Oct 15, 2025 Police Oversight Commission

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ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA BE GETTING STARTED SHORTLY.

I'D LIKE TO CALL

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UM, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLE COMMISSIONER ROCO PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER ATCH.

COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL PRESENT, COMMISSIONER BROWN.

COMMISSIONER BENDER, VICE CHAIR SOTO, PRESENT, CHAIR TNI.

PRESENT.

WE HAVE A QUORUM.

THANK YOU .

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[1. 25-56729 Recommendation to approve the minutes for the Police Oversight Commission meeting of Thursday, July 16, 2025.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE POLICE OVERSIGHT COMMISSION MEETING OF THURSDAY, JULY 16TH, 2025.

UM, MAY I HAVE A MOTION? MI MOVED BY MICHAEL SOTO, SECONDED BY GUSTAVO OROZCO.

IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON, UH, ON THIS ITEM? IF THERE'S ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM ONE, PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM NOW.

SCENE NONE.

CHAIR COMMISSIONERS CAST YOUR VOTE TO, UM, UH, TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE POLICE OVERSIGHT COMMISSION HELD JULY 16TH, 2025.

AND FOR THE RECORD, COMMISSIONER BENDER JUST ARRIVED TO THE MEETING.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO CAST YOUR VOTE VERBALLY? YES, IS MY VOTE.

THANK YOU.

.

MOTION IS CARRIED.

THANK YOU.

UH, PRIOR TO THE NEXT NIGHT, UH, NEXT ITEM I WOULD LIKE TO ASK DIRECTOR CARRIAGE TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW COMMISSIONER.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

CHAIR TUSHNET.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME TO THE POLICE OVERSIGHT COMMISSION, EDGAR ED CAMPBELL.

UM, ED IS A RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT PROFESSIONAL WITH MORE THAN 35 YEARS OF PUBLIC SAFETY EXPERIENCE ACROSS CALIFORNIA.

HIS DEDICATION TO PROMOTING ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY, UM, AS WELL AS PUBLIC TRUST IN LAW ENFORCEMENT INSPIRED HIM TO STUDY CRIMINAL JUSTICE AT THE CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY OF HAYWARD.

UM, FOR THE PAST DECADE, ED HAS WORKED AS AN INVESTIGATOR WITH THE LAW OFFICES OF THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY, ALTERNATE PUBLIC DEFENDER.

ED IS ALSO, UM, A RESIDENT OF LONG BEACH AND HAS BEEN SINCE 2015, AND I'LL GIVE HIM A MOMENT TO SAY HELLO.

HELLO.

THANK YOU FOR THAT INTRODUCTION.

I APPRECIATE IT.

UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, PARTICIPATING IN THE COMMISSION AND, UH, HOPEFULLY BE A, UH, A HELP.

AND, UM, YEAH, LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

THANK YOU.

WELCOME.

UM, RECOMMENDATION MME. CLARK, PLEASE READ THE NEXT ITEM, ITEM TWO, RECOMMENDATION TO SOLICIT FEEDBACK, DISCUSS AND APPROVE THE 2025 OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT COMPLAINT INVESTIGATION REVIEW REPORT.

[2. 25-56730 Recommendation to solicit feedback, discuss, and approve the 2025 Office of Police Oversight Complaint Investigation Review Report.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

I I'M NOT DOING THIS RIGHT.

UM,

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WOULD THERE BE A, A MOTION TO MO IS THERE A MOTION TO RECEIVE THE REPORT? IT SAYS WAITING, UM, MOVE BY MOTION BY, UH, VICE CHAIR SOTO TOTO.

AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.

YEAH, COMMISSIONER ROSASCO.

OKAY, I GOT IT.

NOW I'M SEEING IT.

UM, I WILL NOW HAND IT OVER TO DIRECTOR CARRIAGE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR.

UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, IN OUR LAST MEETING, WE SET THE FOUNDATION REGARDING HOW THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT WAS PLANNING, UM, TO REVIEW CLOSED CASES PRESENTED BY INTERNAL AFFAIRS.

AS PART OF OUR CHARGE, WHAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO IS LOOK AT CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THOSE CASES.

UM, AND WE DID COME TO THE MEETING TO PREPARE THE, UM, THE COMMISSIONERS WITH WHAT THEY WERE GONNA RECEIVE IN THIS REPORT.

SO THAT WAS SENT OUT IN YOUR PACKET LAST WEEK, AND WE'RE HOPING THAT YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ IT.

WE WILL GO OVER THE OUTCOMES OF THAT REPORT AND NOT GO OVER THE ENTIRE REPORT ITSELF.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK.

UM, BUT PRIOR TO SETTING, UM, THIS REVIEW IN MOTION, THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO COVER THAT I THINK ARE IMPORTANT AS A PART OF THIS REVIEW.

UH, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS IS THERE IS NO PERFECT INVESTIGATION.

SO WHILE WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE CASES, WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO WAS TAKE APPROXIMATELY A HUNDRED CASES.

UM, MOST OF THEM WERE COMPLETED WITHIN THE LAST YEAR TO YEAR AND A HALF.

BECAUSE THE OFFICE IS NEW, WE DID HAVE ACCESS TO CASES THAT MAY HAVE BEEN COMPLETED IN 20 23, 20 24.

UM, SO THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT IN THE REAR, IF YOU WILL.

WE'RE NOW SETTING UP THE REST OF THE PROCESS TO MOVE FORWARD TO GETTING CASES AS THEY ARE FINISHED.

BUT KEEPING IN MIND, AS YOU WILL SEE IN THIS REPORT, THE AVERAGE TIME IT TAKES INTERNAL AFFAIRS, THE COMPLETED CASE IS RIGHT AROUND 10 MONTHS.

UM, SO ALTHOUGH WE MAY RECEIVE IT NOW, THE INCIDENT ITSELF MAY HAVE HAPPENED ALMOST A YEAR AGO.

UM, SO THIS IS JUST SOME OF THE BACKGROUND I WANNA GIVE YOU AS I GO THROUGH THESE NUMBERS.

UM, WE ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE IA INVESTIGATORS, WHEN THEY START THEIR CAREER IN THAT UNIT, THEY ARE ALREADY WALKING INTO AND INHERITING A BACKLOG, BACKLOG OF CASES, UM, THAT IS BASED ON THE PROCESS.

SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE, THE TIMELINESS OF SOME OF THESE CASES, IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE PROCESS THAT THE LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT CURRENTLY HAS IN PLACE.

AND IT IS NOT INDICATIVE OF THE LACK OF EFFORT ON BEHALF OF THE INVESTIGATORS.

SO I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE PUBLICLY.

UM, THEY ARE TRYING TO GET THROUGH THESE CASES AS EFFICIENTLY AND DILIGENTLY AS POSSIBLE BASED ON THE, THE PARAMETERS THAT THEY HAVE, THE WAY THAT THEIR SYSTEM IS SET UP.

UM, AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, WE DID HIRE A CONSULTANT TO LOOK AT THE PROCESS ITSELF.

WE'RE HOPING TO COME BACK WITH THE FINDINGS OF THAT AUDIT, UM, PROBABLY TOWARDS JANUARY, OR WE MAY HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING IN FEBRUARY.

IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE TIME IT WILL TAKE FOR THEM TO GET THROUGH EVERYTHING.

WE'RE BASICALLY UNPACKING A LOT OF, UH, HOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS DONE THEIR BUSINESS WHEN IT COMES TO ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATIONS, UM, AND ASKING THEM TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THEIR OFFICERS.

