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EVERYONE, IT'S NOW 2:00 PM SO I'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
IS PAT A MEMBER OR NOT? NO, SHE HAS RESIGNED FROM, IS SHE STILL ON THERE? YEAH, SHE'S ON THERE.
I HAVE TO TELL CITY CLERK AGAIN.
UM, SO THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING OF MONDAY, NOVEMBER 10TH, 2025.
IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE? SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? I DON'T THINK THERE'S PUBLIC COMMENT.
RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A DISCUSSION ON FOLLOW UP TO THE 2025 HOMELESS SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE, POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL'S THEIR MOTION.
UM, SO THIS CENTER'S PRIMARILY, I BELIEVE ON OUR INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS MEETING WITH THEIR, UM, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
SO I WONDERED IF JENNIFER, MAYBE YOU COULD REMIND, IS IT POSSIBLE TO SEND OUT AN EMAIL REMINDER TO HAYEK MEMBERS TO SCHEDULE THAT MEETING TO GO OVER THE RECOMMENDATIONS? YEAH, I CAN SEND THEM A REMINDER.
AND I THINK THEY ALREADY GOT THAT FORM IN PERSON AT OUR LAST MEETING, UM, TO HELP THEM WALK THROUGH.
JUST AS AN UPDATE, JULIE AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBER TO SCHEDULE A MEETING.
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE LAST WEEK, BUT NOW IT'S BEEN BUMPED BACK.
SO WE'RE JUST EMPHASIZING THAT WE'D REALLY LIKE, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.
UM, BEFORE HELLO, BEFORE, UM, FEBRUARY 4TH, OUR NEXT DAY CENTER, OUR COMMITTEE AND I, I DO HAVE A SESSION, UM, SCHEDULED WITH COUNCIL WOMAN'S AND
HER AND HER, UH, CHIEF OF STAFF.
DO YOU FEEL WELL PREPARED? LIKE YOU HAVE EVERYTHING THAT YOU NEED? I THINK I DO, YES.
I, I ACTUALLY MET WITH MEGAN KERR AND IT WAS GOOD.
MY EMPHASIS WAS ON, UM, THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSIONS CITY COUNCIL ABOUT SORT OF HOMELESS IMPACTS STILL ON DOWNTOWN AREA.
AND, AND UH, MINE WAS MORE TO EMPHASIZE IF THERE WAS AN ADDITI, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR ADDITIONAL HOMELESS SHELTER BEDS.
IF THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL SHELTER DOWN THERE, 1500 BEDS, WHATEVER IT IS, IT WILL TAKE THOSE FOLKS OFF THE STREET.
I THINK THAT ARE, PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT IN DOWNTOWN LONG BEACH.
SO IF, IF THE BUSINESS OWNERS ARE CONCERNED, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEND $60 MILLION OR WHATEVER TO GET TO 60%, UM, SHELTERED, BUT YOU COULD TARGET THAT AREA AND IT'S AN AREA TO ADD SHELTER BEDS AND IT WOULD BE LESS COSTLY, BUT STILL COSTLY.
DID YOU GET ANY FEEDBACK OR ANY, UM, COMMENTS SPECIFICALLY IN YOUR DISTRICT? NO.
UM, SH SHE SEEMS TO BE VERY WELL INFORMED.
SHE, I GUESS HER HUSBAND IS RELATED AND SHE'S EARLY ON WAS A VOLUNTEER AND DID VOLUNTEER WORK FOR HOMELESS.
AND SO SHE'S AWARE OF KIND OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
UM, KIND OF A SORT OF A, I DON'T WANNA SAY LAISSEZ FAIR, BUT JUST SORT OF A RECOGNITION THAT THE HOMELESS, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN PRESENT AND, UH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHAT WE CAN, UM, I JUST WANTED TO ASK IF YOU NEED ANY SUPPORT IN SCHEDULING A MEETING WITH YOUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, IF YOU HAVE THE, THE FORMS THAT YOU NEED OR IF YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO SCHEDULE A MEETING.
WELL, I'VE ASKED FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT, UM, THE SHOWER PROGRAM AND I'M WAITING TO HEAR BACK ABOUT THAT INFORMATION.
UH, PAUL DID SEND A MESSAGE TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER.
I HAD A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS AS WE RECALL.
AND I HAVEN'T GOT THE ANSWERS YET.
AND THERE WERE SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
I ALREADY CONTACTED THEM ONCE AND THEY HAD ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, WHICH I ALSO FORWARDED TO HER.
SO I'M WAITING TO HEAR ABOUT THOSE QUEST, THOSE ANSWERS SO I CAN, UH, GIVE THEM MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
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HOW CAN I SPEAK TO THEM IF I DON'T REALLY KNOW THE ANSWERS TO THEIR QUESTIONS? YEAH.I THINK WHAT WE KNOW NOW IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR TWO RECOMMENDATIONS AS FAR AS INCREASING THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE SHELTERED AND THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING HYGIENE.
AND THEN THAT THE CITY HAS BOUGHT A SHOWER TRUCK.
SO WE'RE HAPPY ABOUT THAT PROGRESS.
THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE, THEY ACTUALLY BOUGHT IT.
THEY'RE ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT TO, UM, PURCHASE ONE, BUT IT ACTUALLY HAS TO BE MADE.
UM, I MEAN IT IS IN, IT IS IN THE ATTACHMENT.
IT'S REFERENCED IN THE ATTACHMENT THAT THE CITY INCLUDED WITH OUR, UM, ANNUAL REPORT AND POLICY RECOMMENDATION.
UM, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF THE AGREEMENT HAS BEEN SIGNED.
DO YOU JOSEPH OR JENNIFER? YEAH, THAT WAS MY, I DON'T, PAUL SHOULD BE JOINING IN A LITTLE BIT, SO MAYBE HE CAN TOUCH ON THAT A LITTLE MORE.
THAT'S KIND OF, I WAS AT THIS, I HAD A SENSE THAT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT PAUL KIND OF, IT'S A PROPOSAL, BUT THEN HAS IT BEEN FUNDED, YOU KNOW, HAS THE FUNDING FOR THE SHOWER AND THE, THE USE OF THE SHOWER FOR A YEAR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE LABOR COSTS.
HAVE BOTH OF THOSE BEEN FUNDED? I'M NOT SURE.
AND THE LAST UPDATE, THIS IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FUNDS TO PURCHASE THE SHOWER TRUCK WERE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, BUT MAYBE NOT THE STAFFING.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT OCTOBER REQUEST TO COUNCIL WAS WE'RE GOING TO PURCHASE THE SHOWER TRUCK AND THAT WAS APPROVED, BUT I DON'T THINK STAFFING WAS ATTACHED TO IT.
THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT KIND OF HOOKUPS THEY NEED.
YOU KNOW, WHAT IS REQUIRED IN ORDER TO HOST THIS.
BECAUSE THAT'S THE FIRST THING THEY'RE GONNA ASK IS WHAT DO I NEED TO DO? YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU NEED? DO YOU NEED SEWAGE? DO YOU NEED WATER? DO YOU NEED, I KNOW THE ANSWER IS YES TO SEWAGE AND WE CAN ASK THAT QUESTION ABOUT WATER.
WELL, IF I COULD, I JUST TO SHARE, PAT, I WENT AHEAD AND, AND MADE THE APPOINTMENT WITH, UH, COUNCILWOMAN ZENDEJAS KNOWING THAT WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF THOSE DETAILS, BECAUSE I'M REALLY INTERESTED TO HEAR FROM HER BOTH ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF DOING THIS AND THEN TO SEE IF, IF SHE IS CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE VERY IMPORTANT LOGISTICAL ISSUES OR IF SHE HAS OTHER CONCERNS.
I DON'T ANTICIPATE HER CHALLENGING THIS CONCEPT, BUT I GUESS I FELT LIKE I WANTED TO GET HER COMMITTED AND INTO THIS PROCESS.
UM, AND NOT ASSUME THAT SHE'S PAYING PRIORITY ATTENTION TO THIS.
MY COUNSEL PERSON HAS, UM, JOANIE HAS KNOWN ABOUT THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
AND SHE WORKS VERY CLOSELY WITH ME, SO I KNOW SHE'S INTERESTED.
SHE SAID THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
I GOT AN EMAIL BACK AND SHE SAID, THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET SERVICES IN OUR AREA AND YES, WE ARE INTERESTED, BUT WE NEED TO KNOW.
SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED ALL THESE, THAT'S WHY I ASKED ALL THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I CAN'T PRESENT PROPERLY TO HER IF I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS THAT I NEED.
'CAUSE I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE TRUCKS LOOK LIKE.
WHAT, WASN'T THERE SOMETHING ALSO ABOUT, I KIND OF HAD THIS VISION THAT IT WAS, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WOULD FOLLOW ALONG AN EXISTING SERVICE THAT'S GOING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, THE MAC, MAC OUT TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WOULD BE PART OF THAT.
