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          OKAY, I GET STARTED. 
          IT'S GREAT TO SEE EVERYONE. 
          SO WELCOME, WELCOME, WELCOME TO THE LONG BEACH, COC ANNUAL QUARTER DEGREE AND BOARD MEETING. 
          SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND JUMP RIGHT IN AND ALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AND WE'LL GO AHEAD, START WITH CALL KIMBERLY. 
          WE, JAMIE UFFER, AIKO TAN, ANNA TOSKI, CLAUDE DIALS, DANIEL BOFF, MC PATON, NIKKI AMICK, CONNOR LOCKE, TAMIKA BOY HERE. 
          PATRICIA SCOTT. 
          MELANIE MARTINS, STEVEN ROCKENBACH. 
          HE IS ABSENT, BUT HE WILL BE JOINING AT 11. 
          UH, AMY LOWRY. 
          LU LUIZ ABSENT BRANDY BROWN SHOCK. 
          YES, WE HAVE QUORUM. 
          AND THEN JUST A REMINDER FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, UM, THAT WISH TO SPEAK ON ANY AGENDA ITEMS, WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU GUYS TO SPEAK. 
          UM, YOU ARE LIMITED TO TWO MINUTES, AND IT IS NOT A Q AND A SESSION, UH, BUT WE WILL CALL FOR, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS AND THEN WE CAN GO AHEAD AND START. 
          PERFECT. 
          FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA THIS MORNING IS RECOMMENDATION TO INTRODUCE CITY STAFF AND LONG BEACH CONTINUUM OF CARE BOARD MEMBERS AND CONDUCT A TEAM BUILDING ICEBREAKER TO ENHANCE BOARD ENGAGEMENT AND CONNECTION. 
          OKAY, AND FOR THIS ONE, UM, WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL BOARD MEMBERS TO GIVE A LITTLE BRIEF INTRODUCTION ABOUT YOURSELVES. 
          UM, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE LIKE A LITTLE BINGO ICEBREAKER FOR YOU GUYS AFTER. 
          SO WHOEVER WOULD LIKE TO START, WE START, IS IT HAW, UH, HAW. 
          AND YOU SAY THEM PRONOUNS. 
          UM, I  HOMELESS ON THE TEETERING ON THE EDGE. 
          YOU KNOW, ONE BAD MONTH WILL GET ME BACK THERE. 
          UM, I'M A DOCTORAL STUDENT AND I'M AN EMPLOYEE OF THE, UH, CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY COLLEGE'S CHANCELLOR'S OFFICE, LEARN RESEARCHER. 
          ALRIGHT, HONOR, , FORMERLY , HAVE LIVED SPIRIT, , , DIVISION, ATION, OR, UH, CO-CHAIR HERE, FOUNDER OF SCALE. 
          ABSENT GROUP, KNOW NOTHING. 
          . 
          AND GOOD MORNING, ANNA IAN. 
          I'M THE EXECUTIVE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, PRESIDENT GARCIA. 
          WELCOME. 
          EVERYONE IS, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO BRING ALL THIS TECHNOLOGY TO STATES. 
          UH, PLEASE DON'T TRIP OVER ANYMORE. 
          WE BOTH RESOLVED, BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR ABOUT THREE AND A HALF YEARS. 
          PREVIOUSLY, SAN AUTHORITY. 
          PRIOR TO THAT, I WAS IN FOR HALF INCHES, ABOUT 20. 
          AND MY NAME IS , SENIOR DIRECTOR AT STAN HEALTH PLAN. 
          I OVERSEE THE PHD BENEFITS SIDE AT STAN AS , THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO WE HAVE ABOUT 13 PROGRAMS. ONE OF THEM IS HOMELESS SERVICES. 
          AND MY FORMER LIFE I WAS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IN HOMEMADE LA, WHICH CREATED HOMELESS SHELTER. 
          PRIOR TO THAT, I WAS THE, UH, HEALTHCARE DIRECTOR, ILLUMINATION FOUNDATION,  REPAIR CLINIC, AND, UH, MEDICAL. 
          SO  PROGRAM FOLKS OF THE C . 
          I'M A LONG BEACH NATIVE. 
          I RUN, UH, PREP DAY PROGRAMS BASED BASED THE SERVICE. 
          WE SPECIALIZE IN HOMELESSNESS AND WE  WE PROVIDE HELP, WORKING CARE, SUPPORT, ADVOCACY FOR THOSE THAT ARE HOMELESS IN OUR, YEAH. 
          GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. 
          TO MAKE A VOICE. 
          NEW CO-CHAIR, UH, LIVED EXPERIENCE OF HOMELESSNESS. 
          CURRENTLY, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR CONNECTIONS FOR WOMEN, WHICH PROVIDES TEMPORARY EMERGENCY SHELTER TO HOMELESS FAMILIES IN  OF LOS ANGELES. 
          ALSO, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF YOUTH CONNECT LA, WHICH PROVIDES SHORT TERM THERAPEUTIC RESIDENTIAL, UH, PROGRAM SERVICES TO YOUTH IN THE FOSTER CARE SYSTEM. 
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AND THEN JUVENILE DETENTION. 
          AND FROM THE CITY OF LONG BEACH AND MORNING EVERYONE. 
           DEVELOPMENT PROJECT MANAGER WITH THE CITY OF LONG BEACH. 
          I'M AS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, HOUSING SERVICES BUREAU. 
          UM, WHAT I PRIMARILY DO IS HELP ADMINISTER OUR FCPD ENTITLEMENT GRANTS. 
          SO IF YOU'VE EVER HEARD OF CDBG, ALL INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIPS OR ESG, UM, THAT IS OUR TEAM. 
          THAT ADMINIST RESPONSE, UM, BEEN WITH THE CITY OR A LITTLE OVER 10 YEARS AS RESIDENT OF LONG BEACH. 
          HEY EVERYBODY. 
          I'M DAN. 
          I'M, UH, I'M A LICENSED CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER IN PRIVATE PRACTICE HERE IN LONG BEACH. 
          UH, WORKED IN COMMUNITY MENTAL HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES FOR MANY YEARS IN LONG BEACH. 
          I, FOR A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT AGENCIES THAT YOU ALL KNOW AND ALSO WORKED WITH  , AND, UH, WORKED FOR THE CITY FOR, UH, ABOUT 10 YEARS. 
          UM, HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS AND OTHER ISSUES TO Y'ALL. 
          EVERYONE. 
          . 
          I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT CENTURY VILLAGE ACT OF RIO. 
          I'VE BEEN IN THAT BOARD, UM, TWO YEARS PRIOR TO THAT. 
          AND OTHER HAT. 
          I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF RESIDENTIAL SERVICES,  HOUSING. 
          SO I OVERSEE ALL THE CASE MANAGEMENT SERVICES CENTURY. 
          UM, I'VE WORKED AT THE VILLAGE IN  FIVE YEARS, JUST HAD MY 25 YEARS HIRED AUGUST. 
          AND PRIOR TO WORKING WAS CENTURY. 
          I'VE WORKED IN THE FIELD,  STILL ON THE BOARD, AND , UM, THAT, SO NOT ONE BEACH PRESIDENT  JUST LIVED ON THE ORANGE . 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          MY NAME IS FRED BROWN SHOP. 
          I'M THE FOUNDER AND CEO OF PA. 
          I'M GONNA DROP AND CENTER HERE AT LONG BEACH, UH, FOR YOU SLASH ON DELTA STAGES 16 TO 30. 
          UM, JUST CREATED A SAFE SPACE. 
          AND PRIOR TO STEPPING OUT FROM MY FELLOW, I WORKED AT, UH, AN ORGANIZATION CALLED ONES. 
          AND I WAS IN SIERRA ROOM FOR 25 YEARS. 
          HI, I AM PAT SCOTT. 
          UM, FORMER EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, I'VE WORKED WITH THE HOMELESS FOR, UH, FOR YEARS NOW. 
          AND, UH, I HAVE A NEW NONPROFIT. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON, UM, WE'RE ALMOST FINISHED SETTING IT UP. 
          IT'S CALLED OPERATION, UH, SANTA LAKE. 
          WE GIVE OUT STOCKINGS TO THE HOMELESS, LIKE  AND OTHER PROJECTS. 
          AND I AM THE, UH, I I'M ALSO ON THE HSAC COMMITTEE AND I AM THE, UH, KIND OF THE ONE WHO GOES BETWEEN THE TWO COMMITTEES BEACH. 
          AND SO, HI EVERYONE. 
          MELANIE MARTINS. 
          UM, I AM THE SUPERVISOR AT VA LONG BEACH FOR HOMELESS OUTREACH. 
          SO MY TEAM'S THE ONE THAT ARE OUT THE STREET, UM, TRYING TO ENGAGE OUR VETERANS AND GETTING  SERVICE. 
          I'M ALSO THE COORDINATED ENTRY SPECIALIST FOR LONG BEACH. 
          SO MY JOB HAS BEEN TRYING TO GET VA INTEGRATED INTO OUR COORDINATIVE ENT ENTRY SYSTEM. 
          WORKING ON THAT. 
          UM, PRIOR TO BEING AT THE VA WITH THAT , I WAS THE  COORDINATOR FOR  FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS, AND THEN PRIOR TO THAT AT MHA RUNNING THEIR S WORKING THERE. 
          AND THEN I STARTED OUT , UM, UH, LONG BEACH RESIDENT. 
          UM, BEEN HERE FOR 20 PLUS YEARS. 
          UM, YEAH, AND I, I ALSO TEACH AT CERTO COLLEGE. 
           FOLKS, , DEPUTY MARI HERE, , UH, ALSO LONG BEACH RESIDENTIAL. 
          UM, I'VE WORKED FOR THE MAYOR NOW FOR LIKE TWO AND A HALF YEARS BEFORE THAT , I ALSO SERVED LA COUNTY DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY ADVISORY. 
          TWO DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF LOOKING AT HOW THE PUBLIC HAPPY TO BE HERE. 
          HAPPY TO MAKE SURE I, UH, MY EYES FOCUS ON THE WELL REPORT  CONCLUSION BASIS. 
          WE BOTH HAVE ALL THE SUPERVISORS ARE OUR BOARD MEMBERS ON OR SO ON. 
          MOSTLY OF THE POLICY LEVEL THINGS. 
          I DON'T, CAN'T PRETEND I KNOW THE , 
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  WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT CALLED HEALTH AND SERVICES. 
          THE CITY OF LONG BEACH. 
          UH, WE, UH, OVERSEE C AND R, THE ADMINISTRATIVE ENTITY FOR THE COC AS WELL AS THE HI , AS WELL AS SUPPORT OUR  SYSTEM, UH, AND DIRECT AND OPERATE , THE COC PROGRAM. 
          UH, SO OUR TEAM SUPPORT FOR BOARD, UH,  AS A NONPROFIT THAT WE FUND PRIOR TO, I'VE BEEN IN LONG BEACH FOR, UH, SAY OVER FIVE YEARS NOW. 
          UH, PREVIOUS TO THAT  IN BLUE ORANGE COUNTY, UH, RUNNING NEW COC. 
          UM, AND THEN PRIOR TO THAT WAS THAT BOX, UH, THEIR PROGRAMS FOR  AND THE PERFORM MANAGEMENT. 
          AND PRIOR TO THAT, UH, MY JOURNEY SOUNDS A LOT LIKE, UH, S OVER HERE. 
          UH, WHAT'S THAT? MHA RUNNING THEIR VETERANS PROGRAM. 
          COLLEGE . 
          MORNING. 
          I'M JEFF PROCTOR, THE OF OPERATIONS OFFICER, THE  SERVICES BUREAU. 
          UM,  SERVICES, UH, WE'VE GOT OUR TWO, UH, SERVICES DIVISION. 
          SO THE DATABASE SERVICE, DIRECT SERVICE PROVIDE MEDICAL BUREAU, AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE, UH,  UNDER THE ADMIN JOB SET OF, UM, COC BOARD OF GOVERNANCE, UH, POLICY DEVELOPMENT, PROGRAM MANAGER, PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT FUND AND GRANT MANAGEMENT, UH, BUDGET FUNDING, , ALL OF THAT KIND. 
          THE BEEN HOME SERVICES FOR ABOUT SIX YEARS-ISH. 
          STARTED IN 2009 WORKING  HOMELESS SINCE, UH, AND MOVED TO THE CONFERENCE. 
           FOR, UH, PORTABLE HOUSING DEVELOPER AND THEN FOR ABOUT SEVEN YEARS OR SO, POSITION THERE WITH LOCATION. 
          AND THEN, UH, I'M JENNIFER SANTANA. 
          I AM THE COMMUNITY PROGRAM SPECIALIST HERE. 
          I OVERSEE OUR COC BOARDS AND COMMITTEES, UM, ALONG WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEES AND OUR HSEC, UH, ADVISORY BOARD. 
          AND THEN STEPH, UH, ASSISTS ME SOMETIMES, BUT SHE'S TECHNICALLY MOVED ON FROM THIS ROLE . 
          UM, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A ICE, A LITTLE BINGO ICEBREAKER FOR YOU GUYS TO DO AMONGST YOURSELF. 
          UM, AFTER THIS, THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM. 
          SO LET ME GRAB I NO WORRIES. 
          YEAH, I'M, I'M HERE. 
          I WAS WITH HOMELESS SERVICES FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS. 
          OH YEAH? YEAH. 
          I STARTED HERE AROUND, YEAH, SOUTH LA AND THEN I MOVED TO, 
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YEAH. 
          SO I WAS HAPPY. 
          YEAH, IT IS NOT A GREAT JOB, YOU KNOW. 
          YEAH. 
          I MAKES LIKE, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IF NOBODY MOVES OR SECOND THOUGH OR APPROVE THE ICEBREAKER, THAT'LL BE RIGHT AFTER. 
          YES. 
          SO WE DID IT BEFORE, WE'RE NOT, WE FINISHED, WE FINISHED IT FIRST, THEN WE APPROVE IT. 
          SO IT'S LIKE A PRESENTATION. 
          LIKE WE, WE SEE THE WE INTERESTING. 
          I THOUGHT WE HAD TO FIT BEFORE WE DID IT. 
          NO, YEAH, WE DO THE OF THE WAIT, SORRY, WHAT DID YOU SAY? OH, I'M GONNA PRINT VERSION OF IT SO THAT WAY SHE KNOWS, LIKE I ALREADY GAVE HER YOU GAVE HER THE SCRIPT? NO, I GAVE HER LIKE THE ORDER OF, WHAT DO I MEAN? SHE JUST NEEDS TO READ THE AGENDA DOWN AND, BUT IF YOU HAVE, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF MAYBE, I MEAN, SHE'S BEEN WITH THE BOARD. 
          SHE'S JUST A NEW CO-CHAIR. 
          I, WE SO FOR THE PERSON THAT DID THAT ITEM, CAN WE GET A MOTION AND A SECOND? SECOND. 
          ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? NO COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD. 
          ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? SEE NONE. 
          SEE NONE. 
          WE WILL GO AHEAD AND VOTE. 
          WE HAND MOTION SHOW TO APPROVE. 
          AYE NAS 
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MOTION APPROVE. 
          SECOND ITEM IS ESH TO RECEIPTS AND FILE A PRESENTATION OF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON THE GROUND ACT AND ROBBERY. 
          AND WE HAVE NICK RO FROM CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WHO WILL BE PRESENTING ON THIS ITEM. 
          YES. 
          GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. 
          I WORK IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND I HAVE THE DISTINCT PRIVILEGE OF WORKING WITH OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT, INCLUDING OUR, OUR COC TEAM AND OUR SERVICE BUREAU. 
          UM, THAT WOULD BE MY FAVORITE START OF THE JOBS AND VOLUNTEERING  PURPOSE, UM, IS KIND OF LIKE A 1 0 1 ON, UH, IMPORTANT LEGAL THAT RELATES TO THE WORK THAT WE DO HERE. 
          FIRST WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE BROWN ACT AND THEN WE'RE GONNA TALK VERY BRIEFLY, UH, TO OFFICIALLY ABOUT ROBERT'S RULE FOR PROCEDURE. 
          UM, AND SO, OH, I'M, SO FIRST WE'RE GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BROWN ACT. 
          BROWN ACT WAS ENACTED IN 1953 TO GUARANTEE THE PUBLIC'S RIGHT TO ATTEND AND PARTICIPATE IN GOVERNMENT AND BILLING. 
          THE BROWN ACT WAS ENACTED IN RESPONSE TO PUBLIC CONCERN ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, WHERE THE PUBLIC DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT OR UNDERSTAND OR HEAR WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN GOVERNING WITH DELIBERATIVE BODIES. 
          IT'S ONE OF OUR TWO IN CALIFORNIA MAIN SUNSHINE LAWS. 
          THE OTHER IS THE PUBLIC RECORDS ACT. 
          UM, THEY COVER DIFFERENT THINGS TO TALK ABOUT PUBLIC RECORDS THAT BRIEFLY A LITTLE BIT LATER. 
          UH, SUNSHINE LAWS PROBABLY PRETTY OBVIOUS AS TO WHERE THOSE NAMES COME FROM. 
          BUT THE IDEA IS THAT WE WANT SHINE LOTS OF BRIGHT LIGHT ON EVERYTHING THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS DOING, MAINTAIN GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE AND WHAT WE'RE DONE. 
          UM, AND IT'S A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT HERE IN CA CALIFORNIA. 
          SO WHEN WE ENACTED BOTH THE BROWN ACT AND THE CPRA AT CALIFORNIA PUBLIC RECORDS ACT PART OF OUR CONFLICT. 
          SO THIS IS IMPORTANT RIGHTS THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY DECIDED THAT WE SHOULD PRESERVE. 
          SO THERE ARE JUST A FEW GENERAL PRINCIPLES THAT REALLY EXPLAIN MOST OF THE WERE DETAILED CONTOURS OF THE BROWN ACT. 
          UH, THE FIRST IS THAT ALL MEETINGS SHOULD BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC SO THAT ALL ACTIONS AND DELIBERATIONS CAN BE EXPOSED TO THE PUBLIC. 
          THE PUBLIC HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR DELIBERATIONS THAT LEAD TO THE DECISIONS AS WELL AS THE DECISIONS THEMSELVES. 
          A MEETING FOR PURPOSES OF THE BROWN ACT IS DEFINED AS MAJORITY COMMISSION MEMBERS, UM, MEETING AT THE SAME TIME AND PLACE TO DISCUSS ANYTHING INSIDE OF ITS JURISDICTION. 
          ALL PERSONS ARE ENTITLED TO DEFEND AND PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETINGS. 
          PARTICIPATION IS THROUGH PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, WHICH IS ALLOWED FOR EVERY AGENDA ITEM. 
          AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY, FOR EVERY MEETING ON ANY TOPIC, NOT LEGITIMIZED FOR PURPOSES OF THE BOARD, COMMISSION OR OTHER ENTITY, YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO DISCUSS THE MATTERS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA. 
          A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL. 
          UM, SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE, THE GUIDELINES. 
          THERE'S ALSO THIS OTHER BIGGER CONCEPT, UM, THAT IS BORNE OUT IN THE BROWN ACT THAT HAS KIND OF MORE, OH, VAGUE, UM, PARAMETERS OR DETAILS. 
          BUT I THINK WE'LL ALL UNDERSTAND A CONCEPT REALLY IMPORTANT TO AVOID EVENLY ADHERENT TO THE RIGHT. 
          SO THE RULES OF THE BROWN ACT ARE DESIGNED TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S NO VARIETY AND WE DO TAKE STEPS BEYOND THE REQUIREMENTS OF ROUND ACT, ABOVE THE REQUIREMENT OF ROUND ACT THAT EVEN AVOID THE APPEARANCE, RIGHT? NEED IT ALL AS PUBLIC SERVANT COMMISSIONERS AND BOARD MEMBERS UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S OUR JOB NOT LEGALLY TO COMPLY WITH THE LETTER OF THE LAW CALLS SUPERIOR. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE BEING ABLE TO TALK ABOUT IN PRIOR, IN THE CONTEXT OF THE BROWN. 
          SO WHO IS SUBJECT TO BROWN LEGISLATIVE BODIES LIKE OUR CITY COUNCIL? ANY SUBCOMMITTEES OF ANYBODY COVERED BY THE BROWN ACT BODIES OR ENTITIES CREATED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND UNLAWFULLY DELEGATED AUTHORITY OF THE COUNCIL THAT INCLUDE MOST COMMONLY LIKE OUR BOARD OF EXAMINATIONS AND CONDEMNATIONS, LOTS OF OTHER THERE, UH, INCLUDES SEPARATE LEGAL ENTITY CREATED BY THE CITY, UM, SUCH AS LONG BEACH TRANSIT OR THE LONG BEACH COMMUNITY INVESTMENT COMPANY,  LONG BEACH. 
          ALL TECHNICALLY NOT THEY'RE SAME CORPORATION FROM THE CITY OF LONG BEACH, BUT THEY ARE CREATED BY THE CITY OF LONG BEACH. 
          SO THEY CALL ALSO, UM, SUBCOMMITTEES. 
          THERE'S SOME EXAMPLES. 
          UM, YOU MIGHT HAVE A STANDING SUBCOMMITTEE, LIKE A BUDGET COMMITTEE OR AN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. 
          UM, MIGHT ALSO HAVE LIKE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE, WHICH IS BUILT FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE, GENERALLY LIKE A WORK PRODUCT THAT WE NEEDS TO CREATE, RIGHT? THE BOARD OR PROVIDE 
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FEEDBACK AND KIND OF DOCUMENTS. 
          YOU MIGHT CREATE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE, JUST ANY PORTION OF THE COMMITTEE THAT'S LESS THAN A FORUM THAT BE IMPORTANT LEADER TOO. 
          UM, AND THEN THAT GROUP IS NOT SUBJECT TO GROWN ACT. 
          AND THAT'S REALLY SO THAT THEY CAN SIT DOWN AND TOWARDS GENERATED VALUE  PRODUCT. 
          UM, THEY'LL HAVE TO REPORT BACK THEIR FINDINGS FOR THE LARGE COMMITTEE. 
          AND THAT MEANS THAT THE GOVERNMENT, EVERYTHING, THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT AREN'T PART ACTING, LEARN ABOUT THE WORK OF THE AD HOC THROUGH , HOW THAT WORKED OUT. 
          OKAY, I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT SOME PROHIBITIONS FIRST 'CAUSE I THINK IT HELPS UNDERST AGAIN, UM, AND EXPLAIN, UH, WELL WE NEED, WE TALK ABOUT SUNSHINE AND A PUBLIC RIGHT TO PARTICIPATE IN HEARINGS AND DELIBERATIVE PROCESSES. 
          SO COMMUNICATIONS ARE GENERALLY SUBJECT TO BROWN ACT, MEANING THAT THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO HEAR AND PARTICIPATE. 
          THESE ARE KIND OF COMMON WAYS, OPEN, NOT COMMON WAYS, BUT EASY WAYS THAT THESE RULES COULD BE VIOLATED. 
          UM, THE FIRST WOULD BE A SERIAL COMMUNICATION. 
          SO A CONVERSATION BETWEEN LESS THAN A MAJORITY OF MEMBERS. 
          COULD BE TWO, COULD BE THREE, COULD FOUR. 
          BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, NIKKI TALKED TO DANIEL, DANIEL TALKED HIM, KIM TALKED TO BRANDY. 
          AND BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, THAT SAME TOPIC HAS BEEN DISCUSSED BY A MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSION. 
          AND NOW WE HAVE A MAJORITY OF BODY DELIBERATING ACTIONS WITHIN PURVIEW THAT THE PUBLIC DID NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO OR LEADER OR DISCUSS WITH DELIBERATION. 
          WE REALLY WANNA LIMIT OUR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE JURISDICTION OVER WITH GBC. 
          DO. 
          THE COMMITTEE LEADS THEMSELVES CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF HAVING THAT CONSIDERED, UM, OR ADC COMMITTEE THAT ARE CREATED TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, MORE WORK ORIENTED. 
          HERE ARE SOME WAYS THAT SERIAL COMMUNICATIONS TEND TO HAPPEN. 
          UH, SO HUB AND SPOKE COMMUNICATION WHERE ONE MEMBER CONTACTS ALL OR A MAJORITY OF THE MEMBERS. 
          SO IF I WENT AND TALKED TO SIX MEMBERS INDIVIDUALLY, EACH ONE OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS SUBJECT, BUT BY THE TIME A NUMBER OF US HAVE COMMUNICATED ABOUT IT, WE REACHED THE QUORUM LEVEL AND HAVE, HAVE CORRECT PROBLEM. 
          DAISY CHANG HAS KIND OF THE FIRST EXAMPLE I USED WHERE I TOLD ME TELEPHONE. 
          AND IT JUST MAKES THE WAY THROUGHOUT THE BOARD MEMBER TO ALSO PROHIBITION. 
          UM, IT CAN HAPPEN BY A REPRESENTATIVE. 
          SO IF UM, YOU HAVE A FRIEND OR A STAFF MEMBER OR A COLLEAGUE, YOU HAVE THAT PERSON TO COMMUNICATE ON A BEHALF, THAT DOES NOT LEAVE US OF OUR OBLIGATIONS UNDER THE GROUND JUST 'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT HAVING A CONVERSATION DIRECTLY YOURSELF. 
          THE PUBLIC STILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO PARTICIPATE IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND HEAR THOSE DELIBERATIVE PROCESSES. 
          THESE CAN HAPPEN OVER VERBAL COMMUNICATIONS, WHICH IS THE EXAMPLE I HAVE BENEATH CAN ALSO HAPPEN OVER EMAIL, TEXT MESSAGE, FACEBOOK, OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          UM, AND AGAIN. 
          SO REALLY THE BIG TAKEAWAY IS THE, THE CONVERSATIONS THAT RELATE TO OUR JURISDICTION SHOULD BE HAPPENING IN THIS SETTING. 
          UM, OR, OR A SPECIAL A AND HOW BUNCH SLIDES I  EXPLAINING THAT STUFF I APOLOGIZE, DON'T FEEL REALLY PER HEARD ABOUT. 
          SO WHAT COMMUNICATIONS ARE ALLOWED, YOU CAN HAVE INDIVIDUAL COMMUNICATIONS WITH THAT INCLUDE ANY NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT IS LESS THAN A QUORUM OF COMMITTEE. 
          I WOULD ADVISE THE DEFENSE PRACTICE, AGAIN, THAT LIMIT THOSE CONVERSATIONS. 
          BUT ANY CONVERSATION LIKE THAT AND WILL SOMETIMES BE NECESSARY OPERATIONALLY, UM, IS NOT A VIOLATION BROWN ACT, NOR IS IT A VIOLATION OF BROWN ACT FOR YOU TO SPEAK WITH FOLKS THAT AREN'T ON AT ANY POINT IN TIME FOR THAT, INCLUDING CONSTITUENTS, ADVOCATES, CONSULTANTS, SUPPORT THAT AND OTHER COLLEAGUES. 
          UM, IF YOU'RE SPEAKING TO, UH, REPORTERS OR, UH, CONSTITUENTS OR OTHER POLITICAL REPORTS, IT'S BEST PRACTICE TO GET AUTHORIZATION TO DO SO FROM THE BOARD, PARTICULARLY IF YOU'RE PUTTING YOURSELF IN THE POSITION OF SAYING YOU'RE SPEAK FOR THE BOARD, IT WOULD BE IMPROPER TO REPRESENT THE ON FOR THE BOARD, UH, UNLESS YOU HAVE THAT AUTHORIZATION FROM THE BOARD. 
          SO YOU CAN SPEAK TO THOSE FOLKS WITHOUT THAT CAVEAT IN YOUR OWN INDIVIDUAL CAPACITY OF THE CITIZEN COURT. 
          BUT IF YOU'RE REPRESENTING BE, COULD BE AS SIMPLE AS INTRODUCING YOURSELF TO A REPORTER OR WHOEVER IN PAST. 
          I'M A MEMBER OF THE BOARD AND THAT SHOULD CREATE INFERENCE HOUSE SUPPORT. 
          SO I JUST SORT YOU ALL CAREFUL WITH HOW YOU APPROACH CODE. 
          UM, IT'LL HAPPEN PROBABLY REGULARLY WHERE THERE 
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ARE A MAJORITY OF MAY NOT REGULARLY, BUT HOPEFULLY OFTEN ENOUGH THAT WE'RE ALL AT THE SAME PLACE AT THE SAME TIME FOR SOME REASON OTHER THAN CONDUCTING WORK THAT MAYBE BY SOME CRAZY CHANCE AND CIRCUMSTANCE ALL AT THE GROCERY STORE OR WE'RE AT STUDENT COUNCIL MEETING OR WE'RE AT FUNDRAISER, UM, OR AT SOMEBODY'S BIRTHDAY PARTY, TOTALLY FINE. 
          UM, BUT BE ADVISED TO REALLY DO YOUR VERY BEST TO DO YOUR LY TOPIC. 
          THE  HR WORK IS AWARD AT THOSE THOSE INFORMAL SOCIAL STUDIES IS DOING. 
          SO THEN WELL COULD CONSTITUTE A MEETING OF COMMISSION. 
          SO LIKE THE NOTICE TRANSPARENCY REQUIREMENTS BY THE BURNOUT. 
          BUT IF YOU'RE JUST THERE HAVING FUN, SOCIALIZING NOT AN ISSUE PRODUCT. 
          SO THAT SEGUES SOMEWHAT NICELY, SOMEWHAT INTO AGENDA. 
          SO THE REASON WE CAN'T HAVE THIS KIND OF IMPROMPTU MEETING FOR THE DISCUSS CITY BUSINESS IS, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING TO, WOULD IT BE VERY FAIR FOR US TO NOT TELL THEM WHEN OR WHERE THOSE MEETINGS WERE GOING TO BE? UH, SO WE HAVE A 72 HOUR REQUIREMENT. 
          A NOTICE REQUIREMENT A LITTLE BIT BROADER TO THE LOT ITSELF REQUIRES, UM, JUST 24 HOURS AS THE MINIMUM OF THE LAW REQUIRES. 
          BUT AS THE CITY, WE HAVE DECIDED THAT 72 HOURS IS MORE APPROPRIATE AT THE MINIMUM, AND WE ENDEAVOR TO DO IT EARLIER THAN THAT. 
          UH, FOR SOME LOGISTIC REASONS, NOT IT'S EASY. 
          BUT NORMALLY WE CAN'T GET AN AGENDA FINALIZED WITHIN 72 HOURS OR WE GET A MEETING IF THERE'S SOMETHING CRITICAL THAT MEANS TO GO FORWARD AT THAT MEETING. 
          24 HOURS IS THE MINIMUM NOTICE THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO PROVIDE PUBLIC AND WE'RE LESS RELUCTANT TO DO THAT IF IT'S CORRECTING TYPO OR CLARIFYING LANGUAGE AND AGENDA. 
          IF IT ADD YOU AN IMPORTANT ISSUE TO AN AGENDA, OUR INCLINATION IS GONNA BE TO TRY TO SCHEDULE FOR THE NEXT MEETING THAT A RUSHING NOTICE, THE 24 HOURS. 
          THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT NEVER HAPPENS, JUST LET YOU KNOW LIKE WHAT WITH AND AVOID THE APPEARANCE. 
          OFIE AND PROMOTING PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THE PARAMETERS THAT WE GUIDE. 
          THE LANGUAGE OF THE AGENDA IS REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          UM, AND THERE'S A BUNCH OF FOLKS IN THIS ROOM THAT WORK ON IT DILIGENTLY WAY AHEAD OF TIME. 
          UM, IT'S NOT ALWAYS AS EASY AS YOU THINK IT IS, UM, BECAUSE IT, IT STRIKES THE AUTHORITY THAT WE HAVE. 
          SO YOU'LL SEE IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR AGENDA TODAY, UM, THIS IS REGARDED, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVEMENT FILE PRESENTATION. 
          SO THAT MEANS THAT BASICALLY WHAT THE COMMISSION IS DOING IS LISTENING. 
          UH, YOU'LL BE ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TOPICS HERE, BUT YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ALLOWED TO LIKE TAKE A MOTION OR MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BACK TO ME OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT BASED ON THIS AGENDA. 
          REALLY LIMITED TO THE VIEW FILING THE LOCATION. 
          YOU'LL SEE OTHER, UM, , OKAY, RECEIVED THE FILE TODAY. 
          UM, YOU'LL SEE DOWN TO 10 RECOMMENDATION, CONDUCT DISCUSSION. 
          AND SO THAT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE MORE FREE FLOWING AND PARTICIPATE IN HAVING YOURSELF. 
          UM, YOU'LL SEE SOMETIMES THAT THERE'S A REQUEST FOR SOME KIND OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION TO BE TAKEN AT COURT, AND THEN I'LL CALL FOR A MOTION SPECIFICALLY TO DO A THING. 
          UH, BUT WE'RE LIMITED TO WHAT WE DO BASED ON THE DESCRIPTION OF THE LANGUAGE IN THE AGENDA AS, AND IT ALSO OF COURSE, HOPEFULLY, OBVIOUSLY MUST BE POSTED IN THE LOCATION AVAILABLE WITH THE PUBLIC. 
          THAT'S A LOT EASIER IN DIGITAL AGE. 
          NOW WE HAVE ALL THIS STUFF ON THE WEBSITE, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT IT WAS A LITTLE HARDER TO FIND PUBLIC STATION, BUT WE PUT 'EM ON CITY HALL, WE PUT 'EM OUT BY THE LIBRARIES, WE PUT 'EM IN PLACES FOR POST, BUT PEOPLE WOULD SEE THEM, UM, MUCH MORE EASIER GIVE, UH, GOOD ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION. 
          NOW WHERE CAN WE NEED TO BE HELD PRETTY MUCH ANYWHERE WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE BODY. 
          WE DO HAVE TO INCLUDE THE LOCATION WHEN WE POST THE AGENDA, THAT'S PART OF THE NOTICE THAT THE PUBLIC IS ENTITLED TO. 
          UM, AND THERE CAN BE SOME, UH, AND THEY MUST BE ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE WITH, UH, DISABILITIES SUPPORT. 
          SO WE TAKE SERIOUSLY AS WELL. 
          UM, AND THERE CAN BE, UM, YEAH, UH, YOU  THERE, BUT BASICALLY IT'S PRETTY BROAD. 
          WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT PUBLIC HAS ACCESS, INCLUDING FOLKS WITH OTHER, WHAT RIGHTS DOES THE PUBLIC HAVE AT OUR MEETINGS? THE COMMENT ON ANY MATTER ON THE AGENDA. 
          AND WE DO THAT, UH, UH, SOLVE OUR LAST ITEM FOLLOWING THE AGENDA ITEM. 
          AND THEN AT THE END OF THE MEETING, THE PUBLIC HAD THE RIGHT TO COMMENT ON ANY ITEM THAT WAS NOT ON THE AGENDA. 
          SO THE GUIDANCE TO THE PUBLIC IS IF YOU'RE SPEAKING ON AN ITEM THAT, AN AGENDA ITEM THAT INCLUSION WELL OR ATTORNEY EXCEPTION OF THAT. 
          AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT I 
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NOT , END MEETING, PUBLIC COMMENT ON ALL OTHER TIMES, UM, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO RECORD THE MEETING WITH AUDIO OR VIDEOTAPE AND TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS SO LONG AS THEY'RE DOING SO IN A MANNER NOT DISRUPT. 
          SO SOMEBODY I WOULD ASK, THEY NOT WALK UP IN HERE AND START WALKING AROUND ON THE PHONE AND EVERYBODY SAY THE BUSINESS, BUT YOU'RE DOING SO RESPECTFULLY AND IN A WAY THAT THE BE THE OPERATION OF THE PANEL, THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO FEEDBACK. 
          THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO REVIEW THE AGENDA AND ANY WRITINGS THAT ARE DISTRIBUTED. 
          SO ALL OF THESE POWERPOINT THROUGH PAGES AND OTHER INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVE GETS POSTED ONLINE WITH OUR AGENDA AT THE SAME PLACE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN DOWNLOAD AND DO PDFS, UM, OF THE SAME INFORMATION THAT WE'RE RECEIVING. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE TO REGISTER OR IDENTIFY THEMSELVES TO SHOW UP. 
          THEY NEED TO BE ANONYMOUSLY OR NOT AT THEY'RE DISCRETION. 
          AND WE HAVE A RIGHT TO WITNESS ALL OF THE VOTES. 
          SO WE CAN'T VOTE OR CONDUCT CENTRAL BUSINESS, UM, EXCEPT AT A PUBLIC MEETING. 
          UM, THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS TO THAT WHERE, UH, FOR MATTER CLOSED SESSION, I DON'T KNOW OR SEE HOW THAT WOULD APPLY TO THIS COMMISSION. 
          BUT AN EASY EXAMPLE IS IF CITY COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING COURT SETTLING LAWSUIT AND, UM, COMPLIANT PRIVILEGE  WORK PRODUCT, THOSE WOULD STILL APPLY. 
          UM, AND SO COUNSEL, IF THE ATTORNEYS ARE GIVING BIKES TO, UM, A LEGISLATIVE BODY, THOSE MEETINGS ARE CONFIDENTIAL AND WE'LL HAVE, IF THAT MEETING WE'LL HAVE, THEY'LL GO OUT, START THE HEARING, THEY'LL SAY, WE'RE GOING INTO CLOSEUPS. 
          WE'LL GO BACK AND ENC CLOSED SESSION WHERE THE PUBLIC'S NOT ALLOWED. 
          THEY'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION THERE, THEY'LL MAKE A DECISION AND THEN THEY'LL COME BACK OUT AND THEY'LL REPORT OUT SOME OF AN EASY EXAMPLE OF SEVEN LAWSUIT. 
          THEY'LL SAY, YOU KNOW, WE DECIDED TO SETTLE SUCH AND SUCH A CASE FOR SUCH SUCH AMOUNT AND THEY WON'T HAVE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE TOPIC THAN SUB AND THE PUBLIC STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO THAT. 
          UM, I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT WE'LL HAPPEN, NOT OFTEN, BUT , ALRIGHT, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE VIOLATE THE BROWN? WELL, LET'S JUST NOT DO IT. 
          UM, IT CIVIL LAWSUITS AND CRIMINAL PENALTY. 
          SO ANY INTERESTED PARTY, WHICH UNDER THE GROUND ACT, ANY CITIZEN OF OUR JURISDICTION OR PERSON WHO HASN'T BEEN THE WORK OF OUR JURISDICTION, DON'T NEED TO LIVE IN LONG BEACH TO OUTSTANDING SEAL AND BRING THE CIVIL LAWSUIT TO INVALIDATE THE ACTION OF THE BODY THAT ALLEGEDLY VIOLATED THE BROWN ACT, UH, AND PREVENT FUTURE AND GET AN INJUNCTION FROM A FUTURE VIOLATION OF BROWN ACT. 
          SO IF IT WAS PRACTICE THAT THAT ALLEGED TO VIOLATION OF THE BROWN ACT, THERE WOULD BE A COURT THAT WE CAN'T DO THAT , UM, THE BODY WOULD THEN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. 
          BASICALLY, YOU DO GET A TWO OVER IN MOST CIRCUMSTANCES. 
          SO WHATEVER YOUR ACTION WAS IS RESCINDED AND YOU HAVE TO AGENDA IT AGAIN, DO IT ALL CORRECTLY, HAVE A PROPER OR PUBLIC HEARING, AND THOSE, THE ACTIONS SUBSEQUENTLY AFTER THAT. 
          AND A COMMISSION LIKE THIS WHERE THERE ARE LOT OF TIMELINES OF CONTRACT AND GRANT STUFF COULD BE  PROBLEM THE FIRST TIME. 
          UH, BUT WE DO GET TO DO OVER FOR, YOU KNOW,  THAT SOME LEVEL MORE, UH, UNUSUALLY AND MORE SERIOUSLY. 
          UH, IF IF IT THERE IT COULD BE PUNISHED AS A MISDEMEANOR FOR A PERSON, UH, THAT WAS IMPENDING THE DEPRIVE OF PUBLIC OF INFORMATION. 
          SO THERE'S AN INTENT REQUIREMENT HERE. 
          I CAN'T BE LIKE SYNAPS WITH HIM. 
          THE, I WENT OUT 23 HOURS INSTEAD OF 24 HOURS. 
          THAT'S NOT GONNA NEED CRIMINAL PROSECUTION OF THE COURT. 
          UM, I MADE A CASUAL COMMENT AT A SOCIAL PARTY THAT WAS RELATED TO THE BUSINESS THAT WAS A MOMENTARY LAPSE IN JUDGMENT THAT'S NOT GONNA USUALLY RESOLVE IN CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST ANYONE PARTICIPATING IN THAT CONVERSATION. 
          BUT IF WE COORDINATED AND DECIDED TO HAVE A MEETING IN PRIVATE OR DISCUSS BUSINESS IN PRIVATE AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC GUIDE, THE INTENTION TO CONDUCT THAT MEETING PRIVATELY WOULD BE ENOUGH TO RESULT IN . 
          SO WELL NOT HAPPENING AS LONG EACH, AND I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THAT IS 30,000 FEET ABOVE BROWN. 
          BUT I THINK IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT SHOULD GIVE YOU BASIC GUIDELINES ON, UH, HOW WE'RE GONNA OPERATE OUR BODY. 
          AND THAT'S, UH, PUBLIC IMPACTING. 
          THE NEXT SECTION IS BROUGHT TO RULES, WHICH IS BASICALLY PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE. 
          KIND OF A A ONE SIZE FITS ALL PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE THAT WAS DEVELOPED MANY, MANY MOONS AGO THAT PROVIDES, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BASIC STRUCTURAL FRAMEWORK FOR ENTITIES. 
          NOT ALWAYS PUBLIC ENTITIES. 
          LOT OF CORPORATIONS USE IT, LOT OF NON-PROFITS USE IT TO, MIGHT HAVE SEEN OTHER PLACES, UM, HOW TO CONDUCT IT AN, UH, COUNCIL OR, OR AN ADVISORY BODY OR IT APPLIES IN ALL THOSE DIFFERENT SERVICES. 
          AND MOST OF THE RULES 
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I THINK YOU'LL BE VERY FAMILIAR WITH, UM, AS ROBERT'S RULES ARE NOT WRITTEN SPECIFICALLY FOR PUBLIC ENTITIES. 
          THERE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE MODIFIED FROM ROBERT'S RULES TO PROVIDE FOR THE TRANSPARENCY AND OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          THAT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE THE CASE. 
          WE'RE AT MICROSOFT RIGHT NOW BEING THEIR, ONE OF THEIR BOARDS OR A PHILANTHROPIC ENTITY ON ONE OF THEIR BOARDS. 
          UM, BUT MOST OF THE BASIC RULES WILL BE THE SAME. 
          SO IT'S MOST SIMPLY, RULES ARE MADE, DECISIONS ARE MADE BY A MAJORITY VOTE. 
          UH, THE COMMISSION SHOULD CONDUCT ITS BUSINESS IN AN ORDERLY, ORDERLY AND EFFICIENT MANNER. 
          UM, AND WE DO THAT. 
          THERE ARE LOVELY CO-CHAIRS HERE, WHICH IS GREAT. 
          LET'S WALK THROUGH THE AGENDA AND STAY ON TASK. 
          UM, EVERY MEMBER IN ALL VIEWPOINTS HAVE AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE, CAN BE HEARD BEFORE VOTING. 
          SO WE SHOULD ALWAYS GET AN OPPORTUNITY INVOLVED IN ITEMS PENDING BEFORE WE EVEN TO COMMENT AND SHARE YOUR OPINIONS TO ENCOURAGE, DO SO FREELY AND RESPECTFULLY, BUT ESPECIALLY IF YOU FEEL YOU HAVE TO BE POINTED, THAT MIGHT NOT BE PART OF THE MAINSTREAM OR THE NORM OR UNDERREPRESENTED. 
          IT IS, UH, GROUP ENCOURAGED TO PARTICIPATE. 
           HAPPEN UNANIM, WE WANT GOOD, VIBRANT CONVERSATION. 
          THE REALLY ROUNDING DISCUSSED ALL OF THE ISSUES THE IMPORTANT ISSUES HAVE DONE BEFORE US. 
          AND LASTLY, THE RULES ARE HERE TO HELP NOT HINDER. 
          AND SO WE DO HAVE AN ABILITY TO THOSE VERY  EMPLOYED RULES, PRETTY BASIC WHERE THERE WERE PROCEDURAL PROBLEMS WITH SOMETHING, THE BOARD CAN CREATE BYLAWS THAT REMEDY, THAT MAKE A JOB, COULD CHANGE AS NEEDED, EXTRA, DOING THINGS AFFECTING EFFICIENTLY. 
          OUR CHAIRS HAVE AN IMPORTANT JOB. 
          UH, FIRST THEY INTRODUCE THE BUSINESS FOR IN THE PROPER ORDER ON AGENDA. 
          THEY HELP US KEEP TIME. 
          WE HAVE A CUTOFF OR ITEMS, UH, THEY HELP DETERMINE IF THERE'S A MOTION THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE. 
          THEY KEEP DISCUSSION FOCUSED ON AGENDA. 
          UM, SO YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO STAY ON TOPIC WHEN WE ARE SELLING OUR AGENDA ITEMS. AND IF THINGS START DRIFTING, ONE OF THE ROLE OUR CHAIRS TO HELP US BRING, REMIND US THAT WE'RE SCHEDULING THIS ITEM AND IF THEY WANNA HAVE A TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE, WE'VE GOTTA GET OUR AGENDA AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE NOTICE AND PARTICIPATE IN THAT MAY BE RELATED, BUT NOT QUITE THIS DISCUSSION. 
          UM, AND THAT WAS PRETTY NORMAL. 
          UM, AND WORKING TIME FAIRLY NEUTRALLY FOR PUBLIC SPEAKERS. 
          SO WE HAVE A TWO MINUTE RULE HERE. 
          EVERYBODY GETS TWO MINUTES. 
          REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU THINK OR WHAT YOUR POSITION OR PERSPECTIVE IS OR YOU'RE CITIZEN DONOR, EVERYBODY GETS TO SAY. 
          SO A LITTLE REDUNDANT THAT GOES INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT FEW THINGS. 
          UM, WE AS A BOARD MEMBERS HERE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, TO WAIT TO BE RECOGNIZED BY OUR CHAIR. 
          UH, AND OUR CHAIRS SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE THAT HAS A QUESTION OR COMMENT THEY'D LIKE TO MAKE ON THE RECORD HAS AN OPPORTUNITY. 
          AND SO SHOULD THEY ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, NOT NOT DISCOURAGE SOMEONE WHO'S SPEAKING BECAUSE OF THE VIEWPOINT FROM PERSPECTIVE BY INTERRUPTING. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A PROBLEM HERE, BUT WE ALL NEED TO ACTIVELY LISTEN TO ALL OF THE VIEWPOINTS THAT ARE EXPRESSED. 
          UM, AND IF THERE IS, UH, IT USES THE WORD ARGUMENT HERE AND THAT'S FINE. 
          IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S CONFRONTATIONAL OR CONFLICTING. 
          ARGUMENT ARE GOOD THINGS AND KIND CONTEXT SO THAT WE CAN REACH THE RIGHT DECISION AT THE END OF THE DAY. 
          BUT ENSURING THAT IT'S DONE RESPECTFULLY WITHOUT PEOPLE INTERRUPTING AND EVERYONE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY HEARD ON THEIR ISSUE. 
          AND THEN LAST OF MANAGING ANY CONFLICTS THAT MAY ARISE OR DISCUSSIONS THIS HAPPENS SOMETIMES WITH THE PEOPLE CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE HERE FOR. 
          AND NOT EVERY VOTE'S GONNA BE THE WAY EVERY BOARD MEMBER WANTS IT TO BE. 
          UM, AND SO WE ALL UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THAT. 
          AND, UM, WE RESPECT THE PROCESS AND CHAIR THE . 
          UM, HEALTHY, FRIENDLY, FUNCTIONAL RELATIONSHIPS. 
          EVEN WHEN FREE ABOUT THINGS. 
          WE FEEL VERY STRONGLY AS WE'VE ALREADY DONE ONCE TODAY, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO AT LEAST 10 TIMES TODAY. 
          UH, A MOTION CAN BE MADE ONCE A COMMISSION, ONCE A BOARD MEMBER HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIR. 
          AND SO WE READ THE AGENDA ITEM. 
          WE, WE ASKED FOR A MOTION. 
          WE WERE GIVEN A MOTION, ASKED FOR A SECOND, GOT THE SECOND, HAVE THE DISCUSSION. 
          UM, THAT'S EXACTLY THE PROCESS THAT WAS FOLLOWED THROUGHOUT HERE. 
          THEN THE MOTION, IF IT WERE LIKE SOME KIND OF LEGISLATIVE ACTION WE WERE TAKING, HERE'S A RECEIVING FILE. 
          SO THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LENGTH DEBATE, BUT THEN YOU BEGIN YOUR RECEIVING FILE AND THEN HAVING HEARD THE RECEIVING FILE HERE, YOU'LL DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO ACCEPT IT. 
          UM, RATHER PROFORMA IN THE CONTEXT OF THE RECEIVING FILE. 
          IT'S LESS PROFORMA IF YOU'RE TAKING AN 
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ACTION WITHIN YOUR JURISDICTION. 
          THERE CAN ALSO BE AMENDMENTS TO MOTION. 
          SO AS CONVERSATION GOES ON, SOMEONE ON COMMISSION MAY SAY, WELL, THIS IS A VERY EASY EXAMPLE. 
          I DON'T THINK 30 DAYS IS SUFFICIENT FOR THIS DEADLINE. 
          YOU SHOULD MAKE 60 DAYS FOR MONTH REPORT BACK EARLIER THAN THE TIME ALL FOR THE AGENDA. 
          SO YOU MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION. 
          IF IT IS REALLY, UH, THIS IS NOT A FORMAL RULE IN ROBERT'S RULES, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO THAT FROM A ENCY AND EXPEDIENCY. 
          WE CALL IT FRIENDLY. 
          THEN IT REALLY JUST A VERY LIKE CORRECTING TYPO OR A VERY  CLARIFICATION. 
          NO EMOTION. 
          IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE MEANING OR SPHERE OF THE MOTION ITSELF. 
          WE CALL IT A FRIENDLY WHEN THAT HAPPENS TO SAY, OH, I THINK YOU KNOW THIS, MAYBE THIS MEANT THIS, THIS ISN'T CLEAR IN HERE WHAT WE SAID THIS. 
          IF THE PERSON WHO MADE THE MOTION, NOT NECESSARILY THE CHAIR, THE FIRST PERSON WHO HAD MADE THE MOTION AGREES WITH THAT. 
          WE CALL IT A FRIENDLY, YOU RESTATE IT CLEARLY SO THAT YOU REPORT IT IN OUR MINUTES AS MODIFIED. 
          AND THAT INCLUDES ME WITH OUR VOTE. 
          IF THERE'S AN ACTUAL AMENDMENT THAT CHANGE, SUBSTITUTE SUBSTITUTE MOTION, WE VOTE ON SUBSTITUTE MOTION AFTER THE DISCUSS. 
          AND IF IT PASSES, THAT RESOLVES THE AGENDA ITEM, IT DOESN'T PASS, WE GO BACK FOR MORE DISCUSSION ON UNDERLYING AGENDA ITEM. 
          WE MAY VOTE FOR IT OR WE MAY VOTE ANOTHER SUBSTITUTE MOTION UNTIL WE'VE FINALLY RESOLVED THE UNDERLYING MOTION AS CHAIR'S ROLE TO CALL FOR THE VOTE. 
          WE DO NOT HAVE SECRET BALLOTS IN PUBLIC HEARINGS, UH, OR ANY WITH ANY COMMISSION THAT'S REGULATED BY THE BROWN ACT. 
          SO WE'LL ALWAYS DO VOCAL VERBAL CALLS OR HAND CALL SOMETHING THAT'S PUBLIC. 
          AND IF THE VOTES AT TIE A MOTION FAILED BECAUSE MOTIONS REQUIRE A MAJORITY ACT AN ODD NUMBER HERE. 
          BUT YOU'LL OFTEN SEE WHEN A COUPLE OF MEMBERS ABSENT, YOU MIGHT FIND YOURSELF IN PLACE WHERE THERE ISN'T EVEN A THAT'S GOOD TO NOTE IN THOSE CASES THAT IT'S HIGH, THE MOTION FAILS AND THE BOARD IS NOT AUTHORIZED TO TAKE WHATEVER THAT ACTION IS. 
          THAT WAS 50,000 FEET OVER PROCEDURAL RULES. 
          UM, MY NAME IS NICK MC SARAH, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY  YOU HAVE ABOUT, UH, THE TOPICS WE JUST SAID HERE. 
          AND I'D LIKE TO COME BACK, UM, A COUPLE OF TIMES A YEAR AND PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT ROBERT VOTES OR BROWN ACT ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME UP OR THE SCOPE, THE COMMISSION OF AUTHORITY UNDER THE RULE OF LAW AND BYLAWS. 
          UM, PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT. 
          THAT'S NOT FOR TODAY THOUGH. 
          UM, TODAY YOU GOT QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS, GIMME A SHOUT. 
          THAT'S WEIRD. 
          NOW THAT CHANGED BACK HERE. 
          OTHERWISE, I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY COMMENTS? THANK YOU FOR THE FUN SLIDES. 
          AWESOME. 
          THOSE WERE SOME OF MY DEAR FRIENDS. 
          UM, MONICA AND TAYLOR WHO ARE BOTH GONE OFF THE OTHER APPOINTMENT AT THIS POINT, BUT THEY'RE GONNA LIVE FOREVER ACTUALLY. 
          VERY FIRM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THIS IS A VERY BRIEF OVERVIEW OF BOTH. 
          I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE YOU HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY IN HOW TO DO THIS. 
          MY QUESTION IS, PER EVERYTHING THAT'S AGENDA GENDERIZED, DO WE NEED TO HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE VOTE? YES. 
          WE'LL ALWAYS TAKE A MOTION AT THE BEGINNING TO PROCEED THROUGH THE AGENDA. 
          OKAY. 
          AND A SECOND. 
          AND IF WE DON'T GET A MOTION IN A SECOND THEORETICAL, THAT AGENDA ITEM DOES NOT PROCEED. 
          'CAUSE ALL THE TIMES WHAT ARE PRESENTED WITH PROBLEMS THAT WE MUST VOTE ON WITHOUT ANY TO CONTEXT. 
          WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO READ. 
          WE HAVE, SO WE'RE MAPLE KIND OF A DECISION ON SPOT. 
          AND SOME OF THESE ARE VERY HEALTHY TOPICS TO DECIDE UPON BECAUSE IT IMPACTS FUNDING AND IT IMPACTS IMPACT ACCESS. 
          SO THE QUESTION IS, IF IT'S SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA AND WE'RE NOT COMFORTABLE VOTING BECAUSE WE DON'T JUST HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION ON THAT, DO WE RECUSE OURSELVES? DO WE ASK FOR A FREE RATE? HOW SHOULD WE PROCEED? YEAH, THAT'S GREAT. 
          SO, UM, TO ANSWER THE, THE MOST BASIC QUESTION FIRST, I THINK IN THE HYPOTHETICALLY PRESENTED WHERE YOU FEEL YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION FOR THE AGENDA ITEM, MY UNDERSTANDING OF YOUR OBLIGATION WILL BE BOTH, NO, NOT PROCEED THAT ITEM BASED ON THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE, YOU DON'T FEEL CONFIDENT TAKING THE 
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ACTION OF MENTION THAT ON ITEM FOR YOU STILL. 
          THAT AS A NUMBER THAT CAN BE REVENUE BY PROVISION OF ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AT SOME OTHER TIME. 
          YOU CAN MAKE THAT SO YOUR EXCEPTION ON THE ITEM, UM, ABSTENTIONS ARE REALLY FROWNED UPON. 
          UM, AND THE MOST COMMONPLACE THAT THEY'RE APPROPRIATE IS IF YOU HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. 
          SO SAY YOU'RE DISCUSSING A CONTRACT WITH AN ORGANIZATION THAT YOU HAVE SOME OTHER ROLE WITH, YOU SHOULD RECEIVE YOURSELF FROM THAT CONVERSATION. 
          WE MAKE, WE ASK THAT YOU MAKE A BRIEF PUBLIC STATEMENT EXPLAINING WHY YOU'RE ABSTAINING FROM THE PROCESS. 
          SO WE'RE AWARDING A CONTRACT WITH, UM, SERVICE PROVIDER A AND UM, YOUR BEST FRIEND IS THE CEO OF THAT ORGANIZATION. 
          OR, UM, YOU HAVE A FINANCIAL INTEREST IN THAT RELATIONSHIP ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. 
          JUST MAKE A QUICK STATEMENT LIKE THAT, CLAIMING TO THE PUBLIC WHY YOU ARE CHOOSING YOURSELF OR A CONVERSATION. 
          DON'T NEED TO PROVIDE A LOT OF DETAIL, JUST AN EXPLAN EXPLANATORY BASIS. 
          AND THEN YOU'RE INTRODUC YOURSELF FROM THE CONVERSATION JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE, UM, SPEEDY MM-HMM . 
          ON DECISION MAKING BECAUSE IT IMPACTS LOT DEADLINES AND TIMING. 
          SO, UH, WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE FOR A READ TO ASK FOR A PRE-READ? BUT THEN AGAIN, THAT'S ONLY ME ASKING, DOESN'T ACTUALLY PROVIDE THE INFORMATION FOR THE REST OF THE, I DON'T WANNA PICK ONE WORD. 
          SO SOMETIMES I GIVE A LITTLE, I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THIS TOPIC THAT WANTS. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, SO I GUESS THAT'S MY KIND OF QUESTION OF EVERYBODY, BUT EVERYBODY LIKE A REAL COMPLEX OR A LINK TO SOMETHING THAT WE CAN READ THAT THAT INFORMATION SHOULD BE CONCLUDED WITH PART OF THE AGENDA THAT'S PART OF YOUR DELIBERATIVE PROCESS. 
          UM, AND SO IF YOU FEEL MORE INFORMATION IS NECESSARY, YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AHEAD OF TIME, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO STAFF, SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT CAN BE PROVIDED, UM, AND MADE PUBLIC. 
          UM, AND SOMETIMES THE ANSWER WILL BE YES, I'M SURE, AND SOMETIMES THE ANSWER MAY BE NO. 
          AND WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT'S AVAILABLE TO US. 
          HAVEN'T FOUND, SORRY, . 
          NO, NO, NO, NO. 
          SO BEFORE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO IN NOW, UM, SOMETIMES WE, WE SHOULD COME HERE AND THERE'S, SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE'RE UNABLE TO VOTE, BUT WE CAN STILL HAVE AN UPDATE? OR AT LEAST THE WHOLE MEETING HAS TO BE RESCHEDULED SO THAT WE'RE ALL THE MAJORITY, WE HAVE A QUORUM AND THEN WE GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE, THE SECOND ONE. 
          SO IF THERE'S NO QUORUM, THERE'S NO, AND THEN SOMETIMES DEPENDING ON THE BYLAWS AND THE, UM, RULES FOR THE PARTICULAR COMMISSION, AND I APOLOGIZE HERE, SOMETIMES A VOTE NEEDS TO BE RARELY, SOMETIMES A MAJORITY OF THE PANEL, MOST OF THE TIME IT NEEDS BE A MAJORITY OF MEMBERS PRESENT. 
          MEMBERS MEANING IN PERSON, UH, REMOTE, BECAUSE THERE'S NO REMOTE ACTUALLY, THERE'S GENERALLY NO REMOTE ACCESS WITH VERY LIMITED EXCEPTIONS. 
          IF SOMEBODY HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR REMOTE ACCESS, THEY WOULD COUNT TOWARDS QUORUM. 
          UM, BUT SAY WE HAVE I THINK 15 SLOTS HERE. 
          SO IF, UM, NINE PEOPLE SHOWED UP A MAJORITY OF THOSE THREATS AND BY SHOWED UP, I MEAN IN PERSON WERE ON AND APPROVED PT CONNECTION, UH, WE WOULD NEED FIVE TO PASS. 
          IF IT SAID A MAJORITY OF THE MEMBERSHIP, A MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSION WOULD STILL NEED, UH, EIGHT TO PASS, EVEN THOUGH ONLY NINE PEOPLE WERE PRESENT FOR THAT MEETING. 
          I SEE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU COULD CHOOSE WHICH TYPE OF MAJORITY? NO, THE, THE RULES BYLAWS OF LAWS DEFINE WHICH, AND ALMOST ALL IT'S THE PEOPLE PRESENT. 
          SEVEN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT IT? YEAH. 
          CAN YOU YES. 
          GOOD AT THAT. 
          . 
          THAT'S ME, NICHOLAS S AND I TASTE H-O-L-A-S DO H-O-F-A-S-A-F, NICHOLAS WITH AN H. 
          AND THEN LAST NAME IS MONRO, MAS AS IN SAM, ERO. 
          AND THAT IS ALSO MY EMAIL THREAD WITH A DOT QUEEN, LIKE FOR DOT SARAH@LOGBEACH.COM. 
          OTHER QUESTIONS? DID I HAVE A MOTION? SO THERE MOVE DISCUSSIONS. 
          ALL, ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM, IF YOU CAN PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND BEING NONE, 
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WE CAN DO A VOTE BY SHOW OF HANDS ALL VOTE. 
          MOTION PASSED. 
          AGENDA RECOMMENDATIONS TO, TO DISCUSS RECRUITMENT LIVING MEMBERS FOR THE LAW TO CONTINUE WITH FAIR BOARD AND ITS SUBCOMMITTEES. 
          UH, YES, . 
          SO, UM, PROCTOR ABOVE SERVICES BUREAU AGAIN, UM, WE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO VACANCIES, UM, PER CHARTER BYLAWS. 
          THE C FEDERAL FIT IN WITH THE, UH, CATEGORY OF SEATS, THE REQUIREMENT THAT THERE BE BUILT BY A RECIPIENT OF ONE, ONE OF OUR FEDERAL FUNDING STREAMS, COPE SOLUTIONS GRANTS. 
          UM, WE DO ALSO PER CHARTER, UH, BYLAWS HAVE A GENERAL MEMBERSHIP MEETING IN OCTOBER, UH, WHICH IS NEXT MONTH. 
          UH, FOR THE LAST ROUND OF CHARTER UPDATES, UM, THE CHARTER SUB BY THE OCTOBER MEETING WOULD BE HELD, UH, AT GOODWILL, UH, AS A SORT OF CO HOST EVENT TEAM WON BE CONTINUE WITH THE AND THE LONG COALITIONS AND OUR LAST ROUND OF CHART UPDATES. 
          WE ALSO SPECIFIED THAT ELIGIBILITY FOR, FOR, UM, A BOARD MEMBERSHIP, UH, BASIC BE LIMITED TO PARTICIPATION, ONE GENERAL MEMBERSHIP MEETING. 
          UM, SO, UH, A FEW THINGS THAT DISCUSS THERE. 
          AGREE, UH, DISCUSSION TO FILE. 
          ONE WOULD BE AROUND BOARD INTEREST PERCENT, UH, USE THE GENERAL MEMBERSHIP FOR AN ELECTION SINCE SOME STATEMENTS WE DID, UH, THINK , UH, WHERE WE HAVE, UM, PATENT SUPPLY, SO THE GENERAL MEMBERSHIP AND WE HELP AN ELECTION. 
          SO, UH, THOUGH THE, THE, THE  FOR THERE WOULD, WE WOULD EVEN WANT TO CREATE, UM, SUB RECIPIENTS, UH, OF THOSE FEDERAL FUND. 
          THEY WOULDN'T WANT HAVE THE SORT OF IMPORTANCE RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THESE SORT OF VOLATILITY AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL AS ANY PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY PROVIDE ANY SERVICES PROVIDING SORT OF WITH THOSE, THOSE FUNDING SOURCES, UM, TO HAVE THEIR INPUT INTO THE ORDER DECISIONS AND POLICIES, THEM, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, DOES THE IMPACT THAT THOSE, UH, MENTIONED, UM, WOULD BE, WOULD BE IMPACT BY FEDERAL. 
          UH, SO LET'S REPORT AND COPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR SORT VERY  COMMENT. 
          UM, UH, SO I HAVE A FRIEND WHO'S INTERESTED. 
          UM, I FOUND THE, YOU KNOW, GET, GET INVOLVED SECTION ON THE WEBSITE AND FORWARD THAT TO THEM. 
          UM, ANY OTHER INFORMATION I NEED TO GIVE THEM, OR I GUESS I CAN TELL THEM TO EXPECT TO BE VOTED ON AT THAT MEETING. 
          AND SO MAYBE HAVE THEIR RESUME WHERE, YEAH. 
          UH, WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN ERROR, UM, . 
          SO THERE'S, THERE'S A NOMINATION, UH, THE NOMINATION PROCESS, SELF ATE. 
          UM, THERE'S SORT OF AN APPLICATION RESUME THAT CANDIDATES WOULD COMPLETE, CAN SEND OUT AN EMAIL WITH THE LINK AS WELL, THAT MEMBERSHIP NOTICE, UH, JUST INFORM PEOPLE THAT THEY UNDERSTOOD INFORMATION REPORT, THEY WOULD APPLICATION WOULD  BOARD MEETING. 
          AND THEN, UH, WE ALSO WOULD VET THE, THE APPLICATIONS THAT ARE RECEIVED AND THEN PRESENT APPLICATIONS TO, TO THE BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION BASED ON, I BELIEVE THAT'S THE, THE QUALIFICATIONS OF DECISION. 
          REMIND ME MY MEMORY. 
          WE ALSO MENTIONED POTENTIALLY BEING ABLE TO INCLUDE PARTICIPATION IN, IN THE SUBCOMMITTEES AS ALSO THAT'S TRUE. 
          WE HAVE NOT STILL NOT HAD ANY OF OUR, SO PLAN WIDE, UH, ANOTHER REMINDERS COMMITTEE. 
          UH, WE HAVE BOARD, UH, BOARD MEMBERS IDENTIFY ATION OF SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          UM, SOMEONE WOULD LIKE ADDITIONAL SUB MEMBERS CHARTER, UM, COMMITTEE MEMBERS CAN'T GET APPOINTED BY THE BOARD, SO THEY BY ORGANIZATION, UM, PARTNER AGENCIES IF THEY WANT SUBCOMMITTEES,  FOR SUBSIDIES. 
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UM, AND WE CAN PROVIDE AN UPDATE, UH, ADDITIONAL MEMBERSHIP OF, UM, ADDITIONAL, UM, SUB, UH, MEMBERSHIP. 
          UH, BUT WE NOW WE CAN GRAB COMMITMENTS FOR, FOR SUB OR TO BOARD MEMBERS FOR SUBMITTING THAT. 
          UM, FIVE ESSENTIALLY TO RECEIVE. 
          UM, CAN YOU JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE COMMENT RECRUITMENT STRATEGY, HOW WE REACH OUT TO FOLKS? SO LET AVAILABLE FIVE, SEVERAL. 
          FIVE. 
          UH, IN THE PAST WE'VE BEEN, UH, COMMUNICATIONS HAVE GENERAL MEMBERSHIP, SO FORUM OF THEIR VACANCIES. 
          UM, WE HAVE HAD SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME TARGETED CONVERSATIONS BOTH  CANDIDATES, UM, FAR AS BOARD MEMBERS RECRUITING. 
          YOU ALL PROBABLY SEE  SALESFORCE RECRUIT CANDIDATES, BUT, UM, NOT SEEING , OUR WORKERS AT ALL. 
          UH, WHAT LOCATION PROCESS FOR QUESTIONS? WE HAVE DISCUSSIONS. 
          OVERRULED. 
          ANY MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE WISH TO COMMENT? HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ? UH, IT'LL BE, NO, IT'LL, IT COULD BE SHOW OF HANDS. 
          HE'S READY. 
           FAVOR. 
          ANYONE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. 
          ADAM, SUPPORT RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE FILE. 
          THE IFC, INTERNET ANGELES, THE GOVERNMENT POLICIES MANAGEMENT  EVALUAT SHEET. 
          UH, AGAIN, JUDGE PROCTOR. 
          UM, SO THE AGENDA ITEMS, UH, HERE TODAY, UM, HAVE  EACH OTHER, UH, WHICH WE SEE ON THE AGENDA, THIS PRESENTATION ON THAT QUALITY PLAN, CHARTER UPDATES, UH, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UM, SORT OF BOARD RESPONSIBILITIES AMONGST BOARD RESPONSIBILITIES, THE ANNUAL REVIEW OF THAT QUALITY PLAN REVIEW, CHARTER BYLAWS, REVIEW SAFETY POLICY NEEDS,  THAT USUALLY THOSE THINGS HAPPEN , UM, BUT FOR IT. 
          UM, AND THERE ARE OTHER SORT FEEDERS OR INPUTS INTO POSSIBLE CHANGES TO OUR DATA QUALITY PLAN. 
          OUR CHARTER OF BYLAWS, UM, THE LOSS OF SECURITY PERSON TO PRESENT ON SORT, JUST GENERAL, UH, HOMELESS GOVERNANCE, UH, ACROSS THE COUNTY WITH LOS ANGELES AND NEVADA GOVERNANCE. 
          UH, SOME THINGS THAT OUR CHARTER OF BYLAW IS, UH, RELATION WITH EXTRA ORGANIZATIONS. 
          I KNOW  CITY BEACH, UH, CARE WON BEACH FOR CITY COUNCIL. 
          UM, BUT THERE ARE THESE PIVOTAL RELATIONSHIPS WITH  CITIES LIKE THE COUNTY, LIKE WITH VAA, UH, AND RIGHT NOW WITH OUR ATLANTA DATA MERGER, REALLY A LOT OF THAT DISPEN BUILDING FURTHER IS THE NEED FOR WHAT THAT CONNECTION LOOKS LIKE. 
          SO THIS IS KIND OF GOING TO BE BOTH INFORMATIONAL AS WELL AS TRULY INFORM, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT WE'RE DOING. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD. 
          EVERYONE? UM, MY , UM, AND OUR DEPARTMENT, UH, JAMES IS OUR C POLICY COUNCIL. 
          WE HAVE THE COC COURT, UM, AND THE YOU STAFF SUPPORT THOSE COURT. 
          SO WE WORK MORNING EVERYONE. 
          PROJECT BI ISSUE HER AND ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR OF COC PLANNING. 
          BEEN WITH VA FOR 10 YEARS, MOST OF THE TIME, FOCUSED ON THE  CARE. 
          REALLY HAPPY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND I ALSO, I   WELCOME. 
          UH, YEAH. 
          GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          THIS, UM, SO FIRST FOR TODAY. 
          OH, GREAT. 
          UM, SO WE WANNA DO A LITTLE BACKGROUND FOR YOU, OVERVIEW OF CELL, SEE HOW WE INTERPRETED 
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AND HOW IT'S THAT OUR , UM, THAT'LL KIND OF GIVE YOU THE BACKDROP FOR THAT. 
          UH, PROVIDING AN OVERVIEW OF OUR GOVERNANCE, THE PERMIT ENTRY CS, UM, AND EVIDENCE AROUND H. 
