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EIGHT 30 THIS

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MORNING.

I'M OFFICIALLY CALLING TO ORDER THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION, UM, UH, MEETING, UH, FOR OUR EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AT ON, UM, THURSDAY, OCTOBER 2ND.

AND IT IS NOW EIGHT 30.

UH, AND WE ARE LOCATED IN THE ALAMEDAS BAY MARINA CONFERENCE ROOM AT TWO OH FIVE.

MARINA DRIVE.

CALL TO ORDER.

WE'LL START WITH A ROLL CALL.

YES.

UH, COMMISSIONER MURRAY HERE.

COMMISSIONER MCRAY.

I AM HERE.

COMMISSIONER MARINA.

I AM HERE.

YEAH.

THE QUORUM.

I HAVE A QUORUM AS WELL AS THREE STAFF MEMBERS, AND THERE ARE NO VISITORS AT THIS TIME.

I WOULD START OUT WITH OUR REGULAR AGENDA.

UM, I, UH, MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING, UH, AS THEY WERE DISTRIBUTED.

SECOND.

SECOND.

ALL IN.

I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN.

I WASN'T HERE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UH, AND BY THE FUNCTION OF OUR MOTION, UH, MR. MCRAY AND I ARE BOTH ARE APPROVED OF THE MINUTES AS DISTRIBUTED.

UH, NOW WE'RE GONNA START ON AGENDA ITEM TWO.

UH, I MOVE THAT WE START A, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS AND REVIEW THE FUTURE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION AGENDA ITEMS. SO MOVED OR SECOND.

SO MOVED AND SECONDED.

UH, SO LET'S START WITH THAT AND WE'LL TURN TO STAFF TO START LOOKING AT SOME OF OUR AGENDA ITEMS. UH, FIRST WE'RE DOING THE CUSTOMARY APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING, AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, PLANNED A, UH, A STATUS ON ONE OF THE BLESS, BLESS, UM, CONCESSIONS THAT'S ON OUR BEACH.

UH, CAN WE HEAR FURTHER ON THAT YOU WANT? YEAH, GO AHEAD.

UH, I DON'T GUYS, UH, UH, GOTCHA.

BEACH, UH, THEY'LL JUST BE COMING IN, UH, UH, MAX GOLDENBERG.

AND THEN, UH, ADRIAN MAX IS THE OPERATIONS MANAGER.

AND THEN ADRIAN ELOSA IS, UH, ONE OF THE BLESS PROPRIETORS, UH, UH, WILL HAVE BOTH OF THEM, I BELIEVE.

AND THEY'LL JUST BE COMING IN AND, UH, UH, PROVIDED AN UPDATE AND A, UH, PRESENTATION ON ALL THINGS THAT ARE GAUCHO BEACH AND THE ISLAND IN A SPEECH AREA.

CORRECT.

UM, LET'S THINK ABOUT THIS SMARTER SO THAT WE'RE KIND TO OUR CONCESSIONAIRES, THAT THIS IS NOT A FORUM FOR SELECTION OF THEM THAT DAD'S PASSED AND THEY'RE ALREADY OPERATING.

SO IF THERE'S CONCERNS ABOUT THEIR OPERATION, THAT THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY THE FORUM TO BRING FORWARD THOSE CONCERNS.

I, I, MADAM CHAIR, I GOTTA AGREE, BECAUSE THE LAST ONE WE HAD, WE HAD PEOPLE COMPLAINING AND WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS, AND WHY ARE THEY DOING THAT? I'M JUST LIKE GOING, THIS WAS THIS OPERATOR'S TIME TO COME IN AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.

IF THEY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THAT, IT SHOULD BE BROUGHT UP ON ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM AT A FURTHER DATE THAN NOT ATTACKING.

UM, I, IT, IT JUST SEEMED ODD THAT PEOPLE WERE THERE TO ALMOST ATTACK THAT, THAT RESTAURANT THAT WAS THE ONE ON THE BEACH.

THE, YEAH.

AND I, I, I THINK WE NEED TO BE CLEAR IN WHAT OUR MOTION IS THAT WHAT WE'RE ACCEPTING AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REALLY TIGHTEN UP THE SCOPE OF THE PRESENTATION.

UM, AND THEN BE CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT WE RECEIVE FROM THEM BEFOREHAND.

YES.

BECAUSE THE WAY THAT THE I, THE ITEMS WERE PULLED AT THE LAST MINUTE.

CORRECT.

THE GENERAL PUBLIC WAS LEFT WITH THE PERCEPTION THAT WE WERE HIDING SOMETHING.

SURE.

UM, SO LET'S BE EXTRA CAREFUL IN MAKING SURE THEIR PRESENTATION'S PURE.

SURE.

AND LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE TALK ABOUT THE SCOPE OF THAT PRESENTATION IS THEIR STATUS ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

AND SO LET'S NOT OPEN THE DOOR, UH, TO REEVALUATING THEM AS A CONCESSION ERROR.

PUBLIC COMMENTS, PUBLIC COMMENT, PUBLIC COMMENTS, COME COMMENT.

BUT, AND THEY CAN ALWAYS HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

I'M SORRY, MADAM CHAIR, BUT YEAH, GO AHEAD.

IT, IT, IT IS THE QUESTIONS, IF THEY WANNA DO PUBLIC COMMENT, THAT'S FINE, BUT HE WAS ANSWERING QUESTIONS.

WE WERE ANSWERING QUESTIONS.

IT SHOULD JUST BE PUBLIC COMMENT THEN.

AND THEY WAIT TILL AFTER THAT PRESENTATION DONE.

UM, AND THEY CAN DO PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT NOT A BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE IT, IT WAS THAT'S AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR.

YEAH.

OKAY.

BUT, BUT WE HAD OPENED OURSELVES, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE, UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK HOW TO WORD THE CONCESSION REPORT.

UM, I THINK I'D LIKE TO NOTE IT ON OUR AGENDA.

WELL, IT'LL JUST BE, AGAIN, IT'LL BE WHAT YOU SAW AGAIN, THE, THE INITIAL PRESENTATION FROM, UM, UH, MONTY'S.

UH, YES.

IT

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HAD ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT WE PULLED PRIOR TO THE MEETING JUST DUE TO CITY POLICY.

OKAY.

AND SO MOVING, WE SHOULD HAVE REVIEWED THAT BEFORE WE POSTED IT THOUGH.

AND THAT'S WHAT LEFT THE BAD PERCEPTION, OF COURSE.

AND CITY STAFF, WE ERRED ON THAT AND WE CORRECTED IT.

IT, I COULD SEE IT HAPPENING.

SO I WASN'T, SAME THING WOULD'VE HAPPENED TO ME THAT YOU HAVE CONFIDENCE IN WHAT? IT'S JUST THIS PRESENTATION.

LET'S ADD IT TO THE PACKET, LET'S UPLOAD IT.

LET'S WORK ON AN EFFICIENT SCHEDULE.

YEAH.

AND, AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING, IS WE'RE WORKING, UM, ON THIS BATTLE RHYTHM TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE DISTRIBUTED AND THINGS ARE POSTED TIMELY.

CORRECT.

AND SOMETIME THAT, AND WE'VE NEVER IN THE PAST, NEEDED TO HAVE A REVIEW CYCLE BEFORE SOMETHING GOES ON THERE.

WELL, AGAIN, THAT'S REVIEWED BY CITY STAFF.

AND THAT WAS ON ME.

I, I MADE THAT REVIEW.

I PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.

AND AFTER CONSULTATION WITH OTHER CITY STAFF, HIGHER UP LEVELS, WE REMOVE THAT DUE TO CITY POLICY.

AND NOW WE KNOW THAT, AND WE WILL MAKE .

AND, AND THEN TO HAVE TO ADD ONE MORE STEP IN THAT PROCESS, THAT'S ALREADY A PRETTY ZEALOUS SCHEDULE.

MM-HMM .

AND I'M ALREADY DAZZLED BY WHAT THIS OFFICE DOES AND HOW QUICKLY THEY TURN THINGS AROUND.

YEAH.

I, I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE.

WHAT ARE WE JUST APPRECIATING THAT YOU'VE GOT, WELL, THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO RUN IT THROUGH SOME OTHER CITY STAFF THEN YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT STEP BEFORE.

WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S HOW IT OCCURRED.

AND IT WAS REVIEWED AND IT WAS PULLED.

THAT'S WHY.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

SO IT, IT, IT'S GOING TO GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS.

IT ALWAYS HAS.

