Nov 06, 2025 Transactions and Use Tax Citizens&#39; Advisory Committee

MEMBER OCHOA.

PRESENT VICE CHAIR AMY.

[ROLL CALL]

SO, UH, TODAY WE'RE GONNA HAVE ACTUALLY A TIGHT TIMELINE.

THERE'S ANOTHER MEETING HERE IN TWO HOURS.

SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE OUTTA HERE AT FOUR 30.

SO I'M GONNA ASK THAT WE MOVE IN FRONT OF THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEM, THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR ELECTION FIRST.

AND THEN WHEN WE GET TO THE REGULAR AGENDA, I WOULD LIKE TO PUSH ITEM NUMBER, UH, FOUR TO THE END.

NOTED.

SO I GUESS WE GOTTA READ THE FIRST ITEM, .

HAVE THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR ELECTION.

FIRST WE

[CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR ELECTION]

THESE NOMINATIONS DO NOT REQUIRE A SECOND.

SO, UM, WE'VE GOT THE ELECTION TO CONTINUE THE CHAIR.

UM, WELL, WE GOTTA HAVE NO NOMINATIONS FIRST.

ALRIGHT, I DECLARE THE NOMINATIONS OPEN FOR THE CHAIR OF THE TRANSACTION AND USE, UH, TAX CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

EACH MEMBER MAY NOMINATE ONE PERSON FOR CHAIR, INCLUDING YOURSELF.

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ARE THERE ANY NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIR? I WILL RENOMINATE CHAIR CRUZ, SEEING, UH, NO OTHER NOMINATIONS.

I DECLARE THE NOMINATIONS CLOSED FOR CHAIR.

UM, A CALL FOR EACH NOMINEE TO SPEAK.

UH, I, I GUESS I NEED TO SPEAK, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO, SO I'M GONNA SAY THANK YOU, .

I ACCEPT, UH, THE NOMINATION.

UM, ALL RIGHT, SO IF ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF MYSELF, I GUESS I CAN CALL FOR MYSELF.

VOTE FOR CHAIR.

UH, PLEASE CAST YOUR VOTE, AND SINCE THERE ARE NO OTHER NOMINATIONS AND YOU'VE ACCEPTED THE VOTE, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I NOW DECLARE THE NOMINATIONS OPEN FOR THE VICE CHAIR OF THE TRANSACTION AND USE TAX CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

EACH MEMBER MAY NOMINATE ONE PERSON FOR VICE CHAIR, INCLUDING YOURSELF.

UH, THESE NOMINATIONS DO NOT REQUIRE, UH, A SECOND.

AND I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO START OFF THE NOMINATIONS WITH JAN HOWER.

ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? UH, BEING NONE, UH, THAT THERE ARE NO FURTHER NOMINATIONS.

I DECLARE THE NOMINATIONS CLOSED FOR VICE CHAIR.

UH, SO WE DON'T NEED TO SPEAK.

JEN, ARE, ARE YOU GONNA ACCEPT THE NOMINATION? THANK YOU.

I, I DO ACCEPT THE NOMINATION.

CITY CLERK, WE DON'T NEED TO DO A VOTE THEN.

AS LONG AS THERE'S NO OTHER NOMINATIONS THAN SHE ACCEPTS.

JAN HOWER ON VICE CHAIR.

OKAY, NOW WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS. CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE READ THE FIRST ITEM? ITEM NUMBER ONE IS RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE TRANSACTION AND USE TAX CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE OF MEETING OF WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 27TH, 2025.

AND CAN I GET A MOTION ON THIS ITEM?

[1. 25-56891 Recommendation to approve the minutes for the Transactions and Use Tax Citizens’ Advisory Committee meeting of Wednesday, August 27, 2025. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY, UH, MEMBER OCHOA AND SECONDED BY MEMBER HOWARD, UH, STAFF.

IS THERE A REPORT OR PRESENTATION FOR THIS ITEM? NO.

CLERK.

UH, PLEASE CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.

IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER ONE, PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM.

NOW, SEEING NONE, THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.

MEMBERS ARE THERE, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, UH, CLERK, PLEASE CALL FOR THE VOTE.

MEMBER HOWER, IF YOU'D LIKE TO GIVE A VOICE VOTE, I CAN TAKE THAT.

PLEASE READ THE NEXT ITEM.

ITEM NUMBER TWO IS RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AN UPDATE FROM MAYOR REX RICHARDSON TO THE TRANSACTION AND USE TAX CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

AND CAN I GET A MOTION ON THIS ITEM?

[2. 25-56892 Recommendation to receive an update from Mayor Rex Richardson to the Transactions and Use Tax Citizens’ Advisory Committee. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

IT HAS, UH, I THINK IT IS, IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MEMBER OCHOA, AND WE ARE STILL PENDING A SECOND.

PERFECT.

IN YOUR LETTER, I ACTUALLY, I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH.

IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MEMBER OCHOA AND SECONDED BY MEMBER CRUZ STAFF.

IS THERE A REPORT OR PRESENTATION FOR THIS ITEM? YES, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO NONE OTHER THAN MAYOR REX RICHARDSON.

WELL, UH, WE ARE DARK THIS WEEK, BUT, UH, I, I, I WANTED TO JUST, YOU KNOW, BLOW MY WEEK AND COME SPEND IT, UH, HERE ON THIS SIDE OF THE DAUS.

UH, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, LORD KNOWS PEOPLE DEFINITELY, UH, SPEND A LOT OF TIME SPEAKING TO ME, AND I'M GONNA SEE WHAT IT FEELS LIKE ON THIS SIDE.

UH, IT'S, IT'S GOOD TO SEE ALL OF YOU.

I WANNA START OFF JUST BY THANKING YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE, ROLANDO, DAVID, JAN, UM, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SERVICE, IT TAKES TIME.

IT IS THANKLESS, BUT IS IMPORTANT WORK, ESPECIALLY ON OUR COMMISSIONS AND OUR BOARDS IN OUR CITY.

ALSO, WANNA THANK OUR CITY STAFF WHO ALSO SPENDS A LOT OF TIME, UH, SUPPORTING THIS IMPORTANT WORK.

AND ALL OF YOU WHO ARE HERE, UM, THE CLERK'S OFFICE, UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN COMMISSIONS, UM, UH, SUBMIT, UH, ADVISORY COMMISSIONS IN PARTICULAR SUBMIT THINGS TO THE CITY COUNCIL, THEY ASSUME THAT THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL DON'T READ.

BUT I GOT YOUR LETTER.

UH, I GOT IN THE MIDDLE OF BUDGET SEASON, UH, AND I READ IT AND I CALLED ROLANDO AND I SAID, HEY, I WANNA COME TALK TO YOUR BOARD.

UH, BECAUSE MUCH OF THE CONTENT

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UH, BUT I THINK THERE, THERE SHOULD BE A, JUST A BROADER CONVERSATION ABOUT, UH, MEASURE A, THE INTENT OF MEASURE A, UM, THE NEED, THE GOAL IS TO SOLVE THE NEED, THE BIG QUESTION ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND SERVICES IN OUR CITY.

AND TO HAVE A BIGGER CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT IT WILL ACTUALLY TAKE TO CREATE THE CITY THAT WE WANT FOR OUR CHILDREN.

AND SO, UH, WHILE MEASURE A HAS CERTAINLY BEEN HELPFUL, IT DOES NOT ANSWER THE BIG QUESTION ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND SERVICES IN OUR CITY.

WHAT WE NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE IS A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY IN OUR CITY ON HOW WE FUND OUR CITY, HOW OUR CITY OPERATES.

WE'VE BEEN BLESSED AND FORTUNATE THAT THROUGHOUT THE YEARS WE'VE HAD DIVERSIFIED REVENUE SOURCES THAT MANY OTHER CITIES HAVE NOT HAD ACCESS TO.

UH, WE'RE A BIG, UM, COASTAL TOWN, HISTORICALLY, A BIG OIL TOWN, ONE OF THE BIGGEST OIL PROVIDENCE IN AMERICA.

AND WE'VE BENEFITED FROM REDEVELOPMENT.

SO A LOT OF THE BIG INFRASTRUCTURE THAT OUR CITY IS KNOWN FOR, YOU KNOW, THE QUEEN MARY, OUR CONVENTION CENTER, MUCH OF THAT WAS PAID FOR HISTORICALLY FROM THE BENEFITS FROM OIL CONVENTION CENTER.

ACTUALLY, IT WAS A BIG LOAN FROM OUR PORT.

I DON'T THINK, UH, THEY HAD ANY INTENTIONAL EVER PAYING THAT LOAN BACK WHEN THEY TOOK THAT BIG LOAN THAT BUILT THE CONVENTION CENTER.

NOW, YOU CAN ARGUE THAT THE DECISIONS MADE THEN, UM, WERE THE RIGHT DECISIONS IN THAT MOMENT, TO NOT DO WHAT OTHER CITIES HAD TRADITIONALLY DONE.

PAON, BUILD YOUR CONVENTION CENTER, PAON, PAVE YOUR STREETS.

WE NEVER DID THAT BECAUSE WE HAD REDEVELOPMENT FOR STREETS.

WE HAD TIGHTS FOR THE COASTLINE, AND WE NEVER DID THAT.

AND I PERSONALLY, YOU KNOW, I LIVE RIGHT ON THE INTERSECTION OF LONG BEACH, LAKEWOOD, BELLFLOWER.

DURING THE PANDEMIC, WE WERE WALKING AROUND A LOT, UM, TAKING THE KIDS FOR WALKS.

I WALKED PAST THE LAKEWOOD COUNCILMAN'S HOUSE AND HE WALKED PAST OUR HOUSE.

'CAUSE WE LIVE AROUND THE BORDER.

AND I ALWAYS NOTICED THE DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU CROSS INTO LAKEWOOD AND INTO LONG BEACH.

AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS A COUNCIL MEMBER, WASN'T THE MAYOR AT THE TIME, BUT I KNOW HOW TAXES WORK, AND I PAY ATTENTION WHEN OTHER CITIES PASS BONDS AND OTHER THINGS FOR THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE.

IT'S AN INVESTMENT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO SOME OF THE SAME THINGS THAT WE'VE HAD AS A CITY.

ON THE OTHER HAND, SALES TAX, ALTHOUGH IT'S A GOOD THING, WE'RE NOT REALLY A CITY THAT'S REALLY BIG ON SALES TAX GENERATORS IN OUR CITY.

WE DON'T HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A BIG CAR DEALERSHIP CORRIDOR ANYMORE.

THERE USED TO BE A LOT ON LONG BEACH BOULEVARD.

WE WENT THROUGH A PROCESS OF REDEVELOPING THOSE OVER THE LAST FEW DECADES.

WE HAVE SALES TAX, UH, LEAKAGE THAT TAKES PLACE, COMPTON, SIGNAL HILL, AND LAKEWOOD.

SO YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, HOME DEPOTS AND BEST BUYS AND SHOPPING MALLS RIGHT ON THE BORDER.

AND OUR SALES TAX LEAKS INTO THOSE AREAS.

AND WE DON'T HAVE MANY OF THOSE THINGS HERE.

SO SALES TAX HAS NEVER REALLY HISTORICALLY BEEN THE STRONGEST, UH, REVENUE SOURCE FOR US.

SO YOU GET TO A POINT WHERE NOW, WHAT WE'VE COUNTED ON FOR MANY YEARS, OIL AND REDEVELOPMENT, WELL, WE KNOW WHAT'S TAKING PLACE.

2013, THE GOVERNOR, THE LEGISLATURE ELIMINATED REDEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S HOW THE STREETS IN NORTH AND, AND BIXBY KNOWLES AND, UH, CENTRAL LONG BEACH WERE PAID FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

WELL, THAT ENDED IN 2013.

AND THERE HAS NOT BEEN A REPLACEMENT BY THE LEGISLATURE.

THAT WAS ALSO ONE OF OUR BIGGEST, UM, REVENUE SOURCES, DEDICATED REVENUE SOURCES FOR HOUSING PRODUCTION IN OUR CITY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING SUBSIDIES WAS REDEVELOPMENT.

WELL, THAT ENDED.

AND WHEN THAT ENDED, WE SAW HOUSING.

IT CONTRIBUTED TO THE HOUS, AFFORDABLE HOUSING DECLINE BEGAN TO TAKE PLACE ALL THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA.

AND WE ALSO, WITHOUT THE THOSE DOLLARS YOU'VE SEEN, YOU SAW LESS INVESTMENT GO INTO PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND STREETS AND POLICE STATIONS AND FIRE STATIONS.

IN FACT, THE NORTH IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THE NORTH FIRE STATION, NORTH POLICE STATION, THE FIRE STATION 12 AND NORTH POLICE STATION WERE BOTH FULLY FUNDED.

AND THE OBAMA LIBRARY WERE ALL FUNDED WITH REDEVELOPMENT.

SINCE THEN, YOU HAVEN'T HAD BIG INFRASTRUCTURE TAKE PLACE.

YOU'VE HAD GRANTS.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE IMPROVED FACILITIES.

WE'VE DONE SOME REHABS ON SOME BUILDINGS, BUT YOU HAVEN'T SEEN BIG INFRASTRUCTURE ACTUALLY TAKE PLACE SINCE THE END OF REDEVELOPMENT.

AND NOW WE'RE SEEING, UH, THE REALITY, THAT SAME REALITY BEGAN TO COME TO FRUITION ON OIL.

UH, DOWN IN THE S WE'VE SEEN OUR FIRST DEFICIT FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE WE'VE HAD OIL, OIL REVENUE, A DEFICIT.

UM, WHICH MEANS, UH, SOME OF THE LARGER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'VE ENJOYED IN OUR COASTLINE.

YOU KNOW, HOW WE'VE BUILT BIG THINGS AND POOLS AND ALL THAT IN THE PAST.

NOW YOU'RE SEEING FUNDING CHALLENGES ON HOW YOU COMPLETE POOLS OR HOW YOU INVEST IN THINGS LIKE SEA WALLS.

AND SO MEASURE A'S NOT GONNA SOLVE THAT PROBLEM, MEASURE A, WE ARE FORTUNATE THAT WE HAVE THAT, AND THAT WE WERE SMART AND TAKING ADVANTAGE, UM, AND UTILIZING MEASURE A.

I MEAN, IN FACT, WHEN WE BEGAN TO SEE THAT DEC DECLINE IN INFRASTRUCTURE, IF WE HADN'T DONE MEASURE A, WE WOULDN'T HAVE SEEN THE MOST RECENT PROGRESS THAT WE'VE SEEN.

WE'VE INVESTED MORE INTO STREETS IN PARTICULAR THAN WE'VE EVER SEEN.

SO $50 MILLION A YEAR, WE PUT IN THE STREETS AND WE SAW OUR PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX GO FROM 56 TO 61.

THAT'S PROGRESS.

BUT THAT'S GOING FROM AN F TO A D.

IF YOU WANT TO REALLY ACCELERATE IT,

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YOU HAVE TO INVEST MORE MONEY INTO OUR STREETS.

