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CALL THE MEETING OF EMPLOYEE RIGHTS AND APPEALS COMMISSION TO ORDER AT 9 0 5.WOULD WE FOLLOW ROLL PLEASE? COMMISSIONER
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S PRESENT.COMMISSIONER ABT, VICE PRESIDENT.
I KNOW COMMISSIONER GARNER HAD INDICATED HE WASN'T GONNA BE ABLE TO COME, SO I'M PRESUMING BOTH HE AND COMMISSIONER LER ARE, ARE EXCUSED ABSENCES.
I SO EXCUSED, BUT THEY'RE NOT HERE.
I KNOW THEY'RE NOT HERE, BUT JUST FOR THE RECORD, I WANT TO SHOW THAT THEY ARE EXCUSED.
ALL RIGHT, THEN LET'S GO TO THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING
[2. 26-54314 Recommendation to approve the minutes of Administrative Hearing 13-S-2122. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
13 S 2 1 22.DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE MOVE BY COMMISSIONER.
COMMISSIONER EARLY AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GUO GOODE.
IS IT, IS THERE ANY COMMENT, ANY DISCUSSION? ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE TO A VOTE.
COMMISSIONER ALER, VICE PRESIDENT GARDNER.
CAN I, IT, WILL IT STILL PASS IF I ABSTAIN? BECAUSE I WASN'T HERE FOR THAT.
ALL RIGHT, THEN I WILL VOTE FROM THE AFFIRMATIVE.
YES, YOU CAN VOTE EVEN IF YOU WEREN'T HERE FOR THE MINUTES.
LET'S DO YOUR ANNOUNCEMENTS IF YOU
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OKAY.THEN WE WILL MOVE INTO ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.
[PUBLIC COMMENT Opportunity to address the Civil Service Employee Rights and Appeals Commission on non-agenda items. Each speaker is limited to three minutes to make their comments unless extended by the President.]
NO.SO THEN WE WILL MOVE INTO ITEM 26 5 4 4 3 9.
UH, FOR THE SAKE OF, UH, THE RECORDING, YES.
AND YOU GUYS WILL, UH, UM, UH, CONVENE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.
SO THE TIME IS, WE'RE DOING NUMBER 2, 3 1 2 OH.
BUT BASICALLY WANNA READ THOSE INTO, NO, I MISSED, I MISSED, I MISSED ITEM TWO.
OH, I THINK I DID THAT ONE BEFORE.
I DID THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR THE MEETING ON MONDAY, DECEMBER 22ND.
SO I, I DID, I'M SORRY, GARY, I SKIPPED ITEM ONE AND I WENT DIRECTLY THE ITEM TWO BECAUSE WASN'T MY MOTION.
WHAT DIDN'T I ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING? SHE 13 THOUGH WE NEED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF DECEMBER 22ND, CORRECT.
[1. 26-54316 Recommendation to approve the minutes for the Civil Service Employee Rights and Appeals Commission meeting of Monday, December 22, 2025. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
YEAH.AND YOU GET IT WAS MOVED BY COMMISSIONER OWEN.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MINUTES OF THE MONDAY, DECEMBER 22ND, 2025? MEET ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? LET'S MOVE TO A VOTE.
COMMISSIONER ALER, VICE PRESIDENT.
WE'RE GOING TO HEAR AN APPEAL.
[4. 26-54439 Discussion of applicant’s appeal to the Commission regarding their disqualification from the hiring process. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]
ON APPLICANT'S APPEAL.26 5 4 4 3 9 ORIGINAL NUMBERS RIGHT THERE.
DISCUSSION OF APPLICANT'S APPEAL TO THE COMMISSION REGARDING THEIR DISQUALIFICATION FROM THE HIRING PROCESS.
THERE, YOU WANNA TAKE IT FROM HERE? UH, I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A MOTION OR A SECOND.
WE'RE GONNA REVERSE THE ORDER ON WHO MOTION AND WHO, JUST FOR THE RECORD.
THAT WAS MOTION BY COMMISSIONER, UH, LAR GOOD.
AND A SECOND BY, UH, COMMISSIONER S.
CAN YOU COME AROUND AND FACE THE COMMISSION ON THIS SIDE? SO, MR. DOINA, THE, UH, COMMISSION HAD RECEIVED YOUR, UM, REQUEST FOR AN APPEAL REGARDING YOUR APPLICATION, UM, THE BRIDGER, UM, INFORMATION.
IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANNA SAY TO THE COMMISSION? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I'M VERY GLAD THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO RECEIVE MY APPEAL AND I HEAR VERY MUCH TO, TO MY KIDS SINCE I REALLY WANTED TO WORK FOR THE CITY OF LONG BEACH IN ONE OF MY EXPECTATIONS OR SINCE I CAN.
IS THERE ANYTHING ABOUT THE PROCESS YOU'VE BUILT IS UNFAIR THAT YOU WANT TO EXPRESS TO COMMISSION? WELL, I, I JUST THINK THAT SOMETIMES, UH,
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YOU MAY NOT EXPRESS, UH, WHAT IS NEEDED.SO THAT ALLOWS YOU TO BE, UH, SMART BY HERE.
YOU ASKED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS TO CLARIFY ANYTHING THAT MAYBE NEEDED.
I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF YOU COULD TELL THE COMMISSION WHAT YOU BELIEVE IS YOUR EXPERIENCE THAT WAS EXCLUDED, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
WELL, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND AND AN ENVIRONMENTAL PROFESSIONAL HAVE WORKED, UH, AFFECT ENVIRONMENT A FEW YEARS IN MY LIFE, ESPECIALLY, UH, THE OLD INDUSTRY, NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL.
AND I DON'T SEE THE REASON WHY STOPPED.
UM, THAT PRESCRIPTION SAYS YOU NEED TO HAVE RELEASE FOUR YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.
