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[CALL TO ORDER]

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I HAD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING OF THE INAUGURAL INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE MEETING TO ORDER.

[ROLL CALL]

ROLL CALL PLEASE.

CHAIR AUSTIN.

MEMBER PARKIN.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A QUORUM.

OKAY.

[1. 25-57247 Recommendation to receive and file a report on the Long Beach Public Utilities Department’s non-operational properties.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO RECEIVE A REPORT, UM, ON THE LONG BEACH UTILITIES DEPARTMENT'S NON-OPERATIONAL PROPERTIES.

UM, DO I HAVE A FIRST, HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.

SECOND, UH, I'D LIKE TO CALL ON MR. ROBERT BURES.

GOOD MORNING, CHAIR, AUSTIN.

GOOD MORNING.

UH, COMMISSIONER PARK.

SO FOR THIS PRESENTATION, UM, THE HOPE WAS TO PROVIDE THE COMMISSION, THE, THE COMMITTEE, UM, KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF OUR NON-OPERATIONAL PROPERTIES.

AND THE OBJECTIVE AS PART OF THIS OVERVIEW IS TO PROVIDE YOU WITH INFORMATION AS WE MARCH TOWARDS A GOAL OF MAKING THE DECISION ABOUT CAMPUS ALIGNMENT.

UM, WE WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU RELEVANT INFORMATION SO THAT, UM, IT CAN BE PART OF THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS WHEN WE GET DOWN THAT PATH.

SO THIS WILL BE A, A, A JOINT PRESENTATION, UM, AND WE WANT IT TO BE CONVERSATIONAL.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS DURING THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO, YOU KNOW, STOP US AND, AND ENGAGE IN CONVERSATION.

I'M GONNA HAVE ROB, UM, TALK ON ALL THE TECHNICAL DETAILS AND THEN WE CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS TOGETHER.

WITH THAT, I'M GONNA HAND IT BACK OVER TO ROB.

GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AUSTIN, AND GOOD MORNING.

MEMBER PARKIN, PROBABLY WONDERING WHY AN ENGINEER IS PROVIDING THIS PRESENTATION.

UM, REAL PROPERTY MANAGEMENT IS ACTUALLY HOUSED UNDER THE WATER AND SEWER ENGINEERING BUREAU, SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TODAY.

SO, TO START OFF BY GIVING A VERY HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE PROPERTIES TO BE DISCUSS THIS MORNING.

UH, FIRST OFF, THERE'S THE AUSTRALIA TOWER LOCATED OUR J AT OUR JAY WILL JOHNSON RESERVOIR, AND I'LL GO INTO MORE DETAILS IN SUBSEQUENT SLIDES.

UH, WE HAVE THE AMERICAN TOWER AT OUR 32ND STREET BOOSTER STATION.

WE HAVE THE 32ND STREET AND ST.

LE LOUIS AVENUE PROPERTY.

UH, THEN THERE'S THE LONG BEACH FLEET PROPERTY OFF OF, UH, 2,600 TEMPLE AVENUE.

WE HAVE THE DAWN TEMPLE STORAGE AT 37 50 EAST SPRING STREET, KILROY PARKING LOT.

AND LASTLY, WE HAVE THE ALAMEDAS HILL TOWER AT OUR ALAMEDAS RESIDE.

SO, UH, WE ESSENTIALLY GROUP THE PROPERTIES ACCORDING TO GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATIONS.

SO I'M GONNA START OFF WITH THE AIRPORT AREA PROPERTIES.

SO THERE ARE FOUR PROPERTIES, UM, IN QUESTION.

THERE'S THE DON TEMPLE STORAGE NUMBER ONE, UH, WE HAVE THE KILROY AIRPORT CENTER PARKING LOT.

UH, THE THIRD PROPERTY IS PARCEL NINE, WHICH, UH, BELONGS TO THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT, AND WE HAVE PARCEL NUMBER 10 THAT BELONGS TO THE AIRPORT.

NOW SOME OF THE FUTURE POTENTIAL AND DISCUSSION ITEMS FOR THESE PROPERTIES.

PROPERTY ONE, UM, HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS POTENTIAL REDEVELOPMENT FOR THE, UH, UTILITIES CAMPUS REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT.

UH, PROPERTY TWO, THE KROY PARKING LOT, UH, IS EITHER A UTILITY OPERATION EXCHANGE OR SALE TO THE AIRPORT FOR PROPERTY FOUR.

SO ESSENTIALLY A LAND SWAP.

UH, LASTLY, PROPERTY THREE, UH, IS CURRENTLY IN USE BY FLEET FOR TEMPORARY VEHICLE STORAGE, BUT THAT PROPERTY HAS ALSO BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A POTENTIAL FOR BEING PART OF THE LWD CAMPUS REDEVELOPMENT.

SO DON TEMPLE STORAGE, UM, THE IS 3 7 50 SPRING STREET.

UH, THE LEASE ORIGINATE ORIGINATION WAS NOVEMBER 1ST, 1984.

SO DON TEMPLE HAS BEEN ONE OF OUR CUSTOMERS FOR OVER 40 YEARS NOW.

UH, THE LEASE EXPIRES IN DECEMBER 1ST, 2030, AND OUR ANNUAL REVENUE FOR THIS PROPERTY IS JUST UNDER $600,000.

UH, TYPE OF INCREASE.

IT'S EITHER A CPI OR 3%.

SO THAT 3% IS ACTUALLY THE FLOOR.

UM, CPI, IF IT'S HIRED, THEN WE'LL GET WITH CPI.

ROBERT, DIDN'T WE JUST RENEGOTIATE THIS

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LEASE? WASN'T JUST YES, DID, UH, IT CAME BEFORE THE BOARD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO, I BELIEVE.

UM, SO THE ACREAGE, UH, 4.4 ACRES FOR THIS PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, AND 1.07, UH, FOR THIS PORTION.

NOW, THE UPPER PORTION BELONGS TO THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT, AND THE LOWER PORTION BELONGS TO THE AIRPORT.

SO AS PART OF THE MONTHLY LEASE, THERE'S AN 80 20 SPLIT.

UH, 80% GOES TO UTILITIES AND 20% GOES TO THE AIRPORT.

UH, CURRENT USE, IT'S CURRENTLY USED AS STORAGE, UH, RVS, VEHICLES AND STORAGE CONTAINERS.

UH, THE RENEWAL TERMS, IT'S A FIVE YEAR EXTENSION, UH, THAT HAPPENED ON NOVEMBER 20TH OF THIS YEAR, AND THERE'S A 180 DAY, UH, TERMINATION CLAUSE, TERMINATION NOTICE IF WE WERE TO TERMINATE THE LEASE AGREEMENT.

UH, IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN, THIS PORTION OF THE TEMPLE STORAGE, UH, WILL GO BACK TO THE AIRPORT AND WE'LL OBVIOUSLY KEEP OUR, SO NEXT WE HAVE THE KILROY AIRPORT PROPERTY, UH, 37 80 KIL PORT, UH, KILROY AIRPORT WAY.

UH, THIS LEASE ORIGINATION WAS JULY 1ST, 1995.

AND IT CURRENT, IT, IT'LL EXPIRE JULY 1ST, 2035.

AND THE ANNUAL REVENUE, UH, FOR THIS PROPERTY IS 83,980.

AGAIN, THE INCREASED TYPE, IT'S CPI OR 3%.

UM, AND THE CURRENT USE IS A PARK.

SO, UM, FUTURE POTENTIAL DISCUSSION ITEMS FOR THIS PROPERTY, UH, WE CAN EITHER, UH, USE IT AS A OPERATION PROPERTY OR SELL TO THE AIRPORT.

UH, WE CAN POTENTIALLY DISPOSE OF THE PROPERTY.

UM, AND IT'S ALSO PART OF AN OLD STORM DRAIN EASEMENT.

R ROBERT, IS THERE A, WHEN IT SAYS NA FOR A TERMINATION CLAUSE, THERE IS NO 180 DAY TERMINATION ON THIS.

I BELIEVE THERE IS, UH, WORKED INTO THE LEASE AGREEMENT.

CONFIRM THAT.

SORRY.

WHO IS THE LEASE WITH? UH, I BELIEVE IT'S WITH, UH, THE ROY, UM, AIRPORT CENTER.

OOPS.

OKAY.

SO THE NEXT PROPERTY LISTED IS THE CITY OF LONG BEACH FLEET OPERATIONS SITE.

UH, THIS IS LOCATED AT 2,600 TEMPLE AVENUE.

UH, THE 7.7 ACRES OF THIS SITE.

