* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [CALL TO ORDER] [00:02:41] THE TIME IS 3 0 4. COMMISSIONER [ROLL CALL] GILLETTE. HERE. COMMISSIONER GILL. COMMISSIONER EATON. COMMISSIONER D BEES. HERE. COMMISSIONER VE HERE. VICE CHAIR COLEMAN. PRESENT, CHAIR P*****K. HERE WE HAVE QUORUM. UH, FIRST AGENDA ITEM RECOMMENDATION [1. 26-55093 Recommendation to approve the minutes for the Ethics Commission meeting of Wednesday, April 8, 2026.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE ETHICS COMMISSION MEETING OF WEDNESDAY, APRIL 8TH, 2026. I HAVE A NEED A MOTION. I HAVE A MOTION FROM VICE CHAIR COLEMAN. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILL. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, UM, GIVEN THAT THERE'S NO ONE IN CHAMBERS, DO I STILL CALL FOR PUBLIC CON? OKAY. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS MATTER? SEEING NONE. CAN WE MOVE TO A VOTE? MOTION CARRIES AGENDA ITEM [2. 26-55094 Recommendation to receive and file an update on the proposed Framework for Accountability, Integrity, and Reporting (FAIR) Act.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] NUMBER TWO, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE AND UPDATE ON THE PROPOSED FRAMEWORK FOR ACCOUNTABILITY, INTEGRITY, AND REPORTING THE FAIR ACT. I HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER DE BENEDICTUS, SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR COLEMAN. UM, AND I GUESS I AM REPORTING, UM, . SO, UH, I APPEARED AT THE GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS AND EFFICIENCY COMMITTEE MEETING ON APRIL 21ST, 2026. I WANNA THANK COMMISSIONER NOVE FOR COMING TO THE MEETING FOR SUPPORT. UM, THE CITY STAFF SUBMITTED WRITTEN COMMENTS AND, UH, SPOKE TO THOSE COMMENTS BRIEFLY. UM, THEY SUMMARIZED THE FAIR ACT, UH, PROVIDED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING THE SOURCE OF THE CONTACT LOBBYIST AND ENTERPRISE OR GRASSROOTS LOBBYIST DEFINITIONS DISCUSSED THE NON-PROFIT EXEMPTION, [00:05:02] CALENDARING AND DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS, CONFLICTS OF INTEREST AND ENFORCEMENT. UM, THE GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS AND EFFICIENCY COMMITTEE VOTED TO RECOMMEND THE REQUIREMENT FOR DISCLOSURE OF CALENDARS FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE FULL COUNCIL, AND THEN THEY MOVED TO SCHEDULE A STUDY SESSION OF THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE FULL FAIR ACT. SO THAT'S HOW IT WAS REPORTED OUT OF THE GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS AND EFFICIENCY COMMITTEE. UM, I THEN SCHEDULED A MEETING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER CHRISTINA DUGGAN, WHO IS THE CHAIR OF THE GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS AND EFFICIENCY COMMITTEE, AND HER CHIEF OF STAFF, WHICH WAS HELD ON MAY 7TH. AND CITY ATTORNEY MILLICENT, UH, ATTENDED THAT MEETING WITH ME. ME, I PROVIDED COPIES OF TWO DOCUMENTS. ONE WAS THE CITY MANAGER'S MARKUP OF THE ETHICS COMMISSION PROPOSAL, WHICH I BELIEVE DEMONSTRATES THE EXTENT TO WHICH THE FAIR ACT IS BASED UPON THE WORK OF THE ETHICS COMMISSION. AND IT MAKES IT EASY TO SEE WHERE THE GREATEST CHALLENGES FOR IMPLEMENTATION EXIST. I ALSO PROVIDED A COPY OF THE POLICY COMMITTEE'S SUMMARY OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO EXISTING REQUIREMENTS THAT WAS INCLUDED WHEN THE EGA, THE ETHICS AND GOOD GOVERNMENT ACT WAS PRESENTED BY THE ETHICS TO THE, TO THE FINAL, UH, REVIEW BY THE ETHICS COMMISSION. I BELIEVE THAT THAT MEMO PROVIDES A GOOD, UH, SHORTER DOCUMENT TO USE BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN A STUDY SESSION. SO FAR MOST OF THE ATTENTION IN THE CITY COUNCIL WHERE THEY CONSIDERED THE FAIR ACT AND THEN IN THE GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS AND EFFICIENCY COMMITTEE HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON THE LOBBYING PROVISIONS AND THE CONCERN OF THE GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS AND EFFICIENCY COMMITTEE IS THAT THEY REALLY NEED TO GET FULL COUNCIL CONSIDERATION OF THE OTHER CHANGES THAT ARE PROPOSED IN EGA AND THEREFORE ALSO THE FAIR ACT. SO I USED THAT DOCUMENT TO SHOW COUNCIL MEMBER DUGGAN EXACTLY WHAT, WHERE TO FOCUS WHEN THEY GO BACK TO A STUDY SESSION, UH, FOR THE, UH, BY THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, GOING FORWARD. UM, SO I THOUGHT THE MEETING WITH, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER DUGGAN WAS VERY GOOD TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS ONE, THE GREAT EXTENT TO WHICH THE FAIR ACT IS EGA WITH SOME MODIFICATIONS, UM, BUT ALSO TO IDENTIFY THE URGENCY TO GET TO A CONSOLIDATED ETHICS ORDINANCE. I KNOW THEY CONSIDERED THE CALENDARING ISSUE SEPARATELY, BUT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO IMPLEMENT THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE HARVEY ROSE AUDIT AND THE, UM, STRATEGIC ROADMAP THAT WE END UP WITH A SINGLE CONSOLIDATED ORDINANCE. SO I'M TRYING TO, UH, IDENTIFY THE BEST WAYS THAT WE, AS THE ETHICS COMMISSION CAN SUPPORT THE CITY COUNCIL IN GETTING TO THAT END. UM, FORMER ETHICS COMMISSION MEMBERS, MORALES SHOTWELL AND WISE, HAVE ALL VOLUNTEERED TO ASSIST IN ANY WAY WE CAN USE THEM. UM, THEY MAY WELL APPEAR AT PUBLIC MEET AS, AS A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC. THE QUESTION IS, CAN WE USE THEM IN, IN MORE SIGNIFICANT WAYS, PARTICULARLY SINCE THEY WERE ON EITHER THE AD HOC ON LOBBYING OR THE AD HOC ON POLICY. UM, AND THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE GOES WAY BEYOND THEIR STATUS AS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. UM, ALSO, ALTHOUGH I WAS A MEMBER OF THE LOBBYING AD HOC, I WAS NOT A MEMBER OF THE POLICY AD HOC. UM, AND I BELIEVE