UM, SO I WANNA START WITH THAT AND MOVING INTO, UM, THE DATA POINTS THAT WE'RE GONNA COVER.

WE'LL START WITH THE FIRST ONE, AND THAT'S TIMELINESS.

SO, UM, PRIOR TO GOING INTO THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WHEN IT COMES TO POLICE INVESTIGATIONS OR ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATIONS REGARDING MISCONDUCT OF OFFICERS, THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT USE IS THE, UH, PEACE OFFICER BILL OF RIGHTS, OR BETTER KNOWN AS P-O-B-R-P-O-B-R, ALLOWS FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO DO AN INVESTIGATION AND, UM, COMPLETE THAT INVESTIGATION AND ALSO IMPOSE ANY DISCIPLINE WITHIN 365 DAYS.

SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE TIMELINESS OF THESE CASES, THERE WERE NO POBR VIOLATIONS.

SO I WANNA PUT THAT OUT THERE A LITTLE BIT EARLY, WHICH MEANS THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY WERE ABLE TO GET THESE CASES COMPLETED BEFORE, UH, THE REQUIRED MANDATE OF 365 DAYS.

HOWEVER, WITH THAT SAID, UM, THERE WERE DELAYS BASED ON THE PROCESS.

SO THE OPO REVIEWED HOW QUICKLY INVESTIGATIONS MOVED THROUGH THE PROCESS BY BENCHMARKING SPECIFIC POINTS IN TIME DURING THAT INVESTIGATION.

THAT'S THE PARAMETERS WE USED.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE WOULD SAY, WHEN DID THE COMPLAINT COME IN TO, WHEN

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UM, WHAT WE NOTED IS, ON AVERAGE, AN INVESTIGATOR COULD COMPLETE ALL INVESTIGATIVE STEPS WITHIN TWO TO FOUR MONTHS IF THERE WERE NO DELAYS IN THE INVESTIGATION.

LIKE IF THERE WAS NO PENDING LITIGATION, WHICH REQUIRED THE INVESTIGATION TO BE DELAYED OR TOLD, IS WHAT THEY CALLED IT.

UM, SO WE DID TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ALL REASONABLE DELAYS IN CASE COMPLEXITIES.

UM, BUT OVERALL, WE BELIEVE THAT, UM, THE CASES COULD BE COMPLETED WITHIN TWO TO FOUR MONTHS.

AND RIGHT NOW, ON AVERAGE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TAKES AN AVERAGE OF, UH, 295 DAYS, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 10 MONTHS TO COMPLETE AN INVESTIGATION.

SO WE PLAN THROUGH THE AUDIT, TO WORK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO, UM, CREATE A BETTER EFFICIENT PROCESS SO THAT THESE DELAYS, UM, DON'T NEED TO TAKE PLACE.

BASICALLY, IT IS SOMETHING THAT NOT ONLY AFFECTS THE COMMUNITY REGARDING THE EFFICIENCY OF THE COMPLAINT PROCESS OR THEIR TRUST IN THE COMPLAINT PROCESS, BUT IT ALSO CAN AFFECT OFFICERS AND THE MORALE ASSOCIATED WITH COMPLAINTS.

SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT WE LOOKED AT.

UM, AND BASED ON THE, THE MEASURES THAT WE USED, 83 OF THE 100 CASES WE REVIEWED WERE NOT TIMELY.

AND AN ADDITIONAL 17 WERE, UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS MOVED TOWARDS AN ALTERNATIVE CASE REVIEW SYSTEM.

BUT EVEN WITH THAT SAID, WE THINK THAT THEY COULD DO MUCH BETTER.

SO WE HOPE THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THEM TO GET THEM INTO SOME TYPE OF SYSTEM THAT'S A LOT MORE EFFICIENT.

UH, THE SECOND REVIEW AREA OR CRITERIA IS THOROUGHNESS.

UM, INTERNAL AFFAIRS IS THE FACT FINDING BODY THAT PREPARES INVESTIGATIONS TO BE PRESENTED TO THE DECISION MAKING BODY.

SO DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF CASE THAT IT IS, THE DECISION MAKING BODY WILL EITHER BE THE EXECUTIVE TEAM OR THE CHIEF OF POLICE.

SO, WHEN REVIEWING AN INVESTIGATION FOR THOROUGHNESS, THE LPO ASSESSED WHETHER EACH CASE INCLUDED ALL NECESSARY INVESTIGATIVE STEPS THAT WOULD INCLUDE INCULPATORY AND EXCULPATORY EVIDENCE.

AND IF ALL WITNESSES WERE, UM, INTERVIEWED, IF ALL EVIDENCE WERE REVIEWED, THAT WOULD INCLUDE BODY-WORN CAMERAS, REPORTS, AND STATEMENTS.

AND THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS TO ENSURE THAT THE INVESTIGATIONS ARE OBJECTIVE, THEY'RE COMPLETE, AND THAT IT WOULD ALLOW AN INFORMED DECISION TO BE MADE BY EITHER THE EXECUTIVE TEAM OR THE CHIEF OF POLICE.

SO BASICALLY, THE INVESTIGATION ITSELF IS THE FOUNDATION OF A FAIR OUTCOME TO THE PEOPLE IT'S BEING PRESENTED TO, BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT BE INTIMATELY KNOWLEDGEABLE OF THE NUANCES OF THE INVESTIGATION.

SO THE OPO FOUND THAT 92% OF THE CASES WE REVIEWED, KEEPING IN MIND THAT THE, IT WAS AN EVEN NUMBER OF A HUNDRED, WE THOUGHT THAT WOULD JUST BE EASIER 'CAUSE I STINK AT MATH.

SO WE STOPPED AT A HUNDRED.

UM, WE FOUND THEM TO BE THOROUGH OF THE REMAINING 8% THAT WE DID NOT DEEM THOROUGH.

WE CANNOT DETERMINE IF THE WORK WAS NOT DONE BY INTERNAL AFFAIRS OR JUST NOT PROVIDED TO THE OPO.

SO WE REVIEW THE CASES WHEN THEY'RE CLOSED, THEY SEND ALL OF THE INFORMATION OVER TO US IN A SHARED DRIVE.

UM, IF THE INFORMATION WAS NOT THERE, WE DEEMED IT AS NOT BEING THOROUGH.

SO OF THE A HUNDRED CASES, WE REVIEWED 26 OF THOSE INVESTIGATIONS, UH, INVOLVED USE OF FORCE.

SO OF THE 26 THAT WE REVIEWED, 88% OF THEM WERE DEEMED THOROUGH.

ALL RIGHT, THE NEXT SECTION THAT WE TOOK INTO ACCOUNT WAS ALLEGATIONS.

UM, IF YOU REMEMBER LAST MEETING WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT HOW THE LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY USE THE TERM ALLEGATIONS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN MOST OTHER, UM, JURISDICTIONS OR LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.

UM, SO EACH ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION COULD INCLUDE MULTIPLE ALLEGATIONS AND MULTIPLE ACCUSED OFFICERS.

ONE ALLEGATION MAY HAVE MULTIPLE POSSIBLE VIOLATIONS OF POLICY.

EACH ALLEGATION LISTED IS GIVEN A DISPOSITION OR FINDING AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE INVESTIGATION.

SO, TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THIS, UM, ALLEGATION ONE, MAY REED, OFFICER X TOLD THE COMPLAINANT, IF SHE DIDN'T MOVE HER SUITCASE FROM THE DRIVEWAY, HE WOULD RUN IT OVER WITH HIS PATROL CAR.

