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2 32.SO I'D LIKE TO CALL THE GOLF ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING TO ORDER FOR DECEMBER 4TH.
WITH THAT, UM, GUESS WE'RE READY TO CALL THE ROLE CHAIR FITZGERALD HERE.
AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANY, UH, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO, TO FOLLOW THE SCRIPT ON THE, THE SECOND PART.
'CAUSE WE HAVE ALL OF OUR MEMBERS HERE, I THINK MAYBE FOR THE FIRST TIME.
AND WITH THAT, I GUESS WE MOVE ON TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA.
SO ITEM NUMBER ONE IS RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE GOLF ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING OF THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 4TH, 2025.
AND CAN I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THIS ITEM? MOTION? OKAY.
ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT THE MINUTES? SEEING NONE.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THE MINUTES? RIGHT.
AND WE HAVE A, A MOTION FROM MEMBER ILEY, A SECOND FROM MEMBER BARRETT.
AND I THINK WE'RE READY FOR THE, TO CALL THE RULE.
AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO.
RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE CITY GOLF OPERATION AT ORAL UPDATES.
AND CAN I GET A MOTION ON THIS ITEM? MOTION? OKAY.
GOT A MOTION FROM INGS AND A SECOND FROM YOUNG.
AND ANY PUBLIC COMMENT,
WE COULD HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS POINT, BUT WE'LL, UH, WE'LL HAND IT OVER, UH, FOR A, A CITY UPDATE.
UM, NOT, NOT, NOT MANY UPDATES FROM ME.
UM, WHAT EXTRA TIME I MAY HAVE, UH, SPENT ON MY UPDATES.
I WILL, UM, UH, PUT INTO, UH, GETTING A GROUP PHOTO, PLEASE OF THE COMMITTEE IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE MEETING.
WE'LL JUST HEAD OUT RIGHT TO THE FRONT AND SNAP A PHOTO BEFORE YOU ALL, UH, SCATTER.
AND THEN, UM, I'M GOING TO LET, UH, OUR, UM, PARTNERSHIP OFFICER, SHE BEATTY, UM, GIVE YOU SOME OTHER UPDATES, UH, FROM WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY.
HELLO EVERYBODY AND GOOD AFTERNOON.
SO YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HEARD, BUT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CHANGE GOING ON IN OUR DEPARTMENT AND SOME CHANGES THAT COME IN OUR WAY.
SO I JUST WANNA GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THAT.
SO, AS WE ALL KNOW, UM, DIRECTOR BRENT, BRENT DENNIS, HE, UM, LEFT AS AND RETIRED BACK IN AUGUST.
AND SO WE'VE HAD, UM, INTERIM DIRECTOR STEVEN SCOTT, UM, AND THAT ROLE UP UNTIL NOW.
SO IT HAS JUST BEEN ANNOUNCED THIS WEEK THAT STEVEN SCOTT WILL CONTINUE AS OUR DIRECTOR OF PARK DIRECTOR AND MARINE.
SO HE'S GONNA BE OUR OFFICIAL DIRECTOR.
HE IS BEEN WITH OUR DEPARTMENT MANY YEARS AND IS ACTUALLY BEEN IN INTERIM DIRECTOR THREE OR FOUR TIMES PRIOR TO THIS ONE.
SO HE IS STEPPING IN THAT ROLE AND IT'S GONNA BE LEADING THE CHARGE HERE.
SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT.
ALSO, WE HAVE A NEW CITY ATTORNEY THAT'S BEEN WORKING WITH OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT ASSIGNED TO OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT.
UM, SO WE HAVE MILLICENT RO IS OUR NEW CITY ATTORNEY ASSIGNED TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS.
SO THAT POSITION GOT FILLED AND KIND OF HELPING US TO SPEED UP SOME THINGS AND GET THINGS ON THE ROLL.
SOME OTHER NEWS, WE HAVE JEN, THEY, JEN DE PREY.
SHE'S BEEN WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
UM, SHE IS ACTUALLY COMING TO US NOW TO HELP US.
JANE GRATE, IF YOU GUYS MAY REMEMBER, SHE'S BEEN, WAS WITH OUR DEPARTMENT, I THINK ALMOST LIKE 40 YEARS.
UM, AND DID A LOT OF OUR MARK, ALL OF OUR MARKETING, OUR BROCHURES AND ALL OF THAT.
SO THAT POSITION HAS BEEN FILLED.
AND JENNIFER COMES TO US FROM OUR CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
SHE WAS A PUBLIC AFFAIRS SPECIALIST IN MEDIA RELATIONS, UM, PERSON AT CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
AND SO NOW WE'LL COMING, JOINING OUR TEAM HERE AND PARKS.
WE'RE KIND OF FILLING SOME POSITIONS GOING AROUND.
BUT WITH THAT SAID, AS WE'RE FILLING POSITIONS, THAT ALSO MEANS WE HAVE VACANCIES COMING AROUND.
SO WITH STEVE'S DEPARTURE, UM, WE HAVE A VACANCY AS OUR BUREAU MANAGER, UM, BUREAU MANAGER FOR BUSINESS OPERATIONS.
SO THAT POSITION WILL BE POSTING SOON.
UM, IN THE INTERIM IT'S BEEN JANICE MCMILLAN SHE'LL, SHE'LL CONTINUE IN THAT ROLE UNTIL THEY DO HIRING FOR THAT POSITION.
BUT THEN ALSO COMING, UH, DECEMBER 18.
GLADYS KAISER, MANY OF YOU MAY KNOW GLADYS,
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SHE'S BEEN WITH OUR DEPARTMENT FOR MANY YEARS, IS IN OUR COMMUNITY RECREATION SERVICES BUREAU.THEY HANDLE ALL THINGS PROGRAMMING RELATED IN OUR PARKS AND ALL THE PARK PROGRAMS. SHE HAS ANNOUNCED HER RETIREMENT, SO SHE'LL BE LEAVING OUR DEPARTMENT IN DECEMBER 18TH.
SO THAT WILL BE ANOTHER VACANCY COMING UP,
UM, SO LOTS OF MOVEMENT AND THINGS HAPPENING IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.
NOT JUST HERE IN OUR DEPARTMENT, BUT ALSO IN THE CITY.
AND THEN JUST ANOTHER THING TO NOTE, UM, AT THE SAME TIME BRENT HAD LEFT, SO DID, UM, ERIC, WHO WAS OUR DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS FOR THE CITY AND THEY HAVE ALSO FILLED THAT POSITION.
