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GOOD TO.UM, THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR COMING TODAY.
UH, I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE MEETING OF THE HOMELESS SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
CAN WE HAVE THE ROLL CALL, JENNIFER? YES.
AND THEN JUST BRIEFLY BEFORE ROLL CALL, WE DO, WE ARE HOSTING THE MEETING ON ZOOM.
UM, THERE'S NOBODY ON AS OF RIGHT NOW, BUT JUST TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW.
AND THEN FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, UM, WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU GUYS TO SPEAK AFTER EACH AGENDA ITEM.
THERE IS ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY AFTER, UH, THE AGENDA ITEMS TO SPEAK ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. UM, AND IT IS LIMITED TO TWO MINUTES, AND IT'S NOT A Q AND A SESSION, Q AND A SESSION.
UM, SO YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS MAY NOT BE ANSWERED AT THIS TIME.
UM, AND THEN I'LL GO AHEAD AND START WITH THE ROLL CALL CHAIR.
AND STEVEN IS RUNNING LATE ALSO.
SO THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF FOR THE HOMELESS SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING OF WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 1ST, 2025.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BY THE MEMBERS? NO.
JENNIFER, ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? OH, DOUG, I HAVE A QUESTION.
WELL, IT'S NOT RELATED TO THIS AFTER, AFTER THIS TOPIC.
JUST A QUICK QUESTION AFTER THIS TOPIC.
SO SEEING NO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, CAN WE GET A, OKAY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE HOMELESS SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING OF OCTOBER 1ST, 2025.
UM, CAN I TAKE DOUG'S QUESTION OUT?
UH, I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST ZOOM MEETING I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN.
COULD YOU DESCRIBE IT? DESCRIBE IT WHO, WHO CAN PARTICIPATE? ANY MEMBERS AND, AND WHERE, WHAT IS BEING RECORDED? IS IT JUST THE SCREEN IMAGE OR ARE WE BEING RECORDED? CAN YOU DESCRIBE THAT? SO, AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT, IT'LL JUST BE THE SCREEN IMAGE BECAUSE THE CAMERA UNFORTUNATELY IS NOT WORKING TO RECORD ALL OF US.
UM, ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO JOIN OR ANY AUDIENCE.
UM, THE LINK IS POSTED ONLINE ON OUR WEBSITE, AND IT IS ALSO ON THE AGENDA.
WAIT, SO WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS TO SPEAK ON ZOOM, HOW ARE YOU GONNA GO AHEAD.
YEAH, I DID LEAVE A LITTLE SECTION IN THERE SO THAT THEY KNOW IF THEY WANNA SPEAK TO RAISE THEIR HAND ON THE CHAT.
SO THIS, THIS IS FOR PUBLIC, NOT OTHER CITY FOLKS OR STAFF OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? UH, WELL, IT'S OPEN TO ANYBODY THAT WOULD WANT TO JOIN, BUT YES.
FOR THE PUBLIC MEETING, IT'S FOR YEAH.
IF I COULDN'T, THE ZOOM ADDRESS IS ON THE CITY WEBSITE SO THAT ANYBODY THAT GOES ON OUR CITY WEBSITE CAN SEE THIS IS HOW WE PLUG IN.
AND THIS ALIGNS WITH NEW STATE LAW THAT SPEAKS TO EFFORTS TO MAKE PUBLIC MEETINGS SUCCESSFUL ONLINE.
SO THAT ALLOWS US TO I SEE NATALIE'S NAME.
UM, ITEM NUMBER TWO ON OUR AGENDA IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE UPDATES FROM THE MAYOR'S FUND AND POLICY SUBCOMMITTEES AND THE CONTINUUM OF CARE HOMELESS SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE REPRESENTATIVE A MOTION.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.
FIRST LET'S, UM, DO THE MAYORS FUND SUBCOMMITTEE REPORT.
UH, ONE, THE APPLICATION, YOU HAVE AN APPLICATION INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKAGE THAT FOR THE LONG BEACH, UH, COMMUNITY TABLE, WHICH APPLIES TO 31 SOME THOUSAND DOLLARS, UH,
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THAT WAS SENT TO US BY STAFF, UH, RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.BUT NO, THE STAFF DIDN'T, THE STAFF DIDN'T RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
UH, JIM STAFF DIDN'T RECOMMEND APPROVAL, BUT IT WAS SENT OUT TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO, UH, MAKE A FINAL DECISION ON WHETHER YOU WANTED TO PUSH IT FORWARD.
THE, THE STAFF DID MAKE SOME COMMENTS WITH IT, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS ACTUALLY SENT UP, I GUESS BECAUSE WE, THAT'S THE WAY YOU HAVE FOR APPROVAL, SO WE COULD DISCUSS IT, AND WE DID DISCUSS IT.
WE FOUND OUT IN, UH, AND YOU HAVE A SEPARATE PIECE OF PAPER HERE SOMEWHERE THAT, UH, IT DID NOT COMPLY WITH.
CAN I REQUIREMENTS, CAN I, UM, INTERRUPT YOU FOR A SECOND? UM, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED WITH THE, OUR AGENDA BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR COMMITTEE SUBCOMMITTEE REPORT, BUT THEN WE HAVE ITEM THREE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY TO DISCUSS THE GRAND APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY THE LONG BEACH COMMUNITY TABLE.
SO IT IS CONFUSING OUR, OUR MEMORY AS WELL AS MINUTES REFLECT THAT THE VOTE OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE WAS TO NOT TAKE A STANCE ON RECOMMENDATION OR, UH, DISAPPROVAL, BUT TO BRING THAT ITEM TO THE FULL COMMITTEE.
SO THAT IS WHY, YOU KNOW, THERE IS CONVERSATION WITH IT, BUT IT WAS IZED AS ITS OWN SEPARATE THING FOR THE FULL COMMITTEE TO HEARING.
SO WAIT, SO COULD WE HAVE JUST THE SUBCOMMITTEE REPORT, WHICH IS THE, THE LIST OF DO THAT FIRST? THIS, THIS THING AND THE OTHER THING.
UH, ACTUALLY, WELL, OF COURSE IT'S HARD THAT BECAUSE ALL THINGS WERE MENTION, ONE OF I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, UH, WHERE WE ARE ON RAISING FUNDS FOR THIS YEAR.
I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM ANYBODY REGARDING THE UTILITY BILL INSERT.
AND I GOT MY UTILITY BILL IN NOVEMBER OR LATE NOVEMBER, ABOUT A WEEK AGO, AND THERE WAS CERTAINLY NO INSERT IN THERE.
AND ALSO IN LOOKING AT WHAT I WAS SENT, THERE IS A SPACE ON THERE FOR MESSAGES.
AND AT ONE POINT WE WERE TOLD THAT THEY WOULD, FOR THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T GET THE BILL BY MAIL, THEY WOULD INCLUDE A MESSAGE OR MAYBE IT WOULD INCLUDE A MESSAGE FOR EVERYBODY.
AND I HAVE ALSO ASKED FOR A BREAKDOWN AS TO WHAT PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE ACTUALLY GET THE BILL IN THE MAIL AND HOW MANY, JUST PURE EMAIL.
AND I HAVEN'T GOT ANY OF THAT INFORMATION.
AND AT THIS POINT, I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THE FUNDRAISING STATUS IS FOR THIS YEAR.
I CAN DOUBLE CHECK ON THE UTILITY BILL.
THEY DID TELL ME THAT IT SHOULD HAVE GONE OUT IN NOVEMBER.
AND I DID SEND YOU AN EMAIL REGARDING THE FLYER THAT WOULD BE POSTED ONLINE.
FOR THOSE THAT DON'T HAVE, UH, A PHYSICAL BILL, THEY GET AN ELECTRONIC BILL.
WELL, IT SHOULD, THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING ON THE WEBSITE.
WELL, THAT LIENS, WELL, IT CAME IN THE COMMITTEE.
I FEEL THAT I'M NOT IN THE LOOP WITH THIS AT ALL.
I'M NOT GETTING INFORMATION FROM STAFF AS TO ANY PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE TOWARDS THE FUNDRAISING.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE STATUS IS AT THIS POINT, WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO GET OUR INSERT IN THE ENVELOPE IN OR IF THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO PUT A MESSAGE ON THE BILL.
SO HOW DO WE GET THAT INFORMATION FOR THIS GROUP? I CAN CONFIRM THAT IT WAS SENT OUT, BUT LAST, DURING THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING, WE WENT OVER THIS GYM.
I, I LET YOU KNOW THAT, UM, UTILITIES DID SEND OUT THE BILLS.
I'M NOT SURE IF I DON'T LIVE IN LONG BEACH, SO I'M SORRY, BUT NOTHING DEFINIT I HAVE, I DON'T HAVE ANY WELL, I THINK WHAT JENNIFER'S TRYING TO SAY IS THAT FROM HER STANDPOINT, SHE DID DO HER FOLLOW UP, BUT, UM, IF NONE OF US GOT THE INSERTS, THEN UH, MAYBE THERE THEY'RE YEAH, MORE FOLLOW UP.
THE FINAL OF PROOF IS I'M I GETTING, I WILL GET LONG BEACH UTILITIES AND I DID NOT GET ANY INFORMATION.
SO I KNOW THAT IT'S NOT WORKING.
I WAS ADVISED THAT THEY WERE GOING OUT NOVEMBER AND IT WAS 150,000 INSERTS THAT WERE, IT DID NOT GO OUT WITH MY NOVEMBER BILL.
ANYBODY ELSE SEE ANYTHING? I CAN'T
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IT EITHER.AS I SAID, TO BE VERY HONEST, WE'VE SEEN GO THROUGH THIS EVERY YEAR, BUT SOMEHOW WE HAVE DIFFICULTY GETTING IT IN AND FINDING THE INFORMATION WORKING WITH, AND I KNOW THEY, THE RECEPTION ONE TIME TRIED TO CALL UNTIL THE PEOPLE, THEY WERE NOT VERY FRIENDLY.
THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BE CALLED BY US.
SO IT MIGHT BE A THIRD PARTY DOING THE ACTUAL I KNOW, I KNOW.
I CAN, I'LL FOLLOW UP THOUGH AND I'LL EMAIL YOU AS GOOD QUESTION.
HAVE THE ENVELOPES GONE TO THE PRINTER? DO THEY EVEN HAVE THE ENVELOPES? THEY WERE ALREADY PRINTED THE LAST, THE TIME I CHECKED BEFORE OUR SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING, THEY WERE PRINTED ALREADY.
YOU'RE SAYING THEY DO MEANT THE ENVELOPES? MM-HMM
SO WHEN WILL THEY START PUTTING THE MAIL? WELL, WHEN I CHECKED BEFORE OUR SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING, THEY WERE PRINTED AND READY TO BE DISTRIBUTED.
SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENED.
SO I'LL HAVE TO FOLLOW UP ON WHY THEY HAVEN'T BEEN SENT OUT.
I JUST LOOKED AT MY UTILITY PORTAL.
AND THERE'S NO INFORMATION ON THAT.
SO I'LL CONNECT WITH UTILITIES AGAIN, PROBABLY SHOWS HOW MUCH I OWE
THAT'S THE LARGEST GOING UP TOO.
I SAY IT JUST SORT OF FEEL LIKE, AGAIN, I'M GONNA SAY I FEEL LIKE WE'RE NOT IN THE LOOP SOMEHOW I'LL FOLLOW UP AND I'LL GET BACK TO YOU.
MAYBE IT IS HAPPENING, MAYBE IT'S NOT.
SO, BUT WE'RE IT'S HITTING LATE.
WELL, IT'LL GET OUT WHEN IT GETS OUT.
LEANNA, I ALSO WANTED, I MEAN, OFF OF WHAT YOU'RE, I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE FRUSTRATION HAVING BEEN WORKING ON THIS, NOT JUST THIS YEAR, BUT PREVIOUSLY.
AND MY QUESTION IS, DO DO WE OR DOES THE STAFF SET AN ANNUAL GOAL OF HOW MUCH WE WANT TO RAISE? AND DO WE THEN HAVE A PLAN ABOUT WHICH SOURCES WE'RE GONNA HIT UP WHEN AND HOW, AND HOW MUCH WE THINK MIGHT GET GENERATED FROM EACH OF THOSE SOURCES? UH, I CAN ANSWER THAT IN A SENSE THAT IN SOME WAYS WE'RE NOT A REGULAR CHARITY AND THAT, YEAH.
SO NO, WE HAVEN'T REALLY SET THAT UP.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THAT WE HAD, WE GIVEN THE BENEFIT OF ACCESS TO THE UTILITY BILLS, AND THAT HAS BEEN BASICALLY OUR SOLE FUNDRAISER GOING.
SO WE HAVEN'T, IF WE GO OUT FOR THEM, WE'RE COMPETING WITH LIKE THE COMMUNITY.
WE DON'T WANNA NECESSARILY CITY FUNDRAISER.
SO WE DON'T, I, I REMEMBER JENNIFER OR SOMEBODY IN ONE OF OUR MEETINGS REPORTED THAT THERE'S ALSO A, A SYSTEM FOR THE WORKERS, BUT THE CITY WORKERS TO MAKE CHARITABLE CONTRIBUTIONS AND THAT THERE'S A, A LIST OF POSSIBLE JENNIFER'S ALREADY DONE THAT AND SHE, SHE PITCHED IT FOR THE EMPLOYEES.
THAT ONE HAS A NEW ONE THOUGH.
AND THEN WE'RE WORKING WITH, UM, EMILY, UM, TO POSSIBLY PUT OUT MORE INFORMATION ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND THEN AS WELL AS THE AIRPORT FLYER.
AND COULD, I KNOW THAT TOM MOCA IN THE PAST HAS MADE PITCHES TO COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR CONTRIBUTION TO THE HOMELESS COUNT AND HAS EVEN COMMITTED IN KNOW CERTAIN INCREASES THAT EXISTED WITHIN THE CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL MEMBER BARGAINING THAT DIDN'T EXIST FOR THE REST OF CITY EMPLOYEES, ENCOURAGING THEM TO DONATE THAT TO THE MAYOR'S FUND.
SO I MEAN, THERE HAVE BEEN EFFORTS FROM LIKE CITY LEADERSHIP SIDE TO ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, CONTRIBUTION.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, HAS SOME FRUIT INTO IT.
I, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T LOOK AT REGULARLY AT WHO THE MAIN CONTRIBUTORS ARE, BUT YOU KNOW, I WILL SAY
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MY SENSE IS THE MAIN CONTRIBUTIONS ARE MOSTLY PEOPLE THAT WORK WITHIN THE SEARCH.AND SO, AGAIN, IT'S JUST A QUESTION IS, IS THIS, MY TENURE IS SO SHORT HERE, HOWEVER, LIKE ME HAS JUMPED IN JUST WHEN THE FEDS ARE TOTALLY CRIMINALLY DECIMATED ANY MONEY FOR THE HOMELESS, UH, OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND MY SENSE IS THAT ALTHOUGH WE CAN'T REPLACE THAT OUT OF OUR INDIVIDUAL POCKETS, UH, UNLESS WE COULD FIGURE OUT HOW TO NOT SEND OUR TAXES TO THE FEDS.
BUT, UM, I WONDERED BECAUSE WE ARE IN THIS SITUATION, IS THIS MAYBE A MOMENT FOR US AS THE COMMITTEE TO DO OUR OWN LITTLE BRAINSTORMING ABOUT HOW TO ATTEMPT TO GENERATE MORE FUNDS, LOCAL FUNDS, UM, AND THEN THAT CAN HELP INFORM OBVIOUSLY THE WORK THAT THE STAFF DOES.
AND A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WE DID, UM, DEVELOP SOME GRAPHICS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE CITY COUNCIL NEWSLETTERS AND THEY DID GENERATE, UM, ADDITIONAL DONATIONS.
