Apr 02, 2026 Utilities Commission

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GOOD MORNING

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THURSDAY, APRIL 2ND.

UH, THE MEETING FOR THE PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION IS NOW CALLED THE ORDER.

UH, DENNIS SANTOS, WOULD YOU PLEASE LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE? THANK YOU, DINA.

MAY WE PLEASE HAVE

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SECRETARY PARKIN.

COMMISSIONER MCGUIRE HERE.

AND COMMISSIONER AUSTIN HERE.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A QUORUM.

THANK YOU.

UH, CONSENT CALENDARS ITEMS

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UH, MAY I PLEASE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT CALENDAR? THANK YOU.

ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? SEEING NONE.

THANK YOU.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

MOVING ON, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER

[4. 26-54746 Recommendation to receive and file Bay-Delta Project Update.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

UH, IN ORDER TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION, MAY I PLEASE HAVE A MOTION? I HAVE MOTION TO APPROVE.

THANK YOU.

SECOND, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND WE HAVE A SPECIAL VISITOR TODAY, MAUREEN MARTIN, MANAGER OF BAY DELTA SCIENCE AND REGULATORY STRATEGY WITH METROPOLITAN WATER DISTRICT.

GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING TO MAUREEN.

I, I ASKED MAUREEN.

NO, IT'S FINE.

I ASKED MAUREEN.

I WAS GONNA INTERJECT.

UM, THERE'S TWO MAJOR SOURCES OF SUPPLY FOR METROPOLITAN THAT IT, UH, DEALS WITH.

AND I KNOW THAT COLORADO GETS A LOT OF NOTICE, BUT HISTORICALLY, METROPOLITAN'S CONCERNS IN DEALINGS WITH THE STATE AND THE DELTA IS ONE OF THE CRITICAL, CRITICAL ASPECTS OF THE ORGANIZATION AND ONE OF THE CRITICAL EFFORTS FOR THE BENEFITS OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.

SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING OUR WAY WITH YOU, THE BOARD, TO GO THROUGH A THREE STEP PROCESS TO BRING YOU UP TO DATE ON THESE VARIOUS ISSUES IN THE DELTA AND METROPOLITANS CRITICAL LONG-TERM STRATEGIES FOR IT.

THIS KIND OF CAPS THAT ENTIRE SEQUENCE OFF WITH THE THIRD PRESENTATION.

I'M GONNA TURN IT BACK OVER TO MAUREEN TO INTRODUCE HERSELF, AND THEN HOPEFULLY YOU CAN TAKE IN AND, AND THIS IS ALSO MEANT TO BE A DIALOGUE.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, BY ALL MEANS, UH, FOLLOW UP WITH MAUREEN.

MAUREEN, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, GOOD MORNING.

UH, I AM DR.

MAUREEN MARTIN, AND AS MENTIONED, I AM MANAGER OF BAY DELTA SCIENCE AND REGULATORY STRATEGY.

UH, THIS MONTH MARKS MY SECOND YEAR AT METROPOLITAN, BUT PRIOR TO COMING TO METROPOLITAN, I SPENT, UM, 17 YEARS AT CONTRA COSTA WATER DISTRICT.

AND PRIOR TO THAT, I DID A LOT OF RESEARCH IN SAN FRANCISCO BAY, UM, AS PART OF MY DISSERTATION AND IN THE DELTA.

SO I'VE SPENT MY ENTIRE CAREER, UM, IN THE DELTA, AND I'M PLEASED TO BRING YOU, UM, AN UPDATE TODAY ON SOME OF THE RISKS FACING WATER SUPPLIES GOING THROUGH THE DELTA AND ONE PARTICULAR MITIGATION STRATEGY, UM, CALLED THE DELTA CONVEYANCE PROJECT.

SO, AS ANTO MENTIONED, UM, THE STATE WATER PROJECT, UH, SUPPLIES ABOUT 30% OF METROPOLITAN'S WATER SUPPLY PORTFOLIO WITH 20% COMING FROM THE COLORADO AND ABOUT THE OTHER 50% BEING, UH, LOCALLY DEVELOPED, INCLUDING WATER THAT'S IMPORTED FROM, UH, LA.

UM, BUT THE STATE WATER PROJECT IS PRETTY IMPORTANT.

UH, IT IS, UH, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE THE STATE WATER PROJECT DEPENDENT AREAS WHERE THEY CAN ONLY GET STATE WATER PROJECT SUPPLIES.

UM, AND OBVIOUSLY THAT CAME TO KIND OF A CRISIS IN THE LAST DROUGHT AND METROPOLITAN'S MAKING INVESTMENTS TO TRY TO IMPROVE THE FLEXIBILITY OF OUR SYSTEM TO AVOID WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST.

BUT THE STATE WATER PROJECT ALSO IS, UH, REALLY LOW IN TOTAL DISSOLVED SOLIDS.

AND SO THAT MEANS IT'S PRETTY GOOD WATER QUALITY RELATIVE TO THE COLORADO AND ALSO RELATIVE TO SOME OF THE GROUNDWATER THAT'S LOCALLY AVAILABLE IN THE BASIN.

AND SO, UM, BY HAVING THE STATE WATER PROJECT, IT ALLOWS FOR BLENDING WITH THOSE, BOTH OF THOSE SUPPLIES AS WELL AS FURTHER DEVELOPMENT OF OTHER LOCAL SUPPLIES WITHIN THE BASIN.

SO THE DELTA IS A SOMEWHAT RISKY, UH, ENVIRONMENT, AS YOU ALL KNOW.

UH, THE BAY DELTA IS A SERIES OF ISLANDS THAT ARE DEEPLY SUBSIDED, AND SO THEY'RE MAINTAINED BY A SERIES OF LEVEES.

AND SO THE LEVEES OVER TIME AND SUBSIDED MEANS THAT BASICALLY THE LAND HAS BEEN BECOME ERODED INSIDE ALL OF THESE ISLANDS THAT YOU SEE HERE.

AND SO WHEN THEY WERE FIRST RECLAIMED, YOU KNOW, BACK IN THE 18 HUNDREDS, IT'S LIKE DRAIN THE SWAMP AND EVERYBODY COME AND TAKE OVER THE LAND, GET RID OF THESE MARSHES.

UM, SO PEOPLE STARTED FARMING, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF YEARS AGO IN THE DELTA, AND IT'S GREAT SOIL, BUT IT'S PEA SOIL, SO THAT MEANS IT'S HIGHLY ORGANIC.

AND SO WHEN YOU RUN YOUR TRACTORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT OVER IT, THE SOIL TENDS TO OXIDIZE.

AND SO THAT MEANS IT KIND OF, NOT EVAPORATES, BUT IT GOES AWAY OVER TIME,

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AND SO BASICALLY, RIGHT NOW, THOSE ARE NOT, UH, ISLANDS, THEY'RE LIKE BOWLS.

SO THE LEVEES DON'T SERVE JUST TO, THEY'RE, THEY'RE MORE LIKE DAMS. AND SO, UH, THE DELTA IS A SEISMICALLY ACTIVE AREA.

AND SO IF THERE WERE A MAJOR, UH, SEISMIC EVENT, THAT'S EASY TO IMAGINE.

BUT ACTUALLY LOVEY FAILURES CAN HAPPEN FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.

UM, YOU KNOW, SUNNY DAY FAILURES, BURROWING RODENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT SEISMIC IS EASY TO IMAGINE.

