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HELLO.

I'D LIKE TO CALL THE ADVISORY COMMISSION ON AGING MEETING TO ORDER, OR THE EIGHTH, 10 O'CLOCK EIGHT.

IF YOU HAVE YOUR CELL PHONE, PLEASE PLACE IT ON SILENT.

TURN IT OFF PLEASE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND I'D LIKE TO ALSO, UH, ADVISE YOU THAT WHEN WE GET THE PUBLIC COMMENT, IT'S A TIME FOR YOU TO SPEAK AND MAKE YOUR COMMENTS, BUT THE PRESENTER NOR THE COMMISSIONERS CAN RESPOND TO YOUR COMMENTS.

SO I JUST WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT, UH, CLERK, PLEASE CALL MR. .

COMMISSIONER CIA HERE.

COMMISSIONER HINES.

COMMISSIONER KAVANAUGH.

COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT.

COMMISSIONER SUTHERLAND, VICE CHAIR SALCITO.

PRESENT CHAIR CLARK.

HERE.

WE HAVE A QUORUM YOU AT THIS TIME.

UM, MAKE SURE YOUR PHONES ARE SILENT.

IF I HEAR ANY, I'M GONNA SAY WOO.

OH .

COMMISSIONER SMITH, PLEASE PROVIDE PERMISSION FOR YOU.

WE ADVOCATE TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY ADVICE CULTURALLY DIVERSE OVERPOPULATE BY EXTENDING KNOWLEDGE AND SERVICES RELATED TO EDUCAT HOUSING, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, SAFETY, TECHNOLOGY, LANGUAGE OUTSIDE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

COMMISSIONER SAN, PLEASE PROVIDE THE LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT WILL BE ADVISORY COMMISSION ON AGING.

RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE ON TRADITIONAL AND SACRED LANDS OF MANY INDIGENOUS GROUPS WHO CALL THESE DRONES HOME.

WE THANK THEM FOR THEIR STRENGTH, PERSEVERANCE, AND RESISTANCE.

AND THEIR SPIRIT MAY STRIVE TO ALWAYS HONOR AND RESPECT THE WISDOM OF OUR ELDERS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

COMMISSIONER ILLA.

AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE FOR EVERYBODY WHO IS ABLE TO RISE, WE WILL HAVE THE PLEASURE WE JUST LED BY THANK MARK I PLEDGE TO OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD IN THE IBLE WITH LIBERTY OF US FOR ALL.

FOR ALL CLERK, PLEASE CALL FOR THE FIRST ITEM.

ITEM ONE.

RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE ADVISORY COMMISSION ON AGING MEETING OF WEDNESDAY, MARCH 11TH, 2026.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION? AND SECOND FOR THIS ITEM, APPROVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE COMMISSIONER HIN.

COMMISSIONER SCH SMITH CONCERNS ABOUT THE MINUTES.

ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK OF THE MINUTES, PLEASE STAND.

THANK YOU.

CLERK, PLEASE CALL FOR THE VOTE.

COMMISSIONER CIA.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER HINES.

COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT.

COMMISSIONER SUTHERLAND.

PARDON? WHATEVER I JUST BROUGHT HIM.

I'M NOT SURE.

ABSTAIN.

ABSTAIN.

OKAY.

VICE CHAIR SALCITO.

CHAIR CLARK? YES.

MOTION IS CARRIED.

PLEASE READ THE NEXT ITEM, BUT WE ITEM TWO.

RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE PRESENTATION ON THE DESIGN UPDATE AT THE NEW SENIOR CENTER LOCATED AT 1 2 5 ELM AVENUE FROM PUBLIC WORKS.

I HAVE A SECOND AND I STILL MOVE.

I SECOND.

COMMISSIONER MOVED.

COMMISSIONER HIN SECOND.

I'LL NOW TURN THINGS OVER TO THE STAFF FOR .

GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS, CITY STAFF, A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC.

UH, WE ARE REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE TODAY TO SHARE AN UPDATE.

I I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN, UH, WAITING TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THE PROGRESS OF THE NEW, UH, LONG BEACH SENIOR CENTER, SO WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO SHARE IT AND SHARE WITH THAT INFORMATION WITH YOU.

UM, SO WE DO HAVE AN AGENDA FOR TODAY.

UM, I, I WON'T READ THE ENTIRE AGENDA, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE A LOT TO COVER.

I DID WANNA START WITH

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INTRODUCTIONS.

MY NAME IS NANCY AND I'M THE PROJECT MANAGER, UH, WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT THAT IS, UH, RESPONSIBLE FOR WORK, UH, GETTING, GETTING THIS PROJECT DELIVERED.

AND, UH, I'M ALSO EXCITED TO HAVE, UH, OUR DESIGN TEAM FROM OFFICE FOUR TWO, UM, ARCHITECTURE HERE TODAY.

AND I'LL LET THEM INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.

THANK YOU.

UH, MY NAME IS BEN RELE.

I'M PRINCIPAL ARCHITECT WITH OFFICE FOUR TWO ARCHITECTURE PLEASE.

MESSER, I AM ONE OF THE DESIGNERS WORKING ON THE PROJECT.

I'M WAN SONG, UM, PROJECT MANAGER FOR THIS PROJECT.

AND I JUST ACCIDENTALLY SAT .

YOU'RE ACTUALLY OKAY.

SEATED THERE.

YES.

.

UM, I, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS DESIGN TEAM.

UH, THEY'RE VERY CONSCIENTIOUS ABOUT THE END USER EXPERIENCE AND HAVE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SENIOR CENTER REALLY REFLECTS THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.

SO, UM, REALLY EXCITED ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE, UH, BEEN ABLE TO WORK ON SO FAR.

UM, AND I ALSO WANNA LET YOU KNOW, UM, I KNOW THERE WAS A STATEMENT ABOUT PUBLIC SPEAKING, BUT WE WILL BE TAKING COPIOUS NOTES, UH, OF EVERYTHING THAT IS SAID HERE TODAY.

CONSIDER THAT PART OF THE CONTINUED FEEDBACK FOR THIS PROJECT.

UM, SO WITH THAT, WE'LL LAUNCH INTO THE PRESENTATION.

UM, SO THIS IS A BUILDING THAT THE CITY PURCHASED IN, UH, UH, UH, 2022 AT 1 25.

NOW, AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, THIS BUILDING WILL HAVE MULTIPLE USES.

UM, SO THEY INCLUDE, UH, THE FIRST FLOOR, WHICH WILL BE EXCLUSIVELY FOR USE OF THE SENIOR CENTER.

AND THEN THE SECOND FLOOR WILL BE EXCLUSIVE USE OF PARKING FOR SENIOR CENTER.

ONE OVER PLEASE.

NO PROBLEM.

SETTLED.

PLEASE PROCEED.

THANK YOU.

YES, NO PROBLEM.

SO THE FIRST FLOOR WILL BE EXCLUSIVELY SENIOR CENTER USE, SECOND LEVEL PARKING EXCLUSIVE FOR SENIOR CENTER USERS.

AND THEN, UH, WE ALSO HAVE, UH, CITY OFFICES ABOVE THAT.

UM, SO, UM, WE, WE HAVE LONG BEACH POLICE AND LONG BEACH UTILITY OFFICES, AND THEN ADDITIONAL LEVELS OF PARKING.

UM, AND SO, UH, ONE THING THAT WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IS THAT NEW SENIOR CENTER WILL HAVE FLOW, UM, AND ALSO, UH, SPACES WE'RE ENSURING THAT THE SPACES WILL ACCOMMODATE THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU HAVE TODAY.

SO SENIORS WILL CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO JOIN WHAT THEY'RE DOING HERE AT THE CENTER, AT THE FUTURE COMMUNITY CENTER.

AND SO, UH, THERE IS, UH, JUST ABOUT 10 MILLION, JUST SHY OF $10 MILLION DEDICATED TO THIS PROJECT.

UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING, UH, SO FAR THROUGH THE DIVINE PROCESS.

UM, WE'VE SPENT ALMOST $900,000, UM, COMMITTED TO, TO THE SERVICES TOWARDS THIS PROJECT TO DATE.

AND THEN, UM, WE DO WANT, WE DO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE'S A FUNDING GAP, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF, UM, UH, ISSUES ECONOMICALLY WITH INFLATION AND COST ESCALATIONS.

SO WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A GAP AND WE'RE WORKING, UM, AS WE REFINE THE DESIGN DETAILS, WORKING TO IDENTIFY WHAT THOSE FUNDS ARE.

BUT WE ARE ACTIVELY SEARCHING FOR FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.

SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING.

UM, I DID WANNA SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE.

UM, AND THE PURPOSE OF THE ENGAGEMENT IS WE WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT PEOPLE LIKE ABOUT THE CURRENT SENIOR CENTER, WHAT PEOPLE DON'T LIKE, WHAT COULD BE WORKING BETTER, AND HOW THEY PLAN TO USE THE NEW SENIOR CENTER SO THAT WE'RE MEETING THE LEAVE.

AND SO IN LATE 2024, THERE WAS A THEORY OF UNITY ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES.

WE COLLECTED OVER 500, UH, SURVEYS FROM, UH, A COMMUNITY SURVEY.

THERE WERE A POPUP EVENTS.

YES.

TURN YOUR PHONES OFF.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, WE HAD, UH, FIVE POPUP EVENTS AT THE OTHER PARTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT HAVE SENIOR PROGRAM.

UH, WE DID HAVE A, A BIG COMMUNITY WORKSHOP HERE AT, UH, AT THIS CENTER AS WELL AS A FOLLOW UP MEETING WHERE WE SHARED THE RESULTS OF, OF THE DATA THAT WAS COLLECTED.

AND ALL THAT FEEDBACK IS BEING PUT TO USE IN THE DESIGN PROCESS.

UM, SO I'VE MENTIONED PART OF THAT WAS ENSURING THAT ALL THE PROGRAMMATIC NEEDS ARE MET BASED ON WHAT WE HEARD FROM PEOPLE AND THE RESULTS OF THAT DATA.

UM, ALSO CONFIGURING THE FACE, THE PHYSICAL SPACES TO MAKE SURE THOSE PROGRAMMATIC NEEDS ARE MET.

UM, AND THEN, UH, I THINK ONE THING THAT WAS CLEAR ALSO IS THAT THIS IS NOT A TRADITIONAL DESIGN PROCESS.

WE NEED TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF OLDER ADULTS.

UH, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

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AND, UM, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE, THIS IS JUST A SNAPSHOT.

THERE WAS SO MUCH DATA THAT WE COLLECTED, BUT THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE.

LIKE WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT PEOPLE TALK ABOUT PARKING AND ACCESSIBILITY AND ON THE RIGHT.

UM, IT, IT'S ONE OF THE TYPE OF QUESTIONS THAT WE ASK ABOUT, UH, PHYSICAL AND MENTAL ABILITY AND VISIBILITIES, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REALLY CATERING TO THOSE.

AND SO SOME DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS THAT, UM, THAT HELP INFORM, UH, AND CONTINUE TO INFORM THE PROCESS IS WE ARE MOVING INTO AN EXISTING BUILDING.

