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THE TRANSACTION AND USE TAX CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING TO ORDER FOR FEBRUARY 5TH, 2026.MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE MEMBER AMY? MEMBER
UH, FOR THE RECORD, UH, MEMBER EMMY IS EXCUSED FROM THE MEETING, AND WE ALSO WANNA WELCOME MOOD WALK TO HIS FIRST CUC MEETING.
DO I NEED TO ASK FOR OBJECTIONS? OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE FIRST ITEM.
UH, CAN I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE ITEM NUMBER ONE? OKAY.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED BY MEMBER, UH, OCHOA AND, UH, VICE CHAIR POWER.
SO ARE THERE ANY, YEAH, ARE THERE? NO.
ARE THERE ANY QUE ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CORRECTIONS FOR THE MINUTES OR TO NOT SEE THINGS? AND, UH, WE WILL NOW TAKE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.
ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE MINUTES, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL VOTE.
OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON TO, UH, THE SECOND ITEM.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION? AND SECOND FOR THIS ITEM? I'LL SECOND.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED BY MEMBER OCHOA AND VICE CHAIR HOWARD.
I'M NOW GONNA PASS IT OVER TO STAFF FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UM, WE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS A RECEIVE AND FILE INVESTIGATION FROM THE OFFICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING MAYOR REX RICHARDSON'S MESSAGE FROM THE TRANSACTIONS AND USE TAX CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING ON 13 NOVEMBER 6TH, 2025.
AND JUST TO PROVIDE CLARITY OF THE COMMITTEE'S SCOPE OF WORK.
MY NAME IS ASHLEY STONE, DEPUTY TO BE CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
SO WE WERE LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE MAYOR RICHARDSON JOIN US AND ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE ON NOVEMBER 6TH, 2025.
HE DISCUSSED A VARIETY OF TOPICS, INCLUDING HOLDING THE LINE OF INFRASTRUCTURE, HOW HELPFUL MEASURE A IS REVENUE HISTORY, UH, THE GROW LONG BEACH STRATEGY ARE CITY INFRASTRUCTURE GAP, AND THE VISION FOR THE NEXT GENERATION CITY STAFF WANTED TO FOLLOW UP TO ENSURE CLARITY ON HOW THIS MAY IMPACT THE WORK OF THIS COMMITTEE.
WE VIEW THE MAYOR'S CALL TO ACTION AS IT FITS WITHIN THE VOTER PROOF SCOPE OF THIS COMMITTEE.
AS FOLLOWS, CONFIRM THE CITY OF LONG BEACH, MEASURE A INFRASTRUCTURE GAP AND TELL THE, MEASURE A STORY TO THE COMMUNITY.
AS ALWAYS, WE WANT TO ENSURE THE WORK OF THIS COMMITTEE REMAINS WITHIN ITS VOTER ROOF SCOPE.
THE TRANSACTION AND NEWS TAX CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE OF THE CITY OF LONG BEACH IS ESTABLISHED BY THE LONG BEACH CITY COUNCIL.
IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CAC TO PERIODICALLY REVIEW THE CITY'S USE OF TUT REVENUE AND ADVISE THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE USE OF TOT REVENUE.
ALL ACTIONS OF THE CAC SHALL BE ADVISORY ONLY EXCEPT FOR THOSE MATTERS WHERE FINAL AUTHORITY HAS BEEN ASSIGNED BY ACTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO BASED ON THE SCOPE, WE AGAIN SEE THE MAYOR'S CALL TO ACTION TO BE, TO CONFIRM THIS, UH, THE CITY OF LONG BEACH, MEASURE A INFRASTRUCTURE GAP AND TELL THE STORY OF, UM, UH, TELL THE, MEASURE A STORY TO THE COMMUNITY.
THIS COMMITTEE IS ADVISORY IN NATURE, AND IT MUST ISSUE AT LEAST ONE REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL VIA THE CITY MANAGER.
THAT WAS, AND THEN AS
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MEETING FOR THE COMMITTEE.THIS CONCLUDE, EXCUSE ME, THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION MEMBERS.
UH, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PRESENTATION? UH, I'M SORRY.
WAS YOU SAID A ISSUE ONE REPORT THAT ANNUALLY MINIMUM ANNUALLY.
YEAH, WE HAD THE BUDGET MEETING LAST YEAR THAT WENT TO CITY COUNCIL BY THE WAY OF CITY MANAGER.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU MET YOUR OBLIGATION OF THAT AT LEAST ONE MEETING OR ONE, UM, ONE REPORT, YES.
UM, AS FAR AS THE COMMUNICATING MESSAGE TO THE PUBLIC, WHAT'S BEEN THE HISTORICAL ACTION THAT THAT CAN BE DONE TO READ THAT REPORT? YEAH, SO, UM, THAT HAS BEEN THROUGH THE REPORT THAT IS PUBLIC AND, UM, IS SENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, UH, BY WAY OF CITY MANAGER.
SO ANYTHING NEEDS FROM WITHIN THAT.
UH, THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS.
UH, WE'VE TAKEN PUBLIC COMMENTS FIRST.
ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM OR OTHER COMMENTS? UH, TUTU? UH, NO.
I, WELL, I WASN'T AT THE MEETING.
I DID WATCH SOME VIDEO ONLINE AND APPRECIATE THE MAYOR'S PERSPECTIVE.
AND, UH, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN GOVERNOR 15 PLUS YEARS AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LOTS OF COMMITTEES AND LOTS TO DO AND I THINK THERE'S A, IT'S GOOD TO HEAR THE, WHAT'S, WHAT'S IN SCOPE, WHAT'S THAT SCOPE TO HELP US DO OUR WORK IN THE FUTURE.
AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY GOOD PRESENTATION AND IT'S ALWAYS GOOD.
I, I DON'T KNOW IF THE MAYORS EVER COME TO PAST MEETING, UH, TO, TO ADDRESS THE GROUP.
AND I DO HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS REAL QUICKLY.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THOUGH, ON YOUR REQUEST FOR INFORMATION, WHEN YOU'RE SAYING THAT REQUEST MADE OUTSIDE OF AN AD HOC COMMITTEE WILL CONTINUE TO BE HANDLED FOR RECEIVE AND FILE AGENDA ITEMS. SO I WANNA MAKE SURE IS WHEN THOSE REQUESTS, UH, NEED TO HAPPEN.
SO ARE WE SUPPOSED TO, WHEN WE'RE SETTING UP THE MEETING, WE WOULD ASK REBECCA TO PUT IT ON FOR DISCUSSION SO THAT THEN THERE CAN BE A REQUEST OF A PRESENTATION AND THEN THE FOLLOWING MEETING WOULD BE THE PRESENTATION? THAT WOULD BE CORRECT.
SO IF THERE IS A NEED FOR A, IF THERE'S A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE SENT A GAP, WHENEVER THAT REQUEST ARISES, THEN IT'LL GO ONTO THE NEXT REGULARLY NOTICED AGENDA OR ANY, IF THERE'S A SPECIAL MEETING, IT JUST, WHENEVER THE NEXT MEETING IS, IT'LL, IT'LL BE AN AGENDA ITEM FOR RECEIVING FILE TO HAVE A BODY WITH IT.
SO IF TOMORROW ANYONE WANTED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION, LET'S JUST SAY, UH, THEY WANTED SOME HISTORY ABOUT THE BONDS, AND LET'S SAY IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, WE'D HAVE TO WAIT TILL THE MARCH OR APRIL MEETING, PUT IT ON THERE.
SAY WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST STAFF FOR BONDS, AND THEN IN THE JUNE MEETING, THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD HAVE IT.
WELL, IN TERMS OF WHEN IT'S, WE WOULD JUST NEED IT VOTED ON BY THE BODY TO APPROVE IT AND THEN IN, IT WOULD JUST BE UP TO STAFF IN TERMS OF WHEN YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO RECEIVE THAT.
WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE NEXT CARE WEEK RECEIVE IT AND TELL THEM THE, THE NEXT MEETING BY THAT, THAT RIGHT.
SO YOU COULD PROBABLY GO TO ASK FOR THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING AND WE CAN HAVE THAT MATERIAL PREPARED FOR THE, FOR THE FOLLOWING.
SO, BUT IT'S STILL GONNA TAKE ANOTHER MEETING.
WELL, YEAH, WE CAN PROVIDE THE ATION TODAY.
SO, AND THEN JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS, 'CAUSE I KNOW WHAT THE REQUEST WAS ON MAYOR REX, WE, THERE WAS A CONVERSATION BEING HAD THAT YES, WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A GAP IN FUNDS FOR, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE AND THAT THE COMMITTEE POTENTIALLY WAS GONNA OPEN TO EXPLORE OTHER WAYS OR VEHICLES.
AND WE KNOW AMONGST ALL OF US THAT THE BOND STUFF POSSIBILITY HAS GONE AWAY.
AND THAT WAS ALREADY DONE BEFORE, UH, THIS MEETING.
I GUESS THE, SINCE STAFF HAD DONE THAT, AND I THINK EVERYBODY WHO KNOW WHO'S IN ANY INVOLVEMENT KNOWS THAT IT'S NOT GONNA PASS.
SO THAT'S LIKE, SO WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT FUTURE BONDS OR ANYTHING, OR NONE OF THAT STUFF.
WELL, I WOULD SAY THAT THE, ANY DISCUSSION REVIEW WOULD JUST BE LIMITED TO WOMEN'S SCOPE OF MEASURING FUNDING.
SO, AND THE INFORMATION RELATED TO THAT MEASUREING, I'M FINE.
SO, UH, MADAM CLERK, LET'S JUST PLEASE CALL OR VOTE TO, UH, I GUESS, UH, TO JUST RECEIVE FILE THIS MEMBER PENTO A MEMBER OCHOA A VICE CHAIR.
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IS CARRIED.IF WE CAN READ THE NEXT ITEM PLEASE.
ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE ANNUAL COMMITTEE ACTIVITY REPORT FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2025.
ALRIGHT, AND MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND FOR THIS ITEM? UM, SECOND.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MEMBER OCHOA AND SECONDED BY MEMBER TUUK, UH, STAFF.
DO WE HAVE A REPORT? YEAH, UH, WE JUST HAVE A QUICK BRIEF REPORT AND JUST, UH, OVERVIEW OF WHAT THIS REPORT IS.
EVERY YEAR WE BRING A ACTIVITY REPORT TO THE COMMUNITY.
THIS SUMMARIZES THE ACTIVITIES THAT WERE IN THE PRIOR, UH, CALENDAR YEAR.
SO IN 2025, WE HELD BOARD MEETINGS AND HIGHLIGHTS THE, UH, TOPICS THAT WERE DISCUSSED.
