* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. ALL RIGHT. [00:00:01] OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE, UM, APRIL 10TH, UM, VETERAN AFFAIRS COMMISSION, UM, MEETING TO ORDER AT, UM, 5 0 4. CAN I GET, UM, UM, CAN I GET, UM, ROLL CALL OF, UM, JIM HERE? UH, MIKE KEN SMITTY. PRESENT. VIC RYAN. HERE. SYLVIA AND JUANITA PRESENT. OKAY. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THAT. IF WE COULD ALL STAND, UM, JIM, IF YOU COULD, IF YOU, IF YOU CAN SURE. CAN YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE? ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WIDGET STANDS. ONE NATION ON UNDERGRAD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU KNOW, MY, MY HUMBLE APOLOGIES BECAUSE, HI, HOW ARE YOU? COME ON IN. WE DO NOT HAVE QUORUM. I'M SORRY. BECAUSE MR. JIM GOODEN, AND THAT'S IN MY, MY, UH, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? MY REPORT. YOU HAVE COMPLETED ALL OF YOUR PAPERWORK. YOUR GOOD IS GOLD, BUT WHATEVER SYSTEM, AND YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS THE CITY, RIGHT? WHERE THEY PULLED THE NAMES FROM FOR THIS, THE TOP OF THIS THING. MM-HMM . YOU'RE, THERE'S SOME HOLD UP FOR WHATEVER. YEAH. I BECAME A CITY EMPLOYEE THIS MORNING. OKAY. SO MAYBE THAT'S WHAT IT'S, I GOT AN EMAIL THAT SAID YOU ARE NOT A CITY EMPLOYEE. AND I HAD TO DO A COUPLE OF THINGS. SO WHEN YOU, SO WHEN YOU ASKED THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, SO IS JIM OFFICIAL YET THAT, WELL, ACCORDING TO THIS SYSTEM, HE'S NOT IN THIS SYSTEM YET. SO WE CAN'T SAY THAT HE IS. YEAH. BUT I THINK IT'S YOU. THE OTHER PERSON HAS NOT COMPLETED THEIR PAPERWORK AT ALL WHERE YOU HAVE SIGNED EVERYTHING AND DONE EVERYTHING. SO I'M JUST GONNA, NOW THE PERSON I'M REPLACING, IS HE? YES, HE'S GONE. HE'S GONE NOW. HE'S RE HE'S RESIGNED. SO IT'S NOT OF THAT, NOT THAT, BUT, UM, I DID JUST COUNT YOU AS, AS QUORUM. IS THAT, IS THAT NO, WE STILL HAVE WITH HIM. THAT'S FOR QUORUM. 'CAUSE HE SAID IT GOT APPROVED THIS MORNING. YES, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I WENT AHEAD WITH THAT, BUT THEN I REALIZED I DON'T WANT TO GET IN TROUBLE. SO, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT THAT'S STILL QUORUM IF HE FILL ALL HIS OUT PAPERWORK. AND HE'S A CITY EMPLOYEE. HE IS ONLY JOB HE HAS IN THE CITY. IS THIS COMMISSION. CORRECT? THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT. SO I WOULD SAY THAT HE QUALIFIES AS A MEMBER TO REPRESENT DISTRICT ONE, BUT THAT WAS ACTUALLY IN MY STAFF REPORT, WAS TO TELL YOU WHY HIS NAME WAS NOT ON THE TOP OF THE CROSS. YEAH, YOU GAVE ME A DATE FOR, FOR MY NEXT PAYCHECK. I THINK IT WAS NEXT. OKAY. THAT'S PRETTY FUNNY. AND HE IS GOOD THAT WHOPPING $50. OKAY. ALRIGHT. OKAY. SO ARE WE GOOD? WE'RE GOOD. WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. SO LET'S PROCEED WITH OUR REGULAR, UM, AGENDA ITEMS. OUR FIRST, UM, ORDER OF BUSINESS IS RECOMMENDING, UM, THE APPROVAL OF THE FEBRUARY ON MARCH 20 ON MARCH 14TH MEETING, UH, MINUTES. UH, SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE FEBRUARY, UH, 14TH MEETING MINUTES. OKAY. DO IT BEFORE WE DO THAT, UH, SO WE HAVE SECOND AND FOURTH. SO, SORRY, GO AHEAD. YEP. BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THEM. RIGHT? RIGHT. YOU HAVE ONLY THE FEBRUARY 14TH. WE JUST HAVE FEBRUARY. I I WAS GONNA SAY IS, WELL, WE TALK ABOUT AFTER WE SECOND IT. SURE. I'LL SECOND IT SO WE MOVE ON. THANK YOU. I I WOULD SAY LET'S NOT MAKE THAT MOTION JUST YET. LET'S MAKE A MO 'CAUSE THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO PROVE BOTH OF 'EM. LET'S MAKE A MOTION TO CHANGE THAT TO ONLY APPROVE THE FEBRUARY AND NOT THE MARCHES MEETING. SO WHAT I HEAR IS, ARE YOU MAKING A, THE MOTIONS ALREADY ON THE FLOOR? WE HAVE TO VOTE ON HIS MOTION FIRST. I I SAID ONLY FEBRUARY 14TH, CORRECT? YOU DID. BUT WE, THE, THE AGENDA ITEM IS FOR US TO RECOMMEND, TO APPROVE. WE'RE EITHER APPROVING OR DISPROVING THE RECOMMENDATION. SO WE'D HAVE TO CHANGE THAT IN THE MINUTES. SO SHOULD I, SO SHOULD I, SO SHOULD I RETRACT IT? YEAH. AND THEN LIKE, REVISE IT THE FIRST TIME? YEP. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT I'LL DO. SO I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, SO I WOULD LIKE, SO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR ENT, WE CAN VOTE NO ON THE MOTION AND GET RID OF THAT. AND THEN WE START BACK OVER. AND THEN YOU CAN REVISE ITEM ONE. REMOVE MIGHT, I'LL WITHDRAW MY MOTION. THERE YOU GO. I WITHDRAW MY MOTION. YOU FIX IT THEN I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. OKAY. SO THE, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, UM, A REVISION, A SLIGHT REVISION TO THE AGENDA ITEM THAT WE, UH, THAT, THAT OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM IS ONLY TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE FEBRUARY MEETING. I WILL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE FEBRUARY 14TH MINUTES. I'LL SECOND THAT. ALL RIGHT. THERE WE GO. I HAVE A POINT OF DISCUSSION. OKAY. UM, I DON'T NEED IT CORRECTED, BUT I DID WANT TO POINT OUT [00:05:01] THAT THROUGHOUT MOST OF THE TEMPLATE, EVERYONE'S REFERRED TO BY COMMISSIONER IN THEIR LAST NAME UNTIL WE GET TO THE INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS WHEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE SWITCH BACK TO FIRST NAMES. OKAY. I DON'T CARE. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT MATTERS. I JUST SAW THAT AND THOUGHT THAT AT LEAST IF WE'RE GOING, OH YEAH, WE PROBABLY GOING ONE OR THE OTHER. THAT'S RIGHT. I DON'T CARE. WHICH, I HAVE NO PREFERENCE ON THAT AND IT DOESN'T STOP ME FROM WANTING TO APPROVE THESE MINUTES AS YOU'RE RIGHT. 'CAUSE WE HAVE LIKE, UH, 24 5 2 2 1 1. IT SAYS CHAIR SMITH AND THEN IT SAYS RYAN AND KEN. OKAY. DULY NOTED. COULD I MAKE POINT WHERE AS WELL TOO? CAN WE DO A CHAIR SMITH? 'CAUSE THAT WAY I'M NOT THE CHAIR, I'M THE AD CHAIR. ALRIGHT, THAT'S FAIR. THIS IS A TOUGH CROWD. OKAY. AND UM, AND RYAN, YOURS WAS FOR WHAT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH, UM, FIRST OR LAST NAME? UH, YEAH, IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME, WHICH, BUT AS IF WE PICK ONE BECAUSE THE REST OF THE, SO SOME COMMISSIONER SMITH AND COMMISSIONER RYAN WOULD PROBABLY BE BETTER. COMMISSIONER SMITH AND COMMISSIONER ANTIS. YEAH, LIKE IT'S, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. YEAH. OKAY. SO IS YOUR, IS YOUR, UM, IS YOUR SUGGESTION TO USE LIKE LAST NAME OR COMMISSIONER AND LAST NAME IS FINE. COMMISSIONER AND LAST NAME? GOT IT. OR JUST LAST NAME BECAUSE THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT'S IN ALL THE VOTING UHHUH. IT'S JUST LAST NAME, UHHUH COMMISSIONER, AND LAST NAME, RIGHT? YEP. OKAY, GOT IT. UM, IS THERE ANY, UM, ANY OTHER, UM, ANY OTHER CORRECTIONS OR, UM, UH, AMENDMENTS OR CHANGES TO THE MARCH? UH, I'M, I'M SORRY, THE FEBRUARY MINUTES AND THEN WE JUST RECEIVED IT. SO I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT, BUT IS EVERYONE ELSE OKAY WITH IT SO FAR? YES. OKAY. MATT, WILL, UM, SO DID WE GET A, A VOTE ALL IN FAVOR ON THAT? ON APPROVAL OF THOSE? AYE. OKAY. MOTION PASSES. MOTION PASSES, I'M SAYING. UM, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR SECOND, UH, OUR SECOND, UH, UM, TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE CHAIR'S REPORT. HE, I JUST MAKE SURE THAT RYAN, THAT, UM, THAT KEN IS HERE, UH, ALLOWED FOR HIM TO GET HERE TO TELL. YOU CAN SIT IF YOU WANT. YOU'RE NOT OSTRACIZED OVER THERE IN THE CORNER. I CAN. SO WHY RYAN IS, I'M SORRY. WELL, AGAIN, IS UH, UM, GETTING SETTLED? I'LL JUST GO AHEAD. UM, AINA, YOU CAN GO. YOU WANNA GO FIRST WITH YOUR STAFF REPORT? IS THAT OKAY IF WE, I, I'LL JUST, I JUST REPORT. SO I JUST WANNA SAY AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK, UM, I JUST WANNA THANK EVERYONE FOR, UM, TAKING THE TIME TO, UM, TO SHOW UP AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE QUORUM FOR THESE, UM, MEETINGS. WE HAVE LIKE, UM, A LOT OF STUFF THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, ACCOMPLISH, WE'RE TRYING TO DO SIMULTANEOUSLY, TRYING TO, UM, STAND UP OUR, UM, OUR, UH, BANNERS, OUR BA OUR PILOT BANNERS PROGRAM. WE'RE WORKING ON OUR MEMORIAL DAY, UM, EVENT AND TRYING TO LOOK AT OTHER WAYS TO, UM, TO REALLY GIVE THE COMMISSION, UM, SOME LEGS. SO DEDICATION AND COMMITMENT IS, UM, UM, IS GREATLY APPRECIATED. AND I JUST WANNA RECOGNIZE, UM, UH, GINA AND ALSO CHRISTINA FOR, UM, SOME OF THE OTHER MEETINGS AND SOME OF THE OTHER DISCUSSIONS THAT YOU GUYS ARE FIELD, YOU KNOW, AS WELL. SO APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU GUYS. AND THAT IS, UM, ALL I HAVE AT THIS TIME FROM MY REPORT. THE OTHER COMMENTS I WILL SAY AS WE WORK OUR WAY DOWN THROUGH THE AGENDA. OKAY? UM, WE ARE NOW MOVING AND SECONDING A RECEIVE AND FILE ON THE REPORTS. ALL RIGHT. I WILL MOVE THAT WE, UH, RECEIVE AND FILE THE CHAIR'S REPORT. GET A SECOND. YOU WANNA SECOND THAT ONE AS YOUR FIRST ACT OR TAKE THAT NOTE? I'LL SECOND IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. MOVING RIGHT ALONG TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER. WELL, WE HAVE TO APPROVE IT. OH, AND UM, CAN WE GET A VOTE? UH, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. APPROVE. UH, MOTION CARRIES TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE CHAIR'S REPORT. UM, OUR NEXT, UH, AGENDA ITEM IS, UH, TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE STAFF REPORT. GINA, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. OKAY. UM, WE, THIS MEETING STARTED A LITTLE BIT LAST MINUTE AND HARRI, SO I'M GONNA ASK EVERYBODY, UH, TO JUST GO AROUND THE ROOM AND SAY THEIR NAMES 'CAUSE WE HAVE GUESTS HERE TODAY. SO I'M GINA OVERHOLT, THE, UM, STAFF PERSON FOR THE VETERANS COMMISSION AND THE OFFICE OF VETERANS SUPPORT. RYAN AUNTIES, UH, COUNCIL DISTRICT SEVEN ARMY VETERAN. GO AHEAD. OH, I'M A GUEST. NICK RAETT. GUEST. CD SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBER. I MEAN, NOT COUNCIL MEMBER. RESIDENT AND VETERAN [00:10:01] RESIDENT DISTRICT. YES. JIM GOODEN. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FOR DISTRICT ONE. CHRISTINA BOATWRIGHT HEALTH DEPARTMENT. ERICA VALENCIA HEALTH DEPARTMENT. WAY TOO BAD. . UM, JOSH SMITTY SMITH. I'M IN DISTRICT FOUR. US ARMY VETERAN. KEN. I BOARD DISTRICT THREE. ARMY VET. WE NEED . UM, CD DISTRICT. UM, NINE US ARMY VET. IS THAT ALL ARMY EXCEPT FOR JIM? ARE YOU AIR FORCE? PARDON ME? AIR FORCE THAT I'M AIR FORCE? YES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE HOUSEKEEPING THING I WAS GONNA MENTION, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT JIM GOODMAN'S NAME IS MISSING FROM THE HEADER. MY APOLOGIES FOR THE LAG TIME WITH, YOU KNOW, UPDATES IN THE SYSTEM. WE KNOW THAT YOU'VE COMPLETED ALL OF YOUR COMMISSION PAPERWORK AND I WAS GONNA TELL VIC HILL IF HE WAS THERE TO PLEASE SEE ME AFTER CLASS. SO THANK YOU JUANITA, JUANITA AND MIKE FOR COMPLETING THE ETHICS TRAINING. AND JUST A REMINDER THAT THAT CERTIFICATE MUST BE SIGNED, SCANNED, AND SUBMITTED WHEN ALLISON BO MA IS NOT IN THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE TO REACH. IT'S LIKE EVERYTHING JUST GOES LIKE ALL THIS. SO SHE STILL HASN'T GOT BACK. HE'S SAYING THAT THING HAS TO BE SIGNED, BUT OH YEAH. INCLUDING THE CARBON. CARBON. YEAH. UH, THANK YOU JESSE. EVEN THOUGH JESSE IS NO LONGER PART OF THE COMMISSION, HE GOT HIS FORM 700 CONFLICT OF INTEREST STATEMENT DONE. AND JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE CITY CLERK AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICES ARE COMMITTED TO FOLLOWING THROUGH ON REMOVING COMMISSIONERS WHO DO NOT COMPLETE THE FORM 700 OR ETHICS TRAINING ON TIME. UH, THE SAME APPLIES TO THE CITY DOING ALL THAT IT CAN TO AVOID COSTLY FINES FOR NOT COMPLETING THESE DOCUMENTS OF UP TO $5,000 FOR NON-COMPLIANCE. UM, SO EACH OF YOU, WHEN YOU SIGNED ON TO BE PART OF THE COMMISSION, ALSO SIGNED ON TO SUBMITTING THESE DOCUMENTS IN A TIMELY MANNER. GAVEL. SO WITH REGARD TO THE VETERANS BANNERS PROGRAM, WHICH WE WILL REVIEW, UH, AS AN AGENDA ITEM, UH, WE HAD 69 INQUIRIES FOR WHAT, 25 BANNER SPOTS. AND THOSE INQUIRIES ARE ON PAPER. MANY OF THEM WERE INCOMPLETE AS THEY SUBMITTED THEIR NOMINATION FORMS, BUT NOT PHOTOS OR PHOTOS AND NOT NOMINATION FORM FORMS OR SENT PHOTOS THAT WERE UNUSABLE EVEN AFTER I REACHED OUT TO THEM SEVERAL TIMES, INCLUDING OFFERING A CITY PHOTOGRAPHER TO TAKE THE PHOTOS. UM, OUR OFFICE AND OFFICES THROUGHOUT THE CITY, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE PIO, OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT, CONTINUE TO RECEIVE INQUIRIES TO THIS DAY ABOUT WHY THEY, YOU KNOW, CAN'T WE STILL SUBMIT OUR PHOTOS IN OUR APPLICATIONS? SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THERE WERE A HANDFUL OF DUPLICATES OF WITHDRAWAL THAT LEFT US WITH 41 COMPLETED, DEFINED AS A USABLE PHOTO AND A BIO FOR THE COMMITTEE TO REVIEW. AND THEN THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THIS, THIS MORNING, UH, CHRISTINA, UH, WAS PART OF A BUDGET MEETING AND FUNDING HAS BEEN LOCATED TO PRINT ADDITIONAL BANNERS. SO WE ARE NOT STUCK WITH 25. SO I WANTED TO JUST SAY HOW MANY THANK YOU. WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE DON'T NEED YET. THE EXACT AMOUNT OR HOW MANY WE WILL BE ABLE TO PRINT, UM, WE DON'T KNOW. BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT WE GOT A GREAT RESPONSE. ADDITIONAL FUNDING HAS BEEN ALLOCATED, WHICH IS FANTASTIC. AND MY HOPE IS THAT AFTER THE TOP 25 ARE REVIEWED, THAT WE'LL CONTINUE DOWN THE LIST. SO THE REMAINING TO-DOS FOR THIS BANNER PROGRAM ARE, YOU KNOW, THE PERMIT APPLICATION, A BANNER LOCATIONS FORM OF ORDER, IF I MAY, GINA MM-HMM . BECAUSE THIS IS AN AGENDA ITEM. CAN WE SAVE THAT FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE? WELL, ALSO TOO, LIKE, FOR TIME, WELL, I'LL, I'LL, I'M ALMOST DONE. SO THE, THE BANNER LOCATIONS MAP, WORKING WITH THE, THE DESIGNER, THE EDITING, THE POSTING, THE BIOS, POSSIBLY DOING A, A RIBBON CUTTING, THE MEDIA RELEASE, ET CETERA. AND THEN NOW MEMORIAL DAY PLANNING IS FULLY UNDERWAY AND I WANTED TO INVITE ALL OF YOU AGAIN THAT WE ARE HAVING PLANNING MEETINGS ON MONDAYS, UM, AT 3:30 PM ONLINE. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'RE INVITED TO THESE MEETINGS IF WE END UP IN A QUORUM SITUATION, WE'LL DEAL WITH IT WHEN WE GET IT. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PLANNING TO DO IN THE NEXT, UH, COUPLE OF WEEKS. SO MARK YOUR CALENDARS FOR THE PRESENTATION TO CITY COUNCIL ON MAY 21ST FOR MEMORIAL DAY, WE WILL BE PRESENTING A SLIDESHOW. UM, AND MARK YOUR CALENDAR FOR THE ACTUAL EVENT, WHICH IS SUNDAY, MAY 26TH, FIVE 30 TO 8:00 PM AT THE NAVY MEMORIAL. UM, LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE. WE'LL GET TO GET MORE INTO DETAIL ON THAT, 'CAUSE THAT THAT IS AN AGENDA ITEM AS WELL. SO I THINK THAT'S THE GIST OF IT. AND THEN I WILL ALSO BE TOUCHING BASE WITH EACH OF YOU ABOUT THE ANNUAL REPORT THAT'S DUE ON OUR ACTIVITIES [00:15:01] TO CITY COUNCIL ON JUNE 30TH. SO I'D LIKE TO GET INPUT ON THE SCOPE OF OUR ACTIVITIES AND WHAT WE WANNA INCLUDE IN THIS, IN THIS PRESENTATION. SO THAT'S IT. ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YEAH, CAN YOU TELL US WHO IS ACTIVE OR NOT ACTIVE ON OR COMPLETE ON THEIR TRAINING, THE FORM 700 AND ETHICS? BECAUSE I, I THINK I'M GOOD, BUT I'M NOT SURE, UM, UNLESS I'VE CONTACTED YOU OR THE CITY'S CONTACTED YOU. YOU'RE GOOD. THANKS FOR ASKING. WHAT'S THE, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT QUESTION AGAIN, CINDY? LIKE WHO'S I JUST ASKING WHO'S BEHIND OUR TRAINING? YEAH, AN UPDATE ON WHO HAS COMPLETED THE ETHICS AND WHO HAS COMPLETED THE FORM 700. I THINK IT WAS JUST, UM, MIKE AND I. OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON, UM, NO, BUT JUST FOR THE RECORD COMMISSIONER. YEAH, I NOTED. UM, S CELIA AT FIVE 19. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? UM, ON, UH, GINA'S, UH, CHAIR REPORT? NO, I'LL MOVE THAT. WE RECEIVE IN FILE GINA'S REPORT. RYAN, RYAN MAKES THE MOTION. CAN I GET A SECOND ON THE STAFF REPORT? JIM, DO YOU WANNA BE THE SECOND? SURE. I SECOND. OKAY, JIM A SECOND. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. MOTION PASSES. OKAY, LET'S GO. AND, UM, MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS, UM, HONOR OF OUR HEROES, OUR SUNSET CEREMONY. OKAY. UM, AGAIN, I CALLED FOR US, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR GETTING YOUR INPUT. UM, AND WHAT I, WHAT I NEED FROM, FROM YOU, EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT PART OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE, IS TO VOLUNTEER FOR THE BOOTH. 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, AN OFFICE OF VETERAN SUPPORT BOOTH AS WE DID LAST YEAR. UM, IF YOU HAVE IN MIND A KEYNOTE SPEAKER, BECAUSE WE WON'T HAVE THE SAME AS AS LAST YEAR, WE HAVE REQUESTED ONE THROUGH OUR CONTACTS AT FLEET WEEK. UM, IF YOU HAVE BUSINESSES IN MIND THAT WE SHOULD REACH OUT TO FOR OPPORTUNITY DRAWING ITEMS, UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT ONCE YOU GET THE INVITATION IN YOUR EMAIL THAT'S GOING OUT TO EVERYBODY ABOUT THIS, THAT YOU FOLLOW UP WITH YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER TO SEE IF THEY'RE GONNA ATTEND, UH, THE EVENT. UH, AND IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING, WE, WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, EVEN IF, IF IT'S IN CD ONE, IF CD TWO WANTS TO SAY A FEW WORDS LIKE LAST YEAR, WE COULD, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. UM, IF YOU HAVE A SUGGESTIONS FOR HONOREES, BECAUSE WE'LL PROBABLY RECOGNIZE AND HONOR A, A VETERAN FOR THEIR SERVICE IN THE COMMUNITY. AND THEN ALSO JUST KEEPING IN MIND THAT THE COMMISSION WILL BE INTRODUCED AT THE EVENT. SO IF YOU HAVE YOUR, YOUR SHIRT TO WEAR IT, UM, AND THAT THINGS ARE JUST, ARE MOVING ALONG AS FAR AS, UM, WE HAVE THE M-J-R-O-T-C FROM LAKEWOOD HIGH SCHOOL, UM, APPROVED. WE HAVE A CHAPLAIN, WE HAVE THE FLYOVERS, THE LIVE MUSIC HAS BEEN REQUESTED. WE THINK THE NAVY QUINTET WILL BE BACK THIS YEAR. WE ALSO HAVE UNIQUE THINGS LIKE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL BE SHOOTING THE WATER CANNON IN THE HARBOR, WHICH WILL BE REALLY, REALLY COOL. AND THE FLYOVERS AND THE DANCING GIRLS, LET'S NOT FORGET THOSE. JUST KIDDING. UM, SO WHAT ELSE? WE WILL HAVE THE FACE PAINTER. WE'LL HAVE THE INFORMATION BOOTH. SO IF YOU HAVE IDEAS ON WHAT ORGANIZATIONS, WHAT, WHAT COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS OR VETERANS ORGANIZATIONS SHOULD HAVE A BOOTH AT OUR EVENT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. UM, WE'RE, IT LOOKS LIKE WE WILL NOT GET THE USS LONG BEACH. UM, BUT THAT'S OKAY. I THINK IT'S A LITTLE TOO BIG FOR THE SITE. UM, AND JUST THINK OF THE WHOLE WEEK OF MEMORIAL DAY AS THE UNVEILING OF THE VETERANS BANNERS. THERE'S A COMMEMORATION AT AMERICAN GOLD STAR BANNER ON FRIDAY BEFORE. UM, SO THAT'S MAY 24TH. UH, THE VA WILL HAVE A MEMORIAL DAY EVENT EITHER ON THE 24TH. HI MIKE. HI ETTE. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD, THANKS. GOOD. OKAY. 5 23. UM, AND, UH, LA FLEET WEEK IS THAT WEEKEND AND OUR HONORING OUR HEROES EVENT. SO JUST, YOU KNOW, PLAN ON THAT LAST WEEK OF MAY, YOU KNOW, UH, BEING INVOLVED AND PRESENT IN THESE ACTIVITIES. SO IS THE TARGET SUNDAY EVENING? ARE YOU DONE WITH THE REPORT? OH, SORRY. UM, YES. MM-HMM . ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I'LL GO WITH, UM, UH, SMITTY AND THEN, UM, ANYONE ELSE THAT HAS POLICE? GO AHEAD. THE OTHER QUESTION WAS, YOU KNOW, TARGETING WAS, I KNOW LAST YEAR WE DID SUNDAY NIGHT. I THINK IT STARTED LIKE FIVE O'CLOCK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO IT'S THE SAME AS THIS TIME STILL. MM-HMM . SAME LOCATION, SAME TIME, EVERYTHING. RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FROM ANY OTHER, UM, COMMISSIONERS? UM, I HAVE, YEAH, WE GOT YOU DOWN. THANKS MIKE. UM, HOPE EVERYTHING IS WELL. UM, I JUST, UM, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE THINGS. I, UH, I KNOW IT'S A LOT. SO, UM, GINA, IF WE, AND, AND MAYBE THIS IS JUST LIKE A, LIKE [00:20:01] A RECAP OF, UM, OF THE NOTES FROM THAT SUBCOMMITTEE, IF WE COULD, UM, UM, WHO'S THE, DO WE HAVE A, WE DON'T HAVE A CHAIR ON THAT, RIGHT? NO, NO. WELL, UM, I WOULD LIKE, UM, I, I GUESS I'LL JUST FINISH MY STATEMENT TOO. I WOULD SAY IF WE COULD HAVE SOMEONE, UM, STEP UP TO BE, UM, A CHAIR ON THAT, UM, ON THAT SUBCOMMITTEE. AND THEN NOW WE CAN, INSTEAD OF HAVING IT BE JUST AGENDA ITEM, WE CAN HAVE, UM, UM, A SUB A MEMBER, UM, CHAIR IN THAT SUBCOMMITTEE TO KIND OF GIVE US LIKE A REPORT. SO IT'S LIKE A REPORT THAT'S LIKE A LONG LIST OF, YOU KNOW, OF AND I, AND I'M TRYING TO KEEP UP. AND I'VE BEEN ON THOSE, I'VE BEEN ON THOSE MEETINGS AND ON THOSE CALLS AS WELL. SO FIRST, UH, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. CAN I GO AHEAD BECAUSE I CAME, GO AHEAD. MIKE. CAN WHAT SUB COMMITTEE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? WE'RE ON, WE'RE ON, WE'RE ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YEAH. UM, THE, UM, THE MEMORIAL DAY EVENT, THE HONORING OUR HEROES, THE SUNSET CEREMONY THAT WE'RE GONNA DO. I'LL BE ON THAT COURSE, YOUR HONOR, SO, OKAY. YEAH. RIGHT. SO I WOULD LIKE, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE TO DO, WE APPROVE IT FIRST AND THEN I MAKE THE MOTION FOR US UP CHAIR? WELL, WITH THIS WE CAN MAKE THIS AN ACTION ITEM. 