Jun 30, 2026 Cultural Heritage Commission

AND PUBLIC COMMENT IS OPEN UNTIL FRIDAY, JULY 31ST AND CAN BE SUBMITTED TO THE EMAIL ADDRESS, UH, CULTURAL HERITAGE@LONGBEACH.GOV.

I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE STAFF FOR THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.

GOOD EVENING, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.

UH, WE HAVE ONE ITEM TO HIGHLIGHT FOR THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT THIS EVENING, AND THAT'S THAT STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS THAT ARE CONSTRUCTED ON HIS HISTORIC PROPERTIES.

UM, THAT'S AN EFFORT THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A WHILE NOW ON THE STAFF SIDE, AND WE'RE PLEASED TO LET THE COMMISSION AND THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT A DRAFT OF THE A DU OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR HISTORIC RESOURCES IS AVAILABLE ON THE CITY WEBSITE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

THE LINK TO THE DRAFT IS POSTED, UH, IN THIS EVENING'S AGENDA UNDER THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.

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SO THE DRAFT ADU OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS, UM, FOR HISTORIC RESOURCES ARE OBJECTIVE STANDARDS FOR DEVELOPING COMPATIBLE ADUS IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS AND ON PROPERTIES WITH HISTORIC RESOURCES.

SO THE INTENT IS TO GIVE PROPERTY OWNERS, RESIDENTS, AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS CLEAR AND CONSISTENT INSTRUCTIONS ON DESIGNING COMPATIBLE ADUS IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS AND TO ENSURE THAT THE STANDARDS ARE FIXED, UNIFORM, AND APPLICABLE TO ALL A DU PROJECTS AS IS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW FOR ADUS.

SO THE PURPOSE REALLY IS TO BALANCE THE CITY'S IMPORTANT GOALS FOR HOUSING PRODUCTION AND PRESERVING HISTORIC RESOURCES.

SO YOU'LL SEE IN THOSE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS, UM, THEY ADDRESS A DU HEIGHT PLACEMENT ON THE LOT, ROOF FORMS AND MATERIALS AMONG OTHER TOPICS, AND ULTIMATELY, THOSE STANDARDS WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO A LOCAL A DU ORDINANCE FOR CONSIDERATION FOR ADOPTION LATER THIS YEAR.

SO THAT'S JUST A BRIEF SUMMARY.

THIS ITEM IS NOT IZED FOR DISCUSSION THIS EVENING.

THIS IS AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM TO LET THE COMMISSION AND THE PUBLIC KNOW ABOUT THE AVAILABILITY OF THE DRAFT AND THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, THROUGH THAT EMAIL ADDRESS ON THE CITY WEBSITE.

WE'LL COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION WITH AN AGENDAS STUDY SESSION ON THE DRAFT A DU OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS IN JULY, UM, WHERE THERE WILL BE A STAFF PRESENTATION TIME FOR THE COMMISSION QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION AND OPPORTUNITY FOR A VERBAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO THAT STUDY SESSION WILL BE AT THE NEXT REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING ON TUESDAY, JULY 28TH AT 5:00 PM AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT STUDY SESSION AND TO HEARING YOUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AT THAT TIME.

THIS CONCLUDES THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT? VICE CHAIR RUFI HAS A QUESTION.

UM, UH, WHEN ARE WE THE DESIGN STANDARDS EXPECTED TO GO INTO EFFECT? SO THE DESIGN STANDARDS WOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO A LOCAL A DU ORDINANCE SO THAT A DU ORDINANCE WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH AN ADOPTION PROCESS WITH HEARINGS IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL AND, UH, IN FRONT OF PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THEN ULTIMATELY CITY COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION BEFORE IT WOULD GO INTO EFFECT.

AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT BEING LATER IN THE YEAR.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE STAFF REPORT? IF THERE ARE NONE, WE'LL NOW TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.

ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT, PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM IF THERE ARE NONE VIRTUALLY.

IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FEATURE.

IF DIALING IN TELEPHONICALLY, PRESS STAR NINE NOW.

THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.

TERRIFIC.

UH, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL FOR THE VOTE.

TWO IS A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE CULTURAL HERITAGE COMMISSION MEETING OF TUESDAY, MAY 26.

THANK YOU MADAM CLERK, PLEASE READ ITEM NUMBER TWO.

ITEM NUMBER

[2. 26-55519 Recommendation to approve the minutes for the Cultural Heritage Commission meeting of Tuesday, May 26, 2026. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

2026.

UH, COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE A, A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER PADILLA PEREZ AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HUNTER.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE MINUTES FOR THE MEETING? IF THERE ARE NONE, UH, WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING THE MINUTES FROM LAST MONTH'S MEETING? PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM IF THERE ARE NONE VIRTUALLY.

IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FEATURE.

IF DIALING IN TELEPHONICALLY, PRESS STAR NINE NOW.

SEEING NONE THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.

FOR THIS ITEM, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL FOR THE VOTE.

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READ, UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE, UH, COMMISSIONER PESOS HAS REQUESTED TO EXCUSE HIMSELF ON THIS ITEM.

BEFORE WE

[3. 26-55529 Recommendation to accept Categorical Exemption CE26-028, finding the proposed project exempt from the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) pursuant to CEQA Guidelines Sections 15301 (l) Existing Facilities and 15303 (e) New Construction or Conversion of Small Structures; and Approve a Certificate of Appropriateness (COAC26-001) at 2919 East 1st Street, to demolish an existing 491-square-foot two-car garage in order to construct a new 476-square-foot pool and to construct one (1) detached one-story 552-square-foot garage. A one (1) one-story 759-square-foot Accessory Dwelling Unit (ADU) which is proposed to be attached to the new garage was approved administratively as required by state law. The property is located within the Bluff Park Historic District and is developed with an existing single-family residence in the R-2-L (Two-Family Residential, Large Lot) Zoning District (District 2). Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

YES.

BEFORE WE GET STARTED, UM, IN THE INTEREST OF CAUTION AND APPEARANCES, I WOULD LIKE TO RECUSE MYSELF BASED ON THE CLOSE PROXIMITY OF THE APPLICANT TO MY PERSONAL PROPERTY AND ADJACENT RESIDENCE.

COMMISSIONER PIEZO.

MADAM CLERK, PLEASE READ ITEM NUMBER THREE.

ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A RECOMMENDATION TO ACCEPT CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION, CE 26 DASH 0 2 8, FINDING THE PROPOSED PROJECT EXEMPT FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT PURSUANT TO CA GUIDELINES SECTIONS 15 3 0 1 EXISTING FACILITIES AND 15 303 NEW CONSTRUCTION OR CONVERSION OF SMALL STRUCTURES.

AND APPROVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS AT 2 9 1 9 EAST FIRST STREET TO DEMOLISH AN EXISTING 491 SQUARE FOOT TWO CAR GARAGE IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT A NEW 476 SQUARE FOOT POOL.

AND TO CONSTRUCT ONE DETACHED, ONE STORY 552 SQUARE FOOT GARAGE, A ONE STORY, A ONE ONE STORY, 759 SQUARE FOOT ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT, WHICH IS PROPOSED TO BE ATTACHED TO THE NEW GARAGE, WAS APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY AS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE BLUFF PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT AND IS DEVELOPED WITH, UH, IS DEVELOPED WITHIN AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE IN THE R DASH TWO DASH L ZONING DISTRICT, DISTRICT TWO.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THIS ITEM? IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER HUNTER AND SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR SAFI.

GARAGE IN RELATION TO THE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING.

I'LL TURN THIS ITEM OVER TO STAFF FOR THE PRESENTATION.

PROJECT PLANNER GOPI SHAW WILL PROVIDE THIS PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU ALLISON.

UM, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS, UH, BEFORE YOU AS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS REQUEST TO DEMOLISH AN EXISTING 491 SQUARE FOOT TWO CAR GARAGE IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT A NEW 476 SQUARE FOOT POOL AND CONSTRUCT A NEW DETACHED 552 SQUARE FOOT TWO CAR GARAGE ATTACHED TO A ONE STORY 759 SQUARE FOOT ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.

THE A DU WAS SUBMITTED AS A SEPARATE MINOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS AND WAS APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY A MAY 4TH DUE TO STATE LAW.

THE A DU WILL BE SHOWN FOR CONTEXT ONLY AND COMMISSIONERS ARE HERE TO REVIEW THE DEMOLITION AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW GARAGE SINCE IT IS OVER 250 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS NOTED ON THIS SIDE WITH THE RED STAR.

THE SITE IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF EAST FIRST STREET BETWEEN TEMPLE AVENUE AND ORA AVENUE IN THE BLUFF PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT.

THE LOT IS APPROXIMATELY 8,250 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE AND IS DEVELOPED WITH ONE TWO STORY 3019 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING IN THE CRAFTSMAN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE AND ONE DETACHED 476 SQUARE FOOT GARAGE.

THE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING IS CONSIDERED A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE WITHIN THE BLUFF PARK.

HISTORIC DISTRICT IS LOCATED IN THE R TWO L ZONING DISTRICT AND HAS A GENERAL PLAN PLACE TYPE OF FOUNDING AND CONTEMPORARY NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE PROJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE COASTAL ZONE.

THIS SLIDE DISPLAYS THE EXISTING SITE LAYOUT OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WITH THE PROPERTY LINES HIGHLIGHTED IN RED.

YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING IN THE DETACHED GARAGE TO BE DEMOLISHED FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT.

HERE ARE THE CURRENT CONDITIONS OF THE CRAFTSMAN SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING.

THE PHOTOS DEPICT THE EXTERIOR ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES OF CRAFTSMAN HOME WITH COMMON RED BRICK AND WOOD SHAKE, SHINGLE SIDING, EXPOSE RAFTER TAILS AND BEAMS, WIDE OPEN OVERHANGING EAVES, A GABLE PORCH ROOF, LARGE FRONT PORCH, AND A WIDELY PROPORTION FRONT ENTRYWAY DOOR.

THE ORDINANCE ESTABLISHED ESTABLISHING, UH, THE BLUFF PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT IN 1982 DOES NOT INCLUDE A SPECIFIC LIST OF CONTRIBUTORS AND NON CONTRIBUTORS TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

THE 1990 ORDINANCE EXPANDING THE HISTORIC DISTRICT ONLY FOCUSES ON CONTRIBUTING PROPERTIES WITHIN THE EXPANSION AREA.

HOWEVER, THE PROPERTIES IDENTIFIED AS A CONTRIBUTOR TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

IN A SURVEY DATED JULY, 2002, THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING WAS CONSTRUCTED DURING THE PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE IS WELL PRESERVED AND RETAINS MOST OF ITS ORIGINAL CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURES.

NO WORK IS PROPOSED FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING.

PLEASE NOTE, THE TOP OF THE EXISTING GARAGE CAN BE SEEN FROM EAST FIRST STREET IN THE PHOTO ON THE LEFT BEHIND THE REDWOOD GATE SPANNING THE WIDTH OF THE DRIVEWAY.

THESE SH THESE PHOTOS SHOW THE EXISTING

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THE 2002 SURVEY STATING THAT THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE ON THE PROPERTY IS A CONTRIBUTOR, DOES NOT INCLUDE AN EVALUATION OF ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.