UH, HOWEVER, LIKE I SAID THIS LAST, THIS PAST MEETING, UH, WE HAD TO PULL A ITEM FROM THE AGENDA JUST DUE TO CITY POLICY.

AND THEN, AND THEN THE, THE, THERE WAS NO NOTATION MADE ON THAT.

I, I JUST WANNA DO IT IN A WAY THAT IT'S, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE'RE HIDING ANYTHING, NOTHING TO HIDE.

AND THAT'S, THAT WAS THE PERCEPTION WE LEFT THE GENERAL PUBLIC WITH.

THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.

THAT'S PERCEPTION.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE WILL, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE ASK US, WE'LL SAY STAFF MADE AN ERROR IN ADDING IT TO THE, THE AGENDA.

AND WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FACT THAT TO PROTECT ALL PARTIES INVOLVED MM-HMM .

INCLUDING IGOR AND HIS BUSINESS, WE PULLED THE ITEM FROM THE AGENDA TO PROTECT HIM, THE PUBLIC, AND OUR PROCESSES MOVING FORWARD.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THAT? YEAH.

YEAH.

I JUST WANTED A POINT OF CLARIFICATION THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING THE FACT THAT THERE WAS A PROPOSAL IN THE ORIGINAL MATERIALS THAT WENT OUT.

'CAUSE I HAD PEOPLE COMING TO ME AND SAYING, UH, IS THERE A PROPOSAL TO TO BUILD OUT THE PIER? IS THIS, THERE IS THIS, THIS, THIS.

AND, UM, AGAIN, IT WAS, IT WAS, YES.

THAT'S, THAT'S A VISION OF IT WAS A VISION.

RIGHT.

IT'S A VISION OF WHAT THAT PARTICULAR WOULD LIKE TO DO IN THE FUTURE.

AND AGAIN, IT'S JUST A VISION.

ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS ON THE BEACH FRONT FROM A CONCESSION PROPRIETOR OPERATOR STANDPOINT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE CITY'S PUBLIC OPEN COMPETITIVE BID PROCESS.

AND TO PROTECT THAT PROCESS, WE PULLED THAT ITEM SO AS TO MAKE SURE THAT MOVING FORWARD, IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY IN THE FUTURE, THAT EVERYBODY HAS A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.

EXACTLY.

AND NOT JUST CITY COASTAL COMMISSION, BECAUSE WHEN IT GOES INTO PUBLIC, PUBLIC, PUBLIC BEACHES, THE COASTAL COMMISSION WOULD STILL HAVE ITS NAME ON IT.

YEAH.

AGAIN, IT STARTS, IT'S ALL PART THE PROCESS.

IT ALL STARTS WITH OUR OPEN COMPETITIVE BID PROCESS.

YEAH.

SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WHEN YOU INTRODUCE THIS, THAT YOU BRING THE POINT OF CLARIFICATION THAT YOU JUST, AND, AND I WANTED SOMETHING THAT'S ON THE AGENDA AS WELL, SO THAT, UM, MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC AREN'T THERE CHOMPING AT THE BIT.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

THAT THIS IS JUST A, JUST A ROUTINE REPORT, OR, AND THAT'S WHAT SEMI-ANNUAL REPORT, IT'S A CONCESSION STATUS REVIEW.

YEAH.

IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT.

THIS IS .

BUT AS WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE BIDDERS THAT ARE DISAPPOINTED THAT THEY DIDN'T GET THAT OPPORTUNITY.

AND SO I JUST WANNA BE READY AGAIN, PUBLIC COMMENT IS PUBLIC COMMENT.

OKAY.

PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO SAY WHAT THEY WANT, AND YOU CAN LOWER IT TO A MINUTE.

, YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, BUT IT IS, YOU'RE RIGHT.

BY READING, THE PUBLIC DOES HAVE THE, THERE WERE SOME CHANCES THAT FOLKS DIDN'T REALLY GET TO GET THEIR FEELINGS OUT ON IT.

AND THAT'S WHY I OPTED DURING THE MEETING TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME AND CUT A LITTLE BIT MORE SLACK.

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UM, AND I KNOW THAT THAT WAS TOUGH ON OUR CONCESSIONAIRE.

I, BUT I THINK HE, HE UNDERSTOOD HOW THAT HAPPENED.

I THINK IGOR HAD A GREAT PRESENTATION AND HE RESPONDED WELL TO EVERYTHING THAT CAME AT HIM.

I THINK HIS PRESENTATION WAS, WAS A HIGHLIGHT.

UH, YEAH.

YOU'RE ALWAYS GONNA HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE GONNA COME TO OPEN PUBLIC COMMISSIONS.

WELL, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE COMMISSIONS IS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SPEAK.

YEAH.

YEAH.

AND I BELIEVE THE, THE COMMENTS THAT WERE COMING FROM THAT, THAT SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL WERE MORE SO RELATED TO, TO REGULATORY PROCESS INSTEAD OF SPECIFICALLY TO IGOR.

UH, AND YOU KNOW, WHAT I CAN SAY IS GOING BACK TO 2018, MAYBE EVEN LATER THAN THAT 20 16, 20 17, THE PROCESS FOR GETTING THESE CONCESSIONS OPEN AND SELECTED WAS A HUNDRED PERCENT IN THE PUBLIC EYE.

THERE'S NOTIFICATIONS PLACED AT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO.

YEAH.

YOU'RE REQUIRED TO DO THESE THINGS TO GET A COASTAL PERMIT.

YOU'RE REQUIRED TO DO THESE THINGS FOR THE OPEN COMPETITIVE BID PROCESS.

I, I, I KNOW, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE STILL BEING CHALLENGED FROM THE, THE WINDSURFER THING.

WE'RE STILL GETTING PEOPLE THAT ARE HAVING DOUBT.

SO WE JUST WANNA REMOVE ALL OF THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE DOCUMENTED EVERYTHING THROUGH.

NO.

SO WE'LL RESEARCH SOME OF THAT.

YEAH.

THERE'S NO WAY TO MOVE ALL DOWN.

NO, YOU CAN'T.

AND THAT'S WHY THERE'S, THERE'S, BUT YOU NEED TO BE READY TO KNOW WHAT, WHAT'S, WHAT'S ANTICIPATED THERE AND HOW THAT BID PROCESS WORKED AND, AND HOW THE RESULTS WERE.

SURE.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS ON AGENDA ITEM TWO FOR OUR MEETING? I'M, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

MAYBE IF YOU CAN ASK THEM TO BRING SOME PICTURES OF THE FOOD AND STUFF, JUST SO WE HAVE THAT I, OH, I WAS ASKING FOR THE EMPANADAS, BUT, OKAY.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT, YEAH.

.

.

BUT I THINK THAT MAKES FOR A NICE THING TOO.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT, WE'RE ALL IN TUNE FOR, I, I'M A FOODIE, SO I LOOK AT ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE ONLINE, AND WHEN SOMEBODY COMES INTO THE MEETING AND SHOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING, UH, AND SHARES THEIR WEBSITE AND STUFF OF THAT NATURE, UH, I THINK THAT'S JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR HIM TO SHOWCASE WHAT HE'S DOING.

SO.

EXCELLENT.

AND IN FULL DISCLOSURE, ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF THE GALSO GRILL, WHO'S NOW MORE INTO THE GALA BUSINESS, KURT, IAN, I BABYSAT FOR, SO OH, WOW.

.

SO I HAVE A DEFINITE CONNECTION WITH THE RESTAURANT.

UM, MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM THREE, THE MANAGER'S MONTHLY ORAL UPDATES.

WHAT ARE SOME HIGHLIGHTS THAT WE'LL BE HEARING THERE? UM, ANOTHER LAUNDRY GARDEN, UH, IMPLEMENTATION OVER HERE IN ALAMEDA BAY.

UH, WE STARTED, THE, THE MURAL PROJECT IS, IS WELL UNDERWAY, UH, DOWNTOWN AT SHORELINE.

UM, IT'S LOOKING REALLY GREAT.

UM, IT'S ACTUALLY, I, I WAS WORRIED THAT IT MAY, MAY HAVE BEEN A LITTLE TOO BUSY, UH, LIKE FROM THE, THE INITIAL VISUALS, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, DESIGNS.

BUT IT, IT LOOKS FANTASTIC DOWN THERE.

IT REALLY KIND OF TIES IN WITH THE, THE LANDSCAPE, THE WATER.

IT LOOKS GREAT.

UM, WE FINISHED ANOTHER TRASH ENCLOSURE, UH, DOWNTOWN.

