* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] IT IS 8 41. I'M CALLING TO ORDER THE MAR ADVISORY COMMISSION EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE ON THURSDAY, DECEMBER 4TH. WE'RE RIGHT NOW IN THE ALAMEDA BAY MARINA CONFERENCE ROOM, AND WE'LL START WITH A ROLL CALL. MR. LELAND. MR. YEAH. I DIDN'T DO THAT. MR. UH. COMMISSIONER MURRAY? HERE. COMMISSIONER MORENO? HERE. COMMISSIONER MCCRAY. I AM HERE. YOU HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU, SIR. UH, LET'S START WITH OUR, UH, REGULAR AGENDA. AND OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM IS RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF OUR PREVIOUS MEETING AS DISTRIBUTED. SO MOVED. SECOND. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSIONS? ANY CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS TO THOSE MINUTES AS PUBLISHED? NO, MA'AM. ALL IN FAVOR? THEY BE APPROVED AS DISTRIBUTED, SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. MOVING ON TO OUR SECOND ITEM OF AGENDA, A RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS AND REVIEW OUR ADVISORY COMMISSION AGENDA ITEMS FOR OUR DECEMBER 11 MEETING. SO MOVED. SECOND. SO MOVE AND SECOND. AND WHICH WE WILL THEN, UH, GO ONTO OUR SECOND HANDOUT, UH, WHICH SHOWS OUR MEETING. WE'LL START WITH, UH, A ROLL CALL, REGULAR AGENDA. WE'LL HAVE TRADITIONAL ITEMS LIKE THE MINUTES, OUR MANAGER'S REPORTS. AND THEN OUR, UH, KEY ITEM WAS A RECOMMENDATION TO REVIEW OUR CALENDAR, UH, WITH AGENDA ITEMS FOR 2026. UH, MR. LELAND, DID YOU WANNA LEAD A DISCUSSION ON THAT? WHAT? YEAH, IT IS BASICALLY, IT'S OUR FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF SET THE TEMPA FOR 2026. UH, TAKE, UH, TAKE COMMENT FROM THE COMMISSIONERS, KIND OF GIVE US A, UH, ROADMAP. UH, JUST FYI, WE DO HAVE A LIGHT AGENDA IN, AS YOU CAN SEE IN DECEMBER. UH, UH, NOT FOR LACK OF TRYING, BUT THAT HAS GIVEN US A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR JANUARY AND FEBRUARY. UH, WE'VE TEED UP A LOT OF, UH, UH, ITEMS FROM PUBLIC WORKS, CITY MANAGER'S, OFFICE, UH, OUR OLYMPICS GROUP, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. UM, THEY HAD A LOT OF, WE, WE MADE REQUESTS FOR DECEMBER. UM, BUT DUE TO AVAILABILITY OF STAFF, UH, THEY'VE ASKED FOR JANUARY AND FEBRUARY. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOME, SOME GOOD, UH, GOOD TOPICS, AGENDAS IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY. UH, THERE'S A, UH, OLYMPIC, UH, ANNUAL, UH, UPDATE, UH, BEING PREPARED NOW THAT WE WANT TO GET TO YOU IN JANUARY. UM, WE STILL WANT TO, UH, GET, UH, ECONOMIC, UH, DEVELOPMENT BACK OUT HERE JANUARY, FEBRUARY, UH, TO, TO DISCUSS THE, UH, AL BAY AND, UH, THE, THE WATERFRONT, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN, UH, PUBLIC WORKS, OBVIOUSLY. UH, THEY'LL PRO THEY'LL BE COMING IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY. FEBRUARY, YEAH. FOR THEIR STANDARD UPDATE. MM-HMM . SO, BUT AGAIN, UH, DO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR, OUR TWO NEW POSTS WITHIN THE CITY THAT WERE NAMED YESTERDAY? UM, TO HAVE THEM COME INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, I THINK AS PART OF YOUR REPORT? POSSIBLY THAT'LL BE THE 11TH, UH, OF JANUARY. I CAN, I CAN ASK. I'LL ASK WHERE THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS. WELL, YOU'RE ACTING NOW, RIGHT? SO, YEAH. , COULD YOU CALENDARIZE THAT PLEASE? . JUST TELL THEM THAT WAS YOUR PLAN. NOW THAT THEY'RE HERE, THEY GOTTA SHOW UP. I, I'LL ASK, UH, I'LL ASK DIRECTOR SCOTT, AND I'LL ASK DIRECTOR HICKMAN IF THEY'D LIKE TO COME AND JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND, YOU KNOW, GIVE A GREAT, GIVE A LITTLE. THAT'D BE GOOD TO HAVE KIND OF THEIR SPIEL ABOUT WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEIR VISION AND YEAH. SOME OF THE THINGS YEAH. IF, IF THEY'RE UNAVAILABLE IN, IN DECEMBER AS WELL, WE WILL, UH, WE'LL SEE. , IT, IT WOULD BE NICE SINCE IT'S JUST, IT'S SO FRESH AND THE ANNOUNCEMENTS THERE SURE. THAT, THAT WOULD BE MM-HMM . UM, GOOD TO HEAR FROM BOTH OF THEM. CAN, CAN I GET A CLARIFICATION? WHAT POST DID HICKMAN GET? UH, DIRECTOR PUBLIC WORK. PUBLIC WORKS. PUBLIC WORKS. HE DID GET PUBLIC WORK. IT'S GREAT. AND STEVE SCOTT HAS, WELL, AND BOTH OF THOSE WERE ACTING DIRECTORS, MASSIVE. SO MANY TIMES. NATIONWIDE SEARCHES THAT, UM, THAT HAD INCREDIBLE NUMBER OF APPLICANTS FROM ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES. SO THE, YEAH. IT SPEAKS VOLUMES FOR OUR INTERNAL PEOPLE AND OUR INTERNAL TRAINING SYSTEMS. UM, AND THAT HOW WE'RE PROMOTING FROM WITHIN. AND THAT THEN IT VALIDATES, UH, EVERYTHING THAT'S OUT THERE THAT YOU CAN LOOK ALL OVER THE WORLD, YOU SCOUR AND IT TURNS OUT THE BOY NEXT DOOR IS THE PRIME GUY OR GIRL, I SAID [00:05:01] JUST FOR YOU, FOR YOU, I GOT, I GOT A QUESTION ON THE, ON THE AGENDA ITEMS AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. I JUST SENT YOU, UH, BOTH, UH, THE PICTURES OF THE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS THAT ARE NOW ON OUR PIER, UH, THE TENTS THAT ARE ON THE PIER, AND THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME, UH, JUST HAVING THAT BROUGHT UP TO OUR, UH, POLICE. I'M SURE THE POLICE WILL BE HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE ABLE TO, THAT'S A GET THE COMMANDER, AND THIS IS BEING DECEMBER. THIS IS, THAT'S A SWEEP AREA FOR TODAY. OKAY. UH, WE DO OUR REGULAR BEACH, UH, CLEANUPS AND, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, ENCAMPMENT, UH, OUTREACH, UH, WE, WE BRING OUT, UH, QUALITY OF LIFE TEAM. WE WORK WITH HEALTH AND HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, AND WE GO UP AND DOWN THE BEACH SEVERAL TIMES PER WEEK. THURSDAY'S ONE OF THOSE DAYS. OKAY. SO, UH, THAT LOCATION WILL BE ADDRESSED AT THIS POINT. MAYBE WE CAN HAVE A, UM, QUALITY