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OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE COMMUNITY IN THE DISTRICT, OF COURSE, UM, WE HAVE SOME NEW, UH, SOME NEW ENERGY ON THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS GONNA BRING, UH, SOME VULNERABLE THINGS.
UH, WITH THAT, I WILL WELCOME, UH, MIKE JANSEN TO THE COMMISSION.
UM, AND MIKE WAS, UH, UM, APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR AND BY THE CITY.
AND MIKE HAS BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY FOR YEARS AND YEARS.
YOU PROPERTY HONOR, UM, AND, UH, LIVES, UH, IN THE DISTRICTS AND WAS HAPPY TO PLAY YOUR ENERGY AND YOUR EXPERIENCE, YOUR EXPERTISE, AND WE MOVE FORWARD TO MOVING THE BALL FORWARD WITH YOUR INPUT AS WELL.
UM, AND A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, UH, TODAY, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT SOME SECURITY MEASURES, AND THAT'S DOWN ON THE AGENDA.
UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK, UH, BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION, WE'RE JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO GOING FORWARD WITH THE 26TH AND TACKLING MORE OF THESE, UH, UH, CHALLENGES AND TRYING TO MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD GET BETTER FOR ALL, UH, WE HAVE SHOWN IN THE PAST.
UH, SO WITH THAT, I'LL MOVE TO THE REGULAR AGENDA.
UH, I, NUMBER ONE, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE SHORE PARKING BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT AREA ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 20TH, 25.
CAN WE HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE? SO SECOND? YEAH, SECOND.
UM, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT AGENDA ITEM? UH, ANY STAFF COMMENT? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
UH, ITEM NUMBER TWO, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR RECEIVE AND FILE OF LONG BEACH, UH, PUBLIC WORKS FINANCIAL REPORT, DISCUSSING THE REVENUES DURING THE GREAT ENDING DECEMBER 33RD.
UH, IF WE COULD, UH, SIR, HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, GIVEN THAT WE'VE PASSED TO RULE 26 GOING NEW CALENDAR YEARS, SIR.
AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE, UM, ONE QUESTION ON THE TABLE RELATIVE TO, UH, BOND BALANCE AND MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF THE, THE, UH, UH, DETAIL ON THAT FOR MR. JENSEN.
YEAH, AND I'LL, WE HAVE A MOTION.
OH, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR MOTION AND A SECOND.
AND ONE, PLEASE TURN TO PAGE E TITLE
AS OF NOVEMBER 30TH, 2025, THE, THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF NOVEMBER.
REVENUES ARE FROM THE PARKING METERS.
AND WHEN WE G PARK AND WHEN WE NEEDED METER, IT GOES INTO THIS FUND.
UM, REVENUE IN THIS FUND IS EXCLUSIVELY FROM PARKING METER FEES IN THE MONT SHORT AREA OF THE CITY.
THE FIRST $200,000 OF REVENUE EVERY YEAR.
IT IS PLEDGED TO RENAME THAT SERVICE AND ASSOCIATED COSTS AND TO COMMUNITY FACILITIES DISTRICT 2007 DASH TWO AND BELMONT SHORE.
UM, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS A BOND THAT WE HAD IN 2008 AND 2009 THAT WE ARE STILL PAYING BACK.
UM, WE'LL BE PAYING THAT BACK, UH, OCTOBER 1ST OF EVERY YEAR.
SO FOR BASICALLY YEAR FY 26, WE HAVE PAID OUR, OUR PORTION OF THE DEBT ALREADY ON OCTOBER 1ST.
AND IN THE SPRING, WE WILL HAVE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE REPORT ON WHERE WE ARE IN THAT DEBT.
AND OUR, UM, HAVE TO PAY THAT BACK.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, FOR NOVEMBER, 2025, WE HAVE REVENUE OF 128,952.
THAT IS APPROXIMATELY 45% UP COMPARED TO LAST FISCAL YEAR.
WHILE YEAR TO DATE REVENUE IS UP 44%.
AND AS OPPOSED TO THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR, PLEASE NOTE THAT LAST FISCAL YEAR WE HAD, UH, PARKING METERY AT $2 AN HOUR.
AS OF FY 26, THAT MEANS STARTING OCTOBER 1ST, 22, 25.
WE HAVE, UH, INCREASED THAT TO $3 AN HOUR, AND THAT IS A RESULT OF THE INCREASE THAT WE'VE HAD SO FAR, AND HOW WE ARE UP, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEXT PAGE, PAGE NINE OF THE DOCUMENT, IT GOES INTO DECEMBER'S REVENUE.
DECEMBER'S REVENUE SPECIFICALLY WAS UP 30%, APPROXIMATELY 33,000 COMPARED TO LAST FISCAL YEAR.
BRINGING YEAR TO DAY REVENUE, ABOUT 39% VERSUS LAST FISCAL YEAR.
CURRENTLY, THAT BRINGS OUR FUND BALANCE TO $435,406 AND 24 CENTS.
WITH THE BOND PAYMENT ALREADY BEING MADE, WE WILL NOT HAVE TO MAKE THAT BOND PAYMENT AGAIN UNTIL OCTOBER 1ST, 2026.
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AND THAT STARTS THE NEST DEFENDANT FISCAL YEAR.IF EVERYONE PLEASE TURN THE PAGE 10 OF THE DOCUMENT, THAT TITLE, PALM
UM, I'D LIKE TO GO OVER OUR YEAR TO DATE ACTUALS VERSUS OUR ESTIMATED BUDGET FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR AND FISCAL YEAR 2025.
2025 ENDED ON SEPTEMBER 30TH, WE HAD APPROXIMATELY 1.3 MILLION IN REVENUE AND 1.3 IN EXPENSES BRINGING US, UM, UNDER, IN TERMS OF, IN TERMS OF OUR NET BY 36,000, BRINGING BROAD, BRINGING OUR END OF THE YEAR PROJECTED FUND BALANCE TO 317,000.
SO FOR FY 25, WE OVERSPENT BRINGING OUR FUND BALANCE DOWN, BUT IN FY 26, WITH THE NEW RATE INCREASE IN OUR ESTIMATED BUDGET AND EXPENSES THAT WE HAVE SO FAR, WE ARE LOOKING AT A NET GAIN FOR THE FISCAL YEAR.
AGAIN, THIS IS ON AN ESTIMATED BUDGET OF $3 AN HOUR OF PARKING METER RATES.
WE ARE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY 1.5 MILLION IN REVENUE.
AND WITH OUR EXPENDITURES BEING AT ABOUT 1.3, WE'RE LOOKING AT A 167,000 NET GAIN FOR THE YEAR.
UM, I'D LIKE EVERYONE TO LOOK AT OUR SECURITY AND CLEANING EXPENSES.
UH, CLEANING EXPENSES ARE FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.
THAT'S INCLUDING CONSERVATION CORPS AND THE NEW, UH, CLEAN TEAM SERVICE THAT WILL BE COMING IN AT THE BEGINNING OF THE EARLIER, LATER THIS YEAR.
UM, AROUND FEBRUARY, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $445,943 FOR CLEANING SERVICES FROM NOW UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30TH.
OUR SECURITY EXPENSE IS LOOKING AT AROUND 300,000.
THAT IS, I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT THAT IS AN ESTIMATE BECAUSE WE ARE GOING OUT AND WE ARE IN PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH AN ROP TO GET A SECURITY TEAM IN THE NEW END OF SHORE AREA.
PREVIOUSLY, WE HAD CSI UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30TH, AND WHEN THEIR CONTRACT ENDED, UH, IT WAS RECOMMENDED BY CITY ATTORNEY TO INITIATE A NEW RFP FOR NEW SECURITY SERVICES.
SO THAT IS CURRENTLY IN PROCESS.
WE HAVE, UH, THE PROCUREMENT TEAM AND PUBLIC WORKS ARE LOOKING AT NARROWING DOWN A VENDOR AND WORDING THAT WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE WEEKS, HOPEFULLY, TO HAVE SOMETHING TO BRING TO THE COMMISSION IN FEBRUARY OR MARCH OF 2026.
BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, OUR ESTIMATE IS LOOKING AT ABOUT 300,000 PER YEAR.
SO WE'LL BE A LITTLE BIT OF AN INCREASE.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
I WOULD LIKE EVERYONE TO ALSO GO DOWN TO THE PRESSURE WASHING SECTION.
UM, WE STILL HAVE A PRESSURE WASHING SERVICE THAT WE ARE PAYING FOR.
WE'LL BE PAYING THEM UNTIL THE NEW CLEAN TEAM SERVICE COMES IN.
WHEN THE NEW TEAM CLEAN TEAM SERVICE COMES IN, THEY WILL BE TAKING OVER THE PRESSURE WASHING SERVICES.
SO THAT $30,800 IS GOING TO BE, UH, PRETTY, PRETTY STATIC BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE ENCOMPASSED IN A CLEANING SERVICE.
SO THE CLEAN TEAM WILL BE DOING CLEANING AND PRESSURE WASHING.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU, WE COMBINED ONE, WE STILL HAVE TO PAY FOR THE CURRENT SERVICE.
AND SO THAT'S ESTIMATED AT ABOUT 30,800.
