Jun 18, 2026 Utilities Commission - Planning Committee

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ALL RIGHT, FOLKS.

UH, WELCOME TO THE PLANNING COMMITTEE.

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UH, CALLING THE MEETING TO ORDER.

UH, LET'S SEE.

DINA, MAY WE PLEASE HAVE ROLL CALL

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MEMBER MCGUIRE HERE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, SO ITEM NUMBER

[1. 26-55488 Recommendation to approve April 16, 2026 Planning Committee meeting minutes.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

UH, MAY I PLEASE HAVE A MOTION? AND SECOND, UH, ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, ANY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ITEM NUMBER TWO,

[2. 26-55489 Recommendation to receive and file an overview of the Pier B On-Dock Rail Support Facility (ODRSF) Program.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

UH, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE MOTION ON A SECOND? UH, CALL ON KEVIN TO GOES KIND OF .

OKAY, GOOD.

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OKAY.

GOOD MORNING, PRESIDENT SCOTT AND COMMISSIONER MCGUIRE.

I'M ERIC BUELLER.

I'M A SENIOR, SENIOR CIVIL ENGINEER IN THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES GROUP IN THE WATER ENGINEERING BUREAU, EVAN TOOKUS.

AND I HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION TO GIVE SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION ABOUT THE COM COMMITTEE MEETING, WHICH IS IN REGARD TO THE PIER B ON DOCK GRAIL SUPPORT FACILITIES PROGRAM OF THE PORT OF LONG BEACH.

THE PORT OF LONG BEACH CURRENTLY HAS A RAIL YARD FOUNDED ON THE SOUTH BY PIER B STREET, AND ON THE NORTH BY PARCELS, THE FRONT WEST NINTH STREET.

THE PORT HAS DETERMINED THAT TO MAINTAIN ENVIRONMENTAL EXCELLENCE AND COMPETITIVENESS, IT MUST INVEST IN ITS RAIL NETWORK.

THE PORT OF LONG BEACH HERE BEYOND DUCK RAIL SUPPORT FACILITIES PROGRAM IS IN DESIGN PHASE WITH SOME EARLY ACTION ITEMS ALREADY IN CONSTRUCTION.

THE PROGRAM AIMS TO RELIEVE TERMINAL AND ROADWAY CONGESTION, ACCOMMODATE LONG UNIT TRAINS IN THE PORT, AND ALLOW RAIL CARS TO MOVE INTO AND OUT OF THE PORT WITH GREATER SPEED TO SUPPORT, GET MY TIPPY TOE, GET TO THE MIC.

UM, SO I'M, I'M A FILL IN, UH, RAUL MARTINEZ, UH, WORKED WITH ERIC ON THIS PRESENTATION AND YOU'RE STUCK WITH ME 'CAUSE HE HAD A FAMILY EMERGENCY HE HAD TO ATTEND TO.

SO, UM, SO ON, ON THIS SLIDE WE'RE SHOWING THE, THE AREA THAT, UH, WHERE THE COORDINATION IS TAKING PLACE.

UH, THE PORTAL THAT, OH, SORRY.

TO SUPPORT THE INVITATION OF THE, UH, PB PROJECT AND ADVANCE THE OVERALL PROGRAM OBJECTIVES, SEVERAL KEY ACTION ITEMS HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED, INCLUDING THE FOLLOWING, EXECUTE AN MOU BETWEEN OUR DEPARTMENT AND THE HARBOR DEPARTMENT.

THE AGREEMENT SUPPORTS CRITICAL PORT RAIL EXPANSION AND INFRASTRUCTURE MODERNIZATION EFFORTS.

UH, LONG BEACH UTILITIES DEPARTMENT SHALL COMMIT RESOURCES TO SUPPORT THE PB PROGRAM AND REQUIRE UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE RELOCATIONS.

AND THE PORT IS FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THE COSTS, UH, FOR THIS, FOR THIS WORK FOR BOTH WATER, SEWER AND GAS RELOCATION.

UH, AND WE'RE GONNA, THE PROJECT IS TO IDENTIFY EXISTING FACILITIES THAT ARE IN CONFLICT WITH THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS ON THE PB UH, PROJECT, UH, WHICH THIS SLIDE HIGHLIGHTS.

UM, THIS AREA HERE IS THE PROJECT AREA, AND IT'S NOT JUST WHAT MAKES THIS JOB COMPLICATED IS IT'S NOT JUST WATER, SEWER AND GAS LINES.

THERE'S OIL LINES OUT THERE, THERE'S OTHER UTILITIES.

AND SO YOU HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH THEM, UH, TO MAKE, UH, SEAMLESS CHANGE AND EFFORTS.

AND SO THAT'S WHY EARLIER I, I THINK EARLIER OUR LAST MEETING I CAME IN AND I, WE HAD TO EXTEND OUR CONTRACT BECAUSE OF SOME OF THOSE COORDINATION EFFORTS OR, UH, DELAYING OUR PROJECT EFFORTS.

SO I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO ERIC.

THERE'S CURRENTLY A SYSTEM OF WATER AND SEWER TRANSMISSION AND DISTRIBUTION MAINS IN THE NORTH HARBOR AREA.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE, THE MAP, WATER IS BLUE AND A SEWER IS GREEN.

EXISTING PORTIONS TO BE REMOVED ARE

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CURRENTLY, THERE'S A 48 INCH AND A 36 INCH WATER TRANSMISSION MAINE THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED ALONG WITH EIGHT INCH AND 12 INCH WATER MAINS.

THERE'S ALSO SEWER, WHICH INCLUDES A 28 INCH AND A 36 INCH TRUNK MAIN, WHICH CONNECT TO THE LA COUNTY SANITATION DISTRICT'S SEWER.

IN ORDER TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW RAIL YARD, A LARGE AMOUNT OF THIS URBANIZED PORTION OF NORTH OF THE NORTH HARBOR AREA MUST BE DEMOLISHED.

THIS INCLUDES MOST OF THE WATER, SEWER, AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT I'M MENTIONING.

OKAY, YOU'RE FINE.

FIVE.

YOU KNOW WHERE THAT , NO IDEA WHAT THAT WAS PRIOR TO REMOVING THE WATER AND SEWER SYSTEMS, NEW WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE MUST BE CONSTRUCTED.

THE PORT HAS PLANS TO CONSTRUCT THE FOLLOWING IN THE NORTH YARD AND WEST EXPANSION PROJECTS.

3,600 LINEAR FEET OF 36 INCH STEEL WATER MAIN AND 3000 LINEAR FEET OF 12 INCH DUCTILE IRON AND STEEL WATER MAINS.

EXTENSIVE WORK WILL BE REQUIRED IN ORDER TO RELOCATE THE SEWER SYSTEM IN THE NORTH YARD AREA.

THE PORT OF LONG BEACH PLANS TO CONSTRUCT A SEWER LIFT STATION TO BE OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THE PORT OF LONG BEACH IS OVER HERE ON THE FAR WEST PORTION.