SO WE'RE NOT BUILDING ANYTHING FROM SCRATCH, WHICH MEANS WE HAVE TO WORK WITH WHAT'S THERE, WITH WHAT'S .

UM, SO WE HAVE TO DESIGN AROUND THAT.

UM, AND THEN WE ALSO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMPLYING WITH CODE REQUIREMENT CALIFORNIA BUILDING CODES, UH, LONG BEACH BUILDING CODES, AND, UM, WHICH INCLUDES AMERICAN WITH DISABILITIES, UH, ACT, UM, ENSURING WE COMPLY WITH ALL THAT.

AND THEN WE LAYER ALL THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK INTO THAT.

UM, SO THERE'S VERY LAYERS, UH, DIFFERENT LAYERS OF, UH, OF CONDITIONS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH, PLUS THE DATA.

AND THEN ALSO WORKING WITH STATE STAFF, UH, OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT, HEALTHY AGING CENTER, UH, AS WELL AS OUR PARKS, REC AND MARINE STAFF AND THEIR PRO PROGRAMMATIC KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE WITH THE CURRENT SENIOR CENTER TO ALSO INFORM THE DEFINE.

UM, AND WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES.

UH, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, THERE IS EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE.

IT, IT'S NOT BAD THAT WE'RE MOVING INTO EXISTING BUILDING BECAUSE WE'RE ABLE TO USE LIKE ELEVATORS AND, AND, UH, RESTROOMS AND LEVERAGE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.

UH, WE ARE CLOSER TO MORE PUBLIC, THE TRANSIT.

UM, WE'RE NOT VERY FAR AT ALL FROM THE TRANSIT MALL.

UM, AND THEN ALSO THE ADDITIONAL PARKING SHOULD ACCOMMODATE SENIORS BEING ABLE TO GET TO THIS, UM, NEW SENIOR CHANNEL FROM, UM, NEW DIFFERENT MOBILE OPTIONS.

AND WITH THAT, I DO WANNA TURN IT OVER TO OUR DESIGN TEAM TO DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE DESIGN.

.

THANK YOU, NANCY.

AGAIN, MY NAME IS WAN.

UM, I'M A PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE DESIGN TEAM.

UM, AND THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT OWNER FOR US AND WE'VE, MY PLEASURE WORKING WITH EVERYONE.

THIS PROJECT.

UM, UH, AS NANCY MENTIONED THAT WE ARE GOING INTO AN EXISTING BUILDING, UM, FIVE STORY PROPERTY BUILDING.

AND SO THERE ARE SOME CON STRUCTURAL CONSTRAINTS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE WORKING ON AROUND.

AND WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE FROM THE SITE PLAN AS A EXISTING BUILDING, IT IS EFFECTIVELY THE GROUND FLOOR IS EFFECTIVELY SPLIT IN TWO, UH, THE PARKING RAMP IN THE MIDDLE, GOING ONTO THE SECOND FLOOR.

AND THE ABOVE LEVELS DOES KIND OF EFFECTIVELY SPLIT THE BUILDING IN TWO.

BUT IT GIVES US MORE OPPORTUNITY, , UM, KIND OF A SPLIT CAMPUS IN A WAY.

BUT THE NEXT SLIDE WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE THESE CONSTRAINTS, BUT WE HAVE ALSO MANY OPPORTUNITIES.

UM, THERE'S A LOT OF EXCITING DEVELOPMENTS HAPPENING IN THE SITES.

UM, AS NANCY MENTIONED, UH, WE'RE CLOSE TO TRANSIT AND WE'RE, UH, CLOSE TO THE CIVICA, THE AMEN AND EAST HERE.

BUT THERE'S EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN THE FIRST STREET, UH, WHICH IS NEXT TO THE SITE, SOUTH SIDE.

UM, THE, THE CITY IS, UM, ENLARGING THE, THE SIDEWALK AND, UM, THE, THE, UH, WALKABLE CORNERS FOR, FOR THIS PART.

AND THIS PROJECT IS INCLUDED IN THAT PROJECT WHERE THE CORNERS AND THE SIDEWALK WILL BE EXPANDED AND, YOU KNOW, BEAUTIFIED AND, AND EASIER TO WALK AROUND, YOU KNOW, AROUND SITES.

AND WE ARE MOVING THE BUS STOP IT BROUGHT UP THE SENIOR CENTER SO THAT IT'S VERY CONVENIENT FOR THE SENIORS TO JUST GET OUT OF THE PARK, UH, THE BUS STATION, THE BUS STOP, AND JUST GO RIGHT IN, RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE, THE ENTRANCE.

AND WE ARE ADDING STREET LEVEL, UM, A DA VAN PARKING SPOTS TOO.

AND, UM, WE'LL BE ADDING LOADING ZONE AS WELL FOR, UH, DROP OFF AND, UH, PICK UP AREA.

UM, AND, UH, LET'S SEE, NEXT SLIDE.

AND AS NANCY MENTIONED, WE WILL BE PROVIDING A LOT MORE A PARKING, BUT FULL SECOND LEVEL IS DEDICATED TO SENIOR, SENIOR CENTER PARKING.

UM, AND, UM, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S A SECURE AND, UH, WELL PARKING, PARKING, UH, PARKING LOT AND IT'S COVERED.

SO IT'S, UH, MUCH, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN IMPROVEMENT FROM WHERE WE ARE HERE IN .

SO I WANTED TO ALSO JUST QUICKLY REVIEW WHAT WE HEARD, UH, FROM THIS PROCESS.

WE MOSTLY STUDIED THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT REPORTS AND VISITED THIS

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CURRENT SENIOR CENTER, UM, MANY TIMES AND SPOKE DIRECTLY WITH THE VISITORS AND, UM, OVH, THE STAFF, AND GOT MORE CLARITY AND MORE INFORMATION ON HOW THE PROGRAM IS RAN HERE.

UM, SO WE ALSO DESIGNED A CLOSE COLLABORATION WITH THE STAFF AND, UM, ON PROGRAM SPACES AND LAYOUTS.

AND WE CREATED MULTIPLE FLOOR PLANS TO STUDY DIFFERENT PROGRAM ARRANGEMENTS AND BUDGET OPTIONS.

UM, WE ALSO STUDIED THE POSSIBILITY OF, UM, I MEAN WE, WE WERE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, FIND A LOT OF CONNECTIONS AND WHAT WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBLE FOR EACH OF THE PROGRAMS IN THE NEW SPACE, UM, TO MAKING SURE THAT WE PROVIDE ALL THE PROGRAMS ARE THAT ARE LIKE HEALTHIER CURRENTLY.

AND THEN THERE'S POSSIBILITY FOR MORE.

SO WE KIND OF CATEGORIZE IT INTO THREE PRIORITIES FROM ALL THE, UM, FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE HEARD.

NUMBER ONE IS THAT, UH, WE ARE PRIORITIZING THE, THE NEW CENTER, UH, AND MAJORITY OF THE AREAS FOR THE SENIOR PROGRAMS. UM, AND, UM, AND THEN SO WE'RE DESIGNING SPACE FOR ALL THE CURRENT SENIOR PROGRAMMING WHILE, UM, HAVING ROOM TO GROW AND EXPAND PROGRAMS IN THE FUTURE.

AND THEN SECOND, SECOND PRIORITY IS TO INSPIRE CONNECTION THROUGHOUT THIS.

SO WE HEARD ALL THE MEANINGFUL CONNECTIONS THAT HAPPEN AT EPICENTER HERE BETWEEN VISITORS AND SERVICES AND FRIENDSHIP BETWEEN, UM, THE SENIORS HERE THAT, UM, COME TOGETHER FOR THE PROGRAMS AND, UH, THESE DESIGN SPACES WHERE THESE TYPES OF INTERACTIONS CAN BE FOSTERED AND .

SO THAT'S OUR SECOND PRIORITY.

AND THEN, UM, LASTLY, OUR, UM, OTHER PRIORITY IS, UH, DESIGNING A SENIOR FOCUS TIME.

LIKE WE HEARD HOW IMPORTANT PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF THE CENTER, LIKE SAFETY AND ACCESSIBILITY, UM, SENSITIVITY, SOUND AND TOUCH AND VISUAL, THOSE KINDS OF ALL ABILITIES.

UM, THERE ARE FOR HELPING VISITORS FEEL COMFORTABLE.

AND YOU'LL SEE HOW WE DESIGN THE NEW CODE SPACES ELEMENTS.

SO WE'LL GO INTO, UH, THE, SOME DETAILS OF HOW WE CAN DESIGNER, UM, NEXT, UH, OUR LEAD DESIGNER.

UM, THESE WILL OVER THE DETAILS OF OUR PROGRAM.

YEAH.

SO, UM, THAT FIRST PRIORITY FOR HIS PROGRAM SPACE WAS FRONT AND CENTER FOR US.

UM, SO WE ORGANIZED THE CURRENT PROGRAMS AT THE CENTER INTO THESE LOOSE CATEGORIES, LEARN, PLAY, GATHER, SUPPORT, STAFF, AND MEETING TO HELP US ORGANIZE AND DESIGN SPECIFIC PLACES TO SUIT THOSE PROGRAM NEEDS.

AND THINK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT SPATIAL NEEDS THAT THE, ALL THE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES THAT, THAT, UM, HAPPENED HERE AT THE SENIOR CENTER.

SO DIFFERENT ROOMS. SO BASED ON OTHER NEEDS, WE ORGANIZED THE ROOMS BASED ON ENERGY, NATURAL LIGHT, AND TRIED TO REALLY ORGANIZE INTO THE BUILDING, UM, COHERENTLY OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING.

SO ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE PLAN, UM, WHILE THE NORTH SIDE HAS MORE FLEXIBLE CLASSROOMS AND MEETING ROOMS ALONG WITH QUIETER AREAS TO PRIORITIZE FOCUS, CONVERSATION AND LEARNING, UM, WE ALSO HAD TO CONSIDER THOSE BUILDING CONSTRAINTS I MENTIONED EARLIER, LIKE STRUCTURAL CONSIDERATIONS WHERE THE RESTROOMS CURRENTLY WORK.

UM, AND SO THAT WAS A BIG CONSTRAINT IN HOW WE ORGANIZED THE SPACE.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE FITNESS MULTIPURPOSE ROOM WAS THE ONLY AREA IN THE WHOLE BUILDING THAT FIT TO FULL SIZE PICKLE BALL BOARDS WITH THE IMF CEILINGS.

UM, SO THAT WAS LIKE A BIG BLOCK THAT WE HAD TO PLACE EARLY ON.

UM, AND THE AUDITORIUM TAKES ADVANTAGE OF NATURAL LIGHT AND A PROMINENT STREET CORNER TO SHOWCASE EVENTS AT THE CENTER.

THERE'S NO COLUMNS IN THAT SPACE.

UM, SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THOSE TWO MAIN, YOU LIKE SHOWCASE SPACES.

UM, SO AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS DIAGRAM, ALL CURRENT SENIOR PROGRAMS ARE ACCOMMODATED IN THE NEW FACILITY.

SO YOU CAN SEE HERE WHERE FAMILIAR PROGRAMMING MIGHT BE HELD IN THE NEW CENTER.

