* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. AN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE [00:00:01] MEETING TO ORDER. TODAY IS THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 5TH, AND WE'RE LOCATED IN THE EXECUTIVE CONFERENCE ROOM AT THE ALAMEDAS BAY, UH, MARINA, OFFICE 2 0 5 MARINA DRIVE. I THINK WE WILL START OUT WITH A CALL TO ORDER AS WE DID, AND NOW WE'LL GO ON, UM, WITH THE ROLL CALL. UH, BRIAN? YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER MCCRAY? I AM HERE. COMMISSIONER MORENO. I AM HERE. COMMISSIONER MURRAY HERE. YOU HAVE A FORUM. THANK YOU, SIR. UM, I THINK I'D LIKE TO MAKE A SLIGHT DEVIATION AND THE REGULAR AGENDA, AND LET'S MOVE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT TO THE TOP OF THE THERE. UM, AND AS WE ALL RECALL UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT WITH THE BROWN ACT, WE CAN HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. UM, WE CAN ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE HEARD IT, BUT WE REALLY CAN'T RESPOND OR ANSWER IN ANY WAY. UH, SO I'M GONNA OPEN RIGHT NOW OUR MEETING TO PUBLIC COMMENT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT. UM, FIRST I WOULD LIKE, SO, UH, MY BASIC SUBJECT IS, UM, THE, UH, RECENT, UH, PROPOSAL THAT WAS APPROVED RECOMMENDATION. IT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY TO, UM, USE MARINA FUNDS TO FINANCE PART OF THE POOL. AND, UM, I WANT TO JUST READ TO YOU A, I REACHED OUT TO NEED MY GLASSES. UM, I REACHED OUT TO WHIT LAIR, UM, FROM DANKO KA COURT, WHATEVER IT'S CALLED, UM, TO, UH, TO GET HIS UNDERSTANDING OF THE SITUATION. UM, AND HE SENT, HE CAN'T BE HERE TODAY, BUT HE SENT THE FOLLOWING THAT, UM, HE ENCOURAGED, UH, ME TO READ. SO IT'S RIGHT HERE SOMEWHERE. OKAY. OKAY. HI, JOAN. THIS WAS A SHOCK TO ME IN MY TENANTS ALONG MARINA DRIVE. I FOUND OUT IN THE LONG BEACH POST ARTICLE, YOU WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THEY MIGHT HAVE GIVEN A HEADS UP TO THE LARGEST GROUND LEASEE PER TOM'S MEMO. THE CITY WILL BEGIN THE PUBLIC PROCESS RELATED TO THE EFFORTS. HOWEVER, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF PARKING MANAGEMENT WILL REQUIRE A REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE COASTAL COMMISSION. I HAVE MADE MY FEELINGS CLEAR WITH CHRISTINA DUGAN AND HAVE ASKED FOR A MARINA DRIVE SHAREHOLDERS MEETING. I AM MEETING WITH HER ON FEBRUARY 26TH AND WILL CONTINUE TO PRESS FOR THAT WITH ALL THE OPPOSITION LAST TIME WITH MAC MARINA DRIVE, TENANTS, BOAT OWNERS, ET CETERA. IT'S TIME TO RALLY THE TROOPS. AGAIN, AS YOU NOTICED, IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THE CITY EVER UPDATED THE INSUFFICIENT PARKING STUDY FROM LAST TIME. OR IF THEY HAVE, THEY HAVEN'T PRESENTED IT TO ME OR ANY OF OUR TENANTS. IN ADDITION, THERE ARE NO DETAILS AS TO RATES, TIMES OF ENFORCEMENT, LEASE RESTRICTIONS, EFFECTS ON TENANTS, BOAT OWNERS AND THEIR EMPLOYEES AND CLIENTS. UM, VALET PARKING OR DEMAND SUPPLY ANALYSIS AND WHY IF IMPLEMENTED THE FUNDS DON'T STAY IN THE BASIN FOR UPGRADES AND IMPROVEMENTS. REMEMBER, THEY WERE PROMISING THAT LAST TIME, AS I RECALL, IN ESSENCE, TO INSTALL METERS ALONG MARINA DRIVE TO PAY FOR THE BELMONT POOL IS ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL. SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS, AND THAT TIME WE COULD HAVE HAD THESE METERS IN AND WE COULD HAVE PROTECTED OUR PARKING LOT, BUT WE CAN'T SEEM TO GET BEYOND THIS. AND I THINK THE CITY HAS REALLY SHOWN A LACK OF RESPECT, UM, TO THE MAC TO THE BOAT OWNERS, EVEN I THINK TO THE MARINA IN SOME DEGREE, BECAUSE, UM, THEY HAVE NOT CHOSEN TO REACH OUT TO US AND UPDATE US. WE, WE, THE, THE MAC MEMO FROM 2020 SAID, YOU KNOW, WE, THIS WAS A FALL FAILED STUDY, FLAWED STUDY, AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING FUTURE PRESENTATIONS. WELL, ONE THAT WAS NEVER EVEN ACKNOWLEDGED. AND TWO, THERE'S NEVER BEEN A FUTURE PRESENTATION. THEY COULD, I'M SURE THAT PUBLIC WORKS COULD SIT DOWN WITH ON THE BACK OF AN ENVELOPE, EXPLAIN THE, THE ME THE METRICS OF THE PARKING LOT. AND THAT'S NEVER BEEN EXPLAINED. AND YET THEY CONTINUE TO PUSH AND PUSH AND PUSH AND IT'S THE, THE VALUE PROPOSITION IS THE CITY WINS AND THE MARINA LOSES. AND NOT ONLY DOES THE MARINA LOSE BECAUSE THEY HAVE PARKING LOTS, BUT THEY AREN'T, THERE ISN'T A WILLINGNESS TO SHARE ANY OF THOSE REVENUES. AND NOT ONLY DO WE NOW NOT HAVE A FREE PARKING LOT, OUR VALUE PROPOSITION ALSO CHANGES. YOU KNOW, WHAT ABOUT BOAT [00:05:01] OWNER GUESTS? WHAT ABOUT THE, UM, MERCHANTS WHO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE TENANTS WHO HAVE, UH, PATRONS PARKING IN THEIR PARKING LOT, NOW THEY HAVE TO PAY. THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY. AND NOT ONLY ARE THEY GONNA TAKE OUR MONEY, BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA GIVE US ANYTHING. IT'S JUST THE WRONG VALUE PROPOSITION. BUT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT. RIGHT. ALLS WE KNOW IS THEY WANT TO TAKE THE MONEY AND PUT IT IN HIGHLANDS. WELL, SO THEY ACCOMPLISHED THAT BY 2025, YOU KNOW, WITH THE BOND ISSUE. OKAY. WE, WE HEAR YOU JOAN. YES. SO THAT YOUR SUMMARY, SO MY SUMMARY IS COULD WE PLEASE GET THIS OUT IN THE PUBLIC? COULD WE GET AN ANSWER FROM, FROM THE CITY BEFORE THEY MAKE ANOTHER DECISION? SINCE THE CITY COUNCIL HAS TO VOTE ON THIS IN JUNE, HAVING A, A MEETING, A PRESENTATION TO US, TO ALL OF US, TO YOU, TO US IS IN SPRING. TO ME, THAT'S MAY, APRIL, MAY, APRIL, JUNE, APRIL, MAY, JUNE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS NOT SOON ENOUGH. IT NEEDS TO BE NOW. THEY NEED, AND WE NEED A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT. WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO PARKING TO THE METERS WE UNDER. WE'RE THE ONES WHO SUFFER. RIGHT? WE GET THAT. WE GET THAT THERE'S MONEY. WE JUST WANT A CONVERSATION. WE WANT THEM TO EXPLAIN. AND WE WANT TO HAVE A, A VALUE PROPOSITION THAT WORKS FOR THE MARINA AND FOR THE CITY, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY SEE VALUE IN THE MARINA. SO THEY OUGHT TO RESPECT THE MARINA. AND IT'S, SO WE HEAR YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND , AND I'M SURE TODD IS ITCHING TO TELL YOU THINGS, BUT HE'S, UM, UH, WE'RE ALL BEHAVING UNDER OUR BROWN ACTS. OH. UM, AND AS YOU KNOW, THE GENERAL PUBLIC DOES HAVE OTHER MECHANISMS TO COMMUNICATE TO US AND TO COMMUNICATE TO THE CITY COUNCIL. AND IF YOU WANNA FORWARD A COPY OF THAT LETTER TO TAMLIN TO GO WITHIN THE MAC PACKET SO THAT IT'S GONE TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS, UM, IN A FORMAT THAT THEN THE GENERAL PUBLIC HAS ACCESS TO AS WELL. UM, THAT'S THE, THE SMARTEST PROCESS BECAUSE THE MEDIA HAS ACCESS TO THOSE AS WELL. RIGHT. WELL, AND WE DID FORWARD, WE DID SEND ONE, UH, EMAIL AND I'M ASSUMING THAT'S PART OF THE, AND IF YOU CAN SPECIFICALLY REQUEST THAT IT BE INCLUDED WITHIN THE COMMISSIONER PACKET OR, AND NOW IT'S CLEAR ON THIS ONE. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC? YEAH, SO THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO UPDATE, 'CAUSE I, I THINK NOT IN THE ROOM, WHAT, FIVE YEARS AGO WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT BRIAN. YOU'RE THE NEW GUY. ALRIGHT, SO THE OTHER DIFFERENCE, THIS IS A QUICK STUDY . THE OTHER DIFFERENCE IS, YOU KNOW, THE, WHEN WE DID WE'RE LAST IN THIS ROOM, I HAD ONE OBJECTIVE AND THAT WAS TO KICK THIS CAN DOWN THE ROAD AS FAR AS POSSIBLE. BUT NOW WITH THOSE BUILDINGS GOING UP ACROSS THE STREET, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE FIGURE OUT THE DETAILS OF HOW THIS IS GONNA WORK. AND YOU COULD BACK AWAY A LITTLE BIT, IF WE REPRESENT THE BOAT OWNERS, OUR NEEDS ARE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. ACTUALLY. I KNOW WHAT WE EXPECT IS PROTECT THE BOAT OWNERS AND THEIR GUESTS SO THEY HAVE PARKING WITHOUT PAYING FOR IT 'CAUSE THEY ARE PAYING FOR IT. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, IF YOU'RE WIT, WIT HAS GOT THE LEAST RESPONSIBILITY FOR EVERY BUSINESS IN THE MARINA. AND THE CITY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE FORETHOUGHT TO SIT AND TALK WITH HIM ABOUT SOME OF THE OBSTACLES THAT HE, THAT HE, HIS CLIENTS, HIS CUSTOMERS, THE CITY CUSTOMERS WHO ARE PAYING GOOD MONEY IN SOME CASES HAVE DIFFERENT DETAILED ARRANGEMENTS WITH THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT BUILDING WAS ACTUALLY LEASED OUT OR THAT BUILDING WAS REALLY LEASED OUT. OR THE FUEL DOCK IS, YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS DOING A WONDERFUL JOB OF GETTING THESE BUILDINGS FULL UP AND GENERATING REVENUE OF THEM. AND THEN THEY'RE JUST, THIS IS A REALLY COMPLICATED THING. AND I DON'T, I'M, I'M NOT SMART ENOUGH TO FIGURE OUT HOW THAT, HOW ALL OF THESE BALLS IN THE AIR ARE GONNA WORK. UH, UH, I THINK A LOT OF YOUR POINTS ARE VALID. AND ONCE AGAIN, I STRONGLY SUGGEST PUTTING IT IN WRITING AND HAVE IT INCLUDED IN THAT PACKET. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THAT? SO LET'S MOVE FORWARD TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA. UM, ITEM NUMBER ONE IS A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING. SO MOVED. SECOND. SECOND. WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, ANY ADDITIONS TO CORRECTIONS? TO THOSE MINUTES? I'LL APPROVE. AYE AYE. AYE. UM, MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO. UH, A RECOMMENDATION TO REVIEW OUR AGENDA ITEMS FOR THE NEXT MEETING. SO MOVED SECOND. OKAY. ALRIGHT, LET'S PROCEED ONTO THAT. AND THAT'S THE SECOND PAGE OF OUR PACKET. AND, UH, THE REGULAR AGENDA'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. UM, WE HAVE, UM, A COUPLE OF UNIQUE PRESENTATIONS. ONE REGARDING THE WIRELESS, ONE ON THE STATUS OF SOME PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS. UM, AND I KNOW THERE WERE SOME OTHER ITEMS THAT WE REQUESTED [00:10:01] THAT STAFF, UM, PURSUED THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ON OUR AGENDA. UM, BUT THE CONCERNED PARTIES FELT THAT IT WAS PREMATURE. UH, LET'S START FIRST WITH THAT ITEM NUMBER TWO ON THE VERIZON OF BRIAN OR TODD. DO YOU HAVE A REPORT ON THAT? I HAVE NOT. I OH, OKAY. UM, SO, UH, VERIZON WIRELESS IS COMING INTO, UH, UH, PRESENT ON TWO LOCATIONS. ONE OVER IN THE ALAMEDOS BEACH LOT. AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS IN OUR, UH, DRY, DRY LAND STORAGE YARD AND, UH, IMPOUND YARD. UM, WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IS, UH, UH, UPGRADE THEIR CELL CAPACITY IN AND AROUND THE OLYMPIC, UH, VENUES, UH, TO BETTER SUPPORT THE INFLUX OF, UH, WHAT'S GOING TO BE MASS USE, CELLULAR USE. UM, SO THEY'LL, THEY'LL COME PRESENT. THIS IS A, UH, BEGINNING PHASE. IT'S A PRESENTATION TO YOU. UH, THEY WILL TAKE THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH OUR, OUR REAL ESTATE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT GROUP AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, AND GO FROM THERE. CAN I ASK MADAM CHAIR, UM, ARE THEY A PARTNER WITH THE OLYMPICS? I'M NOT CERTAIN. I WOULD ASK THAT YOU GET WITH THE OLYMPIC COMMITTEE AND MAKE SURE THAT OH YEAH, THAT'S, THAT IT'S BEFORE THEY EVEN COME THAT THEY NEED TO, I, I THINK THAT'S BEEN VETTED BY THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PEOPLE WITHIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THEY'RE BEING VERY SENSITIVE TO THOSE CORPORATE SPONSORS AND POTENTIAL CORPORATE SPONSORS. WELL, THIS IS, THIS ISN'T, IT'S NOT GONNA BE, IT'S NOT GONNA BE LIKE A SPONSOR. IT'S JUST GONNA BE A SALES. IT'S YOUR OWN SALES. I KNOW, BUT I MEAN, AT T IS A BIG, A BIG, UH, UH, LONG BEACH, UH, GROUP. I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT A NUMBER OF THINGS IS, IS VERIZON, IS AT AND T ALLOWED TO PUT UP THEIRS TOO? CAN THEY DO IT? I MEAN, THEY CAN APPLY. THEY CAN, THEY CAN COME AND WORK WITH THE CITY TO ADDRESS, I WOULD IMAGINE. I DON'T, I'M NOT IN OUR TECHNOLOGY AND INNOVATION. I, I UNDERSTAND. DOES THIS HAVE TO GO TO COASTAL COMMISSION AT ALL? SINCE IT IS ON THE, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S STARTING IN OUR PLANNING, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PLANNING GROUP. OKAY. UH, THERE, AND THEN THEY'LL, THEY'LL DECIDE NEXT STEPS. OKAY. BUT I BELIEVE THAT AREAS THAT THEY ARE GOING ARE NOT IN THE COASTAL PERMIT. THEY'RE IN THE HIGHLANDS, BUT, UH, THEY'RE IN, UH, THEY'RE IN THE COASTAL ZONE, BUT THEY'RE NOT IN THE COASTAL COMMISSION PERMIT AREAS. THEY'RE IN, UH, THE AREAS THAT ARE LOCAL COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT. SO FIRST IT GOES THROUGH CITY APPROVAL. AND I BELIEVE, I'D HAVE TO CHECK THAT MAYBE IN THE APPEALABLE SPACE. SO IF WE CAN HOLD OUR QUESTIONS FOR THEM WHEN THEY, THEY COME, I MEAN, THEY'RE GONNA KNOW MORE. YEAH. SO. GREAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, OR ANYTHING WE WANT IN COVERED IN THAT PRESENTATION SO THAT TODD COULD LET THEM KNOW? NOW WE CAN ADVANCE. OKAY. MOVING ON TO THE PROPOSED AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE. UM, AND UPDATE ON, UH, DAVIES'S LAUNCH RAMP. AND WE NEED OUR, A BALLPARK. SO, DAVIES, UH, THERE WAS THE, THE REBID, UM, THROUGH THE VALUE LIKE, YOU KNOW, VALUE ENGINEERING, UM, IT DID COME BACK WITHIN, WITHIN BUDGET. UM, THANK GOODNESS. UH, SO WE WILL BE MOVING FORWARD WITH, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION, UH, IN PREP LATER THIS YEAR. IT, IT LOOKED LIKE THE ONE BIDDER WAS DISQUALIFIED. DO YOU HAVE ANY THAT WOULD BE, THAT'D BE SOMETHING WE'D HAVE TO TALK TO PUBLIC WORKS ABOUT. UH, USUALLY WHAT THEY DO IS THEY GET THE BIDS, THEY VET THE BIDS, AND YOU KNOW, ANY DISQUALIFICATION STUFF LIKE THAT IS CONFIDENTIAL IN THE BID PROCESS. BUT IT, IT POSTED IT RIGHT AWAY WITH THAT DISQUALIFICATION, WHICH THERE MAY BE SOMETHING THEY CAN SPEAK TO ON THAT POSSIBLY. AND THEN IT, UM, AND THEN THE LOW BIDDER AND A LITTLE BIT, UM, ABOUT WHERE THEIR EXPERIENCE LEVEL IS, IS I, I JUST FEEL SUCH AN OWNER OF THAT DAVIES LAUNCH RAMP. UM, AND THEN HOW THAT'S WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE BRIDGE REDO IS, IS PUBLIC WORK SORT OF TAKEN OVER MAC? NO. THEY JUST HAVE SO MANY PROJECTS. I KNOW, BUT VERY FEW OF THEM COME TO US. WELL, AND IT'S, IT'S IN THE, IT'S IN THE, IT'S IN OUR AREA. I MEAN, I, I, I, YOU, DOUG. IT DID. AND I THINK WE WERE VERY MUCH A PART OF IT. I THINK WHEN WE GOT THE FUNDING FROM, UM, ABA THAT IT WAS A TODD WHO