PER THE, UH, LONG BEACH BETWEEN THIS FULL CODE, WE ARE RESPONSIBLE TO REPORT THAT ACTIVITY BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO IF APPROVED, THIS WILL REPORT WILL BE TRANSMITTED BY THE CITY MANAGERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO
MEMBERS, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE REPORT AND CLARIFICATION? THIS IS KIND OF WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.
THIS IS, THIS IS OUR ANNUAL REPORT OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH MEASURE A.
BY, UM, SO THAT PROCESS FROM HERE, THIS END UP BEING LIKE A TWO FOUR CITY MANAGER MEMO WITH THIS IS AN ATTACHMENT THAT GOES ON PUBLIC WEBSITE.
YEAH, THAT'S A PRESSURE IN COUNCIL.
SO IT WOULD BE TRANSMITTED WITH THE A TFF, UH, TWO, PRO FOUR FROM THE CITY MANAGER TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND ONLINE YOU WILL SEE NOT JUST OUR COMMITTEE, BUT EVERY COMMITTEE'S ACTIVITIES WILL BE POSTED.
SO IT'S, UH, PART OF THE, THIS WILL THAT, THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR, UH, GUESS WHAT'S THE TIMEFRAME OF MONTH WISE? TIME PROCESS?
SO WE TRY TO GET THE, UH, ACTIVITY REPORT TO THE FIRST MEETING OF THE, UH, CALENDAR YEAR.
SO GET IT EARLY POST IT AFTER THIS MEETING.
AND, AND FOR CLARIFICATION, 'CAUSE THIS IS THE ONE THAT JUST BASICALLY SAYS WE MET AND WE DID ALL THIS STUFF WHEN I READ IT, RIGHT? CORRECT.
BUT THERE'S ONE OTHER ONE THAT WE ALWAYS DO AN ANNUALLY THAT JUST SAYS WE, YOU KNOW, THE MONEY WAS SPENT AS INDICATED FOR.
THAT'S THE ONLY OTHER THING WE FILED, RIGHT? YEAH.
ACTUALLY IT BUILT INTO THIS REPORT BECAUSE THE, UH, THE SPENDING PLAN OF THE FISCAL YEARS IS PART OF AN AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS BROUGHT TO THE COMMITTEE IN AUGUST.
AND WHEN THAT IS APPROVED, IT'S JUST HIGHLIGHTED IN THE AUGUST BULLETS THAT THIS WAS AN AGENDA ITEM THAT BROUGHT TO THE, SO IT'S CAPTURED THE MOMENT.
SO THIS IS ALL OF OUR WORK, BUT ALL OF YOU, ONE PIECE OF PAPER.
SO, UH, IF THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS FROM YOUR MEMBERS, UH, WE WILL NOW TAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND, PLEASE.
UH, ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION? NONE.
MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL FOR THE VOTE.
ALRIGHT, WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS A RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE AN UPDATE ON THE LONG BEACH FIRE DEPARTMENT USE OF MEASURE AID FUNDING IN FISCAL YEAR 25
UH, MY NAME IS HENRY OSHA AND I'M THE FINANCIAL SERVICES OFFICE OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
AND TODAY I AM REPRESEN PRESENTING A WITNESS CHIEF OPERATION.
SO BEFORE I MOVE FORWARD, CAN I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PLEASE? HERE? UH, YES.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND FOR THIS ITEM OF THUMB, BUT ALL? YEAH.
UH, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED BY MEMBER OCHOA AND A MEMBER INTO, AT THE AD HOC REPORT.
I'M NOT GONNA REPEAT THAT
UM, SO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PROVIDES 9 1 1 FRONTLINE EMERGENCY SERVICES CITYWIDE, INCLUDING COVERAGE FOR THE PORT OF LONG BEACH, THE LONG BEACH AIRPORT, AND THE COASTLINE.
THE DEPARTMENT STAFFS 23 FIRE STATIONS CONSISTING OF 18 GENERAL CITY FIRE STATIONS, FOUR SPECIALIZED PORT FIRE STATIONS AND ONE STATION SERVING THE LONG BEACH AIRPORT.
COASTAL RESPONSE CAPABILITIES INCLUDE TWO PORT FIRE BOATS, SIX FIRE AND LIFEGUARD RESCUE BOATS, 22 LIFEGUARD TOWERS AND EIGHT LIFEGUARD FACILITIES.
THE DEPARTMENT OPERATES 10 GENERAL CITY FIRE ENGINES,
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FOUR GENERAL CITY FIRE TRUCKS, FOUR DEDICATED FORT FIRE ENGINES, AND THREE DEDICATED AIRPORT FIRE APPARATUS.EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES DEPLOYMENT INCLUDES 10 24 7 PARAMEDIC AMBULANCES, ONE PEAK LOAD PARAMEDIC AMBULANCE OPERATING 12 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, AND FIVE BASIC LIFE SUPPORT METER.
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS COMMITTED TO DELIVERING COMPREHENSIVE SERVICES TO PROTECT AND SERVE THE COMMUNITY.
THE DEPARTMENT IS COMPRISED OF MORE THAN 550 DEDICATED SWORN AND PROFESSIONAL STAFF.
FRONTLINE OPERATIONS INCLUDE OVER 400 SWORN FIRE PERSONNEL, 26 AMBULANCE OPERATORS, AND 53.13 FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT MARINE SAFETY STAFF.
THE 63.19 FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT PROFESSIONAL STAFF PROVIDE ESSENTIAL SUPPORT THROUGH FIRE PREVENTION, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, COMPLIANCE, HUMAN RESOURCES, FINANCE, WAREHOUSE OPERATIONS, AND AL FUNCTIONS, ENSURING EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE SERVICE DELIVERY.
TODAY'S, TODAY'S PRESENTATION WILL HIGHLIGHT MEASURE A FUNDING ALLOCATED TO FIRE DEPARTMENT.
WE HAVE FOUR MAJOR CATEGORIES OF INVESTMENT.
FIRST, WE WILL REVIEW MEASURE A FUNDS USED TO RESTORE FIRE SERVICES THAT WERE ELIMINATED DURING THE GRADE RECESSION.
SECONDLY, WE WILL COVER MEASURE A FUNDS USED TO MAINTAIN FIRE, STAFFING AND SERVICES.
THIRD, WE WILL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
AND LASTLY, WE WILL COVER NEW ONE-TIME INVESTMENTS THAT ENHANCE CRITICAL EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES AND SUPPORT EQUITY AND DIVERSITY INITIATIVES.
BEFORE DISCUSSING CURRENT MEASURE A INVESTMENTS, WE WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE THE COMMITTEE WITH A HIGH LEVEL HISTORICAL OVERVIEW OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S SERVICES.
THIS SLIDE INCLUDES A GRAPH SHOWING FIRE SWORN BUDGETED STAFFING LEVELS FROM FISCAL YEAR 2009 THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2025.
FOR CONTEXT, FIRE SWORN REFERS TO EMPLOYEES WHO ENTERED CITY SERVICE AS FIREFIGHTERS AND ADVANCEMENT DEPARTMENT SPECIALTY SUPERVISORY AND MANAGEMENT RANKS.
FIRE SWORN STAFFING INCLUDES ALL PERSONNEL, ALL SWORN PERSONNEL FROM THE FIRE CHIEF THROUGH ENTRY LEVEL FIRST YEAR FIREFIGHTERS.
THESE POSITIONS COLLECTIVELY DELIVER THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S CORE SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY.
AS SHOWN IN THE CHART, FIRE SWORN STAFFING PEAKED IN FISCAL YEAR 2009 AT 438 POSITIONS THE HIGHEST LEVEL IN THE CITY'S RECENT HISTORY.
FOLLOWING THE ONSET OF THE GREAT RECESSION, THE DEPARTMENT EXPERIENCED CONSECUTIVE REDUCTIONS IN STAFFING AND SERVICES REACHING A LOW IN FISCAL YEAR OF 2013, BEGINNING IN FISCAL YEAR 2014.
STAFFING LEVELS GRADUALLY RECOVERED THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 2019, AFTER WHICH FIRE SWORN STAFFING HAS STABILIZED AND JUST OPENED.
IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE CONTINUED GROWTH IN SERVICE DEMAND DURING THIS PERIOD AND THROUGH THE FULL YEAR 2009, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT RESPONDED TO NEARLY 49,000 9 1 1 CALLS.
BY FISCAL YEAR 25, ANNUAL CALL VOLUME HAS INCREASED TO APPROXIMATELY 82,000.
MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WE DIG A LITTLE DEEPER INTO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SERVICE CUTS AND REDUCTIONS EXPERIENCE YEAR BY YEAR.
AS YOU CAN SEE, TO NAVIGATE THE FINANCIAL CONSTRAINTS OF THE GREAT RECESSION, MULTIPLE RESOURCES INCLUDING A FIRE TRUCK, FIRE ENGINES, AND THE AMBULANCE WERE ELIMINATED.
YOU CAN SEE THE BUDGETARY CHANGES YEAR BY YEAR.
IN THE LEFT HAND COLUMN, YOU CAN SEE WHICH SERVICES WERE RESTORED BY MEASURE A AND THE FISCAL YEAR IN WHICH THE UNIT WAS PLACED BACK IN THE SERVICE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
WE HOPE THAT THIS OVERVIEW HAS BEEN HELPFUL AND I WILL NOW TURN IT OVER TO DEPUTY PLEASE FIRMLY.
WE WILL DISCUSS OUR
ENGINE EIGHT STAFFING WAS ELIMINATED DUE TO STRUCTURAL BUDGET REDUCTIONS IN FY 13.
THE STAFFING OF 12 FIREFIGHTERS ACROSS THREE SHIFTS WAS REESTABLISHED THROUGH MEASURE EIGHT FUNDING IN 2016, PROVIDING A MUCH NEEDED RESPONSE ALONG THE SECOND STREET CORRIDOR.
FIRE ENGINES ARE THE WORKHORSE OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PROVIDING BOTH FIRE SUPPRESSION AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES.
ENGINE EIGHT IS STAFFED WITH A PARAMEDIC ASSESSMENT ENGINE BRINGING TO BEAR IN LA COUNTY ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT PARAMEDIC ON ALL RESPONSES.
ENGINE 17 THAT WAS ELIMINATED IN 2013 AND STAFF TO GET IN 2019 WITH ME.
MEASURE A FUNDS HAS ALLOWED NON-STRUCTURAL STAFFING OF AN ADDITIONAL PARAMEDIC ASSESSMENT ENGINE AT STATION 17.
DURING THE ELIMINATION OF ENGINE 17, TRUCK 17 OPERATED SOLELY OUT OF STATION 17 WITHOUT A FIRE ENGINE.