UM, BECAUSE

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THE SPACES ARE DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY FOR SENIOR PROGRAMS, THERE'S ROOM TO EXPAND PROGRAMMING IN THE FUTURE AS WELL.

SO WE WANTED TO, UM, LOOK SPECIFICALLY AT A FEW SPACES.

SO THE COMMUNITY STUDIO, UM, CURRENTLY OUR, OUR NEW PLAN CENTRALIZES THE CREATIVE AND ARTS AND CRAFTS PROGRAMS IN ONE LARGE COLLABORATIVE SPACE.

UM, THE PROPOSED GYM AT THE FUTURE CENTER IS DOUBLE THE AREA OF YOUR CURRENT GYM.

UM, AND THE FITNESS MULTI-PURPOSE ROOM CAN ACCOMMODATE TWO PICKLEBALL SUPPORT PROPER PROPERLY.

UM, AND WE'LL ALSO HOLD ADDITIONAL FITNESS CLASSES LIKE DANCE CLASSES AND .

UM, THE AUDITORIUM HAS CLEAR SIGHT LINES TO THE STAGE, AND BECAUSE IT'S LAID OUT DIFFERENTLY THAN YOUR CURRENT AUDITORIUM, UM, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE MORE PEOPLE WITH A CLEAR VIEW OF THE STAGE.

SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT, UM, HAVING THE PLAYERS REALLY SHOWCASE AND BEING ABLE TO HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS GATHER TO SEE THAT.

UM, SO THE SECOND PRIORITY, INSPIRING CONNECTIONS.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE REALLY HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK WAS, UM, TO REDUCE PINCH POINTS IN THE BUILDING.

SO WIDER HALLWAYS, UH, MORE GENEROUS CLEARANCES AROUND DOORWAYS.

AND, UM, THIS GAVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTIVATE HALLWAYS AS PLACES FOR FOLKS TO MEET, AS WELL AS CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR MORE CASUAL PROGRAMMING TO BE SHARED WITH THE LARGER COMMUNITY.

UM, THESE WIDE CLEARANCES, LIKE 10 FEET WIDE HALLWAYS AT THE NARROWEST SPOT, AND, UH, ALL DOORS BEING AT LEAST SIX FEET WIDE WITH NINE FEET OF CLEARANCE SPACE AROUND IT, UM, ALLOW MULTIPLE PEOPLE TO WALK IN TO SPACE THAT'S TOGETHER.

SO WE CAN SEE HOW THIS PLAYS OUT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING, UM, WITH WARM WAITING AREAS, LIBRARY, NOOK AND LOUNGE SPACES ALL INTEGRATED INTO THE HALLWAY THAT GUIDE PEOPLE THROUGH, UM, TO VARIOUS PROGRAMMING.

AND ON THE SOUTH SIDE, UM, A BRIGHT RECEPTION AREA, WELL, LITT ART GALLERY ACTIVATES, ACTIVATES THE SPACES BETWEEN THE FITNESS MULTIPURPOSE ROOM AND GYM.

UM, SO THIS ALSO PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR STAFF TO PROGRAM THE HALLWAYS WITH ACTIVITIES AND OPEN SOCIAL GATHERING AS WELL.

SO THOSE SENIOR FOCUSED DESIGN ELEMENTS IS REALLY LIKE PHYSICAL ELEMENTS THAT WE REALLY HEARD HOW IMPORTANT THEY ARE, UM, TO USERS.

WE'RE INTEGRATING THOSE INTO THE SPACE.

SO YOU'LL SEE THEM WHEN WE GO THROUGH SOME OF THE PROGRAM AREA.

BUT NATURAL LIGHT, THERE'S, UM, SOME REALLY NICE AREAS IN THE NEW FACILITY, BUT FOUR CEILING WINDOWS.

UM, WE PLAN TO USE ACOUSTIC MATERIALS TO HELP DAMPEN SOUND AND HAVE MORE FOCUSED CONVERSATION, NON-SLIP FLOORING, VEGETABLE VISUALS, WIDE CLEARANCES AND HANDRAILS, UM, HEALTHY LIGHTING, INCLUDING LIKE TA TASK LIGHTING FOR, UM, MORE FOCUSED ACTIVITIES, UM, COMFORTABLE WHAT RESTROOMS AND ASSISTIVE SYSTEMS THROUGHOUT.

SO WE CAN SEE HOW IT PLAYS OUT, UM, IN SPECIFIC PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE SPACE.

SO IN THE RESTROOMS, UM, ALL STALLS, NOT JUST THE ACCESSIBLE STALL AT THE NEW CENTER WILL HAVE GRAB BARS, HIGH TOILETS AND WIDE CLEARANCES.

EACH WING OF THE CENTER HAS A SINGLE UNIT OR UNISEX RESTROOM TO BREAK SPACES FOR CAREGIVERS.

UM, THE COMMUNITY STUDIO HAS SPECIALIZED STUDIO SPACES FOR SMALLER CLASSES AND CLUBS.

AND THEN THE, THE LARGER SPACE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE ROOM, UM, IS LARGER THAN THE CURRENT CENTER.

AND INCREASED PARTICIPATION IN CRAFTS AND CREATIVE SET PROCESS IN THE GYM.

UM, WITH DOUBLE THE AREA OF THE CURRENT CENTER'S GYM, THERE'LL BE GENEROUS CLEARANCE BETWEEN MACHINES AS WELL AS NON-SLIP CUSHION FLOORING FOR A VARIETY OF GYM ACTIVITIES.

AND IN THE FITNESS MULTIPURPOSE ROOM.

UM, THE SPACE ACCOMMO TWO FULL SIZE INDOOR PICKLE WALLS WITH REGULATION, HIGH REGULATION CLEARANCES.

UM, THE CEILING IS OVER 18 FEET HIGH, WHICH WILL PROVIDE GREAT VENTILATION, AIR CIRCULATION FOR GROUP CLASSES, UM, ALONG WITH NATURAL LIGHTING ALONG THE

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PERIMETER IN THE AUDITORIUM.

UM, THE AUDITORIUM IS POSITIONED SO IT HAS THIS PROXIMITY TO THE KITCHEN AND A SEPARATION BETWEEN THE AUDITORIUM AND THE LOUNGE, UM, WHICH PROVIDE CONVENIENT PLACES TO RELAX WITH FOOD AND COFFEE AND HAVE THOSE CASUAL CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HEARD WERE SO IMPORTANT TO FOLKS HERE, UM, ON THE INTEGRATED TECH THROUGHOUT THIS SPACE, LIKE ASSISTED LISTENING DEVICES, PROJECTORS, SPEAKERS SO THAT EVERYONE CAN PARTICIPATE IN PROGRAMS. SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN BACK OVER TO NANCY TO TALK TO THE SCHEDULE.

SO IN TERMS OF NEXT STEP AND TIMELINE, UH, THIS WAS A KEY PART OF OUR NEXT STEP TO BE HERE TODAY TO, UH, PRESENTING YOU AS, UH, THE ADVISORY COMMISSION ON AGING.

UM, BUT WE'RE REALLY GRATEFUL THAT YOU HAD US HERE TODAY TO SHARE THIS INFORMATION.

UM, WE ALSO WANNA CONTINUE MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY WHERE THEY'RE AT TO, UH, TO CONTINUE, UH, TO UPDATE THEM ON PROGRAMS. I CONTINUE GATHERING THAT FEEDBACK.

SO, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, UH, NOW, MEETING PEOPLE WHERE THEY'RE AT, MEETING MEANING THAT WE'RE MEETING THEM AT LOCATIONS WHERE, UM, COMMUNITY ARE ALREADY GATHERED.

UM, AND THEN, UH, WE ALSO PLAN ON FUTURE PRESENTATIONS TO THE CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMISSION ON DISABILITY, AS WELL AS PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION AND EVENTUALLY CITY FALL.

UM, AND SO TOWARDS THE END OF 2024 THROUGH LAST YEAR, WEEK BEEN MOON FOCUS ON OUTREACH AND THEN PLANNING FOR THE DESIGN PHASE AND THE PROGRAMMATIC LAYOUT OF THE PHASE.

AND THEN THIS YEAR WE'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON DESIGN AND COMMITTEE.

SO THAT'S WHERE OUR INPUT IS CURRENTLY.

UM, SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT BACK TO YOU, UM, UH, CHAIR, UH, CLARK.

THANK YOU.

UM, UH, QUICK QUESTION.

UM, IT'S NOT TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

OH, I'M SORRY, PLEASE.

SHE LEFT OUT ONE QUICK QUESTION ON THE, YOU SAID THAT POLICE, UH, SECOND FLOOR IS RESERVE FOR .

THE FIRST FLOOR IS THE PEOPLE BALL, FIRST FLOOR, THIRD FLOOR.

SO ALL THE SENIOR PROGRAMS WILL BE ON THE FIRST FLOOR FIRST, YES.

AND THEN THE SECOND FLOOR E EVEN PART OF THE RAMP UP TO THE SECOND FLOOR WILL BE DEDICATED PARKING FOR THE SENIOR USERS.

AND WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER A HUNDRED PARKING STALLS.

UM, SO WE KNOW IN THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH, UM, PARKING WAS A REALLY BIG DEAL.

WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THAT A LOT.

IT'S, UM, IT, IT'S CAN BE HARD TO PARK HERE AND IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO WE'RE HOPING THAT WILL EASE SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS.

UH, QUESTION.

SO WHAT'S ON THE THIRD FLOOR? THE THIRD FLOOR IS GOING TO BE, UH, POLICE, UH, THE LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE ON OFFICE SPACE.

OH, OKAY.

SO THOSE BE THE SAME BUILDING? YEAH.

HOW MANY ARE ON EACH FLOOR? ? UH, I, I DON'T KNOW.

I'M NOT PERSONALLY WORKING ON THE OTHER FLOOR, BUT I KNOW THE FIRST FLOOR IT WILL HAVE, UM, MULTI STALL RESTROOMS ON BOTH THE SOUTH SIDE AND THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

MULTI STALL? YES.

TWO BULK STALL ON EACH WING? YES.

AND THEN SO SINGLE STALL FOR EACH WING? YES.

AND THEN SEPARATELY STAFF WILL HAVE, UH, STAFF RESTROOMS, SO THEY'RE NOT USING THE RESTROOMS, THE UNISEX.

SO THE UNISEX RESTROOMS ARE, WILL BE DESIGNED IN CASE SOMEONE HAS A CARETAKER THAT NEEDS TO HAVE ASSISTANCE TO USE THE RESTROOM.

THEN THEY CAN GO IN THAT PRIVATE SINGLE UNISEX STALL.

UH, BUT THEN SENIORS WILL HAVE, OTHER SENIOR USERS WILL HAVE THE OPTION OF USING THE MUL, THE MULTI STALL RESTROOMS AS WELL.

THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A SEPARATE, IT'S ALL UNISEX? UH, NO.

OH, OKAY.

SO, SO THE MULTI STALL RESTROOMS WILL BE SEPARATED BY, UH, ECT AND THEN THE, THE ONE SINGLE USE RESTROOMS WILL BE .

