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WE WILL CALL TO ORDER THE MEETING OF THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE AT 5 4 40 6:00 PM 4:45 PM SORRY.
ON, UH, ON THURSDAY, JUNE 11TH, 2026.
UH, DIRECTOR, CAN YOU DO A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? YES.
UH, WE WILL NOW, UH, GO TO OUR, UM, UH, REGULAR AGENDA AND THE, UH, ITEM NUMBER ONE, RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE PARTS OF RECREATION COMMISSION.
GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE MEETING OF MARCH 12TH, 2026.
UH, CAN WE HAVE A VOTE? OH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? THE HEARING? NONE.
IS THERE ANY FROM THE PUBLIC? NO.
UH, THEN, UM, MAY WE HAVE A, A VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
NOW LET'S, UH, MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO.
A RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS FEE WAIVER REQUESTS RECEIVED BETWEEN MAY 14TH, 2026 AND JUNE 10TH, 2026.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED.
UH, DIRECTOR, DO WE HAVE A REPORT? WE DO.
AND I BELIEVE THIS IS OUR NEW COMMUNITY RECREATION SERVICES BUREAU MANAGER'S FIRST GOVERNANCE, UH, COMMITTEE MEETING.
AND SO, WELCOME ASHLEY GARETT, WHO WILL BE PROVIDING THE REPORT.
WE HAVE THREE FEE WAIVERS, UM, LISTED, UM, FOR THE AGENDA THIS MONTH, WE HAVE A NEW WAY OF LIFE, WHICH IS NOT A NEW GROUP, UM, PROPOSING TO HOST, UM, AN EVENT AUGUST 6TH, AN AWARD CEREMONY AT MCBRIDE PARK SOCIAL HALL.
A RECOVERY CELEBRATION, UH, REVENUE OR FEE AMOUNT WAIVED $181 AND 50 CENTS IN RENTAL AND PERMIT FEES, AND AN ESTIMATED ATTENDANCE OF 80 PEOPLE.
WE ALSO HAVE ROSE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, NOT A NEW GROUP.
UM, PROPOSING TO HOST, UH, A RETURNING EVENT, A SUMMER PICNIC JULY 19TH OF THIS YEAR AT ROSE PARK OPEN SPACE, A COMMUNITY EVENT.
AND, UM, THE ESTIMATED ATTENDANCE IS 150 PEOPLE, 290, PROPOSING $294 OF PERMIT AND SPECIAL EVENT FEES WAIVED.
OUR LAST, UM, OUR LAST, UH, FEE WAIVER REQUEST WAS WITH CLIMB CENTRAL LONG BEACH.
UM, ALSO NOT A NEW GROUP AND NOT A NEW EVENT.
UM, PROPOSING TO HOST, UH, ON NOVEMBER 23RD, A TURKEY GIVEAWAY IN MACARTHUR PARK IN THE OPEN SPACE.
IT'S A CHARITABLE GIVEAWAY TO THE COMMUNITY.
UH, $394 IN PERMIT AND SPECIAL EVENT FEES ARE PROPOSED TO BE WAIVED.
UM, AN ESTIMATED, UH, ATTENDANCE OF 225 PEOPLE IN TOTAL.
UM, WE WOULD BE WAIVING $869 AND 50 CENTS WITH THESE THREE FEE WAIVERS.
ARE THERE ANY, UH, COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? NO.
THAT IS A SLIM MONTH, ISN'T IT? MM-HMM
ALTHOUGH THEY'RE GOING DOWN TO NOVEMBER, WHICH IS AN ORGANIZED GROUP.
WE APPRECIATE THE EARLY NOTICES.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS FROM STAFF OR COMMENTS? ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE FROM COMMISSIONER IGA, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ORI SMITH.
ITEM NUMBER THREE, A RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE A FILE OF UPDATE REGARDING DAMAGE.
LOSS OF THEFT AS IT RELATES TO THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION AND MARINE.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION? IT'S SO MOVED.
LATE ON THAT YOU HAVE A REPORT? WE DO.
UH, JANICE MCWELL, ACTING BUREAU MANAGER FOR BUSINESS OPERATIONS WILL PROVIDE THAT.
UM, FOR THE MONTH OF MAY? YES.
UM, THERE WERE 12, UH, REPORTED ASSET LOSS ON THIS REPORT FOR A TOTAL OF $7,057.
UM, A MAJORITY OF THAT, UM, WAS MATERIALS COST, UM, BECAUSE ONE OF THE ITEMS ITSELF WAS ABOUT ALMOST $4,400.
JUST ONE ITEM WAS ABOUT HALF OF MORE THAN HALF.
AND THAT WAS, UH, SOMEONE BURNED DOWN A PORTA-POTTY AT FOREST PARK.
WHERE WAS IT? DIVORCE A FOREST.
SO THE REST OF 'EM WERE, UM, YOU KNOW, A FEW, YOU KNOW, VANDALISM TO EQUIP LIKE PLAY EQUIPMENT, LIKE SWINGS OR FLIES.
UM, A FEW OF THEM WERE, YOU KNOW, ELECTRICAL WIRING OR LIGHT
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VANDALISMS, BUT, UM, THE BIGGEST ONE OF THOSE WAS THE, THE CORD POTTY VANDALISM.SO, UH, FOR THE YEAR WE ARE AT, UM, AS OF THROUGHOUT OCTOBER, MAY, FISCAL YEAR, 41,895.
AND JUST TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE, LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME, WE WERE VERY CLOSE TO THAT AT 42,478.
SO I GUESS YOU COULD SAY WE ARE TRACKING NORMAL.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? SO YOU MENTIONED THAT, UH, SOME OF IT WAS LIGHTS, ELECTRICAL WORK.
SO THAT'S THAT COPPER WIRING AGAIN.
UM, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY IF THEY GET INTO THE COPPER WIRE.