          UM, WE ARE JOINED ON THE PHONES, I THINK BY, UM, ICF, WHICH IS, UM, UH, ONE OF THE LARGEST S TECHNICAL  PROVIDERS. 
          UH, WE'VE GOT ALYSSA, MIKE, MAYBE GREG ON, UM, THEY ARE EXPERTS WHO WORK ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, UM, WITH DIFFERENT COCS ON THEIR HMIS, UH, GOVERNANCE AND ALSO THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. 
          UM, AND SO THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, UM, BOSTON, THE LA CSC THE LAST YEAR AROUND, UM, UH, RESTRUCTURING OUR GOVERNANCE THAT IT MAKES SENSE FOR REGION WE GIVING THEM THAT HMIS CROSS OVER, UM, MULTIPLE FIELD FEEDS. 
          UM, AND SO WE'LL GET TO THAT A LITTLE BIT, UM, AND HOPEFULLY WE HEAR THEM. 
          WE CHIME IN AUDIO. 
          ALEXA, UH, MIKE, ARE YOU THERE? HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME? OH, GREAT. 
          YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALYSSA PARISH AND GRACE , UH, FROM IT. 
          GREAT. 
          HEY EVERYONE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, FIRST OFF, CONTINUUM OF CARE. 
          I PROBABLY DON'T PROBABLY ALL WHAT A COC IS, BUT WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL GROUNDED, UM, AROUND WHAT THE DOES WHO IT IS. 
          UM, SO LOT DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDER, WHICH REALLY, UH, THE COC APPROACH, AS YOU ALL KNOW, MOST LIKELY WHEN HU UM, FORMALIZED THE COC. 
          UM, AND, UH, AFTER THE SERIOUS TESTING THE APPROACH, IT WAS REALLY ABOUT THE COURTESY, THE SOCIAL OF PROBATION IN ORDER, UH, TO WORK, TO WORK TOWARDS  AND WITH THIS. 
          UM, AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, C CS BY, BY THE REGULATIONS IN THE COC INTERIM RULE ARE CHARGED WITH OPERATE COC PLANNING FOR THE COC, DESIGNATING AND OPERATING HIS AND FUNDING, UM, IMP SHIP WITH A VERY WELL LIST OF STAKEHOLDERS WHO A LOT OF YOU REPRESENT, UM, IN LA OUR STRUCTURE. 
          UM, IT'S BEEN COMPLICATED AND THIS IS BY NO MEANS, UM, EVERYTHING. 
          IT'S NOT COMPREHENSIVE, BUT IN TERMS OF WHEN WE'RE TALKING JUST ABOUT THE COC PROGRAM AND THE REGULATIONS AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THAT PROGRAM, UM, THIS IS HOW WE STRUCTURED OURSELVES. 
          UM, OH, THANKS PAUL. 
          UM, WE'VE GOT THE, UM, UM, WE'VE GOT THE COMMISSION, UM, THE LOSS OF COMMISSION, WHICH IS . 
          WE'VE GOT THE LOSS OF COMMISSION, WHICH IS, UM, UH, MISSION APPOINTED BY, UH, HALF CITY OF LOS ANGELES, HALF CANADA, LOS ANGELES. 
          SO THE COD IS, UH, FOR THE LA IS ALL OF LA COUNTY AND MINUS ONE BEACH DALE. 
          UM, AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE COC BOARD AND THE CS POLICY COUNCIL, UM, TO WHICH REPORT UP TO THE COMMISSION AND RECOMMENDED POLICIES FOR THE COMMISSION'S, YOU KNOW, RATIFICATION OR . 
          UM, LOSSA, WE ARE THE, UH, LOSS OF STAFF. 
          WE ARE THE LEAD AGENCY FOR THE COT. 
          WE'RE THE COLLABORATIVE APPLICANT. 
          WE'RE ALSO THE AGENT AGAINST LEAD, UM, AND ALSO THE MANAGEMENT ENTITY FOR THE COORDINATED ENTRY SYSTEM TO ALL ARE AWARE. 
          UM, WE ALSO HAVE ADVISORY BODIES, ADVISORY BOARDS OF LIVED EXPERIENCE EXPERTS. 
          UM, SO WE'VE GOT THE LIVED EXPERIENCE ADVISORY BOARD, AND WE ALSO HAVE THE HOMELESS YOUTH FORUM OF LOS ANGELES TO, TO ADVISE ON, UM, MATTERS AFFECTING AND TRANS YOUTH. 
          UM, AND SO THINGS WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT TODAY ARE REALLY ABOUT HMIS GOVERNANCE AND CES GOVERNANCE, WHICH CROSS OVER MULTIPLE COCS. 
          AND SO JUST THIS GRAPHIC HOPEFULLY HELPS TO, UM, ILLUSTRATE JUST WHERE THOSE, UM, PARTICULAR POLICY MATTERS AND ISSUES ARE SORT OF STRUCTURED IN THE SAME WITHIN OUR, UM, SO THE COC BOARD OVERSEE HMIS, UM, AND THE CS POLICY COUNCILS  ENTRY PROCEDURES. 
          AND THEN, UM, UH, WE, UH, JUST SORT OF, SORT OF SUMMARIZED WITH HOW ALL FOUR CSCS IN LA COUNTY, UM, PARTICIPATE IN THEIR CSS OR H HM. 
          UM, WE'VE GOT, WE, UH, WHAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT SOON IS THAT ON, WHEN IT COMES TO H MINUS S, WE HAVE NOW, UM, THE FIRST TIME ALL FOUR STUDENTS, STUDENTS ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE SAME INSTANCE OF H MINUS SAME IMPLEMENTATION. 
          SO WE'RE USING THE SAME VENDOR, UM, AND WE'RE, UH, ALL DATA IS BEING, UH, HAS BEEN INTEGRATED AND MIGRATED TO USING SAFE SYSTEMS. SO THAT'S A REALLY POWERFUL TOOL FOR, UM, CARE COORDINATION ACROSS THE T JURISDICTIONS. 
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UM, WHEN IT COMES TO CS, IT'S A BIT MORE COMPLICATED. 
          UM, AND KIM WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT, LIKE  POPULATIONS, UM, THE LEVEL OF PARTICIPATION THAT YOU, OKAY. 
          AND THEN TURN THINGS OVER TO KIM, TALK ABOUT POLICY COUNCIL. 
          SO, UM, OUR POLICY COUNCIL, OR COORDINATED ENTRY SYSTEM POLICY COUNCIL, UM, HAS KINDA THREE MAIN OBJECTIVES. 
          ONE IS TO DOCUMENT THE STANDARD POLICIES AND PROCEDURES FOR COORDINATED ENTRY. 
          UM, THIS IS A, A HU UH, A REQUIREMENT FOR COCS. 
          THEY NEED, THERE NEEDS TO BE A BODY THAT'S, THAT'S DOCUMENTING THOSE STANDARD POLICY PROCEDURES. 
          WE ALSO ARE LOOKING TO ACHIEVE ALIGNMENT ON THE CORE TENETS OF CES, UH, OF, OF CROSS THE BODY. 
          SO THAT'S THOSE CORE TENANTS OR ACCESS ASSESSMENT, PRIORITIZATION AND REFERRAL. 
          IN LA WE OFTEN CALL THAT REFERRAL STAGE MATCHING. 
          UM, WE ALSO, UH, ARE SEEKING THAT ALIGNMENT ON HOW TO BEST DESIGN, COORDINATE, EVALUATE, AND MANAGE THEIR RESOURCES AND SERVICES WITHIN LA COUNTY, COORDINATED ENTRY. 
          AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING FOR POLICIES THAT SEEK TO ENSURE THAT INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS ARE SERVED CONSISTENTLY THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM, REGARDLESS OF THEIR CHARACTERISTICS OR GEOGRAPHY. 
          YOU KNOW, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ACCESS TO THE RESOURCE IS FAIR . 
          SO THOSE ARE, ARE THE CORE OBJECTIVES OF POLICY COUNCIL AND WHAT WE'RE SEEKING TO DO. 
          UM, THIS NEXT SLIDE IS REALLY A TIMELINE OF HOW WE GOT TO OUR, UM, CURRENT KIND OF GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE FOR CES POLICY COUNCIL, AS WELL AS OUR, OUR CURRENT POLICY AND GUIDANCE, UM, SITUATION. 
          SO WHERE WE'RE AT, SO I'LL GO THROUGH KIND OF THE TOP, WHICH IS THE GOVERNANCE AND THEN THE BOTTOM, WHICH IS THE POLICY. 
          SO, UM, CES POLICY COUNCIL AND SAYS, AND THE CC BOARD WERE ESTABLISHED, UM, AT A STATE LINE BY THE CITY AND COUNTY TO CONTROL THE VIABILITY COUNCIL, OR WAS  REFERRED TO AS THE RACK. 
          UM, THAT, THAT WAS THE 2017. 
          IN 2021, THE RACK WAS SUSPENDED AS IT KIND OF, UM, THE BODY DECIDED THAT IT HAD SERVED ALL OF ITS, UH, PURPOSES. 
          UM, IN 2022, THE BLUE RIBBON COMMISSION ON HOMELESSNESS, UH, ISSUED A REPORT AFTER STUDYING HOMELESSNESS AND THE LIKE, HOMELESSNESS, GOVERNANCE AND, AND LOTS OF OTHER ISSUES RELATED HOMELESSNESS. 
          UM, AND RECOMMENDED CLEAR GOVERNANCE STRUCTURES FOR LA INCLUDING A MORE FORMAL ACCOUNTABILITY FOR STR ACCOUNTABILITY STRUCTURE FOR THE L-A-C-E-S POLICY COUNCIL. 
          SO ONCE THE ROCK WAS SUSPENDED, UM, POLICY COUNCIL DID KIND OF FLOAT A LITTLE BIT WITHOUT CLEAR, UH, ACCOUNTABILITY STRUCTURES. 
          UM, SO IN 2023, THE, UM, CONNECTION TO THE LOSS OF COMMISSION AND, AND I KNOW CREATING THAT CLEAR STRAIGHT LINE TO COMMISSION FOR, UM, APPROVAL OF OUR POLICIES WAS, UM, ESTABLISHED THROUGH OUR ANNUAL A COC CHARTER. 
          UM, AND THEN IN, ONCE THAT KIND OF FORMAL, UH, FORMAL CONNECTION WAS ESTABLISHED, WE MOVED FORWARD WITH ESTABLISHING FORMAL BYLAWS FOR THE BODY, UM, WHICH WE HAD NOT PREVIOUSLY HAD. 
          UM, AND THEN OUR, OUR POLICY APPROACH THAT WE'VE TAKEN. 
          SO IN 2017, WE, UM, SOME INITIAL POLICIES WERE DEVELOPED IN ORDER TO MEET THOSE HEAD REQUIREMENTS AROUND ACCESS ASSESSMENT REFERRAL, UH, OR REQUIRED CITATION AND REFERRAL. 
          UM, AND THEN IN 2021 WHEN THERE WERE A LOT OF NEW RESOURCES COMING ONLINE, PARTICULARLY AROUND THE EMERGENCY HOMELESS VOUCHERS, UM, UH, WE FOUND THAT, THAT WE NEEDED TO KIND OF UPDATE OUR POLICIES IN ORDER TO MEET THE MOMENT. 
          AND IT WAS A PRETTY CUMBERSOME PROCESS TO UPDATE THE POLICIES. 
          THERE'S, UM, A PERIOD OF LIKE REALLY BROAD OPEN PUBLIC, UH, PARTICIPATION, RIGHT, WHERE FOLKS CAN WRITE IN, UM, UH, IF THERE'S A LOT OF UP UPPER LEVEL OF APPROVALS THAT HAVE TO GO INTO KIND OF POLICY MOMENTS, POLICY CHANGES. 
          AND, AND WE FOUND THAT IT WAS REALLY CUMBERSOME TO GET THOSE POLICY CHANGES DONE QUICKLY IN ORDER TO MEET THE MOMENT. 
          AND SO WE STARTED TO, TO ADJUST OUR PROCESS TO A MORE PRINCIPLE-BASED POLICIES. 
          SO OUR POLICIES WOULD REFLECT IN THIS, IN 2022, THESE KIND OF VALUE-BASED POLICIES OR PRINCIPLE-BASED POLICIES, UM, WE UPDATED ALL POLICIES TO DO THAT. 
          UM, SO THEY WERE REFLECTING SYSTEM VALUES AND COULD REMAIN STABLE AND THAT WE COULD USE GUIDANCE. 
          UM, SO LIKE A, HAVING BOTH POLICY AND GUIDANCE IN THOSE GUIDANCE LEVEL DOCUMENTS BEING, UM, A LITTLE MORE DETAILED, A LITTLE MORE NUANCED, BUT DIDN'T REQUIRE, DIDN'T HAVE THE SAME KIND OF, UH, TOTAL, UH, LIKE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT STEPS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR POLICY UPDATES. 
          UM, THEY STILL ARE DISCUSSED PUBLICLY IN OUR CS POLICY COUNCIL. 
          THEY OFTEN, UM, INCLUDE WORK GROUPS THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, EVEN A BROADER MEMBERSHIP THAN, UM, 
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THAN JUST THE MEMBERS OF OUR CES POLICY COUNCIL. 
          BUT, UM, WE COULD MOVE A LITTLE BIT FASTER IN ORDER TO MEET WHATEVER NEW POLICY MOMENT WE WERE, WE WERE FACING. 
          UM, AND SO ONCE ALL THOSE VALUE BASED PRINCIPLE BASED POLICIES ARE PASSED IN 2022, WE MOVED ON TO THE GUIDANCE DEVELOPMENT, GETTING INTO THE WE A LITTLE BIT. 
          AND, AND IT'S NOT QUITE, IT'S NOT, UM, AS CONCEALED AS A PROCEDURES DOCUMENT WITH ME. 
          THE GUIDANCE STILL IS A LITTLE BIT, UH, MID-LEVEL, UM, AND THEN OUR PROCEDURES THAT IT ALLOWS SOME FLEXIBILITY OF VASA, UM, TO IMPLEMENT, SAY LIKE, THIS, THIS RESOURCE HAS THIS REQUIREMENT, SO WE'RE GONNA ADJUST THE WAY THAT WE IMPLEMENT THIS REQUIREMENT AND SO TO, TO MEET EACH UNIQUE RESOURCE, UM, REQUIREMENT. 
          UM, AND THEN ONCE WE GOT ALL OF THOSE INITIAL GUIDANCES PASSED, WE'VE ADOPTED, UM, A NEW KIND OF APPROACH TO POLICY AND GUIDANCE DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? THAT THIS, THIS CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT MOMENT, SO FROM 27TH INTO 20 21, 20 POLICIES WERE STATIC. 
          AND OUR, OUR IMPLEMENTATION WAS KIND OF ONE SIZE FITS ALL. 
          UM, AND SINCE ADOPTING SMALL PRINCIPAL BASED POLICIES WITH, WITH FLEXIBLE AND RESPONSIVE GUIDANCE DEVELOPMENT, WE CAN DO A MUCH MORE, UM, LIKE ONGOING CONTINUOUS QUALITY IMPROVEMENT WITH OUR POLICIES AND GUIDANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR, OUR, UH, WE CAN MEET WHATEVER RESOURCE MOMENT WE HAVE. 
          UM, AND SO SOME OF THAT'S KIND OF OUTLINED HERE, BOTH THE POLICY GUIDANCE, PROCEDURE AND IMPLEMENTATION. 
          SO, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT POLICIES AND GUIDANCE. 
          SO I'LL JUST BRIEFLY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF REMIND US. 
          SO POLICIES ARE REALLY VALUE BASED. 
          WHAT ARE, WHAT DO WE VALUE AS A CONTINUUM, AS A COORDINATED ENTRY SYSTEM? UM, IT'S THINGS LIKE PARTICIPANT CHOICE, UM, NOT DISCRIMINATION, BUT PRETTY, PRETTY HIGH LEVEL GUIDANCE IS WHERE WE START TO GET INTO THE DETAILS MORE OF, UM, SO WE THINK ABOUT OUR, OUR ACCESS POLICY. 
          WHAT ARE, WHAT KINDS OF, UH, PLACES ARE WHERE YOU CAN ACCESS COORDINATED ENTRY RESOURCES? WHAT, UM, IS IT ANY, IS IT LIKE THE NO FRONT DOOR APPROACH OR NO WRONG DOOR APPROACH WHERE EVERY POSSIBLE PLACE THAT SOMEONE EXPERIENCES, SO IS THE RIGHT IS, IS IT IS A DOOR, OR DO WE HAVE PARTICULAR ACCESS CENTERS? THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          AND BEING ABLE TO BE FLEXIBLE WITH THAT. 
          UM, PROCEDURES IS WHERE WE START TO GET INTO THE MORE NITTY GRITTY DETAILS. 
          UM, WE HAVE THESE FOR KIND OF OUR ONBOARDING RESOURCES. 
          AND THEN ANYTIME A NEW RESOURCE COMES ONLINE AND RESOURCE TYPE, WE WILL UPDATE. 
          WE WILL CREATE A NEW PROCEDURES DOCUMENT IF, IF WE NEED TO UPDATE THE PROCEDURES FOR ANY OF OUR ONGOING RESOURCES, BECAUSE WE CAN SEE CHANGES IN THE LANDSCAPE, WE CAN DO THAT. 
          AND THEN IMPLEMENTATION, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE TEAM THAT'S ACTUALLY TAKING THOSE PROCEDURES AND DOING THE WORK TO MATCH PEOPLE TO WHEN IT FORTH HOUSING RESOURCES AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UM, SO OUR LIST OF APPROVED POLICIES AND GUIDANCES ARE ON THE SCREEN. 
          WE HAVE OUR ACCESS ASSESSMENT FOR PRIORITIZATION AND MATCHING POLICIES. 
          WE'VE GOT OUR PLANNING POLICIES, SO AFFIRMATIVE MARKETING, COORDINATION AND EVALUATION. 
          AND THEN, UM, WE STILL, OUR, OUR INTERIM POLICY AND EMERGENCY HOUSING VOUCHER STILL STANDS. 
          UM, ALTHOUGH IT IS NOT WORTH KIND OF AS MUCH THESE DAYS. 
          UM, SOME OF OUR GUIDANCE THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED, THERE'S AN ACCESS GUIDANCE AND ASSESSMENT GUIDANCE OF PSH PRIORITIZATION AND MATCHING GUIDANCE, AND THEN SEVERAL OTHER PRIORITIZATION AND MATCHING GUIDANCES FOR OTHER TYPES OF RESOURCES. 
          SO, UM, INTERIM HOUSING, HOUSING NAVIGATION AND TIME LIMITED SUBSIDIES, WHICH  RAPID, UM, AS WELL AS OUR TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, UH, POLICY AND GUIDANCE. 
          AND THEN, UH, PERMANENT HOUSING TRANSFER POLICY. 
          SO IF SOMEONE NEEDS TO KIND OF CHANGE, THEY'RE ALREADY IN HOUSING, THEY NEED TO CHANGE THE LEVEL OF CARE THAT THEY'RE RECEIVING. 
          UM, THE KIND OF THE POLICY GUIDANCE WE'RE HAVING TO THAT IS THERE, UH, THE CURRENT WORK OF POLICY COUNCIL, THE, THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW, UM, WE JUST WRAPPED UP KIND OF OUR ORGANIZATIONAL AND MANAGEMENT. 
          UH, UH, COULD, WE HAD AN AD HOC COMMITTEE THERE, UM, THAT LOOKED AT KIND OF SETTING UP CHAIRS, VICE CHAIRS, DO WE NEED A SECRETARY? UH, DO WE NEED TO MAKE A NEW ASSIGNMENTS TO OUR ATTENDANCE EXPECTATIONS? UM, WE HAD A, A WORK GROUP THAT SUPPORTED THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE LA ACT, WELL, THE LA HOUSING ASSESSMENT TOOL, WHICH WAS A, A NEW, UM, ASSESSMENT THAT WAS DEVELOPED BY THE CES TRIS TOOL RESEARCH AND REFINEMENT GROUP, WHICH WAS A, UM, A GROUP THAT CAME OUT OF A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON BLACK PEOPLE EXPERIENCING LESSNESS IN 2017 OR 2018, UM, TO DEVELOP A TOOL THAT HAD, UM, LESS, UH, THAT HAD OUTCOMES THAT WERE LESS, UH, RACIALLY SKEWED. 
          SO WHAT, AND IF THEY DID AN ASSESSMENT, THEY FOUND THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, FOLKS IN SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCES BUT OF DIFFERENT RACES WOULD GET DIFFERENT SCORES. 
          AND THAT THAT WAS LEADING TO UNEQUAL HOUSING OUTCOMES. 
          SO THE, THIS NEW TOOL WAS DEVELOPED BY THAT SAME GROUP THAT DID THAT RESEARCH, UM, AND, UH, 
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ADJUSTED FOR, UH, KIND OF TRIED TO MAKE ITS BEST TO ACCOUNT FOR, UM, FOR ALL OF THOSE THINGS IN THE WAY THAT IT KIND OF RESCORED. 
          AND, UH, DID THAT WORK JUST IN THE EARLY PHASES OF IMPLEMENTATION? SO WE HAVEN'T, UM, YET SEEN KIND OF THE, THE OUTCOMES OF, OF DID IT KIND OF SOLVE THE PROBLEM WE WERE HOPING IT WOULD SOLVE. 
          WE'RE STILL, WE'RE STILL IN THE DATA GATHERING PHASE OF THAT, BUT WE HAD A COMMITTEE HELPING US TO IMPLEMENT THAT TOOL AND, AND GET THAT OFF THE GROUND. 
          UM, WE HAVE A, A WORK GROUP THAT HELPS US EVALUATE PSH DATA. 
          HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FOR PEOPLE TO GET IN? WHO'S GETTING IN? UM, OUR PEOPLE STAYING IN IN PSH. 
          SO IT'S KIND OF A WORK OF THAT. 
          WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AND, AND THEN BRING TO POLICY COUNCIL. 
          UM, ANY, AND THEN MY SECOND COMMITTEE WAS SPORTS GROUP, BUT BRING POLICY COUNCIL ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW WE MIGHT NEED TO CHANGE OUR POLICIES AROUND PSH PRIORITIZATION AND MATCHING TO BE, TO KIND OF, UH, BETTER ACHIEVE OUR GOALS. 
          UM, AND THEN THERE'S A, A WORK GROUP ALSO LOOKING AT GEOLOCATION IN PSH PRE PRIORITIZATION. 
          SO HOW DO WE USE, UM, DIFFERENT LOCATION MARKERS IN OUR HMIS SYSTEM? SO WHETHER THAT'S A CURRENT LIVING SITUATION FROM AN OUTREACH TEAM OR, UM, THE, THE INTERIM HOUSING LOCATION THAT THEY'RE STAYING AT. 
          HOW DO WE CONSIDER ALL OF THOSE LOCATIONAL MARKERS IN OUR MATCHING PSH KNOWING THAT FOLKS ARE OFTEN MORE INTERESTED IN, IN HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE CLOSE TO WHERE THEY HAVE CONNECTIONS AND WHERE, WHERE THEY'VE EXPERIENCED HOMELESSNESS AND HOW DO WE FACTOR THAT INTO AND ALONG WITH ALL OF OUR OTHER, UH, PRIORITIZATION CRITERIA. 
          SO THAT'S THE, UH, THAT'S THIS POLICY ALLOWS BACK TO JA FOR, UM, ALRIGHT, SO IT COMES TO, UM, OUR GOVERNANCE CURRENT HIS. 
          UM, CURRENTLY WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE COC BOARD'S, HI COMMITTEE. 
          THAT'S HOW IT'S CURRENT STRUCTURED. 
          BUT, UM, UH, UH, NOT VERY LEAD. 
          IT'S NOT REALLY EFFECTIVE FOR A SYSTEM THAT CROSSES MULTIPLE COCS. 
          SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH  TO, UM, MAKE IT, UH, MAKE IT WORK FOR OUR JURISDICTION. 
          UM, SO JUST OVERVIEW OF HIS, UM, WITHIN LA COUNTY FOR CC THEY MENTIONED BEFORE ONE SHARED HIS WE'VE ONLY HAVING JOINED, UM, THE, THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR. 
          SO, UM, I THINK  REALLY EVERY COC, UM, THAT'S FUNDED , UM, IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DESIGNATING WITH SINGLE HOMELESS MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEM, UH, SELECTING A VENDOR, UM, DESIGNATING WITH A LEAD, MANAGE HMIS, AND THEN MAKING SURE YOU'RE REVIEWING, REVISING, AND APPROVING, UM, POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT SPEAK TO PRIVACY, SECURITY, AND . 
          UM, THERE'S A LOT MORE TECHNICAL  INTO THAT. 
          UM, UH,  SPEAK TO, UM, SO THE PAST YEAR WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH BY TA, UM, AND OUR COLLEAGUES AT ICF, UM, TO THINK ABOUT WHAT KIND OF STRUCTURE WOULD WORK OR WHAT KIND OF  STRUCTURE WOULD WORK FOR HI ASSIST ALL FOUR COCS, UM, UH, PARTICIPATE IN IT. 
          BUT ALL FOUR COCS OWN THEIR OWN, THEIR OWN HIS AND REALLY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR, UM, ADMINISTERING THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES WITHIN MENTIONED. 
          AND SO, UM, I C'S RECOMMENDATION US AFTER TALKING WITH LA PASADENA, GLENDALE, UM, AND LONG BEACH, UM, WAS TO FORMALIZE WHAT HAS BEEN INFORMALLY CALLED THE LA HMIS COLLABORATIVE. 
          UM, SO THIS WOULD MOVE, YOU KNOW, OUR CURRENT GOVERNANCE RIGHT NOW AND EVERYTHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REALLY IS SITUATED UNDER THE COC BOARD. 
          THERE'S A COMMITTEE THAT REPORTS TO THE BOARD AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD COULD THEN INFORM THE COMMISSION. 
          BUT OUR HMIS GOVERNANCE REALLY STOPS WITH OUR COC BOARD AND LA AS WE ALL KNOW, IT'S VERY LARGE. 
          AND, UM, AND SO, UH, IT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW ON OUR HIS COMMITTEE TEAM HAVE, UM, SEVERAL MEMBERS ON IT. 
          THERE'S ONE SEAT EACH FOR, UH, GLENDALE, PASADENA LONG BEACH, BUT THEN WE'VE GOT LIKE SEVEN SEATS FOR LA SO IT'S A VERY IMBALANCED SORT OF GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE, BUT WE DO HAVE THE VOICE OF THE OTHER C OF SEATS AT THE TABLE. 
          IT'S REALLY POWERFUL TO HAVE THAT FOR ALIGNMENT. 
          UM, DALTON NORTH FROM LONG BEACH, UM, UH, YOUR REPRESENTATIVE ON, ON THAT COMMITTEE. 
          UM, BUT THE SORT OF THE DIRECTION WE'RE HEADING AND, AND THIS IS, THIS RECOMMENDATION'S BEEN APPROVED BY OUR COC BOARD. 
          UM, AND DEFINITELY, UH, GLEN HAS SIGNAL SUPPORT BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND LONG BEACH AS WELL, IS THAT WE WOULD FORMALIZE SINCE L-A-H-M-I-S COLLABORATIVE AS AN ADVISORY BODY THAT IS REALLY GONNA JOIN, UH, BOTH THE TECHNICAL, UM, EXPERTISE THAT'S NEEDED FOR HIS AS LONG, UH, ALONG WITH THE PROGRAMMATIC EXPERTISE. 
          UM, AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS WHICH WE'LL GET TO IN JUST COVID. 
          AND THAT, THAT UNION OF THOSE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES IS GONNA FORM RECOMMENDATIONS FOR, UM, 
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POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, UM, THAT WOULD THEN THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, THIS COLLABORATIVE WOULD SIT OUTSIDE OF OUR COC GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE, UM, AND THEN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO EACH OF OUR RESPECTIVE BOARDS AND THEN MAKE THAT, LET THAT DECISION THEN, UH, REST WITH THIS SB STILL ADOPT OR, OR OFTEN, UM, SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE. 
          BEFORE I MOVE ON, ALYSSA OR GREG, ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD, UM, ON THIS POINT HERE, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING FROM MY PERSPECTIVE OTHER THAN JUST LIKE ECHOING THE, THE PIECE AROUND MAKING SURE THAT THE LAH MAX COLLABORATIVE COLLABORATIVE, I MEAN, IT SITS OUTSIDE OF THE COC STRUCTURE. 
          YES. 
          BUT IT SITS EQUALIST TO THEM, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          'CAUSE RIGHT NOW EVERYTHING SITS UNDER, FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, THE LA SPECIFIC COC BOARD. 
          SO JUST EMPHASIZING THAT. 
          THANKS JESS. 
          UM, AND SO THE SCOPE OF THE COLLABORATIVE WOULD REALLY BE FOCUSED ON THINGS THAT IMPACT HMI AS IMPACT SYSTEM AS A WHOLE, NOT SPECIFIC COC CONCERN. 
          SO IF THERE'S A SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW, CHANGE WITHIN HMS OR NUANCE THAT COC IS WANTING TO LOOK IN ORDER TO, YOU KNOW, EVALUATE DATA OR SOMETHING, UM, THAT WOULD STILL BE SOMETHING WITHIN YOUR OWN JURISDICTION. 
          YOU CAN MAKE THAT CHANGE ON YOUR OWN. 
          AND YOU CERTAINLY HAVE A GOVERNANCE OR AROUND THAT. 
          BUT THIS, THE SCOPE OF THE COLLAB COLLABORATIVE COULD REALLY BE ABOUT POLICY MAKING, UM, FROM AN ADVISORY PERSPECTIVE, AGAIN, HMIS POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, INCLUDING PRIVACY, SECURITY, DATA QUALITY PLANS, DATA SHARING AGREEMENTS, DATA ABUSE AGREEMENTS, VENDOR AND SOFTWARE EVALUATION, UM, WITH, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, EQUIVALENT TO ALL COCS. 
          UM, AND, UM, AND AGAIN, JUST BEING THAT PHASE FOUR CROSS CROSS COC ALIGNMENT, UM, ON MATTERS THAT IMPACT EVERYONE WITH HYS, BUT YOU WOULD STILL HAVE, UM, YOU WOULD STILL HAVE THAT AUTONOMY TO, TO THE DECISIONS FOR THINGS THAT ONLY AFFECT YOUR TWO. 
          UM, SO THAT'S, THERE'S SORT OF BEEN, THERE'S BEEN BUY-IN ON THIS STRUCTURE, UM, AND NOW IT'S REALLY WELL WHO SITS AT THIS TABLE. 
          AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE IN DELIBERATION RIGHT NOW. 
          WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE HMIS COMMITTEE AND THE COC BOARD SO FAR. 
          WE'RE OBVIOUSLY HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH YOU ALL HERE TODAY. 
          UM, WE'RE GONNA BE, UH, TALKING ABOUT THIS WITH OTHER PUBLIC TABLES, UH, FAMILY BODIES WITHIN OUR, WITHIN OUR COC. 
          WE MET WITH OUR EXPERIENCE ADVISORY BOARD, THEN THEY GET ON FRIDAY, GOT SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THERE. 
          UM, SO WHERE WE'VE LANDED IS SOMEWHERE AROUND HAVING NO MORE THAN 25 TO EIGHT MEMBERS TO THEN GET LARGER FROM THAT, THAT A BIT COMPLICATED. 
          UM, AND WITH SOME SORT OF MIX OF DEDICATED SEATS VERSUS AT LARGE SEATS, UM, WHAT WE'VE HEARD IS A LOT OF INTEREST FOR, YOU KNOW, SPECIFIC, SPECIFIC PERSPECTIVES TO BE TIED TO THE TABLE. 
          UM, AND, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN SORT OF HASHING IT OUT, IT OUT AT THIS AND MAKING EVERY SINGLE SUITE , YOU KNOW, CREATING THOSE FOR AT LARGE SO THAT THE REST OF THE MEMBERS COULD SAY, WHO'S, WHO'S MISSING AT THIS TABLE? YOU KNOW, WHAT ISSUES REALLY PERFORMANCE TODAY, WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON RIGHT NOW? WE ACTUALLY ARE MISSING WITH PERSPECTIVE PERFORMANCE RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, SO IT, IT GIVES A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY, UM, AND SOME CHURN IN, UM, IN WHO'S AT THE TABLE TO BE RESPONSIVE TO WHATEVER . 
          UM, THERE WAS A REAL INTEREST FROM OUR COMMITTEE AND BOARD AROUND THE REPRESENTATION OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT. 
          AND SO NOT WANTING TO, YOU KNOW, THIS COLLABORATIVE TO REALLY BE CO-OPTED BY SO MUCH GOVERNMENT, UH, REPRESENTATION. 
          AND SO HAVING A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF SEATS FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT OF AT LARGE SEATS, UM, AND AGAIN, MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S SOME PEOPLE REPRESENTATION FROM CALL FOR C. 
          UM, SO HOW THAT LOOKS RIGHT NOW, THIS IS VERY MUCH A DEVELOPMENT I'LL SHARE, AND I'M SORRY IT'S SO SMALL. 
          UM, THERE'S, UM, UH, SO, UH, THE, IN THE DEDICATED SEAT POOL, THERE WOULD BE FOUR DEDICATED SEAT FOR H-M-I-S-B SYSTEM ADMINISTRATORS. 
          SO THESE ARE REALLY TECHNICAL EXPERTS ON HMIS. 
          THEY CAN ADVISE ON WHAT'S FEASIBLE. 
          UM, SO IF YOU SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT THIS POLICY, WE WANNA LOOK AT THIS, WE WANNA SEE THIS DATA. 
          THEY'RE THE ONES TO SAY LIKE, WHAT CAN WE DO THAT? AND THEN WITHIN HMIS AND WITH THE DATA STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY IN ACCORDANCE WITH HU RIGHT? THEN YOU'VE GOT FOUR SEATS FOR COC LEADERSHIP. 
          SO ONE FOR EACH SEAT, UM, FOUR SEATS FROM HOMELESS SERVICE PROVIDERS, OF WHICH RIGHT HERE IT SAYS ONE, AT LEAST ONE PERSON ALSO HAVING LIVED EXPERIENCE HOMELESSNESS. 
          UM, AND THEN ONE SEAT FOR A PARTICIPANT, HMIS. 
          AND THIS IS ALSO SOMEONE WHO LIVED EXPERIENCE FOOD DATA IN HMIS AND WOULD ALSO BE A USER OF HIS THROUGH THEIR, THE CLIENT PORTAL BEING ROLLED OUT, 
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OR I THINK THIS, UM, IS OPERATIVE RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, AND THEN SEATS FOR, UM, THE CITY OF LA UH, BUREAU OF HOMELESS PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT. 
          THAT'S THE BUREAU THAT IS CONSOLIDATING ALL , THE CITY OF A, UM, THE DEPART ONE SEAT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF HOME SERVICES AND HOUSING. 
          THAT'S THE DEPARTMENT OF THE COUNTY. 
          THAT'S NOT ALL THE HOMELESS WORK THERE, THERE, EXCUSE ME, ONE SEAT FOR THE COORDINATED ENTRY LEAD OR FROM CCFS POLICY COUNCIL, AND THEN ONE SEAT FOR THE COUNTY'S CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICE. 
          THIS IS THE OFFICE THAT HAS REALLY LOOKING AT ALL THE DATA INTEGRATION WORK THAT'S HAPPENING, UM, CLIENTS WITH THE STATE, UH, IN  ABOUT ALL THE DATA INTEGRATION THAT NEEDS TO TO HAPPEN. 
          SO HAVING THAT PERSPECTIVE THERE. 
          UM, AND THEN, UH, A ALONG, UH, AN OPEN BALANCE OF SEEDS FOR, UM, AT LARGE MEMBERS, WHICH COULD BE DRAWN. 