'CAUSE IT IS A, SO I WOULD, ITEM WOULD, SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UM, APPOINT A SUB, UM, UM, A SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIR FOR THE MEMORIAL DAY EVENT AND THEN MOVING FORWARD THAT, UM, SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIR WILL PROVIDE, UM, AN UPDATE KIND OF LIKE WE'RE DOING WITH THE BANNERS, BECAUSE THAT IS A LOT. AND JUST HAVING EVERYTHING, LIKE, JUST HAVING IT ALL THE DIFFERENT PIECES SO THAT WAY EVERYONE CAN FOLLOW WHAT IS GOING ON BECAUSE IT IS A LOT OF PIECES. GO AHEAD. MY I'M POINT OF, UM, CLARIFICATION. I'LL JUST PUT IT THAT WAY. YEAH. IS YOUR MOTION TO APPOINT A CHAIR OR IS THERE A MOTION TO CREATE THE POSITION OF A CHAIR? CHAIR FOR SOMEONE TO FILL? UH, THE MOTION IS TO, UM, APPOINT A CHAIR FOR THE, SO YOU, AS A CHAIR OF THIS, YOU GONNA APPOINT SOMEONE AS THE CHAIR OF THAT ADOP A MOTION TO, TO CREATE LET WHERE YOU GOING RIGHT? FOR US TO CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIR FOR THE, FOR THE MORE DAVID EVENT. I'LL SECOND THAT. OKAY. GOT IT. SO IS THAT GOOD? UH, CAN WE ALL VOTE? EVERYBODY IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OKAY. MOTION PASSES. SO MIKE, YOU ARE THE SUB, YOU ARE THE CHAIR. NOW. YOU, FIRST OF ALL, YOU ACCEPT IT. OH, OH YEAH. DO YOU ACCEPT IT? ? WOULD YOU LIKE TO, UM, UNDER ONE CONDITION? OH MY GOODNESS. YEAH. IF I CAN GET A, JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND BECAUSE I MISSED EVERYTHING PRIOR TO THAT. BUT SINCE IT IS AN EVENT THAT IS RIGHT UP MY ALLEY AND I FEEL SUPER COMFORTABLE, THE MEETINGS ARE MONDAYS AT THREE 30. THEY'RE WEEKLY. WAIT, SAY AGAIN? WE MEETINGS ARE MONDAY AT THREE 30. THEY'RE WEEKLY ON TEAMS ONLINE. ONLINE, UHHUH, TO DISCUSS THE UPCOMING MEMORIAL DAY EVENT, WHICH IS SET FOR THE END OF MAY. MM-HMM . MM-HMM . WE, WE NEED, UH, LOCAL, UH, ORGANIZATIONS TO HAVE BOOTH. OKAY. SO WE NEED SOMEBODY TO HELP OUT WITH THAT. MM-HMM . BUT THE ROLE OF THE CHAIR IS TO JUST KEEP IT ORGANIZED AND THEN RIGHT. KEEP THAT BALL. AND THEN YOU WOULD GIVE THE, LIKE WHEN WE WOULD COME HERE AFTERWARDS, WHAT YOU WOULD DO IS YOU WOULD JUST REPORT OUT, UM, THE, WHAT WAS DISCUSSED DURING THAT MEETING. RIGHT. COULD WHO, WHO ELSE IS ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE AS OF RIGHT NOW? JUANITA, GUS, ANTOINETTE, AND KENNETH. OKAY. AND I'M INVITING YOU TO THE MEETINGS. IF WE, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT WE'RE GONNA GO OVER QUORUM OR ANY OF THAT STUFF AT THIS POINT. GOOD NEWS. YOU ONLY HAVE TO REPORT IT ONCE 'CAUSE THAT'S NEXT MONTH. SO YEAH. YOU HAVE SIX WEEKS TO PUT TOGETHER . YEAH, I'VE DONE, AND IT'S PRETTY, IT'S PRETTY ALL, YOU KNOW, IT'S PRETTY ALL TOGETHER. BUT I THINK JUST HAVING SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IN WRITING THAT EVERYONE COULD LIKE, FOLLOW AND KIND OF SEE LIKE WHAT WE DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, HAVING LIKE THE, LIKE WHO WAS THERE, THE AGENDA, SOME OF THE, ALL THE MOVING PARTS. I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR EVERYONE. NO PROBLEM. OKAY. GOT IT. SO WE ALL VOTED. ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? QUICK RECAP. YES. CAN WE GET, WELL, SO MIKE JUST WROTE THIS, CAN WE GET A RECAP OF THE DONORS SO FAR OF THAT EVENT? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU SAID THAT THE COURT GAVE US 5,000. THAT'S RIGHT. HAVE THERE BEEN ANY OTHER DONATIONS SO FAR? NO. THERE WE GO. THAT'S YOUR RECAP OF DONATIONS. THANK YOU. YEAH. AND UM, AND ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS TOO, UM, WITH THAT, UM, MIKE IS, UH, ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS IS TRYING TO SECURE PARKING AT THAT PARKING LOT. YES. I REMEMBER THAT MADE YOUR POINT FROM LAST YEAR. MM-HMM . BECAUSE WE PUT THE SIGNS OUT AND PEOPLE [00:25:01] TOOK THEM. WELL, YEAH, I MEAN, WHAT, I'M SORRY. THEY JUST KINDA PUT THEM ASIDE. I THINK EVEN IF WE PUT THE SIGNS, BECAUSE THEY PUT THEM BACK ON THE GRASS AREA, IF WE PUT THEM LIKE IN THE FRONT OF THE PARKING SPOT WOULD BE MORE HELPFUL. MM-HMM . BUT I'LL DISCUSS THAT WITH THE CITY AS, OKAY. YES. AND I, AND I KNOW OF THIS, THIS ORGANIZATION CALLED THE COMBAT VETERANS MOTORCYCLE ASSOCIATION. DO YOU KNOW ANYBODY ON THAT? I WAS GONNA SAY, WHAT YOU CAN DO IS JUST HIRE A TOW TRUCK TO PARK THERE. AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE DRIVER. JUST LEAVE THE TRUCK THERE. . IF YOU HAVE A SIGN THAT SAYS DON'T PARK FROM FIVE TO SEVEN AND YOU SEE A TOW TRUCK THERE, YOU'RE LIKE, UH, MAYBE I DON'T WANNA PARK THERE. WELL, I'M HOPING THAT THE CMVA FOLKS MIGHT BE OUT THERE IN THEIR MOTORCYCLES. SO JUST KIND OF VISUAL. WELL, WE NEED TO SEE, THEY DIDN'T ALLOW US TO TAKE THE ENTIRE LOT. THEY STILL WANT AND THEY STILL WANT, SO WE DO NEED A PRESENCE PROBABLY OF SOMETHING. WE'LL, ON THE BOTTOM OF THE NO PARKING SIGNS, WE'LL PUT, SPONSORED BY LOCAL TIRE. SLASHERS, . YEAH. WE JUST TAKE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE EVERYBODY WHO LIKES TO HAVE FUN. RIGHT. YEAH. AND, AND I WOULD SAY, UM, ALSO, UM, JUST, UM, JUST TO, TO CLOSE THIS OUT, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE TO LIKE THE NOTICE OF THE CITY COUNCIL IF WE COULD, UM, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING, I THINK IF WE COULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSISTENT WITH OUR, UM, MESSAGING TO THE DIFFERENT CITY COUNCIL. YOU KNOW, MAYBE LIKE SENDING AN INVITE OR JUST KIND OF DO SAVE AN INVITE ALREADY. LIKE IF WE COULD TEMPLATE YET, OR IF WE COULD CHAIR, IF WE COULD CREATE SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO WE CAN SEND IT OUT TO ALL THE, BECAUSE IT IS APPROACHING REALLY FAST. MM-HMM . SO IF WE CAN DRAFT, YOU KNOW, GET SOMETHING LIKE THAT DRAFT MM-HMM . UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR COMMITTEE CAN APPROVE IT, SEND IT OUT. UM, YEAH, IT'S LIKE A CONSISTENT MESSAGING. THE ALL THE CITY COUNCIL FOLKS. I LOVE IT. AND THE ELECTEDS, UH, THE OTHER ELECTEDS AS WELL. NOT JUST THE CITY COUNCIL. OKAY, FANTASTIC. THE MOTION IN SECOND, JUST AGAIN, IT'S HAPPENING SAME PLACE. RIGHT, RIGHT. SAME PLACE. MOTION. GONNA SECOND. SHOULD GET OUR, UH, CAMERA MIND. ANY OTHER, UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS OR, UM, ANYTHING ON, UH, HONORING OUR HEROES SUNSET COMMITTEE AND, UM, I KNOW GINA ALSO, UH, ASKED FOR LIKE, SIGNUPS, UM, CHAIR. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IF YOU HAVE THAT DOWN TO SIGNUPS ROTATION FOR LIKE BOOTHS TO BE AT THE BOOTH. BOOTH TO BE AT THE BOOTH. LIKE LAST YEAR? YES. OKAY. YES. AND WE WANT OTHER LOCAL OR PARTICIPANTS ORGANIZATIONS. YES. LOCAL TIRES. SYLVIA, GO AHEAD. THE UNION, SYLVIA HAS A, SYLVIA HAS A QUESTION. UM, WILL IT BE A FLYER OR SOMETHING SENT OUT? YES, ABSOLUTELY. I'LL, I'M MEETING WITH OUR GRAPHIC DESIGNER TOMORROW TO JUST SEE WHAT WE WANNA DO TO THE EXISTING FLYER. AND WE'RE ALSO, BECAUSE THE PORT IS THE LEAD SPONSOR, WE WANNA, YOU KNOW, NAVIGATE GETTING THEIR LOGO ON IT AND GETTING THOSE, GETTING IT APPROVED BECAUSE WE'LL PROBABLY DO A SAVE THE DATE AND THEN A MORE FORMAL FLYER BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO HAVE AT LEAST MAYBE TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE EVENT SO I CAN GIVE IT TO CITY COUNCIL, TO MY COUNCIL MEMBER. 'CAUSE THEN HE NEEDS IT A FEW DAYS BEFORE HIS NEWSLETTER. AT LEAST HOPEFULLY A MONTH BEFORE. LIKE HOW QUICKLY CAN WE GET THOSE FLYERS TURNED AROUND? UH, I THINK A DIGITAL COPY, JUST, JUST GIVING YOU THE HEADS UP IF THE PORT'S LOGO GOES ON IT, IT ADDS A DIMENSION OF APPROVALS, BUT I RIGHT. YEAH. WHICH I TOTALLY WANT THAT TO HAPPEN TOO. UM, IF NEEDED, I CAN HELP WITH THE DESIGN OF IT. LIKE ON CANVA, WE, WE ARE, WE'RE JUST GONNA USE LAST YEAR'S DESIGN. WE'RE GONNA TRY TO, YOU KNOW, NOT REINVENT THE WHEEL. YEAH, I'D LOVE TO. PERFECT. OKAY. ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS, ANY OTHER POINTS OF CLARIFICATION? IF NOT, WE WILL, UM, MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS, I CAN'T SEE WHERE IT IS NOW. AND THIS IS, UM, UM, AN UPDATE FROM THE BANNER SUBCOMMITTEE, UM, AND OUR BANNERS PROGRAM. I'LL TURN THIS OVER TO YOU. UM, CHAIR. THANK YOU CHAIR. UHM. SO THANK YOU. SO, UM, AS GINA MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, WE HAD ROUGHLY 69 APPLICATIONS, UM, IN THAT SHORT THREE WEEK WINDOW, UM, FOR PEOPLE TO FILL OUT THE APPLICATION AND GET THEIR, UH, PICTURES SUBMITTED. UH, ONLY 41 PEOPLE WERE SUCCESS, SUCCESSFUL IN DOING BOTH. SO, UM, 42 THROUGH 69 EITHER WAS A DUPLICATE OR WAS, UM, INCOMPLETE OR, UH, WITHDREW THEIR APPLICATION ALTOGETHER. UM, SO OUR AD HOC COMMITTEE GOT TOGETHER LAST WEEKEND AND CAME TOGETHER AND REVIEWED, UH, 41 SUBMISSIONS, UH, TO SEE, UH, AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMITTEE ON WHAT THEY WANT TO, UH, PUSH THROUGH. UH, I DON'T HAVE NAMES, I ONLY HAVE NUMBERS TO GIVE YOU RIGHT NOW. SO, UM, AND I SENT IT TO THE CHAIR SO THAT OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN GIVE WITH GINA SO THAT YOU CAN PUT THOSE IN THERE. UM, OF, SO JUST REMEMBER THERE'S 25, UH, SPOTS AVAILABLE. WE FOUND 26 QUALIFIED. UM, [00:30:01] SO MEANING THERE IS ONE RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY ON THE WAIT LIST. UM, AND OUR CRITERIA THAT WE WENT WITH, UM, WAS THAT THEY HAD A CLEAR MILITARY SERVICE, MEANING THERE WASN'T ANY LIKE RED FLAGS THAT POPPED OUT TO US WHEN WE READ THEIR MILITARY HISTORY. UM, 'CAUSE SOMETIMES PEOPLE WILL MAKE UP STORIES AND THAT'S VERY COMMON. UM, THE SECOND ONE IS A CLEAR CONNECTION TO LONG BEACH. WHAT WE'RE REALLY HOPING FOR IS TO SEE SOME, EITHER THE CONNECTION THERE AND OR SERVICE TO LONG BEACH. WHAT HAVE THEY DONE AFTER, UH, THEIR MILITARY SERVICE? OH, EXCUSE ME. AND THEN THAT WAS THE THIRD ONE IS THE SERVICE TO COMMUNITY. SO ONCE THEY GOT OUT THE MILITARY, WHAT DID THEY DO TO SUPPORT THEIR COMMUNITY? UH, IF THERE WAS A TIEBREAKER, THERE REALLY WASN'T. UH, WE KIND OF USED THE ERA OF SERVICE. UM, AND THEN ACTUALLY WE, IT'S ALSO THE SUBMISSION TIMELINE. SO THE, THE WHAT SERVICE? WELL, HOLD ON A SECOND. SO AFTER THE REPORT WILL, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAID. YES. OKAY. IT WAS, YEAH, SO IT'S THE ERA OF SERVICE. OH YEAH. SO WHETHER THEY'RE WORLD WAR II, VIETNAM, KOREA, UM, OAF, THAT KIND OF STUFF. I, I, I HEARD AREA. THAT'S MY WHAT. AND SO, UH, WELL IT KIND OF IS AREA, RIGHT? SO, UM, AND THEN LASTLY IS THE TIMELINE. SO WHO SUBMITTED FIRST? SO IF THERE WAS REALLY TRULY A TIEBREAKER, IT WAS MORE SO WHO SUBMITTED FIRST AND THEN THAT'S WHY, UM, ACTUALLY I BELIEVE IT IS 41 IS OUR WAIT LIST PERSON. SO, UM, I DON'T HAVE TO SEND OUT TO EVERYONE, BUT JUST TO GET YOU THE NUMBERS, IT'S 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, UH, 8, 9, 11, 12, 13. AND I'LL TELL YOU THIS LATER. UH, 16, 17, 18, 23, 24, 25, 27, 28, 31, 32, 33, 3, 4, 3, 5, 40 WITH A WAIT LIST OF 41. SO THOSE ARE OUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL FOR BANNERS WHEN YOU NEED TO ASK TODAY. ANY, ANY, ANY QUESTIONS, MIKE? UH, YEAH, I WAS JUST ASKING WHEN HE NEEDS US TO DO THAT. AND HE SAID, SO I WAS GONNA SAY I BACK UP. SO THERE IS A TIMELINE. SO THE GOAL OF THIS IS WE WANT TO APPROVE, UH, THE VETERANS SELECTED BY TODAY'S MEETING. SO THAT WAY OUR NEXT GOAL, UM, IN BETWEEN THIS MEETING AND OUR NEXT MEETING IS WE PLAN TO HAVE, UH, SUBMIT TO OUR BANNER, UM, PRODUCER OR, UM, I GUESS COMPANY TO PRINT. SO THAT WAY WE ARE READY TO GO AND HAVE THEM INSTALLED, UH, PRIOR TO MEMORIAL DAY, WHICH IS THE, THE ASTERISK ON THE FUNDING THAT WE GOT FROM CITY COUNCIL. SO, UM, AFTER TODAY, ONCE WE SELECT, WE WILL GET, FINALIZE THE, THE PERMITS, FINALIZE THE PRINTING FROM THE, THE VENDOR, AND THEN SCHEDULE AN INSTALL DAY AS WELL TOO. AND THEN CONTINUE OUR PLANNING OF WHATEVER WE'RE DOING FOR THE DOG AND PONY SHOW. SO THAT I THINK THAT'S STILL YET TO BE DETERMINED. SO ANY OTHER QUE RYAN AND THEN SYLVIA, I MEAN MIKE AND SYLVIA. SORRY, I NEED GLASSES. YOU HAD GLASSES. IT'S BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE PLASTIC STILL ON, YOU GOTTA REMOVE YEAH, IT'S THE GLARE. IT'S THE GLARE. OKAY. UM, SO I WAS WONDERING, WELL, THINKING MAYBE THIS WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO MARKET THE BANNER PROGRAM AT THE, UM, MEMORIAL DAY EVENT AND TO SEE IF WE, I KNOW IT'S A LONG, UH, I'M SORRY IT'S A ONE YEAR RUN FOR THIS, BUT STILL LIKE TO PUT IT OUT THERE AND FOR PEOPLE TO BE AWARE OF, I THINK WOULD BE A WONDERFUL THING. SO IF WE CAN GET MAYBE FLYERS WITH THE QR CODE THAT GOES SOMEWHERE OR YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD REALLY, UM, ALLOW US TO CAPTURE IS, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF, UH, VETERANS THAT WE DIDN'T BEFORE AND KIND OF START THAT WAY. SO, SYLVIA, GO AHEAD. OKAY. OKAY. SO, UM, I DID GO ON ON OUR WEBSITE TO FIND OUT WHAT THE CRITERIA WAS. I DID FLIP FLOP A LITTLE BIT BACK AND FORTH, BUT I GOT THE GIST IF THEY, EITHER THEY LIVE OR THEY WORK IN IN LONG BEACH OR THEY SERVED OR LONG BEACH ARE THE THREE THINGS THAT I GOT OUT. SO ANY CONNECTION. SO YOU'D BE LIVE, UH, EDUCATED, WORKED, UH, STATIONED, DEPLOYED, UM, ALL, I MEAN, BASICALLY THOSE WERE THE ONES THAT WE LISTED ON THE APPLICATION WERE JUST KIND OF LIKE AN EXAMPLE OF, BUT NOT AN INCLUSIVE LIST. OKAY. SO OF THE GENERAL, UM, REQUIREMENTS, WHAT WOULD BE THE VARIABLE THAT WOULD TIP OFF OR WIN OVER THAT, [00:35:01] THAT 25TH APPLICANT? 'CAUSE YOU HAVE 26TH, RIGHT? SO OF THE, THAT OF THE 25TH, WHICH IS THE MOST, UH, I GUESS STRIKING VARIABLE THAT YOU SAID, OKAY, THIS PERSON JUST DEFINITELY HAS TO BE AMONG THE 25 AND THE 26 HAS TO WAIT. NOW HERE IT IS MY OPINION. IF YOU HAD, IF YOU HAVE WORLD WAR II VETERANS IN THAT STACK, ARE THERE WORLD WAR II VETERANS? I BELIEVE THERE'S A COUPLE, YEAH. OKAY. ARE ANY OF THOSE PART OF THE 25? I BELIEVE SO. ARE THEY BOTH? OKAY. MY THING IS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOPEFULLY ALL THE WORLD WARI VETERANS ARE IN THE FIRST 25 AND IF THEY MISS A REQUIREMENT TO GO BACK AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS IS WHAT WE NEED FROM YOU. UH, WE WOULD REALLY LIKE YOU TO BE IN THE FIRST, BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT BE AROUND TO SEE IT THE SECOND TIME AROUND. THEY, AND THEY MAY NOT BE ALIVE TO SEE IT TODAY EITHER, SO. EXACTLY. BUT, UM, BUT THAT IF THEY'RE ALIVE NOW, THIS WILL BE MY UNDERSTANDING IS MOST OF THE WORLD WAR II SUBMISSIONS ARE POST HOLD ON ONE SECOND. SYLVIA, ARE YOU DONE WITH YOUR WELL, I KNOW, BUT I'M JUST SAYING I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DONE. MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PERSON ON JUAN, YOU'RE REALLY IMPRESSED. YOU. I'M NOT, I'M TRYING TO ASK RYAN TO HOLD OFF UNTIL WE'RE DONE WITH YOUR COMMENT, BUT I'M STILL ON A DIALOGUE HERE, , AND I'M TRYING TO HELP YOU WITH YOUR DIALOGUE. UM, I DON'T NEED THE HELP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DON'T NEED THE HELP TO BE PUSHED THROUGH. THANK YOU. SO AGAIN, BECAUSE THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. BETTER, I REALLY LIKE THIS AND I UNDERSTAND. SO I'M TRYING TO HOLD OFF UNTIL WE'RE DONE WITH YOUR DISCUSSION. LEMME HEAR WHAT, SYLVIA, PLEASE FINISH YOUR ANSWERING, ASKING YOUR QUESTION. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THERE'S, I GAVE YOU THE, THE CRITERIA THAT THAT HOC REVIEWED. SO THE FIRST ONE IS, WHAT DID IT DO IN THE MILITARY, RIGHT? SO ANYTHING THAT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WAS LIKE IF YOU GET A MEDAL HONOR, A PURPLE HEART OR DISTINGUISHED FOWLER OR SOME, YOU KNOW, THOSE REALLY HIGH HONOR AWARDS, THAT'S LIKE A HIGH MARK, RIGHT? THE SECOND ONE IS, WHAT DID YOU DO WHILE IN LONG BEACH? AND THE LAST ONE IS, WHAT DID YOU DO AFTER YOU LEFT SERVICE? WHAT DID YOU GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY? YEAH. SO THOSE ARE WHAT WE WERE USING TO DECIPHER YEAH. UH, BETWEEN THE 41 APPLICANTS THAT WERE QUALIFIED, RIGHT? THEY, THEY PUT A BIO AND HAD A PHOTO. SO THAT'S HOW WE BROKE IT DOWN TO HAVE 26, I'LL CALL 'EM FULLY QUALIFIED AND THEN THE REMAINDER ARE PARTIALLY QUALIFIED. RIGHT. OKAY. UM, SO A LOT OF 'EM, UM, DID GREAT IN THEIR SERVICE, BUT THEY JUST DIDN'T GIVE A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT. SO WE HAD ONE WILL THAT SAID LIKE, I WAS TOLD TO FILL THIS OUT, SO I FILLED THIS OUT. . RIGHT. SO IT'S LIKE, WELL THAT DOESN'T TELL US ANYTHING ABOUT WHY YOU SHOULD HAVE A BANNER. SO PEOPLE LIKE THAT, WE REALLY DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, RATE VERY HIGH MM-HMM . UM, AND WE PRIORITIZED ANOTHER VETERAN THAT DESCRIBED THEIR SERVICE BOTH IN THE MILITARY AND OUT OF THE MILITARY AS A HIGHER POSITION. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON TODAY, BE ON THAT LIST. CORRECT. SO THOSE, THOSE, UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T HAVE ANY NAMES FOR ANY IDENTIFIED INFORMATION. SO WE'RE TRYING, UH, I WAS TOLD LAST COMMISSION MEETING, WE WANT TO DO A, A KIND OF DOUBLE BLIND, UH, REVIEW. SO TO PREVENT AS MUCH, UM, BIASES AS POSSIBLE. UM, AND I WAS GONNA SAY FULL DISCLOSURE IN THERE, I DID HAVE A SUBMISSION OF AS WELL IN THERE, AND I DID RECUSE MYSELF DURING THAT CONVERSATION. SO I WAS NOT INVOLVED WHATSOEVER WHEN MY SUBMISSION CAME UP. MM-HMM . UM, SO WE, LIKE I SAID, WE DID HAVE 26 QUALIFIED, SO THERE'S ONE ON THE WAITING LIST UNLESS WE CAN GET MORE MONEY. OKAY. UH, THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE FOUND INCOMPLETE, WHETHER THEY DIDN'T SUBMIT A BIO OR DIDN'T SUBMIT A USABLE PHOTO OR WHATEVER ELSE. SO YOU'RE CONFIDENT WITH THE FIRST 25 THAT WERE SELECTED ARE REALLY GOOD QUAL, UH, FOR THE BANNER PROGRAM? CORRECT. THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE HIGHEST, THEY'RE THE TOP 25 OF THE LIST FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW. OKAY. FROM THE AD HOC COMMITTEE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AND IT, THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS THERE'S A DIVERSITY OF A, SO, UM, AND THAT'S WHY WE DID PUT ON THERE THAT A SERVICE IS, IT'S A MINOR, UH, REVIEW. LIKE IT'S NOT A MAJOR FACTOR. WE'RE NOT SAYING IF YOU'RE WORLD WAR II, YOU AUTOMATICALLY QUALIFY THAT 'CAUSE THAT'S NOT FAIR. UH, RIGHT. SO WHAT WE DID DO IS SAY, HEY, IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE A WORLD WAR II AND YOU HAVE AN OIF GUY OR THEY, AND THEY'RE EQUALLY COMPARABLE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT OF OPERATION, THAT'S MY ERA. YEAH. OPERATION ERA. SO OPERATION IRAQ, FREEDOM, SO THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT GOT DEPLOYED TO IRAQ AND THEN YOU HAVE ENDURING FREEDOM, WHICH IS AFGHANISTAN. OKAY. UM, SO IF YOU HAD THOSE TWO ARROWS TOGETHER, WE WOULD, IF THEY'RE VERY CLOSELY MATCHED, WE WOULD GIVE IT TO THE, THE OLDER GENERATION. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER, UM, QUESTION? I'LL GO TO RYAN AND THEN I'LL GO TO KEN, DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT? NO, I SAID, OKAY KEN, JUST A REQUEST THAT WHILE YOU'RE IN THE, IN THE THICK OF IT, THAT YOU TAKE A MOMENT TO DOCUMENT THE PROCESS SO THAT NEXT YEAR WHEN WE HAVE TO DO THIS AGAIN, WE CAN GO TO YOUR GUIDANCE. YEAH. BUT YOU'VE ALREADY, YOU'VE ALREADY MADE ALL THE, HAD ALL THE GOOD POINTS AND THE BAD [00:40:01] POINTS AND YOU KNOW WHAT THE BEST WAY TO DO THIS IS. SO IF YOU COULD GIVE US AN OUTLINE OF HOW TO DO IT SO THAT NEXT YEAR WHEN THIS HAPPENS AND SOMEONE'S IN OR ELSE IS IN YOUR CHAIR, THEY CAN JUST HAND IT TO 'EM AND GO, OKAY, THIS IS HOW YOU DO IT. THEY GO, OH COOL. YEAH, I AGREE WITH YOU. AND THAT WAS THE PLAN. UM, IT'S, AS WE ALL KNOW, ALL THE GOOD PLANS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, HAVE HOLES. SO WHAT, THERE'S A LOT THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW. UM, AND A LOT OF THE BIG ONES IS TIMING WISE. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I WISH I HAD A LOT MORE TIME TO REALLY FULLY DOCUMENT EVERYTHING, BUT I'M GONNA DO MY BEST TO DOCUMENT EVERYTHING I CAN AND HEAD TO THEM. YEAH. WHATEVER YOU CAN GIVE TO THE NEXT PERSON WHO'S GOT THAT JOB WILL BE AWESOME. 'CAUSE THEN THEY'RE NOT STARTING FROM ZERO, THEY'RE STARTING FROM NINE AND THEY CAN FILL IN THE LITTLE BLANKS AND BOOM, WE GET THIS DONE. AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO MAKE THE SAME ERRORS THAT YOU HAD TO GO THROUGH 'CAUSE YOU DIDN'T KNOW YOU DID SOMETHING YOU'VE NEVER DONE BEFORE. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER, UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR, UM, UH, IF I, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? WELL, YEAH, I JUST WANT TO WAIT, I'M SORRY. HOLD ON ONE SECOND, JIM. I'LL LET, I'LL LET UM, JIM GO FIRST AND THEN I'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. UH, JOSH'S CRITERIA SOUNDS EXCELLENT TO ME. THE ONE THING IS I'M, I'M A VETERAN AND I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THIS WAS GOING ON UNTIL I ATTENDED, YOU KNOW, LAST MONTH'S MEETING. SO HOW DID WE PUBLICIZE IT? YOU KNOW, I READ THE NEWSPAPER EVERY DAY. I'M ONLINE. MM-HMM . UM, BUT I WASN'T AWARE OF THIS PROGRAM UNTIL, WHAT, THREE WEEKS AGO? SO, SO I, I COULD ANSWER THAT SOMEWHAT. SO I WENT TO OUR ONLY AMERICAN LEGION AND GAVE THEM A BUNCH OF FLYERS TO PASS OUT. THAT WAS THE FIRST THING I DID. UH, THE NEXT PLACE I WAS GOING TO IS GOING TO EVERY SOCIAL BUSINESS THAT I FREQUENT, WHICH IS TYPICALLY BREWERIES. RIGHT. SO MOST EVERY BREWERY IN THE LONG BEACH HAD IT. I ALSO ADVERTISED IT WITH MY CITY COUNCIL MEMBER. UNFORTUNATELY FOR YOU IS YOUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBER PROBABLY WASN'T NOTIFIED 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THIS COMMISSION ON THAT IN THAT DISTRICT. YEAH. SO THAT WAS DEFINITELY AN OVERSIGHT ON OUR SITE. SO, UH, WE PROBABLY COULD HAVE DONE BETTER WITH THAT. AT LEAST HAD THE MAYOR OR SOMETHING PUT SOMETHING OUT. UM, BUT WE TRY TO DO AS MUCH ADVERTISEMENT AS POSSIBLE. NO, I I JUST, FOR WHATEVER REASON I MISSED IT OR I WASN'T BEING, WELL IT PROBABLY, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THE APPLICATION WINDOW IS ONLY OPEN FOR THREE WEEKS. YEAH. SO IT WAS A VERY SHORT TURNAROUND TIME. SO NEXT YEAR, HOPEFULLY WE CAN MAKE THAT A LOT LONGER. UH, SO THAT WAY WE COULD GET MORE APPLICANT AND THAT, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I DON'T WANT MORE ANY APP. I DON'T WANT S BUT I WANT PEOPLE TO BE AWARE OF IT. RIGHT. YEAH. SO SINCE MOST OF THE COMMITTEE IS TERMING OUT RIGHT THEN OH, I, THERE'LL BE A GOOD CHANCE I MIGHT BE ON IT NEXT YEAR. IF YOU VOLUNTEER FOR, YOU'LL BE ON IT. . HE'S ONE. HOLD ON. UM, I'LL GO TO GINA AND THEN I'LL GO TO, UM, AFTER THAT I'LL OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY JIM, THAT, UM, WE DID A MEDIA RELEASE. SO THE ME WHO PICKS UP THE MEDIA RELEASE, IT DID GO OUT TO, YOU KNOW, THE PRESS TELEGRAM AND THE LONG BEACH POST AND THE LONG BEACH BUSINESS JOURNAL AND GRON GAZETTE AND ALL THE LITTLE PUBLICATIONS. WHETHER OR NOT THEY RAN IT IN THEIR CALENDARS. I DON'T REALLY KNOW. I I READ EVERY ONE OF THOSE PUBLICATIONS. YEAH. AND I DIDN'T SEE IT SO AMAZING. UM, AND THEN WE ALSO DID, UH, IT WAS, IT WAS ON SOCIAL MEDIA, IT WAS ON THE CITY'S PAGE. THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S PAGE INDIVIDUAL, UH, UH, OR VETERANS AND ORGANIZATIONS REPOSTED IT ON THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA. YEAH. WHAT ELSE? UH, IT WENT OUT IN MULTIPLE COUNCIL NEWSLETTERS, UM, BECAUSE WE SENT IT TO ALL THE COUNCIL NEWSLETTERS. BUT THE AMAZING THING IS THAT 22 APPLICATIONS CAME IN THE LAST DAY. SO IT WAS, EVERYBODY WAS LAST A LOT OF LAST MINUTE. AND WE, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, WE ARE CONTINUING TO GET PEOPLE ASKING FOR SPECIAL PRIVILEGES. LIKE, HEY, I KNOW THE DEADLINE WAS SUCH AND SUCH, BUT SO WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL. THERE'S ALWAYS, THERE'S ALWAYS NEXT YEAR. RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. I HAVE, UM, KEN, I'LL GO, UM, JUST A FEW MORE COMMENTS. IF EVERYBODY COULD JUST, WE COULD JUST HAVE EVERYONE GET THEIR COMMENTS OUT AND THEN WE'LL GO AROUND THE ROOM, OPEN IT UP AND THEN UM, ANTOINETTE MOVE UP. NO, I'LL GO BACK TO KEN FIRST AND THEN I'M ETTE. OKAY. THEN I'LL COMMENT AND THEN I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. SINCE THE CITY BUDGET PROCESS HAS ALREADY PASSED TO THE NEXT YEAR, MOST LIKELY IS THERE MONEY IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET FOR THIS PROGRAM? UH, POINT OF CLARIFICATION, IF WE COULD JUST STICK TO THE AGENDA ITEM. 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE STILL ON THE BANNERS PROGRAM NEXT YEAR. GO AHEAD RYAN. DID YOU STILL JUST KEEP TRYING TO GET THE BUDGET? UM, GO AHEAD KEN. I SAID WHAT I HAD TO SAY. JUST ANYBODY KNEW THAT WHETHER THAT ANSWER, WHETHER IT'S, CAN YOU SAY IT AGAIN? I DIDN'T HEAR YOU. SURE. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT IF IT'S, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT FOR NEXT YEAR. IS THAT EVEN IN THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR REQUEST? I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THE BUDGET WHEN WAS SO FOR THE, FOR THE BUDGET. SO WE, THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE SENT IN THEIR REQUESTS, BUT WE WON'T KNOW WHAT'S MADE IT [00:45:01] TO WHAT MADE IT PAST THAT. YEAH. SO WAS IT IN A REQUEST? UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF THIS YEAR'S, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS A STRUCTURAL BUDGET CHANGE FOR ONGOING YEARS OR NOT. SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO AND THEN REPORT BACK. THAT'S FINE. UM, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK INTO, SEE IF IT WAS IN THE BUDGET FOR MULTIPLE YEARS. UM, BUT WE ARE STILL, AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, WE ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF CREATING THE CITY'S BUDGET. OKAY. SO WE'RE STILL VERY MUCH OF THINGS AND PROBABLY I WOULD ASSUME IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL MAYBE AROUND SEPTEMBER, AUGUST. OKAY. THAT'S IT. SORRY, JUST ONE MORE CLARIFICATION. IT'S ALSO IN THE SPECIAL EVENTS CORRECT. IN THE CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET. SO THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING WE'LL THAT'S WHY NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE BECAUSE IT'S NOT A HEALTH DEPARTMENT BUDGET ITEM. SO, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY FIND OUT FOR YOU. OKAY. ANY, UM, RYAN, I'M MIKE. I'LL GO AHEAD AND I WILL MAKE MY LAST COMMENT. I'M GONNA OPEN IT UP FOR A PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON, MIKE. OKAY. UM, MY QUESTION IS, DID WE FIND OUT HOW MUCH IT COSTS FOR EACH BANNER? MM-HMM . YES. OKAY. SO IF SO, COULD WE, LET'S SAY WE FIND THE 25, BUT CAN WE OFFER THE 26 PERSON THAT WE THINK IS QUALIFIED? LIKE, HEY, HERE'S WHAT'S GOING ON. MAYBE DO YOU, DO YOU WANT TO PAY FOR IT? SO, OH, YOU WERE A LITTLE BIT LATER. SO, UH, TO ADDRESS YOUR COMMENT, UH, GINA DID STATE EARLIER IN THE MEETING THAT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT MORE FUNDING COULD BECOME AVAILABLE. OKAY. UH, WHICH WOULD INCREASE OUR NUMBER OF BANNERS FROM 25 TO QUESTION MARK. GOT IT. UM, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID IS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN RE-LOOK AT SOME OF THE APPLICATIONS THAT WERE QUALIFIED. UM, I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THE ONES THAT WERE INCOMPLETE, THAT WERE MISSING A PHOTO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR BIO. UM, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION. AND WHEN I WAS TALKING TO GINA TODAY, THAT WAS I GUESS, UM, UH, OMISSION, ACCIDENTAL OMISSION. MM-HMM . UM, SO IT'D BE NICE TO KIND OF SEE WHAT WE MISSED OUT ON, ON THAT FIRST ROUND. BUT WE DO HAVE TO APPROVE OF THE FIRST 25 TO AT LEAST GET THOSE DONE AND PUSHED FORWARD. RIGHT. TO MEET OUR TIMELINE. BUT WE'RE SAYING THAT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF GETTING MORE MONEY. THERE WILL BE MORE FUNDING, THERE IS GOING TO BE MORE FUNDING AS AS TO HOW MUCH FUNDING AND HOW MANY MORE BANNERS WE CAN DO. WE KNOW THAT, UH, A FIVE BANNERS WILL COST ABOUT A THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE. OKAY. SO THEY DO 'EM IN GROUPS OF FIVE, 200 BUCKS EACH, RIGHT. TWO 50. WELL, BUT YOU CAN ORDER TWO 50, ONLY ORDER THEM IN FIVE. THAT'S RIGHT. TO GET THAT. GOT. OKAY. SO, SO WITH THAT, UM, NOW BRINGS A QUESTION. IF WE BRING ON MORE BANNERS, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH POLLS OR, SO NOW ARE WE LOOKING AT A DOUBLE A DOUBLE? YEAH, EXACTLY. A DOUBLE POLL. IT'S MORE COMPLEX. SO WE WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. I, WE PROBABLY HAVE A CONVERSATION NOW. YEAH. SO WE BRING TO THE AD HOC, BUT SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AD HOC, TO HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE THAT DECISION WHETHER WE DO A DOUBLE POLE, UH, DOUBLE BANNER POLL OR IF WE CONTINUE DOWN CARSON STREET ON HARTWELL PARK. SO RIGHT NOW, THE BANNERS THAT THE POLES, UH, LOCATION, UH, IS IN BETWEEN CLARK AND BELLFLOWER ON BOTH SIDES OF CARSON STREET. UH, BECAUSE BOTH SIDES ARE CITY OF LONG BEACH. ONCE YOU PASS BELLFLOWER GOING EAST, ONLY THE SOUTH SIDE OF CARSON IS UH, LONG BEACH. 'CAUSE THE NORTH SIDE IS LAKEWOOD. RIGHT. SO THAT'S, RIGHT NOW I THINK THERE WAS, UH, IT 21 HOLES 2020. SO 23, UH, IN BETWEEN THAT BLOCK OF CARSON OF, OF BELLFLOWER AND CLARK. UM, SO IF WE MOVE DOWN, UH, GO FARTHER DOWN CARSON GOING EAST, UM, THERE IS MORE POLES AVAILABLE. UM, I MEAN THAT'S HEADED TOWARDS LIKE THE LITTLE LEAGUE AREA AND IT IS LIKE LITTLE LEAGUE SEASON RIGHT NOW. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET BANNERS EITHER. I DON'T KNOW WHERE, UM, WHAT, WHAT I WAS GONNA ADD IS THAT WE WILL, WE WILL DEPEND ON SPECIAL EVENTS. SPECIAL EVENTS WILL SAY HERE'S A GOOD ANOTHER LOCATION. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO IT IT, WE CAN SUGGEST AND WE CERTAINLY WILL FOR THOSE FIRST 25, BUT WE'LL PROBABLY BE DEPENDENT IN SOME WAYS ON SPECIAL EVENTS TO GIVE US THE NEXT BEST LOCATION. YEAH. BECAUSE, BECAUSE WE'RE IN SUCH A TIGHT TIMEFRAME. I WAS GONNA SAY, GOING ON CARSON GOING WEST IS THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND THEY HAVE ALL THE POLL RESERVATIONS ALREADY. SO WE, WE, THAT BASICALLY IS LIKE A BARRIER FOR US. YEAH. WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BE CONTINUOUS THERE OR, UH, I THINK THEY EVEN HAVE DOWN CLARK AS WELL TOO. SO CAN'T DO THAT EITHER. SO ALSO, [00:50:01] SO MY DISCUSSION IS NOW WITH THERE BEING EXTRA FUNDING, UM, POSSIBLE EXTRA FUNDING IS LOOKING AT SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT SUBMITTED THEIR APPLICATION AND THAT NEED TO, UH, BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK AND SUBMIT A, WHATEVER THEIR DEFICIENCY WAS TO SUBMIT A COMPLETE APPLICATION. I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE ON THE INCOMPLETE. UM, FIRST CHRISTINA, UM, THE ONE THING I'D LIKE TO JUST IN THAT IS CAPACITY. SO THE, THE TIME THAT GINA HAS TAKEN TO FOLLOW UP WITH ALL OF THOSE CANDIDATES AT LEAST THREE TIMES IN THEIR PHONE CALL, EMAIL, OR BOTH, UM, TAKES UP AN EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF HER TIME AND NOW MOVING INTO MEMORIAL DAY. SO WE REALLY WANNA BE COGNIZANT OF THAT PROCESS CONSIDERING WE HAVE FOLKS WHO DID EVERYTHING ON TIME, WERE ABLE TO GET THE THINGS IN. AND IT'S NOT THAT THERE'S A SHORTAGE OF THAT, SO I DO WANNA JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE THAT THERE IS A CAPACITY ISSUE. MM-HMM . UM, ALSO THE TIMING. SO IF WE ARE SET ON GETTING MEMORIAL DAY AND THESE UP, THEY NEED TO GO TO THE PRINTER BY ABOUT THE 22ND BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO DO ALL OF THEIR THINGS. WE NEED TO GET THEM BACK AND MAKE SURE THAT EACH OF THE APPLICANTS SEE IT AND APPROVE AND MAKE SURE THEIR NAMES ARE SPELLED CORRECT, THAT THEY'RE OKAY WITH THAT PICTURE THE WAY IT'S LOOKING. SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT VERY, JUST EVERYONE'S AWARE IF I, I CAN GO FIRST SUBMITTING, I JUST WANNA SAY, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE, UM, EVERYONE THAT SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO OVERCOME THEIR DEFICIENCIES BECAUSE I MARK, GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY, I I, I ASKED, UH, I ASKED ONE IN PARTICULAR AND THAT PERSON WAS NOT CONTACTED UNLESS IT WAS AT THE DEADLINE BECAUSE WE ARE ALSO OFF. I'M SAYING I UNDERSTAND, BUT AS LONG AS IT WAS SUBMITTED BY THE DEADLINE, I THINK THOSE APPLICANTS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AND GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMPLETE THEIR APPLICATION, JUST LIKE OTHER PEOPLE, IT SHOULD BE CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD. I, I KNOW EXAMPLE OF ONE PERSON THAT, UH, APPLIED AND WAS NEVER CONTACTED AFTERWARDS AND TOLD THAT THEIR PHOTO WAS NOT USABLE. UM, AND FULL TRANSPARENCY, THAT WAS MY FATHER WAS THE ONE APPLIED ON BEHALF OF MY GRANDFATHER. UM, AND I ASKED MY FATHER, HEY, DID YOU GET A FOLLOW UP? WHAT I DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS? AND HE SAID, DID YOU SUBMIT? I SAID, DID YOU SUBMIT IT ON TIME SUBMITTED ON THE 23RD, I BELIEVE, WHICH IS BEFORE THE DEADLINE AND WAS NEVER CONTACTED? NO EMAIL FORM, NO PHONE CALL. UH, THERE WAS, GINA DID SEND ME AN EMAIL, BUT I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, IS I WASN'T EVEN THINKING ABOUT THAT. I, I SENT IT TO THE CAUSE EMAIL AS WELL. SO I, I HAVE DOCUMENTATION OF, OF EVERYTHING I SENT, I FORWARDED THE ONE I SENT TO YOUR FATHER AS WELL. THE ONE YOU SENT ME WAS MY EMAIL TO YOU. SO, OR YOUR EMAIL TO ME. EXCUSE ME. WHAT? THAT'S WHAT YOU SENT ME. I DID NOT SEE ANY OTHER EVIDENCE. OKAY. WELL, WE'LL WE'LL TALK OFFLINE, BUT I DID, I DID SEND IT TO YOUR FATHER. BUT, SO THAT'S THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING PRIOR ABOUT PEOPLE THAT ARE TECHNOLOGY TECHNOLOGICALLY CHALLENGED. YEP. AND MY FATHER IS VERY MUCH INTO THAT CATEGORY. SO HE STRUGGLED. SO WHEN HE SAID THAT THE CRITERIA IS 300 DPI, HE TOOK THE PHOTO, WENT TO STAPLES, TOLD HIM THIS IS WHAT I NEED. THEY SENT HIM AN EMAIL. HE LITERALLY JUST FORWARDED THAT EMAIL 'CAUSE MY LITTLE BROTHER HELPED HIM OUT AND SAID, HOW DO I DO THIS? FORWARD THAT EMAIL ALONG. RIGHT. SO FROM HIM THAT HE THOUGHT IT WAS DONE AND THERE WAS LIKE, WHEN I ASKED HIM, DID YOU SEND ANYTHING? BUT HE'S NOT CHECKING EMAIL EVERY DAY. HE DOESN'T HAVE EMAIL ATTACHED TO HIS PHONE, RIGHT? YEP. SO FOR HIM, EMAIL IS LIKE, UH, YOU GOTTA TELL ME YOU SENT ME AN EMAIL OR I'M NOT GONNA CHECK IT. RIGHT. SO FOR ME, THAT'S NOT A FAIR THING TO BE FOUND IN INVALID BECAUSE HE DIDN'T KNOW THAT HE DIDN'T MEET THE CRITERIA, RIGHT? MM-HMM . SO THAT'S JUST MY 2 CENTS. AND IN SOME OF, AND ON THE OTHER, IN THE EXCEL SHEET, UH, ON THE COMPLETED LIST, THERE WAS, UM, ONE APPLICANT WHERE THE FIRST BOX OR ONE OF THE FIRST SECTIONS, THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE, BUT THAT PERSON IS NOT ON THE INCOMPLETE LIST. SO THE ONLY THING THAT I'M ASKING FOR, AND WHAT I'M TRYING TO STATE IS JUST SO THIS DOESN'T COME BACK ON US, RIGHT? MM-HMM . WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD WITH THE ENTIRE PROCESS. AND ANOTHER THING THAT I'LL POINT OUT, LIKE WITH THE, UM, I WAS LIKE LOOKING AND LIKE, ON SOME OF THE INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE 'CAUSE GINA KEPT TALKING ABOUT LIKE IT'S FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT THAT FIRST COME FIRST SERVICE IS, IT'S ON THE PRESS RELEASE. IT'S NOT ON ANY OF THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE BANISH PROGRAM. SO WE NEED TO BE CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD. THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT I'M ASKING FOR. AND I'M PUSHING FOR THAT NOW, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE'VE JUST BEEN NOTIFIED AT THE MEETING THAT THERE'S ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR FOLKS. SURE. SO IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, I'LL MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT. IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON OR DISCUSSION GO AHEAD. PUBLIC COMMENT. I, I HAVE A QUESTION TO ASK. IS THERE A MOTION TO ACTUALLY APPROVE THE 25? ISN'T THAT WHAT WE WANTED OUTTA THIS? IT COMES FROM COMMITTEE. IT SHOULD ONLY HAVE TO BE SECONDED TECHNICALLY, AND, BUT WE KIND [00:55:01] OF, BUT BUT WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T DO THAT, RIGHT? CORRECT. WELL, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I THINK I MADE A, A PREVIOUS MOTION THAT WE DIDN'T DISCUSS OR APPROVE OR REJECT, WHICH WAS AUTHORIZING THE AD HOC COMMITTEE POWER TO WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE SAYING? SELECT A LOCATION, BUT THAT'S KIND OF THAT FOR DOUBLE BANNER. NO, IT WAS THE SINGLE. THAT'S WHAT, THANK YOU. YEAH, THANK YOU. IT, IT WAS, WHETHER IT BE THE SINGLE OR DOUBLE BANNER, KNOWING THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE ADDITIONAL, UM, BANNER OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT AT, I MEAN, THIS WILL BE A SPECIAL EVENTS COMBINATION CONVERSATION. GONNA SAY THAT'S, THAT IS A MOTION. SO WE HAVE TO SECOND IT BEFORE WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. I WOULD SECOND, BUT THERE'S NO MOTION TO APPROVE YOUR 25. WASN'T THAT ONE OF THE ORIGINAL THINGS YOU WANTED OUT OF THIS MEETING? THERE WOULD BE, RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO MOTION. PROVE IT. THE CURRENT MOTION IS TALKING ABOUT WHETHER WE TO GRANT POWER TO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE TO APPROVE EITHER DOUBLE OR EXTENSION OF SINGLE POLL BANNERS OR SINGLE BANNER POLLS. CAN WE MAKE A MOTION? CAN WE GET A MOTION? THERE WAS ALREADY A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. ALL SET. THERE YOU GO. THERE YOU GO. GOT IT. UM, I THINK THIS IS A THING THAT WE NEED TO TALK TO SPECIAL EVENTS BECAUSE I'VE NEVER SEEN DOUBLE HUNG. SO I THINK THAT THE DECISION IS ANOTHER, AN ALTERNATIVE LOCATION FOR SINGLE HUNG BANNERS. IT'S ALL THE TIME. YOU GO TO RIA, YOU GO OCEAN BOULEVARD HARDWARE, DOUBLE SIDED, JUST A HARD SIDE, A BANNER ON EITHER SIDE. JUST THE HARDWARE. THAT'S GONNA BE MORE EXPENSIVE. IT'S A DIFFERENT, UH, WELL, YES, CONTRACTION. ANYTHING IS GONNA BE MORE EXPENSIVE FOR SURE. I'M JUST SAYING THE CHEAPEST OPTION IS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO, ONCE WE KNOW WHAT THE, THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING IS, WE WON'T HAVE TIME TO RECONVENE AS A COMMITTEE. THAT'S WHY WE'RE GRANTING THE PERMISSION, THE AD HOC, TO MAKE THAT DECISION. THAT'S THE MOTION. THAT'S SOMEBODY'S MOTION TO MAKE A DOUBLE HUNG OR NOT DECISION TO LET THE AD HOC COMMITTEE FIGURE OUT WHAT THE REST OF THE LOGISTICS ARE. AND IS THAT, OH, OKAY. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE? I MEAN, FOR MONIES? REGARDING MONIES, I DON'T KNOW. IT'S AN JUST, IT'S AN, IT'S AN IF WE GET IT. AND BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE ASKING WITH THE MOTION, IF I'M NOT MISSTATING, WHAT SMITTY'S TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IS THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA MEET AGAIN IN THE SUFFICIENT TIME TO GET THIS DONE. IF WE FIND OUT WE'RE GETTING MORE MONEY, WE'RE BASICALLY EMPOWERING THE AD HOC TO MAKE THE REST OF THE DECISIONS. RIGHT. SO YES, VOTE SAYS, HEY, THE AD HOC WILL JUST FIGURE THIS OUT AND THEN WE'LL JUST GO FROM THERE. AND WHAT WE GET IS WHAT WE GET. I, I, I GET THAT, BUT IS THE COMMISSION AS A WHOLE AUTHORIZED TO MAKE THAT, THAT AUTHORITY TO GIVE AN AD HOC TO SPEND THE MONEY? THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY THING. AND IT, AND I KNOW, I REALIZE THAT WE ARE SHORT ON TIME AND THAT'S ON US. SO TO PUSH SOMETHING THROUGH TO GET SOMETHING DONE, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA MEET ANOTHER TIME. ARE WE VIOLATING ANY KIND OF, I DON'T KNOW. 'CAUSE IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. THERE'S NO RULES IN THE BROWN ACT OR ROGER'S RULES OF ORDER OR ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER THAT SEEM TO BE TRIGGERED BY THIS. AS LONG AS THE COMMISSION HAS THE POWER TO GRANT IT TO A SUBCOMMITTEE, IN THEORY WE CAN DO IT. RIGHT. AND SO DID WE. WE GOT YOU. OKAY. SO NOW DO WE TAKE IT TO A VOTE? WE NEED TO VOTE. CAN WE GET A VOTE ON THAT MOTION? AND SECOND? WE ALREADY HAVE A SECOND. I, I'M JUST SAYING, DO WE HAVE, IS EVERYONE'S GONNA VOTE? I'LL SECOND. SO NOW WE CAN VOTE. YEAH. YEAH. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL MOTION PASSES. WHO MADE THE MOTION ON THE SECOND? SID MADE THE MOTION. STY MOTION DID, UH, JUST SO YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT A COMMISSIONER YET, RIGHT? SO YOU, HE, HE, JIM. JIM, HE IS. JIM IS A, SEE, I DON'T KNOW THIS. YEAH, JIM S IF YOU GET HERE ON TIME, THEN YOU KNOW THAT. OH, OKAY. SO IS IT BASICALLY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOTION FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO MAKE THE DECISIONS, WHATEVER THEY ARE. CORRECT. LET'S JUST SAY LOGISTICAL DECISIONS. LOGISTICAL DECISIONS. OKAY. LET'S, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO PUBLIC AND COMMENTS DO PUBLIC. IF WE COULD DO, IF WE COULD, UM, IF WE COULD BRING IT BACK PLEASE. WE'RE GONNA DO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS AGENDA ITEM. MS. ANTOINETTE, UM, I JUST WANT TO ASK, UM, WHEN YOU WERE TAKING, OR WHEN YOU WERE LIKE, REVIEW THE APPLICANTS, DID YOU HAVE THE DEMOGRAPHICS LIKE NO. RACE, GENDER? NO, ALL THAT WAS SCRUBB FROM OUR, UH, DATA THAT WE GOT. OKAY. SO ARE WE TRYING THEN TO, IS THERE AN EFFORT TO MAKE IT DIVERSE, TO REFLECT THE COMMUNITY CAN'T? 'CAUSE IF I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION, I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. RIGHT, RIGHT. BUT LIKE GOING FORWARD, LIKE MAYBE FOR NEXT YEAR, ARE WE ASKING FOR THAT OR WE NEVER ASKED. I MEAN, THAT'S HOW IT NO, WE, I MEAN YOU COULD, UM, YOU COULD TELL PROBABLY GENDER. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD TELL RACE. UM, BUT I MEAN, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION WANTS TO LOOK AT NEXT YEAR, THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH IN A COUPLE MONTHS OR WHATEVER. WE WANT TO DO THAT AGAIN. UM, IT WAS THE DECISION OF LAST MONTH'S MEETING THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT. OKAY. WELL THAT WAS SOMETHING YOU WANTED AS WELL, IS TO EVALUATE WITHOUT THE PHOTOS, RIGHT? YES. IT, IT, IT REMOVES BITES, RIGHT? MM-HMM . AND JUST, OH, I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, AND AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE CONSISTENCY, [01:00:01] BECAUSE OF COURSE THE MAJORITY 'CAUSE IT, IT SAID HE BLAH, BLAH, BLAH IN THE WORDING. BUT WHAT WE, WE DID, WE TRIED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, LIKE FOR THE DIFFERENT, LIKE, UM, ASM SAID EARLIER, LIKE THE DIFFERENT, UM, BRANCHES, RIGHT? OR THE DIFFERENT, UM, UH, WHAT ERRORS YOU CALL, LIKE THE DIFFERENT ERRORS, ERROR, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. WE DID TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KIND OF INCLUDED, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, TO LIKE REFLECT THE, THE COMMUNITY. AND UM, AND ALSO WE DID TRY TO STRESS TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, GETTING OUT OF THE SERVICE, WHAT ARE YOU CURRENT, WHAT ARE YOU DOING OR WHAT HAVE YOU CURRENTLY DONE IN THE PAST FOR VETERANS, UM, AS YOU'RE CONTINUING TO SERVE? NOT NECESSARILY VETERANS, JUST THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. JUST, JUST, JUST SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS A, A LARGE PART OF THE DISCUSSION, ANTOINETTE. OKAY. BECAUSE I JUST, I MEAN, MY THING IS LIKE WHEN YOU DRIVE AROUND TO SEE LONG BEACH, YEAH. MM-HMM . I WANT TO SEE OTHERS. OTHERS DIVERSITY. YEAH. I DON'T WANT IT TO JUST BE MAJORITY ONE. I, I CAN TELL YOU THAT EVERY, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF MEN. WE KNOW THAT. YEAH. BECAUSE I CERTAIN TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT. SO, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE, YEAH. YOU KNOW, EVEN IF WE HAVE TO PICK MAYBE ONE OR TWO, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE THEY FEEL INCLUDED NOW AND OTHER PEOPLE CAN SEE IT'S NOT JUST ONE GROUP. RIGHT. THERE REALLY VALID POINT. APPRECIATE YOU'RE GONNA GET A LOT OF THOSE SUBMISSIONS THAT ARE NOT GONNA BE, WELL, ONCE ALL OF THIS IS APPROVED, WE'LL JUST DULY NOTED. PUT THAT DULY NOTED. YES. THAT'S OKAY. DO WE HAVE, OKAY, DO WE, UM, OKAY, SO WE'RE, SO AFTER, UM, LET'S MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE 25 CURRENTLY, UH, SUGGESTED MM-HMM . I'LL SAY WITH THE CURRENT APPROVED FUNDING. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR WHO'S MOTION AGAIN BY SMITTY AND SECOND BY MIKE. WE GET A VOTE ON ANY DISCUSSION ON THOSE 25. DO YOU NEED ME TO READ IT AGAIN? THERE'S A BUNCH OF NUMBERS AND WE COULD, I'LL, I'LL SEND IT. UH, JUAN ALREADY HAS THE, THE NUMBERS. YEAH, I'LL SEND IT TO YOU, JENNA. SO THAT WAY IN OUR MINUTES WE HAVE THE, THE LIST OF WHO WAS SL. WE HAVE SOMETHING I LIKE, NUMBER ONE. SURE. NUMBER TWO. SO, BUT I KNOW. YEAH. CAN, CAN WE GET A VOTE ON THAT ONE? I DON'T HAVE NAMES. I SECOND IT. YEAH, I GOT YOU DOWN. GOT YOU. THANK YOU. ARE WE, IS EVERYONE VOTING ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OKAY, SO MOTION PASSES. OKAY. MY, MY QUESTION JUST FOR MY MINUTES IS WHEN WE EMPOWERED THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS THAT, THAT IS LOGISTICS AND CANDIDATES, RIGHT? LIKE GOING THROUGH THE 41 AND IT HAS TO BE YES. OKAY. HAS TO, SO IT'S BASIC. AND, AND THEN, AND THE COMMITTEE COULD DECIDE TOO THAT THIS IS TOO MUCH RIGHT NOW. SO 25 GO UP NOW AND ANOTHER 20 GO UP AROUND VETERANS DAY. IF, I MEAN, THOSE ARE ALL PART OF THE SCOPE. I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS I'M, AND I'LL PUT IT THIS WAY, IS ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO KNOW IS WITH THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING, DOES IT HAVE TO BE SPENT BY MEMORIAL DAY OR CAN WE USE THAT LATER? IT HAS TO BE SPENT IN THE FISCAL YEAR. SO, SO CORRECT. BUT, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS OKAY, I HEAR YOU. SO FISCAL YEAR IS OCTOBER, OCTOBER 1ST. BUT IF YOU, IF YOU BUY IT PRIOR TO, YOU WRITE A CONTRACT SEPTEMBER 30TH, YOU'RE USING THIS FISCAL YEAR MONEY TO DO IT AND YOU JUST HAVE IT DONE AND WHENEVER, RIGHT. THOSE WILL, THOSE WILL ALL BE THE SCOPE OF THE DECISION YOU MAKE. LIKE IF YOU DECIDE YOU REALLY WANNA DIG DEEP INTO THIS LIST. YES. HOW ABOUT CHRISTINE? UM, FOR THAT ONE, THE PRINTER DOES NOT LIKE TO DO THAT BECAUSE I'VE WORKED WITH A THREE BEFORE. YEAH. SO THEY'D LIKE TO CUT THE CHECK AND DO THE, DO THE WORK RIGHT AWAY. BUT WE JUST HAVE BEFORE THE 22ND WE HAVE, SO IF YOU WANT TO, SO, AND WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT. I MEAN, FOURTH JULY EXACTLY, 4TH OF JULY IS THE YEAR ONE, STUFF LIKE THAT. SO THERE'S, UM, YOU CAN DO ARMED FORCES STAY, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ALLOWS US, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF IT'S DONE HAS TO BE DONE BY MEMORIAL DAY, LIKE THE CURRENT 10,000, THEN IT'S LIKE STRESS, STRESS, STRESS. YEAH. BUT IF IT ALLOWS US SOME LEVERAGE, THEN I WANT TO TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND THEN REALLY MAKE SOME SOLID DECISIONS. SO IS THAT ROTATING? SO, SO, SO DOES THAT COME IN A PLAY OF ROTATING? IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR ONE YEAR. OKAY. SO WHENEVER IT GOES UP TO WHAT IT HAS TO BE TAKEN OUT AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION FOR IT TO BE ENTERED INTO THIS FISCAL YEAR, THE SERVICE HAS TO BE PROVIDED. SO THE PRINTERS HAVE THE BANNERS HAVE TO BE PRINTED. CORRECT. AND THE CHECK HAS TO BE CUT BEFORE DEC EXCUSE ME, SEPTEMBER 30TH, BUT BUT NOT NECESSARILY INSTALLED. LIKE IF THE IN INSTALLATION HAPPENED AFTER OCTOBER 1ST, THAT MIGHT BE, AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT CHARGING US ADDITIONAL FOR THAT, THAT SHOULD BE OKAY. AND FROM MY EXPERIENCE, THEY'RE GONNA WANNA DO IT ALL AT THE SAME TIME. THEY'D WANT TO, IF WE HAD THE MONEY TO DO 45 FOR EXAMPLE, THEY'D WANNA DO IT ALL AT THE SAME TIME. NO, NO. JUST MEAN ON ALL OF THAT PACKAGE. SO PRINTING AND STILL SHOULD IT UP CUTTING THE CHECK THEY'RE GONNA WANNA DO, SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? SO IF WE DO WHAT WE DO AS A SECOND RUN YEAH. NOT, OH, I SEE. WE STILL, SO EVEN IF THEY POSTPONE PUTTING THE SECOND BATCH UP, THEY WON'T DO THAT. THEY DON'T WANT TO HOLD IT FOR VETERANS DAY. IF WE PAY IN JULY. YES. IF WE PAY IN JULY, THEY'RE GONNA WANNA PUT 'EM UP IN JULY. OKAY, GOTCHA. FOR WHATEVER DATE THAT THE SUB SUBCOMMITTEE SOMETHING FINE. SO WE HAVE, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT. I MEAN, THAT'S PART OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE THING. SO IT IS NICE KNOWING IF, IF THE, [01:05:01] LIKE I SAID, I JUST NEED TO KNOW THE STRINGS THAT ARE ATTACHED TO THOSE DOLLARS. THAT'S ALL I NEED TO KNOW. I'LL JUST PUT IT THAT WAY. THAT'S A REALLY GREAT IDEA. LIKE IF IT, IF YOU DECIDE THAT WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT A 4TH OF JULY OR, OR ENFORCE THIS AND KEEP IT AWAY FROM MEMORIAL DAY, THAT'S PROBABLY OKAY. IT COULD BE A WAY TO INFLUENCE OUR CITY COUNCIL AS WELL TOO. IF YOU GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO NOMINATE A VETERAN FOR THEIR DISTRICT AND HAVE IT SOMETHING NEARBY CITY HALL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO THAT COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET THEM INVOLVED SO THAT WAY THEY FEEL THEY KNOW WHERE THE MONEY'S GOING. WE'LL PUT THAT THERE. MM-HMM . AND AGAIN, WOULD THAT BE BANNERS PRINTED AND THEN WE PUT THEM IN ROTATION? WELL, IT WOULD, IT WOULD HAVE, LIKE I SAID, IT WOULD BE PRINTED BY THE . WE'LL, WE WILL FIGURE ALL THAT LATER, BUT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT ONE, HOW MUCH AND WHAT ARE THE STRINGS. RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT FIRST. AND THEN WE WILL FIGURE OUT ALL THE LOGISTICS AFTER THAT. OKAY. RYAN? UM, UH, KEN, SO IT'S, IF IT IS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY, IE CLOSE TO WHAT WE GOT LEFT WITH TOTAL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT IT'S, IT MAKES GOOD SENSE TO DO A SECOND ROUND OF, WE CAN DO A WHOLE SEPARATE, A SECOND PROCESS AND WE COULD ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS AND ISSUES WE HAD WITH THIS ONE AND DO IT EVEN BETTER BECAUSE WE'VE LEARNED SOME LESSONS AND WE DO THAT SECOND ROUND AS CLOSE TO THE END OF THAT AS WE CAN SO WE HAVE TIME AND NOT TRY TO THROW FIVE MORE NAMES ON THE END OF THIS ONE AND HOPE IT STICKS. CORRECT. THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE, IF IT'S, IT'S 500 BUCKS. YEAH, WE PUT ONE MORE PERSON UP THERE AND VOTE. WE'RE DONE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE MOVE ON? OKAY. NEXT, UM, AGENDA ITEM. ARE THERE ANY OTHER, UM, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER, UM, PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA? I DO, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, NOBODY ELSE SAYS I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, UM, A PUBLIC COMMENT. CAN YOU AS A I I CAN, AS PUBLIC, I CAN MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. UM, MY PUBLIC, MY, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT IS THAT