STATION 17 BECAME THE ONLY SINGLE TRUCK STATION IN LONG BEACH, NOT HAVING THE KEY FEATURE THAT A FIRE ENGINE BRINGS TO BEAR ON FIRE SUPPRESSION RESPONSES, WHICH IS WATER.
THE FIRE ENGINE WITH 500 GALLONS OF WATER HOSE LINES AND THE ABILITY TO TAP INTO THE HYDRANT SYSTEM IS THE INITIAL ATTACK MECHANISM ON STRUCTURED FIRES.
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FIRES INCREASED IN SIZE AND VOLUME EXPONENTIALLY WHEN LEFT UNCHECKED.IN 2017, MEASURE A FUNDS REINSTATED THE NINTH PARAMEDIC RESCUE AMBULANCE IN THE CITY.
THIS PARAMEDIC RESCUE AMBULANCE BRINGS TO BEAR TWO FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDICS WITH FULL LA COUNTY PARAMEDIC FUNCTIONALITY AND THE ABILITY TO TRANSPORT PATIENTS TO THE HOSPITAL.
PARAMEDIC RESCUES TRANSPORTED MORE THAN 19,000 PATIENTS TO LOCAL EMERGENCY DEPARTMENTS IN 2025.
EACH POSITION IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OPERATIONS PLAYS A A CRITICAL ROLE IN THE CHAIN OF SURVIVAL.
IT'S APPARENT THAT WITH THE FUNDING FROM MEASURE A ACCOUNTING FOR MORE THAN $10 MILLION IN FIRE DEPARTMENT STAFFING FUNDING SUPPORTING 45 SWORN FIRE POSITIONS WITHOUT THESE CRITICAL FUNDS STATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY WOULD BE AFFECTED, RESULTING IN ENCLOSURES OF APPARATUS AND LOSS OF CRITICAL STAFFING THAT PROVIDE BOTH FIRE SUPPRESSION AND EMS SERVICES TO THE CITIZENS OF LONG BEACH TOTAL MEASURE A STRUCTURAL FUNDING AND FY 25 EXCEEDED $15 MILLION.
AGAIN, EVERY DOLLAR SPENT ACCOUNTS FOR KEY PERSONNEL EXPENDITURES THAT DIRECTLY RELATES TO FIRE SUPPRESSION AND EMS SERVICES TO THE CITIZENS OF THE LONG BEACH.
AS THE CITY MOVES TO MODERNIZE AND ADDRESS INFRASTRUCTURE AND FACILITY NEEDS ACROSS THE CITY DEPARTMENTS, IT HAS INVESTED IN BUILDING A NEW FIRE STATION.
DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS, A LEASE WAS PROCURED FOR A TEMPORARY STATION WHICH MAINTAINS A SYSTEMWIDE RESPONSE PROFILE AND ENSURES PROPER GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION OF FIRE DEPARTMENT RESOURCES MEASURE A PROVIDED ONETIME FUNDS TO SECURE THIS LEASE THROUGH THE 2025 YEAR HOUSING UP TO EIGHT FIREFIGHTERS DAILY.
ANTICIPATING THE OPENING OF NEW FIRE STATION NINE IN MAY, 2026.
MEASURE A HAS BEEN A KEY FOR MOVING FORWARD SUBSTANTIAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AGAIN SEEKING TO UPGRADE OR REBUILD CRITICAL CITY INFRASTRUCTURE.
THE TRAINING CENTER PROJECT THAT WAS COMPLETED IN 2024 UPGRADED THE FIRE TOWER AND PROVIDED A DA COMPLIANCE FIRE STATION 14 WAS RENOVATED AND COMPLETED IN EARLY 2025, PROVIDING GENDER ACCOMMODATION AND WORKFORCE PRIVACY AS STATED PREVIOUSLY, NEW FIRE STATION NINE IS SET TO OPEN IN JUNE OF 2026 AND WILL HOUSE ENGINE NINE, RESCUE NINE BLS NINE AND A BATTALION COMMANDER.
AN ADDITIONAL $2 MILLION TO CHANGE HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED TO THE FIRE TRAINING FACILITY, UH, PROVIDING CLASSROOMS WORKFORCE PRIVACY AND EXPANDING THE CAPABILITIES OF OUR REGIONAL TRAINING CENTER AND IS STILL IN THE PLANNING PHASE.
SO NEXT WE'D LIKE TO TURN TO THE FISCAL YEAR 26 ONE-TIME MEASURE, A FUNDED INITIATIVE.
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS COMMITTED TO BUILDING A DIVERSE WORKFORCE.
A $100,000 INVESTMENT WILL STRENGTHEN RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION EFFORTS WITH AN EMPHASIS ON WOMEN AND OTHER REPRESENTED GROUPS.
INVESTMENTS IN EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES INCLUDE $400,000 TO COVER THE COST OF SENDING FIREFIGHTERS TO A NINE MONTH STATE REQUIRED PARAMEDIC PROGRAM, ENSURING THE PARAMEDIC RANK REMAINS CONSISTENTLY FILLED.
AN ADDITIONAL 360,000 IS ALLOCATED FOR BACKGROUND CHECKS, ACADEMIES, AND ONBOARDING COSTS TO STABILIZE THE AMBULANCE OPERATOR PROGRAM.
THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS INCLUDE ONE-TIME INVESTMENTS OF $200,000 AT FIRE STATION 19 AND $380,000 AT FIRE STATION 22, WHICH WILL IMPROVE DORMITORY PRIVACY AND CREATE MORE INCLUSIVE LIVING ENVIRONMENTS FOR PERSONNEL.
ADDITIONALLY, $330,000 WILL BE USED TO EXTEND THE LEASE AT TEMPORARY FIRE STATION NINE THROUGH MARCH, 2026, ENSURING CONTINUED SERVICE COVERAGE UNTIL CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW STATION NIGHT IS COMPLETED.
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS GRATEFUL FOR CONTRIBUTED SUPPORT PROVIDED BY MEASURE A.
WE'D LIKE TO YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND READY TO ANSWER, UH, MEMBERS.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS IN THE PRESENTATION? HEY,
UH, BUT THANK YOU FOR PRESENTATION.
UM, UH, IT'S GREAT TO SEE IT ALL SUPERVISED IN ONE PLACE.
I'VE BEEN A LONG BEACH RESIDENT FOR ALMOST 40 YEARS.
IT'S NICE TO SEE HERE'S ALL THE T AND THE STATIONS, EVERYTHING.
UM, I KNOW, UH, DEPUTY CHIEF BARLEY, WE, WE'VE WORKED AT LONG SUPER COLLEGE FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS ABOUT RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION.
IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT THERE'S AN ALLOCATION, UH, FOR THE DIVERSE WORKFORCE THIS YEAR.
UM, MAYBE, UH, THERE'S A QUESTION THAT, THAT EVERYONE KNOWS ALREADY.
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ONE TIME FUNDING VERSUS ON ONGOING FUNDING AND IF YOU HAD, UH, ONGOING FUNDING THAT YOU DIDN'T USE MEASURE AID FUNDS, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? WHOEVER,
UM, AS FAR AS ONGOING FUNDING VERSUS, UH, ONE TIME FUNDING, STRUCTURAL FUNDING IS APPROVED FOR A STRUCTURAL NEEDS.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT EXAMPLES OF STAFF, WE HIRE STAFF AS A FULL-TIME STRUCTURAL TEAM.
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IN EACH AND EVERY YEAR.WHEREAS ONE TIMES OR MORE INITIATIVES THAT ARE ONE TIME FOR THEM FISCAL YEAR, UH, ONCE THAT FISCAL YEAR ENDS, THE PROGRAM ENDS.
BUT IF THERE'S LEFTOVER ONE TIME TO UNSPENT, ONE TIME, THEY ARE PRESENTED TO BE RESERVED AND REPROGRAMMED INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
SO THAT PROGRAM COULD BE WITH THE STRUCTURAL FUNDING.
THERE WAS A QUESTION OF WHAT HAPPENS AT UNSPENT.
SO IF WE HAVE A STRUCTURAL PROGRAM YET IT DIDN'T UTILIZE ALL ITS APPROVED FUNDING, THAT FUNDING WOULD FALL TO THE BOTTOM LINE OF THE MEASURE A FUND.
MEASURE A ISN'T WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND GROUP, BUT IT'S TRACKED SEPARATELY FOR THE PURPOSE OF WHAT IT'S PROPOSED TO BE USED FOR.
SO THAT WOULD HELP FALL TO THE BOTTOM LINE TO BE PROPOSED.
HOW TO REPROGRAM THAT INTO THE NEXT, UH, FISCAL YEAR.
SO WE JUST CLOSED OUT THE FISCAL YEAR AT 5 25 AND WE ARE GATHERING A REPORT TO BRING TO COUNCIL IN MID-FEBRUARY.
SO THIS COMMITTEE WILL SEE THAT CLOSEOUT OF HOW MEASURE A ENDED AT 5 25 AT OUR NEXT MEETING.
SO YOU'LL SEE THAT DEMONSTRATED THROUGH THE REPORT COUNTY EVIDENCE.
HAS ANY
AND THEN, UH, THE SUB QUESTION IS STATION 11 SCHEDULED, UPDATED, AND NOTHING ONLY BE SEEN.
WE, WE, UM, WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE FACILITY NEEDS.
UM, IT'S AN ONGOING PAPER CONVERSATION.
WE KNOW WITH, UM, PUBLIC WORKS, YOU KNOW, YOUR A, YOU KNOW, AND JUST HOW WE MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
UM, BUT, BUT IT IS BEING DISCUSSED.
AND, AND IF I CAN GO AHEAD AND JUST ASK A CLARIFICATION QUESTION.
IF YOU SAID ABOUT FUNDING THAT WOULD EXPIRE TO MEASURE AID MONIES AND WOULD CONSIDERED ITS STRUCTURAL.
SO LIKE IF THEY'RE PAYING FOR POSITIONS, IF IS IT ASSIGNED TO A SPECIFIC POSITION OR NOT? OR IS IT ASSIGNED TO A HEADCOUNT? BECAUSE IF A PERSON LEAVES AND THEN IT GOES UNFILLED, DOES IT CONSIDER TO BE UNSPENT OR IS IT JUST, IT IT ROLLS AWAY? UH, I WOULD SAY IT'S SOMEWHAT OF A MIX WHERE OUR BUDGET AND FUNDING IS NOT TIED TO A SPECIFIC PERSON.
IT'S A BUDGETED POSITION TO BUILD, UH, A PURPOSE.
