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JUNE 6TH.I THINK, UM, EVERYBODY, YOU'RE GOOD TO START? YEAH.
UM, I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING ORDER OF THE HOMELESS SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
UM, JENNIFER, YOU WANNA DO A ROLL CALL? YES.
AND THEN JUST FOR THE RECORD MEMBER DOUG KILLIAN HAS RESIGNED.
AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC YET, BUT IN THE EVENT THAT WE DO, I'LL MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE DO HAVE A ATTEND MEMBER TODAY.
UM, JACKIE IS HERE REPRESENTING, SHE LIVES IN THE EIGHTH DISTRICT AND, UM, WE WELCOME WITH HER TODAY.
SO LET'S GET TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA.
UM, FIRST THING ON THE AGENDA IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE HOMELESS SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING OF WEDNESDAY, APRIL 1ST, 2026.
IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE OR SECOND? SECOND.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION? HEY, ANGELA.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES OF THE SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE OF, OF APRIL 1ST, SAY AYE.
RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE UPDATES FROM THE MAYOR FUND AND POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE, SUBCOMMITTEES AND THE CONTINUUM OF CARE.
UM, HOMELESS SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE REPRESENTATIVE.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION? SO, MOVE SECOND.
JIM IS SICK AND WE DIDN'T, HE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT.
UM, JEFF, I, I NEED TO ASK SOMETHING FOR HIM AFTER THE MEETING.
WE DO HAVE AN UPCOMING MEETING ON MONDAY THE EIGHTH.
SARAH, THE POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE MET ON THE SECOND MONDAY OF LAST MONTH, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THREE TOPICS.
YOU CAN SEE DOCUMENTS RELATED TO ALL THREE OF 'EM IN YOUR MEETING PACKET.
UM, SO BRIEFLY, WE HAVE AGENDA ITEMS FOR TWO OF THEM, SO I WON'T GO TOO DEEPLY INTO THEM NOW.
UM, BUT ONE OF THEM WAS, WE WORKED ON FINALIZING OUR ANNUAL REPORT, WHICH YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU HERE FOR KIND OF A SECOND LOOK BEFORE WE FINALIZE IT AND SUBMIT IT TO THE CITY.
SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR HAYSTACK TO CONSIDER, UH, FUNDING A PILOT PROGRAM THROUGH THE MAYOR'S FUND.
SO THAT'S ALSO ON THIS COMMITTEE'S AGENDA LATER.
UM, BUT THE THIRD ITEM IS NOT ON THE AGENDA ELSEWHERE, SO I'LL, I'LL DIG INTO THAT.
AT OUR LAST HAYSAK MEETING, UM, THERE WAS A PUBLIC COMMENT THAT MAYBE HAYSAK SHOULD CONSIDER WRITING A LETTER OR MAKING A STATEMENT ABOUT THE FENCE BUILT AROUND THE VILLAGE, JEAN KING, A PUBLIC LIBRARY THAT REMOVED THE AGREEMENT THERE.
SO WE DISCUSSED THAT IN OUR POLICY COMMITTEE MEETING, AND WE DECIDED WE DID WANT TO PRESENT THE DRAFT LETTER TO HAYSTACK TO CONSIDER SUBMITTING TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.
UM, YOU CAN SEE A COPY OF THAT DRAFT LETTER IN YOUR PACKET.
UM, BUT WHAT WE ESSENTIALLY SAID WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR CITY FACES SIGNIFICANT CUTS TO HOMELESS SERVICES FUNDING THIS YEAR, INCLUDING FROM THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND.
WE'RE GETTING LESS FUNDING, THERE'S CUTS TO COUNTY FUNDING.
AND SO WE'RE WORRIED AS HAYSTACK ABOUT THE IMPACT ON SHELTER RATES, WHICH ARE SOMETHING WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON, SHELTERING MORE UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS.
UM, WE'RE ALSO WORRIED ABOUT PUBLIC CONSULTATION AROUND FENCING PROJECTS, AND IN PARTICULAR THE DISPLACEMENT OF FROM AROUND THE VILLAGE LIBRARY.
UM, SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE FULL DRAFT LETTER IN FRONT OF YOU,
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BUT WE MADE A COUPLE OF RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE THAT, YOU KNOW, GIVE, GIVEN THIS ACTION AND EXPENDITURE OF NEARLY $800,000 ON A FENCE AROUND THE LIBRARY.AND GIVEN THAT THAT'S ALONGSIDE CUTS TO HOMELESS SERVICES, INCLUDING SHELTER, UM, WE THINK THERE SHOULD BE MORE PUBLIC CONSULTATIONS ON FUTURE FENCING PROJECTS.
UM, AND THERE REALLY SHOULD BE A PRIORITIZATION OF MAKING SURE THE CITY CAN OFFER SHELTER TO PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE DISPLACED BY FENCING PROJECTS.
UM, AND LIANA BROUGHT UP THE POINT OF, AS WE HEAD INTO THE OLYMPICS IN TWO YEARS, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF PRESSURE ON PUBLIC OFFICIALS TO ADDRESS ENCAMPMENTS IN THE CITY.
AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S ADEQUATE PUBLIC CONSULTATION AND APPROPRIATE SERVICES OFFERED TO PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THIS PUBLIC PRESSURE.
SO THE LISTED RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE IN THIS LETTER ARE THAT CITY OFFICIALS SHOULD CONSULT ASAP BEFORE FUTURE FENCING AND DISPLACEMENT PROJECTS.
HOMELESS SERVICES STAFF SHOULD ALSO BE CONSULTED BEFORE FUTURE FENCING PROJECTS.
UM, THE CITY SHOULD IDENTIFY THE PRECISE GOALS THAT IS TRYING TO ACHIEVE THROUGH FENCING PROJECTS BEFORE APPROVING THE FUNDING FOR THOSE PROJECTS.
UM, THE CITY SHOULD REGULARLY EVALUATE THAT FENCING PROJECTS HAVE MET THE STATED BILLS OF THE EXPENDITURE OR PROJECT, AND THE CITY SHOULD NOT APPROVE FUNDING FOR FENCING PROJECTS WITHOUT THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE SHELTER OPTIONS TO ENCAMPMENT RESIDENTS IN ADVANCE OF THAT BARRIER BEING ERECTED.
SO IN HERE IN THE CLOSING PARAGRAPH, WE KIND OF TALK ABOUT THERE ARE HIGH PROFILE EVENTS COMING TO LONG BEACH, SUCH AS THE OLYMPICS.
WE KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE PRESSURE TO ADDRESS ENCAMPMENTS, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE CITY IS COMMITTED, UM, TO HUMAN CENTERED POLICY MAKING AND CONSULTATION ON THAT.
SO I'M GLAD TO READ THE LETTER VERBATIM, UH, TO YOU IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE THAT.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE TO TAKE COMMENTS TODAY OR ANY CHANGES OR SUGGESTIONS OR, YOU KNOW, THOUGHTS ON SENDING THIS LETTER TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.
SO I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR COMMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS NOW, OR QUESTIONS.
WHAT ARE SOME OF THE SOLUTIONS THOUGH, TO HOUSING? RIGHT.
SO WE HAVE ENOUGH SHELTER BEDS, ESSENTIALLY NONE, RIGHT? SO WITH THE IDEA IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO PRESENT SOME OF THE IDEAS OF, UM, MAYBE SOME PRIVATE HOMES OR, UH, YOU KNOW, TRANSITIONAL HOUSES AS FAR AS, UH, BECAUSE I ASKED WHAT IT WOULD COST TO HOUSE INDIVIDUAL IN AN ACTUAL SHELTER.
IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE THAN, THAN A TRANSITIONAL HOME.
AND OBVIOUSLY FAR LESS OF A STERILE ENVIRONMENT.
SO THERE'S MORE STERILE IN PRIVATE HOMES.
UM, BUT JUST THERE'S, THERE'S PLENTY OF TRANSITIONAL, THERE'S A LOT OF TRANSITIONAL HOMES, UM, THAT ARE AROUND THAT.
IF THEY WERE ABLE TO UTILIZE SOME OF THE FUNDS THEY WOULD USE TO PUT 'EM IN AN ACTUAL SHELTER WHERE THEY LESS LIKELY WANT TO STAY AND PUT 'EM IN AN ACTUAL PRIVATE RESIDENCE WHERE THEY'RE MORE LIKELY TO WANT TO STAY, ESPECIALLY IF IT COMES WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, A FAMILY MEAL.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL, THEIR OWNER TO HELP THEM COORDINATE THEIR, UM, HOME HEALTH AND, UH, SERVICES THAT THEY NEED.
'CAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO SERVE THOSE INDIVIDUALS TYPICALLY IN THE SHELTER.
AND SO SOME OF THESE PEOPLE ARE GETTING DISCHARGED FROM HOSPITALS.
UM, SOME OF 'EM STILL NEED IV AND THEY'RE DOING THE IV IN A SHELTER, UH, IN A LESS OF A STERILE ENVIRONMENT, AND THEY GET THE ONE TIME, YOU KNOW, FOLLOW UP FROM THE HOSPITAL, BUT THEN THAT'S A LOST INDIVIDUAL.
SO MAYBE PRESENTING, MAYBE REPURPOSED SOME OF THOSE FUNDS THAT WERE UTILIZED FOR THAT THERE WOULD BE A SAVINGS THERE.
SO THAT I'M SAYING MOVING FORWARD, I'M JUST THINKING OF IDEAS TO BE REPURPOSE SOME THOSE FILES.
UM, JENNIFER, CAN YOU MOVE IT DOWN TO WHERE THE, THE IDEA, THE NUMBERED? YEAH.
UM, THEY MAKE CONSULTATION WITH THE HOMELESS SERVICES STAFF AND CASE ACT WOULD RESULT IN DISCUSSION OF OPTIONS, WHETHER IT A DAY SHELTER OR OVERNIGHT SHELTER, WHATEVER ALTERNATIVES COULD BE MADE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE DISPLACED.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION? UM, I DON'T LIVE DOWN HERE, SO I'M NOT DOWN HERE VERY OFTEN.
WELL, DOWN HERE IS IN THE, NOT THERE, RIGHT? NO, IN THE ETHEL DOWNTOWN.
DOWNTOWN, RIGHT NEAR THE LIBRARY.
I DON'T LIVE DOWN THAT IN THAT AREA, SO I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE STILL THERE.
WELL, WHEN DOES ANYBODY HERE EVER SEE WHEN IT'S CLOSED? WHEN THE LIBRARY IS CLOSED, WHICH IS TWO DAYS A WEEK AND ALL EVENINGS, RIGHT? THE FENCE, UH, THE FENCE IS LOCKED RIGHT UNDER THE GATE.
SO THERE'S NOBODY WHO CAN USE THAT SHADED SPACE ANYMORE.
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DURING THE DAY IT IS LOCKED.SO THERE IS NO, OH, IT IS, YES.
THERE IS NO ACCESS TO THE FENCED AREA UNLESS SOME AUTHORIZED PERSON WALKS THE MANY GATES AROUND THE FENCING THAT ARE ALWAYS LOCKED.
WELL, HOW ARE PEOPLE GETTING LOCKED? WELL, THAT THE ONLY, THERE'S ONLY HALFWAY TO THE DOOR.
NOW, THERE USED TO BE TWO, WELL, AND SOMETIMES THREE, BUT THERE'S ONLY ONE ENTRANCE NOW.
AND YOU ARE
UM, AND SO THE BACK ENTRANCE, WHICH WAS AN AUTOMATIC, UH, SLIDING DOORS, NO LONGER FUNCTIONS.
AND THERE'S, AND SO YOU CAN'T GO OUT AND YOU CANNOT COME IN THROUGH THAT ENTRANCE.
THE ONLY TIME I HAVE SEEN THAT I'M NOT DOWN THERE EVERY DAY, BUT THE ONLY TIME I HAVE SEEN THE FENCE AREA USED AND THE FENCING GOES ALL ALONG, THE ENTIRE BROADWAY FACADE, ALL OF THE PACIFIC FACADE AND ALL OF THE, THE FACADE THAT FACES LINCOLN PARK, AGAIN, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ENTRANCE, THAT'S NO LONGER IN USE.
AND THE ONLY TIME I'VE SEEN A SMALL, LIKE MAYBE A QUARTER OF THIS FENCE AREA USED SINCE IT'S BEEN INAUGURATED, IS THAT THE LIBRARY CONDUCTED WHAT LOOKED LIKE A REALLY GREAT EVENT FOR FAMILIES AND THEIR CHILDREN THAT TOOK UP A LITTLE BIT OF SPACE ON ONE SIDE OF THE ENTRANCE AND A LITTLE BIT OF SPACE ON THE OTHER.
AND ALL THE REST OF THAT SPACE IS NOW LOCKED AND NOT AVAILABLE TO ANYBODY IN TERMS OF WHO'S STILL THERE.
THERE ARE, OF COURSE, NOBODY IS PARTICULARLY HANGING OUT NOW ON THE KIND OF PORCH AREA AROUND.
UM, AND PEOPLE WERE, WERE REPEATEDLY APPROACHED BY OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, THE, ESPECIALLY THE WEEK BEFORE THIS, YOU KNOW, THE FINAL FENCING WAS A FOOT IN.
AND WE'RE WE'RE WARNED THAT IF ANYBODY IS HERE AFTER THE FENCE IS COMPLETELY INSTALLED, YOU WILL BE SILENT.
AND WHAT I NOW IS THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF DOZENS THAT THERE ARE, THERE'S STILL A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE WHO LOOK FOR SHADE AND FIND A, A PLACE TO SIT.
THERE'S FOLKS ON THE SUNNY SIDE, I GUESS THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, WHICH JUST BIT WHO YOU KNOW, BUT AS LONG AS THEY CAN TOLERATE THE SUN THERE, A COUPLE OF PEOPLE ARE HANGING OUT THERE.
AND THEN THERE'S A HANDFUL OF HOMELESS WHO HAVE FOUND SHADE IN THE WALKWAY THAT HAS SOME MINIMAL TREES AND THE BATHROOM AREA.
SO INDEED, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE HANGING AROUND IS CERTAINLY SMALLER.
I, I HAVE NO CLUE AS TO WHERE FOLKS TO HAVE RELOCATED TO.
I KNOW THE FOLKS THAT I'VE TAUGHT TO THAT ARE HOMELESS THERE FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE NO CHOICES, THAT THERE'S NO WAY TO GET OUT OF THE SUN.
UH, AND THAT THEY DEFINITELY NOW DO NOT FEEL LIKE THE LIBRARY IS SPACE FOR THAT.
WE KEEP MOVING AROUND FOR SURE.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE DRAFT LETTER? UM, I WOULD LIKE TO FLAG, UM, IN RESPONSE TO STEVEN'S SUGGESTION THAT I THINK SOME OF YOUR SUGGESTION IS COVERED IN OUR LIKE ANNUAL REPORT.
WHERE IT SAYS, LET'S LOOK FOR LESS EXPENSIVE, UM, ALTERNATIVES TO SHELTER.
AND SO WE COULD ADD A, LIKE A SENTENCE TO THIS LETTER IF THE COMMITTEE WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD THAT SAYS, AS WE STATED IN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS IN OUR ANNUAL REPORT, THE CITY COULD CONSIDER LESS EXPENSIVE AND ALTERNATIVE SHELTER OPTIONS
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THAT ARE MAYBE MORE DESIRABLE.I JUST, YOU ALWAYS LIKE TO BE SOLUTION ORIENTED DIFFERENTLY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? UM, OKAY.
UM, WE DID GET A COUPLE OF MEMBERS OF ONE, SO, UM, UH, WE COULD FINISH THE CC AN UPDATE AND THEN, OKAY.
JULIE, JUST REALLY QUICK TO SUMMARIZE ON THIS.
SO SHOULD WE BRING THIS BACK WITH THE REVISIONS TO THE NEXT, UM, CASE ACT MEETING TO APPROVE AND MOVE FORWARD? OR WHAT, WHAT SHOULD BE THE ACTION? OH, IT COULD BE A NUMBER.
UM, IT'S WHATEVER MOTION IS PRESENTED.
UM, IF THERE AREN'T ANY CHANGES TO THIS, WE CAN, SOMEBODY CAN MAKE A MOTION.
I MEAN, I DO FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU DID HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT IN LOCK ONE AND TWO THAT THEY CONSULT WITH US, THAT THOSE CAN BE PRESENTED TO THEM.
SO I THINK IT'S GOOD AS JUST MOVE FORWARD SO WE CAN GET THIS OUT.
SO I MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE, UH, LETTER AS, IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND.
SO WE'LL JUST LEAVE IT AS IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS THAT YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE TOWARDS, UM, THIS RECOMMENDATION.
YOU GUYS CAN EMAIL US AND THEN DURING THE NEXT MEETING, UH, WE WILL ADD IT AS ITEM TO APPROVE, TO MOVE FORWARD.
BUT IT WAS INCLUDED IN THIS AGENDA PACKET.
RIGHT, BUT IT BEEN RELEASED JUST AS A DISCUSSION.
IT'S NOT ON HERE AS AN APPROVAL, SO.
WE CAN IZE IT AS APPROVAL FOR NEXT MONTH AND THEN, OR I GUESS TWO MONTHS FROM NOW.
AND THEN, SO WE CAN'T DO IT UNDER, UM, THE, UM, MAYOR, UH, THE POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE REPORT.
BUT IT'S, BUT A MOTION UNDER THAT REPORT, IT WOULD NEED TO BE A SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT ITEM VERSUS A REPORT OUT FROM, YOU KNOW, POLICY WOULD NOT BE A ACTION ITEM.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE COMMITTEE ANNUAL REPORT THAT YOU KNOW, AND, AND THE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THAT, THAT IS AGENDIZED AND IF YOU WANT TO APPROVE THAT, THAT COULD BE APPROVED TODAY AS WELL AS THE HYGIENE PROJECT, UH, PROJECT.
SO THOSE ARE SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT AS ITEMS, BUT THIS IS WITHIN THE REPORT OUT OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE.
SO FOR PUBLIC TRANSPARENCY, IF YOU KNOW, FOR AN ACTUAL ACTION TO MOVE IT FORWARD, THAT SHOULD BE IZED ON THE ITEM OR ON THE AGENDA AS A STANDALONE ITEM.
CAN THE, WELL, CAN, CAN WE AS HSAC AUTHORIZE OUR POLICY COMMITTEE TO, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS? NO.
SO THE FULL, ANY ACTION OF HSAC NEEDS TO BE THE FULL COMMITTEE.
UH, THERE IS NO, NOTHING WITHIN THE CITY'S OKAY.
CHARTER THAT GIVES ANY AUTHORITY TO A SUBCOMMITTEE OF A, A COMMITTEE COMMISSION.
AND THEN, UM, JUST STEPPING BACK A A LITTLE BIT, THERE IS A, UM, JENNIFER DID INCLUDE A SUMMARY OF THE NAS FUND, UM, FINANCES.
SO THAT IS PART OF THE REPORT THAT JIM WOULD'VE MADE IF HE WAS OKAY.
UM, AT, UM, CONTINUUM OF CARE.
DO YOU HAVE A REPORT OR DID YOU NOT MEET? I DUNNO.
UM, I DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH TO SAY ABOUT THAT, SO I DON'T HAVE A REPORT.
ANYTHING YOU WANT TO, WE HAVE AN AGENDA SET.
YEAH, WE HAVE A ITEM ON SOME OF THE STUFF HAPPENING COMING UP.
UH, WE DID HAVE A GENERAL MEMBERSHIP MEETING WHERE WE DID HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM PATH, UH, AROUND THEIR OPERATIONS WITHIN THE SHELTER, UM, AND WHAT THEY'RE PROVIDING.
UH, AND WE HAD A FEW OTHER DISCUSSION ITEMS INCLUDING A HEARING TO CLOSE OUT OUR CDBG GRANT,
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UH, REGARDING THE PHK AT 1725, THE FORMER BEST WESTERN SITE.UM, AND THEN WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH SOME UPDATES TO THE CHARTER AND, UH, BYLAWS, UH, FOR THE COC.
