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A ROLL CALL PLEASE? HERE WE GO.ALRIGHT, WE'RE JUST DOING ROLL CALL AND THEN I, WE HAVE, UH, I WILL PASS THIS OVER.
UH, DO WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER CINDY ALLEN, VICE CHAIR PRESENT AND COUNCIL MEMBER DARRYL
HERE WE, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER OR ALTERNATE MEMBER? COUNCIL MEMBER ULA.
SO WE'LL GET INTO THE REGULAR AGENDA.
SO ITEM ONE IS THE MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING, WHICH ARE ATTACHED.
AND I HAVE A MOTION, SO MOVE AND A SECOND.
WITHOUT OBJECTION, AB SUSTAIN.
DO WE NEED TO DO ROLL CALL FOR EACH ITEM OR WITHOUT OBJECTION'S? FINE.
WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE MINUTES ARE BUT AN ABSTENTION.
SO ABSTENTION MARK, JUST MARK EVERYBODY AS A YES.
DO WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT FOR AGENDA ITEM TWO, JUST TO AUTHORIZE STAFF TO SELL EQUIPMENT OR PARTS.
LET'S JUST DO WITHOUT OBJECTION.
UM, ITEM THREE, RECOMMEND TO RECEIVE THE ADOPT AND FILE OUR STATUS REPORT.
DO WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT ON THAT ITEM? WE DO.
IT'S, UM, INCLUDED WITH THE AGENDA PACKAGE.
UM, I CAN KIND OF READ THROUGH THAT OR, UM, JUST TO KIND OF GIVE A QUICK STATUS ON, ON SEARCH.
UM, SO SOME KEY UPDATES, UH, FROM THE LAST MEETING, UM, REGARDING POST DECOMMISSIONING AND ONGOING OPERATIONAL ACTIVITIES.
UM, CITY STAFF DOES CONTINUE TO WORK WITH BANZA TO RECONCILE, UM, OUR FINAL CHARGES AND, UH, DECOMMISSIONING RELATED EXPENSES.
WHILE WE'RE STILL OVERSEEING ONGOING SITE OPERATIONS, PRETTY MINIMAL, BUT, YOU KNOW, SECURITY, UM, CERTAIN, UM, ONGOING COMPLIANCE ACTIVITIES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
CURRENT EFFORTS AND EXPENSES INCLUDE, UH, JUST AS NAMES THOSE REGULATORY EXPENSES AND, UM, ALL MAINTENANCE OF SOME ACTIVE ACTIVE SYSTEMS FOR OUR SEWER OPERATIONS.
AND ALSO PREPARATORY WORK NECESSARY FOR DEMOLITION.
UH, AS FAR AS THE DEMO PLANNING AND BID RELEASE, UM, AND RFP WAS RELEASED FOR DEMOLITION SERVICES EARLIER THIS YEAR, BUT SUBSEQUENTLY IT HAD TO GET CANCELED FOLLOWING A COMPLAINT.
UM, AND SOME CONCERNS REGARDING OUR CITY CHARTER'S AUTHORITY TO UTILIZE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL PROCESS FOR DEMOLITION.
SO, UM, CITY WILL NOW BE MOVING FORWARD UNDER AN INVITATION TO BID PROCESS AND ANTICIPATE SEEKING BOARD APPROVAL FOR AWARD AND EXECUTION OF THAT CONTRACT IN EARLY 2026.
ANY ADDITIONAL USES COME TO LIGHT FOR THE SITE? UM, SO AS FAR AS FUTURE USE IS CONCERNED, UM, WE DID SEND OUT A, UH, MEMORANDUM TO THE CITY MANAGER 'CAUSE UM, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS THE SITE CURRENTLY OWNED UNDER THE JPA WOULD REVERT BACK TO THE CITY FOR OWNER AS OWNERSHIP.
SO THE CITY IS GOING OUT AND LOOKING AT, UM, ALTERNATIVE USES.
UM, WE ARE STILL LOOKING TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, SOME TYPE OF SALARIES PROCESS, PROPOSED ORGANICS IS WHAT WE'RE THINKING.
A PROPOSED ORGANICS FACILITY AT THE SURF SITE.
UM, UH, UNFORTUNATELY WE, WE HAD AWARDED SOMEBODY BYNG DEATH CODE.