THE GARAGE FEATURES A STUCCO CLOUD, EXTERIOR METAL GARAGE DOOR AND SIDE ENTRY DOOR AND TRANSOM WINDOW.

ASSESSOR RECORDS INDICATE THEIR ORIGINAL GARAGE WAS BUILT IN 1915, WAS ONLY 342 SQUARE FEET AND WAS CLAD AND WOOD SHAKE SHINGLES TO MATCH THE TWO STORY SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING.

THE CURRENT GARAGE IS 491 SQUARE FEET AND WAS THUS EXPANDED UPON BY 149 SQUARE FEET, RENTING THE GARAGE DOOR TO BE OFF CENTERED.

IT WAS CLAD AND STECCO, WHICH IS DO MATCHED THE P ORIGINAL PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE OF WOOD SHAKE ON THE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING, AND IT WAS ALTERED BY INSTALLING A METAL GARAGE DOOR.

NO RECORDS WERE FOUND FOR THE GARAGE DOOR, UM, THE GARAGE EXPANSION OR ALTERATION.

THEREFORE, STAFF HAS CONCLUDED THAT THE CURRENT GARAGE IS NOT ORIGINAL, DOES NOT RETAIN INTEGRITY FROM THE PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND IS NOT A CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURE OF THE PROPERTY.

THE DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING 491 SQUARE FOOT GARAGE WILL NOT REMOVE OR ALTER HISTORIC MATERIALS OR CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURES OF THE PROPERTY.

IN THIS SLIDE, YOU'LL FIND THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.

THE EXISTING GARAGE PROPOSED TO BE DEMOLISHES IN PURPLE.

THE PROPOSED POOL IS IN BLUE, THE PROPOSED GARAGE IS IN RED, AND THE APPROVED A D IS IN GREEN.

THE POOL IN THE GARAGE COMPLIES WITH ALL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS INCLUDING TURNING RADIUS SIZE, SETBACKS, AND HEIGHT.

THE PROPERTY HAS AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY WITH ACCESS FROM EAST FIRST STREET, WHICH WILL BE RETAINED TO PROVIDE VISUAL CONTINUITY WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

HOWEVER, THE NEW GARAGE WILL TAKE ACCESS FROM THE ALLEY EAST DODGE WAY.

THE PROPOSED GARAGE MEETS THE DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICT IN TERMS OF PLACING DETACHED GARAGES TOWARDS THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY AND BEING ACCESSED BY A REAR ALLEY.

A REDWOOD GATE ACROSS THE DRIVEWAY ADDS PRIVACY AND SCREENINGS.

SO THE PROPOSED POOL AND GARAGE ARE NOT VISIBLE FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

HERE YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED FLOOR PLAN.

THE EXISTING GARAGE SHOULD BE DEMOLISHED AS IN PURPLE.

THE PROPOSED GARAGE IS IN RED AND THE APPROVED A DU IS IN GREEN.

THE NEW GARAGE IS 552 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE AND LARGE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE TWO STANDARD PARKING SPACES.

THE GARAGE WILL ALSO HAVE A WASHER DRYER, TWO EV CHARGERS SPACE FOR SPACE FOR TRASH AND RECYCLING BINS FOR BOTH UNITS AND SOME STORAGE CABINETS.

IN GREEN, YOU CAN SEE THEY APPROVED 759 SQUARE FOOT, ONE BEDROOM, ONE BATH, A DU ATTACHED TO THE EAST OF THE GARAGE.

THE A DU APPROVAL IS NOT SUBJECT TO CHC DISCRETION AND THEREFORE IS NOT THE SUBJECT OF THIS HEARING.

HOWEVER, GIVEN THAT THE A DU IS PROPOSED TO BE ATTACHED TO THE GARAGE, THESE DETAILS ARE BEING PROVIDED AS BACKGROUND INFORMATION.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS AND ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS OF THE DETACHED GARAGE IN A DU.

THE GARAGE EXTERIORS ARE OUTLINED IN RED.

THE NEW GARAGE WILL FEATURE A SINGLE LIGHT FIBERGLASS FRENCH DOOR AND TWO DOUBLE HUNG FIBERGLASS WINDOWS WITH WIDE WINDOWS SURROUNDS TO THE SOUTH FACING THE COMMON COURTYARD, FOUR CRAFTSMEN STYLE SCONCES AND A WOODEN 18 FOOT WIDTH ROLL-UP GARAGE DOOR.

FACING THE ALLEY.

THE PROPOSED GARAGE WILL BE SLIGHTLY LOWER IN HEIGHT, STANDING AT 13 FEET EIGHT INCHES IN HEIGHT AS MEASURED FROM THE PEAK COMPARED TO THE EXISTING 14 FEET TWO INCHES.

FIRST STORY OF THE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING.

THE PITCH OF THE PROPOSED GARAGE IS LOW, HOWEVER, IS SLIGHTLY HIGHER AT FOUR AND A HALF ON 12 THAN THE TWO STORY SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING AT THREE ON 12.

THE GARAGE WILL BE CLAD IN FIVE AND ONE FOURTH HARDY PLANK SIDING WITH FOUR INCH EXPOSURE AND FLAT CORNER TRIM CONSISTENT WITH CRAFTSMAN GUIDELINES AND PAINTED TO MATCH THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY.

THE ROOF WILL BE CLAD IN COMPOSITION SHINGLE IN A BIRCHWOOD LIGHT GRAY COLOR WITH EXPOSED RAFTER TAILS.

THE PROPOSED GARAGE BLENDS IN HARMONIOUSLY WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING, BUT DOESN'T PROVIDE A FALSE SENSE OF HISTORY DUE TO THE HARDY PLANK SIDING AND LOWERED HEIGHT.

THE PROPOSED PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES THE CONSTRUCTION OF A 476 SQUARE FOOT POOL TO BE LOCATED BETWEEN THE PRIMARY BUILDING AND THE PROPOSED GARAGE, NOT VISIBLE FROM THE STREET.

THE GARAGE AND POOL MEET ZONING, RE UH, ZONING REGULATIONS IN TERMS OF SIZE, EAVES HEIGHT AND SETBACKS IS CONSISTENT WITH DESIGN GUIDELINES AND IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING BLUFF PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT.

IN THIS SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE THE PROPOSED ROOF PLAN IS IN LINE WITH THE APPROVED A DU AND MEETS ALL ZONING REGULATIONS.

IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

THE PROJECT MEETS ALL SETBACKS, HEIGHT LIMITS, LOCK COVERAGE, OPEN SPACE, ALLOWABLE U UNIT NUMBERS AND PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

THIS REFERENCE TABLE IS ALSO IN THE STAFF REPORT AS PROPOSED AND CONDITIONED.

THE POOL AND GARAGE WILL NOT DETRACT FROM THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THE EXISTING BUILDING ON SITE.

THE PROPOSED PROJECT WILL BE CONSISTENT AND IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR THE R TWO L ZONING

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DISTRICT.

THE BLUFF PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGN GUIDELINES, THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARDS, THE BLUFF PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT ORDINANCE, CRAFTSMAN STYLE GUIDE, AND THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FINDINGS.

THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ON THE PROJECT WILL ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH ZONING REGULATIONS, DESIGN GUIDELINES, AND ARCHITECTURAL COMPATIBILITY.

NOTICING OF THE HEARING WAS COMPLETED IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 2121 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE.

AS OF THE STATE STAFF HAS RECEIVED ONE LETTER IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT WITH THE AFFIRMATIVE AFFIRMATION FINDINGS, STAFF FI UH, RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS REQUEST SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.

THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION STAFF AND THE APPLICANT, BILL DELLINGER AND JOE ZEBA ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU GOBY FOR THAT REPORT.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PRESENTATION? IF THERE ARE NONE, I I ACTUALLY HAVE JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON THE, UM, THE PREVIOUS, UH, COMMISSIONER PRYOR ON THE PREVIOUS GARAGE, UM, THAT HAD AN ENTRANCE FROM THE FRONT OR THE BACK, AND THEN IT'S THE NEW GARAGE HAS AN ENTRANCE FROM THE BACK, RIGHT? LIKE THE ALLEY OR SOMETHING? IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, SO THE ORIGINAL GARAGE TAKES ACCESS FROM EAST FIRST STREET, SO THEY HAVE A GARAGE DOOR, UM, FACING THE FRONT OF, UM, LIKE FACING THE STREET.

UM, AND THAT WAS CONSISTENT WITH HISTORIC, UM, UH, LIKE BUILDING IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

UM, THE NEW GARAGE DOES TAKE ACCESS FROM, UM, THE ALLEY.

UM, AND THAT'S MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR THIS DISTRICT, UM, STATING THAT GARAGES SHOULD BE IN THE REAR AND SHOULD TAKE ACCESS FROM THE ALLEY COMMISSIONERS.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS REPORT? IF NOT, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE A LETTER SENT BY THE BLUFF PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT IS THE APPLICANT HERE THIS EVENING.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO APPROACH AND GIVE US YOUR, YOUR IDEA OF WHAT YOU WANNA ACCOMPLISH HERE, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

HI, BILL DELLINGER.

AND, UM, AND WHAT WAS THE SECOND? I'M SORRY FOR THE RECORD ADDRESS? UH, 9 5 5 4 EAST PRICHARD BELLFLOWER, CALIFORNIA.

ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD REGARDING THE, THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT? UH, SO THE, UM, THE INTENT WAS TO, UH, SATISFY THE DESIGN, UH, REQUEST FROM THE CLIENT, WHICH WAS THEY WANTED TO PULL, UH, AND THE GARAGE WAS ESSENTIALLY UNUSABLE WITH THE NARROW DRIVEWAY FROM THE, UM, STREET FACING ACCESS AND AN A DU.

SO WE, UM, DESIGNED WHAT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT YOU SAW THERE, WHICH SATISFIES ALL THOSE CRITERIA.

AND, UH, THE GETS THE POOL TO THE, UM, THE LOCATION ON THE LOT, WHICH MAKES THE MOST SENSE.

UM, IT'S A, UM, KIND OF A SHADY, UM, BACKYARD, SO WE WERE TRYING TO LOCATE THAT, UH, SUCH THAT IT WOULD BE IN THE, THE MOST SUN.

UM, BUT YEAH, NO, UH, UH, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING REALLY ADDITIONAL TO ADD.

UM, AGAIN, THANK YOU, UM, FOR THIS REPORT.

IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS OR FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS PROJECT.

MM-HMM .

YOU COULD SIT, BE SITED.

SO, CHAIR, ARE YOU CALLING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AS WELL AT THIS TIME? YEAH, I'M CALLING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IN PERSON.

YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND, UH, GO TO THE PODIUM.

YOUR TIME WILL START.

AS AN ASSOCIATION REALLY APPRECIATE AS THE STAFF KNOWS, UH, BEING ENGAGED, UM, EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS, UM, GOBI WAS REALLY HELPFUL IN, UM, CONNECTING US WITH THE HOMEOWNERS WHO WE HAVE KNOWN INTERMITTENTLY SINCE THEY RECENTLY MOVED INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS AN ASSOCIATION.

