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THURSDAY, JANUARY 8, 20, 26 OR JANUARY 2ND.

UH, WE'RE HERE IN THE, UH, MARINA OFFICE, UH, AND I AM CALLING US TO ORDER, UH, CAN WE START WITH A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? YES, MA'AM.

COMMISSIONER MCCRAY? YES.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER MORENO.

COMMISSIONER MURRAY HERE.

YOU HAVE A QUORUM.

UH, LET THE RECORD NOTE THAT TO HAS AN EXCUSED ABSENCE.

AND WHAT STAFF MEMBERS ARE PRESENT? UH, BRIAN PLANTS, SUPERINTENDENT MARINE OPERATIONS.

AND PAM SAYER, BUREAU SECRETARY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, SO WE'RE GONNA START WITH OUR MINUTES FROM OUR PREVIOUS MEETING.

I MAY THEY'D BE, UH, APPROVED AS DISTRIBUTED.

SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

ALL RIGHT.

ITEM TWO, WE'RE GONNA, UM, TALK ABOUT OUR AGENDA ITEMS AND THE AGENDA FOR OUR MEETING ON THE EIGHTH.

AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, A CHANGE OF VENUE THERE.

WE'LL BE AT THE BIXBY PARK SOCIAL HALL.

UH, WE'RE LOOKING, UM, TO CHANGE MEETINGS AROUND SO THAT WE'RE IN DIFFERENT COUNCIL DISTRICTS AND MORE OF THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF LONG BEACH.

UM, WE'LL FIND OUR MEETINGS ACCESSIBLE, SO THAT'S WHY WE OCCASIONALLY HAVE NIGHT MEETINGS AND THAT WE WORK TO CHANGE THE VENUES FOR ACCESSIBILITY.

IS THERE A MADAM CHAIR? IS THERE PARKING THERE OR DOES THE STICKER, DO YOU HAVE TO PAY, PUT QUARTERS IN RIGHT THERE.

IT'S NOT METERED PARKING.

I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE, I DON'T THINK I SAW METERS THERE, BUT IT IS DEFINITELY MORE IMPACTED IN THAT AREA.

OKAY.

SO THERE IS PARKING AROUND THE BUILDING, UM, AND THEN ON, ON SOME OF THE ADJACENT STREETS, BUT IT, IT IS A BIT OF A BUSIER AREA, RIGHT OFF BROADWAY, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

YEAH.

BROADWAY IN BETWEEN OCEAN, OCEAN, OCEAN, OCEAN, OCEAN CHERRY.

IT'S LIKE OCEAN.

I CAN SEE IT AND IT SAYS NO CRUISING.

SO DON'T LOOK FOR A PARKING PLACE TOO LONG.

.

OKAY.

AND IT'S RED CROSS STREET FROM THE, THE PARK WHERE THEY DO ALL THE YOGA? YES.

THE BIGGER PARK.

YES.

PARK PANTRIES ON THE CORNER.

EXACTLY.

GOT IT.

UH, AND, AND BRIAN HAS VOLUNTEERED TO, UM, GO EARLY AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S OKAY.

HE IS GONNA CHECK OUT THE SOUND SYSTEM AND, UM, GREAT.

AND WE OF COURSE HAVE, UM, PARKS AND REC STAFF THAT ARE THERE THAT'LL HELP US LIKE THEY DO AT GREAT, UH, RECREATION PARK.

AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF AGENDA ITEMS COMING UP.

AND THANKS TO, UM, WELL, WE HAVE SPEAKERS COMING FROM THE CITY OF LONG BEACH, FROM BOTH THE OFFICE OF ETHICS AND IN TRANSPARENCY, AS WELL AS FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

UM, THAT'LL BOTH BE MAKING PRESENTATIONS AND THEY PREFER TO DO THOSE AS A TEAM AND THEY PREFER WHEN THERE'S AS MANY COMMISSIONERS AS POSSIBLE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE ACCOMMODATED BY HAVING 'EM DURING THE MONTH OF JANUARY, UH, AT A TIME THAT THEY COULD BOTH COME.