UH, THE LEASE ORIGINATION STARTED ON MARCH 1ST, 1986, AND THE LE LEASE EXPIRATION IS SEPTEMBER 31ST OF 40.

AND THE ANNUAL REVENUE IS, UH, 240,000.

AGAIN, THE INCREASED TYPE IS CPI OR 3%, UH, CURRENT USE, OBVIOUSLY IT'S USED BY FLEET OPERATIONS RIGHT NOW.

AND FUTURE POTENTIAL DISCUSSION ITEMS, AGAIN, UTILITY OPERATION USE, UH, POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OR DISPOSITION.

AND WE WOULD WANT TO APPRAISE AND HAVE A LEASE RATE EVALUATION.

CAN I HAVE A ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? UM, IS THIS A POTENTIAL FOR A CAMPUS LOCATION? I, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT WAS, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S SUCH A LARGE PARCEL.

IT HAS, IT HAS THE POTENTIAL GIVEN ITS SIZE.

AT THE SAME TIME THOUGH, THE CURRENT CAMPUS REDEVELOPMENT OPTIONS WERE FOCUSED MORE ON CONTINUITY AND CLOSENESS OF OPERATIONS.

SO WARDLOW, SPRING AND REDONDO CAMPUS WERE THE FOCUS, ADMITTEDLY, THIS IS A LARGE AMOUNT OF PROPERTY, BUT IT'S A LITTLE FARTHER AWAY FROM OPERATIONS.

WE CAN, I MEAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE THAT UP AS WE ENGAGE, UH, WITH THE EFFORTS THAT ARE BEING DONE NOW ON CAMPUS REDEVELOPMENT.

SORRY, BUT THE CITY, THE CITY IS THE, THE LEASE, RIGHT? YES.

SO THIS IS AN MOU.

THERE'S NOT A, AND SPEAKING OF THE MOU, UM, , SO THERE'S A SECTION WITHIN THE MOU, UH, THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.

UM, THERE'S THREE PROVISIONS AS, UH, AS PART OF SECTION FOUR, UH, A MONTHLY RENT IN THE INITIAL AMOUNT OF $9,700.

UH, THEN MAINTENANCE OF THE BOARD'S FLEET.

WHILE THIS MOU IS IN EXISTENCE AT NO CHARGE

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TO THE BOARD EXCEPT FOR THE ACTUAL .

UM, ARE WE, ARE WE CURRENTLY, DO WE CURRENTLY GET THAT DEAL? THAT THAT IS AN AREA OF DISCUSSION? UM, WE ARE NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

UM, I ACTUALLY, WE DID NOT, I DID NOT REALIZE THIS WAS A CASE AS PART OF THE MOU UNTIL RECENTLY.

AND WE'VE, WE'VE STARTED INITIAL CONVERSATIONS INTERNALLY ABOUT HOW DO WE, WE EVEN PROCEED GIVEN THAT WE HAVEN'T EXECUTED THIS COMPONENT OF THE MOU.

UM, BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH US REENGAGING.

'CAUSE THE REASON WHY THE RENT IS SO CHEAP IS BECAUSE THERE IS A LARGE MAINTENANCE COMPONENT THAT WE HAVEN'T TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF.

I I WAS GONNA SAY THE REVENUE, WHEN YOU SAY ANNUAL REVENUE SHOULD BE INCREASED BY THAT VALUE WE'RE GETTING BY THE FREE MAINTENANCE, SO THEN IT COMES CLOSER PRIOR TO MARKET RATE OR SOMETHING.

RIGHT? WELL, THE ITEM C IS ALSO ANOTHER CRITICAL FINANCIAL ELEMENT TO THE TRANSACTION BETWEEN US AND THE CITY.

AND ADMITTEDLY, THE CITY'S COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM THE MAINTENANCE OF THE BOARD'S FLEET.

I AGREE THAT IT'S A, IT'S, THAT'S A HUGE THING.

CAB IS NOT, THEY'RE NOT DEPENDENT, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT DEPENDENT.

BUT POTENTIALLY YOU, THIS IS THE POINT OF COMMITTEE DISCUSSION.

IT CAN BE CONVERSATIONAL.

THE, THE ACT OF ASKING FOR ITEM B COULD TRIGGER THE NEED FOR ITEM C TO BE CONSIDERED AS WELL.

I DISAGREE.

I I THINK THAT ITEM B SAYS, PART OF THE DEAL IS WE'RE GIVING YOU THIS AT A GREAT DEAL, AND PART OF THAT RENT THAT YOU'RE PAYING US FOR THAT PROPERTY IS YOU'LL MAINTAIN OUR FLEET AT NO, NO CHARGE, EXCEPT FOR THE COST.

ITEM C SAYS THE CITY'S NOT GONNA SEEK REIMBURSEMENT FOR ALL THE CAPITAL COSTS THEY PUT INTO THE SEWER SYSTEM THAT WE GAVE YOU.

RIGHT.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT ASKING US TO, ASKING THEM THE CITY TO MAINTAIN THE BOARD'S FLEET HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH CI MEAN, THEY'RE GONNA SAY NO, BUT I MEAN, THE, THE QUESTION COULD BE, OR THE DISCUSSION IS THAT'S WHY YOU, THIS IS 240,000 FOR SEVEN SOMETHING ACRES.

AND YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE GET FOR DON TEMPLE, UH, THEY'RE GETTING A GREAT DEAL.

FAIR.

I MEAN, THIS IS JUST ENLIGHTENING TO ME AND EDUCATIONAL, BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH THE DISCUSSION.

YES.

SO, SO WE, SO THEY CAN DO IT.

SAY, NO, YOU STARTED THE DISCUSSION, BUT WE'RE ALSO, YOU KNOW, IT'S A DIFFICULT CONVERSATION 'CAUSE EVERYBODY'S IN A .

WE'RE TRYING TO BE, UM, YOU KNOW, MINDFUL OF THE CURRENT FISCAL SITUATION OF EVERYBODY.

UM, AND SO WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN REINSTITUTE SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

BUT, BUT IT IS, IT IS NOW THAT I THINK WE REALIZED WE WEREN'T EXECUTING THIS COMPONENT, I THINK IT BEHOOVES US TO KIND OF RE REINVESTIGATE HOW DO WE GET BACK TO THIS? AND, AND I DON'T DISAGREE.

IF I WAS IN A DIFFERENT SEAT THAN I USED TO BE, I WOULD ARGUE, WAIT A MINUTE, YOU'VE WAIVED THAT.

WE, WE HAVEN'T DONE IT FOR SO MANY YEARS.

YOU DON'T, WE'RE NOT GOING BACK TO THAT.

I I, I TOTALLY SEE BOTH SIDES, BUT IT'S JUST SITTING IN THIS SEAT.

IT'S LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE, THIS IS THE DEAL.

AND THERE, THERE'S ADDITIONAL NUANCES SINCE THE MERGER OF THE UTILITY.

AND SO, TY, YOU'RE GONNA GUIDE ME AND CORRECT ME IF I, IF I MISSTATE SOMETHING.

SO WITH THE MERGER OF THE UTILITY, WE HAVE THE GAS DEPARTMENT FLEET, WHICH WAS INDEED MAINTAINED BY THE CITY.

UH, NOT INTENTIONALLY.

I AGREE THAT THIS WOULD ONLY APPLY TO THE WATER PORTION OF THE CURRENT UTILITY COMMISSION FLEET IF IT WAS EVER ENFORCED.

I, I DON'T THINK THAT WE GET TO GET, OH, NOW YOU GAVE US THIS, THE CITY PROBABLY DIDN'T LOOK AT THIS EITHER WHEN WE DID THE MERGER.

THE OTHER ELEMENT OF, OF UTILITY OPERATIONS IS THE EFFICIENCY IN THE EXPEDIENCY OF FLEET MAINTENANCE.

AND SO THAT COMES ALONG WITH THE COST.

SO ONE OF THE ELEMENTS OF MAINTAINING FLEET OURSELVES HAS BEEN THE LONG-TERM PRACTICE ELEMENT OF BEING ABLE TO SERVICE AND RESTORE BACK TO SERVICE AND RESTORE BACK TO OPERATIONS FLEET IN A TIMELY MANNER THAT WE BELIEVE IS AN ENHANCED EFFORT RELATED TO US HAVING OUR OWN IN-HOUSE OPERATIONS.

SO, AND THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION THAT, THAT I'M NOT EVEN AWARE OF HOW MUCH OR HOW MANY OF OUR OWN FLEETS DON'T EVEN GO OVER THERE FOR SERVICE.

THEY STAY HERE IN OUR SERVICE BY UTILITY COMMISSION.