AND THEN WE'LL GIVE A, A REPORT ON THE NOFO.
AND THAT'S A LOT OF OUR CONVERSATION IS AT THE MOMENT IS PREPARING FOR THE NOFO.
MOST OF THE CONVERSATIONS AT THE COC HAS BEEN ABOUT THE NOFO.
WELL, JOSEPH WILL GIVE US A REPORT, UM, ON THE AGENDA.
UM, ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THE COC? ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK ON SUCH ITEM? SAY, UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF RECOMMENDATIONS, RECEIVE AND FILE THE UPDATES FROM THE MAYORS FUND, THE SUBCOMMITTEES AND THE CONTINUUM OF CARE, UM, REPRESENTATIVE SAY AYE.
NUMBER THREE, RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS AND IF APPROPRIATE, CONSIDER APPOINTING MEMBERS OF THE HOMELESS SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO SERVE ON THE MAYOR SUBCOMMITTEE MOTION.
SO, UM, AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TWO SUBCOMMITTEES OF THE WHOLE CIVIL SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND THAT IS THE POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE THAT SARAH CHAIRS AND SOME OF US ARE ON.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO OUR MAYORS FUND SUBCOMMITTEE AND MAYORS FUND SUBCOMMITTEE IS THE COMMITTEE SUBCOMMITTEE THAT, UM, CONSIDERS ALL APPLICATIONS TO THE MAYORS FUND.
UM, AND TO GIVE YOU JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY, IT USED TO BE THAT ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS FOR THE MAYOR'S FUND, UM, GRANTS CAME TO THE FULL COMMITTEE AND THEY WERE DISCUSSED BY THE FULL COMMITTEE AND THEY WERE VOTED ON BY THE FULL COMMITTEE, UM, AS, AS APPROVED OR NOT APPROVED.
AND, UM, WE THOUGHT YEARS AGO THAT IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE AN APPROVED SYSTEM TO HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE MAYOR'S FUND, UM, TO HASH OUT SOME OF THE ISSUES AND SOME, SOME OF THE DETAILS OF THE APPLICATION.
UM, BUT IT ALSO SEEMS LIKE IT ADDS MORE TIME TO THE PROCESS, THE WAY WE'VE HAD IT.
SO IF, IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A MAYOR'S FUND SUBCOMMITTEE, WE NEED TO HAVE A MORE ROBUST MEMBERSHIP SO THAT WE DON'T CANCEL MEETINGS BECAUSE A QUORUM ISN'T MET BECAUSE WE HAVE SO FEW MEMBERS.
UM, BECAUSE IT ALL, ALL IT DOES IS, IS DELAY THE PROCESS MORE, OR IF WE DON'T HAVE MEMBERS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN BEING ON THE COMMITTEE, WE NEED TO PUT BACK ONTO THE FULL COMMITTEE AND, AND, AND WE CAN DO THAT.
UM, SO WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ON, BECAUSE WE WANT TO JOIN OR HAVE QUESTIONS ON WHAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE DOES AND HOW OFTEN WE MEET.
NO, I'M GONNA, NO, I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT IT.
SO, SO WHO'S CURRENTLY ON, UH, RIGHT NOW? UM, JIM HOWETT IS OUR CHAIR.
AND HE AND I ARE GETTING READY TO STEP OFF.
THE NEXT MEETING, UM, WE'LL PROBABLY ELECT A NEW CHAIR.
UM, AND STEVEN IS ON THE COMMITTEE.
AND THEN I'M ON THE COMMITTEE, SO AND SO FOUR OF US.
SO THAT MEANS THAT WE NEED THREE TO MAKE A QUORUM, AND WE HAVE FAILED AT THAT SOMETIMES.
SO, UM, SO WHAT WE DO IS THERE'S AN ONLINE APPLICATION FOR ORGANIZATIONS THAT WANT TO, UM, REQUEST MAYOR'S FUND FUNDING FOR THEIR PARTICULAR PROJECTS, AND THEY FILL OUT THE APPLICATION AND THEN JENNIFER REVIEWS IT.
AND, UM, AFTER AN INITIAL REVIEW, SHE SENDS IT TO ALL OF US AND THEN WE CONFER ME, AND THEN A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ORGANIZATION USUALLY ATTENDS THE MEETING.
UM, SO THAT IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS, UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE MEETING ON THE OTHER MONTH THAT WE NOT HAVING.
USUALLY IT'S RIGHT AFTER THE FOLLOW UP POLICY? YEAH, USUALLY IT'S THE SAME MONDAY, BUT BECAUSE WE'VE
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HAD QUORUM ISSUES AND OTHER SCHEDULING ISSUES, SOMETIMES WE AREN'T.AND SO, SO THE DATES ARE MONDAY OR IS IT WEDNESDAY? NO, IT'S MONDAY.
UM, LIKE THIS COMING MONDAY, RIGHT? THIS COMING MONDAY WE HAVE A MEETING BECAUSE WE DIDN'T MEET LAST TIME WHEN WE WERE SUPPOSED TO MEET YOU.
LIKE, WAIT, ARE YOU JOINING OR ARE YOU JUST COMING? YOU JUST GONNA COME.
SO IT'S MONDAY AT THIS ONE'S AT TWO? YEAH.
AND IT'S AT HOUSING AUTHORITY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? VOLUNTEERS? WELL, I'M GONNA BE THERE FOR THE POLICY COMMITTEE MEETING.
IS THAT ON THE SAME DAY? OH, NO, WE'RE NOT.
NOT THIS TIME? NO, BECAUSE WE'RE MEETING THIS MONDAY.
OH, WE CAN SEE HOW IT GOES ON MONDAY AND THEN I'LL BE DONE.
AND JIM HOPEFULLY WILL FEEL BETTER ON MONDAY.
SO, UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THE MAYOR'S FINAL SUBCOMMITTEE? I MEAN, I DO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY ON HAY SET TO EITHER BE ON THE MAYOR'S HUNT SUBCOMMITTEE OR THE POLICY C COMMITTEE OR ATTEND THE COC MEETINGS, JUST AS A WAY TO, UM, TRY TO EXPAND THE, THE KNOWLEDGE BASE THAT YOU BRING, YOU KNOW, TO OUR REGULAR.
UM, ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK ON SITE? SAY NONE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? WELL, I DO I HAVE TO DO ANYTHING SINCE WE'RE NOT APPOINTING ANYBODY? UM, WE, YEAH, WE STILL NEED TO TAKE THE, CONTINUE THE ITEM UNTIL, ARE WE GONNA ASK FOR AGAIN NEXT TIME WE MEET? YEAH, SO CONTINUE THE ITEM WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDATION.
UM, SO DO I NEED A SUBSTITUTE MOTION? THE MOTION IS JUST TO DISCUSS AND IF APPROPRIATE, CONSIDER, UM, NO, I THINK IT SHOULD BE FINE BECAUSE WE STILL DISCUSS.
YEAH, YOU CAN SAY WE WE'RE JUST NOT APPRO VOTE TO CONTINUE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO DISCUSS AND CONTINUE OUR DISCUSSION ON THE HOMELESS SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
UM, TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION ON THE MAYOR'S FUND SUBCOMMITTEE, SAY I OPPOSED, ABSTAIN THE MOTION PASSES.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO REVIEW AND APPROVE THE 2025 HOMELESS SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE, ANNUAL REPORT AND POLICY RECOMMENDATION.
YOU SHOULD ALL HAVE A COPY OF THIS IN YOUR PACKET.
I THINK YOU'VE SEEN IT ALL BEFORE.
AND JUST TO NOTE ABOUT THAT, JULIE, BECAUSE WE DID PUT IN THE LAST MEETING AND WE SAID WE WOULD, UM, HOLD OFF GIVEN ANY COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
AND THEN WE MIGHT UPDATE THE DATA BASED ON IF THE 2026 POINT IN TIME, UH, COUNT NUMBERS CAME IN THAT IS NOT PUBLIC YET.
AND ALSO, SINCE THESE WERE THE NUMBERS FOR 2025, AND THIS IS OUR 2025 REPORT, WE'D LIKE TO JUST MOVE AHEAD WITH THE EXISTING NUMBERS OF THE SHELTERED RATE AND THE PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
SO WE WOULD PROPOSE THAT THIS DOCUMENT AS WRITTEN IS THE REPORT THAT WE'LL GO.
SORRY, DID WE GET A MOTION, PLEASE? YES.
WHO WAS, AND SHE WAS FIRST AND THAT WAS SECOND.
ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING THAT? OKAY.
SO THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE.
RECOMMENDATION TO REVIEW, APPROVE THE 2025 HOMELESS SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THE REPORT AND POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS.
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ABSTAIN? THE MOTION PASSES.RIGHT? SO THEN YOU ALL DO YOUR BUDGET.
NUMBER FIVE, RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS A PROPOSAL FOR A $50,000 BUDGET PLAN FOR THE MAYORS FUND PILOT HYGIENE PROJECT TO SUBMIT TO THE MAYORS FUND.
ANY, UM, DISCUSSION? QUESTIONS? COMMENTS, SARAH? YEAH, SO HOPEFULLY THIS IS THE LAST TIME YOU'LL HEAR FROM YOU TODAY.
WE WANNA, BUT VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS ONE.
SO, AS YOU KNOW, AND AS WE PRESENTED LAST TIME AT THE HAYSTACK MEETING, THE POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT, UM, A PILOT HYGIENE PROJECT.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE WHOLE HAYSTACK BODY HAS RECOMMENDED THE PAST TWO YEARS AND OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.
AND LAST TIME WE BROUGHT TO YOU, UM, THAT WE MIGHT PUT TOGETHER A PROPOSAL TO THE MAYOR'S FUND, UM, TO KIND OF PROVIDE SEED MONEY FOR A LIMITED TIME PERIOD PILOT PROJECT TO TEST ONE OF THE HYGIENE PRO PROJECTS THAT WE AS A FULL HAYSTACK HAD RECOMMENDED.
UM, SO WE GOT SOME FEEDBACK FROM PAUL IN THE HOMELAND SERVICES BUREAU ABOUT WHAT MIGHT BE NEEDED, WHAT COSTS MIGHT BE.
UM, WE LEARNED THAT THE SHOWER TRUCK PROBABLY WILL NOT COME ONLINE THIS YEAR.
UM, SO STAFFING FOR THAT WOULDN'T BE THE BEST USE OF THIS SORT OF PILOT PROJECT.
SO WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING, AND YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THIS DOCUMENT, UM, ACTUALLY I'M LOOKING AT THE WRONG DOCUMENT, SO LET ME, LET ME PULL THAT UP.
UM, BUT, BUT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS FUNDING FOR A PILOT, UM, TOILET PROJECT.
AND THE PROJECT WOULD BE, UH, SPEND A MAXIMUM OF $50,000 OVER THE COURSE OF SIX MONTHS.
AND WE SUGGESTED THAT THE CITY COULD APPROACH THIS IN ONE OF TWO WAYS AND WE'RE AGNOSTIC.
WE WOULD LEAVE IT TO THE HOMELESS SERVICES STAFF TO SAY WHAT THE BEST WAY TO APPROACH THE PILOT PROJECT IS.
UM, BUT WE SUGGEST EITHER RENTING A PORTA POTTY FOR THE SIX MONTHS AND THEN PROVIDING AN OVERNIGHT SECURITY OFFICER TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE HAS SAFE ACCESS TO THE PARTY AND LOCATING IT IN AN AREA THAT THE HOMELESS SERVICES STAFF SAY HAS THE GREATEST NEED OR BY THE LARGEST ENCAMPMENT.
SO THAT WOULD BE APPROACH NUMBER ONE.
APPROACH NUMBER TWO WOULD BE BASED ON THE HOMELESS SERVICES STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, WOULD IT BE, UM, LOGISTICALLY EASIER AND MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO CREATE ACCESS TO A CITY OWNED BUILDING, SUCH AS A LIBRARY OR CITY HALL OR A BEACH RESTROOM PARK, RESTROOM PARK, BEACH, OR PARK A RESTROOM THAT COULD PROVIDE ACCESS TO TOILETS AFTER HOURS AS WELL AS ACCESS TO FRESH WATER.
WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING ONE OR THE OTHER, BUT THE GOAL OF THE PROJECT WOULD BE TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO A TOILET AND WATER AFTER HOURS WITH A SECURITY OFFICER PRESENT FOR SAFETY.
UM, SO WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING, AND WE GOT SOME COST ESTIMATES FROM PAUL AND WHAT SECURITY WOULD COST AS WELL AS RENTING A PORTABLE TOILET.
UH, WE'RE PROPOSING THAT THE MAYOR'S FUND FUND THIS INITIAL PILOT AT NO MORE THAN $50,000 FOR SIX MONTHS.
UM, AND THAT THE CITY GO THROUGH AN RFP PROCESS TO CONTRACT FOR THESE SECURITY SERVICES AND, YOU KNOW, SUGGEST THE MOST APPROPRIATE WAY TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO TOILET FACILITIES AND DRINKING WATER.
SO THAT'S THE PROPOSAL ON THE TABLE AND WE'D LOVE TO GET FEEDBACK, UM, FROM THE FULL COMMITTEE ON THIS PROPOSED PROJECT AND EXPENDITURE THROUGH THE MAYOR'S.
DOES THE HOMELESS SERVICES, UM, BUREAU HAVE A CONTRACT FOR SECURITY CITY HAS A CITYWIDE CONTRACT FOR SECURITY? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
SO YOU GUYS JUST ARE PART OF IT, LIKE THAT CORRECT.
GENTLEMAN OUT THERE? SO ANY, ANY DEPARTMENT ACROSS THE CITY CAN PULL FROM THAT CENTRAL PROCUREMENT.
SO PROCUREMENTS IN THE CITY WORK ONE OF TWO WAYS.
IT'S EITHER AT A DEPARTMENT LEVEL OR AT CITYWIDE.
SO THEY, HAVE YOU EVER DONE THIS BEFORE? THIS UH, LIKE THE BEARS FUND HAS FUNDED PROJECTS AT THE MULTI-SERVICE CENTER.
THEY FUNDED PROJECTS THAT HAD TO DO WITH OUR HMIS SYSTEM.
SO THEY HAVE FUNDED, UM, THEY FUNDED A PROJECT THAT HAD HAD, UM, THAT WAS FOR THE FIRST SAFE PARKING PILOT.
UM, SO THEY HAVE DONE SIMILAR THINGS.
WELL, I'M SAYING WITH A PARTICULAR TOILET BECAUSE IT THE OH, OF THE TOILET PROJECT ITSELF.
UM, BECAUSE I, I, I DON'T KNOW, JUST THINKING LOGISTICALLY, YOU KNOW,
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ONE SECURITY GUARD CAN A TOILET OVERNIGHT, AN OVERNIGHT, IT'D BE TOUGH IF YOU HAVE A CAMP AND ONE SECURITY GUARD, ONE TOILET.WELL, DEPENDING ON THE LOCATION AND, AND DEPENDING ON IF IT'S AN EXISTING TOILET, YOU KNOW, IT JUST DEPENDS ON, AND THEN WHO'S, AND THEN ALSO CLEANING OF THAT TOILET EVERY SINGLE DAY BECAUSE YOU WOULD NEED BASICALLY LIKE SOMEBODY TO JUST WITH A HUGE PRESSURE WASHER JUST GONNA EVERY SINGLE DAY.
OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE THIS INHABITABLE EFFORT ONE DAY POSSIBLY.
C HAS THAT WORKERS CAN CLEAN THE PARK AND LOCK UP THE PARK, THE RESTROOM, EITHER AZTEC OR, YEAH, THE OTHER ONE PARK.
SO THEY HAVE TO CLOSE AT A CERTAIN TIME FOR THE RESTROOM CLOSE, RIGHT? WELL, NO, IF IT IS A PARK RESTROOM, THEY'RE OPEN DURING THE DAY.
THE PARK MEAN I SEE THEM OPENING AT SEVEN OR SIX, EITHER LOCK THEM UP AND THEN THEY LOCK 'EM UP AT NIGHT.
SO WE'RE JUST PAYING FOR THAT NIGHTTIME COVERAGE AFTER 10 O'CLOCK.
UH, I THINK OURS CLOSES ABOUT, YEAH, 11 BETWEEN NINE AND 10.
BUT IT WOULD BE, I THINK IT'S JUST GONNA BE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF, UH, SITUATION AT NIGHT THAN IT IS DURING THE DAY.
WELL, I'D LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT THIS IS A PILOT AND SO WE HAVE THIS THEORY, RIGHT? WE THINK THE SERVICES ARE NEEDED.
'CAUSE THERE ISN'T ACCESS TO RESTROOMS AND CLEAN WATER IN NEAR MOST OF OUR ENCAMPMENTS OVERNIGHT.
SO THE REASON WE PROPOSED IT ONLY FOR SIX MONTHS RATHER THAN A YEAR, IS WE THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS TO SOLVE FOR HERE, AND WE WANNA SEE WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T.
IS IT USED, DOES IT KIND OF IMPROVE HYGIENE AROUND THE AREAS OF ENCAMPMENT? SO WE, WE PUT IN HERE THAT WE LIKE TO MEASURE, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS ARE USING IT, WHAT ARE THE PROBLEMS OR, YOU KNOW, GREAT OUTCOMES THAT ARISE AND SEE HOW IT WORKS.
AND THEN BASED ON THOSE OUTCOMES AND, AND WHAT YOU LEARN FROM IT, RECOMMEND TO THE CITY WHETHER OR NOT THAT CONTINUES AS A PERMANENT PROGRAM OR NOT.
SO IT'S A PILOT AS A STUDY WHAT WILL AND WILL NOT WORK.
SOME OF IT DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU LOCATE THAT'S TRUE
AND YOU KNOW, AND WITH A PILOT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE WATCHING IT.
AND IF YOU HAVE TO PIVOT, YOU PIVOT, UH, LIABILITY.
WHO WOULD ASSUME LIABILITY ON THAT? DEPENDS ON WHERE IT IS.
I MEAN, I'VE WORKED, YOU KNOW, WITH A PARTICULAR POPULATION, UM, FOR, FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND THERE'S BEEN CASES OF INDIVIDUALS UNFORTUNATELY OVERDOSING MM-HMM
RIGHT? AND SO IF YOU ARE GOING TO SHOOT UP, CHANCES ARE THAT'S MORE SECURE LOCATION MM-HMM
SO JUST BE, I'M JUST BEING HONEST.
YEAH, WELL THAT'S ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY.
AND SO, UM, I THINK SARAH AND HER COMMITTEE, THEY, WE, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO ADDRESS BASIC NEEDS THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE UNHOUSED AND THIS IS A VERY BASIC NEED.
AND, UM, WE CAN, WE CAN THROW A LOT OF OTHER WRENCHES AROUND IT.
HOWEVER, IN TRYING TO DO SOMETHING THAT ADDRESSES SOME, YOU KNOW, A PROBLEM, A VERY REAL PROBLEM, NOT ONLY FROM THE PERSONAL STANDPOINT, BUT FROM, AS DEANNA AND I KNOW OTHER PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN AND AROUND DOWNTOWN, THEY, THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMPLAIN ABOUT HUMAN EXCREMENTS ALL THE TIME.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHY, SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO ASK, BECAUSE THERE, I THINK THERE WAS, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS SOME, THERE SOME PROVIDERS, RIGHT? WHEN PROVIDING A LOT OF SHELTER BEDS IN A LARGE PLACE, THERE'S BEEN SOME, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE OVERDOSE BEEN PLENTY OF DEATH.
AND SO THEN I BELIEVE THEY'RE IN, I DON'T WHO ASSUME THE LIABILITY ON THAT.
WELL, IS IT THE, SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO KNOW, LIKE, IT'S JUST, WELL, WELL, AND WE HAVE LEFT THIS VERY OPEN-ENDED AND REALLY WANT TO WORK WITH THE, THE HOMELESS SERVICES BUREAU ON THIS BECAUSE THEY'RE THE EXPERTS, RIGHT? THEY'RE THE ONES WHO BOTH DO CONTRACTS AND PROVIDE SERVICES.
