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OR TREATING AROUND THE BUILDING, WHICH ARE, UM, OLDER, ADULT RESIDENT LOVE TO DO.

AND THEN WE HAVE A MOVIE NIGHT, UH, DAY TOO.

UM, DOWNSTAIRS WE HAVE OUR FRIENDA GOING ON AS WELL WHERE, UH, WE ASK OUR, UM, OLDER ADULTS TO BRING IN PICTURES OF THEIR LOVED ONES.

UM, SO WE CAN SEND THEM ON VIA A FRIEND.

SO IF WE HAVE ANY PICTURES YOU WANNA PUT ON THERE, LEAVING BIRDS THAT, UM, TO HAPPEN, UM, AROUND THE CITY.

WE DO HAVE A FIELD TRIP FOR OUR OLDER ADULTS THIS MONTH.

UM, SO WE'RE GOING TO AKA FARMS IN IRVINE, WHICH AKA FARMS IS A, A FARM THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, PUMPKIN VEGGIE, THEY HAVE A TRACTOR, UM, THEY HAVE A CUTTING.

WE DO KIND DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO OUR, OUR PARTICIPANTS ARE GONNA GET TO GO ON THE TRACTOR RIDE.

THEY ALSO GET TO PICK VEGGIES AND BRING VEGGIES HOME.

THEY GET A PUMPKIN TO BRING HOME WITH THEM.

UM, SO THAT TRIP IS OCTOBER 20.

WE'RE DOING IT THREE DIFFERENT TIMES BECAUSE OF OUR SIX CENTERS.

WE, WE HAVE TO TAKE, UM, THREE DIFFERENT BUSES, BUT THE FARM ITSELF CAN HOLD US.

SO WE'RE DOING IN A ROW FIELD TRIP, JUST DIFFERENT SITES IN THE CITY.

SO 20 OCTOBER, 22ND, OCTOBER 23RD.

OCTOBER 24TH.

UM, WE HAVE ALREADY REGISTERED FOR THEM.

I THINK THEY MIGHT BE FULL, BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IS, UM, NOT COMING TRIP FOR OCTOBER THAT WE'RE GOING ON, UM, THROUGHOUT ALL OF OUR CENTERS, UM, FOR THE MONTH.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT TODAY.

THANK YOU HEIDI.

COMMISSIONS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HEIDI ON YOUR REPORT? THANK PUBLIC.

DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, WE'LL NOW BE PUBLIC COMMENT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION? I HAVE A QUESTION.

OKAY.

JOSEPH, YOUR QUESTION? OH, I DON'T KNOW.

ME AND IRENE ARE GONNA HOPEFULLY DO A DUO AND WE'RE DEBATING BETWEEN SOME, SO IF WE DO IT WE'LL, WE'LL LET YOU SEE PICTURES.

OKAY.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BETWEEN PERSON REGARD? ANY REPORT? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, RYAN? UH, MAYBE WE JUST IDENTIFY OURSELVES.

THAT'S RIGHT.

IS THIS RELATED TO WHAT THEY'RE SPEAKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW? OR IS IT, IS IT SOMETHING THAT'S ON THE AGENDA OR OFF THE AGENDA? OKAY.

WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT LATER IN THE MEETING.

WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

QUESTION GREEN S YES.

BUT THEY ALL ARE GOING TO THE EARTH.

YEAH, JUST, UM, SO NORMALLY WHAT WE DO IS WE USUALLY TAKE ALL ABOUT 150, UM, OF OUR OLDER DOGS ON THE SAME DAY TO THE SAME PLACE, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE THREE BUSES AND, AND THEY PICK UP TWO SITES EACH.

SO ONE MIGHT PICK UP HERE AND THEN THEY MIGHT GO TO LIKE MCBRIDE PARK AND PICK UP S AND THEN THEY'LL GO TO LIKE, UM, WORK DOWN THE HUNTINGTON LIBRARY, RIGHT? AND THEN IF MAYBE ACCOUNT AND EXPO WILL BE ON MY LIST, AND THEY'LL GO TO THE HUNTINGTON LIBRARY.

SO THEY'LL BE ON THE SAME DAY THIS TIME.

UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING IT WHERE, UM, IT'S ONLY ONE BUS PER DAY, AND THEN WE'RE DOING THREE DAYS OF BUILD TRIPS.

SO THE FIRST DAY ON THE 22ND, I, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE GOING.

AND THEN EL DORADO'S GOING.

SO TWO SITES ARE GOING THE NEXT DAY, THEN IT'S LIKE MCBRIDE AND SILVERADO.

SO YEAH.

SO THE BUSES GO TO, USUALLY WHEN WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME DAY, THEY GO TO DIFFERENT, UM, PICK UP LOCATIONS AND THEN ALL OF THE SAME FIVE MM-HMM .

MM-HMM .

THANK YOU.

UH, ERS ARE, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION REGARDING HEIDI'S REPORT? ALL RIGHT, MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL FOR THE VOTE? AM I SUPPOSED TO BE HERE? I'M SORRY.

I'M COMING FOR THE, I CAN START AT 10 30.

I'M EARLY, SO I'M INTERRUPTING HERE.

READING.

I'M SORRY.

OH, IT'S A PUBLIC MEETING, BUT YEAH, YOU'RE OKAY? I'M OKAY.

THANK YOU.

NO PROBLEM.

OKAY, TO CARRY ON WITH THE VOTE.

COMMISSIONER ILLA.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER SALCITO.

COMMISSIONER HINES.

COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER SUTHERLAND.

THANK YOU.

VICE CHAIR GIBBONS.

THANK YOU, CHAIR VALENCIA.

MOTION CARRIES IN WHICH, ALTHOUGH NOW WE NEED A RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS AND IF APPROPRIATE, APPROVE AND SUBMIT A LETTER TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE CITY'S BUDGET AS IT RELATES TO AGING ADULTS.

SO MAY HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THIS ITEM.

UH, COMMISSIONER

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HINES MOVES.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

COMMISSIONER SMITH SECONDS.

UH, WE'LL NOW TURN TO THE PERMISSION TO LEAVE THIS ITEM DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM.

DID EVERYBODY GET THE LETTER FROM, UM, NORMA WROTE THIS LETTER.

UH, DID ANYONE GET A CHANCE TO READ IT? I COUNTED YOU OUR AGENDAS OR, YES, MS. DISCUSSION ON IT? ANYONE LIKE YOU? COULD I, DID WE MENTION THAT THE VERSION THAT IRENE DISTRIBUTED IS DIFFERENT, UH, WHICH HAS THE LAST SENTENCE THAT SHAPE YOUR ATTENTION OF THIS WEEK? BECAUSE, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING BACK FROM YOU ABOUT THE STUFF BEING TAKEN, MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

SO, SO IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WAS A SENTENCE ADDED AT HAND, AND THE, THE ONE THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR HAND IS CURRENT.

THE ONE THAT WAS SENT OUT WAS, UH, IF YOU NOT HAVE THAT LAST SENTENCE, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION REGARDING THIS LETTER OR COMMENTS, CHANGES THAT WANT TO BE MADE? MAKE A COMMENT.

I REALLY APPROPRIATE AND MONEY FOR THE SENIOR WE SPENT THAT.

WE HAVE SOME IF IT'S AN EXCELLENT FUND.

YOU, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS IN DISCUSSION IN THIS LETTER? AND THEN THEY'RE ASKING IF NOT BIAS OF IMPACT BE TO BE TURNING SENIORS IN THE CITY.