AND WE CAN, EVERYBODY IN THE CITY, WELL, THE PEOPLE MAKING DECISIONS IN THE CITY KNOW THAT THIS FUND IS AVAILABLE, IT'S ACCESSIBLE, AND, UM, WHETHER YOU ARE A DONOR OR, UM, A WOULD BE RECIPIENT.
SO IT DOES HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY.
BUT AT THIS POINT, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO FOCUS ON YOUR SUBCOMMITTEE.
I THINK WE, AS I UNDERSTAND, AND HAVING SPOKEN TO THE FOUNDER OF THIS, THAT THIS IS AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON HOMELESS ISSUES FOR THE MAYOR.
OUR PRIMARY PURPOSE IS NOT THE FUND AT ALL.
THE FUND WAS ALMOST A SECONDARY THING TO COVER EMERGENCY USE ISSUES AT HOMELESS PROVIDERS.
I ALWAYS THOUGHT OF IT, YOU, IF THEY REFRIGERATOR BREAKS DOWN AND THEY NEED A NEW ONE, WE CAN SUPPLY THAT.
THAT'S OUR IT OUT ROLL AND OUR FUND YEAH.
JENNIFER INCLUDED A LIST OF ALL OF THOSE HISTORICAL YEAH.
ALL THE RECIPIENTS OF THE FENCE.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IT, IT HAS GONE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
SO, UM, AND AGAIN AND AGAIN, WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY FUND, WHICH IS THE CITY FUNDRAISER, YOU KNOW, FOR OTHER ISSUES.
AND WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO BE IN COMPETITION WITH THEM NECESSARILY.
AND I SAY WE WERE GIVEN THIS PRIVILEGE OF HAVING ACCESS TO UTILITY BILLS, WHICH IS BIG.
IT REALLY WAS A GREAT GIFT FOR THE, FOR THE COMMITTEE.
AND IT'S JUST THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE UTILIZE IT PROPERLY.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
ARE THERE OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? JUST A QUICK COMMENT.
I DON'T THINK WE CAN, IN ISOLATION MAKE DECISIONS ON NEW FUNDRAISING EFFORTS.
I THINK IT WOULD BE IN DIALOGUE WITH THE CITY BECAUSE THERE'S A VARIETY OF PROGRAMS AND WE DON'T WANT TO COMPETE.
AND SO YEAH, THAT'S WHY, UM, JENNIFER MENTIONED EMILY, WHO WORKS IN THE PUBLIC AFFAIRS DEPARTMENT, SO DEPARTMENT RAISE IT ATTENTION, BUT THEN I DON'T THINK WE CAN INDIVIDUALLY YEAH.
OR AS A COMMITTEE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS WITHOUT THAT GUIDANCE.
JUST FYI WE ARE COMING UP ON FIVE MINUTES LEFT FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM ON THIS ONE,
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS ON THIS? UM, ON THE MAYOR'S FUND SUBCOMMITTEE? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? THAT'S IT.
UM, POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE, SARAH? YEAH.
WE MET ON THE SECOND MONDAY OF LAST MONTH, AND WE HAD THREE MAIN ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
UM, THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM WAS LOOKING AT OUR CURRENT RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, WHICH THERE'S A COPY OF IT IN YOUR PACKET AS THERE HAS BEEN FOR SEVERAL MONTHS.
UM, THOSE WENT TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL WITH A, A COVER SHEET FROM THE CITY MANAGER.
UM, AND WHAT WE DISCUSSED RELATED TO THOSE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS IS, FIRST WE WERE VERY EXCITED THAT THE HOMELESS SERVICES DEPARTMENT MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL IN OCTOBER TO PURCHASE A NEW, UH, PORTABLE SHOWER TRUCK.
SO WE WERE THRILLED TO SEE THAT, AND WE THINK CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THAT EXPENDITURE.
AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THOSE UPDATES ABOUT THAT, ABOUT THE NEW SHOWER SERVICES THAT WILL BE OFFERED.
UM, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT, UM, HOW DO WE FOLLOW UP ON
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THESE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE SENT ELECTRONICALLY TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL? SO WE'RE ASKING THAT EVERY MEMBER OF SAC ARRANGE A MEETING WITH YOUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.IF YOU REACH OUT NOW AND ASK FOR A MEETING IN DECEMBER OR JANUARY, YOU SHOULD HAVE MET WITH 'EM BY OUR NEXT MEETING.
AND, UM, NOT VERY BEAUTIFULLY FORMATTED.
UM, LAST TIME PAM MADE A BEAUTIFULLY FORMATTED SHEET TO MEET WITH CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
SO WE HAVE THIS SHEET HERE, UM, BUT IT DOES HAVE STEP BY STEP DIRECTIONS FOR HOW TO CONTACT YOUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBER AND SET UP A MEETING, WHAT YOU SHOULD PREPARE BEFORE THE MEETING, WHAT TO TAKE WITH YOU TO THE MEETING, AND THEN A SERIES OF QUESTIONS YOU SHOULD ASK THEM.
SO FIRST YOU'RE GOING TO SHARE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THEM, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS SUCH AS, IS THERE A PLACE IN YOUR DISTRICT YOU REALLY THINK THERE'S A NEED AND A SPOT FOR THIS SHOWER TRUCK OR FOR THE ADDITIONAL GARBAGE BINS THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING FOR, FOR THOSE, UM, HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE FOR THE TOILETS THAT WE DISCUSSED.
SO WE'RE JUST GETTING SOME FEEDBACK FROM CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS OF, ARE THERE HOTSPOT IN THE DISTRICT WHERE MAYBE THESE HYGIENE, UM, FACILITIES CAN BE LOCATED? AND THEN AT OUR NEXT CASE ACT MEETING, PLEASE BRING THIS INFORMATION BACK WITH YOU AND KIND OF SHARE WITH THE GROUP WHAT DID YOUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SAY.
UM, SO THAT IS, THAT WAS OUR BIG DISCUSSION ITEM, AND THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR MEETING WITH YOUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND GETTING FEEDBACK.
THE, THE TWO OTHER THINGS WE DISCUSSED IS THERE HAVE BEEN SOME STUDIES THAT HAVE COME OUT FROM THE CITY ABOUT VACANT SPACE RECENTLY.
SO WE DISCUSSED KIND OF A VACANT COMMERCIAL SPACE STUDY THAT LIANA HAD BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION.
WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT A DISTRICT TWO, UM, AVAILABLE PARKING, UH, LOT STUDY THAT WAS DONE.
AND SO WE JUST KIND OF FLAG THOSE STUDIES AS PLACES WHERE POTENTIALLY SERVICES COULD BE OFFERED IN THE FUTURE, UM, WHEN THE DEPARTMENT IS LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO, UH, MAYBE OFFER SHELTER OR TO OFFER HYGIENE SERVICES.
SO WE IDENTIFIED THOSE AS RESOURCES.
UM, AND THEN THE OTHER ITEM ON OUR AGENDA WAS WE DISCUSSED POSSIBLY DISCUSSING IN THE FUTURE, UM, THE MAYOR'S FUND AND SHOULD WE AS HAYSTACK LOOK INTO RECOMMENDING, ALLOCATING A PORTION OF THE MAYOR'S FUND TO OFFERING MORE HYGIENE SERVICES AS HAYSTACK RECOMMENDED, SUCH AS PAYING FOR A PORTION OF, YOU KNOW, PORTABLE 24 HOUR ACCESSIBLE TOILETS, OR TO HELPING FUND PART OF THE PORTABLE SHOWERS.
SO WE HAVEN'T COME UP WITH ANY RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE JUST AGREED WE SHOULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION MOVING FORWARD.
UM, SO THAT SUMMARIZES OUR COMMITTEE.
ANY OTHER, UM, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR SARAH? I HAVE, I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
I, I REVIEWED ALL YOUR MINUTES OF, I, I ACTUALLY READ THE, THE TRANSCRIPT OF YOUR MEETING, AND I CAME UP WITH SEVERAL QUESTIONS THAT I WANT TO ASK, PARTICULARLY ABOUT THE SHOWER PROGRAM.
AND MY INTENTION IS TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE THAT PARTICULARLY WORKS ON THIS PROGRAM TO LOOK INTO THE QUESTIONS THAT, THE MULTIPLE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE, WHICH IS WHO'S GONNA BE IN CHARGE OF THE PROJECT? WHERE ARE THEY GONNA GET THE STUFF FOR IT? UM, HAS IT BEEN FUNDING? WHEN WILL IT BE STARTED? BECAUSE ONCE WE START BRINGING THIS UP TO OUR CITY COUNCIL PERSON, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE ANSWERS THAT THEY WILL ASK.
SO I I, I INTEND TO FILE THAT MOTION WHENEVER IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT THERE IS, I HAVE TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT, UM, THE AUTHORITY OF HAY SAC IS TO REVIEW EXISTING PROGRAMS AND POLICIES AND TO MAKE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR.
UM, IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT WE ARE NOT PERMITTED TO INVOLVE OURSELVES IN THE OPERATIONS AND IMPLEMENTATION OF PROGRAMS BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT STAFF IS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
UM, SO IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT IMPACTS POLICY, YES.
SO STAFF AND JUST TO SOME OF THESE, LIKE, IT'S FINE TO ME TO FORMALIZE WHAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS.
I MEAN, GETTING INTO THE NITTY GRITTY DETAILS OF HOW IT'LL BE ROLLED OUT.
AGAIN, KIND OF THAT MAY GO PAST THE AUTHORITY OF
HOWEVER, IF THERE IS A TOPIC THAT,
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YOU KNOW, THE COMMITTEE WANTED TO DEEP DIVE DEEPER INTO AND HAVE MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD SUPPORT STAFFING WITH, YOU KNOW, A SUBCOMMITTEE.HOWEVER, YOU HAVE THE OFFER, YOU KNOW, OPTION TO CREATE, UH, AD HOC GROUPS THAT DISCUSS A SPECIFIC ITEM, THAT'S ONE ITEM THAT HAS A DEFINITIVE END DATE.
YOU CAN MEET UP TO FIVE TIMES.
IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE GROUND ACTED.
YOU WOULD THEN HAVE TO BRING THAT ITEM BACK TO THE FULL COMMITTEE OR CONVERSATION.
SO IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION FURTHER, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE BOARD NOT CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE, BUT CREATE A, A AD HOC TO DISCUSSED, WELL, WHATEVER IT'S CALLED, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT HAPPEN BECAUSE I, I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THAT PROGRAM IS GOING TO OPERATE AND OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND OUR EVALUATION OF THAT PROGRAM IN ADVANCE MIGHT HELP A LOT.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TO MAKE THOSE KIND OF RECOMMENDATIONS.
DOUG, WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE TO ASK PAUL AND SAY, STAFF REPORT BACK AROUND THE OPERATIONAL PLAN ON HOW TO USE IT? UM, I, I THINK MANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS COULD BE ANSWERED, UM, WITH THAT.
I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE PREPARED TO DO THAT NOW OR IN THE FUTURE.
WELL, YOU CAN INCLUDE IT IN A STAFF UPDATE, AND I'M JUST GONNA SAY WE'LL GET TO IT DEEPER INTO ITEMS, BUT THERE ARE SOME EXISTENTIAL CHALLENGES AND CRISISES FACING US AT THE MOMENT.
LIKE, NOT TO SAY THAT LIKE THIS IS IMPORTANT WHATSOEVER.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WOULD LEAD TO PEOPLE LOSING THEIR HOUSING ASSISTANCE AND BEING POTENTIALLY DISPLACED BACK INTO HOMELESSNESS AT THE MOMENT.
THOSE ARE LIKE OUR TOP PRIORITY AT THE MOMENT.
UM, SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE IF WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DIVE DEEPER INTO THIS, THAT HE GIVE US A COUPLE MONTHS TO KIND OF WRAP UP A COUPLE MAJOR THINGS THAT ARE GOING AT THE MOMENT.
WHAT, COULD I GIVE YOU A COPY OF MY QUESTIONS AT LEAST? SURE.
SO YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THEM.
BECAUSE I, I PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO THIS AND THERE'S STILL MORE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVEN'T WRITTEN DOWN.
THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO DISCUSS IT ABOUT THE COMMITTEE.
WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE PAT, FOR YOU TO SHARE THAT? YEAH, WE CAN A BUNCH OF COPIES.
SO WE HAVE GONE OVER TIME ON THIS ITEM.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR OUR POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE? UM, THE CC REPORT? UM, WELL, I THINK I PRETTY MUCH THINK YOU'RE GOING TO COVER IT TODAY.
IT'S BASICALLY AT THE COC THEY'RE MOSTLY TALKING ABOUT THE FEDERAL GRANT THAT'S COMING UP.
WE'RE HAVING A MEETING, UM, ON THE 18TH SOMETIME THIS WEEK.
WELL, ANYWAY, SO WE'VE GOT ANOTHER MEETING COMING UP TO, UH, I GUESS GIVE OUR FINAL APPROVAL OF THEIR PLANS.
AND, UH, IT'S MOSTLY ABOUT THE FEDERAL FUNDING AND HOW THEY'VE SHIFTED IT FROM THE FOCUS BEING ON PERMANENT HOUSING TO TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.
AND THAT'S WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WANTS TO SEE.
AND ALSO THEY HAVE SOME VERY UNIQUE, UH, REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT GRANT, SUCH AS YOU CANNOT SPONSOR SPECIFIC GENDER IDEOLOGY, RACIAL CONFERENCES, L LT, TB, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE.
L-G-B-T-Q, ALL THOSE LETTERS ARE L THEY'RE MORE WORRIED ABOUT THE T PIECE.
LIKE THEY DO NOT WANT TO RECOGNIZE TRANSGENDER INDIVIDUALS.
YOU NEED TO HAVE SINGLE SEX SLEEPING SPACES FOR THE SAFETY OF WOMEN.
UM, THAT, AND THEY'VE CHANGED QUESTIONS.
IT'S NO LONGER THE QUESTION OF HOW DO YOU IDENTIFY YOUR GENDER? IT'S NOW WHAT SEX WERE YOU ASSIGNED AT BIRTH? SO THEY'RE CHANGING A LOT OF THINGS AROUND THAT WE CAN DO DIVE AND STAFF REPORT WILL GO A LITTLE DEEPER INTO YEAH.
BUT THEY'RE WORKING ON IT AND THEY'RE
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ABOUT READY TO, UH, SUBMIT THAT FOR FUNDING, BUT THE FUNDING WILL BE REDUCED CONSIDERABLY.AND THEY TALKED ABOUT THE, UH, HOW THEY'RE GOING TO SUPPLEMENT THAT FUNDING.
SOME OF IT WOULD BE WITH STATE FUNDING.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GONNA LOSE SOME PROBABLY, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATUS IS QUITE YET BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE ONE MORE MEETING BEFORE THAT'S SUBMITTED.
THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT THEY'RE FOCUSED ON, RIGHT? NOW'S GETTING THAT FEDERAL FUNDING SET UP.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR PAT? ANOTHER QUESTION, BUT THE COMMENT THAT OUR CITY LEADERSHIP HAS BEEN, IN MY OPINION, STRONG AND IMAGINATIVE AND CREATIVE IN TAKING ON THIS RIGHT WING ANTI-HUMAN SET OF POLICIES AROUND IMMIGRATION AND IMMIGRANT RIGHTS.
AND MY GOAL IS THAT THEY WILL DO SIMILAR THINGS AROUND THIS ATTACK AGAINST A HELL OF A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORS WHO ARE HOMELESS.
UM, I MEAN, I, IT WAS A REPORT RECENTLY WHERE THE LAST I THINK POINT OF SERVICE, THE CENSUS SHOWED THAT THERE WAS A, A REAL INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF BLACK NEIGHBORS WHO WERE HOMELESS.
AND SO IT SEEMS TO ME OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A CITY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BE TRUE TO WHAT THE NEEDS ARE HERE IN THE CITY.