SO JOSHUA HICKMAN, UM, WHO HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN WORKING WITHIN PUBLIC WORKS AND HAD BEEN ACTING AS THE INTERIM DIRECTOR, IS NOW THE OFFICIAL DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AS WELL.
SO THAT'S ALL OF THE MOVEMENT AND CHANGES AS OF RIGHT NOW.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SHARE.
AND I'M JUST OUR PARK PARTNERSHIPS OFFICER NOW.
ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS? THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT.
HOW, HOW LONG DOES IT TYPICALLY TAKE TO FILL THESE ROLES? I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL SOMEONE'S OFFICIALLY RETIRED TO POST THE POSITION.
AND THEN YOU GO THROUGH, THEN GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
WELL SEE, BRENT LEFT US IN AUGUST AND HERE WE ARE DECEMBER.
THEY SET A REAL, THEY WERE REALLY AGGRESSIVE ABOUT WHEN THEY WERE GONNA FILL THAT.
SO THIS IS PROBABLY THE QUICKEST I'VE SEEN THE DIRECTOR GET FILLED.
SO I KNOW OUR, OUR, UM, HR AND THE CITY'S BEEN MOVING A LOT QUICKER AND TRYING TO FILL VACANCIES AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
SO HOPEFULLY THIS WILL ALSO BE NOT TOO LONG, BUT IT CAN TAKE A FEW MONTHS.
AND THEN A LOT OF IT TOO DEPENDS ON IF IT'S INTERNAL HIRE VERSUS EXTERNAL HIRE.
'CAUSE IF IT'S AN EXTERNAL HIRE, THEN THERE'S ANOTHER LEVEL, UM, OF KIND OF CLEARANCE THAT NEEDS TO HAVE TO VETTING THAT GETS DONE PRIOR TO.
BUT IF IT'S INTERNAL, IT'S A LITTLE BIT QUICKER.
BUT IT CAN NEVER LIKE TO GIVE A TIMELINE BECAUSE YOU JUST NEVER KNOW.
ANY OTHER UPDATES FROM THE DEPARTMENT? OKAY.
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I DON'T SEE ANY.
SO WITH THAT, WE HAD, UM, WE HAD A MOTION FROM CONING, A SECOND FROM YOUNG, AND I THINK WE'RE READY FOR THE VOTE TO RECEIVE.
AND FILE CHAIR FITZGERALD? YES.
AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.
RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE AMERICAN GOLF ORAL UPDATES ON THE GOLF COURSES AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
CAN I GET A MOTION ON THIS ITEM? MOTION.
MOTION FROM ILEY SECOND FROM RICHIE.
AND WITH THAT, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY.
THEN I THINK I HAND IT OVER TO, TO GARY.
THIS IS THE FIRST FULL MEETING IN A LONG TIME.
UM, SO THANKS EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE.
UM, ONE OF MY FAVORITE UPDATES FOR TODAY, UM, THROUGH THE END OF NOVEMBER, UH, THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM, UH, WHICH IS OUR VOLUNTEER AMBASSADOR PROGRAM THAT DOES, UM, PACE OF PLAY MONITORING, FIRST TEE MONITORING, UM, THEY PICK UP TRACK ALONG THE COURSE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE STARTED, I WANT TO SAY, UH, I MAY HAVE THE YEAR WRONG, BUT MAYBE SEVEN YEARS AGO.
UM, THIS YEAR THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM HAS RAISED ALMOST $86,000 FOR LOCAL LONG BEACH CHARITIES.
UM, HARTWELL HAS RAISED ALMOST 2000.
RECREATION PARK 18 IS A LITTLE OVER 30,000.
AND SKY LINKS IS JUST UNDER FOUR 37,000, UM, INCLUDING 4,000 FROM THE FESTIVAL.
UM, AND THAT MONEY WILL BE DONATED OR ALREADY HAS BEEN TO THE FOLDS OF HONOR AND THE WOMEN'S SHELTER OF LONG BEACH.
SO THEY'VE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB THIS YEAR AND WE COULDN'T BE MORE PROUD, UM, FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
UM, WE FINISHED TWO BIG ONES THIS YEAR, THREE BIG ONES THIS YEAR.
UM, WE ADDED NEW DRIVING RANGE LIGHTS AND COURSE LIGHTS AT RECREATION PARK 18.
UM, WE FINISHED, UH, REPAIRS AND UPGRADES TO ALL THE PARKING LOTS HERE IN LONG BEACH.
UM, WE FINISHED TS AND BUNKERS AT HARTWELL.
UM, WE HAVE A FEW BUNKERS LEFT TO DO THERE, BUT, UM, THAT PROJECT CAME OUT REALLY WELL.
WE'RE HOPING TO BREAK GROUND ON THE CROSSWALKS AT WARDLOW OR ON WARDLOW, UM, BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
UM, WE'RE WAITING ON PLANS FROM THE CITY, UH, TO BE APPROVED AND DEAD DEAD TREE SAFETY REMOVALS THAT WE DID THIS YEAR.
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IN THERE WITH EMERGENCIES THAT HAVE COME UP WITH THE AIR CONDITION HERE, NEW KITCHEN EQUIPMENT, THINGS LIKE THAT.BUT NOTHING TOO OUTLANDISH, UM, TO REALLY GO THROUGH IN DETAIL.
IT'S, IT'S ON THE LIST, BUT, UM, SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS YEAR, UM, LOOKING AT NEXT YEAR AS WELL.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY COMPLAINTS.
UM, THE GREENS HAVE RECOVERED GREATLY.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, THE RAIN DID HELP.
UH, LOOKS LIKE WE GOT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN NINE TO 11 INCHES OF RAIN, UM, IN THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER, UH, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH OUR YEARLY FORECAST, BUT THE COURSE IS HELD UP WELL.
UM, AND, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE STILL DOING REALLY WELL.
UM, THE LONG BEACH GOLF FESTIVAL, UH, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE WEBSITE UPDATES THIS MONTH.
UM, HOPEFULLY THE, THE WEBSITE WILL BE UPDATED ON JANUARY 1ST OR, OR END OF JANUARY.
UH, THE FULL SCHEDULE AND SIGNUPS WILL BE RELEASED FEBRUARY 1ST.
UM, AND THE LONG BEACH JUNIOR GOLF ASSOCIATION, MS. LISA GEORGETOWN IS RETIRING.
UM, HER LAST DAY WILL BE TOMORROW.
WE'RE HAVING OUR LITTLE, UH, GOING AWAY AND TROPHY CEREMONY TOMORROW.