VIRTUALLY ALL OF THE WATER IN STORE FLEET STAYS ON CAMPUS FOR MAINTENANCE, NEVER GOES OVER THERE.

NO.

UM, THERE'S SOME STUFF THAT WE ASK THEM TO DO.

AND AGAIN, NOT REALIZING WE, WE DIDN'T DO THIS CORRECTLY.

WE, WE HAVE SENT STUFF OVER, UM, FOR, FOR THEM TO DO SOME, UM, LIKE ADDING THE LIGHT BARS

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AND, AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT THEY CHARGE US.

SO, SO I'M, THIS ISN'T GOING ANYWHERE.

I GET IT.

YEAH.

MAYBE THE BENEFIT OF YOU BEING IN COMMITTEE AND CONVERSATIONAL, SO PLEASE CONTINUE.

NO, I, IT'S, I WOULD LIKE TO, IT'S INTERESTING , BUT I, I CAN SEE ALL THE PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH, YOU KNOW, YOU BRINGING THIS UP AND THEY'LL JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU.

BUT DEFINITELY LOTS CHANGED SINCE THIS MOU WAS ENTERED INTO AND IT'S NEVER BEEN REVISED.

AND I COULD SEE THEM MAKING AN ARGUMENT.

WE JUST NEED, THIS DOESN'T REFLECT CURRENT SITUATION.

YEAH, THEY MAY JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME CLEANUP LANGUAGE.

EXACTLY.

UM, THE, THE, UM, BUT I THINK THE BIGGER PICTURE, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS EVEN ON THE, THE LINE OF QUESTIONING, BUT HOW MUCH DO WE PAY FOR OUR FLEET SERVICES CURRENTLY? I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT IS THE COST? SO BACK TO OUR BUDGET, IT'S ROUGHLY A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE WATER SEW FLEET, AND IT'S ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE GAS FLEET.

SO IT'S SEPARATE FUNDS, BUT IT'S, THAT IS THE MAGNITUDE OF THE COST.

THAT'S JUST THE, THE, THE MAINTENANCE COMPONENT, NOT THE ACTUAL CAPITAL REPLACEMENT OR THE PARTS OR FUEL.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, PLEASE CONTINUE.

I'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

NOW WE'RE GONNA FOCUS IN ON CELL TOWERS.

SO FIRST WE HAVE THE AMERICAN TOWER.

THIS IS LOCATED AT OUR 32ND STREET BOOSTER STATION.

UH, THE CURRENT USER OF THE SITE IS AMERICAN TOWERS, UH, WHICH IS PART OF, OF VERIZON.

VERIZON WIRELESS.

UH, LEASE ORIGINATION WAS BACK IN NOVEMBER 1ST, 1984, AND THE LEASE EXPIRES OCTOBER 31ST, 2034.

UH, THE ANNUAL REVENUE FOR THIS LOCATION IS $58,288.

AGAIN, THE INCREASED TYPE IS THE SAME AS WITH OTHERS, 3% OR CPI, ROUGHLY ABOUT ZERO 0.03 ACRES.

UH, THE LAST APPRAISAL WAS COMPLETED IN 2003.

SO THE TOWER IS USED, UH, IT'S A HUNDRED FOOT TOWER, UH, WITH A GENERATOR AND UTILITY ROOM ON SITE.

UH, WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE THIRD EXTENSION AND WE'RE CURRENTLY IN NEGOTIATING A RENT FOR THIS SITE.

UH, HOWEVER PAYMENTS ARE CURRENTLY TO DATE, UH, THIS LOCATION DOES HAVE A DAY NOTICE TERMINATION.

SO, QUICK, QUICK QUESTION.

IF THAT, THAT, UH, THAT NEGOTIATION WERE TO START TODAY, WHAT WOULD THE VALUE OF THAT CONTRACT BE ROUGHLY? WOULD IT BE 58,000 OR WOULD IT BE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE? IT WOULD BE MORE, UH, COMMISSIONER AUSTIN, UH, JUST CONSIDERING CPI OR THE 3%.

UH, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A PROPERTY APPRAISAL AS WELL, UH, IN ORDER TO GET THAT NUMBER.

SECOND SIDE IS THE VERIZON AMIDO HILL TOWER, UH, 1849, UH, RESERVOIR DRIVE, THE LEASE ORIGINATION SEPTEMBER 1ST, 1987, AND THE LEASE EXPIRES AUGUST 31ST, 2022.

SO, UH, THIS LEASE HAS BEEN EXPIRED SINCE THEN.

UH, WE'RE STILL MAINTAINING CURRENT, UH, LEASE PROVISIONS.

UH, AND WE ARE CURRENTLY NEGOTIATING WITH VERIZON FOR THIS, UH, TERMINATION CLAUSE.

AGAIN, 80 DAY NOTICE.

SO I SEE THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THE APPRAISAL WAS COMPLETED IN 2024.

AND YOU'RE CURRENTLY NEGOTIATING WITH THEM A NEW LEASE.

CORRECT.

AT WHERE, WHERE DID THE APPRAISAL COME IN OR WHERE YOU'RE AT CURRENTLY WITH YOUR ANNUAL REVENUE? WELL, THE, THE ISSUE WITH VERIZON IS THEY HAVE REQUESTED A, UH, DECREASE IN THEIR RENT.

UH, AND THAT'S BASED OFF OF THEIR OPERATION.

WE WOULD, AT THE VERY LEAST, WANT TO, UH, WE DID THE APPRAISAL FOR IN 2024, UH, AND WE WOULD BASE THAT OUR MONTHLY LEASE OFF.

DID, DID YOUR APPRAISAL COME BACK? LESS MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT'S, IT CAME BACK.

SO THE LAST TOWER WE HAVE IS THE RE TOWER, WHICH IS LOCATED AT OUR J WALL JOHNSON

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RESERVOIR, UM, TO 400 FOOT TOWER.

SO PRETTY HIGH.

UM, LEASE ORIGINATION WAS OCTOBER 1ST, 1998, AND IT'LL EXPIRE SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2028.

THE ANNUAL REVENUE FOR THIS LEASE IS $369,672.

UH, INCREASED TYPE, UH, THIS ONE HAS A 7% OR CPI, UH, ACRES IS 0.69.

UH, THE LAST APPRAISAL WAS COMPLETED IN 2013.

UH, WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE THIRD RENEWAL AS OF NOVEMBER 23RD, 2022.

AND THIS ALSO HAS A 100 DAY NOTICE FOR TERMINATION.

IS THIS LEASE ALSO WITH VERIZON? NO, IT'S A PRIVATE COMMUNICATIONS COMPANY.

IT USED TO BE LIEBERMAN COMMUNICATIONS.

UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS SOLD TO AUSTRALIA.

AND WE HAVE OUR RF UPS OR REVOCABLE FACILITY USE PERMITS.

THIS IS MAINLY CONCENTRATED AT OUR PROPERTY JUST ACROSS THE WAY ACROSS CHERRY, JUST NORTH OF THE 4 0 5 FREEWAY.

UH, WE HAVE FOUR, UH, PERMITS PLUS, UH, THE CITY IS ALSO USING A PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY, UH, FOR TEMPORARY STORAGE OF IMPOUNDED AND TWO TO BE DESTROYED.

UH, RECREATIONAL VEHICLES, UH, THAT'S LOCATED AT, UH, NUMBER FIVE, UH, ON THE MAP.

SO WE'LL GO THROUGH EACH ONE.

THE FIRST ONE IS WITH CLUTCH MOTORCYCLE TRAINING.

UH, THE R-F-R-F-U-P ORIGINATED ON MARCH 10TH, 2022, AND IT'LL EXPIRE FEBRUARY 27TH, 2026.

THE ANNUAL REVENUE FOR THIS IS ONE $18,000.

WE HAVE A INCREASE IN CPI OR 3%, UH, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF ROUGHLY UNDER 42,000 SQUARE FEET.

AND THE APPRAISAL WAS COMPLETED IN 24.

THE PROPERTY IS USED FOR MOTORCYCLE, UH, AND THERE IS A TRAILER PARKED ON THE SITE THAT IS USED BY CLUTCH.

UH, THERE'S THREE ADDITIONAL ONE YEAR PERIODS OF RENEWALS, AND THE TERMINATION CLAUSE IS FIVE DAY NOTICE.

SO THE NEXT SITE IS THE COLLEGE OF INSTRUMENT TECHNOLOGY, OR CIT, UH, ORIGINATED JANUARY 31ST, 2020, AND IT WILL EXPIRE AUGUST 31ST OF 26.