OF LIFE COME OUT SINCE ONE OF OUR BIGGEST ISSUES WE HAVE REALLY ON, ON, IN NOT JUST THE MARINA, BUT IN LONG BEACH, IS OUR HOMELESSNESS. MM-HMM . OR UNHOUSED OR HOWEVER THEY WANNA STATE IT. AND, YOU KNOW, TALKING WITH SOME OF THE GENTLEMEN, I, I TALKED TO TWO GENTLEMEN THE OTHER DAY THAT LIVE UNDER THE PIER OVER THERE OFF OF, UH, STEARNS AND PALO VERDE, AND THEY LIVED THERE. THAT'S WHERE THEY LIVED. THEY LIVE IN, UH, RIGHT UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE. UH, AND THEY SAYS, I SAYS, POPULATION, WHAT DO YOU THINK HERE? AND HE SAYS, UH, WE'VE GOT FRIENDS ALL OVER LONG BEACH. WOW. AND I JUST WENT, REALLY? HE SAYS, THEY ALL HAVE CELL PHONES. WE ALL, WE ALL TALK. AND I JUST WENT, IS IT? AND IT WAS JUST OPEN CONVERSATIONS. I GAVE 'EM A CIGAR AND WE'RE TALKING, I SAYS, DRUG INDUCED. OH, I JUST DON'T HAVE ANY PLACE TO STAY. I CAN'T AFFORD TO STAY. DO YOU WORK? I WORK SOMETIMES I DON'T HAVE ANY PLACE TO STAY. AND, BUT WE'VE INVESTED MILLIONS IN THIS CITY AND PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO STAY. WHY ARE PEOPLE STATING THAT THEY HAVE NO PLACE TO STAY IF THERE'S JUST PLACES TO STAY? THAT'S, I'D LOVE TO HAVE QUALITY OF LIFE COME IN AND JUST GIVE US A BRIEF OVERVIEW. UM, ESPECIALLY FOR THE BEACHES, THAT'S GREAT THAT WE DO A CLEANUP, BUT IF THEY DO A CLEANUP AND THE NEXT DAY THEY'RE BACK, IT HINDERS THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GO OUT ON THE PIER AND BRING THEIR KIDS. SURE. IT HINDERS THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GO OUT AND LOOK AT THE, THE MOON AND GO OUT AND, AND HAVE A CLEAR VIEW OF THE MOON COMING UP OVER THING. THEY CAN'T BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT ENCAMPMENTS THERE AND THEY'RE AFRAID NOW THEY'RE PROBABLY FINE. WE GOTTA GOTTA, WE GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT ILLEGAL TO BE HOMELESS. RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. AND THE CITY DOES EVERYTHING WE CAN. WE, WE LEAD WITH COMPASSION, COMPASSION FIRST. YES. WE OUTREACH. WE BRING OUT QUALITY OF LIFE STAFF. WE BRING OUT HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, AND WE OFFER, UH, ACCOMMODATIONS. OKAY. UH, WE'RE, WE'RE, OUR STAFF IS OUT THERE EVERY DAY INTERACTING AND, AND PROVIDING SERVICES. AND IT'S NOT MANDATORY NOW. SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO MOVE IF THEY DON'T WANT TO MOVE, IF THEY WANT THE TEST. RIGHT. THEY COULD SAY, WELL, THAT'S ONCE WE POST, ONCE WE POST AND WE DO CLEANUPS, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO MOVE. OH, YOU ARE. OKAY. YOU, BUT WE POST WAY IN ADVANCE AND GIVE PEOPLE OPPORTUNITIES WAY IN ADVANCE TO GO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S EXTRAORDINARILY REWARDING OPPORTUNITY. UH, JANUARY 22ND IS THE ANNUAL HOMELESS COUNT COUNT. YES. AND WHEN YOU ARE PHYSICALLY INTERVIEWING EACH ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, IT DISPELS RUMORS THAT YOU'VE HEARD. SURE. YOU'RE ONE-ON-ONE HEARING FROM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE. UH, AND I'VE BEEN LUCKY THE LAST FEW YEARS, UM, TO BE ABLE TO COUNT IN THE AREA THAT WE SERVE. RIGHT? SO I'M SEEING THE PEOPLE THAT ARE USING OUR RESTROOMS, RIGHT. THAT ARE ALONG OUR BEACH, THAT ARE SLEEPING UNDERNEATH OUR BRIDGE, UNDERNEATH OUR PIER. UH, AND ONCE YOU SEE HOW COMPLEX THE PROBLEM IS AND THE ISSUES THAT ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE FACING, OH, YEAH. UM, IT MAKES YOU REALLY PROUD TO LIVE IN LONG BEACH. YEAH. AND, AND ALL THAT IS BEING ADDRESSED. AND JUST TO SAY IS, IS LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT, FIRE HEALTH PARKS AND REC PUBLIC WORKS, THEY ALL WORK TOGETHER, COORDINATED EFFORT TO ADDRESS TO THE BEST WE CAN. UM, YOU KNOW, WITH GRANTS PASS, THE WHOLE SUPREME COURT THING, UM, WE CAN NOW CITE WHERE BEFORE MAYBE IN A CALENDAR YEAR, WE'VE GIVEN OUT 20 CITATIONS. RIGHT. FOR ENCAMPMENTS. UH, THAT NUMBER'S GONE UP TO WELL OVER 300. AND SO THE ENFORCEMENTS THERE, HOWEVER, IT'S COMPASSION FIRST. RIGHT. IT IS OFFERING SERVICES. AND THEN YES, OF COURSE THERE ARE INSTANCES OF ARRESTS WHERE I DON'T EVEN WANT, I DON'T EVEN WANT [00:10:01] 'EM ARRESTS, MORE STUFF LIKE THAT. I MEAN, HAVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE COME IN AND I'VE GIVEN THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR YEARS, AND I BUY THEM CLOTHES WHERE THEY HAVE SOCKS AND THINGS. HAVING THEM COME IN TO JUST TO DO A REVIEW, NOT FROM THE POLICE, BUT FROM THE QUALITY OF LIFE TEAM THAT'S OUT THERE, I THINK WOULD JUST BE BENEFICIAL THAT IF PEOPLE SHOWED UP, WELL, THAT IS THE LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT. OH, I KNOW THAT. NO, NO, NO. I'M WELL AWARE. BUT IT IS JUST HAVING THEM COME IN AND GIVE THEIR THEIR SIDE OF IT THAN TO UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER WHAT'S GOING ON GREATLY. AND IT WOULD GO ON RECORD. IT WOULD BE ON RECORD. I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE A POSITIVE FOR US AND FOR THE STUDY. AND OF COURSE, UM, AND RIDE ALONGS WITH THAT TEAM ARE AVAILABLE AS WELL. MM-HMM . AND, AND THAT'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY SEE HOW WE DO LEAD WITH COMPASSION. AND WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL SEE IF WE CAN ADD THAT TO THE MANAGER'S REPORT AND SEE IF, UH, THAT'D BE GREAT. YEAH. ANYTHING YOU CAN PUT UNDER THAT UMBRELLA. YEAH. UM, AND NOW I WANT KIND OF A CHANCE TO BRAINSTORM HERE. IN THE PAST, UM, TAMLIN HAS SPENT HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS PUTTING TOGETHER NOTEBOOKS. MM-HMM . AND NOTEBOOKS ARE KIND OF OLD SCHOOL. MM-HMM . THEY'RE NICE AND I LIKE 'EM AS A REFERENCE. UM, WHAT CAN WE DO THAT IS MORE ELECTRONIC, MORE ONLINE? YOU KNOW, DO WE DO A DROPBOX? DO WE, WE HAVE TO HAVE THINGS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC, OF