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MEETING TO.SO AT 2:00 PM AND THEN I'LL DO ROLL CALL.
AND JUST, UH, FOR THE RECORD, THERE ARE NO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC PRESENT.
ALRIGHT, THEN LET'S TURN TO OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM.
UH, THE FIRST ITEM IS A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE HOMELESS SERVICES POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING OF MONDAY, JANUARY 12TH, 2026.
UH, SECOND ITEM ON THE AGENDA, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVING FILED THE DISCUSSION CONCERNING A PROPOSAL FOR A PROJECT FUNDING TO THE HOMELESS SERVICES MAYOR'S FUND SUBCOMMITTEE.
UM, SO I THINK WE GOT SOME GOOD INPUT IN OUR LAST GENERAL HAYSTACK MEETING FROM THE DIRECTION THAT FOLKS WOULD LIKE US TO TAKE.
AND SO I KIND OF REITERATED TWO OF THE THREE OPTIONS HERE AND A LITTLE HANDOUT THAT I, I PUT IN FRONT OF EVERYONE AND IT HAS THE SAME NUMBERS AS WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME.
THESE ARE ESTIMATES, UM, FOR EITHER, UH, A PILOT PROJECT THROUGH THE MAYOR'S FUND THAT WOULD FUND KIND OF AN OVERNIGHT A DA COMPLIANT PORTA POTTY RENTAL WITH STAFFING FOR ONE YEAR AS A PILOT.
SO WHAT WE WOULD ULTIMATELY, UH, LIKE JENNIFER AND JOSEPH IS IF YOUR TEAM IS WILLING TO LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS AND SAY, YES, THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD COST, WE WOULD APPRECIATE SOME EYES ON IT.
AND THEN THE SECOND OPTION THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED IN THE PAST IS, UM, STAFFING FOR A MO, A MOBILE SHOWER TRUCK.
AND THEN THIS IS ANOTHER ESTIMATE HERE.
UM, AND LAST TIME WE ALSO HAD DISCUSSED THE POSSIBILITY OF SPONSORING, YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE ANY SHELTER BEDS THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE DISCONTINUED BECAUSE OF FEDERAL FUNDING CUTS.
BUT WE HEARD FROM STAFF THAT THAT'S NOT A RISK THIS YEAR.
AND I THINK THE HAYSTACK GENERAL COMMITTEE SAID, YOU KNOW, FOCUS ON THESE TWO.
WHAT I HEARD IN THE DISCUSSION, AND WE CAN, YOU CAN TALK ABOUT IT MORE, IS MAYBE PEOPLE THOUGHT TO, TO GO WITH THE, THE TOILET OPTION.
BUT WE CAN DISCUSS WHAT WE ALL THOUGHT WE HEARD AND, AND WHAT WE'RE ALL THINKING ABOUT THIS.
SO WHAT, WHAT ARE PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS? JUST QUESTION FIRST.
I, I'M CONFUSED ABOUT, WAS IT TOILET ALREADY PURCHASED? DID PILL? NO, THIS DOESN'T EXIST.
THIS IS, SO THIS WAS FROM OUR RECOMMENDATION FROM LAST YEAR WHERE WE SAID WE'D LIKE THREE THINGS.
FOR SOME REASON I GOT THE IMPRESSION THE SHOWER TRUCK WAS, OH, THE SH I DON'T KNOW IF IT GOT, IT WAS APPROVED, RIGHT.
THE PURCHASE WAS APPROVED RIGHT BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE SHOWER, SHOWER TRUCK.
UM, AND THAT'S WHY THE OTHER, AND THEN, YEAH, NO, I GOT IT.
NOW IS IT STAFFED AND IS IT GONNA HAPPEN? THAT'S THE OTHER THING I WASN'T QUITE CLEAR ABOUT.
THERE'S, UM, THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE ANY MONEY, SO WE DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATES ON THAT YET.
I CAN TOUCH BASE WITH PAUL TO SEE IF HE'S HEARD ANYTHING, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO UPDATE ON THAT AS FAR AS THE ORDER OF THE SHOWER TRUCK OR DELIVERY OR ANYTHING.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF SOME OF, IF, IF, IF, IF IT WOULD, IF THERE'S MONEY NEEDED TO HELP SUPPORT THAT.
WELL WE WOULD NEED MORE INFORMATION FOR STAFF IN ORDER TO, TO KNOW THAT.
SO THE LAST TIME I, I TALKED WITH PAUL, THEY KIND OF SAID, HEY, GIVE US SOME FEEDBACK.
AND I THINK IT WAS, IT WAS UP IN THE AIR WHETHER THERE'S FUNDING FOR THIS, YOU KNOW, STAFF POSITION OR NOT.
BUT THERE WAS NO FINAL, LIKE EITHER WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY OR WE DO.
AND THEN HAS THE TRUCK BEEN PURCHASED ORDERED OR IS IT STILL KIND OF MONEY FLOATING APPROVED? BUT I KNOW HOW WHEN BUDGETS ARE TIGHT, SOMETIMES THINGS ARE SORT OF SAID OKAY, BUT THEN THEY DON'T HAPPEN.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS, IS DO WE HAVE THE SHOWERS HERE NOW? HAVE THEY BEEN ORDERED AND THEY'RE GONNA BE DELIVERED AND THEN ARE THEY STAFFED? THOSE ARE SORT OF THE THREE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
BUT THE THINGS AFTER THAT I'M NOT CLEAR ABOUT WITH PAUL.
I CAN, I CAN ASK HIM FOLLOW UP ON THAT AND UH, EMAIL YOU GUYS.
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AND SHE IS AWARE OF THE PROGRAM, BUT SHE DOESN'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF INFORMATION.SHE PROMISED TO FOLLOW UP ON IT, BUT SO FAR I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING.
A PROGRAM, THE PROGRAM BEING YEAH, ABOUT, UM, I TOLD HER THAT WE, WE HAD SOME FUNDING WE WERE THINKING ABOUT USING FOR THAT TO HELP THAT PROGRAM.
BUT WHEN YOU SAY THAT PROGRAM, WHAT PROGRAM ARE WE? THE SHOWER PROGRAM? IT COULD, I MEAN THERE ISN'T A SHOWER PROGRAM.
THERE IS AN APPROVAL OF A MEMO TO THE COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE ORDERING OF A SHOWER VEHICLE.
YOU KNOW, A TRUCK FROM A FIRM IN CANADA.
WELL, SHE DIDN'T HAVE MUCH INFORMATION ON IT.
UH, SHE HAD SOME KIND OF EMAIL THAT SHE SENT TO SOMEBODY WHO NEVER GOT BACK WITH HER.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S AT, HONESTLY.
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIND OUT MYSELF.
DO WE EXPECT PAUL TO JOIN THIS MEETING OR NO? NO, HE'S AT A SUPERVISOR'S MEETING.
SO I MEAN, SHOULD WE SAY, 'CAUSE I HAD ADDED A LITTLE THIRD ITEM FOR MYSELF HERE.
'CAUSE I KNOW IN THE DISCUSSION WITH THE WHOLE HAY SAC, UM, PEOPLE HAD SAID MAYBE WE SHOULD THROW IN A TRASH BIN, YOU KNOW, NEXT TO WHATEVER WE FUND.
BECAUSE THAT WAS THE THIRD RECOMMENDATION.
WE HAD A MASTER'S POLICY RECOMMENDATION.
UM, SO I KIND OF ADDED THAT HERE.
LIKE SHOULD WE TACK ON THE COST OF ONE OR TWO TRASH BINS, YOU KNOW, NEAR WHATEVER WE PROVIDE, TO ALSO PILOT THAT THE PROPOSAL WE HAD HAD THAT THIS WILL ALLOW PEOPLE IN ENCAMPMENTS TO KIND OF MANAGE THEIR OWN WASTE.
UM, SO SHOULD IT BE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE ALL THINK, OH, ANY OF THESE ARE VIABLE, BUT WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE CITY THINKING ABOUT STAFFING FOR THIS SHOWER TRUCK? GO AHEAD JULIA.
SO THE, UM, FOR THE FIRST OPTION, I HAVE A QUESTION FIRST.
UM, THE $350 PER MONTH, I KNOW IT'S AN ESTIMATE, BUT DOES THAT INCLUDE THE, UM, DAILY CLEANUPS? IT INCLUDES CLEANUPS.
I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'RE DAILY OR NOT, BUT IT INCLUDES WHATEVER CLEANUP SERVICES THERE.
I THINK WE WOULD WANT 'EM DAILY
AND THEN, UM, IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID ABOUT TRASH BINS, UM, IT, OH, OKAY.