UM, THE NEW DIRECTOR, UM, ACCEPTED THE POSITION IS GOING THROUGH ALL THE PAPERWORK, UM, THIS WEEK, NEXT WEEK.
UM, HIS NAME'S CONNOR MCCULLOUGH.
UM, AND WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THINGS AT LONG BEACH JUNIOR GOLF FOR THE NEXT TWO OR THREE MONTHS TO GET THINGS OFF THE GROUND AND, AND MOVING OVER THERE.
UM, WE'VE GOT THE QR CODES POSTED EACH COURSE FOR IMMEDIATE CUSTOMER FEEDBACK.
IT'S BEEN POSTED FOR ALMOST TWO MONTHS.
I'VE GOTTEN 15 TO 20, 15 TO 20 RESPONSES.
UM, WE JUST UPDATED THE QR CODES TODAY SO THAT IT COMES BACK IN MORE OF A REPORT FORMAT.
I'VE GOT THE, THE ROUNDS REPORT THAT'S VERY, VERY EXTREME RIGHT NOW.
UM, BUT TO GIVE A QUICK UPDATE ON THE ROUNDS FROM 2023, OH, THIS DID NOT PRINT VERY WELL WHEN I SHRUNK IT.
UM, EL DORADO'S, I WANT TO SAY THAT'S 96,000 ROUNDS.
REC 18 IS 89,000 ROUNDS REC NINE IS 80,000 ROUNDS.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT CUT OFF AND I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT.
UM, AND WE'RE ON TRACK TO BE PROBABLY ABOUT 3% HIGHER THAN THAT IN 2025.
UM, I DIDN'T REALIZE MY EDITS CUT OUT THE, THE NUMBERS ON THOSE, BUT, UM, AS SOON AS I GET IT FULLY COMPLETE FOR EVERYBODY, I CAN SEND THAT OUT TO AND HAVE THE UPDATE THE NEXT MEETING.
UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S EVERYTHING I'VE GOT TO UPDATE TODAY.
BUT GOLF PLAYS UP 3%, ROUGHLY.
AND WHEN WE SWITCH TO, WE SWITCHED FROM FOUR UP TO GOLF NOW.
AND SO THE REPORTING TO GO BACK FARTHER HAS BEEN VERY HARD TO GET FROM FOUR UP.
UM, THE REPORTING MOVING FORWARD IN GOLF NOW IS EXTREMELY BETTER.
UM, SO AS WE GET INTO, I MEAN, JANUARY WILL BE A YEAR.
WE MOVED OVER TO GOLF NOW IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR.
UH, SO OUR YEAR OVER YEAR REPORTS ARE GONNA BE A LOT BETTER AND THEY'RE A LOT EASIER TO RUN, UM, FROM JUST A COURSE BASIS, STEPPING TO HAVE TO GO BACK INTO TWO DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. UM, SO THAT THAT'LL HELP TOO FROM THE, FROM THE INDUSTRY SIDE.
IS IT, UM, ARE THEY PROJECTING IT TO LEVEL OFF AND EVEN MAYBE START TO SINK SINCE WE'RE GETTING PRETTY FAR AWAY FROM COVID AND SORT OF THE RAMP UP.
AND FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, IT'S LEVELING OFF AND IT'S, IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THE COURSES I HAVE IN LA SOME ARE DOING BETTER, SOME AREN'T.
SO THE, IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE DEMOGRAPHIC, DEPENDS ON THE AREA, IT DEPENDS ON, YOU KNOW, THE SUCCESSFULNESS OF PLAYERS CLUB AND THAT AT THAT FACILITY.
UM, THE SHORTER COURSES, I, I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, HARTWELL AND REC NINE HAVE COMPLETELY HELD STEADY.
HARWELL IS ABOUT 10,000 ROUNDS OVER LAST YEAR, WHICH HAS BEEN INCREDIBLE.
BUT IT'S ACCESSIBILITY OF THE COURSE, IT'S MAKING SURE IT'S IN GOOD SHAPE AND HAVING A GOOD PRODUCT TO PUT OUT THERE.
UM, BUT WE'VE KIND OF SEE IT LESS SEEN IT LEVEL OFF.
LONG BEACH HAS ALWAYS BEEN AT 99% CAPACITY.
SO WHEN YOU SAY LEVEL OFF NOW WE'RE, NOW WE'RE FULL, WE'RE NOT OVERLY FULL, BUT THE ROUNDS ARE GOING DEEPER INTO THE AFTERNOONS.
UM, ESPECIALLY WITH BEING ABLE TO KEEP PACE OF PLAY, YOU'RE GETTING THOSE TWILIGHT GOLFERS AND SUPER TWILIGHT GOLFERS THAT GO OUT AND JUST WANNA PLAY NINE HOLES.
JUST SO, AND, AND YOUR INTERVALS ARE, ARE STILL WIDER THAN THEY WERE FIVE YEARS AGO ON THE T SHEET AND YOU'RE STILL AT BASICALLY A HUNDRED PERCENT UTILIZATION.
SO IT WENT DOWN FROM FIVESOMES OF FOURSOMES.
DURING COVID WE WENT TO 10 MINUTE INTERVALS.
WE HAVE NOT CHANGED THAT SINCE.
OCCASIONALLY THERE'S, YOU KNOW, SQUEEZES AND EXTRA TIMES THAT GO IN, BUT NORMALLY WE HOLD
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LIKE A NINE MINUTE PACE, UH, FOR THE TEE TIMES.WE, WE DON'T WANT TO CHANGE IT.
WE DON'T WANNA GO DOWN ANYMORE.
IN TIMES, LIKE I SAID, IT, IT'S KEEPING EVERYBODY HAPPY AND PACE OF PLAY IS STILL GOOD.
SO WE DON'T WANNA CHANGE ANYTHING ON THAT ON THAT FRONT.
IT SEEMS TO COME WITH THE TERRITORY.
IF YOU GO PLAY OUTSIDE OF LONG BEACH, LIKE LAKEWOOD FOR EXAMPLE, IT COULD BE FIVE AND A HALF HOURS, EVEN IF YOU GO OUT AT 7, 7 30 IN THE MORNING.
BUT LONG BEACH PEOPLE COME OUT AND MOVE, SO THANK YOU.
MAYBE A CULTURE THING, I DON'T KNOW.
MAYBE THAT'S 'CAUSE OF THE TIME CHANGE AND THINGS WE'VE RUN INTO, YOU KNOW, SOME EIGHT TWENTIES LAST NINES OUT THERE AND THAT KIND OF THING.
BUT ALL IN ALL, PATIENT POINT HAS BEEN VERY GOOD.