AND MAYBE SOME OF THE STAFFING AND LOGISTICS WOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF WITH THAT.
IS THAT STILL WHAT THE DISCUSSION IS? I BELIEVE SO.
UM, SO THEY WOULD LIKE THE SHOWERS TO BE IN COMBINATION WITH THE MAX SCHEDULE.
UM, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S BEEN LIKE SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN FINALIZED YET.
I MEAN, WHEN ALL THIS IS, HOPEFULLY IT MOVES FORWARD.
IT'D BE GOOD TO, I DON'T HAVE A VISION OF THE LOGISTICS.
WHERE DO THEY GO? WHERE DOES THE MAP GO? HOW DOES IT HOOK UP TO MM-HMM
WELL SEE THE MAP IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD GOES AND IT'S ON, IT GOES ONTO ATLANTIC BOULEVARD NEXT TO THE PARK.
IT'S JUST A STREET, LIKE IN THE OTHER STREET.
SO THE BACK TRUCKS AREN'T IN A LOCATION WHERE THIS
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WOULD BE FEASIBLE, BUT IF THEY MOVE THEM INTO THE PARK, LIKE IN THE PARKING LOT MM-HMMIT WAS NEAR THE SEWAGE BECAUSE THEY COULD JUST PUT THEIR HOSE INTO THE SEWAGE PIPES.
BUT IF THEY NEED WATER HOOKUPS, I'M NOT SURE THEY'D GET THEM.
BUT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF MOVEMENT, WE COULD PROBABLY, BECAUSE THE OTHER TRUCK WAS AT CHITTY PARK AND THAT WAS IN THE PARKING LOT.
SO THEY MUST HAVE HAD SOME WAY THAT ONE HAD TANKS THAT SHOWER.
THAT SHOWER VEHICLE HAD TANKS.
THEY HAD BOTH THE WATER TANK AND THEY COLLECTED ITS YEAH, THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO KNOW GRAY WATER ABOUT THE TRUCKS THAT, BUT I WAS, I'M READING THE, THE, UM, MEMO TO CITY COUNCIL.
UM, AND IT JUST SAYS, UM, IT WAS TO APPROVE AWARD OF A CONTRACT TO A FIRM IN CANADA, QUEBEC, CANADA CALLED MOBILIO.
AND IT'S FOR A FOUR, UM, FOUR STATION SHOWER TRAILER WITH RELATED ACCESSORIES.
UM, MOBILIA MOBILIA OR MOBILIO? MOBILIA.
MOBILIA, YEAH, THEY PROBABLY HAVE IT ON THEIR WEBSITE.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS WRITING DOWN SO I COULD LOOK IT UP.
MAYBE THAT'LL GIVE US MORE MM-HMM
IF WE LOOK UP ON THEIR WEBSITE, MAYBE AFRA SAYS YOU MIGHT HAVE TO READ IT IN FRENCH
SO
UM, YEAH, SO WE COULD ACTUALLY, WHEN PAUL COMES IN, WE CAN ASK HIM WITH, YOU KNOW, THE STATUSES.
AT LEAST IF WE KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE TRUCKS, THEN WE'LL KNOW A LITTLE PIECE OF INFORMATION, BUT WE STILL NEED A LOT OF ANSWERS.
AND IT'S EXCITING THAT YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER IS INTERESTED IN PROVIDING THE SERVICE AND DISTRICT, SO THAT'S VERY GOOD.
OH, SHE'S VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
THAT WOULD BE A MAJOR THING FOR OUR AREA.
AND THAT'S, THEY COME ONCE A WEEK.
IS THAT KIND OF A SENSE OF HOW THEY MAKE ROUNDS ONCE A WEEK? WELL, I AM NOT TOO SURE ON THE MAX SCHEDULE TO BE HONEST, BECAUSE IT'S NOT EVERY OTHER WEEK, I THINK, ISN'T IT? YEAH.
I'M NOT SURE, BUT I CAN FIND THE SCHEDULE AND SEND IT TO YOU GUYS.
ANYTHING ELSE ON, ON THIS TOPIC? ALRIGHT.
RECEIVE AND FILE A DISCUSSION ON COST EFFECTIVE HOMELESS SERVICE MODELS.
IS THERE A MOTION? I'LL MOVE A SECOND.
AND SO PART OF THIS, WHAT HAD BEEN MENTIONED IN THIS TOPIC WAS ACTUALLY A PRESENTATION FROM JOSEPH ON THE NEW YORK DROP IN CENT, UH, DROP IN CENTERS.
AND JOSEPH HAD SENT ME SOME CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, WHICH I HAVEN'T GOTTEN.
DID YOU DO A PRESENTATION? NO, WE ASK.
SO THERE WAS A REQUEST, THERE WAS AN INFORMAL CONVERSATION, BUT ACTUALLY, IF YOU DON'T MIND, JOSEPH, HE REALLY RAISED SOME INTERESTING QUESTIONS OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN THE PRESENTATION.
SO I AT LEAST WANTED TO SHARE HIS RESPONSE SO WE CAN THOUGHTFULLY THINK ABOUT IT AND, AND CLARIFY WITH HIM WHAT WE MIGHT BE LOOKING FOR.
AND JUST AN OVERVIEW, YOU KNOW, A FEW, YOU SAID A FEW POINTS TO CONSIDER JOSEPH.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW DROP-INS DON'T EXPAND SHELTER BED CAPACITY.
SO IT'S REALLY APPLES TO ORANGES.
IF WE'RE LOOKING TOWARDS OUR GOAL OF INCREASING THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE SHELTERED, DROP-IN CENTERS AREN'T REALLY THE WAY TO GO ON THAT.
UM, YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW THEY'RE A VERY SMALL PIECE WITHIN NEW YORK CITY OVERNIGHT SERVICE SYSTEM.
AND YOU SAID ONE BARRIER IS SITE LOCATION AND COMMUNITY ACCEPTANCE.
I THINK WE SEE THAT WITH A LOT OF SERVICES.
UM, BUT SOMETIMES THEY TRIGGER COMMUNITY CONCERNS, UM, RATHER THAN A RESIDENTIAL SHELTER FACILITY WHERE, UM, PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, SLEEP AND STAY IN A DEDICATED BED.
UM, YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW THEY'RE GOOD FOR COLD WEATHER EMERGENCIES, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THOSE SAME TYPE OF COLD WEATHER EMERGENCIES HERE.
ALTHOUGH WE DO HAVE PLENTY OF RAIN EMERGENCIES.
AND ACTUALLY I THINK A LOT OF CASES OF HYPOTHERMIA, I REMEMBER READING CALIFORNIA HAS MORE HYPOTHERMIA MM-HMM
UM, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THOSE LIKE BELOW FREEZING WEATHER
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EMERGENCIES.UM, AND YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW ACTUALLY NEW YORK HAS MOVED AWAY FROM USING DROP-IN CENTERS AS OVERNIGHT SPACES AND, AND SHIFTED RESOURCES TOWARDS LOW BARRIER KIND OF SHELTER BED BASED OPTIONS.
UM, SO YOU SAID KIND OF CONSIDERING HOW THIS COMMITTEE HAS SAID WE'RE, WE'RE FOCUSED ON SHELTER, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE SAYING YOU'RE NOT SURE THAT DROP IN FACILITIES ARE THE BEST USE OF POTENTIAL AVAILABLE SPACE.
UM, BUT THAT YOU'RE GLAD TO DO A REPORT.
IF WE KIND OF CLARIFY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN THAT REPORT AT OUR NEXT MEETING, IS THIS REFERRING TO PLACES WHERE THEY CAN GO CHARGE THEIR PHONES AND WASH THEIR CLOTHES? OR IS THIS REFERRING TO A PLACE WHERE THEY SLEEP TEMPORARILY? SO I, YEAH, I CAN CLARIFY.
SO GENERALLY DROP IN CENTERS, UH, IN NEW YORK WOULD FUNCTION OR DROP IN CENTER GENERALLY WOULD FUNCTION KIND OF SIMILARLY TO LIKE THIS, UH, UH, COORDINATED ENTRY SYSTEM CS ACCESS POINT.
SO A FACILITY WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO, THERE ARE SOME SERVICES AVAILABLE, UM, MOSTLY CONNECTIONS TO OTHER SERVICES.
SO PEOPLE POTENTIALLY, IF THEY, IF THEY HAD LAUNDRY, A LAUNDRY FACILITY THAT'S NOT LIKE A REQUIREMENT OF A DROP IN, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BE AN OPTION, BUT REALLY THEY'D BE LIKE MAYBE TRYING TO CONNECT FOLKS WITH A SECOND POINT OF CONTACT OR INPUTTING THEM INTO THE HOMELESS MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEM TO ATTEMPT TO GET THEM INTO A REFERRAL TO AN OVERNIGHT BED.
