* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. CALL ORDER ROLL CALL [00:00:01] PLEASE, SIR. MATTHEW PETERSON. JAN CHRONIC. HERE. DEBORAH CASTRO. HERE. JEFFREY OZAR. HERE. DAVID LINK HERE. JODY. ME. WE HAVE QUORUM. THANK YOU, SIR. UM, WELL HERE WE'RE GUYS. UH, THIS IS THE LAST, UH, THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING OF THE YEAR, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE DARK IN DECEMBER. UH, SO THIS IS GONNA GO VERY QUICK. THERE'S NO REAL, UH, SURPRISES HERE. UH, THE ONLY THING I'D LIKE TO REPORT IN THE, THE CHAIR'S MESSAGE, UH, IS JUST AN OBSERVATION. AND I THINK YOU GUYS ARE ALL GONNA, UH, AGREE AND BE HAPPY WITH THE OBSERVATION, THE OUTCOME OF, OF THE METER INCREASE. UM, WE, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY REAL NEGATIVE PUSHBACK ON THAT, AND THAT KIND OF MAKES ME, UH, FEEL PRETTY GOOD. UH, I THINK THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS, CERTAINLY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PUTTING, UH, UH, MONEY IN THE METERS, YOU KNOW, VISITORS TO THE SHORE ON A LARGE EXTENT. VISITORS THE SHORE ARE NOT PUSHING BACK. WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA HEAR THE NUMBERS AND REPORT, UH, IN A FEW MINUTES. UH, BUT IT'S GONNA ALLOW US TO, UH, CONTINUE AND GET BACK TO A CERTAIN LEVEL OF SERVICES THAT, THAT THAT'S WHAT WE WE'RE REALLY WANTING TO DO, UH, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, UH, TO BRING SECURITY BACK TO A LEVEL WHICH WE'RE GONNA START ATTACKING. UH, AND THEN THE CLEANING, WE'RE GONNA GET AN UPDATE ON THE NEW VENDOR, UH, IF THEY'RE IN PLACE, IN WHICH I DON'T THINK THEY'RE, UH, BUT IT WAS JUST, I THINK OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, WE'VE DONE, UH, SOME REALLY WONDERFUL THINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, UH, COMING IN, UH, HOT ON JANUARY AND ATTACKING, UH, UH, FRESH AGENDA WITH, UH, VIGOR AND CONTINUING THE GOOD WORK THAT WE DO. SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE CHURCH REPORT, AS EXCITING AS THAT WAS. UM, WELL, I WAS RUNNING THE AGENDA. THIS IS GONNA BE A VERY QUICK MEETING, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU GUYS. UM, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE BELMONT SHORE PARKING BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT AREA ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 18TH. UH, ANY MOTION PLEASE? MOTION SECOND. UH, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? UH, ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. AYE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I TWO RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE LONG BEACH PUBLIC WORKS FINANCIAL REPORT, DISCUSSING REVENUES DURING THE PERIOD ENDING SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2025. AND THAT'S FOUND ON PAGE EIGHT P, PAGE EIGHT. MOTION PLEASE. MOTION. AND A SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. AND WE'LL DO THE REPORT. OKAY. SO IF EVERYONE COULD REFER TO PAGE EIGHT TITLED THE BELMONT SHORE PARKING METER FUND SUMMARY. UM, FOR SEPTEMBER, 2025, WE ARE AT, UH, TOTAL REVENUES FOR SEPTEMBER WAS $99,235 AND 28 CENTS. THAT IS UP 6% COMPARED TO LAST FISCAL YEAR. FOR THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER YEAR TO DATE FOR THE ENTIRE FISCAL YEAR, REVENUE WAS UP 12% VERSUS LAST FISCAL YEAR. AND SO THAT BRINGS OUR TOTAL YEAR TO DATE ACTUAL REVENUE AT 1,299,761 AND 68 CENTS. WE HAD BUDGETED FOR, WE HAD BUDGETED TO RECEIVE ABOUT 1.3 MILLION IN REVENUE, AND WE GOT AS CLOSE AS WE COULD TO GETTING TO IT. SO, WHICH IS A, WHICH IS GOOD. WE GOT VERY, VERY CLOSE THIS YEAR. UM, I WOULD LIKE EVERYONE TO REFER TO PAGE NINE, THE NEXT PAGE. WELL, REAL QUICK, UH, I HATE TO INTERRUPT, BUT BEFORE WE GO PAST THAT, UH, THAT SIGNIFICANT NUMBER, SURE. UH, WE WERE RATHER CONCERNED BECAUSE WE WERE STARING AT THE DEFICIT FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF QUARTERS. UH, SO WE CAN ATTRIBUTE THAT, UH, MAKING UP THAT DELTA TO THE INCREASE OF THE LEADER. NO, UM, DO NOT, I WOULDN'T USE THE FUND BALANCE ON THIS PAGE AS A, AS A TRUE FUND BALANCE, BECAUSE NOT ALL OF THE EXPENSES HAVE HIT. OKAY. UM, WE STILL ARE FINISHING OUR YEAR END. THERE ARE THINGS LIKE BANK SERVICE FEES, THE THINGS LIKE INTERDEPARTMENTAL, UM, EXPENSES THAT HAVEN'T POSTED YET. SO THE REVENUES ARE ACCURATE. IT'S THE EXPENSES THAT AREN'T ACCURATE YET UNTIL WE CLOSE THE FISCAL YEAR END IS, IS OCTOBER. IT IS SEPTEMBER 30TH. SEPTEMBER 30TH, YES. SO WE'RE PAST IT NOW. WE'RE, YES. WE'RE SWEEPING UP THE LITTLE BITS AND PIECES. YES. UM, AND THAT, THAT DEFICIT CARRIES THROUGH, OBVIOUSLY, TO THE NEXT YEAR. YES. AND WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ERODE THAT. YEAH, EXACTLY. UM, [00:05:01] PAGE NINE. WE'LL GIVE YOU A BETTER, UH, GIVE YOU A BETTER ESTIMATE ON WHERE WE ARE FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR. SO FOR, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FY 2025 COLUMN, OUR REVENUES ARE 1.2, UH, ONE 1,299,761. UM, WE HAVE OUR EXPENDITURES AT THE BOTTOM. THESE ARE THE EXPENDITURES THAT I FORESEE US, UM, EX, YOU KNOW, UH, INCURRING. THESE AREN'T THE 100% AC ACCURATE NUMBERS BECAUSE WE'RE STILL COMING IN. THERE'S A, THESE ARE, SOME OF THESE ARE ESTIMATES, BUT WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA COME JANUARY. BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GONNA BE HITTING, UH, $155,000, UM, UH, NET LOSS FOR, FOR THE FUND, PUTTING US AT AN END OF THE YEAR FUND BALANCE OF 198,702. SO WE'LL ROUGHLY ABOUT, WE'LL ROUGHLY END THE YEAR WITH ABOUT 200,000 IN OUR FUND. AND I WOULD LIKE EVERY, UH, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT ON OCTOBER 1ST, WE HAD PAID OUR BOND PAYMENT, WHICH WAS $200,000. AND SO THAT PUTS US AT ABOUT ZERO AT A FUND BALANCE. HOWEVER, STARTING OCTOBER IS THE NEW RATE INCREASE. SO THE NEW RATE INCREASE IS $3 AN HOUR. THAT'S GOING TO, UM, HELP BRING OUR FUND BALANCE BACK TO A, TO A HEALTHY PORTION. AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT IN JANUARY WHEN WE HAVE THE YEAR END NUMBERS. WE'RE ALREADY AT THE 2020 SECOND, THIRD DAY OF MONTH. AND, UH, AS WE WERE SPEAKING ABOUT, THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY PUSHBACK ON THAT. BUT THAT, THAT, THAT REVENUE HAS TICKED UP. MM-HMM . AND WE'LL CONTINUE. YEAH, YEAH. WE'LL SEE, WE'LL SEE AN INCREASE IN REVENUE BASED ON THE CHANGE OF THE, OF THE RATE INCREASE. AND WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE, I THINK BY JANUARY WE'LL HAVE AN ACCURATE, UH, IDEA OF WHAT OUR FUND BALANCE IS, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE, BASED ON THE LA, BASED ON OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER'S REVENUE, WHAT WE'RE GONNA LOOK LIKE FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR. THAT'S GONNA GIVE US A GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, PROJECT THE REST OF THE YEAR GOING. BUT I SEE US, UM, I SEE US HAVING A HEALTHIER FUND BALANCE BY, BY FEBRUARY PROBABLY. BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE AT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT A LOW SPOT IN TERMS OF OUR FUND BALANCE. BUT COME FEBRUARY WITH THE NEW RATE INCREASE, WILL, WILL LOOK A LOT BETTER. I DON'T WORRY FOR ONE MINUTE THAT THE BILLS WON'T BE PAID. THE BILLS WILL BE PAID. LUCKILY WE GET THE, YOU KNOW, LUCKILY THE WHEELS WILL STILL BE TURNING BY THE TIME, YOU KNOW, AM I RIGHT THEN IN UNDERSTANDING THEN THAT, UH, THAT BOND, UH, PAYMENT IS IN THE LAST FISCAL YEAR? NOT IN THE, THE BOND, THE OCTOBER ONE, THE OCTOBER PAYMENT IS FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR. SO FOR FY 26. SO OCTOBER FOR 26TH. YEAH. THIS IS FOR OCTOBER 26TH. SO WE WON'T HAVE TO PAY THAT UNTIL, AGAIN, UNTIL NEXT, NEXT YEAR. YEAH. GOT IT. AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH FISCAL YEAR, WHICH IS OCTOBER 1ST, THAT'S WHEN WE MAKE THAT PAYMENT. OKAY. SO THAT'S IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, WHICH IS BASICALLY OFFSETTING MM-HMM . THAT, SO THAT 200, THAT NET, THAT 200,000 ON THE FY 25 LINE IS FROM LAST YEAR. MM-HMM . GOT IT. GOT IT. AND SO ONCE, SO WE'RE ENDING, WE'RE ENDING WITH ABOUT 200,000, BUT THEN, AND THIS IS AS OF NINE 30, SO TEN ONE, BOOM, WE GOT THAT BIG BILL. SO, SO I WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS, UH, LINE FOR LINE REAL QUICK. NOT, NOT GRANULAR, BUT FROM AN ALTITUDE. UH, AND THEN BEFORE I SAY THAT WE HAVE A BETTER BOND RATING THAN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA COMMISSION DOES, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT. UM, SO GOING ON THE LARGEST INCREASE IN SECURE, UH, CLEANING SERVICES, UH, FROM 24 TO 25, UM, WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALMOST THREE X. UM, AND THAT, THAT'S EVEN BEFORE WE SWITCHED VENDORS. SO THAT WAS BECAUSE WE WERE ON A NON-CONTRACT AND WE WERE DOING A LOT OF, OF PER DIEMS AND, AND MONTHLY INCREASES. MM-HMM . UH, SO THAT EVEN THAT 4 37 IS STILL BEING UNDER WHAT, UH, THE NEW EXPOSURE IS GONNA BE. IS THAT CORRECT? RIGHT. NOT BY MUCH THOUGH. YEAH. IT'S 4 37 AND WE'RE ESTIMATED TO BE AT FOUR 50. AND WHEN DID, DO YOU KNOW NOW WHEN THAT'S GONNA START? FOR SURE. IT'S GOING TO START IN DECEMBER. DECEMBER ONE, DECEMBER ONE. WE ARE GOING TO COUNSEL IN TWO WEEKS, AND THAT WILL DICTATE WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN DO A DECEMBER ONE DATE. OKAY. OKAY. UM, PRESSURE WASHING, UH, [00:10:01] TRASH CAN REPLACEMENT. TRASH CAN REPLACEMENT WAS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER. UM, AND IS THAT, I'M REMINDING MYSELF, BECAUSE WE OPTED NOT TO DO THE HIGH END BELLS AND WHISTLE UNITS, WE WENT TO THE MORE BASIC UNITS. NO, THAT IS BECAUSE WE HAD, UM, BECAUSE WE HAD SUCH AN INCREASE IN CLEANING SERVICES, WE HAD TO REDUCE THE TRASH CAN REPLACEMENT. SO WE REALLY ONLY, SO WE NEED TO REPLACE, WHICH IS HAPPEN. WE NEED TO REPLACE MORE TRASH CANS. WE JUST, WE JUST HAVEN'T YET. WE'VE ONLY, UH, FOR THIS LAST FISCAL YEAR, WE'VE ONLY REPLACED TWO BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE COULD AFFORD AT THE TIME. WE, WE CHOSE. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT GOING IN ANOTHER DIRECTION. YEAH. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, YEAH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING IN ANOTHER DIRECTION. WE'RE MOVING AWAY. WE, LAST MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT, WE WERE GONNA MOVE AWAY FROM BIG BELLIES, AND WE'RE GONNA TRY AND FIND SOMETHING THAT IS BOTH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, HEAVY SO THAT IT DOESN'T FALL, THINGS DON'T FALL OVER, AND, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO MAINTAIN AND, UH, EASIER TO GET LESS PARTS. SO I'M CURRENTLY WORKING WITH HEATHER AT THE BSBA TO TRY AND FIND SOMETHING THAT WILL WORK WITH US. WE CURRENTLY HAVE ABOUT NINE, NINE IN THE BIG BELLIES THAT ARE EITHER DAMAGED OR SHOULD BE REPLACED. SO, UM, ONCE WE ARE NARROWED DOWN A TRASH CAN THAT WE FIND SUITABLE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO REPLACE THOSE NINE THIS YEAR. AND WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY PUSHBACK FROM PUBLIC WORKS ON THAT, ON REPLACING BIG BELLIES? NO. NO. AND WILL THEY BE, WILL THESE UNITS BE ABSORBED IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY? THE BIG BELLIES, THE CURRENT BIG BELLY'S THAT WE'RE GONNA GET RID OF? YOU MEAN IF WE, IF WE REPLACE, WILL THEY BE ABSORBED IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY? WELL, THEY'RE DAMAGED OR DAMAGED AND HAVE OTHER PARTS. I'M NOT SURE IF OKAY. I'LL NEED TO LOOK INTO THAT, THAT, AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. I'M NOT SURE. I'M JUST ASKING. YEAH, I'M SO FAR I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, BUT YEAH, WE, WE WILL, WE'LL KNOW WHEN WE START TO REPLACE IT. ARE YOU ASKING THAT FOR, THE REASON WHY I'M THINKING IS THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME CREDIT THAT WOULD GO NO, I'M WONDERING IF, IF WE GET AGGRESSIVE AND JUST MORE AGGRESSIVELY ELIMINATE BIG BELLIES, THE ONES THAT ARE IN BETTER SHAPE, WOULD THEY BE, UH, UTILIZED IN OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY CAN TAKE ONERY. IT'S JUST GOING THROUGH THIS, IT SEEMS LIKE THE, THE BIGGEST CHANGE, UH, THAT WE'VE SEEN ON THIS SHEET IS IN, UH, THE CLEANING SERVICES. MM-HMM . UH, AND THEN THE BIG BUILDING EXPOSURE WENT DOWN. UM, BUT, AND THEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEW YEAR, UH, IN KEEPING WITH OUR PHILOSOPHY, WE WOULD WANT TO INCREASE SECURITY, UM, BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE, UH, A PUBLIC WANT AND A AND A, UH, OPERATOR WANT, AND A STAKEHOLDER WANT, UH, FOR ANYTHING ELSE. SO, UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ESPECIALLY, OKAY, YOU WANNA CONTINUE WITH THIS OR WE'RE EXHAUSTED? I, I THINK THAT'S IT. UNLESS ANYONE HAS ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS WE'RE, WE CAN GET TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION, PLEASE. OR MAYBE IT'S MORE OF A COMMENT, UM, ON, SO WE'RE EXPECTING WHAT PERCENTAGE INCREASE? LIKE MAYBE GOING UP TO CLOSER TO 90,000. 