* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:08:06] [00:10:14] GOOD [CALL TO ORDER] [00:10:15] AFTERNOON EVERYONE. WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND, UH, CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR MARCH 19TH, 2026. MADAM CLERK, COULD YOU PLEASE, UH, CALL FOR THE ROLE? COMMISSIONER [ROLL CALL] CLEMSON. HERE. COMMISSIONER LEMI? HERE. COMMISSIONER SANTOS. HERE. COMMISSIONER TEMPLIN. HERE. VICE CHAIR. WHERE? HERE. CHAIR CASTILLO. PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'LL GO AHEAD AND START [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] IT WITH THE, THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. IF EVERYONE COULD PLEASE STAND AND, UH, FACE THE FLAG. ALL RIGHT. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD IN WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYONE. SO SINCE WE WILL BE HAVING, UH, HEARINGS TODAY FOR, WE'RE GONNA FIRST START OFF WITH THE SWEARING END OF WITNESSES. UM, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE GIVING A TESTIMONY, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE EVIDENCE YOU SHALL GIVE IN THIS PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING SHALL BE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU. OKAY, WE'LL GO TO ITEM ONE, PLEASE. ITEM ONE, [1. 26-54617 Recommendation to receive and file Director’s Report.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE DIRECTOR'S REPORT. CAN I HAVE A MAKER IN A SECOND? THANK YOU. KISHA SANTOS, AND COMMISSIONER WARE. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HAND IT OVER TO STAFF FOR THE DR THE REPORT. GOOD EVENING, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. JUST A COUPLE QUICK UPDATES HERE FROM THE STAFF TABLE. UM, YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT THIS COMMISSION RECOMMENDED, UH, SOME ZONING CODE AMENDMENTS RELATED TO THE MICRO-ENTERPRISE HOME KITCHEN, UM, UH, OPERATIONS PERMITS OR MIKO FOR SHORT. UM, THAT DID GO BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL LAST MONTH, BUT WAS CONTINUED TO A DATE SARA OF APRIL 14TH, UH, DUE TO SOME QUESTIONS RELATED TO, UH, POTENTIAL CHANGES TO OTHER PARTS, UM, IN TITLE V AND EIGHT. SO, JUST WANTED THE PUBLIC AND YOU TO BE AWARE, UH, THAT HEARING WAS CONTINUED TO APRIL 14TH AND THEN NEXT WEEK AT CITY COUNCIL. UM, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS SCHEDULED FOR THE, UM, SET OF ZONING AND CODE AMENDMENTS THAT YOU RECOMMENDED RELATED TO, UM, MOBILE FOOD FACILITIES, INCLUDING FOOD TRUCKS. UM, SO THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE STAFF SIDE. AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR DIRECTOR'S REPORT. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? SEEING NONE. ARE THERE ANY, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? ANYONE IN THE GALLEY? SEEING NONE. ANYONE VIRTUALLY. IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE USE YOUR RAISED HAND FEATURED NOW. IF DIALING IN TELEPHONICALLY, PRESS STAR NINE NOW. SEE NONE. THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL FOR THE VOTE. COMMISSIONER LIMO? YES, MOTION IS CARRIED. THANK YOU. UH, PLEASE READ THE NEXT ITEM. [2. 26-54618 Recommendation to approve the minutes for the Planning Commission meeting of Thursday, March 5, 2026.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] ITEM TWO, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF THURSDAY, MARCH 5TH, 2026. CAN I HAVE A MAKER AND A SECOND? THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SANTOS. COMMISSIONER WARE, ARE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES? SEEING NONE, NOT TAKE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE, ANYONE, UH, WISHING TO SPEAK VIRTUALLY. IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE USE YOUR RAVE HAND FEATURE. NOW. IF DIALING IN TELEPHONICALLY, PRESS STAR NINE NOW. THERE APPEARS TO BE NO, NO ONE AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL FOR THE VOTE. MOTION IS CARRIED. THANK YOU. WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT ITEM PLEASE. [3. 26-54660 Recommendation to accept Statutory Exemption SE-25-137 finding the project exempt from CEQA under Public Resources Code Section 21080.66 (CEQA Statute, AB 130) as the project is an eligible housing development under AB 130; Approve a Modification to Approved Permit (MOD25-018) for the previously approved Case No. 1908-14 for Site Plan Review (SPR19-035) and a Vesting Tentative Tract Map (VTTM19-003, No. 82912) for the “Mid-Block” project, aka “the center block of the Long Beach Civic Center,” which was approved on March 19, 2020, consisting of two eight-story buildings with 580 dwelling units, approximately 40,000 square feet of ground floor retail and 885 parking stalls in two levels of subterranean parking; the requested modification would increase the proportion of residential in the buildings so that there would be 729 dwelling units and approximately 2,651 square feet of ground floor commercial with 817 parking stalls in three levels of at-grade parking, and the Vesting Tentative Tract Map would change from two ground lots with 13 airspace subdivisions, to only two ground lots of 2.04 and 2.55 acres, located on a 4.59-acre site at 321 West Ocean Boulevard in the Downtown Plan (PD-30) Planned Development District;  Recommend that City Council approve an “Other Alternative Compliance Method” request pursuant to Section 21.67.080 to the requirements of Chapter 21.67 for the project’s compliance with the Inclusionary Housing Ordinance. (District 1)       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] ITEM THREE, RECOMMENDATION TO ACCEPT STATUTORY EXEMPTION [00:15:01] SE DASH 25 DASH 1 37. FINDING THE PROJECT EXEMPT FROM CA UNDER PUBLIC RESOURCES CODE SECTION 2 1 0 8 0.6 AS THE PROJECT IS AN ELIGIBLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT UNDER AB ONE 30, APPROVE A MODIFICATION TO APPROVED PERMIT FOR THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED CASE NUMBER 1 9 0 8 14 FOR SITE SITE PLAN REVIEW AND A VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT MAP FOR THE MIDBLOCK PROJECT, ALSO KNOWN AS THE CENTER BLOCK OF THE LONG BEACH CIVIC CENTER, WHICH WAS APPROVED ON MARCH 19TH, 2020, CONSISTING OF TWO EIGHT STORY BUILDINGS WITH 580 DWELLING UNITS, APPROXIMATELY 40,000 SQUARE FEET OF GROUND FLOOR RETAIL AND 8 85 PARKING STALLS IN TWO LEVELS OF SUBTERRANEAN PARKING. THE REQUESTED MODIFICATION WOULD INCREASE THE PROPORTION OF RESIDENTIAL IN THE BUILDINGS SO THAT THERE WOULD BE 729 DWELLING UNITS AND APPROXIMATELY 2,651 SQUARE FEET OF GROUND FLOOR COMMERCIAL WITH 817 PARKING STALLS IN THE THREE LEVELS OF AT GRADE PARKING. AND THE VESTING TENTATIVE TRACK MAP WOULD CHANGE FROM TWO GROUND LOTS WITH 13 AIRSPACE SUBDIVISIONS TO ONLY TWO GROUND LOTS OF 2.04 AND 2.55 ACRES LOCATED ON FOUR POINT 59 ACRES. SITE AT 3 2 1 WEST OCEAN BOULEVARD IN DOWNTOWN PLAN. IN THE DOWNTOWN PLAN, PARDON? PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, RECOMMEND THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVE AN OTHER ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE METHOD REQUEST PURSUANT TO SECTION 21.6 7.080 TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER 21.67 FOR THE PROJECT'S COMPLIANCE WITH THE INCLUSIONARY HOUSING ORDINANCE DISTRICT ONE. THANK YOU. GONNA GET A MAKER IN A SECOND PLEASE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER LI AND COMMISSIONER TEMPLIN. UH, WE WILL HAND IT OVER TO STAFF FOR A PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, CHAIR. YOU MIGHT HAVE NOTICED IN, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION LANGUAGE THIS PROJECT, UM, IS HERE FOR YOU AS A MODIFICATION. IT WAS FIRST APPROVED IN MARCH, 2020. AS WE ALL KNOW, THE WORLD CHANGED QUITE A BIT AT THAT TIME. AND SO THERE'S BEEN A NEED, UM, FOR MODIFICATION BASED ON, UM, HOW THE MARKET HAS ACTED SINCE THEN. YOU'LL HEAR A BIT MORE DETAIL FROM RAJ BATIA WHO WILL PROVIDE THIS PRESENTATION. HI. THANK YOU ALLISON. GOOD EVENING, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. UM, AS ALLISON MENTIONED, THE CASE BEFORE YOU IS FOR MODIFICATION TO AN ALREADY APPROVED PROJECT. THE PROJECT LOCATED AT 3 21 WEST OCEAN BOULEVARD IS ALSO COMMONLY KNOWN AS MIDBLOCK OR THE CENTRAL BLOCK OF THE CIVIC CENTER. AND IT WAS APPROVED BY PLANNING COMMISSION ON MARCH 19TH, 2020 FOR 580 RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND 40,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL OR COMMERCIAL AREA. IN THE NEXT SLIDES I WILL TALK, UM, YOU THREW THE PROPO PROPOSED CHANGES. SO LOCATIONALLY, THE SITE IS BETWEEN THE CITY HALL AND THE WEST AND THE MAIN LIBRARY OR LINCOLN PARK TO THE EAST OCEAN BOULEVARD TO THE SOUTH OF AND BROADWAY GARAGE TO THE NORTH. THE SITE WAS FORMERLY DEVELOPED WITH THE CITY HALL IN 1976, WHICH WAS DEMOLISHED IN 2023. AS MENTIONED AGAIN BEFORE, PRIOR APPROVAL, UM, THE PRO, IT WAS APPROVED SIX YEARS AGO EXACTLY ON MARCH 19TH, 2020, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF FIVE 80 RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND 48,000 SQUARE FEET OF GROUND FLOOR COMMERCIAL. IN TWO EIGHT STORY BUILDINGS, 885 PARKING SPACES WERE PROPOSED INTO SUBTERRANEAN PARKING GARAGES. UM, THE NORTH SOUTH CEDAR AVENUE WAS PROPOSED TO PROVIDE VEHICLE ACCESS AND EAST WEST PUBLIC PASEO WAS PROPOSED BETWEEN THE PROJECT BUILDINGS. IMPORTANT TO NOTE HERE IS THAT THE ORIGINALLY APPROVED PROJECT WAS PROPOSING TO USE MOSTLY METAL PANELS FOR THE FACADE OF THESE BUILDINGS. TO GIVE SOME BACKGROUND ON THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS HERE IN 2015, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE LONG BEACH CIVIC CENTER PROJECT. THIS APPROVAL INCLUDED A REGULATORY AGREEMENT SIMILAR TO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT EAB ESTABLISHING A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WHEREBY A PRIVATE DEVELOPER WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR CONSTRUCTING THE NEW FACILITIES AND OWN CERTAIN OF THEM AS A LANDLORD FOR A 75-YEAR-OLD 75 YEAR PERIOD IN EXCHANGE FOR A LAND SWAP AND DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS OF THE FORMER LONG BEACH CITY HALL SITE, WHICH IS THIS PROJECT THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. UH, AND THIS IS INCLUDED THE TWO 30 WEST THIRD STREET RESIDENTIAL PROJECT AS WELL. THE LONG BEACH CIVIC CENTER PROJECT ALSO INVOLVED THE DEMOLITION OF THE 1976 LONG BEACH CITY HALL CIVIC CENTER PLAZA AND MAIN LIBRARY, WHICH ALTOGETHER, UM, MADE WAY FOR PREVIOUS, UM, MIDWAY FOR A FOUR BLOCK DEVELOPMENT, WHICH CONSISTED OF THE NEW CITY HALL NEWPORT ADMINISTRATION BUILDING NEW MAIN LIBRARY ON TOP OF THE EXISTING LINCOLN GARAGE, A RECONFIGURED LINCOLN PARK AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE FORMER 1976 CITY HALL SITE. THIS ALSO INCLUDED THE RECONNECTION OF CEDAR AND CHESTNUT AVENUES BETWEEN [00:20:01] BROADWAY AND OCEAN BOULEVARD AND DEVELOPMENT OF A CITY ON OFFSITE SURFACE PARKING LOT. ONE BLOCK TO THE NORTH. A NEW PUBLIC SAFETY PARKING GARAGE WAS ALSO LOCATED AT ONE 15 CHESTNUT AVENUE, WHICH WAS ADDED TO THE PROJECT IN 2019. YEAH, SINCE THE APPROVAL SIX YEARS AGO, UM, NUMEROUS DEVELOPERS SELECTED BY THE MASTER LEASE HOLDER PLENARY HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO CONVERT THIS ENTITLEMENT APPROVAL INTO A FINANCIALLY VIABLE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT AND NOR HAVE BEEN ABLE TO RECEIVE CONSTRUCTION FUNDING. SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY. UM, BECAUSE THIS, THIS, THESE CHALLENGES WERE IN LARGE PART BECAUSE OF THE EXPENSIVE ARCHITECTURE MATERIALS, THERE'S EXCESSIVE GROUND FLOOR RETAIL IN A WEAK RETAIL MARKET, WHICH CHANGED IN THE 2020 AND TIME AFTER AND THE EXPENSIVE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SUBTERRANEAN GARAGE. ADDITIONALLY, DESPITE A PROPOSED UNIT COUNT OF 580 UNITS, AN INCREASE IN UNIT CLOUD ALSO IS NEEDED TO, FOR THE PROJECT VIABILITY. SO PREVIOUSLY PROJECT, PREVIOUS PROJECT WAS DESIGNED TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN A SINGLE PHASE WITH INTERCONNECTED PARKING, WHEREAS THE NEW DESIGN WILL BE BUILT IN TWO PHASES, ALLOWING FOR FINANCING MORE WITHIN THE LIMITS OF THE CONVENTIONAL LENDERS. AND THEREFORE, WE ARE HERE TODAY FOR THIS MODIFICATION TO START WITH. TO TALK ABOUT THE NOTABLE MODIFICATIONS. I WOULD START BY SAYING THAT THE FORM MASSING AND HEIGHT OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT, THE PROPOSED MODIFIC PROJECT STILL REMAINS THE SAME AS THE ORIGINAL PROJECT. HOWEVER, THE RESIDENTIAL UNIT COUNT WILL BE INCREASED FROM FIVE 80 WITH WHICH WERE TWO 19, EACH BUILDING TO 729 TOTAL. WITH 364 UNITS IN THE NORTH BUILDING AND 365 UNITS IN THE SOUTH BUILDING. THE UNIT MIX AND DISTRIBUTION IS PROPOSED TO BE ADJUSTED TO ACCOMMODATE THE INCREASED UNIT TOTAL. THESE CHANGES WILL RESULT IN A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE IN STUDIO UNITS AND SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN ONE BEDROOM, TWO BEDROOM, AND THREE BEDROOM UNITS. I WILL BE PRESENTING THE UNIT MIXES, UM, IN THE FEW UPCOMING SLIDES. OVERALL UNIT SIZES DO BECOME SMALLER, BUT ONLY BY APPROXIMATELY 52 TO 61 SQUARE FEET ACROSS THE PROJECT AVERAGE. AND THIS IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE CONVERSION OF THE APPROXIMATELY 37,000 SQUARE FEET OF ORIGINAL 40,000 