UM, PETER TH AND STEVEN LES, WHO CAN ADDRESS THE COMMISSION IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM HR REGARDING THE APPLICATION REJECTION AND, UH, UM, SURE.
WE HAVE THE WITNESS TAKE A SEAT.
WE HAVE HR, SHE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ANY, WELL, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? NO.
I'D LIKE TO ASK THAT THEY, UM, WE HAVE THE, UM, ISSUE, UH, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE RECEIVED VARIOUS INFORMATION I WANTED CONFIRM THAT I'M ON YEAH, THAT'S ALREADY HR.
THERE'S ONE MORE THING BEFORE I SURE.
I'M HERE TO, TO BRING TO THE TABLE AND
YOU MAY NEED TO ASSESS MY QUALIFICATIONS FOR THIS POSITION.
I WAS ACCEPTED FOR THE LOCAL POSITION AS AN ASSOCIATE ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE, BUT I THINK THAT WITH MY QUALIFICATIONS, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO ASPIRE
SO IF YOU EVER NEED ANYTHING, IT MAY NOT HAVE IT WITH ME.
UH, WE WANT TO BRING IN ORIGINAL OR COPIES.
I, I DIDN'T BRING ALL THE STUFF I MY CAR IF I NEED TO, I COME BACK HERE MORE THAN HAVE TO DO, SIR.
SO, UH, THE DOCUMENTATION THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU CAN PRESENT TO US, WAS THAT PRESENTED IN YOUR APPLICATION PROCESS? OH, YOU SAID REQUESTED.
OH, YES, BUT I, I DO HAVE A LABS RECOMMENDATION MM-HMM
I BUT AS FAR AS YOUR QUALIFICATIONS OH YEAH.
EVERYTHING AS MUCH AS I I, YES, WE WILL HEAR FROM HUMAN RESOURCES.
HI, INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND THEN YEAH, MY NAME'S UH, STEVEN ROBLES.
I'M A PERSONAL ANALYST, UH, WITH THE TALENT ACQUISITION BUREAU OF RESEARCH,
SO CAN YOU GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF THE POSITION THAT YOU APPLIED FOR AND WHAT YOUR DECISION MAKING WAS IN DETERMINING HE DIDN'T MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS? YEAH.
SO THE POSITION WAS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL SPECIALIST ONE TO TWO, WHICH DEPART THE DEPARTMENT.
UH, THE REQUIREMENTS FILED FOR THE POSITION WERE A BACHELOR'S DEGREE, UM, IN THE RELATED FIELD.
UM, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT, UH, FIELD, RIGHT.
BUT THERE WERE ENVIRONMENTAL RELATED FIELDS AND THEN FOUR YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.
UM, LET ME PUT, I CAN TELL THAT I EXPERIENCE.
SO IT WAS FOUR YEARS OF FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT PAID PROFESSIONAL LEVEL EXPERIENCE AND ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE, INCLUDING A WORKING KNOWLEDGE OF THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT, THE NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY ACT, THE COASTAL ACT, THE CLEAN WATER ACT, THE CLEAN AIR ACT, AND OTHER REGULATIONS RELATED TO THE TWO ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENTATION AND COMPLIANCE.
AND YOU DETERMINED THAT HE DIDN'T MEET THOSE QUALIFICATIONS BECAUSE, SO WHEN I WAS REVIEWING THIS APPLICATION, UM, YOU KNOW, TAKING IT AS TOLD THROUGH ALL OF THE, UM, APPLICATIONS THAT WE RECEIVED, UH, MY DETERMINATION WAS THAT HE DID NOT, UH, MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS, UH, RELATING TO THE SORT OF NATIONAL AND STATE REGULATIONS THAT ARE DETAILED IN THE REQUIREMENTS TO FILE, BECAUSE HE FAILED TO ADDRESS THAT IN HIS APPLICATION, OR I WOULD SAY, UM, BECAUSE OF THE VAST MAJORITY OF HIS EXPERIENCE WITH INTERNATIONAL, UM,
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I DIDN'T SEE IT TRANSLATING INTO THESE NATIONAL AND, UH, STATE LEGISLATIONS.UH, SO THAT WAS MY MAIN DETERMINATION OF HIM NOT BEING AFRICAN AMERICAN.
UM, SO, BUT HIS, HIS, SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT HIS EXPERIENCE OUTSIDE OF THE UNITED STATES NOT QUALIFIED FOR NATIONAL? SO IT WAS SORT OF MY DETERMINATION AS A WHOLE OF ALL OF HIS EXPERIENCE.
UM, I DID CREDIT SOME OF HIS EXPERIENCE, UM, BUT I DIDN'T SEE THAT IT MEANT THAT FOUR YEAR REQUIREMENT.
SO I GUESS I WOULD NEED TO ASK, UM, THE APPLICANT QUESTIONS REGARDING THE NUMBER OF LEADERS OF SERVICE THAT HE HAS WITH TAKE THAT WOULD'VE, UM, BECAUSE I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THE CITY OF LONG BEACH ALSO TAKES INTO EFFECT, UM, YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND HOW IT EQUATES TO, UM, THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PHYSICIAN MM-HMM
UH, AND SO, UH, WITHOUT SEEING HIS APPLICATION, UM, TO BE FRANK, I HAVE NOT SEEN IT.
UM, BUT THEN ALSO THE, UM, THE JOB DESCRIPTION, I'VE NOT SEEN THAT EITHER.
I THINK, UM, IT'S, WELL, I THINK WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILS RELATED TO THE ACTUAL RECRUITMENT ITSELF.
UM, WHETHER OR NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU RECEIVED, YOU KNOW, 300 APPLICATIONS, WHETHER OR NOT, UM, YOU ACTUALLY SCREEN THEM.