OKAY.

LET'S, OKAY.

THINK I, OKAY.

THAT'S IT.

COMMISSIONER, ANY QUESTIONS FOR KAVANAUGH? COMMISSIONER KAVANAUGH, PLEASE.

UH, HI.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

I'M LOOKING AT THE PROJECT BACKGROUND.

I SEE ON THE FIRST GEORGIA, THE LONG BEACH POLICE DEPART.

THEY CURRENTLY THERE, ARE THEY GOING TO P HERE? GREAT QUESTION.

SO CURRENTLY THE BUILDING IS VACANT.

UM, WE, WE DO HAVE 24 HOUR SECURITY SERVICES THERE.

UH, KEEPING AN EYE ON THE BUILDING, BUT IT'S CURRENTLY VACANT.

UM, BUT THEY WILL BE MOVING THERE.

ALRIGHT, GOOD.

BECAUSE MY OTHER CONCERN GUYS, AMAZING PLAN AND GREAT LAYOUT, BUT

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SECURITY AND THAT AREA, THERE'S A LOT OF UNHOUSED.

AND I RECENTLY, UM, USED THE PUBLIC LIBRARY THERE ON AND BECAUSE MY INTERNET MONEY AND I HAD TO GO TO THE LIBRARY, I, YOU KNOW, THERE, WE, WE KNOW THE SITUATION.

SO THIS IS AN AMAZING FACILITY UNDERSTATEMENT, BUT I WAS JUST CONCERNED ABOUT SECURITY AND THINGS BEING MANAGED, UH, FOR SAFETY.

YES.

UM, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KAVANAUGH.

I THINK THAT'S A REALLY EXCELLENT POINT.

WE HEARD THAT A LOT, UM, DURING THE OUTREACH FOR THIS PROJECT.

AND I THINK THOSE ARE STILL QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED PROGRAMMATICALLY, BUT FROM A DESIGN STANDPOINT, WE ARE LOOKING AT THOSE THINGS.

HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE MAKE THIS SPACE SAFER FROM A DESIGN PERSPECTIVE? UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT CURRENTLY THE EXTERIOR OF, OF THIS BUILDING ON THE FIRST LEVEL HAS A LOW FENCE, BUT WE THINK WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT AND MAKE IT MORE SECURE SO THAT OUR SENIORS FEEL SAFER.

UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT SIDEWALKS, UH, TO, UM, HOW DO WE ADDRESS TRIP HAZARDS SO PEOPLE CAN GET SAFELY IN.

WE ARE MOVING THE BUS STOP, UH, FROM THE ONE BLOCK NORTH TO THE FRONT OF THIS BUILDING SO PEOPLE CAN GET OUT IN QUICKLY AS WELL AS THE LOADING ZONE.

UM, THERE IS A DRIVEWAY TO THE PARKING.

SO EVEN FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW DO WE MAKE IT SAFE FOR PEDESTRIANS CROSSING, UH, IN FRONT OF THAT DRIVEWAY.

SO THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, FROM A DESIGN PERSPECTIVE.

AND I THINK THERE'S ALSO STILL A LOT OF PROGRAMMATIC DISCUSSIONS THAT HE'LL THESE ABOUT SAFETY.

UM, SO WE DEFINITELY HAVE THAT IN LEARNING INSIDE.

I I, I APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT BECAUSE IT TOUCHES ON A LOT OF WHAT WE'VE HEARD ALREADY.

SO THE, UH, OUR DATE THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ACTUALLY OPEN UP IS, WE'RE LOOKING RIGHT NOW AT SOME TIME IN 2028.

2028.

IT IS OUR TARGET.

WE HAVE A LONG PROCESS TO GO STILL.

UM, IT'S MOST LIKELY THAT LONG BEACH POLICE OFFICES WILL MOVE IN THERE FIRST AND THEN PERHAPS UTIL LONG BEACH UTILITIES ABOVE THAT.

UM, SO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL, WE'RE WORKING AS A CITY ON DIFFERENT LAYERS OF THIS PROJECT AND WE JUST THINK THAT THE SENIOR CENTER WILL BE THE LAST ONE.

COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT, DID I MISS SOMETHING ABOUT SERVICE CAFETERIA.

SO THERE WILL BE A, A, A KITCHEN THAT WILL, UM, CONTINUE TO PROVIDE MEAL SERVICES AND IT'S, UM, I CAN SHOW YOU ON THE FLOOR PLAN.

UM, IT'S STRATEGICALLY LOCATED I DOOR SIDE, YEAH.

MIX IT.

YEAH.

CAN'T REALLY SEE THE POINT HERE, BUT I'LL POINT TO IT.

SO THE KITCHEN IS LOCATED HERE, SO IT'S CONVENIENTLY LOCATED NEXT TO THE AUDITORIUM.

AND THEN I, I KNOW ONE OF THE COUNSELORS BEING HEARD IS SOMETIMES THERE IS MUSIC PLAYING IN THE AUDITORIUM AND SOME PEOPLE PREFER MORE QUIET AREAS.

SO WE HAVE CAFE STYLE SEATING JUST OUTSIDE THE AUDITORIUM FOR A QUIETER SPACE, UM, NEXT TO THE KITCHEN AS WELL, SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE REAL SERVICES.

SOME OF THE DO .

YES.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONERS.

ANY, ANY OTHER, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT WE'RE PROBABLY THE LAST GENERATION THAT USED THE POST OFFICE AND PEOPLE STILL WRITE LETTERS AND GET PACKAGES.

IS THERE ANY, UH, TO GIVE THAT HAVE ALATION FOR A MINI POST OFFICE? UH, NO, NOT POSSIBLY AS A POST OFFICE.

I, I THINK THAT COMES WITH A WHOLE OF OTHER THINGS BECAUSE THAT IS A FEDERAL OFFICE, SO IT, IT IS A LITTLE COMPLICATED.

AND WE'RE, WE'RE A LOCAL LOCAL AGENT, PLEASE.

UM, SO WE DON'T ANTICIPATE COORDINATING FOR A FEDERAL OFFICE TO BE LOCATED HERE.

UH, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY THE DISTANCE TO WE, WE DO HAVE THE DOWNTOWN, UH, POST OFFICE ON VERY LONG.

IT'S REALLY LARGE HANDICAP PEOPLE TO ACCESS DEPENDING THE GENERAL , BUT JUST THINKING A SMALL IS A POSSIBILITY.

UM, WERE YOU MORE TO LIKE PURCHASES OR, OR MAIL RECEIVE PACKAGES HAVE SEVEN PO? UM, I THINK SO.

A MAILBOX PLUS,

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OH, SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR THAT.

A MAILBOX PLUS.

YEAH, A FREE STANDING.

YEAH.

UH, MAY HAVE COPY MACHINES IN IT.

IT MAY HAVE OTHER SERVICES AVAILABLE TO SENIORS WHO WANNA GO IN AND GET, GET MAIL AND SEND THINGS OUT, WHETHER IT'S UU POSTAL SERVICE OR UPS OR FEDEX OR WHATEVER.

THOSE MAILBOX PLUS STORES OFTEN HAVE A WIDE VARIETY OF SERVICES AVAILABLE.

SO SOMETHING .

OKAY.

NO, THANK YOU.

UH, WE APPRECIATE THAT.

YEAH, WE, WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE PLANS TO HAVE ANY PRIVATE ENTERPRISES IN THIS FACILITY, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE BACK A SWEEP THAT WE DO.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? THIS IS FOR THE DESIGN TEAM.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

IT'S VERY HELPFUL.

UM, HAVE YOU DESIGNED A SENIOR CENTER IN THE PAST? IS THIS YOUR FIRST ONE? THIS IS OUR OFFICE'S FOR SENIOR CENTER, GY.

WE'VE BEEN SENIOR HOUSING IN THE PAST.

UM, WE HAVE A LOT BACK ON COMMERCIAL 10 AND INTERIORS AND VARIOUS SIDES, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST SENIOR SERGEANT.

AND IN TERMS OF EQUIPMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, GYM OR DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW IF THE CURRENT EQUIPMENT WILL BE TRANSFERRED OVER OR CAN THEY EXPECT NEW EQUIPMENT, NEW TABLES, SEATING THROUGHOUT THE OTHER ROOMS? UM, THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE STILL HAVING.

I KNOW OUR DESIRE IS TO PROVIDE ALL NEW GYM EQUIPMENT BECAUSE, UM, WHENEVER, JUST AS A GENERAL RULE, WHENEVER WE'RE MOVING AND DESIGNING A NEW FACILITY, WE DON'T WANNA TAKE OLD THINGS WITH US.

UM, OF COURSE WE DO HAVE A BUDGET GAP THAT, UM, SHARED WITH YOU OR THE, UH, IN THE PRESENTATION.

SO ALL THOSE THINGS ARE GONNA BE CONSIDERED, BUT OUR DESIRE IS ABSOLUTELY TO GIVE YOU NEW EQUIPMENT.

UM, BUT THAT ARE, THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT, UM, ARE GOING, GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE HAD AS WE GET FURTHER INTO THE TIME.

UM, BUT WE HOPE TO , WE REALLY HOPE TO DELIVER YOU SOME.

NICE, JIMMY, THANK YOU ERS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT YOU? ? COMMISSIONER HAW, GO AHEAD.

AHEAD.

NO, YOU GO AHEAD.

COMMISSIONER HINS, YOU COMMISSIONER HOS.

UM, WELL THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND WE HAVE A LOT OF, UM, WORK WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH TO FIND OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING.

MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS, UH, SEVERAL, MY WIFES TO GO TO BUFFET.

I LOVE THAT STABILITY.

I LIVE AROUND THERE.

THEY BOUGHT THE FIRST GEN AND ALL, AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT IT'S GONNA BE RIGHT THERE, LITERALLY SEVERAL HUNDRED YARDS FROM THE TRAIN, FIRST STREET TRAIN STOP.

UM, I WAS JUST CURIOUS WITH $10 MILLION GAP, UM, WAS THERE ANYWHERE ELSE THE POLICE THAT NO CITY OFFICERS COULD BE AND LET US HAVE THAT ENTIRE BOAT.

LIKE WE HAVE THE SENIOR SITTING HERE, THAT'S SEVERAL.

IT'S HUGE.

EVEN IF THE ROOFTOP PARKING COULD HAVE BEEN COVERED.

SO WE COULD HAVE OUTDOOR SPACE EVEN WITHIN THE SAME STRUCTURE WHERE THE CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH THE SENIOR CITIZENS AND WHATEVER CITY, OTHER OFFICERS, I'M CURIOUS, WHY COULDN'T THEY GO SOMEWHERE ELSE? NORTH, LONG BEACH, EAST SIDE, ANYWHERE ELSE? LET US HAVE A SENIOR BUILDING FOR SENIORS WITH SENIORS ABOUT SENIORS AND INCLUDING IN ONE BUILDING FOR THE SENIORS.

THAT'S MY ONE QUESTION.

SECOND IS, I DIDN'T SEE WHERE THE LITTLE STORE IS.

THAT'S DOWNSTAIRS.

WE HAVE A STORE.