UH, THE ANNUAL REVENUE FOR THIS, UH, SITE IS 56,700.

UH, INCREASE, INCREASED TYPE IS NINE BECAUSE THERE IS AN ARRANGEMENT WITH CIT, UH, 12 UTILITY EMPLOYEES A YEAR, RECEIVE 80 HOURS OF COMMERCIAL CLASSROOM DRIVER TRAINING AND 16 HOURS OF BEHIND THE WHEEL TRAIN.

UH, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THIS SIDE IS 52,500 SQUARE FEET.

AGAIN, THE APPRAISAL WAS COMPLETED IN 2024.

CLASSROOM HANDS-ON TRUCKING AND HEAVY EQUIPMENT TRAINING IS THE USE.

UH, THEY DID PUT A FENCE AROUND, UH, THE SITE.

THERE'S TWO ADDITIONAL ONE YEAR PERIODS, AND AGAIN, A FIVE DAY NOTICE, E THREE AUTOMOTIVE, UM, EXPIRES NOVEMBER 30TH, 2025.

THE ANNUAL REVENUE IS 44,652.

SAME INCREASED TYPE CPI OF 3% SMALLER SITE, 16,800 SQUARE FEET.

UH, IT'S CURRENTLY USED FOR TRAINING.

UH, THERE'S THREE ADDITIONAL ONE YEAR PERIODS AND CURRENTLY RENEWING FOR ONE YEAR AND THERE'S A FIVE DAY TERMINATION.

LASTLY, WE HAVE M AND J PROPERTY SERVICES, UH, EXPIRES MARCH 31ST, 2026.

UH, ANNUAL REVENUE IS 8,568.

UH, THE SMALLEST OF THE LOTS, 3002 SQUARE FEET, AND IT'S USED FOR, IT'S A LANDSCAPING COMPANY.

UM, THREE ADDITIONAL ONE YEAR PERIODS, RENEWALS, AND FIVE DAY NOTICE.

ROBERT, IF I REMEMBERED RIGHT, THERE WAS A FIFTH ONE.

THAT'S THE CURRENTLY BEING USED BY FLEET.

THAT'S CORRECT.

DO, DO WE HAVE, UM, I GUESS MY QUESTION FOR ALL OF THESE WOULD, AND NOT FLEET, BUT THERE'S NO ABILITY TO SUBLEASE THESE, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S A FIVE DAY NOTICE TO CANCEL, SO I'M NOT REALLY WORRIED ABOUT IF THEY DID.

OKAY.

AND THEN THE FIFTH

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ONE FOR FLEET, DO WE DO AN MOU FOR THEM? A LETTER AGREEMENT WITH THEM AND AT NO COST.

RIGHT.

BUT I THINK WOULD IT BE HELPFUL TO DO AN APPRAISAL AND JUST DETERMINE WHAT MARKET RATE WOULD BE? NOT THAT WE WOULD CHARGE THE CITY OF THAT, BUT THAT WE WOULD KNOW WHAT VALUE WE ARE.

YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT THAT'S A VALUE TO THE CITY THAT THE UTILITIES COMMISSION DEPARTMENT IS PROVIDING TO THEM.

AND I THINK THAT'S HELPFUL TO DISCUSS WHEN THE CITY ASKS WHAT DO YOU AS A UTILITIES COMMISSION PROVIDING BENEFITS TO THE CITY, THESE TYPE OF LEASES, THESE TYPE OF AGREEMENTS WHERE, UM, THEY'RE GETTING THE USE OF PROPERTY AT NO COST OR VERY, YOU KNOW, DISCOUNTED COST IS, IS SOMETHING THAT'S, I THINK, IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE AND SHARE THAT UTILITIES COMMISSION IS DEPARTMENT NOT COMMISSION, UM, OR GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND, RIGHT? WE, WE ARE PROVIDING WHERE WE CAN SERVICES TO THEM TO HELP THEM DEF FRAY OR REDUCE COSTS.

AND IF WE, WE DO HAVE A FAIRLY RECENT, UH, APPRAISAL FOR THIS, FOR THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, RIGHT? RIGHT.

BUT A PORTION OF THAT COULD BE ATTRIBUTED TO THAT MOU AND AS A BENEFIT TO THE CITY THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT WE'RE HOLDING IT OVER THEIR HEAD, BUT JUST SOMETHING WHEN WE'RE, WHEN WE'RE ASKED, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING FOR US LATELY.

RIGHT.

YOU CAN CERTAINLY LOOK.

OKAY.

AND LASTLY, ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS.

UH, I KNOW THIS IS A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT IT'S ESSENTIALLY, UH, OIL PROPERTIES PAYS RENT THROUGH AN MOU, UH, FOR USE OF SOME OF THE OFFICE SPACE AT THE SPRING CAMPUS.

UH, AND THAT COMES OUT TO A YEARLY TOTAL OF 260 2089.

NOW THIS MAY EVENTUALLY GO AWAY, UH, ONCE OIL PROPERTIES EL LOCATION ON SUBSEQUENT SIDE, REVENUE IS JUST CHANGING SOURCES.

SO, SO HERE WE HAVE IT, THE EDISON BUILDING , UM, SO LONG BEACH GAS PURCHASED THE FOURTH FLOOR AT THE END OF FI 22 AND THE AMOUNT OF 6.2 MILLION, UH, TENANT IMPROVEMENTS WERE ORIGINALLY ESTIMATED AND AN ADDITIONAL 6 MILLION.

UH, AND THOSE COSTS HAVE BEEN TO ROUGHLY ABOUT, UH, THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT IS CURRENTLY IN DISCUSSION WITH, UH, ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES TO PURCHASE PROPERTY FROM UTILITIES FOR OFFICE SPACE.

SO CURRENT AND PLAN USES, UH, LEVEL FOUR, UH, LB UTILITIES OFFICE FIT OUT, UH, PROGRAM FLOOR PLAN LAYOUT DEVELOPED, UH, FOR LEVEL THREE, UH, PDS CRIME LAB IS CURRENTLY IN DESIGN PHASE AND LEVEL ONE IN NEW SENIOR CENTER IS CURRENTLY.

THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.

UH, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.

SORRY, ROBERT.

GREAT REPORT.

I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION ON THE, UM, ELM PROPERTY.

YOU, YOU SAID THEY WE'RE CURRENTLY IN DISCUSSIONS WITH ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICE.

THAT'S THE OIL GROUP THAT'S CURRENTLY A GAS WOULD PURCHASE THIS TO TAKE, IF THEY DIDN'T PURCHASE IT, WOULD THEY BE WILLING TO RENT IT? IS THAT THE NEXT, I MEAN, I DON'T SEE, OR MAYBE YOU CAN TELL ME THERE'S A UTILITY USE FOR THAT PROPERTY, BUT I'VE HEARD NOT, WE HAVE NO UTILITY USE FOR THAT PROPERTY.

AS WE'VE DISCUSSED THE VARIOUS OPTIONS ASSOCIATED WITH CAMPUS REDEVELOPMENT, NONE OF THE OPTIONS HAVE INVOLVED THE 1 25 ELM AT THE SAME TIME.

THE OPTIONS COMING FORWARD HAS BEEN AN INDICATION AND AN INTENT, AND I'LL QUALIFY IT AS INTENT FROM THE CITY TO PURCHASE BACK THAT PROPERTY, THAT FLOOR FROM US AND HAVE IT FOR THE FUTURE USE OF WHAT IS NOW CALLED THE EES DEPARTMENT.

THE BUILD OUT HAS TO OCCUR AND THAT HAS NOT YET OCCURRED.

SO WHAT IS LIKELY TO HAPPEN IN SEQUENCE FIRST IS THAT OIL PROPERTIES IS LIKELY TO VACATE THE SPACE THAT THEY CURRENTLY RENT FROM US AT SPRING, MOVE INTO RENTAL SPACE THAT THEY NOW WOULD INHABIT AS EES AND WAIT FOR ELM TO BE IMPROVED.

UM, AGAIN, THE INTENT AS COMMUNICATED TO ME IS FOR EES TO TAKE CONTROL OF 1 25 ELM AND ESSENTIALLY PURCHASE IT BACK FROM US.

IS THERE A NEGOTIATED PRICE? THERE IS NO NEGOTIATED PRICE AT THAT TIME.

AT THIS TIME.

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WOW.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OH, THIS IS VERY, VERY INFORMATIVE.

UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UM, WE HAVE A MOTION, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT HEARING, NO PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, MOVE TO THE MOTION.

LET'S VOTE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.

AYE, UM, MOVING ON.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[2. 25-57248 Recommendation to receive and file a report on the Long Beach Public Utilities Department’s (LBPUD) Fire Hydrant Inspection Program.         Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

SO THE NEXT ITEM IS TO RECEIVE AND REP FILE A REPORT ON THE LONG BEACH UTILITIES DEPARTMENT'S FIRE HYDRANT INSPECTION PROGRAM.

FIRST, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? SECOND, UH, I'D LIKE TO CALL ON MR. JAR ALI, WE GOOD ALI? MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

UH, MY NAME IS JARED MAT LEE, MANAGER OF WATER SERVICES.

UH, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE WITH YOU'ALL, UH, SORRY, I'M READING INTO THIS.

THIS IS SPEAKING TO THE MICROPHONE, SO MAKE SURE IT'S GREAT.

UH, EARLY THIS YEAR, UH, UH, DATA TANK PRESENTED ON FIRE HYDRANT OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE.

SO TODAY I'LL BE BUILDING ON THAT DISCUSSION WITH AN UPDATE ON THE LONG BEACH FIRE HYDRANT INSPECTION PROGRAM, UH, INCLUDING HOW WE INSPECT, MAINTAIN, AND PROTECT THESE ASSETS ALONG WITH RECENT, UH, LEGISLATIVE FIRE HYDRANT SERVE TWO CRITICAL PURPOSES.

THEY SUPPORT FIRE PROTECTION BY PROVIDING FIRE DEPARTMENT WITH IMMEDIATE ACCESS TO HIGH VOLUMES OF WATER DURING EMERGENCIES, WHICH IS ESSENTIAL FOR EFFECTIVE FIREFIGHTING AND PROTECTING LIFE AND PROPERTY.

BECAUSE HYDRANTS, UH, SERVE, OH, EXCUSE ME.

AT THE SAME TIME, HYDRANTS PLAY AN ESSENTIAL ROLE IN WATER SYSTEM OPERATIONS.

THEY ARE USED FOR ROUTINE SYSTEM FLUSHING PRESSURE TESTING WATER QUALITY WORK THROUGHOUT THE DISTRIBUTION OF SYSTEM.

'CAUSE THEY SERVE BOTH, THEY SERVE BOTH ROLES.

CONSISTENT INSPECTION AND MAINTENANCE ARE CRITICAL TO PUBLIC SAFETY, REGULATORY COMPLIANCE, AND SYSTEM RELIABILITY.

WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS A MAP THAT ILLUSTRATES SYSTEM PRESSURE ACROSS OUR WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM.

THIS HELPS US UNDERSTAND HOW WATER IS MOVING THROUGH THE SYSTEM AND WHERE PRESSURE VARIATIONS MAY EXIST.

ALL HYDROGEN OPERATIONS ARE CONDUCTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE WATER RESOURCES CONTROL BOARD REQUIREMENTS UNDER THESE REGULATIONS, SYSTEM PRESSURE MUST REMAIN ABOVE 20 PSI EVEN DURING PEAK DEMAND FOR EMERGENCY CONDITIONS.

ADDITIONALLY, WHEN MORE THAN 20% NEW SERVICE CONNECTIONS ARE ADDED TO A SYSTEM, PRESSURE STANDARD INCREASES AND THE SYSTEM MUST BE CAPABLE OF PROVIDING AT LEAST 40 PSI.

THESE PRESSURE REQUIREMENTS ARE CRITICAL AS THEY HELP ENSURE WE MAINTAIN WATER QUALITY, PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE SYSTEM, AND SUPPORT RELIABLE OPERATIONS FOR BOTH FIRE PROTECTION AND EVERYDAY OPERATIONS.

THIS MAP PROVIDES A HIGH LEVEL VIEW OF OUR VALVE EXERCISING GRID, AND HIGHLIGHTS HOW HYDRO INSPECTIONS ARE PLANNED AND DISTRIBUTED EACH PHYSICAL YEAR.

TO SUPPORT OUR FIVE YEAR INSPECTION CYCLE, IT GIVES US A VISUAL SENSE OF HOW, HOW WE ORGANIZE THE WORK AND TRACK PROGRESS ACROSS THE SYSTEM TO MAKE SURE WE STAY ON SCHEDULE USING THIS GRID AS A PLANNING TOOL.

OUR HYDRO INSPECTION PROGRAM IS BUILT AROUND TOO, PRIMARILY, UH, TYPES OF INSPECTIONS.

THE FIRST IS SYSTEMIC INSPECTIONS, WHICH ARE CONDUCTED ON A FIVE-YEAR CYCLE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION RECOMMENDATIONS.

THESE, THESE INSPECTIONS ALLOW US TO PROACTIVELY ASSESS HYDRANT CONDITIONS ACROSS THE SYSTEM AND PLAN MAINTENANCE IN A STRUCTURED AND PREDICTABLE MANNER.

THE SECOND TYPE IS ON-DEMAND INSPECTIONS.

THIS OCCURS WHEN WE RECEIVE REPORTS FROM CUSTOMERS, FIRE DEPARTMENT OR PARTNERING GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, RESIDENTS AND PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL.

UH, THEY CAN, THEY CAN CONTACT OUR UTILITIES DISPATCH AT ANY TIME TO REPORT HYDRANTS THAT ARE DAMAGED AND OPERABLE OR OTHERWISE NEED, NEED ATTENTION TOGETHER.

THIS TWO-TIERED APPROACH ALLOWS US TO BALANCE LONG-TERM PLANNING WITH THE FLEXIBILITY TO RESPOND QUICKLY TO REAL-TIME ISSUES, HELPING US MAINTAIN SYSTEM RELIABILITY AND PROTECT PUBLIC SAFETY.

OUR STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE IS CRITICAL TO ENSURE ALL FIELD STAFF ARE INSPECTED HYDRANTS IN A, IN A CONSISTENT AND RELIABLE WAY NO MATTER WHO IS IN THE FIELD.

EACH HYDRANT INSPECTION FALLS THE SAME STANDARDIZED PROCESS.

DURING THIS INSPECTION,

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STAFF VERIFY THE HYDRANT BARREL TYPE MANUFACTURER, CHECK THE CONDITION OF ISOLATION VALVE, CONFIRM STATIC PRESSURE, OPERATE THE OUTLET VALVES, AND EVALUATE THE HYDRANT'S OVERALL PHYSICAL CONDITION.

FOLLOWING THESE CONSISTENT STEPS HELPS ENSURE INSPECTIONS ARE PERFORMED SAFELY, DATA IS RELIABLE, AND HYDRANTS ARE READY TO FUNCTION IS EXPECTED WHEN THEY'RE NEEDED, BOTH TO CONFIRM FULL FUNCTIONALITY, STAFF OPERATE ALL VALVE STEMS INCLUDING THE FOOT VALVE TO MAKE EACH MAKE TO MAKE SURE EACH HYDRANT OPENS AND CLOSES PROPERLY.

WE THEN RECORD STATIC PRESSURE USING GAUGES ON THE TWO AND A HALF INCH OUTLET.

PERFORM A FLOW TEST AND CONFIRM THE SYSTEM PRESSURE REMAINS STABLE THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

IN ADDITION, THE OPERATIONAL, IN ADDITION TO OPERATIONAL CHECKS, STAFF IS, IS ALSO COMPLETING A VISUAL INTEGRITY INSPECTION.

THIS INCLUDES LOOKING FOR GRAFFITI MISSING OR DAMAGED CAPS, PEELING PAINT, UH, PEELING PAINT, RUST, OR ANY OTHER SIGNS OF PHYSICAL DAMAGE THAT COULD AFFECT PERFORMANCE OR VISIBILITY TOGETHER.

THIS, THESE STEPS HELP ENSURE EACH HYDRANT IS BOTH OPERATIONALLY SOUND AND PHYSICALLY MAINTAINED.

MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES ARE GENERALLY GROUPED INTO TWO CATEGORIES, IMMEDIATE REPAIRS AND SCHEDULE REPAIRS.

IMMEDIATE REPAIRS ADDRESSES ISSUES THAT CAN BE CORRECTED RIGHT AWAY, SUCH AS MISSING CAPS, UH, DAMAGED BOLTS, SMALL LEAKS.

TAKING CARE OF THESE ITEMS QUICKLY HELPS KEEP HYDRANTS OPERATIONAL AND PREVENTS MINOR ISSUES FROM BECOMING LARGER PROBLEMS. SCHEDULE REPAIRS ARE RESERVED FOR MORE COMPLEX WORK, INCLUDING STRUCTURAL DAMAGE, LARGE LEAKS, OR REPAINTING.

THESE REPAIRS ARE PLANNED AND COORDINATED TO ENSURE THEY'RE COMPLETED SAFELY AND EFFICIENT.

THIS APPROACH ALLOWS US TO RESPOND QUICKLY TO URGENT ISSUES WHILE ALSO MANAGING LONG-TERM ACID.

UP HYDRANTS ARE TAKEN OUT AS SERVICE ONLY WHEN THEY'RE NOT FULLY FULLY OPERATIONAL.

THIS CAN OCCUR DUE TO ISSUES SUCH AS BENT VALVE STEMS, DAMAGE, DAMAGE FROM VANDALISM, OR WHEN A HYDRANT MUST BE TEMPORARILY REMOVED FROM SERVICE TO SUPPORT SYSTEM MAINTENANCE.

WHENEVER A HYDRANT IS OUTTA SERVICE, UH, WE NOTIFY FIRE DEPARTMENT THROUGH THEIR NON-EMERGENCY LINE, PROVIDING EXACT LOCATION AND DETAILS OF THE ISSUES SO THEY'RE AWARE OF THE TEMPORARY STATUS.

ONCE REPAIRS ARE COMPLETED AND HYDRANT IS FULLY FUNCTIONAL, AGAIN, WE FOLLOW UP WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO CONFIRM THE FIRE HYDRANT HAS BEEN RETURNED TO SERVICE.

THIS COMMUNICATION ENSURES COORDINATION BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS AND HELPS ALWAYS MAINTAIN PUBLIC SAFETY.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT FIRE HYDRANTS ARE PART OF THE DRINKING WATER SYSTEM AND RE REGULATED BY THE STATE WATER RESOURCES CONTROL BOARD.

'CAUSE OF THAT, CERTAIN HYDRANT RELATED ACTIVITIES MUST BE PERFORMED BY CERTIFIED DISTRIBUTION OPERATORS TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE AND PROTECT WATER QUALITY IN ADDITION TO WORK.

IN ADDITION TO, UH, WE WORK CLOSELY WITH OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING FIRE DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS TO MAKE SURE ACTIVITIES ARE COORDINATED PROPERLY AND COLLABORATED, UH, TO ENSURE, UH, REGULATORY COMPLIANCE AND WE ARE ABLE TO RESPOND, UH, EFFECTIVE EFFECTIVELY AND TI IN A TIMELY, EFFECTIVE MANNER.

THERE HAVE ALSO BEEN A FEW, UH, RECENT LEGISLATIVE ITEMS RELATED TO HYDROGEN OPERATIONS THAT ARE WORTH NOTING.

SB 3 94 AUTHORIZED WATER UTILITIES TO PURSUE CIVIL ACTION AGAINST INDIVIDUALS WHO TAMPER WITH OR ILLEGALLY USE FIRE HYDRANTS.

THIS LEGISLATION LEGISLATION STRENGTHENS OUR ABILITY TO PROTECT CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND DISCOURAGE UNAUTHORIZED USE.

THE BILL IS EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, 2020.

ANOTHER BILL AB 9 25 WOULD HAVE REQUIRED MOBILE HOME PARKS WITH 50 OR MORE UNITS TO DESIGNATE A PERSON KNOWLEDGEABLE IN EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS INCLUDING HYDRANT ACCESS.

HOWEVER, THAT BILL WAS HELD UP, COMMITTEE DID NOT MOVE FORWARD.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

WELL, THANK YOU.

I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.

MR. PARKIN, GREAT REPORT.

THANK YOU FOR THIS GREAT INFORMATION.

I, I APPRECIATE IT.

JUST ONE QUESTION.

IS THE PORT FIRE HYDRANTS INCLUDED IN YOUR SYSTEM AND MAINTAINED BY YOUR DEPARTMENT? NO,

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NOT THERE ARE PORTIONS OF THE PORT THAT WE DO MAINTAIN.

UH, NOT ALL OF THEM IN THE PORT BELONG TO US.

EVERYTHING DOWNSTREAM OF, UH, MASTER METER, TECHNICALLY THE PORTS.

OKAY.

SO ANYTHING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MASTER METER IS MAINTAINED BY THEM TO THESE SAME STANDARDS.

DO THEY FOLLOW YOUR SAME SOP FOR INSPECTIONS, ET CETERA? SPEAK ON THEIR OPERATIONS.

OKAY, SO WE DON'T KNOW CURRENTLY THE STATUS OF THOSE FIRE.

GREAT JOB.

AND, AND I JUST WANNA THANK YOU THE DOCUMENTATION FOR IN AND OUT OF SERVICE AND ALL THAT STUFF.

I I THINK THOSE ARE ALL GREAT IDEAS.

APPRECIATE ALL YOUR WORK.

THANK YOU.

AND I'M GONNA GIVE YOU THE NU GUY QUESTION.

UM, ROUGHLY HOW MANY FIRE HYDRANTS DO WE MAINTENANCE? I'M NOT SURE IF THAT WAS IN YOUR REPORT.

SO WE HAVE A, A CALENDAR THAT WE TRY TO, I'M SORRY, OUR GRID.

SO EVERY YEAR WE, WE, WE, WE ACTUALLY GOT THIS IDEA FROM, I BELIEVE PUBLIC WORKS HAS THE SAME, UH, MAP MM-HMM .

WITH TREE TRIMMING.

UH, THIS WAS VERY HELPFUL, I FEEL, UH, TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE TO, UH, THE PUBLIC.

WE BREAK DOWN THE GRIDS EVERY PHYSICAL YEAR.

WE CAN, WE CAN, UH, COMPLETE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 1600 FIRE HYDRANT INSPECTIONS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 1200, UH, 1,012 HUNDRED.

SO ON AVERAGE, WE, WE DO THIS LAST PHYSICAL YEAR, WE DID A LITTLE, OH, SO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOESN'T DO THAT.

SORRY.

IT'S OKAY, JARED.

AND I'LL TAG TEAM THE REST OF THESE QUESTIONS.

SO IN SHORT, ROUGHLY ABOUT 7,000 HYDRANTS EXIST IN THE SYSTEM THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR.

AND SO THIS GRID SYSTEM HERE OVER THE COURSE OF FIVE YEARS, WE WILL TOUCH EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

UM, WHAT JARED WAS PROBABLY TOO MODEST TO SAY IN HIS PRESENTATION IS THAT LIKE MANY THINGS, UM, THE CITY AT ONE POINT STARTED WITH MOSTLY PAPER.

UM, AND SO THE DOCUMENTATION ON FIRE HYDRANTS WAS DONE IN THAT MANNER OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS OR SO, UM, JARED HAS DIGITIZED THAT PROCESS, WHICH HAS ALLOWED US TO MAINTAIN ACCOUNTABILITY AND STANDARDS FOR CONSISTENCY IN THE WAY THAT WE DOCUMENT OUR FIRE HYDRANT INSPECTIONS AS WELL AS GO BACK AND REVIEW RECORDS.

AND IF, UM, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS ASKED, LA COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS ASKED, AND WE ARE NOW ABLE TO PROVIDE A MORE CONSISTENT AND COMPLETE, UM, SET OF RECORDS WHENEVER WE DO GET THOSE TYPES OF REQUESTS.

UM, AS IT HAPPENS, THERE ARE PORTIONS OF THE CITY THAT ARE EASIER TO WHERE WE, WHERE IT'S EASIER TO INSPECT FIRE HYDRANTS THAN OTHERS.

AND SO OVER THE COURSE OF TIME, WITHOUT THIS TYPE OF GRID SYSTEM AND AN ELECTRONIC DOCUMENTATION SYSTEM WHERE WE CAN SEE WHERE WE MIGHT BE MISSING SOME GAPS, UM, THERE ARE AREAS THAT WE NEED TO IMPROVE ON.

SO ONE EXAMPLE IS FIRE HYDRANTS ON THE AIRPORT PROPERTY.

WE DO INSPECT THOSE FIRE HYDRANTS, BUT IT REQUIRES A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF COORDINATION WITH LONG BEACH AIRPORT, FAA FLIGHT SCHEDULES, THAT SORT OF THING.

UM, WE ALSO HAVE INSPECTIONS THAT ARE NEAR, UH, THE SEVEN 10 FREEWAY OR 4 0 5 THAT REQUIRE COORDINATION WITH CALTRANS.

AND, AND LIKE JARED MENTIONED FOR FIRE HYDRANTS THAT ARE, UM, BEFORE THE MASTER METER IN THE PORT, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN WE'D NEED TO COORDINATE WITH THEM AS WELL.