UM, THAT'S REALLY THE, THE ONLY, THOSE ARE THREE BIGGEST, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THREE BIGGEST EXPENSES THAT WE HAVE EVERY YEAR.
JUST WANT TO BRING THAT TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION.
ALL OTHER, ALL OTHER EXPENSES ARE ON THERE.
THEY'RE, THEY ARE ESTIMATES COMPARED TO PREVIOUS YEAR.
UM, LIKELY TO CHANGE, BUT NOT TOO MUCH.
OUR THREE, AGAIN, OUR THREE BIGGEST ONES ARE USUALLY CLEAN SECURITY, CLEANING SERVICE, EDITORIAL QUESTION.
UM, ERS, UM, IF WE CAN DISCUSS, UH, MOVING TO THE FEBRUARY 26TH AGENDA, UH, CONVERSATION REGARD TO, TO, UH, THREE ADDITIONAL BUDGETED ITEMS OR INCREASES, UH, NOTE AND DISCUSSED.
ONE WOULD BE A MORE DETAILED LANDSCAPE PLAN.
WE LOOK AT AS A COMMISSION OF RECOMMENDATION TO, UH, CITY COUNCIL TO, UH, USE SOME OF THE FUNDS GENERATED FROM, UH, OUR BUDGET FOR, UH, A DEDICATED LANDSCAPE PLAN.
UH, NUMBER TWO WOULD BE, UH, INCREASING OUR
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SECURITY BUDGET.I'D LIKE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION RELATIVE TO THAT AS WELL.
UH, AND THEN THIRDLY, DOVETAILING INTO SECURITY WOULD BE, UH, UH, DEDICATED LIGHTING PLAN, UH, FOR, UH, ALLEYS AND PARKING LOTS IN THE DISTRICT.
UH, AS LONG AS WE SEE NOW, UH, THOSE FORECAST THAT WE ACCOMMODATE, UH, DISCUSSING THOSE THREE THINGS.
SO I'D LIKE TO GENERALIZE THOSE FOUR FEBRUARY AND I'LL OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION.
YOU, YOU'RE OPENING THAT? YEAH.
I, I THINK THAT WE MADE A GOOD DECISION ABOUT THE INCREASE IN OUR RATE BASED ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE, UH, BECAUSE WE WERE IN A DEFICIT LAST YEAR, SO WE'RE SHOWING THAT WE WASN'T POTENTIALLY BASED ON BEING PROTECTED NOW, NOT ENOUGH TO ADDRESS.
AND WE HAD ISSUES THAT WERE REALLY NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED.
AND IN PARTICULAR, THE THREE THINGS THAT WE JUST MENTIONED, WHICH WILL GET TO LATER.
UM, HOWEVER, WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, BOTH OF THE, WE THOUGHT PRIORITIES THAT WE JUST HAS CUT OUT, BEEN ABLE TO UNDERSTATE BECAUSE OF, OF THAT.
UM, AND THERE COULD BE OTHER THINGS THAT POP UP, RIGHT? LIKE THE TRASH CANS, WE, WE HAVE TRASH CANS ARE BUDGETED, UH, ONGOING MAINTENANCE.
UM, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT WITH A NEW CLEAN TEAM, UH, IN FEBRUARY WHEN WE'RE INTRODUCED TO THEM WHAT THEIR SCOPE OF OF SERVICE IS RELATIVE TO THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE UNITS.
UH, AND THEN THE ONGOING EXPENSE THAT WE HAVE IN FIXING EXISTING BIG BELLIES, REPLACING EXISTING BIG BELLS AND, UH, TWO, THREE MONTHS PASSED, UH, OR BEHIND US RATHER THAN THE COMMISSION, UH, ASKED FOR, UM, UH, A STUDY FROM CITY, UH, AND PUBLIC WORKS BROUGHT TO, TO REPLACING BIG DOLLARS WITH LESS COMPLICATED UNITS THAT TAKE LESS MAINTENANCE.
UH, SO WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR A FINAL REPORT ON THAT.
WELL, JUST SAYING THAT WE HAVE SOME BUDGETED ITEMS FOR THAT, BUT THERE CAN BE SPIKES IN THINGS THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED.
SO IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THE DOLLARS TO BE ABLE TO THOSE RATHER THAN SEGMENT CASH.
SO I THINK THOSE DOLLARS WILL GET TAKEN UP PRETTY QUICKLY WITH, YOU KNOW, AND, AND NOT TO MENTION, THERE ARE OTHER KINDS OF THINGS LIKE ADDITIONAL
SO WE'LL SEE WHAT THE NEW, THE NEW WORD DOES.
UM, UH,
SO THINK WE, OH, WHEN SIGN, WHICH WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO SIGN IT YET.
SO ALL THINGS THAT, UH, I THINK WE CAN IZE, UH, AS A COMMISSION GOING FORWARD.
WE HAVE A, A LIST OF PEOPLE ATTACK, UH, KNOWING THAT WE SOLVED OUR DEFICIT PROBLEM, UH, AS WE FORECASTING, UH, LIVED, OCCUR, AND IT WOULD PRODUCE, UH, ENOUGH, UH, UH, FLOW INTO OUR BUDGET THAT WE CAN TACKLE SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU FEEL ARE, ARE IN THE DIRECTION OF QUALITY OF LIFE, UH, FOR RESIDENTS AND OPERATORS IN VEHICLE.
THIS, THIS DISTRICT, MR.
THAT'S FOR THE SECURITY VENDOR.
FOR JUST, JUST FOR THE VENDOR.
JUST THAT VENDOR FOR SECURITY SERVICES.
FOR PEOPLE WALK, UH, TO WALK
AND AS A REMINDER, UH, THERE IS AN RFP OUT, UH, FOR A NEW SECURITY VENDOR.
UH, I THINK CITY'S LOOKING AT FOUR DIFFERENT COMPANIES.
UH, ONE OF 'EM IS, IS THE CURRENT PROVIDER AND THEN THREE MORE THAT, UH, STILL ARE IN THE, THE MACHINE.
SO THE RFP IS, IF I HAD TO GUESS WHERE IT IS IN PROCESS, I, I'D SAY SOMEWHERE IN THE HALFWAY IS THE CURRENT COMPANY.
UM, CURRENT COMPANY IS OPERATING ON MONTH TO MONTH.
BUT ARE THEY IN CONSIDERATION FOR THEY THEY HAVE, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THEY, AND, AND I, I CAN'T CONFIRM OR DENY, BUT I, I, I
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HEARD THAT THEY DID THAT THEY DID, UH, PARTICIPATE INHAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE PRESSURE WALKING.
I EXPLAINED THE, HOW WE WENT FROM LAST YEAR TO NUMBER TO THE LASTER NUMBER YEAR, THE ESTIMATED BUDGET.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE DURATION OF THE CONTRACT WITH SPECTRUM STEAM, MEANING IT RUNS OUT IN FEBRUARY, UH, OF THIS COMING YEAR.
SO IT'S AN OVERLAY FROM SEPTEMBER TO FEBRUARY.
AND THE, THE EXISTING CLEANING CONTRACT, WE HAVE A CONSERVATION BOARD.
THEY DID NOT, UH, PROVIDE STEAM CLEANING SERVICES.
SO WE CONTRACTED SEPARATELY WITH A STEAM CLEANING COMPANY THAT WOULD, UH, INCREMENTALLY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, EVERY MONTH, EVERY DAY, DO STEAM CLEANING IN SHORE.
AND THAT WAS A SEPARATE LINE ITEM ON OUR, BUT THE NEW, UH, CLEAN TEAM BUDGET THAT WE HAVE, THE, UH, SERVICE PROVIDER, UH, ENCOMPASSES NOW STEAM CLEANING, SO WE CAN TAKE THAT OUT OF THE BUDGET.
SO THAT W WHERE INCLUDED IN PREVIOUSLY WAS NOT, IT WAS INCORPORATED.
THE PRESSURE WASHINGTON WILL GO INTO THE SERVICE CLEANING.
ANYTHING ON THROUGH THAT BUDGET CONSIDERATION? OKAY.
UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UM, BRIAN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? NO, THAT'S EVERYTHING.
UH, FOR ITEM TWO, WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND.
UM, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM TWO? UH, ALL ON SET? OKAY.
UM, YEAH, I'M JUST A LITTLE FLUMMOXED BY THE INCREASE IN THE SECURITY ITEM, GIVEN THE OBVIOUS FAILURE OF THE PREVIOUS CONTRACTOR.
I UNDERSTAND HAVE AN RFPA NEW CONTRACTOR, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT HOW TO IMPROVE SECURITY BEFORE SPENDING ANOTHER 300 K ON SOME NEW VENDOR.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, GIVEN ALL THE PROBLEMS, THE MURDERS, LOTS OF, UM, AS WE KNOW, THE CITY'S LOOKING INTO IT RIGHT NOW EVEN.
AND SO GIVEN THAT THERE'S A LOT IN FLUX WITH THE CITY LOOKING AT HOW TO, YOU KNOW, DO SOME HARM DUE TO OVERCONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL ON SECOND STREET, IT SEEMS PREMATURE TO SPEND ANOTHER 300 K OF THE PUBLIC'S MONEY ON ANOTHER SECURITY THING.
UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS AGENDA? ADAM? WE HAVE A MOTION.