SO I'M GONNA GET THE NUMBER WRONG, BUT WE NOW HAVE ALL THE COURSES IN THE COMPANY WHERE YOU CAN BOOK NINE HOLES ONLINE NOW.
AND THE REVENUE WAS, WAS PUSHING 40 TO $80,000 A MONTH JUST ON BACK NINE REVENUE.
NOW THAT IT'S AVAILABLE ONLINE, LONG BEACH HAS ALWAYS HAD IT ONLINE, SO IT'S NOT REALLY A BIG DEAL FOR US.
UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S BEEN A BIG PROPONENT OF, OF KEEPING PEOPLE OUT THERE TO PLAY GOLF.
OBVIOUSLY WE, WE'VE ALWAYS DONE THAT, BUT WE, I THINK WE ADDED LIKE TWO TEE TIMES TO SEE HOW IT GOES BECAUSE WE START 40 MINUTES BEFORE DAYLIGHT, SO WE CAN'T DO A LOT OF BACK NINE ANYWAYS.
SO TRYING TO GET A FEW MORE OUT THERE.
THEY PLAY WITH GLOW BALLS IN THE DARK,
I MEAN THAT IS REALLY, THAT'S REALLY SOMETHING A HUNDRED PERCENT UTILIZATION OR SOMETHING CLOSE TO IT.
UM, THE OTHER BIG CHANGE, UM, IS WE USED TO USE A COMPANY CALLED SUPREME.
AND I SHOULD HAVE WRITTEN THIS ONE DOWN.
WE USED TO CALL, USE A COMPANY CALLED SUPREME THAT WOULD CHARGE OUR MONTHLY MEMBERS FOR PLAYERS CLUB AND THEY CHARGE US X PER MEMBER WHEN, SINCE WE MOVED TO GOLF NOW GOLF NOW HAS TAKEN OVER, UH, OR WE'VE TAKEN ALL THE PAYMENTS FROM SUPREME AND HOSTED THEM IN GOLF NOW FOR LONG BEACH.
THEY SHUT DOWN SUPREME ON NOVEMBER 21ST.
NOBODY WILL GET CHARGED OR ANYTHING UNTIL LIKE THE 15TH OF NOVEMBER OR 15TH OF DECEMBER IS WHEN YOU'LL BE STARTING TO GET CHARGED FROM GULF NOW INSTEAD OF SUPREME.
UM, SO WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF, I WOULDN'T SAY DISGRUNTLED, BUT FRUSTRATING INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE IF THEIR PROFILES DON'T MERGE CORRECTLY, THEY HAVE TO EMAIL US AND SAY, HEY, WHAT'S WRONG WITH MY ACCOUNT? WE HAVE TO GO IN AND MERGE IT.
UM, SO GOLF NOW IS WORKING ON FIXING THAT ON THE BACK END AND MERGING ALL THE ACCOUNTS.
UM, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY BIG CHANGE THAT THAT'S REALLY GONNA COME UP IN THE NEXT NINE DAYS.
SO IS THAT WHAT HAPPENED WHEN YOUR KEY ALL OF A SUDDEN QUIT WORKING AT FIRE PLUG? NO, A LOT OF THOSE KEYS WILL EXPIRE.
SOME ARE SET TO SIX MONTHS, SOME ARE SET TO A YEAR, SOME ARE SET TO THREE MONTHS.
SO SOMETIMES MOST OF THE TIME THEY JUST EXPIRE AND WE CHANGE THE EXPIRATION DATE ONCE WE VALIDATE YOUR MEMBERSHIP.
BUT, UM, WE GO THROUGH EVERY TWO WEEKS, EVERY TWO WEEKS TO A MONTH AND WE VOID ALL THE KEYS THAT MEMBERSHIPS HAVEN'T BEEN RENEWED.
SO, BUT SOMETIMES THEY EXPIRE.
CAN YOU, UM, CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BERG GETTING BIG PROMOTION AND LOSING
UM, WE'VE GOT, UM, A NEW SUPERINTENDENT BUDGETED FOR JANUARY, UM, WHEN WE WILL FIND HE OR SHE TO FILL THAT POSITION.
UNTIL THEN MARK WILL BE THERE.
UM, SO NO REAL CHANGES RIGHT NOW.
UM, HE'S STILL BASED OUT OF, OUT OF EL DORADO.
HE'S STILL, I MEAN, HE'S STILL GONNA LIVE IN LONG BEACH AND EL DORADO WILL BE HIS HOME, BUT, UM, WE WILL BE FINDING A NEW SUPERINTENDENT AT EL DORADO TO TAKE OVER FULL TIME.
SO NOT TOO MUCH INFORMATION ON IT JUST YET.
NATIONAL DIRECTOR OF AGRONOMY, CORRECT? YEAH, VICE PRESIDENT OF AGRONOMY, I THINK THEY PUT IN GAVE VP TITLE WILL CHANGE TOMORROW PROBABLY.
AND THE COURSES ARE IN SUPER SHAPE, BY THE WAY.
YEAH, I, I WAS OUT WITH THE LADIES CLUB YESTERDAY AT SKY LINKS.
UM, AND, UH, YEAH, I MEAN, WE'RE GETTING INTO THE WINTER SEASON, SO WE'RE GOING DORMANT BUT NOT TOO COLD OF WEATHER YET, SO, AND THE NEXT 14 DAYS LOOK GOOD.
SO YEAH, THAT'S MY REPORT UNLESS ANYBODY HAS ANY, ANYTHING ELSE? JIM'S QUIET DOWN THERE TODAY.
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NOW, UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER, UH, LIKE, UH, IT'S WORKING SMOOTHLY AND ANY OTHER UPGRADES OR CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE OR? I MEAN, THEY CHANGED THE LOGO ON IT,FUNCTIONALLY THOUGH IT'S FUNCTIONALLY SKY LINKS IS THE OUTLIER OF THEIR PORTABLE CREDIT CARD MACHINES THAT DON'T WORK ON FIVE OF THE HOLES BECAUSE NO, THERE'S NO CELL SERVICE.
OTHER THAN THAT, EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE WORKING SMOOTHLY.
UM, JUST OCCASIONALLY, LIKE, LIKE I SAID, I, I'LL GET TEXTS AT 6, 6 30, HEY, SOMETHING'S NOT WORKING.
AND YOU KNOW, WE WILL OBVIOUSLY MAKE HIM A TEE TIME AND FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED.
BUT THERE WAS SOMETHING ON THE CHARACTERS LAST WEEKEND ON THE WEBSITE THAT IF YOU CLICKED ONE LINK IT WORKED.