SO IT'S NOT, NOT FOR EVERY FIRE HYDRANT, UM, IS AS EASY TO INSPECT THE ONES IN NEIGHBORHOODS PARKS SUPER EASY, THE ONES IN, IN MORE COMPLICATED AREAS.

UM, THESE STANDARDS AND THIS TYPE OF DOCUMENTATION HAS, HAS REALLY, UM, GIVEN US MORE VISIBILITY ON HOW TO MANAGE AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CAPTURING ALL HYDRANTS.

SO WE'RE DOWN TO 39, IS IT 23? ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE 23 MORE TO GO AND WE WILL HAVE A COMPLETE SET OF RECORDS ON ALL OF OUR HYDRANTS IN OUR SYSTEM.

GOOD JOB.

THANK YOU FOR THE VERY COMPREHENSIVE REPORT.

WELL DONE.

UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? PUBLIC COMMENT, HEARING NONE.

UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALRIGHT.

LAST ITEM ON OUR, ON OUR AGENDA IS TO RECEIVE A FILE, A REPORT ON THE LONG BEACH UTILITIES DEPARTMENT SEWER SMOKE TESTS OF NAPLES ISLAND.

WE HAVE A MOTION FIRST.

THANK YOU.

SECOND, MR. HERBA.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS MICHAEL HERBA, I'M

[3. 25-57285 Recommendation to receive and file a report on the Long Beach Public Utilities Department’s (LBPUD) Sewer Smoke Test of Naples Island.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

THE MANAGER OF SEWER OPERATIONS AND I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU A PRESENTATION ON OUR SUMMARY REPORT FOR OUR SMOKE TESTING PROJECT.

WHAT IS SMOKE TESTING?

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SMOKE TESTING IS A DIAGNOSTIC TOOL THAT INVOLVES INTRODUCING SMOKE SIMILAR TO WHAT IS USED IN MOVIES AND EVENTS INTO THE SEWER SYSTEM PIPING, UTILIZING A HIGH FLOW LOW PRESSURE BLOWER BY OBSERVING WHERE THIS SMOKE EMERGES.

WE CAN IDENTIFY BREAKS IN THE SYSTEM AND PROPER CONNECTIONS, STORMWATER INFLOW AND OTHER DEFECTS.

THE PICTURE AT THE TOP OF THIS SLIDE SHOWS PROPER PLUMBING WITH SMOKE ESCAPING THROUGH THE ROOF FENCE AS DESIGNED.

THE BOTTOM PICTURE SHOWS SMOKE EMERGING FROM THE GROUND INDICATING A POTENTIAL BREAK IN PLUMBING.

THIS DEFECT TURNED OUT TO BE AN ABANDONED SEWER LATERAL THAT WAS NOT PROPERLY CAPPED.

PICTURES, DESCRIPTIONS AND GPS COORDINATES WERE CAPTURED FOR ALL SMOKE THAT EMERGED FROM LOCATIONS OTHER THAN ROOF EVENTS.

WHY THE NEED FOR SMOKE TESTING IN EARLY 2024 LONG BEACH EXPERIENCED A ONE IN 100 YEAR STORM THAT SEVERELY STRESSED OUR COLLECTION SYSTEM.

THIS RAIN EVENT PUSHED S TEN ONE OF HER PUMP STATIONS BEYOND CAPACITY.

THE TOP PICTURE SHOWS A WET WELL LEVEL DURING THE EVENT.

Y AXIS OF THE GRAPH SHOWS A WET WELL LEVEL.

THE X AXIS OF THE GRAPH GRAPH IS TIME ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PUMP HAS NORMAL CYCLE TIMES.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE WET WELL RISES PUMPS KICK ON AND THE WET WELL LEVEL DROPS.

MIDDLE, UH, OF THE GRAPH SHOWS AN INCREASED CYCLE TIME, SO THE WET WELL LEVELS RISE, THE PUMPS KICK ON AND IT TAKES SLIGHTLY LONGER OR THE WET WELL LEVEL COMPLETELY DROP ON THE RIGHT SIDE.

IT SHOWS A RUNAWAY TERRAIN.

THE PUMPS ARE RUNNING, HOWEVER, THE WET WELL LEVEL DOES NOT DROPPED AND IT INCREASES THIS REQUIRED EMERGENCY INTERVENTION WITH A VACUUM TRUCK TO TEMPORARILY ADD CAPACITY TO THE PUMP STATION.

DURING THE RAIN EVENT PROJECT WAS COMPLETED OVER FIVE DAYS, DIVIDED INTO FIVE SEPARATE AREAS WITH THE CONTRACTOR DOWNSTREAM SERVICES PERFORMING THE WORK CONSISTING OF A THREE MAN CREW.

OUR ULTIMATE GOAL IS PROTECTING LIFE, HEALTH AND PROPERTY BY PREVENTING SEWER SPILLS.

WE'RE TAKING PROACTIVE MEASURES TO IDENTIFY INFLOW AND INFILTRATION SOURCES BEFORE A FUTURE STORMS OCCUR.

THIS IS A MAP OF THE PROJECT LOCATION SHOWING NAPLES ISLAND WE'RE ALL WASTEWATER FLOWS THROUGH A SINGLE PUMP STATION S 10.

THIS AREA CONSISTS OF ROUGHLY 1,985, ADDRESSES, 1600 METER WATER CONNECTIONS AND ROUGHLY 300 MANHOLES.

WE CONDUCTED EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY OUTREACH FOR THIS PROJECT, RESIDENTS BEING TESTED, RECEIVED A 21 DAY, SEVEN DAY, AND 24 HOUR NOTIFICATIONS.

RESIDENTS WITHIN LINE OF SIGHT OF THE PROJECT RECEIVED A 21 DAY NOTICE.

WE COORDINATED WITH FIRE POLICE, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, OUR INTERNAL DISPATCH AND BILLING DEPARTMENT REGARDING THE PROJECT IN-PERSON.

PUBLIC OUTREACH WAS ALSO CONDUCTED WITH BUSINESSES, SCHOOLS, LIFEGUARDS, THE BOY SCOUTS AND THE YACHT CLUB.

MESSAGE BOARDS WERE ALSO PLACED AT HIGH TRAFFIC AREAS THROUGHOUT THE LOCATION.

MAJORITY OF THE SYSTEM SHOWED NO VISIBLE DEFECTS OR INFLOW OR INFILTRATION.

ROUGHLY 1% WERE ISSUED FURTHER INVESTIGATION THROUGH CCTV IS NEEDED TO LOCATE THE ACTUAL BRAKE IN OUR MAIN LINE OR SEWER LATERAL.

FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN SMOKE EMERGES FROM A WATER METER BOX, IT INDICATES THE SMOKE TOOK THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE TO ESCAPE TO THE ATMOSPHERE AND THE BRAKE IS NEARBY.

NOTABLE FINDINGS, DRINK THREE SINKHOLE WERE IDENTIFIED.

TWO WATER METER BOX LOCATIONS SHOWED SMOKE.

THE MAJORITY OF ISSUES WERE CLEAN OUT CAPS MISSING ON THE PRIVATE SIDE.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A CLEAN OUT CAP MISSING.

THESE WERE NOT SIGNIFICANT SOURCES OF INFLOW.

THERE IS USUALLY A VALVE BOX WITH A CAP AS SHOWN AND THEIR CLEAN OUT PIPE THAT IS OPEN IS STILL BELOW THIS LID.

SO THERE IS A COVER OVER THE OPENING OF THE PIPE.

THIS IS A SMOKE TESTING FORM SHOWING

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AN ABANDONED PIPE.

THE PIPE WAS NOT PROPERLY CAPPED OFF AT THE STRUCTURE.

THIS IS A SMOKE TESTING FORM SHOWING A CHECK VALVE OPERATING PROPERLY.

THIS BOX HOUSES A CHECK VALVE THAT IS UTILIZED WHEN BOATS OFFLOAD THEIR WASTEWATER.

IT IS COVERED AND WOULD NOT BE A SOURCE OF INFLOW OR INFILTRATION AND IS OPERATING PROPERLY.

HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF A BREAK DETECTED BY SMOKE TESTING.

AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF INFILTRATION THAT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN DETECTED BY OUR CCTV EQUIPMENT.

AS THE PIPE APPEARS STRUCTURALLY SOUND AND WITH NO VISIBLE SIGNS OF A SINGLE FORMING ABOVE GROUND THREE SINGLES WERE IDENTIFIED, THESE WOULD HAVE BEEN DETECTED THROUGH DIET TEST AND LIKELY WOULD'VE BEEN DISCOVERED EVEN WITHOUT SMOKE TESTING.

SO WHERE DID ALL OF THE ACCESS FLOW COME FROM? DURING THE RAIN EVENTS, IT WAS US THE ENTIRE TIME.