UH, DID WE GET NAME OF THE TITLE? DO YOU MEET THE MEETING OF THE AGENDA? I'LL ASK AFTER THE MEETING.
TRANSIT EMPLOYEE BUS MASTER STATUS FOR, UH, DECEMBER, 2025.
EVERYONE PLEASE TURN TO PAGE 11 OF THE DOCUMENT TITLED BSVA, BOARDINGS AND WRITERS.
SO FOR NOVEMBER, 2025, WE HAD FOR NOVEMBER BOARDINGS UP 40%, WHICH IS 1600 MORE THAN THE PREVIOUS YEAR, SHOWING AN INCREASE.
AND THEN DECEMBER, WE HAD 5,975 WARNINGS, BRINGING IT UP ABOUT 26% VERSUS LAST YEAR, ABOUT 1200 WARNINGS UP.
UM, AND THIS IS OUT OF APPROXIMATELY 1,336 EMPLOYEES WITHIN THE BUSINESS DISTRICT.
AND FIVE, WE CURRENTLY HAVE APPROXIMATELY 529 ACTIVE BUS PASSES.
OUT OF THOSE BUS PASSES, WE HAD 5,975 BOARDINGS FOR DECEMBER.
IN TERMS OF RIDERSHIP, THE NUMBER OF WHO USE THE PROGRAM IS FOR NOVEMBER TWO TH 217 IN DECEMBER 205 WRITERS.
THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT OFFERS EMPLOYEES WHO WORK IN THE BEAUMONT MATURE AREA, ACCESS TO FREE PUBLIC TRANSIT TO AND FROM WORK IN THE BELMONT MATURE AREA.
UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT THIS IS FUNDED BY THE CITY AND NOT THE BELMONT SURE.
PARKING COMMISSION AND PARKING METER REVENUE DO NOT PLAY FACTOR IN THE PAYMENT OF THE THESE SERVICES.
THESE ARE COMPLETELY THROUGH THE CITY.
UM, WE CURRENTLY SHOWING UPWARD TRENDS VERSUS LAST FISCAL YEAR.
UM, MORE SHIP ANNUAL BOARDINGS ARE HAPPENING MORE
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THAN EVER, UM, BOARDINGS BY BUSINESSES ON THE NEXT PAGE.THIS IS A LIST OF EVERY BUSINESS THAT PARTICIPATES IN THE PROGRAM AND THE BUSINESSES WHO USE IT, THE NEW EMPLOYEES WHO USE IT.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, ANGELA'S ITALIAN DELI HAVE 75 BOARDINGS RUN, NOT THE, AT 22 LOSSES AT 82.
SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF TIMES SOMEONE HAS USED THEIR EMPLOYEE PARKING PASS DURING THAT MONTH.
UH, NEXT PAGE HAS THE BOARDINGS BY DATE.
YOU CAN SEE WHICH DAYS HAVE THE MOST BOARDINGS.
FOR DECEMBER, IT WAS MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY.
AND THEN IN THE FOLLOWING PAGE, PAGE 14, WE HAVE TOP 10 BUSINESSES BY BOARDINGS.
NUMBER ONE BEING OPEN SESAME ALL THE WAY DOWN TO YOUR SEAFOOD.
COULD YOU REMIND, UH, THE COMMISSION PLEASE, BRIAN? UH, THE ORIGIN OF THE FUNDING, THIS, THIS WAS ORIGINALLY FUNDED BY THE PUBLIC ELEMENTARY PARKING METER FUND.
AND THEN, UM, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, BE THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL PROPOSITION THAT COULD BE USED FOR THESE FUNDS.
AND, AND INSTEAD, AND SO CITY TOOK A FUND THEMSELVES TO SWITCH AND TAKE OVER PAYMENT ON THIS INSTEAD OF USING IT TOWARDS THE PARKING METER FUND.
UM, AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH LONG BEACH TRANSIT TO SUPPLEMENT THESE SERVICES.
AND THE CONTRACT WENT TO CONTRACT CONTRACT, I THINK IT WAS PRE COVID, AND THEN IT STOPPED FOR A COUPLE YEARS DURING COVID, AND THEN THE COMMISSION DECIDED TO BRING IT BACK ONCE EVERYONE STARTED RETURN TO CLERK.
UM, THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE TIME WHEN CITY OF LONG BEACH SAW THAT THEY COULD USE PROPOSITION FUNDS TO USE TO SUPPLEMENT THIS.
IT, THE CONTRACT WAS FROM 22 TO 25, 20 22 TO 2025.
THAT ENDED THIS YEAR, DECEMBER, 2025.
HOWEVER, WE'VE RENEWED IT FOR ANOTHER YEAR WITH THE OPTION TO RENEW ANOTHER THREE YEARS AFTER THAT.
AND SO, UM, THIS IS A CONTINUING RELATIONSHIP THAT WE'LL HAVE WITH LONG BEACH TRANSIT FOR THE, FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
UH, DOES THE, AND WE KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, BUT, BUT MORE OF A CONTINUING EDUCATION FOR EVERYBODY HERE AS WELL AS, UH, COMMISSIONER JENSEN.
UH, DOES THIS PROGRAM EXIST ANYWHERE ELSE IN CITY? DO ANY OTHER BUSINESS DISTRICTS, UH, GET TO AVAIL THEMSELVES OF THIS KIND OF SERVICE FOR THEIR EMPLOYEE? NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO.
SO WE HAVE NO ANALYTICS TO COMPARE IT TO, BUT BOY, IT DOES MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE, UH, IN THIS DISTRICT RELATIVE TO PARKING.
AND, UH, AS LONG AS PEOPLE CAN COME FOR ON BUS, IT'S MUCH BETTER THAN BRINGING A CAR TO THE
I WOULD LIKE TO, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR DECEMBER, IN AND OF ITSELF, OUT OF 205 PEOPLE WHO USE, WHO HAVE USED THE PROGRAM IN THIS ONE, THEY'VE USED IT 5,075, 10.
THEY DID NOT LIVE FOR A PARKING SPOT.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER? I'LL GIVE A MOTION.
UH, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER THREE? YES, MA'AM.
UM, I WONDER IF THERE'S A, UH, BEGINNING AN ENDING THAT IS IN BELMONT SHORE.
IS THE, UH, BUS DEPARTMENT ABLE TO TELL US THAT THOSE RIDES ARE SPECIFIC TO BELMONT SHORE AS FAR AS WHERE THEY END OR WHERE THEY BEGIN? I, I THINK IT WAS A LITTLE CONFUSING AT ONE TIME AS TO HOW PEOPLE TRANSFERRED FROM, SAY THEY LIVE IN NORTH LONG BEACH, COME HERE, AND WHETHER THEY WERE ACTUALLY TRANSFERRING.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKED OUT, HOW THEY KEEP TRACK, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE'S A TRANSFER PROGRAM ANYMORE.
YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL PART OF THE TRIP.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE KEEPING TRACK OF ALL THIS.
I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION THAT CAN BE POSED TO TRANSIT.
WE TRY TO GET AN ANSWER, UH, FOR FUTURE MEETING, UH, BEING IN THE BALANCE.
I, UNLESS YOU'RE NOT GOOD, THAT'S ALL.
JUST CURIOUS, IS PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER THREE? MOTION? WE HAVE A SECOND.
ITEM FOUR, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE STATUS UPDATES, UH, FROM CONSERVATION BEFORE, UH, FOR THE WORK DONE
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DECEMBER, 2025, CONSERVATION COURT.UH, WHO THIS, THIS MORNING? YEAH.
UM, BEFORE YOU GET GOING, UH, THANKING PRETTY MUCH, UH, THEN NOT BUDGET EITHER.
THIS IS, UH, THE LAST MONTH GOING THROUGH JANUARY.
WE'LL BE PROVIDING SERVICE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AFTER YEARS AND YEARS OF SERVICE.
AND THEN WE'VE RECOGNIZED THEM SEVERAL TIMES THAT, UH, BUSINESS ASSOCIATION, UH, MEETINGS.
UM, HEATHER, WHEN'S THE NEXT BREAKFAST? 27TH.
SO WE'D LIKE YOUR PLEASE FUND YOU MORE TIME AND JOIN ABSOLUTELY.
BUT ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION, UH, WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE, UH, THE FINE SERVICE, UH, OVER HERE.
RYAN, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES.
MY DEMENTIA FOLKS AND WE HAVE A SECOND.
ONE OF THE LONGEST RUNNING TAKE MEMBERS AT COPY FOR.
AND ACTUALLY THIS SERVICE HAS BEEN A PART OF MY HISTORY HERE, SO I ENJOY MY SERVICE HERE.
SO I CAN KIND OF, FROM THE BOTTOM LINE, MY PART, I THANK FOR THE SUPPORT THAT MISSION HAS GIVEN CONSERVATION CORPS FOR SO MANY, YOU TO, UM, AND JUST TO BRING, BRING IT UP, I DID MEET WITH BLOCK BY BLOCK YESTERDAY, THEIR PROJECT MANAGER, ERICA LEON, YOU KNOW, WE, I GAVE HER SOME POINTERS ON, YOU KNOW, HOW WE RAN OUR OPERATION OVER THE YEARS.
AND I DID FORWARD YOUR INFORMATION.