BUT IF YOU CLICKED ANOTHER LINK ON THE WEBSITE, IT HAD EXTRA CHARACTERS ON, UM, THE WEBSITE LINK SO IT WOULDN'T BRING IT BACK TO THE T SHEET.
I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S WAY BEYOND ME, BUT THEY GOT THAT FOUND AND FIXED PRETTY QUICKLY ON MONDAY.
BUT ANYTIME THAT HAPPENS, THEY JUST LET MOST OF THE PEOPLE JUST LET US KNOW AND WE, WE'D BOOK IT FOR 'EM.
NO, NO MORE CHANGES COMING UP OKAY.
WITH THE FINANCIALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, DISCUSSION FROM MEMBERS? WHEN WILL THE, UH, 2026, UH, TOURNAMENT CALENDAR COME UP? UM, I'LL TALK TO ERIC.
UM, I'M NOT SURE WE'VE GOTTEN INTO 2026 YET.
IT WILL BE BEFORE WE START BOOKING TEE TIMES, BUT WE CAN WORK ON GETTING IT LOADED.
I MEAN, I, HE'S, I THINK HE'S ON 15TH OF EVERY MONTH.
HE'S STARTING TO UPDATE IT, BUT I'LL TALK TO HIM AND, UH, ISAIAH AND GET THAT ON THERE.
IT'S GOTTA COME UP A WEEK BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
FINAL THOUGHTS? QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE.
SO WE HAD ON THE RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE UPDATES FROM AMERICAN GOLF, WE HAD A MOTION ILEY SECOND BY RICHIE, AND I THINK WE'RE READY FOR THE VOTE.
MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, RECOMMENDATION.
RECOMMEND THE DIRECTOR APPROVE THE PROPOSED GOLF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS LIST FOR 2026 AS ENDORSED BY THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE.
CAN I GET A MOTION ON THIS ITEM PLEASE? MOTION.
I GUESS, UH, WHAT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO GO ABOUT THIS? WE HAD A, AN AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING.
SHOULD WE FIRST GO THROUGH THE, AN UPDATE FROM? YEAH.
GARY, WOULD YOU PROVIDE A UPDATE ON THE 2026 PROPOSED CIP? UM, I CAN GIVE AN UPDATE ON IT.
THE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S BIG ITEMS ON HERE THAT WE HAVE, UH, FOR DRIVING RANGE LIGHTS, EXTRA BUNKERS, UM, AND JUST BIGGER PRINT.
SO WE STILL HAVE I THINK, NINE BUNKERS AT HARWELL LEFT, UM, WHICH WILL COMPLETE THE FULL RENOVATION OF THE COURT.
YOU ADDING THE BUNKERS OR JUST REFURBISH IT? UM, AT HARWELL IT'S, YOU DIG 'EM UP, REDO THE DRAINAGE SAND.
OH, THEN, SO AROUND, UM, THE, I MEAN, JUST TO GO STRAIGHT THROUGH IT, DO YOU WANT ME TO GO THROUGH IT OR DO YOU WANT ME TO GO AND UPDATE ON, ON A BROAD SCOPE? YEAH, JUST BROAD.
AND THEN IF THERE'S, AND THEN I THINK KEVIN, WE'LL HAVE COMMENTS OR THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS AND THEN WE'LL HAVE QUESTIONS.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, WHATEVER YOU WANNA, IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR YOU WANNA HIGHLIGHT SOME FUN ONES.
LIKE I SAID, WE'VE GOT, UM, A LOT OF TEES THAT NEED TO BE REDONE AT SKY LINKS.
THAT'S GONNA BE BIG ON OUR LIST.
FINISHING ALL THE BUNKERS AT HARTWELL.
UM, THE NEW MAINTENANCE STORAGE BUILDING AT EL DORADO THAT WE CURRENTLY BARELY CAN USE THE, THE CURRENT ONE.
SO THAT ONE'S GONNA BE GOOD TO GET DONE.
THE ONE FOR THE CITY IS THE ENTRANCE WALL AT EL DORADO.
UM, WE'VE GOT OUR FIRST BID WALK ON THAT ONE, I WANNA SAY JUST BEFORE CHRISTMAS, UH, TO GET THAT GOING.
UM, TEE BOX IS AT REC 18 AND REC NINE.
UM, THE BIG ONE THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRAVERSE THIS YEAR IS WE'RE GONNA REPLACE THE IRRIGATION
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CLOCKS AT RECREATION PARK NINE SO THAT WE CAN START MOVING ALL THE GOLF COURSES OVER TO THE LINKY SYSTEM, UM, AND UPGRADE THE IRRIGATION THERE.UM, SO THAT ONE'S GONNA BE A FUN ONE AT REC NINE TO SEE HOW THE, THE TRANSITION GOES.
UM, WE HAVE PROPOSALS IN TO DO, TO ADD THE DRIVER RANGE LIGHTS BACK TO EL DORADO.
UM, WHAT YOU MAY NOT KNOW IS THE LIGHTS THAT SKY LINKS WERE TAKEN FROM EL DORADO, I DON'T KNOW, 2004.
UM, SO WE'VE GOT QUOTES TO PUT LIGHTS BACK INTO EL DORADO TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THAT RANGE OPEN LATER.
UM, THE PRO SHOP FLOORING PROJECTS ARE ON THERE FOR MOST OF THE COURSES THAT COULD BE BROUGHT INTO A PROJECT THAT AMERICAN GOLF'S PUTTING TOGETHER.
UM, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S IN THERE JUST TO REDO THE CARPETS AND GET RID OF, UM, OLD OUTDATED COUNTERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, YEAH, NEW NURSERY AND DRIVING RANGE NETTING, THINGS LIKE THAT AT EL DORADO.
BUT, UM, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF GOOD PROJECTS ON THE LIST FOR NEXT YEAR.
I KNOW WE HAVE THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, UM, YOU KNOW, ACTION ITEM NEXT, BUT I THINK NOW IT'S OBVIOUSLY FINE TO TALK ABOUT.
SO THE, THE COMMITTEE DID HAVE A MEETING LAST WEEK AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE LORI AND GARY AND, AND THE MEMBERS.
UM, WE, WE, WE, WE TOOK, I WOULD SAY A MUCH DEEPER DIVE INTO, INTO THE REPORT THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU.
I THINK IT, IT ALWAYS COMES BACK TO SOME DISCUSSION OVER WHAT IS A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, WHAT IS INVESTMENT IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE VERSUS WHAT IS GENERAL MAINTENANCE.