THE LIFT STATION CONNECTS TO A FORCE MAIN, WHICH WILL ALSO BE OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THE PORT, AND THEN IT DISCHARGES TO A 3000 LINEAR FEET, UH, 28 INCH AND 33 INCH FIBER REINFORCED PIPE SEWER THAT WILL BE CONNECTED TO THE LA COUNTY SANITATION DISTRICTS.

THAT WILL BE INSTALLED VIA MICRO, MICRO TUNNELING.

AFTER CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETE, WATER AND SEWER WILL BE REMOVED.

THE PORT OF LONG BEACH HAS ASSUMED FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE COSTS INCURRED BY THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT.

THEY HAVE CONTRACTED WITH HDR WHO HAS PROVIDED CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS AND THEY ARE HANDLING THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND PROCURING THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR.

THE PORT OF LONG BEACH WILL REIMBURSE LBU FOR ALL COSTS WE INCUR, WHICH INCLUDES PLAN, REVIEW, PROJECT AND CONSTRUCTION COORDINATION AND INSPECTION.

THE BID ADVERTISED DATE IS CURRENTLY IN MID-JULY WITH CONSTRUCTION NOTICE TO PROCEED SLATED FOR FEBRUARY, 2027.

SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION IS PROJECTED FOR SEPTEMBER, 2029.

WITH THESE SCHEDULES SUBJECT TO CHANGE PER THE MOU DATED DECEMBER, 2023, CONSTRUCTION COST IS TO BE PAID FOR BY THE PORT OF LONG BEACH.

PORT OF LONG BEACH WILL ALSO REIMBURSE LBU FOR ITS COSTS, INCLUDING PLAN REVIEW, CONSTRUCTION COORDINATION AND INSPECTION.

SO ON THE NATURAL GAS SYSTEM, UH, THE PORT DESIGN TEAM HAS IDENTIFIED, UH, APPROXIMATELY 4.3 MILES OF PIPELINE THAT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED TO SUPPORT THE THE PEER B PROJECT.

UM, THIS CONSISTS OF STEEL, UH, PIPELINES ABOUT 1.25 CENTIMETER OR INCHES IN DIAMETER TO 16 INCH, AND THEN SOME, SOME PLASTIC, UH, PIPELINE AS WELL.

THE IMAGE HERE DISPLAYS THOSE FACILITIES WITHIN THE PIER B PROGRAM LIMITS IN CONFLICT AND HALF, AND WE'VE BEEN ASKED BY THE PORT TO RESOLVE THESE CONFLICTS PRIOR TO THE NOTICE TO PROCEED DATES.

THIS NEXT IMAGE DISPLAYS THE PROPOSED RELOCATION WORK OF APPROXIMATELY 2.7 MILES OF NEW GAS DISTRIBUTION MAINS.

THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF PIPELINE IN, UH, INSTALLED HAS BEEN REDUCED DUE TO, UH, PROPERTIES THAT THE PORT HAD TO ACQUIRE OR AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.

AND SO THEREFORE THERE'S LIMIT, THERE'S REDUCED GAS SURFACES IN THIS AREA, AND SO WE DON'T NEED AS MUCH, UH, TO PUT AS 4.3 MILES OF PIPE BACK IN IN PLACE.

SO FOR THE PROJECT BUDGET, UM,

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AND DESIGN CONSTRUCTION OVER THE 10 YEAR PERIOD IS APPROXIMATELY 42 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.

UM, I DO HAVE SOME UPDATED NUMBERS SINCE THESE SLIDES WERE PUT TOGETHER.

SO THE VALUE OF WORK DONE FROM PROJECT INCEPTION THROUGH, UH, SECOND QUARTER OF THIS YEAR IS APPROXIMATELY $20.8 MILLION A REIMBURSEMENT REQUEST RECEIVED AS OF JUNE OF THIS JUNE, UH, 17.8 MILLION.

AND WE STILL HAVE OUTSTANDING APPROXIMATELY 4.2 MILLION IN PENDING UH, REIMBURSEMENT REQUESTS.

AND THE PORT HAS BEEN, UH, SUPPORTIVE OF OUR EFFORTS HERE.

UM, THEY, UH, HAVE BEEN ADVANCING SOME OF THE CASH FUNDS TO US.

SO WE, WE, WHEN WE STARTED, WE WOULD FUND IT OURSELVES AND SEEK REIMBURSEMENT AND JUST BY THEIR PROCESS, THAT TAKES SOME TIME.

AND SO THEY'VE STARTED TO PROVIDE THOSE FUNDS AHEAD OF TIME SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO COME OUT OF POCKET FOR SOME OF THIS FROM THE, OR AT LEAST HOLD OVER SOME OF THOSE COSTS AS AS WE MOVE THROUGH.

AS YOU GUYS KNOW, THE SERIOUSNESS OF OUR GAS FUND, I DUNNO WHY I BROUGHT THAT UP.

ANYWAY, PROJECT STATUS AND TIMELINE, UM, PROJECT STARTED, UH, JULY, 2020.

UH, GAS RE RELOCATION AND CONSTRUCTION EFFORTS STARTED SEPTEMBER, UH, 2023.

UH, WE'RE COMPLETED AS OF MAY OF THIS YEAR.

UH, WE HAVE INSTALLED APPROXIMATELY 1.6 MILES OF GAS MAIN.

I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE USING MILES AND WATER USED FEET, BUT, UH, IF YOU'RE CURIOUS, IT'S ABOUT 8,500 FEET.

UH, WE'VE ABANDONED APPROXIMATELY 1.8 MILES OF GAS MAINE.

A LOT OF THE INSTALLATION IS DONE WITH CONTRACT, LABOR LABOR, BUT SOME OF THE ABANDONMENT WORK HAS BEEN DONE WITH OUR IN-HOUSE CONSTRUCTION FOLKS.

UH, THE WORK REMAINING IS TO, UH, RE RELOCATE APPROXIMATELY 1.1 MILES OF GAS MAINE AND ABANDON AN ADDITIONAL 2.5 MILES OF GAS MAINE.

UH, THE RAINING WORK IS BEING COORDINATED WITH THE PORT UH CONSTRUCTION PACKAGES.

UH, NOTICE D PROCEEDS FOR WEST EXPANSION WORK ON PIER B STREET SHOEMAKER BRIDGE RAMP, DEMOLITION NORTH YARD UTILITIES, AND THE PICO AVENUE REALIGNMENT PROJECT, TENTATIVE COMPLETION FOR ALL THE GAS RELOCATIONS IS FALL OF 2030 AROUND THE CORNER.

SO THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION, AND ERIC AND I ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UH, ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? ANY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? JUST GOOD PROGRESS.

GOOD TO SEE WHERE YOU'RE AT AND TRY TO GET THAT MONEY UP FRONT.

, THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THAT.

I WAS, UH, THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY ONE AND ONLY QUESTION.