UM, THAT'S ONLY AN ANNUAL, ANNUAL BUDGET REVIEW TO BE INTO, IF ANY FUNDS COME IN IN THE SAME LETTER THAT THE CITY CAN CONSIDERED FOR ANY PROJECTS SO THAT THEY CAN LOOK AT US FOR WAYS ALL YEAR AROUND AND NOT JUST THAT BUDGET.

I MEAN, I KNOW WE'RE ASKING THEM TO LET US KNOW WHAT BUDGET ITEMS THEY'RE DOING AND HOW SS WILL BE AFFECTED, BUT IS THERE ANY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INCLUSIVE LANGUAGE.

IS THERE ANY WAY IF FUNDS COME IN TO SEE THAT WE WILL ALWAYS BE CONSIDERED AS A PART OF THAT PROCESS IF THE COURT DISTRIBUTION OF FUNDS YEAR ROUND? OR DO WE JUST WANNA SAY, WAIT TILL THE BUDGET AND THEN WE'LL SEE, WE'LL TRY GET YOU PUT MONEY TOWARDS C CITIZENS? WELL, I, SORRY.

GOOD.

UM, I, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA, BUT I THINK PROBABLY WE SHOULD DO A SEPARATE LETTER ON THAT OR A SEPARATE SHOULD LOOK INTO IT BIT, SEE WHAT IT WOULD INVOLVE AND THEN ASK SOMETHING BECAUSE, UM, THE, WE HAVE A CHANCE IT'S GONNA BE COMPLICATED GETTING THE RIGHT BECAUSE GONNA INVOLVE IT, THE WORK AND LIKE OKAY.

I'M, YEAH, IF IT'S A ONE OFF OR , DON'T FORGET.

SOUNDS LIKE, YEAH.

UH, I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT IF WE BEGIN THE PRACTICE WITH THE UPCOMING 2026 BUDGET, WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.

SO IT'S LIKE HENRY CHOOSING THAT, OH, HENRY, CAN I MAKE A FRIENDLY AMEND, DO THAT, CHANGE IT TO 2027 BUDGET.

THERE'S NO NEED TO MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT SINCE IT'S INCLUDED IN THE RECOMMENDATION AND DISCUSS THE, SO WHATEVER YOU GUYS DECIDE IS NO NEED TO MAKE A FRIENDLY OKAY.

SO YOU'LL INCLUDE, UH, 2027, I BELIEVE IT IS.

IS THAT, NOW, IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENT FROM DISCUSSION REGARDING THIS LETTER? WELL, I, I THINK THE, UM, ISSUE OF, OF INCOMING FUNDING IS IMPORTANT, UH, NOT ONLY IN THE BUDGET PROCESS, BUT IF THERE'S MONEY THAT COMES FROM THE HOMELESSNESS TAX OR, UH, ANY KIND OF STATE, UM, ASSISTANCE, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW IF THERE IS MONEY SET ASIDE OR MONEY DESIGNATED IN THOSE SPECIAL GRANTS, UM, FOR AGING.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO PUT TOGETHER A SECOND LETTER, UM, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD RAISE THOSE ISSUES.

BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THROUGH THE COUNTY, THE HOMELESSNESS, UM, MONEY COULD BE SUBSTANTIAL.

AND IS THERE ANY, ARE THERE ANY PROVISIONS

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FOR ASSISTANCE TO SENIORS, UH, IN THAT HOMELESSNESS, UM, FUNDING THE TAX FUND THAT IS GONNA COME, COME IN? UH, GIBBON, I, I, I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT I DO FEEL LIKE WE WANNA UNDER THE WALLS.

YEAH.

I FEEL LIKE THAT IS A COMPLETELY SEPARATE ISSUE AND IT SHOULD HAPPEN RIGHT AFTER THIS LETTER IS BEEN SENT IN.

RIGHT.

UM, AND, BUT UM, I DON'T, I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE, I FEEL LIKE IF WE CHANGE, THERE'S TOO MUCH, IT'S GONNA GET TOO CONFUSING.

SO I THINK THAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN A BEAUTIFUL AND CONCISE LETTER FOR WHAT WE WANT REGARDING THE BUDGET GOING FORWARD.

AND THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, KEEP ASCE AND, AND WE'LL MORE LIKELY TO SEE SOME RESULTS FROM IT, TO YOUR POINT, TOTALLY SEPARATE, BUT USED TWO TOTALLY SEPARATE BLOOD THAT WOULD SAY WHEN THESE OTHER THINGS SUCH AS A VCD COME ALONG DURING THE YEAR, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO FORM ABOUT MATH.

SO, HEY, MAYBE THANK YOU FOR WRITING THIS LETTER.

IT'S REALLY WELL WRITTEN ADVICE.

IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENT OR DISCUSSION REGARDING THIS LETTER? I MAY, BEFORE I MOVE ON TO THE VOTE, DID YOU WANT TO START THE INITIATION PROCESS OF CREATING ANOTHER LETTER? BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN INCLUDE AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT AND THEN WE CAN GET STARTED AS SOON AS AMENDMENT CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE CITY BUDGET AS IT RELATES TO ASIAN ADULTS.

AND BEGIN THE, AND BEGIN CREATING A SECOND LETTER REGARDING INCOMING FUNDS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

AND, UM, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER HINES.

DO YOU AGREE TO THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? OKAY.

BECAUSE WHAT YOU DO WITH IT OKAY.

TO INCLUDE.

OKAY.

UM, SO YOU, THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT HAS BEEN, OKAY.

AND THEN AS THE SECONDER, DO YOU AGREE THAT? YES.

PERFECT.

SO NOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE VOTE IF WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH IT WITH THE VOTE.

OF COURSE.

COMMISSIONER CHINCHILLA.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER SALCITO.

COMMISSIONER HINES.

COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT.

THANK YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONER SUTHERLAND.

UH, VICE CHAIR GIBBONS.

AYE.

CHAIR VALENCIA.

MOTION CARRIES HINES.

SECOND SIDE NOTES.

NOW CAN DISCUSS THIS ITEM.

WE, WE'VE, UH, MENTIONED THIS BEFORE, THE MIC VISIBILITY PLAN.

I THINK WE TOOK SOME NOTES FROM LAST TIME IN WORDS MOSTLY BE WORKING, UM, ON THIS.

DID ANYBODY GET ANY RESULTS FROM THE LAST TIME THAT WE DISCUSSED THIS? YES, I HAVE , I HAVE FEEL SOMETHING ABOUT PUBLIC WORKS.

NO, I DIDN'T WEAR MY HEARING AID, SO I I NO, I, SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN THE BLANK MISSING OUT.

BUT, UH, I, UH, PART OF OUR

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VISIBILITY PLAN, UH, I SPOKE WITH, UH, JOE MURRAY, WHO'S A, UM, WRITER FOR THE TALK TO CAROLYN ABOUT IT AND GOT PERMISSION AND WHERE, UM, SHE WAS VERY INTERESTED IN DOING SOME ARTICLES ABOUT THE DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS AND ESPECIALLY THE COMMISSION ON AGING.

AND SHE HAS HERSELF HAS DONE WITH COMMISSION, UH, FOR ADVISORY.