GOOD EVENING, HONOR BOARD COMMISSIONERS AND, UM, AND, UH, PLANNING STAFF.

UM, MY NAME IS JEFF MALLON.

I COME HERE AS A REPRESENTATIVE AS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION FOR THE BLUFF PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

AND AS, AS YOU MENTIONED, CHAIRMAN MAGU, WE SUBMITTED A LETTER FULLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS, UM, PROJECT.

AND, UM, THE LETTER IS RATHER SIMPLE BECAUSE I THINK THE PROJECT IS RATHER, UM, SIMPLE IN OUR MINDS AND IT, UM, AS STAFF AS, UM, UH, HAD SAID IT CONFORMS WELL TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES AND OUR ORDINANCE.

UM, WE

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UM, UH, WE SOMETIMES HAVE THAT CONTACT DIRECTLY FROM ARCHITECTS, UM, WHICH WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE SINCE WE BELIEVE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.

ORGANIZED ASSOCIATIONS ARE KEY STAKEHOLDERS IN, IN THIS PROCESS, UM, IN TRYING TO, UM, HAVE THE SAME GOALS AS, UM, BOTH THE HOMEOWNER AND THE CITY IN RETAINING THE HISTORIC, UM, INTEGRITY OF THE DISTRICT.

THE FACT THAT THIS IS A, UM, THAT THE, UM, UH, THAT THE GARAGE IS NOT, UM, REPLACING A HISTORIC, UH, HISTORICALLY ACCURATE OR HISTORICALLY CONTRIBUTING ASPECT TO THE PROPERTY IS IMPORTANT.

I KNOW LAST MONTH, UM, YOU DENIED A PROJECT BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY TOOK AWAY A, A HISTORIC GARAGE.

WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE CASE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

AT LEAST THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

UM, WE ALSO APPRECIATE THAT, UM, THE, THE SIZE AND SCALE OF THIS, UM, OF THE, UM, GARAGE AND THE A DU, ALTHOUGH I KNOW THAT WAS STERILY APPROVED AND IS NOT FOR CURRENT DISCUSSION, BUT IT'S NICE TO SEE THAT BOTH OF THOSE ARE SINGLE STORY WILL NOT BE, UM, VISIBLE FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY OR FROM THE SIDES OF THE STREET, WHICH SOME, UH, FROM THE SIDES OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH SOMETIMES DOES HAPPEN, UM, WHERE IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY VISIBLE BOTH ABOVE AND ON THE SIDES, THAT WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE CASE HERE.

WE ALSO REALLY APPRECIATE, UM, THAT, UM, THE, THE RETENTION OF THE DRIVEWAY AND THE CURB CUT HAVE, UH, WILL REMAIN, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY BE MENTIONED THAT THERE MAY BE SOME PROPERTIES THAT ACCESS THE ALLEY.

THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT HISTORICALLY HAS ACCESS FIRST STREET AND SHOULD CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT ACCESS.

SO WE DO BELIEVE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE DRIVEWAY AND CURB BOY CUT, UM, REMAIN INTACT, WHICH IT IS.

UM, WE FEEL THAT ALSO THAT THERE'S NO IMPACT ON THE PRIMARY HOME, WHICH IS ALSO, UM, NICELY REASSURING, UM, AND AN ADDIT AS AN ADDITIONAL POSITIVE IN SPEAKING WITH THE HOMEOWNERS.

UM, UH, BRIAN AND SAMANTHA MADRID, WHO WE'VE DEVELOPED AS AN ASSOCIATION OF GOOD RELATIONSHIP OVER THIS PROJECT, UM, THEY HAVE JUST, UM, DECIDED THAT, UM, ONE OF THE GARAGE PARKING SPOTS WILL BE FOR THE A DU RESIDENCE, UM, WHICH IS NOT NECESSARY, BUT VERY NICE FOR THE PARKING IMPACTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? IF NOT VIRTUALLY, IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FEATURE.

IF DIALING IN TELEPHONICALLY, PRESS STAR NINE NOW.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS? IF NONE, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL FOR THE VOTE.

RECOMMENDATION TO REQUEST CITY COUNCIL APPROVE MILLS ACT CONTRACTS FOR THE FOLLOWING SIX PROPERTIES.

THANK YOU MADAM CLERK, PLEASE READ ITEM NUMBER FOUR BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, GRAB COMMISSIONER, UH, PITO FROM THE BACK.

AND WHILE WE'RE DOING THAT, I JUST WANNA CONGRATULATE, UH, GOPI SHA AND HER FIRST PRESENTATION TO THE COMMISSION.

YAY.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS A

[4. 26-55531 Recommendation to request City Council approve Mills Act contracts for the following six (6) properties: 347 Gladys Avenue, 417 Roswell Avenue, 729 Daisy Avenue, 1048 Magnolia Avenue, 3738 and 3738 1/2 Lemon Avenue, and 3745 California Avenue. (Districts 1, 2, 3, and 5) Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

3, 4, 7 GLADYS AVENUE, 4 1 7 ROSWELL AVENUE, 7 2 9 DAISY AVENUE, 10 48 MAGNOLIA AVENUE, 37 38 AND 37 38 AND A HALF LEMON AVENUE AND 37 45 CALIFORNIA AVENUE DISTRICTS 1, 2, 3, AND FIVE.

WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PRESENTATION.

IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER PRYOR AND COMMISSIONER PADIA.

PER THANK YOU

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CHAIRMAN.

GWEN, BEFORE WE BEGIN, I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF DUE TO THE PROXIMITY OF MY RESIDENTS TO ONE OF THE MILLS APPLICATIONS THIS EVENING.

YOU MAY BE EXCUSED.

HAD THE MOST APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED, WHICH WITH CD FIVE COMING IN SECOND.

THIS IS VICE CHAIR GFI.

UM, I HAD INITIALLY SPOKEN TO ONE OF THE OWNERS OF ONE OF THE PROPERTIES, AND I'M LOOKING TO GUIDANCE FROM COUNSEL TO SEE IF I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF AS WELL.

YEAH, SO IT'S UNDER OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT GIVEN THE NATURE OF THE CONVERSATION, THAT YOU WOULD BE RECUSED AS WELL.

AND WITH THAT, UH, PROJECT PLANNER, GINA SIAS CAN PROVIDE THIS PRESENTATION.

UH, GOOD EVENING, UH, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.

THIS IS, UM, THE 2026 MILLS ACT, UM, APPLICATION CYCLE.

UH, SO, UH, THE MILLS ACT PROGRAM PROVIDES PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT IN EXCHANGE FOR REHABILITATION AND MAINTENANCE OF HISTORIC STRUCTURES.

UH, THE LONG BEACH MILLS ACT PROGRAM WAS ENACTED IN 1993.

THE PROGRAM WENT DORMANT BETWEEN, UM, 2006 AND 2014.

DURING 2014, BOTH THE CHC AND THE CITY COUNCIL ACTED TO RESUME ACCEPTING NEW MILLS ACT APPLICATIONS.

UH, THE PROGRAM RESUMED IN 20 26, 20 16 AND CONTINUED THROUGH 2020 AND THEN DUE TO THE COVID.

UM, THE PROGRAM WAS PAUSED FOR TWO YEARS, OR 2021 AND 2022.

UH, THE PROGRAM REINSTATED OR RESTARTED IN 2023, AND IT'S BEEN, UH, UM, OPERATING SINCE.

UM, FOR THE OUTREACH FOR THIS YEAR, WE POSTED INFORMATIONAL VIDEOS ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.

WE PROVIDED DIRECT MAILERS TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE SEVEN SMALLER HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

WE DID A PRESS RELEASE EMAIL BLAST, WE POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND USE LOCAL MEDIA ADVERTISING.

WE ALSO COLLABORATED WITH THE LARGER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND LONG BEACH HERITAGE TO GET THE WORD OUT FOR THIS, UM, YEAR'S PROGRAM.

WE ALSO HELD, UH, TWO INFORMATIONAL WORKSHOPS.

UH, ONE, THE FIRST MEETING WAS HELD IN PERSON AND VIRTUALLY AT JENNY OROPEZA COMMUNITY CENTER, AND THE SECOND MEETING WAS HELD VIRTUALLY.

AND, UH, THESE INFORMATIONAL WORK WORKSHOPS WERE RECORDED AND UPLOADED TO THE WEBSITE, WHICH ALLOWED FOR SELF-CERTIFICATION ATTENDANCE.

THE MILLS ACT PROGRAM, OH, I THINK ALLOWS UP TO 22 CONTRACTS TO BE ISSUED PER YEAR.

THERE'S A RANGE OF PROPERTY TYPES AND LIMITATIONS OF CONTRACTS FOR EACH PROPERTY TYPE.

UM, SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, DUPLEX, TRIPLEX, MULTIFAMILY, OR MIXED USE COMMERCIAL, A NON-RESIDENTIAL CATEGORY, WHICH INCLUDES COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL, AND INSTITUTIONAL.

AND IN ALL PROPERTIES TYPES, THAT INCLUDES EXCEPTIONAL PROPERTIES, CULTURALLY SIGNIFICANT, OR PROPERTIES AT RISK OF DEMOLITION.

AND EACH PROPERTY TYPE HAS A SET VALUATION LIMIT.

THIS MAP SHOWS THE LOCATION OF THE 16 PROPERTIES THAT SUBMITTED APPLICATIONS THAT ARE DISTRI DISTRIBUTED THROUGH THE CITY AND BY COUNCIL DISTRICT.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, CD TWO

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AND THE REASON THAT THESE TWO COUNCIL DISTRICTS, SEYMOUR APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED IS THAT CD TWO IS LOCATED IN THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE CITY AND IS MADE UP OF A MAJORITY OF HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

UM, BLUFF PARK, BLUFF HEIGHTS, UH, ROSE PARK, ROSE PARK SOUTH, AND THE SUCH CALIFORNIA HEIGHTS HISTORIC DISTRICT IS THE SECOND LARGEST HISTORIC DISTRICT IN THE CITY WITH OVER A THOUSAND PROPERTIES.

AND THAT IS LOCATED IN CD FIVE A TOTAL OF 16 MILLS ACT.

APPLICATIONS WERE RECEIVED BY THE PLANNING BUREAU FOR THIS 2026 APPLICATION CYCLE.

STAFF RECEIVED 12 APPLICATIONS FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY CATEGORY TWO APPLICATIONS FROM THE DUPLEX TRIPLEX CATEGORY, AND ONE APPLICATION FROM THE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL SLASH COMMERCIAL CATEGORY.

AND ONE APPLICATION WAS RECEIVED FROM THE EXCEPTIONAL ARCHITECTURAL CATEGORY.

OUT OF THE 16 APPLICATIONS, WE RECEIVED FIVE IN, UM, WE RECEIVED APPLICATIONS FROM PROPERTIES IN FIVE OUT OF THE 18 HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

CALIFORNIA HEIGHTS HISTORIC DISTRICT RECEIVED THE HEIST NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS WITH FOUR APPLICATIONS.