SO, UH, GREAT PRESENTATION.

UH, GOOD UPDATE.

UM, YEAH, JUST KEEP ON KEEPING ON.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, ERIC.

THANK YOU KEVIN.

UH, SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

UNOPPOSED.

THANK YOU.

UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE,

[3. 26-55490 Recommendation to receive and file the 2025 Water Distribution System Master Plan Update.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

I MAY HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE I SECOND, UH, CALL ON ROB FOR PRESENTATION.

GOOD MORNING CHAIR, SCOTT, AND GOOD MORNING, MEMBER MCGUIRE.

UH, THE ITEM I HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS AN UPDATE ON THE 2025 WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM MASTER PLANT UPDATE.

SO I HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE UPDATE, SO .

OKAY.

UM, OUR PROJECT ENGINEER, UH, AMY KY UNFORTUNATELY COULD NOT MAKE IT, UH, TODAY, SO I AM STANDING IN AND PRESENTING THIS ITEM FOR YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND I'M GONNA START OFF WITH SOME PROJECT OVERVIEW INFORMATION.

UM, THE DEPARTMENT COMPLETED ITS VERY FIRST, UH, WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM MASTER PLAN BACK IN 2020, UH, DURING COVID.

UM, AND IT INCLUDED AN EVALUATION OF OUR EXISTING WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM, UM, MAINLY FOCUSING IN ON OUR PIPELINE NETWORKS, UM, WITH THIS EFFORT.

AND THAT EFFORT PRODUCED A FINAL REPORT IN CIP RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH THIS CURRENT EFFORT WILL ALSO PRODUCE.

UH, THIS CURRENT PROJECT KICKED OFF OR IS SCHEDULED FOR 24 MONTHS, UM, AND IT OFFICIALLY COMMENCE ON JANUARY 27TH OF THIS YEAR.

SO WE'RE ABOUT SIX MONTHS INTO THE, UH, UH, I WANNA APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE BECAUSE AS I WAS GOING THROUGH THIS

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SO I'LL EXPLAIN THAT AS WE GO ALONG.

SO THERE ARE SEVERAL TASKS THAT ARE PART OF THE, UH, MASTER PLAN UPDATE, UH, AS WITH ANY MASTER PLAN EFFORTS, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THERE'S A DATA COLLECTION AND ASSESSMENT.

SO OUR CONSULTANT, WHO IS BLACK AND VEATCH, UH, KICKED THAT, UH, UH, DATA SER UH, DATA COLLECTION EFFORT OFF, UH, BACK IN JANUARY, UH, ON APRIL 1ST, WE HAD A WORKSHOP ACTUALLY, UH, WITH, UH, OPERATIONS AND ENGINEERING, SO BLACK AND VEATCH CAN GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW, UH, OUR SYSTEM OPERATES.

UM, AND LET ME GET TO THE NEXT SLIDE BECAUSE THE LAST FOUR BULLET POINTS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ON PREVIOUS SLIDE.

SO DURING THAT WORKSHOP, UH, THERE WERE DISCUSSIONS ON HOW, UH, OUR DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM IS RUN, UM, ANY AREAS OF CONCERN WITHIN THE SYSTEM AND HOW WE OPERATE UNDER EMERGENCY CIRCUMSTANCES.

SO THAT WAS PART OF, UH, TASK TWO FOR TASK THREE, THAT WILL INCLUDE EVALUATING EXISTING AND FORECASTED DEMANDS.

UM, SO THERE HASN'T BEEN MUCH WORK, UH, UPFRONT ON THIS, BUT BLACK AND VEATCH IS WORKING IN THE BACKGROUND WITH OUR BILLING INFORMATION, UH, WITH OUR GIS GIS INFORMATION AND OTHER PLANNING DOCUMENTS IN ADVANCE OF, UH, THE ACTUAL WORK FOR THIS TASK.

SO TASK THREE IS THE WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM AND FACILITIES CONDITION ASSESSMENT.

UH, THIS INCLUDES, UH, AN EVALUATION OF OUR COMPLETE SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, OUR SUPPLIES, TANKS, PUMPS, AND REGULATING STATIONS.

IT IDENTIFIES OUR CONSEQUENCE OF FAILURE ASSETS, UH, AND IT ALSO DEFINES OUR PROBABILITY OF FAILURE CRITERIA.

UH, AND THIS ALLOWS US TO PRIORITIZE OUR ASSETS BY RISK.

SO WHAT WILL COME OUT OF THIS IS A RISK REGISTRY FOR ALL OUR PIPELINES.

AND, UH, WE DID HOLD A CONSEQUENCE OF FAILURE WORKSHOP, AGAIN BETWEEN ENGINEERING AND OPERATIONS, UH, THAT WAS HELD ON MAY 20TH.

AND THIS IS JUST A VISUAL, UM, REPRESENTATION OF THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.

SO WE ARE CURRENTLY, UH, UNDER IDENTIFY POF AND, AND COF FACTORS FROM HERE, AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE GONNA DEVELOP A RISK REGISTRY, AND FROM THERE WE ARE ABLE TO PRIORITIZE ANY PIPELINE, UH, PIPELINES THAT REQUIRE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, THROUGH OUR CIP.

AND THIS IS, UM, UH, A TREE TABLE OF THE CONSEQUENCE OF FAILURE.

NOW, THERE ARE THREE CRITERIA THAT WE LOOK AT, UH, ECONOMIC IMPACTS, UH, SOCIAL IMPACTS AND ENVIRONMENTAL.

SO UNDER, UH, ECONOMIC, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE PIPE, UH, THE REPAIR COMPLEXITY AND LOSS OF REVENUE FOR SOCIAL, WE'RE LOOKING AT CRITICAL CUSTOMERS IF THERE'S SCHOOLS OR HOSPITALS OR, UH, INSTITUTIONAL, UM, ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE IMPACTED.

AND WE ALSO HAVE CRITICAL CROSSINGS IF FREEWAYS OR MAJOR THOROUGH AFFAIRS ARE IMPACTED, UH, RAILROAD CROSSINGS AND SUCH.

FOR ENVIRONMENTAL, WE'RE LOOKING AT PROXIMITY TO WATER BODIES IF THE PIPELINES ARE CLOSE TO, LET'S SAY WATERWAYS OR BEACHES AND ENVIRONMENTAL SENSITIVE AREAS SUCH AS THE WETLANDS ALONG STUDEBAKER IS THE PRIME EXAMPLE OF THAT.

NOW, AS PART OF THE CONDITION ASSESSMENT, UH, OUR CONSULTANT IS RESPONSIBLE TO BUILD A PREDICTIVE FAILURE MODEL USING MACHINE LEARNING, UH, THAT WILL BE TRAINED ON HISTORICAL FAILURE DATA.

WE HAVE TONS OF BREAK HISTORY.

UH, WE HAVE 30 YEARS WORTH OF MAIN BREAK.