UM, MY QUESTION IS, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN RAISE WITH THE ELECTED OFFICIALS? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT AVENUES FOR THE STAFF TO ATTEMPT TO COME UP WITH CREATIVE WAYS TO, TO WORK THIS SO THAT WE DON'T ALLOW THESE KINDS OF HORRIBLE POLICIES TO ULTIMATELY ATTACK OUR NEIGHBORS? OKAY, DOUG, SO WE CAN DO TWO THINGS.
YOU'VE SPOKEN TO ALERT CITY STAFF AND THAT'S ONE THING.
AND THE SECOND THING IS WE CAN MAKE, MAKE ANNUAL RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO IF WE WANT THIS TO BE IN A PROPOSAL FOR NEXT YEAR, THAT COULD BE A, A RECOMMENDATION.
THOSE ARE THE TWO, TWO THINGS, UH, THE WAY WE CAN TAKE ACTION.
YOU CAN ALSO INDIVIDUALLY SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER THAT YOU REPRESENT TO SAY, HEY, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THIS ITEM RELATED TO HOMELESSNESS.
WHEN YOU MEET, I WANNA MAKE SURE THE CITY IS TAKING A STRONG STANCE MM-HMM
AND ACTUALLY, UM, AS WE END 2025, WE WILL BE ON, UM, ON TASK TO TRY TO DO THE 2025 ASAP ANNUAL REPORT, WHICH WILL ALSO INCLUDE OR CAN INCLUDE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO IF THE TIMING IS GOOD, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WOULD LIKE TO JOIN, UM, OUR SUBCOMMITTEE, UM, UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR PAT? OKAY.
JUNCTURE, ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WE SHOULD SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? PERFECT.
UM, UH, CIRCLING BACK TO THE, UH, MAYOR'S FUND, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO THE ALLOCATION OF FUNDS, I SEE, UH, LIKE THE LIST OF REQUIREMENTS IN THIS DOCUMENTATION THAT WILL BE REVIEWED LATER, I THINK, UH, RELATIVE TO THE, UH, SOLICITATION OF FUNDS FROM THAT GROUP.
UM, I WAS JUST WONDERING, LIKE WHAT IS THE PROCESS BY WHICH THESE ITEMS ARE APPROVED? LIKE I KNOW THAT THE COMMITTEE, IT SEEMS LIKE Y'ALL REVIEW THE APPLICATIONS AND THE, UH, YOU KNOW, LINE OF ITEMIZED EXPENSES AND SO FORTH AND YOU OUGHT THE INVOICES, BUT IS IT LIKE STILL JUST YOUR RECOMMENDATION GOING TO THE MAYOR STAFF MORE INVOLVED? UH, JUST CURIOUS.
GETTING OVERVIEW OF THAT STAFF AFTER THE MEETING CAN GIVE YOU A OVERVIEW OF THE PROCESS AND APPROVAL MECHANISMS, UM, WITHOUT A COMMENT THAT IS MEANT TO BE COMMENT.
BUT WE WILL FOLLOW UP AFTERWARDS AROUND, IF YOU'RE GONNA LEAVE, PLEASE JUST PROVIDE YOUR CONTACT AND WE CAN REACH OUT TO YOU AND WALK YOU THROUGH THE PROCESS.
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MANY QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL TRY TO MAKE THEM NOT SO MANY BECAUSE I ONLY HAVE TWO MANY, BUT I DO OUTREACH IN DOWNTOWN LONG.SO I, IT'S CONCERNING TO ME, I DON'T KNOW REALLY IF YOU'RE ON THE BOARD OR IF YOU HAVE A SAY SO OR YOU'RE JUST ATTENDING THE MEETING.
UM, BUT HOW IS THAT WORKING WITH FUNDS BEING REDUCED ON THIS ALREADY, MINIMAL FUND BEING DIVIDED, AND THEN THE FACT THAT THEY ARE NOW DECIDING THEY DON'T WANT IT TO BE PERMANENT HOUSING, THEY WANT IT TO BE TRANSITIONAL.
SO WILL THEY BE BUILDING MORE SPACES? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE, THE HOUSING LIST IS YEARS UPON YEARS LONG.
SO IF WE'RE ALREADY TAKING AWAY FUNDING, NOT PROVIDING PEOPLE THAT HAVE SEVERE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES WITH THAT PERMANENT SUPPORT AND YOU ONLY GOT, YOU GUYS ONLY WANT TO BE TRANSITIONAL, ARE YOU GUYS IN THE WORKS OF HOW THAT IS GOING TO WORK DOWN THE LINE? OR EVEN WHEN YOU GUYS START PUTTING, LIKE, IMPLEMENTING THAT PLAN OR THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE DECIDED AND FINGERS CROSSED THEY HOPE IT WORKS.
IF YOU ARE NOT STAYING AFTER FOR THE ENTIRE MEETING, CAN YOU JUST GIVE US YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION AND IF YOU ARE, WE'LL COVER THAT A FAIR AMOUNT OVER THE STAFF REPORT ANNUAL WHAT REPORT? THE STAFF REPORT.
WAS THAT, I MEAN, IT'S NOT EVEN ANSWER THEN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEE NONE.
THE, THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS A RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE UPDATES FROM THE MAYOR'S FUND AND POLICY SUBCOMMITTEES AND FROM OUR CONTINUUM OF CARE REPRESENTATIVE.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ITEM NUMBER THREE, ACTUALLY ON THAT BOARD.
WE'LL COME AND GET YOU WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH THE THANK YOU PAM.
ITEM NUMBER THREE IS TO THE A RECOMMENDATION TO REVIEW AND VOTE ON THE MAYORS FUND SUBCOMMITTEE GRANT APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY LONG BEACH COMMUNITY TABLE FOR FUNDING AND THE AMOUNT OF 31,507 AND 46 CENTS.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? SECOND, JULIE? OH, I, SORRY.
THIS IS POSSIBLE FOR ME TO SAY.
SO YEAH, WE'LL GET YEAH, WE'LL, OH, OKAY.
YES, WE DID RECEIVE A REQUEST FOR FUNDING FROM THE, UH, AND WE THERE'S A HANDOUT.
EVERYBODY HAD, AND, UM, I HAD QUITE A DISCUSSION ABOUT, TO BE VERY HONEST.
AND, UH, WE FELT THAT THE MAJOR PROBLEM, AND THERE WAS ANOTHER PIECE OF PAPER IN YOUR PACKAGE THERE OF THE TWO PRIMARY REASONS WHY WE DIDN'T TAKE ACTION.
WE ARE SET UP, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE START OF THIS ORGANIZATION, THIS WAS, AND WE'VE HAD SOME REVIEWS SINCE THEN, BUT WE DID SET UP FOR THE SCRIPT GUIDELINES AS TO WHAT WE COULD FIND OR WHAT WE DON'T FIND.
AND, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS IS THAT WE DO NOT FUND ONGOING OPERATIONAL EXPENSES.
IT WAS NEVER THE INTENT OF THIS FUND TO REPLACE ANYTHING THAT PAUL'S DEPARTMENT IS DOING WITH GRANTS TO CARRY ON ORGANIZATIONS AND CONTINUE FOR LONG TERM CONTINUING FUNDING.
THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT PROCESS.
SO WE DO ONE TIME EMERGENCY TYPE FUNDING TO KEEP ORGANIZATIONS GOING.
THE SECOND PART, SUSTAINABILITY.
AND THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DON'T WANT TO GO INTO A SITUATION WHERE WE, WHERE THERE'S NO FOLLOW UP FUNDING AVAILABLE.
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WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THIS MONEY RUNS OUT? IS THE MONEY GOING TO BE THERE TO CONTINUE IT ON OR THEY ONE TIME, YOU KNOW, THING THAT IS NOT GOING TO SUCCESSFULLY KEEP THE OFF OF THE ORGANIZATION GOING.AND I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF IT THAT WE WILL AT THE FISCAL PART OF THESE AND MAKE SURE THERE IS.
SO WITH THE, OUR MEETING WE DID, WE CAME UP WITH, LOOKED AT THOSE TWO.
AND THE THIRD THAT WE DID NOT NOT PUT ON HERE IS THAT WE ARE RESTRICTED TO HOMELESS.
AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE'RE STAYING WITH, THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE.
ORGANIZATIONS ARE PRIMARILY FOR HOMELESS.
AND I KNOW WITH FEEDING PROGRAMS IS DIFFICULT SOMETIMES TO SEPARATE THOSE TWO THINGS BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT EVEN SURE WHO'S COMING, GETTING THE FOOD.
SO YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FEEDING A HOMELESS PERSON OR NOT.
SO WE ALWAYS, I THINK, CUT A LITTLE BIT OF SLACK IN THAT AREA, BUT, UH, IT HAS TO BE THE, THE, THE PRIMARY RECIPIENTS OF THE SERVICES ARE HOMELESS AND WE DIDN'T SEE THAT.
SO THAT IS WHY WE DID NOT TAKE ACTION ON THIS APPLICATION AND PASSED IT ON TO THE COMMITTEE JUST TO BRING YOU MORE FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
AND DO MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MS. DOUG? YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE A VERY WORTHY PROGRAM.
I TOO WONDERED ABOUT THE SPECIFICITY FOR HOMELESSNESS.
AND UM, YOU KNOW, IF IT HAD BEEN WRITTEN IN A WAY WHERE THEY WERE GOING TO DO SOME SPECIFIC PROGRAMS TARGETING
BUT I, I THINK WE COULD, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT THE POPULATION POPULATION IS THAT'S BEING SUPPORTED, I DUNNO IF IT'S THE INTENT OF MAYORS.
GOOD, GOOD ORGANIZATION DOING GOOD WORK.
BUT THEN AGAIN, WE CAN'T FUND EVERYBODY IN, WE WORK IN THIS SPECIFIC MISSION OF, OF DOING HOMELESS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YES, I KNOW IN THE PAST HAS PEOPLE HAVE SHOWED UP WITH THE PROPOSAL, WE'VE ALLOWED THEM TO SPEAK ABOUT THE PROGRAM.
KRISTEN, DID YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? OH, YEAH.
UM, SINCE WE MET LAST, I SENT IN A VERY SPECIFIC, UM, PROGRAM THAT IS ALMOST ENTIRELY OFFICE.
UM, I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THIS NUMBER COMES FROM AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT FOR ME, BUT WE, WE ORIGINALLY ASKED, THAT'S PART OF YOUR, THAT IS PART, I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL GRANT, BUT, UM, THAT'S, WE ORIGINALLY ASKED FOUR $25,000 AND IMMEDIATELY AFTER OUR LAST MEETING, I MADE IT ABOUT THE PARKS PROGRAM, WHICH IS ALMOST ENTIRELY NORMAL.
UM, AND WE FEED SOMEWHERE BETWEEN NINE AND 11,000 PEOPLE A MONTH, YOU KNOW, WELL NOT UNIQUELY, BUT LIKE OVER THE COURSE OF THE MONTH IT'S NINE, SO MULTIPLE TIMES.
BUT, UM, WE ALSO GIVE THEM CLOTHING.
WE ALSO GIVE THEM HIKING PRODUCTS.
WE ALSO GIVE THEM A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT HELP THEM SURVIVE BASICALLY BASIC NEEDS.
UM, SO WHAT I WROTE IN MY FOLLOW UP WAS THAT WE WOULD LIKE SUPPORT FOR THAT PROGRAM.
AT THAT TIME WE WERE IN THE SERIOUS EMERGENCY 'CAUSE FUNDING WAS NOT COMING FROM, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FUNDING WAS NOT COMING FROM GRANTS.
UM, AND THE OTHER THING I MENTIONED WAS THAT WE DO HAVE A BROKEN, UM, FORKLIFT AND WE NEED TO REPLACE IT.
AND THAT ON AVERAGE CAN GO FROM ANYWHERE BETWEEN 8,000.
LITERALLY THERE'S SOME OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND, BUT I FIGURED I COULD PROBABLY GET ONE FOR ABOUT 10,000.
SO, UM, I'M PRETTY GOOD AT BEING, UH, RESOURCEFUL IF I TOO.
SO ANYWAY, BETWEEN THOSE TWO, UM, THE PARK PROGRAM AND THE, AND THE, UM, FORKLIFT, I FELT LIKE THAT MORE THAN LESS BY $25,000.
BUT THIS 31 0 5, 0 7 46, I DIDN'T EVEN SEE THIS GRANT BEFORE SHE SUBMITTED IT.
AND I WOULD NOT HAVE DONE IT THIS WAY MYSELF PERSONALLY.
BUT, UM, ANYWAY, THAT'S REALLY WHAT OUR FOCUS IS.
AND WE DO HAVE A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT
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ARE LIVING ON A REGULAR BASIS.SO A VERY, OH, LIKE WE'RE SOMEWHERE AROUND 6,000 PEOPLE A WEEK RIGHT NOW.
I WOULD SAY TWO THIRDS OF THEM ARE, WELL MAYBE NOT THAT, MAYBE THEY HAVE, BUT THAT'S STILL 3000 PEOPLE A WEEK ALMOST.
SO, UM, I FEEL LIKE IT'S A JUSTIFIABLE REQUEST, I WOULD SAY.
SO, SO WHERE IS THAT KIND OF FOLLOW UP? UM, AMENDED PROPOSAL? SO YOU SAID YOU SENT IT IN? YEAH, I WROTE IT HERE.
UM, IT'S, IT WAS SENT IN THE PACKET.
I DON'T THINK I, I MIGHT HAVE NOT PRINTED IT, BUT IT WAS SENT IN THE PACKET.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON IS THAT AMENDED PROPOSAL? YES.
SHE JUST SENT AN EMAIL TO JENNIFER AND MYSELF AND PAUL AND IT WAS JUST AN EMAIL TO SAY THE FORKLIFT AND THE PARKS PROGRAM.
BUT IT WASN'T, IF THERE WASN'T A BUDGET WITH IT, THERE WASN'T, I MEAN, IT'S NOT, IT WASN'T PART OF, PART OF THE ORIGINAL, IT WASN'T PART OF THIS REALLY BEEN INCLUDED TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
BUT, UM, ANY ORIGINAL, DID YOU HAVE THE QUESTION? I'M SAYING WHAT WE REVIEWED THAT PIECE, RIGHT.
SO WHEN WE INITIALLY REVIEWED IN THE SUBCOMMITTEE THE, THERE WAS AN ATTACHED ADDENDUM, SORRY, IT GOT MIS BUT IT'S THE PACKET OUT THAT HAD SOME ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATIONS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE DIFFICULT PART IS IF WE DON'T, USUALLY SHE HAD A DIFFERENT PROPOSAL FORM, RIGHT? WE, WE DON'T USUALLY ALLOW AMENDMENTS AFTER A COMMITTEE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE CERTAINLY OPEN TO, UH, EVALUATING A, A NEW PROPOSAL, BUT IT WASN'T EVER DISCUSSED IN THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING.
WELL, I DID TALK ABOUT THIS SAID AT THE LAST MEETING AND SECOND, THEN WE'LL JUST FOCUS ON PARKS BECAUSE THAT'S MOSTLY OUR HOMELESS PROGRAM.
SO, UM, AND THEN THE FORKLIFT BROKE LIKE THE NEXT DAY.
AND THEN, UM, I WOULD SAY THERE IS NOTHING STOPPING YOU FROM GIVING ANOTHER APPLICATION.
THEY, THEY, THAT WOULD GIVE US COMFORT IN THE AREAS WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT HERE, THE USE OF FUNDS THAT IT IS PRIMARILY HOMELESS AND SUSTAINABILITY.
SO IF WE GET, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GET AN APPLICATION TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES AND ADDRESS THE HOMELESS ISSUE.
IN OTHER WORDS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW.
SO THE APPLICATION HAS TO GIVE US COMFORT IN THOSE AREAS.