UM, BECAUSE THERE WAS A COUPLE THINGS THAT I DID PUT INTO RIGHT HERE.
UM, SO ONE THING SHE'S GONNA REACH OUT ABOUT IS WHERE TO PLACE THE TRASH, BECAUSE I EXPLAINED HOW WE DID IT OVER THE YEARS.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE ONE THING THAT'S GONNA COME UP.
AND THEN ALSO THE, UH, THE TIME TO PRESSURE WASHING.
'CAUSE I UNDERSTAND WE'RE GONNA BE DOING PRESSURE WASHING AS WELL.
UM, BUT SHE MENTIONED THAT THEIR CREW WAS GONNA START AT 3:00 AM YEAH, THAT'S WHAT THEY OCCURRED.
SO I DON'T KNOW AS FAR AS THE NOISE ORDINANCE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
GO BACK TO
SO THAT WAS JUST GONNA BE A MATTER THAT, BUT NO, IT WAS A VERY GOOD, EFFECTIVE MEETING.
UM, AND WE MADE OURSELVES AVAILABLE IF THEY HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
SO, SO, AND WE, WE MIGHT BE GIVING SOME OF OUR, UM, OUR STUDENTS TO THEM, UH, 'CAUSE THEY'RE OFFERING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM FOR FULL TIME POSITIONS AS WELL.
SO IT'S GONNA BE PROBABLY A PRETTY BIG PARTNERSHIP.
SO, UM, LIKE I SAID, IT IS A BITTERSWEET MOMENT, BUT I THINK IT'S GONNA BE FOR THE BEST.
SO, BUT ON BEHALF OF THE CONSERVATION CORPS, I THINK MISSION.
SO WHERE WILL WE BE REDIRECTING? UH, WE HAVE ALMOST CONSIST WE'RE GONNA BE DOING MAINLY, UH, UH, RECYCLING
SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND THE CONSERVATION COURT, UH, WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE A PRESENCE IN, UH, THE SIDE OF TOWN FOR RECYCLING, ESPECIALLY E-WASTE, UH, AS WELL AS BIG ISLAND.
SO I MEAN, WE STILL HAVE A FLEET TEAM IN LONG BEACH THAT ARE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH LIKE
BUT AS FAR AS OUR RECYCLING SERVICE, UH, WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR, UM, RECYCLING COLLECTION IS FROM, FROM RESIDENTS.
AND WE'RE ALSO AVAILABLE TO HOST, UH, THE CYCLING EVENTS FOR THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
AS FAR AS, UH, E-WASTE COLLECTIONS, WE'VE ACTUALLY DONE ONE OUT HERE ON THE SHORE A COUPLE YEARS BACK, SO WE'RE STILL GONNA BE AVAILABLE FOR, TO DO THAT.
MR. ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? THANK YOU.
UM, SO WE HAVE A MOTION, WE SECOND, UH, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANY BEFORE.
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THANKS VERY MUCH MIKE AND CONSERVATION COURT FOR ALL YOUR WORK.THERE'S A BIG QUESTION ABOUT WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE TREES ON SECOND STREET.
THEY FINALLY REPLACED THE TWO NEAR PANAMA JOE'S, AND THEY SEEM TO BE SURVIVING, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE METAL SURROUNDS THAT PROTECTED THEM.
UH, PREVIOUSLY, THE ONE IN FRONT OF SUSHI EYE, THEY INSTALLED A TEENY TINY TREE.
IT HAS NO SURROUND, AND THE TOP OF IT'S ALREADY BROKEN OFF.
AND THERE THE TREE CHOSEN HAS LITTLE, UH, FRUIT OR SOMETHING THAT DROPS.
SO THAT'S GOING TO BE, I THINK, A PROBLEM FOR THE CLEANING PEOPLE.
SO WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHO'S CHOOSING THE TREES, WHO'S SUPPOSED TO CARE FOR THEM AND WHO'S WATERING THEM.
AND THEY'RE REALLY A GREAT ADDITION IF WE CAN GET THEM TO BE ALLOWED TO SURVIVE AND THRIVE.
I THINK THAT QUESTION IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ANSWER.
UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON MEETING FOUR? OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION.
I HAVE FIVE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS.
RECEIVING FILE ON REGARDING AFTER HOURS ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING NOISE AND SAFETY AND POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS AND POSSIBLE CLOSURES.
UH, AS SITTING ON PARKING LOTS, UH, ON, ON SHORE.
UM, THE COMMISSION HAD ASKED, UH, FOR, UH, AND UP TO SPEND RECOMMENDED UP TO SPEND, UH, AT TWO, TWO MONTHLY MEETINGS PAST UP TO, UH, LIGHTING IN PARKING LOT IN THE S
UM, THE REPORT THAT I'VE GOTTEN IS THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS IS WORKING ON, UH, SOURCING THE PROPER, UH, LIGHTING COMPONENTS FOR THE ALLEY AND, UH, PARKING LOT.
UM, THE ONLY REASON I'M GETTING A LITTLE BIT DEEPER ON THE LAGGING ASPECT OF IT, WE CAN OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION.
UM, A NUMBER OF BUSINESSES ENSURE, UH, ON THE PARKING LOT SIDE, SO THAT WILL BE THE SOUTH SIDE.
UH, THE SECOND STREET, UH, OVER THE LAST 30 CATCH DAYS HAVE ADDED, UH, ADDITIONAL LIGHTING TO THEIR PARKING LOTS.
UH, WHICH WE UNDERSTAND IS HAVING A, A POSITIVE EFFECT ON, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE ACTIVITY OF THOSE LOTS.
UH, SO THE BUSINESSES ARE THINKING UPON THEMSELVES TO, UH, ADD SOME LINING, UH, AHEAD OF WHAT SITTING DO THROUGH
UH, OTHER THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED WERE RES OUT OF THOSE PARKING LOTS TO THE NORTH SIDE, UH, ALL THE WAY AT CERTAIN HOURS SO THAT THE DIRECT TRAFFIC OUT OF PARKING LOTS ON TWO SECOND STREET RATHER THAN DOWN SOUTH THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED ARE CLOSING PARTY LOCKS AT A CERTAIN HOUR.
UM, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CERTAINLY DISCUSSED THIS MORNING AS WELL.
UH, ANY, UH, SUBSEQUENTLY, UH, UH, PROBLEMS WITH THAT BE OPPOSED TO, UM, RESIDENTS AND, AND CAR FOR PERMITS AND, UH, ALL SORTS OF DISCUSSIONS RELATIVE TO CLOSING THOSE PARKING LOTS EARLY.
UH, WE DISCUSSED THAT KEN WAS IN THOSE PARKING LOT.
WE DISCUSSED DYNAMIC PRICING, UH, WHERE WE WOULD INCREASE THE COST OF PARKING THOSE PARKING LOT AS A MITIGATOR, UH, AND TER.
UH, SO ANY AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE FOR DISCUSSION NOW.
AND JUST OPEN IT UP AND WE'LL START WITH MOTION.
UH, WE DO NEED A MOTION, PLEASE.
IT'S LIKE A, UM, COMMISSIONER.
SO, UM, IF BUSINESSES ARE, ARE DOING THIS, UM, AND IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING, UM, ISN'T THE CITIES WORK ON THIS WAY? THIS WHAT IT IS? OR JUST ALLOW FOR I I DON'T, I DON'T THINK SO.
I, I THINK THE, THE LIGHTING THAT, UH, SOME OF THE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN INSTALLED IN THE LAST 30 DAYS, UM, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S AS COMPREHENSIVE AS WHAT THE CITY CAN JUMP THROUGH AND ADD TO THOSE LOTS.
UM, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE THROW SORT, THE LIGHTS ON, HOW THEY THROW THE PITCH, THE LUMENS, UH, THE KIND OF, UH, UH, FIXTURES THAT THEY ARE, UM,
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WHO ULTIMATELY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR, FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE LIGHTS OR EVEN PUTTING THE LIGHTS IN.THERE'S, UH, CERTAINLY NOT NECESSITIES OF PRIVATE COMPONENT BECAUSE THIS ALL THE PRIVATE THE CITY, UH, BUT THE, THE BUSINESSES ARE TRYING TO, UH, MITIGATE, UM, OUT OF NECESSITY.
UM, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE PUTTING LIGHTS IN THE WANTS AND NONE OF THE BUSINESSES ARE, ARE LIGHTING ENGINEERS OR EXPERTS.
SO I, I THINK IT, IT FINITELY NEEDS TO COME THROUGH AND DO A, AN INVENTORY COME UP WITH A PLAN RELATIVE TO NOT ONLY THE PARKING LOTS, BUT THE ALLEYS.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF SPACES, IF YOU GO DOWN THE LENGTH OF, UH, THE SHORE FROM LIVINGSTON TO BAYSHORE ON THE SOUTH SIDE WHERE THERE'S DARK SPOTS IN ALLEYS THAT, THAT FOSTER, UH, ACTIVITY AS WELL AS THE PARKING LOTS THEMSELVES.
SO, NO, THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO.
WELL, I JUST WANNA BE ON, I HEARD A NATURAL SKEPTICISM THAT, UH, WHEN THE CITY GETS INVOLVED, IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE.
