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UH, CALL THE ORDER PLEASE, SIR.
UM, GOT A BRIEF CHAIR REPORT THIS MORNING.
UM, I WAS REMINDED BY, UH, UH, A FRIEND, UH, COMMISSIONERS THAT, THAT OCCASIONALLY, UM, I STEAM AHEAD, UH, SOMETIMES WITHOUT FULL CONSIDERATION FOR, UH, OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE HERE.
AND I'M ON A COUPLE BOARDS AS YOU ARE.
AND SOMETIMES YOU, YOU MOVE IN A DIRECTION THAT YOU THINK, UH, YOU WANT TO, YOU HOPE IS THE BEST INTEREST FOR EVERYBODY.
AND SOMETIMES I'M GONNA TELL YOU I APOLOGIZE AND I NEED TO BE REMINDED, UH, THAT THIS IS A COMMISSION AND IT'S A GROUP, AND YOU COMPLETE THINGS, UH, SPECIFICALLY IN THE DIRECTION OF, UH, A MEETING THAT I HAVE LATER TODAY WITH CITY MANAGER.
AND THIS IS A MEETING THAT I'VE BEEN ATTEMPTING TO GET FOR QUITE A WHILE.
UM, MOSTLY, NOT PARTLY, BUT MOSTLY WEARING A DIFFERENT HAT, UH, AS THE, UH, PRESIDENT OF THE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION, BUT RIGHT DOWN MAIN STREET FOR US.
SECOND STREET, MAIN STREET, OUR MAIN STREET.
THAT IS THE TOPIC, UH, WITH WHICH I'M TAKING, UH, TO CITY MANAGER TODAY.
AND I DO HAVE AN AGENDA, UH, THAT I WILL, UH, PUSH OVER TO EACH ONE OF YOU LATER, UH, THIS MORNING, UH, WHEN I'M ABLE, UH, SO THAT YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT, UH, WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS.
UH, I'M GONNA BE A, A LITTLE BIT FORWARD, UH, WITH IT, BECAUSE I'M ALSO GONNA PUSH THAT AGENDA TO THE POST, UH, AND TO, UM, WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE? UH, THE TRUMP PRESS OUT.
UH, NOT TO BE CHEEKY, UH, WITH THE CITY, BUT TO BE TRANSPARENT.
UH, AND I WANT THAT AGENDA TO GO TO, UH, THE PUBLIC, UH, THAT THE PUBLIC THAT COMES HERE TO THESE MEETINGS, THE PUBLIC THAT GOES TO BSP MEETING, THE PUBLIC THAT ASKS QUESTIONS.
THAT'S THE FRIENDS OF BELMONT SHORE MEETINGS THAT I GO TO, AND THE RESIDENTS ASSOCIATION MEETINGS.
WHEN I GO THERE, THE QUESTIONS ARE ALL THE SAME.
WHEN CAN WE HAVE, WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT, UH, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH? AND THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT I'M GONNA POSE TO CITY MANAGER TODAY IN HOPES THAT WE CAN COLLECTIVELY FIND SOME SOLUTIONS, UH, TO SOME OF THESE CHALLENGES THAT WE ALL HAVE.
AGAIN, MOSTLY QUALITY OF LIFE.
NOW, WHY AM I SAYING ALL THIS? I'M SAYING THIS 'CAUSE I DO APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING MORE, UH, INCLUSIVE OF THIS COMMISSION, UM, AND LETTING YOU KNOW WHAT, UH, MY PLAN WAS TO DO THAT.
UM, I, I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND IT'S A NOBLE, UH, IT'S A NOBLE DIRECTION.
UH, I HOPE IT'S A NOBLE DIRECTION.
UH, AND WE CAN ACTUALLY START, UH, UH, A DIALOGUE THAT, UH, IS REPLETE WITH SOMETHING MORE THAN JUST PLATITUDES AND THANK YOUS.
UH, WE CAN ACTUALLY DROP SOME THINGS IN THERE, ARE GONNA START TO GET SOME STUFF OUT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE, UH, THE RESIDENTS, UH, THE RESIDENTS, GROUPS, UH, STAKEHOLDERS, OPERATORS, UM, EMPLOYEES, VISITORS, UH, ARE ALL ASKING VERY TOUGH QUESTIONS.
AND, UH, WE GET SOME ANSWERS TO.
SO I APPRECIATE, UH, THE LATITUDE FOR THAT.
UM, IT IS A JOINT, UH, PARKING COMMISSION AND, UH, VSVA MEMBER.
UM, SO THAT'S THE, UH, CHAIR'S REPORT THIS MORNING.
AND WE HAVE, UH, A SPECIAL GUEST WITH US.
UH, KAREN, COME ON UP, PLEASE.
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HERE,SO, KAREN BLAIR WAS ON THE COMMISSION FOR, UH, YEARS AND YEARS, UH, AND VERY DUTIFULLY AND, UH, RESPECTFULLY AND, UH, INTELLIGENTLY, UM, HELPED CRAFT A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT CAME OUT OF THIS COMMISSION FOR A LONG TIME.
AND SHE TURNED OFF AND WE ALL GOT HERE ONE MEETING AND SHE'S, WHERE'S KAREN? AND WELL, WE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW THAT, THAT, UH, THAT WALL HAD BEEN PRESENTED TO US.
AND, AND, UH, I DON'T WANT IT TO GO ANY FURTHER WITHOUT THE COMMISSION AND THE CITY RECOGNIZING KAREN, FOR HER YEARS OF SELFLESS, UH, TIME AND ON THIS COMMISSION.
SO, IF YOU COULD PLEASE, WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM COUNCILWOMAN PRESENT YOU WITH PROCLAMATION.
AND JUST ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL MEMBER DUGGAN, FOR YOUR MANY YEARS OF SERVICE TO PATIENT AND AS A RESIDENT, YOUR PERSPECTIVES REALLY BROUGHT A LOT TO THE CONVERSATIONS SHE WANTS TO.
WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND THANK YOU TIME.
AND I HOPE CITY LISTENS TO YOUR MIND.
WE PASSED IN THE NIGHT ON THIS ONE, BEING ON THIS BOARD TOGETHER.
UM, MOVE TO THE, UH, REGULAR AGENDA.
UH, ITEM ONE, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES PARKING AND BUSINESS PRELIMINARY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING OF THURSDAY, AUGUST 21ST, 2025.
WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND ON THAT ITEM.
UH, ITEM HAVE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS YOU RECEIVE IN FILE LONG BEACH PUBLIC WORKS FINANCIAL REPORT, UH, DISCUSSING REVENUES DURING THE PERIOD ENDING AUGUST 31ST, 2025.
WHAT PAGE ARE WE GOING, SIR? IT'S GONNA BE ON PAGE EIGHT OF THE ATTACHMENT SHEET.
TITLE IS CALLED MONTOUR PARKING METER FUND SUMMARY.
WHERE DO YOU WANT TO START, SIR? UM, I'D LIKE TO START WITH AUGUST REVENUE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT AUGUST, 2025.
REVENUE WAS UP 15% COMPARED TO LAST FISCAL YEAR.
YEAR TO DATE, REVENUE IS UP 12% VERSUS LAST FISCAL YEAR, BRINGING THE CURRENT FUND BALANCE TO $623,749 AND 51 CENTS.
WE HAVE JUST COMPLETED MONTH 11 OF 12 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025.
WE ARE LOOKING AT OUR YEAR TO DATE, ACTUAL REVENUE BEING 1.2 MILLION, UM, ON TRACK TO MEET OUR ESTIMATED GOAL FOR THE END OF THE YEAR.
AT 1.3 MILLION WE HAVE FOR FY 2025, WE HAVE COMPLETED OUR DEBT SERVICE, MADE A PAYMENT.
WE HAVE A NEW PAYMENT IN OCTOBER OF 2025, AND THAT'S GONNA BE ANOTHER $200,000.
THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE, UH, SHOULD BE AWARE OF STARTING OCTOBER 1ST, WE'RE GONNA HAVE $200,000 TAKEN OUT.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEXT PAGE, PAGE NINE, MONTOUR PARKING AND BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT AREA ADVISORY COMMISSION, FY 2025 BUDGET.
WE ARE ESTIMATED TO HAVE ABOUT 1.3 IN REVENUE, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 1.4 IN EXPENSES, AND THAT'S 1.4 MILLION.
UM, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A PROJECTED REDUCTION IN OUR FUND TO BE ABOUT 229,568 AT THE END OF THIS YEAR.