SO MY ONLY, I MEAN THAT GROUP, I MENTIONED THIS AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT UH, THIS WAS ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED IN AUGUST AND IT'S DECEMBER.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN IS I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY, BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, GETTING A FORKLIFT ON TIME AND BEING ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, UM, MEET THE NEEDS OF PEOPLE.
WHEN WE WERE, AT THAT POINT IN AUGUST, WE WERE REALLY STRUCTURED BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF GRANTS THAT WERE COMING AT THAT TIME.
NOW WE'VE GOTTEN SEVERAL SETS AND SO WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE RIGHT NOW, BUT, AND PLUS GETTING TUESDAY AND ONE BEACH KIDS AND MUCH OTHER STUFF.
SO WE WE'RE IN A MUCH BETTER POSITION AT THIS POINT, BUT WE HAVE SURVIVED FOR SEVEN AND A HALF YEARS ON, BUT NOT, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION, DOUG? ME? YES.
SO I'M LOSING A LITTLE BIT OF TRACK.
SO THE SUBCOMMITTEE IS CURRENTLY NOT RECOMMENDING THIS.
IS THAT THE CURRENT STATE OF THIS AS IT CURRENTLY PROPOSED? OR IS THE SUBCOMMITTEE WANTING TO DEFER TO THE LARGE COMMITTEE FOR A DECISION? I THINK WE MORE PASSED IT ON, ON THE CONCEPT OF INFORMATION THAT WE GOT THIS LARGE GRANT.
AND WHY WE'RE NOT TAKING ACTION ON IT.
SO YOU'RE NOT TAKING ACTION AT THE CURRENT TIME? WE, WE, WE DID NOT MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AT THIS TIME OR DIS OKAY.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S BEEN SOME MODIFICATIONS AND THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT, AND I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT, AND I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, I MEAN MAYBE THERE IS HISTORY
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TO SAY OTHERWISE, BUT IT WOULD SEEM THAT A MAYOR'S FUND FOR THE HOMELESS THAT SUPPORTS 50% OF HOMELESS PEOPLE IN ITS USAGE, I'M NOT SURE THAT SATISFIES A MAYOR'S FUND FOR, UM, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT FOR THE PUBLIC, IT'S FOR, IT'S FOR WHAT HAS BEEN THE HISTORY AND WHAT DO WE THINK.SO TO ME IT SOUNDS LIKE IT NEEDS TO GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE TO BE CONTINUE, CONTINUE TO BE WORKED ON.
SO THE MOTION ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW IS JUST TO REVIEW, UM, THIS APPLICATION.
SO, UM, JENNIFER, UH, DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I'M SORRY, I, I'M, I'M INSTRUCTED TO MOVE ON WITH THIS AGENDA JUST 'CAUSE WE HAVE AN ELECTION AT THE END THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO FOR MONTHS NOW THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO.
UM, ANY, ANY OTHER MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO TO THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC? CAN I REITERATE THAT IT IS FOR THE PARKS PROGRAM, WHICH IS WAY MORE THAN 50%? UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT REALLY THE ISSUE.
JENNIFER, YOU WANNA DO THE PUBLIC COMMENT? YES.
ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? NATALIE, GO AHEAD.
UM, MY COMMENT IS, IS I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION FOR THE MAYOR'S FUND THAT THE GRANTS ARE USUALLY UP TO $10,000 AND THIS SEEMS TO BE AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF MONEY OVER THAT.
I CAN'T, I'M NOT VERY GOOD AT THE MATH IN TERMS OF THE PERCENTAGE THAT'S LEFT IN THAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE MAYOR'S FUND AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER.
SO THAT GIVES ME PAUSE FOR CONCERN AND THAT I DO THINK THE ORGANIZATION SHOULD RESUBMIT AN ACCURATE APPLICATION, BUT TAKING IN, MAYBE THEY SHOULD SPLIT UP THE TWO AMOUNTS.
THE ONE THAT'S THE MOST DESIRED IS IT SOUNDS LIKE THE FORKLIFT IS WHAT I WOULD CALL AN EMERGENCY ISSUE THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED FIRST.
I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE, FOR THE PARKS THING IS ALL ABOUT, BUT THAT'S WHAT I WOULD RE THAT IS MY COMMENT ON THIS APPLICATION, THAT IT IS AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN, WE DID DO SOMETHING FOR COAI BELIEVE MANY YEARS AGO FOR REFRIGERATOR AND THAT WAS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION.
UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE HAVE BEEN ANY OTHERS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THAT LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY.
THAT GOES BACK TO THE COMMITTEE AND QUICKLY MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A PROCESS OF MOVING IT THROUGH, HAVING TO WAIT ANOTHER TWO MONTHS.
WE ALMOST SPENT ALMOST A YEAR, I GUESS, SINCE THE INITIAL APPLICATION WAS MADE.
YEAH, MY QUESTION WOULD BE, IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD SPEED UP THE PROCESS TO HELP THEM IMMEDIATELY OR NOT IMMEDIATELY, BUT FASTER THAN AT NORTHLAND TAKES THE SUBJECT SUBCOMMITTEE DID NOT RECEIVE THIS UNTIL LAST MONTH.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN AUGUST AND EPTEMBER.
IF THEY DO RESUBMIT AN APPLICATION, THE NEXT SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING IS THE 12TH OF JANUARY AND FOLLOWING THAT FEBRUARY WOULD BE OUR NEXT HAYSTACK MEETING.
IT WOULD BE AVAILABLE, CORRECT.
A QUESTION, CAN THINGS BE DONE OFF SITE? SO FOR INSTANCE, THE FORKLIFT, WHICH SEEMS PRETTY DISCREET, WHICH SEEMS TO BE AN EMERGENCY, COULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD WORK ON IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO AND THEN WE COULD VOTE ONLINE? OR DOES IT HAVE TO COME BACK TO A MEETING? IT HAS TO BE AN OPEN MEETING.
AND THE NEXT OPEN MEETING, I'M SORRY, I JUST, THE FIRST WEDNESDAY IN FEBRUARY THE 12TH OF JANUARY? NO, IT'S THE FIRST WEDNESDAY.
SO EITHER WAY EVEN THE JANUARY 12TH WOULD BE THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING.
AND THEN FEBRUARY WOULD BE THE FULL EC MEETING.
SO EVEN THOUGH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
UM, I SEE NO OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT HAVE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.
SO THERE, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO, UM, THE MOTION WAS TO THE RECOMMENDATION TO REVIEW AND VOTE ON THE MAYORS FUND AND SUBCOMMITTEE APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED BY THE LONG BEACH COMMUNITY TEAM FOR A FUNDING AND THE AMOUNT OF $31,507 46 CENTS.
DO WE WANT TO MAKE VOTING ON VOTING AND AMEND? WE'RE, WHAT WAS THE MOTION? ACTUALLY, THERE'S NO MOTION.
REALLY? YEAH, THERE IS A MOTION TO DISCUSS SOMEBODY MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION.
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I'M SORRY.I MOVE THAT WE, UH, BASED ON THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE HAD, THAT WE ASK THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THIS AND THAT WE HOPE THAT COMMUNITY TABLE, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS FRUSTRATING AS HELL, WILL WORK WITH US.
WE'LL DOUBLE ARE WE, ARE WE ASKING THEM TO RESUBMIT AN APPLICATION BASED ON THE FORKLIFT? WELL, LEANNE IS MAKING A MOTION.
I'M MAY IT MORE GENERAL, JENNIFER.
SO WE DON'T, WE WANNA, IT'S CLEAR FROM DISCUSSION THAT THERE'S DIFFERENT POSSIBLE, AND WE ARE ALL, AS A SUBCOMMITTEE, WE'RE ALWAYS GONNA REVIEW APPLICATIONS.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED A DIRECTIVE TO DO THAT.
SO IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE ADDRESSING THEM TO WITH THE MOTION, I I'M NOT SURE IF YOUR MOTION TO, WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THAT TO CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION BASED ON THIS APPLICATION, BUT IF WE'RE NOT MOVING FORWARD, I, OKAY, I'M GONNA, I WITHDRAW ANYWAY.
I MOVE THAT WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
ANYBODY WANTS TO SECOND WELL, I, I SUPPORT THAT, BUT DON'T WE HAVE TO SAY, UH, TO COME TO AGREEMENT THAT WE'VE RECEIVED THIS PRESENTATION OR DO WE NOT NEED TO DO THAT? IT WAS JUST A PRESENTATION.
PRESENTATION WE NEED TO CLOSE WITH SOME SORT OF VOTE.
IT CAN, WE'VE RECEIVED, WE'VE RECEIVED THE REPORT RECEIVED AND FILE OR RECEIVING AND FILING WITHOUT ANY ACTION.
YOU CAN MAKE THAT ALSO, CAN WE ADJUST THE, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT.
THAT'S, BUT WE DON'T WANT TALK.
SO THERE'S A MOTION, THERE'S A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE DISCUSSION.
I'LL SECOND THAT SUBMITTED BY THE LONG BEACH COMMUNITY TABLE.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE APPLICATION, SAY AYE.
CAN SOMEBODY GO GET PAM? SHE'S BEEN OUT THERE FOREVER.
I MIGHT AS WELL BECAUSE I HAVE TO LEAVE.
SO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A DISCUSSION ON THE CITY OWNED SHELTER BEDS AND TEMPORARY SHELTER REPORT HEALTH.
ALL RIGHT, LET ME START WITH, UH, SORRY, MY VOICE IS A LITTLE
UM, BUT WE'LL GET THROUGH THIS.
UM, I HAVE TO PAUSE IN MINUTE, GIMME A SECOND.
UM, SO WE WANTED TO BRING FORWARD TO YOU BASED UPON RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WENT TO CITY COUNCIL AS WELL AS, UH, THERE WAS SOME MEDIA WHERE THERE WAS REQUESTS ON LOOKING AT SHELTER, WHERE WE'RE AT.
SO IT'S COME UP IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT REPORTS.
WE WANTED TO WALK THROUGH AND KIND OF HIGHLIGHT A FEW THINGS AND MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMITTEE IS FULLY AWARE OF WHERE WE'RE AT ON SHELTER AND SOME OF THE CHANGES OVER THE PAST FIVE OR THREE YEARS.
UH, SO THAT'S THE IMPETUS OF THIS REPORT.
UM, KIND OF JUST TO START, WE WANTED TO GROUND A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS.
AS WE LOOK AT OUR INTERIM HOUSING SHELTER PORTFOLIO, THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS THAT, UH, OUR DEFINITIONALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOK AT.
SO WHAT WE'VE PROVIDED IN SEVERAL REPORTS IS BASED ON OUR ANNUAL, UH, REQUIREMENT FROM HUD TO CONDUCT A HOUSING INVENTORY COUNT.
UM, SO, OH, I DUNNO IF YOU HAVE THIS WRONG.
UH, SO WITHIN, LET'S TAKE A STEP BACK.
THERE ARE A COUPLE DIFFERENT TYPES OF INTERIM HOUSING GET INTO NEXT, UH, THAT FALL UNDER OUR DEFINITION OF INTERIM HOUSING.
SO WE'LL KIND OF DEFINE WHAT THOSE ARE AND SOME OF THE DIFFERENTIATION.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF VARIANCE THAT EXIST WITHIN THESE CATEGORIES, BUT THESE ARE OUR HIGH LEVEL BUCKETS THAT WE DEFINE.
UH, THREE OF THESE ARE SPECIFICALLY
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IDENTIFIED WITHIN WHAT WE REPORT TO HUD.UM, SO THE FIRST ONE BE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.
THIS IS WHERE PARTICIPANTS HAVE A MONTH TO MONTH OCCUPANCY AGREEMENT AND THEY CAN STAY FOR UP TO 24 MONTHS.
THERE ARE SOME TRANSITIONAL HOUSING PROGRAMS, I EXTEND THAT A LITTLE FURTHER, BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE TYPICAL.
SO IT'S NOT SOMEWHERE THAT SOMEBODY CAN STAY PERMANENTLY.
IT IS A MONTH TO MONTH WITH A DEFINITIVE INTAKE.
UH, IT MIGHT BE A
IT MAY BE AN INDIVIDUAL ROOM, IT CAN LOOK DIFFERENT.
THE REAL DIFFERENTIATION IS, UH, THAT AGREEMENT WITH THE
UH, WE'VE KIND OF DEFINED THEM A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
UM, THEY HAVE CONGREGATE SHELTER PROGRAMS. THESE ARE PROGRAMS WHERE THERE ARE MULTIPLE BEDS WITHIN AN OPEN SPACE.
UH, THESE ARE HISTORICALLY WHAT YOU THINK OF PROBABLY WHEN YOU THINK OF SHELTER MOST OFTEN.
UH, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR NON CONGREGATE SHELTERS.
THESE ARE SHELTERS WITH PRIVATE SLEEPING AREAS AND HANDLES.
SO THERE'S NOT SHARED FACILITIES.
UH, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN INCREASED PRIVACY TO THOSE SITES.
AND THEN LASTLY, THIS IS PRETTY RARE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ONE OR TWO.
UM, AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT REALLY NOT IS FUNDED IN QUITE SOME TIME.
IT'S CALLED THE SAFE HAVEN PROGRAM.
THESE ARE LOW BARRIER SHELTERS WITH INCREASED PRIVACY FOR PERSONS WITH SIGNIFICANT BEHAVIORAL HEALTH NEEDS WITH UNDER 25 PARTICIPANTS.
IT'S KIND OF AN INUNDATED, LIKE WE HAVE A COUPLE, BUT LIKE IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE TEND TO USE.
AND THERE'S A FEW OTHER THINGS THAT LOOKS SIMILAR TO A SAFE HAVEN BUT JUST AREN'T USING THAT NAME.
UM, AGAIN, AS WE LOOK AT OUR DEFINITIONS WITHIN WHAT WE REPORT TO HUD, THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THAT HUD LOOKS AT.
WE HAVE OUR YEAR ROUND SHELTER BEDS.
SO THESE ARE BEDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S A SITE THAT PERMANENTLY WILL FOREVER BE THERE.
THERE ARE CASES WHERE WE'VE LEASED A MOTEL OR A DIFFERENT SPACE AT A LARGER WAREHOUSE WHERE THAT LEASE HAS BEEN ONLY FOR A YEAR, A YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS.
THAT WOULD STILL FALL UNDER YEAR ROUND SHELTER.
UM, SO THAT MEANS THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE DEFINE THAT.
UM, SEASONAL BETS, THOSE ARE A DEFINITIVE PERIOD WITHIN THE YEAR.
YOU CAN THINK OF OUR WINTER SHELTER PROGRAM AND OPEN SOMEWHERE NOVEMBER DECEMBER ENDS IN MARCH, RIGHT? UH, SO THERE'S A SET NUMBER OF BEDS, THEY'RE AVAILABLE THROUGHOUT THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
AND THEN THERE'S A CATEGORY OF FLEX PITS.
THESE ARE BEDS THAT CAN BE EXPANDED OR OPEN UP FOR SPECIFIC NEEDS.
SOME EXAMPLES WOULD BE OUR IMPLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER THAT'S GONNA BE RAINING HEAVILY OR IT'S GONNA, YOU KNOW, GONNA BE EXTREMELY COLD LAST YEAR WHEN THE FIRE HAPPENED THAT WERE A NUMBER OF MOTEL VOUCHERS THAT WERE INCREASED FOR, UH, PEOPLE THAT WERE FLEEING OUT OF THE FIRE AREA THAT WERE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
UM, SO THOSE WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF A FLEX BED.
THEY'RE AVAILABLE FOR A SHORT PERIOD FOR A SPECIFIC NEED, BUT NOT A DEFINED ATION.
ALRIGHT, SO WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR HOUSING INVENTORY COUNT OVER THE, YOU KNOW, OVER THE PAST, UH, I GUESS THAT'S SEVEN YEARS, EIGHT YEARS, UM, THERE IS, YOU KNOW, QUITE A BIT OF CHANGE.