WHERE'S THAT, UH, LOCATED AND WHERE'S, IS THERE SOME KIND OF BUSINESS CENTER OR TECH CENTER FOR COMPUTERS? I DIDN'T SEE A COMPUTER LAB OR ANYTHING IN HERE EITHER.

SO IT'S SOMEWHERE IN THERE.

I DON'T SEE COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY OR THE LITTLE STORE THAT'S OH, OKAY.

THE TECH LAB.

AND THEN WE SEND THE LITTLE STORE SOMEWHERE, DON THAT.

SO THE LITTLE STORE, WE DON'T, UM, EXACTLY HAVE THAT LAID OUT ON HERE.

UM, BUT WE'VE CREATED ENOUGH SPACE FOR THIS, FOR ALL THE CURRENT PROGRAMS TO GO INTO NEW SENIOR CENTER.

SO WE HAVE A LOT OF FLEXIBLE USE SPACE.

UM, SO YEAH, OUR INTENT FROM A DEFINED PERSPECTIVE, MAKE SURE THAT WHAT YOU HAVE HERE TODAY COULD GO TO NEW SENIOR CENTER, RIGHT? SO THE EMPHASIS WILL BE ON PUBLIC, UM, USING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, YOU KNOW, THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AND WE HAVE 100 SPACES FOR PARKING, BUT WE ACTUALLY HAVE A HUNDRED SENIORS THAT WILL BE DOING THAT IF THEY CAN JUST GET OFF THE TRAIN RIGHT THERE AND THE TWO BUSES.

AND WE ARE FOCUSING PEOPLE TO TRY TO USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

WELL, A HUNDRED SENIORS ON A DAILY BASIS OR A REGULAR BASIS USE A HUNDRED SPACES.

WILL THAT BE NECESSARY OR NOT? IF YOU WANT EVERYBODY TO START BEING ENVIRONMENTALLY CONSCIOUS ABOUT TRANSPORTATION.

OKAY, SO STARTING WITH,

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UH, LET'S SEE, THE FIRST, SO 10 MILLION, JUST ROUGHLY $10 MILLION IS, IS WHAT WE HAVE FOR THE PROJECT.

IT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T REPRESENT OUR, UM, GAP.

WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THOSE NUMBERS.

UM, BUT UM, I THINK IN TERMS OF, UM, LONG BEACH PD, FOR EXAMPLE, GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE, THOSE ARE UNFORTUNATELY DECISIONS IN THAT WE'RE AT A MADE AT A HIGHER LEVEL.

UH, WE DID SPECIFICALLY DECIDE WHAT USES WOULD GO ON THE OTHER STORIES.

UM, SO YEAH.

AND ACTUALLY THAT PROJECT IS CURRENTLY OUT TO BID INSTRUCTION CONTRACTS.

SO YEAH, I, WE WE DON'T HAVE ABILITY TO KEEP, I WASN'T EXPECTING YOU TO HAVE AN ANSWER, WAS RHETORICAL QUESTION, BUT MY QUESTION NOW IS IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU SAID CITY OFFICERS AND THEN THE POLICE ARE GOING IN AND THEN THE SENIORS ARE GOING IN LAST WHEN IT WAS BUILT, THE, THE SENIOR BUILDING THAT TO MOVE FROM HERE.

OH, BUT THEY'RE GOING IN FIRST AND THEN THE CITY OFFICERS ARE GOING IN.

OH YEAH.

IF THAT'S WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY CORRECTLY.

AND THEN THE SENIOR CENTER.

YEAH.

SO WE'LL BE HERE THE 2028, BUT THEY'LL BE GOING IN THERE FIRST.

YES, YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

AND, AND I DID WANNA ADDRESS THE PARKING.

WE HAVEN'T STUDIED THE PARKING DEMAND.

UM, WHAT WE DO KNOW FROM THE HERE FEEDBACK IS THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SPACES, BUT, UM, I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT PEOPLE WILL USE PUBLIC TRANSIT.

UM, I, I PERSONALLY ENJOY PUBLIC TRANSIT.

I STILL ENJOY RIDING MY BIKE TO PLACES.

SO A A ABSOLUTELY, JUST FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL PERSPECTIVE, I HOPE THAT PEOPLE CHOOSE TO GET THERE THROUGH, UM, MORE SUSTAINABLE MEETINGS.

BUT WE'LL DEFINITELY HAVE THE OPTIONS THERE FOR PEOPLE TO DECIDE WHAT WORKS BEST FOR THEIR INDIVIDUAL.

I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THE, UH, LONG BEACH TRANSIT NUMBER 1 51, WHICH IS RIGHT OUTSIDE, IT WILL GO AND IT WILL TURN RIGHT THERE ON ELM.

AND FIRST IT'S A STOP RIGHT THERE FROM 1 51 FROM RIGHT HERE.

SO PEOPLE WILL BE, IF WE DIRECT THEM, THEY CAN LITERALLY GET FROM WHERE THEY ARE NOW, WALKING ACROSS THE STREET, GET ON THE 1 51 GOING TO DOWNTOWN, AND THEY WOULD LITERALLY LET WALK RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE NEW SENIOR CENTER RIGHT THERE AT THE FACILITY.

BUT ONCE A MONTH, EVERYBODY EXCUSE PICKS UP THEIR FOOD.

I, EXCUSE ME.

SO, UM, THE OTHER THING IS, I'M NOT SURE, DID WE TALK ANYTHING ABOUT, UM, OUTSIDE, UH, LEASING OPPORTUNITIES LIKE MAYBE DR.

THE BOTTOM BARREL BOX PLACE? IS THERE ANY KIND OF WAY THAT WE COULD HAVE SOME, MAYBE A FLOOR COMPANY, ANYTHING THAT COULD BE, UM, SUSTAINABLE, BUT KIND OF FUN.

BUT LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT USED TO COME INTO THE HAIRCUTS, LIKE A LITTLE BARBER, THEY HAD THE LITTLE BARBER SHOP AND THEY WOULD COME AND DO HAIRCUTS FOR SENIORS ANYWHERE.

WE COULD HAVE SOMEONE JUST TO COME IN AND PROVIDE SERVICES FROM THE OUTSIDE THAT WEREN'T PERMANENT, BUT THEY CAN JUST ACTUALLY HAVE THAT, LIKE THEY HAD A, A BEAUTY SALON, THEY HAD HAIRCUTS, THEY HAVE THE TAX PREPARATION PEOPLE.

SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT OUTSIDE ENTITIES COULD COME ON THE CONTINUAL BASIS AS NEEDED AND THEY SCHEDULE IT SO THEY CAN LEASE THE ROOMS AND HAVE IT IN THE SENIOR CENTER, IS THERE SOMETHING LIKE THAT? UM, YES.

SO, UH, ONE OF THE DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS WAS HAVING FLEXIBLE USE SPACES THAT CAN BE PROGRAMMED FOR DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S TRACK, TRACK PREPARATION SERVICES PART OF THE YEAR, SO WE WANTED TO HAVE THOSE SPACES AVAILABLE WHERE DIFFERENT TYPES OF, UH, ORGANIZATION SERVICES, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE THINGS I THINK ARE ALL ON THE TABLE FROM A PROGRAMMATIC STANDPOINT.

THANK YOU.

UM, I REALIZED THAT THERE ARE STREAM LIMITATIONS WITH A NORTH AND A SOUTH CAMPUS.

UM, SO PEOPLE MAY GO TRY TO ACCESS SOMETHING IN ONE BUILDING AND THEY'LL REDIRECT IT TO THE OTHER BUILDING AND, AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

SO WE'LL, UM, WILL THERE BE GOOD SIGNAGE, UH, BUILT INTO THE WHOLE THING SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW, OH, UH, IF I WANT TO GO TO THE GYM, I NEED TO GO TO THE THAT BUILDING AND NOT THIS BUILDING.

UM, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS JUST TO HELP PEOPLE, UH, WITH THEIR ORIENTATION TO WHATEVER THEY'RE, UH, TRYING TO ATTEND OR, OR WHAT SERVICES THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.

SO WE HAVE NOT DESIGNED THAT YET, BUT WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT.

UM, SO WE DO HAVE THAT IN MIND AT THIS EARLY STAGE THAT, UH, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WAYS THAT PEOPLE CAN VERY EASILY NAVIGATE TO THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.

UM, SO, SO YEAH, IT IS PART OF OUR ONGOING DISCUSSIONS.

HOW, HOW DO WE MAKE THAT WORK AND HOW DO WE MAKE IT EASY TO GET AROUND, ESPECIALLY WITH THE, THE DRIVEWAY IN BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS.

IT'S, IT'S, I KNOW YOU'RE, YOU'VE GOT A REAL CHALLENGE AHEAD OF YOU,

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BUT, UM, THAT KIND OF EASE TO THE EASY ACCESS IN MORE WAYS THAN JUST UBA, BUT JUST BEING ABLE TO GET INTO THE RIGHT BUILDING AT THE RIGHT TIME IS, IS KEY.

YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT POINT.

AND I CAN TELL YOU THIS TEAM WAS ADAMANT THEY WANTED TO FIND A WAY THROUGH, BUT YOU KNOW, WE TALKED THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER AND THEY'RE LIKE, HOW CAN WE MAKE THIS HAPPEN? BUT UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE OF THAT DRIVEWAY, WE, WE JUST COULDN'T FIND A PATH FORWARD.

BUT I THINK YOUR COMMENT IS, UM, SPOT ON.

WE, WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO WALK INTO DIFFERENT BUILDINGS AND GET CONFUSED.

UM, YEAH, YEAH.

SO ONE OF OUR MAIN CONSULTANTS IS A KIND OF A GRAPHIC DESIGN, UH, WAY FINDING, UM, COMPANY THAT IS LIKE, SORRY, ONE OF OUR MAIN CONSULTANTS IS A, A WAY FINDING GRAPHICS COMPANY THAT'S GONNA REALLY FOCUS ON SIGNAGE AND MAKING IT VERY CLEAR WHERE IN THE BUILDING THINGS ARE.

IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE'VE KIND OF PROGRAMED THE BUILDING THE WAY THAT WE HAVE, SO THAT THINGS ARE LOGICALLY SO HERE, COMING FROM ONE TYPE OF ACTIVITY OR AROUND ACTIVITIES OF THE OTHER SORT.

UM, AND THAT EXTENDS TO, FOR INSTANCE, THE SAFETY OF THE CROSSING, UH, ACROSS THE SIDEWALK.

HOW CAN WE MAKE THAT SAFER? IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT SINCE DAY ONE, WHETHER IT'S, UH, UM, GRAPHICS ON THE GROUND, UH, ALARMS, ARMS, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF THAT.

THANK YOU.

MR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I, I JUST ONE MORE QUESTION BEFORE WE, WE START HAVING PUBLIC COMMENT, SQUARE FOOTAGE, THIS PLACE, THAT PLACE.

SO, YES, GREAT QUESTION.

SO CURRENTLY THE, UH, THE USABLE SPACE HERE, UM, AT THE SENIOR CENTER IS 49,000 SQUARE FEET.

AND THE NEW SENIOR CENTER IS 39 SQUARE FEET.

