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NOTHING.BE BANGING THE TABLE AROUND YOU,
ALL RIGHT, WE'LL HAVE A CALL TO ORDER AT FIVE OH FOUR AND WE HAVE A ROLL CALL.
BRIDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, DO THE HONOR.
STATES OF AMERICA, NATION UNDER GOD IN WITH LIBERTY OF JUSTICE FOR ALL.
DID ANYBODY LEAVE THAT, SO TO SPEAK? OKAY.
UM, JENNY, YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO GET A, UM, THE NICK WAS GONNA CALL YOU ABOUT THE, UM, THE WORD, THE STATEMENT WE WERE GONNA PUT THROUGH THE COUNCIL.
BEFORE WE MOVE ON, IS THIS THE OPENING REMARKS FOR NUMBER ONE, BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, CAN WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BEFORE WE TAKE YOUR REMARKS? CAN I GET A MOTION? MOTION? SECOND, SECOND.
ALL RIGHT, NOW WE'RE ON TO MY REMARKS.
WE TAKE IT, IT ISN'T GONNA BE MUCH JUST THAT WE WERE HAVING A RESOLUTION.
WE CREATED A RESOLUTION AND IT KIND OF GOT, IT WAS IN THE, OR A PORTION OF IT WAS IN THE REPORT THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE COUNCIL BY GINA.
SO I CALLED UP, I CONTACTED NICK, WHO'S THE CHIEF OF STAFF FOR THIRD DISTRICT.
HE'S THE ONE WHO KIND OF WROTE IT FOR US.
HE'S DONE A LOT OF THESE, SO HE'S REALLY GOOD AT IT.
SO I GOT HIM THE ORIGINAL TEXT AND HE WAS GONNA CALL YOU AND TELL YOU THERE'S A PROCESS, HOW THIS WORKS.
IT LIKE GETS PUT A CERTAIN PLACE.
IT'S, IT'S TECHNICAL, BUT IT'S MOVING FORWARD.
THE OTHER PIECE IS THE AT LARGE PART'S PROBABLY GONNA HAPPEN IN SUMMER.
I TRIED GETTING THIRD TO DO IT, BUT SHE'S A LITTLE HEAVY ON PEOPLE IN COMMISSIONS, SO IT WOULDN'T LOOK GOOD FOR HER TO BE PUSHING THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE.
BUT I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN REASSURED THAT IN THE SUMMER IT'LL BE BROUGHT UP BY COUNSEL.
SO I THINK WE'LL GET, WE'LL GET THERE.
BUT JUST LIKE ANYTHING WITH THIS THING, IT MOVES AT A, AT ITS OWN PACE.
THEY DID GET THE COVID SHOTS AT THE VA.
'CAUSE WHEN I WAS AT THE, THE MONTHLY, UM, BREAKFAST OUT IN THE PATIO, I HAPPENED TO RUN INTO THE DIRECTOR OF, OF THE VA OF TOP DOG.
AND I CHALLENGED HIM ON IT AND HE SAID, OH YEAH, WE'VE GOT IT BACK TODAY.
AND I LITERALLY GOT THE SHOT LIKE A WEEK LATER.
SO ANYBODY WHO WANTS IT FROM THE VA, IT IS AS IF THEY DO HAVE THE COVID SHOTS AT THE VA.
YOU JUST HAVE TO GO THROUGH YOUR PRIMARY PERSON.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF RECEIVE AND FILE BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? ON MY COMMENTS? WE HAVE TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON IT SINCE IT IS A ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF RECEIVING FILE? AYE.
OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS? HEARING NONE.
OKAY, FOR THE MINUTES, CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? APPROVE THE MINUTES.
YOU HAVE THE MINUTES IN FRONT OF YOU.
ANY COMMENTS, CORRECTIONS ON THE MINUTES AS THEY'RE WRITTEN? OH, WE DID A LOT FOR NOT DOING A LOT.
PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE MINUTES.
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HEARING NONE.ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN? AYE.
OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS? HEARING NONE.
MOTION FOR RECEIVING FILE OF ACTIVITIES OF THE VS.
I GOTTA LOOK AT MY STICKY REAL QUICK.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, I KNOW, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY, UH, THANK YOU FOR STEPHANIE BEING HERE AT, I JUST BLANKED ON YOUR LAST NAME.
STEPHANIE ALEK IS THE ACTING, UH, BUREAU MANAGER FOR THE BUREAU THAT I'M IN, COLLECTIVE IMPACT.
SO, UH, STEPHANIE S YOU'RE ACTING HI,
WE HAVE KEN, JERRY, NICK, JIM AND ROCHELLE AND JERRY, I THINK YOU FORGOT YOUR NAME THING OVER THERE.
JR, BUT OH, JR YOU'RE VISITING.
I GOT YOU'RE SITTING AT THE TABLE WITH US.
JR JERRY, HE HE IS THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
I LITERALLY, WE LITERALLY JUST CAME IN FROM SACRAMENTO, LIKE DRIVING.
IT'S, IT'S, UH, I'LL TELL YOU GUYS IN A MINUTE.
SO ANYWAY, THE PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE DO YOUR FORM.
THESE ARE REQUIRED FORMS. YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED AN EMAIL.
IF YOU DIDN'T, I WILL SEND A REMINDER.
BUT THESE ARE THE, ARE THESE CONFLICT OF INTEREST STATEMENTS, YOU KNOW, UM, FOUR, 700 IS YES.
AND THIS IS THE ONE THAT HAS TO BE DONE, I BELIEVE, EVERY YEAR, WHEREAS THE, UH, THE OTHER ONE IS DONE EVERY OTHER YEAR.
OKAY, WHILE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT, WILL WE GET NOTICES ON THESE THINGS? 'CAUSE I, THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHEN YOU'RE TELLING US, OH, YOU HAVE TWO DAYS LEFT TO DO IT.
I NEVER KNEW I HAD TO DO, THAT'S HOW I GET NOTICES.
UNFORTUNATELY, I, YEAH, IT'S, I DON'T, I'M ONLY ASKING IF THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO GET NOTICES TIME.
I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU GO, WHICH IS THE PLACE THAT YOU DO THESE TRAININGS IN DOESN'T HAVE LIKE AN AUTOMATIC THING.
YEAH, BECAUSE IT ENDS UP GOING TO THE HEAD OF HR IN OUR DEPARTMENT.
MY WORK DOES DAVID THOMPSON, AND THEN HE SENDS IT TO ME SAYING THEY NEED TO DO THIS RIGHT NOW.
WHEN IS IT GENERALLY DUE AGAIN? IS IT DUE BY THE JANUARY, JANUARY 31ST? COULDN'T TELL YOU.
SO YOU NEED TO CHECK HIS EMAIL WITH, WITH HIS, UM, CONTACT INFORMATION TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CORRECT AT THAT, THE CITY.
SO WHATEVER CONTACT FOR THIS COMMISSION SOMEHOW.
NO, I'M JUST SAYING, OH, IF YOU'RE HAVING ISSUES, THEN SHE NEEDS TO VERIFY THAT YOUR EMAIL WITH THE CITY FOR THIS COMMISSION IS CORRECT.
I DON'T KNOW IF I GOT THE NEXT ONE.
JUST WANNA MAKE, I HAVEN'T GOTTEN THEM IN THE PAST.
THIS DOESN'T HURT FOR HER TO CHECK.
IT'S MY COMMENTS GONNA CATCH UP.
I'M, I'M TRYING TO GET GOOD AT THIS SO THAT SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO DO THIS FOR ME.
THE, UH, THE OTHER THINGS I WANTED TO BRING UP IS, UM, IF YOU COULD TURN YOUR AGENDAS TO THE PAGE THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS.
IT HAS THE BASIC SCHEDULE FOR THIS YEAR.
UM, SO I HAVE THE COMMISSION MEETINGS HERE, AND THEN I HAVE ACTIVITIES AT THE BOTTOM.
SO FOR RIGHT NOW, UNLESS YOU DECIDE TO CHANGE THE MEETING DATE, THESE ARE THE MEETING DATES FOR THE SECOND WEDNESDAY OF EACH MONTH AS WE HAVE BEEN DOING THE ACTIVITIES.
ROUGHLY MARCH TO JULY IS THE VETERANS BANNERS PROGRAM.
SO THIS IS HOW WE DID IT LAST YEAR.
THE NOMINATION PERIOD, THE, THE SELECTION OF WHO'S IN AND WHO THE ALTERNATES ARE, THE PREPARATION OF THE ART, WHICH MEANS CHASING DOWN PHOTOS EVERYWHERE.
AND THEN THE INSTALLATION, SO LAST YEAR WAS MARCH THROUGH JULY.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I DID.
BUT IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE COMMITTEE.
THEY WANT TO DELAY DOING THE OPENING OR HAVE THE, OR NOT THE OPENING, THE APPLICATION PERIOD.
THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN STRETCH IT.
SO MAY AND NOVEMBER IS WHEN I PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL ON THE, UH, THE MEMORIAL DAY AND VETERANS DAY EVENTS AND THE MEMORIAL DAY EVENT THIS YEAR WERE, I AM IN DISCUSSION WITH USS FRANKIE EVANS, AND WE'LL TALK LATER ABOUT GETTING AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TOGETHER TO HELP PLAN THAT EVENT.
BUT IT WILL BE ON SUNDAY, MAY 24TH, 2026.
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SO, AS YOU KNOW, IN 20 OR MAY REMEMBER IN 2023 AND 2024, WE HAD OUR MEMORIAL DAY EVENT CALLED, UM, UH, HONORING OUR HEROES.A SUNSET CEREMONY IS THE SAME PLACE AS WE DID LAST YEAR'S EVENT ON JUNE 3RD WITH THE USS FRANKIE EVANS.
THEN WE'RE GOING BACK TO SUNDAY, BUT WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH FRANKIE EVANS.
SO IT'LL BE LIKE A COMBINATION OF GENERAL, UH, MEMORIAL DAY, BUT ALSO HAVE SOME SPECIFICS ON THE USS FRANKIE EVANS.
AND THEN THE NOVEMBER 7TH IS THE LONG BEACH VETERANS DAY CELEBRATION, WHICH IS THE SATURDAY BEFORE VETERANS DAY AS IT USUALLY IS.
AND THEN DID WHAT, CAN I JUST ASK, WHAT'S MAY 24TH SAYS SATURDAY.
BECAUSE GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE TRY TO STAY AWAY FROM ALL THE EVENTS BEING PLANNED FOR FLEET WEEK.
AND WE ALSO TRY TO, HELLO ANTOINETTE, YOU WANNA GRAB AN AGENDA AND YOUR YES.
SO, UM, BASICALLY THE, WHERE WAS I? I'M SORRY, I GOT LOST.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FRANKIE EVANS AND 24, RIGHT? OH YEAH.
AND THE DATE, WE, WE GENERALLY KEEP IT AWAY FROM ALL THE MEMORIAL DAY EVENTS ON THAT MONDAY.
AND WE TRY TO SCHEDULE IT KIND OF THE, THE BIGGEST DAY AS I UNDERSTAND IT AT, UM, FLEET WEEK IS MONDAY.
SO HAVING IT ON SUNDAY JUST SEEMS LIKE THE RIGHT TIME TO HAVE IT AND FOCUS IT ON LONG BEACH.
WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE IT BE A FLEET WEEK EVENT THIS YEAR.
BUT AGAIN, WHEN WE GET THIS AD HOC COMMITTEE TOGETHER, WE'LL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT MORE.
LEMME JUST CHECK MY NOTES HERE.
BESIDES THE FORM 700, THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE SS FRANKIE EVANS WILL, UH, I THINK THE REST IS COVERED IN THE AGENDA.
SO THAT WILL CONCLUDE MY, MY REPORT.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF, WAIT A MINUTE.
YOU WILL ASK, OH, EXCUSE ME, PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND IF ANY OF YOU HAVE COMMENTS AS WELL, COMMENTS, PUBLIC COMMENTS, ASSORTED COMMENTS? NO.
HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF RECEIVING FILE, PLEASE SAY, AYE.
I, I DO HAVE SOMETHING TO, TO JUST ADD.
UM, I AM HAVING A KNEE REPLACEMENT SURGERY ON JANUARY 28TH.
SO THERE'S, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT WE WILL NOT HAVE A FEBRUARY MEETING BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO GET SOMEONE TO CLERK IT.
AND SO FAR I'VE HAD NO LUCK, WHICH IS TO HELP TAKE MINUTES AND KEEP THINGS GOING.
SO, UH, WE MAY DEFER WHAT WE WOULD BE DISCUSSING IN FEBRUARY TO A MARCH MEETING.
'CAUSE I HAVE TO STAY HOME FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME TO HEAL AND THEN I'LL HAVE TO WORK FROM HOME AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SO I WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW IN ADVANCE THAT THE FEBRUARY MEETING MAY BE CANCELED.
UM, ALSO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BRING ME FOOD DURING THAT TIME OR ANY
SO, UM, WHAT I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE, UM, HAPPEN IS THAT WE HAVE, YOU AS COMMITTEES ARE EMPOWERED TO CONTINUE THE, THE BANNERS COMMITTEE, THE COMMITTEE THAT WE HOPE TO FORM TODAY WITH MEMORIAL DAY.
IT SHOULDN'T STOP THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING BECAUSE I'M TECHNICALLY ONLY GONNA BE GONE FOR TWO WEEKS.
UM, BUT THEY'RE PRETTY RESTRICT ON WHEN YOU'RE NOT, WHEN YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE OFFICE.
YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE OFFICE.
UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I KNOW WE ALREADY VOTED AND THIS AND THAT, BUT I FORGOT THAT POINT.
UM, ALL RIGHT, NOW WE'RE ON NUMBER FOUR.
CAN I GET A MOTION ON NUMBER FOUR AND A SECOND MOTION IN.
WE HAVE JERRY MAKING A MOTION FOR NUMBER FOUR, SECOND HERSCHEL.
UM, I'VE BEEN, I MAY OR MAY NOT END UP ON THE BOARD OF THE BELMONT HEIGHTS ASSOCIATION.
IT'S A DISTINCT POSSIBILITY AND THEY MEET ON THE SECOND WEDNESDAY AT THE SAME TIME WE DO.
SO AS WE'RE AT THE THIRD WEDNESDAY, RIGHT NOW, MY REQUEST IS I MOVE THAT WE MOVE THE MEETING DATE TO THE THIRD WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH AS SINCE WE'VE ALL BEEN ABLE TO MAKE IT TODAY.
HOPEFULLY THAT'S A SIGN THAT IT IS NOT A CONFLICT DATE.
SO IF YOU CAN ALL PULL OUT YOUR CALENDARS
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AND TAKE A LOOK AND SEE IF THAT CONFLICT WAS SOMETHING YOU'RE ALREADY DOING OR ALREADY COMMITTED TO.AND WE WILL OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
FOR A FEW MINUTES IN MARCH, I WILL BE GONE.
I WILL BE IN HAWAII ON THE THIRD HAWAII.
FROM, FROM WHAT, WHAT, JIM? SORRY.
AS MATTER OF FACT, I, THEY SCHEDULED IT SO I WOULD MISS THE SECOND, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
WE'VE GOT QUORUM NOW, RIGHT? I DON'T HAVE TO BE HERE.
WE COULD, IF EVERYBODY SHOWS UP, WE HAVE QUORUM.
COULD HAVE HAPPENED ON THE SECOND WEDNESDAY.
SO, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, LET'S PUT IT TO A VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CHANGING OUR MEETING DATE TO THE THIRD WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH, PLEASE SAY, AYE.
SO BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, I'M SORRY.
UM, LITTLE POINTS OF PROCEDURE HERE.
SO SINCE WE ARE GOING TO AMEND THE MOTION TO SET IT FOR THE THIRD WEEK, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION IS DISCUSS MOVING THE VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING TO A NEW DATE.
BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE A SPECIFIC DATE, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MAKER OF THE MOTION IS OKAY WITH, UH, UH, AGREES TO THE AMENDED MOTION, WHICH IS THE THIRD MONTH OR THIRD WEEK OF THE MONTH.
SO IT JUST WASN'T PROPERLY PUT IN HERE, SO IT WAS PROPERLY PUT IN HERE.
SO IT WAS PROPERLY PUT IN HERE, BUT WE DIDN'T, UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE CONSENT SINCE OUR CONSENTS FROM EVERYBODY YET TOO, SO IT WAS JUST, WE DID NEW DATE, SO.
COMMISSIONER EARL, ARE YOU OKAY WITH, UM, UH, THE, UH, MOTION AND THE DEMOTION BEING THIRD WEDNESDAY? YES.
THAT'S ACTUALLY A WEDNESDAY THAT IS WIDE OPEN FOR ME.
FIRST IS, UH, LIKE YOU SAID, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SECOND WAS GREAT, BUT I CAN MOVE INTO THE THIRD.
AND COMMISSIONER HERMAN, ARE YOU AGREEABLE TO THAT AS WELL? OKAY, NOW GO AHEAD.
AND THAT WOULD BE STARTING WITH WHICH MONTH? NEXT MONTH IF WE HAVE, IF, IF THERE SHOULD BE, GET SOMEBODY TO CLERK THE MEETING IN FEBRUARY.
SHOULD THERE BE A MEETING IN FEBRUARY? IT WOULD START IN FEBRUARY, SHOULD THERE NOT, IT'S NOT, IT'S A MO IT'S A MOOT POINT.
WHEN, WHEN IS YOUR SURGERY? THE 20TH OF, OF, UH, FE OF JANUARY.
YOU'LL BE BE OKAY BY THE THIRD WEDNESDAY.
SHOULD BE DANCING IN THE STREETS.
JUST PAINFUL FOR THE FIRST MONTH OR TWO.
SHE'S WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND SHE'S TELLS ME OUT WITH, YOU KNOW, TAKING MINUTES WHILE THINGS ARE HAPPENING INSTEAD OF ME TRYING TO READ MY HANDWRITING OR LISTEN TO A RECORDING LATER.
KEEPING US, GETTING US RETRAINED INTO DOING, SINCE OUR PROCEDURES CORRECTLY, SINCE WE'RE STILL DISCUSSING THAT, WE ARE STILL IN DISCUSSIONS OF IT.
UH, NOVEMBER, UH, OUR MEETING WAS ON NOVEMBER 11TH SCHEDULED FOR IT, WHICH WAS VETERAN'S DAY.
SO, UH, THIS IS AN OLD, YEAH, THIS WOULD BE THE SECOND.
SO IT WOULD JUST, IT WOULD BE THE 18TH.
YEAH, I GUESS THAT WOULDN'T HURT AFTER, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS YEAR WE TRIED TO HAVE A MEETING, OR LAST YEAR WE TRIED TO HAVE A MEETING BEFORE THE, THE EVENT MM-HMM
BEFORE THE VETERAN'S DAY EVENT.
IT'S PROBABLY BETTER TO HAVE IT TWO WEEKS AFTER THE EVENT.
I, I'M JUST FOR DISCUSSION, UM, ARE YOU ASKING UM, IF WE SHOULD BE MEETING, HAVING A MEETING AS A WHOLE GROUP BEFORE VETERANS DAY? WE DO.
WE, WE ARE DOING THAT WITH THE OCTOBER MEETING, BASICALLY.
SO OCTOBER ONE WILL BE CLOSE ENOUGH FINAL AND, AND WE HAVE A COMMITTEE STRUCTURE.
SO, UH, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS A VETERAN'S DAY PLANNING COMMITTEE THAT REPORTS OUT AND GETS, YOU KNOW, GETS UH, APPROVAL ON WHATEVER THEIR PLANS ARE WITH THE REST OF YOU.
JUST THOUGHT I'D BRING NO, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FOR NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS MOTION.
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AND ANTOINETTE, DO YOU WANNA TAKE THAT ONE? BANNERS COMMITTEE? OH, ME? YEAH.UH, WHAT, WHAT SPECIFICALLY HAS ANYTHING BEEN DONE? HAVE WE MET AT ALL OR? OH, I, I THOUGHT YOU WERE ON.
I AM, BUT I WAS GONNA ASK IF WE CAN MOVE THE TIME BECAUSE I'M NOT ABLE TO MAKE ANY OF THEM.
THEY DO IT ON AT 10:00 AM RIGHT.
SO I WANTED TO, TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT MOVED TO A TIME THAT I'LL BE ABLE TO ATTEND.
UM, WHO WAS THAT, THE LAST ONE WHO WERE ON THE CALL FOR THE LAST ONE, THE LAST MEETING? ME, ME AND JERRY.
DOES ONE OF YOU WANT TO TAKE ON, JUST TELL US WHAT HAPPENED? NO, 'CAUSE I WASN'T PREPARED.
I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT UNTIL JUST NOW.
SO YEAH, I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, I ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, PROCESS AND, UH, THAT I WOULD, YOU KNOW, GET DOCUMENTS, UH, UH, BASED ON THE PROCESS FROM LAST YEAR.
AND, UH, I WAS ALSO ASKED IF THERE WAS THINGS I WANTED TO CHANGE, BUT I SAID NO.
I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH IT ONCE SO I COULD SEE HOW IT GOES BEFORE HAVING ANY IDEAS.
UM, AND, AND WE'RE GONNA MEET WEEKLY AND WE'RE FROM NOW ON RIGHT FROM HERE OUT, YOU KNOW, FROM HERE ON OUT, UH, ON FRIDAYS ISSUE AT THIS TIME.
ARE WE ABLE TO NOT MOVE THAT? I WORK 10:00 AM EVERY FRIDAY.
'CAUSE THAT, THAT'S ACTUALLY A DAY OFF.
WHAT, WHAT TIME HER? SHE 10 30.
SO WHAT IS, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST MAKE A A COM A COMMENT AND THAT IS, ANTOINETTE, YOU WOULD STILL BE WELCOME TO BE, TO BE PART OF THE COMMITTEE AND THE SELECTION PROCESS, EVEN IF YOU CAN'T MAKE THE 10:00 AM BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS BEFORE.
SO IF, IF IT ARE NOT POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO MOVE THE, THE, THE 10:00 AM FOR THE THREE OF YOU, I WOULD JUST SUGGEST THAT I CHECK IN WITH YOU, WITH YOU IN, WITH YOU ON THE PROGRESS OR WHATEVER DECISIONS ARE MADE.
UM, THAT IS AN OPTION TO CONSIDER TOO.
'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO MEET TILL LIKE SIX 15 IN THE EVENING, CORRECT? YEAH.
SO WHAT, WHAT'S WOULD LIKE, I, I'M AVAILABLE.
YOU'RE SAYING FIVE 30? FRIDAY AT FIVE 30.
I'LL, I'LL NEVER BE THERE FRIDAY AT FIVE 30.
THAT'S GOING OUT TO DINNER NIGHT, HUH? OKAY.
SO IS THERE A DIFFERENT DAY AT FIVE 30 THAT WORKS? WHAT'S THAT? IS THERE A DIFFERENT DAY AT FIVE 30 THAT WORKS A DIFFERENT DAY AS OPPOSED TO FRIDAY SINCE THAT'S DINNER DATE? UH, DO WE HAVE ANOTHER DAY DURING THE WEEK IF WE'RE GONNA DO IT EVERY WEEK? AND IF I MAKE IN, I JUST, I DIDN'T CATCH YOU THE, THE MOTION THE SECOND OCTOBER, BUT I KNOW WE HAVE, I WAS GONNA ASK WHO MOTION MADE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THIS OR, OR RECEIVING PHOTOS? CAN YOU RECALL? I THINK JERRY DID, AND THEN HE SAID INTERNET SECONDED.
SO IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE TALKING IN, IN THE EVENINGS, THURSDAYS I GUESS IS OKAY FOR, FOR ME IF THAT'S OKAY.
SO WE HAVE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT OF ADDING THE CHANGE OF THE DATE AND TIME OF THE MEETING.
THAT'S YOUR, SO, OH, SHE'S A AND OKAY.
AND, AND YOU SAY CHANGING THE DATE AND THE TIME.
THURSDAY AT WHAT TIME? FIVE 30.
AND DOES THAT START TOMORROW? IT CAN.
ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? BECAUSE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO MEET THIS FRIDAY.
SO I THINK IT'D BE THIS, IF IT'S TOO LATE FOR THIS WEEK, WE COULD DO THIS WEEK.
YOU GUYS CAN, SO TOMORROW, NO.
REALLY? I'M JUST LIKE, HOW I JUST GOT HERE.
ARE WE GONNA DO TOMORROW? I COULD, I COULD DO IT TOMORROW IF I JUST REMIND MYSELF TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND TALK TO YOURSELF AND SAY OKAY.
AND, AND GINA, BEFORE WE HAVE THE MEETING TOMORROW, IF YOU COULD SEND US THE, THE, THE EVALUATION FORM THAT WE USED LAST YEAR, RIGHT? YEAH.
YOU SENT US, I FORGET WHAT YOU SENT US.
FIVE 30 TOMORROW DOES NOT WORK FOR ME.
SO FIVE 30 DOESN'T WORK FOR YOU? NOT TOMORROW.
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I'M ABOUT TO HAVE MY SURVEY.YEAH, MAYBE WE COULD, SINCE WE ALL PLANNED ON FRIDAY.
IS IS THAT OKAY TO DO FRIDAY THE WAY WE WERE GOING TO YEAH, YEAH.
WE CAN FRIDAY AT 10 30 AND IT'LL START THE FOLLOWING WEEK AND IT'LL START THE FOLLOWING WEEK.
WELL THAT WILL BE WHEN I'M, WHEN YOU GUYS WILL BE LEANING ON YOUR OWN.
AND I, I KEEP HEARING PEOPLE SAY 10 O'CLOCK AND I WROTE DOWN 10 30 FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
WHEN, WHEN IS IT? I, I'LL DOUBLE CHECK IT AND AS JUST REMIND YOU ALL AND FO IN THE FOLLOWING MEETINGS WHEN IT'S AT FIVE 30.
CAN YOU, CAN YOU TAKE THE LEAD ON THAT? SURE.
I DON'T HAVE ZOOM, BUT I, I MEAN, UM, YOU'LL TAKE YOUR VOICE, ADD UP ONE OF THOSE LINKS THAT YOU SEND TO PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN JOIN THE TEAMS. YEAH.
UNLESS YOU'RE GONNA MEET IN PERSON TEAMS. I THINK IT SOUNDED LIKE IT'S GONNA BE A VIDEO MEETING.
YOU'RE THE COMMITTEE VIDEO MEETING.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ONE OF THOSE OR YOU GET A FREE ONE, RIGHT? BUT THEN IF YOU GO OVER THE TIME LIMIT, THEN THE CALL YEAH, ZOOM IS FREE UP TO 45 MINUTES AND THEN IT GIVES YOU THE, IT'S A GOOD, IT'S A GOOD, UM, INCENTIVE TO FINISH QUICKLY.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL WORK G YOU GUYS CAN WORK THAT OUT OFFLINE.
SO ALL THOSE ARE A PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANY OTHER COMMENT? SO THE AMENDED MOTION IS WE'RE GOING TO BE CHANGING THE ME THE BANNERS COMMITTEE TO THURSDAYS AT FIVE 30 STARTING NEXT WEEK.
29TH NEXT THURSDAY, WHATEVER THAT IS.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
CAN, CAN I BELIEVE THAT WE TOOK THE ITEMS A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER? SO THE LA NO, WE JUST DISCUSSED THE ITEM NUMBER SIX.
RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A REPORT FROM THE 2026 VETERANS BANNER AD HOC COMMITTEE.
AND THAT ONE IS, OH, I GOT IT.
RECEIVE FILE REPORT FROM THE 2025 VETERANS BANNER AD HOC COMMITTEE AND TAKE ACTION TO DISSOLVE THE COMMITTEE FOR APPROPRIATE.
CAN I GET A MOTION PLEASE? I MOVE.
IT'S BASICALLY DISSOLVING THE LAST COMMITTEE.
SO SINCE WE HAVE ALL NEW MEMBERS, WE HAVE NEW MEMBERS, OLD MEMBERS, IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT WE DISSOLVE LAST YEAR'S COMMITTEE.
SO THE MOTION WON'T, IT'S AS IT SAYS WILL BE DISSOLVING.
THE MOTION WILL BE TO DISSOLVE LAST THE 2025 COMMITTEE.
AND YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THE 2026 COMMITTEE LAST MONTH.
UM, PUBLIC COMMENT, HEARING NONE.
UM, YOU, YOU WANTED TO GO OVER SOME OF THIS OR SAY WHAT YOU WOULD CHANGE FROM THE, FROM LAST YEAR'S PROGRAM SO THAT THIS IS THE TIME FOR YOU TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
YOU WANTED THIS ON THE AGENDA.
UM, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND YOU GUYS WILL WORK OUT THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF WHAT THIS MEANS IS CHANGING THE, THE, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WE USE FOR THE RANK, THE SCORING.
SO WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE THE MILITARY SERVICE PORTION AND PROBABLY DE EITHER DECREASE OR KEEP THE SAME.
THE PUBLIC SERVICE CHANGE THE PROPORTION A LITTLE BIT.
RIGHT NOW WE CAN PUT AN EQUAL PROPORTION OF RELATIVELY EQUAL PROPORTION OF YEAH, IT'S NOT, I I LOOKED, I LOOKED AT THE LAST ONE.
I THINK IT'S LIKE 60 40 OR SOMETHING LAST YEAR.
BUT, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT HOW MANY POINTS FOR EACH QUESTION.
THE MILITARY, THERE'S NOTHING WAS ONLY THREE POINTS.
AND THE CITY STUFF WAS FOUR POINTS.
SO YEAH, YOU COULD SCORE FOUR UP THERE, BUT ONLY THREE DOWN HERE AND YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE AND ALL THAT.
BUT YOU GUYS WILL DIG THROUGH THE NUTS AND BOLTS AND SAY, OKAY, WE, WE, WE SCORED THE BIG ONE LAST YEAR, WHICH IS YOU HAVE TO HAVE HONORABLE SERVICE
THAT WAS A REALLY BIG CHANGE AND THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD BIG CHANGE.
'CAUSE HAVING SOMEBODY SHUT BY ONE OF OUR BANNERS WHO GOT A DISHONORABLE DISCHARGE WOULD BE REALLY EMBARRASSING.
I, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE TOO MUCH IN THE NUTS AND BOLTS.
WE KNOW WHAT THE OVER THE ONE OVER 50,000 VIEW IS.
WE WANNA MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE OR A LOT MORE EVEN SO PUBLIC SERVICE, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE, ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.
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THE MILITARY, BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO GET THEM TO SHARE WHAT THEY'VE DONE IN THE CITY.THEY MOSTLY SHARED OUT OF THE, THE VAST MAJORITY OF WHAT THEY SHARED WAS FROM THEIR MILITARY SERVICE.
AND IT IS AND IT IS A VETERAN'S AWARD.
THERE'S ALL KINDS OF AWARDS THAT GO YEAH.
MANY IF THERE'S ONLY ONE THAT GOES TO VETERAN SERVICE.
AND WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST TOO IS IN THE INSTRUCTIONS THAT YOU MODIFY THE INSTRUCTIONS A LITTLE BIT TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT, TO DO BOTH IF THEY HAVE ANYTHING, JUST TO PUSH IT OUT THERE.
'CAUSE IT, IT MAY HELP GETTING THEM TO DO IT.
'CAUSE THEY DIDN'T LAST TIME, LAST TIME.
I'D SAY HAVING READ 150 OF THEM, 90% OF THE STUFF WAS ABOUT THEIR, AND AND THERE ARE ONLY A FEW PEOPLE WHO KNEW TO PUT ALL THEIR CIVILIAN OTHER STUFF.
SO JUST SOMETHING FOR YOUR NOTES, FOR YOUR NEXT MEETING, NEXT COUPLE MEETINGS.
I CAN'T BE ON IT UNFORTUNATELY.
SO I WILL BE THERE TO HELP AND I'LL BE THERE TO, IF YOU GUYS WANT ME ON THE REVIEW, THAT'S FINE TOO, BUT I CAN'T BE ON THE COMMITTEE.
UM, NOW WE'VE HAD A DISCUSSION.
ANYTHING ELSE, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? PUBLIC OR COMMISSIONED HEARING NONE.
WELL YOU'RE STILL A BACKUP FOR ME ANYWAYS, RIGHT? YEAH.
I CAN, AS LONG AS THERE AREN'T FOUR AS LONG AS THERE AREN'T FIVE MEMBERS ON A CALL.
SO IF YOU HAVE TO, IF SOMEONE HA IF YOU DON'T HAVE CAN'T BE THERE, YOU CAN TELL ME AND I CAN RUN THE MEETING FROM THAT ONE FROM WHATEVER INSTRUCTIONS YOU GIVE ME.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF DISSOLVING THE 2025 VETERANS BANNER COMMITTEE SAY AYE.
THAT MEANS WE ARE MOVING RIGHT ALONG SINCE I GOT OUT OF ORDER.
I NEED A MOTION ON THE RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS THE 2026 MEMORIAL DAY EVENT.
CAN I GET A MOTION? MOTION FROM HERSCHEL? SECOND.
WE NEED TO SET UP OUR COM COMMITTEE, THE AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR MEMORIAL DAY.
AND AS WE ALL REMEMBER, WE'VE KIND OF SHIFTED OUR FOCUS IN MEMORIAL DAY TOWARDS SUPPORTING THE FRANKIE EVANS ORGANIZATION'S EVENT INSTEAD OF US DOING OUR OWN EVENT.
WHICH IS REALLY IN MY VIEW, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR, OUR PA OUR OUR DOCUMENTATION, THAT'S MORE OF WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE KIND OF DOING.
AND IT'S COMING UP 'CAUSE WE'VE GOT FIVE, WE'VE GOT FOUR MONTHS.
UM, I'LL TAKE THE LEAD ON THAT ONE SINCE YOU'VE GOT THIS ONE.
I'LL TAKE THE LEAD ON THE OTHER ONE AND THEN WE'LL BOTH KIND OF COVER FOR EACH OTHER IF WE NEED TO.
UM, PROBABLY NEED A COUPLE OTHER PE ANYBODY ELSE INTERESTED IN BEING THERE? NICK? NICK WILL HELP ME WITH THAT.
AND ANYBODY ELSE WE'VE GOT GREAT.
JERRY WILL HELP US WITH THAT AS WELL.
IT'S MUCH MORE A CONVERSATIONS WITH GINA TO SEE WHERE THINGS ARE GOING AND WE MIGHT HAVE TO HELP A LITTLE MORE 'CAUSE SHE'S GONNA BE OUTTA ACTION FOR A BIT.
SO, AND GINA, HAVE YOU TALKED ANY THOUGHT, PUT ANYTHING FORWARD FOR YES.
GRANT? OH, I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
UM, THE MEMORIAL DAY EVENT FOR THIS YEAR, LIKE I WAS SAYING IN MY REPORT IS, IS GOING TO BE A COMBINATION WE'RE WORKING WITH YOU AS IS FRANKIE EVANS AGAIN.
AND THEY'RE GONNA TAKE A LEAD ON THE CEREMONY PART AND WE'RE GONNA TAKE A LEAD ON THE LOGISTICS PART.
SO ANY PERMITS NEEDED TO USE THE PARK, WHETHER WE HAVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT COMING FOR HOT DOGS, WE'RE GONNA DO SOME SORT OF RESOURCES FAIR.
UH, LIKE THE LONG BEACH HISTORICAL SOCIETY WOULD, UH, SHOW THE HISTORY OF, OF THE NAVY IN LONG BEACH.
YOU KNOW, UH, WE'LL HAVE A KIDS ZONE AS WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST.
SO I'M COORDINATING PARKS AND REC, UM, AND UH, YEAH, PARKS AND REC PROVIDES THE CHILD STUFF AS WELL.
OR FIRE OR THE PORT IS WHO I'M GOING TO APPLY FOR A GRANT FOR.
AGAIN, UH, WE GOT $5,000 FROM THEM LAST YEAR AND $5,000 FROM THEM THE YEAR BEFORE FOR THIS EVENT.
SO I'LL BE WRITING THAT, THAT GRANT UP.
AND, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A ROBUST COMMITTEE TO HELP WITH, WITH ORGANIZERS AND ALSO, WE'LL WE CAN MEET ONLINE WITH THE US S FRANKIE EVAN FOLKS.
AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, UH, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD GET A BOB HOPE IMPERSONATOR TO HOST, WHICH IS
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JUST A RIOT.IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE COST.
BUT I WATCHED THIS GUY ON YOUTUBE, I'M SORRY THAT I DON'T REMEMBER HIS NAME RIGHT NOW, BUT I COULD PROBABLY SEND THAT TO YOU.
AND I THOUGHT, WELL, YOUNG VETERANS VETERANS AREN'T GONNA KNOW WHO THE HECK BOB HOPE IS.
BUT JUST JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU THERE WE'RE LOOKING INTO ENTERTAINMENT BEING A LITTLE MORE LIVELY AND FUN FOR THIS EVENT.
YOU GOT A FACEBOOK, I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE CROWD WE HAD LAST TIME, I THINK EVERYBODY'S GONNA HAVE
SO YOU'RE PROPOSING TO CHAIR THE COMMITTEE AND THEN THE MEMBERS NICK AND JERRY? YES.
WHICH IN THE, IN THE SMALLER EVENT LIKE THIS, I THINK SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT.
OR IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO, OF COURSE THEY CAN.
AND I JUST ALSO WANNA MAKE CLEAR, UH, THAT THE ENTIRE COMMISSION IS WELCOME TO INPUT AS LONG AS WE DON'T DO THE WAGON WHEEL.
LIKE IF YOU WANT TO SAY, HEY, I REALLY SUGGEST WE DO THIS 'CAUSE WE'RE, WE WANT OPEN AND TRANSPARENT, LIKE WE SHARE WITH YOU THE COMPONENTS OF THE EVENT OR X, Y, AND Z.
AND IF YOU'RE LIKE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T REALLY THINK WE SHOULD HAVE LOBSTER ROLLS THIS THING OR WHATEVER, IT'S, YOU KNOW, JUST, I DO.
UM, DID WE HAVE A VOTE ALREADY? NO, WE'RE JUST GETTING, WE'RE GETTING THERE.
I'M GLAD I ASKED WHAT DATE BECAUSE OURS IS THE FRIDAY BEFORE.
I THINK IT WOULD BE THE NINTH.
AMERICAN GOLD STAR VAN AMERICAN GOLD STAR VAN OR WILL BE THE NINTH.
SO WE'RE A WEEK AWAY WEEK DIFFERENCE IN THE TWO.
YEAH, IT'S THE FRIDAY BEFORE MEMORIAL DAY, RIGHT? YEAH.
A WHAT? SO WE'RE NOT CONFLICTING HEAVILY RIGHT NOW, SO OH, OKAY.
IT'S, YEAH, IT'S USUALLY IT'S THE FRIDAY BEFORE OR WHATEVER THAT DATE THAT IS.
AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT ARE YOU, HOW ARE WE OUTREACHING TO COUNCIL AND ALL THAT TO JUST GENERAL INVITATION OR WE WOULD DO A PRESENTATION USUALLY BEFORE COUNCIL OR THE ELEVATOR WE DO FOR MEMORIAL BECAUSE WE'LL WANT TO INVITE AND SEE WHO WANTS TO WHAT.
IT'S A, WE'RE COMING INTO AN ELECTION YEAR, SO GUESS WHAT? ALL OF OUR EVENTS ARE GONNA HAVE POLITICIANS LINING UP TO BE BEHIND THE FLAG, BE BE NEXT TO THE FLAG AND GET THEIR FACE OUT THERE AND HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO MULTIPLE PEOPLE.
SO I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE ANY PROBLEM GETTING, UH, AN ASSORTMENT OF POLITICIANS TO SHOW UP.
AND THANKS FOR, FOR BEARING WITH ME TODAY AS I, YOU KNOW, USUALLY I METICULOUSLY PREPARE AND GIVE HER, BUT NO WORRY.
THIS IS A DIFFERENT YEAR BECAUSE THE SS FRANKIE EVANS HAS HAD LEGISLATION PROPOSED THAT FEDERAL LEVER LEVEL BY OUR VERY OWN CONGRESS MEMBER GARCIA IN THE HOUSE AND ADAM SCHIFF AND THE SENATE.
BECAUSE REMEMBER THE WHOLE DEAL WITH SS FRANKIE EVANS IS THAT IT HAS NEVER BEEN HONORED BY HAVING ITS NAME ON THE VIETNAM RIGHT.
SO THOSE 74 VETERANS HAVE NEVER BEEN FORMALLY RECOGNIZED AND THEY TRIED FOR 30 YEARS TO GET CONGRESS TO APPROVE ADDING 'EM TO THE WALL.
ALL THAT LEGISLATION IS UP THIS YEAR.
SO THIS WILL BE A BIG EVENT IN TERMS OF, WE MAY HAVE ADAM SCHIFF AND GARCIA AT THE EVENT ITSELF.
SO I WANTED YOU TO JUST KNOW THAT SO YOU COULD LOOK SHARP.
DO YOU KNOW SHARPER THAN NORMAL
THEY'VE ACTUALLY SENT ME THE DETAILS ON THE BILL AND THAT IS, UH, THE NEXT EVENT.
UM, SO WE HAVE A COMMITTEE AND WHEN, 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO START MEETING AND FIGURING THIS OUT WITH GINA AND GINA'S GONNA BE OUT ON THE 28TH.
SO THAT'S THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
SO WE SHOULD HAVE A VOTE ON THIS ONE AND THEN MOVE TO THAT NEXT ONE.
WHAT THE MEETING OR, WELL, WE'RE STILL ON RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS THE 2026 MEMORIAL DAVID AND TAKE ACTION TO CREATE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE.
YEAH, THERE'S A SEPARATE BILL THING ON HR 5 9 4 5.
THAT IS ACTUALLY THE US S FRANKIE EVANS.
NO, I'M, I'M, I'M IN, I'M IN THE, WHAT, WHEN ARE WE GONNA MEET AS A COMMITTEE FOR THE MEMORIAL DAY COMMITTEE.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS, THAT'S WHERE I WAS.
IF WE WANT, WE CAN ALWAYS TAKE THAT SLOT YOU GUYS JUST HAD OFF OF, BECAUSE I'M, I'M PRETTY OPEN.
SO WHAT IS LIKE 10 O'CLOCK OR 10 30 ON FRIDAY? GINA, YOU'RE PROBABLY AT WORK, SO YOU'RE GOOD UNTIL OF COURSE YOU'RE, I ONCE A MONTH.
WE HAVE BOARD MEETING ON THE FRIDAY, BUT SO I MISS ONCE.
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OKAY, THAT'S NOT TOO BAD.WE CAN ALSO DECIDE OFFLINE IF WE WANT TO HAVE IT EVERY OTHER WEEK INITIALLY.
AND LET, I'LL LET YOU KNOW MY FULL SCHEDULE TOO, LIKE, BECAUSE THERE'S NO REASON WHY YOU CAN'T CONTINUE TO MEET.
AND I'M KIND OF TAG, UM, KEN ON THE CHAIR TO HAVE ACCESS TO SELECTED DOCUMENTS FROM LAST YEAR'S PLANNING.
AND, UH, THE SAME WITH THE BANNER'S COMMISSION, I THINK, I THINK THAT'S OKAY.
BECAUSE IF THEY'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO THESE THINGS WITHOUT ME BEING THERE.
LET ME GET MY CALENDAR UP REAL QUICK AND I CAN, BECAUSE I WANNA HAVE AT LEAST ONE WITH YOU BEFORE YOU YEAH.
GO INTO SURGERY AND THEN WE CAN MOVE ON AND JUST HAND YOU THE INFORMATION.
YOU'RE ON SURGERY ON THE 28TH, SO THAT'S NOT GONNA WORK.
AND I'M, I'M WILLING 'CAUSE I HAVE TO PUT IN SOME EXTRA HOURS JUST TO PREPARE.
SO AFTER, AFTER HOURS IS FINE AS WELL.
IF YOU WANNA MEET MONDAY EVENING OR LATE MONDAY.
HOW DOES, HOW DOES MONDAY LOOK FOR YOU GUYS? MONDAY? WHAT TIME? WELL, WHATEVER'S GOOD.
SO DURING WORKING HOURS, PROBABLY FOR G THAT WOULD BE BETTER.
UM, HOW'S MONDAY? WHAT TIME? MONDAY IS HORRIBLE.
HOW ABOUT TUESDAY? TUESDAY IS BAD.
WELL WHAT IF JUST YOU AND I MEET JUST SO I CAN HAND OFF THE DOCUMENTS AND STUFF.
OKAY, LET'S NOT, LET'S NOT WORRY ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW.
AND THIS IS JUST A GENERAL FIRST START.
I'D LIKE TO BE IN ON, I SET ONCE IN A WHILE, FIGURE OUT THE MEETING SCHEDULE.
I HAVE SOMETHING I GOTTA GO DO ON MONDAYS.
YOU'LL, YOU'LL MANAGE SETTING UP A REGULAR MEETING TIME.
YEAH, WE'LL SET THAT OFFLINE RIGHT NOW.
YOU AND I WILL FIGURE OUT WHEN WE'RE GONNA TALK SO I CAN HAND OUT THINGS.
SO WE'LL JUST LEAVE THE DATE TBD AND WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT.
SO ALL US IN FAVOR OF THE CREATION OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR MEMORIAL DAY BEING MYSELF AND JERRY.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST ON OUR REGULAR AGENDA FOR NOW.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE LAST PIECE.
UM, CAN I HAVE A MOTION ON NUMBER EIGHT? RECOMMENDATION TO CREATE AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR HR 59 45? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.
UM, WHAT, GINA WHAT DID YOU HAVE IN MIND FOR THIS? WELL, IN THE SAME WAY THAT WE WROTE, UM, I DON'T HAVE THE, UH, THE TEXT FROM THE LETTER, BUT IN THE SAME WAY THAT WE WORKED ON TWO LETTERS TO, TO CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND INCLUDED IN OUR NA REPORT TO CHANGE THE MEETING TIMES, I MEAN TO CHANGE THE COMPOSITION OF THE COMMISSION TO, UH, AT LARGE INSTEAD OF THE ONE PER COUNCIL DISTRICT.
'CAUSE IT'S SO, IT'S BEEN SO DIFFICULT TO GET QUORUM, ET CETERA.
UM, AND THE OTHER RECOMMENDATION WE MADE WAS TO SAY THAT THE VH A RESOLUTION, YOU KNOW YEAH.
SO IT WOULD BE THE SAME WITH, WITH THIS, IS THAT WE WOULD WRITE A LETTER SAYING WE, THE VETERANS COMMISSION SUPPORT HR 59 45 THAT WILL HONOR THE LAW 74 BY HAVING 'EM ON THE, UH, THE VIETNAM VETERANS MEMORIAL.
SHOULD WE WRITE IT FOR THE COUNCIL? AND IF WE PUT IT, YOU KNOW, WE PUT, THIS IS A QUESTION, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO THIS OR NOT.
SO INSTEAD OF US, AND AS YOU KNOW, WE DO IT AND THEN BECAUSE WE WANT THE, WE WANT THE CITY OF LONG BEACH TO SAY, HEY, WE SUPPORT THE FRANKIE EVANS 'CAUSE IT WAS OUT OF LONG BEACH BEING ADDED TO THE WALL.
BUT IS IT A RESOLUTION FROM US OR ARE WE WRITING A RESOLUTION THAT WE WOULD LIKE THE CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE OUT THEN FROM US? WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO WRITE RESOLUTIONS ON BEHALF OF COUNCIL.
WELL, WE WOULDN'T WRITE ON BEHALF OF THEM.
WE, WE'D HAND IT TO THEM AND LET THEM.
SO THE RULE OF THE PROCEDURE IS THAT YOU WOULD GIVE IT TO THE CITY MANAGER AND THEN THE CITY MANAGER REPORT TO THE COUNCIL AND THE COUNCIL WOULD DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANTED TO TAKE IT UP OR NOT.
SO, BUT WE HAVE TO DO OUR OWN AS WE HAVE BEFORE.
SO WHAT WE CAN DO, MAYBE THE THE ACT, JUST THE MEMORIAL DAY COMMITTEE CAN DO THAT.
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I DON'T THINK WE NEED A SEPARATE GROUP.WE CAN TASK, I THINK WE CAN TASK THE COMMITTEE WITH THAT MEMORIAL DAY COMMITTEE.
WE CAN TASK THE MEMORIAL DAY COMMITTEE TO DO THIS RATHER THAN HAVING A SEPARATE GROUP.
AND WE CAN DO LIKE WE DID LAST TIME.
'CAUSE I'M SURE, UM, HIS NAME'S NICK OVER AT MY COUNCIL OFFICE WILL WRITE IT UP FOR US IN THE PRETTY, IN THE, THE LANGUAGE OF THE RESOLUTION.
WE JUST HAVE TO GIVE HIM AN OUTLINE AND WE CAN ASK FRANKIE EVANS TO WRITE MOST OF IT
THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS, BUT, WELL, NO, NO, NO.
FRANKIE EVANS CAN GIVE US RAW GIVE GIVE GIVE US THE INFORMATION, GIVE US THE INFORMATION.
IT'S A LETTER COMING FROM THE COMMISSION.
NICHOLAS WILL REVIEW IT, BUT HE'LL NOT WRITE THE LETTER COURSE.
NO, I CAN ASSIST WITH THE LETTER.
BUT THE LETTER REALLY COMES FROM YOU AS THE COMMISSIONER.
ALL MY THINKING WAS SIMPLY THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT REALLY LOVE TO WRITE AND LOVE TO DIG INTO THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THIS.
THAT'S WHY I SAW AS POSSIBLY A SEPARATE WHY, WHY CAN'T, IF WE GIVE, JUST LIKE WE DID WITH OUR RESOLUTION LAST TIME, WE GIVE HIM THE OUTLINE OF WHAT WE'D LIKE.
HE TAKES IT IN THE RESOLUTION FORMAT THAT THE CITY USES AND PUTS IT TOGETHER FOR US AND GIVES IT BACK TO ME AND THEN I PUT IT FORWARD.
IT WOULD HAVE TO COME THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER.
SO AS
EXPLAIN, UH, THE PROCESS IS THAT YOU WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY MANAGER, WHATEVER YOU WOULD WANT IT TO BE.