COURSE. SO WE NEED TO POST THINGS. BUT HOW WE USED TO HAVE WITH SOME OF THOSE, UM, NOTEBOOKS THAT ARE A PHYSICAL PRINTOUT OF DOCUMENTATION. SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MEETING, THE MEETING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE WOULD HAVE A TRAINING SESSION THAT WOULD BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC MM-HMM . UM, FOR OUR COMMISSIONERS, ONE OF THE HANDOUTS WOULD BE A NOTEBOOK. OKAY. AND THAT WAS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK. RIGHT. UH, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HAVE NEXT WEEK MAGICALLY, UH, , WE COULD DO THAT ALL DIGITALLY. I MEAN YEAH. WE CAN DO IT ELECTRONICALLY. YOU HAVE, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE TO PUT IT, YOU KNOW? YEAH. GIVE 'EM A FILE FOR THEIR EMAIL. UM, WELL, THEN WE CAN SAVE IT ONTO THE IPADS THAT YOU'RE PROVIDED AT EACH MEETING. AND THEN WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE COULD SEND EACH COMMISSIONER A DIGITAL COPY MM-HMM . OF IT. AND THEN ARE WE, ARE WE SHARING EVERYTHING THEN WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC? HOW DO WE GO WITHIN THE, WELL THAT, THAT BECOMES IT. WE CAN AGENDIZE IT AND THEN IT GOES INTO, UH, NEO GOV AS AN ATTACHMENT TO A, WELL, WE HAVE TO IZE IT ANYWAYS. THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT. SO IT WOULD GO AS ATTACHMENT INTO THAT'S TRUE NEO. SO IT COULD BE RIGHT IN NEO GOVERNMENT. WHAT KIND OF BURDEN IS THAT? THAT'S NOT REALLY A BURDEN. AND THEN I CAN DO THAT. HOWEVER, BECAUSE EVERYTHING'S ELECTRONIC ANYWAYS. I JUST ACTUALLY PRINTED YOU PRINT IT OUT. I MEAN, IT'S ALREADY THERE. PUTTING THE BOOKS TOGETHER IS MORE, UM, OKAY. SO LET'S, I WANNA AVOID DOING THE BOOKS, BUT I WANNA HAVE REFERENCE MATERIAL OUT THERE. MM-HMM . OKAY. GOTCHA. WE'LL HAVE TO DO, YOU KNOW, FROM AN EQUITY STANDPOINT, WE'LL HAVE TO DO SEVERAL BOOKS, YOU KNOW, JUST TO HAVE THEM, BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY HAS WELL, OR WE'LL HAVE THEM AVAILABLE. AND IF THEY'RE RIGHT, WE DON'T NEED TO DO THAT INSTANTLY. RIGHT. OKAY. I'M JUST THINKING WORKLOAD AND MM-HMM . YEAH. WE CAN GO. I WOULD, AND THEN DIGITAL, WHY DON'T WE PAPER FREE AND WE, WHY DON'T WE START WITH SOME OF THOSE RESOURCES AND THEN, UM, ADD THEM INCREMENTALLY MM-HMM . AND SO THAT THERE'S NOT AN IMMEDIATE BURDEN WITHIN ONE WEEK TO COME UP WITH EVERYTHING. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. SO I, I'M JUST, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY. YOU, YOU'RE ASKING US TO GO PAPER FREE AT MEETINGS AS WELL FOR I THINK WE'RE TRYING, AND I THINK THAT'S WHO WE ARE, AND THAT WE'RE GOING GREEN WITH AS MANY THINGS AS WE CAN MAKE SURE. OKAY. AND I'D LIKE TO, UH, LEAD THE WAY AS A COMMISSION SURE. THAT WE'RE DOING OUR, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. UM, YEAH. NO, AND WE'RE THE PEOPLE THAT CARE ABOUT GREEN MORE THAN, MORE THAN MOST COMMISSIONS. THAT'S TRUE. SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE ELECTRONIC NOTEBOOKS FOR OUR REFERENCE MATERIAL MM-HMM . OKAY. UH, KIND OF A, WHERE, WHAT, HOW CAN WE TAKE THIS TO THE NEXT LEVEL? SO WHAT WE, AND THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING BRAINSTORM. WHAT, WHAT ELSE HAVE WE SEEN OTHER ORGANIZATIONS DO? OR WHAT CAN WE DO TO KICK IT UP A NOTCH? LET US THINK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT. WE'LL, GO AHEAD. WE WILL, LET'S REVIEW THE TRAINING BACK. YOU'RE IN OUR WHEELHOUSE WHERE WE LIKE, WHERE WE'RE ALWAYS ABOUT. YES. CLIMATE ACTION, SUSTAINABILITY, AND RESILIENCY. SO THIS IS, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS. MM-HMM . UM, IT, IT'S GONNA BE, IT'LL BE, IT'LL PUT THE IMPETUS ON YOU AS COMMISSIONERS TO REALLY, YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT, BUT WE TO BUY INTO BEING GREEN. YEAH. AND THEN THAT, THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF OUR DISCUSSION, THAT THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING. OKAY. AND, UH, SPEAKING WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, THAT THEY HAVE SOME CANDIDATES TO FILL OUR VACANT POSITIONS MM-HMM . AND THEY'RE GONNA [00:15:01] INVITE THOSE CANDIDATES TO OUR MEETING ON THE 11TH. OKAY. UH, SO THOSE ARE THE NEW SET OF PEOPLE THAT'LL BE TRAINED, AND THAT IF THEY JUST FROM THE GET GO, KNOW ALL OF THEIR RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE AND IF THEY KNOW WHERE THE REPOSITORY IS. OKAY. UM, I ALSO LIKE PEOPLE THAT ARE VOLUNTEERING WITHIN THE CITY TO START LOOKING AT THOSE RESOURCES, START LOOKING AT THE AGENDAS OF OTHER COMMISSIONS AND LOOK WHERE THEY OVERLAP WITH THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING. OKAY. OR WHAT'S GOING ON AT CITY COUNCIL SO THAT THINGS ARE ON OUR RADAR. OKAY. AND WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT. I THINK WE HAVE THE FOUNDATION OF IT ALREADY IN PLACE WITH OUR, OUR IPADS THAT, THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING RIGHT. EACH MEETING. AND NOW IT'S JUST MAKING THE INFORMATION A LITTLE BIT MORE READILY AVAILABLE WHEN YOU TURN ON THAT. I BET. MM-HMM . SO IT'S, IT'S NOT POINT, CLICK, DO IN. SO IT'S, IT'S SIMPLIFYING AND MAKING, MAKING MORE READILY AVAILABLE. AND MAYBE EVEN PART OF THAT INTO OUR MEETING IS 1 0 1 TRAINING ON HOW TO TURN ON A COMPUTER AND AND HOW TO MAKE SURE THE MIC IS WHERE YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, JUST THE ABSOLUTELY. SOMETIME IT'S THE BASICS THAT . OKAY. YEAH. NO, I, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS AS WELL. ON THE GOVERNMENT SIDE, ON US GOING TO THE WEBSITE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO GO TO AND TAKE OUR TESTS AND ALL THAT STUFF. MM-HMM . WE SHOULD JUST HAVE A, A, A TAB THAT WE CAN GO INTO AND ANYBODY CAN GO, THERE'S NOTHING WE HAVE IN THAT BOOK THAT CAN'T BE PUBLICIZED. LOOKED. RIGHT. GOOD. RIGHT. SO THERE'S NO SECRETS. AND I LOVE THE IDEA OF, I'D LIKE THE TRANSPARENCY. I CAN GET OTHER PEOPLE ON OTHER COMMISSIONS ARE LOOKING AT WHAT WE'RE DOING. 