UM, STEVEN, OR DO YOU HAVE LIKE A PEOPLE SOURCE, UH, SYSTEM THAT WOULD, UM, SCREEN 'EM? WHAT TYPE OF ANALYSIS, UM, DO YOU ACTUALLY TAKE? AND IT SOUNDS AS THOUGH YOU DID REVIEW THE DOCUMENTS MM-HMM
UM, BUT I FEEL THAT, UM, THIS TIME I'M, I'M JUST MISSING SOME INFORMATION HERE TO SEE, UH, HOW YOU EQUATED THAT.
UM, IF I MAY GIVE SORT OF LIKE A OVER OVERVIEW OF, I MEAN, I COULD GO INTO THE RECRUITMENT OF THE PROCESS, LIKE YOU'RE
SO, UM, WE POST THE BULLETIN, WE RECEIVE APPLICATIONS.
I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT APPLICATION ACCOUNT IN FRONT OF THE, AT THE MOMENT.
UM, BUT WE DO, BASED OFF OF WHAT THE CANDIDATES, UM, SELECT IN THEIR APPLICATION, WHEN THEY SUBMIT IT, IT GOES THROUGH AN INITIAL REVIEW IF THEY'RE DETERMINED TO STATE IN THE APPLICATION THAT THEY MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS.
UM, MR. MEDINA AND DENNIS DID GO THROUGH THAT INITIAL REVIEW THAT HE DID MEET THE, UM, HE STATED IN HIS APPLICATION THAT HE MET THOSE REQUIREMENTS.
SO THEN I, AS AN ANALYST GO INTO, UH, EACH REQUIREMENT TO DETERMINE IF WHAT WAS STATED IN THE APPLICATION, IF THE, UM, BACHELOR DEGREE WAS UPLOADED AND IF IT'S CORRECT.
UM, SO THEN I WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS WITH HIS APPLICATION.
UM, SO THAT'S SORT OF THE OVERVIEW OF, OF THE ANALYSIS OF THE APPLICATION.
UM, AND THEN I MAY SORT OF TAKE A STEP BACK AT THE MOMENT.
UM, SO I WILL SAY, UM, I, I DID KIND OF DRAFT A TIMELINE OF THIS, UM, APPEAL, AND I DO THINK THE TIMELINE IS A HUGE FACTOR INTO THIS.
UM, AND THEN THAT KIND OF GOES INTO THE RECRUITMENT PROCESS AS WELL.
SO THIS, UM, RECRUITMENT DID HAVE AN EXAMINATION COMPONENT.
UM, THE EXAMINATION COMPONENT IS AN APPRAISAL INTERVIEW.
AND WHAT WE DO FOR THE APPRAISAL INTERVIEWS IS WHEN WE SCREEN APPLICANTS AND WE DETERMINE THAT THEY MEET THEM AND WE QUALIFICATIONS, WE INVITE THEM TO PARTICIPATE IN THE APPRAISAL INTERVIEW.
IT'S A PRERECORDED INTERVIEW, UM, THAT IS THEN REVIEWED BY SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS TO, UM, GIVE THEM A GRADE, UM, IF THEY ACTUALLY READ THE QUALIFICATIONS OR NOT.
SO WE, WE RELY ON SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, UM, TO REVIEW THESE APPRAISAL INTERVIEWS.
UM, MR. IDINA WAS PROVIDED HIS DISPOSITION, UM, ON DECEMBER 12TH, 2025.
HE WAS SENT A DISPOSITION NOTICE VIA EMAIL STATING THAT HIS APPLICATION CANNOT BE ACCEPTED DUE TO INSUFFICIENT EXPERIENCE OF DETAILED DROP BULLETIN FROM DECEMBER 16TH THROUGH THE 23RD.
CANDIDATES WHO WERE DETERMINED TO MEET MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS WERE, UM, PARTICIPATED IN THAT APPRAISAL INTERVIEW PROCESS THROUGHOUT THAT TIME.
UH, US AS ANALYSTS, WE REACH OUT TO NEIGHBORING AGENCIES, UH, SOURCE SUCH AS THE PORT OF LA UH, MANHATTAN BEACH TO BE THESE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS TO VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME TO ASSIST US WITH OUR RECRUITMENTS.
SO FROM JANUARY 7TH THROUGH THE FEE, UM, WE HAD, UM, CONDUCTED THOSE APPRAISAL INTERVIEWS WITH THOSE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, UM, WHO ANALYZED THE CANDIDATE INTERVIEW SUBMISSIONS TO DETERMINE IF THEY MET THE MINIMAL REQUIREMENTS.
FROM JANUARY 14TH THROUGH THE 15TH, AN ELIGIBILITY LIST OF 26 CANDIDATES WAS APPROVED BY THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, UM, WHICH WAS THEN FORWARDED TO OR REFERRED TO THE REQUISITION BY THE HARVARD DEPARTMENT.
UM, AGAIN, THAT WAS JANUARY 14TH THROUGH THE 15TH.
AND THEN ON FEBRUARY 5TH IS WHEN WE RECEIVED, UM, OUR FIRST EMAIL FROM MR. ME SORT OF INQUIRING ON THE APPEAL PROCESS.
UM, SO AGAIN, KIND OF JUST TAKING A STEP BACK, HE WAS INITIALLY NOTED, NOTIFIED ON DECEMBER 12TH, UH, BUT WE DIDN'T GET A FIRST COMMUNICATION UNTIL FEBRUARY 5TH.
AND I, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF JUST NEED THAT,
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THAT KIND OF FACTOR IN THIS PROCESS.UM, BUT DO THE CITY, I'M SORRY FOR INTERRUPT.
YOU DO THIN REGULATIONS FOR POLICY, YOU HAVE A TIMELINE.
DID THE LETTER THAT HE RECEIVED GIVE HIM A WINDOW WITHIN WHICH HE NEEDED TO APPEAL? UM, THE ION NOTICE IS NOT IN THAT, UM, TIMELINE.
AND PETER, I DON'T KNOW IF WE SPEAK ON THE CLASSIFIED PROCESS.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC CLASSIFIED APPEAL PROCESS OR CLASSIFIED REVIEWS, THOUGH WE TEND TO DEFER TO THE TIMEFRAMES THAT WE HAVE FOR SOME OF OUR OTHER PRACTICES, UH, IN PHARMACEUTICAL MATTERS.
FOR EXAMPLE, OUR UNCLASSIFIED APPEAL PROCESS ALLOWS, UM, APPLICANTS TO GO AHEAD AND, YOU KNOW, PROTEST WITHIN IDENTIFYING BUSINESS DAY WINDOW PERIOD.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE OUR, UM, EXAMINATION WHICH PROTESTS, WHICH ALLOWS CANDIDATES TO PROTEST WITHIN A TWO DAY BUSINESS PERIOD.
SO WE TEND TO STICK TO WITHIN A REASONABLE TIMEFRAME, UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, UM, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO SERVE THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WE HAVE AND IN ORDER TO MOVE THE RECRUITMENT PROCESS FORWARD, UM, GIVEN A DETERMINE, UH, TO THE BOARD OF THE PROCESS OF ALL HEARING AGAIN MM-HMM
SO IF I'M HEARING CORRECTLY, THE CANDIDATE DID, UH, HE MADE IT THROUGH THE FIRST PROCESS, THE INITIAL INTERVIEW PAPERWORK TO GET INTO THE FIRST ORAL INTERVIEW? NO, THAT'S NOT FAIR.
SO, UM, WHEN THEY SUBMIT APPLICATIONS, WE ASK THEM SUPPLEMENTAL QUESTIONS, RIGHT.
DO YOU HAVE THE BACHELOR'S DEGREE CHECKBOX? UH, DO YOU HAVE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE? CORRECT, YES.
AND THE PROCESS, HE PASSED THAT PROCESS.
HE PASSED THAT PROCESS, CORRECT.
AND THEN HE WENT TO A VIDEO INTERVIEW? NO, SO I REVIEWED HIS APPLICATION AFTER THAT, UH, AFTER HE WENT THROUGH THE FIRST SORT OF SELF SCREENING, AND THEN THAT'S WHEN I MADE MY DETERMINATION THAT HE DID NOT MEET THE
UM, SO HE WAS NOT INVITED TO THE INTERVIEW, UM, BUT HE WAS NOTIFIED, UM, PRETTY, UH, FIVE BUSINESS DAYS BEFORE WE STARTED THOSE INTERVIEWS.
AND TO PETER'S POINT, WE ALWAYS GIVE, UH, CANDIDATES FIVE BUSINESS DAYS TO PREPARE FOR THE INTERVIEWS, AND THAT ALLOWS US ENOUGH TIME TO, UH, YOU KNOW, RECEIVE APPEALS.
UM, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FROM CANDIDATES, UH, WE WANNA GIVE THEM THOSE DISPOSITION NOTICES AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, UM, THAT GIVES US LIKE FULL TIME TO CORRECT THOSE MATTERS.
AND UNFORTUNATELY IN THIS CASE, UH, IT WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, OVER TWO MONTHS THAT WE RECEIVED A, A COMMUNICATION FROM MR. VINA.
I WOULD SAY THAT, UM, ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THAT OBVIOUSLY YOU REBUTTING UP AGAINST THE HOLIDAYS, UM, HAVING HAD THE, UM, APPRAISAL INTERVIEWS CONDUCTED BETWEEN DECEMBER 20 16TH AND THE 23RD.
BUT I THINK WHAT I'M ALSO HEARING IS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A COMMUNICATED TRANSPARENT PROCESS OF APPEALS OR A TIMELINE.
AND I THINK THAT, UM, WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, UH, I HAVE SEEN, UM, HAVING HIRED THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA A, A PROCESS THAT IN THE RECRUITMENT, UM, UH, UH, WINDOW.
UM, I, I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR, UM, PARTICULAR, UM, UH, QUALIFICATIONS FOR THIS POSITION.
AND IT SOUNDS AS THOUGH BASED ON NATIONAL STATE REGULATIONS, UM, FOR ENVIRONMENTAL PROCESSES, UM, THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A PARTICULAR TYPE OF, UM, UM, EXPERIENCE TO, TO FILL THIS ROLE.
I THINK, UM, BUT I, I ALSO THINK THAT BECAUSE OF THE, UM, THE FACT THAT THAT TYPE OF, UH, TIMELINE WAS NOT COMMUNICATED, IT GIVES ME CONCERN BECAUSE OF ANY, UH, MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD WANNA APPLY FOR THESE POSITIONS.
UH, HE OBVIOUSLY FEELS THAT HE'S, UM, UM, QUALIFIED, UM, BUT THEN ALSO UNDERSTANDING MISSILE SERVICE PRODUCT.
AND I KNOW THAT, UM, WITHIN, YOU KNOW, ANY HR DEPARTMENT YOU HAVE YOUR, YOUR, UM, GUIDELINES THAT YOU'VE FOLLOW IN TERM, HOW WE COMMUNICATE THEM TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IS VERY HELPFUL.
UM, I THINK THAT WE HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES, UM, IN ORDER TO STRENGTHEN, UM, THE, THE, UM, UM, TIMELINES OF PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES.
I THINK WHAT STANDS UP, WHAT, WHAT, HOW HE, WHAT HE CAME INTO THE, UM, PROCESS WITH HIS THEORY TRANSLATE TO, UM, WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR FOR THIS PARTICULAR ROLE, UM, BASED ON THAT.
AND, UM, I JUST WANTED TO ASK, UM, WHEN THE, ON FEBRUARY 12TH WHEN HE ASKED FOR AN APPEAL, DID YOU, UM, THEN RELATE IT TO PETER FOR PETER'S ANALYSIS OF HIS, UM, APPLICATION? YEAH, SO HE WASN'T A THEATER DIRECTLY, BUT WE DO HAVE TO MEET ANALYSTS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.
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THAT TIME, I DID BRING A LEAD ANALYST INTO THE, UM, INTO THE PROCESS, AND HE, UM, SORT OF AGREED WITH MY INITIAL DISPOSITION AS WELL AS THE, THE TIMELINE OF EVENTS.THAT IS SORT OF THE, THE MAIN FACTOR, UM, IN, IN THIS, UH, UH, APPEAL.
UM, JUST BECAUSE AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE APPRAISAL INTERVIEW, UM, PROCESS, IT IS A VERY DIFFICULT, UH, PROCESS TO ACQUIRE THOSE APPRAISAL, UH, RATERS FROM SEPARATE AGENCIES.
UM, IT TAKES A LOT OF PLANNING TO GET THINGS SCHEDULED.
UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY, UM, IT, IT'S A LITTLE BIT, UM, IT, IT'S JUST, IT'S DIFFICULT.
ONE THINGS THAT WE EXPERIENCED WITH THE
UH, I, I WOULD ASK, UM, TO TRY TO THIS ISSUE BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE TIMELINE HAS ALREADY PASSED.
PROBABLY THE TOP THREE HAVE ALREADY GONE TO THE INTERVIEW, AN APPOINTMENT THAT'S PROBABLY BEEN MADE NOW IT'S LIKE THE MIDDLE OF MARCH.
IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, WORK, UH, WITH THE APPLICANT, UM, JUST TO LOOK AT, UM, POSITION TO PROVIDE HIM SOME COUNSELING TO SEE IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UM, FUTURE POSITIONS FOR HIM TO BE, UM, AWARE OF.
UM, AND FORTUNATELY, I THINK BECAUSE OF THE WAYS THE WHOLE SERVICE WORKS AND THESE APPOINTMENT PROCESSES WORK, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT YOU HAVE, UM, THE, UM, THE RECRUITMENT I WAS, I WAS GOING TO ADD, BECAUSE DID YOU OUTLINED FOR US HOW THE UNCLASSIFIED PROCESS WORKS.
AND EVEN THOUGH YOU DIDN'T GIVE HIM THAT TIMELINE, WHAT YOU HAVE COMMUNICATED IS THAT YOU WOULD'VE FOLLOWED THE UNCLASSIFIED PROCESS.
IF A LETTER GOES OUT TO AN UNCLASSIFIED PERSON SAYING THAT THEY DIDN'T MAKE THE CUT AND THEY HAVE THIS MANY DAYS TO APPEAL, DOES THE LETTER THAT GOES TO THEM ALSO SAY THAT THEY HAVE TIME WITHIN THAT APPEAL TO PRO PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT MAY CLARIFY THAT THEY MEET FOR THE MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS CORRECT.
SO THAT, AND THAT'S WHERE FETUS, OUR COMMISSIONER
AND I DON'T WANT YOU TO TAKE THIS AS A, AS A CRITICISM BECAUSE WE'RE ALL LEARNING HERE TOGETHER.
YOU ARE IN A NEW DEPARTMENT DOING THINGS A NEW WAY WITH THE NEW MANAGER SETTING THINGS UP.
WE ARE A NEW COMMISSION LOOKING AT THINGS FROM A DIFFERENT VIEWPOINT.
SO THIS, I VIEW THIS AS A LEARNING LESSON TOGETHER THAT, THAT WE WOULD PREFER IN THE FUTURE THAT ANY LETTERS THAT GO OUT ON CLASSIFIED ITEMS TO SPECIFY WHAT THAT APPEAL PROCESS IS, SO THAT THE EMPLOYEE KNOWS WHAT THAT APPEAL PROCESS IS.
AND AS COMMISSIONER GALLO GOOD SAID, I, I'M PRESUMING THAT THE POSITION'S ALREADY BEEN FILLED.
'CAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE THE APPELLANT, UH, THE, THE, THE BELIEF THAT HE'S GONNA HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A POSITION.
BUT HOW LONG IS THIS LIST ACTIVE FOR? IS IT, IS IT ACTIVE FOR A YEAR OR IS IT ACTIVE JUST UNTIL THE POSITION'S FILLED? IT'S ACTIVE FOR ONE YEAR.
THE REC THE LIST WAS REFERRED TO THE DEPARTMENT, UM, BACK IN JANUARY.
UM, SO THE DEPARTMENT HAS HAD THE LIST SINCE JANUARY, SO MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR SELECTION AGREEMENTS.
SO IF WE WERE TO GO FORWARD WITH THE PROCESS AND, AND PRESUME THAT HE'S DOING THE APPEAL, HE'S, HE WOULD'VE GOTTEN A LETTER THAT SAID, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, CAN WE GO? AND I, I HEAR YOUR CONCERN ABOUT THE, THE CHALLENGE OF GETTING SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT ON THIS ONE.
I THINK WE, WE MISSED THE VOTE AND NOT GIVING HIM THAT WINDOW WITHIN WHICH HE NEEDED TO APPEAL.
SO I THINK, CAN I HAVE THE DATES OF WHEN IT WAS, UH, YOU GAVE TWO DATES, HE WAS NOTIFIED AND THEN THE DATE THAT HE, UH, YES.
SO HE WAS NOTIFIED ON DECEMBER 12TH, AND HE SUBMITTED THE APPEAL ON FEBRUARY 16TH.
FEBRUARY 5TH, OR FEBRUARY? FEBRUARY 16TH.
UH, SO THE INITIAL COMMUNICATION, UM, WAS RECEIVED ON FEBRUARY 5TH, BUT THE OFFICIAL, UH, FORMAL APPEAL REQUEST WAS RECEIVED ON FEBRUARY 16TH AND YOUR FEBRUARY 5TH, UM, NOTIFICATION OR COMMUNICATION WITH, UM, CAN PROVIDED HIM
UM, I WAS SORT OF INCLUDED ON THAT EMAIL.
IT WAS DIRECTED TO THE LONG BEACH WORKFORCE INNOVATION NETWORK.
UH, HE WAS INQUIRING UNDER THIS POSITION NOTICE, UM, SORT OF, YOU KNOW, LOOKING INTO IT.
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THEN ON FEBRUARY 16TH, THE APPEAL WAS RELEASED.JUST WONDERING, YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION ON THIS SIDE TO BE CLEAR? HE WAS NOTIFIED DECEMBER 12TH, CORRECT? THAT WAS
ALRIGHT, SO WHAT'S THE MOTION? YOU, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING YOU SOMETHING WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION.
WELL, I, I THINK THAT IN THIS SITUATION, BECAUSE THE PROCESS HAS ALREADY REVIEWED, I THINK WE, YOU KNOW, SPEAKING HERE IN A PUBLIC MEETING, WHETHER OR NOT WE WANTED TO, UM, PROVIDE HIM EITHER SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, UH, COUNSELING SO THAT HE COULD SEE WHAT JOBS HE, HE ACTUALLY, UM, UH, CAN APPLY TO AND IS QUALIFIED FOR.
OR DO WE WANT TO HAVE HIS DOCUMENTATION WITH ADDITIONAL SUPPORT DOCUMENTS REVIEWED FOR THIS POSITION, WHO WOULD BE THE COUNSELOR FOR THE, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT PETER OR SOMEONE IN HR ALSO, WELL, THEY CANDIDATE FOR FUTURE JOBS THAT HE COULD POSSIBLY GO YES.
LOOKING AT HIS QUALIFICATIONS OR HIS AND HOW AND HOW TO DOCUMENT APPROPRIATELY THE EXPERIENCE LEVEL.
SO THAT, SO THAT CLARIFIES MM-HMM
BUT, OR DO WE HAVE HIM HAVE WORK PACKET? ITS, UM, APPLICATION, AGAIN, FIVE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT DOCUMENTS FOR THIS DECISION.
THEY'D HAVE TO GET THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS AGAIN, BUT IT WOULD, ARE WE MAKING THIS DECISION NOW OR DURING DELIBERATIONS? WE'RE DELIBERATING WE HONOR YOU MAKING IT NOW.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T THINK HR OWES CANDIDATES COUNSEL.
I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT I WOULD BE A PAPER AT ALL.
I THINK MY, MY CONCERN IS THAT, THAT IT WAS NO PROCESS OUT COMMUNICATING THAT TRANSPARENT
BUT WITH REGARDS TO THIS, THIS APPEAL, I THINK, I MEAN, ALL APPLICANTS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO SPEAK WITH HR ABOUT THEIR APPLICATION AND, AND GET INPUT AND ADVICE.
SO THAT WENT TO EVERYONE NOW, CORRECT? WELL, HE'S ASKING FOR, FOR HIM TO BE, TO, I UNDERSTOOD THAT THE REASON WE'RE HERE AND HE'S HERE TODAY, AND HE, HE STATED THAT HE WANTED US TO HAVE, HAVE US LOOK AT HIS, UH, APPLICATIONS FOR THIS POSITION, FOR THIS
HE WANTS TO STATE, HE WANTS TO BE REINSTATED IN THE PROCESS.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE ULTIMATE GOAL.
THAT'S, LET'S BE CLEAR, THAT'S WHAT HE'S LOOKING FOR.
HAVE WE ALREADY HIRED THIS POSITION? I THINK IT'S ALREADY BEEN SUBMITTED TO HARVARD FOR THEIR INTERVIEW SELECTION PROCESS.
I'M NOT SURE IF ANYONE'S BEEN HIRED.
BUT THE CATALYST HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO HARBOR TO START THE INTERVIEW PROCESS.
SO, BUT UNTIL SOMEONE'S APPOINTED, THE PROCESS IS STILL OPEN, UNLESS THAT'S DOCUMENTED IN SOME TYPE OF CODE.
UM, I, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE HIRING PROCESS IS WITH HARBOR.
UM, BUT WE GENERALLY ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF, UM, THIS IS JUST KIND OF BEST PRACTICE.
AND, UM, JUST, PETER, YOU CAN POP IN ON THIS AS WELL, LIKE THE MOST THEME FOR CLASSIFIED RECRUITMENTS OR EVEN UNCLASSIFIED RECRUITMENTS, WE FEEL WHEN WE ADD PEOPLE TO THE LIST AFTER THE FACT, THEY'RE KIND OF AT A DISADVANTAGE BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENT COULD HAVE ALREADY STARTED THOSE PROCESSES AND BEEN REVIEWING APPLICATIONS SINCE JANUARY.
THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT, YOU KNOW, HE HAS FILED AN APPEAL ON THIS RECRUITMENT AND IT'S UP TO HR TO ADDRESS IT.
BUT I THINK BEFORE WE GET TO THAT POINT WHERE I THINK YOU'RE HEADED ABOUT PLACING HIM ON THE LIST, ACCORDING TO HR, HE DOESN'T MEET THE MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS, HE HAS NO EXPERIENCE WHEN IT COMES TO STATE LAWS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR DISPOSITION.
WELL, HE DOCUMENT THAT ON HIS APPLICATION.
AND IF, IF HE HAD BEEN GIVEN, IF HE HAD BEEN GIVEN A TIMEFRAME WITHIN WHICH TO APPEAL, APPEAL PROCESS, HE MIGHT HAVE PROVIDED DOCUMENTATION HE MAY HAVE NEED OR MAYBE NOT.
EXCUSE ME IF I MAY INTERVENE TO DEFEND MY CASE.
I DID TRY TO CONTACT, UH, MR. STEVEN ROSE.
UH, I CALLED THE CITY AND ASKED HIM TO PLEASE, UH, HAVE HIM GIMME A CALL.
THAT HAPPENED, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IN JANUARY.
UH, I WAS KIND OF DISAPPOINTED ABOUT THAT, BUT I NEVER, I GOT HIM REPLY, SO I DECIDED TO CONTINUE TRYING TO GET WITH AN ANSWER WITH HIM.
