THE LAST TUESDAY, SEE HOW THAT WORKS IN MARCH? AND THEN IF WE WANTED TO MOVE IT TODAY, THAT WOULDN'T CONFLICT WITH CITY COUNCIL. 
          IT GIVES US A CHANCE TO TEST ON A TUESDAY EVENING. 
          AS LONG AS YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH MEETING AGAIN TWO WEEKS LATER MM-HMM . 
          BECAUSE, UH, WE'LL BE MEETING ON THE SECOND WEDNESDAY. 
          BUT IT SO YOU'RE SAYING JUST FOR THIS, JUST FOR MARCH? YEAH. 
          JUST KIND OF AS LIKE THE, AND IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO TEST THE DAY. 
          I REALIZE IT WOULD BE A TWO WEEK TURNAROUND, BUT WELL, IN THAT MEETING WE COULD VOTE IF WE WANT TO MAKE THE CHANGE AND TWO WEEKS LATER WE COULD SAY, OKAY, YEAH, THAT TUESDAY, THAT WORKED THE END OF THE MONTH. 
          SO WE'D MEET IN MARCH AS NORMALLY SCHEDULED, AND THEN WE'D SAY, OKAY, NEXT MEETING IS, WELL, JUST REMEMBER WE'RE GONNA HAVE PROBABLY TWO NEW PEOPLE, HOPEFULLY MM-HMM . 
          AND THAT'S THEIR FIRST MEETING WITH US. 
          YEAH, EXACTLY. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S OUR FIRST IMPRESSION, RIGHT? AT SOME POINT WE WILL, YOU KNOW, THAT WE, WE TRIED TO CHANGE THE MEETINGS FROM WEDNESDAY AT SOME POINT AND WE ALL SAID NO. 
          AND THERE THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSS AND, AND AGENDIZE. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, I'M OKAY WITH MOVING TO THE LAST TUESDAY. 
          I THINK THAT'S, THAT'LL WORK FOR ME PERSONALLY. 
          UM, AND I'M OKAY WITH HAVING THAT BUFFER MEETING TWO WEEKS LATER BECAUSE THAT APRIL MEETING FOR ME, BECAUSE ON THE, THE LEAD FOR THE BANNERS AON COMMITTEE IS APRIL'S MORE IMPORTANT TO ME THAN, THAN MARCH IS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THE THING IS, WE CAN KEEP IT AS THIS FOR NOW AND THEN WHEN THE, WHEN THE, WHEN THE CHANGE HAPPENS, WE GOT ALL THESE NEW PEOPLE AND IT'S CHANGING OVER. 
          IT'S THEIR SCHEDULE. 
          THEN YOU GO BACK THROUGH, THEN YOU GO BACK THROUGH IT AGAIN AND YOU KIND OF REVISE IT AGAIN BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE, THEY WILL HAVE DIFFERENT CONFLICTS. 
          YEP. 
          THEIR OWN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE, ALRIGHT, SO I'M GONNA AMEND MY MOTION. 
          OKAY. 
          GOT IT. 
          I WILL AMEND MY MOTION TO SET THE MARCH MEETING TO CAN'T AMEND IT, RIGHT? YOU'D HAVE TO VOTE ON IT. 
          IT HAS TO FAIL FIRST. 
          NO, YOU CAN AMEND IT. 
          CAN YOU AMEND IT AFTER YOU AMEND IT? SO I'M AMENDING MY MOTION TO YOU WANNA RESCIND AND THEN REDO IT? YEAH. 
          IS THAT BETTER? ALRIGHT. 
          OR RESCIND . 
          DAMN POOR NICK. 
          HE'S ALRIGHT. 
          SEE ROBERT'S RULES AGAIN. 
          THAT'S ROBERT'S RULES. 
          THAT'S ROBERT'S RULES. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ROBERT GOT ME AGAIN. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I'M RESCINDING MY MOTION. 
          I WITHDRAW MY MOTION. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          I'M NOW MOVING. 
          WAIT, THERE WAS A SECOND. 
          THE SECOND HAS TO WITHDRAW TOO. 
          YOU WANNA WITHDRAW? I WITHDRAW MY SECOND. 
          ALRIGHT, WE'RE CLEAR. 
          NO I'M NOT. 
          AH, DAMNIT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I MOVE THAT OUR MARCH MEETING BE SCHEDULED FOR 5:00 PM ON MARCH 26TH HERE AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. 