OUR INITIAL SUSPICION WAS THAT IMPROPER PRIVATE CONNECTIONS WERE THE SOURCE OF INFLOW, BUT THE DATA APPROVED OTHERWISE THE INFLOW WAS COMING THROUGH THE MANHOLE LIDS AT LOW POINTS.

SMOKE TESTING VERIFIED WILL BE INSTINCTIVELY NEW.

MANUAL CORKING AND SEALING OF MANHOLES IS NOT A PERMANENT FIX.

COMPOSITE LIDS PREVENT THIS TYPE OF INFLOW.

HOW DID WE GET TO UTILIZING COMPOSITE LIDS? WE FIRST STARTED UTILIZING THEM IN AREAS WHERE CAST IRON SEWER MANHOLE FRAME AND COVERS WOULD RUST SHUT PREVENTING EMERGENCY ACCESS 'CAUSE OF THEIR CEILING CAPABILITIES.

WE USE THEM NEXT TO RESTAURANTS OR AREAS WHERE ODORS WERE, UH, WERE OF CONCERN.

NOW THEY'RE PROVING THEIR WORTH WITH PREVENTING INFLOW.

AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WAS OBSERVED OUT IN THE FIELD WHEN THEY WERE PERFORMING, THE SMOKE TESTING WASN'T AS DRAMATIC AS WE THOUGHT THE LESSONS LEARNED.

SUPERIOR CONTAINMENT PROVED MORE EFFECTIVE THAN TRADITIONAL CORKING SEALING FOR SMOKE TESTING, OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY, REDUCED LABOR, AND IMPROVED SAFETY.

FOR FIELD CREWS, IT'S A PERMANENT FIX, NO NEED TO SEAL MULTIPLE TIMES IN FUTURE PROOFING.

RECOMMENDED FOR KEY AREAS TO PREVENT RAINWATER INFLOW.

NEXT STEPS BASED ON THE FINDINGS FROM SMOKE TESTING.

OUR NEXT STEPS ARE FOCUSED ON COMPLETING THE REMAINING CITY RESPONSIBLE RESPONSIBILITY REPAIRS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED DURING THE INVESTIGATION.

WE'LL ALSO CONTINUE MONITORING SYSTEM PERFORMANCE DURING WET WEATHER EVENTS USING SCADA DATA TO EVALUATE SYSTEM RESPONSE AND COMPARE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE COMPOSITE LIDS PROCEED WITH ONGOING REPLACEMENT OF MANHOLE LIDS AND IDENTIFIED LOW LINE AREAS.

EVEN SMALL AMOUNTS OF RAINWATER COLLECT AT THE LOW POINTS IN NAPLES ISLAND ALLEYS 'CAUSE MANY MANHOLES ARE LOCATED AT THESE DOWNWARD CURVES.

WATER FLOWS DIRECTLY TOWARD THE PICK HOLES AND ENTERS THE SEWER SYSTEM, CREATING A SIGNIFICANT INFLOW DURING RAIN EVENTS.

COMPOSITE LIDS ELIMINATE THESE OPENINGS AND PREVENT THIS INFLOW PATHWAY ENTIRELY.

HERE'S A COPY OF OUR RULES AND REGS.

ITEM F INDICATING STORMWATER IS A PROHIBITED DISCHARGE INTO OUR SEWER SYSTEM.

RECOMMENDATION IS TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE REPORT ON THE LONG BEACH PUBLIC UTILITIES DEPARTMENT'S SEWER SMOKE TEST OF NAPLES ISLAND.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

WONDERFUL.

UM, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE, THE SLIDE WITH THE COMPOSITE AND WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, IS THAT THE COMPOSITE? THAT IS THE COMPOSITE LID AND THAT IS NOT, THAT IS A CAST IRON.

OKAY.

JUST WANT, WANTED TO CLEAR ON THAT.

AND THE CAST IRON LAYER THAT THERE'S A, THERE'S A HOLE AND CORRECT IS THERE'S A VENT HOLE AND A PICKLE.

TECHNICALLY THERE IS TWO HOLES.

ONE

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RIGHT THERE AND THEN ONE RIGHT THERE.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE THAT PICKLE HOLE IS CURRENTLY WHAT WE WOULD SAY SEALED WITH A CORD AND WE GO OUT TO SEAL THE MANHOLE.

WE'LL PUT A LAYER OF, UH, SILICONE AROUND THE RING AND THEN WE WOULD PUT TWO QUARTER.

ANY QUESTIONS MR. PARKER? NO THANK YOU.

I JUST, ONE, ARE YOU PLANNING THESE SMOKE TESTS IN OTHER AIR LOW LINE AREAS OF THE CITY OR HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHERE YOU'RE GONNA GO LOOK OR DO YOU NOW KNOW WE HAVE A PLAN TO REPLACE THESE WITH COMPOSITE IDENTIFIED ANY OTHER AREAS IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW? NOT TO SAY THAT THEY DON'T EXIST, HOWEVER, NAPLES WAS A UNIQUE COMMUNITY 'CAUSE OF THE WASTEWATER, UH, OVERWHELMING THAT ONE PUMP STATION.

AND SO THAT IS WHERE WE STARTED.

COMMISSIONER PARK.

IF I COULD ADD TO THAT, UM, DURING THE RAIN EVENTS IN FEBRUARY, 2024, THE CITY EXPERIENCED A, A VERY LARGE SEWER SPILL THAT WAS ATTRIBUTABLE TO LA COUNTY.

AND SO THAT SPARKED, UM, A LARGE CONVERSATION BETWEEN US AND THEM.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE AGREED TO DO WAS, WAS SMOKE TEST.

AND OF COURSE, UM, THE SMOKE TESTING ITSELF IS NOT, UH, NOT A SMALL TASK.

SO WE WANTED TO CHOOSE A LOCATION THAT MADE THE MOST SENSE.

AND FOR US, UM, WHILE THERE WERE TWO LOCATIONS IN LONG BEACH THAT UM, ACTUALLY THERE WAS ONLY ONE LOCATION IN LONG BEACH THAT ACTUALLY HAD A SEWER SPILL.

THAT LOCATION WAS CLOSER TO THE COLORADO LAGOON AND THAT SEWER SPILL WAS DIRECTLY ATTRIBUTABLE TO LA COUNTY SANITATION.

AND NOT TO US.

FOR US, WE WERE THE MOST VULNERABLE IN ON NAPLES ISLAND, WHICH ACTUALLY IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S CLIMATE ACTION ADAPTATION PLAN.

UM, THAT PLAN, THE CAP IDENTIFIES NAPLES ISLAND AND SPECIFICALLY THE SEWER PUMP STATIONS AND THE STORMWATER SYSTEM ALSO AS BEING VULNERABLE TO CLIMATE CHANGE.

AND SO THE SELECTION OF NAPLES ISLAND FOR SEWER SMOKE TESTING WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE CLIMATE ACTION AND ADAPTATION PLAN CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE SAW OUR SYS OR WHERE WE SAW OUR SYSTEM STRUGGLE.

AND BECAUSE THE LESSON THAT WE LEARNED WITH THE LOW LYING AREAS AND, UM, THE PITHOLES IS SO TRANSFERABLE TO OTHER PORTIONS OF THE CITY WITHOUT HAVING TO REDO THIS TEST, OUR PLAN IS TO, UM, INSTEAD OF PAYING FOR MORE SPOKE TESTING, PAY FOR THE COMPOSITE LIDS, LOOK FOR THOSE LOW LYING AREAS AND REPLACE THOSE.

UM, IF LA COUNTY DOES COME BACK TO US, WE WILL ENCOURAGE THEM TO SMOKE, TEST THEIR SYSTEM WHERE THEY EXPERIENCED TROUBLE.

UM, BUT AT THIS TIME WE ARE NOT PLANNING FOR ANY ADDITIONAL SMOKE TESTING.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.

I LEARN SOMETHING NEW EVERY DAY.

UM, IS, UH, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS? UH, ANY ADDITIONAL? NOTHING.

UM, ALL IN FAVOR OF RECEIVING FILE.

AYE.

AND MOVING ON, UH, IS THERE ANYONE ADDITIONAL, ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC THAT'S ON NON AGENDA ITEMS?

[PUBLIC COMMENT Opportunity to address the Infrastructure Committee on non-agenda items. Each speaker is limited to three minutes to make their comments unless extended by the Chair.]

HEARING NONE, UH, ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? NO, NO ANNOUNCEMENTS.

ALRIGHT.

[ANNOUNCEMENTS]

WE ARE ADJOURNED.