CORRECT.

UH, AND FOLLOWING THOSE PRESENTATIONS, UH, WE'LL HAVE OUR TRADITIONAL, UH, MANAGERS MONTHLY, UM, UPDATES.

UH, BRIAN SHARED WITH ME, UM, PREVIOUSLY THAT, UM, HE'S PREPPING FOR THE AUCTION ON THE 24TH, WHICH IS KIND OF EXCITING.

UM, THE OTHER REMINDER YOU SAID WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU WERE CONFIRMING WHERE OUR MEETING WILL TAKE PLACE, UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE IN THE MANAGER'S REPORT A CLARIFICATION ABOUT THE TRIMMING OF TREES AND WHAT IS OF THE AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY OF OUR MARINE BUREAU VERSUS THE, UM, PUBLIC WORKS.

I KNOW THERE'S SECTIONS IN LONG BEACH THAT ONE SIDE OF THE STREET IS MARINE BUREAU AND THE OTHER SIDE IS PUBLIC WORKS.

RIGHT.

AND WE ARE LACKING CONSISTENCY.

AND I KNOW, UM, SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT LEAD THE YOGA GROUPS HAD THEN DIRECTED THAT THE TREE TRIMMING BEACH CHANGED ON THE SPOT AND THEY WERE SUCCESSFUL.

UM, SO I, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE DIRECTION COMING MORE, UM, FROM THE, EITHER THE MARINE BUREAU, IF THAT'S WITHIN THEIR JURISDICTION OR FROM PUBLIC WORKS IN A MORE FORMAL AND, AND DEFINITELY CONSISTENT WAY.

IT KIND OF GOES ALONG WITH WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE MAINTENANCE OF THE BLUFFS, THERE WAS THAT ONE SECTION THAT SOMEHOW WE MISSED WAS THE SCOPE OF WORK INCLUDED, UM, FOR BOTH OUR SUBCONTRACTOR AS WELL AS THE CITY.

UM, AND I THINK IF WE CAN CLARIFY ALMOST WITH A MAP THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED, UM, I THINK IT WOULD ALSO, WE'D APPRECIATE WITH THAT WHAT A HUGE SCOPE OF WORK IT IS THAT OUR MARINE BUREAUS DOES.

IT IS A, A MAJOR UNDERTAKING TO GET

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ALL THE TREES TRIMMED IN THE, THE PERIOD THAT WERE ALLOTTED.

BUT THE CHAIRWOMAN IS RIGHT THOUGH, YOU KNOW, THE STREETS SEPARATE ONE SIDE OF THE STREETS, RAIN BUREAU, THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREETS, THE OTHER GROUP THAT FRUSTRATING TO SEE PALMS ALL PICKED UP ON ONE SIDE AND NOT PICKED UP ON THE OTHER SIDE.

YEAH, WE CAN, I THINK KELLY AND HIS TEAM HAS A, A GOOD, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THIS SPECIFIC SPECIFIC TOPIC.

AND I'LL, I'LL ASK HIM TO INCLUDE A MAP, UM, WITH HIS DOCUMENTS, UH, SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE, YOU KNOW, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT I BELIEVE THOSE, THOSE LANDSCAPING MAPS DO, DO EXIST.

AND HE HAS THOSE MM-HMM .

SAME WITH THE SAME WITH THE, UH, RECEPTACLE TRASH CANS.

I KNOW IN SOME AREAS, ESPECIALLY DOWN AT THE END OF UH, UH, OR GLADSTEIN'S AND ALL THOSE RESTAURANTS ARE, UM, IF YOU GO BY THERE, SOME OF THOSE ARE JUST, THEY OVERFILL IN THE DAY.

YEAH.