          SECOND. 
          GOT IT. 
          HOW DO I TURN THIS OFF FOR NOW? UH, REALLY QUICK. 
          I WENT BACK. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ANY, ANY DISCUSSION, 
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ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YEAH. 
          AND I DID LISTEN TO YOU. 
          NOPE. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, I SHOULDN'T PUT THE QR CODE UP. 
          THAT'S ALL RIGHT. 
          I SHOULD GIVE IT TO Y'ALL LATER. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WHEN DO YOU WANT THIS START? DID YOU GO? UM, LET'S, LET'S MAKE IT ON, UH, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY. 
          WELL, LET'S JUST MAKE IT MARCH 1ST. 
          AND IF I CAN, IF I, IF THE A THING IS APPROVED SOONER. 
          SORRY GUYS. 
          I COMPLETELY DERAILED. 
          I MOVED THE 29TH. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THERE 29TH OF FEBRUARY? YEAH. 
          YES. 
          THIS TIME. 
          YEAH. 
          PRESIDENTIAL YEARS ARE ALWAYS, I'M GONNA MAKE IT AT NOON ON, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA LEAP OFF THE CLIFF. 
          OKAY. 
          PERFECT. 
          , THANK YOU. 
          MAKES YOU WANT TO LEAP OFF THE CLIFF? UM, DID WE VOTE ON THAT? I'M SORRY. 
          WE'RE WAITING. 
          WE'RE WAITING. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M READY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I TELL PEOPLE I'M GLAD I'M ALRIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, ARE WE READY TO VOTE NOW? YEP. 
          READY? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY NAYS? NO. 
          ANY ABSTENTIONS. 
          SO, UM, AND THEN I KNOW, RIGHT? IT'S, I KNOW RIGHT? , THIS IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO NOW, SO NOW THE SECOND PART OF THIS, UM, WITH THE CALENDAR, SO WE'RE GONNA PUT THAT IN FOR MARCH. 
          UM, SO NOW WE HAVE A DATE MARCH, UH, 26TH FOR OUR NEXT MEETING. 
          NOW, BECAUSE THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM AND WE'RE ALREADY SET FOR TUESDAY, GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, THE MEETING CALENDAR FOR THIS YEAR. 
          I'LL SIT MOVED. 
          UH, CAN I GET A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT. 
          UH, I WANT TO MAKE AN, AN AMENDMENT SO THAT ON THIS APRIL 10TH YEAH. 
          CAN WE ADD THE, WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT VOTING FOR THE BANNERS. 
          SO THAT'S GONNA BE A BIG PART OF THE WHOLE MEETING. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT WILL GO. 
          CAN WE DO THAT? JUST, YEAH, WE DON'T NEED TO CHANGE THIS 'CAUSE THE MEETING STAYS THE SAME, BUT WE'LL MAKE THAT ALL ABOUT BANNERS. 
          YES. 
          LIKE THAT'S THE MAIN AGENDA. 
          CORRECT. 
          THAT'S GONNA BE THE BULK OF THE MEETING IS JUST THAT BANNERS. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, RYAN AND JO, UM, AND MTY, RIGHT. 
          TO APPROVE THE CALENDAR. 
          YEP. 
          SO THAT'S, YOU GOT THAT RYAN AND MTY TO APPROVE THE CALENDAR? NO, WE CAN'T EDIT THAT. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          SHE HAS THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, CALENDAR WE VOTE AGAIN. 
          YEAH. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY NAYS? ANY, ANY EXCEPTS ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          OKAY. 
          GINA? YES. 
          THE MARCH CHANGE IS YORK, YOU'RE THE CALENDAR OWNER ITEM SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE IT THEN IT'LL CHANGE IN OUR CALENDAR. 
          YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          I TRIED TO CHANGE IT AND I CAN'T AFTER WORKING HOURS. 
          KEN, SHE'LL DO IT TOMORROW. 
          . 
          I DON'T CARE. 
          NEXT MONDAY. 
          MONDAY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO MOVING TO OUR NEXT, UM, PORTION OF OUR, UM, AGENDA, UM, ANNOUNCEMENTS. 
          GINA, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR AN ANNOUNCE. 
          WE NEVER COORDINATOR REPORT EITHER, RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          BUT WE'RE WE'RE, IT'S KIND OF . 