AND, UH, WE'VE CHATTED FOR ABOUT AN HOUR OR SO ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND I'LL KEEP YOU POSTED WAY BEFORE THE ARTICLE COMES OUT, BUT I JUST THINK WE JUST NEED TO GET SOME VISIBILITY AND THAT WE MEET AND, AND UH, ONE OF THE THINGS SHE SUGGESTED WHEN SHE FOUND OUT THAT THERE WERE OVER 30 COMMISSION IS THAT MAYBE THE COMMISSION SHOULD MEET MAYBE ONCE A YEAR AT THE AQUARIUM IN THE AUDITORIUM AND KNOW THAT ALL THESE THINGS EXIST AND KIND OF NEVER GO AROUND BECAUSE WE SAID PEOPLE LIKE OURSELVES WHO MADE A COMMITMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY AND SHE THOUGHT WOULD BE EVERYTHING THAT WAS SPOILED.

SO THAT'S WHY.

SO WE AGREED A GOOD IDEA, BUT I AGREE.

I INTEND TO PURSUE THINGS LIKE THIS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MICHELLE SCHMITZ FOR, AND OF COURSE IDENTITY, BUT NOT NECESSARILY TO 5,000 PEOPLE THERE, BUT TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE, HOW DID WE LOSE THOSE PEOPLE BY THE TIME THEY WERE, THEY WERE HERE FIRST.

10 30.

YEAH, SO THAT'S LOT.

THEY HAD A, A DIFFERENT, UM, HEALTHCARE SITUATION AND I DIDN'T WANT THEM TO MISS THAT BECAUSE WAS KIND OF VALUABLE TO SITUATION.

SO SORRY ABOUT THAT.

SO ALSO AT THE LAST MEETING WE DISCUSSED ONE OF THE, UH, VISIBILITY ITEMS WAS TO REACH OUT TO YOUR COUNCIL PERSON TO SEE IF THEY, UM, HAD ANY SENIOR ISSUES THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON.

WAS I THAT ALSO, AND DOUG, CHRISTINA DUGGAN SAID SOMEONE FROM HER OFFICE, MARIA MIGHT BE COMING TO THIS MEETING.

AND I SPOKE TO MARIA AND TOLD HER ABOUT THE MEETING AND UH, SHE MIGHT BE COMING.

AND JOE MURRAY SUGGESTED AND SAID THAT AT THE MOVING ADVISORY COMMISSION OF DIFFERENT COUNCIL PEOPLE SEND REPRESENTATIVE AND WOULD NOT HEARD US TO CALL OUR REPRESENTATIVES.

SOME OF YOU , DIFFERENT .

IT HAS COME SENATOR, REPRESENTATIVE FROM THEIR OFFICE TO ATTEND THIS MEETING.

DIDN SPEAK WITH MY COUNCIL 13, UH, DISTRICT DOWN TOO.

BUT, UM, I DID TALK TO, UH, REPRESENTATIVE FEBRUARY VAL'S OFFICE WHO WAS INTERESTED AND I ASKED, MET THAT BEING LOOKED AT REPRESENTATIVE REGINA'S OFFICE, UM, AND TOLD HER THAT I STARTED REASON ADMISSION AND SHE WAS INTERESTED AND THEY SAID THEY ALSO LIKEWISE BE ABLE TO SOMETIMES SEND SOME MONEY FROM THEIR OFFICE, A BROADER PERSPECTIVE FROM THE STATE LEVEL AND MAYBE FROM THE COUNTY LEVEL TO AT LEAST ATTEND AND THEN TAKE THAT BACK TO THE, UM, SUPERVISOR.

AND, UM, UM, LIKEWISE THE, UM, STAY SIMILAR WHEN YOU THOUGHT.

THANK YOU.

UM, I HAVE, I'M MEETING WITH MY COUNCIL PERSON DISTRICT TO STAY STAFF.

GREAT.

SO I, PERFECT.

NEXT, UH, NEXT MEETING.

MR. .

UM, THEN I PROMISED TO YOU STUDENT CONTACT, MY COUNCIL PERSON.

UM, I HAD ORIGINALLY CONTACTED BY EMAIL ON THE, ON THE PAGE TWICE AND I NEVER GOT A RESPONSE AND I WAS, I JUST DIDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

BUT NOW I REALIZE A PHONE CALL PROBABLY WORKS BETTER AND ASK, I COULD EVEN ASK THEM TO COME TO THE MEETING WITH GOOD IDEA.

BUT I, I WAS WONDERING, SOME OF US PUT OUR NAMES BY DIFFERENT THINGS AND SOME PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY RECORDED ON WHAT THEY PUT OUR NAMES BY, BUT MAYBE WE NEED A COPY OR I CAN WORK WITH MICHELLE OR SOMETHING OF WHO, WHO PUT THEIR NAMES BY WHAT, OR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE NEED TO ADD TO THIS.

UM, SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE STILL TOTALLY RELEVANT, BUT I KNOW I PUT MY NAME BY THE, UM, WRITING ARTICLES AND I WANNA GET OFF OF THAT COMMITTEE 'CAUSE CAROLYN AND, AND, UH, BILLIS OUR, OUR OUR PERFECT

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FOR THAT.

AND I DON'T, I'M ON ENOUGH OTHER THINGS.

UM, YOU ARE, YOU'RE, YOU ARE GOOD.

YEAH.

YOU'RE ON THE, UH, LEGISLATION IMPACTS.

UM, AND THEN ALSO DEVELOPING A FACT SHEET AND POWERPOINT WITH DATA AND SENIORS REQUEST THAT THE CITY DEVELOPMENT ACTUALLY POINT.

YEAH, WELL, WE'LL WE COULD MODIFY THAT A LITTLE BIT AS WE GO ALONG, BUT SURE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

I AM ON ANY OTHER ONES.

, UM, ADVOCATE FOR LOYALTY FROM SENIORS TO BE INCLUDED.

OH, THIS WOULD BE PERFECT FOR THE NEXT LETTER.

ADVOCATE FOR LOW INCOME SENIORS TO BE INCLUDED IN EVERYTHING THAT THE CITY PROPOSES THAT WE IMPLEMENTS IN THE FUTURE.

WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO WITH OUR, UM, THE BUDGET THING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE'RE BE WILLING TO WRITE ANOTHER LETTER.

WE DID.

REALLY, I WOULD LIKE, UM, OTHER, BOTH THE TAKE A STEP PART OF IT ACTUALLY LOOK RIGHT, YOU GUYS TAKE A STAB AT IT.

I WILL WRITE SOME KIND OF DRAFT AND WE NEED ASSESSMENT IT AND MODIFY IT.

I DID REACH OUT TO MY COUNCIL PERSON AND THERE ANSWER WHAT YOUR ANSWER WAS.

UNHELPFUL DECISION WORKING ON THE SENIOR SEVENTH.

SO I DIDN'T EVEN RESPOND TO .

UM, OKAY.

IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE SENIOR VISIBILITY AFTER THE PLAN? UM, JUST ON NUMBER EIGHT, I KNOW YOU, SHE WASN'T INTERESTED IN WRITING, BUT IT SAID IT'S YEAR ROUND AND THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER MEDIA OUTLETS.

SO IF JOE MURRAY IS DOING THE GRUNTING THAT SHE ACTUALLY WORKS FOR THEM, THEN WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WRITE FOR ANY OTHER, UH, UM, OUTLETS OR, SO I THINK IF WE WANNA ALL WRITE AN ARTICLE ABOUT WHATEVER WE, TO SUBMIT MORE ARTICLES FROM US AS COMMISSIONERS AND MORE AWARENESS SO THAT WE DON'T LIVE WITH ANYBODY AND WE CAN DO SOMETHING.

, I DON'T CARE IF YOU WRITE ABOUT LOVE IN FEBRUARY, WE STILL GONNA HAVE A BOTTOM LINE, A VIOLENT SAYING COMMISSION BUT SCHEME.