UM, ALSO, KEEP IN MIND, OCTOBER 1ST IS ALSO
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THE FIRST PAYMENT, OR NOT FIRST PAYMENT, CONTINUED PAYMENT OF OUR DEBT SERVICE.SO THAT'S ANOTHER 200,000 THAT WILL BE GONE WHILE, UM, OUR FUND WILL, WILL DWINDLE.
WE'LL NEED THE NEXT FEW MONTHS TO KIND OF GET BACK UP INTO A HEALTHY AMOUNT FOR OUR FUND.
SO SOMETHING THAT COULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
SO THAT FEEDS INTO THE DISCUSSION.
UM, I GUESS IT'S AN ASK FIRST.
UM, HAS, ARE YOU AWARE THAT, UH, CITY COUNCIL HAS HEARD THE INCREASE? YES.
THE METER INCREASE HAS BEEN APPROVED STARTING OCTOBER 1ST, IT WILL BE $3 AN HOUR, UH, UP TO THREE HOURS.
AND SO STARTING OCTOBER 1ST, WE'LL HAVE THAT, WE'LL HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL REVENUE, WHICH WILL HELP RECOUP, UH, EXPENSES THAT HAVE, THAT WILL OCCUR FROM NOW THE END.
IF THE BALLOONS CAME DOWN OUT OF THE RAFTERS FOR THAT ONE
IT'S GOING TO CREATE AGAIN, UM, A SURPLUS SITUATION FOR US.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE CURRENT TRAJECTORY OF REVENUE, UH, ESPECIALLY THE INCREASE OF YEAR OVER YEAR, UH, WE ALSO ASKED, UH, AS A COMMISSION FOR THE CITY TO, UH, CONSIDER INCREASING HOURS FROM TWO MAX TO THREE, UM, WHICH I THINK IS GREAT FOR OPERATORS AND VISITORS.
UH, SO THAT'S A WIN-WIN, UM, THIS MORNING, WHICH IS GREAT NEWS.
UM, AND I, I, I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS LOOK TO, AT THE NEXT MEETING, UM, PROJECTING, UH, HOW WE CAN DIG INTO SOME OF THAT REVENUE.
UM, WE'RE NOT SPENDING IT NECESSARILY, BUT WE, I THINK WE SHOULD COME TOGETHER WITH A PLAN.
UM, AND THAT PLAN WOULD INCLUDE, UH, A MORE ROBUST LANDSCAPE, UH, PLAN FOR THE MEDIA.
UH, IT SHOULD, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL DISCUSS THIS CLEARLY.
UH, IT SHOULD INCLUDE, UH, UH, ADDITIONAL SECURITY HOURS, UH, ESPECIALLY AT THOSE LATE NIGHT, UH, HOURS, UH, SO THAT WE CAN MAYBE STACK THE PARKING LOTS.
AND ITEM FOUR ON TODAY'S AGENDA, UH, WE'LL DISCUSS THAT FURTHER.
UH, BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO PROJECT, UM, PARDON THE CRUDE LANGUAGE, HOW WE CAN GOBBLE UP THAT MONEY AND, AND USE IT EFFECTIVELY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE SAID WE NEEDED TO DO.
UM, THE SECURITY YOU CLEARLY SEE ON THE BUDGET, UM, IS ECLIPSING.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S A REAL NUMBER YET 'CAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN ENGAGED WITH THE COMPANY YET.
SO THAT'S CLEANING, NOT SECURITY.
SECURITY IS 237, 8 79, CLEANING 400.
SO THERE, THERE ARE, UH, THERE'S NOW A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO, UH, GET BACK ON SOLID FOOTING AND, UH, START MAKING SOME REAL IMPACTS ONCE AGAIN.
AND THE SECURITY IS GOING OUT FOR BENEFIT, RIGHT? SECURITY IS GONNA, YES.
THE SECURITY'S GONNA GO OUT FOR AN RFP.
WHEN DOES THAT HAPPEN, SIR? UH, IT'LL HAPPEN WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH.
IT'S CURRENTLY WITH THE PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT TO GET APPROVED.
UM, THEY, I HEARD FROM THEM ON TUESDAY SAYING THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVING FORWARD WITH IT.
THEY JUST NEED, UH, ONE OR TWO ADDITIONAL REVISIONS FROM ME, WHICH I WILL GET TO THEM BY THE END OF TODAY.
AND THEN THEY WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD IN SETTING A DATE FOR PEOPLE TO SUBMIT THEIR PROPOSALS.
AND I THINK THAT'S GREAT NEWS OUTTA CONTRACT.
WE, WE ARE MONTH TO MONTH, WE HAVE THE CURRENT SERVICES WE HAVE.
NOW, THE BENEFIT OF CSI IS THEIR, UH, FAMILIARITY WITH THE DISTRICT.
UH, THEY ARE VETTED WITH THE CITY.
THEY PROVIDE SERVICES IN OTHER, UH, AREAS AND FOR SPECIAL EVENTS.
NOT THAT A NEW COMPANY WOULDN'T BE VETTED, UH, THAT'S PART OF THE, THE REQUIREMENT, UH, BONDING INSURANCE AND THAT SORT OF THING.
UM, I, I THINK IT'S A REASONABLE EXPECTATION.
THE COSTS ARE GONNA GO UP, UH, BECAUSE THE SERVICES ARE WITH LABOR, COST GOES UP AND INSURANCE COST GOES UP.
BUT I THINK WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET A BETTER GRADE, UH, SECURITY PERHAPS, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE LATE NIGHT POCKETS IN THOSE PARKING LOTS WHERE WE'RE GONNA NEED, MAYBE INSTEAD OF A A CHOICE CUT, WE'RE GONNA NEED A PRIME CUT.
WE JUST NEED A BETTER, A BETTER CALIBER, A BETTER TRAINED, UH, SECURITY.
AND THAT'S GONNA END UP COSTING MORE MONEY.
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IS WE'RE AN AN HOUR FOR SECURITY CREW NUMBERS AGAIN.I KNOW WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IT LATER, BUT JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE ALSO NEED IT FOR THE MORNING BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY HOMELESS NOW IN THE, I MEAN, YEAH, THERE'S A LOT FOR SURE.
WELL, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S KEEP DISCUSSING, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TAKING TO
AND, AND I'LL, I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE PHILOSOPHY ON THAT BEFORE.
BUT, UH, THIS IS, I THINK THIS IS JUST, THIS IS A GREAT LITTLE BIT FOR, UH, THE DISTRICT TODAY TO HAVE THOSE INCREASE BECAUSE THAT'S SO USABLE.
THOSE FUNDS ARE SO USABLE IN THESE QUALITY OF LIFE PROJECTS.
NOW WE CAN FOCUS ON LANDSCAPING AND IRRIGATION AND, UH, WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE SIGN, UH, ANOTHER ITERATION OF THE SIGN.
UH, SO THERE'S, THERE'S, THIS IS JUST A, THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
SO JUST A QUICK QUESTION FOR RYAN.
DOES THE, UM, THE RATE INCREASE GO INTO EFFECT ON OCTOBER 1ST? YES.
AND HE ALWAYS THINKS THAT'S GOING TO BE, WHEN THEY START THE BIDDING PROCESS FOR THE PROGRAMMING OF THE CHANGE THAT TAKES ANOTHER THREE TO THREE MONTHS, THAT THEY, THEY, THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THE PROGRAMMING CHANGES THAT FAST.
WITHIN THE FIRST, IN THE FIRST FEW DAYS.
MY SKEPTIC HAS BEEN BATTED DOWN
I, I'M PLEASED ABOUT THE, THE INCREASE BECAUSE I THINK YOU, JUST LOOKING AT WHERE WE SEE THE PROJECTED DEBT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE THING WE SHOULDN'T BE OPERATING IN A DEFICIT BECAUSE OVER THAT TIMEFRAME IN THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS, IF WE DID NOTHING, WE WOULD BE AT ZERO PRETTY QUICKLY.
SO THAT, I THINK THAT'S A REAL POSITIVE.
AND WE DO WANT TO INCREASE SERVICE THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED.
AND IT, IT IS HITTING THAT TIPPING POINT.
WE WE'RE GETTING, YOU KNOW, LOTS OF FEEDBACK.
WE CAN SEE IT WITH OUR, YEAH, I'M, I'M, I'M OVER THE BOAT.
I COULD, I COULDN'T BE ANY, UM, QUESTION.
I AM VERY HAPPY THAT WE'RE KEEPING THE SECURITY AS A PRIORITY, UM, AND POSSIBLY INCREASING.