          THIS IS NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST, BUT, UM, FROM ANY ONE OF THESE ENTITIES. 
          THE FEEDBACK WE'VE HEARD SO FAR FROM OUR EXPERIENCE ADVISORY REPORT BOARD IS THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH LIVED EXPERIENCE ON THE DEDICATED, UH, SEED SIDE UNTIL THEY REALLY DON'T SEE MORE DEDICATED SEATS. 
          BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH LIVED EXPERIENCE IS CALLED OUT ON THE, AT LARGE SITE, UH, SIDE OF THINGS, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT BOTH THE EXPERIENCE WOULD SHOW UP. 
          SO WE, UM, WE HAVEN'T, WE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A DIFFERENT SLIDE, UM, BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY SHOWING THAT TO OUR COMMITTEE AND BOARD TOMORROW. 
          SO WE DIDN'T WANNA, UH, WE DIDN'T WANNA, UH, UH, PRESENT THAT BEFORE WE'VE GOTTEN A CHANCE TO SHARE IT WITH THEM. 
          BUT WE DO HAVE SOME SUGGESTIONS FOR HOW TO CHANGE SOME OF THESE DEDICATED SEATS TO PARENTS AND SEE THAT THERE'S AT LEAST FOUR  MEMBERS ON THE DEAD SIDE OF THINGS. 
          UM, AND THEN THAT STILL LEADS OPEN THE POSSIBILITY OF ADDITIONAL PHOTOS OF LIVED EXPERIENCE ON IN THE OUT R SEAT. 
          UM, SO THIS IS VERY MUCH IN FLUX. 
          WE STILL HAVE TO PRESENT TO RCS POLICY COUNCIL, OUR LAST COMMISSION. 
          UM, SO I EXPECT THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE FINAL, UM, COMPOSITION, UM, TO US TO HOPEFULLY BUILD SOME CONSENSUS AROUND SOMETIME IN THE NEXT, UM, MONTH OR TWO. 
          AND THEN, UM, OUR NEXT STEPS THERE WOULD BE TO DRAFT, ONCE WE GET SOME CENSUS DONE, SORT OF ALL OF OUR CONSULTATION, UM, WE'LL DRAFT, UH, THIS INFORMATION AND ADOPT IT AS AN APPENDIX IN OUR CHARTER. 
          WE'LL POST THAT PUBLIC CHARTER, UM, FOR MEMBERS TO, UM, TO, UH, PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON. 
          THEN WE POST THE FINAL VERSION OF THE CHARTER  GENERAL MEETING, AND, UM, WE FOLLOW REV VOTE TO APPROVE THE UPDATED, UH, THE UPDATES TO. 
          SO THAT'S SORT OF WHERE WE'RE HEADED, UM, TOWARDS SOMETIME TOWARDS DECEMBER IS WHEN WE WOULD PULL THAT. 
          AND THEN IDEALLY, ALL FOUR COCS HAVE MADE SOME SORT OF RECOGNITION WITH RECOGNITION WITHIN ZIP GOVERNMENT THAT THEY RECOGNIZED THIS ADVISORY BODY TO ADVISE THEM ON HMIS. 
          UM, AND THEN WE CAN START IN EARLY 2026, UH, IF I THINK THAT INCLUDES OUR REPRESENTATION CARE THAT AFTER THAT  QUESTIONS. 
          UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THIS IS GREAT. 
          VERY COMPREHENSIVE. 
          I APPRECIATE THIS. 
          I'M ASKING ABOUT, UH, MY, MY QUESTIONS IN, IN, UH, RELATION TO THE LA HAT IMPLEMENTATION. 
          I KNOW THAT WAS, UH, SOUNDS LIKE IT WAS LIKE AN EXTERNAL GROUP WAS LIKE, HEY, WE'VE IDENTIFIED SOME DISPARITIES HERE. 
          IS THERE ANY PLAN WITHIN THIS TO DO THIS INTERNAL WORK OF TRYING TO IDENTIFY ANY OTHER SORT OF DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT THAT MIGHT BE HAPPENING AMONG THE GROUPS WITH, WITH THIS KIND OF APPLICATION, WITH THE NEW, UH, ASSESSMENT WITH THE NEW LA ? YES. 
          OR ANY, ANY, YEAH. 
          SO IT'S DEFINITELY, UM, ONGOING EVALUATION PLAN. 
          I THINK WE'RE TOO, IT'S TOO RECENTLY IMPLEMENTED FOR US TO HAVE ANY SORT OF COMPREHENSIVE DATA IN ORDER TO DO THAT ANALYSIS, BUT WE DO PLAN TO KIND OF CONTINUOUSLY EVALUATE, UM, WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE  A IS THAT WE, WE IMPLEMENTED IT AND THEN JUST KIND OF WAS LIKE MM-HMM. 
          PUT IT IN AUTOPILOT AND NO ONE LOOKED AT IT FOR SEVERAL YEARS. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND WE DON'T WANNA DO THAT AGAIN. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE WE REALLY GOT INTO HOT WATER YES. 
          WITH SOME ELEMENT THAT OUTCOME. 
          SO, UM, WE WERE, WE DEFINITELY PLAN, I THINK AFTER, I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT DATE THAT WE STARTED USING THE TOOL. 
          UM, BUT I HERE WANNA GO BACK, HOW IS IT LOOKING IN TERMS OF HOW PEOPLE ARE SCORING, HOW PEOPLE ARE GETTING MATCHED? UM, IS THIS ENOUGH DATA FOR US TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AT THIS MOMENT? OR IS, ARE YOU JUST GONNA CONTINUE KIND OF MONITORING CERTAIN AREAS THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT? SO THERE'S DEFINITELY A PLAN TO CONTINUE EVALUAT, LIKE EVALUATING THAT IN A MORE ONGOING. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I HOPE THAT THAT INCLUDES, UM, LGBTQ PLUS, UH, FOLKS IN A COMPREHENSIVE WAY. 
          YEAH. 
          IN WHATEVER WAYS THAT WE ARE CAPTURING THAT DATA, I THINK WE'RE EVALUATING ALL OF OUR DATA CAPTURED. 
          I HAVE A RESOURCE FOR YOU. 
          I EMAIL SEPARATELY. 
          THANK, THANK YOU. 
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UM, IF, IF YOU HAVE TO PULL SOMETHING THAT THE L BT OC USERS, UM, HAVE ACCESS TO AS WELL, OR IS THAT JUST FOR, UH, WELL, WE, I DON'T, WE GET, I WOULD LOOK TO JEFF, IT'S TOOL DEVELOPED FOR THE ADULTS SYSTEMS FOR ADULTS, NOT FOR , UM, LONG BEACH. 
          UM, AS YOU SAW IN ONE OF THE SLIDES, UH, ADMINISTERS THEIR OWN, IT'S ALL  SYSTEM, SO I WOULD'VE TO LOOK TO JEFF TO BE IT, WHICH YES, IF THE PERSON I'M WORKING WITH IS MATCH TO THAT HE CES RESOURCE, UM, BUT LONG BEACH, COC, UM, BY ONE, THE SERVICES BUREAU AS THE LEAD FOR ENTRY. 
          UM, AND OUR INTEREST SYSTEM BETTER MODIFIED VERSION THAT, UM, AS OUR LARGE TOOL ASSESSMENT FOR, FOR MATCHING. 
          BUT BECAUSE WE, BEYOND REMS LIKE GATE SYSTEM, MORE SIMPLE CAN TO A LOSS RESOURCE OR RESOURCE, UM, THERE ARE LIKE OFFICERS THAT ARE, HAVE A TRAINING IN BOTH ASSESSMENTS AND ARE PROBABLY APPLYING BOTH ASSESSMENTS TO DEPEND ON FOR THE, THE, I NEED  MORE OF LIKE HOW, WHAT RESOURCE THEY, I THINK WE DEFINITELY ARE OPEN TO CONVERS BRING NOT EMAIL THAT, AND THAT WILL BE A CONVERSATION FOR THIS, UM, CHANGES IN ASSESSMENT. 
          SO WE CAN BRING THAT BACK FOR, WE COULD DO A PRESENTATION LABEL ON THE THAT, UH, SUPPORT  ADOPT ANOTHER  STREAMLINED SERVICES, STREAMLINED   LOCATION. 
          GREAT. 
          HOW FAR ALONG ARE YOU ON THE GEO LOCATION PROJECT? UM, YOU ARE DEFINITELY, UH, THE GROUP HAS COME THE WORK THAT'S KIND OF A RECOMMENDATION. 
          UM, RIGHT NOW OUR DATA MANAGEMENT TEAM IS KIND OF DETERMINING IF THE RECOMMENDATION IS ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTABLE, UM, GIVEN WE HAVE TO BUILD, UH, A DATA STRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE RECOMMENDATION. 
          AND SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE A RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT PHASE TO KNOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP THE TOOLS IN THE WAY THAT THE GROUP IS RECOMMENDING. 
          UM, SO I, AND THEN I MOVED, UH, FROM LONG BEACH, UH, WAS A PART OF SOME OF THOSE ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS AROUND WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE AND USE OF THE, THE GEOLOCATION WORK. 
          SO THANKS. 
          THANK YOU, . 
          THANK YOU JESSICA. 
          AS WELL AS ALYSSA AND MIKE, THANK ME FOR THANKING ABOUT SOME CONTEXT AND TO CONVERSATION THROUGHOUT OF THE DAY AS WELL. 
          AS WE LOOK ABOUT, UH, THE LANDSCAPE CAN LAY DOWN YET GETTING A LITTLE MORE  NOW NAVIGATE PEOPLE SEEING, UH, LOSSES PUMP SOME CHANGES. 
          WE HELP THE TITLE CHOSEN TO ADMINISTER THEIR  AND STATE DOLLARS DIRECTLY THROUGH THE COUNTY CREATING A NEW DEPARTMENT. 
          LA CITY, AS YOU MIGHT HAVE SAW ON THERE, IS CREATING THEIR OWN NEW BUREAU WITHIN THEIR HOUSING DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, AS WELL AS EVEN CONVERSATIONS OF, YOU KNOW, THE POTENTIAL OF THEM CREATING AN ALL LA CITY, COC. 
          SO WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH VARIOUS, UH, STAKEHOLDERS, NEW DEPARTMENT AT THE COUNTY LEVEL, UH, WITH SOME LOSS OF REPRESENTATION AT THAT MOMENT. 
          UH, ADDITIONALLY THERE'S THE  HAS LOCAL SILICON FUND AND, UH, THE PREVENTION FUNDS THAT ARE GOING IN SOME INSTANCES DIRECT ALLOCATIONS TO CITIES. 
          UH, I THINK THERE ARE BENEFITS THAT EXIST WITHIN CITIES BEING ABLE TO MAKE LOCALIZED DECISIONS. 
          THAT BEING SAID, THERE ARE DEFINITELY RISKS AND CONCERNS, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED BY STAFF AND ZOOM IN CONVERSATIONS. 
          I'M LIKE, NO, OSA, YOU SHOULD NOT BE OCS. 
          IT'S A BAD IDEA. 
          LIKE YOU'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, IN A GOOD POSITION TO DO SO. 
          UM, SO I THINK THERE IS SIGNIFICANT CONCERN TO BE HAD THAT LIKE NATURAL FRACTURING IF YOU HAVE GOING IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. 
          UH, SO OUR CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT LIKE WE'RE, THAT NOT JUST POSSIBLE FROM LONG BEACH WAY IN AND TRYING TO ALIGN MARKET MAKES SENSE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MOVING IN THE SAME DIRECTIONS THAT OUR POLICIES ARE ALIGNED, THAT WE ARE, UH, WORKING CLOSELY WITH OUR OTHER COC PARTNERS TO KEEP 
          [01:40:01]
A SYSTEM THAT WORKS ACROSS THE COUNTY AND DOESN'T BECOME CITY BY CITY AS I THINK THERE WOULD BE A LOT, UH, IF THAT WERE TO BECOME THE CASE AS WELL AS MANY CHALLENGES FOR OUR PROVIDERS IF THEY'RE HAVING TO NAVIGATE, YOU KNOW, 10 DIFFERENT RULES, THE LEVERAGE ANOTHER STUDENT. 
          SO, UH, THAT'S A LOT OF THE CONVERSATION DURING THAT. 
          LIKE, WE'RE DOING AS MUCH EFFORT AS WE CAN TO STAY BETTER CONNECTED TO ENSURE THAT OUR POLICIES ARE ALIGNING THAT THE HMIS SPACE, THAT WE'RE FINDING WAYS TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE THOSE DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS WITH WE, I, I THINK GOING IN WITH LOSS HISTORICALLY, LOSSA HAS BEEN KIND OF THE BACKBONE OF THAT COLLABORATIVE AND MADE A LOT OF THE DECISIONS. 
          SO IT'S NICE TO SEE, UH, THAT NEW STRUCTURE COMING ONLINE. 
          UM, SAME AT THE SAME TIME, LIKE WITHOUT ALSO A LOT OF THE TOOLS THAT EXIST IN HMYS WOULD NOT BE AVAILABLE. 
          SO, UM, I THINK JOINING INTO THAT COLLABORATIVE PROVIDES A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO IMPLEMENT NEW THINGS THROUGH DATA PRACTICES, THESE STANDARDS. 
          UH, SO THERE WILL BE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, IF WE LOOK AT OUR OWN INTERNAL POLICIES TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE KEEPING THOSE IN MIND AND STAYING CONSCIOUS OF THAT AS WELL AS THAT WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY, NOT JUST WITH POTENTIAL OF REGIONAL FRACTURING, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL THAT ARE VERY CONCERNING TO DO ALL OF THE LOCAL COCS THAT MAY MAKE THINGS QUITE DIFFICULT. 
          SO LIKE HOW WE NAVIGATE THOSE DIFFICULT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE DO FACED WITH, YOU KNOW, THESE FORCED CHANGES THAT MAY BE HAPPENING. 
          LIKE, I THINK IT HAS POTENTIAL TO DO A LOT OF HARM, UH, AND TO REALLY LEAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT OF, YOU KNOW, SYSTEMS THAT WHERE THEY ARE AT MOST, THEY'RE THE MOST LEVEL AND MOST AT RISK OF NEGATIVE, YOU KNOW, REPERCUSSIONS FROM THOSE CHOICES. 
          SO YEAH, BETA AND LIKE QUESTIONS AROUND L-G-B-T-Q-I COMMUNITIES, QUESTIONS AROUND RACIAL EQUITY ARE REALLY . 
          SO LIKE WE WILL TOUCH ON SOME OF THAT LATER AS WE'RE HAVING SOME CONVERSATIONS KNOWING WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, UM, OF HOW DO WE KEEP AN EYE ON THOSE, BUT ALSO HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN STILL RECEIVE FUNDING BECAUSE WITHOUT THE FUNDING, NOBODY GETS IT. 
          SO, UM, YEAH, I THINK THERE'S, THAT'S KIND OF JUST KIND OF QUEUE UP. 
          LIKE THIS WILL BE A REOCCURRING THING, INCOMING MEETINGS, LIKE THE CONTEXT OF WHY THAT'S SO, THANK YOU PAULA FOR THAT, ABOUT THAT PART. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I HAVE ONE QUESTION. 
          I, UH, IT IS RELATED TO THE PORTAL WITH, SORRY, KIM, I ASK OH, WITH THEIR WORK FOR THE CITY OF LONG BEACH, I THINK, UM, ALYSSA, DO YOU, ARE YOU VERSED ON THE CLIENT PORTAL PIECE? UM, AND WITH LONG BEACH HAVE ACCESS TO THE CLIENT PORTAL? I AM NOT VERSED ON THAT. 
          GREG, ARE YOU IN THE KNOW ABOUT THE CLIENT PORTAL? NOT VERY WELL. 
          I THINK THERE MIGHT BE A QUESTION OF LICENSES. 
          UM, SO THAT ONE MIGHT BE ONE THAT WE WOULD NEED TO BRING UP WITH LASA FIRST. 
          UH, I THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF FIGURING OUT, UM, CONTRACTUALLY HOW THAT WORKS SO WE CAN, WE CAN TALK WITH LASA ABOUT THAT AND, UM, YOU KNOW, BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK THAT ON VACATION. 
          I'M SURE IT ALL PROBABLY GONNA ENGAGE IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS, SO AT OUR NEXT MEETING WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE INCORPORATE A PIECE A PROVIDES AN UPDATE AROUND THAT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I WAS JUST GONNA ADD, UH, WE'RE HAVING WORKED IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM FOR 36 YEARS, THERE WAS A LONG PERIOD OF TIME WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE A UNIFORM STATE SYSTEM FOR IDENTIFYING THE STUDENTS. 
          AND WHEN THEY WOULD TRANSFER FROM ONE SCHOOL SYSTEM TO ANOTHER, WE MAY LOSE THINGS, BUT S THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT TRANSFER. 
          SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO FIND WHOLE BETA HAS UNIFORMITY THAT THAT DATA IS SHARED ACROSS SYSTEMS IS GONNA BE BENEFICIAL. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, BUT IT MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE FOR KIDS, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE GET KIDS IN. 
          IF WE DIDN'T KNOW THEY'RE IN FOSTER CARE, WE'RE PRETTY BUILT WITH IT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FINDING NEW THINGS OUT, WE'RE FINDING INFORMATION ABOUT THE FAMILIES, WHEREAS IN THE PAST OR WHEN WE FINALLY GOT A SYSTEM THAT HAD SOME UNIFORMITY, WE HAD A LOT MORE INFORMATION WHEN THAT STUDENT HOLD FOR THIS. 
          THANKS FOR THAT. 
          OUR, WE, UM, WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE LA COUNTY OFFICE OF EDUCATION. 
          DR. 
          , UM, IS ON OUR, UH, H MY COMMITTEE 
          [01:45:01]
AT 54. 
          HE REALLY ELEVATED FIVE THAT POINT. 
          AND SO I KNOW THAT, UM, SHE HAD  STARTED, UH, UH, DEPUTY CHIEF  OFFICER, UM, WHO WILL OVERSEE ANY ACTION ON THAT. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU GUYS AGAIN. 
          ME, THANK YOU FOR INPUT AS WELL. 
          WOULD THAT YOU, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM, SO SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE WARDS? ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC? SAY NONE. 
          SAME. 
          NONE. 
          WE'LL, NOW THAT THIS TO A VOTE. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, WANNA VOTE? MOTION PASSES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE WILL BE BREAKING FOR LUNCH FOR 30 MINUTES I DAY. 
          THANK YOU ALYSSA AND GREG. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          HAPPY TO BE HERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU TOO, MELISSA. 
          OUR AGENDA FOR TODAY. 
          HOPE EVERYONE ENJOYED. 
          MUST. 
          ALRIGHTY, WE'RE GONNA JUMP BACK IN. 
          MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS RECOMMENDATIONS TO REVIEW AND SUBMIT FEEDBACK TO STAFF REGARDING REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL HSE DASH 2 0 2 5 OH. 
          THAT MEETING TO SEE ON THERE, , THAT 0 0 2, THE CONTINUUM OF FAIR PORTFOLIO AFTERNOON EVERYONE. 
          JEFF PROCTER SERVICES BUREAU. 
          UM, RIGHT. 
          A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT FOR THE PRESENTATION BEFORE YOU TALK RIGHT IN. 
          BUT, UM, UH, TYPICALLY WHEN, UM, EVERY YEAR UNTIL LAST YEAR, UM, BUT IS RELEASED AND NOTES PUTTING OPPORTUNITIES FOR ONE MORE FUNDING EVERY YEAR, AND TEAM OF CARE, FATHER OF APPLICANTS AGENCY, THAT RESPONSIBILITY FOR COORDINATING WITH BOARD ON A COMMUNITY PLAN FLOOR. 
          THAT APPLICATION, UM, THAT APPLICATION INCLUDES RENEWAL PROJECTS, NEW PROJECT EXPANSION PROJECTS, CONSOLIDATED PROJECTS, UM, SOLVE THOSE DIFFERENT KINDS OF, UM, CONFIGURATIONS OF, OF PROGRAMMING. 
          UM, AND HUD HAS A PROCESS FOR, UH, IDENTIFYING RENEWALS, UM, AND THE CITY, UH, BASICALLY BECAUSE HU THE TIMELINES ARE SO FAST, THE CITY HAS HAD TO KIND OF BYPASS SOME OF ITS OWN PROCUREMENT PRACTICES FOR RENEWALS, UH, IN ORDER TO GET OUR APPLICATION FOR THE NOPA. 
          UM, LAST, LAST FALL WHEN, UM, UH, THE, THE NOFO WAS RELEASED, IT WAS RELEASED WITH THE INTENT TO BE A TWO YEAR FUNDING PROGRAM. 
          SO THE, UH, BUDS INTENT AT THE TIME WAS THAT, UH, DO THE NOFO SUBMIT YOUR APPLICATION, AND THAT'S FUNDING FOR TWO YEARS. 
          NO NEED TO REAPPLY IN JULY OF THIS YEAR. 
          UH, SNAPS OFF THE SPECIAL NEEDS, UM, SPECIAL NEEDS ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS SENT OUT COMMUNICATION SAYING THAT THEY DO INTEND TO RELEASE NOFO EARLY, UH, TO RELEASE IT IN THIS YEAR. 
          THEY HAVE NOT YET SAID WHEN THAT WILL HAPPEN. 
          THERE'S LOTS OF RUMORS AND HINTS THAT IT WILL BE IMMINENT POTENTIALLY THIS MONTH. 
          UM, SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE TRYING TO FRONT LOAD AS MUCH WORK AS POSSIBLE TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT. 
          UM, WHILE WE ALSO TRY TO, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, HAVE ALL OUR P PROCESS SEEK TO ALIGN WITH CITY PROCUREMENTS, UM, AND ALSO, UH, ADDRESS SOME CITY AUDITORS AND  RECOMMENDATIONS AROUND OUR P PROCESSES. 
          SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS JUST, UM, SOME PLAN AROUND THE ORGANIZATION OF THE RFP, WHICH WILL BE CHANGED TO HOW WE'VE BEEN OUR, OUR INTENT TO RENEW PREVIOUSLY. 
          UM, THE RFP IS NOT FINAL. 
          UM, THERE'S NO NEED TO LIKE VOTE TO APPROVE THIS RFP TODAY, BUT OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU ALL TO SEE WHAT OUR THOUGHTS ARE, PROVIDE FEEDBACK, PROVIDE INPUT THAT WE'LL TRY TO INCORPORATE ALL OF THAT, UH, WHEN WE DO OUR FINAL RFP. 
          SO THAT WAS ALL THE CONTEXT, BUT WE'LL KIND OF GET INTO THE PURPOSE. 
          SO, UM, HUD DOES HAVE ITS OWN PR REQUIREMENT FOR, UH, DURING NOTEBOOK TIMES, IDENTIFY RENEWAL PROJECTS, NEW PROJECTS, ALL OF THAT. 
          UH, THERE'S TYPICALLY BEEN CO C'S HAD A REALLY SIMPLE INTENT TO RENEW THE PROCESS AS THEIR RFP CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY. 
          UH, EVERYONE HERE HAS KIND OF FLAGGED THAT, LIKE IT DOESN'T MEET CITY PROCUREMENT PRACTICES. 
          SO OUR RFP IS MEANT TO TAKE THAT INTENT TO RENEW PROCESS AND THEN HAVE IT INTEGRATE OR MATCH WITH CITY R FT . 
          SO WE'LL GOTTA GET THAT WITH, UM, ALSO WITH OUR CITY AUDITOR. 
          YOU HAVE PROBABLY DISCUSSED A LITTLE BIT AROUND THEIR INTERIM AUDIT  SERVICES GOING ONGOING FOR A FEW YEARS. 
          FINAL REPORT'S NOT OUT YET, BUT THEY HAVE ALSO FLAGGED THAT OUR COC STATEMENTS OF WORK, UM, COULD BE BEEF UP, COULD BE MORE INFORMATION 
          [01:50:01]
THAT THERE'S USUALLY NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION THAT CC STATEMENTS HAVE WORK, HELP AN AGENCY REALLY OWN UNDERSTAND LIKE WHAT INTEREST ELIGIBLE ALLOW ALL OF THAT. 
          SO MOVING TO AN RFP TEMPLATE, RP PROCESS, UH, WE CAN BUILD BIT MORE OF THAT COMPLIANCE FRAMEWORK THAT PROVIDERS WILL HAVE TO ABIDE BY ONCE THEY SPECIFIC. 
          UM, AND THEN WE HEARD FROM  EARLIER. 
          UM, SO THESE DIFFERENT SYSTEM THING. 
          SO ALSO THIS HELPS WITH SORT OF SETTING UP, UH, UM, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SYSTEM-WIDE, UH, COLLABORATION, CONSISTENCY, COORDINATION, AND SO ON. 
          UH, AND OUR P PROCESS ALSO HELPS TO ENSURE, YOU KNOW, EQUITY TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY WITH THE PROCUREMENTS IN A WAY THAT'LL BE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE INTENT TO RENEW PROCESS MIGHT NOT HAVE MET ALL THE DEVELOP PREVIOUSLY. 
          SO GOALS AND INTENT KIND OF DISCUSSED A LOT OF THAT AS WELL. 
          BUT WE'LL ALSO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE RFP DESIGN IS BUILDING IN SOME MORE PROGRAMMATIC ELEMENTS THAT FACILITATES SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM IMPLEMENTATION. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, SEAMLESS , HOUSING ENHANCED SERVICES, MAINTAINING COMPLIANCE LEVEL FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS. 
          AND ALL THAT TIMELINE YOU CAN SEE IS ALL TDD. 
          SO, UH, WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THE NOFA WILL BE RELEASED. 
          UM, OUR RELEASE OF R-F-P-R-R-F-D AND THEN THE TIMELINES FOR LIKE REVIEWING AND APPROVING APPLICATIONS, UM, GETTING APPROVAL FROM THIS BODY, GOING TO THE ATTORNEY FOR REVIEW. 
          ALL OF THAT IS REALLY CONTINGENT UPON WHEN HUB RELEASES THE NOFO, HOW MUCH TIME THEY GIVE US. 
          UM, IT'S REALLY HARD TO SAY RIGHT NOW LIKE WHAT THESE TIMELINES WILL NEED TO BE, BUT WE EXPECT IT TO BE A PRETTY ABBREVIATED TIMELINE, BUT JUST THE, FOR EVERYBODY, THEY JUST CANCELED AND RE-RELEASE THE COC BUILDS NOFO ONE WEEK WINDOW. 
          SO THERE IS MURMURING THAT THE COC COMPETITION TO BE AS SHORT AS IF Q ALL RECALL. 
          WE HAD GONE TO THIS COURT TO SEEK APPROVAL TO APPLY FOR COC BILLS RELEASE. 
          AN RFD, WE RELEASED AN RFT WE SELECTED IN CENTURY AS OUR, AS OUR APPLICANT. 
          WE SUBMITTED THAT TO THE RP HAD CANCELED THAT, UH, NOFO IN FEBRUARY OR SO, AND THEN RE-RELEASED, WE RESUBMITTED, THEY CANCELED AGAIN FOR A THIRD TIME WITH A ONE WEEK TURNAROUND. 
          THEY ALSO ADDED IN A NUMBER OF REQUIREMENTS INTO THE RFP, UM, BOTH PROGRAMMATIC REQUIREMENTS PLUS CHANGES IN THEIR STORY. 
          SO THEY MOVED AWAY. 
          THEY ACTUALLY MOVED AWAY FROM A SCHOOL SYSTEM AND MOVED TO A PROCESS WHERE, BEGIN WITH, THROUGH APPLICATIONS ON A PERSONAL FIRST, FIRST, UH, FIRST COMES VIRTUAL RECEIVED BASIS OH, WOW. 
          WHERE APPLICATIONS OR APPLICANTS AGREED TO FOUR CONDITIONS. 
          UH, IT WAS MANDATORY. 
          UH, MANDATORY  SERVICE REQUIREMENTS FOR BENEFITS IN HOUSING. 
          UH, ONE WITH COORDINATION WITH FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT, OPERATIONAL, UH, YEAH. 
          UH, AND THEN THERE, UH, THERE'S, UH, UH, NO CITIES, COUNTY, STATES AND COCS THAT DON'T PROHIBIT PUBLIC, UH, ENCAMPMENTS OR PUBLIC CAMPING WE'RE ALSO, UM, NOT ALLOWED. 
          AND SO BASICALLY WE HAD TO AGREE TO ALL OF THOSE TERMS. AND THEN YOU ORDER THAT THE APPLICATIONS WERE RECEIVED, THAT MEANT THOSE FOUR CONDITIONS, THEY WOULD GRANT APPROVAL. 
          SO WE ELECTED NOT TO . 
          YEAH. 
          UM, PROJECT COMPONENTS OF POPULATION. 
          SO THIS IS PRETTY STANDARD FOR COC PROGRAMMING. 
          UM, THESE ARE THE ELEMENTS THAT, SO THE PROGRAM COMPONENTS HAVE HAD AUTHORIZES FOR COC WITHIN PERMANENT HOUSING THAT CAN ENCOMPASS A VARIETY OF PERMANENT HOUSING , UH, PROJECT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND BASED ASSISTANCE, SPONSOR BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE. 
          THERE IS SERVICES INTO PERMANENT HOUSING. 
          THERE'S RAPID REHOUSING. 
          SO ALL OF THOSE PROGRAM FOLLOW, UH, TRANSITIONAL HOUSING IS ELIGIBLE SUPPORTIVE SERVICE ONLY. 
          THAT'S THINGS LIKE OUTREACH ACCESS CENTERS, WHERE THERE'S LIKE ONE DISTINCT STANDALONE SERVICE THAT'S BEING FUNDED. 
          UH, HIS AND PLANNING ARE ELIGIBLE AS WELL FOR POPULATIONS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THIS WILL BE KIND OF HITTING CONTINGENT UPON WHAT HAD INCLUDES IN THEIR NOFO. 
          HOWEVER, THIS IS GENERALLY WHAT THE, THE ELIGIBLE POPULATIONS HAVE HAVE INCLUDED. 
          PREVIOUSLY FOR LONG BEACH C CS, WE DO FUNDS, ADULT FAMILY, YOUTH VETERAN, AND, UH, VE VIOLENCE, VIOLENCE PROGRAMS. AT RISK PERSONS, WE GENERALLY NEED A POOL WITH COC PROGRAMS. UM, IF THE COC HAS, UH, MET GOT LIKE FUNCTIONAL ZERO, UH, OR, YOU KNOW, IT'S DEMONSTRATED THAT LIKE THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, ZERO HOMELESS. 
          SO, UH, WE ARE NOT IN THAT. 
          UH, WE DON'T, WE DON'T MEET THAT. 
          SO I DON'T AUTHORITY COS HATES THAT TOO. 
          UM, SO AT RISK IS REALLY MORE OF A CONCEPTUAL ELIGIBILITY, UM, ELIGIBLE COSTS THAT WE REVIEW, THESE ARE THE KINDS OF ELIGIBLE COSTS GENERALLY WITHIN THE COC. 
          AND SO WE'RE BUILDING INTO THE NFO. 
          UH, WE'LL BUILD IN LIKE A MORE DETAILED FUNDING MATRIX, A FUNDING ELIGIBILITY MATRIX THAT CALLS OUT LIKE THOSE, UH, CATEGORIES, WHAT'S , WHAT'S NOT, UM, BUT SUPPORT OF SERVICES, WHICH, WHICH CASE MANAGEMENT CAN TAKE, ASSESSMENT, PROGRAM COORDINATION, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          HIS UH, ADMIN, INDIRECT OPERATIONS, LEASING, RENTAL ASSISTANCE, AND THEN SOME LIMITED FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE ARE ALL TYPICALLY ELIGIBLE UNDER THE 
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COC PROGRAM. 
          UM, SO IN OUR OTHER RFPS, WE'VE BEEN INCLUDING A COST ELIGIBILITY MATRIX TO TRY TO HELP, UH, MATCH, UH, BASICALLY YOUR ELIGIBLE PROGRAM ACTIVITIES, ELIGIBLE COSTS, ALL THOSE POPULATIONS. 
          AND IF YOU'RE GRADING FUNDING, THINGS LIKE THAT, UH, THERE'S DIFFERENT, UH, TARGET POPULATIONS. 
          THE MATRIX HELPS WITH REALLY UNDERSTANDING SORT LOCAL COMPLIANCE FRAMEWORK, HOW TO IMPLEMENT YOUR PROGRAM AND WHAT DOLLARS TO SPEND ON WHICH ACTIVITIES. 
          SO WE'LL INCLUDE THIS ELIGIBLE COST MATRIX, UM, AND THE RFP, UM, PROGRAM EXITS. 
          UH, THEIR HUD DOES HAVE SOME REQUIREMENTS, REQUIREMENTS AROUND HOW YOU EXIT PEOPLE. 
          AND REALLY THAT, THAT EXIT REQUIREMENT IS AROUND LIKE OPPORTUNITIES TO APPEAL OUR GRIEVANCE PROCESS, SORT OF LIKE OUR, OUR WAY THAT WE, UM, ADDRESS APPEALS ON EXITS. 
          BUT THE STATE ALSO HAS SPECIFIC GUIDELINES FOR HOW YOU EXIT PEOPLE FROM YOUR PROGRAM. 
          SO, UH, THE RFP WILL INCLUDE THE LANGUAGE FROM THAT, UH, CALIFORNIA ASSEMBLY BILL IN 1991, WHICH IS AROUND HAVING LIKE EXIT PLANS. 
          SO IF YOU'RE EXITING A PERSON FROM A PROGRAM, NOTHING DONE WRITTEN NOTICE, THEY'RE USUALLY A TIME, A TIMELINE THAT'S IDENTIFIED FOUR EXITS FROM THE PROGRAM. 
          AND THAT WE WANT TO HAVE, UM, EXIT DOCUMENT AN HIS WITHIN THREE DAYS. 
          AND THE LAST DAY IS 120 DAYS OF NO CONTACT OR SO. 
          THAT'S MORE OF, UM, UH, UH, A NO CONTACT POLICY. 
          SO IF YOU'RE SERVING SOMEONE AND THEY'VE NOT, NOTHING TO MAKE CONTACT, WELL, I , UM, ACCORDING TO ENTRY SYSTEM PARTICIPATION, UH, ACCORDING TO ENTRY SYSTEM IS UNDER ATTACK ESSENTIALLY WITH, UH, FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL. 
          BUT FOR NOW, IT'S STILL A REQUIREMENT, UH, FOR THE HEART ACT. 
          UM, OUR PROGRAMS, BECAUSE OF DIFFERENT POPULATIONS, WE SAW THE DIFFERENT, UM, SORT OF SEE PARTICIPATION PATHWAYS DEPENDING ON POPULATION SYSTEM. 
          RSC HAS WAS REALLY FOCUSED ON SINGLE ADULTS. 
          UM, WE DO HAVE SOME YOUTH AND FAMILY PROGRAMMING, BUT, UH, BECAUSE LASA HAS BEEN A PRI THE PRIMARY, UM, ADMINISTRATOR AND FUNDER OF YOUTH AND FAMILY SERVICES, UM, WE TRY TO DIRECT THOSE POPULATIONS TO L-A-C-E-S. 
          UM, AND SOME OTHER CS REQUIREMENTS THAT WE TRY TO BUILD IN AS MAKING SURE THAT SERVICE NEEDS ARE PARTICIPATING IN CASE CONFERENCING, CARE COORDINATION MEETINGS, PLANNING MEETINGS THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH US TO RECEIVE, UH, MATCHES AND REFERRALS. 