SO THE ALLEGATION IS THE ACTUAL ALLEGED ACTION THAT THE OFFICER, UM, IS ACCUSED OF DOING.

BUT WITHIN

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SO, LIKE THE EXAMPLE I JUST GAVE, THE TYPE OF POLICY VIOLATIONS THAT COULD BE INCLUDED WOULD BE 3.1 PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT, 3.2 GENERAL RESPONSIBILITIES, 3.4 CONDUCT TOWARDS THE PUBLIC, 3.6 PERSONAL CONDUCT, 3.7 STANDARDS OF CONDUCT.

SO ALTHOUGH YOU HAVE ONE ALLEGATION, IT HAD FIVE POSSIBLE VIOLATIONS OF POLICY.

SO OF THE HUNDRED INVESTIGATIONS WE REVIEWED, THERE WERE 799 POSSIBLE VIOLATIONS OF POLICY TO INCLUDE 26 INVESTIGATIONS WITH 51 ALLEGATIONS OF EXCESSIVE USE OF FORCE.

AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CLEARED UP AROUND THAT, WE CAN ADDRESS IT TOWARDS THE END.

BUT THIS IS JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, HOW BIG IT MAY BE.

SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DISPOSITIONS, WHICH IS THE NEXT SECTION, UM, OF THIS REVIEW, UM, IT'S GONNA ADDRESS EACH AND EVERY POSSIBLE VIOLATION OF POLICY.

SO THE NUMBERS LOOK A LITTLE BIT BIGGER.

SO AT THE CONCLUSION OF EACH INVESTIGATION, A DISPOSITION IS GIVEN, WHICH IS THE OUTCOME OF THE INVESTIGATION.

OF THE 799 ALLEGED POLICY VIOLATIONS INCLUDED IN THE HUNDRED INVESTIGATIONS REVIEWED, WE AGREED 89% OF THE TIME WITH THE FINAL DISPOSITION, OFTEN WE WERE NOT IN TOTAL DISAGREEMENT OF THE REMAINING 11%, BUT WE FELT THAT THE DEPARTMENT DID NOT ADDRESS EVERY CONCERN PRESENTED IN THE CASE.

SO WITHIN THAT, UH, WHEEL, THERE, YOU CAN SEE THE DEFINITIONS WHEN IT COMES TO DISPOSITIONS.

THERE, THE DEFINITIONS ARE LISTED ON THE SIDE.

UNFOUNDED BASICALLY MEANS THAT THE INVESTIGATION CLEARLY ESTABLISHED THAT IT WAS NOT TRUE, AND THAT WAS THE CASE 26% OF THE TIME.

EXONERATED MEANS THAT WHAT THE COMPLAINANT ALLEGED ACTUALLY DID HAPPEN, BUT IT DID NOT VIOLATE POLICY.

THAT WAS 1% OF THE TIME.

NOT SUSTAINED MEANS THAT THE INVESTIGATION COULD NOT YIELD.

UM, IT COULDN'T PROVE OR DISPROVE WHAT WAS ALLEGED.

THAT WAS 9% OF THE TIME SUSTAINED, MEANING THAT THE INVESTIGATION DISCLOSED SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE TO PROVE THAT IT WAS TRUE, THAT THE ALLEGATION WAS IN FACT TRUE.

THAT WAS 52% OF THE TIME.

AND THEN OTHER, UM, IS KIND OF UNIQUE TO THE LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHERE IT MEANS THAT THE OFFICER DID IN FACT COMMIT THE ALLEGED, UM, COMPLAINT.

WHAT WAS ALLEGED, THE, THE ALLEGATION, HOWEVER, IT WAS NOT MISCONDUCT, BUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DID SEE THAT THERE WAS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT.

SO TYPICALLY, IF YOU SEE OTHER, THERE'S SOME ASSOCIATED TRAINING INVOLVED WITH THE OFFICER'S ACTION.

UM, THAT WAS 12% OF THE TIME.

RIGHT? SO WHEN IT COMES TO BODY-WORN CAMERA, EVEN THOUGH WE LABELED THIS, THIS SECTION BODY-WORN CAMERA, IT IS IN FACT, UM, WHETHER OR NOT BODY-WORN CAMERA OR AN INITIAL INVESTIGATION COULD HAVE RESOLVED THE COMPLAINT WITHOUT IT GOING THROUGH THE ENTIRE STEPS, UM, OF THE INVESTIGATIVE PROCESS.

SO I'LL JUST READ THIS LITTLE BIT.

UM, BODY-WORN CAMERAS, OR BWC AS THEY'RE KNOWN, SURVEY VITAL, UM, SERVE AS A VITAL TOOL FOR A SWIFTLY RESOLVING COMPLAINTS AND ADDRESSING ALLEGATIONS OF MISCONDUCT BY OFFERING AN OBJECTIVE REAL-TIME RECORD OF INTERACTIONS BETWEEN OFFICERS AND THE PUBLIC.

BWC FOOTAGE ENSURES THAT INCIDENTS CAN BE REVIEWED WITH BOTH ACCURACY AND TRANSPARENCY.

IMMEDIATE ACCESS TO THIS VIDEO EVIDENCE CAN LEAD TO A QUICKER COMPLAINT RESOLUTION, THEREBY REDUCING THE NEED FOR PROTRACT.

UH, I DON'T PROTRACTED, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE WORD.

WELL, LONGER INVESTIGATIONS AND ALLEVIATING THE BURDEN OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND DEPARTMENT RESOURCES IF THE WORD IS PROTRACTED.

THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING HEIDI GAVE ME BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT WORD, BUT SHE'S A LITTLE BIT SMARTER THAN ME.

SO, UM, SO BASICALLY WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE, UM, 100 CASES, WE FOUND THAT IN 55% OF THOSE INVESTIGATIONS, EITHER AN INITIAL REVIEW OR REVIEW, A BODY-WORN CAMERA, UM, WOULD HAVE RESOLVED THE INCIDENT IMMEDIATELY.

UM, BUT LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE PROCESS CURRENTLY STANDS, UM, ANY COMPLAINTS HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE SERIES OF ALL THE STEPS OF AN INVESTIGATION.

BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO HELP THEM RESOLVE THESE SOONER, BECAUSE NOT ONLY DOES IT GIVE RESOLUTION TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBER TO UNDERSTAND WHY THINGS HAPPEN, TO GET A BETTER, UM, EXPLANATION, IF YOU WILL, ABOUT AN INCIDENT, IT WON'T TAKE THEM 10 MONTHS TO GET SOME TYPE

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UM, IT'S MORE INTERACTION BETWEEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMUNITY TO, TO DEAL WITH THESE ITEMS A LITTLE BIT SOONER.

BUT IT ALSO HELPS THE OFFICERS TO, WHEN THEY HAVE VIOLATED POLICY, GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THAT HAS BEEN VIOLATED SOONER.

UM, INSTEAD OF WAITING 10 MONTHS, OR IF THEY HAVEN'T VIOLATED POLICY, THEY'RE NOT SITTING AROUND WAITING FOR THEIR FATE FOR 10 MONTHS.

SO IF WE CAN USE, UTILIZE THE CAMERAS MORE, UM, EFFICIENTLY TO REMOVE ANY UNNECESSARY COMPLAINTS OUT OF THE PROCESS, IT WOULD ALSO CLEAR UP SOME OF THE BACKLOG AS WELL.

SO THAT'S THE AREAS THAT WE LOOK AT, UM, THROUGH THE REVIEW OF INTERNAL AFFAIR INVESTIGATIONS, THE LPL ALSO GAINED INSIGHT INTO OTHER AREAS NEEDING TO BE ADDRESSED.