11 APPLICATIONS WERE FOR PROPERTIES THAT WERE CONTRIBUTING RESOURCES IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

WE ALSO RECEIVED FOUR APPLICATIONS THAT INCLUDED LANDMARK DESIGNATION REQUESTS FROM PROPERTIES NOT LOCATED IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

THESE LANDMARK NOMINATION APPLICATIONS WERE FROM PROPERTIES FROM C TWO C FOUR, AND CD EIGHT.

OUT OF THE 16 APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED, WE ARE RECOMMENDING SIX PROPERTIES FORWARD FOR ZA CONTRACTS.

FIVE APPLICATIONS ARE IN THE SINGLE FAMILY CATEGORY, AND ONE APPLICATION IS IN THE DUPLEX TRIPLEX CATEGORY OF THE SIX PROPERTIES, THE WORK PLANS INCLUDED SUBSTANTIAL EX EXTERIOR RE RESTORATIONS, ELEC, ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING SYSTEM UPGRADES AND MAJOR FOUNDATION REPAIRS.

THE WORK PLANS ARE ATTACHED AS ATTACHMENT D IN YOUR PACKETS.

THE FIRST PROPERTY IS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY ADDRESSED AT 3 47 GLADYS AVENUE.

THIS PROPERTY IS A CALIFORNIA BUNGALOW CONSTRUCTED IN 1913.

THE NEXT PROPERTY IS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ADDRESSED AS FOUR 17 ROSWELL AVENUE.

THIS PROPERTY IS A CALIFORNIA BUNGALOW CONSTRUCTED IN 1922.

THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS 7 29 DAISY AVENUE.

IT'S SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE CONSTRUCTED IN VERNACULAR ARCHITECTURAL STYLE IN, UM, 1907.

THEN WE HAVE 10 48 MAGNOLIA AVENUE.

IT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1907.

IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE CONSTRUCTED IN THE CALIFORNIA BUNGALOW ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.

WE HAVE 37, 38, AND 37, 38 AND A HALF LEMON AVENUE.

IT'S A DUPLEX CONSTRUCTED IN THE SPANISH COLONIAL ARCHITECTURAL STYLE IN 1928.

AND FINALLY, 37 45 CALIFORNIA AVENUE.

A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, UH, PROPERTY CONSTRUCTED IN THE SPANISH COLONIAL ARCHITECTURAL STYLE IN 1929.

AS STATED EARLIER IN THE EARLIER SLIDES, WE RECEIVED FOUR APPLICATIONS FOR LANDMARK NOMINATION.

HOWEVER, AFTER REVIEWING THE FOUR APPLICATIONS, STAFF DETERMINED THAT ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS REQUIRED ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION IN ORDER TO FULLY ANALYZE THEM FOR LANDMARK MERIT.

NONE OF THESE PROPERTIES WERE LOCATED IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT, AND THEY'RE ALL REQUIRED TO BE LANDMARK DESIGNATED IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MILLS ACT CONTRACT.

AND AS A RESULT, THERE ARE NO LANDMARK APPLICATIONS FOR RECOMMENDATION FOR CONSIDERATION FOR THIS YEAR.

AND AS A REMINDER TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR A LANDMARK DESIGNATION, A CULTURAL RESOURCE MUST RETAIN INTEGRITY AND MUST MEET ONE OF THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA.

IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE EVENTS THAT HAVE MADE A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION TO THE BROAD PATTERNS OF THE CI CITY'S HISTORY.

IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE LIVES OF PERSONS SIGNIFICANT IN THE CITY'S PAST.

IT EMBODIES THE DISTINCTIVE CHARACTERISTICS OF A TYPE PERIOD OR METHOD OF CONSTRUCTION, OR IT REPRESENTS THE WORK OF A MASTER

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OR IT POSSESSES HIGH ARTISTIC VALUE.

AND FINALLY, IT HAS YIELDED OR MAYBE LIKELY TO YIELD INFORMATION IMPORTANT IN PREHISTORY.

THE NEXT FEW SLIDES, WE'LL GO INTO MORE DETAIL OF EACH OF THE LANDMARK NOM NATION REQUESTS.

AND STARTING FIRST WITH 1612 PLACE.

THIS IS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE BUILT IN 1904 IN THE QUEEN ANNE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.

THIS PROPERTY IS NOT LOCATED IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT.

AFTER REVIEWING THE LANDMARK NOMINATION APPLICATION, STAFF DETERMINED THAT IT LACKED SU SUBSTANTIAL SUPPORTING DOCUMENT DOCUMENTATION IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THE NOMINATION.

AS A RESULT, STAFF WAS UNABLE TO MAKE THE FINDINGS TO SUPPORT THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION BASED ON THE INFORMATION PROVIDED.

AT THIS TIME, WE ARE NOT RECOMMENDING LANDMARK DESIGNATION AND WITHOUT THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION, THE PROPERTY DOES NOT QUALIFY FOR A MILLS ACT CONTRACT.

THE NEXT APPLICATION IS 1502 57TH STREET.

THIS IS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE BUILT IN 1930 IN THE SPANISH COLONIAL ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.

IT IS NOT LOCATED IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT.

THIS LANDMARK NOMINATION APPLICATION LACKED SUBSTANTIAL SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THE NOMINATION.

AS A RESULT, WE ARE UNABLE TO MAKE THE FINDINGS TO SUPPORT LANDMARK DESIGNATION BASED ON THE INFORMATION PROVIDED.

AT THIS TIME, WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING LANDMARK DESIGNATION AND WITHOUT THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION, THE PROPERTY DOES NOT QUALIFY FOR A MILLS ACT CONTRACT.

THE NEXT PROPERTY IS 1820 SNOWDEN AVENUE.

IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE BUILT IN 1952.

THE HOUSE WAS CONSTRUCTED IN THE MID-CENTURY MODERN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE BY NOTED ARCHITECT'S, POPPER AND LOCKET.

A REAR ADDITION WAS ADDED IN 1965, AND THIS REAR EDITION WAS DESIGNED BY NOTED ARCHITECT, UH, LEOPOLD FISHER.

ADDITIONALLY, UM, DR.

L WARD LEY, A NOTED CERAMIC ARTIST, SCULPTOR, AND EDUCATOR LIVED IN THE HOUSE.

DR.

YORI FOUNDED THE CERAMICS DEPARTMENT AT CAL STATE LONG BEACH, AND HE LIVED IN THIS HOUSE.

THE PROPERTY IS NOT LOCATED IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT.

UH, THE PROPERTY MAY QUALIFY AS A LANDMARK DESIGNATION.

BASED ON THIS PRELIMINARY INFORMATION, HOWEVER, ADDITIONAL SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION IS NEEDED IN ORDER TO MAKE THE FINDINGS NEEDED TO SUPPORT THE NOMINATION, THE PROPERTY OWNERS WERE ENCOURAGED TO ENGAGE WITH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION CONSULTANT TO CONDUCT FURTHER RESEARCH ON THE PROPERTY'S HISTORY IN ORDER TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION THAT IS NEEDED TO SUPPORT THE LANDMARK NOMINATION.

AT THIS TIME, WE'RE UNABLE TO MAKE THE FINDINGS TO SUPPORT THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION BASED ON THE INFORMATION PROVIDED WITHOUT LANDMARK DESIGNATION.

THE PROPERTY DOES NOT QUALIFY FOR A MILLS AT CONTRACT.

THIS PROPERTY IS ADDRESSED AT AS 2075 EAST THIRD STREET.

IT'S A TWO STORY RESIDENTIAL APARTMENT BUILDING BUILT IN 1929.

IT WAS DESIGNED IN THE SPANISH COLONIAL ARCHITECTURAL STYLE BY MASTER ARCHITECT GEORGE D. RIDDLE.

GEORGE D. RIDDLE DESIGNED MANY WORKS, UM, WITHIN LONG BEACH.

THE BUILDING IS NOT LOCATED IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT.

THE PROPERTY MAY QUALIFY AS A LANDMARK DESIGNATION.

BASED ON THIS PRELIMINARY INFORMATION, HOWEVER ADDITIONAL SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION IS NEEDED IN ORDER TO MAKE THE FINDINGS NEEDED TO SUPPORT THIS NO NOMINATION, THE PROPERTY OWNERS WERE ENCOURAGED TO ENG ENGAGE, ENGAGE WITH A HISTORIC PRESERVATION CONSULTANT IN ORDER TO CONDUCT FURTHER RESEARCH ON THE PROPERTY'S HISTORY, TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION NEEDED TO SUPPORT THE LANDMARK NOMINATION.

AT THIS TIME, WE'RE UNABLE, UNABLE TO MAKE THE FINDINGS TO, TO SUPPORT THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED WITHOUT THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION.

THE PROPERTY DOES NOT QUALIFY FOR A MILLS ACT CONTRACT.

THIS BUILDING ADDRESSED AS 4 55 EAST OCEAN BILL BOULEVARD WAS DEVELOPED WITH A 12 STORY MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL BUILDING IN 1923.

THE BUILDING WAS DESIGNED IN THE RENAISSANCE REVIVAL ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.

TODAY, THE BUILDING CONTAINS 159 CONDOMINIUM UNITS.

THE BUILDING IS A DESIGNATED LANDMARK KNOWN AS A COOPER ARMS BUILDING.

THE APPLICATION CONTAINED A ROBUST WORK PLAN, WHICH WITH SEVERAL QUALIFIED RESTORATION ITEMS PROPOSED.

HOWEVER, THE APPLICATION DID NOT HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT PARTICIPATION OF ALL 159 CONDOMINIUM OWNERS, WHICH IS REQUIREMENT, UH, TO ENTER INTO A MILLS ACT CONTRACT.

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AND AFTER THE APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED, ONE OF THE CONDOMINIUM OWNERS FORMALLY SUBMITTED AN OBJECTION TO THE BUILDING RECEIVING A MILLS ACT APPLICATION.

THIS SLIDE WILL PROVIDE A BLE BRIEF HISTORY OF THE MILLS ACT PROGRAM, UH, IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH.

THE MILLS ACT PROGRAM, AGAIN, WAS ENABLED BY STATE LEG LEG LEGISLATION.

IT WAS ENACTED IN 1972 AND WAS FIRST ESTABLISHED BY CITY COUNCIL IN 1993.

HOWEVER, IT WAS LIMITED TO ONLY ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, UH, ONLY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

UM, IN, UH, IN 2 0 3, THE PROGRAM WAS EXPANDED TO ALLOW MULTI, UH, UNIT CONDOMINIUM BUILDINGS, BUT AT THAT TIME, IT DID NOT REQUIRE A HUNDRED PERCENT PROPERTY OWNER PARTICIPATION.

THEN THE PROGRAM WAS PAUSED, UH, BETWEEN 2006 AND 2015 DUE TO THE RECESSION AND PRIOR TO THE PROGRAM BEING REINSTATED IN 2015, A FEASIBILITY STUDY WAS COMPLETED TO DETERMINE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE PROGRAM AS WELL AS TO EVALUATE THE PROGRAM'S EXPANSION POTENTIAL.

WITH REGARDS TO CONDOMINIUMS, THE STUDY DETERMINED THAT WITH A GREATER NUMBER OF PROPERTY OWNERS AND RESIDENTS ASSOCIATED WITH MULTIFAMILY CONDO BUILDINGS AND THAT MULTIFAMILY MILLS ACT CONTRACTS REQUIRE MORE COORDINATION AMONG MORE INTERESTED PARTIES THAN A TYPICAL SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY.

