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I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THIS MEETING ORDER ON DECEMBER 15TH AT FIVE.
UH, ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE EVERYONE STAND AND RECITE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IF WE HAVE A FLAG OR COMMISSIONER HUNTER LEEBY PLEDGE.
UM, PLEASE PLACE YOUR RIGHT HAND OVER YOUR HEART.
AND FATHER A NATION, GOD INVIS.
I DON'T AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE ROLE TO HAVE CLERK COMMISSIONER BOBBI PRESENT.
UH, FOR THE RECORD, COMMISSIONER PISO IS EXCUSED FROM THE MEETING.
HE'S SOMEWHERE IN THE CURRENTLY AND A CRUISE SHIP, SO YOU COULD NOT MAKE IT TO THAT.
UM, ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? YEAH.
HOPEFULLY THERE'S NO HURRICANES.
UH, I WOULD LIKE AT THIS TIME TO SWEAR IN OF THE WITNESSES IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
UH, IF YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE TESTIMONY, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE EVIDENCE YOU SHALL GIVE IN THIS CULTURAL HERITAGE COMMISSION MEETING SHALL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU.
MADAM CLERK, PLEASE READ THE FIRST ITEM.
RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE ON FILE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO HEAR? DECIDED SO MOVED.
IS THERE A SECOND? I WILL SECOND.
THE MOTION HAS BEEN APPROVED BY COMMISSIONER ICK AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HUNTER.
I'LL TURN THINGS OVER TO STAFF
SO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING TAILORED THIS EVENING.
UM, I, UH, WANTED TO GIVE YOU ONE UPDATE AND PASS OVER TO MARISSA, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL AND RESOURCE OFFICE FAIR, WHO I KNOW FOLKS HAVE HAD THE CHANCE TO MEET.
WE ARE DELIGHTED TO HAVE HER, UM, COMING INTO THE ROLE HERE AND TAKING OVER, UM, STAFFING OF THIS SUBMISSION.
BUT BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO MARISSA FOR A FEW UPDATES, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE COMMISSIONS, UM, AND THE PUBLIC ARE AWARE, UM, THERE IS AN APPEAL HEARING BEING HOSTED ON THURSDAY IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION REGARDING THE PROPOSAL AT 56 79 COURT OF DE NAPOLI.
THAT WAS AN APPROVAL ORIGINALLY HEARD BY THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR, UM, IN OCTOBER.
AND THE COMMISSION MAY RECALL THAT LAST DECEMBER THERE WAS A SCHEDULED HEARING FOR THIS PROPERTY, UH, THAT WAS CONTINUED TO UPDATE UNCERTAINTY THROUGH THE PUBLIC COMMENTS ABOUT, UH, WHETHER THE PROPERTY COULD BE POTENTIALLY CONSIDERED HISTORIC, UM, THAT THAT WAS ANALYZED IN DETAIL.
AND NOW THE, UM, THE HEARING, UM, HAS COME BACK IN THE ORIGINAL DECISION TO APPROVE THE PROJECT AT THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR LEVEL IS NOW BEING HEARD ON APPEAL AT THE PLANNING CONVENTION.
BUT SINCE THERE WAS AN INTEREST BY THE, UM, HISTORIC COMMUNITY, UM, WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HERE WERE AWARE THAT THAT IS COMING ON APPEAL ON THURSDAY AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE WRITTEN COMMENTS, UM, LEADING UP TO THE MEETING OR TO PROVIDE VERBAL COMMENTS EITHER AFTER HEARING OR VIRTUALLY SIMILAR TO HOW WE DO HYBRID HERE AS WELL.
UH, AT THIS COMMISSIONER I THAT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MARISHA FOR SOME OTHER UPDATE, UH, FRONTING DIRECTORS REPORT BEFORE, BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT, THAT THIS, THE REVEAL IS FOR THE STONER HOUSE, UH, IN NAPLES.
IT'S A MID-CENTURY, UH, BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL HOME.
AND, UM, I KNOW THAT THE PRESERVATION COMMUNITY IS, UH, WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT HOUSE REMAIN, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THOSE OUR HANDS ARE TIED OLD MISSIONARIES.
I HAVE A FEW ITEMS FOR YOU TO SEE THINGS.
AND FIRST IS THAT THE 2026 MILLS ACT CYCLE, WE'LL KICK OFF WHEN JANUARY.
SO APPLICATION MATERIALS WILL BE AVAILABLE ON THE CITY WEBSITE IN EARLY JANUARY.
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TWO WORKSHOPS FOR POTENTIAL APPLICANTS ON SATURDAY, JANUARY 24TH.THAT'LL BE A HYBRID FORMAT OF THE VIRTUAL AND IN PERSON AT THE GEN ZA COMMUNITY CENTER.
UH, AND THEN THE SECOND WORKSHOP ON SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 21ST, THAT'S ENTIRELY VIRTUAL.