UM, WE CAN LOOK AT THIS AND THERE ARE CHANGES OVER THE TIME, UP AND DOWN.
SO THAT IS ONE THING THAT WE WILL HIGHLIGHT AND DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT.
UH, SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE CHOSEN TO TAKE, WHEN WE REPORT TO THE HOUSING, UH, TO HUD AROUND OUR HOUSING INVENTORY COUNT, IT'S THE SAME TIME WE DO OUR POINT IN TIME COUNT.
SO WE DO THIS AT THE END OF JANUARY EVERY YEAR.
UH, SO THESE ARE THE BEDS THAT WE IDENTIFIED TOO, AND WE'LL DISCUSS SOME CHANGES AND SOME CAVEATS.
UH, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, THERE HAS BEEN SOME FLUCTUATION IN YEAR ROUND BEDS.
WE SAW SOME INCREASE, WE'VE SEEN SOME REDUCTION.
UH, WE HAVE SOME BEDS COMING ONLINE.
I DID HIGHLIGHT THAT IN THE LAST COLUMN THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE HICK, UH, THAT WE'LL GET INTO IN A MINUTE.
UH, SEASONAL BEDS HAVE KIND OF TEMPORARY AND SEASONAL BEDS KIND OF FLUCTUATED A LITTLE BIT.
UH, LAST YEAR WAS ACTUALLY A LOW.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE WHY WINTER SHELTER ACTUALLY GOT PUT INTO A DIFFERENT CATEGORY LAST YEAR, SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN
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THAT AREA.UH, THIS YEAR IT HAPPENED CORRECTED.
SO WE FEEL 44 IS AN ACCURATE REPRESENTATION WHERE LAST YEAR SHOULD HAVE BEEN A DIFFERENT, UM, QUESTION AS ARE GOING ON OR WE, I KNOW.
DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON THE TABLE? JUST A QUICK THING ON THE TABLE? OH YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT.
SO FROM 2022 TO 25, WE DROPPED 135 YEAR ROUND SHELF PLANS.
YEAH, I'M GONNA, SO WHY IS OUR FLUCTUATION MY NEXT SLIDE? NO, NO, I'M JUST, THINGS FLUCTUATE.
BUT FROM A YEAR ROUND SHELTER PERSPECTIVE AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE ON THE STREET FROM 2022, WE'VE GONE DOWN BY 135 FOR THOSE ON THE STREET NEEDING A SHELTER.
AND WE WILL KIND OF DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE BIT.
SO, UH, WHY IS IT FLUCTUATION? THERE HAVE BEEN SHELTERS THAT HAVE BEEN CONVERTED TO PERMANENT HOUSING, UH, AS WELL AS SOME SHELTERS THAT HAVE CLOSED.
SO, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHEN THE 2022, THE COUNTY HAD BOUGHT TWO HOTELS AND MOTELS THAT THEY WERE OPERATING AS INTERIM HOUSING FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.
THEY THEN CLOSED AND HAD BEEN SINCE CONVERTED AND JUST RECENTLY OPENED.
SO, UH, THAT'S THE OLD HOLIDAY IN ON ANAHEIM AND, UH, 10TH AND THEN, UM, THE OLD, UH, MOTEL SIX AT SEVENTH AND PCH.
SO THAT WAS 175 BEDS CONFIGURED WITHIN THAT.
THERE'S BEEN SOME MOTEL IN THE MOTEL LEASES THAT HAVE COME OFFLINE, FALLEN OFFLINE WITHIN THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
SO THERE ARE MOMENTS WHERE BUMPS AND THERE'S MOMENTS THAT WHERE IT'S DROPPED, UM, THAT IS REALLY THE FLUCTUATION.
WE HAVE SEEN TWO SHELTERS THAT WERE MORE OF A LONG TERM LEASE SPACE WHERE THEY HAD GRANTS AND CONTRACTS, UH, AND ONE INSTANCE WHERE THEY CHOSE TO NOT MOVE FORWARD ANY FURTHER, UH, DUE TO THE COST ON THAT SPACE ONGOING.
AND THE AGENCY DECIDED TO CLOSE.
AND THEN ONE WHERE, UH, AN AGENCY LOST THEIR FUNDING.
UM, SO THAT REALLY KIND OF SPEAKS TO THE FLUCTUATION.
A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH MOTEL AND HOTEL USAGE.
UH, AND LISA'S, UM, THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE SOME OF THOSE SPIKES AND SOME OF THE DROPS.
SO, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY KIND OF WHAT'S HAPPENED.
UM, WITHIN THAT, LIKE WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL ENCAMPMENT RESOLUTIONS THAT HAVE COME AND ENDED.
SO WE HAD, MY CARS WERE PARKED WITHIN CD SIX THAT WAS 24 BEDS THAT LASTED ABOUT NINE MONTHS, UM, OR 24 ROOMS. AND THEN WE HAD OUR FOCUS ON VILLAGE JEAN KING LIBRARY, THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
UH, THAT WAS 60 ROOMS THAT CAME ONLINE THAT IS NO LONGER ONLINE NOW.
UH, FOUNTAIN STREET, WE HAD, UH, LEASED OR VOUCHER 20 ENS AT ONE POINT WE COULD TRY TO ADDRESS AN ENCAMPMENT, UH, WITHIN A BUILDING THAT WAS ON COTTON STREET WORKING TO BE CONVERTED INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND STARTING CONSTRUCTION.
UH, SO THERE HAS SOME, BEEN SOME UPS AND DOWNS WITHIN THAT.
UM, AS WELL AS SOME THINGS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED, POSTS THAT WHERE THERE'S CONVERSATIONS OF WHETHER THEY SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN OUR HOUSING INVENTORY COUNT OR NOT.
UH, ONE UNIQUE THING IS, UH, RECUPERATIVE CARE AND THERE'S KIND OF AMBIGUOUS GUIDANCE FROM HUD ON WHETHER THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN YOUR HOUSING INVENTORY COUNT OR NOT AS WELL.
UH, SO THIS WOULD INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, SPACES LIKE THE COMMUNITY CARE CAMPUS, LIKE THE OLD COMMUNITY HOSPITAL AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH AND KIND OF LOOK AT IT A LITTLE FURTHER.
IS IT, THIS IS ONLY PEOPLE STEPPING DOWN FROM HOSPITALS THEN IT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT MORE LIKE A HOSPITAL BED.
WE DON'T INCLUDE THAT IN THE HOUSING INVENTORY COUNT.
IF THEY WILL TAKE PEOPLE DIRECTLY REFERRALS, UH, FROM THE STREET, THEN YOU SHOULD POTENTIALLY CONSIDER IT.
BUT THEY DON'T GIVE ANY DEFINITIVE GUIDANCE.
WE'VE MADE THE DECISION GOING FORWARD THAT WE WILL INCLUDE COMMUNITY HOSPITAL WITHIN HARASS
UM, IT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS PAST YEAR.
SO THAT WILL BE SOME ADJUSTMENT WITHIN, UH, THE COMING YEAR AS WE LOOK AT THINGS.
WHAT THAT, OH, SORRY, I GOT CUT OFF.
UM, I THINK THERE'S A PAGE MISSING.
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UH, I THINK WE MISSED ONE PART OF THIS.UM, THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A TOP HEADER ON THE FIRST ONE.
UH, THE YES AND NOS ARE WHETHER THEY ARE, UH, UV PROGRAMS, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
SO, UH, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO GET FOR US TO GET INFORMATION.
UM, WE DID PUT OUT A DOCUMENT THAT HAD THE ADDRESSES.
THAT IS WHY YOU'LL SEE ON ONES THAT SAY YES.
UH, THE FAR RIGHT COLUMN IS COUNCIL DISTRICTS.
AGAIN, SORRY, THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AD OR THAT HAD WHAT EACH ONES ARE.
SECOND COLUMN IS THIS A DB PROGRAM.
THIRD COLUMN IS, UH, THE NAME OF THE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE ON RECORD.
THE FOURTH COLUMN IS THE NUMBER OF BEDS AT THE SITE.
AND THE LAST COLUMN, ROW FIVE, UM, ARE QUALIFIED WHAT COUNCIL DISTRICT THIS PROJECT WANTS.
SO, UM, THIS IS JUST AN OVERVIEW.
AGAIN, WE'LL SEND IT OUT, WE'LL RESEND IT WITH THE HEADER AND I THINK THEY, I THINK WE MISSED ONE.
UM, SO I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH EACH AND EVERY ONE.
I'M ACTUALLY GONNA GO TO OUR, TOWARDS THE END HERE.
UH, SO SOME CHANGES, NOT ALL OF THESE WERE IN THE HI.
UM, WHERE IT ENDS WITH WHAT WAS IN THE HI ACTUALLY STARTS AT HOME AT LAST, RIGHT THERE.
UM, SO THIS OPENED, THAT SITE OPENED UH, IN OCTOBER.
UM, SO THIS WAS PURCHASED FOR PRIVATE MONEY.
THIS USED TO BE THE EXTENDED STAY AMERICA ON WILLOW WILLOW AND NEAR LAKEWOOD.
UM, SO THIS WAS PRIVATELY PURCHASED AND THEN THEY HAVE RECEIVED FUNDING THROUGH DMH OF BEHAVIORAL OUTREACH.
UH, SO THIS WAS NOT IN THE HI.
UH, THIS IS 150 VETS THAT EXIST AT THAT SITE NOW.
THE YOUTH NAVIGATION CENTER WILL BE OPENING SOON.
THIS IS THE CITY PROJECT, UH, THAT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING THROUGH A FEW THINGS.
WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL PLUMBING ISSUES THAT HAVE REALLY HINDERED US.
WE WERE HOPING TO ACTUALLY OPEN THIS WEEK.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY WE WILL HAVE TO CUT INTO THE CONCRETE TO REPLACE SOME OF THE PLUMBING, UH, THAT WAS NOT ADDRESSED DURING CONSTRUCTION.
UM, AND THEN PHK AT 59, 50 LONG BEACH BOULEVARD.
SO THE FIRST PEOPLE WENT IN MONDAY.
THAT IS 78 NEW ROOMS, UH, 25 PEOPLE HAVE GONE IN SINCE MONDAY.
UH, LOS ANGELES COUNTY PATHWAY HOME WERE NOT INCLUDED WITHIN, UH, THE HICK.
AND THERE WAS SOME DISCREPANCIES ON WE SHOULD REPORT THAT.
SO THIS IS ENDED UP BEING REPORTED BY THE COUNTY VERSUS UH, US.
UM, EVEN THOUGH THESE SITES ARE IN LONG BEACH, UH, AND THERE ARE SOME LONG BEACH PEOPLE IN A COUPLE OF THESE SITES.
SO CORONADO MOTEL, UH, WAS FOCUSED ON THE LA RIVERBED, UH, AND A PORTION OF THE LA RIVERBED THAT THE COUNTY FUNDED THROUGH THEIR PATHWAY HOME PROJECT.
AND THEN THERE IS THE COLONIAL MOTEL, UH, WHICH IS A COMBINATION OF PEOPLE FROM SIGNAL HILL AND, UH, VARIOUS ENCAMPMENTS THROUGHOUT LONG BEACH.
ALSO MOUNTAIN EGG, UH, THAT TWO ROOMS. AND THEN THERE ARE A COUPLE PROJECTS COMING, RESEARCH, RECOVERY AND COLLABORATION WITH, UH, UM, THE, UH, TRANSITIONAL LIVING HOMES.
UH, WE'LL BE OPENING UP A SITE SOON ON SALMON PHASE.
SO THAT'S COMING SOON WITH 60 BEDS.
SO THEY'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH AS SOME FINAL THINGS, BUT SHOULD BE OPENING SOON.
AND THEN LASTLY, ENCOMPASS, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE 150 RECUPERATIVE CARE BEDS NOW THAT CONTINUE TO ADD.
UM, SO THAT WAS NOT IN THE NICK BASED ON CONVERSATION AND CONSENSUS.
WE WILL BE INCLUDING THAT IN FUTURE YEARS.
I DIDN'T HAVE AT THE OF THE YEAR THEY FINALIZED ON THAT SITE.
SO EXECUTIVE MH SO THAT'S FUNDED BY EMH.
SO ANYBODY GOING INTO THAT PROJECTS HAS TO BE REFERRED TO MH AND HOME AT
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LAST IS THE SERVICE PROVIDER.WELL, HOW MANY UNHOUSED PEOPLE DO WE HAVE IN LONG BEACH NOW ON A ONGOING BASIS COUNT? WELL, THAT'S A LITTLE HARDER TO SAY.
HOW CLOSE ARE WE TO TAKING CARE OF THE UNHOUSED PEOPLE,
UH, WE'VE GOT A WAYS TO GO EVEN WITH ADDITIONAL THINGS.
I DO MAKE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN UNHOUSED AND HOMELESS.
YEAH, BECAUSE YOU'D BE HOMELESS AND HAVE A PERMANENT HOUSE, PERMANENT PLACE TO GO EVERY NIGHT.
YEAH, I MEAN FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
LIKE THERE ARE ADDITIONAL BEDS THAT ARE COMING ONLINE THAT, YOU KNOW, CHIP AWAY TOWARDS THE GOAL THAT, YOU KNOW, ASACS RECOMMENDATION OF GETTING TO 60%.
HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, UNTIL WE DO THE HOMELESS GAP NEXT MONTH, LIKE THAT WILL GIVE US A BAROMETER OF LIKE, IS THERE SHIFTS IN OTHER DIRECTIONS SO THE 60% CAN CHANGE.
LIKE WHAT IT TAKES TO GET TO 60% YEAH.
AND WE DID LIKE POINT TO THAT WITHIN, UH, THE DOCUMENT, THE TFF, THAT HEY, IF YOUR HOMELESS COUNT IS 2000 PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, WHAT IT TAKES TO GET TO 60% OF PEOPLE BEING COVERED THE SHELTER BEDS IS A THOUSAND.
A LITTLE OVER A THOUSAND BEDS.
IF YOU HAVE 3,500 PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, WHAT IT TAKES TO GET TO 60% SHELTER IS ALMOST DOUBLE WHAT IT WAS AT 2000.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK AS WE CREATE ADDITIONAL BEDS, IF WE DON'T STOP INFLOW AND HELP MORE PEOPLE GET OUT INTO PERMANENT HOUSING, THE NUMBER OF BEDS THAT IT TAKES TO GET TO 60% SHELTER WILL CONTINUE TO GO UP IF HOMELESSNESS.
NOW I UNDERSTAND THERE MIGHT BE A CHANGE IN S RULE ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR PERMANENT HOUSES THAT THEY MAY BE LOOKING AT REDUCING THAT.
SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO CONVERT SOME MOTELS, MOTELS HOUSING DOESN'T PERMANENT HOUSING FOR HOMELESS PEOPLE ANYMORE.
SO I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT DID YOU SAY? I DOES NOT WANT TO FIND PERMANENT HOUSING FOR HOMELESS.
THE MOTELS HAVE BEEN CONVERTED TO PERMANENT HOUSING.
SO IT'S, THEY'RE ALL HUD HOUSING.
HOW LONG CAN THEY STAY THERE FOR TWO YEARS? SO FOR THE ONES THAT ARE INTERIM, THAT ARE CONVERSIONS, LIKE WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE A DEFINITIVE LENGTH OF STATE AS LONG AS THE PERSON IS CONTINUING TO WORK TOWARDS PERMANENT HOUSING.
LIKE FOR SOME PEOPLE THAT MIGHT HAPPEN QUICKLY.
WE SEE PEOPLE GET HOUSED PRETTY QUICKLY SOMETIMES.
AND OTHER TIMES WE SEE PEOPLE SIT FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME.