SO LET'S JUST PUT MORE EMPHASIS ON CONTRIBUTED TO OUR OUTLETS OR FACEBOOK, WHATEVER YOU GOTTA DO.

BUT DON'T LIMIT YOURSELF IN SAYING IF WE ARE THE ONLY ONES DOING IT BECAUSE WE ARE DOING IT FOR BRENDA, THAT BECAUSE WE TALK TO JOE MURRAY THAT EVERYBODY'S STILL THIS, RIGHT.

WITH EVERYTHING RIGHT.

ABOUT RIFLE, WHATEVER THAT, BUT LET'S JUST PUT MORE IN INFORMATION OUT THERE FROM OUR COMMISSIONS AND THAT WAY WE STILL HAVE VISIBILITY.

I DON'T WANNA, I'M, I DON'T WANT US TO SAY THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING THIS, BUT BECAUSE IT'S TO THE PUBLIC AND IF IT'S FROM YOU, IT'S STILL FROM YOU.

AS LONG AS IT'S NOT AGENDA ITEMS OR WHATEVER, WE JUST LOOK MORE VISIBILITY.

THE FACT THAT THERE'S A COMMISSION AND WE PARTICIPATE .

OKAY.

SO I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT WRITING THINGS.

IF IT SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT BEING FROM THE COMMISSION ON AGING, THEN THAT HAS TO BE NO, BUT IT JUST FROM YOURSELF, FROM YOU AND NOT MENTIONING AND NOT MENTIONING ANYTHING ABOUT THE COMMISSION, YOU HAVE A FOLLOWING.

THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A GRAY AREA THERE.

'CAUSE TECHNICALLY IT HAS TO COME FROM THE CHAIR.

IF YOU'RE WRITING THAT, YOU'RE FROM THE, THE COMMISSION.

SO IF YOU WANNA WRITE SOMETHING AS A RESIDENT, YOU CAN DO THAT.

BUT AS A COMMISSIONER, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE BODY FIRST AND THEN GO THROUGH THE CHAIR.

MM-HMM.

IT WOULD HAVE TO COME THROUGH THE CHAIR.

UH, ONLY BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IT'S OPINION SO ON.

YOU CAN'T SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION AS A COMMISSIONER.

ONLY THE CHAIR CAN SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION.

YEAH.

EVERYBODY ALL YEAR ROUND.

I KEEP IT MONTHLY SOMETHING SO THAT WE ARE OUT THERE OFTEN, MORE OFTEN NOW.

'CAUSE IT SAYS ONCE A YEAR OR TWICE A YEAR.

IS IT, CAN I QUESTION? YEAH.

IS IT POSSIBLE THAT BE WORKING TO WRITE SOMETHING ABOUT, UH, FEBRUARY, VALENTINE'S FIFTH YEAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE BODY OF THE ARTICLE? WOULD CAROLYN WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO SAY THAT SHE WORKS AS THIS VOLUNTEER JOB AND THIS VOLUNTEER JOB AND THE COMMISSION ON AGING AND, AND MOM, SHE COULD SAY THAT, BUT THEN SHE ALSO HAS TO SAY THAT THIS IS HER OPINION.

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IT'S NOT THE THE OPINION OF THE COMMISSION.

'CAUSE YOU'RE A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CITY AS A COMMISSIONER, IF WE'RE CONTACTING OUR MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL, WHAT ARE THE GUIDELINES THERE? UH, KIND OF THE SAME THING WHERE IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THE CHAIR GIVING YOU PERMISSION TO THEN GO TALK TO YOUR REPRESENTATIVE, WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE.

OKAY.

SO IT HAS THE AUTHORITY HAS TO COME THROUGH THE CHAIR TO GO AHEAD AND DO THOSE THINGS.

I THINK WE DID THAT, UM, MEETING MM-HMM .

YEAH.

ONE THE THINGS THAT WE JUST IN MY MIND DROPPED THE BALL ON THAT SENIOR CENTER BECAUSE I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY INVOLVED.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY UPDATES.

WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO TO CALL BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY I HAVE PLENTY OF TIME I COULD START CALLING, BUT I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN ON THERE.

SO I'VE ASKED PUBLIC WORKS TO COME DO A PRESENTATION UNAVAILABLE TODAY WITH A PLAN.

THEY'RE GONNA COME NEXT, UM, AT TALKING, UM, .

SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOMEBODY SAID SO I CAN HARASS THEM INSTEAD.

.

.

IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THE SENIOR VISIBILITY ACTION PLAN? GOOD QUESTION.

SURE.

IF I WANNA HAVE DISCUSSION WITH PRETTY MUCH ANYBODY, UM, ON BEHALF OF THIS COMMISSION, I NEED TO GIVE PERMISSION FIRST, BUT IF I JUST GO AS A CONCERN MEMBER, THE PUBLIC THEN OKAY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

YEAH.

AND IT ALSO DEPENDS ON WHAT YOUR BYLAWS SAY.

I HAVEN'T, UM, LOOKED AT THEM JUST YET, BUT THERE ARE SOME COMMISSIONS THAT IN THEIR BYLAWS THEY'RE GIVEN AUTHORITY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION.

UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN OPTION FOR YOU IN THE FUTURE.

UM, BUT GENERALLY THE AUTHORITY WOULD HAVE TO BE GIVEN BY THE CHAIR IN ORDER TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION.

WELL, YOU CAN ALWAYS ABOUT THE SAME TOPIC.

IT GOTTA BE MORE , BUT AROUND JUST GENERALLY ANYWAY, IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION REGARDING THE SENIOR VISIBILITY ACTION PLAN? HOPING GET AN UPDATED VERSION OF THIS, THAT KIND OF JUST WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT AND OR WHATEVER, BUT IN THE PUBLIC, WELL, WE CAN SAY THIS IS BEING KNOWN.

JUST EXCHANGE.

ARE WE GONNA GET IT UPDATED? YES.

I SHOULD SAY NO.

DO WE KNOW WHO YOU, ME, BECAUSE YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO PUT THE NAMES.

I CAN.

YEAH.

I, I AGENDA, WELL, MICHELLE AND IT, AT THAT TIME WE WERE A COMMITTEE.

UM, BUT I CAN UPDATE IT WITH THE INFORMATION WILL HELP ME.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

AND THEN WE CAN PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR OUR NEXT MEETING AS WELL.

YEAH.

UPDATED HER AND TO BE CONSIDERED.

AND PROBABLY YOU'LL HAVE TO MAKE A LOT OF CHANGES IN MY DRAFT, BUT I'LL , BUT OKAY.

THAT'D BE PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION REGARDING YOUR SENIOR VISIBILITY ACTION PLAN? MADAM MCC, CAN YOU PLEASE HOLD FOR A VOTE? OF COURSE.

COMMISSIONER CIA.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER SALCITO.

COMMISSIONER HINES.

COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT.

COMMISSIONER SUTHERLAND.

THANK YOU.

VICE CHAIR GIBBONS.

CHAIR VALENCIA.

MOTION CARRIES.

NOW WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TO CONSIDER THE CREATION OF A LONG BEACH CITY BUDGET AND FUNDING FOR AGING ADULTS.

LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN.

LONG BEACH CITY BUDGET AND FUNDING FOR AGING ADULTS AD HOC COMMITTEE.

AND IF APPROPRIATE, APPOINT MEMBERS FOR THAT MAY HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND FOR THIS ITEM.

MR. SMITH.