SO WE'VE SAID, HEY, WE'VE BEEN RECOMMENDING TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL THAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE SOME BASIC HYGIENE SERVICES AS A CITY.
AND WE AS PAY ACT DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BEST HOTSPOT IS.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BEST RESTROOM, YOU KNOW, RESTROOM SITUATION IS.
IS IT IN A CITY OWNED BUILDING OR IS IT IN A RENTED SPACE? BUT THEY'RE THE EXPERTS.
AND SO WE'VE KIND OF SAID, YOU KNOW, IF WE APPROVE THIS, THE CITY COULD CHOOSE TO IMPLEMENT IT THEMSELVES WITH CITY STAFF.
THEY COULD CHOOSE TO PUT OUT AN RFP TO A CONTRACTOR.
'CAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRULY THE EXPERTS IN THIS SPACE.
AND WE WOULD LEAVE IT TO THEIR EXPERTISE.
BUT WE WOULD BE PROVIDING THE GENERAL GUIDELINE OF, WE, WE WANT THESE BASIC SERVICES TO BE PROVIDED AND HERE'S HOW MUCH FUNDING IS AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE THEM.
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THE CITY ARE AWARE TO IMPLEMENT HOW TO IMPLEMENT THAT OR HOW THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT EXIST WITHIN THAT, AS WELL AS LEGAL QUESTIONS THAT COME INTO PLAY.SO LIKE, I DO NOT HAVE AUTHORITY AS A BUREAU MANAGER TO SAY, YES, WE CAN GO DO THIS.
SO, I MEAN, IF PAST THIS WOULD BE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION WITH BACKING UP FUNDING FROM THE MAYOR'S FUND WOULD BE THE WAY THAT IT WOULD MOVE FORWARD.
AND I GUESS, YOU KNOW, TO ONE REASON I'M VERY INTERESTED IN US ATTEMPTING THIS AND PLAYING A ROLE TO SEE IF WE CAN BRING IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL, TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND HAVE IT CONSIDERED IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HAVE, SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE HSAC, THERE WAS THIS REAL EXCITEMENT ABOUT THE IDEA OF THE SHOWER SET UP.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE RECOGNIZED THAT WITH THAT THERE WERE ALL KINDS OF PRETTY SIGNIFICANT LOGISTICAL QUESTIONS TOO.
AND IT'S OBVIOUS WITH THE FEDS TOTALLY GUTTING ANY KIND OF SERVICES FOR HUMAN PEOPLE, UM, THAT WE ARE NOT GOING, WE'RE NO, WE'RE NOWHERE NEAR GETTING OUR SHOWER SET UP.
AND SO THIS TO ME IS SOMETHING THAT'S PRETTY MODEST AND THAT I FEEL LIKE UNLESS WE AS HSAC TAKE SOME INITIATIVE AND TRY TO WORK AND GET THIS IN FRONT OF THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY MANAGER, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING WILL HAPPEN.
AND SO, TO ME, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS, IT'S SORT OF OUR PUTTING SKIN IN THE GAME.
YEAH, NO, I, I THINK IT'S, I MEAN, I'VE SEEN HIKING PROGRAMS AND THEY'RE PHENOMENAL.
AND, UH, I I I LOVE GOING TO 'EM.
I'VE WORKED AT ONE, UH, FOR MANY YEARS AND SO, BUT IT, IT WAS DURING IT IS HEAVILY STAFFED.
IT'S JUST, IT'S CAREFULLY COORDINATED.
AND YOU'RE, SO I'M JUST SAYING TO UNROLL IT OUT WITH, WITH THE ONE SECURITY GUARD, I JUST WANNA SEE HOW LOGISTICALLY IT WOULD BE, WELL THE SECURITY GUARD WILL KNOW WHEN THEY ENTER AND THEY'LL KNOW WHEN THEY LEAVE BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE RIGHT OUTSIDE.
AND IF THEY DON'T COME OUT IN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME, I WOULD ASSUME HE WOULD KNOCK ON THE DOOR AT LEAST TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENED.
IF SOMETHING'S WRONG, AND IF SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN, HE CAN CALL SOMEBODY TO COME AND HELP THE PERSON WHO'S IN THERE.
AND IN LIGHT OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, WHERE THE OLYMPICS ARE COMING, YOU KNOW, THE GRAND PRIX COMES EVERY YEAR.
UM, WE NEED TO TAKE A STEP FORWARD AND, AND REALLY MEET THESE HUMAN NEEDS RIGHT.
AND SO, UM, LET'S SEE HOW THIS GOES.
I MEAN, OTHER COMMUNITIES DO IT, DO IT 24 7.
AND PART OF THE PROBLEM IN THIS ENTIRE CITY IS THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PUBLIC BATHROOMS ANYWHERE.
AND NOTHING, NO MATTER WHERE YOU GO.
UM, I WAS JUST GONNA SUGGEST, UM, I THINK YOU GUYS PROBABLY DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE ABOUT TRASH SERVICE TOO.
UN ENCAMPMENTS IS PROBABLY ON THERE, BUT IF IT IS NOT A PORT PARTY WOULD LIKE, DO THEY IDENTIFY AN ALREADY RESTROOM? LIKE MAYBE THE TRASH SERVICE COULD COME BACK AND THEY COULD ONE.
I MEAN THIS IS THE FIRST STEP, RIGHT? LIKE GETTING IN FRONT OF THEM.
ANYTHING ELSE, SARAH? UM, I SHOULD WE, IS IT TIME TO TAKE A VOTE OR WE HAVE TO DO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE MEMBERS? NO.
ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC? UM, WE'RE JUST GONNA PUT A TWO MINUTE TIME.
GONNA TAKE MORE THAN TWO MINUTES.
I'M THE STREET MEDICINE PHYSICIAN.
UM, AND I'VE GOT A OP TIME A LITTLE BIT ON THIS.
UH, HAVING A HYGIENE SPACE FOR SOME FOLKS THAT ARE UNHOUSED IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.
I THINK IT'S NOT ONLY LIKE A HEALTH ASPECT OF IT, BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S JUST A HUMAN DIGNITY ASPECT AS WELL.
I THINK THE LOGISTICS OF SECURITY AND THOSE EXTRA DETAILS MERIT THE CONVERSATION AT CITY COUNCIL AND FURTHER COMBAT THAT CONVERSATION.
AND I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE STIFLED WITHIN THIS SPACE.
AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS FOR THESE TYPE OF PROJECTS ARE WHAT WE CONSIDER SUCCESS.
AND I THINK THOSE MARKERS ARE GONNA BE BUILT WITHIN OUR OWN INFRASTRUCTURE, OUR OWN CITY.
UM, AND IF WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MEETING THOSE, WHAT WE CONSIDER TO BE SUCCESSFUL, THEN WE CAN HAVE A SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM AT THE END.
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COOL.ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE OUR VOTE? I WAS JUST QUICKLY YES.
SAY WONDER IF THE CITY IS PLANNING TO HAVE PUBLIC RESTROOMS AS PART OF THE, I DUNNO.
HAVEN'T SEEN THE, THERE'S BATHROOM.
THAT JUST BECAME PART OF THE PERMANENT INFRASTRUCTURE YEAH.
AND I THINK YOU'RE GONNA HAVE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF TOURISTS WALKING AROUND AND YEAH.
HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY THAT'S A, THAT'S A, THIS MIGHT BE CONSTRUED AS A CATALYST TO THIS.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU GOTTA SEE HOW THE GONNA INTEGRATE WITH THE PUBLIC.
YOU TAKE THEM UP, I DUNNO IF THAT'S THE PLAN, BUT, BUT WE NEED TO, WE SHOULD BE THE ONES THAT PLANT THE SEED, RIGHT? WELL, EVEN IF WE DO HAVE PORTA BODIES, THEY ALSO HAVE, AS I'VE, AS I'VE SEEN BEFORE, THEY HAVE THESE, UM, PORTABLE SINKS THAT YOU CAN ALSO GET WHERE THEY CAN WASH THEIR HANDS.
THEY HAVE A PRETTY NICE, UM, I WENT TO AN EVENT NOT TOO LONG AGO THAT WAS OUTSIDE AND THEY HAVE THESE PRETTY NICE TRAILERS.
WELL, BUT THEY'RE SUPER EXPENSIVE.
THEY'RE, WELL, NOT THE THRONES, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE THRONES.
I'M TALKING ACTUALLY A, A NICE LITTLE TRAILER.
THOSE ARE ALSO PRETTY EXPENSIVE.
I DUNNO, I THINK YOU COULD FIND MY HOUSE.
I THINK YOU COULD A SPONSOR FOR THESE PRETTY NICE FACILITIES.
WELL, THE WASHING STATIONS ARE, YOU STEP ON AND THAT'S STIPULATED IN THE PROPOSAL.
IT SAYS PORTABLE TOILET AND WATER STATION.
WE NEED TO HAVE, DEFINITELY HAVE A WATER STATION.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? HEARING NONE.
UM, SO WE HAVE A MOTION SUBMIT.
I'M GONNA READ THIS BECAUSE I DUNNO IF IT WRITTEN EXACTLY RIGHT.
THE RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS A PROPOSAL FOR A $50,000 BUDGET, BUDGET PLAN FOR THE MAYORS FUND PILOT HYGIENE PROJECT TO SUBMIT TO THE MAYORS FUND.
OPPOSED SUSTAIN MOTION PASSES.
SO ARE WE DOING THIS IN ENOUGH TIME FOR, FOR MONDAY THE COMMITTEE? YEAH.
NEXT ON OUR AGENDA RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS UPDATES ON THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 CONTINUUM OF CARE PROGRAM.
NOTICE OF FINDING OPPORTUNITY.
UM, YEAH, I WAS JUST WAITING FOR THIS.
JUST REALLY QUICK TO CLARIFY THE AGENDA.
UH, THIS MONTH WE'RE ONLY MEETING FOR MAYOR'S FUND SUBCOMMITTEE NEXT MONTH IS, UH, POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE.
BUT THIS, THIS GOES TO THE MAYOR'S FUND COMMITTEE NOW, RIGHT? ADDED TO THE AGENDA.
UH, JUST PATEL ADMINISTRATIVE COORDINATOR.
UM, I'M HERE TO PROVIDE SOME UPDATES ON THE 2026 COC PROGRAM NOTICE FUNDING OPPORTUNITY COMPETITION.
I'M GONNA KICK OFF WITH SOME BACKGROUND ON THE SAFETY C PROGRAM COMPETITION FOR, UH, IT MIGHT BE NEW FOR SOME FOLKS.
SO WE'RE GONNA PROVIDE THAT, UH, SUMMARY OF THE 2026, UH, COC PROGRAM NOTICE OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITY.
UM, IT WAS RELEASED MONDAY AFTERNOON, WHICH IS WHY MATERIALS, UH, CAME IN A LITTLE BIT LATE ON THIS ONE.
UM, PROVIDING SOME PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES OF COC FUNDING FOR LONG BEACH.
A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE LOCAL SCORING, RANKING REALLOCATION IN FUNDING PRIORITIES, UH, POLICY UPDATES, AND THEN REVIEWING NEXT STEPS FOR THE LOCAL COMPETITION.
UH, SO FIRST, UH, WHAT IS THE NOTICE OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITY? SO IT'S A COMPETITIVE FUNDING OPPORTUNITY BY THE US DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT.
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THERE ARE SEVERAL STEPS.UH, ONE, UH, WE'RE REQUIRED TO EVALUATE RENEWAL PROJECT PERFORMANCE, UM, DETERMINE LOCAL FUNDING PRIORITIES FOR NEW PROJECTS, UH, DEVELOP AND APPLY A LOCAL REALLOCATION POLICY TO OUR RENEWAL PROJECTS.
UH, ESTABLISH, UH, RANKING POLICY TO CREATE A RANK LIST OF PROJECT TO SUBMIT TO HUD.
UH, AND THEN ALSO COMPLETE NARRATIVE AND, UH, NARRATIVE QUESTIONS AND ATTACHMENTS TO SUBMIT THAT CONSOLIDATED APPLICATION TO HUD.
SO, UH, THIS IS JUST A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE PROCESS.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S TWO TRACKS.
ONE FOR RENEWAL PROJECTS, ONE FOR NEW PROJECTS RENEWAL PROJECT TRACK, UH, ESSENTIALLY IS EVALUATING THOSE PROJECTS, DETERMINING WHICH ONES ARE GONNA APPROVE FOR SUBMISSION, REJECT OR REALLOCATE AND PARTNER IN FULL DEPENDING ON THE APPROVED POLICIES FOR NEW PROJECTS.
WE ESTABLISH FUNDING PRIORITIES AND ALIGNMENT WITH THE NOTICE OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITY, HOLD SOME KIND OF LOCAL COMPETITION, UH, AND THEN SELECT NEW PROJECTS TO SUBMIT TO HUD FOR FUNDING CONSIDERATION.
UH, FINALLY, WE RANK ALL PROJECTS IN A PRIORITY LIST AND ALONG WITH THOSE APPLICATION, UH, QUESTIONS AND NARRATIVES AND, UM, ATTACHMENTS, I SUBMIT THAT CONSOLIDATED APPLICATION TO HUD.
SO THE NOFO WAS RELEASED ON MONDAY, UH, JUNE 1ST, UH, THERE'S $4.04 BILLION AVAILABLE.
AND OF THAT FUNDING, UH, THERE'S 104 MILLION AVAILABLE FOR A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE BONUS PROJECTS, BOTH FROM 2026 APPROPRIATIONS AND CARRYOVER FROM 2025 APPROPRIATIONS.
UH, A SET ASIDE OF THAT OF 1.3 BILLION FOR NEW TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND SUPPORT OF SERVICE ONLY PROJECTS.
AND A, UH, TARGETED MINIMUM FUNDING, UH, WHILE NOT A SET ASIDE, BUT MINIMUM FUNDING FOR A 430 MILLION FOR PERMANENT HOUSING PROJECT SERVING FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN.
THIS APPLICATION'S DUE ON AUGUST 26TH.
THE AWARD ANNOUNCEMENT'S ESTIMATED TO BE ON, UH, DECEMBER 1ST.
SO, UH, ONE THING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF POLICY DIRECTION IS THE TIER ONE, TIER TWO.
SO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.
TIER ONE, UH, IS CONSIDERED GENERALLY PROTECTED SAFE FUNDING.
SO HISTORICALLY, HUD HAS SAID, UH, WE WANT TO, WE WANT PROJECTS TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE YEAR AFTER YEAR.
AND SO IN AS RECENT AS 2025, UH, 90% OF THE ANNUAL RENEWAL DEMAND OF ALL CONTINUUM OF CARES ACROSS THE COUNTRY WAS ESSENTIALLY AUTOMATICALLY RENEWED WITH, UH, THRESHOLD AS LONG AS THEY PASSED THRESHOLD REQUIREMENTS.
UH, HUD ATTEMPTED TO REDUCE THIS DOWN TO 30% IN THE FALL.
UH, AND APPROPRIATIONS SAID, UH, NO, YOU HAVE TO MAKE THAT AT LEAST 60%.
AND SO IT IS 60% HUD UH, DECIDED TO GO RIGHT AT THAT MINIMUM AMOUNT.
UH, IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE PERMANENT HOUSING CAP AS WE SAW IN THE PREVIOUS NOFO, BUT THERE IS AN EMPHASIS ON UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS OUTCOMES, THOSE NEW TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND, AND SSO PROJECTS, UH, COORDINATION OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY, AS WELL AS SUPPORTIVE SERVICE PARTICIPATION REQUIREMENTS.
SO THE BIG TAKEAWAY IS EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NOT A PERMANENT HOUSING CAP, THERE IS A RISK FOR RENEWAL PROJECTS BECAUSE TIER ONE IS LOWER, THERE'S MORE COMPETITION IN TIER TWO, AND THERE'S $1.3 BILLION THAT'S BEING PRIORITIZED FOR NEW TH AND SSO.
UH, I WILL SAY IN THE, UH, RENEWAL ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT HUD HAS MADE FOR 2025 PROJECTS THROUGH THAT COMPETITION, IT'S ABOUT 3.85, UH, BILLION DOLLARS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, UH, WHICH IS ABOUT 95% OF THAT FUNDING AVAILABLE.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, WHEN YOU SUBTRACT THE SET, ASIDE FROM THE FUNDING AVAILABLE, THAT ONLY LEAVES ABOUT 35% OR SO.
SO, UH, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF PROJECTS, NOT ONLY LOCALLY BUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT ARE GONNA LOSE FUNDING DUE TO THIS NEW HU POLICY DIRECTION.
SO THE 430 MILLION FOR THE PERMANENT HOUSING PROJECTS FOR FAMILIES AND CHILDREN, THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE 1.3.
UH, THESE ARE ALL WITHIN, SO THESE ARE ALL WITHIN THE 4.04, RIGHT? RIGHT.
BUT IT'S, IS THAT THE 430 MILLION, IS THAT IN THE 1.3 OR NO? WELL, 1.3 IS SPECIFICALLY FOR TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, NEW TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND NEW SUPPORTIVE SERVICE ONLY PROJECTS.
THE 430 MILLION IS WHICH PROJECTS, AND WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS IN A SECOND, WHICH OF THESE PERMANENT HOUSING PROJECTS IS SERVING FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN? SO THEY'RE BASICALLY SETTING A, UH, A FLOOR AND SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO AT LEAST FUND 430 MILLION OUT OF THE FOUR, 4.0 4,000,000,004 PROJECTS THAT ARE SERVING FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN SPECIFICALLY.
SO THOSE ARE ALL LIKE WITHIN THAT 4.04.
SO LIKE THE DV BONUS FUNDING, THAT'S ALL NEW DV BONUS PROJECTS, RIGHT? THE 104 MILLION AND NOT IN THAT.
SO THOSE ARE ALL SEPARATE SET ASIDES WITHIN THAT 4.04 TOTAL.
AND TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, THAT'S LIKE SHELTERS AND IT'S NOT SHELTERS, IT'S TRANSITIONAL HOUSING
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SHELTERS CANNOT BE FUNDED WITH COC DOLLARS.SO MOTEL CONVERSION, UH, THAT COULD BE FUNDED ON HOW YOU SET IT UP.
YEAH, IT, IT DEPENDS ON HOW THEY'RE SET UP, BUT LIKE SOMETHING THAT'S CONSIDERED EMERGENCY SHELTER IS DEFINITIONALLY DIFFERENT THAN A TRANSITIONAL HOUSING FACILITY.
SO TRANSITIONAL HOUSING CAN BE SHARED, BUT IT PROVIDES MORE SERVICES THAN LIKE AN EMERGENCY SHELTER.
EMERGENCY SHELTER FREQUENTLY IS GONNA BE YOUR OVERNIGHT SPARES.
THERE MAY BE SOME LINKAGES TO CASE MANAGEMENT, IF SO, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE A LOT OF SERVICES ON SITE WHERE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING MAY FREQUENTLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY MIGHT RUN GROUPS, THEY MAY PROVIDE CERTAIN CASE MANAGEMENT RESPONSIBILITIES THERE ON SITE.
UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST DEFINITIONALLY A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
YOU COULD CALL THEM SOMEWHAT SHELTER, BUT, UM, NOT EXACTLY SHELTERED EITHER.
I THINK ONE THING TO NOTE IS A LOT OF THIS IS SOMEWHAT CONFUSING AND A LOT OF THESE NUMBERS OVERLAP.
AND IN KIND OF LOOKING AT IT, IT'S A WAY OF SETTING SOME PRIORITIES OF WE'RE GONNA DEFUND STUFF WITHOUT SAYING WE'RE GONNA DEFUND STUFF.
IT'S MORE FOCUSED ON FAMILIES AND CHILDREN, I THINK.
YEAH, THINK SOME THINGS WILL BECOME A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR AS WE MOVE THROUGH AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN, UM, MAKE SURE YOU'RE SIGNED UP.