UM, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF, UH, NEW INVOLVEMENT, UM, THAT THE, THE DELTA BETWEEN WHAT THE CURRENT LIGHTS DO AND WHAT THESE NEW KNIGHTS ARE GOING TO DO SEEMS VERY SMALL TO ME, VERY POLITE TO ME.
UM, SO ANYWAY, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S MY KIND OF NATURAL, UM, AND SKEPTICISM.
WELL, AND, AND PART OF MIGHT ADD IS IT, IT SEEMS THAT ALONG THOSE AREAS WHERE PUBLIC PARKING IS RELATIVE TO THE LIGHTING, UM, WE'VE GOT SOME TREES THAT HAVE ROLLED ALL THE WAY DOWN, THEY NEED TO BE PUSHED UP.
SO A THEY DON'T CONFLICT WITH THE CAR OR PARKING IN THE PARKING LOT AS WELL AS IN INABILITY BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE ALLOWING THOSE THAT CREATE ISSUES TO HIDE BEHIND THE TREES.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO GET THAT CLEANED.
AND I'M NOT SURE WHO'S DOING THE MAINTENANCE ON THE TREES IN THAT, IN THOSE SECTIONS, BUT IT IS THAT WE GET RESOLVED BY CAPABIL, ENHANCE THE VISIBILITY ALONG TERM.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY BETWEEN, UH, IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST, CONSERVATION BEFORE HAS DONE LIGHT MAINTENANCE.
UH, SOME OF THAT LANDSCAPING, UH, THE LARGER LANDSCAPING, UH, GENERALLY FALLS ON BOEING.
AND THEY EITHER HANDLE IT THEMSELVES OR THEY, UH, PERSON OUT TO THE VENDOR, UH, TO DO, UH,
IT'S GENERALLY BEEN ON, ON AN AS REQUEST BASIS.
UM, BUT AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ASK BOTH WORKS, UH, TO COME VISIT AND WE CAN LEARN WHAT THE, UH, AIST PLAN IS.
BUT WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD BEFORE WHEN ASKING FOR AIST OPINION ON TREES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH, UH, IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO EVERYBODY AND CERTAINLY TO ME, I'M PRO TREE, UH, PUT THAT OUT THERE, BUT ALSO, SO I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO, TO LOOK AT GETTING THOSE TREES TRIMMED AND IF NOTHING HAPPENS, UM, AT LEAST THROUGH CHANNELS THE WAY IT SHOULD, UM, WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE REQUEST.
AND, AND THEREIN LIES PART OF THE, THE INHERENT CHALLENGE IS THAT ONCE IT GOES THROUGH THE DOOR, THE REQUEST DOOR, UH, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ROOMS IT TRAVEL THROUGH BEFORE A SOLUTION IS IS BROUGHT UP.
BUT, UM, WE'LL CERTAINLY AS A BYPRODUCT OF THIS CONVERSATION, WE'RE GONNA ASK BUILD THAT WORKS TO WEIGH IN ON TREE TRIM FOR THE PARKING LOTS TO MAKE AND MORE EFFECTIVE.
THERE'S BOIL BACK AND LET'S CONTINUE WITH THE CONVERSATION.
UM, COMMISSIONER NER, UM, THINK WE HAVE, OKAY, FAIR ENOUGH.
UH, COMMISSIONER JENSEN, ANYTHING FURTHER?
THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT, OR IT IS DEFINITELY, BECAUSE THAT IS BLOCKING VISIBILITY AND SCRATCHING CARS OF BIG PEOPLE HAVE SHOWN THAT TO ME.
AND IT, IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD, BUT IT'S ALSO NOT GOOD IF WE'RE TRYING TO BE PARK
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AS WELL AS FAR AS THE SUGGESTIONS FOR THE LIGHTING AND, UH, AND, AND WHAT WE HAD PLANNED TO.DO WE HAVE THAT PLAN YET? OR DO WE HAVE, DO YOU HAVE A SNEAK PREVIEW OF NO, WE DISCUSSED, WE'RE CURRENTLY COLLABORATING WITH MULTIPLE COMPARTMENTS, IDENTIFY WELL QUALIFIED LIGHTING VENDORS THAT ARE CAPABLE OF MEETING THIS PROJECT SCOPE.
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT OBTAIN QUOTES TO DEVELOP SOME PRIVATE PROCUREMENT STRATEGY TO DO THIS.
UM, BECAUSE THIS INVOLVES INSTALLING ADDITIONAL LIGHT POLES AND GOING IN AND INSTALLING, YOU KNOW, LIKE ELECTRICAL, WORKING WITH ELECTRICAL ITEMS REQUIRES DIGGING UP, UM, DIGGING UP PARTS OF THE PARKING LOTS.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A MUCH MORE INVOLVED PROCESS.
SO WE'LL NEED TO COMPLY WITH CITY POLICIES AND RECEIVE APPROVAL FOR MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS BEFORE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH A PROCUREMENT PLAN.
'CAUSE THIS WILL CONSIDERABLY, LIKE COMMISSIONER LINK SAID, UM, WE'LL NEED TO ABIDE BY, YOU KNOW, CITY POLICIES.
THIS CAN BE A LENGTHY PROCESS.
UM, ONCE WE HAVE A PROCUREMENT PLAN AND SET UP, WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT TO THE COMPLETION TO DISCUSS HOW MUCH THAT'S GONNA ACTUALLY COST TO DO.
UM, PW PUBLIC WORKS HAS COMPLETED A COMPREHENSIVE LIGHTING OF LIKE THE LIGHTINGS IN THE AREA.
UM, AND WE'VE REPLACED ANY KIND OF LIGHTS THAT ARE OUT.
UM, CURRENTLY WE'VE WORKED WITH SEE TO SEE, TALK ABOUT REPLACING LIGHTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY OUT ON THE SEE SIDE, WHICH THEY HAVE DONE.
SO SO FAR WE'VE REPLACED ALL THE LETTING THAT IS THERE, BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT OUR PROCUREMENT STRATEGY IS TO INSTALL ADDITIONAL LIGHT BULBS IN, IN THOSE PARKING LOTS.
SO ARE WE NOT AT, ARE WE GOING TO GET A REPORT OF WHAT, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO SEE A REPORT OF WHAT HAS BEEN REPLACED IN THE WEB LOGS WITHIN WHAT WE'VE DONE BOTH ON THE CITY SIDE AND, AND SCE BECAUSE IT'S JUST, I, WE CAN NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE WHERE, WHAT, WHAT PROGRESS IS BEING MADE.
AND IT'S HELPFUL TO HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF AS A GRID OR A REPORT OR SOMETHING.
AND I FELT MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD.
SO YOU CORRECT ME THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT LIGHTING THAT WE HAD THIS, YOU KNOW, URGENT NEED BECAUSE OF SOME THINGS THAT TRANSPIRED IN RECENT TIMES, YOU KNOW, SHORE WITH, WITH, UH, THE SAFETY ISSUES.
AND WE SAID, THIS IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, AS A COMMISSION, IT'S REALLY ONE OF THE MAIN LEVER WE HAVE AS WHAT WE CAN DO WITH DEPARTMENT LOT AND THAT, SO I I'M JUST WONDERING WHY, YOU KNOW, WE SAID HOPEFULLY, WE'LL, WE COME BACK IN JANUARY, THEN WE CAN MAKE SOME DECISIONS BECAUSE IT DOES TAKE TIME TO GET IT INSTALLED.
BUT IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT I UNDERSTOOD IT WAS GONNA TAKE SIX MONTHS OR EIGHT MONTHS TO MOVE IT DOWN THE ROAD TO GET NEW LIGHTING.
WE SLIDE ANSWER IN THERE QUICK AND THEN MR. VASQUEZ CAN ELABORATE ON, WE, WE MADE UP TO, WE MADE, UH, RECOMMENDATION AND, AND UP TO EXPENSE ASK MM-HMM
$25,000, UH, I THINK IT WAS TWO MEETINGS PAST MAYBE THREES PAST.
UM, TO IMMEDIATELY ADDRESS THE CONCERN THAT SOMEBODY HAS LOCKED IN OUT REGARD.
AND THE, THE IMMEDIACY OF IT WAS, CAN THE CITY COME THROUGH AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND AT LEAST REPLACE SOME LIGHT BULBS IN THE DARK SPOTS TO MM-HMM
AND SO WE ALL UNDERSTAND THE COMPLEXITIES OF CITY MOVEMENT.
AND SO HERE WE ARE BETWEEN THAT ASK AND NOW, UH, AS WAS STATED, THERE ARE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE TAKEN UPON THEMSELVES TO MITIGATE, UH, AT LEAST THE PARKING LOTS THAT ARE IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THOSE BUSINESSES.
AND, AND I I THINK THAT'S TERRIFIC THAT THOSE BUSINESSES HAVE TAKEN ON THE EXPENSE AND THE EFFORT TO DO THAT.
UH, IT DOESN'T COME WITHOUT AN EXPENSE AND IT DOESN'T COME WITHOUT EFFORT.
UH, AND THEN THAT PRODUCT HAS TO BE MAINTAINED.
UM, AND I KNOW, UH, A COUPLE OF THIS IS CURRENTLY TO, UH, GOING FURTHER WITH THAT, WITH SOME PERMANENT INSTALLATION INSTALLED THEIR PROPER, THEIR BUILDINGS MM-HMM.
TO THE PUBLIC SPACE TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE DOING IT OFF OF THEIR BUILDINGS.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT AND WE JUST HAVE TO, I DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER WAY TO SAY IT.
WE JUST HAVE TO BE PATIENT AND LET THE, IN THE MACHINE WORKING THROUGH.
BUT WERE THOSE DOLLARS EXPANDED THOUGH? THAT'S FOR WELL, WE, WE DID THE ASK, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE NOT SPENT, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE $25,000 HAS NOT BEEN TACKED OUT OF THIS BUDGET.
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WANNA ELABORATE ON THAT OR LET IT EITHER? NO, IT IS, IT IS, IT'S NOT BEEN SPENT.BUT INSTALLING THIS IS GONNA BE A LOT MORE THAN 25 OH DOLLARS.
SO WE'D MUCH RATHER DO THIS AND HAVE A PROCUREMENT PLAN IN PLACE TO INSTALL THESE LIGHTINGS, BECAUSE THERE ISN'T A, ISN'T A LESS THAN $25,000 OPTION FOR THE CITY.
THERE'S, THAT'S THE OPTION FOR YEAH.
SO WE WERE ALSO IN, SORRY, BUT WE WERE ALSO GOING TO HAVE AN ANALYSIS.
I, I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, OF, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE WERE GOING TO CLOSE THE LOTS, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE THE CLOSE, THE LOTS STAFF, THE LOTS, YOU KNOW, THE LIGHTING.
AND WE WERE ALSO GOING TO DO A STUDY ABOUT THAT, MAKING SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, THAT THE LIGHT DIDN'T SPILL, YOU KNOW, TO THE RESIDENTS HOMES AND WHAT KIND OF IMPACT.
SO I DON'T, I'M JUST WONDERING, WE'RE SCOPING IT IF WE HAVEN'T DEFINED SOME OF THESE KEY ELEMENTS.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S A PHASING OF IT.
IF YOU HAVE 25,000, WHAT CAN YOU DO FOR 25,000? IT MAKES IT BETTER.
AND THEN IF THERE'S A LONGER TERM STRATEGY, THEN, AND IT REQUIRES
SO REAL QUICK, ANOTHER SLIDE INVOLVING MR. QUE, UH, FINISH THAT UP.
UH, THERE WAS A MEMO RELEASED FROM THE CITY THREE, FOUR WEEKS AGO RELATIVE TO, UH, PROTOCOLS AND PROCEDURES THAT, UH, NOW THE CITY IS LOOKING AT, UH, FOR ADOPTION THROUGHOUT THE CITY THROUGH ALL BUSINESS DISTRICTS, UH, BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS RELATIVE TO, UH, LATE NIGHT PROTOCOLS, BITING, UH, SECURITY, UM, ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE ASKING.
UH, THE, THE PARKING LOT MANAGEMENT LATE NIGHT, UH, NOT ONLY HERE, BUT IN OTHER DISTRICTS OF THE CITY WAS, UH, ADDRESSED IN THAT MEMO.
UH, SO THE, WHERE THAT'S GOING IS IT'S, IT'S NOW ASKED STUDY AND IT SAME, UH, DEVELOPMENT AT THE CITY LEVEL.
UH, SO THAT PART OF THAT PARKING LOT SECURITIES IN THAT CONTAINED THAT, THAT, SO WHAT TOM
SO, UH, CAN'T COME UP WITH ANYTHING UNTIL WE HAVE A VENDOR THAT WE CAN WORK WITH.
UM, ONCE WE PICK THAT, ONCE WE PICK THAT VENDOR, WHETHER THAT'S GOING TO BE THROUGH AN RP OR SOME SORT OF OTHER COOPERATIVE PROCUREMENT, WE'LL NEED TO, UM, GO FORWARD WITH THAT AND TO DISCUSS HOW THAT LIGHTING IS GONNA BE IMPLEMENTED AND, AND, YOU KNOW, PREVENTING IT FROM GETTING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND, AND ALL, AND ALL OF THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WILL BE, WILL BE DISCUSSED AFTERWARDS REGARDING THE CLOSURES OF THE LOTS.
WE RECEIVED FEEDBACK FROM, YOU KNOW, CITY MANAGER, COUNCIL MEMBER AND RESIDENTS.
AND THERE, THERE WAS, UM, TALK OF MANY PEOPLE DISCUSSING A PROPOSED MIDNIGHT CLOSURE OF THE PARKING LOT.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK THAT THE COMMISSIONERS NEED TO DISCUSS AND, AND WEIGH THE PROS AND CONS OF IT WOULD BE CLOSING THE LOTS AT MIDNIGHT.
UM, WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN WOULD BE CLOSING THE LOTS AT MIDNIGHT AND INSTALLING SIGNAGE TO SAY THAT THE LOTS ARE CLOSED AT MIDNIGHT.
THERE'S NO PROPOSAL FROM THE CITY TO BASICALLY CLOSE THOSE LOTS AT A CERTAIN, AT A CERTAIN TIME.
TO INSTALL A PARK'S ARMS GATE WOULD COST ROUGHLY ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PER LOT.
UM, WHEREAS INSTALLING A PSYCHE WITH A LOCKING MECHANISM WOULD BE A LOWER COST OPTION, BUT SPIKE STRIPS WOULD NEED TO BE INSTALLED AND A CONTRACTED STAFF MEMBER WOULD NEED TO BE PHYSICALLY THERE TO CLOSE THOSE SLOTS AT NIGHT, WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE, WHICH WE WOULD NEED TO ADD TO ALL CREATING ALL CREATING COSTS.
CLOSURE EQUALS ENFORCEMENT EQUALS COST.
UH, COMMISSIONER, IS THERE A MAP THAT SHOWS WHERE SCE CONTROLS AND WHERE PRIVATE PROPERTIES CONTROL LIGHTING SO THAT WE ALL HAVE A VIEW OF A, WHERE THE EXISTING IS AND B, WHERE THE NEW PROPOSED LIGHTING NEEDS TO BE THAT IS PRESENT? OR IS THAT ANALYZED YET? OR IS THAT STILL PART OF THE, THE DISCUSSION PURPOSES OF THE ANALYSIS THAT'S BEING DONE? YEAH, CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE THAT.
YEAH, IT'D BE INTERESTING BECAUSE I KNOW THAT S UH, SCE, UH, HAS SORT SOMEWHERE QUITE, QUITE A LOT OF, UH, FOOTPRINTS IN, IN THAT,
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IN THAT AREA.THEY, THEY HAD, THEY OWN ALL STORES OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
WOULD THAT BE PART OF THAT $25,000 STUDY? ABOUT A $25,000 STUDY? WE'RE NOT SPENDING $25,000 ON A STUDY.
WE ASKED FOR $25,000 AND UP TO SPEND FOR, UH, REPLACEMENT ON AN, ON AN EMERGENCY BASIS OF LIGHTS THAT ARE OUT, UH, TO TRY AND MITIGATE AS BEST AS POSSIBLE.
AND NOW WE KNOW THAT, THAT THIS IS GONNA BE A BROADER, UH, PROJECT AND IT'S GONNA TAKE QUITE A LOT OF ANALYSIS AND PLANNING TO BRING IT TO FRUITION ON INSTALLATION,
AND IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME TIME.
SO ARE YOU MAKING A REQUEST THOUGH,
REQUEST TO SEE WHICH ONES ARE SE AND WHICH ONES ARE THE CITIES.
AND, AND WHERE, WHERE PROVIDING NEEDS TO BE DONE OR WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING, WE EVEN HAVE A MAP, BUT HERE'S WHERE SC PROVIDES, HERE'S YOUR PRIVATE PROPERTY, PROVIDE AND HERE'S WHAT NEEDS TO BE APPROVED.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THAT MAKES, SO, UH, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER, I'LL MAKE A MOVEMENT, MAKE A MOTION FOR MOVE THAT FORWARD MOTION.
UH, I THINK TO, TO DO WE NEED A MOTION TO AGENDA.
IS THAT FOR FEBRUARY? UH, WITH SOME RESULTS? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? YES.
ALL IN FAVOR? UH, IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMIND, UH, UH, ON THAT THE PARKING LOTS, UH, ARE USED BY, UH, WIDE VARIETY OF FOLKS.
UH, RESIDENTS USE THE PARKING LOTS, UH, EMPLOYEES USE PARKING LOTS, UH, VISITORS TO EVERY SINGLE BUSINESS IN THE DISTRICT USING PARKING LOTS.
UH, PEOPLE COMING TO ENJOY THE BEACH, USE THE PARKING LOTS.
UH, THESE ARE PUBLIC PARKING LOTS, UM, THAT, UH, HAVE PEOPLE COMING AND GOING, UH, LITERALLY AT ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT LOOKING TO HOMES, BUSINESSES, UH, DOING THE MEMORIES THAT THEY DO.
UM, SO, UH, JUST SAYING THAT IT, IT'S NOT, THIS IS NOT, UH, ANY PARTICULAR BUSINESS, UH, PROBLEM.
THAT THIS IS, UH, A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE ALL HAVE
THERE'S NOT AN AWFUL LOT OF CONSIDERATION.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF RESIDENT WHO USE PARKING LOTS, UH, OVERNIGHT, UH, BECAUSE PARKING IS CHALLENGING FOR THEM IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, THEY DROP A CAR IN THE LOT AND THEN THEY GET, GO TO WORK IN THE MORNING.
UH, CERTAINLY NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
UH, THERE'S PEOPLE THAT COME DOWN AND, AND USE MILES OF PUBLIC BEACHES THAT PARK IN THOSE PARKING LOTS.
UM, THERE'S PEOPLE PASSING THROUGH THE DISTRICT, UH, USE THOSE PARKING LOTS PEOPLE TO WORK, UH, LATE AT NIGHT AND OVERNIGHT TO THE DISTRICT, USE THOSE PARKING LOTS.
UM, SO IT'S A, IT IS A COMPLICATED, UH, PROBLEM TO ANALYZE, UH, UH, HOW TO, TO BEST MITIGATE IT.
I THINK IT'S ALL WORTHY OF CONVERSATION.
AND, UH, IT IS GOING TO BE DISCUSSED AND STUDIED, UH, BY PEOPLE THAT ARE FAR SMARTER THAN ME.
UH,
UH, 'CAUSE WE TRY TO AVOID THAT BECAUSE I THINK EVERYONE IN THE ROOM KNOWS WHAT WHAT HAPPENS WITH THOSE.
UM, THE WINNER THERE IS THE, THE CONSULTANT WHO DOES THE STUDY.
WELL, THE WALKER LAST STUDY THAT WAS DONE MR. WALKER STUDY, UH, ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO.
AND PART OF THAT STUDY, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO, UH, BRING THAT OUT OF THE ARCHIVES, BUT YOU WOULD SEE CONVERSATIONS ON, UH, NOT ONLY DYNAMIC PRICING LATE NIGHT, BUT CLOSING, UH, THOSE LOTS AT CERTAIN TIMES AS WELL AS GOING TO, UH, PERMIT PARKING.
UH, WHICH THE GREATEST OPTION THERE IS THE COASTAL COMMISSION, UH, AND ACCESS TO THE BEACH.
UM, AND I, SO COASTAL COMMISSION AND THE RIDGE STUDY COMBINED, UH, THE COASTAL COMMISSION HAS HAD WEIGHED IN ON CLOSING PARKING LOTS, UH, IN THE PAST.
UM, AND WE HAVEN'T EVEN BROACHED THAT OR THE CONVERSATION YET.
UH, SO THERE'S ALL SORTS OF CONSIDERATIONS, UH, THAT ARE SO FAR PAST THIS COMMISSION'S, UH, ABILITY, UH, AS A BOTTOM THAT RECOMMEND TO LIEUTENANT COUNCIL.
UM, COMMISSION WILL TAKE A TENURE BETWEEN PROPOSAL.
YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M ONE OF THE FEW PEOPLE THAT THAT THINK THAT, THAT THERE ARE
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ASPECTS OF, OF THE GOVERNANCE FROM THE COASTAL COMMISSION RELATIVE TO PARKING IN THIS DISTRICT THAT CAN BE CHANGED.WE JUST HAVE TO GO THE CO COMMISSION AND ASK FOR THE CONSIDERATION.
UM, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING SANKER SAN, IT JUST TAKES TIME AND
UH, BUT THAT'S A TOUGH, THAT'S A TOUGH ROAD.
SO THAT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PERMIT THAN SAYING, YOU KNOW, PERMITS TO, YOU KNOW, OUT ON THE PARKING FLOOR.
I, PEOPLE, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE BEACH AT MIDNIGHT.
I AN EXAMPLE, I I SAY AS JUST A, JUST AS A, AS A, AS AN ADJUNCT THAT, THAT PEOPLE PARK IN THOSE PARKING LOTS TO GO THE BEACH.
DURING THE DAYTIME, VERY PEOPLE ARE PARKING AT ONE O'CLOCK THE BEACH.
BUT YOU KNOW, THEY DO PARK IN THOSE PARKING LOTS PEOPLE'S HOMES AND, AND THERE ARE RESIDENTS PARKING LOTS.
IT IT'S A, IT IS A SHARED SPACE, BUT A LOT OF, A LOT OF PEOPLE PREFER A LOT OF REASONS.
AND, AND IT'S THAT, I JUST DON'T WANT THAT TO DROP OFF THE LIST.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OPTIONS, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THE RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, TO SOME DEGREE IT, IT, JUST BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE VERY EXPENSIVE, YOU KNOW, AS, AS SOLUTIONS, THIS MAY NOT BE THAT EXPENSIVE AND IT MAY ALSO MITIGATE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE RESIDENTS NEED.
IF IN FACT, WE DID SAY, AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS, I'M ADVOCATING FOR IT, I'M JUST SAYING IT IS AN OPTION THAT YOU CAN CLOSE THE LOT AND STILL POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, ACCOMMODATE RESIDENTS.
SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD COMPLETELY, YOU KNOW, RULE IT OUT IS ALL I'M SAYING, BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND THEN WE COME BACK AND THEN SOME OF THOSE OPTIONS ARE NOT BROUGHT UP IN THE NEXT CONVERSATION.
AND I, I FEEL LIKE IF WE'RE GOING TO DO A FULL VETTING, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE THINK IT'S GONNA BE TOO EXPENSIVE OR NOT TOO EXPENSIVE, THAT SHOULD BE PART OF THE ANALYSIS, RIGHT? I MEAN, IF, IF WE SAY IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE TO HAVE AN ATTENDANT, OKAY, TELL US WHY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE NEED THE EVIDENCE OF TELL US WHY AND WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT COST? BECAUSE OTHERWISE, HOW DO YOU MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE OPTIONS LAID OUT THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR SEVERAL MONTHS NOW? UM, AND JUST KIND OF MOVE AHEAD ONE OPTION THAT SEEMS LIKE THE BEST, THAT'S MY CONCERN IS NOT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE NEED TO DIG IN TO SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND POINT APPRECIATE, UH, THE, UH, ELABORATION ON THAT.
UM, WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND, UH, I COMMENT ON THIS AND WE'LL JUST, UH, OPEN UP.
UH, PLEASE BE MINDFUL OF THE TIME.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULD SURPRISE ME NOW.
IT DOESN'T, BUT NOW IT JUST FRUSTRATES ME THAT THERE'S AN INNATE BELIEF SEEMINGLY AMONG MULTIPLE COMMISSIONERS, THAT THE CITY IS THE HURDLE AS IF YOU ARE NOT ON A COMMISSION THAT OPERATES ON THE CITY'S AUSPICES AND THAT YOU'VE NEVER SEEN HOW CITY PROCESSES TAKE TIME IN THE PEPPER.
AND WE'RE HERE, THIS, THE SUBJECT WAS RAISED IN OCTOBER, IT WAS REPEATED IN NOVEMBER, AND THERE'S BEEN TWO MONTHS AND THERE'S NO DOCUMENTS ATTACHED IN ANY OF THESE REPORTS OR THE SITE IN THE AGENDA.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT SEEMS TO QUANTIFY OR ELABORATE ON ANYTHING COMMISSIONERS HAVE CONTINUALLY ASKED FOR.
SO I'M WONDERING WHAT THAT PROCESS IS TO SURFACE THOSE AND MAKE THIS MEANINGFUL.
BECAUSE TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE WITH THREE DEATHS BEHIND US ALREADY, AND THE SAFETY CONCERNS ARE HERE.
BUT THERE'S A DIFFICULTY RECONCILING THIS DESIRE, APPARENTLY FOR AN EASY BUTTON WHERE YOU'RE JUST GONNA ALL DECIDE ONE DAY IT'S ALL, ALL GONNA BE SPENT AND DONE.
UM, AND THE EXAMPLES I CITE ARE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SECURITY PATROLS AND THE, UH, THE CLEANUP TEAMS, THOSE WERE ISSUES THAT WERE KNOWN FOR A YEAR BEFORE.
AND THOSE DECISIONS GOT MADE AND STILL TAKES THIS LONG TO GET THERE.
SO IS THERE NOT AN ABILITY FOR THE COMMISSION AND THE PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT IT TO, UM, GET INFORMATION IN CHINA FASHION SO THAT ACTION CAN BE TAKEN IN A MEANINGFUL WAY AND THAT ALL THAT INFORMATION CAN BE SURFACED SO IT CAN BE REVIEWED BY PEOPLE AHEAD OF A MEETING LIKE THIS WHERE THERE'S NO ATTACHMENTS AND IT'S JUST DISCUSSION.
SO I WANNA FRAME THAT AS WITH THE URGENCY THAT COMMISSIONER CASTRO'S, UH, DISCUSSING THE PRIORITIES OF THAT, BUT THE AWARENESS THAT, UH, THE CITY DOES HAVE MECHANISMS FOR THIS, IT DOES TAKE TIME AND JUST LAMENTING THAT YOU DON'T LIKE THE TIMELINES IS NOT REALLY EFFECTIVE FOR THE JURY OR FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS, PLEASE? YES, MA'AM.
MICHELLE SIMON BELMONT CHAIR, HOMEOWNER.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS BEING
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MADE ABOUT THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THIS SOLUTION.UH, YOU MENTIONED THE COMMISSIONER MENTIONED THAT THERE SEEMS TO BE A POSITIVE EFFECT FROM INCREASING LIGHTING, NO EVIDENCE AND NO, NO ATTACHMENTS ABOUT WHERE THE LIGHTING WILL GO, WHAT IMPACT IT WILL HAVE ON RESIDENTS, WHETHER IT'S EVEN AN EFFECTIVE SOLUTION.
AND I WANNA POINT OUT THAT IN ADDITION TO THE CITY MANAGER'S MEMO, WHICH YOU SEEM TO BE UNFAMILIAR WITH, I I SUGGEST EVERYONE, WE GET FAMILIAR WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S MEMO.
IT'S 22 PAGES LONG, LOTS OF IDEAS IN THERE ABOUT HOW TO IMPROVE SAFETY AND BELMONT SHORE, YOU KNOW, THE ASKING FOR INPUT RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO AGAIN, ANY UM, SO-CALLED SOLUTION FROM THIS BODY SEEMS, UM, PREMATURE SHOULD BE MATCHING WITH COORDINATION WITH THE OTHER EFFORTS BY THE CITY THAT WE'RE GOING ON.
AND I ALSO WANNA POINT OUT, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE FORGOTTEN THAT THE, UH, ESTABLISHMENTS, UM, PARTICULARLY THAT HAVE ENTERTAINMENT LICENSES ARE ALREADY REQUIRED UNDER CITY LAW TO PROVIDE SECURITY FOR THE PARKING LOTS.
AND PARTICULARLY THEY ARE REQUIRED TO STAY.
SECURITY IS HALF AN HOUR AFTER CLOSING TO ENSURE THAT PATRONS EXIT THE, THE LOTS QUIETLY.
SO I FEEL LIKE WE'RE ACTING LIKE THIS IS ALL IN A VACUUM AND LIGHTING IS GONNA SOLVE THE PROBLEM WHEN, UM, LEGENDS AND PAM JOE'S CURRENTLY HAVE RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE SECURITY FOR THESE ADJACENT PARKING LOTS.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, BIGGER PICTURE HERE.
I THINK THIS BODY NEEDS TO CONSIDER, AND ESPECIALLY AGAIN, WITH THE MOVING PART OF WHAT THE CITY'S TRYING TO DO.
UM, SO I THINK WE NEED SOME KIND OF, YOU KNOW, LONGER TERM OR BIGGER PICTURE APPROACH TO THIS PROBLEM.
UH, THE LIGHTING ONLY EXPOSES THE PROBLEM.
IT DOESN'T RESOLVE THE PROBLEM.
SO WITH THAT, YOU HAVE THE LIGHTING, YOU SEE PROBLEMS, BUT THERE'S NO ONE TO ENFORCE IT.
SO WHAT WE REALLY NEED ARE SOME KIND OF ENFORCEMENT, EITHER BY POLICE OR BY SOME KIND OF OTHER DESIGNATED AGENCY, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
BUT RIGHT NOW, JUST CLOSING A LOSS WILL FORCE THOSE PEOPLE OUT ONTO THE STREETS OF THE RESIDENTS AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE EVEN MORE PROBLEMS. AND WHEN THE CITY GRANTS CONDITIONAL USE PREVENTS OR EXPANDED LICENSES FOR HARD LIQUOR LICENSES, THEY DESIGNATE PARKING LOTS AROUND THE SHORE AS PLACES THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN THOSE EXPANDED LICENSES.
IT SEEMS TO BE THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BE OPEN AT ALL TIMES.
AND SO THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME ENFORCEMENT AND THE, YOU HAVE SOME SECURITY THAT YOU'RE PAYING $300,000 FOR, BUT WE'RE TOLD THAT THEY HAVE NO WAY TO ENFORCE ANYTHING.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE DO TOO, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH POLICE TO DEAL WITH IT CURRENTLY.
SO THOSE NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.
AND THE, AND CONDITIONS THAT EXIST ALREADY NEED TO BE ENFORCED.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S NOT DONE PROACTIVELY BY THE CITY.
CITY RELIES ON US TO DO IT, AND THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE AT LATE HOURS.
SO THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A DISCUSSION, BUT IN THIS DISCUSSION, WE'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO COMMENT.
WE'RE NOT, UH, PARTICIPANTS IN THE CONDUCT DISCUSSIONS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT YOU'RE HAVING WITH THE CITY THAT YOU'RE HAVING WITH PUBLIC WORKS.
AND THAT DOESN'T SEEM CORRECT THAT RESIDENTS LIVE HERE, WE PAY TAXES AND WE'RE WE'RE, UH, CERTAINLY GLAD THEY HAVE SECOND STREET THERE AS FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.
BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE SECURITY FOR EVERYBODY AND EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO COMMENT AND PARTICIPATE.
SO I HOPE THAT YOU'LL HEAR THAT AND I HOPE SOME ACTION WILL BE TAKEN ON THAT.
NO THING VERY MUCH, UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND.
WE NEED, UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF RECEIVING THIS REPORT.
UH, WE ARE, UH, AT PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE MEETING.
WE MAY SAY, UH, ADDRESS ANYTHING THAT YOU WANTED TO FIND
UM, I ENTERED THE NEW YEAR WITH THIS HOPE OF LIKE MAKING ACTUAL CHANGE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND TRYING TO FIND BETTER WAYS TO DO THAT.
AND I'M NOT SOMEBODY WHO DOES A RESOLUTION, SO IT SEEMS TO BE A SPIRIT A LOT OF PEOPLE EMBRACE WITH DO A RESOLUTION.
SO MY RESOLUTION IN THIS CONTEXT WAS TO HELP PEOPLE SEE THINGS THROUGH A DIFFERENT LENS AND MAYBE GIVE A BETTER TOOL TO DO THINGS.
SO IN THAT SPIRIT, I WAS WONDERING IF ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS MIGHT TAKE UP A RESOLUTION
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ON A NUMBER OF FRONTS.ONE IS TRANSPARENCY SO THAT, UM, WE GET EXPLANATIONS FOR THINGS LIKE WHY JODI NEED IS STILL ON THE COMMISSION A YEAR LATER AFTER IS BEEN BOLD ON SECOND STREET AND SHE'S NOT HERE.
UM, TRANSPARENCY REGARDING POTENTIAL CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, NATURAL CONFLICTS OF INTEREST IN TERMS OF COMMISSIONERS WHO GOT ALCOHOL SERVING BUSINESSES WHO ARE VOTING ON POLICIES THAT IMPACT THEIR BUSINESSES BY SPENDING DOWN PUBLIC DOLLARS TO DO SO AND MAKING SURE THOSE DISCLOSURES ARE OPEN AND, AND CONSISTENT AT EVERY MEETING.
IDEALLY, UM, COMMUNICATION PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE RESOLUTION I HOPE TO SEE MORE OF FROM THIS BODY IN 2026 SO THAT, UM, ALL THOSE RESIDENTS WHO ARE IN THOSE PARKING LOTS ADJACENT TO THERE AND ALL THE ONES ON THE SIDE STREETS WHERE THIS EGRESS INGRESS CONCEPTS ARE, MAYBE THEY'LL GET A MAILING THAT SAYS THIS IS BEING DISCUSSED AT A COMMISSION MEETING AND THAT THEY'LL HAVE AN INPUT MECHANISM FOR THAT AHEAD OF TIME RATHER THAN SHOWING UP ON A THURSDAY AT 9:00 AM HOPEFULLY.
AND THE, UH, THE NOTION THAT YOU CAN HAVE PUBLIC FORUM AND DRAW PEOPLE IN, GET IDEAS MUCH LIKE YOU DID WITH THE SIGNAGE, UH, A COUPLE YEARS AGO, THAT TOO, NOT BEED YET.
AND THAT, UM, THINGS LIKE SPENDING FOR RFPS AND PROPOSALS THEY'RE RECEIVING AND VENDORS GO THROUGH A PROCESS WHEREBY THEY'RE NOTICED HERE AND DISCUSSED IN THEIR ROOM RATHER THAN JUST BEING TRANSPORTED THROUGH CITY MECHANISMS IN THE DEAD OF NIGHT.
AND THAT PEOPLE CAN HAVE AN AWARENESS OF HOW MUCH IS BEING SPENT FOR A SECURITY THEATER THAT'S NOT GOING TO RESULT IN ANYTHING.
WHILE THIS MICHELLE AND OTHERS HAVE SAID, THE CITY'S UNDERTAKING A LOT OF STUDY ABOUT HOW TO APPROACH THIS PROBLEM AS A HOLISTIC THING, NOT JUST HERE, BUT ACROSS THE CITY.
AND THAT SEEMINGLY THERE'S, UH, IGNORANCE AND, AND A POLITE DECISION TO MOVE PAST THOSE, UH, FACTORS HERE.
TO DO THINGS THAT ARE ONLY INTERNAL, YOU HAVE TO SPEND MONEY AND DON'T HAVE EFFICACY OR STANDARDS OR DATA ALIGNMENT.
SO PLEASE TAKE UP A COUPLE RESOLUTIONS I'D LOVE TO SEE IN FEBRUARY.
ANY ANYBODY WANT RESOLVED TO SHARE WITH US AS THE COMMUNITY? THANK YOU.
UH, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? ANY TOPIC? UH, I NEED A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR, JUST WANTED.