UH, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY COPPER WIRE THEFTS RECENTLY.
SO TYPICALLY IF IT IS, UH, LIGHTING, THANK YOU
UM, IF IT IS LIGHTING, UH, IT IS TYPICALLY, UM, REPAIRS TO SOMEBODY WHO THREW SOMETHING AT A BOWL.
OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
BUT WE'VE NOT HAD, UH, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT, UH, COUPLE WIRE.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A KIND OF A, A GOOD SEGUE TO A, A DEEPER CONVERSATION.
OUR PD HAS REALLY BEEN DOING A GOOD JOB.
UH, THEY'VE SET UP A SPECIAL DETAIL BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT'S HITTING PARKS, UM, IT'S HITTING STREET LIGHTS.
UH, THERE WERE PERIODS, YOU KNOW, A FEW MONTHS AGO WHERE WHOLE BLOCKS WERE GONE.
UM, AT LEAST WITH THE STREET, IT'S NOT PERSONAL PROPERTY, BUT, UM, UH, THEY MADE SOME ARRESTS, UM, WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY WHO HAD SOME EVIDENCE OF PREVIOUS, UH, THEFTS, SOMEBODY WHO HAD BEEN DOING IT FOR A WHILE.
THAT WAS A, THAT WAS A GOOD, UH, JOB BY OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND, UH, I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO SEE MORE, BUT FORTUNATELY OVER THE LAST MONTH OR SO, YEAH.
MAKING A PREVIOUS MEETING, YOU MENTIONED THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, LOCAL PDS HAVE DONE IS TARGETING THE BUYERS AS NOT NECESSARILY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING OUTSTANDING.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, PARTICULARLY THE LAST TIME, UH, WE HAD THESE ISSUES, WHICH WAS PRE COVID.
UM, THERE WAS ACTUALLY SOME LEGISLATION THAT HELPED THAT, UH, CREATED SOME STIFFER PENALTIES FOR THOSE RECYCLING COMPANIES, UH, THAT WERE ESSENTIALLY, ESSENTIALLY BUYING THE, UH, THE COVER WIRING.
AND SO THAT WAS A, THAT WAS A BIG DEAL.
WE HAVEN'T SEEN MUCH, UH, NEW LEGISLATION TO KIND OF HELP WITH THIS.
BUT, UM, KNOCK ON WOOD AGAIN, UH, THINGS HAVE BEEN BETTER BOTH FOR US AND PUBLIC WORKS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, UH, HEARING NONE, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER OR SMITH.
WE'LL NOW GO TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, A RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE AN UPDATE REGARDING FINANCE AND WATER AS IT RELATES TO THE PARK, PARKS AND RECREATION MARINE.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION? SO SECOND.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SMITH FOR I SECOND.
UM, AND DIRECTOR, DO WE HAVE A REPORT? WE DO.
SO BEFORE HANDING IT OFF TO JANICE TO PROVIDE THE REPORT, I DO JUST WANT TO COMMENT THAT TODAY'S FINANCE REPORT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN PREVIOUS FINANCE REPORTS.
IT'S NOT JUST GONNA BE KIND OF A STATUS OF HOW WE'RE DOING FINANCIALLY OR EXPENDITURES AND REVENUES, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A HIGH LEVEL DISCUSSION ON FEES.
SO RECALL, ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR, WE'LL BRING FIRST TO THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE, UH, A GROUPING OF FEES THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO CHANGE.
UM, AND THEN AT THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING, SO IN THIS CASE THE JULY COMMISSION MEETING, WE WILL HAVE A FEE HEARING TO GO OVER SOME OF OUR FEE CHANGES.
AND SO, UH, PART OF WHAT JANICE IS GONNA COVER TODAY ARE SOME OF THOSE PROPOSED FEE CHANGES THAT THE ENTIRE COMMISSION WILL HEAR IN JULY.
AND WE DO THAT, IT'S KIND OF ALIGNED WITH THE CITY'S, UM, BUDGET PROCESS WHERE, UH, THEN ONCE WE GET APPROVAL, ASSUMING WE GET APPROVAL FROM THE COMMISSION, THESE FEE CHANGES THEN COULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THE CITY'S MASTER FEE SCHEDULE THAT GETS UPDATED, UH, WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET IN EARLY SEPTEMBER.
SO ALL OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE FEES, THEY WILL BE TAKING THEIR FEES TO THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
THE PARKS AND RECOGNITION HAS THE CHARTER AUTHORITY TO
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APPROVE OUR RECREATION FEES.AND THEN IT'S JUST KIND OF PROCEDURAL, UM, ADDING IT TO THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE.
AND ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS HAVE THEIR FEES UPDATED IN SEPTEMBER AS PART OF THE ADOPTION OF THE FY 27 BUDGET.
THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION.
IN PREVIOUS, UH, UH, PERIODS WE HAVE HAD A LIST OF THOSE RECOMMENDED CHANGES.
WHO IT IS THE AMOUNT WE WILL, THOSE WILL BE PART OF THE COUNCIL OR THE COUNCIL COMMISSION, THE COMMISSION ACTION IN JULY.
SO YOU'LL HAVE A LISTING OF ALL THOSE FEES.
JANICE IS GONNA COVER THE FEES THAT, UM, OUR, OUR CHANGING, BUT WE'RE NOT, WE DON'T HAVE A HANDOUT FOR THAT FOR GOVERNANCE TODAY.
AND I THINK WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR OF, ALRIGHT.
UM, WELL FIRST I WILL TALK ABOUT THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, UH, FINANCE REPORT.
SO THIS IS AS OF THE END OF MAY.
UM, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE PERCENTAGES FROM 25 VERSUS 26 AND THEY'RE ALMOST IDENTICAL.
UM, SO I GUESS WE'RE, WE'RE VERY NORMAL.