SO SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS BELOW ARE SPECIFIC TO CONCERNS BROUGHT FORWARD BY THE COMPLAINTS THAT WE REVIEWED, WHILE OTHERS, OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS WERE DEVELOPED FROM OTHER THINGS THAT WE NOTED DURING THE REVIEW.

SO NOT ONLY DID WE LOOK AT THE PREVIOUS, UH, ISSUES THAT WE MENTIONED REGARDING TIMELINESS, THOROUGHNESS, UH, ALLEGATIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT WE ALSO MIGHT HAVE SEEN OTHER THINGS THROUGHOUT THE INVESTIGATIVE PROCESS OR OUR REVIEW PROCESS THAT WE THOUGHT WERE CONCERNING AND NEEDED SOME TYPE OF, UM, POTENTIAL ADJUSTMENT BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO WE DID COME UP WITH 12, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS.

THESE ARE NOT ALL ENCOMPASSING.

THERE ARE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WILL COME OUT OF SOME OF THE CASES WE REVIEWED, BUT THOSE WILL LIKELY BE, UM, IN THE ANNUAL REPORT.

THESE ARE JUST THE 12 THAT WE THOUGHT WERE AT A HIGHER LEVEL, UM, AND MAYBE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT, UM, ON A BIGGER SCALE, IF YOU WILL.

SO STARTING WITH THAT, THE VERY FIRST RECOMMENDATION IS ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND ASSAULT INVESTIGATIONS BY PATROL OFFICERS ON SEVERAL OCCASION, THE OPL HAD OBSERVED.

UM, LBPD OFFICERS ARREST BOTH PARTIES TO CAUSE OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OR ASSAULT.

WHEN THERE ARE CONFLICTING STORIES, INSTEAD OF DOING FURTHER INVESTIGATIONS TO DETERMINE WHICH STORY IS FACTUAL, UM, THERE SHOULD BE AN EXPECTATION THAT OFFICERS WILL DILIGENTLY COLU CONDUCT ON SCENE INVESTIGATIONS AND ONLY ARREST THE APPROPRIATE PERSON OR PERSONS DURING A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION.

SO THAT'S THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION.

RECOMMENDATION NUMBER TWO.

UM, THIS ONE'S A LITTLE LONG, I'M GONNA APOLOGIZE AHEAD OF TIME, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME TO READ ALL OF IT.

UM, IS EFFICIENT USE OF OFFICERS AT CALLS, UH, DURING THE REVIEW OF BODY-WORN CAMERA FOOTAGE ASSOCIATED WITH COMPLAINTS.

THE LPO OBSERVED CONCERNING PATTERNS OF MULTIPLE OFFICERS BEING PASSIVE OBSERVERS AS OPPOSED TO ACTIVE PARTICIPANTS AT LOCATIONS OF AN INCIDENT.

WHILE THERE MAY BE A NEED TO HAVE MULTIPLE OFFICERS AT THE SCENE IN THE BEGINNING OF A CALL FOR SAFETY REASONS, WE NOTED, UH, NUMEROUS CASES WHERE ADDITIONAL OFFICERS REMAIN AT THE INCIDENT WITHOUT ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING ON THE CALL OR OTHERWISE APPEARING TO SERVE A USEFUL PURPOSE.

WHEN PLACING A CALL TO REQUEST A POLICE RESPONSE, THE COMMUNITY MAY BE WARNED THERE ARE LIMITED RESOURCES TO ADDRESS THEIR PROBLEM IN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME, AND THAT THE WEIGHT COULD BE LENGTHY.

OBSERVING MULTIPLE OFFICERS STANDING AROUND MAY GIVE THE COMMUNITY THE PERCEPTION OF INEFFICIENCY, WHILE ENSURING SAFETY AND SUPPORT AT THE SCENE IS CRITICAL, HAVING MORE OFFICERS PRESENT THAN NECESSARY CAN DELI CAN LIMIT THE DEPARTMENT'S ABILITY TO RESPOND QUICKLY TO OTHER COMMUNITY NEEDS.

SO WE RECOMMEND THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THAT LBPD SET CLEAR GUIDANCE ON HOW LONG OFFICERS SHOULD REMAIN ON A CALL AFTER SAFETY IS UNDER CONTROL AND THE OFFICER HAS NO RESPONSIBILITIES AS A PART OF THE INVESTIGATION.

SUPERVISORS SHOULD ENCOURAGE OFFICERS TO CLEAR FROM INCIDENTS WHEN THEIR PRESENCE IS NO LONGER REQUIRED SO THAT OTHER CALLS FOR SERVICE CAN BE HANDLED.

THIS WILL HELP ENSURE THAT RESOURCES ARE USED EFFICIENTLY, OFFICERS ARE AVAILABLE WHEN AND WHERE THEY'RE MOST NEEDED, AND THAT THE COMMUNITY RECEIVES TIMELY SERVICE.

SO RECOMMENDATION NUMBER THREE IS REGARDING, UH, GEL INMATE PROTOCOLS.

UH, INMATE INTERACTION WITH STAFF, UM, DURING WAKEN HOURS BASICALLY IS WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO GET SO THAT IN CASE, UM, THERE'S A POSSIBLE MEDICAL ISSUE WITH INMATES WITHIN THE COUNTY JAIL, THAT STAFF WILL BE AWARE OF IT IN A MORE TIMELY FASHION.

CURRENTLY, IF YOU'RE AN INMATE DURING COUNT, YOU COULD BE SLEEPING THE ENTIRE TIME.

UM, PEOPLE THAT ARE BROUGHT INTO THE LONG BEACH JAIL ARE TYPICALLY THERE, PROBABLY I WOULD SAY ANYWHERE FROM,

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'CAUSE THEY'RE USUALLY WAITING TO BE TRANSFERRED, UM, TO A COUNTY SYSTEM TO BE HELD UNTIL THEY HAVE COURT.

BUT ONE OF THE PROBLEMS YOU GET WITH THIS, THIS TYPE OF INTAKE FACILITY IS THAT IF SOMEONE WAS TRYING TO, UH, SNEAK SOME TYPE OF CONTRABAND IN, LIKE IN THE FORM OF DRUGS OR WHATEVER ELSE, THEY'RE USUALLY GONNA INGEST IT VERY EARLY INTO THEIR ARREST.

EVEN SOMETIMES BEFORE THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN CUSTODY, LIKE WHEN THEY'RE BEING PULLED OVER, UH, THEY MAY INGEST DRUGS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY LEACH INTO THEIR SYSTEM CAUSING HEALTH PROBLEMS. UM, WHAT WE NOTICED, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF JAIL FOOTAGE TO LOOK AT, BUT IT WAS CONCERNING ENOUGH FOR THE FEW THAT WE DID SEE, UM, IS THAT SOMETIMES WHEN JAIL STAFF IS DOING COUNT, THEY DON'T ACTUALLY ENGAGE OR INTERACT WITH THE INMATES, EVEN IF THEY'RE SLEEPING.

UM, DURING WAKING HOURS, THERE SHOULD BE SOME TYPE OF CALL AND RESPONSE, IF YOU WILL, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PERSON IS NOT POTENTIALLY IN A HEALTH TYPE, UH, CIRCUMSTANCE.

EVEN IF IT'S JUST A QUICK WAKE UP, LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW, SMITH, WE'RE DOING COUNT OR SOMETHING, MAKE 'EM STAND UP.