SO OUR CONSULTANT WILL TAKE ALL THAT DATA AND PUT IT THROUGH AN ALGORITHM TO MACHINE LEARN, UH, AND THAT WILL, UH, YOU KNOW, RESULT IN A PREDICTIVE MODEL.

YES, I NORMALLY DON'T LIKE TO INTERRUPT IN THE MIDDLE, BUT I, I FEEL LIKE OUR COMMITTEE MEETING SHOULD BE A LITTLE MORE INTERACTIVE.

SO HOPEFULLY YOU DON'T MIND IF I OH, NO, NO, ABSOLUTELY.

US IN MIDSTREAM MACHINE LEARNING EQUALS AI.

YES.

OKAY, GREAT.

I LOVE IT.

YEAH.

UH,

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THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DID WITH THE LAST MASTER PLAN OR THE INITIAL MASTER PLAN AS WELL.

SO, UH, WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY ADDITIONAL DATA, UH, THAT CAN BE FED INTO THE ALGORITHM.

UH, AND OUR CONSULTANT WILL BE USING DIFFERENT ALGORITHMS SO WE'RE ABLE TO COMPARE RESULTS ONCE THE STUDY IS DONE.

THANKS.

SO THE CONDITION ASSESSMENT IS ALSO A BASIS OF ASSIGNING PROBABILITY OF FAILURE, UH, TO EVERY PIPELINE WITHIN OUR .

SO THAT TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION PIPELINE MATERIAL, UH, WHEN THE PIPES WERE INSTALLED, LOCATIONS AND SO FORTH.

SO PAIRING THAT WITH THE CONSEQUENCE OF FAILURE, SCORINGS WILL HELP FOCUS IN ON THE HIGHEST RISK PIPE SEGMENTS, UH, THAT REQUIRE ANY IMPROVE.

UM, THIS IS A GAN CHART OF OUR UPCOMING TASKS.

I'M GONNA FAST FORWARD BECAUSE I, I HAD AMY PUT THIS IN TWO POINTS.

SO SOME OF OUR UPCOMING TASKS, UH, AGAIN, EVALUATION OF EXISTING FORECASTED DEMANDS, UH, AND ALL THESE TASKS, UH, WE'RE PLANNING ON, UH, RAMPING UP THE WORK OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR.

UH, TASK FIVE, UH, VERY CRITICAL COMPONENT OF THIS PROJECT IS THE HYDRAULIC MODEL AND UPDATE CALIBRATION.

SO IT'S BASICALLY A COMPUTER SIMULATION OF OUR DISTRIBUTION.

SO, UH, THROUGH THAT WE CAN DETERMINE WHETHER PIPES ARE AN ADEQUATE SIZE, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO HAVE ANY, UH, PRESSURE ISSUES, VELOCITY ISSUES WITHIN OUR PIPELINE SYSTEM.

TASK SEVEN, UH, AGAIN, UH, ONCE THE STUDY IS DONE, THERE WILL BE A MASTER BOARD.

UH, TASK NINE IS THE CONDITION ASSESSMENT, EXECUTION AND DEVELOPMENT OF A WORK PLAN AND WORKSHOP AS WELL.

WE HAVE SOME FIELD DATA COLLECTION UNDER TASK 13 AND, UH, PROBABILITY OF FAILURE, VALIDATION OF TASK 14.

NOW, I WANTED TO FOCUS IN AGAIN ON TASK NINE, WHICH IS THE CONDITION ASSESSMENT EXECUTION.

UH, OUR CONSULTANT DOES PLAN ON INSTALLING LEAK DETECTION TECHNOLOGY, UH, ON SOME OF THE MORE CRITICAL SEGMENT TYPES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED UNDER TASK FOUR.

UM, THE ASSESSMENT SOFTWARE DOES HAVE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, AND AGAIN, THIS GOES BACK TO THE MAYOR'S DIRECTIVE REGARDING, UH, TO HELP US DETECT ANY ANOMALIES, UH, THAT MAY INDICATE A LEAK IN A PIPELINE.

UH, THAT DATA WILL BE COLLECTED FROM TASK NINE AND BE FED BACK INTO THAT PREDICTIVE FAILURE MODEL.

UH, AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THE ACCURACY OF THE MODEL.

AND WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIAL PILOTING A REAL TIME LEAK DETECTION PROGRAM, UH, AS PART OF THE , AND WE'LL HAVE A DASHBOARD AS WELL.

SO THAT CONCLUDES THE UPDATE TO THE UPDATE.

UH, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, ROB, ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? PERFECT.

THANKS.

I GOT JUST ONE.

UM, UM, OKAY.

SLIDE 10.

UM, TASK FIVE, HYDRAULIC MODEL UPDATE CALIBRATION IS, IS THAT JUST LIKE A SNAPSHOT KIND OF THING TO CALIBRATE, TO MOVE FORWARD AND A SNAPSHOT IN TIME OF, YOU KNOW, A SPECIFIC AREA WITHIN OUR DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM? YOU CAN ALSO RUN AN EXTENDED, UH, TIME SIMULATION AS WELL.

OH, GOOD.

OKAY.

SO BUT THAT'S HISTORIC OR IS IT IT'S CURRENT.

IT'S CURRENT AND IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED WITH ALL, SO IT'S CONSTANTLY UPDATED THEN.

AND WE HAVE NEW PIPELINES THAT ARE INSTALLED IN OUR SYSTEM.

UH, MODEL SHOULD BE UPDATED AT THAT.

AND THE NET FEEDS INTO AI TO PREDICT CAN YES, IT CAN.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANKS.

INTERESTING.

UM, SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP, UH, AS YOU WERE, AS YOU WERE SPEAKING.

SO THE LAST, UH, THE LAST ONE OF THESE, UH, UH, MASTER PLAN UPDATES WAS 2020.

YES, THAT WAS THE FIRST ONE.

WE FIRST ONE.

AND THEN SO THIS, SO, UH, IT, I'LL BORROW YOUR TERM SNAPSHOT.

UM, IT, IT, IT, UH, SEEMS LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE TAKING SNAPSHOTS, WHICH IS GREAT,

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WE CERTAINLY NEED TO BE DOING THIS.

UH, IS THERE ANY, UH, FUTURE POTENTIAL INSTEAD OF TAKING A SNAPSHOT IN TIME, OF CONTINUING TO USE OUR, OUR DATA AND ONGOING MONITORING AND, AND WHATNOT TO JUST HAVE A ROLLING MASTER PLAN THAT, UH, YOU MENTIONED, UH, THE DASHBOARD FOR THE LEAK DETECTION, DETECT, UM, DETECT, YOU KNOW, JUST HAVE AN ONGOING, UM, DASHBOARD THAT RAISES RED FLAGS WHEN WATER DISTRIBUTION SEEMS TO BE THAT IS THE PLAN.

I MEAN, TYPICALLY FOR MASTER PLANS, UM, YOU UPDATE A MEMORY FIVE YEARS OR SO.

SURE.