'CAUSE I THINK WE'RE THE BEST. SURE. , YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS RUN EXTREMELY WELL. UH, WE GET THAT. I WISH WE HAD MORE, WISH WE HAD MORE PEOPLE SHOW UP, BUT WE WILL IN THE COMING MONTHS. THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND. YEAH. MORE PEOPLE ARE GONNA HAVE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE OLYMPICS COMING, THINGS OF THAT NATURE ARE GOING TO BE IN NEED OF KNOWLEDGE. UM, BUT THEM SHOWING WHAT WE DO, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. I THINK IT'S JUST OKAY. JUST A WONDERFUL IDEA. YEAH. LET'S MOVE. I I THINK IT WILL EVOLVE. IT'LL START WITH SOME LINKS. YEAH. UM, AND THEN WE'LL, UH, AND THAT AGAIN, LOOKING WHAT OTHER ORGANIZATIONS DO, THERE'S SOME COOL STUFF OUT THERE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. YEAH. UM, LET US JUST, UH, KIND OF WORKSHOP IT A LITTLE BIT AND THEN WE WILL BRING OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS. GIVE US, IT'S GONNA EVOLVE. GIVE US JANUARY, LET'S JUST START WITH WHAT WE HAVE THAT ARE, UH, A SERIES OF LINKS. OKAY. AND THEN, UM, LET'S JUST ALL KEEP THINKING ABOUT WHAT MAKES IT FRIENDLIER. BUT I DO LIKE THAT WE'RE GOING TO WHERE THE MINUTES ARE THAT WE'RE GOING TO WHERE THAT IS. OKAY. BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING. OKAY. AND IT CAUSES YOU MORE TO SPUR TO LOOK TO OTHER THINGS. SURE. AND THEN SENDING THAT OUT TO OUR CONSTITUENCY OF PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE BRAND ADVISORY COMMISSION. IF SOMEONE'S CONCERNED THAT WE'RE NOT DOING SOMETHING EQUITABLY, WE'VE GOT A SPOT, WE'VE GOT, EVERYTHING'S GOING THERE. OKAY. YEAH. ABSOLUTELY. HUNDRED PERCENT. UM, WHICH SPEAKING OF EQUITABLE REMINDS ME, UH, THAT I DID HAVE ONE OF OUR CUSTOMERS CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR, THEIR CHANGE AND, UH, THAT BASIN FOUR OH, THE CANCELLATION. MM-HMM . AND THAT THEY, THEY KNEW THEY HAD, UM, NOT FOLLOWED THE RULES COMPLETELY. AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR, UM, SOME SPECIAL DISPOSITION OR ARE A FAVOR. AND, UM, IT WAS REALLY NICE TO SEE THAT EACH STEP OF THE WAY, UM, WE FOLLOWED THE RULES AND WE WERE CONSISTENT AND WE WERE FAIR, YET WE'RE COMPASSIONATE. EXACTLY. AND THAT EVERY PERSON ALONG THE WAY HAD ESCALATED IT TO THEIR MANAGEMENT. SO WHEN I COULD CALL BACK TO THE CUSTOMER AND SAY, IS ALREADY BEEN ESCALATED, IT'S ALRE. EVERYBODY'S ALREADY AWARE AND EVERYONE'S ALREADY DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO MAKE THIS WORK. ABSOLUTELY. UM, AND THE, THE LEVEL PLAYING FIELD, UM, TO KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT GIVING FAVORITISM TO ANYONE, UM, THAT THE, THE WORST THING THEY COMPLAINED ABOUT IS, GEE, THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE RULES TO THE LETTER OF THE LAW AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT, UM, THE WAIT LIST TO THE LETTER OF THE LAW. GOOD. YEAH. . AND, AND IT'S, WE WANT TO WORK WITH OUR CUSTOMERS TO THE, TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY. UH, BUT THE RULES WE HAVE IN PLACE ARE TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF OUR S RIGHT. AND WE HAVE HAD PROBLEMS IN OUR HISTORY YES. THAT WE HAVEN'T ALWAYS BEEN ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. RIGHT. AND, AND IT'S NICE TO KNOW, SINCE, I GOTTA TELL YOU, SINCE I'VE BEEN ON, I'VE SINCE SOME VERY, VERY SAD STORIES. AND WE PLAYED IT TO THIS [00:20:01] IS THE LAW. THIS IS THE LAW. AND I THINK THAT'D BE A NICE REVIEW, ESPECIALLY IF WE GET A LARGER CROWD OF HAVING SOMEBODY FROM THE TEAM GET UP AND TALK, HEY, HERE'S THE BASIC RULES, HERE'S THE RULES THAT WE ABIDE BY. AND IT JUST, IT JUST SHOWS THAT IF WE, I CALL IT THE PREAMBLE MADAME CHAIR, THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE START A MEETING, MAYBE THAT'S, WE TALK ABOUT SOMETHING NEW AND SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE ENFORCED. YEAH. UM, AND IT JUST MAKES IT AWARE AND IT GOES ON THAT, AND THEN IT GETS, IT'S GET WR WRITTEN IN. SO IF ANYBODY HAS A QUESTION, WE'VE BROUGHT IT UP. YEAH. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT. YEAH. SO YEAH, BECAUSE THERE IS THE, THERE IS THE BOOK TO THE MARINA. YES. YOU GET A SLIP, YOU GET A BOOK, MARINA RULES, REGULATIONS, AND THOSE FOLKS WHO HAVE HAD HEARINGS, THEY'RE, THEY LOOK AT US LIKE, WHAT WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE. YOU AGREED TO THIS , YOU SIGNED UP AGAIN, WE DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO, OUR JOB IS TO KEEP OUR MARINA FULL AND RIGHT. KEEP PEOPLE IN OUR MARINA. AND WE WANT TO PROVIDE THE BEST CUSTOMER SERVICE. AND WE DO THAT TO THE HIGHEST SCOPE OF OUR MARINA RULES AND REGULATIONS. NOW, ARE THERE TIMES WHEN WE WILL WORK TO THE SPIRIT OF THE RULE? ABSOLUTELY. BUT IT HAS TO BE WELL, WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THAT RULE AND REGULATION, WE WILL KNOW. WE WILL NOT GO BEYOND A RULE AND REGULATION FOR PEOPLE. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT PROTECTS THE INTEGRITY OF, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR SLIP PROCESS, OUR WAIT LIST. AND, AND IT, IT, IT PROTECTS YOU, TODD. IT PROTECTS YOU AND THE INTEGRITY OF THIS WHOLE GROUP. BUT IT PROTECTS THE CUSTOMER. YOU GIVE IT TO ONE AND, AND IT, EVERYONE TALKS. YEAH. I GOT IT. WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU GOT IT? OH, THEY LET ME DO IT. YOU KNOW? YEAH. I LIKE BRIAN. HE LOVES ME. NO, I MEAN, IT'S . YEAH. GOOD CALL. SO, ALRIGHT. PROCESS, PROCESS, PROCESS. WELL, BUT, AND THEN THAT IT GIVES US AS COMMISSIONERS MORE CONFIDENCE EACH TIME WE SEE THAT, THAT, THAT WE KNOW WE CAN CONFIDENTLY SAY, OH, I'M SURE THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE PROCESS. I'LL GO THROUGH AND I'LL DOUBLE CHECK. BUT, AND THEN, AND THEN TO BE ABLE TO CALL BACK AND SAY THEY HAVE DONE EVERYTHING AMAZING ALREADY IS MAKES IT SUCH AN EASY CALL FOR US TO CLOSE THE LOOP WITH SOMEBODY AND WE ALL GET THE CALLS. TRUST ME. WE ALL GET THE CALLS AND, AND IT'S NICE SAYING, HAVE YOU TALKED TO THEM? WELL, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO, DON'T GO TO ME, GO IN AND TALK TO TODD. GO IN AND TALK TO STAFF. AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE AND MORE OF THAT AS THE HOLLAND CONSTRUCTION CONTINUES. YES MA'AM. WHEN STUDEBAKER ROADS CUT OFF COMPLETELY, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO GET PEOPLE THAT ARE CONCERNED. AND, AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO BE OUT THERE AS COMMISSIONERS TOO. WE NEED TO GO TO THE FARMER'S MARKET AND WALK AROUND. WE NEED TO GO TO SECOND AND PCH. GO LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE ELECTRICAL CHARGING STATIONS AND HOW MANY SPACES IS THAT TAKING AND AND WHAT'S THAT IMPACT. SO, UH, ONE THING, UH, YOU, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE HOLLAND GROUP AND STUDEBAKER, UM, UH, JOE PALANGO AND NOAH, THEY, THEY PUSHED TO HAVE SOME ADJUSTMENTS MADE THERE. AND UH, UH, CALTRANS, I BELIEVE, UH, ADJUSTED THE TIMING OF THAT LIGHT. YES. YES. SO THAT IT EASED THE CONGESTION GOING THROUGH, UH, AT, UH, PCH AND STEVEN. IT, IT, IT, IT WAS GETTING US PRETTY BACKED UP COMING THAT WAY. SO IT'D BE GOOD TO SEE, BUT I'M LIKE, WHEN I SAT THERE THE OTHER DAY AND YOU KNOW, THE CARS MAKE THE TURN AND THEY JUST, PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND BASIC TRANSPORTATION AND DMV WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. . THEY DON'T LEAVE THAT OPENING. BUT WE WE'RE, WE'RE NOT, UH, EMPOWERED TO TRAIN THE ENTIRE I KNOW, BUT VERY FRUSTRATING. I'M JUST LOOKING AT ALL. NO, WOULD LIKE TO, I HOPE THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE LIGHT SWITCH THAT'S GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN. 'CAUSE YOU ALREADY NOW HAVE TWO LIGHTS MM-HMM . YOU HAVE SECOND STREET, THEN YOU HAVE THE ONE GOING INTO BOTH THE MALLS AND YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE ANOTHER ONE. UH, YOU KNOW, GOING INTO THE PROPERTY. I THINK THERE ARE PLENTY OF TRAFFIC ENGINEERS THAT ARE LOSING SLEEP. YEAH. THEY HAVE TO BE OVER THAT WHOLE, THE PARKING GUYS SURE. DIDN'T, DID THEY? NO, THEY, SO JUST, I TAKE THAT TURN EVERY DAY. YEAH. YOU KNOW, TO AND FROM WORK MM-HMM . AND WHILE IT AT TIMES IT CAN GET, YOU KNOW, CONGESTED. IT IS NOTHING THAT IS UNMANAGEABLE. IT IT IS. YOU MAY HAVE TO WAIT ONE SERIES OF THE LIGHT, BUT I HAVE NOT SEEN IT YET. WHERE IT'S WHERE YOU'RE SITTING THERE FOR 10, 15, 12. NO, I AND, AND WHEN I HEAR, I GO AND DRIVE IT. YEAH. WHEN IN EVERY DAY. AND I'M LIKE, JUST GO, GO MAKE SURE TAKE A LOOK AT IT. AND, UH, I'VE DONE IT A COUPLE TIMES ON THE WEEKENDS AND YEAH. IT'S A LITTLE COMPACTED THERE BECAUSE OF THE FARMER'S MARKET OR BECAUSE OF A AID EVENT AT SECOND AND PCH. [00:25:01] UM, BUT IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST NATURAL TRAFFIC FLOW. TODD, ARE WE GOING TO BE A PART, UM, OF THE QUEEN MARY AREA? IS THAT GONNA COME UNDER THE AUSPICE OF THE MARINE DEPARTMENT OF OUR, YOU KNOW, WITH THE AMPHITHEATER CHAIR ON THE SIDE? NO, NO. WE, WE, THE AMR BLESSING THAT IT'S NOT THAT JUST, WELL, THAT JUST, IT FRIGHTENS ME WHEN I LOOK AT IT. WELL, HARRY BRIDGES PARK, OUR PEOPLE DID SOME AMAZING THINGS THERE. YEAH. BUT 10,000 PEOPLE COMING INTO THAT AMPHITHEATER. 10,000. UM, WOW. WE, SO WE'LL THAT'S A LOT OF PARKING. IT'S JUST TRAFFIC. WE'RE IN CHARGE OF SOUTH SOUTH SHORE LAUNCH. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO IN CHARGE OF THE LANDSCAPE AT, UH, HARRY BRIDGES PARK. OKAY. UM, TBD ON LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE, UH, IN THAT AREA. I'M OF THE MINE THAT IT'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND OKAY. AND SPECIAL EVENTS. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WILL, WE'LL BE READY FOR WHATEVER COMES BASED ON WHAT THE DIRECTION IS FROM SITTING DOWN. I WOULDN'T DOUBT THAT THIS, THERE'S GONNA BE SCOPE INCREASE YEAH. UNDER THE BRAIN BUREAU. YEAH. WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON IN SO MANY OF THE, UM, WATERFRONT ACTIVITIES. YEAH. WE WERE, WE'RE INVOLVED WITH THE PD SIX, UH, UH, DOWNTOWN SHORELINE WATERFRONT. RIGHT. UH, VISIONING, UH, WE JUST HAD A MEETING ABOUT THAT LAST WEEK. UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ACTIVELY, UH, ENGAGING IN STARTING UP THE PD FOUR OVER HERE, THE ALAMEDOS BAY VISIONING. RIGHT. UM, AND WE'RE INVOLVED IN THAT. SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE IT AS IT COMES. OBVIOUSLY, UH, YOU KNOW, THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE, ARE STILL TO BE, TO BE SCHEDULED. GREAT. AND LIKE I SAID, WE'RE, WE'RE READY FOR WHAT COMES. SO I THINK IT'S MAKING US AWARE, MAKING THE, THE CHAIR ONE AWARE AMERICA AND THE TEAM AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON. WE JUST WANT TO HAVE KNOWLEDGE BECAUSE WE GET CALLS THAT AREN'T, AREN'T EVEN A PART OF OUR MODE HERE. YEAH. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WHEN THEY'RE GONNA TAKE OUT, UH, WHAT MIMI'S AND ALL THAT, THAT'S GONNA BE, WHAT IS GONNA BE THAT, I DON'T KNOW. WELL, IT'S PART OF THE RING. NO, IT'S NOT. IT'S WELL, BUT THERE ARE THINGS ONLINE AND THAT'S WHY I THINK IF WE HAVE OUR ELECTRONIC, WE COULD SHARE IT. OURS, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA BE BETTER AND KNOWING WHERE THAT IS AND WE CAN DIRECT 'EM TO A CITY LINK. GREAT. YEAH. SO THE, THAT, SO OBVIOUSLY HAVE THE HOLLAND GROUP CONSTRUCTION THAT'S BECOMING APARTMENTS, CONDOS, WHATEVER YOU WANT. AND SHOPPING AND SHOPPING FLOOR. THE OTHER SIDE WHERE THE PETCO IS, THE PETCO LEASE IS STALLING, 2027 IS WANNA STEP. RIGHT. BUT THAT'S GONNA BE OF THE SAME OKAY. AS THE HOLLAND, HOLLAND CONSTRUCTION. MM-HMM . SO BETWEEN THOSE TWO, I BELIEVE THERE'S GONNA BE APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 1500. 