FOR UM, EXPENDITURES WE'VE SPENT ABOUT 56% OF OUR BUDGET, UM, IN THE GENERAL FUND.
UM, AND THEN FOR REVENUE, WE HAVE EARNED ABOUT 61% OF OUR BUDGETED REVENUE THAT'S BASED ON BUDGET.
UM, SO THAT'S GOOD REVENUE IS, IS UP.
SEVEN US DOESN'T TELL ME
BUT I, WE ARE DOING WELL 'CAUSE I THINK 56% OF EXPENDITURES, SEVEN IS, WE'RE MORE THAN HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR, SO THAT'S GOOD.
UM, AND THEN OVERALL FOR WATER, UM, WE HAVE SPENT ABOUT 51% OF OUR WATER BUDGET.
OUR WATER BUDGET IS THE SAME AS LAST YEAR.
SO WE ARE, YOU KNOW, USING THIS A HIGHER RATE, UH, OF PAY.
BUT LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME WE WERE AT 57%.
SO, UM, AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF SUMMER WE'LL HAVE, BUT UM, OUR WATER BUDGET IN THE GENERAL FUND IS ABOUT 3.2 MILLION FOR IRRIGATION.
SO, UM, WE'VE SPENT ABOUT HALF OF THAT.
SO YES, WE ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO SPEND THAT ENTIRE WATER BUDGET, UM, YOU KNOW, FORECAST LOOK LIKE IT'S GONNA BE A VERY HOT SUMMER AND A VERY DRY SUMMER.
WHAT ABOUT THE
SO SINCE WINTER IS NEXT FISCAL YEAR, NEXT FISCAL YEAR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON THE HOT DRY SUMMER THING THAT WE CAN REALLY HOPE FOR IS A THICK MARINE LAYER THROUGHOUT JUNE.
AND EVEN LAST YEAR IT WENT INTO JULY, WHICH WAS FANTASTIC 'CAUSE EVEN THOSE EXTRA COUPLE OF HOURS, NOT HAVING THE SUN BEATING DOWN ON ON TURF REALLY DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
AND SO HOPEFULLY WE WILL GET SOME OF THAT GREEN LAYER.
UM, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT JUNE, THE JUNE BLOOM, UM, AND INTO JULY.
WE DO HAVE BETTER TECHNOLOGY NOW TO TURN OFF THINGS, UH, SPRINKLERS CONTROLLERS FROM, YOU KNOW, AN IPAD.
SO THAT HELPS SAVE EVERY DOLLAR, UM, FOR THE FEES.
SO I'LL JUST KIND OF REITERATE, UH, THE FEES WILL BE EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1ST, WHICH IS THE FIRST DAY OF FY 27.
UM, ALTHOUGH THE COMMISSION WILL SEE THEM LIKELY IN JULY, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL BE AHEAD OF THE BUDGET PROCESS SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL GO ABOVE THE OTHER DEPARTMENT.
AND THESE ARE JUST FOR THE ONES THAT, UM, THE COMMISSION OVERSEES IN GENERAL FUND.
SO, UM, THEY DO GET NOTICED AS A, SINCE IT'S A FEE HEARING, UM, BEFOREHAND.
SO YOU'LL ACTUALLY SEE THE LIST IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, LENGTH AND NOTICE BEFORE THE COMMISSION MEETING, THERE'S A FULL LIST, BUT THEN YOU'LL ALSO SEE IT AS PART OF YOUR, YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSION ITEM.
SO EVERY YEAR THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT CALCULATES WHAT THEY CALL A CCI, WHICH IS A CITY COST INDEX, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE SAME THING AS THE CPI INCREASE.
UM, AND THAT CAN BE APPLIED TO ALL FEES OR YOU CAN PICK AND CHOOSE WHICH ONES MAY HAVE EXEMPTIONS OR IF YOU'D LIKE TO CHANGE IT, EITHER YOU KNOW, HIGHER OR LOWER THAN THAT PERCENTAGE.
SO FOR FY 27, THE CCI THAT'S CALCULATED AS OF RIGHT NOW IS 3.64%.
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OVER 250 OF THE FEES ARE, WE'RE JUST APPLYING THE CCI RATE JUST TO KEEP UP WITH THE COST OF SERVICES.UM, BUT THERE ARE A FEW WHICH I'LL JUST KIND OF TALK ABOUT, UM, SINCE YOU DON'T HAVE IT VISUALLY THAT ARE EITHER GONNA BE EXEMPT FROM THAT OR A LARGER INCREASE THAN THAT.
SO, UH, AND A FEW NEW FEES, UM, THERE ARE, AND I'LL JUST KIND OF SAY THIS 'CAUSE THEY MIGHT GET CALLED OUT IN A NARRATIVE.
THERE'S A HANDFUL, MAYBE LIKE 15, THAT ARE GOING TO CHANGE BY CCI, BUT WE HAD TO CHANGE SOMETHING IN THE DESCRIPTION, WHETHER IT WAS A TYPO OR JUST UPDATING SOMETHING.
SO THOSE ARE JUST LIKE A DESCRIPTION FIX, BUT SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO CALL THOSE OUT 'CAUSE IT'S CHANGING SOMETHING ON THE LIST.
BUT AGAIN, THE FEE ITSELF IS ONLY CHANGING BY CCI.
THEN THERE'S UM, SEVEN FEES THAT WE'RE RESTRUCTURING FOR THE FEE IF YOU ALL BALANCES OUT, GOES UP BY CCI.
BUT INSTEAD OF A HOUR, UH, LIKE THERE WAS A FOUR HOUR BLOCK AND IT WAS, UM, THESE ARE FOR THE AREA THREE EXCLUSIVE USE FEES IN THE EL DORADO REGIONAL PARK.
SO WE USED TO DO IT BY A DAY OR FOUR HOUR BLOCKS.
SO ESSENTIALLY WE'RE JUST CHANGING, RESTRUCTURING IT TO BE HOURLY.