AND SO WHAT COULD HAPPEN IF THE LEVEES FAILED IN THE DELTA IS, UM, SEA WATER FROM THE OCEAN.

SO HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE BAY HERE COULD COME INTO THE, THE DELTA AND, AND STAY IN THE DELTA.

SO, UM, DOWN HERE, UH, IN THIS LITTLE AREA HERE IN THE BLACK SQUARE, THAT'S A CLIFTON COURT FOUR BAY, AND THAT'S WHERE THE BANK'S PUMPING PLAN IS.

SO IN THE EVENT THAT THE LEVEES FAILED FOR DELTA GETS REALLY SALTY FOR ANY REASON THAT COULD INTERRUPT, UH, STATE WATER PROJECT SUPPLIES AND BANKS PUMPING.

UH, ONE OF THE OTHER KEY CONSTRAINTS ON EXPORTS THROUGH THE DELTA IS INCREASING REGULATORY RESTRICTIONS, PARTICULARLY RELATED TO ENDANGERED SPECIES.

SO I THINK IF YOU'VE BEEN FOLLOWING WATER SINCE AT LEAST 2008, WHEN THE BIOLOGICAL OPINIONS WERE LITIGATED, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY REMEMBERS JUDGE WANGER, UM, AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WERE HAPPENING, WHERE BASICALLY DURING THAT TIME, DURING 2008, 2009, ALL THE OPERATIONS WERE BEING DICTATED BY A JUDGE OLIVER RAINGER.

UM, AND SO EVEN SINCE THAT TIME, EVEN THOUGH IT'S BEEN, IT STILL HAS BEEN LITIGIOUS, UM, IT HAS BEEN INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT TO EXPORT WATER.

AND THESE SPECIES, UM, ARE IN PRESENT IN THE DELTA AND CONSTRAINTS HAPPEN NOT YEAR ROUND, BUT TYPICALLY FROM DECEMBER THROUGH JUNE.

AND SO THAT'LL BE IMPORTANT WHEN WE KIND OF THINK ABOUT, UH, CHANGES IN HYDROLOGY AND CLIMATE CHANGE THAT'LL FURTHER CONSTRAIN THE OPERATIONS, UH, IN THE DELTA.

SO AS WE MENTIONED, CLIMATE CHANGE IS ALSO HAPPENING.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE RED LINE REPRESENTS DWR UH, PREDICTIONS ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN 2070.

THE BLUE LINE REPRESENTS, UH, HISTORICAL MEASUREMENTS FROM 2020.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA BE LESS RUNOFF DURING THE SPRING DUE TO REDUCED SNOW PACK AND DRIER CONDITIONS.

SO MORE OF THE WATER SUPPLY IS SHOWING UP EARLIER IN THE SEASON AS RUNOFF AS RAIN RATHER THAN SNOW.

SO THAT MEANS THAT, UM, AND AS I MENTIONED, SO IT'S GONNA BE SHOWING UP EARLIER IN THE SEASON, LIKE DECEMBER THROUGH THAT JUNE PERIOD.

SO HISTORICALLY, IF RUNOFF STARTED HAPPENING, RIGHT, THE WATER YEAR KIND OF STARTS.

WE, WE MEASURED THE SNOW PACK IN APRIL.

IF YOU ALL WERE JUST, UH, LISTENING TO THE DEPRESSING NEWS ABOUT THE SNOW PACK IN THIS YEAR AS RECENTLY, UM, SO APRIL 1ST, IT'S BEEN KIND OF TRADITIONALLY LIKE WE KNOW HOW MUCH WATER THERE IS, HOW MUCH SNOW THERE IS UP ON THE MOUNTAINS, UM, AND NOW IT'S GONNA START MELTING.

WELL, NOW WE ALL KNOW AND CAN APPRECIATE, WELL IT STARTS MELTING A LOT EARLIER, RIGHT? AND SO, UM, SO THAT'S GONNA BE A REAL PROBLEM, UH, BECAUSE LIKE WE SAID, THE REGULATIONS RESTRICT EXPORT PUMPINGS FROM DECEMBER THROUGH JUNE.

SO WHEREAS BEFORE WE COULD START PICKING UP WATER, YOU KNOW, LOTS OF IT COMING INTO THE SYSTEM IN JUNE, NOW WE RUN THE RISK OF NOT BEING ABLE TO TAKE WHAT WATER THERE IS, EVEN IF THERE'S THE SAME AMOUNT JUST TO DO THE TIMING.

UM, SO WE, IMA THIS IS A PROJECTION FROM DWR IMAGINES THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION TO THE CHANGE IN HYDROLOGY, THERE IS ADDITIONAL SEA LEVEL RISE.

AND SO THAT ALSO MEANS THAT ADDITIONAL WATERS, THE PROJECTS ARE REQUIRED TO KEEP THE DELTA RELATIVELY FRESH FOR PURPOSES OF OTHER MUNICIPAL, UM, AND AGRICULTURAL USERS AS WELL AS WILDLIFE.

AND SO AS SEA LEVEL RISES, WE ANTICIPATE THAT MORE OF THE STATE WATER PROJECT, UH, YIELD WILL NEED TO GO TOWARDS THOSE, UH, TO KEEPING THE DELTA FRESH FOR THOSE PURPOSES.

AND THAT WILL MEAN THAT'S LESS, IS ALSO AVAILABLE FOR EXPORT.

SO OVERALL, THAT'S LIKE ABOUT A 22% DECREASE IN SUPPLIES THAT ARE ANTICIPATED DUE TO CLIMATE CHANGE.

SO ONE OF THE WAYS, BUT JUST ONE, NOT THE ONLY ONE, UH, MITIGATION FACTORS WE'RE CONSIDERING PROJECTS IS THE DELTA CONVEYANCE PROJECT.

SO, UH, IN 2024, DWR FINALIZED THE EASTERN ALIGNMENT, UM, AND, UH, THAT'S CALLED THE EASTERN BETHANY ALIGNMENT.

THE TUNNEL IS ABOUT 45 MILES, AND IT IS A 6,000 CFS TOTAL CAPACITY.

UM, AND JUST FOR YOUR REFERENCE, UH, EXISTING BANKS IN THE SOUTH DELTA IS ABOUT 10,000 CFS.

UM, AND SO THIS IS SMALLER THAN THE, UH, EXISTING STATE WATER PROJECT, AND IT'S MUCH SMALLER, IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER BACK IN THE DAY, LIKE, UM, BAY DELTA CONVEYANCE, UM, BDCP, UH, OR THE WATER FIX, RIGHT? SO BOTH OF THOSE ANTICIPATED BEING ABLE TO CREATE A FACILITY THAT WAS LARGE ENOUGH SO THAT

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HOWEVER, THIS TUNNEL IS SIZE SMALLER, AND SO IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT ALTHOUGH IT CAN BE HELPFUL AND FLEXIBLE, THAT IT WILL NOT BE SUFFICIENT AND WA TO PUMP ALL OF THE STATE WATER PROJECT SUPPLIES NEEDED.

AND WATER WILL CONTINUE TO NEED TO BE CONVEYED THROUGH DELTA EVEN IN THE, UM, EVENT THAT THIS PROJECT GETS BUILT.

SO BASED ON THE MODELING THAT WAS DONE FOR, UH, IN 2024, UH, THE PROJECT YIELD IS ABOUT 400,000 ACRE FEET.

AND THE LIFECYCLE, THE LONG-TERM AVERAGE IS ABOUT, UH, A THOUSAND DOLLARS IN ACRE FOOT.