MOST RECENTLY, YOU KNOW, WE WORKED WITH OUR CITY AUDITOR WHO PUT FORWARD AN AUDIT CALLED FOR AN ADDITIONAL, ABOUT $30 MILLION ANNUALLY, $30 MILLION, A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY.

BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IF YOU WANT ACCELERATE, PAVING MORE STREETS IN OUR CITY WHEN YOU ADD IN ADDITIONAL NEEDS.

BUILDINGS, COMMUNITY CENTERS, UM, POOLS, RIGHT? WE'RE, WE'RE A CITY WHO WAS BUILT BACK WHEN, YOU KNOW, SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA DIDN'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF RAIN.

AND SO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE WAS NEVER REALLY BUILT FOR THE AMOUNT OF, UM, EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS THAT WE HAVE TODAY.

YOU KNOW, THE DOWN ON THE COASTLINE, IT MAY BE COOL, BUT IT GETS 10 DEGREES HOTTER AS YOU HEAD INLAND.

SO UP IN NORTH LONG BEACH, WE NEED THE POOL.

YOU NEED POOLS ON THE WEST SIDE.

YOU NEED CLIMATE FRIENDLY INFRASTRUCTURE.

ALL THESE THINGS ARE WHAT WE NEED.

SO THE BIG QUESTION IS, HOW DO WE GO FROM A CITY WHO'S INVESTING MORE THAN WE'VE EVER INVESTED, UM, TO SIMPLY HOLD THE LINE OR GO FROM, UM, YOU KNOW, A SUBPAR STATUS TO SIMPLY IMPROVING THAT SUBPAR STATUS.

HOW DO YOU GO FROM THERE TO A PLACE WHERE YOU'RE CREATING THE CITY THAT YOU WOULD BE PROUD TO LEAVE TO YOUR CHILDREN? WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS A FRAMING THAT I, I I COMMONLY USE BECAUSE REALITY IS LIKE, MY KIDS ARE GONNA LIVE IN THE CITY AND LIVE A WHOLE LOT LONGER THAN ME, LORD WILLING.

WE WANT TO KNOW THAT THE TIME WE'VE BEEN IN LEADERSHIP, ALL OF US TOGETHER, WE HAVEN'T JUST SIMPLY GOTTEN BY AND PASSED IT ON TO THE NEXT GENERATION.

BUT WE'VE ACTUALLY ASKED THE HARD QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW WE CHANGE, HOW WE SOLVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE QUESTION AS A CITY.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.

I WANTED TO COME TO YOU, UM, AND TALK TO YOU.

'CAUSE I SEE THAT YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY INTERESTED IN THE SAME DISCUSSION AND THAT YOU'VE TAKEN INTEREST IN, HEY, THESE NEEDS STILL CLEARLY EXIST.

I THINK EXPECTING MEASURE A TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM, AND I DON'T, I DON'T ASSUME THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU BELIEVE, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO BE HONEST WITH OUR PUBLIC THAT THAT MEASURE A IN AND OF ITSELF, AND SALES TAX IN GENERAL, IS JUST NOT FOR A CITY OF OUR SIZE, A STRONG ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, REVENUE GENERATOR, MAYBE IN LONG TERM AS WE TRANSITION TO A MORE TOURISM DRIVEN CITY.

OR IF WE MAKE CERTAIN INVESTMENTS OVER TIME, POTENTIALLY, BUT NOT, NOT IN ANY A REAL WAY.

WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO HAVE THE REAL REVENUE CONVERSATION WITH OUR CITY ABOUT WHAT DOES IT COST TO BUILD THE CITY THAT WE, THAT OUR CHILDREN DESERVE, THE CITY WE CAN ALL BE PROUD OF, AND, AND WHERE ARE THOSE NEEDS.

SO WHILE THIS MAY BE MAYBE A, A, A STEP OUTSIDE OF WHAT YOU'RE TRADITIONALLY ASKED TO DO, WHICH IS LOOK AT OUR BUDGET AND SEE IF IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE RESOLUTION THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED WITH MEASURE A, I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO, TO TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER IN THIS NEXT, YOU KNOW, FEW MONTHS AND ACTUALLY LOOK AT ASSUMING MEASURE A COMES OUT AT THE LEVELS THAT IT'S PROJECTED.

HOW DO WE, WHERE'S THE GAP? WHAT IS ACTUALLY NEEDED? YOU KNOW, DO A LITTLE BIT OF WORK TO UNDERSTAND IF WE WERE TO ACCELERATE INFRASTRUCTURE SPENDING, WHAT IS THE NEED HELP, HELP US DEFINE THAT NEED.

HAVE THAT CON CONVERSATION A LITTLE BIT MORE PUBLICLY HERE AT YOUR, HERE AT YOUR DIOCESE AND YOUR COMMITTEE LEVEL TO HELP THE CITY COUNCIL SEE THAT ONE, WE'RE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO SOLVE ALL OF THESE CHALLENGES WITH MEASURE A AND THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A REAL COMPREHENSIVE CONVERSATION ABOUT, UH, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, HOW WE REFORM INFRASTRUCTURE IN OUR CITY.

AND SO, UM, THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO COME DOWN AND TALK TO ALL OF YOU.

UH, AGAIN, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I'M HERE.

UH, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY THOUGHTS ON ANYTHING I I ASKED YOU, UH, OR OR BROUGHT UP TODAY, I'M HAPPY TO, HAPPY TO TALK WITH YOU.

IMPROVE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE? TO WHAT LEVEL, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA SEE THOSE REPORT CARDS ON A REGULAR BASIS.

AND BE SO I CAN STAY ON TASK HERE.

I NEED TO ASK FIRST THE CLERK TO, UH, CALL FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS.

IS THAT CORRECT? IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM.

NOW, SEEING NONE, THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.

SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP, UH, OURSELVES FOR COMMENTS.

BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, I WANNA FIRST AT LEAST SAY A HUNDRED PERCENT THANK YOU, REX, FOR MAKING THIS, UH, MEETING.

I KNOW WE HAD AN ORIGINAL MEETING SCHEDULED, AND THEN I KNOW YOU WERE GOING OUTTA TOWN AND MM-HMM .

AND YOU BUSTED YOUR TAIL TO GET HERE SO THAT HE COULD BE HERE.

SO I, I APPRECIATE YOU CERTAINLY COMING IN AND HAVING THE CONVERSATION.

AND, AND I WANNA ALSO THANK YOU FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WHAT I FELT THIS COMMITTEE WAS TRYING TO DO WAS TO HIGHLIGHT THAT, UM, WE ARE, WE DO NOT HAVE, UH, THE BASE IN PLACE TO IMPROVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

LIKE WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO SEE IT MM-HMM .

THAT WE HAVE OTHER, UH, CHALLENGES THAT ARE FACING THE CITY AND, AND THAT WE'VE ASKED THE HARD QUESTION OURSELVES OF, UM, IS OUR INFRASTRUCTURE GETTING ANY BETTER? AND IF IT'S NOT, WHAT IS IT GONNA TAKE TO

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SO THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED THE CONVERSATION.

SO BEFORE I SAY ANYMORE, I'M JUST GONNA OPEN IT UP TO OUR MEMBERS, UH, HOWARD OCHOA, IF Y'ALL WANNA A, HAVE A COMMENT OR B, ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE FOR, FOR THE MAYOR.

AND THEN I'LL JUMP BACK IN.

AND, UM, JUST, UH, UM, UM, CONFIRMING WHAT, UM, CHAIR CREW SAID, THANK YOU MAYOR, SO MUCH FOR COMING AND SPENDING THIS TIME WITH US.

UM, COULD YOU JUST REFRESH MY MEMORY ON REDEVELOPMENT AND MAYBE JUST GIVE US A LITTLE, UM, MORE BACKGROUND ON WHY IT WAS DISCONTINUED, IF IT'S HAVING SURE.

IT CAN'T BE JUST LONG BEACH THAT'S HAVING PROBLEMS WITH MM-HMM .

WITH THAT.

YEAH.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

SO THE GOOD NEWS IS, YOU KNOW, I WAS HERE FOR THE WHOLE, YOU KNOW, I WAS A STAFF MEMBER WHEN THE DISSOLUTION OF RES UH, WHEN THE VOTE, UH, THE LEGISLATURE TOOK THE ACTION TO DISSOLVE REDEVELOPMENT.

I WAS A STAFF MEMBER HERE, AND IN THE NINTH DISTRICT THAT WAS A REDEVELOPMENT AREA.

SO WE DEPENDED ON THAT FOR MOSTLY ALL OF OUR BIG INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO, LIKE I SAID, THE POLICE STATION, THE FIRE STATION, THE OBAMA LIBRARY, THEY WERE ALL BIG REDEVELOPMENT, EVERYTHING ELSE.

UH, AFTER THAT, WE REALLY HAD TO JUST COBBLE OTHER FUNDS TOGETHER OR COUNT ON STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDING REQUESTS.

EARMARKS, WHICH ARE VERY INCONSISTENT AND DEPENDS ON, YOU KNOW, WHICH PARTY IS LEADING, ARE, ARE THINGS HAPPENING IN WHAT DISTRICT? JUST NOT A REALLY CONSISTENT WAY TO REALLY THOUGHTFULLY PLAN ON INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT THE ESSENTIALLY REDEVELOPMENT, TAX INCREMENT FINANCING.

SO IT TOOK A PORTION OF GROWTH, REVENUE GROWTH, PROPERTY SALE, PROPERTY TAX GROWTH IN AN AREA AND REINVESTED IT BACK INTO THAT PROJECT AREA.

SO, SO IT WASN'T A TAX INCREASE, BUT LET'S SAY YOU'RE TAX IS GENERATING A HUNDRED DOLLARS TODAY, AND TOMORROW IT'S $110, AND THAT $10 A PORTION OF THAT $10 CAN GO BACK INTO THAT AREA.

AND THE CONCEPT IS, THE MORE YOU INVEST IN THESE AREAS TO REMOVE THE LIGHT BLIGHT AND HOUSE, YOU KNOW, IMPROVE HOUSING AND INVEST IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, YOU'RE GONNA INCREASE THE PROPERTY VALUES OVER TIME, AND YOU'RE GONNA CREATE A UPWARD LOOP.

SO YOUR ULTIMATELY, YOUR INCREMENT WILL GROW OVER TIME.

AND SO IT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR MANY YEARS IN THE STATE, STATE, WENT THROUGH SOME BUDGET CHALLENGES.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A NEW GOVERNOR AT THE TIME, AND, AND THE GOVERNOR WAS NOT, YOU KNOW, A BIG PROPONENT, EVEN THOUGH HE HELPED CREATE THE, OR CREATE REDEVELOPMENT WAS GOVERNED THE FIRST TIME.

UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, HE FELT IT WAS TIME TO ELIMINATE REDEVELOPMENT.

LONG BEACH OPPOSED THIS.

WE WERE VERY ACTIVELY ADVOCATING AGAINST IT, BUT IT WAS A DIFFICULT BUDGET SITUATION.

AND, AND IT, AND IT WAS ELIMINATED.

WE PAVED A LOT OF STREETS WITH REDEVELOPMENT IN THE PRO IN THE NORTH, IN THE CENTRAL PROJECT AREAS.

UM, YOU KNOW, BIXBY KNOWS A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS.

FIRST STREET, FIRST FRIDAYS AND ALL OF THAT.

A LOT OF THAT WAS REDEVELOPMENT.

THE BUILDING UP OF OUR BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS, A LOT OF THAT WAS REDEVELOPMENT.

NOW, AFTER REDEVELOPMENT, SOME OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY CONTINUED BECAUSE THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS CONTINUED.

SO UPTOWN CREATED THE BID, CENTRAL LONG BEACH HAD A BID, BLAIR DID HIS THING IN, YOU KNOW, IN, UM, BIXBY KNOWLES DOWNTOWN.

A LOT OF THAT HAPPENED 'CAUSE THEY HAD THE ABILITY TO ASSESS THEMSELVES, GENERATE REVENUE FOR CLEAN AND SAFE AND PROGRAM ACTIVITIES.

BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT BIG INFRASTRUCTURE TOOK A, TOOK A BREAK.

WE NEVER REPLACED THAT WITH LIKE A LOCAL INFRASTRUCTURE MEASURE.

THE LAST TIME WE ACTUALLY WENT TO THE VOTERS FOR AN INFRASTRUCTURE MEASURE, IT WAS UNDER MAYOR FOSTER'S MEASURE.

I, AND IT WASN'T SUCCESSFUL.

UM, SO HISTORICALLY, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THINGS LIKE REDEVELOPMENT OIL, WE, WE HAVEN'T COMPREHENSIVELY THOUGHT ABOUT OUR, UH, SOLUTION TO BIG INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND, YOU KNOW, AND THE REALITY IS LIKE WE CAN'T KEEP TAKING LOSSES AND EXPECTING, YOU KNOW, WE LOST REDEVELOPMENT.

WE'RE LOSING, YOU KNOW, OIL.

IT'S NOT COMING TO THE EXTENT IT WAS IN THE PAST.

AND WE CAN'T KEEP EXPECTING OUR CITY TO HAVE A CERTAIN STANDARD WHEN ALL WE'RE DOING IS ESSENTIALLY TRIMMING AROUND THE EDGES AND HOLDING ON TO WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

SOME, WE'RE MAKING SOME INVESTMENTS THAT ARE REALLY GOOD THAT WILL GENERATE REVENUE.

YOU'RE IN THE ARTS, YOU KNOW, PLANNING COMMISSION WILL BE HERE TONIGHT DISCUSSING THE LONG BEACH AMPHITHEATER.

THAT'S A ONE-TIME INVESTMENT THAT GENERATES ONGOING REVENUE.

THAT'S SMART.

WE DO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THAT, PARTICULARLY IN OUR TOURISM AREAS, TO GENERATE ONGOING REVENUE WITH ONE-TIME INVESTMENTS.

WE'RE GONNA TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

THE QUEEN MARY'S FINALLY SPINNING OFF REVENUE.

IT'S BEING USED AS A FESTIVAL SITE.

EVENTS ARE TAKING PLACE THERE.

THIS OPERATING MODEL'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN IT USED TO BE.

SO IT'S ACTUALLY PUTTING POINTS ON THE BOARD FOR US.

BUT IT'S NOT, I MEAN, THESE ARE LONG TERM PLAYS, RIGHT? THESE AREN'T GONNA TURN AROUND AND BE ABLE TO TRANSFORM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND MAKE A REAL DIFFERENCE IN THE PARKS AND THE STREETS THAT THE RESIDENTS CARE ABOUT IN THE SHORT, IN THE NEAR TERM.

THESE ARE LONG TERM INVESTMENTS.

WE HAVE TO LIKE, ANSWER THE QUESTION.

AND THE CITY COUNCIL

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IS LIKE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.

I THINK IT'S A CONVERSATION THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE AS WELL.

IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, DON'T, YOU KNOW, MEASURE A THANK YOU.

WE APPRECIATE IT, RIGHT? SPEND IT THE WAY THE VOTERS INTENDED YOU TO SPEND IT, BUT ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THE GAP.