          UH, WE ALSO WANT TO INCORPORATE, UM, CES INTEGRATION AND FEEDBACK INTO PROGRAM DESIGN SO THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, PARTICIPANTS WHO ARE RISK RECEIVING SERVICES PROVIDERS, UH, CARRYING OUT SERVICES HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY BUT TO, TO WEIGH IN ON WHAT PROGRAMING SERVICE SERVICES LOOKS LIKE, WHAT THE QUALITY OF SERVICES ARE AND ALL OF THAT. 
          UM, SO WE DO NON CONFIDENTIAL SURVEYS OF PARTICIPANTS, UM, REQUIRING THAT THERE'S CONNECTIONS WITH MAINSTREAM BENEFITS OF HOUSING THAT LIKELY, LIKELY WILL CONTINUE TO BE A NEED UNDER A NEW  MODEL WHERE THEY'RE ADVOCATING FOR, UM, EMPLOYMENT EDUCATION, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UH, AND THEN SOME MANDATES AROUND STAFF TRAINING. 
          JUST GENERAL, UH, TRAINING TOPICS LIKE WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR, OUR CASE MANAGERS AND PROVIDERS, UH, THAT'D BE DEPEND UP ON GENERAL PROGRAM POLICIES LIKE A COC. 
          THESE ARE THE KINDS OF POLICIES THAT ARE REQUIRED OF OUR PROGRAMS THAT WE, THAT NOT, THAT ARE ON POLICY FOR THOSE YELLOW AND PRIVACY FOR, UM, PARTICIPANT DATA, CONFLICT OF INTEREST POLICIES, UH, FAIR HOUSING AND AADA, A COMPLIANCE AND REPORTING GRIEVANCES. 
          ALL THOSE ARE LIKE STANDARD, UH, POLICY REQUIREMENTS THAT PEOPLE ADOPTED THAT HAVE INCLUDED IN OUR, UH, SUBRECIPIENT PROGRAMS THAT WILL SPELL OUT IN THE RPS THAT OUR, OUR APPLICANTS ARE BETTER AWARE OF THOSE THAT HAD NOT NECESSARILY BEEN INCLUDED PREVIOUSLY IN ALL OF OUR INTENT TO RENEW, UM, UH, PROCESSES OF THE PAST, UM, PARTICIPANT RIGHTS AND PROTECTION. 
          SO AGAIN, KIND OF, UM, ON THE LAST SLIDE WAS AROUND, UH, POLICIES, BUT A LOT OF THOSE POLICIES ARE, ARE INTENDED TO HELP, UM, ENSURE LIKE, YOU KNOW, UH, QUALITY PROGRAMMING, QUALITY SERVICES, UM, BUT THAT RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES FOR ARE BEING MET AND HERE TO, SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR ALL OF THOSE PARTIES MEMBER RIGHTS TO BE ARTICULATED, UM, AND THE LOCATION AS WELL. 
          UM, AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE COC BOARD ROLE AND NEXT STEPS, UM, RIGHT NOW, AGAIN, WE, WE, UM, HAVE A DRAFT. 
          WE CAN CIRCULATE MEMBERS, WE WANT TO TAKE A LOOK, BUT, UM, ONLY THE OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW IS TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK, INPUT RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING, UM, OUR RENEWAL RF FEE PROCESS. 
          UM, ONE THING THAT I WILL ADD, UM, GIVEN OUR EXPECTED REALLY ABBREVIATED TIMELINE IS THAT IN THE PAST WE HAVE DONE RFPS TO LOOK AT TO CONSIDER NEW PROJECTS. 
          IF THERE'S A THREE WEEK NOFO, IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO RELEASE AN RFP TO, UH, HAVE APPLICANTS APPLY FOR, HAVE US RECEIVE SCORE CONSIDER TO INCLUDE IN OUR APPLICATION. 
          SO WHEN WE DO RFP, IT WILL BE FOR RENEWALS, CONSOLIDATIONS, AND EXPANSIONS, UH, AND, 
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UH, VOLUNTARY LOCATION. 
          BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA CONSIDER A NEW PROJECT . 
          UM, BUT YEAH, FOR, UH, FOR BOARD BOARD, UH, NEXT STEP, THERE'S REALLY OPPORTUNITY FOR A DISCUSSION DIALOGUE, UM, BETWEEN YOU ALL, UH, THERE STAFF TO LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT OUR ORGANIZATION OF THE RFP AND ANY, I'M ASSUMING THIS IS JUST WHAT THE PROCESS IS FOR, HOW THIS IS GONNA BE FOR ANY OTHER TYPES OF GRANTS OR GRANTS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS HAVE OUR, UH, PROCESS ALIGN A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH HOW WE DO CITY PROCUREMENTS. 
          UM, SO THIS IS GENERALLY THE, THE PROCESS FOR, FOR RP FOR LIKE PROGRAMS THAT ARE STATE FUNDED OR COUNTY FUNDED. 
          THE THING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A QUESTION MARK IS LIKE, WHAT PET IS ACTUALLY GOING TO REQUIRE THIS ROUND? AND SO SOME OF THIS MAY NEED TO CHANGE. 
          UM, TWO THINGS, UH, WE CAN SAY TO THAT IS, IN THE PAST, HUD HAS REQUIRED THAT YOU HAVE A RENEWAL PROCESS, BUT THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY LIKE EXPLICIT AROUND WHAT YOUR RENEWAL PROCESS HAS TO LOOK LIKE. 
          UM, AND WHEN WE SUBMIT OUR APPLICATION TO HUD, UM, WE INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE AGENCY'S LIKE CERTIFICATION OF THEIR INTENT TO REVIEW WAS. 
          BUT WE DON'T INCLUDE OUR RFP. 
          SO OUR RFP IS THE ONE INCLUDES LIKE, LOTS OF BEST PRACTICES THAT WE WOULD WANT TO SEE IN OUR SYSTEM AND OUR PROGRAM SO THAT LIKE HUD MIGHT FLAG. 
          UM, BUT WE CAN ON OUR END, TAKE THE RESPONSES THAT WE GET BACK AND TRY TO TAILOR IT SO THAT WE'RE POTENTIALLY A LITTLE MORE CAUTIOUS AROUND WHICH LANGUAGE WE MIGHT USE THAT MIGHT CAUSE FLAG ON HUDSON. 
          BUT, UM, SO THIS IS A PROCESS TO SORT OF, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE ADDRESS HUS NEEDS WITH A NO VOTE PLUS, UM, CITY PROCUREMENT NEEDS. 
          AND THEN THE NEW, THE RESTRICTION ON NEW PROGRAMS STRICTLY FOR THE HUD FUNDING, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST, JUST BECAUSE OF THE, THE REALLY ABBREVIATED TIMELINE, IF THERE'S A THREE WEEK NO VOTE, UH, WE WON'T CONSIDER NEW PROJECTS FOR, FOR THE HUDS COC PROGRAM. 
          UM, BUT WE ARE PRETTY CONTINUOUSLY RELEASING OUR ENOUGH FEESS, UM, FOR, FOR NEW PROGRAMMING. 
          UM, I THINK OUR PROCUREMENT LEADS HERE, BUT WE JUST RELEASED, UH, SCORED RF PS RECENTLY FOR  PROGRAMS, UH, HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION, RAPID REHOUSING, AND THINK WE DO HAVE ANOTHER NON-PROFIT SHELTER RF P SOON. 
          UM, SO THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S LOTS OF OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE A FUNDING TO, UH, HELP CREATE FACILIT. 
          THIS COMES DOWN TO OUR TIMELINE IS THREE WEEKS, NOT LIKE WE'RE GONNA GET POST FUNDING. 
          SO THERE JUST ISN'T ENOUGH TIME FOR SOMEONE TO CREATE A NEW PROGRAM FOR US TO EVEN CREATE AN RFP THAT WILL ALLOWS SOMEBODY TO CREATE A NEW PROGRAM. 
          SO IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO WHAT IS THE, THE TIME LENGTH AND IS IT FEASIBLE, IF NOT LIKE, ALLOWING FOR EXPANSIONS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE ADEQUATE. 
          YEAH. 
          WE, WE WILL OFFER, UH, APPLICANTS WHO ARE SEEKING EXPANSION IF WE WANT TO ADD ADDITIONAL BEDS OR UNITS OR, UM, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE. 
          LIKE WE CONSIDER ALL OF THAT. 
          TRY TO SUBMIT THAT ON BEHALF OF THE, THE, THE WHOLE CASE. 
          MAY I ASK WHO DOES THE SCORE? UH, WE LL GIVE A PRESENTATION ON THAT, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, UM, WE ARE REQUIRED TO C IF P HAVE, HAVE POLICIES AND METHODOLOGIES FOR SCORING RANKING, THE BOARD APPROVES THOSE POLICIES INTERNALLY. 
          STAFF WILL THEN, BASED OFF OF THE METHODOLOGIES, UH, TAKE ALL THE DIFFERENT DATA, UH, INPUTS. 
          THERE'S FINANCIAL DATA, THERE'S PROGRAM DATA LIKE THAT. 
          AND THEN, UH, INCORPORATE IT INTO THE, THE SCORING RANKING METHODOLOGY. 
          THEN WE PRESENT BACK TO THE BOARD WHAT THE, THE RANK IS, AND THEN BOARD HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO WRITE IT PUT NOT TO WHETHER THEY WANT TO GO AHEAD AND SUBMIT, UH, THE APPLICATION TO HAVE, ACCORDING TO THAT RANKING, WE TO CHANGES IN THE FINAL RANKING. 
          BUT, UH, THAT'S GENERALLY THE , YOU KNOW, THAT CITY ATTORNEY ISN'T HERE, BUT IS THERE FA OR PLAN THAT YOU CAN SPEAK TO OF MAYBE CHALLENGING MM-HMM . 
          GETTING THESE GUIDELINES COMING GO? YEAH. 
          UM, I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UM, IN A FEW MONTHS AGO, UM, THERE WAS A CROSS ACTION LAWSUIT OF CITIES COUNTY AND C CS AGAINST HUD, UH, AROUND THE COC IN PARTICULAR. 
          UM, THE, THE CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT WAS STARTED BY, I THINK, LIKE SIX COUNTIES IN WASHINGTON. 
          IT WAS LIKE WASHINGTON KING COUNTY WAS LIKE THE NAME OF THE, THE PLAINTIFFS. 
          BUT, UM, THE, THE  ACTION INCLUDES, UH, A NUMBER OF COUNTIES AND CITIES IN WASHINGTON, NEW YORK, COLUMBUS, OHIO. 
          UM, IT ALSO INCLUDES, UM, SO THERE'S, I ESCAPED ME, BUT LOCALLY IT INCLUDED, UH, PASADENA, SANTA MONICA AND CULVER SUIT. 
          UM, 
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THE, THE, THE SUIT AGAINST HUD WAS THAT, UM, HUD AND THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION WERE BOTH, UH, ILLEGALLY TRYING TO INCORPORATE EXECUTIVE ORDERS INTO FUNDING THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN AUTHORIZED BY CONGRESS. 
          UM, THERE WAS, UH, AN, AN INJUNCTION OR A STAY THAT THE PLAINTIFFS HAD DIDN'T WANT ON THAT CASE. 
          UM, THE CITY'S INTERPRETATION WAS THAT, THAT INJUN INJUNCTION SHOULD APPLY TO US. 
          THE CITY ATTORNEY'S INTERPRETATION ALSO WAS THAT THE EXECUTIVE ORDERS WITHOUT THE CITY APPLYING WHERE EITHER, UH, ILLEGAL OR UNENFORCEABLE. 
          AND THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS CONTINUED TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE KIND OF SIMILARLY TO WHERE, UM, WE CAN WORK WITH CITY ATTORNEY TOGETHER TO MAKE DETERMINATION AROUND, UM, EXECUTIVE ORDERS THAT LIKE WE MIGHT FEEL LIKE WOULD KIND OF DO CONFLICT WITH, UM, STATE LAW, UH, CITY CHARTER, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UM, WHERE WE CAN EITHER FORMALLY CONTEST OR, OR GO THROUGH A PROCESS TO SAY THAT, UM, WE CAN STILL APPLY, UM, WITHOUT, WE'LL TRY TO MITIGATE AS MUCH COURSE AS POSSIBLE. 
          UM, WE'LL NOT NECESSARILY, UM, AGREED TO IN PARTICULAR ORDERS, UH, BASED OFF OF SORT LIKE LEGAL INTERPRETATION OF LIKE, THEY MIGHT NOT APPLY TO US, THEY MIGHT APPLY TO FEDERAL EMPLOYEES AS AN EXAMPLE, BUT TO LIKE A LOWER TIER SUB RECIPIENT, LIKE THE, THE ORDER NOT APPLY. 
          JEFF, IS THERE A MOTION TO RECEIVE THE FILE SUBCOMMITTEE UPDATES? I'M WELCOME. 
          OKAY. 
          SECOND, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE LORD? ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? DEAN? NONE. 
          WE CAN GO AHEAD AND VOTE. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANYONE IN OPPOSITION? MOTION PASSES. 
          OKAY. 
          RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE, UH, PRESENTATION CITY MOVE SET FOR . 
          UM, SO A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT FOR THIS PRESENTATION. 
          UM, SO WE, WE WENT THROUGH, WE GOTTA MAKE SURE YOU GO CHARTER BY LOT UPDATES. 
          UH, IN THIS YEAR, JUST IN APRIL, WE VOTED ON A FEW OTHER TWO ROUNDS THAT WAS UPDATES, UM, PRESENTATION TODAY. 
          UM, I TENDS TO DO A FEW THINGS, BUT ONE IS, UH, JUST RECAP THOSE UPDATES THAT WE HAVE TO APPROVED IN IN APRIL. 
          UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, OUR CITY ATTORNEY HAD ALSO FLAGGED, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SOME CLOSURE REVISION. 
          SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME FROM CITY ATTORNEY. 
          THE RECOMMENDATIONS THERE ARE REALLY AROUND TRYING TO BETTER ARTICULATE AND SPECIFY, UH, ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, UH, BOARD MEMBERS VERSUS STAFF, AND THAT BOARD MEMBERS SERVING AN ADVISORY CAPACITY. 
          PRIMARILY, YOU'RE HELPING TO INFORM OR GUIDE, PROVIDE INPUT, UH, TOWARDS COC PROCESSES, PRACTICES, POLICIES, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          AND STAFF PRIMARILY HAVE THE, THE, THE ROLE RESPONSIBILITY FOR, FOR IMPLEMENTING OR DIRECTING THOSE, THOSE ACTIVITIES. 
          THEY'LL KIND OF GO THROUGH SOME RECOMMENDED CHANGES THERE. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER IS, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE OPEN-ENDED. 
          SO WE CERTAINLY BOARD OF WELCOME TO PROVIDE INPUT FEEDBACK REGARDING THOSE CHANGES AS WELL. 
          UM, BUT THE PRESENTATION IS NOT MEANT TO BE A, A ABOUT TO APPROVE OR ADOPT THESE CHANGES. 
          THERE IS, UH, ALSO A MORE OPEN-ENDED SPACE WHERE, UM, AND WE DISCUSSED DURING LOSSES PRESENTATION. 
          OUR CHARTER, UH, IS REALLY SPECIFIC TO CITY OF LONG BEACH, CITY OF LONG BEACH, COC, AND DOESN'T ARTICULATE, UM, OUTSIDE ENTITIES THAT WE PARTNER WITH, WHO THEY MAY ALSO SERVE IN A DEVICE ROLE TO US OR WHERE WE MAY SERVE IN A DEVICE ROLE TO THEM. 
          UM, SO IN, UH, JESSICA AND KIM'S PRESENTATION, AND WE HEARD ABOUT HOW LONG BEACH HAS A ON, UH, LONG BEACH, EXCUSE ME, LONG BEACH HAS A SEAT ON LACS POLICY COUNCIL LONG BEACH HAS A SEAT ON THE L-A-C-O-C BOARD, WHICH MY SUBCOMMITTEE AND SO WANTED OR MORE BRING IT BACK TO THE GROUP HERE FOR LIKE HOW WE, HOW YOU ALL MIGHT WANT TO, UM, INCORPORATE SOME LANGUAGE THAT AT LEAST REFERENCES THOSE CONNECTIONS TO THOSE OTHER. 
          UH, SO WE'LL KIND OF GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERVIEW. 
          WE'LL GO OVER THE RECENT UPDATES. 
          UH, I'LL PROVIDE, UM, SOME, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS AROUND REFINEMENT TO DEFINITION OF ALL RESPONSIBILITIES, UM, FOR GENERAL MEMBERSHIP MEMBERS WHO ARE MEMBERS AND . 
          SO, UM, UH, UPDATES FROM THE LAST, LAST, UH, ROUND OF UPDATES IN APRIL. 
          THESE WERE GENERALLY THE CHANGES THAT WE HAD MADE. 
          UM, THE CHANGES SPECIFICALLY WERE AROUND CERTIFYING THE MORE RECENT ROUND OF CHANGES, UH, UPDATED TO THE MEETING SCHEDULE AND 
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LOCATION, UH, THE TIMES AND DATES AND LOCATIONS. 
          UM, BOARD NOW MEETS, YOU KNOW, NINE TIMES A YEAR. 
          GENERAL MEMBERSHIP MEETS THREE TIMES A YEAR BACK GOODWILL AND, UH, VILLAGES . 
          UM, WE CHANGED, DIRECTED THE NAME FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, WE, UH, ARTICULATED THE INTEGRATION WITH ABLE AND, UH, ALSO REFLECTED UPDATES FROM OUR WRITTEN STANDARDS AND MAKING SURE THAT THOSE REFLECTED IN THE CHARTER BYLAWS. 
          SO, PURPOSE FOR THE UPDATES FOR TODAY. 
          UM, SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS HERE, YOU KNOW, THEY ALSO, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY INTEND TO HELP, UM, SATISFY SOME OF THE CITY ATTORNEY REQUESTS, BUT ALSO, UH, HELP US TO BETTER ALIGN WITH HOW REQUIREMENTS OF THE HARD ACT CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS. 
          THEY CLARIFY RULES AND RESPONSIBILITIES BETWEEN ALL OUR DIFFERENT ENTITIES, UM, AND HELP FORMALIZE, UH, OUR ROLE, UM, AS COLLABORATIVE APPLICANT AND UNIFIED FUNDING AGENCY, UM, AND PUT THEM BOTH TOGETHER. 
          UM, THE REASON FOR THAT COC GOVERNANCE, UH, MOST COCS ARE ONLY A COLLABORATIVE APPLICANT, MEANING THEY, UH, THE ADMITTED ENTITY WORKS WITH THE BOARD TO ORGANIZE THE COMMUNITY PLAN, ORGANIZE THE APPLICATION, SUBMIT THE APPLICATION, UH, BUT, UH, UNDER THAT MODEL, AGENCIES CAN RECEIVE DIRECT CONTRACTS FROM HUD AND A UNIFIED FUNDING AGENCY MODEL. 
          THE CITY OF LONG BEACH IS ONE OF MAYBE LIKE 7,000. 
          YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S VERY FEW UNIFIED FUNDING AGENCIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, BUT UNDER THAT MODEL, UNIFIED FUNDING AGENCIES STILL HAS THE COMMUNITY PLANNING, UM, REQUIREMENTS, ROLES, RESPONSIBILITIES, HOWEVER, ALLUDED TURN TO AGREE MORE WITH CREDIT FOR ALL OF THE FUNDING, AND WE CAN MAKE DELEGATED DECISIONS AROUND CHANGES TO FUNDING. 
          THE UNIFIED FUNDING AGENCY DOES REQUIRE REAUTHORIZATION BY THE BOARD. 
          UM, AND IN BOTH MODELS WE WOULD STILL NEED TO CONSULT BOARD ON THE APPLICATION, ON THE FUNDING, ON THE AUTHORIZATION RANKINGS, ALL OF THAT. 
          UM, BUT THE TRIES TO HELP ARTICULATE AND FRAME THAT. 
          UM, AS A UNIFIED FUNDING AGENCY, WE STILL TRY TO HAVE TRANSPARENCY AND CLARITY AND COLLABORATION WITH BOARDS. 
          SO WE STILL SERVE IN THAT COLLABORATIVE APPLICANT FASHION, AND WE WOULD WORK WITH THE BOARD TO CONTINUE TO REAUTHORIZE OUR, OUR ROLE AS NEW BUDGET AGENT. 
          UM, SO HERE'S THE GENERAL GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE FOR OUR, OUR COC. 
          UH, COC MEMBERSHIP INCLUDES OUR GENERAL MEMBERSHIP. 
          IT INCLUDES, UH, COC BOARD. 
          IT INCLUDES THE HOMELESS SERVICES BUREAU OF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, CITY COUNCIL, AND HAYS ACT. 
          AND THEN IN RED YOU'LL SEE, UH, ONE SMALL UPDATE HERE, UH, WITHIN THE CHARTER. 
          ANOTHER SMALL CLARIFICATION, WE'RE UPDATING THE ADDRESS OF THE C C'S ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE TO THIS SPACE HERE. 
          UM, THE MSC HAD BEEN THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE FOR, FOR YEARS. 
          UM, ALL OF THE COC HAVE BEEN STAFF, YOU KNOW, REPORT TO THIS OFFICE. 
          SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THAT CHANGE. 
          UM, THE NEXT FEW SLIDES YOU'LL SEE ON THE LEFT, UH, JUST TO GENERAL, UH, LIKE SORT OF GENERALITY GENERALITIES AROUND THE UPDATES TO GENERAL MEMBERSHIP. 
          AND ON THE RIGHT WILL BE LIKE THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE CHANGE. 
          SO IT'S A RED LINE. 
          SO FOR GENERAL MEMBERSHIP, UM, WHERE ONE PRIMARY CHANGE IS, UH, WE'RE REORGANIZING THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, WHETHER PREVIOUSLY IT WAS ROLE, UH, MEMBERSHIP AND, UH, ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, WE'VE REPURPOSED THAT AS A PURPOSE, UH, MEMBER, MEMBER DESCRIPTION, AND THEN A CONSOLIDATED ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. 
          SO HERE'S THE RECOMMENDED PURPOSE. 
          SO THAT LONG BEACH, COC SERVES AS TO HUB DESIGNATED PRIMARY DECISION MAKING, BODY AND RESPONSIBLE COORDINATION AND OVERSIGHT LEVERAGE TO PREVENT ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS IN LONG BEACH. 
          WE PROVIDE, UH, COMMUNITY-WIDE COMMITTED ANY PREVENTED HOMELESSNESS, CONSOLIDATED ACCESS TO HU AND NON, UH, FUNDED SUPPORTIVE SERVICES AND HOUSING. 
          ENSURE EFFECTIVE OPERATION OF A COMMUNITY-WIDE HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM. 
          UH, PROMOTE HOUSING FIRST POLICY TO MINIMIZE TRAUMA AND DISLOCATION CAUSED BY HOMELESSNESS, OPTIMIZE EQUITY ACCESS  FOR INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES, EXPERIENCES WITH HOMELESSNESS FOR ATTENTION THAT HISTORICALLY SERVED AND MARGINALIZED, UH, POPULATIONS. 
          SO THAT'S THE PROPOSED PURPOSE. 
          AND THEN AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE THAT ON THE LEFT IS STILL JUST SORT OF GENERAL THEMES FOR THINGS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA BE CHANGING AND HERE SPECIFICALLY TO THE MEMBERSHIP. 
          UM, JUST REALLY A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, STREAMLINING OF LANGUAGE THAT NOT REALLY CHANGES INTO LIKE THE COMPOSITION OF THE MEMBERS, BUT MEMBERSHIP OF LONG BEACH, COC, OPEN TO ALL INDIVIDUALS AND ORGANIZATIONS COMMITTED TO PREVENTING ENDING HOMELESSNESS IN LONG BEACH. 
          MEMBERS MAY INCLUDE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, HOMELESS AND HOUSING SERVICE PROVIDERS, FAITH-BASED ORGANIZATIONS, PUBLIC AGENCIES, PHILANTHROPIC PARTNERS, BUSINESSES, HEALTH, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PROVIDERS, AND SO ON. 
          WE DID ALSO INCLUDE, UM, UH, SPECIFIC CALL OUTS FOR, UH, BLACK INDIGENOUS PEOPLE OF COLOR, LGBTQ PLUS SERVING ENTITIES, VETERANS, PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED COMMUNITIES. 
          UM, AND THAT PUBLICLY INVITATION FOR MEMBERS SHALL HAVE AT LEAST. 
          UM, NEXT ONE, 
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AND THEN THIS IS A MUCH LONGER SLIDE HERE, BUT ONE THING WE DID IN THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES IS ALSO PREVIOUSLY, UH, IT WAS SORT OF LIKE ONE PARAGRAPH THAT ENCOMPASSED ALL THE ROLES, ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. 
          TRIED TO ORGANIZE IT BY SORT OF LIKE, UH, SPECIFIC FUNCTION OR, OR TASK OR ACTIVITY THAT, UH, THE GENERAL MEMBERSHIP WOULD HAVE, UH, INSIGHT INTO. 
          AND SO THERE'S THE GOVERNANCE AND OVERSIGHT SECTION OF REQUIRED ACTIVITIES, SYSTEM OPERATIONS, ACCOUNTABILITY, TRANSPARENCY, AND REGIONAL COORDINATION. 
          SO, UM, REALLY IT'S AROUND, UH, HELPING TO BREAK THIS DOWN INTO LIKE SORT OF CORE FUNCTIONS OF, UH, OF CFC. 
          UM, THEN FOR THE BOARD ITSELF, UM, SOME UPDATES HERE, FUNNY BACK THERE, BUT, UM, AND SO WE KIND OF BREAK THE, THE, THE CHANGES ARE IN ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITY. 
          UM, ROLE AGAIN IS CLARIFY THAT PRIS, THE PRIMARY, THE, THE BOARD IS PRIMARY GOVERNANCE BODY. 
          UM, WE PROVIDE POLICY DIRECTION AND OVERSIGHT RESPONSIBILITY TO INCLUDE VY, COVENANT CLARITY. 
          HYC COULD BE WITH TRANSPARENCY POLICIES. 
          UM, SO THE ROLE, YOU KNOW, ROLE THAT. 
          AND, UH, NUMBER TWO, UM, SIMILAR TO IN THE, UH, GENERAL MEMBERSHIP, THEY'VE BROKEN THE RESPONSIBILITY DOWN TO LIKE SPECIFIC LIKE SECTIONS. 
          SO YOU'VE GOT A GOVERNANCE AND OVERSIGHT SECTION, A PLANNING AND POLICY SECTION. 
          GOVERNANCE AND OVERSIGHT IS AROUND LIKE THE ANNUAL REQUIREMENTS OF THE COC UH, POLICY. 
          THANK GREAT, THANK YOU. 
          UM, UH, ANNUAL REVIEW AND UPDATES TO HAVE REQUIRED POLICIES, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UH, SO GETTING INTO JUST, YOU KNOW, THE ACTUAL GOVERNANCE OF THE COC CHARTER BYLAWS, UH, MEMBERSHIP, UH, ALL THAT. 
          AND THEN THE PLANNING POLICY. 
          UM, ONE CHANGE HERE IS, UH, THIS SORT OF THE ONE, ONE OF THE WAYS IN WHICH, UH, WE'RE PROPOSING, UH, SOME LANGUAGE THAT WOULD REFLECT COORDINATION WITH OUTSIDE ENTITIES IS, UM, IN A REGIONAL PLANNING, A REGIONAL POLICY ROLE, ENGAGE WITH REGIONAL PARTNERS F AT GLENDALE, EL PASADENA, OTHER COCS TO COORDINATE PLANNING, REDUCE , THE STRENGTHEN ATLANTIC ACROSS, UM, IN BOARD ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. 
          CONTINUED, UH, BUILT OUT, UM, SPECIFIED ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES AROUND FUNDING AND RESOURCE ALLOCATION. 
          OUR ANNUAL MENTAL PROCESS GENERALLY IS WHERE THAT WOULD, WOULD APPLY. 
          UH, BOARD IS WHERE, UH, AGAIN, THE SCORING AND RANKING POLICIES AND METHODOLOGIES ARE APPROVED. 
          REALLOCATION IS APPROVED. 
          THE PRIORITY, UH, RANKING AND LISTING IS APPROVED. 
          HIS AND CES RESPONSIBILITIES, THOSE REALLY AROUND, UM, WE HEARD CERTAINLY IN THE LOSS OF GOVERNANCE PRESENTATION. 
          BUT HOW BOARD, ONE OF THE ROLES WOULD BE TO CONTINUALLY OR ANNUALLY DESIGNATE WHO THE HIS AND CES LEADS ARE. 
          THAT ROLE HAS BEEN GRANTED TO THE CITY OF BEACH ONE SERVICES BUREAU. 
          UM, UH, AND THEN WE BUILT IN SOME COMMUNITY ACCOUNTABILITY. 
          AND THEN THERE IS CODE OF CONFLICT AND CON, UH, CODE OF CONDUCT AND CONFLICT OF INTEREST, UH, BUILT INTO THE CHARTER ITSELF, BUT THOUGHT THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO ELEVATE AND ALSO INTEGRATE TO THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS. 
          JUST MAKING SURE THAT WHEN BOARD MEMBERS ARE PARTICIPATING IN REPRESENTING CITIES CITY SET, UM, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT, UH, THAT'S BUILT IN AS PART OF THE ROLE, THE, THE ROLE OF RESPONSIBLE, UM, FOR HOMELESS SERVICES. 
          HERE'S THE, UH, RECOMMENDED, UH, ROLE FOR THE HOMELESS SERVICE BUREAU, PRIMARILY ON THE LEFT, UH, YOU KNOW, TO DESIGNATE FORMAL SERVICES AS THE COLLABORATIVE APPLICANT, UNIFIED FINANCE AGENCY, HYS LEAD, CES LEAD THAT WE ORGANIZE IN STAFF, THESE COC BOARD MEETINGS, UM, SCREEN CANDIDATES FOR, FOR BOARD POSITIONS AND COMMITTEE SEATS. 
          UM, WE ADMINISTER COC AND ESG FUNDS, UM, MANAGE THE CVS AND HMIS OPERATIONS, UH, SUBMIT THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN AND PARTNERSHIP. 
          WELL, REALLY, IT'S A COMMUNITY CONSOLIDATED PLAN. 
          WE SUBMIT APPLICATION, UH, CARRY A P COUNT, UH, THE HOUSING INVENTORY CAP AND MONITOR SUB RECIPIENTS, MANAGE GRIEVANCES OF WILL SMALL. 
          SO GENERALLY ALL OF THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. 
          LAST SPECIFICALLY, UM, UH, RECITALS AROUND THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES. 
          UM, DID ALSO INCLUDE RECOMMENDED, UH, CHANGES IN DEFINITION TO REFLECT THE CHANGES IN ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITY. 
          UM, THE DEFINITION ARE PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH THE PURPOSE AND ROLES THAT WERE, UH, IDENTIFIED PREVIOUSLY, BUT UPDATES TO LONG BEACH COC DEFINITION UPDATES TO THE LONG BEACH COC GENERAL MEMBERSHIP. 
          AND AGAIN, KINDA LIKE ORGANIZING THIS, UH, IN TERMS OF, UM, ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES 
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AND DEFINITIONS FOR THE LONG BEACH COC BOARD AND DEFINITION FOR THE ONE FROM . 
          AND THEN, UH, KIND OF BACK TO THE OPEN DISCUSSION PORTION. 
          SO SOME NEXT STEPS WOULD BE, UH, WELL, THE FIRST ONE ALREADY HAPPENED. 
          UH, WE HAD SSA AND ICF HERE TO PRESENT ON JUST EXTERNAL SYSTEM GOVERNANCE, UH, ITEMS, BUT THEY CAN'T BE AN ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION HERE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IF ONE THING WE COULD SAY IS, AMONG THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES WOULD BE TO RECEIVE ADVISEMENT FROM CES POLICY, CONSTABLE ADVISEMENT FROM THE L-E-H-I-S COLLABORATIVE. 
          IT COULD BE TO PROVIDE ADVISEMENT TO THOSE BODIES, UM, TO RECEIVE, PROVIDE ADVISEMENT. 
          UM, THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT. 
          WE CAN DEFINE 'EM, UH, DEFINE TERMS OR ENTITIES. 
          UM, EVENTUALLY WE'LL BRING, UH, AN UPDATED VERSION THAT INCLUDES BOARD FEEDBACK. 
          WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION. 
          UM, WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT, OPPORTUNITY, DEPENDING ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          UH, AND THEN WE'LL TALK THROUGH, UH, EVENTUALLY WE'LL TALK THROUGH ADOPTION IMPLEMENTATION TIMELINE. 
          AND WE CAN PROVIDE TRAINING FOR, YOU KNOW, UH, ONBOARDING FOR NEW MEMBERS EVENTUALLY. 
          BUT, UM, UH, BASICALLY, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S CHANGES TO THE CHARTER OF BIO UP SO THAT WE HAVE NEW BOARD, UM, BOARD MEMBERS ON BOARD BECOME GOOD ORIENTATION OR TRAINING , THAT'S PRESENTATION. 
          AND I'LL PAUSE FOR QUESTIONS. 
          YEAH. 
          OUTTA CURIOSITY. 
          'CAUSE I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THIS BASED ON THE POLICY, WE TRY TO CHANGE THE, THIS DEPARTMENT OF ED. 
          WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF US HAVING LANGUAGE REGARDING EQUITY? 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S ALL CORE. 
          IT SHOULD BE THERE, BUT FUNDING POSSIBILITIES DOWN . 
          UM, I THINK FOR YOUR CHARTER PERSPECTIVE, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE, I DON'T KNOW. 
          THERE'S THE SAME RISK FROM THE CHARTER IN OUR APPLICATION. 
          THEY'RE CERTAINLY, UH, SCRUBBING APPLICATIONS FOR CERTAIN, LIKE TERMS. I THINK THERE'S LIKE SEVEN FORBIDDEN WORDS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW. 
          UM, I'M LOOKING AT JUST FELLOW HERE. 
          UM, QUICK INTRODUCTION, UH, JUST A SECOND DAY WITH THE CITY. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, JOSEPH PREVIOUSLY THE BOSTON COC PLANNING MANAGER. 
          AND, UH, I THINK JUST DID SOME WORK ON, UH, REVIEWING SOME LOSS OF LANGUAGE TO TRY TO MAXIMIZE FUNDING WHILE ALSO YOU'RE CAUTIOUS AROUND SOME KIND, SORT FEDERAL RISK. 
          UH, BUT YEAH, I THINK THERE ARE CERTAINLY  TERMINOLOGIES THAT ARE, ARE FLAGGED, BUT CHARTER BY ALL PERSPECTIVES. 
          I DON'T, THERE'S THE SAME ASSESSMENT OF OUR CHARTER AND BYLAWS, LIKE OBLIGATION . 
          THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU ALL, YEAH, I MEAN, UM, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN TO ABOUT, UH, UH, THE, UH, SPECIALIST FIVE EXACT FINAL. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, SO I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS IS FOR THE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES, THERE'S CERTAIN INFORMATION AND THINGS THAT WE ALL NEED TO SUBMIT. 
          UH, SO THAT INCLUDES, UH, YOU KNOW, APPLICATIONS AND POLICIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          WHEREAS A GOVERNANCE CHARTER SEPARATELY, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S SUBMITTED THERE. 
          SO IF THERE'S A DEEP DIVE, PERHAPS THERE COULD BE AN ISSUE. 
          BUT IN TERMS OF LIKE THE CONSOLIDATED APPLICATION THAT LONG BEACH WOULD BE SUBMITTING TO HUD, WE'RE NOT SUBMITTING THE GOVERNANCE CHARTER. 
          SO SOMETHING LOCALLY THAT REFLECTS OUR VALUES, UH, PROBABLY ONE OF THESE BIG CONCERN. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY WE CAN KIND OF MAKE ADJUSTMENTS DEPENDING ON WHAT THIS NEW, UM, SAYS. 