          I'M JUST GONNA CALL YEAH, I'M GONNA JUST CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THESE NEW AGENDAS ARE BEAUTIFUL AND LOVELY, BUT WE'RE, WE CAN'T CALL OUT THINGS LIKE COORDINATORS REPORT, CHAIRS REPORT, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, THE THINGS THAT WE USED TO. 
          SO ALL OF THAT GOES UNDER ANNOUNCEMENTS NOW. 
          SO, UH, AT THE TOP OF THE MEETING, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL DO AUTOMATIC FROM NOW ON. 
          WE, WE BASICALLY WILL MOVE ANNOUNCEMENTS TO THE TOP. 
          SO RIGHT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          SO WE CAN GIVE THE CHAIR CAN GIVE HER REPORT. 
          I CAN GIVE MY REPORT. 
          UH, WE, WE WON'T TACKLE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. WE'LL DO THAT RIGHT AFTER WE TAKE CARE OF THE AGENDAS ITEMS. SO, I'M SORRY THAT THIS IS SO ANNOYING THAT WE'RE GONNA CHANGE THE ORDER BECAUSE THE, THE NEW SYSTEM DOESN'T ALLOW YOU TO DO THESE THINGS. 
          BUT JUST THINK OF ANNOUNCEMENTS AS HAVING THESE OTHER COMPONENTS TO IT. 
          COULD YOU MAKE THE MAG AGENDA? NO, YOU CAN'T. 
          WELL, UNLESS THEY'RE, YOU, YOU DON'T NEED TO VOTE ON MY CHAIR REPORT OR HER, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A REPORT. 
          IT HAS, IT HAS, UM, APPROVED. 
          IT SAYS APPROVED. 
          THERE'S AN ACTION. 
          IS THERE A DROPDOWN IN THAT ACTION SECTION THAT SAYS OTHER THINGS? SO IF YOU MADE THE REPORTS ACTION, BUT THEN WE HAVE TO VOTE ON 50,000 THINGS PER EVERY MEETING. 
          WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THE BROWN ACT, RECEIVE AND FILE. 
          YEAH. 
          OH, WE DIDN'T DO THAT. 
          SUGGESTED ACTION DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A VOTE. 
          I DON'T THINK. 
          IT COULD BE RECEIVE AND FILE. 
          'CAUSE THEN YOU COULD MOVE IT UP TO THE FRONT AND THEN IT WOULD BE WHERE WE WANT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          WELL, I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT WITH THE, THE CLERK'S OFFICE. 
          'CAUSE ALL SHE'S TOLD ME SO FAR IS LIKE, YOU CAN STILL DO THESE THINGS, BUT THEY ALL GO UNDER ANNOUNCEMENT. 
          SO I'LL SAY IS IZING THEM AND HAVING THEM VOTED ON EVERY, EVERY TIME. 
          NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE SAID. 
          WE SAID YOU STILL HAVE TO VOTE ON A RECEIVING FILE, DO YOU? YES, I DON'T THINK SO. 
          YES, YOU DO. 
          YOU STILL HAVE TO MAKE AN AMO MAKE A MOTION AND APPROVE IT. 
          AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND. 
          WELL, THAT TAKES US TWO SECONDS. 
          [01:10:03]
OKAY. 
          YOU WANNA DO AN, YOU WANNA DO THE REPORT OR YOU WANNA DO THE ANNOUNCEMENTS FIRST? UM, I'LL DO THE REPORT REALLY QUICKLY AND PARDON THAT, THAT'S STILL UP THERE. 
          UM, BASICALLY IT'S BEEN A, A VERY BUSY MONTH WITH, UH, THE VETERANS BANNERS, UH, PREPARATIONS DOING THE FORM DO, UH, WORKING WITH THE GRAPHIC DESIGNER, FINDING OUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE MADE A A, A PLAN, MEANING WE, WE WILL HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA GRAPHICS, WE'LL HAVE THE QR CODE, WE'LL HAVE THE, AN ACTUAL LINK AND GETTING THOSE ALL QUEUED UP. 
          WE'VE MADE A A, A PROMOTIONS PLAN. 
          UM, MY NEW SUPERVISOR, CHRISTINA, IS, UH, SHE AND I HAD A, A WORKING SESSION ON THE, THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND ALIGNING WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND JUST GOING, HEY, THE CITY GAVE US THIS OFFICE BUT DIDN'T GIVE US THE MONEY TO ACTUALLY CARRY OUT THE GOALS. 
