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WELL, HERE WE ARE.WHERE ARE YOU? IT IS THREE O'CLOCK.
IT'S, LET ME GET MY AGENDA IN FRONT OF ME.
AND, UH, I'M GONNA DO ROLL CALL.
UHHUH, I'M GONNA DO ROLL CALL.
THE FIRST ITEM WOULD BE APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE MARITIME SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING OF MONDAY, NOVEMBER 10TH.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED.
UH, ANY COMMENTS, ANY QUESTIONS, CORRECTIONS, ET CETERA.
AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, THERE'S NO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC PRESENT.
WE CAN DO ALMOST ANYTHING WE WANT.
SO IT SAYS THE LONG BEACH BUSINESS JOURNAL.
THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR TO SEE HOW WE DID.
SO YOU HAVE A COPY RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF YOU.
THAT IS, SO THAT'S THE MOST REASON THAT WE HAVE, HUH? SO YEAH, THE ENDING BALANCE AS OF OCTOBER, 2025 WAS 1 73, 3 5, AND 55 CENTS.
UM, HOWEVER, I DID ISSUE A FEW PAYMENTS THIS LAST WEEK.
THEIR LAST, UH, REIMBURSEMENT OF 69 68 WAS ISSUED AND THEN DISABLED RESOURCES, THEY WERE ISSUED A REIMBURSEMENT OF THE FULL 10,000 WHEN, AND PRICELESS INVESTORS ALSO HAD A REIMBURSEMENT OF $8,982 THIS LAST WEEK.
WHEN, WHEN WILL WE GET THE NUMBERS? FOR NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER? UM, THAT'LL BE AT THE NEXT MEETING.
WE'RE, IT'S, THE SYSTEM IS TWO MONTHS BEHIND.
I'M GONNA SOUND OFF, I'M THINKING WE'RE GETTING ABSOLUTELY NO COOPERATION ON THIS WHATSOEVER.
I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR INFORMATION FOR THE LAST THREE OR FOUR MONTHS THAT I STILL DON'T HAVE SIMPLE QUESTIONS LIKE HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY GET THEIR INVITATION IN THE MAIL.
I STILL DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA OF THAT AT ALL.
AND THAT, TO ME WOULD BE A VERY SIMPLE THING FOR THE STAFF TO CALL.
YOU MEAN THE ENVELOPE THERE? ENVELOPES? YEAH.
SO THIS IS THE COPY OF THE UTILITY? NO.
AND MY, AND IT IS NOT AN ENVELOPE.
IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE AN ENVELOPE.
NO, THE QR CODE LEADS TO THE, SO, AND THIS IS BASICALLY THIS.
I DID, I DID CHECK LAST MONTH, THIS MONTH.
THEY DID HAVE SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES WHEN THE, WHEN THE, I THINK INSERTS WERE BEING ADDED.
FACT, THE MAYOR'S FUND IS ALMOST DEAD BECAUSE WE'RE NOT RAISING, WE WERE GIVEN ONE WAY TO RAISE FUNDS.
I THINK THE WAY THIS STARTED, UH, YOU, BOTH OF YOU THROUGH, AND I HAVE TALKED TO THE PERSON THAT FOUND THIS, THIS WAS A SPECIAL DEAL THAT WAS GIVEN TO THIS FUND TO BE ABLE TO SOLICIT THROUGH THE UTILITY BILLS.
'CAUSE THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE GETTING SOMETHING DIRECTLY SENT TO THEM, WHETHER IT BE BY MAIL OR BY EMAIL.
I HAVE THE LAST FEW YEARS IT'S BEEN A BATTLE GETTING THE THINGS SENT OUT AND THEY'RE ALWAYS LATE.
I'VE HAD TWO OF MY, I GET THE THING BY THE MAIL.
I DO PAY THROUGH THE INTERNET, BUT I GET THE THING THROUGH THE MAIL.
I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING IN MY MAILING.
AM I THE ONLY CITIZEN OF LONG BEACH THAT ISN'T GETTING IT? I STRONGLY SUSPECT I'M ONE OF A RATHER BIG GROUP IS NOT GETTING THIS.
AND YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T GOING TO, THIS JUST DOESN'T DO IT.
WELL, IT WILL BE INTERESTING WHEN WE GET THE DECEMBER,
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DECEMBER.WHEN DID THIS GET ENCLOSED? UM, ALL OF NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER LAST WEEK.
THEY, THEY FINISHED ALL THE INSERTS.
NO, I'M NOT BLAMING YOU INSERTS.
THIS IS SOMEHOW, I I, I HAVE, WHEN WE, I FIRST STARTED WITH THIS, I TRIED TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE AT UTILITY.
THEY WOULD RATHER NOT DO IT ANYWAY.
AND I THINK WE'RE SEEING THE RESULTS OF THAT.
ONE OF I ON THIS COMMITTEE, SIX YEARS, AND I THINK I GOT ON THIS RIGHT AWAY.
SO FOR SIX YEARS I'VE SEEN THIS BE A PROBLEM EVERY YEAR AND DIMINISHING RETURNS TO THE FUND.