ACKNOWLEDGE IT, AND WHAT ARE WE DOING TO CLOSE THAT GAP? AND WHAT ARE WE DOING TO FILL THAT GAP EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

DAVID, WHAT YOU GOT? UM, OH, GO FOR IT.

DO YOU THINK THERE'S ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE ON THE COUNTY LEVEL AS KIND OF A, A REDEVELOPMENT STYLE PROGRAM THAT MAYBE WE ARE ACTUALLY EXPERIMENTING WHAT'S CALLED THE STATE PUT FORWARD? ALLOW CITIES TO CREATE A QUASI REPLACEMENT.

UM, BUT NOWHERE NEAR AS RE ROBUST, THEY'RE CALLED ENHANCED INFRASTRUCTURE FINANCE DISTRICTS AND CITIES CAN PUT A PORTION OF THEIR FUTURE GROWTH AND THE COUNTY CAN OPT IN TO PUT A PORTION OF THEIR FUTURE GROWTH, BUT IT TAKES A LONG TIME FOR THOSE TO MATURE, RIGHT? SO IF GROWTH IS SMALL TODAY, MAYBE IN 20 YEARS, IT'S LARGER.

SO YOU COULD PUT THEM IN PLACE NOW.

SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE DONE A STUDY AND THE CITY COUNCIL HAD HAD COMMISSIONED A STUDY.

SO WE'RE PREPARED TO BEGIN THAT PROCESS NOW.

SO THAT'S A PART OF OUR LONG-TERM GROW LONG BEACH STRATEGY.

BUT AGAIN, THOSE IN 20 YEARS, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE BENEFITS FOR THOSE.

SO THAT HAS TO BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION.

TAX INCREMENT FINANCING HAS WORKED FOR US IN THE PAST, SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO EXPLORE.

WHAT ELSE? I JUST WANNA SAY THANKS, MAYOR, FOR STOPPING ON BY AND GIVING US THIS, UH, TASK THAT I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE A BIT OF OUR HANDS FULL WITH TRYING TO SEE HOW WE CAN CONTINUE TO HELP THE CITY.

UM, I THINK JUST IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CAN TRY TO DO TO TACKLE IT IS JUST GIVEN WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL'S DONE WITH ITS LONG-TERM PLANNING FOR INVESTMENT AND OPPORTUNITIES, LIKE YOU MENTIONED THE AMPHITHEATER MM-HMM .

MM-HMM .

UM, JUST GETTING, YOU KNOW, UH, YOUR IDEAS ON A BROAD SCALE OF WHERE THE CITY'S PLAN IS TO KIND OF SHIFT AWAY.

'CAUSE I KNOW WE'VE GOT THE SETBACK LAW COMING IN SOON THAT'S GONNA CONTINUE TO TAKE AWAY SOME OF THAT OIL REVENUE, RIGHT? THAT'S A CHALLENGE.

AND THEN, UM, THE ECONOMY ITSELF, MM-HMM .

AT LARGE IS KIND OF NOT IN A GREAT PLACE.

THE POOR, I THINK LAST, UH, MONTH SAW ITS FIRST BIG DROP IN SHIPMENTS COMING IN.

WHERE ARE YOU SEEING THE CITY'S PIVOT ECONOMICALLY TO HELP KIND OF KEEP THINGS GOING? SO I, I NORMALLY TAKE, TAKE TWO OPPORTUNITIES A YEAR TO TALK ABOUT THIS BIG QUESTION OF WHERE OUR ECONOMY'S GOING.

AND IT'S AT THE STATE OF THE CITY.

AND IN JUNE, WE HOST AN EVENT CALLED GROW LONG BEACH IS A SORT OF AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PRESENTATION.

BUT, UM, WHAT WHERE WE'VE BEEN FOCUSED LAST FEW YEARS IS, UM, A STRATEGY CALLED GROW LONG BEACH.

AND IT'S INVESTING IN FIVE KEY SECTORS.

THREE, I WOULD CALL GROWTH SECTORS.

THE OTHER TWO AREN'T NECESSARILY GROWTH IN ITS CURRENT POSTURE, BUT THEY'RE IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY.

SO WE, WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THEM OR THAT MAY, THAT MAY GO AWAY.

AND, AND A PART OF THIS, YOU KNOW, CONNECTED TO THIS QUESTION OF WHAT ASSETS ARE GONNA BE HERE WORKING FOR US IN A HUNDRED YEARS, RIGHT? WELL, IN 100 YEARS, A LOT IS CHANGING, RIGHT? THERE'S TECHNOLOGY AUTOMATION, WHO KNOWS WHAT HAPPENS.

BUT I WILL TELL YOU, IN 100 YEARS, THE COASTLINE MAY LOOK DIFFERENT, BUT WE WILL STILL BE A BEACH CITY IN 100 YEARS.

SO HOW DO WE INVEST IN THAT COASTLINE? HOW DO WE MONETIZE THAT COASTLINE? HOW DO TO CREATE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES ACTIVATED LEAN INTO ARTS AND CULTURE AND TOURISM? HOW DO WE MAKE IT AN ICONIC DESTINATION ACRO ACROSS THE CALIFORNIA COAST, RECOGNIZED AROUND THE WORLD? THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IF OVER THE NEXT CENTURY, YOU WANT, UM, TO ECONOMICALLY BENEFIT, YOU HAVE TO PLAY YOUR STRENGTHS.

SO ONE OF OUR FIVE GROWTH SECTORS IS TOURISM.

AND IT'S LARGELY CENTERED ON CULTURE, ARTS VENUES.

WE'VE DONE A LOT.

FOOD.

FOOD SEEMS GREAT, RESTAURANTS ARE GREAT.

WE'RE DOING A LOT, RIGHT? LOTS OF HISTORY.

HOW DO WE PACKAGE IT TOGETHER? OUR MUSIC HISTORY, OUR BEAUTIFUL, WALKABLE INVESTMENTS IN OUR COASTLINE OR FOOD? WELL, WE NEED TO CREATE MORE DESTINATIONS THAT ATTRACT FOLKS.

THAT'S WHY THE AM THE AMPHITHEATER IS A, A SIMPLE, A SIMPLE WIN, RIGHT? IT GETS 12,000 PEOPLE 40 TIMES A YEAR TO COME TO YOUR COASTLINE AND SPEND MONEY, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOUR NATURAL ASSET, RIGHT? LONG TERM.

YOU WANNA BUILD A PERMANENT, ICONIC, YOU KNOW, HOLLYWOOD BOWL ON THE WATER LONG TERM.

BUT LET'S START WITH ACTIVATING WHAT WE HAVE, QUEEN MARY, AND A PARKING LOT, RIGHT? SO THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF ACCENTUATING A NATURAL ASSET, OUR COAST.

SO THAT'S ONE OF OUR FIVE SECTORS.

THE SECOND WHERE WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY IS CONNECTED TO WHAT I BELIEVE WILL STILL BE HERE IN A HUNDRED YEARS.

OUR AIRPORT HAS BEEN HERE, THE LAST CENTURY IS THE LONG, THE OLDEST MUNICIPAL AIRPORT IN AMERICA, AND WITH THE AIRPORT HAS BROUGHT LOTS OF PRODUCTION.

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BOEING, MCDONALD, DOUGLAS, C 17, ALL OF THAT HAS HAPPENED.

IT'S BEEN BENEFICIAL TO OUR CITY IN TERMS OF THE WORKFORCE.

WELL NOW, OVER THE NEXT CENTURY, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? I THINK IT'S SPACE.

WE'VE BECOME, YOU KNOW, THE TIP OF THE SPEAR ON A RESURGENCE OF ADVANCED MANUFACTURING IN CALIFORNIA.

WE'VE GOT THE SPACE, WE'VE GOT THE TALENT, WE'VE GOT THE RELATIONSHIPS, THE INFRASTRUCTURE'S IN PLACE.

WE'VE SEEN 4,200 JOBS JUST IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, TWO AND A HALF YEARS IN SPACE AND ADVANCED MANUFACTURING COME TO LONG BEACH.

AND THAT'S NOT SLOWING DOWN.

AND SO I THINK ONCE WE GET, I MEAN, IT IS ANTICIPATED BY 2035 FOR SPACE TO BE A $4 TRILLION INDUSTRY OR $2 TRILLION INDUSTRY, WE'RE GONNA GET A PIECE OF THAT.

I MEAN, JUST LIKE WE MADE A DECISION AT SOME POINT TO BE A PORT TOWN, TO HAVE AN AIRPORT, TO BE, UH, AND HAVE AN AIRPORT, HAVE A PORT, AT SOME POINT, WE'RE GONNA MAKE A DECISION TO BE A SPACE PORT.

MAYBE NOT LAUNCHING, BUT MAYBE AS THINGS RETURN, THEY MAY BE COMING THROUGH THE WEST, THROUGH THE WEST COAST, THROUGH THE PACIFIC.

SO THE, SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT I THINK WILL BE THERE.

SO I THINK AEROSPACE, ADVANCED MANUFACTURING, THAT'S ONE OF OUR SECOND GROWTH SECTORS.

AND THEN THE, THE THIRD, I THINK IN A HUNDRED YEARS, OUR PORT OF LONG BEACH WILL STILL BE HERE.

I THINK WE, THE DECISIONS WE'RE MAKING TO, TO, YOU KNOW, TO GREEN AND TO, UM, GO TO ZERO EMISSIONS OR SMART INVESTMENTS, OUR CAPACITY TO TAKE ON BIGGER, CLEANER VESSELS IS SMART.

I THINK IN THE, I THINK TRADE IS ONLY GONNA GROW OVER THE NEXT CENTURY.

I THINK OUR IMPORTANCE IS GONNA GROW.

SO I THINK WE HAVE TO TIE ALL OF OUR ECONOMIC STRATEGIES TO THOSE THREE INDUSTRIES.

NOW, THE TWO WHICH ARE NOT NECESSARILY GROWING, BUT ESSENTIAL TO WHO WE ARE, ARE EDUCATION AND HEALTHCARE.

I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT HOSPITALS WILL BE HERE IN A HUNDRED YEARS.

THE NATURE OF HEALTHCARE IS CHANGING RAPIDLY.

IT'S BEEN A GAME OF ATTRITION.

I DON'T KNOW THAT PUBLIC EDUCATION LOOKS THE SAME WAY IN A HUNDRED YEARS.

I DON'T KNOW.

BUT IF WE WANT IT TO BE HERE, THEN WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THOSE INDUSTRIES.

LOOK AT WAYS WE CAN PRESERVE THEM, UM, BECAUSE THOSE ARE SO IMPORTANT TO THE VALUES OF WHO WE ARE IN LONG BEACH.

SO I'M BIG ON PUBLIC EDUCATION, RIGHT? WE HAVE TO, LIKE, WE HAVE TO FIGHT FOR LONG BEACH STATE AND, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND ALL THOSE THINGS.

SO, SO I SAY ALL THAT TO SAY WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE TAKING SOME SMART CHANCES RIGHT NOW ON THE THINGS WE'RE GOING AFTER IS BEING NOTICED, YOU KNOW, NATIONALLY, UH, THE DECISIONS WE'RE MAKING, BUT WE HAVE TO BE CLEAR.

LIKE IF WE DON'T INVEST IN SERVICES AND INFRASTRUCTURE, THE QUALITY OF LIFE, THE QUALITY OF PLACE HERE WILL IMPACT THESE OTHER THINGS.

SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF JUST BEING SMART ABOUT LIKE, THE BASICS, STREETS, SAFETY SERVICES, RIGHT? YOU GOTTA MASTER THE BASICS, RIGHT? AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS WILL, WILL ADD THE AMENITIES THAT YOU NEED LONG TERM.

GOOD.

ANYTHING ELSE? YOU GUYS GOOD? NO.

WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WHAT'S GOING TOWARDS INVESTMENTS.

SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO KIND OF SUMMARIZE FOR MYSELF WHAT I'M HEARING AND, AND I THINK HOPEFULLY WHAT I BELIEVE THIS COMMITTEE CAN DO AND, AND THEN FIGURING OUT A PROCESS OF WHAT WE COULD DO.

BECAUSE I KNOW FOR THIS ALL LAST YEAR, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, UH, A SPIRIT OF TRANSPARENCY.

UH, BECAUSE AS WE DO SEE THE NUMBERS ON A REGULAR BASIS, AND, AND, AND STAFF HAS PREPARED ALL THAT FOR US.

I KNOW FOR MYSELF, I KIND OF GOT A LITTLE SHELL SHOCKED BECAUSE I WAS NOT EDUCATED.

AND I KNOW WE'VE BECOME EDUCATED AND I, I I THANK STAFF FOR EDUCATING US TO UNDERSTAND YOU'RE PRETTY EDUCATED, ROLANDO.

WELL, NO, TO, TO, UH, THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

I JUST BOUGHT THE BILL THAT WHEN I VOTED TWICE FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, MEASURE A, THAT WE HAD ENOUGH MONEY TO NOT ONLY, UH, UH, UH, KEEP OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT TO IMPROVE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE TO DO ALL THESE THINGS.

AND I THOUGHT THERE WAS ENOUGH MONEY IN THE BANK FOR THEIR, AND I THINK MOST CITIZENS BELIEVE THAT.

AND, AND I BELIEVE IN A SPIRIT OF TRANSPARENCY, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FIGURE OUT HOW CAN WE BECOME A VEHICLE AS A COMMITTEE.

AND I, AND I ADDRESSED THE COMMITTEE IN THIS, THAT HOW DO WE BECOME A VEHICLE TO HELP EDUCATE OUR, OUR, OUR CITY, OUR OUR, THE REST OF US, OUR CITIZENS HERE.

THAT, THAT WE DO NEED SOMETHING THAT THERE IS A GAP.

AND, AND WE, WE, WE, WE'VE FIRST APPROACHED IT, UH, ABOUT TRYING TO CREATE A SCORECARD.

AND I THINK THAT'S ONE THING WE WANNA TRY TO PUSH THIS YEAR, HOPEFULLY, IS HOW DO WE DO SOME COMPARISONS FROM OUR PRIOR SCORE SCORECARDS TO SHOW WHAT HAS IMPROVED AND WHAT HASN'T, AND THEN TO HIGHLIGHT THE GAP AND THE NEED, AND THAT IF WE DON'T ADDRESS IT, IT'S ONLY GONNA GET WORSE.

I THINK THE SECOND THING THAT WE'VE BROUGHT UP, AND I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE IN A LATER CONVERSATION FOR US, IS ADDRESSING A TOPIC.

AND ONE OF THE TOPICS THAT WAS BEEN BROUGHT UP IN THE PAST THAT WE'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS COMING YEAR IS HOW ARE THE BONDS BEING SPENT? 'CAUSE WHEN WE SEE THE BONDS AS THEY ARE TAKING ADVANCED MEASURE A MONIES TO TRY TO HELP, UH, WE SEE IT AS A IMPROVING THE SCORECARD, THE INFRASTRUCTURE AS IT EXISTS, BUT ALSO ALONG THE SAME LINES OF

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AND IN LOOKING AT FIRST GLANCE, THERE APPEARS TO BE SOME GOOD THINGS, YOU KNOW, TOWARDS 2028 OLYMPICS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

YEAH.