1800. UM, SO IT WAS GONNA BE ADVISABLE FOR ME TO TAKE THE, THE FREEWAY COME DOWN SEAL BEACH AREA TO COME TO THESE MEETINGS HERE. I MEAN, IT'S GONNA BE OR BY WATER. OR BY WATER. YEAH. I MEAN IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA BE, I THINK IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA BE BUSY. YEAH. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM A MARINE BUREAU PERSPECTIVE, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE CONTINUED ACCESS TO THE MARINAS, TO OUR BOAT OWNER PARKING AND AVAILABLE PARKING, GUEST PARKING IN THAT AREA. BUT ALSO LOOK AT IT FROM THIS PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S 1500 TO 1800 NEW CUSTOMERS IN OUR FOOTPRINT. OH, ABSOLUTELY. JUST LOOKING ACROSS THE STREET AT OUR MARINAS. SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT. IT'S, IT'S GONNA GENERATE BUSINESS AND ECONOMIC GROWTH IN OUR MARINA FOOTPRINT. A BIG PICTURE. IT'S GOOD. WHEN WE LOOK DOWN TO SOME OF THE LITTLE ITEMS, THOUGH, WE GOT THAT, LIKE HOLLAND HAS BEEN ABLE TO LEASE THE PARKING PLACES AROUND PETCO. AND SO THAT'S PUT A RELIEF FROM OUR PARKING. BUT NOW WHEN NEW CONSTRUCTION STARTS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, DO WE WANNA ENCOURAGE THEM TO BE RENTING PARKING PLACES ACROSS COAST HIGHWAY? YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE GONNA BE DOING THAT'S PROACTIVE SO THAT WE'RE MAINTAINING THE INTEGRITY OF PARKING PLACES FOR OUR MARINA GUESTS. SO AGAIN, AND THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER ELEMENT OF THE PROCESS THAT THE CITY HAS, IS BEEN WORKING ON FOR SEVERAL YEARS. SO, YOU KNOW, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A PARKING MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR OUR PARKING IN BASIN ONE, BASIN TWO, BASIN THREE, BASICALLY ALL OF OUR BASES MM-HMM . OF ALAMEDA STATE. YEAH. SO, UH, THAT, THAT IS A CONTINUED PROJECT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. RIGHT, RIGHT. NO, IT, BUT, BUT US HAVING INPUT THERE AND UM, AND EVEN IF OUR LETTER WRITING TO SAYING FOR THEM, MAYBE DON'T FORGET GUYS. RIGHT. , IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST AWARENESS. JUST A GENTLE REMINDER. IT'S REALLY [00:30:01] AN AWARENESS. AND IF WE HAVE ALL THAT DOWN ON ELECTRONICALLY THAT WE CAN GO TO, I DON'T HAVE TO MAKE PHONE CALLS 'CAUSE I CAN DIRECT 'EM THERE OR I CAN FIND OUT. I'D LOVE TO FIND, THAT'S HOW I FIND OUT. I MEAN, ON, ON A LOT SHE'LL CALL ME. I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S CALLING EACH OTHER. OH YEAH. I I WAS MADE AWARE OF THAT BY SO-AND-SO KEEPING THE, THE COMMUNICATION UP INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, ONCE, ONCE A WEEK. BUT YOU GUYS ALL ANSWER MY PHONE CALLS AND FACT BASED MANAGEMENT. YES, YES. AND THAT'S WHY I WOULD RATHER DIRECT PEOPLE TO A CITY SITE. RIGHT. OKAY. YEAH. COOL. A LOT OF THE THINGS YOU'RE ASKING FOR ARE ALREADY AVAILABLE. GREAT. ON THE, THE CITY OF LONG BEACH WEBPAGE. UH, A LOT OF, UH, PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS. IF YOU GO TO THE PUBLIC WORKS PAGE AND JUST CLICK PROJECTS, WE'LL HAVE A CHEAP CARD FOR ALL THE COMMISSIONERS THAT YOU WON'T HEAR YOU. NO, I HAVE NO PRINTOUT, NO . JUST A LITTLE THREE BY FIVE CARD. MADAM CHAIR. JUST READ BY. OKAY. I GO THERE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. BUT AGAIN, I, UH, BRIAN TAMLIN AND I WILL START EXPLORING WAYS. THAT'D BE GREAT. MAKE THAT VERY, YOU KNOW, JUST WHEN YOU OPEN UP YOUR, YOUR, YOUR TECHNOLOGY THAT IT'S VERY VISIBLE IF, IF WE CAN DO IT, UM, IN THE MONTHS AHEAD TO SOMETHING THAT'S SLICK. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. UM, THAT, THAT WOULD BE A REALLY OKAY, GREAT THING. AND KIND OF TALK ABOUT THE, THE WHOLE DRIVER OF IT WAS WANTING TO BE GREEN AND MAKING THINGS FRIENDLY, UM, TO FIND ABSOLUTELY. MM-HMM . GREAT. ABSOLUTELY. ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S, UH, ANYTHING ELSE ON OUR MANAGER'S REPORT ON OUR CALENDARIZATION AND THE YESA? UM, I KNOW THE WRAPS WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT WRAPS. I'D LOVE TO HEAR SOMETHING IF WE HAVE ANYTHING MOVING ON THE WRAPS OF THE BUILDINGS, UH, WAS TALKING TO THE CHAIRWOMAN AND WE'RE LOOKING AT, I'M NOT SAYING DUIS ON THE STREET WHEN THEY HAVE THE, UH, UH, THEY DO IT ON PCH, THEY DO IT ON SECOND STREET, YOU KNOW, D-I-D-U-I CHECKPOINTS. UM, JUST AWARENESS. I THINK US BEING COMMISSIONERS AND AWARENESS THAT YOU DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE ON THE WATER, DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE ON THE WATER. I MEAN, HAVING SOME TYPE OF AWARENESS OUT THERE THAT IT'S BEING WASHED. I THINK WE GOT NO FISHING. WE HAVE THAT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT OUT, UH, IN OUR AREA. AND AS THIS GROWS, I THINK HAVING SIGNS PUT OUT WOULD ONLY BENEFIT LAW ENFORCEMENT IF THEY DID PULL SOMEONE OVER. YOU SEE, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DRINK. I MEAN, IT'S IN THEIR BOOK, IT'S IN THEIR MANUAL. THEY KNOW WHEN THEY, THEY GET ON A BOAT. BUT I DON'T THINK THEY DO IT OVER AT, UH, ANY OF THE, UH, ELECTRIC DUFFY BOATS. I DON'T THINK THEY TELL THEM THAT YOU CAN'T DRINK OR DO THEY, WELL, JUST BE MY, BE AWARE THAT VEHICLE CODE ON LAND IS VERY DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT FROM YES, SIR. THE NAV CODE RIGHT. ON THE WATER. UM, SO THERE'S, THERE'S A