UM, THE 40 HOURS A WEEK OVERNIGHT, SO WHAT OUT, WHAT, WHAT EIGHT HOURS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT 10 TO SIX? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT SOME OTHER OVERNIGHT? UM, YOU KNOW, IT VARIES A LOT IN TERMS OF, UM, PUBLIC FACIL, YOU KNOW, LIBRARIES GENERALLY CLOSE AT SIX WHEN THEY'RE OPEN AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE OPEN TILL SEVEN, BUT THEN THEY'RE CLOSED FOR TWO DAYS.
SO, UM, OVERNIGHT REALLY DOES VARY.
SO I MEAN, BUT IF, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NINE TO FIVE, YOU KNOW, IT SORT OF, IT SORT OF MATTERS.
AND I WOULD GUESS THAT WE WOULDN'T EXACTLY WANT THIS IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE.
UM, BECAUSE THE ENCAMPMENTS RIGHT NOW THERE'S SOME ON THE LEVEES OF THE RIVER NOT FAR FROM HERE.
UM, THERE'S A FEW IN ALLEYWAYS, THERE'S SOME IN SORT OF ADJACENT TO PARKS.
SO I GUESS WE WOULD HAVE, I WOULD WANT TO SEE WHERE THE CITY WOULD, WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE PUT THIS PORTA POTTY.
'CAUSE TO ME IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT DOWNTOWN.
BECAUSE TO ME THAT IS THE HOTSPOT BECAUSE WE HAVE MEAL PROGRAMS THERE AND WE HAVE OTHER SERVICES IN DOWNTOWN ADJACENT TO DOWNTOWN.
WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CONGREGATING AT THE MAIN LIBRARY EVERY NIGHT.
UH, WE HAVE OTHER PLACES WHERE PEOPLE HIDE OUT IN DOWNTOWN.
SO TO ME IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO PUT THIS PORTA POTTY SORT OF NEAR THE LIBRARY
UM, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE.
AND IT IS TRUE THAT THERE IS ONE RESTROOM THAT'S AVAILABLE AT FIRST IN LONG BEACH BOULEVARD THAT'S AT THE, UM, TRANSIT CENTER.
BUT FOR SOME REASON SOME PEOPLE DON'T MAKE IT OVER THERE.
UM, I WOULD GUESS, AND I, I WOULD TYPICALLY DEFER TO STAFF.
'CAUSE YOU HAVE THE MOST KNOWLEDGE OF WHERE PEOPLE ARE.
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THERE'S TWO DATA POINTS ON THAT.THERE'S WHERE ARE THERE ENCAMPMENT? WELL THERE'S THREE.
WHERE ARE THERE ENCAMPMENTS? WHERE ARE THERE BATHROOMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE? AND THEN THREE, WHERE ARE THE MOST CALLS ABOUT HUMAN WASTE? RIGHT.
LIKE IF THERE'S A CERTAIN AREA WHERE THERE'S JUST LIKE A LOT OF CALLS YEAH.
THEN MAYBE IT SHOULD GO THERE MM-HMM
BUT THEN I DON'T, UM, HAVING HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HUMAN EXCREMENTS WITH VARIOUS, UM, CITY OFFICIALS, IT SEEMS LIKE, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE CALL IN AND AROUND DOWNTOWN AND EVEN INTO THE SECOND DISTRICT, BUT THEN CALLS SORT OF FADE AWAY IN THE, IN WEST LONG BEACH AND NORTH LONG BEACH.
'CAUSE PEOPLE JUST DON'T TAKE THE TIME TO CALL.
NOT THAT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, IT'S JUST THEY DON'T, THEY THEY DON'T CALL, UM, THEY DON'T REPORT IT.
SO IT'S, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY INDICATED OF, OF REALITY JUST BECAUSE SOMETIMES IF THE POPULATION IS NOT ENGLISH PROFICIENT, THEY'RE NOT GONNA CALL, YOU KNOW, FOR A LOT OF THINGS.
I THINK THOSE ARE ALL GOOD POINTS.
AND MAYBE WHEN WE'RE ASKING STAFF FOR RECOMMENDATIONS, WE CAN SAY, CAN YOU PLEASE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, YOU KNOW, THESE FACTORS OF FINDING THE BEST POSSIBLE LOCATION.
IN MY LOCATION, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF BIG PARKS THAT THEY USE THAT THEY COULD GO TO THE BATHROOM IN AND NOBODY 24 7.
UH, I THINK THEY LOCK, LOCK 'EM UP AT NINE PARKS OF MY AREA ARE NOT, AND THEY'RE, THEY, THEY LOCK, DON'T I WANNA SAY AN HOUR AFTER SUNDOWN, AN HOUR AFTER SUNDOWN.
AND THEY OPEN LIKE AN HOUR AFTER SUN UP.
I DON'T QUITE KNOW WHEN THEY OPEN IT UP.
BUT, UM, I THINK I, I SUSPECT THAT AFTER HOURS, IF THEY DO CLOSE THEM UP, THAT THEY'RE, UM, THEY'RE USING THE BATHROOM AT THE PARK.
WAIT, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? I, I BELIEVE WHEN THEY DON'T, WHEN THEY AREN'T OPEN, THEY USE THE BATHROOM EITHER AT THE NATURE CENTER OR AT THE PARK WHEN THEY'RE OPEN.
AND YOU'RE SAYING THEY CAN, THEY'RE THEY'RE OPEN DURING THE DAY.
I KNOW THAT UHHUH BUT AT NIGHT THEY PROBABLY USE THE GROUNDS.
I THINK SHE NEEDS HER USING THE BATHROOM.
SHE GETTING INTO THE BATHROOM, IT BUSHES.
YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THERE IS ONE OF THOSE UMS AUTOMATED THINGS.
THRONES THAT THEY COULD USE IF THEY HAVE A PHONE.
BUT, UM, I ACTUALLY CONTACTED THEM ABOUT THAT.
'CAUSE ON THE SIDE OF THE, THE WHOLE THING IT SAYS THAT YOU CAN USE A, A TAP CARD.
I THINK IT SAYS A CARD SOMETHING, A TAP A CARD.
THEY CLAIMED NOT I CALLED THEM MM-HMM
AND THEY CLAIMED NOT TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
AND THEY WERE VERY RUDE ABOUT IT WHEN I WAS ASKING THEM, HOW DOES THAT WORK IF YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR PHONE WITH YOU? AND THEY WOULDN'T, THEY JUST KEPT SAYING THE SAME THING.
YOU KNOW HOW WHEN YOU'RE BEING PRETTY MUCH FLUFFED OFF, THEY JUST KEPT SAYING THE SAME THING.
THEY SAID, I SAID IS THE TAP CARD.
AND I ASSUMED IT WAS THAT, UM, TIED INTO THOSE AUTOMATED RESTROOMS. AND SHE SAID, I DON'T KNOW, YOU'D HAVE TO ASK METRO.
I SAID, WELL, IT SAYS ON THE SIDE OF YOUR THING, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? YEAH, IT'S ABOVE HER PAY GRADE.
AND THEN WHEN I TRIED TO CALL ANOTHER NUMBER THAT I FOUND, I I GOT NO ANSWER AT ALL.
SO THEY'RE NOT RESPONSIVE AT ALL.
SO WITH THIS, I MEAN WE, WE NEED MORE INFORMATION.
SO IS OUR QUESTIONS KIND OF FOR PAUL AND TEAM, YOU KNOW, DO YOU ENVISION THERE BEING FUNDING FOR STAFFING THE SHOWER TRUCK OR DO YOU SEE THAT THERE'S A, A DIRE FUNDING NEED THAT PERHAPS THE MAYOR'S FUND NEEDS TO FILL? SO QUESTION NUMBER ONE.
AND THEN QUESTION NUMBER TWO, ASSUMING THAT THEY THINK THE SHOWER TRUCK, YOU KNOW, STAFFING WILL BE COVERED, UM, THEN LET'S, LET'S CHECK IN ON, YOU KNOW, IS THIS
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A REASONABLE FINANCIAL ESTIMATE FOR WHAT IT WOULD COST IF, IF THEY HAVE THAT INFORMATION, UM, TO FUND A, A STAFFED 40 HOUR WEEK OVERNIGHT FOR TO JOHN.AND UM, I THINK WE DEFER TO 'EM OF WHERE, WHERE ARE THE ENCAMPMENTS WHERE THERE'S THE MOST WASTE REPORTED WHERE THERE AREN'T, YOU KNOW, CURRENT TOILETS AVAILABLE OVERNIGHT BECAUSE THEY PROBABLY GET SOME REPORTS AND SEE A LOT.