THEY WITHDREW FROM NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE CITY, UM, DUE TO SOME UNFORESEEN LIKE PERMITTING CHALLENGES AND UNCERTAINTY IN SECURING THAT, UM, THOSE VOLUMES OR FEEDSTOCK VOLUMES.
AND SO, UM, MEANTIME, YOU KNOW, STAFF HAS PERFORMED WHAT WE CALL A MARKET SOUNDING STUDY OR EFFORT TO KIND OF LIKE, UH, UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE MARKET AND BASED ON THOSE FINDINGS, UM, WHAT WE RECOMMEND, UH, WE RECOMMENDED IN THAT MEMO, A RELEASE OF A REVISED RFP THAT'LL BE, UM, HAVE, UH, SORRY, WILL BE RELEASED IN FALL OF 2025.
UM, AND, UH, TAKING ALL OF THOSE QUESTIONS LEARNED FROM THAT MARKET SOUNDING, WE'RE GONNA NARROW THE SCOPE, UM, MAKE SURE THAT IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH CITY COLLECTED ORGANIC MATERIAL.
NOW THAT WE'RE ROLLING OUT THAT, UM, PROGRAM HERE, WE'RE MOSTLY DONE.
UM, WE HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT IS COMING THROUGH AND UM, ALSO
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WE WANT SOMEBODY WHO HAS CALIFORNIA EXPERIENCE FIRE DUG CODE WAS FROM THE EAST COAST AND SO THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND ENVIRONMENTAL RULES AS WELL.UM, AT THE SCENE OR THE PERMITTING TIME OR THE PERMITTING TIMELINES, THEY DID A PROJECT IN GEORGIA FOR SIX, IN SIX MONTHS.
THEY FOUND OUT THEY WERE GONNA BE FIVE YEARS IN CALIFORNIA.
AND O OBVIOUSLY THERE'S STILL, YOU KNOW, SERVED, SERVED THE PURPOSE.
SO THERE IS THAT BLACK BIN TRASH THAT WE STILL WANNA ADDRESS IN SOME WAY.
SO WE'RE STILL EXPLORING SOME STRATEGIES ON HOW WE CAN MANAGE THAT SIDE OF THE BASE INSTEAD OF HAULING INTO LANDFILL.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO PUT THOSE EFFORTS IN.
UM, ANOTHER UPDATE IS IN REGARDS TO THE JPA AGREEMENT ITSELF.
WE ARE EXTENDING IT IN ADDITIONAL TWO YEARS.
UM, SO IS THERE URGENCY TO DEMOLISH IT IF THE NEW USE ISN'T FOUND? WE HAVEN'T FOUND SOMEONE TO DEMOLISH IT.
LIKE IS THERE EMERGENCY, THERE IS A COST TO KEEP IT IN THIS, UM, WHAT YOU CALL LIKE A, UH, INACTIVE STATE.
AND SO, UM, THE FASTER YOU DEMOLISH THEN YOU DON'T HAVE THAT, THAT COST GOT IT.
MONTHLY AND WE HAVE SITE SECURITY THERE.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THINGS GOING ON THAT JUST, IT'S A PRETTY PRICEY MONTHLY BURN RATE, SO IT'S BEST TO GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY AND HAVE IT, UH, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY, BASICALLY JUST A VACANT LOT AND THERE'S REALLY NO NEW USE IDENTIFIED FOR THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, SO IT'S JUST BEST TO GET RID OF IT AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.
WE, WE, WE'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE APPROACH US LIKE FOR A BATTERY STORAGE ENDEAVOR OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
THINGS THAT DON'T ALIGN WITH THE ABILITY TO USE OUR SOLID WASTE PERMIT AND, AND, AND BETTER USES OF THE SITE.
SO PEOPLE HAVE APPROACHED US WITH THAT.
THAT HAPPENS TO BE AN AREA WHERE THEY HAVE SOME, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE WORK TO DO SOME STUFF WITH HYDROGEN, UH, EITHER REFUELING OR SOME KIND OF SITE THERE.
BUT I THINK OUR INTENT IS THOSE PROBABLY HAVE MINIMAL REVENUE GENERATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE, FOR THE CITY.