AND I THINK, THINK IT'S MORE BECAUSE A LOT OF THE, THE VOTERS, FROM WHAT I SAW, I MEAN PEOPLE LEAVING, BRINGING THEIR TRASH THINK GOD, THEY'RE PUTTING IT IN A TRASHCAN.

WELL, WHEN THE TRASHCANS OVERFLOW, THEY'RE JUST SETTING IT BY THE SIDE.

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE WIND PICKS UP? IT ALL GOES AWAY.

SO, WELL, AND THERESA'S NOT HERE TO SAY AND OUR CONSERVATION CORPS AND ALL THEY DO AND THEY DO GREAT.

I GOTTA TELL YOU THE CONSERVA, I I, I'D LOVE TO SEE SOME OF THE CONSTANT, THEIR, THEIR MEMBERS SHOW UP.

SOME OF THE KIDS SHOW UP JUST TO GET SOME KUDOS.

NICE.

UM, 'CAUSE I DELIVERED ALL MY BATTERIES THERE FROM CHANGING OUT ALL THE, THE, THE KIDS' TOYS AND STUFF OF THAT NATURE.

THIS HERE, AND THEY TAKE 'EM RIGHT THERE.

NICE.

SO IT'S VERY COOL.

ARE WE GOOD ON, UH, UM, AND THIS IS, UH, TAMLIN.

MM-HMM .

I THINK YOU SENT ME AN EMAIL FOR, IS THAT FOR THE ETHICS CLASS? SOMETHING I GOTTA FILL OUT? DID YOU SEND ME THAT WAS THE CYBER, WAS THAT THE CYBER TRAINING? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? IS THAT WHAT IT WAS? CYBER TRAINING? YEAH.

AT FIRST WE WERE TOLD, WELL, TO HOLD OFF, BUT I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO FORWARD AND DO THE TRAINING.

I THINK I JUST DID IT RIGHT.

YOU DID.

OKAY.

SO I CAN GO ONLINE.

I CAN GO ONLINE THIS WEEKEND AND I CAN GET IT DONE THIS WEEKEND.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, THERESA ASKED ABOUT THAT AS WELL, SO WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE AS MANY OF US AS POSSIBLE HAVE THAT DONE IN, IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

UM, THEN, WE'LL WE HAVE THE TWO SUBCOMMITTEES THAT ARE MEETING, UH, OR THE ONE IS THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.

UM, IS THERE ANY HIGHLIGHTS OR ANYTHING WE KNOW FROM THAT MEETING? UM, I MEAN, PORTIA WILL BE PRESENTING, UM, YOU KNOW, NUMBERS FROM, FROM THE PAST QUARTER.

UH, JUST GONNA SHOW US, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW WE'VE DONE, HOW WE'RE TRACKING, UH, YOU KNOW, ANY CREATIVE WAY SHE CAN, UM, HAS THAT SHE CAN BREAK DOWN, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE THE, LIKE THE SLIP FEE INCREASE, UM, AND HAD KIND OF A MATRIX SHOWING HOW THAT INCOME COMES IN AND WHERE A PERCENTAGE OF OUR INCOME IS, YOU KNOW, HOW WE HAVE THIS MM-HMM .

CERTAIN SIZES ARE AT THIS RATE.

RIGHT.

UM, AND I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE, UM, POSSIBLE TO MAKE THAT A MATRIX THAT WOULDN'T BE TOO DIFFICULT WITH THE DATABASES.

WE HAVE TO PUT, YOU KNOW, THE INCOME FROM 30 FOOTERS IS X NUMBER OF DOLLARS FROM THE 40 FOOTERS IS Y SO YOU COULD REALLY SEE WHERE THE BULK OF THE MARINA'S INCOME IS COMING FROM AS FAR AS SLIP RENTALS IS CONCERNED.

HMM.

I EVER THOUGHT, MADAM CHAIR, I KNOW THEY'RE LOOKING AT DOING THE WINDMILLS OUT.