A HUNDRED PERCENT PARTICIP PARTICIPATION OF ALL CONDO OWNERS IS IMPORTANT.

THE STUDY ALSO FOUND THAT IT WAS DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE CONTRACT OBLIGATIONS WHEN THE BUILDING DID NOT HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT PARTICIPATION OF CONDO OWNERS.

THE STUDY CONCLUDED THAT ACHIEVING A HUNDRED PERCENT PARTICIPATION ENSURES THAT ALL PROPERTY OWNERS ARE AWARE OF AND, AND ARE INVESTED IN THE RESPONSIBILITIES AND REWARDS WITH THE PROGRAM.

AND FURTHERMORE, FROM A LEGAL CONCERN ENTERING INTO A BINDING CONTRACT, WHEN ONE OR MORE OWNERS DO NOT CONSENT MAY BE CHALLENGED, THERE ARE ONLY THREE CONDO BUILDINGS WITH MILLS AT CONTRACTS THAT PREDATE 2015 THAT DID NOT HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT PARTICIPATION.

WHEN THEIR CONTRACTS WERE APPROVED, IT WAS THE, UM, EL CORDOVA, ROSE TOWERS, THE VILLA RIVIERA, AND THE LAFAYETTE BUILDING.

THE FEASIBILITY STUDY RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY WORK WITH THESE THREE PROPERTIES TO ACHIEVE A HUNDRED PERCENT PARTICIPATION.

AND OVER THE YEARS, NEW CONTRACTS WERE ADDED FOR THESE PROPERTIES.

AS PART OF THE PART OF THE 2015 PROGRAM UPDATE, THE CITY COUNCIL IMPLEMENTED SEVERAL AMENDMENTS TO THE PROGRAM.

ONE AMENDMENT WAS TO ADD THE MISSING PROPERTY OWNERS OF THE THREE CONDO CONTRACTS WHEN FEASIBLE TO GET AS CLOSE TO A HUNDRED PERCENT PARTICIPATION.

AND ANOTHER AMENDMENT WAS TO REQUIRE A HUNDRED PERCENT PARTICIPATION OF ALL CONDO OWNERS FOR ALL NEW CONTRACTS FOR CONDO BUILDINGS.

AS A, AS A RESULT, THE CONDOMINIUM BUILDING ADDRESSED AS 4 55 EAST OCEAN BOULEVARD WAS NOT RECOMMENDED FORWARD FOR MILLS AT CONTRACT.

FIVE ADDITIONAL APPLICATIONS ARE NOT RECOMMENDED FORWARD THIS YEAR.

THESE PROPERTIES ARE ADDRESSED AS 5 31 ROSWELL AVENUE, 37 30 MARQUITA STREET, 29 34 EAST FIRST STREET, 34 39 LEMON AVENUE, AND 35 87 GUNDRY AVENUE.

SOME OF THE PROPERTIES WORK PLANS WERE NOT AS ROBUST AS THE WORK PLANS THAT WERE RECOMMENDED FORWARD.

AND THE WORK PLANS FOR THESE APPLICATIONS, UM, THAT WERE NOT RECOMMENDED FORWARD ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.

UNDER ATTACHMENT E, WE RECEIVED ONE EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE, WHICH HAS BEEN FORWARDED TO YOU AND HAS BEEN UPLOADED TO THE WEBSITE UNDER PUBLIC COMMENTS.

IN CONCLUSION, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE SIX MEALS ACT CONTRACTS ADDRESSED AS 3 47 GLADYS AVENUE, FOUR 17 ROSWELL AVENUE, 7 29 DAISY AVENUE, 10 48 MAGNOLIA AVENUE, 37 38, AND 37 38 AND A HALF LEMON AVENUE, AND 37 45 CALIFORNIA AVENUE.

THIS CONCLUDES MY REPORT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I CAN ANSWER THEM AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU, GINA, FOR THIS REPORT.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PRESENTATION? UH, COMMISSIONER PRYOR? I HAVE, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ACTUALLY.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? HANG ON.

YES.

THE REQUEST THAT THEY, UM, FIND A HISTORICAL ARCHITECT, UH, CONSULTANT AND GET MORE DOCUMENTATION, UM, IS FROM THE LENS OF EQUITY.

UM, IN A COUPLE OF THESE CASES WHERE THEY, THE, UM, APPLICANTS WERE DENIED OR TURNED DOWN, UM, WITH

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I IMAGINE THAT'S PROBABLY A PRETTY COSTLY ASK, AND I IMAGINE PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY TRYING FOR THE MILLS ACT SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE SOME RELIEF AND ASSISTANCE SO THAT THEY CAN MAINTAIN THESE, YOU KNOW, BEAUTIFUL, UM, HISTORIC PLACES.

AND SO I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THERE ARE PROVISIONS IN THAT, IN THE MILLS ACT, IF THERE'S ANY PROVISIONS THAT THE CITY HAS IN THAT SPACE WITH REGARDS TO THAT ASK SPECIFICALLY AND TURNING DOWN THOSE PROPERTIES.

YEAH, SO I THINK IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

UM, THE, THE REQUIREMENT IS IF YOU'RE NOT ALREADY A DESIGNATED LANDMARK OR IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT AS A CONTRIBUTOR, THAT YOU NEED TO BECOME A LANDMARK, UH, PROPERTY.

UM, AND IN ORDER TO BE ELIGIBLE TO BE A LANDMARK, YOU NEED THAT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE OF WHY THE PROPERTY MEETS ONE OR MORE OF THE CRITERIA FOR LANDMARKING.

UM, SO IT IS A MATTER OF CODE COMPLIANCE OF, OF WHETHER STAFF CAN MAKE THE FINDINGS.

THE EASIEST WAY TO DO THAT IS WITH, YOU KNOW, THE REPORTING, UM, BEING LIKE THAT ADDITIONAL BACKUP DOCUMENTATION AND TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE IT.

ALTHOUGH IT MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE A REQUIREMENT ON EVERY PROPERTY, LIKE IF IT, IF EXISTING, UM, PUBLIC DOCUMENTATION OR NEWSPAPER ARTICLES OR OTHER THINGS EXIST, THAT WOULD BE ONE PATHWAY.

UM, I THINK PARTNERING WITH THE LOCAL LIBRARY, UM, AND SOME OF OUR HISTORIC, UM, ASSOCIATIONS AND ORGANIZATIONS IS ANOTHER POTENTIAL PATHWAY.

UM, SO YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE IS, IT'S NOT LIKE AN EASY, UM, ENTRY TO GETTING THAT LANDMARK STATUS IF YOU'RE NOT ALREADY IN A DISTRICT OR YOU'RE NOT ALREADY DESIGNATED.

UM, BUT THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD REQUIRE A MUCH BIGGER, UM, CHANGE IN APPROACH IF WE WERE TO, TO NO LONGER REQUIRE THE SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE FOR WHY SOMETHING, UM, NEEDS TO BECOME A LANDMARK, WHICH IS IN PLACE FOR OTHER REASONS, SUCH AS, UM, ENSURING THAT LANDMARKS DO MEET THOSE CRITERIA, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY A FEDERAL STANDARD THAT WE ADOPT LOCALLY.

UM, I THINK THERE COULD BE, UM, EXPLORATION OF OTHER PROGRAMS OR SUPPORT OR RESOURCES TO HELP PROVIDE THAT EVIDENCE.

THIS YEAR WE DID REALLY FOCUSED OUTREACH WHERE WE DID A DIRECT MAILER TO EVERY PROPERTY THAT WAS LISTED AS POTENTIALLY HISTORIC IN OUR RACE, RACE AND SUBURBANIZATION CONTEXT STATEMENT.

WE THOUGHT IT WAS SUPER IMPORTANT TO DO THAT, UH, FOCUSED OUTREACH TO TRY TO REACH, UM, PROPERTIES THAT MAY NOT REALIZE THAT THEY COULD BE, UM, UM, UH, ELIGIBLE AND FOR WHICH THAT DOCUMENTATION ALREADY EXISTS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE, THE RESEARCH WE DO ON THE CITY SIDE IS ALREADY OUT THERE AND WOULD HAVE THAT BACKUP EVIDENCE.

SO I THINK, UH, CONTINUING TO DO THAT WORK OF, OF REACHING OUT TO POTENTIALLY HISTORIC PROPERTIES, UM, FROM THE RACE AND SUBURBANIZATION CONTEXT STATEMENT.

AND LATER THIS YEAR, UH, WE PLAN TO COME FORWARD WITH THE PROPOSED UPDATE TO THE OVERALL HISTORIC CONTEXT STATEMENT, WHICH WILL LIKE, CREATE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY.

THOSE ARE SOME WAYS THAT WE CAN USE SOME OF OUR CITY FOCUSED WORK TO HELP, UM, BETTER ADDRESS THAT EQUITY LENS.

IN THE ABSENCE OF THAT, UM, JUST FOR SORT OF ANY GENERAL PROPERTY, UM, I DON'T SEE SORT OF A, A LEGAL PATHWAY TO SORT OF BYPASS THAT REQUIREMENT, BUT I THINK WHAT, WHAT IS IN OUR CONTROL IS THAT ABILITY FOR CITY RESEARCH THAT'S DONE TO HAVE THAT MORE EQUITY LENS FOCUS.

BECAUSE OUR EXISTING CONTEXT STATEMENT IS VERY FOCUSED ON ARCHITECTURAL SIGNIFICANCE.

THAT'S ONLY ONE OF FOUR CRITERIA, RIGHT? UM, BUT FOR EXAMPLE, THE RACE AND SUBURBANIZATION STATEMENT HAS A MUCH BROADER LENS AND LOOKS AT WHERE WERE THEIR CULTURAL GATHERING SPACES, FOR EXAMPLE, DURING DIFFERENT MOVEMENTS IN THE SIXTIES AND SEVENTIES, WHERE WERE THE FIGHTS FOR FAIR HOUSING? LIKE THOSE TYPE OF THINGS THAT WERE NOT ALWAYS CONSIDERED IN OUR DOCUMENTATION.

UM, AND SO WE DID, LIKE I MENTIONED, DIRECT MAILERS, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET MUCH OF A RESPONSE, WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT COULD WE DO EVEN MORE THAN THAT, UM, TO, TO HAVE THAT FOCUSED OUTREACH TO, UM, TO PROPERTIES AND PEOPLE, UM, WHO MAY NOT ALWAYS THINK OF, OF MILLS ACT, UM, AS AN OPTION.

UM, ACTUALLY, COMMISSIONER PIZZA, UM, FIRST OF ALL, THAT WAS AN EXCELLENT EXPLANATION.

THANK YOU, ALLISON.

THAT WAS REALLY HELPFUL.

UM, AND GINA, YOUR PRESENTATION WAS ALSO VERY CLEAR AND CONCISE AND ALWAYS VERY, UM, WELL PUT TOGETHER.

I'M IMPRESSED WITH THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT GOES INTO THESE THINGS AND, UH, ALL YOU DO, SO THANK YOU.