UM, BUT GENERALLY THE PRIMARY FUNCTION, AT LEAST WHEN I WAS WORKING IN NEW YORK CITY, WHICH WAS A LITTLE WHILE AGO NOW, WAS, UH, SPACES FOR PEOPLE TO GO OVERNIGHT, PARTICULARLY IN COLD WEATHER WHERE IT BE A LOT OF CHAIRS SET UP IN A ROOM.
SO IT WAS JUST LIKE A SPACE THAT THEY COULD GO.
YOU COULDN'T SLEEP THERE UNLESS YOU COULD SLEEP SITTING UP IN A CHAIR.
UM, BUT GENERALLY IT WAS MEANT, AGAIN, TO HAVE, UM, JUST A FACILITY THAT WAS JUST OPEN SO PEOPLE COULD GO TO AND, AND DROP INTO.
I, I DID HAVE SOME OF MY QUESTIONS HERE AS WELL.
UM, SO AGAIN, ONE CONCERN RIGHT, IS THAT THIS WOULD BE DEDICATION OF BOTH SPACE AND, UH, FUNDING FOR A FACILITY THAT ULTIMATELY WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED ANY KIND OF SHELTER SPACE.
IT WOULD JUST BE CONSIDERED A FACILITY THAT PEOPLE COULD COME AND GO TO AS THEY PLEASE.
AND AGAIN, I THINK THAT THE BIGGEST THING IS THAT COMMUNITY ACCEPTANCE.
YOU KNOW, RECENTLY LIKELY AWARE THAT WE SAW A BIG COMMUNITY TURNOUT WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO TAKE IT, YOU KNOW, MASTER LEASE A MOTEL ESSENTIALLY, AND MAKE IT INTO A TRANSITIONAL HOUSING FACILITY.
AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WAS ULTIMATELY, NOW WE'RE FINDING ANOTHER LOCATION FOR THAT BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL ENDED UP KIND OF CAVING TO THAT PRESSURE, I'LL SAY.
UH, FORGIVE MY USE OF THE TERM CAVING, UM, BUT MADE, MADE ADJUSTMENTS, MADE ADJUSTMENTS.
THERE YOU ARE, UM, MUCH MORE DIPLOMATIC AND, UM, YEAH, SO I, I THINK THAT ONE OF THE DIFFICULTIES IN MY MIND AS WELL IS WE'RE THINKING OF THE CITY OF LONG BEACH.
WE'RE THINKING OF SPACE, UM, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO UTILIZE RESOURCES AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS FACILITY THAT WE'RE SAYING PEOPLE WILL HAVE THEIR OWN SPACE, THEY'LL SLEEP THERE AT NIGHT.
RIGHT? IT'S, PEOPLE ARE KIND OF AGAINST THAT SAYING, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PLACE THAT'S OPEN OVERNIGHT.
PEOPLE AREN'T SLEEPING THERE, IT'S JUST A PLACE FOR THEM ESSENTIALLY TO HANG OUT.
RIGHT?
IT COULD TURN INTO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
UM, MY ASSUMPTION WOULD BE IT PROBABLY WOULD, YOU KNOW, RESULT IN SIMILAR OR MORE PUSHBACK THAN A SITE THAT'S ACTUALLY MEANT FOR PEOPLE TO STAY OVERNIGHT.
UM, SO THAT WAS ANOTHER CONCERN.
UH, AGAIN, THE IDEA, AND YOU OUTLINED A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE, THE POINTS THAT I BROUGHT UP.
SO, I MEAN, ULTIMATELY, I GUESS, I GUESS I WAS TRYING TO DETERMINE IN, IN THIS IS WHAT LIKE WAS THE INTENTION THAT, THAT THE DROP IN CENTER, BECAUSE THERE'D BE THE HOSTING POTENTIALLY OF AN UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF FIRE CAPACITY, RIGHT? THAT AS MANY PEOPLE COULD GO THERE AS THEY WANT.
WAS THAT THE IDEA FOR, YOU KNOW, COST EFFECTIVENESS? WAS IT AN IDEA THAT WE COULD UTILIZE THAT AS KIND OF A SHELTER CAPACITY OR LIKE A, YOU KNOW, PSEUDO SHELTER CAPACITY? YEAH, I WAS JUST, I GUESS TRYING TO SEE LIKE, YOU KNOW, UM, EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AND THEN ALSO JUST THOUGHT IT'D BE INTERESTING TO BRING UP AS A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION AS WELL, JUST TO GET PEOPLE'S FEEDBACK.
SO IN IN SKID ROW, I DUNNO IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR, BUT THEY DO HAVE A 24 7 REFRESH SPOT THAT I HAVE VISITED A COUPLE OF TIMES IN THE LAST
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MONTH.AND IT PROVIDES US A SAFE PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO GO TO THE BATHROOM TO CHARGE THEIR PHONE TO SIT AND I AND SHOWER IF THEY WANT.
UM, THEY CAN ALSO LEAVE THEIR LAUNDRY TO BE DONE.
THEY HAVE LIKE 20 BANKS OF WASHERS AND 20 BANKS OF, OF DRYERS THERE.
UM, I THINK AS I REMEMBER THE DISCUSSION FROM OUR PRIOR, UM, POLICY RECOMMENDATION, IT WAS TO ADDRESS THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE A SAFE PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO GO TO THE BATHROOM TO SIT, TO SHOWER, TO CHARGE THEIR PHONE OR TO DO ANYTHING TO JUST BE, UM, AND IF YOU DON'T ADDRESS THE PHYSICAL NEED, YOU KNOW, THE BASIC PHYSICAL NEEDS OF HUMANS WHO ARE UNHOUSED, I DON'T SEE HOW AS, AS HUMANS OURSELVES, HOW, HOW WE'RE EVEN ADDRESSING THE PROBLEM.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE MOTEL SIX ON PCH DIDN'T WORK.
I I DON'T FAULT THE COMMUNITY IN, IN NOT MAKING THAT WORK.
THERE WERE OTHER THINGS WITH THAT LOCATION THAT IMPACTED, UM, THE, THE DECISIONS THAT THE COUNCIL MADE.
UM, THAT AT THE SAME TIME, JUST DRIVING HERE, YOU KNOW, I, I LIVED, UNFORTUNATELY, I LIVED IN THE VERY EAST, SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE CITY AND DRIVING HERE BECAUSE I HAD TO GO TO DOWNTOWN.
THERE ARE PEOPLE LITERALLY ALIVE, I THINK, WHO ARE ON OUR SIDEWALKS WITH THEIR BELONGINGS SCATTERED ALL OVER THE PLACE BETWEEN MY HOUSE AND HERE.
SO I UNDERSTAND THE BARRIERS, I UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THIS IS A HUMAN MADE PROBLEM.
OR, OR AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, BUT THAT WAS NOT MEANT TO SHUT DOWN THE CONVERSATION CONVERSATION.
MY THING IS ALWAYS, LET'S SEE HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO IMPROVE THE, THE HU HUMANITY SITUATION.
HOWEVER WE CAN TO, TO WORK TOGETHER, WORK TOGETHER AND, AND, AND COME UP WITH SOME SOLUTIONS INSTEAD OF ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT BARRIERS AND CHALLENGES.
THE, THE WHOLE, THE OUR OUR CURRENT POSITION IN TIME RIGHT NOW IS CHALLENGING FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT MOST CHALLENGING FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE UNHOUSED BECAUSE THEIR BASIC NEEDS ARE, ARE NOT BEING ADDRESSED.
AND SO IF WE COULD TAKE ANY PART OF OUR MEMO AND ANY PART OF OUR AGENDA AND SEE HOW WE CAN WORK ONE LITTLE PIECE OF IT AND MOVE FORWARD, I DON'T, I DON'T EVEN HAVE ANY PREFERENCES TO WHICH ONE IF, IF WE CAN WORK ON ONE AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN GET THAT DONE.
I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT WE WANT THESE SERVICES TO BE OFFERED.
IT'S JUST LIKE, IS THIS A GOOD MODEL FOR DOING THAT? IT MAY BE, IT MAY NOT BE, BUT I THINK HE'S JUST ASKING LIKE, YOU KNOW.
HE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND AND HOW, YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THE MECHANICS OF IT.
UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO TO ANY LIBRARY IN THIS CITY, ANY, IN THE COUNTY, IN THE COUNTRY, IF YOU GO TO ANY LIBRARY, YOU WILL FIND HOMELESS SERVICES IN THE LIBRARIES.
AND, AND THAT'S NOT APPROPRIATE BECAUSE LIBRARIES WEREN'T DESIGNED TO DO THAT.
BUT THEY HAVE BEEN THE FALLBACK AND THEY CONTINUE TO BE THE FALLBACK FOR PEOPLE TO GO TO THE BATHROOM TO SLEEP, JUST CHARGE THEIR PHONE TO WHATEVER THEY CAN DURING THE HOURS THAT THEY'RE OPEN.
SO I THINK, YEAH, I THINK THAT BRINGS UP AN INTERESTING POINT TOO.
