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WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE CLIMATE RESILIENT AND SUSTAINABLE CITY COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER FOR OCTOBER 23RD, 2025.UH, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.
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COMMISSIONER BROWN PRESENT.UM, AND THEN FOR THE RECORD, UM, UH, VICE CHAIR GONZALEZ IS EXCUSED FROM THE MEETING.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? OKAY.
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SHOULD I READ THE NEXT ITEM? YEAH, YOU CAN READ IT IF YOU LIKE.UH, ITEM NUMBER ONE IS A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE CLIMATE RESILIENT AND SUSTAINABLE CITY COMMISSION MEETING OF THURSDAY, AUGUST 28TH, 2025.
CAN WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THIS ITEM? MM-HMM
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER KUNI HIRO, AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER GA.
[1. 25-56794 Recommendation to approve the minutes for the Climate Resilient and Sustainable City Commission meeting of Thursday, August 28, 2025. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
OKAY.COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, ABOUT OR CORRECTIONS TO THE, TO THE MINUTES? NO.
UM, SO WE'LL NOW TAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE MINUTES CAN DO SO NOW? SEEING NONE.
SEEING NONE, WE CAN, UM, CAN MOVE ON.
UM, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL FOR THE VOTE.
UM, COULD YOU PLEASE READ THE NEXT ITEM? ITEM NUMBER TWO IS RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A PRESENTATION FROM CITY STAFF ON BUILDING AND ENERGY WASTE AND THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.
[2. 25-56795 Recommendation to receive and file a presentation from City staff on Building & Energy, Waste, and the Climate Action Plan. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
GET A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THIS ITEM? OKAY, THANK YOU.MOVED BY COMMISSIONER COHERO AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BROWN.
UM, NOW WE'LL NOW TURN THINGS OVER TO THE STAFF FOR THE PRESENTATION.
WE HAVE, UH, ANDRE FROM THE OFFICE OF CLIMATE ACTION AND SUSTAINABILITY.
WE'LL START THE PRESENTATION AND THEN WE HAVE GUESTS.
WE HAVE JANE HERMON AND AARON ROWLAND
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FROM THE ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENT DEPARTMENT, ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT.UM, SO WHAT WE USUALLY DO, I KNOW WE HAVE NEW YORK COMMISSIONERS, SO WE USUALLY LIKE TO GIVE JUST A QUICK, UH, RECAP OF THE LB CAP.
UM, JUST THESE LIKE BUILDING ENERGY AND WASTE.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR ACTION ITEMS, UH, WHERE WE'RE HEADED, AND ANY ACCOMPLISHMENTS OUR CITY HAS COMPLETED IN 24.
UM, SO HERE AND THEN WE TALK ABOUT ANY, EM EMERGING ISSUES.
SO WE HAVE OUR TEAM HERE THAT'LL BE SPEAKING ABOUT THAT.
ALRIGHT, SO FOR, UH, BUILDING AND ENERGY, UM, OUR MAIN GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ENERGY EFFICIENT AND OUR COMMUNITIES ARE AFFORDABLE AND RUN ON RENEWABLE ELECTRICITY.
AND FOR THAT, OUR OBJECTIVES ARE TO BE MORE CARBON FREE, TO BE MORE RESILIENT, UH, AS FAR AS ELECTRICITY, TO HAVE MORE, UH, EFFICIENCY IN OUR BUILDINGS TO ENSURE WE'RE, UM, LOW CARBON NET NEUTRAL AND TO REDUCE EMISSIONS FROM OUR LOCAL AND GAS EXTRACTIONS.
UM, SO HERE ARE THE OVERARCHING ACTION ITEMS. UM, UNDERNEATH EACH OF THESE, THERE'S MULTIPLE SUB ACTION ITEMS, WHICH ARE, UH, GIVEN TO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
UM, AND THEN WE WORK TOGETHER WITH INTERNALLY AND EXTERNAL PARTNERS TO ENSURE THAT THESE ARE COMPLETED.
SO SOME OF THAT INCLUDES, UH, SOLAR AND MICRO GRIDS.
UM, SOLAR POWER INCREASE THE USE OF THAT.
UH, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ENERGY AND WATER AUDITS TO SEE WHERE WE CAN BE MORE EFFICIENT AND SAVE MONEY FOR OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
UH, WE WANNA UPDATE OUR BUILDING CODES, UH, TO BE INCENTIVIZING NEW ELECTRICAL AND, UH, LOW CARBON USAGE APPLIANCES AND TO REDUCE OUR OIL EMISSION, UH, AND GAS EXTRACTION EMISSIONS.
UM, AND WITH ALL ACTION ITEMS, WE HAVE SOME CO UH, ACTION ITEMS, UH, CO-BENEFITS OF EACH ACTION ITEM.
UH, SO WITH THIS, WE WANNA, WE'RE GONNA BE USING LESS ELECTRICITY, MORE GRID RESILIENCY.
SO DURING EXTREME HEAT EVENTS, UM, OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, UH, POWER OUTAGES AS MUCH.
UM, AND THEN WE WILL BE BETTER WITH OUR, UH, WATER CONSUMPTION AND THERE WILL BE NEW CREATION OF JOBS, UH, FROM THE GREEN, UM, GREEN SECTORS.
UM, SO, AND EVERYTHING WE DO, WE DO IT EVERYTHING WITH AN EQUITABLE LENS.
SO THIS WAY THE EQUITABLE LENS FOR BUILDING AN ENERGY IS WE WANNA ENSURE ANYTHING THAT'S FUNDED IS, UM, OUR LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THESE PROGRAMS. WE WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S, UH, MORE REDUCED AND FREE COST SOLAR 'CAUSE WE KNOW HOW EXPENSIVE SOLAR CAN BE, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT MUNICIPAL ENERGY WATERS, UH, WATER AUDITS ARE COMPLETED.
SO THEY'RE MORE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES.
UM, AND SO FOR, UH, THE NEXT, UH, MITIGATION, UH, SECTION, WE HAVE WASTE AND WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT LONG BEACH IS A ZERO WASTE CITY.
SO WHAT CAN BE RECYCLED IS RECYCLED AND WE WANT TO COLLECT OUR ORGANIC WASTE, UH, AND MAKE THAT, UH, FOR CLEAN GENERATION.
UM, SO THERE IS, UH, FOUR, UH, MAIN ACTION ITEMS. UH, SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE, UM, COMPLIANT WITH STATE LAW.
UH, WE WANT TO PARTNER WITH OUR PRIVATE WASTE HAULERS, OUR ORGANIC WASTE COLLECTION, WHICH OUR TEAM WILL SPEAK ABOUT THAT, UH, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD ON AND ANY OTHER ORGANIC WASTE MANAGEMENT OPTIONS.
AND SO SOME CO-BENEFITS OF THIS, UH, MITIGATION SECTOR IS MORE RECYCLED PRODUCTS, MORE, UH, LOCAL, UH, RENEWABLE ENERGY AND COMPLIANCE WITH OUR STATE LAWS.
AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE EQUITABLY THAT, UM, EVERYONE HAS ACCESS TO OUR RECYCLING ORGANIC WASTE SERVICES.
AND, UH, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S OUTREACH MATERIAL AND MULTIPLE MULTILINGUAL, UH, OUTREACH SO THAT OUR RESIDENTS AND TENANTS ALL KNOW WHAT KIND OF, UM, ACCESS THEY HAVE.
AND, UM, SOME UPDATES FROM OUR 2024, UH, ANNUAL REPORT IS.
SO, UM, OUR, UH, TEAM WORKS, UM, WITH UTILITIES AND OUR TREASURY, TREASURY DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL ELIGIBLE MUNICIPAL ACCOUNTS ARE SIGNED UP FOR A, OUR COMMUNITY RENEWABLES PROGRAM, WHICH IS A COMMUNITY SOLAR PROGRAM, UM, WHERE THERE'S A SOLAR FARM IN ARBY, IN AN IN KERN.
UM, SO THAT SAVES US 350 METRIC TONS.
AND THEN OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM HAS WORKED, UH, HARD TO ADD SOME SOLAR PROJECTS IN, UH, SOME OF OUR CITYWIDE, UH, PLACES SUCH AS THE MAIN HEALTH BUILDING AIRPORT LAWS AND THE AQUARIUM PARKING STRUCTURE.
AND, UM, ALSO WITH OUR COMMUNITY SOLAR.
UM, WE ARE PROMOTING IT TO THE CITIES FOR RESIDENTS,
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UH, TO BE ABLE TO USE IT.UM, AND WE HAVE ENROLLED, UH, 409 LONG BEACH RESIDENTS THAT REPRESENTS 2 MILLION KILOWATT PER YEAR, KILOWATT HOUR PER YEAR.
UM, AND ALSO OUR HARBOR DEPARTMENT CONTINUES TO FUND A SOLAR PROJECTS AND, UM, THEY WILL BE SUNSETTING THAT IN THE NEXT FIVE TO EIGHT YEARS.
UM, OUR, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, UH, PLANNING BUREAU, UH, WORKED WITH SOME EXTERNAL PARTNERS TO, UM, UH, GET INTERNSHIPS FOR STUDENTS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN URBAN PLANNING AND DESIGN INTERNSHIP.
AND THEY'LL BE PLACED IN, UH, THESE EXTERNAL, UH, COMPANIES, UM, OVER THE NEXT, STARTING THIS MONTH.
AND OUR UTILITIES DEPARTMENT, UM, IS WORKING, UH, TO, UM, INITIATE NEW DIRECT INSTALL APPLIANCE PROGRAMS FOR HIGH EFFICIENCY, UM, APPLIANCES, UH, FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY CUSTOMERS.
AND THIS WILL HELP US REDUCE, UH, MONTHLY UTILITY COSTS AND CONSERVE GAS AND REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.
AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH THUNDER, UM, FOR THE WASTE TEAM.
UM, THEY'LL BE TALKING TRASH SOON.
UM, SO WE WANNA, UH, I'LL LEAVE THIS ONE TO THEM, BUT, UM, THEY ARE, UH, WORKING REALLY HARD TO GET OUR RESIDENTIAL ORGANICS COLLECTION PROGRAM AND I LIVE IN LONG BEACH AND I GOT MY GREEN BIN.
AND NOW I'LL PASS IT OVER TO ERIN.
UM, AND GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS ERIN ROLAND AND I AM PART OF OUR NEW ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT.
UM, THIS DEPARTMENT WAS FORMED, UM, OCTOBER 1ST, WHICH ALIGNS WITH OUR NEW BUDGET CYCLE IN PAST YEARS WHEN I'VE DONE THIS PRESENTATIONS, I WAS HERE IN MY PUBLIC WORKS HAT AND JANE, WHO WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH HERE, UM, IN ENERGY RESOURCES.
AND AS PART OF THE OCTOBER BUDGET, UM, TWO OF THE MAIN TEAMS IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES BUREAU HAVE INTEGRATED INTO, UH, THE REMAINING TEAMS OF ENERGY RESOURCES.
UM, THIS DECISION WAS REALLY MADE TO INCREASE CAPACITY AND HIGHLIGHT THE PRIORITIES OF SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT HERE IN THE CITY.
SO IT'S BEEN A REALLY BIG WIN AND WILL BE A VERY BIG WIN FOR THE TEAMS AS WE LOOK WORK TOGETHER, INTEGRATE, AND THERE'S A LOT OF SIMILARITIES AND STRENGTH THAT WE'LL BE WORKING TOWARDS AND BUILDING OVER NOW AND INTO THE FUTURE, BASICALLY.
UM, SO WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THAT TODAY IN OUR PRESENTATION AND GIVE SOME UPDATES ON THE ORGANICS PROGRAM.
SO AS ALLUDED TO, THIS WAS REALLY A DECISION THAT WAS A FEW YEARS IN THE MAKING TO MY UNDERSTANDING.
UM, ONE OF THE KEY, UH, UNIQUE SITUATIONS IS THAT OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT HAD BECOME ONE OF THE LARGEST DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY AND, UM, HAD A LOT OF COMPETING PRIORITIES.
AND SO, UH, THIS MERGER REALLY HELPS TO PROVIDE SOME SHIFT IN THOSE PRIORITIES.
IT ALLOWS US TO HAVE A NEW DIRECTOR WHO, UM, CAN REALLY MANAGE AT A, AT A QUICKER PACE THAN WHAT WAS ABLE TO HAPPEN PREVIOUSLY.
AND IT ALLOWS FOR INCREASED, UH, GROWTH AND OPPORTUNITY AND EXPERTISE FROM THE DEPARTMENT HAD HAVING A STRONG BACKGROUND IN OPERATIONS, FIELD WORK SAFETY THAT ALL OF OUR TEAMS CAN REALLY BENEFIT FROM.
SO, JANE, JUST A QUICK, OH, YOU'RE GONNA, UM, JUST HERE TO GIVE A QUICK UPDATE, UM, ON THE PROGRESS BEING MADE TO THE REPLACE THE SURF OPERATION THAT PREVIOUSLY MANAGED THE CITY'S MUNICIPAL SOLID WASTE FOR OVER 35 YEARS.
SO SURFACE DECOMMISSIONED LATE LAST YEAR AND IS CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF SOLICITING BIDS FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THE FACILITY IN 2026, EARLY 26.
UH, THE CURRENT PLAN FOR THE SURF SITE INCLUDES DEVELOPMENT OF A FUTURE REGIONAL ORGANICS RECEIVING AND PROCESSING FACILITY, INCORPORATING HIGH SOLIDS ANAEROBIC DIGESTION TECHNOLOGY AS NOTED IN THE JUNE 11TH TFF, THE REVISED RFP IS ON TRACK AND WAS RELEASED OCTOBER 15TH, JUST LAST WEEK OR THIS WEEK WITH THE INCLUDED GOALS TO BENEFIT THE CITY'S RESIDENTS HELP MEET SUSTAINABILITY GOALS WHILE OFFERING A POTENTIAL SOURCE OF REVENUE AND COST SAVINGS FOR THE CITY.
ALL RIGHT, SO I'LL JUST GIVE SOME ADDITIONAL UPDATES RELATED TO SB 1383 AND OUR RESIDENTIAL ORGANICS ROLLOUT, WHICH IS A REALLY KEY COMPONENT OF THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.
SO I'M EXCITED TO SHARE AT THE MEETING TODAY THAT, UM, WE OFFICIALLY HAVE ROLLED OUT THE RESIDENTIAL OR ORGANICS PROGRAM CITYWIDE.
IN THE LAST YEAR, WE'VE DELIVERED OVER 80,000 CARTS TO CUSTOMERS.
AND I JUST WANNA KIND OF PAUSE TO SAY THAT THAT DELIVERY HAPPENED IN PHASE PHASES AND EACH OF THE PHASES
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HAD SOME UNIQUE HICCUPS AND EXPERIENCES.UM, BUT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, THE, IT'S BEEN ROLLED OUT.
YOU SHOULD HAVE THE, BEEN AT YOUR HOUSE AND SERVICE HAS STARTED.
UM, WE MADE ADAPTIONS THROUGHOUT THE ROLLOUT PROCESS TO ADAPT TO CHANGES AND, UH, IMPROVE PROCESSES, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAD TO GET A LOT OF CARTS IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE EASIEST WAY TO EXPLAIN IT.
AND WE HAD REALLY EAGER CUSTOMERS WHO OFTEN WANTED TO START USING THEIR CUSTOMERS BEFORE SERVICE STARTED.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE COULDN'T REALLY AVOID THAT WITH JUST THE CAPACITY OF WHAT WE HAD TO ROLL OUT.
UM, THROUGH THIS TIME WE'VE ALSO DONE, YOU KNOW, VERY EXTENSIVE OUTREACH FOR THIS PROGRAM.
WE'VE DONE DIRECT MAILERS TO ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS THAT WERE, UH, PROVIDED IN BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH WITH HAVING THE ADDITIONAL CITY LANGUAGES AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE OR FOR DIRECT MAIL AS REQUESTED.
WE HAVE BEGUN OUR DOOR TO DOOR OUTREACH FOR THIS PROGRAM, WHICH IS SUPPORTED THROUGH AN EPA FUNDED GRANT WHERE WE ARE WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH CONSERVATION CORPS TO GO THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND TALK TO PEOPLE.
WE'RE KNOCKING ON DOORS, WE'RE WALK KNOCKING ON MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTIES WE CAN ACCESS AND WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS AND WE'RE LEAVING TOOLS AND RESOURCES FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
UM, IN ADDITION, WE HAVE, UH, SPOKEN AT I THINK MORE PRESENTATIONS IN THE LAST THREE TO FOUR MONTHS THAN IN A FEW YEARS COMBINED.
SO OUR TEAM HAS REACHED OUT TO EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP IN THE CITY.
NOT ALL OF THEM RESPOND, BUT WE HAVE SENT AT LEAST ONE, IF NOT TWO MEALS, TWO EMAILS TO EVERY SINGLE GROUP.
UM, WE'VE PRESENTED AND OR TABLED AT OVER 70 EVENTS IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS ALONE TALKING ABOUT THE PROGRAM OFFERING RESOURCES AND JUST TRYING TO BE AS RESPONSIVE AS WE CAN WITH THE TEAMS THAT WE HAVE.
UM, WE'VE HAD HUGE, UM, INCREASES OF FOLKS COMING TO OUR WEBSITE PAGES FOLLOWING US ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
UM, WE KNOW THAT EDUCATION AND OUTREACHES FOREVER, AND SO WE'RE REALLY COMMITTED TO FIGURING OUT STRATEGIES TO PROVIDE THAT, UM, CITYWIDE FOREVER.
UM, HERE IS SOME REALLY RECENT ACCOMPLISHMENTS THROUGH OUR EPA GRANT, WE HAVE UTILIZED SOME OF THAT FUNDING TO DIRECTLY FUND LOCAL NONPROFITS HERE IN LONG BEACH WHO, UM, MAYBE ARE KEY COMMUNITY PLAYERS AND ASSETS.
AND SO WE RECENTLY WENT AND SUPPORTED OUR FIRST WORKSHOP EVER IN KAMAI.
UM, WE HAD FOLKS, UM, FROM THE ORGANIZATION SPEAKING AND, AND DOING THAT COMMUNICATION TO THEIR ATTENDEES.
AND THEN WE HAD STAFF, A STAFF MEMBER ON SITE JUST TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
UM, SO THAT WAS A REALLY GREAT, UM, I THINK WIN FOR US AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE OUTREACH THAT THE EPA GRANT IS NOT ALLOWING US TO DO, BUT IS, IS REALLY KIND OF SUPPORTING THESE NEW INITIATIVES AS WE HAVE THESE PROGRAMS THAT IMPACT ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS AND RESIDENTS AND MULTILINGUAL NEEDS TO JUST GET OUT THERE MORE.
WE KNOW THAT WE'VE ALSO HAD, UM, A LOT OF REQUESTS COMING INTO OUR WEBSITE, UM, AND TO OUR CALL CENTER.
I'M GONNA JUST, UM, SO ONE OF THE BIG CHANGES THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED VERY SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE LAST MONTH IS AN INCREASE IN CALLS, UH, MORE CALLS THAN WE HAD STAFF CAPACITY TO ANSWER.
AND, UH, RAN INTO SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES WHERE FOLKS WERE CALLING AND THEY COULDN'T GET THROUGH.
UM, AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TRYING TO DO OUR BEST TO PIVOT IN REAL TIME TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.
UM, ON TUESDAY WE GAVE A SOMEWHAT SIMILAR PRESENTATION TO THIS, TO CITY COUNCIL.
IT WAS MUCH MORE DETAILED ON ALL OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED OVER THIS LAST MONTH TO REALLY ADDRESS THOSE CUSTOMER SERVICE CHALLENGES AND TO SPEAK TO THE HIGH VOLUMES AND HIGH REQUESTS THAT WE'VE HAD, UM, HAVE HAD.
UM, OVERALL WE'VE SEEN A DECREASE IN SOME OF THOSE CALLS AND REQUESTS PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS AND WE DO EXPECT THOSE TRENDS TO CONTINUE TO GO DOWN.
AND WE'RE ALSO DOING A LOT MORE TO, TO REDIRECT FOLKS ONLINE SO THOSE WHO CAN UTILIZE ONLINE FORMS CAN REALLY FOCUS ON THOSE, THOSE WHO CANNOT AND STILL NEED TO CALL, HOPEFULLY WILL HAVE AN EASIER TIME GETTING THROUGH ON THE PHONE LINES AND, UH, THAT, THAT'S THE UPDATES.
I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE MAYBE THOUGHT ABOUT ENDING WITH A POSITIVE NOTE.
UH, JUST NOT THE CHALLENGES, BUT, UM, I'LL JUST HIGHLIGHT THAT THE LAST YEAR FOR THE SOLID WASTE GROUP HAS BEEN TREMENDOUS GROWTH AND TREMENDOUS OUTREACH TO GET THIS PROGRAM STARTED.
UM, WE'VE HAD TO PURCHASE ADDITIONAL TRUCKS, WE'VE HAD TO, UH, TRAIN STAFF, WE'VE HAD TO INTEGRATE TECHNOLOGY, UM, AND, UH, WE'VE BEEN DOING, YOU KNOW, REALLY THE BEST WE CAN WITH THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO US TO GET THIS PROGRAM OUT TO OUR COMMUNITY.
AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED NOW THAT EVERYONE HAS THIS SERVICE AND WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO OUR ONGOING EFFORTS FOR ENGAGEMENT,
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OUTREACH AND INCREASING PARTICIPATION.AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? YES, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
NOW A QUESTION I JUST WANNA SAY CONGRATULATIONS, UM, TO OPERA, OPERATIONALIZE ANYTHING I'M LEARNING IN MY OWN COMPANY IS THE HARDEST THING TO DO.
SO WHEN YOU WERE LISTENING TO THINGS I'M LIKE, GO, GO, GO.
SO I WANTED TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS, UH, IS GREAT TO HAVE THE PROGRAM UP AND OUT AND THAT LIKE, I JUST KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO ACTUALLY DO IT.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, IDEALLY PEOPLE THINK IT'S EASY AND I CAN IMAGINE THE PAIN
SO CONGRATULATIONS AND KUDOS TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM.
YOU DID MENTION THAT THERE WAS AN EPA GRANT WHERE YOU FOCUSED WITH A LOT OF OUTREACH BEFORE YOU PRESENTED THE CARTS.
AND ONE OF THOSE THAT DID CALL I THINK A COUPLE TIMES 'CAUSE I NEED A SMALLER CART, THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE A BACKYARD.
AND THEN YOU ALSO DID MENTION THAT YOU DID HAVE A LOT OF OUTREACH ON THE PHONE LINES, WHICH STAFF IS, YOU KNOW, NOT CAPABLE OF DOING.
WHAT WAS THAT DIFFERENCE FOR THE DELTA? WHAT WERE PEOPLE CALLING ABOUT? SO, UM, FOLKS CALL OUR A HOTLINE FOR A VARIETY OF SERVICES RELATED TO SOLID WASTE COLLECTION.
THEY CALL IN FOR, UM, A SPECIAL ITEMS COLLECTION.
SO YOU MIGHT HAVE A SPECIAL ITEM YOU NEED COLLECTED, THEY CALL IN FOR MISSED PICKUPS, THEY CALL IN FOR CART EXCHANGES.
AND I'M SORRY, I'M BLANKING ON THE FOURTH KIND OF MOST COMMON TREND, BUT ACTUALLY THE MOST COMMON REASON FOLKS ARE CALLING IN IS FOR SPECIAL COLLECTIONS.
UM, AND SO THAT NUMBER I THINK KIND OF STAYED SOMEWHAT CONSISTENT, BUT THEN THIS INCREASE OF FOLKS CALLING FOR, UM, CHANGING OF THE CART SIZE OR A MISSED PICKUP WAS KIND OF THE MORE, UH, I THINK, UH, NOT UNIQUE, BUT JUST REPRESENTATIVE OF THE TIME OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH THE NEW SERVICE BEING ROLLED OUT.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE COULD DO IN OUR COMMISSION IN OUR DISTRICTS TO SUPPORT MAYBE A REDUCTION OF THAT IN TERMS OF EDUCATION OR PRESENTATION? WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THE TEAM? YEAH, THE BEST IS TO REDIRECT FOLKS TO THE ONLINE FORM SO THEY CAN GO TO OUR WEBSITE.
UM, MANY OF OUR WEBSITE PAGES ARE KIND OF HIGHLIGHTING GO HERE TO FIND THESE ONLINE FORMS. UM, THE OTHER THING IS THAT WE'VE LEARNED FOLKS, UM, OFTEN CALL IN IF THEIR CONTAINERS, THEIR TRASH ARE NOT PICKED UP AT THE SAME TIME EVERY WEEK.
SO SAY FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS OF YOUR LIFE, YOUR CART WAS PICKED UP AT 10:00 AM IT'S 10 0 5, YOU'RE CALLING US
SO THAT'S KIND OF A BIG PART OF IT.
UM, WE ALSO ARE DOING A LOT TO, UM, COMMUNICATE, AT LEAST TO THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS DIRECTLY ON IF AN AREA WAS MISSED.
UM, THEY ARE PRIORITIZED THE NEXT MORNING, SO THE DIRECTION HAS ALSO BEEN LEAVE YOUR CART OUT ANOTHER DAY, THERE'S A REALLY GREAT CHANCE IT'S GONNA GET COLLECTED THE NEXT DAY.
SO YOU DON'T ACTUALLY NEED TO CALL OR FILL OUT THE ONLINE FORM, BUT YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DO WHAT THEY, WHAT FEELS RIGHT TO THEM.
I THINK, UH, JUST MAYBE REDIRECTING WITH THE COMMUNITY IN OUR DISTRICTS TO LET THEM KNOW THEY COULD GO IN THE ONLINE FORM.
HONESTLY, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT I'M ONE OF THE FEW PEOPLE THAT HAVE CALLED A MILLION TIMES IF IT'S 10 0 7.
SO, UM, I APPRECIATE THAT AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT DELTA IS.
SO I'M HOPING TO MAKE THAT IMPACT IN THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY DISTRICT THREE.
COMMISSIONER MARSH, I SAW YOUR HAND UP EARLIER.
DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR? YEAH, I DID.
UH, THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION AND ALL THE WORK.
UH, PLUS ONE FOR THE, UH, UH, KUDOS ON THE WORK, UH, ROLLOUT.
UM, GOING BACK TO THE, UH, SURF REPLACEMENT FACILITY, IF I MAY, UM, WE ENJOYED YOUR BRIEFING LAST WINTER THAT WE WERE GONNA GET AN ANAEROBIC DIGESTER FACILITY.
UM, I'D HEARD A FEW MONTHS AGO THAT, UH, CONTRACTS FELL THROUGH.
I THINK THE, THE TERM IN THE BRIEFING TODAY WAS THERE'S A NEW RFP.
UM, SO ARE WE STILL THINKING WE CAN GET AN A DIGESTER? HOW HAS THAT EVOLVED? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
AND UM, MY APOLOGIES, I I DIDN'T RECALL WHAT I HAD, UM, KIND OF PROVIDED AN UPDATE LAST YEAR, BUT, UH, THERE IS, I WOULD ENCOURAGE, UM, EVERYONE, ALL THE COMMISSIONERS TO READ THE JUNE 11TH TFF THAT WENT OUT TO THE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
AND THAT BASICALLY SUMMARIZES, UM, EVERY KIND OF THE PROGRESS UPDATE ON THAT.
AND YOU'RE CORRECT THAT BDC BIO ANDREW DCO WAS THE SELECTED PROPOSER PREVIOUSLY WHEN WE HAD GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
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A A NUMBER OF REASONS, THEY, UM, ENDED UP, UH, DROPPING OUT AND, UM, SHELVING THE PROJECT ON THEIR END.SO WE HAD TO KIND OF START FROM SQUARE ONE.
BUT, UM, WE DIDN'T JUST LIKE KIND OF SIT AROUND, WE, UH, WANTED TO TAKE SOME ACTION TO PERFORM SOME MARKET SOUNDING TO UNDERSTAND BETTER, LIKE WHAT TYPE OF WASTE, UM, THE CITY WAS.
'CAUSE WE WERE ROLLING OUT THE ORGANICS PROGRAM, WHAT TYPE OF WASTE WAS BEING COLLECTED.
AND THEN, UM, FOUND THAT THE HIGH, AND THAT'S THE DIFFERENTIATION, HIGH SOLIDS, ANAEROBIC DIGESTION TECHNOLOGY WAS MORE FITTING.
BIO NG DCO WAS PROPOSING MORE OF A LOW SOLIDS ANAEROBIC DIGESTION TECHNOLOGY.
AND, UM, REALLY THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS THAT LOW SOLIDS IS MORE LIKE GEARED TOWARDS, UM, FOOD AND LEFTOVER TYPE WASTE, WHICH, UM, CO CONSISTS OF LIKE A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE OVERALL WHAT'S COLLECTED IN THE GREEN BIN.
IT'S MAJORITY YARD DEBRIS AND GREEN WASTE TYPE, UM, LIKE TREE TRIMMINGS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND SO, UM, A HIGH SOLIDS IS MORE APPROPRIATE TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY TO, UH, THAT FIT THAT, UM, UH, PROCESSING THAT TYPE OF WASTE.
AND SO, UM, WE HAVE MADE, UM, CHANGES BASED ON A LOT OF THESE LESSONS LEARNED IN OUR MARKET SOUND AND RESEARCH THAT WAS PERFORMED.
UM, I WANNA SAY LIKE, UM, THE PAST FEW, UH, MONTHS, UM, FROM LIKE ABOUT MARCH TO SUMMERTIME AND CONCLUDED THAT WE WERE GONNA GO OUT WITH A NEW RFP KIND OF A LITTLE BIT HONED IN ON THAT TECHNOLOGY.
SO, UM, WE DID RELEASE IT JUST LAST WEEK.
AND UM, YEAH, WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THIS TIME AROUND THINGS WILL LOOK A LOT, UM, MORE, UM, WHAT'S THE WORD? A LOT BETTER.
UM, AND YOU MENTIONED A DATE OF A MEMO.
WAS IT JUNE 11TH OR SEVENTH 11TH, AN EMAIL? THAT'S CORRECT.
OH, CAN I EMAIL IT TO YOU? YEAH.
BUT, AND YOU, YOU SAID A TFF, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE TWO FROM FOUR, UH, FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND I KNOW WHERE TO FIND THOSE, SO.
UM, I ALSO WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, THE EXCITING MILESTONE OF ROLLING OUT THE PROGRAM CITYWIDE, UM, AS A PARTICIPANT, LONG BEACH COMMUNITY COMPOST, WE, UH, GOT LOTS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROGRAM AND THE LEAD UP AND THERE WAS LIKE A LOT OF EXCITEMENT.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY COOL TO SEE IT FULLY, UM, ROLLED OUT.
I, I TEXTED THE, UH, THE GROUP, UM, THE WORKING GROUP FOR LONG BEACH COMMUNITY COMPOST.
'CAUSE I WAS CURIOUS IF, UM, IF WE WOULD NOTICE ANY, LIKE, REDUCTIONS IN DROP OFFS THERE.
UM, THEY SAID THAT THEY'VE NOTICED LIKE A LITTLE BIT, WHICH KIND OF WAS EXPECTED.
UM, BUT THAT'S GOOD 'CAUSE THAT MEANS PEOPLE ARE, YOU KNOW, USING THEIR, USING THEIR CARTS.
UM, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, THE CURRENT PROCESSING.
UM, I THINK, THINK TWO MEETINGS AGO, I, UH, ASKED, UM, THE CITY STAFF ABOUT THE, WHERE THE ORGANICS ARE BEING PROCESSED RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT'S GOING TO AMERICAN ORGANICS AND OUTSIDE OF VICTORVILLE.
UM, IS THAT THE PLAN, UH, UNTIL FOR THE ORGANICS, UNTIL, UH, THE, THE ANAEROBIC DIGESTION FACILITY OPENS? UM, OR IS THE CITY TRYING TO SWITCH FROM COMPOSTING TO, UH, ANAEROBIC DIGESTION BEFORE, UM, THE FACILITY OPENS? SO, UM, THE ORGANIC MATERIAL IS GOING TO POSSIBLY ONE OF THREE, OR THERE'S THREE FACILITIES THAT I CAN GO TO.
I'M ASKING JANE IF SHE CAN PULL IT UP ON OUR WEBSITE JUST SO I DON'T GET IT INCORRECT IN THIS MEETING.
UM, BUT IT, UH, THE WAY THE PROCESS WORKS RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE, A FEW YEARS AGO PUT OUT AN RFP RELATED TO JUST SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT.
AND SO BASED ON THE RESPONSE OF THAT AND THE AWARDS THAT OCCURRED, THE THREE, UH, VENDORS THAT GOT THAT THE FACILITIES THAT THE ORGANICS ARE GOING TO ARE DEPENDENT ON THE, THE FOLKS WHO HOLD THAT CONTRACT.
SO WE DON'T, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE IS A COMPOST FACILITY IN ADDITION TO AD AND I'M SORRY, I'M NOT SURE IF I HEARD YOUR QUESTION CORRECTLY.
IS IT GOING, UH, YEAH, IT, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT IT WAS ALL GOING TO COMPOST.
SO I WAS JUST KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT, UM, IF YOU COULD PROVIDE MORE CLARITY ON HOW THE ORGANICS ARE BEING PROCESSED.
YEAH, SO THE THREE FACILITIES ON OUR WEBSITE ARE THE UPPER COLLEGES, BLOSSOM VALLEY ORGANIC, SAGE RANCH COMPOST, AND AMERICAN ORGANICS COMPOSTING FACILITY.
UM, SO THOSE ARE THE THREE LOCATIONS.
AND UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY'RE GETTING MIXED WITH THE MATERIAL FROM THE TRANSFER STATIONS.
AND SO IT'S GETTING COMMINGLED WITH OTHER
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ORGANICS PROGRAMS SERVING THIS REGION.IT'S GETTING TRUCKED THERE AND THEN IT'S GETTING MANAGED AT THOSE FACILITIES.
THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
I TOO WANNA CONGRATULATE, I KNOW IT WAS A MONUMENTAL EFFORT TO GET ALL THAT ROLLED OUT.
I'M CURIOUS ABOUT, UM, WHAT THE CONVERSION OF THE SURF TO, UM, A DIGESTER LOOKS LIKE.
WILL, I KNOW A PROBLEM WITH THE SURF WAS ALWAYS KEEPING IT FULL AND THE ECONOMICS OF HOW REGIONAL THIS PLY HAD TO BE.
IS IT SIMILAR FOR THE DIGESTER? WILL IT BE MOSTLY LONG BEACH ORGANICS, OR WILL WE BE BECOMING A HUB FOR, UM, ORGANICS IN THE REGION? WHAT DO YOU EXPECT? I, UM, I BELIEVE THAT IT'S STILL VERY EARLY PRELIMINARY STAGES, UM, TO REALLY SAY.
BUT OUR HOPE IS THAT NOT ONLY WOULD IT, UM, HAVE ENOUGH STORAGE TO TAKE ALL OF LONG BEACH'S ORGANIC WASTE, BUT WE WOULD BE A REGIONAL SOLUTION.
UM, AS FAR AS LIKE THE OPERATIONS OF IT, OF SURF AND, UH, IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT, UM, FACILITY.
AND SO, UM, SURF WAS LIKE, UH, LIKE A MASS BURN FACILITY, RIGHT? SO IT'S KINDA LIKE A POWER PLANT.
THE FUEL WAS TRASH, UM, AND NEEDED LIKE A STEADY FLOW OF TRASH TOO IN ORDER TO KEEP THE BURNING PROCESS GOING.
WHEREAS WITH THE ANAEROBIC DIGESTION TECHNOLOGY, IT'S UM, LIKE A BIG TANK AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO LIKE, KEEP BEING FED.
'CAUSE ALL IT DOES IS IT JUST KIND OF SITS THERE AND GENERATES THE METHANE, THE METHANE FLOATS TO THE TOP AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT'S TAKEN OFF.
SO, UM, YEAH, IT, I IDEALLY, I THINK IT ACTUALLY WORKS MORE EFFECTIVELY WHEN IT'S NOT LIKE COMPLETELY FULL, UM, AND YOU HAVE THAT AIRSPACE ON TOP.
BUT YEAH, THAT I BELIEVE THAT, UM, OUR GOAL IS ULTIMATELY TO NOT JUST MANAGE, UM, LONG BEACH, BUT ALSO THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE, UM, OTHER WASTE IN THE REGION, ORGANIC WASTE.
AND THEN COMMISSIONER I SERVE YOU PLEASE.
SO I DON'T MEAN TO BE DEBBIE DOWNER,
SO, UH, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S GONNA BE TAKEN CARE OF.
AND ALSO I WANNA KNOW THAT, UM, LANDSCAPING COMPANIES AND TREE TRIMMING COMPANIES, ARE THEY ALSO, DO THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DROP OFF THEIR GREEN WASTE TO THIS, YOU KNOW, TO THE FACILITY OR WHEREVER, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE THEY ABLE TO GET, BECAUSE THEY'RE HUGE GENERATORS OF GREEN WASTE? I'LL TRY TO ANSWER YOUR SECOND QUESTION FIRST.
SO I WOULD ASSUME LANDSCAPERS ARE, IF THEY'RE NOT TAKING IT TO A HOME, THEY'RE GOING TO A TRANSFER STATION NOW.
SO I WOULD ASSUME THEY'RE GOING TO ONE OF THE LOCAL TRANSFER STATIONS.
AND FROM THERE THERE'S DIFFERENT RATES IF YOU DUMP AS YARD DEBRIS, UM, TRASH, ET CETERA.
I, I'M GUESSING THE YARD DEBRIS IS, IS COMPETITIVE IF NOT LESS.
I, I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT A LANDSCAPER.
UM, BUT THAT WOULD BE MANAGED AT THE TRANSFER STATION DIRECTLY.
UM, I'M NOT SURE IN OUR FUTURE WORLD IF, IF WE HAVE, IF AND WHEN WE HAVE AN AD FACILITY AT SURF, IF WE WOULD ALLOW, THIS IS CALLED SELF HALL.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE WOULD ALLOW FOLKS TO DO THAT.
IT'S WAY TOO EARLY TO EVEN TO EVEN KNOW IF THAT MAKES SENSE OR WHAT THAT POSITIVE OR NEGATIVES OF THAT MIGHT BE.
UM, WE ARE WORKING ON EDUCATION TO LANDSCAPERS.
UM, IT'S UH, KIND OF OUR NEXT LEVEL OF REALLY A KEY, UH, STAKEHOLDER IN THIS PROCESS.
SO WE ARE WORKING ON SOME OF THAT.
WE'VE GOTTEN SOME LISTS FROM OUR CITY BUSINESS, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TEAM TO GET THE BUSINESSES IN THE CITY WHO HAVE BUSINESS LICENSES SO WE CAN DO DIRECT MAILERS TO THEM.
SO, UM, THEY'RE A KEY STAKEHOLDER THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO START ENGAGEMENT WITH, UM, AFTER WE GET THROUGH SOME OF THESE FIRST, FIRST LEVELS OF ENGAGEMENT.
UM, AND THEN YOUR SECOND QUESTION RELATED TO THE TRUCKS, UM, WE DO HAVE SOMETIMES THE SAME TRUCKS COMING TO THE, UM, LEMME THINK ABOUT HOW TO EXPLAIN THIS.
UM, THE TRUCK MAY COME TO A HOME TO COLLECT TRASH, DO ITS ROUTE AND FINISH UP, AND THEN THAT SAME TRUCK MIGHT END UP COMING BACK TO THE HOUSE TO PICK UP THE ORGANICS.
THAT MIGHT NOT BE WHAT YOU DESCRIBED, YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN SOMEONE MAYBE DUMPING INCORRECTLY.
UM, WHEN WE GET THOSE NOTIFICATIONS, WE TAKE THEM VERY SERIOUSLY, UM, AND WE DO
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INVESTIGATIONS ON THE BACKEND.AND IF WE'RE SEEING THAT THAT'S HAPPENING, WE PROVIDE APPROPRIATE FEEDBACK AND, UM, DOCUMENTATION TO THE EMPLOYEES.
UM, HI, UM, ONE OF MY CONGRATULATIONS, HONESTLY IS, IS A LOT OF WORK AND YOU HAVE DONE REALLY GOOD WORK.
NOW, UM, ONE OF THE ORGANIZATION WHO WAS GRANTED, UH, TO WORK WITH YOU IS
AND SOMETHING THAT I NEED TO LET YOU KNOW IS WE WORKING MORE INTO THE, THE AREAS NORTH LONG BEACH, UM, CENTRAL, AND IT'S A LOT OF APARTMENTS AND THEY, I'VE BEEN PASSING A LOT, MAYBE IT'S MY FAULT WE BE PASSING A LOT OF, UH, CARD FOR YOU BECAUSE THE APARTMENT PEOPLE THAT LIVES IN THE APARTMENT, THEY DON'T KNOW WHEN, WHEN THE PICKUP FOR THESE GREEN, UM, BIN ARE.
SO I'VE BEEN TELLING THEM TO CALL YOU OR TO GO TO THE WEBSITE, BUT WHEN I WENT TO THE WEBSITE, YOU DON'T HAVE STAR, UM, NOTHING THERE THAT IT CAN SAY.
WHAT IS THE SCHEDULE FOR CERTAIN AREAS FOR THE PICKUP DAY? I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE SAME DAY THAT THAN OTHER YEAH, BUT THIS IS APARTMENTS, THESE ARE NOT HOUSES, IT'S ARE APARTMENTS.
AND THIS IS MAYBE DIFFERENT BECAUSE THE, THE GREEN BEAN IS GONNA BE FROM THE CITY, NOT FROM THE PRIVATE, UM, PEOPLE WHO'S PICKING UP.
AND ANOTHER THING IS I'VE BEEN HAVING A LOT OF, IT'S, IT IS FUN TO BE OUT THERE BECAUSE ONE PERSON CAME AND SAY IF THEY CAN PUT THEIR CAT BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO BECOME
SO THEY SAY, CAN I PUT MY CAT THERE? AND HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY.
UM, UH, CITY SERVICE ACCOUNTS HAVE TRASH RECYCLING INORGANICS ALL COLLECTED ON THE SAME DAY.
SO IF THEY ARE CITY SERVICED, THEY'RE ALL ON THE SAME DAY.
UM, THERE IS A MAP IT FUNCTION ON OUR WEBSITE PAGES, SO I CAN ALSO GET THIS TO THE TEAM, GIVE YOU GUYS THAT DIRECT LINK.
YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO TYPE IN YOUR ADDRESS AND IF YOU'RE CITY SERVICED, IT WILL GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION.
IF YOU DO HAVE A PRIVATE HAULER, I'M NOT SURE THAT IT PROVIDES THAT INFORMATION OR IF IT'S ACCURATE.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE PERSON WOULD NEED TO CONTACT THEIR, THEIR HAULER.
HOPEFULLY THERE'S A PHONE NUMBER ON THEIR BINS.
IF THERE'S NOT, YOU CAN ALWAYS REACH OUT TO US AND WE CAN CALL AND FIND THAT CONNECTION PIECE IF THAT'S MISSING.
UM, AND THEN I THINK THOSE WERE THE TWO.
WERE THOSE THE QUESTIONS? OKAY, GREAT.
I THINK THAT CONCLUDES ALL THE QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS.
SO WE'RE NOT READY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN PERSON THAT WOULD LIKE TO SIGN UP OR EXCUSE ME, SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM.
SEEING NONE, THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
FOR THIS ITEM, PLEASE CALL FOR A VOTE.
COMMISSIONER BENNETT, IF YOU'D LIKE TO PROVIDE A VOICE VOTE, I CAN TAKE THAT IN THAT CASE.
UH, COMMISSIONER ELLIS APPROVE.
AND COMMISSIONER HANKS? UH, YES, THANK YOU.
CAN YOU PLEASE READ THE NEXT ITEM? ITEM NUMBER THREE IS RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A PRESENTATION FROM CITY STAFF ON THE PIER WIND PROJECT.
WE HAVE A MOTION, UM, AND A SECOND.
MOVED BY COMMISSIONER, UH, COHERO AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
[3. 25-56796 Recommendation to receive and file a presentation from City staff on the Pier Wind project. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
GAETAN.UM, OKAY, WE'RE READY FOR THE PRESENTATION.
WE HAVE JAMES VERNON, THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING WITH THE HARBOR DEPARTMENT HERE TO PROVIDE A PRESENTATION ON PURE WIND.
THIS WAS A PRESENTATION THAT WAS REQUESTED BY COMMISSION, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, AND WE WERE ABLE TO SCHEDULE IT FOR TODAY'S MEETING.
I'M THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF ENVIRONMENTAL
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PLANNING AT THE PORT OF LONG BEACH.AND I'M HERE TODAY TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF OUR PURE WIND PROJECT.
SO WE'RE MORE THAN ONE OF JUST THE BUSIEST PORTS IN THE NATION.
UH, WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF AMBITIOUS ENVIRONMENTAL POLICIES AND TO REDUCE THE IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT AND COMMUNITY.
FROM OUR, FROM OUR PORT OPERATIONS, WE ADOPTED THE LANDMARK GREENPORT POLICY IN 2005, AND THIS YEAR IS THE 20TH ANNIVERSARY OF, UH, THE ADOPTION OF THE GREENPORT POLICY.
NOW OUR LAST, UH, OUR LATEST CLEAN AIR ACTION PLAN ESTABLISHED AMBITIOUS ZERO EMISSION GOALS.
UH, THE PRIMARY STRATEGY TO ACHIEVE ZERO EMISSIONS WILL BE THROUGH ELECTRIFICATION.
SO WE'RE FORECASTING A SIXFOLD INCREASE IN ANNUAL POWER CONSUMPTION AS A RESULT, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE SUPPORTING CALIFORNIA'S DEVELOPMENT OF OFFSHORE WIND.
SO THERE'LL BE SUFFICIENT, RELIABLE, RESILIENT RENEWABLE ENERGY POWERING OUR GRID AS WE PLUG MORE OF OUR OPERATIONS INTO THAT GRID.
NOW, OFFSHORE WIND'S GONNA PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN CALIFORNIA'S FUTURE ENERGY PORTFOLIO BECAUSE OFFSHORE WIND IS AN ABUNDANT SOURCE OF DOMESTIC RENEWABLE ENERGY RIGHT HERE OFF OF OUR COAST.
AND CALIFORNIA HAS SOME OF THE HIGHEST WIND ENERGY IN THE NATION.
OFFSHORE WIND BALANCES OUT SOLAR VERY WELL BECAUSE IT PRODUCES MORE ENERGY IN THE EVENING, UH, THAT WHEN THE SUN GOES DOWN, AS WELL AS DURING CLOUDY WINTER MONTHS WHEN SOLAR GENERATION FALLS OFF.
FOR ALL THESE REASONS, CALIFORNIA HAS A TARGET OF DEVELOPING 25 GIGAWATTS OF OFFSHORE WIND BY 2045.
NO, 25 GIGAWATTS IS A LOT OF POWER.
SO JUST TO PUT THAT INTO CONTEXT, UH, 25 GIGAWATTS IS THE EQUIVALENT OF 12, UH, DIABLO CANYON NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS.
SO NOW THE MAJORITY OF OFFSHORE WIND INSTALLED AROUND THE WORLD TO DATE IS FIXED BOTTOM.
THAT'S WHERE THE FOUNDATION IS EMBEDDED DIRECTLY INTO THE SEABED AND ASSEMBLED IN PLACE OUT AT THE WIND FARM.
AND THIS CAN BE DONE FOR WATERS UP TO ABOUT 200 FEET DEEP.
BUT IN CALIFORNIA, UH, WATERS ARE ABOUT 3000 FEET DEEP OUT IN THE WIND FARM.
SO WE NEED TO USE FLOATING FOUNDATIONS AND TO ASSEMBLE THESE TURBINES AT A PORT BEFORE TOWING THEM OUT TO THE WIND FARM, WHERE THEN THEY'RE ANCHORED AND MOORED TO THE SEABED.
NOW, SCALE IS AN IMPORTANT THING TO KEEP IN MIND WHEN THINKING ABOUT FLOATING OFFSHORE WIND TURBINES.
EACH OF THESE COMPONENTS ARE MASSIVE AND HEAVY.
THEY'RE TOO BIG TO TRANSPORT OVER ROAD OR RAIL, SO THEY NEED TO BE MANUFACTURED AT PORTS AND DELIVERED BY WATER.
NOW, A SINGLE BLADE COULD BE ONE AND A HALF TIMES THE LENGTH OF A FOOTBALL FIELD, AND EACH FLOATING FOUNDATION WILL BE ABOUT THE SIZE OF A BASEBALL FIELD.
NOW I'LL TAKE A MULTI-PORT STRATEGY TO DEVELOP FLOATING OFFSHORE WIND WITH MANUFACTURING AND FABRICATION FACILITIES FOR LARGE COMPONENTS AND SUB ASSEMBLIES THAT ARE THEN DELIVERED TO STAGING AND ASSEMBLY SITES TO ASSEMBLE THE FOUNDATIONS AND TURBINES BEFORE BEING TOWED OUT TO THE WIND FARM, WHICH WILL BE SUPPORTED BY OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE FACILITIES.
NOW I'M GONNA FOCUS IN NEXT ON PORT FACILITIES FOR STAGING AND ASSEMBLY OPERATIONS, UH, WHICH ARE CRITICAL TO ENABLING THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR FLOATING OFFSHORE WIND.
SO WITHOUT THE STAGING AND ASSEMBLY PORTS, WE CANNOT DEVELOP OFFSHORE WIND.
SO NOW, STARTING WITH FOUNDATION ASSEMBLY REQUIRES A HEAVY LIFT WHARF TO RECEIVE ALL THE SUB ASSEMBLIES AND A LARGE AREA WHERE MULTIPLE FLOATING FOUNDATIONS CAN BE ASSEMBLED AT THE SAME TIME.
SO THAT ONE FOUNDATION IS COMPLETE ABOUT EVERY ONE TO TWO WEEKS.
NOW, THIS, UH, IS REQUIRED TO MEET THE PRODUCTION RATES FOR LARGE SCALE COMMERCIAL WIND FARMS. NOW, ONCE FULLY ASSEMBLED, THE FOUNDATION WILL BE TRANSFERRED FROM LAND ONTO WATER, AND THIS REQUIRES A HEAVY LIFT WHARF AND DEEP CALM WATER.
SO THE PHOTOS SHOWING A, UH, A FLOATING BASE BEING TRANSFERRED ONTO A SEMI-SUBMERSIBLE BARGE.
NOW THE BARGE WOULD THEN GO OUT TO A SINKING BASIN AND WOULD SINK DOWN AND THE FOUNDATION WOULD THEN FLOAT OFF.
A SINKING BASIN IS A VERY DEEP PART OF THE HARBOR, ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET DEEP.
NOW, THE FOUNDATION WOULD THEN BE PULLED OVER TO THE KEY WHERE LARGE CRANES WOULD INTEGRATE THE COMPONENTS INTO, ONTO THE FOUNDATION.
AND THIS REQUIRES A HEAVY LIFT WHARF TO SUPPORT THE CRANE, A LARGE AREA TO STAGE THE COMPONENTS AND SUFFICIENT KEY LENGTH TO SUPPORT COMPONENT DELIVERY ALONG WITH DEEP CALM WATER WITH NO WAVE ACTION.
NOW, THE STAGING AND ASSEMBLY SITE ALSO NEEDS A SUBSTANTIAL AREA FOR WET STORAGE OF FLOATING FOUNDATIONS THAT ARE WAITING TO BE INTEGRATED AND ASSEMBLED, AND ALSO FOR FULLY ASSEMBLED TURBINES
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WAITING TO BE TOWED OUT TO THE WIND FARMS. NOW ONCE WEATHER CONDITIONS ARE RIGHT, THE TURBINES WILL THEN BE TOWED FROM WET STORAGE OUT TO THE WIND FARM FOR THE FINAL INSTALLATION.SO THE STAGING ASSEMBLY SITE WILL ALSO NEED FACILITIES TO SUPPORT MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF VESSELS THAT WOULD BE NEEDED FOR TOW OUT OPERATIONS.
NOW THE WIND FARMS WILL BE 20 TO 30 MILES OUT FROM OUR COAST IN CENTRAL AND NORTHERN CALIFORNIA.
SO THERE ARE FIVE WIND LEASED AREAS THAT WERE AWARDED IN 2022.
THERE'S THREE OFF OF MORO BAY AND TWO OFF OF HUMBOLDT BAY, AND THEY'RE SHOWN HERE.
NOW, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT NO TURBINES WILL BE DEPLOYED AT OR NEAR LONG BEACH OR IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA FOR THAT MATTER.
THEY'RE ALL IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE STATE OR CENTRAL.
NOW, THE FULLY ASSEMBLED TURBINES WOULD BE AS TALL AS THE EIFFEL TOWER AT 1100 FEET TALL.
SO STAGING AND ASSEMBLY SITE CANNOT BE BEHIND A BRIDGE, WHICH MAKES IT EXTREMELY CHALLENGING TO FIND SUITABLE PORTS ON THE WEST COAST FOR THAT ASSEMBLY OPERATION.
SO IN RESPONSE TO THIS CRITICAL NEED, THE PORT OF LONG BEACH DEVELOPED THE PURE WIND CONCEPT, WHICH IS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO MEET THE UNIQUE REQUIREMENTS FOR STAGING AND ASSEMBLY PORT FACILITIES.
NOW WE BELIEVE THAT THE PORT OF LONG BEACH HAS THE, ALL THE UNIQUE QUALITIES THAT CAN MEET THE SCALE OF OFFSHORE WIND.
UH, WE ARE PART OF ONE OF THE LARGEST INDUSTRIAL PORT COMPLEXES IN THE NA IN THE NATION, OUR OUTER HARBOR AREAS BEHIND THE FEDERAL BREAKWATER.
IT ALREADY HAS DEEP CALM WATER WHERE NEW LAND WILL BE CREATED OUT IN FRONT OF OUR BRIDGE ADJACENT TO ONE OF THE DEEPEST AND WIDEST FEDERAL CHANNELS.
SO THEY'LL BE DIRECT ACCESS TO THE OPEN OCEAN.
AND WE'RE ALSO ADJACENT TO THE STATE'S LARGEST SKILLED WORKFORCE AND MANUFACTURING BASE.
AND WE HAVE ROBUST TRANSPORTATION AND SUPPLY CHAIN LOGISTIC NETWORKS HERE.
AND WE ALSO HAVE EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE DEVELOPING LARGE MARINE INFRASTRUCTURE.
IT'S IN THE PORT OF, OR IT'S IN THE DNA OF THE PORT OF LONG BEACH.
SO PURE WIND WOULD BE THE LARGEST, UH, PURPOSE-BUILT OFFSHORE WIND FACILITY IN THE NATION.
AND IT WOULD FEATURE LARGE STAGING AND INTEGRATION AREAS, WHICH ARE CO-LOCATED WITH, UH, FOUNDATION ASSEMBLY AREAS, A CONTINUOUS HEAVY LIFT WHARF DOCKS THAT SUPPORT PRE-COMMISSIONING TESTING, LARGE WET STORAGE AREAS FOR FLOATING FOUNDATIONS WAITING TO BE INTEGRATED TO THE KEY, A 100 FOOT DEEP SINKING BASIN, ANOTHER LARGE WET STORAGE AREA FOR FULLY ASSEMBLED TURBINES, WAITING FOR TOW OUT DOCKS TO SUPPORT VESSEL LOGISTICS.
AND OF COURSE, AS THE GREEN PORT, IT WILL BE DESIGNED TO BE THE CLEANEST GREENEST OFFSHORE WIND TERMINAL, AND THAT MEANS ZERO EMISSIONS AS FAR AS FEASIBLE.
SO NOW WHEN IT COMES TO SCHEDULED TIME IS GONNA BE OF THE ESSENCE.
THE LONGER IT TAKES TO BUILD PURE WIND, THE LONGER IT WILL BE BEFORE WE HAVE OFFSHORE WIND.
SO WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT NOW, AND WE EXPECT A DRAFT TOWARDS THE END OF 2026.
SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
UM, I AM, UH, CURIOUS ABOUT LIKE THE, SO THE, THE CITY IS, UM, BUILDING THIS INFRASTRUCTURE AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE PRIVATE BUSINESSES ON IT THAT ARE ACTUALLY MANUFACTURING.
UH, THE PORT OF LONG BEACH IS WHAT'S KNOWN AS THE LANDLORD PORT.
SO WE OWN THE LAND AND WE BUILD FACILITIES AND THEN RENT THEM OUT TO, UH, TO, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE CONTAINER TERMINAL OPERATORS AND THE DIFFERENT IMPORTERS AND EXPORTERS THAT, THAT WORK IN THE HARBOR DISTRICT.
WE BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEN WE RENT IT OUT TO TENANTS WHO WOULD THEN DO THE OPERATIONS.
SO THEY WOULD DO THE STAGING AND ASSEMBLY OF THE TURBINES.
UM, OTHER QUESTION, UM, IS THIS ALREADY A APPROVED, UH, IT'S ALREADY BEEN LIKE BUDGET? NO, NO.
WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE EARLY STAGES OF THE ENTITLEMENT, UH, PROCESS.
SO WE, UH, HAVE YET TO RELEASE A DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT, AND THAT WILL COVER THE PERMITTING FROM THE CALIFORNIA SIDE.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO, UH, PERMITTING FROM, WE HAVE TO DO A NEPA DOCUMENT, NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION ACT DOCUMENT TO GET THE FEDERAL PERMITS THAT ARE REQUIRED.
YES, THE, THE E-I-R-E-I-S WOULD BE BROUGHT TO OUR HARBOR COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL.
COMMISSIONER BENNETT, JUST CURIOUS, UM, DID I SAY CORRECTLY, THE PLAN IS FOR ONE COMPLETED BASE EVERY TWO WEEKS? YES.
THE, TO, TO MAKE ONE TO TWO, UH, BASE OR, YOU
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KNOW, ACTUAL TURBINE ABOUT EVERY ONE TO TWO WEEKS TO BE TOWED OUT.50 MEGAWATT CAPACITY EACH? UM, I, I, NO, THE, THE, THEY'RE ABOUT, FOR THE BIGGEST ONES THAT ARE IN EXISTENCE TODAY, IT'S ABOUT 20 MEGAWATTS, BUT WE'RE DESIGNING THE TERMINAL TO BE ABLE TO, UM, HANDLE TURBINES UP TO 25 MEGAWATTS.
JUST A BIT OF SORT OF MENTAL MATH.
UH, OVER A, AT 50 MEGAWATTS A PIECE ABOUT 60 YEARS AT THE WEIGHT OF ONE EVERY TWO WEEKS TO REACH FULL CAPACITY.
AND, UH, EVEN AT 25, IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD TAKE CONSIDERABLY LONGER THAN THE, YOU KNOW, 2031 TO 2045 THAT YOU'RE, WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE THE ONLY STAGING AND INTEGRATION PORT.
THERE'S ALSO HUMBOLDT IS IS ALSO IN THE GAME.
UH, I WAS CURIOUS WHAT PLAN OR HOW IT'S GONNA IMPACT AVIAN AND, UM, MARINE LIFE? SURE.
UM, AT THE PORT OF LONG BEACH, WE HAVE A, A PRETTY THRIVING HARBOR.
WE HAVE A, A, A VERY ROBUST ECOSYSTEM, AND, UH, THE ACT OF CREATING THE NEW LAND WOULD TAKE SOME, UH, IT WOULD TURN WATER INTO LAND.
SO WE WOULD LOSE SOME OF THAT HABITAT.
WHAT WE WOULD DO IS DO, UH, COMPENSATORY MITIGATION.
WE WOULD DO THINGS LIKE CREATE CORAL REEFS OR, UH, ENHANCE WETLANDS AND USE, UH, MITIGATION CREDITS THAT WE HAVE FROM THE, UH, FROM THE, THE RESTORATION OF THE BSSO CHICA WETLANDS, UH, THAT ARE STILL IN OUR MITIGATION BANK TO, TO HELP COMPENSATE FOR THAT IMPACT.
AND THAT'S ALL, UH, RUN BY THE, BY THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND THE AVIAN.
AND THE, UH, THE AVIAN, THE TURBINES WILL NOT BE SPINNING WHEN THEY'RE, UH, AT PORT.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE BEING ASSEMBLED AND, AND BEING COMMISSIONED.
THEY WON'T SPIN UNTIL THEY GO OUT TO THE WIND FARMS IN NORTHERN AND CENTRAL CALIFORNIA.
SO, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S MORE OF A, OF A ISSUE WITH, UH, THE FAA AND AND FLIGHT PATHS THAN THERE IS WITH, WITH AVIAN, UH, IMPACTS.
BUT IT IS, IT IS CLOSE TO AT LEAST TURN NESTING SITE OVER ON THE PORT OF LA SIDE, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE OUR EYE ON.
THIS IS, UH, HONESTLY IS SCARY TO SEE THIS AND BECAUSE IT'S NEW, BUT I HAVE A FEW QUESTION FOR YOU.
I KNOW THAT THE PORTAL DOES A LOT OF THINGS AND TRY TO BE AHEAD OF, YOU KNOW, AHEAD OF THEM ON EVERYTHING AND BEING CLEAN.
BUT WHAT I HAVEN'T SEEN ON THE PRESENTATION THAT I, UH, HAVE ATTENDED IS THAT, WHAT IS THIS THE LIFESPAN OF THE BLADES, I BELIEVE YOU SAY, IN ONE OF THE PRESENTATION 20 YEARS.
RIGHT? I, I, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION WITH ME RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT.
UM, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A USEFUL LIFE AND SO, UH, THEY WOULD COME BACK, YOU KNOW, FROM THE WIND FARMS, UH, TO EITHER AN OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE PORT, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT PORT, OR IT WOULD COME BACK TO, UH, OUR STAGING ASSEMBLY SITE FOR, YOU KNOW, DISPOSAL OF, OF THAT MATERIAL.
WHEN YOU SAY DISPOSAL, THESE, THESE BLADES ARE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO BE REUSED, THEY'RE GONNA DISPOSAL, RIGHT? THEY'LL, THEY'LL BE STEEL, SO THEY'LL BE RECYCLED.
IT WILL BE, ALTHOUGH THE BLADES ARE, ARE THE BLADES WOULD, YEAH, THE, THE, THE EVERYTHING'S MADE OUTTA STEEL AND STEEL IS A COMMODITY.
I THOUGHT THAT THE BLADES ACTUALLY, THEY'RE NOT, UM, METAL.
I THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE LIKE, UM, FIBERGLASS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THE CORRECTION, THE CORRECTION OF THE AIR, THE, THE WHOLE THING IS GONNA RELEASE SOME PARTICLES AND THOSE PARTICLES ARE GONNA GO TO THE OCEAN AS YOU CONSIDERING THAT ON HOW IT'S GONNA AFFECT THE, FOR, FOR OUR TERMINAL.
YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE, THE IMPACTS OF THE WIND FARM ARE ONE THING, BUT OUR TERMINAL, WHERE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ANALYZING IN OUR ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT, AND WE'RE LOOKING VERY CLOSELY AT IMPACTS FROM STORM WATER POLLUTION, YOU KNOW, FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVING THESE, UH, TURBINES IN THE WATER AND WHAT KIND OF IMPACTS THAT'S GONNA HAVE ON THE, THE LOCAL WILDLIFE.
SO THAT'S BEING LOOKED AT IN OUR ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT.
UM, SO DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR BUDGET ON THIS PROJECT, ANY MONEY THAT GOES TO RESEARCH THAT YOU CAN SEE EVENTUALLY BECAUSE TECHNOLOGY IS GROWING AND IS FASTER CHANGING? DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR BUDGET SOME MONEY THAT IS JUST SPECIFIC LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT WAYS OF CREATE, UM, A BETTER, MORE, MORE, UM, LESS
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INVASIVE ABSOLUTELY.THE, AT THE PORT OF LONG BEACH, UH, WE, WE HAVE A TECHNOLOGY ADVANCEMENT PROGRAM, UH, WHERE WE GIVE SEED MONEY TO, TO NEW TECHNOLOGIES THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, ARE ZERO EMISSIONS OR LOWER POLLUTING.
BUT WE, ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, WE HAVE ALSO, UH, COMMITTED TO DOING A TECHNOLOGY REVIEW EVERY TWO YEARS BECAUSE THIS IS A NASCENT TECHNOLOGY.
IT'S JUST NOW DEVELOPING AND GETTING OFF THE GROUND.
AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE USING THE CLEANEST AND GREENEST TECHNOLOGY POSSIBLE SO THAT TECHNOLOGY WILL VIEW, WILL LOOK AT, CAN WE REPLACE CRANES WITH THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, DIESEL POWERED WITH ELECTRIC CRANES? CAN WE REPLACE VESSELS THAT ARE DOING THE TOW OUT WITH HYDROGEN POWERED VESSELS? SO THEY'LL BE, WE'LL CONSTANTLY EVERY TWO YEARS BE DOING ANOTHER TECHNOLOGY TO REVIEW, TO SEE WHERE WE CAN REDUCE EMISSIONS AND WHERE WE CAN REDUCE IMPACTS.
NOW, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT WORKS, BUT DO YOU HAVE, THIS IS A, A REALLY BIG, HUGE PROJECT THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON, AND IT'S GONNA BE A COMMISSION OR ADVISORY, UM, COMMITTEE THAT CAN ACTUALLY OVERSEE HOW IT GOES, HOW IT'S HELP.
I MEAN, THIS IS SO NEW AND IT'S SO BIG THAT I CAN IMAGINE THAT THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT ON THE OCEAN OR WHETHER TO THE PEOPLE, IT'S JUST REALLY HAPPEN.
THE ELECTRICITY THAT YOU ARE EXPECTING TO CREATE IS, IS REALLY HAPPENING.
IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THE PEOPLE CAN BE IN SITTING ON A BOARD OR SOMETHING THAT CAN ACTUALLY SEE, OR HOW YOU GONNA REPORT TO THE PEOPLE HOW THIS WON'T WORK? WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WANNA SAY.
WE, WE HAVE SOMETHING, I THINK ALONG THOSE LINES IN PLACE, WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL OUR ZERO ROUNDTABLE.
SO ZERO STANDS FOR ZERO EMISSIONS ENERGY RESILIENT OPERATIONS.
AND THERE'S OUR ROUNDTABLE IS A GROUP OF, UH, LEADERS FROM EDUCATION, FROM INDUSTRY, UH, FROM LABOR, FROM THE TRIBAL, UH, ORGANIZATIONS, FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE GROUPS ALL COMING TOGETHER.
AND WE TALK ABOUT THE BEST WAY TO IMPLEMENT THIS PROJECT.
NOW WE ALSO HAVE OUR, UH, ZERO COLLABORATIVE, WHICH WAS JUST HELD LAST NIGHT AT OUR MM-HMM
AND, AND THERE WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE PROJECT AND, AND WE GET COMMENTS AND, UH, INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC.
AND WE HAD A REALLY ROBUST, UH, CONVERSATION LAST NIGHT WITH A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT THEY HAVE, SOME OF THE SAME THAT YOU HAVE.
AND, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A, IT WAS A NICE DIALOGUE BACK AND FORTH ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO MITIGATE A LOT OF THE IMPACTS TO THE COMMUNITY.
RIGHT NOW I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS NO MORE.
I JUST WANNA SAY I'M SO PROUD OF THE, FOR OF LONG BEACH.
I'M SURE WE WILL FIND HUGE HOLES THAT WE WILL HAVE TO FILL AND FIGURE OUT AS, AS MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE MENTIONED.
UM, HOWEVER, I THINK THIS IS CUTTING EDGE AND FOR OUR PORT TO BE AT THE HEM OF IT, I THINK IT'S VERY EXCITING, AT LEAST TO EXPLORE.
UM, MY QUESTION, HOWEVER, IS YOU MENTIONED THE WORKFORCE AND YOU ALSO MENTIONED THAT WE A LANDLORD PORT AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PRIVATE COMPANIES.
SO MY QUESTION IS, I'M ASSUMING THAT JOB CREATION DEVELOPMENT IS BEING TALKED ABOUT IN TANDEM WITH THESE HUGE PLANS TO DO THIS TO ENSURE THAT THE RESIDENTS OF LONE BEACH, UM, IN THE EVENT THAT THIS COMES TO FRUITION, RIGHT? THEY ARE A PART AND HAVE STAKE AND CAN COMPETE FOR THE JOBS AND THE TRAINING, UM, THAT WILL BE NECESSARY TO DO THIS.
WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT TO CREATE THOSE PATHWAYS FOR, UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE HIGH SCHOOLS, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE LOCAL COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND ALSO THE TRADE ORGANIZATIONS ALREADY TO CREATE THOSE CAREER PATHWAYS.
WE WANT LOCAL PEOPLE TO GET THESE JOBS.
WE WANT LOCAL HIRES, YOU KNOW, THAT WE, WE WANNA ENHANCE THE COMMUNITY AND GET THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO STAY HERE IN LONG BEACH.
WE'RE BUILDING THIS FOR LONG BEACH.
SO THAT'S DEFINITELY BEEN PART OF THE CONSIDERATION FROM DAY ONE.
I, AND I THINK THAT GOES ALONG WITH, UM, HER QUESTION ABOUT JUST HAVING THE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, WHETHER IT'S ADVISORY, OUR COMMISSION, OR JUST TO ENSURE THAT AS THIS GOES ALONG 10 YEARS FROM NOW, THAT THOSE SAME THINGS AS WE'RE APPROVING IS IT'S GETTING DONE THEN.
FOR WORKFORCE IS DEFINITELY AT THE TABLE.
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FOR LONG BEACH FOLKS, RIGHT, BECAUSE THAT'S RIGHT.WE'VE, WE'VE SEEN IT COME TO HAPPEN AND THEN EVERYBODY FROM THE OUTSIDE IS COMING IN AND SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS HERE, UM, GET THE OPPORTUNITY.
UH, VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO LONG BEACH'S LEADERSHIP ROLE IN THIS NEW, UH, VERY LOW CARBON, UH, ELECTRICITY GENER GENERATING CAPABILITY.
UH, I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS.
UH, UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY'S RETICENCE.
UM, SOME OF THIS IS NEW TO US.
ON THE OTHER HAND, UH, ELECTRICITY GENERATION FROM WIND TURBINES IS, IS NOT NEW.
WE'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR, YOU KNOW, 50 YEARS, UH, ABOUT, UH, GLOBALLY.
UH, OFFSHORE WIND IS A LITTLE LU NEWER, UH, 15, 20 YEARS, BUT THERE'S, UH, DECADES OLD DECADE PLUS OLD, UH, OFFSHORE WIND FACILITIES IN, ESPECIALLY OFF NORTHERN EUROPE.
UM, AND SO WE, WE DO KNOW A LOT.
ONE THING WE DO KNOW IS THE ALTERNATIVE IS CONTINUING TO BURN FOSSIL FUELS, WHICH IS HORRIFIC FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, UH, IN MANY WAYS, BOTH, UH, WATER POLLUTION, AIR POLLUTION, AND CLIMATE.
AND SO, UH, AS WE TALK TO OUR COMMUNITY, FELLOW COMMUNITY MEMBERS, LET'S MAKE SURE WE ALWAYS, UH, WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS, YOU KNOW, BUT WHAT ABOUT THOSE WIND TURBINE BLADES? OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE OBJECTION IS, UH, LET'S ALSO REMIND THEM, THINK ABOUT WHAT WE GIVE UP IF WE DON'T MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION.
SO, UH, ALWAYS A, UH, ALWAYS IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE, UH, HELPING PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE BALANCE.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UM, I, SOME OF MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN AT LEAST PARTIALLY ADDRESSED.
I WAS TOO CURIOUS ABOUT, UM, HOW LOCALLY YOU EXPECT THE MANUFACTURING OF THE COMPONENTS TO BE AND WHAT THE JOB PROSPECTS LOOK LIKE FOR, UM, LONG BEACH FOLKS.
I WAS ALSO CURIOUS, IS THIS, UM, LARGE PROJECT PURELY ADDITIVE FOR THE PORT OPERATIONS AND THE SCOPE OF WHAT HAPPENS AT THE PORT? OR IS THIS DISPLACING SOME EXISTING, UM, PORT TRAFFIC AND PORT ENERGIES THAT HAPPEN, UH, CURRENTLY? AND THEN I JUST ALSO WANTED TO THROW MY HAT IN.
I WAS READING ABOUT, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS IN THE PLANS.
YOU WERE, YOU WERE MENTIONING THE DIESEL AND THE TECHNOLOGY CHANGING, AND IT SOUNDED LIKE A, LIKE A LOT OF THE TUGS AND CRANES HAD POTENTIALLY CLEAN OPTIONS OR IT WASN'T CLEAR.
AND SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD MY VOICE TO THE, WHEREVER WE CAN MAKE A CHOICE, UM, OBVIOUSLY TO BURN SOMETHING CLEANER, UH, CLOSE TO ALL OUR RESIDENTS AND SCHOOLS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE MAKE THAT CHOICE WHEREVER FEASIBLE.
AND I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT THERE'S A PLAN TO CONTINUOUSLY REEVALUATE IT AS THIS LONG TERM PROJECT GOES TO.
SO, UH, TO, FOR YOUR FIRST QUESTION, THE, THE CEC ACTUALLY IS DOING A STUDY RIGHT NOW TO, FOR MANUFACTURING AND FABRICATION OF PARTS TO SEE IF THEY CAN GET IT TO BE 60% IN CALIFORNIA.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT, I, I'M NOT SURE IT'S GONNA BE LONG BEACH CENTRIC, BUT I MEAN, FOR CALIFORNIA, KEEPING THOSE JOBS AND THAT ECONOMIC ACTIVITY IN LONG BEACH IS GO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S, OR IN CALIFORNIA WOULD BE THE GOAL FOR 60% OF IT.
I KNOW A LOT OF IT MIGHT BE OVERSEAS.
I KNOW KOREA DOES A LOT OF, UH, THE, THE, THE FABRICATION OF THESE PARTS AS WELL.
SO WE, THERE MIGHT BE IMPORTING AS WELL.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE, THE LAYOUT OR LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE SPLIT IS GONNA BE, BUT, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING A STUDY TO SEE IF THEY COULD GET TO 60%.
AND CAN YOU REMIND ME OF YOUR OTHER QUESTION? OH, IS THIS ADDITIVE? YES, IT WOULD BE ADDITIVE.
WE'RE, WE'RE BUILDING 400 ACRES OF NEW LAND OUT WHERE THERE'S JUST WATER.
IT WOULD DE DISPLACE, UH, OUR ANCHORAGES.
AND WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR PORT PILOTS FOR ALTERNATIVE ACREAGE SITES.
YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE THIS FACILITY'S GOING.
SO IT WOULD BE ADDITIVE COMMISSIONER COULDN'T HEAR.
UM, YOU MENTIONED, UH, THESE TWO OFFSHORE WIND AREAS.
UM, ARE THERE OTHER MARKETS THAT THE, UM, THE
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PIER WIND FACILITY CAN, UM, SUPPLY LIKE MEXICO OR, UM, IS IT JUST THESE TWO, THESE TWO AREAS RIGHT NOW? UH, THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO IN CALIFORNIA.I BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE OTHERS PLANNED IN OREGON AND WASHINGTON AND THOSE ARE GETTING FARTHER AND FARTHER AFIELD.
SO IT MIGHT BE THAT THERE'S PORTS, YOU KNOW, CLOSER THAT WOULD SERVICE THOSE.
UM, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY IF THERE WERE WIND FARMS, UH, IN THE MEXICAN WATERS THAT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, SEND THEM THERE.
THERE'S, IN ORDER TO GET TO 25 GIGAWATTS, CALIFORNIA'S GOAL, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO OPEN UP MORE WIND ENERGY AREAS AND THEY'LL LIKELY BE IN THE NORTHERN PARTS OF THE STATE.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE WIND IS.
SO, UM, THERE'S LIKE A SPECIFIC AMOUNT, UH, LIKE LET'S SAY INITIAL ORDER TO SUPPLY THE, THESE WIND AREAS.
UM, AFTER THAT I WOULD IMAGINE IT KIND OF TAPERS OFF AND THEN DOES THE FACILITY, DOES PURE WIND JUST BECOME LIKE A MAINTENANCE FACILITY, OR IS IT ALWAYS GONNA CONTINUE MANUFACTURING? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
UH, WE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE WAS A QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT HOW LONG, OR, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY TURBINES THAT WE WOULD NEED TO GET TO THAT 25 GIGAWATTS.
WE, IT WOULD BE SEVERAL DECADES THAT IT WOULD BE CHURNING OUT, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, TURBINES, YOU KNOW, UNTIL 2045, YOU KNOW, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA HIT THAT 25 GIGAWATTS BEFORE 2045.
BUT I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT THE FACILITY WOULD BECOME AFTER, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, YEAH.
WHETHER IT CONTINUES TO MANU OR ASSEMBLE THESE TURBINES AND, AND SEND THEM OUT, OR TO REPLACE THE OLD TURBINES AFTER THEY'VE BEEN OUT THERE FOR 20 YEARS, OR WHETHER IT BECOMES, YOU KNOW, A OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE FACILITY.
THAT'S, IT'S TOO, TOO FAR IN THE FUTURE.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO IMPACT OUR ECONOMY.
I KNOW THAT, UM, A LOT OF, HISTORICALLY, OUR ECONOMY HAS BEEN PROPPED UP BY THE OIL WELLS, AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO, YOU KNOW, REPLACE SOME OF THAT.
COULD YOU SPEAK TO THE FINANCIAL IMPACT? THERE'S GONNA BE QUITE A FEW JOBS THAT ARE GONNA BE CREATED.
UH, AND THERE'LL BE GOOD PAYING JOBS.
THERE'LL BE, YOU KNOW, FAMILY SUPPORTING JOBS.
AND, UH, AS IT, IT, THERE'S A LOT OF SIMILARITIES BETWEEN OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING AND, YOU KNOW, EXTRACTION OF FOSSIL FUELS AND CREATING ENERGY THAT WAY TO CREATING ENERGY, THIS NEW CLEAN WAY.
SO A LOT OF THOSE JOBS CAN TRANSITION.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, AS, AS, UH, WE DIVEST FROM FOSSIL FUELS AND START INVESTING IN RENEWABLE ENERGY, THERE'S, THERE'S GONNA BE A TRANSFER, I THINK, OF, UH, OF AVAILABLE JOBS AND MAYBE A RETRAINING AND RETOOLING OF, OF PEOPLE'S CAREERS.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I'M WONDERING IN TERMS OF THE CITY OF LONG BEACH, UH, GETTING MONEY FROM, OH, YES.
THERE, THERE, THERE WOULD BE, UH, A, A SUBSTANTIAL RENT.
UH, WHAT, LIKE, WE'RE A LANDLORD.
THAT'S HOW WE PRIMARILY, UH, COLLECT OUR, OUR REVENUE IS THROUGH RENTING OUT OUR TE OUR TERMINALS.
AND SO THE, THE TERMINALS, UH, THAT, THAT THE PER SQUARE FOOT IS SOME OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE REAL ESTATE TO LEASE IN THE NATION.
AND SO WHEN IT'S BUILT, IT'S, IT'S A, A, A GENERATOR OF REVENUE.
AND SO THAT WILL CONTINUE TO BE THAT GENERATOR OF REVENUE FOR DECADES AND TO COME.
AND DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF THE NUMBERS, OR YOU JUST I DON'T HAVE THOSE WITH ME, NO.
YOU HAVE A QUESTION? GO AHEAD.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UM, I THINK IN TERMS OF NUMBERS, I DID READ THE BUDGET, UH, BEFORE THIS PRESENTATION.
I THINK IT'S ANTICIPATING ABOUT 1.3 BILLION AND ABOUT 6,000 JOBS FOR CALIFORNIA IN GENERAL, LET ALONE, AS JAMES HAD MENTIONED, BEING THE LANDLORD STATE IT, UM, LANDLORD PORT, IT DOES HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF REVENUE GENERATIONS.
BUT I DID HAVE A QUESTION RELATED THAT MAY NOT HAVE AN ANSWER TO IT, BUT THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION DID, UM, DID, DID NOT TAKE BACK THE FUNDING FOR, I THINK ABOUT $675 MILLION RELATED TO OFFSHORE PORT WIND WORK.
I DO KNOW PROPOSITION FOREST FUNDING, SOME OF THIS, UM, ALMOST, I THINK THE FIRST PHASE IS FOUR 75 MILLION.
AND YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING TO ADD SOME MORE, AS YOU KIND OF PROGRESS WITH IT.
HOW IS SUPPORT KIND OF MANAGING THAT FINANCIAL DEFICIT WITH THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION, FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION? SO NONE OF THAT MONEY THAT WAS RESCINDED WAS FOR LONG BEACH.
I, I MENTIONED EARLIER, HUMBLED IS ALSO BUILDING A SIMILAR SITE.
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GRANT JUST CANCELED.AND, AND SO THAT'S UNDER THE FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION ON THE FEDERAL SIDE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT EXPECTING ANY SUPPORT IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS, UM, AT LEAST.
AND SO WE LOOK TO THE STATE, YOU KNOW, THAT IT, IT'S THE STATE'S GOALS TO HIT 20, UH, 45 GIGAWATTS.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HOPING TO FIND PARTNERSHIPS.
WE'VE ALREADY, UH, RECEIVED A $20 MILLION GRANT FROM THE, UH, CALIFORNIA ENERGY COMMISSION TO COMPLETE THE ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS, WHICH I MENTIONED THAT WE'RE, WE'RE MIDWAY THROUGH.
AND THEN, UH, ALSO COMPLETE DESIGN OF THE, OF THE FACILITY.
NOW, UH, THERE'S ALSO ADDITIONAL MONEY IN PROP FOUR THAT WE'RE HOPING TO SECURE FOR, YOU KNOW, CONTINUED, UM, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION FOR PLANNING, UH, OF THE FACILITY AS ANY MITIGATION CREDITS PART OF THAT REVENUE GENERATION STREAM AS WELL.
AND WHAT PERCENTAGE WOULD IT BE? UH, I, I DON'T KNOW THE PERCENTAGE, BUT THERE WOULD BE MITIGATION FUNDS.
THIS WOULD, UH, PROJECT WOULD FEED INTO OUR, UH, COMMUNITY, UH, MITIGATION GRANT PROGRAM, OUR COMMUNITY GRANT PROGRAM, SO THAT THAT PROGRAM FUNDS THINGS LIKE PARKS AND FILTERS FOR SCHOOLS ON THEIR HVAC, YOU KNOW, ENERGY EFFICIENT LIGHTING, UM, PEDESTRIAN, UH, AND BIKEWAYS.
UH, IT, IT FUNDS ALL SORTS OF INFRASTRUCTURE ALL THROUGHOUT, UH, LONG BEACH, UH, IN THE MOST IMPACTED COMMUNITIES.
AND SO THIS PROJECT WOULD CONTRIBUTE FUNDING INTO THEIR COMMUNITY GRANTS PROGRAM, AND IT WOULD BE DOLED OUT, YOU KNOW, TO, TO GRANTEES.
WELL, NOT, NOT LAST QUESTION, THE CLARIFICATION.
UH, I, I MEAN, I DIDN'T READ THE WHOLE THING.
I'M VERY CURIOUS ABOUT THE BLADES, BECAUSE I HAVE A GRANDKID THAT IS SIX YEARS, AND I DON'T WANT IN 20 YEARS, YOU KNOW, BE WALKING ON, ON BLADES EVERYWHERE.
AND SO MY QUESTION IS, I'VE BEEN TRY TO LOOK IN THE PROJECT THAT YOU PRESENTED THE BLADE, UM, MATERIALS, AND NOWHERE SAYS THAT IT'S GONNA BE METAL.
AND WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT METAL, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE ALUMINUM, WHICH IS VERY EXPENSIVE.
AND EVEN THE PICTURES, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T HAVE THE PRESENTATION RIGHT NOW, BUT THE PICTURE I, I PAY PAY ATTENTION ON THE PICTURE AND IT LOOK LIKE IT'S MORE LIKE, LIKE A DIFFERENT MATERIAL THAN, THAN METAL.
I, I HAVE TO ADMIT, AND SO I, I ASSUMED THAT IT WAS STEEL.
WELL, OKAY, WHEN I WENT TO THE MEETING, UM, I DON'T KNOW, I COULDN'T GO LAST NIGHT BECAUSE I HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO DO.
BUT WHEN I WENT TO A DIFFERENT MEETINGS, I'VE BEEN ASKING THE SAME QUESTION, AND EVERYBODY'S TELLING ME THAT THE, THAT THE BLADES ARE GONNA BE MADE NOT ON METAL.
AND I REALLY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE SOME KIND OF PROJECT OR HOW YOU GONNA USE THOSE THINGS WHEN, WHEN THE, WHEN THE LIFESPAN ENDED FOR THIS BLADE.
AND, AND THAT'S, FOR ME, IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
NOT ONLY FOR ME, IT'S FOR, AS I SAY, THE NEXT GENERATION.
AND IT MIGHT LOOK VERY NICE FOR ME BECAUSE I GONNA HAVE ELECTRICITY AND ALL THOSE THINGS, BUT WHAT ABOUT, WHAT ABOUT MY KIDS? RIGHT? WHAT, WHAT IS GONNA HAPPEN ON, BECAUSE WE TALKING ABOUT TONS ON TONS OF MATERIAL THAT IS NOT RECYCLABLE.
AND THAT'S WHY I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR YOU TO COME OVER HERE TO LET US KNOW WHAT IS REALLY THE PLAN IN SUSTAINABILITY.
I KNOW THAT THE PLAN ITSELF IS SUSTAINABLE, BUT THE PLAN AS THE, HOW WE GONNA MAKE THIS GOOD FOR EVERYBODY, NOT FOR NOW, THIS GENERATION, LIKE I JUST SAY, IT'S GONNA TAKE 40 YEARS TO GET TO THAT POINT.
SO WHAT IS GONNA HAPPEN WITH THOSE BLADE 40 YEARS? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOUBLE THE, OF TRASH.
SO, SO THE, THE PORTAL LONG BEACH IS GONNA BUILD THE TERMINAL, AND WE'RE GONNA LEASE IT TO WIND OPERATORS WHO RUN THE WIND FARMS. SO WE, WE DON'T HAVE VERY DIRECT INVOLVEMENT IN HOW THEY RECYCLE THEIR MATERIALS OR, OR HOW TO DEAL WITH THE BLADES.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE AN ISSUE FOR THE OPERATORS OF THE WIND FARMS WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN THEY'RE OPERATING, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND TAKING CARE OF THEIR TURBINES AND TAKING CARE OF THEIR WASTE.
AND THIS WOULD BE ALL ANALYZED IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENTS TO SUPPORT THE WIND FARMS. SO, I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.
I CAN SPEAK TO THE TERMINAL THAT WE'RE BUILDING HERE AT THE PORT OF LONG BEACH, WHICH IS JUST TO ASSEMBLE THOSE TURBINES SO THAT THEY COULD BE TOWED OUT TO THE WIND FARMS.
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OKAY.UM, THIS IS PARENTHESIS, THE PORT OF LONG BEACH HAS THAT TENDENCY.
THE PORT OF LONG BEACH IS CLAIMING TO BE THE ZERO, UM, WASTE.
SO WHAT THEY DOING IS THEY NOT ALLOWING THE TRUCKS, ONLY CLEAN TRUCKS CAN GO TO THE PORT.
BUT WHEN THEY GO OUT, GUESS WHAT? IT GOES TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND FROM THAT TRUCK, THAT TRUCK IS GONNA THROW EVERYTHING THERE, AND THEN THE DIRTY TRUCKS ARE GONNA COME OVER HERE.
SO IF I GO TO THE PORT AND I SAY, YOU'RE NOT REALLY CLEAN BECAUSE YOU ARE AFFECTING THE COMMUNITY, YOU SAY, IT IS NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
SO I REALLY WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT IT'S FOR THE PORT, EVEN THOUGH YOU PASS THE RESPONSIBILITY OR YOU PASS THE WORD TO SOMEBODY ELSE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS SAFE, THAT HEALTH IS PART OF THIS, THE FORMULA.
BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T PUT THE HEALTH ON PART OF THE FORMULA, IT'S GONNA HAPPEN OVER AND OVER AND OVER.
AND THE PROBLEM IS NOT GONNA BE ON THE EAST, IT'S NOT GONNA BE ON CERTAIN AREAS.
IT'S GONNA BE ON MY COMMUNITY, AND I'M NOT GONNA LET THAT HAPPEN, AND I GONNA FIGHT LIKE CRAZY.
BUT IT'S, IT'S JUST SAD WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
I, I, WE HEAR YOUR CONCERNS AND, AND WE TAKE THEM TO HEART.
UH, COMMISSIONER GAETAN, I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH YOU AFTERWARDS WITH SOME MORE DETAIL, BUT, UM, I'M PRETTY DEEPLY FAMILIAR.
UH, I'VE, UH, WORKED IN SUPPORT OF A, UH, AN ONSHORE WIND FARM IN A DIFFERENT AREA, UH, JUST A COUPLE OF FEW YEARS AGO.
UM, THE, THERE'S A LOT OF MEMES OUT THERE ON THE INTERNET ABOUT HOW HORRIBLE WIND TURBINE BLADES ARE, AND LOOK AT THEM ALL BEING BULLDOZED INTO LANDFILLS.
THAT'S A TINY, TINY FRACTION OF THE TOTAL VOLUME OF STUFF THAT WE PUT IN LANDFILLS.
AND, UH, WE, ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS IS THE RENEWABLE ENERGY INDUSTRY IS DOING A GREAT JOB OF LOOKING AT, UH, LIFECYCLE IMPACTS OF ALL THE MATERIALS, UH, WHICH IS NOT HAPPENING WITH THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY.
WE BURN 15 BILLION TONS OF COAL, OIL AND NATURAL GAS EVERY YEAR, 15 BILLION TONS A YEAR.
UM, AND SO THE WIND TURBINE BLADES, UH, LIKE SOLAR PANELS, WHEN THEY REACH END OF LIFE, LIKE THE FRAMES FOR SOLAR PANELS AND THE STRUCTURES FOR TURBINES AND LIKE BATTERY CHEMICALS, A A SUBSTANTIAL PART OF THOSE ACTUALLY CAN BECOME PART OF CIRCULAR ECONOMY.
AND, UH, DESIGN IS BEING DONE TO DO THAT.
UH, AND AGAIN, THAT'S IN DIRECT, UH, DISTINCTION FROM THE ONCE THROUGH FOSSIL FUEL ECONOMY, BURN IT, POOF, IT'S GONE.
SO THE, UH, THE CIRCULAR ECONOMY ASPECT IS GOING TO KICK IN.
UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF WIND TURBINE BLADES OUT THERE ARE MADE OF COMPOSITE MATERIALS, UM, UH, EITHER CARBON FIBER OR, UH, THINGS LIKE FIBERGLASS.
AND UNTIL, UH, JUST THE LAST FEW YEARS, MOST WIND TURBINE BLADES WERE CONSIDERED NOT TO BE RECYCLABLE OR REUSABLE BECAUSE THEY, THEY WERE OPTIMIZING FOR LIGHTWEIGHT, UH, AND STRENGTH, NOT FOR, UH, REUSABILITY, RE RECYCLABILITY.
THEY'VE ADDED THE RECYCLABILITY INTO THE LIST OF, UH, PRIORITY CONCERNS NOW.
AND SO THE, THE CURRENT GENERATION OF WIND TURBINES ARE BEING BUILT WITH BLADES THAT ARE GOING TO BE, UH, SOMETHING YOU CAN CUT UP.
I, I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A LITTLE BIT LONGER.
I KNOW THAT YOU CAN USE IT FOR, UH, CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT MY POINT IS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A LITTLE ONE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A COMPLETELY, UH, HUGE PROJECT, IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS NOT GONNA AFFECT, YOU KNOW, THE LITTLE ONE IS OKAY IF IT'S A LITTLE PROJECT, BUT THIS IS A HUGE, HUGE PROJECT MM-HMM
AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE PORT KNOWS THAT SOMETIMES PASSING THE RESPONSIBILITY IS NOT JUST LETTING DO WHATEVER.
IT'S, IT HAS TO STILL, IT HAS TO BE PART OF THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PORT TO LOOK FOR US THAT WE ARE USED, THAT WE ARE GETTING THE MORE, UM, MORE AFFECTED FOR WHATEVER THEY DO, WHATEVER THEY DECIDE, WE ARE THE FRONT ON THE FRONT LINE.
SO IT'S, IT'S, FOR ME, IT'S IMPORTANT.
I KNOW, AND I WANNA HEAR FROM HIM.
HE IS NOT AN ENGINEER, I GUESS YOU ARE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT STAY ON THE, ON, ON,
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ON THE NOTE FOR THIS MEETING, UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN, AND, UH, JUST REPEAT THAT.I ALWAYS WANT US TO CONSIDER THE ALTERNATIVE, WHICH IS CONTINUING TO BURN GAS AND COAL SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND, AND COMMISSIONERS, I'LL JUST TAKE THIS TIME TO INTERJECT.
UM, JUST BASED ON THE COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS, IT'S JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER OF ANY COMMISSIONERS IF THEY, IF THEY'RE GOING TO REACH OUT TO COMMISSIONERS TO KEEP THIS CONVERSATION GOING OUTSIDE OF OPEN PUBLIC FORUM, THAT CAN EASILY LEAD TO A BROWN ACT VIOLATION.
UH, THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD DEFINITELY BE, UH, TO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO PASS ON ANY INFORMATION TO FERN OR OTHER STAFF MEMBERS WHO COULD DISSEMINATE IT TO OTHER COMMISSIONERS.
BUT JUST BEING MINDFUL, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY THIS IS A PRIME EXAMPLE.
I THINK, UH, ALL THE COMMISSIONERS REMEMBER THE BROWN ACT KIND OF TRAINING, HOW SOMETIMES HEATED TOPICS, UM, AND, AND IMPORTANT TOPICS TO THE COMMISSION, UH, CAN LEAD TO COMMISSIONERS WANTING TO CONTINUE THE, TO ENGAGE WITH EACH OTHER OUTSIDE, UH, ONCE THE COMMISSION MEETING IS DONE.
SO JUST A, A, A REMINDER THAT THOSE, THOSE ARE HOW WE GET TO THOSE BROWN ACT VIOLATIONS.
JUST A QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION, BROWN ACT VIOLATIONS HAPPEN ONLY WHEN A MAJORITY, A QUORUM ARE INVOLVED IN A DISCUSSION.
AND NOT JUST THE SINGLE DISCUSSION, BUT THE DAISY CHAIN TYPES OF SITUATIONS.
SO I THINK WE, YEAH, WE UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT APPRECIATE THE REMINDER.
I DID HAVE ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION, JUST KIND OF ALONG THE SAME VEIN OF, UM, WE'RE ACTING AS LANDLORDS, UM, AND AS FAR AS LIKE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE AND OVERSIGHT, DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY RESPONSIBILITY TO, TO KIND OF LIKE, UM, MANAGE THAT, LIKE, I GUESS WITH ENFORCEMENT, AGS OR, OR REGULATORY COMPLIANCE AS FAR AS ON AN ONGOING BASIS? IS THERE ANY RESPONSIBILITY OR, UM, I GUESS CONSEQUENCES IN ONGOING LIKE CHECK-INS WITH THE, THE OPERATORS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE COMPLYING LIKE WITHIN THE CONFINES OF, UM, MAYBE PERMITS OR, OR ANY OF THOSE TYPE OF STIPULATIONS? THE, THE MAIN LEVERAGE THAT THE PORT HAS AS A LANDLORD IS THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL COVENANTS.
SO IN OUR GREEN LEASES, WE PUT, UH, REQUIREMENTS ON WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.
THINGS LIKE ZERO EMISSIONS GO IN THERE, THINGS LIKE STORM WATER POLLUTION PREVENTION GO IN THERE.
AND SO, UH, THAT, THAT'S HOW WE CAN KIND OF ENFORCE THAT OUR TENANTS ARE ACTING IN AN ENVIRONMENTAL RESPONSIBLE WAY.
I THINK THAT CONCLUDES THE QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS.
SO WE'RE READY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND PERSON THAT WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER THREE, PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM.
NOW, SEEING NONE, THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.
THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK, CAN WE PLEASE CALL FOR A VOTE? THANK YOU SO MUCH.
COMMISSIONER BENNETT, IF YOU'D LIKE TO PROVIDE A VOICE VOTE, I CAN TAKE THAT.
BUT ANY IDEA WHY MY PARTICULAR DISPLAY IS JUST NOT DOING ANYTHING BEING DONE? IT COULD JUST BE A SYSTEM ISSUE.
WELL, ANYWAY, WE CAN GET AROUND IT.
CAN YOU PLEASE READ THE NEXT ITEM? ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS A RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A REPORT FROM CURRENT AD HOC COMMITTEES, DISCUSS ANTICIPATED AD HOC COMMITTEES FOR UPCOMING PROJECTS, AND IF APPROPRIATE, TAKE ACTION TO DISSOLVE OR CREATE AD HOC COMMITTEES.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THIS ITEM.
[4. 25-56797 Recommendation to receive and file a report from current Ad Hoc Committees; discuss anticipated Ad Hoc Committees for upcoming projects; and, if appropriate, take action to dissolve or create Ad Hoc Committees. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
I BELIEVE WE HAVE A REPORT FROM THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, UM, FOR THIS ITEM CHAIR GAINS BEFORE, UH, BEFORE THE REPORT GOES, I JUST WANNA PUT A REMINDER SLIDE UP, SAME ONE AS LAST TIME.
SO EVERY TIME WE HAVE AN AD HOC REPORT, WE'LL GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS.
SO WE HAD OUR PROPOSED ACTION MOTION AND SECONDED.
UH, WE WILL OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, OR MAYBE WE REARRANGE THIS ONE LAST TIME.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A REPORT FROM THE CURRENT AD HOC COMMITTEES.
WE HAVE ONE, UH, ACTIVE RIGHT NOW THAT CAN REPORT.
AND THEN AFTER THAT REPORT, WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION OF ANY POTENTIAL NEW AD HOC COMMITTEES, ENSURING THAT THAT PROPOSAL ALIGNS WITH OUR WORK PLAN, AND THEN IDENTIFY POTENTIAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
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THAT CONCLUDES, THEN THE COMMISSION COULD THEN DISCUSS DISSOLVING ANY EXISTING AD HOC.SO IF, UH, IF DURING YOUR REPORT YOU DECIDE THAT YOU NO LONGER NEED THE CURRENT ONE, THIS WOULD BE THE TIME TO DO THAT.
UM, AND THEN WE STAFF CAN GUIDE YOU THROUGH IF SOMETHING NEEDS TO CHANGE WITH THE MOTION BASED ON HOW THE DISCUSSION, UH, CARRIES OUT TODAY.
YOU SHOULD WE, SHOULD WE PROCEED FORWARD WITH THE REPORT? YES.
UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS TIME.
WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS AN UPDATE ON THE EV BATTERY RECYCLING VIABILITY UPDATE PART OF IT.
SO WE ALL KNOW THAT EV BATTERY RECYCLING, IT'S NOT JUST, IF IT'S GONNA HAPPEN, IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
SO THE COMMITTEE WAS FORMED JUST TO FOCUS ON SEEING IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY OF LONG BEACH TO TAKE A LEAD AND POTENTIALLY FOCUS ON ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, BUT ALSO, UH, SORT OF REPLACE SOME OF THE REVENUE GAP THAT'S COMING UP, UH, WITH OUR BUDGET.
SO THROUGH OUR INITIAL DISCUSSIONS OF THE FOCUS WAS BASED ON SENATE BILL SIX 15, WHICH I KNOW IS STILL STALLED IN GOVERNOR NEWSOM'S OFFICE.
HOWEVER, HE HAS SUPPORTED IT FROM AN EXTENDED PRODUCER'S RESPONSIBILITY.
SO AS WE FURTHER CONTINUED OUR RESEARCH, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO SORT OF POSITION CITY OF LONG BEACH MORE AS A LOGISTIC HUB.
AND SO THIS ALIGNS WITH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE RECOMMENDATIONS RIGHT NOW.
AND AS THE BILL KIND OF CONTINUES THROUGH THE PROCESS, THE POTENTIALLY STANDS REVENUE OF ALMOST 20 TO $30 MILLION AS A MUNICIPAL COLLECTION SYSTEM.
BUT IF LONG BEACH DECIDES NOT TO DO THAT, THERE'S ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REVENUE GROWTH FOR CITY OF LONG BEACH IF WE FOCUS ON POTENTIALLY BEING A LOGISTIC HUB.
SO MY MOTION FOR RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMITTEE IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PRESENTING A REPORT TO COUNCIL.
I DO KNOW THAT WITH THE STAFF, UH, THE COMMITTEE PROBABLY HAS A LOT MORE RESEARCH AND BACKGROUND ON IT.
SO WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT A DRAFT FOR STAFF TO PRESENT IT TO COUNCIL, POTENTIALLY IN DECEMBER.
THAT WOULD BE THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
AND I THINK WHAT COULD HAPPEN IS, UH, YOU CAN DISCUSS THIS, THIS NOW AND THEN, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED A MOTION FOR THAT.
I BELIEVE IF, UH, AFTER THIS MEETING CONCLUDES THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CHAIR MEETS WITH STAFF REGULARLY TO TALK ABOUT ITEMS TO ADD TO THE AGENDA IN THE FUTURE.
SO THE, UM, CHAIR GAINS, YOU COULD COME TO STAFF AND REQUEST TO ADD THIS TO THE DECEMBER 11TH MEETING IF YOU THINK THAT THE, THE REPORT WILL BE READY BY THEN SO THAT IF, IF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE CONTINUES, UH, PAST THIS MEETING TONIGHT, YOU CAN WORK ON WRITING THIS REPORT AND SUBMIT A DRAFT TO STAFF.
AND THEN WE COULD, UH, HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA FOR DECEMBER 11TH FOR THE ENTIRE COMMISSION TO REVIEW.
AND THEN, UM, IF AT THAT POINT, THEN WE COULD FIGURE OUT IF, IF IT'S READY TO SUBMIT TO COUNCIL OR IF YOU WANT, UM, AFTER YOU GET THE WHOLE COMMISSION TO WEIGH IN, IF YOU NEED TO DO ADDITIONAL WORK BEFORE, AND THEN WE COULD BRING IT TO A FUTURE ITEM.
BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE PROPER WAY TO DO IT.
YOU DON'T NEED TO MOTION THAT.
YOU COULD JUST DISCUSS IT NOW AND THEN, UH, THE CHAIR WOULD REQUEST TO ADD IT TO A FUTURE AGENDA.
DO, UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER, GOODNESS I A STICKY BUTTON.
ARE THERE ANY, UM, QUESTIONS FROM OTHER COMMISSIONERS OR COMMENTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE? I HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, SO, UH, YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT DO YOU WANNA PRESENT SOMETHING BUT YOU DON'T HAVE NOTHING FOR US TO READ ON, ON? RIGHT NOW, WE'VE PROVIDED A SET OF REVIEW IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESEARCH ASPECT OF IT.
SO BASED ON THAT, I THINK WE STILL HAVE A LITTLE MORE WORK TO DO IN TERMS OF KIND OF CONNECTING WITH RECYCLING COM COMMUNITIES, MAKING SURE SOME OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ON BOARD FOR IT.
SO WE, I'VE DONE THE MATH BEHIND IT, THAT IT DEFINITELY MAKES LOGISTICAL SENSE IN ORDER TO DO THAT.
IT DOES POSITION CITY OF LONG BEACH TO BE MORE OF A FORWARD LEADER AS A LOGISTIC HUB.
UM, A COUPLE OF OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE IT.
THEY HAVEN'T REALLY MOVED FORWARD WITH IT IN TERMS OF, BECAUSE OF SENATE BILL SIX 15 IS STILL PENDING.
BUT IF CITY OF LONG BEACH TAKES THIS OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD AND KIND OF BE A LITTLE MORE FOR FEAR FRONT OF IT.
SO I THINK WE CAN ACTUALLY BRING IN A LOT MORE REVENUE IN THROUGH SOME OF THE COLLECTION SYSTEM FEES AND ADMINISTRATIVE TASKS.
I THINK THE FEASIBILITY STUDY, WHICH IS WHAT WOULD BE RECOMMENDED IN THE REPORT, WOULD PROVIDE A FAR, MUCH MORE DETAILED ASPECT.
SO THE MOTION WOULD TYPICALLY BE FOR HAVING STAFF TO PRESENT TO COUNCIL TO TAKE THIS FORWARD FOR A FEASIBILITY STUDY.
CAN WE ACT ON SOMETHING THAT HAS, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT THIS ITEM WAS ON THE AGENDA AND, BUT NOT HAVING REALLY NUMBERS OR, IT'S, IT'S REALLY HARD FOR, FOR ME TO SAY.
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WITH THEM, I TOTALLY WITH THE COMMISSION, BUT IT IS HARD FOR ME TO, UM, TO SAY, OKAY, MOVE FORWARD AND PRESENT IT WHEN I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING.WHEN THE COMMUNITY HASN'T SEEN ANYTHING, IS, IS THAT OKAY? SO THAT'S, I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.
SO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE IS REPORTING THAT THIS IS WHERE THEY ARE NOW.
AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO REQUEST THAT THE ENTIRE COMMISSION REVIEW THE REPORT AND DISCUSS IT AT A FUTURE MEETING, LIKELY DECEMBER 11TH.
SO, UM, AT THAT MEETING, YOU'LL HAVE, I ASSUME A DRAFT WILL BE READY OF SOMETHING TO REVIEW, AND THEN THE COMMISSION COULD DECIDE IF YOU WANT TO REQUEST STAFF TO BRING IT FORWARD TO COUNCIL OR NOT.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE THE PROPER ACTION THAT WOULD HAPPEN AT A FUTURE MEETING.
CAN WE VOTE? IT WOULD BE IZED IF WE ALL AGREE NOW THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN WE VOTE ON LETTING THEM GO FORWARD? NO.
THEY MOVING FORWARD, RIGHT? NO, THEY, THEY'RE ASKING OUR, YOU DON'T NEED AN OFFICIAL VOTE, BUT IT WOULD BE GOOD IF YOU WANTED TO TRY TO GET CONSENSUS THAT YOU THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT THE AD HOC COMMITTEE TO MOVE FORWARD ON.
BECAUSE IF, IF MOST OF THE COMMISSIONERS DON'T FEEL THAT THEY WANNA MOVE FORWARD, THEN THE AD HOCS GOING TO DO A LOT OF WORK AND THEN, OH, OKAY.
THEN IT MAY NOT BE APPROVED BY THIS BO THIS BODY IN THE FUTURE.
SO IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, THAT YOU DON'T THINK IT'S, YOU SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, I WOULD EXPRESS THOSE CONCERNS NOW.
'CAUSE THIS IS YOUR ONLY OPPORTUNITY BEFORE THE REPORT, THE DRAFT REPORT IS PRESENTED FOR YOU TO WEIGH IN.
SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, UM, NOW IS THE TIME.
BUT, BUT JUST BECAUSE WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH AD HOC COMMITTEE DOESN'T MEAN THAT THIS IS GOING TO GO BEFORE COUNCIL.
THERE'LL BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR REVIEW BY THE COMMISSION, AND THE REVIEW WOULD BE AT A, AT OUR SUBSEQUENT MEETING.
AND THEN WOULD WE VOTE WHETHER TO MOVE FORWARD AT THAT POINT? I JUST WANNA CLARIFY.
THE, THE AD HOC COMMITTEE WOULD, WOULD GO TO YOU AS THE CHAIR AND SAY, OKAY, WE'RE READY TO BRING THIS FORWARD.
AND THEN YOU WOULD REQUEST STAFF TO ADD IT TO THE NEXT AGENDA.
AND THEN WE WOULD WORK WITH AD HOC COMMITTEE TO, TO FIGURE OUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE PRESENTED IN ADVANCE OR WHAT CAN BE PRESENTED AT THE MEETING IN TERMS OF A DRAFT REPORT OR A POWERPOINT OR SOMETHING.
AND THEN AT THAT MEETING, WHETHER IT'S DECEMBER 11TH OR IN THE FUTURE, UM, THEN THE COMMISSION WOULD GET ANOTHER PRESENTATION FROM THE AD HOC.
IT WOULD BE A SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM, NOT LIKE THE AD HOC REPORT.
IT WOULD BE A SEPARATE ITEM AND THEN YOU WOULD REVIEW THE REPORT AND, UM, MAKE, HAVE A DISCUSSION AND THEN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OR NOT.
MY, MY QUESTION WILL FOR YOU WILL BE, DO YOU THINK THAT AFTER YOU FINISH ALL YOUR, UH, YOUR RESEARCH, IS IT GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT IS WORTH TO PRESENT TO THE CONSULT? THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK THAT IS GONNA MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE? OR WHAT THEY DOING NOW? SO WE CAN PRESENT IT? I THINK IT WILL GIVE THE COUNCIL AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW FOR ANOTHER REVENUE STREAM FOR LONG BEACH.
AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR DOING THAT.
MY, MY CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE GIVEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF SUPPORT TOWARDS IT, INCLUDING THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
SO I'VE GOTTEN SOME BACKEND FEEDBACK ON THIS.
AGAIN, THE COMMITTEE, OUR, OUR, OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO NOT PROVIDE THE ENTIRE FEASIBILITY STUDY.
'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT THE EXPERTS IN IT.
IT'S JUST AN IDEA THAT I THINK THE COUNCIL SHOULD CONSIDER.
AND WE HAVEN'T AGENDAS ANYTHING FROM THIS COMMISSION TO THE COUNCIL.
AND I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S A LOW HANGING FRUIT WHERE WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE ANOTHER REVENUE STREAM THAT THE COUNCIL COULD CONSIDER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FOR PRO POTENTIALLY 2027.
YOU GIMME NO VERY SIMPLE OP, UM, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? WHAT IS THE OPPORTUNITY AND WHAT IS INVOLVED? SO THE OPPORTUNITY IS JUST FOR EV RECYCLING FOR BATTERIES OF, PARTICULARLY FOR CARS, FOR THE ELECTRIC CARS.
SO I KNOW SENATE BILL SIX 15 WAS PUT FORWARD BY GOVERNOR NEWSO IN ORDER TO FOCUS ON MAKING SURE EVERYTHING GETS RECYCLED AND THE BATTERIES ARE, YOU KNOW, HAVE A FOCUS FOR RECYCLING FACILITIES.
BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCREPANCY IN THE INITIAL BILL THAT WAS PASSED.
AND SO IT'S STALL FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
SO NOW THIS S SP SIX 15 HAS COME BACK IN AND IT'S STILL INACTIVE BECAUSE GOVERNOR NEWSOM IS KIND OF PRODUCING MORE TOWARDS HAVING THE EXTERNAL PRODUCTION.
SO IF LONG BEACH SAYS EITHER WE DO IT AS A MUNICIPAL OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE CAN THEN COLLECT FEES FOR THE RECYCLING OF THOSE BATTERIES, IT DOES HAVE A MARKET TENDENCY OF UP TO ABOUT 20 MILLION TO $30 MILLION OVER A PERIOD OF THREE YEARS.
IF LONG BEACH DECIDES TO SAY, OKAY, THAT'S NOT WHAT'S FEASIBLE FOR US.
AND THEN WE ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD TO MAYBE A HYBRID OPTION WHERE IT COULD BE A HUB AND SORT OF BEING THE IN BETWEEN PERSON WHERE WE STILL COLLECT A PERCENTAGE OF THE FEES, THEN IT STILL IS A REVENUE STREAM FOR THE CITY OF LONG BEACH.
AND AT THIS POINT WITH TITLE PROGRAMS KIND OF SORT OF FING OUT, CREATING A REVENUE STREAM THAT BRINGS IN MONEY TO LONG BEACH WITHOUT A LOT OF EFFORT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK THE COMMISSION DOES HAVE A GREAT RESPONSIBILITY TO PUT FORWARD TO COUNCIL.
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I THINK THIS IS A SMALL LOW HANGING FRUIT THAT'S NOT GONNA COST, THE FEASIBILITY STUDY SHOULDN'T BE ANY MORE THAN 25 TO $30,000.I THINK SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY COULD BE CONSIDERED AND BRING IN A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE FROM THE REVENUE STREAM, WHICH THEN ALSO PUTS OUR COMMISSION ON THE FOREFRONT THAT WE HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN IN A REALLY LONG TIME.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE INTENTION OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE WAS.
OH, OH, GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER MARSH.
UM, AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION OF THE COMMITTEE, UH, A UH, PERSPECTIVE ON THIS IS I, I CAME TO THIS COMMITTEE A LITTLE BIT SKEPTICAL THAT WE WOULD FIND, UH, YOU KNOW, A SUBSTANTIAL REVENUE STREAM.
I STILL DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN OR NOT THAT THE, UH, BUT I THINK THERE'S ENOUGH, UH, POSSIBILITY THERE THAT IT'S WORTH RECOMMENDING TO TAKE A LOOK, UH, TO, TO HAVE THIS RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE FEASIBILITY STUDY.
BROADLY, UH, WE ALL WANT TO, WE WANT A CIRCULAR ECONOMY.
WE WANT WHAT RECYCLING HAS PROMISED US NOT THE 9% OF MATERIAL THAT WE THOUGHT WE WERE RECYCLING ACTUALLY GOT RECYCLED.
UM, HOWEVER, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL DECADES, BATTERIES IN VEHICLES HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE MOST HIGHLY RECYCLED COMMODITIES IN OUR ECONOMY.
95, 90 6% OF THE LEAD ACID BATTERIES THAT START OUR GASOLINE CARS, UH, GET RECYCLED.
AND THAT'S BEEN HANDLED WITH A PRETTY MODEST THING.
YOU PAY 10 OR 20 BUCKS EXTRA WHEN YOU BUY THE BATTERY AND THEN YOU GET IT BACK IF YOU TURN THE BATTERY IN FIVE YEARS LATER WHEN IT DIES.
UH, IT'S, AND THERE ARE ALREADY AT LEAST SEVEN COMPANIES AND PROBABLY MORE BY NOW THAT ARE WORKING ON RECYCLING ELECTRIC VEHICLE BATTERIES.
UH, THAT'S GONNA BE, UH, VERY LUCRATIVE BECAUSE THAT THE BATTERY IN MY ELECTRIC CAR CURRENTLY HAS ABOUT 800 POUNDS OF RARE EARTH MINERALS AND LITHIUM AND COPPER AND THINGS.
ALL IT HAS TO DO IS, ALL THAT HAS TO HAPPEN IS IT GET GROUND UP AND CHOPPED UP AND THE MATERIALS SEPARATED, BUT THAT'S LESS EXPENSIVE THAN GOING OUT AND MINING NEW, UH, MATERIALS.
SO IT'S GOING TO BECOME, UH, PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE A TON OF GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION, BUT WHAT'S THE RIGHT LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT? AND THAT'S BEEN PART OF THE HESITATION.
SENATE BILL SIX 15 HAS IT PASSED ONCE OUT OF THE LAST THREE YEARS.
IT GOT VETOED BY NEWSOM IN 2023 WHEN IT PASSED THEN, UH, AND IT DIDN'T PASS THE ASSEMBLY THIS YEAR, BUT, UM, IT, THE, THE POINT IS THERE'S GONNA BE, ONCE WE GET A LOT OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES ON THE ROAD, WE'RE GONNA HAVE SEVERAL BILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR IN, UH, RE IN BATTERIES TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THEM.
AND SO IF LONG BEACH CAN TAKE A LOOK AND, YOU KNOW, BECOME A LOGISTICS HUB FOR THAT, LIKE WE'RE A LOGISTICS HUB FOR PURE WIND, YEAH.
UM, THAT, THAT COULD BE A GOOD THING.
ONE OTHER THING I LIKE ABOUT THIS IS IT'S A RECOMMENDATION TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS FOR ECONOMIC FEASIBILITY, NOT JUST WAVING THE GREEN FLAG, UH, FOR ENVIRONMENTAL GREEN, BUT WE ALL NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO, UH, WALLET GREEN AS WELL.
AND SO LOOKING AT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE IS, UH, IS A VALUABLE FORWARD THINKING PERSPECTIVE, I BELIEVE.
AND THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PART OF THE GOVERNMENT IS ECONOMICS AND YEAH, IT WILL GIVE US A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT SOMETHING THAT MIGHT HELP AND STILL BE GREEN.
AND I THINK IN OUR RECOMMENDATION.
UH, I THINK IN OUR RECOMMENDATION WE ALSO FOCUS ON SOME OF THE AREAS THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IN YOUR DISTRICT AND, YOU KNOW, THE WAYS THAT KIND OF COMES FROM IT, AND THEN THE ASPECT OF WHAT THAT RECYCLING LOOKS LIKE FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL PERSPECTIVE.
BUT I BELIEVE IF WE PRESENTED THE COUNCIL THAT IN ADDITION TO DOING GREEN, YOU CAN ACTUALLY LEVERAGE THIS AND MAKE IT A STRATEGIC ASSET IS WHAT I'M HOPING CITY OF LONG BEACH WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH.
I'M JUST CURIOUS, DO YOU KNOW IF THERE'S, UH, ANY MARKET FOR REUSE OF THE BATTERIES PRIOR TO RECYCLING? HAS THAT BEEN ESTABLISHED? 'CAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LESS EFFICIENT, BUT THEY'RE NOT FULLY SPENT WHEN THEY COME OUT OF A VEHICLE.
YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY THE SCIENCE PART OF IT THAT THE FEASIBILITY STUDY WOULD FOCUS ON.
YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THE REUSE OF THAT BATTERY IS PRETTY LOW JUST BECAUSE OF THE
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WAY THE MINERALS ARE BEING SPENT FROM A CHEMICAL PERSPECTIVE.BUT THE RECYCLING ASPECT OF IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A MODEST $10 THAT YOU PAY BACK TO YOUR ACTUAL MANUFACTURER.
BUT IF YOU ACTUALLY DID DO THE RECYCLE AND REUSE IT, YOU HAVE A POTENTIAL OF HAVING REVENUE GENERATION FOR UP TO 500 TO ABOUT $2,000 PER BATTERY.
AND THEN IF YOU REUSE AND RESELL IT, THAT'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR A LAND LEASE, SORT OF AN OP, YOU KNOW, SORT OF THE SIMILAR CYCLE WITH THE WAY THE PORT HAS BEEN DOING.
A CITY CAN KIND OF LEVERAGE THAT, BUT THE FEASIBILITY STUDY SHOULD GO MORE DETAIL INTO WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
I'D LIKE TO JUST GIVE MY SUPPORT TO CONTINUING ON WITH THE COMMITTEE AND JUST, UH, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY OBJECTIONS OR ANYTHING.
SO CAN WE JUST, WELL MAJORITY I'VE TAKEN NOTE OF IT.
I JUST HAD A A A QUICK A QUESTION ON THE, BECAUSE 20 30,000 SEEMS LOW FOR FEASIBILITY STUDY TO MEET.
SO, UM, BESIDES THE LIKE ECONOMIC, UM, PORTION OF IT AND THE REUSE OF THE BATTERY, ARE THERE ANY OTHER, LIKE WHAT, UM, WHAT OTHER QUESTIONS ARE YOU HOPING TO GET ANSWERED OUT OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY? WHEN THE FEASIBILITY STUDY SHOULD GO INTO THE TAM, THE, YOU KNOW, TOTAL AVAILABLE MARKET, BASICALLY SEE WHAT'S BEING DONE FROM A SCIENTIFIC PERSPECTIVE, THE RECYCLING ASPECT OF IT TO MAKE IT MORE OF A CIRCULAR ECONOMY.
THAT'S WHAT THE FEASIBILITY STUDY WILL FOCUS ON, BUT ALSO FOCUS ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF THE USE.
AND THEN ALSO THE REVENUE GENERATION OF POTENTIALLY HAVING CITY OF LONG BEACH AS A LANDLORD FOR IT.
IF I WOULD JUST BE MY HIGH LEVEL REVIEW MM-HMM
UM, AGAIN, THE, THE CONSULTANT SELECTED SHOULD HAVE SOME OF THOSE ASPECTS TO IT, BUT A FEASIBILITY STUDY IS PRETTY STANDARD IN TERMS OF FOCUSING ON THOSE ASPECTS.
IS THERE MORE? AND IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN PROVIDE JUST A, UH, A VERY SHORT, UH, PIECE OF RESPONSE TO, UH, COMMISSIONER BROWN.
THE, THERE ACTUALLY IS A REALLY VIBRANT, EMERGING, UH, MARKET FOR REUSING ELECTRIC VEHICLE BATTERIES, UH, AT THE END OF THEIR LIFE IN A VEHICLE, BUT LONG BEFORE THEY GET TO THE BEING RECYCLED.
SO, UH, LET'S SAY A BATTERY, UH, THE FLEET AVERAGE FOR VEHICLE LIFE IN THE UNITED STATES IS AROUND 17 YEARS.
SO, UH, LET'S SAY, UH, MY TESLA BATTERY WILL BE IN A CAR FOR 17 YEARS, THEN SOMEBODY WRECKS THE CAR, NOT ME.
'CAUSE I WILL HAVE SOLD IT BY THEN, BUT THE, UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE CAR GETS WRECKED OR WHAT, YOU KNOW, IS NO LONGER USABLE, BUT THE BATTERY IS STILL IN PERFECTLY GOOD CONDITION, ALTHOUGH MAYBE 10 OR 20% DEGRADED AS YOU ALLUDED TO.
UM, THERE'S A REALLY VIBRANT, UM, MARKET EMERGING FOR THOSE BATTERIES TO COME OUT OF THE VEHICLES AND GO INTO STATIONARY STORAGE ATTACHED TO THE GRID FOR ANOTHER 10 OR 20 OR 30 YEARS WHERE THE, UM, THE BATTERY, UM, CAPACITY IS NOT QUITE AS CRITICAL BECAUSE IT'S NOT A MOBILE APPLICATION.
AND SO THE, WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING TO SEE IS THAT MANY ELECTRIC VEHICLE BATTERIES MAY SERVE FIRST LIFE, SECOND LIFE AND 30, 40 OR EVEN 50 YEARS BEFORE THEY GET RECYCLED.
UH, AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE ENVISIONING IS GONNA COME WITH THAT PIECE OF THE CIRCULAR ECONOMY.
I JUST WANTED TO ALSO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT, UM, BUT ALSO I JUST TO, TO KEEP WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER MARSH'S KIND OF FRAMEWORK OF, OF WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE.
UH, WE, WE GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY PUSH SOMETHING ON BEHALF OF THIS, THIS COMMISSION TO THE, TO OUR COUNCIL.
AND I THINK THAT'S SUPER EXCITING.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY KUDOS TO, TO THE AD HOC GROUP FOR EVEN INVESTIGATING AND TAKING THE TIME TO REALLY HAVE SOMETHING, UM, TO, TO PUSH FORWARD ON BEHALF OF THIS TEAM.
AND I THINK AS A NEW WORK COMMISSIONER, I JUST THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE ARE GONNA ACTUALLY MOVE SOMETHING OR AT LEAST HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO A, PRESENT IT TO THE COMMISSION AND THEN MOVE IT FORWARD TO, TO THE COUNCIL AND, AND REALLY ADD ADDITIONAL MEANING TO THIS, THIS GROUP THAT WE'RE ALSO THINKING ABOUT THE WELLBEING OF THE CITY STRATEGICALLY AS FAR AS MONEY IS CONCERNED IN, IN A STREAM OF INCOME.
UM, TO SECOND THAT THANK YOU AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR YOUR WORK AND FOR YOUR REPORT OUT TODAY, UM, I THINK AS PART OF THIS AGENDA ITEM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M DOING THIS CORRECTLY.
WE ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO AND
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ANTICIPATE ANY UPCOMING OR ANY ADDITIONAL AD HOC COMMITTEES THAT MAY WANT TO BE CREATED.SO THIS IS THE TIME NOW FOR THE COMMISSION TO DISCUSS THAT AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN, UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE, BUT ALSO DISSOLVE AD HOC COMMITTEES IF NECESSARY.
SO I THINK THIS AGENDA ITEM WILL COVER ALL OF THOSE ITEMS. OKAY.
SO I WILL ASSUME WE WILL
WE'LL MAINTAIN THE CURRENT AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT WE HAVE.
SO I THINK WE'RE, NOW WE'RE READY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF THERE ARE MANY, ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM.
SEEING NONE, THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.
CAN YOU PLEASE CALL FOR THE VOTE
CAN YOU PLEASE READ THE NEXT ITEM? ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM RESOURCES, OR EXCUSE ME, ANNOUNCEMENTS AND RESOURCES FROM THE OFFICE OF CLIMATE ACTION SUSTAINABILITY.
I PLEASE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
MOVE BY COMMISSIONER BENNETT, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GATIN
[5. 25-56802 Recommendation to receive and file announcements and resources from the Office of Climate Action and Sustainability. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
OKAY.SO OUR, THIS IS OUR, OUR TYPICAL STAFF ANNOUNCEMENTS.
WE'RE GOING TO JUST DO A RECAP OF WHAT WE'VE, UH, WHAT WE'VE DONE SINCE OUR LAST MEETING IN AUGUST.
TALK ABOUT SOME UPCOMING THINGS, UPDATES, AND THEN TALK ABOUT, UM, WHAT'S, WHAT'S NEXT AND, AND RESOURCES FOR FURTHER LEARNING.
SO, UH, SINCE OUR AUGUST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL EVENTS.
WE HAD A RESTORATION FRIDAY EVENT.
WE HAD OUR SEVENTH ANNUAL RANCHOS WALK, WHICH WE, WE TALKED ABOUT IN AUGUST.
UM, HOPEFULLY SOME OF YOU WERE ABLE TO ATTEND.
IT'S A NINE MILE WALK FROM RANCHO TO RANCHO, AND THIS YEAR WE HIGHLIGHTED TREES IN THE CITY.
SO A WONDERFUL EVENT TO PROMOTE, UH, PHYSICAL ACTIVITY, PEDESTRIAN WALKABILITY, AND JUST, UH, REALLY LEARNING ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE CITY AND BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER.
WE DID A TREE PLANTING FOR CLEAN AIR DAY AND HAD ANOTHER RESTORATION FRIDAY IN OCTOBER.
AND THEN, UH, A TREE PLANTING IN WILMORE CITY ON OCTOBER 18TH.
AND WE ALSO HAD A WORKSHOP AT THE DANA LIBRARY ON OCTOBER 21ST AND SOME OF OUR UPCOMING EVENTS.
WE ARE KICKING OFF OUR URBAN FOREST PLAN, AND WITH A VIRTUAL KICKOFF MEETING ON OCTOBER 28TH, WE HAVE A NEIGHBOR TO NEIGHBOR EVENT AT THE MUSEUM OF LATIN AMERICAN ART ON NOVEMBER 8TH AND ANOTHER TREE PLANTING EVENT IN BIGSBY ON NOVEMBER 15TH.
UH, WE DO HAVE, UH, AS YOU'VE HEARD LARRY TALK ABOUT, I'M SURE WE HAVE, UH, A VERY BIG WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, YOUTH WORKFORCE PROGRAM THAT WE OPERATE OUT OF WILLOW SPRINGS PARK.
WE ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF, UH, CREATING URBAN GREENING JOBS AND SUPPORTING YOUTH IN THE CITY.
AND WE'RE HAPPY TO, TO SAY THAT WE HAVE, UH, FOUR NEW CALIFORNIA CLIMATE ACTION CORPS FELLOWS THAT JOINED US AS OF SEPTEMBER 22ND, I BELIEVE.
UH, SOME OF THEM ARE HERE, IF THEY COULD STAND UP.
YOU COULD SEE TWO OF OUR FELLOWS WHO ARE HERE FOR THE YEAR.
VERY EXCITED TO HAVE THEM HERE, HELPING WITH A LOT OF OUR PROGRAMS. UH, AT, IN OUR OFFICE, UH, THE LONG BEACH COMMUNITY COLLEGE OR LONG BEACH CITY COLLEGE HAS A NEW DEPARTMENT, THE OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY, I BELIEVE THEY'RE CALLED, UNDER THEIR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORKFORCE PROGRAM.
AND THEY HAVE, UH, AN INAUGURAL COHORT OF VIKING CLIMATE ACTION FELLOWS THAT JUST STARTED THIS SEMESTER.
WE HAVE, UH, ONE WORKING ON THE CLIMATE ACTION TEAM SIX, UH, IN THE URBAN GREENING FIELD CREW AT WILLOW SPRINGS PARK AND TWO, AS PART OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, UH, TEAM THAT AARON ROWLAND SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER.
SO, VERY EXCITED FOR A NEW, UH, CLIMATE FELLOW PROGRAM HAPPENING IN LONG BEACH AND, YOU KNOW, WORKING CLOSELY WITH CITY COLLEGE.
SO, UH, AGAIN, VERY, VERY GREAT TO HAVE THESE OPPORTUNITIES TO BRING YOUTH, UH, INTO THE CITY, TO, UH, EXPOSE THEM TO WHAT WE DO AS A CITY AND TEACH THEM ABOUT WHAT IT'S, WHAT OPPORTUNITIES THERE ARE IN THE CITY TO LEARN ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY AND CLIMATE ACTION AND TURN THAT INTO A CAREER IF THEY'RE INTERESTED.
AND THEN OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE
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DECEMBER 11TH.UH, JUST A REMINDER, ESPECIALLY FOR SOME OF THE NEWER COMMISSIONERS.
TRADITIONALLY OUR MEETINGS ARE THE FOURTH THURSDAY OF EVEN MONTHS.
UH, JANUARY IS A BONUS MEETING SO THAT WE CAN DO OUR YEAR REVIEW, OUR COMMISSION RETREAT, AND THEN TALK ABOUT OUR WORK PLAN FOR THE YEAR.
UH, AND SO, UH, IN JANUARY WE WILL ESTABLISH THE, THE NEW CALENDAR FOR 2026.
BUT THIS, UH, WE HAVE STUCK WITH THIS SCHEDULE FOR, FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
UH, THE OCTOBER MEETING, UH, WE HAVE MOVED IT BEFORE BECAUSE WE HAVE A, AN, UH, CITY STAFF TRAINING THAT HAPPENS AT THE END OF OCTOBER, UH, AND HAS CONFLICTED THE LAST TWO YEARS.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE MEETING THE THIRD THURSDAY TODAY.
AND THEN BECAUSE OF THE END OF THE YEAR HOLIDAYS, UH, WE HAVE MOVED THE DECEMBER ONE, UH, TYPICALLY TO THE, THE FIRST OR SECOND THURSDAY OF THE MONTH.
SO, UH, THAT IS OUR, OUR CADENCE OF MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
OUR NEXT MEETING, THE TOPIC WILL BE TRANSPORTATION, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, UH, ACTION ITEMS AROUND TRANSPORTATION.
AND, UH, WE'LL HAVE A, A PRESENTATION, SOMETHING, UH, AN EMERGING ISSUE.
SIMILAR TODAY WE HAD, UH, THE ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, UH, GROUP COME AND TALK AND TALK ABOUT SURF AND, AND WASTE.
WE WILL HAVE SOMEBODY COME TO TALK ABOUT, UH, SOMETHING EMERGING IN TRANSPORTATION.
IN THE PAST, WE'VE HAD, UH, OUR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION MICRO MOBILITY TEAM FROM PUBLIC WORKS COME AND SPEAK.
WE'VE HAD LONG BEACH TRANSIT COME BEFORE, SO, UH, AND WE'VE HAD THE PORT COME AND TALK ABOUT THEIR, THEIR, UM, CLEAN TRUCKS PROGRAM TOO.
SO, UH, THAT ARE, THOSE ARE SOME POTENTIAL THINGS THAT WE COULD HAVE PRESENTING IN DECEMBER.
AND THEN, UH, TO LEARN MORE, THIS IS JUST AN OPPORTUNITY BETWEEN MEETINGS OR AS A FOLLOW UP TO WHAT WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT TODAY FOR THE COMMISSION TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT, WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE CITY.
AND SO WE DO HAVE TWO LINKS HERE, UH, FOR, TO TALK ABOUT THE PURE WIND STATE GRANT, AND THEN OUR LONG BEACH RECYCLES PROGRAM, WHICH IS THE PRESENTATION YOU HEARD FROM AARON AND JANE TODAY.
AND THEN, UH, WE DID HAVE CONGRESSMAN ROBERT GARCIA AT THE RANCHOS WALK.
SO THERE, THERE'S A, AN ARTICLE THERE ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN WE HAVE AN ARTICLE IN THE PRESS TELEGRAM ABOUT OUR CLEAN AIR DAY TREE PLANTING PROGRAM AT THE SCHOOLS.
AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR ANNOUNCEMENTS.
IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, WE CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.
I DO, UM, I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
I RECEIVE AN EMAIL FROM, UM, FROM MARGARET, UH, THE, THE ENVIRONMENT, NO NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES VERY WELL.
AND I, I SAW THAT WE ARE NOT GONNA BE, I MEAN, I, IT IS A QUESTION FOR, FOR JASON.
I BELIEVE THAT YOU GUYS ARE NOT PLANNING TO PLANT ANY OTHER TREES MAYBE IN SIX OR A YEAR BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE, THE, THE WATERING PLAN, UM, UPDATED OR SOMETHING.
IS THAT GONNA CHANGE THE, THE GOAL OF THE SUSTAINABILITY DEPARTMENT ON PLANTING TREES? BECAUSE WHAT I SEE ON THE EMAIL IS THAT JASON SAYS THAT THE, THE WATER IS NOT, THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY FOR WATER IN THE NEW TREES.
UM, SO WE HAVE A PLAN FOR PLANTING TREES THIS YEAR.
AND WITH ALL OF THOSE, UM, AND THAT, THAT'S, UH, ANTICIPATING RESIDENT REQUESTS, UM, WE HAVE A WATERING PLAN FOR ALL OF THOSE TREES.
UH, HOWEVER, OUR WATERING CAPACITY WHEN WE INCLUDE ALL THOSE IS MAXED OUT.
WE'VE GOT OUR CREW GOING OUT ALL ALMOST EVERY DAY WATERING.
WE'RE, UH, PAYING CONSERVATION CORD TO DO A LOT OF WATERING ON TOP OF THAT, IT'S OVER A THOUSAND TREES NOW ON THE LIST BETWEEN OUR TWO CREWS.
SO WE CAN'T ADD ANY MORE PLANTINGS THAT ONE OF THOSE TWO CREWS WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ON TOP OF THE 800 THAT WE'RE DOING THIS YEAR.
SO YEAH, I'VE ENCOURAGED MARGARET IN THE PAST TO, TO SEND US, UH, OPPORTUNITIES TO PLANT AND WE LOVE DOING THAT.
BUT RIGHT NOW, WHEN WE GET THOSE NEW LOCATIONS FROM HER, WE'VE GOTTA PUT THAT ON OUR LIST FOR PLANTING, EITHER AT THE END OF THIS SEASON, IF WE FIND THAT WE HAVE CAPACITY TO DO MORE WATERING OR AT THE START OF THE NEW SEASON WHEN SOME OF THOSE OLD TREES THAT WERE WATERING ARE ESTABLISHED AND WE CAN TAKE THEM OFF THAT LIST AND ADD NEW ONES.
SO THAT'S, THAT WAS THE RESPONSE THAT I GAVE TO HER IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE, THOSE 36, WE'D LOVE TO PLANT THOSE.
WE'LL HAVE THEM ON OUR LIST IN THE FUTURE, BUT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO ADD NEW TREES THAT OUR CREW OR CONSERVATION CALL YOU ALREADY THE WATER ANTICIPATE.
SO YEAH, RESIDENT REQUESTS, IF A, A RESIDENT REQUEST A TREE AND THEY ARE GONNA TAKE CARE OF IT, THAT'S GREAT.
WE'LL BUY THAT, PLANT IT AS SOON AS WE CAN.
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ANYTHING THAT'S GONNA BE ADDED TO OURS OR CONSERVATION COURSE WATERING LIST, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DELAY UNTIL SOME OF THE OLDER TREES ARE ESTABLISHED AND WE CAN PULL.IS THAT GONNA CHANGE YOUR GOAL OF PLANTING TREES FOR NEXT YEAR? NO, NO.
I MEAN, THAT'S ALL, IT'S ALL KIND OF BAKED IN.
SO FOR INSTANCE, WE'RE PLANTING IN HAMILTON NEXT WEEK.
WE'VE GOT 30 TREES THAT ARE GOING IN.
THOSE ARE ALREADY PART OF THE PLAN FOR THIS YEAR.
BUT, UM, YEAH, MARGARET'S REQUEST FOR, FOR 30 NEW TREES ON ATLANTIC, THAT'S NOT PART OF THE PLAN.
AND SO BECAUSE WE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR WATERING THOSE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL WE'VE GOT CAPACITY TO DO THAT.
THE NUMBER FOR RESIDENTS TO REPLACE DEAD TREES IN THEIR YARD IS, IS THAT AVAILABLE? OH, YEAH.
UM, JUST I CAN GIVE YOU MY PHONE NUMBER OR THE, UM, OH, THE, OR THE, OUR WEBSITE.
'CAUSE UH, I, I WAS GOING TO PASS IT ALONG JUST TO OH YEAH, SURE.
THERE'S TREES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I KNOW RESIDENTS ARE TIRED OF LOOKING AT.
YOU CAN JUST, UH, SEARCH LONG BEACH, UH, TREE PLANTING OR, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PROVIDE ALL THE, THE INFORMATION.
ANOTHER QUESTION, CAN WE GET THE, UM, I KNOW THAT YOU DIDN'T SEND THE PRESENTATION FROM THE PORT.
CAN I HAVE IT? WE DID SEND A PRESENTATION FROM THE PORT AND IT'S, IT'S ONLINE ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA.
ANOTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS.
UM, I WON'T BE HERE IN DECEMBER.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER WAYS THAT I CAN BE A PART OF THE MEETING OR IS THAT JUST LIKE, YOU MISSED IT, YVETTE? YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY, IF YOU'RE NOT PRESENT, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO COMMENT ON ANY OTHER PRESENTATIONS OKAY.
YOU'RE WELCOME TO WATCH THE RECORDING LATER THOUGH.
UM, THE PUBLIC COMMENT WAS ALWAYS AT THE BEGINNING BECAUSE WE WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE PEOPLE THINKING, AND MAYBE WE CAN BRING THOSE QUESTIONS AND ELEVATE THE VOICE FOR WHATEVER PEOPLE IS HERE.
AND I NOTICE IT THAT NOW IT'S ON THE, ON THE, ON THE END.
UM, MAYBE YOU CAN ASK, I JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT HAPPENED OR HOW DID THAT CHANGE.
SO THERE ARE TWO, UM, SECTIONS IN EACH ITEM WHERE THE COMMISSION CAN DO DISCUSSION.
THE FIRST PART IS ASKING, CLARIFYING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PRESENTATION SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN ALSO HEAR THAT AS WELL, AND TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN THEY'RE MAKING THEIR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
AND THEN IF THERE IS PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO DISCUSS AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENT, TO TAKE IN THE, UM, PUBLIC'S CONSIDERATION AS WELL AS CHANGE THE MOTION IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO.
SO THE, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SECOND DISCUSSION BECAUSE THERE WAS NO PUBLIC COMMENT TO PROVIDE.
I THINK ANOTHER BENEFIT IS THE PUBLIC CAN SEE THE WHOLE PRESENTATION, UM, BEFORE THEY COMMENT AS WELL.
SO WE WANNA ADD DISCUSSION AFTER.
SO THERE IS COMMISSION, THERE IS ALREADY A DISCUSSION.
AS PART OF THE AGENDA, THERE'S A DISCUSSION, UM, FOR THE COMMISSIONERS AFTER THE PRESENTATION, PUBLIC COMMENT, AND THEN A CHANCE TO DISCUSS, UM, AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF, IF COMMISSIONER GATON, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, HOW IT'S AT THE END OF THE AGENDA AFTER THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS? ALSO THAT ALSO THAT ALSO, NOW I NOTICE IT THAT THE COMMENTS FOR THE, YEAH, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A REQUIREMENT OF WHERE THAT IS ON THE AGENDA.
AND THE CHAIR HAS THE ABILITY TO MOVE THAT IF, IF SHE WANTED TO REQUEST THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT EARLIER IN THE AGENDA TOO.
UM, SO I THINK NOW IS THE TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
FOR THIS ITEM, CLARK, CAN WE CALL FOR THE VOTE? COMMISSIONER BENNETT, IF YOU'D LIKE TO PROVIDE A VOICE VOTE, I CAN TAKE THAT
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THANK YOU.UM, LET'S MAKE SURE, UM, OKAY.
UM, AT THIS TIME WE CAN TAKE NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS.
IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THINGS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA, PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM.
SEEING NONE, THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.
UM, NOW IS THE TIME FOR ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS
[PUBLIC COMMENT Opportunity to address the Climate Resilient and Sustainable City Commission on non-agenda items. Each speaker is limited to three minutes to make their comments unless extended by the Chair.]
FROM COMMISSIONERS? ANY, UH, I WILL ALSO NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEND THE DECEMBER 11TH MEETING.ANY OTHER COMMENTS FOR COMMISSIONERS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? NO.
I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO THE AHA COMMITTEE.
IF THERE'S NO, UM, OBJECTIONS, I'LL DECLARE THE MEETING.