AND WE'D LIKE TO BUY SOMETHING THAT ONE ADDRESSES OUR ORGANICS ISSUE, BUT TWO, PROVIDE A BETTER, UH, LONG TERM REVENUE, STRUCTURAL REVENUE STREAM THAN SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE, JUST WHEN PEOPLE FIND OUT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A VACANT LOT, UH, THEY THINK THEY, THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S VERY LITTLE LAND DOWN THERE.
BUT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE IT MAXIMIZE THE VALUE FOR THE CITY.
IS THERE ANY, UM, SECURITY ISSUES AROUND THAT AREA? I THINK WHEN YOU HAVE A KIT LOCK OR ABANDONED BUILDINGS, THERE'S ALWAYS A SECURITY ISSUE, BUT SPECIFIC I KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT IS THERE, DO, ARE WE HAVING ANY SECURITY PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW WITH THAT IN THAT AREA? WE, WE HAD ONE ATTEMPT THEFT OF SOME WIRING, UH, EARLIER AND THEN THERE WAS ONE, UH, HOMELESS PERSON THAT WAS JUST WANDERING AROUND, UH, IN, IN THE FACILITY ITSELF.
IT TENDS TO BE IN A, IN A HIGHLY ISOLATED AREA THOUGH.
SO SPECIFICALLY NO, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN AT ANY TIME IN THE FUTURE WE COULDN'T.
SO YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT.
I MEAN, YOU REMEMBER FOUNTAIN THINGS IN URBAN AREAS GET PEOPLE GET IN THERE IMMEDIATELY AND WE FIGURED THAT WOULD HAPPEN HERE.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS WORRIED ABOUT, BUT OKAY.
I THINK THE REASON IS 'CAUSE WE KIND OF LEARNED FROM THOSE LESSONS AND UM, WE SURE THEY WERE THERE FROM THE BEGINNING.
WE HAVE A LOT OF SECURITY CAMERAS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S FIRE STATIONS ACROSS THE STREET.
UM, WE HAVE HARBOR PATROL THAT GOES AROUND THE AREA PRETTY REGULARLY, SO, AND WE HAVE ON ONSITE SECURITY, UH, DURING THE NIGHT AND, AND SO FORTH.
SO, AND RIGHT NOW, 2013 WE'RE STILL OUT THERE.
AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THAT ALL GOES AWAY.
WE WERE STILL SPENDING 20,000 A MONTH.
I COULDN'T, I JUST FOUND OUT TODAY FOR OUR ELECTRIC BILL OUT THERE.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOU GET RID OF THOSE COSTS, IT REALLY KEEP, YEAH.
AND THAT'S REALLY, AND THAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, STANDARD, UH, ELECTRIC SERVICE THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH, WE, WE JUST HAD THE SUBSTATION REMOVED, SO, UH, THERE'S NO HIGH VOLTAGE, UH, USAGE THERE AT ALL.
OH, I WANTED TO RAISE MY HAND.
SO I DIDN'T RAISE IT ON THE FIRST MATTER, BUT IT IS RELATED TO, UM, SECURING THE SITE OVERALL.
SO AS WE MOVE TOWARDS HAVING, UH, BUYERS IN, I THINK THAT THAT MIGHT BE AN AREA OF VULNERABILITY IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, AUTHORIZED FOLKS ARE ACCESSING THE FACILITIES BEING CLOSED UP PROPERLY AND IN THE SAME WAY.
UM, AND TO THE EXTENT THAT ANYTHING ELSE FROM A LIABILITY STANDPOINT, ANYBODY WHO'S COMING ON SITE AND IS CARTING AWAY, ANYTHING THAT THEY'VE PURCHASED, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'VE GOT, WE'VE COVERED, WE'RE COVERED FROM A LIABILITY LIABILITY PERSPECTIVE.
SO I THINK BOTH SECURITY AND LIABILITY SHOULD BE CONSIDERED OKAY.
UM, AND THEN YOU JUST DESCRIBED, UH, IF WE TAKE DOWN, UM, THE, UH, FACILITY, UM, I WOULD, I, I WOULD THINK THOUGH, EVEN IF WE, IT'S AN EMPTY SITE AT SOME POINT, IF WOULDN'T, WE WOULDN'T MIND HAVING SOME USE THERE IN SOME INTERIM CAPACITY.