I THINK ANOTHER IMPORTANT QUESTION IS GONNA BE WHERE IS THE LOCATION OF THESE THINGS GONNA BE? 'CAUSE SO FAR WE DON'T HAVE MANY LOCATIONS AND WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER FIASCO LIKE HAPPENED WITH THE TINY HOMES THAT WE HAVE IT, BUT WE HAVE NO PLACE TO PUT IT.
AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE, AND THIS IS JUST ME THROWING THIS OUT THERE, I MEAN MAYBE IT'S JUST LOCATED NEAR EXISTING RESTROOMS AND PARKS, BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT SERVICE.
OR I MEAN, I GUESS IF YOU PUT IT THAT WAY, THEN MAYBE YOU JUST PAY SOMEONE TO BE EXISTING RESTROOMS. THEY DON'T NEAR THE PARK.
SO I'LL TELL YOU THAT IT'S, IT'S, IT HAS TO BE A PLACE WHERE IT'S ACCEPTABLE TO CONGREGATE AT NIGHT.
SO YOU HAVE TO GO TO PLACES WHERE THEY SLEEP.
AND THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED THE LIBRARY.
'CAUSE I KNOW PEOPLE WHO SLEEP AT THE LIBRARY.
UM, SO, UM, I MEAN YOU COULD DO IT BY THE RIVER, BUT THEN YOU'RE ONLY HITTING A, A SMALL POPULATION.
IF YOU GO BEYOND DOWNTOWN LONG BEACH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA SORT OF HIT AND MISS WITH UH, A, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BULK OF THE PEOPLE LIVING UNHOUSED.
UM, SO WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR PLACES TO PUT THE TRUCK.
AND I THINK THE RESTROOMS, WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO KNOW MORE.
WE HAVE TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE TRUCKS THEMSELVES IN ORDER TO FIND THE LOCATIONS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR THE TRUCK.
WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY NEED A WATER SOURCE, IF THEY NEED A POWER SOURCE, IF THEY NEED, UH, UM, DRAINAGE.
DO THEY NEED TO BE LOCATED NEAR A, A SEWAGE? SEWAGE? AND I THINK FOR THAT WE JUST HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE CITY TO PURCHASE THE TRUCK.
OR THEY HAVE TO TELL US WHAT THE SPECS ARE BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WE CANNOT MAKE ANY ASSUMPTIONS.
WHAT IF THEY PURCHASE THE TRUCK AND WE CAN'T FIND A PROPER LOCATION FOR IT? THAT DID HAPPEN ONCE BEFORE.
DIDN'T, WELL CAN'T WE? IT'S A MOBILE.
CAN WE GET SOME KIND OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE TRUCK THAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON PURCHASING? YEAH.
THAT'S WHAT JENNIFER'S GONNA ASK PAUL, THAT IT WILL BE IN THE CONTRACT.
IF THERE'S A CONTRACT, IT WILL BE IN THERE SPECIFICATIONS.
SO WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU DO THAT, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW WHAT IS REQUIRED IN ORDER TO OPERATE THAT TRUCK.
SO WE CAN, WE CAN KNOW MORE ABOUT THOSE LOCATIONS BECAUSE, UM, I KNOW THAT I TALKED, WHEN I TALKED TO MY CITY COUNCIL PERSON, UM, SHE ASKED WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE AND ALSO SHE MENTIONED THAT THEY DON'T WANT IT AT HOWTON PARK BECAUSE THEY'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ALREADY ABOUT THE HOMELESS AND PEOPLE WHERE WE WOULD'VE PUT IT IS NOT THAT FAR FROM A PLAYGROUND AND THEY DON'T WANT IT NEAR THERE.
BUT SHE MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT MAYBE A CHURCH COULD UH, HOST IT IN THEIR PARKING LOT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I THINK THAT THE IDEA WAS TO HAVE IT, UM, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE MAT VEHICLES THAT TRAVEL AROUND TO VARIOUS, THE TWO MAC VEHICLES THAT TRAVEL AROUND TO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
WAS THE THE TRUCK, THE SHOWER TRUCK WAS GOING TO GO WITH THE MAT.
'CAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO JUST HAVE A SHOWER TRUCK IN THE MIDDLE OF ANYWHERE WITHOUT OTHER SERVICES BEING PROVIDED.
BUT THE, THE TRUCK IN NORTH LONG BEACH IS ON ATLANTIC AVENUE.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA WANT PEOPLE SHOWERING ON ATLANTIC AVENUE.
LUKE'S, WE HAD TO HAVE A, A SHOWER TRUCK LAST YEAR.
'CAUSE THE MEN'S SHOWER WAS BEING, UM, REMODELED.
IT'S A SELF-SUSTAINING TRUCK AND THE STALLS ARE BIG ENOUGH WHERE YOU CAN, THE PERSON TAKING A SHOWER JUST GOES IN WITH THEIR CLOTHES ON AND COMES OUT WITH FRESH CLOTHES ON.
SO THERE'S NO VISIBLE APPEARANCES ON THE EXTERIOR THAT IT'S A SHOWER TRUCK.
IT'S A, IT'S A FULLY ENCLOSED THING WITH SOLID DOORS.
UM, I, IF THE MAC VEHICLE IS THERE, IT'S BECAUSE IT'S A REGULAR TRAILER.
THE STREETS AREN'T BURIED WIDE.
IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S SIMILAR TO THE DIMENSIONS ARE SIMILAR TO THE MAC VAN.
SO FOR OUR DECISION MAKING, 'CAUSE I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE ONLY HAVE THESE MEETINGS
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EVERY OTHER MONTH.WE WANNA BRING SOMETHING TO HAYSTACK IF POSSIBLE, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
UM, SO WOULD WE SAY THEN THAT IF THE CITY SAYS WE CANNOT FUND THE STAFFING POSITION FOR THE SHOWER TRUCK, WOULD THAT BE OUR FIRST CHOICE OVER THE A DA COMPLIANT, UH, TOILETS OR, OR DO WE NOT KNOW WHAT OUR FIRST CHOICE WOULD BE IN THAT INSTANCE? 'CAUSE I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW, DON'T ATIONS FOR THE TOILETS THEN WE DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION WE NEED.
WE, WELL, WE ARE, WE ARE RELYING ON, WE WOULD RELY ON THE STAFF.
TELL US WHERE IS THE NEED AND WHERE IS, YOU KNOW, LOGISTICALLY WHERE COULD WE DO THIS.
I'M PRETTY SURE PUBLIC WORKS KNOWS WHERE THE HOTSPOTS ARE THAT WOULD, UM, BE APPROPRIATE PLACES FOR AN A DA COMPLIANT RESTROOM OPEN IN THE NIGHTTIME.
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT PORTA POTTIES OR? PRETTY MUCH.
BUT WHY DO THEY NEED TO BE STAFFED? BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE OPEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT FOR SAFETY AND FOR FAMILY.
THAT'S WHY THE, THE RESTROOMS IN THE CITY ARE CLOSED BECAUSE THERE'S NO STAFFING DURING THE DAY TO CHECK OUT, YOU KNOW, DURING THE DAYTIME.
YOU SEE, AT LEAST AROUND THE PARKS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU SEE, UH, MARINE AND PARKS BUREAU PUR PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT ALL DAY LONG CHECKING ON THE RESTROOMS. BUT AT NIGHTTIME THERE'S NO, NOBODY.
SO THAT'S WHY THEY WALK A LOT.
SO THEY WOULD SIT IN A CAR AND WATCH THE TOILETS OR WHAT NOT SIT IN THE CAR.
THEY WOULD PROBABLY JUST BE RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
JUST SECURITY, REGULAR SECURITY, YEAH.
JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT GOOD ACTIVITY.
NOT A JOB I WOULD HAVE, BUT NO, BUT IT'S, I, IT'S, YEAH.
MAY I ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION FOR THE, UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOING EITHER OR.
AND THE ORIGINAL, UH, PROPOSAL WAS DEDICATING A HUNDRED THOUSAND TOWARDS THE, UM, MOBILE SHOWER.
UM, WHAT WOULD BE THE, WOULD IT BE A SIMILAR DEDICATION OF RESOURCES TO THE, TO THE TOILET? WOULD THAT ALSO BE MOBILE? SO IN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, WE SUGGESTED THAT THE CITY USE AND A, BECAUSE I DIDN'T, IT WAS FROM LAST YEAR, IT WAS KIND OF LIKE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
WE RECOMMEND IN THE GENERAL BUDGET YOU FIND SOME FUNDING TO DO, YOU KNOW, A SHOWER.
AND THAT WAS WHAT IT WAS APPROVED ESSENTIALLY.