RIGHT NOW, I WILL SAY THERE IS NOT GONNA BE VOUCHERS AVAILABLE FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE FROM OUR HOUSING AUTHORITY.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL REDUCTIONS IN PERMANENT HOUSING AVAILABLE TO THE COC.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE STATE FUNDING AND COUNTY FUNDING, WHICH WE'RE LOOKING AT SHIFTS AND SUSTAINABILITY AND OTHER THINGS.
UH, BUT THE REALITY IS IT MAY TAKE PEOPLE IF THEY NEED AN ONGOING SUBSIDY MUCH LONGER TO GET TO AN OH, AN ONGOING SUBSIDY.
UM, DO YOU REMEMBER THE 580 SOME, UM, EMERGENCY VOUCHERS I GAVE OUT DURING THE PANDEMIC? UM, ARE THOSE BEING ADDRESSED AS THEY, THOSE ARE NO LONGER BEING FUNDED.
WE ARE WORKING TO MOVE PEOPLE TO, UH, OTHER VOUCHERS.
SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THAT ON WHAT THE PROCESS TO DO SO IS THAT DOESN'T COME WITHOUT A COST BECAUSE THOSE ARE VOUCHERS THAT WE'RE SWITCHING OVER THAT COULD HAVE BEEN USED FOR OTHER PEOPLE.
HOWEVER, WE EITHER DISPLACE PEOPLE THAT WERE ON EMERGENCY HOUSING VOUCHERS 'CAUSE THERE'S SOME MORE FUNDING FOR THOSE.
OR WE MOVE THEM ONTO VOUCHERS THAT WERE EXISTING WITHIN THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, WHICH MEANS WE DON'T ISSUE FOR A WHILE.
THAT IS A, THE SECONDARY APPROACH THAT WE'RE TAKING.
UM, SO THAT MEANS THERE WILL NOT BE, YOU KNOW, VOUCHERS THAT WERE THERE, UH, IN PREVIOUS YEARS AT THE SAME LEVEL THAT HAVE HOW HELPED US IN DOING SOME ADDITIONAL
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PERMANENT HOUSING FOR PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.THIS MEANS THAT, AGAIN, OUR EXIT PATHWAYS OUT OF SHELTER ARE LIKELY GOING TO BE REDUCED OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO.
IT'S, IT'S GONNA TAKE A MOMENT BEFORE WE ARE BACK UNLESS SOMETHING DRASTIC CHANGES.
I, I GUESS THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS AND TRYING TO ATTACK THAT, UM, SHELTER, YOU KNOW, THE 27.5% SHELTER NUMBER, UM, WE ALWAYS TRY TO THROW OUT SOME OF THE, THE OPTIONS THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE DONE IN TERMS OF SHARED HOUSING THAT ISN'T RELI RELIANT ON HUD.
IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY MAKING $1,200 A MONTH OFF THEIR DISABILITY OR SOCIAL SECURITY, TECHNICALLY THEY COULD AFFORD $500 A MONTH TO PAY.
I MEAN, I KNOW PEOPLE AT SROS WHO HAVE PAID SIX 50 FOR OVER 10 YEARS, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A HUD HOUSING.
SO MAYBE WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE CONVERSIONS OF THE 500 AND SOME VOUCHERS, MAYBE WE CAN ALSO HAVE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE OR SOMETHING LOOKING AT, UM, OTHER WAYS TO GET PEOPLE IN ORDER WITHOUT WAITING FOR HUD TO, TO, TO OPEN UP MORE MONEY.
'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA DO IT.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT IS THE TRUE REALITY OF WHERE WE'RE AT.
AND THOSE ARE GONNA BE THE OPTIONS THAT IF WE AREN'T GONNA GO INTO AN EXTREME CRISIS SITUATION THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, I FIND IT CONCERNING IN SOME WAYS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, LIKE WHAT'S BETTER FOR BEING MOSTLY PEOPLE BEING IN EXACTLY INDOORS.
SO FROM A PRAGMATIC LENS, LIKE I MAY NOT LIKE THE DIRECTION THAT THAT SENDS US AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE SHOULD AS A COUNTRY, LIKE PRIORITIZE HOUSING AND LIKE MAKE HOUSING AFFORDABLE.
BUT IF THAT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN, LIKE WE'VE GOTTA MAKE AFFORDABLE OPTIONS.
SO WE HAVE TO GET THE PEOPLE, PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS.
I MEAN, WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS NOT HELPFUL FOR US.
BUT I I, GOOD REPORT AND NUMBER ONE, IT'S NICE TO SEE A YEARLY TRACKING OF THE YEAR ROUND SHELTER BED.
AND BECAUSE WE SEE ALL KINDS OF NUMBERS, IT'S VERY CONFUSING.
AND THESE ARE THE BEDS REALLY AVAILABLE TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE ON THE STREETS.
I'M A LITTLE CON AND, AND WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, I ALSO LOOK AT THINKING ABOUT WHAT'S AVAILABLE THIS YEAR, WHAT'S AVAILABLE NEXT YEAR, WHAT'S AVAILABLE YEAR AFTER THAT.
IN THE END YOU PRESENTED 2, 4, 6, 7, UM, LINE ITEMS THAT WEREN'T INCLUDED IN THE THE COUNT.
SO THE QUE LET ME ASK MY QUESTION.
THIS DIDN'T OPEN UNTIL AFTER NO WAIT, LEMME ASK.
OKAY, SO MY QUESTION IS MAYBE YOU'RE ANSWERING IT.
THERE'S A CURRENT, THERE'S A CURRENT EXPERIENCE THE CITY HAS WITH HOMELESSNESS ON THE STREET.
SO MY QUESTION IS OF THESE, WHEN DID THESE FIVE OPEN? HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN OPEN OR WHEN WILL THEY OPEN? 'CAUSE IF THEY'VE BEEN OPEN FOR THE LAST YEAR OR TWO, THEN WE STILL HAVE OUR CURRENT PROBLEM WITH OLOGISTS ON THE STREET.
IF THEY'RE GONNA OPEN NOW, THEY'RE GONNA NOW OR IN THE FUTURE, THEY'RE GOING TO IMPROVE.
SO IT WOULD HELP, YOU KNOW, WHEN THESE ARE ARE OPEN OR WHEN THEY'RE PLANNED TO BE OPEN.
ARE THEY, THAT'S ALREADY HOME.
LAST JUST OPENED A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.
IT'S ACCOUNTING WIDE PROGRAM AND SPEAKING TO THE BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE.
THE PROGRAMMER FROM LONG BEACH HALF ARE FROM SURROUNDING CITIES.
THAT IS A COUNTY FUNDED PROGRAM.
UH, NAVIGATION CENTER, HOPEFULLY WE'LL THEN OPEN IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO.
AND DEPENDING ON CONSTRUCTION, IT'S READY TO GO.
OTHERWISE, UH, THIS ONE OPEN EARLIER THIS WEEK, SO IT'S NEW.
THIS, THIS WAS INCLUDED IN THE COUNTY THAT HELD THE LOSS ACCOUNT INCLUDED THE NEXT TWO, BUT IT WAS NOT WITHIN
SO THAT'S BEEN AROUND, THEY, THEY HAVE BEEN AROUND.
THOSE HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS, COMING UP ON TWO YEARS.
WE'VE TALKED TO ROOTS OF RECOVERY.
ROOTS RECOVERY AND THEN THEY'RE, THEY'RE, IT'S COMING ONLINE IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
THIS HAS A PORTION OF THIS HAS BEEN ONLINE AS OF LAST YEAR.
BUT THE THING ABOUT, I MEAN I'VE BEEN TO ENCOMPASS HOUSING SEVERAL TIMES.
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IT ISN'T SPECIFICALLY JUST FOR HOMELESS PEOPLE.I, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PEOPLE WHO GOT CHECKED OUT OF A HOSPITAL AND ENDED UP THERE.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFICULT, THAT'S KIND OF WHY HUD GIVES REALLY BROAD WONKY GUIDANCE ON IT.
THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE ARE HOMELESS.
NOT EVERYBODY'S HOMELESS AND SOME AREN'T FROM LONG BEACH TOO, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SOME ARE BEING DIRECT DISCHARGED OUT OF THE HOSPITAL.
SOME ARE BEING DIRECTLY, YOU KNOW, REFERRED THROUGH OUTREACH SAYING HEY, THIS PERSON HAS MEDICAL ISSUES.
THEY NEED A PLACE TO RECOVER FROM.
UH, NOT FROM A DIRECTLY FROM A HOSPITAL.
SO IT'S LIKE A WEIRD THING WHERE IT'S HARD TO DIFFERENTIATE ALL BEDS AT ANY GIVEN POINT.
IT'S WHY DIDN'T GET COUNTED LAST TIME.
THERE ARE SOME ISSUES WITH INCLUDING IT, BUT THERE'S ALSO ISSUES WITH NOT INCLUDING IT.
WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO WADE THROUGH HOW WE BEST, SO IN MY THINKING IN 2022 TO NOW, I MENTIONED THAT 1 35 BUCKS.
AND THEN AS I LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, I, I'M FEELING LIKE THERE'S GONNA BE, THE 1 35 IS GONNA BE REPLACED AND MAYBE THERE'S GONNA BE MAYBE ANOTHER HUNDRED.
SO WE'VE DONE THE COUNT WHEN YOU FINISH A HUNDRED.
SO FROM 2025 TO NOW, THERE'S BEEN AN INCREASE IN ONLY 100 SHELTER DATES IN 2022 TO NOW, WHICH I, AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE FEEL IS NOT ENOUGH.
IT'S FAR BEHIND WHAT IS NEEDED.
THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN RECOMMENDING.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR, THE YEAR AFTER AND THE YEAR AFTER TO DECIDE WHAT IS NEEDED AND WHAT CAN BE DONE.
AND IF THE ANSWER IS THERE'S NO MONEY, THEN THE HOMELESS SITUATION IS THE HOMELESS SITUATION ON THE STREETS, THAT'S OKAY.
SO, BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE A MULTI-YEAR PLAN TO INCREASE THESE BILLS.
SO BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, LOOKING AT THE OTHER STUFF THAT WASN'T IN THE, EVERYTHING COMING ON ONLINE, WE'RE AT ABOUT 15, 1500 BEDS OF BED I DIDN'T GIVE.
SO THE COUNTY WILL BE DEMOBILIZING, THESE TWO PROGRAMS, UH, THEY ARE IN A DEFICIT.
SO THOSE ARE ENDING, UH, WE HAVE A, WE ARE WORKING ON A MOTEL LEASE OURSELVES TO DO SOME RIVERBED FOCUS FROM THE FUNDING THAT GOT IN.
SO WE'LL KIND OF BE FILLING THAT BACK UP TO A DEGREE.
SO IT'S MUCH, WE ARE FULL TIME.
JUST SO IF YOU GO BACK TO THE FIRST THING THAT HAS THE YEARS, THE YEARS GOING INTO IT, IT WOULD BE SO NICE TO SEE THIS WITH A PROJECTION FOR 2026, A PROJECTION FOR 2027 BECAUSE YOU, WE'VE DONE ALL THIS IN OUR HEADS AND WE HAVE A PROJECTION, BUT I GET LOST AS TO WHAT THAT PROJECTION IS.
AND THE PROJECTION SHOULD SHOW, IN MY MIND, SHOULD SHOW THAT IN 25 THE NUMBERS WILL GO UP IN 26TH THE NUMBERS WILL GO UP AND IN 27 THE YEAR ROUND SHELTER BEDS WILL GO UP WITH ESTIMATES OF WHAT THAT'S GONNA BE.
IT SEEMS LIKE WE COULD DO THAT, BUT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO KEEP TRACK OF ALL THIS.
I WILL SAY WITH ARE WE PROJECTED BUDGET WISE, OUR PROJECTION IS WE WILL GET TO 15, AROUND 1500 NEXT YEAR.
AND THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL PROJECTION ON THAT AT THE MOMENT.
PAM HAS HAD HER HAND UP PATIENT.
OH NO, I WAS WONDERING ABOUT YOU IN THE HOSPITAL.
SO ARE THEY GOING DIRECT ADMIT TO THESE SHELTERS? LIKE IF THEY NEED MEDICAL, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE, OR IS THE THIRD PARTY INTERCEPTING AND THEN REROUTING? SO FOR ENCOMPASS, UM, THEY TAKE DISCHARGES FROM THE HOSPITAL.
SO SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE STABILIZED.
THEY'RE TYPICALLY NOT GONNA GET SOMEBODY THAT WALKS INTO THE EMERGENCY ROOM AND THE PERSON SAYS, HEY, I'M JUST GONNA REFER YOU DIRECTLY THERE.
SO TYPICALLY ANYBODY COMING FROM A HOSPITAL HAS RECEIVED SOME LEVEL OF CARE FROM THE HOSPITAL.
THE HOSPITAL IS DETERMINED THIS PERSON NO LONGER NEEDS HOSPITAL SERVICES, BUT THEY NEED A PLACE TO HEAL.
UH, SO THAT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, RECUPERATIVE CARE SLASH HOSPITAL STEP DOWN IS WHAT ENCOMPASS PROVIDES.
UM, THERE ARE SOME INSTANCES WHERE SOMEBODY MAY LIVE SOMEWHERE THAT'S JUST NOT HEALTHY DUE, HE HEAL.
SO IT'S NOT EVERYBODY THERE IS HOMELESS.
UH, PART OF IT IS HOSPITAL STEP DOWN.
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SO ENCOMPASS DOES ALSO TAKE DIRECT REFERRAL WHERE, YOU KNOW, OUTREACH COMES UPON SOMEBODY THAT HAS A MEDICAL CONDITION, IT'S STABLE, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA HEAL ON THE STREET.THEY WILL ALSO TAKE A DIRECT REFERRAL WHERE THEY'LL WORK WITH THE INSURANCE TO SAY, HEY, THIS PERSON HAS THIS MEDICAL CONDITION.
THEY NEED A PLACE WITH SOME NURSING SUPPORT WHILE THEY HEAL.
UM, AND THEY CAN RECEIVE A GROUP OF CARE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.
PAM'S, PAM GOT A QUESTION REAL QUICK.
UM, I KIND HAVE A COMMENT, I GUESS.
UM, I KIND OF SEE THAT WE WENT IN DIRECTION OF NUMBERS BECAUSE WE'RE LIKE FOCUSING ON NUMBERS.
UM, IT'S THE CONTENT OF THESE PLACES AND THE PROGRAMS WE HAVE THERE TO ACTUALLY GET PEOPLE OUT OF THE HOMELESS SITUATION.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE NUMBER OF BEDS.
'CAUSE WE CAN HAVE 3000 BEDS AND THOSE POOL WILL NOT GO IN DEPENDING ON WHAT TYPE OF BEDS THOSE ARE.
AND I FEEL LIKE WE AS A COMMITTEE, YOU'RE DRILLING TOO MUCH INTO NUMBERS INSTEAD OF, AND LOOKING AT WHAT PROGRAMMING IS GOING INTO THESE PLACES AND WHO IS ACTUALLY COMING OUT AS, UM, EVALUATION COMING OUT.
HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY MOVING INTO OUT HOMELESSNESS OR COMING BACK HERE.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT BEDS.
WE'RE THOSE ARE BEDS RIGHT NOW.
MEASURES OF OUTCOMES OUT OF ANY OF THESE FACILITIES THAT, UM, THAT WE KNOW OF.
SO THIS IS A DISCUSSION OF BEDS AVAILABLE.
IT'S NOT EVEN OCCUPANCY, BUT IT'S BEDS.
AGAIN, TO PIGGYBACK AT, THIS IS FANTASTIC.
WE APPRECIATE THE NUMBER CRUNCHING TRACKING THIS THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING.
IT DOES THOUGH, THE QUESTION THAT I COME UP WITH IS, OKAY, SO FOR TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, WHAT'S THE TRACK RECORD? WHAT ARE THE CHARACTERISTICS OF OUR HOMELESS NEIGHBORS THAT UTILIZE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING? WHAT ARE THE PRIORITY, THE MOST EFFECTIVE SERVICES THAT GET PROVIDED? AND HOW MANY OF THOSE FOLKS ARE ABLE TO MAKE IT INTO PERMANENT HOUSING, CONGREGATE SHELTER, THE SAME THING.