IT COULD TAKE A NUMBER OF YEARS, BUT WE, AND WE'VE BEEN, I'LL GIVE YOU A WILD ONE WAS THE, THERE'S A SUBMARINE
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SITTING NEXT TO QUEEN MARY THAT THEY MAY HAVE TO CUT UP AND GET RID OF.AND I WAS ASKED, COULD WE LOCATE THERE BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE IT RIGHT IN THE AREA THAT IT IS CURRENTLY LOCATED.
AND I SAID, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY NOT, BUT WE HAVEN'T REACHED THAT SUBJECT FOR SOME TIME SINCE.
SO, SO WE'VE LOOKED AT THINGS, UH, THAT WE COULD PUT UP, BUT IT'S A VACANT LOT ABOUT THE ONLY THING TO DO IS STORE, UH, UH, CONTAINER CARGO CONTAINERS ON IT, UM, UNTIL THE INTERIM TIME.
BUT I, I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT WILL BE FROM WARNING, UH, ANY KIND OF, UH, RFP OF SUCCESSFUL BIDDER TO WHEN THEY WOULD WANT TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE SITE.
SO WE, WE COULD WAIT AND SEE AND SEE WHAT OTHER OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE.
MY, MY REC I'M JUST, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT WHO WE COULD, YOU KNOW, ACTIVATE THE SITE IN TERMS OF SOME TEMPORARY USE.
AND THAT WAY WE WOULD HAVE SOME REVENUE STREAM ON THE VACANT LAND, EVEN IF IT WAS FOR SOME TEMPORARY AND UNKNOWN PERIOD.
THAT WOULD BE THE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT THE, UH, LEASING WOULD TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHEN THEY SIGNED THE CONTRACT.
AND BOARD MEMBER, WITH RESPECT TO YOUR FIRST COMMENT ON ITEM TWO, DEFINITELY WHAT WAS AUTHORIZED UNDER ITEM TWO IS THE IDEA IS THE AUTHORITY FOR BOB ACTING ON BEHALF OF SERF TO EXECUTE A LICENSE AGREEMENT OF SOME SORT WITH ANYONE THAT'S GONNA COME ONTO THE PROPERTY IF WE SELL THEM SCRAP OR WHATEVER WE'RE SELLING THEM AND THEY'LL BE REQUIRED TO HAVE INSURANCE AND THEY'LL INDEMNIFY THE CITY, OR SORRY, SER.
UM, SO THAT'S DEFINITELY PLANNED TO BE ADDRESSED.
WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO WITH ALL THE RACCOONS AND THE, AND THE SUBMARINE? ARE YOU TAKING THOSE TWO? IS THAT PART OF THE AGREEMENT GONE? THEY HAVE NOT.
THEY HAVE NOT, I WALKED BY THERE, I SEE 'EM.
I'M PRETTY SURE THERE'S A LOT OF ASBESTOS.
IT'S, IT'S SO MUCH SO THEY DIDN'T WANT TO CUT IT UP WHERE IT WAS PRESLY LOCATED, THOUGHT SHE WOULD BE AN ISOLATED ENOUGH OF THE SITE TO BE ABLE TO DO IT.
'CAUSE LIKE I WALK THAT AREA REGULARLY AND THERE'S SO MANY RODENTS THAT I WALK IN AND OUT OF THAT, IF YOU'RE JUST THERE, YOU CAN, YOU CAN THE SUBMARINE.
WELL, HOPEFULLY THEY JUST DUNNO IF YOU'RE TAKING THEM TOO WELL.
IT WOULD BE TAKEN OUTTA THE LOCATE OUTTA WATER.
IT CUT UP IN THREE PIECES AT, AT WORD EXPRESSLY.
THEY'RE CALLED AWAY, UH, TO DO FURTHER, UH, UH, CUTTING UP OF WHATSOEVER.
IT WAS, I COULDN'T MOVE THE, THE FIGURE WAS STAGGERING TO TAKE IT OUT SECOND, SO.
WELL, UH, ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR DO WE HAVE A MOTION OR ITEM NUMBER THREE? SO MOVED.
WELL THEN DO YOU, I DIDN'T GET THAT.
LET'S DO IT AGAIN BECAUSE I DIDN'T HEAR IT EITHER.
THIS IS NEXT IS OUR PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION.
WOULD ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC LIKE TO COMMENT ON ANY ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA? ALL RIGHT.
I GUESS WE DON'T GET NEW BUSINESS.