UM, I AGREE A HUNDRED PERCENT WITH JAN'S COMMENT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE MORNINGS BEING TO ME AS, AS IMPORTANT AS THE EVENINGS, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S FROM MY OWN PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE.
YOU KNOW, I, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S ISSUES THAT GO ON IN THE EVENINGS LONG AFTER, LIKE, MY BUSINESSES ARE GONE.
WHAT TIME IS YOUR BUSINESS OPEN? MORNING.
SO YOU HAVE, UH, EVERY, EVERY HOPE THAT, UH, YOUR CUSTOMERS CAN BE COMING AND GOING WITHOUT BEING CHALLENGED.
AND IT'S, IT'S A THING, IT IS A REGULAR THING BECAUSE I MEAN, WE OPEN AT FIVE AND THEY'RE LINING UP AT FOUR 30.
SO IT'S EARLY WHEN WE'RE HAVING INTERACTIONS WITH VARIOUS PEOPLE.
SO THAT, THAT'S ANOTHER WAY OF WIN.
BUT WE CAN ATTACK THAT AS WELL.
UM, AND TIED TO THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT KNOWING EXACTLY THE FULL AGENDA OF YOUR MEETING LATER TODAY WITH THE CITY MANAGER, UM, BUT I AM HOPING THAT, UM, A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE STRUGGLING TO BALANCE AND KEEP AFLOAT AND DEAL WITH, UM, ARE THINGS THAT ARE ON THAT AGENDA.
UM, 'CAUSE I, I STILL BELIEVE THAT THIS COMMISSION IS TRYING TO MANAGE A LION SHARE OF CITY, CITY GENERATED ISSUES OR CITY THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITIES IN, UH, SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE WE'RE PUTTING A BANDAID ON THE SKIN BE THAT COST.
UH, AND, AND THAT'S, YOU'RE RIGHT.
PART OF THE THE REALLY DELICATE BALANCE, THOUGH, IS ONCE AGAIN, UH, AS A REMINDER, WE'RE THE ONLY DISTRICT IN THE CITY THAT PERTAINS A HUNDRED PERCENT.
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I WAS TOLD AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF MY INVOLVEMENT, UH, THAT THIS IS SACROSANCT.UH, IT CAN'T BE, UH, UH, MANIPULATED.
UH, IT'S IN THE ORIGINAL CHARTER THAT GOES BACK TO, UM, EARLY SEVENTIES.
AND THERE'S LOTS AND LOTS OF REASONS FOR IT.
THERE'S TITLELESS REASONS, THERE'S OIL REASONS, THERE'S, UH, JUST LOTS OF REASONS.
THIS WAS ONE, THE FIRST DISTRICTS THAT HAD ANY KIND OF REVENUE DOWNTOWN SHARES THAT REVENUE, UH, 50 50, THEY HAVE BUDGET MAKES.
SO WE DON'T WANNA UPSET THAT DELICATE ECOSYSTEM.
UM, AND SO I GO WITH FULL RESPECT TO THAT MEETING BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THAT AS A CONSIDERATION.
AND THERE ARE OTHER DISTRICTS THAT, THAT DON'T GET THAT CONSIDERATION.
BUT THERE ARE OTHER DISTRICTS THAT DON'T HAVE THE REVENUE GENERATING THAT WE DO.
UH, THERE'S ONLY ONE THAT'S, THAT'S CLOSE.
AND EVEN, UH,
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? UM, OKAY, WE'VE HEARD THE REPORT.
WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND.
UH, IT'S TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON, UH, ITEM TWO OF THE AGENDA.
ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT? OKAY.
UH, ITEM THREE RECOMMENDATIONS RECEIVE FILED ALONG BEACH TRANSIT EMPLOYEE BUS PASS PROGRAM STATUS FOR AUGUST, 2025 ON EACH PAGE, SIR.
HOW WE VOTE? CAN WE GET A MOTION TO HEAR, PLEASE? OH, I'M SORRY.
I NEED A, I NEED A MOTION PLEASE.
ON PAGE 10, TITLING BSBA, BOARDINGS AND RIDERS FOR AUGUST, 2025.
WE HAD A TOTAL OF 5,889 BOARDINGS FOR AUGUST.
WE ARE UP COMPARED TO LAST YEAR.
IN TERMS OF RIDERSHIP FOR AUGUST, 2025, WE HAD 193 RIDER.
IN AUGUST OF 2024, WE HAD 160 RIDER.
SO WE ARE BOTH UP IN BOARDINGS AND WRITERS FOR AUGUST.
WHY IS SUCH A SPARK MONTH? BUT APRIL SEEMS TO BE TOO, BUT ALL GOOD.
WE'RE, WE'RE STEAMING AHEAD WITH THIS.
UM, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE ASKED THIS QUESTION.
UM, HOW LONG IS THIS PRO, IS THIS IN PERPETUITY? NO, IT, UH, THE CONTRACT ENDS IN DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR.
I'M MEETING WITH TERRY KON OF, UH, LONG BEACH TRANSIT TO DISCUSS EXTENDING THAT.
AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE MEETING YOU FEEL? YEAH.
UH, THEY WERE LOOKING WE'RE, WE HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO IRON OUT ALL THE, IRON OUT ALL THE THINGS AND GET AN EXTENSION AND GO TO COUNCIL BEFORE IT'LL GET, UH, BEFORE THE CONTRACT EXPIRES ON DECEMBER 31ST.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORT LOT.
SO THAT NEW CONTRACT WILL START JANUARY 1ST, 2026.
AND I THINK IT'S THE, THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T KNOW HOW HARD YOU WORK TO MAINTAIN THAT.
UH, ANY COMMENTS ON, I JUST POINT OUT FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT MEETING THAT, UM, IN ALL OF THESE REPORTS, I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN A MONTH WHERE THE BOARDS AND THE, UH, THE RIDERS DID NOT GO BY.
IT HAS NOT UP PRETTY CONSISTENT.
UH, THAT HASN'T, I DON'T THINK THAT'S HAPPENED SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE EITHER
BUT YES, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO, AND HEATHER FOR HEATHER, ALL YOU DO TO KEEP THIS PROGRAM GOING.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, I NOTICED, UH, THE LAST MEETING, I, I MADE A COMMENT ABOUT MY BUSINESS ON HERE THAT WE'RE LISTED TWICE.
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IT IS STILL THERE.AND I'M ASSUMING THE BELMONT WAS POSSESS.
IT'S BECAUSE OF, BECAUSE I'VE ENTERED IT DIFFERENTLY.
OH, SO IT, IS IT ONE OR THE OTHER OR IS IT COMBINED? IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST LIKE, I PUT ONE TIME I PUT THE BELMONT ONE TIME I PUT THE BELMONT
SO THAT'S HOW IT'S IN THE TRANSIT SPREADSHEET.
SO THE NUMBERS NEED YOU ADDED TOGETHER.
YOU KNOW, OR YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL YOU.
I I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS ONE OR THE OTHER, OR IF IT'S COMBINED.
IT'S 205 BECAUSE THEN 205, BECAUSE THEN YOU END UP ON THE TOP 10 LIST WHEN YOU HAVE TOGETHER.
I, I'M TRYING TO DO OUR PART HERE, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE MY MANAGERS ARE DOING WHAT I'M ASKING.
J UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY.
WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM THREE OF THE AGENDA.
UH, ITEM FOUR, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A STATUS UPDATE ON CONSERVATION COURT OF LONG BEACH IS WORKING THE SHORE, UH, INCLUDING RESPONSES TO REQUESTS FOR ASSISTANCE, UH, FOR AUGUST, 2025.
YOU GUYS READY? CAN WE HAVE A MOTION TO HEAR, PLEASE? OH, MOTION TO MOTION.
MOTION TO AND A SECOND PLEASE.
UM, YES, WE'RE JUST GONNA CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE ALWAYS DO.
UM, THE STREETS, THE BIG BELLIES, UM, TIME MEETINGS.
UM, AND THERE'S NO UPDATE OR CHANGES TO THE BIG BELLIES THAT WERE DAMAGED.
SAME THING, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN IT RESERVE WELL, UM, WE WENT THROUGH THAT KIND OF, KIND OF QUICK, BUT LET'S GO BACK TO BIG BELLIES.
WE ACTUALLY, I ACTUALLY DID SEND A LIST TO RYAN OF ALL THE UNIONS.
UM, AND THEN I ALSO DID SEND SOME RECOMMENDATIONS OF SOME REPLACEMENT CONTAINERS AS WELL.
WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A LIST OF ALL THE BIG BELLIES THAT NEED TO BE EITHER IN REPAIR OR, YOU KNOW, REPLACED.
AND THEN WE HAVE, WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT VENDORS AND SEE WHO CAN SUPPLY THE TRASH CANS THAT CONSERVATION CORPS HAS RECOMMENDED, BUT STILL, WELL IF, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF BIG VALUE UNITS, UH, 40 OF 'EM, 45 50.
AND OF THAT NUMBER, UH, WHAT NUMBER IS DILAPIDATED NEED TO REPAIR, UM, IN A CONDITION OTHER THAN, UH, FULLY OPERATIONAL? UH, I WOULD WANT TO SAY I SAY THAT ON ANYWHERE BETWEEN 30, 35%.
SO, AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S NOT, I DON'T THINK, COUNTING SOME OF THE OLDER UNITS THAT FIRST ON THE SHORE, WHO, WHICH MIGHT BE EITHER ALREADY OR ALMOST PHASED OUT OF THEIR LIFE.
SO WE COULD BE OVER 50% ALMOST.
AND SO THE CONVERSATION, RYAN, FOR THE CITY IS WARRANTED, LOOKING FOR AN ALTERNATIVE TO CUT COSTS OF REPAIR, COST OF REPLACEMENT, UH, EASE OF TRANSACTION, THE WHOLE CONVERSATION.
UM, COMMISSIONERS, THAT IS ONE OF THE AGENDA ITEMS. UH, THIS MORNING, UH, YOU'RE GOING TO THE CITY MANAGER, UM, HOPEFULLY IT'S NOT A NOVEL CONCEPT, UH, IN HIS OFFICE, BUT WE'RE WORKING PROBLEM FROM THE MIDDLE, UH, WHICH IS GOOD.
UH, ANOTHER FOR THE COMMISSION THIS MORNING IS GREAT.
UM, I JUST, I, I, WE'VE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS FOR MONTHS THAT SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE TO MAKE THIS BETTER.
UM, WHETHER IT'S REPLACEMENT OR, UH, I DUNNO WHAT THE OR IS, BUT, UM, WHAT ARE YOU FINDING SO FAR? THE, WE HAVE AN IDEA ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR
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IN TERMS OF A TRASH CAN.WE REALLY WANT A TRASH CAN THAT HAS BOTH RECYCLING AND TRASH IN IT.
UM, CONSERVATION BOARD PROVIDED A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES THAT I THINK WELL SHOULD HELP.
UM, IT'S JUST FROM NOW WE GOTTA LOOK AT ALL OF THE VENDORS AROUND TO FIND A GOOD PRICE AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
SO WHAT, WE'LL, WHAT I SEE US DOING IS WE CAN, YOU KNOW, ORDER A BATCH OF MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW, FIVE OR, YOU KNOW, FIVE OR 10, AND THEN SEE HOW THAT WORKS.
UM, BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S DEFINITELY GONNA TAKE TIME.
THEY MAY NOT BE THE ONE THERE, THERE MAY BE OTHER PROBLEMS THAT WE DON'T SEE DOWN THE ROAD THAT DIDN'T COME WITH BIG BELLIES, BUT NOW COME WITH THE NEW ONES.
SO I WOULD RATHER WE START WITH A SMALL BATCH AND SEE HOW THAT WORKS.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M CONFIDENT WE CAN FIND SOMETHING AT LEAST IN THE MEANTIME TO DO, YOU KNOW, HAVE DISCUSSIONS ON PLACING THEM.
UH, WELL, LET'S, LET'S CONTINUE WITH THE REPORT.
I FORGOT THAT SINCE THE LAST MEETING, UM, ONE OF THE DRIVERS DID DO A FULL AUDIT ON ALL OF THE BINS TO DOCUMENT ALL THE DAMAGES.
AND WE FOUND ABOUT NINE-ISH BINS THAT HAD SOME SORT OF DAMAGE TO THEM.
UM, SO THAT'S IT WITH THE BIG BELLIES.
UM, UH, SIMILAR TO I THINK LAST MONTH, UM, THERE'S SOMEONE THAT KEEPS BREAKING THE BRANCHES OFF THE TREES OR YEAH, THAT IS AWESOME.
YEAH, SO WE, YEAH, WE JUST PICK IT UP
IT'S THE SAME TAG FOR THE MOST PART.
AND IS THE GR UPDATED ALMOST IMMEDIATELY? IS IT GONE? OR I, A PICTURE WE DO CARRY GRAFFITI REMOVER WITH, WITH US, WE OUT ON.
SO IF IT IS ON ANY OF THE LIGHT POSTS OR ANY OF THE RACKS OR THE BIG BELLIES, THE CREW REMOVED IT.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION.
DO YOU, HAVE YOU EXPERIENCED ANY KIND OF, UH, BULK ITEMS THAT NEEDED TO BE PICKED UP? OR HAVE YOU HAD ANY KIND OF REQUESTS TO DO THAT? JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT NOT RECENTLY.
NO, PROBABLY A FEW MONTHS BACK, BUT AS A RECENT AND GONE.
WANT TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S NOT A PATTERN COMING UP.
THAT THERE'S BULKY ITEMS ALL OVER, ALL OVER THE AREA.
ANYTHING ELSE AS ERS? UH, WHAT DO WE HAVE AN ANTICIPATION OF LAST DAY FOR CONSERVATION COURT? UM, AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE NEW TEAM WILL START DECEMBER 1ST, SO, UH, NOVEMBER WILL BE THE LAST MONTH.
WE COULD CHANGE A WEEK OR TWO, BUT, UM, YEAH, WE CAN.
WE'LL, AND I KNOW, UH, WE HAVE ONE MORE BSBA MONTHLY MEETING BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
IS THAT CORRECT? WHAT, ONE MORE BREAKFAST MEETING? YES.
UM, THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND THE INVITATION TO, UH, CONSERVATION AGAIN, UH, YOU KNOW, COME AND HAVE BREAKFAST AND YOU KNOW, THIS TIME WE'RE GONNA SEND YOU OFF AGAIN
UH, WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND.
ANY COMMENT ON, I WANTED TO MENTION THAT THE REQUEST THAT CONSERVATION CORPS CHANGE THE DIRECTION THAT THEY START THE MORNING AND END, AND I WOULD JUST FEEL LIKE I SEE THEM WAY MORE, AND I THINK IT'S REALLY WORKING.
THEY WOULD START HERE AND GO THIS WAY.
SO I'M ASKING THEM TO START ON THE OTHER SIDE.
MOST OF OUR RESTAURANTS AND BIG TRASH ISSUES ARE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, SO NOW THEY DO THE SOUTH SIDE FIRST.
AND CAN WE, CAN WE PORT THAT OVER TO THE NEW COMPANY SO THAT YEAH.
UH, ALSO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY.
ALL IN FAVOR RECEIVING THE REPORT? AYE.
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RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE OF DISCUSSION REGARDING THE CITY ON THE PARKING LOT AND AFTER HOURS PARKING, UH, ALONG BEFORE.UH, SO WE DISCUSSED THIS LAST MONTH, AND I'M LOOKING FOR A REALLY ROBUST CONVERSATION ON THIS, UH, BECAUSE THERE'S A, THERE'S, THERE'S MORE TO THIS.
UM, THE CONCEPT, THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT AS A REMINDER WAS TO POTENTIALLY CLOSE THE PARKING LOTS THAT ARE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SECOND STREET.
UH, AND THERE'S FOUR OR FIVE OF THEM, UH, CLOSE THOSE LOTS AT, FOR EXAMPLE, 9:00 PM UH, TO 2:00 AM AND THE STAFF GOES WITH LIEUTENANT AND MAKE THAT, UM, A PARKING FEE, UM, OF, YOU KNOW, 15, 20, 20 $5.
THAT WAS THE OPENING DISCUSSION.
UM, THERE'S BEEN LOTS OF THOUGHT AND CONSIDERATION IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.
UM, AND I'M GONNA JUMP FORWARD AND SAY THAT, THAT THIS PARTICULAR, THE SEVERITY OF THIS CONCEPT, UH, IS REALLY TO DO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, IS DISCUSS IT AND COME UP HOPEFULLY WITH SOME OTHER ALTERNATIVES.
AND THIS IS ALL IN THE DIRECTION OF TRYING TO, UH, CROSS SOME OF THE ACTIVITY IN THOSE PARKING LOTS LATE NIGHT ON SPECIFICALLY FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHTS.