THAT, UH, WE SHOULD PULL IN, UH, THE EXPERTISE DEVELOPED BY THE POLICY AD HOC IN FURTHER MEETINGS WITH CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS OR WITH THE, UH, COUNCIL AT LARGE. UM, I THINK THAT THE ETHICS COMMISSION SHOULD HAVE ONE OR MORE PRIMARY POINT POINTS OF CONTACT. UM, I, I, I REALLY BELIEVE [00:10:01] THAT THIS COULD GO VERY SLOWLY IF WE ARE NOT CONSISTENTLY REMINDING THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE URGENCY TO GET TO A FINAL CONSOLIDATED ETHICS ORDINANCE. UM, SO I I, I'M HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO WORK IN ANY WAY THAT I CAN. UM, BUT I WILL BE BRINGING UP TO THE COMMISSION ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING, THE JUNE MEETING, AND I WANT PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT IT, HOW BEST WE CAN USE THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION AND THE FORMER MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION TO HELP GET THE FAIR ACT OVER THE LINE, UH, AS SWIFTLY AS POSSIBLE, RECOGNIZING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NEED TO HAVE A, A, A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT IS THEY'RE APPROVING. UH, SO WE WANT TO GET THEM TO THE PROPER KNOWLEDGE PLACE WHERE THEY ARE ABLE TO VOTE ON THE, ON THE, ON THE FAIR ACT. AND IF THERE IS SOME PROVISION THAT'S IN THE ACT THAT IS PARTICULARLY PROBLEMATIC BASED ON THE WORK THAT WE DID, WE MAY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ALTERNATIVES ARE. WE MAY ACTUALLY ALSO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS WHAT THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF ALTERNATIVE APPROACHES ARE. UM, AND SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT EXPERTISE, THAT EXPERIENCE, THAT KNOWLEDGE BASE IS MADE AVAILABLE TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS THEY, AS THEY MOVE THROUGH THIS PROCESS. SO I WILL BE BRINGING AN AGENDA ITEM FORWARD TO DISCUSS HOW WE CAN BEST SUPPORT SWIFT APPROVAL OF A COMPREHENSIVE ETHICS ORDINANCE BASED UPON THE COMMISSION'S WORK. AND I'LL BE DOING THAT IN JUNE. ANY QUESTIONS? UM, WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, UM, GIVEN THE, I'LL JUST SAY THE CLIMATE, UM, I THINK THE MOST OBVIOUS IS THE ROSE REPORT, THE AUDIT FINDINGS, ET CETERA. UM, FAILING TO ACT TIMELY IS NOT GOOD. AND THERE, UM, WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M HEARING ARE, I'M GLAD THAT, UH, YOU'RE MEETING WITH, UM, COUNCILMAN DUGAN WENT WELL, UH, PERHAPS THE CALENDARING AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN THINK OF SOME OPTIONS AROUND DISCLOSURE. BUT, UH, MOST ALL THE OTHER ISSUES THAT I'VE, I'M HEARING ABOUT, UM, THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR TO CURRENT LAW AND WE ARE JUST TRYING TO STATE AND GUIDE STATE GUIDANCE IN A, AND HAVE A CLEAR ORDINANCE FOR OUR CITY GOING FORWARD. THERE'S REALLY NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN, I'LL SAY. UM, BUT THERE PROBABLY ARE SOME NUANCES FOR THEM THAT THEY FEEL THAT IS BURDENSOME. YEAH. ONE OF THE NUANCES THAT THE CITY, UH, STAFF RAISED IN THEIR MEMO TO THE GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS AND EFFICIENCY COMMITTEE WAS ENFORCEMENT. AND I KNOW ENFORCEMENT WAS DISCUSSED A LOT IN THE POLICY COMMITTEE. UM, THE POLICY AD HOC, WELL, THE COMMISSION'S PROPOSAL IN THE AGA, UH, EXEMPTED THE CODE OF CON, UH, CODE OF BUSINESS ETHICS AND CONDUCT FROM THE CATCHALL PROVISION IN THE CITY CODE THAT A VIOLATION OF THE CITY MUNICIPAL CODE IS A MIS CAN BE PRO, CAN BE PROSECUTED AS A MISDEMEANOR. UM, AND, AND, AND THAT, SO THAT'S GETTING A FAIR AMOUNT OF ATTENTION WHETHER THE OTHER PROVISIONS SHOULD, UH, BE, UH, UH, ENFORCEABLE THROUGH A A CRIMINAL MISDEMEANOR. I DID NOTE THAT, UM, THE POLICY AD HOC PROPOSED NUMEROUS AND THE LOBBYING AD HOC PROPOSED NUMEROUS ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS SHORT OF CRIMINAL MISDEMEANOR PROSECUTION, BECAUSE CHRIS, CHRIS CRIMINAL MISDEMEANOR PROSECUTION IS SO RARE THAT IT'S NOT REALLY AN EFFECTIVE ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM. AND WE REALLY DO NEED ADMINISTRATIVE ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS MM-HMM . UM, BUT SO THAT WILL I'M SURE BE ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE TOPICS. IT'S NOT, YEAH. RIGHT. BUT WE DO NEED THE, THESE THEMES TO BE CODIFIED, YOU KNOW, HOW WE, HOW WE, WHAT OUR POSITION IS ON, ON, UH, FRAUD , YOU KNOW, FRAUD, WASTE AND ABUSE, PERIOD, THE END, UH, UH, ESPECIALLY IN THE AREAS OF KICKBACKS, ET CETERA. THERE REALLY ISN'T ANYTHING COVERING, AS YOU AND I KNOW, UM, EVEN IN, THERE'S SOME GREAT LANGUAGE IN SOME OF THE CON CONTRACTS, BUT SOME OF THEM ARE ARCHAIC. UM, OKAY. SO I THANK YOU FOR THAT. UH, BASED ON YOUR CONVERSATION, WHAT KIND OF A TIMELINE ARE WE LOOKING AT? WE MIGHT HEAR BACK, UM, HEATHER OR OR ANYBODY ON CITY STAFF. DO [00:15:01] YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN IT WILL BE COMING BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL? NO. WE ARE GUESSING TOWARDS THE END OF THE SUMMER, BUT THEN WE'LL, WE'LL START COMPETING WITH BUDGET AS WELL. RIGHT. SO, OKAY. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A SHORT, IT'S GOING TO BE A MARATHON. IT'S NOT A, A SPRINT, FOR SURE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU CHAIR. ANY OTHER INPUT FROM OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION? IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON, I'M SORRY, CHAIR, CAN YOU JUST REMIND US WHO IS ON THE, UM, SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, THAT INCLUDES GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS IN EFFICIENCY? YES. GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS IN EFFICIENCY IS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER DUGGAN, COUNCIL MEMBER ZENDEJAS, AND, AND, UH, JODY RICK. SO, YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SORRY, CHAIR. YEAH, NO, PLEASE. . MY MIND WAS SOMEWHERE ELSE. ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE COMMISSION? IS THERE ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? HEARING NONE. UH, CAN WE MOVE TO A VOTE? UH, MY SCREEN DIDN'T MOVE TO A VOTE INITIALLY SAID MOVE. IT WENT TO NUMBER THREE. NOW WE'RE BACK AT NUMBER TWO. I INSTEAD MOVE. IT WENT TO THREE. OH, BECAUSE, AH, THERE WE ARE. WE DIDN'T DO THE MOVE YET. THANK YOU. YEAH, I THOUGHT WE DID. OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, [3. 26-55095 Recommendation to discuss the future objectives of the Ad Hoc Committee on Polices Review; and receive and file monthly update.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS THE FUTURE OBJECTIVES OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON POLICIES. REVIEW AND RECEIVE AND FILE A MONTHLY UPDATE. I HAVE A MOTION FROM SOMEBODY. THAT'S RIGHT. CAN SOMEBODY MOVE? UH, YOU HAVE MO MOVES. WOW. COMMISSIONER DE BENEDICTUS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILLETTE. UH, HOW DO YOU WANT ME, NO, I DON'T. UM, COMMISSIONER DE BENEDICTUS, DO YOU HAVE A REPORT FROM THE POLICY COMMITTEE? UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT AT THIS TIME. UM, WE'RE, WE CAN PROBABLY MEET AGAIN TO TALK ABOUT, UH, WHAT'S BEFORE US, BUT, UM, I PROBABLY RECOMMEND THAT WE DON'T UNTIL WE HEAR MORE FROM THE FAIR ACT, UM, OR FROM STAFF, UH, AS YOU KNOW, THAT WE ARE, WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT STAFF, UM, AND IF, UH, THEY NEED OUR GUIDANCE ON ANY OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS THAT ARE UNDER REVIEW, ET CETERA, WE'RE, WE'RE AVAILABLE. UM, WHEN WE WERE SETTING UP THE AGENDA FOR THIS MEETING, I HAD A QUESTION IN MY MIND AS TO WHETHER THE POLICY COMMITTEE WOULD BE RECEIVING, WOULD BE EXPECTS TO REVIEW ALL OF THE NEW POLICIES THAT ARE PROPOSED BY THE CITY IN THE AR PROJECT. IS THAT, SO I DON'T THINK WE EVER, UM, SAID ALL, BUT I THINK THAT, UH, UM, I'LL JUST SAY EARLY DAYS WERE THAT WE WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO STAFF AS THEY MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS, AND CERTAINLY ONES THAT ARE KIND OF IN OUR WHEELHOUSE, THEY SOLICIT OUR, OUR OPINIONS, OUR THOUGHTS AND FEEDBACK. OKAY. IS THAT CONSISTENT WITH STAFF'S UNDERSTANDING? YES. LIKE WE DISCUSSED BEFORE, I THINK WHEN WE, WHEN THE AD HOC FIRST CAME TOGETHER, THERE WAS AN ASSUMPTION THAT THE FAIR ACT WOULD BE MOVING A LITTLE BIT QUICKER THAN IT IS BECAUSE WITH THE, THE, THE FAIR ACT COMES NEW POLICIES, NEW, UH, GUIDANCE, ET CETERA, THAT THE AD HOC HAS BEEN PREPARED TO, UH, GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS ON. WE WERE ALSO HOPING TO GET MORE FEEDBACK FROM VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS ON POLICIES THAT THEY MAY WANT THE [00:20:01] COMMISSION TO LOOK AT. WE'VE NOT GOTTEN ANY RESPONSES TO THAT. SO AS I RECOMMENDED DURING THE AGENDA SETTING MEETING, I WOULD PROPOSE TO DISSOLVE THIS AD HOC FOR NOW UNTIL THE FAIR ACT WAS CLOSER TO BEING, UM, VOTED ON AND APPROVED. SO DO YOU NOT EXPECT ANY ARS TO COME TO FRUITION BEFORE THAT CONSIDERING SURE. WE DO, AND I THINK JORGE CAN SPEAK MORE TO THAT THAN I CAN, BUT I, WE CAN REQUEST, I I DON'T KNOW HOW ACTIVE A ROLE THAT, THAT AD HOC WOULD HAVE AND THAT BASED ON CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE ALL HAD AND, AND WHAT DOES THE AD HOC THINK? THANK YOU CHAIR. UM, I CAME IN WHEN THE TWO ARS WERE ALREADY PRESENTED. UM, AND SO WE ONLY WORKED ON THOSE TWO. MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT WE WERE KIND OF WAITING FOR THE FAIR ACT, UH, TO DEVELOP AND POSSIBLY PASS WITH ALL THE CHANGES AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE MAYOR'S MAKING IN COUNCIL. AND THAT IT WOULD, UH, DEFEAT THE PURPOSE OF OUR INPUT AT THIS POINT BECAUSE THE FAIR ACT MAY OVERRIDE WHATEVER RECOMMENDATIONS OR CONCERNS THAT THE AD HOC MAY HAVE AS WELL AS THIS COMMISSION. YEAH, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. I, I WOULD RECOMMEND, UH, GIVEN THE UPDATE THAT WE'VE RECEIVED, THAT WE TAKE A PAUSE OR, UH, SHUT DOWN THIS AD HOC TILL A LATER DATE. BUT I THINK THAT WE'RE BOTH, UH, WE WANT TO STAY INVOLVED AND, AND HOPEFULLY THE AD HOC WILL COME TO LIFE AGAIN, BUT ALSO, UH, KEEPING IN MIND THE REQUIREMENTS OF AN AD HOC, IF WE ARE THAT WE'RE NOT BEING SOLICITED AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY ACTIVITY ONGOING, I, I DON'T THINK IT'S PROPER TO KEEP IT, KEEP IT A NAMED ACTIVE ONE. I AGREE. CHAIR WITHOUT, UH, WITHOUT A DEPARTMENT SENDING US SOMETHING TO REVIEW, WHAT ARE WE TO REVIEW? RIGHT, RIGHT. SO THE QUESTION WAS, YOU KNOW, IT WHETHER OR NOT THERE WOULD BE THINGS TO REVIEW SOON ENOUGH TO KEEP THE AD HOC IN PLACE OTHERWISE. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S NOT POLICIES ORRS COMING OUT OF THE AR REVIEW PROJECT THAT ARE APPROPRIATE FOR REVIEW BY THE ETHICS COMMISSION IN THE NEAR TERM. YEAH, THERE ARE AR THAT ARE BEING REVIEWED, BUT MORE LIKE OPERATIONAL TYPE AR I THINK THERE'S SPECIFIC ONES THAT ARE RELATED TO THE FAIR ACT ITSELF. UM, AND THOSE ARE LIKELY NOT TO BE REVISED UNTIL THERE'S CLARITY WITH THE FAIR ACT, BUT THEN THERE'S JUST GENERAL, UH, WHICH I DON'T KNOW, THE AD HOC WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THOSE POLICIES, LIKE ELECTRICAL VEHICLE USAGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YOU NO, . OKAY. WELL, WE HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM FOR ADDING OR DISSOLVING AD HOC, SO WHEN WE GET THERE, WE'LL ADDRESS THIS AGAIN. UM, CAN I LOOK OVER YOUR SHOULDER AT YOUR AGENDA? SURE. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER? WELL, LET ME, LET ME GO OVER HERE. IT'S EASIER. UH, I MEAN THE VOTER NUMBER. YEAH. SO WE HA ARE THERE ANY, UH, IS THERE ANY OTHER INPUT FROM MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION ON THIS ITEM? IF I MAY? UH, COMMISSIONER CALL, UH, VICE CHAIR COLEMAN. AND I KNOW, I THINK IT WILL BE HELPFUL BECAUSE IT'S THE TIME TO DISCUSS THE FUTURE OBJECTIVES. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE, WE'LL SEE, YOU KNOW, THE DISSOLVE, YOU KNOW, THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISSOLVE OR APPROVE NEW, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS IS LATER DOWN THE AGENDA. BUT JUST SO THAT I, WHEN I GET TO THAT VOTE, I'M CLEAR, I THINK, SO IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING, BUT I ASSUME ONE GET TO FOUR IS, ARE THERE AR I, MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE AR PROCESS IS THAT AR SHOULD BE UPDATED EVERY TWO YEARS. THEY'RE DOING SO ON A ROLLING BASIS FROM, UM, THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS. HOW I UNDERSTAND THIS TOPIC IS THAT THE AR CURRENTLY REGARDING THE FAIR ACT, IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE FOR THE AD HOC ON POLICIES TO REVIEW BECAUSE THAT COULD BE OVERRIDDEN BY THE ACTIONS OF COUNCIL, UM, AS WELL AS THE SUBCOMMITTEE. AND THERE'S THESE, YOU KNOW, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, CURRENTLY, MUNDANE ARS, UM, THAT LIKELY WOULD NOT, UM, BE INTERESTING OR NOT NECESSARILY RELEVANT FOR THIS AD HOC, ARE THERE WHAT I WOULD CALL WOBBLERS IN THE MIDDLE ARS THAT [00:25:01] ARE NOT SO MUNDANE THAT THEY DON'T REQUIRE REVIEW BY THIS, UM, AD HOC AND NOT ARS THAT RELATE TO THE FAIR ACT, BUT ARS THAT COULD BE IN THE MIDDLE WOBBLERS, IF YOU WILL. UM, THAT WOULD STILL, IT WOULD STILL BE USEFUL FOR AN AD HOC OR MEMBERS OF THIS COMMISSION, UM, TO REVIEW. COULD YOU THINK OF ANY ARS SUCH AS THAT? UM, THERE, I MEAN THERE'S, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE, WHAT THE AD HOC WOULD BE INTERESTED IN. I MEAN, THERE'S THINGS LIKE THAT FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT DOES, LIKE RELATED TO PURCHASING SOMETHING THEY'RE WORKING ON, THINGS LIKE THAT. THE ONLY ISSUE IS LIKE, NOT EXACTLY KNOWING WHEN THEY'RE GONNA BE ROUTING THOSE THROUGH, OTHER THAN LIKE STAYING IN TOUCH WITH THEM AND, AND SEEING WHERE THEY'RE AT. BUT IT'S ULTIMATELY UP TO THEM TO, TO PRESENT THOSE POLICIES TO MOVE 'EM THROUGH. SO SOMETIMES WE'RE NOT EXACTLY SURE ON THE TIMING 'CAUSE IT'S KIND OF DEPENDENT ON THEM. SO THAT, THAT AD HOC WOULD JUST, I GUESS IN A SENSE MIGHT BE WAITING AROUND IF IT'S STILL, UM, IF THERE'S NOT, BUT THERE MAY NOT BE A SPECIFIC POLICY THAT COMES THROUGH THAT'S RELEVANT. I GUESS THAT'D BE THE QUESTION. UM, WE COULD ALWAYS, I GUESS IF POLICIES COME UP, MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DISCUSS WITH THE CHAIR OR YOURSELF, THE VICE CHAIR, UM, AS THOSE THINGS COME UP AND IF THERE IS AN AD HOC IN PLACE, BUT SOMETHING WE CAN JUST CONTINUE DISCUSSING AS WE MOVE FORWARD. UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU. BUT YEAH, THERE, THERE, THERE COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT JUST NOT, NOT THAT I CAN THINK OF RIGHT NOW THAT'S ACTUALLY ACTIVE. OF COURSE. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. NO PROBLEM. IS THERE ANY OTHER INPUT FROM THE COMMISSION? IS THERE ANY PUBLIC INPUT ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? HEARING NONE. LET'S MOVE TO A VOTE. OH, AND I GOT THE VOTE. WOW. MOTION CARRIES. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, [4. 26-55096 Recommendation to receive and file monthly update from the Ad Hoc Committee on Social Media and Campaign Activity.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE MONTHLY UPDATE FROM THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON SOCIAL MEDIA. I HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER GILL, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DE BENEDICTUS AND COMMISSIONER GILL WILL BE PROVIDING THE REPORT. THANK YOU. SO, UH, THE BASIS FOR OUR WORK IS THAT WE DID HEAR SOME ISSUES WITH THE TRANSFERRING OF SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS AND SOME OTHER ITEMS RELATED TO SOCIAL MEDIA AND CAMPAIGN ACCOUNTS. AND SO AS WE HAVE BEEN MOVING THROUGH, UH, GAINING UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT LONG BEACH HAS AND COMPARING IT TO WHAT MAYBE SOME OTHER, UM, GOVERNMENT AGENCIES HAVE, WE, IN THE LAST, UM, PERIOD, WE DID HAVE, UH, A ZOOM MEETING OF THE CHAIR, THE VICE CHAIR AND MYSELF, UH, WHICH IS THE, WERE THE MEMBERS OF THE AD HOC. WE HAD ONE ON APRIL 27TH, WE HAD ANOTHER ONE ON MAY 4TH. AND THEN THE RESULT OF THAT WAS THIS ATTACHMENT, WHICH IS OUR SHORT STATEMENT ON THE FOCUS OF THE AD HOC. UH, WHAT WE LOOKED AT AS NOTED HERE IS WHAT THE CITY OF SAN JOSE HAS AND FOR RELATED AND ALSO WHAT THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES HAS FOR RELATED. WE LOOKED AT WHAT LONG BEACH CURRENTLY HAS, WHICH IS PRETTY THIN, UH, IN THE AREA OF WHAT WE ARE, UH, HOPING TO, TO GET TO, UH, IN A MORE ROBUST STATE. AND, UH, AND THEN WE DID MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, AS A PRELIMINARY TO, UM, TO WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE LONG BEACH GET TO. UH, WE, UH, CAME UP WITH, UH, SOME THINGS FOR WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHEN THINGS ARE CAMPAIGN RELATED, AND ALSO WHEN THERE ARE, UH, ACCOUNTS THAT GO FROM, UH, AND WHEN A, A CANDIDATE BECOMES AN ELECTED AND ALSO WHEN AN ELECTED CYCLES OUT. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS REPORT IS ABOUT. AND I CERTAINLY WE COULD HAVE, UH, OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY INPUT ON THIS MATTER? UM, WE ARE ASKING ULTIMATELY FOR A POSITION OF THE ETHICS COMMISSION AS THE ETHICS COMMISSION ON A RECOMMENDATION TO CHANGE CITY [00:30:01] ORDINANCE OR REGULATIONS OR POLICIES, UM, BECAUSE THIS IMPACTS ELECTEDS. UM, IT COULDN'T BE DONE SIMPLY BY AN AR OUT OF THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. UM, SO, UH, TODAY'S AGENDA IS SIMPLY A RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE UPDATE. THE UPDATE DOES INCLUDE A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE AD HOC, UM, I'M NOT HEARING ANY DISCUSSION. I WILL PUT IT THEN ON THE JUNE. OH, DO WE HAVE YEAH, I HAVE. YEAH, I'M SORRY. FEEL FREE TO FINISH. I, I WILL PUT IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA FOR A VOTE, BUT LOVE TO HEAR SOME DISCUSSION. THANK YOU, CHAIR. UM, FIRST I JUST WANNA THANK THE AD HOC, UH, FOR THE REPORT. UH, IT'S THOROUGH, UH, THOUGHTFUL, AND ALSO IT'S, UM, UM, THE RESEARCH THAT, UH, WAS DONE SEEMS VERY LEGITIMATE. AND THEN WHEN YOU COMPARE AND THEN WHEN YOU START TO COMPARING THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES AND SAN JOSE, IT LEGITIMIZES OUR EFFORT TO CREATE POLICY AND NOT NECESSARILY IN A VACUUM. UH, HOWEVER, I DO HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF, UH, CONCERNS. UH, ONE IS WHEN WHEN YOU USE, UH, THE PHRASE DIVIDE BY NINE, THE LANGUAGE MAY BE UNCLEAR TO FOLKS. I THINK YOU ONLY USE IT ONCE AND I DIDN'T SEE A, A DEFINITION FOR IT. SO, UM, PERHAPS A DEFINITION OR JUST REMOVE IT. UM, ANOTHER THING THAT WE DISCUSS HERE, A A THEME THAT CROSSES THIS COMMISSION, UH, ON A REGULAR BASIS IS, UH, ENFORCEMENT. UM, THERE'S NO REAL CLEAR ENFORCEMENT STRUCTURE OR MECHANISM IN YOUR REPORT. UM, FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PERSONAL AND, UH, I MEAN THE STANDARDS BETWEEN PERSONAL AND OFFICIAL BUSINESS. UM, AND THEN ALSO MODERATING, UH, PARTICIPATION FROM THE HOLDER OF THE ACCOUNT AND PUBLIC INTERACTION. ANOTHER THING THAT THE REPORT, UH, MENTIONS BUT DOES NOT, UH, FULLY ADDRESS. AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS WHAT THE AD HOC WANTS TO DO, BUT YOU MENTIONED STAFFING. YOU, YOU MENTIONED, UM, CITY CLERK, CITY ATTORNEY, ELECTED OFFICIALS, UH, AND TID, WHICH I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS, BUT TID UH, BUT THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO, THE REPORT DOESN'T GO INTO THE ESTIMATE OF COST FOR THE STAFFING, UM, HOW MUCH IT'LL COST TO ARCHIVE ANY INFORMATION, UM, ANY SOFTWARE THAT MAY BE UTILIZED. AGAIN, THAT MAY BE TOO IN THE WEEDS OR DO TAKE TOO DETAILED. SO I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S HELPFUL TO YOU. UM, ALSO IN, IN THE, ON PAGE FIVE, THERE'S A PHRASE IN THE RECOMMENDATION, UH, QUOTE, IF PERSONAL SOCIAL, IF A PERSONAL SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNT IS USED FOR OFFICIAL BUSINESS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, UM, WHAT IS OFFICIAL BUSINESS AND WHAT IF SOMEONE IS REPOSTING THE INFORMATION, HOW DOES THAT, HOW DOES THAT FIT IN? UM, AND AFTER AN ELECTION, CAN THE ELECTED OFFICIAL, THE THE ELECTED OFFICIAL, WILL PROBABLY STOP USING THE ACCOUNT? IT WON'T BE ACTIVE, BUT CAN THEY QUICKLY REVERT BACK TO IT WHEN NECESSARILY WHEN THEY FEEL THEY NEED TO USE IT? SO LET ME JUST UNPACK A LITTLE BIT. YEAH. SO I CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND. I, I DO THINK THAT THE ELECTED WOULD DECIDE IF SOMETHING IS PERSONAL OR OFFICIAL, BUT IF IT'S PERSONAL, THEY CAN'T USE ANY CITY ASSETS. SO THEY CAN'T USE A CITY EMAIL ACCOUNT. THEY CAN'T USE CITY FUNDS, FOR EXAMPLE, TO PAY FOR A CONSTANT CONTACT OR CONTENT SUBSCRIPTION, ET CETERA. UM, THEY MUST, IF IT IS NOT OFFICIAL BUSINESS AND THEY ARE ELECTED [00:35:01] AND IT IS A PERSONAL ACCOUNT, THEY MUST SAY THIS ACCOUNT IS NOT PAID FOR, SPONSORED OR HOSTED BY THE CITY. OKAY. UM, SO, UH, THEY THEN WOULD AFTER LEAVING OFFICE, HAVE ACCESS TO THE PERSONAL ACCOUNT AND THE INCUMBENT WOULD NOT, BUT ANYTHING THAT THEY HAD BEEN SENDING OUT WHILE IN THE ELECTED POSITION USING CITY FUNDS WOULD BE AN ASSET OF THE CITY TO BE TRANSFERRED TO THE SUCCESSOR. SO THAT IS THE MAIN ISSUE THAT THE AD HOC WAS LOOKING TO ADDRESS. UM, UH, I, I DON'T, WE DID NOT TRY TO GET INTO DEFINING THE TWO DEFINITIONS EXCEPT BY VIRTUE OF FUNDING. OKAY. BECAUSE WHEN I READ IT, AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST MY OWN, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A, FOR ME, THERE'S A BLUR BETWEEN OFFICIAL USE AND PERSONAL USE. UM, I DIDN'T SEE HOW, UM, I DIDN'T SEE A DEFINITION AND YOU JUST SAID YOU DIDN'T GET INTO THAT, BUT I DON'T SEE A DEFINITION OF OFFICIAL BUSINESS. AND, UM, WHAT ABOUT THE OCCASIONAL CONSTITUENT WHO MAY REPLY TO THAT ACCOUNT? AND AGAIN, THE REPOSTING OF CITY INFORMATION FROM THAT ACCOUNT, FROM A PERSONAL ACCOUNT OR AN OFFICIAL ACCOUNT? WELL, THAT'S THE QUESTION. YEAH. WHAT IS THE, I I I, I COULD TAKE, I GET ALL SORTS OF CITY STUFF IN MY INBOX. YEAH. AND IT, ON MY PERSONAL FACEBOOK PAGE, IF I WANTED TO REPOST IT, THAT WOULD BE FINE. YES. IT'S A PERSONAL ACCOUNT AND I'M REPOSTING IT. YES. UM, BUT, UH, BUT YOU'RE ALSO A COMMISSIONER. I, I AM. AND YOU'RE REPOSTING. I AM, YEAH. BUT IT'S A PERSONAL ACCOUNT. I'M REPOSTING IT ON, I'M GETTING NO CITY FUNDS. I'M GETTING NO CITY SUPPORT, AND THE ACCOUNT IS NOT REGISTERED IN A CITY EMAIL ADDRESS, WHICH OF COURSE I LACK, UM, . BUT, UH, SO I I, THE FACT THAT I'VE POSTED SOMETHING OFFICIAL DOESN'T MAKE SOMETHING AN OFFICIAL ACCOUNT. I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE BUSINESS OF TELLING PEOPLE THEY COULD NOT POST OFFICIAL CITY STUFF ON THEIR PERSONAL ACCOUNTS. YEAH. I AGREE WITH, I AGREE WITH YOU CHAIR. I'M JUST SAYING THAT THE REPORT TO ME DID NOT CLARIFY. OKAY. THE DIFFERENCE A, A AND, AND, AND IF WE CLARIFY IT BY VIRTUE OF THE FUNDING MECHANISM, WOULD THAT SOLVE? I'D HAVE TO SEE IT. YEAH. BUT YEAH, I, THE, THE CONCERN IS THAT THE, THE AMBIGU, THE AMBIGUITY, UM, WILL RAISE, UM, ENFORCEMENT ISSUES. RIGHT. IF THERE, IF, IF IN THE END THERE IS AN ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM OR STRUCTURE, IT MAY CREATE ENFORCEMENT PROBLEMS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT'S, THAT'S HELPFUL. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OTHER INPUT FROM THE COMMISSION? I, WELL WE WILL GET TOGETHER AGAIN AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR A FINAL REVIEW. UM, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, CAN WE MOVE TO A VOTE? I CAN DO A VERBAL AYE, WHILE I GET BACK. VICE CHAIR COLEMAN? UH, AYE. ALRIGHT. MOTION CARRIES. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, RECOMMENDATION [5. 26-55097 Recommendation to receive and file monthly update from the Ad Hoc Committee on Commission Responsibilities.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] TO RECEIVE AND FILE A MONTHLY UPDATE FROM THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON COMMISSION RESPONSIBILITIES. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER GILL, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILLETTE. AND WE ARE SCHEDULED, THE AD HOC ON COMMISSION RESPONSIBILITIES IS SCHEDULED TO MEET WITH MILLICENT ON THE 27TH. THAT'S CORRECT. ANYTHING ELSE WE HAVE TO REPORT? OKAY. ANY INPUT FROM THE COMMISSION ON THIS ITEM? [00:40:03] IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? SEEING NONE, LET'S MOVE TO A VOTE. MOTION CARRIES AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A MONTHLY UPDATE FROM THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON THE PRIMARY NOMINATING ELECTION [6. 26-55099 Recommendation to receive and file monthly update from the Ad Hoc Committee on the Primary Nominating Election Candidate Filings.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] CANDIDATE FILES. I HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER AVE. SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR COLEMAN. UH, THANK YOU CHAIR. UM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND START. UM, THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON PRIMARY NOMINATING ELECTIONS, UH, ELECTION CANDIDATE FILINGS IS MADE UP OF MYSELF AND VICE CHAIR COLEMAN. UM, THE AD HOC DID NOT MEET BUT COMMUNICATED ONCE TO SIMPLY CLARIFY THE DIVISION OF REPORTS BETWEEN US. UH, VICE CHAIR COLEMAN WILL REPORT ON THE FILINGS. I I BELIEVE HE WILL REPORT ON THE FILINGS, UH, FOR THE THIRD DISTRICT, SEVENTH DISTRICT'S NINTH, AND THE CITY AUDITOR'S RACE. UM, I REVIEWED THE PRIMARY NOMINATING NOMINATION CAMPAIGN FILINGS FOR THE REPORTING PERIOD OF JANUARY 1ST, 2026 THROUGH APRIL 18TH, 2026 FOR COUNCIL DISTRICTS ONE AND FIVE, AS WELL AS THE MAYOR'S RACE IN COUNCIL DISTRICT ONE. THERE WERE EIGHT FILERS, WHICH CONSISTS OF CANDIDATES OR COMMITTEES ALSO INCLUDING NON CANDIDATE ENTITY. UM, A LONG BEACH, UH, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE PAC, ALL FILERS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF, UH, MR. GOLDMAN FOR CITY COUNCIL FILED FORM FOUR 60 DISCLOSURES ON APRIL 24TH, WHICH IS, UM, A DAY AFTER THE DEADLINE OF THE 23RD. THE REMAINING FILERS WERE MR. BRYSON, UH, MS. KALEE, MS. LOGAN, AND CURRENT COUNCIL MEMBER MARY SAND DEJA WITH TWO COMMITTEES AND MS. WAGNER OCIO FOR COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE. THERE WERE FIVE COMMITTEES OR CANDIDATES INCLUDING NON CANDIDATE ENTITY, THE CHAMBER PAC. THE MAJORITY FILED TIMELY ON OR BEFORE APRIL 23RD. ONE. FILER MS. BATONS FILED ONLY A FORM 5 0 1 OTHER FILE FILERS INCLUDED MS. EY AND CURRENT COUNCIL MEMBER MEGAN KERR WITH HER TWO COMMITTEES. FOR THE MAYOR'S RACE, THERE WERE 16 FILERS WOW, INCLUDING NON CANDIDATE ENTITIES. THE CHAMBER PACK, VERIZON, THE LONG BEACH POLICE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION, AND THE OPPORTUNITY BEACH FUND. THE MAJORITY FILED TIMELY ON OR BEFORE APRIL 23RD. DEADLINE ONE. FILER MR. COSME CHECK DID NOT SUBMIT ANY FORMS WHILE MR. MARTINEZ FILED ONLY A FORM 5 0 1 AND VERIZON FILED ONLY A FORM FOUR 10. ADDITIONALLY, MR. CONEO, MS. RIVERS, UH, LEE GOLDEN AND MR. RODRIGUEZ EACH FILED THEIR FORM FOUR 60 DISCLOSURES ON APRIL 24TH, AGAIN, AFTER THE APRIL 23RD DEADLINE. OTHER FILERS INCLUDED, UH, CURRENT MAYOR REX RICHARDSON WITH HIS FOUR COMMITTEES AS WELL AS MSNE AND MR. SWEENEY. WITH RESPECT TO THE FILINGS TIMESTAMPED APRIL 24TH RATHER THAN APRIL 23RD DUE DATE. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING FROM PRESENTING, UH, THESE REPORTS, UM, THAT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE TREATS THESE FILINGS AS TIMELY DUE TO OCCASIONAL ELECTRONIC FILING SYSTEM GLITCHES. UH, THANK YOU TO PHIL FOR BEING AVAILABLE TO ANSWER MY QUESTION, AND THAT'S MY REPORT. I PICK UP WHERE COMMISSIONER NOVE LEFT OFF. UM, I I ALSO DO WANNA MAKE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. THERE ARE, IF YOU WILL GO TO THE SYSTEM, THERE WILL BE OTHER NAMES THAT ARE NOT, THAT HAVE, THAT WILL NOT BE REFERENCED AND THAT WILL NOT HAVE FILED THEIR REPORTS. THIS IS BECAUSE IF, IF A PERSON DOES NOT BE PLACED OR IS NOT PLACED ON THE OFFICIAL BALLOT, THEY DO NOT HAVE TO, UH, FILE THE RELEVANT FORMS. UM, IN THE THIRD DISTRICT, ALL, ALL FOUR OF THE OFFICIAL, UH, CANDIDATES HAVE WERE FILED AND IT WAS TIMELY. UM, IN THE SEVENTH DISTRICT, UM, THREE, ALL THREE OF THE OFFICIAL CANDIDATES FILED AND WERE TIMELY AS WELL AS A COMMITTEE. UM, FOR C UM, UH, UH, VIVIAN MALU, SORRY, UH, MALU, [00:45:02] UM, ALSO FILED AND IT WAS TIMELY, UM, IN THE NINTH DISTRICT. UM, ALL, ALL CANDIDATES FILED AND IT WAS TIMELY AS WELL AS CURRENT COUNCILWOMAN, UH, DR. JODY