DISTINCTION THERE, BUT YEAH. WE CAN, WE CAN WORK WITH MARINE SAFETY TO POTENTIALLY, ESPECIALLY DURING THIS HOLIDAY SEASON, UM, IS MAYBE FIND A WAY TO GET SOME SORT OF DIGITAL MESSAGE BOARD OUT ON THE WATER OR SOMETHING. SOMETHING THAT JUST, JUST MAKES PEOPLE AWARE AS YOU'RE COMING INTO JUST A AWARENESS. I LIKE THE IDEA OF DIGITAL. I, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ORDERING ADDITIONAL NO FISHING SIGNS MM-HMM . AND, AND I DON'T WANNA PLASTER YEAH. OUR MARINA WITH RULES. AND, AND, AND I I WANT IT TO BE BEAUTIFUL WHEN YOU LOOK OUT THERE. YEAH. UM, BUT WE DO WANNA REMIND PEOPLE. UM, AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER KIND OF CHALLENGE. WHAT, WHAT CAN WE DO WITHOUT PHYSICALLY PRINTING OUT? YEAH. UH, LET ME DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE AGAIN. THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A, A KIND OF A, A NICE WELCOME. NOT A, BASICALLY SOMETHING IN OUR TURNING BASIN OUT HERE THAT AS YOU'RE COMING INTO ALAMEDA BAY, UH, OR SOMETHING NEAR OUR DAVIES LAUNCH RAMP THAT BASICALLY SAYS, HEY, CAPTAIN SAFELY, DRIVE SAFE, WHATEVER. THIS IS A SAFE BOATING AREA. RIGHT. UM, I, LET'S, YEAH. I I LIKE TURNING AROUND TO THE POSITIVE THAT THIS IS A SAFE BOATING ZONE. YEAH, EXACTLY. YOU KNOW, WE FOLLOW THE SPEED LIMITS. WE WE'RE RESPONSIBLE. WE HAVE OUR VOTER CARDS WE'RE YEAH. YOU, UH, WEIGHTLESS ALCOHOL ALMOST IF WE CALL IT A SAFE BOATING ZONE, IF WE, YOU KNOW YEAH. IF, IF WE PUT A MOTION ON THE TABLE THAT WE WE'RE, OUR NICKNAME IS ELEVATED BAY, THE SAFE BOATING ZONE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S . LET, LET ME HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH CHIEF MEDINA. OKAY. UH, SEE WHAT, UH, SEE WHAT WE CAN COME UP WITH. UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO, WE DO HAVE OUR DIGITAL MESSAGE BOARD AT, UH, RAIN STADIUM, BUT I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S, I DON'T SEE MANY OF THE ROWERS WITH FLASKS. YEAH. BUT, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS IF WE DO SOMETHING LIKE ALONG, ALONG, UM, BUT SOMETHING ON THE WATER, I DON'T KNOW. WE'LL, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU THINK ABOUT CHARLIE PARK SPEC WITH IN THE POLICE, [00:35:01] AND HE WAS THE FIRST ONE THAT THOUGHT OF TAKING THE CRASHED VEHICLES AND PUTTING HIM OUT WITH SIGNAGE IN OUR CITY AND THAT, THAT HAD SUCH AN IMPACT. YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT CAN WE DO THAT'S ON THE WATER THAT'S REMINDING FOLKS YEAH. BE CAREFUL. BE SAFE. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. YEAH. LET ME, LET, LET US, UH, LET US CHAT WITH, UH, CHIEF MEDINA AND HIS, UH, BATTALION CHIEF AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, WE CAN COME UP WITH THAT'S, THAT'S IMPACTFUL. I, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, I THINK SMALL SIGNAGE IS NOT YEAH. SMALL SIGNAGE ON THE BOATS. YEAH. I MEAN, SMALL SIGNAGE ON THE LIFEGUARD BOATS, SMALL SIGNAGE ON THE FIREBALL. I MEAN, JUST SOMETHING SAYS DON'T, DON'T DRINK IN CAPTA. I DON'T KNOW. WELL, AND, AND I THINK MORE, MORE JUST SUCCINCT AND JUST VISION. WELL, AND I DO LIKE THAT WE ENCOURAGE THEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN FUTURE NEGOTIATIONS, UM, TO HAVE ANY OF THE VENDORS THAT ARE OUT THERE WHEN THEY'RE NEGOTIATING THAT, THAT THAT'S A PART OF THEIR COLLATERAL MATERIALS. OKAY. YEAH. ABSOLUTELY. YOU GOT THOSE, REMEMBER IT WENT BY ALAMEDAS, UH, YACHT CLUB. YEAH. THE BIG BAT. MAYBE, YOU KNOW, JUST ON ONE OF THE BANNERS. YEAH. KNOW YOU'RE IN A SAFE ZONE. YEAH. YOU KNOW, JUST, OKAY. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. COOL. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. AND I'M SURE A BYC WOULD BE A AMENABLE TO THAT. YEAH. UM, WHAT WERE YOU ANTICIPATING WE WOULD COVER ON ITEM FOUR ON THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE STATUS? WELL, I HAVE A COUPLE ON THAT OH, GOOD. THAT I WANTED TO MENTION THAT WE CAN DISCUSS HERE, THAT WE CAN BRING UP THEN MM-HMM . BUT, UM, THE BENCHES OVER ON BLUFF PARK ARE SO FULL OF GRAFFITI NOW, AND THE NAME TAG, THE NAME PLATES HAVE BEEN STOLEN AND GRAFFITI AND, UH, IT LOOKS REALLY BAD. YEAH. AND I, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, UM, THERE'S BEEN SOME LIKE PLASTIC SIGNS PUT IN MM-HMM . MM-HMM . BUT THE AREAS WHERE THEY CHIPPED AWAY THE OLD, THE THE BRASS ONES YEAH. IT'S, UM, ARE JUST BIG CHUNKS ON, ON MISSING ON THE BENCHES RIGHT NOW. AND THEY, THAT AND, AND, AND THEN THERE'S JUST THIS GR GRAFFITI ALL OVER. THESE KIDS ARE TAGGING AND JUST MAKING A MESS. I'LL HAVE OUR, UH, I'LL HAVE OUR MAINTENANCE STAFF GET OUT THERE AND TOUCH UP ANY GRAFFITI. UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH, UH, UH, PARTNERS OF PARKS RIGHT NOW TO ADDRESS THE, THE PLAQUES. YEAH, EXACTLY. UM, WE CAN'T PUT ANY VALUABLE METALS OUT THERE. NO, WE CAN'T. WE JUST, WE WERE SURPRISED THEY HAVEN'T STOLEN THE, THE MECHANISMS FOR THE, THE SPRINKLING SYSTEM AND ALL OF, OR THE, THE LONE SAILOR. IT'S STILL THERE. THE SAILOR ONE. THE NO, I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE SAILOR HIMSELF. TELESCOPE GONE. THE TELESCOPE WAS THERE LAST WEEK. IT'S GONE. WE WERE WALKING ON ON SUNDAY AFTERNOON AND WE'RE LIKE, WHERE'D THE TELESCOPE GO? BUT SO WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING WITH PARTNERS OF PARKS TO ADDRESS A NEW MATERIAL, UH, POTENTIALLY THREE PRINTING MM-HMM . AND THEN EPOXYING IN. UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S COMING SOON. RIGHT. WE'RE, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON BEST MATERIALS. WE'RE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, IN THE ENVIRONMENT OF MATERIALS TESTING RIGHT NOW. THERE YOU GO. WELL, THAT'S WHY THAT WAS. WELL, IT'S SAD BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A