UH, I WANT TO REMIND, UH, EVERYBODY THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THOSE PARKING LOTS AT THAT HOUR ARE NOT JUST VISITING BARS.
UH, THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT COME AND PARK, UM, AND GO TO RESTAURANTS.
THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT COME AND PARK AND GO TO GYMS. THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT COME AND PARK AND GO TO PEOPLE'S HOUSES.
UM, AND THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO COME AND PARK AND GET HOT DOGS, UH, THAT ARE FOR SALE ON THE STREET.
THESE ARE PUBLIC PARKING LOTS.
AND PUBLIC PARKING LOTS DON'T HAVE A SINGLE USE FOR SINGLE PURPOSE.
SO IT'S, IT'S, THERE'S A VERY, UH, NUMBER OF REASONS THAT PEOPLE PARK THERE.
UM, AND NOT EVERYBODY, UM, HOOPS IT UP IN THOSE PARKING LOTS, BUT JUST ENOUGH DO THAT.
UM, I, AS AN OPERATOR OF ARE AND VERY SYMPATHETIC TO WHAT THAT DOES TO RESIDENTS, UH, IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT'S UNSAFE.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO MITIGATE THAT.
THAT'S WHAT THIS CONVERSATION IS ABOUT.
UM, ANOTHER CONCEPT THAT WE DON'T CONSIDER IS MORE OF A DYNAMIC PRICING APPROACH, WHICH WOULD BE THE METERS CHANGE AT SAY NINE O'CLOCK.
UH, AND FOR THOSE PARKING LOTS AND THOSE METERS ONLY, AND THEY DON'T STOP AT, AT NOW, SEVEN O'CLOCK, THEY RUN UNTIL 2:00 AM AND THEY COME WITH A HEFTY PRICE TAG OF, OF ANYWHERE FROM FIVE TO SIX, SEVEN $8 AN HOUR.
UH, THE EXTRA REVENUE COULD AFFORD A HIGHER GRADE SECURITY IN THOSE PARKING LOTS.
AGAIN, ALL WE'RE DOING IS MITIGATING WHAT'S MISSING, WHICH IS A POLICE PRESENCE.
AND IF THERE'S NOT A POLICE PRESENCE, WE'RE FORCED TO FIND OTHER ALTERNATIVES TO, TO MITIGATE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THOSE LOTS.
UH, A VERY AFFORDABLE WAY TO MITIGATE IS WHAT PANAMA JOE'S DID IN THEIR LOT AS A, AS A BETA TEST.
THEY PUT A LIGHT BACK THERE, UH, THAT'S LIKE THE SUN.
AND YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WHAT LIGHT DOES.
SO THE NEXT ASK HERE, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS, UH, TODAY, UH, LATER, BECAUSE THIS IS ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM.
CAN WE FLOOD IN THOSE PARKING LOTS WITH LIGHT? UH, THAT SEEMS TO BE REALLY INEXPENSIVE IN A MEDIA WAY TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE, THE ACTIVITY BACK THERE.
BUT THESE ARE SOME OF THE THOUGHTS ON HOW WE CAN FOSTER, UH, THE DISCUSSION.
AND, AND AM I EXPECTING DYNAMIC PRICING TO GO TO $9 AN HOUR? NO, I'M NOT.
AND I'M NOT EXPECTING WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, PARKING ATTENDANTS EITHER.
AND, AND ALTHOUGH YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT COULD HAPPEN, WHY THE CITIES DO THIS.
UH, ONE FINAL, UH, THOUGHT IS THAT TWO FINAL THOUGHTS.
UH, ONE TO BALANCE FOR THE RESIDENTS, UH, IS THAT WE MAY WANT TO BRING UP THE NOTION CONCEPT OF PERMIT PARKING AGAIN.
AND THERE ARE LOTS OF EXAMPLES, UH, IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, IN BEACH COMMUNITIES WHERE PERMIT PARKING IS VERY EFFECTIVE FOR JUST THIS PURPOSE.
UH, AND IT IT REGULATES AND FILTERS, UM, VISITORS IN PARKING LOTS THAT ARE DOING THINGS OTHER THAN JUST GOING INTO A BUSINESS.
UH, AND LASTLY, AND THIS IS, UH, ANOTHER
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TALKING POINT, UH, AT A CERTAIN POINT IN THE EVENING, ON THOSE BUSY EVENINGS, WE REGULATE HOW PEOPLE CAN EXIT THOSE PARKING LOTS.SO INSTEAD OF COMING OUT OF THE LOT AND GOING DOWN, GOING SOUTH ON A SIDE STREET, YOU WOULD HAVE TO COME OUT AND GO NORTH AND EXIT THE SECOND STREET.
AND THAT WOULD REDUCE A LOT OF TRAFFIC THAT GOES DOWN, SPOKE STREETS, UH, LATE AT NIGHT, WHICH IS OF CONCERN TO RESIDENTS.
AGAIN, THEY, YOU KNOW, JESUS CHRIST, PEOPLE ARE COMING DOWN HERE AND THEY'RE BANGING INTO CARS AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE STOPPING HALFWAY AND, AND THROWING STUFF OUT OF THEIR CARS, UH, AND BE VERY PROBLEM BACK.
IT REQUIRES AN EFFORT, UH, BUT EGRESS OUT OF THOSE PARKING LOT WOULD BE TO THE NORTH AND RIGHT ONTO SECOND STREET INSTEAD OF DOWN THE SLOPE RESIDENT STREETS.
UM, SO THESE ARE THE, THESE ARE SOME OF THE CONCEPTS, UM, AS A, AS A STARTING POINT THAT, UH, WE CAN'T HAVE AND ULTIMATELY RECOMMEND TO, UH, CITY COUNCIL ON WAYS TO MITIGATE THE REDUCED POLICE PRESENCE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO WITH THAT, LET'S DISCUSS IT.
CAN I GET A MOTION, PLEASE? A MOTION AND A SECOND? SECOND.
THERE'S THE, THERE'S YOUR, YOUR, YES, SIR.
UM, WELL, MY GENERAL PREFERENCE IS ALWAYS TO START SMALL AND LOOK UP TO LIKE THE LEAST INTRUSIVE THING.
UM, THE LIGHTING WE'VE GOT SOME EXPERIENCE WITH, SOUNDS LIKE IT, IT, IT IS, IS HELPING.
UM, THE ONLY CAVEAT IS THAT THING THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, CITIES CAN SOMETIMES FORGET ABOUT, WHICH IS THAT ALL OF THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE GOING BE AFFECTED BY THAT, UM, BE AN ACTIVE PART OF THAT.
UM, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT SHOULDN'T BE ENTIRELY ON THEM, I WOULD THINK, TO HAVE TO SHIELD THEMSELVES FROM THAT LIGHT.
UM, IF THERE'S, IF DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, HOW LIGHT IS MADE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, UM, THEY SHOULD BE A, A PART OF THE PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD SOLUTION IS NOT, UH, A DISADVANTAGE WITH THEM.
UM, I, I, I DID HEAR SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE NEIGHBORS THAT, UM, ABUT THE PANAMA JOE'S PARKING LOT DIRECTLY.
AND, UH, THE, THIS IS ANECDOTAL, UH, I DIDN'T HEAR IT FIRSTHAND.
I WAS TOLD THIS THAT THEY WERE IN FAVOR OF THE LIGHT, AND THEY WERE THE LIGHT, THE NOISE, UH, SEVEN DAYS AND OUT SEVEN DAYS, AND THEY CAN CLOSE THEIR LINES.
SO THAT'S, IF THIS IS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, ALONG THE, THE, THE PARKING LOTS ON ALL THE SOUTH SIDE, UM, THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GONNA TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE, MORE WORK.
BUT AGAIN, AT, AT THE LOWEST COST OF THE OTHER OPTIONS.
UM, AND THE, THE, THE LEAST, YOU KNOW, INTRUSIVENESS OF
I THINK LAST MEETING I ASKED IF MAYBE THE PANAMA JOE'S OWNER OR WHOEVER MANAGER COULD COME AND SPEAK TO US ABOUT, BUT IF YOU TALK TO HIM, THAT'S GREAT.
UM, I'D BE IN FAVOR OF THAT AS WELL.
UM, HAVING A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WITH OWNERS THAT, THAT LIVE BY THOSE PARKING LOTS TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT.
BUT I ALSO THINK WE SHOULD LOOK INTO THE PERMIT.
I THAT COMES WITH ITS OWN ISSUES.
I KNOW, BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE GONNA WANT MORE AND MORE AND MORE.
WELL, I HAVE 10 CARS, SO WE NEED TO, SO WE'D REALLY HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT.
BUT I THINK THAT COULD WORK ULTIMATELY AND MAKE THE RESIDENTS HAPPY, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY USE THOSE BLOCKS.
SO I THINK THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO GO THROUGH TO, TO BEGIN WITH.
YEAH, THAT'S A, I I GUESS MY, MY SENSE IS THAT THE, UM, THE LIGHTING IS LESS INTRUSIVE TO, SO TRY THAT FIRST.
AND IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, THEN YOU'RE INCREASINGLY, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, THE PERMITS OR THE, UM, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, DYNAMIC PARKING OR WHATEVER.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, START WITH THAT, SEE HOW, HOW MUCH THAT DOES.
UM, AND IF THE PROBLEM CONTINUES BEYOND THAT, THEN YOU GO TO A LITTLE BIT MORE, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, AGAIN, INTRUSIVE IS PROBABLY NOT THE RIGHT WORD, BUT, BUT, UM, UH, AGGRESSIVE, UM, IDEAS
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QUESTION ON OPTION ONE WITH TALKING ABOUT THE PARKING LOT CLOSING AT 9:00 PM AND THEN HAVING IT WAY OF COLLECTING FUNDS.SO I ASSUME WE'D HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE HERE TO COLLECT FUNDS IF WE CLOSED IT ON, ON THAT OPTION, WHERE YOU WOULD CLOSE 'EM AND HAVE AN ATTENDED STAFF.
AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S HAS ALL SORTS OF, EXCUSE ME, ADDITIONAL HAIR ON IT.
YOU GOTTA HAVE SOME SORT OF A WORKSTATION.
THERE HAS TO BE DISCUSSION OF, OF, YOU KNOW, IS THAT AN OUT WAGE OR A SALARY WORKER THAT HAVE TO BE BENEFITTED THROUGH THE CITY? THEY HAVE TO BE A CITY EMPLOYEE.
THAT, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A VERY COMPLICATED SOLUTION.
UH, BACK FROM THAT WOULD BE THE DYNAMIC PRICING.
IT JUST REQUIRES SIGNAGE BACK FROM THAT IS, UH, AND COMMISSIONER LAKE IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
UH, THE BROADER ALTITUDE, UH, UH, RESULT IS THIS IS THE CONVERSATION WE NEED TO HAVE, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO MITIGATE THE LACK OF POLICE PRESENCE AND THE LAWLESSNESS THAT IS DOWN THERE, UH, AT THESE HOURS.
AND, UH, WE ARE SYMPATHETIC AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT AMPLIFIED MUSIC AT THIS POINT, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S ON THE AGENDA LATER AS WELL.
AND THESE ARE SIMPLER SITTING HERE AT THIS TABLE.
THESE ARE SIMPLE THINGS TO SOLVE, UH, BUT MASSIVELY COMPLEX, UH, AT THE CITY.
WELL, YOU, I THINK AT THE LAST MEETING IT WAS MENTIONED ABOUT IF RESIDENTS WANT, SAY AFTER 9:00 PM OR 9:00 PM AFTER IT WENT WITH OFFICER WHITE, THEN HOW MANY SPACES WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR RESIDENTS DURING THAT TIME? AND THERE WOULD BE, LOGIC WOULD DICTATE THERE WOULD BE A CARVE OUT, UH, FOR RESIDENTS.
UM, BECAUSE THERE IS A, A, A, UH, UM, A HIERARCHY THERE, OF COURSE.
UH, UH, BUT WE ALSO, YOU KNOW, THIS ENVIRONMENT, IT'S LIMITED.
IT'S LIKE ANY BEACH COMMUNITY, UH, PARKING IS, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A PROBLEM.
IT WAS A PROBLEM 30 YEARS AGO.
IT'S GONNA BE A PROBLEM 30 YEARS FROM NOW.
NOW, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT OF THAT WHEN YOU, 'CAUSE OPTION THREE WAS THE PERMIT PARKING ME.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF THOSE TWO THINGS ARE CONNECTED OR NOT, OR IS IT A DIFFERENT TYPE OF THING FOR OPTION ONE, WHERE IF RESIDENTS PLAN YOU, MAYBE THE SAME FOLKS PARK THERE ALL THE TIME OR WANT TO COUNT ON IT, YOU KNOW, HOW DID THEY JUST GET A PERMIT FOR THAT BLOCK? THAT'S JUST, I'M JUST GIVING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE, BUT I, I MEAN, I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS TODAY, BUT NO, WE DON'T.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD WANT TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, I LIKED THAT OPTION WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE LAST MEETING FOR HAVING THE ATTENDANT.
BECAUSE I THINK WHEN PEOPLE FEEL THAT THERE'S EYES ON THEM, AND ALSO WHEN THEY HAVE TO PAY, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY, IT MAY DETER IT.
MAY I, WE NEED MORE INFORMATION.
I'M NOT, I, I DON'T HAVE THAT EVIDENCE IT, EXCEPT THAT IT SEEMS LOGICAL THAT IT WOULD POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, SAVE THAT OFF.
UM, I THINK THE DYNAMIC PRICING SOUNDS INTERESTING, BUT AGAIN, NEED I NEED MORE INFORMATION, I, I, THE ONLY THING ABOUT THAT THAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT WHO'S GOING TO QUOTE UNQUOTE POLICE IT.
I MEAN, IF WE, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GONNA HAVE METER FOLKS DOWN THERE, YOU KNOW, AT THAT TIME OF NIGHT? IT DOESN'T, I MEAN, IF WE HAD THAT LEVEL OF ENFORCEMENT, THEN WE MIGHT NOT EVEN HAVE A PROBLEM RIGHT NOW.
YOU KNOW? SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THE DYNAMIC PRICING, YOU KNOW, WILL DETER, UM, THE TYPES OF FOLKS THAT, THAT WE'RE SEEING, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WANT TO HANG OUT.
TECHNICALLY, WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ALL CARS, RIGHT? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE ALL THE STATISTICS ON THAT.
FOR EXAMPLE, PEOPLE WHEN, WHEN RITE AID WAS THERE, I'M JUST GIVING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE.
DURING THE DAY, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD HANG OUT IN THE PARKING LOT AND DO ALL KINDS OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, SMOKE, HANG OUT, DO THINGS THAT MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE JUST LOITERING AROUND.
YOU KNOW, THEY KIND OF, IT DON'T MAKE SENSE.
SO I'M JUST SAYING AS YOU GET LATER INTO THE NIGHT, THINGS GET A LITTLE MORE CARRIED AWAY.
BUT IT COULD BE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING OUT, MAYBE THEY'RE NOT EVEN PARKED THERE, I'M JUST SAYING.
UM, BUT THEY STILL WANT TO CREATE PROBLEMS. UM, THE PERMIT PARKING GREAT TO EXPLORE.
I KNOW WE'VE DONE IT SEVERAL TIMES, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ALL OF US RESIDENTS HAVE, A LOT OF US HAVE WANTED TO LOOK INTO.
AND IT SEEMS THAT IT COMES BACK FROM THE COASTAL COMMISSION THAT WE CAN'T DO IT, EVEN THOUGH, AND THE OTHER CITY'S A BIG GRANDFATHERED IN.
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NOW, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TO LONG BEACH, IT'S A LITTLE BIT TRICKIER.WELL, THERE IS THAT COASTAL COMMISSION OVERLAY, AND THAT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT.
BUT I THINK IN 2025, UH, IF THE TWO GROUPS MEANING, UH, THE BUSINESS GROUP AND THEN THE RESIDENTS GROUP, UH, THIS IS ALL, AGAIN, I LOVE THE CONVERSATION.
IT'S ALL IN THE DIRECTION OF, OF THE DISCUSSION ALL YEAH.
AND THROUGH THE DISCUSSION, WE'RE GONNA FIND A WAY TO MITIGATE THIS AND, AND A SOLUTION IN PLACE.
AGAIN, EASIEST IS POLICE PRESENCE, RIGHT? UM, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE FORCED TO PUSH THIS CONVERSATION, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WELL, I LIKE THE MULTI, I, I LIKE THE THINKING ON THIS AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE, AS WE LADDER IT UP, AS YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, STARTING WITH THE, THE EASIEST THING FIRST AND THE MOST OBVIOUS THING THAT YOU COULD DO, AND THEN TRY TO TAKE IT FROM THERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE REGULATING HOW PEOPLE GET OFF TO SECOND STREET IS GOOD TOO.
I THINK THEY ALL HAVE MERIT AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, IN A PERFECT WORLD, YOU COULD DO ALL OF 'EM IN SOME DEGREE.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE NOT THE DYNAMIC, BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE PERMIT WITH THE HOW TO GET TO SECOND STREET WITH THE ATTENDING, IF YOU HAD THOSE THREE THINGS.
BUT AS YOU MENTIONED IT, TO BE COST CONSCIOUS AND ALSO EXPEDITIOUS, BECAUSE SOMETHING THAT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE CITY WITH MULTIPLE LAYERS OF APPROVAL, YOU KNOW, WOULD TAKE MORE TIME.
AND IF WE WANNA SOLVE A PROBLEM IMMEDIATELY, WHAT'S THE LOW HANGING PROOF? IS THE, IS THE LIGHTING, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD REALLY BE ADDRESSED QUITE QUICKLY, I WOULD ASSUME.
UM, I THINK, I THINK WHAT PREMATURE EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD WITH, YOU KNOW, WORKING OUR WAY UP FROM THE BOTTOM AND WITH WHAT DAVID HAD SAID MAKES SENSE IS, YOU KNOW, LET'S NOT TRY TO THROW TOO MANY THINGS AT THE SAME TIME AT THIS ISSUE.
AND I THINK EVERYBODY AGREES THAT THE, THE INCREASED LIGHTING AND WORKING WITH ANY AFFECTED RESIDENTS WITH THAT LIGHTING WOULD BE FAIRLY EASY TO DO.
UM, 'CAUSE KIND OF WHAT JOSEPH'S ALREADY SHOWN IS THAT IT IS, UM, AND I REALLY LIKE IF THAT NEXT STEP IS WARRANTED, UM, AND THERE'S AN ATTENDANT IN PLACE OR SOME OTHER CONTROL THAT, UH, NORTH EGRESS MAKES A LOT OF SENSE AND JUST NOT GIVE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, VISITING DOWN HERE THE OPTION TO HEAD INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND SEND 'EM BACK TO SEVENTH STREET.
UM, NOT TO MENTION IF WE AT SOME POINT GET MORE OF A, UH, POLICE PRESENCE, YOU'RE GONNA FUNNEL A LOT OF PEOPLE TO A VERY EASY PLACE TO TRY AND MANAGE, YOU KNOW, THEIR ACTIONS AS THEY GET ON SECOND STREET.
ANOTHER QUESTION, COMMENT, WHY CAN'T WE, ALONG WITH DOING THE LIGHTNING AND WE ALL INSIDE, THERE'S THE BEST WAY TO GO.
WHY CAN'T WE ALREADY GET THE TRAFFIC GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR US? WHY CAN'T WE START THAT CONVERSATION, MAKE THE TRAFFIC GO NORTH? OH, YES.
LIKE THAT'S, START WITH THAT AND LET'S GET THAT GOING.
AND THEN WE WORK ON DOING THE LIGHTING.
I MEAN, I WOULD, I WOULD ABSOLUTELY WORK.
I DON'T KNOW, WITH TRAFFIC, I GUESS WE HAVE TO GET THEM INVOLVED.
HOW WOULD, HOW WOULD THAT WORK THOUGH? BECAUSE BOTH OF THOSE EXIT, IT WOULD, IT WOULD HAVE TO INCORPORATE CLOSING ONE OF THE EXITS BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS ONE WAY.
YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO CLOSE AN EXIT.
AND MY EXAMPLE OF THAT IS IT'S VERY EASY FOR THE CITY TO CLOSE.
BAYSHORE ALLOW PEOPLE TO RIDE THEIR BIKES AND DRINK MM-HMM
AND WHY CAN'T WE CLOSE A PARKING LOT TO FUNNEL TRAFFIC OUT ON THE SECOND STREET YEP.
AND MITIGATE THE, THE CRAP THAT THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH AT TWO.
CAN WE AT LEAST HAVE TO ASK, GET THAT? YEP.
IN TERMS OF LIGHTING, I SPOKE WITH THE, UH, MANAGER OVER AT PSB AND HE SAID HE DID AN AUDIT OF THE LIGHTS ON THE PARKING LOTS.
UM, OUT OF THE SEVEN LOTS THERE, THE LIGHTS ARE MIXED BETWEEN EDISON AND THE CITY.
SO THE CITY DOES NOT OWN ALL OF 'EM.
UM, OUT OF THOSE SEVEN LOTS I CAN SEE, ONLY ONE IS, HAS A COUPLE OF LIGHTING ISSUES WHERE A LIGHT POLE
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IS NON-FUNCTIONAL.SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL NEED TO DO PUBLIC WORKS, NOT THE COMMISSIONERS WILL NEED TO WORK WITH EDISON TO GET THAT LIGHT POLE REPLACED.
IT'S ON THE GRANADA AND NEDO LOT.
ALL OF THE OTHER LOTS HAVE LED LIGHTS THAT ARE FULLY OPERATIONAL.
SO WHAT OUR NEXT, SO WHAT OUR PLAN SHOULD BE IS TO GET THE GRANADA NEDO LOT TAKING CARE OF WITH THOSE EDISON LIGHTS, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO IN EDISON CAN GET THOSE REPLACED.
AND THEN NUMBER TWO, TRYING TO COME UP WITH ADDITIONAL LED LIGHTS FROM VARIOUS STREETLIGHT VENDORS TO SEE IF WE CAN INSTALL THOSE ON THOSE SEVEN LOTS.
WELL, TO IMPROVE THE LIGHT, LET'S GO ONE MORE STEP, SIR, AND ASK FOR THE BENEVOLENCE OF STAKEHOLDERS.
UM, UH, I, I OWN THE BUILDING WHERE LEGENDS IS, UH, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PUT THE LIGHTS ON MY BUILDING, UH, THAN AT LEAST GO INTO THAT SECTION OF THAT PARKING LOT.
I CAN'T SPEAK FOR MY NEIGHBORING STAKEHOLDERS, BUT, UM, I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO.
I KNOW THAT RON AT JOES IS HAPPY TO MM-HMM
UM, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR, UH, MR.
UM, BUT, UH, I WOULD, I WOULD GO FOR THE BENEVOLENT ASK IN ADDITION TO EDISON, UM, BECAUSE THAT MIGHT BE A, A QUICKER PATH TO OKAY.
AND I REALIZE WHAT THAT MEANS.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S THE, THE EXPENSE FOR THE LIGHTS, NOT THAT, NOT THAT BAD.
SO JUST, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING ASK THEM IF WE CAN INSTALL LIGHTS ON THERE, ON THEIR SIDE, CAMERAS TO THE STAKEHOLDERS AND ASK IF, IF WE CAN PUT LIGHTS ON THEIR BUILDINGS.
AND I WOULD, I WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK THIS IS ONGOING DISCUSSION THAT I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE HAVING.
UM, BUT YEAH, LET'S START WITH LIGHTING FIRST.
I THINK IT'S REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT ONLY, UM, IT GIVES US BETTER, A BETTER IDEA NOW HEARING BACK FROM PUBLIC SERVICE BUREAU THAT ONLY ONE OF THE LOTS HAS, UH, OPERATIONAL ISSUES.
SO, UM, THAT KIND OF ANSWERS OUR QUESTION OF ALL, MOST OF THE LIGHTS ARE OPERATIONAL AND THAT'S NOT ENOUGH.
CLEARLY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NORTHBOUND EXIT, UM, IF WE COULD EXPLORE THAT AS WELL BASED ON, JUST BASED ON MY, THE TICKS ON MY NOTES THAT, THAT, UH, OF THE FIVE COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE SITTING HERE, EACH ONE OF THEM WAS IN FAVOR OF THAT OPTION AS WELL.
VERY MUCH BY THE WAY, I KNOW I'M ON THE NORTH SIDE, BUT THERE'S STILL A PARKING LOT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S PRIVATE, BUT IT'S JUST, ANY TIME THERE'S A PARKING LOT, THERE'S GONNA BE A PROBLEM.
I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT LIGHTS, UM, I'M ALSO ASSUMING IN THAT, UM, UH, CAMERAS, UM, BECAUSE THE, THE, THE ISSUE HERE IS, I MEAN, NUMBER ONE IS DETERRENCE, BUT NUMBER TWO IS TO HELP THE PEOPLE THAT CAN PROSECUTE THINGS THAT ARE ACTUALLY GOING ON TO GIVE THEM EVIDENCE.
WELL, I CAN, I CAN ABSOLUTELY TELL YOU WITH FACT THAT BEHIND, I BELIEVE THERE ARE CAMERAS, NOT CITY CAMERAS, PRIVATE CAMERAS MM-HMM
THAT ARE POINTED IN THAT PARKING LOT, 24 7 MM-HMM
UH, PAT JOE'S HAS 'EM, THE DOGS HAS 'EM.
UM, SO MANY, NOT EVERY, BUT SO MANY BUSINESSES DO ON SECOND STREET, NEARLY 100% OF THAT AVENUE IS COVERED.
SO, WELL THAT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, MY, MY POINT HERE IS THAT, UH, THERE ARE TWO KINDS OF GAPS HERE.
ONE IS THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE PROBLEMS THAT ARE ACTUALLY GOING ON.
AND TWO IS THE LAW ENFORCEMENT.
AND THE, AND THE PREMISE OF OF THIS IS, AGAIN, THE LEAST INTRUSION, LEAST COST TO HELP MAKE THEIR JOB EASIER.
UM, IN, IN ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, GETTING EVIDENCE TO, TO DO SOME PROSECUTIONS.
THAT'S, UM, WHERE THE DETERRENCE COMES FROM.
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LIGHT HELP.BUT THE EVIDENCE IS PROBABLY GONNA BE MORE VALUABLE TO HUNDRED PERCENT.
AND JUST A, UH, CONCLUDING MARK HERE, THIS IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF CONVERSATION THAT I THINK IS THE MOST HELPFUL IN GOVERNMENT IN GENERAL.
WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS WE'RE IDENTIFYING PROBLEMS IN TWO OF THEM, IN MY VIEW.
UM, WE ARE CONSIDERING THE KINDS OF OPTIONS, UH, AND WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH, UM, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, A STEPPED VERSION OF THINGS THAT CAN BE REASONABLY, UM, IMPLEMENTED.
UM, AND, UM, AND WE HAVEN'T HEARD YET FROM, FROM RESIDENTS.
WE GET MORE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST TALKING NOW.
THERE'S PLENTY MORE INPUT THAT NEEDS TO COME INTO THIS AS THINGS GET REFINED AND UNDERSTOOD.
BUT, UH, I AM REALLY PROUD TO BE PART OF THIS DISCUSSION.
WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT.
SO MY
UM, I WOULD WANT TO HEAR FROM GRAN RESIDENTS AND WOULD BE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING IN TESTING OF THOSE LIGHTS, UM, TO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T GO INTO RESIDENCE WINDOWS.
AND I THINK IT WOULD BE, UH, BEST IF THE LIGHTS FACE THE BUSINESSES RATHER THAN THE RESIDENTS.
UH, I WOULD NEED TO HEAR MORE ABOUT HOW THE EGRESS OPTION WOULD ACTUALLY TRULY WORK.
'CAUSE IT SEEMS, UM, LIKE IT WOULD BE A TOUGH THING TO DO FROM CITY PERSPECTIVE.
UM, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, I'M COMPLETELY AGAINST THE DYNAMIC PRICING BECAUSE IT'LL SIMPLY SEND MORE PEOPLE TO PARKING ON OUR RESIDENTIAL STREETS.
BUT I HAVE HEARD OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN FROM RESIDENTS, UM, THAT THEY WOULD LOVE PERMIT PARKING.
AND WE'VE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THE, UM, CONCEPT THAT COASTAL WON'T ALLOW IT.
BUT IF WE COULD GET THAT DONE, I THINK, UM, RESIDENTS WOULD LOVE THAT.
UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, SIR.
UH, BRIAN COCHRAN, I SURE I'D ECHO EVERY POINT JULIE JUST MADE, BUT ALSO WANT TO, UM, ILLUMINATE THE IDEA OF THE LIGHTING THING, THE CITY IN RESPONSE TO COVID AND THE NUMBER OF THINGS THAT HAPPENED, UH, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
YOU SEE THESE LIGHT STRUCTURES IN ALMOST EVERY COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE INVOLVED RIGHT NOW.
THEY'RE INTRUSIVE, THEY'RE ANNOYING, EVEN DURING DUSK AND, AND LATE NIGHT HOURS YOU PASS THEM.
YOU'RE AWARE OF THIS PRESENCE, WHICH HAS A DETERRENT EFFECT, CERTAINLY, BUT WHICH THE QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE FOR EVERYONE TO PLACE THESE ESSENTIALLY ADJACENT TO PEOPLE'S RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES AND HAVE THAT GLOW.
AND I LIVE AT THE PIER WHERE I HAVE A GLOW OF THREE BUSINESSES AND ENCROACH IN OUR QUALITY OF LIFE EVERY DAY.
I THINK MY SUGGESTION AND URGENT URGING TO YOU IS TO STOP THINKING ALWAYS FROM A COMMERCIAL STANDPOINT AND LOOK AT IT FROM THE COMMUNITY STANDPOINT FIRST.
UM, I KNOW MOST OF YOU ARE BUSINESS OWNERS IN SOME REGARDS, SO YOU HAVE A MINDSET THAT'S DIRECTED BY THAT.
BUT I WOULD SAY FLIP THAT AROUND AND START FROM THE OPPOSITE POINT OF VIEW, THAT WHILE RESIDENTS CERTAINLY WANT TO CUT DOWN NOISE AND ISSUES GOING ON WITH PARKING LOTS, ADDING MORE THINGS THAT WON'T BE MONITORED AND WHICH WILL NOT BE EFFECTIVE ENTIRELY, HAVE CONSEQUENCES THAT THOSE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FRONT AND CENTER.
I DO LIVE LONG BEACH, BUT I'M ALSO THE NEW MOBILITY OFFICER AND I WILL BE IN CHARGE OF PARKING SOON.
UM, SO I WILL SAY I CAN'T SPEAK TRAFFIC ENGINEERING WISE OPERATIONALLY.
SOME SIGNAGE AND SOME ARROWS ON THE GROUND CAN TURN A LOT A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
UM, THAT'S RELATIVELY AN EASY THING TO DO.
WHETHER OR NOT THAT WORKS WITH THE STREETS ADJACENT TO IT IS A DIFFERENT STORY.
UM, STAFFING, UH, A COMPANY'S NOT GONNA WANT TO TAKE ON THE LIABILITY OF DEALING WITH WHATEVER THE PROBLEMS ARE YOU GUYS ARE ALLUDING TO WITH THEIR STAFF MEMBERS.
I WOULD ASSUME THAT IT'S GONNA BE THE SAME ISSUE WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BE LIKE, I'M GONNA BACK OFF 'CAUSE THAT PERSON'S DRUNK CAUSING A RUCKUS OR WHATEVER.
SO THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA STEP IN AND DO SOMETHING.
UM, DYNAMIC PRICING IS A THING, BUT GRADUATED PRICING IS ALSO ANOTHER THING.
SO MAYBE THE FIRST TWO HOURS IT'S $3, BUT THEN YOU CAN STAY FOURTH HOUR, IT'S $12.
RIGHT? SO IT GOES, IT, IT GRADUATES VERSUS DYNAMIC.
UM, AND I THINK THAT THE MOST SIMPLE SOLUTION IS PARKING ENFORCEMENT.
I THINK THERE'S 12 OUT OF 24 POSITIONS FILLED RIGHT NOW.
THE MAJORITY OF THOSE, AND I DUNNO IF YOU GUYS KNOW, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT PARKING OPERATIONS.
THERE'S PARKING CONTROL WHICH FOLLOWS A SWEEPER PARKING ENFORCEMENT, WHICH
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DOES PARKING ENFORCEMENT.UM, PARKING ENFORCEMENT HAS 12 OUT OF 24, I BELIEVE RIGHT NOW.
AND ONCE, IF THAT DOES GET FULLY STAFFED, THEN IT'LL BE OPERATIONAL AT NIGHT ALSO.
'CAUSE I THINK MOSTLY IT'S DURING THE DAY.
I IMAGINE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ENFORCEMENT THERE, THERE, WHICH MIGHT TAKE CARE OF IT ANYWAY.
AND THE PRICING PIECE MIGHT NOT ACTUALLY BE RELEVANT IF PEOPLE AREN'T ACTUALLY PAYING BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET DATED.
SO LIKE THOSE TWO THINGS, JUST MY GUESS, THANK YOU FOR THE PERSPECTIVE.
UH, ALL IN FAVOR FOR THE COURT? AYE.
UM, BEFORE WE ADJOURN, WE HAVE ONE MORE OPTION FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANY ITEM, PUBLIC COMMENT.