UH, IF YOU'RE NOT ALREADY, THIS WILL BE WHERE MY PLUG IS, UH, IN THE BACK CORNER OVER THERE ON THE TABLE WHERE, UH, WHERE SHARON IT, WE DO HAVE, OH, SHE'S GIVEN ME THE, UH, THE PRICES, RIGHT? OUR BANNER WHITE, UH,
WE HAVE THREE EMAIL LISTS THERE.
YOU CAN SIGN UP WITH THEIR QR CODE.
SO WE, WE JUST LAUNCHED THREE LISTS, ONE'S FOR PUBLIC MEETINGS.
WE SEND OUT OUR FIRST ANNOUNCEMENT ACTUALLY LAST WEEK FOR THIS PUBLIC MEETING.
ONE TO SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC MEETING ANNOUNCEMENTS, ONE FOR GENERAL ANNOUNCEMENTS AND ONE FOR FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.
THIS OUR WAY OF JUST KIND OF SPREADING, UH, SPREADING OUR REACH A LITTLE BIT MORE OUTSIDE OF, YOU KNOW, THE LIST THAT WE CURATE INTERNALLY.
UM, SO FOLKS CAN SIGN UP ONLINE.
AND SO WE HAVE A MEMO THAT'S GONNA DROP IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.
IT'S ALSO GONNA BE PUBLISHED ON THE COC WEBSITE.
IT'S ABOUT 14 PAGES, NINE PAGES FOR THE MAIN SUMMARY AND THEN SOME SUPPLEMENTAL MATERIALS.
SO HOPEFULLY I CAN GET THROUGH SOME SECTIONS AND THEN RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL IF CLARIFY SOME THINGS.
SO IT HAS TO SAY THAT HUD DOES NOT RELEASE, UH, TYPICALLY THEY RELEASE A GRANT INVENTORY WORKSHEET.
TYPICALLY THEY RELEASE A, UH, ESTIMATED ANNUAL RENEWAL DEMAND REPORT.
THEY HAVE NOT DONE ANY OF THIS, SO WE HAD TO ESTIMATE BASED ON OUR EXISTING FUNDING AND MAKE SOME GUESSES HERE.
SO OUR ESTIMATED ANNUAL RENEWAL DEMAND FOR ALL PROJECTS WITHIN THE COC PORTFOLIO IS 12.16, UH, MILLION.
UH, TIER ONE, WHICH IS GENERALLY CONSIDERED PROTECTED IS GONNA BE AROUND 7.3, UH, COC BONUS AND DB BONUS.
SO WE'RE ABLE TO APPLY FOR THESE FUNDING AMOUNTS.
OBVIOUSLY WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW HUD SELECTS PROJECTS, BUT WE'RE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR UP TO ABOUT 1.8 MILLION FOR COC BONUS.
THOSE ARE THE ELIGIBLE COMPONENT TYPES.
AND THEN 1.9, UH, FOR THE DV BONUS.
AND THOSE ARE THE ELIGIBLE COMPONENT TYPES THERE.
UM, COC PLANNING AND YOU FOR COSTS.
THOSE ARE GENERALLY, UH, FUNDED AUTOMATICALLY AS LONG AS WE PASS THE THRESHOLD.
AND THAT'S WHAT THE HOMELESS SERVICES BUREAU WILL USE TO IMPLEMENT THE CONTINUUM OF CARE ACTIVITIES AS WELL AS MONITORING, GUIDANCE, UH, COC BOARD ACTIVITIES SUCH AS THIS AS WELL.
ALRIGHT, SO HERE WE'RE GONNA JUST TAKE A LOOK, A HIGH LEVEL LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING WE HAVE.
SO ON THE LEFT YOU'LL SEE THE ESTIMATED, UH, AND AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL ESTIMATED, ESTIMATED ANNUAL RENEWAL DEMAND FOR EACH OF THE COMPONENT TYPES.
UH, ON THE RIGHT YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR ANNUAL RENEWAL DEMAND AND THE ESTIMATED TIER ONE.
SO AGAIN, THAT'S FOUR POINT, UH, EIGHT 6 MILLION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN TIER TWO.
THAT IS GONNA BE WITHIN THE NATIONAL COMPETITION.
UH, AND THEN HUD HAS SAID THAT THIS IS HOW THEY'RE GOING TO SELECT PROJECTS FOR FUNDING.
SO FIRST THEY'RE GONNA SELECT ALL THE UFA AND PLANNING COSTS, UH, OR SORRY, COC PLANNING AND YOU FOR COST APPLICATIONS.
NEXT THEY'RE GONNA GO TO TIER ONE.
AND AS LONG AS YOU PASS PROJECT ELIGIBILITY THRESHOLD, THE FIRST 60% OF ALL C'S A RD ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE GONNA BE, BE FUNDED.
'CAUSE DV BONUS IS TECHNICALLY A SEPARATE POT.
SO, UH, THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT ALL THE DV BONUS PROJECTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, RIGHT? THEY SCORE THEM, THEY RANK THEM, AND THEN THEY START SELECTING PROJECTS UNTIL THEY RUN OUT OF MONEY.
UH, THEN THEY'RE GONNA LOOK TO SEE WHETHER 430 MILLION IN PERMANENT HOUSING PROJECTS THAT SERVE FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN HAVE BEEN SELECTED.
AND IF NOT, THEY'RE GONNA START SELECTING THOSE UNTIL THEY REACH A 400 MILLION CAP.
THEN THEY'RE GONNA START FUNDING ELIGIBLE NEW TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND SSO PROJECTS RANKED IN TIER TWO BY ORDER OF PROJECT SCORE.
AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA START TO SELECT OTHER ELIGIBLE NEW PROJECTS RANKED IN
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TIER TWO UNTIL THAT 1.3 BILLION IS MET.ONE THING SUSPICIOUSLY MISSING, AS YOU CAN SEE, NOTHING ABOUT RENEWAL PROJECTS IN TIER TWO.
YEAH, SO HUD IS ESSENTIALLY SAYING WE'RE NOT REALLY INTERESTED IN CONTINUING TO FUND THESE PROJECTS THAT THEY FEEL AS IF THEY ARE IMBALANCE.
THEIR FRAMING OF THE NOFO VERY MUCH IS THAT IT'S VERY IMBALANCE THAT THERE'S SO MUCH PERMANENT HOUSING.
THERE SHOULDN'T BE SO MUCH PERMANENT HOUSING.
WE NEED MORE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING IN SSO BECAUSE OBAMA HAS FAILED US.
IT SAID THEY WERE GONNA ALL END HOMELESSNESS AND THEY DIDN'T.
AND AS WE ALL KNOW, HOUSING FIRST DOESN'T WORK.
HOWEVER, THESE VA VA PROGRAMS, WHICH ALSO USE HOUSING FIRST, THEY WORK GREAT, BUT HE KIND OF MISSES THAT POINT WHEN HE'S UP THERE ON THE PODIUM.
UM, AND SO, UH, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF, UH, FUNDING PRIORITIES.
UH, OR IN TERMS OF, UH, FUNDING SELECTION I SHOULD SAY.
UH, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL IN THE MEMO THERE.
I'M GONNA GO THROUGH WITH SOME OF THE POLICIES AND THEN WE'LL KIND OF CIRCLE BACK.
UM, SO FIRST, AS IF YOU REMEMBER, WE HAVE TO SCORE AND RANK PROJECTS.
SO WE HAVE TO DO THIS AS PART OF OUR, UH, COMPETITION.
SO ONE, WE HAVE TO USE OBJECTIVE CRITERIA AND HUD SAYS AT LEAST 50% OF POINTS AVAILABLE HAVE TO BE OBJECTIVE CRITERIA INCREASED FROM 2024.
THOSE ARE THINGS SUCH AS COST EFFECTIVENESS, PERFORMANCE DATA, POPULATION SERVE.
WE'RE NEARLY A HUNDRED PERCENT OF OBJECTIVE CRITERIA THAT WE'RE USING.
UM, SYSTEM PERFORMANCE MEASURES, UM, USE AND EXTENT OF EVALUATION ME MEASURES RELATED TO SPECIFIC, UH, SYSTEM PERFORMANCE MEASURES, UH, INCLUDING RETURNS TO HOMELESSNESS, EMPLOYMENT INCOME, SUPPORTIVE SERVICE PARTICIPATION REQUIREMENTS.
UH, THEY'RE SAYING THIS HAS TO BE AT LEAST 25% OF POINTS AVAILABLE.
AND SO WE'VE BALANCED TO ENSURE THAT THOSE METRICS ARE THERE.
AND THEN NEW WHERE THEY PREVIOUSLY HAD SCORED PROJECTS ON HOUSING FIRST COMPLIANCE.
UM, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE MEMO, YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE HOW THEY SCORED THOSE IN TIER TWO.
THEY'RE NOW SAYING THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE SUPPORTIVE SERVICE REQUIREMENTS.
AND SO THAT LAST 10% OF PROJECTS IN TIER TWO, INSTEAD OF BEING SCORED ON HOUSING FIRST COMPLIANCE, THEY'RE GONNA BE SCORED ON WHETHER THEY, WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE SUPPORTIVE SERVICE PARTICIPATION REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AS, AS THE COC WILL BE SCORED ON THAT AS WELL.
UH, SO THERE ARE BONUS POINTS TIED TO THAT IF WE CAN DEMONSTRATE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING PROJECTS ARE DOING, UH, RANK.
SO WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO RANK PROJECTS? THIS IS HOW WE PLACE THEM IN ORDER FOR HUD'S FUNDING CONSIDERATION.
SO, UH, THE ONES THAT ARE IN TIER ONE, WE'VE START AT THE TOP.
SO, UH, WE START ADDING THE, THE, THE AMOUNTS OF THE RENEWAL DEMAND UP UNTIL WE GET TO THAT 60% RIGHT.
AND THE REST FALL INTO TIER TWO.
UH, HUD REQUIRES US TO HAVE A SINGLE COORDINATED INCLUSIVE AL OUTCOME ORIENTED PROCESS FOR RANKING, UH, REVIEW AND SELECTION.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT FOLKS, UM, CAN APPROACH IT THE WAY THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IT.
AND NOW THAT THE NOFO HAS COME OUT AND WE KNOW WHAT'S IN THERE, WE, WHILE WE RECOMMENDED NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING, OVERALL WEIGHTED RANKING, WHICH WE BASICALLY, UH, HAVE SOME PROJECT TYPES BE ABLE TO EARN MORE POINTS THAN OTHERS.
SO OUR RAPID REHOUSING AND PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING HISTORICALLY HAS GOTTEN ABOUT 10 TO 15% MORE, UH, POINTS AVAILABLE TO THEM THAN OUR TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND SUPPORTIVE SERVICES.
UM, WE WERE LOOKING AT CONTINUING, UH, IN THAT WAY.
UM, BUT WE'RE NOW CONSIDERING RECOMMENDING A PROJECT TYPE PRIORITY RANKING.
SO THIS IS WHERE YOU WOULD GROUP BY PROJECT TYPE WHERE HIGHER PRIORITY PROJECT TYPE WOULD RANK HIGHER IN ORDER TO PROJECT SCORE AS LONG AS THEY MEET THRESHOLD REQUIREMENTS.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, ALL PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROJECTS THAT SCORE OVER 70% OF THEIR UH, UH, PERFORMANCE EVALUATION.
AND THEN ALL THE RAPID REHOUSING, THE SCORE ABOVE 70 WOULD BE NEXT AND ALL THIS TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, THE SCORE OVER 70 WOULD BE NEXT, AND THEN ALL THE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, THE SCORE UNDER 70 WOULD BE BELOW THEM, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
SO THAT WOULD BE A WAY TO DO THAT TO TRY TO PROTECT MORE OF THE VERY HIGH PERFORMING PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING WHILE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT A VERY HIGH FUNCTIONING TRANSITIONAL HOUSING IS PROBABLY MORE VALUABLE THAN A VERY LOW PERFORMING PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
UH, IT'S NEVER GOOD TO HAVE TO MAKE THOSE CHOICES, BUT OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE'RE IN A FUNDING COMPETITION, WE HAVE TO DETERMINE THE BEST WAY TO PLACES NOT ONLY, UH, IN A, IN A LOCAL, UH, STRATEGIC POSITION TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE MAY BE ABLE TO REPLACE MONEY IF IT'S LOST, BUT ALSO HOW WE CAN DEMONSTRATE TO HUD THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THEIR PROCESS SO THEY CAN, UH, POTENTIALLY REWARD US WITH ADDITIONAL POINTS IN OUR CONSOLIDATED APPLICATION AND WE CAN EARN MORE, MORE MONEY GOING DOWN THE LINE.
AND OR TRANSITIONAL HOUSING IN TIER TWO IS MORE LIKELY TO MAKE IT THROUGH TIER TWO THAN A PERMANENT HOUSING PROJECT POTENTIALLY.
UM, SO, UH, BRIEF UPDATES ON, UH, THE REVISIONS WE MADE.
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WE ADDED GUIDANCE 'CAUSE THE SPECIAL AND CHILDREN NOVA PROJECTS ARE RENEWED FOR THE FIRST TIME.UM, WE INCORPORATED SLIDING SCALE, SLIDING SCALE SCORING.
SO PREVIOUSLY WE WERE SCORING BY THRESHOLD.
ESSENTIALLY IF YOU PASS CERTAIN THRESHOLD, YOU WOULD GET HALF POINTS AVAILABLE, PASS THE, THE HIGHEST THRESHOLD, YOU GET FULL POINTS.
WE'RE NOW IMPLEMENTING SLIDING SCALE BETWEEN THE LOW POINT AND THE HIGH POINT.
THAT WAY WE CAN KIND OF DIFFERENTIATE PROJECT PERFORMANCE A LITTLE BIT BETTER, UH, AND MAKE THINGS A LITTLE BIT MORE FAIR 'CAUSE IT DOES THAT UP QUICKLY.
ADDED A DESCRIPTION OF FISCAL PERFORMANCE DATA DUE TO THE COMPETITION OVERLAPPING WITH THE EVALUATION PERIOD.
THESE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE EVALUATING DON'T END UNTIL THE END OF THE LAST, LIKE THEIR PERFORMANCE PERIOD.
UH, AND THEN INCLUDED, UH, ADDITIONAL POINT ALLOCATIONS TO BETTER ALIGN WITH THE NOFO REQUIREMENTS, ADDED THOSE RETURNS TO HOMELESSNESS AND SUPPORTIVE SERVICE METRICS AND REMOVED SOME LOWER VALUE METRICS THAT WERE LESS TIED TO PROJECT PERFORMANCE.
UH, WE REMOVED THREE METRICS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT EVERY SINGLE, UH, PROJECT OPERATOR RECEIVED FULL POINTS ON BECAUSE THEY WERE KIND OF A WASH AND THEY WERE KIND OF MAKING THE BALANCE OF POINTS A LITTLE BIT OFF.
SO WE FELT AS IF THEY WERE REMOVING THOSE PROBABLY THE MOST SENSE, UH, REALLOCATION.
UM, SO REALLOCATION IS JUST WHEN WE SHIP FUNDS IN WHOLE OR IN PART BASED ON, UH, CERTAIN PERFORMANCE REQUIREMENTS, THEY CAN BE, UH, INVOLUNTARY.
SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE AT LEAST 70% OF YOUR PROJECTS FUNDING SPENT DOWN AT THE END OF THE YEAR, YOU MAY BE UP FOR REALLOCATION.
SO THEY CAN BE THRESHOLD BASED.
IF THE SUB-RECIPIENT SAYS TO US, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE NOT SPENDING ALL OF OUR MONEY, WE'LL JUST VOLUNTARILY GIVE YOU SOME BACK.
UM, AND THEN HUD HAS SAID THAT, UH, THE REQUIREMENTS ARE ESSENTIALLY THAT WE HAVE A PROCESS FOR REALLOCATION, UH, THAT WE CAN DESCRIBE, OR THAT WE'VE, UH, UH, REALLOCATED 20% OF OUR A RD WITHIN THE LAST FIVE COMPETITIONS, ESSENTIALLY.
SO IT'S EITHER OR, UH, WE ARE ARTICULATING IT 'CAUSE WE DON'T DO, UH, WE DON'T LIKE REALLOCATE THAT MUCH MONEY EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
SO, UH, AND SO, UH, FOR THE REALLOCATION POLICY, HONESTLY, THE MAIN THING THAT WE'VE DONE, BECAUSE WE, WE BELIEVE THAT THE BOARD'S PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS REGARDING POTENTIAL REALLOCATION, ALTHOUGH MAYBE NOT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T IMPLEMENT A PERMANENT HOUSING CAP.
UH, THE PRIMARY THING THAT WE DID WAS REMOVE LANGUAGE THAT BASICALLY TRIGGERED PERFORMANCE IMPROVEMENT REQUIREMENTS.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF IMPLEMENTING ONGOING TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO JUST WAIT TILL THE END OF THE YEAR TO JUST SAY, OH, OKAY, WELL NOW THAT THE WHOLE YEAR'S GONE BY AND LAST YEAR YOUR PERFORMANCE WAS REALLY BAD, NOW WE'RE FLAGGING YOU.
WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT IN AN ONGOING QUALITY AND IMPROVEMENT PROCESS.
SO JUST DECOUPLING THOSE TWO EFFORTS SO WE CAN FOCUS ON REALLOCATION ON ONE ON ONE SIDE.
AND THEN PERFORMANCE IMPROVEMENT AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE ON THE OTHER SEEM TO MAKE A LOT OF SENSE.
UM, FINALLY, UH, FUNDING PRIORITIES.
UM, SO AGAIN, WE HAVE TO HAVE A COORDINATED, INCLUSIVE, INCLUSIVE PROCESS FOR SOLICITING, REVIEWING, RANKING, AND SELECTING PROJECTS.
UM, THEY HAVE TO BE EVALUATED TO THE DEGREE THAT THEY IMPROVE THE SYSTEM PERFORMANCE OF THE COC.
AND THEN THROUGH THE RELEASE OF THE NOFO HUD SPECIFIES WHICH TYPES ARE ELIGIBLE TO GUIDE SELECTION OF PROJECTS.
AS WE SAW SSO AND TH ARE GONNA BE THE BULK THIS YEAR.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE REALLY GONNA FOCUS OUR PROCUREMENT PROCESS ON.
UH, AND THEN HUD ALSO SETS THAT MAXIMUM DOLLAR THAT EVERYONE IS ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR BOTH FUNDING SOURCES.
UM, SO, UH, SOME OF THE SUMMARY, UH, OF THE UPDATES TO THE POLICY IS REVISING THE BONUS FUNDING TABLES TO ALIGN WITH ELIGIBLE PROJECT TYPES, UM, INCLUDING LANGUAGE ON NEW PROJECT REVIEW AND SELECTION BASED ON COMPETITIVENESS, UH, LANGUAGE OUTLINING NEW, UH, APPLICATION FUNDING CAPS.
SO WE, UH, AS OF THIS TIME, WE'RE NOT IMPLEMENTING A CAP ON THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE SOLICITING THAT WAY IN CASE, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE, WE'RE UP TO, YOU KNOW, ELIGIBLE FOR UP TO 2 MILLION, UM, IF WE GET AS MANY APPLICATIONS AS WE CAN, AND THEN WE GO ABOVE THE CAP, THAT'S BETTER THAN GOING BELOW THE CAP.
AND SO THEN WE'LL PROPORTIONALLY REDUCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE PROJECTS ARE ABLE TO BE SUBMITTED TO HUD.
SO WE'RE NOT LIMITING HOW MUCH EACH INDIVIDUAL PROJECT CAN APPLY FOR.
'CAUSE MAYBE SOMEBODY'S GONNA HAVE A $2 MILLION PROJECT THAT IS GONNA END HOMELESSNESS.
AND SO WE MIGHT AS WELL FUND THAT ONE RATHER THAN FIVE PROJECTS THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT WISHY WASHY.
UM, WE'RE GONNA DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT A TIMELINE FOR KEY ACTIVITIES.