BUT HAVING THAT CONVERSATION AND WHAT'S, WHAT, WHAT MORE IS NEEDED? SO, SO I WOULD LIKE TO ADD LATER ON A CONVERSATION FOR US WHEN WE TALK ABOUT FUTURE TOPICS IS HOW CAN WE BECOME THAT VEHICLE AS A COMMITTEE TO OPEN UP TO THE PUBLIC? 'CAUSE AS IT STANDS TODAY, ONE TIME, HAS THERE EVER BEEN A PUBLIC PERSON BE, YOU KNOW, COME TO THE MEETING BESIDES YOURSELF TODAY OR AS THE MAYOR, BUT IN ANY OTHER MEETING, WE HAD ONE PERSON COME IN AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH US AND ASK US ABOUT, UH, SOMETHING WHERE MEASURE A SHOULD BE.

AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A SHAME AND SHAME ON ME THAT I WASN'T DOING THAT WHEN I WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, A A REGULAR LONG BEACH PERSON.

SO, UM, I, I JUST WANNA, AGAIN, THANK YOU AND I WOULD LOVE TO ASK OR, UH, LAY TO YOUR, LET US KNOW HOW YOU THINK BEST, UH, THAT WE CAN HELP THE CITY IN DOING THE THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED.

NUMBER ONE, ABSOLUTELY.

ADDRESS, UH, UM, HIGHLIGHTING THE GAP AND HOW CAN WE ADDRESS THE GAP? ABSOLUTELY.

THAT'S THE ASK.

SO I'M GONNA WORK WITH, I'M GONNA MAKE SURE IT'S ALIGNED WITH WHAT YOUR, YOUR MISSION IS UNDER YOUR UNDER, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, CITY ATTORNEY.

AND WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH STAFF TO GET SOME VERY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT WE WANT YOU GUYS TO TALK ABOUT AND TACKLE HERE.

UH, THAT CAN BE HELPFUL AS THE OVERALL DISCUSSION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO HAVE.

ALL RIGHT? OKAY.

THANKS A LOT.

ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR MEETING.

YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T, I, I DON'T THINK I EVER CALLED FOR A VOTE FOR US TO HAVE A CONVERSATION 'CAUSE WE WERE JUST SO EAGER TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION, CITY CLERK.

SO I'M GONNA APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

NO, YOU'RE FINE.

OKAY, GOOD.

I WOULD'VE STOPPED YOU .

SO CAN WE JUST GO ON TO THE NEXT ITEM? WE CAN CALL THE VOTE NOW FOR THIS ONE.

OH, OKAY.

SO WE NEED TO HAVE A, A VOTE WHETHER THERE WAS ANY DISCUSS FOR ANY DISCUSSION FOR THIS ITEM, UM, MEMBERS, UM, OR CLERK, PLEASE CALL FOR THE VOTE.

UH, ALRIGHT, IF YOU CAN PLEASE READ THE NEXT ITEM.

ITEM NUMBER THREE IS RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE AN UPDATE ON FY 26.

MEASURE A PLAN APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AS PART OF THE FY 26 ADOPTED BUDGET.

ALL RIGHT, CAN I GET A MOTION ON THIS ITEM?

[3. 25-56893 Recommendation to receive and file an update on FY 26 Measure A plan approved by the City Council as part of the FY 26 Adopted Budget. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MEMBER OCHOA AND SECONDED BY MEMBER HOWARD STAFF.

IS THERE A REPORT OR PRESENTATION FOR THIS ITEM? UH, THERE IS NO REPORT.

JUST A NOTE THAT THIS IS A REMINDER THAT THE FISCAL YEAR 26 MEASURE A PLAN WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL AS A PART OF THE FISCAL YEAR 26 ADOPTED BUDGET.

SO WE CAME TO YOU WHEN IT WAS PROPOSED AND NOW IT'S ADOPTED.

SO JUST, JUST A NOTE AND, AND IN YOUR RECORDS, IT HAS ALL THOSE REPORTS ARE THE NUMBERS THAT WERE APPROVED.

UM, OKAY.

CLERK, CAN WE PLEASE CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM? IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER THREE, PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM.

NOW, SEEING NONE, THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.

AND MEMBERS, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, UH, CLERK CALL FOR THE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES.

CAN WE PLEASE READ THE NEXT ITEM? AND WE'RE SKIPPING NUMBER FOUR AND JUMPING OVER TO NUMBER FIVE.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS POTENTIAL AGENDA ITEMS AND COMMITTEE MEETING DATES FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2026.

CAN I GET A MOTION FOR THIS ITEM?

[5. 25-56895 Recommendation to discuss potential agenda items and Committee meeting dates for calendar year 2026. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MEMBER OCHOA AND SECONDED BY MEMBER HOWER STAFF.

IS THERE A REPORT OR PRESENTATION FOR THIS ITEM? UM, I CAN TURN IT RIGHT OVER TO YOU IF YOU WANNA GO THROUGH.

SURE.

UH, THE NOTES ON THE SLIDE, THIS IS JUST THE PRESENTATION THAT WE PREPARED ON BEHALF OF THE CHAIR FOR, UH, BOTH MEETING TOPICS AND PROPOSED DATES FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2026.

AND COMPARING IT TO THE PRIOR ASSESSMENT TO SHOW WHETHER THERE'S IMPROVEMENTS ON ANY OF THE, THE DIFFERENT AREAS OR SECTIONS THAT COULD MAKE IT MORE DIGESTIBLE FOR OURSELVES.

UM, SO I, I, WE ASKED, OR STAFF ASKED EVERYONE TO KIND OF GIVE US SOME THOUGHTS AND IDEAS OF THINGS THAT WANTED TO BE DISCUSSED FOR FUTURE ITEMS. I KNOW AS, AS A GROUP, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN TALKING ABOUT ASSESSMENTS AND TRYING TO COMPARE PRIOR, UH, TAKING THE MOST RECENT ASSESSMENT

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UM, SO THAT WAS LISTED AS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE THREW ON THAT, AND I, I THINK I EVEN THREW IT UP IN ONE OF THE FUTURE MEETINGS.

THERE HAS BEEN SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE USE OF THE BOND FUNDS AND HOW ARE THEY BEING UTILIZED AND WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO BE UTILIZED.

AND ALSO, ALSO, I GUESS THERE WAS EVEN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BOND FUNDS AND WHETHER THEY WERE GONNA BE SOLD IN, IN THIS MARKET AS IT EXISTS TODAY.

UM, EQUITY AS A FACTOR IN PRIORITIZING PROJECTS, WHETHER, I KNOW THAT'S NOT A BIG DEAL FOR THE FEDERALS, BUT HERE FOR LONG BEACH AND THE WEST COAST, UH, WE STILL BELIEVE IN DIVERSITY, EQUITY, AND INCLUSION.

WE CALL IT ALL THOSE THREE THINGS.

AND SO IS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WAS FACTORED IN PRIORITIZING PROJECT PROJECTS? AND THE LAST ONE THAT I HAD HEARD THAT WE HAD LISTED DOWN WAS, UH, USAGE EVALUATION OF CITY BUILDINGS AND POTENTIAL REDUCTION IN ASSETS THAT NEED TO BE MAINTAINED.

AND I THINK WE COULD ADD THIS LAST ITEM.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE COULD ADD WHAT THE MAYOR HAS ALSO TALKED ABOUT.

UM, IT, AS AN OR AS A GROUP, CAN WE BE THAT VEHICLE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION THAT HIGHLIGHTS THE GAP OF INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS AND HELPS, UH, COME UP WITH SOME PLANS OR SOLUTIONS.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A POTENTIAL TOPIC.

UH, SO WITH THAT, I WOULD OPEN IT UP TO THE OTHER MEMBERS AND ANY THOUGHTS THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT THE FOUR THAT ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN AND, AND THEN, AND THIS FIFTH ITEM ABOUT, UH, THE, THE, WHAT, WHAT WE AS A COMMITTEE CAN DO ABOUT THE GAP OF INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING.

ANY, UM, PARTICULARLY ON, NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS NEW CHARGE FROM, UH, THE MAYOR ON THAT LAST TOPIC, MAYBE THAT IS A TOPIC THAT WE OUGHT TO HAVE A FEW MINUTES DEVOTED TO AT EVERY OF OUR, EACH ONE OF OUR MEETINGS, UM, TO, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND TO BRAINSTORM TO, UM, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS WE'LL HAVE ASKED FOR SOME RESEARCH ON SOME TOPICS FROM THE, THE STAFF.

AND SO I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST HAVING THAT BE A, A RECURRING, A RECURRING AGENDA ITEM.

UM, I I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE OKAY TO AT LEAST SAY, GIVE AN UPDATE ON IT.

BUT WOULD IT BE A POTENTIAL THAT, I KNOW LAST YEAR WHEN WE TRIED TO EDUCATE OURSELVES ABOUT, UM, THE ASSESSMENTS AND STUFF, WE HAD A WORKSHOP.

AND SO I KNOW I CAME UP WITH A LIST OF PROPOSED MEETINGS TO HAVE REGULAR CONVERSATION ON REGULAR TOPICS.

BUT SINCE THAT'S A NEW TOPIC AND IT'S KIND OF BIG PICTURE, UM, WOULD Y'ALL THINK THAT MAYBE WE WOULD WANNA, WANNA TRY TO PROPOSE TO GIVE STAFF SOME TIME TO PROCESS IT, ALLOW THEM TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THEN WE COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE A WORKSHOP ON IT SO THAT WE OURSELVES CAN BRAINSTORM AND IT, AND HOPEFULLY WHEN WE GET OUR FOURTH AND FIFTH MEMBER BACK, THEN WE CAN HAVE A DEEPER DIVE IN INTO THAT AS A GROUP.

WOULD, WOULD THAT BE A GOOD SOLUTION? THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

AND ALSO I WONDER IF, UM, THERE'S SOME WAY OF, I DON'T KNOW, FINDING OUT WHAT SOME CREATIVE SOLUTIONS THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE.

UM, THERE MUST BE A LOT OF, OF IDEAS IN THE, IN THE UNIVERSE OF, OF CITIES AND, AND THESE, EVERYBODY'S ASKING THESE SAME QUESTIONS.

UH, I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD BE OR WHERE WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO KIND OF FIND THOSE RESOURCES.

I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, GIVEN KIND OF THE TEST THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN, UM, I AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING WE PROBABLY GIVE SOME SPECIFIC TIME TO.

UM, BUT 'CAUSE IT WAS ON THE AGENDA, I WAS GONNA MENTION IT LATER, BUT IS IT SOMETHING WE MAY WANT TO WORTH, UH, CONSIDERING GIVING LIKE ITS OWN AD HOC TO KIND OF LOOK AT? OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO KEEP IT HERE WITH THE FULL, UH, GROUP? UM, UM, MY THOUGHT WOULD BE AT THE FULL GROUP TO FIRST HAVE A BIG PICTURE EDUCATION OVERVIEW AND CONVERSATION, AND THEN MAYBE WE COULD MOVE FROM THERE AND PUT AN AGENDA ITEM ON THERE TO DETERMINE WHETHER AN AD HOC COMMITTEE CAN THEN WORK ON THAT VERY SPECIFIC.

UH, IF, IF, AND I'M, I'M GONNA LEAN TOWARDS STAFF AS FAR AS PROCESS, UH, WHETHER STAFF BELIEVES THAT, UH, AS A COMMITTEE THAT WE COULD, UH, KIND OF APPROACH IT THAT MANNER WHERE WE FIRST EDUCATE OURSELVES.

'CAUSE I, I, I DO KNOW THAT A LOT OF CITIES DO PROPERTY TAXES.

I DO KNOW THAT A LOT OF CITIES PASS VERY SPECIFIC BONDS FOR VERY BIG PICTURE PROJECTS AND THEN FIGURE OUT WAYS TO PAY THEM BACK.

UM, BUT I MEAN, I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD

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WAY TO APPROACH TO START SAYING, HERE'S WHAT OTHER LOCAL SOUTHERN CITIES DO US TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION AND THEN ALLOW TWO PEOPLE TO GO IN AND, AND, AND WORK ON IT AFTERWARDS.

BUT AFTER A BIG, UH, KIND OF WHAT A WORKSHOP, INITIAL INITIAL INITIAL WORKSHOP AND THEN GO STAFF.

ANY THOUGHTS, COMMENTS? YES, KEVIN RIPER, FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR.

UM, THE COMMITTEE'S COME UP WITH A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS AND, UH, THEY'RE SUPPLEMENTARY TO WHAT I HEARD THE MAYOR SAY.

UH, I HEARD THE MAYOR SAY HE NEEDS THE, HE, HE AND THE CITY COUNCIL NEED HELP ON MEASURING THE GAP.

UM, THE, THE ITEMS SUGGESTED BY THE CHAIR ARE, ARE SUPPLEMENTARY TO THAT.

SO, UM, IF WE'RE TO COME EVEN CLOSE TO SATISFYING THE COMMITTEE'S LAUDABLE AND UNDERSTANDABLE THIRST FOR INFORMATION AND EDUCATION, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO REVAMP THE STAFF IN THE FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT.

AND THAT'S A CONVERSATION LARGER THAN ME.

SO I JUST WANT THE COMMITTEE TO BE CONSCIOUS OF THE ASK THAT YOU'RE MAKING OF STAFF.

EACH ONE OF THESE ITEMS ON THE CHAIR'S LIST IS HUNDREDS OF HOURS OF WORK BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, ESPECIALLY THE FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT AND, AND MAYBE SOME OTHERS.

UH, AND THAT'S NOT BUILT INTO OUR STAFFING LEVELS OR OUR WORK PLAN.

THEN THERE'S THE ISSUE OF THE SCOPE.

AND SO MAYBE I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO, UM, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY STONE.

HELLO.

YES.

WELL, AS WE'VE HEARD, UH, THIS AFTERNOON, UM, MAYOR RICHARDSON HAS, UM, ASKED THE, UH, BODY FOR, UH, A REQUEST TO IDENTIFY THE GAP AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO FILL IT.

YOU KNOW, JUST TO PARAPHRASE, UM, IN TERMS OF WHAT THE GOVERNING DOCUMENTS ARE FOR THIS BODY, I WOULD JUST NEED A BIT OF TIME TO SEE HOW WE CAN ENSURE THAT THERE'S ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT ADDITIONAL TASKS ARE BEING ASKED TO THE BODY COMPARED TO WHAT THE LEGAL AUTHORITY IS RIGHT NOW.

SO WE, YOU KNOW, NOT TO, NO PUN INTENDED OR MAYBE INTENDED, I LOVE A PUN, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BRIDGE THE GAP ON WHAT THE CURRENT LEGAL AUTHORITY IS TO NOW WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE MAYOR TODAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NEWS TO CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, SO WE'LL JUST HAVE TO DO A BIT OF BACKGROUND WORK.

AND I KNOW THAT THE BODY IS VOTING TODAY AS TO THE 2026 SCHEDULE.