NON CONGREGATE AND SAFETY EVEN.
PROBABLY NOT, BUT THE OTHER ISSUE.
SO, BUT ON THE SAME QUESTION, I'M I TO FALL DOWN WITH THESE ENCAMPMENT RESOLUTIONS AND THE SPECIAL WORK THAT GOT DONE, I'M REALLY INTERESTED TO KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WENT THROUGH THIS.
AGAIN, LOOK FOR THE CHARACTERISTICS, WHAT SERVICES WERE THE MOST BENEFICIAL AND HOW MANY OF THOSE FOLKS HAVE HAVE MADE AND TO SOME T HOUSING WE HAVE.
PAUL HAS INCLUDED THAT INFORMATION BEFORE.
IS THAT, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN EXTERNAL STUDY THAT I CAN SEND YOU THAT WAS ABOUT ASSOCIATES.
QUICK, YEAH, SORRY FOR THIS, BUT CAN YOU REMIND US IN, IN A RANGE APPROXIMATELY HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO SHELTER ONE INDIVIDUAL PER YEAR? I KNOW THERE'S A RANGE OF TYPES OF SERVICES AND SHELTER, BUT BALLPARK, HOW MUCH DOES IT COST FOR ONE PERSON? WELL, IT'S THE REIMBURSEMENT RATE IS WHAT, 80 TO $90 A BIT.
SO WHERE TALKING IS THAT CONGREGATED SHELTER OR EVERYTHING ELSE? BOTH CONGREGATE, NON CONGREGATE AREN'T THAT DIFFERENT.
UM, SAY THESE DMH BEDS, THEY DO PAY AT A HIGHER RATE BECAUSE THEY HAVE A HIGHER RATE OF LICENSE.
YOU KNOW, MENTAL HEALTH CLINICIANS THAT ARE PROVIDING SUPPORT ON SITE OR RECUPERATIVE CARE.
YOU HAVE NURSES THAT ARE THERE.
SO SOME ARE MORE SERVICE RICH AND COST MORE.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALSO, HEY, IF YOU'RE RENTING A MOTEL OR HOTEL, YOU'RE PAYING FOR THE MOTEL OR HOTEL AS WELL ON TOP OF THE SERVICES.
SO WE SEE A RANGE ANYWHERE FROM WHAT'S DOLLARS TO, WHAT'S THE $200? 80, $90 PER ANAHEIM? EIGHT.
THE CITY OWNED ONES ARE AROUND 80 TO 90.
CAN WE MOVE ON? OH YEAH, JIM, YOU KNOW ABOUT PROJECTING THESE THINGS.
IT IS SO DIFFICULT BECAUSE WE TEND TO THINK OF HOMELESS, BUT THIS IS AFFECTED BY ALL BUSINESS.
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REASON WE'VE HAD AN INCREASE IN BEDS FOR THE HOMELESS, WHICH, BECAUSE COVID WAS A DISASTER FOR THE MOTEL BUSINESS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN MOTEL BUSINESSES CAME ON THE MARKET AND WE'RE ABLE TO BUY THEM BEFORE COVID THEY COULDN'T HAVE AFFORD.THE NEXT BUSINESS THAT'S TAKING A GIFT PART THAT MIGHT END UP CONTRIBUTING TO HOMELESS TOVES MORE REQUIREMENTS IS BUSINESS OFFICES.
SO HOW DO WE PROJECT ALL THIS? THAT'S WHERE IT CAN BE VERY COMPLICATED, BUT WE HAVE TO BE LOOKING AT THE WHOLE PICTURE, NOT JUST WHO'S BEST.
PAUL, ARE YOU ABLE TO WRAP UP? I'M DONE.
OH, I'M JUST ANSWERING QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT.
WHY I APPRECIATE KEN'S COMMENT.
UM, BECAUSE A LOT OF US IN OUR TRAVELS IN THE CITY, UH, HAVE FACE TO FACE WITH HOMELESSNESS EVERY DAY SEVERAL TIMES A DAY.
AND, UM, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO SEE ANY HUMANITY OUT THERE AND UM, THE NUMBERS DEFINITELY DISTRACT.
UM, JENNIFER, YOU WANT TO DO THE PUBLIC COMMENT? YES.
ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? SEEING NONE, I HAVE A COMMENT.
PAUL MENTIONED AN EXTERNAL STUDY.
IS THAT EXTERNAL STUDY AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC? AND IF SO, HOW DO WE OBTAIN A COPY? UH, DO YOU WANT ME TO SEND YOU A COPY? JUST YOU CAN EMAIL ME.
REAL QUICK AND THEN I'LL MAKE SURE WE SEND IT OUT.
AND ALSO THAT AFTER ALL, SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS.
SO THIS WAS PAGE FOUR HELPING, UM, AS A PART OF OUR ENCAMPMENT RESOLUTION GRANT.
SO AFTER, UH, ALL OF US FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AND THEY FOLLOWED A COUPLE OTHER ENCAMPMENT WAYS OF DOING RESOLUTION AND THE REPORT SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT GETS SENT OUT.
SO THE MOTION IS ON THE TABLE, UM, TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE DISCUSSION ON THE CITY ONLY SHALL OKAY.
IS THERE A SECOND? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UM, OKAY WE ARE TABLING NUMBER FIVE.
CAN WE GET A VOTE? A MOTION? YES.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE ITEM NUMBER FIVE? UM, ANY DISCUSSION ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OKAY.
UM, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO TABLE ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
ITEM NUMBER SIX, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE HOMELESS SERVICES BUREAU QUARTERLY OPERATIONS DATA REPORT AND STAFF OPERATIONS AND UPDATES REPORT FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
AND THEN HE JUST WENT TO GET MY CHARGER.
AND PROVIDE SOME FUNDING UPDATES.
YEAH, IF WE COULD UM, HAVE AN ABBREVIATION OF IT.
YEAH, SINCE WE HAVE THE HANDOUT, I MEAN FUNDING UPDATES, I'LL TRY TO FOCUS PURELY ON THAT.
UM, SO, UH, THIS KIND OF WAS ALLUDED TO ON NOVEMBER 13TH, UH, THE US DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT, UH, DID RELEASE THEIR ANNUAL NOTICE OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.
THIS IS THEIR ANNUAL COMPETITION.
THIS YEAR'S NOFO, UH, REPRESENTS A SIGNIFICANT WITHIN POLICIES, UH, BOTH FROM A POLICY OF WHAT PRACTICES THEY WANT TO SEE.
SO, UH, THEY NO LONGER WANT TO, THEY DON'T SAY NO HOUSING FIRST, BUT POLICIES KIND OF SPEAK TO, THEY DO NOT WANT TO SEE HOUSING FIRST PROGRAMS. THEY DO NOT WANT TO SEE PROJECTS THAT ARE, UH, UTILIZING HARM REDUCTION.
UH, THEY WANT TO SEE PROJECTS THAT DO NOT, UH, ENGAGE IN GENDER IDEOLOGY, UH, AND ONLY RECOGNIZE THE BINARY MAN AND WOMAN.
UM, THEY WANT TO FOCUS MORE ON PUBLIC SAFETY.
THERE ARE SERVICE REQUIREMENTS FOR NEW PROJECTS THAT MUST BE, UH, INCORPORATED.
SO THEY'RE WANTING TO SEE PEOPLE LIKE WAGE LABOR PROVIDE 40 HOURS OF, YOU KNOW, SERVICES OR ENGAGEMENT IN, UH, DIFFERENT TYPES OF SERVICES AT THE SITE.
SO THIS COULD BE VOLUNTEERSHIP OR
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DOING CERTAIN THINGS AT THE SITE OR ENGAGING IN A TREATMENT TYPE PROGRAM, BUT THEY WANT TO SEE 40 HOURS A WEEK.UM, SO THAT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.
UH, FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE RECEIVING PERMANENT HOUSING.
THEY WANT TO CAP IT TO TWO YEARS UNLESS YOU ARE, UH, OVER THE AGE OF 65 OR HAVE UH, A PHYSICAL DISABILITY.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY DO NOT THINK THAT MENTAL HEALTH IS REALLY CLASSIFIED WITHIN THAT OR, AND SPEAK TO HOMELESSNESS REALLY BEING DRIVEN BY SUBSTANCE ABUSE, UM, AND MENTAL HEALTH AND UM, ECONOMIC ISSUES.
UH, SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE LAID OUT WITHIN THEIR, THEIR NOFO.
UH, AND SO PAUL, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TAKE WHEN WE GO MEET WITH CORRECT OUR COUNCIL PEOPLE.
THIS IS THE PERFECT PAGE TO, SO THEY ARE CAPPING THE AMOUNT OF PERMANENT HOUSING PROJECTS THAT ANY CONTINUUM CAN PUT FORWARD.
SO WE ARE CAPPED TO ONLY BEING ABLE TO SUBMIT 30% TOWARDS PERMANENT HOUSING PROJECTS.
THIS INCLUDES PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AS WELL AS RAPID REACTION AND ALSO INCLUDES OUR RAPID REHOUSING PH TRANSITIONAL HOUSING PROJECT THAT WE HAVE WITH INTERVAL HOUSE.
SO PREVIOUSLY WE WERE AT $9 MILLION.
WE NEED TO GET DOWN TO 3,577,000 IS THE MAX THAT WE CAN SUBMIT.
UH, SO WE NEED TO REDUCE OUR PERMANENT HOUSING, UH, YOU KNOW, PORTFOLIO THAT WE PUT FORWARD TO HUD FOR CONSIDERATION.
ANYTHING BEYOND THE 30% THEY SAID THEY WILL JUST NO LONGER RECOGNIZE AND THEY WILL NOT CONSIDER FOR FUNDING.
UM, SO WE ARE LOOKING AT A STRATEGY OF TAKING OTHER PROJECTS AND THEY WILL FUND OUTREACH.
UH, THEY WANT A FOCUS ON THINGS THAT PARTNER WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT.
WHAT THAT PARTNERSHIP LOOKS LIKE COULD BE, WE PARTNER WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, WE WORK WITH QUALITY OF LIFE.
WE HAVE A HOMELESS COURT PROGRAM, WE HAVE A JAIL CLINICIAN.
WHAT THOSE FOCUS ON LIKE, YOU KNOW, CAN LOOK LIKE AND COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY.
SO THOSE, EXCUSE ME, IS MEASURE A ABLE TO MAKE ANY, WELL I GET THAT IN A SECOND.
THAT'S THE NEXT, UH, THAT'S THE NEXT SLIDE.
THAT'S THE NEXT DEPRESSING ONE.
UM, SO WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE OUR BEST WESTERN SITE WHERE IT'S MOSTLY OLDER ADULTS AT THAT SITE AND POTENTIALLY PUTTING THAT FORWARD AS A PROJECT AND THEN FREEING UP THAT MONEY THAT CAN THEN BACKFILL.
SO WE ARE, OUR RFP ACTUALLY ASK PEOPLE TO SUBMIT AND SAYS THAT IT COULD BE FUNDED WITH A NUMBER OF FUNDING SOURCES, NOT JUST THE COC FUNDS.
SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THE POTENTIAL OF SWAPPING FUNDING.
THAT WAY WE'RE NOT JUST KICKING PEOPLE OUT, YOU KNOW, THIS 5 MILLION, $500,000 TO REPRESENT ABOUT 300 AS PEOPLE THAT WE WOULD SAY WE NO LONGER WILL BE PAYING RENT FOR YOU.
AND MOST OF THESE WOULD BE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS, UM, OR PEOPLE THAT WERE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS.
SO WE ARE TRYING TO AVOID DISPLACING 500 PEOPLE ONTO THE STREET.
IT'S GONNA TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF MANEUVERING.
THE OTHER THING THAT WE ARE WORRIED IS HOW TO SAID WE WILL LOOK AT NEWS ARTICLES.
WE'LL LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUS OBLIGATIONS AND IF YOU SAID YOU DID HARM REDUCTION, IF YOU SAID YOU RECOGNIZE DEI, IF YOU RECOGNIZE, YOU KNOW, TRANS PEOPLE AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, ADOPTED THINGS THAT USED TO BE POLICIES OF MUD, YOU WE MAY CONSIDER NOT FUNDING YOUR PROJECT.
UM, WHETHER IT WAS THAT SPECIFIC PROJECT OR DISCRETIONARY, THEY ALSO HAVE SAID THAT THEY MAY LOOK AT YOUR COUNTY AND YOUR STATE AND THE POLICIES THAT YOUR COUNTY, YOUR STATE HAVE ADOPTED.
OBVIOUSLY WE LIVE IN CALIFORNIA, WE KNOW THAT THEY COULD POINT TO CALIFORNIA AND SAY, OH ALL OF THESE POLICIES EXIST WITHIN CALIFORNIA.
ALL OF THESE POLICIES EXIST WITHIN THE COUNTY.
SO WE'RE PLAYING SOME OF THE GAME OF LIKE READJUSTING AND SHIFTING TO GIVE THEM STUFF THAT ALIGNS WITH WHAT'S ALLOWABLE.
WE'RE NOT GONNA GO BACK AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO CHANGE THAT.
WE'VE DONE HARM REDUCTION IN THE PAST.
WE'VE DONE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE RECOGNIZED THAT GENDER IS AN EXPANSIVE THING AND LIKE WE RECOGNIZE THAT PEOPLE AS THEY WANT TO SAY THEY REPRESENT THEMSELVES, UH, THOSE ARE NOT THINGS WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO CHANGE.
SO WE'LL GO FORWARD WITH WHAT WE HAVE
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THE STATE HAS, UH, BUT BEFORE THE LAWSUIT, BUT 19 OTHER STATES, THE NATIONAL LINES THEN HOMELESSNESS HAS PUT OUT FORWARD A LAWSUIT REPRESENTING ALL 50 STATES.APPLICATION IS DUE MID NEXT MONTH.
WE GOT SOME PROCESS TOGETHER THROUGH, WE WE'RE GONNA PUT TOGETHER WHAT WE FEEL IS THE MOST COMPETITIVE THAT STILL HAS INTEGRITY THAT ALLOWS US TO CONTINUE TO BALANCE OUR SYSTEM OF MEETING PEOPLE WHERE THEY'RE AT, GETTING THEM INTO A PLACE OFF THE STREET AND ULTIMATELY PERMANENT HOUSING.
UH, VERSUS GETTING OUR PERMANENT HOUSING AND PEOPLE BACK.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF THAT MEANS GOING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE, LIKE THAT FUNDING FOCUSES MORE ON INTERIM HOUSING, WE'LL ADJUST.
UM, BUT WE DON'T WANT THAT TO BE AT THE COST OF DISPLACING.
UH, NEXT OTHER DEPRESSING NEWS ON NOVEMBER 20TH, THE COUNTY DID INFORM US, UH, OR THEY PROVIDED A PRESENTATION, THEY INFORMED US OF EIGHT FOUR, UH, THAT WITHIN THE PROPOSALS FOR LETTER A IN THE COMING YEAR THAT UH, IT WOULD BE A TRANSITION YEAR AND THAT THERE WOULD NO LONGER BE AN ALLOCATION FOR THE THREE CITY LEVEL COS UH, THIS INCLUDES GLENDALE, LONG BEACH AND PASADENA.
UH, JUST SO WE'RE AWARE THAT'S ABOUT $8.2 MILLION, UH, THAT WE RECEIVE AS A COC.
WE THIS YEAR DID GET LOCAL SOLUTIONS FUND THAT'S ABOUT FOUR POINT LITTLE OVER FOUR AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
UH, SO WE ARE LOOKING AT HOW DO WE REBALANCE, IT'S GONNA MEAN MAYBE WE DON'T DO A FEW THINGS THAT WE WERE GONNA DO 'CAUSE WE'VE GOT SOME FUNDING LOSS.