SO THE RATE IS ACTUALLY THE SAME PLUS THE CCI INCREASE, IT'S JUST, UM, THE CALL A GOOD STRUCTURE.
UH, THE DESCRIPTION, EVERYTHING ELSE IS THE SAME.
THEN WE HAVE FOUR FEES THAT ARE, UH, WE'RE PROPOSING TO INCREASE BEYOND THE 3.64%.
UH, ONE OF THOSE IS BEFORE FIT FEE FOR BASKET, EXCUSE ME, BASEBALL.
AND THIS IS, UM, 'CAUSE WE HAVE TO PAY THE UMPIRES.
SO THE FEE WILL GO UP, UH, FROM $200 TO, TO $220.
AND THAT BASICALLY COVERS THE COST OF THE UMPIRES.
AND YOU, THIS MAY SOUND FAMILIAR 'CAUSE WE'VE DONE THESE BEFORE, BUT THIS JUST GOES TO SHOW THAT THE UMPIRE FEES ARE CHANGING AND SO WE'RE JUST KEEPING PACE WITH WHAT THE UMPIRES ARE CHARGING.
AND THEN WE HAVE REBOUND WRITING.
OH, THE YOUTH PARTICIPATION FEE, WHICH IS FOR THE LEAGUES.
UM, THERE'S A RESIDENT AND NON-RESIDENT FEE.
THEY'LL BE GOING UP BY $3 EACH.
SO IT'S 16 AND 21 FOR RESIDENT NON-RESIDENTS.
WE'LL BE GOING TO 19 AND 24 FOR THEIR PROPOSED BUDGET.
SO LET ME EXPLAIN THAT ONE A LITTLE BIT.
SO THESE ARE FOR OUR YOUTH LEAGUES.
SO A YSO LEAGUES YOUTH BASEBALL LEAGUES, UH, L-A-Y-E-S.
INSTEAD OF CHARGING THESE YOUTH LEAGUES AN HOURLY FIELD FEE, WE DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
WE CHARGE THEM PER CHILD, A YOUTH PARTICIPATION FEE.
THEY PAY US THAT FEE AND THAT ESSENTIALLY COVERS ALL OF THEIR USE THAT THEY NEED FOR OUR FIELDS.
IF WE WERE TO CHARGE LEAGUES HOURLY, UM, FOR THE FIELDS, VERY FEW WOULD BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY AFFORD THE COST OF THE HOURLY RENTALS OF THE FEES.
SO THIS IS ALMOST KIND OF A, ALMOST LIKE A SUBSIDY TO A CERTAIN EXTENT FOR OUR YOUTH SPORTS LEAGUES.
AND UM, YOU CAN CALL IT A NONPROFIT DISCOUNT 'CAUSE THEY'RE NON-PROFIT.
AND SO, UM, WE ARE INCREASING THAT FEE THOUGH BY $3 FOR BOTH EACH RESIDENT AND NON-RESIDENT.
PER CHILD, SO A YSO MAY HAVE A THOUSAND KIDS, LET'S SAY 800 OF THEM ARE LONG BEACH RESIDENTS, IT'LL GO FROM 16 TO $19 PER K.
UM, AND THEN FOR NON-RESIDENT IT GOES 22 TO 25, 21 TO 24, 21 TO 24.
THIS HELPS US KEEP UP WITH OUR COSTS AS WELL.
UM, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH SOME LEAGUES WILL KIND OF PROVIDE SOME MAINTENANCE ON THE FIELDS, WE STILL THOUGH ALSO HAVE, UH, COSTS AS WELL.
UM, AND SO THESE ARE REALLY FEES THAT THE LEAGUES JUST TACK ON TO THEIR REGISTRATION.
THAT THE QUESTION, IF A FAMILY IS UNABLE TO AFFORD THAT D DOES THE GROUP, THAT'S THE, THE LEAGUES TYPICALLY THE LEAGUE WILL COVER HELP THEM.
SOME LEAGUES WILL HAVE LIKE A SCHOLARSHIP, NOT THE PARKS GOT.
AND THEN THE LAST FEE THAT IS INCREASING BEYOND THE 3.64 IS FOR THE GOLDEN GROVE, UH, PICNIC AREA, WHICH IS IN EL DORADO EAST, UM, FOR THE DEPOSIT.
AND THAT'S REALLY, UM, IT GOES FROM, RIGHT NOW IT'S FIVE 30, IT'LL BE GOING TO 750.
AND THAT'S DETER PEOPLE FROM JUST, CAN WE MAKE IT A
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THOUSANDI MEAN, I'M TRYING TO PROTECT NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE FEES THAT IS REALLY INTENDED TO INFLUENCE BEHAVIOR AND IN PARTICULAR INFLUENCE BAD BEHAVIOR.
THERE ARE SOME ENTITIES THAT PERMIT GOLDEN GROVE AND KNOW THEY ARE GONNA BE BAD ACTORS AND THEY BUILD THAT DEPOSIT INTO THE COST OF THEIR PROGRAM AND THEY'RE LIKE, YEAH, FORGET IT.
WE, WE DON'T NEED OUR $500 THAT WE'RE BUILDING THIS INTO THE COST OF THE EVENT AND WE DON'T CARE.
YOU KNOW, SO WE'LL ACT POORLY, UH, WE DON'T CARE ABOUT GETTING THE DEPOSIT BACK.
SO WE ARE TRYING TO TAKE SOME CERTAIN STEPS TO TRY TO INFLUENCE BEHAVIOR.
AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE SCENARIOS.
SO YOU SAID FROM 500, IT'S 530 AND IT'S GOING, WE'RE PROPOSING IT AT SEVEN 50.
AND THAT'S JUST FOR THE DEPOSIT? SO DEPOSIT, YEAH.
AND SO IF EVERYTHING WORKS OUT WELL AND THEY, YOU KNOW, BEHAVE THE WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, 98% OF OUR PERMITEES DO NO HARM, NO FOLLOW, THEY GET IT BACK.