          THAT'S LIKE THE 900 POUND ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM. 
          NO, THAT'S A SMALL ELEPHANT, ISN'T IT? IT'S A GORILLA. 
          UM, SO THAT'S REALLY GOOD TO HAVE SOMEBODY WHO GETS IT AND UNDERSTANDS SHE'S SEEN UNFUNDED PLANS BEFORE. 
          LET'S CREATE AN OFFICE. 
          LET'S JUST GIVE HER, GIVE ONE STAFF PERSON AND THEN EXPECT, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE THINGS TO HAPPEN. 
          SO, UM, WE'RE ALSO MEETING LIKE WITH SPECIAL EVENTS TO, YOU KNOW, GET PERMISSION, QUOTE UNQUOTE, TO FUNDRAISE, SO TO SPEAK. 
          LIKE THEY, WE NOW HAVE A $50,000 BUDGET, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR THE VETERANS, UH, DAY EVENT, BUT WE STILL RAISED 5,000 FOR THE FLYOVERS. 
          SO THERE, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS WE HAVE SPECIAL EVENTS BLESSING, AND THE COUNCIL KNOWS WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE CAN DO FUNDRAISING. 
          'CAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, HOW IT WENT LAST YEAR IS AFTER WE RAISED SOME 20 SOME THOUSAND DOLLARS, WE BASICALLY SAID, OH, NOW THE CITY'S INCREASED THE BUDGET TO 50. 
          SO YOU DON'T NEED THAT MONEY. 
          SO I DID SUBMIT A $10,000 PROPOSAL FOR OUR MEMORIAL DAY EVENT, FOR EXAMPLE, WHICH HAS NO CITY FUNDING TO THE PORT OF LONG BEACH. 
          SO KEEP YOUR FINGERS CROSSED THAT WE'LL GET THE MONEY THAT WE WANT FOR THE MEMORIAL DAY EVENT. 
          UM, LET'S SEE, WHAT ELSE? I THINK THAT THOSE ARE THE MAIN THINGS IS THAT IT'S, IT'S A BUSY MONTH AND IT'S, UM, IT'S EXCITING AND FUN TO THINK THAT WE'RE GETTING CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THE BANNERS HAPPENING. 
          UH, WE HAVE A, A MEMORIAL DAY COMMITTEE THAT HAD MET FOR THE FIRST TIME ON FRIDAY. 
          IT WAS JUST KEN AND GUS. 
          SO I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE ALREADY BUSTING IT WITH OTHER THINGS. 
          BUT IF YOU WANNA BE PART OF, UH, THE COMMITTEE PLANNING, THE, UM, MEMORIAL DAY EVENT, JUST LET ME KNOW. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          UM, ANY QUESTIONS? ANY, ANY COMMENTS? ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY, THANK YOU GINA, FOR THAT. 
          UM, SO I'LL JUST SAY, UM, LOOKING AT THE TIME, UH, FIRST I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT ON, UM, UM, ON VETERAN'S DAY. 
          THAT WAS PART OF THE WHOLE, UM, PURPOSE FOR SENDING OUT THOSE EMAILS AND TEXTS, YOU KNOW, JUST TRYING TO, UM, BRING IT TO EVERYONE'S. 
          I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON, BUT JUST TRYING TO, UM, BRING IT TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION THAT OUR MEETING WAS SCHEDULED IS, WAS SCHEDULED FOR VALENTINE'S DAY AND GIVING PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO OPT OUT. 
          SO, UM, I DO APPRECIATE YOU GUYS. 
          UM, I WAS REALLY BEING COGNIZANT, YOU KNOW, OF YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS AND YOUR FAMILIES AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO STAY IN GOOD GRACES WITH YOUR, YOU KNOW, WITH YOUR SPOUSES. 
          SO, UM, I DO WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR THAT AS WELL. 
          AND, UM, JUST GOING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE CALENDAR, TRYING TO, UM, ESPECIALLY WITH A WHOLE NEW, UM, YOU KNOW, GROUP OF COMMISSIONERS, YOU KNOW, COMING IN. 
          IT'S TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, LIKE TAKE OURSELVES SERIOUS, BUT LIKE NOT TOO SERIOUS. 
          UM, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK. 