SO IT'S 10,000 SQUARE FEET LESS THAN WE HAVE HERE NOW.

BUT, UM, THE WAY THAT WE'RE DESIGNING IT IS SO THAT YOU WON'T EVEN FEEL LIKE YOU'RE MISSING ANY ADDITIONAL SPACE BECAUSE THIS DESIGN, THIS FLOOR LAYOUT MAKES REALLY GOOD USE OF ALL THE SPACES AND ALSO PROVIDES THE FLEXIBILITY.

UM, AND I THINK PERSONALLY, ONE OF THE THINGS I REALLY APPRECIATE ABOUT THIS PLAN IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE VISITED OTHER SENIOR CENTERS AS PART OF OUR RESEARCH AND, UH, SOME SENIOR CENTERS HAVE AN AUDITORIUM AND THAT'S THE ONLY LARGE SPACE THAT THEY HAVE.

BUT HERE, WE'RE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE NOT JUST AN AUDITORIUM THAT CAN BE USED FOR MANY DIFFERENT PURPOSES, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THAT FITNESS MULTIPURPOSE SPACE, WHICH CAN ALSO BE PROGRAMMED VERY FLEXIBLY.

UM, SO OUR GOAL IS THAT ONCE WE MOVE INTO THAT NEW FACILITY, YOU'RE NOT EVEN GONNA NOTICE THAT THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL LESS SQUARE FOOTAGE BECAUSE ALL PROGRAMS ARE THERE, ALL THE SERVICES ARE THERE.

IT'S, IT'S NOT REALLY A PLUS, PLUS YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A BEAUTIFUL THIS SPACE.

UM, SO YEAH, WE'RE HOPING FOR VERY SEAMLESS EXPERIENCE WHEN THE TRANSITION HAPPENS.

ONE QUICK QUESTION IS THAT POPULAR THAT WE HAVE TO ADD ONE SINCE WE DON'T, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE HEARD, BUT WE, THAT DIDN'T COME FROM US, FROM WHAT WE HEARD FROM PEOPLE, BUT I WILL SAY THAT IS NOT EXCLUSIVELY PICKLEBALL.

THAT'S WHERE TAI CHI WILL HAPPEN.

THE EXERCISE CLASSES, UM, HERE GO BACK TO, UM, THESE ARE SOME OF THE POSSIBILITIES.

YOGA, UM, ZUMBA.

ZUMBA, YEAH.

SO IT, IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA BE EXCLUSIVELY PICKLEBALL, BUT IT'S LITTLE .

DO I FILL THESE OUT? GIVE IT, YEAH.

SO YOU WANNA MENTION THAT THERE'S STORAGE, UM, ALONG THE WALLS, THERE'S STORAGE WHERE YOU COULD TUCK AWAY THINGS AS WE BRING ON WITH OTHER ACTIVITIES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE PUBLIC.

ANY COMMENTS PLEASE? UH, ONCE A MONTH, A LARGE TRUCK COMES FROM ORANGE COUNTY WITH FOOD BOXES THIS BIG BY THIS BIG, BY THAT BIG FOR EACH OF THE PEOPLE.

AND THEY, AND THEY RUN THROUGH OUR PARKING.

THEY PARK IN OUR PARKING LOT NOW AND THEN, UM, OUR PEOPLE DRIVE THEIR CARS THROUGH.

UM, WE USE THE WHOLE PARKING LOT FOR THAT.

SO, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS, SIR? UM, WHAT THE, THE PARKING.

THANK YOU.

SHE'S, UH, HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE HERE AND HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE AT THE FACILITY.

YOU CAN, UH,

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STATE YOUR COMMENT.

YOU DO HAVE THREE MINUTES TO DO THAT, BUT IT IS NOT A FORUM FOR Q AND A DIALOGUE.

THANK YOU.

AND STANZA.

AND I COME HERE THREE, FOUR TIMES A WEEK.

AND MOSTLY WHAT I DO IS AND WHETHER OUR ARE GOING TO BE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, .

BUT WE CAN'T MAKE A COMMENT, BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ANYTHING ELSE? PARKING SITUATION? I THOUGHT YOUR REMARKS WERE VERY ASTUTE ABOUT DEPARTMENT AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

SO IT, THERE'S SOME WAY THAT IN THAT SPACE, BECAUSE YOU SAY THERE'S A HUNDRED PARKING SPACES ASSIGNED FOR THE NEW BUILDING AND THERE'S PROBABLY 25 HERE, I'M SURE OF THE NUMBER, BUT A FEW TIMES WHEN I THERE MY CAR, I'VE NEVER HAD A FINDING PARKING SPACE HERE EVEN TODAY, BUT I'M STILL REFLECT.

BUT ALSO, UM, I THINK THAT WHEN THE BUILDING GETS MOVED, YOU'RE GOING TO DRAW MORE PEOPLE FROM THE BUILDING.

STEP TOWN WILL BE WALKING.

AND I THINK YOUR COMMENT IS MR. ES YES.

YES, COMMISSIONER.

HE'S COMMENT ABOUT ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION WAS A REALLY GOOD ONE.

AND I THINK THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WHO COME HERE EITHER WALK OR DO USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

SO THEY'RE USED TO RIDING THE BUS AND AS YOU EXPLAIN, IF WE NEED A PROBLEM FOR THEM TO TAKE THE BUS, SO THERE'S, IF YOU COULD, IF THERE WERE 50 PARKING SPACES, I THINK THAT WOULD BE OVER AND ABOVE.

BUT THIS PARTICULAR SENIOR CENTER PLEASE, BECAUSE THIS IS A WALKING COMMUNICATING EVEN FOR THE YOUNGER SENIOR CITIZENS, 55 OR 50.

SO ANYWAY, THOSE ARE MY THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS SIR? HI, MY NAME IS AND I REPRESENT THE PICKLEBALL PLAYERS THAT PLAYED UP HERE.

THEY MISSED THIS PLACE AND THE AMAZING GAME AND EXPANDING WORLDWIDE UNITED STATES, OLDER PEOPLE, YOUNGER PEOPLE.

BY THE TIME YOU PLACE IS UP, IT'S GOING BE MY WHOLE , SO WE APPRECIATE THAT YOU GUYS ARE PUTTING ENERGY INTO HAVING THANK YOU SIR.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SORRY, EXPLAIN.

UM, I DON'T SEE ANY SPACE FOR THE GEMOLOGY GROUP AND THE WOOD CARTERS WHO ARE LONGTIME INSTITUTIONS HERE.

AND I DON'T SEAT SPACE FOR THE OUTSIDE GROUPS, BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BE INCORPORATED.

AND IT'S NOT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, IT IS THE CRIME LAB THAT'S GONNA BE IN THE BUILDING.

THERE'S A DIFFERENCE.

SO PEOPLE SHOULDN'T THINK THAT THE POLICE ARE GONNA BE THERE PROTECTING US.

AND THERE ARE OVER 500 PARKING SPACES AT THE NEW PLACE.

THREE FLOORS OF PARKING.

THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER? NO, THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS DORA JENKINS.

I'M FROM SANTA FE, NEW MEXICO, AND I'VE MOVED HERE, THE BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY I WAS BORN IN PACIFIC PALADE, AS YOU KNOW, IT HAS BURNED DOWN.

AND ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS NOW THAT WHATEVER YOU BUILD, THERE ARE SUFFICIENT WAYS TO GET LARGE GROUPS OF PEOPLE OUT, IS QUICKLY HIT HOP IN YOUR PLANS AND IN YOUR PLOT PLANS AND IN YOUR ARCHITECTURALS THAT THAT, THAT FINALLY HAS GONE OVER WITH A FINE TUNE TO HOME.

ARE WE PROVIDING ENOUGH SAFETY TO EXIT? THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

EVACUATION PLAN.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? UH, I'M INTERESTED AS FAR AS LIKE AT SILVERADO WE HAD A, UH, SEWING ROOM, BUT IT WAS TAKEN AWAY DURING AND THE SENIORS THERE NO LONGER HAVE ACCESS TO ANY OTHER ROOMS BESIDES THE MAIN ROOM.

AND THEY'VE ASKED A FEW TIMES, EVEN AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ASSOCI, WHY CAN'T WE HAVE OUR SEWING ROOM BACK? I'M WONDERING WHAT HAPPENS IN THIS FACILITY WITH ALL THESE SMALL ROOMS BROKEN UP WHEN WE'RE IN ANOTHER COVID ALSO, UM, CAN WE HAVE THE TYPE OF ART GALLERY, WALL SYSTEM WHERE THERE'S A TRACK AT THE TOP WITH, UM, PIECE OF THE WIRE THAT COME DOWN THAT WE CAN HOOK, UH, PAINTINGS ONTO COMPARED TO CONTINUALLY MAKING HOLES IN THE WALLS TO SHOW OUR DIFFERENT ART? WE USED TO HAVE THIS SYSTEM AT THE OLD DOWNTOWN MAIN LIBRARY THAT WAS DEMOLISHED.

AND IT WAS WONDERFUL BECAUSE MANY DIFFERENT

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ARTISTS WITH MANY DIFFERENT MEDIUMS COULD SHOW.

UM, WHEN WE DON'T DO THAT, WE TEND TO WANNA SAVE THE SAME NAIL IN THE SAME WALL.

AND THEN WE TEND TO SHOW THE SAME SIZE OF WORK AND THE SAME MEDIUM OF WORK SO THAT WE'RE NOT TEARING UP OUR WALLS.

SO THE ADDITION OF THAT TYPE OF SYSTEM WOULD MAKE MORE ARTISTS, INCLUDING FIBER ARTISTS BEING ABLE TO REGULARLY, UM, ROTATE ART.

AND THANK YOU FOR PUTTING SOMEPLACE CLOSER TO THE WEST SIDE.

, THANKS SO MUCH.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? I'M LOOKING, I'M LOOKING, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU MIGHT HAVE A COMMENT.

DID YOU HAVE COMMENT? OH, THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER TIA .

COMMISSIONER HEES.

COMMISSIONER KAVANAUGH.

COMMISSIONER KAVANAUGH.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT.

COMMISSIONER SUTHERLAND ACCEPT VICE SALCITO ACCEPT CHAIR CLARK.

MOTION IS CARRIED.

THANK YOU.

PLEASE MEET THE NEXT ITEM.

ITEM THREE, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE SUPERINTENDENT'S UPDATE ON DEPARTMENT BUSINESS.

UM, CAN I HAVE A, WHO WANTS TO MOVE THAT MOTION? I MOVE.

I SO MOVE.

SECOND.

THANK YOU.

SO COMMISSIONER CHEA.

COMMISSIONER GEL SECOND.

ALL RIGHT, WELL GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS AND PUBLIC.

UM, I WANNA THANK, UM, OUR PRESENTATION TODAY.

THAT WAS EXCITING TO HEAR SOME STUFF ABOUT THE NEW SENIOR CENTER.

UM, BUT A COUPLE THINGS I WANNA BRING UP IN MY REPORT IS THAT, UM, I KNOW LAST COMMISSION MEETING WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE MARKETING.