I'M NOT TAKING AWAY NO MORE OIL.

NOW WE'RE GONNA GO WIND GENERATION OF TAKING A PORTION OF THAT TO THE TIDELAND FUNDS AND TO, UH, THE MARINE BUREAU.

JUST A THOUGHT.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S ENERGY BEING DRAWN.

IT'S ENERGY UTILIZING OUR AREA, WHICH IS THE OCEAN AND THE BEACHES.

JUST A THOUGHT BE INTERESTING THAT SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS COULD COME BACK AND FULFILL THE TIDELANDS.

WELL, THE OTHER THING THAT IS ON TUESDAY'S COUNCIL AGENDA IS THE ELECTRONIC SIGNAGE THAT'S GONNA BE IN THE TIDELANDS AREAS AND THAT THOSE WILL BE REVENUE GENERATING.

UH, AND WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF THOSE WITHIN OUR FOOTPRINT.

ANYTHING IN THE PROPOSAL, ANYTHING ON THE PROPOSAL OF THE LIFEGUARD STATIONS THAT HAS NOT COME UP AND AGAIN GENERATED.

OKAY.

BUT I, I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT WILL END THE FIRST QUARTER OF THIS YEAR.

OKAY.

GOOD.

UH, ON THE OTHER SIDE TOO, ANYTHING ON THE, THE, THE RESTROOMS ON THE OUTSIDE? NOT, NOT THOSE.

NO, NOT, I, I'M NOT GOING THERE.

THAT ONE, THE RESTROOMS, WERE THEY GONNA PAINT SOMETHING? THE THOUGHT OF IT AS PAINTING IT ON THE, THE BACKSIDE MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, WHEN THE BOAT OWNERS COME IN, THERE'LL BE SOMETHING ON IT.

YEAH.

HAS THAT MOVED FORWARD? YES, IT HAS.

YEP.

WE'RE WORKING, WORKING THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT ON, WHICH ONE IS IT? IT'S 8 32.

IS IT EIGHT? OKAY.

YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY 32.

SO THAT, I THINK THE, THE PROCUREMENT OF THAT IS, IS, IS MOVING FORWARD.

GREAT.

YES.

GREAT.

YEAH.

AND RESTROOMS TOO.

I ALWAYS THROW THAT OUT THERE JUST, JUST BECAUSE IT, IT, IT'S, I

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I FIND IT INTERESTING 'CAUSE I DID, UH, UH, MADAM CHAIR TOOK OUR DUFFY OUT AND NOT GETTING OFF, BUT THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT ATTEMPTING TO GO INTO THE BOATHOUSE TO USE THEIR RESTROOMS, THERE WAS 26 PEOPLE LINED UP AND SAY, NO, NO, WE'RE GONNA GET A CUP OF COFFEE.

OH NO, WE, IT IS NOT SELLING COFFEE.

IT'S A CLOSED EVENT.

THE EVENT WAS A CLOSED EVENT ON A MONDAY FOR A CHRISTMAS EVENT, AND THERE WERE STILL PEOPLE IN LINE TRYING TO GET IN TO A VAP BLACK TIE EVENT TO USE THE RESTROOM BECAUSE THERE'S NO RESTROOM.

VERY FRUSTRATING FOR THE BOAT OWNERS.

SO LEAVE IT AT THAT.

I'LL BRING IT UP AT THE, WELL, I, AND I KNOW ALSO THE BOAT OWNERS ASSOCIATION IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE ONGOING EFFORTS OF HOLLAND CONSTRUCTION.

UM, AND WITH THEM TAKING OVER THAT ADDITIONAL LANE AND THEN THE, UM, THE FUTURE CLOSURE OF THAT, UM, SECTION OF STUDEBAKER ROAD, AND THEN THE ADJACENT DEVELOPER, UM, TOOK OUT THE ADJACENT PALM TREES ON THEIR PROPERTY.