PRIDE OF WORKMANSHIP FOR ALL OF OUR PEOPLE THAT HAVE INSTALLED THOSE AND, AND THE METHODOLOGY THAT THEY USED AND, AND THEN TO HAVE IT VANDALIZED LIKE THAT IS PAINFUL. YEAH. EL DORADO, EL DORADO GOLF COURSE, LIKE I BROUGHT UP MEETINGS AGO, UH, ALL THAT EL DORADO IS ALL SANDBLASTED INTO THE SAND INTO THE THING, AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL. AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE TALKING WITH PARTNERS OF PARKS ABOUT CHANGING OUR BENCH MODEL, RIGHT? MM-HMM . AND NOT DOING PLAQUE PLAQUES, ENGRAVED PLAQUES, AND POTENTIALLY DOING, YOU KNOW, UH, ETCH SANDBLAST ETCHED. RIGHT. OR, OR, YOU KNOW, GOING AWAY FROM THE, THE CEMENT BENCH AND GOING TO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE AKIN TO WHAT, UH, NEW YORK CITY DOES WITH GRAND CENTRAL, UH, PARK. YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THE, THE SLAT BENCHES AND METAL AND SLOTS. IT'S JUST A LITTLE, UH, UH, UM, TEMPLATE, A LITTLE, LITTLE PLATE THAT SAYS THIS BENCH DEDICATED. AND SO ANOTHER BIG ISSUE WITH US IS, OR THAT WE'RE HAVING, IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A TEMPLATE FOR THE PLAQUES. SO IT WAS LIKE, OH, I WANT THIS PLAQUE, I WANT THIS PLAQUE, I WANT THIS. SO WE HAVE DOZENS UPON DOZENS OF BENCHES AND NOT ONE, AND ALL THE HOLES ARE EMPHASIZED. SAME. YEAH. SO IT'S DIFFICULT. EVERY SINGLE PLAQUE HAS IS CUSTOM MADE. SO THAT'S [00:40:01] ANOTHER, AND WE NEED TO GET OFF THAT ONE OFF MENTALITY. YEAH. MM-HMM . SO WE'RE LOOKING AT GOING TO A MORE, HEY, YOU CAN HAVE OPTION A, B, OR C AND THEN GO IN THERE. AND THEN REPLACEMENT IF AND WHEN THERE IS DAMAGE WILL BE A LOT QUICKER AND, AND MORE EFFICIENT. YEAH. OKAY. AND THE OTHER ITEM TERMS OF THE MAX, UH, PEOPLE, THEIR TERMS, THE, THE COMMISSIONER'S TERMS. YES. YEAH. WHO'S, WHO'S COMING UP, LIKE, I THINK IN JUNE I'M UP, YOU AND, UM, COMMISSIONER, LAMB AND LAMB. YEAH. MM-HMM . OKAY. YEAH. SO YEAH. UM, AS WE, WE HAVE TWO THAT ARE, ARE UP, EXCUSE ME, WE HAVE TWO THAT ARE UP THIS YEAR, AND I THINK WE HAVE ONE OR TWO THAT MAY BE UP NEXT YEAR. MM-HMM . UM, SO IT'S, IT'S JUST THE STANDARD PROCESS OF, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, TURNOVER. YEAH. YEAH. SO I THINK IT'S JUNE, BUT, BUT, BUT SOME OF THAT PLANNING AND, AND PUTTING THAT IN OUR, KIND OF OUR, OUR BATTLE RHYTHM THAT WE KNOW WHEN THE JUNE IS THE LAST MEETING FOR THOSE COMMISSIONERS TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR SERVICE. HUNDRED PERCENT. OF COURSE. YEAH. BUT, BUT PLANNING THAT, SO WE WE'RE KNOWING AND THEN ALSO LETTING THE MAYOR'S OFFICE KNOW SO THAT WE GET PLENTY OF APPLICANTS IN ADVANCE AND HAVE IT IN ADVANCE ALMOST, WHERE, YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S, IT'S THAT THAT TURNAROUND IMMEDIATELY INSTEAD OF WAITING ANOTHER SIX MONTHS FOR SOMEONE TO COME IN. WELL, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF DRIVEN BY THE MAYOR'S OFFICE THAT THEY'RE ONLY HOLDING THEIR INTERVIEWS ANNUALLY. YEAH. SO WE NEED TO ANTICIPATE AND HAVE PEOPLE IN QUEUE. HMM. SO, AND THAT'S, I, I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, JUST VIA DISCUSSIONS WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE WORKING TOWARDS RIGHT NOW. OKAY. IS BUILDING UP A APPLICANT POOL FOR THIS NEXT, UH, APPOINTMENT PROCESS. MM-HMM . OR APPOINTMENT PERIOD. AND I BELIEVE THAT'LL BE HAPPENING IN THE SPRING, SO GREAT. YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. WE MAY NEED TO MAKE THIS LOOK LIKE AN ATTRACTIVE POSITION. ABSOLUTELY. . UH, OH, ANYTHING ELSE, THERESA? NO, NO. UH OH, I DIDN'T DO THE TRAINING. THAT WAS DUE NOVEMBER 30TH. IS THAT STILL? OH MY GOD. NO WONDER YOU'RE OUT THEN. JUNE, I'M GONNA RECOMMEND YOU TAKE THE TRAINING, DO THE TRAINING AS SOON AS YOU CAN. OKAY. AND THEN, UH, HAVE YOU HAD ANY ISSUES IN ELECTRONICALLY? I HAVEN'T TRIED IT YET. OKAY. AND THAT'S THE CYBERSECURITY, THAT'S THE CYBER TRAINING, YES. YEAH. SO, YEAH. AM I STILL ON THAT? DID I TAKE I TOOK MINE. I THINK, UH, I'M GONNA HAVE TO REVIEW THAT. CAN YOU CHECK? I ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE GOING PAPER FREE, WE WANT EVERYBODY, UH, EVERYBODY IS, UH, DIGITALLY SOUND. YEAH. AND, AND IS, DO YOU HAVE AN EASY WAY TO CHECK THAT WE'VE ALL YES. OKAY. AND THAT WAY IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD, I THINK I SENT IT ANY EMAIL. EMAIL. SEND IT TO SEND IT TO ME. EMAIL. DON'T, DON'T SEND DON'T SEND IT TO HER. WELL, I DIDN'T MEET BECAUSE SHE TOOK, IT ISN'T DONE. NO, NO, NO. IT JUST WOULD BE NICE TO SAY DURING THE MEETING THAT WE'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT COMPLETE. YES. AND JUST KNOW THAT, UH, WHILE OBVIOUSLY IT'S A CITY REQUIRED TRAINING, IT'S ACTUALLY GOOD FOR YOUR, YOUR HOME. IT. OH, YES. OH YEAH. IT'S JUST GOOD KNOWLEDGE TO HAVE, UH, TO PROTECT YOUR OWN LAPTOPS AND YOUR OWN, UH, DESKTOPS. DON'T, DON'T, DON'T CLICK ANYTHING. YOU DUNNO. YEAH. YOU DUNNO. EXACTLY. I HAVE A, ONE OF THE BOARDS I SIT ON HAS MONTHLY CYBER TRAINING. OH, WOW. OH YEAH. AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A PACKAGE THEY BOUGHT AND WE'VE BEEN OUT USING IT FOR THE PAST ALMOST THREE YEARS NOW. MM-HMM . AND EVERY MONTH IT'S A DIFFERENT VIDEO AND IT'S KIND OF, THEY, THEY USE IT WITH HUMOR. IS THAT SO THAT, I THINK IT'S THE SAME ONE UPS WENT THROUGH. IT'S LIKE THE CYBER GUY THAT COMES IN AND GOES INTO THE BUSINESS. YEAH. ONE GUY IN HIS PAJAMAS. YES. IT'S LIKE THE GOOD ANGEL AND BATTING ON YOUR SHOULDER. THAT'S FINE. YEAH. SO, OKAY. AND I'M SURE ANYTHING I GOTTA, I GOTTA GET, I HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WAS ON THE EXECUTIVE THAT YOU WERE ENVISIONING? NO. ANY OTHER BUSINESS BEFORE. UH, AND LET'S ADJOURN IN HONOR OF, UM, MAYOR BOB FOSTER. MAYOR BOB FOSTER. AMEN. AMEN. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.