UM, KIND OF PIGGYBACKING, UH, COMMISSIONER PRYOR'S QUESTION DO, AND NOT TO GET TOO MUCH INTO THE WEEDS, UM, WHEN YOU'VE TOLD THESE APPLICANTS FOR LANDMARK STATUS THAT THEY NEED TO GO AND FIND AND RESEARCH THESE ITEMS, IS IT A, IS IT A,

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TO HER POINT, IS IT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE FINANCIAL MEANS TO HIRE SOMEONE OR THEY JUST AT THAT POINT GIVE UP OR THE TIMING ISN'T, UH, ENOUGH? I, I'M CURIOUS WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS USUALLY THE PROBLEM WITH THESE APPLICANTS NOT COMING FORWARD WITH THAT INFORMATION? YEAH, I'LL LET STAFF GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, BUT AT A HIGH LEVEL, IT'S OFTEN A TIMING QUESTION.

UM, SO THIS PROCESS WE DO EVERY SINGLE YEAR, UM, WE PREPARE THE MATERIALS, UM, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, AND THEN WE RUN PUBLIC MEETINGS IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY.

THEN THERE'S AN APPLICATION DEADLINE IN MARCH.

AND THEN DEPENDING ON THE VOLUME OF APPLICATIONS, OUR STAFF ARE OUT THERE REVIEWING AND DOING SITE VISITS AND ANALYSIS TO COME TO YOU WITH RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO WE KIND OF HAVE TO HAVE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS READY BY MAY.

SO IT'S NOT A LOT OF TIME TO GO THROUGH THAT IN ORDER TO AGENDIZE IT AND GET IT TO, TO YOU ALL BY JUNE OR JULY.

THE REASON WE NEED TO DO THAT IS BECAUSE YOU ARE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

WE THEN HAVE TO GET A HEARING BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, WHICH WON'T BE AVAILABLE UNTIL LATE SEPTEMBER DUE TO THEIR BUDGET, UH, DELIBERATIONS GOING ON BETWEEN NOW AND MID-SEPTEMBER.

UM, BUT WE CAN'T WAIT MUCH PAST EARLY OCTOBER BECAUSE THEN WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY, UM, UM, IMPLEMENT AND GET ALL THE SIGN ALL THE CONTRACTS SIGNED, NOTARIZED, AND WITH THE COUNTY RECORDER BEFORE DECEMBER 31ST.

SO IT'S A VERY TIGHT PROCESS EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

UM, AND SO OFTENTIMES, AND YOU, AND YOU SAW IT IN THE SLIDES, OFTENTIMES WE'RE RECOMMENDING GET A LITTLE BIT MORE DOCUMENTATION AND COME BACK NEXT YEAR.

UM, AND WE DO HAVE A PROCESS FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK WITH THAT ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION.

AND THAT IS OFTEN HOW, HOW YOU DO SEE THIS EVENTUALLY RESOLVED.

UM, YOU PROBABLY SAW IN THIS PRESENTATION, THERE'S, THERE'S DIFFERENT, UM, UH, CAVEATS TO THE, TO THE DIFFERENT, UM, UH, LANDMARK, UH, REQUESTS MADE BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME THAT, UM, SEEMED MORE CLEAR TO STAFF JUST ON THE FACE OF IT THAT YOU LIKELY COULD, UH, BE ELIGIBLE.

AND OTHERS WHERE IT'S LESS CLEAR TO US THAT THAT ELIGIBILITY EXISTS.

WE DON'T WANNA SEND SOMEONE OUT TO SPEND MORE MONEY ON SOMETHING IF WE DON'T THINK IT CAN MEET THAT EVENTUALLY.

BUT ON THE FLIP SIDE, UM, THIS BECOMES A, A TAX BREAK IN WHICH THE CITY LOSES MONEY IN PERPETUITY.

ESSENTIALLY, PROPERTY TAXES ARE OUR NUMBER ONE FORM OF CITY REVENUE.

SO WE HAVE TO BE VERY DISCERNING IN, IN FIGURING OUT IF THE CONTRACT MAKES SENSE ON BOTH SIDES, AND THAT THE, THAT THE WORK PLAN IS ROBUST ENOUGH TO, OF COURSE, IT'S AN IMPORTANT PRESERVATION TOOL AND WE, UM, ARE REALLY PROUD TO RUN THIS PROGRAM AND DO IT EVERY YEAR, BUT WE DO HAVE TO BE THOUGHTFUL IN DISCERNING AND MAKING SURE THAT IT WILL BRING THAT HISTORIC BENEFIT THAT WE ARE LOSING, UM, THAT IMPORTANT TAX REVENUE OVER, ESPECIALLY IN THESE FISCAL TIMES.

YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THE STAFF PRESENTATION? COMMISSIONER PADILLA PEREZ HERE? I DO HAVE A QUESTION CONCERNING THE COOPER ARMS BUILDING BECAUSE THEY HAD ONE OWNER WHO WAS OPPOSED TO THE MILLS ACT.

UM, I DO KNOW OF ANOTHER, UM, MULTI-USE PROPERTY THAT WAS GRANTED A MACK WHEN ONE OWNER DID NOT AGREE.

AND THIS WAS AFTER 2015.

UM, BUT IT WAS IT BECAUSE THIS OWNER SPECIFICALLY WROTE A LETTER IN CONTESTING THE PARTICIPATION IN THE PROGRAM.

IT WASN'T THAT THEY JUST DID, THEY REFUSED TO SIGN, BUT ACTUALLY OUTRIGHT CONTESTED IT.

YEAH, SO IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

UM, WE DO, PART OF WHAT REALLY CEMENTED IT IN THIS CASE WAS WE GOT THAT FORMAL OBJECTION IN WRITING FROM ONE OF THE OWNERS.

UM, AND THAT CLEARLY GOES AGAINST THE 2015 COUNCIL POLICY.

WE HAVE HAD OTHER SITUATIONS WHERE MAYBE AN OWNER WAS UNREACHABLE OR IN ONE CASE ACTUALLY DECEASED.

AND, AND SO THERE HAVE BEEN, UM, THOSE TYPE OF SITUATIONS THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WORK THROUGH.

UM, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING THAT 2015, UH, COUNCIL, UM, UH, UPDATE TO THE PROGRAM REALLY GAVE US THAT CLARITY ON THE A HUNDRED PERCENT REQUIREMENT.

AND THEN RECEIVING THAT OBJECTION IN WRITING MADE IT EXTRA CHALLENGING.

UM, WE UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE APPLICANT HAS PUT A LOT OF TIME INTO A REALLY ROBUST WORK PROGRAM AND WE UNDERSTAND THEIR DESIRE FOR, FOR THIS, UM, OPPORTUNITY.

UM, AND SO WE'RE CONTINUING TO RESEARCH LIKE WHAT OTHER CITIES DO AND WHAT OPTIONS THERE MAY BE, BUT THAT WOULD REQUIRE, UM, A CHANGE TO THE PROGRAM GUIDELINES ITSELF.

SO THAT'S WHY THE RECOMMENDATION IS NO THIS YEAR.

UM, BUT, UM, AS YOU HEARD EARLIER THIS YEAR, WE, WE DO HAVE IT AT OUR WORK PROGRAM TO LOOK AT THE PROGRAM GUIDELINES OVERALL AND PRIORITIES.

UM, SO AS WE DO THAT, THIS IS ONE OF THE, UM, COMPONENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT VERY CRITICALLY AND, AND GETTING A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW OTHER CITIES DEAL WITH IT, UH, AGAIN, 'CAUSE WE'RE ENTERING INTO A FORMAL CONTRACT WHERE EVERYONE NEEDS TO SIGN AND NOTARIZE.

AND SO TO GET THAT FORMAL OBJECTION JUST PUTS THE CITY IN A REALLY TOUGH SPOT.

UH, COMMISSIONER PRYOR.

SO WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THOSE CHANGES TO THE PROGRAM ITSELF, UM, WITH REGARDS TO THE,

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THE BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED OR, UM, APPLICA THE APPLICANTS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF HISTORIC DISTRICTS, UM, TO ME THAT FEELS LIKE THAT DISADVANTAGES THEM THE WAY THAT THE RULES ARE CURRENTLY WRITTEN NOW, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT.

BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO INCLUDE THOSE, THOSE TYPES OF PROPERTIES AND NOT MAKE THEM HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH ADDITIONAL HOOPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S STILL A LOT OF VALUE IN THAT, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT WANNA PARTICIPATE.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THE REVENUE PIECE OF IT, BUT I'M ALSO JUST THINKING, UM, THAT IT FEELS LIKE THAT'S NOT ENTIRELY EQUITABLE FOR SOMEBODY AS WELL IF THEY'RE NOT, IF THEY JUST DON'T HAPPEN TO BE IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT, BUT THEY HAVE A PROPERTY THAT, THAT MAKES SENSE FOR THIS.

SO THAT'S ONE COMMENT.

A SECOND ONE IS JUST ON WITH REGARDS TO THE MARKETING, UM, AND HAVING, LOOKING AT THAT MARKETING ROLLOUT PLAN, I KNOW THAT OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE DOING OUTREACH IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS AND I'M JUST CURIOUS IF, UM, HOW, WHAT, WHAT TYPE OF OUTREACH IS DONE FOR THINGS LIKE, UH, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE, LIKE WE HAVE LIBRARIES IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW THAT ARE MID-CENTURY MODERN AND I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE ANY HISTORIC DESIGNATION AREN'T NECESSARILY IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

MAYBE SOME ARE, BUT I DON'T THINK MOST OF THEM ARE LIKE HOW, WHAT, WHAT TYPE OF ADDITIONAL OUTREACH HAPPENS FOR THAT TYPE OF STUFF AND IN THOSE SPACES AS WELL.

THANKS.

THANKS FOR THAT.

UM, UH, WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE THIS FEEDBACK AS WE THINK ABOUT POTENTIAL CHANGES TO THE PROGRAM AND THE FUTURE.

AND I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO AGENDIZE A WHOLE DISCUSSION OF POTENTIAL CHANGES TO THE PROGRAM IN THE FUTURE IN THE, TO YOUR POINT ABOUT SORT OF APPLICANTS OUTSIDE HISTORIC DISTRICTS, THAT IS, SO STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT IT'S A DESIGNATED HISTORIC RESOURCE TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR A CONTRACT AND THE TWO WAYS TO BE A DESIGNATED RESOURCE OR TO EITHER BE A CONTRIBUTOR IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT OR TO BE A DESIGNATED LANDMARK.

AND IT'S THE, IT'S THE BACKUP DOCUMENT DOCUMENTATION NEEDED TO BECOME A LANDMARK THAT THAT REQUIRES THAT ADDITIONAL RESEARCH.

UM, SO THERE IS A HIGH BAR TO SOMETHING BECOMING AN INDIVIDUAL LANDMARK, UM, THAT REALLY FEEDS FROM THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS AND THAT WANTING TO BALANCE, UM, THAT IT BE A HIGH BAR TO BECOME THAT, THAT RESOURCE, UM, WHERE IT DOES LIMIT OTHER FUTURE DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL AND OTHER THINGS.

SO JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT CLARITY.

UM, WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT SORT OF MARKETING AND, AND ROLLOUT AND HOW THAT, UM, CAN ALL CONTINUE TO IMPROVE.