SQUARE FEET. RETAIL TO GROUND FLOOR RESIDENTIAL PARKING WOULD ALSO BE REDUCED FROM 8 85 TO 817 SPACES, WHICH IS STILL ENOUGH PARKING FOR THE PROJECT. AND THE CEDAR AVENUE THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOR VEHICULAR ACCESS WOULD BECOME UP A DISTANT PEO INCREASING THE WALKABILITY OF THE SITE AND ACTIVATING THE GROUND FLOOR. FURTHER, THE APPROVED PROJECT INVOLVES THREE MAJOR ONSITE AND OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS RELATED TO STREETS AND CIRCULATION. AS YOU CAN SEE THAT ON THE LEFT SIDE IS THE PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2020. AND ON THE RIGHT IS THE SITE PLAN FOR THE PROJECT THAT IS BEING PROPOSED. UM, IT WOULD INCLUDE THE COMPLETION OF CHESTNUT AVENUE IMPROVEMENTS ADJACENT TO THE PROJECT SITE. THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY PART OF THE PROJECT AND WILL STILL REMAIN IN EFFECT, UM, INTRODUCTION OF CEDAR AVENUE AS A NEW VEHICLE ROAD BETWEEN BROADWAY AND OCEAN BOULEVARD, SEPARATING THE PROJECT SITE FROM BLINKEN PARK AND THE MAIN LIBRARY, WHICH WAS PART OF THE OR OLDER PROJECT. BUT THIS WOULD NOW BECOME A PUBLIC PEO O AND IT WOULD BE HAVE WITH ABILITY TO BE CLOSED, UM, FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, BUT MOSTLY REMAIN OPEN AND INTRODUCTION OF ANY EAST WEST VEHICLE ROAD BETWEEN CHESTNUT AND CEDAR AVENUES. THAT WILL STILL REMAIN IN PLACE. THE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS, AS I MENTIONED, AND THE EAST WEST, UM, ROAD WILL ALSO REMAIN THERE. OKAY, MOVING ON TO THE SAMPLE FLOOR PLANS. THE SITE AND FIRST FLOOR PLAN SHOWS THE GARAGE LAYOUT, UH, ALONG WITH UNITS EN DEVELOPING IT. THIS IS TYPICAL PLAN FOR UP TO THE THIRD LEVEL, WHICH IS, UH, ALL THE GARAGE LEVELS. THE FOURTH LEVEL PLAN CONSISTS OF THE COURTYARD AS SHOWN, AND THEN THE FIFTH TO EIGHTH IS ALSO A TYPICAL FLOOR PLAN SHOWN, SHOWN ON THE RIGHT WITH AN OPENING IN THE CENTER OVERLOOKING THE COURTYARD. AS MENTIONED, WE ARE THE PROJECT'S ALSO REQUESTING, UH, MATERIAL CHANGES. SO ARCHITECTURE MATERIALS WILL BE REVISED FROM USING ARCHITECTURE METAL PANELS TO MORE TRADITIONAL CHOICES OF PLASTER, WHICH IS STUCCO PORCELAIN TILE, AND A WOOD COMPOSITE AXON MATERIAL ON THE GROUND FLOOR. THESE MATERIALS ARE PRESENTED HERE ON THE SLIDE WITH THE COLOR PANELS ALSO AS SHOWN TO EMPHASIZE THE CONCEPT OF, UM, THESE RENDERINGS ARE A SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON OF AND EMPHASIZING THE CONCEPT OF MASSING AND FORM AND MASSING REMAINING LARGELY THE SAME. ON THE LEFT IS THE ORIGINALLY APPROVED PROJECT, AND ON THE RIGHT SIDE ARE THE CURRENTLY MODIFIED PROPOSAL, ANOTHER [00:25:01] ENTERING TO SHOW THE SIZE AND MASSING IS GENERALLY THE SAME, BUT WITH MATERIAL AND INTERNAL LAYOUT CHANGES, YOU CAN OBSERVE SOME DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE APPROVED AND THE MODIFIED PROJECT. SO TO SUMMARIZE HERE, THE PROJECT BEFORE WAS TWO EIGHT STORY BUILDINGS. IT'LL REMAIN THE SAME, UM, WITH FIVE 80 UNITS PROPO ORIGINALLY AND 58 OF THOSE UNITS WERE AFFORDABLE. AND NOW THE PROPOSAL HAS THEM BEEN AMENDED TO 7 29 TO TOTAL UNITS. 73 OF THEM WILL BE AFFORDABLE UNITS, WHICH IS 10% OF THE TOTAL NUMBER. I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE. UM, 40,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE HAS GONE DOWN TO 2,651 SQUARE FEET COMMERCIAL SPACES, 8 85 PARKING SPACES GOING DOWN TO EIGHT 17. AND CEDAR AVENUE WAS ULAR ACCESS, WHICH WILL NOW BECOME PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, EXCEPT FOR MIDNIGHT TO 6:00 AM ON WEEKDAYS AND MIDNIGHT TO 8:00 AM ON WEEKENDS AND HOLIDAYS. THAT WILL BE DONE TO, UM, HAVE MORE RESIDENTIAL SECURITY. THE UNIT MIXES, AS I MENTIONED, UH, ARE PRESENTED IN FRONT OF YOU. BEFORE WE HAD 118 STUDIO UNITS, WHICH ARE GOING DOWN TO ONLY 20 UNITS IN THE NEW PROPOSAL. ONE BEDROOM UNITS ARE GOING UP FROM THREE 70 TO 5 29 AND TWO BEDS ARE FROM 83 TO ONE 30. THE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE LAWS HAPPENING IN THREE BEDROOM UNITS, WHICH WERE ONLY NINE UNITS IN THE ORIGINAL PROJECT, AND THAT WILL BECOME 50 UNITS IN THE NEW PROJECT. THE IMPORTANT PART COMES HERE WHERE WE TALK ABOUT THE ALTERNATOR COMPLIANCE METHOD, UM, OPTION FOR THE INCLUSIONARY HOUSING. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE ORIGINAL PROJECT APPROVED ON MARCH 19TH, 2020, TOOK PLACE PRIOR TO THE CITY'S ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE, UM, WHICH IS THE INCLUSIONARY HOUSING ORDINANCE. SO THE PROJECT WAS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY INCLUSIONARY HOUSING REQUIREMENTS AT THAT TIME. THE MIDBLOCK SITE IS PART OF THE OVERALL CIVIC CENTER PROJECT AGREEMENT DATED APRIL 20TH, 2016, BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE PROJECT COMPANY, WHICH LED TO THE DEVELOPMENT AND CURRENT OPERATION OF THE CIVIC CENTER MAIN LIBRARY AND INCON PARK. THE CITY REMAINS THE OWNER OF THE MIDBLOCK SITE, BUT IS CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED BY THE PROJECT AGREEMENT TO DELIVER THE MID BLOCK BLOCK SITE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AGREEMENT PUT IN PLACE IN 2016. PURSUANT TO THAT, THE PROJECT COMPANY COMMITTED TO DESIGNATE 10% OF THE PROJECT'S DWELLING UNITS ORIGINALLY ENTITLED AT 58 5 80 UNITS, AND 58 OF THOSE WERE, UM, MODERATE INCOME AFFORDABLE UNITS. THE 80 80 TO ONE 20% A MI TO BE GUARANTEED BY RESTRICTIVE COVENANT FOR A PERIOD OF 55 YEARS. THE PROB OBJECT AGREEMENT IS STILL IN PLACE, STILL BINDS ALL PARTIES TO THE 10% MODERATE SETASIDE COMMITMENT, AND HAS BEEN EXTENDED TO THE AMENDED PROPOSAL OF 73 UNITS OUT OF THE 7 29 PROJECT UNITS PROPOSED. IF THE PROJECT WAS SUBMITTED TODAY UNDER TODAY'S CODE REQUIREMENTS, IT WOULD REQUIRE 12% AFFORDABLE UNITS COMPRISING OF SIX VERY LOW INCOME UNITS AND SIX 6% VERY LOW INCOME AND 6% LOW INCOME UNITS. HOWEVER, PURSUANT TO SUBSECTION C OF SECTION 21.6780 OF THE INCLUSIONARY HOUSING ORDINANCE, THE DEVELOPER IS REQUESTING THE PROVISION OF THE 73 MODERATE A MI AFFORDABLE UNITS TO BE CONSIDERED AS AN ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE MEASURE METHOD. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THIS CONSIDERATION BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL PROJECT APPROVAL WAS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY INCLUSIONARY HOUSING REQUIREMENTS, AND THE REQUESTED ACTION IS ONLY A MODIFICATION OF THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL, NOT A NEW PROJECT. ALSO, THE PROJECT AGREEMENT, WHICH IS STILL IN EFFECT, WAS MADE LONG BEFORE THE CITY'S INCLUSIONARY ORDINANCE WENT INTO EFFECT. AND PER THE AGREEMENT, THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO DELIVER THE MIDBLOCK SITE TO THE DEVELOPER, SUBJECT TO THE AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH IN THE 2016 PROJECT AGREEMENT. THE COORDINATIVE COMPLIANCE OPTION REQUEST REQUIRES A RECOMMENDATION FROM CITY STAFF AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL AND SHOULD BE SUPPORTED WITH ANALYSIS OF THE PROPOSALS, COMPLIANCE WITH THE HOUSING ELEMENT POLICIES, FAIR HOUSING GOALS, AND RE REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENTS, WHICH WE CALL RE SO BASED ON CITY'S 2025 A PR CITI HAS PERFORMED THE WORST IN RE CYCLE FOR MODERATE INCOME UNITS, HAVING ENTITLED ONLY 6.2% OF THE MODERATE INCOME UNITS, OF WHICH ONLY 0.3% OF THE MODERATE INCOME UNITS ALLOCATION HAS BEEN PERMITTED TO DATE. THEREFORE, THE ADDITION OF THESE UNITS RESTRICTED TO THE MODERATE INCOME LEVEL WOULD MEET THE CITY'S GOAL IN FURTHERING ITS RE ENTERTAINMENT. THE PROPOSED ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE OPTION WOULD ADD ANOTHER 73 MODERATE UNITS, HELPING THE CITY MAKE PROGRESS BY REACHING MORE OF ITS MODERATE ALLOCATION UNITS UNDER REINA. SO WITH THAT, I WILL COME TO THE LAST PART OF THE PRO PRESENTATION. THE PROPOSED MODIFICATION TO THE WESTING [00:30:01] TENTATIVE TRACK MAP. THIS WAS APPROVED BY, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION AS TWO MASTER GROUND LOTS AND 13 AIRSPACE CONDOMINIUMS WITH THE ORIGINAL PROJECT FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES, THESE 13 AIRSPACE CONDOMINIUMS AND THE REVISED TE WELL WESTING TENTATIVE TRACK MAP ONLY PROPOSES TWO GROUND LEVEL LOTS, ONE FOR EACH OF THE BUILDINGS. THE EXISTING 200,000 SQUARE FEET, 4.59 ACRE PARCEL WILL BE SUBDIVIDED INTO 2.04 ACRE LOT FOR THE NORTH BUILDING AND THE 2.55 LOT FOR THE SOUTH BUILDING CITY STAFF FINDS THAT A PROJECT COMPLIES WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF PD 30 IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND FORWARDS THE CITY'S PLANNING GOALS BY ACCOMPLISHING AND IMPLEMENTING MAJOR POLICIES OF THE ZONING REGULATIONS AND GENERAL GENERAL PLAN, THE PROJECT WILL CREATE 7 29 NEW UNITS AND THE SMALL AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL RETAIL SPACE WILL INCREASE THE SUPPLY OF RESTRICTED AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS AND WILL COMPLETE THE FINAL MAJOR COMPONENT OF THE 2015 LONG BEACH CIVIC CENTER PROJECT. BY DEVELOPING THE LAST WEEKEND SITE OF THE PROJECT SCOPE, THE PROJECTS REQUESTED ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE OPTION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE INCLUSIONARY HOUSING ORDINANCE AND CITY STAFF ALSO MAKE HAS MADE POSITIVE FINDINGS FOR THE REQUIRED ENTITLEMENTS AND APPROPRIATE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL HAVE BEEN INCLUDED TO ENSURE THE CITIES AND PROJECTS GOALS ARE MET. SO WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT PLANNING COMMISSION ACCEPT THE STATUTORY EXEMPTION TO FIND THE PROJECT EXEMPT UNDER CQ STATUTE AB ONE 30, APPROVE THE MODIFIED PROJECT AND RECOMMEND TO, UM, RECOMMEND THE, UM, INCLUDE, UM, ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE METHOD, UH, TO CITY COUNCIL. THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. AND WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. VERY THOROUGH CHAIR. IF I COULD ADD JUST ONE THING, UM, THERE WAS, UH, REVISED CONDITIONS POSTED EARLIER TODAY. THERE ARE COPIES FOR YOU AS WELL AS FOR THE PUBLIC HERE. IT RELATES TO CONDITION, UH, NUMBER 15 AND HOW THE NEGOTIATION OF ANY CREDITS FOR OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, WILL BE FINALIZED. SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE HAD THAT UPDATED COPY. AND AGAIN, IT'S AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL HERE AT THE FRONT IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT. AND THAT'S CONDITION 15 AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE FIVE. I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADD THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED TWO POSITIVE COMMENTS FOR THE PROJECT. THANK YOU. PERFECT. COMMISSIONERS, QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS? YES. COMMISSIONER TEMPLE. THANK YOU, SIR. PARDON ME. UM, THAT THE NEW, UM, CONDITIONS THAT GIVE 73 MODERATE AFFORDABLE UNITS, IS THAT STILL GOING TO BE A PERCENTAGE? THE PERCENTAGE THAT'S USED FOR BETWEEN THE ONE BEDROOM STUDIO, THE ONE BEDROOM, THE TWO BEDROOM, THE THREE BEDROOM, AND IS THAT STILL 11% OR BECAUSE IT'S 10%, THAT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF 10%. AND YES, WE'LL BE DISTRIBUTED AMONGST THE, ALL THE UNITS. SO IT WOULD MEET THAT, UM, UM, CONSISTENT REFLECTION OF THE OVERALL UNIT, UM, TYPOLOGY AND DISTRIBUTION. THE REQUEST FOR THE ALTERNATIVE TO DO 10% MODERATE, UM, IS DUE TO THAT PRE-EXISTING, UH, PROJECT AGREEMENT THAT THE CITY ENTERED INTO BACK IN 2016 BEFORE THERE WAS ANY INCLUSIONARY. UH, THE CITY IS STILL SUBJECT TO THAT LEGAL AGREEMENT BY WHICH WE WOULD, UM, UH, GIVE THE LAND IN EXCHANGE, UH, FOR THAT 10% MODERATE. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. UM, MY QUESTION, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. ONE IS REGARDING RETAIL, IT'S ABOUT A 90% DECREASE IN RETAIL, BRINGING IN THOUSAND 14, 1800 RESIDENTS TO THAT AREA. WHAT IS THE, THE IMPACT OF THAT, OF NOT HAVING THOSE AMENITIES AVAILABLE AND THEM HAVING TO JUMP IN THEIR CAR OR WHATEVER, OR GO SOMEWHERE ELSE? CAN WE JUST TALK ABOUT THAT A BIT? YEAH, SO WE HOPE THEY WON'T JUMP IN THEIR CAR. WE HOPE THAT THEY'LL WALK, UM, TO PINE AVENUE AND THAT ACTUALLY THIS POPULATION WILL HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON ABSORBING EXISTING VACANCIES IN THE GREATER DOWNTOWN AREA. UM, I THINK THE CITY AS REFLECTED IN THE PRIOR APPROVAL, WOULD'VE LOVED TO HAVE SEEN, UM, MORE RETAIL IN THIS LOCATION. I KNOW, UH, FOLKS REALLY WANTED A GROCERY STORE. WE HAVE A VACANT GROCERY STORE THAT VACATED, THAT CONTINUES TO SIT VACANT, UM, YOU KNOW, TWO BLOCKS FROM THIS SITE. SO THE CITY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE IT WAS IN A POSITION TO REQUIRE ADDITIONAL RETAIL, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF, UM, VACANCIES AND THE GREATER DOWNTOWN AREA AND THE MARKET FORCES, YOU KNOW, FACED BY THIS PARTICULAR, UM, DEVELOPER. BUT I THINK IS HOPEFUL THAT WITH THIS PROJECT AND OTHER PROJECTS COMING ONLINE, [00:35:01] UM, THAT WE'LL REACH SOME KIND OF EQUILIBRIUM, UH, KIND OF POST COVID EQUILIBRIUM AND, AND BE ABLE TO HAVE, UM, A MORE ROBUST, UM, DAYTIME AND NIGHTTIME RETAIL AND, AND ENTERTAINMENT AND DINING EXPERIENCE DOWNTOWN. THIS PROJECT DOES STILL CONTAIN RETAIL SPACE. IT'S JUST GREATLY REDUCED FROM THE PRIOR VERSION. THANK YOU. AND IT'S MOVING TO A PHASE PROJECT AND A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT RECENTLY WILL START A PHASE AND THE OTHER PHASE JUST DOESN'T COME TO FRUITION. HOW CONFIDENT IS STAFF THAT THE ENTIRE PROJECT WOULD BE BUILT? I MEAN, WE'RE CONFIDENT THE ENTIRE PROJECT WILL BE BUILT. WILL IT BE BUILT ON THE TIMELINE THAT WE CONTEMPLATE TODAY? WILL THERE BE DELAYS THAT I CAN'T REALLY TELL YOU. IT CAN TELL YOU THAT BY BREAKING IT INTO PHASES, IT REDUCES THE SIZE OF THE CONSTRUCTION LOAN, WHICH MAKES IT DRAMATICALLY EASIER, UM, TO FINANCE THE PROJECT. UH, THE PROJECT TEAM CURRENTLY ANTICIPATES STARTING PHASE TWO BEFORE PHASE ONE IS EVEN OCCUPIED. UM, BUT IT WOULD BE AT THEIR DISCRETION TO MAKE CHANGES THERE. UM, BUT BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THIS PIECE OF LAND WAS PART OF THE PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, AND, UM, WHILE THEY HAVEN'T TAKEN TITLE, THEY'VE ALREADY PAID FOR IT. SO THEY HAVE A STRONG MOTIVATION, UM, TO ULTIMATELY DO THE FULL DEVELOPMENT. BUT I OBVIOUSLY CAN'T PREDICT WHERE THE ECONOMY AND INTEREST RATES ARE GONNA BE, UH, IN THE FUTURE. OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER , CAN YOU, ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED ON THE PLANS WAS TALKING ABOUT REQUIRED PARKING, IT BEING 1.1 SPACES PER UNIT. UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS BECAUSE OF A AB 2097 THAT SHOULD BE REQUIRED ZERO. IS THIS, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? THAT'S JUST HOW THE DESIGNER, UM, LABELED SOME OF THE DRAWINGS. UM, THERE IS NO REQUIRED, UM, PARKING HERE UNDER AB 2097, AND I KNOW THAT, UM, THE DEVELOPER YOU MAY WANT TO DISCUSS WITH THEM, MILL CREEK WENT THROUGH SOME STUDY TO LOOK AT WHAT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF PARKING, UM, THAT WOULD MAKE THE UNITS STILL LEASEABLE AND IT'S PARKED AT 1.1, UM, WHICH IS THE NUMBER THAT THEY CHOSE FOR MARKET REASONS. OKAY, GREAT. AND, UM, THE, UH, ANOTHER THING I, I ALSO DO WANT TO ECHO, UH, COMMISSIONER WARE'S CONCERNS ABOUT THE PHASING. HE OBVIOUSLY ANSWERED THAT QUESTION. UM, BUT THEN, UH, LOOKING AT THE LANDSCAPING PLANS, I'M NOTICING EITHER ADDING NEW OR CONTINUING TO ADD IN PALM TREES. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU FOLKS CAN SPEAK ON? I I THINK THAT THERE'S A LANDSCAPING PLAN THAT THE CITY HAS THAT IS SUPPOSED TO MOVE US AWAY FROM THAT TYPE OF LANDSCAPING. UH, WE'RE LOOKING IT UP HERE AT THE STAFF TABLE. I KNOW THE APPLICANT ALSO HAS A BRIEF PRESENTATION, SO MAYBE WE CAN LOOK IT UP HERE YEAH. AND GET BACK TO YOU AFTER, AFTER THAT. OKAY. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS I'M CONCERNED WITH, THE CHANGE IN HOW THE EO IS WORKING IS IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE FROM THE RENDERING SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE OR AT LEAST WELCOMINGLY PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE. UM, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A GATE AND THAT GATE, YOU KNOW, IS LIKE A THIRD OF THE OPEN. UM, THE SPACE BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS, UH, SUPPOSED TO BE OPEN, I'M SURE IT WILL BE OPENED, BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE STANDING AT THE PARK, LOOKING AT THE CITY, AT CITY HALL, IT ISN'T CLEAR THAT'S GONNA BE A PLACE WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO BE ENCOURAGED TO GO THROUGH THAT. UM, SO, UH, THAT IS SOMETHING ALSO I THINK I'D LIKE TO TALK TO THE DEVELOPER ABOUT. YEAH, WE DO, UM, AGREE THERE'S SOME CONDITIONS THAT REQUIRE SOME FINAL COORDINATION THAT HAS NOT YET OCCURRED, UM, ON THE POEO. SO THAT, UM, FINAL LANDSCAPE PLAN IS NOT GONNA LOOK LIKE THE ONE IN YOUR PACKET, BUT I THINK IT'D BE GOOD TO HAVE, UM, THAT DIALOGUE. WE DO HAVE CONDITIONS REQUIRING THAT IT REMAIN OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, ONE COMMENT, I THINK THERE'S TOO MUCH LANDSCAPING AND NOT ENOUGH OPEN. SO THAT, UM, FINAL COORDINATION ON THE POEO, 'CAUSE THE PEDESTRIAN FEATURE HAPPENS WITH PUBLIC WORKS, BUT I THINK IT'D BE GOOD FOR YOU TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, UH, WITH [00:40:01] THE APPLICANT TEAM AS WELL. OKAY. AND THEN TALKING, I I, THE REASON I MENTIONED THE POEO WAS ALSO THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE WANTED TO HAVE RETAIL IN THE MIX HERE IS BECAUSE OF THAT PUBLIC ACTIVATION. AND IT'S LOOKING TO BE A, FROM WHAT I CAN TELL, A SINGLE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TWO OR THREE ACCESS POINT BUILDING AT THIS POINT, WHICH FEELS VERY MUCH LIKE A FORTRESS THAT EXISTS IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR CIVIC CENTER. UH, SO THAT IS A THING THAT I'M LOOKING AT AND SOMEWHAT CONCERNED OF, UH, CONSIDERING THAT IT'S BEING PUT BETWEEN TWO MAJOR, UH, PUBLIC ASSETS, UH, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU COUNT IT, THREE OR FOUR PUBLIC ASSETS, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE INTENT ON IT NOT BEING A BARRIER TO GETTING BETWEEN ALL OF THAT. UM, SO I THAT'S MORE OF JUST A STATEMENT AT THIS POINT, I GUESS. YEAH, I, I HEAR YOU. I I WOULD NOT DESCRIBE IT AS A FORTRESS, BUT WHAT I WOULD SHARE WITH THE ENTIRE COMMISSION IS, UM, WE DID NOT ACHIEVE EVERY SINGLE GOAL TO AN A PLUS LEVEL ON THIS PROJECT. BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY, UM, AFTER MORE THAN SIX YEARS OF NEGOTIATION, REDESIGN, EXPLORING MULTIPLE CREATIVE FINANCING OPPORTUNITIES, UM, WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE, AT LEAST FROM THE STAFF TABLE, WE BELIEVE THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT AND ONE THAT YOU SHOULD APPROVE. UM, AND, AND THAT THERE ISN'T A BETTER PROJECT COMING NEXT MONTH OR NEXT YEAR OR THE YEAR AFTER THAT. UM, SO THAT WAS PART OF OUR ANALYSIS, NOT JUST ON THE PLANNING SIDE, BUT ON THE REAL ESTATE TRANSACTION SIDE. UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S FULLY FOR THE, THE COMMISSION TO, TO REACH THEIR INDEPENDENT JUDGMENT. CAN I SPEAK TO THE, UH, COMMENT ABOUT THE PALM TREES? UM, CONDITION NUMBER 39 OF THE PROJECT DOES TALK ABOUT THAT, AND IT SAYS CLEARLY THAT THE PALM TREES ARE PROHIBITED UNLESS SPECIFICALLY REQUIRED BY THE DOWNTOWN PLAN. AND IT DOES ALSO MENTION THAT THE, UM, TREES BE, UM, THE TREES WILL BE WETTED BY PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, AND IT HAS TO BE PART OF THE DOWNTOWN PLANS LIST OF TREES THAT ARE APPROVED. SO WHAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU ARE JUST RENDERINGS, BUT THESE ARE ALL RECONDITIONS INCORPORATED. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK, THANK YOU. ANOTHER QUESTION, COMMISSIONER, WHERE YEAH. UM, YEAH, I HAD JUST, I GUESS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. SO WE CAN'T REQUIRE COMPLIANCE OF THE 12% INCLUSIONARY STANDARD BECAUSE A CONTRACT ALREADY EXISTED. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, LET ME BE MORE PRECISE. SO, UM, THE CITY, CORPORATE CITY OF LONG BEACH, UM, HAS A PROJECT AGREEMENT, UH, THAT REFERENCES THE 10%. THE CITY OF LONG BEACH HAS AN OBLIGATION TO MEET THAT PRIOR OBLIGATION. UM, THIS COMMISSION HAS AN ENTITLEMENT IN FRONT OF IT. YOU COULD, UH, RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THAT PART. I THINK THAT WOULD CREATE ENORMOUS LIABILITY FOR THE CITY, BUT IT WOULD BE WITHIN YOUR, UH, PURVIEW ABILITY AND DISCRETION AS A PLANNING COMMISSIONER TO DO THAT. UM, AND THEN IT WOULD END UP AT THE, THE CITY COUNCIL TO, UH, RESOLVE THAT INCONSISTENCY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS AT THIS TIME? OKAY. I THINK WE'LL TRANSITION OVER TO THE DEVELOPER REPRESENTATIVE FOR THEIR PRESENTATION. FEEL FREE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF. THANK YOU. SORRY. ONE SEC. ONE MOMENT. LET US GET THAT MICROPHONE WORKING. WE'VE GOT FOLKS LISTENING IN FROM HOME, TOO. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEAH. HI. HI, COMMISSIONERS. UH, STAFF. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. MY NAME'S RYAN GUTHRIE. UH, I'M THE SENIOR MANAGING DIRECTOR WITH MILL CREEK, UH, LOCAL HERE. UM, THE PROJECT TEAM HAS SOME SLIDES TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT LATER. UH, I'M EXCITED TO BE BACK IN LONG BEACH, UH, IN, IN A PAST LIFE. UH, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP THE, UH, VOLTA APARTMENT COMMUNITY BETWEEN SIXTH AND SEVENTH ON PINE AND PACIFIC. UH, AND THEN LATER THE, UH, REZA COMMUNITY THAT JUST OPENED UP ON THIRD AND PACIFIC. SO, UH, I'M HERE WITH A NEW FIRM TODAY, MILL MILL CREEK, BUT AM FAMILIAR WITH LONG BEACH AND [00:45:01] EXCITED TO DEVELOP MORE QUALITY PRODUCT. UM, OUR PRESENTATION TALKS ABOUT MILL CREEK, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE. WE'RE A VERTICALLY INTEGRATED COMPANY. UH, WE ARE A BUILDER, A DEVELOPER, UH, UH, AN OWNER AND AN OPERATOR. SO, UH, WE, UH, PRIDE OURSELVES ON DELIVERING AND MAINTAINING A, A BEST IN CLASS PRODUCT, WHICH WE'LL EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE. UH, WE ALSO HAVE TCA OUR ARCHITECT HERE TODAY, UH, WHICH IS THE SAME ARCHITECT, UH, FROM THE PREVIOUS APPROVAL. AND SO WE WANTED TO HONOR WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, UH, AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE, THE STRENGTHS OF THAT DESIGN WHILE STILL FINDING SOMETHING THAT WAS FINANCEABLE. ULTIMATELY, UH, THE ABILITY TO EXECUTE WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO WAS TOP OF MIND. UH, AND SO WHILE RETAINING QUALITY, UH, WE ALSO WERE LOOKING TO MAKE CHOICES THAT WERE THOUGHTFUL IN TERMS OF, UH, WHAT COULD BE ABSORBED FOR A, A COST PERSPECTIVE AND WHAT COULD ULTIMATELY BE FINANCED BY, UM, THE CAPITAL MARKETS TEAM. SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER FOR THE PRESENTATION. HELLO, COMMISSIONERS. UH, MY NAME IS RYAN CORCORAN. I'M WITH MILL CREEK. I'M A VICE PRESIDENT. UH, JUST AS GUTHRIE MENTIONED, WE SIT LOCALLY IN TORRANCE. UH, WE BOTH GREW UP, UH, LOCALLY AS WELL, SO WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE TODAY. I HAVE A PRESENTATION, I'M NOT SURE HOW TO GET IT ON. THERE WE GO. UM, AS RYAN MENTIONED, MILL CREEK IS A VERTICALLY INTEGRATED, UH, MULTIFAMILY, UM, DEVELOPER, ASSET MANAGER, GENERAL CONTRACTOR, AND PROPERTY MANAGER. SO WE HAVE ALL OF OUR TEAMS IN-HOUSE. WE, UH, TAKE GREAT PRIDE IN DELIVERING A, UH, VERY HIGH-END, UM, QUALITY PRODUCT THAT, UM, WE WILL OPERATE FOR YEARS AFTER WE CONSTRUCT THE, THE BUILDING. THIS SLIDE HIGHLIGHTS OUR, OUR VERTICAL INTEGRATION, UM, HERE LOCALLY IN OUR LOS ANGELES OFFICE, WE, UH, HAVE OUR DEVELOPMENT TEAM, WHICH IS HERE TONIGHT. WE HAVE OUR GENERAL CONTRACTING TEAM. WE HAVE OUR PRE-CONSTRUCTION TEAM WHO WE COORDINATE WITH. UM, SO FAR TO DATE, WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON OUR DESIGN AND, AND PRICING AND, AND MAKING SURE THAT WHAT WE STAND FORWARD AND PRESENT TODAY IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO DELIVER ON. WE ARE, ARE VERY ACTIVE IN THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA MARKET. WE HAVE, UM, OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS DELIVERED JUST OVER 2,400 UNITS. WE CURRENTLY IN OUR PIPELINE HAVE ANOTHER 2,400 UNITS, UM, THAT SPANS FROM NORTH COUNTY SAN DIEGO, UM, SAN DIEGO, UH, SANTA MONICA. THESE PROJECTS IN LONG BEACH AND IN THE SOUTH BAY HERE IS A, A REPRESENTATIVE PROJECT THAT WE RECENTLY COMPLETED IN HOLLYWOOD. THIS IS MADERA ARGYLE. UM, WE, THIS IS A SEVEN STORY BUILDING. THIS ONE DID HAVE GROUND FLOOR RETAIL. IT HAS A ROOFTOP POOL. UM, THESE ARE SOME IMAGES OF OUR AMENITIES, WHICH ARE, UM, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE ENVISION DELIVERING HERE. HERE IS OUR MADERA POMONA PROJECT. THIS IS, UM, OUT NEAR CLAREMONT MCKENNA COLLEGE. WE DELIVERED THIS IN 2024. THIS ALSO HAS, UM, HIGH QUALITY APARTMENT INTERIORS AND AMENITY SPACE. AGAIN, UH, MADERA, SAN DIEGO AND MADERA HOLLYWOOD, JUST AS TWO MORE, UH, REFERENCE PROJECTS. SO I'LL BRING IN ARME WITH TCA TO, UH, PRESENT MORE ON THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT'S DESIGN. THANK YOU, RYAN. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. I'M ARM IAN WITH TCA ARCHITECTS. UM, I THINK MANJA DID A GREAT JOB OF DESCRIBING THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING. SO I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE EXTERIOR A LITTLE BIT. SO, IN, IN GENERAL, WHEN WE'RE DESIGNING THESE BUILDINGS, I THINK TAKING IN THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE IS AS IMPORTANT AS TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE RESIDENT EXPERIENCE. UM, THE RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, EXPERIENCE THE PROJECT FROM WITHIN YOU, THE AMENITIES AND THE UNIT FINISHES AND WHATNOT. HOWEVER, THE PUBLIC AND THE RES, UH, PEDESTRIANS, THEY DO END UP EXPERIENCING THE BUILDING ITSELF AND THE SURROUNDINGS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT CREATES. SO, IN, IN, IN OUR DESIGN, IT WAS IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE BRINGING IN OUR BEST, PUTTING OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD ON THE GROUND FLOOR, BRINGING IN SOME ENHANCED [00:50:01] MATERIALS, WHICH INCLUDE, UH, TILE AND, UM, LAP SIDING AMONG OTHER THINGS. UM, BRINGING IN GREAT AND LUSH STRATEGICALLY, STRATEGICALLY LOCATED LANDSCAPING WAS KEY TO SOFTEN UP THAT EDGE, UH, AS WELL AS PROVIDING SOME BUFFER BETWEEN THE GROUND FLOOR UNITS ALONG OCEAN, AS WELL AS, UM, THE EO AND ON ALL THE OTHER SIDES. AND SOME OF THESE I'M JUST GONNA RUN THROUGH IS JUST OF THE PROJECT, THE UPPER LEVELS. UM, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THE MASSING HAS BEEN, UH, MADE EVERY, EVERY EFFORT, EVERY EFFORT WAS MADE TO KEEP THE MASSING OF THE PROJECT AS SIMILAR TO THE ORIGINAL DESIGN AS POSSIBLE. WE DO HAVE PLASTER AND METAL RAILINGS ON, UH, ON THE UPPER LEVELS, BUT THE GROUND FLOOR, AGAIN, IS WHERE WE HAVE OUR ENHANCED MATERIALS. UH, THE LANDSCAPING, UM, ALSO PROVIDES A NETWORK OF EOS TO STRAIGHTEN THE CONNECTION TO THE COMMUNITY. AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, THERE'S THE EAST WEST EO THAT RUNS AND CONNECTS THE CIVIC CENTER TO THE, TO LINCOLN PARK. UM, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT A, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE GATES AND THE CLOSING OF IT IN THIS RENDERING. I THINK IT'S SHOWING CLOSE, BUT THE IDEA IS IT WILL BE OPEN AND MORE POROUS TO HA TO BE MORE INVITING, CREATING SOME SITTING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PUBLIC TO GO INSIDE AND JUST ENJOY THE, ENJOY IT AS MUCH AS THE RESIDENTS WOULD. THE NORTH SOUTH SAIL, WHICH USED TO BE A VEHICULAR STREET, WHICH HAS BEEN CONVERTED TO A PEDESTRIAN SAIL, UH, CONNECTS OCEAN BOULEVARD TO BROADWAY AND BRINGS IN AGAIN, THAT CONNECTION AND THE, UM, IMPROVING THE ACCESSIBILITY AND THE WALKABILITY, UM, OF THE ENTIRE BLOCK. AND IN GENERAL, WE FEEL THAT THESE, UM, EOS, WHICH LIMIT THE VEHICULAR ACCESS, ARE ACTIVATING AND PRIORITIZING TO PEDESTRIANS AND THE CREATING A VIBRANT AND A, UH, MORE PUBLIC REALM FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, JUST THE LANDSCAPING. THERE'S SOME, UH, IMAGES OF THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPING. UM, I KNOW THERE WERE SOME CONDITIONS IN THE CONDITIONS APPROVAL, WHICH WE NEED TO MODIFY. SO TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS. TALK ABOUT THESE, JUST JUMPING BACK INTO THE, THE LANDSCAPING IN THE STREETSCAPE, BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT. UM, OUR, OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, LRM IS, UM, IT MAY HAVE NOT SHOWN UP IN THE RENDERING, BUT THE IDEA IS THAT GATE WILL BE OPEN. AND THIS CONNECTION TO LINCOLN PARK WITH THIS PEDESTRIAN POEO IS SOMETHING WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT. WE'RE, WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT WE'RE ABLE TO, WE REALLY, UM, PUT, PUT SOME LUSH LANDSCAPING AND, AND WE'RE EXCITED HOW IT'S GONNA TURN OUT. UM, WE ARE PROVIDING 817 PARKING STALLS. WE, UM, ARE GONNA BE PROVIDING CHARGING CAPABILITIES FOR, FOR EVERY SINGLE RESIDENT IN THE BUILDING. WE ARE PROVIDING 73 AFFORDABLE UNITS. AND, UH, THE REALLY THIS SLIDE IS TO SHOW THE, THE QUALITY OF THE UNIT, UM, THAT WE'RE ENVISIONING. THIS IS FROM THE MADERA ARGYLE PACK, UH, PROJECT THAT WE RECENTLY COMPLETED. AND, UM, WILL BE A, A VERY SIMILAR FIT AND FINISH TO WHAT THE AFFORDABLE AND THE MARKET RATE UNITS ARE IN, IN THIS PROJECT. WE, AS A COMPANY, WE STRIVE TO DELIVER ON SUSTAINABLE INITIATIVES. IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT THING FOR MILL CREEK. UM, WE, YOU KNOW, THE CURRENT CODES ARE, ARE, UM, SUCH THAT WE ARE GONNA BE DELIVERING WHAT WOULD BE A LEAD, UM, EQUIVALENT BUILDING. WE ON OUR OWN DO A-N-G-B-S SILVER CERTIFICATION, AND WE DO A GREAT DEAL OF THOUGHT INTO OUR, UM, ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND OUR, UM, STORM WATER RUNOFF. OUR CONSTRUCTION TEAM IS TOP NOTCH, THE DECADES OF EXPERIENCE BUILDING MULTIFAMILY. AND WE'LL HAVE A, A ROBUSTLY STAFFED TEAM OUT ON THE PROJECT SITE. OUR TEAM SPENDS A GREAT DEAL OF TIME, UM, TRYING TO MINIMIZE ANY IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORS. IT'S, IT, WE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONSITE SAFETY MEETINGS. THERE'S LOTS OF TIME AND THOUGHT THAT GOES INTO DUST CONTROL NOISE AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE HOPE TO BE AS, UM, MINIMIZED OF AN IMPACT AS POSSIBLE THROUGH THE BUILDING PROCESS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL HAVE QUESTIONS NOW. UM, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO, UH, THE DESIGN, UH, KIND OF THOUGHT, UH, FROM THE SHIFT, FROM THE HEAVILY FOCUSED STUDIO FORMAT, IN TERMS OF THE UNIT MIX TO MORE, I WOULD SAY, FAMILY AMENABLE DESIGN. WHAT, WHAT WAS THE DRIVING FACTOR WITH THAT AND, [00:55:01] AND WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE IN TERMS OF SHIFTING AS IT RELATES TO THE KIND OF BUILDING THAT COMMUNITY? YEAH. UM, I, I WOULD SAY AS A WHOLE, REGIONALLY, WHAT, WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THAT POST PANDEMIC, UM, THE WAY THAT PEOPLE LIVE AND THE WAY THAT PEOPLE LIVE WITHIN THEIR HOMES HAS SHIFTED. WE NEED MORE SPACE. WE NEED MORE FLEXIBILITY. UM, WE SEE ACROSS THE COUNTRY, BUT ESPECIALLY HERE IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, THAT, UM, FOLKS SPEND, UH, A COUPLE DAYS A WEEK, YOU KNOW, WORKING FROM HOME COUPLE DAYS A WEEK, GOING INTO THE OFFICE. AND SO HAVING, UM, MORE SPACE WITHIN YOUR UNITS IS IMPORTANT. SO, UM, YES, THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR FAMILIES, THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR ROOMMATES, UM, BUT I, I THINK SORT OF THE, THE GUIDING LIGHT THAT WE'RE SEEING EVERYWHERE IS THAT PEOPLE NEED MORE FLEXIBLE SPACE BECAUSE THE WAY THAT WE USE OUR HOMES HAS DRAMATICALLY SHIFTED POST PANDEMIC. UM, AND IN RELATION TO THAT, YOU HAD MENTIONED, UH, THAT YOU HAD EXPERIENCED WITH OTHER PROJECTS HERE IN THE CITY. WHAT WERE SOME OF THE LEARNINGS THAT, THAT HAVE KIND OF TRANSITIONED, TRANSITIONED OVER TO THIS PROJECT? NOT ONLY WITH THE, THE IMPACTS OF, OF THE PANDEMIC, BUT JUST AS THE DOWNTOWN HAS EVOLVED AND YOU'VE HAD COINCIDENTALLY EXPERIENCE THAT PRE AND THE EVOLUTION AND THE, AND THE ITERATION THAT'S HAPPENED. YEAH. WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE LEARNINGS THAT ARE BEING APPLIED TO THIS PROJECT? UM, THAT LONG BEACH IS A GREAT PLACE TO, UH, LIVE, WORK, PLAY, INVEST. UM, THAT IT'S A, A PLEASURE WORKING WITH EVERYBODY AND THAT FOLKS WANNA LIVE HERE. UM, AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, UM, PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING FOR HOUSING IN LONG BEACH GET MORE OPPORTUNITIES WHEN WE BUILD MORE SUPPLY IN DOWNTOWN LONG BEACH. BUT FOLKS THROUGHOUT THE REGION, THROUGHOUT SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ALSO COME TO LONG BEACH AND REALIZE THAT, UM, IT'S, IT'S AN AMAZING DOWNTOWN. YOU GET TO PLAY AT THE BEACH ON THE WEEKEND, YOU GET TO HAVE A, A, AN URBAN LIFESTYLE, UH, GO OUT TO DINNER AT NIGHT, AND THAT IT'S A RELATIVELY EASY COMMUTE BECAUSE OF TRANSIT, BECAUSE OF, UH, FREEWAY ACCESS TO GET TO ALL OF THE BIG LARGE ECONOMIC HUBS THROUGHOUT THE REGION. UM, LONG BEACH IS A SPECIAL PLACE, AND, AND WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE AGAIN FOR ANOTHER ROUND COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER . YEAH, SO, THANK YOU. UH, I WANT TO, I GUESS I WANT TO JUST HAVE, HAVE YOU ADDRESSED, CAN YOU ADDRESS THE, UM, THE QUESTION THAT WE HAD ABOUT PHASING? SURE. UH, I THINK THAT THAT'S A REALLY BIG RISK IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN HOW THE FUNDING FELL THROUGH ON THIS PREVIOUSLY, AND RIGHT. YOU KNOW, SEVERAL TIMES THE PROJECTS DON'T GO FORWARD. UM, YOU KNOW, I I'M SURE THAT ONE BUILDING IS BETTER THAN A HOLE IN THE GROUND. UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, TWO BUILDINGS IS BETTER THAN ONE BUILDING, RIGHT? UM, THE, THE CAPITAL MARKETS IN, IN THE, IN THE WILD HAVE GENERAL THRESHOLDS, UM, WHERE THE, THE SIZE OF A CHECK THAT CAN BE WRITTEN SORT OF GETS BEYOND THE LIMIT OF JUST WHAT THE FREE MARKET SUPPORTS, AND YOU BECOME AN OUTLIER. UM, AND SO THE PERCEPTION FROM AN INVESTOR WHEN AN OUTLIER IS CREATED IS, IS THAT IT, IT NEEDS TO BE, UH, AN OUTSIZED RETURN AND A, AND AN OUTSIZED REWARD. AND SO RATHER THAN BEING A A DOWN THE FAIRWAY SORT OF INVESTMENT, IT BECOMES TOO BIG. UM, AND IT BECOMES TOO BIG TO A POINT THAT IT BECOMES NON-ACTIONABLE, WHICH MAYBE IS WHAT WE'VE SEEN PLAYED OUT HERE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. SO THE INTENT OF THE PHASING IS TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT REALITY WHICH WE DON'T CONTROL AND DESIGN SOMETHING THAT, UH, CAPITAL MARKETS CAN LOOK AT AND SAY, OH, THIS IS A REGULAR SIZED INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITY AND WE CAN FINANCE THAT. AND SO THE, THE DEAL IS SIMPLY STRUCTURED IN A WAY THAT IT IS FINANCEABLE. UM, AND, AND AS STAFF NOTED, THE INTENT, UH, IS THAT, UH, WHILE WE'RE STILL COMPLETING THE SOUTHERN BUILDING, THAT THE SECOND BUILDING BEGINS CONSTRUCTION, UM, PRIOR TO COMPLETING THE FIRST PHASE, THAT THAT IS THE GOAL. THAT IS THE INTENT. UM, WE'RE JUST DEALING WITH THE REALITY OF WHAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED WITH CAPITAL MARKETS. MEGAN, I CAN DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT. UM, GOING INTO THE TALK ABOUT THE, [01:00:01] THE EO AND THE, AND THE RETAIL, I KNOW THAT RETAIL IS, UH, NOT DOING WELL ANYWHERE, , UM, AND I CAN DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'D BE TAKING IT OUT OF THE, YOU KNOW, MINIMIZING IT. I MEAN, WE CAN SEE THE, ANYWAY, UH, THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS BASED ON THE RENDERING. THERE'S A VERY SMALL GATE THAT, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE MUCH, THE ACCESS WON'T BE, YOU KNOW, IT'S PROBABLY LIKE, WHAT, SIX OR EIGHT FEET OR SO. BUT COMPARATIVELY, THERE'S A BIG FENCE, SMALL GATE, AND I AM WORRIED THAT IT'S ALREADY GOING TO LOOK LIKE PUB UH, PRIVATE SPACE. PUTTING A VISUAL REPRESENTATIVE REPRESENTATION OF A BARRIER THERE IS GOING TO TELL PEOPLE, YOU NEED TO WALK AROUND THIS BUILDING. SO, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO LOOK AT THAT AGAIN. UH, BUT GIVEN THE LOCATION OF IT, THE HISTORY OF IT, AND SPECIFICALLY HOW AND WHY IT WAS, IT WAS HOW IT WAS SOLD TO FOLKS IN PUBLIC. AND, YOU KNOW, IT BEING A FORMER, THE FORMER, UH, CITY HALL SITE, UM, SHOULD NOT BE CLOSED OFF TO THE PUBLIC OR, YOU KNOW, EVEN IMPLICITLY. UM, AND SO I, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO APPROACH THAT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S AT LEAST SOME CONSIDERATION TO MAKING IT CLEAR THAT THIS IS, IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS ACCESSIBLE AND WELCOMING TO THE PUBLIC. PEOPLE SHOULDN'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE WALKING THROUGH PEOPLE'S FRONT YARDS 'CAUSE THEY WON'T DO THAT. SURE. UM, I'LL START WITH YOUR RETAIL COMMENT AND THEN GO TO THE POST SALE. UM, THE, THE INTENT OF THE RETAIL THAT WE DO HAVE IS, UH, TO HAVE A, A OCCUPIED, VIBRANT SPACE. AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM, RETAIL IS, IS LEASED TO SOMEBODY. WE, WE CAN'T GUARANTEE AN OCCUPANT. AND SO THE, THE THOUGHT AND THE THOUGHTFULNESS BEHIND WHERE OUR RETAIL IS AND WHAT WE INTEND IT TO BE IS SOMETHING THAT WE THINK IS GONNA BE VERY ACTIVATED. THAT CREATES, UH, A GREAT LUNCH SPOT FOR THE, THE CITY HALL COMPLEX AND STAFF THAT, UH, IS A GREAT COFFEE SHOP ON THE WEEKENDS. THAT IS A GOOD PLACE TO GO PICK UP SOME STUFF AT A, AT A MARKET TO SIT OUTSIDE WITHIN THE PEO AND HAVE A MEAL. UM, WE'VE GONE TO GREAT LENGTHS WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PLACEMENT OF THE FOOTPRINTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HONORING THE LINE OF SIGHT BETWEEN THE CITY HALL PASS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE TRANSIT TERMINAL, BE BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THAT'S THE GOAL, IS THE PRESERVATION OF THAT LINE OF SIGHT. UM, SO THERE'S BEEN A, A, A LOT OF THOUGHTFULNESS ABOUT WHERE THE POEO IS. ULTIMATELY, THE FACT THAT THERE IS SOME ACCESS CONTROL THERE, UH, IS, IS A REALITY OF, OF THE FACT THAT IN NON-BUSINESS HOURS, UM, WE DO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF GROUND FLOOR RESIDENTIAL THAT REALLY HAS NO ABILITY TO BE SECURED WITHOUT SOME FORM OF ACCESS CONTROL. UH, WE DO HAVE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT ARE PRETTY EXPLICIT ABOUT THE, THE OPENNESS OF IT, UH, DURING, DURING SPECIFIC HOURS. AND, UH, AGAIN, THE DESIGN INTENT REALLY HAS BEEN THOUGHTFUL TO PRESERVE THAT, THAT VISUAL CUE THAT THERE'S A, A CORRIDOR HERE CONNECTING US ALL. UH, SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, UH, THINK THAT WE HAVE ADOPTED THEM AS THE DESIGN ALLOWS. UH, AND, AND, AND I I THINK THAT ULTIMATELY THE VISION YOU'RE STATING IS, IS ALSO OUR VISION. THANK YOU. AND THEN I WANT TO TOUCH ON, UM, THE PARKING. SO RIGHT NOW IT'S PARKED AT 1.1 SPACES PER UNIT. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT HOW THAT SURE NUMBER WAS REACHED? YEAH. UM, WE, WE ARE IN A, UH, CAR CENTRIC, UH, WORLD HERE IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. UH, AND, AND MANY OF US STILL DRIVE EVEN, UH, WITH TRANSIT OPTIONS AVAILABLE. UH, WHAT WHAT WE FIND IS THAT PARKING THESE COMMUNITIES, SO THAT ONE BEDROOM HOMES HAVE ONE STALL, AND THAT TWO BEDROOM AND THREE BEDROOM HOMES HAVE TWO STALLS IS THE GUIDING LIGHT, UM, THAT WE STRIVE FOR. AT THE SAME TIME, THERE'S A REALITY, UH, THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BE SENSITIVE TO COSTS. AND SO DIGGING A DEEPER HOLE IS VERY EXPENSIVE TO PARK [01:05:01] MORE PARKING STALLS, MORE DIGGING, MORE CONCRETE, MORE WATERPROOFING. AND SO AGAIN, IT'S FINDING THAT BALANCE OF HOW DO WE CREATE AN ACTIONABLE, COST-EFFECTIVE DESIGN THAT, UH, IS ULTIMATELY GONNA MEET THE NEEDS OF ITS, OF ITS RESIDENTS. UH, AND, AND SO THAT WAS THE LOGIC TO GET TO WHERE WE ARRIVED. SO I'M, I'M ACTUALLY CONCERNED THAT IT'S OVER PARKED, UH, GIVEN THE LOCATION. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE LOCATION OF WHERE IT'S AT, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, I'M TRYING TO DO TOO MANY THINGS AT THE SAME TIME, , BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAD PROPOSED THIS AT 1.1 IN EAST LONG BEACH, I'D SAY I THINK THAT WAS GREAT. YOU KNOW, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THE FACT THAT WE ARE IN THE STRONGEST TRANSIT CORRIDOR, THE STRONGEST WALKABILITY, YOU KNOW, THE BEST CONNECTION TO DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES. UH, YOU KNOW, UM, SOME, SOME OF AMONG THE BEST BIKING, UH, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DENSEST AMENITIES IN TERMS OF WALKING TO PLACES, I DON'T SEE THAT REFLECTED IN 1.1. AND THAT'S MY CONCERN BECAUSE I'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT HOW WE AREN'T MEETING OUR TRANSPORTATION GOALS IN TERMS OF REDUCING VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED. AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THINGS LIKE THIS. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HOPING THAT PEOPLE WILL WALK TO PINE AVENUE, BUT WE SEE WHERE STUDIES SHOW THAT IF SOMEONE HAS A CAR AVAILABLE, THEY WILL USE IT. AND THE THING THAT CREATES THE OPPORTUNITY TO OWN A CAR, THE, THE THING THAT ENCOURAGES PEOPLE TO HAVE A CAR IS THAT, UH, IS PARKING BEING AVAILABLE. AND LIKE I SAID, I DON'T SEE THAT BEING REFLECTED IN THERE. AND I WONDER IF THERE WAS ANY FURTHER CONSIDERATION. AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE SITE AND THE RESOURCES AND, AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITIES, IF THERE'S ANY CONSIDERATION TO LOWERING THAT NUMBER, WE FIND THAT OUR RESIDENTS ULTIMATELY USE THE PARKING AND DESIRE IT. UM, FOR THE FOLKS THAT NEED TO COMMUTE TO IRVINE FOR WORK, THEY'RE GONNA NEED A CAR OR TO THE WEST SIDE, THEY'RE GONNA NEED A CAR. UM, AND SO THERE'S A MULTITUDE OF, OF OPTIONS FOR TRANSIT. I, I AGREE. I WOULD HOPE THAT, UM, RESIDENTS THAT LIVE HERE WALK TO PINE, IT'LL BE A VERY PLEASANT WALK TO PINE. IT'S A BLOCK AWAY. UM, BUT I, I THINK THAT THE CITIZENS ALSO NEED AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO COMMUTE TO THEIR OFFICE CENTERS. AND, AND WE FIND THAT, UM, RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITIES, THROUGHOUT SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA HAVE VEHICLES. OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, DO YOU KNOW ANY, UH, WHAT SOME OF THE RATIOS FROM PREVIOUS PROJECTS ARE? I, I, I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT THERE ARE NEIGHBORING APARTMENT COMMUNITIES IMMEDIATELY NORTH OF US THAT, UM, ARE UNDER PARKED FROM A, A BUILT ENVIRONMENT. AND THAT, THAT BECOMES PROBLEMATIC FOR THEIR LONG-TERM OPERATIONS BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE CARS. AND SO WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A HOUSE THAT DOESN'T HAVE A, A PARKING SPACE ASSOCIATED WITH IT, THAT HOUSE IS SITTING EMPTY. OKAY. UM, I THINK THAT WAS WHAT I HAVE FOR RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH THOUGH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AT THIS POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING ON THIS ITEM TO PLEASE COME FORWARD SEEING NONE. ANY VIRTUAL CON OH, SORRY. JUMPED THE GUN. HERE. COME ON UP. SORRY. TAKE IT UP HERE. HI, MY NAME IS MARVIN MCTIGUE. UM, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY TWO THINGS. UH, ONE IS ON THE PARKING ISSUE THAT YOU BROUGHT UP. THE, THE GOAL IS NOBLE. UM, I MOVED HERE 13, 14 MONTHS AGO. I PASSED ON ABOUT FIVE DIFFERENT APARTMENT BUILDINGS. 'CAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE PARKING, UM, IN DOWNTOWN LONG BEACH. THERE WAS NO PARKING AVAILABLE OR THEY WERE GONNA RENT ME A SPACE IN SOME OF THE BUILDING. AND, UH, I WOULD NOT HAVE MOVED TO LONG BEACH. UH, I, I USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION ALL THE TIME, BUT I NEED A PLACE FOR MY CAR. I'M NOT GONNA SELL [01:10:01] MY CAR 'CAUSE I NEED IT TO GO PLACES. UH, THAT'S THAT. BUT THE OTHER THING IS ON THE EO, I MEAN, WE'RE ALREADY RIGHT NOW BLOCKING OFF THE, UM, I MEAN, AND, AND I, I GET WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING FOR A CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS, BUT WHAT ARE WE DOING RIGHT NOW AT THE, UH, AT THE LIBRARY? WE'RE FENCING IT OFF BECAUSE OF THE HOMELESS SITUATION. I THINK BY HAVING THIS SPACE OPEN AS YOU FORESEE IT, YOU'RE INVITING THAT SAME ISSUE. AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA THAT THEY HAVE THE FENCES. THAT'S ALL. THANKS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. HI. I AM MARY TURNER. I LIVE AT 400 WEST OCEAN, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. AND UH, MARVIN WAS OBVIOUSLY MY FRIEND AND WE ARE AVID PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION PEOPLE. WE'RE ROAD CYCLISTS. I AM PROBAB WE'RE, I TOOK, I TRAVELED RECENTLY AND TOOK THE METRO BACK AND FORTH TO LAX FOR 35 CENTS. AS A SENIOR, IT'S A GREAT DEAL, BUT I TOO HAVE A CAR BECAUSE ALSO LIKE TO DO SOME OTHER THINGS THAT I CAN'T TAKE BUS 1 21 OR TAKE THE METRO TO. SO I COMPLETELY AGREE. YOU NEED AT LEAST ONE PARKING SPACE GENERALLY FOR UNITS. UM, THE SECOND THING ABOUT CLOSING IT OFF CAMDEN YARDS IS AN ISSUE. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF KIDS THERE, TEENAGERS BECAUSE IT'S OPEN. AND I THINK THEY HAVE DIFFICULTY RENTING THOSE FIRST FLOOR UNITS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T LOCK UP THE AREA AT NIGHT. SO YOU CAN HAVE IT OPEN ALL YOU WANT, BUT UNTIL YOU GOT ENOUGH SECURITY, IT MAKES IT REALLY HARD. AND I THINK, UM, MARVIN'S COMMENTS ON THE LIBRARY ARE JUST REFLECTIVE OF THE SITUATION I WOULD'VE LOVED, UH, A GROCERY STORE DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S HAPPENING. I'M NOT SURE OF WHAT THE, BECAUSE I'VE ONLY LIVED IN LONG BEACH ABOUT FOUR YEARS NOW. AND, UM, AND I LIVED IN A HIGH RISE IN DOWNTOWN NASHVILLE AND THEY COULD NOT SELL, SELL BUILDINGS ON THAT STREET, TWO BLOCKS FROM BROADWAY UNLESS THEY HAD PARKING, SOME PARKING. UM, BUT I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THE GROCERY STORE THAT CLOSED A FEW YEARS AGO. THAT IS ONLY TWO BLOCKS AWAY. THE VAUGHN'S HERE IS TERRIBLE. MOST PEOPLE DO NOT GO TO VAUGHN'S THAT LIVE ON OCEAN. THEY TRIED. UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT. UM, AND GO DOWN TO MARINA AFRICA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH MA'AM. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK? COME ON UP, SIR. UH, HELLO. MY NAME IS, UH, UM, OMAR. I LIVE ON 4 2 1 WEST, UH, WEST BROADWAY, SO RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET ON THAT SIDE. UM, AND I'M ACTUALLY PART OF A GROUP THAT'S TRYING TO, UM, REVITALIZE THE WEST GATEWAY COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION AND SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE, UH, TALKING ABOUT AS WELL. UH, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. WAS ONE WAS GROCERIES. UM, AGAIN, WE, ME AND MY WIFE AND I, WE TRAVEL TO, UM, UH, TO TRADER JOE'S ON LONG BEACH BOULEVARD, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN GET THE GROCERIES THAT WE NEED. UM, SO I WOULD REALLY LOVE, UH, AN EXPANDED CONVERSATION ON THE GROCERIES. 'CAUSE WE ALSO AVOID BONDS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. UM, BUT WITH THE PARKING SITUATION, THAT'S ONE REALLY BIG THING THAT AS WEST GATEWAY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IN OUR INITIAL MEETING. UM, BECAUSE PARKING IS CREATING ISSUES WITH PEOPLE PARKING IN RED ZONES AND IS CREATING ACCIDENTS ON FIFTH STREET, ON SIXTH STREET, ON SEVENTH STREET, ON CHESTNUT, AT MAGNOLIA. UM, AND IT'S ALSO CREATING, UH, JUST ISSUES. I RIDE A MOTORCYCLE. UH, MY WIFE DRIVES A CAR. SHE WORKS IN WATTS AT, UH, KAISER AND WATTS. UM, AND SOMETIMES I'LL BE COMING, I'LL BE COMING DOWN THE STREET. I'LL PUT GAS, I'LL BE COMING DOWN, UH, MAGNOLIA, TURN ON FOURTH. UM, AND THERE'S CARS THAT ARE PARKED RIGHT THERE. AND I'VE BEEN ALMOST HIT MULTIPLE TIMES, UH, TRYING TO GET HOME, UH, BECAUSE CARS TAKE THOSE TURNS REALLY FAST AND THEY CAN'T SEE AROUND THOSE CORNERS. UM, AND THAT'S REALLY BECOMING, THAT'S REALLY BECOMING A BIGGER ISSUE THAT HAS TO DO WITH PARKING, UM, JUST IN THE AREA. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE, UM, HOW THE, THE MILLS CREEK TEAM IS THINKING ABOUT THAT. UM, ESPECIALLY AS IT'S BECOMING MORE AND MORE OF A, UH, AN ISSUE, UM, THAT WE WOULD LOVE, UH, TO CONTINUE HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH, UH, WITH LONG BEACH GENERALLY. BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE, ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK? NO, COME ON UP. THANK YOU, SIR. HI, I'M PETER THRU. I LIVE IN DOWNTOWN LONG BEACH AND I'M, I HOPE THIS ISN'T TOO MUCH OFF TOPIC BECAUSE IT'S THE TOPIC EVERYBODY KEEPS MENTIONING. UH, I'M, I'VE SERVED ON A BOARD OF A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING, RIGHT? TWO BLOCKS FROM HERE. AND, UM, UH, IN SOME CAPACITY I SAW THE PLANS FOR THE FORMER, UM, UH, UH, ITERATION OF THE BUILDING. AND THERE WERE, THEY WERE HOPES FOR A WHOLE FOODS THERE. 'CAUSE THERE WAS A, A TON OF SPACE. AND OF COURSE, WE KNOW THAT ALL OF THESE RETAIL SPACES IN THE DOWNTOWN BUILDINGS ARE NOT THERE, ARE, ARE EMPTY, EVEN [01:15:01] RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE TERRACE THEATER, RIGHT IN FRONT WITH THAT METRO STOP THERE, UM, BROADWAY BLOCK AND THE OTHER BUILDINGS, THE, THE RETAILS EMPTY IN BANK OF AMERICA 1 0 8. MY QUESTION IS, IS FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, I LIVE QUITE NEAR THE FORMER NUMERO UNO, WHICH IS AT THE PACIFIC AND FOURTH INTERSECTION WHERE THAT SUPERMARKET WAS. ARE YOU AWARE OF, OF ANYBODY WHO HAS ANY AMBITIONS? I MEAN, AS PLANNERS, UM, WE'VE WONDERED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHETHER SOMEBODY'S GONNA KNOCK IT DOWN AND DEVELOP IT INTO SOMETHING RESIDENTIAL OR WHETHER THERE IS ANY IDEA HOWEVER MANY YEARS OUT THAT IT MIGHT BE, UM, A SUPERMARKET. AGAIN, THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. AND I'M SURE STAFF CAN HELP YOU AFTERWARDS IF NEEDED. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YEAH, SIR. I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT AS PART OF THE HEARING, BUT THERE'S A BUNCH OF STAFF OVER HERE, SO, UH, YOU CAN GET A BUSINESS CARD FROM SOMEONE AND THEY'D BE GLAD TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ABOUT THAT PROPERTY. ANY LAST CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS IN PERSON HERE? OKAY, SEEING NONE, WE'LL GO TRANSITION TO VIRTUAL COMMENTS. IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FEATURE. NOW. IF DIALING IN TELEPHONICALLY, PRESS STAR NINE NOW. SEE NONE. THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TURN IT BACK. UM, COMMISSIONER KIMSON, YOU HAD A QUESTION? IF, UH, I, I HAVE A, I REMEMBER WHAT I WANTED TO ASK THE APPLICANTS ABOUT, UM, HOW THE PARKING WILL BE PRICED, UH, AND, AND WHETHER IT WOULD BE, UH, UNBUNDLED FROM THE RENTS OR THE, UH, UH, LEASES. YEAH. SO AS RYAN COMES UP, I JUST, FOR THE BENEFIT OF YOU, COMMISSIONER, BUT THE ENTIRE COMMISSION, I ALSO JUST WANTED TO, UH, KIND OF TAKE A MOMENT TO COMPARE. UM, THE PREVIOUS PROJECT DID HAVE A WHOLE ADDITIONAL, UM, LAYER OF PARKING WAS PARKED AT 1.53. SO I GET THAT IT DIDN'T, UM, DECREASE TO THE AMOUNT, UM, MAYBE THAT YOU WERE EXPECTING OR, OR HOPING FOR, BUT I DID WANT TO LET THE WHOLE COMMISSION KNOW ABOUT SORT OF THE, THE TRAJECTORY AND THAT IT WAS A DOWNWARD REVISION. IT, IT IS UNBUNDLED. IT, IT'S, IT'S FREE FOR THOSE WHO, UH, CHOOSE THAT AMENITY. SO IT, IT'S, IT'S NOT INCLUDED WITH RENT OR WITH ANY OF THE HOMES, BUT IT'S FREE. NO, THERE WILL BE A, A PRICE TO IT. OH, IT'S, IT'S UN UNBUNDLED. IT HOW, UM, IT'S FREE TO CHOOSE. YEAH. THANK YOU. UH, HOW, HOW WILL THAT, HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW THAT WILL BE PRICED? UH, RIGHT NOW, I DON'T, UM, SPECIFICALLY, BUT IN GENERAL, UM, OTHER COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT DOWNTOWN LONG BEACH, UH, A PARKING STALL RANGES ANYWHERE FROM A HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH TO $300 A MONTH, DEPENDING ON THE COMMUNITY, WHETHER THERE'S AN EV CHARGER ASSOCIATED WITH IT, WHETHER IT'S COMPACT, STANDARD, TANDEM. RIGHT. THERE'S LOT, LOTS OF DIFFERENTIATIONS, BUT THERE, THERE IS A MARKET OF, OF, UH, THERE. AND ARE THOSE, THIS MAY BE GETTING TOO, TOO TECHNICAL INTO YOUR BUSINESS PLAN, ARE THOSE EXPECTED TO PAY FOR THEMSELVES, OR IS THAT JUST SORT OF WHATEVER THE MARKET WILL BEAR AS FAR AS REPAYMENT GOES? UH, IT, IT'S WHAT THE, THE, THE MARKET, UH, YEAH, IT'S SIM SIMILAR TO, UH, WHAT HOUSING RENTS WILL BE RIGHT TO PROJECT IN THE FUTURE IS, IS, UH, A CRYSTAL BALL. YEAH, SAME, SAME CONCEPT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALTHOUGH I DIDN'T, SORRY, ONE, ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION, JUST THAT DAWNED ON ME. UM, DOES THAT, SINCE IT IS UNBUNDLED, DOES THAT ALSO MEAN THAT, UH, THE AFFORDABLE UNITS SURE. WILL HAVE, I DON'T WANNA CALL IT A RESERVED QUOTA, BUT WHERE THEY WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE, THEY WILL IN EQUAL PROPORTION, YES. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONS? ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR JUST A QUICK COMMENT? THIS IS REALLY ABOUT, UM, THE FEASIBILITY IS DRIVING THE DESIGN. WE ONLY HAVE ONE OPPORTUNITY WHEN THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT TO CAPTURE LOW INCOME AND VERY LOW INCOME HOUSING. AND, UM, I THINK WE ALL FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PROJECT HAS TO BE FEASIBLE FOR THE DEVELOPER TO GO FORWARD. UM, AND THE RISK IS THE SITE REMAINING VACANT. UM, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT AREA IN THE CIVIC CENTER. UM, I THINK IT'LL BE AN AMAZING PROJECT. IT'LL BRING VALUE TO OCEAN BOULEVARD. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UM, I'LL, I'LL JUST SAY ONE THING THAT, UH, IN REGARDS TO THE DESIGN ELEMENT, AGAIN, IT'S, UH, I THINK IT'S A POSITIVE MOVE IN TERMS OF THE, THE MIX. I, I, I, THE ORIGINAL MIX I THOUGHT WAS A LITTLE SKEWED, TOO HEAVY ON THE INDIVIDUAL, WHICH CREATES MORE OF THE PARKING ISSUE, MORE OF THE CONGESTION, MORE OF THE DEMAND. BUT, UM, IT IS NICE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS, UH, DESIGN [01:20:01] AND EVERY, ALL THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT ARE DONE WILL DEFINITELY IMPROVE THE DOWNTOWN AND, AND , EVEN THE, THE NICE SINKING HOLE THAT'S THERE. UM, BUT, UH, WITH THAT REGARD, I, I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO, TO THE BEAUTIFUL DESIGN AND HAVING IT COME TO FRUITION. UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SEEING COMMISSIONER? YEAH, I JUST LIKE TO SAY, UH, AS A DEVELOPER WITH, UM, INSUFFICIENT PARKING AND EMPTY RETAIL SPACES, I THINK YOU GOT IT RIGHT. I JUST WANNA MAKE A, MAKE A INTERESTING OBSERVATION. THE, THE, UH, WHEN WE, WHEN WE'RE FINALLY TALKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING WITH THE SITE, IS WHEN THEY ARE ACTUALLY ACTIVATING IT WITH THE, UH, THE BMX THING. BUT, UH, JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS KIND OF FUNNY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTION TO CALL A QUESTION AND, UH, GO FOR THE VOTE VICE CHAIR WHERE YOU CAN TAKE OVER, I COULD TAKE A VERBAL VICE CHAIR WHERE YES, MOTION IS CARRIED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND GOOD LUCK TO THE DEVELOPER ON THIS PROJECT. UM, NEXT ITEM PLEASE. ITEM FOUR, [4. 26-54619 Recommendation to accept Categorical Exemption CE-26-011 finding the project exempt pursuant to State CEQA Guidelines Categorical Exemption, Section 15331 and 15332 (Class 31: Historical Resource Restoration/Rehabilitation and Class 32: In-Fill Development Projects); and Approve a Site Plan Review request and adopt the proposed findings and conditions of approval thereto, to allow the adaptive reuse of an existing 6-story office building into 69 residential units on floors two through six. Of these units, 11 percent are designated as very low income and 9 percent are moderate income. The project includes a rooftop addition of 3,345 square feet, consisting of a trellis covered community garden and accessory circulation areas. Minor exterior modifications including restoration of the clock tower and minor historic rehabilitation to the building are also proposed. The first floor will include new areas for mail pick up and a community lounge and the basement will house shared laundry facilities and bike and scooter storage. The existing commercial spaces on the first floor will remain. The property is located at 115 Pine Avenue in the PD-30 Zoning district and is a designated Historic Landmark known as First National Bank Building of Long Beach. (District 1)       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] RECOMMENDATION TO ACCEPT CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION CE DASH 26 DASH 11, FINDING THE PROJECT EXEMPT PURSUANT TO STATE CA GUIDELINES, CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION, SECTION 1, 5 3, 3, 1, AND 1, 5, 3, 3, 2, UH, AND APPROVE A SITE PLAN, REVIEW, REQUEST AND ADOPT THE PROPOSED FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. THERE TO, TO ALLOW THE ADAPTIVE REUSE OF AN EXISTING SIX STORY OFFICE BUILDING INTO 69 RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON FLOORS TWO THROUGH SIX OF THESE UNITS, 11% ARE DESIGNATED AS VERY LOW INCOME AND 9% ARE MODERATE INCOME. THE PROJECT INCLUDES A ROOFTOP ADDITION OF 3,345 SQUARE FEET CONSISTING OF A TRELLIS COVERED COMMUNITY GARDEN AND ACCESSORY ACCESSORY CIRCULATION AREAS. MINOR EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS, INCLUDING RESTORATION OF THE CLOCK TOWER AND MINOR HISTORIC REHABILITATION TO THE BUILDING ARE ALSO PROPOSED. THE FIRST FLOOR WILL INCLUDE NEW AREAS FOR MALE PICKUP AND A COMMUNITY LOUNGE. AND THE BASEMENT WILL HOUSE SHARED LAUNDRY FACILITIES AND BIKE AND SCOOTER STORAGE. THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL SPACES ON THE FIRST FLOOR WILL REMAIN. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1 1 5 PINE AVENUE IN THE PD DASH 30 ZONING DISTRICT, AND IS DESIGNATED HISTORIC LANDMARK, KNOWN AS FIRST NATIONAL BANK BUILDING OF LONG BEACH DISTRICT ONE. MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PLEASE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WARE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CLEMSON. WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO STAFF FOR A PRESENTATION. YES. UH, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, UH, WE'RE EXCITED TO, UM, HAVE STAFF PRESENT TO THIS ADAPTIVE REUSE PROJECT WITH NO PARKING AT ONE 15 PINE NAV LIANA ORGA. OKAY. THANK YOU ALLISON. AND GOOD EVENING CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS BEFORE YOU IS AN ADAPTIVE REUSE PROJECT LOCATED AT ONE 15 PINE AVENUE. THE PROJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE PD 30 ZONING DISTRICT AND FALLS UNDER THE GENERAL PLANS DOWNTOWN PLACE TYPE. IT IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF FIRST STREET IN PINE AVENUE. IT'S CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH A 61,634 SQUARE FOOT SIX STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING. THE SURROUNDING LAND USES INCLUDE COMMERCIAL USES ALL AROUND TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, AND WEST, WITH SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL FURTHER IN EACH DIRECTION. THE SITE IS WITHIN AB 2097 AND IS EXEMPT FROM MEETING PARKING REGULATIONS. THE LOT SPANS ABOUT APPROXIMATELY 11,625 SQUARE FEET AND IS A REGISTERED LANDMARK KNOWN AS THE FIRST NATIONAL BANK BUILDING. THIS SLIDE GIVES A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE SITE FROM 1836 TO 1990. IN 1906, THE STRUCTURE WAS BUILT IN THE FRENCH RENAISSANCE REVIVAL ARCHITECTURAL STYLE, AND IN 1990 IT WAS LISTED ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES. TODAY, THE GROUND FLOOR HOUSES LA OPERA AT A NORTHERN ITALIAN RESTAURANT ESTABLISHED IN 1990, AN ALLEGRIA RESTAURANT. THE REMAINDER OF THE FLOORS ARE USED FOR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE USES. UH, THESE IMAGES SHOW THE CURRENT CONDITIONS WITH VIEWS FROM THE SOUTHEAST AND SOUTHWEST [01:25:01] ALONG EAST FIRST STREET. HERE ARE THE TWO EAST FACING VIEWS, PROVIDING PERSPECTIVES FROM PINE AVENUE AND TOP DOWN VIEW FROM THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING. IN THESE PHOTOS, YOU CAN SEE THE NORTH VIEW, INCLUDING THE EXISTING FA SALE FROM PINE AVENUE AND THE ROOF-MOUNTED CLOCK TOWER. THE PROPOSED PROJECT INVOLVES THE ADAPTIVE REUSE OF THE SIX STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING, ALONG WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF A 3,345 SQUARE FOOT ROOFTOP ADDITION. THIS ADDITION WILL FEATURE A COMMUNITY GARDEN AND ACCESSORY CIRCULATION AREAS. EXTERIOR AND INTERIOR MODIFICATIONS INCLUDE REHABILITATION OF THE CLOCK TOWER AND MINOR HISTORIC REHABILITATION TO THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING. INTERIOR WORK INCLUDES THE MODIFICATION OF 858 SQUARE FEET OF BASEMENT AREA TO BE CONVERTED INTO SHARED LAUNDRY FACILITIES AND BIKE AND SCOOTER PARKING AND STORAGE. THE FIRST FLOOR OF VACANT COMMERCIAL TENANT SPACES WILL BE CONVERTED INTO A COMMUNITY LOUNGE AND MAIL-IN DELIVERY ROOM FOR RESIDENTS. THE PROJECT WILL INCLUDE 69 DWELLING UNITS WITH 11% OF THE UNITS DESIGNATED FOR INCLUSIONARY HOUSING AND 9% VOLUNTARY PROVIDED MODERATE INCOME UNITS. THE PROJECT PROVIDES EIGHT LOW INCOME AND SIX MODERATE INCOME UNITS. THE UNIT BREAKDOWN CONSISTS OF 13 STUDIO APARTMENTS AND 35 1 BEDROOM APARTMENTS, INCLUDING ONE MANAGER'S UNIT AND 21 2 BEDROOM UNITS. THE AFFORDABLE UNITS ARE CONDITIONED TO BE DISTRIBUTED EVENLY THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT. THE TABLES ON THE SCREEN PROVIDE A BREAKDOWN OF EACH UNIT TYPE AND AFFORDABLE LEVEL ON EACH FLOOR. UPON REVIEW, THE PROJECT COMPLIES WITH PD 30 DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND THE ADAPTIVE REUSE REGULATIONS, INCLUDING SETBACKS, HEIGHT, LOCK COVERAGE, FAR, AFFORDABLE UNIT MIX ACROSS THE FLOOR PLANS, PARKING, LANDSCAPING, INDOOR COMMON OPEN SPACE, AND BIKE PARKING. THE PROJECT IS REQUESTING SEVERAL WAIVERS PURSUANT TO CITY'S ENHANCED DENSITY BONUS ORDINANCE, AND THE PROVIDE BY THE PROVIDED AFFORDABLE UNITS. THESE WAIVERS INCLUDE RESIDENTIAL UNIT SIZE, LACK OF PRIVATE OPEN SPACE, COMMON OUTDOOR, OPEN SPACE, AND PRIVATE STORAGE. THE CITY'S ENHANCED DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM ALLOWS DEVELOPERS TO OBTAIN WAIVERS AND CONCESSIONS IN RETURN FOR RESTRICTED AFFORDABLE UNITS. AS THIS PROJECT CONTAINS BOTH VERY LOW INCOME AND MODERATE INCOME UNITS, IT IS ELIGIBLE FOR CONCESSIONS AND WAIVERS UNDER THE EDB. GIVEN THE PROVISIONS OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE ADAPTIVELY REUSING AND EXISTING STRUCTURE AND THE LOCATION OF THE PROJECT IN THE DOWNTOWN CORE, WAIVING THE NON-COMPLIANT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND POLICY OF THE LAND USE ELEMENT AND THE CITY'S EDB PROGRAM. IN THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN. THE EXISTING BUILDING WILL BE REUSED IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION, AND THE PROPOSED ROOFTOP ADDITION WILL NOT ENCROACH INTO ANY REQUIRED SETBACKS. THE BUILDING CURRENTLY SITS ON ALL PROPERTY LINES. HERE IS THE BASEMENT FLOOR PLAN WHERE SHARED LAUNDRY FACILITIES AND 60 BIKE AND SCOOTER PARKING SPACES ARE PROPOSED. IF WE CAN JUST PAUSE THE STAFF PRESENTATION QUICKLY, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE MAY HAVE A RECUSAL ON THE COMMISSION AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ACCOMMODATE THAT BEFORE THERE'S ANY PARTICIPATION ON THE ITEM. I TURN IT OVER TO YOU. COMMISSIONER LIMUS. YES, I'D LIKE TO, UH, RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS VOTE, UH, AS I HAVE A, UH, PROPERTY. UH, I'M ONE OF THE OWNERS OF A PROPERTY WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF THIS ONE. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER, BUT IT'S A VERY COOL PROJECT. WE'LL COME BACK AND GET YOU WHEN IT'S, WHEN WE'RE READY. WE'LL, WE'LL COME BACK AND BRING YOU BACK IN. OKAY, THANKS. THANKS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. SORRY. SORRY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT'S FINE. . UM, ON THIS SLIDE, UM, YOU'LL SEE THE FIRST FLOOR PLAN, WHICH IS ALSO HOME TO LAW OPERA ITALIAN RESTAURANT TOWARDS THE SOUTH OF THE BUILDING AND ALLEGRIA RESTAURANT TOWARDS THE NORTH. THE PREVIOUS TENANT SPACE IS LOCATED IN THE CENTER OF THE BUILDING, WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THE PROJECT FLOOR PLAN, PROVIDING NEW MAIL AND PACKAGE DELIVERY AREA AND COMMUNITY LOUNGE. HERE'S A TYPICAL FLOOR PLAN OF THE PROJECT AS CONDITIONS. THE AFFORDABLE UNITS ARE DISTRIBUTED EVENLY THROUGHOUT FLOORS TWO THROUGH SIX WITH VERY LOW INCOME SHOWN IN ORANGE AND MODERATE INCOME. IN BLUE, THE MANAGER'S UNIT IS SHOWN IN GREEN AND WILL BE LOCATED ON THE SECOND FLOOR. EACH FLOOR WILL CONTAIN A 54 SQUARE FOOT TRASH ROOM WITH BILLING MANAGEMENT AND CHARGE OF TRASH SERVICES. 