UH, SO LOCKED UP ANOTHER VERY PROBLEMATIC, UH, TRASH ENCLOSURE DOWN BY, ACTUALLY DOWN BY GAUCHO BEACH, THAT END OF THE PARKING LOT.

UM, SO KIND OF MARCHING THROUGH THAT PROJECT, UM, I'M GONNA TRY TO POST, SO IS IT IN THAT ACTUAL LOT THERE? MM-HMM .

IT'S IN THE BOAT LOT.

SO IT'S, IT'S THE ONE THE FURTHEST EAST IN THAT, IN THAT LOT.

LIKE, SO WHERE THERE'S, THERE'S A RESTROOM, UH, YES.

AND THEN YOU KIND OF COME AROUND THE CORNER AND THEN BIKE RENTALS, GAUCHO BEACH, IT'S ALL KINDA LIKE RIGHT.

OKAY.

RIGHT IN THAT SECTION.

SO THAT, NO, I JUST WANTED TO GO LOOK AT IT.

YEAH.

THAT LINE, IT'S NOT PAINTED YET, SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO KIND OF EASILY SEE WHICH ONE IT IS.

IT'S JUST, OKAY.

THAT'S STILL A BARE METAL, UH, BUT HAS THE MECHANICAL LOCK ON IT.

LIKE THE OTHER ONE WE DID, UM, PEEKED IN THERE YESTERDAY.

THAT'S, IT'S LIKE NICE AND CLEAN.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO.

SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT PROJECT AND KEEPING IT MOVING FORWARD.

UM, AND KIND OF IN, IN CONCERT, IN COMBINATION WITH THAT.

WE DID WORK TO KEEP OPEN OUR PUBLIC RESTROOM BY THE FISHING PIERS.

UM, 'CAUSE THAT'S BEEN ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BIG ISSUE IS USING OF THOSE TRASH AREAS FOR A RESTROOM, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE PUBLIC RESTROOMS, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF ISSUES KEEPING THAT OPEN BECAUSE OF ILLICIT ACTIVITIES.

VANDALISM, UH, ONCE THAT BACKS UP IN THE, IN THE MAIN LINE IN THE PITS, IT BACKS THE WHOLE LINEUP, WHICH CAUSES A, A HUGE ORDEAL.

UM, WE, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO OPEN THAT UP SUCCESSFULLY AGAIN.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF, OF THOSE ISSUES BY HAVING THE PUBLIC RESTROOM BACK, UH, CLOSING UP THE TRASH CANS SO PEOPLE AREN'T GOING THROUGH IT.

UM, IT'S A REALLY GOOD PROCESS.

AND THEN WHAT ARE THE HOURS THAT THE RESTROOM IS OPEN? THAT ONE IS, IS 24 7.

THAT ONE'S, IT'S JUST OPEN.

UM, SO IT'S, I THINK,

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YOU KNOW, MARINE PATROL IS DOING A GOOD JOB OF KIND OF KEEPING TABS ON IT, MAKING SURE THERE'S NO ILLICIT ACTIVITY.

UH, CUSTODIAL IS DOING A FANTASTIC JOB OF KEEPING IT CLEAN AND USABLE.

UM, WHAT ELSE WE GOT GOING? WE GOT THE, THE DOCK PROJECT, UH, STARTING BACK OVER AT, UH, MARINE MAINTENANCE.

UH, STARTED YESTERDAY.

YEAH.

TWO DAYS AGO.

LIKE, SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A, A LAY DOWN YARD AT DAVIES THAT YOU'LL SEE, UH, WITH THE WINDSCREEN YEAH.

AND THE MASSIVE CRANE THAT'S THERE AT DAVIES DAVIESS.

YES.

THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S GOTTA BE PART OF LIKE THE, THE DOC LAUNCH PROJECT, RIGHT? YEAH.

YEAH.

SO JUST TO LAUNCH ALL THE EQUIPMENT, UH, MOVE AROUND THE .

SO ARE WE LIMITING THE, UM, LAUNCH USE WITH THAT AT ALL? NO, THAT HAS NO IMPACT TO OUR CUSTOMERS.

NO.

I MEAN, THERE, THERE'S STILL, THERE'S STILL FULL ACCESS.

OBVIOUSLY IT'S, IT'S TAKING UP A, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE SECTION IN THERE.

UM, AND AS THEY'RE MOVING AROUND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, SLIGHT, YOU KNOW, SLIGHT INTERRUPTION IN, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY LANES OF, YOU KNOW, LAWN RAMP ARE ACCESSIBLE, BUT IT, IT WILL REMAIN OPEN.

UM, THE CEMENT IS DONE WITH, WITH TODD.

DID THEY FINISH ALL THE CEMENT? YEAH, THEY HAD, THAT'S WHY IT WAS DELAYED.

SO NOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE BACK ON TRACK.

THAT'S GREAT.

YOU KNOW, UH, THEY HAD A, A CEMENT POUR ISSUE WITH THE PREVIOUS RIGHT.

UH, DOCK STRUCTURE STRUCTURE.

AND SO THEY HAD TO GO BACK AND REDO SOME THINGS TO PASS, UH, UH, LIKE STRUCTURAL, STRUCTURAL TESTING.

YEAH.

YEAH.

PICTURES.

YOU'LL HAVE PICTURES, I'M SURE OF ALL THAT.

YEAH.

WE'LL GET, WE'LL GET PICTURES.

UH, YOU KNOW, THE GUY LIKE COREY KELLY, I'VE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB OF THAT, THAT NEW REPORT, LIKE REALLY SHOWING KIND OF BEFORE AND AFTER.

SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S INCLUDED IN THERE.

UM, THIS ONE, I'M NOT GONNA, WE'RE GONNA, LIKE, I GOT JEALOUS OF OPERATIONS NOT HAVING PICTURES, SO NOT THIS ONE, BUT, UH, THE FOLLOWING, WE'RE GONNA START DOING SOME PICTURES, RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, WITH OUR EOS COAST GUARD INSPECTIONS ON THE DOCKS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF HIGHLIGHTING LIKE, SOME OF THOSE ACTIVITIES.

UM, THERE'S NOT AS MUCH TO SHOW BEFORE AND AFTER WITH, WITH OPERATIONS, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DO SPECIAL EVENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY LIKE THE LIVE BOARD STUFF, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HIGHLIGHTING THAT IN THE REPORTS.

UM, WORKING ON, I'M GONNA TRY TO HAVE A PICTURE AND A MOCKUP OF THE DOT CART LOCKUP STATIONS THAT WE'RE DOING.

UM, CEDRIC'S PUTTING THE FINAL TOUCHES ON THAT.

UM, WE ALL KNOW THAT THOSE, THOSE DOT CARTS TEND TO HAVE A MIND OF THEIR OWN.

YES.

OR, UH, YOU KIND OF WANDER AROUND.

SO TRYING TO, TRYING TO LIMIT HOW MANY OF THOSE WE'RE LOSING, UH, KEEP THEM IN SPACES WHERE BOATERS CAN ACTUALLY ACCESS 'EM.

HOW DO WE, HOW WOULD WE TARGET, YOU CAN'T GO WITH LOWE'S.

YOU CAN'T GO FARTHER THAN THE FARTHEST POINT OF THE LOWE'S PARKING LOT WITH A CAR, AND IT JUST LOCKS.

YOU CAN'T DO IT.

IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT WITH, UH, SHOPPING CART TECHNOLOGY? YEAH.

YEAH.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THAT'S A LOT OF INSTALLATION AND A LOT OF STUFF WITHIN THE PARKING LOTS.

YEAH.

BUT THE COST FACTOR OF THOSE, I MEAN, WHAT IS IT 600 A PIECE OR THERE IT IS ABOUT 2 50, 300 A PIECE KIND OF DEPEND ON, ON LIKE THE, THE QUANTITY BOUGHT AND LIKE THE PRICE BREAKS ON IT.

UM, THAT, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING LIKE THESE, THESE LOCKING STANDS FIRST.

OKAY.

UM, AND I THINK THAT IN COMBINATION WITH OUR INITIATIVE TO ACTUALLY SECURE THE GATES, UH, PUT BIGGER SECURITY GATES IN.

UM, SO IT'S NOT, I KNOW IT'S CRAZY.

RIGHT? WOW.

, UH, YEAH.

SO WE'RE LIKE, THAT WAS PART OF LIKE FY 26 IS, IS LOOKING AT, UM, YOU KNOW, SECTIONING OFF AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WORKING THROUGH THE ALAMEDA BAY FOOTPRINT.