UM, AS THERE COULD BE NEW CONSTRUCTION, UH, DURING THAT TIMEFRAME, NEW PIPELINES THAT ARE PUT IN OR OPERATIONAL CHANGES, UH, WITHIN OUR SYSTEM.

BUT AS PIPELINES ARE INSTALLED, NEW PIPELINES ARE INSTALLED, MODEL IS UPDATED IN A WAY THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING.

RIGHT.

SO, UH, BUT THE MASTER PLAN UPDATE ITSELF IS LOOKING AT IT AT A HIGH 64,000 FOOT LEVEL.

SO SAFE TO SAY IT'S MORE OF AN, UH, AN AUDIT OF, OF OUR CURRENT CONDITIONS, YES.

TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE THINK IS HAPPENING IS ACTUALLY RIGHT.

OKAY.

GREAT.

UH, THOMAS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? UH, I, I THINK I, I ROB CLARIFIED IT VERY WELL.

THE, THE MODEL CONTINUOUSLY GETS, GETS UPDATED WHENEVER WE INSTALL A PIPELINE.

AND YOUR TERM OF AUDIT IS SPOT ON.

IT'S, UH, IT'S, UH, VALIDATION OF WHAT WE BID IN SO FAR.

SO THANK YOU.

THAT'S GREAT.

UH, EXCELLENT WORK.

UM, GOT A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

NON OPPOSED.

THANK YOU, ROB.

UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR, RECEIVE AND FILE

[4. 26-55491 Recommendation to receive and file the Port of Long Beach Water System Transfer Update.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

UH, MAY I PLEASE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE? I SECOND THAT.

UH, AND IN ORDER FOR THE PRESENTATION, WE'VE GOT THE ILLUSTRIOUS .

I'M STILL HERE.

ELLIS, OUR PROJECT ENGINEER ELIZABETH, UH, SKA UNFORTUNATELY COULD NOT MAKE IT TODAY'S MEETING.

SO THERE MUST BE SOMETHING FUN GOING ON OUT WORLD.

YOU'RE MAKING WORK TODAY, SO WE'RE MISSING SOMETHING BY BEING HERE, THAT'S FOR SURE.

SO, UH, I'M GONNA BE PROVIDING AN UPDATE ON THE PORT OF LONG BEACH WATER SYSTEM TRANSFER.

UM, THIS HAS BEEN A MULTI-YEAR PROJECT.

IT'S BEEN A SPRAWLING PROJECT FOR US, BUT, UH, I'M GONNA START OFF WITH SOME BACKGROUND OF THE STUDY.

UH, BACK IN JANUARY OF 2020, UH, AN MOU WAS ENTERED BETWEEN THE BOARD OF AND WATER COMMISSIONERS AND THE BOARD OF HARBOR COMMISSIONERS, UH, REGARDING THE TRANSFER OF PORTIONS OF THE PORT WATER SYSTEM TO LBWD, NOW LBD, UH, AND THE MU ESTABLISHES A ROADMAP OF WHAT THAT TRANSFER WILL LOOK.

UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME HISTORICAL CONTEXT, UH, I STARTED WITH THE WATER DEPARTMENT BACK IN 2000, 2000.

CONVERSATIONS WERE ALREADY BEING HAD AT THAT TIME, UH, FOR A TRANSFER OF THE PORT WATER SYSTEM.

SO IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE NOW.

UH, SO BACK IN AUGUST OF 2021, UM, WE ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH HDR ENGINEERING TO PERFORM ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR THIS STUDY.

SO THE OBJECTIVE OF THE STUDY, UH, VERIFY AND UPDATE INFORMATION REGARDING THE PORT'S TRANSFERABLE SYSTEM.

SO THERE WAS A PREVIOUS STUDY DONE BACK IN 2008, 2009 TIMEFRAME, UH, WHICH DID IDENTIFY SOME TRANSFER ASSETS FROM THE PORT.

UH, THIS STUDY ACTUALLY VERIFIED THAT INFORMATION AND THEN SOME, UM, THE STUDY ALSO PERFORMED A COMPREHENSIVE ASSESSMENT OF THE PORT'S, UH, TRANSFERABLE SYSTEM.

UH, WE WANTED TO KNOW WHAT'S IN THE GROUND, WHAT DOES THE PORT HAVE, UM, DO THEY MEET OUR STANDARDS IN TERMS OF, UH, OPERATION CONSTRUCTABILITY AND SO FORTH.

WHAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF, UH, A PORTION THAT WOULD BE NON-TRANS? SO THERE ARE TENANT, UM, UH, AREAS WITHIN THE PORT WITH, UH, SPIDER WORK, SPIDER WEB, UH, PIPE NETWORK WITHIN THEIR OWN YARD BECAUSE THERE'S A MASTER METER.

OKAY.

SO ANYTHING BEYOND NOT BE TRANSFERRED.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, THE STUDY IS TO EVALUATE AND IDENTIFY SYSTEM DEFICIENCIES.

AGAIN, UH, THIS GOES BACK TO US WANTING TO KNOW WHAT'S IN THE GROUND, WHAT THE SUPPORT HAVE

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UM, AND, UH, THE END RESULT OF THE STUDY IS TO PROVIDE A COMPREHENSIVE, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AS WELL AS AN OPERATIONAL, OH, SORRY.

SO THESE ARE JUST PICTURES OF, UH, FLOW MONITORING INSTALLATION THAT WAS DONE DURING THE STUDY, AS WELL AS, UH, TESTING OF A EIGHT INCH BACKFLOW DEVICE.

REAL QUICK.

DDW, DEPARTMENT OF DRINKING WATER, DEPARTMENT OF DRINKING WATER.

CORRECT.

DO THEY, DOES THE PORT'S WATER SYSTEM NEED TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH DDW? NO.

, PARDON THE TIE .

THANKS, TY.

SO THE PORT IS CONSIDERED A LARGE CAMPUS, KIND OF LIKE, UM, LONG BEACH STATE, CAL STATE LONG BEACH.

AND SO THEY'RE UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND NOT NECESSARILY DDW, BUT DDW HAS LONG, HAS CONCERNS ABOUT THE PORT'S OPERATION, UM, BECAUSE THEY RUN IT LIKE, UH, INTERNAL PLUMBING AND NOT NECESSARILY LIKE A PUBLIC WATER SYSTEM.

THE REASON WHY THEY DON'T HAVE TO MEET DDW STANDARDS, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A PUBLIC WATER SYSTEM ID, THEY DON'T HAVE A PERMIT, THEY'RE LIKE A HOUSE.

THEY'RE JUST A REALLY, REALLY BIG HOUSE.

UM, AND SO, SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THOSE TYPE OF DRINKING WATER STANDARDS, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN COMPROMISES OVER TIME TO SAY, THERE ARE PEOPLE DRINKING THIS WATER, SO WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO DO CERTAIN MONITORING.

AND SO WE ASSIST WITH THAT SO THAT WE ENSURE THAT WE DO DO MICROBIAL MONITORING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GETTING CALLS FROM POSITIVES.