UM, AND I DON'T MEAN TO YELP, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE HEARS ME.

YEAH.

BUT, UM, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NO PROBLEM.

TRYING TO YOU CAN WAIT JUST A SECOND.

OKAY.

WHILE THEY CLEAR OUT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ROB.

SOMEBODY LEAVE THERE.

SHE'S OKAY, COOL.

WHILE THEY'RE CLEARING OUT, I DO HAVE QUESTION ROSA, DOES THE GET A COPY OF, OF THIS IF THEY'D LIKE IT? UH, YES MA'AM.

THAT'S ACTUALLY PUBLISHED ON THE WEBSITE.

IT IS AVAILABLE NOW FOR THE PUBLIC.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

DO YOU WANNA TELL THEM WHERE IT IS IN CASE SOMEONE WAS THAT WEBSITE? YES, IT IS ON OUR, UH, CITY OF LONG BEACH WEBSITE AND THEY COULD FIND IT, UH, SECOND.

SO, UH, THEY WILL GO TO LONG BEACH.GOV/CITY CLERK AND WE HAVE AGENDAS AND MINUTES ON THERE.

THEY'LL CLICK ON THAT, IT'LL TAKE 'EM TO ALL OUR MEETINGS.

AND THEY ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO ACCESS, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, ALL OUR MEETINGS ON THERE.

AND THAT, THAT PARTICULAR POWERPOINT IS NOW PUBLIC, NOW PUBLISHED FOR UH, A YES MA'AM.

HEIDI, PLEASE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

SO NO PROBLEM.

ALRIGHT, SO I WON'T HAVE TO YELL QUITE AS LOUD, HOPEFULLY.

UM, BUT JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THAT MARKETING.

I KNOW LAST MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT MARKETING AND HOW I GAVE YOU THAT OLD SAMPLE OF THE BROCHURE AND HOW TO JUST MARKET THE COMMISSION TO GET THE WORD OUT OF LIKE OUR COMMISSION MEETINGS AND HOW TO JOIN THE COMMISSION AND THEN WHAT WE DO AS A COMMISSION.

UM, SO I HAVE SENT THAT TO OUR GRAPHICS DEPARTMENT.

THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET ME A SAMPLE BACK THIS MONTH, BUT THEY SAID NEXT MONTH THEY'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ME WITH SOME SAMPLES.

SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT, UM, ACTUALLY IS AGENDA ITEM ON, UM, NEXT MONTH'S AGENDA SO WE CAN HAVE A FREE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE MARKETING.

SO I JUST WANNA GIVE YOU A LITTLE UPDATE ON THAT THAT I HAVEN'T FORGOT.

UM, WE JUST DIDN'T GET STUFF BACK ON THE MARKETING.

UM, AND THEN A COUPLE STUFF GOING ON IN OUR CENTERS.

UM, FOR THE MONTH OF APRIL, WE DO HAVE A NEW CLASS THAT'S STARTING, UM, HERE AT THE SENIOR CENTER.

IT'S DANCING THROUGH PARKINSON'S, WHICH IS KIND OF A, UM, IT'S THE FIRST ONE OF ITS KIND.

IT'S A, UM, ORGANIZATION THAT HAS, UM, BROUGHT IN THIS BASICALLY TO BLEND MOVEMENT, UM, THROUGH WHEN, WHETHER IT'S YOUR PERSON EXPERIENCING PARKINSON'S OR IT'S YOUR CARE TEAM, HOW TO CREATE MOVEMENT TO HELP WITH THE PARKINSON'S DIAGNOSIS.

SO THAT'S AN EXCITING CLASS THAT WE HAVE STARTING HERE IN APRIL.

UM, THAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE.

ANOTHER THING THAT'S EXCITING THIS WEEK AT OUR MCBRIDE, UM, PARK SENIOR CENTER, UM, WE HAVE OUR, THAT, THAT SENIOR CENTER IS A LARGE CA CAMBODIAN POPULATION

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THAT ATTEND THAT.

AND SO IT'S CAMBODIAN NEW YEAR'S, UM, EVENT ON FRIDAY FROM NINE TO THREE.

THEY HAVE, UM, THEY BRING OUT DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, THEY BLESS, UM, YOU KNOW, BLESSING OF THE CAMBODIAN NEW YEAR'S.

THEY HAVE FOOD, USUALLY THEY HAVE DANCING, THEY HAVE PRESENTATIONS GOING ON.

IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC EVENT, NINE TO THREE AT, UM, MCBRIDE PARK, UM, DURING OUR SENIOR PROGRAM TIME.

UM, SO THOSE TWO THINGS I JUST KIND OF WANNA HIGHLIGHT AS WELL AS OLLIE CLASSES.

SO OLLIE IS, UM, LIFELONG LEARNING INSTITUTE, AND IT'S AT CAL STATE LONG BEACH.

AND IT'S A, UM, UH, UH, ADULT LEARNING PROGRAM, UM, THAT DOES THEIR OWN SEMESTER, NOT ON THE COLLEGE SEMESTER, BUT IT'S OUT OF CAL STATE LONG BEACH.

UM, SO WE'VE REALLY WORKED HARD IN BUILDING A RELATIONSHIP WITH THEIR, UM, UM, PROGRAM AND INVITING THEM INTO OUR SPACES.

UM, SO I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT SENIOR CENTERS, UM, UH, THIS SEMESTER.

AND SO WE HAVE A CLASS AT HOW PARK, WE HAVE A COUPLE CLASSES AT HOW PARK, WE HAVE A COUPLE HERE AT THE SENIOR CENTER AND EL DORADO PARK, UM, UM, SENIOR PROGRAMMING SITE.

UM, SO WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO EXPAND THAT.

I'M GONNA TRY TO GET OLLIE TO COME OUT BECAUSE IT IS KIND OF, UM, WHERE YOU HAVE TO REGISTER FOR THE CLASSES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO I'M GONNA TRY TO GET THEM TO COME AND PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ON SPONSORSHIPS AND SCHOLARSHIPS TO THAT PROGRAM, SO TO MAKE SURE OUR, OUR PARTICIPANTS CAN ACTUALLY INTAKE IN PARTAKE IN THOSE CLASSES.

UM, SO THOSE ARE JUST THREE THINGS.

I DID GIVE YOU CALENDARS OF A LOT OF THE OTHER SITES AND PROGRAMS, SO HOPEFULLY MAYBE ON THERE YOU ARE ABLE TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR CENTERS AND HOPEFULLY COME TO SOME OF THEM.

AND WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT FOR THE DAY.

THANK YOU HEIDI.

MS. ANY QUESTIONS MR. ? UH, I'D JUST LIKE TO, UH, I MEAN, I'M GLAD WE'RE DOING THE OLLIE PARTNERSHIPS.

I THINK THAT HAS A LOT OF PROMISE FOR THE FUTURE.

AND I KNOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UM, INTERESTED IN SUBSIDIZING PEOPLE'S, BUT IF ANYBODY STILL WANTS TO REGISTER, THIS IS THE FIRST WEEK OF CLASSES YES.

FOR THE NEW OLLIE TERMS. SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WERE THINKING OF DOING IT, WE TOLD GO QUICKLY.

YEAH.

AND I HAVE, AND I'M, AND I WE'RE, I HAVE A MEETING WITH OLLIE THIS AFTERNOON, ACTUALLY.

OH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT A LOT OF THE MARKETING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO THE, THE HOPE IS TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON OUR ON, IN OUR PUBLICATION TOO, TO KIND OF HOW TO COMBINE THEM BOTH A LITTLE BETTER AND THEN, UM, YEAH, TRYING TO GET THEM OUT TO DO THE SCHOLARSHIPS AROUND THE TIME WHEN PEOPLE REGISTER.

SO WHEN THEY DON'T, WE DON'T MISS THE FIRST WEEK START WITH CLASSES, SO, BUT I, I SUSPECT THAT PEOPLE COULD ASK FOR IT IF THEY REGISTERED.

MM-HMM .

TRIED TO REGISTER.

I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THEY HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT AND THEY'VE GIVEN IT OUT.

BUT I WOULD, IF ANYBODY IS ALREADY ON THE VERGE OF JUMPING IN, I WOULD SAY DO IT AND TRY IT BEFORE WE GET THE FORMAL AGREEMENTS.

YEAH.

SO YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW TO MANY PERSON WANTING TO COME.

THEY JUST NEED TO REGISTER.

THANK YOU FOR THIS.

YEAH.

PAGE.

I PUT MY GLASSES ON.

YEAH.

AT THE, ON AGING.

YEAH.

THE PARK, UH, PROGRAM.

SO THEY, NOW THEY'RE AWARE OF WHERE WE ARE.

YEAH, WE'VE ACTUALLY, UM, THAT'S ONE REQUIRED NOW AT ALL OF OUR SENIOR PROGRAMMING SITES TO PUT, UM, SOMETHING ABOUT THE COMMISSION ON THEIR CALENDAR.

SO THEN THEIR, UM, PARTICIPANTS KNOW THAT WE HAVE THIS COMMISSION MEETING AND AS YOU KNOW, THE, IT'S CURRENTLY, THE LOCATION IS TODAY HERE, BUT WE ARE GONNA BE REMOVING AROUND TO THE DIFFERENT CENTERS TO ALSO INVOLVE, UM, THE PEOPLE WHO COME TO THEIR CENTERS, TO THE COMMISSION AS WELL.

SO I WAS NOTICING THE POINT HAD THAT WE WOULD WANT NEEDED HELP TODAY.

OH, WELL THEY MESSED UP.

SO HAVE THEY KNOWN MAYBE THAT MIGHT HAVE CAUSED SOME CONFUSION.

IF SOMEBODY'S LOOKING AT THIS AND THIS, MAYBE REACH OUT TO SILVERADO, SEE IF ANYBODY CAME THERE.

APOLOGIES THAT WE HAVE TO MOVE AT THE LAST MINUTE AFTER IF THIS WAS TRAINING PERFECT.

SO THAT WE CAN CALL THE COMMUNITY.

WE NOT JUST YANKING 'EM AROUND AND RUN AROUND FOR NO PARTICULAR BEACH.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

YOU ARE WELCOME.

THANK YOU, .

ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

NO COMMENTS.

CLERK COMMISSIONER.

CIA.

COMMISSIONER HEES.

COMMISSIONER KAVANAUGH.

COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT, COMMISSIONER SUTHERLAND COMMISSIONER CORRECTION, VICE CHAIR, SALCIDO AND CHAIR CLERK.

MOTION IS CARRIED.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

PLEASE CALL FOR THE, UH, THE NEXT ITEM, ITEM FOUR, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A REPORT FROM CURRENT AD HOC COMMITTEES.

DISCUSS ANTICIPATED AD HOC COMMITTEES FOR UPCOMING PROJECTS AND IF APPROPRIATE, TAKE ACTION TO DISSOLVE OR CREATE AD HOC COMMITTEES.

OKAY.

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CAN I HAVE A, A MOTION FOR THIS? I STILL MOVE.

THANK YOU.

UM, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I MEAN HAVE AD HOCS CHAIR CLARK? UH, IT'S, IT WAS MOVED BY COMMISSIONER CIA UHHUH .