RITZ OTIS, UM, OFFICE HOLDER ACCOUNT WAS ALSO FILED TIMELY FOR THE CITY AUDITOR. UM, OF THE OFFICIAL CANDIDATES. THOSE, THE TWO THAT ARE, WILL BE ON THE BALLOT HAVE FILED AND IT WAS FILED TIMELY. YOU MAY ALSO NOTICE IF YOU GO TO THE WEBSITE THAT THE LONG BEACH CITY ATTORNEY AND LONG BEACH, UH, PROSECUTOR DID NOT, UH, FILE IN FOR THE APRIL DEADLINE. THIS IS BECAUSE, UM, THEY DID NOT HAVE ANY CHALLENGERS AND THUS WILL, UH, NOT HAVE TO BE ON THE BALLOT AND WILL BE BECAUSE OF THAT. THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO FILE ANY OTHER, UM, DISCLOSURES DURING THIS, UM, PRIMARY NOMINATING ELECTION. PLEASE LET US KNOW IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. UM, I I DO HAVE A QUESTION WHERE ENTITIES SUCH AS VERIZON FILED, DO THEY IDENTIFY WHO THEY'RE SUPPORTING OR HOW, HOW THEY'RE SPENDING THEIR MONEY? VERIZON FILED, UM, ON, FOR THE MAYOR CITYWIDE RACE AND THEY, LIKE I SAID, THEY ONLY FILED A, UH, FORM FOUR 10. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IF THERE'S NO FUNDS BEING MOVED AROUND, THEY DON'T HAVE TO FILE ANY SUBSEQUENT FORMS. SO WHAT ARE THEY, WHY ARE THEY FILING? I BELIEVE THE FORM FOUR 10, UH, INCIDENT CAN JUMP IN IF I'M MISTAKEN. IS THE, IS THAT YOU INTEND OR YOU'VE ALREADY RAISED I THINK $2,000 IS THE THRESHOLD. YES. SO I, I THINK THEY FILED BECAUSE THEY INTENDED, BUT THEY DIDN'T FILE ANYTHING AFTER THAT. AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO SAY WHO THEY'RE RAISING THE MONEY FOR. WELL, THEY FILED IN THE MAYOR'S RACE FOR REX. I'M SORRY, FOR REX RICHARDSON. OH, OKAY. SO THEY DO SAY WHO THEY'RE SUPPORTING? I BELIEVE SO. OKAY. YES, UN UNTIL THEY, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING AND PHILIP ALSO JUMP IN UNTIL THEY, UM, DISPERSE, MOVE OR OTHERWISE MAKE USE OF THOSE FUNDS. THEY DO NOT HAVE TO FILE AND SHOW WHERE THOSE FUNDS WERE USED FOR. OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NO PUBLIC COMMENT, LET'S MOVE TO A VOTE. UH, PHILLIP, I'M GONNA HAVE TO DO A VERBAL, IF WE'RE HAVING TECHNICAL ISSUES. YEAH, WE CAN TAKE A VERBAL. SO, UH, UH, SAME THING FOR COMMISSIONER EATON. AYE. I AM CHAIR P*****K. AYE. ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS ANTICIPATED AD HOC COMMITTEES FOR UPCOMING PROJECTS. AND IF APPROPRIATE, TAKE ACTION TO DISSOLVE, CREATE OR REAUTHORIZE AD HOC [7. 26-55100 Recommendation to discuss anticipated Ad Hoc Committees for upcoming projects; and, if appropriate, take action to dissolve, create or reauthorize Ad Hoc Committees.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] COMMITTEES. I, I CAN'T TELL IF I HAVE A MOTION. AH, I HAVE A MOTION FROM VICE CHAIR COLEMAN, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILL. UH, AND DO WE HAVE ANY INPUT ON THIS ITEM, UH, CHAIR, BASED ON THE CONVERSATIONS THAT TOOK PLACE UNDER A FORMER AGENDA ITEM, UM, IT DOES SEEM THAT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE, AT LEAST IN THE SHORT ORDER, UM, TO DISSOLVE THE AD HOC ON POLICIES. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE COMMISSION? I'M SEEING HEAD NODDING FROM POLICY. AT LEAST ONE POLICY COMMITTEE NEAR THE RATTLING. OKAY. I CONCUR. UM, THEN CAN WE AMEND THIS ITEM TO RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS ANTICIPATED AD HOC COMMITTEES FOR UPCOMING PROJECTS AND TO TAKE ACTION TO DISSOLVE THE POLICY AD HOC? UH, UH, CHIEF WAS VICE [00:50:01] CHAIR. I ACCEPT THE A I ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT, FRIENDLY AMENDMENT EXCEPT THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. AND I SECOND THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT OR ACCEPT THE WHATEVER OF THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. UM, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THE COMMISSION AND DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS? SEEING NO PUBLIC COMMENT, LET'S MOVE TO A VOTE ON THE AMENDED AGENDA ITEM. NOW YOU'RE WAITING. WE GOT SOME GREMLINS GOING ON. . I'M JUST WAITING. COMMISSIONER NOVA, THIS IS WHAT THE WE CAN TAKE A VERBAL I VOTE. AYE. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER GI AYE. MOTION CARRIES. PERFECT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, [8. 26-55101 Recommendation to receive and file a monthly update from the Ethics Officer.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A MONTHLY UPDATE FROM THE ETHICS OFFICER. I HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER EATON, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GILLETTE. HEATHER, THANK YOU CHAIR. UH, NOT TOO MUCH THIS MONTH. JUST A REMINDER THAT WE HAVE OUR, UH, SPECIAL MEETING CONFIRMED FOR JUNE 10TH NEXT MONTH. UH, THAT'S AT THE WORSHAM TRAINING CENTER. I DID SEND OUT AN INVITE TO THE COMMISSIONERS TODAY, JUST, UH, AS A REMINDER, UH, WE DO HAVE OUR TWO INTERNS IN PLACE. UM, SO WAS GETTING THEM ONBOARDED AS RIGHT BEFORE I LEFT FOR EUROPE. UM, SO KIND OF WORKING ON A, UM, MORE CONSISTENT SCHEDULE AS WE MOVE INTO NEXT WEEK, UM, AFTER THEY GRADUATE FROM, UH, CAL STATE LONG BEACH THIS WEEK, I BELIEVE. UM, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO ACTIVELY RECRUITING FOR SAM'S VACANCY. WE DO HAVE, UH, TEMPORARY STAFF IN THAT POSITION RIGHT NOW AND HAVE RECEIVED JUST ABOUT A HUNDRED APPLICATIONS THAT, UM, IS, UH, IN MY INBOX RIGHT NOW FOR TYLER AND I TO START REVIEWING. SO, UH, THAT RECRUITMENT IS MOVING QUICKLY. AND AND IS THAT INTERNAL CANDIDATES OR BOTH? PROBABLY BOTH. HONESTLY, I HAVEN'T LOOKED, UM, BUT OKAY. BUT I SUSPECT BOTH, UM, TOMORROW IS THE AO FORUM THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT BRYCE WAS SHARING WITH YOU ALL THE LAST TIME HE WAS HERE IN JANUARY. UM, SOMETIMES THEY REFER TO IT AS THE SUPERVISORS, SUPERVISORS ACADEMY, UM, BUT IT IS CALLED AN AO FORUM. SO OUR OFFICE