AND I, I'M NOT, I I'M NOT ONLY HERE, UH, MEETING SOME, UM, EXPECTATIONS
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OF REQUIREMENT.I HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE IN URBAN PLANNING FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA.
I HAVE, UH, US, UH, EXPERIENCE, I WORK FOR THE CHARLOTTE COUNTY PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR ABOUT 16 MONTHS, UH, DURING PRACTICAL TRAINING.
I, I DO HAVE A LETTER TO PROVE THAT AS WELL, WHICH I DID BY ATTACHED TO THE APPLICATION.
UH, I'M JUST REALLY LOOKING FOR A CHANCE TO PROVE THAT I DO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS.
IF THERE WAS ANY, UH, CALL FROM MY PART NOT BEING MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT WHY I
MR. MEDINA, DO YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE WHEN IT COMES TO CALIFORNIA LAW ON, ON ENVIRONMENTAL MATTERS? THAT'S, THAT'S ONE THING I I WANT TO POINT OUT.
YOU, WHEN YOU WORK AS AN ENVIRONMENTAL PROFESSIONAL LAWS, NO MATTER WHERE YOU COME FROM, THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH, UH, PERMITTING PROCESSES, UH, APPLYING REGULATIONS.
AND THEY SEEM TO BE QUITE SIMILAR, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
IT'S NOT DEPENDENT UPON YOUR ACTUAL, UH, UH, PRESENCE WHERE YOU, WHERE YOU WORK.
GARY ASKED YOU VERY SPECIFICALLY, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY APP AND THE, THE REGULATIONS IN THERE? BECAUSE
I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE FLORIDA REGULATIONS.
AND THEY DO APPLY TO CALIFORNIA REGULATIONS.
SIR, WHEN YOU COMPLETED YOUR APPLICATION TO THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE, DID YOU, DID YOU PROVIDE ALL OF YOUR EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE AS IT APPLIES TO THE, UH, REQUIREMENTS OF THE POSITION? I SHOULD DID? I WAS MORE THAN I WAS REQUIRED EXPLAINING HOW MUCH COMPLIANCE EXPERIENCE I HAD, HOW MUCH PERMITTING EXPERIENCE I HAD, NOT ONLY UP TO 10 YEARS GOING BACK, WENT FAR BEYOND THAT TIME JUST TO PROVE MY CASE FOR HR.
UM, I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY THAT HIS EXPERIENCE LEVEL IS, OR ACTUALLY WORK IN THE FIELD, IS WHAT DISQUALIFIED HIM AT HIS ACTUAL, UH, ACCREDITATIONS.
SO EVEN IF HE WAS, YOU, UH, HAVE MORE CREDIT AGENTS THAT HE SAYS AND HE CAN PRODUCE, THIS IS LACK OF FIELD KNOWLEDGE AND ACTUAL WORK EXPERIENCE THAT DISQUALIFIED AND NOT IS, UH, CORRECT.
AND I, I WOULD SAY THAT AT THIS POINT I WOULD ACCEPT FOR HR PUT INTO PLACE THAT I ALSO THINK THAT THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO ASK HR TO BUILD A, UH, APPEALS PROCESS.
I FEEL THAT, UM, MR.
FORTUNATELY THE APPLICANT DIDN'T HAVE THAT.
BUT I WOULD SAY THAT, UM, UH, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO BUILD, UM, A, UH, APPEAL PROCESS.
SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT FIND THAT SUPPORTS THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENTS FINDING THAT THE CANDIDATE DID NOT MEET THE MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE POSITION AS STATED IN THE BULLETIN.
AND ASK THAT THE DEPARTMENT GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE PROCESS FOR ADVISING CANDIDATES THAT THEY DID NOT MEET THE MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS AND SPECIFICALLY PUT INTO ANY LETTERS THAT GO TO THE CANDIDATES, ANY, UM, TIME PERIOD WITHIN WHICH TO APPEAL AND WHAT SPECIFICALLY THE APPEAL PROCESS IS.
IS THAT THE MOTION YOU'RE MAKING? THAT THAT IS MY MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? THAT WAS ABOUT MOTION
IT WAS, IT WAS, BUT SHE, IT KILLER.
UM, I HAVE A PROPOSED, UM, FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT, UH, THE COMMISSION WILL, UH, UPHOLD THE DISQUALIFICATION AS HR, UH, HAS ISSUED.
AND, UH, ALSO ASK STAFF TO REVIEW THE CURRENT, UH, UH, SORRY, UH, RE UH, REVIEW THE CURRENT APPEAL PROCESS.
THE NOTIFICATION LETTERS THAT GO OUT.
THAT THE NOTIFICATION LETTERS THAT GO OUT DEVELOPED, I THINK THAT THAT'S THE ISSUE.
AND IT SOUNDS AS THOUGH THERE WASN'T ONE.
YEAH, SO THAT'S WHERE THE REVIEW WOULD COMMENT IS, UH, IT WOULD REQUEST STAFF TO REVIEW THE, THE GENERAL PROCESS AND, AND POTENTIALLY CREATE THOSE, THOSE, I KNOW IT WAS REALLY THAT WORD REVIEW.
UM, I, I, I FEEL THAT WE NEED TO DEVELOP, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS AS THOUGH ONE ISN'T, WE CAN SAY, UH, AND REQUEST THAT YOU CAN ALWAYS HAVE THEM REVIEW THE MATTER AND HAVE THEM REPORT
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BACK TO YOU IN 30 DAYS.YEAH, I WAS GONNA TO COME BACK.
IS THAT, SO WE'LL HAVE THEM REVIEW AND WE'LL HAVE 'EM REPORT BACK TO, UH, AT THE NEXT AVAILABLE, UM, MEETING.
HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED? I THINK THAT'S FAIR.
THEY HAVE A DRAFT THAT HELPS US TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A PROCESS THAT SHE AGREED TO.