UM, IT'S FOR THOSE THAT DO NOT FOLLOW, IS THERE A WAY TO, IF WE FIND LIKE THAT PEOPLE ARE, OH, I'M FORGOING THE SEVEN 50, IS THERE A WAY TO CHANGE IT MIDYEAR? YES.
UH, THAT'S A COMMISSION ACTION.
AND SO THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, SOME YEARS WE WILL HAVE SEVERAL FEE HEARINGS AFTER COMMISSION MEETINGS.
SO WE CAN MAKE SOME OF THOSE MID-COURSE CORRECTIONS.
I MEAN, I HATE TO LIMIT PEOPLE WHO ARE GOOD ACTORS.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE GREAT AT LIKE USING THE SPACE, BUT AFTER THAT MEETING AND FOLKS SHARING THAT THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE IS LIKE SEVERELY DIS DIMINISHED.
I'M NOT ABOUT GOING TO A THOUSAND, BUT YES, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TOOLS IN OUR TOOLBOX.
AND SO THIS IS ONE THAT'S A BIG ONE.
WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA SEE HOW THIS TOOL WORKS AMONG, YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER, UH, CHANGES THAT WE'RE WORKING ON AS WELL.
IS THERE A WAY TO, AND IF YOU DON'T REMEMBER, THIS WAS FROM LAST COMMISSION WHEN WE HAD THE SPEAKERS, UM, IF, UH, IS THERE A WAY TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO GO SOMEPLACE ELSE? LIKE CARSON OR
UM, UH, WHERE THEIR BEHAVIOR IS LESS INTRUSIVE.
SO WITHIN THE CITY, WITHIN OUR CITY ASSETS, GOLDEN GROVE IS OUR BIGGEST KIND OF EVENT AREA OUTSIDE OF THE DOWNTOWN EVENT, UH, AREAS THAT, UH, THE CITY SPECIAL EVENTS AND FILMING PERMITS.
SO IF YOU KNOW WHAT MARINA GREEN IS KIND OF ALONG LIKE SHORELINE DRIVE, UM, WHERE THERE'S ALWAYS A LOT OF LIKE FESTIVALS.
UM, BUT OUTSIDE OF THOSE AREAS, GOLDEN GROVE AND EL DORADO REGIONAL PARK IS OUR BIGGEST, UM, VENUE.
VENUE FOR FESTIVALS, HUGE FAMILY REUNIONS, UM, COMPANY PICNICS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
NOW WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL AS A CITY THAT WE CAN'T SIGNAL, YOU KNOW, SINGLE OUT.
YOU'RE A CAR CLUB, YOU CAN'T COME HERE.
UH, WE HAVE TO BE VERY, VERY CAREFUL.
UM, BESIDES, UH, NOT RETURNING THE DEPOSIT, IS THERE ANY, WHAT WHAT OTHER ENFORCEMENT TOOLS LIKE WHILE THE EVENT IS HAPPENING? SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, ON THAT WE'RE, AND SPECIAL EVENTS IN FILMING.
UM, ONE THING WE'RE LOOKING AT IS SEEING IF MAYBE WE HAND OFF THE PERMITTING OF EVENTS LIKE CAR CLUBS TO OUR SPECIAL EVENTS IN FILMING OPERATION BECAUSE THEY COME WITH A FEW MORE TOOLS THAN WE HAVE.
THEY HAVE A POLICE DETAIL, UM, THAT IS ASSIGNED TO SPECIAL EVENTS.
UM, AND SO THAT CAN KIND OF HELP WITH COORDINATION WITH, THEY HAVE MORE FEES IN ADVANCE.
THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER FROM MY TIME CITY IN TERMS OF, UH, ENFORCEMENT.
UM, THAT IS ONE THING WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, UM, WORKING THROUGH SPECIAL EVENTS AGAIN, WHO HAVE A FEW MORE ENFORCEMENT TOOLS.
UM, ANOTHER THING THAT WE'RE DOING FOR SOME SPECIFIC EVENTS IS I'M GONNA BE PAYING OVERTIME FOR POLICE, UM, TO BE ON SITE FOR CERTAIN EVENTS.
I'M, I'M WONDERING BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY
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THE, THE PEOPLE WHO CAME AND SPOKE WERE TALKING MORE ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACT, BUT YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY OVER HERE AT THE BASEBALL FIELDS, THERE'LL BE WEEKENDS WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'RE PARKING THEIR CARS ON THE GRASS AND YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, ACCORDING TO THE SIGNS YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO.AND, AND CERTAINLY THERE, IT'S CERTAINLY JUST KNOWING LIKE COMMON SENSE AND ALSO HAVING SOME SENSE OF WHAT HAPPENS.
LIKE, I, I KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT ALLOWED, BUT YET WEEKEND AFTER WEEKEND IT'S STILL HAPPENING.
AND SO AGAIN, IT DOESN'T IMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS THE WAY IT DOES SOME OF THE OTHER PARKS BECAUSE THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO RESIDENTIAL AREA RIGHT THERE.
BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T HEAR, HEAR OURSELVES THINK ABOUT YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TOUGH AND THEY COME TO EL DORADO WEST AS WELL.
UM, AND SO AGAIN, THAT'S ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, THING THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO TRY TO, UH, HELP WITH ENFORCEMENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PARKING ON THE GRASS IS ALWAYS A, A BIG ISSUE AND YOU SHOULD GET 'EM FOR PARKING ON THE GRASS, BUT SORT OF ALL THE BASEBALL RIGHT.
AND SO IT'S LIKE THEY'RE OKAY.
YOU'RE NOT, YEAH, WE CAN'T, WE GOTTA BE CAREFUL WITH THAT.