AND NOW WE'RE SAYING, HEY, WE HAVE THIS RESOURCE AND WE THINK THESE THINGS ARE SO IMPORTANT, WE SHOULD DO A PILOT.
SO TO COMPLEMENT THAT AND WE'RE GLAD THE CITY MADE THAT INVESTMENT.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE WOULD'VE HOPED FOR.
NOW WHAT DO WE DO? YOU KNOW, IS THAT GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT THIS FUNDING? IT'S SO GREAT.
WE'RE SO GLAD THAT THE CITY FOUND FUNDING TO DO THIS IMPORTANT INITIATIVE.
SO THEN THIS IS IN ADDITION 'CAUSE WE HAD THREE RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE HAD THE MOBILE SHOWER TRUCK, WE HAD, UM, YOU KNOW, WE SAID TWO A DA COMPLIANT PORTA POTTIES WITH STAFFING OVERNIGHT.
AND THEN WE SET TRASH RECEPTACLE.
SO WE'RE FRANKLY EXCITED AND GLAD YOU KNOW, THAT THE CITY IS MOVING FORWARD WITH THE SHOWER TRUCK.
AND IF, IF THE FUNDING'S THERE TO STAFF THAT, THEN GREAT, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR SECOND PRIORITY, YOU KNOW, OR THIRD PRIORITY, WHICH WAS OTHER TWO WERE TRASHED IN PORTA POTTY.
YEAH, I DID A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH WHILE WE WERE SITTING HERE TALKING.
SO I DID FIND AN ARTICLE FROM, UH, MAY, UM, THAT SAYS THAT THE UNITS FOR LONG BEACH ARE COSTING ABOUT 6,200 A MONTH, WHICH WOULD BE UNDER THE SHOWER, SHOWER TRUCK.
NO, THIS IS FOR THE, THE SCAN TOILETS.
SO SIX TO 200 A MONTH FOR, FOR ONE OF THOSE THERON.
AND THE CLARIFICATION IS THEY DO CALL IT A, A TAP CARD, BUT IT'S A THRONE TAP CARD.
AND I THINK THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO REQUEST, UM, PACKS OF THOSE, THAT WHATEVER I THINK, YOU KNOW, DEPARTMENT IS, UH, IS A BETTER, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WOULD LOSE.
I MEAN THAT IT, IT DIDN'T EVEN SOUND LIKE A VIABLE ALTERNATIVE.
WELL, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE SEND OVER THESE QUESTIONS AND PAUL COMES BACK AND SAYS WE WANNA DO ADDITIONAL THRONES, WE'LL WE'LL GIVE OUT THRONE CARDS AT THE MACK VEHICLE.
WE, WE JUST NEED THAT INFORMATION.
WELL, IT WOULD BE, YEAH, IT WOULD BE, THAT'S RIGHT.
TO MY UNDERSTANDING, I KNOW HOW MUCH THE LOANS COST.
THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS IN THIS ARTICLE.
UM, SPECIFICALLY FOR THE LONG BEACH THRONE PROPOSAL.
UH, IT SAYS, IT SAYS 6,200 A MONTH.
SO, SO THAT WILL BE ONE OF OUR QUESTIONS.
SHOULD WE JUST GO WITH A THRONE AND THEN GIVE OUT CARDS? SO WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL ASK, WE'LL ASK PAUL, YOU KNOW, IS THIS A BETTER WAY TO GO? UM, SO YEAH, SO YOU HAD SAID EVEN IF THE SHOWER DOES NOT HAVE STAFFING AT THIS TIME, YOU THINK WE SHOULD GO WITH THE A DA TOILET UM, PROPOSAL.
WHAT DO OTHERS THINK? WHAT IS YOUR FIRST PRIORITY? THE SHOWER
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A BASIC, AS FAR AS PERSONAL BASIC NEEDS GOING TO THE BATHROOM IS HIGHER THAN TAKING A SHOWER.AS FAR AS A PER MY PERSONAL BASIC NEED, AND THIS IS THE REASON I'M ASKING, IS BASICALLY WHEN PAUL COMES BACK AND THE STAFF COME BACK WITH LIKE, HERE'S WHAT WE HAVE, HERE'S HOW MUCH IT COSTS.
SO THEN WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT THE COMMITTEE THINKS THE PRIORITY IS AND WE CAN PUT THAT IN FRONT OF PAY SEC FOR A DISCUSSION.
UM, GOING BACKWARDS THOUGH, UM, IT'S ACTUALLY A PUSH IF WE DO THE, THE THRONE WITH THRONE CARDS, UNLESS THE THRONE CARDS COSTS ADDITIONAL MONEY, IT'S $74,400 FOR A THRONE.
THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO STAFF BECAUSE IT'S, IT CLOSES ON YOU AFTER 10 MINUTES.
UM, I WOULD GUESS THAT THE POLICE MIGHT BE INVOLVED IN A FEW CALLS AT NIGHT, BUT HEY, THEY'RE ON DUTY.
LET'S ASK FOR WHAT, WHAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION FOR STAFF BASED ON WHAT THEY KNOW? RIGHT.
UM, WHAT, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS OF PRIORITIZING EITHER SHOWER STAFFING OR, OR THE TOILET PILOT? WHICH ONE? WELL, THE FACT THAT WE'VE, THE FACT THAT THE SHOWER HAS MOVED THROUGH, IT'S GONE TO THE CITY COUNCIL, IT'S BEEN APPROVED AND IT'S FLOATING.
TO ME, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S, IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S MOMENTUM THERE, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, WE DON'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE SHOWER AND, AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO, THE UPDATE I WOULD WANT TO KNOW IS, HAS IT BEEN PURCHASED SPECIFIC QUESTIONS? OKAY.
WILL IT BE STAFFED? NOT SORT OF, I, I'M WORRIED THEY'RE IN BUDGET.
EVERYBODY'S IN A BUDGET LIMBO AT THE END OF LAST YEAR.
THE, AT THE END OF LAST YEAR, THE CITY, ALL THE DEPARTMENTS SPUN OUT THEIR RESERVES SO THAT THIS MAY HAVE BEEN TIED TO RESERVES.
SO DID IT GET PURCHASED? IF IT'S PURCHASED, I DON'T WANT IT SITTING IN A LOT LIKE TINY HOMES.
DO WE NEED TO, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO.
THEY NEED HELP FROM US TO FUND THIS FOR A YEAR TO PILOT IT, SEE HOW IT'S STAFFED.
AND SO THAT'S HOW I WOULD LIKE TO GO.
AND THEN IF WE HEAR, NO, IT'S NOT PURCHASED, WE GOT APPROVAL, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.
OKAY, THEN, THEN I'M FINE WITH THE TOILETS.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF WHEN YOU DO SOMETHING THAT'S WITH A RENTAL, IT'S EASIER TO TURN OFF AND ON.
SO THAT I LIKE ABOUT THAT ASPECT.
BUT IF WE, IF WE'RE COMMITTED TO THE SHOWER PATH, I WOULD LIKE TO GO THAT.
I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO SHOWER TRUCK SITTING IN A, IN A LOT SOMEWHERE.
'CAUSE THAT WAY, WE'LL, WE'LL GET SOMETHING ACCOMPLISHED THAT IS POSITIVE AND THAT IS WHY WE'RE GOING THIS ROUTE.
WITH THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE MAYOR'S FUND.
SO WE'LL SEND THOSE QUESTIONS OVER TO PAUL.
WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE STILL SHAPING UP, BUT REALLY LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE FROM PAUL AND STAFF OF LIKE, WHERE ARE THE NEEDS? WHAT, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE MAKE AN IMPACT AND, AND HELP MAKE ONE OF THESE TANGIBLE.
AND FOR SOME OF THE DETAILS, WE'LL ASK STAFF TO TELL US WHERE'S THE NEED, YOU KNOW, WHERE WOULD THIS MOST BE UTILIZED? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS DISCUSSION OR WILL WE KIND OF WAIT TO HEAR BACK A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR SOME GUIDANCE? ALRIGHT, WELL, ALL IN FAVOR OF RECEIVING AND FILING THIS DISCUSSION.
UM, SO TIMING OF GETTING FEEDBACK.
SO WE MEET EVERY TWO MONTHS AND THEN THE COMMITTEE MEETS EVERY TWO MONTHS.
THE NEXT MEETING WOULD BE THE COMMITTEE.
SO DO WE WANT THE FEEDBACK TO COME TO THE COMMITTEE OR WILL IT COME OFFLINE TO US? CAN IT BE ASKED AND HE CAN SEND AN EMAIL.
WE CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE, UM, POLICY COMMITTEE REPORT.