WE DO LOOK AT DISINFECTION BYPRODUCT MONITORING, SO WE'LL DO THE MONITORING FOR THEM.

THEY REIMBURSE US AND WE'LL HELP THEM SUBMIT THE REPORT TO THE STATE.

THE STATE DOESN'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF TEETH TO COME BACK.

UM, BUT THEY DO WANT TO REVIEW IT.

AND THAT DOES CREATE A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, OVERSIGHT FOR THE PORT SYSTEM.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE, THE, THE ROLE THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE TASKS, UH, THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED, UH, SINCE THE END OF 2025.

UH, I MENTIONED EARLIER THIS HAS BEEN A SPRAWLING PROJECT, UH, FOR US.

UH, AND IT COVERS EVERY ASPECT OF THE PORT WATER SYSTEM AND THEN SOME.

SO, UH, EXAMPLES INCLUDE SOIL CONTAMINATION ASSESSMENTS, AND WE HAVE A HYDRAULIC MODEL OF TECHNICAL MEMORANDUM.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE SURVEYED LOCATIONS WITH DISCREPANCIES, MEANING THAT THEIR GIS WILL SHOW A VALVE AT A CERTAIN LOCATION.

WE'VE GONE OUT, CAN'T FIND A VALVE, RIGHT.

UH, SO WE HAVE TO SEND SURVEYORS OUT TO TRY AND HELP US LOCATE THOSE VALVES.

UH, WE'VE DONE VALVE ASSESSMENTS, UH, METER PLACEMENT STRATEGY BECAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE ACCESS TO METERS, UH, IN ORDER, UH, OPERATE AND MAINTAIN.

UH, AND THAT ALSO IDENTIFIES, DEFINES THE LINE OF DEMARCATION AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE, UH, BACKFLOW, PREVENTOR ASSESSMENTS, AND OF COURSE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

THAT, THAT'S PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ITEM THAT WILL COME OUT OF THIS STUDY.

ROB, WAS THIS A STUDY PAID FOR BY US OR IS IT REIMBURSABLE BY THE PORT BY AGREEMENT OR, UM, THE PORT IS PAYING FOR, UH, PAYING FOR EVERYTHING.

OKAY.

SO HE CONTRACTED WITH HHDR, BUT THE PORT IS REIMBURSED? YES.

OR PAYING THANK.

OKAY.

I WISH I HAD A BETTER MAP.

BUT THIS SHOWS, UH, THIS IS FROM THE HDR, UH, PROPOSED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

IT SHOWS A TOTAL OF 17 DISTINCT, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE PORT AREA.

UM, THE PORT HAS SEEN THIS, UH, SO WE'RE CURRENTLY IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PORT AS FAR AS HOW TO IMPLEMENT.

UM, THE PLAN THAT HDR PROVIDED WAS A 10 YEAR PLAN, UH, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT ALSO POTENTIALLY EXPANDING THAT IN 15 OR 20 YEARS AS WELL.

UH, REAL QUICK, UH, PEER B IS ON THERE.

YES.

UH, IT PROBABLY TOO RECENT OF AN A DEVELOPMENT OR

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OH, I SEE.

OKAY.

IT'S STILL PART OF PEER B, UH, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S NORTH OF THIS PROPOSED PIPELINE.

GOTCHA.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO MAJOR FINDINGS OF THE STUDY.

UM, ONE OF THE BIGGER, YOU KNOW, ISSUES FOR US IS WATER QUALITY, UM, BECAUSE THERE'S LIMITED CIRCULATION AND HIGH WATER AGE AND LOW CHLORINE RESIDUALS, UH, WITHIN THE PORT WATER, BASICALLY THEY HAVE OVERSIZED PIPES WHERE WATER DOESN'T CIRCULATE, UH, APPROPRIATELY.

UH, FIRE FLOW CAPACITY.

UH, AND THIS IS BASED ON HYDRAULIC MODEL RESULTS.

UH, THERE ARE PORTIONS OF THE TRANSFER HYDRANTS THAT WOULD REQUIRE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, TO SATISFY OUR FIRE FLOW CRITERIA.

UH, RELOCATION DEMEANORS, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ACCESS, UH, AND CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS.

AND PIPELINE ACCESSIBILITY IS ANOTHER FACTOR.

UH, IF THERE SO HAPPENS TO BE A RAIN BREAKER OR A LEAK, WE DON'T WANNA HAVE TO WAIT AROUND FOR THE PORT TO MOVE 10, YOU KNOW, CARGO CONTAINERS BEFORE WE CAN GET TO OUR, AND WE CANNOT TAKE AN EASEMENT OUT BECAUSE WE'RE ALL ONE CITY.

SO THERE HAS TO BE SOME SORT OF ARRANGEMENT.

OR IF NOT, THEN MOVE THOSE METERS OUT AND WHATEVER'S ON TENANT PROPERTY.

SO THIS IS A SCREENSHOT OF WATER QUALITY TAKEN FROM THE HYDRAULIC MODEL.

UH, THE RED.SHOW, UH, ZERO CHLORINE.

SO THIS DIRECTLY RELATES TO WATER QUALITY.

AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, IT'S A PROBLEM THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PORT SYSTEM.

SO PROGRESS OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS.

UM, SO THE PORT BASICALLY HAS NEW MANAGEMENT NOW.

UH, THEY HAVE, UH, SINCE, UH, MARIO CORDELL RETIRED, UH, LATE LAST YEAR, UH, THERE'S A NEW CEO.

UH, THERE'S ALSO A NEW MANAGING, UH, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING, UH, THAT THOMAS HAS BEEN COURT.

UM, SO WE MET WITH THE NEW STAFF, UH, TO DISCUSS THE OVERVIEW OF THE STUDY.

UM, AND WE DID CONDUCT A SITE VISIT WITH, UH, THEIR STAFF.

AND THAT WAS BACK IN MARCH, UH, 31ST OF THIS YEAR.

UH, AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED, UH, CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR A PHASED APPROACH.

UM, AND SO WHAT WE PROPOSED WAS TO START WITH PROJECTS A ONE, B ONE AND BCD ONE.

AND THESE ARE THE PROJECTS ON THE NORTHERNMOST END OF THE PORT AREA IDENTIFIED IN THE SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS IS TOYOTA.

SO YOU HAVE PROBABLY THOUSANDS OF CARS, YOU KNOW, STORED IN THIS, UH, AREA RIGHT HERE.

UH, WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING, OR WHAT HDR HAS PROPOSED IS TO RUN A ANY TRANSMISSION MAIN AROUND TOYOTA SITE, UH, WITHIN PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, UH, TOWARDS HERE WHERE, UH, A BOOSTER STATION, UH, WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED.

NOW THE THOUGHT BEHIND THAT IS THE BOOSTER STATION WOULD IMPROVE WATER CIRCULATION AND POTENTIALLY IMPROVE WATER QUALITY.