UM, WE'VE MADE SOME, UH, SOME EVOLUTION AND CHANGES, LIKE I MENTIONED, BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO THINK, UM, ABOUT HOW WE DO THAT FOR SOMETHING LIKE A LIBRARY.

A A CITY PROPERTY ALREADY WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM A PROPERTY TAX PERSPECTIVE, SO THEY WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE THAT, UM, CHALLENGE.

BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY THINK ABOUT OTHER SORT OF PUBLIC SERVING TYPE OF RESOURCES, UM, WHERE THIS COULD BE, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR FOCUSED OUTREACH.

AND I ALSO WANTED TO JUST COMMENT ON THE FOCUSED OUTREACH.

UM, COMMISSIONER PRYOR GOT TO MY ANSWER OR MY QUESTION BEFORE, UM, I COULD, BUT THANK YOU, UM, FOR THE THOROUGH EXPLANATION.

UM, I WAS REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE NORTH LONG BEACH LOCATION, BUT YOU DID A GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING, UM, THAT THEY NEEDED CERTAIN MATERIALS.

WITH THAT SAID, LOOKING AT THE FACT THAT THERE WERE NO APPLICATIONS IN SIX SEVEN, AND I BELIEVE EIGHT AND NINE, UM, IT WAS GOOD TO KNOW THAT YOU DO DO MAILERS, BUT MAYBE A CONSIDERATION CAN BE GOING INTO THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS BECAUSE I KNOW HAVING WORKED IN ALL OF THOSE VERY PARTICULAR DISTRICTS, UM, THEY HAVE MANY ACTIVE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.

SO WOULD LOVE TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS INCREASE.

UM, 'CAUSE UH, I, I WOULD GUESS THAT MANY ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROGRAM.

UM, AND I WOULD EVEN LOVE TO SEE HOW MANY MAILERS WENT OUT TO RESIDENTS IN EACH OF THOSE DISTRICTS.

SO, THANK YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONER PRYOR.

SORRY, I JUST KEEP BUTTING IN HERE.

UM, ALSO JUST TO PONY UP ON WHAT, UM, TASHA IS SAYING, I DEFINITELY THINK SOME GEO TARGETED DIGITAL MARKETING IN SOCIAL MEDIA AND OTHERWISE, UM, WOULD MAKE SENSE IN THOSE AREAS.

AND I ALSO THINK, UH, OR REALLY ALL AREAS TO BE HONEST, UM, BUT MEETING PEOPLE WHERE THEY REALLY ARE NOT NECESSARILY IN THEIR MAILBOX.

AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE IS JUST ABOUT THE MESSAGING ITSELF IS HERE'S WHY THIS WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO YOU.

AND I THINK THAT THAT MESSAGING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE CURRENTLY, BUT JUST MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S SUPER CLEAR SO THAT, UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS WELL.

UH, COMMISSIONER PAD PEREZ

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HERE.

I ALSO WANT TO REMIND MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS THAT WE AS SERVANTS OF THE PUBLIC ARE EMPOWERED AS WELL TO DO COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

UH, IT IS ONE OF OUR, UH, I MEAN I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF.

I, I BELIEVE IT TO BE ONE OF MY DUTIES AS A COMMISSIONER TO GO OUT.

I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF, UH, MEETINGS WITH COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS PLAN WHERE I WILL BE IN ATTENDANCE TO, UM, JUST ENGAGE AND LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT RESOURCES ARE OUT THERE.

AND, UM, IF STAFF COULD REMIND ME, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I LOOKED AT THE MILLS ACT WEBSITE.

ARE THERE, UM, GUIDANCE OFFERED ON LIKE WHERE RE UH, RESEARCH RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AT NO COST, WHETHER IT BE LIBRARIES OR OUR LIBRARIANS EVER INVITED TO COLLABORATE FOR THESE MILLS ACT WORKSHOPS SO THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THAT IF THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE IT IN THEIR BUDGET TO HIRE A PROFESSIONAL CONSULTANT, THAT THERE ARE WAYS THAT THEY CAN DO THIS RESEARCH ON THEIR OWN .

UM, YES, WE, PART OF THE OUTREACH, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE, ON THE MILLS ACT WEBSITE AND ON THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION WEBSITE ITSELF, AND ALSO THROUGH OUR WORKSHOPS THAT WE DO FOR THE PROGRAM, WE GO INTO DETAIL, UM, HOW TO DO THE RESEARCH, WHERE TO LOOK FOR THE RESEARCH.

UM, I THINK IT'S A REALLY A TIMING THING FOR PEOPLE IF THEY'RE NOT WORKING A YEAR IN ADVANCE.

AND SO THEY REALLY NEED TO, UM, GET THAT INFORMATION, UH, DONE REALLY SOON.

UM, LAST YEAR WE, WE LANDMARKED ONE PROPERTY AND ALL THE RESEARCH WAS DONE BY THE PROPERTY OWNER.

HOWEVER, SHE HAD REALLY GOOD RESEARCH, UM, AND I THINK IT WAS PART OF WHAT SHE DOES.

'CAUSE I EVEN ASKED HER, WHO DID SHE USE? AND SHE SAID, NO, I DID IT MYSELF.

AND I THINK SHE JUST KNEW HOW TO DO IT.

SO I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, UM, TO HELP MAYBE GUIDE HOMEOWNERS, UM, BUT ALSO HOMEOWNERS NEED TO KIND OF TAKE THAT STEP AND START DOING LANDMARK, UM, UH, DOING THAT LANDMARK RESEARCH REALLY EARLY ON, NOT AT THE FRONT END AND THE MILLS ACT CONTRACT.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.

THOSE RESOURCES ARE ACTUALLY BEING PRESENTED TO APPLICANTS AND THE INFORMATION IS THERE, UM, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDRESSING EQUITY.

BUT I THINK THAT'S ALSO ANOTHER WAY THAT OUR COMMISSIONERS CAN BE ENCOURAGED TO TAKE THAT FURTHER STEP IF THEY, THEY FEEL SO INCLINED TO DO PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AS WELL AND SHARE THAT INFORMATION.

YEAH, AND I'M HEARING AN INTEREST HERE IN A, A FUTURE STUDY SESSION ON HOW TO UPDATE THE PROGRAM ITSELF.

'CAUSE I'M GETTING A REMINDER FROM THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE OF SORT OF WHAT, WHAT OUR, UM, AGENDA, UM, IS FOCUSED ON TODAY, WHICH IS THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE 2026 PROGRAM.

BUT I'VE GOT A LOT OF, UM, GREAT NOTES AND FEEDBACK THAT YOU'VE ALL SHARED AND, UH, DEFINITELY WANNA MAKE SURE WE CREATE A WHOLE SPACE OF WHERE TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION TO BETTER INFORM THE PROGRAM ITSELF MOVING FORWARD.

I AGREE WITH THE ATTORNEY THERE.

UM, ALTHOUGH I DO HAVE A FEW COMMENTS.

AND GINA, AGAIN, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR THAT, UM, VERY DETAILED REPORT.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU BROKE IT DOWN, NOT ONLY INTO THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS, THE NINE DISTRICTS THAT WE HAVE, PLUS THE 18 HISTORICAL DISTRICTS.

AND AGAIN, THIS HAS BEEN GROWING OVER THE YEARS, WHICH REALLY GIVES OUR CITY UNIQUE BLEND OF HISTORICAL FABRIC AS WELL AS NEW MODERN CONSTRUCTION.

UM, LANDMARK STATUS ALSO IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT TODAY.

AND, UH, THERE WAS AN INSTANT THAT OCCURRED IN FRONT OF US.

UH, THE SIGN OF THE DOLLY VARDON WAS LANDMARKED, BUT THE BUILDING ITSELF WAS NOT, THIS WAS BACK IN 1995.

AND UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE THE BUILDING ITSELF WAS NOT LANDMARK, THE BUILDING WAS DESTROYED, IT WAS A FABRIC TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND SO LANDMARK STATUS IS, I THINK, VERY IMPORTANT, UH, AND ALSO NOT MAKING IT EASIER, BUT AGAIN, GIVING THEM RESOURCES TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.

UH, THE COOPER ARMS IS A LANDMARK BUILDING.

IT WAS BUILT IN 1923.

UH, AGAIN, OLDER BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, HAVE MAINTENANCE AND, UH, THE MILLS ACT DEFINITELY HELPS THESE, THESE OLDER BUILDINGS, UH, UM, AFFORD, YOU KNOW, MAJOR RETROFITS, WASTE LINES, ELECTRICAL, WHATEVER.

AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THE, UM, THE PROGRAM ITSELF HAS SHIFTED TO A HUNDRED PERCENT PARTICIPATION VERSUS WHEN THE VILLA RIVIERA HAD APPLIED.

WE DIDN'T HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT PARTICIPATION, BUT WE, UH, WERE, UH, AWARDED THE MILLS ACT EXEMPTION.

AND IT WAS VERY, UH, AGAIN, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S A FEATURE FOR NEW HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE BUYING INTO A, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY, AN EXPENSIVE PROPERTY.

BUT SECOND, IT ALSO GIVES, UH, ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO, TO AFFORD THESE, THESE, THESE

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PROJECTS.

UM, THE THING THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE ABOUT THE MILLS ACT, AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE US MAX OUT ON ALL OF THOSE CATEGORIES EACH YEAR INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVING, YOU KNOW, A FULL, A FULL SLATE, BUT IT SEEMS THAT THE MILLS ACT IS CONTAGIOUS.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT DISTRICTS LIKE CAL HEIGHTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND THAT AREA, UH, BLUFF, UH, BLUFF PARK, BLUFF HEIGHTS AS WELL, UH, THEY'RE VERY IN TUNE TO THESE SORT OF, UH, PROGRAMS AND, AND BENEFITS.

SO AGAIN, IT, IT IS CONTAGIOUS, BUT AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO SEED IT.

AND AGAIN, IF YOU'RE NOT IN A HISTORICAL DISTRICT, SOMETIMES YOU DON'T HAVE THAT SAME, UM, SUPPORT WITHIN YOUR, YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD STRUCTURE.

AND AGAIN, I AGREE THAT US AS COMMISSIONERS NEED TO HAVE CERTAIN PUBLIC OUTREACH.

UH, THE HISTORICAL DISTRICTS DO HOST A QUARTERLY MEETING AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS, AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO HAVE STAFF IN COMMISSION ATTEND PERIODICALLY JUST SO THAT THEY CAN PUT A NAME AND A FACE.

SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I REALLY SUPPORT.

BUT, UH, NOT TO BEATE THIS, THIS ITEM IN, IN KEEPING ON TRACK.

IF THERE'S NOT ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN PERSON, PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM AT THIS TIME.

FOR THIS ITEM.

SEEING NONE IN PERSON, UH, VIRTUALLY PLEASE.

IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FEATURE.

NOW, IF DIALING IN TELEPHONICALLY, PRESS STAR NINE.

SEEING NONE, THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.

MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL FOR THE VOTE.

COMMISSIONER PIZO, I CAN TAKE A VERBAL, UH, YES.

MADAM CLERK, PLEASE READ ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

UH, I THINK WE NEED TO, OKAY.