I CANNOT SPEAK IN THIS MOMENT AS TO WHAT WILL NEED TO HAPPEN IN ORDER TO EFFECTUATE THE, YOU KNOW, IF AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE SCOPE NEEDS TO BE MADE, UM, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE VOTED ON BY THE BODY.

SO IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO BRING TO THE BODY FOR THE NEXT MEETING TO HELP EFFECTUATE WHATEVER IS NEEDED.

ACTIVITY REPORT, WHICH WE HAVE TO DO NO MATTER WHAT.

AND SO AS FAR AS THE PROCESS, YOU CAN'T, 'CAUSE I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, UH, MR. RIPER IN REGARDS TO, UH, STAFF WORK, UM, 'CAUSE I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THAT.

UH, BUT I THINK AS A, AS A, AS AS A COMMITTEE, WE DO, UM, HAVE THE AUTHORITY RIGHT NOW TO ASK ABOUT HOW MEASURE A MONIES ARE BEING SPENT.

SO I KNOW FOR THE FIRST ITEM AND THE SECOND ITEM, WE DO HAVE THAT AUTHORITY, BOTH, WHICH IS DE DEALING WITH BONDS AND DEALING WITH, WITH, UM, ASSESSMENTS BECAUSE THE BONDS ARE BEING FUNDED BY MEASURE A, WHICH IS A SOURCE OF MEASURE A.

SO MY THOUGHT WOULD BE THEN TO GIVE YOU GUYS TIME, UH, THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING WE WOULD HAVE AN UPDATE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON THE REQUEST FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND GET A CLARIFICATION ON THAT REQUEST.

AND THEN A CLARIFICATION ON WHAT THE COMMITTEE CAN AND SHOULD BE DOING.

UM, I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, OUR, GOING BACK TO THAT NEXT SLIDE OF SHOWING THE MEETINGS THAT ARE COMING FORTH, I'LL JUST MOVE TOWARDS THAT, THAT THE THOUGHT IS THAT WE WOULD MOVE TO, UH, EVERY OTHER MONTH MEETINGS, UH, SCHEDULED, REGULARLY SCHEDULED, UH, ONE IN FEBRUARY, ABOUT TWO, THREE MONTHS FROM NOW, THEN IN APRIL, AND THEN JUNE AND THEN, UH, AUGUST GOING THE, THE FIRST THURSDAY OF THE EVEN MONTH.

UH, AND THEN AFTER THE BUDGET WE WOULD JUST MEET SOMEWHERE AROUND THE SAME TIME.

UM, BUT I DID LIST, UH, SOME OF THE ITEMS AND THOUGHTS AND CONVERSATIONS.

I THINK THE, THE FIRST ONE IS, IS, IS RELATIVELY EASY.

WE'VE BEEN HAVING THAT CONVERSATION THOUGH THE, UH, ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE UPDATE ASSESSMENTS FOR THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF.

SO GETTING A SUMMARY VERY SPECIFIC TOWARDS COMPARING THE MOST RECENT ASSESSMENT TO THE PRIOR ASSESSMENT AND SHOWING YAY OR NAY, WHETHER THERE'S IMPROVEMENT OR NOT.

UM, AND THEN THE ANNUAL COMMITTEE

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THAT'S JUST LEGAL.

AND THEN, UH, GETTING AN UPDATE BY THE FIRE.

SO AS FAR AS THE AGENDAS AND THE MEETINGS LIKE THAT, UH, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT WAS GETTING IN LINE MORE TOWARDS THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND WHETHER THIS COMMITTEE CAN HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATION THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE GIVEN TO EITHER THE SUBCOMMITTEE, THE BUDGET SUBCOMMITTEE OR THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE.

BUT TO THE RIGHT OF THAT, I ASK STAFF TO LIST IN THE TIMEFRAME OF THE FIRST TWO MONTHS, WHAT IS IT THAT STAFF DOES TOWARDS BUDGET SO THAT AS WE GO ON, WE CAN ALWAYS KEEP IN MIND, HEY, HERE'S WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE CITY, UH, 2020, UH, UH, SEVEN BUDGET.

SO THAT WE CAN THEN DE DETERMINE IF IS THERE A STEP FOR US TO HAVE ADEQUATE TIME TO ACTUALLY MAKE ANY KIND OF RECOMMENDATIONS OR, UH, TO THE STAFF.

'CAUSE WE ARE THE, IT'S IN OUR TITLE, WE'RE A CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

SO IN MY MIND IT IS TO TRY TO GET INFORMATION FROM CITIZENS AND THEN PROVIDE ADVICE OR THOUGHTS, UH, IN GENERAL ABOUT HOW MEASURE A IS BEING, UH, SPENT.

SO, UH, WITH THAT, LET ME ASK IF, UH, ANY OF THE OTHER, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTION, UH, OR THOUGHTS ABOUT A, THE FIVE COMMITTEE PROPOSED BUDGET OR THE FIVE PROPOSED COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND THEN APPROACHING THE, AT LEAST AT A MINIMUM, THE TWO TOPICS OF INFRASTRUCTURE ASSESSMENT COMPARISON, AND THEN UNDERSTANDING THE BONDS AND THEN ADDING THAT THIRD ITEM OF, UM, THE MAYOR'S, UH, UH, REQUEST.

YOU'RE GOODA.

MM-HMM .

SO THEN, UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I GUESS WE CAN JUST MOVE ON WITH ACTUALLY VOTING FOR THE COMMITTEE MEETING DATES AS LISTED.

AND AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THE TOPICS ARE PRESENTED AS, AND IF WE NEED TO MODIFY THE NEXT ONE, WE WOULD MODIFY IT AT THE MEETING BEFORE.

DOES THAT WORK? OKAY.

ALRIGHT, SO, UH, CLERK, I GUESS WE WANNA CALL FOR A VOTE.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO CALL PUBLIC COMMENT? OH, BEFORE WE CALL VOTE OH, DO NOT CALL.

COMMENT.

PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE.

FIRST, IF ANY OF THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM.

NOW, SEEING NONE THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.

MEMBERS, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? AND WE JUST DID THAT AND SO PLEASE CALL FOR A VOTE.

THE VOTE SCREEN.

YEAH, THERE YOU GO.

MINE'S TAKING A LITTLE WHILE.

SO IF YOU CAN PLEASE READ THE NEXT ITEM.

ITEM NUMBER SIX IS RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A REPORT FROM CURRENT AD HOC COMMITTEE.

DISCUSS ANTICIPATED AD AD HOC COMMITTEES FOR UPCOMING PROJECTS AND IF APPROPRIATE, TAKE ACTION TO DISSOLVE OR CREATE AD HOC COMMITTEES.

AND CAN I GET A MOTION ON THIS ITEM?

[6. 25-56896 Recommendation to receive and file a report from current Ad Hoc Committee; discuss anticipated Ad Hoc Committees for upcoming projects; and, if appropriate, take action to dissolve or create Ad Hoc Committees. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

IT'S JUST STANDARD PRACTICE TO HAVE, UM, AN AGENDIZED ITEM FOR THAT.

IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MEMBER HOWARD AND SECONDED BY MEMBER OCHOA.

UM, I ASKED STAFF TO GIVE A REPORT ON THIS ONE 'CAUSE I WASN'T AWARE OF THIS UNTIL THIS, THE FINAL AGENDA CAME TO ME.

SO I THINK SHE, SHE WAS GONNA ASK YOU, THE CITY ATTORNEY, IS THERE A QUESTION WHY THIS CAME UP? SO ON THE ORIGINAL AGENDA THAT WE HAD APPROVED AND PUT ON THIS ITEM WASN'T THERE.

SO UNTIL THE FINAL AGENDA CAME OUT, IT CAME UP AND I WAS LIKE, WHAT IS IT FOR? WHAT'S THE INTENT? I WENT TO GO LOOK TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY MATERIAL WRITTEN, BUT NOTHING.

SO AS THE CHAIR, I WAS JUST SURPRISED THAT IT WAS PUT ON AND THAT I WAS NOT AT LEAST INFORMED AS TO WHAT THE ITEM IS FOR AND WHY WE NEED TO HAVE IT.

SURE.

SO THIS IS INTENDED TO BE STANDARD LANGUAGE.

THERE IS CURRENTLY AN AD HOC, SO YOU ALWAYS WANNA HAVE A, AN AGENDA ITEM THAT IS BASICALLY JUST HAVING A CHECK-IN FOR THE AD HOC BECAUSE YOU DID NOT DISSOLVE IT.

SO IT EXISTS.

SO JUST AS A STANDARD PRACTICE, YOU WANT TO HAVE, UM, AN IZED ITEM THAT IS ACKNOWLEDGING THE AD HOC, IF THERE'S ANY REPORTING FROM IT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S LIKELY QUIET BECAUSE OF JUST THE NATURE OF IT, THAT YOU HAVEN'T DONE ANY WORK SINCE THE LAST MEETING, BUT IT EXISTS.

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SO IF THERE'S NOTHING TO REPORT FROM THE AD HOC, THEN SO BE IT.

BUT ALSO THE IDEA OF, UH, AN AD HOC FOR THE GAP ISSUE CAME UP TOO.

AND SO IT'S PREMATURE TO CREATE THAT AD HOC, BUT THIS WOULD BE, UH, A MOMENT, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE TO CREATE THAT IN THE EVENT THAT IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.

AND WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE AS PART OF THE PROCESS SINCE I BELIEVE THE AD HOC COMMITTEE WAS SET UP AND ESTABLISHED TO WRITE A RECOMMENDATION FOR 2025 THAT DID OCCUR AND IT WAS THE TASK WAS COMPLETED AND THAT WAS THE TASK, THEN DO WE HAVE TO FORMALLY DISSOLVE THE AD HOC COMMITTEE? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME? IT YEAH, IT WAS NOT DISSOLVED.

SO WE NEED TO FORMALLY DISSOLVE IT.

YOU CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, IT IS THE AD HOC TO WORK ON THE LETTER THAT IS GOING TO CITY COUNCIL, SO THAT'S SORT OF A ONGOING TASK FOR THE COMMITTEE.

YOU CAN DISSOLVE IT AND PICK IT BACK UP IF YOU SO CHOOSE.

IT COULD BE AN ONGOING THING, BUT IT EXISTS RIGHT NOW.

CAN, CAN WE LEAVE THIS AGENDA ITEM ON AND THEN REPURPOSE THIS AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR OTHER TOPICS, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT THE MAYOR WAS TALKING ABOUT OR IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT COMES UP RATHER THAN HAVING TO GO THROUGH AND AND PUT IT ON AN ANOTHER, A FUTURE AGENDA TO FORM AN AD HOC.

CAN WE JUST CARRY IT FORWARD? YES.

THIS WILL BE A STANDING OKAY.

AGENDA ITEM, UHHUH, JUST TO ADDRESS ANY AD HOC BUSINESS.

OH, SO THIS WOULD SAVE US A STEP IN THE FUTURE THEN IF WE, IF WE JUST LEFT THIS ON AS A PLACEHOLDER IN THE AGENDA? YEAH, MY ANSWER IS YES TO THAT.

BUT IF WE KNOW MORE SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO THIS YES.

THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS YES.

YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SUGGEST TO CREATE AN AD HOC UNDER THIS AGENDA ITEM.

SO THEN I GUESS WE WOULD JUST SAY THAT THERE IS NO, UH, NOTHING TO REPORT BACK FROM THE AD HOC COMMITTEE AND THEN WE WOULD CLOSE IT.

YEP, THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

UM, CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS? IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER SIX, PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM.

NOW.

SEEING NONE THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM MEMBERS, IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? OKAY, CLERK, PLEASE CALL FOR THE VOTE MEMBER HOUR.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A VERBAL VOTE, I CAN TAKE THAT APPROVED.

MOTION CARRIES.

OKAY, IF WE CAN PLEASE READ THE LAST ITEM AND WE GOT, WE GOT 30 MINUTES.

YAY.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE AN UPDATE OF MEASURE A INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.

CAN I GET A MOTION ON THIS ITEM? WHEW.

[4. 25-56894 Recommendation to receive and file an update of Measure A infrastructure projects. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

TO THE SCALE OF THE WORK TO DATE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE DIRT ALLEYS IDENTIFIED IN THE ORIGINAL MEASURE.

IT'S BEEN MOVED BY MEMBER OSHOA AND SECONDED BY MEMBER O.

UH, HELLO.

HOWER.

OH, I WAS GONNA SAY O HOWER STAFF.

IS THERE A REPORTER PRESENTATION FOR THIS ITEM? , THERE CERTAINLY IS.

EXCUSE ME.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

UH, CHAIR CRUZ AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

JONATHAN BOLEN, BUSINESS OPERATIONS BUREAU MANAGER FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS.

TODAY WE'LL REVIEW THE INVESTMENT MEASURE ARRAYS MADE IN OUR CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE SINCE 2017.

AND JOINING ME TODAY IS ANNA DENDA, OUR CAPITAL BUDGET OFFICER KEITH HOEY, OUR CITY ENGINEER, AND MARILYN REIKIS, OUR PROJECT MANAGEMENT BUREAU OFFICER.

I DO NEED A CLICKER.

I GOT IT.

PERFECT.

ALRIGHT.

TO DATE OVER $405 MILLION OF MEASURE A HAS BEEN COMMITTED TOWARDS INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS BETWEEN FY 17 AND FY 26 IS ADOPTED BUDGET.

HERE ARE SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED THROUGHOUT THE CITY WITH MEASURE A'S INVESTMENT 63 PARK PLAYGROUNDS, COMMUNITY CENTERS AND PARK FACILITIES HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.

OVER 605 LANE MILES OF STREETS HAVE BEEN REPAIRED.

APPROXIMATELY 347 LANE MILES OF STREETS HAVE BEEN BEEN SLURRY SEALED.

UH, THE DEPARTMENT DOES PLAN TO SLURRY SEAL OVER 500 LANE MILES THROUGH FY 27.

OVER 22 LANE MILES OF ALLEYS HAVE BEEN REHABILITATED, OF WHICH 5.9 MILES WERE FORMALLY DIRT IN 20 AND FY 25 2 0.2 MILES OF ALLEYS HAVE BEEN REHABILITATED OVER 2.06.

1 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF SIDEWALKS HAVE BEEN REPLACED.

3,800 CURB RAMPS HAVE BEEN REPLACED, INCLUDING 247 AND FY 25 AND 38.

PUBLIC FACILITY PROJECTS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED, INCLUDING SEVEN FIRE STATION PROJECTS, 11 HEALTH AND PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECTS, AND 11 LIBRARY PROJECTS.

MANY MOBILITY PROJECTS ARE ONGOING DUE

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A PLAN HAVE BEEN COMPLETED ALONG WITH 79% OF THE ARTERIAL STREETS AND 98% OF RESIDENTIAL STREETS.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW MOBILITY PROJECTS COMPLETED IN THE PAST MONTH.

UH, I DO WANNA MENTION THAT WHILE THERE WERE NO ARTERIAL MAJOR STREET PROJECTS COMPLETED SINCE OUR LAST CAC PRESENTATION, THREE ARTERIAL PROJECTS FUNDED WITH MEASURE A ARE ANTICIPATED TO BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF CALENDAR YEAR 2025.