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S AROUND 77,000 IN REVENUE, SAY IN SEPTEMBER, RIGHT? SO ARE WE THINKING WE'LL HAVE MAYBE 300,005 JANUARY, FEBRUARY IN THE ACCOUNT? I MEAN, IS THAT THE PROJECTION? THE, WELL, I WANT TO USE OCTOBER. UM, I WANNA USE OCTOBER'S REVENUE AS A WAY TO GAUGE, UM, WHAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS YEAR AND LAST YEAR WAS BASED ON THE NEW RATE INCREASE. AND I WANT TO USE THAT AS A WAY TO, LIKE, AS A WAY TO MEASURE WHAT OUR FUND'S GONNA LOOK LIKE. UM, WE'LL GO DARK IN DEC, WE'LL GO DARK IN DECEMBER, AND THEN COME JANUARY WE'LL HAVE THE DECEMBER AND NOVEMBER AND OCTOBER NUMBERS. AND THOSE WILL GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE, WHAT OUR FUND BALANCES. OUR FUND BALANCE WILL INCREASE. IT WILL, IT WILL GROW FROM NOW UNTIL, UNTIL JANUARY. BUT, UM, HOW MUCH IT WILL GROW? I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH, I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DATA TO REALLY MAKE AN ACCURATE PREDICTION, BUT WE WILL, WE WILL . OKAY. WE, UH, ON ITEM TWO, WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT ON, UH, ITEM TWO OF THE AGENDA. OKAY. UH, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. UH, ITEM THREE, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE THE BATTLE ALONG THESE TRANSIT EMPLOYEE BUS PASS PROGRAM STATUS FOR SEPTEMBER, 2025, UH, FOUND ON FOLLOWING PAGE, UH, [00:15:01] RYAN. OH, DO WE MOTION TO HEAR? OH, YES. MOTION. I, AND SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. COURT. SO FOR THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER, OUR TOTAL BOARDINGS WERE 6,179 BOARDINGS. THAT SAME TIME LAST YEAR WE HAD 4,948 BOARDINGS. SO ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 1,001, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE OVER 1200 MORE THAN WHAT WE HAD LAST YEAR, WHICH IS GREAT. IN TERMS OF RIDERSHIP. THIS YEAR, THIS SEPTEMBER, WE HAD 197 RIDERS, AND WE HAD, UH, THAT IS AN INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR. LAST YEAR WE HAD 154, SO WE ARE STILL TRENDING UPWARD FOR IN BOARDINGS AND RIDERSHIP FOR SEPTEMBER. AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD THAT WE CHANGED THE TABLE TO INCLUDE THE BELMONT ATHLETIC CLUB ONLY ONE TIME. OH GOD. SO JEFF, YOU ARE NOW ON THE TOP 10 BUSINESSES BY BOARDINGS IN THE MONT AREA. CONGRATULATIONS. YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU KNOW, IT'S THE FIRST THING I LOOKED AT, RIGHT? ? UM, JUST GOING THROUGH, UH, WE, UH, THE NUMBERS, EVERYTHING'S SCREAMING OUT. IS, IS HOLY GRAIL MET YOU THREE TIMES HERE? OH, NO. OH, NO. SEE AT THE BOTTOM? TWO TIMES. UM, OH, HOLY GRAIL, HOLY GRAIL, AND HOLY GRAIL DONUT. YEAH. ALRIGHT, WE'LL WORK ON THAT. , I'LL CONTACT, I'LL CONTACT LONG BEACH TRANSIT AND SEE, UH OH. SEE IF WE CAN CHANGE EYE. RIGHT. THAT PAIN. ME WELL. AWESOME. ANY, UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, OBSERVATIONS ON THE BUS PASS PROGRAM? WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE BUS PASS PROGRAM. AGENDA THREE. YES, SIR, PLEASE. HI, BRIAN COCHRAN ASSOCIATION REPEATING THIS UNTIL SOMETHING GETS CHANGED ABOUT IT, THE STATUS IS MEANINGLESS WITHOUT A TOTAL BODY OF ESTIMATION OF WHO'S WORKING ON SECOND STREET. THE PROPORTIONS OF THAT I'VE ASKED A HUNDRED TIMES ON, I'VE ASKED FOR DOZENS OF TIMES. SO UNTIL THAT'S MEANINGFUL AND ADDITIVE TO THIS, THIS REPORT IS ALMOST MEANINGLESS. BUT I WANTED ALSO TO FLAG THAT, UH, TWO ISSUES, UH, THAT CLEARLY FLAG ERRORS AND, AND PROBLEMATIC REPORTING ON THIS RUBIOS, WHICH HASN'T EXISTED FOR MONTHS NOW, IS LISTED HAVING 26 BOARDINGS. SO SOME GHOST WRITER FROM A BUSINESS THAT NO LONGER EXISTS IN THE MIX AND THEN GRILL 'EM ALL THE LAST I COUNTY. IT'S NOT ON SECOND WORK FROM SHORE. SO HOW THAT GOT MOVED IN THE PROGRAM, HOW BEING COUNTED AS PART OF THE DATA SUGGESTS SOMETHING CLOSETED IN. SO MY CLAUSES ARE NOTED REPEATEDLY, AND THE COMMUNITY WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THIS BE MADE IN A MORE MEANINGFUL SENSE GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, MY TAKEAWAY FROM THAT IS CAN WE LOOK INTO RUBIO'S? IF, IF IT'S, UH, IF IT'S NOT FACTUAL, WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN GET A CORRECTION FOR THAT AS BEST AS POSSIBLE. UM, APPRECIATE THAT. ANY OTHER COMMENT ON ITEM THREE? SO, UM, YEAH, NO, THAT'S, UH, FOLLOW UP ON THAT. THIS, THIS DOES, I, IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS, UH, DONE, UH, ALPHABETICALLY BY EMPLOYER NAME, BUT THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT ARE OUT OF, OF, UH, ALPHABETICAL ORDER, SO I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT IS. AND THIS IS A SPREADSHEET I ONLINE. I THINK IT'S, IT'S, I THINK AN AUDIT IS MORE THAT WE CAN JUST ASK LONGEST TRANSIT TO WE OKAY. AND VERIFY. I THINK AT THIS POINT, IT'S REASONABLE TASK FOR LINE BY LINE, GIVEN THE ERRORS THAT WE SEE. YEAH, NO, THAT'S, I THINK THAT IS ENTIRELY APPROPRIATE. UM, BECAUSE YEAH, I MEAN, IF THERE ARE, ARE YOU BUSINESSES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN IN BUSINESS AGREE, SHOWING UP ON THIS WITH NUMBERS THAT'S NOT GOING OUT? AGREE COMPLETELY. OKAY. UM, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? PROCEDURE REPORT. AYE. AYE. THANK YOU. ITEM FOUR, RECOMMENDATION [00:20:01] TO RECEIVE FILE STATUS UPDATES ON CONSERVATION FOR THE LONG BEACH WORK IN BELMONT SHORE AREA, INCLUDING RESPONSES TO REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE FOR SEPTEMBER 25. GOOD MORNING. MOTION TO, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A MOTION. PLEASE PROCEED. MOTION TO PROCEED. AND A SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. HOW ARE YOU, SIR? I'M NOT BAD. I JUST FLEW IN LAST NIGHT. YOUR TIRED? OH, YEAH. TRIP TO OAKLAND AND TO SANTA ROSA. WE HAD A MISS RECYCLING CONFERENCE MONDAY PLACED. WHAT DID YOU WORK KIND OF LINE YOU LIKE FEW THINGS. , UM, REGARDING THE SHORE, UM, ANGELICA PROBABLY HAD THE DETAIL DETAILED REPORT, BUT I KNOW THE MAJOR THING THAT WE DID ACCOMPLISH WAS WE REMOVED THE BIG BELLY NEAR, UM, CRO. AND OF THE SECOND, THE ONE THAT WERE, WE WERE, NOBODY WAS ABLE TO OPEN COMPLETELY AND BE CONSTANTLY OVERFILLED. SO HE SENT THE TEAM OUT THERE TO MOVE IT COMPLETELY. SO, DONE. UM, IF IT WAS REMOVED, WAS IT REPLACED? UH, NO. NOT AS THAT. OKAY. OKAY. SO, ALL RIGHT. AND , UH, WHEN YOU'RE READY. UH, WE, UH, OUR USUAL ARE SWEEPING THE STREETS, UH, OR THE SIDEWALKS, I MEAN, ON THE STREETS. UM, AND WE ARE EMPTYING THE BIG BELLIES. UH, WE ARE LEANING AND DUSTING OFF THE BIG BELLIES. AND, UH, WE ALSO DO COMEDIANS. AND I THINK IT IS MOSTLY BUSINESS AS USUAL. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY REPORTS ABOUT BRANCHES THIS MONTH. DUNNO, YOU HAVE THE GRAFFITI, THE GRAFFITI HAS BEEN, HAS BEEN A LITTLE LOWER THAN WHAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING, SO THE GRAFFITI HASN'T BEEN TOO, TOO MUCH OF AN ISSUE. UM, BUT WE DID SPOT A FEW THINGS THIS MORNING THAT THE CREW IS DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW. SO OTHER THAN THAT, REALLY NO BULKY ITEMS THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING ON OUR END, UM, WHILE THE CREW'S GOING THROUGH THE ALLEYS RIGHT NOW. UM, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO TIDY EVERYTHING UP AS MUCH AS WE CAN DURING THE TIME THAT WE HAVE LEFT. SO, UM, BY ANY MEANS, IF, IF ANYBODY SEES ANYTHING OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, MY EMAIL, HAVE HER EMAIL, JUST PLEASE REACH OUT TO US. WELL, I, I, THIS, I HATE TO, TO APPROACH THIS, BUT IT WAS IN THE PUBLIC SPACE AND IT GOT QUITE A BIT OF ATTENTION. AND IT WAS RELATIVE TO, UH, FECES ON THE SIDEWALKS AND THE, THE COMMENTS THAT WERE ON THE, THE BELMONT SHORE, UH, THE WHATSAPP. UH, AND THE ONLY REASON I MENTIONED THIS IS IT'S IF IT, THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF ATTENTION TO IT. SO I THINK THE CONVERSATION IS WARRANTED. UM, BUT IT WAS IN THE DIRECTION MORE OF WHAT THE COMMENTS