AND NOT ONLY THE, POTENTIALLY THE TYPE OF FACILITY, BUT THEN POTENTIALLY THE TYPES OF SERVICES THAT WOULD BE OFFERED THERE TO, YOU KNOW, PERSUADE PEOPLE TO UTILIZE 'EM, RIGHT? BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE, THE LIBRARY, MAYBE IT'S INTERNET SERVICES, RIGHT? MAYBE IT'S THE ABILITY TO CHARGE THE PHONE.
MAYBE IT'S SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WERE SPEAKING ABOUT BEFORE, SO, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF LAUNDRY, BATHROOM FACILITIES.
SO I THINK, I THINK MAYBE IF WE, IT COULD BE THAT WE START THERE.
I'M NOT SURE, LIKE I SAID, DEPENDING ON HOW DO YOU WANT THE CONVERSATION TO GO, COULD BE THAT WE START AT DETERMINING LIKE WHAT TYPES OF SERVICES WE THINK ARE MISSING AND THEN HOW WE COULD POTENTIALLY EXPAND OR INCORPORATE THOSE TYPES OF SERVICES, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
I MEAN THERE ARE MODELS, UM, YOU KNOW, IN LA AND OTHER COMMUNITIES, UH, THE LA COUNTY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN THERE.
LA COUNTY JUST OPENED I THINK IN THE LAST YEAR OR SO.
UM, THE CARE CENTER, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, MENTAL HEALTH, PHYSICAL HEALTH, AND UM, I HEAR IT'S A, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL CAMPUS AND THAT A, A PHYSICIAN WHO WORKS THERE MM-HMM
UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF LA COUNTY IS INTERESTED IN DOING SOME SORT OF MODEL, IT, IT
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DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, IN LA IT COULD, IT LA COUNTY IS, IS ALL OVER THE PLACE.SO IF, IF WE CAN JUST FIGURE OUT HOW TO MEET SOME BASIC HUMAN NEEDS, WELL IF WE, IF WE VISUALIZE WHAT EXACTLY WE WANT.
NOW THE BASIC SERVICES INCLUDE CHARGING YOUR PHONE, RIGHT? MM-HMM
EVERYBODY NEEDS THEIR PHONE GOING TO THE BATHROOM, GETTING A PHONE IF YOU'VE LOST IT, BECAUSE THEY GET STOLEN AND LOST ALL THE TIME.
SO GETTING THE PHONE GOING TO THE BATHROOM.
CLIMATE CONTROL AND HARSH WEATHER, HUH? SHELTER, SHELTER, SHELTER, SHELTER FROM HARSH WEATHER.
PLACE TO SIT WITH YOUR BELONGINGS.
UH, A PLACE TO MAYBE EVEN A PLACE TO PICK UP YOUR MAIL.
IF, IF YOU HAVE ANY, UH, A PLACE TO TAKE A SHOWER, THAT WOULD BE GOOD, BUT PROBABLY NOT FEASIBLE.
BUT IF THAT WAS INCLUDED, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
UM, A PLACE TO GET A FREE BUS PASS, THEY OUT, THINK YOU CAN APPLY FOR YOUR BUS PASS AND YOU COULD APPLY FOR IT.
PICK IT UP THERE AT THAT PLACE.
I MEAN, 'CAUSE THEY MOVE AROUND A LOT, SO IF THEY KNOW WHERE THE BUS PASS IS GONNA BE, THEY'LL MAKE THE EFFORT TO GO THERE.
AND WHILE WE'RE AT IT AND THEY'RE DOING ALL THEIR BASIC STUFF, LIKE CHARGING THEIR PHONES AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THROWING IN A LOAD OF LAUNDRY, THEN WE CAN GET THEM MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.
WE CAN SIGN THEM UP FOR OTHER HOUSING.
THEY'LL BE RIGHT THERE AND THEY CAN CHECK WITH THEIR CASEWORKER.
THEY COULD CONTACT EMAIL, YOU KNOW, I MEAN YOU'RE, YOU'RE BASICALLY DESCRIBING SOME OF THE OPERATIONS OUT OF THE MULTI-SERVICE CENTER.
MAYBE THE MACK TRUCK MAYBE KNOW.
BUT, UM, SO IF, IF, IF ALL YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS A SATELLITE MULTI-SERVICE CENTER THAT'S OPEN 24 7, THEN THAT'S WHAT IT'S, WELL, EVEN WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE OPEN 24 7 IF THEY KNEW WHAT HOURS THAT THEY HAD TO DO.
WELL, SO PEOPLE HAVE TO HAVE BATHROOM ACCESS 24 7.
WELL, YEAH, THAT, THAT IS TRUE.
YOU DO HAVE TO GO TO THE BATHROOM 24 7, BUT, UM, IF POSSIBLY THE OFFICE AREA IS CLOSED, BUT THE BATHROOMS ARE OPEN 24 7, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO STAFF THEM OVERNIGHT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO APPLY FOR ANYTHING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, GONNA TAKE CARE OF THOSE VERY, VERY BASIC NEEDS, WHICH IS GOING KNOCK BASICALLY.
SO THE OUTDOOR, IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE OUTDOOR BATHROOM FACILITIES.
WELL, AND IF I COULD SHARE THE, I LIVED DOWNTOWN AND THIS MOST RECENT HEAVY RAIN, UH, IT WAS JUST DEVASTATING TO WATCH FOLKS WHO CAMP AROUND THE MAIN LIBRARY.
UH, PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING ON THE STREETS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE, YOU KNOW, HAVE TENTS OR QUASI TENTS.
UM, THIS WHOLE QUESTION OF HYPOTHERMIA, I MEAN, IT WAS REALLY, PEOPLE WERE JUST SOPPING WET AND EVERYTHING THEY OWNED GOT SCREWED UP, WHETHER IT WAS FOOD OR CLOTHING OR THEIR SLEEPING BAG OR, OR BLANKETS.
UM, AND IT JUST REALLY MADE ME
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I'M REALLY THINKING ABOUT REALLY PRIORITIZING SOME OF THESE BASIC SERVICES, THE BATHROOMS, THE LAUNDRY, THE CHARGING OF THEIR PHONES, YOU KNOW, STUFF THAT'S NOT GOING TO THE LEVEL OF TRYING TO, TO DO THE, THE CASE MANAGEMENT.AND TO ME THAT FEELS MORE DOABLE TO START WITH JUST THAT KIND OF LEVEL SO THAT PEOPLE AND THEIR THINGS, WHETHER IT'S GOOD OR BAD WEATHER, CAN GET OFF THE STREET.
WE HAVE FOUR OLDER WOMEN, THE, THEY LOOK LIKE THEY'RE 75, I'M SURE THEY'RE NOT, BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE, THAT IT, THEY CAN'T GET OFF THE STREET.
THEY, THEY SLEEP IN OUR DOOR FRONTS.
YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THEIR PILES OF, OF BELONGINGS.
AND JUST FOR THEM TO HAVE THIS SAFE, SAFER SPACE WHERE THEY COULD DO SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS TO GO TO THE BATHROOM, YOU KNOW, DO SOME JUST BASIC CLEANING TO GET THEIR, GET THEIR LAUNDRY DONE OR PUT STUFF IN A DRYER.
UM, I GUESS I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT LEVEL IS, IF WE COULD START THERE AND THEN AS WE SUCCEED AND ARE BUILDING UP CREDIBILITY WITH PEOPLE, WHICH I'M LEARNING IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S A REAL THING FOR PEOPLE TO TRUST AND TO, TO WANNA COMMUNICATE AND THINK ABOUT ARE THERE ALTERNATIVES IN FOR THEM IN THEIR LIVES RIGHT NOW.
I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT REALLY JUST SAYING, HEY, HERE'S SOME BASIC SERVICES.
AND THE, THE 24 7 IS REALLY IN MY OBSERVATION, CRITICAL, REALLY CRITICAL.
WELL, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY BUILDING ON OUR POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS OF THIS YEAR WHERE WE SAID, HEY, SHOWERS 24 7 TOILETS AND MAYBE SOME TRASH SERVICES, RIGHT.
THAT PEOPLE HAVE THE AUTONOMY TO ACCESS THEMSELVES MM-HMM
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE A FEW OTHER REALLY BASIC NEEDS ARE EMERGING, LIKE PHONE CHARGING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO MAYBE AS WE SEE, YOU KNOW, HOW THE DEPARTMENT IMPLEMENTS THINGS LIKE THE SHOWER TRUCK AND AS WE LOOK AT FUNDING, HOPEFULLY, UM, THESE A DA ACCESSIBLE, UH, PORTA-POTTIES MM-HMM
WE CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT CAN WE DO AND WHAT'S THE BEST CASE RECOMMENDATION? SO I'M GLAD WE STARTED OFF THIS DISCUSSION AND I LIKE THE IDEA THAT JOSEPH RECOMMENDED AND THAT YOU KICKED US OFF WITH OF WHAT ARE THOSE BASIC SERVICES THAT WE THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ACCESS.