UM, LUCKILY, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE CONTRACTING HAS BEEN DELAYED IN PREVIOUS YEARS, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE ABOUT A YEAR BEHIND IN EXPENDITURES.
THEY'RE GOING TO ALLOW US TO ROLL OVER FUNDING SO WE CAN KIND OF SMOOTH OUT SOME OF THE LOSS OVER THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS AND READJUST WITHOUT LIKE PROGRAM STATEMENT CLIFF.
UM, BUT WE WILL POTENTIALLY WITHOUT OTHER FUNDING SOURCES COMING IN OR SOMETHING MAKING THAT UP, ESPECIALLY WITH IMPACTS ON THE COC POTENTIALLY WE MAY NEED TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, MAKING SOME CHOICES AND SOME PRIORITIZATIONS.
AND I KNOW THAT'S A HARD THING WHEN WE ARE IN A CRISIS AND LOOKING AND WANTING TO DO MORE.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO THERE THIS PROCESS ON FINALIZE IT WILL GO TO LOS ANGELES COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN MAY, 2026 FOR THEIR INPUT AND THEN EVENTUAL VOTE IN THAT OPTION.
UH, WE ARE ADVOCATING FROM THE CITY SIDE.
UM, CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR HAVE BEEN BRIEFED.
UH, THEY ARE AWARE THERE IS ADVOCACY OCCURRING.
UH, THEY MAY MENTION IT WITHIN HIS REMARKS LAST NIGHT AT CITY COUNCIL.
UH, SO THERE IS ADVOCACY THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO, WHETHER THAT WILL CHANGE THE OUTCOME YET TO BE SEEN.
UH, BUT WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ON WHAT THAT TRANSITION LOOKS LIKE.
UH, ENSURING THAT IF THIS IS A TRANSITION AND THAT IS WHAT IS OCCURRING, UH, THAT WE ARE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY AND LOOKING AT HOW DOES THE COUNTY INSURE, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THEIR PRIORITIES OF NOT REDUCING INTERIM HOUSING AND PERMANENT HOUSING THAT MEASURE A WAS FUNDING AND TRYING TO PRESERVE SOME OF THE OUTREACH THAT THAT IS CONSIDERED HERE IN LONG BEACH IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
MAYBE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR, BUT TWO YEARS AFTER FROM NOW, THERE IS NOT THE COC THERE WILL NEED TO BE SOME, YOU KNOW, READJUSTMENTS.
SO THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE STARTED WITH THE COUNTY AND WE'LL, AND THAT I'LL PASS IT OVER TO DALTON TO GO.
SO, UM, IN, IN YOUR MENTION OF THE BEST WESTERN AND THEN THE UP FOR THE OPENING OF THE, UM, OF THE LUXURY IN, UM, THOSE ARE NON CONGREGATE SHELTERS, CORRECT? UM, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION AND I'VE BEEN TO THE BEST WESTERN SEVERAL TIMES VISITING PEOPLE, UM, AND THE, THE ROOMS ARE QUITE, ACTUALLY THE ONES I'VE BEEN IN ARE QUITE LARGE ACTUALLY.
AND SO I WAS WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY, UM, DISCUSSION ON PUTTING TWO PEOPLE IN A ROOM OF, OF THOSE FACILITIES SINCE THEY ARE SHELTER.
I MEAN IT'S WAY BETTER THAN THE 7 0 2 OR THE A C SHELTERS, BUT TWO TO A ROOM TO ME, FOR A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT I'VE MET EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, UM, FRIENDSHIP IS NOT SOMETHING A LOT OF 'EM HAVE AND, AND COMMUNITY IS SOMETHING THEY CRAVE.
AND SO I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK IT IS A BAD THING TO PUT TO
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PEOPLE IN A ROOM WHO CAN LEARN FROM ONE ANOTHER AND, AND HELP ONE ANOTHER AND EVEN DO CHORES LIKE CLEAN THE BATHROOM.SO FROM THE, THE SENSE OF YES.
AND UM, SO WE HAVE DONE THAT PREVIOUSLY THAT WHEN I TALKED ABOUT OUR FOUNTAIN STREET, LIKE PART OF OUR ENGAGEMENT WAS THAT WAS A WEIRD POPULATION, OKAY, IT'S, HEY, YOU'RE ALL LIVING TOGETHER, ARE YOU WILLING TO DOUBLE UP? WE COULD TAKE A SIMILAR APPROACH OF HEY, YOU'RE IN THIS ENC CAPTION TOGETHER, WHO'S WILLING TO DOUBLE TAPE? VERSUS, HEY, YOU DON'T KNOW THIS PERSON, I'M ABOUT TO STICK YOU IN A ROOM WITH THEM AND LIKE IT'S A ENCLOSED ROOM.
LIKE THERE IS SOME LEVEL OF CONCERN WITH DOING THAT.
BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY LIVING TOGETHER AT LUXURY IN SOME COUPLES MOVED IN TOGETHER THE PILOT PROGRAM WITH THE COUNTY, THEY PUT FOUR STRINGERS IN A ONE BEDROOM.
I MEAN THERE'S OTHER PROGRAMMING THAT DOES THIS.
AND UM, I DUNNO, I I MEAN YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT 'EM TOGETHER.
MAYBE YOU BRING 'EM TOGETHER IN A, IN A MIXER OR, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
HEY, CAN YOU IDENTIFY SOMEBODY YOU WANT TO DOUBLE UP WITH? IF THERE'S INCENTIVE? IF THERE'S INCENTIVE.
YEAH, I DID SEE PEOPLE DOING THAT.
THAT'S KIND OF ST LUKE'S YOU'LL YOU'LL GET LOTS OF TAKERS.
YEAH, I MEAN I THINK PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO LEVEL UP.
I'M LIKE, I THINK ALLOWING PEOPLE TO SELECT LIKE, HEY, WE GOTTA WORK FOR YOU.
DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER PERSON THAT YOU CAN IDENTIFY AND THAT WE CAN, LIKE THIS IS A TWO PERSON ROOM, WHO DO YOU WANT TO GO? AND WHAT, YEAH, I JUST THOUGHT COULD MAKE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THEM TO BE DESIGNATED FOR MULTIPLE OCCUPANCY.
BY PUTTING DOUBLE BEDS OR YEAH, IT WAS DESIGNED THAT WAY.
IT WAS A REGULAR BEST WESTERN.
I MEAN SOME HAVE A SINGLE, UH, BED.
I MEAN THE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PROBABLY SOME PEOPLE THERE PUTTING THEM IN A DOUBLE
HAS ANYBODY CONSIDERED FINANCIALLY REWARDING THEM FOR DOUBLING UP? BECAUSE THEY CAN SAY, I, I HAVE NOT THOUGHT THIS OUT, BUT YOU SAY, OKAY, IF YOU DO GUYS DOUBLE UP, WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU A HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH, BUT $200 A MONTH YOU GAIN ANOTHER ROOM, WHICH IS CHEAPER THAN YOU CAN BUY A ROOM.
AND ME WORKING WITH A HOMELESS POPULATION THAT COULD APPEAL.
WE ARE LOOKING AT DIRECT CASH TRANSFER PROGRAMS. THE SAME IS HISTORICALLY NOT DONE DIRECT CASH TRANSFER PROGRAMS. TWO PEOPLE, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS ONE.
SO I NEED SOME GUIDANCE, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO END AT SIX AND IT IS FOUR MINUTES TO SIX AND WE NEED TO GET TO THE VICE CHAIR ELECTION.
AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO UM, TABLE MR. DALTON'S PRESENTATION OF WHICH YOU HAVE A COPY OF.
UM, SO, UH, CAN I HAVE SOME GUIDANCE OR A MOTION? OKAY, SO WE'RE GONNA END DISCUSSION.
OKAY, SO, SO THE MOTION IS TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE HOMELESS SERVICES BUREAU QUARTERLY REPORT AND TABLE WAIT, NO TABLE THE QUARTERLY REPORT.
BUT WE STILL RECEIVE AND FILE IT SINCE WE HAVE IT.
AND THEN THE STAFF OPERATIONS UPDATES WE RECEIVE.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED I MOTION PASSES.
SO, UM, UM, WE HAVE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS IF ANYBODY HAS ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. OH, OKAY.
DID WE ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT? OH, OH NO, SORRY.
UM, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX? ONE QUICK COMMENT.
COULD WE THAT BE PROVIDED DOWN ON A FORUM ON A PAGE BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO READ.
I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? OH, THE ATTACHMENT WE GOT, UM, THE ONLINE VERSION THAT'S AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE.
WE DID A ON THAT ARE TWO PAGE AS WELL FOR PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE MORE CHALLENGED.
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MAKE SURE WE STICK THOSE IN THE BACK.ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS AND THAT WE PRINT SOME COPIES.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, YOU CAN ALWAYS, UM, JENNIFER AND CALL, THEN WE'LL GET
BUT FOR NEXT, FOR THE NEXT MEETING WE'LL HAVE THIS BUILT FOR ZERO.
UM, IF PEOPLE WANT, WE CAN HAVE, UM, DALTON COME BACK IF HE WANTS TO.
I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, SUGGEST THAT WE ALSO DISCUSS THE SHOWER PROGRAM ONCE AGAIN.
YEAH, WE'LL GET AN UPDATE ON THAT ON THE NEXT, ON THE NEXT MEETING.
UM, CAN WE GET A MOTION FOR THAT ONE? COULD I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? I MOVE SECOND.
UM, ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE.
OH, SORRY, I I'M SORRY, I GOT A LITTLE DISTRACTED ON THE TABLING OF ITEM NUMBER SIX.
UM, BUT THOSE OF US WHO CAN'T READ LINES WITHOUT AN EXPLANATION, IS THERE A WRITTEN EXPLANATION ON THE BUREAU DATA UPDATE? OTHER THAN SQUIGGLY LINES? NO, SORRY, THAT WAS MY, MY EXPLANATION WOULD.
I WOULD, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO BRING UP, UM, AT THE POINT IN TIME COUNT IF THERE IS DATA REGARDING THE CONCENTRATION OF OTHER HOUSE PEOPLE BY SLIP CODE.
JUST OR BY COUNCIL DISTRICT OF UNHOUSED PEOPLE, NOT PEOPLE IN SHELTER BED, BUT PEOPLE WHO ARE UNSHELTERED.
WE HAVE, UM, I HAVE LIKE HEAT MAPS WHICH GIVE AREAS OF CONCENTRATION BASED ON GENERAL GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION, BUT I DON'T HAVE, LIKE, I I DON'T HAVE LIKE THE LINES SPLITS FOR LIKE CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT OR LIKE ZIP CODE SPECIFICALLY.
I DO HAVE LIKE GENERIC HEAT THAT'S LIKE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA THAT YOU SEE A, LIKE A LARGE CONCENTRATION NEAR THE MSC, YOU SEE A LARGE CONCENTRATION.
SO I, I DO HAVE VISUAL HEAT MAPS THAT MAY HELP.
LIKE, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD HELP, UM, TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHERE OUR CONCENTRATION IS AND WHERE WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WE'RE CONCERNED WITH NOT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SHELTERED AS MUCH AS WE'RE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT SHELTERED.
AND IF WE'RE CONSIDERING THE SHELTER PROGRAM AND OTHER THINGS FOR OUR POLICIES, WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE THESE CONCENTRATIONS ARE SO WE KNOW HOW MANY APPROXIMATELY, YOU KNOW, WHERE OUR EFFORTS NEED TO BE FOCUSED IN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
YES, I HAVE THAT, THAT, THAT'S THE KIND OF THING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
UM, OKAY, WE'RE DOING THE VICE CHECK VICE, SO IT NEEDS TO GO DOWN.
UM, THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, I NOW DECLARE THE NOMINATIONS OPEN FOR THE VICE CHAIR OF THE HOMELESS SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
EACH MEMBER MAY NOMINATE ONE PERSON FOR VICE CHAIR, INCLUDING YOURSELF.
THESE NOMINATIONS DO NOT REQUIRE A SECOND.
THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR NOMINATIONS.
I, OKAY, SO, UM, THERE BEING NO FURTHER NOMINATIONS.
I DECLARED THE NOMINATIONS CLOSED.
OH, I INVITE EACH NOMINEE, I INVITE SARAH BRIEFLY SHARE WHY YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE ELECTED VICE CHAIR OR YOU DON'T HAVE TO SHARE
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AND I REALLY FEEL THAT MY BEST PLACE TO CONTRIBUTE AS POLICY COMMITTEE CHAIR.'CAUSE THAT'S MY BACKGROUND AND I KIND OF, I KNOW WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS AND TALENTS AND BACKGROUNDS TO CONTRIBUTE.
SO I KIND OF WANNA GIVE OTHER PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO LEAD IN THIS ROLE.
SO I DO NOT WANT TO BE VICE CHAIR, NOT BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN HONOR, NOT 'CAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE MISSION, BUT BECAUSE I BELIEVE I BEST CONTRIBUTE AND POLICY WANT TO GO BACK? OKAY, SO THE FLOOR IS AGAIN OPEN.
ARE THERE OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR? YES, STEVEN REALIZE THAT, UH, WOULD BE A BAD TIME.
UM, BUT I HAVE, I WAS COACHING MY DAUGHTER AND SO THOSE THINGS HAVE COME TO AN END.
I DO HAVE A LOT MORE TIME MY, ON MY, UH, MY PLATE AND I WOULD LIKE TO DEDICATE MORE TIME TO THIS ORGANIZATION, THIS AND THIS BOARD.
SO I'M HAPPY TO STEP IN AND TAKE ROLE OF VICE CHAIR IF YOU, AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WE WILL REVOTE ON CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR AROUND MID NEXT YEAR.
SO THIS IS BECAUSE THERE WAS A VACANCY VACATE AFTER.
ALRIGHT, SO, UM, YOU DID BOTH THINGS, SO I JUST WANNA VOTE NOW.
SO, UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF STEPHEN WOOD FOR VICE CHAIR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? IS THERE ANY ON COMMITTEE? YES, OF COURSE.
I WOULD LIKE TO BE AND THE MAYORS FILING THE POLICY.
PAT, CAN YOU JUST SEND ME AN EMAIL SO THAT I CAN SEND THAT TO CITY? ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS OR COMMENTS DURING THAT I CALL LAST PUBLIC COMMENT? OH, ANY MEMBERS? YEAH.
UM, BEFORE WE ADJOURN, DID YOU HAVE ANY SUCCESS IN GETTING THE ALBAN THE LIST OF NAMES OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND HOW THEY CAN BE CONTACTED? DO YOU REMEMBER THAT? YEAH, I DO HAVE THAT LIST.
UM, I JUST NEED TO VERIFY WHAT INFORMATION I CAN SHARE DIRECTLY TO YOU.
JUST THEIR NAME, THEIR PHONE CONTACT, THE PHONE.
IT'S ON THE, IT'S ON THE, ON THE DRIVE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE.
WE HAVE OUR, WELL I HAVE THEM PHONE WHEN YOU AND PAUL WE'RE SO NICE TO TRY AND HELP YOU GET ORIENTED.
THAT IT HAS EACH OF OUR NAMES, PHONE, OUR EMAIL.
YEAH, SO IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I WOULD JUST REALLY LIKE TO HAVE IT.
UM, AND THEN THE ONLY BOARD MEMBER THAT WAS ABSENT TODAY WAS LAUREN HILLIARD.
UM, IT WAS AN UNEXCUSED ABSENCE.
UM, YOU DIDN'T REACH OUT TO HIM, BUT HE DID ANSWER.
I BELIEVE THIS IS A FEW MEETINGS THAT HE'S MISSED ALREADY.
YEAH, I, I WILL GO BACK AND DOUBLE CHECK, BUT OKAY.
IN GENERAL, ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK ON NON AGENDA ITEMS? SEEING NONE.