GREAT.

TO START PUTTING IN, UH, MORE ROBUST GATES.

UM, YOU, AND THEN AS THE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE NETWORK COMES THROUGH WITH CAMERAS, YOU KNOW, THEN THERE'S ALSO SOMETHING, AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT KEY FOBS LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, IN THAT AREA.

WELL, UNDERSTANDING THE GATES, UH, AND, AND, AND WALKING AROUND, UM, BY LAW, I MEAN, HAVING THE TRESPASSING SIGN ON THE GATES, UM, PEOPLE SAY, WELL, THEY'RE SO LOW.

AND I SAY, YEP, THE TRESPASSING SIGN IS, WHICH MEANS YOU CAN'T TRESPASS.

AND IF YOU'RE CAUGHT ON IT AND YOU DON'T HAVE A BOAT, GUESS WHAT? NOW YOU'RE TRESPASSING.

JUST LIKE PEOPLE ARE, ARE NOW.

CALIFORNIA STATE LAW IS PUT A TRESPASSING SIGN ON YOUR GATE AT HOME IF PEOPLE ARE GOING IN AND OUT OF IT.

IF YOU HAVE A TRESPASSING SIGN ON IT, THEY COULD BE ARRESTED IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT.

MM.

INTERESTING.

HOW THE LAWS WORK, BUT COOL.

UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK.

ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER HIGHLIGHTS? THE PAINT, I THINK THE PAINT OF THE NEW, UH, THE RESTROOMS. I GOTTA TELL YOU, THAT OUTSTANDING JOB OVER THERE OFF OF, UH, UH, MARINE.

UH, YEAH, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT LAST YEAR.

YEAH.

KIND OF ACROSS FROM LIKE THE WHOLE FOODS.

YEAH.

YEAH.

LIKE THAT, THAT, UH, WENT BY AND LOOKED AT IT.

8 32, THAT GRAY AND THE, AND THE BRONZE OR WHATEVER THE, THE, THE WOOD COCO RUM, COCO RUM TURNED OUT JUST CORUM, COCO RUM, JUST STELLAR.

LOVED IT.

LOVED IT.

AND IT GIVES A GOOD VISUAL IT, YEAH.

IT BRINGS IT INTO, UH, LIKE MORE OF LIKE A MODERN ERA LIKE SCHEME.

YEAH.

LIKE, IT, IT WAS, WE HAD A VERY, VERY DATED, UH, PALETTE.

SEVENTIES.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO, UM, THE GUYS ARE FINISHING UP JUST TOUCHUPS ON THAT LOCATION, UH, THIS

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WEEK.

AND THEN, UH, THEY'LL START WORKING OUT INTO THE LOT, UH, PAINTING THE, UH, THE, UM, THE TRASH ENCLOSURES, RIGHT.

AND THE, UH, THE POWER, UH, THE S SE POWER, UH, BOXES.

BOXES.

MM-HMM .

SO IT'S JUST CARRYING THAT, UH, PALLET OUT INTO THE LOT FROM THERE.

AND THEN JUST THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS REALLY TO, WHEN PEOPLE TURN ONTO MARINA DRIVE AND THEY LOOK FROM RIGHT TO LEFT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY LOOK AT THE WATER, THEY LOOK AT THE BOATS, THEY LOOK AT THE, A LOT, THEY LOOK ACROSS THE STREET AT, UH, SECOND AND PCH, THEY SEE A RHYTHM, THEY SEE A THEME, THEY SEE THOUGHT IT ALL, IT ALL BLENDS.

IT ALL BLENDS VERY NICELY.

THAT'S THE KEY.

SO, SO WILL, WILL WE BE TALKING REPORT? DEFINITELY.

WILL WE BE TALKING ABOUT, UH, ON THIS, I DON'T SEE IT ON THE AGENDA, MADAM CHAIR, BUT THE POSSIBILITY OF THE BEAUTIFICATION OF THOSE TOO, UH, ON THE, THE BACKSIDE OF THE MURALS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

WILL THAT COME UP THIS MEETING OR ANOTHER MEETING OR, YEAH, WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THAT.

OKAY.

JUST GETTING, YOU KNOW, CITY, CITY PERMISSIONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

OKAY.

BUT, UH, YES, WE ARE LOOKING AT A POTENTIAL OF PUTTING A WRAP, NOT NECESSARILY A ART MURAL, BUT A REPROGRAPHIC, UM, ON THE BACKSIDE, OR I WOULDN'T, I DON'T WANNA CALL IT THE BACKSIDE, THE MARINA FACING SIDE.

RIGHT.

UH, OF THESE, UH, UH, BOAT OWNER STRUCTURES, BECAUSE IT'S A, JUST A LARGE BLANK WALL.

AND SO, UH, JUST, YOU KNOW, ELEVATING THE, THE SPACE PLACEMAKING, HOW COOL IT LOOKED WHEN THEY FILMED DEXTER WITH THAT WRAP.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

YEAH.

I DIDN'T WANT THEM TO TAKE THAT OFF.

YEAH.

THAT LOOKS SO GOOD.

SO WE'RE LOOKING, WE'RE LOOKING AT UTILIZING THOSE WITH SOME, UH, GRAPHIC WRAPS.

IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE ART, YOU KNOW, LIKE A MURALIST IS NOT KIND OF A GRAPHIC MORE THAN YEAH.

A GRAPHIC.

YEAH.

YEAH.

AND SO, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF PLACEMAKING, SOMETHING AS YOU'RE WALKING ALONG THERE, YOU CAN STOP AND GO, OH, WOW.

UH, THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

PICTURE TIME.

WELL, SPEAKING OF DEXTER, WHAT ARE THEY FILMING RIGHT NOW? YEAH, IT'S GOING ON.

APPLE, APPLE TV, UM, SERIES.

WHAT'S IT CALLED? DON'T SAY IT.

YEAH.

I'M NOT, YEAH.

BUT WRITTEN THING.

YEAH.

BRUCE'S PLACE.

YEAH.

I'M KIDDING.

.

IT'S A COMPLETE SPOT, ISN'T IT? NOT SURE.

YEAH.

I'LL HAVE TO, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO IT.

THEY TOOK THAT WHOLE, AND I JUST GONNA SAY, THE VOTER NEWS MUST JUST BE HAVING OUR GRAND OLD TIME, BECAUSE IT'S ALMOST HALF OF THAT WHOLE PARKING LOT.

YOU KNOW, THEY STILL, THEY STILL HAVE THE, LIKE THE, THE FRONT ROWS.

THEY DO.

WE, WE WERE, YEAH.

AND WE WERE, WE WERE CONSCIENTIOUS AND DROVE THROUGH IT LOOKED GOOD, LOOKED LIKE, IT LOOKED LIKE IF I WAS A BONE OWNER, I WOULDN'T BE UPSET.

OKAY.

AND LET'S DRIVE IT ON OUR WAY BACK.

YEAH.

SO EACH ONE OF US CAN WITNESS THAT AS A BOAT OWNER ON ANY GANGWAY THAT YOU'D STILL FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT YOU COULD GET YOUR GEAR TO THE BOAT.

GREAT.

OKAY.

AND WE, WE WERE, YOU KNOW, CONSCIOUS, IT'S, IT'S PAST LABOR DAY NOW, AND IT'S ALSO THIS SHOOT WRAPS, UH, THIS EVENING.

OH, IT'S FINE.

YOU BREAK DOWN TOMORROW.

SO IT'S, IT WON'T BE IMPACTING THE WEEKEND, LIKE FLOW OF TRAFFIC COMING IN.

GREAT.

ALONG WITH COMPOUNDED WITH THE MARATHON.

IT DOESN'T MAKE IT EASY.

YEAH.

BRIAN WORKS REALLY HARD WITH OUR SPECIAL EVENTS, UH, GREAT OFFICE AND FILMING TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT THEY'RE DOING, WHEN THEY'RE DOING IT AND HOW THEY'RE DOING IT, UH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GONNA BE IMPACTS, BUT WE MITIGATE THOSE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

UH, I'LL, I'LL SAY THIS AND MADAM CHAIR, IT STILL WORRIES ME.

'CAUSE I COME DOWN HERE A NUMBER OF TIMES DURING THE WEEK.

UM, THE BIKE RIDER'S GOING UP, MARINA DRIVE ON THAT SIDE, UH, THAT LITERALLY GET CRAMPED IN.