WE COULD, WE COULD START WITH ONE OR TWO, YOU KNOW, AND SEE THAT IF THAT GETS IMPLEMENTED PROPERLY, THEN WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO EXPAND IT JUST A LITTLE BIT.
AND IF THAT WORKS, WE MIGHT EVENTUALLY DO SOMETHING.
AND I'M EXCITED TO SAY THAT OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM MIGHT TOUCH ON THAT.
AND, UM, IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSIONS BEFORE WE WE LEAVE THIS ONE? UM, I KNOW THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE, BUT WE, WE HAVE SOME NEW MEMBERS HERE.
UM, AS THEY WERE TALKING, AND I AM SO SORRY TO BE THE HISTORIAN HERE, BUT I HAVE BEEN HERE TOO LONG.
UM, THERE IS 1955 LONG BEACH BOULEVARD, WHICH WAS PURCHASED AND UM, DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED TO BE A DROP-IN CENTER FOR PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
AND IT, IT WAS COMPLETED IN 2019 AND NEVER OPENED.
AND IT HAS LOCKERS AND IT HAS WASHERS AND DRYERS AND IT HAS SOME SHOWERS AND RESTROOMS AND A COMMUNITY ROOM WOW.
AND, UM, I MEAN, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO BE COST EFFECTIVE THAT CITY OWNED PROPERTY IS, IS STILL NOT OPEN.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC? THAT LOCATION JUST RINGS TRUE TO ME.
AND WELL THEN PEOPLE THAT ARE DOWNTOWN.
SO IT, IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE ACCESSIBILITY TO, TO CONTINUE THE HISTORY OF THAT.
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WAS A CITY AUDIT OF LEASES AND USE OF CITY SPACE THAT SAID, BECAUSE THAT THERE'S A LEASE TO A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION THAT OFFERS SERVICES THERE.UM, THE CITY AUDIT SAID, OOH, THIS WASN'T A GOOD DEAL FOR THE CITY.
BECAUSE THE PRIVATE ORGANIZATION IS NOT OFFERING THE FULL RANGE OF WHAT THEY HAD PROPOSED TO OFFER INITIALLY.
UM, SO THE PRIVATE ORGANIZATION NOW TO THE LAST TIME I TOURED THAT FACILITY, UM, SAID THAT THEY'RE OFFERING THOSE SHOWERS AND BATHROOMS TO VETERANS BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THEY CAN, UM, PAY THEIR BILLS.
AND SO THEY, THEY GOT A GRANT I THINK FROM VETERAN SERVICES, UM, BUT THAT THEY WILL NOT BE OPEN TO KIND OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS FOR SHOWER, UM, SERVICES.
AND SO I BELIEVE THEY'VE DISCONTINUED THEIR CONTRACT WITH THE CITY, UM, TO OFFER THOSE SERVICES.
AND SO, SO THAT IS WHERE IT STANDS.
BUT I THINK THERE'S TERMS IN THE LEASE THAT AFTER A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME, THE PRIVATE ORGANIZATION IS GOING TO OWN THAT BUILDING.
SO WHAT, TO BE CLEAR, IT'S ALSO A TRADE FOR AN ANOTHER BUILDING.
SO, AND THIS IS, IT WAS A COMPLICATED THING.
BUT THE EAST SIDE STATION IS WHAT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE, THE POLICE STATION MHA OWNED THAT BUILDING AND THIS WAS KIND OF A TRADE FOR THAT BUILDING.
SO IT'S A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED THAN, OH MY GOD.
BUT SO WE HAVE, SO, SO INSTEAD OF SERVING THE, THE POPULATION OF HOMELESS THAT WE NEED, WE ARE CREATING ANOTHER POLICE DISH.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED IT AND IT WASN'T, YEAH.
THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT, THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS ON THAT.
DO YOU WANT TO, YOU WANT THE HIST OR AT LEAST THE HISTORY AS I KNOW WE TALK ABOUT.
JOSEPH, DID YOU GET WHAT YOU NEEDED TO COMPILE A PRESENTATION? ARE PEOPLE STILL LOOKING FOR A PRESENTATION FROM JOSEPH BEYOND THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT THE NEW YORK CITY DROP IN CENTERS? I THINK IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SITUATION.
THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING SOME THOROUGH QUESTIONS AND INFORMATION.
AND I THINK, I THINK IT ALSO JUST PROVIDES SOME REGARDS, SOME CLARITY MM-HMM
ON WHAT YOU'RE ALL LOOKING FOR AS WELL.
UM, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE SOME KIND OF EXPANDED FACILITY SIMILAR TO THE MSC PROVIDE A LOT OF THOSE SERVICES, BUT OUTSIDE OF THOSE HOURS MM-HMM
SO I DEFINITELY THINK THAT'S CLEAR.
THANKS FOR PROVIDING SUCH LEVEL OF DETAIL.
I MEAN, SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS HAVING SOME TRASH CAN SERVICES IN AN AREA WHERE THAT HAS QUITE A FEW HOMELESS PEOPLE.
I PERSONALLY NO ONE ENCAMPMENT WHO HAS BEEN BEGGING FOR TRASH SERVICES BECAUSE THEY WANT TO KEEP IT CLEAN.
WELL THOSE ARE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT'S, THERE ARE TRASH SERVICES THERE.
THEY EVEN ASKED THE, UM, THERE'S A TRASH COMPANY RIGHT NEXT TO THEM.
THEY ASKED THEM IF THEY COULD HAVE ONE OF THEIR BIDS TO PUT TRASH CABINETS IN AND THEY, SO THEY WOULDN'T GIVE US FLAG THAT.
'CAUSE AS WE KIND OF GO THROUGH THE YEAR AND TALK WITH THE CITY ABOUT MAYBE IMPLEMENTING OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, THAT MIGHT BE A SITE, RIGHT.
THAT WE WOULD SAY LET'S PILOT THE TRASH BIN THERE.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD IF IT STILL EXISTS.
ALRIGHT, WELL, ALL IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING THIS ITEM.
NUMBER FOUR, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A DISCUSSION ON MAKING A PROJECT FUNDING RECOMMENDATION TO THE MAYOR.
IS THERE A MOTION TO DISCUSS? I'LL MOVE.
UM, SO WE, WE RAISED THIS TOPIC IN OUR LAST MEETING AND SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT IDENTIFYING ANYTHING, BUT WOULD WE WANT TO DISCUSS AS A POLICY COMMITTEE MAY BE SUGGESTING TO HAYSTACK OR TO THE MAYOR'S FUND A SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION? UM, FOR I THINK TWO REASONS.
ONE IS THAT THERE IS A FAIR AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THE MAYOR'S FUND THAT ISN'T BEING REQUESTED.
SO THE THOUGHT IS LET'S GET THIS OUT THERE TO ASSIST PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS RATHER THAN HAVING IT SITTING THERE IN A BANK ACCOUNT.
AND TWO, UM, WE COULD POTENTIALLY FUND SOME OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS IF THEY'RE NOT OTHERWISE FUNDED IN THE CITY BUDGET.
WE DON'T WANT TO DUPLICATE IF THE FUNDING IS THERE IN THE CITY BUDGET, WE WANT THAT TO GO FORWARD.
BUT IF THERE IS NOT FUNDING AVAILABLE IN THE CITY BUDGET, WE THOUGHT IN SOME LIMITED CASES, PERHAPS THE MAYOR'S FUND COULD FUND, YOU KNOW, PILOT PROJECTS OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
UM, SO I DID SEND OVER TO PAUL AND I'M REALLY GLAD YOU'RE HERE PAUL.
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THESE ARE NOT THINGS I'M SAYING WE SHOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE MAYOR'S FUND FUND, THEY'RE JUST FOR DISCUSSION TO START THE CONVERSATION.UM, SO THERE'S THREE ITEMS HERE AND I HAD ASKED, YOU KNOW, PAUL, I KNOW YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT YOUR BUDGET LOOKS LIKE FOR THE YEAR OR WHAT IS ALREADY FUNDED.
UM, BUT ASK, YOU KNOW, OF THESE ITEMS, ARE THERE THINGS THAT WE'RE JUST SEEING A SHORTFALL IN FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FUNDING OR WE DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITHOUT THE MAYOR'S FUND.
IS THERE SOMETHING THAT PAUL WOULD SAY, OOH, THIS IS WHAT WOULD REALLY IMPACT THE MOST? SO THREE POTENTIAL IDEAS AND OPEN TO ALL OF YOUR IDEAS ARE ALLOCATING FUNDING FOR ONE STAFFED OVERNIGHT TOILET IN A HIGH NEED AREA.
AND THIS IS BASED ON LIKE A, A PORTA POTTY.
THAT 80 AND MAYBE MY NUMBERS ARE WRONG.
SO WELCOME TO GET FEEDBACK ON THAT AS WELL.
UM, BUT THIS IS BASED ON JUST RENTAL RATES AND THEN WHAT I ASSUMED MAYBE, YOU KNOW, STAFF HOURLY RATES ARE.