IS THAT BY COMMISSIONER SMITH? THANK YOU.

NO DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM.

OKAY.

ANYTHING FROM THE PUBLIC.

CAN WE GET A, UM, A FOLLOW UP TO THE ONES THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY APPROVED FOR AD HOC? IS THAT WAS THE THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE I ASKED FOR.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

WHAT YOU LIST THOSE A THAT HAVE, DID I NOT GIVE IT TO YOU LAST MONTH AND FIND IT OR, YEAH, YEAH.

SO IT, I DID GIVE YOU THAT LIST LAST.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO IT HAS THE AD HOCS ON IT ALSO.

CHAIR CLARK.

I DO SEE ONE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.

SORRY, MS. OH, WELL I WAS GONNA SPEAK DURING PUBLIC CONFERENCE.

OKAY.

OH, OKAY.

WHEN YOU HAD CALLED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

OH, I'M SORRY, .

NO, NO WORRIES.

THANK YOU.

DID DID SHE WANT TO, MS SAI, DID YOU WANT TO, YOU DO HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

I JUST WANT TO UPDATE YOU ON SOME WHAT ISSUES WHAT, HOLD ON FOR A SECOND.

THAT'S NOT ON THE ITEM.

SHE DOES NOT WANNA SPEAK ON THE ITEM.

OH, I'M SO SORRY.

I, I UNDERSTOOD YOU WANTED TO SPEAK ON, ON THE, THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALRIGHT.

UM, I THINK THAT IS IT.

ARE WE DOWN TO PUBLIC COMMENT ANNOUNCEMENT? CLERK FOR ITEM JUST GENERAL PUBLIC? I HAVE, UH, NO, FOR ITEM FOUR WE WOULD NEED TO TAKE THE VOTE.

ALL.

ALL VOTE? YES MA'AM.

COMMISSIONER TCIA.

EXCEPT I'M NOT SURE WHAT AM I VOTING ON? IS THIS FOR ITEM FOUR? FOR THE AD HOC? OH, FOR DISCUSSING THE AD HOC? YES.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER HINES.

COMMISSIONER KAVANAUGH.

COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT.

COMMISSIONER SUTHERLAND.

AYE.

VICE CHAIR SALCITO A CHAIR CLARK.

AYE.

BUT UH, MY QUESTION IS, SINCE THE AD HOC NOBODY HAD ANYTHING TO REPORT, DID WE STILL NEED TO TAKE A VOTE? WE DO NEED TO TAKE A VOTE BECAUSE IT IS AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA AND MOTION IS CARRIED.

YES.

OKAY.

NOW, UM, IT'S TIME FOR PUBLIC GENERAL PUBLIC .

OKAY.

OKAY.

UM, I'M HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE EVACUATION CHAIRS, UM, IN OUR WORK WITH THE INDEPENDENT LIVING CENTERS, UM, A SENATOR GONZALEZ, NOT LENA, BUT ANOTHER SENATOR GONZALEZ HAS DEGREED TO CARE LEGISLATION REQUIRING EVACUATION CHAIRS AND SEE YOUR RESIDENTS THAT SUPPLY STORIES ARE BORN.

SO YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT THIS.

IT'S A HUGE WIN.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR FIVE YEARS.

UM, BUT A NEW ISSUE HAS COME UP, UM, WHICH IS BEING PUSHED BY THE AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF ARCHITECTS.

THERE'S A MOVEMENTS TO, UM, SPEED UP BUILDING REQUIRING OFFERING ONE EMERGENCY EVACUATION EXIT IN BUILDINGS THAT ARE GONNA BE BUILT IN THE FIRE RECOVERY IN LA.

AND IT'S BEING PUSHED AT THE STATE, THE FEDERAL AND THE COUNTY LEVEL SO FAR ON CULVER CITY AND PASADENA.

SEATTLE AND ONE OTHER CITY HAVE COST IT.

UM, THE PROBLEM IS LIKE MY, WHEN I EXPIRE IN MY BUILDING, ONE OF THE EXITS FILLED UP WITH TSI SMOKE.

THE OTHER EXIT PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO EXIT THE BUILDING WHILE THIS FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS TRYING TO CARRY THE HOSES UP THE OTHER STAIRWAY LIGHT FIRE.

SO IF THERE'S ONLY ONE STAIRWAY ON BUILDING CENTER OVER FIVE STORIES, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DIE.

SO WE ARE, UM, THE RECOUNTS ARE AGAINST THIS, THE LA COUNTY COMMISSION IS AGAINST THIS FIRE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION IS AGAINST THIS, SOME OF THE FIREFIGHTERS UNIONS.

SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE A LOT OF ACTIVITIES AROUND THIS.

WE'RE GONNA BE DOING PETITIONS.

UM, THIS IS BAD FOR SENIORS.

UM, THE SENIOR SAFE HOME IS NOT DEAD.

IT'S, IT'S STILL IN PROCESS.

IT JUST TAKES A LONG TIME.

AND THEN, UH, THE OTHER THING IS, LAST NIGHT AT CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY COUNCIL VOTED

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TO, UM, COME UP UP WITH A PROPOSAL TO RESTRICT SMOKE SHOPS.

AND WE HAVE A SMOKE SHOP RIGHT NEXT DOOR, RIGHT TO THE SENIOR CENTER.

AND, UM, THEY, THEY'RE ADDRESSING BUILDINGS THAT ARE NEAR SCHOOLS.

UM, SENIOR, UH, NURSING HOMES, SENIOR CENTERS.

AND I SUGGESTED THEY HAD A SENIOR BUILDINGS MM-HMM .

LAST NIGHT WHEN I LEFT.

UM, THE DRUG DEALERS WERE OUT THERE AGAIN, SO I'LL BRING THAT TO THE POLICE ATTENTION.

AND WE HAVE A NEW COMMANDER FOR THIS DISTRICT, UH, HE FIRST COMMUNITY MEETING LAST WEEK, AND HE WAS VERY INTERESTED IN ENGAGING WITH THE COMMUNITY.

SO I'M VERY COMMITTED TO OLDER ADULTS.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE.

ARE THERE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? COMMISSIONERS? WE HAVE TWO ANNOUNCEMENTS.

ONE, I WAS THINKING IT MIGHT BE NICE IF WE DID SOMETHING THE WAY OF AN ORIENTATION FOR OUR NEW MEMBERS OF OUR COMMISSION, AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE TAKING THEM TO THE DIFFERENT SENIOR CENTERS.

UH, AND COMMISSIONER, HE RECOMMENDED TAKING THEM BY BUS, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

BUT THAT WAS A REALLY BRILLIANT IDEA BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE, A LOT OF THE COMMISSION IS JUST GETTING ON MY CAR AND DON'T USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, WHICH IS SOMETHING .

AND THE OTHER THING, UM, IT WOULD ALSO BE THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT INFORM DOES IN THE WAY OF AN ORIENTATION.

NOT ONLY SHOWING THEM THE SENIOR CENTERS, BUT TELLING THEM A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT OUR JOB IS HERE OR WHAT OUR JOB SHOULD BE HERE ANYWAY.

UM, AND THE OTHER ANNOUNCEMENT I WANTED TO MAKE IS THAT I WAS WORKING ON A, A PIECE TO, UM, TO TELL A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THE SENIOR CENTER, WHAT THE, UH, COMMISSION DOES AND IT'S BEING DONE BY, AND I NEW, WROTE A FEW THE PAGES I'M GONNA GIVE TO GIVE TO GRAPHICS AND READ MY HANDWRITING.

OTHERWISE WE GET THAT ONE.

.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THAT ANNOUNCEMENT.

UM, I THINK THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER SMITH WOULD LIKE THAT ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA NEXT MONTH FOR THE ORIENTATION.

FOR THE ORIENTATION FOR NEW COMMISSIONERS.

OKAY.

FOR THIS COMMISSION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

CLARIFICATION.

WHO WOULD WHO? THE NEW COMMISSIONERS? UM, ANY OF THOSE WHO CAME AS THEY AS, YEAH.

AS THEY COME ON.

AS THEY COME ON.

SO MARY COULD, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE ONE INITIAL ONE AND ANYBODY CAN, CAN JOIN IN THAT, THAT DAY.

GOOD.

GOOD.

SO WE'LL HAVE THAT ON THE AGENDA NEXT MONTH.

THANK YOU.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I SAY I HAVE ONE AND I MET A YOUNG LADY THAT CALLED ME BECAUSE SHE BOUGHT A PROPERTY IN, UH, THE LITTLEMORE DISTRICT.

IT'S A 12 ROOM HOUSE.

SHE'S LOOKING TO DO TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.

SHE WANTED TO USE WOMEN WHO WERE EITHER VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND OR TRANSITIONING VETERANS.

AND I OFFERED HER THE OPTION TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING FOR A SENIOR SAFE HOUSE.

AND SHE SAID, THAT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE SHE WANTS TO DO SOMETHING.

AND SHE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY ON THE CORON, OBVIOUS SAID SOME CEDAR, AND IT'S AN AMAZING PROPERTY.

UM, SO WE TO TRY TO CONNECT HER WITH WHAT WE WERE ALREADY DOING WITH THE SENIOR STATE HOUSE PROJECT.

SHE JUST MAY BE INTERESTED IN THAT, THAT AS A WAY OF HAVING SOME PLACE ON SENIORS WHEN WE DISPLACEMENT IN OUR AS A SENIOR SAFE HOUSE.

SO YOU MIGHT HAVE A PLACE TO GO.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER.

ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? YES.

WELL, THIS IS JUST A KIND OF A UPDATE.

WHEN I, WHEN I WAS, UM, IN CARLSBAD LAST, I WAS READING THE LOCAL NEWSPAPER AND THEY HAD ESTABLISHED A DATA DASHBOARD, UH, UH, FOR SENIORS ON THE CITY WEBSITE.

AND THAT ALERTED ME TO THE FACT THAT WE, THAT WAS AN IDEA.

WE HAD A WHILE BACK, I HAD A WHILE BACK.

AND THEN I JUST DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO PURSUE IT.

AND IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE IT WAS REALLY HIGH PRIORITY, BUT I THOUGHT I WOULD TRY TO FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT IT AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION AND SERIES, WANTED TO TAKE IT UP AGAIN AND IF THERE WAS A, MAYBE WORKING WITH THE UNIVERSITY OR MAYBE, MAYBE THERE'S SOMEBODY AT THE CITY, I JUST DIDN'T REALLY EVER KNOW WHERE TO GO WITH THE IDEA TO TRY TO FIND OUT IF IT WAS OUT THERE.

THANK YOU, CLARK.

DO WE NEED TO,

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UM, PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MONTH? OR, OR DEB, SUSAN ANNOUNCED, WELL, IF SHE WANTED TO TALK MORE ABOUT IT, YEAH, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE AGENDA ITEM.

OKAY.

SO JUST PUT IT ON HERE AND WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN FIND OUT.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

GREAT.

EXCELLENT.

WELL, SO NO MORE ANNOUNCEMENTS AND IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'D LIKE TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT 11:15 AM THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING.

THANK YOU.