UH, AND THEN NEXT, UH, WE'RE PLEASED TO LET THE COMMISSION KNOW THAT THE ADAPTIVE REVIEWS OF THE HISTORIC CALIFORNIA NATIONAL GUARD BUILDING AT SEVENTH TODOS WE NEXT TO GUN PARK, UH, WILL BE IN CONSTRUCTION IN 2026.
SO A LONG VACANT HISTORIC BUILDING THAT'S BEING GIVEN NEW LIFE WITH, UH, 60 ROOM UNITS OF SENIOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPED BY THE LONG BEACH BASED AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPER LIKE HOUSING.
THAT BUILDING WAS BUILT IN 1930.
IT IS A HISTORIC RESOURCE THAT'S SIGNIFICANT FOR ITS ART DEGO ARCHITECTURE AND ALSO FOR ITS ASSOCIATION, UM, WITH THE STATEWIDE MOBILIZATION OF THE NATIONAL GUARD DURING WORLD WAR II.
UH, AND THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT WAS APPROVED IN 2021 UNDER STATE LEGISLATION FOR HOUSING STREAMLINING.
UM, SO IT'S TAKEN A LITTLE BIT TO GET EVERYTHING TOGETHER TO START CONSTRUCTION.
UM, FEBRUARY PLEASED BE THE PROJECT MOVING FORWARD IN THE JOINT GOALS OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE CITY.
AND THE COMMISSION WILL BE SEEING THAT BUILDING IN THE FUTURE.
UM, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONS OF THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY TWO LINK HOUSING IS THAT THEY NOMINATE THE BUILDING BEFORE A LOCAL LANDMARK.
SO THAT WILL BE COMING BEFORE THE PICTURE, A LANDMARK NOMINATION IN THE FUTURE.
AND THEN LAST, UH, FOR THE JANUARY MEETING OF THIS MISSION, WE'LL BE BRINGING FORWARD AN AGENDA ITEM TO DISCUSS AND GET THE COMMISSION'S FEEDBACK, UH, ON OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION GOALS AND WORK PLAN FOR 2026.
SO THAT'S GOING TO INCLUDE, UM, OPPORTUNITIES RELATED TO UPDATES TO THE ZA PROGRAM, UH, UPDATES TO THE HISTORIC CONTENT STATEMENT, UH, AND THEN THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR TRAININGS FOR CULTURAL HERITAGE.
LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT AS WELL.
THAT CONCLUDES YOUR REPORT, RIGHT? COMMISSION.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING DIRECTOR'S REPORT? I HAVE A QUESTION.
COMMISSIONER EZ, I JUST WANTED TO ASK IF THERE IS ANY CONFLICT WITH ANY COMMISSIONERS OF CITIZENS OF OUR COMMUNITY SUBMITTING LETTERS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION REGARDING THE REVIEW OF THE STONER HOUSE, IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE FOR US TO DO AS
UM, NOT IN YOUR CAPACITY AS A CULTURAL CARE COMMISSIONER, SO WE WOULD JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT FAIR.
UM, SO WITH WANT BE EXPLAINING THAT YOU'RE DOING THIS IN YOUR CAPACITY AS A COMMISSIONER, IT'S REALLY LOOKING YOUR CAPACITY AS A RESIDENT OF LONG BEACH.
SO LEAVE THE COMMISSIONER I WEBSITE.
YEAH, MOSTLY WE EXPLAIN THAT OR JUST SAY NOPE.
JUST DON'T IDENTIFY YOURSELF OUTTA
IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSION, UH, COMMISSIONER PRYOR, UM, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THE MILLS ACT THAT YOU SAID THERE'S TWO MILLS ACT, UM, TRAININGS OR TRAININGS, BUT WORKSHOPS.
UM, IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE STAFF PUT THOSE ON OUR CALENDARS OR SOUNDS LIKE THEY HAVE A CALENDAR? ANYTHING ASK WE CAN WORK TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ALL THOSE DETAILS.
WE HAVE TO GET THE LOGISTICS OF GROUP CALENDARS, UM, BUT WE DO MAKE SURE AND THEN IF, IF PEOPLE ARE GONNA PARTICIPATE, UM, JUST LETTING STAFF KNOW AS WOULD BE HELPFUL.
SO WE, IN TERMS OF THE CONVERSATION, BUT YEAH, HAPPY TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE BOTH YOU THOUGH, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
AND BASED ON LAST YEAR'S, UH, TURNOUT, IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.
WE APPRECIATED THIS COLLABORATION
UM, BUT ONCE WE GET ALL THE CAPITAL INFORMATION OUT LATER, WOULD I TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER ONE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND SEEING NONE IN PERSON, SPEAK VIRTUALLY.
IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE USE THAT RAISE HAND FEATURE.
IF DIAL AND TELEPHONICALLY PLEASE PRESS STAR NINE.
THERE APPEARS TO BE, UH, NO ONE'S PROVIDING PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME.
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THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM YOUR COMMISSION.UH, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL FROM VOTE.