YEAH, I THINK WE CAN DEFINITELY COME BACK WITH UPDATE
AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU CAN HAVE 2, 3, 4, 5 QUALIFIED CANDIDATES AND YOU HAVE TO PICK FROM ONE OF THOSE CANDIDATES.
SO DURING THE QUALIFICATION PROCESS, YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING AND, AND AS THE PROCESS GOES ON, PEOPLE LEAD IT OUT.
SO WE ESTABLISH ELIGIBLE LIST FOR CLASSIFIED RECRUITMENTS.
UH, WE THEN PRODUCE THAT ELIGIBLE LIST TO THE HIRING DEPARTMENT AND THEN THEY GO THROUGH THE SUPPLY CHAIN INTERVIEWS.
UH, BUT IT IS OUR JOB AS BEING RESOURCES TO REVIEW ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS THAT COME IN.
UH, MAKE SURE THAT THEY MEET THEM IN REQUIREMENTS AND PLACE THAT ON AN ELIGIBILITY LIST.
MA'AM, JUST WANT SECOND? UM, DID YOU WANNA SECOND THE MOTION ON? I JUST DON'T WANT TO PUT ANY ADDITIONAL WORK ON HUMAN RESOURCES.
I THINK THE ONLY THING THEY HAVE TO DO UNDER THE MOTION, I, I'LL, I'LL SECOND IT JUST FOR PROCESS.
SO THE ONLY THING THAT THAT MOTION ASK THEM TO DO IS TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE, AND LOOK AT THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS TO DISQUALIFY JAN AND THEY COME BACK TO US WITH A REPORT ON HOW THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE IT MORE TRANSPARENT TO APPEAL.
OR I HAVE TIME IF I, IF I MAY CLARIFY SOMETHING, I, I AM ALREADY ON THE, UH, REQUALIFY LIST OR THAT SOCIAL ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENTIST POSITION.
AND HOW LONG DID THAT LIST, SIR? HOW LONG ARE YOU ON THAT LIST FOR? I THINK IT SAID IT TAKES ABOUT THE SAME TIME FOR WHOLE YEAR UNTIL THEY MAKE THE DECISION.
THEY CALL YOU LIKE THE BONUS, LIKE THE BONUS CAN BE LIKE, MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE SOME TYPE OF, UM, CUSTOMER SERVICE AND THAT, AND THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE OH, I DO, I HAVE ALMOST FIVE YEARS OF
I'M, I'M SAYING, I'M SAYING THAT SHE HAS THE SUPPORT, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, AFTER YOU QUALIFIED FOR A POSITION WITH THE CITY.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY I'M, I'M VERY PASSIONATE PUBLIC SERVANT.
I WANT AS MANY PUBLIC SERVICES WE CAN AND QUALIFY FOR THE CITY.
WE FILL THE GAPS IN THE NEEDS.
I'M, I'M DOING ALL I CAN TO, UM, GET THE PUBLIC SERVICE JOB GOING TO CIVIL SERVICE.
UM, CAN, MAY I ASK FOR THIS PARTICULAR, UH, RECRUITMENT? HOW MANY APPLICATIONS DID YOU HAVE? I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER.
UM, I WANNA SAY, UH, UH, I DON'T WANNA GET THE WRONG NUMBER.
WOULD YOU SAY IT WAS 200? I WOULD SAY CLOSE TO A HUNDRED.
AND THEN YOUR, UM, YOUR QUALIFIED LIST WAS WHEELED DOWN TO 26 TO 6 26? YES.
AFTER THE EXAMINATION PROCESS.
AND IS IT A STANDARD THAT YOU SEND THE TOP THREE OR THE TOP FIVE TO THE, TO THE, WE SEND MY ENTIRE LIST.
ARE THEY BANDED OR THEY JUST THE, SO THE LIST IS BANDED.
UM, WE DO THE ANALYSIS ON THAT.
UH, WE BAN THEM AND THEN PROVIDE THEM TO THEM.
DO THEY HAVE TO GO BAND 1, 2, 3 BEFORE THEY CAN SO THEY HAVE TO CLEAR BAND BEFORE THEY CAN GET YEAH, THAT WAS MY MOTION.
SO DO YOU WANNA JUST KIND OF REDO THE MOTION FOR US? YEAH.
SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE THAT, UH, THE COMMISSION WILL UPLOAD THE DISQUALIFICATION AS, UH, INDICATED BY HR.
AND, UH, YOU'RE REQUESTING, UH, HR REVIEW AND, UH, THE, THE CURRENT BILL PROCESS AND REPORT BACK.
DID WE SET A, UH, A DATE OR DID WE 60 DAYS.
AND I MADE, AND SO I, UM, MOTION.
IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS? ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY.
SEEING NO PUBLIC COMMENT WILL GO TO A VOTE.
COMMISSIONER ADAM, VICE PRESIDENT.
WE, WE WISH YOU LUCK FOR BEING HERE WITH US.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
AND AGAIN, THIS GONNA BE A PROCESS.
ALSO KNOW TO GO BACK AND TELL, TELL YOUR COLLEAGUES THAT THE QUESTIONS WE ASKED SO THAT YOU CAN PREPARED LIKE HOW MANY APPLICANTS THERE ARE.
GOT, WE'LL, KEEP LEARNING TOGETHER.
SO NOW WE WILL GO INTO CLOSED SESSION TO
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HEAR THE DISCIPLINARY APPEAL ON PAGE ZERO SIX, F 2 3, 2 4.DO I NEED A MOTION BEFORE WE GO INTO CLOSED SESSION? GARY? WE DO NOT AS, UM, I GOING TO CLOSE SESSION.
JUDGE, SHE, UH, MR. TRAVIS OPEN OR CLOSE? I GET TO PICK THAT ONE.
UH, THE TIME IS, UH, STILL? YEAH.
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YES PLEASE.