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EXCELLENT .

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OKAY.

JUST GIVE US ONE SECOND.

YEAH.

SO WE GOT YOU UNMUTED ON THIS ONE.

HI.

HOW YOU SLATE ACROSS TOWN? JULIE? OKAY.

HI, JULIE.

HELLO HERE.

YEAH, WE SHOULD BE OKAY.

OKAY.

I'M GOOD.

ARE WE SET? THERE'S A LITTLE FEEDBACK.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UH, MAY MAYBE ASK, UM, SOMEONE ON THE CALL.

LEMME SEE WHO'S ON THE CALL.

UH, HAILEY, COULD YOU UNMUTE AND, UM, TRY TO SPEAK SO WE CAN SEE IF WE CAN HEAR YOU IN THE ROOM? HELLO? COULD YOU GUYS HEAR ME? YES.

YES.

PERFECT.

YES.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

IS THAT, IS THAT VOLUME OKAY? YEAH.

OKAY, COOL.

ALRIGHT, WE'RE GOOD.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

GOOD JOB.

ARE WE READY? WE'RE GOOD.

OKAY.

WE'RE GOOD.

OKAY.

LET'S CALL MEETING THE ORDER.

AND YOU DO A ROLL CALL? YES.

UH, JULIE LEE.

HERE.

STEVEN WOOD HERE.

JIM HOWETT.

I AM HERE.

LEANNA NOBLE? YES.

OKAY.

WE HAVE QUORUM.

OKAY.

OKAY.

FIRST IS, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE HOMELESS SERVICE MAYOR'S FUND COMMITTEE.

I HAVE A MOTION.

I'LL MOVE SECOND.

UH, MOVED AND SECONDED.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

A RECOMMENDATION TO FILE THE MAYOR'S FUND BALANCE UPDATE IN THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT.

UM, MOTION.

SO MOVED.

SECOND.

SECOND.

UM, I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, WHAT DID WE, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE RESULTS WERE OF THE MAILING THAT WE WERE NEVER QUITE TOO SURE ABOUT.

DO WE HAVE FIGURES ON WHAT WAS, WHAT CAME IN DURING, UH, NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER? I DID, I SENT THOSE OUT I WANNA SAY A COUPLE MONTHS BACK VIA EMAIL.

YOU DIDN'T RECEIVE? NO.

YEAH, I, I HAD SENT THEM TO YOU GUYS, UM, GIVING YOU LIKE A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THE CONTRIBUTIONS WERE FOR THOSE.

I THINK IT WAS IN THE LAST, UH, MAYOR'S FUND UPDATE.

ACTUALLY, LET ME SEE IF I CAN PULL THAT UP REALLY QUICK.

THE LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD IN JANUARY, JANUARY, ANNUAL REPORT.

3 25.

UM, BEFORE THAT'S YOUR LAST MEETING.

NO, NO, NO.

I'M JUST LOOKING AT, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK I SENT IT IN THE HAYSTACK ONE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T MEET HERE.

WE SKIPPED A COUPLE MONTHS, REMEMBER? YEAH.

BECAUSE OF QUORA.

UM, SO I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND CHECK, BUT I CAN SEND THAT OUT AGAIN FOR YOU GUYS.

YEAH, PLEASE DO.

BECAUSE I WOULD INDICATE WHETHER OR NOT THERE ACTUALLY WAS ANY MAILING THAT ACTUALLY WENT OUT, IF THERE WAS A LITTLE SURGE IN GIVING.

WE DID HAVE HIGHER CONTRIBUTIONS DURING, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT WAS NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, JANUARY, FEBRUARY.

OH, GOOD.

AND HOW MUCH DO YOU REMEMBER? I DON'T, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

YEAH.

WHAT IS IT? IT WAS HIGHER THAN THE, THAN THE USUAL MONTH.

SO ON AN AVERAGE, LIKE WE RECEIVE, LET'S SEE, BASED OFF OF THIS ONE.

YEAH, WELL, JENNIFER'S LOOKING A LITTLE LESS THE $2,000.

MM-HMM .

WELL, JENNIFER'S LOOKING THAT UP.

I WAS GONNA SAY, UM, IF YOU LIKE TO, WE EXPLORE, UH, TARGETED EMAILS AS WE'RE LAUNCHING OUR, UH, PUBLIC LISTSERVS, UH, FOR FREE TO LET US KNOW.

WE CAN SEND THINGS OUT MAYBE QUARTERLY.

OH, COOL.

OKAY.

WAIT, SEND WHAT OUT? SO I WAS SAYING 'CAUSE WE'RE LAUNCHING OUR PUBLIC LISTSERVS, IF WE WANT TO DISCUSS SENDING THOSE OUT MAYBE QUARTERLY.

YEAH.

WE COULD DO THAT.

SENDING, SO THE SOLICITATION FOR A DONATION.

YES.

SO, BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR VIA EMAIL, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? OR ACTUALLY A HARD COPY NO, VIA EMAIL BECAUSE WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE NOW SIGN ACTIVELY SIGNING UP FOR OUR EMAIL LIST ON OUR WEBSITE.

WE DIDN'T PREVIOUSLY HAVE THAT, RIGHT? WELL, WE DID, BUT WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY, UM, BECAUSE IT WASN'T BEING ADVERTISED, SO WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY NEW SUBSCRIPTIONS SINCE LIKE 2021.

SO WE KIND OF WIPED THAT LIST OUT AND WE'RE STARTING AGAIN.

SO OUR PROGRAM MANAGERS

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SENDING THAT OUT TO ALL OF OUR HOMELESS COUNT INDIVIDUALS.

RIGHT.

THAT'S FOR THIS.

ALRIGHT, SO HERE YOU CAN SEE MARCH CONTRIBUTION.

THAT CAN IS THAT RIGHT? IT'S EXACTLY TO THE PENNY.

THE SAME AMOUNT FOR TWO CONSECUTIVE.

THAT'S AN AMAZING COINCIDENCE MONTH.

I MEAN, THAT, THAT WOULD BE STATISTICALLY I KNOW, PRETTY AMAZING.

YEAH.

IF THAT IS TRUE.

YEAH.

THAT, THAT RAISES A QUESTION THAT WE WOULD GET EXACTLY TO THE PENNY OF THE SAME AMOUNT IN MARCH AND APRIL.

WELL, THIS INFORMATION IS PULLED FROM GET THE NUMBERS AGAIN.

THE LBC FOUNDATION.

YEAH.

YEAH, I WOULD CHECK WITH THAT.

I MEAN, THAT, THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THAT, BUT YOU WERE HAVING, SAY, JENNIFER, THAT USUALLY THE CONTRIBUTIONS WERE, SO IF YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE FOR MARCH, IT SAYS 1,838 AND 29 CENTS.

SO THAT WAS THE CONTRIBUTIONS MADE FOR MARCH, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

AND THEN APRIL, IT'S THE SAME THING.

UM, SO BASED ON WHAT I'VE SEEN FROM THE PREVIOUS MONTHS, THAT'S AROUND HOW MUCH WE USUALLY GET.

MAY WE PROBABLY GET IN THE 5,000, SOMETIMES SOME MONTHS.

BUT FOR MARCH, I MEAN, SORRY, FOR LAST YEAR, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, I BELIEVE WE WERE IN THE, I WANNA SAY IT WAS CLOSE TO 12.

12 K.

WOW.

NOW, AS A BANKER TYPE QUESTION FOR ME HERE, DO WE HAVE THAT? DO WE EARN ANY INTEREST ON THAT MONEY? IS THAT 163,000? THERE, THERE IS SOME NOMINAL, YOU KNOW WHAT, MAYBE IT'S TIME TO GET THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION TO COME IN AND TALK TO YOU GUYS BECAUSE YEAH.

ACTUALLY IF NOBODY'S MAKING ANY DECISIONS ON OUR ACCOUNT, UM MM-HMM .

WE'RE, WE'RE SORT OF PROBABLY NOT OPTIMIZING OUR INTEREST.

I KNOW A CREATION AND IT'S, IT'S A FAIR AMOUNT.

YOU CAN, YOU CAN MAKE A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS.

YEAH.

YEAH.

EXACTLY.

A QUARTER IF YOU WANT TO.

UM, SO IS THAT ON OUR, OUR LIST OF FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS IS, UM, NOT JUST FOR THIS MEETING, BUT FOR THE GREATER, SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, YOU GUYS PROBABLY DON'T EVEN KNOW THEM RELATIONSHIP RIGHT NOW.

THE BALANCE WENT UP FROM MARCH TO APRIL BY $5,000 MM-HMM .

SO SOMETHING HAPPENED.

YEAH.

THAT NUMBER JUST ISN'T RIGHT.

IT WASN'T $1,838 AND 29 CENTS.

RIGHT.

SO LET YOU KNOW.

IT, IT'S SAD THAT WE HAVE QUESTION THAT RAISES SO MANY QUESTIONS THAT THIS IS NOW THE REPORTING NUMBERS COME FROM THE COMMUNITY FUND, CORRECT? MM-HMM .

CORRECT.

I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY, I THINK YOU NEED TO TALK TO THEM YET.

WE HAVEN'T COME OVER.

THEY'RE HAPPY TO DO US.

THEY'RE VERY GOOD.

THIS IS NOT GOOD.

I CAN SCHEDULE THAT FOR YEAH.

YEAH.

ONE OF THE UPCOMING MEETINGS.

YEAH.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO WE'VE DISCUSSED A BIT.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

UM, OKAY.

UH, NOW OUR FIRST ONE IS THE GRANT APPLICATION FOR HIS LITTLE FEET IN THE AMOUNT OF 10,000.

UH, MOTION DISABLED RESOURCES IS FIRST JIM.

OH, I, I'M SORRY, I SKIPPED DOWN TO THE SECOND ONE.

DISABLED RESOURCE CENTER IS THE FIRST ONE IN THE AMOUNT OF $10,000.

I DO NOT HAVE A HARD COPY OF THAT.

OKAY.

SORRY.

I I MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT.

I'LL CHECK THE TEXT.

RIGHT? YEAH, YOU CAN LOOK GET MINE HERE TOO.

SO YOU NEED TO DO A MOTION.

OKAY.

I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MOTION OF REVIEW.

WELL, IT WOULD BE, THE MOTION WOULD BE TO REVIEW.

REVIEW, YEAH.

AND IF APPROPRIATE, APPROVE.

THAT'S WHY I MEANT WHICH DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I, I'LL MOVE, I'LL SECOND.

OKAY.

LET'S DISCUSS THE DISABLED RESOURCE.

DO WE HAVE THAT FINAL REPORT FOR THE, I ASK, LET ME PUT FINAL REPORTS ON THE, SO IT'S UP HERE.

OKAY.

AND THEN THE TOTAL NUMBER OF, UH, SO FROM THE LAST REPORT, 17 INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES WERE HELPED WITH THE FUNDING THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THEM.

YEAH.

BUT THAT WAS JUST MOTEL VOUCHERS.

THAT ONE WAS FOR MOTEL VOUCHERS.

THIS ONE IS FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT, RIGHT? YEAH.

IS IT THE SAME? I JUST, I I WANTED TO SEE MM-HMM .

WHAT THEY DID WITH THE LAST $10,000 WE GAVE THEM MM-HMM .

YEP.

AND THIS IS THEIR REPORT, CORRECT? RIGHT.

OF THE LAST 10,000.

AND THEN MARIO IS ON THE CALL.

IS THIS, THIS IS THE REPORT THEY FILED.

IS THERE ANYMORE? CAN WE GO UP A BIT? THAT'S HOW WE DISTRIBUTE HOTEL VOUCHERS.

NO, THAT'S

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WHAT THEY ASKED FOR.

THEY ASKED FOR $10,000 TO BE USED FOR MO TEMPORARY RIGHT.

HOUSING.

SO THAT'S WHAT THEY CHOSE TO DO.

AND THIS IS THEIR REPORT ON HOW THEY SPENT IT.

UH, DO NOT MUCH IN THE WAY OF DETAIL HERE.

IS THERE? OKAY.

WELL, 17 PEOPLE.

DOES IT SAY HOW LONG IT WAS FOR MOTEL, AVERAGE MOTEL STAY? UM, I DO NOT SEE IT, BUT MAYBE MARIO, ARE YOU ABLE TO CLARIFY? PROBABLY LIKE A WEEK OR LESS.

WHERE IS HE? MARIO, CAN YOU HEAR US? WELL IT UP.

OH, HE'S ON.

I'LL COPY.

OH YEAH, IT'S THIS ONE.

THE ONE THAT, WHAT IM READING HERE LOOKS LIKE THAT BASICALLY JUST A RECAST OF THEIR APPLICATION.

WE REALLY DIDN'T GET MUCH IN THE WAY OF DETAIL ON, WELL, THEY SAY IT'S 17 PEOPLE, BUT, UH, YES, I CAN, I CAN HEAR YOU.

CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME NOW? GREAT.

YEAH.

THANKS.

UM, SO SORRY, AN MY MICROPHONE.

NO PROBLEM.

YEAH, CAN YOU, PERSON WAS SAYING IT, UH, ABOUT THE TEENTH 17 INDIVIDUALS, THE FAMILIES WILL HELP OUT.

SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? I THINK WE NEED TO TURN 'EM DOWN.

I SAY YOUR QUESTION WAS IN REFERENCE TO THE 17, UH, FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS WILL HELP, RIGHT? CORRECT.

RIGHT.

WHAT WAS THE QUESTION IN SPECIFIC? IS THAT I, YOU KNOW, FOR SOME REASON IT, IT, UH, WHATEVER.

I THINK WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS WAIT TILL WE HAVE OUR DISCUSSION, THEN WE CAN HEAR THAT'S FROM, HE'S FROM THE .

WE'LL, WE'LL GIVE YOU A CHANCE AFTER WE HAVE A LITTLE DISCUSSION HERE.

OKAY.

SO LET US MOVE AHEAD.

SO, UH, AS I WAS SAYING, THE, WE DIDN'T GIVE MUCH DETAIL.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? IS THERE, YEAH.

OKAY.

THANKS JENNIFER.

, ARE YOU THINKING IN TERMS OF WHAT, AFTER THEIR ONE WEEK STAY AT A MOTEL? WHAT HAPPENED TODAY? YEAH, RIGHT.

I'D LIKE SOME MORE, SOME OUTCOME.

WHAT EFFECTIVELY HAPPENED AND, UH, AND WHO THEY WERE.

IT, IT WAS JUST, AND I THINK WE NEED A BREAKDOWN.

I'D LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE MORE FINANCIAL DATA ON THE FINAL REPORTS.

IN OTHER WORDS, THEY SAY MOTEL VOUCHERS, BUT, UH, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THEY WERE OR HOW MUCH WE ACTUALLY, WELL, WE KNOW WE SPENT $10,000 ON 17 PEOPLE.

SO, SO FIVE 17, BUT 10,000, IT'S, ITS A LITTLE HUNDRED DOLLARS PER, IT'S A LITTLE UNDER $600.

YEAH.

PER, WE ARE GONNA DISCUSS THE FINAL ONE PAGE SUMMARY LATER IN THE AGENDA.

SO THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ADD.

YEAH.

WELL, I THINK WE'VE BEEN, TO BE HONEST, I THINK WE'VE BEEN SOMEWHAT NEGLIGENT ON THESE FINAL REPORTS OF NOT GETTING ENOUGH DETAIL AS TO HOW THE MONEY IS ACTUALLY SPENT.

AND THAT'S NOT THEIR PROBLEM HERE.

THAT'S OUR PROBLEM THAT WE NEED TO PROBABLY GET MORE DETAIL ON HOW THE MONEY IS SPENT.

APPLICATION.

IT LOOKS LIKE THIS.

WELL, THEIR APPLICATION LOOKS, IT LOOKS LIKE.

YEAH, THAT'S THE ONE I HAVE.

YOU DON'T HAVE THIS ONE? NO, I HAVE THE OTHER TWO.

OKAY.

THIS RIGHT HERE.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON, I CAN PUT IT UP FINAL REPORT BEFORE, BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE APPLICATION.

I'LL PUT IT UP TOO.

JULIE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO, UM, NO, BUT WHEN JENNIFER PUTS THAT UP, YEAH, I CAN READ IT.

SO THE AMOUNT BEING REQUESTED IS 10,000 AND IT WOULD BE FOR REIMBURSEMENT.

UM, LET'S SEE.

AND THIS TIME IT'S FOR RENT ASSISTANCE, RIGHT?

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OR IS IT THE SAME? OH, NO, IT SAYS THE REQUESTED FUNDING WILL PROVIDE SHORT TERM VOUCHERS FOR EMERGENCY MOTEL, HOUSING, FOOD, AND TRANS.

OH, SO IT'S SORT OF THE SAME? CORRECT.

OH, OKAY.

CAN WE ASK THE GENTLEMAN SOME QUESTIONS? YEAH.

OKAY.

IS HE UNMUTED? I CAN'T TELL IS THE POINT.

WHAT WAS THE FIRST, THE AMOUNT OF THE FIRST APPLICATION SAY 10,000.

10,000, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY, WELL, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE APPLICATION.

WHAT I WILL SAY, I AGREE WITH THE CONCEPT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WITH WATCHING PEOPLE GET PLACED IN HOUSING, THERE'S A LOT OF LITTLE THINGS THAT SHOW UP AND GETTING PEOPLE SETTLED IN THAT DON'T LIKE TO GET COVERED.

AND THIS CONCEPT IS GOOD THAT WAY.

BUT, UH, I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION THAT WE REALLY DO THAT MUCH IN THREE DAYS, AND THAT'S WHY I'M READING THE APPLICATION IS THAT YOU WORK WITH THEM FOR THREE DAYS.

HOW LONG IS THE AVERAGE MOTEL STAY BASED ON YOUR LAST PROGRAM? UM, WE STARTED WITHIN THREE DAYS, BUT, UH, THE, THE FAMILIES CAN STAY AS WELL AS WE CAN FIND, UH, ANOTHER PLACE WHERE THEY CAN PLACE SOME, YOU KNOW, IN SOME CASES THEY'RE RATHER HAVE A PLACE READY TO MOVE IN AND IT MAY TAKE FIVE, 10 DAYS BEFORE THEY CAN ACTUALLY MOVE INTO PERMANENT, UH, SETTING OR TRANSITIONAL SETTING TO PERMANENT SETTING.

SO WE STARTED OFF FOR THREE DAYS, BUT THEN IT COULD BE 5, 7, 10 DAYS, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS THEY NEED IT.

SO THEY, SO THE IDEA IS NOT TOO, FOR THEM NOT TO STAY ON THE STREET, SO THEY STAY IN A SAFE PLACE WHILE THEIR, THEIR, YOU KNOW, PERMANENT PLACE IS GETTING READY FOR THE, FOR YOUR FAM THE 17 FAMILIES OR INDIVIDUALS THAT YOU HELD THE LAST TIME? WHAT? THAT'S CORRECT.

WHERE DID THEY THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THE, THE, THE, THE NIGHTS WILL VARY.

LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, IT WON'T BE THE SAME NIGHTS FOR EVERYBODY.

SOME PEOPLE HAVE A PLACE THEY CAN MOVE IN, IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.

SO THEN WE, WE VOUCHER THEM FOR TWO NIGHTS.

OTHERS CAN BE FINE NIGHTS.

WE CAN VOUCHER THEM FOR FRIDAY NIGHTS.

OKAY.

YEAH.

BUT WHERE DID THEY ALL GO? THE 17? I'M SORRY? WHERE DID THEY GO AFTER YOUR MOTEL? OH, THEY, UH, SOME OF THEM ALREADY ALREADY GOT A PLACE TO GO.

LIKE THEY GO INTO PERMANENT HOUSE OR THEY GO BACK WITH FAMILY MEMBERS IF THAT IS THE CASE.

OR THEY MAY ALREADY HAVE A VOUCHER, BUT FOR SOME REASON THEIR PLACE IS ALREADY AND THEY HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE PLACE PASSES INSPECTION.

SO THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE HELP 'EM OUT TO STAY IN A, IN A SAFE PLACE BECAUSE THERE'S THE OTHER PLACE FOR THEM TO STAY.

IS IS YOUR CRITERIA, UH, CRITERIA BEING THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE A, A PLACE ALREADY IN MIND OR KIND OF BEING THE PROCESS OF GETTING A PLACE PRIOR TO GETTING IT? IS IT IT, YOU KNOW? YEAH.

MOST OF THE TIMES WHEN THEY COME TO US, BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE A PLACE, OTHERS, THEY DON'T.

SO WE HAVE TO START SEARCHING WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, A PLACE AND WHETHER IT IS, UH, ANOTHER TRANSITIONAL PROGRAM, WHICH IS GONNA BE A LONG TERM, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY PUT 'EM, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE OTHER, UH, THING THAT WE DO.

UH, BUT WHEN THEY ALREADY HAVE A PLACE WE CONTACT THE PLACE GATE, WHEN IS IT GONNA BE READY, HOW LONG IT'S GONNA TAKE, OR, YOU KNOW, UM, MAYBE, LIKE I SAID, THEY ALREADY WERE GRANTED A VOUCHER AND, YOU KNOW, UH, THEY ALREADY HAVE A PLACE, BUT A PLACE FOR SOME REASON THEY BACK PATIENT THEIR FIRST TIME OR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE BE ANOTHER COMMUNITY AGENCY WORKING WITH 'EM.

AND, AND SO THAT'S HOW WE, WE ESTABLISH A RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.

WE START FROM THE FIRST ALL THE WAY TO, WE KIND OF FINISH WITH THEM WHEN THEY ARE ALREADY MOVING TO THEIR PLACE.

YOU, THE PAST WE PARTICIPATE WITH THE, UH, SUNNY CALIFORNIA UTILITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

SO WE TRY TO CONNECT THEM AND SEE HOW THEY CAN GET THEIR SERVICES, YOU KNOW, UM, READY BY THE TIME YOU GET THERE.

SOME CASES, SOME FAMILIES, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE HISTORY WITH THE UTILITIES PROGRAM, THEY REQUEST, UH, DEPOSITS.

SO WE HAVE TO, IF THEY CAN WAIVE THAT FOR GO, DID I SEE US OR DID I DON'T SEE IT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UM, OKAY.

DID YOU, DID YOU ALL SEE THE, THE, UM, YES.

BUDGET? UM, YEAH, I GUESS MY CONCERN IS THAT THE PRIOR GRANT, $10,000, YOU USED IT ALL FOR MOTEL STAYS, BUT, BUT THIS ONE YOU'RE GONNA USE $3,600 FOR FOOD AND A LITTLE UNDER $600 FOR BUS PASSES.

AND I UNDERSTAND THE, THE IMPORTANCE OF FOOD AND BUS PASSES.

UM, HOWEVER, AT $120 PER NIGHT FOR YOUR MOTEL STAY, Y YOU'RE

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NOT GOING TO GET VERY MUCH FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM THE BALANCE OF 5,825.

NO.

IF YOU'RE TRYING TO HELP MORE THAN A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE.

SO, JUST A PUZZLE.

I'M SORRY, I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION IF THERE WAS ONE.

YEAH, WELL, I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT, OKAY, SO IS THIS HOW YOU BROKE DOWN THE OTHER ONE? THIS IS THE OTHER ONE.

NO, THIS IS THIS CURRENT? YEAH.

OKAY.

BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE THAT THIS, BECAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS NOT THAT.

OH.

SO THEY'RE JUST GONNA HELP FOUR HOUSEHOLDS.

HOW MANY FAMILIES AGAIN DID YOU FUND ON THE LAST ONE? SO HOW MANY AND HOW MANY COUNTIES DID WE, DO WE FOLLOW FROM, FROM THE LAST ONE? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THE WAS BROKEN UP.

THAT'S WHAT I READING ON THE, YES, THAT'S THE QUESTION.

HOW MANY FAMILIES WERE HELPED WITH THE PREVIOUS FUNDING? WITH THE PREVIOUS FUNDING? UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS 23.

AND THE REASON WAS BECAUSE THE COST OF THE MOTEL AUCTION WAS CHEAPER THAN THE TIME IT WAS LAST YEAR.

THIS YEAR THEY WENT UP ON THIS.

NO, YOU'RE, AND WHAT I SEE HERE, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T PUT THAT HERE.

UH, THAT THEY PUT THE, THE, UH, THE UTILITY ASSISTANCE AND, AND, UH, AND IN SOME CASES WE PROVIDE, UH, TRANSPORTATION.

WE DO THAT.

IF THE PERSON ACTUALLY NEEDS IT, NEEDS TRANSPORTATION, WE PROVIDE A ONE DAY PASS.

IF THEY DON'T NEED IT, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, WE DON'T DO THAT.

WE RATHER USE IT.

AND I WANT YOU SAYING IF THAT IS, IF THAT IS BETTER.

I DON'T THINK, UH, BUT IT WAS 23 THAT WE BEFORE THE, THE LAST, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

I'D LIKE TO ASK HOW, WHAT ARE, WHO ARE THE PARTNERS MENTIONED THAT YOU COORDINATE SOMETIMES WITH OTHER GROUPS THAT PROVIDE SIMILAR SERVICES? WHO WERE SOME OF THOSE CASES? YEAH, SOME CASES.

I MEAN, WE, WE HAVE LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED YOU, UM, UH, SOCIAL SERVICES, THEY HAVE A VALUE THERE.

UM, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR ASSISTANCE AND WE CAN HELP 'EM OUT IN THAT REGARD.

SO WE DO, UH, THEY, THEY, WE PARTNER WITH THEM BECAUSE THEY, THEY HELP US WITH, UH, FLUID WHEN FOUND IS, UH, WHEN FOUND IS IN FLUID.

UM, AND THAT'S, THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT WE WORK WITH THEM TOO, AND MANY WAYS, UH, AND WAYS.

UH, WE HAVE HAD, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, CASE MANAGERS FROM THE MULTI SERVICE CENTER TRYING TO REACH SOME, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET SOME, SOME HELP BECAUSE, UH, THEY MAY DON'T HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, FUNDING FOR MOTEL BOXES.

THEY ASKED US IF WE CAN HELP OUT THE FAMILY, YOU KNOW, AND ASBU, WE JUST BASICALLY HOW WE, WE WORK WITH EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW.

AND SO YOU, SO THE, THE 17 FAMILIES THAT YOU HELPED WITH YOUR LAST FUNDING, THEY CAME TO YOU BECAUSE LUTHERAN SOCIAL SERVICES WAS HELPING THEM, OR THE MULTI-SERVICE CENTER WAS HELPING THEM? NO, NOT EXACTLY.

EVERY, EVERY ONE OF 'EM, UH, SOME OF THOSE REFERRALS COME TO 2 1 1.

UH, SOME WILL COME DIRECTLY HERE TO US REQUESTING INFORMATION.

UM, AND WE, WHAT WE DO IS WE DO AN ASSESSMENT AND SEE EXACTLY WHETHER OR NOT, UH, THEY WILL, THEY, WHEN THEY WILL TELL THE OFFICER.

SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HELP BEYOND THAT.

YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THEY COME AND SAY THEY'RE GONNA BE HOMELESS, BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY NOT GONNA BE, BE HOMELESS.

THEY MAY HAVE SOME, UM, SOME, UH, RENTAL ISSUES THAT WE CAN DO, WHAT WE CAN, UH, ALLOCATE FOR THEM.

UH, YOU KNOW, UH, LIKE I SAID, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, IT'S BECAUSE THEY, THEY NEED ASSISTANCE WITH THE BILL AND, AND SUCH, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE, YOU KNOW, FOR THEM TO STAY.

THE IDEA IS TO HELP PEOPLE TO STAY AND NOT, NOT TO BECOME HOMELESS.

RIGHT.

I UNDERSTAND.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE WILL, WHAT WE TRY TO DO.

AND IF WE TRY TO HELP 'EM TO STAY WHERE THEY ARE BEFORE THEY CAN BE HOME HOMELESS, THAT'S, THAT'S BETTER BECAUSE THAT, THAT WE'RE PERVADING SOMEONE TO BECOMING HOMELESS.

AND, AND, UH, BUT WE, WE, WE, UH, WE DO THE INTAKE.

WE TRY TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON, IF THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, THEN WE TRY TO FIND OUT, OKAY, WHAT WE GONNA DO AFTER THAT, OR WHAT OPTIONS THEY HAVE AFTER THAT.

CAN THEY BE MOVING WITH FAMILY? I'M GONNA BE ABLE TO HELP 'EM, OR, YOU KNOW.

AND OF THOSE 17 OUT, EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON.

OF THEIR 17 FAMILIES THAT YOU HELPED

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WITH THE PREVIOUS MONEY, UH, HOW MANY OF THEM WERE ABLE, I COULDN'T GO THAT FAR.

HOW MANY OF THEM WERE ABLE TO GO TO, UH, TO PERMANENT HOUSING, HAD A VOUCHER AND MATCHED UP WITH AN APARTMENT? YEAH.

OR HOW MANY OF THEM HAD TO MOVE BACK IN WITH FAMILY OR HAD ANOTHER SOLUTION? COULD YOU BREAK THAT DOWN FOR US? UH, I CAN PROBABLY TELL YOU THAT MAYBE OUT OF THE 17TH, UH, EITHER THOSE, YOU KNOW, MOVING TO, UH, PERMANENT HOUSING, THE OTHER ONE MOVING INTO FAMILY, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY'RE ALREADY GONNA STAY THERE WHILE THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE FINANCIALLY, UH, GET STABLE SO THEY CAN MOVE INTO, YOU KNOW, INTO A HOUSING THEMSELVES.

UNFORTUNATELY, RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, WE'RE IN THIS SITUATION WHERE EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, FINANCIALS ARE, ARE HURT.

AND SO WE TRY TO DO WHAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW.

UH, BUT I WOULD SAY ABOUT 10 OF THOSE, UH, OUT THE 17TH, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GO INTO A PERMANENT HOUSING.

AND LIKE I SAID, IT IS IT FOR EVERYONE WHO IS, IS IS DIFFERENT SITUATIONS.

WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE ACTUALLY TALK TO THEM AND FIND OUT WHAT EXACTLY IS THAT, UH, THEY NEED IS AND THE SITUATION THERE ARE, UH, THAT WE CAN HELP.

AND COULD YOU TELL ME, PLEASE, HOW MANY DIFFERENT MOTELS DOES THE CENTER WORK WITH? WE ACTUALLY WORK WITH TWO.

WE USED TO WORK WITH THREE, BUT ONE OF 'EM, UH, IS WORKING DIRECTLY WITH THE MULTI-SERVICE CENTER NOW AS I, I GUESS US, UH, HAS A DIRECT, UH, CONTRACT WITH THEM, SO THEY'RE NO LONGER DOING BUSINESS WITH US.

BUT, UM, WE, WE, UM, UH, I THINK I BELIEVE IS THE, UH, , BUT WE USED TO DEAL WITH 'EM, UM, AND, UH, TWO OTHER MORE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I GUESS YOU'RE WELCOME.

MAYBE WHAT WE'RE DRIVING AT IS WHAT WAS THE IMPACT OF YOUR SERVICES ON LONG-TERM HOUSING? WELL, UNFORTUNATELY, I MEAN, WORKING WITH, UH, PEOPLE FIXED INCOME, WHICH ARE, UH, OF THOSE THAT ARE, UH, SOCIAL SECURITY, UH, DISABILITY OR SOCIAL SECURITY INCOME, UH, IT'S ABOUT RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, UM, EVERY DAY WE GET CALLS ABOUT PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO GET INTO HOUSING, WHICH IS NOT AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW, UH, BECAUSE OF FUNDING.

BUT WE TRY TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT, WHAT THE SITUATION IS, YOU KNOW, UM, IF THEY CAN STAY WHERE THEY ARE OR THEY'RE ACTUALLY GONNA BE, UH, NEED TO, NEED TO MOVE OUT, LIKE I SAID, DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE EXACTLY WHAT THEIR NEED IS, WE TRY TO FIND OTHER MEANS, OTHER WAYS TO KEEP 'EM WHERE THEY ARE.

UH, BUT IT IS, IT IS DIFFICULT RIGHT NOW.

I MEAN, AS YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY KNOWS RIGHT NOW, IT IS SO EXPENSIVE.

HOUSING IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST CRISISES THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW.

BUT WE TRY TO CONNECT THEM WITH OTHER SERVICES, FOOD, YOU KNOW, AND IN THAT INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, UH, TRANSPORTATION, IF THEY DON'T HAVE TRANSPORTATION WHERE THEY CAN FIND SOME TRANSPORTATION WHERE THEY CAN DO, UM, AND SOMAR TRYING TO GO BACK TO WORK, YOU KNOW? SO, UH, WE ARE AN INDEPENDENT ADMINISTRATOR THAT WE PROVIDE INFORMATION AND RESOURCES FOR THOSE THAT WANNA CONTINUE BEING INDEPENDENT, BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF OUR PHILOSOPHY.

OKAY.

ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? UH, MARIO, JUST TO CLARIFY, ON YOUR BUDGET, IT SAYS 9,350, BUT ON THE APPLICATION YOU SAID 10,000.

I'M SORRY.

UH, OUR, OUR ACCOUNTANT IS THE ONE THAT DID THAT.

YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M HERE REPRESENTING OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WHO HAPPENS TO VISIT TODAY AND NOT ABLE TO ATTEND.

BUT IF THERE'S ANY, UH, NUMBERS THAT ARE DISPATCHED THERE, I KNOW THAT FOR, HERE'S 10,000.

SO THERE MUST BE A TYPO THERE ON THE, ON THE 9,350.

OH, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A QUESTION.

WE DON'T HAVE COVER OPERATING COSTS, RIGHT? CORRECT.

RIGHT.

SO HOW DO WE PAY US THAT ONE? RIGHT? I, AND RIGHT, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT EITHER.

THE, UM, USUALLY OUR GRANTS DO NOT COVER OPERATIONAL COSTS.

UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE MEANT FOR, UM, GAP PROJECTS OR PILOT PROJECTS.

AND YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT A, SOMEBODY'S, UM, PART-TIME SALARY HERE.

I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT WOULD THIS PERSON DO IF, IF YOU DIDN'T GET THIS GRANT? WELL, I MEAN, WE, WE APPLIED TO ALL, UH, TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.

FOR INSTANCE, WE APPLY

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TO UNITED WAY THROUGH THE, UM, FOR, FOR THE, UH, UH, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? EMERGENCY HOUSING ASSISTANCE.

SO THIS IS JUST ADDITIONAL, UH, FUNDING THAT WE GET ON TOP OF OTHER, YOU KNOW, UH, OTHER ORGANIZATIONS OR, OR FUNDING THAT WE GO AFTER IF, IF FOR ANY REASON WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GET IT.

UH, BECAUSE WE KNOW, WE UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE.

WE ALL OUR PARTNERS ARE TRYING TO APPLY FOR, FOR ASSISTANCE, YOU KNOW, WE UNDERSTAND, BUT YOU KNOW, THIS DOESN'T STOP US FOR CONTINUING PROVIDING ASSISTANCE AND REACHING OUT TO OTHERS.

RIGHT.

FOR FUNDING.

YEAH.

I MEAN, SO WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO AMENDING THE REQUEST TO SUBTRACT THAT SALARY? SO INSTEAD OF 10,000 WOULD BE 707,750? I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T GET THE LAST, THE LAST, THE LAST PART OF THE QUESTION.

WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO AMENDING YOUR REQUEST TO TAKE OUT THE SALARY? UM, THAT'S INCLUDED.

AND SO THE ASK WOULD BE, INSTEAD OF $10,000 WOULD BE $7,750? YEAH, THAT WOULD BE PERFECTLY FINE.

LIKE I SAID, I MEAN, UM, OUR ACCOUNTANT WAS THE ONE THAT DID IT.

UH, MAYBE SHE, UH, DID IT IN A WAY THAT SHE WAS DOING HONOR'S WORK, YOU KNOW, TO, UH, PERSONAL THOUGHTS.

IT CAN BE ADDED TO IT.

UM, BUT THEN THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, UH, REVISE AND, AND RESUBMIT.

WE'D BE GLADLY TO DO THAT.

YEAH.

YEP.

WE JUST DON'T DO IT.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THEY DON'T HAVE TO REVISE IT.

WE CAN JUST AMEND IT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO WE NOW WOULD BE ASKING FOR A GRANT OF, WHAT WAS IT? 7,750.

$750.

UM, SO YOU ACTUALLY NEED A NEW NEGOTI, YOU HAVE A MOTION, RIGHT? OR A, A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

SO THIS, YEAH, THE SUBSTITUTE A SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION OF DISABLED RESOURCES IN THE AMOUNT OF 7,750.

YEAH.

SO THAT IS NOW, SO THAT NOW THE MOTION AND JULIE JUST READ OFF AND BRIANNA APPROVE THE GRANT APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY THIS DISABILITY RESOURCE CENTER FOR THE AMOUNT OF $7,750, CORRECT? CORRECT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? OKAY, PERFECT.

SO THEN WE WILL, SORRY, WE WILL ADD THIS TO THE AGENDA ITEM FOR THE NEXT HAY SAC MEETING TO APPROVE AS A FULL COMMITTEE, AS AS AMENDED.

YES.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO I'LL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND SEND YOU THE DETAILS FOR THAT, MARIO, FOR THE HAY SAC MEETING IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND.

UM, OTHERWISE WE CAN LET YOU KNOW THE RESULTS VIA EMAIL.

YEAH.

OKAY.

ON THE NEXT ONE.

THANK YOU.

RECOMMENDATION.

YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

YEAH, THANK, WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'M SORRY I DIDN'T, I, I, AS I SAID PART THE CONVERSATION, BUT I WANNA SAY THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK TOO.

I KNOW THAT THIS, WE'RE IN REALLY TOUGH SITUATIONS, BUT YEAH.

ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP OUT OUR, OUR PROCEDURES, IT ACTUALLY MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

AND THANK YOU.

AS I SAID, STARTING IS GOOD TO SEE SOMEBODY GETTING CARE OF THOSE LITTLE DETAILS THAT SO OFTEN GET FORGOTTEN, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE IN HOUSING, SO GOOD WORK.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

AND WE HAVE EVERYBODY HERE AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

RECOMMENDATION REVIEW AND THE APPROPRIATE APPROVE THE MAYORS WHEN THE SUBCOMMITTEE GRANT APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY IS FOR FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF 10,000, WE HAVE THE PERSONNEL COST AGAIN, WHICH ONE DOES, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK, LOOK, LOOK LIKE? LET I, I'LL MOVE THAT WE REVIEW AND IF APPROPRIATE, APPROVE IT.

YEAH, LET MOTION, THEN WE NEED A SECOND.

SECOND.

OKAY.

NOW WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.

OKAY.

AND HAILEY IS ON THE CALL JOINING US.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND IS THIS OUR LAST RE DO WE HAVE THE LAST, UH, REPORT FOR THEM? I'M PUTTING IT UP NOW.

OKAY.

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THIS IS A REPORT FROM THE LAST, UH, YES.

APPLICATION AND APPROVAL.

SORRY, LEMME JUST SHARE MY SCREEN REAL QUICK.

AND THEN 180 SHOES WERE PROVIDED THROUGH THEIR FUNDING.

IS THAT, SO THAT SAYS THAT SOMEWHERE? YES, RIGHT HERE.

OH, THERE.

OKAY.

I ASSUME THEY MEAN PAIRS OF SHOES.

YEAH, .

OKAY.

OKAY.

YOU WANT MOVE IT UP THE LAST PART HERE.

OKAY.

AND THIS WAS QUESTION THE SAME AMOUNT OR CORRECT.

10,000.

YES.

IT SHOULD BE STATED THAT, UM, WE HAVE AWARDED THIS ORGANIZATION FOR $10,000 EACH THREE PRIOR TIMES.

SO WE'VE DISTRIBUTED $30,000 TO HIS LITTLE FEE, UM, FROM THE MAYOR'S FUND.

AND SO THIS IS THE FOURTH REQUEST.

WELL, I THINK THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS THAT SINCE OUR FUND WAS BASICALLY CHARTERED TO BE USED FOR HOMELESS, UH, CAN WE GET A BETTER, SOME SENTIMENT ON THAT, THAT WE ARE SURE THAT THEY CHOOSE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO HOMELESS TROUBLE? 'CAUSE THAT IS OUR CHARTER.

I DUNNO IF SHE KNOWS YOU'RE ASKING.

I THEY DO.

I MEAN, THEY, THEY DID THAT QUESTION IS TO US, BASICALLY.

HMM.

WELL, YEAH.

WELL THAT'S TRICKY.

YEAH.

AND THEN THERE, I MEAN, THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS LIKE NEW IMAGE THAT HAVE, UM, SECURED DONATIONS OF THOUSANDS OF SHOES FROM VANS, SHOES, AND GIVE THEM OUT TO, UM, FAMILIES EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AND OTHERS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY DONATE, THEY GET DONATED SHOES AND THEY'RE BRAND NEW STILL IN BOXES IN PLASTIC WITH PAPER MM-HMM .

UM, IT'S JUST, I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS A APPROPRIATE USE, YOU KNOW, THE FOURTH TIME OF, OF THE MAYOR'S FUND MONIES.

WELL, I WOULD ADDRESS MY QUESTION TO THEM, TO THE APPLICANT.

HOW CAN WE BE ASSURED THAT THE SHOES ARE JUST, ARE GOING TO HOMELESS CHILDREN? I, YOUR QUESTION WAS HOW, ONE MORE TIME.

I'M SORRY.

THE, THE CALL'S CUTTING IN AND OFF.

COULD YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? I'M SORRY.

UH, HOW CAN WE BE ASSURED THAT THE CHOOSE PURCHASE THROUGH OUR GRANT ARE GOING TO HOMELESS CHILDREN ONLY SINCE THIS, THAT IS OUR CHARTER FOR THIS FUND? YEAH.

YES.

SO WE WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE LOCAL SHELTERS AND, UH, SCHOOLS.

AND SO, UM, WITH JEFF LEVINE OVER AT THE LONG BEACH, RUSTY MISSION, LONG BEACH, LYDIA HOUSE, UM, EVERY TIME WE WORK WITH THEM, WE GATHER A LIST OF ALL THE CHILDREN'S NAMES AND SHOE SIZES THAT ARE IN, UH, CURRENTLY STAYING THERE AT THE SHELTERS.

AND, UM, AND THEN WE GO OUT AND PURCHASE THE SHOES PER SIZE.

EACH BOX IS THEN LABELED WITH THEIR EXACT NAME AND SHOE SIZE, AND THEN WE HAND DELIVER THEM TO THE, UM, SHELTER TO THE CHILDREN.

UM, USUALLY WE MAKE, YOU KNOW,

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A FUN DAY OF IT AND HAVE, YOU KNOW, CRACKS AND, AND FOOD AND DIFFERENT THINGS FOR THE CHILDREN AS WELL.

AND SO, UM, WE WORK DIRECTLY, UM, AT LONG BEACH CITY COLLEGE WITH, UH, JUSTIN MENDEZ IS THE ONE WHO OVERSEES THE LONG BEACH, UH, CARE CLOSET.

SO IT'S A CONTINUUM OF CARE THAT, UM, WE'RE HOPING TO PROVIDE A NEW AGE GROUP THIS YEAR, UM, AND, UH, WITHIN OUR CITY COLLEGE AND THEN ALSO AT CAL STATE PALM BEACH FOR THE FIRST TIME.

SO WE, WE ARE, WE JUST STARTED REACHING OUT TO THE 18 TO 24 TRANSITIONAL AGE YOUTH, JUST, UM, JUST AFTER HEARING SOME CONCERNS OF DROPPING OUT OF SCHOOL AND NOT BEING ABLE TO WORK.

UM, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE FAMILIES THAT WE SERVE, UH, SHOES, THEY, THEY RIDE THE BUS EVERYWHERE AND SHOES ARE A FORM OF TRANSPORTATION, UM, YOU KNOW, TO GET FROM ONE PLACE TO THE OTHER.

AND SO, UM, THAT'S A LONG ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, BUT YEAH, WE WORK DIRECTLY WITHIN, YEAH.

UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE SOCIAL WORKERS THAT WORK INSIDE OF THE SHELTERS AND SCHOOLS.

OKAY.

SO THEY IDENTIFIED THE CHILDREN THAT ARE ALL GOOD.

UH, AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DON'T, UH, WE ARE LOOKING AT, I'M LOOKING AT THE, THE BUDGET THAT YOU SUBMITTED, AND YOU ARE SUGGESTING THAT I, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THAT SOME OF THE MAYOR'S FUND MONEY, MONEY WOULD GO TO THE PROGRAM DIRECTOR AND TO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, AND ALSO TO OFFICE RENT AND STORAGE TO LICENSES AND INSURANCE TRAVEL EXPENSES, WEB AND INTERNET EXPENSES.

AND THEN YOU WOULD ALSO USE SOME OF THE MONEY TO PURCHASE THE SHOES.

DO, AM I UNDERSTANDING YOUR BUDGET CORRECTLY? UM, NO.

THAT IS THE WHOLE PROGRAM BUDGET.

SO IT IS BASED, THE 10,000 WOULD SPECIFICALLY GO TOWARDS SHOES.

OKAY.

AND SO THE COST OF THE ENTIRE PROGRAM IS, UM, IS LISTED WITH ALL THOSE NUMBERS INCLUDED.

AND SO WE, UM, THE 10,000 WOULD GO TOWARDS 125 PAIRS OF SHOES AND THEY WOULD BE GIVEN OUT ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.

UM, AND, AND SO THAT WOULD MEAN 31 PAIRS PER QUARTER, UM, DIRECTLY TO THE STUDENTS.

AND WHEN YOU PURCHASED THEM, ARE THESE CORPORATIONS GIVING THEM FOR FREE? BUT DOES THE GOOD DISCOUNT, UH, THE RECIPIENTS NO.

THAT YOU, YOU SAID THAT YOU GO TO KOHL'S AND THAT YOU ALSO GO YES.

A LOT OF OUR SHOES ARE PURCHASED THROUGH, UM, WE PURCHASE THEM THROUGH ADIDAS ONLINE, NIKE ONLINE.

AND THEN, UM, KOHL'S HAS BIG SALES FROM TIME TO TIME, AND TYPICALLY WE CAN GET AN 80 TO A HUNDRED DOLLARS PAIR OF SHOES DOWN TO, UM, LIKE IN THE $50 RANGE, SOMETIMES PLUS TAX.

AND SO THE AVERAGE, UM, SHOE SIZE OF, UH, TRANSITIONAL AGE USE IS, UM, A ADULT SIZES.

SO WE'RE TALKING FULL, UM, YOU KNOW, THE FULL PRICE OF THE SHOE LOT SHOES HAVE DONE SO MUCH IN PRICING.

WE USED TO GET THEM FOR 35 BUCKS A PAIR, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, 12 YEARS LATER THEY'RE, THEY'RE $60 ON AVERAGE.

AND SO, UM, YES, WE DO, UM, WORK WITH, WE DO LIKE WORKING WITH NAME BRAND SHOES, JUST SO THAT THEY LAST LONGER AND THEY DON'T GET WORN OUT AS QUICKLY, QUICKLY.

AND ALSO THAT THEY FIT IN, UM, THAT THEY DON'T GET OSTRACIZED BECAUSE THEY'RE WEARING A PUMA AND IT IS, YOU KNOW, OUTDATED AND YOU CAN TELL SOMEONE'S POVERTY LEVEL BASED OFF OF THEIR SHOES.

AND SO THEY TYPICALLY GO WITH THE SHOES THEY WANT TO WEAR, WHICH ARE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE HIGHER END WELL MADE SHOES.

WELL, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, SINCE THEY DO HAVE OPERATING COSTS IN THE BUDGET, AND WE JUST MADE A DECISION ON THAT.

NO, THEY'RE THE, WHAT I UNDERSTOOD HER TO SAY, JIM, IS THE $10,000 THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING FROM THE MAYOR'S FUND IS ONLY TO, TO PURCHASE THE SHOES.

OKAY.

I DIDN'T PICK THAT UP.

GOOD, ACTUALLY.

YEAH.

AND WE DO SUBMIT, WE WILL SUBMIT THE RECEIPTS BASED OFF OF THE $10,000.

I'LL BE VERY HONEST, I'M HAVING FOR SOMEBODY WITH A HEARING IMPAIRMENT,

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THIS IS NOT WORKING WITH THE YEAH.

PHONE THING.

THERE'S BAD.

YEAH.

AND, UH, IT'S HARD, VERY HARD TO UNDERSTAND FOR ME ANYWAY.

UM, OKAY.

RIGHT.

GOT IT.

GOOD.

OH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? AND I WILL NOTE SOMETHING, KNOW YOU AND I HAVE DISCUSSED ABOUT THE ONE TIME THING AND THE WAY IT IS WORDED THAT WE DO NOT FUND ANY, WE DO NOT DO RECURRING GRANTS, BUT IT DOESN'T, WHICH TO ME WOULD MEAN WE WOULD DO THEM SOMETIME INTO THE FUTURE, WHICH OF COURSE WE DON'T.

WE ONLY DO ONE YEAR AT A TIME.

SO IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN WE CAN'T REFUND INDIVIDUAL ONES.

WAIT, LET ME TELL YOU WHAT THE WORDING IS, IF I CAN FIND IT, JENNIFER.

IT SAYS ALL APPROVED ALLOCATIONS LOOKING THERE EARLIER ARE FOR SINGLE USE ONLY RECURRING FUNDING IS NOT AVAILABLE, BUT AN ORGANIZATION CAN RE REAPPLY MORE THAN ONCE.

YEAH.

SO A RECURRING ONE TO ME WOULD BE ONE WHERE WE'D SAY WE'RE GONNA FUND IT FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.

SO IF WE'RE OKAY ON THAT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? I, OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE $10,000 FOR PURCHASE OF SHOES FOR HIS LITTLE FEET.

AND, UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALRIGHT.

APPROVED.

UH, WAS THAT I'M, YEAH, I'M, I'M GOING TO, MAY I ABSTAIN OR I HAVE TO VOTE? YOU HAVE TO VOTE.

YEAH, I HAVE TO VOTE.

OKAY.

I, I'M GOING TO VOTE.

NO, I RESPECT THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING.

UM, MY SENSE IS THAT PART OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO AS THE MAYOR'S FUND IS ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO EXPERIMENT AND COME UP WITH DIFFERENT IDEAS TO HELP THE HOMELESS.

UM, AND THIS HAS OBVIOUSLY BEEN AN IMPORTANT SERVICE FOR NUMEROUS YEARS AND WE'VE SUPPORTED IT, BUT I, I BELIEVE IT'S, IT'S TIME FOR US TO, TO SEE ABOUT SPENDING THIS $10,000 IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

OKAY.

SO I VOTE NO, I ALSO VOTE OKAY.

FOR THE SAME REASON.

OKAY.

I WILL ASK FOR THE VOTE AGAIN.

ALL IT WOULD DO BY SHOW OF HANDS THEN ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

SO IYE.

OKAY.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

NOW WHAT DO WE DO? ? I CAN'T VOTE.

YEAH, RIGHT.

LUCKY YOU, ANGELA .

NO, I WOULDN'T SAY, WELL, ACTUALLY I SHOULDN'T HAVE VOTED UNTIL ANYWAY.

LOT OF OTHER AGENCIES, AND I HAVE SEVERAL NAMES, UM, THEY COULD GET SHOES FROM UNDER ARMOR.

YEAH.

THEY JUST PROBABLY, I MEAN, HALEY, I HOPE YOU KNOW THAT WE DO, WE, WE CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND YOUR COMPASSION AND YOUR IMPACT AND, AND WE WANT CHILDREN TO HAVE SHOES.

WE, WE WANT YOUTH TO HAVE SHOES.

IT'S JUST, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THIS MAYOR'S FUND TO ACTUALLY MOVE THE NEEDLE ON HOMELESSNESS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND SO, UM, IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT SHOES, IT'S THAT WE ARE JUST TRYING TO BE MORE MINDFUL OF THE SITUATION ON THE STREETS AND TRYING TO LEVERAGE THIS FUND TO ADDRESS THAT, UM, SITUATION.

SO WE DO APPRECIATE, AND, UM, BOTH, UM, SOME OF THE OTHER MEMBERS AND I WE'RE HAPPY TO GIVE YOU NAMES OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU CAN SECURE NEW SHOES THAT ARE QUITE POPULAR.

I MEAN, I CAN'T TELL YOU IF THEY'RE GONNA BE NIKES OR ADIDAS, BUT THEY, THEY ARE POPULAR WITH, WITH YOUTH 18 TO 24.

UM, SO WE DO APPRECIATE YOUR WORK.

OKAY.

SO NOT APPROVED.

AND I WILL SAY, AND I BASICALLY AGREE WITH YOU, I WOULD LOVE TO, AND I WOULD'VE LOVED TO, OVER THE YEARS I SAT ON THIS COMMITTEE, SEEN MORE THINGS THAT ADDRESSED HOMELESSNESS AND GAVE US SOME SOLUTIONS.

BUT I'LL BE VERY HONEST, THEY HAVE BEEN RARE .

AND, UH, AND I THINK, UH, I'M NOT SURE HOW WHAT WE DO TO CORRECT THAT, TO BE HONEST.

UH, WE'RE BASICALLY, WE'RE, WE'RE BOUND TO, AND I, I'LL SAY THIS, AND I HAVE BEEN TOTALLY, I HAVE BEEN REALLY OPPOSED TO THE

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HOUSING FORCE CONCEPT AS A SOLUTION TO THIS FOR YEARS, HAVING WORKED IN THE BUSINESS FOR OVER 30 YEARS.

AND, UH, BUT WE'RE BOUND BY STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS PAY ON THOSE THINGS.

HOUSING FIRST IS NOT FEDERAL LAW.

HMM.

HOUSING FIRST IS NOT FEDERAL LAW.

PARTICULAR I KNOW LONG BEACH IS, SORRY, LONG BEACH IS PART OF IT.

IT'S THE COUNTY.

THE COUNTY, YEAH.

WELL, WE HAVE A NO, BUT IT'S NOT, I MEAN, HE SAID IT WAS FEDERAL LAW.

IT'S NOT A LAW.

IT WAS, IT'S A POLICY, A GUIDING POLICY, RIGHT? YEAH.

YEAH.

BUT EVERYONE NOT DOING MORE PERMANENT, RIGHT? YEAH.

NO.

NOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE ON TO TEMPORARY NO, OFF THE STREETS.

YEAH.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

WELL, IT USED TO BE THE VA'S POLICY.

OKAY.

SORRY JIM, JUST REALLY QUICK.

SO THE MOTION FEDERALIZED DOES NOT PASS.

OKAY.

HAILEY.

UM, I WILL EMAIL YOU LATER.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE MOTION DID NOT PASS.

OKAY.

DID YOU HEAR ME CONSIDERATION? HAVE A GOOD ONE.

TALK ABOUT THAT.

OKAY.

SO NOW WE HAVE, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO REVIEW IF APPROPRIATE APPROVED THE MERITS FUND SUBCOMMITTEE GRANT APPLICATION FOR BY URBAN SOCIAL SERVICE AND ADVOCACY IN THE AMOUNT OF $10,000.

I'LL MOVE.

I HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND.

I, I'LL GO AHEAD.

DISCUSSION.

HERE'S THE FINAL ONE PAGE UP FROM THE LEFT.

SO THEIR LAST GAS WAS FOR 10,000.

OH, NO, IT WAS 5,000.

$5,000 TO BE USED FOR.

IT WAS GROCERIES, FOOD.

FOOD AND DEPARTMENT RELATED FOOD.

AND GO TO, THERE WE GO.

AND, UH, ANY QUESTIONS? UH, I GUESS I WANTED TO KNOW WHERE THEY GOT THEIR FAMILIES FROM.

I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THEM ACTUALLY.

I'M SORRY, SAY THAT AGAIN.

YOU ASKED WHERE WE GOT FAMILIES FROM.

YES.

UM, SO THEY COME TO US, UM, UM, CASE MANAGEMENT, UH, WE HAVE A NETWORK.

PEOPLE COME TO US AND ASK US FOR, BUT HOW DO THEY FIND YOU? UM, WEBSITES, WORD OF MOUTH, FIRES, RESOURCE FAIRS, UM, DIFFERENT, UH, EVENTS WE GO TO.

UM, WE'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE.

WE EVEN HAVE AN APP, UH, THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED TO TRY TO HELP PEOPLE.

SO, UH, PEOPLE FIND US BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING REPORTS TO PEOPLE IN LONG BEACH FOR, FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.

AND YOU'RE, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE A GREAT PROGRAM AT ALL, BUT IT'S NOT EXACTLY JUST TARGETED AT HOMELESS PEOPLE.

RIGHT.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE SERVING OTHER GROUPS OF PEOPLE.

CORRECT.

SO WE DO, WE SERVE UNHOUSED AND WE SERVE, WE TRY TO PREVENT SOMEBODY BECOMING UNHOUSED AS WELL.

UH, BUT 90% OF PEOPLE SERVE ARE UN UNHAPPY IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

COUCH SURFING, LIVING IN THEIR CAR AT A SHELTER, TRANSITIONAL HOUSING ON THE BRINK OF POVERTY, HOMELESS, SINCE WE ONLY FUND FOR HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS.

YEAH, CORRECT.

UNDERSTOOD.

IS THERE A WAY THIS WOULD BE, WE WOULD BE INSURED THAT IT WOULD ONLY GO TO HOMELESS INDIVIDUAL? ABSOLUTELY.

I MEAN, THE ONLY, THE ONLY, UH, THING THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT IS HOW I SAID ABOUT HOMELESS PREVENTION AS WELL.

UM, IF SOMEBODY NEEDS MONEY TO PAY THEIR UTILITY SO THEY DON'T BECOME HOMELESS, I THINK THAT ALSO TOO GOES WITH THE HOMELESS PROBLEM.

NOT THAT SOMEBODY'S OUT ON THE STREET, BUT SOMEBODY WHO'S ABOUT TO BE OUT ON THE STREET IF THEY DON'T GET SOMETHING.

PROBLEM SOLVING FUND THAT THEY NEED, FOR INSTANCE, AT TIRE FOR THEIR CAR OR FOOD SO THEY CAN EAT SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO DECIDE WHICH BILL THEY'RE GONNA PAY.

UM, THINGS OF THAT NATURE AS WELL.

SO EVERYBODY HAS BEEN HOMELESS OR ABOUT TO BE HOMELESS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE SOME OF THE SUCCESSES THEY

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NEEDED AND HAD TO DECIDE WHAT I WAS GONNA DO.

WE WANNA PREVENT PEOPLE FROM BEING HOMELESS AS WELL, YOU KNOW? UH, BUT LIKE I SAID, 90% OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE THIS FUNDS WERE HOMELESS.

EITHER COUCH SERVING IN THEIR CAR AT THE MSW CENTER, UM, IN TRANSITIONAL, POSSIBLY TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, GETTING READY TO LOSE AND THEN GO OUT ON THE STREET, STUFF OF THAT NATURE.

IS THIS THE PREVIOUS ONE? THIS IS THEIR CURRENT APPLICATION, THE BUDGET.

YOU WANNA SEE THE YEAH.

OKAY.

PREVIOUS ONE.

DID THEY, DID THEY HAVE A PREVIOUS? I BELIEVE IT WAS, IT WAS THE SAME, BUT, YOU KNOW.

YEAH.

YEAH.

COULD YOU GIVE US A, AN OVERVIEW OF HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO, TO WORK WITH, WITH THESE FUNDS IN THE PAST? UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS ABOUT 16 TO 17 PEOPLE.

I APOLOGIZE.

I JUST CAME BACK A MOUTH WITH MY BIRTHDAY, UM, 16, AND I HAD A SEIZURE AND A PHONE GLITCH.

UM, I HAD IT, I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE IT WAS 16 TO 17 FAMILIES.

UM, WE WERE ABLE TO HELP WITH NUMEROUS DIFFERENT, UM, DIFFERENT PROBLEM SOLVING, BUT, UH, GETTING THEIR PHONE ON SO THAT THEY CAN, UH, UH, UH, UH, UH, LOOK FOR WORK BECAUSE OF HOME WAS SLEEPING IN THEIR CAR AND THEIR PHONE AND PHONE WAS CUT OFF, GIVING SOMEBODY A TIRE, GETTING SOME FAMILIES, SOME FOOD, UM, BECAUSE THEY WERE LIVING AT SOMEBODY ELSE'S HOUSE AND DIDN'T EVEN HAVE FOR FOOD, THINGS OF THOSE NATURE.

UM, AND FOR THOSE 17 FAMILIES, WHAT ABOUT 17 GRAND ACROSS 5,000.

OKAY.

AND FOR THOSE FOLKS, WHAT WERE THE TOP THREE NEEDS THAT YOU FILLED? UM, THE TOP THREE WOULD BE, I GUESS FOOD WAS ONE.

UM, DIFFERENT PROBLEM SOLVING.

SO, SO WE, WE SPREAD IT OUT.

IT WASN'T JUST FOR ONE THING, SO WE HELPED WITH DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO SOME PEOPLE NEEDED FURNITURE FOR THEIR APARTMENT BECAUSE THEY WERE, THEY JUST GOT, THEY JUST GOT WORK WITH THEM FOR LIKE SIX MONTHS AND THEY NEEDED SOME FURNITURE SO THAT THEY COULD, UH, NOT BE SLEEPING ON THE FLOOR IN THE PLACE.

WE HELPED THEM GET OUT OF WORKING WITH 'EM FOR SIX MONTHS TO GET 'EM OFF THE STREET, NOT THE SHELTER.

UM, IT WASN'T, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO ANSWER BECAUSE THERE WAS SOMEONE WHO NEEDED FOOD OR SOMEONE WHO NEEDED CLOTHES, OR SOMEONE WHO NEEDED TOOLS.

THERE WAS SOMEONE WHO JUST NEEDED THEIR SAFE SERVE, WHICH WAS LIKE $7 OR SOMETHING.

THEY JUST NEEDED A SAFE SERVE LICENSE SO THAT THEY COULD GET A JOB, UM, AND HAVE THAT LITTLE CERTIFICATE.

UM, SO I I, I, IT'S HARD TO SAY THE TOP NEED FOR, OF COURSE, FOOD WAS ONE, TRANSPORTATION WAS ONE, BUT, BUT JUST DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT COME UP WITH DIFFERENT BARRIERS THAT ARE NOT TRADITIONAL, LIKE A HOUSING VOUCHER OR, UH, A UTILITY PAYMENT.

BUT THINGS SUCH AS, I NEED MY PHONE BILL PAY SO I CAN MAKE IT TO WORK SO I CAN MOVE FOR WORK BECAUSE I'M SLEEPING IN MY CAR AND I DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, INTERNET OR ANYTHING, SO I NEED MY PHONE.

SO, UM, IT WAS UNIQUE.

EVERY CASE WAS UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT, TRUTHFULLY.

AND YOU UNDERSTAND OUR PROGRAM IS REIMBURSEMENT.

I'M SORRY, SAY THAT AGAIN? IT'S A LITTLE LOW.

UM, OUR PROGRAM IS REIMBURSEMENT.

AND, AND YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT? YES, THAT'S WHAT WE DID LAST TIME.

OKAY, GOOD.

AND WHAT WAS THE END RESULT FOR, FOR THESE 17 FAMILIES? DID PEOPLE END UP FINDING SOME VERSION OF PERMANENT HOUSING, OR WHAT, WHAT WERE THE RESULTS? YEAH, SO THE RESULTS WERE FOR US WHERE WE SOLVED THE MEDIA PROBLEMS. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, HOUSING IS, IS, IS TOUGH.

UM, SO MEDIA PROBLEM WAS, WE HAD A FAMILY WITH TWO KIDS.

THEY WERE SPANISH SPEAKERS, UM, AND THEY HAD A PLACE THE NEXT DAY, THEY HAD TWO SMALL KIDS.

THEY WEREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO A PLACE THE NEXT DAY.

THEY HAD TO HAVE SOMEBODY COME PICK THEM UP BECAUSE THE THING GOING ON WITH ICE AND EVERYTHING TO GET THEM TO A SECURE LOCATION.

SO THEY NEEDED TO STAY IN A MOTEL FOR ONE NIGHT.

SO STOOD OUT TO BE ON THE STREET WITH A BABY AND A SMALL CHILD.

WE WERE ABLE TO GET THEM A MOTEL FOR ONE NIGHT, AND THEN NEXT DAY THEY WERE ABLE TO GO.

SO EVERYTHING WE HELPED WITH HAD TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF RESULT.

LIKE WE GOT THEIR CALL TURNED ON SO THAT THEY COULD LOOK FOR WORK SO THAT THEY COULD KEEP CALLING TO TRY TO GET RESOURCE AND STUFF LIKE THAT OF ONE FAMILY.

WE HELPED WITH FOOD AND WE GOT EM EXTRA FOOD BECAUSE WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY SERVED PLATES.

THAT'S HOW THEY MAKE THEIR INCOME.

UM, SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET 'EM EXTRA.

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SO NOT ONLY THEY CAN EAT, BUT THEY CAN MAKE PLATES TO MAKE MONEY.

SO EVERYTHING WE DO IS UNIQUE TO THE PERSON, AND IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA SOLVE SOMETHING RIGHT THERE FOR THEM IN ORDER TO GET TO THE NEXT STEP OF WHATEVER THAT IS.

THANK YOU.

SINCE I SEE QUITE A BIT IN YOUR APPLICATION ABOUT WORK AND HELPING PEOPLE WORK, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO BRING THIS PROGRAM TO OUR SHELTERS DIRECTLY? WILLING TO BRING THE PROGRAM TO WHERE? TO THE SHELTERS.

TO THE SHELTERS? IN OTHER WORDS, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO OFFER THESE KIND OF SERVICES IN PERSON? OH, YEAH.

AT SOME OF OUR SHELTERS WORK WITH MSW.

YEAH.

WE WORK WITH MSW, UH, WE ALSO HAVE A SHELTER OURSELVES.

UH, THE COUNTY JCO, UM, UH, WE'VE HELPED THE PEOPLE.

YEAH, WE, WE, WE WORK WITH MSW.

WE HAVE OUR FIRE THERE.

WE BRING THEM DOWN EM IN THE LITTLE THING.

SOME OF THE CASE MANAGERS THERE KNOW US.

WE WORK WITH THE HOMELESS COURT, NANCY, UM, GIGI AND ALL THEM.

WE WORK WITH THEM A LOT TO TRY TO GET THE TICKETS REMOVED FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, SLEEPING IN THEIR CARS.

UH, SO YEAH, WE DEFINITELY, COLLABORATION IS, IS WHAT COULD WE MAKE THAT A CONDITION OF THE FUNDS THAT WOULD BE OFFERED SHELTERS.

SO ARE YOU ACTUALLY DOING JOB TRAINING OR JOB DEVELOPMENT OR JOB CONNECTION, OR ARE YOU REFERRING THEM TO SOMEBODY LIKE , I'M SORRY, CUT OFF INSTEAD OF YOU ACTUALLY DOING JOB DEVELOPMENT OR JOB TRAINING OR JOB CONNECTION? WE DO JOB CONNECTIONS.

WE MAINLY HELP PEOPLE, UH, GO TO DIFFERENT RESOURCE CENTERS OR WE, WE HAVE DIFFERENT, UH, LIKE SECURITY.

UM, WE WORK WITH CS, UH, CSC, THE YELLOW JACK TECH PEOPLE.

UM, WE WORK WITH A FEW, UH, UH, WHAT ARE THEY CALLED? UH, UH, STAFFING AGENCIES.

WE'LL SEND PEOPLE TO THEM.

AND SO, HEY, OUR PEOPLE.

UM, SO, SO WE JUST WORK IN PLACING PEOPLE AND GETTING THEM THE INFORMATION.

AND WE, WE PUT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN TRAINING, SO WE TRY AND COORDINATE WITH THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THAT PAID TRAINING OR STIPEND TRAINING, ESPECIALLY SOMEBODY IN THE SHELTER, UH, YOU KNOW, LY HOW HERE OR THERE.

UH, SOMETIMES THERE'S RESTRICTIONS THEY'LL FACE ON THE SHELTER TOO.

LIKE LYDIA HOUSE, THE GIRLS HAVE TO BE IN AT FIVE O'CLOCK.

SO WE GOTTA WORK AROUND ALL THE LIMITATIONS AND ALL THE BARRIERS THAT, THAT PEOPLE ARE FACING SOMETIMES.

WELL, SO YOU DON'T HAVE A ONSITE JOB, UH, JOB DEVELOPER CURRENTLY DO, DO YOU HAVE A ONSITE JOB DEVELOPER? NO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

REFERRAL.

WE REFER OUT JOB DEVELOPERS.

I MEAN, WE, WE HAVE A CASE MANAGER WHO HELPED WITH DOC DEVELOPMENT IN A WAY, BUT NOT DOC DEVELOPER SOLELY DEDICATED TO THAT.

SO THOSE VOCATIONAL TRAINING CLASSES, THAT WOULD JUST BE A REFERRAL TO A PLACE THAT DOES VOCATIONAL TRAINING CLASSES, CORRECT? YEAH.

UM, A LITTLE MORE THAN A REFERRAL.

WE PARTNER WITH THESE PEOPLE TO, SO WE, WE HAVE RELATIONSHIPS, SO I'D SAY, HEY, THEY'LL ASK ME, HEY, WE GOT THREE SLOTS LEFT FOR CULINARY, OR THREE SLOTS LEFT FOR CONSTRUCTION.

DO YOU HAVE PEOPLE, OR WE'LL SEND PEOPLE OVER TO THEM AND WE DON'T JUST LIKE, UH, DO A WARM HANDOFF.

MM-HMM .

LIKE WE DON'T JUST DO A, A REFERRAL.

WE DO A WARM HANDOFF.

SO WE ADVOCATE FOR TALK FOR THAT PERSON AS WELL.

LIKE, UH, HEY, WE WE'RE SITTING TO SOMEBODY WHERE OUR PEOPLE HELP THEM OUT.

ANY FURTHER QUESTION? UM, JULIE, YOU DID WANNA ASK WHY THEY HAVE JUST A CARAVAN FOR JUSTICE DISAPPROVED UNDER IRS? RIGHT.

UM, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ON YOUR, UM, IRS SUBMISSION LETTER.

IT SAYS, UM, THE APPLICANT'S NAME IS CARAVAN FOR JUSTICE, AND THAT WAS ONLY IT, IT WASN'T THAT OLD.

I WANNA SAY 2023 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO YOU SAID IT, UH, WHAT ABOUT THAT? SORRY, SAID IT AGAIN.

YOU SAID IT CARE MEMBER JUSTICE DIED HERE AFTER THAT.

WELL, THAT WAS WHAT, UM, YOUR IRS LETTER VERIFYING.

VERIFYING THAT YOUR, UH, 5 0 1 C3, IT SAID CARAVAN FOR JUSTICE AND I, I WANNA SAY IT WAS DATED.

I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME.

I WANNA SAY IT WAS DATED 2023, BUT ON YOUR APPLICATION IT SAYS YOU'VE BEEN IN SERVICE FOR SIX YEARS.

SO I WASN'T SURE IF IT WAS A A, AN ERROR OR I DON'T KNOW WHAT, UH, MAYBE I JUST SENT BACK THE TAXES FOR THAT YEAR.

SO WE'VE BEEN INCORPORATED SINCE JULY 22ND, 2020, I BELIEVE.

OKAY.

WELL, BUT, BUT

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WHAT IS CARAVAN FOR JUSTICE? THAT IS THE, OUR OLD DAY.

WE JUST HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH THE PAPERWORK IN THE HOOPS TO CHANGE IT OR DEVI.

OKAY.

BECAUSE IT, IT'S A BIG PROCESS TO CHANGE.

THEY SAID IT WOULD EASIER JUST TO DO A DBA FOR NOW.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW.

THE IRS SEEMS TO HAND OUT A LOT OF NON-PROFIT DESIGNATIONS.

UM, YEAH, MAYBE YOU SHOULD SUBMIT SOMETHING, WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU SENT TO THEM, TO US SO THAT WE HAVE THE, THE PROPER DOCUMENTATION.

YEAH, I'M SORRY.

WHICH, WHICH DOCUMENT IS, IS NOT CORRECT.

WELL, THE ONLY ONE WE HAVE THAT IS CORRECT.

THAT'S OUR LEGAL NAME.

THEY PROBABLY AS A DBA YOUR BUSINESS ADDRESS.

RIGHT.

NO, I KNOW.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

SO THEY COULD STILL OPERATE UNDER THOSE THINGS.

RIGHT, BUT DON'T THEY HAVE TO HAVE A LETTER THAT SAYS THAT? YES.

WELL, THAT, WELL, YEAH.

SO THEY COULD SUBMIT ADDITIONAL, I MEAN, I'M JUST ASKING FOR WHATEVER DOCUMENT YOU HAVE THAT SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A NEW NAME LIST, THE DBA.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

THE LETTER.

THEY HAVE BOTH FOR OUR EI TO HAVE BOTH OF THEM ON THERE.

I DOESN'T NEED THE DBA PAPERWORK, ALL THAT STUFF.

WE GOT THAT.

NO PROBLEM.

THAT WOULD BE PERFECT.

YEAH.

AND I GUESS WE COULD DEFER IT UNTIL WE GET THAT INFORMATION.

MM-HMM .

AND THEN, UM, HOW DO YOU, HOW, I KNOW THAT YOU WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.

HOW DO YOU, UM, SEGREGATE PEOPLE WHO JUST LIVE IN LONG BEACH IN YOUR PROGRAMMING? I MEAN, WE'RE BASED OUTTA LONG BEACH.

OUR HEADQUARTERS IS THE LONG BEACH.

YEAH, I I I KNOW THAT, BUT YOU, YOU HAVE A BROADER REACH, RIGHT? YES, SAN YES.

YES.

THEY JUST, THEY TELL US THEY WILL, WHEN THEY SUBMIT THEIR THING, IT'LL SAY THAT THEY'RE LONG BEACH.

A LOT OF TIMES, UM, WE HAVE A QR CODE, SO PEOPLE WILL JUST SUBMIT THEIR INFORMATION AND IT'LL SAY LONG BEACH ON THERE.

IF IT'S OUTSIDE OF LONG BEACH AND LONG, TELL 'EM WE CAN'T HELP FOLKS WITH THIS FUND, BUT DEVICE DIRECTED FOR THE, OKAY.

OKAY.

THE WISHES OF THE COMMITTEE.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE OR DISPROVE? WELL, I GUESS I'D LIKE TO, I DON'T, I, I DON'T KNOW IF JENNIFER, YOU HAVE TO HELP ME.

MAYBE IT'S A SUBSTITUTE MOTION, BUT I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE, UH, PUT THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION ON HOLD TO OUR NEXT MEETING AND THAT GIVES TIME FOR US TO HAVE RECEIVED THE DOCUMENTS ABOUT THEIR LEGAL 5 0 1 C3 STATUS.

RIGHT.

UM, I BELIEVE YOU GUYS, I CAN SEND THAT TO YOU RIGHT NOW.

IT'LL HELP.

I MEAN, I CAN EMAIL AND GIVE A SECOND.

YEAH.

BECAUSE OTHERWISE I SUBMITTED ALL THAT DOCUMENTATION PREVIOUSLY.

WE HAD A LAST, WELL WE HAVE, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

YEAH.

DO I HAVE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? AS A FRIENDLY, SO THE MOTION IS TO, TO HOLD THIS OVER, TO DEFER.

OH, WELL I THINK IT WOULD BE THEN TWO MONTHS FROM NOW AND I DON'T THINK, THINK YOU WANT TO DO THAT TO YEAH.

'CAUSE THEN WE STILL HAVE TO CREATE AN MOU SEND.

IT'S A, OKAY, SO I DON'T HAVE A SECOND SO FAR.

SO THE MOTION, SO THAT FAILS THAT ONE.

DO I HAVE ANOTHER MOTION TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE? IF YOU CAN SEND THOSE DOCUMENTS OVER WITH THAT BE SUFFICIENT.

YEAH.

MM-HMM.

IF SHE SENDS THEM TODAY, I SAY YOU CAN PROBABLY DO A CONTINGENT ON RECEIPT OF THOSE.

SO AFTER, AS LONG AS WE'RE ABLE TO CONFIRM BASICALLY THE DBA.

ARE YOU MAKING HIM UP? ARE YOU MAKING HIM UP? JENNIFER? RIGHT NOW SOMEBODY NEEDS TO MAKE LUNCH.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

I'M GONNA, GEEZ, I JUST, SOME OF THIS, IT'S NOT LIKE A LOT OF, UH, DEFINITIVE NUMBERS.

SO I'M GONNA, AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, DENY.

OKAY.

UH, AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO DISAPPROVED THE APPLICATION.

I THINK IF SHE FOLLOW THE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

THIS YOU MIGHT CLARIFY MOTION THAT THE APPLICATION IS DENIED.

OKAY.

RIGHT TO THE AGENDA HAS LOST TATIANA.

I'M SORRY.

WHETHER IT WAS DENIED, CORRECT.

I'M SORRY.

CORRECT.

THE,

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UH, APPLICATION WAS DENIED.

IT WAS DENIED.

I'M SORRY, SAY ONE MORE TIME.

I APOLOGIZE FOR GARY HARD HERE.

THE APPLICATION WAS DENIED AT THE MOMENT.

UM, YOU ARE WELCOME TO RESUBMIT IF YOU WOULD LIKE, UM, FOR WITH CLARIFYING BUDGET NUMBERS, UM, TEMPLATE.

BUT AT THE MOMENT IT HAS BEEN DENIED.

UM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND SEND YOU AN EMAIL LATER TODAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

HAVE A GOOD ONE.

OKAY.

NOW WE HAVE THE LEGAL, YOU KNOW, BEFORE JENNIFER, I JUST WANTED TO FIND THERE IS AN APPEAL PROCESS THAT ANY ONE OF THEM CAN.

YEAH, WE CAN DO.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ON THE WEBSITE, BUT THERE, THERE USED TO BE ONE.

WE'VE HAD SOME.

SO IS THAT PART OF WHAT YOU SHARE WITH PEOPLE, JENNIFER, WHEN IT'S YEAH.

AN APPLICATION IS NOT APPROVED.

NOT APPROVED.

UM, NO.

WE DON'T DON MUCH.

WE DON'T.

OKAY.

SO WHERE IS, OKAY, OUR NEXT, UH, ITEM IS RECOMMENDATION TO REVIEW THE PROPOSED $50,000 BUDGET PLAN FOR THE RARE FUND HYGIENE PROJECT AND DISCUSS SUBMISSION TO THE MAYOR, CITY MANAGER AND CITY COUNCIL WITH FUNDING PROVIDED THROUGH THE MAYOR'S FUND.

SO, MOVED.

I'LL SECOND.

OKAY.

COMMENTS? WELL, WE TALKED ABOUT IT LAST WEEK.

YEAH, I, I SAW LIKE IT MYSELF.

YEAH.

I WA I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD, UM, EMPHASIZE THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF IS EXISTING CITY FACILITIES THAT HAVE RESTROOMS THAT COULD BE USED AT, FOR THIS PILOT.

RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, SIX MONTH PILOT.

UM, RATHER THAN BRINGING IN A PORTA, YOU KNOW, AN A DA PORTA POTTY THAT JUST, I DON'T YEAH.

YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY DIFFERENT, ESPECIALLY FOR WOMEN.

IT IS VERY, I AGREE.

WE WERE AT THE AMPHITHEATER AND THEY FINALLY HAD SOME, SHE HAD NICE RESTROOMS FOR THE LADIES.

YES.

WHICH WAS GREAT.

I WAS VERY, THE TRAILERS.

YES.

YEAH.

LEMME JUST ADD THIS, I, UH, GOT SOME INFORMATION YESTERDAY.

MM-HMM .

AND, UM, I JUST THINK THEY NEED TO EXPLORE, GO TO LA THEY HAVE SO MANY MORE OPTIONS FOR SHOWERS.

OH YEAH.

I'VE, THEY HAVE ONE HERE CALLED, I MEAN, I KNOW THESE, I WORK, THEY HAVE THE SHOWER, SHOWER URBAN CHE.

YES.

FIVE KEYS.

SO I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HAS WENT TO TALK TO THEM SPECIFICALLY.

OH.

I'VE GONE TO THOSE PLACES.

YOU'VE TALKED TO.

I'VE, I, THE SHERIFF STAFF, YOU'VE TALKED TO THE CARE.

I'VE GONE SEVERAL TIMES.

WELL, HAVING, I MEAN, WHEN YOU GUYS WENT TO TALK, THEY, THEY'RE ALL, THEY'RE, THEY'VE, THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR YEARS.

I KNOW.

AND THEY'RE OPEN 24 7.

BUT I'M SAYING FOR LONG BEACH, HAS ANYBODY REACHED OUT TO THEM? OH, I SENT THIS.

I'VE SENT THE CITY STAFF AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE LINKS TO THESE PLACES TO GO VISIT.

I OFFER TO DRIVE THEM.

YEAH.

AND THEY OPEN 24 7.

AND IT'S NOT, IT'S, IT'S HARD BECAUSE SOMEHOW OUR COMMUNITY HAS SUCH A FEAR OF NOT IN MY BACKYARD THAT WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT BASIC NEEDS IN THE MOST, YOU KNOW, THINK IT'S JUST, WELL SEE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW IT'S DONE.

OH, COME, I'LL YOU, UM, YEAH, I, I KNOW THE PEOPLE THERE, UM, WHO GIVE TOURS, IT'S VERY EFFICIENT.

THEY'RE OPEN 24 7.

THEY HAVE AN ATTENDANT.

IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A NICE ONE.

SO IT'S TRAILERS AND THEY HAVE AN ATTENDANT THAT CLEANS EVERY SHOWER AND EVERY BATHROOM AFTER EVERY USE.

YES.

RIGHT.

I WORKED ON, AND IT'S WORKED.

AND IT, IT'S A PERSON WHO HAD EXPERIENCED HOMELESSNESS.

FOR THE MOST PART.

I WORKED WITH THOSE ON SKID ROW.

YES.

LA SKID ROW.

RIGHT.

WHEN WE PUT THEM IN SEVERAL, THEY WERE ACTUALLY DEVELOPED IN FRANCE AS IT CLOSED.

AND THE TECHNOLOGY, THEY WORKED OUT QUITE WELL.

THEY DID, BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

AFTER EIGHT USE, THEY WERE SPRAYED INSIDE.

AND, UM, AND YOU'RE RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS WE FORGET ABOUT BRINGING PEOPLE OUT OF HOMELESSNESS IS THAT THEY NEED TO BE TREATED WITH DIGNITY DURING THAT PROCESS.

THAT'S A BIG ITEM THAT GETS FORGOTTEN.

MM-HMM .

AND THAT'S THE ULTIMATE HAVING NO DIGNITY IS HAVING NO RESTROOM, NO HYGIENE FACILITIES.

IT REALLY IS.

AND, UH, I, AS I SAID, I I THOUGHT THAT WAS AN INTERESTING ONE, BUT I DO SEE SOME HOLES IN IT THERE THAT YOU'RE RIGHT.

THAT WHEREVER POSSIBLE WE SHOULD USE EXISTING ONES JUST FOR THIS PILOT AT LEAST, JUST SO WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH OTHER YEAH.

BECAUSE THEN YOU ALREADY KNOW IT'S AADA A IT HAS ALL THE SAFETY THINGS IN PLACE ALREADY.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

WELL, AND WHAT THAT MIGHT DO, IF, IF

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THE CITY COUNCIL SAYS YES, WE'LL FOCUS ON CITY PROPERTY BATHROOMS, THEN INSTEAD OF SPENDING THE MONEY ON THE RENTAL OF THE PORTA-POTTIES, MONEY CAN BE SPENT ON AN ATTENDANT YEAH.

IN ADDITION TO SECURITY.

RIGHT.

AND TO BE HONEST, I WOULD BE VERY CONCERNED THAT THE PART OF PI WOULD NOT LAST LONG WITH THE POPULATION.

THEY COULD BE DESTROYED VERY QUICKLY INTERNALLY, UNFORTUNATELY.

OKAY.

THAT IS AN ISSUE.

ALRIGHT.

AND SO THE PERMANENT BATHROOM WITH MORE STAFF ATTENDING WOULD BE A MUCH MORE PRACTICAL IDEA MM-HMM .

THAT THEY COULD BE CLEANED UP AND, UH, KEPT IN USE AND SAY, IT MIGHT ONLY GET A COUPLE OF USES OUT OF THE QUARTER BODY.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE COULD SCALE WHAT THEY'RE DOING AT THE CHURCH YOU TOOK ME TO.

I MEAN, IT'S, YEAH, IT'S, WELL, CAN'T I GET, I MEAN, I'M JUST, JUST THINKING, I MEAN, YOU SERVED SO MANY PEOPLE IN ONE PARTICULAR DAY.

YEAH.

UH, IT WAS, SEEMED LIKE IT WAS LIKE A WELL OILED MACHINE.

MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S WHAT THAT SIDE I KNOW.

NO, NO.

WELL, UM, ACTUALLY, YOU, YOU DO NEED SOMETHING IN DOWNTOWN.

I MEAN, THAT IS THE GREATEST CONCENTRATION OF UNHOUSED ON THE STREET HOMELESSNESS.

UM, BUT THERE'S PLENTY OF CITY FACILITIES IN AND AROUND DOWNTOWN THAT CAN BE USED TO DO THIS.

UM, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, INCLUDING THE, THE PARKS.

YEAH.

BECAUSE I, I, I WANNA SAY, I KNOW AT THE RIVER THERE ARE INDIVIDUAL CONCRETE BATHROOMS, INDIVIDUAL STALLS, UM, AND ONE OF THOSE COULD REMAIN OPEN AND THAT WOULD BE IMPACTFUL.

YEAH.

UM, AND THEY WOULDN'T BE THAT HARD TO CLEAN BECAUSE THOSE, YOU LITERALLY COULD TAKE HOSE.

YEAH.

YES.

PRESSURE WASHER.

YEAH.

YEAH, YEAH.

WHICH I THINK THEY DO WELL, TO BE HONEST, IF IT WERE JUST SET UP THAT THEY COULD BASICALLY BE SPRAYED DOWN AT ANY TIME, THAT WOULD SOLVE THE MAINTENANCE PROBLEM.

REALLY.

IT COULDN'T BE VERY SIMPLE.

AND WHAT I CAN, I CAN TELL YOU FROM MY OBSERVATION AT SKID ROW, BECAUSE THE ATTENDANT IS RIGHT THERE.

YEAH.

AND HE DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, HE JUST GOES FROM STALL TO STALL.

YEAH.

UM, I THINK PEOPLE ARE MORE RESPECTFUL.

YEAH.

THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT GONNA TRASH.

I, I DON'T SEE THE DESTRUCTION OVER THERE IN, AT LEAST IN THE, IN THE RESTROOMS OR THE SHOWERS.

UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE MINDFUL THAT SOMEBODY'S JOB IS TO CLEAN UP AFTER THEM.

YEAH.

WELL, I THINK THE POINT IS THAT HAVING THE STAFFING WOULD PREVENT THE DISRUPTION PRETTY MUCH.

MM-HMM.

AND IT MAKE MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW.

YEAH.

I'VE GONNA HESITATE, BUT YEAH.

YEAH.

SO WHERE'S THAT LINE? I GUESS WE COULD, SO I COULD SEND SARAH AN UPDATE OF THIS DISCUSSION MM-HMM .

UM, SO THAT SHE CAN REVISE THE PROPOSAL.

HOW DID THEY GET THE 50,000 MM-HMM .

HOW DID THEY, HOW DID THEY DECIDE ON THE 50,000? IT WAS, UM, I THINK THE WAY THEY DID IT, I DON'T KNOW.

YOU CAN CORRECT ME.

I THINK IT WAS BASED OFF OF PAUL'S, UH, PRO ESTIMATED COST.

YES.

SARAH.

AND THEN WE CUT IT IN HALF.

RIGHT.

WELL, 'CAUSE THIS IS, THIS ESTIMATE IS FOR 12 MONTHS AND IT'S ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND.

AND SO SHE JUST DID SIX MONTHS AND IT'S 50,000.

DOES, THAT'S HOW YEAH.

YEAH.

THAT WAS IT.

YEAH.

UM, WELL, I THINK IF WE SEND IT FORWARD WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT UH, WE WANT THEM RATHER THAN TRYING TO DO THE PORTABLE AT ALL.

YEAH.

IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, THEY BE, IT'S POSSIBLE SET UP CLOSE TO A EXISTING TOILET AND SPEND THE EXTRA MONEY ON STAFFING YEAH.

EXISTING.

YEAH.

YEAH.

WITH PUBLIC ACCESS TO A BATHROOM IN A CITY OWNED BUILDING MM-HMM .

YEAH.

SUCH AS RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

PARKS WE NEED TO PUT PARK THERE TOO.

YEAH.

AND OTHER SPACES.

'CAUSE SOMETIMES MM-HMM .

YEAH.

OKAY.

I SEE.

RIGHT.

DO YOU WANT TO READ OFF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? OKAY.

A MOTION.

SO THE MOTION, JENNIFER, WELL, THE MOTION WOULD STAY THE SAME.

IT WOULD JUST BE THE ACTUAL PROPOSAL LANGUAGE THAT HAS TO, NEEDS A LITTLE EDIT.

YEAH.

SO THE MOTION IS THE SAME.

RIGHT.

UM, YEAH.

AND WE ALREADY HAVE THAT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? YES.

IN FAVOR.

AYE.

AND THEN AT THE NEXT HAYSTACK MEETING, WE'LL PRESENT THE FINAL VERSION AND THE MOTION WILL READ THE SAME AND STAFF WILL WORK ON THE TWO FOR FRONT MEMO FOR IT TO VOTE.

YES.

YEAH.

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GREAT.

YES.

OKAY.

SORRY.

DID YOU DO ALL IN FAVOR? YES, YES I DID.

AND, UH, OKAY.

AGENDA, AGENDA, AGENDA.

UH, DO WE HAVE A HANDOUT ON THE, ON THE SUMMARY? OKAY.

UH, THIS IS IT, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

OKAY.

RECOMMEND THE REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE CURRENT PROCESS.

FINAL ONE PAGE SUMMARY OF THE FINAL GRANT.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO DISCUSS? SO MOVED.

OKAY.

I GET SECOND.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, I, I'D SAY I, I WOULD SAY RIGHT AWAY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE FINANCIAL DATA ON HOW THE MONEY WAS ACTUALLY SPENT, IF IT WAS IN ACCORD WITH THE APPLICATION.

YEAH.

'CAUSE WE, THEY ALREADY DID THE APPLICATION, SO WE DON'T EVEN NEED NUMBER ONE.

YEAH.

AND, UH, WE JUST NEED SPECIFICS ON HOW THE GRANT FUNDS WERE USED.

RIGHT.

AND, AND THE PEOPLE OUTCOME.

RIGHT.

EXACTLY.

IMPACT, DESCRIBE IMPACT ON THE HOMELESS.

YEAH.

DESCRIBE HOW THEY IMPACTED HOMELESSNESS IN LONG BEACH.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

THEY SHOULD ALWAYS HAS THAT AS A, JUST AS A BUSINESS PERSON, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT JUST TO MM-HMM .

OKAY.

SO WITH THOSE TWO CHANGES, UH, CAN I HAVE A MOTION? NO, WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION.

I DO HAVE A MOTION.

WE JUST NEED TO DO THE EDITS ON THIS, ON THIS PAGE HERE.

YEAH.

SO I'LL DO EDITS AND THEN I CAN SEND IT OUT TO YOU GUYS TO REVIEW.

WELL, WE HAVE, WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION.

AND DO YOU, YOU HAVE FINANCIAL ONE HERE? WELL, NUMBER TWO SAYS, SPECIFY THE PURPOSE OF THE GRANT.

WHY? MM-HMM .

OKAY.

OKAY.

I, WELL, YEAH.

SO SEE, THEY DIDN'T DO THE BREAKDOWN OF HOW THE FUNDS WERE USED.

USED AND YEAH.

WELL, AND IT, IT, IT, I'M, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT JUST USING THE WORD BREAKDOWN MM-HMM .

IS NOT DOING IT.

MM-HMM .

THAT YOU'VE GOT TO BE REAL SPECIFIC AND SAY THAT YOU NEED TO QUANTIFY MM-HMM .

THE TOTAL OF THE PEOPLE YOU'VE WORKED WITH, YOU NEED TO QUANTIFY HOW MANY RECEIVED WHICH KIND OF SUPPORT SERVICES.

RIGHT.

UM, AND THEN THE COST THAT WAS RELATED FOR EACH OF THOSE.

MM-HMM .

EACH ACTUALLY, GOOD POINT.

BECAUSE NOW JENNIFER, THESE WERE ALL DONE ON REIMBURSEMENT.

THE ACTUAL SPENDING OF THE FUNDS GROUP COME FROM THE CITY'S RECORDS OF WHAT WAS DISPERSED TO THAT GRANT.

CAN WE GET A RECORD OF WHAT FUNDS WERE DISPERSED TO THIS GRANT? THEY ARE DISPERSED.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN? SORRY.

IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE HAVE GRANT 10,000 FOR HOUSING VOUCHERS, SOMEBODY AT SOME POINT, THE PERSON HAS TO COME BACK TO THE CITY AND ASK FOR THE MONEY.

RIGHT.

THEY SEND THE INVOICES OVER TO ME.

AND SO WE KNOW THEN AT THAT POINT, THAT'S WHAT THE MONEY WAS DISPERSED FOR.

SO.

CORRECT.

THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE GRANT.

THE REPORT TOO WOULD BE THE CITY AS TO HOW THE MONEY WAS ACTUALLY DISPERSED TO THIS INDIVIDUAL OR ORGANIZATION.

DO THEIR INVOICES HAVE THAT LEVEL OF DE DETAIL OR DO THEY JUST SAY, UH, COLONIAL MOTEL $5,000? YEAH.

YEAH.

, IT'LL HAVE A, THE CLIENT NAME AND SOMETIMES THEIR HMIS NUMBER, IF THEY'RE ON HMIS MM-HMM .

OR A DIFFERENT SYSTEM.

BUT THAT'S, THERE'S NO OTHER FURTHER DETAILS.

SO IT DOESN'T SAY NUMBER OF NIGHTS.

UM, OR IT DOES SAY NUMBER OF NIGHTS.

UM, AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S IT.

THERE, THERE HAS TO BE SOME RECORDS SOMEPLACE MM-HMM .

THAT THE MONEY WAS GIVEN OUT SPECIFICALLY FOR SOMETHING.

WELL, SOMEBODY HAS TO KEEP TRACK.

YEAH.

BUT YOU CAN, YOU CAN ASK FOR THAT IN THIS STATEMENT HERE.

YEAH.

WELL, AND TO ME, LIKE WE SAID, THE, THE REASON I SEE THAT THIS KIND OF INFORMATION IS HELPFUL IS THAT AGAIN, THE HSAC IS TRYING TO HELP GENERATE POLICY IDEAS.

RIGHT? YEAH.

AND IF WE CAN SEE MORE DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT EACH OF THE GROUPS IS DOING MM-HMM .

THEN, YOU KNOW, WE MAY SEE A PATTERN THAT, OH, WOW, THE DISABLED RESOURCE CENTER

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HAD THE SAME EXPERIENCE AS USIA OR THAT THEY HAD DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES AND WHAT THIS ORGANIZATION ACTUALLY IS ABLE TO HELP OUT MAYBE A HUNDRED PEOPLE THAT, COMPARED TO THOSE ORGANIZATIONS HELPING 17 FAMILIES, I DON'T KNOW.

AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, JUST GIVES AN IDEA OF HOW, WHO, YOU KNOW, EFFICIENCY AND KIND OF HOW WE CAN REPEAT.

SO TO ME IT'S RIGHT.

IT'S BEING EFFECTIVE AND IT'S COMING UP WITH POLICY IDEAS.

AND THE, THE FEEDBACK, THE REPORTS WE'RE GETTING ARE THE TWO TOO GENERAL FOR US TO BE ABLE TO, I THINK WHAT IT WAS IS WE WERE THEY'RE UTILIZING IT AS A PIECE TO THEIR LARGER PUZZLE.

YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

LIKE THEY WERE JUST, THEY HAVE A BUDGET THAT THEY NEED TO GET IN, IN DONATION BRANDS YEAH.

TO MEET WHAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY, RIGHT.

BECAUSE WHAT WE DIDN'T DISCUSS EARLIER IS LIKE THE DISABLED RESOURCE CENTER, THEY HAVE A $2 MILLION BUDGET.

SO THIS IS NOT EVEN A DRAW.

IT'S TIMING.

SO THEY'RE NOT KEEPING TRACK OF IT AS WELL AS WHAT YOU THINK THEY SHOULD.

RIGHT.

AND SAME WITH THE, UM, THIS FEET OTHER ONE.

IT'S, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT LITTLE FEET, BUT THEY'RE URBAN USA, IT'S, I WANNA SAY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.

SO, YOU KNOW, SHE'S GOT OTHER, A LOT OF THINGS FEEDING HER.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, YEAH.

WE'RE NOT, AND AGAIN, I MEAN, THERE'S, AND EVEN RIGHT HERE DOESN'T, THERE'S NO LESSON IT DOESN'T TALK ABOUT IMMEDIATELY HELPING WITH, WITH HOMELESSNESS.

NO.

RIGHT.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S THINGS THAT WE'VE ALWAYS SAID.

IT'S ALWAYS COME UP WITH FOOD.

WELL, OBVIOUSLY WITH THOSE ORGAN, BOTH THOSE ORGANIZATIONS, THEY, I KNOW FOR A FACT THEY DON'T JUST TARGET HOMELESSNESS.

'CAUSE THEY, THEY LIKE TO HELP PEOPLE PREVENT HOME.

YES, EXACTLY.

AND IT'S THE WORKING POOR.

RIGHT.

THAT'S, THAT'S SORT OF, AND THAT'S A GOOD CAUSE FOR SURE.

EXACTLY.

YES.

I AGREE.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS ALSO TO ME THAT IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT COULD BE SAID SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PERSON WORKING ON THE HOMELESS SERVICES WAS NOT WHO DID THE BUDGET, THE BUDGET GOT DONE BY THE ACCOUNTANT.

AND SO, LIKE YOU SAID, STEVEN, I MEAN, THIS IS A BUDGET THAT THEY SEND OUT TO NUMEROUS PLACES, WHICH AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THAT'S THE REALITY.

BUT SOMEHOW WE, I THINK DESERVED TO GET AT LEAST ACTUALLY WE DID A GOOD JOB ON HERE BECAUSE IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, IT SAYS RESULTS AND IMPACT INCLUDE BOTH QUANTITATIVE AND QUALITATIVE DATA TO DE DEMONSTRATE THE IMPACT OF THE GRANT.

CORRECT.

BUT THEN WE HAVE TO, I'M HAVING, AS A FORMER CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER OF A BANK, I AM HAVING DIFFICULTY UNDERSTANDING.

I BET YOU'RE CAN'T COME UP WITH DETAIL.

YES, SIR.

BECAUSE I ALWAYS HAD TO COME UP WITH DETAIL, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

IT'S IN THERE.

YOU JUST HAVE TO KNOW WHERE TO GO LOOK FOR IT.

WELL, IS IT, SO HERE'S A QUESTION.

IS OUR PRACTICE, OUR PROCESS THAT WHEN THE ORGANIZATION IS READY TO SEND IN ITS FINAL REQUEST FOR EXPENDITURES? YES.

IT, BEFORE THAT MONEY GETS RELEASED, THEY HAVE SUBMIT THE REPORT.

YES.

BUT THEN WE SHOULD THEN, GEE, YOU GUYS, WE REALLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO SAY, NO, THAT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT RELEASING THAT LAST CHECK BECAUSE YOU DID NOT THAT TO ME, THAT WOULD NOT BE AN UNREASONABLE REQUEST.

THAT WOULD BE A VERY REASONABLE REQUEST.

YOU WANT TO FINAL DISBURSEMENT? TELL US HOW YOU SPENT THE REST OF THE WHAT.

YEAH.

IT SAYS, ALL GRANTEES MUST SUBMIT A ONE PAGE SUMMARY DETAILING THE IMPACTS AND OUTCOMES OF THE AWARDED GRANT.

AND MAYBE IF WE COULD, IF WE CAN ADD ON HOMELESSNESS AND LANGUAGE, IF YOU READ NEWSPAPERS, THAT'S THE BIGGEST QUESTION THAT'S COMING UP ABOUT HOMELESSNESS.

RIGHT THERE.

WHERE DO THE MONEY GO? THEY WANT SPECIFIC NUMBERS.

WHERE DID THE MONEY GO? .

YEAH.

WHERE'D IT GO? SO, OKAY.

WE HAD, WE HAVE A MOTION TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES AND WE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE.

.

YEAH.

JENNIFER KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

YES.

AYE.

OKAY.

UH, MAKE CURRENT FUNDS APPLICATION AND MAKE EDITS WHERE NEEDED.

UH, SO MOVED.

I'LL SECOND IT.

I HAVE A SECOND.

MM-HMM .

MOVE TO SECOND IT.

OKAY.

LET'S DISCUSS.

I HAVE A QUICK THOUGHT ON THIS.

IS THAT JUST WHILE WE'RE TALKING TO ONE OF THEM ON THAT IN LINE WITH NEIL THAT'S BEEN MENTIONING, COULD WE, IT WOULD BE NICE TO GET SUGGESTIONS FOR THINGS TO DO FOR THE HOMELESS.

AND ONE OF MY PET THINGS, WHICH YOU KNOW ABOUT IS I, I LOOK AT OUR SHELTERS AND I LOOK AT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE IN THE SHELTERS EVERY NIGHT.

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AND WE DON'T USE THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE EDUCATION AND INFORMATION TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS.

SO WE MIGHT EVEN SUGGEST THAT WE WOULD, THE FUND WOULD LOOK KINDLY ON ANYBODY THAT WOULD TALK ABOUT GRANTS TO PROVIDE JOB DEVELOPMENTS.

YEAH.

WORKSHOPS, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

YEAH.

WORKSHOPS IN THE SHELTERS.

YES.

THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

AND, UH, WE WOULD BE GAINING SOMETHING BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, SO OFTEN, AGAIN, HAVING WORKED IT, SOMETIMES IT'S SO SIMPLE THAT THE PERSON JUST DOESN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S NOT WORKING FOR, AND THEY JUST NEED A LITTLE TYPE A IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

AND THOSE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO.

THAT'S A GREAT PROGRAM.

RIGHT NOW, THEY, UH, ONE I'VE WORKED WITH ANOTHER ORGANIZATION, FUNCTIONAL, UH, IMAGERY THERAPY TO TEACH PEOPLE TO MAKE BETTER DECISIONS.

THERE'S A NEW ONE OUT THE ACTIVE, UH, ACT, WHICH IS DEALING WITH RECOVERY AND ALL THOSE DIFFERENT APPROACH TO RECOVER MORE OF THAT A, A APPROACH, BUT A GOOD ONE.

AND THOSE ARE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE COULD BRING TO THE PROGRAMS. MAYBE ONLY TWO OR THREE PEOPLE WILL COME TO THEM.

BUT EVEN THAT HELPS.

IT'S STILL WORTHWHILE.

SO I THINK MAYBE SOMETHING IN THAT LINE THAT WE SAY THAT WE ALL LOOK KINDLY ON APPLICATIONS THAT WOULD PROVIDE EDU LIVING SKILLS EDUCATION.

YEAH.

LIFE SKILLS WORKSHOPS AND OTHER, OTHER VALUABLE, UM RIGHT, RIGHT.

NOT JUST TO PASS OUT FOOD OR TO THINGS TO ACTUALLY TRY TO CHANGE PEOPLE'S LIVES.

YEAH.

SO INSTEAD OF SAYING SHELTER SERVICES, MAYBE WE COULD DO THAT.

UM, LIFE SKILLS.

YEAH.

WELL, THEY'RE REALLY SOCIAL SERVICES.

THAT'S REALLY KIND OF WHAT AND OTHER SERVICES AT SHELTERS.

YEAH.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

UM, DOES IT MAKE SENSE IN THE SAME WAY TO SAY, SORRY, YOU SAID LIFE SKILLS AND, AND OTHER SERVICES AT SHELTERS.

YEAH.

SPECIFICALLY CITY SHELTERS.

YEAH.

WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO ALSO ADD THAT WE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN APPLICATIONS WHERE THERE'S THE, THE INTENT IS TO PROVIDE SHOWERS AND OTHER KINDS OF SERVICES.

SANITATION, SANITATION SERVICES.

MM-HMM .

MM-HMM .

TO SUPPORT THE DIGNITY.

YEAH.

CERTIFIED PEER SPECIALISTS THERE.

SANITATION, CERTIFIED PEER SPECIALIST.

THEY CAN COVER A LOT OF THAT.

UHHUH.

WELL, AND THAT WOULD BE, WELL, THOSE, THE PEOPLE AT PATH ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE WELL, PATH IS GREAT PATH.

THEY, THEY'RE, I MEAN, AGENCY AROUND, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THAT AT THE SHELTERS.

I, I HAVEN'T VISITED MY, UNFORTUNATELY, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AS MUCH AS IT SHOULD.

I KNOW.

BECAUSE PEOPLE TELL ME, WHAT WAS THE PHRASE? AMBULANCE CERTIFIED, CERTIFIED SPECIALIST CARE SPECIALISTS.

AND THOSE ARE PEOPLE WITH LIVE EXPERIENCES AS WELL.

BUT PERHAPS IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE GOING INTO THE SHELTERS WITH JUST THAT PURPOSE IN MIND MM-HMM .

MM-HMM .

TO DELIVER LIFE SKILLS TRAINING.

YES.

RIGHT.

NOT INVOLVED THE OPERATION OF THE SHELTER, BUT JUST PROVIDE.

BUT, SO HERE, BUT HERE'S THE, AGAIN, NOW IT SEEMS TO ME WE'RE ACTUALLY ALERTING FOLKS OUT THERE THAT THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT KINDS OF APPROACHES THAT INTEREST US.

ONE OF 'EM IS THE LIFE SKILLS LINKED TO THE SHELTERS.

THE SECOND IS THE SANITATION.

MM-HMM .

WITH DIGNITY.

MM-HMM .

AND THE THIRD IS PROGRAMS THAT UTILIZE CERTIFIED PEER SPECIALISTS.

AND THAT, I WANNA SAY THAT IS PART OF PATH'S, UM, RESPONSIBILITY IN, IN RUNNING THE SHELTERS.

THEY GET A HECK OF A LOT OF MONEY TO TRY TO HELP YEAH.

TO HELP PEOPLE MOVE FORWARD.

AND THAT THEY, THEY HAVE THAT.

WHEN DO THOSE PEOPLE GO BY? BECAUSE I ALWAYS JUST SEE THE SECURITY DO WELL, DURING THE DAYS WHEN THE STAFF IS THERE.

YEAH.

THEY KEEP DAYTIME HOURS AND NOT WEEKENDS OR NIGHTS.

I, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT IT'S, IT'S HIT AND MISS BECAUSE FROM WHAT I CAN TELL, IT'S IF, IF YOU AS A SHELTER RESIDENT SEEK THEM ENOUGH TIMES, THEN THEY, THEY WILL HELP YOU.

BUT IT'S NOT DONE ON, YOU KNOW, ON AN EVEN.

EXACTLY.

WELL, JENNIFER BEING THE DIRECTOR, I'M SURE I'LL WORK WITH THEM.

AND THEN THEY HAVE HORRIBLE PROBLEMS WITH PROJECT KEY THAT PEOPLE WERE THERE FOR TWO YEARS.

NEVER CASE MANAGER, NEVER GOT A BASH.

AND THEY USED ALL THE MONEY STILL THERE, TORE AND ALL THEM OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

I MEAN, YOU HAVE PEOPLE THERE AND YOU NEED A STRONG, SKILLED, EXTENSIVE

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CASE MANAGER.

YEAH.

THAT KNOWS THE CITY.

IF YOU ARE IN PATH IN LONG BEACH, YOU NEED TO KNOW EVERY AGENCY HERE TO WILMINGTON TO DO THAT.

AND YOU NEED TO MEET WITH THE PEOPLE AT LEAST TWICE A WEEK.

YEAH.

IT'S HARD BECAUSE, UM, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE RIGHT NOW, SOME OF THE PEOPLE I KNOW WHO ARE STILL IN THE BEST WESTERN, THEY'VE BEEN THERE SINCE THE END OF THE PANDEMIC.

RIGHT.

SOME OF THEM DON'T HAVE PAPERS MM-HMM .

AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC.

NOT THAT WAS THE PANDEMIC'S OVER.

RIGHT.

BUT THEY HAVE NOWHERE TO GO.

AND THEY DON'T HAVE THAT.

THE CITY'S WELL, I THINK THE CASE MANAGEMENT COULD HAVE HELPED OUT WITH THAT.

RIGHT.

BUT NOW THE WINDOW IS SHUT, SO THEY CAN'T, AND SO IT, IT'S, IT'S A HARD, IT'S HARD.

AND IT'S INDIVIDUAL BY INDIVIDUAL.

AND UNFORTUNATELY WITH SOME OF THESE OPERATORS, AS GOOD AS THEY'RE, THEY ARE WELL-INTENTIONED.

THEIR STAFFING CHANGES OFTEN.

BIG TURNOVER, OFTEN, IF THEY'RE NOT MENTION AT LEAST TWO, EIGHT, AND IT'S A SOFT, WHAT IS IT CALLED? A WARM HANDOFF.

THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN WHEN THE STAFF LEAVES, THAT STAFF LEFT.

THEY TAKE ALL THE ATION, THE PATH IS VERY STRICT ON THEIR INTERVIEW AND THE PEOPLE THAT THEY HIRE.

IN MY EXPERIENCES, I'VE WORKED WITH THE, I DON'T KNOW, AND I KNOW JENNIFER, IF SHE'S STILL THE DIRECTOR THERE, THEY DON'T PLAY.

THEY'RE ALL, IF THEY MEET WITH THE CASE MANAGER, THEY RUN A TIGHT SHIFT.

BUT LET'S JUST SEE, I WISH THEM THE BEST.

RIGHT.

BUT IF YOU'RE NOT PAYING THESE PEOPLE 28 TO $35 AN HOUR AND YOU PAY 'EM $21, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA LEAVE.

UH, AND THEN THE CLIENT IS STILL LEFT WITHOUT DOCUMENTS.

BUT THE FIRST THING ANY CASE MANAGER SHOULD, SHOULD DO IS GET THE DOCUMENT READY.

THAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT SHE DID.

YEAH.

WELL, ONE THING I FOUND PARTICULARLY IN, RAN THE BOB IN SKI ROW FOR A WHILE LATER.

AND I FOUND THAT THEY, OUR STAFF CONSIDERED THEMSELVES AS SECURITY MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

YEAH.

AND TO OVERCOME THAT.

AND, UH, WHEN WE OPENED A NEW ONE, UH, WE HAD PRESSURE FROM LASSO FOR SECURITY.

BUT WHAT I DID, I DESIGNATED A CERTAIN NUMBER OF THE STAFF AS SECURITY, BUT I DIDN'T TELL THE STAFF THEY WERE DESIGNATED AS SECURITY.

I SAID, YOU ARE ALL HERE AS CASE MANAGERS.

GOTCHA.

TO WORK WITH PEOPLE MM-HMM .

AND IT HELPED IN THAT WAY THAT, UH, IT JUST, HUMAN NATURE SEEMS TO BE DIRECTED IN THAT WAY.

THAT'S RIGHT.

PEOPLE, WHEN THEY'RE GET IN CHARGE OF SOMETHING, THEY TURN INTO SECURITY PEOPLE.

.

I GOTCHA.

AND, UH, AND I, I, AS I SAY, I WATCHED THAT HAPPEN OVER AND OVER AGAIN IN THE SHELTERS.

IT WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS.

IT WAS JUST DIFFICULT TO CHANGE.

'CAUSE YOU CHANGING HUMAN NATURE.

DO WE ALSO WANT TO SUGGEST THAT WE ARE VERY INTERESTED IN FUNDING WORK THAT PROVIDES SERVICES, WEEKENDS, EVENINGS, AND AT NIGHT? WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? YEAH.

WHY? THAT WE ARE INTERESTED IN GROUPS SUBMITTING APPLICATIONS FOR PROGRAMS THAT FUNCTION ON WEEKENDS IN THE EVENING AND OVERNIGHT.

YEAH.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING.

THAT'S, THERE'S AIN'T NOTHING OUT THERE THEN.

AND MAYBE ONE OF THESE GROUPS MM-HMM .

WILL PICK UP ON THAT.

THEY ARE SITTING IN THE SHELTERS.

THERE'S NOT MUCH TO DO.

WHAT PLACES ARE THEY COMING? UM, THEY HAVE ALL THE SHELTERS RIGHT NOW, EXCEPT FOR THE YOUTH SHELTER.

ANAHEIM 7 0 2 A BC.

THE BEST WESTERN.

YEAH.

OH, AND THEN THE, AND THE LUXURY IN THINKING OF, I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAS A NEW NAME YET.

SO HOW DO WE GET US INTO A, YEAH, IT'S BEEN OPEN SINCE THE END OF LAST YEAR ON LONG BEACH BOULEVARD AND THE SEVEN 10 FREEWAY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO THEY HAVE ALL THOSE PROPERTIES.

THAT'S QUITE A BIT.

UM, OKAY, SO HERE'S THE THING I WANTED TO READ.

UM, IT SAYS THAT THE MAYOR'S FUND FOR HOMELESSNESS, OH, THE MAYOR'S FUND FOR HOMELESSNESS ACTION PROVIDES SMALL GRANTS TO ORGANIZATIONS IN LONG BEACH THAT ADDRESS SIGNIFICANT SERVICE DELIVERY NEEDS THAT ARE NOT COVERED BY EXISTING FUNDING AND ARE NOT CONSIDERED EMERGENCY NEEDS.

MM-HMM .

SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS WANNA REWORD THAT TO JUST SAY, UM, TO ADDRESS, UM, SIGNIFICANT SERVICE DELIVERY NEEDS THAT WOULD IMPROVE HOMELESSNESS ON THE STREETS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I DON'T KNOW.

WELL, I THINK WE COULD, IT'S SO WORDY THE WAY IT IS.

MAY MAYBE SAY THAT TO SOUND OF ENCOURAG.

WE LOOK, WE WILL LOOK WITH FAVOR ON GRANT REQUESTS THAT DELIVER LIFE SKILLS.

YEAH.

THAT WE CAN LIST RIGHT HERE.

RIGHT? YEAH.

IT SAYS, IT SAYS, UM,

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DONATIONS TO THE FUND COULD SUPPORT A VARIETY OF CRITICAL NEEDS, INCLUDING LIFE SKILLS AND OTHER SERVICES AT CITY SHELTERS.

WELL, THAT'S FOR DONATIONS.

BUT I THINK NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

I DON'T KNOW WHY IT EVEN SAYS THAT.

OH, OKAY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

IT SHOULD JUST SAY THIS FUND.

YEAH.

THIS FUND, THIS FUND COULD SUPPORT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

JUST TURN THAT.

UM, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US ACTUALLY, TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, THAT WOULD PROBABLY HELP IN OUR FUNDRAISING TOO.

BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE WOULD LOOK MORE IN FAVOR ON YEAH.

CONTRIBUTING MONEY TO SOMETHING IS GOING TO HELP PEOPLE GET OUT OF HOMELESSNESS.

MM-HMM .

YEAH.

I MEAN THAT, THAT WAS, I THINK WHAT LEANNA WAS TRYING TO SAY ABOUT THE SHOES.

AS MUCH AS WE APPRECIATE CHILDREN HAVING SHOES, AND WE DO APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT GONNA FIX THEIR HOUSING SITUATION.

NO.

IT'S BARELY A BANDAID.

I KNOW.

AND SO I KNOW, UM, JENNIFER, WOULD IT BE EASIEST IF, IF WE JUST DO MINOR EDITS AND SEND IT TO YOU TOMORROW? YEAH.

AND THEN, YEAH.

YEAH.

DID YOU ALSO WANNA ADD, UH, WHERE IT SAYS ALL APPROVED ALLOCATIONS ARE FOR SINGLE USE, ONLY RECURRING FUNDING FOR THE SAME OR SIMILAR PROGRAMS WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED? YEAH.

'CAUSE TO ME, RECURRING FUNDINGS MEANS THAT THEY CAN ASK FOR IT YEAR AFTER YEAR, WHICH IS WHAT THE , WHICH IS WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING.

.

YEAH.

AND, AND IT ALSO SAID, NOT CONSIDERED EMERGENCY FUNDS, BUT ONE OF 'EM, THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.

IT'S BASICALLY ON RIGHT.

AN ABSOLUTE NEED.

IT'S KIND OF AN EMERGENCY SITUATION.

SO IT'S INDIVIDUAL EMERGENCIES.

YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

YEAH.

SO JUST SENT, YOU CAN SEND ME THOSE.

I THINK WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA LEAST MAKE AN ATTEMPT TO NOT GET PEOPLE BACK ON THE STREET.

MM-HMM .

MM-HMM .

YEAH.

BASICALLY WHEN I CAME.

AND WE DO NEED A STATEMENT IN THERE THAT SAYS, UM, THE FUNDS ARE NOT TO BE USED FOR OPERATIONAL AND ONGOING COSTS.

I BELIEVE THERE IS, BECAUSE I COULDN'T FIND THAT BECAUSE WE GOT A COUPLE OF SALARIES.

YES, I KNOW.

AND WE'VE HAD THAT BEFORE.

YEAH.

WE'VE USED THAT OVER WE OKAY.

WITH THOSE CHANGES THAT JULIE HAS SUGGESTED.

WELL, NO, YOU HAVE TO SEND THEM TO JENNIFER.

YEAH.

OKAY.

MM-HMM.

DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH.

IF SOMEBODY WAS TRYING TO, YEAH, LIKE IF YOU HAVE, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO BE CASE MANAGED.

SO THAT, I GUESS THAT PERSONNEL CAN'T BE PART OF THE REQUEST, RIGHT? NO.

IT, NO.

NO.

OKAY.

IT HAS TO BE PART OF A PROJECT.

RIGHT.

A PILOT PROJECT.

GOT IT.

OR SHORT TERM PROJECT.

BUT IT CAN'T BE JUST LIKE THAT HELP PAY FOR THEIR, THEIR MANAGEMENT.

THAT PERSON IS GONNA BE WORKING FOR THEM NO MATTER WHAT DISABLED.

RIGHT.

AND THEY JUST WANTED TO HAVE US COVER SOME OF HER SALARY.

THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

MONTHS.

YEAH.

THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

AND SO, BUT IF IT'S A PROGRAM THAT ADDRESSES SOMETHING WORTHWHILE, OF COURSE WE JUST LIKE THE SECURITY GUARD.

RIGHT.

WE'RE GONNA PAY FOR THE SECURITY GUARD.

IT'S PART OF THE PROGRAM.

IT'S NOT PART OF THEIR ONGOING OPERATIONS.

YEAH.

SO IT'S A, IT WOULD BE A PERSON THAT WAS A SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT.

YEAH.

YES, OF COURSE.

YEAH.

BUT NOT ONGOING OPERATIONS.

YEAH.

OR EXISTING.

NOT EXISTING OR ONGOING.

OKAY.

ARE WE THERE? YEAH.

UM, NO.

OKAY.

AS PROPOSED.

ALL IN FAVOR.

A.

A, OKAY.

YES.

OKAY.

MAKE IT, WE'VE DONE THAT.

UH, REVIEW RECOMMENDED AND FILE DISCUSSION IN MAYOR'S FUND, FUNDRAISING STRATEGIES, FILE.

WAS THAT GIRL GONNA COME? OR THE YOUNG LADY? UM, ERIN.

EMILY.

EMILY.

YEAH.

EMILY.

NOT YET.

SHE, I MEAN, IT'S STILL IN THE WORKS, BUT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH, UH, DEPARTMENT CHANGES IN THEIR OWN DEPARTMENT.

SO I'M WAITING TO SEE WHO'S GONNA BE TAKING OVER, LIKE SOME OF THE STUFF THAT SHE'S HANDING OFF.

UM, AND THEN WE CAN SET THAT UP.

BUT IN REGARDS TO THE, YOU HAVE A COPY OF IT TO THE, UH, INSERT.

YES.

THE INSERT.

IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WOULD WANT TO TAKE, SO THAT ONE WAS CREATED BY KIMBERLY LEWIS, IF YOU REMEMBER, TWO YEARS AGO.

YEAH.

IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO TAKE A SHOT AT A, AT ADDING OR TAKING OFF ANYTHING THAT'S IN THE INSERT.

MM-HMM .

I'M SORRY, I LOST THAT ONE.

YEAH.

BECAUSE I, UM, I FEEL LIKE THIS YEAR ESPECIALLY THAT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE SAID THAT ACCESS, THAT THAT FEDERAL FUNDS HAVE DISAPPEARED AND THAT THERE

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IS NO, WELL, IT HASN'T DISAPPEARED.

IT'S JUST THE FEDERAL PRIORITY HAS CHANGED FROM OKAY.

PERMANENT HOUSING TO, UH, IMMEDIATE HOUSING.

OKAY.

BUT IT ALSO, YEAH.

BUT IT ALSO HAS STREAMS. I MEAN, IF WE SAY THAT WE WANT TO PROVIDE CANDIDATES, YEAH.

I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT GONNA GIVE IT TO US MM-HMM .

AND SO, I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, SOMEHOW WE NEED TO SAY THAT FEDERAL MONEY IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE TO US, TO LONG BEACH.

AND THAT MAKES IT EVEN MORE IMPORTANT FOR US TO STEP UP AND CONTRIBUTE SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO OUR BEST OF OUR ABILITY.

MM-HMM .

I MEAN, THE BEAUTY OF THIS FUND IS TO OFFER FLEXIBILITY FOR, UM, PILOT PROJECTS, FOR OTHER GAP FUNDING NEEDS.

AND THAT TO ME, THAT, THAT THIS IS NOW A CRITICAL SITUATION 'CAUSE OF MONEY, THE GAP FUNDING AND, UM, WHAT DID YOU SAY? MODEL OF THE PILOT.

PILOT PILOT.

IF THOSE ARE THREE KEY WORDS, IN MY OPINION, NO MONEY PILOT GAP, THAT IF WE JUST IN THE BLANK, THERE'S A SENTENCE.

EACH OF THOSE WORKS, FEDERAL RESTRICTIONS.

AND WE STILL HAVE OUR ACCESS TO COUNTY FUNDS.

WE STILL HAVE ACCESS TO FEDERAL FUNDS.

IT'S JUST THEY HAVE TO BE ALLOCATED DIFFERENTLY.

AND THE PROJECTS, UM, THE PROJECTS HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN, UM, OUTCOMES.

YOU KNOW, IT'S A, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THAT COC LIST, THAT I'M NOT SURE IS IT GONNA COME BACK? IS JOSEPH COMING BACK WITH THE COC LIST FOR THE NEXT MEETING? MM.

SINCE IT'S IN FLUX.

BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE, BECAUSE THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THE COC, WHEN I LOOK AT IT, IT'S LIKE THE SAME OLD, SAME OLD.

THEY, IT JUST TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS DOING, YOU KNOW, THE STATUS QUO.

AND THAT, THAT DOES HAVE TO CHANGE.

UM, I'M NOT SAYING CHANGE IT THE WAY THE PEOPLE IN THE WHITE HOUSE WANNA DO IT.

RIGHT.

BUT THERE, THERE HAS TO BE BETTER OUTCOMES RIGHT.

FROM THE TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

ABSOLUTELY.

YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T JUST KEEP GOING.

AND SO, UH, OKAY.

SO THAT, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE FOURTH PHRASE IS THAT THE FUND IS, HAS THE FLEXIBILITY MM-HMM .

TO WORK ON PILOT MM-HMM .

TO FUND WHAT OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS.

RIGHT.

BETTER OUTCOMES FOR LONG BEACH.

WELL, OVER THE YEARS OF WATCHING HOME, WORKING WITH HOMELESS, THE THING THAT I HAVE NOTICED DISAPPEAR, MANY OF THE PROGRAMS WE DO TODAY IS THE WORD WORK.

YEAH.

WE HAVE PRETTY MUCH ELIMINATED THE IDEA THAT THE REAL SOLUTION, THE BEST SOLUTION FOR NOT EVERYBODY, BUT FOR MOST PEOPLE, IS TO GET A JOB, BECOME SO SUPPORTING MM-HMM .

AND HAVE A PURPOSE.

I MEAN THAT ESSENTIALLY ITS PURPOSEFUL LIFE.

AND WE'VE SORT OF ELIMINATED THAT CONCEPT MM-HMM.

FROM THE WHOLE IDEA OF HOMELESSNESS.

MM-HMM .

THAT IS WHY I DON'T LIKE HOUSING FIRST.

I BELIEVE WE SHOULD GET PEOPLE INTO HOUSING, BUT I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PAY THE RENT TO SIT IN THAT HOUSING THE REST OF YOUR LIFE DOING NOTHING.

YOU KNOW? I MEAN, THAT'S NOT HEALTHY OR FOOD.

I KNOW.

BUT THAT YOU, YOU'RE CORRECT.

'CAUSE THE MESSAGE WAS THAT ALL YOU NEED TO DO TO GET OFF THE STREETS IS SECURE A HOUSING VOUCHER.

AND I HAD PEOPLE IN THEIR TWENTIES AND THIRTIES WITH KIDS.

THAT'S ALL THEY WANTED.

AND THAT'S ALL THEY, THAT'S IT WOULD LOOK AT.

AND THEY, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE SO ABLE BODIED, THEY JUST COULDN'T SEE ANYTHING ELSE AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO SUSTAIN THEMSELVES.

AND THAT'S SO SAD.

IT'S, YES.

IT'S THE HANDOUT MOM.

SO SAD.

SO WE HAVE TO GO TO THE, AND LEANNE KNOW, THEY REFER THAT HOMEBOY MODEL WHERE YOU TAKE 'EM AND YOU PICK 'EM UP AND YOU GIVE THEM WHAT THEY NEED FOR 18 MONTHS YEP.

AND REALLY FILL THEIR HEAD.

HEAD.

WELL, I HAD THE EXPERIENCE OF WORKING WITH THE FIRST 50 WAS A WONDERFUL WOMAN CALLED TANYA TON KNOW IF YOU KNEW HER.

AGAIN, SHE WAS IN LA MOSTLY, BUT SHE WAS THE ONE THAT BROUGHT HOUSING FIRST TO US.

BUT HER FIRST PROJECT, AND I WAS PART OF IT, MY ORGANIZATION, I SUPPLIED AN RM FROM OUR FUNDING TO HELP GET PEOPLE SERVICES IN IT.

BUT WHAT WE DID WAS WE GOT THE MOST PHYSICALLY FRAGILE PEOPLE OFF THE STREET.

AND THEY DID NEED ONE HOUSING FOR YES.

RIGHT.

'CAUSE THEY WEREN'T CAPABLE WORK.

OF COURSE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND IT ALSO, THEY HAD THE MOST DRIVE TO STAY IN THE PROPERTY IN THE HOUSE BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T LIVE ON THE STREET.

SO THAT WAS

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DECLARED A BIG SUCCESS.

AND WE WENT ON FROM THERE.

AND IT WASN'T, IT WAS A SUCCESS BECAUSE WE CHOSE THE CLIENTS VERY CAREFULLY.

RIGHT.

AND THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT.

AND THAT'S THE OTHER THING IS THAN WHAT THE FEDS ARE NOW SAYING.

RIGHT.

AND THAT IF, IF YOU'RE DISABLED, IF YOU KNOW THEY DON'T CARE, YOU, YOU DAMN WELL BETTER GO OUT.

YEAH.

YOU BURN SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, YEAH.

STEVEN KNOWS THERE'S OTHER WAYS TO HELP PEOPLE GET A ROOF OVER THEIR HEADS.

WE HAVE THE SHARED HOUSING MODEL, WE HAVE THE DORMITORY MODEL.

WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO, UM, EMPOWER THE COMMUNITY ITSELF.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS HOPING.

ABSOLUTELY.

WE WOULD GET SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE REQUESTING FUNDS, LIKE SOMEBODY WHO SAYS, HEY, FOR THIS AMOUNT I COULD HOUSE THIS MANY PEOPLE.

MM-HMM .

MM-HMM .

AND THESE ARE THE WAY IT WOULD BE SPENT.

MM-HMM .

AND THE, THIS IS THE WAY WE COULD, WHAT WE CAN DELIVER.

THIS IS AMOUNT MONEY AND THIS MATTER.

RIGHT.

WELL, AND AGAIN, TO ME, STEVEN, IF WE, IF WE DO THIS PILOT, YOU KNOW, USE SOME DIFFERENT LANGUAGE, THEN, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE CAN GO OUT AS HSAC, I THINK AS MEMBERS AND MAYBE GO TO SOME RESOURCE FAIRS OR SOMETHING YEAH.

AND TALK TO ORGANIZATIONS OH, EMILY THAT ARE OUT THERE.

EMILY, UM, EMILY, IS THAT HER NAME? EMILY? YEAH.

SHE WAS GONNA HELP US WITH SOCIAL MEDIA.

YEAH.

AND MAYBE A NEW WEBSITE, .

YEAH.

IT WAS GONNA BE GOOD.

I CAN, I CAN TOUCH BASE WITH HER AGAIN.

AND IF WE REDO THIS THING TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE JUST SHORTEN IT AND REALLY HIT ON WHAT THE DESIRES ARE, THEN IT COULD GO ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

ARE WE ALLOWED TO DO THAT? LIKE, IF AT SOME POINT SAID ABOUT POST, JUST POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

LIKE ON YOUR PERSONAL SOCIAL MEDIA.

YEAH.

YEP.

NOT REPRESENT THE CITY.

I MEAN, IF IT'S, I EVERYTHING IS PUBLIC.

I MEAN, I THINK YOU, EVERYTHING IS PUBLIC.

YOU COULD SHARE IT AS YEAH.

HOW IT'S SHARED ONLINE, LIKE ON OUR WEBSITE AND SAY THEY CHECK THE YEAH.

OKAY.

LIKE THAT WOULD BE FINE BECAUSE IT, I MEAN, IT PUBLIC IT'S ALL PUBLIC.

YEAH.

EVERYTHING IS PUBLIC.

THEY'RE NOT REPRESENTING.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

YEP.

MORE LIKE INFORMATIONAL.

YEAH.

YEAH.

YEAH.

WELL, AS I SAID, WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT RESPECT, WHEN YOU NEED TO DEAL WITH PEOPLE WITH DIGNITY AND TREATING SOMEBODY AS A PERSON THAT'S NEVER GOING TO WORK OR NEVER GONNA DO ANYTHING, IS NOT TREATING THEM WITH DIGNITY.

NO.

IT'S DEMEANING THEM.

THAT'S RIGHT.

YES.

AND YOU GIVE THEM THE FEELING THAT THEY ARE CAPABLE IS THE GREATEST ESCAPE YOU CAN DO.

THAT'S RIGHT.

I MEAN, MY BACKGROUND ALSO WAS IN SPECIAL ED, REGARDLESS OF KIDS' ABILITY.

YEAH.

UM, WE TRY TO GIVE THEM AN ASPECT OF HAVING A PURPOSE, WHETHER EVEN IF IT'S JUST, UH, MY SON IS GONNA BE ABLE TO GO DOWN AND GET HIS OWN WATER AT 3:00 AM RATHER THAN WAKE MOM AND DAD UP ADULT CHILDHOOD.

RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, SEVERE AUTISM.

IT'S, IT'S, HIS PURPOSE IS TO MAKE HIM A BETTER ROOMMATE FOR HIS FAMILY.

YEAH.

AND SO WE'LL WORK ON THAT ASPECT.

SO I DO THINK THAT REGARDLESS OF WHERE OUR PEOPLE AT, IF THEY'RE IN SHELTERS OR NOT, UM, THERE'S THINGS THAT THEY CAN DO ON A DAY, DAY BASIS, EVEN IF IT'S JUST VOLUNTEERING AT A CHURCH.

JUST THE FACT OF WAKING UP AND HAVING SOMETHING TO DO AND THAT PEOPLE NEED YOU.

YEAH.

UM, IT'S AMAZING.

THAT'S, IT'S AN AMAZING THING.

YEAH.

EVEN BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR GUESTS ARE, ARE VOLUNTEERS AND THEY, OH MY GOSH.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE SO EXCITED.

IT'S LIKE, JULIE, WHAT CAN I DO TODAY? AND IT'S LIKE, BUT, OR THE LAUNDRY THING I'S PEOPLE THAT THEIR JOB IS TO DO THIS IS, AND THIS, AND MY WIFE SHOWED UP THE FIRST TIME, LIKE, GET DOG.

YOU KNOW, IT'S THE, IT, LIKE YOU SAID, EVERYBODY NEEDS TO HAVE PURPOSE YEAH.

NO MATTER WHAT, WHO THEY ARE.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES FORGET THAT.

YEAH.

YOU USED THE WORD ASK US NOW.

WHICH IS INTERESTING.

'CAUSE THAT WAS THE ONE OF THE BIG CHANGES THEY MADE OF THE DRAWIN CENTER MM-HMM .

THAT WE TRAINED THE STAFF TO REFER TO THE PEOPLE THAT CAME TO US.

GUESTS.

GUESTS.

NOT AS A ONE, NOT PARTICIPANTS, NOT, SORRY.

OKAY.

WE HAVE, SORRY, WE HAVE GONE OVER TIME.

JIM, WE GOTTA CLOSE IT UP.

SO I'LL TOUCH BASE WITH, UM, EMILY AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.

YEAH.

UM, CAN WE JUST GET A FINAL VOTE ON THIS ONE? OH, RIGHT.

WE NEED TAKE A VOTE.

DID WE RECEIVED, WE NEED TO AND FILE THE DISCUSSION ON THE MAYOR'S FUND FUNDRAISING.

OH, I, YEAH.

I MISSED ONE MORE.

OKAY.

JUST SAY ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

THE, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE ON.

WELL, I THINK WITH WHAT WE'VE JUST TALKED ABOUT IN THE, IN DOING, CHANGING WHAT WE'RE DOING IS GOING TO HELP THE FUNDRAISING BECAUSE MORE FEELING TO EVERYBODY.

I DO THINK SOMEHOW, TO ME, THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET INTO THE

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BILLING FOR THE, UH, UTILITIES IS A GREAT GIFT.

MM-HMM .

YEP.

AND WE NEED TO UTILIZE IT BETTER.

SO SOMEHOW I HAVE TRIED FOR YEARS, BUT WE'VE NEVER MANAGED TO REALLY MAKE CONTACT AND TO GET CHAIR SUPPORT IN THAT.

UH, OKAY.

WELL, UH, WE'LL JUST GET A FINAL VOTE, JIM, REAL QUICK.

AND THEN JUST SAY, UM, ALL ALL IN FAVOR.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

ALL IN FAVOR? YEAH.

AYE, AYE.

AYE.

OKAY.

MOTION PASSES.

AND THEN WE DID HAVE CHAIR ELECTIONS.

UM, DO YOU GUYS WANNA TABLE THAT FOR NEXT MEETING? WELL, ANGELA HAS TO DECIDE IF SHE'S GONNA BE A MEMBER.

WELL, GUYS INVITED ME AS A GUEST HERE.

WELL, NOW YOU HAVE TO DECIDE IF YOU'RE GONNA GUEST.

YOU'RE GONE.

US GONE RESOURCE.

THIS IS OUR LAST MONTH.

HE AND I.

YEAH.

SERIOUS.

YES.

SO THEN IT WON'T BE KNOW, IT'LL JUST BE THREE, THE THREE OF YOU.

THAT, THAT'S ENOUGH.

THAT IS ENOUGH.

YOU JUST GONNA PUSH ME.

SO WOULD YOU BE NO, I WAS INTERESTED.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

NOW YOU JUST HAVE TO GET MORE.

GREAT.

AND THEN, SO I'LL ADD, YOU, ADD ANGELA.

SO DO YOU GUYS WANT TO DO A CHAIR, CHAIR ELECTION? WELL, TECHNICALLY WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IT THE NEXT ONE 'CAUSE SHE'S NOT, SO LET'S HOLD IT OVER.

AND WE ALSO MAY GET OUR BUDDY THAT SIT THAT SAID WAS SITTING NEXT TO, WHAT'S HER NAME? PAT? SHE SAID SHE MIGHT PAM, SHE JUST, SHE COULDN'T MAKE THIS MEETING.

OH, THAT'S RIGHT.

PAM.

OH, PAM.

SO PAM MIGHT BE INTERESTED.

I THINK SHE WAS INTERESTED IN THE POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE THOUGH.

OH, OKAY.

WELL, LET'S DOUBLE CHECK.

OH YEAH.

SEND AN EMAIL.

YEAH.

JACKIE, JACKIE MIGHT, AND JACKIE, I'LL SEND AN EMAIL TO THE WHOLE, THE HARD THING ABOUT JACKIE IS, IS IT'S TWO O'CLOCK.

IT'S GONNA BE TOUGH FOR HER BECAUSE SHE'S STARTING A NEW JOB.

OKAY.

I'LL SEND IT.

JUST ASK PAM BECAUSE I THINK SAID SHE HAD STARTED A NEW JOB.

SHE DID.

YEAH.

SO THREE.

WELL, JIM, THEIR RETIREMENT MONTH.

WELL, WE DO HAVE THE TWO NEW MEMBERS THAT ARE GONNA BE TOMORROW GOING UP TODAY.

NEW POLICIES.

ANY NEW MEMBER HAS TO JOIN COMMITTEE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

SO WE'RE ADJOURNING AT 3 59.

OKAY.

OKAY.