AND THESE NUMBERS ARE CURRENTLY BEING UPDATED, AND SO WE'LL HAVE UPDATED ESTIMATES BOTH ON THE YIELD OF THE PROJECT AND THE COST OF THE PROJECT, UM, I THINK BY THE END OF 2026.

SO THIS IS HOW WATER CURRENTLY MOVES TO THE SYSTEM AND WILL CONTINUE EVEN WITH THE PROJECT.

SO MOST OF THE WATER COMES IN FROM THE SACRAMENTO, ABOUT 80% OF INFLOW TO THE DELTA, UM, AND ABOUT 20% COMES IN FROM THE SAN JOAQUIN.

UM, AND THEN LIKE YOU SEE, IT GETS EXPORTED THROUGH THE SOUTH DELTA.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S AN EARTHQUAKE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, SEAWATER COULD INTRUDE AND, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WERE A TUNNEL, UH, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO AVOID THE DELTA AND BE ABLE TO PUMP AROUND THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY OR A MAJOR DROUGHT, SEAWATER, INTRUSION, ET CETERA.

UM, SO SIMILARLY, AS WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, THERE'S CLIMATE CHANGE ANTICIPATED.

SO, UH, THE PROJECT IS ACTUALLY PERMITTED TO BE A WET, UH, ONLY TAKING LOTS OF WATER LIKE THE BIG SIP, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE'S LOTS OF WATER AVAILABLE IN THE SYSTEM.

SO IT'S DESIGNED RIGHT NOW TO CAPTURE THESE FLASHIER STORMS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE WINTER.

SO WHEN THERE ARE LOTS OF RESTRICTIONS, UH, THE PUMPS DUE TO THE PRESENCE OF FISH, LIKE WE SAID EARLIER IN THE WINTER, UM, THE TUNNEL WILL BE ABLE TO DIVERT WATER IN THE NORTH OF THE DELTA, ESPECIALLY DURING HIGH FLOWS.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, ALLOW FOR RESTRICTIONS TO BE IN PLACE IN THE SOUTH DELTA TO PROTECT FISH.

IT'S ALSO WORTH NOTING THAT, UM, THE WAY THE SYSTEM IS RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL FUNNELING KIND OF VIA GRAVITY DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF THE DELTA.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE FISHER ARE, DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYWHERE TO GO, RIGHT OR DOWN AT THE BOTTOM.

UM, THE DELTA CONVEYANCE PROJECT IS BEING DESIGNED WITH TWO INTAKES THAT ARE DIFFERENT THAN LIKE KIND OF AT THE BASE OF THE FACILITY.

THEY ARE HAVING A, UM, SIDE CHANNELS.

SO THEY'RE BE BEING BUILT ON THE SIDE OF THE RIVER FISH SCREENS.

AND SO THIS ALLOWS FOR FISH TO MORE EASILY PASS BY SO THEY'RE NOT ENDING UP STUCK, UH, THERE.

AND SO THE FISH SCREENS AND THE SIDE CHANNEL DESIGN WILL REALLY ALLOW FOR DWR TO REALLY PROTECT AND ENHANCE, UH, YOU KNOW, PROTECTIONS FOR SPECIES.

SO, UH, THIS IS BASED ON 2024.

UM, SO WE IMAGINE THAT, UH, THAT 400,000 ACRE FEET YIELD THAT'S ESTIMATED, THAT'S LIKE ON THE LONG-TERM AVERAGE.

AND SO THAT'S BASED ON LIKE MONTHLY MODELING AND A MODEL PLATFORM CALLED CALCIUM THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOREVER.

BUT REALLY WHAT CALCIUM DOESN'T CAPTURE ARE THESE FLASHY STORMS. AND SO THIS IS A REPRESENTATION OF ACTUALS.

AND SO, UH, IN 2024, WE COULD HAVE HAD A LOT MORE WATER.

THERE WERE A LOT OF RESTRICTIONS ON PUMPING DUE TO FISH, UH, BUT IF WE HAD HAD THE TUNNEL, WE WOULD'VE HAD A LOT MORE WATER IN STORAGE.

UM, AND SO EVEN DURING, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT YEAR TYPES, THE TUNNEL COULD BE AVAILABLE TO, UM, CAPTURE MORE OF THOSE STORM FLOWS.

SO LOTS OF TIMES, EVEN DURING VERY DRY YEARS AND DROUGHTS, THERE ARE PERIODS OF TIME WHERE THERE'S, UH, VERY HIGH FLOWS AND THE TUNNEL CAN BE USED QUICKLY TO TRY AND CAPTURE THOSE.

UM, SO EVEN IN THIS IS THE POINT IN LIKE 2015, SUPER, SUPER DRY, UM, YOU KNOW, WE STILL COULD HAVE HAD AN ADDITIONAL, UH, 300,000 ACRE FEET IF THE TUNNEL WERE IN PLACE.

SO A LONG-TERM AVERAGE, RIGHT? UH, WE IMAGINED THAT THE DELIVERIES TO METROPOLITAN WOULD VARY BY YEAR TYPE.

AND LIKE WE SAID, MORE OF THE WATER IS CAPTURED ORIGINALLY IN QUITE YEARS.

UM, SO, BUT IN EVERY YEAR TYPE, WE IMAGINED THAT THE PROJECT COULD PROVIDE BENEFITS.

SO, UH, IF YOU'LL RECALL, METROPOLITAN IN ALL OF THE DCP PARTICIPANTS TOOK A VOTE IN LATE 2024 AND DECEMBER OF 24, UH, METROPOLITAN AUTHORIZED.

UH, SO THE TOTAL PROJECT, UH, THIS TOTAL PIE CHART IS $300 MILLION THAT THE DWR AND THE DELTA CONVEYS AUTHORITY ARE WORKING, UH, ON BUDGETING RIGHT NOW FOR 26 AND 27, METROPOLITAN'S CONTRIBUTION IS ABOUT 47% OF THE TOTAL.

SO THAT'S JUST OVER $141 MILLION.

UH, THE MAJORITY OF THE MONEY IS GOING TOWARDS ENGINEERING AND GEOTECH, UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU FOLLOW THE PROJECT, BUT THERE, THE ONE GOOD NEWS STORY,

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UM, BUT THE JUDGE RECENTLY VACATED THAT.

AND SO, UH, GEOTECH IS ABOUT TO GET UNDERWAY, I BELIEVE, NEXT MONTH.

SO THAT'S REALLY EXCITING AND, UH, SIGNIFICANT ADVANCE FOR THE PROJECT THAT WILL ALLOW FOR, UM, FURTHER ENGINEERING REFINEMENTS, BUT MORE ALSO IMPORTANTLY, UM, MORE REFINEMENTS ON THE TOTAL COST.

SO WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, UM, IS, UH, DWR IS WORKING HARD TO WHAT'S WE'RE CALLING CLOSE THE FUNDING GAP.

AND SO, UM, IF YOU KNOW, KERN COUNTY HAS, YOU KNOW, BOTH URBAN AND AG AND THEY, THEIR AG PARTNERS HAVE DECIDED THAT THIS PROJECT IS PROBABLY TOO EXPENSIVE FOR THEM TO AFFORD.

AND SO KERN IS ONLY PARTICIPATING AT LESS THAN THEIR TABLE A ALLOCATION.

SO THE STATE WATER PROJECT IS GENERALLY ALLOCATED COST BASED ON YOUR TABLE A AND WHAT FACILITIES YOU USE.