THESE INCLUDE LONG BEACH BOULEVARD, UH, ATLANTIC, UH, RETAINING WALL IMPROVEMENTS AND CHERRY AVENUE.

THERE ARE SEVERAL ARTERIAL STREET PROJECTS CURRENTLY IN CONSTRUCTION AND ENTERING CONSTRUCTION IN THE COMING MONTHS, BUT THEY ARE NOT FUNDED BY MISRE.

THIS MAP REPRESENTS THE 23 TO 27 PLANNED STREET IMPROVEMENTS WITH STREETS IN GREEN COMPLETED TO DATE.

THIS MAP IS UPDATED EVERY QUARTER AS MORE AND MORE STREET PROJECTS ARE COMPLETED.

IN REGARDS TO THE CURRENT FY 23 TO FY 27 INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN, 99% OF ALLEYS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.

53% OF RESIDENTIAL STREETS, 26% OF ARTERIAL STREETS, AND NEARLY 75% OF OUR SLURRY SEAL STREETS IDENTIFY IN THE PLAN.

HERE'S A RECENTLY COMPLETED CURB BRAND PROJECT AT BROADWAY AVENUE NEAR THE CIVIC CENTER.

THIS SLIDE IS MISLABELED JUST FYI.

THERE'S SOME BEFORE AND AFTER.

HERE IS A RECENTLY COMPLETED CURB BRAND PROJECT.

THIS IS AT ATHERTON AND ASHBROOK.

YOU CAN SEE PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS NO CROSSWALK, NO MEDIAN DIVIDER, WHERE NOW A CROSSWALK AND A MEDIAN HAVE BEEN INSTALLED TO ENSURE SAFE CRA SAFE PASSAGE ACROSS THIS STREET.

HERE ARE SOME RECENTLY COMPLETED CURB RAMP PROJECTS.

JUST GONNA CLICK THROUGH THESE QUICKLY FOR TIME.

HERE ARE SOME RECENTLY COMPLETED SIDEWALK PROJECTS.

THIS ONE ALONG EAST BIXBY.

HERE'S ANOTHER ONE ON STERNLY.

AND HERE'S ONE MORE ON GAVITA.

UM, IN 20, IN FY 2025 THE DEPARTMENT ADDED THE IN-HOUSE CONCRETE CREW CONSISTING SOLELY OF PUBLIC WORK STAFF PERFORMING SMALL CONCRETE REPAIRS, UH, RATHER THAN OUR TRADITIONAL ON-CALL CONTRACTOR WHO HANDLES OUR MORE, UH, BLOCK BY BLOCK, UH, TYPE JOBS.

I'M GOING TO BRIEFLY SHOW PHOTOS OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS EMPLOYEES IN ACTION.

AND THIS CONCRETE CREW IS FUNDED A HUNDRED PERCENT.

UH, THROUGH MEASURE A.

THIS TEAM IS ABLE TO RESPOND TO CRITICAL YET SMALLER CONCRETE REPAIRS.

SAVING THE CITY FUNDING AS UTILIZING THE ESTABLISHED CONTRACTOR FOR THESE CRITICAL ONE-OFF REPAIRS IS NOT ALWAYS FEASIBLE AND AT TIMES COST PROHIBITIVE.

AND NOW HERE ARE A FEW RECENTLY COMPLETED RESIDENTIAL STREETS.

THIS ONE ON CARTENA BEFORE AND AFTER.

HERE'S ANOTHER BEFORE AND AFTER RESIDENTIAL STREET ON CONANT.

HERE'S ONE MORE ON FALCON GARDENIA.

GAVITA GUNDRY, ANOTHER ONE AT GUNDRY KEEVER WALNUT.

AND THAT'S THE RESIDENTIAL STREETS.

THE TEAM HAS BEEN AT VERY HARD WORK, AND I JUST WANNA SAY THESE ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT ALL OF THE, ALL OF THE STREETS COMPLETED IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS.

HERE'S SOME OF OUR PICTURES OF OUR CRACK AND SLURRY SEAL TEAM.

SO AGAIN, OUR RESIDENTIAL STREET TEAM, UH, IS, UH, FULL GRIND AND OVERLAY REHABILITATION PROGRAM WHERE OUR CRACK AND SLURRY SEAL STREET TEAM IS PUBLIC WORKS, UH, STAFF.

AND, UH, THEY'RE DOING THE CRACK AND SLURRY SEAL TREATMENTS.

HERE'S BEFORE AND AFTER ON SAN ANTONIO.

AND HERE'S ANOTHER ONE ON BIXBY.

THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT BUREAU HAS DELIVERED SEVERAL SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT EL DORADO PARK.

I DO WANT TO QUICKLY HIGHLIGHT THE EL DORADO PARK PAVING WAY FINDING AND PARKING IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.

THIS PROJECT SUPPORTED MAJOR REFU RESURFACING AND RE PAVEMENT OF INTERNAL PARK ROADS IN THE PARKING LOTS AT EL DORADO PARK.

THE PHASED WORK IS THE CONSTRUCTION WAS COMPLETED IN SPRING OF THIS YEAR FOR, UH, THE LOTS AND ROADS, UH, LOCATED IN EL DORADO.

EAST CONSTRUCTION WAS SUBSEQUENTLY COMPLETED IN EARLY OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR FOR PHASE THREE, WHICH IS THE WEST BALLFIELD PARKING LOT AND FUTURE WORK PHASE FOUR WILL REPAVE THE ARCHERY RANGE ROAD NORTH OF SPRING STREET.

JUST SOME BEFORE AND AFTERS DEMONSTRATING THAT WORK.

AND HERE ARE SOME CYCLISTS.

UH, I BELIEVE WE COMPLETED THIS PROJECT JUST WITHIN A FEW DAYS OF, UH, OF A CYCLING, UH, EVENT AT THE PARK.

OUR PUBLIC SERVICE BUREAU HAS BEEN INSTALLING SOLAR POWERED LED STREETLIGHT FIXTURES IN AREAS THAT HAVE EXPERIENCED REPEATED THEFT OF COPPER WIRE.

AS THESE FIXTURES DO NOT NEED TO BE WIRED TO THE ELECTRICAL UTILITY TO FUNCTION, THERE IS NO COPPER WIRE AVAILABLE.

AND HERE ARE SOME, UH, PHOTOS OF THOSE LIGHTS.

BEFORE WE GO INTO THE OTHER CIP SECTIONS, I DID WANNA HIGHLIGHT THE OFFICIAL GROUNDBREAKING OF THE STUDEBAKER ROAD TRANSFORMATION PROJECT, WHICH TOOK PLACE ON SEPTEMBER 23RD.

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I KNOW WE'VE, WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS PROJECT IN LENGTH, UM, BUT THIS, UH, THIS $64 MILLION PROJECT IS FUNDED BY A VARIETY OF FUNDING SOURCES, INCLUDING EIGHT AND A HALF MILLION OF MEASURE A FUNDING.

63 PARKS PROJECTS FUNDED WITH MEASURE A HAVE BEEN COMPLETED TO DATE.

THEY ARE LISTED HERE.

THIS TOTALS OVER $48.3 MILLION IN MEASURE A FUNDING.

UH, PARK PROJECTS COMPLETED SINCE THE LAST TIME.

UH, WE PRESENTED TO THIS COMMITTEE, UH, ARE HIGHLIGHTED HERE AND WE'RE GONNA GO INTO 'EM.

BIXBY PARK, BANDSHELL AND PARK IMPROVEMENTS.

EL DORADO SPORTS FIELDS, GREEN BELT HEIGHTS, WALKING PATH, MACARTHUR PARK REHABILITATION, MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.

PARK POOL RENOVATION AND BOTH RAMONA PARK AND SILVERADO PARK RECEIVED SIGNATURE PLAYGROUNDS.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS ALL JUST IN THE PAST, UH, THREE OR FOUR MONTHS.

HERE'S BIXBY PARK, UH, THIS NEW BAND SHELL STAGE, IMPROVED PAVING AND A DA COMPLIANT RESTROOM ACCESS.

UH, TWO NEW A DA COMPLIANT PICNIC TABLES PAVEMENT IMPROVEMENT TO, UH, ADDRESS SAFETY AND ACCESSIBILITY.

NEW HYDRATION STATION, A NEW SECURITY CAMERA, AND ENHANCED LIGHTING.

THE EL DORADO SPART SPORTS FIELD IMPROVEMENT PROJECT IS PART OF A LARGER INITIATIVE TO UPGRADE AND RE REVITALIZE EL DORADO PARK.

THIS PROJECT CONSISTED OF IMPROVEMENTS TO THE YOUTH, SOFTBALL AND BASEBALL FIELDS AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS.

SOME IMPROVEMENTS SHOWN HERE.

UH, THIS DOES INCLUDE, UH, NEW CONCRETE PADS AROUND THE SWING.

GATES REPLACED, UH, WATER FOUNTAINS AND HYDRATION STATIONS, REFRESHED AMENITIES AT FIELDS FIVE AND SIX, INCLUDING FRESH PAINT CHAIN LINK FENCE, WOOD BACK BOARDS, DUGOUT BENCHES, NETTING, SIDELINE FENCING, YELLOW TOPPER PADS AND BACKSTOP PADS, AS WELL AS, UH, NEW INDIVIDUALLY ACCESSIBLE GENDER NEUTRAL RESTROOM STALLS.

THE GREEN BELT HEIGHTS, OH, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

WALKING PATH.

FEATURES A RENOVATED DECOMPOSED GRANITE WALKING PATH SURFACE.

NEW CONTAINMENT CURBS TO STABILIZE A PATHWAY AND A NEW BOLLARD AT THE NORTH ENTRANCE.

THESE UPGRADES REESTABLISH THE PATH'S A DA COMPLIANCE AND FACILITATE A SAFER AND ENJOYABLE WALKING EXPERIENCE.

HERE'S MACARTHUR PARK REHABILITATION PROJECT.

THIS PROJECT BROUGHT MAJOR RENOVATIONS TO THE ENTIRE PARK, THE SPORTS COURT'S, GREEN SPACE'S, PICNIC AREAS, AND PLAYGROUND.

UH, TO CREATE A PLACE OF GATHERING AND PLAY FOR THE CAMBODIA TOWN NEIGHBORHOOD AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.

THE PARK FEATURES DESIGN CUES FROM THE LANDSCAPE, UM, ARCHITECTURE OF CAMBODIA AND SOUTHEAST ASIA, AS WELL AS ACCESSIBLE PLAY EQUIPMENT, SEATING AREAS, AND THOUGHTFULLY PLACE FENCING TO ENHANCE, ENHANCE SAFETY, A WALKING PATH WITH EXERCISE EQUIPMENT, NEW PICNIC AREAS, AND IMPROVE LANDSCAPING AND BASKETBALL COURTS FURTHER IMPROVES THE VISITOR EXPERIENCE AS WELL AS A NEW PLAYGROUND.

DUNNO IF I MENTIONED THAT.

THE MARTIN LUTHER KING JR.

POOL PROJECT ADDRESSED KEY NEEDS FOR SAFETY, ACCESSIBILITY, AND MODERN INFRASTRUCTURE.

UH, THIS INCLUDED A NEW BATTERY POWERED LIFT FOR THE SWIMMING POOL AND LEARNING POOL, UH, POOL DECK REPAIRS AND NEW WATERPROOF, WATERPROOF COATING, SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCING A SLIP AND FALL RISK.

NEW HANDRAILS, SMOOTHER POOL PLASTER REFURBISHED DIVING STANDS AND UPGRADED UNDERWATER LIGHTING AND FILTRATION, CIRCULATION AND HEATING SYSTEM UPGRADES TO, TO ENSURE CLEANER SAFETY AND MORE EFFICIENT OPERATIONS.

RAMONA PARK SIGNATURE PLAYGROUND PROVIDED TWO NEW AGE APPROPRIATE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENTS, SITE FURNISHINGS, MISTERS, AND AN INVITING ENVIRONMENT FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND HERE, I BELIEVE THOSE ARE THE MISTERS IN ACTION RIGHT THERE TO KEEP THE THE KIDS NICE AND COOL.

SILVERADO PARK SIGNATURE PLAYGROUND WAS ALSO COMPLETED.

IT FEATURES NEW INCLUSIVE PLAY EQUIPMENT AND SITE FURNISHINGS DESIGNED FOR A DA COMPLIANT AMENITIES.

THE PLAYGROUND ENCOURAGES SENSORY, PHYSICAL, AND IMAGINATIVE PLAY WITH TWO DISTINCT AREAS FOR PRESCHOOLERS AND SCHOOL-AGED CHILDREN.

INSPIRED BY THE PARKS MURAL, WE ARE THE SEEDS BY MURR YOUNG.

THE DESIGN REP REFLECTS ITS VIBRANT COLORS AND THEME.

ALL RIGHT, HUH? 13 PUBLIC SAFETY INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED TO DATE LISTING HERE.

THIS TOTALS NEARLY $10 MILLION AND 25 OTHER PUBLIC FACILITY PROJECTS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED TO DATE LISTED HERE.

THIS TOTALS OVER $13.5 MILLION.

UH, PUBLIC FACILITY PROJECTS COMPLETED SINCE THE LAST TIME WE PRESENTED INCLUDE ALAMITOS LIBRARY IMPROVEMENTS, BURNETT LIBRARY IMPROVEMENTS, MARK TWAIN LIBRARY IMPROVEMENTS, AND THE YOUTH NAVIGATION CENTER.

THE ALAMEDAS LIBRARY HAS SERVED AS A HUB IN THE ALAMEDAS COMMUNITY FOR NEARLY A HUNDRED YEARS.

THE BUILDING OPENS ITS DOOR, OPENED ITS DOORS IN 1929, MAKING IT THE OLDEST BRANCH IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH'S LIBRARY SYSTEM.

THESE IMPROVEMENTS WERE FOCUSED ON THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OF WOOD DOORS AND WINDOWS, AS WELL AS THE GUTTERS AND POSTS.

THE BURNETT LIBRARY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FUNDED CRITICAL REPAIR REPAIRS AND ENERGY EFFICIENCY IMPROVEMENTS.

PROJECT SCOPE FOCUSED ON FACILITY ROOF AND HVAC REPLACEMENT.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE NEW HVAC UNIT RIGHT THERE.

ALL SHINY MARK TWAIN.

THE PREVIOUS HVAC SYSTEM HAD REACHED THE END OF ITS LIFE AND WAS REPLACED, UH, WITH THE ROOFTOP MECHANICAL SYSTEM.

AND LASTLY, THE YOUTH

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NAVIGATION CENTER IS THE CITY OF LONG BEACH'S FIRST EVER PERMANENT SHELTER FOR YOUTH EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.

THE CENTER PROVIDES SHELTER SUPPORT SERVICES, ONSITE CASE MANAGEMENT, AND OTHER AMENITIES FOR YOUTH AGES 18 TO 24, INCLUDING 12 SHELTER BEDS.