AND THEN THEY WOULD FORWARD THAT TO THE COUNCIL AND THEN THE COUNCIL WOULD DECIDE IF THEY WANTED TO TAKE IT UP.
BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO VOTE ON IT HERE FIRST, CORRECT? YES.
JUST LIKE YOU VOTED ON THE, WE'RE GONNA, SO WHAT'S GONNA, WHAT'S, BUT IT WOULD GO TO THE CITY MANAGER.
RIGHT? SO I'M JUST SAYING BEFORE THAT IN OUR SIDE, IN OUR COURT, WE WOULD PUT TOGETHER THE, THE OUTLINE OF THE INFORMATION WE WANT.
I WOULD GET ASSISTANCE FROM THE CHIEF OF STAFF OF CD THREE 'CAUSE HE DOES THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS.
SO HE PUT IT INTO A PROPER FORMAT FOR ME, THEN I WOULD BRING IT TO OUR COMMISSION.
THE COMMISSION WOULD VOTE YES OR NO ON IT OR MAKE ANY MODIFICATIONS ON IT.
THEN IT WOULD GO TO THE CITY MANAGER.
IF THE, UH, AD HOC THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, THE WOULD BE DOING THAT.
WELL, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THE, THE MEMORIAL DAY COMMISSION CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT.
THEY, THAT'S IF YOU ALL AGREE TO THIS.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED A SEPARATE AD HOC COMMITTEE.
I THINK THE MEMORIAL DAY COMMISSION COULD TAKE THAT ON IT TASK.
BUT THAT HAS TO BE UP TO ALL OF YOU, WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
UM, AND I THINK YOU'RE SEEING THIS AS ONE OF THOSE PRETTY FANCY RESOLUTIONS.
WE IT'S JUST GONNA BE A TA TWO FOUR FROM TWO FOUR FROM NOW.
BUT THERE'S A, BUT IF THERE'S A, THERE'S LIKE A LANGUAGE IN A FORUM.
I KNOW, LIKE A FORMAT OF THESE THINGS THAT THEY USE WHEN YOU DO THE RESOLUTIONS.
WHEREAS, WHEREAS, WHEREAS, WHEREAS ALL THAT RIGHT.
BUT HE KNOWS HOW TO DO THAT WELL AND MAKE IT SOUND NICE.
IT WOULD JUST HAVE TO COME FROM THE CITY MANAGER.
HE COME DIRECTLY FROM THE COMMISSION TO THE COUNCIL.
IT CAN, IT'LL GO TO THE CITY MANAGER.
AND THIS IS EXACTLY THE PROCESS WE FOLLOWED IN THE SUMMER.
WE JUST DIDN OF THE CITY MANAGER DIDN'T EVER GET TO HIM.
THE CITY MANAGER ACTUALLY DID SEND OUR ANNUAL REPORT WITH THOSE TWO RESOLUTIONS IN IT TO COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR AND CCD.
SO I KNOW IT WENT OUT, BUT IT NEVER MOVED FORWARD AFTER THAT.
SO THEY DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO DO THAT.
I KNOW NICK TOLD ME IT'S LIKE HE SAID THERE'S A, AND I ALSO DIDN'T HAVE IT APPROVED BY MY, MY BUREAU MANAGER, THE HEAD OF HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
SO IT GOES THROUGH MULTIPLE LEVELS.
AND THAT'S WHY WE DID IT BEAUTIFULLY LAST SUMMER.
EVEN THOUGH IT TOOK, TOOK A, TOOK A MINUTE.
WELL THAT'S THE NICE THING OF HAVING HIM START.
WE, WE WERE GONNA START IN A MUCH BETTER POSITION.
IT'S GONNA START PROBABLY 90%.
AND THEN THEY'LL DO WHATEVER THEY DO FOR THE LAST 10%.
UM, I AM GOING TO MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT WE DO.
OH, WE'RE GONNA VOTE NO ON SOMETHING.
WE'RE THE, THE COMMITTEE AT THE MEMORIAL DAY COMMITTEE IS OKAY WITH TAKING ON.
YOU, YOU'RE JUST GONNA MAKE IT A TASK OF THE YEAH.
SOUNDS, MY OWN VIEW IS WE DON'T REALLY NEED IT.
SO EACH PERSON HAS THEIR OWN VOTE.
SO LET'S VOTE ON THIS OR WE COULD JUST VOTE NO ON NO, THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
WE'RE GONNA VOTE NO ON SOMETHING.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE KNOW HOW TO DO THIS.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF NUMBER EIGHT.
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NEW, ANOTHER AD HOC COMMITTEE ON HR 59 45.SAY HIGH OPPOSED NAY, NAY, NAY.
SO WE HAVE, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN OUR HISTORY, I THINK WE'VE
UM, NOW WE ARE UP TO, AND I'M JUST ACKNOWLEDGING FOR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
THERE WAS NO PUBLIC COMMENT, CORRECT? NO.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO ASK, WHAT IS AN AD HOC COMMITTEE? TEMPORARY? CAN I, CAN I ASK THAT? YEAH.
GENERALLY, THE LAST, THE NEXT PIECE IS WE HAVE OUR ANNUAL ELECTIONS FOR CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.
AND WE CAN START WITH DISCUSSION ON DO WE HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION AND ALL THAT? WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO WITH THIS? 'CAUSE IT'S NOT WRITTEN IN THAT FORMAT HERE.
SO FIRST WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL OPEN THE NOMINATIONS, UM, SINCE IT'S A SECTION HEADER, WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT OR TAKE A VOTE.
WHEN YOU OPEN THE NOMINATIONS, PEOPLE CAN FREELY NOMINATE WHOEVER THEY CHOOSE.
UM, WHOEVER IS NOMINATED CAN THEN MAKE A BRIEF STATEMENT ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD LIKE THE POSITION OR NOT, UM, OR THE REASONS WHY THEY SHOULD BE THE CHAIR OR THE VICE CHAIR.
AFTER THAT, WE CLOSE OUR NOMINATIONS AND THEN WE MOVE ON TO VICE CHAIR, WHICH IS THE SAME PROCEDURE.
UM, YOU GUYS ARE ABLE TO NOMINATE, WE MAKE STATEMENTS, WE CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS, AND THEN IT'S TYPICALLY, USUALLY ONLY ONE NOMINATION.
UM, SO IF THERE IS ONLY ONE NOMINATION, THEN WE WOULD JUST ACCEPT THAT PERSON IF THEY ACCEPTED THE ROLE.
IF THERE WAS MORE THAN ONE NOMINATION THAT WE WOULD GO INTO A VOTE.
I HAVE THE ELECTION SCRIPT HERE.
WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU LIKE THE SCRIPT? I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE IT PRINTED.
WELL, YOU'RE THE, YOU YOU SAY IT.
UH, FOR CHAIR NOMINATIONS ARE NOW OPEN.
I DECLARE THE NOMINATIONS OPEN FOR THE CHAIR OF THE VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMISSION.
EACH MEMBER MAY NOMINATE ONE PERSON FOR CHAIR, INCLUDING THEMSELVES.
THESE NOMINATIONS DO NOT REQUIRE A SECOND.
WE'LL MOVE, WE'LL JUST GO AROUND THE TABLE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A NOMINATION? KEN? KEN
YOU CAN SERVE TWICE, RIGHT? MM-HMM
THIS IS GONNA BE REALLY DIFFICULT.
I DECLARE THE NOMINATIONS CLOSED FOR CHAIR.
SO I NOW CALL FOR, FOR THE NOMINEE TO SPEAK.
BRIEFLY SHARE WHY YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE ELECTED CHAIR.
THIS SCRIPT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I HAD LAST YEAR.
UM, I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME THINGS IN MOTION THAT WE'VE BROUGHT UP SOME CHANGES LIKE THE AD HOC AND THE, THE THINGS LIKE THAT TO REALLY FIX SOME PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE HAD.
AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THEM THROUGH TO FRUITION TOO AND GET THIS PLACE FULL.
EVEN IF THERE'S JUST, LIKE WE SAID, THERE'S TWO FROM ONE GREAT.
JUST SOMEBODY WHO'S INTERESTED IN DOING THE WORK AND COMING TO THE MEETINGS AND HELPING US GET THINGS DONE SO WE'RE NOT SCRAMBLING FOR QUORUM LIKE WE WERE BEFORE.
WE'VE BEEN DOWN TO FOUR AND THREE AND
THAT WAS THE, THAT WAS WHEN IT WAST SO GOOD.
SO THAT'S IT FOR ME, BUT THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR CONFIDENCE.
I'M NOW GONNA CALL THE VOTE FOR THE NOMINEE.
WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? NO.
SO I'M GOING TO CONGRATULATE KEN ON THE DEAN CHAIR FOR THE SECOND CONSECUTIVE YEAR.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR ARE YOU GOOD? I'M GOOD.
I AM NOW GONNA OPEN THE FLOOR FOR NO NATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR
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AND THE VICE CHAIR HAS A PRETTY SIMPLE ROLE IN THAT, IS TO RUN THE MEETING WHEN THE CHAIR IS NOT AVAILABLE.ALRIGHT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO KEEP CONTINUE AS VICE CHAIR? SURE.
SO, UH, THERE BEING NO FURTHER NOMINATIONS.
I DECLARE THE NOMINATIONS CLOSE FOR VICE CHAIR.
I NOW CALLED FOR THE NOMINEE TO BRIEFLY SHARE WHY YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE COLLECTIVE VICE CHAIR.
WE'LL HEAR FROM ANTOINETTE AT KEN BLADE.
UM,
IT'S MY SECOND YEAR, SO I JUST WANNA CONTINUE HELPING OUT IN ANY WAY I CAN.
UH, WE AGAIN, UM, DON'T HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO I NOW CONGRATULATE THE CHAIR FOR THE SECOND CONSECUTIVE YEAR CHAIR AT, I THINK YOU MADE A FINE CHOICE.
I DIDN'T SEE A LOT OF ARM WRESTLING.
YEAH, THERE WAS A LOT LIGHTS GOING ON.
ARE WHERE'S, WHERE'S UH,
OKAY, I HAVE TWO ANNOUNCEMENTS AND PARDON ME FOR NOT FINDING THE SLIDES.
WAIT, DO YOU WANT TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT? PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DON'T NEED PUBLIC COMMENT 'CAUSE IT'S A SECTION INSTEAD OF AN ITEM.
GOT ANYTHING FOR US? NO, I HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I WE CAN WAIT UNTIL AFTERNOON.
UM, SO THE FIRST ANNOUNCEMENT IS THE VETERAN WOMAN CONNECT CONNECTION, CAMARADERIE, CONTINUED SERVICE SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 14TH, 1130 TO ONE AMERICAN LEGION POST 2 91.
HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO THE AMERICAN LEGION YACHT CLUB HUT IN NEWPORT BEACH? IF YOU HAVE NOT, I SUGGEST TO GET ON DOWN THERE BECAUSE THEY WILL TREAT YOU VERY NICELY.
THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST WELL APPOINTED AMERICAN LEGIONS AROUND.
SO THAT'S AN ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT THAT.
IT HAS AN RSVP, UH, TO GENEVIEVE THAT KIND OF GOT OFF, GOT CUT OFF ON, UH, THE PRINT ON PRINTER.
BUT I CAN JUST SEND THIS TO YOU AND I KNOW YOU'RE NOT A WOMAN, MOST OF YOU, SO YOU MIGHT NOT BE THERE.
BUT, UM, AND THEN THE NEXT ONE I HAVE, SORRY, I MAY NOT HAVE THIS ONE LINED UP ON A SLIDE, SO THAT'S OKAY.
IS THE, THE, IS THIS ONE THE VETERAN SOCIAL CONNECTION, WHICH IS THE LAST FRIDAY OF EVERY MONTH AT THE VA LONG BEACH.
AND IT IS, UM, WHERE EXACTLY IS IT? UM, OH, THE CANTEEN PATIO.
RIGHT BEHIND THE, RIGHT BEHIND THE CAFETERIA.
IT'S IN THAT BIG OPEN AREA BEHIND THE CAFETERIA.
SO, AND THIS IS A GREAT EVENT TO NETWORK WITH OTHER VETERANS AND SEE WHAT RESOURCES ARE OFFERED.
AND KEN AND I WENT LAST YEAR TO PROMOTE THE, UH, VETERANS BANNERS, UH, PROGRAM.
SO WE HAD A TABLE OF AND CARDS ABOUT, ABOUT IT AND DIRECT TO PEOPLE THE WEB TO THE WEBSITE.
AND IF YOU KNOW, SO IF YOU WANT JUST SHOW UP OR EVEN VOLUNTEER WHETHER YOU'RE ON THE BANNER COMMITTEE TO BRING THE POSTCARDS THERE ON ONE OF THOSE DAYS, THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC TOO.
SO, AND THAT'S WAS EFFECTIVE BECAUSE I THINK WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME OTHER PEOPLE ON THE BANNERS ARE SOME OF THE PEOPLE WE'VE MET THERE.
AND LITERALLY WE JUST WENT DOWN THE LINE AND HANDED OUT CARDS AND TOLD PEOPLE ABOUT IT.
AND NOW THAT THEY'VE SEEN THEM, AND I'LL SEND THE PICTURES TO YOU, GINA, BUT THEY HAVE ACTUALLY TAKEN OUR BANNER OF, UM, OH, I CAN'T THINK OF HIS NAME.
THEY, NAMESAKE OF THE VA, UM, TIM RUBIN.
THEY'VE TAKEN OUR BANNER AND THEY HAD ANOTHER ONE MADE AND IT'S PROMINENTLY DISPLAYED RIGHT AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE VA.
IT'S LIKE RIGHT AS YOU GO IN THE MAIN ENTRANCE, IT'S RIGHT THERE.
SO IT'S PRETTY COOL THAT THEY, THEY DID THAT.
SO WHAT, WHAT IS IT THAT THEY DO FOR TWO HOURS AT THIS FOOD? THEY EAT AND THEY TALK AND THEY, THEY TELL WAR STORIES.
OH, THERE'S LIKE SPEAKERS AND STUFF.
NO, BUT IMAGINE THE RESOURCES FAIR WE HAD FOR VETERANS DAY.
IF YOU, IF YOU HAVEN'T REGISTERED WITH THE VA OR YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SPECIFIC VA SERVICES, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALSO ALL OF THE VSSO, MOST OF THE BIG VSOS SHOW UP.
SOME DIFFERENT SOCIAL GROUPS SHOW UP AND HAVE TABLES AND GIVEAWAYS AND THERE'S BREAKFAST.
THEY, THEY BRING COFFEE AND EGGS AND STUFF AND FEED EVERYBODY.
THAT'S THE BIG THING IS EVERYBODY'S COMING FOR THE FREE BREAKFAST.
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WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON AN ANNOUNCEMENT SO YOU GUYS CAN TALK.
ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM AROUND THE TABLE? OH, I, I'D JUST LIKE TO TALK TO THE, UH, THE BANNER COMMITTEE.
IF I COULD ASK YOU GUYS TO DRIVE BY SOME BANNERS BETWEEN NOW AND FRIDAY.
TO ME IT SEEMS LIKE THE NAME SHOULD BE IN A DARKER COLOR.
WHEN I DRIVE DOWN THE STREET, I CAN'T READ THE NAMES OF THE VETERANS BECAUSE THEY'RE IN YELLOW.
IF THE, IF THE NAMES WERE A DARKER COLOR, LIKE BLACK, THEN I THINK RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, DRIVING DOWN THE STREET YOU COULD ACTUALLY READ THE NAMES.
YOU CAN'T, NOW YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO STOP, YOU KNOW? GOT IT.
YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE 'EM, IT MIGHT, AS MIGHT AS WELL BE.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS CAN DO IS RE YEAH, RELOAD THE ZOMBIE.
THAT'S JUST WHY I WAS ASKING THE, THE BANNER'S COMMISSION.
IF THEY COULD, IF, IF THEY DRIVE BY AND IF THEY THINK THE SAME WAY I DO, THEN MAYBE WE COULD CHANGE IT THAT'S A GOOD, GOOD IDEA.
AND TRY TO COMPARE IT TO THE ONES BY THE HIGH SCHOOLS AND SEE.
'CAUSE I KNOW WHEN I PASS THOSE OH, YOU CAN READ THE NAMES I, WE CAN READ 'EM CLEARLY.
GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT AND SEE WHAT THE COLOR SCHEME IS THERE.
AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING TO GO WITH.
YOU SHOULD LOOK AT THEM ANYWAYS.
WE'RE HAVING A DISCUSSION ON 'EM, NOT SO.
WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL CLOSE THE DOOR.
WE'LL WE'LL ADJOURN THE MEETING AND THEN WE CAN HAVE ALL THE DISCUSSIONS WE WANT.
SO I DECLARE A MEETING ADJOURNED AT GOOD MEETING, I THINK THIS 6 0 5 RECORD FOR GETTING OUT ON TIME.
WE'RE OFF THE CLOCK RECORDING OFF FIRST.