UM, BUT THIS PROJECT IS NOT BEING NECESSARILY FULLY ALLOCATED ACCORDING TO TABLE A.

AND SO WE HAVE CHALLENGED DWR TO FIGURE OUT THERE'S ABOUT A 12% GAP, UH, RIGHT NOW, UM, ACCORDING TO OUR TABLE A.

AND SO DWR HAS BEEN WORKING, UH, DILIGENTLY WITH ALL OF THE PARTICIPANTS AND THE GENERAL MANAGERS FROM ALL THE INVESTING AGENCIES TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT CREATIVE WAYS OR CONTRACTUAL WAYS, UM, THAT THAT FUNDING GAP CAN BE CLOSED PRIOR TO, UH, US, ANY OF US MAKING A DECISION ABOUT WHETHER TO GO NO, GO FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION VOTE IN 2027.

UM, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S ONGOING LITIGATION, YAY GEOTECH ONE'S DONE.

THERE IS STILL ONGOING LITIGATION ON CQA, UM, THAT'S MOVING ALONG.

I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S REALLY GOING TO BE ANY REPERCUSSIONS OTHER THAN KIND OF A LONG, DRAWN OUT, UM, SUIT.

AND THEN THE MORE, UH, SPICY ONE, IF YOU WILL, IS THE BOND VALIDATION CASE.

SO, UH, RECENTLY, UM, UNFAVORABLE COURT DECISION CAME OUT, UM, REALLY ON THE COURT OF APPEALS THAT HAD, UM, THERE HAD BEEN A CHALLENGE IN 2020 TO DW R'S ABILITY TO FINANCE THE PROJECT, AND THAT THE ORIGINAL COURT FOUND THAT DWR HAD, UM, OVERLY BROADLY DESCRIBED IT, AND THAT IT WASN'T SPECIFIC ENOUGH FOR DWR TO KNOW THAT IT HAD THE AUTHORITY TO BOND FOR THIS PROJECT IN PARTICULAR.

UM, AND SO THAT WAS CHALLENGED, AND THEN THE COURT OF APPEALS THAT, UM, SAW IT CAME UP WITH A NEW WHOLE LAUNDRY LIST OF OTHER THINGS THAT WAS NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL RULING.

AND SO DWR, I THINK HAS, UH, PETITIONED THE SUPREME COURT TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

IT'S PROBABLY NOT LIKELY GONNA HAPPEN, UM, BUT THEY'RE ALSO WORKING ON, UM, A STRATEGY.

BUT THERE'S, UH, IN, IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS, WE'LL HEAR IF THE SUPREME COURT HAS DECIDED TO TAKE UP THE CASE OR NOT.

UM, BUT DWR IS WORKING ON A VARIETY OF STRATEGIES TO TRY TO OVERCOME THIS ADVERSE RULING.

UM, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT FATAL, IT JUST MEANS THAT THERE'S MORE DELAY RATHER THAN SPEEDY RESOLUTION.

UM, ALSO ONGOING RIGHT NOW IS THE CERTIFICATION OF CONSISTENCY WITH THE DELTA STEWARDSHIP COUNCIL.

SO, UM, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO THEY HAD A PUBLIC HEARING AND THEY JUST NOTICED IT THIS WEEK THAT I THINK, UM, THE COMMISSION IS GOING TO, THE, THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO ISSUE ITS WRITTEN, UM, DETERMINATION, UH, ON APRIL, I THINK 13TH WITH A HEARING DATE, I THINK AT THE END, MAYBE APRIL 23RD, SOME THAT, THAT WEEK, MORE OR LESS.

UM, AND WE ANTICIPATE, AND DWR HAS ANTICIPATED AND BUILT INTO THEIR SCHEDULE THAT, UH, THE STEWARDSHIP COUNCIL MAY ASK DWR TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD FOR PART OF THEIR CER CERTIFICATION OF CONSISTENCY.

SO THAT'S LIKE REMANDING PART OF THEIR, UH, CERTIFICATION.

UM, BUT WE ANTICIPATED THAT AND WE EXPECT IT TO BE MINOR.

AND OVERALL, I WOULD SAY IF YOU WATCHED, UM, ON WATER FIX OR KNOW THE OTHER ONES, UH, THIS TIME IT WENT WAY BETTER THAN, THAN LAST TIME.

SO I THINK THAT, UM, ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, IT MAY NOT BE, THERE MAY BE SOME MORE WORK TO DO THERE, UM, EVERYBODY'S PRETTY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT HOW THAT PROCESS IS GOING RELATIVE TO HOW IT HAS GONE IN THE PAST.

UM, ALSO ONGOING IS THE WATER RIGHTS PERMITTING.

SO IN ORDER FOR DWR TO, UH, MOVE STATE WATER PROJECT, THE STATE WATER PROJECT NEEDS TO BE AMENDED TO CHANGE, TO ADD A POINT OF DIVERSION WHERE THE NEW, UH, INTAKES WILL BE LOCATED.

UM, SO THAT'S ONGOING.

AND, UH, DWR HAD HOPED THAT THAT WOULD BE CONCLUDED BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.

BUT, UH, THAT'S PROBABLY ACTUALLY GONNA BE DRAWN OUT A LITTLE BIT INTO EARLY 27 AT THE EARLIEST.

BUT THE FINAL SCHEDULE FOR THE COMPLETE, UH, HEARING IS NOT YET KNOWN.

SO THAT CONTINUES TO, TO BE ONGOING THROUGH AT LEAST, UH, THE END OF 26 AND PROBABLY THROUGH 27.

SO, UM, IN ADDITION TO ALL OF THOSE ONGOING PROCESSES RIGHT NOW,

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SO I THINK THE WATER RIGHTS IS ESSENTIALLY THE LAST ONE.

SO DWR HAS DONE A GREAT JOB, UH, SECURING ALL OF THE PERMITS, UH, BY THE END OF 2026.

LIKE THEY, UM, SAID THEY WOULD, UH, WE ARE, UH, UPDATING MODELING, RIGHT? SO AS EACH OF THOSE PERMITS COME, UM, AND THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE IS PROBABLY THE WATER RIGHTS.

UM, WE REFINE THE MODELING UNDERSTANDING WHEN IF THERE'S ANY RESTRICTIONS, UH, AND THE TOTAL COST, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET PERMITS, LOTS OF TIMES YOU HAVE TO MITIGATE.

AND SO DWR IS CLOSE TO HAVING A REALLY GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF ITS TOTAL ABILITY TO OPERATE THE PROJECT AS WELL AS ALL OF ITS OBLIGATIONS, UM, TO IMPLEMENT THE PROJECT.

SO WE EXPECT THAT ALL OF THOSE WILL BE ROLLED UP TO AN UPDATED COST ESTIMATE THAT'LL BE AVAILABLE BEFORE FINAL DECISION IN 2027.

SO HERE'S JUST KIND OF A LOOK.

UH, THIS IS METROPOLITAN KIND OF CENTRIC.

THESE ARE THE PAYMENTS THAT, UH, ALL OF THE PARTICIPANTS ARE MAKING.

UM, WE ALL AGREED TO DO KIND OF A, A QUARTERLY PAYMENT SYSTEM.

SO YOU CAN SEE WE'RE IN Q2 OF 2026.

SO METROPOLITAN HAS BASICALLY, UM, ALREADY CONTRIBUTED OVER $24 MILLION TO DWR THIS YEAR WITH, YOU KNOW, THE REMAINDER OF THE 141, UM, DISPERSED KIND OF EVENLY THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE, THE TIMEFRAME HERE.

UM, AND SO WE IMAGINE THAT ALL OF THESE THINGS WILL BE AVAILABLE.

THE COST ESTIMATE UPDATE WILL BE AVAILABLE IN THE BEGINNING OF 27, UH, WITH THE HOPE OF GETTING TO FINAL DECISIONS BY THE END OF 2027.

AND WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, DR. MARTIN.

THAT IS A LOT OF, A LOT OF MOVEMENT, A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? OKAY, ANY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? I JUST WANNA THANK YOU.

YOU, UH, MAUREEN, DR. MARTIN IS A STAR AT METROPOLITAN.

I ALWAYS LOVE WHEN SHE'S ABLE TO COME DOWN ALL THE WAY FROM BERKELEY THIS MORNING AND HEADING BACK UP AFTER THIS.

SO WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION.

UM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS.

CAN YOU EXPAND A LITTLE BIT, WHEN YOU SAY WATER RIGHTS DECISION, WHAT DO THOSE DECISIONS LOOK LIKE? WELL, THE DECISION IS WHAT THE, THE WATER BOARD DOES.

IT ISSUES A DECISION.

SO, UM, IN A DECISION, UM, IT HAS VARIOUS TERMS AND CONDITIONS THAT THEY DEEM THE WATERBOARD DEEMS ARE REQUIRED TO PROTECT, UH, ALL THE BENEFICIAL USES.

SORRY, IT'S VERY JARGONY.

UM, BUT SO THE WATERBOARD HAS A SERIES OF THINGS LIKE PROTECTION FROM FISH AND WILDLIFE, AG RECREATION, YOU KNOW, AND THE CURRENT BAY DELTA WATER QUALITY CONTROL PLAN.

THEY'RE ADDING TRIBAL, UH, BENEFICIAL USES AS WELL, WHICH THEY HAVE ASSUMED AT THIS POINT ARE THE SAME ONE AND THE SAME WITH, UH, FISHERY BENEFITS.

UM, BUT THAT WON'T NECESSARILY ALWAYS BE TRUE, RIGHT? UM, SO WHEN THE WATER BOARD IS MAKING A DECISION ABOUT WHETHER WATER IS AVAILABLE, WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH IT, WHEN YOU CAN TAKE IT, HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE, UM, IT'S CONSIDERING ALL OF THOSE FACTORS.

UM, AND SO THAT'S, THOSE ARE THE ELEMENTS OF A DECISION.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S VERY THOROUGH.

UM, SO SHASTA AND SITES, UM, I'M GONNA ASK IT DIFFERENTLY.

UM, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT OBVIOUSLY DO NOT AGREE WITH THIS.

WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

I THINK IT'S INDIGENOUS, BUT ENVIRONMENTAL AND THERE'S DIFFERENT DELTA PEOPLE WHO'VE COME FORWARD ON THIS.

UM, CAN YOU GIVE US A LITTLE INSIGHT INTO WHY, WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE? SURE.

UM, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, UH, A PROJECT THAT HAS HAD MANY ITERATIONS AND MANY DECADES, AND EVEN YOU COULD SAY DATING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL STATE WATER PROJECT AND THE PERIPHERAL CANAL, RIGHT? AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS MORE LIKE ALMOST A, A MATTER OF FAITH FOR A LOT OF FOLKS AT THIS POINT.

YOU KNOW, DECADES AND DECADES AND GENERATIONS AND GENERATIONS OF KIND OF US VERSUS THEM ON THIS FIGHT.

UM, AND IN DELTA FOLKS WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, ESPECIALLY HISTORICALLY WHEN THE TUNNEL WAS BEEN MUCH, MUCH LARGER, THIS TUNNEL'S MUCH SMALLER.

UM, AND SO THERE HAS BEEN A HISTORICAL FEAR ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ABANDONING THE DELTA, TAKING ALL THE WATER OUT AT THE TOP OF THE SYSTEM BEFORE IT GETS THROUGH THE DELTA.

AND SO THAT WOULD BE A THREAT TO, YOU KNOW, THE WATER QUALITY IN THE DELTA.

UM, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO SUPPORT AGRICULTURE.

SO IF THE PROJECTS FOR WHATEVER REASON ABANDONED THE DELTA, UM, AND SALT WATER CAME IN AND, YOU KNOW, THEY TOOK ALL THE FRESH WATER, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE AFRAID THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO FARM OR, AND THERE'S LOTS OF BOATING RECREATION THERE.

PEOPLE ARE AFRAID THAT, YOU KNOW, THEIR FAMILY MARINAS WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO OPERATE, ET CETERA.

SO, AND YOU KNOW, THE WATER RIGHTS SYSTEM IS COMPLICATED IN CALIFORNIA.

MANY OF THOSE FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME, UM,

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UM, THE STATE WATER PROJECT'S JUNIOR TO A LOT OF WATER RIGHTS.

AND SO PEOPLE ARE AFRAID, YOU KNOW, WHO'VE BEEN IN THE DELTA FOR MANY, MANY GENERATIONS, FARMING IN PARTICULAR, THAT THEY WOULD, UH, THEIR WATER RIGHTS WOULD BE INJURED.

OKAY.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S AN ISSUE OF TRUST AS WELL.

IT IS, YES.

UM, SHASTA AND SITES ARE, ARE THEY ANYWHERE IN THE, IN THE, UM, IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT? UM, WELL, I DON'T EXACTLY KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN ABOUT SHASTA.

SHASTA IS, YOU KNOW, THE RAISING ENOUGH SHASTA SHASTA IS THE, THE LARGEST OPERATION ON, UH, THE SACRAMENTO SIDE RESERVOIR ON THE SACRAMENTO SIDE.

IT'S OPERATED BY THE CENTRAL VALLEY PROJECT AND THE CENTRAL VALLEY PROJECT AND STATE WATER PROJECT ARE OPERATED TOGETHER, UM, TO MEET BOTH OF THEIR OBLIGATIONS.

UM, SO SHAA DOESN'T REALLY FIGURE INTO, UM, THIS PROJECT, UH, AT ALL OTHER THAN THROUGH THE JOINT OPERATION OF CVP AND SWP, UM, SITES.

IT'S INTERESTING, SITES, UH, HAD A WATER, RIGHT? A DRAFT DECISION, UH, CAME OUT TWO WEEKS AGO.

AND SO, UM, IT HAD SOME QUESTIONABLE TERMS IN IT.

UH, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO ANALYZE THE DRAFT DECISION TO SEE WHAT IT MEANS FOR SITES, BUT THE QUESTIONABLE TERMS, AND I'M MAKING WEIRD LITTLE HEAD GESTURES HERE, UM, 'CAUSE THERE ARE A SERIES OF THINGS THAT COULD AFFECT THE TUNNEL AS WELL.

SO THERE'S KIND OF A LIST THAT THE STATE BOARD STAFF, YOU KNOW, HAVE REALLY CHERISHED CERTAIN CONCEPTS, YOU KNOW, DURING THE BAY DELTA WATER QUALITY CONTROL PLAN UPDATE, AS WELL AS SITE'S WATER RIGHT HEARING AND THE TUNNEL WATER RIGHT HEARING.

AND SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SEE THEM MATERIALIZE AND WE'RE ALL IN THE WATER COMMUNITY TRYING TO STRUGGLE WITH LIKE, WELL, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? AND, YOU KNOW, HOW WILL THIS REALLY AFFECT IT? SO THE SITE'S WATER RIGHT, MAY HAVE DIRECT BEARING ON WHAT WE COULD ANTICIPATE, UM, BEING SOME OF THE CONDITIONS THAT WOULD BE FURTHER LIMITING THE, THE TUNNEL AND ITS, UH, BENEFITS AS WELL.

SO I THINK THAT SITES HAS ISSUED A PRESS RELEASE THAT SAID THAT THEY ANTICIPATE BASED ON NO REAL ANALYSIS, BUT BACK OF THE ENVELOPE, JUST QUICK READ, YOU KNOW, A REDUCTION OF ALMOST 20% BASED ON JUST ONE OF THE CRITERIA THAT THE, UM, STATE BOARD IMPOSED NOW STILL DRAFT.

THEY CAN STILL CHANGE IT.

UM, THERE'S PUBLIC COMMENTS COMING UP, UH, ET CETERA AS PART OF THEIR WATER RIGHTS HEARING, UH, DUE AT THE END OF MAY.

UM, SO THIS ISN'T THE, THE BE ALL END ALL, BUT THEY ARE RELATED.

UM, AND SITES IN THE TUNNEL CAN WORK REALLY WELL TOGETHER IF THEY WERE TO OPERATE TOGETHER.

SO BOTH OF THEM DIVERT WATER DURING WET TIMES, BUT SITES AS A STORAGE PROJECT.

SO IT'S TAKING WATER AND SAVING IT IN THE NORTH OF THE STATE AND THEN RELEASING IT FOR ITS INVESTORS WHEN MOST LIKELY WHEN IT'S DRY AND THERE'S LOTS OF CAPACITY AND THERE'S NOT LOTS OF WATER ELSEWHERE IN THE SYSTEM.

SO, UM, I THINK THAT THE TUNNEL AND SITES COULD OPERATE TO REALLY, UH, OPTIMIZE THE BENEFITS OF BOTH PROJECTS.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE THAT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NOPE.

ALL GOOD.

ALRIGHT.

I THINK YOU'RE OFF THE HOOK.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, DR. MARTIN.

IT WAS, IT WAS VERY EDUCATIONAL AND GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO RECEIVE AND FILE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU.

UH, MOVING ON.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE, UH, ADOPT SPECIFICATIONS UD 26 3 3 AND AWARD A CONTRACT WITH LOS ANGELES TRUCK CENTERS, L-L-C-D-B-A, UH, VELOCITY TRUCK CENTERS FOR THE PURCHASE OF ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURER, OEM PARTS AND REPAIR SERVICES FOR HEAVY DUTY FLEET VEHICLES ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS.

UH, MAY I PLEASE HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT? SO MOVE.

THANK YOU IN A SECOND.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO THIS ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS BEFORE US

[5. 26-54747 Recommendation to adopt Specifications UD-26-313 and award a contract with Los Angeles Truck Centers, LLC, (dba Velocity Truck  Centers) for the purchase of original equipment manufacturer (OEM) parts and repair services for heavy-duty fleet vehicles on an as-needed basis, in an annual amount not to exceed $100,000 for a one-year period, with options to renew for up to two additional one-year periods, and authorize the General Manager to execute all documents necessary to enter into the contract, including any necessary subsequent amendments.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

IN THE INTEREST OF TIME.

AND UNLESS THERE'S AN OBJECTION FROM THE COMMISSION, UH, I WOULD, UH, ENTERTAIN PROCEEDING TO APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WITHOUT A STAFF PRESENTATION.

UH, ANY CONCERNS FROM THE BOARD? ALRIGHT.

UH, SEEING NO REQUESTS, UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? UH, WELL, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

UH, ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

UH, AND MOVING ON TO, UH, ITEM NUMBER SIX,

[6. 26-54750 Recommendation to adopt Resolution No. UT-1549 authorizing the General Manager to execute a contract, and any necessary subsequent amendments, with Quinn Power Systems Associates, as the authorized distributor for Caterpillar, Inc., for the purchase and delivery of one (1) natural gas standby generator on the same terms and conditions specified in the Sourcewell Cooperative Purchasing Agreement with Caterpillar, Inc. (Contract No. 92222-CAT), in a total amount not to exceed $226,593 until the Sourcewell Contract expires on November 22, 2027, with the option to renew for as long as the Sourcewell Contract is in effect, at the discretion of the General Manager.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

FOR THE PURCHASE AND DELIVERY OF ONE NATURAL GAS STANDBY GENERATOR.

UH, AGAIN, UH, THIS ITEM HAS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

UH,

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UM, DOES THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY, ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, UM, UH, WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND THIS THE RESOLUTION, SO WE'LL NEED A ROLL CALL VOTE FROM DINA VICE PRESIDENT.

SORRY, ONE SECOND.

I THOUGHT WE HAD A MOTION.

SORRY.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

VICE PRESIDENT CORDERO? YES.

SECRETARY PARKIN? YES.

COMMISSIONER MCGUIRE? YES.

COMMISSIONER AUSTIN AND PRESIDENT SCOTT.

AYE.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

MOVING ON, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, AUTHORIZE

[7. 26-54751 Recommendation to authorize the General Manager to execute all documents necessary to enter into an agreement, including any necessary subsequent amendments, with CP VI Marketplace, LLC, for the relocation and construction of potable water mains, including all associated appurtenances for the housing project located at 6615 E. Pacific Coast Highway, at no cost to the Long Beach Public Utilities Department.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

IN ORDER TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION, MAY PLEASE HAVE A MOTION.

THANK YOU.

AND A SECOND.

SECOND.

ALRIGHT, AND CALL ON DENNIS SANTOS, YOU ARE NOT SO LUCKY TO GET OFF THE HOOK.

MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

AS, UH, PRESIDENT SCOTT MENTIONED, MY NAME IS DE SANTOS, I AM THE MANAGER OF ENGINEERING AND I OVERSEE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIVISION.

I HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION ABOUT THIS PROPOSED WATER MAIN RELOCATION PROJECT.

THE DEVELOPER FOR THE PROJECT CP SIX MARKETPLACE, LLC, INFORM OUR DEPARTMENT OF THEIR PROPOSED HOUSING PROJECT AT 6 6 1 5 EAST PCH.

SO THIS IS, UH, LOCATED JUST SOUTH OF, UH, THE MARKETPLACE AREA, THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF PCH AND STUDEBAKER ROAD.

THIS HOUSING PROJECT IS A MIXED USE CONSISTING OF SIX STORY BUILDING AND 390 APARTMENT UNITS AND COMMERCIAL RETAIL SPACES.

OUR DEPARTMENT HAS EXISTING EIGHT INCH AND 12 INCH WATER MAINS THAT CURRENTLY RUN WITHIN THE LIMITS OF, UM, PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION.

AND ON THE MAP HERE ON THE SCREEN, IT'S THE BLUE LINE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED TO MAKE ROOM FOR THE HOUSING PROJECT.

THE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING TO RELOCATE OUR EXISTING WATER MAIN AND FOR THE NEW ALIGNMENT, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 2,200 HUNDRED LINEAR FEET, IT'LL RUN ALONG STUDEBAKER ROAD HEADING EAST AND THEN AROUND THE PROJECT SITE AREA WITHIN A NEW EASTMAN.

