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IF YOU WANNA CALL IT THE ORDER.ALRIGHT, SO YOU'RE HERE FOR THE CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEE RIGHTS AND APPEALS COMMISSION MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 8TH, 2025.
UH, ROLL CALL MEMBERS, PLEASE.
[ROLL CALL]
ELEMENTS PRESENT.COMMISSIONER MORALES PRESENT, COMMISSIONER GAR.
COMMISSIONER ALER PRESENT, WE HAVE COURT AT THIS TIME.
[ELECTION OF PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT]
OF PRESIDENT FOLLOWING THE ELECTION.THE CURRENT PRESIDENT WILL CONTINUE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE MEETING AND WHICH WILL BE CARRIED IN THIS CASE.
AND THE CHAIR ELECT, AND OR I SHOULD SAY THE PRESIDENT ELECT AND VICE PRESIDENT ELECT WILL BEGIN OFFICIALLY AT THE NEXT MEETING.
THAT BEING SAID, IT'S BEGIN OPENING NOMINATIONS.
DECLARE THE O UH, THE, THE NOMINATIONS OPEN FOR THE PRESIDENT OF THE CIVIL SERVICE, EMPLOYEE RIGHTS AND APPEALS COMMISSION.
EACH MEMBER MAY NOMINATE ONE PERSON TO CHAIR, INCLUDING YOURSELF.
THESE NOMINATIONS DO NOT REQUIRE SET.
UM, MIGHT LIKE TO NOMINATE, UH, MARCO TOO LATE.
SO, UH, OFFICIALLY I BELIEVE, UH, I DO APOLOGIZE.
I'M STILL LEARNING YOUR NAMES.
UH, COMMISSIONER? I'M COMMISSIONER.
THAT THERE ARE NO FURTHER NOMINATIONS.
I DECLARE THE NOMINATIONS CLOSED ORDER.
UH, IN THE ORDER NOMINATED, I INVITE EACH NOMINEE TO BRIEFLY SHARE WHY YOU WOULD LIKE, UH, TO BE ELECTED PRESIDENT.
WE WILL HEAR FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER LAP.
NO, I WASN'T EXPECTING TO BE NOMINATED.
UM, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SERVE AS THE CHAIR OF THIS COMMISSION.
I DO BRING TO IT SOME EXPERIENCE CHAIRING ORGANIZATION IN THAT I WAS CHAIR OF THE ETHICS COMMISSION FOR TWO YEARS AND VICE CHAIR FOR FOUR YEARS.
AND, AND AS THAT WE DISCUSSED AT OUR LAST MEETING, I DO HAVE EXTENSIVE KNOWLEDGE IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR, IN EMPLOYEE DISCIPLINE, IN CIVIL SERVICE PROCESS.
SO I, I THINK THERE IS SOME KNOWLEDGE THAT I CAN BRING TO BEAR ON THE PROCESS AND MAKING SURE OUR, OUR MEETINGS AND THINGS RUN SMOOTHLY.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONFIDENCE, CHRIS.
SO NOW WE WILL TAKE, UH, A VOTE, UH, FOR THE NOMINEE.
COMMISSIONER MORALE FOR CHAIR, PLEASE CATCH A VOTE.
WE'LL TAKE A, UH, A VERBAL VOTE.
WE NOW HAVE OUR FIRST, UH, PRESIDENT.
WE'LL MOVE ON NOW TO THE VICE PRESIDENT.
ME, CHRIS BURNER,
SO HERE, UH, IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER NOMINATIONS, GO AHEAD AND ENC CLOSE, UH, OFFICIALLY AND, AND ORDER, UH, NOMINATED.
I INVITE EACH NOMINATED TO BRIEFLY SHARE WHY YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE VICE PRESIDENT.
UH, FIRST WE HERE FROM
THANK SO, SO JUST BRIEF BACKGROUND.
UH, I HAVE 40 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WITH THE CITY ORGANIZATION.
UM, SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH, UH, CIVIL SERVICE PROCEEDINGS.
UM, I'VE HAD, UH, I WORKED FOR, UH, COMMISSION FOR EXTENSIVELY, UH, WATER AND UTILITIES DEPARTMENTS.
WOULD LIKE TO, UH, SHARE WHY THEY ALWAYS BE A GOOD VICE PRESIDENT.
SO AS A, UM, 35 AND A HALF YEAR PUBLIC SERVANT, UM, I'VE BEEN DEDICATED TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT, UM, COUNTY, STATE GOVERNMENTS.
UM, I HAVE EXTENSIVE KNOWLEDGE AS A FORMER CITY CLERK
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OF, UH, RULES, PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES, UH, INCLUDING, UM, EXPERIENCE THROUGHOUT MY CAREER.UM, MANAGING, YOU KNOW, RESOURCES, UH, ISSUES RELATED TO, UH, SUPPORTING STAFF.
AND, UH, ALL THAT GOES
I'LL SAY THAT, UM, WHOEVER IT IS, THE VICE PRESIDENT WILL TO SUPPORT, UM,
THAT MEETING CONCLUDED, WE WILL NOW TAKE A VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF, UH, COMMISSIONER GARNER OR VICE PRESIDENT, PLEASE.
I'M NOT SURE IF YOU TAKE THAT A SECONDARY VOTE, BUT WE WILL, UM, UH, WE'LL NOW OPEN THE, SO WE'RE FINE.
UH, WE'LL CONGRATULATE, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, GARNER, UH, ON APPOINTMENT TO VICE PRESIDENT.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE ANYTHING.
