* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. EIGHT, IF [00:00:01] I CAN GET A ROLL CALL FIRST. STARTING WITH HANNAH OSBORNE. HERE. ANTOINETTE JAMES DEN HERE. VICTOR HILL. HE DID SAY HE WASN'T GONNA BE HERE. JAMES SHOTTER HERE. NICHOLAS HERE. AND JUANITA HERE. 11 13 20 24. OH FIVE. OH 9:00 PM IF YOU COULD, UM, IF EVERYONE, UM, KEN, IF YOU COULD LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. EVERYONE, PLEASE. ALRIGHT. WE BEGIN OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. SO BEFORE WE BEGIN, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN IT UP IF THERE'S ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA. DO YOU HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO OPEN US UP AND MAKE A COMMENT? AT FIRST? THEY'RE ON THE AGENDA. I KNOW, BUT I'M JUST SAYING. BUT IF YOU, IF YOU WANNA, IF YOU GUYS WANNA SAY ANYTHING HAPPY. BE BETTER TO SAY ARMY BEAT NAVY . WELL, I, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY, UH, THAT WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE AND WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE INVITATION BY KEN OSBORNE TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT LATER ABOUT SOME, UH, AT THE PROJECT WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT WITH VA UH, HOUSING IN LONG BEACH. SO WE'RE EXCITED TO, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO TELLING YOU MORE ABOUT IT. WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS FOR JOINING US TONIGHT, BUT YES. YES, YES. AND, UM, UH, WE'LL MOVE TO ANOTHER ITEM. AND IF WE COULD JUST START WITH, UM, KEN, WE'LL START WITH YOU. IF WE COULD DO, UM, INTRODUCTIONS. KEN, I WAS BORN OF DISTRICT THREE, JIM SHOTTER, DISTRICT TWO NEXT. SURE. I I'M AT DISTRICT SEVEN. JIM GOODEN, DISTRICT ONE, JUANITA. DR. MOORE, DISTRICT NINE. GOOD AHEAD. OH, I'M SORRY. OH, I'VE BEEN LETTING THE VETERANS GO FIRST. OKAY. , UH, JESSE WITH PEOPLE OF THE EARTH. I'M GINA OVERHAUL. I'M THE STAFF LIAISON FOR THE VETERANS COMMISSION WITH CITY OF LONG BEACH BOATRIGHT. RESOURCE CONNECTIONS DIVISION OFFICER, UH, WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. OKAY. GO AHEAD. DICK KALEY. UM, WITH A PROJECT PUBLIC WE'RE DEVELOPING. YEAH. UM, STEVE HAMAN, I'M A RESIDENT AND BUSINESS OPERATOR IN LONG BEACH AND CO-PROJECT CHAIRMAN FOR THE 1400 CHURCH PROJECT. CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? THE 14 WHAT? 14. 1400 SHERRY STREET. AND WE'LL GET, WE, WE, IT'S ACTUALLY AVENUE WE HAVE IT IN WRITING. ALRIGHT. YES. UH, MY NAME IS DARREN. I'M THE FOUNDER AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF VETERANS SOCIAL SERVICES INC. IN LOS ANGELES COUNTY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US HERE TONIGHT. SO WE WILL, UM, BEGIN WITH OUR, UM, AGENDA ITEM OF OUR CHAIRS REPORT. UH, I JUST WANNA SAY IT WAS A VERY, UM, AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU TO MY FELLOW VETERANS. UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, YOU AND YOUR FAMILY TO, UM, OUR COUNTRY AND NATION AND ALSO TO, UM, CONTINUING TO SERVE VETERANS IN OUR COMMUNITY. UH, I THINK THAT OUR VETERANS, UM, HUB WAS THE BEST. I DUNNO, I DIDN'T GO TO ANY OTHER , I DIDN'T GO TO ANY OF THE OTHER, UM, ANY OF THE OTHER SECTIONS, BUT I CAN JUST TELL WHAT THE SATIN DOLLS AND EVERYONE, ALL THE ENTERTAINMENT RESOURCES AND VETERANS THAT WE HAD, UM, WITH OUR PRESENTATION OF OUR, UM, WHAT IS IT CALLED? LIKE OUR GRAND MARSHALL, UM, AND ALL THE DIGNITARIES THAT CAME OUT. SO WE, I THINK OUR HUB WAS THE BEST HUB, UM, WITH THE WHOLE BEACH STREET THING. SO WE HELD IT DOWN. UM, SO AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE THAT CAME OUT. GINA, UM, KEN, UM, UH, JIM THAT WAS THERE. YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS CAME, EVERYONE THAT CAME OUT AND SUPPORTED US AS WELL. WE GOT TO SEE SOME OF OUR, UM, EMERITUS VETERANS AS WELL. SO IT WAS JUST A GOOD DAY. UM, AND AGAIN, WE HAVE, UM, IT GAVE, UH, JIM AND I THE OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF GET SOME WORK DONE ON OUR SUB PROJECT. WE WERE KIND OF WEARING DOUBLE HATS THAT DAY AS WELL. SO IT WAS LIKE A GREAT, UM, TURNOUT. WE THINK THAT IT WAS MORE, UM, MORE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY ATTENDED. SO IT WAS A, UM, SURPRISE, BUT IT WAS A GOOD THING THAT WE KIND OF COMBINED IT WITH BEACH STREETS. SO, AGAIN, THANK YOU GUYS FOR THAT. UM, LOT OF WORK TO DO. EXCITED ABOUT IT AND LOOKING FORWARD TO OUR HOLIDAY AND END OF THE YEAR EVENTS. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY CHAIR REPORT. [00:05:02] DO I HAVE, UM, CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT REPORT? JIM? I MOVE AND NICK, JIM AND NICK. OKAY. UM, ALL IN FAVOR? A I AGREE. OKAY. NO. ANY NAYS, ANY ABSTENTIONS. ALL APPROVED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. UM, NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS WE WILL TURN IT OVER. I WILL INTRODUCE IT TO GINA, WHO WILL DO OUR STAFF REPORT. I BASICALLY AM GOING TO DEFER TO THE AGENDA AND COVER THE ITEMS THAT I WOULD IN MY STAFF REPORT IN THE, IN THE AGENDA ITEMS. SO THERE'S NO NEED TO, TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REPORTER. OKAY. THANK YOU. NOTED THAT GINA WILL COVER THOSE ITEMS IN HER STAFF REPORT. SO BEFORE WE, UM, UM, WHEN WE MOVE ON, WE'RE GONNA GO TO OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM, OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED AGENDA, UM, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1 24 DASH 5 5 5 8 5, WHICH IS RECOMMENDATIONS TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMISSION MEETING ON OCTOBER 16TH, 2024. CAN I GET A MOTION, NICK? SECOND. SECOND, NICK AND JIM. OKAY. IS THE NICK AND JIM SHOW ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY NAYS? ANY ABSTENTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT, THAT MOTION. UH, THAT MOTION PASSES. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR SECOND AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS 24 DASH 5 5 5 86, WHICH IS RECOMMENDATIONS TO DISCUSS THE PRESENTATION OF POTENTIAL BASH VETERAN HOUSING PROJECTS IN CAMBODIA TOWN. AND KEN, I WILL TURN THIS OVER. I WILL TURN THIS ITEM OVER YOU FOR YOU TO INTRODUCE THIS ITEM. WELL, UM, STEVE AND I HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER FROM OUR RAIL WORLD AND HE HAD JUST, WE TALKED ABOUT THE PROJECT AT LENGTH A COUPLE TIMES AND I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO START AND TO START MAKING CONNECTIONS. 'CAUSE IT'S, WE ALL NO LONGER JUST A COMPLEX CITY. AND IT'S ABOUT GETTING THOSE CONNECTIONS PUT TOGETHER TO GET A PROJECT LIKE THIS TO MAKE IT MOVE AND TO GET IT PAST ALL THE HURDLES IT MAY RUN INTO. YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE GOT CHAMPIONS AND PEOPLE BEHIND YOU, IT'S GONNA HAVE A MUCH BETTER CHANCE OF GETTING ACROSS THE FINISH LINE AND SOME REASONABLE TIME PERIOD. SO, STEVE FLOOR IS YOURS. THANKS. PASS THE STUFF OUT WHILE YOU TALK. YEAH, WE HAVE SOME WRITTEN MATERIAL ABOUT OUR PROJECT, UH, BOTH FOR THE, THE STRUCTURE OF THE PROJECT AS WELL AS THE SERVICES THAT WE PLAN TO PROVIDE. SO WE'VE INTRODUCED OUR GROUP. SO DICK HALEY'S OUR CO-PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE GROUP FOR THE, UH, 1400 CHARITY. AND THAT'S THE LOCATION 14TH AND CHERRY. GOTTA LOVE CITY ZONING AND PLANNING WHERE WE'RE HAVING IT. EXACTLY 14 BEING ON THE CORNER, 14TH CHARITY. AND THAT'S WHERE OUR PROJECT IS LOCATED. WE, WE'VE JUST BEGUN THE PROCESS OF, UH, PREPARING FOR OUR PLANNING APPROVAL, BUT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT CONCEPTUALLY FOR OVER A YEAR NOW. UM, WE'VE COLLABORATED ACTUALLY WITH LEADERS IN THE MULTI-FAMILY MODULAR MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY. AND WE FELT LIKE WE HAVE FOUND A FORMULA BASED ON LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AND BEYOND, UH, PROJECTS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN GENERAL THAT, UH, HAVE BEEN SOME AS, UH, THE TALLEST 11 STORIES THAT YOU COULD BUILD MODULAR CITY OF LONG REACH ISN'T TOO KEEN ON 11 STORIES IN OUR LOCATION, BUT, BUT IT SHOWS THE ABILITY TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING AFFORDABLY. AND THAT'S THE KEY. THI THIS, HONESTLY, THIS IS OUR, OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE THIS BE HOW OUR, UH, MODEL PROJECT, OUR FIRST PROJECT. AND, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO COLLABORATE WITH OUR SOCIAL SERVICES DIRECTOR TO CONTINUE ON AND FULFILL ALL THE NEEDS THAT WE CAN IN, IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH FOR HOUSING. UM, WE'VE, UH, IT, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE ABOUT, WE'VE GOT SOME DESCRIPTION ABOUT THE PROJECT PHYSICALLY, WE'RE ABOUT 100 UNITS, UH, ON SITE, ALL ONE BEDROOM UNITS, UH, FOR FACILITY. AND WHAT'S EXCITING, I THINK MOST OF ALL, IS WE ARE GOING TO HAVE ONSITE SOCIAL SERVICES FOR BOTH RESIDENTIAL CARE AS WELL AS CASE MANAGEMENT. AND SO FOR ME, THE MEAT, UH, ON THE BONE HERE IS WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR THE VETS. AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A, A, A VETERAN FOCUSED, UH, HOUSING FACILITY IN TERMS OF, UH, UH, RESIDENTS THEMSELVES. AND I, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE, UH, VETERAN SOCIAL SERVICES DIRECTOR DARREN HENDON, WHO WILL BE THE KEY PARTY ON SITE FOR THE [00:10:01] SOCIAL SERVICES CARE, UH, UH, SERVICES. SO THE, THE FIRST FLOOR WILL HAVE THIS, UH, KIND OF LEVEL OF SERVICE DAY IN, DAY OUT. SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. AND I, AT THIS POINT, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE, UH, DARREN TO DESCRIBE HIS, THE, THIS LEVEL OF SERVICES. AND MR. KAYLEY HERE IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY, ANY STRUCTURAL OR DEVELOPMENT, UH, QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. WE'VE GOT SOME DETAIL THERE. BUT ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, OUR, OUR ARCHITECTURAL PLANS AND ENGINEERING WORK IS, UH, AT THE BEGINNING STAGES WHERE, UH, AND WE APPRECIATE, UH, KEN'S IF, IF, IF THE COMMISSION LIKES WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO HELP OPEN DOORS TO THE RIGHT DEPARTMENTS TO GET THE PROJECT FROM TODAY TO THE FINISH LINE. SO AT THIS POINT THOUGH, I'D LIKE, UH, TO INTRODUCE DARREN AND, AND TO HAVE HIM SPEAK ABOUT, UM, HIS BACKGROUND AND WHAT SERVICES HE'D LIKE TO PROVIDE. GREAT. GREAT. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. GOOD EVENING. UH, AGAIN, MY NAME IS DARREN HENDON AND I'M THE FOUNDER AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF VETERAN SOCIAL SERVICES, UH, INCORPORATED. AND, AND WHEN STEVE ASKED, TOLD ME ABOUT THIS MEETING, UM, I REALLY DIDN'T REALLY THINK ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, AND WHO WE WERE GONNA COME, COME TALK TO. UM, AND THEN IT HIT ME, UM, THE SIGNIFICANCE OF, UM, THE HONOR OF SPEAKING TO THE, THE VETERANS COMMISSION OF CITY OF PALM BEACH, UM, IS THAT I BECAME HOMELESS IN LONG BEACH. I BECAME HOMELESS AND I WAS ISSUED ONE OF THE S OF AS VOUCHERS BACK IN 2010, SORRY. AND TO COME FULL CIRCLE 20 YEARS LATER TO TALK TO THE CITY OF LONG BEACH ABOUT BRINGING THE SERVICES TO VETERANS THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO DUPLICATE, UM, WITH JUST MY STORY, UM, WITH AN ORGANIZATION THAT HAS BEEN, UM, CHOSEN AS THE SUICIDE PREVENTION, UH, GRANTEE FOR 2025. SO WE'RE THE ONLY ORGANIZATION THAT RECEIVED THE SUICIDE PREVENTION GRANTEE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF VETERAN AFFAIRS. SO OUR TERRITORY IS LA COUNTY, WHICH I PERSONALLY GO TO LONG BEACH, UH, VIA HOSPITAL. UM, BUT WE HAVE, UM, CONNECTIONS THAT, UH, WEST LA UM, LOMA LINDA. UM, SO WE WILL BE, UM, AS AN AGENCY, UM, STRENGTHENING OUR, OUR RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH, UM, AND THE HOUSING OF, UM, THE CITY OF LONG BEACH AND LONG BEACH VA. BUT WE'RE A PEER SUPPORT BASED, UM, VETERAN SERVICE ORGANIZATION. OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS ARE MOSTLY VETERANS. OUT OF THE SEVEN, UM, BOARD OF DIRECTORS, SIX OF THEM ARE VETERANS. UM, FOUR OF THEM ARE FEMALE VETERANS. UM, ONE OF OUR, ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS IS L-G-B-T-Q. SO WE BELIEVE IN DIVERSITY. UM, WE REALLY STRONGLY, AND WE'RE REALLY PUSHING THIS, IS THAT WOMEN, VETERANS, A LOT OF WOMEN VETERANS DON'T DECLARE THEMSELVES OR TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WOMEN BENEFITS BECAUSE OF THE BUREAUCRACY THAT IT HAS TO GO THROUGH, ESPECIALLY WITH HAVING CHILDREN. SO THEY DON'T SIGN UP THROUGH VASH TO GET THEIR VOUCHER. THEY GO THROUGH ANOTHER WAY EVEN TO GO GET THEIR SECTION EIGHT. RIGHT. ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT I'VE WORKED WITH AND, UM, AND I LOVE WORKING IN THE CITY AND I FEEL LIKE THAT I WOULD BE COMING BACK AND WORKING, UM, IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH IS, UM, ORGANIZATIONS AND, AND I I SAY WE, WE'VE HAD OURSELVES ON THE BACK WHEN WE HOUSE A VETERAN, RIGHT? RAY WING WANTS TO PAT THEMSELVES ON THE BACK, BUT NOW YOU, WHAT YOU'VE DONE IS YOU'VE PUT THAT VETERAN AND NOW, AND THAT ISOLATED INTO SITUATION, HE NOW HAS TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR, PRETTY MUCH FOR SOMETHING HE HASN'T PROBABLY HAD TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR 10 TO 15 YEARS. AND IF HE'S FORMERLY INCARCERATED, THEN WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT AS WELL, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE ONGOING MENTAL HEALTH [00:15:01] ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE DEALT WITH ONGOING. ONCE YOU GET PERMANENTLY HOUSED, I GUARANTEE THAT IF THERE IS A STATISTIC THAT YOU LOOK AT OF, OF VETERANS AND, AND ORGANIZATIONS PATTING THEMSELVES ON THE BACK SAYING, WE'VE HOUSED THIS CERTAIN AMOUNT OF VETERANS. WE HOUSE THIS. HOW MANY OF THOSE VETERANS THAT THEY HOUSE ARE STILL HOUSED TODAY? LIKE, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT. AND I GUARANTEE, I I, BECAUSE I'VE WORKED IN WITH THE HOUSING, THE VETERANS, THAT THE RECIDIVISM RATE IS NOT HIGH, BUT IT'S MORE THAN WHAT IT SHOULD BE. AND THAT WAS ONLY BECAUSE POSSIBLY THE, UM, I, I BROUGHT BROCHURES ABOUT ORGANIZATION. WE'VE BEEN OPERATING A BRIDGE HOUSING ORGANIZATION FOR SINCE 2019. UH, IT WAS A VERY UNIQUE BUILDING WITH 16 ROOMS AND ALL OF THE ROOMS HAD THEIR OWN PRIVATE BATHROOMS. AND WE TOOK ON A PILOT PROJECT, I TOOK ON A PILOT PROJECT JUDGE IS NOW STARTING THE NON-PROFIT OF THE NONPROFIT, OF FINDING A PLACE FOR, FOR VETERANS TO BE HOUSED, UH, SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD AFFORD. AND THERE WERE ONE ROOMS AND THEY HAD THEIR OWN BATHROOMS. AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THEY STUCK THROUGH THERE THROUGHOUT COVID WHEN A LOT OF SERVICE AGENCIES KIND OF STOPPED CASE MANAGEMENT AND STOP PROVIDING EMPLOYMENT ASSISTANCE TO THEM. WELL, THAT ALLOWED OUR ORGANIZATION TO PICK UP THE SLACK AND DO THAT DURING COVID, UH, FOR THOSE, BETTER FOR THOSE VETERANS TO HELP THEM SIGN UP. WE WE'RE ALSO, UH, A SNAP ENT PROVIDER. SO WE'LL, WE PROVIDE YOU SNAP, EMT TO ALL OF THOSE. UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH FORMERLY INCARCERATED VETERANS. OUR FACILITY IN LA HALF OF IT'S GONNA BE FOR MEN AND HALF OF IT'S GONNA BE FOR WOMEN. SO WE ARE REALLY PUSHING ON EXPENDING, EXTENDING OUR SERVICES TO LONG BEACH. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, WE'RE A PEER SUPPORT BASE. AND WE WANT TO BRING, UM, THIS WILL BE A PERMANENT, UM, SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROJECT. AND EVEN THOUGH THAT THEY WILL POSSIBLY USE THEIR VOUCHER, UM, TO BEGIN HOUSING, THEY STILL NEED TO SOME GUIDANCE. THEY STILL NEED ACCESS TO RESOURCES. UM, UM, ESPECIALLY THE WOMEN VETERANS, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY THE WOMEN, THE MEN, VETERANS ARE REALLY NOT HARD TO DO. IT'S THE WOMEN VETERAN THAT WE REALLY WANT TO GET ACROSS TO. SO, UM, I'M PASSIONATE. UM, ALL I DO IS LOOK AT MY OWN EXPERIENCE AND DUPLICATE AND HELP THE NEXT VETERAN. AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO. UM, WE'VE LOOKED AT THE EMPLOYMENT ASPECT OF VETERANS. A LOT OF VETERANS 60, 70 YEARS OLD, ESPECIALLY IF THEY FORMERLY INCARCERATED, THEY AIN'T GONNA GO TO MICROSOFT OFFICE TRAINING, , THEY'RE NOT GOING TO, THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET IN THE JOB FIELD. UM, AS A MICROSOFT, UH, OPERATOR, THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT, PROBABLY NOT. BUT ONE THING THAT THEY COULD DO IS THAT THEY CAN BE A PEER MENTOR FOR ANOTHER VETERAN THAT'S GETTING OUT OF THE MILITARY THAT'S TRANSITIONING FROM MILITARY TO CIVILIAN AND SHOW HIM AND HELP HIM NAVIGATE THE VA HOSPITAL, HOW TO GET HIS BENEFITS, HOW TO GET THIS, HOW TO GET THAT, YOU KNOW, HOW TO GET HOUSING. MOST VETERANS WHO GO INTO THE MILITARY, THEY DON'T HAVE A STABLE HOME THAT THEY HAD WHEN THEY WENT TO THE MILITARY. NINE TIMES OUT OF 10, WHEN THEY GO TO THE MILITARY, WHEN THEY COME BACK, THAT SAME DYSFUNCTIONAL HOUSEHOLD THAT THEY LEFT IS STILL THERE. IS STILL THERE. SO WE NEED TO SUPPORT OUR VETERANS ONCE WE GET HOUSED WITH MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT. UM, CONSTANT THINGS TO, UM, TO KEEP THEM. AND, AND I JUST FOUND THIS OUT AND I'VE BEEN SERVING FORMERLY INCARCERATED VETERANS. I DIDN'T KNOW THIS, I JUST FOUND THIS OUT THE OTHER DAY. UM, THAT FORMERLY INCARCERATED VETERANS ARE THREE TIMES MORE LIKELY TO COMMIT SUICIDE. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. UH, SO IT, IT, BUT WHAT IT DOES IS IT, IT EVEN STRENGTHENS OUR CAUSE FOR AN ORGANIZATION TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY, WORK WITH THE CITIES, DEFINITELY WORK, WORK WITH, UH, CITY OF LONG BEACH, UH, AND HAVING A DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL ALLOW, UM, US, BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA JUST SERVE VETERANS. WE'RE GONNA SERVE THE GENERAL POPULATIONS AS WELL. THEY NEED IT. THEY NEED PEER SUPPORT AS WELL. THEY NEED MENTAL HEALTH, UM, SUPPORTS AS WELL. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE GOT A CRISIS. I MEAN, AND THIS COMMISSION [00:20:01] IS HERE TO SOLVE PROBLEMS. SO I'M HERE TO SOLVE PROBLEMS AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN SOLVE PROBLEMS TOGETHER AND WORK ON THE SAME TEAM. AND I'D LOVE TO WORK WITHIN THE, UM, COMPLIANCE TO SIT LONG BEACH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, I'LL GO, UH, JIM, AND THEN I'LL GO TO KEN. UH, I CAN GO LEFT. I GOT THREE. YOU HAVE THREE? OKAY. KEN, AND THEN JIM, ONE ISSUE I'VE COME ACROSS AT SOME OF OUR EVENTS IS, UM, DEALING WITH MARRIED, VETERAN, MARRIED, HOMELESS, VETERANS. HOW ARE YOU, IS THERE ANY WAY TO DEAL WITH THAT MORE EQUITABLY? BECAUSE I, I FIGURE IT WOULDN'T BE TERRIBLE IF THEY WERE IN THE SAME BUILDING, AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, THIS HALF MEN, THIS HALF WOMEN, AND THERE WAS THE SAME BUILDING AND IT WOULDN'T BE TOO BAD RATHER THAN ONE'S ON THIS SIDE OF TOWN, ONE'S OVER ON THIS SIDE OF TOWN, PREFERABLY IN THE SAME ONE BEDROOM WOULD BE OPTIMAL. BUT I'M TALK NOT JUST TALKING FRIENDS OR ACQUAINTANCES OR WHATEVER, I'M TALKING LEGALLY MARRIED SPOUSES WHO ARE BOTH FINDING THEMSELVES OLDER AND HOMELESS, BUT THE SYSTEM ITSELF IS NOT DESIGNED FOR THEM. HOW WOULD YOU GUYS DEAL WITH THAT? SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS WE'VE PARTNERED WITH MOTEL OWNERS IN LA AND CHISELED OUT, MOST OF THEM HAVE 26 ROOMS TO PROVIDE BRIDGE HOUSING AT THE MOTELS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE, THE PROBLEM WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS FAMILY, UH, IS MARRIED, IS TRYING TO FIND TEMPORARY HOUSING FOR THEM. RIGHT. UNTIL THEY GET THEIR VOUCHER. YOU KNOW, UNTIL THEY CAN GET SOME TYPE OF, UH, FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, TEMPORARY ASSISTANCE FOR WELL, IF THEY CAME TO YOUR NEW ONE, YOUR BUILDING, IT'S A VASH SECTION EIGHT. THEY'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOTTEN 'EM THEIR VASH CERTIFICATE. CORRECT. WOULD THEY BE ABLE AS A COUPLE TO LIVE IN ONE OF THOSE ONE BEDROOM UNITS? ABSOLUTELY. YOU JUST HAVE TO ADD HER INCOME. THAT'S FINE. THAT'S, THAT WAS MY QUESTION. YES. BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN IN BOTH, THAT ANSWERS BOTH QUESTIONS. 'CAUSE THAT'S BEEN A CONCERN. 'CAUSE I HAVE HAD VETERANS COME UP AND SAY, YOU KNOW, YES, THEY WANT ME TO GO TO THIS SHELF, THIS PLACE, AND THEY WANT MY WIFE TO GO TO THIS PLACE. AND THAT'S HARD. RIGHT? RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. SO IT WOULD BE MOSTLY THE VETERAN, WHOEVER THE VETERAN IS THAT THEY, THEY WOULD GO UNDER THE VETERAN RIGHT. AND DISCLOSE WHATEVER RIGHT. INCOMES THAT, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE ALL AT TENANTS OF THE HOUSE WITH THEIR CHILDREN. THEY JUST PROVIDE THEIR, UM, BIRTH CERTIFICATE. UM, YOU KNOW, FOR IF THEY HAD DEPENDEN, BUT YES. OKAY. BUT THAT IS A DIFFICULT THING FOR, FOR FAMILIES TO FIND TEMPORARY HOUSING. THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S A, THAT'S A HARD, THAT'S, THERE'S NOT MANY OPPORTUNITIES AND, AND I, BELIEVE ME, I'M WORKING ON THAT. I'M WORKING ON IT, BUT IT'S NOT THERE. OKAY. WELL, AND, AND I WOULD ADD TO THAT IS THAT, LIKE I SAID BEFORE THIS, OUR GOAL IS THIS IS OUR FIRST PROJECT. YEAH. WE'RE DEVELOPING WHAT WE'RE CALLING A MASTER PLAN, UH, LONG RANGE PLAN OF ADDITIONAL FACILITIES FOCUSING AND ADDRESSING ADDITIONAL NEEDS. AND, UH, WE WILL PUT LIFE TO THAT WHEN WE FIND DIFFERENT REAL ESTATE OPPORTUNITIES THAT CAN FULFILL THOSE NEEDS. SO THERE'S DIVERSITY IN EVERYBODY'S PLIGHT AND, UH, AND I, THEIR DYNAMICS. SO MAYBE, UH, FAMILY FRIENDLY, UH, SPECIFIC HOUSING, MAYBE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD ALL PURSUE TOGETHER. MINE WAS TO TO PLANT SEEDS. YEAH, NO, EXACTLY. THAT WAS, THAT WAS MY PURPOSE. YEAH. IT MAY NOT BE THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY, I GET THAT. GOTCHA. BUT TO PLANT THE SEEDS OF FURTHER PROJECTS, THAT, THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT IS OUT THERE THAT NEEDS TO THIS KIND OF PROJECT IN FUTURE OF DIFFERENT DESIGN COULD ADDRESS MM-HMM . DOES I GET JIM, I GO WITH YOU, JIM. ABSOLUTELY. FIRST QUESTION, UH, FOR VSS OR WHO, WHO DO Y'ALL USE IF I MAY ASK FOR LIKE PEER SUPPORT CERTIFICATION OR TRAINING? SO I WENT THROUGH LMU MM-HMM . UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHO I PREFER. UM, SO WE HAVE A THING WITH US VETS. UH, AND WE HAD TALKED WHEN I HAD GRADUATED LAST YEAR, MATTER OF FACT, MY INSTRUCTOR IS ON OUR BOARD, YOU KNOW, SO, UM, BUT WE HAD TALKED TO THEM ABOUT A PARTNERSHIP UNDER APPRENTICESHIP, UM, WHERE US VETS WHEN THEY GO THROUGH THAT PROGRAM AND GET THEIR CERTIFICATION, THAT THEY WILL TEMPORARILY PAY THEM FOR INTERNING AT AN ORGANIZATION. KIND OF LIKE A, A, A PAID INTERN TO MAYBE WORK WITH A VETERAN SERVICE OR, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE PEER SUPPORT PEOPLE COME THROUGH OUR AGENCY WORKING [00:25:01] NOW, THEY MAY WORK, WE MAY HIRE THEM, BUT IT GIVES THEM THE EXPOSURE OF WORKING WITH BETTER. SEE IF THIS, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY REALLY WANT TO DO WITH IT. AND I HAVEN'T MET A VETERAN YET WHO DIDN'T WANT TO BE, YOU KNOW, SUPER DUPER PEER SUPPORT SPECIALIST, , YOU KNOW, THEY ALL, THEY ALL WANT TO HELP. THEY ALL WANT TO HELP WHATEVER BEST WAY THEY CAN. THANK YOU. AND THEN, UM, FOR THE ACTUAL UNIT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY PRIVATE SERVICES NOT THE VS. WOULD THEY BE TENANT BASED VOUCHERS OR WOULD THIS BE SOME PROJECT BASED VOUCHER? WOULD THEY BE EITHER THE UNIT OR WOULD THEY BE THE VETERAN'S TENANT BASED VOUCHER? LIKE, HEY, WE'RE GETTING A RENT ANYWHERE ELSE? YOU KNOW, THERE'S TWO TYPES OR PROJECT BASED. SO ONE IS A LONGER PROCESS, ONE IS A LONGER PROCESS. WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THE FASTER PROCESS. EITHER PROJECT BASE IT OR JUST TENANT BASE. PROBABLY TENANT BASE PROBABLY WOULD BE FASTER. YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE FASTER. UM, BUT THAT'S AN OPTION. WE WANT TO, IF WE CAN PROJECT BASE IT, WE WANT TO PROJECT BASE IT BECAUSE WE JUST WANT THAT BLANKET. YOU KEEP ONE FOREVER THEN AT THAT POINT WE KEEP THEM FOREVER. SO IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT POPULATION YOU'RE SERVING, THAT SUBSIDY BELONGS TO THAT UNIT, YOU KNOW. AND THEN, UM, I GUESS MY JIM, BEFORE YOU GO, CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD, AND FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PROJECT BASED AND TENANT BASE? OKAY, SO PROJECT BASED VOUCHERS, THEY BELONG TO THE DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. THEY'RE ATTACHED TO DEVELOPMENT. SO IF THERE'S A HUNDRED UNITS, THERE IS A VOUCHER FOR EVERY ONE OF THOSE UNITS AND THEY ARE ATTACHED TO THAT. AND YOU QUALIFY FOR THE SAME AS YOU DO AS AN INDIVIDUAL VOUCHER. YOU JUST RELINQUISH YOUR TENANT BASED VOUCHER THAT YOU CAN TAKE ANYWHERE TO THE PROJECT BASED VOUCHER. AND THOSE TERMS ARE THE SAME AS WELL, IF SOMEONE WAS TO MOVE IN, THEY CAN LIVE UP TO A YEAR BEFORE THEY CAN PORT IT ANYWHERE ELSE. THEY CAN PORT IT ACROSS THE COUNTRY IF THEY WANT. BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OUR CASE MANAGEMENT DOES, IS WE EDUCATE THE PARTICIPANT ON LETTING THEM KNOW THEIR OPTIONS AND WHAT IT IS THAT THEY DOING. UM, I RAN ACROSS A GRANT TO WHERE THIS IS SOUNDS CRAZY, BUT IT IS FOR A LONG LOST FAMILY MEMBER. IF THERE'S A LONG LOST FAMILY MEMBER, THEY'LL GIVE THE GRANT TO FLY THEM TO WHERE THEY ARE. MM-HMM . IT'S CRAZY. THEY, THEY GOT ALL KINDS OF STUFF. THEY GOT ALL KINDS OF STUFF. SO, YOU KNOW, SO THAT IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO. UM, WE JUST, YES. AND I WAS JUST SAYING, LIKE, TO CLARIFY, UH, WELL I I'VE ALWAYS LIKED IT IS PROJECT BASED VOUCHERS ARE MORE LIKE, THIS PLACE NEEDS A VETERAN, TENANT BASED DOCTORS BEING THIS VETERAN NEEDS A PLACE. IF THAT MAKES SENSE. MM-HMM . MM-HMM . AND THEN, UM, MY THIRD QUESTION JUST, AND THIS MAY BE FOR Y'ALL. UH, I'M IN A 60-YEAR-OLD PLACE, YOU KNOW, IN LONG BEACH. SO, YOU KNOW, I SEE, YOU KNOW, IT, IT IS SHOWN ITS AGE A LITTLE BIT, BUT YOU KNOW, MY, UH, MY LANDLORD DOES FANTASTIC UPKEEP, THINGS LIKE THAT. WITH A MODULAR, IS IT MORE LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE TRADITIONAL BUILDING WHERE IT'S, IT CAN BE LITTLE BY LITTLE UPKEEP OR IS THIS LIKE I, 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW, IS THIS SOMETHING LIKE THE, THE BRIDGE WHERE YOU REACH A POINT WHERE MASSIVE STUFF HAS TO BE DONE TO FIX IT? IS THERE A LIFESPAN ON MODULAR THAT'S ANY DIFFERENT THAN TRADITIONAL? I, I CAN HANDLE THAT ONE. YEAH, THAT'S PLEASE . ALRIGHT. YEAH. I'M SUITS, BOOTS, BOOTS. WE JUST BUY, SO THE MODULAR PEOPLE, THE FIRST THING I ALWAYS GET HIT WITH, OH, YOU, YOU GOT SHIPPING CONTAINERS AND YOU'RE DOING NO, UM, MODULAR COMES IN WOOD STEEL, LIGHT GAUGE STEEL AND, AND A LOT OF THE TRADITIONAL BUILDERS, AND I'M GONNA GET THE ANSWER, BUT THAT'S KIND OF BUILT TO IT. MM-HMM . UM, AND STAYED AWAY FROM IT BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL GEARED UP WITH CONSTRUCTION CREWS AND HOW TO DO IT. TRADITIONALLY. AND WHEN I STARTED LOOKING AT, AT MODULARS FOR PUTTING THESE UNITS IN THE BACKYARDS OF MY CLIENTS, 'CAUSE I'M A REAL, I'M A BROKER BY BACKGROUND, WE WERE PUTTING INTO THE BACKYARD. I'M THINKING, WHY COULDN'T YOU STACK 'EM DEVELOP? AND YES YOU CAN. AND YES THEY DO. BUT THE LIGHT GAUGE STEEL DEVELOPMENT HAS MADE 6, 7, 8, AND 10 STORIES POSSIBLE. AND THEY SHIPPED THEM COMPLETELY SEALED, TESTED AT THE MANUFACTURING SITE. 'CAUSE THEY'RE DESIGNED AT AND APPROVED. AND THE RECORDS ARE KEPT IN SACRAMENTO [00:30:02] SO THAT WHEN YOU DO THE ONSITE INSPECTIONS AFTER THEY SET THEM IN PLACE, IT'S ALL THE EXTERNAL CONNECTIONS. SO A LOT OF THE MAINTENANCE ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE ARE JUST LIKE ANYWHERE ELSE. IF YOU WALKED INSIDE ONE OF THESE BUILDINGS AND THEY'RE DOTTED AROUND LA YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THEIR MODULAR UNLESS I TOLD YOU THE SKINNING, THE CLADDING, THE ROOFING AND ALL THAT MAKES 'EM LOOK NORMAL. NOW, A COUPLE INTERESTING ANGLES, UH, THAT YOU'RE OUR FIRST GROUP WE REALLY SHOWED THIS TO OUTSIDE OF THE PEOPLE FROM ENGINEERS THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH, YOU KNOW, A DRIP PAN IS ON A WATER HEATER. OKAY, WELL THESE HAVE DRIP PANS ON THE ROOFS. SO IF THIS GUY LEAVES HIS WATER ON AND THE OVERFLOWS IT GOES TO THE ROOF DRIP PAN AND THE SEWER SYSTEM, IT DOESN'T CASCADE DOWN BELOW THE FLOORS. THE LIGHT GAUGE STEEL SYSTEM IS FLEXIBLE, BUT IT'S ALSO ACCURATE TO WITHIN A HUNDRED OF AN INCH WHEN THEY STAMP THESE THINGS OUT. WHEN YOU DO WOOD AND STEEL, YOU CAN'T APPROACH THOSE KINDS OF DIMENSIONS SO THAT WHEN YOU STACK, YOU DON'T GET THIS DIVERGENCE AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU GOTTA PULL 'EM BACK TOGETHER AGAIN. ALL THE PLUMBING, EVERYTHING GOING AT 'EM, THERE'S NEW MATERIALS. UH, THERE WON'T BE ANY GAS. IT'S ALL ELECTRIC AND WATER. SO THE UPGRADE OVER TIME, YOU CAN GET BETWEEN THEM. THERE'S ACCESS PANELS, YOU CAN GET IN THERE AND FIX THINGS. SO THERE'S NO REASON TO SAY, WELL, YOU CAN'T DIG DOWN THE FOUNDATION. IT'S ALL BEEN WALLED UP BEHIND DRYWALL. UH, YOU CAN'T UPDATE ANYTHING. IT'S NOT TRUE. EVEN THE INDIVIDUAL WATER METERS ON EACH AND EVERY UNIT ARE ABOUT THIS PATIENT AND THEY'RE ALL BLUETOOTH CONNECTED, SO THEY'RE INDIVIDUALLY READER. UM, IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM, THEY'RE ACTUALLY SENSORS BUILT INTO THEM THAT TELL YOU SOMETHING, STOP WORKING. SO IF THE PERSON'S NOT PAYING ATTENTION, WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. THAT'S ALL EASY TECHNOLOGY IN THE WORLD OF TODAY. BUT THE PEOPLE BUILDING THESE THINGS, THEY CAN GET 'EM DONE 18 MONTHS. THE SLOWEST PART'S, THE CITY, THE APPLICATION PLAN, THEN THE BUILDING PERMIT, WE GET IT DONE. ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF THAT TIME IS THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN BECAUSE IT'S STACKED, CLAD, ROOFED TIED TOGETHER THE SLOWEST PARTS OF THE PODIUM, WHICH IS THE CONCRETE FOUNDATION THAT GOES UNDERNEATH IT. AND, UM, YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE UPDATEABLE. THEY REALLY ARE. THEY'RE MODULAR FROM BEGINNING TO END OF THE PANELS, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS. OH. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? IT DOES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM, UM, FROM COMMISSIONERS? UM, SO FIRST, UM, THANK YOU GUYS. UM, SO MY QUESTION FIRST, MR. UM, DARREN? YES. HMM. UM, SO WHAT IS THE, THE PROCESS FOR, UM, VETERAN SERVICE, VETERAN SOCIAL SERVICES? ARE YOU IN THAT, UH, LIST OF OPTIONS FOR PLACING VETERANS? LIKE IF THEY CALL THE VA, IF THEY CALL SOME OF THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THEIR VASH VOUCHER? SO WE ARE CONNECTED THROUGH THE VA, THROUGH THE MENTAL HEALTH. OKAY. RIGHT. UM, WE ARE IN, WE'VE BEEN OPERATING IN LOS ANGELES, SO WE HAVEN'T, WE'LL SAY ESTABLISHED FOOTING IN, UM, LONG BEACH, BUT WE'RE LA COUNTY, SO WE, WE WORK WHEREVER. UM, BUT IT'S JUST TAKING OUR SERVICE, WHAT'S BEEN WORKING WHERE WE ARE AND, AND TAKING IT INTO ANOTHER CITY. THAT'S IT. AND WHAT IS, UM, WHAT IS, WELL WE HAVE CASE MANAGERS AND WE HAVE PEER SUPPORT SPECIALISTS. MM-HMM . UM, WE HAVE A VETERAN PROGRAM DIRECTOR MM-HMM . AND WE HAVE A LICENSED CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER AND WE HAVE A CASE MANAGER. SO WHAT IS, SO WHAT IS NEEDED, UM, DOWN SOUTH HERE IN THE LONG BEACH AREA FOR VETERANS THAT ARE CALLING, SAY THE MULTI SERVICE CENTER OR SOME OF THE OTHER RIGHT RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE SURE. FOR YOU TO BE, FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR ORGANIZATION TO BE ADDED TO THAT LIST SURE. OF, OF RECOMMENDED, UH, PROGRAMS AND SERVICES. ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. ESPECIALLY, I USED TO WORK AT A MULTI-SERVICE SERVICE. SO A PERFECT EXAMPLE WOULD BE A VETERAN WHO WANTED, UM, UM, TO FILE THEIR BENEFITS. MM-HMM . THEY NEEDED ASSISTANCE FILE. WE DO THAT. WE HELP, WE HELP PEOPLE FILE THEIR BENEFITS. SO WE COULD BE ON THAT, THAT REGISTRY, UM OKAY. TO BE ABLE TO SERVE, YOU KNOW, ANYONE IN THE LONG BEACH AREA AT THAT. MOST DEFINITELY. AND THEN ALSO THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM, YOU MENTIONED, UM, I KNOW YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE MAINLY CONNECTED THROUGH, THROUGH THE MENTAL HEALTH AND PROVIDING PEER SUPPORT MM-HMM . UM, AND ALSO FOR FORMERLY INCARCERATED VETERANS. BUT, UM, ALSO, UH, WITH THE DIFFERENT, UM, UM, SERVICES THAT YOU'RE OFFERING, DO [00:35:01] YOU OFFER, SAY VETERANS THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO GO FROM THEIR EDUCATIONAL BENEFITS, I'M SORRY, THEIR MILITARY BENE THEIR MILITARY EDUCATION AND TRAINING TO THEIR SAY CIVILIAN. DO YOU HELP THEM WITH THAT PROGRAM AS WELL? YEAH, A ABSOLUTELY. SO ONE OF THE THINGS, ONE, ONE OF THE GOALS WAS I WANTED TO, IN INITIALLY WAS TO REACH INTO THE DOD TO GET US ACCLIMATED OF WHO WE ARE PRIOR TO THEM BEING RELEASED, RIGHT? SO WE ARE ON THE MILITARY SITE, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME, BUT ANYWAY, ANY VETERAN THAT'S BEING RELEASED WITHIN A YEAR, THEY'RE GIVEN ACCESS TO THIS SITE TO LOOK AT RESOURCES FOR WHATEVER CITY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN. MM-HMM . WE'RE ON THAT. IT'S, IT'S CALLED MILL CONNECT. MILL CONNECT MILL SOURCE. A MILL CONNECT. OKAY. SO IF THEY LOOK FOR HOUSING IN THIS AREA, WE WILL POP UP. OKAY. IF THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, UM, CASE MANAGEMENT OR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, WE WILL POP UP. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, AND THEN THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THAT. UM, SO MY, MY OTHER SUIT, MR. UM, STEVEN, AND THEN I WENT TO BOOTS , SHE KIND ON, I, I PICKED UP ONTO THAT . UM, SO, BECAUSE IN HERE IT SAYS PROPOSED, UM, YEAH. THE, DOES THE CITY, CITY COUNCIL, DO THEY KNOW ABOUT THAT? WHAT'S THE NEXT STEPS AND ACTIONS FOR YOU GUYS? YEAH, I MEAN, WE'RE ABOUT TO ANSWER THAT. YEAH. THREE MONTHS FROM MAKING OUR FIRST PRESENTATION, SINCE WE HAVE TO SUBMIT TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, UHHUH, AND WE HAVE, WE HAD A DELAY. WE WERE READY LAST MAY TO DO THIS, AND WE LOST OUR DIRT. AND, UH, SO WE HAVE SWITCHED, WE FOUND NEW PIECE OF DIRT AND UM, AND IT'S ACTUALLY BETTER SUITED TO WHAT WE WANT AT 1400 CHERRY. AND SO ALL THE PLANTS, WELL, SMALL ADJUSTMENTS ARE BACK IN PLAY AGAIN. MM-HMM . SO WE'RE RAPIDLY PUTTING TOGETHER THE DRAWINGS AND ALL THE PLANNING ACTIVITY. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOIL SAMPLES ON THE SITE MM-HMM . YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR RESOURCES FROM THE UTILITY COMPANIES TO TELL YOU, WE CAN BRING YOU THE AMPS YOU NEED TO POWER YOUR BUILDING. ALL THAT HAS TO BE ANSWERED. WE HAVE TO HAVE WHAT I CALL THE TORCHES AND PITCH PORTS. WE HAVE TO LET THE NEIGHBORHOOD KNOW THAT THEY'RE COMING IN AND THEY GET TO OBJECT IF YOU WANT. MM-HMM . UH, ALL THAT SORT OF THING. BUT IN THAT PACKAGE, WHICH OPEN THE DOOR FOR US WAS THE REZONING PLAN. AND EVEN THOUGH OUR PROJECT WILL HAPPEN BEFORE THE REZONING PLAN IS FINAL, WE ARE NOT IN CONCURRENT OR IN AGREEMENT WITH THE, WITH THE NEW PLANS STATED, UH, RULES OR REGULATIONS SO THAT WE FIT MM-HMM . AND, UH, SO THEY'LL GIVE US A CONDITIONAL USE. CONDITIONAL USE. YEAH. UM, AND THANK YOU. AND WE, UM, UH, LONG BEACH IS NOT ANY DIFFERENT THAN LA COUNTY AND THE OH, A LOT EASIER. RIGHT. UM, BUT, AND, AND, AND WE HAVE A HOUSING, RIGHT. . RIGHT. THEN I, I HAVE SOME COFFEE. UM, SO BECAUSE WE HAVE LIKE A HOUSING SHORTAGE AND, AND YOU SAID LIKE THESE UNITS, AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH WITH VETERANS IN MIND, IF, LIKE WITH THE CITY, UM, IS THERE LIKE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE THAT YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO NEGOTIATE VETERANS VERSUS SAY NOW IT'S PERCENT, 100%. IF THERE'S, IT'S IT'S VETERAN FOCUSED. VETERAN FOCUSED AND YOU KNOW, WE, WE LEARN AND LISTEN AND, YOU KNOW, CONFIRM THE NEEDS, CONFIRM THE RESOURCES MM-HMM . AND THE OPPORTUNITIES AND BLEND THEM TO A SUCCESSFUL FACILITY. SO IT'S, IT'S BETTER IN FOCUS FOR SURE. MM-HMM . BUT IT'S A JOURNEY RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH CHRISTOPHER KOONTZ'S TEAM AS FAR AS THE CONCEPT OF THE MULTIFAMILY MODULAR, THE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT THE, THIS, THIS STATE IS MANDATED LONG BEACH AND EVERYBODY ELSE TO HIT SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING. MODERATE INCOME HOUSING IS A PIECE OF CAKE. IT'S A CAKEWALK LOW INCOME AND TRANSITIONAL ISN'T. AND THAT'S WHY COIN, YOU KNOW, SAYING BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AFFORDABLY ISN'T EASY. UH, SO CONCEPTUALLY WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY FOR SEVERAL MONTHS ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF IT, BUT, UH, HOW WE MAKE THIS SUCCESSFUL, UH, IT IS, WE'RE GONNA LISTEN A LOT, FIND OUT WHAT THE RESOURCES ARE TO HAVE A A A HUNDRED PERCENT OCCUPANCY SUCCESSFUL, UH, PROJECT. UH, THAT'S WHY YOUR QUESTION ABOUT TENANT BASED VOUCHER VERSUS PROJECT BASED, OUR PREFERENCE IS PROJECT BASED, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO SACRIFICE VACANCY. UH, IT, IT DEFINITELY LONG-TERM VACANCY IN, IN PURSUIT OF, UH, PROJECT BASE. SO WE'RE GONNA GET AS MUCH PROJECT [00:40:01] BASE AS WE CAN AND GO TENANT BASE. AND YOU CAN TELL ME WHETHER WE COULD CONTINUE TO PURSUE OUR PROJECT BASED WHILE WE HAVE TENANT BASE . YEAH. SO, SO THE GOAL IS TO WORK WITH ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE THE VOUCHERS AND THEN WE, WE WILL BE AN ORGANIZATION THAT WILL GET OUR OWN VOUCHERS. BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE HEARD IS THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH VOUCHERS TO FILL UP A HUNDRED UNIT COMPLEX RIGHT NOW. ISN'T THAT WHAT THEY TOLD US? WITH, WITH, UH, WITH VASH? JUST SPECIFICALLY VASH. WITH VASH, IT'S AN UPHILL, YEAH. WITH, WITH VASH. SO VASH ON THEIR CASELOAD, THERE ARE NOT A HUNDRED VETERANS WITH I I THINK THERE IS MORE. I I REALLY DO. MM-HMM . I I REALLY DO. WELL, IF YOU, IF YOU COULD JUST KEEP US, UM, A, UH, NOTICE OF WHEN YOU WILL BE PRESENTING TO CITY COUNCIL AND SOME OF THE OTHER OUTREACH THAT YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY. WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY, RIGHT? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AND, AND YOUR INPUT. I MEAN, WE'RE A COMMUNITY, RIGHT? WE, WE, HE LIVED IN LONG BEACH, DICK KALEY AND I LIVE IN LONG BEACH. WE DO BUSINESS IN LONG BEACH AND WE WANNA SERVE LONG BEACH. AND THAT'S OUR GOAL. SO, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL OF US ARE SMARTER THAN ONE OF US. SO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU ALL WANT TO SAY. AND IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE WANT TO HEAR THE REST OF THAT SENTENCE. I'VE DEALT WITH LA IN LONG BEACH. I HEAR LA I GET THE CAR ON TOP. . YEAH. ANOTHER STORY. IS THERE ANY OTHER KIM? YEAH, JUST, UM, AS THIS PROCEEDS FORWARD, AS YOU COME TO PLACES THAT YOU NEED CONNECTION. 'CAUSE NOW THAT WE KNOW ABOUT IT, WE CAN, AS WE SEE OUR COUNCIL PEOPLE, WE CAN SHARE ABOUT IT. CORRECT. SO WE CAN START GARNERING THE CHAMPIONS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED LATER ON IN THE PROCESS. 