AND IF THAT WASN'T ENOUGH, WE DO HAVE SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE ANTICIPATED TO BE COMPLETED BY THIS UPCOMING SPRING.

THAT INCLUDES 14TH STREET PARK LIGHTING AND PLAYGROUND IMPROVEMENTS.

COLORADO LAGOON OPEN CHANNEL RESTORATION ARE BRAND NEW FIRE STATION NINE.

AND THE MAIN HEALTH GENERATOR PROJECT AS BRIEFLY DISCUSSED, UH, SHOWN HERE IS THE FY 26 ADOPTED MEASURE A FUNDING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.

I DO WANNA JUST NOTE NOTHING HAS CHANGED FROM WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED AT THE LAST MEETING AND ONCE A YEAR DURING THE FALL.

CAC MEASURE A BUDGET TRANSFERS ARE OUTLINED.

THEY ARE LISTED HERE, UH, FOR THE TRANSFERS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025.

STAFF ROUTINELY CLOSE OUT, COMPLETED MEASURE A PROJECTS AND ANY BUDGET SURPLUSES ARE REPURPOSED TO OTHER EXISTING MEASURE A PROJECTS.

ADDITIONALLY, TRANSFERS FROM THE CRITICAL RESERVE TO MEASURE A PROJECTS ARE LISTED AS WELL.

THIS SLIDE INCLUDES TRANSFERS, UH, FROM CRITICAL RESERVES TO FUND VARIOUS IMPROVEMENTS AT CITY OWNED FACILITIES.

TRANSFERS WITHIN CIP PROGRAMS, ALLOCATING FUNDS FROM PROGRAMMATIC EARMARKS TO SPECIFIC PROJECTS, AS WELL AS TRANSFERS, UM, TO FULLY FUND PROJECTS SUCH AS DRAKE PARK COMMUNITY CENTER, ATLANTIC AVENUE, RETAINING WALL REPAIR, FIRE STATION 14 MAIN HEALTH GENERATOR, MAIN HEALTH ROOF, AND HVAC.

AND OUR PROJECT HOME KEY PROJECT AT 59 50 LONG BEACH BOULEVARD, WHICH WAS ACTUALLY COMPLETED, UH, AFTER THIS PRESENTATION WAS PUT TOGETHER.

SO WE'LL MAKE SURE TO PRESENT ON THAT PROJECT AT THE NEXT UPDATE.

AND JUST LASTLY, I WANTED TO GIVE, UH, GIVE THE COMMITTEE AN UPDATE, UM, ON THE MOST RECENT PAYMENT CONDITION INDEX RESULTS.

SO AS PREVIOUSLY COMMITTED, UH, COMMUNICATED THE CITY STUDIES, ITS PCI ON A REGULAR BASIS, AND WE DEVELOP OUR PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PLAN BASED ON THOSE RESULTS.

MAINTAINING A MINIMUM NETWORK AVERAGE PCI OF 60 AND A BACKLOG BELOW 15% IS PREFERRED TO AVOID LONG-TERM COSTLY REPAIR, UH, AND TO MAINTAIN THE CITY'S ROAD NETWORK.

SO IN 2025, EVERY STREET IN THE CITY WAS INSPECTED AND THE AVERAGE PCI SCORE WAS UPDATED.

THE UPDATED STREET NETWORK AVERAGE PCI IS NOW 61, WHICH IS A 9% IMPROVEMENT FROM OUR PREVIOUS SCORE OF 2023, OR SORRY, OUR PREVIOUS SCORE OF 56, WHICH WAS CAPTURED IN 2023.

THIS ALSO EXCEEDS THE TARGET PCI RATING OF 60.

THE NEW FINDINGS ARE 15% OF THE CITY STREETS ARE IN EXCELLENT CONDITION.

38% OF THE CITY STREETS ARE IN GOOD TO VERY GOOD.

26% ARE MARGINAL TO FAIR AND 20% ARE IN POOR OR VERY POOR.

THAT LAST POOR OR VERY POOR, THAT'S ACTUALLY A 13% DECREASE.

AND JUST SO WE'RE ALL SPEAKING THE SAME LANGUAGE, THAT MEANS IT WAS A 33%.

A THIRD OF OUR STREETS, UH, IN 2023 WERE MARKED IN POOR OR VERY POOR.

AND NOW IT'S A FIFTH.

UH, AN INVESTMENT OF $1.4 BILLION OVER FIVE YEARS IS REQUIRED TO FIX ALL OF THE CITY'S MAJOR AND MINOR STREETS, OR $280 MILLION ANNUALLY FROM FY 23 TO 25.

AN AVERAGE OF 63 MILLION HAS BEEN ALLOCATED ANNUALLY, WHICH IS THE LARGEST INVESTMENT IN RECENT HISTORY, BUT ONLY REPRESENTS 22% OF OUR NEEDED ANNUAL INVESTMENT.

MAJOR STREETS, UH, OUR ARTERIALS OVERALL.

THE PCI RATING THERE IS 66, WHICH IS UP 8% FROM OUR PREVIOUS 2023 SCORE OF 61.

OUR MINOR STREETS OVERALL, PCI RATING IS 60, WHICH IS UP 11% FROM THE PREVIOUS 2023 SCORE OF 54 ALLEY'S.

OVERALL.

P-C-P-C-I RATING SCORE IS ACTUALLY DOWN TO 41, WHICH IS DOWN 18% FROM THE PREVIOUS 2023 SCORE OF 50.

AND WHILE THE DEPARTMENT HAS MADE NOTABLE PROGRESS, UH, INVESTING $4.2 MILLION IN ALLEY IMPROVEMENTS FROM FY 23 TO 25 AND COMPLETING NEARLY 23 LANE MILES OF REHABILITATION, ADDITIONAL FUNDING IS ESSENTIAL TO IMPROVE THE OVERALL CONDITION OF THE CITY'S ALLEY NETWORK.

AND I BELIEVE I SHOWED THIS TABLE, UH, TO THIS COMMITTEE BEFORE, BUT JUST WANTED TO, UH, TO JUST IN THE CONTEXT OF OUR PCI, UM, THIS IS AN OUTLINE OF, OF WHERE THE CITY INVESTED 30 YEARS AGO IN ARTERIAL AND RESIDENTIAL STREETS AND WHERE WE'RE INVESTING TODAY.

UM, JUST QUICKLY STEPPING THROUGH TO, TO GET TO, TO WHAT THAT MEANS.

SO IN 23 TO 25 CIP ALLOCATIONS IN ARTERIAL STREETS WERE 350 TIMES HIGHER THAN THE 93 95 ALLOCATIONS EVEN WHEN ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION.

WHEREAS THE RESIDENTIAL STREETS IN 23 TO 25 CIP ALLOCATIONS WERE ACTUALLY 13 1,396 OR 14 TIMES HIGHER THAN THE 93 TO 95 ALLOCATIONS AGAIN WHEN ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION.

THIS SLIDE OUTLINES THE PAST 10 YEARS OF MOBILITY AND SAFETY.

CIP BUDGETS.

FY 16 TOTALED JUST 27.7 MILLION FOR THE ENTIRE MOBILITY AND SAFETY

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CIP, WHEREAS FY 25 MOBILITY AND SAFETY CIP BUDGET TOTALED 104 MILLION NEARLY FOUR TIMES THE INVESTMENT JUST 10 YEARS PRIOR.

AND THEN I DO WANNA BRIEFLY HIGHLIGHT THE SUCCESS OF OUR IN-HOUSE GRANT IN-HOUSE GRANTS ADMINISTRATION TEAM.

SINCE ITS CREATION IN FY 23, OUR PUBLIC WORKS GRANTS ADMINISTRATION TEAM HAS SECURED $98 MILLION IN GRANT FUNDING, OF WHICH 88.6 MILLION ARE SPECIFICALLY FOR MOBILITY AND SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE AN ADDITIONAL SIX GRANTS IN THE APPLICATION PHASE, TOTALING OVER 460 MILLION, BUT I ACTUALLY BELIEVE IT'S CLOSER TO 560 NOW.

UM, AND THEN LASTLY, UH, OVER THE, OVER THE PAST FISCAL YEARS, THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS HAS GROWN ADDING KEY ENGINEERING AND PROJECT MANAGEMENT STAFF POSITIONS TO SUPPORT EXPANDING ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS.

UM, WE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE BEGAN THIS ELEVATE 28 INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN, WE REALIZED WE WOULD NEED TO GROW OUR STAFF.

AND WE DID IN A PROGRESSIVE WAY BETWEEN 23 AND 25.

THE RECENT STREET CIP AUDIT DID CONFIRM THAT OUR STAFFING LEVELS ARE SUFFICIENT, WHICH VALIDATES OUR, UH, DEPARTMENT'S DELIBERATE AND PHASED APPROACH INTO CREATING ADDITIONAL CAPACITY.

AND I AM NOT GONNA GO IN IN DEPTH HERE.

UM, THE, THE CITY OF LONG BEACH MOVED FROM A TRADITIONAL GRIND OVERLAY METHOD OF ADDRESSING PAYMENT ISSUES TO A COMPLETE STREETS APPROACH.

UM, AND WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT WHEN WE'RE, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT AN ARTERIAL STREET, WE'RE LOOKING AT CREATING A STREET THAT'S SAFE FOR ALL USERS, INCLUDING BICYCLISTS, MOTORCYCLISTS, UM, MOTORISTS, PUBLIC TRANSIT VEHICLES, SCHOOL BUSES, EMERGENCY RESPONDERS, MOBILITY DEVICES, AND PEDESTRIANS OF ALL AGES.

UM, IE NOT JUST ALWAYS A SIMPLE GRIND OVERLAY.

AND WHILE A COMPLETE STREETS APPROACH DOES SUPPORT, SUPPORT LONG-TERM GENERATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS, IT ALSO EXPANDS THE PROJECT SCOPE, SCHEDULE AND COST.

UM, MAJOR PROJECTS TYPICALLY REQUIRE MULTI-YEAR FUNDING ACCUMULATIONS.

FOR EXAMPLE, A CORRIDOR PROJECT CAN COST AS HIGH AS $60 MILLION.

UM, WHILE OUR ANNUAL LOCAL ALLOCATIONS FOR, UH, FUNDING FOR OUR ROADS CAN OUT, CAN AVERAGE 15 MILLION.

UM, SO WE DO HAVE TO LEAN, LEAN ON OUR EXTERNAL GRANT FUNDING SOURCES.

AND THEN I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT THE SUCCESS OF OUR IN-HOUSE CRACK AND SLURRY SEAL TEAM AND THE VITAL ROLE IT PLAYED, UM, IN OUR COST-EFFECTIVE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE STRATEGY.

UH, THE CITYWIDE IMPROVEMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL STREETS THAT WE'VE SEEN INCREASING IN THE PCI IS DIRECTLY ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE EFFECTIVENESS OF OUR CITY'S IN-HOUSE CRACK AND SLURRY SEAL PROGRAM.

AND THE SUCCESS OF THIS PROGRAM REALLY UNDERSCORES THE VALUE, UH, OF CONTINUED AND EXPANDING INVESTMENT, UM, BOTH IN OUR, UH, CIP PROGRAMS, BUT ALSO BUILDING UP OUR IN-HOUSE STAFF CAPABILITIES.

AND WITH THAT, I'M ABLE TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, ALLEYS, UM, I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE LIFE OF A RE REHABILITATED ALLEY IS A LOT LONGER THAN THE LIFE OF A ARTERIAL STREET OR A RESIDENTIAL STREET BECAUSE THEY GET SO MUCH LESS TRAFFIC.

IS THAT CORRECT? UH, CAN I INTERRUPT REAL FIRST? 'CAUSE SHOULD I CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST JUST TO GET IT OUTTA THE WAY AND THEN IT'S YOUR CALL.

WE CAN ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS AT THE PRESENTATION AT THIS TIME, BUT IF YOU WOULD PREFER TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST, THAT'S NO, NO, NO, LET'S GO.

I LIKE THE CLARIFYING.

THAT'S CORRECT.

KNOW A SPECIFIC PERCENTAGE.

AND WE DO HAVE KEITH HOWEY, OUR CITY ENGINEER, WHO CAN TALK ALL ABOUT ALLEYS IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.

YES.

HI.

UH, SO YEAH, AN ALLEY IS EXPECTED TO HAVE A LONGER LIFESPAN, ONE FOR LESS TRAFFIC, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, BUT ALSO OUR ALLEYS ARE MOSTLY PAVED IN CONCRETE, WHICH IS MORE DURABLE THAN ASPHALT.

AND SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALLEYS REAL QUICK, I A I ACTUALLY DID HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT TOO.

IT WAS SURPRISING 'CAUSE I, I THOUGHT LIKE THIS PAST YEAR, ACTUALLY TWO YEARS, THERE'S NEVER BEEN SO MUCH WORK ON ALLEYS.

I MEAN, I SEE IT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY.

A LOT OF YOUR PRESENTATIONS, IT'S BEEN THERE.

HOW IN THE WORLD DID THE PCI GO DOWN ON ALLEYS WHEN YOU'VE DONE SO MUCH IN TWO YEARS, THESE LAST TWO YEARS? UH, YEAH, THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

UM, I STILL THINK, YOU KNOW, THE PCI IS A VERY VARIABLE KIND OF INDICATOR.

UM, OVER TIME OTHER ALLEYS ARE DETERIORATING.

UM, BUT IT JUST MEANS THE LEVEL OF INVESTMENT OVER TIME JUST NEEDS TO CONTINUE.

UM, YOU KNOW, A SHORT SPAN OF A YEAR OR TWO MAY NOT REALLY MOVE THE NEEDLE TOO MUCH, BUT, UM, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF VARIABLES THAT GO INTO THAT, THAT INDEX SCORE, UH, THAT COULD EXPLAIN THAT.

SO IF YOU HAD TO ESTIMATE OF THE ALLEYWAYS OUT THERE, WHAT PERCENTAGE ARE CONCRETE VERSUS WHAT PERCENTAGE ARE THE OTHER COMBINATIONS? 'CAUSE I KNOW I'VE SEEN SOME FROM DIRT TO, TO, UH, ACTUAL.

YEAH.

UM, YEAH, I DON'T

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I WOULD JUST SAY MAJORITY ARE CONCRETE.

UM, AND A LOT, LOT OF THE DIRT ALLEYS ARE, ALL OF THE DIRT ALLEYS HAVE PRETTY MUCH BEEN PAVED.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S REALLY GOOD NEWS THAT NO MORE DIRT ALLEYS REMAIN, BUT THE STANDARD FOR ALLEYS IS CONCRETE.

UM, DOESN'T MEAN TO SAY THERE AREN'T, UH, SOME ASPHALT ALLEYS.

UM, AND THEN ALSO LIKE GREEN ALLEYS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE A PILOT ON RECENTLY LIKE CREST ALLEY, BUT AGAIN, A REAL, YOU KNOW, SMALL FRACTION.

AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THE, UH, ALL THE ORIGINAL DIRT ALLEYS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED, BUT I KNOW WE'VE SEEN SOME PHOTOS WHERE THE ASPHALT OR CONCRETE IS SO DEGRADED IT MIGHT AS WELL BE A DIRT ALLEY.