SO WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS, WE REVIEWED THE NOFO, UH, MEETING WITH, UH, PROCUREMENT TEAM.
UM, BUSY GETTING THAT OUT, WROTE A MEMO.
LIKE I SAID, IT'S GONNA BE RELEASED, UH, VERY SHORTLY.
UH, NEXT WEEK THE BOARD'S GONNA REVIEW SCORING AND RANKING REALLOCATION FUNDING PRIORITIES, GUIDANCE, AND CONSIDER APPROVAL FOR SOME OF THOSE POLICIES.
UH, IF NOT ALL, UH, BEGIN OUR REVIEW, UH, PROJECT EVALUATION FOR RENEWALS.
UM, START APPLYING THAT CRITERIA, UH, TO EVALUATE THE PROJECT PERFORMANCE.
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UM, RELEASE OUR NEW AND TRANSITION PROJECT GUIDANCE AND ANY LOCAL RISK, UH, REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL.AND THEN ONCE HUD OPENS EAPS AND RELEASES APPLICATION MATERIALS, UH, WE'LL CONFIRM THE NARRATIVE QUESTIONS AND BEGIN WORKING ON THOSE INTERNALLY AS WELL AS, AS WELL AS WITH PARTNERS TO GET THOSE TOGETHER.
AND, UH, AS WELL AS THE REQUIRED TASK FOR SUBMISSION, UH, TO HUD.
UH, AND AGAIN, AS A REMINDER, THAT'S AUGUST 26TH, UH, THAT THAT IS DUE.
UH, SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT ARE REMAINING IS PROBABLY MANY.
SORRY, JUST REALLY QUICK, DID WE GET A MOTION FOR THIS? YES, WAS THE FIRST.
I WAS TALKING TO PAUL ABOUT THE, ARE WE RECORDING? YES.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS OR, UM, COMMENTS FOR JOSEPH? YES.
UM, REMIND ME PLEASE, WHAT IS THE TURF OF THE, THE COC, THE LONG BEACH? IS IT LONG BEACH? YES.
SO WE'RE ALL, WE ARE, IT'S THE CITY.
CFC, LONG BEACH IS ITS OWN CONTINUUM OF CARE.
THE LOS ANGELES CITY AND COUNTY, EXCEPT FOR GLENDALE, PASADENA, AND LONG BEACH ARE ITS OWN CFC.
AND THEN GLENDALE, PASADENA AND LONG BEACH ALL HAVE OUR OWN CFC, WHICH MEANS WE HAVE A ISLAND THAT EXISTS WITHIN THE GREATER LA COC IN THE MIDDLE OF ARTHUR.
UM, AND THIS, THE, WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF VOLUNTARY TRANSFER OF FUNDS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN GO FROM ONE CFC NO, TO ANOTHER? IT'S INTERNAL TO THE CFC? YES.
UH, REALLOCATION IS, UH, INTERNAL TO THE CFC.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU REALLOCATE? SO WE HAVE U BROAD YOUTH AUTHORITY.
WE ACTUALLY JUST COMPLETED A, UM, AN AMENDMENT WHERE ONE OF A COUPLE DOZEN CFCS IN THE COUNTRY THAT HAS ADDITIONAL AUTHORITY TO MOVE FUNDS BETWEEN PROJECTS.
SO WE'VE PROJECTED LIKE A $1.3 MILLION UNDERSPEND OUT OF OUR $10 MILLION PORTFOLIO.
SO WE ARE ABLE TO SHIFT ABOUT 900,000 IN THAT TO SUPPLEMENT CES, UH, OUTREACH EFFORTS AND THINGS OF THAT AT THE MSC TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT GOT TO SPEND.
UM, THEY THAT FOR WITH THAT AS WELL ON THE COC BOARD.
UM, AND UM, YEAH, SO GENERALLY EVERY COC IS IN COMPETITION WITH EACH OTHER.
SO EVEN IF WE WERE TO, IF WE WERE TO REALLOCATE FUNDING IN THE COMPETITION, IT DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY GO BACK TO US, IT GOES BACK TO HUD AND THEN WE HAVE TO REAPPLY FOR IT.
UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM LONG BEACH.
'CAUSE DURING THE YEAR WE CAN DO SOME SHIFTS, BUT THAT'S NOT THE NORM.
THAT'S THE EXCEPTION MOST THE OC IS THAT THEY WANT TO REALLOCATE FUNDING TO CREATE A NEW PROJECT.
THEY HAVE TO DO IT THROUGH THE COMPETITION, AND THEY'RE BASICALLY JUST GIVING THE MONEY BACK TO HUD AND THEN TRY TO REAPPLY TO REER THAT FUNDING.
SO HERE'S A MUCH MORE IMPORTANT QUESTION, IN MY OPINION, IS BASED ON WHAT YOU GUYS NOW KNOW AS A CFC, WITH WHAT'S BEING DANGLED AS POSSIBLY AVAILABLE THROUGH WHAT MUST BE ENHANCED COMPETITION, WHAT ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT THAT STAFF IS ASKING ABOUT WHICH PROJECTS ARE MOST EFFECTIVE AND WHICH PROJECTS ARE MOST LIKELY TO BE FUNDED? SO THE FUNDING, IT DOESN'T.
SO HUD'S COMPETITION DOESN'T REALLY WORK THAT WAY.
THEY'RE NOT EVALUATING INDIVIDUALS PROJECTS, THEY'RE EVALUATING THE CONTINUUM OF CARE'S PERFORMANCE.
SO THIS YEAR IN PARTICULAR, UH, I'LL SAY IN PREVIOUS YEARS, THEY WERE VERY KIND.
SO THEY WOULD SAY, OKAY, DID YOUR PICK COUNT HAVE A 3% DECREASE? HOW DOES NOW SAYING, HAVE YOU REDUCED UNSHIELDED HOMELESSNESS BY AT LEAST 25% IN YOUR REGION? SO THEY HAVE UPPED THE BAR SUBSTANTIALLY, WHICH MOST COCS IN THE PAST HAVE NOT.
UM, SO THEY, THEY'RE ALSO, YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SHIFTING A LOT OF FOCUS, UM, TO THEIR PRIORITIES.
SO AGAIN, THE IDEA THAT THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE FUNDING FOR RENEWAL PROJECTS THAT WOULD LAND IN THAT IN TIER TWO, THAT 40%, THE MAJORITY OF THAT IS NEW PROJECTS.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THOSE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING PROJECTS HAVE SUPPORTIVE SERVICE REQUIREMENTS.
SO 20%, 20 HOURS, I'M SORRY, 20 HOURS A WEEK OF SUPPORTIVE SERVICE MANDATED, UM, ALSO CERTIFICATIONS THAT THEY WON'T, UH, COMMIT WHAT HUD REFERS TO AS THE LEGAL DISCRIMINATION UNDER THE GUISE OF DEI.
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UH, HUD REPORTS DISCRIMINATION AGAINST FAITH-BASED ORGANIZATIONS, UM, AS WELL AS CRIME AND DISORDER IN THE STREETS.THERE WAS THE EXECUTIVE ORDER.
AND SO BASICALLY SAYING THAT WHAT A LOT OF PROJECTS HAVE BEEN DOING, OR SEEMINGLY A PROBLEM IS THE ENABLING.
SO OPERATING THE REJECTION SITES, SITES WHERE FOLKS ARE NOT, UH, BEING, UH, HELD ACCOUNTABLE OR REQUESTED TO GO BACK TO WORK, FOR EXAMPLE.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS IN, IN THEIR DESCRIPTIONS OF DISABILITIES, THERE'S A HEAVY FOCUS ON ADULTS OVER 62, UH, PHYSICAL DISABILITIES AND DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES.
UH, THEY LEAVE OUT MENTAL HEALTH DIAGNOSES AND THEY, UH, ESSENTIALLY REPORT SUBSTANCE ABUSE DISORDER AS SOMETHING THAT YOU CANNOT BE EVICTED FROM A PROGRAM FOR YOUR FIRST TIME OFFENSE.
BUT THEY DO NOT EXPECT FOLKS TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO CONTINUE TO REMAIN IN THEIR COC PROGRAMS IF THEY ARE CONTINUALLY RELAPSING ON, FOR EXAMPLE, ILLICIT SUBSTANCES OR OTHER THINGS THAT ARE CAUSING TENANCY ISSUES.
SO AGAIN, MOVING AWAY FROM THAT HARM REDUCTION, LOW BARRIER PROGRAMMING AND TALKING MORE ABOUT GETTING PEOPLE BACK TO WORK, UNSUBSIDIZED EXITS IS SOMETHING ELSE THEY'RE LOOKING AT.
SO HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE YOU ABLE TO MOVE OUT OF YOUR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING SO THEY'RE NOT RECEIVING GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE ANYMORE? UM, AND TALKING ABOUT RAPID REHOUSING AS A WAY THAT COMMUNITIES HAVE KIND OF ARTIFICIALLY DEFLATED THEIR HOMELESSNESS NUMBERS.
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE DOING THE HOMELESS COUNT, SOMEBODY IN A RAPID REHOUSING, WHICH IS RIGHT TWO UP TO TWO YEARS, UM, THEY WOULD NOT COUNT AS SOMEONE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
UM, AND SO BECAUSE IT'S A TEMPORARY SITUATION, THEY'RE BASICALLY SAYING, WELL, THIS INFLUX WAS ALL IT'S REALLY DONE IS MADE IT SEEM AS IF THOUGH COMMUNITIES ARE DOING THINGS, BUT IN REALITY THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY DOING TOO MUCH.
SO JUST REALLY THE ONE PROGRAM THAT HAS SIGNIFICANT EXODUS TO UNSUBSIDIZED HOUSING, WHICH IS THE HIGHER RIGHT.
BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF THE MODEL YOU NEED TO, I GUESS, BUT THAT'S, BUT THAT'S, I MAYBE I WASN'T SO SURE.
I THINK WE HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT.
THEY, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY THE REQUIREMENTS, I MEAN, THIS IS A SET UP.
AND SO MY QUESTION IS WHAT OUR EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN HERE, WHAT ARE THE MOST EFFECTIVE PROGRAMS THAT HAVE ATTEMPTED WITH SOME, WITH THE MOST SUCCESS TO ADDRESS THE HOMELESSNESS? YEAH.
BUT WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF SUCCESS RIGHT THERE? THERE'S VARYING LEVELS OF SUCCESS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE UNHOUSED COMMUNITY, THAT COULD BE JUST A SECTION EIGHT.
I KNOW THAT'S A BIG WIN FOR SOME PEOPLE, BUT IN REALITY, THAT REALLY ISN'T A SUCCESS, RIGHT? IS SUCCESS WHEN THEY ARE ABLE TO SECURE UNSUBSIDIZED HOUSING, IS, IS SUCCESS WHEN THEY'RE ABLE TO CONNECT WITH A JOB? YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THAT MEASURE OF SUCCESS? YEAH.
I MEAN, FROM THEIR CURRENT MEASURE OF SUCCESS OF PEOPLE EXITING TO UNSUBSIDIZED HOUSING AND SELF-SUFFICIENCY, YOU KNOW, THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT ARE DOING THAT BY THE ACCOUNT.
IF YOU LOOK AT SUCCESS OF SUCCESS, I MEAN, THAT'S THEIR MEASURE OF SUCCESS.
SO WHAT THEIR, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
AGAIN, I KNOW THEIR MEASURE TO ME, SO LET, IT DOESN'T HELP US.
SO WHAT DO WE THINK IS SUCCESS? AND THEN HOW DO WE, IS IT POSSIBLE TO CONFIGURE THAT IN A WAY THAT IT'S ELIGIBLE FOR SOME OF THIS FUNDING? YES.
AND KIND OF, SO I MEAN, WE HAVE IN THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS HAD, YOU KNOW, PERFORMANCE THAT IS TOWARDS THE TOP OF OUR SCORING AND RANKING, THAT'S TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.
AND WE'VE HAD AT THE BOTTOM, SO WE HAVE HIGH PERFORMING TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND WE HAVE POOR TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.
SO I DON'T THINK YOU COULD NECESSARILY SAY ONE TYPE OF PROJECT, YOU KNOW, IS INHERENTLY, YOU KNOW, BETTER PERFORMING THAN THE OTHERS.
I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUTCOMES AND LIKE THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT IT TAKES TO GET TO THAT, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT THEN COME INTO PLAY WITH THAT.
UH, YOU KNOW, FROM A VIEWPOINT OF WHO YOU ALSO TARGETING.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE SEE FOR OUR TRANSITIONAL HOUSING PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING SUCCESSFUL IS IT'S ON THE DV SIDE AND PEOPLE ARE, YOU KNOW, GETTING BACK UP ON THEIR FEET AND THEY'RE FINDING A WAY TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
WE ARE SEEING LOWER PERFORMANCE ON THE NON DV SIDE.
UM, AND I THINK IT'S HARD TO THINK THAT LIKE SOMEBODY THAT'S BEEN CHRONICALLY HOMELESS IS GOING TO SUCCESSFULLY EXIT A TRANSITIONAL HOUSING PROGRAM, SELF-SUFFICIENT AT THE END.
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UM, SO FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS, WHAT IS SHOWING THE GREATEST IMPACT IS OUR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, AN ONGOING SUBSIDY WITH, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTIVE SERVICES.I DON'T THINK WHAT'S BEING DEVELOPED HERE IS GOING TO SERVE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS PEOPLE ALL THAT WELL.
AND WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS CONTINUES TO BE, YOU KNOW, AN ELUSIVE CHALLENGE.
AND LIKE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS PE INDIVIDUALS TEND TO NOT DO VERY WELL IN A RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM.
AS FAR AS OUTCOMES, UM, RAPID REHOUSING WORKS GOOD FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN, OR NEWLY HOMELESS OR FAMILIES.
UM, SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT COULD BE FUNDED AND WORK WELL WITHIN THE SETUP OF WHAT HUD IS WANTING TO PRIORITIZE.
I THINK THAT PUTS THE CHALLENGE ON US OF HOW DO WE REBALANCE SOME OF OUR FUNDING SOURCES AND CAN WE START TO FUND SOME OTHER STUFF ON OTHER FUNDING SOURCES.
THE CHALLENGE WITHIN THAT, IF WE HAD CONSISTENT FUNDING FROM THE STATE, IT WOULD MAKE IT MUCH EASIER IF WE COULD COUNT ON MEASURE A BEING CONSISTENT ON WHETHER WE GET COC FUNDING OR NOT, WHICH RIGHT NOW IS IN QUESTION, WE COULD DO THAT A LITTLE EASIER.
SO I THINK WE'RE IN A TOUGH SPOT WHERE LIKE THERE ARE SOME POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES OF SHIFTING THINGS THAT WE THINK WORK WELL THAT ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT HUD WANTS TO FUND AND MOVING OTHER STUFF THAT WE KNOW ALSO WORKS WELL FOR CERTAIN POPULATIONS AND THAT IT'S NOT A ONE SIZE FITS ALL, AND THAT THERE ARE GOOD PROGRAMS ACROSS ALL THESE DIFFERENT PROGRAM TYPES.
AND IF WE ONLY FOCUS IN ONE AREA, THE REALITY IS WE, THE PEOPLE THAT YOU SEE ON THE STREET THAT PEOPLE THINK OF WHEN THEY THINK OF HOMELESSNESS, THAT WILL GET WORSE IF WE DO NOT HAVE FUNDING THAT FOCUSES ON THAT POPULATION.
LIKE THE IDEA THAT OUR CHRONICALLY HOMELESS PEOPLE ARE GONNA PULL THEMSELVES UP BY THEIR BOOTSTRAPS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN BE SELF-SUFFICIENT MEMBERS AND RENTING.
LIKE, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WILL DO THAT, BUT IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN QUICKLY OR CHEAPLY OR LIKE BE THE SOLUTION FOR WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY FACING WITH IN OUR COMMUNITY.
PEOPLE NEED SUBSIDIES, THEY NEED SUPPORTS.
THEY EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IN THERE, BUT THEY ALSO KIND OF DISCOUNT THAT FOR PEOPLE WITH MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE USE RELATED ISSUES.
AND I'LL, IF I CAN SAY BRIEFLY, YEAH, THE PULSE POINT, THE HIGHEST AND LOWEST PERFORMANCE COC PROJECT, UH, THEY WERE BOTH TRANSITIONAL HOUSING PROJECTS.
SO, YOU KNOW, MY MOTHER WAS A, A TEACHER AND I THINK THAT PROJECTS ARE KIND OF LIKE PEOPLE AS WELL, AND THEY'RE LIKE, ARE, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE DIFFERENT FOR EVERYONE, OBVIOUSLY.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD, AND I WORKED DIRECT SERVICES FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
I HAD ONE CLIENT AND SUCCESS FOR HIM WAS GETTING A JOB AND GOING BACK TO COLLEGE.
AND IT WAS THAT HE WAS ABLE TO DO HIS OWN GROCERY SHOPPING AND CLEAN HIS APARTMENT.
SO IT, IT, IT IS HARD TO, TO SAY THIS IS THE IDEAL PROJECT TYPE.
I THINK THAT THE BALANCE AND BEING ABLE TO KIND OF, WHAT HAS HISTORICALLY DONE IS KIND OF SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE A COMMUNITIES BETTER THAN WE DO.
WE'RE GONNA TRY TO SUPPORT YOU, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE DOING THINGS IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY.
AND NOW HUD IS SAYING, WE DON'T ACTUALLY THINK YOU'RE DOING THINGS IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA THROW THINGS KIND OF INTO DISARRAY AND MAKE SURE THAT THE TYPES OF PROJECTS WE WANT TO FUND ARE THE ONES THAT ARE FUNDED INSTEAD OF THE ONES THAT MAYBE YOUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES ARE PRIORITIZING.
AND I DO SEE, UM, A LITTLE BIT HOW THIS COULD, I DON'T KNOW, HELP A LITTLE BIT IF WE'RE GOING, IF THEY WANT US TO GO MORE INTO TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, FIRST OFF, I SEE MORE PEOPLE CYCLING OUT OF THOSE TRANSITIONAL HOUSES A LOT.
LIKE THEY'RE JUST GONNA BE MOVING, MOVING AROUND.
BUT I ALSO SEE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO DO MORE PEER LED, UM, MORE FOCUSED ON DEMOGRAPHICS.
SO THOSE TRANSITIONAL HOUSES WOULD BE MORE IN A PEER, PEER TO PEER, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW HOW THAT WOULD WORK, BUT LIKE, I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD WORK.
WHAT YOU'RE TRYING, RIGHT? I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY IS THAT COULD WE, COULD WE DO THE MODEL WHERE IT'S A DORMITORY WHERE YOU HAVE THE PEER COMMUNITY SUPPORTING ONE MM-HMM
SO YOU HAVE, YOU GAVE THAT GREAT EXAMPLE OF THE GENTLEMAN WHO GOT HIMSELF BACK TO COLLEGE AND IS HIGHLY FUNCTIONAL, AND THE GENTLEMAN WHO AS HIS WIN, GOT TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE AND GET WHATEVER IT WAS.
BUT IF THEY WERE IN THE SAME COMMUNITY, THEY
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POSSIBLY COULD HELP ONE ANOTHER AND HOWEVER THEY SEE FIT, RIGHT.BECAUSE TO ME, THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT I HAVE SEEN IN BEING IN THIS LANDSCAPE FOR 10 YEARS IS THE LACK OF COMMUNITY.
SO AS LEANNE KNOWS, AND SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE KNOW WHO COME TO THE LAUNDROMAT WHERE I AM AT TWICE A MONTH, AND WE HAVE COMMUNITY, IT'S WHERE PEOPLE LEARN FROM ONE ANOTHER.
NOT BECAUSE THEY'RE FORCED TO, BECAUSE IF YOU GIVE THEM THE SPACE TO TALK TO ONE ANOTHER AND GET TO KNOW ONE ANOTHER IN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT WHERE THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET KICKED OUT OR THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET YELLED AT OR WHATEVER THINGS MAGICAL THINGS HAPPEN.
