* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. APRIL 9TH, 2025. [00:00:02] VETERANS COMMISSION MEETING. OKAY, WE'RE GONNA PROCEED TO ORDER, UM, START WITH ROLL CALL. SO GO AHEAD AND READ THE NAMES. THANK YOU FOR GETTING THAT. I'M HERE. KEN'S C*****G. JUANITA, PRESENT. JAMES? HERE. UH, JAMES QUI HERE. WELL, JAMES. THIS RIGHT HERE. OKAY. NICHOLAS HERE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GONNA DO THE PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE. JAMES, CAN YOU READ US? WAIT. . . THAT'S YOUR, YOUR JAW, HUH? ALRIGHT. HANDS OVER YOUR HEART. CHOOSE. ALL RIGHT. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU, JAMES. OKAY, SO WE HAVE SOME NEW FACES HERE. SO IF WE CAN JUST BRIEFLY GO AROUND THE TABLE, UH, THE ROOM AND INTRODUCE OURSELVES REALLY QUICKLY. I'M MS. ETTE, VICE CHAIR, UH, DISTRICT SIX REPRESENTATIVE. AWESOME. MY NAME IS ANTHONY MONTALVO. I'M THE CCR PROGRAM MANAGER. WE'LL BE PRESENTING ON THE COMMUNITY CRISIS RESPONSE PROGRAM TODAY. WE NEED TO GO FOR MORE COMMISSIONER. MAKE SURE I MAKE, UH, COMMISSIONER DISTRICT SEVEN. GO AHEAD. UH, SEAN JONES. UH, I AM IN DISTRICT NINE AND, UH, I TALKED TO, UH, SOME FORMER MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. AND SO, UH, I'M INTERESTED IN JOINING. I WANNA BE PART OF A MEETING BEFORE I COMMIT TO ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SEE IF WE'RE ALL CRAZY. , BEHAVE OURSELVES TODAY ANYWAY. OH, UH, STEVE HAMAN, AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPER. OKAY. UM, I'M JEANETTE. I'M HERE WITH JAMES. I'M TON GEORGIA . RYAN NANCY'S FORMER COMMISSIONER, DISTRICT SEVEN. UH, NOW I JUST VOLUNTEERED WITH SOME OF THE OTHER VETERAN ORGANIZATIONS RIGHT OUT , JIM GOODEN, COMMISSIONER, DISTRICT ONE. YOU KNOW JAMES AUTER? COMMISSIONER? YOU CAN READ THE, YOU DIDN'T INTRODUCE YOURSELF. OH, . EVERYBODY KNOWS ME. I'M GINA. I'M GINA OVERHOLT, THE VETERANS COMMISSION AND OFFICE OF VETERANS SUPPORT COORDINATOR. OKAY. SO NOW I OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. DOES ANYONE HERE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC? COMMENTS ARE ON NON AGENDA ITEMS AT THIS POINT, BUT THERE'S ALSO PUBLIC COMMENT WHEN A MOTION IS MADE IN DISCUSSION. FOLLOWS ON THE AGENDA ITEMS. ALRIGHT. OKAY. SO CHAIR REPORT. WE'RE GONNA SKIP FOR NOW 'CAUSE KEN'S NOT HERE. YES. I'M WONDERING THOUGH, STEVE, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE YOU OFFICIALLY ON THE AGENDA, IF YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND DO YOUR COMMENT. CANDY EMAILED ME LAST TIME AND SAID, COME. OKAY. I'M WORRIED ABOUT HONEY. WORRIED JUST GENERAL WAS THE GENERAL TERM. SO, UH, YEAH. THEN MAYBE THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME. YES, PLEASE. UM, SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON OUR ARCHITECTURAL PLANS. WE EXPECT TO HAVE EVERYTHING READY TO GO TO PLANNING APPROVAL BY THE END OF APRIL. AND WE DON'T WANT TO JUST ROLL INTO PLANNING APPROVAL. SO IT, WHAT MY THOUGHT WAS TODAY WAS I, I WAS WANTING TO ULTIMATELY ASK THIS COMMISSION AFTER WE HAVE THE ARCHITECTURAL PLANS DEVELOPED THAT I'D LIKE TO PRESENT THAT TO THE COMMISSION, UM, AND ASK FOR THE COMMISSION'S. UM, I, UH, PUT A SMILEY FACE STICKER ON IT, ENDORSEMENT, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. IT'S INFORMAL, OBVIOUSLY, BUT I'D LIKE TO BE ON THE NEXT, UH, THE MAY AGENDA FOR A PRESENTATION AND A REQUEST FOR ENDORSEMENT. OKAY. SO ALL THAT AND, AND JUST TO, CAN YOU JUST TELL, GIVE US A ONE SENTENCE. HELLO? ARE YOU HERE FOR THE VETERANS COMMISSION? I AM. WELCOME. OPEN CHAIR. GRAB A SEAT. HERE'S, HERE'S THE SIGN IN SHEET. UH, LET'S SEE. CAN YOU JUST TELL US ABOUT THE PROJECT REALLY QUICK AND BREAK? YEAH. OH, OH, ABSOLUTELY. IT'S, UH, IT'S ON 1400 CHARITY, UH, AND IT IS, UH, VA HOUSING FOCUSED, MEANING IT WON'T BE A HUNDRED PERCENT VA HOUSING, UH, WITH, UH, VA COUNSELING AND SOCIAL SERVICES PROVIDED AS WELL AS PROPERTY MANAGEMENT ON THE GROUND FLOOR. 100 UNITS, 101 BEDROOM UNITS. EXCELLENT. EXCELLENT. I FAILED THE ONE SENTENCE TEST . AND YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT FOR HOW LONG NOW? OH, GOSH. UH, THIS IS OUR, OUR SECOND SITE THAT WE'VE WORKED ON AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT SINCE THE [00:05:01] FALL, BUT ON THIS PROJECT SINCE, UH, UH, ACTIVELY SINCE ABOUT OCTOBER. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY. STAFF REPORT. OKAY. MY STAFF REPORT WILL, WILL, WE ARE MOSTLY GOING TO HANDLE IT. AND YOU'RE ALSO WELCOME TO STAY . UM, IT, WHEN WE DO THE BANNERS ITEM, 'CAUSE THAT HAS BEEN MY LIFE FOR THE, FOR THE RECENT, UH, IN RECENT WEEKS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO NOW WE MOVE ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA. SO I JUST GO BY THESE ONE BY ONE. RIGHT, RIGHT. OKAY. UH, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMISSION MEETING OF WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 12TH, 2025. MOTION TO APPROVE THE FEBRUARY, UM, UH, MEETING AGENDA. SECONDED. ALRIGHT. UH, THEN YOU JUST HAVE TO SAY ALL, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. OH, SORRY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. SHOULD ASK FOR COMMENTS FIRST. IS IT COMMENTS FIRST? OKAY. PUBLIC COMMENT. ANY COMMENT ON THE MINUTES? ANYTHING NEED TO BE CORRECTED, EDITED, STILL LOOKING AGENDA. OF COURSE HE HAS. HE'S JUST OH, OKAY. OH, OKAY. SO NO COMMENT FOR THE MEETING? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, DO WE DO THAT OVER? YEAH, SURE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. AND WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE? ABSTAIN. ALL , ALL THOSE THAT ARE OPPOSED, ORAIN. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, SO NOW YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND ANNOUNCE THE NEXT DUDE. OKAY. UH, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE A FILE DISCUSSION ON A VE ON VETERANS AND SERVICE MEMBERS JOB FAIR ON APRIL 17TH. I'M SORRY. UM, I'M GOING TO PUT YOU ON THE AGENDA NEXT. UH, WE HAVE ANTHONY MONTALVO HERE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE HIM, THAT, THAT ITEM WOULD BE NUMBER FOUR. OKAY. OKAY. SO THIS IS ANTHONY VO, UH, COMMUNITY CRISIS RESPONSE PROGRAM MANAGER. HE'S GONNA GIVE US A PRESENTATION REALLY QUICK. YEAH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, THANK YOU FOR THE INTRODUCTION. I'M GOING TO STAND JUST SO I PROJECT A LITTLE BETTER. UM, I FIND THAT I'M QUIETER WHEN I, YOU I CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THAT. OKAY. IN HERE. SO HOPEFULLY THIS DOESN'T STAY CLOSE TOO LONG. I APOLOGIZE IF IT DOES. DOWN. UH, MY NAME IS ANTHONY. I AM THE COMMUNITY CRISIS RESPONSE PROGRAM MANAGER HERE FOR THE CITY OF LONG BEACH DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH HUMAN SERVICES. I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THAT PROGRAM, WHAT THE PROGRAM IS, DO A LITTLE BIT OF DATA, BUT REALLY THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU ALL IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, INTEREST IN THE PROGRAM AND WHAT WE DO. AND IN THE FUTURE OF OUR PROGRAM, WE'RE CURRENTLY IN A PROCESS OF, UM, CONVERSATION TO EXPAND IN THE WAY THAT WE PROVIDE SERVICES. . THAT'S ACTUALLY A REALLY IMPORTANT TIME FOR US AS WE LOOK AT FUTURE BUDGET AND WE LOOK AT FUTURE EXPANSION ACTIVITIES. UH, WOULD YOU GO AHEAD AND HIT THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE? THANK YOU. UM, I LIKE TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT ABOUT OUR PROGRAM. UH, WE'RE VERY TRANSPARENT IN THE FACT THAT OUR PROGRAM WAS BORN OUT OF THE 2020, UM, PROTEST FOR THE MURDER OF GEORGE FLOYD AND THE RACIAL EQUITY RECONCILIATION INITIATIVE AND FRAMEWORK THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. AS MANY OF US REMEMBER, THERE WAS A LOT OF UNREST, UM, DISAPPOINTMENT, ANGER, UH, LOSS OF PUBLIC TRUST AROUND SERVICES, AROUND POLICING, AROUND A LOT OF THINGS THAT THE CITY HAS DONE AND SOME HARM THAT HAVE HAPPENED. THIS, UH, I'M NOT GONNA GO TOO MUCH INTO THAT FRAMEWORK. NO WORRIES. IT'S TOTALLY FINE. IT HAPPENS TO ALL OF US. SORRY. SORRY. FAULT. I'M NOT GONNA GO TOO MUCH INTO THE FRAMEWORK, BUT WE DO KNOW THAT A LOT OF VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES, OUR COMMUNITY IN OUR CITY, THE BLACK COMMUNITY, OUR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, UM, FOLKS THAT EXPERIENCED JUST HARMFUL IMPACTS FROM BOTH HEALTH POLICY AND POLICING POLICY CAME TOGETHER AND REALLY ASKED FOR CHANGE. UM, OUR PROGRAM WAS ACTUALLY NAMED IN THAT FRAMEWORK AS AN ALTERNATIVE MODEL TO ADDRESSING NONVIOLENT CALLS FOR SERVICE. UM, THIS NATIONALLY IS SOMETIMES CALLED ALTERNATIVE CRISIS RESPONSE, UM, IS A METHOD IN WHICH THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER OPTION TO RESPOND TO 9 1 1 CALLS FOR SERVICE WHEN OTHER NON-POLICE RESOURCES MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE. LOCALLY, WE CALL THAT TEAM COMMUNITY CRISIS RESPONSE. UH, NATIONALLY THERE ARE NAMES LIKE HEARTS CARES. UH, I THINK LA'S IS, UH, MCRS. THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT NAMES. THE COUNTY HAS THEIR OWN A CR PROGRAMS AND THEY'RE ALSO A PART OF SIMILAR PROGRAMS IN ORDER TO SUPPORT FOLKS WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HEALTH CHALLENGES, HEALTH CRISES, UM, WHERE MAYBE AGAIN, THE POLICE OFFICER ISN'T NECESSARILY THE CURRENT BEST RESPONSE. NEXT SLIDE. JUST SOME DEVELOPMENT. UH, WE [00:10:01] STARTED WITH THAT FRAMEWORK. UH, THERE WAS AN ADVISORY GROUP THAT'S FORMED THAT STILL ADVISES THE PROGRAM FOR THE STATE AS WELL AS RELATIONSHIP BUILDING BETWEEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, FIRE DEPARTMENT, OUR OWN HEALTH DEPARTMENT, OUR EMERGENCY COMMS DEPARTMENT, OUR COUNTY PARTNERS, OUR NATIONAL PARTNERS. WE ALSO BROUGHT IN AND WERE, UM, GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK IN A NATIONAL COHORT WITH THE HARVARD GOVERNMENT PERFORMANCE LAB. SO WE HAD FOLKS FROM HARVARD WHO HELPED US PULL OUR DATA OVER TWO, THREE YEARS PRIOR TO THE PROGRAM, STARTING TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS GOING ON, WHETHER THERE WAS A NEED FOR A PROGRAM LIKE THIS, AND HOW IT WOULD FIT IN INTO THE CURRENT EMERGENCY RESPONSE SYSTEM. AFTER THAT, WE TALKED TO THE COMMUNITY. WE TOLD 'EM, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO. AND THEY GAVE US SOME FEEDBACK. WE CHANGED OUR NAME. THEY DIDN'T LIKE ALTERNATIVE. AND ALTERNATIVE WAS KIND OF A MEDIOCRE KIND OF NAME THAT MADE IT SEEM LIKE THIS PROGRAM WASN'T VERY IMPORTANT. SO WE CHANGED IT TO COMMUNITY CRISIS RESPONSE BECAUSE WE WANTED FOLKS TO FEEL LIKE THIS WAS AN IMPORTANT SERVICE WHEN THEY DID RECEIVE IT. UM, AND THEN THAT LEADS US TO NOW ESSENTIALLY OUR PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT AND IMPLEMENTATION INTO OUR PILOT. WE ARE NOW EXITING OUR PILOT TIME, UM, THROUGH OUR LBRA FUNDS AND INTO JUST FULL PROGRAM IMPLEMENTATION. UH, AND HAVE BEEN DOING SO SINCE JULY, 2023. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. UM, JUST SIMPLE OVERVIEW. UM, REALLY WE PUT THIS ON HERE SO FOLKS UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU CALL 9 1 1, YOU GENERALLY GET A CALL TAKER. THEY'LL PICK UP YOUR CALL AND THEY'LL ASK YOU PRETTY SIMPLE QUESTIONS STRAIGHT OFF THE BAT. THEY'LL SAY, IS THIS FIRE, MEDICAL OR AMBULANCE EMERGENCY SERVICES? SOMETHING LIKE THAT. DEPENDING ON WHICH 9 1 1 CENTER PICKS UP, IT MIGHT BE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. WHETHER IT'S CHP, IT'S LONG BEACH, ET CETERA. WE WORK OUT OF LONG BEACH, SO WE USE OUR OWN LONG BEACH ONE. THE ONLY THING THAT CHANGES FOR THE PURPOSES OF COMMUNITY PEOPLE WHO CALL NINE ONE ONE WHO CALL NON-EMERGENCY IS THAT CALL TAKER HAS A THIRD OPTION. IT'S THE SAME EXPERIENCE WHEN YOU CALL FOR SUPPORT. NOBODY ON THE CALLING END HAS TO CHANGE WHAT THEY DO. THE CALL TAKERS TAKE ON THAT ADDITIONAL BURDEN AND DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT A POLICE OFFICER IS STILL THE BEST CHOICE. WHETHER A FIRE EMT IS THE BEST CHOICE, OR WHETHER IT MAY BE A LOWER LEVEL MENTAL HEALTH, PHYSICAL HEALTH SUPPORT WOULD BE THE BETTER CHOICE FOR THE CALL. UM, ESSENTIALLY ADDING ONE MORE PRONG TO THAT TREATMENT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS PHOTOS FROM EARLY ON IN OUR DAYS, WE DON'T QUITE LOOK LIKE 'CAUSE OUR TEAM HAS CHANGED. UM, BUT JUST A QUICK NOD TO OUR ORIGINAL FIVE PERSON TEAM. WE HAVE ONE TEAM THAT OPERATES IN SOUTH AND WEST LONG BEACH WITH THREE MAIN FIELD TEAM MEMBERS. WE HAVE A CRISIS INTERVENTION SPECIALIST WHO IS A LICENSED MENTAL HEALTH EXPERT. UM, FORMALLY THEY WERE A SOCIAL WORKER, BUT REALLY ANYONE WHO IS A LICENSED MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL CAN FILL THAT ROLE. UH, AND THAT PERSON HAS CHANGED. SO WE COULD HIRE ANOTHER PERSON. THE ORIGINAL PERSON WAS UH, AND IS STILL IN THE CITY, BUT WAS A LICENSED SOCIAL WORKER. WE HAVE PUBLIC HEALTH NURSE WHO IS A LICENSED NURSE, A REGISTERED NURSE WHO IS ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME MEDICAL SERVICES IN THE FIELD, BUT REALLY FOCUSES ON HEALTH ASSESSMENTS, MEDICATION ASSESSMENT, NUTRITION MANAGEMENT, THINGS LIKE THAT TO SUPPORT FOLKS WHO MAY BE EXPERIENCING HEALTH CHALLENGES THAT ARE UNDERLYING AND NOT OBVIOUS AT THE TIME THAT THE TEAM ARRIVES. UH, WE DO NOT LET FOLKS JUST WALK AWAY WITHOUT HAVING HEALTH ASSESSMENT. THEY DON'T HAVE TO ENGAGE WITH US, BUT WE WANT TO GIVE FOLKS ANY INFORMATION THEY CAN SO THAT THEY CAN REACH OUT, CONNECT, AND GET THE SERVICES THEY NEED WITH OUR SUPPORT IF THEY LIKE IT. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A PEER NAVIGATOR WHOSE ROLE IS REALLY TO BE THERE TO SPEAK ON LIVED EXPERIENCE. NOT EVERYONE WHO APPROACHES OUR TEAM GETS SERVICES FROM US, WANTS MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT. NOT EVERYBODY WANTS HEALTH SUPPORT. OUR PRE NAVIGATOR IS JUST THERE TO SAY, HEY, YOU'RE A HUMAN. YOU DON'T NEED TO TAKE SUPPORT FROM THESE TWO PEOPLE. BUT IF YOU JUST WANNA TALK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON AND YOU WANT TO MAYBE CONNECT TO SOME THINGS AND GET SOME HELP, I'M HERE TO DO THAT TOO. AND MAYBE IT'S JUST RECONNECTING WITH A SERVICE YOU THOUGHT WAS BAD OR CONNECTING FOR THE FIRST TIME. OR MAYBE YOU JUST NEED SOME, WANNA TALK THROUGH SOME THINGS AND YOU DON'T REALLY WANT TO TALK TO A PSYCHOLOGIST 'CAUSE YOU HAD BAD EXPERIENCES. OUR PEERS CERTIFIED AND THEY'RE THERE TO SPEAK ON THAT PART. THEY'RE NOT TAKING NOTES IN ANY WAY THAT GETS REPORTED TO ANYONE. THEY'RE JUST THERE AS A HUMAN. UH, BUT THEY ARE REALLY, REALLY HELPFUL HUMAN. UH, AND THEN THERE'S MYSELF AND A TEAM SUPERVISOR WHO MANAGES THE ENTIRE TEAM FROM A CLINICAL PERSPECTIVE. UM, THEY ARE A LICENSED PSYCHOLOGIST, UH, AND HE'S THE ONE WHO MAKES SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IS WITHIN THE ETHICAL BOUNDS OF MEDICINE. THAT WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY DOING THINGS TO HARM FOLKS. AND IF SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN IN THE FIELD THAT IS LESS THAN OPTIMAL, THAT WE'RE CONSTANTLY REVIEWING AND WE'RE CONSTANTLY AUDITING OURSELVES TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR FUTURE CALLS OR IMPROVED AND HAVE SUCCESSFUL OUTCOMES. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UH, JUST FOR A GENERAL IMAGE, WE WORK AGAIN SOUTH AND WEST OF LONG BEACH. I PUT A CIRCLE ON IT. IT'S REALLY HARD FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHERE IS WEST LONG BEACH, BECAUSE WHERE YOU ARE ANYWHERE CAN BE WEST OF THAT POINT, . UM, WE USE POLICE DIVISIONS FOR OUR PURPOSES, UM, BECAUSE OUR PROGRAM IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. UM, SO WHEN WE SAY WEST LONG BEACH, WE, THE WEST DIVISION, UH, WHICH IS MOSTLY KIND OF NORTH OF ANAHEIM, WEST OF CHERRY UNTIL YOU GET TO CARSON, BUT NO MORE NORTH AND WARLOW. UH, AND THEN SOUTH LONG BEACH IS PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THAT YOU THINK OF DOWNTOWN, NOT, UH, GOING EAST OF CHERRY. [00:15:01] UM, IT'S STILL KIND OF HARD TO IMAGINE THAT. SO WE ALSO PUT SOME FACILITIES, LIBRARIES, UM, PLACES THAT YOU MIGHT BE FAMILIAR WITH TO KIND OF IDENTIFY WHERE WE MAY BE NEAR. WE RESPOND NOT JUST TO PARKS, TO BUSINESSES, TO SCHOOLS, BUT REALLY ANYWHERE THAT SOMEONE MIGHT BE LOCATED SO LONG AS THERE'S A 9 1 1 FOR SERVICE ATTACHED TO IT. UM, SO IF IT'S A SIDEWALK, IF IT'S THE BEACH, IF IT'S THE LA RIVER, WE WILL ATTEMPT TO MAKE CONTACT AND DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO SUPPORT THE INDIVIDUAL REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY ARE. UH, OUR PILOT HOURS AND HOURS TODAY ARE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 10 TO FIVE. UH, I KNOW THAT CAN BE SOMETIMES UPSETTING FOR FOLKS. THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TIME. THAT WAS BASED ON LIMITED FUNDING THAT WE HAD DURING OUR PILOT PERIOD. WE ARE CURRENTLY AND ACTIVELY SEEKING MORE FUNDING, UH, AS WELL AS APPROVAL FROM OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND FIRE DEPARTMENT PARTNERS TO HAVE ADDITIONAL SERVICE CAPACITY. UM, BECAUSE OUR SERVICE AREA WAS BASED ON USING CONVERSATIONS AND REALLY RESPECTING THE JOBS AND THE WORK THAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE DOING AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT STEPPING TOO FAR WHAT WE'RE CAPABLE OF DOING CURRENTLY. UH, BUT WE ARE ACTIVELY HAVING THIS CONVERSATION THIS MONTH. SO THAT MAY BE CHANGING SHORTLY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. CAN YOU GET THAT TO CAMERA? SORRY. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE HAVE VERY SPECIFIC CALL CODES THAT WE WORK WITH, UH, PD AND EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS THAT WE RESPOND TO. UM, SPECIFICALLY THEY HAVE TO BE 9 1 1 OR NON-EMERGENCY CALLS FOR SERVICE. AND THEY FALL UNDER THESE GENERAL BUCKETS. THEY ARE MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS, MEANING SOMEONE'S EXPERIENCING SYMPTOMS OF MENTAL ILLNESS OR SOMETHING THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE SYMPTOMS OF MENTAL ILLNESS. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT IS, BUT MAYBE A THIRD PARTY SEES IT AND THEY'RE CONCERNED. THEY SEE SOMEONE TALKING TO THEMSELVES, THEY SEE SOMEONE DOING SOMETHING ERRATIC. THERE'S NO FOR SURE DIAGNOSIS GOING ON, BUT WE'LL RESPOND IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THAT SUPPORT. IF SOMEONE'S HAVING THOUGHTS OF DYING OR SUICIDE, WE'LL RESPOND TO CALLS AROUND SUICIDE. UH, AND OUR TEAM IS ABLE TO PROVIDE INTERVENTION ACTIVELY TO SUPPORT FOLKS WHO MAY NEED HOSPITALIZATION. THOUGH WE ARE A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM AND WE DO NOT FORCE PEOPLE TO DO ANYTHING. SO IF SOMEONE DOES NEED TO BE INVOLUNTARILY HOLD, WE WILL NOT BE THE ONES TO RESTRAIN THEM. UM, THAT IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR MET TEAM. SO AN OFFICER AND A CLINICIAN FROM THE MET PROGRAM WILL BE IN THERE TO SUPPORT. WE DO SUPPORT FOLKS WHO ARE POTENTIALLY INTOXICATED, WHETHER THAT BE DRUGS, ALCOHOL, SOMETHING ELSE. UM, IT'S USUALLY DRUGS OR ALCOHOL. UH, WE SUPPORT FOLKS IN THE HEALTH RESPONSE THERE. FOLKS MAY NEED SUPPORT. SOBERING, THEY MAY NEED SOME WATER, SOME HYDRATION. OUR NURSE TAKES A LEAD THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SAFE, THAT THEY'RE OKAY. UH, WE NEED TO ESCALATE THAT TO AN AMBULANCE. WE MIGHT. BUT REALLY WE'RE THERE TO MAKE A FIRST CONNECTION TO GIVE FOLKS THE OPPORTUNITY. IF THEY'RE LOOKING FOR RECOVERY SERVICES, IT'S A FIRST STEP. AND WE MAY BE DOING MULTIPLE FOLLOW UP VISITS IF THEY'RE WILLING AND ENGAGED TO POTENTIALLY SEEK SERVICES, SEEK SUPPORT, UM, SEEK SHELTER SECRETLY, ANYTHING. UH, WE DO A LOT OF WELFARE CHECKS. MORE THAN HALF OF OUR CALLS ARE WELFARE CHECKS. UM, THOSE ARE OUR CLASSIC, LIKE, CAN YOU CHECK ON MY NEIGHBOR? CAN YOU CHECK ON MY GRANDMA? CAN YOU CHECK ON MY COUSIN? WE GET CALLS FROM OUTTA STATE SAYING, HEY, I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THIS PERSON. I'M WORRIED THIS IS THEIR HISTORY. THESE ARE CALLS FOR FOLKS WHO MAY BE EXPERIENCING MENTAL ILLNESS, MAYBE EXPERIENCING HEALTH CHALLENGES, MAYBE EXPERIENCING SOME OTHER FIFTH THING THAT NONE OF US HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT. BUT OUR TEAM IS STILL CAPABLE TO RESPOND. SO IT'S KIND OF OUR CATCHALL FOR A LOT OF CALLS THAT DON'T QUITE FIT MENTAL HEALTH, HOMELESSNESS, QUALITY OF LIFE, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, BUT THEY STILL FIT WITHIN KIND OF A HEALTH JURISDICTION. WE DO THOSE. UH, AND THEN GENERAL DISTURBANCES OFTEN WITH YOUTH, UM, IN PUBLIC SPACES, IF THERE'S FOLKS BEING LOUD, ROWDY, UH, WE'RE THERE TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION POTENTIALLY TO AVOID, UM, ARREST IF IT'S POSSIBLE FOR US TO MAKE A CONNECTION AND CONNECT THEM TO SERVICES OR JUST TO DEESCALATE THE SITUATION. THE SITUATIONS WE GO TO ARE GENERALLY NOT CRIMES, BUT THEY MAY HAVE A PENAL CODE ATTACHED TO THEM. SO WE'RE THERE TO TRY TO PREVENT THINGS THAT MAYBE DON'T NEED TO ESCALATE TO A CRIME TO, UH, ARREST. BUT SOMETIMES THAT DOES HAPPEN. WE DO HAVE EXCLUSIONARY CRITERIA. WE CANNOT GO TO THESE TYPES OF CALLS WHERE THERE IS ACTS OF VIOLENT BEHAVIOR. OUR TEAM IS CIVILIAN. WE DO NOT HAVE RESTRAINTS. WE DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE OR TO ARREST. SO IF THERE'S ACTIVE VIOLENT BEHAVIOR, WE WILL NOT BE GOING TO THAT CALL THAT WILL STILL BE A POLICE OFFICER. WE ARE NOT REPLACING POLICE OFFICERS. UM, IF SOMEONE'S ACTIVELY POSSESSING A WEAPON, AND REALLY WHEN WE SAY POSSESS, WE MEAN LIKE THEY'RE HOLDING IT. THEY'RE FLAUNTING IT, THEY'RE BRANDISHING IT. WE KNOW A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE WEAPONS AND A LOT OF FOLKS IN OUR HOMELESS COMMUNITY AND OUR VETERANS COMMUNITY WILL OWN WEAPONS. IT'S REALLY JUST THE ACT OF CHANCE THAT SOMEONE MIGHT GET HURT. YOU CAN'T GO TO THOSE. UM, IF SOMEBODY IS EXPERIENCING A MEDICAL EMERGENCY, THAT'S GOING TO BE AN AMBULANCE AND WILL ALWAYS BE AN AMBULANCE. WE CAN PROVIDE FIRST AID, WE CAN DO SOME IMMEDIATE CARE IF SOMEONE EXPERIENCES AN EMERGENCY WHILE WE'RE ON SITE. BUT IF THE EMERGENCY HAPPENED BEFORE THE CALL, WE NEED AN EMT THERE ASAP. SO THAT WILL NOT BE OUR CCR TEAM. UH, IF SOMEONE'S AT RISK OF HURTING THEMSELVES OR OTHERS ACTIVELY, THAT'S ALSO STILL GOING TO BE LIKES AND SIRENS BECAUSE THERE IS THAT POTENTIAL LOSS OF LIFE AS WELL AS AN ACT OF CRIME IN PROGRESS. THINK BURGLARIES, UM, THINK SOMEBODY, UH, TRESPASSING [00:20:01] INTO YOUR HOME, UM, THINGS LIKE THAT. OUR TEAM IS NOT PREPARED FOR THAT AND IS NOT THE RIGHT SOURCE OF SUPPORT, UM, THAT WILL STILL GO TO POLICE. OUR CALLS ARE PRIOR PRIMARILY PRIORITY THREE CALLS. SO THEY'RE THE LOWER LEVEL OF CALLS. UM, SO THERE'S LESS RISK INVOLVED, WHICH IS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR A HEALTH RESPONDER, UH, WITH THE BACKUP OF A PD IF NECESSARY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. I HAD MENTIONED THIS, UH, BUT THE BEST WAY TO GET CCRS RESPONSE CURRENTLY IS THROUGH THE NON-EMERGENCY LINE. UM, WE ARE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PD. WE DO NOT CURRENTLY HAVE A SEPARATE PHONE LINE, THOUGH THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE FUTURE HOPE FOR. UM, JUST BASED ON FUNDING AND THE LOGISTICS. WE STARTED WITH THE SYSTEM THAT ALREADY EXISTS. WE SAY NON-EMERGENCY BECAUSE TECHNICALLY WE WANT TO RESERVE 9 1 1 FOR TRUE LIFE OR DEATH EMERGENCIES BECAUSE WE NEED OUR OFFICERS, WE NEED OUR PERSONNEL TO BE ABLE TO GET THERE QUICKLY. IF IT'S NOT LIFE OR DEATH. NON-EMERGENCY GOES TO THE SAME PEOPLE, THE SAME CALL TAKERS PICK IT UP AND THEY CAN ALWAYS CHANGE THE CALL CODE IF THEY DETERMINE ACTUALLY THIS IS AN EMERGENCY, UH, YOU SHOULD HAVE CALLED 9 1 1. IT'S FINE. IT'S THE RIGHT PERSON. THEY'LL JUST DO IT ON THEIR END. SO THERE'S NO WRONG DOOR. IF YOU CHOOSE TO CALL 9 1 1, YOU CAN STILL GET US. DISPATCH WILL JUST BE A LITTLE BIT GRUMPY ABOUT IT, AND THAT'S OKAY. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN PRIORITIES, Y'ALL HAVE OUR OWN. UM, AND WE GENERALLY TELL FOLKS TO USE PLAIN LANGUAGE WHEN ASKING FOR THE CCR TEAM. UM, THIS CAN BE TRICKY FOR SOME FOLKS WHO WORK IN HEALTHCARE OR WORK IN VERY HIGHLY ESCALATED FACILITIES, UM, WHERE SOMETIMES YOU MIGHT FEEL LIKE YOU NEED TO PROVE TO PD, PROVE TO 9 1 1 THAT THIS IS A TRUE EMERGENCY. SO YOU MIGHT SAY WORDS LIKE THE PERSON'S GONNA DIE. UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE KILLING THEMSELVES, THEY'RE ACTIVELY SUICIDAL, ALL VALID WORDS, BUT THAT MIGHT MAKE A DISPATCHER CONCERN THAT IT'S TOO UNSAFE FOR OUR TEAM. SO WE JUST ASK THAT YOU USE ALL OBSERVATIONAL DESCRIPTIVE LANGUAGE. IF SOMEONE'S HAVING A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS AND ALL YOU KNOW IS THAT THEY'RE SCREAMING AT THE SKY AND THROWING CANS IN THE STREET AT CARS, SAY THAT, THAT'S FINE. OUR TEAM CAN RESPOND TO THAT. BUT IF SOMEONE WERE TO SAY LIKE, OH, I THINK THIS PERSON'S GONNA DIE BECAUSE THE CAR'S GONNA HIT THEM, THEY'RE GONNA SEND A POLICE OFFICER OR AN AMBULANCE BECAUSE OF THAT CONCERN FOR LOSS OF LIFE, THERE'S NO WRONG WAY TO REQUEST. UH, WE JUST SAY WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, IS THE BEST THING AND DON'T ADD MORE INFORMATION OR DON'T GUESS. UH, OTHERWISE YOU MIGHT GET A POLICE OFFICER, WHICH IS TOTALLY FINE. IT MIGHT JUST TAKE US LONGER TO GET THERE IF THEY SEND A SECOND. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. UM, IN GENERAL, UH, THE CALL TAKER WILL TAKE YOUR INFORMATION AND CCR RESPONDS WITHIN ABOUT HALF AN HOUR, OFTEN CLOSE TO 20 MINUTES DEPENDING ON HOW CLOSE WE ARE TO THE CALL. UM, RIGHT NOW WE ONLY HAVE THAT ONE TEAM. SO WE HAVE TO TRAVERSE THE HALF OF THE CITY WE'RE IN. BUT ON AVERAGE ABOUT 20 MINUTES. SOMETIMES IT'S FIVE, SOMETIMES IT'S AN HOUR IF IT'S LIKE RIGHT AT PEAK RUSH HOUR. UM, SO KEEP THAT IN MIND IF YOU'RE REACHING OUT FOR CCR, UH, UNTIL WE HAVE ADDITIONAL TEAMS, THAT IS JUST THE REALITY THAT WE CURRENTLY ARE IN. UH, IF THE CALL IS NOT ELIGIBLE, YOU WILL STILL GET A, A RESPONSE. A POLICE OFFICER, A CSA, ANOTHER UNIT THAT'S APPROPRIATE WILL ALWAYS RESPOND EVEN IF IT'S OUTSIDE OF YOUR SERVICE HOURS OR SERVICE TIME. UM, GENERALLY WE JUST TRY TO TELL FOLKS LIKE WE WILL BE AVAILABLE MOST DAYS, BUT IT'S ALSO POSSIBLE THAT OUR TEAM IS ACTIVELY ON A CALL. AND IF WE'RE ACTIVELY ON A CALL AND YOUR CALL IS ALSO URGENT PD DISPATCH FIRE, THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE THEIR OWN DECISION TO MAKE SURE THAT HELP STILL ARRIVES. UH, SO SOMETIMES THE DISPATCHER MAY SAY, WE'RE SENDING THE CRISIS TEAM AND THE POLICE WILL SHOW UP AND VICE VERSA. THEY MAY SAY, PD TEAM IS SHOWING UP, BUT OUR TEAM SHOWS UP BASED ON HAVING TO ALLOCATE RESOURCES IN A SHORT TIME PERIOD. NEXT SLIDE. I'M GONNA STOP FOR A SECOND. UH, WE HAVE DATA THAT WE SHARE ACTIVELY AND IF YOU'LL WANT TO, UM, USE YOUR PHONE, SCAN A QR CODE OR LOG ON, FEEL FREE TO FOLLOW WITH ME. UM, I WILL ADMIT THAT THIS DATA IS NOW A MONTH OLD BECAUSE THIS DATA WAS PREPARED FOR OUR LAST MEETING. UM, BUT IT'S FAIRLY ACCURATE STILL. THERE'S JUST A FEW CHANGES IN THE DATA. SO IF YOU DO FOLLOW, YOU MAY SEE THE NUMBERS ARE HIGHER. NOW, UM, I PROMISE YOU THE THING ON THE WEBSITE IS ACCURATE. THIS IS JUST A MONTH BEHIND NOW. NEXT SLIDE. AT THE TIME OF PULLING THIS, WE WERE AT ABOUT 5 88 CALLS FOR SERVICE. NOW WE'RE CLOSER TO SIX 30, UM, CLOSER TO 700. WE INCLUDE ADDITIONAL SUPPORTS THAT THE TEAM DOES OUTSIDE OF THE REGULAR PD RESPONSE. UM, 95% OF ALL OF OUR CALLS ARE PD CALLS FOR SERVICE. MEANING THAT THEY ORIGINALLY CAME IN THROUGH 9 1 1, UM, AND THEY'RE IN THE KINDA PD CATEGORY. WE DON'T ANSWER FIRE CALLS, WE ANSWER POLICE CALLS. UH, ABOUT 5% OF OUR CALLS ARE SELF-INITIATED, MEANING THAT SOMEONE ELSE REACHED OUT TO US DIRECTLY. SOMETIMES WE'RE IN THE FIELD AND SOMEONE JUST WAVES US DOWN. SOMETIMES WE GET, UH, CONNECTIONS THROUGH MEETINGS AND COMMISSIONS AND PLACES LIKE THIS WHERE SOMEONE'S LIKE, HEY, I KNOW SOMEONE THAT'S IN CRISIS RIGHT NOW. ARE YOU FREE? AND IF WE ARE FREE, WE WILL TRY TO MAKE OURSELVES AVAILABLE. WE JUST TELL FOLKS THAT WE CAN'T ALWAYS BE AVAILABLE THAT WAY. IF WE'RE ACTIVELY ON A CALL, WE CAN'T STEP AWAY FROM A CALL [00:25:01] UNTIL THAT'S RESOLVED. BUT OCCASIONALLY WE ARE ABLE TO DO THAT IN SELF DISPATCH, SELF INITIATE. UM, AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT TAKES US ABOUT 20 MINUTES TO GET TO ANY CALL IN THE CITY. AND ON AVERAGE, WE'RE THERE FOR ABOUT 24 MINUTES. THAT'S A MEDIAN THOUGH. SO ABOUT 50% OF OUR CALLS ARE MUCH HIGHER THAN THAT AND 50% ARE MUCH LOWER. OUR LOWEST CALL HAS BEEN LIKE TWO MINUTES LONG, WHICH IS, WE ARRIVE, WE SAY HI, WE TRY TO INTRODUCE OURSELF, SOMEONE FLIPS US OFF, YELLS AT US AND WALKS AWAY. AND WE'RE, WE ARE OKAY WITH THAT. IT HAPPENS. NOT EVERYBODY WANTS OUR SUPPORT. AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE CALLED THEY, THE CALL IS ON THEIR BEHALF AND THEY WERE NOT PART OF THE CONVERSATION. SO THEY DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE THERE. UH, AND THAT HAPPENS TO EVERYONE. IT HAPPENS TO BD, IT HAPPENS TO FIRE FOLKS. DON'T LET THEM IN THE HOUSE. WE CAN'T MAKE THE CALL HAPPEN. UM, BUT WE'VE ALSO BEEN IN THE FIELD FOR CALLS AFTER LIKE THREE, FOUR HOURS LONG WHERE WE'VE TAKEN FOLKS TO THE VA, WE'VE TAKEN PEOPLE TO THE BUCK. UH, WE'VE STAYED THROUGH THE ADMITTING PROCESS JUST TO GIVE SOMEONE THAT SENSE OF FAMILIARITY SO THAT WE DON'T JUST DROP 'EM OFF AND SAY, OKAY, GOOD LUCK. UH, WE STAY AS LONG AS WE NEED TO IN ORDER FOR THAT PERSON TO RECEIVE THE CARE THEY NEED OR UNTIL THEY'RE WILLING TO DISENGAGE WITH US. UM, THOUGH WE WILL NOT GO INTO THE EMERGENCY ROOM AT THAT POINT. WE DO HAVE TO WALK AWAY. WE'RE NOT ABLE TO, TO JUST WALK IN THERE WHENEVER HE WANTS. THAT NEXT SLIDE, WE RESPOND TO EVERY CALL THAT WE'RE GIVEN. A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THEM ARE RESOLVED WITH ABOUT HALF OF THEM BEING RESPONDED AND SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED. IN THE MOMENTS AT THE SCENE WHERE THE CALL WAS ORIGINALLY TAKEN, A MEETING THAT WE DRIVE UP IN OUR VAN, WE SAY HELLO, WE TALK TO THEM, WE DO OUR HEALTH ASSESSMENTS. WE GIVE OUT SOME RESOURCES, SUPPLIES. WE MAKE CONNECTIONS. AND THE PERSON'S NEEDS ARE MET IN THAT CALL ALONE, THAT'S NOT THE CASE FOR EVERYBODY. ABOUT 16% HAVE SOME SORT OF OTHER FOLLOW UP, MEANING THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO COME BACK ANOTHER DAY, COME BACK THE SAME DAY LATER ON, OR WE MAY NEED TO TRANSPORT THEM TO ANOTHER PLACE BECAUSE THEY ARE WELL CONNECTED, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET THERE. OR JUST WHAT'S GOING ON IS TOO COMPLICATED. IT'D BE A LOT EASIER IF WE TOOK THAT OFF THEIR PLATE AND GOT THEM TO THE PLACE THEY NEEDED TO. UM, SO WE TRANSPORT FOLKS SO LONG AS IT'S RELATIVELY CLOSE TO LONG BEACH AND RELATED TO THE CRISIS. WE UNFORTUNATELY DON'T GO TO DOWNTOWN LA A LOT OF FOLKS ASK US TO DO THAT. THAT'S A LITTLE TOO FAR. WE GO OUTTA SERVICE FOR THE ENTIRE DAY AND WE CAN'T TAKE ANY MORE CALLS. UM, BUT WE CAN GO OUTSIDE THE CITY. WE SOMETIMES TAKE FOLKS TO LIKE WILMINGTON, SAN PEDRO, IF THERE'S A SPECIFIC SERVICE THAT THEY'RE ALREADY ACCESSING THAT IS LOCATED THERE. ESPECIALLY HOUSING RELATED SERVICES AREN'T ALWAYS NEATLY IN OUR CITY BOUNDARIES. SO WE WILL LEAVE THE CITY WHEN IT IS APPROPRIATE AND THERE IS A SERVICE THAT WE CAN WARMLY HAND OFF, MEANING WE KNOW THERE'S A PROVIDER. WE KNOW THE SERVICE IS REAL, BUT WE'RE NOT JUST DROPPING THEM OFF ON THE CITY BORDER. UM, 17% OF FOLKS JUST SAY NO TO US. UM, WHEN WE SEE MEANS, SAY NO. WE STILL ENGAGE. WE TRY, WE ASK QUESTIONS MULTIPLE TIMES. AND AFTER THE THIRD TIME PEOPLE SAY, HEY, CAN YOU LEAVE? YOU'RE BOTHERING ME. I DIDN'T ASK FOR THIS. I WANT TO TALK TO SOMEONE ELSE. WE WILL ALWAYS RESPECT THAT WE ARE A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM. WE DO NOT FORCE OURSELVES INTO PEOPLE'S HOMES, INTO PEOPLE'S LIVES. AND IF THEY DON'T WANT THE SUPPORT FROM US, WE WILL LIVE OUR, LEAVE OUR INFORMATION AND LET THEM KNOW HOW TO CONTACT US OR HOW TO CONTACT OTHER SUPPORTS AND LEAVE IT BE. UM, AND IF WE GET CALLED OUT AGAIN, WE'LL CONTINUE TO ATTEMPT TO MAKE CONTACT. AND ABOUT 6% OF OUR CALLS ARE UPGRADED, MEANING THAT 6% OF THAT 600 SOME ODD CALLS END UP EATING A FIRE OR PD RESPONSE. MOST OF THEM ARE FIRE RESPONSES BECAUSE OF A CONCERN AROUND MEDICAL HEALTH. WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS WHO HAVE UNDERLYING MEDICAL NEEDS. AND SOMETIMES OUR NURSE WHEN DOING THE HEALTH ASSESSMENT REALIZES THAT THE PERSON'S ACTUALLY EXPERIENCING A MEDICAL EMERGENCY THAT WAS NOT KNOWN. UM, AND WE HAVE TO CALL FOR AN AMBULANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET SEEN. OFTENTIMES IT'S LIKE HEAD INJURIES OR UNTREATED WOUNDS. UM, SO WE WILL CALL FOR FIRE TO SEND AN AMBULANCE. UM, SOMETIMES IT IS POLICE SERVICES AND OFTEN THAT'S BECAUSE SOMEBODY AT THE SCENE IS SAYING, NO, I WANT TO TALK TO AN OFFICER. AND WE RESPECT THAT OUR OFFICERS ARE OUR PARTNERS. WE WORK HAND IN HAND THOUGH WE'RE NEVER THERE. AT THE SAME TIME, WE'LL LEAVE. THE OFFICER WILL ARRIVE. WE'LL NEVER BE AT THE SCENE WITH THE OFFICER JUST TO MAKE A CLEAR DISTINCTION THAT OUR PROGRAMS ARE DIFFERENT EVEN THOUGH WE DO TECHNICALLY WORK KIND OF TOGETHER IN MANY WAYS. NEXT SLIDE. UM, JUST SOME BASIC STAFF. THERE'S MORE ON THE DASHBOARD, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO GO TOO FAR. WE HAVE ABOUT A 50 50 SPLIT IN TERMS OF GENDER RIGHT NOW. IT'S A LITTLE BIT HEAVIER FOR MEN. UH, WE SEE MORE MEN THAN WOMEN. UH, BUT THIS FLUCTUATES FROM MONTH TO MONTH AND IT GETS CLOSER ON ONE EDGE TO THE OTHER. UM, THE DATA ON THE WEBSITE WILL SAY THAT THERE'S 16% VETERANS, BUT WE DESEGREGATE THE DATA AND FO UP ABOUT 5% OF THE FOLKS WE CAN, THAT WE SERVE ACTIVELY IDENTIFIED AS VETERANS. UM, A LOT OF OUR DATA HAS UNKNOWNS. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE TELLING US ABOUT THEIR HISTORY. THEY'RE WORRIED THAT THIS MIGHT GO SOMEWHERE. THIS MIGHT GO TO THEIR SERVICES. IT MIGHT, IT MIGHT IMPACT WHETHER THEY CAN GET BENEFITS. SO THEY DON'T ALWAYS TELL US. IT'S OFTEN AFTER THE SECOND OR THIRD VISIT THAT FOLKS WILL GIVE US MORE INFORMATION ONCE WE BUILD SOME RAPPORT. UM, BUT WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE THAT WE ARE SERVING THAN WE HAVE INFORMATION FOR. UM, BUT WE DO KNOW, AND WE HAVE REACHED OUT SPECIFICALLY TO BRING FOLKS TO THE VA AND [00:30:01] BRING FOLKS TO VETERAN SERVING, UH, SERVICES. UM, THEY OFTEN JUST WON'T TELL US THEY'RE VETERANS, BUT THEY'LL SAY, OH, I NEED TO GO TO THE VA. AND WE, WE MAKE THE CONNECTION. WE KNOW, UH, WE DON'T FORCE PEOPLE TO GIVE US THE DATA. THEY DON'T WANT TO GIVE IT TO US. THERE'S DISTRUST IN GOVERNMENT AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE THAT TRUST HAPPEN BY FORCING IT. SO WE'RE OKAY NOT HAVING THE DATA ALL THE TIME. UH, ABOUT 79% OF FOLKS ACCEPT PHYSICAL RESOURCES FROM US. MEANING THEY NEED FOOD, THEY NEED WATER, THEY NEED CLOTHING, THEY NEED SOMETHING TO DO WITH SHELTER. SOMETIMES IT'S LIKE NARCAN OR THINGS THAT THEY NEED IN THEIR ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE EXPERIENCING KIND OF CHAOTIC, UNCOMFORTABLE SITUATIONS THAT NEED ADDITIONAL SUPPORTS. UH, WE'LL GIVE THOSE OUT AS LONG AS WE HAVE 'EM AND THEY'RE FREE FOR ANYBODY WHO'S AT A CALL FOR SERVICE. UM, THERE'S NO CHARGE FOR ANYTHING THAT WE DO. UH, AND ABOUT 34% OF FOLKS ACCEPT A HANDOFF OR A WARM REFERRAL, MEANING THAT WE MAKE THE CONNECTION AND OUR TEAM WILL ACTIVELY MAKE SURE THAT THAT OTHER SIDE OF THE SERVICE, THE CASE MANAGER, THE INTAKE OFFICER, WHOEVER IT IS, THERE ARE LIKE DIRECT SERVICE TO SERVICE CONVERSATIONS AND THAT WE'RE NOT JUST GIVING SOMEONE A FLYER AND HOPING FOR THE BEST. UM, THE ONLY TIME WE HAND A FLYER IS IF SOMEONE DECLINE SERVICES BECAUSE WE CAN'T FORCE THEM TO TALK TO US. UH, BUT EVERY OTHER TIME WE ARE ACTIVELY MAKING CALLS. OUR TEAM'S GETTING CALLS ON OFF HOURS AND THEY'RE ACTIVELY MAKING SURE THAT FOLKS' INFORMATION AND THEIR SERVICES ARE HAPPENING. AND IF THEY DON'T HAPPEN, WE DO ATTEMPT TO DO FOLLOW UPS ADDITIONALLY, AS LONG AS WE CAN FIND THEM. NEXT SLIDE. AND THIS IS MORE HIGH LEVEL DATA. I MENTIONED THIS ALREADY. MOST OF OUR CALLS ARE WELLNESS CHECKS, BUT WE DO GET A LOT OF INTOXICATION AND MENTAL HEALTH CALLS. A LOT OF THE MENTAL HEALTH CALLS ARE WRAPPED INTO WELLNESS CHECKS. MEANING THERE WAS ENOUGH INFORMATION FOR A DISPATCHER TO KNOW 100% IT WAS MENTAL HEALTH, BUT THEY FELT LIKE IT PROBABLY WAS. SO THEY'LL SOMETIMES USE WELLNESS CHECKS TO ALSO INCLUDE MENTAL HEALTH CALLS. NOW, UM, A LOT OF THE RESOURCES WE GIVE ARE FOOD AND WATER RELATED. THERE'S A LOT OF FOOD INSECURITY. A LOT OF FOLKS ARE HUNGRY WHEN WE SEE 'EM. UH, WE WILL CONNECT THEM TO THOSE SERVICES TO GET ACTIVE MEALS, BUT OFTENTIMES JUST IN THAT MOMENT THEY'LL SAY, I CAN'T TALK TO YOU. I'M STARVING. SO WE'LL GIVE THEM WHAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE WATER, WE HAVE JUICE, WE HAVE PROTEIN DRINKS AND PROTEIN BARS. IT'S NOT A FULL MEAL, BUT IT'S ENOUGH FOR FOLKS TO AT LEAST HAVE SOMETHING IN THAT MOMENT FOR US TO MAKE THE CONNECTION FOR THEM TO HAVE A HOT, WARM MEAL POTENTIALLY SOON IN THE FUTURE. UM, AND THEN MOST OF OUR CALLS ARE ACTUALLY HOMELESSNESS RELATED, WHICH IS IN LINE WITH THEIR HOMELESSNESS CRISIS. A LOT OF FOLKS, EVEN IF THEY'RE MENTAL HEALTH CALL OR THEY'RE ANOTHER TYPE OF CALL, THEY ARE EXPERIENCING SOME LEVEL OF HOMELESSNESS. EITHER THEY'RE COMPLETELY UNHOUSED OR I'VE EXPERIENCED ON AND OFF HOMELESSNESS RECENTLY WITH RECOVERY SERVICES AND MEDICAL SERVICES. COMING NEXT, NEXT SLIDE. UH, AND I'M GETTING TO THE END HERE SO I CAN TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS IN A SECOND. THIS WAS AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THE TIMES, UM, RECENTLY THAT WE HAD AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WE BELIEVED TO BE A VETERAN. UH, THEY WERE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AND WERE TELLING US ABOUT THOUGHTS OF SUICIDE, THOUGHTS OF DYING. UM, DURING THAT INTERACTION, THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS SHARED THAT THEY WERE A VETERAN AND THAT THEY HAD PREVIOUSLY RECEIVED VA SERVICES. UM, SO AS PART OF SUPPORTING THAT COMMUNITY MEMBER, WE JUST FACILITATED THAT TRANSPORT AND WARM HAND OFF TO THE VA. THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEY HAD URGENT CARE AT THE VA FOR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES. UM, SO WE INFORMED 'EM LIKE, ACTUALLY THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN HELP DO. AND WE STAYED WITH THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS. WE HAD TO GO TO MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS, WHICH WAS CONFUSING, BUT WE STAYED THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT TRANSLATION OF INFORMATION WAS POSSIBLE AND THAT THEY DIDN'T JUST FEEL LIKE THEY WERE LEFT ALONE. UH, THAT PERSON ALSO HADN'T BEEN TO THE VA IN LONG BEACH. THEY WERE IN THE VA SOMEWHERE ON THE EAST COAST. I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT STATE. UH, SO THEY NEVER ACTUALLY CONNECTED THE SERVICES HERE AND THEY JUST DIDN'T KNOW AND DIDN'T HAVE THAT TIME AND DIDN'T HAVE THE RESOURCE TO DO IT. SO WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE THAT POSSIBLE AND HAVE 'EM SEEK THAT PSYCHOLOGICAL URGENT CARE ALL VOLUNTARY. IF THEY WANTED TO LEAVE, THEY COULD HAVE LEFT AT ANY TIME. UH, AND AT ONE POINT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE 'CAUSE THEY WANTED TO SMOKE CIGARETTES AND WE COULDN'T DO THAT IN THE VAN. SO MM-HMM. WE ALLOW SOME FLEXIBILITY 'CAUSE PEOPLE LIVES ARE NOT STRICTLY POSSIBLE WITHIN THE CONFINES OF OUR PROGRAM. UM, BUT AS LONG AS FOLKS ARE WILLING AND WANT THAT SERVICE, WE'LL BE THERE FOR THEM AS LONG AS WE CAN. UH, NEXT SLIDE. I BELIEVE THAT'S THE LAST ONE I SAID A LOT. AND I'D LOVE TO GIVE YOU ALL ANY OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE CONCERNS, THOUGHTS, INTERESTS OR IDEAS. I AM THE MAIN CONTACT. UM, THOUGH THERE ARE VARIOUS PEOPLE ON OUR TEAM THAT COULD ALSO CONTACT, WE WOULD LOVE TO SUPPORT YOU. WE HAVE A QUESTION. YES. YEAH. THIS, THIS WEEK, LIKE, UH, EVERY GRAND GRAND PRIX WEEK, THE HOMELESS FROM DOWNTOWN IN THE EAST VILLAGE HAVE DISAPPEARED. MM-HMM . WHERE ARE THEY? GOOD QUESTION. UH, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY ARE. PEOPLE DO GET CLEARED OUT, ESPECIALLY AROUND EVENTS LIKE THE GRAND PRIX FESTIVALS AT PARKS, ET CETERA. UM, WE FIND THAT THEY JUST MOVE TO OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY, UH, A LOT ON THEIR, ON, ON ACCORD. NO, NO. OFTEN TIMES THEY'RE CLEARED OUT, UM, IN LIKE ACTUAL COORDINATED EFFORTS WITH HOMELESS SERVICES AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AROUND THE QUALITY OF LIFE TEAMS. UM, SO THEY ARE CLEARED OUT, BUT WHERE THEY LAND REALLY DEPENDS ON WHETHER THEY REACHED OUT OR THEY [00:35:01] CONNECTED TO THE SERVICES THAT HOMELESS SERVICES PROVIDES. OR IF THEY SAID SCREW YOU AND WALKED AWAY, UM, PEOPLE TAKE THOSE SERVICES AND DON'T, BECAUSE OF EXPERIENCES, WE DON'T PARTICIPATE IN THOSE CLEANUPS. UM, THAT'S THE HOMELESS SERVICES PROGRAM. THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. UM, WITH THE VA, WHEN YOU DO THE, UM, THE HANDOFF FOR SAY, UM, VETERANS YEAH. DO YOU HAVE A, IS THERE A, UM, A PARTICULAR CONTACT THAT YOU WOULD, UM, DO YOU HAVE A CONTACT AT THE VA? SOMEBODY THAT YOU ARE, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S CONSISTENT AND I'M THINKING LIKE IF YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, REPEAT PEOPLE THAT YOU PICKED UP BEFORE, SO NOW IT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, A CONTINUATION SAY, MAY MAYBE A DEEP DIVE INTO THAT CARE SUPPORT FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I'M THE WRONG PERSON TO ASK. I'M SORRY I'M NOT THE FIELD PERSON, BUT THE ANSWER IS YES. OKAY. I DON'T REMEMBER WHO THE NEW PERSON IS BECAUSE I KNOW SOME PEOPLE HAVE CHANGED, BUT WE'VE WORKED WITH, UM, THEIR VA FOLKS. UM, WE WORKED WITH FOLKS THAT, I FORGET WHAT IT'S CALLED. THEY HAVE LIKE A, AT THE CENTER RESOURCE CENTER THERE, WE'VE WORKED WITH, UH, SPECIFIC FOLKS TO TRAIN US. MM-HMM . OUR CLINICAL TEAM SUPERVISOR IS THE ONE WHO MANAGES THOSE RELATIONSHIPS. YEAH. UH, BECAUSE HE'S THE ONE WHO'S ACTUALLY MENTAL HEALTH CERTIFIED. MM-HMM . SO WHEN THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT CLIENT CASE RECORDS, I DON'T GET INTO THAT CONVERSATION. I AM NOT A THERAPIST, I'M NOT A CLINICIAN. I DO NOT HAVE THAT MEDICAL BACKING. SO I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY IN THAT CONVERSATION. YEAH. BUT THE ANSWER IS YES. UM, AND OUR TEAM DOES MAKE ACTIVE CONNECTIONS TO THE MORE COMMON SERVICE PROVIDERS. SO WE HAVE CONTACTS AT MEMORIAL, AT COLLEGE, AT THE VA, AT THE BUCK, UM, AND THE VARIOUS LIKE COMMON PROVIDERS THAT FOLKS ARE MORE LIKELY TO REACH OUT TO FOR HOMELESS SERVICES. YEAH. UM, BUT UNFORTUNATELY I, I WOULDN'T KNOW THE NAME. YEAH. IF YOU COULD FIND THAT OUT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. SO WE COULD ABSOLUTELY. UM, SO WE CAN MAKE THE CONNECTION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, THAT THOSE SUPPORTS, THOSE THAT ARE PROVIDING VETERAN SUPPORT. SO WE KIND OF IDENTIFY AND HELP CONNECT ALL THE, ALL THE RESOURCES AND THE OUTREACH THAT BEING DONE, THE VETERANS. AND MY SECOND QUESTION WOULD BE, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE HARVARD GOVERNMENT REPORT. YES. UM, THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND, UM, SOME OF THE TAKE TAKEAWAYS WITH THAT. HOW DID YOU, HOW DID YOU, YOUR TEAM IMPLEMENT THAT INTO THE CITY OF LONG BEACH? YEAH, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO THE GOVERNMENT PERFORMANCE LAB, UM, JUST AS CONTEXT, THEY'RE AN ORGANIZATION OUT OF HARVARD THAT WORKS WITH MANY PROGRAMS JUST THROUGHOUT THE NATION. THEY HAVE A SPECIFIC, A NINER COHORT THAT'S ALTERNATIVE 9 1 1 EMERGENCY RESPONSE THAT WORKS WITH, UM, JURISDICTIONS NATIONWIDE. UM, THEY HELP SUPPORT SOME OF THE BIGGER PROGRAMS LIKE OURS IN DURHAM, NORTH CAROLINA, AND PORTLAND. UM, THERE'S A ONE, A NEW ONE IN CAMBRIDGE, MASSACHUSETTS. THEY'RE CURRENTLY HELPING LAC, UM, PUT ON THEIR, UH, OWN, UM, AS WELL AS SOME OF OTHER, THERE'S A LOT OF COHORTS, UH, IN THEIR REPORT AND THEIR PROCESS. SO WHAT THEY DID IS THEY TOOK TWO YEARS OF DISPATCH DATA, UH, AND THEY ANALYZED IT FOR THE TYPES OF CALLS AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY'D BE APPROPRIATE FOR A HEALTH RESPONDER. UH, AND THEY COMPARED THAT WITH OTHER JURISDICTIONS SPECIFICALLY IN SIMILAR LOCALES. SO THEY HAVE SIMILAR POPULATION MAKEUP. UH, AND THEN THEY TOOK THAT DATA AND SAID, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT IS POSSIBLE BASED ON OUR DATA, UM, WHEN WE NEED TO GO OUT ON THE CALL, WHAT KIND OF CALL CODES WE NEED TO TAKE. UM, AS WELL AS WHAT SOME OF THE TRAINING REQUIREMENTS WILL BE IN ORDER TO HAVE A TEAM BE SUITABLY TRAINED, EDUCATED TO, ABLE TO TAKE ON THE NON POLICING, BUT POLICE ADJACENT ELEMENTS THAT COME TO THIS CALL. UH, AND FOR THE MOST PART, THEY SUPPORT US WITH THE POLICY ELEMENTS TOO. UM, OUR CITY IS VERY UNIQUE, AS YOU MAY KNOW IN MANY WAYS. UH, WE ARE ONE OF THE ONLY CITIES, ONE OF LIKE THREE IN THE STATE THAT HAVE A SEPARATE HEALTH DEPARTMENT FROM THEIR COUNTY, WHICH MEANT THAT WE HAD A LOT OF POLICY CHA CHALLENGES THAT OTHER CITIES IN CALIFORNIA AND OTHER CITIES NATIONWIDE JUST DIDN'T HAVE. UM, SO THEY HELPED US KIND OF OVERCOME SOME OF THE ISSUES WITH POLICE DATA SHARING. UH, WE DON'T HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO POLICE DATA AND WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO, C DATA IS PROTECTED UNDER COLLECTS, WHICH IS A STATE, UH, REGULATION. UM, SO WE HAD TO FIND WORKAROUNDS AND MOUS TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH POLICE DEPARTMENT AND NOT BE ON RADIOS WHILE STILL GETTING ALL THE DATA AND INFORMATION WE NEED TO RESPOND. SO THEY ORGANIZED AND DID ALL OF THAT WORK AND WE SHOWED UP, CREATED THE RELATIONSHIPS. OKAY. THANK YOU. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. CHAIR, SIR. GREAT QUESTIONS. YEAH, I, I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS. FIRST OF ALL, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU REALLY GO THROUGH THE DISPATCHER. YES. THEY'RE GOING TO. SO ARE THEY TRAINED TO, YOU KNOW, ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS? I, I ASSUME DOES IT HAVE TO BE THE DISPATCHER? 'CAUSE AND THEN HOW HAS THIS PROGRAM BEEN BROUGHT OUT IN THE CITY? ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I GO TO A NUMBER OF MEETINGS AND I'VE NEVER SEEN THE PROGRAM BEFORE. YEP. SO I'M KIND OF SURPRISED THAT, THAT YOU'VE GONE THAT MANY CALLS AND EVERYTHING WITHOUT ME HEARING EVEN ABOUT THE YEAH. THIS PROGRAM. SO HOW DO YOU, HOW IT'S TRUE. I YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M ASKING? YEAH. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS THING GOT OUT AND HOW YOU SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT IT EVEN [00:40:01] MORE. YEAH. OKAY. SO FOR THE FIRST QUESTION, YES. SO THE DISPATCHERS DO RECEIVE, THEY RECEIVE THEIR OWN INTERNAL TRAINING THROUGH THE CITY OF LONG BEACH. SO THEY HAVE THEIR OWN PROCESS TO GET FOLKS FROM TRAINING STAGE TO FULLY TRAIN SIX ABOUT A YEAR OR SO. UH, IN THAT PROCESS, THEY DO HAVE EDUCATION IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND OUR PROGRAM AND WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE TO GIVE US A CALL VERSUS A POLICE OFFICER. THEY'RE VERY CONSERVATIVE WITH THAT APPROACH. THEY'RE NOT GIVING US CALLS WILLY-NILLY. UH, IF WE WERE TO GO BACK TO THE DATA, WE ACTUALLY ONLY ACQUIRE ABOUT 75% OF ALL QUOTE UNQUOTE ELIGIBLE CALLS. MEANING THAT THEY WERE TAGGED TECHNICALLY IN A WAY THAT OUR PROGRAM COULD RESPOND. BUT THE DISPATCHERS THROUGH THEIR TRAINING AND THEIR OWN INTERNAL PROTOCOL, WHICH I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF EYES ON, UH, BUT WE DO HAVE, UM, ROUTINE COMMUNICATION WITH THEIR SUPERVISORS AND WITH REGGIE. UM, THEY IDENTIFY ABOUT 75% OF THE CALLS TO ACTUALLY BE SAFE FOR THE PROGRAM. UM, SO THEY DON'T, IT'S NEVER AUTOMATIC. IT'S ALWAYS A DISPATCHER USING THEIR JUDGMENT AND USING THEIR EXPERTISE TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER OR NOT IT'S EVEN APPROPRIATE TO SEND A NON-POLICE PERSONNEL UNIT TO COME THERE. UM, SO THAT TRAINING IS ALL INSIDE THE, INSIDE THE PREP. SO IT'S NOT OUR PROCESS FOR THE SECOND QUESTION IN TERMS OF HOW DO WE GET THIS FAR WITHOUT MAKING A BIGGER BUZZ? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I TRY TO MAKE AS BIG A BUZZ AS I CAN. UM, BUT I CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH BEING INSIDE THE CITY. UM, WE COME TO MEETINGS LIKE THIS, COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND WE TALK ABOUT THE PROGRAM, BUT REALLY OUR PROGRAM IS LIVING INSIDE OF THE POLICE 9 1 1 STRUCTURE. SO IT'S ALSO CHALLENGING FOR US TO DO LIKE MARKETING OR REALLY BIG ADVERTISEMENTS ON IT BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU NEED TO REACH OUT TO 9 1 1 1. UH, WHICH CAN BE KIND OF COMPLICATED EXPERIENCES FOR FOLKS. SOME PEOPLE HAVE REALLY GOOD EXPERIENCES GETTING A POLICE RESPONSE. SOME PEOPLE, AS SOON AS WE SAY 9 1 1, THEY SAY, I'M NEVER GONNA CALL IT, I HAD A BAD EXPERIENCE. I'M A PROVIDER. I DON'T WANT MY PEOPLE TO GET ARRESTED, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. SO WE'VE HAD KIND OF A HIT A WALL IN TERMS OF HOW BIG WE CAN MAKE OUR PROGRAM KNOWN IN KIND OF THE PUBLIC SPHERE. SO A LOT OF IT IS CONVERSATIONS LIKE THIS, UM, WITH OUR PARTNERS WITH, UH, LOCAL OTHER JURISDICTIONS AND REALLY JUST SPREADING THE WORD IN SPACES WHERE THERE ARE COMMUNITIES, THERE'S LEADERSHIP AND THERE'S FOLKS THAT ARE CONNECTED. AND A LOT OF FOLKS FIGURE US OUT BY ACTUALLY HAVING TO SHOW UP ONCE OR TWICE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WE JUST TELL 'EM ABOUT THOSE WHEN WE THERE. A SUGGESTION IS I WOULD GO THROUGH PARKS AND REC. OKAY. 'CAUSE IF EVERY, YOU KNOW, THE, WHATEVER YOU CALL THAT DIRECTOR OF THE PARK, WHICHEVER IT IS. FOR INSTANCE, SILVERADO I KNEW LIVED NEAR SILVERADO. YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE, UH, A DIRECTOR AND THEY'LL HAVE FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE WORKING THERE. THEY KNOW ALL THE HOMELESS COMING IN NOW THERE WHEN EMERGENCIES ARE NEEDED, WHEN THESE PEOPLE JUST NEED HELP. SO MY SUGGESTION IS IF YOU CAN GO THROUGH AT LEAST PARKS AND RENT, 'CAUSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE PARKS PROBABLY HOW SMALL THAN MORE HOMELESS THAN YOU KNOW MOST PLACES. THAT'S ACTUALLY, IT'S A GREAT COMMENT AND I LOVE THAT YOU MENTIONED IT. 'CAUSE WE DO WORK INTER INTERDEPARTMENTALLY WITH THE PARKS AND THE LIBRARIES AND WE DO GET SOME CALLS FROM THE PARKS. UM, OFTENTIMES A LOT OF THOSE CALLS ARE HOMELESSNESS RELATED, SO THE HOMELESS SERVICES TEAMS WILL GO OUT. OKAY. WE HAVE A LOT OF OVERLAP WITH TEAMS LIKE THE REACH TEAM. WE DO A LOT OF SIMILAR THINGS. SO WHEN IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE INDIVIDUAL NEEDS MORE SUPPORT AROUND SHELTER, AROUND HOMELESSNESS, AND THERE'S A MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT COMPONENT, THE PARKS WILL OFTEN REACH OUT TO THE REACH TEAM BECAUSE THEY'RE BETTER INTERTWINED WITH THE HOMELESS SERVICES RESPONSE. AT LEAST THEY KNOW. AND THAT'S, YEAH. WHICH IS MY SUGGESTION IS HONESTLY WE CAN ALWAYS DO BETTER. I'LL TAKE IT. I LOVE IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. YEAH, THANK YOU. YES, THANK YOU. YOU THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME. APPRECIATE YOU CAN ALWAYS REACH OUT IF YOU NEED ANY SUPPORT. GM KNOWS WHERE I'M AT SO YOU CAN ALSO REACH OUT. , THANK YOU SO MUCH. SHE'S THE BUILDING. YEAH. WE LOVE HAVING PEOPLE COME AND PRESENT AND FIND THAT ALL WITH THE CITY. MM-HMM. TURNED OVER. I WARM. OKAY. I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND PURPOSE SCREEN. THAT WORKS. WHAT'S THIS ALL ABOUT? DO DO YOU MIND INTRODUCING YOURSELF? I I DIDN'T HEAR YOU WHEN, UH, WHEN WE WENT AROUND. YEAH, NO WORRIES. I'M JOHN DUNNING LONG BEACH POST. OH, SEE YOU'RE HERE WITH THE POST. YEAH. OH NO. T THE PRESS IS HERE. GET OUT. YES, BUDDY. SHUT UP. UP. AND, AND IT'S JOHN DUNNING, UH, DONOGAN. OH, OKAY. SORRY. UM, DO YOU MIND IF WE GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF AGENDA ITEMS REALLY QUICK AND THEN WE CAN GIVE YOU THE FORM. GREAT. THANK I'M NOT GONNA COMMENT OR ANYTHING. I'M JUST, HE'S HERE TO LISTEN. OH, YOU'RE JUST HERE. OH, BUT YOU WANTED I'M SITTING IN. OKAY. FANTASTIC. DO YOUR THING. PRESS IS PRESENT. . OKAY. OH, WE'RE, LET'S GO TO NUMBER TWO. WE NEED TO FINISH. DO WE NEED TO FINISH NUMBER FOUR? UM, YES, WE DO. WE DO. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . SO, SO YOU WANNA ASK FOR A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE? YES. A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. I MAKE THAT MOTION. MOTION BY NICK. SECONDED AGAIN. I THOUGHT WE'D DO PUBLIC CON COMMENT FIRST. [00:45:01] PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT. ANYTHING? NOPE. HEARING NONE. MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR TO RECEIVE AND FILE, UH, THE REPORT FROM ANTHONY ALVO WITH THE CO COMMUNITY PRECISE CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM. ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE A. AYE. OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS. ALRIGHT, NUMBER FOUR IS COMPLETE. ALRIGHT. UM, LET'S POP BACK TO NUMBER TWO. DO I BE TO HEAR FROM THE JOB FAIR OR IS THAT YEAH, I'LL TAKE CARE OF CARE OF THAT. WHY DON'T YOU TAKE THE JOB FAIR? SORRY. RECOMMENDING TO RECEIVE AND FILE DISCUSSION ON VETERAN SERVICE JOB FAIR ON THE 17TH. OKAY. I'M SORRY. I'M HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES RIGHT NOW. YOU, ME BOTH. OKAY. WHY IS IT DOING THIS? NOT THAT IMPORTANT. . OKAY. WELL THE FAIR, THE, THE, UH, THE SPECIFICS ARE NOT THAT IMPORTANT. I'M ON THE SCREEN, BUT THE VETERANS IN SERVICE MEMBER JOB FAIR IS A WEEK FROM TOMORROW. AND THIS IS BEING PRESENTED BY THE OFFICE OF VETERANS SUPPORT AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND THE, IN THE PUBLIC SERVICE FELLOW THAT YOU MET ALEXANDRIA OBAR AT OUR MEETINGS A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. THIS IS REALLY HER, HER DREAM BOAT, SO TO SO TO SPEAK. AND JUST SO THAT YOU KNOW, UH, I, IF YOU ARE ABLE TO ATTEND THE JOB FAIR, IT'S FROM, UH, 10 TO ONE O'CLOCK NEXT THURSDAY. EVEN IF YOU YOURSELF ARE NOT LOOKING FOR A JOB AS A COMMISSIONER, IF YOU WANT TO DROP BY, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO THAT. UM, IF YOU WANT TO HELP PROMOTE THE EVENT, IF YOU KNOW OF VETERANS THAT ARE LOOKING FOR JOBS, UM, THAT'S A GOOD THING TO DO AS WELL. UH, THERE, THIS PARTICULAR JOB FAIR IS GOING TO BE QUITE LARGE. SO NOT ONLY DOES IT HAVE, UH, 20 EMPLOYERS FROM L-A-U-S-D TO THE LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT TO EVEN DISNEY IS GOING TO BE THERE, ET CETERA. UM, BUT IT ALSO HAS A, UH, A FEW PANELS. SO ONE OF THE PANELS IS ON LIKE HOW TO NAVIGATE YOUR FINANCES, LIKE A FINANCIAL TYPE WORKSHOP. AND IT'S SPECIFICALLY AIMED AT TRANSITIONING VETERANS AND VETERANS. THE PUBLIC IS WELCOME AND IT IS FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, BUT IF YOU, LIKE I SAID, KNOW OF ANY TRANSITIONING SERVICE MEMBERS THAT ARE LOOKING FOR EMPLOYMENT AND UH, AND INTERESTED IN WORKSHOPS LIKE THAT. ANOTHER WORKSHOP THEY'RE HAVING IS, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN JOINING LBPD, THERE'LL BE FOUR OFFICERS THERE DOING A PANEL DISCUSSION AND FIELDING QUESTIONS ABOUT BECOMING A CADET. UH, THEY'LL, THE VA WILL ALSO HAVE A PRESENCE THERE AND DO A HOME LOAN WORKSHOP. UH, SO 26 TOTAL VENDORS, AS I MENTIONED, 20 EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES, TWO HOUSING ASSISTANCE RELATED ORGANIZATIONS, UH, TWO MENTAL HEALTH AND HEALTH SUPPORT RELATED ORGANIZATIONS, THE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE I MENTIONED. AND THEY'LL ALSO BE, UH, A RESUME BAR. UH, A WAY THAT YOU CAN HAVE A, A BOOT FOR GETTING A PROFESSIONAL HEADSHOT. SNACKS AND LUNCH ARE AVAILABLE WHILE SUPPLIES LAST AND THERE'LL BE OPPORTUNITY DRAWINGS AS WELL. SO THAT IS, IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT THE OFFICE OF VETERANS SUPPORT CAN REPORT ON HAVING DONE THIS YEAR IS, IS TO MAKE THIS JOB FAIR HAPPEN. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THE JOB FAIR LOCATION? OH, THAT'S A GOOD ONE. THE LOCATION IS, UH, ON THE FLYER. IT'S RIGHT DOWN THE STREET. THE LONG BEACH WORKFORCE INNOVATION NETWORK, ADULT CAREER SERVICES CENTER, WHICH IS A VERY HUGE MOUTHFUL. 48 11 AIRPORT PLAZA DRIVE. IT'S WHERE THE DMV IS BASIC. I MEAN, NOT THE DMV AAA. AA, I GOT MY DMV AND AAA MIXED UP. SORRY ABOUT THAT. IF, IF ONE OF US WAS TO SHOW UP, WHAT WOULD WE DO IF A COMMISSIONER WAS OUT? WELL IT'S JUST A NICE GESTURE AS A COMMISSIONER TO JUST SHOW UP AND SHOW YOUR FACE AND IF YOU WANT TO SAY HELLO AND, AND YOU KNOW, UH, SHE CAN'T THIS BABIES. THAT'S RIGHT. , WE ARE THERE TO SUPPORT. RIGHT. OKAY. THERE IT IS. A LONG LAST. OKAY, SO THAT IS A REPORT. THIS IS HERE. WHAT IS THE, OH, I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT ALL OF THAT STUFF IS ON THE BOTTOM OF THE FLYER. YEAH. FINANCIAL. IT WAS REQUIRED BY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PART. WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? OH, SORRY ABOUT THAT. HEARING NONE. CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE A FILE ONCE AGAIN, JUANITA BEAT HIM TO IT. NO, NO, NO. I'LL SECOND IT. NO SECOND. YOU CAN DO IT. I'LL SECOND. JUANITA, NICK. ALRIGHT. UM, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS. MOVING [00:50:01] RIGHT ALONG. ALRIGHT, NOW WE'RE GONNA GET TO THE BANNER PROGRAM, WHICH WE'VE HAD A LOT OF SUCCESSES. LOOKS LIKE. UM, THIS WILL BE A, A RECOMMENDATION RECEIVE AND FILE DISCUSSION ON THE VETERANS DINNER PROGRAM. AND NOW WE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. UM, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO REPORT THE FACTS FIRST? SURE. OKAY. THE FACTS ALRIGHT. YOU CAN'T BLOW THAT UP. YEAH, PROBABLY I CAN . I KNOW. WE'RE, I JUST GOT THIS TODAY TIME. OLD EYES DON'T WORK. LEMME SEE WHAT I CAN DO. THERE WE GO. GREAT. THANK YOU. LET'S START BIT BY BIT ON IT. OKAY. 143. THAT'S NOT BAD. SO WE ACTUALLY GOT 150 APPLICATIONS, BUT WE, BUT WE, UH, WHEN WHAT WE DID TO MAKE IT 1 43 IS BECAUSE WE GOT DUPLICATES. SO AT LEAST TWO PEOPLE APPLIED MORE THAN ONCE. WE HAD ONE SAY, WITHDRAW THEIR APPLICATION. AND ARE YOU READY FOR THIS? ONE OF 'EM WAS A FABRICATION AND WE CAUGHT IT. WHAT DID YOU CATCH IT? YOU CAUGHT IT. HOW DID YOU CATCH IT? BECAUSE THEY OPENLY SAID THEY, THEY WERE A PROFESSOR AT CAL STATE LONG BEACH AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, AND WE CAN'T FIND ANYTHING ON THEM ANYWHERE. SO WE, THERE WERE SOME SUSPICIOUS THINGS, BUT UH, THAT'S HOW THE NUMBER GOT TO 1 40, 1 50. WE ACTUALLY THINK THERE'S SOME AI INVOLVED IN SOME OF THE PHOTOS AS WELL. SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE MADE IT BIG WHEN AI PHOTOS SHOW UP. RIGHT. SO IT'S PRETTY FASCINATING. WE WANNA LOOK GOOD. COULD YOU GO DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT? YEAH, YEAH. AND I'M ALSO GONNA, GONNA SCROLL UP A LITTLE BIT. THAT'S GOOD. OKAY. SO I'M GONNA READ THESE. THE BREAKDOWN OF THE APPLICATIONS THAT WE RECEIVED ARE 60 PEOPLE FROM THE ARMY, 38 FROM THE NAVY, 26 FOR THE, FROM THE MARINES 18 AIR FORCE VETERANS, SIX COAST GUARD, 75 OF THIS. 143 NON-WHITE. SO THAT'S 13 ASIAN, 23 AFRICAN AMERICAN. UH, I'M LOSING MY PLACE HERE. 38 HISPANIC OR LATINX. UH, ONE NATIVE AMERICAN FIVE, PREFER NOT TO STATE AND 63 WHITE. SO THAT IS EXCELLENT COMPARED TO LAST YEAR WHERE WE HAD, UH, WE HAD A LOT OF EAST SIDE PEOPLE APPLY, SHALL WE SAY. SO WE DID HAVE OPTIONAL DEMOGRAPHICS, SO IT WAS COMPLETELY OPTIONAL TO DO ANY DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION. SO WE WERE PLEASED THAT ANYONE ANSWERED THIS AT ALL. MM-HMM . SO WE ASKED, UH, VETERAN DISCLOSED DISABILITY, UM, PREFER NOT TO ANSWER WAS 29. YES. 39. AND THEN THEY DID CLICK FURTHER, BUT WE'RE NOT SHOWING IT HERE. LIKE WHAT KIND OF DISABILITY? I MEAN, NOT CLICK THEY FILLED, HAND FILLED IN. YEAH. WHAT THE DISABILITY WAS LIKE. PTSD, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT WHEN YOU CAN'T WALK AND YOU'RE IN A WHEELCHAIR PARALYSIS. YEAH. UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAD L-G-D-L-G-B-T-Q OPTIONS. SO 118 PEOPLE ACTUALLY SAID NO, 12 PREFER NOT TO ANSWER. AND FIVE IDENTIFIED AS YES. AND THEN THEY, THEY ALSO SELF-IDENTIFIED. WE DIDN'T HAVE A DROPDOWN ON THAT, SO THAT'S VERY INTERESTING. UM, AND THEN DO YOU WANNA DO THIS NEXT PART, KEN? THE LOCATIONS? LOCATION. LOCATION. LOCATIONS. LOCATIONS. WE'VE GOT THREE REALLY GOOD LOCATIONS WHERE WE ALL WORK TOGETHER AND KIND OF PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND LOOK AROUND THE CITY. AND WHERE WE HAVE IS ONE BELLFLOWER BOULEVARD, RIGHT ALONG THE VA. THERE'S ONLY, THERE'S ONLY POLES ON THE VA SIDE. THERE AREN'T ANY POLES ON THE OTHER SIDE. GOD, LORD KNOWS WHY. BUT THERE ARE, SO WE'RE GONNA DO 20 THERE. WE'RE GONNA DO AT THE AIRPORT ENTRANCE ON BOTH SIDES ON LAKE. IS THAT COOL? LAKEWOOD. WHAT? NO ONE'S DOING IT THERE. SO. WOW. WE WERE, IT'S NOT A STATE HIGHWAY. IT'S NOT CALTRAN, IT'S CITY. AND NO ONE ELSE DOES IT THERE. SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE BANNERS THERE FOR A YEAR AT THE ENTRANCE ON BOTH SIDES, ON LAKEWOOD AS YOU ENTER OUR AIRPORT. SO THAT'S A NICE PR PREMIER. YEAH. PLACE. HOW MANY AND WE'RE GONNA, HOW MANY, WE'RE GONNA DO LIKE 20 THERE. AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER LOCATION ON ATLANTIC. IT'S RIGHT BY ST. MARY'S. SO THAT'S GONNA BE ANOTHER GREAT LOCATION FOR ANOTHER PART OF THE CITY. SO WE'RE TRYING TO COVER AS MUCH OF THE CITY AND HAVE IT A BROAD VIEW. AND EACH YEAR WE CAN TRY TO DO THAT AND BE, WE WANT EVERYBODY REPRESENTED. WE WANT IT TO BE SEEN ALL OVER THE PLACE. AND WE MIGHT TRY, LIKE WITH THE VA, IF WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT ON THE ONES WE PICK. IF THEY HAPPEN TO GET SERVICES FROM THE VA, MAYBE WE PUT THEM OVER THERE. AND ALSO WE HAD DECIDED THAT WE'RE GONNA USE ONE BANNER FOR THE 61 FOR OUR VETERANS WHO ARE PART OF THE SHIP, THE SHIP ACCIDENT. WE'RE GONNA GIVE THEM ONE BANNER AND WE WERE THINKING IT WOULD BE [00:55:01] THE FIRST ONE ON BELLFLOWER. OH, NICE. JUST SO IT TIES ALL OF OUR EVENT WE'RE DOING TIES EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND IT'S A REMINDER TO THE, YOU KNOW, TO THEIR VETERANS. IT'S TO THE CITY. SO PEOPLE MAYBE LEARN SOMETHING AND IT'S A GOOD, IT IS A GOOD PRIME LOCATION. SO THAT WAS WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT. SO I'M REALLY HAPPY ABOUT US, YOU KNOW, SPREADING IT AROUND THE CITY A LITTLE BIT. GETTING SOME PREMIUM LOCATIONS AND REALLY GETTING IT OUT THERE. 'CAUSE GOD KNOWS IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANY MONEY NEXT YEAR, RIGHT. MAYBE WE'LL JUST LEAN HOME UP , THEY'LL BE UP FOR TWO YEARS. HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE HAVE THIS YEAR? 25. 25,000. OKAY. AND THIS WEEKEND ON SATURDAY, THE GROUP'S GONNA BE HERE. AND THIS VERY, WE 143. WE HAVE A SCORING SYSTEM. WE'RE EACH GONNA TAKE THE APPLICATIONS, WE'RE GONNA SCORE THEM, THEN WE WILL COMBINE IT AND THEN WE'LL PUT IT OUT AND WE'LL SEE WHICH ONES MAKE THE CUT. AND THEN WE'LL, IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES OR ANY COMMON ANYTHING WE HAVE TO WORK OUT, WE'LL WORK OUT. AND OUR GOAL IS TO COME UP WITH THOSE AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME WORK ON THE PHOTOGRAPHS OR WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PROBABLY GO OUT AND DRIVE AROUND A LITTLE BIT AND TAKE OUR PHONES AND TAKE A FEW PICTURES. OKAY, THAT'S FINE. THAT'S A LITTLE EXTRA. BUT WE WANT 'EM, IF THEY'VE GOT A GREAT, IF THEY GOT GOOD APPLICATION AND THEY, THEY HAVE IT, BUT THEY JUST DON'T HAVE A GOOD PHOTOGRAPH, THEN THAT SHOULDN'T STOP 'EM FROM BEING RECOGNIZED IN OUR CITY FOR BEING A VETERAN. THAT'S OUR GOAL IS TO TRY TO NOT LET SOMETHING LIKE THAT BE AN IMPEDIMENT TO THEM BEING RECOGNIZED. AND WE REALLY, LIKE WHEN I WAS IN LINE, I WAS THAT WE WERE AT THE, UM, EVENT, I WAS OVER AT THE VA ON THE FRIDAY, THE, THE, THE VETERAN SOCIAL. AND I HAD SOME EMPLOYEES IN LINE WHO ARE VETS AND I WAS LIKE, YEAH, WE REALLY WANT YOU GUYS TO, WE WANT YOUNGER VETS, WE WANT YOU GUYS SERVED. IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE ONES WHO ARE THE OLDER. WE WENT A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYBODY. AND I THINK WE REALLY DID BETTER 'CAUSE WE WENT OUT AND WENT TO PLACES AND WE WENT AROUND THE CITY THAT OUR DEMOGRAPHICS ARE BETTER THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE MADE THE EFFORT TO JUST, INSTEAD OF JUST PUTTING IT IN EMAILS AND NEWSPAPERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WHERE IT'S NOT GONNA BE SEEN AS MUCH WHERE WE MADE AN EFFORT AND WENT OUT TO THE PEOPLE AND PUSHED IT, THAT OUR DEMOGRAPHICS AND WHO KNOWS WHAT IT'S GONNA COME OUT AT THE END. 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA BE LOOKING AT THAT. THAT'S NOT OUR, THIS IS A BLIND LOOK. AND THE CITY MAKES VERY, IS VERY CAREFUL ABOUT THIS STUFF OF HOW WE HAD TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF SCORING SYSTEM AND BE FAIR TO EVERYONE. AND WE JUST LOOK AT THE APPLICATION. WE USE THE SCORING SYSTEM. EACH ONE OF US GIVE NUMBERS, GOOD THINGS. AND YOU CAN'T GET TOO DEEP. IT'S LIKE THERE'S NO WAY TO GRIND IT DOWN TO BE TOTALLY SUBJECTIVE. IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE OBJECTIVE. THAT'S JUST HOW IT IS. WE'RE GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA READ IT DIFFERENT THAN I'M GONNA READ IT. HE'S GONNA READ IT DIFFERENT THAN YOU'RE GONNA READ. SO DID YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION? YEP. OKAY. I CAN'T MOTION. I'M THE CHAIR. DO WE, HAVE WE GONNA OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSIONS OR? WELL, THE MOTION HAS TO BE MADE FIRST US THEN DISCUSSION. YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION FROM THE COMMITTEE. THAT'S TRUE. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. AND WE, WE ACTUALLY WANNA APPROVE THOSE MATTER LOCATIONS. OH, THAT'S TRUE. WE NEED TO DISCUSS A LITTLE, WE'LL BRING THAT FOR DISCUSSION FIRST. 'CAUSE THERE GONNA BE SOME DISCUSSION ON THAT. BUT THOSE ARE WHAT WE'VE COME UP WITH AS THE COMMITTEE AND WE BRING THOSE FORWARD FOR APPROVAL OF THE COMMISSION. SO I OPEN IT NOW FOR DISCUSSION. UM, BESIDES THE DEMOGRAPHICS, UM, UH, QUESTIONS WERE THE, UM, WERE THERE ANY, UH, ANY NEW QUESTIONS FROM LAST YEAR'S APPLICATION? OR THEY PRETTY MUCH LIKE THE SAME? OR WERE THERE NEW QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED ON THE APPLICATION? THE BIGGEST NEW ONE, AND THAT CAME FROM ANTHONY CAME UP WITH THIS ONE WAS IT'S HONORABLE SERVICE. WE JUST PUT INTO WORDS RIGHT AT THE TOP. YOU HAVE TO HAVE HONORABLE SERVICE. OKAY. AND WE DIDN'T DIG INTO IT ANY FURTHER THAN THAT. AND IT'S, WE'RE NOT GOING TO LOOK 'EM UP, WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEARCH THEM AND MAKE SURE IT'S AN HONOR SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY. BUT LATER, IF SOMEBODY COMES UP AND SAID THEY HAVE A DISHONORABLE DISCHARGE OF OUR BCD, YES, WE PROBABLY WILL TAKE THEIR BACK DOWN. BUT IN GENERAL, WE ASK THEM, DO YOU HAVE HONORABLE SERVICE? OKAY. THAT WAS THE BIG, THE BIGGEST CHANGE. WE JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT YOUR SERVICE IS. SOME, SOME CONNECTION TO LONG BEACH. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, WERE YOU IN THE GUARD, WERE YOU AT THE GUARD CENTER OVER THERE? WERE YOU AT THE LITTLE GUARD CENTER DOWNTOWN? SOMETHING. OKAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. DID ANYBODY ELSE, ANYTHING FROM THE PUBLIC? UH, I, SO SEVEN, SEVEN APPLICATIONS WERE, YOU HAD ONE 50 AND THEN YOU WENT DOWN TO 1 43 MM-HMM . AND THEY WERE REJECTED. RIGHT. THEY, THEY'RE REJECTED ON THE BASIS OF DUPLICATES. DUPLICATES. SO IF SOMEBODY SUBMITTED [01:00:01] AN APPLICATION MORE THAN ONCE, THEN ONE OF THEIR APPLICATIONS IS REMOVED. MM-HMM . ONE OF THEM ACTUALLY CONTACTED US AND SAID, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS. OKAY. OR SOMEBODY NOMINATED SOMEBODY AND THEN THAT PERSON WAS LIKE, DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT. YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS THE ONE THAT, UH, THE, I HAVE A REVIEWER, AN INTERN HELPING ME, THANK GOODNESS. MM-HMM . LOOKED UP THE, THE TRIED TO FIND THIS PERSON AS AN ACTUAL PERSON THAT EXISTS AND COULD NOT FIND THAT. OH. LIKE THEY JUST, WERE NOT EVEN A PERSON LIKE THIS AS FAR AS WE CAN TELL. YEAH. OH. LIKE IT'S A JUST A MADE UP INDIVIDUAL. THAT'S RIGHT. WAS THAT PERSON FEMALE BY CHANCE? NO. OH, OKAY. 'CAUSE I, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO TALK A NEIGHBOR OF MINE WHO WAS A FEMALE INTO APPLYING, WHO IS A COLLEGE PROFESSOR AT CAL STATE LONG BEACH. NO, THIS IS A, THIS IS A MALE. SO IT'S A FICTITIOUS PERSON. A FICTITIOUS PERSON IS, WE HAD, WE LOOKED AT IT SEVERAL WAYS, SEVERAL TIMES TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT IF THIS PERSON REALLY HAD ANY AFFILIATION IN WHATEVER DEPARTMENT AT CAL STATE LONG BEACH. AND YOU KNOW, AFTER YOU TRY IT FIVE OR SIX TIMES, YOU'RE LIKE, UH, NOT WHAT DID IT SAY ABOUT THEIR MILITARY BACKGROUND? I DON'T REMEMBER. UM, BECAUSE I, I DIDN'T GET THAT DETAILED INTO IT. MY, MY SUPERVISOR AND THE INTERN GOT GOT IN. YOU KNOW, THEY DID DUE PROCESS BASICALLY. DID THEY CONTACT THE INDIVIDUAL? UM, I BELIEVE THEY TRIED AS WELL. AND THEY, THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO GET AHOLD OF HIM. THAT'S RIGHT. OH. SO THAT'S WEIRD. YEAH. THAT'S ONLY ONE OF 143. AND, AND I, I'M NOT GONNA WILLY-NILLY, YOU KNOW, DISREGARD THAT YOU AS THE COMMITTEE, YOU CAN REVIEW ALL 147 OR YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE SCREENING THEM IN THE SENSE OF ANYTHING THAT HAS A RED FLAG FROM THE GET GO KIND OF GOES IN THE SECOND TIER OF THE PILE. WHEREAS THE ONES THAT HAVE THEY ANSWERED ALL THE QUESTIONS COMPLETELY THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOW WE'RE KIND OF DOING IT BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE SEVEN HOURS ON SATURDAY. SO WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN. YEAH. AND ONE OF EM IS A HOLDOVER, RIGHT. WE'VE GOT A HOLDOVER. YOU HAVE A ONE HOLDOVER. ONE HOLDOVER, ONE HOLDOVER, AND THEN THE DECISION TO DO THE USS FRANKIE EVANS. SO YOU HAVE 60 BANNERS RIGHT NOW AND YOU'RE SELECTING 58. 58 BECAUSE TWO, WE HAVE ONE HOLDOVER FROM 2024. 'CAUSE WE SAID WE WOULD HOLD SOMEBODY FROM 2024 MM-HMM . MM-HMM . UM, AND I REVIEWED ALL NINE THAT WE WERE UNDER CONSIDERATION FROM LAST YEAR. BUT, UH, THEY, IT, IT DOESN'T MATTER. EVERYBODY GOT A CHANCE TO RESUBMIT. EVERYBODY WAS CONTACTED AT LEAST ONCE. LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THOSE EIGHT I, I PUT ON AN EMAIL SAYING, HEY, YOU SUBMITTED LAST YEAR. THERE'S A NEW, THIS APPLICATION HAS A LITTLE BIT OF CHANGES IN IT. PLEASE RESUBMIT IF YOU'RE INTERESTED. AND ONLY ONE AND ONLY ONCE DID THAT. OKAY. SO, SO WE'VE TRIED TO BE VERY, SO WE MADE AN EFFORT, WE REACHED OUT AND THEY CHOSE NOT TO RESPOND. RIGHT. EVERYBODY'S GOT THE SAME S**T. SHOCKED, ALMOST SAID S**T OKAY TOO. MEANING THAT EVERYBODY THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT LAST YEAR WAS INVITED. EVERYBODY THAT WAS ON THE MAYBE PILE. SO WE REALLY DID MAKE A TRULY CONCERTED EFFORT. I ALSO REACHED OUT TO THE PEOPLE THAT PROVIDED ANSWERS. LIKE, I GOTTA ASK MY SISTER ABOUT THIS INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, I ACTUALLY SAID, HEY, YOU ANSWERED, I GOTTA ASK MY SISTER. ASK YOUR SISTER NOW SO WE CAN COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES. AND THOSE PEOPLE, IF THEY DIDN'T OH, ON THAT PILE, I PROBABLY REACHED OUT TO 16 PEOPLE. RIGHT. AND MAYBE ONE OF THEM SAID, OH MY COUSIN JOE IS THIS, THIS, THIS AND THIS. BUT EVEN PEOPLE WERE CALLING ME AND SAYING, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THIS ON THE COMPUTER. SO I WAS ENTERING AT, YOU KNOW, SO I, WE WENT OVERBOARD IN A WAY TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAD AN EQUAL CHANCE TO SUBMIT. I EVEN TOOK A PICTURE MYSELF AT SOME AT AMERICAN GOLD STAR MANNER. OH YEAH, I KNOW. THERE WERE GOOD PICTURES. WE HAD PROBABLY 10 OUTREACH EVENTS TOTAL FROM FIRST FRIDAY TO, I LIVED AT CENTURY VILLAGES, A KOREA FOR TWO DAYS OR WHATEVER. AND UM, SO I JUST HOW WAS THAT EXPERIENCE? 'CAUSE I WAS SUPPOSED TO GO UP THERE. UM, IT WAS INTERESTING. YEAH. UH, THEY HAVE MANY TENANT MEETINGS OVER THERE, SO WE WENT TO MULTIPLE TENANT MEETINGS AND IT WAS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY GOT THE SAME CHANCE TO EVEN CALL US AND HAVE HELP OR WHATEVER. I THINK OUR BEST OUTREACH WAS AT AMERICAN GOLD STAR MATTER. 'CAUSE THEY TURNED IT INTO A LUNCH. THEY HAD PEOPLE SHOW UP AND WE WERE ACTUALLY HELPING THEM, YOU KNOW, PHYSICALLY HANDWRITING. HAD A COUPLE OTHER SERVICES THERE TO HAVE THEM RIGHT. BE ABLE TO DO OTHER SERVICES AS WELL. AND THE VETERAN I SPOKE WITH AND BECAME, YOU KNOW, HE WAS VERY SHY AND DIDN'T WANT TO TALK TO ME FOR, BY THE END HE WAS LIKE, THIS WAS SO GREAT. I HAD SO MUCH FUN. HE'S 80 YEARS OLD. BEATING OUT BETTER. YES. OKAY. SO THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO APPROVE THOSE THREE LOCATIONS. WE HAD DISCUSSION. YEAH. THAT WAS THE DISCUSSION. ANY MAY ASK FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE WASN'T ANY. AND, ALRIGHT. FROM THE CHAIR, FROM THE CHAIR COMMITTEE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE OUR LOCATIONS. CAN I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. NICK'S [01:05:01] ALWAYS A SECONDER OVER HERE. HE'S MR. SECOND. OKAY. UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? AB EXTENSIONS. WE GOT IT. OKAY. EVEN THOUGH THIS IS PAST DISCUSSION TIME, I MAY, I CALLED, UM, THE LONG BEACH. UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SIT OVER HERE? ARE YOU, ARE YOU SPLITTING THE SCENE? DID YOU MAKE SURE YOU SIGNED IN UHOH? THANK YOU. BUT I'LL SEND AN EMAIL. OKAY. UH, WHAT WAS I GONNA SAY? I ACTUALLY CALLED THE PIO PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER FOR THE, UH, LONG BEACH AIRPORT AND TOLD HER ABOUT THE BANNERS, UH, THAT I'M HOPING THE COMMISSION APPROVES TO DO THIS, WHICH I KIND OF FIGURED YOU WERE WOULD. UM, AND I SAID, WE'RE GONNA HAVE BANNERS ALL AROUND THE AIRPORT. AND SHE'S LIKE, THIS IS THE GREATEST THING EVER. LET'S DO A RIBBON CUTTING. SO SHE'S TALKING ABOUT LIKE, UM, THE WEEKEND, THE WEEKEND BEFORE THE 4TH OF JULY THAT WE DO AN EVENT AT THE AIRPORT ITSELF AND HAVE PICTURES OF, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR GIANT BLOWN UP PHOTOS OF WHEN WORLD WAR II WAS A MAJOR, UH, ARMY AIR CORPS BASE YEAH. AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO THEY'RE SUPER EXCITED. AND SO I JUST WANNA TELL YOU THAT WE ARE GONNA DO A RIBBON CUTTING THIS HERE IN SOME SORT OF, UH, HOBNOB EVENT. AND SO WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC DATE, BUT I WAS JUST LIKE, THEY WERE LIKE, IT'S ABOUT TIME WE HAD VETERANS BANNERS IN FRONT OF THE AIRPORT AND I WAS LIKE, DANG IT. THIS IS GOOD. WE'RE GONNA DO THE RIBBON CUTTING AT ONE LOCATION. NOT ALL OVER. YEAH. JUST AT, JUST AT THE AIRPORT. BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'LL OFFER THE SPACE. THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY AND THEY'LL PAY FOR IT. YEAH, EXACTLY. , THAT'S WHAT IT IS. YOU WANT SNACKS? I'M SURE THEY'LL TAKE CARE OF IT. YEAH. SO YEAH, THEY, THEY'VE GOT THE, THEY DO STUFF ALL THE TIME. MARKETING AND THE PUBLIC AFFAIRS STUFF TO GET IT OUT THERE IN THE WORLD. OKAY. SO THAT'S VERY EXCITING BECAUSE I WAS ENVISIONING LIKE, HOW WOULD WE DO IT IN FRONT OF THE VA, LIKE ON THE SIDEWALK, YOU KNOW, WHEREAS IT'S A, IT'D BE A TOUGH CORNER, BUT THE COULD GET THE VA INVOLVED, BUT THAT'S FINE. YEAH. THAT MAYBE WE, WE CAN DO THAN ONE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, I THINK, IS THERE SOMEBODY, FRANKIE EVANS HERE TONIGHT? NO. NOPE. FRANKIE EVANS, UM, WAS A DESTROYER IN THE VIETNAM WAR THAT WAS LITERALLY CUT IN HALF BY THE AUSTRALIAN AIRCRAFT CARRIER AND 57 SEMEN WHO, IT WAS BASED OUT OF LONG BEACH AND WAS IT, I THINK IT WAS 57? 74 74 WHENEVER DIED WITH THE SHIP WHEN IT WAS LITERALLY CUT IN HALF. AND WE'RE GONNA BE JOINING WITH THEM THIS YEAR ON MEMORIAL DAY DOING AN EVENT WITH THEM. AND WE'RE, WE'RE GIVING, THAT'S WHY WE'RE GIVING THEM ONE OF THE BANNERS. IT'S GONNA BE ON THE CORNER NEAR, UM, THE VA. AND IT'S INTERESTING 'CAUSE THAT, THAT, UM, AIRCRAFT CARRIER WAS A KILLER. IT RAN OVER TWO DESTROYERS. IT RAN OVER AN AUSTRALIAN DESTROYER TWO YEARS EARLIER. OH WOW. WHAT? THAT'S, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. YEAH. RAN OVER, RAN OVER, CHOPPED UP IN YEAH. OBVIOUSLY OUT THE SAME. CAPTAIN I'D STAY AWAY FROM. I WERE DESTROYER CAPTAIN. I'D BE, STAY AWAY FROM HIM. YEAH. THAT WAS AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION. LAST, YEAH. LAST MONTH. THEY DID REALLY TOP NOT JOB. UM, ALL RIGHT. SO NOW NUMBER FIVE. WE'RE OFF TO NUMBER, SEE NUMBER FIVE. WE DID THIS. UM, WE WERE, WERE JUST TALKING WITH FRANKIE EVANS. MM-HMM . UM, OH, GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD GINA. UM, SO THE NUMBER FIVE RECOMMENDATION OF RECEIVING FILED DISCUSSION ON THE US IS FRANKIE EVANS AND LOSS 74 COMMEMORATION ON JUNE 3RD. SO MARK YOUR CALENDARS ALL OF YOU. TUESDAY, JUNE 3RD, 10:00 AM TO 1:00 PM AND SOME OF YOU I MIGHT ASK TO COME EARLY 'CAUSE WE EARLIER 'CAUSE WE WILL HAVE A TABLE PLAN TO ATTEND AND VOLUNTEER. UH, WE, SO SAY THE TIME AGAIN. TUESDAY, JUNE 3RD, 10:00 AM TO 1:00 PM 10. OKAY. AND WE'LL HAVE A VETERANS OFFICE OF VETERANS SUPPORT TABLE THERE. WE DID GET $5,000 FROM THE PORT OF LONG BEACH. AS I MENTIONED, THE MEDIA RELEASE IS DRAFTED AND MOVING THROUGH THE APPROVALS. SO WE ARE GONNA START REALLY PROMOTING THIS. AND THE, BASICALLY THIS CELEBRATION IS TO COMMEMORATE THE USS FRANKIE EVANS AND LOST 74, THE CITY'S NAVAL HISTORY MEMORIAL DAY. AND THE RENAMING OF THE SEVEN 10 PCH JUNCTION AND BRIDGE FOR FRANKIE EVANS LOST 74. SO THE INTERCHANGE AND THE BRIDGE ARE GOING TO BE NAMED FOR THE TRAGEDY. NICE. SO IT'S A REALLY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY. AND, UM, THE THIRD PAGE IN MY NOTES DID NOT PRINT, BUT BASICALLY THERE'LL BE A 21 GUN SALUTE. THERE'LL BE BAGPIPES, THERE'LL BE A WREATH LANE CEREMONY. UH, THERE'LL BE THE PRESENTATION OF COLORS, UH, BESIDES A WREATH CEREMONY. OH, THE, THE BELL RINGING WHEN THEY READ THE NAMES OF THE FALLEN. UM MM-HMM . SO IT'LL HAVE THE CEREMONIAL COMPONENTS AND THE, THE TELLING OF THE STORY ABOUT THE EVANS, BUT IT'LL ALSO HAVE, THEY HAVE A TOMMY'S HAMBURGER TRUCK AND THEY'RE GOING TO FEED EVERYBODY. [01:10:01] SO THAT'S IT. WHERE'S IT GONNA BE? IT'S, IT'S AT THE NAVY MEMORIAL WHERE WE, WE HAD OUR EVENT. OKAY, GOOD. YES. WHERE WE HAD THE MEMORIAL EVENT LAST YEAR, RIGHT? YES. MM-HMM . WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE, I KNOW THIS IS GOING TO JERK WITH THEIR, YOU JUST SIT RIGHT DOWN THE COUNTER. THANK YOU DEAR. HELLO? HI. HI. SORRY. DELIVERY. IT'S AN ABSOLUTE OBSTACLE. COURSE DELIVERY THINGS. I FORGOT. I NEED TO GO BACK ON MY NEW SIDE JOB. CAMERA BACK. UM, I KNOW IT'S OUT OF SEQUENCE A LITTLE BIT AND MAYBE YOU CAN ASK OUR BANNER COMPANY IF THEY COULD PULL THIS OFF. IF WE COULD SOMEHOW HAVE THE BANNER, THEIR BANNER BE LIKE LATE GETTING UP OR SOMEHOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WORK, BUT, OH, YOU MEAN LIKE PRESENTED AT THE EVENT? YEAH. JUST HAVE IT AS A SHOW PIECE. YOU KNOW, EVEN IF IT'S NOT THE ACTUAL BANNER, MAYBE NOT A GLOBE PHOTO OF WHAT LOOKS LIKE A GLOBE ABOVE IT. ANOTHER, MAYBE THEY MAKE, WE'VE GOT EXTRA MONEY. MAYBE THEY JUST BURN ANOTHER, LIKE A PHOTO BOARD OR SOMETHING. SO WHERE ARE YOU, WHERE ARE YOU TRYING TO HAVE THIS BANNER AND, AND IN THE LOCATIONS? I WAS, I WAS HOPING TO HAVE IT AS THE FIRST BANNER AT THE VA ON THE CORNER OF BELLFLOWER. SEVENTH. SEVENTH. OKAY. THE FIRST FOR THE ONE RIGHT ON THE CORNER OF THE VA. SO IT REALLY GETS A PROMINENT SPOT. OKAY. VA WISE. AND SO YOU'RE SUGGESTING TO THIS ONE FOR THIS EVENT OR THEY PRINT US OR WE HAVE, IF WE HAVE A LITTLE EXTRA MONEY, THEY PRINT US AN EXTRA ONE JUST TO HAVE IT AS US TYING UP. SO WE BRING IT TO THE EVENT AND PRESENT IT TO THEM OR TIE IT, YOU KNOW, SOMEHOW TIE THE TWO EVENTS TOGETHER. YEAH. OKAY. PRESENT A REPLICA TO THEM. PRESENT A REPLICA OR A FULL SIZE REPLICA OR, YEAH, I LIKE THE IDEA THE BANNERS THEMSELVES ARE NOT GONNA COST MORE THAN 50, YOU KNOW, 75 BUCKS FOR THE VINYL. YEAH. A HUNDRED BUCKS FOR THE VINYL. SO I JUST THOUGHT IT'D BE A NICE THING FOR US TO DO TO, ASIDE FROM WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING RIGHT. TO BE PART OF THEIR CEREMONY. AND IT WOULDN'T TAKE, I, I WILL ASK THE BANNER COMPANY IF THEY CAN DO A MINI BANNER. LIKE YEAH. LIKE FRAMED KIND OF THING THAT WE PRESENT IT TO THE, SOMEHOW TO MAKE, GIVE, YOU KNOW, REALLY TIE US TOGETHER. AND WHAT'S VERY COOL IS NOT ONLY DO THE SURVIVORS AND THEIR FAMILIES SHOW UP, BUT THEY, THEY, THEY'RE FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. SO PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM NEVADA, ARIZONA, NORTH, NORTH, NORTH CAROLINA, UH, NORTHERN CALIFORNIA. THERE'S ACTUALLY 33 MONUMENTS FOR THE EVANS SCATTERED ALL AROUND THE, ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. OH REALLY? YEAH. IT'S, IT'S VERY INTERESTING. BUT THEY'RE STILL FIGHTING FOR THE VIETNAM WALL, AS YOU KNOW. AND I THINK WE CAN GET A COUPLE OF AUSTRALIANS, THEY LIKE, THEY FLY SOME AUSTRALIAN NAVAL REPRESENTATIVES OVER HERE AS WELL. SO IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING. SO I, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT IT AND YOU ARE ALL PART OF IT BECAUSE IT IS OUR EVENT. SO WHEN YOU SAY IT IS OUR EVENT, IT'S NOT LIKE THE VETERANS DAY CELEBRATION? NO, IT'S OUR EVENT IN THE SENSE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE THE LEAD AGENCY. WE WROTE THE MEDIA RELEASE. THEY'RE GONNA DO MOST OF THE CEREMONIAL STUFF. SO WE DON'T THANK GOODNESS, BUT THIS IS IN LIEU OF MEMORIAL. THIS IS IN LIEU OF US DOING OUR OWN MEMORIAL DAY EVENT INDEPENDENCE. RIGHT. SO WHO'S PLANNING IS WHAT I'M, I'M AT ESPECIALLY EVENTS OR THE FOUNDATION. WE, WE ARE PLANNING IT, BUT WE'RE NOT PLANNING TO THE DETAILS. LIKE WHO'S SPEAKING, WHO'S, WE'RE MAKING SURE THE POLITICIANS SHOW UP. UH, THE, THE, THAT WE HAVE TABLES THERE. WE'RE GETTING THINGS LIKE WE GOT LAST YEAR, LIKE, UM, THE TENTS AND TABLES AND CHAIRS, YOU KNOW, THE SAME SOURCE THAT WE GOT IT FROM LAST YEAR. BUT THEY ARE ALSO PROVIDING, LIKE, THEY'RE GONNA PROVIDE WHERE THE FOOD IS GONNA BE SERVED, LIKE NICE TABLES WITH SKIRTS ON THEM AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO WE'RE DIVVYING UP WHO DOES WHAT. OH, SO SPECIAL EVENTS IS DOING THAT? NO. WHO IS THE, THE EVANS? YEAH. OH, OKAY. YEAH. EVANS. IT'S CALLED THE USS FRANK E. EVANS ASSOCIATION. ASSOCIATION. RIGHT. G AND THE EVAN ASSOCIATION. SO WE ARE, WE ARE DOING THE ACTUAL LOGISTIC, THE ESSENTIAL SUPPORTING LOGISTICS AND THE RECEPTION AND ACTUAL CEREMONY OR PLUG AND PLAY. THAT'S RIGHT. PERFECT. HEY, THAT WAS VERY WELL PUT. I COULDN'T ARTICULATE IT MYSELF. . OKAY. BECOME POLITICIANS. SO I'VE HYPED YOU UP ON THAT. UM, I I'M GOING TO, WELL I CAN'T MAKE A MOTION. WE NEED A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THIS REPORT. MOTION. ALL SET, . ALRIGHT, I WAS READY. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS? ANYBODY? ANYBODY. ANYBODY. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. UM, HAVE HEARD NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS ON TO THE NEXT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. AND THESE TWO NEXT ITEMS ARE YOURS. OH, THEY'RE ON THE REAL AGENDA. THAT, SORRY. THAT SECOND PAGE OPPOSED THE AGENDA. OKAY, LET'S GET THAT. IT'S ON THE BACK OF THE POST PAGE. OKAY, GREAT. OKAY. [01:15:01] OKAY. THIS NEXT ONE IS ONE, UH, THIS IS NUMBER SIX IS A RECOMMENDATION. RECEIVE FILE. A DISCUSSION TALKING ABOUT CHANGING CHAPTER 2.60 ON THE LONG BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE RELATED TO THE VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMISSION. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT MEANS ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL TO CHANGE OUR STATUS AS A RE AS A, UM, COUNCIL DISTRICT BY COUNCIL DISTRICT COMMISSION OF NINE MEMBERS TO A SEVEN MEMBER AT LARGE COMMISSION WITH A MAXIMUM OF TWO MEMBERS PER DISTRICT. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, IN THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, WE'RE LEARNING THE HARD WAY. SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE MORE ACTIVE IN GETTING COMMISSION MEMBERS THAN OTHERS AND IT'S PROBABLY NO MATTER THE COMMISSION AND WE'VE HIT NOT MAKING QUORUM. MAKING QUORUM HAS BECOME A REAL PROBLEM. AND THAT'S NO GOOD. THAT MAKES US INEFFECTIVE. SO IF WE COULD HAVE THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND HIS PEOPLE WHO RUN COMMISSIONS WITH THE COUNCIL SUPPORT, PUSHING PEOPLE, IF THEY'VE HAPPENED TO RUN ACROSS SOMEBODY, WE RUN ACROSS SOMEBODY, WHATEVER THEY GET TO THEM, INSTEAD OF IT JUST BEING OKAY, WE'RE WAITING ON ONE OR TWO DISTRICTS WHO NEVER SEND US SOMEBODY. WE ASK THEM, WE REQUEST IT, IT NEVER HAPPENS. AND WE'RE RUNNING INTO THAT RIGHT NOW WHERE WE HAVE THREE DISTRICTS WHO NEVER SENT, HAVE NEVER SENT US ANYONE SINCE THE ISSUE CAME UP. WHAT HAPPENED IS THIS COMMISSION STARTED WITH NINE PEOPLE, ALL NINE OF THEM PRETTY MUCH, EXCEPT FOR MAYBE ONE OR TWO SERVED ALL EIGHT YEARS. AND THEY ALL LEFT AT ONCE. AND JUANITA'S BEEN KIND ENOUGH TO HANG OUT WITH US FOR A FEW, SEVERAL EXTRA MONTHS TO HELP US KEEP QUORUM BECAUSE NO QUORUM, NO VOTES, NO NOTHING. WE DIE. AND WE GOT DOWN TO LIKE FOUR PEOPLE FOR A WHILE AND THEY GAVE US A FEW MORE. WE'VE GOT ONE MORE COMING IN FROM DISTRICT EIGHT, BUT IT'S BECOME AN ISSUE. AND I THINK WE NEED TO ACTUALLY BASE THE ISSUE AND RESOLVE IT. AND I'M GONNA GO TO MY COUNCILMAN, OUR COUNCILMAN AND ASK HER IF SHE'LL BE A LEAD ON IT AND HELP US JUST MAKE IT HAPPEN. 'CAUSE THERE ARE OTHER, THERE ARE OTHER COMMISSIONS IN THE CITY THAT ARE AT LARGE AND WE CAN, WE CAN SOLVE THE ISSUE OF PEOPLE FEELING IT'S GONNA GET TAKEN OVER BY ONE AREA OR ANOTHER. JUST SAYING IT'S MAXIMUM OF TWO MEMBERS PER DISTRICT THAT AT LEAST KEEPS IT ACROSS THE CITY. AND IF SOMEONE HAS SOMEONE THEY CAN DID YOU SAY IT'S 7 7, 7. IT MAKES SENSE. AND THAT'S NOT A, THAT'S NOT SET IN STONE. MEANING WE, WE COULD DO IT, WE CAN DO A LITTLE RESEARCH. THIS IS MY IDEA. THIS IS AN IDEA. I'M JUST ASKING BECAUSE MAKE IT EASIER TO, SO IT WOULD GO FROM NINE PEOPLE TO SEVEN PEOPLE. CORRECT. AND OUR QUORUM WOULD THEN BECOME FOUR, OR IT COULD BE NINE PEOPLE, BUT ALL AT LARGE. SO, OR WE COULD DO NINE ALL AT LARGE OR WE CAN DO NINE AT LARGE. I I'M NOT, I'M NOT MARRIED. EXACTLY. I'M PERSONALLY NOT MARRIED TO THE NUMBER. I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE, AT LARGE PART BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE US BE, NOT BE SO, SO DIRE EACH TIME WE HAVE TO TRY TO DRAG PEOPLE IN AND BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT OTHER THINGS, THEY MAY HAVE GOT THINGS THAT HAPPEN AND THAT HAPPENS IN LIFE. BUT IF ONE PERSON HAS SOMETHING HAPPEN, IT IS ALMOST LIKE THE CONGRESS. YOU'VE GOT A FIVE VOTE MI BARRIER THERE AND IF A FEW PEOPLE ARE SICK THAT DAY, YOU DON'T GET QUORUM. AND WE'RE OUTTA LUCK. WE JUST GO HOME. SO, SO LET'S IN THE DISPATCH, SO YOU GUYS ARE WANTING, YOU THINK NINE IS A BETTER NUMBER? MM-HMM . NO, THIS ALSO DOESN'T HAVE TO BE VOTED ON RIGHT NOW BECAUSE YOU COULD SAY THAT THERE'S A SUB. WE HAVE A A TWO PERSON SUBCOMMITTEE THAT LOOKS AT A COUPLE OF THE, THE CHARTERS THAT ALREADY EXIST FOR, AT LARGE MEMBERS AND JUST COPIES THE LANGUAGE. AND BECAUSE WE HAVE TO WRITE IT UP IN CONSULT WITH THE, I I THINK IT'S GONNA BE THAT IF WE ASK OUR COUN, IF THE COUNCILMAN PUTS IT FORWARD AND ASKS THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DRAFT THE LANGUAGE THAT'S APPROPRIATE. 'CAUSE THEY'LL WANT THEIR LANGUAGE. I'M SURE THEY HAVE SOMETHING THAT THEY WRITE WHERE IT SAYS, WE DRAW, WE NIX THIS PART OF THE, LIKE WHEN THEY CHANGE THE LAW, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THE, YOU SEE IT IN THE, WHEN YOU'RE VOTING AND THEY SAY THEY CROSS OFF THIS PART AND ADD THIS PART. I THINK IT'S GONNA BE US HAVING ONE OF OUR COUNCILMEN JUST TO, TO, TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE CHARTER TO AMEND TO HAVE THIS, HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY TO PROVIDE THE PROPER LANGUAGE. BUT I CAN TALK TO HER LIKE WE CAN, ONE OF US CAN TALK TO OUR COUNCIL PEOPLE AND JUST GET THAT. WELL IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO JUST FIND OUT. I THINK, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER THE PLANNING COMMISSION. HARVARD COMMISSION'S FIVE PLANNING COMMISSION I THINK IS SEVEN. I'M 99% SURE I REMEMBER THAT. SO AT LEAST THOSE TWO ARE BASICALLY AT LARGE WITHIN THE CITY. MM-HMM . AND SO YOU GOT A FIVE AND A SEVEN. THE SEVEN IS REALLY PROBABLY MUCH MORE MANAGEABLE. OKAY. LET'S GO AROUND THE ROAD, LET'S GO AROUND THE TABLE. WE'LL GO THIS WAY AROUND THE TABLE. UM, WITH THAT, MY, MY THOUGHT IS, [01:20:01] I WANNA SAY THAT THE, THE PLANNING AND THE HARBOR COMMISSION, THOSE COMMISSIONS, THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT STATUS THAN WE DO. SO I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND IN ADDITION WITH THE CHANGE WHEN I'LL GET TO THAT PART, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THE DISCUSSION THAT NOT JUST LOOKING AT CHANGING CHAPTER 2.6, BUT LOOK AT THE, THE ENTIRE CHARTER AND MAKE AND PRESENT ALL THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES UNDER CONSIDERATION. SO, SO FOR MY PART, UM, 2.60, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO HAVE NINE MEMBERS THAT ARE TERMS, WHICH IS KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE ARE PRESENTLY SERVING RIGHT NOW. AND THEN TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL TWO MEMBERS THAT ARE APPOINTED. SO THAT OVERALL WOULD BE, UM, UM, INCREASING THE COMMISSION. SO YOU WOULD HAVE SOME THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE SAY LIKE APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR OR WHOEVER. AND THEN LIKE THE REST OF US WE'RE, YOU KNOW, UH, REPRESENTING OUR DISTRICT. RIGHT. AND, AND, AND, AND, AND WE'RE SERVING TERMS. WE HAVE WHAT, THREE TERMS? IS IT THREE TERMS MAX? THE PROBLEM IS WE CAN'T GET SOMEBODY FROM EVERY DISTRICT RIGHT NOW. I, I UNDERSTAND, BUT I, I THINK, I THINK IF WE LIKE INCREASE IT, BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE, UM, AND I'LL JUST USE MYSELF AS, AS A, AS AN EXAMPLE WITH THIS PRESENT CASE, UM, SITUATION. I'M SORRY. SO MY MINDSET IS THAT WHEN WE, WHEN SOMEBODY IS TURNING OUT THAT THAT COMMISSIONER REMAINS IN PLACE UNTIL WE HAVE SOMEBODY TO REPLACE THEM RIGHT. IN THAT PARTICULAR DISTRICT. BECAUSE THAT PREVENTS US FROM BEING IN A SITUATION WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. MM-HMM . YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I THINK IT SHOULD BE, OF COURSE YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU SERVE YOUR TERM AND THEN WHEN YOUR TERM IS UP, IF THERE'S NOBODY ELSE THAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED THAT'S WILLING TO COME AND SAY LIKE, I STEP OFF. RIGHT? SO NOW THEN YOU GUYS CAN'T MEET. THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING TO BE CONSIDERED. CORRECTION. I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT'S A ONE LEVEL UP. I THINK THE LIMITS OF TERM, I THINK THE TERM LIMITS IS NOT IN THE, IN THE LITIGATION. IT DOESN'T APPLY TO WHAT I'M SAYING. IT DOESN'T APPLY TO OUR COMMISSION. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I'M SAYING THAT'S A LEVEL, THAT'S ONE LEVEL ABOVE THIS. IT'S ABOUT ALL COMMISSIONS THAT'S DEALING, ALL COMMISSIONS ARE, ARE BOUND BY HOW MANY TERMS NOT. AND WHEN YOUR TERMS RUN OUT, THAT'S BOUND BY THE CITY OF ALL COMMISSIONS. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S THE COMMISSION HANDBOOK. IT'S NOT THE VETERANS COMMISSION. IF WE CHANGE IT FOR US, THAT RIPPLES THROUGH ALL COMMISSIONS IN THE CITY. IF IT WAS JUST US, WE COULD DO JUST US. THAT'S ONE THING. MM-HMM . AND I'M NOT AGAINST THAT IDEA, BUT BECAUSE IT'S A RULE THAT COVERS ALL COMMISSIONS, I THINK THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE. OKAY. GOT IT. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YEAH. SO WHY, WHY IS IT IMPORTANT TO HAVE SOMEBODY FROM EVERY COUNCIL DISTRICT? I DON'T THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT AT ALL. FOR EXAMPLE, AND IT MAY BE THE COUNCIL THAT WILL NOT BE HAPPY ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL BECAUSE THEY LOSE CONTROL. OKAY. SO THINK, OKAY, SO THINK ABOUT THIS. I I AND I'M, AND I'M JUST PLAYING DEVIL'S ADVOCATE. SO WHEN WE GO AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR MONEY, SO NOW LET'S JUST SAY IF YOU ARE, UM, A DISTRICT AND YOU DON'T HAVE REPRESENTATION ON THERE, AND THEN NOW WE DON'T GET MONEY FROM THAT PARTICULAR DISTRICT THE WAY IT IS NOW, YOU HAVE REPRESENTATION FROM ALL DISTRICT. SO WHEN WE PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER OR IT GETS, WHEN WE'RE GETTING FUNDING FROM THE CITY IN ORDER TO PUT ON OUR EVENTS, WE'RE GETTING MONEY FROM ALL OF THOSE COUNCIL DISTRICTS POTENTIALLY. YEAH. POTENTIALLY. THAT'S WHAT I LIKE. WE DON'T GET ANY MONEY FROM THE COUNCIL. I'M JUST SAYING IN, IN THE PAST WHEN WE'VE HAD, WHEN, WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL HAVE FINANCE EVENTS, WE'VE RECEIVED MONEY FROM, WELL, I MEAN I, I'M ASSUMING, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT WE RECEIVED MONEY FROM THE POTS, FROM ALL THOSE CITY COUNCIL DISTRICTS, SOME OF THEM. MM-HMM . IT DEPENDS. SOME HAVE GIVEN, SOME HAVEN'T. SOME HAVE BEEN MORE GENEROUS THAN OTHERS. AND SOMETIMES IT, IT VARIES ON WHAT THE ELECTION YEAR IT IS, ET CETERA. SO POLITICS COMES INTO PLAY AND THE, THE RE THE REA THE ONLY REASON I'M DROPPING TO SEVEN, I'M LOOKING AT SEVEN, IS JUST MANAGEABILITY, IS TO TRY TO KEEP A REASONABLE NUMBER THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY COME UP WITH. 'CAUSE WE'VE TRIED NINE, WE'VE TRIED THIS FOR A WHILE, RIGHT. AND WE'VE NOT, WE'VE NOT SUCCEEDED AND IT HASN'T WORKED. SO NOW I'M LIKE, OKAY, HOW ARE WE GOING TO, WE NEED TO MAKE IT, WE NEED TO MAKE IT WORK SO WE HAVE AT LEAST A QUORUM SO WE CAN AT LEAST DO BUSINESS. 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'VE NOT DONE BUSINESS 25% OF THE YEAR. CORRECT. BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A QUORUM. AND IT'S NOBODY'S, IT'S NOBODY IN THIS ROOM'S FAULT, BUT IT'S WHAT HAPPENED. SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT STRAIGHT IN THE EYE AND GO, OKAY, HOW DO WE TRY? AND IF IT DOESN'T WORK, WE FIX IT. IF WE LOOK AT IT AND WE GO, OKAY, THIS WASN'T [01:25:01] A GOOD IDEA. WE TRIED IT A WHILE, IT DIDN'T WORK. WE LOOK AT IT AGAIN, LET'S TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT. BUT KEEPING, IT'S LIKE WHAT THEY SAY, DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS. INSANITY. UM, I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO MAKE A MOTION IF, IF I COULD FINISH MY RECOMMENDATION YEAH. FOR 2.6, TWO POINT, UM, 2.60. MY RECOMMENDATION IS INSTEAD OF, UH, SEVEN, TO MAKE IT NINE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO ADD, IF NOT THE OTHER PART THAT I TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, YOU CAN SCRATCH THAT. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO LOOK AT CHANGING US FROM BEING AN ADVISORY, UM, COMMISSION TO BEING A COMMISSION MORE LIKE THE, UM, THE PLANNING AND THE HARBOR COMMISSION. AND WHAT THAT DOES IS LIKE, THAT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY NOT JUST TO BE AN ADVISORY, BUT REALLY TACKLE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT VETERANS, UM, CHALLENGE AND FACE. I THINK IF WE MAKE IT MORE OF LIKE A ROBUST, THAT WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING, BUT IF WE ARE REALLY MAKING A CHANGE FOR VETERANS, THEN WE WON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH OTHERS WANTING TO STEP UP IN THE COMMUNITY TO BE PART OF THAT CHANGE. AND THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION ON THOSE TWO POINTS. UM, IN REFERENCE TO THE SECOND, THE LAST, THE LAST PART YOU MADE, UM, THAT IS A MUCH MORE COMPLICATED ISSUE. AND I THINK IT, I'M LOOKING AT SHORT TERM, MEDIUM AND LONG TERM. IN THE SHORT TERM, I WANT TO TAKE ON THE SIZE AND I WANT TO TAKE ON THE TYPE BECAUSE I WANT TO GET IT DONE. THE TYPE, THE TYPE BEING A AT LARGE VERSUS A BY COUNCIL DISTRICT. BECAUSE THAT NEEDS, IN MY VIEW, THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN LAST WEEK BECAUSE WE NEED, WE NEED MORE BODIES IN HERE. IF WE CAN GET THEM BY BEING TWO FROM THIS DISTRICT AND TWO FROM THAT DISTRICT, GREAT. WE HAVE OUR QUORUMS, WE CAN DO BUSINESS IF WE WANNA SET A COMMITTEE AND WE WANNA LOOK AT THE DETAILS OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN CHANGING THAT TYPE, BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT DEEPER BECAUSE EACH ONE OF OUR MEMBERS DIDN'T MAYBE SIGN UP FOR THAT. 'CAUSE WHAT WE SIGNED UP FOR, AND I'M NOT SAYING MYSELF EITHER WAY, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT, BUT WHAT WE SIGNED UP FOR WAS AS AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE VERSUS ANOTHER TYPE OF COMMITTEE AND TYPE OF A COMMITMENT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT. SO PLANNING AND THE HARBOR ARE BY CHARTER. THEY'RE CHARTER, RIGHT? THEY'RE CHARTER COMMISSIONS. SO, AND WE ARE NOT A CHARTER COMMISSION. SEE, THEY'D HAVE TO, YOU'D HAVE TO MAKE WHOLE CITY CHARTER. THE CITY WOULD'VE TO VOTE ON CHARTER. THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A VOTE, VOTE ON THIS. THE PEOPLE HAVE TO CHANGE THE CHARTER. THE CITY CAN'T DO IT. YEAH. YEAH. IT'S A, IT'S A CHARTER AMENDMENT IN THE ELECTION. YEP. UH, OKAY. UM, I KNOW WE HAVE ONE MORE ITEM AFTER THIS. WHO WOULD LIKE TO, WELL FIRST OF ALL, I'VE ALREADY CONTACTED THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND TALKED TO THEM ABOUT IT. YEAH. AND HER RECOMMENDATION IS, IS IF, IF YOU GO DOWN TO SEVEN HERE, HERE'S THE KICKER. BUT I, WE WILL SUFFICE IT TO SAY, WHAT I FOUND OUT IS THAT I'VE BEEN ALLOWING OUR COMMITTEES TO HAVE PEOPLE ON THEM THAT ARE NOT COMMISSIONERS AND YOU CAN'T DO THAT. SO THAT WAS MY, SO SHE SAID, DO YOU REALLY WANNA GO DOWN THE NINE? BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, IF EVERY COMMISSIONER, THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO BE ON A SUBCOMMITTEE. BUT I ENVISION THAT COMMISSIONERS AND PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE COMMUNITY CAN BE PART OF A SUBCOMMITTEE. THEY CAN'T BECAUSE WE ARE VETTED OFFICERS, SO TO SPEAK OF THE CITY BECAUSE WE DO THE FORM 700 BECAUSE WE GO THROUGH THE BACKGROUND CHECK BECAUSE WE'VE, WE'RE TRAINED IN ROBERT'S RULES. YEAH. WE CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE LET, LET'S, UM, MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT SAYS GO TO NINE. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT MAKING IT NINE INSTEAD OF SEVEN AND MAKING IT AT LARGE AT LARGE. AND I ACCEPT THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. ARE WE OKAY WITH THAT FOR NOW? AND I'M NOT AGAINST SOME OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT. I THINK WE CAN GO INTO THAT. I THINK THAT'S GOT SOME LEGS ON IT. BUT I THINK IN THE SHORT TERM, I WANT TO TRY TO GET ONE LITTLE PIECE OF IT DONE SO WE CAN GET HIM HIM ON, YOU KNOW, GET AGAINST JEFF ON HIS HORSE AND GET US SOME PEOPLE IN HERE BECAUSE IT HAS DEFINITELY NOT WORKED . BECAUSE WHAT'S, WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW ISN'T WORKING. AND I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW IT MORE THAN I DO. YOU, YOU HAVE MUCH MORE. YOU'VE HAD THE PROBLEM LONGER THAN I DO. OKAY. SO WHAT'S ON THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW? THE AMENDMENT, THE MOTION IS THAT WE REQUEST COUNSEL TO MODIFY 2.60 AND MAKE US AN AT LARGE COMMITTEE OF NINE MEMBERS WITH NO MORE THAN TWO MEMBERS PER COUNCIL DISTRICT. THAT'S IT. YEP. AND WE STILL HAVE AN UPHILL BATTLE BECAUSE THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS FEEL LIKE THE, HOW LONG DID IT TAKE THEM TO APPROVE YOU? MM, AT LEAST SIX MONTHS. IT CAN TAKE THREE. IT'S THE AVERAGE IS AROUND THREE. BUT THEY'RE [01:30:01] LOSING THAT POWER. WE'LL SEE HOW THEY REACT. YEAH. YEAH. IF IT IS ON AVERAGE AROUND, IF SOMEONE PUSHES IT, YOU CAN GET THROUGH IT AROUND THREE. IF YOU ACTUALLY RIDE IT HARD. AND I WROTE IT HARD, I DID THAT WHEN THEY GAVE ME THOSE THINGS. IT WAS LIKE THAT DAY I WAS FILLING IT OUT AND ANSWERING THEIR QUESTIONS. BUT YOU HAVE TO REALLY BE ON IT TO WANT IT TO DO IT, TO GET IT DONE. AND ON MY PART I'LL DO RESEARCH BECAUSE THE EXISTING AT LARGE COMMISSIONS, WHO VETS THEM AND WHO APPROVES THEM WHEN IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW. 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW, MAYOR, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. WE HAVE TO FIGURE THAT PART OUT STILL. THAT'S TO GO THROUGH THE SAME, IT STILL GOES THROUGH THE, IT'S GONNA GO THROUGH JEFF AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE ANYWAY. SO SOME THEY WILL COME, THEY'LL GO ONLINE FROM WHEREVER, BUT THEY WON'T SO JEFF WILL, YEAH, IT'S GONNA GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS. IT'S JUST NOT GONNA HAVE A LIMITATION THAT WE'RE ONLY LOOKING FOR DISTRICT NINE OR DISTRICT SEVEN OR DISTRICT ONE OR DISTRICT THREE OR WHATEVER. BUT WE'LL TALK TO THEM ABOUT SPEEDING THAT UP AND, AND MAYBE IT'LL BE EVEN MORE SPEEDY BECAUSE THE COUNCIL MEMBER IS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE DELAY IS, IS IF THE COUNCIL MEMBER DOESN'T KNOW THE CANDIDATE ONCE THEIR OWN PERSON OR THEY DON'T LIKE THEM. WE'VE HAD THAT A COUPLE OF TIMES. WE'VE HAD, WE'VE HAD ENEMIES OF COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE COME UP AND THEY GET THE KIBOSH 'CAUSE THEY'VE CROSSED SWORDS. THEY MYSTERIOUSLY AND THEY'LL NEVER GET PAST THAT. THIS WAY THAT THAT PIECE IS GONE. THEY COULD THAT PERSON, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL MEMBER CAN STILL CALL THE MAYOR AND SAY, HEY, I DON'T WANT THAT PERSON. OKAY. THAT STILL MIGHT HAPPEN. BUT WE'RE GONNA OPEN IT UP AND IT'S JUST GONNA BE, THE CITY IS LOOKING FOR THREE COMMISSIONERS NOW FOR THIS. AND THEY'LL TAKE APPLICATIONS INSTEAD OF SAYING, WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR ONE FROM DISTRICT SEVEN. VERY TOUGH. AND THAT'S A SMALL, THAT CUTS THE PIE DOWN. NOT TO MENTION THE DISTRICTS CHANGE EVERY 10 YEARS. YEAH. WHICH DISTRICT ARE YOU FROM? YEAH. LOOK AT YOUR MAP, MAKE SURE, OKAY, SO THAT'S, I'M GONNA REREAD THE, I'M GONNA REREAD THE, I CAN READ IT BACK. THE MOTION IS IS THAT A REQUEST BE MADE TO COUNCIL TO MODIFY 2.60 TO MAKE US, WHICH IS THE ENABLING LEGISLATION FOR THE VETERANS COMMISSION THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2016 TO MAKE US AN AT LARGE COMMISSION. UH, OF THE INITIAL MOTION WAS FOR SEVEN MEMBERS. THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT IS, IS TO GO TO NINE BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT, WELL THAT'S NOT PART OF THE MOTION THAT COMMITTEES HAVE TO BE COMMISSIONERS. RIGHT. THAT WAS NO, THE COMMITTEES WAS A SEPARATE ISSUE. OKAY. THAT'S SOMETHING YOU LEARNED THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA DO ANYMORE. THAT'S JUST A LESSON LEARNED FOR US THAT WILL NOW WE KNOW DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PART OF THE, THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS DISCUSSION. OKAY? MM-HMM . SO THAT'S THE MOTION. THAT'S A GOOD LESSON LEARNED. IT'S THE, IT'S THE MOTION IS WE'RE GOING ASK THEM TO, TO CHANGE 2.6. WAS IT 2.6? 2.60. 2.60. THAT WE WILL BECOME AN AT LARGE COMMISSION WITH NINE MEMBERS AND NO MORE THAN TWO MEMBERS FOR ANY COUNCIL DISTRICT. YEAH. THAT'S IT. THAT'S THE MOTION ON THE TABLE. SECOND, WE'VE HAD OUR DISCUSSION. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT TO THIS? OKAY, I DONE THE DISCUSSION. OH, I'M SORRY. MY, MY, BUT UM, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, SO WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THE REST OF THAT THAT WE KIND OF TABLED? ARE WE PUTTING THAT, ARE WE SQUIRRELING THAT AWAY FOR ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM? I, WE'LL PUT THAT AS AN AGENDA ITEM ON NEXT MONTH'S AGENDA AND WE WILL TALK, WE WILL LEAVE IT AS MAYBE WE CREATED A SUBCOMMITTEE TO DISCUSS THAT SPECIFICALLY AND LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN CHANGE. 'CAUSE I'M OPEN TO LOOKING AT THE WHOLE BANANA. 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS IN OUR CHARTER THAT WE DON'T DO THAT WE SHOULD JUST TAKE OUT OF THERE. 'CAUSE WE'RE NEVER GOING TO DO THEM. SO WHY DO WE KEEP TELLING EVERYBODY THAT WE DO 'EM? OKAY. I'M, I'M ABOUT HONESTY. LET'S, LET'S CUT, LET'S, LET'S TELL PEOPLE WHAT WE PLAN TO DO AND THAT'S IT. AND ALL THAT OTHER HAPPY STUFF THAT WE THOUGHT WE MIGHT GET TO DO IF WE HAD A STAFF OF 20 FULL-TIMERS, MAYBE , BUT WE DON'T. SO UNTIL THEY GIVE US ALL THAT MONEY AND ALL THOSE FULL-TIMERS. SO IF YOU CAN PUT THAT FUTURE, IF YOU CAN PUT THAT ON OUR AGENDA FOR NEXT MONTH FUTURE. YES. I JUST WANT IT TO BE FORMAL. OH YEAH. I'M, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO PUT THAT AS AN AGENDA AND WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. COOL. AND YOU AND I'LL TALK ABOUT IT. WE'LL SEE HOW WE WORD IT. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA PUT ON THERE AND WE'LL, WE'LL CREATE IT. OKAY. OKAY. WE HAVE A SECOND. UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS. GREAT. AND NOW THE LAST ONE, THIS IS ONE I CAME UP WITH AND I JUST WANT TO, UM, THIS IS RECOMMENDATION. RECEIVE AND FILE A DISCUSSION RECOMMEND. AND WE CAN, I WANNA PUT TOGETHER MAYBE A COUPLE PEOPLE TO TALK ABOUT THIS. IS TO RECOMMEND COUNCIL, PUT FORWARD A, A, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY CALL IT, WHERE THE COUNCIL PUTS A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR SOMETHING. THEY PUT A DECLARATION OR MM-HMM . [01:35:01] FOR DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE NATION FOR OUR VA AND THEIR FUNDING AND THEIR JOBS. BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, THIS IS, AND WE DON'T, THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION. SO WE DON'T, WE DON'T NEED TO VOTE ON THIS. UM, WE'LL MAKE IT QUICK. WHAT I LEARNED, AND I LEARNED THIS THROUGH MY OWN EXPERIENCE, THEY WERE BASICALLY GONNA FIRE PEOPLE AND THEY'RE, THEY WANT, WHILE THEY'RE SITTING THERE, THEIR JOB IS ON. INDEED. THEIR OWN SUPERVISOR TOLD THEM, YOU MIGHT SEE YOUR JOB ON INDEED WHILE YOU'RE SITTING HERE. 'CAUSE THEY WERE LOOKING AT OUTSOURCING A FAIR PIECE OF OUR VA SERVICES TO PRIVATE COMPANIES. THEY COULD, AT THIS POINT, THEY COULDN'T OUTSOURCE THE WHOLE BANANA, BUT THEY COULD OUTSOURCE CERTAIN PARTS OF IT. AND THEY WERE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT THROUGH THE ASKING PEOPLE TO RETIRE, YOU KNOW, TAKE THE BUYOUTS TO LEAVE. AND THEN THEY CHANGED THEIR MIND AND SAID, NO, WE DON'T, BUT WE NEED, I WOULD LIKE LONG BEACH OR THE CITY AND THE MAYOR TO SAY, HEY, WE SUPPORT OUR VA IN SOME KIND OF LANGUAGE PUBLICLY AND STAND FOR ALL THE SERVICES THEY DO, ALL THE SUPPORT FOR THE HOMELESS THAT THEY DO AND WHAT WE, WHAT WHAT IT WOULD COST OUR CITY. IF EVER THEY STOP SUPPORTING ALL THE PEOPLE THAT THEY DO AND ALL THE GOOD THAT THEY'RE DOING FOR US. YOU KNOW, TO REALLY STAND WITH THEM BECAUSE THEY CAN'T TALK. ALL THE PEOPLE THERE ARE SCARED. THEY CAN'T SAY BOO BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID OF LOSING THEIR JOBS. THEY'RE ALL WORKING KIND OF HOPING FOR THE BEST HEADS DOWN AND, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED SOMEONE TO SPEAK FOR 'EM. IT'S A RESOLUTION I THINK THE COUNCIL YES. A RESOLUTION. THAT'S THE WORD. YEAH. WHAT IS THE THING YOU WANNA A RESOLUTION WHERE, WHERE THEY MAKE A STATEMENT AND THE WHOLE COUNCIL APPROVES IT AS, I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A VOLUNTEER TO HELP ME WRITE THAT LETTER OR TO GET STARTED ON THAT LETTER. BECAUSE WE CAN TAKE THIS ALL THE WAY TO COUNCIL, PRESENT IT AND HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT IT IT AND HAVE COUNSEL APPROVE IT. BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. WE START BY. RIGHT. I I ALSO TALKED TO THE CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT THIS. WE WRITE A LETTER SAYING WE THE LONG BEACH VETERANS COMMISSION SUPPORT OUR, OUR LONG BEACH VA. WE'RE NOT EVEN TOUCHING ALL THE VAS AND, AND THE FEDERAL LEVER. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE VA THAT'S RIGHT HERE. YEAH. WE WANT IT TO REMAIN WHOLLY INTACT JOBS WISE, FUNDING WISE. SO WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO WRITE THAT LETTER IF THE CITY MANAGER REVIEWS IT, AND THEN THAT'S THE CITY MANAGER'S DECISION TO TAKE IT BEFORE THE WHOLE CANCEL. SO THE FIRST STEP IS TO WRITE THAT LETTER, BUT I'D LIKE SOMEONE TO SAY, HEY, I I'M ON THE RIDE, I'M ON THE JOURNEY TO, TO HELP YOU WITH THAT LETTER. I CAN HELP YOU WITH THE LETTER. AND THEN LIKE WHAT, UM, IS THERE SOME OTHER LEGISLATION, SOME OTHER AT THIS POINT, SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE, AND, AND, AND I'M JUST SAYING LIKE, WHAT ELSE ARE WE GONNA PUT BEHIND TO, YOU KNOW, TO KIND OF GARNER SUPPORT BEHIND THAT? I MEAN, WAS THERE LIKE A LACK OF FUNDING FOR A DEPARTMENT OR I'M JUST ASKING. WELL, IT'S WHAT I JUST SAID. THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRYING, THEY'RE INTERNALLY TRYING TO PRIVATIZE AND IT'S MAYBE WE TAKE THE SAME LETTER TO, TO COUNT CON OUR CONGRESSMAN. MM-HMM . YEAH. AND THROW IT, YOU KNOW, CHANNEL IT THROUGH OUR STATE, CHANNEL IT THROUGH, ONCE IT GETS PASSED OUR CITY, WE FOCUS IT TOWARDS OUR ASSEMBLY, OUR LOCAL ASSEMBLY AND OUR LOCAL SENATOR. AND MAYBE WE GET IT, MAYBE WE GET THIS THING TO GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH OUR, YOU KNOW, THROUGH CONGRESSMAN GARCIA AND HIS PEOPLE. BUT IT, THAT'S WHAT WAS CLEAR FROM THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS THAT IT STARTS WITH US AND LOCAL. AS SOON AS IT GOES TO OTHER LEVELS, IT HAS TO COME FROM THE COUNCIL. YEAH. WE GET IT THROUGH COUNCIL THEN COUNT. WE ENCOURAGE OUR COUNCIL TO PUSH IT ON THROUGH AND IT'S, IT'S ALL WE REALLY CAN AT THIS POINT. IT'S WHAT WE CAN DO. THERE'S NO, BECAUSE IT'S FEDERAL, IT'S OUT OF OUR HANDS. BUT WE CAN AT LEAST RAISE OUR LITTLE FISTS AND SAY, HEY, WE, WE DON'T LIKE THIS. AND WE AS WE AS VOTERS DON'T LIKE THIS. AND WE, WE SUPPORT THEM. THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. EVERYBODY SAYS NASTY THINGS ABOUT THE VAS AND HOW BAD THEY ARE AND HOW HORRIBLE THEY ARE AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND WE RAISE OUR VOICE SAYING NO THEY'RE NOT. I GO THERE, THEY'RE FOUR OR FIVE TIMES A MONTH AND I'VE HAD ALL THE INSURANCE YOU CAN HAVE IN THE WORLD. GOLD PLATED CEDAR SIGN AND ALL OF 'EM. AND THEY'RE BETTER THAN ALL OF 'EM. AND WE NEED TO HAVE OUR VOICE RAISED TO SUPPORT THEM. SO PEOPLE GET THAT. THIS ONE HERE IS A REALLY GOOD ONE. YOU SHOULD LEAVE IT ALONE 'CAUSE IT'S REALLY SERVING OUR VETERANS IN DOING A GOOD JOB. AN ANTOINETTE, YOU OFFERED TO HELP. SO WE'LL, WE'LL DRAFT SOMETHING UP. OKAY. BECAUSE YOU WORK FOR THE VA. YES. I I DO. YOU JUST CAN'T PUT YOUR NAME ON IT. . BUT SHE'S AT, SHE'S AT A UM, YOU'RE LIKE A REGIONAL LEVEL, NOT MORTGAGE. YEAH. [01:40:01] I WANNA GET YOU IN TROUBLE. YEAH. I MEAN I SHE'S NOT GONNA SIGN IT. I, I MEAN I WOULDN'T GET IN TROUBLE ANYWAY. YEAH. BUT, UM, UH, I WAS GONNA ASK YOU THE DETAILS OF WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR FOR THAT LETTER. DOES IT REQUIRE RESEARCH? ARE WE DIGGING UP OR WE CAN WRITE A DRAFT OR SOMETHING AND THEN FIND A FEW SUPPORTING THINGS? LIKE, OR YOU COULD ALSO LOOK AT EXISTING RESOLUTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT OUT THAT ARE SIMILAR. SO THAT'LL KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA. LIKE THE, WHEREAS WHO HAS ALL THAT LANGUAGE THEY USE THE RESOLUTIONS ALWAYS HAVE A THEIR, THEY HAVE A FORMAT. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING. IT SORT OF LOOKS LIKE A CERTAIN WAY AND THAT'S WHAT THEY LOOK, THAT'S JUST THE WAY THEY, IT'S LIKE LAWYERS, RIGHT. THEY TALK A CERTAIN WAY, BUT IT MAY NOT EVEN BE COMPLICATED. I THINK THE SUPPORT AND THE RESEARCH IS LIKE, LIKE WHAT TYPE OF INITIATIVES DO WE WANNA FOCUS ON? AND WE KNOW, AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE BEEN CHAMPIONING, YOU KNOW, HOMELESSNESS FOR VETERANS HERE, BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, WHAT ELSE BESIDES, YOU KNOW, LIKE LET'S JUST SAY, UM, SOME OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONS THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T WANNA HAVE OTHER COMMISSIONS OR OTHER PEOPLE ASKING THEM TO DRIVE RESOLUTIONS. I MEAN I'M FOR IT. I'M JUST SAYING WHAT ELSE IS GOING ON THAT WE WANNA, UH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF PUT SOME, SOME TEETH BEHIND, LIKE OUTSIDE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. WHAT ELSE IS DRIVING, YOU KNOW, THE UM, FOR US ASKING FOR RESOLUTION. THAT'S WHY I'M JUST THINKING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX. WHAT'S DRIVING IT IS IT'S EXPERIENCES I'VE HAD. IT'S MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AND I THOUGHT I'D BRING IT UP AND IT'S THINGS I'VE SEEN HAVING BEEN ON THE COUNT ON THE CAMPUS A LOT. AND I JUST THINK, I JUST THINK IT CAN'T HURT FOR LONG BEACH AS A CITY TO RAISE ITS VOICE FOR SOMETHING THAT'S SO CENTRAL TO OUR CITY AND OUR PEOPLE. AND WHETHER IT CHANGES ANYTHING OR NOT, WHO KNOWS. BUT IT IS JUST A CHANCE FOR US AS A CITY TO RAISE OUR VOICE. MM-HMM . IN SUPPORT OF SOMETHING SO IMPORTANT TO US IN SO MANY WAYS AND SO MANY SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDE AS A WHOLE. WE CAN'T COVER 'EM ALL. WE'LL WE'LL PICK A FEW TO TALK ABOUT THAT WE KNOW ABOUT. EVEN LIKE THE, THE HOUSING THEY GIVE FOR THE FAMILIES WHO HAVE PEOPLE IN THE, THE CARE, YOU KNOW, LONG TERM CARE IN THE SPINAL. THE FISHER HOUSE. THE FISHER HOUSE WHERE THEY GIVE 'EM FREE HOUSING AT THE FISHER HOUSE WHILE THEIR FAMILY MEMBER IS OVER HERE IN THE SPINAL CARE. SO THEY CAN GET OUT OF THERE QUICKER BECAUSE FAMILY MEMBERS ARE STAYING HERE AND SUPPORTING THEM. YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GOOD THAT NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT IN THIS, IN THE WORLD THAT THEY'RE DOING THAT REALLY HELPS OUR VETERANS WHO GOT HURT GET OUT AND GET HELP AND WE'RE HELPING PUBLICIZE THE GOOD THEY'RE DOING. RATHER THAN I HAD TO WAIT THREE WEEKS FOR MY APPOINTMENT. WELL TRY IT ON KAISER . YEAH. GOOD LUCK. IF I MAY, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT ALSO IN THAT RESOLUTION THAT ONE OF THOSE UM, STATEMENTS THAT YOU, THAT UM, THAT THERE IS REFERENCE TO WOMEN VETERANS. YEAH. WOMEN VETERANS BEING THE LARGEST, YOU KNOW, GROWING POPULATION AND FACE OF THE VETERAN POPULATION. I WOULD LIKE FOR ONE OF THOSE WHEREAS CLAUSES AND STATEMENTS TO SPECIFICALLY YEAH. CALL OUT AND ADDRESS THE NEED FOR WOMEN VETERANS. ABSOLUTELY. AND LONG BEACH VA HAS A WOMEN'S VETERAN CLINIC SPECIFICALLY, CORRECT? EXACTLY. SO MAYBE, UM, MAYBE FOCUS ON LIKE THE HEALTHCARE BUILDING. YEAH. NOT JUST THE WOMEN BUT ALSO LIKE WITH THE UM, CONTINUING FOR THAT AMAZING WOMEN'S CLINIC SPECIALTY CLINICS FOR EVERYTHING. THEY HAVE A-P-T-S-D CLINIC SPECIALIZING IN THAT. MM-HMM . DIABETIC CARE, VA LONG BEACH IS ONE OF THE TOP RESEARCH PLACES FOR THAT. CORRECT. THE GANGLION BLOCK FOR PTSD, THE INJECTION. MM-HMM . THAT CAME OFF OF SHINGLES RESEARCH AND LIKE THE THIRTIES AND LONG BEACH GAVE IS THE FIRST IN THE COUNTRY TO DO IT. OH, THAT'S WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED SOMETHING AND THAT'S SOMETHING PARTY WITH ALL THESE IDEAS, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS ARE, IF WE DO IT UNDER QUORUM FOUR OF US, WE COULD DO THIS AT A BAR. SERIOUSLY. THAT'LL BE A LOT QUICKER NEEDS. YEAH. I THINK, I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA TO DO TECHNICALLY, YOU KNOW, IDEAS AT SO, SO, SO IT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, GO TO COMMISSION AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE, WHAT IS IT, LIKE A, WHAT IS IT LIKE A RFF OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? T-F-F-T-F. IT COULD, IT COULD END UP BEING A TFF. YES. I HAVE TO LOOK AT MY NOTES FROM THE ATTORNEY. THAT'S A TWO FOUR FROM MEMO THAT GOES TO THE CITY MANAGER AND THE COUNCIL OFFICES. IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE A RESOLUTION STYLE. IT CAN BE WE, THE OFF THE, THE VETERANS COMMISSION, UH, YOU KNOW, ARE STATING THAT WE SUPPORT THE WHOLE AND INTACT NATURE OF THE VET, THE, THIS AMAZING HOSPITAL AND NOT TO MENTION THE HISTORY OF IT. YEAH. BUT WE, WE, WHATEVER WE DO, WE WANT TO GET WHATEVER VERSION GETS US THE MOST PUBLICITY FOR THEM AND GETS IT ONTO THE NEXT LEVEL AND TRIES TO PUSH IT UP THROUGH THE RIGHT CHAIN OF OUR GOVERNMENT. YEAH. SO THAT IT, WE, OUR VOICE IS HEARD ALL THE WAY THROUGH SACRAMENTO, THROUGH TO WASHINGTON, WHETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT. WOULD IT BE TOO EARLY TO MENTION THIS TO OUR COUNCIL PERSON? YOU WOULD WANT WAIT WHILE [01:45:01] PROBABLY WE PROBABLY WANNA GET A SOLID DRAFT TOGETHER. MARY HOUSE IS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF VETERANS. YEAH. ARE WE GONNA PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MONTH OR? WELL, WE, WE HAVE TO DO THIS AS A RECEIVING FILE RIGHT NOW. SORRY. OKAY. SO WHO IS GONNA PUT A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE? 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT SAYING WE'RE WRITING THE LETTER NEXT WEEK. WE'RE JUST SAYING YEAH, WE'RE STARTING A PROCESS. I MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND CAN YOU SECOND I'LL SECOND IT. OKAY. THAT'S FINE. UM, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS? ARE WE, I THINK WE COMMENT, WE COMMENTED, WE'D BE COMMENTED ON. ALRIGHT. UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY A, A OPPOSED ABSTENTIONS. GOOD. WE'RE GOOD. AND, AND AT THE END, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT IN GENERAL FROM OUR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO'S DECIDED TO JOIN US TONIGHT? I HOPE YOU OUR MEETING , I FOUND IT INTERESTING. ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? YEAH. NO, I, I SPOKE AT, UH, MARY AND DEJAS UH, UH, DISTRICT MEETING LAST WEEK AND JOHN FROM LONG BEACH POST WAS THERE AND HE CAME UP TO ME AFTER THE MEETING AND HE WAS ASKING THIS VERY QUESTION ALMOST. HE WAS SAYING, WHAT DO YOU HEAR ABOUT, UH, WELL, WHAT, WHAT WAS YOUR, WHAT WAS YOUR, YOUR QUESTION, JOHN? YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT I ACTUALLY CAN'T COMMENT DURING OH, YOU CAN'T, OKAY. I REALLY, I REALLY CAN'T. ANYWAY, HE, HE, HE WAS ASKING, UH, HOW THE LOCAL VETERANS WERE BEING AFFECTED BY, YOU KNOW, THE PERSONNEL CUTS, YOU KNOW, IN THE ADMINISTRATION. AND SO I MENTIONED TO HIM THAT WERE THAT WE HAVE MEETINGS HERE ON WEDNESDAY, ON WEDNESDAYS, AND HERE HE IS SO WELL I COOL. I CAN TELL YOU HOW THEIR EMPLOYEES ARE BEING AFFECTED BY WHAT'S GOING ON. FEAR. I NEVER WANNA KNOW . OKAY. UM, THAT'S ALL WE'VE GOT FOR TONIGHT. UM, OH, WE CAN DO FUTURE AGENDA BEFORE YOU ADJOURN. OH, SURE. ANY, NO, YOU GUYS, I MEAN, JUST BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S NOT IN THIS YEAH. TEMPLATE THAT GINA HAS. ANY, ANY FUTURE AGENDAS FOR NEXT MONTH WE NEED TO PUT ON THERE? DID WE ALREADY DID? WE'VE GOT THE ONE YOU HAD ANYTHING ELSE? YES. ALSO, LIKE FOR A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM, UH, WHICH WE DID EARLIER IS TO HAVE A, UM, IS TO HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE, OF THE HOUSING. STEVE WAS GONNA BE HERE TONIGHT. HE WAS MY FAULT. AND WE INVITED HIM TO STAY, BUT HE, HE, WE LET HIM GO. THAT'S FINE. YEAH. SO TO HAVE AN UPDATE, UM, ON THE RECENT CHANGES. THE RECENT CHANGES, UM, AND TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, UM, WHAT DID HE SAY? APPROVING WHAT? UM, TAKING SUPPORT UNDER CONSIDERATION. EXCUSE ME. ARE YOU GONNA SAY ABOUT THAT? REVISING THE CHARTER? MM-HMM . GONNA PUT THAT, IS THAT NO, NO, THEY ALREADY DIDN'T. WE ALREADY ESTABLISHED. DO YOU HAVE THAT DOWN AS A CHART? AS A, AS A, AS A ANOTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEM IS TO, UM, DISCUSS REVAMPING THE VETERANS COMMISSION'S CHARTER. YEAH. TO INCLUDE SOMETHING ABOUT CHANGING FROM A, UM, FROM AN ADVISORY TO A, UM, TO A CHARTER COMMISSION. AND I THINK THAT'S THE CHANCES NEEDED FOR US AND THE TERM TERM RIGHT. TO ALLOW PERSON TO STAY ON UNTIL THEY ARE REPLACED. YEAH. AND THE TERM, THAT'S MORE OF THE LONG TERM. YES. BUT YES. OKAY. WE COULD LOOK AT THAT. IT'LL BE A, MAYBE A DISCUSSION. YEAH. THAT, THAT BE, THAT'D BE ANOTHER. GIMME A DISCUSSION WITH UM, J EXCUSE ME. OR MAYBE, UM, . YEAH, EITHER ONE. IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA BE OKAY. WE'RE GONNA HAVE, THEY'RE GONNA START CLOSING THE BUILDING DOWN AT A MOMENT, GETTING YOUR OLD GAME OF FIVE, 15 MINUTES. SO WE HAVE ALL OF OUR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. SO THAT IS, WE HAVEN'T PUT IT ON, ON THE, UH, THE, WE'RE GONNA TAKE, THEY'LL BE THE ONES TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT. RIGHT. WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA TAKE ON THE NINE MEMBER AT LARGE THING THAT WE DISCUSSED, LIKE POSSIBLY REVIEW A LETTER BY NEXT THING. UH, WE CAN REVIEW, UH, THE THING THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, WHICH IS THE, UH, THE SUPPORT OF THE BBA. YES. OKAY. UM, THE STEVE HOMAN AND HOUSING PROJECT SUPPORT LETTER, ET CETERA. SO THE SAME THINGS HERE, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL COME TO THE NEXT AGENDA. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, THIS IS JUST AN OF THE REMINDER OF THE 5K STEP FOR VETS RUN, WALK, ROLL, ROLL. SUNDAY, MAY 25TH. AND THAT'S THE ONLY ANNOUNCEMENT THAT I HAVE. AND THEN I HOPE TO SEE YOU STOP BY THE JOB FAIR. AND THEN OF COURSE, UM, OUR OWN EVENT COMING UP ON JUNE. ALRIGHT. DO YOU WANNA CLOSE IT UP, KEN? WHAT'S THAT? YOU WANNA ADJOURN THE MEETING? * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.