COMMISSIONER BARILLA PEREZ? YES.
THANK YOU MADAM CLERK, PLEASE, UH, READ ITEM NUMBER TWO.
RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE CULTURAL HERITAGE COMMISSION MEETING OF TUESDAY, OCTOBER 28TH, 2025.
AT THIS TIME WE HAVE A MOTION
UM, AT THIS TIME ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING THE MINUTES FROM OCTOBER 28TH, 2025? IF THERE ARE NO, ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC VIRTUALLY? IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE USE A RAISE HAND, RAISE HAND FEATURE.
NOW, IF DIVING IN TELEPHONICALLY, PRESS STAR NINE NOW.
SEEING NONE, THAT CONCLUDES OF THE COMMENT SIDE.
UM, AT THIS TIME THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.
MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL FOR THE VOTE.
MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE.
UM, BEFORE WE PROCEED, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE COMMISSIONER PEREZ RECUSE HERSELF AT THIS TIME, CAN WE JUST PROVIDE YOUR BASIS ALL RECORD FOR THOSE PLEASE? YES, I AM RECUSING MYSELF JUST TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE BROWN ACT, UM, AND ENSURE THAT THE APPLICANT RECEIVES AN UNBIASED DECISION.
UM, I DO KNOW, UH, HAVE A CLOSE PERSONAL AND BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP, UH, WITH INDIVIDUALS THAT THE APPLICANT'S ARCHITECT WORKS WITH ON A REGULAR BASIS.
SO I AM RECUSING MYSELF FOR THAT.
WE CAN AND CLERK, PLEASE READ ITEM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE THROUGH YOUR AGREE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE A MAJOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS REQUESTS TO ALLOW
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE BLUFF HEIGHTS HISTORIC DISTRICT IS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE AND IS LOCATED IN THE R TWO A ZONING DISTRICT, DISTRICT TWO.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION APPROVE VICE CHAIR THIS? ANY QUESTION? MOTION CHAIR HERE AND THERE.
THERE'S NO MOTION BY VICE CHAIR
UM, BEFORE YOU
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS NOTED ON THE SIDE TO THE RED STAR.
UM, THIS SITE IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF AVENUE AND BETWEEN EAST THIRD STREET,
IT WAS DEVELOPED IN 1910 WITH A TWO STORY 1,817 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE FAMILY DRAWING AND ATTACHED SINGLE CAR GARAGE AND A CROSSFIT ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.
THE SINGLE FAMILY DRAWING IS CONSIDERED A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE WITHIN GU HEIGHT'S.
HISTORIC DISTRICT IS LOCATED IN THE R TWO A ZONING DISTRICT AND IS LOCATED IN THE FOUNDING CONTEMPORARY
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IS ALSO LOCATED WITHIN AB 2097 AND IS NOT WITH PROJECT TWO PIPE PARKING FOR NEW PROJECTS.THE PROJECT ALSO INVOLVES THE DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING SINGLE CAR GARAGE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF TWO 1,150 SQUARE FOOT TWO STORY EDUS IN THE REAR.
THE EDUS WERE SUBMITTED AS A SEPARATE MINOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS AND ARE APPROVED TO ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE DUE TO STATE LEGISLATION.
THE COMMISSIONER'S REVIEW AND DECISION FOR THIS PROJECT IS ONLY FOR THE NEW 800 SQUARE FOOT PRIMARY UNIT.
ADDITION TO THE HISTORIC HOME BESIDE DISPLAYS THE EXISTING SITE LAYOUT OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WITH THE PROPERTY LINES HIGHLIGHTED IN RED, YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING 1,817 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE FAMILY D DRAWING AND DETACHED GARAGE.
HERE ARE THE CODE CONDITIONS OF THE CRAFTSMEN SEEN WITH NO DWELLING AS VIEWED FROM MID AVENUE.
THE PHOTOS DEPICT THE EXTERIOR WOOD SIDING OF THE HOME AND OPEN GABLE ROOF LINE WIDE OVERHANGING EASE AND PROJECTING PORCH.
AS A PART OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT AND THE MILLS ACT CONTRACT, THE SECOND FLOOR VERTICAL SIDING ON THE FRONT ELEVATION WILL BE REPAIRED AND RESTORED TO ITS ORIGINAL HORIZONTAL SIDING.
IN ADDITION, FAMILIAR WINDOW RELEASE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE WILL BE REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH COMPATIBLE WITH WINDOWS.
THE PROJECT'S CONDITIONS AND APPROVAL WILL ALSO REQUIRE THE REMOVAL OF NON-ORIGINAL WINDOWS SHUTTERS SHOWN ON THE
THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES OF THE FRONT OF THE D DRAWING EXTEND TO THE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
THESE INCLUDE THE HORIZONTAL WOOD SIDING, DEEP
THE WINDOWS CONSIST OF A MIX OF DOUBLE LONG FIX AND TRIPARTITE STYLES, WHICH ARE CHARACTERISTICS OF ACROSS.
