* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. OKAY, [00:00:01] I AM GOING TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. IT IS 4 45 ON THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 13TH. THIS IS THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. I AM GOING TO TAKE ROLL CALL. UM, SO COMMISSIONER CHARLENE HIGA HERE. UM, COMMISSIONER SUSAN REDFIELD. I THINK SHE HAS AN EXCUSED ABSENCE. AND THEN COMMISSIONER SMITH. I AM HERE. UM, THAT IS THE ROLL CALL. SO WE'RE GONNA GET STARTED WITH THE REGULAR AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER ONE, RECOMMEND RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE MEETING OF OCTOBER 9TH, 2025. THE SUGGESTED ACTION IS TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION. UM, I WASN'T HERE. UM, SO I THINK THERE'S JUST ONE PERSON WHO IS HERE. UM, CAN I GET A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? UH, MOTION TO APPROVE. OKAY. SO MOVED. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. UM, THE MOTION PASSES. DO WE STILL NEED A SECOND? EVEN THOSE ONE ONLY? YEAH. TWO OF US. YEAH. SECOND. OKAY. SECOND, . UM, THE MOTION IS SECONDED AND APPROVAL. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. UM, SO IT PASSES SINCE THERE'S NO ONE ELSE PRESENT BESIDES, UM, THE TWO COMMISSIONERS PRESENT. OKAY. SO NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO. UM, RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS FEE WAIVER REQUESTS RECEIVED BETWEEN OCTOBER 9TH, 2025 AND NOVEMBER 12TH, 2025. UM, WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER TO GLADYS TO GIVE THE REPORT. UM, COMMISSIONERS ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY, WE HAVE SIX TO PRESENT TO YOU. UM, THE FIRST IS THE CHOSEN FEW MOTORCYCLE CLUB. THEY'RE REQUESTING TO USE THE MARTIN LUTHER KING SOCIAL HALL FOR A CHARITY EVENT. TOY DRIVE ON DECEMBER 6TH, $281 AND 50 CENTS. REQUESTED TO BE WAIVED AND APPLICABLE IS $1,257 IN SECURITY DEPOSIT, UM, AND STAFF, AS WELL AS MAINTENANCE FEES. THE NEXT IS THE WATERMAN'S COLLECTION. THIS IS A NEW GROUP. THIS IS A NEW EVENT TO US. THEY'RE REQUESTING THE USE OF RECREATION PARK SOCIAL HALL FOR A CHARITY EVENT, ANOTHER TOY DRIVE ON DECEMBER 6TH, $679 IN FACILITY AND PERMIT FEES REQUESTED TO BE WAIVED. AND THEY HAVE $1,328 IN SECURITY DEPOSIT STAFF AND MAINTENANCE FEES ON BEHALF OF THE ALAMEDOS HEIGHTS IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION. NOT A NEW GROUP, NOT A NEW EVENT. THIS IS THEIR ANNUAL TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY IN THE COLORADO LAGOON OPEN SPACE. THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD EVENT REQUESTED TO BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 28TH, $294. UM, PERMIT AND SPECIAL UFE USE FEES REQUESTED TO BE WAIVED ON BEHALF OF BEHALF OF THE ROSE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ON DECEMBER 18TH FOR THEIR ANNUAL HOLIDAY, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, PARTY, I'M SORRY, NEIGHBORHOOD EVENT. UH, ROSE PARK OPEN SPACE ON $229 IN PERMIT AND SPECIAL USE FEES REQUESTED TO BE WAIVED ON BEHALF OF PARTNERS OF PARKS FOR THE LONG BEACH GR PANTHERS. THIS IS TO HOST THEIR OLDER ADULT ASSOCIATION MEETING ON THE FIRST SATURDAY OF THE MONTH FROM 12 6 20 25 TO 6 6 20 26 TO BE HELD AT THE LONG BEACH SENIOR CENTER IN THE AUDITORIUM AREA. AGAIN FOR THEIR MONTHLY MEETINGS, $662 AND 50 CENTS REQUESTED TO BE WAIVED. AND LASTLY, ON BEHALF OF A OC SEVEN, UM, THIS IS NOT A NEW GROUP, BUT THIS IS A NEW EVENT FOR THEM IN THE OPEN SPACE IN MACARTHUR PARK. A COMMUNITY EVENT WITH A FOOD GIVEAWAY ON DECEMBER 6TH, 229. SPECIAL USE AND PERMIT FEES REQUESTED TO BE WAIVED. TOTAL FEES REQUESTED TO BE WAIVED, UM, FOR THIS MONTH ARE $2,375. THANK YOU. CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION? UH, SO MOVED BEFORE VOTING. I JUST WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THIS. SURE. COLORADO LEGUME TIDELANDS, YOU KNOW WHAT, UM, THE OPEN SPACE. SO I'LL HAVE TO SEE WHERE IT IS ON THE OPEN SPACE. 'CAUSE IT DEPENDS. SO I WILL CHECK THAT. AND TOMORROW, IF IT MAKES A CHANGE, COMMISSIONERS, WE WILL PULL THAT OFF THE AGENDA AND HAVE A REQUEST THAT GOES TO COUNCIL. MM. OKAY. 'CAUSE IT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SPACE. IT'S TIDELANDS. IT'S THE TIDELANDS. YEAH. OKAY. OUR OFFICE NOW HANDLES ALL OF THE, UM, REQUEST FOR TIDELANDS AS WELL AS THIS. SO STAFF MIGHT NOT HAVE GOT THAT. I SHOULD HAVE. UM, SO LET ME ASK WHERE THAT IS. UM, CATCH. OKAY. THE AND A SECOND. SO I, SO YOU PER THE MOTION AND, UH, SO APPROVES THE SECOND . UM, SO GLADYS, THE WATERMAN'S COLLECTIVE, I SEE IT'S A NEW GROUP. WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT THEM? THE WATERMAN'S COLLECTIVE IS, THIS IS A NON-PROFIT EVENT TO RAISE AND GATHER TOYS FOR CHILDREN. [00:05:01] UM, THAT WILL BE DONATED TO THE MILDRED CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL MEMORIAL GROUP. SO, UM, AND THE GROUP ITSELF COLLECTIVE THE GROUP ITSELF. LET'S SEE IF THEY HAVE, JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY. NO PROBLEM. WHEN I CAN GOOGLE THEM AS WELL. LOT TIMES EIGHT, WHEN THEY'RE NEW, THEY APPROVE. THEY DON'T, SO, UM, THE WATERMAN'S COLLECTIVE IS SET UP. UM, IT IS A, UM, FISHING GROUP. OH, HMM. THAT IS A, LET'S SEE WHERE THE NONPROFIT IS. EVERYTH COMES UP AS A RELATED TO PROFIT. HMM. I CAN GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, BUT IT IS WATERMAN COLLECTED LLCC SET UP BY ENGLISH FOUR ANGLERS. SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS, UM, A, IF IT'S AN LLC, THEN IT'S NOT A NON-PROFIT. YEAH. L BUT IT THAT THERE'S ALSO A WHOLE BUNCH OF, UM, LIKE COMPANIES COME UP THE WATERMAN'S COLLECTIVE SELLING FISHING STUFF. SO I LOOKED UP NON NON-PROFIT SO I CAN GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. 'CAUSE OUR, OUR TEAM CHECKS TO SEE IF THEY ARE, THEY HAVE LIKE AN APPROVED NON-PROFIT STATUS MM-HMM . SO THEY WOULD'VE PASSED THAT. BUT EVERYTHING THAT COMES UP, WATERMAN'S COLLECTIVE COMES UP AS FISHING. BUT I WILL, WE WILL DO MORE RESEARCH. THANKS. MM-HMM . AND THEN, UM, I HAVE A QUESTION WHEN YOU'RE READY. MM-HMM . HOW MUCH HAVE WE DONE FOR TOTAL FEE WAIVED? TOTAL FEES WAIVED AS OF NOVEMBER FOR THE YEAR, I GUESS. SO FOR THE YEAR COMMISSIONERS, UM, FOR FY 26, THAT INCLUDES OCTOBER ONE THROUGH NOW YEAH. WOULD BE $650. SO COLLECTIVE, SO WE, WE HAVE THE TWENTY THREE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE THAT I JUST, OH, I'M SORRY. FOR THE PREVIOUS YEAR. PREVIOUS, YEAH. SO THAT WAS MY, MY NEXT, SO COMMISSIONER, UM, HAD ASKED FOR WHAT WE DID IN PREVIOUS YEAR. SO I BROUGHT THAT INFORMATION. SO IN FISCAL YEAR, UM, 2025, UM, THE COMMISSION WAIVED $1,888 1088. 1 72. TOTAL FEES WAIVED. 188,000 180. YEAH. SORRY, I WAS READING 188,000. I WAS LIKE, OH, JUST 1,188,000. OKAY. AND THEN, SO TO HAVE SOME PERSPECTIVE IS WHAT THE YEAR BEFORE, UM, AND ACTUALLY VERY CLOSE TO, SO FY 23 AND FY 24 WERE VERY CLOSE. ONLY A COUPLE DOLLARS APART. IT WAS 225,000. SO IT'S A $37,000 DIFFERENCE. UM, AND SO BRAINSTORMING AND HAVING STAFF LOOKED INTO THE TWO YEARS. AND WHAT TYPE OF THE, UM, PERMITS CAME IN FOR REQUESTS IN THE PRIOR TWO YEARS, FY 23 AND FY 24. THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT GAVE OUT A LOT OF MINI GRANTS TO NONPROFITS TO ACTIVATE PARKS FOR CODING. UM, AND THEN WE, UM, IT, IT JUST, IT WAS PARK ACTIVATION. IT WAS A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS. SO WE ACTUALLY MET WITH THE GROUPS TO SHOW THEM HOW TO DO FEE WAIVERS TO MAKE THEM SUCCESSFUL. THEREFORE, THEIR GRANT FUNDS WERE GOING TO THE CAUSE OF THE EVENT VERSUS A PERMIT. UM, SO THAT'S WHAT STAFF WOULD ESTIMATE TO BE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE WAS. HMM. SO IT'S ABOUT 37,000 FROM 25 TO 24. SO IN SOME WAYS IT'S KIND OF LIKE A WASH 'CAUSE JUST RIGHT. BUT THAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE IN COMPARATIVE OF EVENTS. THOSE WERE THE EVENTS THAT WE LOOK ARE NOT INTO HAPPENING IN THIS YEAR. SO IT'S MORE THE, SO THE, IT'S NOT SO MUCH THAT WE'RE NOT WAIVING THE FEES, IT'S THAT THE EVENTS AREN'T HAPPENING. YES. OKAY. GOT IT. YEAH. AND I'LL SHARE THAT AT THE, UM, COMMISSION MEETING 'CAUSE THE COMMISSIONER CHAVEZ ASKED FOR THAT INFORMATION. OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . OKAY. SO YOU'RE GONNA FIGURE OUT WATERMAN COLLECTIVE. YES. UM, SO WE HAVE THE MOTION ON THE TABLE. IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY, UM, COMMISSIONER SMITH. SO, UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. SO THAT ONE PASSES AS WELL AS FIGURING OUT THE ALAMEDOS HEIGHTS IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION. IF IT'S A TIDELANDS YES. REQUEST FOR TIDELANDS. OKAY. CORRECT. THANK YOU. SO NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE AN UPDATE REGARDING DAMAGE, LOSS AND THEFT AS IT RELATES TO THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS, REC, AND RECREATION AND MARINE. UM, AND SO THAT IS GOING TO BE A REPORT BY ACTING DIRECTOR. SCOTT, I WOULD LIKE TO GET A MOTION. SO MOVED. I'LL [00:10:01] MAKE THAT SECOND. THANK YOU. NOW WE CAN DO THE, UM, THANK YOU. SO, UH, THE MONTH OF OCTOBER WAS A VERY, VERY BUSY MONTH WITH RESPECT TO VANDALISM. FORTUNATELY THOUGH, NO BIG TICKET ITEMS. WE HAVE A LOT OF LITTLE, LIKE KEY, UM, BANG, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TRYING TO GET INTO THE KEYS AND BREAKING LOCKS. AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF OUR LIGHT POLES THAT HAVE THE WIRES EXPOSED BECAUSE THE, THE PROTECTIVE CAPS HAVE BEEN POPPED OFF. AND SO REALLY A LOT OF THAT TYPE OF ACTIVITY, VERY SMALL DOLLAR VALUE, BUT A LOT OF ACTIVITY. AND SO THAT MEANS PEOPLE ARE TRYING VERY HARD TO GET IN AND GET TO THAT COPPER WIRING. FORTUNATELY, UM, DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF LOSS OF COPPER WIRING. UM, BUT A LOT OF THOSE, UM, COVERS HAVE BEEN VANDALIZED INTERESTINGLY WITH, I MEAN, THERE WERE A LOT OF ACTIVITIES THIS MONTH AND IT REALLY SPANS THE CITY. THERE IS NO HOTSPOT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT IS BASICALLY EVERYWHERE, UH, IN THE CITY HERE, EL DORADO UP NORTH E UH, WEST, UH, SILVERADO, JUST A LOT OF ACTIVITY. UH, I THINK OUR BIGGEST ITEM THOUGH WAS ROUGHLY $500, WHICH IS A VERY SMALL AMOUNT. AND IN TOTAL FOR THE MONTH, OUR LOSS WAS ABOUT $6,600. OH. SO WE'RE SEEING, THIS IS KIND OF A TREND RECENTLY. WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF ACTIVITY, BUT NOT A LOT OF HIGH DOLLAR LOSSES. RIGHT. I FEEL LIKE THE THEME RECENTLY HAS BEEN YEAH, IT'S, EVERYTHING'S GOING PRETTY WELL. AND SO THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S WHY ALYSSA AND I WERE BOTH LIKE, AH, DANG IT, IT'S FINALLY COME, FINALLY HAPPENED. BUT, BUT IT'S STILL THE SMALLER DOLLAR AMOUNT. IT, IT'S A SMALLER DOLLAR AMOUNT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, FROM THE FINANCE FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE, THIS ISN'T BAD. MM-HMM . UH, IT'S THOSE BIG TICKET ITEMS THAT ARE REALLY TOUGH. YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T LUCKILY HAD LIKE A, A PLAYGROUND MM-HMM . UH, VANDALIZED. THOSE HAVE BEEN OUR BIGGEST TICKET ITEMS WITH AT ROTATE A FEW YEARS AGO. MM-HMM . PARK, UH, PRIOR TO THAT. UM, SO WE'RE FORTUNATE THAT THOSE THINGS DON'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN, BUT, UM, THEY DO OCCASIONALLY. MM-HMM . I THINK SOME OF THIS MIGHT BE THE VISIBILITY OF THE PARK AMBASSADORS MM-HMM . WHEN THEY'RE OUT IN THE, IN THE PARKS. UM, AT LEAST MAYBE THAT'S WHY WE'RE AVOIDING THOSE BIGGER TICKET ITEMS. MM-HMM . AGAIN, THE ACTIVITY IS QUITE A BIT MM-HMM . BUT THEY'RE JUST NOT THE BIG TICKET ITEMS. YEAH. AND IS THAT ON PAR WITH OTHER OCTOBERS? LIKE, IN OTHER WORDS, IS IT JUST, IS IT WEIRD TO HAVE THAT MUCH ACTIVITY? OR IS IT KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S GETTING DARK EARLIER AND HALLOWEEN AND, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A, A COMPARISON FOR JUST THE MONTH. UM, I WILL SAY THOUGH, IT HAS BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE HAVE HAD A REPORT THIS LONG. OKAY. HMM. INTERESTING. SO, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, I CAN COME BACK, UM, WITH AN ACTUAL MONTH VERSUS MONTH, UH, OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. AND AGAIN, JUST MORE OUT OF CURIOSITY THAN ANYTHING ELSE. NO PROBLEM. WELL, I GUESS THAT'S SOME GOOD NEWS THAT IT'S NOT BIG. CORRECT. IT IT IS, IT IS. I MEAN, THE ACTIVITY KIND OF CONCERNS ME THAT IT'S JUST SO MUCH MM-HMM . BUT, UH, WAS ANY PARTICULAR PARK HIT WORSE THAN NO, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS, UH, HOPING TO CONVEY IS THAT IT IS, IT IS EVERYWHERE. IT'S KIND OF LIKE SOME PARK EQUITY IN THIS REALLY SEGUE WAY WELL PUT. YES. WELL, I ALSO THINK, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE MENTIONED BEFORE THAT ONE OF THE REASONS, UH, THE ACTIVITY HAS BEEN DOWN IS BECAUSE OF THE PARK AMBASSADORS. SO THE FLURRY OF ACTIVITY DOES SUGGEST THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE SOME OF THE VISIBILITY OF THE PARK AMBASSADOR IS NO LONGER A DETERRENT. RIGHT. BECAUSE IF THERE'S SO MUCH HAPPENING IN SO MANY PLACES, THEN EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT DESTROYING BIG THINGS, WE'RE STILL OUT DOING THINGS . YEAH. AND, AND THAT'S DEFINITELY POSSIBLE. BUT I THINK WITH SO MANY AND THE TYPE OF ACTIVITY, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY KNOW I GOTTA BE IN AND OUT. OKAY. THOSE BIGGER VANDALISM MIGHT TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME. AND I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME, UM, YOU KNOW, A FEAR FACTOR OF GETTING CAUGHT WITH THAT BECAUSE THE PARK AMBASSADORS MM-HMM . ARE OUT THERE. THESE ARE THE QUICK POP OFF, UM, THE COVERING OF, OF THE ELECTRIC WIRES MM-HMM . UM, AND SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL SPECULATION, BUT I, I'D LIKE TO THINK THAT THE PARK AMBASSADORS ARE STILL HAVING A POSITIVE IMPACT, UH, AT LEAST WITH SOME OF THOSE LARGER, UM, AND MORE TIME CONSUMING, UH, VANDALISM ACTS. OKAY. [00:15:01] THANK YOU. ALL RIGHTY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE REPORTS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. SORRY. AYE. . OKAY. SO NOW MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS THE AGENDA FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING. I THINK I MISSED FOUR. DID I MISS FOUR? OH, SORRY. RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE IN ITEM NUMBER FOUR, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE AN UPDATE REGARDING FINANCE AND WATER. WATER AS IT RELATES TO THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION AND MARINE. UM, CAN I GET A MOTION? SO MOVED. UM, I WILL MAKE THE SECOND NOW WE'LL NEED THE REPORT. GREAT. THANK YOU. UM, SO THIS IS A REPORT OF JUST THE FIRST MONTH OF THE FISCAL YEAR. MM-HMM . SO NOT A LOT OF, UH, ACTIVITY. CAN'T REALLY TELL, YOU KNOW, THEMES OR TRENDS, UH, YET THIS YEAR. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE FIRST 8% OF THE FISCAL YEAR, UH, WE'RE ONLY AT ABOUT 4% OF OUR BUDGET SPENT. SO, HEY, THAT'S A GOOD THING. . UM, I ALWAYS SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD THOUGH. 'CAUSE I WILL SAY WE WILL CATCH UP IN THE SUMMER WHEN ALL OF OUR ACTIVITY ACTUALLY HITS. AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, YEAR OVER YEAR, THIS IS, UH, VERY, UH, THIS IS EXPECTED. UM, AND COME MAY, JUNE, JULY, WE'LL START TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS REALLY CATCH UP. ONE POSITIVE THING THOUGH IS IN THE GENERAL FUND, OUR REVENUES ARE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER, UM, THAN THIS TIME LAST YEAR. UM, THE REASON FOR THAT THOUGH IS THERE WAS AN EXTRA PAYMENT, UH, FOR GOLF. AND SO IT'S JUST, IT'S KIND OF A TIMING ISSUE OF WHEN IT HITS THE FINANCIAL SYSTEMS. IT'S NOT LIKE THEY GAVE US MORE THAN, UH, WE WOULD'VE EXPECTED. IT'S JUST THE TIMING OF WHEN IT HIT AND IT HAPPENED TO HIT A LITTLE BIT LATER, WHICH GETS CAPTURED HERE. SO NOT IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR. IT LOOKS GOOD, BUT, UM, IT WILL EVEN OUT. OKAY. ALL RIGHTY. ANY QUESTIONS? UM, YEAH, AGAIN, JUST OUT OF, UH, CURIOSITY, I KNOW, UM, ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD, GOSH, I HAVE NO SENSE OF TIME, BUT, UM, WHEN, UH, THE EL DODO DUCK POND WAS FINALLY REOPENED, THERE WAS ALL SORTS OF CONCERN ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, WHAT WAS IT THAT WASN'T FILTRATION, BUT THERE WAS SOMETHING HAPPENING UNDERGROUND THAT THAT WAS, THAT MADE IT DIFFICULT AND WASN'T OP WASN'T OPENING ON SCHEDULE. UM, I JUST, AS I WAS DRIVING HERE WAS THINKING, UM, WITH RAINS COMING AND THAT SORT OF THING. BUT, UM, IS THERE ANY, HAS E EVERYTHING BEEN RUNNING SMOOTHLY IN TERMS OF ALL OF THAT? YES. OKAY. AND, YOU KNOW, THE DESIGN OF THE DUCK POND IS REALLY, UM, TO ADDRESS SITUATIONS WHERE WE GOT A LOT OF RAIN MM-HMM . WHERE WE GET A LOT OF RAIN BECAUSE THERE, UH, IS A MECHANISM TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT WATER MM-HMM . UH, OVER ON THE GOLF COURSE FOR IRRIGATION PURPOSES. AND SO, UH, THIS RAIN WILL ACTUALLY BE VERY BENEFICIAL FOR THE GOLF COURSES, UH, SO THAT THEY CAN SAVE, UM, SOME OF THEIR, UH, BUDGET ON THAT THEY TYPICALLY SPEND ON IRRIGATION. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. MOTION PASSES. . OKAY. REALLY NOW WE'RE ON NUMBER FIVE. . ITEM NUMBER FIVE, RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS THE AGENDA FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING OF NOVEMBER 20TH, 2025. CAN I GET A MOTION? SO MOVED. I WILL SECOND ACTING DIRECTOR, SCOTT. ALRIGHT. SO WE HAVE A, A FAIRLY SHORT AGENDA IN TERMS OF ACTUAL ITEMS. MM-HMM . HAVING SAID THAT, ONE OF THE ITEMS MIGHT BE A LENGTHY MM-HMM . UH, DISCUSSION. OKAY. AND SO, UH, I'LL, I'LL WALK THROUGH AND WE'LL GET TO THAT AND DISCUSS IT WHEN I GET TO IT. BUT, UM, OF COURSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE OUR EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH, UH, PRESENTATION, UH, AS WE DO EVERY MONTH. UM, THEN ARE WE STILL HAVING THE ELEVATE 28 PRESENTATION? IT, IT'S UP TO YOU. OKAY. I PREFER NOT TO. OKAY. UM, SO A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, THE, UH, MAINTENANCE INFRASTRUCTURE AND WHAT'S THE THIRD MAINTENANCE AND INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, COMMITTEE, UH, HELD A MEETING WHERE THEY HEARD SEVERAL PRESENTATIONS. THEY HEARD A PRESENTATION, UH, ABOUT, UM, THE ELEVATE 28 PLAN THAT IS THE CITY'S FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PLAN. PUBLIC WORKS CAME AND PRESENTED THAT. THEY ALSO HEARD A PRESENTATION ON, UH, THE MAINTENANCE OF OUR PARK PLANS. UM, AND THEN THERE WAS A THIRD CONVERSATION, UH, A THIRD PRESENTATION ON, UM, THE STATUS OF, AND NEXT STEPS OF THE DRAKE CHAVEZ PROJECT. UM, [00:20:01] NOW WITH THAT, WE WERE GONNA BRING ALL THREE BACK TO THE FULL COMMISSION. THAT MEETING BY ITSELF WAS A LITTLE OVER TWO HOURS MM-HMM . AND SO WE'RE GONNA BREAK UP THE, UH, PRESENTATIONS TO DIFFERENT MONTHS FOR, UH, COMMISSION. AND WE ARE GONNA BE BRINGING FORWARD THIS MONTH. IT'S ACTUALLY THEN ITEM NUMBER TWO, THE PARKLAND MANAGEMENT, UM, PRESENTATION. SO THAT IS A PRESENTATION BY OUR MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS BUREAU THAT IT'S GONNA TALK ABOUT HOW DO WE MAINTAIN OUR OPEN SPACES, UH, IN OUR PARKS. AND A LOT OF THIS IS REALLY ABOUT WHAT ARE THE TOOLS THAT WE USE TO ADDRESS, UH, SOME OF OUR WEED ISSUES. AND A FEW YEARS AGO WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT ROUNDUP. UM, NOW, UH, THE REQUEST FROM THE COMMISSION WAS TO GET A PRESENTATION ON WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW AND WHAT PRODUCTS ARE WE USING AND WHAT OTHER TOOLS DO WE HAVE AT OUR DISPOSAL. THAT PRESENTATION ALONE WAS ABOUT 45 MINUTES. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHY I'D LIKE TO REMOVE THE FIRST ITEM. OKAY. UH, I THINK IT'LL JUST BE TOO LONG OF A MEETING IF WE TRY TO CRAM ALL OF THESE THINGS IN THERE. MM MM AND THIS IS WHERE I REMEMBER WE HAD PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT, UM, WHAT TYPE OF YEP. PRODUCT WE WERE USING. RIGHT. AND, AND THERE WAS A TON OF, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE, UH, MAINTENANCE AND INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, COMMITTEE MEETING. THERE WERE, THERE WERE PROBABLY 10 TO A DOZEN, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. THAT WAS DIANA LAJES. RIGHT. AND, AND OTHERS. AND SEVERAL OTHERS. YES. AND SO IT WAS A GOOD PRESENTATION. UM, RAUL, OUR, UH, SUPERINTENDENT FOR GROUNDS MAINTENANCE GAVE IT, UM, TALKED REALLY HIGH LEVEL FIRST JUST ABOUT WHAT IT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE IS OUR ROLE, UM, AS A PARKS ORGANIZATION FOR MAINTAINING OUR, UM, OPEN SPACES? WHAT ARE SOME OF THE TOOLS THAT WE USE AND THEN GETS INTO THE ACTUAL PRODUCTS MM-HMM . UM, AND WHAT THE WARNING LABELS ON THE PRODUCTS ACTUALLY MEAN. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SCARES A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN THEY SEE A CAUTION LABEL ON A WARNING. MM-HMM . NOW YOU'LL SEE CAUTION LABELS ON YOUR CAR AS WELL. UM, AND SO HE'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT THOSE, UM, LABELS MEAN. UM, THERE MAY BE PUBLIC INPUT THAT, UH, REQUESTS THAT WE GET RID OF USING SOME OF OUR PRODUCTS OR THE PRODUCT THAT WE USE. UH, THERE MAY BE A REQUEST FOR MAYBE A PILOT PROJECT WHERE WE EXPLORE USING SOME OTHER TOOLS TO ADDRESS IT. UM, AND SO WE WILL HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY ON THAT. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE COMMISSION HAS AN ADVISORY ROLE, UH, FOR THIS ITEM. AND SO, UH, THERE COULD BE A NUMBER OF, UH, DIFFERENT OPTIONS. IT COULD BE A RECEIVE AND FILE, IT COULD BE EVEN ASKING THE DEPARTMENT TO MAYBE TAKE A LOOK, EXPLORE AT WHAT A PILOT COULD LOOK LIKE AND COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION TO TALK ABOUT WHAT A PILOT COULD LOOK LIKE MM-HMM . UM, SO A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I THINK THE PRESENTATION IS EXTREMELY, UM, INFORMATIVE AND DOES A VERY GOOD JOB OF REALLY JUST KIND OF SETTING THE FRAMEWORK OF WHAT IT'S LIKE TO MAINTAIN A PARK SYSTEM THAT HAS OVER 3,100 ACRES. MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, IT'S SO FUNNY, THE FIRST QUESTION AS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IT THAT POPS INTO MY MIND BECAUSE I'M ALLERGIC TO THEM ARE MOSQUITOES. AND SO I KNOW THAT'S LIKE SUCH A RANDOM QUESTION. 'CAUSE I THINK OF LIKE YOUNG CHILDREN AND MOSQUITOES AND HOW OFTEN THEY GET BIT AND THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO LIKE VOCALIZE. LIKE WHAT'S BITING THEM AND WHAT'S HURTING THEM. 'CAUSE I'VE WORKED IN CHILDREN A LOT AND SO THAT MAY BE MY QUESTION IS LIKE, HOW DO WE PROTECT CHILDREN FROM BUGS THAT BITE THEM? AND SO I KNOW THAT LIKE THE PRODUCTS THAT WE USE, THEY KILL BUGS. I MEAN THAT'S, YOU KNOW, MY REASONING. SO THAT MAY BE A QUESTION THAT I ASK LIKE, HOW DOES THIS PREVENT, YOU KNOW, THE INSECTS THAT BITE CHILDREN? YEP. I KNOW THAT PROBABLY SOUNDS LIKE A REALLY LIKE SILLY QUESTION, BUT I MEAN IT'S MY, MY SIMPLE REASONING HOW I SEE THAT, I DON'T KNOW. DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A SILLY QUESTION? NO, I THINK IT'S FINE. THE FOCUS AND THE REQUEST IS REALLY ABOUT WEED ABATEMENT. YES. BUT THE PRODUCTS DO HAVE OTHER, UM, USES. RIGHT. USES. EXACTLY. AND I, I MEAN IF IT DOESN'T FIT INTO THAT IT INTO THE WHOLE SCOPE, THEN I'M NOT GONNA ASK IT. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT [00:25:01] STAFF IS PREPARED TO ADDRESS THAT TYPE OF QUESTION. OKAY. BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, OPEN SPACES, EVERYBODY USES OPEN SPACES MM-HMM . AND IF YOU ARE LIVING IN AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT LIKE WHERE I LIVE IN THE WILMORE, YOU MAY TAKE YOUR CHILDREN THERE BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A BACKYARD OR A FRONT YARD. SO, YOU KNOW, WITH A LOT OF OUR FAMILIES, THEY REALLY USE THAT FOR SOCCER. JUST GOING OUT THERE AND HAVING A SPACE TO BE. AND SO, I MEAN, THAT'S HOW I LOOK AT THE SPACE. SO, UM, JUST SORT OF CURIOUS AND ANYWAY. YEP. I KNOW IT'S SORT OF A RANDOM QUESTION, BUT WE WILL BE PREPARED FOR THAT. OKAY. SO AGAIN, UM, I'M GONNA HAVE ITEM NUMBER ONE REMOVED AND WE'LL COME BACK AT ANOTHER COMMISSION MEETING TO PRESENT, UH, THAT ELEVATE 28 OVERVIEW. JUST LIKE WE'LL BE COMING BACK AT A LATER DATE WITH THE DRAKE CHAVEZ PRESENTATION. AGAIN, I'M REALLY SENSITIVE TO EVERYBODY'S TIME. MM-HMM . AND I KNOW THAT THIS ITEM, ITEM NUMBER TWO WILL TAKE SOME TIME. AND I DO THINK WITH DRAKE CHAVEZ, THAT WILL TAKE MORE TIME. AND TODAY I WENT TO THE, UH, I DID THE VIRTUAL FOR DRAKE CHAVEZ. YEAH. MM-HMM . SO I DO THINK THAT WILL, THAT NEEDS A LITTLE BIT MORE HIGHLIGHTED TIME, SO I APPRECIATE THAT. UM, LET'S SEE. MOVING ON BEYOND THAT APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FEE WAIVERS, WHICH YOU JUST REVIEWED, AND THEN WE HAVE ONE ITEM, UM, REMAINING OF NOTE. AND THIS IS TO AUTHORIZE, UM, A RIGHT OF ENTRY TO MU GO SPORTS LIGHTING FOR INSTALLATION OF A MINI PITCH OF A SOCCER PITCH UP AT RAMONA PARK. AND SO IF YOU CAN THINK OF THOSE SPORTS COURT, COURT INTERLOCKING, UM, MATS THAT, UH, YOU CAN LAY DOWN ON SPORTS COURTS MM-HMM . THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA BE GOING ONTO A, ESSENTIALLY AN UNUSED, UH, HARDSCAPE UP AT RAMONA PARK. AND THEY'RE GONNA TRANSFORM THAT INTO A MINI PITCH. NOW, DON'T GET CONFUSED BY THE NAME MUSCO SPORTS LIGHTING. THEY ARE DOING THE WORK OF THE INSTALLATION. THERE IS, THEY ARE NOT ADDING ANY LIGHTING, UH, TO THAT CART. IS THIS A PERMANENT, UM, SURFACE OR IS IT, IT IT'S ACTUALLY, UM, I'M NOT GONNA CALL IT TEMPORARY, BUT IT'S EASILY REMOVED. BUT IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S NOT LIKE A, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS MONTH ONLY OR CYCLES? NO, NO. IT, IT WILL BE, UM, IT WILL BE, UM, IN USE AS LONG AS IT, IT HOLDS UP. AND THIS WAS FOR A GRANT FROM US SOCCER FEDERATION, UH, WHO RECEIVED MONEY ACTUALLY FROM A LOCAL BUSINESS, UH, ARMSTRONG FAMILY INSURANCE, UH, WHO WANT TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. AND SO, UH, THEY PROVIDED MONEY TO US SOCCER FOUNDATION WHO THEN REACHED OUT TO US AND SAID, HEY, DO YOU HAVE A PLACE THAT WE CAN DO THIS? SO WE DID THIS UP AT THE FOREST PARK, UH, VERY SUCCESSFUL, UM, HEAVILY USED. AND SO, UH, JUST ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO UH, ENHANCE, UH, RAMONA PARK, WHICH JUST HAD THE BRAND NEW MM-HMM . OKAY. PLAYGROUND OPENING, WHICH WAS FANTASTIC. UM, AND SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT, UH, TO THAT COMMUNITY. GREAT. AND THEN WE WILL HAVE THE DIRECTOR'S HIGHLIGHTS AND, UH, OUR, UH, ITEM TO DISCUSS POTENTIAL TOPICS FOR FUTURE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETINGS. AND SO RECALL, THAT'S WHERE WE, YOU KNOW, RECEIVE SOME OF THE, UH, REQUESTS FOR UPDATES ON THAT PARK LAND OR LEAD ABATEMENT MANAGEMENT, UM, DRAKE CHAVEZ AND A COUPLE OF OTHERS, UH, OLYMPICS, UM, OVERVIEW BY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. SO, AND THAT IS THE, THAT IS THE AGENDA. IT'S AGAIN A SHORT AGENDA, BUT IT WILL HAVE ONE LENGTHY ITEM, UM, IN YOUR, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T PREDICT HOW MUCH PUBLIC COMMENT THERE'LL BE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT, UH, I USUALLY GET A HALF DAY SUB. OKAY. WHERE I NEED TO BE BACK BY NOON. I THINK WE'LL BE FINE. OKAY. . OKAY. UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE AGAIN, 10 TO 12 PEOPLE AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT IT WAS AN EVENING MEETING, WHICH PROBABLY WAS A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR SOME PEOPLE TO GET TO BECAUSE THEY WERE OUT OF WORK. MM-HMM . NINE O'CLOCK MEETING, MAYBE WE'RE NOT GETTING, UM, AS MANY PEOPLE. BUT I DO WANT TO JUST ENSURE WITH REMOVING SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WE DO HAVE ENOUGH TIME, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE ANY ISSUE. AND THE 45 MINUTE WAS NOT, THAT WAS THE PRESENTATION PLUS THE COMMENTS. UH, DO YOU REMEMBER? I THINK IT WAS MORE OF JUST THE PRESENTATION THAN PROBABLY 15 MINUTES [00:30:01] TO 20 MINUTES OF, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT. SO MAYBE AN HOUR FOR THAT. OKAY. OKAY. THEN WE REALLY ONLY HAVE ABOUT TWO OR THREE OTHER VOTING ITEMS, FEE WAIVERS, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. OKAY. I MEAN, I MEAN YOU'RE THE TITLE ONE, THAT ONE MAY GO AWAY, RIGHT. SO I BELIEVE IT'LL, YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN SUSAN'S COMING TO THE MEETING, RIGHT? I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT. SHE'S NOT. OKAY. ALRIGHTY. SO ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. AND IT PASSES. OKAY. SO NOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NO ONE, NO ONE IS HERE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. WE WILL NOW GO TO ANNOUNCEMENTS. DO YOU HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? NONE. UM, I HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT. I HAVE THREE HOLIDAY PARTIES THAT RELATE TO MY DAILY JOB AT, FOR OUR NEXT GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE MEETING. SO UNFORTUNATELY I CANNOT BE HERE. OH, FOR NEXT MONTH? YEAH, FOR NEXT MONTH. SO, UM, I'LL NOT BE UNLESS YOU WANNA CHANGE THE TIME AND DATE, BUT, UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF COMMISSIONER REDFIELD WILL BE ABLE TO BE HERE FOR A QUORUM, SO YEAH. WE'LL, WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT LEADING UP TO THE OKAY. MEETING. BUT THANK YOU FOR LETTING US KNOW. OF COURSE. UM, SO HAVING SAID THAT, I THINK ON ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM STAFF, OKAY. SO HAVING SAID THAT, I THINK WE'RE AT THE ADJOURNMENT PART. SO IT IS NOW FIVE 17, UM, THAT TOOK LIKE 32 MINUTES. UM, I AM GONNA BE ADJOURNING THIS MEETING. YES. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.