'CAUSE THAT'S HOW IT'S GONNA BE, IS THIS, WE FIND YOUR MINIMUM OF FIVE CHAMPIONS IN, IN THE COUNCIL WHO WILL BACK UP THE, WHO WILL LOVE THE IDEA AS MUCH AS WE'RE HEARING AND SAY, YES, WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA. SO WHEN THINGS POP UP IN FRONT OF YOU AND SAY, I'M GOING TO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SYSTEM POPS UP, IT IS THE SYSTEM THEY CAN CALL A CALL FROM THEM OR THE CALL FROM THE MAYOR, A CALL FROM SOMEBODY SOMETIMES MAKES THINGS MOVE. WELL, AND, AND TOWARD THAT END, KEN, BEFORE I WAS IN LENDING AND REAL ESTATE FINANCE, I WORKED SEVEN YEARS IN CITY MANAGEMENT. OKAY. AND THERE'S A BIT OF AN ETIQUETTE IN YEAH. IN HOW YOU DO IT. IN, IN WHAT SEQUENCE? OH, YEAH. SO I, WHEN IT COMES TO THAT POINT, SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A, A AUDIENCE WITH THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL, PERSON COUNCIL IN AND THE MAYOR, SHE'S, UH, I THINK IT'S SIX. IT'S SIX. IT LOOKS, IT LOOKS LIKE IT HAD SIX DISTRICT. YEAH. YEAH. WE'LL, YEAH. WE'LL PROBABLY HANG OUT IN SIX QUITE A BIT BASED ON A LOT OF REASONS. AND, UH, AND, BUT THIS ONE IS SIX. AND WE, WE'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE HER KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. AND GENTLY THOUGH, I MEAN, AND THEN WORK WITH, UH, MR. KUNZ'S STAFF TO, UH, PURSUE. I JUST, AND THAT'S THE, I THINK IT'S A COURTESY AND THAT'S THE BEST WAY IS TO HAVE A MEETING WITH HER AND SHARE THE PROJECT WITH HER. YEAH. WORK. SO, SO IT DOESN'T COME AS A SURPRISE TO HER. RIGHT. SHE ISN'T ON THE STREET ABOUT IT AND GOES, WHAT THE HECK IS THIS? NO. YEAH. YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR, SHE DOESN'T WANT TO READ ABOUT THAT. YEAH. WE WANT PRESENT IT TO HER. AND, AND IN MY EXPERIENCE, ALSO IN GOVERNMENT, UH, EXPERIENCES, UM, I GET MY MEETINGS SCHEDULED A LITTLE QUICKER WHEN THE, THE COUNCIL PERSON'S ADMIN OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, UH, SETS UP THE, THE MEET WITH, WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF. SO I, YOU KNOW, IT, THINGS MAGICALLY HAPPEN A LITTLE QUICKER WITH MEETINGS AND, AND FOLLOW UP. SO I THINK IT'S A FRONT END, NOT A, NOT A DOWN THE ROAD. UH, AND, AND WITH REX AS WELL, I, I, I WOULD LIKE HIM TO HEAR, UH, THIS, I, I HAVE SOME ACCESS WITH HIM AS WELL, BUT COMING FROM THIS COMMISSION, THIS BODY, UH, I, I USING THE WORD ENDORSEMENT, UH, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SAY FOR NOW, WE, WE JUST MAD . YES. BUT, WELL, WE'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, BUT I MEAN, THINK WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME, UH, SIDE ON THE, ON THE PUBLIC PURPOSE IS THAT WE'D LIKE HIM TO HEAR IT. YEAH. WELL, ABSOLUTELY. WE'RE, WE DEFINITELY PUT, SO THOSE ARE FRONT BURNER JOB, UH, APPOINTMENTS, ACTION ITEMS. YES. TAKE AWAY. THANK YOU. UH, JIM, I HAD A QUESTION THAT I KNOW JESSE. YEAH. WE'LL DO PUBLIC COMMENT. JESSE, WHAT'S THERE NOW? OH, WHAT'S, OKAY. LARGE, BUILT THE FIFTIES, UM, MOSTLY VACANT. THE ONE CORNER IS A 26 YEAR RESIDE TENANT, A BAKERY. AND, UH, I SAT OUT THERE, I'VE BEEN IN THERE, TALKED TO THEM. THEY'RE MONTH TO MONTH TENS, THEY DON'T REALLY DO BAKING. THEY RECEIVE THEIR SWEET BREADS. IT'S A SPANISH ORIENTED SWEET BREADS. AND THEY PUT 'EM IN THEIR CASES AND THEY'LL MAKE [00:45:01] YOU A SMOOTHIE OR BUILD YOU A SANDWICH OR HAVE A COFFEE. AND THEN THEY ALSO GET AN ADDITIONAL BUTTER OR DAIRY MILK KIND OF STUFF. I SEE KIDS WALKING IN AND WALKING OUT WITH A GALLON OF MILK. UM, IT'S BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME. EVERYBODY KNOWS IT. SO IN OUR PLANS, WE SAID, WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE YOU A SPOT AND WE'LL MAKE YOU A DEAL FOR THE RENT. AND YOU CAN HAVE IT IN THE SAME PLACE PERFECTLY. OKAY. WITH US. UM, THE CHALLENGE FOR US IS GOING TO BE ONCE WE START DEMO TO THE POINT WHERE I HAVE TO SAY HERE THE KEYS. YOU CAN PUT YOUR BAKERY IN THERE. IT'S GONNA BE 10, 12 MONTHS. NOW THAT'S REALLY FAST IN THE CONSTRUCTION WORLD. YEAH. I MEAN, AND WE WERE DOING STICK BUILD. THIS WOULD BE THREE TO FOUR YEARS, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BAKERY'S GONNA BE ABLE TO DO FOR THAT. YEAH. WE'RE, WE'RE FLOATING THE IDEA OF A FOOD TRUCK KIND OF CONCEPT FOR THEM. MM-HMM . I MEAN, THE WORKERS WILL NEED IT ANYWAY. ALTHOUGH WITH MODULAR, MOST OF YOUR WORK IS DONE OFF SITE EXCEPT FOR THE EXTERIOR. IT'S INTERESTING. THE FIRST FLOOR IS, IS TRADITIONAL WALLS AND EVERYTHING. WE PARTITION THE INSIDE OF LIKE ONE, ONE, THEN THE STACK HAPPENS ON TOP OF THAT. MM-HMM . WHERE DO THEY COME IN FROM? OH, WELL, UH, THEY WERE GONNA BE COMING FROM CARSON, BUT THE MANUFACTURER'S MOVING FROM BANNING, SO THEY'LL BE COMING FROM BANNING. OKAY. NOW, WE HAD A PREVIOUS SUPPLIER THAT WAS MAKING THEM INTO AND WE WENT OUT AND LOOKED AT THEIR FACILITY, GOT A LITTLE CASE OF NERVOUSNESS ABOUT THE QUALITY CONTROL. AND THEN WITH THE LATEST ELECTIONS OF POTENTIAL, UH, TARIFFS, WE DON'T NEED A 25% KICKER ON TOP OF WE'RE DOING, WE'RE GONNA KEEP IT IN THE US TOO VULNERABLE. SO WE'RE, WE'RE TECHNICALLY NOT COMMITTED TO A SINGLE MANUFACTURER. WE'RE STILL IN THE, UM, WE, WE DO THE BANNING ONE IS PROBABLY A FRONT RUNNER. UH, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA GO DEEPER, DIVE ON OPTIONS AND, YOU KNOW, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE BEST, UH, SERVICE DELIVERY LOCALLY. THE MODULES ARE DESIGNED ALREADY AND THEY'RE APPROVED ALREADY. SO STATE YEAH. BY THE STATE. SO, UH, IF WE WANT SOMETHING CUSTOM, WHICH WE CAN DO, THAT ADDS TIME. 'CAUSE THEN THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE APPROVAL PROCESS FOR THAT DESIGN. SO WE'RE LIKE GOING TO A, A PARTS STORE. WE'RE STICKING WITH A MODULE DESIGN THAT ALREADY CALIFORNIA CATALOG. OKAY. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NICK, YOU KNOW, DOWN THE ROAD, JOSH, NOT MONTHS DOWN THE, THE ROAD I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO FOLLOW UP ON, ON THE PROGRESS AND WHERE YOU ARE AND WHAT'S BEING DONE. OH, ABSOLUTELY. PART OF THAT IS I'M ON THE BOARD OF THE AMERICAN GOLD STAR MANNER. OH, YOU ARE? YEAH. MET PEOPLE AT WEEKEND EVENT AND, AND, UM, WE STILL HAVE, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE BUILDING TRADITIONAL ON THE FIVE ACRES IN FRONT, WE HAVE ANOTHER COUPLE ACRES IN FACT THAT WE WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH SOMETHING. THIS MAY BE THE KIND OF THING THAT HERE, YEAH, I DID MEET YOUR PEOPLE AT THE BOOTH AND THEY, THEY SAID THAT THEY WANT TO SET UP A, A VISIT FOR US TO, WE'D LOVE LEARNED FROM YOU. THERE'S A SECTION, WHAT I GAVE YOU ON BUILD MODULE VERSUS BUILD STICK. YEAH. EUROPE'S WAY AHEAD OF US ON, UH, NO, NO. I KNOW WE ARE, BUT, BUT THIS COULD BE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING FOR US IN, IN THE BACK, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A COUPLE ACRES THERE THAT WE WOULD, WE, WE, WE WANT TO FOLLOW ALONG WITH SOMETHING BACK THERE, BUT WE'RE JUST DOING THE FRONT FOOT IN BACK. SO I'D REALLY LIKE TO JUST BE ABLE TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU GUYS. AND DO YOU KNOW THE COMPOUND OF THE VA UH, CENTER IN LA THEY HAVE HUGE BUILDING ALL MOD BUILT, OR YOU DRIVE BY, YOU CAN'T TELL. YOU CAN, YEAH. OKAY. ANY OTHER, UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT. ANY OTHER, UM, QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. AT THIS POINT I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. UH, JUST REALLY QUICK, UM, HAS THE, UH, LIKE, I GUESS THE ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE, UH, PROCESS? LIKE STARTED OR? NO, AS IT STARTED, OH, NOT NEXT, BUT PROBABLY ABOUT, I'D SAY 60 DAYS WE'RE OUT FOR THAT. OH, OKAY. UM, AND THEN, UH, JUST LIKE CURIOUS, LIKE, UM, SO IT SAYS HERE, LIKE THE LENGTHY APPROVAL PROCESSES BEING ADDRESSED BY THE CITY OF LONG BEACH WITH COMBINATIONS OF EXEM EXEMPTIONS AND EXPEDITED PROCESS. LIKE HOW DO YOU GUYS KNOW THAT'S IT'S GONNA BE APPLYING FOR THIS PROJECT? OH, WE'VE BEEN HAVING DISCUSSION WITH IT UNTIL WE LOST OUR DIRT. OH. AND WE HAD WHOLE THING IN THE BACK BURNER. NOW THAT WE HAVE OUR DIRT, WE'RE OPENING IT BACK UP AGAIN, SAY 2.0 ON THE FIRST PROJECT. OH, OKAY. AND THEN, UH, LAST THING I HAD, UH, THE FUNDING SOURCE, IS IT COMING FROM LIKE FEDERAL, STATE? NO, PRIVATE. UM, OKAY. WELL, WE'RE GONNA SNIP AROUND FOR AS MUCH PUZZLE AS WE CAN GET, BUT WE'RE OUR, OUR, UH, OUR DEPENDENT OR WHAT WE'RE RELYING ON IS PRIVATE. OKAY. UM, YEAH. 'CAUSE THAT, THAT WAS GONNA LEAD MY NEXT QUESTION, WHICH IS THE LAST ONE. UM, LIKE WITH THESE, UH, PRE PREFABRICATED [00:50:01] HOMES OR MODULARS, LIKE, ARE THEY, LIKE, LET FREE AND ASBESTOS, LIKE COMPLIANT, LIKE STUFF LIKE THAT? 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MATERIAL MATERIALS IS. BASE AND STEEL. YEAH. IT'S ALL, OKAY. WELL AND THAT INCLUDES, THAT'S PART OF THE, THE, THE FORMAT IS WHY THE STATE IS APPROACHED IS BECAUSE OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL OF THAT WE NEED TO PASS. OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE ON THE PROOF LIST. RIGHT. RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE. OKAY. UM, UM, OKAY. UM, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THAT. YEAH. UM, CAN WE GET, CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE, UM, THE PRESENTATION, UM, FROM KEN AND STEVE HACKLEMAN, THE VASH VETERAN HOUSING PROJECT IN CAMBODIA TOWN? 1400 EACH CHERRY PROJECT. CAN I GET A MOTION? IT'S MOTION TO FILE. MOTION? YES. MOTION TO FILE. OKAY. YOU DIDN'T SAY THAT. OKAY. MOTION TO FILE. MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE CAN AND NICK GOT IT. OKAY. UM, CAN, AND NICK, CAN NICK, UM, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY NAYS OF ABSTENTIONS? OKAY. IS PASSED BY ALL. OKAY. SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE'RE GONNA, UM, MOVE DOWN TO SOME OF OUR, WE'RE GONNA GO TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS GONNA BE, WE'RE GONNA GO TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS, UM, 24 5 5, 5 8. BANNER. GUYS, APPRECIATE FRONT. WE APPRECIATE IT. GONNA DO THAT. NICE MEETING. YOU ALL. LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOUR, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I, I THANK YOU FOR COMING HERE BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD SOMEONE ACTUALLY IN THE HOME BUILDING INDUSTRY THAT COME TO OUR MEETING. AND I ALSO WANT TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT AND HAVE CHRISTINA WHITE INTRODUCE HERSELF TO US TODAY IF YOU COULD, BECAUSE THIS IS A GOOD CONNECTION AS WELL. HI, I'M CHRISTINA WHITE. I'M THE ACTING MEDICAL CENTER DIRECTOR AT THE VA LONG BEACH HEALTHCARE SYSTEM. SO THOUGHT I'D STOP BY AND SAY HELLO. UM, I WON'T BE ABLE TO COME TO ALL OF YOUR MEETINGS, BUT I'LL TRY AND COME TO AS MANY AS I CAN. COOL. AND SO I THOUGHT I CAN BY AND, UM, MEET EVERYONE, INTRODUCE MYSELF AND SAY HELLO. I MET HER AT THE VETERAN STAND DOWN AND I'M, I'M, I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT YOU'RE HERE. THAT'S WONDERFUL. THANK YOU FOR EXTENDING INVITATION. YES, ABSOLUTELY. I WILL BE SPEAKING. WE SUICIDE PREVENTION GRANTEE. THANK YOU. YEAH, IT'S VERY, IT'S VERY EXCITING. YOU KNOW, THE ACTING DIRECTOR OF THE VA IS HERE, SO WE MUST BE HOT STUFF. . YES, YOU ARE. NICE. YOU TOO. THANK YOU EVERYBODY. NO, NO, IT'S FINE. IT DOESN'T MATTER. IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO IT, IT'S FINE AS WELL. OKAY. IT DID. DID YOU, YOU HAVE YOUR, DID YOU SHARE OR NO? DID YOU SHARE ALREADY? YOU GOOD? OKAY. WELL I, I'M, I'M SUPER EXCITED. DID YOU GET A CHANCE TO COME TO THE VETERAN'S DAY ON SATURDAY? I'M, I'M, UH, MONDAY. YES. THE ONE THAT WAS THE RR NO, I DO NOT. I HAVE, I HAVE A DOG. I GET IT. EMERGENCY VET. SO WHICH ONE ARE WE GONNA, GINA, I THINK IF, IF WE COULD GO BACK IN ORDER. UM, SHE WAS PROPOSING THAT WE DO THE VETERANS BANNER PROGRAM NEXT. OKAY. UM, IS THAT ACCEPTABLE TO YOU ALL? SURE. OKAY. PLEASE APPROVE THAT FOR THE ORDER. CAN WE, CAN WE, UH, ACTUALLY, CAN WE MOTION TO PUT OFF THE, UH, HOW THE, UH, SUBJECT NEXT MONTH ALREADY? ALREADY? I ALREADY, YES, I ALREADY, I ALREADY. OKAY. UM, WE'LL, YEAH, WE'LL DO IT WHEN WE GET TO THAT ONE. OKAY. OKAY. SO WHAT, OKAY, SO WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO OUR REGULAR ORDER. SORRY ABOUT THAT GUYS. SO, UM, WHAT WE SAID, OKAY, SO WE'RE GONNA GO NOW TO 5 2 4 5, 5, 5, 8, 9 RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS THE VETERANS BANNER PROGRAM. AND UM, KEN, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO YOU, UM, CHAIR. SURE. UM, WE DID HAVE A CALL. UM, YOU WERE ON A, I WAS ON A, UM, ANTOINETTE. ANTOINETTE WAS ON IT. WERE YOU? I WAS NOT. I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T TELL YOU. UM, AND IT WAS JUST A BASIC, WE WERE JUST TALKING, SCHEDULING THE QUESTION WHAT MONTHS FOR WHAT. SO WHAT IT IS, I TOOK, I DID, COULDN'T FIND MY ORIGINAL NOTES. I KIND OF SAT DOWN TODAY AND MADE SOME NOTES OF WHAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE A SCHEDULE OF EVENTS OF HOW WE, AND THIS IS DRAFT, SO IT'S GONNA BE OPEN TO CHANGE, BUT I WANTED YOU GUYS TO SEE WHAT MY THOUGHTS ARE ON HOW THIS IS GONNA PROCEED. AND THE IDEA IS THAT WE WANT TO HAVE THREE MONTHS OF NOMINATIONS. JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH, AND THEN APRIL IS THE CHOICE MONTH. WE MAKE OUR DECISION CHOICE GETS MADE. MAY IS PRODUCTION, THE COMPANY'S [00:55:01] BUILDING THEM, PRINTS THEM, PUTS THEM UP. SO AT THE END OF MAY, WE HAVE SOME KIND OF EVENT WHERE WE ARE AT ONE OF THE SITES FOR THE BANNERS TO PRINCETON THEM, ANNOUNCE THEM, SAY, HEY CITY, LOOK AT THE GREAT BANNERS WE PUT UP, WHATEVER WE WANNA CALL IT, SOME KIND OF EVENT THAT WE COORDINATE IN ADVANCE AND WE HAVE MARKETING FOR AND THE SUCH. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE, AND AT THE FRONT END IT'S GONNA BE LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL SITES. 'CAUSE WE HAVE ADDITIONAL MONEY THIS YEAR. SO WE WANT TO HAVE ADDITIONAL SITES. AND THERE WAS A GREAT POINT FOR MAN IS TO GET ONE ON EITHER THE, EITHER DISTRICTS, EITHER DISTRICT NINE OR DISTRICT 11 AND 11. PUT IT IN THE NORTH OR IS IT SEVEN OR IS IT NO, WEST SIDE. 11, SEVEN. MM-HMM . SEVEN. MM-HMM . WEST SIDE. CD SEVEN. AND WHAT ELSE? NINE. NINE OR SEVEN. OKAY. SO SOMETHING UP NORTH. AND I THOUGHT OF A GOOD ONE. I WAS LOOKING AT THE MAPQUEST TODAY AND I PUT IT ON THERE IS A COUPLE OF MY IDEAS WERE, UM, LAKEWOOD BOULEVARD, SOUTH OF CON IN FRONT OF THE AIRPORT. I ACTUALLY TALKED TO THE LADY WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THIS. SEE YA. DID YOU GET ONE OF THESE? WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THE, UM, VAN? THAT'S CLOSE TO WHERE THE ONES ARE NOW, RIGHT? THEY'RE . IT'S, BUT IT'S THE, THE REASON I THOUGHT ABOUT IT'S BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S A PROMINENT PLACE FOR THE WORLD COMING INTO LONG BEACH. IT'S VERY PROMINENT. IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A, IT MUST BE THERE. THESE ARE JUST KEN'S IDEAS. SO I'M JUST THROWING 'EM OUT THERE. YEAH. UM, ONE WAS BELLFLOWER BOULEVARD, NORTH OF SEVENTH, RIGHT NEXT TO THE VA. 'CAUSE THEY USUALLY USE, 'CAUSE THE SEVENTH STREET IS A PROBLEM THERE BECAUSE IT'S THE HIGHWAY. IT'S A STATE HIGHWAY. SO IT TAKES LONGER. THAT BECOMES THE 22. AT SOME POINT IT BECOMES SEVENTH STREET. BUT IT'S MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO GET THOSE BECAUSE IT IS A STATE HIGHWAY YOU EVER WORK WITH CALTRANS? DON'T CALTRANS IS ANOTHER SPELLING OF HELL. UM, DON'T WANT DO IT. AND FOR THE NORTH, I THOUGHT OF WHEN I WAS LOOKING ON THE LINE IS THE ARTESIA BRIDGE, THE BRIDGE COMING. OH, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. THE ARTIA BRIDGE COMING INTO LONG BEACH, NOBODY USES THOSE. OH, THEY POLES. THEY HAVE PILLOWS. THERE'S LIGHT POLES THERE, THERE'S LIGHT POSTS ALL ALONG THAT BRIDGE. IT'S THE ENTRY TO OUR CITY FROM COMPTON. IT IS PROMINENT. IT'S RIGHT THERE ABOVE THE FREEWAY AND IT'S GOT A TON OF POLES. SO WHAT I WAS THINKING IS WE WANT TO KEEP THE ORIGINAL SITE PROBABLY THAT'S GONNA GO, THAT'S A GOOD SITE. AND THEN WE'RE GONNA TAKE AND FIND OUT ONCE WE DO THE BUDGET, 'CAUSE THE BUDGET'S THE KEY. IT'S GONNA TELL US HOW MANY THINGS, HOW MANY POLES WE GET. 'CAUSE WE HAVE TO BUDGET ONE FOR HOW MANY FOR REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE FOR A YEAR. SO IF ONE GETS KNOCKED DOWN BY SOMEONE HITTING THE POLE, WE HAVE TO PUT IT BACK UP ONCE THE POLE GOES BACK UP. OR, AND ALSO, UM, WHAT WAS I THINKING? UM, MARKETING. WE'RE GONNA NEED A LITTLE MONEY FOR MARKETING SO WE CAN GET PEOPLE TO SIGN UP TO IN MORE TIME FOR THEM TO SIGN UP. AND WHAT I WANT TO DO ALSO IS TO LOOK IN THE SCHEDULE. WHEN YOU TAKE IT HOME TO READ IT, IT'S GONNA LENGTHY IS AS WE GET THE APPLICATIONS, WE'RE LOOKING AT THEM. WE DON'T HOLD 'EM UNTIL THE END. AS WE GET 'EM IN, WE REVIEW THEM, MAKE SURE THEY'RE COMPLETE, MAKE SURE THE PICTURE IS GOOD. WE FIX THE PROBLEMS ALONG THE WAY. SO IF THERE'S ONE IN, WE LOOK AT IT, WE MAKE SURE THE PICTURE IS GOOD. IF IT'S NOT, WE CONTACT THEM THEN AND WE FIX 'EM ALONG THE WAY. 'CAUSE THEN AT THE END, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO FIX 20 PEOPLE. SO AT THE END, WE'RE GONNA COME TO MARCH AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAND THEM, WE'RE GONNA SAY, OKAY, HERE THEY ARE. THEN WE'RE GONNA LET THE CITY VET THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO VET THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, MURDERERS, CHILD MOLESTERS, , WHATEVER. IT HAPPENS. THEY'RE GONNA VET OUR, THEY'RE GONNA VET OUR LISTS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT PUTTING SOMEBODY UP THERE. WE SHOULDN'T. AND THEN THAT'S GONNA COME BACK TO US. AND THEN WE'LL MAKE A DECISION AS A GROUP BLIND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A BLIND TASTE AS KIND OF THING AS TO WHO WE CHOOSE TO FILL THOSE SLOTS. THEN WE NOTIFY THE PEOPLE, LET THEM KNOW. SO EVERYBODY, AND THEN LET THE OTHER ONES KNOW THAT WE'LL KEEP THEIR APPLICATIONS FOR NEXT YEAR SO THEY CAN POSSIBLY BE THE PERSON FOR NEXT YEAR. UM, ONE INTERESTING ONE I HAD THOUGHT OF. WHAT, WHAT'S THE NUMBER AGAIN, I KEEP FORGETTING. WE DON'T, WE, WE HAVE TO DETERMINE THAT THE NUMBER OUT OF THE BUDGET. WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIND OUT FIRST. AND I NEED THAT INFORMATION, THOSE RECEIPTS. DO WE HAVE ANY ASK FOR THEM. DO WE HAVE AN ISH? WELL, BA BA BASICALLY THAT WAS WHAT WE, WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS HAVE A MEETING. SO WHEN YOU'RE DONE, UH, PRESENTING THIS WE'LL, WE'LL SET UP A MEETING BECAUSE WE, WE NEED TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT YOUR ROLE IS, WHAT THE CITY'S ROLE IS. MEANING WE INTERFACE WITH THE BANNER COMPANY. AND IF I GET PRICES FROM THEM NOW, IT STILL DOESN'T REFLECT THAT WE EITHER HAVE TO HAVE, WE'RE HIRING AN INTERN, WE'RE TRYING TO GET A FREE [01:00:01] INTERN BECAUSE I CANNOT DO MEMORIAL DAY AND ALL OF THIS AT THE SAME TIME. IT'S, IT'S, WELL, THE THE POINT, IT'S NOT EVEN THAT WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE COST. WE KNOW, WE KNOW, THEY KNOW, WE KNOW THEY COST ABOUT, UM, $300 PRINT. THAT WAS, THAT WAS LAST YEAR. RIGHT. SO WE NEED A CURRENT PRICE ON EVERYTHING. SO WHEN WE GO INTO THIS, WE CAN GO, OKAY, NOW WE'RE GONNA BUILD A BUDGET AND THEN WE CAN BUDGET FOR ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS. SO WE CAN DECIDE WHAT WE NEED FOR THIS BUDGET. WHAT DOES THIS BUDGET LOOK LIKE? THEN WE CAN, THAT'LL TELL US HOW MANY BANNERS WE GET. THAT'LL TELL US HOW MANY LOCATIONS WE'RE GOING TO DO. 'CAUSE WE COULD DO TWO LOCATIONS, WE COULD DO THREE. WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT 20 MANNERS IN ONE LOCATION. WE COULD DIVIDE IT BY THREE AND SAY, OKAY, HERE'S 15 HERE, 15 HERE, 15 THERE. THAT'S A GOOD REPRESENTATION. WHAT, WHAT'S DETERMINING, UH, AREA OF TOWN YOU JUST MENTIONED? WHY THERE? I HAD A SUGGESTION. IT'S NOT EVEN, IT'S, THEN I WOULD'VE TO MAKE A SUGGESTION. ATLANTIC. YEAH, IF WE CAN FIND THE, IF WE CAN FIND, WELL, IF YOU DRIVE ME DOWN ON ONE SECOND ORDER, THERE'S JUST, THERE'S DOZENS OF LIGHT BULBS THAT THEY DON'T GET. YOU KNOW, I, LIGHT BULBS SHOULD GO BY OUR PINE, BUT OF COURSE THE CITY WOULDN'T LET US DO THAT. BUT JUST, JUST ONE SECOND. GO AHEAD. WE, YEAH, EVERYTHING IS OPEN. THERE'S NOTHING HAS BEEN DECIDED ALL THESE THINGS ARE JUST, THESE ARE SOME PEOPLE MADE SUGGESTIONS. I PUT 'EM ON THERE AS POSSIBILITIES. NOTHING HAS BEEN DECIDED. WE WILL, AS A GROUP DECIDE WHAT THOSE ARE, AND THEN WE'LL SAY, OKAY, THEN WE TAKE THIS AND WE TAKE IT TO THE CITY. 'CAUSE THE HARDEST PART OF THIS LITTLE GAME IS FINDING SOME SPACE ON THAT GROUP OF POLES THAT ISN'T SPOKEN FOR FOR THE NEXT 12 MONTHS. YES. THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE DIFFICULT ONE. YEAH. THAT'S THE PROBLEM WE DOWNTOWN USED FOR. THERE IS NO SYSTEM. AND I TALKED TO HER MYSELF. WE HAD A LONG CONVERSATION. THERE'S TWO, THERE'S TWO DEPARTMENTS THAT DON'T TALK TO EACH OTHER AND DON'T INTERFACE WITH EACH OTHER. ONE IS THE LIGHT POLES AND ONE IS THE PEOPLE WITH THE BANNERS. THEY DON'T TALK, THEIR SYSTEMS DON'T INTERFACE. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SPECIAL EVENTS AND PUBLIC WORKS? YES. OH MY GOODNESS. THEIR TWO SYSTEMS DON'T TALK. OKAY. SO THEY HAVE TO ACTUALLY ASK CHECK ON EACH ONE. YOU CAN'T GET A LIST OF WHICH ONES ARE FREE AND WHICH ONES ARE NOT. THAT WOULD BE LOGICAL. SO THAT AIN'T HAPPENING. I'M, I'M LAUGHING BECAUSE I KNOW I I THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNY TOO. BUT, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF SEVERAL LOCATIONS AND KIND OF GO, HERE'S OUR NUMBER ONE CHOICE, TWO CHOICE, THREE CHOICE. AND THEY'RE GONNA KNOCK 'EM OFF UNTIL WE GET TO OUR HOW MANY CHOICES WE WANT. RIGHT. SO IF I, UM, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. UM, SO GOING BACK TO THE BRIDGE. YEAH. UM, CAN WE EXPLORE, UM, IF WE CAN PUT IT ON THE BRIDGE, CAN WE EXPLORE DOING DOUBLE BANNERS? BECAUSE REMEMBER WE SAID BEFORE WITH WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE THE, THE, THE PROBLEM WITH SOME OF 'EM HAVING TREES RIGHT THERE. RIGHT. SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE TREES ONLY ALLOWS US TO REALLY HAVE ONE. SO I'M THINKING IF WE DO THE BRIDGE, THEN WE CAN DO DOUBLE BANNERS. POSSIBLY. WOULD YOU DO THE SAME PERSON OR A TWO PEOPLE? NO, JUST TWO SEPARATE ONES. YEAH. SIDE, YOU KNOW, LIKE A, LIKE A DUAL, LIKE A, EACH SIDE OF THE POLE BACK TO BACK OR NO, SIDE BY SIDE? NO, YOU HAVE THE POLE ONE ON THE SIDE. HERE'S THE POLE. YEAH. OH, BOTH SIDES OF THE POLE. YES, YES. YES. BOTH SIDES OF THE POLE. THAT WOULD BE TWO BANNERS. YES. ON EACH POLE. AND THAT WOULD BE A TWO. THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT FRAME TOO. IT COST MORE. SO YOU NEED TWO, YOU NEED HAVE TWO OF OUR I KNOW, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IF IT'S IN A PLACE THAT'S LIKE A CLEARING, LIKE THAT. YEAH, BECAUSE OUR, BECAUSE OUR, OUR POLL SPACE IN THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS, WHAT KEN WAS SAYING IS LIKE, WE'RE VERY LIMITED BECAUSE IN SOME OF THOSE PLACES, ESPECIALLY LIKE WITH ZACHARIA, UM, JORDAN, FOR EXAMPLE, THOSE BANNERS, THEY ARE CONSTANTLY UTILIZING. SO THE SPACE IS VERY, IS VERY LIMITED. SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD EXPLORE. YEAH, NO, WE CAN TALK ABOUT, AND AND JEAN FOR YOUR, WHEN WE GET THE QUOTE, LET'S ASK THEM ABOUT DOUBLE BANNERS. YEAH. BECAUSE COST OF INSTALLATION IS NORMALLY BASED ON GOING TO THE SITE. LIKE ME CLIMBING THE POLE IS THE COST. SO IF I'M CLIMBING THE POLE AND I PUT TWO OF THEM UP, YEAH. IT SHOULD COST LESS THAN ME PUTTING UP TWO SEPARATE ONES. THAT'S RIGHT. SHOULD I USED THAT BIG WORD? SHOULD. OKAY. UM, SO LET'S, LET'S WAIT. WAIT, HOLD ON A SECOND. JIM HAS A QUE JIM HAS A QUESTION. SORRY. DO WE KNOW THAT IT'S A LOCAL BRIDGE? WHAT DO WE KNOW? WHAT'S A LOCAL BRIDGE? YEAH, IT'S THE CITY OF LONG BEACH. I TELL THE OTHER SIDE. OKAY. I WAS MAKING SURE I TELL THE OTHER SIDE. I DIDN'T. WHAT? NO, I MEANT WHEN DOES, IS IT A CALTRANS BRIDGE? YEAH. BASED ON WHAT'S UNDER IT IN CONSTRUCTION. IT MIGHT BE A CAL. WE'LL FIND OUT. IT'S JUST THAT, AGAIN, THESE ARE KEN'S MUSINGS. GO AHEAD. BUT BY, BY HAVING THE BANNERS ON THE EDGE OF THE CITY, I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD SEE THEM. I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY WHERE I LIVE. THAT GOES UP TO ARTESIA. OKAY. YEAH. AND SO, NO, THAT'S, I I, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER TO HAVE IT WHERE SINCE WE'RE, [01:05:01] SINCE WE'RE SHOWING LONG BEACH VETERANS UHHUH, I WOULD LIKE A LONG BEACH RESIDENCE TO SEE THE BANNERS. AND IF YOU SAY IT'S ON THE EDGE OF COMPTON, DO I CARE IF COMPTON SEES THE OWNER BANNERS? NOT TOO MUCH GONNA BE IN THE CITY DISTRICT HERE. IT'S, WE'RE NOT AT THAT. I GET YOUR POINT. AND I HEAR IT. WE'RE NOT AT THAT CONVERSATION YET. OKAY. WE'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION LATER. THESE WERE JUST KEN'S IDEAS AND THEY MEAN NOTHING. YEAH. OKAY. THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE MUSICS . YES. SO WE'LL GET TO THAT IN ANOTHER ONE OF THE MEETINGS. WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT OF MAKING THE DECISION OF WHERE THE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU READ IN THERE, THERE'S ACTUALLY A POINT THAT SAYS, MAKE THE DECISION OF THE LOCATION OF THE BANNERS. SO THAT'S WHEN WE'LL DO IT. SO I THINK THAT'S ALL WE SHOULD GET ON THIS TONIGHT. WE'LL GET INTO IT MORE DEEPLY IN THE ACTUAL MEETINGS, BUT I WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE YOU GUYS A FEELING OF WHERE WE'RE GOING AND HOW WE'RE GONNA GET THERE. 'CAUSE OUR GOAL REALLY IS WE WANT IT TO HAPPEN AGAIN BY THE END OF MAY. THAT'S OUR GOAL. BECAUSE THEN IT TIES IN WITH MEMORIAL DAY. IT TIES IN WITH THAT WHOLE THING BECOMES ONE PIECE OF AN EVENT. SO WE CAN SAY, OKAY, LOOK AT THE MEMORIAL DAY EVENT. HERE'S OUR GREAT BANNERS. GREAT. IT'S NOT AN, IT'S NOT ON ITS OWN. YES. WE COULD, IF IT, IF ALL ELSE FAILS, EVERYTHING GOES TO HELL. YES. WE'VE GOTTEN TILL THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, BUT THAT'S NOT OUR PLAN. ALL I WANTED TO ADD IS, YOU SAID ANTOINETTE, RIGHT? WA, JUANITA, KEN AND SMITTY, RIGHT? YEAH. WHERE, AND THEN JIM, YOU WANTED TO BE PART OF IT, RIGHT? YES. SO WITH JIM ADDED, THAT'S JIM, KEN, JUANITA, AND ANTOINETTE. THAT'S STILL UNDER QUORUM. YEAH. UM, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU GUYS ALL TO BUST YOUR CALENDARS OUT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE, THE MEETING WITH ME AND CHRISTINA TO TALK ABOUT ALL OF THESE THINGS. LIKE, WHAT'S YOUR ROLE? WHAT'S OUR ROLE? WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM US? WHAT DO WE WANT FROM YOU? UM, I WANNA SET THAT DATE RIGHT NOW. SO THE FIRST SLOT THAT I HAVE AVAILABLE IS TOMORROW THE 14TH OF, OF OF NOVEMBER AT TWO 30 OR THREE 30. DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU ALL TO MEET? NOT FOR ME. DOESN'T WORK FOR YOU? OKAY. THE NEXT WOULD BE MONDAY AT ONE, TWO, OR THREE MONDAY. AND, AND IT CAN BE ONLINE. IT CAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S PROBABLY EASIER THAN IN PERSON TOMORROW. SO MONDAY, TUESDAY, OR WEDNESDAY OF NEXT WEEK. WE HAVE MONDAY THE 18TH AT MONDAY. I CAN DO MONDAY AT THREE. OKAY. WHAT ABOUT YOU, JUANITA? YOU SAID MONDAY. MONDAY AT THREE. JIM, HOW ABOUT YOU? MONDAY AT THREE? YEAH. I WOULD PREFER IT EARLIER ON MONDAY, BUT I COULD DO, I COULD DO THREE. WE'RE GONNA DO ONLINE. YOU SAID ONLINE? WE'RE DOING ONLINE. YEAH. I COULD DO THREE ONLINE AND THEN I CAN SHOW YOU THE APPLICATION. YEAH. I'VE GOT ANOTHER PLACE TO BE LATER, BUT I CAN DO IT ONLINE. YES. OKAY. SO WE'LL DO A ZOOM MEETING. YOU'LL SET, WE'LL DO A, WE'LL DO A TEAMS MEETING ON MONDAY AT THREE. CHRISTINA AND I WILL BE THERE. I WILL INVITE, UH, JUANITA AND I MEAN ANTOINETTE AND SMITTY. AND WE'LL JUST, WE'LL JUST REVIEW THE WHOLE THING. I WANNA SAY THIS IS A GREAT START. THIS IS AWESOME. IT'S JUST TO BE BEGIN. THIS IS, I, I KNOW THIS IS A DRAFT OUTLINE. THAT'S ALL IT IS. BUT THE FACT THAT YOU TOOK THE TIME TO GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH A TIMELINE IS, IS REALLY GREAT. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP AS CHAIR. THE LAST SMIT, THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD WITH SMITTY GAVE US SOME GOOD INSIGHT ON HOW THIS, HOW THE TIMELINE PLAYS OUT. AND WE DID REVIEW EVERY APPLICATION AS WE CAME IN AND TOLD THEM THAT IT WASN'T WORKING. BUT THIS YEAR, BUT THIS YEAR WE ALSO SCHEDULED A PHOTO SESSION WITH THE MAYOR'S PHOTOGRAPHER. WE GOT, WE, YEAH. NO, YEAH. NO, I'M NOT, I'M NOT DEFENDING THAT. I'M JUST SAYING WE COULD, WE COULD SET UP MULTIPLE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THINGS WE CAN DO TO EXPAND IT, LIKE MULTIPLE SESSIONS WITH THE MAYOR'S PHOTOGRAPHER. WE CAN DO PUBLIC EDUCATION SESSIONS OR WE ACTUALLY GO TO THE VA, MAYBE DROP SOME CARDS OR BE PART OF ONE OF YOUR TOWN HALLS. LIKE TO REALLY SPREAD THE WORD AND GET THIS REALLY NICE, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH OF WAS DIVERSITY IN OUR BANNERS. AND, AND AS THE VA, YOU'VE GOT YOUR OWN PHOTOGRAPHERS. I KNOW THAT. SO YOU MAY BE ABLE TO TIE IN WITH YOU AND SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A VA DAY. I LOVE IT. SO ANYBODY AT THE VA WHO'S, WHO'S APPLYING FOR THIS, HERE'S YOUR DAY OR TWO. WE'LL HAVE OUR, YOU'LL HAVE YOUR PHOTOGRAPHER AT X LOCATION. YEAH. IN THE AG OR SOMEWHERE NEARBY AND SAY, THAT'S GREAT. YOU'LL, YOU GUYS CAN DO IT. AND THEN JUST SHIP US THE PICTURES AND THEN, WOW. THAT'D BE FANTASTIC. BECAUSE THEN IT'S A PARTNERSHIP BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THE, YOU'VE GOT THE LARGEST POPULATION, OF COURSE, OF LONG BEACH VETERANS. SO WE WORK IN TANDEM WITH THAT. AND THAT HELPS TAKE ON A BIG PIECE OF THAT. AND WE'LL TAKE ON THE ONES WHO AREN'T PART OF THAT COMMUNITY AS GETTING THEIR PHOTOGRAPHS IN, IN THE OTHER PIECES. THAT'D BE WONDERFUL. WE COULD GET REAL CREATIVE SIDE. JUST ONE QUESTION AND UM, AND ONE COMMENT ABOUT THE PHOTOS BEFORE I GO TO YOU. JIM UHHUH. THAT WAS IT. THAT WAS IT. OKAY. UM, I'M SORRY. UH, IS THERE, IS THERE A WAY, UM, BECAUSE I, [01:10:02] AND IS, IS THERE, AND BECAUSE I KNOW I FOUND IT ON THE SITE, BUT IS THERE, UM, A SITE THAT YOU CAN ASSIST US WITH WHERE, LET'S JUST SAY IF A VETERAN WANTED TO GO AND GET THEIR, THEIR, LIKE THEIR DA PHOTO, BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE I, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WANT TO HAVE IT, THEIR UNIFORM DA PHOTO VERSUS LIKE A CIVILIAN PHOTO D ARE YOU AWARE OF THAT AT ALL? UM, NO. OKAY. NOT LIKE FOR THEIR OWN PERSONAL USE. FOR THEM TO GO, FOR THEM TO GO AND REQUEST IT. DO YOU KNOW, FOR THEIR OWN PERSONAL USE. IT'S NOT ONLY THREE. IT'S NOT EVEN THE INDIVIDUAL BRANCH OF SERVICE. IT'S INDIVIDUAL YEAH. PLACE. YOU WENT TO BASIC TRAINING. OH, SO YOU HAVE TO GO THERE BACK TO THE VA. THE REC, NO, THE VA WOULDN'T HAVE 'EM. THERE'S NO NEED, UH, TO HAVE IT. LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, IF I WANTED TO COPY MY BOOTCAMP PHOTO, I'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH PARA ISLAND. MCI WOULDN'T EVEN CONTACT. BUT YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO YOUR BASE. YOU HAVE TO CONTACT YOURS. OKAY. SO THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK IF WE LIKE, MAYBE JUST AS A LITTLE NOTE, WE'LL PUT THAT OUT THERE. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. INFORM INFORMATION AS FAR BACK AS THEY GO. THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE. THEY NEVER KEPT 'EM. THERE WAS NO NEED. DANG IT. REALLY? I THINK MINE'S DIGITAL AND THAT WAS 2006. YEAH. IF YOU GO FURTHER, YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE IT YOURSELF. WE CAN'T GET DD TWO FOURTEENS WITHOUT GOING TO THE NATIONAL ARCHIVE. THEY'RE NOT KEEPING LOGOS. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE MARINE CORPS MUSEUMS OR THE ARMY MUSEUMS. SOME OF THEM HAVE ARCHIVES IN SOME OF THEIR ARCHIVES BASE. I THINK THEY, OKAY, SO YOU SAID GO WHERE THE, YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE INDIVIDUAL BASE. I MEAN, THAT'S THE THING. IF, IF WE STILL HAVE TO REACH OUT TO NATIONAL ARCHIVES. 'CAUSE NOT EVERY VETERAN, THE E TWO 14 IS DIGITALIZED. THEY'RE NOT KEEPING PHOTOS. IT'S WINGING A PRAYER TO HOPE THAT THEY EVEN HAVE YOUR DD TWO 14. HUH. OKAY. WELL THAT'S WAS SAY. YEAH. I WILL KIND OF, I MEAN WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AT THE MEETING WITH THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY IF WE LIKE, IF PEOPLE WOULD PREFER TO HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, TOO, WE CAN, WE CAN GIVE THEM SOME IDEAS. YES, EXACTLY. WE'RE NOT TAKING IT ON. NO, NO. I'M JUST SAYING IT JUST AS A THING TO HAVE. OKAY. IS THERE, UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, YEAH, GO AHEAD NICK. UM, WHEN, WHEN YOU HOLD YOUR COMMITTEE MEETING OUT OF THAT, WHAT I SUGGEST IS IF YOU'RE AT LEAST LOOKING AT, AT DIFFERENT STREETS, DIFFERENT PLACES YEAH. SEND IT OUT TO THE ENTIRE COMMISSIONERS THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE EVERYBODY LOOKING FOR STREETS TO USE. AND IF, IF YOU SUGGEST A STREET, LIKE, LIKE SANTA FE MIGHT BE A REAL GOOD STREET 'CAUSE OF THE FULL STAR MANOR AND, AND THE CABA AND ALL THAT. YEAH. THERE. UM, AND OUR FIRST ALL MEETING, WE ACTUALLY ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO HAVE IT GO OUT TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS, YOU KNOW, SUGGEST STREETS AND TAKE A PICTURE BECAUSE YOU NEED TO GO BACK TO THE CITY. YEAH. GIVE US AN IDEA. FIND OUT IF THEY'RE RESERVED FOR 10 YEARS OR, AND THE IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, OUR TREES. TRY TO FIND A, YEAH, TRY TO FIND A STRAIGHT FOR ONE. IT'S VACANT. PUT TOGETHER SHOWS. WE WANT EVERYBODY TO BE LOOKING FOR STREETS. BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR SUGGESTIONS. WE NEED HELP FIND SOMETHING. 'CAUSE YOU DRIVE THEM. I MAY NOT DRIVE ON YOUR SIDE OF TOWN. YOU MAY DRIVE ON MY SIDE OF TOWN. I'LL GUARANTEE YOU. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE AREAS I'D LIKE TO AND ALSO IN, AND I THINK BETTER TOO. I MEAN, YES, IT'S GREAT FOR THE COMMISSIONERS TO DO IT, BUT I THINK TOO IS UTILIZING, UM, THE CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE AND THEIR STAFF BECAUSE LIKE, THEY KNOW AND THEY COULD EASILY GET THAT INFORMATION FROM PUBLIC WORKS BECAUSE LIKE THEY WOULD KNOW, RIGHT? LIKE, WHICH ONES ARE AVAILABLE? YOU, YOU DON'T THINK SO? WELL, THEY WON'T KNOW TILL WE ASK THEM. WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, WHAT I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO IS LITERALLY PUT OUR LIST, OUR, OUR PRIORITY LIST, ONE TO 20 AND WE'RE GONNA HAND IT IN AND ASK HER TO GO FROM TOP TO BOTTOM AND SAY YES OR NO. AND SHE'LL GO, NO, NO, NO, NO. YES. MAYBE . AND THAT'S HOW IT'S, 'CAUSE I LITERALLY SAT ON, I WAS ON THE PHONE REALLY NICE WITH HER FOR LIKE 20, 30 MINUTES. WE HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION JUST TO TALK ABOUT IT MM-HMM . AND JUST ASKING WHAT SHE AND I ASKED HER, WHERE DO YOU THINK WE COULD GET SOME STREETS? WHAT TREATS DO YOU THINK? AND WE JUST WENT THROUGH A FEW OF HER IDEAS. I SAID, MAYBE SHE DOES. I SAID, CHECK, YOU KNOW, HOW ABOUT THAT? AND THAT'S WHERE I CAME UP WITH THE AIRPORT. 'CAUSE SHE'S, SHE SUGGESTED THAT ONE. I WAS LIKE, OKAY, WHY NOT? LET'S, WE'LL PUT IT ON THE LIST MAYBE, BUT, BUT THIS IS A GOOD WAY OF GETTING ALL THIS. I THINK IT'S AT LEAST, AT LEAST TO GET THEIR INPUT. YOU HAD A CHANCE TO GIVE YOUR INPUT. YEAH. NOW I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT AFTERWARDS. NO, NO. THAT'S WHAT WILL HAPPEN. NO, I GOT IT. I'LL TELL YOU. LOOK, THE, WELL, WHAT I WANTED TO SAY IS IF ANYBODY HAS A LEAD ON A PRIVATE FUNDER THAT WOULD SUPPLEMENT, WE CAN MAKE MORE BANNERS WITH MORE MONEY. THERE'S NOTHING SAYING THAT WE CAN'T SEEK ADDITIONAL SOURCES OF SUPPORT. MAYBE IT DOESN'T LINE UP IN THE EXACT TIMEFRAME, BUT THERE'S NOTHING STOPPING US. BUT THEY, THEY WOULD WRITE A CHECK DIRECTLY TO THE BANNER COMPANY. YEAH. NOT WE GET AROUND THE SYSTEM. BUT WHY CAN'T WE JUST ASK, IF WE'RE TRYING TO EXPAND IT, WHY CAN'T WE JUST ASK THE APPLICANT FOR, UH, UM, LIKE A DONATION OR I DON'T THINK WE WANNA EVEN GO THERE. WANT IT, IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR US TO FORECAST AND BUDGET HOW [01:15:01] MANY MM-HMM . DEPENDING ON WHO COULD PAY AND WHO COULDN'T. 'CAUSE THEN YOU'D GET IN THE ARGUMENT OF WHO CAN PAY IT, WHO CAN'T. THEY MAY BE ABLE TO, BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO. THEY CAN SAY THEY CAN'T, BUT THEN THERE'D BE A, IT WOULD TURN INTO A POLITICAL HOT POTATO. 'CAUSE THEY'D SAY YOU ONLY TOOK PEOPLE WHO COULD AFFORD TO PAY OR YOU'D HAVE TO OFFER SCHOLARSHIPS. BUT RIGHT NOW, THE CITY HAS GIVEN US $25. I LIKE DOLLARS. THE IDEA, I LIKE THE IDEA IS THE FUNDRAISER. IT'S HOW DO WE, AS A FUNDING MECHANISM. I LIKE IT. BUT I'M LIKE, OKAY. I JUST DON'T THINK THE BLOWBACK WOULD BE WORTH IT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, OR COMMENTS? UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, UH, ANY, ANY COMMENTS ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? SO I WAS GOING TO ASK YEAH, WHEN DID I SAY SOMETHING? ? UM, SO MY THOUGHTS ARE, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO INVOLVE YOUR COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE THE IDEA OF BEING ABLE TO HIGHLIGHT OR FOCUS, UH, ATTENTION ON THE VETERANS IN THEIR DISTRICTS. AND THEY ACTUALLY WOULD PROBABLY DO A LOT OF THE LEGWORK FOR YOU TO IDENTIFY AREAS IN THEIR DISTRICT TO BRING ATTENTION TO. MM-HMM . RIGHT? THEY'LL DO A LOT OF THE LEGWORK FOR YOU. IF THEY CAN SPOTLIGHT, UM, AREAS OF THEIR COMMUNITY MM-HMM . UM, AND THEN HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THEIR FEATURED VETERANS IN THOSE AREAS. IF YOU CAN GUARANTEE, HEY, YOU GIVE US THE, THE AREA AND WE'LL ENSURE YOUR VETERAN IS ON YOUR POLE IN YOUR AREA. THAT'S GONNA, HOW, THAT'S KIND OF COOL. THAT'LL DRIVE IT. YOU WANT, YOU CAN, HOW DO YOU BUY IT? YOU HAVE IN ADDITION OTHER VETERANS, BUT IF YOU GUARANTEE AT A MINIMUM ONE OR TWO OF THEIR VETERANS IN THEIR AREA ON THEIR POLES. RIGHT. SO IT'S JUST, AND I'LL SAY THE ONLY PLACE THAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW THAT I CAN THINK OF IS OPEN, IS WITH THE, UM, WITH THE, UM, THANK YOU. UH, WITH THE GR UH, YOU KNOW, THE ARTESIA BECAUSE THAT'S NEW AND THOSE POLES ARE JUST NOW GOING UP. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WE TRIED THAT LAST YEAR. WE CAN CIRCLE BACK AROUND AGAIN AT LEAST DOING LIKE THE, LIKE THE FIRST YEAR PUT UP VETERAN BANNERS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S UNSPOKEN FOR. AND I, LAST THING I WOULD SAY IS I'D LOVE TO PARTNER. UH, 'CAUSE I WILL TELL YOU THAT IF YOU'VE BEEN ON OUR CAMPUS, WE HAVE THE, THE BANNERS ON OUR CAMPUS AND WE, UH, FEATURE OUR EMPLOYEES AND OUR WHOLE HEALTH CAMPAIGN MM-HMM . AND WE GET A LOT OF FEEDBACK ABOUT WOW, WE SHOULD PUT VETERANS ON OUR POLES TOO. MM-HMM . SO OUR VETERANS ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT BEING FEATURED ON POLLS. SO IF WE COULD PARTNER WITH YOU TO DO THAT, WE WOULD HAVE A LOT OF PARTICIPATION POTENTIAL OF ONE OF OUR, MAYBE WE TAKE 10 OF OUR WHATEVER AND WE PUT THEM ON THE POLLS. WE NEED A ONE YEAR COMMITMENT THOUGH. BUT WE CAN PROBABLY WORK THAT OUT. BUT WE PUT 10 OF OUR GROUP AS ONE OF THE STREETS AND UH, THAT COULD BE KIND OF COOL. ESPECIALLY VETERANS WHO ARE USING THE . YEAH. AND ESPECIALLY 'CAUSE THEM, WE DON'T MANAGE GETTING MORE OF THEM TO APPLY. AND THEN IF THE ONES WHO APPLY THAT PASS ALL THIS, THE VETTING AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF, AND WE'VE CHOSEN AND WE GO, OKAY, THOSE WHO ARE WE KNOW YOU LOOK AT YOU. OKAY. THE LIST THESE PEOPLE ARE, ARE, ARE CLIENTS OF OUR FACILITY. WE PUT THOSE GROUP ON THOSE POLES JUST BECAUSE THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. THAT'S, THAT'S AMAZING. I LIKE THAT. THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION. AS LONG AS WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE THAN ONE LOCATION. YEP. THE VETERAN MIGHT BE OFFERED THE CHOICE OF WHICH LOCATION HE OR SHE WOULD LIKE TO BE AT. YEAH. THERE YOU GO. YEAH. THEY CAN CHOOSE, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WANT TO BE AT THE VA, THEY CAN BE AT THE VA. IF THEY WANT TO BE ON THE THIS ONE, THEY CAN BE ON THIS ONE. MM-HMM . AS LONG AS WE HAVE A CHOICE, TELL THE RIGHT OUTTA CHOICE THERE. YOU'RE GONNA BE WHERE WE GOT SPOTS LEFT. RIGHT. AND WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, LEGAL HURDLES. LIKE AS SOON AS I HEAR THE VA I'M LIKE, HOW MANY APPROVALS WOULD BE INVOLVED? YES. YEAH, YEAH. YEAH. PERFECT. , HERE WE GO. OKAY. UM, OKAY. IS THAT ALL ON THIS? UM, UH, ANY, UH, CAN WE MAKE A, UM, A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS, UH, THE, THE REPORT ON THE VETERANS' DAY? UM, I'M SORRY, ON VETERANS DAY, ON THE VETERANS' BANNER PROGRAM. CAN I GET A MOTION? UM, JIM? YEP. AND CAN I GET A SECOND GO? JIM, JIM, JIM, JAMES, AND JIM. I HOPE I GOT THE OTHER ONES RIGHT. 'CAUSE I HAVE NICK, JIM, KEN, NICK. HOPEFULLY THAT JIM WAS YOU FOR ALL IN FAVOR. MINUTES FIVE. OKAY. ANY NAS FOR ABSTENTION? NONE. ALL APPROVED. OKAY. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS, WE'RE GONNA DO NUMBER 4 24 DASH 5 5 5 8 8 RECOMMENDATIONS TO DISCUSS THE VETERANS DAY. SO THE 2024 VETERANS DAY CELEBRATION. GINA, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO INTRODUCE THIS ITEM. OKAY. BASICALLY, WE DON'T HAVE TO GET IN DEEP ON THE AN AFTER ACTION REPORT. WE CAN TAKE SOME OF THIS UP, BUT I WANT TO JUST RECOGNIZE SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS. YOU'LL ALL, YOU'RE ALL HERE FOR YOUR HELP. FIRST, I WANNA SAY A BIG GIANT THANK YOU [01:20:01] TO THIS MAN RIGHT HERE, MR. KEN, WHO DID, UH, AN ACE JOB. THEN BE AT THE WAREHOUSE TO, TO DETERMINE WHAT ITEMS WE NEED NEEDED AT THE TABLE. UH, KEPT US COOL. GOT FIVE AT LEAST HOW MANY GIFT BASKETS, EIGHT GIFT BASKETS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AS GREAT INCENTIVES AND SIGNED UP 89 PEOPLE. EVERYBODY SIGNED FOR OUR NEWSLETTER. SO I WANT TO SAY RED BANNER, JOSH, THESE, THESE PEOPLE SIGNING UP. I JUST GOT THE GIFTS TO MAKE THEM DO IT. AND, UH, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO MY SISTER WHO WAS THERE ALL DAY AND THE BOOTH HAD WONDERFUL THINGS TO SAY ABOUT SITTING WITH ALL OF YOU. UH, THANKS TO TO JAMES. THANKS TO NICK. THANKS TO JIM. THANKS TO JUANITA. JUANITA BROUGHT HER DECORATIONS AND THINGS TO MAKE THE TABLE A LOT NICER. AND ALL OF YOU REALLY WORKED HARD. AND IF ANTOINETTE WERE HERE, WE, SHE REALLY TOOK CHARGE ON THE RESOURCES FAIR. WE WERE LIKE, EVEN ON FRIDAY NIGHT, WE WERE STILL LIKE, OKAY, THIS, THIS GUY GOES HERE AND THIS GROUP GOES HERE AND MAPPING IT ALL OUT. AND, AND UH, YOU KNOW, SHE DID THE PASSPORT, YOU KNOW, SO PEOPLE COULD GO AROUND AND GET STAMPS. I ALSO BROUGHT SOME UM, UH, GIVEAWAYS. OH YES. OH THAT'S RIGHT. ABSOLUTELY. YOU AND I BOTH BROUGHT AN EXTRA, WE, WE MM-HMM . WE WE DONATED ONE, ONE OF OUR OWN. YES. UH, THERE WERE TWO. I BROKE IT INTO TWO, I THINK. JUST A LOT OF THOUGHT, A LOT OF PLANNING. I THINK THE TURNOUT WAS OUTSTANDING. AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO BREAK IT DOWN. LIKE WAS IT BECAUSE OF BEACH STREETS? THAT, THAT IT WAS PROBABLY AT LEAST A 50% LARGER THAN LAST YEAR'S. I'M SAY WE GOT 25% BONUS US FROM GEE STREETS, AT LEAST THE NUMBER OF, OF BIKES THAT YOU SAW PARKED AT THE, AT THE TEMPORARY BIKE RACKS AND SHOV SHOWED THAT BEAT STREET HAD AN IMPACT. OKAY. BECAUSE I COULDN'T, I COULDN'T ESCAPE WHERE I WAS TO LIKE, PEOPLE WERE PUSHING THEIR BIKES 'CAUSE THERE WAS NO BIKE SPACE. OH MY GOD. HAVE YOU SEEN THE BIKE RACKS? OH MAN. I HOPE WE GOT SOME PICTURES. THEN YOU HAD THE BIKES ON THE SIDE, LIKE WHERE THEY WEREN'T ACTUALLY IN THE RACK. THEY JUST DID LIKE THE, THE TWO, ONE ON THIS SIDE, ONE ON THIS SIDE. AND THEN PEOPLE WERE PUSHING THEIR BIKES. ONE GROUP THAT WE'RE HAVING WE'RE AT THE, UH, THE, UH, BEVERAGE CENTER. THEY HAD THEIRS CHAIN TO THE TEMPORARY GATE. OH MY GOD. AT THE BEVERAGE CENTER BECAUSE WOW. THEY WERE SO ROOM. I'M SURE WE HELPED. I'M SURE B STREET'S HELPED THE BAR SINCE WE HAD THE ONLY BAR IN THE WHOLE THING. SERIOUSLY. WE DID PROBABLY. WOW. ASIDE FROM PUBLIC BAR, ASIDE FROM, YOU KNOW, BARBIE. OH, AN ESTABLISHMENT. YEAH. YEAH. WHEN WE WERE HAVING A BEER OVER THERE, THAT'S WHEN I NOTICED THE BIKE RACK. I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT. YEAH. INCREDIBLE. YEAH. WELL 'CAUSE WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT THAT. WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT HOW ARE THE VETERANS COMING TO PARK? YOU KNOW, THE, BECAUSE THEY'RE USED TO PARKING RIGHT NEXT TO THE VENUE, HOW THAT'S GONNA WORK. HOW IS THAT GONNA WORK? IT SOUNDS LIKE IT TURNED UP PRETTY GOOD. I, I THINK, I THINK THE ADDITION OF THE HANDICAPPED PARKING AND THE DISABLED PARKING WAS AN ABSOLUTE MUST BECAUSE MOST OF THE VETERANS WE'RE DEALING WITH NEED THAT SO, AND GRASS WAS HARD ENOUGH AND EVERYTHING THAT IT WAS SEMI INACCESSIBLE. IT WASN'T PERFECT, BUT IT'S BETTER THAN MOST PLACES. WE DO THESE THINGS. SO PEOPLE IN CHAIRS WERE ABLE TO GET AROUND RELATIVELY EASY. AND THEY HAD A PLACE TO PARK WHERE THEY WEREN'T GONNA HAVE TO ROLL 20 MILES TO GET, THE ONLY THING WE WERE MISSING WAS MORE CHAIRS FOR PEOPLE TO SIT. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? I DON'T UNDERSTAND. I I ACTUALLY CONTACTED SPECIAL EVENTS. I SAID LAST GUY, LAST TIME YOU GAVE US 50 TO A HUNDRED CHAIRS IN THE AUDIENCE. WHY ARE THERE SO FEW CHAIRS? BECAUSE I HAD NO IDEA. I THOUGHT THEY WERE GONNA DO THEIR NORMAL ORDER. UM, BUT WHAT I ALSO WANTED TO SAY IS THAT IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO NEEDS A A THANK YOU, PLEASE GIMME THEIR NAME AND EMAIL ADDRESS AND WHAT TO THANK THEM FOR. LIKE YOU HAVE YOUR GIFT BASKET PEOPLE. YEAH, I, I HAVE A LIST I'LL GIVE YOU OF ALL THE, BECAUSE I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA DO WHAT I'VE DONE IN THE PAST, WHICH IS PUT TOGETHER A PHOTO COLLAGE AND A THANK YOU CARD. IT'S ALL DIGITAL AND I WANT TO GET THOSE OUT WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO. SO IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT DESERVES A THANK YOU, A SPECIFIC ORGANIZATION, VET PERSON, ANYTHING THAT YOU THINK SHOULD HAVE A THANK YOU, PLEASE REACH OUT. AND WE HAVE 40 EVALUATIONS TO YOUR, FROM THE EVENT. SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE CRANKING THAT DATA AS WELL. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS SINCE WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING ON WHERE WE HAVE, UH, LIKE 15 MINUTES LEFT TO CLOSE THE MEETING OUT. UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS, 'CAUSE WE DID EVALUATION OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE. BUT IF YOU HAVE THOUGHTS ON LIKE, NEXT YEAR WE NEED MORE CHAIRS OR THE SPEAKERS SHOULD HAVE BEEN LOUDER OR ANY LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU WANNA JUST EMAIL ME? OKAY. THAT IS THE TWO THING. ONE SPEAKER'S LOUDER, TWO SHORTER. I THINK THREE HOURS MAX NO MATTER WHAT OTHER THINGS GOING ON. THREE HOURS MAX. I'D SAY THERE WAS A DEFINITE OF ALL THAT LAST HOUR. YOU LOSE, YOU, YOU START LOSING THE CROWD AT SOME POINT YOU START LOSING THE BEND, YOU START LOSING THE VENDORS. YEAH. AT THREE, AT THREE HOURS. WE LOST HALF THE VENDORS. DMH DIPPED OUT AT ABOUT AN HOUR LEFT. YEAH. OUR GOOD CONGRESSMAN WAS GONE WELL BEFORE THE END OF THE . IT WAS LONG FOR SURE. IT WAS, IT WAS AN HOUR LONGER THAN LAST YEAR. I THINK IT WAS 11 TO THREE LAST YEAR. AND MAYBE THAT WAS A BEACH THAT'S FOUR HOURS. SO I'D SAY EVEN SHORTER. I THINK THREE HOURS IS A NICE COMPACT TIME TO GET EVERYTHING IN. [01:25:01] BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, EVERYBODY'S GONE. 'CAUSE THEN IT'S A SOLID TIME PERIOD. PEOPLE WILL STICK AROUND FOR MAYBE THAT LONG. PEOPLE CAN STILL DO THEIR BIKES OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, FOR AFTERWARDS. BUT DID YOU SAY THE SPEAKY THE SPEAKERS WEREN'T LOUD ENOUGH? I'M SORRY. IT WAS NOT, IT WAS NOT LOUD. OH WAS IT? YEAH, IT WAS. YOU COULDN'T HEAR. BUT BECAUSE WE SPREAD IT OUT, WHICH IS A GOOD THING. SO YOU COULD TALK TO PEOPLE DURING ALL THE ACTS THEY NEED TO. AND I HAD HIM CRANK IT UP FOR THE, THE RAFFLE SO PEOPLE COULD HEAR THE TICKETS IN THE BACK 'CAUSE THEY COULDN'T HEAR THE TICKETS AT THE BACK END. MM-HMM . SO MAYBE IT'S JUST HAVING A BETTER CONVERSATION WITH THE DJ TO INSTRUCT HIM AT CERTAIN THAT TO DEAL WITH THE SOUND AND THE IMPORTANT THINGS LIKE WHEN THEY'RE SPEAKING, CRANK IT UP. YEAH. WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE SHOWS, MAYBE A LITTLE DOWN, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH US. WE'LL HELP YOU GAUGE WHAT'S RIGHT AND WHAT'S WRONG. WHAT, WHAT MY H NOTE IS, WHO IS A SOUND PERSON IS THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE THEIR BLOCKBUSTER SOUND EQUIPMENT OUT. THEY HAD LIKE THE QUIETER VERSION OF IT BECAUSE THEY WERE PROBABLY DOING THREE DIFFERENT SITES AND THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'LL JUST USE THE CHEAPER SPEAKERS HERE OR WHATEVER. BUT HE NOTICED IT RIGHT AWAY. HE WAS LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE, THIS ISN'T BOOMING LIKE IT WAS LAST YEAR. YEAH. YOU KNOW. OKAY. SO WE, WE NEED A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE ON THIS. WHAT? NO, WE GET A MOTION. ARE GOOD. JIM, CAN I GET A SECOND? WE'LL PUT NICK ON IT. NO SECOND. OKAY. UH, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY NAYS? ABSTENTIONS? NO, IT PASSES ALL. OKAY. DID WE GET A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE NO, WE'RE GONNA, UM, AND, AND WHAT IS IT AGAIN? SO FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3 24 5 5 5 8, 7, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO, CAN I GET A MOTION TO YEAH. A MOTION TO DELAY MOTION. MOTION TO DELAY TABLE TO NOVEMBER. UM, DECEMBER MEETING. YEP. I MOTIONS. AYE AND A SECOND. JIM AND JUANITA. UM, CAN I, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY NAYS? ABSTENTIONS. OKAY. THAT PASSES. WE'LL MOVE THAT TO DECEMBER. BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM. RIGHT. AND THEN NEXT, WHAT'S LEFT? SIX AND SEVEN WE CAN KIND OF COMBINE. OKAY. UH, NUMBER SIX. 2 4 5 5, 5, 9, 0. RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS. INTERVIEW CELEBRATION ON DECEMBER 11TH. GINO, UM, TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO INTRODUCE, WE HOPE TO HAVE IT AT THE RAHE, THE RONIA HEALTH EQUITY CENTER LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR AND WE HOPE TO HAVE IT CATERED. BUT AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY AND IT'S FINANCIAL SITUATION, I'M WORKING ON NEGOTIATING THAT RIGHT NOW. SO IF WE CANNOT, I BROUGHT THE HANDY DANDY SIGN UP FOR THE POTLUCK SHEET. SO IF YOU WANT TO BRING WHERE, WHERE DID YOU SAY IT WAS GONNA BE? UH, THE RONS HEALTH EQUITY CENTER. THAT'S IN TON PARK. SO THE, THE, YEAH, I, YEAH, I IT IS AT THE CORNER. IT'S LIKE THE OPPOSITE AND IT'S DIAGONAL FROM, YOU CAN'T GET ANY FURTHER AT THE PARK FROM THE, UH, HELICOPTER. IT'S THE SAME PLACE WHERE WE HAD THE, THAT NEW, UM, OFFICE, THE HOUSING OFFICE. REMEMBER WHERE THEY HAD THEIR OPEN HOUSE, HOMELESS STRATEGIC PLAN. HOMELESS AND HOMELESS STRATEGIC PLAN. SO, YOU KNOW. AND DO WE WANNA HAVE A WHITE ELEPHANT GIFT EXCHANGE THIS YEAR AGAIN? WE'VE DONE IT. YEAH. EVERY YEAR WE GOTTA KEEP THAT TRADITION. IS THAT OKAY WITH Y'ALL? WHY NOT? AND THEN IF YOU HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE SITE, POSSIBLY SAY WE CAN'T USE THE RATE THE RATE HECK, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PAY THEIR STAFF. AND WE WERE, WE WANTED TO CATER IT. SO IF YOU WANNA HAVE IT IN AN ALTERNATIVE LOCATION, WE CAN HAVE IT ANYWHERE IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH. AS LONG AS WE PUBLICLY NOTICE IT. SO IF SOMEBODY SAYS WE, WE WANNA HAVE IT AT LONG BEACH BEER LAB HAVE PIZZA. IT HAS TO BE IN LONG BEACH. IT HAS TO BE IN LONG BEACH. CAN WE HAVE IT AT YOUR OFFICE, KIM? IS THAT AN OPTION? I'VE GOT A CONFERENCE, CONFERENCE ROOM I CAN PROBABLY USE. OKAY. BECAUSE IT'S AFTER HOURS AND NOBODY'S GONNA BE THERE ANYWAYS. SO IN PARKING. OKAY. OH YEAH, THAT'S SECOND. AND PCH BASICALLY I HAVE TO ASK, YOU'LL PROBABLY, OKAY, SO KEN'S WILL BE THE ALTERNATE LOCATION. WE ARE DOING A WHITE ELEPHANT AND WE HAVE THE, THE SIGNUP FOR, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO BRING LIMIT ON THE, UM, WHITE ELEPHANT 25. WHAT SOUNDS GREAT. THIS IS THE EXCITING STUFF I KNOW. . OKAY. ANY OTHER, UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, UM, THE VETERANS DAY? UM, I DON'T KNOW WHY I KEEP SAYING THAT. THE END OF THE YEAR CELEBRATION. NOPE. DECEMBER 11TH. OKAY. IF THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM, WHICH WOULDN'T BE ANY. THOSE ? NO. OKAY. CAN I GET A MOTION MOTION? JIM? CAN I GET A SECOND? THE OTHER, THE OTHER, THE OTHER. JIM JAMES. UM, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY NAYS? ANY ABSTENTION PASSES. GOT IT. OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS 7 24 5 5 5 9 2. RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS LEADERSHIP OR, UM, LEADERSHIP. E-BOARD. UM, COMMITTEE. UM, GINA, WHAT DO YOU WANT DOING IT? WELL, YOU CAN HANDLE IT. OKAY. SO, UM, HERE, [01:30:01] WHAT WE'RE DOING, 'CAUSE WE'RE GETTING TO THE, UM, WE'RE GETTING TO THE END OF THE YEAR. SO WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE FOR OUR, UM, OUR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO, UM, NOMINATE THEMSELVES. YOU CAN EITHER, YOU CAN EITHER SELF NOMINATE OR IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE ONE OF YOUR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, YOU CAN SELF NOMINATE OR NOMINATE ONE OF YOUR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. PLEASE SEND THAT EMAIL TO PLEASE SEND AN EMAIL TO GINA. AND THE POSITIONS WOULD BE THANK YOU. UM, CHAIR, VICE CHAIR. AND WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD IS I'M HAVING A, UH, I'M HAVING THE CLERK. SO IT WOULD BE ACTUALLY THREE POSITIONS. AND WHAT WE'LL DO AT OUR NEXT MEETING, WE WOULD ALSO, UM, HAVE A LIST, UM, A VERY HIGH LEVEL LIST OF WHAT THE ROLES AND EXPECTATIONS ARE, UM, OF THE CHAIR, THE VICE CHAIR, AND THE CLERK. AND I WOULD, AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO OPEN IT UP 'CAUSE WE'RE FAIRLY NEW, UM, FOR YOU GUYS TO WEIGH IN. SO IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CLERK, RIGHT? THE CLERK WOULD PUT TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, PUT TOGETHER, UM, THE MEETING FOR THE E-BOARD, THE AGENDA ITEMS THAT ARE GONNA BE TAKING, TAKING SUGGESTIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THINGS TO BE PUT ON THE AGENDA. THE CLERK WOULD ASSEMBLE ALL THAT. AND THEN WHEN WE HAVE OUR MEETING, OUR E-BOARD MEETING, WE WOULD TAKE THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION. ANOTHER EXAMPLE WOULD BE MAILING OUT, UM, THE AGENDA OR WHEN OUR NEXT MEETING AGENDA IS TO THE FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, I WOULD OPEN IT UP AT THIS TIME FOR, UH, THIS AGENDA ITEM. ANY QUESTIONS? I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THAT HAVE WHAT? HAVING A CLERK. CLERK OF THE SECRETARY. YEAH. YOU CAN DO A SECRETARY, BUT NOT A CLERK. WELL, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A CLERK. I'M THE CLERK ON OUR, I'M THE CLERK ON OUR BOARD OF TRUSTEE. SORRY. IT, IT, IT'S WHATEVER YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE. WELL, THAT'S THE JOB THAT I ALREADY DO. SO I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BY THAT AS WELL. IT'S, IT'S TO HELP. IT'S TO HELP. THAT'S WHY WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. REMEMBER TO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO CALL ATTENTION TO THE, THIS HORRIBLE THING THAT'S HARD TO READ. AND I'M SO SORRY THAT THE CHAIR'S ROLE, THE CHAIR OR IN THEIR ABSENCE OF VICE CHAIR PERFORMS THE FOLLOWING DUTIES. PRESIDES THAT ALL MEETINGS THAT THE COMMISSION AND ENSURES THAT THE WORK OF THE COMMISSION IS ACCOMPLISHED. POINTS COMMISSION MEMBERS TO TEMPORARY SUBCOMMITTEES AND AD HOC COMMITTEES SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. UM, AS NECESSARY APPROVES AGENDA PRIOR TO DISTRIBUTION SIGNS, CORRESPONDENCE ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION REPRESENTS THE COMMISSION BEFORE CITY COUNCIL WITH APPROVAL OF THE COMMISSION AND APPROVES AND SIGNS COMMISSION REPORTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS PREPARED BY THE COMMISSION. SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME SINCE THEY'VE REVISED THE ROLES THAT I'VE SEEN THIS MUCH DETAIL FOR THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR OF, OF, SO THAT'S ONE THING I WANTED TO JUST, YOU HAD WANTED ME TO SHARE THIS? YES. YES. OKAY. AND, AND, AND AGAIN, IF YOU, UM, AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, NEW AND I'M RECOMMENDING IT TO, TO, TO HAVE OUR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, TO BE A PART AND KIND OF ASSIST, YOU KNOW, ASSIST GINA WITH SOME OF THE, UM, SOME OF THE, UM, ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES, ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES UNTIL, UM, WE ONBOARD, UM, A, WHAT IS IT CALLED? WHAT'S THE FIRST NAME? FREE LABOR. THE KIDS AN INTERN. UH, AN INTERN. . OKAY. UM, GO AHEAD JIM. HEY, THE STATE APPROVED SLATE. I HAVE A QUESTION. YES. GINA? LIKE YOU'RE FOR THE CITY OFFICE OF VETERAN COURT. WHY CAN'T YOU HAVE A VA WORK STUDY? WHY CAN'T WE, WHAT, WHY CAN'T HAVE YOU EXPLORED HAVING A VA WORK STUDY? UM, WE DID LOOK INTO IT ONE AT ONE POINT, UH, WHEN GUS WAS CHAIR, BUT IT JUST, IT DIDN'T PAN OUT WELL. THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE CAN'T BECAUSE COUNTY, IF COUNTY CAN HAVE IT, IT DOESN'T BE VA EXCLUSIVE OR VA CERTIFY INSTITUTION EXCLUSIVE IF MBA CAN HAVE THEM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I ASKED. UM, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. IF, IF YOU DON'T MIND TAKING LEAD ON HOW I CONNECT UP WITH, WITH IT, DO THEY HAVE TO BE CONNECTED TO LIKE LBCC OR CAL STATE KIND OF THING? WELL, THAT'S THING THEY HAVE TO BE IN SCHOOL, BUT IT'S JUST THAT THEY'RE IN SCHOOL BETWEEN, I MEAN, BETWEEN CAL STATE LONG BEACH, UH, YOU KNOW, DOMINGUEZ HILLS, LBCC. WE'LL FIND A VETERAN THAT'S POLITICS MINDED OR, YOU KNOW, WANTS TO GET A MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT, HEY, HOOK ME UP. JUST TELL ME HOW SOON BECAUSE, UM, WELL FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU. MM-HMM . THANK YOU FOR PROPOSING THESE POSITIONS. I DON'T THINK WE CAN, WE HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SAY WE WANT TO ADD THIS POSITION. YES. RIGHT. AND, AND MAYBE WE DO THAT AT DECEMBER. 'CAUSE WE WANT TO WRITE, BUT THEN LIKE, HOW WOULD WE HAVE, WE WOULD WANT SOMEBODY TO PUT IN THEIR NOMINATION FOR THAT. CAN WE MAKE A QUICK MOTION ON THAT? I MEAN, DO YOU GUYS LIKE, I MEAN, I AM FORWARD, I THINK WHAT DOES THE AGENDA SAY? [01:35:01] WELL, WE, WHAT, SO WE SAID THE, WELL THE AGENDA SAYS A RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS LEADERSHIP ELECTIONS, BUT I THOUGHT WE WERE JUST ACCEPTING NOMINATIONS. NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A NEW POSITION. WE DON'T HAVE A WRITEUP OF WHAT THAT POSITION DOES. OR DOES THE CITY ALLOW THAT TO SORT OF POSITION? I DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT THAT PART. I THINK, I THINK AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T SAY FILE AND RECORD, I THINK WE CAN MAKE AN ACTION. MM-HMM . WE, THE MINUTES WILL COVER WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. CORRECT. AND THEN WE'LL FLESH IT OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE. ALL RIGHT. WELL, UM, I THINK I'M JUST SAYING LEGITIMATELY UNDER ROBERT'S RULES, I THINK WE'RE, I THINK WE WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE OKAY IF WE MAKE A MOTION. MAKE A MOTION. YES. WE DIDN'T YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION ON IT? I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADD THE POSITION OF, WHAT ARE WE GONNA CALL, CALL SECRETARY, SECRETARY, TWOS. SECRETARY, SECRETARY TO OUR BOARD. SECOND. I'LL MAKE A SECOND ON THAT. OKAY. UM, DISCUSSION. DISCUSSION. THAT, THAT, THAT POSITION WILL BE DEFINED. POSITION TO, TO, TO BE DEFINED. TO BE DEFINED. BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO NO, NO, I GOT IT. SAY WE'RE GONNA DO IT WITHOUT, I GET IT. WITHOUT POSITION. POSITION TO BE DEFINED. YEAH. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NO. NO. WHAT IS IT? SAY? AMENDMENT ACCEPTED. YES. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OKAY. SO THAT MOTION PASSES. ANY DISCUSSION ON PUBLIC COMMENT? NO. UM, OKAY. SO THAT, SO THAT'S GOOD, GINA. WE GOT THAT DONE. OKAY. UM, OKAY. SO WE'RE MOVING THAT FORWARD, RIGHT? THAT, OKAY, WE ALREADY DID THAT. OKAY. SO NOW OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS WE'RE GONNA GO, UM, ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS AT THIS TIME OPPORTUNITY TO FOR YOU. OKAY. GO AHEAD. UM, SORRY, THIS IS NOT PRETTY, BUT BASICALLY THE THING THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR HAND IS CD FIVE IS DOING A VETERANS DONATION DRIVE IN CELEBRATION OF VETERANS DAY AND ENTERING INTO THE HOLIDAY SEASON FROM NOVEMBER 11TH TO DECEMBER 27TH. YOU CAN DROP OFF AT THESE LOCATIONS. IT'S, IT'S ON YOUR FLYER. THE MERCHANT EXPO, ART CENTER, USPS, THAT'S POST SERVICE, COFFEE, DRUNK BALES DINER, DD FIVE FIELD OFFICE, UH, TRACY'S BAR, DEMPSEY'S GROUNDS CAFE, ET CETERA. THEY WANT NEW CLOTHES, NEW BLANKET SHOES, NEW BATHROOM SETS, FIRST AID KITS, UH, MEDICATION PILL COUNTERS, UH, NEW KITCHEN SETS, NEW HYGIENE CARE, DAILY PLANNERS, CALENDARS, NOTEPADS, PENS, WALLETS AND BACKGROUND BACKPACKS. SO SUPPORT OUR LOCAL HEROES BY DONATING TO OUR LONG BEACH VETERANS. THEY HAVE MORE DETAIL ON REQUESTED ITEMS, DROP OFF, LOCATION FLYER, ET CETERA. AND YOU CAN ALSO MAKE DONATIONS. JOHN'S ORGANIZATION IS INVOLVED WITH THIS QR CODE. SO YOU EACH HAVE FLYERS. I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS ELECTRONICALLY EXCEPT FROM, FROM, UH, MEGAN KERR'S OFFICE. BUT WANTED TO JUST, UH, PUT THAT OUT THERE SO THAT YOU CAN SUPPORT AS YOU FEEL COMPELLED TO, OR TO REACH OUT TO PEOPLE TO SUPPORT. WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT I WANT THE ELECTRONIC VERSION SO YOU CAN PUT IT ON YOUR SOCIALS AND EMAIL IT TO PEOPLE. DO WE, UH, I THINK KNOW WHO IS ACTUALLY RENDERING THESE GOODS? LIKE PROVIDING THEM? WE ARE ANYBODY ASKING LIKE THE COMMISSION? WELL, YOU CAN DO IT AS AN INDIVIDUAL. OH, NO, BUT I MEANT FROM THERE, LIKE, ARE WE, IS THIS TRUCKLOAD GETTING DROPPED OFF TO JOHN AND, OH, I DIDN'T, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. YEAH. YOU'RE ASKING WHO IS GOING TO GET THEM? WHO'S GONNA BE THE RECIPIENT? YEAH. WELL, YES. ONCE IT'S ALL COLLECTED. WHO, WHO IT ALL BEING TURNED OVER? IT SAYS IT RIGHT HERE THROUGH THE, THE LONG BEACH VE COLLAB. OH, JOHN. JOHN. YES. BUT I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. LIKE, IS HE HOLDING ONTO THE STUFF? IS HE DISTRIBUTING TO OTHER VETERANS ORGANIZATIONS THAT I THINK IT'S STILL A, A GOOD QUESTION'S. PROBABLY GONNA TAKE IT TO US. WE DON'T KNOW. THAT'S, THAT'S BOTTOM LINE. BUT YOU KNOW, THIS WENT OUT. YOU, YOU ARE FREE TO, TO, YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY REACH OUT TO ROBERT A AATE OR, OR TO JUST PUT DISTRICT5@LONGBEACH.GOV AND SAY, HEY, I'M JUST CURIOUS, UH, WHERE, WHO ARE THESE ITEMS BEING DISTRIBUTED TO? WHAT, WHO ARE THE PARTNERSHIPS? AND IF THEY SAY, WELL, WE'LL JUST GIVE THEM TO JOHN AND HE'S GONNA DECIDE. WELL, I, THAT'S OKAY TOO. BUT WE, BUT THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT BECAUSE SOMEONE WILL ASK US , WE GIVE IT TO SOMEBODY. THEY'RE GONNA ASK US. SOMEONE MAY ASK US ANY OTHER, UM, ANY OTHER, UM, QUESTIONS? YES. YES. I, I HAVE A THOUGHT. GINA WAS HAVING TROUBLE GETTING SHIRTS FOR US. WHAT IF, WHAT IF WE DID, UH, MAGNETIC NAME TAGS, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE HAVE OUR NAME AND BELOW THE NAME IT WOULD SAY, UH, VETERANS COMMISSION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THEN WE WOULD ONLY, WE, WE COULD WEAR THAT WITH ANYTHING IF I LIKE IT. JIM, [01:40:01] THEY ACTUALLY DID SUGGEST THAT. HUH? WE, WE HAVE AN OPTION TO THAT AND, AND I TALKED ABOUT IT. WE WERE TALKING VERY SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THAT IDEA. YEAH. AND WHAT IF WE GOT THE OTHER, THERE'S OTHER VERSIONS OF THIS THING THAT'S, THAT ARE BETTER LOOKING THAT HOLD ONE OF THESE THAT ARE CLIP. SO YOU COULD HAVE YOUR ID, WHICH HAS YOUR PICTURE ON IT AND YOUR CITY COMMISSION AND ALL THAT STUFF. MM-HMM . AND WE HAD THIS AS OUR BADGE A THOUGHT. WHAT DO YOU THINK? I MEAN, THAT WAS MY FAULT. HONESTLY, IF WE'RE GOING BADGE INSTEAD, LIKE WE HAVE THEM, I'M WEARING MINE RIGHT NOW. IT EVEN HAS MY PICTURE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE TO ME A A NAME BADGE, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY VETERANS COMMISSION. THAT'S THE THING. A MAGNETIC BADGES ARE RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE. I JUST BOUGHT FIVE FOR 20 AND WOW. I BUY ONE FOR MY COMPANY. SO THEY'RE ABOUT, AT MOST CUSTOM BADGE IS GONNA COST YOU 10 BUCKS A POP AT THAT CUSTOM DESIGN. AND WE COULD, WE WOULDN'T USE THE CITY'S LOGO. GOD HELP US. NICE SASH. WE COULD HAVE SOMETHING . WE'LL, WE CAN START WORKING ON DESIGNING SOMETHING. AND I THINK THAT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA. AND I THINK WE JUST, WE EACH CHIP IN OUR 10 BUCKS OR WHATEVER IT IS SURE. AND BUY OUR BADGE. AND WE HAVE OUR BADGE. AND THEN LIKE YOU SAID, WE CAN WEAR THEM WHEN WE GO TO THOSE FANCY EVENTS, SOMETIMES WE GET INVITED TO THOSE CITY EVENTS AND YOU WEAR IN A SUIT. IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOMETHING IN A SUIT OR YOU'RE GOING TO VISIT SOME ORGANIZATION AND YOU'RE DRESSED IT, IT WOULD'VE EVEN WORKED LAST WEEKEND IF, UH, YEAH, IT WOULD'VE BEEN GREAT IF IT WOULD'VE BEEN GREAT. 'CAUSE THIS THING JUST, THEY JUST THINK WE'RE ONE OF ANOTHER ONE OF THE CITY EMPLOYEES EVEN THOUGH THEY HAD A FIT FOR THEM. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW. WOULD YOU KNOW IF WE RETAIN BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE CITY, WOULD YOU HAVE TIME TO DESIGN THAT? THIS WOULD BE, DO YOU HAVE TIME TO DESIGN THAT? YEAH. CHRISTINA, YOU HAVE A COMMENT, COMMENT ONE, GIVE. OKAY. PUBLIC IT UP. PUBLIC COMMENT. THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS I, I DO SUPPORT. WE CALL, WE HAVEN'T AT LONG BEACH, THE, OUR BANK TELLER BADGES. SURE. I DO SUPPORT THE BANK TELLER BADGE OVER THE PHOTO. YEAH. NO, I, AND THE ONLY REASON, REASON I WOULD SAY THAT IS VETERANS ARE PROBABLY THE MOST, UM, WHOSE IDENTITY ARE STOLEN. AND SO YOUR BADGE WITH YOUR FACE AND YOUR NAME PROBABLY NOT A GOOD THING TO PUT OUT THERE. YEAH. UM, SO JUST YOUR NAME ON THE BADGE IS PROBABLY A BETTER WAY TO GO. BUT YOU AS A COHORT ARE THE MOST STOLEN IDENTITY OUT THERE. SO I GET IT. IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATELY REALLY IF I WALK IN WITH MY BANK THAT THE SEE FOR SOME SORT OF OFFICIAL REASON, THEY'RE GONNA STOP ME AND THEY'RE GONNA BE LIKE, WELL THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING. BUT IF THEY, I GOT, YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT TOO. BUT TO HAVE THAT ON YOUR, ON YOUR BODY WITH IT THERE, OUT THERE SO THAT SOMEONE CAN TAKE A PHOTO AND TAKE IT WITH IT, THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM IF YOU HAVE IT AND YOU PULL IT OUT AND SHOW IT. BUT THIS WAY SOMEONE COULD COVERTLY GO LIKE THIS AND TAKE YOUR PHOTO AND HAVE YOUR NAME, YOUR PHOTO. AND PEOPLE ARE, ARE DUPLICITOUS. I'M SORRY, I THINK WE'RE GONNA DO A FUTURE AGENDA. ARE THERE? THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANY, IS ANY OTHER, UM, DISCUSSIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS? IF NOT, I WILL ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 6 52. THANK YOU. YEP. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.