MAY THIS MOTION MAY ANYBODY SECOND THIS I SECOND.

SECOND.

AND WE CAN NOW DISCUSS, WE CAN NOW DISCUSS CREATING A LONG BEACH CITY BUDGET AND FUNDING FOR AGING ADULTS.

AND WHO BROUGHT THIS ITEM TO THE AGENDA? I, I WASN'T LISTENING IF WHO BROUGHT THIS ITEM TO THE AGENDA? YEAH.

UM,

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OH, OKAY.

YEAH.

ARE WE ON NUMBER FIVE? YES.

YES.

OH, OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION.

THIS WOULD BE A MOTION TO CREATE A, AN AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT WOULD FOLLOW THROUGH ON THE CITY BUDGET LETTER.

IN OTHER WORDS, TO KEEP THE COMMUNICATION FLOWING ABOUT THE LETTER THAT WE'RE SENDING, ASKING THE BUDGET.

SO WE'RE SENDING THE LETTER AND I, IT SEEMED TO ME WE NEEDED AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TO, UM, KEEP FOLLOWING UP ON THAT LETTER AS OPPOSED TO JUST THE, YOU KNOW, OBJECT.

AND I COULD BE ON THAT COMMITTEE, BUT I'D RATHER BE ON ANOTHER COMMITTEE.

BUT, BUT IF IT SEEMS LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO MOST KNOW HOW TO INTERACT WITH CITY HALL, BUT THAT THAT'S, AND THAT'S NOT REALLY ME, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE BEST PEOPLE TO BE ON THE AT BOX COMMUNITY.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, THEY'RE CHECKING BACK WITH IKA OR WHOEVER.

UM, HOW'S IT GOING? WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? WHAT'S YOUR RESPOND? YOU KNOW, THEY GET THE LETTER.

DID YOU GET THE LETTER? UM, YOU KNOW, SIX TIMES GO BY AND WE DON'T HEAR ANYTHING.

THIS REVIEW THAT COMES IN NOW OR SHOULD WE WAIT UNTIL ATHLETES SUBMIT IT AND THEN AFTER THEY REPLY, BE ABLE TO AD HO TO SAY, NOW WHAT? AFTER THEY SAY EXIST, I'M NOT SURE WE NEED THAT.

LIKE RIGHT NOW, WHAT WOULD THEY BE DOING AS AN AD HOC? WHAT MAYBE SHOULD BE WAITING UNTIL AFTER WE SUBMIT THE LAB AND WAIT UNTIL THEY RESPONSE AND THEN SAY, NOW NEED SOMEBODY TO FOLLOW UP THEM AS AS A RESULT OF WHAT THEIR WAS.

YEAH.

DO WE, I'M I'M THE ONLY REASON I PUT IT ON THERE WAS BECAUSE I'M TERRIFIED THAT WE'RE GONNA WANNA DISCUSS SOMETHING AND IT'S NOT ON AGENDA.

OH, .

I, I DID THE BEST I COULD.

I'M TRYING TO LEARN HOW TO DO THIS RIGHT.

I DID ALSO THINK THAT SOMEBODY LIKE JUDY WOULD BE GREAT ON A, ON A AD HOC COMMITTEE TO FOLLOW UP ON THE BUDGET BECAUSE SHE KNOWS HOW SHE KNOWS SHE AND ANYBODY ELSE, BUT WHETHER WE NEED IT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TOTALLY RIGHT.

I THOUGHT JUDY WAS MISSING.

SHE CAN HELP ME STILL SAYING EITHER CAN UNTIL SHE RETURNS AND CAN WE DO THAT? I DON'T KNOW ABOUT STUFF.

CAN WE SAY IT? WE WANNA TALK ABOUT IT NEXT TIME.

JUST INSERT BECAUSE SHE CAN THAT'S FINE.

ARE LEARNING TOGETHER COMMENTS ON MS? UM, YEAH, SO CAN WE, LET'S, UM, SO IF I MAY, THIS ITEM CAN BE LAID OVER IF YOU CHOOSE TO LAY THE ITEM OVER.

UH, JUST ALSO AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN AD HOC COMMITTEE AND A SUBCOMMITTEE, RIGHT? AN AD HOC COMMITTEE IS ONLY FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.

SO IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS ONGOING THAN IT NEEDS TO BE A SUBCOMMITTEE INSTEAD OF AN AD HOC COMMITTEE.

WELL, THEY SHOULDN'T GET SUBCOMMITTEE IF THEY WANTED TO SPEND THE BUDGET THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, MAYBE BECAUSE THEY WOULD LEARN HOW TO PRONOUNCE HIS NAME AND HOW.

QUESTION MOCA.

YES.

TOM MOCA.

MOCA, YES.

QUESTION SENSITIVE.

NOW WE CAN GO TO A SUBCOMMITTEE.

WE DISSOLVED OUR SUBCOMMITTEES BECAUSE WE COULDN'T HAVE THEM AND NOW WE GOING TO AD HOCS BECAUSE IT'S FOR SPECIFIC ONE INTEREST ITEM AND IT DIDN'T HAVE A TIME THING.

SO WE SHOULD NOW HAVE SUBCOMMITTEE AGAIN OR NO, I WASN'T AWARE OF THE HISTORY ABOUT SUBCOMMITTEE.

SO THAT WOULD NEED TO BE A CONVERSATION WITH HEIDI BETWEEN TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU GUYS CAN HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE AND THEN WE COULD POTENTIALLY BRING THIS ITEM BACK THAT WAY.

UM, THE BIGGEST THING IN MY MIND IS THAT THE AD HOC IS ONLY FOR A, A TEMPORARY AMOUNT OF TIME AND THAT ALLOWS US TO, UH, DISCUSS ONE TOPIC, CLOSE THAT UP AND MOVE ON TO A NEXT ONE.

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YOU DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW THE BROWN ACT UNDER A SUB, OR EXCUSE ME, AN AD HOC, BUT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE BROWN ACT UNDER A SUBCOMMITTEE.

UM, SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENCE THERE.

SO WE JUST NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AND THEN WE CAN, UH, LAY THIS ITEM OVER TO THE NEXT MEETING IF YOU CHOOSE AND, UM, GET A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC ON THE INTENT BEHIND IT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW.

HEIDI AND I WILL HAVE TO, UH, DISCUSS ON THE BACKEND WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN HAVE THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

UM, BUT WE WILL, UH, LAY THE, YEAH, WE WILL LAY THIS ITEM OVER AND HOPEFULLY AFTER SPEAKING WITH EVERYBODY AND FIGURING EVERYTHING OUT, WE WILL EITHER HAVE A, A MEETING OR EXCUSE ME, AN ITEM AT THE NEXT MEETING WITH AN AD HOC OR A SUBCOMMITTEE DEPENDING ON THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY ATTORNEY .

AND SO THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT THING BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S WHAT MR. GIVEN THE AD HOC COMMITTEE WHEN THE ATTORNEY CAME, SAID, YOU KNOW, THAT OUR SOLUTION WOULD BE TO HAVE THE AD HOC COMMITTEE AND THEY DIDN'T SAY FOR HOW LONG THAT THEY WOULD BE, BUT THAT THEY HAD TO BE ON A SPECIFIC TOPIC THAT MONTH THE TOPIC WAS FINISHED.

SO IT SEEMS TO ME WE COULD HAVE IT FOR UP TO A YEAR MAYBE, BUT THAT IT HAS TO BE ON THAT SPECIFIC TOPIC.

THAT'S CORRECT.

YEAH.