          WE'VE PUT A LOT OF, UM, HARD WORK INTO, UM, A LOT OF ACTIVITIES AND OUR EVENTS. 
          AND AGAIN, THANK YOU GINA AND EVERYONE THAT'S HELPED OUR PARTNERS, VOLUNTEERS THAT HAVE HELPED US AND MADE DONATIONS. 
          WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF VISIBILITY, UM, ON OUR COMMISSION. 
          SO I ATTENDED, UM, JANICE HANS, UM, SHE HAD A POPUP IN, UM, IN CD IN CD EIGHT, UM, THIS PAST SATURDAY. 
          SO I WENT, UM, YOU KNOW, AND KIND OF, YOU KNOW, TALKED ABOUT VAN AND YOU KNOW, JUST THE WHOLE, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE DISTRICT SUPPORT OF WHAT WE NEED FROM VETERANS. 
          AND HER AND HER STAFF, THEY WERE, I MEAN, THEY WERE JUST SO ON IT. 
          AND YOU KNOW, SHE, YOU KNOW, SHE'S SAYING THAT THERE IS, THAT THERE'S MONEY. 
          THERE'S MONEY AND THERE'S PROGRAMS AT THE COUNTY, UM, AT THE COUNTY LEVEL FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR VETERANS, RIGHT? SO KIND OF SOME OF THE OTHER DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'RE HAVING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TAPPING INTO THAT, YOU KNOW, TAPPING INTO THOSE RESOURCES SO WE CAN REALLY BRING SOME OF THOSE PROGRAMS AND PROVIDE THE TYPE OF, UM, UM, THINGS THAT ARE LAID OUT IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN FOR VETERANS HERE IN THE CITY, UM, IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH. 
          SO, UM, TAKING OURSELVES SERIOUS, BUT 
          [01:15:01]
ALSO REALLY TOO FOR SHOWING UP. 
          SO THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT ABOUT STRESSING, YOU KNOW, THE CALENDAR AND TRYING TO GET QUO HERE TODAY. 
          UM, THAT'S ALL, UH, UM, IN OUR NEXT MEETING, THANK YOU FOR THE MOTIONS AND SECONDS ON THAT FOR THE CALENDAR, AS WELL AS OUR NEXT MEETING BEING ON THE 26TH, WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO GO TO THE VETERAN, UM, YOU KNOW, TO THE VETERAN RESOURCE FAIR AS WELL AS THE TOWN HALL BECAUSE THAT GIVES US OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO PROMOTE OUR BANNERS PROGRAM. 
          SO THAT IS, UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          I JUST WANNA THANK YOU GUYS ALL, UM, FOR YOUR TIME AND WISH EVERYONE A HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY. 
          UM, NICK, I WANNA ASK YOU AFTER THE MEETING, LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT AMERICAN GOLDSTONE MATTER AND GETTING PEOPLE TO APPLY THAT DON'T HAVE EMAIL ADDRESSES. 
          LIKE I WANT TO, I WANT TO PICK YOUR BRAIN ABOUT THAT OFFLINE. 
          NOT, NOT RIGHT THIS MINUTE. 
          OKAY. 
          WHEN IS THE BUDGETING PROCESS ENDING? DO YOU KNOW THAT QUESTION? UM, SO TYPICALLY ON, UM, ON THE BUDGET, LIKE THERE, A LOT OF IT IS REALLY GONNA BE DRIVEN BY THE MAYOR'S. 
          UM, REVISE, I'M SORRY. 
          UM, THE GOVERNOR'S MAY REVISE, SO HE'S GONNA GO BACK AND HE'LL DO HIS REVISION, UM, OF THE BUDGET PRETTY MUCH LIKE AFTER WE ALL DO OUR TAXES. 
          SO THEN AROUND THAT TIME THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT CYCLE, THAT'S WHEN ALL THOSE THINGS ARE GONNA BE, UM, YOU KNOW, COMING DOWN RIGHT? TRICKLING DOWN, LIKE TO CITY COUNCIL. 
          SO THEY'LL KNOW LIKE HOW MUCH MONEY THAT THEY'RE ANTICIPATED, UM, THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE IN THEIR COFFERS. 
          SO LIKE RIGHT NOW, THOSE DISCUSSIONS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF THE SURVEY IS, YOU KNOW, IS STILL, UM, A LIE. 
          UM, UM, I WILL LOOK AND SEE. 