UM, I THINK YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO WAIT OUTSIDE JIM.
WE'RE STILL RUNNING JIM FORUM ISSUE.
I KNOW, BUT WE HAVE TOO MANY PEOPLE HERE.
I'LL BE, I'LL BE THE PUBLIC FOR A WHILE.
NO, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN EVEN BE.
IT'S BECAUSE WITH THIS IT'S BEEN PUBLICIZED AS A MEETING.
BUT EVEN WHEN IT'S PUBLICIZED AS A MEETING, UHHUH, THE GUIDANCE HAS REALLY BEEN TO YOU.
IT'S ONE THING FOR LIKE A LARGER PUBLIC CONVENING THAT'S NOT ALMOST RELATED.
HOWEVER, THIS IS A ASAC MEETING AND HAVING SIX MEMBERS IN THE ROOM WHEN IT'S NOT PUBLISHED AS A FULL, A FULL FORUM HAAC MEETING.
WHAT IF HE WAS SILENT FOR THE ENTIRE, THAT HE REALLY IS NOT PARTICIPATING, WHICH IS THE ISSUE.
I WILL NOT ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE PUBLIC, WE DON'T HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT JENNIFER.
THERE ARE NO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC PRESENT AT THE MOMENT.
DO CAN WE PROCEED OR SHOULD JIM WAIT OUTSIDE? THERE'S NO WAY TO WAIT OUTSIDE.
WE COULD PUT A CHAIR IN THE HALLWAY.
WELL, THERE'S A REALLY NICE LOUNGE AREA.
JUST DON'T PARTICIPATE IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.
WE WERE JUST GETTING TO THE JUICY PART ACTUALLY THAT PERTAINS TO HIS COMMITTEE.
SO YOU KNOW, ONE OPTION IS THAT WE COULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE MAYOR'S FUND OR HAY HAYSTACK MORE BROADLY TO DISCUSS FUNDING.
UM, OUR COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION THE OVERNIGHT TOILET FOR A YEAR WITH STAFFING.
ANOTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO ALLOCATE FUNDING FOR STAFFING FOR THE MOBILE SHOWER TRUCK IF THERE IS NOT OTHER FUNDING IN THE CITY BUDGET.
LIKE IF WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S, WE HAVE A TRUCK BUT THERE'S NO MONEY TO STAFF IT, WE COULD FUND THAT FOR A YEAR.
AND THEN OPTION THREE IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HEARING ABOUT FEDERAL CUTS TO SHELTER BEDS.
I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S COME TO FRUITION.
I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE A SHORTAGE THERE, BUT IF WE'RE HEARING THAT SHELTER BEDS ARE BEING CUT DUE TO FEDERAL CUTS, THEN PERHAPS IT'S APPROPRIATE, UM, TO FUND, YOU KNOW, TWO SPACES FOR A YEAR WITH INTENSIVE CASE MANAGEMENT.
SO THIS IS ALL PENDING WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING ON IN THE CITY BUDGET, BUT I JUST PUT IT OUT THERE FOR DISCUSSION AND MAYBE PAUL'S FEEDBACK OF WHAT HE KNOWS OF WHAT IS CURRENTLY FUNDED AND WHAT ISN'T.
I THINK THE MORE IMPORTANT THING AND KIND OF, SORRY IT'S TRYING TO GET BOTH ALLISON AND THERESA TO WEIGH IN AS WELL.
UM, THE BIGGER QUESTION I THINK AT HAND IS THIS IS A MAJOR, THIS WOULD BE A MAJOR DEPARTURE FROM HOW THE MAYOR'S FUND HAS BEEN UTILIZED IN THE PAST.
AND THE UNDERSTANDING FOR MANY IN WHAT THE MAYOR'S FUND COVERS.
THAT'S NOT TO SAY IT CAN'T BE DONE, BUT THAT WOULD BE A MAJOR CHANGE.
I THINK FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE WOULD WANT TO SEE, UM, THAT TO BE A POLICY CONVERSATION WITH THE FULL, UH, HAYSTACK COMMITTEE.
AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY IS IN FAVOR OF MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR AROUND THAT.
LIKE, AS THE MAYOR'S FUND, THE MAYOR SHOULD BE ON BOARD WITH HOW THE MAYOR'S FUND IS BEING UTILIZED.
UH, SO THAT'S NOT GETTING INTO THE PROPOSALS THEMSELVES.
UM, SO THAT WAS OUR LARGER PIECE.
AS FAR AS PROPOSALS IN THE BUDGET, LIKE WE ARE STILL AT A POINT WHERE OUR BUDGET IS A LITTLE BIT NEBULOUS,
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THERE IS A BOARD OF SUPERVISOR MOTION TOMORROW THAT WOULD RESTORE SOME OF OUR MEASURE A FUNDING THAT WE WERE WORRIED, UH, COULD BE CUT THAT WOULDN'T IMPACT US.
YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD'VE GONE INTO EFFECT JULY OF THIS YEAR.
THIS MAY EXTEND TO ANOTHER YEAR.
UH, SO THAT MOTION IS TOMORROW TO RESTORE SOME OF OUR MEASURE A COC FUNDING WHERE WE WERE GONNA RECEIVE A FULL CUT ON SOME OF THE MEASURE A FUNDING.
UH, ON THE STATE SIDE, THE BUDGET IS A LITTLE MORE FUZZY.
UH, THE MAYOR'S OR THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET SHOULD BE COMING OUT IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO.
UH, RUMBLINGS ARE THAT IT'S OUT.
UH, HIS STATE OF THE STATE OF THE STATE WAS LAST FRIDAY AND HE KIND OF POINTED TO A FEW THINGS, BUT THE DETAIL SAYS FULL DETAIL, BUT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK.
UH, IT IS ANTICIPATED BASED ON WHAT HE SAID, THAT THERE WILL NOT BE ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR HOMELESSNESS.
THAT ACTUALLY DOESN'T HIT US UNTIL MID 2027 BASICALLY.
'CAUSE THERE IS ALREADY HALF AROUND SEVEN THAT WAS IN THE BUDGET, UH, THAT WAS ADOPTED FOR THIS YEAR.
UM, SO THIS ONE, THIS WOULD BE NEXT YEAR'S IMPACT.
UH, AND HALF SEVEN APPLICATIONS HAVEN'T EVEN GONE OUT YET.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND ON THAT.
AND THAT MAY NOT BE THE, AN IMPACT UNTIL A YEAR FROM NOW.
UM, THE, AND THE STATE LEGISLATURE WILL GET TO ALSO VOTE ON THE BUDGET LAST YEAR IF PEOPLE REMEMBER THE GOVERNOR ALSO RECOMMENDED ZERO FUNDING IN THE POT OF HOMELESSNESS.
AND THE STATE LEGISLATURE SAID NO, WE NEED TO MAINTAIN SELF-FUNDING THERE.
SO LIKELY, HOPEFULLY THAT IS WHAT OCCUR AGAIN.
UM, THAT THERE IS INDEED ZERO FUNDING RECOMMENDED BY THE GOVERNOR.
AND THEN ON THE FEDERAL SIDE COURT CASE IS ONGOING.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE CURRENTLY HOW STANDS IS WE CAN RENEW WHAT WE APPLIED FOR LAST YEAR.
HOWEVER, THAT'S BARRING THE, OR THAT'S THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW AWAITING RULING FROM THE JUDGE.
SO ARE HOPEFUL THAT THE JUDGE WILL SAY YEAH, RENEW THE APPLICATIONS.
AS IS THE JUDGE KIND OF FORCED TODD'S HAND INTO ESTABLISHING A PROCESS FOR RENEWALS.
SO ISSUED THE PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION, THEY HAD TO PUBLISH A PROCESS FOR RENEWALS.
HOWEVER, HUD HAS CONTINUED TO STAY.
WE'RE ONLY DOING THIS 'CAUSE WE HAVE TO MM-HMM
WE YET EVERY INTENTION OF REPLACING WE'RE NOT GONNA OUR OWN NOFO.
AND SO LUCKILY, QUOTE UNQUOTE, LUCKILY FOR US, OUR PROJECTS START JULY 1ST.
THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS THAT START FEBRUARY 1ST ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHETHER OR NOT THEY'LL GET FUNDING AND THEY'LL HAVE TO OPERATE FOR MANY MONTHS.
BECAUSE EVEN IF WE WERE TO SUBMIT TOMORROW, THEY'RE NOT GONNA, THEY SAID THE EARLIEST THEY'LL EVEN ANNOUNCE ANYTHING IS LIKE MARCH.
SO
THAT ARE ENJOINED, UH, YOU KNOW, LATER THIS MONTH, BEGINNING OF NEXT MONTH.
THAT BEING SAID, EVEN IF THEY SAY CONTINUE WITH THE RENEWALS AS WAS INITIALLY, INITIALLY ANTICIPATED, THEY WILL BE MORE ON TOP OF IT AS MY GUESS.