GAVE THE TOUR, TODD, THAT MADE THE PRESENTATION, [00:15:01] WALKED THROUGH WITH THEM, SECURED THAT FUNDING BECAUSE OF HIS KNOWLEDGE OF THE AREA. UM, I THINK WE'VE BEEN VERY MUCH A PART OF IT AS A MARINE DEPARTMENT AND MAYBE WE HAVEN'T HEARD ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON IN EACH OF THOSE STEPS. UM, BUT IT, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S GONE ON. MAYBE THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT'S, AND I THINK THAT THERE, THAT RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN ALL OF OUR PROJECTS HERE AND PUBLIC WORKS, UM, IS SOMETHING OF GREAT INTEREST TO US. YES. UM, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR, OUR TOP ITEMS WE WERE LOOKING FOR ON THE BONDS. UH, AND AT ONE POINT, UM, A PREVIOUS, UH, MARINE BUREAU MANAGER HAD SUGGESTED TO PUBLIC WORKS, GEE, YOU COULD ASSIGN ONE OF YOUR PROJECT MANAGERS FULL TIME TO THE MARINE DEPARTMENT AND WE COULD FUND IT OUT OF OUR BUDGET. AND THEN THAT PERSON COULD JUST FOCUS ON THE BIDS THAT WE HAVE OF APPROVED WORK THAT WE NEED TO START EXPEDITING. UM, AND THAT WAS UNSUCCESSFUL WITH PUBLIC WORKS. BUT MAYBE WE SHOULD MAKE A PASS AT THAT. AGAIN, WE HAVE A NEW, WE HAVE A NEW PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR RIGHT NOW WITH JOSH THERE. AND YEAH, IT JUST, I I, I LOOK AT THE DOG PARK AND THINGS AND I KNOW WHEN ROSIE'S OR WHEN THEY INITIALLY PUT A DOG PARK IN, BOY THAT WAS, THAT WAS HEATED 'CAUSE EVERYBODY KEPT THINKING, DOG POOP. DOG POOP, DOG POOP. AND THE THE OWNERS OF THOSE THINGS WOULD COME DOWN. WHAT'S GOING ON? WELL, WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANY, IT'S REALLY, CITY COUNCIL BASICALLY SAYS WE WANT IT, LET'S GO WITH IT. AND IT DIDN'T, UH, I DON'T KNOW, DID THE PUBLIC REALLY HAVE A PLACE TO STAY OR, OR A PLACE TO SAY, UH, THEIR FEELINGS ON IT OTHER THAN JUST PUSHING IT THROUGH CITY COUNCIL? GREAT. WE GOT ANOTHER DOG BEACH. UM, I LOVE DOG BEACHES. MY DOG LOVES COMING DOWN THE BEACH, SO DON'T GET ME WRONG. BUT THERE'S PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE EVERY DAY THAT HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT EVERY DAY. AND I WOULD THINK ANYTHING THAT'S ON THE BEACH WOULD COME TO THAT. COME TO US, ADAM CHAIR. I THINK AN AREA WHERE WE REALLY NEED TO IMPROVE AS A CITY IS PUBLIC COMMENT ON THINGS. YEAH. AND I THINK WE'VE WORKED ON IT AS A COMMISSION. UM, BUT A LOT OF THINGS JUST GO STRAIGHT THROUGH. UM, AND I THINK WE SAW SOME OF THAT STEAM BEING RELEASED. UM, BUT WHEN THE ONE VENDOR FROM MONTY'S DOG BEACH, WE WERE JUST THERE TO HEAR HAPPILY HOW HE WAS PROGRESSING. AND THERE WAS A LOT OF, UM, PENT UP CONVERSATION THAT OUR COMMUNITY WANTED TO SHARE THAT SOMEHOW WE DIDN'T CAPTURE EARLIER IN THE PROCESS. SO IT'S, IT'S MEETINGS LIKE THE OURS THAT ARE IMPORTANT. AND I THINK EVEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT WE HEARD TODAY SHOWS THAT WE'RE NOT GIVING PEOPLE ENOUGH OF A CHANCE TO SPEAK THEIR MIND. AND IF THE MARINE DEPARTMENT, TODD, IF YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS, YOU GUYS KEEP US TRULY, THE INPUT IS GREAT AT THE MEETINGS. MAYBE IT JUST GOES DELVE IN A LITTLE BIT DEEPER, UH, WHEN THEY'RE DOING THEIR PRESENTATIONS. AND DID, YOU KNOW, UH, IT JUST MAKES US AWARE. 'CAUSE IT'S, I'M 66 GONNA BE 67. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT I ATE LAST NIGHT FOR DINNER. SO WHEN I LOOK AT THINGS, WHEN SOMEBODY TELLS ME SOMETHING, IT REALLY NEEDS TO PUT IN WHEN THERE'S A PRESENTATION ON IT, I REMEMBER. BUT IF IT'S JUST PART OF A, A MANAGER'S, HEY, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM. NOT ALWAYS REMEMBERING EVERYTHING THAT THEY STATE. BUT WHEN IT'S A PRESENTATION, WE'RE PRETTY GOOD AT REMEMBERING THE PRESENTATIONS. SO I NEED TO REMIND THE EXECUTIVE TEAM IS WE DO HAVE PUBLIC WORKS, UH, TITLES, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, UH, THEY COME QUARTERLY AND THEY PRESENT ON THEIR, THEIR PROJECTS. NOW, ARE ALL THE PROJECTS INCLUDED? NO, BECAUSE SOME ARE STILL, YOU KNOW, GESTATING TO, SO TO SPEAK. RIGHT. BUT OUR COMMISSION GETS QUARTERLY UPDATES ON PROJECTS. DAVEY'S LAUNCH RAMP HAS BEEN ON THOSE QUARTERLY UPDATES FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS. I, I, BELMONT, BELMONT POOL HAS BEEN ON COURSE IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS. AND I'VE BEEN TRADITIONALLY, UM, DISAPPOINTED WITH THOSE STATUS REPORTS THAT THEY'RE, UH, NOTHING MORE THAN IF YOU GOOGLE IT. MM-HMM . THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING THAT'S A, A THOUGHT OR WHERE THERE WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE GOING TO BE. I THINK WE'RE DROPPING THE BALL A LOT ON THAT. AND THAT, AND THE COMMISSION IS, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE A MECHANISM FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HEAR ABOUT THINGS. AND WE'RE NOT, WE'RE WE'RE GETTING WHAT'S ON POWERPOINT SLIDES POSTED 18 MONTHS AGO. AND THE THE, I GET CALLS TOO. SO I GET MORE CALLS AND IT'S MADE ME MORE AWARE. I'M GOING, WHAT, WHAT? AND THEN I MAKE PHONE CALLS JUST MYSELF AS A CITIZEN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, TO ASK. UH, BUT IT, IT'S AMAZING THE INFORMATION THAT JUST SORT OF HITS A WALL, [00:20:01] UM, WELL, MAYBE THEY DON'T NEED TO KNOW. I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT THEY DO, BUT I'M JUST SAYING MAYBE THEY DON'T NEED TO KNOW. WE NEED TO GET THIS THROUGH. UM, IT, IT'S JUST MORE COMMUNICATE. WE'RE AN ADVISORY COUNCIL. I MEAN, WE'RE AN ADVISORY COUNCIL AND THE CITY COMES TO US AND THE MEMBERS COME TO US AND THE BONE OWNERS COME TO US AND THEY TALK TO US THROUGHOUT THE DAY, YOU KNOW, WALKING THE DOCKS. I STILL WALK THE DOCKS AND IT'S FUN TO BE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, I'M YOUR COMMISSIONER. AND THEY GOES, OH, WHEN ARE YOU GONNA BE BACK HERE AT THE YACHT CLUB? YOU KNOW, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. I SAID, SOON, HOPEFULLY, WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. BUT IT'S, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE GET ASKED ALL THE TIME. AND OF COURSE, WHAT DO I DO? CALL TODD . BUT THAT'S WHAT I DO. BECAUSE THAT'S WHO YOU, I MEAN, I CAN'T DO ANYTHING. YEAH. YOU KNOW, WE, WE CALLED ON THE . I CALLED NO, DON'T. OKAY. ANYWAYS, I CALLED TODD ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND HE GOES, HEY, CAN YOU HAVE THE OTHER PEOPLE CALL ME BRUCE? UH, I'M GLAD YOU'RE THERE, BUT YOU'RE REALLY NOT IN THE POINT TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT. BUT THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I GET. BUT YOU CONNECT PEOPLE. YES. AND THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT IS A CRITICAL MISSION OF THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION, IS CONNECT THE PUBLIC TO THE PROPER AVENUES OF INFORMATION GATHERING AND TO GET THINGS DONE. SO YES, THERE ARE ELEMENTS AND TIMES WHERE I WISH I COULD GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION. UH, I HAVE TO BE VERY HONEST RIGHT NOW IS WE ARE PARKS, RECREATION, AND MARINE. RIGHT. WE ARE NOT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT COORDINATORS FOR THE CITY. WE HAVE A LOT OF INPUT, WE HAVE A LOT OF, OF PARTNERSHIP AND COORDINATION AND COLLABORATION. BUT THE, THE DRIVING FORCE OF OUR, UH, CAPITAL PROJECTS IS RIGHTFULLY SO WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. AND IT IS, IT IS IN THEIR LINE OF, OF APPROVALS AS TO COMMUNITY INFORMATION. AND WE'LL MAKE REQUESTS. ABSOLUTELY. WE WANT TO GIVE YOU AS MUCH INFORMATION AND AS MUCH LEAD TIME FOR THAT INFORMATION ON PROJECTS. BUT A LOT OF TIMES IS THAT INFORMATION'S NOT READY YET. IT'S NOT READY FOR PUBLIC DISTRIBUTION. AND SO WHEN THEY DO COME TO YOU, IT'S WHEN THEY ARE READY AND WHEN THEY HAVE A DEVELOPED SENSE OF, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. BUT MANY TIMES THEN IT'S TOO LATE AND THEY, THEY'RE NOT GETTING SOME ESSENTIAL INPUT. YES, I AGREE WITH YOU. TELL ME FROM A STANDPOINT, UM, CAN THE EXECUTIVE MAC DO A TWO FROM LETTER THAT'S REALLY AT YOUR DISCRETION? I WOULD ADVISE OH, OH, OH. BUT IF I MADE A MOTION RIGHT NOW TO START SOMETHING ON THAT, IT, IT MAY DIE IN DISCUSSION, BUT AT LEAST IT CAN GET US GOING. I'LL, I'LL MAKE IT A MOTION AND MAYBE IT'LL DIE DURING DISCUSSION. LET'S GO FROM THERE. OKAY. OKAY. UH, I MOVE THAT THE, UH, EXECUTIVE MAC COMMITTEE OH. PREPARE A TWO FROM LETTER TO CITY COUNCIL, UM, MAKING A FORMAL REQUEST FOR A FULL-TIME PROJECT MANAGER TO BE ASSIGNED TO THE MARINE BUREAU FROM PUBLIC WORKS. SECOND. OKAY. NOW WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE. NOW WE CAN DISCUSS . THAT THAT WAS OH, I DID NOT KNOW THAT WAS GONNA BE, THAT WAS GONNA BE THE, THE INTENT OF THAT. WELL, WELL, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD, IF WE HAD SOMEONE ASSIGNED TO OUR PROJECTS, THEN WE WOULD HAVE A GO-TO PERSON WITHIN PUBLIC WORKS THAT OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND OUR STAFF COULD LOOK TO. WHOSE BUDGET DOES IT COME OUT OF THOUGH? YEAH. ARE YOU SAYING IT'S COMING OUT OF PUBLIC WORKS BUDGET OR ARE WE GONNA HAVE TO PUT THIS PERSON ON OUR PAYROLL? WELL, I THINK IF, IF SOMEBODY'S WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TIED TO MARINE, UM, I AGREE WITH THE CHAIRWOMAN, THIS COULD ONLY BENEFIT PUBLIC WORKS IS TO HAVE SOMEONE THERE THAT GETS THE INFORMATION, THAT HAS THE INFORMATION, THAT IS AWARE AND PUSHES THE NEEDS OF US FORWARD BECAUSE IT CHANGES ALL. WELL, I'M SEEING OUR PROJECTS WITHIN OUR AREA, LIKE THE ONES THAT WERE SO IMPORTANT TO THE BOAT OWNERS, THE BATHROOMS, IF WE'D HAVE DONE THOSE WAY BACK WHEN THEY WERE APPROVED, THEY WOULD'VE BEEN SUBSTANTIALLY LESS MONEY. AND I THINK HAVING SOMEBODY FOCUSED ON OUR PROJECTS IS GONNA BE A COST SAVINGS IN THE LONG RUN. NO. DO WE NEED A FULL-TIME OR MAYBE JUST A PART-TIME PERSON. HAVE YOU SEEN THE LIST OF PROJECTS WITHIN THIS FOOTPRINT? HAVE YOU SEEN WHAT BRIAN AND TODD DO ON A DAILY BASIS? THE NUMBER OF THINGS THEY MEET WITH AND HOW THEY'RE SUPPORTING THOSE? IT'S AMAZING. IT REALLY IS. I MEAN, I'VE ONLY BEEN OUT HERE A COUPLE TIMES WITH YOU ALL AND I'M [00:25:01] HAPPY I'M RETIRED, . 'CAUSE UH, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY REALLY REALIZES WHAT YOUR TEAM DOES. UM, ALL OF 'EM, THEY'RE NONSTOP. NONSTOP. UM, AND THERE'S SO MANY THINGS TO LOOK AT. JUST GOING OUT ON THE BOAT WITH YOU AND LOOKING AT THINGS. I'M GOING AHEAD. I HAD NO IDEA. LITERALLY, I'M LIKE GOING, BOY, I TELL PEOPLE THEY NEED TO RIDE WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THEY NEED TO RIDE WITH YOU ALL JUST TO SEE WHAT YOU SIT THERE AND HAVE TO DO EVERY DAY TO KEEP THIS OPERATION MOVING SAFELY. YEAH. SAFELY. SO, UH, UM, MAD I'M SURE. I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA, UM, THAT WE JUST, HEY, ALL IT IS A LITTLE NUDGE. WELL, I MEAN IT ALL, IT IS A LITTLE NUDGE AND HAVE 'EM SAY, HEY, MAYBE THIS IS A GOOD IDEA. MAYBE THEY GIVE IT PUBLIC WORKS. YEAH. LET'S DO THAT. THE OLYMPICS ARE COMING. WHAT PRIORITY IS GONNA BE HERE? HERE? SO IT'S A TWO FOUR FROM, FROM US AS THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE. YES, MA'AM. TO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO TO CITY MANAGER AND REQUEST IT THROUGH CITY MANAGER FOR A FULL-TIME PERSON. YOU MIGHT, YOU MIGHT HAVE WORKED AT THE CITY AND KNOW THE MECHANISM THERE . SO, SO WE'RE SAYING IT'S FROM YOU KIDDING. SO IT'S GONNA THREE OF US WRITING A NOTE TO TOM. YEAH. . I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT IT IS. IT'S, IT'S US JUST SAYING, HEY, WHAT DO YOU THINK? WHAT DO YOU THINK ALL IT IS IS, WELL, YOU KNOW, NOT AT THIS TIME, GREAT. BUT AT LEAST WE MADE THAT, AT LEAST THE PUBLIC WILL KNOW WE MADE THAT PUSH. 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. WE'RE NOT HERE TO BE, WE'RE NOT HERE TO RUBBER STAMP EVERYTHING . THE LORD KNOWS I HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, AND IT, IT, IT'S, I I THINK ALL OF US HAVE OUR BELIEFS THAT WE REPRESENT THE PUBLIC, WE REPRESENT THE BOAT OWNERS, WE REPRESENT THE, THE CITIZENS OF LONG BEACH. 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE ARE. SO, UH, UH, I LOVE THE IDEA. I I'D MOVE THAT WE APPROVE. GO AHEAD. OKAY. SO I, I WANT TO SUPPORT THE CHAIR, VICE CHAIR OF THE ENTIRE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION. I BELIEVE THIS IS NOT THE PATHWAY YOU SHOULD GO DOWN. UM, JUST WHERE WE'RE AT IN 2026 AND WHERE WE'RE HEADING FINANCIALLY IN THE THAILANDS, UM, THE PRM MARINE BUREAU DOES NOT HAVE THE, THE BUDGET BANDWIDTH TO SUPPORT A SPECIAL PROJECT SERVICE US. WE DO NOT. UM, THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE ALREADY, WE HAVE A GREAT COLLABORATIVE RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR TIDELANDS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT OFFICER. CHARLENE AN SUKO AND HER TEAM, THEY WORK TIRELESS TIRELESSLY TO ADDRESS ALL THE PROJECTS IN TIDELANDS, BUT THEY GIVE A LOT OF TIME FOCUS AND EFFORT TO OUR MARINA PROJECTS. IF THERE HAS BEEN SLOW DOWNS IN THE PAST, IT IS NOT, UH, DON'T LOOK OFF TO PUBLIC WORKS FOR, TO ASSIGN, YOU KNOW, BLAME TO THAT. THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH OUR INTERNAL PRM PROCESSES AS WELL. SO I WOULD SAY, LET'S TAKE A BEAT HERE. LET'S, LET'S HAVE SOME MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS. LET'S SPEAK WITH CHARLENE. LET'S TALK TO THAT, THEIR STAFF, AND THEN GET THEIR INPUT AND FEEDBACK BEFORE WE DECIDE TO PUT OUT A TFF OR A, A MEMO TO, AND I THINK YOU KNOW, THAT THIS MOTION IS NOT OUT OF THE BLUE. I UNDERSTAND. AND HERE, YOU'RE, THIS IS YOUR, BEEN YOUR SECOND YEAR IN YOUR POSITION. AND SO IT WAS PRIOR TO YOU THAT WE WERE THINKING THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING WE NEEDED MM-HMM . AND IT THAT WE'RE NOT, UM, CHALLENGING THE PASSION, UM, AND ATTENTION THAT OUR ASSIGNED FOLKS FROM PUBLIC WORKS HAVE GIVEN US. I THINK WE JUST WANNA BE RATTLING OUR RATTLE A LITTLE LOUDER AND SAY, LET'S GET THOSE BATHROOMS DONE. LET'S GET THOSE BIG SLIPS IN. UM, SOME OF OUR PROJECTS WITHIN OUR FOOTPRINT HAVE REALLY BEEN PUSHED OVER FOR TOO LONG. AND TO, TO CLARIFY THE TIMEFRAME ON THOSE, THOSE ARE ACTIVELY MOVING FORWARD AS WE SPEAK. UM, AND THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE WORK OF THE CURRENT PROCESS WHERE WE DO WORK WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND THEIR STAFF. UM, UH, BIRTH ONE, BIRTH TWO, WE ARE CLOSE TO FINISHING UP REGULATORY AND CONSTRUCTION BID. UH, UM, THERE, THE ONE SIDE HERE OUT HERE, WHICH ARE MONEY MAKERS, HUGE , UM, UM, I LOOK AT RESTROOMS, YOU KNOW ME, I'M, I'M THE RESTROOM GUY, RESTROOM AIDS. UM, AND, AND I, [00:30:01] I, I, I SAW THE, THE NOTE AND WE HEARD THE NOTE FROM, UH, WIT, WELL, WHAT'S IT TAKE TO OPEN THE RESTROOMS OVER THERE? YEAH. I MEAN, I, WE'VE STATED THAT SINCE I CAME ON BOARD AND I'VE BEEN ON BOARD FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. SO IT, IT IS, I THINK THERE'S JUST FRUSTRATION ON OUR SIDE IN THE SENSE OF IF WE DO ASK FOR THIS, THEY'RE, I'M NOT GONNA SAY THEY'RE GONNA SAY NO, BUT YOU KNOW, THE FUNDING, THE FUNDING ISN'T THERE. WE KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE IT WITHIN OUR BUDGET TO DO IT. YEAH. BUT I THINK IT AT LEAST SHOWS THAT WE'RE CONCERNED. AND IF WE HAD SOMEBODY THERE THAT WAS DOING IT, AND YOUR TEAM'S DOING A GREAT JOB AND, AND THE TEAM OF, OF THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. WE'VE GOTTA PUT AN EXCLAMATION MARK SOMEWHERE BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR THIS SINCE YOU'RE RIGHT FROM THE, THE, THE FIRST DIRECTOR OR THE LAST DIRECTOR THAT WAS THERE. THIS WAS BROUGHT UP. AND IT'S NOT SO MUCH PUTTING OUR OUR FEET DOWN, TODD. I THINK IT'S JUST SAYING, COME ON. YOU KNOW, IS THIS ALL GONNA HAPPEN WITHIN THE NEXT TWO YEARS BECAUSE THE OLYMPICS AND WOO HOO WE'RE SET TO GO. I'M SURE MANY OF THIS IS GONNA HAPPEN BECAUSE THE EYES OF THE WORLD ARE GONNA BE ON LONG BEACH. THE EYES OF THE WORLD ARE GONNA BE ON LONG BEACH. UM, HE, YEAH. OKAY. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REQUEST WE GIVE IT A MONTH OR TWO. LET'S SEE THE NEXT, UM, THE NEXT QUARTERLY FROM PUBLIC WORKS. UH, WE HAVE PUBLIC WORKS STAFF COMING IN TO PRESENT ON NEXT THURSDAY OUR, OUR FEBRUARY MAC MEETING. MM-HMM . UM, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK SOME MORE QUESTIONS. SO I WOULD JUST ASK, JUST TO TAKE A BEAT AND GIVE US A COUPLE MONTHS TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH PUBLIC WORK STAFF AND OUR PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR, UM, THOSE SORT OF THINGS JUST TO SEE, JUST KIND OF WHERE, WHERE THINGS LIE A LITTLE BIT. BUT AGAIN, I HAVE TO STRESS THIS, THAT THIS INITIAL REQUEST FOR A, A DEDICATED PUBLIC WORKS, SPECIAL PROJECTS OFFICER, UH, FIRST CAME I THINK IN 26, 17, 20 18. WE'RE LIVING IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WORLD THAN 20 20 17. 2018. 2026 FROM A THAILANDS BUDGET STANDPOINT IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO ADDING STAFF, JUST PUTTING IT UP. BUT IF WE'D HAVE ACTED UPON IT, THEN THOSE PROJECTS WOULD'VE BEEN DONE. PROBABLY, UH, WE'VE HAD OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF. WE DUNNO STAFF, WE DUNNO STAFF AND WE DUNNO. AND COMMISSIONERS GENERAL PUBLIC. ANY INPUT? OKAY. LET'S GO AHEAD AND JUST ONE MORE, ONE MORE JUST TO, TO CLARIFY. LOOK, LOOK AT THE PICTURE OF HOW TIME THINGS HAVE CHANGED. I THINK WHEN, WHEN THE FORMER BUREAU MANAGER WAS HERE AND BACK IN 2017 AND ALL, WE WERE LOOKING AT THE MARINA STILL BEING UPGRADED AND THE, AND THE, THE, THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF WORK AND MONEY THAT IT TOOK FOR THAT. AND SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS PRECEDENT AND THAT TOOK, THAT TOOK PRIORITY. AND NOW THAT WAS DONE. AND NOW EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WAS ON THE LIST IS, IS COMING TO THE SURFACE. AND, UM, WE'RE SEEING THOSE THINGS. AND UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE THE REMODEL OF THE, AND THE REDO OF THE WHOLE MARINA HAS TOOK PRIORITY, IT TOOK PRIORITY AWAY FROM THOSE, THOSE PROJECTS THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE IN THE SAME TIME. MM-HMM . RATHER THAN PUSHED BACK, PUSHED BACK, PUSH BACK. SO, OKAY, GENERAL, SO CAN I TALK TO THIS TOPIC NOW? YES. THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. YES. I WANT YOU REMEMBER ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT MY SON AND I, BECAUSE I I, I TALK ABOUT ORGANIZATIONAL BEHAVIOR AND THE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE HERE ON THE TABLE HAS TO DO WITH THE OVERLOAD OF AN ORGANIZATION WITHIN THE CITY. AND IT'S, IT'S JUST ABOUT ORGANIZATIONAL BEHAVIOR AND ORGANIZATION AND CLEAR PRIORITIES WITHIN THE WORK GROUP. AND I, YOU, YOU CAN'T ADDRESS THAT AT THIS LEVEL. THIS, THIS, THE PUBLIC WORKS HAS TO ADDRESS IT. AND, AND I HAVE TO BE HONEST ABOUT IT TOO. AND IT'S KIND OF NEEDS TO HAVE AN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE IN PUBLIC WORKS THAT SAYS THESE ARE THE PRIORITIES AND THESE ARE NOT GONNA GET WORKED ON UNTIL THESE ARE GET DONE. AND IT'S REALLY SIMPLE. I MEAN, HOW, IF YOU HAD A BUSINESS TRYING TO DO WHAT PUBLIC WORKS DOES, WHAT WOULD YOU DO DIFFERENT? JUST THIS. THINK ABOUT THAT. I MEAN, IT WOULD CHANGE, IT WOULD CHANGE EVERY, I MEAN, COMING FROM UPS IT, IT CHANGES SOMETIMES DAILY. IT COULD BE WEATHER THAT COULD CHANGE IT. THERE'S ANYTHING THAT CAN CHANGE IT, IT COULD BE THE NEED THAT CHANGES IT AND WE CHANGE OVERNIGHT. I MEAN IT'S LIKE, HEY, TOMORROW WE'RE DOING IT THIS WAY. SIMPLE AS THAT. [00:35:01] SO, BUT YOU'VE GOT A REAL STRUCTURE AND YOU'VE GOT A CHAIN OF COMMAND. YEAH. AND, AND EVERYBODY SOLUTION DOES THEIR JOB. YES. RIGHT. AND THE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T DO THEIR JOB AREN'T THERE VERY LONG. RIGHT. SO THIS IS, BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT TOO. 'CAUSE TO ME, THIS KIND OF PROBLEM HAS TO DO WITH COMPETING PRIORITIES AND AGAINST A SMALL GROUP AND NOT A CLEAR DEFINITION OF WHAT HAS TO BE DONE BEFORE YOU CAN START THE NEXT ONE. AND IT'S, IT'S HARD. IT'S HARD IF YOU'RE DOWN THERE AT THE DESK LEVEL TRYING TO WORK THESE PROJECTS TO, TO ACTUALLY CUT TIME, PUT YOUR, WRAP YOUR BRAIN AROUND WHERE THIS WAS LAST TIME YOU PICKED IT UP AND GO ON WITH THAT. SO I, YOU KNOW, IT, THIS IS AN ORGANIZATIONAL PROBLEM, NOT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. AND, AND REALITY, I DON'T THINK THAT IT WOULD HAPPEN. BUT I DO THINK IT SENDS A MESSAGE THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE PROJECTS AND IT DOCUMENTS THAT THROUGH. AND, AND THAT'S ALL I'M LOOKING AT THIS, ALL THIS IS, IS I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A BEAST STING, IT'S A GNAT. AH, GOD. REALLY. , YOU KNOW, COME ON ONE MORE TIME. YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO, AND TODD, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANY OF THE OWNERSHIP AWAY FROM YOU. I'M SORRY. THERE'S ANOTHER, THE ONE MORE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN LET'S GO TO A VOTE. OH, THEY ALSO HAVE TO FACTOR IN THAT, THAT THEY, THERE WAS $33 MILLION IN OUR FUND THAT THEY ABSORBED, UM, WITH IN THAT $33 MILLION. HAD IT BEEN SPENT. THESE THINGS ON THESE PROJECTS, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN COMPLETE. THERE WOULD'VE BEEN FUNDED, I DUNNO ABOUT COMPLETED, BUT ALSO THE BATHROOMS AND THAT ARE IMPORTANT. BUT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE OLYMPIC PEOPLE COMING TO TOWN, THERE'S THE, THE DOCKS, THE, THE, THE DOCK IN FRONT OF HERE, IN FRONT OF THE, THE, UM, THE FUEL DOCK IN FRONT OF BALLAST POINT. THOSE ARE A HAZARD. THOSE ARE THE WORST DOCKS IN THE WORLD. AND THEY N'T BEEN, THEY, THEY NEED TO BE FIXED BEFORE THE OLYMPICS COMES TO TOWN WITH A REBUILD. THE BOAT OWNERS GOT WHAT THEY WANTED. THEY WANTED GOOD DOCKS. SO WE HAVE GOOD DOCKS, BUT THE REST OF THE MARINA, INCLUDING SHORELINE, NEEDS THESE DOCKS. AND I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT PRIORITY COME UP IN THE MEETINGS. AND WE DON'T NEED, IT'S NOT A BOAT OWNER. IT'S A, IT'S A VISITOR THAT NEEDS IT. SO IT SHOULDN'T COME OUT OF THE BOAT OWNERS NECESSARILY, OR BE A REASON FOR AN INCREASE IN OUR FEES BECAUSE OF THOSE DOCKS, BECAUSE THAT'S A PUBLIC FACING THING. AND SO, AND THEY'RE DANGEROUS. OKAY. MOTION ON THE FLOOR. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? ABSTAINING. I SAID AYE. OH, OKAY. THE MOTION PASSED. SO OUR MOTION IS TO DO A TWO FOUR FROM LETTER TO THE CITY MANAGER FROM MAC EXECUTIVE ASKING FOR A FULL-TIME PROJECT MANAGER. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT, YEAH. SHOULD IT ALSO GO MADAM CHAIR? SHOULD IT ALSO GO TO THE, UM, THE DIRECTOR? THE, UM, NOT YOU. I'M NOT, I, NO, THAT'S THE PROCESS. THE, THAT, UM, THE CITY MANAGER CONTROL AND KNOWS THAT PROCESS. WELL I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO EXPRESS THIS AS A LETTER OF CONCERN, NOT A DEMANDING LETTER OR ANYTHING ELSE. NO. BECAUSE ALL WE WANNA BE IS A, THAT THAT'S ALL WE ARE. AND WE, WE WANNA BE A, A FRIENDLY NAT . YEAH. I THINK A LETTER OF CONCERN WANNA BE A IS BETTER THAN A DIRECTIVE THAT WE WANT THIS, WE WANT THIS NOW. I THINK A, A LETTER BASICALLY OF LIKE YOU STATED, I THINK IS MUCH BETTER. UM, BUT WE'LL DRAFT IT OUT AND TAKE A LOOK. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE ABOUT THE DAVIES LAUNCH RAMP AND THE DOG BEACH? WELL, I'VE JUST BEEN TALKING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE DOG BEACH. MM-HMM . THEY'RE JUST LIKE, WHERE ARE THEY GONNA PUT IT DOWN THERE? THERE'S NO ROOM DOWN THERE. THE, THE BEACH IS NARROW. YOU'VE ALREADY GOT PLAYGROUNDS, YOU'VE ALREADY GOT SKATING AREAS AND BASKETBALL AND, AND THERE'S PEOPLE THAT LIKE AREAS THAT ARE DOG FREE. RIGHT. CHILDREN THAT ARE AFRAID OF DOGS AND YEAH. RIGHT UP ON THE HILL, YOU JUST SAID IT. CHILDREN THAT ARE AFRAID OF DOGS AND IT'S ALL COMMUNITY DOWN THERE. YEAH. IT'S ALL COMMUNITY. YEAH. SO IT'S, IT, IT IT'S EXCITING THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY AND THEN THAT'LL GIVE THE GENERAL PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO WEIGH IN ON THEIR THOUGHTS. YEAH. BECAUSE THERE IS A DOG PARK ALREADY UP AT BIXBY PARK. THERE'S A DOG PARK UP THERE. OH, WE HAVE A DOG BEACH TOO. I MEAN, WE HAVE A DOG. I, I THINK THAT'S THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER WITHIN THAT AREA WANTS TO MAKE SURE, UH, THAT HER RESIDENTS ARE SERVED. WHO IS THAT? THAT'S CINDY. MM-HMM . CINDY ALLEN. THAT'S DISTRICT TWO. THAT'S MY DISTRICT. YEAH. I'M EXCITED. THEY'RE GONNA, UH, DO A PRESENTATION. ANYTHING ELSE ON AGENDA ITEM THREE? NO MA'AM. NO. UM, AGENDA ITEM FOUR. MONTHLY UPDATES. YEAH. [00:40:01] UH, SO ALL ACROSS THE BOARD, UM, ALL THE DIVISION HAVE BEEN VERY BUSY. UM, CORY AND THE MARINE MAINTENANCE TEAM HAVE BEEN VERY BUSY IN GETTING ALL THE TREES OUT. UM, BEEN REALLY PLOWING THROUGH THAT, UM, GETTING 'EM STAGED OVER AT, AT DAVIES. UH, AND WE'LL GETTING, GETTING THEM BACK OVER INTO OUR DRY YARD, UH, VERY SHORTLY, PROBABLY LIKE WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH. UM, ALSO THE ELECTRICIAN THAT THEY BROUGHT ON OR THAT WE BROUGHT ON, HE HAS BEEN FIXING LIGHTS IN SHORELINE, UH, THAT WE'VE HAD LIKE BREAKER ISSUES AND VANDALIZED WIRE, UM, FIXING STUFF ON BELMONT PIER. HE'S, IT'S BEEN ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE TO HAVE SOMEBODY AS CONFIDENT AS HIM. UH, EMMANUEL CABS COME ON, UH, INTO OUR GROUP BECAUSE HE'S THE ATTITUDE, THE THE WORK HE DOES IS, IS JUST INCREDIBLE. SO. AND HAS THAT HAD AN IMPACT INVIGORATING THE REST OF THE STAFF THEN? I THINK IT HAS. YOU KNOW, IT'S, I THINK ANYTIME YOU BRING IN, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT FRESH SET EYES THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF CAN DO LIKE WILLINGNESS, ATTITUDE, I THINK IT THINK IT, YOU CAN'T HELP BUT HAVE IT RUB OFF OF PEOPLE. UM, IT'S JUST A, IT IS JUST A GREAT GUY AND HE, HE KNOWS HIS, HIS CRAFT. SO IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT IS GREAT. UH, AND IT KIND OF GOES, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THESE NEW HIRES WE'RE GETTING OUR, OUR PAINTER JOSEPH, YOU KNOW, HE'S, HE'S MAKING THINGS LOOK GREAT FROM OUR, YOU KNOW, RESTROOM ON AT BAY SHORE. AND SECOND TO, YOU KNOW, OUR RESTROOMS IN ALAMEDA BAY. YOU KNOW, TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, THAT WE, SOME OF THESE UNITS WE HAVE TO KEEP AROUND FOR A LITTLE BIT LONGER. CAN'T, HE'S A GREAT HIRE NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY. THE MAN IS A GENIUS WHEN IT COMES TO PAINTING. YEAH. LIKE TO FELLOW HIM AROUND FOR A DAY JUST BECAUSE HE JUST, WELL, AND THE, UM, AND THE COST SAVINGS THAT YOUR STAFF HAS LET US REALIZE AND WILL LET US DEFER REPLACING ITEMS BECAUSE THEY'VE MAINTAINED THEM SO WELL. YEAH. HAS MADE A SUBSTANTIAL DIFFERENCE IN EXTENDING OUR BUDGET. AND IT, IT REALLY IS AMAZING. AND THAT'S GOOD LEADERSHIP AND, AND HARD WORK. YEAH. AND THOSE, AND JUST LIKE, KINDA LIKE A COMMENT ON THOSE. AND THESE GUYS WE'RE BRINGING INTO THAT THEIR ABILITY TO TEACH THE NEXT CROP. 'CAUSE THEY, THEY REALIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, BOTH THESE GUYS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT YOUNG IN THEIR CAREERS. LIKE THEY'VE, THEY'VE SEEN THINGS, THEY'VE, THEY'VE WORKED PLACES. THEY'VE BEEN REALLY GREAT ABOUT TRAINING UP LIKE THIS, THIS NEXT GROUP, UH, AND SHARING THEIR KNOWLEDGE. SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY COOL TO SEE, 'CAUSE WE'RE SETTING OURSELVES UP AS, YOU KNOW, THE MARINE BUREAU FOR A LONG TIME. YEAH. THAT'S A, THAT'S A STANDOUT THING. BE SURE TO DOCUMENT ALL THAT. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S A BRIEFING AT A CONFERENCE, , UM, PASSING THE BATON AND HOW WELL IT'S A CROSS TRAIN AND YEAH. YEAH. UM, SO MAINTENANCE, I THINK, LIKE, I KNOW THEY'LL HAVE SOME OTHER LIKE, GREAT THINGS TO HIGHLIGHT ON, UM, YOU KNOW, KELLY'S TEAM, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE STORMS, AGAIN, JUST LIKE BEEN AMAZING ON THE BEACH. I GOT SOME REALLY GOOD EQUIPMENT FIXED UP. UM, SO THE CLAW FOR THE FRONT LOADER. UM, SO THEY'RE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, BETTER GRAB LOGS AND DIFFERENT DEBRIS OFF THE BEACH. UM, HELPED US CLEAN UP THE, THE DRY BOAT YARD. UM, SOME, SOME OLD, OLD ITEMS THAT WERE IN THAT, IN THAT AREA, UM, HAD STAFF THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY COME OVER AND, AND DO DEMO. UM, HOO. YEAH. YEAH. SO IT'S JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE, ALL THESE PARTS STUFF OFF OUR LIST ARE COMING TOGETHER. UM, OPERATIONS, WE HAD A, A VERY SUCCESSFUL AUCTION A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, UM, SOLD, YOU KNOW, ALMOST EVERYTHING THAT WE BROUGHT A COMMISSIONER BLAIR PARTICIPATED. HE MADE SOME PURCHASES. HE DID. I THINK, UH, A COUPLE OF, THEY'RE ON EBAY RIGHT NOW. AS LONG AS IT'S NOT BACK IN OUR ARENA, IT'S OKAY. YEAH. NAH. SO, YOU KNOW, AND THEN I SAID THE J 22 GOT, UM, ALL KINDS OF ATTENTION WAS, SO THIS GUY INTERNATIONALLY? YEAH, THIS IS THE BOAT. UM, HE'S GETTING READY TO TAKE IT OVER TO WILMINGTON FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR HIS, GOTTA BE OUTTA THE MARINA. UM, THAT'S THE SAILBOAT RIGHT THERE. THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THE JAY BOAT THAT, THAT GOT THE MOST INTEREST. AND I THINK IT DROVE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE AT THE AUCTION REALLY. AND I'VE NOTICED THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING YOU'VE REALLY, UM, EXCELLED IN. AND ALL THOSE, UH, COMMENT FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC REGARDING THE, THE EMBLEM ON THAT SAILING ANARCHY, WHO HAS BEEN A KIND OF A PAIN IN THE SIDE OF SYBIL RACERS AND YACHT CLUBS FOR, IT'S KIND OF HIS THAT HE'S BEEN DOING THAT A LONG TIME. SO HE'S, HE'S VERY NOTORIOUS BY POINTING OUT EVERYTHING WRONG WITH THE WAY SAILING IS RUN, SAILBOAT RACING IS RUN. AND APPARENTLY HE'S A REAL JERK. BUT HE, IT IS NOTORIOUS. SO THAT BOAT, WHEN THAT LIN WAS GONNA WITHIN THE SAILING COMMUNITY, THE RACING COMMUNITY, THAT WAS WHY ALL THE INTEREST POPPED UP BECAUSE OF THE OWNER THAT OWNS THAT ENVELOPE ON THE BACK. IT WAS CERTAINLY A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR. UM, I KNOW COMMISSIONER BLAIR ALSO TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S MOLD OR MILDEW, SOME OF THAT ON THE DOCKS AND SOME OF THE CLEANING AND YOU REALLY COMMENDED ONE OF YOUR EMPLOYEES ABOUT, UM, CLEANING THAT AREA UP. YEAH, SO WE, YOU KNOW, DUE TO THE DIFFERENT, LIKE LIGHT PENETRATION IN CERTAIN AREAS IN THE DOCKS, UH, THE MOISTURE THAT WE GET FROM THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CHANGING OF THE TEMPERATURES, UM, DOESN'T ALWAYS DRY OUT AS FAST AS WE'D LIKE TO SEE IT. UM, SO WE DO GET SOME ALGAE AND SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME DIFFERENT GROWTH ON THE DOCK DECKS. [00:45:01] UM, THE EQUIPMENT'S OUT HERE, , WE, WE'VE BEEN PUTTING IT TO USE, UH, MY TEAM'S BEEN REALLY, REALLY GRACIOUS WITH, WITH GETTING OUT THERE AND PUTTING IN SOME EXTRA EFFORT, UM, HITTING THE BIG SPOTS RIGHT NOW THAT ARE OF CONCERN. UH, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S A SLIP SLIP BECAUSE OF LIKE MOISTURE ON TOP OF ALGAE, UM, OR JUST, YOU KNOW, HOW UNSIGHTLY IT IS. UH, AND VERY THICK, UM, HITTING THOSE BIG SPOTS THAN WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH, THROUGH THE DOCKS. IS THERE A BETTER WAY TO DO AVOIDANCE OF THAT GROWING WITHOUT IMPACTING THE ENVIRONMENT? WE'RE TA I'M TALKING TO BELLINGHAM AND SOME OTHER DOCK GUYS. UH, THERE ARE DIFFERENT SEALERS, UH, THAT CAN BE USED ON CONCRETE. UM, THERE'S SPECIFIC ONES FOR THE GREEN ENVIRONMENT. UM, WE JUST WANT TO BUILD TO TEST THEM OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, A SEALER IS PREVENTING WATER FROM GETTING IN. SO IF THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING, IT ALSO HAS THE POTENTIAL TO MAKE IT SLICK. SO WE'RE JUST, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE DO IS, IS BEING DONE, YOU KNOW, WITH FULL THOUGHT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT CREATING ANOTHER ISSUE. UH, WASHINGTON BABY GO TO WASHINGTON. THEY, THEY DO IT WELL UP THERE. WELL, BELLINGHAM MARINES. YEAH. SO WE GOT THE RIGHT, RIGHT TEAM LOOKING AT IT. YEAH. SO WE'LL, WE'LL KEEP, WE'LL KEEP TRUCKING THROUGH THAT. UH, THE TEAM DOWNTOWN HAS ALSO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN, UH, AN ACCUMULATION OVER THE YEARS OF, YOU KNOW, DEBRIS ON DOCK BOXES AND ALL THAT. SO WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO GO THROUGH OUR FOOTPRINT AND, AND, AND DUST IT OFF. I POLISH IT UP AND GET A BIT MORE, YOU KNOW, OWNERSHIP FROM, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. IF, IF I COME IN AS A VOTER, THIS IS ME SPEAKING PERSONALLY. IF I COME IN AS A VOTER AND THE DOC BOX ISN'T CLEAN, I'M PROBABLY NOT GONNA CLEAN IT EITHER. BECAUSE THAT'S, YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT COMING INTO LIKE THIS ENVIRONMENT OF, YOU KNOW, THIS IS KIND OF A CULTURAL CHANGE AND CLEAN IT UP. EXPECT. YEAH. SO WE'RE, I'M, I'M TRYING TO, TO LEAN ON SOME, SOME SOCIAL PRESSURE TO GET A, GET SOME BUY-IN. ONCE WE GET IT CLEANED UP, WE'LL HAVE TO GET THE CLEANEST STOCK BOX AWARD. RIGHT. I KNOW. I LOVE IT. ARE THERE ALLOWED TO PAINT TROPHY? NO. NO. PLEASE. NO. . PLEASE DON'T. ALRIGHT, I'LL STOP. UH, AND THEN THE LAST ONE, I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WE, I WORKED WITH MAINTENANCE YESTERDAY. UM, WE HAVE OUR DOCK POST RETURN STATIONS INSTALLED ON TWO LOCATIONS ON DOCK ONE. UM, THE LOCKS CAME IN WITH THE WRONG KEY. SO HE'S, HE'S GETTING THOSE FIXED, BUT WE ARE, WE HAVE 'EM IN, UH, IT WORKS LIKE WE, WE TESTED IT OUT WITH, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE A, A RE RETENTION PIN TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WOULD SIT IN THERE PROPERLY. SO I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE WHAT THE, WHAT THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, THOUGHTS ARE AS WE, AS WE ROLL THAT OUT IN THESE LIMITED LOCATIONS. WILL I ALWAYS GO BACK TO THE OLYMPICS AND THE SECURITY, 'CAUSE I JUST MET YESTERDAY WITH SECURITY FOR OLYMPICS, THE SECURE DOCS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SECURE. AND YOU HAVE, WE HAVE THE NO TRESPASSING ON 'EM. UH, BUT, UH, ARE YOU WORKING, IS THE DEPARTMENT WORKING, YOU GUYS WORKING WITH, UH, SECRET SERVICE AND THEM THAT ARE REALLY GONNA, I MEAN, WE'RE WORKING AS A, JUST AS A, AS A, AS THE MARINE BUREAU. UM, SO KELLY HAD DONE SOME REALLY NICE, UH, ENCLOSURES, YOU KNOW, FULL SECURITY GATES DOWN AT RAINBOW HARBOR. RIGHT. SO WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF LEANING ON, ON THAT INITIAL DESIGN THAT HE HAS DOWN THERE. UH, AND COREY AND I, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL TEAMING UP TOGETHER TO TRY TO RETROFIT WHAT WE HAVE BECAUSE WE HAVE A VERY SOLID BASE. SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE OUR DOLLAR STRETCH AS FAR AS WE CAN. SO WE'RE SEEING WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THE BASE OF THIS ADD ON A ON A FULL HEIGHT PIECE, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME WINGS COMING BACK. SO IT'S, IT'S MORE SECURE IN, IN THE END. LIKE, THIS IS ALL WATER, RIGHT. SO ANYBODY THAT'S IN A BOAT IS GONNA GET ON OUR DOCK, BUT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PREVENT, YOU KNOW, KEEP THE HONEST PEOPLE HONEST. LIKE KIDS CAN'T JUST REACH OVER AND HIT THE PANIC BAR. YEAH. ANYBODY CAN'T REACH OVER AND, YOU KNOW, HIT ANYTHING ELSE WE'RE HOPING FOR ON THE MANAGER'S UPDATE? NO MA'AM. ANY REQUESTS TO THE WE WE'D LIKED HOW EACH MONTH THAT'S BEEN GETTING MORE ROBUST AND, UM, AND MORE PHOTOS AND PICTURES ARE GREAT. YEAH. A LOT. IT HELPS US COMPREHEND SOME OF THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE. AND I THINK