AND THAT, THAT THAT CAN BE ANYWHERE WITHOUT A COFFEE SHOP OR THAT IS TRUE.

BUT IF IT'S ONGOING DISCUSSION, SO IF WE'RE HAVING A BUDGET EVERY YEAR, THEN IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE AN ONGOING A YEAR TO FOLLOW UP TO GET THIS, MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, WE JUST LOST TO COMMITTEE.

I'M GONNA SORRY.

SORRY MR. HEINS, LIKE RICHARD GIBBONS SUBMIT.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, IT'S, IS IT POSSIBLE IF WE HAVE A MOTION THAT THIS IS THE AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR THE 2027 BUDGET, THE FOLLOW UP LETTER, OUR LETTER, UH, FOLLOW UP, UM, THEN AT THE, WHEN THE, THE NEXT YEAR, DO WE, IS IT WE, CAN WE RENEW THE AD HOC OR DO WE HAVE TO SAY, UH, UH, CREATE A WHOLE NEW AD HOC MOTION? YES.

SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO DISSOLVE THE 20 27 1 AND THEN A NEW AD HOC FOR 2028 IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.

TECHNICALLY IT SHOULDN'T, TECHNICALLY IT SHOULDN'T.

UM, EXACTLY.

THEY WOULD BE SEPARATE AD HOCS, THEY WOULD BE DIFFERENT AD HOCS.

MM-HMM THE, THE FEELING OF THIS, THE PURPOSE OF THIS KIND OF , I WOULD HAVE TO RUN IT BY THE CITY ATTORNEY, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S AN OPTION FOR YOU.

THE 2026 BUTTON.

THIS IS WHAT HE GONNA DO WHEN THEY RESPOND TO US ABOUT THE 2026 BUDGET IS ALREADY DONE.

WE LITERALLY NEED TO BE TALKING ABOUT HAVING AN AD HOC COMMITTEE IN 2026 TO DEAL WITH 2027.

SO FROM NOW UNTIL THE, TO THE END OF THIS YEAR, THIS DOESN'T NEED TO BE A DIALOGUE BECAUSE WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY DONE, THEY'VE DONE, WE ARE ONLY TALKING ABOUT WHAT DID WE DO WHEN THEY DO SOMETHING IN 20 BEFORE 2027.

RIGHT? BUT IF IN FACT, NOT COMMISSIONER IN 2026, IF I TURN OUT OR 27, WE ARE STILL TRYING TO DO THIS AND CREATE SOMETHING FOR PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT BE HERE OR NEW PEOPLE MAY BE HERE.

SO CAN WE TABLE THAT PERIOD UNTIL WE GET THE RESPONSE FROM OUR CURRENT LADY? YOU CAN MAKE A, UH, AN AMENDMENT TO THE RECOMMENDATION TO SAY THAT YOU WOULD LIKE, LIKE TO TABLE THIS ITEM AND THEN SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE TO F MOVE AND SECOND YOUR AMENDED MOTION TO TABLE IT.

AND THEN DEPENDING ON THE VOTE, WE WOULD EITHER MOVE FORWARD THAT WAY OR GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION, WHICH IS TO CONSIDER THE CREATION OF THE AD HOC

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PLANNED AND .

THEN WE CAN CONVERT TO A SUB COMMITTEE.

IF WE DON'T, IF WE NO LONGER WANT AN AD HOC MEETING 'CAUSE WE'RE LIMITED TERMS OF TIME, UH, WE CAN SWITCH IT TO A SUB COMMITTEE.

UM, I DUNNO, I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE BEST JUST TO CREATE THE SUBCOMMITTEE AS IT IS BECAUSE IT'S ONGOING BUSINESS.

BUT THE KEY POINT IS CREATING IT AND THEN DISSOLVING IT AND THEN CREATING AND DISSOLVING A NEW ONE.

SO AFTER YOU DISSOLVE WHATEVER YOU CREATE, IF YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE, YOU CAN OR IF YOU WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH AN AD HOC COMMITTEE, YOU CAN, IT JUST HAS TO BE IZED ON THE, ON THE AGENDA SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANNA PARTICIPATE IN THE CONVERSATION SUBCOMMITTEE.

THAT'S WHY THE ADC.

SO I THINK THAT ONE OF THE DIFFERENCES THAT THE ATTORNEY EXPLAINED A LOT SOUNDS LIKE MUCH BETTER SHARE.

MM-HMM .

OKAY.

SO LET'S SEE.

IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CLAIRE? WE CAN SOLVE SOFT NEWS NOW WHAT YOU SAYING WE CAN GO BACK TO HAVING SUBCOMMITTEE AFTER WE CREATE AD HOC COMMITTEES.

WELL, BECAUSE AD HOC ISN'T, AND DOESN'T CALL THE BROWN ACT, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO A PUBLIC MEETING.

SO ANY SUBCOMMITTEE, IF YOU WANTED TO SUBCOMMITTEE, WE HAD A LOT OF SUBCOMMITTEES LAST TIME, RIGHT? WHERE WE WOULD SOMETIMES HAVE NO REPORTS ON ANYTHING.

SO IT WAS RECOMMENDED, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEY TO LIKE, COULD DISSOLVE THEM BECAUSE IF YOU WOULD JUST HAVE TO HAVE THESE PUBLIC MEETINGS AND WE HAD NO REPORTS, LIKE WE'D ALL HAVE TO GATHER AND DO ALL THESE PUBLIC MEETINGS, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR EVERY TIME YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE TOPIC AND ASSESS MEETING SUB, UM, SUBCOMMITTEE.

SO, UM, THE AD HOC GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO KIND OF THE THREE OF YOU WHO ARE ON THE AD HOC COMMITTEE TO JUST GET TOGETHER AND MEET AND TALK ABOUT IT AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO OUR GENERAL MONTHLY COMMISSION MEETING TO ACTUALLY KIND OF GIVE AN UPDATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON ON THAT, UM, AREA OR OF THAT OBJECT.

SO I IT'S STILL THE BEAUTY, WE STILL HAVE THE OPTION TO HAVE HOUSING, TECHNOLOGY, TRANSPORTATION, TECHNOLOGY, I MEAN SOME COMMUTES THEY CAN'T FORMULATE.

AS LONG AS WE HAVE ENOUGH KNOW WE GIVE THE PUBLIC NOTICE AND WE HAVE IT, UM, IDENTIFIED SO THAT ALL THAT OTHER STUFF IS HAPPENING.

SO THOSE SAME SUBCOMMITTEES COULD ACTUALLY STILL BE EXIST WHILE ADDING THIS AD HOC COMMITTEE SPECIFICALLY NOW FOR THIS BUDGET, SO IF YOU HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE AND LET'S SAY THE THREE OF YOU ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE, YOU COULD ONLY DISCUSS THAT EITHER KNOW IF THERE IS A PUBLIC, RIGHT? RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE WHAT IF YOU HAVE, WE COULD GO TO A COFFEE SHOP OR TALK ABOUT IT.

THAT'S HOW WE GOTTA DO IT.

NOW WE'VE BEEN GOING TO THE AD HOC VERSION POST THE SUBCOMMITTEE DELUSION.

SO THAT'S ONE THING I'M UNDERSTANDING.

NOW I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND AT ALL WHEN WE SAID, WELL THE AD HOC, IT WAS TIME , IT WAS SUBJECT AND IDENTIFYING ISSUE IS, UM, UH, ISSUE HAD NO THE TIME IT WAS, YOU ONLY GONNA WORK ON THIS ISSUE IN YOUR AD.