SO LOOKING AT THE EXHIBIT, IT'S THE THICK BLUE LINE, UH, WRAPPING AROUND THE SHADED AREA, WHICH IS THE FOOTPRINT OF THE CONSTRUCTION SITE.

REGARDING RESPONSIBILITIES, THE DEVELOPER WILL HIRE THEIR OWN DESIGN CONSULTANT TO TAKE CARE OF THE DRAWING PREPARATION AND ALSO HIRE THEIR OWN CONTRACTOR TO PERFORM THE WORK.

LONG BEACH UTILITIES WILL BE RESPONSIBLE TO TAKE CARE OF PROJECT COORDINATION, PLAN REVIEW, AND, UM, INSPECTION EFFORTS.

THIS PROJECT IS SLATED TO START IN THE SUMMER OF THIS YEAR.

THIS PROPOSED WATERLINE RELOCATION IS DESIGNATED AS A DEVELOPER'S PROJECT, AND UNDER THIS ARRANGEMENT, THE DEVELOPER WILL FULLY TAKE RESPONSIBILITY OF ALL ASSOCIATED COSTS.

THEREFORE, THERE IS NO FISCAL IMPACT TO THE DEPARTMENT.

ONCE THE PROJECT IS COMPLETED AND THE WATER MAINS AND ALL IMPROVEMENTS ARE DONE, THERE'LL BE, UM, PUBLIC UTILITIES AND THEY'LL BE DEDICATED TO THE WATER DEPART OR UTILITIES DEPARTMENT.

WITH THIS INFORMATION THAT I JUST SHARED, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE BOARD AUTHORIZE THE GENERAL MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT, INCLUDING ANY NECESSARY SUBSEQUENT AMENDMENTS WITH CP SIX MARKETPLACE LLC, WHERE THE RELOCATION AND CONSTRUCTION OF PORTABLE WATER MAINS, INCLUDING ALL ASSOCIATED PS, WHERE THE HOUSING PROJECT LOCATED AT 6 6 1 5 EAST PCH AT NO COST TO THE LONG BEACH PUBLIC UTILITIES DEPARTMENT.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

DENNIS, ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? ANY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? YES, I HAVE A QUESTION.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING, UM, 390 DWELLING UNITS.

WHEN IS IT OVER 500 THAT THEY HAVE TO COME BACK? 300, YES.

390, UM, APARTMENT UNITS.

OKAY.

SO WHEN DO THEY HAVE TO COME BACK AND DO WE HAVE TO SAY, YES, WE HAVE ENOUGH WATER TO DO THAT? OH, FOR THE WATER SUPPLY ASSESSMENT COMMISSIONER, IT HAS TO BE

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SO THEY'RE NOT QUITE THERE YET.

YEAH, SO IT IT, FOR THE WATER SUPPLY ASSESSMENT PIECE THAT'S 500 FOR WHAT THE SPACE WAS BEFORE, WHAT IT'S GOING TO BECOME NOW, UH, THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT USUALLY WILL TRIGGER A SEWER CAPACITY CHARGE BECAUSE IT'LL BE A REVISION OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PLUMBING FIXTURES IN THE DEVELOPMENT.

AS THAT PUTS MORE STRESS ON THE SEWER SYSTEM, REGARDLESS OF CAPACITY, WE ASK YOU TO BUY INTO THE SYSTEM AS A RESULT OF THOSE FIXTURES.

SO THAT TRANSACTION IS SEPARATE FROM THE WATER SUPPLY ASSESSMENT.

THEY BOTH GO HAND IN HAND THOUGH WITH THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU'RE TAKING PLACE.

WAIT, WAS THIS THE OLD OFFICE BUILDING WHERE ACROSS FROM MIMI, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, EXACTLY THAT ONE, YEAH.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR THAT, DENNIS.

THANK YOU.

UM, WHEN YOU SAY NO COST TO THE LONG BEACH UTILITIES, THAT INCLUDES, IS THERE GAS CONNECTIONS ALSO AT THIS FACILITY THAT'S GONNA BE INCLUDED? UH, AT LEAST FOR THIS PROJECT, IT'S ONLY WATER RELATED.

UH, THERE WILL BE SOME GAS COMPONENTS, BUT THEY'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH OUR GAS ENGINEERING, UH, SITE ON THAT ONE.

BUT FOR SURE IF THERE WILL BE ANY NEW CONNECTIONS, THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE RESPONSIBLE TO PAY FOR.

OKAY.

AND THEN ALSO, WHEN YOU SAY NO COST, DOES THAT INCLUDE STAFF'S TIME TO REVIEW THE PROJECTS AND SO THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE AGREEMENT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO EXECUTE? YES.

SO THE DEVELOPER GAVE US AN ESTIMATE FOR CONSTRUCTING THE NEW MAIN, WHICH IS AROUND $570,000.

AND THEN FOR STAFF TIME AND OUR INSPECTORS, WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE THAT WE WILL PUT TOGETHER.

WE WILL REQUIRE THE DEVELOPER TO, UH, PAY US THAT AMOUNT AS A DEPOSIT, AND THEN FROM THERE WE CAN, UH, BASICALLY CHARGE OUR TIME AND EFFORT.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER PARK AND ONE, ONE, AND DENNIS, YOU'LL HELP ME OUT ON THIS.

SO THE, THE CRITICAL ASPECT HERE IS INDEED THE DEVELOPMENT AND THERE'S GONNA BE ANY NUMBER OF ISSUES WITH WATER METERS, THE PLUMBING FIXTURES OF YOU FOR THE SEWER, GAS METERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

PARTICULAR, AND SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS ITEM, I BELIEVE IS THE FACT THAT WATER MAINS NEED TO BE RELOCATED.

SO THAT ENTIRE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS TO GET REBUILT AND REDONE AND WE ARE NOT GONNA DO IT OURSELVES.

THE DEVELOPER'S GONNA DO IT AND THEN HAND THAT INFRASTRUCTURE OVER TO US AT NO COST TO US.

WE THEN TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THOSE WATER LINES.

JUST WANTED TO GIVE THAT DISTINCTION BECAUSE THERE IS ALL THE ASSOCIATED FEES AND STUFF ASSOCIATED WITH METERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THIS IS ONE LEVEL HIGHER THAN THAT IN TERMS OF ACTUAL CHANGES TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THE DEVELOPER'S GONNA DO ON OUR BEHALF AND THEN HAND IT BACK TO US.

AND EVEN IN THOSE SITUATIONS UNDER AGREEMENT, OUR COSTS FOR REVIEW AND SO FORTH ARE ALSO GONNA GET RECOVERED.

AND THAT WAS MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE A GAS LINE THAT'S ALSO GONNA HAVE TO BE REPLACED? IS THERE A MAIN GAS? I, THAT'S WHAT I DIDN'T KNOW.

IT, IT SEEMS, I BELIEVE THERE WILL BE COMMISSIONER.

IT'S JUST THAT FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, IT'S NOT INCLUDED AS A SCOPE OF, I'LL LOOK INTO THAT AND GET YOU AN ANSWER ON THAT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY.

UH, LET'S SEE.

WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND, UH, TO APPROVE THE EXECUTION OF DOCUMENTS.

UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU.

GENEROUS.

THANK YOU.