IN THIS SLIDE, YOU'LL FIND A SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON OF THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED SITE PLANS HIGHLIGHTING THE PROPOSED 800 SQUARE FOOT UNIT ADDITION IN BREADTH.
IN ADDITION, OVER 250 SQUARE FEET OR UNIT
THE NEW UNIT COMPLIES WITH R TWO A DOLLAR STANDARDS INCLUDING SETBACKS, BLOCK COVERAGE, FLOOR AREA RATIO, OPEN SPACE, ANYTHING IN THIS SLIDE YOU'LL SEE THE PROPOSED ROOF PLAN.
THE EXISTING ROOF LINE WILL REMAIN AND THE NEW SINGLE STORY UNIT ADDITION WILL MAINTAIN THE OPEN UNITS.
HERE YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED FLOOR PLAN FOR THE NEW UNIT AND THE EXISTING TWO STORY SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING THE UNIT.
THE NEW UNIT WILL CONTAIN THREE BEDROOMS, TWO BATHROOMS, HOW MANY AREAS AND ANY UNIT LAUNDRY.
THIS SLIDESHOW SHOWS THE PROPOSED FRONT AND REAR ELEVATIONS.
THE REAR ADDITION IS LOCATED ON THE HE ELEVATION SHOWN ON THE RIGHT.
IT IS FULLY CONCEALED BY BY THE EXISTING TWO STORY SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING, UM, FROM PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AND DESIGNED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH AND CARING FOR THE CROSSMAN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.
THROUGHOUT THE ADDITION, THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE ELEVATIONS.
THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING HAS A HEIGHT OF 24 FEET, WHILE THE PROPOSED NEW UNIT HAS A HEIGHT OF 13 FEET AND HISTORIC DISTRICTS ADDITIONS ARE ENCOURAGED TO BE MINIMALLY VISIBLE FROM THE PUBLIC DRIVEWAY SUPPORT OF IT IN SIZE TO THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AND NOT WIDE THAN THE ORIGINAL BUILDING DOOR.
THE PROPOSED UNIT MEETS THESE GUIDELINES BY REMAINING LOWER HEIGHT BEING MINIMALLY VISIBLE FROM THE PUBLIC DRIVEWAY AND MAINTAINING EXISTING SETBACKS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE RQA ZONING DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
THE ADDITION WILL INCORPORATE CROSSMAN MODEL HOME SIDING AND WILL NOT EXTEND THE USE OF THE COMMON RED RED BRICK ALLOWING THE ADDITION TO REMAIN DIFFERENTIATED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS.
WINDOWS WILL BE WOOD AND CRAFTED INCOMPATIBLE ALONG WITH, UM, OTHER EXTERIOR ELEMENTS SUCH AS DOORS AND LIGHT AS PROPOSED AND COMMISSIONED.
THE PROPOSED BEER UNIT ADDITION WILL NOT DETRACT FROM THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THE EXISTING BUILDING ON SITE.
THE PROPOSED ADDITION WILL BE CONSISTENT AND IN FULL CONFINES WITH THE CITY'S RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR THE R TWO A ZONING DISTRICT, THE BLUFF HEIGHTS HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGN GUIDELINES, SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS, AND THE BLUFF HEIGHTS HISTORIC DISTRICT ORDINANCE, THE CROSSFIT STYLE GUIDE AND CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FINDINGS, NOTICING OF THE HEARING WAS COMPLETED IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2121 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE.
AND AS OF THE STATE, UH, STAFF RECEIVED ONE FORMAL LETTER IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED PRIOR WITH THE FORM MENTIONED FINDINGS.
ALL THE MEETING AFFIRMATIVE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATE REQUEST SUBJECT TO THE COMMISSION OF APPROVAL.
THIS CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION STAFF AND APPLICANT CHING YOUNG AND JOSH ALVAREZ ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.
BEFORE WE OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS, WOULD THE APPLICANT
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LIKE TO ADDRESS THE STAFF REPORT STAFF? UH, MS. VERY WELL DONE.I APPRECIATE THE TIME, EFFORT WE SPENT ON IT, UM, AND THE FEEDBACK THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS SOME BACK AND FORTH WITH JOSH ON ARCHITECTURAL SIDE AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAINTAIN THE HISTORIC ATTRIBUTES AND ALSO MAINTAIN WHAT WE WANTED TO, TO BUILD OUT THERE.
AND JUST, JUST FOR THE RECORD, YOUR NAME AND SHANE.
AND YOU'RE INVOLVED WITH THAT'S RIGHT.
AND ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS? I I DON'T MOVE WRAP PUBLIC COMMENT.
SO, SO AT THIS TIME, UH, BACK TO THE COMMISSION.
ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE ITEM OF GENERAL? I THINK WE'RE THE KEEPER QUESTION ON STAFF REPORT, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND DID HAVE A QUESTION OF, UH, THIS IS, UH, COMMISSIONER PRIOR, UH, THE STAFF REPORT, UM, CAN'T REMEMBER SLIDE IT WAS ON, BUT IT WAS TALKING ABOUT THE, THAT IT'S, IT IS CONGRUENT WITH YOU PARKING CONSIDERATIONS OR NOT CONSIDERATIONS, RIGHT? THIS THE 29 7? I THINK SO, YES.
SO THEN THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE LOCATED WITHIN 80 29 7.
SO IF I
UH, VICE CHAIR
AS WE START MOVING INTO THESE INCREASINGLY MORE ADU IN HISTORIC ZONES, UM, WE HAVE THE ADU CAN BE SECOND TWO STORY.
THEY CAN BE ABOVE HIGHLY VISIBLE OR ABOVE ONE STORY OR IN THIS CASE IT, UM, POLICY WISE, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE VIEW A SECOND STORY ON A HIS, ON A SINGLE STORY HISTORICAL CALL VERSUS SOMETHING LIKE THIS? DOES THE CITY KIND OF DO THAT? I KNOW IT'S A STATE, IT'S A STATE REQUIREMENT.
IS THAT JUST GONNA BE THE ANSWER OR WE HAVE SOMETHING.
SO, UM, IS THIS CASE WE HAVE THE A THAT ARE ALREADY CONSIDERED A GROUP.
SO IT THE ADDITION THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU RIGHT.
UM, WE DO CONTINUE TO REVIEW HCD GUIDANCE ON SORT OF HOW TO NAVIGATE PROJECTS WITH, UM, THE CONFLUENCE OF SOME A U COMPONENTS ON NON, OF COURSE WE, UM, TO THE EXTENT WE CAN, WOULD ENCOURAGE AN APPLICANT TO MINIMIZE VISIBILITY FROM THE STREET AND FOLLOW OUR DESIGN GUIDELINES, BUT WE CAN'T MANDATE THAT.
UM, UM, AND SO WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT, UM, JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE STARTING TO BE MORE LIKE, UM, UH, DETAILED GUIDANCE OR OBJECTIVE STANDARDS TO HELP GUIDE.
UM, BUT IF THEY ARE WITHIN THEIR RIGHT UNDER THE STATE LAW, WE'D HAVE TO CONTINUE TO APPROVE, UM, PROJECTS AT VIRTUAL, UH, THAT
YOU SEE THIS AS A, A NATURAL CONSEQUENCE OF OF THAT LAW
FOR NON A U BUILDINGS FORMALLY WE HAVEN'T UPDATED OUR GUIDANCE THAT WAY AND I DID THAT FOR US.
IT HAS DONE A CLEAR DELINEATION OF KIND OF WHAT IS, UM, UNDER STATE LAW RELATED TO ADUS.
YEAH, THERE ARE SOME GRAY AREAS THAT HAPPEN.
'CAUSE WHAT IF YOU'RE DOING A SECOND STORY? A DU WHAT THE GROUND FLOOR IS GARAGE, FOR EXAMPLE.
RIGHT? I KNOW WE'VE SEEN SECOND STORY
SO IT'S NOT A A NO, IT IS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT OUR SENSIBILITIES ARE.
IT WILL BE SOMETHING WE LOOK AT MORE CLOSELY IN THE WORK PROGRAM IN THE COMING YEAR BECAUSE IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, THE DESIGN GUIDELINES OVERALL WERE DEVELOPED RIGHT BEFORE SD THREE 30 AND, AND SOME OF THE MORE RECENT LEGISLATION AROUND HOW WE PROCESS HOUSING PROJECTS CAME OUT.
WE DO HAVE TO HAVE OBJECTIVE STANDARDS.
UM, AND SO MAKE SURE WE'RE FOLLOWING THAT PROCESS.
UM, WE'RE HAVING TO TALK ABOUT THAT IN MORE DETAIL, THE FUTURE, MAKE SURE WE'RE STAYING IN THE BALANCE OF EXPERIENCE.
I JUST SAID WE'RE SEEING MORE OF THIS.
I JUST WANTED TO SEE, BUT THIS ONE WAS PRETTY WELL HIDDEN BY THE YEAH.
THE SET, THE TWO STORY EXISTING.
SO, UM, LOOK AT BRINGING BACK AS MISSION TYPE ITEM.
IS THIS ALSO MAYBE OF PINTEREST TO THE PUBLIC? RIGHT.
THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT TO
SO MILLS ACT CONTRACT APPLIES TO THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.
THE SPECIFICS OF THE PROPERTY TAX, WE ASSESSMENT
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ARE DONE BY THE COUNTY ASSESSOR AND THEY DO LOOK AT NEW IMPROVEMENTS ON THE PROPERTY.UH, AS PART OF THE CALCULATION FOR THE PROPERTY TAXES, THEY, THAT CONTRACT, SO THERE, THERE'S NO CONFLICT OR WE HAVE STATUTES THAT SAYS THAT'S NOT PART OF THEM.