OF HUMAN PIECES RATHER THAN A DOG. SO IS IS THERE, IF WE TALK ABOUT IT HERE AND WE LEARN THAT, UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ON YOUR RADAR, UH, I KNOW THAT THAT WILL BE LET OUT, UH, TO THE PUBLIC. UH, SO AT LEAST WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON THE PROP AND SEE IF IT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING WE NEED TO THROW MORE, MORE AFTER THAT. SO YOU WANNA COMMENT ON THAT? IF IT IS, NEED A PROBLEM OR IT'S NOT, UM, THAT RUNS ACROSS NOT, I, I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT'S NOT A FREQUENT ISSUE, BUT EVERY SO OFTEN IT IS SITE, UNFORTUNATELY, UH, IT IS A, IT IS A RARE THING, BUT IT DOES HAPPEN. OKAY. BUT IT'S NOT, YEAH, I, I FEEL BAD EVEN BRINGING IT UP, BUT BECAUSE IT WAS SO, UH, PREVALENT AND WHEN WE GET INTO PUBLIC COMMENT, PERHAPS, UH, HEATHER WILL, WILL SPEAK TO IT. UM, SO I, I I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOTHING THAT WE'RE MISSING OR WE NEED TO ATTEND TO EVEN STRONGER THAN WE DO WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT YOU GUYS DO, WHICH IS, IS GREAT. UM, I THINK WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS WE'RE NOT IGNORING IT AND IT'S NOT A, UH, A DAILY THROBBING PROBLEM. AND YOU'RE SAYING IT'S NOT, AND WE DO NOT IGNORE IT. AND THAT'S THE TAKEAWAY. MM-HMM . OKAY. I'M NOT TRYING TO STEER YOU, BUT, UH, ANYTHING ELSE ON HERE? JUST THIS TIME WAS NOTICEABLE, RIGHT? ? YEAH. OKAY. UM, THE BIG GUYS, I THINK THEY'RE THE SAME. THERE'S LIKE A FEW THAT ARE HAVING THE SAME ISSUES. UM, [00:25:02] AND, UH, SOMETHING THAT CAME UP WAS THAT THE CONCRETE ONES, I THINK THERE WAS PROBABLY LIKE A FIRE IN LIKE, MAYBE ONE OR TWO OF THEM. SO THE BOTTOM WAS LIKE MELTED. UM, SO A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN SOME OF THE LIDS ARE MISSING, BUT THAT'S NOT AS MUCH OF AN ISSUE. YES. OKAY. UM, SPEAKING FOR DEAN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE FOR THE, THE YEARS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING IT. IT'S GONNA BE STARTING TO SEE YOU GO. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT WE'VE HAD OUT HERE. ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD REALLY APPRECIATES YOUR SERVICE COMMISSIONER, ANYTHING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. PROGRAM. IT'S GREAT. IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE. UM, OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM, THE AGENDA. UH, HEATHER, COULD YOU SPEAK TO THE WHAT? THE, THE, JUST THAT WE ATTENDED TO IT. AND YOU THINK THAT'S, UH, I MEAN, I'M NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT I'M ASKING. HAVE WE DONE THE RIGHT THING AND DETERMINING THAT IT'S NOT ARO PROBLEM? UM, AS WE HAVE READ AND HEARD FROM A LOT OF MEMBERS, UH, OF THE BSBA ALSO, BUT, UH, IS THAT, DO YOU THINK THAT'S OKAY? I MEAN, POOP AND THIS KIND OF STUFF IS A REAL PROBLEM. IT'S, IT IS A PROBLEM, BUT THEY'RE ON THE SIDEWALKS AND CONSERVATION CORPS, UNLESS I'M MISTAKEN, THEY, THEY DON'T CARRY WATER AND IT'S NOT THEIR CONTRACT TO MOVE, REMOVE HAZARDOUS WASTE. SO IT IS JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE TO STEP UP AND CLEAN THE MESS THEMSELVES, UNFORTUNATELY, IN FRONT OF THEIR BUSINESS. AND I'VE, YOU KNOW, BEEN TRYING TO GET, REMIND PEOPLE THAT UNFORTUNATELY, IF IT WAS IN FRONT OF YOUR HOME, IF KNOW, YOU JUST HAVE TO DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO. RIGHT. WE DON'T HAVE, BESIDES CONSERVATION CORPS, WE DON'T HAVE OUR OWN JANITORIAL. THAT'S OUR JANITORIAL. OKAY. AND THINGS HAPPEN AFTER THEY'RE GONE, AND THEN IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT 24 HOURS. OKAY. AWESOME. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE IT OUT THERE TO GIVE IT OVER RECORD THAT YOU DISCUSS IT. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS APPLIES. THE CLEAN TEAM DOES THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE CALL, IF WE DID CALL THE CLEAN TEAM, WOULD THEY COME OUT FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? IF YOU CALL THE CLEAN TEAM, THEY, THERE WOULD BE A RESPONSE. UM, I'M NOT SURE IF IT WOULD BE RIGHT THEN AND THERE, BUT YEAH, YOU CAN EITHER DO THAT OR USE THE, BUT IT'S NOT IN THEIR CONTRACT TO REMOVE FOOD. YEAH, NO. THE, THE CITY, CLEAN CITY, I MEAN, THERE MAY, THERE MAY BE A DELAY. IT MIGHT NOT BE AS FAST AS YOU WANTED. COME, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAD PROBLEMS IN OUR ALLEY, THEY, AND THERE'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, SOME ISSUE, UM, THEY WERE PRETTY RESPONSIVE, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING. I'M SURE IT DEPENDS ON DAY AND TIME AND ALL OF THAT. MM-HMM . BUT THE CLEAN TEAM, I MEAN, THEY HAVE, I DON'T KNOW, SEVERAL TRUCKS, DON'T THEY? OR DO THEY ONLY HAVE ONE? I THEY HAVE A COUPLE TRUCKS. THEY HAVE A COUPLE TRUCKS. IT'D BE EASIER TO USE THE LONG BEACH GO UP AS WELL TO REPORT THAT. SO THAT WAY THE CLEAN TEAM CAN BE NOTIFIED AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. 'CAUSE THEY HAVE AN APP, THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEY GET UP TO DATE NOTIFICATIONS ON WHERE THEY GO. I THINK IT'S WORTH TRYING. I MEAN, AGAIN, IT'S ON EVERYONE TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE IF YOU SEE IT, YOU NEED TO REPORT IT. AND THEY, EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, WE MAKE OUR BEST EFFORT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS ALL THE INFORMATION GO ALONG BEACH. BUT PEOPLE MIGHT NOT KNOW THAT THERE IS, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GONNA HAPPEN QUICKLY. OKAY. UM, WE HAVE MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? UH, ALL IN FAVOR, A, A, UH, I FIVE RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE A FINAL DISCUSSION REGARDING AFTER HOUR ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING NOISE AND SAFETY AT CITY OF PARKING LOTS. UH, IN THE MILLMONT SHORE. WE'VE, WE STARTED THIS CONVERSATION, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, UH, RELATIVE, THIS IS, THIS FALLS UNDER THE SECURITY, UH, UMBRELLA AS WELL. UH, WHAT WE CAN DO TO, UH, FURTHER MITIGATE SOME OF THE LATE NIGHT ACTIVITIES THAT OCCUR IN THE PARKING LOTS. UM, AND THE, I WANT TO PREFACE THAT, THAT THIS ACTIVITY, UH, ISN'T SOLELY BAR RELATED. UM, I'D SAY IT'S LARGELY BAR RELATED, BUT IT'S NOT SOLELY BAR RELATED BECAUSE PEOPLE USE THOSE PARKING LOTS, UH, CLEARLY TO GO TO RESTAURANTS. THEY GO TO VISIT, UH, PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES. UM, AND WE'RE FINDING OUT THAT LOTS OF PEOPLE COME THROUGH THE SHORE, UH, LATER AT NIGHT PARK AND GO AND AVAIL THEMSELVES OF FOOD VENDORS, UH, PEOPLE THAT ARE TRAVELING FROM DOWNTOWN OR PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING HOME FROM OTHER [00:30:01] CITIES. UH, AS THEY'RE COMING DOWN SECOND STREET, WHICH IS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE, UH, THEY STOP IN SHORT, THEY PARK IN THE PARKING LOTS AND THEY GET FOOD AND THEY GO BACK INTO FOOD IN THE PARKING LOTS AND, AND DRINK AND