UH, I, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, ADOPT

[8. 26-54752 Recommendation to adopt Resolution No. UT-1550 authorizing the General Manager to execute a contract, and any necessary documents including subsequent amendments, with Haaker Equipment Company for the purchase of manufacturer-authorized replacement OEM parts and services for video pipeline inspection equipment; high-pressure jetting systems equipment; and vehicle broom sweeper equipment, in an annual amount not to exceed $200,000 for a one-year period, with the option to renew for two additional one-year periods.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

IN ORDER TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION, MAY I PLEASE HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND.

THANK YOU.

UH, COLIN.

MIKE HERBA, THE PRESENTATION.

HI MIKE.

GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

UH, MY NAME IS MICHAEL HERBO, MANAGER OF SEWER OPERATIONS.

TODAY I'LL BE PRESENTING THE RECOMMENDATION TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH HAER EQUIPMENT COMPANY FOR THE PURCHASE OF MANUFACTURER AUTHORIZED REPLACEMENT OEM PARTS AND SERVICES SEWER OPERATIONS.

HAS FIVE CCTV VEHICLES WITH ENVIRO SITE INSPECTION EQUIPMENT INSTALLED, UH, FIVE JETTER TRUCKS WITH THE VECTOR JETTING SYSTEM AND ONE ELGEN MECHANICAL BROOM SWEEPER UTILIZED IN THE WATER FLEET.

AC EQUIPMENT COMPANY IS A SOLE PROVIDER OF MANUFACTURER AUTHORIZED OEM REPLACEMENT PARTS AND SERVICES IN THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA REGION FOR IN VIRAL SITE VECTOR AND ELGIN EQUIPMENT, PARTS AND SERVICES

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THESE SURVEYS GENERATE REPAIR PACKETS FOR CONSTRUCTION CREWS TO COMPLETE IN-HOUSE AND CAPTURE THE NECESSARY INFORMATION ENGINEERING NEEDS TO SUPPORT CIP PROGRAM.

THE VECTOR JETTING SYSTEM IS USED FOR ROUTINE AND COLLECTION SYSTEM CLEANING AND FOR RESPONDING TO EMERGENCY STOPPAGES HELPING PREVENT SEWER SPILLS.

THE ELGIN MECHANICAL BROOM SWEEPER IS PRIMARY USED BY THE WATER FLEET TO CLEAR MUD AND DEBRIS AFTER CONSTRUCTION AND MAJOR WATER BREAKS.

STAFF RECOMMENDS TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER UT 1 5 5 0 AUTHORIZING THE GENERAL MANAGER EXECUTE A CONTRACT AND ANY NECESSARY DOCUMENTS INCLUDING SUBSEQUENT AMENDMENTS WITH HAER EQUIPMENT COMPANY FOR THE PURCHASE OF MANUFACTURER AUTHORIZED REPLACEMENT OEM PARTS AND SERVICES FOR VIDEO PIPELINE INSPECTION EQUIPMENT, HIGH PRESSURE JETTING SYSTEMS, EQUIPMENT AND VEHICLE BROOM SWEEPER EQUIPMENT IN AN ANNUAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $200,000 OR A ONE YEAR PERIOD AND WITH AN OPTION TO RENEW FOR TWO ADDITIONAL ONE YEAR PERIODS.

AND THAT CONCLUDES PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU, YOU MICHAEL, ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? ANY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UM, YOU KNOW, I'M FRESH OFF OF A TOUR OF, UH, FACILITIES AND I GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE MANY OF THESE, UM, FLEET VEHICLES.

UH, JUST SO I I'VE UNDER, I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY, YOU SAY THE SOLE AUTHORIZED DEALER.

IS THERE ANY OTHER OPTION FOR REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT PARTS FOR THESE, UH, VEHICLES? NO.

SO IF YOU WANTED THE ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT FOR THE PARTS, IT WOULD BE THROUGH TAKER AND FOR THE, UH, VEHICLES TO REMAIN WARRANTY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MICHAEL, IF YOU WOULD JUST STAND BY FOR A SECOND.

UH, SO WE'VE GOT A, UH, UH, MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

UH, MOVING ON.

ITEM WHAT THE ROLL CALL.

OH, I'M SO SORRY.

RESOLUTION, IS IT A RESOLUTION? UH, VICE PRESIDENT CORDERO? UH, YES.

SECRETARY PARKIN.

COMMISSIONER MCGUIRE? YES.

COMMISSIONER AUSTIN.

AYE.

PRESIDENT SCOTT.

I THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

I'VE GOT TWO STRIKES.

I'VE GOT ONE LEFT AND YOU'RE OUT OF HERE.

AND THEN I'M OUT.

.

UH, OKAY.

AGENDA

[9. 26-54753 Recommendation to adopt Specifications UD-26-307 and award a contract to Los Angeles Truck Centers, LLC, dba Velocity Truck Centers, for the purchase and delivery of one compressed natural gas (CNG) 10-yard dump truck, in a total amount not to exceed $400,000, and authorize the General Manager to enter into the contract, including any necessary subsequent amendments.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

SO SPECIFICATIONS UD 26 3 0 7 AND AWARD OF CONTRACT TO LOS ANGELES TRUCK CENTERS.

L-L-C-D-B-A VELOCITY TRUCK CENTERS FOR THE PURCHASE AND DELIVERY OF ONE COMPRESSED NATURAL GAS CNG 10 YARD DUMP TRUCK.

UH, THIS ITEM IS FORCED WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, AND UNLESS THERE'S AN OBJECTION FROM THE COMMISSION, I WOULD ENTERTAIN PROCEEDING TO APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WITHOUT A STAFF PRESENTATION.

ANY REQUEST FOR PRESENTATION? MOTION TO APPROVE.

THANK YOU.

A SECOND.

THANK YOU.

UH, I SHOULD CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT REAL QUICK.

ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THANK YOU.

UH, SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

UH, THIS IS NOT A RESOLUTION, SO WE CAN JUST VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10, RECEIVE AND

[10. 26-54754 Recommendation to receive and file March 19, 2026 Finance Committee Report.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

UH, DO, UH, MAY I PLEASE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE? THANK YOU.

IN A SECOND.

SECOND.

ALRIGHT.

CALLING ON SECRETARY PARKIN FOR THE PRESENTATION.

OKAY.

UM, THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, WE MET, UH, EARLY MARCH, WHICH I THINK IS THE EARLIEST WE'VE EVER MET ON THE BUDGET, WHICH IS A YEAR ROUND PROJECT I'M LEARNING AND, UM, NEVER STOPS.

SO APPRECIATE THE EARLY, UH, MEETING.

AND THEN STEPHANIE AND STAFF, THEY PRESENTED A VERY THOUGHTFUL APPROACH TO EVALUATING THE OPERATIONAL DEMANDS, THE DRIVERS, COST DRIVERS, AND THE LONG-TERM FINANCIAL STABILITY AND, AND SUSTAINABILITY.

AND RATHER THAN DETAILED FIGURES, WHICH PROBABLY THE FIRST FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING I'VE EVER BEEN TO WHEN WE DIDN'T TALK ANY NUMBERS, WHICH WAS HELPFUL FOR ME TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

AND THEN, UM, THE, WE HAD A NUMBER OF PRESENTATIONS BY THE, STARTING WITH DANIEL AND THEN DEAN WITH WATER RESOURCES AND TONY ON GAS AND THOMAS ON CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, AND THEN TIE ON OPERATIONAL MAINTENANCE, AND I THINK JAIME ALSO ON STRATEGIC LABOR INVESTMENTS.

AND I THINK THE STRUCTURE WITH THE COMMITTEE WAS VERY COMPREHENSIVE,