I THINK, UH, THERE'S AN OPTION TO IN ALSO INCLUDE A CHLORINE BOOST THROUGHOUT THIS BOOSTER.

SO THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS IF YOU CONSTANTLY HAVE TO INJECT CHLORINE, YOU COULD RUN INTO BYPRODUCT PROBLEMS, RIGHT? THAT'S IMPACTING WATER QUALITY AS WELL.

UH, SO THIS NEEDS TO BE PROPERLY VETTED OUT.

UH, I THINK WE'RE WORKING WITH THE COURT RIGHT NOW, UH, JUST TO CONFIRM THAT.

UM, SO THIS IS THE INITIAL PROJECT THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED TO MOVE FORWARD.

UH, WAS THERE A CRITERIA TO, TO ASSIST WITH WHY THIS WAS CHOSEN OVER ANYTHING ELSE? ALL FOUR OF THE ONES THAT WERE

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CHECKS ALL THE BOXES.

OKAY.

SO PROJECTS A, B ONE, BC, D ONE.

UM, AGAIN, THESE PROJECTS WERE CHOSEN BECAUSE OF THE BOOSTER STATION AND THE POTENTIAL OF IMPROVING WATER QUALITY WITHIN THAT AREA.

UH, THE TOTAL COST COMES OUT TO JUST UNDER $50 MILLION.

NOW, THE SCOPE MAY CHANGE, UH, HOW THE PROJECTS LOOK MAY CHANGE AS WELL.

SO THIS IS JUST AN ESTIMATE.

UH, AND IT ALSO INCLUDES A VERY HEFTY AMOUNT OF CONTINGENCIES AS WELL.

RIGHT.

UM, THE THING ABOUT THE PORT IS CONTAMINATED SOIL IS POTENTIALLY A PROBLEM.

UH, WE DON'T KNOW WHEN, IF AND WHEN WE DO ENCOUNTER CONTAMINATE STA SOIL.

SO THAT IS A PRETTY LARGE CONTINGENCY WHEN IT COMES TO THESE ESTIMATES.

AGAIN, UH, THE SCOPE MAY CHANGE.

WE MAY DECIDE, OKAY, WE'LL CONCENTRATE ON PURE A AND PB FIRST, UH, BECAUSE THESE ARE MORE, YOU KNOW, THE WATER QUALITY ISSUES.

UM, AND PERHAPS DO BCD ONE AT A LATER TIME.

BUT AGAIN, THIS IS ALL OPEN TO DISCUSSION.

THAT CONCLUDES MY UPDATE, UH, COMMISSIONERS.

UM, I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT, UH, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TRY AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU.

UH, ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? ANY COMMISSION? YEAH.

UM, SO ULTIMATELY, WHO SET DOES THE PORT OF LONG BEACH SET THE PRIORITY WITH OUR INPUT? WHO HAS THE ABILITY TO MAKE THAT DECISION ABOUT WHAT GOES FIRST? WELL, IT'S, IT'S A JOINT DECISION, BASICALLY.

OKAY.

US AND THE PORT.

AND HOW IS THAT GOING? I, I CAN CLAR PERHAPS CHIME IN.

UH, WE'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE PORT REGULARLY, UH, UH, BASICALLY EVERY TWO WEEKS OR SO.

WE'VE BEEN, I'VE MET WITH THEM LAST WEEK AS WELL.

UH, IT'S BEEN PROGRESSING VERY WELL, UH, TO GET TO THIS POINT, ACTUALLY.

TOOK, TOOK QUITE A BIT, UM, TO BE HONEST.

AND, UH, AT THIS POINT THEY PROPOSED SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE PLAN THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

UH, WE HAVE SHARED WITH THEM THAT WE HAVE CONCERNS OF THE PLAN OR THE MODIFICATION THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

THEY'VE ASKED US TO GO BACK AND DO SOME HYDRAULIC MODELING, BUT YOU KNOW, WE, WE ARE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS, AT LEAST THE FACT THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, UM, SAYING IS A GOOD COMMUNICATION STRATEGY.

SO THE GOAL FOR US IS TO BRING, UM, AN AMENDMENT TO THE BOARD, UH, BY SEPTEMBER, UH, LISTING THE PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE, UH, IMPLEMENTING.

SO THE MOU STIPULATES THAT ONCE STAFF GETS TO A POINT WHERE SPECIFIC PROJECTS ARE SELECTED, DO WE HAVE TO BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR FINAL APPROVAL? UM, SO BETWEEN NOW AND SEPTEMBER, OUR GOAL IS TO VET OUT ALL THESE PROJECTS THAT NEEDS TO BE IMPLEMENTED AND BRING IT TO THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL.

UH, ONCE OUR BOARD APPROVE, IT'LL GO TO THEIR BOARD FOR FINAL APPROVAL AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY'LL BE, UM, YOU KNOW, TIED WITH SOME EXPENDITURES AT THAT POINT.

SO THE BOARD IS, DO THEY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON? HAVE THEY SEEN ANY OF THESE NUMBERS YET? THEIR GENERAL MANAGER, THEIR, UM, CEO IS AWARE OF IT.

UM, THEY'VE NOT THE BOARD, THE BOARD, I'M NOT SURE.

UH, YEAH, BUT THEIR GENERAL MANAGER IS AWARE OF IT.

WE HAVE, UH, INFORMED THEM THAT WE WERE GOING TO PRESENT THIS ITEM TO YOU TODAY SO THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE AWARE AND OF THE STATUS.

UH, BUT WE DO ENCOURAGE THEM TO, YOU KNOW, UPDATE THEIR BOARD AND, AND, AND SO FORTH.

WE'VE SHARED THIS INFORMATION WITH THEIR, UH, CEO SEVERAL TIMES.

WERE THEY SURPRISED BY THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS AS WELL AS THE TOTAL ESTIMATE? I, I THINK IT WASN'T THE SURPRISE TO THEM BECAUSE I THINK THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS OR SO.

UH, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IN, IN STRATEGY THAT WE ARE IMPLEMENTING NOW IS WE'RE TAKING MORE OF A PHASED APPROACH, UM, BASICALLY TACKLING WATER QUALITY FIRST.

UM, AND THEN WE'LL BE, YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH THEIR HYDRAULIC CHALLENGES, FIRE FLOW CHALLENGES IN SOME OF THESE AREAS.

UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES IS THAT THE PORT IS, THE PIPELINE SYSTEM IS CONSTRUCTED LIKE BASICALLY A TREE AND, YOU KNOW, A WATER SYSTEM, YOU WANT IT TO BE LOOPED SO THAT THE WATER IS CIRCULATING ALL THE TIME.