AND THEY WILL PROBABLY RELEASE A NOFO FOR NEXT YEAR MUCH QUICKER SO THAT WE CAN ANTICIPATE THAT THERE'D PROBABLY BE A NOFO AND MAYOR JUNE OF THIS COMING OR OF THIS YEAR THAT WOULD THEN PUT TOGETHER OR WOULD IMPACT OUR FUNDING FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
SO THAT, YOU KNOW, AS IT'S CONSTITUTED, I THINK, WELL WE'RE GONNA LOSE MONEY.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, IS THERE THE POSSIBILITY THAT WE GET BACK THE FUNDING THAT WE HAD AND IT JUST LOOKS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT THE NOFO IS WRITTEN IN A WAY THAT WE ARE GOING TO LOSE POINTS FOR WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.
AND LIKE IT IS PUNITIVE FOR STANCES THAT YOU HAVE TAKEN AS A COMMUNITY.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, PUNITIVE FOR THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, HAVING MORE THAN TWO GENDERS THAT YOU RECOGNIZE, UH, TAKING STANCES AROUND DEI AS A COMMUNITY,
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YOU KNOW, HARM REDUCTION HOUSING FIRST.THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS THAT AS WE LOOK AT THE VE VARIOUS BOXES, WE LOOK AT THE DOCUMENTS, WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, NEWS ARTICLES, ACTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS TAKEN.
THERE'S NO ERASING THAT LIKE IT EXISTS.
UM, I MEAN TECHNICALLY IF THEY GO TO ANY OTHER CITY OF LONG BEACH, UH RIGHT.
IT GIVES THE CITY OF LONG BEACH AS A COLLABORATIVE APPLICANT.
IF ANY OTHER PARTNERS IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH HAVE ANY OF THESE POLICIES, DEI POLICIES, THEY COULD THEN USE THAT AS WELL AND GETTING ALIGNMENT ACROSS THE CITY TO SCRUB ALL DEI POLICIES.
PROBABLY, HOPEFULLY MORE TRYING YOU LIKE EVEN IF YOU WANTED TO, TO BENEFIT, LIKE TRYING TO GET THIS POT OF MONEY, WHICH I DON'T THINK IS YEAH.
A WISE DECISION, BUT EVEN IF YOU TRY TO DO IT, NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
SO ONLY ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION ON THAT.
'CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING.
WE'RE STABLE FOR POTENTIALLY THE NEXT YEAR IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
SO THEN HOPEFULLY IT'S, HERE'S, HERE'S THE, HERE'S THE THING, I'M DONE DEAL.
DON'T WE HAVE TO, DON'T WE HAVE TO RUN THIS BY SOME SORT OF CITY ATTORNEY TO SEE IF WE'RE ABLE TO SPEND THAT MONEY OR THE, UH, NOT THE CITY ATTORNEY, THE, UM, MAYOR, WHOEVER RUNS THE MAYOR'S FUND, NOT THE, NOT THE HO PEOPLE, BUT, SO TO SEE IF THIS WOULD BE POSSIBLE BEFORE WE START TALKING ABOUT HOW WE THINK THEY SHOULD USE THE MONEY.
PAUL WAS THERE SOME PRECEDENT? I HEARD THAT IT HAS BEEN THERE, THERE'S YEAH, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF, UM, INDIVIDUAL RESTRICTIONS ON THE MAYOR'S FARM.
SO THERE'S CERTAINLY WAYS IF, IF, IF THE ENTIRE HAYSTACK WANTED TO DO THIS AND IF THE MAYOR HIMSELF IS ALIGNED WHO CAME WITH IT, THEN UM, WE CAN DO WHAT WE WANT.
THAT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT PUBLIC FUNDS.
I, I LOOKED BACK OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS AND IT LOOKED LIKE THE COMMITTEE, AT LEAST AT ONE POINT, DID ALLOCATE A PRETTY LARGE AMOUNT OF FUNDING.
LIKE MAYBE 80 TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR LIKE A SPECIFIC SERVICE OR PILOT PROJECT IT WANTED TO SEE.
SO IT SEEMS FEASIBLE IF SAC MORE BROADLY JIM'S COMMITTEE ALL AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
ALSO ON THE, UH, OVERNIGHT STAFFING OF THE BATHROOM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE WAYS OF GETTING A SELF-CLEANING BATHROOM TRAILER THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE STAFFING.
I THINK THAT'S A DETAILED ASPECT OF THE PROPOSAL.
LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THIS IS AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT STAFFING WOULD EVEN COST.
SO, BUT THAT, I'LL I'LL MAKE A NOTE OF IT.
THAT THAT, 'CAUSE THERE'S ONE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, AT LEAST ONE OR TWO THAT SEEN THERE'S THREE ACROSS.
THOSE, THOSE ARE FINE FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE WORKING PHONES TO ACCESS.
BUT I'VE SEEN MANY HOMELESS PEOPLE UNABLE TO ACCESS THE THRONES.
I MEAN FOR THE TOP I LIKE, I LIKE THE TOPIC.
UM, I, UM, THE KIND OF, MY, THE BIG THEME FOR ME IS I WOULD HATE TO START SOMETHING THAT IS FUNDED FOR ONE YEAR AND GOES AWAY.
IT'S A YEAR OF CARING, BUT I THINK I MIGHT BE MORE INTERESTED IN SOMETHING THAT MIGHT HAVE A LONGEVITY TO IT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE QUESTION I HAVE.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEN HOW WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT? I MEAN, SO IF THE MAYOR'S FUND CURRENTLY HAS X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS IN IT, DOES IT REPLENISH $50,000 A YEAR THAT YOU COULD START SOMETHING WITH 50 AND KEEP IT GOING WITH THE REPLENISHED FUNDS SO THAT YOU'RE NOT DOING A ONE YEAR THING? IS IT SOMETHING THAT IS SMALLER AND SCALE LIKE TRASH BINS AT FIVE SITES OR THREE SITES OR, OR MAYBE EVEN UH, PORTA POTTIES.
WELL, SOMETHING, QUARTER POTTY SERVICE, SOMETHING THAT'S NOT LATE DOESN'T INVOLVE STAFFING AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT YOU KNOW, SOMETHING AGAIN, FOR THE COMFORT, THAT COULD BE A PILOT AND, AND THEN THAT WOULDN'T BE 70,000, BUT IT MIGHT BE A SMALLER AMOUNT THAT, THAT THE FUNDS COULD CONTINUE.
OR IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT THEN THE CITY SEES AND SAYS, HEY, IT'S DOING A GOOD JOB, WE'LL TAKE IT OVER.
AND THAT'S THE THOUGHT ON THE PILOT OF, WE SAID THIS IS ONE OF OUR TWO RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE YEAR IS GREATER SHELTER RATES AND HYGIENE SERVICES.
SO THE THOUGHT OF PROVIDING A PILOT WOULD BE TO SAY, TO MEASURE LOTS OF PEOPLE USED IT, HERE'S THE IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS CLEAN.
SO IT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE THE POINT TO
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KIND OF MAKE THE CASE.AND AGAIN, FROM THE FUNDING ISSUES, I THINK ANYTHING INVOLVING STAFFING, ANYTHING WITH THOSE COSTS, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE KIND OF BREAK POINT IS OF THIS, BUT IS 70,000 MAYBE SOMETHING THAT IS A PILOT AMOUNT THAT THE CITY MIGHT BE ABLE TO ABSORB, BUT I WOULD HATE TO HAVE IT BE SOMETHING THAT GETS LAUNCHED AND THEN OH, WE DON'T HAVE YOUR MONEY FOR IT.
UH, I I MEAN I, WE COULD, IF YOU FEEL LIKE THAT SERVICE PROVIDING THE BATHROOM SERVICES FOR ONE YEAR IS MORE IMPACTFUL, MAYBE TRASH CANS FOR ONGOING.
SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW I'M THINKING ABOUT IT.
PILOT, WHAT CAN WE DO FOR COMFORT? WHAT COULD BE SUSTAINED? WHAT'S IN THE, BUT WHAT, WHAT IS AN AMOUNT THAT IS NOT, IS TOO HIGH FOR THE, FOR THE, THE THE FUND AND THEN ALSO FOR BEING TAKEN OVER BY THE CITY.
'CAUSE WE DON'T, OR WHAT IS MORE MODEST? WE DON'T FOR THIS PURPOSE, DON'T CIPHER OFF ALL THE FUNDS.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE, THE MAYOR'S FUND ALLOCATED LAST YEAR, IT'S NOT A TON.
I THINK WHAT IS OUR BALANCE? LIKE 180,000 FUND? I THINK IT'S LIKE ONE BETWEEN ONE 60 AND ONE 70.
AND I I THINK WE ONLY ISSUED ABOUT 50,000 IN, SO WE'RE NOT GETTING REQUESTED PERCENTAGE RATHER THAN A YEAH.