BUT , IT'S ALSO REALLY NOT INTUITIVELY OBVIOUS THAT THE PCI WOULD GO DOWN BECAUSE WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU REHAB AN ALLEY, IT'S UH, ALMOST PERMANENT CONDITION SINCE THEY, THEY, THEY PROBABLY DETERIORATE WAY SLOWLY.

SO I WOULD THINK IT'S, YOU'RE, YOU'RE KIND OF JUST KNOCKING DOWN THE NUMBER OF REMAINING REHAB PROJECTS A LOT MORE THAN YOU ARE ON THE, IN THE STREET SIDE.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S THE NUMBER, IT DOESN'T REALLY COMPUTE, THAT'S ALL.

ARE THERE ANY MORE CLARIFYING QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUPLE THINGS.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM.

NOW.

SEEING NONE, THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.

ALRIGHT, SO LET ME OPEN IT UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR, UH, COMMENTS FROM, UH, THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.

I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION REGARDING THE, THE PCI SCORE AND THE KIND OF STANDARD WHERE IT'S OVER 60 AND THEN LESS THAN A 15% BACKLOG.

WHERE ARE WE ON OUR CITY'S BACKLOG? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GAVE KIND OF THE UPDATES FOR THE ALLEYS, THE ARTERIAL STREETS AND THE RESIDENTIAL STREETS, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT BACKLOG IS BASED ON THE ORIGINAL MEASURE A UH, PLAN OR IF IT'S OB OR THE ONGOING KIND OF AS THINGS COME ALONG.

UM, THE, WELL, THE, THE BACKLOG WAS UM, UH, ROUGHLY 33% I BELIEVE ON THE RESIDENTIAL STREET NETWORK.

MM-HMM .

UH, IN THE 2021 UPDATE.

UM, BUT MOST RECENTLY IN THIS 2025 UPDATE, UM, THE BACKLOG HAS BEEN REDUCED TO 20%, BUT AGAIN, ON THE RESIDENTIAL STREET NETWORK.

AND SO IS IT THEN, UM, THAT 15% TAKEN WITH EACH DIFFERENT TYPE OF, UM, LIKE ALLEYS AND THEN ARTERIAL STREETS? OR IS IT JUST ALL TOGETHER, I GUESS WAS MORE MY QUESTION OR A SIDE QUESTION? UH, 'CAUSE YOU MENTIONED RESIDENTIAL STREETS YES.

FOR OUR, FOR THE 20%.

UM, AND SO I WAS JUST WONDERING HOW THAT NUMBER IS CALCULATED WITH THE BACKLOG, IF IT WAS TAKEN KIND OF SEPARATELY WITH EACH OF THE INDIVIDUAL, UH, THINGS WE'RE APPROACHING WITH OR IF IT'S, UM, ALTOGETHER, UH, SO SORRY, THE, UM, THE 50% YOU, YOU MENTIONED IS IN REGARDS TO WHAT, UH, 'CAUSE IN THE PRESENTATION IT MENTIONED THAT KIND OF WHERE YOU WANT TO BE IS AT A PCI SCORE OF 60 WITH LESS THAN A 15% BACKLOG.

I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THAT WAS, WELL, THE FIRST QUESTION BEING IS THAT BASED ON THE ORIGINAL MEASURE A PLAN OR IS THAT ONGOING? AND THEN IS THAT 15% FOR EACH OF THE, UM, DIFFERENT INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, ROADWAYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE'RE DOING? OR IF IT'S ALL TOGETHER ADDED UP? KEITH, I CAN TAKE THE FIRST STAB AT THAT.

SO THE 15% AND THE PCI IS 60, THAT'S THE TARGET, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

IS THAT WE HAVE A PCI IN AGGREGATE OF AT LEAST 60 AND WE HAVE A BACKLOG OF 15% OR UNDER, I BELIEVE OUR CURRENT BACKLOG IS 20%.

SO WE'RE NOT MEETING THAT 15% TARGET.

GOT IT.

BUT WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS, AS YOU MENTIONED, SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS FROM 33 TO 20.

YES.

AND THAT IS FOR THE OVERALL NETWORK, RIGHT? YOU WANT TO TARGET THAT 15% FOR THE OVERALL NETWORK, UH, TO MAKE IT MORE SUSTAINABLE.

GOT IT.

AND THEN IT'S ON US TO FIND WAYS TO FILL THAT GAP SO THAT WAY WE CAN GET UNDER THAT 15% AND WE CAN BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SUSTAINABLE IN HOW WE APPROACH THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

CORRECT.

LOVE TO SEE ON THAT IS KIND OF THE WAY YOU LAID IT OUT ON ONE OF YOUR CHARTS.

I HAVE A COUPLE QUICK QUE QUICK QUESTIONS, AND I KNOW WE ONLY HAVE LIKE FOUR OR FIVE MINUTES, SO IT'S PROBABLY JUST GONNA BE A QUESTION AND AN ANSWER FOR LATER BECAUSE I THINK, UM, I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT WAS ASSESSMENT.

SO I APPRECIATE WHEN I START SEEING YOU ACTUALLY SHOWING THAT, HEY, THIS, THIS PCI IMPROVED FROM LAST TIME 9%, UH, 61 VERSUS 56.

WHAT, WHAT I WOULD HOPEFULLY

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I THINK IT WAS AT THE LAST COMMITTEE MEETING, AND I CAN PULL IT OUT OR SEND IT BACK TO YOU, BUT YOU HAD LISTED, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT PCIS, EXCELLENT, GOOD, VERY GOOD CONDITION, MARGINAL, FAIR RANGE, POOR, VERY POOR, THE PERCENTAGE ACROSS THE BOARD TO EQUAL THE A HUNDRED PERCENT DOWN OR, OR WHEREVER THEY'RE AT ON THE PCI.

BUT THEN ALSO PUT THAT, THAT PERCENTAGE BACK INTO ACTUAL, UH, MILES OF STREETS, MILES OF ALLEYS.

BECAUSE I THINK ONE THING THAT IN A SPIRIT OF TRANSPARENCY, UNDERSTANDING, UH, HOW MANY MILES OF STREETS THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY DEALING WITH HAS TO BE COMMUNICATED TO PUBLIC.

SO I WOULD LOVE TO NOT ONLY SEE THE PCI SCORE FROM 2023 VERSUS 2025, BUT HERE'S THE SCORE, HERE'S THE PERCENTAGE OF THAT ARE IN THERE EQUATING TO THIS MANY MILES OF STREET.

YOU KNOW, IS THAT POSSIBLE? CERTAINLY.

AND THEN THE SAME THING.

AND WHEN, WHEN YOU DO THE FACILITY CONDITION, UH, UH, INDEX FOR THE FACILITIES, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, SEEING THE MOST RECENT FACILITIES BY WHETHER IT'S GROUPS OF BUILDINGS, AND I KNOW THAT EACH FCI FOR A BUILDING, THERE ARE WHAT, 9, 9 11 CATEGORIES WITHIN THE BUILDING THAT GETS ASSESSED.

BUT THERE'S AN OVERALL SCORE FOR THAT BUILDING.

BUT IF, WHAT WAS THE FCI AND THE MOST RECENT ONE, AND THEN IN THE PRIOR ONE BY BUILDING OR BY AIR, YOU KNOW, GROUPING THEM, HERE'S THE FIRE STATIONS, POLICE STATIONS AND, AND, AND THE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY BUILDINGS, PUBLIC BUILDINGS, WHATEVER, BUT GROUPING THEM IN CATEGORIES AND, AND GIVING US AN FCI COMPARISON ON THE TWO.

SO I DO WANT TO JUST, UH, MANAGE EXPECTATIONS.

AND I KNOW OUR PREVIOUS DIRECTOR, ERIC HAS ANSWERED, OR WE'VE RESPONDED TO THIS QUESTION, BUT THE, IT'S NOT A ONE FOR ONE ON OUR 2023 FCA, WE CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE A DETAILED LOOK INTO INDIVIDUAL BUILDINGS OR TYPE OF BUILDINGS, BUT THE, THE FCA PRIOR TO THAT 2023 FCA WAS, WAS NOT A ONE FOR ONE.

LIKE WE, WE CAN'T OPEN THAT FCA AND COMPARE THE TWO.

AND I KNOW WE'VE, I KNOW WE'VE MADE THAT VERY CLEAR.

SO, SO WHEN WAS THE, THE MOST RECENT ONE AGAIN, REMIND ME.

2023.

AND THEN THE ONE PRIOR TO THAT WAS THERE WAS A DIFFERENT ONES LIKE A ROOF ONE, UH, ONE FOR PARKS.

SO KIND OF APPLES AND ORANGES.

THEY WERE DONE A LITTLE SPORADICALLY AND, AND A DIFFERENT, UH, A DIFFERENT COMPANY METHOD.

AGAIN, THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN'T TAKE OUT THE, AND COMPARE THE TWO SO IT DIDN'T FOLLOW THE, THE FACILITY, WHATEVER THE FCI STANDARD, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR AT LEAST 20 YEARS WHERE THE WAY THE FCI CODE WAS DONE, WE JUST DIDN'T DO THE 2023.

ONE WAS DONE THAT WAY, BUT PRIOR TO THAT, WE DIDN'T DO THAT.

THAT THAT THE STANDARD NO, I'M GONNA DEFER OVER HERE TO MARILYN KU.

HELLO AGAIN.

UM, THANKS.

YEAH, THEY, THEY WERE, THEY WEREN'T, THEY DIDN'T HAVE USE THAT SAME INDEX ALSO.

WHEN WE SAY 2023, THAT'S WHEN WE FINISHED.

WE ACTUALLY STARTED IN 2019.

SO IT TOOK FOUR YEARS TO DO FCAS FOR THE CITY OWNED FACILITIES.

AND THEN THE PREVIOUS ONES, UM, MY, MY TENURE WITH THE CITY GOES BACK TO 2011 AND I INHERITED SOME FROM MY PREVIOUS GROUPS AND BOSSES.

AND THEY RANGED FROM THE 1990S TO EARLY TWO THOUSANDS.

AND, AND THEY WERE DONE IN PIECES BECAUSE OF, MOSTLY BECAUSE OF THE SIGNIFICANT COST TO DO AN FCA TO DO, TO DO IN A COMPLETE FCA FOR EVERY OWN FACILITY COSTS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

WHICH IS WHY I SAID THE STANDARD IS REALLY NOT TO REDO THEM ALL THE TIME.

REALLY IT'S EVERY 10 TO 20 YEARS.

UM, AND SO, AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'VE SHARED WITH YOU GUYS BEFORE.

WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN OR A BUDGET TO REDO OUR FCAS RIGHT NOW.

UM, AND IT WOULDN'T BE A GOOD USE OF RESOURCES TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO, WE'RE NOT EXPECTING IF WE REDID THEM THAT THIS, THE DATA WOULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT ANYWAY.

SO IT WOULD STILL SHOW WE HAVE MILLION, HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF NEED.

SO GOING TO BACK TO REX'S COMMENTS IN THE BEGINNING OF TODAY'S MEETING, WE'RE, WE'RE, WHAT WE HAVE, THE RESOURCES WE HAVE ARE NOT GOING TO SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGE OUR PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT INDEX, OUR FCAS, RIGHT? WE'RE JUST DOING WHAT WE CAN WITH THE RESOURCES WE HAVE.

IS THAT WE START SHOOTING FOR BUDGET 27 TO START FUNDING A, AN ASSESSMENT STARTING IN 2027 SO THAT YOU CAN START DOING THE ASSESSMENTS.

SO THEN AT LEAST AT A MINIMUM, THEN TO, TO SIMPLIFY YOUR WORK AND WHAT WE PRESENT ON THE FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENTS TO BREAK IT DOWN IN GROUPS BY BUILDINGS AND WHATEVER.

AND THE AVERAGE FCI SCORE AND THEN PLAN OF ACTION OF WHAT IS IN PLACE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HELP IMPROVE THE SCORE.

AND THEN WHAT IS JUST CONSIDERED BACKLOG, JUST, UH, AS A STARTING BASE POINT.

BECAUSE IF IT'S GOING FROM 19 TO 23, THEN MAYBE THE GOAL IS,

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AND MAYBE IT IS, AS YOU'RE SAYING, IF IT'S GONNA TAKE THAT LONG THAT YOU PRIORITIZE OVER THE ONES THAT ARE IN POOR CONDITION.

BECAUSE IN MY MIND, IT'S IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE BUILDINGS THAT ARE GETTING NEGLECTED AND NEED SOME KIND OF WORK AND, OR, OR THEY HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, EITHER ABANDONED OR WHATEVER, SOMETHING, SOMETHING'S GOTTA HAPPEN.

SO YEAH, MY, MY RECOMMENDATION, UM, WOULD BE POST 2030 FOR ANOTHER FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT, BUT WE CAN, WE, WE CAN START PLANNING BUDGET WISE TO, TO, TO GET THERE.

BUT I'M JUST, JUST SHARING MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION AND, AND I, I, I, I DO APPRECIATE THE TIME FOR THIS CONVERSATION, BUT WITH OUR, THE CURRENT DATA WE HAVE FROM 2019 TO 2023, WE'RE NOT LETTING THAT DATA BE STAGNANT.

SO WE HAVE A, WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN INTERNAL SYSTEM.

IT'S A CAPITAL PREDICTOR SYSTEM, AND WE PUT IN THE DATA FROM 2019 AND IT'S, WE CURRENTLY HAVE HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST IN TODAY'S DOLLARS ON AN ESTIMATE BASIS.

SO AGAIN, I THINK TO MARILYN'S POINT, WE DON'T NEED TO SPEND, YOU KNOW, IN MY OPINION, TWO TO $3 MILLION TO GO INTO EVERY FACILITY WHEN WE HAVE THE DATA AND WE HAVE INFLATORS AND DEGRADATION DATA IN THERE.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE ASSESS THE ROOF IN 2019 AND IT GOT A RATING OF 60, NOW OUR CAPITAL PREDICTOR SOFTWARE SAYS THAT'S PROBABLY A 45.

AND IT'S, IT, WE SAID IN 2019 IT COSTS 20 MILLION.

IT AUTOMATICALLY HAS IT BUILT IN OF HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST TODAY.

SO WE HAVE ALL THAT INTERNAL INFORMATION AND IF I MAY, THE TIME IS NOW 4 32.

ALRIGHT, SO I THINK WE NEED TO CLOSE THIS OUT AND WE CAN HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATION IN, IN, IN AUGUST OR I MEAN, UH, NEXT MEETING IN FEBRUARY.

SO, UH, WE ALREADY DID THE OTHER STUFF, SO I GUESS WE'RE DONE.

SO WE NEED A MEMBERS, UH, WE NEED TO CALL THIS FOR VOTE, RIGHT? YES.

CAST VOTE.

AND I CAN TAKE VERBAL VOTES.

UH, AT THIS TIME WE'LL TAKE ANY NON-AG AGENDA, PUBLIC COMMENTS.

CLERK, PLEASE CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, SEEING NO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN THE AUDIENCE.

THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.