AND I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS LIST WAS FULLY SUPPORTED BY THE, THE AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE AS, UM, A A, A GOOD FRAMEWORK NORTH STAR FOR PRIORITIES LIST.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS.
I THINK ONE, ONE OTHER ITEM THAT WE DISCUSSED AT LENGTH WAS THAT THE TOTAL DOLLARS THAT ARE COMING IN FOR AN ANNUAL CIP FOR THE ENTIRE SYSTEM, IS THAT A REASONABLE FIGURE? UM, AND IS THAT CAPABLE OF MEETING THE SYSTEMS INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS OVER TIME? AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE ANSWER WAS IN, IN GENERAL, YES.
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME LARGE TICKET ITEMS THAT COME UP FROM TIME TO TIME IRRIGATION SYSTEMS COME TO MIND.
THERE ARE ALWAYS SOME UNINTENDED OR UNPLANNED FOR PROJECTS THAT COME UP AND, AND THERE'S ALWAYS A SIGNIFICANT, YOU KNOW, LINE ITEM FOR THAT.
SO I THINK IT, IT SOUNDED TO US, UH, IT WAS A GOOD DISCUSSION, BUT IT SOUNDED TO US THAT THE, THE PLANNING THUS FAR HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, ON TRACK TO, TO TRY TO MEET THE LONG-TERM NEEDS WHILE ALSO, YOU KNOW, PUTTING TOGETHER A, A VERY REASONABLE AND, AND SOMEWHAT AGGRESSIVE PLAN EACH AND EVERY YEAR TO GET AS CLOSE TO USING ALL OF THE DOLLARS THAT COME IN FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, SPENDING IT SO THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE CONSTANTLY TRYING TO KEEP THINGS UP TO SPEED.
SO, UM, I I HOPE THAT'S A FAIR, UH, SUMMARY AS WELL FROM THE DISCUSSION.
AND, AND IN THE END, THE, THE COMMITTEE, UM, ENDORSED THE, THE, UH, THE LIST THAT YOU SEE OF THE PROJECTS IN, IN FRONT OF YOU.
SO WITH THAT, I GUESS, UH, DID, IS THERE ANY, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS DISCUSSION? I HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF I THINK THIS IS RELEVANT, BUT IS THERE, IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET MORE BENCHES ON ALL THE HOLES? 'CAUSE IT'S LIKE EVERY THIRD OR FOURTH HOLE HAS BENCHES AND WITH A HUNDRED PERCENT USAGE OR CLOSE TO IT.
THERE'S, LIKE TODAY IT'S ALWAYS BACKED UP.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A, IF YOU HAVE EXTRA MONEY OR CAN FIND SOME MONEY TO PUT BENCHES ON THE WHOLE ON THE HOLES.
AND JUST AS A POINT, EL DORADO HERE, PROBABLY SIX MONTHS AGO, THE BENCH FROM THE 10TH HOLE ENDED UP, IT'S ON THE CORNER OF THE DRIVING RANGE.
'CAUSE PEOPLE USE THE DRIVING RANGE AND HANG OUT, YOU KNOW, FOR A LONG TIME AND HIT BUCKETS OF BALLS.
SO THAT BENCH HAS BEEN MOVED TO THE END OF THE DRIVING RANGE.
SO THAT'S FROM SOMEONE WHO PLAYS A LOT OF GOLF, I NOTICE THESE THINGS.
SO, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IF, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT THAT UPGRADE, THE AMENITIES AND YEAH, GO FROM THERE.
THE PACE SHOULD NEVER BE SLOW ENOUGH TO SIT RIGHT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, UH, COMMENTS ABOUT THE CIP LIST? OKAY, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE CROSSWALK.
SO IT'S ON LAST YEAR'S, BUT IT'LL END UP BEING ON THIS
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YEAR'S IT MOVES DOWN.'CAUSE IT WASN'T, IT'S NOT COMPLETED YET, RIGHT? SO IT MOVES ON TO THE 26TH MM-HMM
AND AT THE TOP YOU'LL SEE THE MONEY'S ALREADY EARMARKED FROM 2025.
AND I'LL, I'LL JUST SAY HAVING BEEN INVOLVED WITH A NUMBER OF THESE GOLF COMMITTEES OVER THE YEARS, I THINK, UM, THIS IS A VERY THOROUGH PLAN AND I THINK IT'S A, A GREAT PROCESS TO GO THROUGH EACH AND EVERY YEAR AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS IT THAT WE NEED TO DO.
AND ALSO ARE WE SETTING ASIDE ENOUGH DOLLARS FOR THAT NEXT BIG ITEM? AND THAT IS NOT THE CASE EVERYWHERE.
SO I, I, YOU KNOW, TIP, TIP MY CAP TO LONG BEACH AND AMERICAN GOLF FOR TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO PLAN WELL FOR ALL THE COURSES AS ONE SYSTEM.
IT'S, UH, IT'S REALLY A, UM, IT'S, IT'S AN EXCELLENT SAMPLE EXAMPLE FOR, FOR OTHERS.
IT'S AMBITIOUS FOR ONE YEAR, BUT IT IS, WE CAN ROLL IT INTO 2027 AS NEEDED, BUT WE'LL TRY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT.
UM, WE HAD THE MOTION FROM YOUNG SECOND FROM RICHIE TO RECOMMEND THE DIRECTOR APPROVE THE PROPOSED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS LIST FOR 2026 AS ENDORSED BY THE CIP AD HOC COMMITTEE.
UH, WITH THAT, I THINK WE'RE READY FOR THE, THE ROLL CALL.
AND WITH THAT MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED 2026 GOLF ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING DATES.
AND CAN I GET A MOTION ON THIS ITEM? MOTION? OKAY.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM ANDERSON, SECOND FROM RICHIE AND PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE DATES.
I GUESS, UM, EVERYONE HAS A, A DRAFT HERE FOR 2026.
AND I GUESS, UH, LORI, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE IT FROM HERE? SURE.
UM, YEAH, NOT, NOT MUCH, UM, NEEDED TO ADD, BUT, UM, I THINK THIS IS OUR SECOND YEAR OF TRYING, UH, KINDA SHIFTED BY A MONTH, UM, LAST YEAR.
SO, UH, HOPEFULLY THESE DAYS STILL WORK WITH EVERYBODY.
UM, THE, I THINK JUST THE ONLY ONE TO FLAG REALLY WOULD BE THAT SEPTEMBER 3RD IS THE WEEK OF LABOR DAY.