AND I THINK IT KIND OF RUN, YOU CAN'T HAVE COMMENTS FROM OVER HERE, BUT I THINK IT, IT, IT'S, IT RUNS A PRETTY GOOD BALANCE YEAR AFTER YEAR.
IT'S BEEN PRETTY, IT IS BEEN PRETTY STEADY.
STEADY FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
UM, AND TRADITIONALLY THE MAYORS FUND, WHETHER IT'S A CAPITAL PROJECT OR A, UM, MORE DISCRETIONARY PROJECT, IT IS USUALLY A ONE YEAR PERIOD THAT IT FUNDS.
UM, SO THAT IS SORT OF THE OKAY.
AND SO A PILOT TRADITIONALLY IS A ONE YEAR ONE YEAR YES.
SO I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING, JUST TO WRAP ME UP, I, I, I LIKE THE PILOT.
I WOULD BE MORE THAN WILLING TO CONSIDER IT, BUT I JUST WOULDN'T WANT TO ALEC, YOU KNOW, DO A PILOT THAT'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
IT TAKES ALL, TAKES ALL THE MONEY.
IT'S NOT BEING REPLENISHED AND IT'S MORE THAN THE CITY CAN MANAGE TO TAKE IT OVER.
IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE? AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
MAYBE IT'S TRASH CANS, SMALLER SCALE IS 20 OR 30,000 AND THEN IT'S SOMETHING WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE ABLE TO SHOW RESULTS THAT THE CITY CAN TAKE OVER, COULD A FEW PORTA-POTTIES OUT THERE, WHATEVER THAT SERVICE YEAH.
WHATEVER, WHATEVER COSTS IS COST EFFECTIVE.
CAN IT BE A PILOT THAT KEEPS GOING? I MEAN, RIGHT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, LIKE FUNDING BETS IS PRETTY TOUGH.
LIKE DOESN'T NEED A COMMITMENT.
AND I MEAN, IF IT WAS, WE WERE FACING A DEFICIT AND WE'RE GONNA LOSE THESE BETS AND MAYBE IT'S, YOU KNOW, A CONVERSATION.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE, WE'RE NOT THERE AT THE MOMENT.
SO LIKE GOOD TO KNOW RIGHT NOW, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND AND I DON'T THINK IT MAKES SENSE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE MM-HMM
UM, AND OUR NEEDS ON THE CITY SIDE.
UM, SO I WOULD LIKE IF THE GROUP, IF THE LARGER COMMITTEE AGREES, LIKE, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO PURSUE POLICY WISE AND COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION, I WOULD RECOMMEND NOT ON THE SHELTER SIDE AND THINKING THAT'S HELPFUL.
SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF BEING DISCUSSED AND THE FIRST TWO MAKE A LOT OF SENSE BECAUSE THEY'RE IN LINE WITH OUR CURRENT RECOMMENDATIONS OF, WE THINK THAT SHOULD EXIST IN THE CITY.
SO IF WE HAVE THE MONEY TO PUT TOWARD IT AND STILL HAVE A REMAINDER, WE CAN DEMONSTRATE IT'S AN IMPORTANT SERVICE.
WELL, AND IF I, MY COMMENT IS THAT, UM, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY AND THE REALITY OF THE CITY'S BUDGETS AND THE SOURCES.
UM, BUT WHAT I'M HEARING IS FROM THE, FROM THE MAYOR'S COMMENTS AND STATEMENTS IS AN EMPHASIS ON WHATEVER THE HELL WE DO, WE NEED TO EVALUATE IT.
AND TO MY THINKING IS THAT FOCUSING ON A PILOT WITH WHATEVER CONTENT THERE IS TO IT, THEN REALLY DOES ALLOW THE, THE MAYOR'S FUND TO SET EVALUATION CRITERIA THAT'S SHARPER THAN WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE
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THE FUND FUNDS A WHOLE RANGE OF STUFF.UM, AND IT ALSO SEEMS TO ME THAT WE'RE POTENTIALLY IS THE HSAC IF PEOPLE ARE WANT TO DO THIS, WE ARE SENDING, WE'RE SUPPORTING THIS EXPECTATION THAT WE NEED TO EXPERIMENT AND WE NEED TO ASSESS WHAT WE'RE DOING INSTEAD OF RESPONDING TO RELATIVELY MODEST, UH, PROPOSALS THAT COME IN FOR THE MAYOR'S FUND.
AND JUST PERSONALLY, I WOULD BE WAY MORE MOTIVATED IN CONTRIBUTING TO THE MAYOR'S FUND IF IN FACT, INSTEAD OF BUYING SHOES, ALL THESE YEAH, I'M JUST, SORRY.
I MEAN, I JUST, WHAT, WHAT WOULD MOTIVATE ME IS FOR THE CITY TO SAY, HEY, WE ARE GONNA EXPERIMENT.
WE'VE HEARD WHAT THE COMMUNITY SAYS, WE ARE GOING TO EXPERIMENT AND THEN WE'RE GONNA EVALUATE WHAT WE DID AND IF WE HAD A GOOD IDEA, LOOK OUT, WE'RE GOING TO DO MORE WITH IT AND IF WE'RE GONNA DO MORE, GIVE US MORE MONEY.
AND SO, HEY, I WOULD SIGN UP THEN
IF YOU WERE, IF WE WERE MORE SPECIFIC ON WHAT WE WERE FUNDING, THEN WE PROBABLY WOULD GET MORE DONATIONS IF YOU AGREED WITH THE PURPOSE OF THE FUNDS.
ALRIGHT, WELL I APPRECIATE YOU ALL.
WE'RE AT 3 0 1 AND I KNOW, UM, JIM'S HERE FOR THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING.
SO, UM, ALL IN FAVOR OF RECEIVING AND FILE THIS DISCUSSION.
A AND THEN OUR LAST ITEM IS, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND TRIAL DISCUSSION OF FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. IS THERE A MOTION? IS THERE A SECOND? DOES ANYONE HAVE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS IN OUR NEXT WEEK? I'LL BE READY AT THE NEXT WEEK FOR STAFF CLARITY BEFORE I LEAVE.
THAT WAS A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
ARE YOU CONTINUING CONVERSATION AROUND THAT OR ARE YOU WANTING TO TAKE IT TO THE LARGER FULL COMMITTEE? JUST FOR STAFFING PURPOSES.
OH, DO WE FEEL READY TO PRESENT THIS TO SAC, THIS TO HAAG? NO, I, ME NOT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT JUST THE CONCEPT, BROADER CONCEPT THAT POLICY, THE COMMITTEE WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO HAAG, WHICH HAAG WOULD THEN DISCUSS.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO AMEND THE MOTION.
TO CONTINUE THE BROAD DISCUSSION.
TO RAISE THIS NOW AND WITH HAY WITH OUR MEETING.
MY, MY SUGGESTION FOR THE FUTURE IS THAT WE COME BACK WITH BOARD DISCUSSIONS ON WHAT WE'RE SEE ON BOTH TOPICS OR SPECIFICALLY THE ORIGINAL TOPIC ABOUT THE, UM, DROP IN CENTER IDEA.
WHAT DO WE WANT TO SEE IN THAT DROP IN AND BY AND PRIORITIZE WHAT YOU PUT ON THERE.
LIKE WHAT IS THE FIRST THING YOU THINK WE SHOULD START WITH IF WE DO THIS? OKAY.
WHAT IS THE SECOND HIGHEST PRIORITY FOR YOU IF WE DO THIS? AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK WITH OUR LIST, COMPARE OUR LIST TO EACH OTHER AND THEN SEE WHICH ONES WE WANT TO FOCUS ON.
MY SUGGESTION IS THAT ALRIGHT? NOTED.
ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? ALRIGHT.
THIS HAS BEEN A GOOD, THANK YOU SARAH.
THANK UM, GIVE US A CONTEXT ALL IN FAVOR OF A JURY.
WELL, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO FUTURE GENERAL YES.
ITEMS, I MEAN I STILL FEEL LIKE THERE'S A CONTINUATION OF THIS DISCUSSION.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A, YOU KNOW, NEW PROPOSALS OR I STILL THINK THERE'S HEARING MORE ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE SHOWERS.
DEFINITELY THIS CONCEPT OF, IT'S KIND OF THE, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE SHOWERS, THIS CONCEPT OF COMFORT AND SUPPORT.
AND THEN IS THERE A WAY TO TAP INTO THE MAYOR'S FUND WITH THIS WITHOUT SORT OF DAMAGING THE INTENT OF THE MAYOR'S FUND.
WHICH IS PROBABLY TO HAVE A RESERVE FOR THE NEEDS, BUT THEN AT THE SAME TIME YOU DON'T NEED TO CARRY A BALANCE OF 150,000.
MAYBE YOU CARRY A BALANCE OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND AND USE 50,000.
UM, SO AGAIN, I THINK MORE DISCUSSION ON ALL OF THIS.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL CARRY THE ITEMS OVER.
ALL IN FAVOR OF RECEIVING AND FILING.
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YOU.