LISTEN TO THE RADIOS AND DO WHATEVER THEY DO. WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH, WITH, UH, PERHAPS A SOLUTION THAT CAN MITIGATE, UH, WE HAVE DISCUSSED, UH, NORTHBOUND EXIT OUT OF THE PARKING LOTS, UH, WHICH WOULD KEEP CARS FROM, UH, DUMPING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THEY WOULD EXIT IN THE ONTO SECOND STREET AND THEN MITIGATE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC DELAYS. UH, WE'VE ALSO DISCUSSED, UM, DYNAMIC PRICING IN THOSE PARKING LOTS, UH, AND RAISING THE PRICE TO A LEVEL THAT WOULD AFFORD AN ATTENDANT AND HAVING AN ATTENDANT PRESENT IN THOSE PARKING LOTS MIGHT MITIGATE SOME OF THAT. UH, WE'VE ALSO DISCUSSED CLOSING THOSE PARKING LOTS, UH, COUNCILWOMAN DUGGAN'S OFFICE, UH, AS ED, THAT IS A POTENTIAL AS WELL. UM, SO I, I JUST WANT TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION, UH, AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO IZE FOR JANUARY, IF WE WANT TO HAVE ANYBODY COME AND, AND HELP US, WE THROUGH THIS, UH, IN OUR PURSUIT OF A SOLUTION, UM, CLEARLY THE BEST SOLUTION WOULD BE, UH, LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, HAVING MORE, UH, PATROLS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HITTING THOSE PARKING LOTS REGULARLY. UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ADDITIONAL LIGHTING, UM, THAT WOULD BE ON FLOWING THE DIRECTION OF THE PARKING LOT. AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T IMPACT, UH, RESIDENTS NEGATIVELY THERE AS WELL. UH, SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WANT DISCUSS, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS FOR. SO, UH, WE'LL START WITH DID YOU GUYS, OH, MOTION, MOTION. WE, I'M SORRY. WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. THANK YOU. SO, YEAH, NO, JUST WE, WE KEEP MY MARKS AT THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS. UH, YOU KNOW, UH, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE NEIGHBORS, UM, WILL BE AFFECTED OR JUST INVOLVED IN THE DECISION, UNDERSTAND WHAT'S, WHAT'S HAPPENING, AND HAVE THEIR, THEIR INPUT BECAUSE THEY'RE THERE. IT BOTH BENEFITS THEM, BUT POTENTIALLY HAS A DOWNSIDE. UM, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSING THAT WITH THEM, SEEMS THAT THE ONE QUESTION I HAD IS HOW MANY, HOW MANY OF THE PARKING LOT ARE THERE ON SECOND WEEK? DO WE KNOW? SEVEN, SIX. SEVEN. SIX OR SEVEN. SIX OR SEVEN. OKAY. BUT THEY'RE MOSTLY ON, ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE STREET, BUT THERE IS, THERE'S ONE AT THE WELLS, UH, IN THE WELLS, UH, WELL FARGO, YEAH. AND THAT'S PARTLY PUBLIC AND PARTLY PRIVATE. THAT'S A SHARED. AND, UH, F AND M HAS A PRIVATE LOT. UH, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE ON THE, ON THE NORTH SIDE THAT I'M AWARE OF, UH, THAT IS PUBLIC. SO MOST ALL OF THEM OCCUR ON THE, ON THE SOUTH SIDE. OKAY. SO WE AT LEAST HAVE, YOU KNOW, LIKE A DEFINITE NUMBER OF WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, A REASONABLE NUMBER TO, TO ACTUALLY TRY ADDRESS THE ISSUE. I MEAN, WE, THIS COMMISSION CAN, CAN THROW MONEY AT IT IN THE DIRECTION OF THE LIGHTING, UH, IN THE DIRECTION OF SECURITY. WE HAVE LEARNED OVER SEVERAL MONTHS THAT, UM, UH, AHEAD OF PUBLIC SAFETY, WE ARE ASSET PROTECTION MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. OUR SECURITY IN THOSE PARKING LOTS, UH, IS DESIGNED TO PROTECT THE ASSETS, THE CITY ASSETS THAT ARE IN THOSE PARKING LOT, THE METERS, METER HEADS, UM, THE INFRASTRUCTURE. UM, SO THOSE ARE THE TWO DIRECTIONS THAT WE CAN, UH, JUSTIFY, UH, BUDGETING. UH, AND WE DON'T MAKE THE DECISION HERE. WE RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL. AND CITY COUNCIL MAKES THE DECISION. UM, AND THE PUBLIC IS ABSOLUTELY WELCOME TO COME HERE AND, UH, VOICE, UH, AN OPINION AND RAISE QUESTIONS. UH, BUT ULTIMATELY THE DECISION IS FOR CITY COUNCIL. SO BASED ON WHAT WE RECOMMEND, UH, UM, SO, UH, OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? NO. ALRIGHT, MR. COZA. UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO OBVIOUSLY HAVE A, AN INCREMENTAL PLAN IN PLACE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, UH, PROBABLY SOME OF THE MORE REASONABLE, LESS INVOLVED OPTIONS AND WORK OUR WAY UP. UM, WHICH JUST MAKES SENSE BECAUSE IF LIKE DOING THE LIGHTING ALL OF A SUDDEN MAKES A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE, ALL THOSE OTHER OPTIONS, I THINK JUST BECOME A MOOT POINT. AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THAT REVENUE CAN BE DIRECTED IN OTHER, OTHER PLACES. AND THE LIGHTING TO ME SOUNDS LIKE A LOGICAL START POINT, ONLY BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT ONE [00:35:01] EXAMPLE WITH, YOU KNOW, PANAMA JOE'S THAT SEEMS TO BE AT LEAST HELPING. UM, BUT THEN IF THE LIGHTING DOESN'T YIELD A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE, I THINK IT, IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE ALREADY HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE TO, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT STEP TWO IS. SO, AND MAYBE I THINK THAT LOOK AT WHAT STEP TWO SHOULD BE, AND THIS WAS, THIS WAS THE HOPE OF THE ITEM, UH, THAT WE COULD ZERO IN. AND I KNOW WE'VE GOT, UH, MORE COMMISSIONERS TO HERE. THE HOPE WAS TO ZERO IN ON AN ITEM THAT WE COULD START AT, AND THEN WE COULD ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY AGENDIZE FROM JANUARY, WE WOULD DISCUSS, UH, IMPLEMENTING, UH, RECOMMENDING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT, RECOMMENDING THAT, AND SAYING THAT WE HAVE THE BUDGET TO AFFORD THAT, UH, COMPONENT, UH, AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT IN JANUARY SO THAT HOPEFULLY BY FEBRUARY, UH, WE CAN HAVE LIGHTS, UH, INSTALLED. PERFECT. AND WE CAN GET IT TO CITY COUNCIL, UH, IN TIME, UM, UH, GIVEN WHERE THE THIRD, THAT'S GONNA BE TOUGH, BUT WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA DO OUR BEST THAT MAYBE ENCOUNTER ABOUT FEBRUARY, WE CAN HAVE CLIENTS INSTALLED. UM, SO ANYTHING ELSE? NO. OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONER CASTRO. THANK YOU. I, I WOULD AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES HERE. I, I THINK THAT, UH, LIGHTING IS, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT IT LAST TIME. I THINK LAD RIGHT? YOU START AT THE, THE BASIC ONE THAT WE THINK IS GOING TO WORK BEST WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF INTRUSION, HOPEFULLY, AND, YOU KNOW, AND COST. AND THEN YOU GO FROM THERE. AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S A BIT OF AN NOTE, BUT MAYBE I MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT, IS WHAT, WHAT THE COST WOULD BE IF WE WERE GOING TO START WITH ALL OF THE LOT, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE AGREED TO COMMEND IF WE DO, OR ARE WE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, PILOT, YOU KNOW, IS THE PROBLEM BIGGER ON THE SOUTH SIDE THAN THE NORTH? I DON'T, 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY THE POCKETS OF PROBLEMS ARE EITHER, I MEAN, I KNOW WHICH