SO JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND.
BUT, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE KIND OF TRIED TO PULL OUT SOME OF THE AGENDA ITEMS THAT YOU FREQUENTLY SEE ON THESE QUARTERLY MEETINGS.
AND, UM, SEPTEMBER IS USUALLY KIND OF A LIGHTER ONE, UM, GIVEN HOLIDAYS AND THINGS.
SO, UM, YES, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY FEEDBACK, UM, WELCOME TO HERE.
UM, MARCH 5TH, I'M OUT OF TOWN.
WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO WORK AROUND THAT DATE THEN.
UM, BECAUSE THAT'S A PRETTY IMPORTANT ONE FOR YOU TO BE HERE.
THAT'S USUALLY OUR FEES, OUR FEES GO ON THAT DAY.
UM, ALL RIGHT, THEN MAYBE WE CAN APPROVE THE OTHER THREE AND LEAVE, LEAVE MARCH UP TO BE DECIDED.
UM, WE COULD WE APPROVE THE SCHEDULE AND THEN SHIFT THE DATE? OR IS THERE, I MEAN, I, I JUST MM-HMM
I DON'T KNOW IF, CAN WE HAVE THE NEXT MEETING IF WE DON'T APPROVE THE MEETING? WE CAN.
YES, BECAUSE THAT WAS JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
THAT'S THE WEEK BEFORE, A WEEK AFTER.
THAT'S JUST THE WEEK FOR THE FLORIDA CAR AUCTION.
WE'LL TENTATIVELY SAY MAYBE THE WEEK, THE WEEK, THE SECOND WEEK OF MARCH.
SO THAT 12TH WOULD BE MARCH 12TH.
I THINK WE HAD TO MOVE IT THIS YEAR TOO.
THE ONE BEFORE OR AFTER WORK FOR ME, ME, THE 26TH OF, UH, FEBRUARY OR THE 12TH.
SO WE HAD A, A MOTION AND A SECOND TO RECOMMEND THE PROPOSED MEETING SCHEDULE, BUT, UM, WE ARE NOW CHANGING THE MARCH, MARCH 5TH TO MARCH 12TH.
UM, AND WE'RE STILL GOOD WITH THAT MOTION.
DO YOU NEED A MOTION TO AMEND THIS? WHAT DO YOU THINK?
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CAN DO IT.SO, UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, COMMENTS WITH THAT? I THINK WE'RE READY FOR THE, FOR THE RULE.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, OUR FAVORITE ITEM, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A REPORT FROM CURRENT AD HOC COMMITTEE.
DISCUSS ANTICIPATED AD HOC COMMITTEES FOR UPCOMING PROJECTS, AND IF APPROPRIATE, TAKE ACTION TO DISSOLVE OR CREATE AD HOC COMMITTEES.
AND WITH THAT, CAN I GET A MOTION TO START, START OUR, OUR FAVORITE ITEM HERE? MOTION.
I'VE GOT A MOTION FROM BARRETT.
AND WITH THAT, UH, SHOULD, SHOULD I START SINCE WE DID HAVE ONE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING? YES.
SO I THINK WE, WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THE CIP, BUT WE DID HAVE AN AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE.
MY UNDERSTANDING NOW IS THAT WE WOULD DISSOLVE THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE BECAUSE IT HAS DONE ITS WORK, UM, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY CONSIDERED AND, AND MOVED THROUGH.
SO, UM, I THINK THE FIRST COMPONENT OF THAT IS TO DISSOLVE THE, MAKE SURE I SAY THIS CORRECTLY.
THE, UM,
AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE A NEED FOR A FEES AND CHARGES SUBCOMMITTEE.
AND WE NEED, AND SO WE CAN HAVE UP TO FOUR MEMBERS ON THAT.
AND SO THIS, UM, AD HOC COMMITTEE WOULD BE, UH, REVIEWING THE PROPOSED GOLF FEES FOR 2026 TO 2027.
UM, AND THEN IT WOULD COME TO THE FULL COMMITTEE AT THAT MARCH MEETING.
SO WE'D MEET PROBABLY IT, IT WOULD A SHORT TIMEFRAME.
THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T WANNA PUSH THE MEETING SOONER, THE FULL COMMITTEE MEETING SOONER, BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT, LIKE, WE'D PROBABLY HAVE TO MEET AT THE END OF FEBRUARY.
CPI RATE COMES OUT WHAT? VALENTINE'S DAY BASICALLY? MM-HMM
THAT'S THE COMMITTEE I ASKED YOU ABOUT EARLIER THAT I FORGOT ABOUT THAT I OH, OKAY.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO ABSOLUTELY PUT YOUR HEAD IN THERE.
WHAT?
I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO CYCLE THE MEMBERS THOUGH, SO I WAS ON THE LAST ONE.
ANYONE ELSE? SO WE'VE GOT ROOM, SO, OKAY.
AND NOW I'LL DO SHERIFF FITZ CHAIR.
SO, SO SHOULD I TRY THIS AGAIN? SO, YES.
SO OUR MOTION IS GOING TO BE TO DISSOLVE THE CIP AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE AND CREATE A FEES AND CHARGES SUBCOMMITTEE THAT WILL MEET PRIOR TO OUR NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING.
AND WE NOW HAVE A ROSTER FOR THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE.
UM, AND WE WILL PUT THAT IN THE, UM, WE'LL PUT THAT IN THE MOTION WHEN WE PUT IT IN THE MINUTES.
UM, AND JUST, UH, TO RECAP AGAIN FOR EVERYBODY THAT WAS, UM, SORRY.
I WROTE DOWN YOUR FIRST NAMES AND I CAN'T, THAT WAS, UH, MEMBER MAILER, CHAIR FITZGERALD, MEMBER ELEY AND MEMBER ANDERSON AS MEMBERS.
I, YOU KNOW, I WANNA MAKE SURE I, I GAVE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
I'M NOT SURE THAT I DID IT AT THE RIGHT TIME, SO ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.
I THINK NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? WE ARE READY FOR THE VOTE.
WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING BETTER WITH THIS ITEM.
THAT, THAT ONE HAS BEEN A, A TOUGH ONE, SO MY APOLOGIES FOR THE FINANCE AND FEES.
UM, WE'LL SEND OUT, UH, IT'LL BE LATE FEBRUARY.
AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE GOLF ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON ALL NON AGENDA ITEMS. SPEAKERS HAVE THREE MINUTES TO MAKE THEIR COMMENTS.
AND, UM, AT THIS TIME WE WILL TAKE ANY NON AGENDA, PUBLIC COMMENT, IF THERE IS ANY.
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NO PRESSURE.AND THEN PLEASE JUST, UH, INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR LISA GEORGESON.
UH, FOR ANOTHER TWO DAYS, I'LL BE THE DIRECTOR OF LONG BEACH JUNIOR GOLF.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I NEEDED TO TALK TO YOU,
I NEEDED TO TALK TO LAURIE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, PUBLICLY THANK, UM, AMERICAN GOLF AND GARY.
UM, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN AN EMPLOYEE OF AMERICAN GOLF FOR 40 YEARS.
SO, UM, AND I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE CITY OF LONG BEACH.
UM, JUNIOR GOLF HAS BEEN THE JOY OF MY LIFE AND, UH, I JUST, UM, REALLY CHERISH THE FACT THAT MY HOMETOWN GAVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, IMPART THE GAME.
I LOVE TO, UM, KIDS NOT JUST FROM LONG BEACH, BUT FROM SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
I KNOW MEMBER BARRETT IS EXCITED FOR, TO RETIRE
SO, UM, ANYWAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, KIM.
I WOULDN'T WANT FOLLOW THAT CHICKEN.
WITH THAT, I GUESS WE WILL MOVE ON TO ANNOUNCEMENTS, MEMBERS AND STAFF.
ARE THERE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? I JUST, I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO MEET YOU, BUT I'M GONNA SAY CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR RETIREMENT.
I'VE HEARD REALLY GOOD THINGS.
I WAS MEETING WITH LAURIE EARLIER.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE WONDERFUL WORK YOU'VE DONE.
SO HIGHLY APPRECIATE THAT AND WISH I HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME, BUT, YOU KNOW, ENJOY RETIREMENT.
OKAY,
I GUESS IT'S REALLY MORE MAYBE A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM.
UM, BUT JUST WANNA SHARE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THE END OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT COMES UP AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE NEIGHBORING CITIES HAS A GOLF COURSE AND WENT THROUGH A PRETTY EXTENSIVE PROCESS TO LOOK AT, OKAY, THIS IS OUR MOMENT AS THE, AS THEIR LEASE ENDS, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IT, WHAT ARE OUR PRIORITIES? AND I THINK THERE'VE BEEN A FEW, YOU KNOW, THINGS WE'VE HEARD THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE ABOUT POTENTIAL INVESTMENT EXTENSIONS OF, UM, THE, THE CURRENT LEASE MAYBE AT, AT, UH, AND SO ON.
SO MAYBE, UH, IF, IF IT'S POSSIBLE, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO FRAME THIS, BUT IN TERMS OF GETTING OUT AHEAD, UM, THIS SEEMS LIKE ABOUT THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO START POTENTIALLY TAKING JUST A LITTLE BIT OF INPUT FROM THE COMMITTEE.
MAYBE IT'S JUST AN, AN, AN UPDATE AS LIKE, WHAT IS THE TIMELINE, WHEN IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR THIS COMMITTEE TO SORT OF DISCUSS SOME POTENTIAL LONG-TERM PRIORITIES THAT THE, THE NEIGHBORING CITY WAS? I, IT IS A DIFFERENT PROCESS FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING.
A MANY DIFFERENT IDEAS WERE CONSIDERED AND IN THE END THEY WERE PRETTY PROUD OF WHAT THEY HAD.
THEY WANTED TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE A, AN AFFORDABLE ACCESSIBLE GOLF OFFERING.
BUT THEY, THEY REALLY, YOU KNOW, WENT THROUGH A PRETTY EXTENSIVE PROCESS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, CONSIDER ALL THE OPTIONS ON THE TABLE WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT 20, 30 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN? SO MAYBE IT'S JUST A, I I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO FRAME IT, BUT I, I SUPPOSE IN THAT VEIN, MAYBE A, MAYBE IT WOULD START WITH JUST KIND OF A, AN UPDATE IF POSSIBLE AT THE NEXT MEETING ABOUT WHAT IS THAT TIMELINE AND THEN IF THERE ARE SOME SUGGESTIONS ABOUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN AND A PROPOSAL TO EXTEND THE LEASE WITH INVESTMENT, THAT THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE SOMETHING THAT WE'D BE INTERESTED IN HEARING AND, AND HAVING SOME, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSION ABOUT IN 2026.
SORT OF LIKE, WHAT DOES THE PROCESS LOOK LIKE? YEAH.
AND IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN PROVIDE INPUT? MM-HMM
YOU KNOW, THAT THEY WENT THROUGH A, A PROCESS TO DO SOME OUTREACH.
I MEAN, WE EACH HAVE OUR OWN SORT OF CONSTITUENCIES THAT'RE REPRESENTING AND MAYBE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SHARING IF THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE SOME INPUT, YOU KNOW, NOW MAYBE THIS IS THE YEAR TO DO THAT.
MAYBE WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME THAN I'M THINKING THAT WE DO, BUT THANK YOU.
WHEN DOES THAT CONTRACT COME? 2029.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT YOU THINK IS APPROPRIATE FOR, FOR THAT, BUT, UM, NEVER TOO EARLY.
AS SOON AS, IT SEEMS LIKE AS SOON AS THERE ARE PROPOSALS TO TAKE INVESTMENT CIP INVESTMENT AND EXTEND, THAT'S KIND OF THE MOMENT WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT, UM, THAT AS AN APPROPRIATE MOMENT FOR SOME PUBLIC INPUT.
DID WE EVER FI FINISH THIS MANUAL THAT WE DID? DID WE EVER MAKE THAT PUBLIC? SO NOW, NO.
NOW THAT WE HAVE A NEW CITY ATTORNEY, UM, I'LL BE GETTING THAT APPROVED THROUGH HERE.
BECAUSE I WAS THINKING THAT'S KIND OF IMPORTANT WITH TYING IN WITH WHAT KEVIN JUST
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SAID.IS THERE AN UPDATE ON THE SMOKING BAN? SAME.
SO HOPEFULLY BY NEXT MEETING I'LL HAVE SOME GOOD UPDATES ON THOSE FOR YOU GUYS.
I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT ONE IN A WHILE.
AND THEN ALONG WITH, IS THERE A PLAN TO BAN SOMETHING SMOKING? THEY ARE, THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT IN THE PRACTICE AREAS.
MM-HMM
I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WILL BE UPSET.
ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD GLAUCOMA THESE DAYS.
I THINK, UH, AT THREE 18 WE, UH, IF THERE'S NO OBJE OBJECTION, I THINK WE'RE ADJOURNED.