21 LARGER UNITS WILL CONTAIN IN UNIT LAUNDRY, SORRY, I'M KIND OF SICK. . THERE ARE TYPICAL, HERE ARE THE TYPICAL FLOOR PLANS OF THE PROJECT AS CONDITIONED. UM, OKAY. HERE YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED ROOF PLAN. THE NEW 3,345 [01:30:01] SQUARE FOOT ADDITION IS SET BACK 15 FEET FROM THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE ALONG EAST FIRST STREET AND 10 FEET FROM THE SIDE PROPERTY LINE ALONG PINE AVENUE. THE COMMUNITY GARDEN WILL REMAIN OPEN TO THE AIR AND ONLY REQUIRED CIRCULATION ERRORS ARE ENCLOSED. THE ROOF WILL ALSO FEATURE MULTIPLE NEW ROOF MOUNTED AC UNITS, WHICH ARE CURRENTLY PROPOSED TO BE SCREENED WITH PERFORATED PANELS. IN THE SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE EAST ELEVATION. THE PROPOSED ADDITION WILL STAND AT A HIGH OF 96 FEET, WHILE THE EXISTING CLOCK TOWER REACHES A HEIGHT OF 115 FEET. ALL WINDOWS WERE PRE PRESERVED AND FIXED IN PLACE FOR SAFETY CONCERNS. REGARDING THE LARGE SIZE WINDOWS. HERE YOU CAN SEE THE WEST ELEVATION. THE WINDOWS HIGHLIGHTED IN BOLD AND BLACK INDICATE NEW WINDOWS REPLACING THOSE THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY REMOVED AND SEALED UP. THE NEW WINDOWS WILL MATCH THE ORIGINAL HUNG WINDOWS AND WILL BE MADE OF WOOD. HERE IS THE NORTH AND SOUTH ELEVATION. YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING FIRE ESCAPES THAT WILL BE RESTORED AND LADDERS REMOVED. FOR SAFETY, THE PROPOSED ROOFTOP ADDITION WILL FEATURE COMPLEMENTARY MATERIALS THAT HARMONIZE WITH THE EXISTING LANDMARK BUILDING TO MAINTAIN THE FOCUS ON THE ORIGINAL ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES. THE DESIGN HAS BEEN KEPT MORE SIMPLISTIC. THE ADDITION WILL INCLUDE SMOOTH FIND STUCCO FINISH ON ALL ACCESSORY ROOMS SUCH AS HALLWAYS, ELEVATOR, SHAFT, AND STAIRWAY. THE TRELLIS WILL BE CONSTRUCTED WITH NON COMPOSTABLE RAW IRON. WHILE THE ROOF WILL BE FINISHED WITH THE METAL ROOFING, THE ROOF MOUNTED AC UNITS WILL BE SCREENED WITH PERFORATED PANELS. HERE IS THE FULL PROJECT RENDERINGS LOOKING FROM THE WEST ELEVATION. SINCE THIS IS A LANDMARK BUILDING, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS WAS RE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE CULTURAL HERITAGE COMMISSION IN OCTOBER, 2025. THE PROPOSED PROJECT HAS BEEN FOUND TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH IN CHAPTER 2.63 OF THE LONG BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE AND THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR REHABILITATION RESTORATION WORK THAT WILL BE COMPLETED AS A PART OF THIS PROJECT INCLUDES FACADE RESTORATION, INCLUDING CLEANING, REPAINTING, AND LIKE FOR LIKE MASONRY REPAIRS, FULL RE RECOMMISSIONING OF THE CLOCK TOWER AND RESTORATION OF THE VARSITY SHOP SIGN AND WINDOW REHABILITATION POSITIVE FINDINGS CAN BE MADE FOR THIS PROJECT. THE DESIGN IS HARMONIZED AND CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT LANDMARK. CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY COMPLIES WITH PD 30 DESIGN GUIDELINES AND WILL NOT REMOVE MATURE STREET TREES. THE PROJECT WILL PROVIDE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS AS REQUIRED BY THE PUBLIC WORKS CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AND EX IS EXEMPT FROM TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT REQUIREMENTS. THE PROJECT IS ALSO NOT LOCATED WITHIN THE COASTAL ZONE AND IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S EDB PROGRAM. UM, WAIVERS ARE REQUESTED FOR RESIDENTIAL UNIT SIZE, LACK OF PRIVATE OPEN SPACE, COMMON OUTDOOR OPEN SPACE, AND PRIVATE STORAGE. THE PROPOSED PROJECT, ALSO COMPLIANCE WITH THE SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR ADAPTIVE VIEWS FOUND IN SECTION 21.45 POINT 500. OVERALL, THE PROPOSED PROJECT FORWARDS THE CITY'S GOALS OF EXPANDING HOUSING SUPPLY, REDUCING CARBON FOOTPRINT THROUGH BUILDINGS, REUSE AND PROMOTING, PROMOTING INVESTMENT AND ECONOMIC VITALITY WHILE MINIMIZING IMPACTS TO THE ENVIRONMENT. CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL INCLUDE RESTORATION OF THE PROPOSED ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS, PROVIDING THE PROPOSED AFFORDABLE UNITS THROUGHOUT AND INSTALLATION OF DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT FOR RESIDENTIAL ACCESS TO THE COMMUNITY LOUNGE, MAIL ROOM, TRASH ROOMS ON EACH FLOOR. NEXT, ENSURING THE BUILDING AND ALL TRASH AREAS ARE WELL KEPT AT ALL TIMES WITH CONTACT INFORMATION PRESENT FOR RESIDENTS. AND LASTLY, PROVIDING THE PROPOSED SHARED LAUNDRY FACILITIES, BIKE AND SCOOTER PARKING AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE LONG BEACH CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, SUCH AS ZERO CARBON, ELECTRICITY, COMPLIANCE, AND RECYCLABLE AND COMPO COMPOSTING ACCOMMODATIONS. THE PROJECT IS EXEMPT FOR QUA PURSUANT TO CLASS 32 HISTORICAL RESOURCES, RESTORATION AND REHABILITATION AND CLASS 32 INFIELD DEVELOPMENT FOR CLASS 31. THE PROJECT WAS FOUND TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR REHABILITATION THROUGH THE APPROVED CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS AND NO IMPACTS WERE FOUND THROUGH THE COMPLETION OF THE INFILL DEVELOPMENT EVALUATION. THE LONG BEACH CLIMATE ACTION PLAN CHECKLIST WAS ALSO COMPLETED AS A PART OF THE CLASS 32 EXEMPTION, AND THE PROJECT WAS FOUND TO BE CONSISTENT. NOTICING WAS COMPLETED AND COMPLIANCE WITH CHAPTER 21 POINT 21 OF THE ZONING REGULATIONS AND ONE PUBLIC COMMENT IN SUPPORT HAS BEEN RECEIVED. THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO ADOPT THE CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION UNDER CQA [01:35:01] PURSUANT TO CLASS 31 AND CLASS 32, AND TO APPROVE THE SITE PLAN, REVIEW REQUEST ALONG WITH THE PROPOSED FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR THE ADAPTER REUSE OF AN EXISTING SIX STORY OFFICE BUILDING AND TO 69 RESIDENTIAL UNIT RESIDENTIAL UNITS, INCLUDING 11% VERY LOW INCOME AND 9% MODERATE INCOME. THIS PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES THE ROOFTOP, UM, COMMUNITY GARDEN ACCESSORY CIRCULATION, AR AREAS, MINOR EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS AND REHABILITATION WORK, UM, LOCATED AT ONE 15 PINE AVENUE WITHIN THE PD 30 ZONING DISTRICT. UH, THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION STAFF IN THE APPLICANT. CAMERON CROCKETT AND JACK LOPEZ ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER. QUESTION COMMISSIONER, TO ME THIS IS ONE OF THOSE, UH, PERFECT ADAPTIVE REUSE STORIES. IT'S PRESERVING HISTORIC ASSET IN A TRANSIT RICH AREA, IN AN UNDERPERFORMING OFFICE BUILDING THAT'LL NEVER BE A OFFICE BUILDING AGAIN. UM, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF WAIVERS AND CONCESSIONS THAT ARE BEING ASKED. SO I JUST WANT STAFF TO JUST QUICKLY, UM, WALK US THROUGH WHY THE UNIT SIZE AND THE OPEN SPACE AND THOSE THINGS THAT RESIDENTS TEND TO, UM, BRING UP, UM, OR STORAGE REQUIREMENTS CAN'T BE MET IN A BUILDING SUCH AS THIS. OKAY. UM, YES, SO THERE'S MANY REASONS. UM, JUST PARTICULARLY BECAUSE THIS IS A LANDMARK BUILDING, UM, IT'S HARDER TO PROPOSE EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS TO, UM, THE LANDMARK BUILDING. AND THAT WOULD PREVENT ANY PRIVATE OPEN SPACE SUCH AS, UM, THE FIRE ESCAPEES TO BE USED AS PRIVATE OPEN SPACE. ALSO, SAFETY CONCERNS. UM, THE, UM, LACK OF SPACE IN THE BASEMENT AREA AND THE LOBBY AREAS PROHIBITS THE APPLICANT FROM PROVIDING STORAGE. WE'VE TRIED OUR BEST TO ASK FOR ALL OF THESE ITEMS, BUT ULTIMATELY IT JUST, UM, WASN'T FEASIBLE IN THE PROJECT'S DEVELOPMENT. AND COMMISSIONER THE APPLICANT IS ENTITLED TO RELIEF. SO I JUST WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR. THERE PROBABLY IS SOME SCENARIO WHERE PHYSICALLY YOU COULD HAVE FEWER UNITS AND CONVERT AREAS TO STORAGE, OR YOU COULD ADD ENORMOUS EXPENSE TO THE PROJECT BY NOT USING THE EXISTING ELEVATOR SHAFT AND, UM, CREATING ENTIRELY NEW ELEVATOR SHAFT. UM, BUT OUR ANALYSIS DOESN'T EVEN GO THERE BECAUSE THROUGH THE PROVISION OF THE AFFORDABLE UNITS AND THE FACT THAT IT'S AN ADAPTIVE REUSE PROJECT, THERE'RE ENTITLED TO CERTAIN RELIEF. AND THAT'S SORT OF THE END OF, UM, THE CITY ANALYSIS. BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION, YOU KNOW, CORRECTLY. 'CAUSE I'M SURE IF MONEY WERE NO OBJECT, THAT ALL OF THESE ISSUES ARE SOLVABLE, BUT, UM, MONEY IS AN OBJECT. AND THEN THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING AS THEY GOT INTO IT. THIS IS LIKE A CRAZY OLD BUILDING THAT HAS A NUMBER OF CONSTRUCTABILITY ISSUES AND, UM, SUBFLOOR MADE OUT OF WOOD. AND SO, UH, WE'VE WORKED ON THE BUILDING AND SAFETY SIDE WITH THIS APPLICANT A LOT TO SORT OF MAKE SURE WE ARRIVE AT A PROJECT THAT'S EVEN CONSTRUCTABLE BECAUSE WE WANT THIS BUILDING TO HAVE ANOTHER LIFE. UM, BUT WE ALSO WANT IT TO BE SAFE AND WE WANT IT TO BE SOMETHING THE CONSTRUCTION TEAM CAN EXECUTE. SO WE'RE JUST, WE'RE TRYING TO FIND ALL OF THAT BALANCE AND THE SPACE LIMITATIONS TOO. RISK HAVING FEWER UNITS, I'M ASSUMING. YEAH. ANYTHING THAT GOT ADDED ONTO THIS PROJECT, THE ONLY WAY TO PROVIDE THAT WOULD BE TO ELIMINATE SOME OF THE SPACE CURRENTLY PROGRAMMED FOR UNITS. AND WE CAN REASONABLY ASSUME THAT SOME OF THE WAIVERS ARE ALLOWING THEM TO HAVE EVEN MORE AFFORDABLE UNITS THAN OTHERWISE WE'D BE ABLE TO HAVE. RIGHT. BECAUSE THE IS A PERCENTAGE, IF, IF WE HAD FEWER UNITS, EVEN IF THE PERCENTAGES REMAINED THE SAME, THERE WOULD BE BOTH FEWER TOTAL UNITS AND FEWER AFFORDABLE UNITS. OKAY, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER CLEMSON, THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE ACCESS TO THE LAUNDRY ROOM AND THE BIKE STORAGE. DO YOU WANT ME TO FIELD THAT? YEAH, MR. CAMERON CROCKETT, COME ON DOWN. UH, CAMERON CROCKETT REPRESENTING THE OWNERSHIP, UM, UH, ULTRA ARCHITECTURAL STUDIO, LOCAL LONG BEACH, UH, ARCHITECTURE FIRM FOR 20 SOMETHING YEARS HERE. SO, UH, TO YOUR QUESTION, UH, THERE'S THE EXISTING HALLWAY THAT GOES DOWN TO A, A LOWER, UH, [01:40:01] UTILITY ROOM. WE'RE USING THAT HALLWAY, WHICH IS NEXT TO AN EDISON VAULT TO GET TO THE LOWER, UH, SCOOTER AND, AND, UH, UH, LAUNDRY AREAS. IS IT, UH, ELEVATOR ACCESS OR IS IT STAIRS ONLY? IT'S NOT, BUT WE'RE OFFERING DUPLICATE, UH, UH, ALL, ALL UNITS HAVE, MOST OF THE 90% OF THE UNITS HAVE IN, UH, IN UNIT LAUNDRY AND, AND THEIR OWN BICYCLE PARKING. SO THIS IS KIND OF A SECONDARY FEATURE, AND WE'RE MAKING, UH, A DA ACCESSIBILITY STANDARDS AND THE OTHER UNITS FOR THEM. GREAT. THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING THE APPLICANT GONNA SPEAK AT THIS POINT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO AHEAD? CAN I, YEAH, LET'S MAKE THAT TRANSITION . OKAY. YEAH. JUST A HANDOFF MIGHT AS WELL. YEAH. SO, UH, THIS IS LIKE A GREAT PROJECT AND I HOPE IT'S A PRECEDENT SETTING PROJECT FOR A LOT OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT WE HAVE IN LONG BEACH THAT COULD ALSO BENEFIT FROM THE ADAPTIVE REUSE PART. THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF THIS, THE BUILDING TECHNOLOGY PART IS THE MOST DIFFICULT THING. WE, WE HAVE A CONSTRUCTABILITY ISSUE IN THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT IN A CONSTRUCTION TYPE THAT DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE, AND IT'S IN A SIX STORY BUILDING THAT'S ESSENTIALLY MADE OUTTA WOOD. SO, UH, THAT WAS TOUGH. SO WE'VE, WE'VE DONE THE WORK TO CREATE A CODE MODIFICATION AND THE CITY'S AGREED TO THAT, THAT ALLOWS US TO USE MITIGATIONS. WE'RE ADDING SOME BRACE FRAMES AND OTHER STRUCTURAL MEMBERS TO BRING IT UP TO, UH, A HYBRID VERSION OF WHAT OUR STANDARDS WOULD BE WITHOUT COMPROMISING THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THE BUILDING. UM, THE ONE THING THAT'S KIND OF LOST IN THE PRESENTATION IS, IS ONE OF THE SEXIEST PARTS OF THIS THING IS, IS BEING ON THE ROOF WITH THE, THE CLOCK TOWER AND THE FOREGROUND LOOKING DOWN TOWARDS THE, THE OCEAN. IT, IT'S, IT'S AMAZING. AND SO IT'S ALWAYS BEEN OUR INTENTION TO, TO USE THAT AS A, AS A COMMON SPACE FOR THE RESIDENTS, UH, AND, AND A REAL ASSET TO THE CITY. I, THE, THE CLOCK TOWER WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT ON THE BUILDING WHEN IT WAS A FOUR STORY BUILDING, AND IT WAS RELOCATED TO THE BUILDING WHEN IT BECAME A SIX STORY BUILDING. UM, AND IT, IT'S PRETTY SPECIAL. UH, IT'S, IT'S GOT, UH, ORIGINAL WORKSMANSHIP FROM THE 19 HUNDREDS, AND IT'S A FUNCTIONAL CLOCK. SO BEING UP NEAR THAT CLOCK IN AN OUTDOOR ENVIRONMENT ON THE, ON THE DECK IS, IS EXCITING. UH, WE COULDN'T MAKE THAT AN ENCLOSED SPACE, IN PART BECAUSE WE'D BE IN THE SEVENTH FLOOR. WE'VE ALREADY VIOLATED ALL THE BUILDING LIMITATIONS THAT WE COULD DO. SO THE BEST WE COULD DO IS AN OUTDOOR SEMI COVERED SPACE. AND THE CITY WAS GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO WORK WITH THIS ON THAT. UH, OUR DENSITY IS NOT THAT HIGH. WE'RE ONLY AROUND, UH, YOU KNOW, 11, 12 UNITS PER FLOOR. UM, AND, AND WE'RE SURGICALLY DOING THIS WITHOUT, UH, COMPROMISING LONG-TERM TENANTS AND LAW OPERA AND, AND RIAA. WE, WE, WE'VE GONE TO GREAT LENGTHS STRUCTURALLY TO AVOID INTERRUPTION IN, IN THEIR BUSINESSES AS MU AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. UM, AND, AND THIS IS, THIS IS KIND OF LIKE, THIS IS THE PERFECT WAY TO REBUILD PARTS OF LONG BEACH, RIGHT? LIKE WE KEEP WHAT WORKS THAT THE OLD BUILDINGS, THE OLD RESTAURANTS THAT, THAT ARE VIBRANT AND ACTIVE, AND THEN WE CONVERT THESE UNDERUTILIZED OFFICE SPACES AND INTO SOMETHING THAT BRINGS YOUNG VIBRANCY TO, TO THE CITY AND, UH, AND A REAL ASSET. SO THE, THE BUILDING ALSO HAS, AT THE FIRST LEVEL, WE'RE TAKING ONE OF THE RETAIL SPACES TO HAVE A COMMUNITY LOUNGE. UM, AND, AND EACH ONE OF THE SPACES, UH, WILL STILL UTILIZE THE EXISTING HISTORIC WINDOWS AND BRICK WALLS, UH, AS OFTEN AS WE CAN SHOW THEM OFF. UH, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE GREAT LITTLE UNITS. UM, I THINK IT'S A REAL ASSET TO THE CITY. UH, ON THAT TOPIC, WHAT, UM, WHAT CONSIDERATIONS OR, OR DID YOU MAKE IN TERMS OF THE BUFFERING BETWEEN THAT HYBRID MODEL OF THE COMMERCIAL SPACE THAT YOU FORTUNATELY IS ACTIVE? YEAH. UH, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, EVENINGS AND, AND WEEKENDS IN TERMS OF FOR THE RESIDENTIAL USE. SO, SO WE'RE MAINTAINING AN ST 51, UH, NOISE SEPARATION BETWEEN ALL THE, UH, COMMERCIAL SPACES DOWN BELOW AND OUR SPACES ABOVE, WHICH INCLUDES, UH, A A TWO INCH CONCRETE TOPPING SLAB OVER THE WOOD STRUCTURE AND A, AND A ISOLATION AT THE BOTTOM LEVEL. SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MITIGATE THAT. UH, THANK YOU. I'M GOOD. COMMERCIAL CLOSET. I WANT TO JUST TALK ABOUT EXCITED I AM ABOUT THIS PROJECT, UH, NOT ONLY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GROWING UP IN LONG BEACH. THIS IS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING. IT'S SUCH A HISTORIC BUILDING. UM, I ALSO KNOW HOW DIFFICULT OFFICE CONVERSIONS ARE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, I THINK YOU LOOK AT A BUILDING, YOU THINK IT'S A BUILDING. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO INTO, UM, AND SO I WANNA RECOGNIZE THAT FIRST OFF. AND THEN HERE YOU CAN TALK ABOUT A, UH, SIX STORY BUILDING THAT'S COMPLETELY BUILT OF WOOD, UH, IS ALSO VERY, VERY, UH, STRANGE. BUT, UM, THIS IS A VERY EXCITING PROJECT. UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A, A, A VERY, UM, LIKE A CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, A CRITICAL, UH, INTERSECTION, [01:45:01] YOU KNOW, PINE AND FIRST RIGHT THERE. UM, SO I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND I JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, IT'S ACTUALLY FUNNY. ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED FROM THE PRESENTATION THAT I GOT REALLY EXCITED ABOUT WAS ADDING IN THE REMOVED WINDOWS. I DON'T KNOW WHY. I WAS JUST LIKE, YEAH, YOU WALK AROUND THE, YOU WALK AROUND THE CITY AND YOU SEE LIKE WHERE THEY BOARDED, LIKE BRICKED UP ALL THESE OLD WINDOWS, AND YOU'RE LIKE, WHY DID THEY DO THAT ? SO I'M REALLY, I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THE, UH, THOSE GET RESTORED. GOOD. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELL, YOU KNOW, I MIGHT ALSO POINT OUT PARKING, WHICH I KNOW SOMETIMES BECOMES A CONCERN. THE, THE GREAT ASSET TO THIS SITE ALSO IS THAT WE'RE RIGHT NEXT TO PUBLIC PARKING AND ACROSS THE STREET FROM EVEN MORE. SO THAT'S, UH, A REAL USE OF OUR, OUR PARKING DOWNTOWN, WHICH IS ALSO, I THINK THAT'S ALSO A HISTORIC LANDMARK, THAT PARKING STRUCTURES. OH, PERFECT. I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT WAS ANOTHER FUNNY THING OF HISTORICALLY PROTECTED PARKING STRUCTURE, BUT, YOU KNOW, . ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OKAY. ANY, WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO VIRTUAL, ANY VIRTUAL COMMENTS? IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FEATURE. NOW, IF DIALING IN TELEPHONICALLY, PRESS STAR NINE NOW. SEE NONE. THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM. OKAY, THANK YOU. WE'LL TURN IT BACK, COMMISSIONERS. ANY FINAL DISCUSSION? ANY COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? SEE NONE. OKAY. ALRIGHT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL FOR THE VOTE. MOTION IS CARRIED. PERFECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'LL TRY AND GET, UH, COMMISSIONER AMES TO COME BACK HERE. OKAY. I, UH, CAN YOU PLEASE READ THE NEXT ITEM I, ITEM [5. 26-54620 Recommendation to accept Categorical Exemption CE-25-131, finding the proposed project exempt from the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) pursuant to Section 15303 (New Construction or Conversion of Small Structures) of the CEQA Guidelines; and Approve a Conditional Use Permit (CUP25-016), and adopt the proposed findings and conditions of approval related thereto, for a new building rooftop-mounted wireless telecommunications facility for Verizon Wireless, including the installation of 20 new panel antennas, 12 remote radio units (RRUs), one (1) four-foot-diameter microwave dish antenna, and related ancillary equipment, on a 13-story hotel building located at 2640 Lakewood Boulevard in the Willow Street Center (PD-27) Planned Development District. (District 4)       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] FIVE, RECOMMENDATION TO ACCEPT CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION CE DASH 25 DASH 1 31, FINDING THE PROPOSED PROJECT EXEMPT FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT PURSUANT TO SECTION 1 5 3 0 3 OF THE CQA GUIDELINES AND APPROVE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND ADOPT THE PROPOSED FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL RELATED THERETO FOR A NEW BUILDING. ROOFTOP MOUNTED WIRELESS COMMUNICATIONS FACILITY FOR VERIZON WIRELESS, INCLUDING THE INSTALLATION OF 20 NEW PANEL ANTENNAS, 12 REMOTE RADIO UNITS, ONE INSTALLATION OF 20 NEW PA PARDON, ONE FOUR FOOT DIAMETER MICROWAVE DISH ANTENNA AND RELATED ANCILLARY EQUIPMENT ON A 13 STORY HOTEL BUILDING LOCATED AT 2 6 4 0 LAKEWOOD BOULEVARD IN THE WILLOW STREET CENTER, PLANT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, DISTRICT FOUR. CAN I GET A MAKE MOTION AND A SECOND ON THIS ITEM? THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER LOPEZ. COMMISSIONER TEMPLE. WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO STAFF FOR PRESENTATION. YES, THANK YOU. UH, PROJECT PLANNER PABLO CASTILLO WILL PROVIDE THIS PRESENTATION. THANK YOU ALLISON. UH, GOOD EVENING, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. UH, THIS REQUEST IS FOR A CONDITIONING USE PERMIT FOR A NEW ROOFTOP MOUNTED WIRELESS, UH, TELECOMS FACILITY LOCATED AT 26 40 LAKEWOOD BOULEVARD. UM, THE PROJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE WILLOW STREET CENTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AND IS DESIGNATED AS A, UM, REGIONAL SERVING FACILITY UNDER THE GENERAL PLAN PLACE TYPE. THE SITE IS FIVE POINT 22 ACRES AND IS DEVELOPED WITH AN EXISTING 13 STORY HOTEL TOWER. SURROUNDING LAND USES ARE PRIMARILY INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL AND, UH, RESIDENTIAL USES LOCATED FURTHER SOUTH ACROSS WILLOW STREET. THE INTERSTATE 4 0 5 FREEWAY DIRECTLY ABUTS THE SUBJECT SITE ALONG THE NORTHERN PARCEL LINE WITH, UH, THE LONG BEACH AIRPORT NORTH BEYOND THE FREEWAY. THE SITE IS, UH, AS I MENTIONED, DEVELOPED WITH AN EXISTING 13 STORY HOTEL, UH, BUILDING. THIS WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1968 FOR THE HOLIDAY INN HOTEL CHAIN. THE BUILDING IS A REINFORCED CONCRETE AND GLASS STRUCTURE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE 1960S, UH, MODERNIST COMMERCIAL ARCHITECTURE AND IS CAPPED WITH A, UH, PROJECTING ROOF LINE WITH A PENTHOUSE SCREENED FROM VIEW. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A NEW ROOFTOP, UH, WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATIONS FACILITY ON THE EXISTING, UH, HOTEL TO IMPROVE VERIZON NETWORK [01:50:01] COVERAGE IN THE AREA. THE PROJECT INCLUDES 20 PANEL, UH, ANTENNA, 12 REMOTE RADIO UNITS, ONE MICROWAVE DISH, AND ASSOCIATED EQUIPMENT ALL LOCATED ON THE ROOFTOP. THE EQUIPMENT WOULD EXTEND 25 FEET ABOVE THE BUILDING ROOF HEIGHT. UH, THE FACILITY WILL ALSO REMAIN UNSCREEN AS THE INTRODUCTION OF SCREENING STRUCTURES WOULD ADD UNNECESSARY BULK AND MASS TO THE ROOF LINE AND COULD MORE VISUALLY AND WOULD BE MORE VISUALLY INTRUSIVE THAN THE EQUIPMENT ITSELF. UM, STAFF ANALYZED MULTIPLE DESIGN OPTIONS AND DETERMINED THAT IN THIS CASE AN UNSCREENED PROJECT REPRESENTS THE LEAST VISUALLY INTRUSIVE DESIGN. THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE EXISTING CONDITION ON THE LEFT AND THE PROPOSED SIMULATION ON THE RIGHT FROM THE NORTHEAST DUE TO THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING AND PLACEMENT OF EQUIPMENT TOWARDS THE INTERIOR OF THE ROOF. VISIBILITY FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY IS LIMITED. SIMILARLY, FROM THE NORTHWEST, THE PROPOSED EQUIPMENT REMAINS MINIMALLY VISIBLE. THE HEIGHT OF, UH, THE HEIGHT AND MASS OF THE BUILDING HELPS SCREEN THE EQUIPMENT FOR MOST, UH, VANTAGE POINTS FROM THE SOUTHWEST, INCLUDING VIEWS FROM THE I 4 0 5 FREEWAY. THE EQUIPMENT IS ALSO MINIMALLY VISIBLE. OVERALL, THE EQUIPMENT HAS LIMITED VISUAL IMPACT DUE TO THE PLACEMENT AND HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING. THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN, WHICH SUPPORTS TELECOMMUNICATION INFRASTRUCTURE AS PART OF A MODERN AND CONNECTED CITY. THE FACILITY WILL COMPLY WITH ALL FCC AND A NSI STANDARDS. IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY COMPATIBILITY. UH, STAFF DETERMINED THAT THE UNSCREENED DESIGN AS MENTIONED, IS THE LEAST VISUALLY INTRUSIVE OPTION AS ADDING SCREENING COULD BE MORE VISUALLY INTRUSIVE THAN THE EQUIPMENT ITSELF. CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL INCLUDE CONDITIONS ON SECTOR LIMITS, SETBACKS FROM ROOF EDGES, AND COMPLIANCE WITH RF UH, SAFETY STANDARDS. ADDITIONALLY, STANDARD WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATION CONDITIONS WILL ALSO APPLY. THE PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM SQA UNDER SECTION 15 3 0 3, CLASS THREE, WHICH APPLIES TO SMALL STRUCTURES, NO EXCEPTIONS TO THE EXEMPTION APPLY. PUBLIC NOTICING WAS DISTRIBUTED ON MAR ON MARCH 3RD, 2026 IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER 2121 OF THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS. NO COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED. STAFF RECOMMENDS, UM, THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACCEPT CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION, C 25 1 31 AND APPROVE CONDITION, USE PERMIT, UM, AND ADOPT THE PROPOSED FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PRESENT IN THE CHAMBERS THIS EVENING AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. UH, THIS CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM STAFF COMMISSIONER? I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU WERE EVER CONSIDERED ANY OF THOSE LIKE FA TREE POLLS THAT THEY, THEY HIDE 'EM WITH? SOME ARE GOOD, SOME ARE NOT. , MOST ARE NOT. SO, UM, WE DO, YOU KNOW, CONSIDER A GOOD ONE SCREENING HERE IN THE CITY. I THINK WE HAVE THE EXPERIENCE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, SEEING BOTH THE SCREENED AND NOT SCREENED. A VICTORY IS A FAKE TREE AND THERE MAY BE SOME THAT ARE LESS BAD, BUT BASED ON OUR REVIEW, BOTH HERE IN THE CITY AND AROUND THE SOUTHLAND, WHAT'S LEAST OBTRUSIVE OFTENTIMES IS, UM, IS WHAT IT IS. IT'S EQUIPMENT THAT LOOKS LIKE EQUIPMENT. SO I KNOW IT'S A JUDGMENT CALL, IT'S AESTHETICS. BUT IN TERMS OF, WE PROCESS A LOT OF THESE UNDER THE CODE SURGEON. ONES COME TO THIS COMMISSION, BUT MOST OF 'EM DON'T. UM, AND THE BEST THING TO DO IS MAKE EQUIPMENT LOOK LIKE EQUIPMENT. IF YOU CAN HIDE IT BEHIND A PARAPET OR SOMETHING, THAT'S GREAT, BUT THE FAKE TREES, UM, STAND OUT QUITE DRAMATICALLY TURNED INTO A REDWOOD. UH, I, I WILL SAY THAT JUST ON THIS ITEM, I WAS JUST SURPRISED I DRIVE BY THAT ALL THE TIME AND I NEVER REALIZED THAT THERE WASN'T ONE ALREADY ON THERE AT THAT TOWER. 'CAUSE IT'S LIKE THE HIGHEST BUILDING IN THAT AREA OUTSIDE OF THE, THE OTHER, UM, COMMERCIAL STOPS. ANY COMMERCIAL CLOSING? W WAS THERE ANY, UH, CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO, UH, PUSHING THE EQUIPMENT BACK FURTHER THAT COULD REDUCE VISIBILITY? UH, THERE WAS, AND WE WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT, UH, TO MAKE IT, UH, THE EQUIPMENT AS FAR BACK AS FEASIBLE, [01:55:01] UH, POSSIBLE AND PUSHING IT BACK FURTHER WOULD HAVE, DO YOU KNOW WHAT EFFECT THAT WOULD HAVE? UH, JUST TO ADD TO THAT, UH, THE FURTHER BACK YOU GO, THE HIGHER YOU WOULD NEED TO GO AS WELL, WHICH WOULD CAUSE VISUAL IMPACTS AS WELL. OKAY. WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION TO CONSOLIDATING, 'CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S FOUR UNITS RIGHT NOW. UH, WOULD, WOULD, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO DO FEWER THAN THAT? UM, PROBABLY NOT TO MEET THEIR COVERAGE OBJECTIVES. IT'S IN A, IT'S IN A LOCATION THAT'S HIGH ENOUGH TO WHERE VISUAL, VISUALLY IT WOULDN'T BE AS PROBLEMATIC. UM, AND AGAIN, IF YOU REQUEST A MORE CENTRALIZED STRUCTURE, YOU DO RUN THE RISK OF HAVING IT BE HIGHER AND THEN IT'LL ACTUALLY, UM, GRAB YOUR ATTENTION. OKAY. THANK YOU. SINCE THE APPLICANT IS HERE, DID, DID YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING? YOU'RE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, BUT NO. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, SEEING NONE IN THE GALLEY. ANY VIRTUAL COMMENTS? IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FEATURE. NOW. IF DIALING IN TELEPHONICALLY, PRESS STAR NINE NOW. SEEING NONE, THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM. THANK YOU. COMMISSION'S LAST OPPORTUNITY. SEEING NONE. OKAY, I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL FOR THE QUESTION. CHI CASTILLO CALL FOR THE VOTE, CORRECT? MM-HMM . MOTION IS CARRIED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW THE NEXT ITEM, LEMME MAKE SURE HERE I GOT SOME, UH, [PUBLIC COMMENT Opportunity to address the Planning Commission on non-agenda items. Each speaker is limited to three minutes to make their comments unless extended by the Chair.] PUBLIC COMMENT. ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC QUESTION TO SPEAK ON ANY NON-AG ITEMS, SEEING NONE, ANY VIRTUAL COMMENTS, IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, SPEAK ON A NON AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FEATURE. NOW, IF DIALING IN TELEPHONICALLY, PLEASE PRESS STAR NINE NOW. SEE NONE. THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR SECOND. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, [ANNOUNCEMENTS] ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? SEEING NONE. IF THERE [ADJOURNMENT] ARE NO OBJECTIONS, THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 6:51 PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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