          I THINK I'LL, I'LL, I'LL SEE THAT WITH GINA, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE SOLICITING A, THE FEEDBACK FROM ALL OF THE CONSTITUENTS, SO I'M SURE LIKE RIGHT NOW, 'CAUSE THAT'S ALL CONCLUDED, THOSE IN-PERSON MEETINGS. 
          SO THEY'RE COMPILING ALL THAT DATA AND KIND OF GOING BACK TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT DID WE TELL THEM THAT WE WANT, UM, THE SPENDING TO BE ON, WELL, IT'S KIND OF OF LIKE, IF WE HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH WE WANT, IT'S GOING TO OUR COUNCIL PEOPLE AND FINDING CHAMPIONS WHO WILL HELP PUSH IT IN. 
          IT'S, THE SURVEY IS GREAT, BUT IT'S, YOU'RE LIKE ONE DROP IN THE OCEAN, IT'S YOUR ONE LITTLE VOICE. 
          IF WE CAN SAY, OKAY, WE NEED X NUMBER OF DOLLARS AND THIS IS WHY, THEN WE CAN GO TO THIS, THIS, THE DISTRICTS WE KNOW ARE FRIENDLY, ALL YOU NEED IS FIVE AND YOU GET THOSE FIVE TO PUSH SOMETHING IN FOR US. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THEN WE HAVE A HIGHER CHANCE OF GETTING SOME CONSISTENT FUNDING RATHER THAN HAVING TO, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY GAVE US THE MONEY THIS YEAR, ALL THAT MONEY. 
          'CAUSE IT'S AN ELECTION YEAR. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          LET'S BE REAL. 
          THAT'S WHY EVERYBODY GOT MONEY. 
          SO NOW WHEN IT'S NOT AN ELECTION YEAR NEXT YEAR OR PA YOU KNOW, IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR WE MAY BE SCRAMBLING AND THE BUDGETS FROM THE STATE WE KNOW ARE GETTING CUT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO HOW DO WE MAINTAIN SOMETHING? YES. 
          SO IF, IF I MAY, THAT'S WHY I, UM, WHAT WE WILL PUT ON THE, WHAT WE'RE ASKING WE PUT ON THE AGENDA, UM, FOR NEXT MONTH IS TO, UM, THE SPENDING, EVERYTHING THAT WE SPENT ON THE ACTIVITIES, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHAT CAME IN, WHAT WE SPENT THOSE ON, UM, REVIEWING THE, UM, THE, WE'RE CALLING IT THE FINANCIAL REPORT RIGHT. 
          FROM 23 AND THEN INCLUDING OUR A THREE FOR OUR BANNERS AND OTHER ANTICIPATED RIGHT. 
          ADDITIONAL THINGS. 
          AND WE CAN USE LIKE THE SAME, UM, FUNDING THAT WE SPENT LIKE ON THE VETERAN'S DAY, UM, PROGRAM. 
          WE CAN KIND OF USE THAT AND WHATEVER ELSE WE WANNA PUT IN THERE. 
          AND I'M, AND MY SUGGESTION IS TO PROPOSE THAT, AND THEN WE, YOU KNOW, DURING THIS BUDGET CYCLE PERIOD IS OF COURSE WE HAVE TO GET US APPROVAL FROM, WE HAVE TO, UH, WE HAVE TO LET THE CITY MANAGER KNOW FIRST RIGHT? BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GO DOWN AND PRESENT, YOU KNOW, MAKE, UM, AN APPEARANCE BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ASKING, ADVOCATING FOR THOSE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          THERE'S NO MORE BUDGET SESSIONS THOUGH. 
          THERE'S NO MORE LIKE SHOWING UP IN PERSON. 
          NO. 
          WOW. 
          OKAY. 
          INTERESTING. 
          DID ANY, DID ANYBODY ATTEND? I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS EVEN WAY MORE POWERFUL. 
          'CAUSE THEY'RE JUST LOOKING FOR PUBLIC INPUT AT THAT POINT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WE'RE TALKING SOME VERY DIRECT, VERY SPECIFIC THINGS FROM A REC, AN ORGAN, A CITY ORGANIZATION ASKING FOR A PIECE OF THE CITY BUDGET. 
          YES. 
          IT'S EVEN, I THINK IT'S EVEN MORE, A MORE POSS A HIGHER POSSIBILITY THAN GOING TO A BUDGET SESSION MM-HMM . 
          WHERE THEY'RE JUST LOOKING FOR GENERAL PUBLIC INPUT. 
          YES. 
          BUT I'M JUST SAYING LIKE, SO THOSE, SO THOSE MEETINGS THROUGHOUT ALL THE DISTRICTS, THOSE HAVE ALREADY TAKEN PLACE. 
          YEAH, I KNOW THE SURVEY IS STILL GOING ON. 
          YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          I'M SAYING FOR US, WE LOOK AT WHAT OUR SPENDING IS GONNA BE, WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING. 
          I AGREE. 
          I AGREE. 
          AND THEN, YOU KNOW, GO DOWN, BUT WE HAVE TO GET PERMISSION FOR THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          J UM, UM, 
          [01:20:01]
JUNE. 
          RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          AND I AM REVIEWING, UH, WE, WE HAVE MADE A BUDGET, LIKE A DREAM BUDGET FOR THE OFFICE OF VETERAN SUPPORT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE WE CAN TAKE IT TO OUR FRIENDS AND TRY TO GET THOSE FIVE VOTES SO THAT BEFORE IT HAPPENS, WE'VE ALREADY INDIVIDUALLY TALKED TO INDIVIDUALS OR YOU GET A COUNCIL . 
          RIGHT. 
          ANY, UH, ANY OTHER, UM, ANY, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? ANY, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY. 
          SO WITH THAT, UH, UM, YOU, DID YOU WANNA GO OVER THESE, THE DIFFERENT ONES? YEAH. 
          UHHUH. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          AND WE'LL, SO I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO GINA FOR, FOR SOME OF THE OTHER, UM, ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT WE HAVE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 23RD, 11 TO ONE VETERANS RESOURCES FAIR, PURE SIDE OF THE BATTLESHIP, IOWA WITH FREE ADMISSION TO THE BATTLESHIP IOWA MUSEUM. 
          FREE EVENT PARKING, FOOD TRUCKS AVAILABLE. 
          FOOD TRUCKS AREN'T FREE. 
          HOSTED BY LA COUNTY SUPERVISOR JANICE HAN. 
          SO I PUT THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL FLYER IN CASE EDDIE, WHAT HE WANTS TO SHOOT A PICTURE OF IT. 
          AND IT'S ON THE SCREEN. 
          UH, LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE IS HAPPENING. 
          THIS WE ANNOUNCED LAST MONTH. 
          SORRY. 
          IT'S SO BIG. 
          THE VETERANS STAND DOWN ON FEBRUARY 24TH, 10 TO THREE. 
          SO JANICE HA'S RESOURCES FAIR IS ON THURSDAY. 
          THIS IS ON, UH, I MEAN IS ON FRIDAY. 
          THIS IS ON SATURDAY. 
          SO THE VETERAN STAND DOWN IS, UM, AT THE GARDEN GROVE ELKS LODGE IN GARDEN GROVE. 
          SO THERE'S A QR CODE ON THAT AND CONTACT INFORMATION. 
          SO AGAIN, YOU WANT ME TO TAKE A PHOTO OF THAT? UM, AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT CONSIDER DOING OURSELVES IN LONG BEACH, LBCC USED TO DO THIS, BUT THAT, THAT'S FAR IN THE FUTURE. 
          BUT, UM, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN VOLUNTEERING, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A TABLE THERE BECAUSE WE DON'T PROVIDE DIRECT RESOURCES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, WE, I MEAN, IS IT APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A APPLY FOR THE VETERANS BANNERS PROGRAM AT A STAND DOWN? PROBABLY NOT, RIGHT? WELL, YEAH, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT THAT'S FOR. 
          EXACTLY. 
          AND LET'S SEE, I'VE ALREADY TOLD YOU ABOUT THE TOWN HALL ON THE 13TH. 
          UH, THIS IS A DOY HERE. 
          THE, UM, I KNOW, KIND OF IRONIC, HUH? HE WAS GONE WAY BEFORE I WAS BORN. 
          SO WE, THIS IS THE RICHARD NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY VETERAN APPRECIATION DATE ON MARCH 18TH, 10 TO ONE. 
          THAT'S IN YOR, BELINDA. 
          SO THAT'S THROUGH VAN AGAIN. 
          AND, UH, SUPERVISORIAL DISTRICT ONE OCCASION TO CELEBRATE THE BIRTHDAY OF FORMER PRESIDENT RICHARD NIXON. 
          PAY TRIBUTE TO OUR BRAVE VETERANS WHO'VE SERVED OUR COUNTRY A VALUABLE OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE AND HONOR THEIR SERVICE AND COMMIT. 
          AND WE HOPE YOU CAN JOIN US FOR THIS EVENT. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS, THIS WILL ALL BE IN THE NEWSLETTER. 
          UH, THE NEWSLETTER WILL ALSO BE PROMOTING THE, THE BANNER BANNERS PROGRAM. 
          SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS ARE REPRICED ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE VETERANS COMMUNITY. 
          ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? ARE ALL THESE? NO. 
          CAN I GO TO THE CITY, TO THE VETERANS WEBSITE AND WILL ARE ALL THESE ON THERE? NO. 
          WHAT THE, OUR LANDING PAGE IS VERY SIMPLE. 
          IT, IT, UM, IF YOU GO TO LONG BEACH GOV SLASH VETERANS, YOU DON'T GET INTO THIS LEVEL OF DETAIL BECAUSE I I DON'T MAINTAIN IT. 
          IT'D BE NICE IF YOU COULD IT. 
          YES. 
          SOMEONE JUST GO THERE AND SAY, OH, YOU HEAR ALL THE , BUT WE HAVE A NEWSLETTER THAT WE PUT THESE IN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I'LL MAKE SURE YOU SUBSCRIBE TO THAT. 
          WHEN DO YOU NEED, UM, WHAT'S THE CUTOFF FOR, UM, INFORMATION ONTO THE NEWSLETTER? UM, I KIND OF PUT IT OUT MORE LIKE ON A EVERY EIGHT WEEKS BASIS. 
          SO, UM, I'LL LET YOU KNOW. 
          I THINK I WOULD WANT THINGS BY A WEEK FROM TODAY FOR THE ISSUE. 
          I'LL PUT OUT THAT FEATURE THAT'S, UH, FEATURED IN THE, FEATURING THE VETERANS BANNERS PROGRAM. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST TO ADD, UM, SOME INFO FOR, UM, WOMEN'S HISTORY. 
          OH, YEAH, GOOD IDEA. 
          COMING UP FOR MARCH. 
          AND THEN BETTER RELATED, OF COURSE, THE SIERRA CLUB, UH, ANGELES CHAPTER. 
          THERE'S A VETERANS OUTDOOR RECREATION LISTENING TOUR. 
          SO I KNOW THAT TRAVELING ON SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 24TH TO, UM, WILSHIRE BOULEVARD ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD FOR US DOWN HERE IN LONG BEACH, THE PERSON WHO IS HELPING TO ORGANIZE THAT, THEY WERE PART OF OUR, UM, VETERANS FAIR. 
          AND THEY ALSO CAME TO THE, UM, WHERE WAS THE 10 MILE THING? OH, WITH POKE CREW. 
          I DON'T REMEMBER THAT. 
          WHAT'S THAT GUY'S NAME? JESSE? NO, NOT JESSE, THE PERSON WHO'S FROM SIERRA CLUB. 
          OH. 
          UM, I DON'T REMEMBER HIS NAME, BUT EITHER WAY HE ASKED ME TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL KNEW ABOUT THIS EVENT. 
          SO I'LL SEND THAT OUT. 
          I THINK GENERALLY SPEAKING, ONE OF THE WAYS WE CAN ALSO IS THAT, IS MAKE SURE WE KNOW ABOUT THESE THINGS BESIDES THIS NEWSLETTER. 
          I, AND I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THIS UP ON THE WEBSITE, BUT THE, THE DATA GETS OUTDATED SO FAST THAT IT'S KIND OF EASIER TO DO IT IN A NEWSLETTER 
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TYPE FORMAT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IS THAT WE JUST HAVE A SHARED CALENDAR AND PUT ALL VETERANS RELATED EVENTS ON THAT SHARED CALENDAR AND MAKE SURE YOU ALL HAVE, ARE INVITED TO ALL OF THESE THINGS. 
          SO THAT'S ALL THE ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT, UH, YOUR HEART CAN DESIRE AT THIS POINT. 
          ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? UM, ANY QUESTIONS, REGINA? NO COMMENTS. 
          ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY. 
          IF THAT IS ALL, I WILL ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 6 35.
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