SO WHEN WE HAVE MAINTENANCE, THESE ARE POSITIONS THAT NEED TO BE MAINTAINED AND IS GOING TO BE BUILT FOR THE PURPOSE, THE MEASURING FUNDS, UH, SPECIFIC PROGRAMS AS WELL.
SO I CAN USE THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY SAFETY TEAM AS WELL AS AN EXAMPLE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THERE'S AN ALLOCATION SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT PROGRAM.
BUT DUE TO JUST THE GENERAL CHALLENGES OF HIRING AND PUBLIC SAFETY, THAT TEAM HASN'T BEEN FULLY STAFFED.
SO WHEN WE ACTUALLY HAVE A REPORT LAST YEAR, THERE WAS SOME SAVINGS RECOGNIZED, MEANING IT DIDN'T UTILIZE THE WHOLE MEASURE A OF THAT PROGRAM WHERE THERE WAS SOME SAVINGS THAT FELL TO THE BOTTOM LINE.
THOSE SAVINGS ARE JUST THEM FALLING TO THE FUND FOR FUTURE DECISIONS.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, PIGGYBACK ON THAT.
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT MAY USE 24 7 STAFF.
THAT ROLE IS STILL BEING FILLED BY ANOTHER FIREFIGHTER ON AN
WELL LET ME SAY FIRST OF ALL, AS FAR AS PRESENTATION, THIS, THIS WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION AND I, I'M, I'M GLAD THAT WE COULD SEE THAT.
AND I LOVE THE WAY YOU SUMMARIZED, UH, THE CHART AND GRAPH OF THE HEADCOUNT GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN AND WHERE IT'S AT.
IT'S LIKE, AND IT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER TO SEE THAT WITHOUT MEASURE A WHERE YOU WOULD BE.
AND I, AND I DO SEE AT LEAST ON YOUR PERCENTAGE NUMBERS, THAT THE INCREASE DOES SHOW COMPETITIVE.
THAT THAT SINCE, SINCE THE DOWN EITHER NO OF 3 73 VERSUS 4 0 4, IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO SAYING WHAT WE'RE FUNDING AND IT IS AN INCREASE.
WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING SIMILAR LIKE THIS FROM THE POLICE SIDE, GOT IN MIND THE NEXT TIME THAT THEY COME AND CHAT.
AND I ALSO LIKE THE BIG SUMMARY OF THE NEXT CHART ON PAGE SIX, WHERE IT ACTUALLY SHOWED WHAT WAS LOST AND WHAT WHEN IT CAME BACK.
AND, YOU KNOW, UM, I, I WAS CURIOUS, AND THIS IS PROBABLY JUST GENERAL KNOWLEDGE WHEN YOU SAY THAT AN ENGINE WAS ELIMINATED SITTING AROUND SOMEPLACE, WHERE WAS IT SITTING AND YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I, I KNOW THE COST OF RESTORING 'CAUSE I USED TO WORK FOR THE CITY OF CULVER CITY AND OH MY GOD, I WOULD HATE THOSE BUDGETS TO SEE HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO RESTORE BACK.
BUT YEAH, SO TYPICALLY IF A FIRE ENGINE WAS ELIMINATED, IT WOULD GO INTO OUR FLEET POOL AND THEN, AND THEN WE MAINTAIN A CERTAIN NUMBER OF, OF EXTRA RIGS IN THIS, IN THE SYSTEM.
WHAT THAT ALLOWS US TO DO IS WHEN WE GET, LIKE THE WILDLAND FIRES FROM LAST YEAR, WE HAD 10 FIRE ENGINES THAT WERE OUT AT THE PALISADES AND THE EDEN FIRES AND THEN WE'RE ABLE TO BACKFILL AND STAFF OUR CITY WITH THOSE EXTRA FIRE ENGINES.
IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO PROVIDE MAINTENANCE ANNUALLY
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AND DO OUR, OUR SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE.SO WE HAVE A, A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL, UH, FLEET, UH, SPARE APPARATUS AND IT WOULD GET MOVED INTO THAT.
AND THEN WE WOULD ALSO LOOK AT FLEET REDUCTION, UH, NEEDS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND, AND ELIMINATE BASED ON THE OLDEST FIRE ENGINES, THEY WOULD GO OUT AND, AND GET TAKEN OFF THE LIST AND THEN WE WOULD KEEP THE NEWER ONES.
SO PART THE MASTER PLAN AND HAS MEASURE A EVER FUNDED A BRAND NEW FIRE ENGINE JUST DONE, IT JUST SHOWS A COUPLE RESTORATIONS BECAUSE THOSE ARE Z PRICING.
YEAH, NO, I DON'T, YEAH, DON'T BELIEVE BUT SEPARATE DEMEANOR TO CONFIRM.
IT'S ACTUALLY JUST RESTORED, UH, AND BACK INTO THE CITY.
SO IT'S DEFINITELY, UH, BEEN USEFUL TO ACTUALLY STIGMA AS PRINCIPAL POPULATION.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OH, WE HAVE ONE MORE ONE, ONE MORE QUESTION.
UM, UH, YOU CITED A STATISTIC OF THE INCREASE IN THE CALLS.
I THINK YOU SAID 45,000 TO 93,000, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SOMETHING IN THAT FALL APART MM-HMM
AND I'M WONDERING OVER THAT PERIOD IF OF PORTION OF THAT IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE ROAD IN HOMELESS POPULATION AND CALLS RELATED TO THOSE ISSUES.
AND IF SO, IF SOME OF THAT, UM, ACTIVITY WOULD BE COVERED UNDER SOME HOMELESS FUNDING BUCKETS, THAT WOULD HELP TO PHRASE SOME OF THAT, UH, THAT INCREASE.
THERE'S NO DOUBT OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS THAT WE'VE SEEN AN, AN INCREASE IN CALLS THAT ARE RELATED TO PERSONS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE STARTED TRACKING THAT.
UM, SO WE CAN KIND OF HAVE A GOOD ESTIMATE AS TO THE EFFECT OF THAT, UM, POPULATION ON OUR CALL VOLUME.
UM, WE'VE, WE'VE GENERALLY SEEN THIS, THIS TREND AND IT WAS KIND OF GOING IN THAT DIRECTION ANYWAYS.
UM, BUT YEAH, WE DO DEFINITELY KEEP TRACK OF IT.
AND AS TO SPECIAL TOOLS OF MONEY, UM, I'M NOT AWARE THAT WE HAVE LOOKED INTO TAPPING INTO THAT SPECIFICALLY, UM, AS A LINE ITEM MAYBE FROM THE STATE LEVEL DOWN.
MAYBE THERE'S ANOTHER, ANOTHER SOURCE OF, OF FUNDING THEN IF YOU HAVE THE STATISTICS TO BACK IT UP.
WE COULD TRY AND GET THE NUMBERS IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT.
I, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S REALLY IN OUR PORTFOLIO, BUT MAYBE IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
SO, UH, MADAM CLERK, IF WE CAN PLEASE CALL FOR THE VOTE TO SEE WHAT FILES REPORT.
UH, JUST FOR THE RECORD, THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.
UH, PLEASE DO WE NEED, OH YEAH, WE WILL NOW TAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UH, ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
ALRIGHT, NOW AND THERE IS NO OTHER DISCUSSION.
ALRIGHT, I THINK WE CAN PLEASE FREEZE.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A REPORT FROM CURRENT AD HOC COMMITTEE, DISCUSS ANTICIPATED AD HOC COMMITTEES FOR UPCOMING PROJECTS AND IF APPROPRIATE TO TAKE ACTION TO DISSOLVE OR CREATE AD HOC COMMITTEE.
AND MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND FOR THIS ITEM A, YOU BEEN MOVED BY MEMBER OCHOA AND VICE CHAIR HOWARD.
UM, AND WE ONLY HAVE ONE AD HOC REPORT TO REPORT FOR
UM, UH, WELL YOU, WE TALKED ABOUT THE, UH, THE, UH, AD HOC REPORT THAT WE HAD, UH, PREVIOUSLY, AND THE MAYOR CA CAME IN AND SPOKE TO US ABOUT THAT.
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP OUR
SO, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO AGENDIZE THAT FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
AND WE WILL BE SURE TO GET, UH, THE MATERIAL TO STAFF IN PLENTY OF TIME SO THAT IT CAN GO OUT WITH THE, THE, THE MATERIALS IN ADVANCE FOR EVERYBODY TO REVIEW.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO, THE MAYOR DID CHALLENGE US TO COME UP WITH CREATIVE SOLUTIONS, WITH IDEAS, WITH, UM, UH, CREATIVE THINKING.
AND, UM, SO, UM, UH, AND THEN WHEN WE, IT DOES COME INTO THE AGENDA, UM, FOR THE NEXT MEETING, WE'D LIKE TO REQUEST WITH OUR FELLOW COMMISSION MEMBERS THAT YOU DO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT BEFOREHAND SO THAT WE CAN,
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WE CAN HAVE A, UM, PRODUCTIVE DISCUSSION ABOUT IT AT THAT NEXT MEETING.SO, UM, AND I GUESS IF WE, IF Y'ALL WANNA HAVE ANY CONVERSATION WITH DISCUSSION, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS IS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW ONE AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE'S PURPOSE WAS ABOUT DRAFTING A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL ABOUT MEASURE A FUNDS AND ITS USE.
SO RIGHT NOW IT'S BEEN MYSELF AND JAN.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER THINGS THAT THIS COMMITTEE WANTS TO DO.
'CAUSE IT ALSO SAYS AS THIS ITEM, WHETHER WE ANTICIPATE HAVING ANY OTHER AD HOC COMMITTEES TO DISCUSS, OR EVEN WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS IN THE PAST ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE BONDS BETTER AND HOW THEY'RE BEING SPENT, WHICH WE KNOW AT THE NEXT MEETING IS KIND OF GONNA BE A WORKSHOP SLASH MEETING TO DISCUSS THE BONDS AND HOW THOSE ARE GROWING.
UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE, IF IF ANYBODY SEES FIT, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE AS A COMMITTEE WE CAN'T DO A LOT HERE ANYWAY AND WE DON'T HAVE REALLY ANYTHING OTHER THAN REVIEWING REPORTS AND SAYING, YEAH, IT'S BENDING THE WAY MEASURE A IS SUPPOSED TO BE SPENT.
BUT, UH, OUR ONLY THING IS IT SOUNDS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY THING IS MAKING SURE, I THINK WE'VE ALL COME TO ACCEPT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS AND THERE, AND THERE'S, AT THE WAY WE'RE GOING, WE'RE NOT, I MEAN, IT'S A BILLION DOLLAR GAP AND WE'RE ONLY PUTTING A LITTLE SEED IN THERE WHETHER WE WANNA HAVE ANY KIND OF CONVERSATION ABOUT COMING UP WITH A PLAN OR IDEA OF HOW TO MAKE THAT MORE PUBLIC.