WILL BE DOING A HALF DAY LEADING A HALF DAY TRAINING TOMORROW. UH, THE NAME OF, AT LEAST THE ETHICS PORTION, UH, WE'RE CALLING IT LEADING WITH IT WITH INTEGRITY WHERE ETHICS MEETS EVERYDAY DECISION. SO WE'LL GIVE A BACKGROUND OF THE OET, UM, TALK ABOUT OUR ANNUAL REPORT. WE'LL ALSO DO, UM, A PRA TRAINING PORTION WILL BE INCLUDED IN THAT FRAMEWORK FOR ETHICAL DECISION MAKING WILL BE INCLUDED IN THAT. UM, JORGE WILL LEAD A TRAINING ON OUR AR PROJECT, GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE OLYMPICS, AND THEN, UM, WE'LL DO A, A DIVE INTO COUNCIL COMMUNICATIONS AND EXECUTIVE REVIEW. UM, SO AGAIN, THAT'LL BE A HALF DAY TRAINING. WE'RE EXPECTING ABOUT 60 MANAGERS, UM, THERE. SO EXCITED ABOUT THAT. AND THEN THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON MY, UH, REPORT FOR THIS MONTH. UM, HOW FREQUENTLY IS THAT FORUM HELD? UM, EVERY FEW MONTHS. IT, IT'S, IT'S UP TO THAT, IT'S THE, UM, HRS ORGAN ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT TEAM THAT LEADS THOSE. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY THE FIRST ONE THIS YEAR THEY'VE BEEN DOING OTHER WORKSHOPS AND STUFF. SO EVERY FEW MONTHS IS THE TYPICAL CADENCE THEY LIKE TO ADHERE TO. SO AT AN APPROPRIATE TIME, THERE COULD BE A DISCUSSION OF INVESTIGATION PROTOCOL THAT WOULD BE A, A GOOD PLACE TO PUT IT IN THE TRAINING THAT WE'RE LEADING. YEAH. NOT, NOT TOMORROW. MM-HMM . BUT AT, AT AN APPROPRIATE TIME. IF, WHEN, WHEN THE COMMISSION GETS BACK TO I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THE INVESTIGATION PROTOCOL, THEN A ROLLOUT. YES. THAT WOULD BE A GOOD, YEAH, DEFINITELY A GOOD AVENUE TO SHARE THAT. UH, COMMISSIONER GI, THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT. UH, BECAUSE HARBOR DOESN'T HAVE AN AO IN THEIR HR DIVISION, DO THEY JUST SEND AN HR MANAGER? OKAY. YES, TYPICALLY. THANKS. ANY OTHER [00:55:01] INPUT FROM THE COMMISSION? I HAVE A QUESTION. COMMISSIONER HEATHER. THANK YOU. UM, QUICK QUESTION ON THE, UM, FOR A SPECIAL SESSION MEETING IN JUNE, ARE WE NOT MEETING AT THE MICHELLE OBAMA LIBRARY? CORRECT. YEAH, THERE WAS SCHEDULING CONFLICT WITH OUR TID TEAM. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . WE'RE MEETING AT THE WORSHAM TRAINING CENTER, WHEREVER THAT IS. WE'LL FIND IT. YEAH, IT'S QUITE, UH, YOU'LL FIND IT FASCINATING. IT'S ACTUALLY A NEAT SPACE TO BE IN. IT'S UP NEAR THE AIRPORT. IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM LBX. OH, GREAT. OKAY. SO WE CAN GO GET A SAHI BOWLS AFTER ANY OTHER INPUT FROM THE COMMISSION ON THIS ITEM. COMMISSIONER, VICE CHAIR COLEMAN. UM, AND THE, UH, MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ALREADY RAISED THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD. UM, THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANTED TO SAY IS, UM, I THINK IT'D BE NICE IF AT SOME POINT THE INTERNS ARE ABLE TO COME TO A MEETING. I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSION ALWAYS LIKES TO SEE THEIR FACES AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SAY HELLO AND SEE WHAT THEIR FUTURE INTERESTS ARE AND IF WE CAN HELP IT ANYWAY. SO I, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT AS WELL. YEP, DEFINITELY AGREE. THEY'LL START JOINING US IN JUNE, UM, AFTER SCHOOL LET'S OUT. SO THEY'LL BE ABLE TO COME TO THE OFFSITE OR THE, WHATEVER IT'S CALLED. MM-HMM . THE SPECIAL MEETING. YEP, THAT'D BE GREAT. 'CAUSE WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE, WE'LL HAVE MORE BREAKS WHEN WE CAN KIND OF GET TO KNOW THEM. GREAT. SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. THANKS. ANY OTHER INPUT FROM THE COMMISSION ON THIS ITEM? IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. HEARING NONE. LET'S GO TO A VOTE. MOTION CARRIES RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS [9. 26-55102 Recommendation to discuss potential agenda items for future Commission meetings.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] POTENTIAL FUTURE POTENTIAL AGENDA ITEMS FOR FUTURE COMMISSION MEETINGS. I HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER DE BENEDICTUS, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER AVE. ANY INPUT FROM THE COMMISSION? IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, LET'S MOVE TO A VOTE. MOTION CARRIES. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT [PUBLIC COMMENT Opportunity to address the Ethics Commission on non-agenda items. Each speaker is limited to three minutes to make their comments unless extended by the Chair.] ON ANY NON AGENDA ITEM? SEEING NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANY NON AGENDA ITEM, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO ANNOUNCEMENTS. [ANNOUNCEMENTS] UM, AND I GUESS I WILL MAKE THE FIRST ANNOUNCEMENT. AND THAT IS I AM AGAIN, SORRY ABOUT THE ABBREVIATED AGENDA. WE DID HAVE A, UH, CITY DEPARTMENT SCHEDULED TO PRESENT, UM, AND AFTER THE AGENDA WAS SET, BUT BEFORE THE AGENDA WENT OUT FROM THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, UH, THEY HAD TO CANCEL DUE TO PRESSING OTHER BUSINESS. SO I AM SORRY THAT ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE A VERY SHORT AGENDA, BUT WE WILL ADD THEM BACK EITHER IN JUNE OR AUGUST. AND, UH, FOR THE RECORD, WHO WAS THAT? WHO WAS EXPECTED TO PRESENT THE CITY AUDITOR? THE ANNUAL FRAUD REPORT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? DO WE ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANNOUNCEMENTS? NO. WE CAN MOVE TO ADJOURNMENT THOUGH, IF YOU'RE READY. I'M MOVING TO ADJOURN. ALL [ADJOURNMENT] RIGHT. THE TIME IS 4 0 1. THANK YOU. UH, YES. THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS. WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. DID I MENTION WE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.