UH, AND I GUESS THAT THAT WAS A, ANOTHER GLITCH IN THE SYSTEM OF APPROVAL.

UH, SO THE BOAT OWNERS ARE DEFINITELY AWARE AND THEY'VE EXPRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT WHERE THOSE CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES ARE GONNA PARK SINCE THE HOLLAND PEOPLE ARE SUBLETTING THE, THAT PROPERTY NOW TO PARK THEIR CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES.

SO, IT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE I OBVIOUSLY PICTURES TOO OF THE PALM TREES GOING DOWN AND I SAID, WELL, WHO APPROVED THAT? I MEAN, I, I BELIEVE THE PROPERTY OF THE CITY, UH, THAT WAS CITY PROPERTY WHERE THE PALM TREES WERE TAKEN DOWN.

THERE'S SO MUCH FROM THE STREET TO THE SIDEWALK TO THE WALKWAY INTO THEIR PROPERTY.

SO INTERESTING.

IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO RELOCATE THOSE.

YEAH.

UH, SO WE'VE GOT THOSE STANDARD ITEMS. WE'LL HAVE THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE REPORT AND THE FINANCE COMMITTEE REPORT.

YES.

UM, ANYTHING ELSE WE, WE NEED TO ADD? ANYTHING ELSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE IS IN ANY OF THOSE REPORTS? WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE A SERF, I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE A SURF, UH, FROM, UH, GORDANA.

SHE MAY BE, UH, AN UPDATE ON THE OKAY.

THE SURFING.

SO WE DIDN'T GET TIME.

OH.

AND WE CAN JUST, OR WE CAN MAKE THAT A LITTLE GENERIC.

YEAH.

WE DIDN'T GET TIME AT OUR LAST MEETING TO GO THROUGH IT.

OKAY.

UM, YEAH.

I ALWAYS SAY IT, THE NEW LAWS ARE IN, IN PLACE, MADAM CHAIR OF THE ELECTRIC BIKES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

15 MILES AN HOUR.

OKAY.

UM, AND THERE'S MORE KIDS THAT ARE RIDING THE MINI BIKES, THE THREE WHEELER BIKES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT NOW HAS THE ACT TO ENFORCE IF THEY WANT TO.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHEN ARE THEY GONNA ENFORCE.

UM, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WILL DEFINITELY BE, UH, UH, I'LL BRING IT UP, YOU KNOW.

AND THE OTHER SIDE, I, I, I SHARED, UH, WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

I THINK IT WAS IN, UH, IS IT GERMANY OR GREECE? THE, THE ROBOT BOATS THAT ARE GOING OUT.

PLEASE, PLEASE SLOW DOWN.

SLOW DOWN.

IT'S LIKE A DRONE BOAT, BUT IT'S ON THE WATER.

I DON'T KNOW.

THEY CAN, I THINK IT WAS DUBAI.

I THINK IT WAS DUBAI.

I THINK IT WAS DUBAI.

BUT YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU THINK OF THAT, YOU KNOW, THE OLYMPICS ARE COMING, WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE NEW TECHNOLOGY HERE FROM SOME OF THE OTHER COUNTRIES THAT'LL BRING THINGS WITH THEM.

RIGHT.

UM, YOU KNOW, WELL THE, UM, OUR LOCAL YACHT CLUBS HAVE SECURED BOTS FOR PLACING OF MARKS FOR A RACE COMMITTEE.

WOW.

SO WE HAVE THAT ALREADY.

SO WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF THAT TECHNOLOGICAL.

ANYTHING ELSE OF THE GOOD OF THE ORDER? ANYTHING ELSE ON OUR AGENDA? NO MA'AM.

I THINK THERE'S GONNA BE GOOD THERE.

NO FURTHER BUSINESS.

WE'LL ADJOURN AT 2 46.

OKAY.