WHO MILLS THAT CONTRACT TO THE CITY THEN MILLS THAT
SO THERE ARE SIMILAR TO THE, UH, CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS SUPPORTIVE MISSION THIS EVENING, THERE ARE FINDINGS THAT BE MADE RELATED TO THE MILL ACT CONTRACT THAT IT MEETS THE SECRETARY STANDARDS.
UM, BUT THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE CERTIFIC BUSINESS.
THIS PROJECT COMES IN FRONT OF US AND WE HAVE NO SAY ON THE A DU IN TERMS OF THE DESIGN, THE, THE FEATURES ASSOCIATED WITH IT, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF CONTRIBUTING TO THE, THE FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITY.
UM, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO KIND OF ADDRESS IN THE FUTURE? I THINK WE WERE REMAIN BOUND BY STATE LEGISLATION RELATIVE
IS THERE CONTACT ON THIS PROPERTY? YEAH,
SO DO THINK IT IS A BALANCE BETWEEN WHAT'S REQUIRED BY STATE LEGISLATION TO BE APPROVED IN TERMS OF MEETING NEWS AND ALTERNATIVE IN TERMS OF MEETING NEWS AND THE, UM, PRESERVATION GOALS OF THE WELL SECTION CONTRACT.
IS THERE A SLIGHT ADDITION TO THE MAIN HOUSE THROUGH THE REMOVAL OF THE PORCH AND SQUARING OFF THE MAIN HOUSE? THERE? THERE IS, THERE'S, YEAH, WE'RE EXPANDING THE BATHROOM.
NICK CURRENT STAIRS IS LIKE A HALF BATH, SO WE'RE EXPANDING INTO A BATH.
AND IF YOU COULD GO BACK IN ONE SLIDE, EXCUSE ME ONE MORE SLIDE.
WHAT IS THAT LITTLE ALCOVE BETWEEN THE, UM, AS PART OF THE EXISTING BUILDING ON THE LEFT TOP LEFT AND THE ADDITION ON THE RIGHT THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOT A STAIRCASE OR SOMETHING.
THAT'S THE ACCESS TO THE REAR GUARD FROM THE MAIN ENTRANCE FROM THE MAIN HOUSE.
SO YOU'RE ABLE TO GO TO THE BACKYARD FROM, FROM THERE AND YOU STEP DOWN INTO THE BACKYARD.
AND THAT'S EXISTING, THAT'S EXISTING CONDITION.
I'M, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME READING THAT.
DO YOU HAVE EXISTING, OKAY, SO THAT'S A LITTLE COVERED PORCH, RIGHT.
COVERED BY THE UPSTAIRS OF THE MINI EXISTING BAR, UH, UNIT.
IT COVERED BY THE EXISTING UNIT AND ALSO BY PEDIATRICIAN ON THE ROOF ON.
SO THE DIFFERENTIATION THAT YOU HAVE THAT IS PROPOSED IS REALLY JUST THE RED BRICK, RIGHT.
AND HIKES AND THE HEIGHT AND THE, UM, IT IS, UH, HORIZONTAL WOOD.
ANY QUESTION? IF THERE ARE NONE, WHAT'S MOVE, UH, TO OPENING UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? THANK YOU, UH, FOR THE RECORD, YOUR NAME, SORRY.
GIVEN MY, UH, HEARING DIFFICULTY, UH, BUT I'LL DO MY BEST.
UM, I AM THE LONG TIME OWNER OF THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THIS PROJECT, UH, AT TWO SIX OH ERO AVENUE.
UM, I HAVE BEEN THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY, UM, UH, SINCE, UH, 79.
UM, ARE, AND I KNEW THE PREVIOUS OWNERS, UM, QUITE WELL AT THE TIME.
I HAVE DEVELOPED MY PROPERTY, UH, WHICH INCLUDES A DECK AND AN OPEN MASTER BEDROOM ONTO
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THE DECK.THE PROPOSED ALTERATIONS OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY WOULD LITERALLY EXPOSE MY MASTER BEDROOM TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.
AND, UH, I'M HERE TO REPRESENT, UH, MY, MY MYSELF AT THE TIME.
BUT THIS WOULD NEGATIVELY NOT ONLY AFFECT MY PRESENT LIFE, IT WOULD AFFECT THE, THE VALUE OF MY PROPERTY IMMENSELY TO EXPOSE ITS MESS THE BEDROOM TO ALL THE WINDOWS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED ALONG THE WHOLE SIDE OF MY PROPERTY.
UH, WHICH WOULD LITERALLY EXPOSED MY, MY, MY, MYSELF, UH, TO, TO THE VISION OF THE PROPERTY AND AFFECT IMMENSELY, NOT ONLY ME, BUT THE VALUE OF MY PROPERTY AND ALL.
AND, UH, AND I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THAT, UH, MYSELF AT THIS TIME.