I JUST CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE CAN'T, THIS IS THE ONE SOURCE OF FUNDS WE HAVE.
WE WERE NOT SET UP AS A FUNDRAISING COMMITTEE.
WE'RE NOT A 5 0 1 C3 WE'RE NOTHING.
WHICH IS SPECIAL LITTLE SITUATION THAT WE WERE GIVEN THIS ACCESS TO UTILITY BILLS AND WE'RE NOT GETTING IT.
AND VERY HONESTLY, UH, THIS DIDN'T COME BEFORE THE COMMITTEE AS I REMEMBER.
SO, BUT I COULD SEE HOW IT COULD WORK.
I MEAN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT A STAMP ON IT.
I MEAN, THIS WAS APPROVED BY YOU GUYS BEFORE IT WAS SENT OUT.
IT WAS A, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN AN INSERT.
NO, LAST YEAR IT WAS AN ENVELOPE.
THIS IS LITERALLY LAST YEAR'S INSERT.
MAYBE IT, MAYBE THIS ACCOMPANIED IT, BUT WE, WE GOT AN ENVELOPE.
WELL, MAYBE WHEN IT GETS MAILED OUT.
I, THIS IS JUST A COPY OF THE INSERTS.
I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY MAIL IT OUT.
WHAT ELSE IS INCLUDED IN THE MAILOUT? IT LOOKS LIKE THIS GOES AS IS 'CAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT SIZE.
THIS IS WHAT THE PUBLIC GOT CORRECT.
THE ONES, SOME OF 'EM MIGHT HAVE GOT IT IN THEIR ENVELOPE.
IT WAS AVAILABLE ON THE, IT'S AVAILABLE ONLINE THROUGH THE PORTAL AS WELL.
BUT YOU HAD TO TAKE A SPECIAL EFFORT TO GET IT.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU HAD TO, IT WAS NOT PRESENTED FRONT.
YOU HAD TO ASK TO BRING DOWN AN INSERT, WHICH MEANT PEOPLE HAD TO READ THE BILL CAREFULLY TO FIND THE INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO GET THIS AS A MARKETING THING.
THIS HAS DONE EVERYTHING WRONG.
AND THAT'S WHAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN.
AND WELL, AND FOR, I MEAN, I PAY MINE AUTOMATICALLY.
AND YEAH, I MEAN, I, AND I LOOKED, 'CAUSE WE HAVE A NEW PORTAL.
LIKE I GO THROUGH THE SIGN IT UP AGAIN, WHICH IS TERRORIZES ME.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I DID IT AND I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING WAS CLEAR.
THERE'S A SPECIFIC WAY TO REACH THE QR CODE THAT'S ON THE PORTAL.
IF, IF WE HAVE, UH, AND OF COURSE THE OTHER BIG THING, AND I, I WASN'T ABLE TO HEAR WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THE OTHER COMMITTEE.
BUT IF THERE'S ANY MONEY THERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE US GETTING ANY MONEY FOR DECEMBER, NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER OUT OF MAYBE THE FEW ORDINARY ONES WE GET BECAUSE THIS DIDN'T GET TO PEOPLE.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION? THE, I GET IT.
THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, WE HAVE THE ROLE THAT WE HAVE AS A SUBCOMMITTEE AND AS HSAC.
UM, AND THAT THIS IS REQUIRING STAFF
MY QUESTION IS, IS THE MAYOR HAVE, HAVE WE AS THE HS A COMMUNICATED WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE TO TELL HIM THAT WE ARE FRUSTRATED BY THIS AND WOULD LOVE, THAT'S HIS ATTENTION.
TO BE HONEST, THAT'S HIS SECOND BIG THING.
THE MAYOR IS A COMPETITOR FOR THE SAME FUNDS.
IF YOU READ THE PRESS, WELL, THERE'S MORE THAN ONE FUND.
IF YOU READ THE PRESS TELEGRAM, UH, LAST WEEK THERE WAS A BIG ARTICLE YES.
ABOUT THE MAYOR'S NEW FUND FOR HOMELESS.
THIS NEW COMMUNITY FUND, ONE OF THE GOALS IS TO RAISE MONEY FOR HOMELESSNESS.
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AS ONE OF THEIR ACTIVITIES.SO WAIT, SO REX DID WHAT THE MAYOR'S FUND THERE? WELL, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT THERE FUND, THERE'S A LITTLE THING HERE WHICH ISN'T IS A SPEC.
THAT'S WHY THIS, THE WHOLE THING ABOUT THE UTILITY BILLS IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT A FUNDRAISING FUND.
IT'S THE ONLY SOURCE THAT WE HAVE TO RAISE MONEY.
NOW WE HAD A STAFF PERSON THAT CAME IN AND TALKED TO US.
SUPPOSEDLY EMILY IS, WAS GOING TO HELP US.
BUT I DON'T SEE THAT WE ACCOMPLISHED ANYTHING WITH THAT.
'CAUSE REMEMBER JENNIFER SAID LAST MONTH THAT SHE ATTENDED THE EMPLOYEE, UM, WHAT IS IT, DESIGNATED GIVING MM-HMM
AND SHE MADE THE PITCH FOR THE MAYOR'S MM-HMM
AND I ASSUMED THAT CONSULT AND SOME THE DONATIONS.
UM, BUT NOW THERE WAS A THING THAT THEY WERE GOING TO PUT IN THAT THIS COULD BE A FUND FOR CITY EMPLOYEES TO CONTRIBUTE TO.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT SHE WENT, SHE ATTENDED.
WHICH FUND ARE THEY CONTRIBUTING TO THIS ONE? ARE YOU SURE? YEAH, I PRESENTED ON IT.
SHE WAS, YEAH, SHE DID IT BECAUSE FOR CLARIFICATION, THEY DO THAT SAME MEETING FROM MY UNDERSTANDING ESSENTIALLY WAS A PITCH FOR ALL AVAILABLE FUNDS.
SO YEAH, THEY WOULD HAVE TO OPT THAT'S WHAT I SPECIFIC FUNDS.
BUT JENNIFER, IT SOUNDS LIKE SHE SPECIFICALLY SAID, HEY, HERE'S A FONT.
THEY, THEY GOT THE FULL PRESENTATION.
HOW, HOW DOES IT, HOW DOES A CITY EMPLOYEE DECIDE WHICH FUND, WHERE, WHERE DO THEY GO TO FIND OUT WHAT FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE TO GIVE MONEY TO? THERE'S A PORTAL THAT, WITH THE LINK THAT SHOWS THEM AND IT GIVES THEM A DESCRIPTION.
I'D LOVE TO SEE A COPY OF THAT.
YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S THE THING TOO.
WE, WE HAVEN'T GOT WHAT WE'VE ASKED FOR ON THIS WHOLE THING.
AS IT SAID TO ME, IT LIKE THE SIMPLE QUESTION OF HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY GET THE THING IN THE MAIL.
UH, UTILITIES REACHED BACK AND THEY, THE ONLY OTHER FEEDBACK THEY GAVE ME WAS THAT 15% OF CUSTOMERS ARE ENROLLED IN PAPERLESS BILLING.
I'M SORRY, 15% OF CUSTOMERS ARE ENROLLED IN PAPERLESS BILLING.
THEY GET THEY BILLING BY US MAIL PAPERLESS BILLING.
SO NO, ONLINE, 85% DOES US MAIL.
I'M SORRY, I DO HAVE A HEARING PROBLEM.
WHAT PERCENT GET IT BY US MAIL 85.
85% ARE ACTUALLY GETTING THAT THING IN THE MAIL.
AND DID EITHER OF YOU GET THIS IN THE MAIL? NO, I DID NOT.
BUT I DON'T DO ANY MINE'S ALL ON THE LINE.
BUT YOU DON'T, IT IS AN OPTION.
AND I'VE OPTED FOR COMPLETE PAPERLESS.
NO, I SUSPECT IT DIDN'T GO OUT.
SO IT'S NOT OUR DEPARTMENT THAT MAILS THEM OUT.
THEY NOTIFIED ME THAT THEY WERE TAKING CARE OF IT.
UM, YET LAST WEEK I CHECKED BACK WITH THEM AND THEY SAID, ALL, ALL INSERTS HAVE BEEN MAILED OUT.
HOW? BUT I HAVE NO CONTROL, ISN'T IT? I CAN'T REALLY STRANGE BE THERE.
CHECKING OUT THAT THE PERSON WOULD BE IN, IN THEIR EYES SHOULD BE THE MOST IMPORTANT TO GET IT.
THE PERSON'S ASKING ABOUT IT, ASKING A PERSON IS HEADING THE COMMITTEE THAT'S TRYING TO GET THE MONEY.
AND I'M, I CAN'T GIVE YOU A SPECIFIC REASON AS TO WHY YOU DIDN'T DID IT.
IT'S BROTHER STRANGE THAT I WOULDN'T GET IT.
YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T, WELL, IT AGAIN, JIM, I, YOU KNOW, MY, YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN ACTIVE IN THIS REALM WAY LONGER THAN I HAVE.
A HELL OF A LOT WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
AND IT WAS VERY CLEAR THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY AND IT IS A CHALLENGE FOR THE STAFF AND THE PUBLIC TO COORDINATE, TO COMMUNICATE.
AND THAT IT, EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE TRY LIKE HELL, THAT THERE'S JUST BUILT IN INSTITUTIONAL BARRIERS
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AND COULD, COULD WE INVITE WHOEVER THE DEPARTMENT HEAD IS TO OUR MEETING FOR GRAPHICS? JUST EXPLAIN HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS FOR US AND HOW WE RELY ON HER DEPARTMENT FOR OUR ONLY SOURCE OF MONEY FOR THIS.SO CAN WE, CAN WE, WE HAVE TO GET FROM YOU, JULIE? YEAH.
I, I JUST AT THIS POINT HOW PRODUCTIVE THAT IS SINCE IT'S, THE WINDOW HAS COME AND GONE.
UM, BUT MAYBE IN THE FUTURE, IN THE FALL, WE CAN HAVE THAT PERSON HERE, UM, WHOEVER'S IN CHARGE OF, OF REPROGRAPHICS MM-HMM
UM, SO THAT WE CAN GET AN UNDERSTANDING HOW THIS WORKS.
BECAUSE I THINK IT'S ODD THAT THE TWO OF US DIDN'T GET IT IN OUR MAILING.
I I I AGREE WITH YOU BRINGING HER IN THIS TIME INSTEAD OF BEATING A DEAD HORSE.
UM, BUT WELL, AND I SAID IF IT WASN'T FOR THE FACT THAT WE COME THROUGH THIS FOR FIVE YEARS YEAH, OF COURSE.
I WOULDN'T BE SO FRUSTRATED BY IT.
BUT EVERY YEAR IS THIS BATTLE TO TRY TO GET THE ATTENTION GOES.
THEY WANT, YEAH, BECAUSE THEY DON'T REALLY DO IT.
AND THE COMMUNITY FUND GROUP, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO TALK TO ME EITHER.
AND THIS IS OUR ONLY SOURCE OF MONEY.
WELL, AND IT'S JUST THAT THIS IS A VERY MINOR SUGGESTION.
MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE INSTEAD OF HAVING THEM COME TO US, THAT AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME WE DESIGNATE A COUPLE OR THREE OF US THAT IS A DELEGATION, GO TO THEM AND DO OUR PITCH AND ASK OUR QUESTIONS.
I LIKE THAT BECAUSE YEAH, WE, AS THIS IS IMPORTANT.
WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE MONEY AVAILABLE.
AND THE THING IS, WE HAVE TO STRESS THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT.
AND JULIE, CORRECT ME, WAS MORE ON A CONCEPT THAT THIS IS A FUND THAT'S THERE IF SERVICES ARE INTERRUPTED BY SOME SITU, AN OUTSIDER, AN ORGANIZATION CONTROL, AND IT CAN BE CURED BY AN INJECTION OF MONEY THAT WE'RE THE ONES THAT CAN DO THAT INJECTION OF MONEY.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE ALL ABOUT.
WHERE THIS EMERGENCY FUND TO MAKE SURE THAT SERVICES CONTINUE TO BE DELIBERATE TO THE PEOPLE.
AND, UH, WE NEED TO GET, ACTUALLY WE NEED TO GET THAT WORD OUT MORE TO THE PROVIDERS TOO.
IN SOME WAYS I'D LIKE TO SEE IT EXPANDED TO TRYING TO DO THINGS LIKE IF A PROVIDER WANTS TO TRY A NEW APPROACH MM-HMM
AND IT'S GONNA COST SOME EXTRA MONEY THAT WE CAN DO THAT.
A PILOT, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
YOU KNOW, AND THOSE AROUND THERE, THERE'S A COUPLE OF NEW APPROACHES IN THE, UH, AREA OF ADDICTION THAT ARE EXCELLENT.
AND I WOULD BET THAT A LOT OF OUR PROVIDERS ARE NOT USING 'EM BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN EXPOSED OR THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO, TO BRING IN THE TRAINING TO DO IT.
I USE AN EXAMPLE OF ONE THAT I'VE GOT THROUGH TO GET STARTED.
IT'S A THING CALLED FIT FUNCTIONAL IMAGINARY.
IT WAS DESIGNED BY BRITISH UNIVERSITY.
AND I ORIGINALLY TRIED WITH THE BRITISH ARMY TO REDUCE THEIR TURNOVER AND WORKED VERY WELL.
AND I MADE IT, WE, WE, WE GOT A, I WAS WORKING WITH BOA AND WE GOT A SPECIAL GRANT FROM HOME DEPOT WHO GOOD PEOPLE TO TRY IT.
IT'S, WE'VE HAD TREMENDOUS SUCCESS WITH IT.
SO THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS I'D LIKE TO SEE US MORE INVOLVED IN, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.
THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, ONE OF MY PET THINGS, I'D LOVE TO SEE US DO MORE EDUCATION, LIFE TRAINING IN THE SHELTERS.
WE HAVE A CAPTIVE AUDIENCE SITTING IN SHELTERS AND I KNOW THEY'RE NOT ALL GONNA PAY ATTENTION TO IT, BUT YOU PRESENT THE STUFF AND IF YOU GET THROUGH TO ONE PERSON A NIGHT, YOU'RE PROBABLY DOING GOOD.
HANDOUT AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
I'D LOVE TO SEE US MORE INTO THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT WE DO NEED THE MONEY.
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TO MAKE A, I DON'T KNOW, I GUESS AMEND THE, THE MOTION ABOUT OUR ITEM THREE, WHICH IS TO DISCUSS THE UTILITY.THAT WE, I THINK WE'RE STILL ON NUMBER TWO.
OH, WELL AREN'T WE? BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
BUT I MEAN, WE CAN GO TO NUMBER THREE, BUT WE NEED TO FINISH.
WE, OKAY, WELL THEN I'M, YEAH, BASICALLY WE SORT OF MOVED INTO, RIGHT.
SO I'M, I'M IF, HAVE WE MOVED THAT WE ACCEPT THIS? WE CAN, WE CAN VOTE ON TWO AND THEN MOVE.
LET'S SAY WE RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE THE MAYOR, MAYOR FUND A BALANCE UPDATE.
DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT? RIGHT? YEAH.
AND SO WE CAN SAY, I'LL SAY YES.
ANY, I WOULD ADD, OH, WE HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION.
SO I MOVE, IF I MOVE, IF I MAKE THE MOTION, CAN I AMEND IT? UM, WELL WE CAN THE MOTION.
WE CAN DO THIS MOTION AND THEN WE CAN AMEND IT.
SO I MOVE NUMBER THREE THAT WE RECOMMEND TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
SO I WOULD SUGGEST, RECOMMEND THAT WE ADD TO THIS THAT YOU WILL MAKE OUR REPORT AT THE NEXT FULL HSAC MEETING.
AND THAT YOU ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE HSAC PUT ON OUR CALENDAR THAT AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME PRIOR TO THE NEXT ROUND OF UTILITY BILLS.
THAT WE WILL BRING THIS DISCUSSION BACK BEFORE THE HSAC DESIGNATE A SUBCOMMITTEE TO MEET WITH THE APPROPRIATE CITY OR CONTRACTOR PEOPLE THAT DEAL WITH THIS.
I THINK THAT CAN JUST BE IN THE CONVERSATION.
I, I DON'T THINK IT HAS TO BE AMENDED.
I WAS GONNA SAY, GENERALLY THE AGENDA ITEM ITSELF, RIGHT? THEY GOTTA BE POSTED FOR THE PUBLIC MEETING.
SO YOU CAN'T GEN THE AGENDA ITEM.
BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT IS RELATED TO THAT.
YOU'RE JUST REQUESTING FUTURE ACTION ON DEVELOPING THIS COMMITTEE AS A RECOMMENDATION.
AND I THINK IN SOME WAYS THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, I'M TRYING TO SET UP MY MEETING WITH MY COUNCILWOMAN AND, UH, THIS IS WHAT SOMETHING I WANTED TO DISCUSS WITH MY COUNCILWOMAN TOO, IS LACK OF RESPONSE ON THIS.
AND I THINK MAYBE, MAYBE WE SHOULD BE TALKING DIRECTLY TO THE MAYOR ABOUT IT.
I ACTUALLY, I, I WILL SEND, I JUST TOOK A PICTURE OF THIS.
I WILL SEND TO THE MAYOR'S TEAM TOMORROW AN EMAIL THAT OKAY.
'CAUSE I'M PRETTY SURE THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT.
AND, UM, ASK THE MAYOR'S ASSISTANCE IN, UH, FUNDRAISING.
I DIDN'T REALIZE HE WAS PUSHING THE OTHER ONE.
'CAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS A 5 0 1 C3 BECAUSE IT IS AT THE LONG BEACH COMMUNITY FOUNDATION AND 5 0 1, IT IS IN THE SAME CATEGORY AS THE OTHER MAYOR'S FUND.
WE'LL, WE'LL ASK HIM FOR THATS, WE NEED TO TAKE IT RIGHT TO YEAH, I REMEMBER THAT.
SO, AND THEN, SO, SO MY AMENDMENT IS, WELL, WE WILL HAVE AN ACTION PLAN.
SO END OF SUMMER, BEGINNING OF FALL, YOU NEED TO BRING THAT UP.
YOU ARE, YOU ARE AMENDING HER
WELL, WE, WE ALREADY HAVE, I GUESS THE NEXT QUESTION IS ALL IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDED MOTION.
WELL, IT'S EXACTLY AN AMENDED MOTION.
IT WAS JUST A DO LIST FOR DISCUSS.
WE HAVE AN IDEA OF AN ACTION PLAN.
AND THAT WILL BE PART OF YOUR REPORT.
WAS THERE, WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW, IS THERE MORE 2026 STRATEGIES FOR FUNDRAISING? SO YOU GUYS REMEMBER THE CHART THAT I, I MEAN THE LIST OF ITEMS THAT I SENT YOU THAT EMILY HAS SENT OVER MM-HMM
UM, I THINK I FOLLOWED UP WITH HER AND I'M WAITING FOR HER TO GET BACK TO ME ON A MEETING.
UM, BUT I THINK THE THREE AREAS THAT WE CAN FOCUS FOR THIS YEAR, IF WE JUST TAKE THREE FROM THAT LIST AND JUST FOCUS ON THAT WOULD BE LIKE THE AIRPORT LOGO.
AND THEN GRAND PRIX IS COMING UP.
LAST YEAR WE WERE, IT WAS TOO LATE FOR US TO DO SOMETHING FOR THAT, BUT THIS YEAR WE, WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO SOME TYPE OF, UH, WAIT, DON'T THEY DO A FUNDRAISING EVENT AT THE GRAND PRIX? ISN'T THERE LIKE A, I'M NOT SURE.
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EVENTS TO SEE WHAT YEAH.IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT, I, I DO HOPE THAT WE CAN GET SOMEBODY FROM UTILITIES TO SIT DOWN WITH US THOUGH.
BECAUSE I, I'D LIKE TO FIND OUT FROM THEM.
MAYBE WE'RE ASKING TO DO SOMETHING THAT JUST ISN'T PRACTICAL.
THE UTILITIES, THEY, THEY DON'T PHYSICALLY, THEY'RE NOT PHYSICALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT MAILING.
UTILITIES JUST APPROVES THE FLYER AND MAKE, MAKE SURE THAT THEY LET THEM DO THAT.
BUT THEY'RE, IT'S A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT THAT ACTUALLY DOES THE MAILING AND IT'S A MACHINE THAT IT GOES THROUGH.
THINK WE NEED TO TALK TO FIND OUT IS THERE A PROBLEM AT, THIS IS NOT PRACTICAL THAT WE'RE DOING.
IS THAT WHY THEY'RE PUSHING BACK ON? NO.
'CAUSE WE GET OTHER INSERTS IN OUR UTILITY STATEMENTS.
THERE'S OTHER INSERTS THAT GO IN THERE.
BUT AGAIN, THE IDEA IS TRASH INSERTS THIS COMING THIS YEAR.
AT THE, AT WHAT WE THINK IS THE VERY SMART TIME.
THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO, WE'RE GONNA MAKE THE LIST OF WHO WITHIN EACH DEPARTMENT DO WE THINK IS KEY.
AND WE'RE GONNA GO SEE IT'S GONNA GET THAT BECAUSE IT SHOULDN'T FALL ON YOU, JENNIFER.
REALLY? I MEAN,
AND UH, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH.
YOU CAN ASK THE QUESTIONS, BUT YOU CAN'T MAKE IT HAPPEN.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE LACKING IS SOMEBODY, IT NEEDS SOMEBODY TO REALLY MAKE IT HAPPEN.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT GAP ACTUALLY IS.
WELL WE CAN ASK THE MAYOR VERSUS US ACTUALLY.
SEE BUT HE RESPONDS TO YOUR REIT.
UH, DO WE, WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE A MOTION FOR CLINTON, DO WE? WELL WE JUST HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE DISCUSSION.
RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS AND APPROVED FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. SO MOVE.
ANY FUTURE AGENDA MEETING? WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION.
NOT, UH, WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THAT, THAT LAST SUBMITTAL.
THE LAST, IS THAT A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM? THE LAST WHAT? I'M COMMUNITY.
THE SUBMISSION FROM OH, TABLE COMMUNITY TABLE.
I SENT HER AN EMAIL AND I ASKED HER TO LET ME KNOW WHEN SHE WOULD WAS GOING TO REPLY, BUT SHE HASN'T.
PEOPLE WHO DID HAS WATCHED SOME ANYHOW FOOD AND SAID THEY DEFINITELY ARE NOT HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH.
WELL I HAVE A SUGGESTION FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEM AND THAT IS THAT WE LOOK AT THESE FINAL REPORTS YES.
THAT WE ARE RECEIVING AND WE TALK ABOUT THEM AND PERHAPS WE COME UP WITH IDEAS OR RECOMMENDATIONS TO SHARE WITH THE ENTIRE HSAC.
AND WAS THERE, UM, AND ALSO IS THERE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO THESE APPLICANTS THAT WALK AWAY WITH THE $10,000? UM, I MEAN, I DON'T SEE WHY NOT, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST.
AS MUCH AS I APPRECIATE NEW SHOES ON MY FEET AND EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE NEW SHOES WHO, WHO NEED SHOES.
UM, I REALLY THINK THAT THAT KIND OF REQUEST MISSES THE POINT OF AM MAYOR'S FUND.
AND WHEN YOU DO THE MATH FOR HER FINAL REPORT, IN HER FINAL REPORT, IT WAS LIKE 55.
SO DOLLARS PER SHOE PARACHUTE.
AND I VOLUNTEER AT A FAMILY SHELTER IN TOWN AND I CAN TELL YOU THE WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN THAT SHELTER ALWAYS HAVE BETTER SHOES THAN ME.
AND THEY'RE ALWAYS DOING, I CANNOT BELIEVE HOW MANY NEW PAIRS OF SHOES WOMEN AND CHILDREN RECEIVE
AND IT'S QUITE IMPRESSIVE,
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BUT I JUST DON'T THINK THIS IS WHERE THESE FUNDS SHOULD BE GOING.AND THAT WAS THE THIRD TIME THAT WE FUNDED THOSE SHOES.
AND SO I WAS WONDERING IF THERE WAS A WAY TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, BUT HONESTLY WE DON'T, WE WE SHOULDN'T BE CYCLING THE MONEY LIKE THAT.
I THINK THAT SOUNDS MORE LIKE AN INTERNAL THING WHEN THE, WHEN YOU GUYS AS THE MEMBERS AGREE TO FUND THAT.
OR MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE IT IN OUR APPLICATION.
'CAUSE I DON'T WANT THEM TO DO A BUNCH OF WORK EITHER.
AND THEN SHE CAN SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE DONE IT THREE TIMES, WHY WOULDN'T YOU DO IT ANOTHER TIME? YEAH.
I MEAN, WELL IS A PRETTY GOOD RECORD MEAN TECHNICALLY THEY'RE, THEY AREN'T SUPPOSED TO REAPPLY FOR THE SAME PROJECT MORE THAN ONCE.
WELL THAT'S WHY I'M, I'M SUGGESTING THAT, THAT WE SIT DOWN ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, AND REQUEST THE STAFF TO WHEN IT'S, WHEN WE CAN DO IT THAT THEY MAKE SURE WE ALL HAVE THE FINAL REPORTS AND WE CAN LOOK AT THEM IN ADVANCE.
'CAUSE JENNIFER ALWAYS GETS THE STUFF IN ADVANCE.
AND THEN HAVE, AS THE FUND COMMITTEE SUBCOMMITTEE HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE EFFECTIVENESS.
WHAT'S EFFECTIVE IS OUR EVALUATION AND DOES IT MEAN THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO FIGURE OUT HOW IS THE HSAC TO HAVE COMMUNICATION WITH THE COMMUNITY GROUPS THAT WANT TO DO, WANT TO CONTRIBUTE AND WANT TO DO SOME OF THE WORK.
BECAUSE SEE THAT ADDRESSES ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S ALWAYS CONCERNED ME IS THE TIME THAT IT TAKES FOR US TO APPROVE AGREEMENT THAT'S TOO LONG.
IF WE, AND IF WE'RE TRULY FOR EMERGENCIES FUNDS, IT'S GAP FUNDS.
IT SOUNDS LIKE EMERGENCY, BUT I THINK THAT HAPPENED.
I'M STILL NOT SURE HOW IT HAPPENED, BUT SOMEHOW THE SON OF POLICY OF APPROVAL CHANGED A COUPLE, A FEW YEARS AGO WITH THE CITY MANAGER OR SOMETHING THAT PAUL TALKED TO.
'CAUSE HE TALKED TO US ABOUT IT WHERE IT BECAME NOT US THAT WAS APPROVING IT, IT BECAME STAFF THAT WAS APPROVING IT.
NO, I THINK WE HAVE IT GOOD NOW WHERE WE ALL GET IT.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'VE GOT TO.
I THINK WE MAY LIKE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT ALWAYS WORKS.
THAT WE GET, AND IF IT IS AN EMERGENCY, WE SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING AND WE COULD, BUT, BUT I THINK, I DON'T THINK STAFF SHOULD DO A LOT OF WORK ON IT UNTIL WE'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT IT TOO.
'CAUSE THAT COULD BE A WASTE OF TIME.
THE THE, THE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE STAFF TO, TO, UM, MAYBE AVOID IN THE FUTURE IS LIKE, UM, THE LAST, THE LAST PROPOSAL THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY THE LONG BEACH COMMUNITY TABLE MM-HMM
IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS SOME MISUNDERSTANDING ON HER PART YEAH.
BECAUSE OF SOME DIALOGUE OR SOMETHING.
AND MAYBE THAT WE SHOULD JUST AVOID THAT KIND OF STUFF AND JUST INVITE 'EM TO THE MEETING.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE SHE, SHE JUST, WELL JUST MADE THINGS VERY COMPLICATED FOR US.
AND I THINK WHAT WAS UNIQUE, AND MAYBE AGAIN YOU HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE THAN I DO, BUT IT SOUNDED LIKE THAT APPLICATION DID NOT COME DIRECTLY FROM COMMUNITY TABLE.
THEY CONTRACTED OUT WITH SOMEBODY WHO'S A PROFESSIONAL FUNDRAISER AND HE OR SHE PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF POSSIBLE SOURCES, WROTE A CANNED APPLICATION AND GOT IT OUT AND IT HAPPENED.
AND SO, AND WE SHOULD HAVE JUST IN THE BEGINNING, CALLED IT OUT AND SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T, THIS APPLICATION ISN'T EVEN APPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEEN PUT TOGETHER BY SOMEBODY NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE, WITH THE CRITERIA OF THE MAYORS FUND.
UM, I DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IN THE APPLICATION PART IT DOES SAY THAT IT DOESN'T PAY FOR OPERATIONAL.
IS IT BECAUSE, COULD WE MAKE SURE, 'CAUSE SHE MADE IT SOUND LIKE THAT'S WHY, AGAIN, I THINK THAT WAS THIS MAJOR.
BUT SHE MADE MADE IT SOUND LIKE SCREW WHAT ON THEIR PART, READ THE THING.
IT IS PRETTY CLEAR THAT WE DON FOUND, I THINK SHE SAID THAT BECAUSE WHOEVER SHE SAID SHE SPOKE TO GAVE HER THAT GUIDANCE.
BUT I AM NOT SURE WHO SHE, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR APPLICATION SAYS WE DON'T DO THAT.