REALLY, IT'S, IT'S THAT SHARED HUMANNESS THAT WE HAVE WITH ONE ANOTHER THAT I THINK FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS, SOMETIMES THEY AREN'T GIVEN THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO, TO CONNECT WITH ONE ANOTHER ANYMORE.
YOU KNOW, AND IT'S THAT PEER PEER THAT REALLY SOMETIMES CREATES SOME MAGIC.
AND, UM, IT'S NICE WHEN PEOPLE REGAIN SOME AGENCY, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE SEE THEM WHERE THEY'RE, THEY'RE AT THEIR LOWEST AND MAYBE IF WE CAN GIVE 'EM FOUR WALLS AND A ROUGH, UM, THEY CAN, THEY CAN SORT OF REGAIN SOME OF THEIR HUMANITIES THAT THEY'VE LOST IN LIKE THE COLLABORATION BETWEEN PROVIDER.
SO WOULD WOULD TRANSITIONAL HOUSING SUPPORT THE DORMITORY MODEL THAT, I MEAN, IF THERE'S AN AGENCY OUT THERE THAT SUBMITS A PROPOSAL THAT PASSES ALL THRESHOLD REQUIRE, I MEAN, TRANSITIONAL HOUSING CAN BE, LIKE I SAID, THERE ARE VARIOUS MODELS, BUT YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S ONLY NEW PROJECTS.
SO IF IT'S ALREADY, UH, TRANSITIONAL HOUSING ALREADY RUNNING, BEING DEFUND YES.
UM, AND I THINK THE HARD PART IS LIKE, THERE'S NOTHING THAT STOPS THAT.
I THINK THERE ARE THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO SEE WITHIN NEW PROJECTS THAT ACTUALLY WOULD MAKE THAT REALLY DIFFICULT.
LIKE, IT'S HARD TO HAVE A COERCIVE, LIKE PUNITIVE PURE MODEL.
WHEN IT'S, HEY, I WANT TO HELP YOU SUCCEED, BUT IF YOU COME IN, YOU KNOW, IN A BAD STATE, GUESS WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, RIGHT? OR IF YOU DON'T MEET WITH ME AT LEAST 20 HOURS A WEEK, YOU KNOW, I MAY HAVE TO KICK YOU OUT.
LIKE THAT DOESN'T REALLY LIKE, SO I GUESS, YOU KNOW, YES, IT COULD BE DONE.
I DO WORRY WITH LIKE THAT SOME OF THE EXPECTATIONS THAT THEY'RE SETTING UP PUTS IT IN A REALLY WEIRD POWER DYNAMIC ISSUE.
AND LIKE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT IS BEING USED, IT'S SAY, WE EXPECT YOU TO PULL YOURSELF UP BY YOUR BOOTSTRAPS AND IF YOU DON'T, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE A BAD PERSON AND YOU DO NOT SUPPORT GO AWAY AND DIE SUPPORT.
I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S THE UNFORTUNATE LIKE, REALITY OF HOW SOME OF THIS IS BEING FRAMED AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY EXPECT WHEN PEOPLE AREN'T PULLING THEMSELVES UP BY THEIR BOOTSTRAPS AND WHAT THAT IS FOR PEOPLE.
BUT THERE IS LANGUAGE THAT ALSO SPEAKS TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOUR ORDINANCES AROUND CITATION CITING PEOPLE AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITHIN THAT? SO WE ARE SEEING LIKE THEY ARE LOOKING FOR PUNITIVE MEASURES THAT YOUR COMMUNITY IS TAKING.
SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF CONCERN THINGS WITHIN, AND WE'RE GONNA DO OUR BEST TO TRY TO FIT, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST ENOUGH OF WHAT THEY'RE SAYING THAT WE MAKE THRESHOLD WITHOUT NOT, YOU KNOW, WITH NOT PUTTING FORWARD PROGRAMS THAT WE THINK ARE DESTRUCTIVE.
WE CAN JUST DO LABELS LIKE USA HOUSING.
SARAH, DO YOU SEE OPPORTUNITY AROUND THE SERVICE AND PROGRAMMING REQUIREMENTS? YOU MENTIONED THE 20 HOURS A WEEK AND WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF COMMENTED IN THE PAST LIKE, HMM, THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE CASE MANAGEMENT, THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE KIND OF EMPLOYMENT TRAINING FOR, DO YOU SEE OPPORTUNITIES IN THAT REQUIREMENT? I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S ALWAYS OPPORTUNITY AND I THINK WE'D LOVE TO SEE THAT IT'S ALSO ALIGNING 20 HOURS OF LIKE VOLUNTARY VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES FOR EACH PERSON IN THE PROGRAM.
AND LIKE WHO'S SUPPORTING THAT AS IT'S HAPPENING ARE BIGGER QUESTIONS THAT LIKE, ARE GOING TO COST SIGNIFICANT MONEY.
SO LIKE, YOU KNOW, LOGISTICALLY YEAH.
HOW DO YOU PROVIDE 20 HOURS OF SERVICE ENGAGEMENT OR VOLUNTEERING FOR EACH PARTICIPANT IN A PROGRAM? LIKE YOUR CASE MANAGEMENT RATIO IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE EXTREMELY LOW
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TO THE POINT WHERE IT IS A VERY COSTLY, YOU KNOW, PROGRAM.SO THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO YOU DO THAT IN A COST EFFECTIVE, REASONABLE MANNER.
BUT I ALSO THINK WE DON'T HAVE, WE STILL HAVE NO PLACE TO, IT'S LIKE, IN MY DAY JOB, I TALK TO CASE MANAGERS ALL DAY, WE TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PLACE PEOPLE.
THERE'S NOWHERE TO NO, EVEN IF THE PERSON HAS LIKE FOUR CASE MANAGERS FROM DIFFERENT PLACES OR DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, WE'RE ALL LIKE, WHERE WHERE ARE WE PUTTING THIS PERSON? YEAH, THERE'S NOWHERE.
WELL, WITH THE FUNDING, IF THEY HAVE FUNDING, I MEAN THERE ARE, THIS WOULDN'T INCLUDE TRENT, PRIVATE TRANSITIONAL HOMES.
YOU'RE SAYING IT HAS TO BE LIKE A LARGE PROJECT, LIKE A MOTEL.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A LARGE PROJECT.
SO I MEAN THOSE, THOSE, THOSE DO EXIST.
THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO TAKE AN INDIVIDUAL LIST.
THEY HAVE, TYPICALLY IT WAS, THEY WOULD HAVE SOCIAL SECURITY, UM, AND SOMETIMES THEY WOULD ALSO UTILIZE THEIR CALFRESH EBT AS A WAY OF FUNDING.
BUT IF THEY HAD A, LIKE A WOULD BE, YEAH.
I MEAN UNFORTUNATELY THAT SMALLER TRANSITIONAL HOUSING TO MEET LIKE THE SERVICE REQUIREMENTS, TRULY THE ONLY PEOPLE THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO TAKE IS SOMEBODY THAT IS CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, THAT'S WORKING, THAT CAN MEET THAT REQUIREMENT THROUGH THE WORK.
SO THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR S-S-I-S-S-D, I SAY THEY'RE IMMIGRANTS AND THEY CAN ONLY APPLY FOR LIKE A C OH, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR ANY OF THESE ANYMORE.
SO PEOPLE LIKE THAT, THEY HAVE, THEY CAN'T BE SERVICE DMH FOR LIKE TWO MONTHS TO, THEY GONNA COME OUT TO PLACE ANYBODY.
THERE'S REALLY NO, NO PLACE TO.
SO THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING LEFT OUT OF WHAT IS BEING PLANNED HERE, JUST TO BE CLEAR.
AND I THINK SOME OF THE, THE CONCERNS AS WELL WITH WHAT YOU WERE SAYING IS THAT THEY, THERE'S NO CARVE OUT THERE FOR SOMEONE WITH A MENTAL HEALTH DIAGNOSIS.
SO IF SOMEBODY IS EXPERIENCING SCHIZOPHRENIA AND THEY'RE THERE, IT'S, WELL, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WORK.
SO, SO YOU'RE OUT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WORK.
YOU DON'T FIT IN WITHIN THE EXEMPTIONS, THE HU'S LAYING OUT FOR THE NEW PROJECTS.
THE OTHER THING IS WITH THIS REPLACEMENT, RIGHT? IF THEY'RE NOT FUNDING THE OLD PROJECTS AND THEY'RE MAKING YOU APPLY FOR NEW PROJECTS, THAT MEANS THAT YOUR NEW PROJECT NOW HAS TO ADHERE TO ALL THESE NEW CRITERIA, RIGHT? YOUR, YOUR OLD PROJECT.
SO EVEN IN A CASE THAT WE SAY, LET'S SAY WE LOSE 20 TRANSITIONAL HOUSING BEDS AND GAIN 20 TRANSITIONAL, WHICH WE'D BE VERY LUCKY IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENED.
BUT NOW THESE NEW 20 BEDS HAVE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CRITERIA SET OF ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS AND SERVICE REQUIREMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THERE ARE BASICALLY THE PERSON THAT IS PUTTING TOGETHER A LOT OF THE GUIDANCE HERE, CREATED A CAMPUS CALLED HAVEN OF HOPE IN SAN ANTONIO.
IT'S A LARGE CAMPUS AND IT'S BEEN REPLICATED IN A LOT OF OTHER PLACES.
AURORA HAS SIMILAR DONE, COLORADO HAS DONE A SIMILAR PROJECT WITH LIKE HIS GUIDANCE RECENTLY.
AND REALLY THIS MODEL JUST KIND OF TO GIVE PROSPECT TO PEOPLE.
LIKE IN SAN ANTONIO AT THIS CAMPUS, WHEN YOU FIRST COME IN, YOU SLEEP IN A TENT OUTSIDE OF THE SHELTER AND SHOW THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE ABLE TO FOLLOW THE RULES THAT YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, A GOOD PARTICIPANT.
YOU GET DIFFERENT FOOD FROM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN INSIDE THE BUILDING AND YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE LESS, YOU KNOW, LESS, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT RULES AND DIFFERENT EXPECTATIONS.
ONCE YOU SHOW YOU CAN DO THAT, THEN YOU CAN GO INSIDE FOR A BED.
AT THAT POINT, IF YOU HAVE MAKE ANY MISTAKE, YOU GET BUMPED BACK DOWN.
AND LIKE YOU'VE SET A LOT OF, LIKE, YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE IN THE SAME SPACE THAT LIKE, HAVE DIFFERENT RULES AND LIKE, IT IS A VERY PUNITIVE SYSTEM.
AND LIKE THAT IS WHAT A LOT OF THIS IS BEING ENVISIONED AS AND LIKE MODEL, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S THE BELIEF THAT LIKE THE BEST LOVE IS TOUGH LOVE THAT IS PUNITIVE.
AND LIKE THAT MAY WORK FOR SOME, BUT IT RESEARCH SHOWS IT DOESN'T WORK FOR MOST.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COMMENTS? ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK ON SECOND? GO AHEAD.
I THINK THERE'S LIKE AN, AN OPPORTUNITY HERE WHEN IT COMES TO HOW DO WE TRY TO BRING CREATIVITY WITH NEW PROVIDERS.
UM, I I REALLY WOULD WONDER LIKE THIS IDEA OF LIKE, WHERE ARE THESE NEW PROVIDERS COMING FROM? WHERE ARE THESE NEW IDEAS COMING FROM? BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A BURDEN WHEN IT'S COMING FOR THESE OLD PROVIDERS TO NOW RESTRUCTURE, UH, THE WAY
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THEY'VE BEEN DOING BUSINESS FOR A WHILE WITH THESE NEW METRICS AND THESE NEW RULES.AND IF THERE ISN'T A NECESSARILY A WAY TO GET NEW IDEAS AND NEW PROVIDERS INTO THE MIX, MAYBE THAT'S A SPACE WHERE WE CAN START CREATING PATHWAYS FOR FOLKS THAT WANT TO HELP THAT DON'T KNOW HOW TO HELP THAT WANT TO BE ABLE TO BE A PART OF THIS NEW WAY, NEW IDEAS, UM, SUCH AS LIKE A CLINIC FOR NEW PROVIDERS JUST IN A SIMILAR FASHION.
HOW WE GET NEW VENDORS ON LIST WITH NEW PRODUCTS.
THIS SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED NEW IDEAS.
AND THOSE NEW IDEAS MIGHT NOT COME FROM THE SAME TRADITIONAL GROUPS SUCH AS AASA PATH OR A T PC.
I MEAN, I GUESS I WOULD, I WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO, TO FOCUS ON WHAT LIFE ON THE STREETS IS LIKE.
AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S OUR MOTIVATION IS TO IMPROVE THAT.
HOWEVER, WE CAN'T, UM, 'CAUSE THEY WANT, THEY WANNA COME IN AND THAT IS WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE.
AND THEY HAVE TO BE GIVEN A CHANCE TO COME IN AND WE HAVE TO DO BETTER BECAUSE HOWEVER IT'S WORKED FOR THE LAST HOWEVER MANY YEARS, THERE'S JUST TOO MANY PEOPLE SUFFERING OUT ON THE STREETS.
AND IF, IF NEW RULES IS WHAT IT TAKES TO GET US TO THINK ABOUT NEW IDEAS, THEN LET'S, LET'S TRY IT IF IT MEANS LESS PEOPLE ON THE STREETS.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? PAT, DID YOU HAVE, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR US TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK BECAUSE, UM, I BROUGHT ALL THIS FOOD.
AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT EATEN.
NOBODY'S, YOU DIDN'T TELL ME THAT.
JULIE, JULIE, THIS IS, THIS IS BECAUSE YOU ARE LEAVING AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG YOU'RE GONNA BE HERE.
SO I WANTED TO MAKE A CELEBRATION FOR HER.
SO IF YOU DON'T MIND, AND WE COULD TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK TO GO PICK UP SOME FOOD OR, OKAY.
YEAH, WE COULD DO IT AFTERWARDS IF YOU PREFER.
WELL, NO, LET'S TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK 'CAUSE I HAVE TO RUN TO THE RESTROOM,
BUT LET'S VOTE ON THIS ONE FIRST.
SO, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO DISCUSS UPDATES ON THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 CONTINUUM OF CARE PROGRAM, NOTICE OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITY.
ANYWAY, HELP YOURSELF, WHATEVER YOU SEE OUT HERE, YOU KNOW, JUST TRYING TO FOLLOW OUR PROCEDURES.
I MEAN, I HAVE MORE ABOUT LIKE THE SMALLER PEOPLE CREATING NEW THINGS IN VARIOUS WAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE RISK SETTING THAT PUT EVERYBODY TO CONTRACT, BUT LIKE CONTRACTING WITH SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, KNOW COMES WITH SOME ADDITIONAL RISKS AND WE TRULY DO NOT HAVE THE ADMINISTRATIVE LIKE, CAPACITY TO TRULY TAKE SOME YEAH.
A BUNCH OF LIKE SMALL NEW AGENCIES COMING IN ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
THERE NEEDS TO BE A LEVEL OF UNDERSTANDING HOW TO PROVIDE THIS, EVEN, EVEN IN THE, IN THIS SITUATION WHERE YOU ARE IMPLEMENTING A SOCIAL CREDIT SYSTEM.
RIGHT? YOU NEED TO KNOW HOW TO DO THAT AND MOVE FORWARD.
MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN EVEN AT AGENCIES, BEEN DOING IT FOR A WHILE.
PARTICULARLY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, CASE MANAGEMENT STAFF, YOU, EDUCATION AND EVERYONE ELSE, YOU KNOW, EVEN THE AGENCY YEAH.
SO IT'S, BUT IT DOESN'T COME WITH A BUNCH OF ADMIN MONEY, RIGHT? THERE'S NOT A LOT OF, YOU DON'T ANY INCREASES.
I MEAN, THE FIRST TWO YEARS AGO WAS THE FIRST TIME THEY EVEN GOT COST LIVING ADJUSTERS FOR SERVICES.
AND THAT WAS PROJECTS OPERATING FOR 18 YEARS.
AND I WOULD HAVE PEOPLE IN LA WHERE I WAS WORKING AND THEY'D EMAIL ME AND THEY'D BE LIKE, WHY WON'T YOU GIVE US MORE MONEY? AND I'M LIKE, YOU NOTICE IT'S NOT ME.
IT'S, AND THEY'RE LIKE, WELL APPLY FOR MORE MONEY.
IT'S LIKE, YOU CAN APPLY FOR MORE MONEY FOR AN EXPANSION.
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YOU HAVE TO EITHER INCREASE SERVICES OR THE NUMBER OF BEDS.YOU CAN'T JUST APPLY FOR AN EXPANSION AND SAY, WE WANT MORE MONEY.
WE NEED TO PAY OUR STAFF FOR NOT TO SAY THEY DON'T JUST MAKE MORE THAN 45,000 A YEAR OR WHATEVER.
THEY'RE NOW, YOU KNOW, UP UNTIL 20 19, 20 2007 CASE MORE THAN 40,000 A YEAR.
SO IT WAS AT LEAST WHEN I TEXTING GO QUICK AGAIN.
I TOLD YOU 10 50 MINUTES WAS GONNA LEAD TO ANOTHER 10 MINUTES OF DISCUSSION.
I KNOW PROBABLY DON'T SIT, WE ARE GOING REVIEW SOMETIMES, SOMETIMES DON'T.
YEAH, I JUST WENT THROUGH THAT.
YEAH, I'M NOT SURE BUDDY OF MINE ALWAYS, ALWAYS TAKES HIS WALLET OUT AND I'M LIKE, LIKE ARE YOU GONNA, LIKE, YOU NEVER LEAVE THAT ANYWHERE.
EVERYBODY COME BACK TO THE TABLE.
RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE HOMELESS SERVICES BUREAU STAFF OPERATIONS, AN UPDATES REPORT FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
UM, MAY I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED.
UM, PAUL, ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO CUT IT TO, I WANNA SAY LIKE FIVE MINUTES BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'RE NOT GONNA FINISH BECAUSE SARAH HAS TO LEAVE AND OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TO LEAVE.
I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE TO, BUT WE TRY TO KEEP IT.
YEAH, I WILL GO AS FAST AS I CAN.
UH, WE, YOU KNOW, ARE IN A TOUGH BUDGET SITUATION.
WE'RE NOT FULLY FINALIZED ON OUR BUDGET PICTURE.
WE HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF WHERE WE'RE AT FOR THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR, UH, STARTING JUST IN A FEW MONTHS FROM NOW.
UH, OCTOBER WILL BE HERE MOMENTARILY.
UM, WE ARE FACING SOME REDUCTIONS, AND I'LL TOUCH ON THAT IN A MINUTE.
UH, BOTH ON THE CITY BUDGET, ON THE STATE BUDGET, ON THE COUNTY BUDGET LEVEL, POTENTIALLY
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ON A FEDERAL BUDGET LEVEL.THAT MEANS WE ARE LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS, SCRUTINIZING, UH, WHAT POSITIONS WE DO MOVE FORWARD, UH, AND AS WELL AS FILLING VACANCIES AS THEY COME UP.
WE HAVE BASICALLY STOPPED, UH, AS TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE, UH, OVER TIME TO COVER NEEDS.
THIS CONCLUDES WEEKEND OUTREACH AND AFTER HOURS, UH, FOR CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES SUCH AS EMERGENCIES.
THIS PAST WEEK WE HAD AN EMERGENCY.
UM, THOSE WILL CONTINUE TO BE, YOU KNOW, AUTHORIZED.
UM, SO THOSE ARE STEPS WE'RE TAKING.
UH, LAST WEEK WE DID, OR TWO WEEKS AGO WE TOOK THIS TO CITY COUNCIL.
UH, THIS IS OUR LA CASA FUNDING FOR NEXT YEAR.
UH, THIS IS COMING OUT OF MEASURE A, UH, THIS SPECIFICALLY FOR OUR BUREAU IS THE RENTER PROTECTION AND HOMELESS PREVENTION.