I DON'T KNOW.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE, UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY SEE VALUE IN, JUST TO ENSURE THAT THERE MIGHT NOT BE HEALTH CONCERNS WITH INMATES THAT THEY'RE ALLOWING TO SLEEP FOR HOURS AT A TIME THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE DEAD AND NOT ACTUALLY SLEEPING.

SO THAT'S, UH, RECOMMENDATION THREE.

UM, AND ON THE HEELS OF THAT, WHEN IT COMES TO JAIL CRITICAL INCIDENTS, WE WOULD JUST RECOMMEND THAT THERE'S A PROCESS AND WE BELIEVE THEY HAVE IT.

I ALMOST PULLED THIS ONE OUT, BUT THERE WAS JUST ONE INSTANCE, UM, OF A, UM, DEATH INSIDE OF THE JAIL DUE TO A MEDICAL ISSUE WHERE THERE WAS CERTAIN FOOTAGE THAT THEY COULD, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT COULD NOT ACCESS.

UM, BECAUSE BY THE TIME THEY GOT TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATIVE PART, IT HAD BEEN WRITTEN OVER.

SO WE ASSUME THAT THEY WOULD TYPICALLY, UM, PULL ALL FOOTAGE, ALL VIDEOS, WHENEVER THERE'S A DEATH IN CUSTODY WITHIN THE JAIL, WHETHER IT'S MEDICAL OR NOT.

SO THAT ONE I DO HAVE TO CHECK ON TO CONFIRM.

IT WASN'T LIKE A FLUKE, IF YOU WILL, UM, FOR THIS PARTICULAR CASE.

AND THAT'S RECOMMENDATION NUMBER FOUR.

UH, RECOMMENDATION NUMBER FIVE IS REGARDING TOLLING.

SO TOLLING JUST FOR THE, THE LAYMAN'S, UM, DEFINITION IS BASICALLY WHEN IT COMES TO AN ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION, WE PREVIOUSLY TALKED ABOUT THE 365 DAYS THAT IS ALLOWED FOR A DEPARTMENT TO CONDUCT AN INVESTIGATION AFTER THEY'RE MADE AWARE, UM, OF A POTENTIAL VIOLATION OF POLICY.

SO TOLLING ALLOWS FOR CERTAIN PROVISIONS WHERE THEY CAN STOP THE CLOCK.

SO IT'S EITHER CALLED PUT IN SUSPENSE OR IT'S LIKE A TOLLING WHERE THEY CAN STOP THE CLOCK.

UM, WHAT WE'VE NOTICED IN SOME OF THE CASES IS THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS USING THIS PROVISION, UM, NOT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW, AS I UNDERSTAND THE LAW TO BE.

SO WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING, OR WHAT OPO IS RECOMMENDING IS THAT THE LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT UTILIZE EXPERIENCED COUNSEL THAT IS WELL VERSED IN THE NUANCES OF THE POBR OR POLICE PEACE OFFICER BILL OF RIGHTS PRIOR TO PLACING A COMPLAINT INVESTIGATION INTO SUSPENSE OR TOLLING.

UM, AND THAT'S BASICALLY TO BENEFIT, UM, THE INVESTIGATION TIMELINE ITSELF AS WELL.

RECOMMENDATION NUMBER SIX IS, UH, IMPROPER CITING OR USE OF CASE LAW BY OFFICERS.

SO DURING OUR REVIEW OF THESE CASES, WE NOTED SEVERAL OCCASIONS WHERE OFFICERS WOULD JUSTIFY ACTIONS TOWARDS COMMUNITY MEMBERS BASED ON THE OFFICER'S INTERPRETATION OF CERTAIN CASE LAWS.

UH, TWO THAT COME TO MIND ARE THAT WE CITED HERE ARE THE USE OF WHAT'S CALLED A RUTHERFORD WARNING.

AND ANOTHER CASE LAW THAT WAS USED SEVERAL TIMES IN SOME OF THESE CASES WAS PENNSYLVANIA VERSUS MIMS, WHICH IS THE CASE LAW THAT ALLOWS OFFICERS TO REMOVE INDIVIDUALS FROM CARS, UM, FOR SAFETY REASONS.

AND WHEN CITED CASE LAW IS APPLIED TO BROADLY OR INCORRECTLY, IT CAN RESULT IN ACTIONS THAT MAY BE UNDULY INTRUSIVE AND OR POTENTIALLY ILLEGAL.

WE RECOMMEND THE DEPARTMENT SURVEY OFFICERS TO DETERMINE WHAT CASE LAWS ARE BEING ROUTINELY RELIED UPON TO SUPPORT DECISION MAKING IN THE FIELD AND IN WHAT CONTEXT.

AND THAT, UM, THE DEPARTMENT INSURERS OFFICERS ARE PROVIDED WITH SUFFICIENT GUIDANCE AND TRAINING ON THE PROPER APPLICATION OF SUCH LEGAL STANDARDS.

UM, SO THAT'S NUMBER SIX.

NUMBER SEVEN IS PRETTY CUT AND DRY.

UH, INTERNAL AFFAIRS MANUAL.

MOST POLICE DEPARTMENTS HAVE 'EM NOT ALL, BUT THE CREATION OF AN INTERNAL AFFAIRS MANUAL WOULD PROVIDE CONSISTENT, FAIR AND TRANSPARENT INVESTIGATION REQUIREMENTS.

THE MANUAL ALSO LETS THE PUBLIC AND OFFICERS KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT

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HANG IN THERE.

I'M ALMOST DONE.

OKAY.

NUMBER EIGHT, UM, IS NOTIFICATION OF AUDIO RECORDED INTERVIEWS.

UH, THE OPO RECOMMENDS THE LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT INTERNAL AFFAIRS INVESTIGATORS INFORM COMPLAINANTS THAT THEIR CONVERSATION WITH THE INVESTIGATOR IS AUDIO RECORDED AT THE START OF THE INTERVIEW.

IT IS NOT A LEGAL REQUIREMENT, UM, THAT THEY DO THAT, BUT WE DO THINK THAT IT WOULD, UM, ASSIST WITH TRANSPARENCY AND TRUST SO THAT PEOPLE JUST ARE AWARE THAT THEY'RE BEING RECORDED.

UH, NUMBER NINE IS AVOID, UM, ADDING BLANKET POLICY VIOLATIONS FOR NON-INVOLVED OFFICERS.

IF YOU REMEMBER THE EXAMPLE I GAVE REGARDING WHEN IT COMES TO ALLEGATIONS, HOW THEY'LL HAVE ALL THESE DIFFERENT POLICIES THAT ARE KIND OF LIKE STACKED ON.

UM, SOMETIMES WHEN THERE'S A COMPLAINT THAT COMES IN, EVERY OFFICER THAT MAY BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE CALL IS GIVEN A 3.1 OR A 3.2.

UM, WE DO BELIEVE WITH A LITTLE BIT OF INITIAL REVIEW OF THE THE SCENE, THE BODY-WORN CAMERA, YOU CAN BETTER DETERMINE WHO'S ACTUALLY INVOLVED WITH THE ALLEGED COMPLAINT AND THAT COULD, UH, REMOVE SOME OF THE DISTRESS THAT BEING A PART OF AN IA PROCESS CAUSES OFFICERS.

UH, NUMBER 10 IS DEFINING THE DISPOSITION IN A CLOSING LETTER TO THE COMPLAINANT.

SO, UM, THE DEFINITIONS I GAVE YOU OF UNFOUNDED EXONERATED, UM, WHICH IS THE FINDINGS OF THE CASE.

WHEN A COMPLAINANT IS TOLD OF THE FINDINGS OF THEIR COMPLAINT, THEY'RE SENT A CLOSING LETTER.