BUT IT WAS SENT TO US WITH A NOTATION APPROVED
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TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE.IT WAS APPROVED TO BE REVIEWED BY YOU GUYS.
NOT THAT THE NOT A RECOMMENDATION, ACTUAL APPLICATION WAS, IT WASN'T RECOMMENDED.
I GUESS DEPEND BUT, AND PART OF THE REASON WHY BEING SENT WITHOUT A RECOMMENDATION HMM.
IT WAS, IT DIDN'T HAVE A THAT'S RIGHT.
IT DIDN'T RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND REVIEW.
IT, IT WAS JUST TO REVIEW RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND REVIEW MM-HMM
THAT'S A LITTLE CHANGE IN WORDS THERE.
AS THAT'S WHAT WE ENDED UP DOING WITH THE MAIN COMMITTEE ANYWAY, WAS SEND IT TO THEM FOR REVIEW.
SO WE KIND OF DID THE SAME THING.
JUST NEED TO NOT DO THAT AGAIN.
I, I GUESS IN A WAY WE HAD, AS I UNDERSTAND WE HAD TO FORWARD IT TO THEM OR COULD WE HAVE JUST SAID NO, BUT NO, WE COULD HAVE SAID NO, I WAS ALL FOR THAT.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA WITH, WITH FUTURE, UM, WHEN PRICELESS INVESTORS AND URBAN SOCIAL SERVICES SUBMIT THEIR FINAL REPORT.
WE GO, WE HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA TO REVIEW.
ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO OUR REQUIREMENTS FOR THE APPROVAL, AND IT WOULD WORK IN 99% OF THE CASES.
'CAUSE MOST PEOPLE APPLYING TO US OUR 5 0 1 C THREES MM-HMM
WHY CAN'T WE ASK FOR THEIR LAST TAX FILE? WELL I THINK THAT THE INTENT WAS TO MAKE THE APPLICATION AS EASY AS POSSIBLE, BUT THERE SHOULD BE NOTHING STOPPING US FROM ACCESSING 'EM.
I MEAN I DO THAT ALL THE TIME.
BUT, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO ATTACH IT TO THE APPLICATION.
BUT WE CAN WRITE IN THERE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE IT WOULD HELPFUL REVIEW.
BUT WE, WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW YOUR LAST NINE 90.
BUT I THINK WHERE I, MY FEELING WAS A LOT OF TIMES I THINK THE APPLICANT SORT OF THOUGHT IT WOULD'VE COME TO US.
I THINK THEY WERE GIVEN THE TEMPLATE OF LAWS AND THEN THERE WAS DIFFICULTY 'CAUSE I STARTED ASKING FOR TAX FILES AND I WANTED TO SEE THERE BECAUSE ACTUALLY I WENT ON LINE AND DIDN'T FIND THAT A PROBLEM.
'CAUSE SOME OF 'EM ARE SO SMALL.
'CAUSE I THINK FOR A LITTLE WHILE THERE, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE PEOP SOME OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS THOUGHT THAT WE WERE A RUBBER STAMP YEAH.
AND THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THESE FUNDS.
'CAUSE REMEMBER THAT ONE THAT LITERALLY WAS, I COULDN'T EVEN FIND THE ADDRESS.
IT, WELL THEIR, THEIR TAX THING WAS THE POST OFFICE BOX, BUT THERE WAS ANOTHER ADDRESS AND IT WAS SOME SORT OF RELIGIOUS THING, BUT IT DIDN'T, IT WASN'T THEM.
SO, UM, YEAH, JUST, I MEAN I GUESS WE WANTED TO MAKE IT EASY, BUT WE ALSO WANNA DO DUE DUE DUE DILIGENCE.
'CAUSE WE'RE ASKING FOR DONATIONS.
WELL, AS AN AVID USER OF AI, MYSELF, IT IS SO EASY TO WRITE AN APPLICATION NOW.
IN FACT, THAT ONE THAT I JUST MENTIONED, I DID THE INITIAL DRAFT OF THAT WITH AI.
AND UH, YOU KNOW, AND SAY, I MEAN THEY DID ALL THE RESEARCH FOR ME.
I KNOW, BUT SOMETIMES THE ONES I READ, THEY'RE LIKE REPETITIVE AND THEY'RE NOT ACCURATE SOMETIMES.
WELL, YOU, YOU DO NEED TO EDIT THEM AND YOU DO NEED TO WORK, BUT IT IT, AND THAT'S WHAT I SUSPECTED SOME OF THEM WE WERE GETTING THERE FOR WHILE WE'RE DEFINITELY COMING OUT OF AI MM-HMM
AND THEY WERE VERY NICE, VERY WONDERFUL SOUNDING APPLICATIONS.
BUT WHEN YOU DUG INTO 'EM, THERE WAS NO THERE THERE.
ANY OTHER, THEY HAVE A FUN TOPIC.
ANYTHING, ANY FUTURE AGENDA? I DON'T THINK WE'VE DONE THAT.
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JIM? JIM, CAN YOU ADJOURN THE MEETING FORMALLY? OH NO.I WAS JUST GONNA SAY HERE,