THIS IS RELATIVELY FLAT FOR NEXT YEAR, UH, AT 4.6 MILLION.
UH, THIS IS OUR RENTER AID PROGRAM AS WELL AS YOUTH FLEXIBLE, UH, SUPPORT TO KEEP YOUTH IN, IN HOUSING.
SO, UH, THIS IS A PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR, UM, AND WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
UH, THE OTHER BUDGETARY ISSUES COMING UP.
UM, SO WE WILL BE GOING NEXT WEEK TO COUNCIL FOR THE OTHER PART OF OUR MEASURE A FUNDING THAT WE GET, UH, WITHIN THE HOMELESS SERVICES BUREAU.
UH, WE GET RECEIVED TWO FUNDING SOURCES FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELESS SERVICES AND HOUSING.
UH, THAT IS FIVE, UH, MILLION THAT WILL COME THROUGH OUR LOCAL SOLUTIONS FUND GRANT AND 4.1 MILLION THAT WILL COME THROUGH OUR CONTINUUM OF CARE FUNDING.
PREVIOUSLY WE WERE AT 8.2 MILLION IN THE CONTINUUM OF CARE FUNDING.
THIS REPRESENTS A REDUCTION IN HALF.
UH, IT IS ALSO A ONE TIME ALLOCATION.
WE HAVE BEEN, UH, INFORMED, UH, FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND, UH, HOMELESS SERVICES AND HOUSING THAT THEY INTEND NOT TO PROVIDE, UH, COC ALLOCATIONS, UH, PAST THIS COMING YEAR.
SO THAT MEANS WE COULD LOSE A $0.2 MILLION.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE WHERE WE CAN.
UH, WE HAD TO ADVOCATE TO GET TO 4.1 MILLION THIS YEAR.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AS A CITY THAT HAS ITS OWN COC THAT HAS STEPPED UP AND DONE SHELTER, WE DO BEAR A BURDEN ON A REGIONAL LEVEL THAT OTHER CITIES DON'T.
UH, WE FEEL THAT SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED AND THAT THE COUNTY SHOULD CONTINUE TO PROVIDE FUNDING, UH, TO OUR COC TO SUPPORT THAT.
UM, WE ARE ALSO SEEING SOME SHIFTS AND CHANGES IN HOW SHELTER FUNDING THAT IS COMING FROM THE COUNTY IS BEING PROVIDED AND HOW SOME CONCERNS AROUND THAT THAT WE'RE SPEAKING WITH THE COUNTY ON AS WELL.
UH, ON THE STATE SIDE, GOVERNOR NEWSOM DID HAVE HIS MAY REVISE THE OTHER WEEK.
UM, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS COMING OUT OF THE STATE AT THE MOMENT, UH, BUT THE MAY REVISE HAS NO ADDITIONAL NEW FUNDING, UH, WITHIN THE HAT PROGRAM BEING PROPOSED.
UM, WE'VE JUST RECENTLY GOTTEN AROUND SIX FUNDING, WHICH TOOK ABOUT TWO YEARS FROM IT BEING PASSED TO EXECUTION OF GRANTS.
UM, SO, AND WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST COMMUNITIES TO GET OURS.
SO IT'S NOT THAT WE WERE BEHIND OR ANYTHING LIKE WE WERE ONE OF THREE COMMUNITIES THAT GOT THE FIRST FUNDING AWARD.
SO THEY'VE MADE IT REALLY CHALLENGING AND COMPLEX.
UH, WE ARE ADVOCATING FOR HALF THE LEGISLATE LEGISLATURE TO INCREASE HALF ROUND SEVEN BACK TO $1 BILLION.
HALF ROUND SIX WAS $1 BILLION.
UH, WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT AS WELL AS AN ONGOING COMMITMENT, UH, TO FUNDING A HALF ROUND EIGHT WITHIN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
SO HALF ROUND SEVEN WAS ALREADY FUNDED IN THIS LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.
THEY HAVE NOT RELEASED, YOU KNOW, A PROCESS FOR APPLYING FOR THAT.
UH, WE'RE HOPING THAT'LL COME OUT IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
UH, BUT AS IT STANDS IT WOULD BE 500 MILLION, UH, AND NOT THE BILLION OF, OF PREVIOUS ROUNDS.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT MEANS WE MAY SEE A REDUCTION IN HALF OF OUR STATE FUNDING AS WELL.
UH, LUCKILY THIS HAS BEEN MULTI-YEAR FUNDING ALLOCATION, SO WE CAN WEATHER A ONE TIME REDUCTION IF THEY BUMPED IT BACK UP IN A YEAR.
BUT IF THEY CONTINUE TO HAVE REDUCTIONS, THIS WILL MEAN, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
LESS SERVICES ON ENGAGEMENT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNSHELTERED.
UH, LESS SHELTER OPPORTUNITY AND LESS PERMANENT HOUSING OPPORTUNITY.
WE'D PROBABLY TRY TO REBALANCE, UH, TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY.
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BUT THERE WILL BE IMPACTS IF WE CONTINUE TO SEE THAT.UM, THERE IS SOME OPPORTUNITY.
RIGHT NOW THE STATE HAS, UH, PUT OUT A ROUND FIVE FOR THE ENCAMPMENT RESOLUTION FUND.
UH, IT IS DUE SIX, UH, AT THE END OF JUNE.
WE ARE DOING AN ASSESSMENT ALONG THE UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD AS THIS ROUND REQUIRES IT, UH, PROPOSALS TO BE ON STATE RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH THE RAILROAD IS ACTUALLY A PART OF STATE RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO PUT FORWARD A PROPOSAL BY THE END OF JUNE AND THEN, UH, UH, JOSEPH WENT OVER THE NOFO, WHICH WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON CURRENTLY.
UH, UPSTREAM LONG BEACH, UH, RENTER AID IS OUT.
UM, YOU CAN GO TO LONG BEACH.GOV RENTER AID TO CHECK OUT THE PROGRAM.
UH, WE DID GET 2,200 ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS IN THIS LAST ROUND.
UM, WE'RE TRYING TO PRIORITIZE AND WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME POTENTIAL ADJUSTMENTS JUST WITH THE NEED VERSUS THE RESOURCE THAT WE HAVE.
UM, YOU KNOW, TO SERVE 2,200 PEOPLE WITH PREVENTION AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IS BEHIND IT FAR, FAR, FAR, FAR, FAR EXCEEDS WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE, UM, IN RENTER AID, WHICH IS ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MILLION IN FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE.
UM, SO WE ARE WORKING ON LAUNCHING A COUPLE OTHER THINGS.
UH, LATER THIS MONTH WE'LL HAVE OUR OLDER ADULT SHALLOW SUBSIDY, UH, PROGRAM LAUNCHING.
AND THEN, UH, YOUTH HOMELESS PREVENTION UNIT, UH, OR HOMELESS PREVENTION UNIT FROM THE COUNTY.
WE'LL DO A YOUTH FOCUSED PILOT LATER THIS MONTH, UH, OR LATER IN JULY OR AUGUST.
UH, YOUTH NAVIGATION CENTER IS OPEN NESS, IS OUR SERVICE PROVIDER.
UH, ALL BEDS ARE FULL, SO ALL 12 BEDS ARE OCCUPIED.
AND THIS IS SERVING TRANSITIONAL AGE YOUTH BETWEEN 18 AND 24.
IS IT COED OR SINGLE SETS? COED.
SO THE BUILDING IS SPLIT IN HALF.
UH, SO THAT ROW OF BEDS RIGHT THERE, THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A MEN'S SIDE AND A WOMEN'S SIDE.
BUT IT'S LOCATED ON THE, UM, THE WEST SIDE.
UM, UPDATE ON EMERGENCY HOUSING VOUCHERS.
THERE WILL BE NOTICE GOING OUT TO EMERGENCY HOUSING VOUCHER HOLDERS.
UH, THERE IS SOME POTENTIAL GOOD OPPORTUNITIES.
THAT'S STILL A LOT OF UNKNOWN.
UH, SO DID, HAD, DID RELEASE SOME GUIDANCE AROUND, UH, FUNDING FOR THE HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER PROGRAM FOR THE COMING YEAR.
IT DOES INCLUDE SOME LANGUAGE AND GUIDANCE AROUND EMERGENCY HOUSING VOUCHERS.
UH, HOWEVER, IT'S, HEY, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO MOVE PEOPLE OVER FROM EHPS TO HVS, WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE GOOD UTILIZATION OF OUR HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHERS AND RENTS ARE HIGH IN LONG BEACH, WE DO NOT HAVE THE FINANCE TO MOVE EVERYBODY OVER TO HCBS.
UH, WE CAN ASK FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING THROUGH THE TRANSITIONAL VOUCHER PROGRAM THAT THEY HAD ALLOCATED DURING THE BUDGET LAST YEAR.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA END, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE PEOPLE TRANSITIONAL VOUCHERS, WHICH I THINK IS DISAPPOINTING.
BUT THEY WILL ALLOW YOU TO CONTINUE TO, UH, PROVIDE FUNDING TO THE EHPS OUT OF THAT FUNDING POT.
UM, IT'S UNCLEAR ON HOW LONG THAT WILL GO FOR.
AND SO WE'RE, WE'VE SUBMITTED AN EMAIL SAYING, HEY, WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS.
WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS AND HOW LONG IS THIS GOING TO COVER US FOR.
SO THERE ARE A FEW OTHER THINGS THAT WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT, UH, AND OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE HAVE REQUESTED SOME FUNDING.
UM, AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, REINVESTMENT FROM OUR MANAGED CARE PROVIDERS THAT ARE NOW REQUIRED FROM THE STATE, WE HAVE REQUESTED CONSIDERATION FROM THEM AND SUPPORTING EHV, UM, RECIPIENTS THAT ARE ON A MANAGED CARE PLAN, UH, AS WELL AS THEY'RE LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS.
SO HOPEFULLY HUD FUNDING WILL COME THROUGH, BUT WE'VE GOT SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, ON THE BACKSIDE AS WELL, SO VERY IMPORTANT ONE.
UM, AND THEN LASTLY, UH, OH SHOOT.
UH, LAST WEEK WAS A PRETTY CHALLENGING WEEK.
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YOU KNOW, EMERGENCIES AND DISASTERS HAPPENING WITHIN THE REGION.UH, OIL SPILL ON IN EAST LA THAT CAME DOWN THE LA RIVER.
AND THEN CONCERNS WITH THE, UH, TANK GOING INTO THERMAL, UH, RUNAWAY AND GARDEN GROVE AND POTENTIALLY EXPLODING.
WE WENT OUT TO BOTH THE LA RIVER BED AND SAN GABRIEL RIVERBED, UH, MULTIPLE TIMES OVER THE MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND AND END OF MEMORIAL DAY ITSELF TO ENGAGE WITH PEOPLE AROUND THE OIL CLEANUP AS WELL AS GIVING, UH, HEALTH GUIDANCE TO PEOPLE ON THE SAN GABRIEL RIVER BED IN THE CASE THAT THAT TANK DID EXPLODE.
AND THERE WAS A LOT OF UNKNOWNS AND CONCERNS AT THE TIME.
UM, WE ARE PROVIDING 24 7 SUPPORT ON THE LA RIVER BED AS PART OF THAT CLEANUP.
SO, UH, WE ARE WORKING WITH, UH, WILD GAME AND WILDLIFE, UH, FROM THE STATE AS WELL AS, UH, THE OIL COMPANIES THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT CLEANUP TO ENGAGE PEOPLE ON THE LA RIVER AS THEY'RE COMING AND GOING.
UH, THEY'VE PROVIDED SOME ADDITIONAL MATTEL SUPPORT.
AND THEN LASTLY, WE ARE WORKING ON, UH, STRATEGIC UPDATES, BOTH IN GENERAL AS WELL AS A YOUTH, UH, SPECIFIC, UH, UPDATE AND THEN HOMO COUNTY BECOMING OUT SHORTLY.
UM, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES.
UH, THE, YOU SAID THERE'S 2,200 ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS.
HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE FOLKS ON THESE EMERGENCY VOUCHERS? UH, WE DID ASK A QUESTION AROUND WHETHER SOMEBODY IS RECEIVED, HAS RECEIVED SUB, IS ON SUBSIDIZED HOUSING.
WE DON'T ASK SPECIFICALLY WHAT THE PROGRAM IS.
SO LIKE, I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT ACCOUNT, BUT WE DO HAVE DATA AND I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT HOW MANY PEOPLE APPLIED THAT ARE IN SUBSIDIZED HOUSING.
UH, SOMEBODY ON AN EHB, UNLESS THEY HAVE NOT PAID THEIR RENT, WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS AS THE PROGRAM IS STILL PAYING THEIR RENT.
THEY'RE NOT BEHIND AT THIS POINT.
SO, UM, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE BE BEHIND ON RENT, WHICH WOULD MAKE THEM INELIGIBLE.
AND HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE AWARDED THE SUBSIDIES? UH, ON RENTER AID? UH, WE ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF SCREENING, UH, ROUGHLY 50 PEOPLE.
SO OVER THE YEAR WE'RE LOOKING TO SERVE 250 PEOPLE.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE TOOK, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT READJUSTING OUR WINDOWS.
I MEAN, IT'S HARD TO HAVE 2,200 PEOPLE APPLY EVERY MONTH AND ONLY TAKE 50.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT READJUSTING OUR MONTHLY WINDOW.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PRIORITIZATION FACTORS LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, AGE, FAMILY SIZE.
UH, IS THE PERSON UNDER 30% OF AREA MEDIAN INCOME IS, YOU KNOW, HOW CLOSE ARE THEY TO LOSING THEIR HOUSING? SO SOMEBODY FROM WITH AN EVICTION NOTICE VERSUS SOMEBODY WITH, YOU KNOW, A 60 DAY NOTICE TO VACATE.
YOU KNOW, BOTH ARE NOT GOOD, BUT LIKE ONE'S MORE URGENT THAN THE OTHER.
SO THERE IS SOME PRIORITIZATION THAT HAPPENS ON, UM, JUST THE FACTORS FOR EACH PERSON.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MS. PO REGARDING THE COUNTY REDUCING OUR MEASURE A FUNDING, IS OUR COUNTY SUPERVISOR FIGHTING FOR THAT FUNDING FOR LONG BEACH? THEY DID, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE, THEY WORKED WITH, UH, BAR'S OFFICE TO PUT FORWARD THE RESTORATION OF THE 4.1 MILLION THIS YEAR.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS INITIALLY DISCUSSION OF MAKING THAT AN ONGOING THING WITH, WITH THE MOTION THAT PASSED TO RESTORE A 4.1 MILLION.
'CAUSE THE INITIAL PROPOSAL FROM THE COUNTY FOR THIS COMING YEAR WAS ZERO TO THE COCS.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO GET SUPPORT TO BRINGING THIS UP AT, YOU KNOW, A SUPERVISORY MEETING TO CONTINUE TO ESTABLISH, YOU KNOW, THE NEED THERE.
SO, UH, WE WILL BE WORKING WITH SD FOUR TO ADVOCATE AND ASK THAT THEY PUT FORWARD AN ITEM FOR NEXT YEAR AS WELL.
YES, PAT, UM, THE STRATEGIC PLAN, WILL THAT BE RUN BY THE HS A, I MEAN, NOT RUN, NOT IN THAT SENSE, BUT INVOLVED.
WILL YOU BE, WILL YOU BE PROVIDING IT TO HS A BEFORE IT BECOMES OFFICIAL OR, UM, SO THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE LIKE AS A DRAFT.
UNFORTUNATELY SAVANNAH HAD TO LEAVE BUT SAVANNAH'S FEW MINUTES.
I HEARD IT A LITTLE BIT 'CAUSE I
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DID ATTEND THE MEETING YESTERDAY.SO YEAH, YOU ARE, WE, WE DID DISCUSS, UM, WE MET YESTERDAY VERY BRIEFLY AND YEAH, IT WILL COME FOR INPUT HERE.
YOU'RE ONE OF SEVERAL GROUPS THAT WERE INCLUDING ON INPUT.
IT'S BEGINNING STAGES, SO, UM, YEAH, NOTHING'S, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HEAR THAT IN, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF MONTHS IT GOT APPROVED AND IT'S BEING RELEASED AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF STARTING THE PROCESS.
I ATTENDED THE FIRST MEETING YESTERDAY.
UM, SO YEAH, WE'RE, RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOING MATERIALS, UH, STILL CONTRACTING, UM, UH, WITH THE AGENCY THAT'S GONNA SUPPORT US IN DEVELOPMENT AND LIKE, LIKE I SAID, THAT WAS THE STEERING COMMITTEE KICKOFF MEETING YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.
SO YEAH, A I IS DEFINITELY ON THE LIST AND WE WILL BE COMING THROUGH WITH THAT INFORMATION FOR INPUT AS WELL.
THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, YES, WHY IS THE CALC TAKING SO LONG? WELL,
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT LED TO SOME, WE WERE HOPING TO HAVE IT OUT AT THIS POINT AND WE HAD SOME THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ON OUR RADAR AS WE STARTED, UH, THE COUNT PROCESS.
BUT IT IS COMING TOWARD CAN YOU, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE OLDER ADULT SHALLOW SUBSIDY? I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS.
SO THINK OF IT SIMILAR TO A HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER FOR A TWO YEAR PROCESS WITH A MORE FIXED RATE.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY OVER THE AGE OF 55 WITH A DISABILITY OR 62 AND OLDER, UM, THAT KIND OF ALIGNS WITH OLDER ADULT AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES, UH, WOULD BE ELIGIBLE IF, UM, THEY'RE LOW, VERY LOW INCOME AND THEY ARE, UH, EXTREMELY RENT BURDENED.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL IS TO PROVIDE THEM A SHALLOW SUBSIDY, 400 TO FIVE, $600 A MONTH AND RENTAL ASSISTANCE, UH, WHILE WORKING TO GET THEM ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING WAIT LISTS THAT WILL BE SUSTAINABLE, UH, MORE LONGER.
SO, YOU KNOW, OUR OUR HOPE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SEEING PEOPLE ON THE PROGRAM FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS.
WE REALIZE SOME PEOPLE UH, MAY BE A LITTLE SHORTER AND SOME PEOPLE MAY NEED IT FOR A LITTLE BIT LONGER, BUT THE GOAL IS REALLY TO GET, UH, THOSE HOUSEHOLDS LINKED TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES, THAT THAT'S HOW THEY SUCCESSFULLY SUSTAIN IN THE LONG RUN.
SO THIS IS TO BRIDGE THEM TO THAT POINT.
MY LAST QUESTION IS THE YOUTH NAVIGATION CENTER, DOES THE CITY OWN THAT PROPERTY? CITY OWNS THAT PROPERTY AND IS CONTRACTING WITH OPENNESS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, JOSEPH, ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN, UM, LAST YEAR OR MAYBE THE YEAR BEFORE, SOMEBODY ELSE CAN UM, REFRESH MY MEMORY.
WE DID HAVE SOME SORT OF STRATEGIC PLAN SEC SESSION WITH CITY FABRIC CARBON AND CITY FABRIC AND SAVANNAH, IS THIS IN ADDITION TO THAT OR? YES, IT'S A DIFFERENT INFORMATION.
SO
UH, WE CAN FORWARD THAT LINK TO EVERYBODY, UH, BUT IT DID NOT END IN A STRATEGIC PLAN AND LIKE BASED ON CONVERSATION WITH THEM AND, YOU KNOW, BACK AND FORTH, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT WE WERE NOT GONNA GET THERE WITH CITY FABRIC AT WHICH POINT, YOU KNOW, IN A DIFFERENT CONSULTANT WAS, YOU KNOW, PROCURED AT THAT POINT.
SO THERE IS A REPORT FROM CITY FABRIC, UH, THAT WE CAN SHARE WITH EVERYBODY THAT COMPILED THEIR INPUT FROM ALL THE FEEDBACK MEETINGS THAT THEY HAD, INCLUDING WITH HAAC AND THE COC BOARD.