UM, BUT UH, AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY WITH PE AND SPECIAL EVENTS AND, UM, I'D LIKE TO THINK MOVING FORWARD SPECIFIC TO SOME OF THE ISSUES WE'VE HAD WITH CAR CLUBS, I, I THINK WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE WE'RE GETTING OUR ARMS AROUND THAT AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT AN EVENT COMING TO EL DORADO IN OCTOBER, LATER ON THE AGENDA.
UH, AND YOU, JUST TO CONTINUE AND WRAP UP THESE, UH, THERE ARE FIVE NEW FEES PROPOSED, UM, SCRIBBLES, OH, UH, YOUTH COURTS AT ADMINISTRATIVE FEE.
I BELIEVE THAT'S FOR $10 RIGHT NOW.
YOUTH COURTS FREE PROGRAM, BUT THEY PAY FOR THEIR UNIFORM.
SO THIS IS PROPOSING TO PUT A $10 ADMINISTRATIVE FEE ON TOP OF THE UNIFORM FEE.
UM, BUT IT WILL BE A SEPARATE FEE.
HOW MUCH ARE THE UNIFORMS USUALLY? RIGHT? IT'S A RANGE, BUT RIGHT NOW I BELIEVE IT'S 15.
OH 'CAUSE THEY'RE PROBABLY LIKE A T-SHIRT OR SOMETHING.
UM, BUT I BELIEVE FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR OR THE LAST FEW SEASONS, IT'S BEEN 15.
AND IS THAT $10 PER CHILD OR PER, PER PARTICIPANT PER SEASON.
SO THAT'S NOT A BIG, IT'S NOT A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT THAT DOES ALMOST DOUBLE THE COST FOR A FAMILY.
SO WHAT'S THE, WHAT IS THE CHANGE THAT, THAT HAS HAPPENED THAT, THAT REQUIRES THE NEED? I THINK IT'S JUST THE COORDINATION ITSELF, UH, OF THE PROGRAM.
I MEAN, IT'S A FREE PROGRAM, BUT IT DOES USE A LOT OF FIELDS AND STAFF TIME AND EQUIPMENT.
SO, AND SO IS THIS LIKE A, A NEW COST RECOVERY, A NEW NEED? IN OTHER WORDS, SOMETHING CHANGED SO NOW WE NEED THE FEE THAT WE DIDN'T OR IS IT JUST A NEED FOR FEES SOMEWHERE AND THEN IT WAS RECOGNIZED THIS AS A PLACE WE COULD GET IT THE LETTER? UM, YEAH, NO, I, I THINK IT PROBABLY IS MORE OF THE LATTER.
WE ARE AS A DEPARTMENT GOING TO HAVE TO START LOOKING AT NEW WAYS TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE.
IF WE DON'T WANT TO CUT THAT, UH, THE CV IS FACING THE $60 MILLION BUDGET SHORTFALL.
UM, THERE WILL BE SERVICE IMPACTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO NOT ELIMINATE PROGRAMS. SO COULD WE, WHEN WE'RE RUNNING THAT PROGRAM, COULD WE HAVE THE PARTNERS OF PARKS? WE DO INFORMATION LIKE THE, AND TO JUST PAY FOR THAT COST? YEP.
THE OTHER, ANOTHER NEW FEE IS A GYM RENTAL MAINTENANCE FEE.
AND THIS IS ALREADY CHARGED COMMUNITY CENTERS AND OTHER PLACES, BUT THIS IS JUST SPECIFICALLY A CALL OUT WHEN THERE'S A GYM RENTAL, WHICH I BELIEVE GYM RENTALS ARE TWO HOUR MINIMUM.
SO IT WOULD JUST BE ON TOP OF THAT PLUS HOWEVER MANY HOURS THEY RENT IT FOR.
UM, A PERMIT CANCELLATION FEE.
UM, RIGHT NOW, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ONE OR IT DOESN'T SPECIFY THAT IT'S FOR ALL PERMITS, BUT ESSENTIALLY IT'S THE FEE FOR PROCESSING THE REFUND.
HOW MUCH IS THAT TOO? IT'S GONNA BE 11, 10 OR 11 CT I MAKES.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A, A SEPARATE FEE, THE REFUND FOR PROCESSING FEE, WHICH ESSENTIALLY, WHICH IS ALSO $11 FOR 11.
SO IT'S THE SAME FEE, BUT IT'S JUST MAKING SURE IT'S SPELLED OUT THAT WHEN YOU CANCEL THE, AND THE RENTAL MAINTENANCE FEE, HOW MUCH WAS THAT? THE GYM RENTAL MAINTENANCE FEE? I NEED TO LOOK THAT IS $166, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH UM, COMMUNITY CENTER MAINTENANCE FEE.
AND THEN THE LAST, BUT THAT'S NOT PER INDIVIDUAL IS IT? OR IS THAT PER RENTAL? SO IF YOU RENT A GYMNASIUM FOR FOUR HOURS,
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YOU'D PAY THE HOURLY, YOU KNOW, RATE AND THEN YOU WOULD PAY THIS, UH, MAKE IT FEE.WHAT'S THE HOURLY
UH, LET'S SEE IF I CAN FIND FOR ADULT NON-PROFIT, THERE'S DIFFERENT TIERS, BUT IT'S RANGES ANYWHERE FROM 55 TO SEVEN EIGHT.
AND IS THAT HOUR PER HOUR? YEAH.
THAT'S FOR LIKE BASKETBALL GROUPS, SO I BELIEVE SO.
UM, I'M NOT SPORTY, BUT
YEAH, I MEAN YOU COULD EVEN DO LIKE A YOGA CLASS IN A GYMNASIUM.
AND THE LAST NEW FEE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS, UM, JUST CALLED IT LIKE A MAINTENANCE FEE, WHICH IS FOR OPEN SPACE OR PERMITS TO GATHER IT'S A $10 FEE.
SO RIGHT NOW IF YOU GET A PERMIT TO GATHER, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE YOU PAY AN ADMINISTRATIVE FEE, UM, WHICH IS JUST, YOU'RE GETTING A PERMIT TO GATHER.
SO YOU HAVE 200 PEOPLE IN OPEN SPACE.
THIS IS A $10 FEE ON TOP OF THAT.
AND THIS IS REALLY TO RECOVER THE WEAR AND TEAR OF THE PARK.
IRRIGATION, LANDSCAPING PROBES, TRASH, TRASH, TRASH.
SO YOU SAID THERE WERE FIVE NEW FEES AND I DON'T HAVE FOUR.
I HAVE YOUTH SPORTS ADMINISTRATIVE FEE, GYM RENTAL FEE REFUND PROCESSING FEE REFUND AND PERMIT CANCELLATION FEE, WHICH IS, YEAH.
AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE IS EITHER CCI, THERE ARE A FEW THAT WILL GO UNCHANGED.
A LOT OF THOSE ARE PERCENTAGE FEES.
SO THE PERCENTAGE STAYS THE SAME OR ZERO FEES, BUT THEY'RE STILL LISTED ON OUR, UH, FEE LIST AS A FEE.
UM, GATE FEES CURRENTLY NO CHANGE, UM, TO THE EL DORADO REGIONAL AND IF IT'S UNDER A CONTRACT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE DON'T CHANGE THE FEE UNLESS OF THE CONTRACT, WHICH IS, SO THE FULL LIST WILL COME OUT, UH, PRIOR TO THE COMMISSION MEETING IN JULY.
AND IS THE CITY GONNA BE PLEASED WITH THESE ADDITIONAL, THIS ADDITIONAL REVENUE STREAM? I HOPE SO.
YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS, YOU GET REALLY WATCH HOURLY PART-TIMERS, RIGHT? SO WE TRY TO CONSIDER, I THINK THE CITY AS A WHOLE, SO THIS IS KIND OF A, A, A BROADER STATEMENT, WORKS VERY HARD TO ENSURE COST RECOVERY.
AND AS OUR COSTS GO UP, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE OUR FEES, UH, ARE ALIGNED WITH THOSE NEW COSTS.
NOW IN CERTAIN AREAS IN RECREATION THOUGH, WE DO TRY TO KEEP THINGS A LITTLE BIT LOWER AND WE DON'T ACHIEVE COST RECOVERY BECAUSE WE DON'T, BECAUSE OF WHAT WE PROVIDE TO THE COMMUNITY.
WE DON'T WANT, WE COST TO BE A BARRIER TO ENTRY.
SO WE DON'T REALLY PURSUE FULL COST RECOVERY IN ALL AREAS.
IN SOME WE ABSOLUTELY DO, BUT YOUR POOLS, YOU ARE NEVER GONNA GET COST RECOVERY.
NOBODY COULD AFFORD TO USE A POOL IF YOU'RE DOING FULL COST RECOVERY.
I GUESS MY QUESTION ABOUT THE REFUND PROCESSING FEE, SO I PUT MONEY DOWN TO USE THE SPACE MM-HMM
AND THEN, UM, YOU'RE GONNA GIVE IT BACK TO ME BECAUSE EVERYTHING'S FINE, BUT I HAVE TO PAY $11.
IF IT'S WITHIN, UM, OR OUTSIDE OF, YOU KNOW, 90 DAYS OR WHATEVER THAT FACILITY RESERVATION REQUIRES FOR CANCELLATION.
SO THIS IS USUALLY WHEN IT DOESN'T FALL WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF, HEY, IF YOU CANCEL WITHIN, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF 90 DAYS.
UM, THAT'S A DIFFERENT SCENARIO.
ARE CCI, SO, OKAY, I DON'T WANNA GO THROUGH 200 AND LESS THESE, BUT AS A DEPARTMENT WE HAVE OVER 600, 600, WE HAVE OVER 800, WE HAVE OVER 800, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM FALL UNDER.
MANY OF THEM ARE TIED LIKE IN THE
THEY ALL SOUND THE SAME AFTER A WHILE,
BUT THAT CONCLUDES MY FEE REPORT.
ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, JANICE? NO, I APPRECIATE YOU LETTING US INTERRUPT YOU WITH OUR
UM, SO HEARING NONE, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER HIA, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER OR SMITH.
UH, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, THE RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS THE AGENDA FOR THE PARKS ATION RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING OF JUNE 18TH, 2026.
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SO MOVED.UH, DIRECTOR, IS THERE A REPORT? THERE IS.
UM, SO, UH, OUR MEETING NEXT THURSDAY, UH, DOES NOT HAVE A LOT OF AGENDA ITEMS, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GONNA BE A QUICK MEETING.
AND SO I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS.
SO OF COURSE WE'LL HAVE OUR EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH PRESENTATION AND YOU'LL APPROVE THAT, THE MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING.
UM, ITEM NUMBER TWO, UH, IS OUR PARK EQUITY, UH, PRESENTATION.
AND SO, UM, THAT COULD TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
UM, I JUST, UH, RECEIVED A DRAFT OF IT AND YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE 30 SLIDES WITH A LOT OF MEAT TO IT.
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT CONVERSATION THOUGH, AND ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO SHARING WITH THE COMMISSION.
THIS IS OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IS KIND OF, ARE WE THINKING ABOUT EQUITY WHEN OFFERING PROGRAMS OR DESIGNING NEW PARKS OR, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING ELSE.
AND SO THIS WILL KIND OF TALK ABOUT, UH, AN UPDATE, UM, TO, UM, WHAT WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED, UH, TO DIFFERENT CITY BODIES IN YEARS PAST, IN YEARS PAST OUR PARK EQUITY UPDATES.
WERE REALLY ABOUT, WE PROVIDE THESE PROGRAMS AND WE PROVIDE THESE PROGRAMS IN THESE AREAS.
UH, THIS IS GONNA DELVE INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN JUST THAT.
IT'S GONNA BE TALKING A BIT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IN MY MIND, PARK EQUITY IS HEALTH EQUITY.
AND SO WHAT ALL DOES HEALTH EQUITY MEAN? THE DESIGN OF PARKS IS HEALTH EQUITY.
UM, YOU KNOW, ENSURING THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY PARKS THAT ARE ACCESSIBLE, BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT, UH, HEAT CENTERS AND, YOU KNOW, MANY IN THE COMMUNITY DON'T HAVE A BACKYARD.
YOU GO TO A PARK, YOU GOTTA MAKE SURE YOU HAVE SHADE, YOU HAVE WATER, YOU HAVE OPEN SPACE.
SO WE'LL TALK A BIT ABOUT THOSE THINGS.
AND SO THAT'S GONNA BE PROBABLY THE, YOU KNOW, A GOOD PROBABLY 25 MINUTE PRESENTATION EVENTS IN Q AND A IS, SO DO YOU KNOW WHO THE PRESENTER IS? WE'RE GONNA HAVE SEVERAL.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UM, THREE OF OUR CITY OR DEPARTMENT DIVISION OFFICERS.
ONE'S GONNA BE OUR PARTNERSHIPS OFFICER, UM, YOU KNOW, WHO CAN SPEAK TO SOME OF OUR PARTNERSHIPS WITH RESPECT TO PROGRAMMING.
WE CAN'T PROVIDE EVERYTHING THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD LOVE TO SEE, EVEN THOUGH WE WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO DO IT.
BUT THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS WE'RE ABLE TO ADDRESS, UH, CERTAIN NEEDS OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY.
OUR PARK DEVELOPMENT OFFICER WILL BE TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT PARK DESIGN AND, AND WHAT THAT MEANS.
AND THEN, UM, JOY WARREN, OUR RECREATION SUPERINTENDENT WILL THEN TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE PROGRAMMATIC, UH, COMPONENTS.
SO WHO, WHO'S THE OH, THE PARTNERSHIP DIRECTOR.
SO WE WILL HAVE SEVERAL PRESENTERS.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE FEE WAIVERS.
UM, AND THEN WE ARE BRINGING FORWARD A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT.
AND THIS IS FOR AN EVENT IN EL DORADO REGIONAL PARK AT GOLDEN GROVE.
UM, THIS IS A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT.
SO THE CITY'S SPECIAL EVENTS AND FILMING OFFICE HANDLES THIS PERMIT, BUT IT COMES TO THE COMMISSION TO ESSENTIALLY SAY, YOU KNOW, WE ARE OKAY WITH THIS IN THIS PARK SETTING.
UM, GOLDEN GROVE IS OUR LOCATION FOR THESE TYPES OF EVENTS.
THIS WILL HAVE MUSIC, THIS WILL HAVE ALCOHOL.
UM, IT IS THE, UH, IDEW, THE INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF ELECTRICAL WORKERS.
UH, I THINK LOCAL 11 THAT'S DOING THEIR BIG, UM, WHAT ARE THEY CALLING IT? UM, I DUNNO IF THEY HAVE A NAME FOR IT.
THEIR, THEIR BIG, UM, FESTIVAL.
HAVE THEY DONE THIS BEFORE? NOT AT THIS LOCATION ELSEWHERE IN THE PARKS OR, UH, WE'LL HAVE TO CHECK.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE BEYOND JUST LONG BEACH, SO, UM, WE CAN CHECK TO SEE IF MAYBE SPECIAL EVENTS WAS ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THEM DOWNTOWN.
UH, LIKE AT MARINA, UM, MARINA GREEN.
UM, BUT I KNOW THAT THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THIS, UH, DATE.
AND SO, UM, THIS WILL BE COMING FORWARD AS PART OF THE STAFF
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PRESENTATION.WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE, UM, PARAMETERS OF THE EVENTS, SOME OF THE, UM, TOOLS THAT SPECIAL EVENTS WILL HAVE SINCE THIS WILL BE A SPECIAL EVENT, UM, PERMIT.
UM, YOU'VE SEEN THESE BEFORE, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR OTHER FESTIVALS AND OTHER PARKS, BUT, UM, I AM JUST KIND OF CALL CALLING SPECIAL ATTENTION TO THIS, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE OF THE SPEAKERS WE HAD LAST.
DID WE GET A CHANCE TO CONNECT WITH 'EM AFTERWARDS? YES.
WILL THEY KNOW THAT THIS IS ON THE AGENDA? YES.
AND THEN QUESTION, WHAT IS, DO WE KNOW THE TIMING OF THE EVENT? I WAS WHAT IN THAT TOO? YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE THE LETTER.
I BELIEVE IT'S MOST OF THE DAY, WHICH I BELIEVE IS A SATURDAY.
WHAT TIME DO THE PARKS CLOSE? EIGHT.
UM, THAT'S PROBABLY, WE'RE IN OCTOBER.
WE'RE GETTING TO THAT CHANGE OF, UH, OUR CLOSING TIME, BUT I THINK IT'S PROBABLY STILL AROUND EIGHT OR NINE.
AND WE'LL HAVE ALL THE DETAILS FOR THAT ON THAT MEETING.
YEAH, THAT, THAT'S IN THE ACTUAL, THE PACKET LETTER.
UH, SO WE HAVE AN MOTION ON THE FLOOR ABOUT THE AGENDA FOR, UH, NEXT, UH, WEEK'S, UH, UM, BROUGHT TO THE TABLE BY, OH THIS IS FOR THE INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD SPECIAL EVENTS PERMIT APPLICATION.
AND UH, THE OSHA WAS PROVIDED BY COMMISSIONER HIGA, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER OR ALREADY SMITH, WAS IT THE OTHER ONE? I THINK HE WAS, I'M SO SORRY.