IT IS, UM, BUDGET SEASON, IT'S BUDGET TIME. AND I'VE, I'VE ASKED FOR OUR, UM, I'VE ASKED FOR PAST SPENDING, PROJECTED SPENDING AND FUTURE. I'VE ASKED FOR PROPOSAL, UM, BUDGET REPORT FROM THIS COMMISSION TO BE DRAFTED SO WE CAN SEND IT TO OUR CITY COUNCIL, RIGHT? SO WE CAN KIND OF HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL AND WITH, UM, I DON'T KNOW, I ALWAYS FORGET HIS NAME OF THE, THE CITY CLERK. THE CITY CLERK, THE MANAGER. THE THE MANAGER. FORGET HIS NAME. THE TOM MOCA, WHAT IS IT? TOM MOCA THE CITY MANAGER, TOM. UM, SO OUR REQUEST, OUR SPENDING CAN BE CONSIDERED FOR THE 2025 BUDGET CYCLE PROPOSED BUDGET CYCLE. AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN COMMENTS, THERE'S BEEN QUESTIONS ABOUT BUDGETING FOR FUTURE ITEMS, BUT THAT IS WHY I'M KIND OF REALLY HONING IN AND TRYING TO MAKE THAT REQUEST. WHAT THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF SPENDING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING MONEY FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLACES. BUT TO REALLY HAVE, UM, A PAPER TRAIL TO KIND OF HAVE A REPORT FOR THAT INFORMATION, THAT'S KIND OF LIKE THE, THAT'S KIND OF LIKE THE PROCESS. SO AS THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE, I THINK TO BE TAKEN SERIOUS, WE KIND OF NEED TO OF COURSE FOLLOW THE PROCESS AND THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS. SO HAVING THE OFFICE OF VETERAN SUPPORT AND THE COMMISSION BE LIKE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH SOME OF THESE REQUESTS, IT KIND OF MAKES US LOOK LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO BE TAKEN SERIOUS. SO SOME OF THESE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS AND OTHER DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING AND BEING TAKEN OUTSIDE OF THE COMMISSION, I WOULD REALLY, UH, I THINK IT'S OUT OF DUE RESPECT, HAVING THOSE THINGS COME TO THE COMMISSION AND BE DISCUSSED IN THIS FORM. SO WE HAVE COMPLETE TRANSPARENCY AND EVERYONE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING. IF YOU ARE THE CHAIR OF A SUBCOMMITTEE, THEN WHEN YOU COME TO THE COMMISSION THAT YOU REPORT OUT TO YOUR CHAIR, EACH PERSON, EACH COMMISSION, IF THEY HAVE A QUESTION OR DISCUSSION, THOSE THINGS GET BROUGHT. WE DISCUSS 'EM AMONGST OURSELVES AND WE MOVE BACK AND WE KIND OF CAN MOVE THROUGH OUR AGENDA ITEM. AND I THINK THAT IS PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE. UM, IN TERMS OF LIKE MY PUBLIC COMMENT OF WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE MOVING FORWARD. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER, WAS ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS I ASK A QUESTION, WOULD [01:10:01] ANY OTHER QUESTION? UM, COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME? CLARIFICATION QUESTION, I GUESS. YES. MIKE HAS A CLARIFICATION QUESTION. CLARIFICATION QUESTION FOR ME. YES, MIKE. UM, SO I WANT MORE DETAILS ON WHAT I SHOULD REPORT, FOR EXAMPLE, TO YOU FROM MY SUBCOMMITTEE, ONCE I GET IT STARTED, UH, I, I WOULD UM, SO YOU CAN PROBABLY TALK OFFLINE YEAH, YEAH. AS A, YEAH. AS A MEMBER. AS A MEMBER OF THE, WE CAN IZE IT FOR NEXT TIME. YEAH. SO WE CAN, I WOULD SAY OUR, OUR NEXT, WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE THAT AN AGENDA ITEM ON THE NEXT SUBCOMMITTEE SINCE WE ARE MEETING EVERY WEEK. IS THAT, IS THAT FAIR? IS THAT GOOD? MARK? IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH? WAIT, DID YOU SAY WE'RE MEETING EVERY WEEK? YES, BECAUSE WE'RE APPROACHING, WE'RE APPROACHING. SO THIS IS A SUBCOMMITTEE. THE SUBCOMMITTEE. THE SUBCOMMITTEE. YOUR SUBCOMMITTEE ALREADY EXISTS. OKAY. WE'LL GET YOU THE, WE'LL GET YOU THE, UM, THE NOTES AND, AND, AND SOME OF THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS ON THAT IS, IS, IS THAT OKAY? I GUESS? YES. OKAY. GINA, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD ON THAT? WHAT TIME DID SHE, SHE JUST STEPPED OUT. OKAY. SHE TOOK HER, HER NAME PLATE. I WAS KINDA LIKE, I THINK SHE STILL LEFT. I THINK SHE JUST WENT TO THE BATHROOM, I THINK. OKAY. UM, SO WE'LL GIVE HER, I'M SORRY. SO WE'LL JUST HAVE YOU GET, WE'LL JUST, UM, SHE JUST HER WITH HER NAME PLATE THOUGH, THE COMMITTEE MIKE ON THAT. OH, OKAY. UM, IS THAT, IS THAT OKAY, MIKE FOR THAT? IS IT, IS THAT, I'M SORRY, SAY AGAIN. WE'LL HAVE THE, WE WILL, THE SUBC COMMITTEE WILL GET WITH YOU OFFLINE TO GET YOU THE, TO GET YOU UP TO SPEED ON YOUR SUBCOMMITTEE. SO WHAT IS NEEDED? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY, COOL. THANK YOU. UHHUH. . IS THERE ANY OTHER, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT OF THAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE? UM, I DO HAVE ANOTHER ONE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. SO I NOTICED WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE HERE AND I JUST DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE AND WHAT DISTRICT THEY REPRESENT. AND I'M SURE YOU PROBABLY DID THIS WHEN I WAS IT HERE WAS ABSENT. YEAH. CAN WE DO IT AGAIN? JUST SO I KNOW, I THINK I WILL ASK IN THE, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME AND GETTING ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT WE JUST STAY PAUSE FOR A SECOND WHEN WE'RE, WHEN WE ADJOURN AND WE CAN JUST QUICKLY INTRODUCE OURSELVES AGAIN. IF THAT'S, OR I WOULD SUGGEST, IS IT WHEN I, WHEN I GET WITH YOU PART OF WORKING, I GUESS WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL GET WITH THE, WITH THE COMMITTEE CHAIRS AND UM, WE CAN TALK AND I, I GET YOU UP TO SPEED ON EVERYBODY MYSELF. AND ALSO TOO, I THINK HAVING, UM, AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH, 'CAUSE WE HAVE LIKE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS TO KIND OF BRING KEN INTO, UM, INTO THAT DISCUSSION AS WELL AS THE, UM, AS THE, UM, AS THE VICE CHAIR. SO WHEN IT'S LIKE A HANDOFF, ARE YOU, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? OKAY. WITH THAT, KEN? I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR LIKE, TRANSPARENCY IS ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? JUST SAY YES, ? YES. I WOULD LIKE TO DO IT AS WHILE THEY ARE HERE SO I CAN GET LIKE GOOD VISUAL. OKAY. SO WE CAN, LIKE REGINA, WE'LL CLOSE THE MEETING AND THEN WE'LL KIND OF DO A LITTLE SOCIAL. PERFECT. IS THAT OKAY? COOL. ALL RIGHT. SO DO WE HAVE, UM, DO WE HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? I I HAVE SOME THAT I'LL START WITH. UM, ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS AND THEN WE'LL ARE, YOU HAVE TO LEAVE SOME. OKAY. YOU HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS, SYLVIA? OKAY. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? IF NOT, THEN WE'LL GO TO GINA. GINA, YOU CAN GO AHEAD WITH YOUR ANNOUNCEMENTS. THIS IS NOT COMING UP RIGHT NOW. YAY. OKAY. UM, THE REFEREES, LIKE HOW MANY THINGS WE HAVE, GINA BEFORE WE ADJOURN? UH, THE, THE VETERANS HEALTH AND RESOURCES FAIR, WHICH IS NOT COMING UP RIGHT NOW, UM, IS AT THE, OH, THERE, IT'S FINALLY VETERANS HEALTH AND RESOURCE S FAIR ON APRIL 18TH FROM 10 TO TWO AT LONG BEACH CITY COLLEGE. SO I ANNOUNCED THAT LAST TIME A COUPLE OF YOU TOOK A PICTURE OF IT. HOLD THAT, IF YOU COULD KEEP THAT UP. I'M GONNA SEND THIS TO SYLVIA OR SEND US OUT TO EVERYBODY. HELLO. THOSE HEALTH AND RESOURCE. OKAY, GO AHEAD. OKAY, SO THAT'S, UH, ONE, AND LET'S SEE THE, THIS IS JUST FOR US. THE, OH NO, THAT'S REALLY SMALL. THEY DIDN'T SEND A FLYER, BUT BASICALLY YOU PROBABLY GOT THIS IN THE MAIL THAT THIS IS YOUR INVITATION TO THE AMERICAN GOLD STAR MANOR, UH, MEMORIAL DAY CEREMONY ON FRIDAY, MAY 24TH. UM, UH, COMMIT THE CEREMONY STARTS AT 11, FOLLOWED BY A 12:00 PM RECEPTION. IT DOES INCLUDE LUNCH. UH, USUALLY COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOW UP, UH, STATE, UH, STATE, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? THE CALIFORNIA STATE SENATOR AND ASSEMBLYMEN AND ALL THAT. WE DON'T USUALLY GET FEDERAL PEOPLE THERE. UM, SO JUST MARK YOUR CALENDAR THERE. LIKE I WAS SAYING, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON. UH, THE, THERE'S MEET A VET COMING UP AT, UH, THE VA. SO THE VA BRINGS UP, HAVE YOU BEEN TO THOSE? RIGHT SPINY WHERE YOU MEET FIVE OR SIX VETS, THEY RECOGNIZE FIVE OR SIX VETS FROM THE COMMUNITY. UM, THEY'RE REALLY GREAT EVENTS. I WOULD SAY THEY'RE USUALLY IN THE MORNING ON [01:15:01] A WEEKDAY, SO I'M USUALLY WORKING. SO, OKAY. SO MONDAY, APRIL 29TH, FROM 11TH TO NOON AT THE VA IN THE A, WHICH IS BUILDING 1 65, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE BIOGRAPHIES AND, UH, SPOTLIGHTING STORIES AND PHOTOGRAPHS OF 18 VETERANS WILL BE UNVEILED AT THE CONCLUSION OF OUR EVENT AT THE MEET A VETERAN GALLERY. SO, UM, WE COULD BE PASSING OUT POSTCARDS FOR OUR MEMORIAL DAY EVENT AT THAT EVENT. OKAY, LET'S SEE, WHAT ELSE? UM, LET'S SEE. THE SKY RESILIENCE TRAINING, WHICH IS A REALLY FANTASTIC, YOU HAVE THE GOLD STAR MANNER UP. AGAIN, ONES HITTING THING, IT'S NOT COMING UP. CLICK DOWN ON YOUR PICTURE ICON THERE. THIS, SO THE, THIS IS THAT FANTASTIC BREATHING MEDITATION WORKSHOP THING THAT'S DESIGNED FOR VETERANS, UH, RECOVERING FROM ANY SORT OF PTSD, ET CETERA. BUT IT'S A FANTASTIC OPPORTUNITY. SO THAT'S UP THERE AS WELL. WHAT ELSE IS THERE? UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. THE LBCC, VETERANS HEALTH AND RESOURCES FAIR ON THE 18TH, THE AMERICAN GOLD STAR MANOR, UH, MEMORY, UH, MEMORIAL DAY CELEBRATION, THE SKY RESILIENCE BREEDING WORKSHOP, UH, MEET EVENT AT THE VA, ET CETERA. AND THEN THIS IS JUST A REMINDER OF OUR OWN THING. WHAT AM I DOING THE WRONG SPINNING? I DUNNO WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO. OKAY, THERE WE GO. ONLY STATE DAY. HE SAID EVERYTHING TO ME. HONORING OUR HEROES. THE SUNSET CEREMONY IN COMMEMORATION OF MEMORIAL DAY. SO SYLVIA, I'M GONNA EMAIL THIS TO YOU. I'M GONNA EMAIL THE PICTURE. ALRIGHT, TINA, THAT'S IT. UHHUH, COULD YOU ZIP THOSE AND JUST SHIP IT OUT TO US? SURE, OF COURSE. BECAUSE THEN WE DON'T HAVE IT JUST IN CASE WE DIDN'T GET ONE OR ONE OR RIGHT. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. ANY OTHER, UM, ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? OKAY, OUR NEXT MEETING, IF EVERYONE COULD TAKE OUT THEIR PHONES OR WRITE IT DOWN, OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE MAY 8TH, SAME LOCATION, SAME TIME. AND WITH THAT, UM, I WILL ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 6 21. OKAY. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.