AND IT CAN BE DISCUSSED AT THAT TIME AT THE, AND THEN NOTIFY PAUL THAT WE WANT INFORMATION UP TO, WE, WE REALLY WANT SOME CONCRETE STUFF ON THE SHOWERS IS, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE IF NOT, IF IT'S DEAD, THEN WE'LL SHIFT TO THE RENTING, WHICH I THINK COULD BE MORE EASILY DONE.
ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL WORK ON THAT AND UH, HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THE WHOLE COMMITTEE AND KIND OF PRESENT BASED ON YOUR PRIORITIES HERE, WHAT WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND.
SO, UM, WE GOT A VERY MEATY AGENDA, UH, THIS, THIS MONTH.
SO THE NEXT ITEM IS RECOMMENDATIONS.
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FILE A DISCUSSION OF THE DRAFT 2025 HOMELESS SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE, ANNUAL REPORT.YOU CAN ALL SEE A COPY OF THE ANNUAL REPORT THAT JULIE HAS PUT OUT HERE.
IS THERE A MOTION? MOVE? SECOND.
ALRIGHT, LET'S HAVE OUR DISCUSSION.
SO BASICALLY, UM, WHAT JULIE HAS PUT, WELL JULIE, WHY DON'T YOU TAKE, PUT, TAKE US THROUGH WHAT YOU'VE PUT TOGETHER HERE FOR THE REPORT.
IT'S BASICALLY JENNIFER, JENNIFER AND I JUST TOOK WHAT WAS, UM, WHAT WAS SAID AT THE LAST ANNUAL REPORT.
UM, TO GO BACK, EVERY COMMISSION OF THE CITY IS REQUIRED, UM, TO SUBMIT AN ANNUAL REPORT TO THE COUNCIL TO REPORT ON THE PRIOR YEAR'S ACTIVITIES OF THAT COMMISSION.
UM, AND TRADITIONALLY INCLUDED IN OUR ANNUAL REPORT, OUR, UM, POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS ALSO.
SO BASICALLY IT'S JUST, UM, A SUMMARY OF OUR ACTIVITIES.
UM, THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS WE HAD, THE, UM, MAYOR'S FUND DISTRIBUTIONS THAT WE APPROVED, AND THEY ARE LISTED AS SUCH.
AND SO THE ONLY, UM, THING WE, WE WOULD ADD, UM, AND FEEL FREE TO COMMENT AS YOU WISH ON THE TEXTS ALREADY THERE, BUT THE, WHAT, WHAT'S MISSING FROM THIS ONE? AND IT, IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT WE INCLUDE A POLICY RECOMMENDATION, BUT IT, IT'S OUR ONE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE WE SHOULD NOT LET THAT SPOT GO EMPTY.
UM, SO, UM, TYPICALLY THE REPORT SHOULD COME IN TO THE COUNCIL, UM, YOU KNOW, BY SPRINGTIME.
SO IT, IT SORT OF IS RIGHT NOW IS THE WINDOW TO TRY TO GET THIS DONE.
SO I, I GUESS I'M HOPING THAT TODAY WE CAN DISCUSS OUR POLICIES FROM LAST TIME AND MAYBE AND I, I HAVE THAT YEAH.
WELL FIRST I'D, I'D LIKE TO, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT'S HERE AND MAYBE THE REST OF YOU DO MM-HMM
UM, SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE MAYOR'S FUND AWARD.
AND THEN IT, IS IT THAT WE ONLY HAVE, UM, $40,000 THAT WE'VE AWARDED IN THE LAST LIKE YEAR AND A HALF THROUGH THE MAYOR'S FUND? OR IS THERE MORE? NO, THAT'S IT.
THAT THESE ARE THE ONLY AWARDS WE'VE, WE'VE SORT OF BEEN AT A STANDSTILL FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.
UM, I SAW IN OUR, UM, LAST UPDATE THAT JENNIFER PROVIDED, THE BALANCE IS CLOSER TO ABOUT $170,000 IN THE MAYORS FUND.
SO, UM, WE WE'RE SORT OF BUILDING A LITTLE RESERVE, YOU KNOW, EVERY MONTH WITH, YOU KNOW, A FEW THOUSAND HERE AND THERE DONATIONS.
SO, UM, THE THING THAT I HAVE BEEN TRYING, JIM, HOW, WHO'S THE CHAIR OF THE MAYOR SUN COMMITTEE, WHAT HE AND I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO IS SORT OF THESE, THESE TYPES OF FUNDING OR SOME OF THESE FUNDING VERSUS ARE SORT OF LEFTOVER FROM WHAT WE DID DURING THE PANDEMIC WHEN EVERYTHING WAS SHUT DOWN.
IT WAS MORE ABOUT GETTING SUPPLIES TO PEOPLE, INCLUDING THE PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
AND NOW, AND THE INTENT OF THE MAYORS FUND WASN'T EXACTLY THAT.
THE INTENT OF THE MAYORS FUND WAS TO MEET GAP NEEDS, UM, THAT THE CITY OR THE COUNTY OR OTHER NONPROFITS DON'T, UM, TRADITIONALLY HAVE FUNDING SOURCES FOR.
SO, UM, WE'VE INCLUDED, JENNIFER HAS INCLUDED IN PRIOR, UM, HAACK MEETING PACKETS, THE, THE ENTIRE LIST OF, OF MAYOR'S FUND, UM, FUNDING DISTRIBUTIONS, GOING BACK TO, UH, THE NINETIES.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHEN THE PROGRAM STARTED.
AND WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING FROM HELPING THE CITY IMPROVE ITS COMPUTER, UH, DATABASE TO MSC IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FIRST SAFE PARKING PILOT.
UM, UH, AND, UM, OTHER SORT OF MORE MEATY, UM, PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN SUPPORTED BY THE MAYOR'S FUND.
SO, SO, BUT FOR, FOR 2025, THAT'S, THAT'S THE WHOLE LIST.
SO THIS, THIS TO ME INDICATES WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK YEAH.
WITH TRYING TO FUND A PILOT PROJECT THROUGH THE MAYOR'S FUND SINCE ONLY $20,000 WAS AWARDED LAST CALENDAR YEAR THROUGH THE MAYOR'S FUND, WE NEED TO GET IT OUT THERE FOR SOME, SOME IMPACT.
SO FOR URBAN SOCIAL SERVICES, IT WAS ONLY, IT SHOULD ONLY BE 5,000, NOT 10.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT YOU SEE HERE ALREADY? OR SHOULD WE MOVE TO A DISCUSSION OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS? ANY OTHER FEEDBACK ON THIS REPORT? UM, I, SORRY, JUST TO ADD, IDEALLY, UM, THE, THE REPORT SHOULD BE COMPLETED BY JUNE 30TH.
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SUPPOSED TO.UM, UH, ONE MORE THING, MAYBE INSTEAD OF APPROVAL DATE, WE SHOULD SAY COMPLETION DATE AND CHANGE THOSE.
'CAUSE IT IS A LITTLE CONFUSING THE WAY YEAH.
SO IT SHOULD BE, TECHNICALLY WE ONLY RECEIVED AN APPLICATION FOR PRICELESS INVESTORS LAST YEAR, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO IT SHOULD BE COMPLETION DATE OR A WORD DATE.
'CAUSE THEY HAVE A YEAR TO DO IT.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHY YOU SEE IT LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, YEAH, I THINK COMPLETION DATE WOULD PROBABLY BE BEST BE MORE ACCURATE.
SO NO ONE HAS ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON WHAT'S ALREADY WRITTEN HERE.
SO I HAVE SOME IDEAS FOR OUR POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEY'RE A CONTINUATION OF WHAT WE'VE ALL BEEN DISCUSSING.
UM, BUT WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR IS WE CARRIED OVER RECOMMENDATION NUMBER ONE, WHERE WE SAID WE THINK THE CITY NEEDS TO FOCUS ON INCREASING THE SHELTER RATE.
AND WE SAID, WE KNOW OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, LONG-TERM HOUSING WILL ALWAYS BE A PRIORITY, BUT WE THINK A LITTLE BIT MORE RESOURCES AND EFFORT NEEDS TO SHIFT TOWARDS SETTING HIGHER GOALS FOR THE SHELTER RATE.
SO DO WE STILL AGREE THAT THAT SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE OUR RECOMMENDATION OF, YOU KNOW, PLEASE CONTINUE TO SET GOALS FOR A HIGHER SHELTER RATE AND MAYBE CARRY OVER THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE USED IN THE PAST TO JUST SAY, CONSISTENTLY THIS, THIS IS WHAT WE THINK.