BUT THIS IS THE MOST SERIOUS MATTER TO, TO ME, UH, NOT ONLY IN TERMS OF MY PRESENT LIVING CONDITION, BUT ALSO THE VALUE OF MY PROPERTY, UH, WHICH I HAVE INVESTED, UH, TREMENDOUSLY IN, UH, SINCE PURCHASING IT.
UM, SO I, UH, CANNOT MORE VOCIFEROUSLY, UH, UH, APPEAL TO YOU, UH, UH, IN THE JUDGMENT OF THIS PROJECT, UH, AND THE NEGATIVE EFFECT THAT IT WOULD HAVE, UH, BOTH ON PERSONALLY AND MONETARY.
SIR, FOR THE RECORD, COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE? I, I'M SORRY.
I, I YOU STATE YOUR NAME, STATE YOUR NAME.
UH, MY NAME IS CARL, CARL DANSON, D-A-N-S-O-N.
I LIVE AT TWO WIND AVENUE AND HAVE ACTUALLY, UH, UH, BEEN IN POSSESSION OF THAT PROPERTY SINCE 1978.
UM, AND SO I, UM, AND I HAVE A HISTORICAL CONNECTION WITH THE CITY IN TERMS OF I'M A LONG TIME RESIDENT AND, UH, TEACHER AT CAL STATE.
ARE THERE ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD MAKE TO LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS AGENDA? ITEM THAT VIRTUALLY, IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FEATURE.
IF ELECTRONICALLY, PRESS STAR NINE NOW.
UH, SEEING NONE THAT INCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.
COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF? IF THERE ARE NONE, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE.
I, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONE MORE THING.
I, I WOULD HOPE THAT MR. DANSON AND THAT WE, WE ARE, AS THE CITY COMMUNICATES TO THEM, THAT THIS IS OUT OF OUR HANDS.
UM, AS MUCH AS WE WOULD LOVE TO HELP 'EM, AND I'M SURE THAT THESE GUYS SAYS GOOD FAVOR, THEIR BEST TO, UH, TRY TO, YOU KNOW, MITIGATE THE ENCROACHMENT ON HIS PROPERTY.
UH, IT'S, IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT WE IS, IS WITHIN OUR SCOPE OF ABILITY TO DO ANYTHING.
UM, SO I FEEL FOR HIM AND I, AND I JUST HOPE THAT YOU KNOW, GOOD NEIGHBOR PAUL, SO YOU GUYS WILL DO YOUR BEST TO ACCOMMODATE HIS NEEDS, BUT, AND I JUST HOPE THAT HE UNDERSTANDS THAT THAT'S HARD TO, TO COMMUNICATE THAT, THAT, BUT I HOPE THAT HE GETS THAT MESSAGE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THE STAFF? NO, I WOULD
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ECHO THAT.AND THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT NEIGHBORS HAVE VOICED THEIR CONCERN OVER THE, THE A DU CONCEPT, PARTICULARLY THE INVASION OF PRIVACY.
AND, UH, UNFORTUNATELY OUR HANDS ARE TIED, AS MY COLLEAGUE HAS ALLUDED TO.
AND AGAIN, I HOPE THAT, UH, THIS WILL NOT JEOPARDIZE THE, THE GOOD NEIGHBORLY COMPONENT TO THE BLUFF PARK BLUFF HEIGHTS DISTRICT.
UM, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS AT THIS TIME, MAD AND CLERK, CAN WE CALL FOR THE VOTE? COMMISSIONER BODA? YES.
CAN WE GO RETREAT? COMMISSIONER
AS, UH, LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE A NICE ADDITION.
IT'S GONNA HELP US KEEP IT FAN TOO.
GRANDMA AND GRANDPA USED TO LIVE THERE.
MY MOM'S ONE OF SEVEN AND SHE AND I BUY OUT THE OTHER SIX SIBLINGS.
UM, BUT I WILL BRING BACK TO WHO THREATS.
I SHOULD CALL YOU OR CALL BACK.
THANK YOU FOR THE RECORD THAT WHAT WE'LL LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER ILLA PEREZ IS BACK IN THE JAMIE BOND.
UM, MOVING ON TO THE AGENDA ITEM FOR CHAIR, VICE CHAIR ELECTIONS.
PLEASE USE THE ELECTION OR OFFICER SCRIPT, PROCEED WITH ELECTIONS THERE.
SO CHAIR IS ANNOUNCED RELATIVELY NEW.
THE MEETING THAT THE CHAIR-ELECT, VICE CHAIR TURN WILL BEGIN AT THE NEXT MEETING FOR THE CHAIR.
YEAH, YOU HAVE THE, THE AUDIENCE.
YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE NEXT MEETING.
NO, UM, THIS WILL BE, THIS WILL TAKE PLACE.
THE NEW SLATE WILL BE PLACED AT THE NEXT OH.