          ONE OF MY, EXCUSE ME, ONE OF MY SIDE HUSTLES SAYS I'M IN, SO I , I SUBMITTED MY EDITS TO THE PDF ALREADY. 
          I MEAN, I THINK THAT SHOULD PROBABLY BE SET TO THE WHOLE GROUP, I GUESS. 
          AND A LOT OF IT, SOME OF IT IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, BIPOC IS KIND OF PHASING OUT AND IN, IN, IN PREFERENCE OF MORE OF LIKE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE. 
          SO THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UM, AND JUST A GENERAL NOTE FOR EVERYBODY, THE WORD STAKEHOLDER, THAT'S COLONIAL, UM, MEANINGS. 
          SO IT'S A OFFENSIVE TO, UM, INDIGENOUS GROUPS. 
          SO, UM, ACCEPT ALL FRIENDLY. 
          SO I'VE, I'VE, I'VE SENT IT OUT. 
          I, I BELIEVE WE RECEIVED, I SENT IT TO YOU, AND I GUESS IF IT'S APPROPRIATE, SEND IT APPROPRIATE. 
          THANKS. 
          UM, WHAT'S THE NEW WORD? STATE INTEREST RATE. 
          PARTIES INVESTED, UH, ENTITY, UM, ENTITIES OF CONCERN NOW. 
          PARTNERS. 
          PARTNERS. 
          I LIKE THE ONE MORE. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THERE'S A MOTION. 
          HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS 
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ANSWERED. 
          CAN ADD A MOTION SO THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. 
          SO MOVE DISCUSSIONS. 
          SO A SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          WHO WAS SECOND? BRANDY BRAND? THANK YOU. 
          ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? DANA, LET'S TAKE WHAT ALL IN FAVOR, SECOND. 
          MOTION PASSES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE PRESENTATION ON THE DATA AND FOLLOW PLAN RIGHT THERE. 
          SORRY, THROW MY, NOT HERE. 
          PROBABLY THIS, UH, FRIDAY, BE AS EXCITING AS DALTON TALK ABOUT. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          WE'LL SEE . 
          SO, UH, AGAIN, THIS IS FOR INFORMATION. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON, UH, AND WE'LL BE BRING BACK TO YOU IN THE COMING MONTHS. 
          UH, SO, YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING AS A COC EVERY SO OFTEN IS LOOKING AT OUR DATA, UH, QUALITY PLANS AND UPDATING IT. 
          SO, UM, THIS KIND OF SETS WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE, UH, FOR THOSE ENTITIES PROVIDING SERVICES AS WELL AS US AS AN ADMINISTRATIVE ENTITY OVER THE HOMELESS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, UH, AND HOW WE'RE, HOW WE'RE GOVERNING THAT, HOW WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR AGENCIES. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S BEEN A MOMENT SINCE WE'VE UPDATED THAT. 
          AND AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, WE HAVE NOW, UH, MERGED IN . 
          SO THERE IS A PIECE OF IT THAT IS LOOKING AT, UH, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE START TO ALIGN AND, UH, ENSURE THAT OUR POLICIES ARE SIMILAR TO THE OVERALL LOS ANGELES, UH, HIS CLUB. 
          SO, AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE. 
          MAKES SENSE. 
          SO, UH, EVERY SO OFTEN THEY WANT US TO LOOK AT IT ANNUALLY. 
          UH, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO UPDATE IT ANNUALLY. 
          YOU COULD SAY NO CHANGES, BUT WE SHOULD BE ASSESSING THIS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND IDENTIFYING ARE THERE CHANGES THAT WE NEED TO MAKE? UH, THERE ARE SOME THAT WE MAKE KIND OF AS THE AGENT, MIS ADMINISTRATIVE ENTITY BASED ON SHIFTS THAT WE SEE AS THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING AT A HUD LEVEL. 
          UH, THINGS LIKE MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE NOT PUTTING IMMIGRATION STATUS WITHIN OUR DATA SYSTEM. 
          THOSE ARE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO LOOK AT AND HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THE BEST PRIVACY AND, AND DATA PROTECTION FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WE ARE SERVING. 
          SO THAT'S ONE THING WHERE WE'RE LIKE, WE'RE NOT GONNA NECESSARILY GO AND MAKE THAT A PUBLIC STATEMENT SAYING, WE'RE DOING THIS. 
          WE'RE JUST GONNA, UH, BUT, UM, THE OVERALL, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING FEEDBACK AND THAT WE ARE ADJUSTING BASED ON WHAT'S HAPPENING AROUND IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          UH, SO OUR DATA QUALITY PLAN ENSURES THAT WE ARE ACCURATELY TIMELY. 
          WE HAVE COMPLETENESS WITHIN OUR DATA, AND THAT OUR DATA IS CONSISTENT. 
          SO IF I'M PROVIDING A RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM AT MY AGENCY, AND THEN, UH, ALVIN IS RUNNING A DIFFERENT RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM, THE WAY THAT WE CAPTURE DATA AND THAT THE WAY THAT WE'RE SHOWING IT SHOULD BE CONSISTENT ACROSS OUR TWO PROGRAMS, WE SHOULDN'T BE SHOWING RAP, YOU KNOW, DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT WAYS, UH, THAT OUR RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM IS FULL THINKING. 
          SO WE WANT TO SHARE THEM SURE THAT OUR DATA IS CONSISTENT. 
          UH, OBVIOUSLY HAVING GOOD DATA THAT IS TIMELY, THAT IS COMPLETE, THAT IS CONSISTENT, ALLOWS US BETTER ABILITY TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS. 
          THIS STRENGTHENS OUR ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE PROVIDERS, UH, AND ENSURING THAT WE ARE ABLE TO COLLECT SYSTEMWIDE DATA VERSUS JUST PROGRAMMATIC DATA. 
          WE ARE ALL TALKING DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          IT WOULD BE HARD TO REPRESENT THIS IS WHAT OUR SYSTEM IS DOING AS A, UH, SO, UH, AGAIN, WE ARE LOOKING TO ALIGN THIS AS A REGIONAL CLOUD. 
          UH, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS EARLIER. 
          SO, UH, WE ARE REVIEWING AND HAVE HAD SOME CONVERSATION WITH LASA ABOUT THEIR 2 55, UH, DATA QUALITY 
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MONITORING PLAN AND THE PROVISIONS THAT THEY'VE MADE, UH, TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALIGNMENT AS WELL AS THERE MAY STILL BE SOME DIFFERENCES, BUT WE WANT TO BE, YOU KNOW, IN A, A SIMILAR AREA, NOT SOMETHING RADICALLY DIFFERENT. 
          UH, AS JEFF HAD SAID, UH, WE ARE STILL AWAITING, YOU KNOW, THE FINALIZATION OF THIS AUDIT OR FINDINGS, UH, AND RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          WE'VE SEEN A DROP. 
          NOT GONNA GET INTO SPECIFICS, UH, BUT WE KNOW SOME THINGS, AND WE'RE GOING TO START TO ADDRESS THOSE, UH, YOU KNOW, AS, AS WE WAIT FOR THAT TO BE FINALIZED, THEN TO RELEASE. 
          UH, WE DON'T HAVE NECESSARILY A TIMELINE AT THIS POINT, UH, SO WE KNOW SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE SPECIFICALLY BROUGHT FORWARD, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING. 
          SO, UH, THAT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, THE HIGH LEVEL NEEDS TO IT. 
          UM, SO WITHIN OUR DATA QUALITY PLAN, THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'RE WANTING TO OUTLINE AND SHARE THAT BUFFER. 
          UH, WHAT IS OUR EXPECTATION, AGAIN, IN THE AREAS OF TIMELINESS, COMPLETENESS, ACCESS AGENCY, AND WHO IS ULTIMATELY UTILIZING OUR HOMELESS MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEM. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE GET REQUESTS OF SOMEBODY THAT WANTS ACCESS TO HMI HAS, YOU KNOW, AND SOMETIMES IT'S, UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WANT THE ENTITY TO HAVE ACCESS INTO OUR SYSTEM. 
          THAT MEANS THEY CAN SEE SERVICE RECORDS AND DATA FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE. 
          SO THIS ALLOWS US TO SET, HEY, HERE'S WHO WE THINK SHOULD HAVE ACCESS. 
          HERE'S WHO WE POTENTIALLY DON'T WANT TO HAVE ACCESS. 
          UH, SO THOSE ARE ALL OUTLINED WITHIN OUR PLAN. 
          IT HELPS IN DEFINING ROLES FOR WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE COC BOARD WITHIN OUR DATA, WHAT'S THE ROLE OF, UH, THE HOMELESS SERVICES BUREAU AS THE ADMINISTRATIVE ENTITY AND THE DATA LEAD? UH, AND THEN WHAT'S THE EXPECTATION OF OUR AGENCY? AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENT ROLES EVEN WITHIN HMI. 
          SO WHO ARE THE UTE USERS? EACH AGENCY HAS THEIR DATA LEAD THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR PROGRAM AND THEN OUR LEADERSHIP, SO DALTON AND HIS TEAM. 
          AND WHAT ARE THEIR ROLES, UH, WITHIN THIS, UH, WITHIN OUR HMI HELPS US ESTABLISHING OUR MONITORING. 
          SO WHAT ARE WE EXPECTING ON A MONTHLY BASIS? WHAT ARE WE EXPECTING ON A QUARTERLY BASIS? AND THEN WHAT ARE WE DOING ON AN ANNUAL BASIS? UH, AND THERE'S SOME UPDATES THAT WE'RE GONNA DO AROUND THAT, UH, INCLUDES ENFORCEMENT AND REMIN REMEDIES FOR NON, UH, COMPLIANCE. 
          SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE HAVE AN AGENCY, MAYBE WE DON'T EVEN FUND THEM. 
          SO WE ARE ALLOWING ACCESS TO BOTH FUNDED ENTITIES AND NON-FUNDED ENTITIES THAT ARE PROVIDING SERVICES IN LONG BEACH IN OUR HMIS. 
          SO, WHETHER IT'S A FUNDED AGENCY OR A NON-FUNDED AGENCY, IF THEY'RE NOT FOLLOWING OUR POLICIES AROUND DATA, UH, MANAGEMENT, DATA PRIVACY, THERE'S A NUMBER OF AREAS THAT THEY COULD NOT BE FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH. 
          WHAT ARE OUR REMEDIES AS WELL AS LIKE, WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES IF THEY'RE NOT? UM, AND THEN IT ALSO HELPS US IN PLAYING OUT WHAT IS OUR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND GUIDANCE FOR OUR, UH, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, AGAIN, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT FOR REGIONAL ALIGNMENT. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY FLAGGED, UH, INCLUDING STRICTER TIME TIMELINESS STANDARDS. 
          SO LOSSA HAS A THREE DAY, WE HAVE A SIX DAY A AND R. 
          HOWEVER, THEN OUR HMIS CONTRACT HAVE A THREE DAY. 
          SO WE'RE JUST GONNA LOOK AT THAT AND KIND OF  RESET OUR BA UH, BENCHMARKS AROUND HAVING, UH, STRICTER TIMELINESS OF THE STANDARDS, AS WELL AS POTENTIAL CONSEQUENCES OF IF YOU'RE SECRET, LATENT PARTY AS AN, YOU KNOW, AS AN ENTITY AND ENTERING IN YOUR DATA TO OUR SYSTEM, WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES THAT WE ARE, ARE, UH, CONSISTENTLY BEING LAID BEYOND, UH, THAT, THAT STANDARD THAT GETS SET. 
          UM, AND THEN, UH, WHAT ARE, WE'LL TALK WHAT THIS MEANS IN A LITTLE BIT, AND I HAVE A LITTLE EXAMPLE, SO I'LL, I'LL REVISIT THAT AT THE EXAMPLE. 
          UH, WHAT PHASE COMPLETENESS AND ACCURACY BENCHMARKS LOOKS LIKE, UH, PROJECT SET UP AND DATA ACCURACY AS A NEW, UH, DOMAIN AND PROGRAM. 
          SO THIS CAME UP WITH ONE, ONE OF OUR PROJECTS WHERE, YOU KNOW, WITH BEST INTENT GOT SET UP, BUT SERVE THE PROJECT BACK THERE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN GOTTEN SET UP AS ANOTHER PRODUCT, 
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BUT I, IT WAS A MOMENT BEFORE IT GOT FLAGGED. 
          THERE'S STILL DATA THERE, BUT IT WAS MISSING SOME KEY ELEMENTS THAT MADE IT HARDER FOR REPORTING PURPOSES. 
          UH, SO A BETTER PROCESS US AROUND ENSURING, UH, PROJECT SET AND THEN EXPANDED MONITORING ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS, UH, ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          SO AGAIN, HERE ARE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT ARE BRINGING BROUGHT UP, UH, WITHIN CONVERSATIONS, UH, LACK OF ENFORCEMENT AND INCONSISTENT MONITORING OF STANDARDS, AND WHAT ARE THE TOOLS THAT WE NEED, UH, AND ADDITIONAL REPORTING FEATURES. 
          THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT ALL IN PLACE OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS THAT HAVE IMPROVED THIS. 
          UH, BUT JUST TRYING TO WORK WITH OUR VENDOR, UH, AND OUR REGIONAL PARTNERSHIPS ON, ARE THERE ADDITIONAL TOOLS THAT WE NEED TO, UH, LOOK AT DATA MONITORING, UH, GOING FORWARD. 
          AND THEN AGAIN, IMPROPER PROGRAM SETUP, LEADING IN WEEKLY DATA, UH, AND ENSURING THAT THERE IS BETTER PROCESS FOR THAT, UH, AS WELL AS POLICIES USE OF OUTDATED OR ACCURATE DATA, UH, AND IN DECISION MAKING. 
          SO AGAIN, IF THIS HAPPENS, THEN THIS IMPACTS OTHER THINGS. 
          SO, UH, JUST ENSURING AGAIN THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE. 
          UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE WORKING TO OVERCOME. 
          WE HAVE BIG RESOURCE STAFFING, BUT CONTINUING TO LOOK AT WAYS THAT WE WORK, THE LOSS OF WAYS THAT WE CREATE EFFICIENCY. 
          BUT WE DO HAVE LIMITED STAFFING CAPACITY, UH, FOR GROWTH ISSUE DETECTION. 
          SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE PUT INTO PLACE AND POLICIES TO HELP AND FLAGGING THINGS FURTHER WHEN THERE ARE ISSUES THAT ARISE. 
          UH, PERFORMANCE EVALUATIONS TOO INFREQUENT. 
          UH, THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING, UH, IN THAT AREA AS WELL, UH, WITH THE CREATION OF, OF OUR NEW, UH, YOU KNOW, MONITORING AND QUALITY ASSURANCE TEAM, UH, WITHIN THE SERVICES BUREAU. 
          SO THIS WILL HELP IN SETTING BETTER STANDARDS FOR THAT, UH, AND BETTER PROCESS GOING FORWARD. 
          AND THESE WILL ALL BE ADDRESSED WITHIN OUR, OUR REVISIONS. 
          SO NOT JUST A THROW DOWN LIST. 
          THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE WILL BE WORKING TO ENSURE THEY'RE INCORPORATED. 
          HMI HAS ACCESS GRANTED WITH THAT TRAINING VERIFICATION THAT PEOPLE WERE RECEIVING TRAINING, HOWEVER, HOW THAT'S VERIFIED. 
          THERE ARE BETTER SYSTEMS IN PLACE. 
          UH, WE'RE IN CONVERSATION WITH LOTS OF, THEY HAVE THE, UH, TRACKING SYSTEM WHERE SOME OF OUR OLDER STUFF WITH OUR PREVIOUS VENDOR WAS NOT BEING TRACKED WELL. 
          AND THEN SEVERAL DATA QUALITY STANDARDS, UH, TEAMED UNDER LINGUISTICS. 
          SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY MADE SOME ATIONS WE'LL BE TALKING A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE NEXT, UH, SECTION REGARDING THE, UH, SCORING AND RANKING. 
          SO SOME, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, AGAIN, ARE VARIOUS STANDARDS TO BE REALISTIC, PHASE AND ENFORCEABLE. 
          UH, SO THIS ALSO GOES BACK TO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT JEFF WAS SAYING, AS WELL AS MAKING SURE THAT AS WE PUT IN OUR, PUTTING TOGETHER OUR COC CONTRACTS, THAT THEY ARE LAYING OUT THOSE EXPECTATIONS UPFRONT, UH, AND SOME OF THE CITY BOILERPLATE LANGUAGE. 
          SO THIS WILL, UH, LEAD TO SOME CONTRACT, UH, UPDATES AS WELL, UH, AS THE DATE OF QUALITY PLAN GETS UPDATED, UH, IN QUARTER INCORPORATE PROGRAMS SET UP ACCURACY INTO MONITORING, CONDUCT INTERIM, UH, QUARTERLY AND ANNUAL PERFORMANCE REVIEWS. 
          SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT EXISTS, BUT REALLY KIND OF, UH, HAVING BETTER POLICIES AND PRACTICES AROUND IT, AND INCORPORATE SOME ADDITIONAL EXPECTATIONS ON THE PROVIDER SIDE TO HELP WITH THAT. 
          UM, IT'S NOT A TON OF ADDITIONAL WORK ON THE PROVIDER, BUT MAKING SURE THAT THERE IS SHARED RESPONSIBILITY WITHIN OUR DATA QUALITY, UH, AS A COC, UM, REQUIRING TRAINING VERIFICATION BEFORE GRANTED, H MINUS ACCESS. 
          AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN PRETTY CONSISTENT. 
          IT'S JUST HAVING A BETTER WAY OF TRACKING AND SIGNING OFF ON IT BEFORE PEOPLE ARE GETTING ACCESS. 
          AND THEN EXPANDING MONITORING. 
          UH, SO THIS WILL BE INCLUDING, AGAIN, AS I SAID, PROVIDERS DOING SOME CERTIFICATIONS ON THEIR OWN TO SAY, A REVIEW THIS DATA THIS MONTH. 
          WE ARE CERTIFY THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR DATA IS UP TO DATE, THAT IT'S ACCURATE AND REFLECTS WHAT OUR PROGRAM, UH, IS CURRENTLY DOING. 
          SO THERE ARE OTHER C EOCS THAT, THAT 
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INCORPORATE THIS, IT'S NOT OVERLY CUMBERSOME. 
          AND THEN GETS THE PROVIDERS TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE LOGGING ON THEIR DATA ON A MONTHLY BASIS AND NOT GETTING A QUARTER INTO A DATE PERIOD BEFORE THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEIR DATA AND GOING BUSINESS. 
          UH, AND THEN ADDITIONAL MONITORING FROM, UH, THE HOMELESS SERVICES BUREAU. 
          AND THEN, UH, REALLY, AGAIN, NOT NECESSARILY LOSS OF OVERSIGHT, BUT UH, LOSS OF COORDINATION AS THE HIS, UH, THEY HOLD THE PRIMARY CONTRACT WITH THE FOCUS AS THE VENDOR FOR OUR HMIS SYSTEM. 
          SO WORKING WITH 'EM AROUND REPORTING FEATURES AND NEW FUNCTIONALITY WITHIN H ONE S. 
          SO NEXT STEPS FOR THE COC BOARD, WE'LL BE, UH, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT ALL OF THIS AND INCORPORATING IT INTO OUR PLAN. 
          THERE WILL BE SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES. 
          UH, WE'RE A LITTLE FURTHER BEHIND ON THIS IN THE GOVERNANCE CHARTER, SO WE DON'T HAVE LIKE A PROPOSED DRAFT AT THIS POINT. 
          BUT A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE ARE WORKING TO INCORPORATE, UH, ONCE WE HAVE THAT, WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO THE COC BOARD FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO, UH, REVIEW, WEIGH IN, AND THEN I'LL ULTIMATELY GO THROUGH OUR PROCESS TO, UH, GET TO LY ADOPTED DATA, FULLY BLEND. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, LOOKING AT ALIGNMENT WITH LOSS, ENSURING THAT, UH, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH HOW THEY'RE MONITORING THEIR DATA, UH, AND THE  THAT THEY CREATED. 
          SO, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE DOING THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. 
          UH, WE WILL BE WORKING TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THESE CITY AUDITORS RECOMMENDATIONS AS THAT GETS FINALIZED. 
          UH, SO THAT'S, UH, IT'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF THIS WORK. 
          AND THEN, UH, ESTABLISHING SCHEDULES FOR INTERIM AND ANNUAL REVIEWS. 
          SO WE WILL HAVE A MORE CLEAR SCHEDULE THAN WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST THAT PROVIDERS CAN REFERENCE. 
          UH, AND THAT WILL BE, UH, TRACKING GOING FORWARD. 
          AND THEN ADDITIONAL SUPPORTS AROUND PROVIDING TRAINING, MONITORING, AND COMPLIANCE. 
          UH, SO THIS IS JUST A CROSSWALK AT LOOKING AT SOME DIFFERENCES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN FLAGGED AND THINGS THAT WE'RE IN DISCUSSION AROUND. 
          AGAIN, TIMELINESS, UH, AS WAS DISCUSSED, UM, THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, A TWO DAYS, UH, AND THEN ON SOME THINGS THEY REQUIRE SAME DAYS. 
          SO LIKE A BED IS EMPTY WITHIN A SHELTER, THEY EXPECT THAT NOT CHANGE RIGHT AWAY, SO THAT THEY PROVIDE IT FROM  FOR THAT THEN MAKES SENSE. 
          UH, WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE SOMETHING WITHIN THAT. 
          UH, THEY DO NOT HAVE NECESSARILY AN IDENTIFY, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE EXPECT IT TO BE TWO BUSINESS DAYS. 
          REALITY IS LIKE THINGS HAPPEN IN LINE, UH,  AND NOT EVERYBODY'S GONNA MAKE THAT TWO BUSINESS DAYS EVERY SINGLE TIME. 
          UH, SO WE HAVE SOME TOLERANCE BUILT IN. 
          I THINK THAT IS ACTUALLY GOOD. 
          UH, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT. 
          PROBABLY MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS. 
          UH, AND THEN, UH, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT IMPROVING MONITORING ENFORCEMENT GOING FORWARD. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE THE TOOLS TO SEE WHEN PEOPLE ARE CONSISTENTLY ENTERING DATA PAST OUR STANDARD? UH, HOW WE'RE FLAGGING THAT AND WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES FOR IF PEOPLE ARE NOT ENTERING DATA ON A TIMELY MANNER? SO, UH, THOSE WILL ALL BE THINGS LAID OUT, COMPLETENESS AND ACCURACY. 
          THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN CHECK IS THE, THE DATA WITHIN OUR, UH, SYSTEM. 
          ARE PEOPLE LEAVING THINGS BLANK? ARE THEY PUTTING IN THINGS THAT MIGHT CONFLICT WITH EACH OTHER? SO THERE ARE SOME AREAS WHERE THEY'RE ASKING SOMETHING IN A SIMILAR WAY. 
          AND IF YOU SAW SOMETHING WAS ANSWERED THIS WAY AND ANSWERED A DIFFERENT WAY SOMEWHERE ELSE, YOU CAN SAY, HEY, ONE OF THESE IS WRONG. 
          UH, SO THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE LOOK AT THAT. 
          SO WHEN WE LOOK AT COMPLETE WITH COMPLETENESS AND ACCURACY, UM, WE JUST HAVE A REALLY HIGH LEVEL OF, WE EXPECT LESS THAN 5% FOR MISSING AND REFUSED AND LESS THAN 10% FOR POTENTIAL INACCURACIES WHERE LOSS LOSSA HAS MORE PHASED TARGETS, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE DATA ELEMENTS ARE. 
          AND THEY HAVE DIFFERENT STANDARDS DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT IS. 
          AND THEN THEY HAVE NO TOLERANCE FOR HIGH PRIORITY ERRORS. 
          SO THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS WHERE THEY EXPECT YOU'RE NOT MISSING THAT. 
          AND THE, THE CORRECTNESS AND, UH, COMPLETENESS AND ACCURACY OF IT SHOULD BE ON. 
          SO, UM, WE ARE, WE ARE GONNA LOOK AT THAT  THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE DATA AND ELEMENTS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY VERSUS JUST HAVING THIS HIGHER ARCHING, UH, POLICY 
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THAT DOESN'T DIFFERENTIATE, YOU KNOW, DID SOMEBODY HAVE A NAME ENTERED WITH THEIR VERSE? UH, SO DO THEY HAVE AN ACTUAL ENTRY INTO OUR SYSTEM? AND SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE GONNA LOOK AT. 
          UH, AND WE MAY HAVE A LITTLE MORE NUANCED REFINEMENT AND MAY NOT BE THE EXACT SAME BASED ORDINANCE AS LOSSA DOES, BUT WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE SOME SORT OF PRIORITIZATION OF WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT AND SOME THINGS WHERE WE HAVE A LITTLE HIGHER TOLERANCE FOR INCOMPLETENESS AND ACCURACY INACCURACIES. 
          WHERE OTHER THINGS HAVE WE EXPECT YOU TO HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT, UH, MONITORING. 
          SO, UH, MONTHLY HSP REVIEW, QUARTERLY, UH, UTILIZATION. 
          SO THIS IS TWO DIFFERENT REPORTS. 
          UM, AND WE'RE DOING ALL OF THIS WORK, AND I CAN SAY LIKE, THERE ARE MOMENTS WHERE WE FALL BEHIND. 
          IT GETS A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT. 
          UM, SO WE ARE LOOKING AT LOSSES A WAY OF DOING IT. 
          THEY'RE LOOKING AT PROVIDER SELF CHECKS ON A MONTHLY BASIS. 
          THAT IS PROBABLY WHERE WE'RE GONNA END UP HEADING TOWARDS IS, HEY, WE'RE ASKING YOU TO TAKE A MONTHLY LOOK. 
          WE'RE GONNA LOOK ON A QUARTERLY BASIS. 
          AND THAT WAY WE HAVE MORE CAPACITY TO TAKE OUR TIME AND ENSURE THAT WE'RE, UH, UP TO DATE. 
          UM, AND THEN THEY HAVE A CLEAR PROCESS FOR HOW THEY TRIAGE AND ESCALATE CERTAIN ISSUES THAT COME UP. 
          WE'LL PROBABLY ALSO TAKE A LOOK AT TRYING TO CREATE SOMETHING SIMILAR OF, HEY, I GET ISSUE IS IDENTIFIED. 
          YOU KNOW, WHAT IS OUR PRIORITY AS FAR AS LIKE ENSURING THAT WE'RE RESPONDING WITH STAFF AND ADDITIONAL TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE. 
          UM, WE DO HAVE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT LANGUAGE AROUND AND ENFORCEMENT AND TRAININGS. 
          SO, UH, WHEN WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMETHING'S GOING WRONG, WE HAVE A WARNING, A TA PROCESS, PROBATION, AND HMIS UH, REVIEW. 
          THEY HAVE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THING, AND THEY DON'T ACTUALLY EVEN REALLY GET INTO HMIS RENEWABLE. 
          WE'LL PROBABLY STILL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THIS STUFF, UH, BUT LOOKING THAT TO ENSURE THAT WE, UM, ARE, UH, IN ALIGNMENT AND THAT, UH, THERE IS A WAY FOR BETTER TRACKING AND TRAINING, TECHNICAL TRAINING AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE WHEN, UH, SO THAT'S A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW. 
          AGAIN, ONCE WE ACTUALLY START TO MAKE THOSE IMPLEMENTATIONS AND CHANGES, WE CAN COME BACK AND WE CAN GET INTO THE SPECIFICS. 
          BUT THOSE ARE . 
          THANK WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          SECOND, I THINK MELANIE A  IN A SECOND. 
          ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? WELL, YEAH, I HAVE A CONCERN. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S MORE , YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ALL ONGOING THINGS THAT'S GOING ON WITH THEM. 
          BUT ONE THING I'VE BEEN SAY ABOUT LAS IS THEY ALWAYS GONNA GIVE NUMBERS. 
          SO KEEPING DATA, I DON'T GIVE THEM THAT. 
          AND, AND APPARENTLY THEIR CAPACITY IS GOING BE DIMINISHED ARE REALLY TWO DATA, RIGHT? THAT'S THE DIRECTION THEY'RE GOING IN, SO TO SPEAK, SAY THE AX, BUT ALSO WILL HAVE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT STAFFING REDUCTION. 
          UH, THEY'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY, UH, ABOUT 900 STAFF. 
          THEY'RE PROJECTING FROMWHERE BETWEEN, UH, THREE TO 400 STAFF REDUCTION OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR SO WITH THE CHANGES WITH FUNDING GOING OVER TO THE COUNTY. 
          SO, UH, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF AREAS OF THAT WILL IMPACT. 
          UH, A LAWSUIT WILL STILL REMAIN THE HMIS LEAD FOR THE LOS ANGELES COC. 
          SO, UH, SOME OF THE REPORTING STAFF WILL PROBABLY BE IMPACTED. 
          HOWEVER, THEIR HMIS STAFFING SHOULD, IN THEORY, , YOU KNOW, STAY, STAY SIMILAR TO WHERE IT HAS BEEN. 
          UM, AND I THINK AREAS WHERE LAA IS ALSO REALLY GOOD IS THEY HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT CAN WORK ON POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND LIKE TIME TO THINK THROUGH THAT. 
          SO LIKE, THEY DO HAVE REALLY GOOD POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT THEY DO CREATE AS WELL. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, TAKING A LOOK AT THOSE AND SOMETIMES BORROWING DOES MAKE A LOT OF SENSE. 
          I'M A DATA NURSE, YOU PROBABLY KNOW. 
          SO I REALLY APPRECIATED THIS. 
          I'M ALL ABOUT DATA GOVERNANCE. 
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UM, I, I'M NOT FAMILIAR THOUGH WITH THE HMIS SYSTEM, IS THERE QUALITATIVE DATA IN THERE? IS THERE A PLACE FOR LIKE NARRATIVE? SO THERE IS QUALITATIVE DATA. 
          SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT AREAS, UH, PRIMARY ONE BEING CASE NOTES. 
          UM, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED. 
          AND I THINK THERE IS PROS AND CONS ON LIKE HOW TO UTILIZE THAT QUALITATIVE DATA IN A MEANINGFUL WAY. 
          YES, LIKE THERE ARE AI TOOLS, BUT THERE ALSO IS, YOU KNOW, SOME SERIOUS CONCERNS AROUND PRIVACY AS IT RELATES TO, UH, AI. 
          SO THERE IS NO CURRENT TOOL THAT IS BEING UTILIZED WITHIN THAT FOCUS TO LIKE, TAKE THEMING OF QUALITATIVE DATA AND LIKE GIVE HIGH LEVEL THEMES. 
          UM, I DO THAT , MY, I STILL, THAT'S MY PROFESSIONAL JOB IS I'M QUALITATIVE AND ANALYZE. 
          YEAH. 
          ANYWAY, UM, BUT IT WAS MORE ABOUT, I'M, I'M ASKING MORE ABOUT LIKE THE PROTECTION OF QUALITATIVE DATA. 
          UM, THIS IS PROTECTIONS OF, UH, AND LIKE GUIDANCE AROUND QUANTITATIVE DATA, BUT QUALITATIVE DATA THAT, I MEAN, I ASSUME THE FORM HAS THE PERSON'S NAME ON IT, AND THEN THE NOTES. 
          SO AS FAR AS I DO SIT ON A DATA GOVERNANCE ADVISORY WORK GROUP, AND I AM THE ONE SPEARHEADING THE QUALITATIVE PROTECTIONS AREA. 
          UM, UH, HAPPY TO TRY TO, UM, TROUBLESHOOT OR WHATEVER, BUT LIKE HUMAN PROTECTION, THIS IS THE IRB SIDE OF ME COMING IN FOR LIKE HUMAN PROTECTIONS. 
          AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN CONVERSATIONS AROUND AND LIKE, DO WE NEED BETTER POLICIES AROUND HMIS IS NOT A HIPAA APPLIANCE SYSTEM, SO IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE SOMEBODY'S MEDICAL RECORDS OR SOMEBODY'S MENTAL HEALTH OR SUBSTANCE USE COUNSELING. 
          UH, WHAT IS SYSTEM OF RECORD? HOWEVER, PEOPLE ARE RECEIVING MENTAL HEALTH CARE, THEY'RE RECEIVING SUBSTANCE USE CARE, AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT LEVEL OF INFORMATION AS APPROPRIATE, WHEN SHOULD THEIR CASE NOTE NOT BE AVAILABLE TO THE REST OF THE SYSTEM? AND THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN PUT THOSE PROTECTIONS IN, AND FOR SOME PROGRAMS WE PUT CERTAIN PROTECTIONS ON, BUT IT'S RIGHT IF THERE ISN'T LIKE A OVERARCHING, YOU KNOW, SYSTEMWIDE POLICY. 
          SO THAT IS SOMETHING I'M INTERESTED, DEFINITELY. 
          I MEAN, I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, YEAH, I THINK I'D LIKE TO SEE PROTECTIONS AROUND QUALITATIVE DATA, EVEN IF THAT'S LIKE, THIS WILL BE DEALT WITH ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, BUT THIS IS PERSONALLY IDENTIFIABLE INFORMATION AND THEREFORE VULNERABLE. 
          THANKS. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, I LOVE THIS QUESTION BECAUSE, UM, WE JUST ALTER THE DATA SHOWING EVERYBODY DIFFERENCE ON NOW THAT YOU'RE MERGING WITH WITHOUT CAA, WHAT ARE THE PROTECTIONS FOR OUR, OUR SKIN HEALTHCARE DATA? KNOW, AS YOU MERGE, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE POLICY POSITIVE. 
          SO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          UH, WHY YOU, ME, WHAT, SO ELLIE CARE AND, UH, HEALTH NET HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH LOSSA ON DATA SHARING, UM, YEAH, DATA SHARE WITH LONG BEACH. 
          SO HOW MERGE, WHAT, WHAT TEXT PRECEDENT AND THOSE, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          WHERE'S THE, WHERE'S THE BENEFITS FROM ADVOCACY? CURIOUS. 
          DALTON COULD PROBABLY PROVIDE BETTER  INSIGHT AROUND THAT THAN I CAN. 
          SO NOT HAVING  TO LIMITS ME, BUT I CAN MAKE THAT, I THINK QUESTION YOU'RE CONCERNED CORRECTLY, HMIS AND MY EXPERIENCE IS A LITTLE, UH, AGAIN, PERSONAL EXPERIENCE FROM MY USE OF IT. 
          AND ACCESS IS A LITTLE LIMITED WHEN IT COMES TO SENSITIVE DATA REGARDING ANYTHING MEDICAL AND HEALTH SPECIFICALLY. 
          IT'S PRIMARILY, IF I'M, IF I'M CORRECT, IT'S DESIGNED TOWARDS THE HOUSING AND SHELTER PLACEMENT IN THOSE STATES, RIGHT? BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY WHAT SPAN IS. 
          H MY WHAT SPAN IS PROVIDING US IS SIMILAR TO HOLLY CARE HEALTH NET IS, YOU KNOW, CONFIRMATION OF IS THIS PERSON ENROLLED INTO MANAGED CARE AS A MANAGED CARE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THEIR MEDICAL, UH, NUMBER AS WELL AS WHO'S THEIR IDENTIFIED PRIMARY CARE. 
          SO THAT IS THE INFORMATION THAT THEY'RE GIVING BACK TO US. 
          WE'RE PROVIDING YOU, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY IDENTIFIABLE INFORMATION YOU CAN AND THEN SEND BACK TO US HOW THAT INTERFACES WITH, UH, LOSS. 
          I MEAN, FOR OUR PURPOSES WITH SPAN, WE WOULD JUST BE SENDING YOU THE, UM, PEOPLE WITHIN LONG BEACH BECAUSE THAT'S OUR AGREEMENT. 
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UH, WITH HEALTH NET LA CARE, IT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND WE HAVE COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH HEALTH NET AND LA CARE THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, LOSS OF WILL TAKE ALL INFORMATION, UH, OUT OF HMIS FOR ANYBODY IN THE COUNTY, SEND IT TO LA CARE. 
          SO LONG BEACH PEOPLE WILL JUST BE INCLUDED IN, UH, A LARGER TRANSFER MATCHING AND THEN DATA BACK. 
          SO, SO I'LL HAVE TO ASK  A LITTLE BIT, UH, IF THAT HAS BEEN BOUGHT THROUGH BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, NOT SOMETHING I'VE VIBED ON, LIKE, OH, MAYBE NOT ALL MANAGED CARE PROVIDERS HAVE THAT SAME, WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO REVIEW IT DATA SHARING AGREEMENT WITH ALL COC ENTITIES THERE IN , BECAUSE THERE'S FOUR, RIGHT? THERE'S THE CAPACITY, THERE'S LY, THERE'S NOT BEACH. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE. 
          I THINK SOME OF THEM DID NOT PURSUE THE DATA SHARING BECAUSE THEY'RE ROLLING AGAINST LOSS AT FIRST. 
          SO THEN IT'S, AND SO MAYBE IT'S QUESTION OF YEAH, IF YOU HAVE 'EM WITH LOSS, THEN IT MIGHT BE, YEAH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BUT WE'RE ALIGNING OUR PROCESS IS WHAT POSSIBLY DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE. 
          WE STARTED HIPI KNOW WE STARTED WITH YOU AND, AND YOU DIDN'T DO . 
          OKAY, I'LL CHECK IN WITH ALL AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE WE'RE EXCUSE. 
          UM, I, UH, I'VE OFTEN BROUGHT UP THIS SUBJECT, BUT I AM INTERESTED IN THE DATA BEING CAPTURED BY AREA IN LONG BEACH. 
          ARE YOU PROCEEDING TO CAPTURE YOUR DATA BY AREA AS WELL AS YOU KNOW, WHAT SERVICES, WHAT, WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE, WHAT SERVICES ARE BEING PROVIDED BY, BY, UH, PARTS OF THE CITY SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHICH PARTS ARE CONCENTRATED AND WHICH PARTS NEED ATTENTION? I MEAN, YES. 
          AND SO I THINK IT'S A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED THAN A STRAIGHT HOUSE OR NO ON THAT, YES, OUR OUTREACH DOES HAVE GEOLOCATION ABILITY. 
          SO WHEN WE ARE OUT MEETING WITH SOMEBODY AND WE ARE ENGAGING WITH 'EM ON WHERE THEY'RE LIVING, WE ARE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE IN CAROLINA PERSONS, THIS IS THE AREA THAT THEY STAY. 
          HOWEVER, WE'RE NOT ALWAYS MEETING IN PERSON WHERE THEY'RE ACTUALLY SLEEPING. 
          SO THERE ARE LIMITATIONS AND CHALLENGES TO OUR GEOLOCATION. 
          LIKE NOBODY COMES IN THE MSC, MAYBE THEY IDENTIFY WHERE THEY'RE STAYING, MAYBE THEY DON'T. 
          UM, SOMEBODY COMES IN TO DO ONE OF THE LIBRARIES, WE CAN PROBABLY ASSUME THAT THEY'RE SOMEWHERE, YOU KNOW, IN THE VICINITY OF THAT LIBRARY. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GEOLOCATING THEM TO SAY, THIS PERSON IS LIVING AT THE LIBRARY. 
          UM, SO YES, WE HAVE SOME CAPTURE, HOWEVER, IT IS NOT A FULLY COMPLETE PICTURE BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY ARE WE ENGAGING WITH WHERE THEY ARE ACTUALLY. 
          SO I THINK THAT IS SOME OF THE CONVERSATION AROUND LIKE USING GEO GEOLOCATION FOR MATCHING AT A LARGER LEVEL OF LIKE MATCHING SOMEBODY IN A SERVICE PLANNING AREA. 
          GEOLOCATION WORKS OKAY, IF IT GETS DOWN TO LIKE WHO'S LIVING IN THIS AREA AND YOU WANT TO GET MORE GRANULAR, IT GETS A LITTLE MORE FUZZY. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WITH THIS. 
          WE HAVE SOME INFORMATION, IT'S NOT A PICTURE, UM, YOU KNOW, POINT IN TIME GIVES MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF A CLEAR PICTURE BECAUSE IT'S, WE'RE SPECIFICALLY ENCOUNTERING PEOPLE BROKEN INTO SMALLER MAPS. 
          SO THAT IS KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT. 
          WE ARE VERY HESITANT TO GO TOO GRANULAR ON RELEASING ANY SORT OF GEOLOCATION OR PERSONAL PRIVACY. 
          UM, BUT WE HAVE LOOKED AT THINGS LIKE HEAT MAPS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT GIVES A BETTER SIDE. 
          SO HEY, WE ARE SEEING MORE PEOPLE IN LESS PART THE CITY, RIGHT? OVER HERE. 
          WE HAVE A LITTLE LOT PEOPLE. 
          SO YEAH, I'M, I'M REFERRING TO NOT A SPECIFIC LIKE SMALL AREA FOR I'M, I'M LOOKING FOR TRENDS, YOU KNOW, UH, IS THIS PART OF THE CITY MORE CONCENTRATED, UM, IN, IN TERMS OF WHERE THEY'RE, THEY SEEM TO BE COMING OR IS IT LESS CONCENTRATED? YOU KNOW, THAT WAY WE CAN FOCUS ON MAKING SURE THAT THE ENTIRE 
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CITY IS SERVICED THE WAY IT SHOULD BE. 
          THAT KIND OF DATA ANALYSIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. 
          YEAH. 
          THEN WE SERVE THE WHOLE CITY. 
          THAT IS THE EXPECTATION. 
          SO WE ARE CAPTURING PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN AREAS WHERE WE ARE SEEING SIGNIFICANTLY MORE PEOPLE. 
          UM, ONE THING THAT HAPPENS SIMILAR TO PD, UNFORTUNATELY, UM, AS WE ALLOW PEOPLE TO FALL IN FOR SERVICE REQUESTS, THERE ARE CERTAIN PARTS OF THE CITY WHERE WE SEE HIGHER REQUESTS, BUT WE DON'T NECESSARILY SEE MORE PRESSURE THERE. 
          WE DO TRY TO BALANCE THAT OUT, UH, AND NOT LIKE COMPLETELY GO OFF OF HEY, LEAST THAT BASED ON WHERE WE'RE SEEING PEOPLE. 
          UM, WE ACTUALLY FIND THAT LIKE THE BREAKING OUT AND UTILIZING THE SAME, UH, AREAS THAT PD DOES OF NORTH SOUTHWEST EAST WITHIN THE MAPPINGS EAST IS A MUCH BIGGER COVERAGE. 
          THERE ARE LESS CONCENTRATIONS WITHIN EAST, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT BIGGER MAP, IT KIND OF PULLS OUT. 
          UH, SO WITHIN OUR TEAMS COVERING CERTAIN DISTRICTS, UH, ARE CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY THAT WORKS OUT WHERE THEY HAVE A PRETTY BALANCED WORKLOAD. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING WE LOOK AT, UM, AND ENSURE THAT LIKE WE ARE PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR COVERAGE AND THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE A SMALLER REP, BUT IT IS MORE THAT. 
          SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          THINGS LIKE THE MOBILE ACCESS CENTER IS BASED ON GEOLOCATION DATA. 
          UH, HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WE SEEING IN THAT AREA? WE HAVE MOVED AROUND BECAUSE ONCE CERTAIN PLACES WHERE WEREN'T, WEREN'T SEEING THE, SO THERE HAS BEEN SOME, YOU KNOW, LEARNING AND ADJUSTMENT WITHIN THAT. 
          UH, SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE DO UTILIZE WITHIN DECISION MAKING AND OUR SURFACES ARE, ARE SPARED TOWARDS. 
          YEAH, AND THEY DO MOVE AROUND A LOT. 
          SO, UM, THAT DATA HAS TO BE REEVALUATED, UH, QUARTERLY. 
          IT MUST ALWAYS, YOU MIGHT, YOU MIGHT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE MOBILE ACCESS CENTER, THERE HAVE BEEN LOCATIONS WHERE WE SAT UP, SET UP, WE WERE BUSY AND LIKE ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU KNOW, FIVE MONTHS LATER IT'S LIKE NOBODY REALLY OPENED AROUND HERE ANYMORE AND IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO BE HERE. 
          IT'S TIME TO LOOK AT A NEW ATION, RIGHT? SO THANKS. 
          PEOPLE DO MOVE, PEOPLE SAYING WHERE THEY'RE OFF. 
          ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS BEING DONE? STATEABLE ALL FAVOR ACCEPT SEASON  ALL VOTES. 
          MOTION PASSES. 
          OKAY, NEXT STEP IS ITEM NUMBER EIGHT ON OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A PRESENTATION APPROVING THE RANKING AND PRIORITIZATION POLICY AND METHODOLOGY. 
          UH, ALL I'LL BRING A LITTLE WONKY. 
          THIS IS THE ONE ITEM WHERE WE ARE PROVIDING ME A PRESENTATION, BUT WE ARE, WE HAVE ALSO, UH, PROVIDED THE POLICY ALONG WITH THE PRESENTATIONS. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE NO CONCERNS, YOU'RE COMFORTABLE, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE THEM BECAUSE IF THE COMPETITION SEEMS MORE TO GET RELEASED NEXT WEEK, WE ARE GONNA NEED TO LIVE ON THIS PRETTY QUICKLY. 
          UH, IF THERE ARE MAJOR CONCERNS, THE LIKELIHOOD IT WOULD BE THAT WE MIGHT NEED TO SCHEDULE A SPECIAL MEETING, UH, TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE, AND APPROVE IT SO WE CAN START SCORING AND RANKING, UH, PROCESS WITH, IF IT WERE TO BE THREE WEEKS, I BELIEVE 35 . 
          UM, SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA GO OVER KIND OF WHAT OUR SYSTEM PERFORMANCE MEASURES ARE. 
          UH, AN OVERVIEW OF A SCORING AND RANKING FOR THE COC. 
          OUR PROCESS FOR OUR COC DOES LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF OUR OTHER FUNDING. 
          I THINK THERE ARE ACTUALLY SOME REALLY GOOD THINGS ABOUT OUR PROCESS WITHIN THE COC. 
          THERE'S, UH, TO OTHER ASPECTS AND OTHER FUNDING SOURCES. 
          SO, UM, COC DOES ALLOW US TO SET REALLY CONSISTENT PROGRAMS AND TO LOOK AT 
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THEM ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. 
          ARE THEY PERFORMING AS WE WOULD EXPECT THEM TO BE PERFORMING? LOOKING AT HOW ARE THEY PERFORM PERFORMING IN, UH, COMPARISON TO OTHER SIMILAR PROJECTS? AND IF THEY'RE PERFORMING WELL, WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO INVEST IN THOSE PROJECTS. 
          IF THEY'RE NOT PERFORMING WELL, WE SHOULD CONSIDER SCORING THEM LOW, LOW, UH, WHERE THEY MIGHT BE AT RISK OR EVEN AS A BOARD, UH, AND AS A CITY, UH, CONSIDERING REALLOCATING THEM AND CREATING A NEW PROJECT OR EXPANDING AN EXISTING PROJECT THAT IS. 
          SO IN THAT SENSE, LIKE SCORING AND RANKING DOES PROVIDE SOME PRETTY GOOD INCENTIVES FOR PERFORMANCE. 
          THE REWARDS, THOSE THAT ARE PERFORM WELL AND WORKS TO HAVE SOME LEVEL OF, UH, POTENTIAL CONSEQUENCE FOR THOSE THAT ARE. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF OUR WHY, UH, HOW WE ARE LOOKING AT PERFORMANCE AND SCORING AND RANKING. 
          UH, WE ARE LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS, INCLUDING INPUTS. 
          THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE A LITTLE MORE SIMPLE. 
          UH, THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU PARTICIPATING, ARE YOU ENROLLING PEOPLE? DO YOU EVEN HAVE A THING AROUND MEETING ATTENDANCE FOR THE COC THAT ARE SOME BONUS POINTS. 
          UH, SO THOSE ARE REALLY, YOU KNOW, OUR PARTICIPATION. 
          UM, ARE YOU SUBMITTING YOUR INVOICES ON A FAMILY MANNER? OUTPUTS? THOSE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE SERVED. 
          OCCUPANCY RATES. 
          HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GETTING HOUSED? ARE YOU, UH, SUPPORTING PEOPLE IN INCREASING THEIR INCOME? THOSE ARE ALL OUTPUT OUTCOME TYPE THINGS THAT WE'RE MEASURING, UH, THAT WE LOOK AT. 
          AND THEN WE DO WORK TO TAILOR THEM BY PRODUCT, UH, WHICH WE'LL GET INTO IN A LITTLE IMPLEMENTING. 
          UH, WE MADE SOME CHANGES OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. 
          UH, SO JUST PROVIDING SOME UPDATES AROUND WHAT WE IMPLEMENTED THIS YEAR AND THEN STUFF THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO IMPLEMENT THIS OR LAST YEAR. 
          AND THEN STUFF THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO IMPLEMENT THIS YEAR. 
          UH, SO TAILORED FITTING OUTPUT METRICS TO PROJECT TYPES, UH, ASSESSING AREAS OF INFLOW, PROGRAM ENROLLMENT AND OUTFLOW. 
          SO, UH, THERE, WHEN WE LOOK AT DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, WE EXPECT THAT EXITS ARE HAPPENING AT DIFFERENT RATES. 
          WE EXPECT THAT OCCUPANCY MAY LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT FOR A RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM VERSUS A PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROGRAM. 
          IF A PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROGRAM SAYS, HEY, WE ARE GONNA SERVE, YOU KNOW, 100 HOUSEHOLDS DURING THE YEAR, WE'D EXPECT THAT THEY, AT ANY GIVEN POINT HAVE 98 ON AVERAGE PEOPLE ENROLLED IN THEIR PROGRAM AND HOUSE FOR A RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM THAT SAYS, HEY, WE'RE GONNA SERVE A HUNDRED PEOPLE OVER A YEAR. 
          WE DON'T EXPECT THEM TO HAVE A HUNDRED PEOPLE ENROLLED AT ANY GIVEN POINT. 
          UH, THEY MAY BE SERVING 75 PEOPLE AND PEOPLE ARE FLOWING THROUGH AT A DIFFERENT RATE. 
          SO WE'VE ADJUSTED, UH, SOME OF OUR EXPECTATIONS AROUND THAT BASED ON PROGRAM PROJECT TYPE. 
          UM, AND THEN, UH, WE'VE DONE A LITTLE BIT ON AROUND, UH, OCCUPANCY AND LOOKING AT THAT UNIT MAINTENANCE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE'D EXPECT THAT THAT UNITS AREN'T OFFLINE FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME, BUT SAY SOMEBODY WAS LOOKING IN THEIR PSH UNIT FOR, YOU KNOW, EIGHT YEARS AND THEY JUST MOVED OUT, THERE MIGHT BE SOME DAMAGE AND IT MAY TAKE A MOMENT FOR THAT VE UH, FOR THAT UNIT TO COME ONLINE. 
          SO DURING THAT PRODUCT MOMENT, THEY LET US KNOW, HEY, WE'RE CONDUCTING MAINTENANCE. 
          THAT THAT ALSO IS A FACTORED INTO THEIR. 
          SO, UH, IT'S JUST KIND OF A NEW WAY OF LOOKING AT THAT AND HAVING BETTER CULTURE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN EACH TRIAL. 
          SOME CHANGES THAT WE ARE IMPLEMENTING THIS YEAR. 
          UM, SO, UH, THIS IS A NEW ONE, UH, AND SOMETHING THAT IS REQUIRED. 
          HOWEVER, WE'VE NOT NECESSARILY LOOKED AT IT IN THE PAST. 
          UH, SO WE JUST HAVE A FEW POINTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT THIS YEAR. 
          UH, AND THAT'S THE ADDITIONAL OF LOOKING AT ANNUAL ASSESSMENTS AS A SCORED, UH, PERFORMANCE MEASURE. 
          SO IF YOU'VE BEEN SERVING SOMEBODY FOR MORE THAN A YEAR, WE EXPECT THAT YOU HAVE AN ANNUAL ASSESSMENT FOR EACH PERSON IN THE SYSTEM. 
          UH, THIS IS NEW AND IT'S JUST, IT COMES DOWN TO QUALITY ASSURANCE MANAGER LIKE, HEY, WE EXPECT THAT YOU'RE CHECKING IN WITH PEOPLE AND THAT YOU'RE UPDATING YOUR PLAN, YOU'RE UPDATING YOUR DOCUMENTS, YOU'RE ENSURING THAT, 
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UH, NOTHING DRASTICALLY HAS CHANGED FOR THIS HOUSEHOLD. 
          NO MAJOR CHANGE, DIFFERENT INCOME OR OTHER FACTORS THAT MIGHT, UH, NEED TO BE FACTORED IN. 
          HOW, UH, SO THIS IS NEW, SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF POINTS THIS YEAR. 
          UH, IT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT WE LOOK AT, MAYBE ADJUST A LITTLE BIT IN THE . 
          UH, WE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A MOMENT. 
          WE'RE DOING IT THIS YEAR. 
          SO, UH, SUPPORTIVE SERVICE ONLY PROGRAMS WILL RECEIVE A PUBLISHED SCORE FOR THE FIRST TIME, UH, STILL PROPOSING TO BE EXEMPT FOR THE TIME, UH, WITHIN THE RANK. 
          SO THEY WILL RECEIVE A SCORE THAT WE PUT OUT PUBLICLY WHERE WE'VE JUST BEEN EXEMPTING OUR SUPPORTIVE SERVICES ONLY AS KIND OF THE BACKBONE FOR UNCOORDINATED ENTRY SYSTEM, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT OF OUR COC. 
          SO WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A COORDINATED ENTRY SYSTEM. 
          THIS IS HOW WE OPERATE OUR COORDINATED ENTRY SYSTEM. 
          HOWEVER, WE FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD START PUBLISHING A STORE AND EVEN CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE, UH, THAT THEY DO BE RANKED AND NOT JUST COMPLETELY EXEMPTED, UH, BUT WE WANT TO SET SOME BASELINES ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES PERFORMANCE LOOK LIKE FOR OUR S UH, AND THEN LASTLY, WE USED TO, DEPENDING ON DIFFERENT THINGS, KIND OF BOUNCE AROUND BETWEEN UTILIZATION OF PERSON VERSUS HOUSEHOLDS, WE'RE NOW RECEIVING HOUSEHOLDS AS THE, UH, MEASURE ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          SO THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT YOU SERVE BOTH SINGLE INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES WITHIN OUR CITY OC UM, IT GETS A LITTLE BIT WEIRD WHEN YOU'RE BOUNCING BACK AND FORTH WITHIN THE SAME PROJECT. 
          WE'RE JUST GONNA USE HOUSEHOLD. 
          THOSE HOW MANY HOUSEHOLDS DID YOU SAY YOU'RE GONNA SERVE? THAT'S GONNA BE WHAT WE'RE GONNA MEASURE TOWARDS, AND NOT JUST PER PERSON. 
          'CAUSE THAT FLUCTUATES. 
          UM, AND FOR OUR FAMILY PROVIDERS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE USING PERSON VERSUS HOUSEHOLDS, YOU MIGHT HAVE A HOUSEHOLD WITH 10 PEOPLE AND LIKE THAT'S GONNA END UP BEING WEIRD WITHIN SOMEBODY. 
          UM, THERE ARE A FEW AREAS WHERE WE MEASURE UP ANY ADULT AND IN THAT HOUSEHOLD, UH, FOR A FEW THINGS, BUT OVERALL, OR HOW MANY, UH, YOUR SERVICE TARGETS AND YOUR OCCUPANCY WE'RE NOW LOOKING AT, UM, ALSO WENT OVER THIS A LITTLE BIT. 
          WE HAVE CONTINUED TO UTILIZE, UH, MORE FLEXIBLE WAY OF LOOKING AT PERFORMANCE. 
          SO WITHIN EACH OF OUR THING AREAS THAT WE'RE MEASURING, WE DO HAVE A TARGET. 
          THIS IS WHERE WE'D LIKE TO SEE PEOPLE BE. 
          HOWEVER, IN THE CASE THAT NO PROVIDERS GET TO A CERTAIN TARGET, UH, WE HAVE THIS BACKUP WHERE WE START TO LOOK AT STANDARD DV. 
          SO WHAT DOES A STANDARD DEVIATION MEAN? , IT'S BASICALLY A WAY OF TAKING DATA ACROSS THE SET OF, UH, SIMILAR, UH, SIMILAR SERVICE TYPE AND SAYING, HEY, WHEN I LOOK AT PROVIDER A, B, C, D, E, F, G, CAN I SEE A DIFFERENCE IN THEIR DATA THAT WOULD INDICATE, YOU KNOW, ONE STANDARD DEVIATION IN ONE DIRECTION? IT MIGHT MEAN THEY'RE DOING POORLY OR THEY'RE DOING WELL. 
          AND THEN TWO STANDARD DEVIATIONS. 
          YOU COULD SAY THIS PROVIDER IS DOING VERY WELL IN COMPARISON TO THE OTHER PROVIDERS WHERE THE STANDARD DEVIATIONS IN THE NEGATIVE DIRECTION WOULD BE THEY'RE DOING VERY POORLY. 
          UM, SO STANDARD DEVIATIONS ALLOWS US AND A SITUATION WHERE SOMEBODY DOESN'T, NONE OF THE PROVIDERS ARE MEETING A CERTAIN EXPECTATION. 
          IT ALLOWS US TO USE STANDARD DEVIATIONS TO GO, HEY, MAYBE SOMETHING HAPPENED WITHIN THE ECONOMY, WITHIN THE ENVIRONMENT THAT'S IMPACTING, UH, THAT PERFORMANCE MEASURE. 
          BUT IN COMPARISON TO YOUR PEERS THAT ARE PROVIDING A SIMILAR SERVICE, ARE YOU DOING WELL OR ARE YOU DOING POORLY? AND WE'RE GOING TO SCORE YOU, UH, IN COMPARISON TO YOUR LIFE. 
          UM, SO HERE'S OUR PSH AS WE LOOK AT, UH, OUR PROGRAM PERFORMANCE. 
          SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT AREAS, UH, THAT WE ARE MEASURING BETTER UNIT OFFERABILITY. 
          SO AGAIN, THIS IS TALKING TO, UM, ARE THESE BED UTILIZABLE OR THESE UNITS EQUAL UTILIZABLE FOR? SO WE EXPECT THAT YOU HAVE AT LEAST 95% OF YOUR UNITS AVAILABLE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. 
          UH, RESIDENTIAL OCCUPANCY RATE. 
          WE WOULD EXPECT THAT, YOU KNOW, TO BE SUCCESSFUL, TO RECEIVE FULL POINTS THAT YOU ARE AT LEAST 
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90%. 
          WE DON'T ACTUALLY GIVE. 
          THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW AREAS WHERE WE DON'T GET INTO STANDARD DEVIATIONS. 
          THOSE AND EXPECT ON PSH PROJECT, THEY COULD  THAT SEMESTER WHILE, UM, SO FOR OUR PSH, WE SEE THAT MOST AGENCIES, UH, EXCEED THAT 90% SUCCESS RATE. 
          UH, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH ONE AND WE EVEN DID SOME LOCATION WHERE WE WERE SEEING LOWER OCCUPANCY, UH, ON THE PSH SIDE. 
          SO THAT IS ONE AREA WHERE IF YOU DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF TIL TO, UH, THE NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS SERVED, SO WHAT'S YOUR TARGET OVER THE YEAR? UH, THIS ACTUALLY ALIGNS ON THIS ONE WHERE, HEY, WE EXPECT YOU TO SERVE AT LEAST 90% OF YOUR TARGETS TO BE SUCCESSFUL. 
          AGAIN, MOST OF OUR PSH PROVIDERS ARE DOING THAT. 
          UH, WHERE WE HAVE FALLEN SHORT, UH, THOSE ARE AGENCIES THAT WE'VE DONE SOME CHANGES WITH. 
          WE'VE DONE SOME REALLOCATION AS WELL AS CONSOLIDATION, UH, AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR PROJECTS ARE BEING SUCCESSFUL AROUND THE OCCUPANCY, NUMBER OF PEOPLE, UH, NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS TO BE SERVED. 
          UM, RATE OF CONDUCTING THE ANNUAL ASSESSMENT. 
          AGAIN, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE WILL, UH, BE EXPLORING THIS. 
          SO, UH, WE'RE WANTING TO SEE THAT AT LEAST 80% OF YOUR PEOPLE, UH, YOUR HOUSEHOLDS THAT YOU ARE SERVING THAT HAVE BEEN ENROLLED FOR OVER A YEAR HAVE AN ANNUAL ASSESSMENT. 
          UH, WE DO HAVE SOME STANDARD DEVIATIONS. 
          WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE OF A FRIENDLY ONE ON THIS ONE THAN SOME OF OUR OTHER ONES. 
          SO, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T MEASURED THIS BEFORE, WE'RE SAYING, HEY, IF YOU'RE ONE STANDARD DEVIATION IN COMPARISON, YOU'RE DOING WELL VERSUS VERY WELL. 
          WE'LL GIVE YOU FULL POINTS. 
          UM, AND THEN IF YOU'RE BETWEEN ONE AND NEGATIVE TWO STANDARD DEVIATIONS, WE'LL GIVE YOU HALF THE POINTS. 
          IF YOU'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, VERY , VERY POORLY, WE'RE NOT GONNA GIVE YOU ANY NEEDS. 
          UM, SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA STRIVE FOR IN FUTURE YEARS. 
          WE MAY ADJUST, WE MAY GO UP OR DOWN WITHIN WHAT WE CONTINUE SUCCESS AS. 
          THIS WILL BE OUR FIRST TIME LOOKING, UH, NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS REMAINING IN PERMANENT HOUSING. 
          RPSH PROVIDERS ACTUALLY DO A PHENOMENAL JOB AT IT. 
          UH, WE'RE CLOSE TO 98% WHEN WE LOOK AT IT ACROSS OF THE ORG. 
          UM, SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, NUMBER, WE DON'T, WE EXPECT, LIKE THERE'S NOT A HIGH TURNOVER RATE AND A HIGH NUMBER OF PEOPLE EXITING OUT OF OUR PERMANENT SUPPORT THOUSAND, IT'S CALLED PERMANENT SUPPORT THOUSAND FOR A REASON. 
          UH, BUT WE DO WANT TO SEE SOME GRADUATION. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, DO WE WANT OUR SYSTEM TO BE A HUNDRED PERCENT ACROSS THE BOARD? NO, WE DON'T WANT A HUNDRED PERCENT ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          WE WANT SOME PEOPLE TO GET BETTER AND MOVE ON IN THEIR LIFE EACH YEAR. 
          HOWEVER, WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO SEE A LOW RATE WITHIN THIS WHERE PEOPLE ARE EXITING FOR NEGATIVES. 
          UH, SO PERIOD FOR SUCCESS RETENTION. 
          SO THIS'LL BE ANYBODY THAT WAS, THIS IS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF STAIRS. 
          SO PEOPLE IN, UH, STILL ENROLLED AT THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          SO FOR OUR FISCAL YEAR ON ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS, THEY'RE ALL ARE ALIGNED. 
          SO ON JUNE 30TH, 2025, HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE STILL IN YOUR PROJECT? UH, AND THEN IN COMPARISON OF HOW MANY PEOPLE HAD BEEN IN THE PROJECT OVER THE FULL YEAR, WHICH WAS, UH, JULY 1ST, 2024 TO JUNE 30TH, 25, OVER THAT YEAR, HOW MANY PEOPLE DID YOU STAY? AND THAT'S HOW YOU GET JUST THAT , THE FUNDING ENVIRONMENT. 
          WHAT'S YOUR, UM,  SUBSIDIES? WELL, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THESE, THE, THE SUBSIDY IS CONTROLLED BY THE COC, SO IT'S NOT AS IMPACTED IN OTHER WAYS OF SOME OF OUR OTHER VOUCHERS. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'D EXPECT, UH, THIS TO BE DRASTICALLY IMPACTED. 
          UM, THE NUMBER OF ADULTS INCREASING INCOME, UH, AGAIN, FROM ANY SOURCE DURING ENROLLMENT. 
          WE ACTUALLY BREAK THIS UP INTO TWO DIFFERENT SECTIONS WITHIN THERE. 
          SO THERE IS A LITTLE MORE FINENESS WITHIN THE ACTUAL POLICY IF YOU LOOK AT IT. 
          SO WE HAVE ONE THAT LOOKS AT INCOME FROM EMPLOYMENT AND THEN INCOME FROM OTHER SOURCES, WHICH MIGHT BE BENEFITS LIKE S-S-I-S-S-D-I, UH, GENERAL RELIEF. 
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UM, AND WE EXPECT OVER THE PROGRAM THAT, YOU KNOW, 40 ISH PERCENT OF PEOPLE BETWEEN THE TWO BUCKETS. 
          UH, WE SEE A MUCH LOWER NUMBER ON INCREASED INCOME AND PSHA HIGHER NUMBER WITHIN, UM, OUR OTHER INCOME SOURCES. 
          UH, SO THIS IS ACTUALLY WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR PROGRAMS, 40% BETWEEN THE CATEGORY IS KIND OF WHAT WE, THE MEDIAN OF OUR, OUR PERFORMANCE OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. 
          SO THAT'S HOW WE COME TO THAT TARGET. 
          UH, THE NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS EXITING PERMANENT TO PERMANENT HOUSING DESTINATIONS. 
          UH, SO THIS IS A TOTAL NUMBER OF EXITS, AGAIN, TO A PERMANENT DESTINATION. 
          SO WHEN SOMEBODY LEAVES, ARE THEY SUCCESSFUL LEAVING? NOT, HEY, WE EVICTED THIS PERSON, ATE THEM OUT PROGRAM. 
          WE UNDERSTAND THAT MAY HAPPEN ON OCCASION DEPENDING ON WHAT IS OCCURRING, UH, AND FOR THE SAFETY OF OTHER PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS, HOWEVER, WE WOULD HOPE THAT THAT'S NOT HAPPENING ON ANY HIGH LEVEL. 
          SO WE EXPECT THAT AT LEAST 80% OF YOUR PEOPLE THAT ARE EXITING ARE EXITING PERMANENT HOUSING DESTINATIONS. 
          THIS DOES EXCLUDE PEOPLE THAT, UH, ARE EXITED DUE TO BEING DISTANCED. 
          SO PEOPLE ARE IN PSH FORTUNATELY DO DIE IN HOUSING. 
          SO IF SOMEBODY DIES AND THEY'RE EXITING 'CAUSE THEY'VE DIED, THAT IS NOT COUNTED AGAINST THE PROGRAM. 
          UH, THE NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS EXITING TO UNKNOWN DESTINATIONS. 
          THIS HAS ACTUALLY REALLY IMPROVED. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAD INCORPORATED BECAUSE WE WERE SEEING SOME REAL CONCERNS AROUND, UH, EXITS ON UNKNOWN DESTINATIONS. 
          SO MUCH. 
          SO IT'S APPROVED ON THE PSH SIDE THAT OUR TARGET IS 0%. 
          WANT FULL POINTS, YOU NEED TO HAVE 0%. 
          AND THAT IS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF OUR PSH PROVIDERS HAVE BEEN. 
          UH, THERE'S ONLY ONE INSTANCE WHERE WE SAW EXITS, UH, TO A, WHERE LIKE IT WAS AN UNKNOWN DESTINATION. 
          UM, SO HEY, YOU'RE SERVING SOMEBODY IN YOUR HOUSING 'EM AND YOU'RE PROVIDING AN SERVICES FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. 
          IF YOU HAVE TO EXIT THEM FOR SOME NEGATIVE OR REASON, WE HOPE THAT YOU'RE AT LEAST DOCUMENTING WHERE THEY WENT. 
          UM, SO THIS IS, AGAIN, BASED ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN PERFORMANCE. 
          AND THEN THE NUMBER OF ADULTS EXITING WITH NO FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE. 
          AGAIN, WE EXPECT THAT HOPEFULLY YOU'RE INCREASING SOME INCOME. 
          HOWEVER, WE KNOW THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE COMING INTO YOUR PROJECT WITH FIXED INCOME, UM, AND YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO INCREASE THEIR INCOME. 
          BUT WE SURE DON'T WANT TO SEE SITUATIONS WHERE SOMEBODY CAME INTO YOUR PROGRAM WITH INCOME OR SOMEBODY CAME INTO YOUR PROGRAM WITH NO INCOME, AND THEN AS THEY'RE LEAVING, THEY HAVE NO. 
          SO IF THEY'RE COMING INTO A PSH PROGRAM, THEY'VE BEEN CHRONICALLY HOMELESS, YOU SHOULD BE LINKING THEM WITH SOME SORT OF A, SOMEBODY NOT EXITING, NOT HAVING ANY FINANCIAL RESOURCES AS THEY EXIT. 
          AND A PSH PROJECT IS A FAIL. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, MOST OF, MOST OF THE PROVIDERS ARE AT ZERO. 
          SO WE SET A STANDARD OF LESS THAN 5% OF PEOPLE WE'D EXPECT TO HAVE NO FINANCIAL RESOURCES AT EXIT. 
          WE UNDERSTAND SOMETHING MAY HAPPEN. 
          UH, I'VE HAD SOME PERIOD OF TIME AND THERE MIGHT BE SOME SORT OF, UM, THIS IS, UH, EACH YEAR WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, WE KNOW THAT SOME OF OUR PRODUCTS ARE SMALLER AND THEY MIGHT HAVE ONE BAD YEAR. 
          SO ONE THING THAT WE IMPLEMENTED A FEW YEARS AGO IS WE DO NOW BALANCE THIS LOOKING OVER A THREE YEAR PERIOD. 
          UH, SO THE FIRST YEAR IS WEIGHTED THE MOST HAPPY, SO I THINK IT'S 60 30 10. 
          SO THIS YEAR IN YOUR OUTCOMES WILL BE WEIGHTED AT 60% LAST YEAR'S X UH, OUTCOMES FOR OUR PROJECT WILL BE WEIGHTED AT 30%. 
          AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED THREE YEARS AGO WILL BE WEIGHTED AT 10% THAT WAY, HEY, WE SEE THAT YOU PERFORMED WELL IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. 
          HOWEVER, SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE A SMALLER PROJECT, ONE EXIT COULD ACTUALLY HAVE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT VERSUS A LARGER PROJECT THAT'S SERVING 60 PEOPLE, ONE NEGATIVE X, IT'S NOT GONNA IMPACT YOU, BUT YOU'RE A PROJECT WITH, YOU KNOW, 15 PEOPLE, ONE EXIT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ABOVE THAT FACTORS. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE TRY TO WEIGH IN SOME OF THE PREVIOUS YEARS TO LOOK AT HISTORICAL PERFORMANCE. 
          UM, 
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RAPID REHOUSING. 
          AGAIN, SIMILAR, SIMILAR TARGET AREAS. 
          UH, SOME OF THE MAIN DIFFERENCES, UM, THE OCCUPANCY RATE. 
          AND WE DO NOT HAVE LIKE BED MAINTENANCE ON HERE BECAUSE THE RAPID HOUSING PROGRAM, YOU DON'T OPEN ANY ACCESS CONTROL. 
          THE BEDS, THEY ARE, YOU HAVE, UM, SCATTERED SITES THAT, UH, THE, UH, THE PROGRAM IS HELPING RENT, PAY, RENT TO. 
          UH, SO OUR AVERAGE OCCUPANCY, WE EXPECT A GOOD PROGRAM WILL HAVE 75% OF THEIR TARGET, NUMBER OF E TO BE SERVED ENROLLED ON AVERAGE THROUGHOUT. 
          AND THAT'S KIND OF AN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT WE SEE. 
          THERE IS ONE AREA THAT WE DO HAVE CONCERN WITH, UM, AND IN SOME POINTS WE SEE OVER ENROLLMENT, WHICH INDICATES A COUPLE POTENTIAL THINGS. 
          A THERE ARE NOT, NOT PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, IN-DEPTH SERVICES TO PEOPLE AND YOU'RE JUST PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE MONTHS OF RENT. 
          IF YOU SAID I'M GONNA SERVE A HUNDRED PEOPLE AND OVER THE YEAR YOU SEARCH 300 PEOPLE OR 300 HOUSEHOLDS, MY BAD, I SHOULD USE THE SAME TERMINOLOGY. 
          YOU SEARCH 300 HOUSEHOLDS. 
          HOW DID YOU DO THAT? IS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU BLENDED IN OTHER STUFF? IS IT, IS IT YOU, YOU KNOW, ONLY SEARCH PEOPLE FOR TWO MONTHS INSTEAD OF HISTORICALLY YOU'D PLAN TO SERVE THEM FOR SIX MONTHS. 
          THOSE ARE CONCERNS. 
          SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE FLAGGING. 
          WE DON'T WANT YOU SERVING 250% PLUS OF YOUR TARGET. 
          HE SAID, I WANNA SERVE A HUNDRED PEOPLE. 
          WE WANT YOU TO BE IN A REASONABLE RANGE. 
          UM, SO THAT'S WHY WE DO SAY, HEY, IF YOU START SERVING MORE THAN THAT, WE DO HAVE CONCERN THE QUALITY OF THE SERVICE THAT OUR PROGRAM. 
          UM, AGAIN, , THERE AREN'T TOO MANY MAJOR DIFFERENCES. 
          SUCCESS LOOKS A LITTLE BIT LOWER FOR DSH AS FAR AS, UM, THE EXITS TO PERMANENT HOUSING. 
          NOW THE MARKET'S A LITTLE BIT TOUGHER. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THAT LONG-TERM SUBSIDY. 
          HOWEVER, WE ARE SEEING, AGAIN, THIS IS BASED ON THE MEAN OF OUR RAPID REHOUSING PROVIDERS. 
          UM, SO, UH, WE DO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE, WE DO HAVE A LITTLE MORE OF A BUFFER ON OUR EXITS TO UNKNOWN FOR RAPID REHOUSING. 
          UH, AND AGAIN, LET'S LOOKING AT DATA, UNDERSTANDING SOME OF THE PRACTICES. 
          YOU MAY ENROLL SOMEBODY, THEY DON'T EVER GET INTO HOUSING AND THEY DISAPPEAR. 
          THAT COULD HAPPEN. 
          AND YOU KNOW, WE WOULD EXPECT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN REGULARLY, BUT YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO DIG SOMEBODY BECAUSE THAT HAPPENED ONE OR TWO TIMES. 
          IT'S HAPPENING A LOT OF TIMES. 
          AND YOU'RE ABOVE THAT 5%. 
          WE WOULD SAY THAT'S NOT SUCCESSFUL OR NEAR SUCCESSFUL, UH, TRANSITIONAL HOUSING. 
          A ONE THING THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED TO INCORPORATE THIS YEAR WITHIN OUR SCORING BASED ON CONVERSATION AT LAST YEAR'S RETREAT AND THE PRIORITIZATION OF PERMANENT HOUSING RESOURCES, WE HAVE LOWERED THE SCORING, UH, THRESHOLD FOR TRANSITIONAL HOUSING. 
          SO IF YOU REFLECT ON THE ACTUAL, UH, POLICY, A TRANSITIONAL HOUSING PROJECT SMACKED POINTS IS NOW 15 POINTS LOWER THAN OUR PERMANENT HOUSING PROJECTS. 
          AND THAT'S JUST, AGAIN, AROUND IZATION OUR RESOURCES WITHIN OUR, OUR RANKING. 
          WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE SUCH A GAP THAT IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, TRANSITIONAL HOUSING IS AUTOMATICALLY GONNA BE ON THE BOTTOM, BUT IF WE'RE PERMANENT PRIORITIZING PERMANENT HOUSING, THIS WAS THE WAY OF SHOWING LIKE, HEY, WE DO HAVE A PREFERENCE AND WE SHOULD HAVE MORE POTENTIAL POINTS FOR PERMANENT HOUSING . 
          UM, AGAIN, THESE ARE THE SAME SIMILAR METRICS. 
          UH, NOTHING TOO DIFFERENT. 
          SO I'M GONNA SKIP FORWARD TO SERVICES ONLY. 
          AND AGAIN, THIS WILL BE A BASELINE SET IN YEAR. 
          THIS WILL BE THE FIRST TIME, UH, WE SCORE AND PUBLISH AT SSO PROJECTS. 
          UM, WHICH THERE ARE JUST A FEW. 
          THERE IS THE MSC ONE, UH, AND THEN THERE ARE A FEW WITHIN THE, UM, WITH THE UNSHELTERED NOFO, UH, PROJECTS THAT APPEAR TO BE AVAILABLE FOR RENEWAL IN THIS YEAR'S COMPETITION. 
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UH, SO THOSE WILL ALSO BE GETTING SCORE AS WELL. 
          UH, SO THE NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS TO BE SERVED IS SIMILAR. 
          UH, THE RATE THAT PROGRAMS PERFORM ARE FULL. 
          SO THE EXPECTATION OF OUR COORDINATED ENTRY SYSTEM SAY OKAY, UH, TO OTHER PLACES. 
          UM, SO THIS IS LOOKING AT HOUSEHOLDS WITH FEWER, MORE SERVICES, UH, THAT THEY HAVE AT LEAST ONE REFERRAL. 
          AND THIS IS DIVIDED BY THE NUMBER OR THIS, THE DENOMINATOR ON THIS IS THE NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS WITH TWO OR MORE SERVICES. 
          SO WE EXPECT THAT AT LEAST 50% OF PEOPLE ARE HOUSEHOLD SERVED BY AN SSO THAT RECEIVE MORE. 
          TWO OR MORE SERVICES RECEIVE AT LEAST ONE REFERRAL DOCUMENTED IN THE SYSTEM. 
          UH, THE RATE OF SERVICE PROVISION, SO THIS IS THE NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS WITH TWO OR MORE SERVICES PER ENROLL VERSUS THE NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS, UH, TOTAL NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS ENROLLED. 
          SO THERE IS A LOT OF MOVEMENT THROUGH OUR SYSTEM. 
          THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WE ONLY EVER SEE ONE AT TIME. 
          OUR GOAL IS TO, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WE ONLY SEE ONE TIME EVER. 
          UH, SO OUR GOAL IS WITHIN THIS, AND AGAIN, THIS IS KIND OF A NEW MEASUREMENT, WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES, UH, THAT OUR SUCCESS WOULD BE THAT AT LEAST 70% OF PEOPLE THAT WE SEE WITHIN, UH, OUR SSO PROJECTS HAVE TO SERVICES. 
          SO WE DON'T WANT TO SEE, YOU KNOW, 50% OF THE PEOPLE ONLY EVER WE ALMOST EVER SEE ONE TIME OR ENGAGED OR DONE ONE TIME. 
          UH, THE NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS IN NORTH WORLD AND COORDINATED ENTRY SYSTEM. 
          UH, SO AGAIN, THIS IS LOOKING AT NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS WITH AT LEAST TWO SERVICES. 
          UH, WHAT PERCENTAGE THE NUMBER THAT ARE, UH, ENROLLED IN COORDINATED ENTRY SYSTEM VERSUS THE NON 12 NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS WITH TWO OR MORE SERVICES BEGIN WITH SOMEWHAT NEW. 
          OUR HOPE IS AT AT LEAST 25% OF PEOPLE END UP IN COORDINATED ENTRY. 
          UH, THIS MAY, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS IS BASELINE SETTING. 
          HOPEFULLY IT'S A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE BASELINE WE WANNA SEE AT LEAST 25% OF PEOPLE ARE ENTERED INTO COORDINATED ENTRY. 
          UM, AGAIN, THERE IS A FAIR AMOUNT OF MOVEMENT AND THEN THE NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS EXITING TO PERMANENT HOUSING DESTINATIONS. 
          AGAIN, THIS IS A SUPPORTIVE SERVICES ONLY. 
          SO THIS ARE ACCESS AND OUTREACH PROGRAMS, UH, THAT AT LEAST 10% OF THE PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE ENGAGING WITH, UM, ARE EVENTUALLY GETTING INTO PERMANENT HOUSING. 
          NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS EXITING TO SHELTERED SITUATIONS THAT AT LEAST 20% OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ENGAGED BY OUR SSOS ARE GETTING TO SHELTER OF SOME SORT. 
          AND THEN THE NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS EXITING TO UNKNOWN DESTINATIONS. 
          AGAIN, THIS, UH, WILL GET INTO PEOPLE THAT, UM, HAVE TWO OR MORE SERVICES. 
          IF WE ONLY SAW YOU ONE TIME, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU WENT, UM, , BUT THAT WE HAVE LESS THAN 20% OF PEOPLE WITH TWO OR MORE SERVICES EXITING TO THEM. 
          YES. 
          UH, PLANNED UPDATES FORWARD, UH, NEXT YEAR. 
          UM, SO, UH, ONE THING THAT IS COMING UP, UH, AND CAME UP AS WITHIN OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY AUDITOR IS WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT OF 25% OF A MATCH ALL OF OUR HEALTHCARE PROGRESS. 
          SO THAT MEANS IF YOU KNOW YOU'RE APPLYING FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, THE HUNDRED EXPECTS THAT YOU HAVE AT LEAST MATCH WITH 25,000. 
          AND WE TRACK TO ENSURE THAT YOU MAKE THAT 25% MATCH. 
          HOWEVER, WE HAVE SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE MATCHING MUCH MORE THAN 25%, HOWEVER, THAT HAS NOT BEEN, UH, HISTORICALLY FACTORED IN. 
          WELL, AS WE LOOK AT PERFORMANCE. 
          SO SAY, YOU KNOW, I MATCHED, YOU KNOW, 25% AND HAD DIFFERENT PROVIDER MATCHED 200%. 
          WELL, I WOULD EXPECT THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR PORTION OF MONEY IS GETTING SIMILAR OUTCOMES. 
          HOWEVER, IF I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE OVERALL POT, YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT A THIRD OF THE FUNDS AS THE OTHER ONE THAT GOT A 200% MATCH. 
          SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE OUTCOMES PROPORTIONAL TO OUR INVESTMENT AS A COC AND ARE THEY UTILIZING 
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OUR REFLECTING? SO THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING INTO OUR CONTRACTS, UH, AS FAR AS TRACKING REPORTING OF MATCHING, UH, AS A WHOLE TO HAVE BETTER CONFIDENCE THAT WHEN WE COME AROUND  NEXT YEAR, UH, THAT THAT MATCH IS BETTER INCORPORATED INTO ARE WE TRULY JUDGING YOURS, APPLES TO APPLES ONE PROJECT TO ONE ANOTHER PROJECT. 
          UH, THEN WE, WE IDENTIFIED IT ON HERE. 
          WE ARE NOT SCORING THAT WITHIN, UM, OUR PERFORMANCE RIGHT NOW. 
          SO WE TAKE IT IN ACCOUNT FOR OCCUPANCY. 
          UM, BUT WE HAVE NOT ACTUALLY SCORED THE, IF YOU HAD MORE THAN 95% OF YOUR, YOUR TRANSITIONAL HEAD HOUSING BEDS OFFLINE, UM, SO SAY YOU HAD, YOU KNOW, 85% OF YOUR BEDS AVAILABLE FOR AN EVEN POINT FOR YOUR TRANSITIONAL HOUSING PROJECT. 
          RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE NO SCORING FOR THAT. 
          WE'RE JUST ADJUSTING THE OCCUPANCY RATE BASED ON AVAILABILITY. 
          UH, BUT WE WILL START TO SCORE THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE YOUR BETS, UH, AND UNITS CONSISTENTLY AVAILABLE TO PROPER. 
          AND THEN LOOKING AT REFINEMENT FOR SSOS, AGAIN, THIS BEING THE FIRST TIME WE WERE SCORING THEM AND PUBLICIZING IT, UH, WE WILL CONTINUE TO REFINE THAT, UH, WITH THE GOAL OF EVENTUALLY RANKING THOSE IN COMPARISON TO OTHER PROJECTS. 
          UM, AND THEN AGAIN, POTENTIAL FOR CHANGES FROM FEDERAL POLICIES. 
          WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO. 
          SO LIKE WE MAY HAVE TO CHANGE SOME OF OUR RANKING AGAINST FOR, BASED UPON THEIR POLICIES, THERE IS ONE THAT YOU WILL SEE WITHIN THE DOCUMENT. 
          UH, SECTION FIVE OF EACH OF THEM, UH, USED TO BE RACIAL EQUITY. 
          WE HAVE CHANGED THE LANGUAGE ON THAT BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THE EXECUTIVE ORDERS, UH, AND LANGUAGE THAT NOT BEING UTILIZED. 
          UH, THERE IS NO PLACEMENT LANGUAGE THAT LIKE SPEAKS EXACTLY THE EQUITY WE HAVE CHOSEN SERVING LONG BEACH, UH, WITH NEUTRALITY. 
          AND THE WAY THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT IS A, FOR THE UNDER FIRE DEMOGRAPHICS, ARE YOU SERVING PROPORTIONAL BASED UPON WHAT WE SEE IN THE ? SO IF WE SEE THAT 30% OF THE PEOPLE  IN LONG BEACH ARE BLACK, ARE YOU SERVING THOSE PROPORTIONAL, UH, BE RULE IN COMPARISON? ARE THEY OUTCOMES PROPORTIONAL? AND SO IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, CAN WE SEE THAT POTENTIALLY YOU'RE DISCRIMINATING ON AGAINST, YOU KNOW, VULNERABLE, UH, OR HISTORICALLY MARGINALIZED POPULATIONS. 
          UM, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS A SLIGHT BIT OF A CHANGE. 
          IT DOES ALSO IS NOT EXACTLY THE SAME AS HOW WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, BUT IT'S A CLOSE PROXY TO HAVING SOMETHING THAT LIKE, THAT ISN'T GONNA, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY BEING A SURGE NOT FUND. 
          RIGHT? UM, THE LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT. 
          UH, SO THAT WAS OUR SYSTEM PERFORMANCE MEASURES. 
          THAT IS THE SCORING AND RANKING. 
          UH, WE HAVE TRIED TO CREATE A BETTER METHODOLOGY SECTION WITHIN THE POLICY AS WELL THAT REALLY WALKS THROUGH, HERE'S HOW WE ARE, UH, GETTING TO SCORING IN EACH OF THESE. 
          THAT WAY IF SOMEBODY HAS A QUESTION, IT IS CONSISTENT. 
          UH, SO HOPEFULLY THE DOCUMENT IS A LITTLE MORE USER FRIENDLY THAN IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST AS A POLICY GROUP. 
          ANY QUESTIONS OF ANYBODY ELSE? AND AGAIN, DEPENDING ON IF I RELEASE OF SOMETHING WILD FOR LIKE Z, HAVE TO COME BACK. 
          EVEN IF WE APPROVE TODAY, UM, THESE ARE IN ALIGNMENT, LIKE THIS FEEL RATIONAL ON THOSE SENSES TO WHAT WE'D EXPECT, BUT, UH, THINGS COULD CHANGE. 
          QUESTION, UM, NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT THIS. 
          I APPRECIATE ALL OF THESE, LIKE, ESPECIALLY LIKE THE FISCAL PERFORMANCE. 
          I SEE THERE'S A-H-M-I-S, UM, PART, SO THEY GET SUPPORTED ON THAT. 
          JUST AN INCENTIVE. 
          UM, LAST YEAR I SAT ON A, LIKE A REVIEW OF THE RFP PROPOSALS, KIND OF USING A, 
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A A, A METRIC LIKE THIS OR LIKE A RUBRIC LIKE THIS. 
          AND I FOUND THAT THE CONVERSATION TENDED TO GET INTO LIKE THEIR PAST PERFORMANCE AND KEPT HAVING TO STEER AWAY FROM THAT BECAUSE IT WASN'T ON THE RUBRIC. 
          AND I WAS LIKE, WELL, WHY DON'T WE JUST HAVE A RUBRIC THAT WE CAN JUDGE BASED ON PAST PERFORMANCE? SO MY QUESTION IS, IS THIS GOING TO BE FOR, UM, SCORING PROPOSALS AS WELL? AND IF NOT, I RECOMMENDING? YEAH, I THINK THE DIFFICULT PART WITHIN LIKE PROPOSALS FOR NEW PROJECTS OR EXTENDING PROJECTS. 
          YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK AS IF, YOU KNOW, IT COMES OUT, IT'S A SHORT WINDOW AND YOU KNOW, IT IS, HEY, WE'RE ACCEPTING PROPOSALS FOR EXPANSION OF EXISTING PROJECTS, THEN THIS IS DEFINITELY GONNA BE USED. 
          LIKE WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE SAY, I WANT TO EXPAND HER, IS GOING TO GO TOWARDS PRO, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT THAT HAS THE HIGHEST SCORE. 
          UM, SO IN THAT SENSE IT MAKES SENSE. 
          THE HARD PART IS WHEN WE SAY AND WE HAVE THE TIME FOR DUE PROPOSALS, IT, WE FACTORED IN PAST PERFORMANCE FOR THE COC, IT KIND OF LOCKS OUT PEOPLE THAT HAVEN'T BEEN A COC PROVIDER MM-HMM . 
          FOR, FROM PROPOSING AND BRINGING IN LIKE A NEW NONPROFIT TO PROVIDE SERVICES THROUGH THE COC. 
          SO THERE, THERE'S EVEN LIES THE DIFFICULT PART. 
          LIKE I THINK PERFORMANCE IS IMPORTANT AND LIKE IT SHOULD BE FACTORED IN IN SOME CAPACITY, BUT IT ALSO CAN BECOME A BARRIER FOR, FOR NEW AGENCIES BECOMING ABLE TO GET CONTRACTS. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE DON'T USE IT AS MUCH FOR, FOR NEW PROJECT PROPOSALS. 
          GREAT JOB ON THIS. 
          OH, THANK YOU PAUL. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS TO VOTE? ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR EXCEPT OPPOSED PRESENTATION. 
          ANYBODY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSED. 
          I, SO, AND WORKING TO GET THROUGH ALL THE OTHER STUFF, UH, WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE. 
          UM, SO WE'LL BRING THAT BACK, YOU KNOW, SHORTLY HERE. 
          SO IT WILL BE A IMPORTANT THING WITHIN THE COMPETITION AND DECIDING, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S ALL GOING TO ALSO SOME OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AROUND OUR REALLOCATION POLICY FOR THIS YEAR ARE GOING TO COME DOWN TO WHAT'S OUR TIMEFRAME. 
          UM, I THINK AN AGGRESSIVE REALLOCATION POLICY, IF IT'S A THREE WEEK WINDOW, COULD LEAD TO US, YOU KNOW, LOSING FUNDING AS A COC WHERE WE HAVE A LONGER WINDOW AND THERE IS STABILITY FOR PROVIDERS TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, EXPANSION AS WELL AS NEW PROJECTS. 
          THEN IT HARBOR BREADTH OF REALLOCATION OF POLICY MIGHT MAKE SENSE. 
          UM, SO WE'RE STILL SOMEWHAT MULLING WHAT MAKES THE BEST SENSE TO THE MOMENT AS FAR AS REALLOCATION. 
          THERE'S ALSO, AGAIN, THE TRANSFERS, UM, PRETTY DRASTIC CHANGES FROM TYPE POLICIES WITHIN THE NOFO. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S WHY WE KIND OF WORKED ON OTHER STUFF BEFORE THIS ONE. 
          UM, AND WE JUST HAVE A FIGHT MENT, SO THEY'LL BRINGING US BACK. 
          UH, AND THEN HERE . 
          SO DO WE NEED TO VOTE? AGREE, REVISIT THIS SINCE ON THE EXHIBIT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO PUSH US BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING? A SECOND. 
          ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC VOTE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PUSHING THIS MOTION ACT. 
          ANY OPPOSING MOTION PASSES TO TAKE OUR ITEM NUMBER ONE AND SET IT FOR ANOTHER MEETING? LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO GET TO CONDUCTED DISCUSSION ON THE LONG BEACH CLC  UPDATES. 
          UM, SO THIS IS GONNA BE KIND OF A QUICK REFRESHER AND THEN WE'LL KIND OF HOPEFULLY LEAVE IT UP THE WE'LL SCHEDULE BETWEEN THE BOARD FOUNDERS. 
          SO, UH, FOR THOSE WHO'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, UH, FOR, I WOULD SAY ABOUT 
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A YEAR AND A HALF OR MORE, THIS DOCUMENT MAY BE FAMILIAR DURING BOARD AND THEN I WALK THROUGH. 
          BUT, UH, IN 2023, UH, RIGG WHO THEIR CFC VISOR AT BORDER AT THE TIME HAD WORKED WITH MORE AT 23 BORDER TREAT TO ESTABLISH BOARD COMPLIANCE. 
          UM, UH, THE ITEMS ON THE LEFT WERE THE ITEMS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AS SORT OF FALL TO THE PRIORITIES FOR, FOR THE COC BOARD, UH, AND  EXPERIENCE, PARTICIPATION, PERFORMANCE MONITORING, SYSTEM MAPPING, STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES. 
          UM, I THINK THERE IS CONTRACTING GRANT MANAGEMENT, PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT EQUITY, THINGS LIKE THAT, FURTHER DOWN THOSE PLANS. 
          UM, AND THEN ON THE RIGHT YOU CAN SEE, UH, SORT OF A TIMELINE TO IMPLEMENT PLUS WHO OWNED IT. 
          AND OWNERSHIP ALSO INCLUDED SUBCOMMITTEES AND THOSE SUBCOMMITTEES, UH, A NUMBER OF 'EM DON'T EXIST ANYMORE. 
          'CAUSE THE, UM, ABOUT A YEAR AFTER THE STUDENT PLAN WAS IMPLEMENTED, THE BOARD VOTED  SUBCOMMITTEES. 
          THOSE SUBCOMMITTEES HAVEN'T MET. 
          I THINK THE LAST MEETING OR PRESENTATION WE HAD SPECIFICALLY ABOUT BOARD PLAN WAS APRIL AND APRIL FOUR. 
          UM, SINCE THEN, UH, THE CITY HAS SORT OF CONTINUED ITS OWN HOMELESSNESS STRATEGIC PLANNING. 
          UM, SO THE MANAGER'S OFFICE, UM, RELEASED RFP FOR, UH, SORT OF PHASE TWO, THE FEATURE PLAN. 
          WE SHOULD HAVE A CONSULTANT ON BOARD WITH US SOMETIME SOON. 
          UM, THE CITY ALSO, I THINK IN REVIEW, PARTICIPATED IN THE, THE HOME ROAD SHOW. 
          THAT HOME ROAD SHOW PROCESS IS ALSO A PART OF THE SORT OF CYCLE PHASE FINDING. 
          UM, SO ALL THAT CONTEXT, UH, AND AND  CONVERSATION FOR THIS BOARD, UM, ABOUT THE 2023 STRATEGIC PLAN ITEMS, WHETHER THIS ALL STILL RESONATES, DO THEY RESONATE AS ITEMS THAT YOU WANT TO CONTINUE WORKING ON? AND IF SO, HOW SHOULD WE DELEGATE, UH, OWNERSHIP OF THESE GIVEN THAT THERE'S BEEN SUBCOMMITTEE CHANGES, THERE'S BEEN BOARD CHANGES, ALL OF THAT. 
          UM, WE HAVE THE GENERAL MEMBERSHIP MEETING COMING UP IN OCTOBER, SO WE CAN TRY TO DO A MORE FORMAL REFRESHER OF, UH, WHERE WE LEFT OFF. 
          UM, COULD ALSO BE OPPORTUNITY TO REENGAGE WITH THE NEW SUB, UH, IDENTIFY SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS, FORMALIZE SUBCOMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS. 
          AND THEN WE COULD VERY WELL KEEP THESE SAME STRATEGY, THE SAME POLICY AND PRIORITIES AND NOT THE NEW COMMITTEES THEN FROM THE OWNERS. 
          OR WE CAN TAKE DIFFERENT APPROACH. 
          UM, AND UH, SO REALLY IT'S MEANT TO BE CONVERSATIONAL DIALOGUE BETWEEN BOARD MEMBERS TO KIND OF GET A, A SENSE FROM EVERYONE'S, UM, SORT OF TEMPERATURE CHECK ON ON THESE ITEMS. WHETHER, WHETHER WE, UH, WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE WITH THESE, GIVEN THAT IT'S BEEN ON PAUSE FOR SOME TIME, OR WE WANT TO TAKE FOR SORT OF A AIR LARGER SCALE. 
          LIKE, SO WE'LL PAUSE THAT FOR FEEDBACK. 
          YOU  I CAN, WE CAN SCROLL THROUGH IF YOU WANNA SEE THE REST OF THE ITEMS JUST TO CONFIRM WHAT IS ALL INCLUDED. 
          SO, UH, PROCUREMENT DATA COLLECTION, CES, UM, YOU KNOW, I CAN TELL YOU, UH, PERFORMANCE MONITORING AND PROCUREMENTS, UH, INTERNALLY WITHIN HOMELESS SERVICES, WE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF CHANGES ON THOSE ITEMS. UM, WE NOW, FROM THE TIME THAT THIS WAS RELEASED, WE HAVE DEDICATED, UH, CLIENTS TEAMS AND PROCUREMENT TEAMS. PREVIOUSLY, THOSE FOLKS SHOULD HAVE BEEN STRATIFIED ACROSS, UH, DIFFERENT STAFF, UM, CARRYING SORT OF LIKE WEARING MULTIPLE HATS, HAVING MULTIPLE DUTIES. 
          UM, SO NOW WE ACTUALLY HAVE DEDICATED STAFF TO FOCUS ON THOSE, THOSE ITEMS. UM, STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES. 
          THERE HAS BEEN A FAIR AMOUNT OF POLICY AND GUIDANCE THAT THE BOARD'S ADOPTED OVER THE, THE PAST YEAR OR SO. 
          I THINK ONE THING THAT WE'LL PROBABLY STILL WANT TO WORK TOWARDS UPDATES FOR THAT COULD SPEAK TO THE STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES IS UPDATES TO OUR CS POLICY MANUAL. 
          SO THE STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES. 
          THEN CS DOWN BELOW, WE COULD WORK TOWARDS, UM, BOTH OF THOSE SORT OF SIMULTANEOUSLY. 
          OUR CS POLICY MANUAL I THINK HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED SINCE 2023, SO ABOUT TWO YEARS, UH, SINCE THERE HAVE BEEN, UH, FORMAL UPDATES TO THAT INCREASED DATA. 
          WE JUST WALKED THROUGH THE DATA QUALITY PLAN. 
          SO I THINK THERE ARE PROMOTIONS THERE TO HELP WITH, UM, ENSURING WE'RE EXECUTING THAT ITEM. 
          BUT, UH, AND THEN SYSTEM MAPPING, UH, I THINK THE HOMELESS SERVICE SYSTEM IS GETTING MORE COMPLEX RIGHT NOW RATHER THAN, UH, RATHER THAT NOT RATHER GETTING MORE, UH, STREAMLINED AND UH, AND ALL THAT. 
          BUT, UM, YEAH. 
          SO HERE IS GENERALLY THE, THE, THE, THE POLICY PRIORITIES THAT WERE, WERE DONE ABOUT. 
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YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          TE OKAY. 
          SO CAN WE PLEASE GET A MOTION TO GO AND ACCEPT THE VISITATION FROM EACH MOTION? YES. 
          AND THEN THERE'S ANY QUESTION. 
          SORRY, WHO WAS THIS? JAMIE? YES. 
          AND SEC. 
          SURE. 
          DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE BOARD? WOULD YOU HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, THAT WAS, SORRY I DELAY. 
          I'M JUST CURIOUS. 
          THE SUBCOMMITTEES VERY CHALLENGING PART. 
          US TRYING TO, WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE TIMEFRAME FOR IT. 
          SO I'M NOT, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA, BUT IT'S MATTER. 
          HOW DO WE MANAGE THAT AND HOW GRATEFUL YOU SUPPOSED TO BE WITH THE TIME IT'S DURING THE DAY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THESE MEETINGS HAVE VERY DIFFICULT OR TO MYSELF TO BE ABLE . 
          EXACTLY. 
          UM, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          I THINK RIGHT NOW THE WAY THE CHARTER WAS WRITTEN WAS THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEES SHOULD, SHOULD MEET AT LEAST EARLY. 
          UM, I, I WOULD SUSPECT, UH, THAT, UH, THE, THAT, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S, IT MAY BE CHALLENGING FOR THE SUBJECT MEMBERS TO DEVELOP BUNCH OF POLICIES RELATED TO EACH OF THOSE THINGS AND THEN DO THAT ON, ON A QUARTERLY BASIS. 
          SO, UM, IT COULD BE A CONVERSATION, UH, AROUND THE SUBCOMMITTEES IDENTIFYING  FOR THE POLICY  ARE OR OUGHT TO BE. 
          AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, IN THE CHARTER UPDATES PRESENTED EARLIER, HADN'T BEEN VOTED FOR ADOPTION YET FOR ARTICULATE THERE, BUT RIGHT THERE THAT, UH, STAFF WILL BE THE ONES, UH, THE PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY FOR DRAFTING POLICY. 
          SO, SO MANY THE MEMBERS COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT, BASICALLY THOSE FACTORS OR WHATEVER. 
          UM, WE REALLY THINK THAT, UH, THERE'S A GAP IN STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES. 
          SO, UH, THE, THE SUBCOMMITTEE IS GOING TO IDENTIFY SOME STANDARD FILES THAT WE THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL AND THEN STAFF CAN WE, YOU KNOW, WORK TO RECOMMEND, YOU KNOW, POLICIES AROUND THAT. 
          AND THEN IT COULD BE THROUGH THE, UH, ITERATIVE FEEDBACK LOOP BETWEEN THE MEMBERS AND, AND STAFF PRESENTING, UH, WORKING WITH THE POLICY. 
          THINKING BACK TO THE BROWN ACT AND ROBERT'S RULES IS THE SUBCOMMITTEES PUBLIC? THEY'RE ALSO YEAH, ACCORDING TO CITY, CITY CHARTER AROUND UH, UH, ALL THE CITY, UH, COUNCIL SUBMISSIONS OR IMPLANT PEOPLE PLAY INTO MEETING OPTIONS. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, BROWN MEETING WITHIN THE CITY OR ATTEND MEETING THERE. 
          SOME MEETINGS, UM, PUBLISHED, YEAH. 
          OH, YOU, WE, AGENDA OPPORTUNITY, PUBLIC COMMENT, SOME MEETINGS. 
          IF YOU HAVE, WHAT IS THE OPTION IS IF THERE IS A TIME LIMITED, YOU KNOW, FOCUSED PRODUCT THAT YOU NEED TO CREATE, YOU CAN CREATE AN  AND THAT WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE BROWN ACTIVE. 
          IT COULD BE DONE OVER A VIRTUAL SPACE. 
          WOULD THEN HAVE TO COME BACK OBVIOUSLY FOR PUBLIC. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          DISCUSSION. 
          IT'S NOT LIKE ANYTHING THAT DEFENSE CREATED IS UNLOCKED, IS FINALIZED, BUT THAT IS THE OPTION OF LIKE, YOU'RE TRYING TO GET THROUGH SOMETHING THAT IS A TIME LIMITED SPECIFIC, THE AD HOC AND WORK GROUPS CAN BE, UM, HAVE A WORK AROUND, BUT THE, THE BOARD WOULD NEED TO MAKE A DETERMINATION THAT LIKE IN ORDER TO, YOU KNOW, UH, LET'S SAY FINALIZE SOMETHING RELATED TO ONE PLAN ITEMS WE OR A MOTION TWO, WE CREATE A WORK GROUP FOUR AND A HO OR WE DO WANT TO KNOW THAT FIRST CODE EXIST FOR WHAT THEIR ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES ARE. 
          WHAT'S THAT? YOU TIMELINE BEEN BETTER THAN THAT WORK GROUP? YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY THEY NO LONGER AND THOSE GROUPS COULD BE VIRTUAL 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA I TO PROVIDE MEETINGS. 
          YEAH. 
          MY THOUGHT WAS JUST, THERE'S TOO MANY OF THE STRATEGIC PLANNING GOALS, HONESTLY, BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF TIME WE ALL HAVE THE COMMITTEES AND ALL THAT, AND SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN ACCOMPLISHED. 
          IT'D BE GREAT TO JUST PUT THOSE ON. 
          WE DID IT, 
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WE DID IT IN THE LAST TWO YEARS. 
          BUT THAT WAS MY THOUGHT IS THAT WE HAVE NOW TRYING TO BRING BACK THE GENERAL MEETINGS, SOME OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES. 
          AND I WONDER IF THERE'S JUST A WAY TO, TO, TO MAKE THIS A WHOLE SEPARATE CONVERSATION WITH THE GENERAL MEMBERSHIP ABOUT LET'S PICK THREE PRIORITIES FOR THE YEAR OR THEIR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES AND WHICH COMMITTEE WOULD WORK ON, LIKE WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, LIKE EACH COMMITTEE MAYBE HAS ONE PRIORITY OR TWO. 
          UM, TO ME THAT FEELS BETTER THAN ALL OF US IN THIS ROOM DECIDING WITH PRIORITIES AND THEN HOPING PEOPLE WILL COME TO THE COMMITTEES TO WORK ON OUR PRIORITIES, FOR INSTANCE, THEIR PRIORITIES. 
          SO, YEAH. 
          AND, AND SO I'M THINKING THAT MAYBE WE GET, MAYBE WE GET THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU, YOU JUST SHARED IN PERSON HERE ABOUT LIKE WHAT HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED. 
          'CAUSE A LOT HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED AND THEN MAYBE WE, MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT TO THE GENERAL MEETING OR OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING ABOUT HOW ROLL OUT, BUT JUST, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY BENEFIT OF US JUST CONTINUING WITH THESE AS IS AND THEN TRYING TO ROLL, TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO, TO JOIN THE COMMITTEE AND DO THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT SUGGESTION. 
          OKAY, SO I, I WAS REVIEWING THE DOCUMENT THAT WAS SENT OUT AND IT WAS LIKE, OH MY GOD, THERE'S ALL OVER THE PLACE. 
          WHERE DO YOU START? SO WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO FOCUS BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'RE DISJOINTED. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO DO TOO MANY THINGS AND DON'T ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING. 
          SO I, I AGREE. 
          WERE WE READY TO VOTE? UM, DID WE HAVE A, DID SETTLE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CHAIR ADVICE, CHAIR REPORTS AND FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? SECOND? BOTH. 
          WE, I, YES. 
          SECOND. 
          ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND VOTE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? ANYONE VOTE. 
          MOTION PASSES ANY PUBLIC. 
          WELL, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC UNLESS OUR STAFF WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ANY, UM, ANNOUNCEMENT NOW IT'S MEETING WITH BURNS. 
          NEXT MEETING WILL BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER 7TH, UH, OCTOBER 3RD, THAT GENERAL OCTOBER 1ST. 
          UH.
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