DO PEOPLE AGREE WITH THAT APPROACH FOR OUR FIRST RECOMMENDATION? OR WHAT DO YOU THINK? AND BY THE TIME, HOPEFULLY BY THE TIME THIS IS FINALIZED, THE UM, 2026 HOMELESS COUNT NUMBERS USUALLY COME RIGHT, RIGHT.
SO IT, AND, AND IN THAT RECOMMENDATION WE CAN NOTE MM-HMM.
YOU KNOW, WHAT HAS HAPPENED, WHAT, WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE SHELTER RATE, WHAT HAS THE PROGRESS BEEN OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS MM-HMM.
SINCE WE'VE BEEN MAKING THIS RECOMMENDATION.
ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? OR DO WE KNOW IF THE HOMELESS COUNT IS COMING OUT? UM, NOT YET, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S IN APRIL.
I CAN DOUBLE CHECK WITH DALTON.
SO BY APRIL YEAH, I WAS, I WAS APRIL.
I THINK A LOT OF THESE ARE DEPENDENT ON WHAT HAPPENS IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS.
I MEAN, WE ALL SEE WHAT'S ON OUR STREETS, SO, SO DEPENDS.
I MEAN, NO MATTER WHAT THE HOMELESS COUNT REPORT SAYS THERE, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF A LOT OF ISSUES TO ADDRESS ON OUR STREETS.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE FUNDING IS TIGHT, SO WE CAN'T MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TOO UNREALISTIC.
I KNOW WE NEED TO KEEP PUSHING, BUT YEAH, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF FUN TO ME.
IT'S NOT REALLY ABOUT MONEY SO MUCH.
UM, IT IT'S MORE ABOUT TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE WHO ARE, WHO ARE LIVING UNHOUSED AND SOMETIMES IT, IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT MONEY THAT THEY'RE EXPECTING FROM YOU.
THEY'RE EXPECTING JUST HUMAN KINDNESS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT CAN GO A LONG WAYS AND ACCESS TO A RESTROOM AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S BASIC NEEDS, NOT NECESSARILY MONEY.
I MEAN, AT THIS POINT, A LOT OF 'EM DON'T EVEN EXPECT MORE THAN THE BASIC NEEDS.
AND, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT PLUMBING, YOU KNOW, PERSONAL HYGIENE AND PLUMBING AND FOOD.
SO, UH, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY MONEY.
ONE WAY OF APPROACHING IS JUST TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE CONTINUE TO SAY THE CITY SHOULD SET THE GOAL OF REDUCING THE, UM, THE UNSHELTERED RATE.
HERE ARE OUR NUMBERS FROM THE PAST YEARS AND WE THINK THIS SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE A STRATEGIC APPROACH OF THE CITY.
AND THEN WHEN WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE NUMBERS, WE CAN GET, YOU KNOW, ADD THOSE NUMBERS IN AND BE MORE, MORE SPECIFIC.
BUT KIND OF JUST SAYING WE THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT EMPHASIS OF, OF DECREASING CHILDREN.
IT WAS GOOD THE WAY YOU, YOU, UM, PULLED IN THE PUBLIC WORKS COSTS LAST YEAR AND USED THAT AS JUSTIFICATION TO TRY TO ADDRESS, UM, THE SANITATION NEEDS.
'CAUSE THAT'S SORT OF, YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE HOMELESS COUNT REPORT SAYS.
SO THAT KIND OF BRINGS US TO OUR SECOND RECOMMENDATION FROM LAST YEAR, DOUG.
WELL, UM, I WOULD JUST ADD PERMANENT, PERMANENT SHELTER BEDS.
UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THESE, UH, MOTEL ENCAMPMENT, ENCAMPMENT RESOLUTION FUNDS THAT LAST ONE YEAR, UM, IT'S PERMANENT ARE NEEDED.
SO IT'S REALLY GOOD THAT ALTHOUGH THERE'S STRUGGLES ABOUT IT, THERE'S STUFF HAPPENING WITH A PERMANENT LOCATION IN ADDITION IN NORTH LONG BEACH.
UM, THE, THE ONE QUESTION I HAVE WAS, I HAVE A MEMORY OF
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WHEN WE MADE OUR REQUEST AND WE PROVIDED THOSE SORT OF GOALS MM-HMMDID NOT THE CITY DO AN ANALYSIS OF THAT AND COME UP WITH A VERY LARGE NUMBER MILLION, 30 MILLION OR SOME HUGE NUMBER.
AND IT FELT TO ME LIKE IT WAS, IT WAS LIKE THE NUMBER IS SO LARGE, IGNORE THE REQUEST.
I, I ALSO GOT THAT IMPRESSION IN THE WORDING.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PHILOSOPHICAL.
WHAT WE'VE BEEN SUGGESTING THE PAST COUPLE YEARS IS PHILOSOPHICAL OF WE'VE SEEN OTHER CITIES DO THIS.
WE'VE SEEN SAN UH, WE'VE SEEN SAN FRANCISCO FOCUS ON SHELTER OVER LONG-TERM HOUSING OR SHIFT THAT A LITTLE BIT.
OF COURSE WE KNOW THERE IS NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO PROVIDE ALL THE SERVICES THAT WE WISH THAT WE COULD PROVIDE.
BUT I, I THINK IT'S, WE JUST HAVE TO KEEP SAYING THERE'S BEEN A PHILOSOPHICAL SHIFT AND OTHER CITIES AND THEY'VE SEEN INCREASED SHELTER RATES.
AND THAT IS WHAT WE AS A GROUP, AT LEAST THE PAST TWO YEARS HAVE SAID.
WE SHOULD ALSO SHIFT THAT PRIORITY A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF THE DEATH RATE OF PEOPLE EXPERIENCING UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS IN OUR CITY AND OTHER NEGATIVE EFFECTS.
SO YES, I THINK ANYTIME YOU WRITE UP THE NUMBERS OF WHAT IT WOULD COST TO PROVIDE BASELINE SERVICES TO, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR WHOLE POPULATION IN THE CITY, IT WILL BE ASTRONOMICAL.
AND THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH SERVICES.
BUT WE'RE JUST SAYING MAYBE TAKE A LITTLE FROM HERE AND SHIFT TO HERE IF POSSIBLE.
SO MY PERSONAL RECOMMENDATION IS THEY NEED TO BUILD IT.
THEY, THERE SHOULD BE A RECOMMENDATION TO FUND MONEY TO CREATE ANOTHER SHELTER, PERMANENT SHELTER, UH, AT THAT A FACILITY, PERMANENT SHELTER, SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS DONE IN, UH, IN UH, NORTH LONG BEACH.
AND, UH, IT, SO DO YOUR BUDGETING ON THAT.
DON'T DO YOUR BUDGETING ON, ON SIX ACHIEVING 60% WHEN THE NUMBER IS MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
IT'S MORE ABOUT WHAT, WHAT ARE THE STEPS? YOU KNOW, IT'S A STEP, TO ME IT'S A STEPWISE.
AND SO YOU COULD PHILOSOPHICALLY SAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE BIG PICTURE OF WHAT WE WANT AND OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE IT.
BUT THEN THEY CAME BACK WITH SORT OF A TOO MUCH MONEY.
I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE WORK DONE.
AND I'M HOPING THE REVISION OF THE, UH, LUXURY AGAIN.
I'M HOPING THE REVISION OF THE, THE, UM, HOME FIRST OR WHATEVER THE, THE STRATEGY.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EVEN GONNA HAPPEN, UH, WITH EVERYTHING ELSE.
BUT WE'VE HAD PLANS BEFORE TOO, THOUGH.
BUT ANYWAY, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S A PHILOSOPHICAL THING AND JUST, UH, UM, YEAH.
DO, DO WE, DO WE MAKE SOME REFERENCE OR DO SOME WAY TO FOLD IN, IN, IN, IN, IN PHASES? YOU KNOW, WE, WE PUT AN AGGRESSIVE FEW YEARS, IT'S JUST A FEW YEARS.
IT'S LIKE 30 MILLION OVER, UH, WHAT WAS OUR TIMELINE? OUR TIMELINE WAS PRETTY AGGRESSIVE FIVE YEARS AGO.
THEY DON'T HAVE MONEY FOR THAT TWO YEARS.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK, I WORRY THAT IF WE KEEP SAYING THAT LANGUAGE, IT'S GONNA COME BACK WITH 30 MILLION.
AND PARTICULARLY IN THESE TOUGH BUDGET TIMES.
WHEREAS REALLY, I THINK YOU START WITH STEP ONE IS ANOTHER LOCATION, A HUNDRED BEDS OR WHATEVER IT IS.