SO IF YOU CAN PLEASE READ, UH, A FOR ME CHAIR TO DECLARE THE NOMINATIONS OPEN.
I DECLARE THAT THE NOMINATION OPEN FOR THE CHAIR OF THE CO INHERITANCE COMMISSION.
EACH MEMBER MAY NOMINATE ONE PERSON FOR CHAIR, INCLUDING YOURSELF.
ANY NOMINATIONS DO NOT REQUIRE A SECOND.
YOU MAY NOMINATE YOUR FUNCTIONAL.
SO IS THERE AN ORDER TO THIS OR CAN I SAY I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, NOMINATE OUR CHAIR, KEVIN WAN TO CONTINUE HIS SERVICE.
REQUIRED TO THE NOMINATION THAT I ACCEPT THE, THE NOMINATION BEING THAT THERE ARE NO FURTHER NOMINATION, LIKE DECLARE THE NOMINATION FOR THE CALL NOMINEE.
THEN I DECLARE THAT THE NOMINATION FOR CHAIR CLOSE.
DO WE NEED TO WE NEED TO VOTE.
SO WE NEED, UM, IN THE ORDER NOMINATED, I INVITE EACH NOMINEE TO BRIEFLY SHARE WHY YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE ELECTED FOR CHAIR, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THAT.
UM,
WELL, YES, I WILL BE HONORED TO, UH, BE THE CHAIR OF THE CULTURAL HERITAGE COMMISSION.
AND I JOY THE, WHAT WE DO TO THE COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF CULTURAL, UM, PRESERVATION.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING OUR SERVICE TO THE CITY AND WORKING WITH A FANTASTIC, UH, CITY UH, ADMINISTRATION.
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COLD VOTER CONFIDENCE.SHOULD WE TAKE A VOTE ON THE CHAIR? YES.
VOTE FOR CHAIR FOR CHAIR WAN TO CONTINUE AS CHAIR.
OUR, OUR NEXT, UH, ITEM IS THE VICE CHAIR OPEN FOR NOMINATIONS.
YOU ACCEPT THE NOMINATION? I ACCEPT THE NOMINATION.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE GONE A LOT.
AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I LIKE CRUISES, BUT YOU KNOW, AT, AT THIS TIME I, I ENJOY WORKING WITH, UH, MY VICE CHAIR.
AND, UH, AT SOME POINT I HOPE THAT YOU WILL BECOME CHAIR.
UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATION? IS THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? IF THERE ARE NO OTHER NOMINATIONS, I DECLARE THE NOMINATION CLOSED.
AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE NOMINEE TO SAY A FEW WORDS.
UM, SO ALSO AN HONOR FOR ME, UH, I WAS ABLE TO RUN ONE MEETING LAST TIME AND I, AND I, THAT WAS, I ENJOYED IT.
EVERYBODY WAS, THE STAFF WAS GREAT PREPARED.
UM, I THINK I'M THE, I MIGHT THE ONLY ARCHITECTS LICENSE OPTICS, I COME ON BOARD, SO IT'S PROBABLY A PLUS.
UM, AND, UH, I'M GLAD, I APPRECIATE DOING, DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING AND, UH, SO I APPRECIATE THE AUTOMATION.
OKAY, WE'D LIKE TO CALL FOR THE VOTE.
AT THIS TIME WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, ANY ITEMS THAT ARE NON AGENDA ITEMS, WOULD THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK? IF ANYONE HERE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON NON AGENDA, PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND, UH, VIRTUALLY.
IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A NON AGENDAS ITEM, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FEATURE.
NOW, IF DIAL IN TELEPHONICALLY, PRESS STAR NINE.
C NONE THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMP.
UM, ONE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE TONIGHT.
UM, WE RECENTLY HAD A, UM, CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING CELEBRATION WITH THE MAYOR AND THEY INVITED THE COMMISSIONERS FROM ALL VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS TO ATTEND.
AND THE ONE THING THAT, UM, I I, THE FEEDBACK THAT I GOT BACK, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, IT WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED.
AND SECOND IS THAT, UH, MAYBE WE TAKE IT FOR GRANTED, BUT, UH, MAYOR RICHARDSON WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND ONE OF OUR MEETINGS IN THE FUTURE AS A, OR NOT A PARTICIPANT, BUT AS, UM, JUST TO SEE WHAT WE DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE STAFF COULD WORK WITH IN TERMS OF PUTTING ON AGENDA FOR SOMETHING THAT IS NOT TOO CONTROVERSIAL, BUT YET, UH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SHOWS US WHAT WE CAN DO, UH, FOR THE CITY.
SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING MOVING FORWARD.
AND THEN, UM, ANY ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONER ANY OTHER THAN WISHING EVERYONE A VERY HAPPY MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR'S AND THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR HELP AND SERVICING ON THIS COMMISSION THIS YEAR.
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CIRCLING BACK IN THE COMING NEW YEAR.
IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO DECLARE THIS MEETING ADJOURNED.