AND ANY MEMBERS OF REPUBLIC THAT WE JUST SPEAK ON SITE.
SO ANY MORE COMMENTS? OKAY, SO THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE HOMELESS SERVICES BUREAU STAFF OPERATIONS AND UPDATES REPORT.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED? SUSTAIN MOTION PASSES.
NUMBER EIGHT, JUST RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS AND APPROVE THE MEETING SCHEDULE FOR THE HOMELESS SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND SUBCOMMITTEE.
UM, SO AS YOU KNOW, UH, FOR THE LAST
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NOT YET, NOT QUITE A YEAR, WE'VE BEEN MEETING EVERY OTHER MONTH INSTEAD OF EVERY MONTH BEFORE WE USED TO MEET EVERY MONTH.UM, AND ALSO AS COMMITTEES ALSO MET EVERY MONTH TOO.
YEAH, SO WE, WE HAD DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS AND UM, IT DIDN'T FEEL LIKE WE WERE TWICE AS PRODUCTIVE, BUT SO, UM, WE NEED TO DECIDE IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THE EVERY OTHER MONTH SCHEDULE AND THEN HAVE ALSO A DISCUSSION ON THIS, LIKE THE MEETINGS.
WHAT IS HIS DESIRE ALSO? SORRY, JUST REALLY QUICK.
UM, FOR LOCATIONS, IF YOU GUYS ARE STILL INTERESTED IN HAVING THE MEETINGS EITHER AT THE LIBRARY OR, UM, THE CHAMBERS, UM, CITY HALL.
THE MEETING TIMES WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE.
SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE, MEETINGS WOULD HAVE TO BE FROM THREE TO FIVE SO THAT WE COULD, IF THE MEETING GOES LONGER, WE COULD BE OUT OF THERE BY FIVE 30 BECAUSE THEY NEED TIME TO BE ABLE TO EITHER SET UP FOR OTHER EVENTS OR UM, DO WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO IN THE ROOM FOR NEXT DAY PREPARATION.
SO WE NEED TO DECIDE IF WE WANNA MOVE THE TIME AND IF WE'RE GOOD WITH THE EVERY OTHER MONTH OR, OR WHAT AND LOCATION.
IN MY OPINION, THE, UH, EVERY OTHER MONTH SEEMS TO BE WORKING FAIRLY WELL.
THAT GIVES US TIME FOR OUR SUBCOMMITTEES TO MEET AND DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT TO BRING UP AT THE NEXT MEETING.
UM, AS FAR AS THE LOCATION, WELL THE LOCATION AND THE TIME THAT GOES HAND IN HAND.
AS FAR AS THE LOCATION AND THE TIME.
AND I DON'T REALLY CARE WHAT TIME, YOU KNOW, WE MEET, I DO PREFER IT IN THE AFTERNOON RATHER THAN THE MORNING.
BUT, UM, AS FAR AS THE TIME AND THE LOCATION, THE LAST TIME WE MET AT THE LIBRARY, THEY
THAT'S WHY WE WOULD MOVE TO THREE TO FIVE.
WE WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE TO CHANGE THE TIME BECAUSE BE THREE TO FIVE.
I MEAN, WE DO TRY TO MEET THEIR REQUIREMENTS BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY FAIR TO HAVE THE LIGHTS TURNED OUT ON YOU
SO IF THAT COULD BE WORKED OUT, I, YOU KNOW, BUT WE DO NEED TO KNOW KIND OF WHERE TO GO BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO CHECK DIFFERENT LOCATIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE ALWAYS MOVING AROUND.
I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN OVER THERE, WE'VE OVER HERE WE'VE BEEN OVER THE LIBRARY.
THE HOMELESS SERVICES ADVISORY, UM, COMMITTEE HAS BEEN HOMELESS SINCE WE MOVED OUTTA THE MULTI-SERVICE CENTER BEFORE THE PANDEMIC.
SO WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A MEETING PLACE.
WHAT ABOUT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY? THE, THE REASON WE, SOME OF US DIDN'T PREFER THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IS BECAUSE OF THE LIMITED PUBLIC ACCESS.
BECAUSE YOU'RE IN A BUILDING LIKE THIS BUILDING, THERE'S NO SIGNAGE.
THERE'S NO INDICATION THAT THERE'S ANY CITY BUSINESS HERE.
IF I MAY ADD ONE OF THE, THE BENEFITS, 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO MOVE TO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY FOR CONSISTENCY.
UM, IS THAT WHERE WE, WE DON'T QUITE HAVE A GOOD PROCESS YET BECAUSE OTHER FOLKS ARE NOT DOING IT.
BUT BUILT IN THE ROOM IS THE ABILITY TO LIVE STREAM AS WELL.
SO WE'RE HOPING TO IMPLEMENT THAT AND TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT FROM RIGHT.
SO I KNOW ONE THING THAT WAS DISCUSSED AND YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S OPINIONS VARY.
UM, BUT ONE THING WAS DISCUSSED WAS, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU DO CONTINUE WITH THE MULTIPLE SUBCOMMITTEES RIGHT.
MEMBERS ATTENDING OR HEARING, OBVIOUSLY IF IT WOULD BE ONLINE, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME IN PERSON.
UM, SO IT'S JUST ANOTHER BENEFIT.
I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT SINCE THAT DID COME UP.
SO, UM, AND WE WOULD DEFINITELY BE, UM, IF THAT WAS THE DECISION MADE, I THINK THAT WE COULD SAY THAT WE WOULD DEFINITELY MOVE FORWARD TO TRY TO IMPLEMENT THAT FULLY.
UH, IT'S JUST, IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF A CAPACITY ISSUE 'CAUSE IT'S JUST, AS YOU SAY, THERE'S A FEW OF US
SO JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT AS WELL.
WELL I'M, I'M LIKE, I'M LIKE REALLY LIKING THIS PLACE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE THE ECHO AND I CAN HEAR EVERYBODY,
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UM, THAT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY BUILDING FOR SOME REASON, THAT, THAT THAT ROOM HAS A, HAS A QUALITY THAT TENDS TO, I DON'T KNOW, I CAN'T HEAR VERY WELL THERE.THAT'S IT ECHOES AND, UM, IT'S JUST NOT THE IDEAL THING.
I MEAN, IF YOU WERE GOING TO GIVE A PRESENTATION OF THERE, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU HAVE A MICROPHONE SOMEWHERE SO EVERYBODY CAN HEAR.
BUT, UM, THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION.
'CAUSE I CAN HEAR EVERYBODY WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.
IT DOESN'T HAVE THE ECHO HAS GREAT SOUND AND IT, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE IT HERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE REQUIREMENTS ARE I, I AM PERFECTLY FINE WITH US MEETING FROM THREE TO FIVE, BUT EASY FOR ME TO SAY BECAUSE I'M RETIRED.
SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HEAR, IT'S IMPORTANT TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE THAT AREN'T RETIRED.
BUT I DO WANT TO, I THOUGHT THE GOALS, BUT TO ME THE OBAMA LIBRARY AND THE BILLIE JEAN KING LIBRARY SPACE WERE VERY ACCESSIBLE.
AND I THINK THAT IT'S MEETING IN PERSON THAT MAKES US MORE ACCESSIBLE.
I UNDERSTAND THE ONLINE THING AND I, I WATCH OUR CITY COUNCIL WITH THAT AND I DON'T, MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE IS IT'S NOT EFFECTIVE THAT IT'S BETTER IF WE ARE, WE ARE HERE IN PERSON AS A, AS A WORKING PERSON.
UM, IF WE MEET EVERY OTHER MONTH, I CAN ACCOMMODATE THE SCHEDULE MATTER WHAT TIME OF THE DAY.
IT'S, YEAH, I THINK IT'S, IT'S HARD TO GET AWAY OTHER MONTH.
SO I LIVE LONG BEACH AND THREE DAYS EVERY DAY IN ADDITION TO US WORKING, THERE'S ALSO THE PUBLIC, THE PUBLIC WORKS.
AND SO HOW ACCESSIBLE IS OUR MEETING IF IT'S DURING THE DAYTIME WHEN MANY PEOPLE WORK? NINE TO FIVE THREE TOO, BUT IT'S OKAY.
JACKIE? UM, AS LONG AS WELL, WHATEVER TIME.
SO I SAY FOUR O'CLOCK, BUT YEAH, I WOULD OVER ME SAY THREE.
WELL, IT HAS TO DO WITH LOCATION.
YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD PREFER THE LOCATION.
THEY CAN DO FOUR O'CLOCK
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE OR WHEREVER.
YEAH, BUT THE FOUR, BUT FOUR TO SIX.
SO IF IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT LIBRARY, I GET IT.
UH, AS FAR AS LOCATION, SHE, SHE LIKES THIS.
I, I LIKE THIS SPACE PERSONALLY.
I MEAN, THE LOCATION IS PRETTY INACCESSIBLE.
THIS CASE IS PRETTY CENTRAL BUT ALSO DOES NOT HAVE ANY PUBLIC TRANSIT LINES.
NO, I, THIS AGAIN, CLARK, THE, THE, I GET IT, THE ACOUSTICS ARE NICE, BUT TO ME THE QUESTION OF ACCESSIBILITY IS THAT WE ARE IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE LIVING WITH HOMELESS NEIGHBORS AND THAT'S, THAT'S MY PRIORITY.
SO WE CAN'T GET A CITY COUNCIL, A CITY HALL, UM, CONFERENCE ROOM AT FOUR O'CLOCK.
THE CHAMBERS, WELL YOU CAN DO THE CHAMBER OR YOU CAN DO ONE OF THE CONFERENCE ROOMS. THEIR CONFERENCE ROOMS ARE SO INACCESSIBLE.
REALLY? THEY'RE REALLY A NIGHTMARE.
EVEN THE, EVEN THE AUDITOR ONE, UM, DON'T YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH SENIORITY? YOU HAVE TO GO UP THE ELEVATOR AND THEN YEAH, THERE'S A LOCKED DOOR.
SO YOU HAVE TO LIKE SIT THERE AND LET PEOPLE IN.
IT'S REALLY, THEIR CONFERENCE ROOMS REALLY HARD TO GET IN.
ARE THERE STILL HOMELESS SERVICES OFFICES DOWNTOWN TRIBAL LIBRARY? NO, WE, WHEN WE MOVED TO HUGHES, WE RETURNED TO THAT SPACE.
UM, AFTER, AFTER THE, THE RENOVATION AND REPAIR WORK AT THE MULTI-SERVICE CENTER, IS THAT A POTENTIAL FOR US TO GO BACK? I KNOW HISTORICALLY THAT THAT'S WHERE THE HSAC MET.
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DID THAT BE A POSSIBILITY? THERE IS THAT ROOM IN THE BACK OVER AT THE SIDE.ESPECIALLY IF WE START AT FOUR BECAUSE, WHICH IS WHAT WE DID WHEN IT WAS THERE AND WE, IT DIDN'T SEEM TO, TO MESS WITH ANY OPERATIONS.
AND THE WINTERTIME, LIKE DURING IWS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE HARD TO, YOU COULD SCHEDULE IT AND THEN HAVE TO CANCEL IT.
SO, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF THE WINTERTIME, TWO DAYS.
I MEAN, IT WOULD BE TWO MEETINGS A YEAR.
WHERE PROBABLY NOT, WOULD NOT WANT TO BOOK IT THERE 'CAUSE YOU MIGHT HAVE TO CANCEL IT.
WHAT ABOUT THE BIXBY PARK RECREATION? THE CONFERENCE THERE, UH, PARKS ARE KIND OF TOUGH TO BOOK, BUT WE CAN TRY A BUNCH OF ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS.
I BELIEVE WE STILL HAVE TO PAY FOR THOSE ROOMS, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE THE CITY.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, CITY DEPARTMENTS CHARGE OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS.
SOMEBODY WOULD ONLY GET TO THOSE TWO MEETINGS.
THEY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY THE WINNER.
I MEAN, IF WE DID, YOU KNOW, AN ALTERNATIVE LOCATION FOR THOSE TWO MEETINGS COULD BUT BBY OR CHAVEZ, AND AGAIN, THIS WAS JUST A PERSONAL AS A NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO GET OUR COUNCIL PERSON TO INTERVENE AND WELL, SO THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY.
TO THE THING WITH SHADOWS IS THEY HAVE A LOT OF, UM, CHILDREN'S ACTIVITIES THERE COMING OUT OF THAT BUILDING.
UM, THERE, THE NEXT MEETING ISN'T UNTIL AUGUST.
LET ME, LET ME KNOCK ON SOME WOOD ON THAT JUST TO BE CASE.
IF IT'S NOT OPEN BY AUGUST, I'M GONNA RIP MY HAND.
WE, WE SHOULD BE OPEN WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO HERE SO FAR OUT OR WE'RE GETTING CLOSE.
OKAY, SO FOUR TO SIX AND AT THE MULTI-SERVICE CENTER? YEAH.
EXCEPT FOR THE INCLEMENT WEATHER, RIGHT? MM-HMM
AND THEN, UM, THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS STILL DO THE EVERY OTHER MONTH, THE OTHER MONTHS.
AND THOSE ARE AT TWO, ARE THEY TWO AND THREE TECHNICAL? UM, I'M GONNA TRY TO GET BACK TO SUBCOMMITTEES, BUT ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON MEETING SCHEDULE AND LOCATION COMMENTS? OKAY.
UM, SO THERE'S A MOTION TO DISCUSS AND APPROVE THE MEETING SCHEDULE FOR THE HOMELESS SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE SUBCOMMITTEE.
SO FOUR TO SIX, UM, AT THE MULTI-SERVICE CENTER EVERY OTHER MONTH, AND THEN THE SUBCOMMITTEES AT THE OTHER MONTHS.
NUMBER NINE, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. DID WE GET A LIST OF THEM? WE ALMOST NEED A LIST, I THOUGHT.
DID JENNIFER, JENNIFER, UM, DID YOU? I THOUGHT YOU DID.
I DID, BUT IT, I HAVEN'T HAD ANY OTHER ONES ASIDE FROM YOUR LIST.
UM, AND I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK THE FORM TO SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS SUBMITTED NEW AGENDA.
I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE APPROVED, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE LIST.
WELL, I'M, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.
IT SEEMS TO ME THOUGH, I MEAN, WE EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN ON HSAC, WE'VE HAD THIS AGENDA ITEM AND WE'VE NEVER OKAY.
AND SO I'D LIKE TO URGE, OKAY, LET ME HAVE A MOTION FIRST, LET ME HAVE A MOTION TO RECOMMENDATION THE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS AND A SECOND.
SO NOW WE'RE READY FOR DISCUSSION.
SO, SO WHAT YOU CAN DO IS YOU CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. WELL, WHAT I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND IS THAT THERE, I SUBMITTED A LIST AND I'M, IT'S GOT BETWEEN FIVE AND 10 POSSIBLE TOPICS AND I BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD REALLY BE A, AN IMPORTANT CONTRIBUTION FROM HSAC TO EITHER HAVE PRESENTATIONS AND OR DISCUSSION ABOUT THE TOPICS THAT I'VE LISTED.
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YEAH.AND SO I'D LIKE FOR THAT TO, TO BE DISCUSSED AT THE NEXT MEETING, TO HAVE THE, GET THE LIST DISTRIBUTED TO PEOPLE AHEAD OF TIME AND FIGURE OUT WHEN YOU WANNA HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
AND PEOPLE CAN, WE CAN DECIDE WHICH ONES WE'RE MOST INTERESTED IN COLLECTIVELY.
I DEFINITELY HAD SOME, I DON'T REMEMBER WHERE THEY WERE, BUT I DEFINITELY HAD SOME AGENDA ITEMS THAT WE'VE NEVER DISCUSSED HERE.
I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE GATHER, UH, AMONG ALL OF US ANY, ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR FUTURE TOPICS AND THEN WE FORM A COLLECTIVE LIST AND WE BRING THAT TO OUR NEXT MEETING.
SO SEND IT ALL TO JENNIFER AND SHE'LL MAKE A CUMULATIVE LIST AND THEN SEND IT OUT AND THEN YOU ALL CAN VOTE ON WHICH ONE YOU WANT.
WE'LL GET THAT MOVE ON AHEAD OF TIME, RIGHT? YEAH.
AS PART OF THE NEXT AGENDA, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY HARD TO READ THIS STUFF THAT YOU HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE.
UM, I DUNNO, I DON'T THINK I HAVE TO DO ANYTHING FOR THAT RIGHT.
GEN UM, WE'RE NOT APPROVING FUTURE, WE'RE JUST, YOU'RE JUST GONNA GET THE EMAILS.
WELL, WE'LL STILL DO A VOTE FOR THE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS THAT I WILL SEND OUT.
RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS THAT YOU'LL SEND TO JENNIFER, SUBMITTED TO JENNIFER AND THAT SHE'S GONNA CIRCULATE.
ALTHOUGH SAY IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
SO THAT IS IT FOR THE AGENDAS ITEMS. AND NOW WE HAVE THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR ELECTION.
UM, FOR, FOR THE CHAIR, UH, WE HAVE OPEN NOMINATIONS.
UM, ANYBODY CAN NOMINATE ANYBODY ELSE OR THEY CAN NOMINATE THEMSELVES AND THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN.
I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE STEVEN, HER CHAIR.
I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE SARAH FOR OH, WE'RE JUST, JUST DOING CHAIR.
ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIR? CAN I JUST, UM, JUST SAY THAT I'VE RECENTLY HAD SOME TIME OPEN UP, SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT IT, THAT IF YOU NEED ME TO BE VICE CHAIR, THAT WOULD BE OPEN OR WE'RE DOING CHAIR WHATEVER YOU WANT.
THERE'S A NOMINATION OF, OF STEPHEN WOOD AS CHAIR OF THE SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
UM, NOW IT'S THE, UH, NOMINATION FOR VICE CHAIR.
ANYBODY CAN NOMINATE ANYBODY ELSE OR THEY CAN NOMINATE THEMSELVES.
I WOULD BE WILLING TO DO VICE CHAIR.
UM, SINCE THERE'S NO MORE NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR, PAT SCOTT HAS BEEN NOMINATED AS VICE CHAIR.
ANY, UM, PUBLIC COMMENTS, OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE HOMELESS SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON NON AGENDA? AGENDA ITEMS? NEXT SPEAKER IS LIVING TO TWO MINUTES.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? OKAY.
BEFORE WE ADJOURN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS RED CAT.
I WANNA, I WANNA KNOW HOW LONG YOU'RE GONNA BE ATTENDING THESE MEETINGS.
UM, ONLY UNTIL MY REPLACEMENT, THIS, MIKE, YOU MAY BE IN THIS ROOM, UM, UM, IS FINALIZED.
AND ONBOARDING, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IS, IS A PROCESS.
SOMETIMES WE, WE ALSO HAVE TWO OTHER, UM, WE ALSO HAVE TWO OTHER OPENING IN DISTRICT FIVE AND POSSIBLY EIGHT.
WE ARE FIVE, DISTRICT FIVE AND AT LARGE.
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OKAY.TWO AT LARGE AND DISTRICT FIVE, TWO AT LARGE.
YEAH, BECAUSE MINE IS AT LARGE.
WE HAVE AND JULIE, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS PROACTIVELY NOMINATING PEOPLE AND IT'S JUST TAKING A WHILE TO GO
THE WAY THIS HAPPENS IS THAT, UM, THERE'S AN ONLINE PAGE WHERE IT'S YOU OR ANYBODY ELSE CAN SUBMIT AN APPLICATION FOR ANY OF THE COMMISSIONS AND THEN THEY ALL GET FED INTO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THEY GET DIVIDED INTO COUNCIL DISTRICTS AND THEN THEY GET MOVED BY THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
SO WE CAN LET OUR NETWORKS KNOW.
HAVE OR ANYBODY INTERESTED SERVING ON THIS COMMISSION OR ANY OTHER COMMISSION, PLEASE HAVE THEM LOOK ON THE WEBSITE AND, UM, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE WILL BE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS.