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UH, SHERIFF'S REPORT THIS MORNING.
UM, THERE'S, UH, WE'RE WE'RE STILL ON THE HEELS OF, UH, AN EVENT THAT HAPPENED IN THE SHORE, WHICH IS NOT RELEVANT TO THIS COMMISSION, UH, FOR AGENDA ITEMS. AND WE DO HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM THIS MORNING, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
AND I'M NOT JUMPING AHEAD TO THAT, BUT, UH, I'M GONNA MAKE A FEW REMARKS, UH, AS THE CHAIR, WHICH I ASSERT THE CAN, UH, AND HOPE OF SOME CLARITY FOR FOLKS.
THERE'S BEEN SOME, UH, PUBLIC CHATTER OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS ABOUT THE OPPOSITION SPECIFICALLY OF THIS COMMISSION AND, UH, WHAT WE ARE COMPRISED OF.
AND THERE MIGHT BE SOME FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THINK THERE'S BIAS ON THIS COMMISSION, UH, OR WE'RE HERE FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN, UH, THAT'S INTERESTING, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
THE TRUTH IS THAT THERE ARE BORROWERS ON THIS COMMISSION.
THERE ARE TWO OF US, AND ONE OF US HAS BEEN ON THIS COMMISSION FOR MANY YEARS.
AND I HAVE ALWAYS STAYED FOCUSED ON WHAT'S BEST IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WHAT'S BEST IN THIS DISTRICT.
WHAT BAR ARE YOU ON? I'M NOT ANSWERING QUESTIONS, MA'AM.
UM, BUT I'LL TELL YOU, I'M LEGENDS AND THERE'S ANOTHER COMMISSIONER HERE THAT IS, UH, REFERENCE, UH, WE DON'T APPOINT OURSELVES.
THE COUNCILWOMAN DOES NOT APPOINT US.
UH, WE ARE NOT BIASED WITH REFERENCE TO THE BARS.
UH, STAY AS NEUTRAL AS POSSIBLE.
UH, THE BARS ARE NOT COMPENSATED FROM THIS COMMISSION.
THE BAR OWNERS ARE NOT COMPENSATED.
UH, OTHER THAN A STIPEND OF, WE CAN CHOOSE TO TAKE A $50 MEETING STIPEND, AND THAT'S PUBLIC RECORD.
THERE'S NO INHERENT BEND ON THIS COMMISSION IN FAVOR OF BARS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, THE COMPOSITE OF THIS COMMISSION, IT'S RESIDENT BASED, STAKEHOLDER BASED, AND BUSINESS OWNER BASED.
AND MY SUGGESTION FOR ANYBODY IN THIS COMMUNITY WANTS TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
TALK TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, GET ON A COMMISSION, RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL, RUN FOR MAYOR, AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE, UH, IN THE PUBLIC SPACE IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION.
SO THAT'S, UH, THE SHARED REPORT FROM THIS MORNING.
AND WITH THAT, WE'LL GO TO THE REGULAR AGENDA, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE BELMONT SHORT PARKING BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT AREA ADVISOR COMMISSION MEETING, A CLEAR DATE OCTOBER 23RD.
SO MOTION PUT IN A SECOND, SECOND, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS MATTER.
UH, ITEM TWO, RECOMMENDATION FOR PROCEED AND FILE LONG BEACH PUBLIC WORKS FINANCIAL REPORT DISCUSSING RATHER THAN DURING THE PERIOD ENDING OCTOBER 31ST, 2025.
AND WE'LL DO THE REPORT PLEASE, SIR.
UM, IF WE COULD LOOK TO PAGE EIGHT OF THE DOCUMENT TITLED, MONT SHORT WORKING METER.
WE'LL, GOING OVER REVENUES AS FOR OCTOBER, 2025, ROSE FOR OCTOBER, 2025, WE'VE HAD $138,796 IN REVENUE.
THAT IS UP 40% COMPARED TO LAST FISCAL YEAR.
THIS SAME TIME LAST YEAR, WE ARE UP ABOUT 15% VERSUS LAST FISCAL YEAR.
KEEP IN MIND, THIS IS ONLY THE FIRST MONTH OF OUR NEW FISCAL YEAR, 2026, UM, WHICH MAKES OUR ESTIMATED FUND BALANCE TO $130,719.
THAT IS ESTIMATED UNTIL INITIAL FISCAL YEAR FOR 2025 OFFICIALLY CLOSES NEXT MONTH.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE ON PAGE NINE THAT THE ESTIMATED BUDGET FOR THE END OF FISCAL YEAR 2025 IS ATTACHED.
AND SEE THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT A PROTECTED LOSS OF 155,000, BRINGING OUR FISCAL YEAR BEING BOND
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BALANCE TO $354,048.THAT WAS AS OF SEPTEMBER 30TH, OCTOBER 1ST, WE HAD MADE A $200,000 PAYMENT FOR OUR DEBT SERVICE.
OUR DEBT SERVICE IS PLEDGED TO REPAY DEBT ASSOCIATED WITH COSTS IN THE COMMUNITY FACILITIES DISTRICT 2007 DASH TWO IN THE BELMONT SHORE.
THAT PAYMENT HAS BROUGHT OUR FUND BALANCE DOWN TO ABOUT 130,000.
UM, WE NO LONGER, WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE NOW MADE THAT PAYMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026.
SO WE WILL NOT HAVE TO MAKE THIS PAYMENT AGAIN UNTIL NEXT YEAR.
OCTOBER, 2026 WILL BE THE NEXT PAYMENT.
WHEN DO YOU ASSUME, SIR, THAT SEE THE PROJECTION? WELL, I DON'T SEE A PROJECTION.
I SEE THE 2025, UH, NUMBER FOR SECURITY.
HAVE WE DONE PROJECTIONS FOR, WOULD YOU ASSUME WE CAN INCREASE, UH, SECURITY TO EVEN THROUGH THE FIRST QUARTER OF 26? WE'LL NEED TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT THE NEXT NUMBERS ARE GONNA BE.
I'LL BE ABLE TO PRESENT THAT MORE IN THE JANUARY MEETING WHEN WE HAVE OFFICIALLY CLOSED THE FISCAL YEAR AND WE CAN SEE A COUPLE OF MONTHS OF REVENUE WITH THE NEW METER CHANGE.
UM, WE CURRENTLY HAVE AN RFP OUT FOR SECURITY SERVICES THAT WILL BE AS NEEDED, UM, IN A, DUE TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT.
UM, UNTIL WE GET THOSE PROPOSALS BACK, I WON'T HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH THAT WILL BE.
UM, I ESTIMATE IT WILL BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN TWO TO 300,000.
UM, LAST YEAR WE SPENT ABOUT 237,000 IN SECURITY.
AND AS A, AS NEEDED SERVICE, WE'RE GONNA NEED SOMEWHERE BETWEEN TWO TO 302 CONTINUE OPERATING WHERE WE ARE.
SO I'D LIKE TO PUT AN ASTERISK ON THAT AND, AND PUSH A LITTLE OF THAT DIALOGUE AT ITEM FIVE THIS MORNING.
UH, JUST SO WE'RE, WE'RE ALL OF REFERENCE ON THAT NUMBER.
UH, AND WHEN WE GET TO ITEM FIVE, WE CAN DISCUSS, UH, THE ELASTICITY OF THAT NUMBER GOING 0.6 AND THE NEED FOR IT TO BEST LEGAL FOR THAT TIME.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WHO IS THE RFP EXPECTED TO LEAVE CONCLUDED FOR
UM, I'LL BE GONNA START THE TRANSITION TO A NEW SECURITY TEAM IN, UH, SPRING OF 2026.
AND THE CURRENT CONTRACT ENDS WHEN CURRENT CONTRACT IS, UH, ENDED AS OF SEPTEMBER 30TH.
SO WE ARE, THAT'S THE WORD, MONTH, MONTH.
UH, BELIEVE ON THE INTERIM WE HAVE NEW SECURITY SERVICES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MR. UH, PLEASE.
UH, THE CLEANING SERVICES, UM, I WAS LOOKING AT THAT, UM, DIFFERENCE.
THAT'S BECAUSE WE WENT FROM ION OH CHAMBER TO THE NEW COMPANY, WHICH WAS SELECTED THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WE NO, FOR
UH, THAT'S WHAT BACK PENDING SERVICE EXPENSE FOR FY 25 IS WHAT THEY SAID, BUT I THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT FOR SECTION.
BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE CONTRACT WITH CONSERVATION WORK AND THEIR, UH, WHAT THEY CHARGE TO THE CITY, UH, IS REFLECTIVE IN AN OUT OF CONTRACT CONTRACT RATE.
AND, UH, THE CLEANING RP HAS GONE, GONE A CITY COUNCIL AND BEEN APPROVED.
SO THE ATTORNEYS DRAFTING UP THE DOCUMENTS TO SIGN THE CONTRACT WITH OUR, UM, NEW VENDOR.
SO WE'RE EXPECTED HAVE A NEW VENDOR IN EARLY 2026.
YEAH, WE'RE AT THE END, VERY END.
WHAT MEAN? WE'RE AT THE VERY BEGINNING OR AT THE BEGINNING DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON, UH, ADAM? YEAH, COULD YOU REMIND ME IF THE PRESSURE WASHING IS PART OF THE CLEANING SERVICES NOW OR GOING FORWARD? YEAH, FOR GOING FORWARD.
PRESSURE WASHING WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE CLEANING SERVICES, BUT IN THE FAST ITSEPARATE, NOT SPECIFIC.
SO THAT'S PART OF THE, THE, THE QUESTION.
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OKAY.WE HAVE A, UH, MOTION AND THERE A SECOND, A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
I, SO I'M, I DON'T, CAN WE ASK QUESTIONS? YOU CAN MAKE A STATEMENT, BUT WE'RE NOT ANSWERING QUESTIONS NOW.
UM, SO YOU STATE, YOU GOTTA STATE YOUR NAME AND, OKAY.
AND I'M A RESIDENT IN THE AREA.
SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR EXPLANATION ABOUT THE INCREASE IN THE CLEANING LINE ITEM BECAUSE IT USED TO BE DONE BY CITY.
NOW I HAVE A CONTRACTOR, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE A HUGE NUMBER.
AND SO I'M JUST CURIOUS LIKE WHAT THE REASON IS OF, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE NICE TO, FOR HELP TO GET A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT EXACTLY THAT LINE ITEM IS PAINFUL AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IT THAT IS REQUIRING SUCH A HUGE PORTION OF ANNUAL BUDGET TO SPENT ON CLEANING.
AND THEN ON SECURITY, IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS THAT THE PREVIOUS SECURITY CONTRACTOR IS PHYSICAL FAILURE.
AND I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE BID OUT AND YOU'RE LOOKING TO REPLACE THAT CONTRACTOR, IT SOUNDS LIKE.
SO GIVEN THAT THE CITY HAS JUST PASSED THE, UM, YOU KNOW, A DIRECTIVE TO THE CITY MANAGER TO TAKE A LOOK AT ALL OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WERE GOING ON IN SECOND STREET, PERHAPS NOW'S THE TIME TO PUT A PAUSE ON HIRING A NEW SECURITY FIRM.
HOW THAT THEY EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING, GIVEN AGAIN, THE OBVIOUS FAILURE OF THE PREVIOUS FIRM.
SO I'M JUST SUGGESTING THAT MAYBE BEFORE SPENDING ANOTHER OVER $200,000 ON POTENTIALLY ANOTHER FAILURE, UM, TO ALLOW THE STUDENT TO DO THIS PROCESS AND COME BACK AND SAY, HOW CAN WHAT THIS BODY DOES AND SPENDS MONEY ON, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT WHATEVER THE CITY COMES UP WITH AND WHAT THE RESIDENTS WANNA SEE.
UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? UH, YES MA'AM.
UH, TRISH GREENBERG, I LIVE OFF THE STREET FOR 30 SOME YEARS, UH, IN 9 1 0 3 30 SOME YEARS.
AND SECOND STREET HAS NEVER BEEN WHAT IT IS NOW.
AND LOCALS DON'T EVEN WANNA GO DOWN PAST EIGHT, NINE O'CLOCK.
I THINK THAT THE SECURITY ON SECOND STREET IS, UM, A WEEK.
LIKE SHE'S SAYING IT'S YOUNG KIDS ON BIKES, ON THEIR CELL PHONES, JUST CHATTING AMONGST EACH OTHER.
CHATTING OVER HERE BEHIND LEFT AND DOWN WITH THE SECURITY GUARD AS MENTIONED.
UM, I'VE READ AND THEN, UH, I SEEN, UH, SO FAR AS SECURITY, ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES I THINK IS THE PARKING LOT BEHIND PAMELA JOE'S.
AS FAR AS SECURITY, I'M STAYING ON TOPIC WITH SECURITY.
UM, IT IS BEING PROMOTED OUT OF THE AREA ON DIFFERENT, UM, SOCIAL MEDIA SITES TO COME ON IN AND TAILGATE PARTY AT NIGHT, ON THE WEEKENDS AND BRING YOUR OWN RED CUP, BRING YOUR OWN BOOZE, AND GET YOUR FOOD FROM THE FOOD CARTS.
AND THEY'RE JUST PARTYING ON A LOT.
AREN'T YOU SCARED TO GO DOWN THERE AT NIGHT AND SEE IT? BUT MY FRIENDS LIVE TWO DOORS OVER AND THERE'S SEX GOING ON IN THAT PARKING LOT.
THERE'S YELLING, THERE'S PARTYING, THERE'S DRUG USE, THERE'S DRUG SELLING.
SO WHERE IS THE SECURITY BACK THERE? I NOTICED IT'S OWNED BY LONG BEACH.
THEY NEED TO HAVE A TENANT, A TENANT BACK THERE, WHAT IT'S CALLED, A PARKING TENANT BACK THERE THAT MONITORS THAT LOT.
PANAMA JO SAYS IT'S NOT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY, BUT IT IS SOMEBODY'S, IT'S A MESS BACK THERE.
AND SO IF THERE WAS A TENANT ATTENDANT, SECURITY ATTENDANT OR EVEN JUST A TENANT THERE, IT WOULD CHEW THEM OFF, I WOULD SAY.
AND IT HAS BEEN MUCH QUIETER SINCE THEY CLOSED THE BARS DOWN EARLY.
I HAVEN'T HEARD THE HELICOPTERS SIREN YELLING SINCE THEY'VE CLOSED THE BARS EARLY.
BUT JUST GO BACK TO THE MAIN, I THINK ONE OF THE ISSUES IS SOCIAL EATING OF PROMOTING THAT PARKING LOT BEHIND PANAMA JOE'S.
AND IF YOU GUYS WANNA GO DOWN AND PARTY IT UP OUT A AREA, PEOPLE FROM FOUR 40 NINER SOCIAL COMMUNITY FROM MAYWOOD, SOMETHING OR OTHER.
AND THERE'S ONE MORE I HEARD ABOUT.
I GO BACK THERE AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.
UM, AND WE GOTTA OPEN OUR EYES TO IT.
YOUR COMMENT, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT CONTINUES.
I JUST LIKE BRIAN COCHRAN, BELMONT SHORE RESIDENCE.
I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A BRIEF OBSERVATION THAT, UH, PUBLIC RECORDS REVEALED THAT THE CONTRACT FOR THE NEW CLEANING SERVICES WAS, UH, SELECTED IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR.
AND YET THE CHAIR OF THIS BODY HAS NOT STATED ANYTHING PUBLICLY REGARDING THAT CONTRACT, HOW IT'S GOING TO BE ENACTED, BUT IT'S CONTINUED GO THROUGH THE THEATER WITH THE CONSERVATION CORPS AS THEY PLAY OUT LAST THE MONTHS OF THIS CONTRACT.
AND THIS, UH, BODY MAKES, ITS, WANTS EVERYONE TO THINK IT'S TRANSPARENT, BUT THERE'S NOT BEEN A SINGLE MENTION OF THE
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NEW CONTRACT EXISTING SINCE MARCH ALREADY AND BEING PLACED, NOR HOW ITS RFP WAS CREATED OR HOW THE PUBLIC WAS ENGAGED ON ANY PART OF THAT.UH, AGAIN, A FAILING OF THIS BODY AND CHAIRMAN IN PARTICULAR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES, MA'AM.
UM, REGARDING THE RFP, FOR THE SECURITY, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE READ IT, APPARENTLY IF
SO IT'S WRITTEN IN A VERY ODD FASHION.
AND IF YOU WANNA READ, I THINK WE FIND IT, HAVE LONG BEACH EYES, NOT SURE, AND IT'LL COME, BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THE SECURITY RFP WAS WRITTEN AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET OUT OF IT.
AND I HOPE EVERYBODY WILL READ IT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT BEFORE THEY DECISION.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? I SECURITY.
UH, PUBLIC COMMENT IS BOTH ON I TWO, WE HAVE A LISTING.
ALL IN FAVOR OF RECEIVING THE REPORT FOR FINANCIAL REPORT.
ITEM THREE RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE THE FILE ON THESE TRANSIT BOARD BUS PASS PROGRAM STATUS FOR 25.
UH, TITLE BSDA, BOARDINGS AND RIDER.
MAYBE BE LOOKING AT THE MONTH OF OCTOBER, THE 2025, UM, OUT THE 1,336, UH, ESTIMATED EMPLOYEES FOR SECOND STREET.
WE HAVE 209 RIDERS AND WE HAVE ABOUT 6,645 BOARDINGS.
BOTH RIDERSHIP AND BOARDINGS ARE UP FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
AND WE HAVE ALSO, IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, PAGE 11 IN C BOARDINGS BY BUSINESS, THE EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE BEEN USING THE BUS PROGRAM BY BUSINESS.
YOU CAN SEE LAST TIME WE SPOKE, UM, THERE WERE SOME DUPLICATES.
THOSE DUPLICATES HAVE BEEN CHANGED AND FIXED.
WE NOW SEE A NEW LIST, UH, FOR THE TOTAL OF THE 6,645 WRITERS.
IS THAT, IS THAT A OBJECTION? NO, THE 2026 IS OUR, WE'RE IN THE FIRST MONTH OF FISCAL YEAR 2026.
I KNOW THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE CONFUSING.
BUT, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT OCTOBER, 2025, WHICH IS THE FIRST MONTH OF OUR 20 26 6 FISCAL YEAR.
SO THAT IN, IF WE LOOK AT THE WORDINGS, UM, THE BLUE LABEL FOR 2026 IS 6,645.
OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR WE HAD 5,010.
AND IN RIDERSHIP THIS MONTH OR PREVIOUS MONTH, WE HAD 209 WRITERS.
AND THAT SAME TIME LAST YEAR WE HAD 161.
AND CAN WE REMIND, UM, EVERYONE IN THE ROOM WHEN WE SEE AN INVOICE TOTAL OF 49 83 75, UH, THE, UH, THE FUND THAT, THAT, THAT LEASE COMES OUT OF YOU PROVIDE PERMISSION, UM, THAT ESTABLISHING HOW LONG THAT LASTS.
SO YOU WON BAIL ABOVE ON THIS YEAR BASIS THAT $4,983 IS, UM, PAID OUT OF THE CITY, NOT OUT BELMONT NEW FUND.
THAT IS AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH AND LONG BEACH TRANSIT.
THAT LONG BEACH TRANSIT AGREEMENT ENDS ON DECEMBER 31ST, UH, THIS YEAR.
BUT WE ARE GOING TO COUNCIL IN DECEMBER TO EXTEND THAT ANOTHER YEAR WITH THE OPTION TO ADD ANOTHER TWO YEARS TO IT.
SO THE BUS PROGRAM IS, IS CONTINUING FOR THE NEXT YEAR, AND WE'LL HAVE THE OPTION TO RENEW AFTER THAT TWO, FOR TWO ADDITIONAL YEARS.
SO 2026 WILL BE THE, THE NEW YEAR OF THE AMEN OF THE CONTRACT FOR, AND AGAIN, THIS DOES NOT GO OUT AND GET PART EITHER CLINIC.
THIS SAYS PAGE FOUR ON ON THE CITY ONE SIDE.
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GRANT.UH, COMMISSIONER HAS ANY QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE A MOTION? WE HAVE A SECOND, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT ON BUS PASS PROGRAM.
UM, SO THE, UH, BUSINESSES THAT HAVE THE MOST EMPLOYEES, I WOULD ASSUME ARE RESTAURANTS AND BARS.
UM, ROSE IS NOT ON HERE AT ALL.
UM, AND I HAD, I TAKE THE BUS EVERY SINGLE DAY AND, UM, I'VE BEEN AT THE BUS STOP TALKING TO, UH, FOLKS AND THERE WAS SOME ROWINGS, WELL THERE'S ONE ROW EMPLOYEE, EMPLOYEE HAD A ROW, YOU KNOW, T-SHIRT ON AND STUFF.
AND I ASKED, I TOLD HIM ABOUT THE, THE BUS PROGRAM AND HE HAD NO IDEA.
AND THEN THE NEXT DAY I ENDED UP TALKING TO TWO OTHER ROW EMPLOYEES.
THEY HAD NO IDEA THAT THE BUS CODE BANK EXISTED.
SO, UM, I KNOW HEATHER'S DONE A LOT OF WORK, BUT I'M HOPING THAT, UM, THE COMMISSION CAN ENSURE THAT ALL OF THE RESTAURANTS AND BARS AND SPECIFICALLY IN THIS CASE ROW, UH, WHICH IS A HUGE SPACE NOW THAT THEY HAVE THAT BACK PATIO, UM, DOES A BETTER JOB AT TELLING THEIR EMPLOYEES ABOUT IT.
UH, GIVEN THAT THIS IS FUNDED BY STATE AND OR CITY GRANT FUNDING, AND THE DATA HERE SHOWS 209 RIDERS, THE RELEVANCE OF COMPARATIVES AND MEANINGFUL DATA BEHIND THAT IS ESSENTIAL HERE.
UM, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY EMPLOYEES ARE, I ASSUME THERE'S THOUSANDS OF PART-TIME EMPLOYEES IN GRAND TOTAL, BUT TOUTING THE GAINS OF THIS MONTH TO MONTH IS ALMOST MEANINGLESS IN CONTEXT.
AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF A PROPORTIONAL DIFFERENCE IT'S MAKING OVER OVERALL.
UH, I HAVE ASKED FOR THIS DATA FOR OVER A YEAR.
UH, RYAN KNOW OUT THERE, OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE ASKED FOR IT PREVIOUSLY.
WE STILL SEE NOTHING COMPARATIVE.
I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S SO DIFFICULT TO CONJURE THAT KIND OF THING GIVEN THAT THE BELMONT BUSINESS ASSOCIATION, OF WHICH YOU ARE THE CHAIR AND THE HEAD OF, UH, HAS THAT DATA ABOUT THE, SO THE SUM TOTAL OF HOW MANY EMPLOYEES MIGHT EXIST HERE.
SO, UM, LET'S, LET'S, I SUGGEST WE DISREGARD THIS ITEM MONTH TO MONTH UNTIL THERE'S THAT MEANINGFUL DATA ADDED TO IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENT.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? WELL, I QUESTION, UH, STATED AS IT THAT IS A FACT.
UM, WHAT IS THE, I LIVE HERE LONG, WHAT IS THIS BUS PROGRAM? I'VE NEVER HEARD OF IT, SO IT'S MAKING YOUR POINT RIGHT THERE.
OKAY, LET ME CLARIFY, LET FINISH.
THE BUS PASS PROGRAM EXISTS AS A PUBLIC SERVICE FINANCING WORK AND BRAND.
UH, IT'S NOT TAX DOLLARS THAT PROVIDES FREE BUS RIDES FOR EMPLOYEES OF THE SHORE TO COME TO AND FROM WORK.
UH, SO THAT IT ALLEVIATES THE NEED FOR PARKING SPACE AND CARS IN PARKING SPACES BY EMPLOYEES.
SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT ON THAT.
THERE, THERE NEEDS TO BE A FLYER THAT GOES OUT TO ALL OF THE PLACES ON SECOND STREET.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE BARS WITH THIS PROGRAM LAID OUT IN A FLYER.
UH, JUST SIMPLE TO LET THEM KNOW ABOUT IT.
'CAUSE THEY MUST NOT KNOW ABOUT IT.
I MEAN, I JUST READ RECENTLY SOMEBODY THAT WORKED AT ONE OF THE BARS WAS LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY TO RIDE SHARE TO THEIR JOB AT, UH, SHANNON'S, UM, BECAUSE IT'S LATE AT NIGHT AND THEY WANT A RIDE SHARE.
PROBABLY IF HE KNEW ABOUT THIS, HE WOULD.
UM, AND ONE OTHER STATEMENT, UH, I'D LIKE TO LIKE TO KNOW, UM, HOW THE PARKING COMMISSION PEOPLE ARE ASSIGNED.
ARE YOU VOTED IN YEARLY? UM, OR HOW ARE YOU ASSIGNED THIS POSITION? AND THEN NUMBER TWO, I THINK IT'S, UM, QUITE INTERESTING THAT THE BELMONT SHORE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION, THE PARKING COMMISSION IS THE LEADER, IS THE OWNER OF ONE OF THE MAIN TROUBLE BARS.
UH, ANY OTHER TROUBLE COMMENT? YES, MA'AM.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND THE BUS SCHEDULES.
THERE ARE TWO BUSES THAT COME TO SECOND STREET FOR 1 21 AND THEN WHEN IT GOES UP TO REDONDO, BUT THOSE USUALLY DON'T GET TO THE SHORE OR COME INTO THE SHORE TILL FIVE 30 OR SO IN THE MORNING, WHICH MEANS THAT BUSINESSES START EARLY, THE EMPLOYEES CAN'T GET THERE AND THEY STOP AND ABOUT 10 OR 10 30 AT NIGHT.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUS SCHEDULE, YOU REALIZE IT DOES NOT WORK
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FOR OUR EMPLOYEES OR LATE NIGHT THE REST OF THE SHORE.SO I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE THAT BACK INTO ACCOUNT AS WE TALK ABOUT VARIOUS WAYS TO DEAL WITH PARTNER SECURITY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENT.
UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? YES, MA'AM.
ONE LAST, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT THAT I DON'T KNOW IF THE EMPLOYEES CAN PARK IN THE CITY A LOT BEHIND PANAMAS, BUT IF THEY COULD, IT WOULD TAKE UP SOME OF THOSE PARKING SPOTS THAT THESE OUT AREA PEOPLE ARE COMING IN AND PARTYING THEN.
UH, WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND, UH, ON ITEM THREE.
WE RECEIVED THE FILE STATUS UPDATES ON CONSERVATION FOR OF LONG BEACH WORK IN THE MONT SHORE AREA, INCLUDING, UH, RESPONSES TO REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE FOR OCTOBER, 2025.
TAKE A CONFIRMATION BEFORE WE'RE READY FOR THE REPORT.
WE'RE THE, THE CONSERVATION CORPS OF LONG BEACH.
UM, WE DO MOST OF THE, UM, SIDEWALK SWEEPING.
WE EMPTY THE TRASH BINS, BIG VALLEYS.
UM, WE'VE ALSO DONE CENTER MEDIUMS. UM, AND WE'RE THIS IN BETWEEN SLOT RIGHT OF LIKE TRANSITION AND IT'S BEEN
UM, YEAH, SO FOR UPDATES, UH, EVERYTHING'S PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.
NORMAL, UM, OR AVERAGE USUAL
UM, THERE, I KNOW AS FAR AS AS SOME REQUESTS, WE CALLED MIKE BRIDGES, UH, PROJECT MANAGER.
UM, WE HAVE HAD A FEW REQUESTS AS FAR AS
THOSE ARE COMING DIRECTLY FROM THE CITY, I GUESS, THROUGH THE, UM, THE GO LONG BEACH APP.
SO I, THEY HAVE A LONG RELATIONSHIP WITH ME, SO AS I GET TO BE ADDRESSED.
AND THEY SPECIFICALLY REQUEST ON THE SECOND STREET.
UH, AND THEN I THINK THERE WAS ADDITIONAL REQUESTS FOR PARKING LOT CLEANING AS WELL.
AND ONE OF THE LOTS WAS THE PAT JOE'S PARKING LOT.
SO WE'VE BEEN ADDRESSING THAT AS WE'VE BEEN GOING, GOING ALONG.
UM, OUTSIDE OF THAT, NOTHING REALLY MAJOR.
UM, I KNOW WE JUST RECEIVED A REQUEST TO EXTEND OUR SERVICES, UH, WHICH WE DID AGREE TO DO.
UH, WE DID SEND, UH, A NEW PAF ORION FOR APPROVAL, AND THAT REQUEST WILL EXTEND THROUGH THE END OF FEBRUARY, 2026.
ANY QUESTION? UM, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T THAT WAY TOO, BUT GET AN UPDATE ON TRASHCAN SITUATION.
WE'RE LOOKING, WE, WE THINK WE'VE FOUND A TRASHCAN THAT WILL BOTH SERVE AS SOMETHING THAT'S CHEAPER AND EASIER TO MAINTAIN THAN BIG BELLIES.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING ON GETTING THAT WITHIN THE NEXT THREE MONTHS, UH, PROBABLY ABOUT FIVE TO EIGHT NEW TRASH CANS TO SEE IF THEY, THEY WORK.
UM, AND THEN IF WE ARE HAPPY WITH HOW THEY ARE IN TERMS OF CLEANING AND IF THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, UP TO SPEC, THEN WE WILL, WE'LL ADD MORE AND CONTINUE TO REPLACE MORE DAMAGE BIG BELLIES WITH
SO AS AN UPDATE, UH, FOR ERS AND THOSE THAT ARE HERE, UH, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE ONGOING USE OF BIG BELLIES.
UH, THESE ARE, SOME OF THESE UNITS ARE COMPLETELY AUTOMATED.
UH, THEY'RE SOLAR POWER OR THEY COMPACT GARBAGE.
UH, THEY HAVE COMPLICATED LOCKING MECHANISMS THERE.
WHAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING, UH, FOR MANY, MANY, MANY MONTHS, UH, IS THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE, THE ONGOING COST OF, OF MAINTAINING THESE UNITS.
THESE UNITS ARE, ARE EXPENSIVE.
THEY WERE EXPENSIVE FROM THE BEGINNING, THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE IS EXPENSIVE.
SO WE'RE NOW DISCUSSING REPLACING, UH, AS THEY BECOME
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DILAPIDATED, UH, WITH SIMILAR, UH, GARBAGE RECEPTACLES THAT DON'T REQUIRE AS MUCH MAINTENANCE.UM, WE KNOW THAT THE GARBAGE CANS ENSURE GET EMPTY ON A DAILY BASIS, SO THE COMPACTING ISN'T AS CRITICAL, UH, AS ONCE THOUGHT.
UH, SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON AN ONGOING BASIS TO TRY TO, UH, BRING COSTS IN ORDER, UH, AND THE MAINTENANCE THAT IT TAKES TO, TO TAKE CARE OF THESE BIG BELLIES.
UH, SO THAT'S A PART OF THIS DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO THE CITY IS LOOKING AT PUBLIC WORKS, LOOKING AT LOTS OF DIFFERENT, UH, BOTTLES OR GARBAGE STANDS, UH, THAT OR GETTING INTO 'EM THAT YOU CAN'T TAKE THE LID OFF AND DUMP STUFF OUT.
UH, ALL THE THINGS THAT, THAT WE THINK ARE IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY, WE TRYING TO LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT ANGLES AND CONSERVATION CORPS HAS BEEN, UH, INTEGRAL IN THE MAINTENANCE OF THESE, UH, UNITS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
AND JUST TO REMIND EVERYONE HERE, THAT THE ORIGINAL COST FOR THIS PROGRAM, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WAS ROUGHLY $250,000, UH, TO TAKE OUT.
THE CEMENT GARBAGE CANS ARE REPLACING WITH THESE BIG BOEING UNITS.
UH, AND IT WAS CONTROVERSIAL ALL THE TIME THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY WASN'T THOUGHT ABOUT 10, 12 YEARS AGO WAS, UH, THE ONGOING COST OF MAINTAINING IS THINGS.
SO THAT'S THE WHAT HAS, UH, PUR FACILITATING SUPPORT
SO, UM, I HOW TOTAL WOULD FOR ENSURE GUY INDIVIDUAL
SO IF WOULD LIKE WE CAN YEAH, EXACT NUMBER.
THE EXACT NUMBER IS IMPORTANT.
IT'S, IT'S THE, THE, THE, THE THEME OF IT IS THAT, RIGHT? THESE THINGS ARE JUST REALLY, REALLY EXPENSIVE TO MAINTAIN.
UM, SOME DON'T WORK AT ALL, UH, MEANING THE FOOT PEDALS DON'T WORK OR THE CLOTHES, UH, OR THE COMPACT AREN'T WORK ANYMORE.
AND CONSERVATION BOARD HAS, HAS DUTIFULLY TRIED TO PIECE THEM TOGETHER.
UH, WE'VE GOT REPLACEMENT PIECES FROM THE COMPANY.
UH, IT IS BEEN KIND OF A CUMBERSOME PROJECT.
UH, AND THAT'S WHAT, UH, IS PRECIPITATE FOR SOMETHING SIMPLE.
WE WILL GO TO, CAN WE WAIT UNTIL WE GET TO COME A COMMENT, PLEASE? I'LL, UH, SO WHO'S READY? GO AHEAD.
I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY IT'S HARD SANITATION.
UM, SECOND STREET, IF YOU WALK YOUR DOG EARLY IN THE MORNING, THERE'S HUMAN FECES.
THERE'S JUST TRASH EVERYWHERE.
AND, UM, THERE USED TO BE, UH, IN THE MORNING, THE POWER WASHING.
AND SO MY NEIGHBOR SENT IN A COMPLAINT JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO ABOUT THE HUMAN FECES AND WALKING HIS DOG, AND IT'S JUST SO FILTHY.
AND THEY SENT HIM AN OLD PICTURE OF WHEN THEY WERE POWER WATCHING AND SAID THAT, THAT THEY STILL, THAT THEY CALL AND WATCH SECOND STREET EVERY DAY.
I DON'T KNOW, I, I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT IN YEARS.
BUT, UH, MY SUGGESTION IS TO START POWER WASHING AGAIN, THE STREETS OF SECOND STREET, BECAUSE THEY'RE SO DIRTY.
ALSO, NUMBER TWO IS THIS, UH, ABOUT WHEN, WHEN YOU WALK BY THE TRASH CANS BEHIND THE BUILDINGS, UH, THERE'S ONE BEHIND THE SALON,
THE GAP BUILDING TRASH EVERYWHERE THERE.
IF SO, I DON'T KNOW WHO'S IN CHARGE OF PICKING THAT ALL UP, BUT THOSE TRASH CANS BEHIND THE BUILDINGS, UH, NOT ALL.
I'M SURPRISED SOME OF THE BARS ARE REALLY CLEAN.
THEY NEED, IT NEEDS TO BE, UM, KEPT CLEAN.
JUST BILL, MY SHO IS GONNA JUST BE LIKE, SANTA MONICA WOULD KEEP NOT WANTING TO COME HERE ANYMORE.
UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION.
MUCH APPRECIATE THE, UH, EMAIL MOTION WE HAVE SECOND, UH, ALL IN FAVOR RECEIVING THE REPORT.
UH, ITEM FIVE, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A DISCUSSION, UH, REGARDING AFTER HOURS ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING NOISE AND SAFETY, THAT CITY OF PARKING LOTS, UH, IN BEAUMONT SHORE.
UH, OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, THE COMMISSION, UH, HAS DISCUSSED AND WE ARE,
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AND WE ARE PREPARED TO MAKE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS CITY COUNCIL FOR SOME POINTS.AND I WANT TO REMIND COMMISSIONERS, UH, OF THOSE COURT POINTS FOR OUR QUESTION THIS MORNING ABOUT THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
BUT THE TIMING, UH, IS A LITTLE MORE, UH, UH, CONDUCIVE NOW FOR ENHANCED LIGHTING, UH, IN THE CITY ON THE PARKING LOTS.
UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE PARKING COMMISSION CAN, UH, RECOMMEND THAT FUNDS FOR, UH, IS ADDING ADDITIONAL LIGHTS TO THESE PARKING LOTS, UH, TO CONSIDERABLY BRIGHTEN IT UP.
UH, WE HAD CONVERSATIONS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, UH, ABOUT LIGHTS GOING THIS DIRECTION, THE LIGHTS COMING THIS DIRECTION.
AND, UH, I THINK THAT WE'D LIKE TO ADD, UH, AN ADDITIONAL ELEMENT TO CONSIDER FOR PUBLIC WORK.
CONSIDER THE LIGHTS GOING STRAIGHT DOWN INTO THESE PARKING LOTS SO THAT IT WON'T ADVERSELY AFFECT THE MAINTENANCE, UH, TO THE LATERAL OF THE PARKING LOT.
UH, THE SECOND BULLET POINT IS ATTENDANT, UH, PARKING, UH, IN THESE LOTS FROM CERTAIN HOURS, UH, WOULD, WOULD INCLUDE THE, UH, UH, DISCUSSION FROM THE VISION OF DYNAMIC PRICING, UH, TO DRAMATICALLY INCREASE THE AMOUNT THAT IT WOULD, UH, COST TO PARK IN THOSE PARKING LOTS.
AND THEN THAT INCREASED COST, UH, DEFERRED THE COST THEM ATTENDING TO BE IN THOSE LOTS.
UH, SO WE WANT, UH, CITY STAFF
AND THIRD BULLET POINT, UH, IS THE EGRESS FROM THOSE PARKING LOTS, UH, TO NORTH RATHER, BUT SOUTH.
UH, SO YOU CAN'T GO ONE DIRECTIONS OR, OR ON
SO THE PEOPLE COMING OUT OF THOSE PARKING LOTS CAN'T GO DOWN THE S SIDE STREET.
UH, AND WE THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS A FURTHERMENT OF MITIGATING, UH, SOME OF THE, UH, UH, DISRUPTION, UH, LATER IN THE EVENING.
AS THE BUSINESSES, UH, CLOSED AND PEOPLE LEAVE FROM HAVING DINNER AND WHATNOT, UH, THEY DON'T HAVE TO EXIT STRAIGHT ONTO SECOND STREET.
SO THOSE ARE THREE OF THE, THE MAIN BULLET POINTS YOU COME UP WITH, AND WE WANT TO, UH, PUSH THOSE TO CITY COUNCIL.
UM, THE, THE MOST, UH, RODNEY, ONE OF THOSE, UH, THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED WITH COUNCIL
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL, UH, SHOULD COME SOONER THAN LATER, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS IT.
WE TALK ABOUT THAT THIS MORNING.
SO I'LL OPEN UP FOR COMMISSIONER AGAIN.
I WILL, UM, I SUPPORT EVERYTHING YOU JUST RECOMMENDED, BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADD, SEE IF WE COULD GET THE SUBSTATION DOCUMENT.
IT WAS GREAT WHEN WE HAD, WELL, IF I, IF I THOUGHT THERE WAS A BRIDGE THAT, THAT FUNDS THAT WE ADJUDICATED, THIS COMMISSION COULD WORK IN THAT DIRECTION, I WOULD, I JUST DON'T SEE THE BRIDGE ON THOSE BUCKET.
I MEAN, IT'S A GREAT, UH, SUGGESTION THAT WE CAN RECOMMEND, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT, THAT OUR FUNDING CAN SUPPORT THAT IN THE LANGUAGE CHARTER
UM, YOU KNOW, AS A REMINDER, SECURITY, UM, WE WENT THROUGH CITY ATTORNEY, UH, OVER SEVERAL MONTHS TO, UH, SATISFY THE REQUIREMENT OF THE DOLLARS FOR PARKING COMMISSION TO PAY FOR SECURITY.
AND WE ALL REMEMBER THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S, UH, SOLUTION TO THAT WAS THAT SECURITY IS FIRST AND FOREMOST PROTECTING CITY ASSETS.
UM, SO IMPORTANT FOR FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, THIS COMMISSION THINKS THAT SECURITY IS VERY IMPORTANT.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF OPINIONS ON IT, BUT THE CITY, UH, UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST, UH, TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT IT FITS THE CHARTER, THE ORDINANCE OF THE PARKING COMMISSION, UH, SECURITY'S MAIN FOCUS IS TO PROTECT CITY ASSETS.
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ELSE TO CONSIDER, UH, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE ALLOCATION OF FUNDS TO DO THAT.UH, SO ANY OF THE COMMENTS ON PARKING BUS, COMMISSIONER CASTRO? WELL, I, IN TERMS OF THE, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE CITY ASSETS FOR WHAT YOU'VE MENTIONED, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD REMINDER.
AND IN OUR LAST MEETING WE DID DISCUSS CLEARLY EXTENSIVELY THESE OPTIONS.
AND COMMISSIONER ARDS YOU MENTIONED ABOUT
BECAUSE WE HAD FEEDBACK THAT EVEN THE KIND JOE HAD AN ADDITIONAL WAY NOW THAT THEY SOLVED, WE, WE'VE HAD OTHER SUCCESS THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, THERE'S STILL ISSUES.
UM, AND THIS DOVETAILS INTO WHAT HAPPENED, THE, WHAT WAS DISCUSSED AND APPROVED OF THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING WHERE THERE IS A STUDY, YOU KNOW, A 45 DAY STUDY THAT CITY STAFF HAS TO COME BACK WITH RELATED TO ALL SAFETY, WHICH WOULD COME, WHAT WAS, UH, PLACE RECOMMENDED.
UH, SO I THINK WE HAVE TO STAY ON THE PATH OF WHAT WE, WE, AS THE PARKING COMMISSION CAN DO TO, TO MAKE SURE OUR, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS OCCURRED AS PART OF THAT OVERALL PLAN OF WHATEVER WE CAN ACTUALLY BE A PART OF IN TERMS OF CONTRIBUTING THAT.
SO THAT WOULD BE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF IT'S NOT JUST LIGHTING, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE USE ATTENDANT AND THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DYNAMIC PRICING.
THOSE ARE ALL REALLY GOOD OPTIONS AND I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO ADVOCATE AND RECOMMEND THAT TO THE CITY TO GIVE A REALLY STRONG LOOK AT WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I DO THINK THAT THERE IS ALWAYS AN ISSUE OF ENFORCEMENT AND IF WE, IF WE ADD A DYNAMIC PRICING, FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE YOU HAVE AN ATTENDANCE, THE ATTENDANCE NOT GOING TO BE SOMEONE THAT IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE, THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO MAKE A PHONE CALL.
IT MIGHT BE A DETERRENT, BUT WE HAVE TO REALLY DO A STUDY TO LOOK AND SEE IF THAT WOULD REALLY BE THAT DETERRENT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE A LAW ENFORCEMENT OR SECURITY PERSON.
AND AS FAR AS DYNAMIC PRICING, HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE MONITORED? AND OUR TICKETS GOING TO BE ISSUED AT TWO IN THE MORNING OR 12 IN NIGHT.
YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IS THE SOLUTION? THAT'S WHY THE LIGHTING STARTS, STARTS THERE.
BUT I THINK IT HAS TO BE SERIOUSLY LOOKED AT AS FAR AS WHAT IS OUR EXPECTATION OF THAT, THAT SITE, FOR EXAMPLE, AN AT ATTEND.
SO WE, WE NEED TO GET THAT FEEDBACK FROM STARTING TO KNOW HOW EFFECTIVE THAT IS AS WELL.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A PROPOSAL FOR
DID WE, UH, UH, ASK CITY COUNCILS, UH, TO, FOR AN UP TO AN AMOUNT OF $25,000, UH, TO AUGMENT LIGHTING IN THE PARKING LOTS, UH, AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.
UH, I BELIEVE THAT THAT, UH, IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO, UH, AHEAD OF, UH, CITY COUNCIL APPAREL ON THAT.
IS THAT CORRECT, SIR? WELL, UM, WE HAVE SPEND, WE HAVE A SPEND LIMIT.
UM, IT'S CHANGING EVERY, IT'S, THINGS ARE CHANGING BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING DIRECTIVE FROM THE DIRECTOR SAYING THAT WE WERE, UM, PUBLIC WORKS NEEDS TO LOOK INTO INSTALLING ADDITIONAL LIGHTING.
THAT'S, THAT'S ONE THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM THE DIRECTOR.
SO WE'RE WORKING WITH TIA, UH, TECH SERVICES DEPARTMENT TO SEE WHAT KIND OF CAMERAS WE ARE, NOT CAMERAS, APOLOGIZE, WHAT KIND OF MOTION LIGHTING WE CAN GET, UM, TO GO, TO GO OVER THE LIGHTING THAT IS ALREADY THERE IN, IN ADDITION.
SO WE'LL BE LOOKING INTO THAT.
PUBLIC WORKS WILL BE HAVING MEETINGS WITH, UM, TECH SERVICES TEAM TO SEE AND COME UP WITH A PLAN AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO PRE PRESENT WHAT WE CAN INSTALL AT THE JANUARY MEETING THE DIRECTOR.
I ALSO WANTED TO NOTE THAT THE DIRECTOR ALSO MENTIONED THAT WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT CLOSING THE LOTS INSTEAD OF DYNAMIC PRICING.
UM, DIRECT DIRECTOR SAID, YOU KNOW, WHAT IF WE CLOSE THE LOTS AT MIDNIGHT AND WHAT DOES THAT DO TO SIDE STREETS IN FRONT OF RESIDENCE HALL? WELL, IT'S SOMETHING TO DISCUSS AND FOLLOW UP FOR DISCUSSION, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
BUT, UM, FOR RIGHT NOW, I THINK THEIR, THEIR, THEIR, THEIR THOUGHTS RIGHT NOW ARE TO CLOSE THE LOTS AT MIDNIGHT AND INSTALL, UH, ADDITIONAL LIGHTING.
THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE.
UM, AND PRESENTED IN THE JANUARY MEETING.
SO WHAT PUBLIC WORKS AND VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS ARE HAVING MEETINGS TO DISCUSS THIS AND COME
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UP WITH A PLAN TO BRING IN THE JANUARY MEETING.LOT OF, LOT OF DISCUSSION GOING ON.
UH, SO I THINK THE CONDITION, THE LAST THING WE CAN DO, NOT THE LAST THING, THE INITIAL DIRECTIONS RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL BO DUGGAN'S OFFICE, UH, THAT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, UH, OCCURRED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO HELP MITIGATE SOME OF THE ACTIVITY IN, IN THOSE SPOTS.
AND THAT'S ALL PART OF THE ONGOING DISCUSSION.
UH, AND I, I JUST WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE HEAR, UH, ARE THE, FOR PUSHING THAT, THAT NARRATIVE FORWARD, UH, AND WHATEVER MONEY IT TAKES, UH, WE SHOULD TRY TO FIND A WAY TO APPROPRIATE THAT TO GET THAT PROJECT DONE WITH CONTINUE WITH DISCUSSION.
UH, 'CAUSE MY FIRST THOUGHT, UM, EVEN HEARING THAT IS AN ISSUE IS NOT VERY FAVORABLE.
UH, I, I THINK IT TAKES LOOKING AT A, A PROBLEM AND INSTEAD OF TRYING TO SOLVE IT, JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, FORGET IT, AND NOBODY GETS TO PLAY IT TWICE.
YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A SOLUTION.
UM, I KNOW WE'RE NOT THERE YET, BUT I'M JUST GETTING OUT THERE.
AND THAT, I THINK YOU COMMENT TOO, THE VERY FIRST THING THAT WOULD HAPPEN WOULD BE LIKE, OKAY, WE'LL WATCH YOUR CLOTHES LINE, JUST PARK IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND I THINK THAT JUST GREATLY MM-HMM.
UH, INCREASES THE ISSUES OF MM-HMM.
SEEMS LIKE A NEGATIVE EVERY SOMETHING THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DOING THAT HOPEFULLY THE CITY CAN MOVE AND HOPEFULLY ACCEPT SOME OUR ASSISTANCE TO HELP GET THESE THINGS DONE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT A PART IN OUR POWER TO DO IT OURSELVES.
I THINK OFFERING THE ASSISTANCE TO TRY AND, YOU KNOW, START WORKING AT THIS, WELL, I THINK THE COMMISSION, CERTAINLY WITHIN OUR PURVIEW, WE CAN RECOMMEND SPEND TO AUTOMATIC LIGHTING IN THOSE SPOTS.
UH, AGAIN, IN THE DIRECTION OF, I LOVE IT TO BEATED FIRST AND FOREMOST, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE HERE TO WORK.
UH, IT IS, IT'S CITY ASSETS, SO LIGHT WILL HELP PROTECT CITY ASSETS.
UH, SO WE NEED TO BRIGHTEN UP THE, SO METERS DON'T GET ANALYZED AND SCIENCE DON'T GET ANALYZED AND, UH, CAN'T LOOK AT.
AND, UM, CAN YOU REMIND ME WHAT THE, UH, RATIO OF CITY BLOCKS TO PUBLIC, UH, PRIVATELY OWNED BLOCKS THERE ARE, I THINK WE HAVE A SIX CITY OWNED BLOCKS SOUTH OF SECOND STREET.
SO BEHIND THE, UH, BEHIND PAM JOSEPH IS ONE.
THERE'S ANOTHER ONE ON YOU THAT HAS, UH, SOME SPOTS AND THEN SOME AS WE GET ALONG.
UM, I, I ALSO WANT TO TAKE NOTE THAT WE DO A LIGHTING STUDY AND WE FOUND SOME LIGHTS THAT WERE OUT, SOME SEE LIGHTS THAT WERE OUT.
UM, THEY WEREN'T PART OF THE CITY.
UM, PUT IN A REQUEST FOR THE SEE AND IT'S BEEN, UH, THE LIGHTING HAS BEEN RESTORED AND UPDATED, SO WE HAVE MORE LIGHTING IN THE, IN THE ONES THAT WERE EMPTY.
THERE WAS THE ONE IN THE GATE LOT AND A COUPLE OTHER IN THE SMALLER LOTS.
AND THOSE ARE NOW, UH, THOSE ARE NOTHING.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S A SMALL ONE, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S MOVEMENT.
WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL HAVE MORE TO PRESENT IN THE JANUARY MEETING ONCE WE, UH, ONCE PUBLIC WORKS, UH, AND SAME MANAGER AND EVERYONE DISCUSSES WHAT THEY WE WANT TO DO IN TERMS OF MOVING FORWARD.
NEED TO MISS EVERYTHING ELSE WE CAN DO.
WELL, I THINK WE NEED TO PUT SOME, UH, AS MUCH, UH, PRESSURE AS WE CAN ON CA BUILDING'S OFFICE, UH, SO THAT WE CAN ELICIT HER HELP, UH, TO HOPEFULLY
I THINK THIS IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY.
UH, CERTAINLY IT'S, IT'S IN THE FRONTAL LOBE OF EVERYBODY, UH, IN THIS GROUP AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND WORK, UH, IN THIS, UH, DISTRICT AS WELL.
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I THINK WE'RE JUST HOPEFULLY, UH, MOVE THIS ALONG IN A, IN A LESSER ORGANIC FASHION FOR BEING MORE, UH, FORCEFUL ABOUT IT.UH, COMMISSIONER LAKE, UH, YEAH, I THINK WANTED TO, UH, REITERATE, UH,
YOU KNOW, MOST THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING.
UM, AND IF THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSIONS LIKE THAT, UM, IT WOULD, IF THERE, IF IT IS IN PUBLIC RECORD, I, WE GET, UH, COMPANY I, WHAT IS BEING DISCUSSED, OR AT LEAST SOME, YOU KNOW, FORMAL HEADS UP TO THE, THE COMMISSION.
UM, 'CAUSE THAT DOES SEEM LIKE FAIRLY BIG DEAL.
UM, AND, UH, AGAIN, BECAUSE IT FALLS IN LARGER JURISDICTION, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T DO THOSE THINGS.
OBVIOUSLY WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE EXTENT OF OUR POWER.
UM, BUT THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE, UH, NEED TO INFORM OUR THINKING AS WELL AS, UM, THE, THE CITY ITSELF.
UH, COMMISSIONER B, UM, DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? MY, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER COVERED.
MY, MY THOUGHTS ARE, UM, WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND.
UH, WE WILL OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, IT IS HIGHLY IMPORTANT THAT RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY THOSE IMPACTED, ARE BROUGHT INTO THIS CONVERSATION.
EVERYONE'S TALKING ABOUT RUSHING THROUGH THIS, BUT THERE'S NO TALK ABOUT THE RESIDENTS AND THOSE LIGHTS ARE GONNA IMPACT PEOPLE.
SO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, UM, CREATE SOME KIND OF SOLUTION FOR THAT.
CREATE SOME TYPE OF OPPORTUNITY FOR THE RESIDENTS TO COME AND DISCUSS THAT.
UM, AND THEN MY OTHER COMMENT IS, IF, IF ROWDY PATRONS ARE BEING BLOCKED FROM THESE PUBLIC PARKING LOTS, WILL THEY JUST INEVITABLY TAKE THEIR BEHAVIOR ONTO OUR RESIDENTIAL STREETS, WHICH IS ALREADY HAPPENING, UM, ON THE STREETS WHERE THERE AREN'T ANY PARKING LOTS LIKE MINE.
THEY DO THEIR TAILGATING ON MY STREET, UM, BOTH BEFORE AND AFTER THEIR PARTYING.
SO, UH, THAT MAKES ME CONSIDERED AND, AND DISCUSSED WITH RESIDENTS AS WELL.
UH, YES, BRIAN BELMONT FOR RESIDENTS.
UH, JUST WOW TO CALL THIS TIMING OF THIS MOTION AND THIS MOMENT RIGHT NOW, DISINGENUOUS SELF-SERVING AND MISGUIDED IS, IS BEING KIND.
UH, IT'S STATED SEVERAL TIMES OVER THAT YOU WANT TO MOVE AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN, WHICH PROVIDES ONLY ONE MEANINGFUL BENEFIT, WHICH IS COVERED FOR YOU AS A BAR OWNER.
WHILE THIS MORATORIUM IS PLAYING OUT FOR JUST 30 DAYS.
AND WHILE OUR COUNCIL MEMBER IS THE DRAWING THE PROPOSAL FOR A ONE YEAR MORATORIUM ON BARS, WHICH IS YOU, ONE OF YOURS THAT SERVES BILL TWO IN THE MORNING, THAT'S COVER FREE.
IT ACTS AS IF YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING WITH THE ACTUAL MEANINGFUL IMPACT OF CLOSING STUFF AND CHANGING THE CULTURE WOULD BE FAR MORE.
MEANING YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH AN, AN IDEA TO SPEND $25,000 OF PUBLIC FUNDS ON YOUR BEHALF.
WHILE OTHER 200 PLUS OTHER BUSINESSES DO NOT BENEFIT FROM THOSE IN ANY WAY.
BUT YOU'RE GONNA TAKE MONEY FROM THEM AND OUR COMMUNITY VIA OUR PARKING REVENUES, PUT THEM INTO $25,000 OF LIGHTING WITHOUT ENGAGING THE PUBLIC IN ANY MEANINGFUL FORM WHATSOEVER TO LET THEM KNOW IT'S COMING.
TO HAVE INPUT ON THAT YOU ARE DARK IN DECEMBER BY, BY DESIGN, SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE INPUT, EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN HAVE A PUBLIC FORUM TO ENGAGE WITH THAT, PUT NOTICES OUT TO SOLICIT OPINIONS ON THAT.
THIS IS THE WORST POSSIBLE MOMENT TO TAKE THIS UP.
AND IT'S ONLY PROVIDING AN ILLUSION OF SOMETHING THAT'S MEANINGFUL WHILE YOU CONTINUE TO OPERATE A BAR AT TWO IN THE MORNING AFTER THREE PEOPLE ARE DEAD IN, IN LESS THAN A YEAR AND A HALF.
AND JUST IN CASE YOU, UH, I I LOVE HOW YOU DISINGENUOUSLY, YOU START WITH THAT.
YOU REFER TO THESE AS EVENTS, IT'S A DEATH.
IT, THE GUY'S NAME IS JEREMY SPEARS.
YEAH, HE DIED ON SECOND STREET BECAUSE BARS AND THE INCIDENTS OF VIOLENCE THAT ARE CONCURRENT WITH THEM CONTINUE TO PROLIFERATE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
YEAH, JACK ROSENBERG, I THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT SOMETHING ELSE.
UH, THIS IS THE PLANNING, OR NOT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT THE COMMISSION ON,
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ON BELMONT S SHORT.THEY'RE LIMITED IN WHAT THEY CAN DO.
WHO'S NOT LIMITED IS OUR COUNCIL PERSON, THE CITY COUNCIL, AND THE MAYOR.
THOSE PEOPLE DO NOT CARE, DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOUR SAFETY.
YOU WERE AT A COUNCIL MEETING ON TUESDAY NIGHT, YOU WILL HEAR THEM TALK ABOUT GETTING MONEY FOR LAWYERS, FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, BUT YOU'LL HEAR ABSOLUTELY NO MENTION OF HIRING MORE POLICE OFFICERS IN THE THIRD DISTRICT.
THE FIRST FIRST DISTRICT WHERE I OWN A BUSINESS.
AND AS LONG AS WE CONTINUE TO ELECT THESE PEOPLE WHO DON'T CARE, I MEAN, THE FIRST TIME THAT WE HEARD FROM CITY COUNCIL AND FROM OUR COUNCIL PERSON, IT HAD TO BE OVER A DEATH.
THIS PROBLEM HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR, YOU KNOW, A LONG TIME, BUT IT TAKES A DEATH TO GET THE ATTENTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND ITS WING.
THEY DIDN'T MENTION IT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.
AND YOU KNOW, THEIR ATTENTION SPAN IS THAT OF AGNA.
THEY JUST MOVE FROM ONE THING TO ANOTHER.
THEY WANT AN AMPHITHEATER,
YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE WHAT THEY HAVE ALL HAVE THINGS THAT THEY WANT FOR THEIR DISTRICT THAT HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR SAFETY.
THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR SAFETY.
YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR SAFETY.
YOU'LL COME HERE TO THIS, LISTEN TO THIS COMMISSION, AND ATTEND THIS COMMISSION AND THINK YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING.
THESE COMMISSION MEMBERS CAN HEAR YOU.
THEY, AGAIN, ARE VERY LIMITED.
WHERE IS THE COUNCIL PERSON ON THIS ITEM? IT TOOK A DEATH FOR HER TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING AND THEN SHE CHANGED HER MIND BECAUSE SHE DID NOT HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE REST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR TO PUT A MORATORIUM FOR A YEAR.
SHE BACKTRACK TO 30 DAYS BECAUSE SHE COULD GET THAT APPROVED BY THE MAYOR AND THE REST OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
YOU, WELL, HEY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT A BAR PROBLEM.
THIS IS A LEADERSHIP PROBLEM AND OUR LEADERS DO NOT CARE.
THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, MA'AM.
I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD IF THERE WAS A COMMITTEE THAT WAS SET UP THAT INCLUDED EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY, RESIDENTS, YOUR COMMISSION, THE THIRD DISTRICT, THE OWNERS OF THE BAR TO MEET EVERYBODY TO COME TOGETHER AND MEET ON A REGULAR BASIS AND GET EVERYTHING OUT THERE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES, MA'AM.
JUST GETTING BACK TO THE, THE LIGHTING.
EVERYONE IS SAYING, UM, BUT ALSO JUST WANNA MAKE THE POINT THAT IT FEELS VERY MUCH LIKE A MICRO SOLUTION TO A MACRO PROBLEM.
AND I THINK THE MOST TELLING THING YOU SAID, SIR, WAS WHEN THE IDEA CAME UP TO CLOSE THE PARKING LOTS, WHICH MAKES COMPLETE SENSE TO ME.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE BARS ARE OPEN LATER, RIGHT? SO THAT TO ME IS THE MOST, THE BIGGEST HELP, RIGHT? SO WE CAN'T JUST LOOK AT THIS IN ISOLATION RIGHT NOW.
WE REMIND EVERYONE AGAIN THAT THE CITY IS NOW CURRENTLY IN THIS 45 DAYS SLASH 90 DAY PERIOD TO TAKE A MACRO LOOK.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SAY WHAT YOU WILL ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TUESDAY.
BUT, YOU KNOW, A COUNCIL MEMBER WANTED TO JUST DEVELOPMENT.
THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER SAID, LET'S LOOK AT THIS CITYWIDE.
SO I'M, YOU KNOW, QUITE SURE THAT MANY OF THE PROBLEMS WE'RE SEEING IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE SIMILAR IN OTHER AREAS.
THE POINT IS, EVEN FOR THIS COMMUNITY, IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO JUST SHINE SOME LIGHTS ON THE PARTY THAT'S GOING ON, RIGHT? WE NEED TO TAKE A BIGGER LOOK AND HOW TO SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS. AND I, YOU KNOW, AGREE THAT THIS IS JUST, UH, A BANDAID AND I AM CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THE RESIDENTS THINK.
I'M CONCERNED THAT THIS IS CERTAINLY NOT GONNA SOLVE ANY PROBLEMS RECOGNIZING THE LIMITATIONS OF THIS BODY.
I JUST WANT US TO TAKE A BIGGER LOOK AT, UM, ALL OF THESE PROBLEMS TOGETHER.
AND I WILL REMIND EVERYONE THAT THE BAR COMMUNITY, UM,
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WENT TO CHRISTINA WHEN SHE PROPOSED THE ONE YEAR AND THEY VOLUNTEERED TO DO 30 DAYS.THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE, RIGHT? WE'VE GOT A PARKING COMMISSION THAT IS RUN BY ONE OF THE BAR OWNERS WHO THINKS 30 DAYS IS A GREAT IDEA.
IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT ENOUGH TIME TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO LONGER TERM.
AND I THINK LETTING, SHOULD BE PUSHING FOR LONGER TERM.
WE TIME POST THE BARS AT MIDNIGHT, SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO THE STREET PARKING, SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO THE PARKING LOTS, RIGHT? THEY'RE SAYING IT'S THE, THAT STREET VENDORS AND ALL THE OTHER CHAOS THAT'S GOING ON.
AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A ALSO A PROBLEM.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY WE HAVE LOTS OF PROBLEMS TO TRY AND SOLVE AND JUST SHINING, SHINING A LIGHT, UM, FIGURATIVELY AND LITERALLY IN SOME PARKING LOTS IS NOT GONNA SUCK.
UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? UH, YES MA'AM.
UM, I, UM, AGREE WITH THEM AS FAR AS THE PARKING LOTS.
I HAVE FRIENDS AND FAMILY THAT OWN HOUSES RIGHT BY THE, UH, PANAMA PARKING LOT, AND THEY WERE AT THE LAST MEETING.
UH, THEY WOULD, THE ONES THAT I KNOW WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THOSE LIGHTS BACK THERE.
UH, THERE'S NO STUDIES THAT NEED TO BE DONE.
I HAVE BEEN RECENTLY GOING TO THESE MEETINGS AND I HEAR A LOT OF BLAH, BLAH, BLAH LANGUAGE.
THERE NEEDS TO BE ACTION AND NOT JUST WORDS.
UM, AS FAR SO, UH, TO, AS YOU KEEP MENTIONING PROTECTING RESOURCES, I'D LIKE TO BRING SOMETHING UP TO PROTECT RESOURCES AND PARKING, WHICH IS YOUR, UM, YOUR BOWL OF IMPORTANCE.
UM, YOU DON'T REALLY NEED, WELL DO RESEARCH ON HAVING AN ATTENDANT.
WHERE YOU CAN START IS WITH, UM, SOME OF THE INDEPENDENT, UH, PARKING LOT OWNERS HERE.
I HAVE SOME NEIGHBORS THAT DID RESEARCH AND WENT OUT AND SEEN THEIR OTHER PARKING LOTS IN THE LA AREA.
THEY HAVE PARKING ATTENDANTS AND THEY'RE MUCH SEEDIER AREAS THAN BELMONT SHORE.
WELL, WE'RE GONNA BECOME THOSE OTHER CD AREAS IF THOSE OWNERS AS WELL AS LONG BEACH CITY, UM, DOESN'T PUT IN PARKING ATTENDANTS.
I KNOW THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE SECURITY GUARDS, BUT THINK ABOUT IT, WHEN YOU GO INTO LA AND YOU'RE GOING TO GO OUT TO DINNER AND YOU HAVE A PARKING ATTENDANT, I'M NOT GONNA SIT AT THE BACK OF MY TRUCK AND HAVE SEX SELL DRUGS AND DO DRUGS.
YOU DON'T NEED TO DO RESEARCH ON THAT BEING A DETERRENT, UM, AND KEEPING OUR AREA SAFE.
UM, AND WHY DON'T YOU TALK TO, IF AN, IF ANY OF YOU ARE ONE OF THE OWNERS OF THE PRIVATE LOT, YOU HAVE THEM, UH, YOU HAVE PARKING ATTENDANCE IN OTHER AREAS THROUGH DAY, UH, DURING DAY AND NIGHT.
UM, AS FAR AS REVENUE, UH, WE HAVE BAR OWNERS HERE.
UM, AS FAR AS REVENUE FOR THE CITY, YOU GET TAXES.
UH, WE, UH, YOU HAVE TO PAY TAXES ON FOOD AND BOOZE SOLD IN YOUR LOCATION.
IT'S SEEMING LIKE YOU ONLY CARE ABOUT THE BOOZE SALES BECAUSE FOOD IS CUT OFF EARLY AT ALL THE BARS AND THERE'S FOOD TRUCKS OUTSIDE.
UH, GOD BLESS 'EM, ARE MAKING A FORTUNE OUT ON THE STREETS BECAUSE YOU STOP SERVING FOOD.
IT IS NOT THE BIG FOOD, THE BIG MONEY GENERATOR FOR YOU GUYS NEED.
YOU PUT BAR OWNERS, THE ONES THAT ARE HERE AND LAYING ONTO THE OTHER BAR OWNERS.
YOU GUYS NEED TO BE SERVING FOOD UNTIL YOU CLOSE BECAUSE PE IF I HAVE FIVE PLUS OF THE WINE, I NEED SOMETHING TO DRINK.
SO, I MEAN, I HAVE SOMETHING TO, I NEED SOMETHING TO EAT.
AND IF I CAN'T GET IT AT YOUR LOCATION, I'M GONNA DRIVE SOMEWHERE AND, AND DO A HIT AND RUN OR I'M GONNA GET AN ACCIDENT OR I'M GONNA BUY FROM THESE FOOD VENDORS.
NUMBER TWO, FOOD VENDORS ARE TAKING UP TWO TO THREE SPOTS OUT THERE AT NIGHT.
HOW, HOW, HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN OUT THERE PAST MIDNIGHT? THAT'S FINE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
WE MEASURE ARE TAKING UP TWO TO THREE PARKING SPOTS OUT THERE, YOUR PARKING COMMISSION.
COULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
AND I'D LIKE TO CUT YOUR TIME TOO SHORT.
I'M A BEL MAHO, UH, RESIDENT AND HOMEOWNER.
UM, IT'S PROBABLY BEEN SAID, UM, MORE THAN ONCE, BUT THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF DISTRUST AMONGST THE RESIDENTS OF THE SHORE.
UH, FOR THE, UM, THE BARS THAT ARE OPEN AFTER TWO O'CLOCK.
GREAT DEAL OF DISTRUST, GREAT DEAL OF DISTRUST, UM, OVER THE SEEMINGLY OUTSIZED INFLUENCE THAT THOSE BARS HAVE ON THE, UH, THE ACTIONS OF THE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION.
THE FACT THAT TWO OF THE BARS HAVE ONE THIRD OF THE SEATS IN THIS BODY.
THERE'S A LOT OF DISTRUST NOW.
THE CHAIR, UM, HAD AN OPENING STATEMENT, UH,
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IN WHICH HE CALLED ATTENTION TO THE PUBLIC CHATTER, I BELIEVE IT WAS CALLED, UM, ABOUT THIS ISSUE.AND, UM, SUGGESTED THAT, UH, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, YOU SHOULD RUN FOR OFFICE, RUN FOR MAYOR, AND CHANGE THE SYSTEM.
I DON'T NEED TO HOLD PUBLIC OFFICE TO CRITICIZE A BODY LIKE THE COMMISSION OR TO CRITICIZE THE CITY AT LARGE.
THAT'S WHAT, UH, DEMOCRACY IS KIND OF ALL ABOUT.
UM, SO I FIND IT REALLY INSULTING, UH, AND DEMEANING TO THE RESIDENTS THAT, UH, OUR CONCERNS ARE DISMISSED IN THIS WAY, PARTICULARLY BY THE CHAIR AND HIS, UH, BUSINESS CONCERNS.
UM, COULD YOU WANTED TO SAY THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK THAT THE BARS AND RESTAURANTS, UM, DISLIKE THE FOOD VENDORS PRETTY HEAVILY.
UM, BUT THEY'RE THERE BECAUSE THE BARS AND RESTAURANTS, OR THE BARS I SHOULD SAY, ARE NOT SERVING FOOD AFTER 10:00 PM AND ARE STAYING OPEN UNTIL TY AM.
WHICH IS AGAINST A RESTAURANT LICENSE SHOULD SAY.
SO YEAH, IT DEPENDS ON YEAH, WHAT THE LICENSES ARE.
UH, BUT, BUT THAT COMPLAINT IS JUST KIND OF ODD TO ME BECAUSE THE REASON THEY'RE THERE IS TO SERVE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE UNTIL 2:00 AM YEAH.
UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? MY COMMENT IS THAT, UH, HERE, THERE'S ONE OPEN CHAIR FOR RESIDENT IN THIS GROUP.
UM, AND I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT YOU LOOK IN THE FILLING THAT CHAIR, UH, IS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE OR NOT.
I'M NOT ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS IN THIS MEETING.
I CAN JUST STATE SOMETHING, BUT I THINK YOU GUYS NEED TO HAVE SOME LOCAL RESIDENTS ON YOUR COMMITTEE, NOT A BIG PORTION OF YOU AS BAR OWNERS.
AND THEN ALSO, HOW LONG HAVE MOST OF YOU BEEN ON THE THIS COMMITTEE AND ARE YOU VOTING IN? I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT EVERY YEAR YOU HAVE TO BE VOTED TO BE ON THIS COMMITTEE.
UH, BECAUSE I HEAR A LOT OF ME SAYING, I HEAR A LOT OF, UH, PEOPLE SAYING, UH, EXCUSES.
AND IT COMES FROM LONG TIME PEOPLE ON THESE COMMITTEES IN THE COUNCIL AND OWNERS OF THE VAR.
UM, SO WHAT IS THIS PROCESS? WHO'S IN CHARGE? WHO IT SEEMS LIKE WHO'S IN CHARGE IS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CAUSING PROBLEMS. NOT EVERYBODY HERE, BUT, UH, HOW DO, HOW DO, HOW CAN SOME RESIDENTS GET ON THIS COMMITTEE AND HOW CAN WE, WE BASICALLY GET SOME OF UI SOMETIMES YOU BUSINESS.
I TOLD HIM EXACTLY WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES, MA'AM.
C UM, I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A LEGAL PROBLEM CLOSING THE PARKING LOTS BECAUSE THE PLANNING AND ZONING ROUTINELY PLAY, BUT THOSE PARKING LOTS ARE SERVING THE NEW RESTAURANTS AND THE OTHERS THAT REQUIRE A CU SLEEP.
SO OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THERE ARE A LOT OF THE SAME SPOTS TO NEW PEOPLE, BUT THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER DISCUSSION.
AND ALSO THE ISSUE OF FIGHTS, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
IF YOU ARE ABLE TO SEE THE PROBLEM AND CALL THE POLICE AND HAVE SOMETHING DONE, THE LIGHTING MIGHT EXPOSE THE PROBLEM.
IT DOESN'T SOLVE IT BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE ENFORCED.
AND THE RFP THAT IS OUT THERE ABOUT SECURITY HAS NO MENTION OF ANY ENFORCEMENT POWER OTHER THAN THAT THEY CALL THE POLICE WHO, AS WE KNOW ARE SHORT STAFFED AND NOT AVAILABLE.
SO IT'S OBVIOUSLY A SIMPLER KIND OF PROBLEM.
AND AS FAR AS ENFORCEMENT, UH, FORTUNATELY OUR COUNCIL MEMBER ATTENDED THE PSR MEETING RESIDENTS AND WE HAPPY TO HAVE BEEN HERE TODAY AND SHE LISTENED CAREFULLY AND PROVIDE AT LEAST THURSDAY.
THURSDAY WHERE OBVIOUSLY WE NEED MORE.
BUT A BIG ISSUE IS THAT THERE ARE VIOLATIONS ALL UP AND DOWN THE STREET THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THE ALCOHOL PROBLEM.
THERE'S SIGNAGE THAT'S ILLEGAL, THERE'S NOISE THAT'S ILLEGAL.
THERE'S KINDS OF ENTERTAINMENT THAT ARE LEGAL.
BUT THESE RULES AND THESE CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS ARE NOT ONLINE SO THAT WE CAN GO TO THEM, SEE WHAT
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THE ISSUES ARE BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S RELYING ON THE RESIDENTS TO COMPLAIN OR TO MAKE THE PHONE CALLS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE TO DO IT.CODE ENFORCEMENT COULD HELP US.
BUSINESS LICENSE COULD HELP US.
THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT COULD HELP US IF THEY PROVIDE PEOPLE AND IF THEY HAVE THE POLITICAL SUPPORT AND YOUR SUPPORT TO GO OUT AND ENFORCE ALCOHOL, BEVERAGE CONTROL.
MANY OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE COME TO THE COMMISSION OR TO, THEY HAVE COME TO OUR ASSOCIATION AND SAID, OH, WE DON'T WORK ON THE WEEKENDS.
UH, SO WE REALLY, REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT ALL THOSE OPTIONS AND HAVE THEM TAKEN CARE OF.
UM, SO WE CAN ONLY HAVE ONE ROUND OF PUBLIC COMMENT PER EACH, UH, AGENDA ITEM.
I DO HAVE ROOM FOR, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE END.
SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM FIVE, UH, WE WILL GO FORWARD.
AND NOW WE'LL MOVE TO, UH, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, ON ANY TOPIC.
UH, SO WE'LL START ON THIS END.
UH, BRIAN COCHRAN, BELMONT SHORE RESIDENT.
UM, I SEE FACES HERE THAT I'VE NOT SEEN BEFORE, AND THERE'S LOTS OF CHATTER AS YOU, UH, CASUALLY FRAMED IT IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE STRUCTURE OF THIS BODY AND HOW THINGS ARE NOT WORKING FOR THE GREATER COMMUNITY AND THE RESIDENTIAL SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE AND VISITORS AS WELL.
UM, I'M GONNA FRAME THESE POSSIBLY AS QUESTIONS, BUT ALSO JUST, UH, AS STATEMENTS TO CATCH PEOPLE UP, WHICH IS THAT THIS BODY IS COMPRISED OF SEVEN PEOPLE, THREE OF THEM BY CHARTER AND BY BY, UM, CITY CODE ARE REQUIRED TO BE PROPERTY OWNERS OF PLACES ON, ON SECOND STREET.
THREE OF THEM ARE REQUIRED TO BE BUSINESS OPERATORS.
ON SECOND STREET, THERE'S A SOLE SEAT DESIGNATED FOR RESIDENT PURPOSES.
THAT SEAT USED TO EXIST WITH THE VOLUNTARY RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION, BUT OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS PRIOR, UH, HER PREDECESSOR SUZIE PRICE, REMOVED THAT AT NINE 30 AT NIGHT ONE NIGHT, AND NOW IT'S OPEN TO A PERSON, UH, THAT THEY DESIGNATE.
JAN GAFF OCCUPIED THE RESIDENCY FOR TWO TERMS, EVEN THOUGH SHE'S A PROPERTY OWNER.
A CURRENT CONFLICT OF INTEREST THERE AND NOT REPRESENTATIVE COMMUNITY INTEREST.
THE CURRENT, UH, OCCUPANT OF THE STATE IS A, UH, UH, FOBS MEMBER, WHICH AS MOST PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, IS A ARM OF THE
COMMONLY, UH, THERE'S INHERENT CONFLICTS IN ALL THAT STRUCTURE.
THE MECHANISMS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE ARE CONSTANTLY UNDERCUT, UH, SUCH THAT THE BUSINESSES EXERT DISPROPORTIONATE PRESSURE ON ELECTED OFFICIALS, CITY DEPARTMENTS AND SUCH THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS SO THAT, UH, THINGS GET DILUTED, WATERED DOWN TO PROTECT AND BARS THE BARS AND THE RESTAURANTS SPECIFICALLY WITH THE LIQUOR SERVING INTEREST.
UM, NICK IS HERE REPRESENTING COUNCIL MEMBER DUGGAN, AND I WOULD SAY THAT YOU'VE HEARD OVERWHELMINGLY THAT PEOPLE WANTED THE ONE YEAR MORATORIUM.
WE WISH THAT WAS ADVANCED AND WE HOPE IT WILL COME BACK IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
THAT'S THE ONE WAY TO MAKE A MEANINGFUL DIFFERENCE WITH THOSE PARTICULAR TROUBLED BARS IN THE MOMENT.
I WOULD ALSO ASK THAT, UH, NICK, TAKE BACK TO CHRISTINA PROPOSAL HAS BEEN FLOATED AROUND BY THE BELMONT RESIDENCES, THOSE
YOU EVER READ THAT? IT'S MEANINGFUL AND WE CAN MAKE LONG LASTING CHANGE FROM WHAT THINGS ARE STARTING IN THIS ROOM.
THERE'S SOME GREAT ADVICE AND WISDOM HERE.
IT'S LARGELY DISREGARDED, AND THAT'S A TRAGIC THING TO HAVE ELECTED COMMISSION APPOINTED PEOPLE FULLY POSITIONED THAT SELF-SERVE THEIR OWN BAR READER.
THREE MINUTES NEXT PUBLIC COMMENT.
YEAH, I'D JUST LIKE TO RECAP BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE WITH SUZIE PRICE'S OFFICE.
UM, BOTTOM LINE IS, UM, THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A PARKING ATTENDANT IN THE BACK BEHIND PANAMA AND BEHIND ALL THE OTHER LOTS THAT WE NEED LIGHTS.
UM, BUT THE BARS NEED TO BE, UH, SERVING FOOD UNTIL THEY CLOSE.
AND WE NEED TO GET RID OF THOSE PART, THOSE FOOD VENDORS THAT ARE ON SECOND STREET THAT PEOPLE ARE GATHERING AROUND LATE AT NIGHT AFTER TWO O'CLOCK.
I HEAR THE HELICOPTERS UNTIL FOUR IN THE MORNING AND THEY'RE HANGING OUT AT THOSE, UH, FOOD CARTS AND BEHIND IN THE PARKING LOTS.
UM, SO THEY'RE JUST, IT NEEDS TO BE MORE SECURITY.
AND I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE THE LEAD UP THERE TALKS A LOT ABOUT INCOME.
YOU'RE HERE FOR CREATING INCOME FOR LONG BEACH, BUT PEOPLE ARE WALKING AROUND WITH THEIR RED CUPS, THEIR BAR FOOD, AND WALKING AROUND THE STREETS.
WALK IN FRONT OF YOUR BARS, TALK TO YOUR BARTENDERS.
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I TALKED TO A BARTENDER THE OTHER DAY.THEY SMELL SELF BATCH BURGERS AND THEY'RE STANDING IN FRONT OF THEIR BAR WITH A RED CUP AND A SMASH BURGER THAT THEY SELL INSIDE THAT THEY BOUGHT AT THE FOODIE TRUCK.
AND THEY GET THEIR BOO FROM THE CAR.
THEY'RE JUST GOING IN AND OUTTA YOUR BARS ENOUGH.
THEY'RE NOT PAYING, THEY'RE NOT SPINNING A PENNY.
THEY'RE JUST WALKING IN AND OUT AND YOU'RE CRAMMING THEM IN LIKE A DOG.
AND YOU'RE NOT EVEN MONITORING THE, UM, LIMIT THE PEOPLE IN.
AND IF HALF OF 'EM AREN'T BUYING ANYTHING, I WOULD DO THE SAME THING.
I OWN BUSINESS, I WOULD DO THE SAME THING.
BUT YOU GUYS REALLY NEED TO, UM, I THINK SERVE FOOD, GET RID OF THE FOOD VENDORS, TAKE CARE OF THOSE PARKING LOTS.
UM, THAT'S ALL I CAN THINK OF AT THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENT.
UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, SIR.
JACK ROSENBERG, UH, NOT TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE, BUT THAT'S SIMPLY NOT TRUE.
UH, ALL THE BARS HAVE SOMEBODY AT THE FRONT DOOR TO MONITOR PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT.
UM, THEY HAVE 'EM AT SEVEN O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.
SO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, HECK IS HAPPENING IS SIMPLY NOT HAPPENING.
THE BARTENDERS SAY IT'S HAPPENING.
I DON'T SEE ANY BARTENDERS HERE.
RESEARCH, OKAY? YOU DO THE RESEARCH, YOU STAND OUT THERE AND YOU SEE THESE PEOPLE, THESE BOTTLE OWNERS, AND THEY HAVE PEOPLE CHECKING PEOPLE GOING INTO THEIR RESTAURANT.
RESTAURANT, OKAY? SO FOR YOU TO SAY THAT THEY'RE GOING IN AND OUT, IT'S SIMPLY NOT TRUE.
WELL, THEY'RE STANDING AND COME BACK.
IT'S SIMPLY NOT TRUE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
NO, FOLKS, WE CAN'T HAVE AN INTERACTIONS WITH COMMENTS.
WELL, YOU, I, I JUST WONDER, CONTINUE TO BLANK THE BORROWERS.
AND YET SO MANY THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO HAVE TO GET CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL AND WILL NOT GET CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL.
THESE ARE NOT, I MEAN, THE, THE FIRST DISTRICT NOW IS GOING TO TESTING OPEN CONTAINERS WHERE YOU CAN BUY A BEER AND TAKE IT OUT AND BE OUT IN THE, ON THE, UH, OPEN AREA.
YOU KNOW, THIS CITY AND THIS COUNCIL IS NOT HEARING YOU.
OKAY? AND UNTIL YOU GO AND GET THE ATTENTION OF THE THIRD DISTRICT AND THE OTHER SIX DISTRICTS TO WHAT YOUR DESIRES AND WHAT YOU SEE IS NEEDS, NOTHING'S GONNA HAPPEN.
YOU'RE GONNA COME HERE ONCE A MONTH AND JUST TALK ABOUT THINGS AND IT WON'T HAPPEN.
SIR, THAT WAS DONE LAST TUESDAY AT THE CITY COUNCIL.
I JUST, I JUST WANNA DO A QUICK REMINDER.
PUBLIC COMMENT IS ONLY FOR STATEMENTS.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A DIALOGUE WITH YOU.
SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND, PLEASE.
MOVING FORWARD, UH, NEXT PUBLIC.
JUST TO GO BACK TO BRIAN'S POINT.
I WOULD GO FURTHER AND SAY THIS BODY SHOULD BE MAJORITY RESIDENTS AND NOT OVERLAPPING WITH ANY BUSINESS INTEREST.
IT SEEMS TO ME REDUNDANT TO HAVE FREE PROPERTY OR LOSING FREE BUSINESS INTEREST, THAT'S SIX OUTTA SEVEN MEMBERS THAT HAVE BUSINESS INTERESTS.
SO WHY AREN'T THERE ARE FOUR RESIDENTIAL SPOTS, NON-BUSINESS INTEREST, RESIDENTIAL SPOTS.
CLEARLY THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM WHO WANNA HAVE THEM INPUT AND HAVE WITH IDEAS.
AND SO I REALLY THINK, AND I KNOW THIS IS A CITY COUNCIL ISSUE, UM, BUT I WANT TO MAKE THAT COMMENT THAT WE REALLY NEED TO CHANGE THE MAKEUP OF THIS BODY SO THAT WE CAN HAVE MORE SUBSTANTIVE INPUT AND WE NOT JUST SPEAKING TO THE WIND, WHAT IT FEELS LIKE RIGHT NOW.
THANK YOU, MS. UM, YES, MA'AM.
UM, MICHELLE'S LAST STATEMENT, SPEAKING INTO THE WIND, THIS, I KNOW THIS IS AT LEAST THE SECOND TIME I'VE BROUGHT THIS UP.
UM, I BROUGHT IT UP, IS THAT I, THAT'S WHAT I FEEL LIKE WE'RE SPEAKING INTO THE WIND.
THERE'S ONLY, I, I ONLY SEE JEFF AND DEB TAKING NOTES.
I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE TAKING NOTES.
I DON'T SEE RYAN TAKING NOTES.
UM, THE MINUTES AS PER THE CITY'S COMMISSION PROCESS OR WHATEVER, DON'T SAY ANY.
IT, IT JUST STATES WHO MADE A COMMENT.
UM, AND MOST OF US HAVE OLDER BRAINS.
HE CAN PROBABLY RETAIN IT AND HE TAKES NOTES.
UM, BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE HEARD ON THIS ONE DAY.
THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS OUT HERE, AND I DON'T, LIKE THEY GO ANYWHERE AND
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IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING, LIKE YOU.UH, ANY OTHER, I'D LIKE TO, UH, MAKING THIS STATEMENT.
I'D LIKE TO SOME FOLLOW UP, ADD, UH, ONE COMMENT FOR, UH, MS. BROWN.
IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SHE HAS.
SO, UH, THAT'S THAT THIS ONE SHOT, THAT THIS NOT AN OPEN FORM.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT THAT YOU HAVEN'T NOT SAID ANYTHING? OKAY.