BUT QUITE OFTEN COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE TERMS OF EXONERATED OR UNFOUNDED.

THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

SO ALTHOUGH THEY GOT A DISPOSITION, THEY REALLY GOT NO RESOLUTION.

'CAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW, THEY MAY NOT KNOW WHAT THE FINDINGS ARE.

SO WE'RE JUST ASKING THEM TO ADD THOSE DEFINITIONS TO THOSE LETTERS.

UM, RECOMMENDATION NUMBER 11.

SO, UM, THE LPL RECOMMENDS THAT INTERNAL AFFAIRS MAKE A STAND IN PRACTICE TO CONTACT ALL COMPLAINANTS BY PHONE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE RECEIPT OF THEIR COMPLAINT.

UM, DEPENDING ON HOW INTERNAL AFFAIRS RECEIVES THE COMPLAINT, IF THE INVESTIGATOR BELIEVES THAT THERE IS ENOUGH INFORMATION ALREADY RECEIVED IN THE COMPLAINT, THE COMPLAINANT MAY NOT BE VERBALLY CONTACTED.

THEY MAY JUST RECEIVE A LETTER IN THE MAIL SAYING, THANK YOU, WE GOT IT.

UM, AND WE HAVE 365 DAYS TO INVESTIGATE IT.

BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO ALLOW, UM, COMPLAINANTS TO ACTUALLY HAVE A VERBAL INTERACTION WITH THE INVESTIGATORS TO CLEAR UP ANY CONFUSION OR TO AT LEAST FEEL LIKE THEY'VE BEEN HEARD DURING THE PROCESS.

AND THE LAST RECOMMENDATION, NUMBER 12, UM, IS THAT INTERNAL AFFAIRS OBTAIN HIPAA RELEASE FOR USE OF FORCE COMPLAINTS.

IT'S PRETTY STANDARD PRACTICE, UM, THAT WHEN THERE'S A COMPLAINT ALLEGING EXCESSIVE USE OF FORCE, THAT THE COMPLAINANT SIGNED A HIPAA FORM SO THAT THE DEPARTMENT COULD ACCESS ANY POTENTIAL INJURIES THAT THE COMPLAINANT MAY HAVE.

UM, SO MANY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I JUST MENTIONED AHEAD OF TIME HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION PROCESS.

AND YOU KNOW, LIKE I MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING OF, UH, THE PRESENTATION, WE ARE DOING AN AUDIT SPECIFICALLY INTO TRYING TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS INTO THAT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HOPE TO GET RESOLVED TOWARDS THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR.

AND I AM, UM, AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK STAFF THAT YOU SEE HERE TODAY.

THEY WORKED EXTREMELY HARD ON GETTING THIS REPORT DONE, UM, HELPING ME KEEP MOST OF MY FOLLICLES, WHICH IS LIKE MY EDGES, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

UM, SO THEY WERE COMPLETELY INVALUABLE WITH THEIR HELP AND JUST KIND OF HELPING ME WRAP MY MIND AROUND GETTING THIS DONE AND ALSO THANKING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

UM, THEY HAVE BEEN COOPERATIVE THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, AND I WOULD JUST ASK THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS THE COMMISSION TO KEEP IN MIND, THIS IS A BRAND NEW OFFICE, SO EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE CREATING IT FROM SCRATCH.

UM, AND WE'RE TRYING TO DELIVER THE BEST PRODUCT POSSIBLE TO THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO HELP THEM IMPLEMENT CHANGE THROUGHOUT THIS.

SO, UH, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER 'EM.

THANK YOU.

UM, FRANCINE, AND ARE, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE REPORT? IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM TWO, PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM NOW.

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THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT.

THAT WAS, UM, VERY IN INTERESTING AND ENLIGHTENING.

UM, I JUST HAD SOME QUESTIONS.

UM, ONE, I THOUGHT IT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING WITH THE, UM, OTHER CATEGORY BEING 12%, UM, JUST THINKING ABOUT, AND, AND I MEAN THAT COULD BE VERY MISCELLANEOUS, RIGHT? BUT, UM, IT'S INTERESTING THAT IT'S SUCH A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER AND IT'S TITLED OTHER, UM, I, THAT JUST SORT OF MAKES MY, MAKES MY ANTENNA GO UP.

UM, AND THEN THE, UM, NUMBER OF INSUFFICIENT INVESTIGATION PROCESS OR LIKE, IT FELT LIKE THERE WAS MISSING EVIDENCE OR PIECES.

UM, THAT NUMBER WAS PRETTY HIGH.

AND I SUPPOSE I, I MEAN, HIGHER THAN I WOULD'VE THOUGHT IT WOULD'VE BEEN.

AND I'M JUST KIND OF WONDERING, UM, LIKE IF THERE'S FURTHER LOOKING INTO THAT BECAUSE THAT FEELS SUSPICIOUS, UM, IF SOMETHING IS JUST SORT OF DROPPED, BECAUSE THAT'S JUST WHAT WAY IT READS TO ME IS LIKE SOMETHING GOT SWEPT.

UM, AND THEN RECOMMENDATION NUMBER FOUR WITH THE VIDEO, UM, YES, PLEASE.

I'M GLAD YOU DIDN'T DROP THAT BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY CRITICAL AND I'VE SEEN THAT IN A LOT OF CITIES AND CIRCUMSTANCES AND SITUATIONS, UM, WHERE VIDEO JUST KIND OF GOES AWAY, UM, OR SUDDENLY IS NOT AVAILABLE OR CAN'T BE FOUND.

AND THEN I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THE HANDBOOK.

UM, YOU SAID LIKE A LOT OF CITIES DON'T HAVE THE, OR SOME, SOME DO, SOME DON'T, BUT LONG BEACH DOESN'T HAVE ONE AS OF NOW, OR THEY WERE REDOING.

OKAY.

AND, UM, AND THEN I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THE BLANKET POLICY AROUND LIKE A 3.1 OR 3.2 VIOLATION WHEN, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN THERE'S A, A KIND OF A GROUP ALLEGATION.

UM, AND, AND SO I WAS JUST KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S SORT OF THIS AUTOMATIC, LIKE YOU COULD COME BACK AROUND AND SAY IF AN OFFICER WASN'T DIRECTLY INVOLVED OTHERWISE, BUT WAS A BYSTANDER TO SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING, UM, REAL BAD, THEN YOU COULD APPLY THAT, RIGHT? I MEAN, I, I GUESS I WAS KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT THAT PART.

AND THEN ALSO, UM, I'M ALSO CURIOUS 'CAUSE I MISSED THE LAST MEETING, BUT I WAS WONDERING IF, UM, PARKING WAS BEING MADE AVAILABLE FREE FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THIS MEETING.

AND THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY MORE PUBLIC COMMENTS, UH, COMMISSIONERS ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? YEAH, THANK YOU.

UH, INCREDIBLE JOB.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, FOR TONIGHT.

I THINK THAT, UH, THE LITTLE BITS OF PIECE, THE LITTLE BITS AND PIECES THAT YOU ADDED TO IT DEFINITELY HELPED ANSWER A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD GOING INTO THIS MEETING.

AND AGAIN, STAFF, INCREDIBLE JOB.

UM, I AM CURIOUS HOW MUCH OF THIS REPORT WAS, WAS GUIDED BY THE, UM, THE FOLKS THAT WERE HIRED OR, OR WAS THIS ALL INTERNAL TO THE STAFF? AWESOME.

FANTASTIC.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER COMMENT? UM, YEAH, IF I MAY, YES, I, WONDERFUL JOB.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

UM,

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AND I KNOW THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN BY ACCIDENT.

IT'S BEEN THROUGH A LOT OF WORK TO GET TO THIS POINT.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT AND, UH, CONTINUE THE GOOD WORK.

UM, I GUESS THE ONLY COMMENTS, UM, I HAVE ARE, I, I THINK IT'S KIND OF BEING SAID WITHOUT BEING SAID, I THINK THE TERM OTHER NEEDS TO GO AWAY AND IF THERE'S A WAY TO SUGGEST TO MAKE IT GO AWAY, UH, WE FULLY SUPPORT THAT, AT LEAST I DO.

UM, I THINK IT'S USELESS.

UM, IT'S CONFUSING.

UM, EITHER YOU VIOLATED POLICY OR YOU DIDN'T.

UM, THIS OTHER THING JUST CREATES, UM, FOR ONE, IT CREATES, UM, DISTRUST IN, IN, IN THE WHOLE SYSTEM.

SO I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S USEFUL.

UM, THE, UM, I'M INTERESTED ON HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO, TO CHANGE, AND THIS IS MORE COMMENTARY OF COURSE, I'M NOT SOLICITING A A RESPONSE, BUT JUST I'M, I'M CURIOUS HOW DIFFICULT IT WOULD BE TO CHANGE THE, THE POLICY OR PROCEDURE OF INTERNAL AFFAIRS TO GET SOME OF LIKE THINGS, THOSE, THOSE THINGS DONE HO HOPEFULLY IT'S NOT SOMETHING, SOMETHING THAT I'M SURE YOU'RE BEING, TRYING TO BE CREATIVE WITH IA AND TO GET THEM TO, TO HAVE MOVEMENT.

UM, SPECIFICALLY IN THE THING THAT YOU BROUGHT UP HIGHLIGHTED WITH THE, THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO TRIAGE CASES THAT CAN BE GONE AND, AND REALLY EASILY BODY WORN VIDEOS.

SOMEONE SAYS THEY WERE DISCOURTESY DISCOURTEOUS TO ME, YOU LOOK AT THE BODY WORN, IT'S EITHER TRUE OR IT'S NOT.

THOSE NEED TO GO AWAY.

SO WE CAN FOCUS ON THE ONES THAT HAVE MORE SUBSTANCE THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS AN ANSWER ON AND DESERVES AN ANSWER ON.

SO IF THERE'S A WAY TO KEEP PUSHING ON THAT, FULLY SUPPORT THAT AS WELL.

UM, AND, AND THEN VIDEOS AND AUDIO.

YEAH.

ALWAYS SUPPORT MORE VIDEO, MORE AUDIO.

MM-HMM.

IF THE JAIL IS LACKING VIDEOS AND THEY'RE GOING, THEY'RE GOING AWAY, THEN FULLY SUPPORT, UM, PUSHING THE, PUSHING THE, UH, DEPARTMENT TO, TO FIX THAT SYSTEM AND TO ADD MORE VIDEOS.

SO THINGS LIKE WHEN, WHEN THERE IS AN IN CUSTODY DEATH, UM, THERE IS FULL TRANSPARENCY WITH THOSE, THOSE KIND OF INCIDENTS.

SO THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS, CARL? YEAH.

UM, GREAT JOB.

I KNOW THAT THIS TOOK A LOT OF WORK TO COMPILE ALL OF THIS DATA.

UM, BUT YES, CERTAINLY WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE 55% OF CASES THAT COULD HAVE BEEN RESOLVED VERY QUICKLY EARLY ON.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S A BIG NUMBER.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN COOPERATIVE.

UM, AND YOU ALSO MENTIONED THAT THERE IS A CONSULTANT.

I GUESS WHAT IS, WHAT IS IT THAT THE CONSULTANT IS WORKING ON? OR LIKE, IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OPEN TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS OR ARE THEY WAITING TO DO THAT? GET THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE CONSULTANT? BECAUSE SOME, LIKE HAVING AN, UM, INITIAL TRIAGE, THAT SEEMS LIKE VERY LOW HANGING FRUIT, BUT THAT WOULD GO A VERY LONG WAY TO RESTORE SOME OF THE PUBLIC TRUST.

YOU KNOW, THAT SEEMS LIKE AN EASY FIX.

UM, AND I WOULD LIKE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

I KNOW YOU MENTIONED TAKING IT OUT.

IS THERE IN FACT AN INTERNAL AFFAIRS LIKE INVESTIGATION MANUAL IN PLACE ALREADY? CAN WE GET THAT INFORMATION OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CREATED? THEY CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL MANUAL FOR INTERNAL AFFAIRS, BUT THEY WERE VERY MUCH OPEN TO CREATING ONE.

OKAY.

AND, UM, SAME THING.

IS THERE ALREADY A POLICY IN PLACE FOR HOW VIDEOS ARE, UM, SAVED OR PRESERVED? THEY DO TREAT, UM, IN CUSTODY DEATHS WITHIN THE JAIL AS THEY WOULD ANY OTHER CRITICAL INCIDENT.

AND I HAVE TO DO A LITTLE MORE DIGGING AS TO WHY THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF VIDEO WAS NOT AVAILABLE BECAUSE THIS, UM, IN CUSTODY DEATH WAS ASSOCIATED WITH A SEPARATE ADMINISTRATIVE GENERATED COMPLAINT ABOUT SOMETHING SEPARATE.

SO IT MAY HAVE BEEN THAT THE TIME THAT THAT TRIGGERING HAPPENED, THEY WENT TO LOOK FOR SOMETHING ELSE THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN DIRECTLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE AREA OF THE DEATH THAT OCCURRED.

AND THEN THAT VIDEO WASN'T AVAILABLE BECAUSE IT WAS FURTHER DOWN THE TIMELINE OF WHEN THEY STARTED THAT REVIEW.

SO THAT'S THE PART I HAVE TO DO THE DIGGING ABOUT.

OKAY.

I'M, THANK YOU.

THIS IS REALLY VERY THOROUGH AND EXCELLENT AND I APPRECIATED IT.

UM, THE OVERVIEW YOU GAVE LAST TIME HELPED UNDERSTAND THIS ONE.

I HAVE TWO COMMENTS.

UM, ONE IS THAT THERE ARE, FIRST OF ALL THE FOLLOW UP ON IMPLEMENTATION.

UM, I THINK I, THIS IS, I'M GONNA SAY THIS MANY TIMES BECAUSE IMPLEMENTATION IS EVERYTHING.

I HAVE 40 YEARS OF POLICY STUDY,

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THERE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS ON EVERY TOPIC YOU CAN IMAGINE SITTING ON WALLS NOT BEING DONE.

SO I THINK A RECOMMENDATION FROM ABOUT US SAYING WE SHOULD HAVE REGULAR REPORT OUTS ON WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED IS AND HOW IS AN IMPORTANT THING FOR US TO HAVE TO DO OUR JOB.

UM, THE OTHER COMMENT I HAVE IS, IS THAT IN ADDITION TO THE BODY-WORN CAMERA, LOW HANGING FRUIT, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE AROUND, NUMBER OF POLICE AROUND IS ALSO LOW HANGING FRUIT TO BE IMPLEMENTED QUICKLY AS A RECOMMENDATION.

I HAVE AN, AN IMP AN EXPERIENCE WHERE FIVE COPS SHOWED UP, THAT WAS FINE, BUT AT A CERTAIN POINT, THREE OF THEM WERE STANDING TALKING TO ME.

I HAD BEEN, I HAD CALLED ABOUT SOMETHING, THERE WAS SOMEBODY BROKE INTO MY HOUSE, BUT TH AND TWO OF THEM WERE TAKING CARE OF THAT AND THREE OF THEM WERE JUST CHATTING WITH ME.

I WAS SAFE AT THAT POINT AND I DIDN'T NEED THEM.

THEY WERE TAKING CARE OF IT.

SO I THINK IN ADDITION TO THE BODY-WORN CAMERA IS LOW HANGING FRUIT, SO IS THE LEAVING WHEN IT'S SAFE AND THAT'S CLEAR CAN BE CLEARLY IMPLEMENTED.

IT DOESN'T SPEED THE PROCESS UP, BUT IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC.

'CAUSE WE ALWAYS GET COMPLAINTS.

I GET CALLS ALL THE TIME ABOUT WAIT TIME FOR, UH, FOR SOMEBODY TO COME.

BY THE WAY, THEY CAME VERY QUICKLY FOR ME, SO THAT WAS FINE.

IT WAS FIVE IN THE MORNING, SO MAYBE THEY WEREN'T, HAD NOTHING ELSE TO DO, BUT THEY WERE THERE VERY QUICKLY.

UH, SO THOSE ARE THE TWO POINTS I'D MAKE THE FOLLOW UP ON IMPLEMENTATION MATTERS A GREAT DEAL, AS DOES THE KIND OF LOW HANGING FRUIT TO CLEAR OUT ALL KINDS OF COMPLAINTS.

SO THANK YOU.

I MEAN, THE REPORTS EXCELLENT.

UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS TO BE MADE? I HAVE ONE QUICK OKAY.

YEAH.

UM, ON, ON THE, THE ISSUE WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE PERCEPTION IS ISN'T A GOOD LOOK WHEN YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF OFFICERS HANGING AROUND.

DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE, I KNOW THAT LONG BEACH IS A CITY WHERE IT'S, WHERE SINGLE OFFICERS ARE, ARE ASSIGNED TO A PATROL CAR, AND IS THIS, THERE'S SOME THAT HAVE TWO, BUT OKAY.

I KNOW PRIMARILY ONE PER PER UNIT.

IS THAT CORRECT? IT JUST DEPENDS.

YOU CAN BE TWO OFFICERS TO A CAR.

I THINK IT DEPENDS ON THE AREA YOU'RE IN.

OKAY.

YEP.

I I MAYBE IT'S OKAY THEN MAYBE I'M SHOWING MY AFFLUENCE OR SOMETHING.

'CAUSE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THERE'S ONLY ONE, SO MAYBE I FEEL FEEL LUCKY.

UM, ALTHOUGH DO I GET THE SAME COMPLAINTS THAT PEOPLE ARE NONRESPONSIVE? SOMETIMES POLICE AREN'T RESPONSIVE.

UM, DO YOU GET A SENSE THAT SOMETIMES THIS IS LIKE THEIR TIME TO SOCIALIZE BECAUSE THERE A LOT OF OFFICERS ARE BY THEMSELVES FOR MUCH OF THE DAY.

DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE OF THAT AT ALL? I THINK THAT, UM, ANYTHING, ANY SOLUTION I GIVE WOULD BE SPECULATION, RIGHT? UM, I AM NOT AGAINST HAVING DOWNTIME FOR OFFICERS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF DECOMPRESSING.

MAYBE THEY'VE BEEN ON PREVIOUS CALLS THAT HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT HARD FOR THEM AND THIS IS THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO BE ON A CALL WITHOUT NEEDING TO ACTIVELY ENGAGE IN SOME TYPE OF ENFORCEMENT.

AND THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED A BREAK.

MM-HMM .

VERY MUCH NEEDED.

BUT I THINK THAT THERE ARE BETTER WAYS TO UTILIZE THOSE BREAKS.

UM, THERE ARE PARTS OF THE CITY WHERE OFFICERS CAN, YOU KNOW, PARK AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, BUT YOU HAVE PRESENCE, IF YOU WILL, THAT WILL DETER OTHER CRIMES, UH, THROUGHOUT OTHER AREAS WHERE THEY COULD BE NEEDED.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THOUGHT COULD BE HELPFUL IS MAYBE THERE'S AN ESTABLISHED AMOUNT OF TIME THAT IF AN OFFICER IS ON A CALL BEYOND THAT PERIOD OF TIME, THEY HAVE TO WRITE A REPORT, UM, AND JUST ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT WORK WAS DONE THROUGHOUT THEIR PRESENCE.

AND YOU KNOW, ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER KNOWS YOU DON'T WANT TO CATCH MORE PAPER.

SO YOU'LL SEE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY AT, YOU KNOW, 6.59, IF SEVEN MINUTES IS THE MARK, GO BACK ON BACK ON CALL, YOU KNOW, BE AVAILABLE AGAIN.

BUT WE DON'T WANT TO STIFLE THE NEED THAT OFFICERS HAVE.

WE JUST WANT IT TO BE BUILT INTO A PRODUCTIVE WAY THAT THERE CAN BE SOME CONSISTENCY WITH IT IF A BREAK IS NEEDED.

BECAUSE PERCEPTION IS VERY MUCH REALITY FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND I KNOW THAT WE OFTEN HEAR, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES, BUT THE APPEARANCE IS YOU'RE NOT UTILIZING YOUR RESOURCES APPROPRIATELY.

NO, THANK YOU.

THAT RESPONSE AND I, I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

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THANK YOU MADAM CLERK, PLEASE READ THE NEXT ITEM.

ITEM THREE, RECOMMENDATION TO ESTABLISH AN AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR THE LIMITED PURPOSE OF CREATING A POLICE OVERSIGHT COMMISSION GUIDEBOOK FOR FUTURE COMMISSIONERS WITH SUCH COMMITTEE TERMINATING UPON THE COMPLETION OF THE EVENT.

MAY

[3. 25-56731 Recommendation to establish an Ad Hoc Committee for the limited purpose of creating a Police Oversight Commission guidebook for future Commissioners, with such Committee terminating upon the completion of the event.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

MOTION IS MOVED BY CHARLENE BENDER AND SECONDED BY GUSTAVO OROZCO.

IS THERE ANY PUBLIC I WANT? WHOOPS, I TURNED IT TO THE WRONG PAGE.

UM, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE ITEM? IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM THREE, PLEASE LAND UP AT THE PODIUM NOW.

NO PUBLIC COMMENT CHAIR, NO PUBLIC.

ANY COMMISSIONER COMMENT? SURE.

SO I, I, I PUT THIS ON THE, ARE WE IN THE RIGHT SPOT? ARE WE GOOD? NO, WE'RE GOOD.

WELL, WELL TECHNICALLY NO, BUT, UM, UH, JUST TEEING IT UP FOR VICE CHAIR SOTO.

THIS WAS REQUESTED BY VICE CHAIR TO BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA, SO NOW I WILL HAND IT OVER TO HIM FOR COMMENT.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, .

AND I'M SORRY I DIDN'T DO THIS QUITE, I I NEED A BRUSH UP ON MY PARLIAMENTARIAN RULES.

UH, REAL QUICK, THIS IS JUST, UM, A THOUGHT.

I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN IN OTHER COMMISSIONS, UM, WHERE I CURRENTLY WORK IN, IN SONOMA COUNTY.

THEY'RE DOING IT THERE AND I FIND IT USEFUL.

I THINK, UH, PART OF OUR MANDATE OR OUR PRIMARY MANDATE, AND ONE OF 'EM IS TO, TO DO COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND TO INTERACT WITH THE COMMUNITY.