I MEAN, ONE GUY WAS A, IT WAS A MOVING TRUCK THAT THERE WAS NO WAY FOR THIS, THE GUY TO GO, AND THEY WERE JUST LOOKING DOWN ALL OF A SUDDEN THE GUY DID.

OOH.

YOU KNOW, LOOK, I MEAN, IT WAS THE, THE SPEED RIDERS OR WHATEVER, THE, THE, THE VELO GUYS AND GIRLS.

BUT, BUT ONCE AGAIN, DRIVE IT SLOW AND LOOK AT WHERE THE SIGNAGE ARE.

IF YOU WERE ON A BICYCLE, AND YOU CAN SEE THE WARNING IS NOW A LITTLE BIT MORE IN ADVANCE.

YEAH.

FINALLY PASSED, PASSED THAT.

YES.

YEAH.

UM, SO THERE'S A CHANCE FOR THEM TO, UM, TURN AROUND WELL, UH, SEEK ALTERNATIVE.

YEAH.

ALTERNATIVE.

YEAH.

UM, PUBLIC WORKS, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

I WOULD JUST LOVE TO SEE ONE AT THE BEGINNING OF MARINE.

THIS FYI, YOU KNOW, THE ROAD DOES SHUT DOWN.

I MEAN, MAKE PEOPLE, IT'S KIDS AND, AND, AND, AND KIDS ON BIKES, AND THEY DON'T READ UNTIL THEY GET CLOSE TO IT.

THEN IT'S LIKE GOING, OH, NO.

YEAH.

WHAT DO YOU DO? I MEAN, SO IT'S JUST THAT, THAT ALWAYS WORRIES ME.

UM, NO, WELL DONE ON THE, UH, UH, UH, TODD TOOK ME OUT ON A LITTLE BOAT RIDE AND, AND LOOKING AT THE, THE PAINTING OF THE, UH, THE JETTIES AND STUFF OF THAT NATURE, THE ROCKS AND KEEPING THOSE, IT'S THE CLEANEST I'VE SEEN.

THERE'S STILL PAINT ON IT.

YEAH.

UM, BUT IT'S THE CLEANEST I'VE

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SEEN IN A LONG TIME.

SO IT WAS, UH, UH, YEAH.

IT MAKES YOU SMILE WHEN PEOPLE COME DOWN THAT JETTY.

UH, IT LOOKS PRETTY CLEAN.

YEAH.

WE GOT A GREAT, GREAT MAINTENANCE GROUP RIGHT NOW, AND THEY, THEY KEEP FILLING THE, THE HOLES, LIKE FINDING SOME REALLY GREAT PEOPLE TO ADD IN.

SO IT'S, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE IN A GOOD CLIP RIGHT NOW.

UM, COUPLE OTHER THINGS.

I, TWO OTHER THINGS I THOUGHT OF, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I MENTIONED.

UM, GUYS ARE OBVIOUSLY IN FULL SWING ON, UH, THE TREES IN THE BAY, WHICH IS ALMOST HARD TO BELIEVE.

BUT WE ARE IN OCTOBER, I GUESS.

UM, AND THEN, UH, THE BOAT OWNERS ASSOCIATION IS HOSTING TWO MEETINGS WITH, UH, THE DIFFERENT DIVISIONS FOR PD.

UM, SO ON OCTOBER 22ND, IT'S GONNA BE DOWNTOWN AT SHORELINE.

IT'S GONNA BE AN EVENING MEETING, UH, MEETING WITH THE, UM, THE COMMANDER FOR THE SOUTH DIVISION.

UH, AND THEN THEY'RE DOING, PLANNING ANOTHER EVENT IN EARLY NOVEMBER.

UH, I BELIEVE IT'S THE SIXTH, BUT I GOTTA, WE GOTTA DOUBLE CHECK ON THE DATE.

UM, AND THAT'LL BE DOWN HERE AT SEAL BEACH, UH, TO GIVE FOLKS ON THIS SIDE OF TOWN THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET THE, UH, THE EAST DIVISION, UH, PD AND MAYBE SEAL BEACH PD SINCE I JUST THOUGHT NO, NO.

UH, THE FIRE, THE BOAT FIRE.

ANY REPORT ON THAT? UM, STILL WAITING TO HEAR SOME MORE DETAILS.

UM, IT'S THAT ONE RIGHT THERE.

UH, PRETTY SAD.

IT'S A VERY GORGEOUS, UH, SAILBOAT.

UM, LUCKILY THAT THE, IT WAS CAUGHT EARLY.

UM, EARLY REPORTS WERE THAT WAS THAT IT WAS SOME TYPE OF AN ELECTRICAL FIRE.

UH, SOMEBODY FROM A FEW DOCKS DOWN SMELLED IT AND CAME AND ACTUALLY STARTED TO PUT IT OUT UNTIL THE LIFEGUARD SHOWED UP.

UM, VERY MINIMAL DAMAGE TO EISING GLASS ON ONE OF THE ADJACENT VESSELS.

UH, THE OTHER BOAT HAD SOME, THERE'S ANOTHER, LIKE AN OLDER RACING SAILBOAT NEXT TO IT THAT HAD SOME BURNT FIBERS, UH, I THINK FROM THE CANVAS THAT KIND OF WENT UP IN THE WIND, UH, BUT DID NOT LOOK TO HAVE ANY STRUCTURAL DAMAGE.

SO, REALLY LUCKY, UM, ON HOW FAST EVERYBODY RESPONDED.

UH, THAT'S GREAT.

AND THE TEAMS WE HAVE IN PLACE, UM, WATER, THE BOAT'S STILL WATERTIGHT.

I'M SURE IT'S GOING THROUGH THE INSURANCE, YOU KNOW, INVESTIGATION PROCESS.

NOW.

WE'LL FIGURE OUT KIND OF WHAT, WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED.

BUT YEAH, I MEAN, JUST A, YOU KNOW, REMINDER OF HOW, HOW FAST THINGS CAN HAPPEN AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE RIGHT TEAM IN PLACE AND YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY ON, ON THE RIGHT PAGE.

YEAH.

KUDOS FOR WORKING THAT QUICK.

YEAH.

LOOK AT ALL THOSE TOGETHER.

I MEAN, IT'S LIKE TOWN HOMES.

YEAH.

AND IT'S THE, THE FIBER, THE WAY THE FIBERGLASS BURNS.

LIKE, IT'S ONCE THAT THING STARTS AND IT, IT DOESN'T GET ADDRESSED QUICKLY, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A BAD DAY.

YEAH.

ANY OTHER HIGHLIGHTS OF THE MANAGER'S MONTHLY ORAL UPDATES? YOU BROUGHT YOUR TWO SONS TODAY, .

I DID.

I DID.

THEY ARE, UH, OUT OF SCHOOL, UH, TODAY AND TOMORROW.

MY WIFE IS ON THE EAST COAST FOR WORK STILL, SO I AM, UH, I CAN'T SAY DADDY DAYCARE 'CAUSE THAT'S, I GET, I GET IN TROUBLE WHEN I SAY THAT, BUT I, I HAVE MY KIDS TODAY .

THEY'RE SHADOWING YOU, RIGHT? WHERE ARE THEY AT? THEY'RE IN THE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UH, IN, ARE THEY IN TODD'S IN TODD'S OFFICE.

OKAY.

LIKE, TRYING TO BREAK AT LEAST 10 THINGS.

THERE YOU GO.

I HAVE THEM.

I HAVE THEM RESPONDING TO EMAILS.

THERE YOU GO.

.

ARE THEY TEENS? UH, THEY, MY LITTLE GUY SHUT UP PRETTY QUICK.

SO MY LITTLE GUY'S NINE.

I JUST TURNED NINE.

AND THEN HIS OLDER BROTHER JACK IS 11 AND A HALF.

OH, THAT'S GREAT.

YEAH.

GOOD TIME.

ARE WE GOING TO DO ANY, UH, PRESENTATIONS IN REGARDS TO CERTIFICATES? MM-HMM .

UH, THIS WE ARE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

UH, MARINE MAINTENANCE, UH, HAS, UH, COURT FORESTER WILL PRESENTING, UH, ONE OF HIS NEWER STAFF.

NEWER STAFF.

STAFF, YEAH.

NEWER STAFF.

BEEN SPOT ON.

GREAT.

COME IN AND JUST REALLY, REALLY ELEVATED, UH, SOME OF THE WORK WE'RE DOING.

UM, RO ROSCOE.

ROSCOE.

MM-HMM.

YEP.

ANYBODY FROM THE CITY? UH, LAST TIME WE TALKED, WE WERE HOPING TO HAVE SOMEONE, I THINK IT'S MADAM CHAIR.

I THINK IT, IT, MAYBE IT'S OUR NOVEMBER MEETING, UH, REGARDING LIFEGUARDS AND THE, UH, UH, THE WRAPS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

WE ASKED THEM TO COME BACK TO US.

YEAH.

THEY, UH, WE WERE HOPING THAT THEY'D COME BACK THIS MONTH, UNFORTUNATELY.

UH, JUST THEY DON'T HAVE A, A MEATY ENOUGH UPDATE RIGHT NOW, SO WE PUSHED IT BACK TO NOVEMBER.

OKAY.

I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE MORE IDEAL FOR THE REQUESTED NIGHTTIME MEETING.

OKAY.

AND I BELIEVE THE LETTER GOT SOME, UH, I THINK THINK WE'LL PUT THAT WITH THE COMMITTEE STATUS.

PUT THAT ON NINE, THE LETTER ITEM FOUR.

OKAY.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE STILL ITEM ANYTHING ELSE ON ITEM THREE? THE MANAGER SAINTS.

GOT IT.

RIGHT.

ANY OTHER THINGS WE WE'RE LOOKING FOR STATUS ON OR NO.

ENCOURAGE THAT.

GOOD.

YEAH.

OKAY.

POLICE REPORT.

I MEAN, I WOULD LOVE, WE LOVE HEARING THE, UH, THE INFORMATION ON HOW MANY CITATIONS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

THEY'VE DONE THAT THE LAST TWO MEETINGS, WHICH IS GREAT.

YEAH.

WHEN THEY CAN, I KNOW THAT'S ON STAFF AVAILABILITY.

OKAY.

SO ITEM THREE, EVERYONE WE'VE ALL APPROVED.

YES, MA'AM.

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AND, UM, ITEM FOUR.

SO WE HAVE THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND THEN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE STATUS.

UH, THEN WE HAVE A STATUS REPORT, UM, REGARDING THE ER, F YES.

I KNOW YOU MISSED THE LAST MEETING ON THAT.

UM, BUT THAT'S REALLY, UM, IN A GOOD PLACE THAT IT'S NOW NARROWED DOWN TO, TO TWO LOCATIONS BETWEEN THE, UH, AQUARIUM AND THE BREAKERS.

UH, AND THEY'RE STILL, UM, PRETTY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT USING BRONZE.

SO THAT'S GONNA NEED TO BE SOMEWHERE THAT'S GONNA BE PROTECTED FROM THE CONTINGENT OF FOLKS THAT ENJOY RECYCLING.

UH, SO WE'LL HAVE A COMMITTEE REPORT FROM THEM, AND THEN LET'S, LET'S CONSIDER IT A COMMITTEE REPORT ON THE LETTER THAT WE COULD HAVE AVIS REPORT THROUGH.

GREAT.

UM, AND I KNOW SHE'S HOPING TO HEAR SOMETHING FROM, UM, MORE OF AN EXPLANATION FROM HAN'S OFFICE.

OKAY.

UH, SO IF WE HEAR ANYTHING ELSE THAT, THAT SOMEONE IS, IS COMING FROM HAN'S OFFICE OR SOME REPRESENTATION WILL NEED THAT, AND I, I'D LIKE TO PUT THAT UNDER COMMITTEE STATUS REPORTS AND THEN THE FINANCES IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING THAT SURE.

CORRECT.

THAT DAY, CORRECT.

MM-HMM .

MM-HMM .

AND, UH, THEN ON TIDELANDS OR ANY OTHER REPORTS ON THAT? I KNOW WE HEARD A REPORT FROM CHARLENE LAST MONTH, UM, BUT I KNOW THE POOLS GOING BEFORE COASTAL COMMISSION ON THE EIGHTH, UM, WITH SOME DESCOPING THAT'S TAKING PLACE THERE.

UH, ANY OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF, KIND OF FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER? MADAM CHAIR, I, I'D LIKE TO ASK, WHAT'S THE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO RAISE MONEY IN THE MARINA? I MEAN, I, I, I LOOK AT, DOES EVERYBODY PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE? DOES EVERYBODY, UM, AND I KNOW I, I KNOW IT'S A TOUGH ONE TO DO, BUT IS ARE EVERY BOAT OWNER PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE AREA? OR IS THERE SOME THINGS THAT, WELL, IF WE DO THAT, UH, WE MAY, YOU KNOW, GET A LOT OF HEAT FROM THE CITY.

UM, I LOOK AT THE NEW DOCKS, I LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, NEW DOCKS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN, UH, HOAS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

WELL, THEY PAY A SEAWALL FEE.

YEAH.

AND AS THEY'RE, AS THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, RE REDONE, UH, THEY FALL INTO THE NEW, LIKE SEAWALL LEASE PERMIT.

RIGHT.

SO WE, YOU KNOW, SO THE, THE BIG ONE THAT'S GOING IN NOW, LIKE WILL BE LIKE, ONCE THAT'S COMPLETED WILL FALL INTO THE NEW, THE NEW PROGRAM, WHICH DOES INCREASE REVENUE SITES.

AND IT'S THE SIZE OF THE BOAT TOO.

IT'S NOT JUST THE DOCK, CORRECT.

IT'S, IT'S THE, THE OVER THE OVER WATER COVERAGE.

YEP.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE GOING, YOU KNOW, FOUR FEET OUT FROM THE DOCKS AND CREATING THAT, THAT FOOTPRINT OF THE SPACE USED.

OKAY.

SO IT'S, IT'S EVERYTHING FROM SEA WALL, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE OFFSET OUT TO LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, THE OVERHANG LIMIT FOR, FOR THE VESSEL.

OKAY.

AND THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S THE CALCULATION FOR, UH, SQUARE FOOTAGE.

OKAY.

AND THEY'RE ALSO PAYING PERSONAL POSSESSORY INTEREST TAX TO THE GOVERNMENT.

AND WE'RE LOOKING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT THE STAFF'S DOING.

SO LIKE THIS YEAR WE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE REWRITES FOR BOATS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BASICALLY CREATING A NEW PERMIT AND WE MADE SURE TO, YOU KNOW, THROUGH FEE CHANGES THIS YEAR TO ADD THAT INTO THE ADMINISTRATIVE LIKE VERBIAGE.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE RECOVERING THOSE COSTS.

UM, I THINK WE DO A, A GOOD JOB OF LOOKING AT, UH, MARKET SURVEY FOR RENT.

SO LIKE AS WE'RE PROPOSING RENTS FOR THE YEAR, UH, FOR THE RECREATIONAL SLIPS, UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE WHAT, WHAT ELSE IS OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, STACKING OUR, OUR RATES INTO THAT, INTO THAT MIX.

UM, I THINK WE'RE GOING AFTER, YOU KNOW, EVENTS AND LIKE HOW WE CAN, HOW WE CAN GAIN, GAIN FUNDS FROM DIFFERENT SPECIAL EVENTS HAPPENING IN OUR FOOTPRINT.

YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S RENTING ADDITIONAL DOCK SPACE, IF IT'S PARKING SPACE, YOU KNOW, REALLY LOOKING AT, AT ALL AVENUES TO BOOST REVENUE WITHIN OUR FOOTPRINT WITH THE, I I KNOW WITH THE ENTERTAINMENT SIDE OF WHAT THEY'RE PAYING RIGHT NOW.

BECAUSE ALL THAT WHOLE AREA'S, YOU KNOW, LOCKED IN.

DOES THE MARINE DEPARTMENT GET ANY OF THOSE FUNDS? DOES IT GO TO THE GENERAL FUND OF THE CITY? WE, WE DO GET A PERCENTAGE OF IT.

I, I DON'T KNOW THE, THE, THE SPLIT.

YEAH.

SO THE, THEY, THEY PAY THEIR FEES TO SPECIAL EVENTS AND FILMING AND THEN SPECIAL EVENTS AND FILMING BREAKS OUT THE COSTS, YOU KNOW, OKAY.

HEY, THESE ARE YOUR PERMIT FEES.

THIS IS YOUR, YOUR FILM FILMING FEES.

BUT THEN, OKAY, YOU USE THIS MUCH SPACE IN THE MARINAS AND THEY, THAT'S SEPARATE AND THEY, YOU KNOW, YOU WILL GET FUNDING ON THAT THAT'LL COME

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TO, BUT ANY FILMING THAT'S DONE DOWN IN THIS AREA, IT GOES INTO THE TITLES FUND.

SO IT, IT ALL ENDS UP COMING BACK INTO THE TITLES.

YEAH.

OKAY.

FROM OUR, UM, HIRING PRACTICES, I THINK WE HAVE A REALLY HEALTHY MIX OF, UM, PROMOTING FROM WITHIN AS WELL AS, UM, FINDING FOLKS FROM OTHER AREAS.

AND I THINK THAT'S ONE ADVANTAGE THAT BRIAN BRINGS TO US, UM, COMING FROM OUTSIDE THE CITY OF LONG BEACH IS SOME OF THE BENCHMARKING AND SOME OF THE EXPERIENCES IN OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HE'S BROUGHT TO US, ALONG WITH THE TRIBAL KNOWLEDGE THAT TODD HAS, UM, FROM ESSENTIALLY GROWING UP WITHIN OUR, OUR MARINE AREA.

SO IT'S, IT'S A NICE HEALTHY MIX THAT WE'RE REALLY FORTUNATE TO HAVE.

LOVE BEING HERE.

AND MADAM CHAIR, I'D JUST LIKE TO ASK, AND I GOT A CALL FROM TWO FRIENDS.

ARE WE EVER GOING TO, AND MAYBE IT'S TO DOD, ARE WE EVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MEETINGS BACK AT ANY OF THE YACHT CLUBS SO THE YACHT CLUB MEMBERS CAN FEEL COMFORTABLE COMING BACK? UM, AND, UH, SEEING OUR MEETINGS OTHER THAN REC PARK, IT'S REALLY UP TO THE COMMISSIONERS.

OKAY.

I, IT'S UP THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE COMMISSION CHAIRS.

SO IT, WHERE WE MEET IS REALLY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE COMMISSION.

OKAY.

HOWEVER, IT DOES HAVE TO BE IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH.

RIGHT.

GOT IT.

YEAH.

SO THAT'S, YEAH, IT'S REALLY AND, AND I LIKE WHEN WE MEET IN DIFFERENT VENUES AND WHEN WE GO HEADING TOWARDS DOWNTOWN, UM, SO THAT WE'RE REALLY, UH, GIVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO ALL OF OUR CONT OUR FOLKS.

UM, ALSO, I HAD ASKED ABOUT, UH, THE POSSIBILITY OF OUR NOVEMBER MEETING, BEING IN THE EVENING MM-HMM .

IS THAT ACHIEVABLE? YES.

OKAY.

UM, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ONLY CAVEAT TO THAT IS JUST, YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR PRESENTATIONS ARE REQUESTS.

SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ASKING A LOT.

AND I DO KNOW THAT THAT, UM, EVEN AS IT IS WITH OUR DAYTIME MEETINGS, I KNOW HOW REALLY BOMBARDED OUR EMPLOYEES ARE WITH WORK.

AND YOU AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT, THAT THAT THIS IS A BIG THING FOR THEM TO CARVE OUT THAT MUCH TIME.

AND THEN TO ASK FOR EVENING IS EVEN A BIGGER ASK.

BUT I THINK FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE, WE NEED TO HAVE A FEW EVENING MEETINGS JUST SO THAT WE CAN HEAR FROM FOLKS WE WOULDN'T NORMALLY SURE.

COULD WE DO THAT AT, UH, IS A POSSIBILITY OF DOING IT AT ONE OF THE YACHT CLUBS.

SO IT'S BRIGHTER AND NOT, UH, NOT IN AN AREA THAT WE HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF HOMELESS PEOPLE.

IF IT'S IN THE EVENING TIME AND NIGHTTIME, WE'RE REALLY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR.

SO I'M NOT COMFORTABLE IN AN MEETING IN AN AREA THAT'S NOT INCLUSIVE.

HOW ABOUT SILL BEACH? IS THAT NOT INCLUSIVE? THAT I JUST, IT'S AN AREA THAT WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER.

UM, AND THAT'S WHY I'M MORE COMFORTABLE WITH A CITY PIECE OF PROPERTY, UM, THAT I FEEL LIKE WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, UM, ANY INDIVIDUAL PREJUDICES.

OKAY.

NO, WE CAN, I THINK AS LONG AS WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF ELDERLY PEOPLE COMING, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, AS LONG AS WE HAVE, I THINK SOMEBODY OUT IN THE, IN THE PARKING LOT TO ASSURE THAT THEY GET TO THEIR CARS, UM, YEAH, I'M FINE WITH THAT.

WITH, UH, THE REQUEST FOR IT TO BE IN NOVEMBER IS THERE, ARE THERE, THERE'S NO PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM, SO MAYBE WE SHOULD BE LOOKING TOWARDS THAT TO GET SOMETHING, MAKE IT, YEAH.

TO MAKE SURE IT'S A, AN IMPACTFUL ENOUGH AGENDA AND TO MAKE IT WORTH IT.

YEAH.

LIKE THEN IT'S, DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS OF ITEMS THAT, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN REPORT ON THAT'S JUST TRYING TO THINK OF LIKE THE, THE HOT, THE HOT ITEMS THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD HAVE PEOPLE OH, THE COLORADO LAGOON AND A LOT OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON FOR PUBLIC WORKS, LIKE THE, THE LIFEGUARD TOWERS, LIKE THE ADVERTISING WOULD BE, THE ADVERTISEMENT ON THE TOWERS WOULD DEFINITELY BE, UM, I, I THINK WE, WE NEED TO THINK OF SEVERAL THINGS.

UM, AND THEN IT'LL BE CONTINGENT UPON, UM, IF WE CAN GET A SPEAKER THAT'LL COME AT NIGHT AND IF WE CAN, UM, AND IF THEY'RE FURTHER FAR ENOUGH ALONG IN WHAT'S PROGRESSING.

UM, SO MAYBE WE SHOULD THINK OF A, A HALF A DOZEN DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE POTENTIAL ITEMS, UM, AND THEN LOOK TO STAFF TO GIVE US FEEDBACK ON SCHEDULING AND PROJECT STATUS BEFORE WE ACTUALLY SCHEDULE 'EM.

YEAH.

I JUST LIKE, IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE DOING THE NIGHT, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE

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ENGAGE, LIKE WANTING, ENGAGE, LET'S MAKE IT WORTH OUR WHILE.

AND, AND I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM THE LONG BEACH POST ARTICLE ON OUR LETTER AND A LOT OF PHONE CALLS AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED.

AND SO THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, THERE IS INTEREST AND, AND FOLKS ARE LOOKING WHAT WE'RE DOING, SO LET'S MAKE SURE WE GET ENOUGH BANG FOR OUR BUCK.

BUT STEP GINGERLY, COMMISSIONER, YOU HAD A GOOD, GOOD POINT.

GOOD ONE.

OH, I JUST WAS FOLLOWING UP.

I WAS TELLING BRUCE, YOU KNOW, HIS PET PEEVE WAS ALWAYS THE ELECTRIC BIKES AND THE, THE GO, UH, WHAT DO THEY CALL THOSE? THE MINI BIKES? MINI BIKES.

OH, THE MINI BIKES.

I WAS WALKING ON BLUFF PARK THE OTHER DAY WITH A FRIEND OF MINE AND WE'RE TWO ELDERLY PEOPLE.

AND BAM, THIS GUY COMES BY WITH HIS MINIBIKE, JUST RUNS AROUND PEOPLE, GOES ON THE GRASS, GETS BACK ON THE SIDEWALK.

I WAS LIKE, OH, I WISH I COULD STOP YOU.

AND THERE'S A NEW STATE LAW SO THE CITY CAN ADOPT A NEW STATE LAW THAT WAS ALREADY PASSED AND SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR THAT BASICALLY, UM, PROHIBITS THAT 16 MILES AN HOUR OR 15 MILES AN HOUR AS TOPS.

YEAH.

UH, YOU KNOW, FOR, YOU KNOW, THE RENTAL ONES AND THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE PUT THE CHIPS IN IT, AND MY NEIGHBOR KIDS PUT CHIPS IN IT, THEY JUST GET ON THEIR PHONE AND IT'S ALL ON YOUTUBE, AND THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO DO.

UM, AND IT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S NO 15 MILES AN HOUR DOWN MY STREET AND AT LONG BEACH STATE.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, WHEN THE GROUPS COME, I'VE LEARNED, UM, I WAS OUT ON MY HARLEY THE OTHER DAY AND THEY ALL SURROUNDED ME AND I JUST SMILED, HEY, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ? YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE GONNA DO? WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHAT WE ASK FOR.

I THINK ABOUT THE, WHAT THE CITY, UH, ESPECIALLY IN THE MARINE DEPARTMENTS, WE WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TICKET 'EM BECAUSE THE MARINE DOESN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO TICKET PEOPLE THAT ARE SPEEDING.

DOES ANYBODY OUT THERE THAT HAVE CHECKED THE SPEEDING OF THE PEOPLE ON THE BIKE TRAILS? AND, UH, THE OTHER ONE I'D REALLY LIKE TO KNOW IS WHAT DO THEY DO IN, I CALL IT THE RACING MODULE, UH, OF COMING DOWN THAT HILL? WAS THAT OH, CHERRY.

THE, THE, YEAH, THE, UH, UH, MAINTENANCE STAFF WENT OUT THERE AND THEY KIND OF PUT SOME WALLS OUT THERE.

OKAY.

AND KIND OF CREATED A, A LITTLE MORE OF A DETERRENT.

UH, I MEAN, CAN'T JUST GO OUT THERE AND JUST PUT ROCK, ROCK, ROCK, ROCK.

I, I GOT YEAH, I, I AGREE.

BUT I, WE DID SOME MITIGATION WORK UP THERE.

RIGHT.

UM, AND THEN I JUST NEED TO BE VERY, VERY CLEAR.

A MARINE PATROL DETAIL IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BEACH FRONT.

NO.

UH, THEIR, THEIR JOB IS THE MARINE NUTS.

UH, THEY, SO THAT'S LONG BEACH PD THEN, IS THE BEACH FRONT THAT IS, YEAH, THE BEACH FRONT IS LONG BEACH PD AND, AND MARINE SAFETY.

UM, NOW I BELIEVE THEY'RE, THEY'RE FOC THEY, THEY'RE FOCUSING ON IT.

UM, BUT I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN FRONT OF THE COMMANDERS THAT ARE IN CHARGE OF THOSE, BUT OKAY.

BUT THEY KNOW THERE'S AN ISSUE AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ADDRESSING IT.

THEY'RE WORKING INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY, THEY, THEY'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH COUNCIL OFFICES AND, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY PARTIES TO, TO ADDRESS.

BUT I THINK FOR THE MOST PART, THAT CON CONVERSATION HAS TO BE HAD WITH THEM.

OKAY.

AND THE TRUE DETAILS OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING AS CONFIRMED.

WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING, MADAM CHAIR, THAT A NOVEMBER AN EVENING THING OF HAVING THE, THE COMMANDER OUT JUST TO DO A REVIEW OF IT, JUST TO ANSWER QUESTIONS? I THINK THAT THAT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA.

I, I THINK WE HAVE IDEAS ON THE NOVEMBER POTENTIAL THINGS AS WELL AS STAFF.

UM, SO I'M GONNA KIND OF PUT IT BACK TO THEM BECAUSE THAT'S, UH, WHERE WE ARE ON THINGS.

RIGHT.

PLUS THE, UH, WHO'S AVAILABLE.

OKAY.

AND THERE, THERE MAY BE LIMITATIONS THERE.

UNDERSTAND, YEAH.

YEAH.

BECAUSE THERE IS POSTINGS UP ON BLUFFS IN THE PARKS DOWN AT THE BEACH, THERE'S POSTINGS ON, NO BIKES HERE.

CAN'T RIDE THIS NO SKATEBOARDS APPARENT.

AND NONE OF THAT IS ENFORCED.

IT'S JUST, IT ENFORCED BY, BY DEFAULT, BUT BECAUSE OF THE SIGNAGE.

BUT THAT'S, BUT IT'S, IT'S PETTY STUFF.

WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR, OUR, OUR POLICE ARE 300 DOWN OUR YES.

UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T, CRIME IS, CRIME IS CRIME AND YOU CAN'T EVEN, YOU CAN'T EVEN GET SOMEBODY SPEEDING TO BE TICKETED WHEN THEY'RE DRIVING 90 MILES AN HOUR DOWN DOWN YOUR STREET.

WELL, AGAIN, IT JUST GOES BACK TO THE SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING.

UM, UH, A LOT OF WHAT LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES IS RESPONSE TO DATA POINTS.

AND SO WHETHER YOU GET A, A UNIT TO THE LOCATION RESPONSE,

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STILL MAKE THE CALL BECAUSE WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO, IT'S GONNA BE TRACKED, IT NOT, AND IT'S GONNA BE LOGGED AND IT'S GONNA BE QUANTIFIED.

AND THEN THEY USE THAT DATA TO ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, DEPLOYMENT TO AN, TO AN EXTENT.

AND SO MY, MY RECOMMENDATION TO EVERYONE IS NO MATTER WHAT, CONTINUE TO CALL, CONTINUE TO CALL AND 'CAUSE THEY LOG IT AND LOG AND IT'S TRACKED THE LONG BEACH.

WHAT IS THE, THE EMAIL MADAM CHAIR, UM, THAT WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING, YOU CAN GO TO THE EMAIL AND POST THE GO LONG BEACH APP.

LONG BEACH GO LONG BEACH APP.

UNBELIEVABLY QUICK.

YEAH.

MM-HMM .

UNBELIEVABLE.

I MEAN, I SAY THAT OPENLY.

I MEAN, I, WELL, AND TALK ABOUT METRICS, THEY'RE KEEPING METRICS ON THAT.

SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING WHEN THEY RESPOND TO THE CITIZENS.

UM, I GOT ONE OF SOMETHING THAT WAS DUMPED THAT WAS LIKE TWO MONTHS AGO.

I POSTED IT IN THERE AND I JUST NOW GOT IT CLOSED OUT.

SO IT'S, SOME OF THE THINGS TAKE LONGER.

AND I AM COMPASSIONATE ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE DO, WE HAVE A LIMITED NUMBER OF STAFF.

YES MA'AM.

WITHIN THE CITY, THEY HAVE TO PRIORITIZE WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

BUT IF I KNOW IT'S TWO MONTHS, THEY KNOW IT'S TWO MONTHS AND THEY KNOW THEY'RE GONNA NEED TO PUT MORE ENERGY TOWARDS THAT IN THE FUTURE.

SO YEAH.

USING AN APP, USING THINGS THAT ARE, UM, STAFF FREE THAT ARE IN A, THEN SOMEONE CAN TRACK LATER.

RIGHT.

AND DOCUMENT.

UH, SO PLEASE, UH, LET TODD KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER ITEMS FOR THE NOVEMBER.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMITTEE STATUS? WE'LL HAVE OF COURSE THE FOLLOW UP ON THE LETTER, THE SURFING FINANCE EXECUTIVE.

UM, I SEE NO OTHER ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

ANYTHING FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER? ANYTHING ELSE GOING ON WE WANNA TALK ABOUT? MA'AM? NO MA'AM.

I'M GOOD.

YEAH.

THIS TIME LAST YEAR, I THINK WE COMMENDED THE LIFEGUARDS, ALL OF ALL OF THE PERSONS THAT WERE INVOLVED WITH THE JUNIOR LIFEGUARD AND THE LIFEGUARD PROGRAM.

AND THE, MAYBE THAT WOULD BE A GOOD ONE FOR NOVEMBER.

THEY'RE NOT WORKING.

IT'S NIGHTTIME.

I'M JUST, MANY OF THEM ARE SCHOOL.

UH, BUT IF WE'RE DOING IT THERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE GOOD MAJORITY OF THOSE LIFEGUARDS? WHERE DO THEY COME FROM? WHEN I ASKED 'EM WHAT HIGH SCHOOL THEY'RE AT, THERE'S A, MOST OF 'EM WERE WILSON HIGH SCHOOL.

WILSON.

YEAH.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, WELL, WE ALL KNOW THAT WILSON IS THE FINEST SCHOOL.

.

I LOVE YOU, MR. LELAND WILL CONCUR WITH ME.

ALTHOUGH HE DOESN'T WANNA SAY THAT ON THE .

I DOUBLE LIK NO, SORRY.

UH, I CAN, I CAN MAKE A REQUEST TO, THAT MIGHT BE COOL.

I THINK.

WELL, AND, AND THAT AGAIN, IT'LL BE OUT THE DISCRETION YEAH.

TO KIND OF THINK OUT WHAT'S REALLY GONNA BE WISEST BEST USE OF OUR TIME FOR EVERYONE.

BUT THEY REALLY APPRECIATED THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER THAT WAS, UH, SOMETHING SPECIAL FOR THEM.

THAT WAS, YEAH.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

WELL, THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, WE'LL ADJOURN AT NINE 18.