UH, THE WORST THING YOU CAN DO TO

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SO WHAT, WHAT ALL OF THESE PROJECTS ARE PROPOSING IS BASICALLY TO LOOP THE SYSTEM IN AND HAVE WATER CIRCULATION.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO EDUCATE, UH, THE PORT AS WELL AS TO WHAT TYPE OF BENEFIT THEY WILL HAVE AND, AND START WITH PROJECTS THAT THEY COULD EASILY BENEFIT WITH FIRST AND THEN WORK OUR WAY.

UH, BUT WE'VE ALREADY INTERNALLY ESTABLISHED A DEADLINE AMONGST STAFF WITH THE PORT STAFF AS WELL AS OUR STAFFERS, UH, AS WELL TO BRING THIS ITEM TO THE BOARD BY SEPTEMBER.

UH, SO THEY, THEY'RE NOT AS SURPRISED BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SOMETHING IN THE WORKS FOR A LONG TIME.

DO THEY USE A LOT OF WATER? UM, THEY DON'T USE A LOT OF POTABLE WATER.

THEY DO FLUSH A LOT OF WATER.

UH, AND THAT'S PART OF OUR CONCERN RIGHT NOW FOR THEM TO KEEP THE WA THEIR WATER QUALITY SOMEWHAT INTACT, IS FOR THEM TO JUST FLUSH THE WATER SO THAT THE WATER CAN KEEP CIRCULATING.

THEY HAVE OVERSIZED PIPES THAT AT THAT TIME WAS MEANT FOR, YOU KNOW, FIRE FLOW, BUT IT'S NOT CIRCULATING.

SO THEY, THEY CONTINUOUSLY HAVE TO FLUSH A, AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF WATER, AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE ADVISING THEM.

HEY, LET'S LOOP IT IN SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE WATER CIRCULATING.

AND IF IT IS NOT USED AT PIER A, IT COULD BE USED AT PB SO THAT IT CAN HAVE SOME FORM OF MOVEMENT.

UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BECAUSE OF THE FINANCIAL COMMITMENT.

OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE HESITANT, RIGHT? UH, SO WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT MORE PALATABLE AND MORE PHASED AND, YOU KNOW, ONCE THEY SEE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO FLUSH AS MUCH WATER, PERHAPS THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, BENEFIT FROM, FROM THESE PROJECTS.

YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU THOMAS.

THOMAS, ON THE ITEM THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING TO BRING TO US IN SEPTEMBER, UH, WILL THAT JUST BE PHASE A OF A NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL PHASES? UH, THAT WOULD BE, FOR EXAMPLE, OUT OF THE 17 PROJECTS ROB SHOWED, UH, WE WOULD PROBABLY BE BRINGING TO THE BOARD MAYBE THREE OR FOUR OF THEM WITH A COMMITMENT FROM THE PORT THAT THEY WILL BE PAYING FOR THOSE ITEMS. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE MAYBE ASKING TOO MUCH? UM, I RETRACT THE QUESTION , UH, SEE WHAT OTHER QUESTIONS DID I HAVE? UH, THE, THE A ONE B ONE, ECD ONE, WOULD THAT BE PHASE ONE, ESSENTIALLY? CORRECT.

DOES THAT INCLUDE, UM, UH, EARTH 55, PLACES LIKE THAT? UH, RESTAURANTS THAT, THOSE ARE FURTHER SOUTH, UM, SOUTH AND EAST.

OKAY.

SOUTH AND EAST.

SO WHAT, UH, WHAT, WHAT USERS OF POTABLE WATER, UH, DRINKING WATER ARE THERE IN THIS, IN THIS FIRST PHASE? SO THE TE THE TENANTS ON PRB WHERE YOU HAVE THE TOYOTA CENTER, UH, THOUGH THEY HAVE A FEW FACILITIES THERE, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE ARE HOPING, UH, TO GET OUT OF THIS IS ONCE WE GET A CHLORINE BOOSTER IN THE SYSTEM, WE ARE HOPING THAT THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMEWHAT TRANSLATE DOWNSTREAM AS WELL.

UM, HAVING THE WATER CIRCULATE IN SOME CAPACITY WILL BE BENEFICIAL ALL OVER, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PORT TO SOME CAPACITY.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S THIS, THIS PROJECT SPECIFICALLY, UH, DO NOT, UH, TARGET, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN USERS OR CERTAIN USER USE, UH, GROUPS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THE PORT EXTENSIVELY ON, BUT AT FIRST WE JUST HAVE TO GET THE WATER CIRCULATING.

UH, THAT'S, THAT'S OUR GOAL.

AND I UNDERSTAND, UH, PRIORITIZING CERTAIN USERS OVER OTHERS CAN BE PROBLEMATIC.

UH, I JUST THINK OF, UH, HIGH POTABLE WATER USERS, LIKE A, LIKE A RESTAURANT, UH, FIRE STATIONS, UM, THAT ARE MANNED 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 3, 6, 5 DAYS A YEAR.

UM, FOLKS DRINKING, YOU KNOW, STRAIGHT OUT OF THE FAUCET.

THOSE ARE THE, THE DRINKING WATER FOLKS THAT I'M MOST CONCERNED ABOUT THE LONGEST TERM CONCERN OVER.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE, THE PORT FLUSHING, UH, HAS, HAS APPARENTLY BEEN SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD SERIOUS HEALTH ISSUES COME OUTTA THOSE PLACES.

UH, I'M, I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR THAT HAPPENING.

UM, WONDERING IF THERE'S A WAY TO PRIORITIZE THOSE FACILITIES SOMEHOW ON THE, ON THE MATRIX.

UM, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WHILE YES TOYOTA, I'M SURE THERE'S PEOPLE THAT, THAT DRINK OUT OF THE F THERE, BUT I THINK THE NUMBER OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY EXTREMELY LOW VERSUS A RESTAURANT OR A FIRE STATION.

THANK YOU.

AND WE'LL MAKE A, A NOTE OF THAT.

AND WE'VE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED THAT AS WELL.

UM, THESE ARE THE INITIAL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE NEED IN PLACE SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THOSE MODIFICATIONS AS WELL.

UM, SO THANK YOU AND WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE A NOTE OF THAT.

I'M, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF ANY MOVEMENT FORWARD.

SO WHEREVER, WHEREVER YOU CHOSE TO, TO

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UM, BUT UH, YEAH, IN THE FUTURE, BEYOND THIS FIRST PHASE, I'D BE INTERESTED IN SEEING A LITTLE BIT OF HIGHER PRIORITY PLACED ON ON ANYTHING ELSE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY FINAL COMMENTS? UH, NO FINAL COMMENTS, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, .

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU ROB.

I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND STANDING IN AND KEVIN AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

UM, SEE WE'VE GOT A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.

UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

NONE OPPOSED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD

[PUBLIC COMMENT]

IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SHARE OR COMMENT ON A NON AGENDA ITEM? SEEING NONE COMMENT, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS NOW CLOSED.

UH,

[ANNOUNCEMENTS]

THOMAS, DO YOU HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? UH, NO ANNOUNCEMENTS.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, UM, IN THAT CASE, THIS MEETING IS NOW ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU EVERYONE.