THAT PEOPLE ARE AWARE THAT THERE'S AN INFRASTRUCTURE GAP.
BECAUSE IF THE PUBLIC AND COMMUNITY DOESN'T BELIEVE THERE'S A GAP, THEY'RE JUST THINKING THE CITY'S NOT SPENDING REPAIRING THE POTHOLES.
EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT CLARK, YOU KNOW, BUT WHY AREN'T THEY TAKING CARE OF ANYTHING? AND SO WE GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW AND I DON'T KNOW WE WANNA DO THAT.
OR WE GONNA JUST COME AND HAVE MEETINGS AND STANDARD AND JUST KEEP WALKING, MOVING AND NOT DO ANYTHING.
SO THOUGHTS ABOUT EITHER THE ONE AD HOC THAT WE HAVE TODAY OR A NEED FOR ANY OTHER CONVERSATION, UH, THAT WE MAY NEED THE GROUP YOU HAVE.
UM, CAN I ASK THE QUESTION? SURE.
UH, CAN YOU GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THE CURRENT AD HOC AND WHAT WAS THE RESULT AND WHAT STARTED THE NEED FOR IT VERSUS WHAT WAS HELPING? UM, SURE.
I THINK THAT THE COMMITTEE AND CONVERSATION WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP MOVE FORWARD OF WHAT WE UNDERSTOOD TO BE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE, NOT HAVING ENOUGH FUNDS.
AND SO WE CREATED AN AD HOC COMMITTEE BECAUSE WE TO DRAFT A RECOMMENDATION OR COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL ABOUT THE USE OF MEASURE A FUNDS 'CAUSE THAT'S ALL THIS COMMITTEE CAN DO.
UM, AND SO WE DRAFTED A LETTER THAT BASICALLY SHOWED THE HISTORY OF THE SWITCHING FROM THE ORIGINAL INCEPTION OF MEASURE AID FUNDS, WHERE IT WAS SOLD AS AN INFRASTRUCTURE AND SUPPORT AND SAFETY SERVICES TO MAINTAIN IT OR EXPAND SAFETY SERVICES.
'CAUSE OUR SAFETY SERVICES WERE REALLY DONE.
SO THE, THE MEMO, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW IT, THAT WENT TO COUNCIL ALONG WITH REPORTS THAT JUST EMPHASIZED THAT AND EMPHASIZED THAT AT THE BEGINNING AS THE MONEY CAME IN, ABOUT 20% WENT TO SAFETY SERVICES AND, AND THE REST WENT TO INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND IT IS NOW FLIPPED WHERE IT'S NOW 70 PLUS PERCENT OF MEASURE A IS GOING TO SAFETY SERVICES.
AND NOW 30, 30% BIG PICTURE IS GOING TO, UH, MEASURE A AND WE JUST SAID MEASURE 80 OR THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS MORE MONEY SOMEWHERE SOMEHOW.
AND THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATION.
THAT'S ALL THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO THE COUNCIL.
AND I THINK WE JUST GAVE THEM THE STAFF REPORTS.
UM, IT WENT ALMOST TOO LATE, IF I COULD SAY.
IT WAS AT THE VERY END OF THE YET IT, IT, IT WAS AT THE, AT THE VERY END WHEN COUNCIL WAS LISTENING TO EVERYONE ELSE ABOUT, RIGHT.
WELL, WE DO DO A, UH, AUGUST IS OUR ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITY.
SO WE DO DO A HOST OF, UM, UH, BUDGET OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE MEETINGS, WHICH IS WHEN THEY SOLICIT INFORMATION, OUR BUDGET HEARINGS AT COUNCIL AND OUR
SO AUGUST IS A REALLY PRIME TIME FOR ENGAGEMENT OUR COUNCIL.
SO I WAS ASKED, I WENT TO GO PRESENT THE REPORT, IT WAS GIVEN TO COUNSEL AND I WAS GIVEN 60 SECONDS TO SPEAK ON TO ADDRESS THE LETTER TO THE PUBLIC.
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UM, I JUST SAID, YOU GOT A LETTER, PLEASE READ IT.THAT'S ALL I COULD SAY IN 60 SECONDS.
UM, SO I GUESS RIGHT NOW IT'S THE NEXT STAGE OF WHAT DO WE DO, WHAT DO WE DO AND WHAT DO WE SAY ABOUT MEASURE A'S UTILIZATION? WE, WE KNOW THE CITY NEEDS IT TO MAINTAIN SAFETY SERVICES, BUT, UH, WE, WE JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT AND HOW INFRASTRUCTURE, DON'T FORGET ABOUT PRESCRIPTION.
YOU GOTTA COME UP WITH A MASTER PLAN.
UM, N UH, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE REPORTS IN FRONT OF US, CAN YOU REFRESH MY MEMORY FOR SOMETHING LIKE THE, THE, THE BUILDING OF THE NEW FIRE STATION, UM, JUST FOR STATION NINE? IS THAT WHAT THAT IS? MM-HMM
DOES THAT FALL UNDER FIRE OR DOES THAT FALL UNDER INFRASTRUCTURE? THAT IS AN INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT THAT IS A PERMANENT FACILITY STRUCTURE.
SO IT'S, IT'S JUST FALLING UNDER INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO WE HAVE IT UNDER OUR CIP UH,
ARE, ARE THERE SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT COULD BE IN SOME IN FIRE AND SAFETY THAT ARE, WOULD BE MAINTENANCE UP, YOU KNOW, UPGRADES, KINDS OF THINGS THAT ARE RELATED TO FACILITY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE, THAT ARE IN, IN THAT, THOSE CATEGORIES THAT COULD MAYBE BE RECLASSED OR, OR, OR SHOWN ON THE BOTTOM TO MAYBE SHOW THAT THERE IS AN ADJUSTED INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, PROGRAM THAT IS MAYBE NOT BEING TOTALLY, UM, CLEARLY PRESENTED.
I HAVE TO KIND OF THINK THROUGH WHAT'S REALLY BEING ASKED, BUT LET ME TRY TO REPHRASE IT.
ARE WE SITTING LIKE THERE'S JUST NOT CLEAR? YEAH, I I THINK MAYBE IT'S MORE OF LIKE THE FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS FOR CITY FACILITIES VERSUS HOW WE'RE DOING THIS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT PRESENTS IN CATEGORIES WHERE THEY SHOW CERTAIN FACILITIES, SHOW CERTAIN AREAS.
SO HOW'S PRESENTED AS MORE OF SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT TO SAY WE CAN GIVE UPDATES ON CERTAIN CATEGORIES TO SHOW DETAILS OF IT.
BUT AS FAR AS THE REPRESENTATIVE OF IT, I, I THINK IT'S A GENERAL COMMENT THAT WHEN WE DO BEST MEASURE A, WE DO SHOW MEASURE A AS A WHOLE.
AND THEN THE TWO MAIN CATEGORIES THAT I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS SPLIT IN THIS WHAT IS REALLY OPERATIONAL, JUST WHAT IS REALLY CAPITAL INVESTMENTS WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN, WHICH OUR OPERATIONAL, THE ANNUAL PLAN, THE OPERATION STRUCTURAL IS THE ONE TIMES THAT WE SEE INVESTED IN PUBLIC SAFETY AND INFRASTRUCTURE SUPPORT ITEMS SUCH AS LIKE BATHROOM DOOR RESTORATIONS AND SMALLER PROJECTS.
WHEREAS THE INFRASTRUCTURE ARE MORE LARGER PROJECTS THAT NEED FUNDING OVER YEARS BECAUSE IT'S NOT A ONE YEAR PROJECT THAT IS SPENT BY, IT TAKES TIME AND IT'S INVESTED IN THAT COVID.
I'M GONNA GO BACK INTO SOME OF THOSE OLDER REPORTS AND, AND TAKE A LOOK.
I MEAN, I MEAN WE KNOW THERE'S BEEN DRIFT.
THERE'S THERE'S BEEN DRIFT, BUT I JUST HAVE THIS FEELING THAT MAYBE IT'S, THERE'S, THERE IS A, A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THERE THAN WE THINK AFTER THERE IS, IT STILL WOULD BE MORE LOPSIDED THAN WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT IT WOULD.
BUT, UM, ANYWAY, I'M COULD GO THOUGHT MAYBE I'LL SEND YOU OKAY.
MEMBER INTO ADD INTO, UM, MY, MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, BACK WHEN RIE WAS PASSED, SO, SO ADJOINING COUNCIL EITHER ORDINANCE OR DIRECTION ON THE INITIAL SPEND, UM, AND I KNOW THAT WHATEVER, YOU KNOW,
SO THEY'RE NOT SAYING IT WAS THE CITY.
UM, BUT IT WASN'T THERE SOME INITIAL, UM, DIRECTION.
I THINK THE COUNCIL AT THAT TIME HAD DECIDED FOR SOME INITIAL FUNDING BE SPENT VERSUS WHERE WE'RE AT NOW.
AND I THINK NO ONE WOULD ARGUE THAT PUBLIC SAFETY IS MORE IMPORTANT.
UH, WELL, BUT UNDERSTAND THAT THERE HAS TO BE A BALANCE.
UH, AND, AND WE WE'RE NOT FAULT WITH DECIDED MANAGEMENT PARTNER, BUT CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE INITIAL DECISION VERSUS WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY? YEAH.
UM, AS FAR AS WHEN MEASURE A WAS PASSED BACK IN 2016 WHEN IT WAS VOTED ON, WHAT WE BROUGHT INTO IT, THERE WAS AN ORIGINAL PLAN WHERE THERE WAS AN IDEA TO, UH, FUND AND MAINTAIN PUBLIC SAFETY.
THAT'S WHERE MAJORITY OF THAT MAINTAINING PUBLIC SAFETY CAME IN BECAUSE OTHERWISE THOSE POSITIONS WOULD'VE BEEN LOST ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE.
THERE WAS ACTUALLY AN ORIGINAL PLAN.
WHEREAS IF YOU LOOK AT OUR FULL PLAN FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, IT IS A VERY LONG LIST OF PROJECTS.
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BUT OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT DOES A GREAT JOB AT TRYING TO ORGANIZE WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL PLAN THAT WAS ACTUALLY PART OF MEASURE A AND WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THAT PLAN AND WHAT HAS BEEN ADDED TO IT WITHIN THOSE FIRST FEW YEARS.THEN WE HAD THIS NEW TRANSITION TO A NEW FIVE YEAR PLAN, WHICH STARTED AT 5 20 30, WHICH IS NOW WHAT IS BEING BROUGHT UP AS THE ELEVATE 28 PLAN, WHICH TAKES US FROM 23 TO 27.
SO WHEN WE HAD THAT ORIGINAL PLAN, THOSE WERE STUCK THROUGH TO FOLLOW THROUGH AND REPORT TO THIS COMMITTEE AS THAT PLAN WENT THROUGH.
AND THIS COMMITTEE BODY ITSELF ACTUALLY ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL ENHANCEMENTS TO THE REPORTING TO IT.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET MORE DETAILS ON THAT REPORT TO SHOW NOT JUST WHAT THE PROJECTS WERE, BUT STATUS AND WHICH ONES WERE COMPLETE.
SO WE HAVE ELEVATED THE, UH, THE REPORTING TO, TO KIND OF SHOW THAT SIDE OF THE, UH, ORIGINAL PLAN.
AND THEN, UM, I, I'VE BEEN READING NEWSPAPER ARTICLES ABOUT THE LITIGATION THE CITY HAD AT THE STATE ON AN ACCELERATE A PERCENTAGE OF, UH, THE SALES TAX REVENUE SOONER THAN TWO YEARS SOONER THAN WHAT WAS ALLOWED.
'CAUSE THERE WASN'T AN ANTICIPATION THAT THE COUNTY WOULD DO AWAY MEASURE HI THINK AT THE TIME IT DID.
BUT THEN THEY MEASURE A, DO WE KNOW WHAT THE ANTICIPATED NEW FUNDING THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE IN ABOUT TWO YEARS? AND THAT WOULD BUILD TOWARDS INFRASTRUCTURE OR AN INCREASE INFRASTRUCTURE UNDER VENTURE, A
AS FAR AS THE, UH, I'LL TAKE THAT.
UM, UNDER THE, UH, CURRENT STATE OF AFFAIRS WITH THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF AT FEE ADMINISTRATION, THE MEASURE A TRANSACTIONS IN LOOSE TAX RATE WILL GO UP FROM ITS CURRENT 0.75% TO A FULL 1% ON OCTOBER 1ST, 2027.
SO THE FIRST DAY OF FISCAL YEAR 28.
AND, UM, THAT'S LIKELY TO RAISE $23 MILLION A YEAR FOR MEASURE A AS THEY HOLD.
SO IT'LL BE A ONE THIRD INCREASE, RIGHT.
THERE'LL BE A ONE THIRD INCREASE IN THE AMOUNT OF MEASURE A THAT THE CITY COUNCILORS, UM, WITH ADVICE AND PERSPECTIVE FROM THIS GROUP.
AND THE PUBLIC CAN ALLOCATE BETWEEN, UM, MAINTAINING AND EXPANDING PUBLIC SAFETY AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
I GUESS THAT ROUGHLY WOULD IT BE UNDER OR THE, THE NEW REVENUE COMING IS NOT UNDER THE ELEVATE 28 CIP.
IT'LL BE SOME NEW CIP AT THAT TIME.
AT THAT TIME WE'LL BE TRANSITIONING TO A NEW PLAN.
I SEE A PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT SMILING IN ANTICIPATION IF THEY'RE THINKING THROUGH IT.
SO THE MEASURE A PLAN WAS DECIDED THROUGH AT Y 27, THAT EXTRA, UH, FUNDING IS CURRENTLY UNALLOCATED, WHICH THE MAYOR HAS GIVEN US DIRECTION AS PART OF THAT 26TH BUDGET TO START PROGRESS ON THE NEXT FIVE YEAR PLAN, WHICH WILL INCLUDE WHAT MEASURE A IS AVAILABLE FOR THE PLAN.
AND THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD BRING THAT BACK AS FAR AS THAT APPLIED 28 BUDGET DEVELOPMENT TO START PROPOSING WHAT THAT PLAN WOULD LOOK LIKE OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS AS WE CLOSE OUT THIS EVENT.
AND THAT PROBABLY THEN COULD BE AN AREA WHERE WE COULD EMPHASIZE THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS.
BECAUSE ONE THING TO EXPAND ON IS ENTRY IS CORRECT THAT THERE WAS A LIST OF PROJECTS THAT PEOPLE WERE SAYING WE NEED TO DO, AND PUBLIC WORKS HAS MADE MAJOR PROGRESS IN GETTING ALL THOSE THINGS DONE.
BUT, BUT THE ONE THING THAT WE HAVE FOUND AND DISCOVERED OVER THIS PAST YEAR IS THAT THE STATE OF ALL THE DIFFERENT STUFF, THE SCORES FOR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, IT'S NOT GOING UP.
IT'S IT'S COMING DOWN AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S STILL GOING DOWN NOT AS FAST AS IT WAS ANTICIPATED, BUT IT'S STILL GOING DOWN.
SO THE QUESTION IS HOW AND WHAT DO WE DO TO TRY TO GIVE MORE MONEY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE TO GET IT UP? AND THAT'S WHY THERE WAS A CONVERSATION ABOUT BONDS AND, AND MAYBE A PROPERTY TAX.
I THINK THE WAY THEY WORDED THAT DIDN'T WORK.
AND SO PEOPLE WANNA BOOK FOR ANY PROPERTY TAX RIGHT NOW.
TWO YEARS AGO WE DID BECAUSE WE WERE ALL HAPPY AND WE THOUGHT THINGS WERE GREAT, BUT TODAY THEY'RE SAYING SCHOOLS YEAH, THE SCHOOLS GOT IT.
YOU GUYS GOT IT, YOU GUYS GOT IT TWICE.
BUT, BUT THE REALITY OR THE COLLEGES GOT IT BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE FEELING GOOD ABOUT THE ECONOMY AND EVERYTHING AND, AND YEAH, WE WANNA SUPPORT EDUCATION IN OUR, AND I THINK THEY WOULD LOVE TO SAY, YEAH, WE WANNA SUPPORT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT NOT TODAY, MAYBE TWO YEARS FROM NOW.
SEE, BUT ANYWAY, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT EVEN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE KNOW WAS SAYING IS THE CONDITION OF SOME OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE CONTINUES TO GO DOWN, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE PUMPING, WE'RE NOT PUMPING ENOUGH TO STOP.
IS THAT THE, UH, CITY AUDITOR REPORT? THAT INFRASTRUCTURE STAFF? THE, THE, NO, THE CITY AUDITOR'S REPORT BASICALLY JUST STATED IT CONFIRMED THE NUMBERS OF WHERE THE MONEY WAS BEING
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SPENT.SO IT WAS A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, THERE WAS REALLY NO OPINION ABOUT WHERE IT SHOULD BE OR HOW, AND I DON'T THINK IT ADDRESSED, IT DIDN'T ADDRESS, UH, THE INFRASTRUCTURE QUA, UH, SCHOOLERS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT.
YEAH, IT DIDN'T THAT THAT, YEAH.
SO WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR WHEN THE NEXT ONE HAPPENS AND WE'LL HELP YOU COMPARE THE TWO AND SEE WHAT IT'S GOING, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY FOR THE BUILDINGS, I THINK THEY'RE SEEN SOME IMPROVEMENT ON, UH, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, PA SITE, UH, PAVING AND THE, THE ALLEYWAYS WAS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST IMPROVEMENT, BUT, AND, UH, SIDEWALKS BUT NOT, NOT PAVE.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ONLY KEEPING THE ONE MOVING FORWARD.
SO NOW I GUESS I STILL NEED TO ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, MADAM CLERK.
BEFORE WE DO THAT, I WAS JUST GONNA GET CLARITY ON EXACTLY WHAT, SO I, I JUST TOOK A NOTE THAT WE'RE GONNA KEEP THE ACTIVE AD HOC COMMITTEE, WHICH WAS THE LETTER WRITING COMMITTEE THAT WAS USED FOR YEAH.
SO WE'RE GONNA KEEP THAT ONE ACTIVE.
YOU SAID YOU HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM FOR THE NEXT MEETING THROUGH THAT COMMITTEE.
IS THAT STILL THE PLAN? THAT'S THE PLAN.
AND IT'S RELEVANT TO THE RECOMMENDATION LETTER THAT IT WAS PREVIOUSLY THE TASK OR THIS AD HOC? YES, YES.
WHAT'S THE NEXT RECOMMENDATION? OKAY, SO THAT IS STILL THE INTENT OF THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE LETTER, RIGHT? MEASURE A USE ON FUTURE ORDER.
UH, OR ARE WE GONNA VOTE ON THE, THAT
UM, DID WE ESTABLISH THE AD HOC COMMITTEE BY VOTE? WE DID, RIGHT? WE DID, HUH? YEAH, WE DID.
SO IF WE WANTED TO GET RID OF IT, I GUESS WE, WE WOULD SAY AS A COMMITTEE WE WANNA GET RID OF IT.
I BELIEVE IT MAY BE A DIFFERENT TOPIC.
SO THE BEST APPROACH WOULD BE TO DEVELOP THE RECOMMENDATION LETTER AD LOG AND THEN CREATE A NEW ONE RELATED TO THE SPECIFIC TOPIC OF THE AGENDA ITEM THAT YOU WANNA BRING FORWARD.
WELL, WE CAN HAVE MULTIPLE AD HOCS SO THAT AD HOC COULD STAY UNTIL YOU NEED TO PICK THAT UP AGAIN.
THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE IT IS THE SAME TOPIC.
IT'S ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL BASED ON MEASURE OR OF MEASURE A USE FUNDS.
SO CHAIR, I BELIEVE THE LAST, UM, AD HOC WAS THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON FY 26 PROPOSED BUDGET.
SO IT'S LIKE A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC AND NARROW THAN OKAY.
WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO SPEAK ON, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO THEN IF IT'S 27, YEAH, YEAH.
SO NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FUTURE USE GENERAL FUNDS.
SO THEN, THEN SINCE FISCAL YEAR 26, BUDGET IS DONE.
WOULD WE THEN CONSIDERED TO BE CLOSED? YOU WOULD NEED TO DISSOLVE IT SO WE CAN AMEND TO DISSOLVE.
WE, YOU WOULD JUST NEED TO MOVE TO AMEND TO DISSOLVE THE FY 26 PROPOSED BUDGET AD HOC.
AND THEN IN THE EVENT THAT YOU WANT TO CREATE A NEW AD HOC, THAT CAN ALSO BE DONE TODAY.
WELL THEN I, I, I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD, ESPECIALLY BEING IN LIFE WITH, RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GETTING SO MUCH MONEY AND THERE'S A POTENTIAL OF NEW MONEY COMING IN THAT'S NOT BUDGETED THAT IF THERE'S A WAY TO ENCOURAGE TO KIND OF DO A, A CONTINUED SPLIT AND SUPPORT INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO I, AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IN ADC COMMUNITY THAT CAN EXPLORE AND DRAFT A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL, ESPECIALLY AS IT'S GETTING READY FOR NEXT YEAR TO BE THINKING ABOUT NEXT, YOU KNOW, FISCAL YEAR 27, WE WANNA MAKE IT A A LITTLE BIT MORE GENERAL SO THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT DISSOLVING AND RECREATING.