AND, UH, WHERE DO YOU, WHERE DOES THE CITY NEED TO HAVE THAT STRATEGICALLY THE MOST IMPORTANT LOCATION GEOGRAPHICALLY? I THINK IT'S PROBABLY IN THE DOWNTOWN WEST SIDE AREA.
BUT I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S IN A KIND OF AN ACHIEVABLE GOAL.
BUT I, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE BIG PICTURE TOO.
SO I TOTALLY AGREE WITH REFERENCING THE TYPES OF PROGRESS THAT HAS BEEN MADE THAT WE THINK HAS GOOD PROGRESS AND SAYING DO MORE OF THAT.
CONTINUE THE, CONTINUE THE STEPS.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I, I'M SO PRAGMATIC AND
'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT I, I DO IS COST BE OKAY.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE LUXURY INN, IT'S 77 BEDS, IT WAS $16 MILLION TO PURCHASE IT AND AT LEAST $6 MILLION FOR IMPROVEMENTS FOR 77 BEDS.
TO ME THAT THE OUTCOMES FROM 2020 $2 MILLION ISN'T EXACTLY SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD TRY TO REPLICATE BECAUSE WITH $22 MILLION, I THINK YOU CAN GET MORE THAN 77
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BEDS.IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT REPURPOSING, WHICH PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, EXISTING BUILT BUILDINGS.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
I'M, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE, SO I, I, I, I WANT EVERYBODY OFF THE STREETS.
THAT, THAT'S MY END GOAL, BUT I WANNA DO IT INTENTIONALLY.
ESPECIALLY WHEN WE, WE, WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME BUDGETING ISSUES COMING UP THAT WE CANNOT SPEND $22 MILLION FOR 77 BEDS.
THAT'S JUST NOT A THING ANYMORE.
AND SAME WITH PERMANENT HOUSING WHERE WE SPEND $700,000 PER UNIT.
THAT THAT CAN'T BE A THING ANYMORE.
SO GOING BACK TO SOME OF THE SOFTER RECOMMENDATIONS MAY BE, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH, AND I I'VE HAD A MEETING WITH THE PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE, UH, WITH DOUG
AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE ALL SEE AS A PROBLEM IN OUR UNHOUSED COMMUNITY IS MENTAL HEALTH.
UM, WHAT IF WE HAD BETTER, NOT JUST THROUGH THE PROSECUTORS, UM, DIVERSION PROGRAMS, IF WE HAD BETTER ACCESS TO THE COUNTY MENTAL HEALTH MONSTER THAT THEY HAVE.
UM, I MEAN, RECENTLY I HELPED TWO WOMEN WHO HAVE BEEN HOMELESS.
I CAN'T EVEN, I DON'T KNOW, OVER SEVEN YEARS THAT I'VE KNOWN 'EM IN AND AROUND ST.
AND THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN, UM, RECOVERY, MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROGRAMS THROUGH THE COUNTY.
UM, AND SO MAYBE WE CAN ADDRESS THAT ELEMENT KNOWING THAT THE COUNTY HAS THESE RESOURCES THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO USE, YOU KNOW, TO, TO SORT OF LEVERAGE THE COUNTY REF RESOURCES AND NOT ALWAYS THINK ABOUT LONG BEACH AS THIS FINITE BOUNDARY OF, UM, THAT'S UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT THAT DOESN'T HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT IN IT.
UM, BUT THAT SOMEHOW WE, WE BETTER ADDRESS THE MENTAL HEALTH, UM, CRISIS THAT WE SEE.
AND I, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I AM JUST ABLE TO HELP ONE PERSON AT A TIME.
BUT
ARE RESIDENTS OF LONG BEACH OR UNHOUSED OR, YOU KNOW, HAVING THIS EXPERIENCE, ARE THEY ABLE TO ACCESS COUNTY MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES? I MEAN WE HAVE THE COMPREHENSIVE HEALTH, UM, FACILITY ON, UM, ON ANAHEIM THERE, I AND CHESTNUT.
AND WE, WE CERTAINLY HAVE PEOPLE WHO END UP AT SOME OF THE FACILITIES.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE, THE FIVE YEAR MENTAL HEALTH FACILITY, UM, RIGHT NEXT TO THE GRAND, UM, THE EXTENDED STAY THAT'S 150 BEDS, UM, THAT ARE ALL UNDER THE DEPARTMENT OF MENTAL HEALTH.
UM, AND SO JULIE, WHAT, WHAT SPECIFICALLY, 'CAUSE WE DO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO DRILL DOWN.
WHAT DO YOU THINK IS MISSING HERE BETWEEN, I THINK A FORMAL, A FORMAL PIPELINE TO TRY TO ACCESS SOME OF THESE BEDS? 'CAUSE SOMETIMES I END UP CALLING, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THE PROSECUTOR CAN'T DO IT THROUGH DIVERSION, THEN I END UP CALLING COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH.
BUT THEY NEVER GET INTO LONG BEACH 'CAUSE THEY HAVE TO STAY OUTSIDE OF LONG BEACH.
AND UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THESE PEOPLE EVENTUALLY GET THERE.
AND I KNOW, I KNOW THAT THE CITY STAFF DOES MAKE THESE MENTAL HEALTH REFERRALS, BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE WE DO ENOUGH OF THEM.
YOU KNOW, THAT MAYBE WE COULD, WE COULD SOMEHOW, AND I KNOW THIS, THIS ISN'T, UM, MAYBE ACCEPTABLE YET, BUT I THINK WE UNDER UTILIZE 51 50.
I KNOW PEOPLE DON'T LIKE IT, BUT I'VE SEEN PEOPLE ACCESS HELP FROM THAT.
JUST THE 24 HOUR INITIAL HOLD, YOU KNOW, 51 50 IS WHEN YOU SEE SOMEBODY HAVING A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS AND YOU CALL THE POLICE AND THEY DECLARE, YEP, THIS PERSON IS EITHER GONNA HARM SOMEBODY OR THEMSELVES AND THEY HAVE TO BE AN INVOLUNTARY HOLD INVOLUNTARY 72 HOUR HOLD.
BUT WHAT YOU COULD ALSO DO IS TAKE THEM TO THE MENTAL HEALTH URGENT CARE ON LONG BEACH BOULEVARD AND WARDLOW THAT'S OPEN 24 7 AND THEY AT LEAST WILL DO A 24 HOUR HOLD AND DO A COMPLETE ASSESSMENT SUPPOSEDLY AND DETERMINE IF THERE'S ABILITY TO GET THEM INTO BEDS SOMEWHERE IN THE COUNTY SYSTEM.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE AT THE VERY INITIAL STAGES OF DISCUSSING THIS.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE INFORMATION ON THIS? I KNOW TOO.
MEETING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW ARE INDIVIDUALS REFERRED TO COUNTY
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MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES? WHAT ARE SOME OF THE ROADBLOCKS TO GETTING INTO LIKE THE COUNTY AND NOT OUT? I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT OUTPATIENT.'CAUSE I KNOW PEOPLE, I KNOW PEOPLE WHO GET ASSIGNED A COUNTY MENTAL HEALTH WORKER OR EVEN, OR EVEN M-H-A-L-A AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE LIVING OUT ON THE STREETS AND THE OUTREACH WORKER WILL COME TO THEM AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE AN APPOINTMENT WITH YOUR MENTAL HEALTH CLINICIAN ON APRIL 2ND AT 10:00 AM AND LO AND BEHOLD, APRIL 2ND COMES AROUND, THEY'RE NOT GONNA MAKE THAT APPOINTMENT.
THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW IT'S APRIL 2ND, UH, LET ALONE GO DOWN.
I MEAN, SOME OF 'EM DO, SOME OF THEM DO MAKE THEIR APPOINTMENTS, BUT TO ME IT'S SORT OF LIKE THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
IT'S LIKE YOU NEED TO GET 'EM STABILIZED A BIT BEFORE YOU HAND THEM THAT APPOINTMENT CARD.
I MEAN THAT JUST, I, I'VE JUST SEEN THAT TOO MANY TIMES.
AND, AND THEN THEY MISS THE APPOINTMENT AND THEY, THE SAME WORKER WILL COME AND SAY, WELL YOU KNOW WHAT, I CAN MAKE YOU ANOTHER APPOINTMENT.
AND I'M THINKING, OKAY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS, BUT IT'S OKAY.
I, I THINK WE NEED MORE INFORMATION ON THIS OF WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON.
UM, SO AS FAR AS I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS DEADLINE OF HOW DO WE WORK THIS OUT IN THIS COMMITTEE AND GET IT BEFORE HAYSTACK TO APPROVE EVERYTHING BY JUNE.