IT DIDN'T HAVE TIME, BUT NOW SHE'S ADDING TIME AND THAT'S WHY I'M CONFUSED.

WELL, IT'S JUST THAT THE ISSUE SHOULD BE RESOLVED AT SOME POINT AT WHICH TIME THE AONC COMMITTEE WAS RESOLVED.

RIGHT? SO LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LIKE THIS, THE SAFE HOUSE, IF WE GET THE SAFE HOUSE, WE NAME IT AFTER A WE DO THE SAFE HOUSE NORMALLY THAT WAS UNDER THE HOUSING SUBCOMMITTEE.

SO IT IS SENSITIVE IN THAT WE GONNA DO IT, IT'S A THING WE GOING TO DO AND WE GET IT DONE, THEN WE NO LONGER HAVE THE APO.

THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT SET.

BUT IT DIDN'T SAY THAT.

YEAH, IT HAD TO BE WITHIN THE TIME.

IT JUST HAD TO BE WITHIN THE ISSUE.

IT HAS TO BE, MAYBE TIME WAS NOT THE RIGHT WORD TO USE, BUT IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT HAS AN OPEN AND A CLOSE.

YEAH.

THAT THAT'S MM-HMM .

JUST NOT, WE, WE FREQUENTLY WOULD HAVE PHONE CALLS THAT'S NOT THAT BE IN.

OKAY.

ARE THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON WHERE, WHERE ARE WE AT, UH, IN TERMS OF THE ? I'M NOT SURE WHAT, SO THE ORIGINAL MOTION IS TO CONSIDER THE CREATION OF A LONG BEACH CITY BUDGET AND FUNDING FOR AGING ADULTS, A HO

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COMMITTEE AND OF APPROPRIATE APPOINT MEMBERS.

AT THIS POINT WE SEEM TO BE AT THE, UM, IDEA THAT WE'RE GONNA TABLE THIS ITEM OF FOR NOW, AND THEN WE COULD BRING IT BACK ON THE AGENDA AT SOME OTHER POINT.

SO COMMISSIONER HINES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM? UM, DOES THAT MOTION GET A SECOND? SECOND.

OKAY.

WE CAN VOTE ON THAT MOTION.

I'D LIKE THAT IDEA BETTER.

WHAT, WHAT WERE YOUR WORDS? SO WE CAN VOTE ON THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW, WHETHER IT PASSES OR FAILS.

IF IT FAILS, WE CAN GO BACK AND DO IT.

IF YOU WANT IT TO BE, UH, TABLED UNTIL SI YOU WANT IT TO BE TABLED UNTIL THE TOPIC COMES UP AGAIN AND YOU'D LIKE TO TABLE IT TO THE NEXT MEETING, WE CAN .

OKAY.

PERFECT.

OKAY.

YEAH, SO, SO INSTEAD OF PHRASING IT AS WE WANT TO TABLE IT, IS IT, CAN WE LAY IT OVER TO THE NEXT MEETING? YES.

PERFECT.

AND, AND YOU AGREE TO AGREE TO THAT.

ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A FIRST FROM COMMISSIONER HINES AND WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SUTHERLAND.

UM, CHAIR, IF YOU ARE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, YOU CAN TAKE THE VOTE ON THIS ITEM OR EXCUSE ME ON THIS RECOMMENDATION.

IF IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH, THEN WE'LL GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL.

OF COURSE.

COMMISSIONER CHINCH.

COMMISSIONER CETO.

COMMISSIONER HINES.

COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER SUTHERLAND, VICE-CHAIR.

GIBBONS CHAIR VALENCIA.

MOTION CARRIES HERE.

ANNOUNCEMENT FROM COMMISSIONERS.

I'M JUST GONNA GO DOWN THE LINE AND WE ALL HAVE THE CHANCE TO HAVE ANNOUNCEMENTS.

IF YOU HAVE NONE, THAT'S FINE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENT? UH, YEAH, I WENT TO THE TALK ON ELDER AT THE, IN DECEMBER AND IT WAS PRESENTED BY WISE AND HEALTHY AGING.

UM, AND IT WAS EXCELLENT FOR PRESENTATION.

AND THEY HAVE THIS, UM, SOME OF 'EM YOU PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW, BUT I, I SOVIA ALREADY KNOWS THIS, BUT THEY HAVE THIS AMAZING FOLDER, WHICH I HAVE NOW GIVEN TO SEVERAL PEOPLE ALSO AROUND WITH, UH, HOW TO REPORT ABUSE OR NEGLECT AND THEN ALSO SOME OTHER LEADS FOR THEM.

UM, ONE THING I LEARNED THAT I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT WAS, WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT , HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO GET PEOPLE TO LEAVE SITUATIONS.

SO IT BE, UM, FOR MANY REASONS, YOU KNOW, AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE AFRAID OF THE ALTERNATIVE.

SOMETIMES THEY THINK THAT THEY'RE TAKEN ON AND CAN'T MAKE THEIR, BUT UM, HOW EVEN THOUGH YOU GET THROUGH THIS POSITIVE OF REPORTING AND, AND PEOPLE START WORKING IN, LET'S SAY YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD BEING ABUSED OR LIGHTED, UM, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'RE GONNA RESOLVE IT EASILY.

SO I NEED A LOT MORE EDUCATION AND I DISCOVERED THAT THIS WAS THE GIRLS THE SAFE HOUSE WAS ALREADY WORKING WITH, WELL, YOU KNOW, , SO I'M GONNA LEAVE THAT WITH THE SAFE HOUSE GROUP WHEN WE GET TO , BUT I'M GLAD I'M THERE.

I ALSO, YEAH, THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENT I TO SHARE WITH THAT GIRL? NO, THAT'S ALL.

MR. SCHMIDT, DO YOU HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS TODAY? NO.

OKAY.

THAT'S FINE.

COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR TODAY? I DO NOT.

UM, COMMISSIONER HINES, DO YOU HAVE ANY ANNOUNCE I, UH, ORGANIZATION THAT WERE SEEKING THE VICTIMS OF THE GREEN FIRE AND THEY, UM, UM, THEY WERE EDUCATIONAL AND THEY WERE BRAND NEW LAPTOPS TO 18 SCHOOL.

I SAID, BUT HE SO LAPTOP OLDER.

SHE SAID, YEAH, ANY, SO I'M GOING TO GET INFORMATION.

THEY HAVE ONLY LESS THAN 60 LAPTOPS LEFT FOR THEIR, UM, PROGRAM IS .

AND SO I JUST NEED TO KNOW I WANTED TO COME HERE.

AND THEN THE FIRST, THEY SIGN UP AND THEY TAKE CARE INFORMATION.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE INCOME REQUIREMENT, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING.

SHE SAID, IF YOU'RE JUST TELLING ME IT'S FOR SENIORS, YOU KNOW, THEN WE'LL SAY, THIS IS OUR, WE BEST, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUAL AND WE'LL SAY SENIOR AND THEN THEY WILL BE ABLE TO BRAND CASE THE TECHNOLOGY.

AND ,

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YOU HAVE ANY ANNOUNCE TOPICS? COMMISSIONER HEINZ? NO.

COMMISSIONER, DID YOU HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR TODAY? I DO.

GREAT.

JUST WANNA MAKE EVERYBODY AWARE THAT TOMORROW IS AGE IS UP.

HE, UH, AMERICAN SOCIETY OF AGING HAS REALLY GOOD TOOLS AND, AND RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE TOPIC.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

I ALSO HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT AND THAT IS, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S TIME FOR IF OFFICER ELECTIONS COME UP.