SO IT WOULD BE, SO DO WE SAY THAT THE AD HOC COMMITTEE IS ABOUT DRAFTING RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL ON MEASURE A USE OR MEASURE A FUNDS FUTURE FUNDS? I WOULD SUGGEST DOING IT FOR A SPECIFIC TIMEFRAME JUST BECAUSE AN AD HOC IS MEANT TO BE TEMPORARY.
SO ONCE YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED YOUR TASK OR YOUR GOAL, THEN YOU WOULD DISSOLVE AND THEN CREATE YOUR NEW AD HOC FOR YOUR NEXT TOPIC OR GOAL.
SO WE CAN CHANGE IT TO FY 27 LIKE WE DID FOR THE PREVIOUS AD HOC.
WELL, BUT, BUT I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY THE, THE BIG PICTURE AREA WHERE THERE CAN BE ANY CHANGE.
BECAUSE NEXT YEAR WE KNOW FOR A
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FACT THAT THE CITY IS HURTING FINANCIAL.WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THERE'S GONNA BE SOME MAJOR CUTS AND I THINK I'M HEARING ALREADY 5% ACROSS THE BOARD, EVERYBODY, RIGHT? SO OR WHATEVER.
YOU'VE HEARD THAT, RIGHT? EVERYBODY'S HEARD? NO, I'M THE CFO.
WELL, WE'RE HEARING ALREADY AMONGST, OR, OR AT LEAST SEVERAL PEOPLE ARE SAYING THIS, BUT THERE'S GONNA BE SOME MAJOR CUTS.
SO THAT, THAT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN REALLY DO ABOUT, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE SCHOOL YEAR 27.
WELL, I, I, I DON'T THINK IT'S A BAD IDEA.
MAYBE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS WE HAVE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE.
WE, WE USE IT MAYBE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
WE CLOSE IT OUT AND THEN FOR THE NEXT YEAR WE ESTABLISH A NEW ONE.
MAYBE THAT BECOMES PART OF OUR REVIEW EACH YEAR.
AND THAT WAY WE ALWAYS HAVE ONE THAT'S
SO THAT'D BE HOW, THAT'S HOW WE COMMUNICATE AND BE INVOLVED IN THE BUDGET PROCESS.
SO DO WE WANT TO MAKE THAT AD HOC FOR THE RECOMMENDATION LETTER FOR THE BUDGET? AND THEN DO WE WANT TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE TO KIND OF COME UP WITH SOME OF THE IDEAS FOR HOW THE MONEY IS SPENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT? YEAH, I, I LIKE THE FISCAL YEAR 27, BUT MAYBE WE COULD CREATE A SECOND ONE THAT STARTS EXPLORING THE 2027 FUNDS, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY GONNA BE A 2028 MONEY, RIGHT?
WE'RE, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT CURRENT SPEND OR PAST SPEND.
ARE WE SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT FUTURE SPEND THAT DOESN'T EXIST YET? OR FUTURE BUDGETS THAT HAVE
AUGUST SAYS
WE'RE LOOKING AT PAST SPEND OR FUTURE SPEND WITH THIS COMMITTEE.
I THINK IT'S BOTH BECAUSE IT SAYS RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE USE OF THE ROUTINE REV.
SO IF, IF, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE USE IT? HOW ARE WE USING IT, HOW WILL WE USE IT? CLARIFY OTHER ONES.
I MEAN IT ME, TO ME, THE USE OF FUNDS IS NOT ABOUT THE TAX, IT'S ABOUT CURRENT IN THE FUTURE.
PATH IS IT'S ALREADY DONE, PAST IS DONE ALLOCATED.
ITS, OR, AND THERE IS DONE, IT GETS TO THE HEART OF THE COMMITTEE, WHICH IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS IN LINE WITH THE INITIAL MISSION OF THE MEASURE A HAD PEOPLE IN OUR REPORT RIGHT NOW WAS FOR, TO SEE, THINK ABOUT IT.
THAT HAPPENED FAST, RIGHT? YEAH.
THE REPORT THAT WE'RE SENDING IS JUST BASICALLY SAYING WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR TO REVIEW THE USE OF FUNDS WHERE, AND WHAT WE GET IS, YOU KNOW, WE NORMALLY GET FIRE COMING IN AND TELLING US, HEY, HERE'S OUR NEEDS AND, AND WHAT WE USE THE MONEY POLICE COMES IN AND SAYS THE SAME THING.
AND THEN, AND THEN PUBLIC WORKS COMES SEVERAL TIMES TALKING ABOUT THE SPECIFIC THINGS OF BUILDINGS AND, AND, AND, AND THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT LOTS OF CAPITAL PROJECTS COMING.
ARE YOU GONNA FOLLOW, I WAS GOING TO, UM, READ OUR BYLAWS, BUT I THINK THAT IS, UH, SO KIND KIND OF TO YOUR QUESTION.
WE RECEIVED THE ACTIVITY REPORT, WHICH IS A REVIEW OF OUR PREVIOUS YEAR, UM, ANNUAL WORK REPORT OF THIS ACTIVITIES OF THE PREVIOUS YEAR TO OUR MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.
SO THAT WAS KIND OF WHAT TODAY WAS DOING A YEAR IN REVIEW.
BUT THE DUTIES OF THE CAC ARE, UH, TO ACHIEVE ITS PURPOSE TO CAC BE ENGAGE IN ANY OF THE VOLUME ACTIVITIES, RECEIVE AND REVIEW PERIODIC REPORTS PREPARED BY FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT IN CONNECTION WITH THE ANALYSIS OF THE USE OF TUT REVENUES, RECEIVE AND REVIEW COPIES OF THE CITY'S ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORTS AND THE, AND ANY ASSOCIATED AUDITS REVIEW PROJECTS FUNDED WITH TT REVENUE AND RECEIVED PERIODIC UPDATES FROM CITY STAFF ON THE STATUS OF THOSE PROJECTS.
PROVIDE PERIODIC REPORTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON THE CITY'S USE OF TT REVENUES.
AND THAT'S KIND OF, I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LETTER RECOGNITION.
AND ONE THING THAT THE FINANCIAL GROUP GIVES US IS NOT ONLY DO THEY SHOW THE HISTORY AND CURRENT, BUT THEN THEY KIND OF SHOW A LITTLE BIT OF, WELL, HERE'S WHAT WE FORECAST THE REVENUE TO LOOK LIKE.
AND THEN FROM THERE WE START TO COMMENT, WELL HERE'S WHAT HOPEFULLY THE SPENDING IS GONNA LOOK LIKE, BUT WHAT THAT RECOMMENDATION IS, I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE, YEAH, I GUESS THE QUESTION, UM, WHY IT'S REVENUE RECOMMENDATION DOESN'T, CAN'T
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BE IN THE REGULAR REPORTING PROCESS VERSUS THERE THAT'S A ACTIVITY REPORT REFERRING TO THAT.WELL, YEAH, I MEAN THE, THERE'S MULTIPLE COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE TO THE COUNCIL AND MAYOR.
SO YOU MANAGER TWO TIMES A YEAR.
I SEEN THEM AT MINIMUM HOME FEW OF THE PAST YEAR, BUT OTHER THAN BYLAW, THEY PROVIDE PERIODICAL REPORTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON THE CITY'S USE OF TWO.
I THINK IN THE LAST YEAR, THIS COMMITTEE HAD DECIDED TO DO IT IN CON OCCURRENCE WITH OUR BUDGET PROCESS.
SO THEY KIND TIMED THE WRITING OF THAT LETTER AND CREATION
AND WAS THERE ANY OTHER TIME THAT THIS COMMITTEE DRAFTED A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
SO THIS COMMITTEE'S NEVER REALLY SPOKEN TO COUNSEL.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S PART OF MY NEGATIVITY.
'CAUSE I DID NOT KNOW THE PROCESS OF HOW TO GET THERE TO SPEAK TO COUNSEL.
AND SO WE TRACKED THE LETTER AND I WAS HOPING THAT I COULD AT LEAST HAVE THREE MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT THE LETTER A LITTLE BIT.
I MEAN, I, AND THAT'S ONE THING THAT'S AN INTERESTING PROCESS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT THAT WHAT IS IS, IS THE SYSTEM BROKE WHEN THE CITY HAS COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES, WHEN DO THEY GET TO GO SPEAK TO COUNCIL OR DO THEY HAVE TO STAND IN LINE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE AND THEN FILL OUT AND THEN THERE'S TOO MANY SPEAKERS AND YOU LIMITED TO 60 SECONDS? SO THE COUNT, THIS COMMITTEE, THE ONLY WAY WE CAN TALK TO COUNCIL MEMBERS IS THROUGH A LETTER THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER TO MEN.
SO WE, WE SEND IT TO THE CITY MANAGER.
THE CITY MANAGER THAT PUTS A, A COVER SHEET ON IT AND THEN PASSES IT ON, RIGHT.
AND WE CAN'T TALK TO COUNCIL INDIVIDUALLY BECAUSE THAT WILL VIOLATE THE BROWN ACT SERIALLY MAJORITY.
THERE'S THE ONLY ONE WAY TO TALK TO COUNCIL.
THEY CAN HAVE SUBCOMMITTEES, YOU KNOW, TO TALK TO THE BUDGET CHAIR AND GET ON THERE.
SUBCOMMITTEE AGENDA PROBABLY COULD GET MORE TIME THAN THE FULL PACKED REGULAR COUNSEL OF GENERAL.
UM, WELL WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR ADVICE ON THAT AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT PROCESS.
AND MAYBE THAT COULD BE A PROCESS OF HOW THAT WE CAN THEN AT LEAST SHARE MORE WHERE IT'S WHERE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WHAT WE KNOW NOW AND GET SOME INPUT FEEDBACK, OR AT LEAST HAVE A LITTLE DIALOGUE GOING.
I, I THINK I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE WHERE IT'S GOING.
I LOVE OUR SAFETY SERVICES AND I DEFINITELY WANNA SUPPORT THAT.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR BUILDINGS DON'T FALL ON US.
AND, AND THAT OUR STREETS, ESPECIALLY BY 2028, WE WANT OCEAN TO BE BEAUTIFUL AND THEY COME IN NOT ONE SIDE'S GOOD.
THIS SITE COMING THIS WAY IS BAD, BUT GOING TO DOWNTOWN IS BAD.
GOING THAT WAY IS PRETTY GOOD.
UM,
UM, BUT IT'S BEYOND OUR, OUR SKILL TO WORK ON EVERY STREET.
BUT I, I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF A, THE COMMITTEE FOCUSED ON THE BUDGET AND THE PC DEFENSE WITH THE BUDGET.
AND IF THAT'S A MOTIONS AS A SECOND COMMITTEE SHOWN ON VERSUS JUST DISCUSSION WITHOUT EVIDENCE, OFFICIAL RATIFICATION AND BRING IT BACK NEXT TIME WITH
WHAT, WHEN IS OUR MEETING IN APRIL? IT IS APRIL, I'M SORRY.
SO WE HAVE APRIL 2ND, AND THEN THAT GIVES TIME FOR FEEDBACK AND THEN THE NEXT MEETING AFTER THAT IS WHEN I'M SURE WE'RE GONNA WANNA EDIT SOON.
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED LAST TIME.
AND THEN HOW DO WE DECIDE WHO IS ON THE APO? SO I THINK THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE, WE'LL HAVE TO DISSOLVE FISCAL CLEAR 26 IS, UH, COMMITTEE, SO WE'LL MAKE THAT MOTION AND CLOSE THAT UP RE OR CREATE THE SAME CONCEPT FOR FISCAL 27TH.
AND THEN I THINK WE WOULD DETERMINE WHO THE, YES, YOU CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ON WHO WOULD LIKE TO, UH, PARTICIPATE IN THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE.
SO IT WOULD ONLY BE TO A MEMBERS.
SO DO WE WANNA START THE PROCESS FOR THE DISSOLUTION? UM, SO IT WOULD ALL BE IN THE SAME AMENDED MOTION? YEAH.
SO THE ORIGINAL MAKER WAS A, UH, MEMBER OCHOA, AND THE SECONDER WAS VICE CHAIR HOWARD.
SO IF THEY APPROVE THESE AMENDMENTS, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH, UM, AMENDED MOTION.
BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD A MOTION ABOUT ANY OF THEM.
ALL THIS WAS, WAS, UH, THE MOTION WAS TO,
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UH, FILE, UH, UM, RECEIVE AND FILE A REPORT FROM CURRENT AD HOC COMMITTEE.OH, I GUESS THEY DID DISCUSS ANTICIPATED AD HOC COMMITTEES WERE COMING.
AND TAKE ACTION TO D INVOLVE OR CREATE AD HOC COMMITTEES SO WE CAN JUST POST IT AS FRONT OF ME.
THAT WAS A MOTION LIKE A YEAR AGO.
SHE'S TAKING THIS MOTION HERE.
THIS, THIS, THE CURRENT ONE? YEAH.
THERE'S A MOTION PENDING ON TO ADOPT THE SECOND PART OF THE, IT WAS THE MOTION TO OPEN THE ITEM, RIGHT? YES.
CAN YOU, CAN YOU RESTATE THE PARENT MOTION? SO THE FRIENDLY IS TO DISSOLVE THE, UH, THE FISCAL YEAR 26 AD HOC COMMITTEE RELATED TO THE CLOSED BUDGET LETTER, AND THEN TO CREATE THE NEW 20 FY 27 AD HOC COMMITTEE.
UM, AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN DISCUSS WHICH MEMBERS YOU'D LIKE TO INCLUDE TO BE PART OF THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
SO SHE'S SAYING THIS, THIS WAS THE MOTION AND IT JUST SAYS RECEIVING FILE REPORT.
SO WE'RE, SHE'S SAYING, CAN WE ADD IT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO SAY, DISSOLVE OUR FISCAL YEAR 26 AD HOC BUDGET RECOMMENDATION COMMITTEE AND CREATE, I THINK FOR YOUR 27 BUDGET RECOMMENDATION AD HOC COMMITTEE.
UM, I DON'T, UH, MAYBE I MISSED IT WHILE WE'RE TALKING RIGHT NOW.
WAS THERE A MOTION TO SECOND RIGHT NOW TODAY? YES.
SO THERE WAS A MOTION FROM MEMBER OCHOA AT THE BEGINNING OF THE ITEM WAS READ AND THEN SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR HOWARD.
SO AT THIS POINT, WE NEED TO GET APPROVALS FROM MEMBER OCHOA AND VICE CHAIR HOWARD TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DISSOLUTION AND THE CREATION.
SO NOW IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION OF CHO, THAT AD HOC, UM, JUST A REMINDER TWO WOULD BE THE MAP.
SO WHO WOULD LIKE TO WORK ON THIS? I WOULD, I'M FINE WITH NUMBERS AND THE HISTORY, BUT YOU, I'M INTERESTED, YOU'RE GOOD WITH THE BUDGET PROCESS? I DO HAVE, I USED TO BE A CITY EMPLOYEE FOR FIVE YEARS, SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO TOSS IT.
SO I I THINK YOU WOULD ADD A DEFINITE VALUE ON WHERE THAT'S AT.
SO I CAN DEFINITELY, UH, WE'LL GET YOU THE OLD COPY OR WHAT WE, BECAUSE THAT SUMMARIZED PRETTY WELL WHAT WE KNOW.
BUT DO Y'ALL WANNA TRY TO DO THAT TOGETHER, JAMES? SURE.
SO THEN I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
ARE YOU COMFORTABLE ON THAT? OKAY.
AND JUST SO THAT POINT OF CLARITY, SO WHAT'S OUR MEETING AFTER APRIL 7TH? TWO MONTHS KIND OF, I THOUGHT SO TOO.
SO I THINK WE'RE BACK IN JUNE.
AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY WORK THEN TOO.
SO IF, IF THE GOAL IS THAT THIS AD HOC COMMITTEE PUT TOGETHER KIND OF A DRAFT OF THOUGHTS ON WHERE WE SHOULD BE GOING WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FROM FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, START DRAFTING A LETTER APRIL 2ND.
WE CAN HAVE CONVERSATION AND THEN WE CAN ADD SOME MORE BULLET POINTS AND THEN FINALIZE IT ON THE FOURTH TO TRANSFER IT OVER OR FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE PROCESS OF HOW TO PRESENT IT.
YOU KNOW, THE COMMITTEE CAN ALSO LOOK AT THAT IF THAT'S, THAT WOULD PART BE OKAY.
RIGHT? OR DO WE HAVE TO SAY IN THE COMMITTEES
CAN YOU RAISE YES YOUR TIME IF, DO WE NEED TO AMEND THE MOTION TO CLARIFY WHAT THE COMMITTEE'S GONNA LOOK AT TO, I WOULD LIKE THEM NOT ONLY TO POTENTIALLY DRAFT A RECOMMENDATION ON FISCAL YEAR 27 BUDGET, BUT ALSO TO EXPLORE THE PROCESS OF THE BEST WAY TO DELIVER THIS.
THAT COULD WE POTENTIALLY DELIVER SOME OF THIS INFORMATION TO THE THAT'RE SAYING THE BUDGET SUBCOMMITTEE, WHERE THEN THE COMMITTEE CAN HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME AND CONVERSATION? I THINK YOU WERE GONNA WRITE THE SAME LETTER AND JUST DELIVER IT TO MULTIPLE PEOPLE.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE SAME PURPOSE.
THE BUDGET OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, UM, MEETS EVERY TUESDAY IN AUGUST WHEN THE BUDGET, THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS RELEASED.
BUT I THINK IT COULD BE AN EASY SORT OF THE DIRECTION HE GET THAT'S RELEASED TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE BUDGET.
AND THEN, AND THEN WE COULD POTENTIALLY, WE COULD THEN DISCUSS PROCESS OF SCHEDULING TIME TO TRY TO POTENTIALLY GO SPEAK TO THE BUDGET OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE WHEN IT'S LEASED OR, OR
WE GOTTA GET IN EARLY ON THAT.
AND JUST TO PIGGYBACK, YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, THE ADD ABOUT COMMITTEE AND JUST MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE LARGER BODY AS TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE SUGGESTION IS THERE UNDER THE, THE CURRENT.
SO THEN WE'D SAY A DRAFT OF THE APRIL THE SECOND.
WE WOULD FINALIZE IT ON THE JUNE FOUR.
SO NOW THAT WE'VE DONE OUR CONVERSATIONS, DO I HAVE TO ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? YES.
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DO DIFFERENT ONE OF THESE DAYS Y'ALL COULD SPEAK.WE WILL NOW TAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION? THANK YOU.
REMEMBER, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, I GUESS, UH, ON PUBLIC COMMENT, HOW CAN WE UNDERST SUE AT THE BEGINNING AND THEN COME BACK EVERY TIME AFTERWARDS ON AGENDA, PUBLIC COMMENT.
YOU CAN DO BOTH IN VIDEO, BUT IF YOU HAVE NO PUBLIC, THE STAFF REALLY CAN'T SPEAK.
AND THAT'S ALL THAT COMES TO THIS MEETING.
THE STAFF HAD ONE GUEST ONE TIME IT MY ENTIRE TWO YEARS, AND I INVITED THAT PERSON BECAUSE THEY SAID, CAN I SPEAK? I SAID, ABSOLUTELY.
AND SHE CAME AND TALKED ONE TIME.
THIS IS JUST THE STANDARD FORMAT, NOT THAT WE FOLLOWED THE MEETING, BUT WE CAN DISCUSS IT
MADAM, PER PLEASE CALL HER VOTE MEMBER
AND AT THIS TIME WE'LL TAKE NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS.
ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM? THIS IS ON THE AGENDA, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
CAN I, WELL, WE HAVE A, A MEMBER NON AGENDA ITEMS. YES, SIR.
NO, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, AGENDA ITEM, UH, BE LESS THAN THREE MINUTES OR A MINUTE.
UH, I KNOW, UH, SOME FOLKS, UH, JAN AND RWANDA AND I TO SAIL, BUT I'M, UH,
I'M, UH, EIGHTH DISTRICT RESIDENT.
UH, I WORK FOR LA COUNTY METRO TRANSIT AUTHORITY.
UH, MY BACKGROUND IS A CHEMICAL CONTROL ENGINEERING.
IT A THEN WAS THE GAS AND OIL DEPARTMENT, NOW UTILITY MERGER, UH, ABOUT MEASURED FACT, BUT JUST, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EVERYBODY AND, UH, EXCITED TO SERVE.
THIS IS MY FIRST TIME, UH, CITY COMMISSIONING, I ALABAMA STATE.
AND, UH, THE EDUCATION COMMISSION'S GONNA PASS.
SO IT'S, UH, BOTH WANNA SAY HELLO.
I WAS GLAD TO SEE YOUR NAME COME ACROSS.
UH, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, I DECLARE THE MEETING ADJOURNED AT, WHAT IS IT? 4 4 19.