SO OKAY, ITEM NUMBER ONE, SOMETHING ON THE SHELTER RATE.
I WILL COMPOSE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO LAST YEAR, MAYBE WITH SOME EXAMPLES OF PROGRESS THE CITY HAS MADE.
NOTING THAT JULIE THINKS SOME PROJECTS MAYBE WERE A BIT EXPENSIVE AND SAY LOW COST PROGRESS, COST, COST, COST EFFECTIVE, LOW COST.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO MENTION THE NAME OF THAT HOUSE, MORE PEOPLE INTO SHELTER AND JUST SAY, WE NEED TO KEEP INNOVATING TO GET MORE PEOPLE SHELTERED.
UM, AND SOME MIGHT BE THE TYPES OF GROUP LIVING SITUATIONS AND DORMITORIES YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT.
CREATE ADDITIONAL PERMANENT SHELTER.
SO WE'LL GET SOME DRAFT, CREATE ADDITIONAL PERMANENT SHELTERS.
I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S REALLY TOO BAD THAT WE CAN'T FIND A PLACE THAT WE HAVE ABANDONED THE IDEA OF HAVING A SAFE CAMPING PLACE OR EVEN THE TINY HOMES WHO THAT ARE SOMEWHERE.
THE FACT THAT WE'VE, WE'VE JUST BROUGHT THAT WHOLE IDEA.
I THINK THAT'S TOO BAD BECAUSE THAT'S LESS EXPENSIVE THAN PROBABLY ALMOST ANYTHING WE COULD RECOMMEND.
ALL WE NEED IS THE LEAD AND THE, SOME KIND OF, WELL, ACTUALLY FACILITIES IT DID REPLY THAT MADE IT WE'LL BE FINE.
UM, SO ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL WE'LL FLESH THAT OUT, BUT WE'LL GET A DRAFT THERE.
NOW THE NUMBER TWO THING IS FOLLOWING UP ON OUR HYGIENE, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND SO I THINK THIS IS A CHANCE TO CONGRATULATE THE CITY AND SAY, FABULOUS.
WE'RE SO GLAD THAT THE CITY HAS MADE IT A PRIORITY TO PURCHASE A SHOWER TRUCK.
WE'RE PART, PART ONE OF THREE OF THIS HYGIENE PROGRAM HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED AND WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT THAT IN ANY WAY POSSIBLE.
AND THEN WE COULD, WE COULD ACTUALLY USE THAT AS, UH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF INCENTIVIZE IT BECAUSE IT'S IN OUR OFFICIAL POLICY MM-HMM
SO THAT MAKES IT OFFICIAL THAT WE APPRECIATE THEIR EFFORTS.
HOW ARE YOU? UH, HERE FOR THE NEXT SPEAKER.
AND I, I WAS THINKING IN NUMBER TWO THAT WE SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, WE SEE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO USE THE MAYOR'S FUND FUND INNOVATIVE PILOTS.
AND SO WE, WE URGE THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL TO WORK ON FUNDRAISING FOR THIS TO HELP SUPPORT PILOTS AND INITIATIVES FOR HYGIENE SIMILAR TO A DA TOILETS AND TRASH BAGS.
SO IS THAT KIND OF THE REC LIKE, YOU KNOW, AS WE SAID LAST YEAR, WE THINK THESE THREE THREE ARE IMPORTANT.
I FULLY, I FULLY BELIEVE THAT IF WE HAD A SPACE WHERE THEY COULD, WE'VE SEEN THEM PUT UP TENS AND WE HAD, THEY HAD A SHOWER, THE SHOWER TRUCK COME IN AND THEY HAD THE, THEY HAD BATHROOM THERE AND YOU KNOW, JUST SIMPLE STUFF.
AND THEN THEY WOULD BE THERE WHERE THEY COULD GET SERVICES WHERE THEY COULD GET RIDES TO PLACES.
WE DID SARAH AND I AND OTHERS ON THE COMMITTEE, WE DID A LOT OF LOBBYING FOR THE SAFE SLEEP AND THERE WAS NOT A CHAMPION THAT RAISED THEIR HAND FOR IT AND IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO GET IT DONE.
WE GOT LIKE HELICOPTER PICTURES OF POTENTIAL PLACES THAT COULD GO IN THE CITY
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COULDN'T GET ANYBODY TO CHAMPION IT.THAT'S THE ONE WITH THE, THE TENTS.
BUT THEN, THEN THEY ALSO, WASN'T THAT THE ONE WHERE THEY WENT UP TO KIND OF A LOCATION WHERE THE PERFORMANCE WAS, IT WASN'T BEING QUITE FULLY UTILIZED CULVER CITY OR SOMETHING? CULVER CITY WAS GREAT.
I KNOW YOU SAW IT BUT THEN LATER, LATER THEY WENT TO IT AND TOWARD IT AND THEY WEREN'T HAPPY WITH IT.
NO, THEY SAID THAT IT WAS TOO COSTLY.
BUT THAT WAS BECAUSE CULVER CITY TOO COSTLY BECAUSE CULVER CITY DECIDED TO GLAMP IT, BUT IT WAS, IS NOT NECESSARILY WHAT LONG BEACH WOULD DO.
BUT THEY HAD LIKE BEAUTIFUL FLOWER POTS THAT THE GIRL SCOUTS HAD POTTED AND PUT ON THE PARK PORCH.
THEY DID NOT DO ADDITIONAL TENTS.
SO WAS IT BECAUSE THERE IS NO INTEREST OR BECAUSE WE GOT THE IMPRESSION THAT PAUL AND THE TEAM DOES NOT THINK IT'S THE BEST USE OF FUNDING BECAUSE STAFFING WOULD STILL BE EXPENSIVE.
AND THEY THOUGHT THAT OTHER MODELS WOULD BE BETTER IN THE LONG TERM.
THEY SAID IF YOU'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, PAY FOR ROUND THE CLOCK STAFFING, PUT PEOPLE IN A DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT, IT'S BETTER THAN PAYING TWO, TWO AND A HALF MILLION FOR A PROPERTY AND THEN PUTTING ANOTHER, WELL, IT'S BETTER THAN HAVING PEOPLE ON HOUSE.
SO I THINK, I THINK WE HAVE SOME IDEAS FOR OUR DRAFT RECOMMENDATIONS.
I WILL DRAFT SOMETHING, FIRST OF ALL TO LOOK AT IN OUR NEXT MEETING BASED ON THIS DISCUSSION.
AND THEN WE CAN GET IT IN SHAPE TO TAKE IT TO FULL SAC.
UM, ANY, ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? WELL YOU CAN DO IT ALSO, 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT THIS, WE SHOULD PUT THIS IN THE APRIL HAY SAC MEETING, THIS DRAFT BECAUSE WE NEED TO HAVE THE FULL BODY REVIEW IT.
SO IF YOU WANNA PUT, OKAY, SO BASED ON THIS DISCUSSION, I'LL DRAFT THREE PARAGRAPHS AND THEN WHEN WE GET OR THREE LINES FROM THE OTHERS, WE'LL COME BACK AND FINE TUNE IT FOR THE FINAL FOUR BECAUSE THAT SOUNDS GOOD.
AND YOU'LL INCLUDE LANGUAGE ABOUT USING THE MAYOR'S FUND TO NUMBER NUMBER TWO.
PER OUR RECOMMENDATION TO FOCUS ON HYGIENE.
LET'S, LET'S HEAVILY PORTA POTTIES, TRASH CANS, ETC.
ALL IN FAVOR OF, UH, RECEIVING AND FILING THIS DISCUSSION.
ALRIGHT, LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS AND APPROVE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. UM, OTHER THAN THESE TWO ITEMS, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE SHOULD BE DISCUSSING IN OUR NEXT MEETING AS A POLICY? NO.
'CAUSE THAT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT OF TIME.
I WOULD SAY BASED ON WHAT WE HEAR BACK ABOUT COUNTY MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES, MAYBE THERE'LL BE AN ITEM AROUND.
YEAH, WE ACTUALLY NEED A LOT MORE INFORMATION.
GET MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT, YEAH.
CAN WE GET A MOTION? SORRY TO DISCUSS A MOVED SECOND.
THAT GOOD? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? OKAY.
ALL IN FAVOR OF RECEIVING AND FILING A AYE.
ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE WAY? I'M STILL TRYING TO GET THE, YOU'RE STILL WAITING FOR THE TOUR OF THE LUXURY AND IT'S OPEN FACILITY.
JUST, JUST REALLY QUICK, ARE THERE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS AND THEN I'LL ADJOURN THE MEETING.
MEETING ADJOURNED SO FAR WE DON'T.