THAT'S GONNA BE IN JANUARY.

WE'RE GONNA HOLD THE, UH, ELECTIONS FOR A CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.

I'M TURNED OUT OF A CHAIR POSITION.

UM, SO HERE IS, UH, UH, THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICERS.

SO YOU COULD THINK ABOUT IF, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE THE CHAIR, VICE CHAIR COMING FORWARD, WE'LL HAVE THIS VOTE IN JANUARY.

HER DO YOU HAVE ? YEAH.

SO JUST A COUPLE ANNOUNCEMENTS.

UM, SO, UM, AS YOU KNOW, VANESSA IS HERE FROM OUR CLERK'S OFFICE.

SHE'S GONNA BE, UM, CLERKING OUR MEETING.

THEN INCLUDES LIKE ALL THE AGENDA, THE MINUTES, UM, WHICH YOU GUYS OKAY.

UM, JUST WANNA MAKE A FORMAL, FORMAL ANNOUNCEMENT.

JOHN NEED TO KNOW THAT YOU AND IRENE ARE STILL, UM, HERE AS WELL.

UM, AND THEN ONE THING AS WE MOVE FORWARD, UM, THE AGENDA.

SO ITEMS THAT ARE TO TAKE ON THE AGENDA NOW, WE ALREADY HAVE SOME THAT WE'RE ROLLING OVER, UM, FOR NEXT, UM, TIME.

BUT UM, MOVING FORWARD THEY WOULD GO THROUGH THE CHAIRS.

SO IF YOU WANT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, YOU WOULD GO THROUGH, UM, MICHELLE AND KIND OF DISCUSS WITH HER, HEY, I WANT TO PUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

AND YOU GUYS WOULD KIND OF GO BACK AND FORTH AND FIGURE OUT LIKE WHAT'S THE, UM, THE POINT OF IT, WHAT'S THE OUTCOME THAT WE WANT FROM THAT, UM, ITEM AND KIND OF TALK THROUGH THAT.

AND THEN MICHELLE, UM, WILL, UM, WE'LL UM, MEET WITH, UM, US TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, FORMULATE THE AGENDA.

SO JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, BEEN IN THE PROCESS OF THAT YOU ALSO RECEIVED EVERYONE ON RIGHT SPEED.

UM, THE HANDBOOK, IT'S A BIG DOCUMENT DOCUMENT, SO IT, IT TALKS ABOUT ALL, IT'S ALL THE COMMISSIONS AND AUTHORITY BOARDS IN THE CITY AND LIKE DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAD A RECENT UPDATE OF THAT, BUT THIS ONE WAS UPDATED THIS YEAR.

SO IT'S, IT'S FAIRLY NEW.

UM, SO DEFINITELY LOOK THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THAT, UM, READ THROUGH IT, IT MIGHT HELP SOME OF OUR QUESTIONS AND THEN IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS YOU CAN DEFINITELY REACH OUT.

UM, AND THEN WE ARE PUTTING TOGETHER A BROWN ACT TRAINING.

YOU KNOW, WE DID HAVE ONE, UM, LAST YEAR, SO HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MEETINGS WE'RE GONNA GET THE CITY ATTORNEY HERE TO DO A BROWN ACT TRAINING.

SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THOSE UPDATES.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD LIKE IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY WHEN WE HAVE A NEW CHAIR.

YEAH.

UPON MY BE AROUND THAT, WHAT IS THE TIMEFRAME FOR GETTING THINGS ON THE AGENDA AS WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE PREVIOUS CONVERSATION.

SO WE STILL NEED TO, UM, HAVE IT LIKE THE AGENDA POSTED A WEEK BEFOREHAND.

SO I WOULD THINK SUE MICHELLE PROBABLY LIKE A WEEK AND A HALF OR TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE COMMISSION.

BUT WE WILL SEND OUT, UM, THE INFORMATION AND WHEN YOU WANT STUFF ON THE AGENDA, LIKE THE LETTER THIS TIME, LIKE IT ALL HAS TO BE POSTED ONLINE TOO.

SO YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE YOUR LETTER AND STUFF, UH, OR ANY DOCUMENTATION THAT YOU'RE GONNA PRESENT AT THE MEETING SO THE PUBLIC ARE AWARE OF IT.

UM, WHEN WE POST, SO I WOULD SAY TWO WEEKS TO MICHELLE, WHICH IS THE SAME THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING TO BECAUSE IT TAKES ABOUT A GOOD WEEK OF TO MOVE THE AGENDA POLL TO GET .

SO THE, THE TIME PERIOD FOR THREE WEEK, YOU'RE LOOKING AT BIG FROM THIS MEETING FOR THE MIDDLE OF , WHICH I THINK IS, NEEDS TO BE IN OUR BRAIN BECAUSE WE WEREN'T USED TO WORKING ON THAT BEFORE.

AND THAT'S WHERE I FINALLY FIGURED OUT THAT IF I WAS GONNA WRITE IN THE LETTER, I HAD TO WRITE IT ALMOST AFTER THE LAST WELL YEAH.

AND IT WOULD BE LIKE, YEAH, THIS MEANS THE NEXT THING.

BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT LIKE CAME UP, LIKE AFTER WE, YOU KNOW, PUT THE AGENDA THAT WILL, THOSE TWO WEEKS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PUT FOR THE NEXT TOO.

SO IT STUFF MAYBE BEFORE THE MEETING THAT YOU WAS THOUGHT ABOUT COULD GO TO THE NEXT MEETING TOO.

IF IT'S ALREADY POSTED ON EACH AGENDA, YOU COULD GO UNDER ANNOUNCEMENTS, YOU COULD GO OVER, BUT THEN ALSO VANESSA WAS SAYING SHE HELPS, YOU KNOW, SHE LOOKED AT THE THE REC, BUT I TRIED TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE, UH, AGENDA, BUT THEN SHE WAS ABLE TO ADD TO IT TO MAKE IT POSSIBLE.

YEAH.

AND THAT'S OTHER THING.

SO I'M JUST SAYING IF YOU HAVE AN IDEA, IT MAY TAKE A LITTLE WHILE.

UM, YOU KNOW, IF I'VE LEARNED ONE THING, IT'S THE TO HAVE THAT TRUST.

YEAH.

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AND THAT STUFF ALONG, BECAUSE SOMETIMES ON THE AGENDA WE'VE PUT STUFF THAT LIKE JUST BASICALLY RECEIVING FILE.

WE PUT RECEIVING FILE, WHICH I'VE LEARNED MORE RECENTLY IS JUST REALLY WE'RE JUST RECEIVING FILE.

WE'RE NOT DISCUSSING IT AGAIN.

LIKE IT JUST GOES INTO, YOU KNOW, JUST THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT.

BUT SHE'S HERE TO REALLY LIKE FIGURE OUT LIKE WHAT SHE'S WANTING TO DO AND LIKE MAKE ACTIONS TO MOVE THESE LETTERS ALONG OR MOVE YOUR ADVOCACY ALONG.

MM-HMM .

AND I WILL SAY THE TIME BETWEEN WHEN YOU GIVE IRENE THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE POINT WHERE THEY GET TO MEET, THAT'S WHEN I'LL BE WORKING ON CHANGING THEM.

SO YEAR'S TIMEFRAME IS STILL THE SAME, IT'S STILL NOT MUCH TIME FOLKS THAT, UM, WELL IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, I GET STARTED MEETING ADJOURNED AT 11:08 AM.