WE DON'T ALWAYS REALIZE ALL THE TASKS YOU DO. UM, I REALIZED GOING THROUGH OUR MINUTES OF THE LAST YEAR TO WRITE THE SUMMARY REPORT. WOW. I, I WAS TIRED READING THROUGH IT. . UM, , I THINK SOMETIMES WE, LIKE, WE FORGET LIKE ALL THE STUFF WE DO. SO GOING BACK INTO THOSE MAC REPORTS, THOSE MONTHLY, LIKE SLIDESHOW, LIKE, OH YEAH, WE DID, WE ACTUALLY DID FORGOT ABOUT ALL THOSE ISSUES. THAT'S WHAT I COLLECTED WHEN I WENT TO MY BOSS HERE. . UH, AND THEN ITEM FIVE ON OUR AGENDA IS A RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE, UM, THE, UM, COMMITTEE REPORTS. UH, I THINK THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE HISTORICAL ONE AS WELL. AND THEN WE HAVE A, YES, SHE'S, UH, UM, SHE'LL DO A BRIEFING. SO GONA, I, UM, WANNA BRING SOMETHING UP AND WE, WE DON'T HAVE NEW BUSINESS . OKAY. BUT I'M, I'M FILING IT UNDER EXECUTIVE, BUT UM, MY TERM ENDS IN JUNE MM-HMM . AND SO DOES ELIZABETH. AND I WAS APPROACHED BY ONE COMMISSIONER WHO JUST SAID, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? HOW DOES THIS [00:50:01] WORK? SO I'M HOPING AT SOME POINT BE EITHER NEXT MONTH AND IN THE, UM, MARCH REPORT, THE MARCH, UH, MEETING, WE CAN TALK ABOUT TERMS AND THE PROCESS, THE WHOLE PROCESS OF, UM, OUR, OUR CHANGING OF, UM, COMMISSIONERS AND, UM, MOVING ON TO THE NEXT PER, UM, CHAIR, IF THE CHAIR IS DONE AT THAT TIME, I'M JUST WOULD WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A REMINDER KIND OF TRANSITION PLANNING. YEAH. YEAH. AND THEN, AND TO BE SURE TO RECRUIT TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR APPLICANTS AGAIN. YES. LIKE WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME BE. AND, UH, DO YOU THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO ASK, UH, JEFF WILLIAMS IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE TO KIND OF GIVE US SOME MAYBE A ONE PAGE SUMMARY THAT WE COULD INCLUDE IN THE MAC PACKET? TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE RECRUITMENT AND WHEN THEY'RE PLACING THOSE AND, AND WHEN OUR OPENINGS ARE. LET ME SEE IF WE CAN GET JEFF FOR APRIL. UH, I KNOW THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, BUT BASED ON WHAT WE'VE ASKED AND REQUESTS WE'VE MADE FOR PRESENTATIONS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PRETTY ROBUST MARCH. UM, SO I, I WAS THINKING JUST A ONE PAGE SUMMARY AND THEN MAYBE HE CAN SPEAK FURTHER ON THINGS THAT WE, SO WE CAN GET SOME OF THE PROCESS GOING IF, IF THEY KNOW THEY'RE GONNA START AN INTERVIEW PROCESS AGAIN. 'CAUSE I KNOW THEY DON'T DO THOSE FREQUENTLY. YEAH. HE, HE INFORMED US THAT MAY IS GOING TO BE THEIR NEXT, UH, WINDOW OF, OF LOOKING AT APPLICANTS MM-HMM . BECAUSE, UH, HE IS AWARE THAT WE DO HAVE ONE VACANCY RIGHT NOW. RIGHT. ONE VACANCY RIGHT NOW. YES. AND THEN THAT TWO MORE. AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TWO MORE. SO HE KNOWS THAT HE'S, HES, AND HE WORKS AT LEAST 60 HOURS A WEEK. SO ASK HIM ONE MORE THING IS, OKAY, , LET'S DO A LETTER. NO, I'M KIDDING. , WE'VE BEEN TAMLIN AND I HAVE BOTH BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH JEFF AT, UH, UH, APPOINTMENTS. YES. AND JEFF IS ONE PERSON THAT IS A LOT LIKE YOU AND YOUR STAFF THAT, UM, ANY DAY OF THE WEEK, I CAN SEND A TEXT AND I GET AN ANSWER RIGHT BACK , SORRY, ABOUT THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. BUT I WAS, I WAS, I WAS. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK THE CITY COUNCIL TOO. CITY COUNCILWOMAN. I MEAN, I WAS ASKED TO DO THIS FROM WHEN ROBERT WAS MAYOR, YOU KNOW, AND I, HE JUST, I SAID, YEAH, IT'D BE GREAT. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? AND I SAID, NO, IT'D BE, IT'D BE GREAT. SO, AND IT'S BEEN GREAT. IT'S BEEN ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL. BUT I THINK THE CITY COUNCIL, THEY BEING PROACTIVE WHERE IF WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE OR TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE LEAVING THAT DAY AND INTRODUCING THE TWO NEW PEOPLE AT THE SAME TIME, WOULDN'T THAT JUST BE WONDERFUL FOR OUR YEAH. IT WOULD BE THAT WAY. WE MOVE FORWARD WITH A FULL, FULL HEAD OF STEAM. MM-HMM . YEAH. I LIKE THAT. THAT'S A GOAL. YES MA'AM. VERY GOOD. YEAH. UM, AND THEN THE OTHER ITEM IS, UM, I HAD TALKED ABOUT BRINGING MICHELLE, THE WOMAN WHO PICKED, I DON'T KNOW HER LAST NAME. SHE'S MY NEIGHBOR. OH, THE KAYAK. THE KAYAK. THE KAYAK. SHE AND HER FATHER, SHE HAD A STROKE. OH NO. AND THAT'S WHY, UM, BUT HER CAREGIVER GOT A HOLD OF ME AND JUST SAID, MICHELLE, MICHELLE IS IMPROVING. AND SHE WOULD STILL BE INTERESTED. CAN WE DO ACCOMMODATION? LIKE WE'VE GOT ANOTHER ONE ON THE WICKET TO DO THE, A CERTIFICATE. LET'S, WELL, WHEN SHE WAIT, GOT, YEAH. WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS GET AHOLD OF CANDACE YEAH. AND FIND OUT HOW IS SHE DOING? AND THEN LET'S DO IT. MAKE GOAL DOWN THE LINE GOAL FOR MARCH. AND THEN I'D SAY IT'S AN OPEN INVITATION WHEN SHE'S YEAH. MAYBE APRIL WOULD BE BETTER. 'CAUSE MARCH IS GONNA BE SO BUSY. YEAH. WE'VE GOT A LOT. AND, AND THEN THERE'S THE UNC AND UNC THE UNKNOWN UNKNOWNS. YEAH. BUT I'M SURE WE'RE, WE'RE MEETING I GUESS AT THE, UH, UH, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THE YACHT CLUB, WE'RE GONNA DO BIXBY. UM, AND THE YACHT CLUB IS, UM, IS ALMOST RESOLVED THEIR ISSUE. OKAY. MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT MARCH. YEAH. I THINK IT'LL BE, YOU TALK ABOUT IT. YEAH. UH, LAN'S, UH, BEEN, UH, IN COMMUNICATION WITH THEIR, THEIR, UH, SCHEDULER, THE COMPANY. GREAT. MM-HMM . AND YEAH. WE JUST, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GIVING THE YACHT CLUB ENOUGH TIME TO MOVE PIECES AROUND. SURE. UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME AS THE MAC ADVISORY COMMISSION TO HAVE A FULL MEETING WHERE, WHERE YOU'RE NOT BEING RUSHED. YES. UM, SO, UM, THAT'S RIGHT. 'CAUSE THEY USE THE ROOM FOR OTHER THINGS. I JUST, I LIKE IT IN THAT SENSE BECAUSE WE'LL GET MORE VOTE OWNERS THERE. SO TAYLORS MADE THE REQUEST TO, TO GET, GET US BACK OVER HERE AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO BEHIND THE SCENES ON THAT. I KNOW THAT'S A LOT OF REJECTION. TODD GETS REJECTION ON OUR SPEAKERS. YOU GET RID OF PATIENT ON OUR VENUES AND THE TENACITY THAT YOU BOTH HAVE SHOWN FOR US. SO WE JUST WANNA GIVE HIM TIME TO ADJUST TO GET, GET, GET ON THE SCHEDULE PROPERLY. YES. ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS? UM, ANY [00:55:01] OTHER LAST COMMENTS FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC, UM, ON ANNOUNCEMENTS? I WILL NOT BE ATTENDING OUR MEETING NEXT WEEK. OH, SO IT'S MINE. SO, MR. MITCHELL . I'M SORRY. OKAY. SO WE'RE DOWN TO FIVE. SO THAT'S, YEAH. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, AT THE, THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE CONFIRMED ATTENDANCE ARE PRESENT OR WE WOULD NOT HAVE EXACTLY. RIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S RIGHT. 'CAUSE WE'RE MISSING ONE NOW. MM-HMM . MM-HMM . THINK WE'RE DONE. SHE'S NOT GONNA BE THERE. OKAY. OH, GORDON'S NOT GONNA BE THERE EITHER, BUT SHE LET US KNOW WELL IN ADVANCE. OKAY. OKAY. WITH NO FURTHER BUSINESS, WE'RE ADJOURNED AT 9 25. THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.