AND I'LL JUST SAY THAT I LOOK FORWARD TO, UM, GROWING UNDER OUR, UH, PRESIDENT, VICE PRESIDENT.
ANYTHING SAID, WE, UH, NOW MOVE ON.
I THINK WE WANTED TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT OUT, CORRECT? YES.
[PUBLIC COMMENT Opportunity to address the Civil Service Employee Rights and Appeals Commission on non-agenda items. ]
STAND IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION HERE AND SAY WHAT YOU LIKE TO SAY.YOU'D LIKE THREE OR FOUR MINUTES TO STAY WHAT YOU EXPECT.
UM, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR, UM, ELECTION.
UM, BEEN A LONG JOURNEY, UM,
SO, UM, JUST HOPING TO GET SOME TYPE OF CLOSURE TODAY.
MOVE TO THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEM.
ITEM NUMBER ONE IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE
[1. 25-56626 Recommendation to approve the minutes for the Civil Service Employee Rights & Appeals Commission meeting of Wednesday, July 9, 2025. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
MINUTES FOR THE CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEE RIGHTS AND APPEAL COMMISSION MEETING OF WEDNESDAY, JULY 9TH, 2012, 2005.UH, CAN I GET A MOTION MOVED? SECOND FOR THE RECORD.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONER APPLE AND A SECOND BY LAR.
ALL IN FAVOR? OH, UH, ANY DISCUSSION? ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THE MINUTES? SEE AND NONE, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YOU SAY ANYTHING MR. CHI, ABOUT THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING YOU HAD? UH, NO SIR.
COMMISSIONER S YOU APPROVING THE MINUTES? AYE.
MOTION CARRIES THE ITEM NUMBER TWO IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO
[2. 25-56627 Recommendation to hear deliberations on case 04-D-1819. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
HEAR DELIBERATIONS ON CASE ZERO FOUR D 1 8 1 9.UH, THIS CASE IS ON CALENDAR FOLLOWING THE ORDER BY JUDGE CURTIS 10 REMAINING THE CASE BACK TO THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION TO RE DELIBERATE THE ISSUE OF THE APPROPRIATE PENALTY IN LIGHT OF THE COMMISSION'S PREVIOUS TWO, TWO DEADLOCK ASKED OF THE PENALTIES.
OBVIOUSLY NONE OF YOU COMMISSIONERS WERE PRESENT ON THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION WHEN THIS CASE WAS ORIGINALLY HEARD IN 2022.
HOWEVER, EACH OF YOU WERE PROVIDED WITH A COMPLETE SET OF THE TRANSCRIPTS AND ALL THE EXHIBITS THAT WERE ADMITTED FROM THE HEARING.
PRESIDENT MORALES, HAVE YOU REVIEWED ALL THE TRANSCRIPTS AND EXHIBITS? YES.
VICE PRESIDENT GARNER, HAVE YOU REVIEWED ALL THE TRANSCRIPTS AND EXHIBITS? YES.
COMMISSIONER ALER, GARY, I, I APOLOGIZE.
UM, IF WE CAN GET A MOTION AND A SECOND FIRST AND THEN, UM, I THINK THEN YOU WILL BE STARTING THE DELIBERATION AND THEN I'LL, I'LL I'LL RECUSE OR I'LL EXCUSE MYSELF 'CAUSE I BELIEVE THIS IS THIS BE MOVING TO A CLOSED SESSION, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, BUT WE'RE NOT THERE YET THOUGH.
I'M JUST MAKING SURE ON THE RECORD THAT EVERYONE'S READ THE TRANSCRIPTS AND EXHIBITS.
COMMISSIONER
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REVIEWED THE TRANSCRIPTS AND EXHIBITS? YES.AND COMMISSIONER OWENS, HAVE YOU REVIEWED THE TRANSCRIPTS AND EXHIBITS? YES, I HAVE.
GIVEN THAT EVERYONE HAS REVIEWED THE TRANSCRIPTS AND EXHIBITS, ARE YOU ABLE TO DELIBERATE IN CLOSE SESSION? YES.
IS THERE A MOTION FOR THAT SECONDS? A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER? OH, I'M THE COMMISSIONER.
OKAY, SO NOW WE'LL, UM, RECESS INTO CLOSED SESSION.
NOW WE'RE OFF THE RECORD AGAIN.
ALMOST LEMME JUST, SO SINCE I CAN'T STAY FOR THE WHOLE DAY, SO YOU WANT ME TO DO, OKAY, SO, UM,
BECAUSE, UM, WELL,
LET'S, LET'S FINISH IT OFF THEN.
I JUST, I ASKED HER TO MAKE SURE THAT HE WAS ALL, THAT HE GO, GOES ALL THE WAY OUT AND THAT HE WAS LIKE, MAKE SURE THAT HE GOT
HE HAD TO KIND OF EXPECT THAT.
SO WE SAY PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, IF THERE'S ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION
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OR OTHER STAFF, NO, UH, NO ANNOUNCEMENTS.UH, SO THE PUBLIC FACING PART WILL ADJOURN.
[ADJOURNMENT]
ANY OBJECTIONS FROM YOU, GARY, OR NO OBJECTIONS.NOW WE'LL RESUME WITH, UM, ITEM NUMBER THREE ON THE AGENDA
[3. 25-56628 Recommendation to hear deliberations on case 13-S-2122. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
WITH RECOMME RECOMMENDATION TO HEAR THE APPEAL HEARING IN CASE ONE THREE S 2 1 22.WE, WE'LL BRING IN THE PARTIES TO THAT CASE NOW.