ONES HAVE BEEN FLAGGED FOR SURE. UM, BUT IT'S JUST INTERESTING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF STUDY I GUESS THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO DO BETWEEN NOW AND THEN IF POSSIBLE. YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S AN OBSERVATION OR WHATEVER WE WOULD DO, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE SOMEONE OUT THERE TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON ON SOME OF THOSE OTHER ONES WHERE WE HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION FOR THAT. UM, AND THEN, UH, WE SHOULD PROBABLY IN THE MEANTIME, IF WE CAN, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN ASK OF STAFF, IF WE CAN LOOK AT GETTING THE COSTS, MAYBE WE ALREADY KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THE COSTS, SO PER MONTH, UM, IN CASE THERE ARE BUDGET CONSTRAINTS, THEN WE'D HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, KNOW OUR, OUR SCOPE, UH, BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE WHAT, BASED ON WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN OUR BUDGET, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, UNTIL WE HAVE THE, THE FULL PROJECTION, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? I MEAN, IT IS LIKELY JUST A ONE TIME COST, OBVIOUSLY, BUT CAN WE ABSORB IT? OKAY. AWESOME. THANK, I WOULD VERY MUCH, I SAID THIS BEFORE AT OUR JANUARY MEETING, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOMEONE FROM PAM ON JARED COME TO TALK TO US ABOUT HOW THEY DID THIS, WHAT THEIR PROCESS WAS WITH THE NEIGHBORS, THE COST AND WHAT, WHAT'S WORKING AND WHAT IS IT. WE CAN REALLY GO FROM A TO Z PRETTY QUICK IF WE TALK TO THEM AND DIRECTLY TRUE. I MEAN, THEY'RE DOING IT. SO LET'S GO TO THEM. I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GONNA GET A LOT OF TRACTION PERSONALLY. AND THEN LET'S GO FOR IT. UM, AND WE'LL, WE'LL DECIDE IF WE WANT TO DO ONE, TWO LOTS, WE'LL GO FROM THERE. WE'VE GOTTA FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH IT COSTS, BUT I GO TO THEM AND ASK THEM TO COME. YEAH, THIS I THINK MIGHT BE THIS SIMPLISTIC THINKING HERE, BUT, UM, I MEAN, I LOOKED AT LIKE A FLOODLINE FROM MY FRONT YARD, LIKE 10 99 ON AMAZON, AND I'M REALLY WONDERING WHAT THE, WHAT THE ACTUAL COSTS OF THIS WOULD BE BECAUSE WITH LED LIGHTS, UM, WHICH TAKES METAL ELECTRICITY PRACTICALLY. UM, BUT ASSUMING THAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE, WHETHER THE, THE, UM, THE PROPERTY OWNER OR THE, THE CITY WOULD HAVE RESPONSIBILITY FOR PAYING FOR THE ELECTRICITY, BUT THAT'S NOT BE NOTHING. UM, FOR THESE THINGS, YOU'VE GOT LIMITED SPACES. UM, SO REALLY, YOU KNOW, IN PANAMA THOSE WOULD PROBABLY BE THE, THE BEST, UM, YOU KNOW, APPROACH HERE IS WHAT DID IT ACTUALLY COST YOU TO DO THIS? YOU KNOW, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, SIGNS ON THE, UH, ON THE, THE, THE SIDE OF THE WALL [00:40:01] WHERE RESIDENTS ARE SAYING, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, I ALWAYS WANT START COURTEOUS, BE COURTEOUS, BUT YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE SIGN APPROPRIATE SIGNS ARE. BUT I, I JUST DON'T SEE THAT BEING THAT, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT COST. UH, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING AND, AND WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE ZEROING IN ON IT. I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS, IS, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO IZE THIS ITEM FOR THE JANUARY MEETING. UH, IN THAT MOTION, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE, UH, A REPRESENTATIVE OF PUBLIC WORKS, UH, COME AND DISCUSS THE COST AND FEASIBILITY OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. AND I SAY PROJECT BECAUSE EVEN ADDING A FLOOD TYPE AND OUR RIGHTS OF WHAT HAPPENS WITHIN THE CITY END OF THIS PROJECT, UH, HAVE SOMEONE FROM PANAMA, JOEYS COME AND, UH, DISCUSS, UH, THEORETICS AND, UH, HAS IT BEEN SUCCESSFUL AND HASN'T THWARTED, UH, HAS IT HAD AN IMPACT? HAVE THEY HAD ANY COMPLAINTS TO RESIDENTS? UH, TO BE SURE WE WANT TO FACTOR ALL OF THAT IN, UH, TO OUR DISCUSSION. UM, I THINK WE SHOULD CALL THIS A PILOT LIGHTING RECOMMENDATION, UH, THAT WE RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE, UH, THAT NOTE FROM THE BEGINNING, UH, THAT IT IS, UH, TEMPORARY AT THE BEGINNING, IT'S A LEARNING CURVE. UH, IT'S A PILOT PROGRAM. UH, IT GIVES AN OPPORTUNITY WHILE IT'S IN PLACE, UH, TO STUDY IT. UH, AND ALL OF THAT WILL COME THROUGH IN, I, I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE TRY TO PUSH THIS, UH, AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. UM, BECAUSE IT, IT, I THINK WE ALL SEE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE, UM, BENEFICIAL, UH, TO THROW A LIGHT IN THOSE PARKING LOT. UH, THAT'LL THINK WE NEED A, THE SITTING HERE THEORIZING. I DON'T THINK WE NEED A MAJOR STUDY TO TELL US THAT, THAT WE KNOW WHAT LIFE DOES. UM, IT MAKES IT LESS COMFORTABLE TO DO THE THINGS THAT THEY DO IN THE DEPARTMENT. SO I THINK WE HAVE THE STRUCTURE FOR AN AGENDA ITEM IN JANUARY, SIR. AND, UM, FROM THAT, HOPEFULLY WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR CITY COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT. UH, AT THAT MEETING, WE GET IT POSTED. UH, CERTAINLY, UM, THE PUBLIC CAN WEIGH IN ON IT AND COME TO THE MEETING AND VOICE THEIR OPINION. UM, AND WE DON'T WANT TO INSERT ANY OF THAT PROCESS. UM, SO I, I, I LIKE WHERE THIS CONVERSATION WENT EXACTLY WHAT WE WANTED IT TO DO. UH, ANY OTHER CONVERSATION. AND CAN WE ASK, UH, PAMELA JONES TO LIKE, PROVIDE US SOMETHING IN BIN FOR THEIR BOSS? UH, I THINK THEY, THEY, THEY CAN, WE CAN MAKE THE REQUEST WHETHER THEY IS, WHETHER THEY ADHERE TO IT OR NOT. I DUNNO, DO THEY HAVE HAVE PUBLIC WORKS INVOLVED IN IT? WE FIND OUT. WE DON'T KNOW. OKAY. SO THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS. PUBLIC WORKS IS EVEN NECESSARY HERE. WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA FIND OUT. SO, 'CAUSE I, WE'LL, I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT WE WILL NEED PUBLIC WORKS BECAUSE IT IS USING PUBLIC FUNDS. WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PUT THEM ON THE BUSINESSES. WE'LL BE ABLE TO PUT THEM ALONG THE PARKING LOTS. OKAY. OUR, OUR JURISDICTION IS ONLY WITHIN THE PARKING LOTS, NOT HANGING OFF THE SIDE OF THE BACK BUSINESSES. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT PUBLIC, I THINK THAT'S WHAT PANAMA JOE'S ARE DOING. SO WE TECHNICALLY DON'T HAVE THE OPTION TO DO THAT. OKAY. SO, BUT I PRAY AS MINIMAL AS AS NECESSARY HERE. UM, 'CAUSE THIS IS NOT A HARD THING. NO. UM, IT'S HONESTLY NOT. AND IT HAS VALUE. SO WE'RE LOOKING INTO, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING INTO ADDING, WE'RE LOOKING INTO ADDING LIGHTING. ALL THE LIGHTS ARE OPERATIONAL AND WORKING EXCEPT FOR ONE LIGHT IN ONE LOT. UM, AND IT'S AN SCE LIGHT, SO IT'S UP TO SCE TO REPLACE THAT. MM-HMM . I'VE CONTACTED SCE AND PUT IN AN OUTAGE REPORT TO HAVE THEM REPLACE IT. UM, I CURRENTLY HAVEN'T HEARD ANY RESPONSE FROM 'EM YET, BUT THE, IT'S STARTED, THE PROCESS HAS STARTED. WE'RE WORKING WITH LIGHTING COMPANIES TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO ADD ADDITIONAL LIGHTING TO THOSE PARKING LOTS. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUOTES YET, BUT I HAVE, I HAVE LOOKING AT, UM, LIGHTING VENDORS WHO CAN COME OUT AND INVESTIGATE AND SEE AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. BUT AGAIN, I JUST WANNA LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT WE CAN ONLY DO IT IN THE PARKING LOTS. SO WHAT WE CAN DO IS DO SOMETHING ALONG, LIKE WE HAVE THOSE LIGHT, WE HAVE THOSE POLES THAT ALREADY HAVE LIGHTING MM-HMM . THINKING ABOUT WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS? CAN WE ADD TO THE, UH, EXISTING POLES TO ADD MORE LIGHTING IN THE LOWER AREAS SO THAT WAY IT CAN GO OUT. THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. AND WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS BETWEEN LIKE LED AND SOLAR AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REALIZING. THAT OF COURSE, YES. GIVEN THAT THAT PERSONALLY I OWN A BUILDING IN THE SHORE AND I REALIZED THAT I CAN PUT A LIGHT UP ON THE SIDE OF MY BUILDING, UH, ANYTIME I WANT. YEAH. AND JUST WAIT FOR THE FALLOUT. BUT GETTING [00:45:01] ALL OF THE BUILDING OWNERS TO ACT IN CONCERT IS WHERE THE, THE TRAIN KIND OF COMES OFF THE TRACK. YEAH. SO LOOKING AT IT AS THE SOLUTION, THE PARKING LOTS THEMSELVES OF HAVING THE CITY, UH, ADD THE APPROPRIATE LIGHTING, I THINK IS THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GOING IN THAT IT BECOMES NOT SO, UM, BECAUSE NOW HOW IT WORKS IS INVOLVED AND YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING AND I'D LIKE IT TO BE SIMPLE, BUT I KNOW BETTER . SO THAT'S WHY WE, THE DIRECTION I WAS JUST GOING SAY THAT CAN GO TO THAT, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD BE WILLING TO, TO PUT LIGHTING UP IF, IF THEY KNOW THERE'S A PROBLEM SOME PEOPLE DON'T HAVE. YEAH, I WOULD TOO. BUT WHY NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE ONES THAT WILL, AND YOU KNOW, WE CAN PROBABLY DO THAT AS A SIDE COMMITTEE TO TRY AND GET SOME OF THESE. YEAH. THAT SHOULD BE, THAT SHOULD BE SIMPLE. I RECOMMEND THAT SOMETHING AFTER WE DO THE LIGHTING INSTALL AND I TOTALLY, BECAUSE THEN WE CAN REALLY SEE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD, WE'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, VENDORS COME OUT AND TAKE A LOOK. THEY'LL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. WE'LL WE WILL BE ABLE TO INSTALL 'EM AND THEN ONCE WE INSTALL WE CAN SEE, HEY, MAYBE IT'S NOT ENOUGH, MAYBE IT'S ENOUGH. WE'LL SEE. BUT UM, YEAH, THAT IS REALLY THE ONLY THING THAT WE HAVE THE, THE CAPACITY TO CHANGE RIGHT NOW. SO WE'LL DO THAT. HAVE THE PEOPLE WHO DO, UM, PROPERTY. SURE. YOU KNOW, WE CAN MAYBE HARASS THE OTHER OWNERS, LIKE, HEY, LOOK AT WHAT, LOOK AT WHAT PANAMA JOSEPH IS DOING. HELP OUT ON YOUR OWN. AND I THINK PEOPLE WOULD, WOULD DO IT. YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. I, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I'M NOT THERE LATE AT NIGHT, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON REALLY, BUT I GET IT. I'M WILLING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. OKAY. ASK THE QUESTION. SURE, SURE. AND IT MAY OR MAY NOT APPLY, BUT WITH THE WHOLE VENDING, YOU KNOW, ISSUE BECAUSE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT, THAT'S PART OF THE ATTRACTION. DOESN'T THAT KIND OF WORK HAND IN HAND THOUGH? BECAUSE IF IT BRINGS MORE PEOPLE OUT, THE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T LICENSED, I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, POPPING UP. IS THAT PART OF THE ISSUE, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF JUST, YOU KNOW, WELL, NOT ONLY OUR STREET CLEANLINESS, BUT ALSO MORE PEOPLE GATHERING. IT'S ABSOLUTELY ADDING TO THE ACTIVITY, YES. ALL WE HAD AT THAT. OKAY. UH, FROM SAY 9 30, 10 O'CLOCK ON A FRIDAY, SATURDAY NIGHT SPECIFICALLY. BUT THIS IS HAPPENING, UH, ON SUNDAY AFTERNOONS AND EARLY SUNDAY EVENINGS. 'CAUSE THERE'S AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE TO VISIT THE DISTRICT AT THAT TIME AS WELL. UH, NOT AS MUCH ON THURSDAY NIGHT OR WEDNESDAY OR TUESDAY OR MONDAY, UH, BUT CERTAINLY STARTING WITH THE LOW LINE FRUIT, WHICH IS FRIDAY AND SATURDAY, UM, THE LATE NIGHT ACTIVITY. AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT JUST THE BARS THAT ARE DOING THIS. THERE'S A VARIETY OF, OF CIRCUMSTANCES THAT, AND IT'S JUST A VERY POPULAR PLACE TO GO, WHICH IS WONDERFUL. UH, SO WE NEED TO MAKE THE FOCUS OF PUBLICITY AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. AND ASSET SAFETY AS WELL. EXACTLY. UM, OKAY. WE HAVE, UH, UH, A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND. UH, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? YES, SIR. UH, BRIAN CORAN, I'M NOT SURE. UM, I FEEL LIKE I HAVEN'T OWNED THIS ON ME SINCE I'M THE SOLE REPRESENTATIVE, THE PRESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY HERE TODAY FOR ANY NUMBER OF REASONS. UH, I WANT TO FLAG ALSO THIS MEETING WAS RESCHEDULED FROM A PRIOR DATE THAT ALWAYS CREATES BURDEN FOR PEOPLE WHO ALREADY CAN'T MAKE THE REGULAR MEETINGS TYPICALLY. SO PLEASE DON'T ASSUME THAT THIS SMALL REPRESENTATION IS REFLECTIVE OF THE WHOLE INTEREST BECAUSE PEOPLE SIMPLY, THEY DON'T KNOW. I DO WANT TO FLAG A COUPLE THINGS. I THINK THE BODY OF PEOPLE HERE WOULD'VE SAID AS WELL, BUT ONE IS THE CONSIDERATION INSTEAD OF LIGHTING. AND, UH, THAT I WONDER IF CAMERAS AND PROMINENT SIGNAGE MIGHT BE MORE WARRANTED AS EFFECTIVELY LESS INTRUSIVE TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO ONE THAT HAS OVERSIGHT AND BY SIGHTING AND PROMINENTLY, AND HAVING ANYBODY TRACK THAT WOULD MAKE THE PEOPLE WHO WERE OSTENSIBLY BY THE PROTOCOL IN THE PARKING LOT TO BE AWARE OF THEIR ON CAMERA. AND THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES TO THAT AS OPPOSED TO JUST A THEY DETERMIN THAT MAY OR MAY NOT WORK. UH, THAT OF COURSE COMES WITH A NEED FOR OVERSIGHT AND THAT NEED FOR PRIVACY. SO THE CAMERAS WEREN'T INTRUDING ON PEOPLE'S PERSONAL SPACES AND THAT, UH, IT'S JUST THE PARKING LOT. BUT THAT IS A PUBLIC SPACE AND THAT DOES SEEM TO WARRANT THE CAMERA USE THAT WOULD POSSIBLY BE MORE EFFECTIVE. UM, I FIND IT PROBLEMATIC AND I THINK OTHERS WOULD DO AS WELL. CITING AS AN EXEMPLARY BODY THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO MODEL THINGS AFTER. THAT'S LIKE SAYING DOG SHOULD BE A MODEL FOR HOW TO MANAGE CROWD CONTROL. UM, [00:50:01] IT'S A QUESTIONABLE THING GIVEN ITS HISTORY AND IT'S PROMINENT USE OF, UH, PROMINENT, PROMINENT USE OF COMMUNITY STANDARDS THERE. SO I WOULD TAKE IT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT. THEY MAY HAVE A THING THAT YOU SEE AS A POSSIBILITY THERE, BUT I WOULD MAKE SURE IT'S FILTERED THROUGH A COMMUNITY SENSIBILITY, IT SOME OVERSIGHT RATHER THAN JUST ADOPTING WHAT THEY HAVE AND THAT THERE'S NO FEEDBACK OTHER THAN FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE BUSINESS OWNER. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WORKS, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO STEP OUTSIDE YOUR BUBBLE AND MAKE SURE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE BIGGER GOOD THERE. UM, I HAVE A FRUSTRATION THAT I THINK OTHERS MIGHT HAVE EXPRESSED THIS AS WELL. THERE SEEMS TO BE A GROUP THING, KAREN. I KEEP ENCOURAGING OUR NEWEST MEMBERS TO DO THEIR BEST TO BE OUTSIDE THE BOX AND THINK OUTSIDE OF THE GROUP THING. UM, TWO EXAMPLES TODAY IS THAT WE HAVE DAVID, WHO'S OSTENSIBLY IN THE SEAT REPRESENTING THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY WHO DIDN'T MENTION A RESIDENCE ONCE AND DID MENTION SOMETHING THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY RAISED ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS ABOUT LIGHTING BEING INTRUSIVE TO POTENTIAL, UH, RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA FOR SURE. AND THAT THIS DISPLACEMENT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE FROM A PARKING LOT IN PARK ON SIDE STREETS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T BE IN THE PARKING LOT, BUT THEY'LL STILL DO THESE SAME ACTIVITY IF THEY WANT TO. SO I'M DISAPPOINTED IN THAT. AND RYAN, I, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE, THE DA DOES THIS, BUT THERE'S A CONSTANT WE, WHICH SUGGESTS THAT YOU ARE PART OF THE ENTITY. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT BOUNDARY WORKS, BUT YOU ARE A PUBLIC SERVICE EMPLOYEE. I THINK YOU WORK FOR THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY RATHER THAN THIS BODY SPECIFICALLY. SO I, AGAIN, ENCOURAGE LESS OF THE GROUP THING THERE. AND UH, LASTLY I JUST WANT TO SAY UNTIL WE CAN TALK TO NEIGHBORS ABOUT THAT STUFF AND IF PANDOS HAS A PILOT PROGRAM, WE'RE ENCOURAGED BY THE POSSIBILITIES THERE. BUT YOU NEED TO TALK TO ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN THAT ADJACENT AREA TO SEE WHAT THEIR FEEDBACK IS AT THIS JUNCTURE. BECAUSE THEY MAY HAVE THOUGHTS, BUT THEY CAN'T COME TO THIS OR HAVEN'T BEEN ASKED BEFORE. SO BEFORE YOU ADOPT, YOU MOVE FORWARD IN A, UH, UH, A ZEALOUS MANNER. PLEASE PUT THE BRAKES ON WE CLOSELY STUFF AND MAKE SURE THINGS ARE POSTED. SOME PEOPLE CAN COME TO THESE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. UM, WE HAVE MOTION, WE HAVE SECOND. WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OKAY. UM, LASTLY, PRIOR TO ADJOURNMENT, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON MATTER, UH, AT THIS TIME. YES SIR. YES. UH, THANK YOU. AND, UH, BRIAN BEAUMONT, AGAIN, MONT ASSOCIATION AS WELL. UH, I'LL KEEP THIS BRIEF, BUT I WANT TO THANK THE CHAIR FOR, UH, SORT OF ACCIDENTALLY REMIND ME OF SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T REMEMBER THAT I WAS FRUSTRATED WITH, BUT NOW WE NEED TO COME BACK TO, WHICH IS THAT THE COMMENTS AT THE BEGINNING IN THE CHAIR'S MESSAGE SAID THERE WAS QUOTE, NO PUSHBACK ON THE METER RATE INCREASE. AND I REALLY WANT TO DIVE A LITTLE MORE DEEPLY INTO THAT BECAUSE IT'S DISINGENUOUS TO SAY THAT BECAUSE HEY, PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW. AND THAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED WITH THIS BODY. THOSE, THE MEETING OF SHELTER AROUND SO REGULARLY, THAT ATTENDANCE WASN'T MADE A POSSIBLE THERE, THERE WAS PUSHBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY AT THOSE MEETINGS WHEN WE HAD PEOPLE THERE. AND THEN IT WAS ROUTED INTO THE, UH, ANNUAL BUDGET FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. SO IN A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR BUDGET, IT WAS A TINY ITEM THAT IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY, AS DID SOME OF US, WE SAW ESSENTIALLY YOU WRITING A CHECKS TO YOURSELVES FOR $637,000 TO PAY FOR ALL THE COMMUNITY WANTED TO DO WITHOUT HAVING ANY OVERSIGHT ON IT. NO ONE WAS ABLE TO GO TO COUNCIL THAT NIGHT TO CONTEST THAT. BUT YOU ESSENTIALLY WROTE YOURSELF A CHECK TO COVER SECURITY, UH, TO COVER A NEW, UM, UH, CLEANUP STUFF AND TO DO SIGNAGE ALL AT ONE SINGLE SWOOP WITH THE RATE INCREASE. AND NO ONE HAD A CHANCE TO REMARK ON THAT. NO ONE WAS HERE TO DO IT. A FEW PEOPLE WERE HERE TO DO IT THEN AND THAT WOULD JUST PASS FEW COUNCIL BECAUSE IT'S KIND KIND OF PART OF THIS BIG BUNDLE OF THINGS. SO I WOULD, UH, ASK THAT COMMISSIONERS IN THE FUTURE OF ANY RATE INCREASES THAT THOSE NOT JUST BE BUNDLED INTO THE GIANT CITY BUDGET WHERE THERE'S NO POSSIBLE OVERSIGHT OF IT AND NO POSSIBLE, UH, INPUT MECHANISMS OF IT. I GUARANTEE I LOOK CLOSELY AT THAT BUDGET AND OTHERS DID TOO. BUT THE MECHANISMS BY WHICH TO COMMENT ON THAT WERE, UH, NEGLIGIBLE AT BEST. AND, UH, BUT THE BUDGET PASSED 'CAUSE THEY, THEY'RE FOCUSED ON THE BIG PICTURE. NOT, NOT WHY I KNOW IT SEEMS LARGE FOR THIS BODY, BUT VERY SMALL TO THE CITY OVERALL. SO, UM, KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO HAVE, UH, IS ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT, WE KNOW THERE'S A NEW CONTRACT GOING ON FOR BID ON SECURITY SERVICES. WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY, UH, REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL OR ANY INPUT FROM THIS BODY OR THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT SHOULD BE IN THAT. I CONTINUE AND OTHERS CONTINUE TO SAY THAT THAT IS ESSENTIALLY A SELF STORY MECHANISM AND THAT IT PROTECTS AND DOES WORK WITH ME FOR THE MARS AND RESTAURANTS ON SECOND STREET, NOT FOR THE COMMUNITY, NOT FOR THE OTHER RESIDENTS. AND UH, I KNOW DEB WAS AT OUR RECENT, UH, UH, RESIDENTS ASSOCIATION MEETING AND SHE PROBABLY PICKED UP ON THE TENDER OF THE PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED, THEY DO NOT WANT TO PAY FOR THINGS THAT BARS AND RESTAURANTS SHOULD BE PAYING FOR THEMSELVES. AND THIS IS ONE WHERE, UH, THE MAYOR WAS THERE, OTHERS WERE THERE AND TALKED ABOUT FREQUENTLY. IT CONTINUES TO BE TALKED ABOUT FREQUENTLY THAT THIS BODY IS, UH, NON-REPRESENTED OF ITS COMMUNITY AND IT MAY BE ONE [00:55:01] OF THE MOST EXCLUSIONARY AND ISOLATED BODIES IN TERMS OF COMMISSIONS ACROSS THE CITY THAT IT DOESN'T CONNECT WITH THE COMMUNITY. SO I WANT TO EXPRESS THOSE FRUSTRATIONS ON BEHALF OF ALL AND, UH, HOPE FOR BETTER IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? ALL RIGHTY. UM, MOVE TO ADJOURN. WE NEED A MOTION. ADUR. SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR EFFORTS TODAY. AND I'LL SEE YOU IN JANUARY WITH HER JANUARY. SO THE OLD NAVY NEW COMMERCIAL. YOU KNOW WHAT? THANK YOU. I HAVE TO SAY THAT, THAT LAST YEAR AT THE PARADE AND THE ONE THING WE GOT RIPPED ON UP AND DOWN THE PARADE, WHY AREN'T THE MARKET WE WERE PARK FOR FREE? YEAH. PEOPLE WERE YELLING AT IT WAS HYSTERICAL. IT WAS SO FUNNY. WE WERE CRACKING UP. THEY'RE JUST OF COURSE JOKING. SO PARKING COMMISSION LIKE HEY YOU PARK. IT WAS, BUT IT WAS REALLY GOOD NATURE. IT WAS GOOD. THEY WERE THAT, YEAH, WERE JUST GO SAY PARKING COMMISSION. WHAT DO PEOPLE THINK? 'CAUSE I THINK THERE'S SOME MAYBE MISCONCEPTIONS. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.