COMMISSIONER GFI BACK FIRST.

WE'VE CALLED HIM JUMPING THE GUN THERE, , AND I SAW THE MOTION WAS APPROVED.

AND CONGRATS TO ALL OF THE, UM, RECOMMENDED, UH, PROPERTIES.

ARE ANY OF THE APPLICANTS THAT RECEIVED THE MILLS ACT, UH, ARE HERE TONIGHT? IF YOU'D LIKE TO STEP TO THE PODIUM AND SAY HOW YOUR EXPERIENCE WAS, WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU.

I'M SORRY, THE ITEM HAS ALREADY CONCLUDED, SO WE CANNOT OPEN DIALOGUE, SO I'M HAPPY TO COME OFF SHARE.

MY PLEASURE.

TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE CULTURAL HERITAGE COMMISSION 2025 ANNUAL REPORT IN COMPLIANCE WITH CHAPTER 2.18 ADVISORY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, AND COMMITTEES OF THE LONG BEACH MUNICIPAL CODE, UH, COMMISSIONERS.

CONGRATULATIONS.

UM, MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A RECOMMENDATION

[5. 26-55530 Recommendation to receive and file the Cultural Heritage Commission 2025 Annual Report in compliance with Chapter 2.18 - Advisory Boards, Commissions, and Committees of the Long Beach Municipal Code. Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE.

YOU GOT IT.

IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER HUNTER AND COMMISSIONER PADILLA PEREZ.

ADVISORY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES IN THE CITY.

WE TURN IT OVER TO STAFF, PLEASE.

THANK YOU, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.

SO, UM, THIS REPORT IS TO HELP MEET OUR LEGAL COMPLIANCE WITH, UH, AN UPDATED SECTION OF THE CITY'S MUNICIPAL CODE REQUIRING AN ANNUAL REPORT FOR ALL NON-CHARTER COMMISSIONS IN THE CITY.

SO I'M GONNA PASS IT OVER TO MARISSA MOSHER, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL AND CULTURAL RESOURCES OFFICER, TO PROVIDE THIS ANNUAL REPORT PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU, ALLISON.

UM, LIKE ALLISON MENTIONED, THIS AGENDA ITEM PRESENTS THE 2025 ANNUAL REPORT FOR THE CULTURAL HERITAGE COMMISSION.

THE ANNUAL REPORT IS A NEW REQUIREMENT ESTABLISHED BY CITY COUNCIL FOR ALL NON-CHARTER COMMISSIONS IN THE CITY.

AND I'LL WALK THROUGH SOME BACKGROUND ON THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE ANNUAL REPORT, THE CONTENTS, AND THEN SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND NEXT STEPS AT THE END.

SO THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR THAT AN ANNUAL REPORT HAS COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION, AND THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S A NEWER REQUIREMENT IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE.

SO, FOR SOME BACKGROUND, IN DECEMBER OF 2023, CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED THE CITY CLERK AND THE CITY ATTORNEY TO BRING FORWARD POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS TO THE MUNICIPAL CODE RELATED TO

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AND THE PURPOSE OF THE CHANGES REALLY WAS TO STRENGTHEN TRANSPARENCY OF, UM, ALL BODIES THAT REPORT TO CITY COUNCIL AND TO CLEARLY DEFINE ROLES OF THE DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS IN THE CITY.

SO IN FEBRUARY OF 2024, AMENDMENTS TO THE MUNICIPAL CODE WERE RETURNED TO CITY COUNCIL, AND CHANGES WERE ADOPTED, INCLUDING THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE ANNUAL REPORT THAT'S THE SUBJECT OF THIS STAFF PRESENTATION.

SO THE UPDATE TO THE MUNICIPAL CODE, UM, OCCURRED AT, UM, CHAPTER TWO POINT 18, UH, AND SPECIFICALLY INCLUDED A SECTION AT TWO POINT 18.090, UH, TITLED REPORTS.

AND THIS CODE SECTION STIPULATES THE REQUIREMENT TO PREPARE AN ANNUAL REPORT FOR ALL NON-CHARTER BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, AND COMMITTEES THAT ARE ESTABLISHED BY CITY COUNCIL.

THE ANNUAL REPORT IS FOR THE PREVIOUS CALENDAR YEAR, SO REPORTING FROM JANUARY 1ST TO DECEMBER 31ST, 2025 IN THIS CASE.

AND THE ANNUAL REPORT IS REQUIRED TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY CLERK AND THEN FORWARDED TO CITY COUNCIL.

AND THE REPORT, UH, SHOULD CONTAIN SPECIFIC INFORMATION ABOUT EACH BODY.

SO THAT INCLUDES THE BODY'S, UM, OBJECTIVES AND FUNCTIONS, RECOMMENDATIONS, AND REPORTS THAT THE BODY MADE TO CITY COUNCIL, THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS AND PUBLIC HEARINGS HELD, THE ATTENDANCE OF MEMBERS, THE COST OF SUPPORTING THE BODY, AND THEN THE CITY PERSONNEL WHO ASSIST THE BODY IN RUNNING MEETINGS AND, UH, STAFFING AND A RECOMMENDATION ON WHETHER THE BODY SHOULD BE ABOLISHED, MODIFIED, OR CONTINUED.

SO THE CHC, AS YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH, HAS ESTABLISHED IN IN MUNICIPAL CODE CHAPTER 2.63, AND ITS PURPOSE IS TO RECOGNIZE, PROTECT, AND PROMOTE THE RETENTION, MAINTENANCE, AND USE OF HISTORIC LANDMARKS AND HISTORIC LANDMARK DISTRICTS.

SO THE COMMISSION MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL ON THE DESIGNATION OF LANDMARKS IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS, REVIEWS, MODIFICATIONS TO LANDMARKS, UM, OR BUILDINGS IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS THROUGH CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS AND ENCOURAGES PUBLIC INTEREST IN PRESERVATION.

SO THE COMMISSION CONSISTS OF SEVEN MEMBERS WHO ARE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY, WHO HAVE MANIFESTED A KNOWLEDGE AND INTEREST IN THE PRESERVATION OF THE CITY'S CULTURAL HERITAGE.

AND THE MEMBERS ARE APPOINTED FROM DISCIPLINES THAT RELATE TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

SO THAT MIGHT INCLUDE, UM, ARCHITECTURE, URBAN PLANNING, HISTORY AMONG A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT DISCIPLINES, AND IT INCLUDES, UH, LAY MEMBERS WITH A SPECIAL INTEREST OR EXPERIENCE IN PRESERVATION OR RELATED DISCIPLINES.

SO, SO IN TERMS OF THE CONTENTS OF THE ANNUAL REPORT THAT'S BEEN PREPARED, UM, THE ANNUAL REPORT LISTS THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE COMMISSION MADE TO CITY COUNCIL IN THE PRIOR YEAR.

SO IN JULY OF 2025, THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF A LANDMARK DESIGNATION AT 1 4 9 SIENNA DRIVE.

THAT'S THE PRESS TELEGRAM MODEL HOME, UH, MADE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL ON THAT DESIGNATION TO CITY COUNCIL AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF 13 MILLS ACT CONTRACTS, INCLUDING A CONTRACT FOR THAT RECOMMENDED LANDMARK FOR THE PRESS TELEGRAM HOUSE.

THE CITY COUNCIL HEARD THE CHCS RECOMMENDATION AND APPROVED THAT LANDMARK DESIGNATION AND THE MILLS ACT CONTRACTS IN OCTOBER OF 2025.

THE NEXT AREA OF THE ANNUAL REPORT RELATES TO, UH, MEETINGS OF THE COMMISSION.

SO A TOTAL OF EIGHT MEETINGS WERE HELD IN 2025 WITH REGULAR ATTENDANCE BY THE COMMISSION MEMBERS.

THE MEETINGS WERE HELD IN, UH, CIVIC CHAMBERS HERE AT CITY HALL OR OTHER ACCESSIBLE PUBLIC FACILITIES, AND WERE CONDUCTED IN A HYBRID FORMAT TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO ATTEND AND COMMENT IN PERSON OR REMOTELY.

AND THOSE MEETINGS ARE LIVE STREAMED AND RECORDED ON THE CITY WEBSITE.

SO PREPARING FOR REGULAR MEETINGS, INCLUDING IN THE HYBRID FORMAT, REQUIRES A NUMBER OF STAFF TO SUPPORT THE MEETINGS.

SO STAFFING FOR CHC INCLUDES PERSONNEL FROM A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE CITY.

THAT INCLUDES, UM, TWO CITY CLERK STAFF, TWO STAFF FROM THE TECHNOLOGY AND INNOVATION DEPARTMENT.

THOSE ARE THE FOLKS WHO HELP WITH THE AUDIO VISUAL FUNCTIONS OF THE MEETING, ONE DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.

AND THEN, UM, MULTIPLE STAFF FROM THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, INCLUDING ONE CLERK TYPIST, ONE SENIOR PLANNER, TWO MANAGERS, AND THEN BETWEEN ONE TO

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THREE PROJECT PLANNERS WHO ARE PRESENTING CASES BEFORE THE COMMISSION, DEPENDING ON THE AGENDIZED ITEMS AT THAT SPECIFIC MEETING.

SO BETWEEN 10 TO 13 STAFF MEMBERS FOR EACH CHC MEETING.

THE ANNUAL REPORT IS ALSO REQUIRED TO ADDRESS THE COST OF SUPPORTING THE COMMISSION.

SO THAT INCLUDES BOTH THE DIRECT COSTS FOR MEETING MATERIALS AND REFRESHMENTS AND THE PERSONNEL COSTS FOR THE STAFF TIME FOR RUNNING THE MEETINGS.

SO THE COSTS FOR MATERIALS AND REFRESHMENTS TOTALED, UH, $2,631 AND 47 CENTS FOR A TOTAL OF EIGHT MEETINGS IN 2025.

UH, THAT AVERAGE IS ABOUT $329 PER MEETING.

AND THEN FOR STAFF TIME, THE COST IS A RANGE DEPENDING ON THE STAFFING LEVEL FOR THE PARTICULAR MEETING, AGAIN, BASED ON THE NUMBER OF AGENDA ITEMS ON THE MEETING, ON THE AGENDA.

UM, SO THAT STAFF COST RANGES FROM $2,273 TO $2,530 PER MEETING, OR BETWEEN APPROXIMATELY 18,000 TO $20,000 FOR THE YEAR, UM, OVER EIGHT MEETINGS IN 2025.

AND THEN, UH, FINALLY, THE REPORT INCLUDES A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL ON, UH, WHETHER THE COMMISSION SHOULD CONTINUE.

SO THE, THE CHC HAS A NUMBER OF ROLES THAT ARE CRITICAL TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION IN THE, IN THE CITY.

THE WORK OF THE COMMISSION HELPS TO PRESERVE LONG BEACH'S HISTORY REVIEWS AND APPROVES APPROPRIATE AND COMPATIBLE ALTERATIONS TO HISTORIC PROPERTIES, UM, WHICH HELPS TO BALANCE NEW DEVELOPMENT WITH PRESERVATION IN THE CITY AND ENSURES THAT PRESERVATION IS MORE INCLUSIVE OF DIVERSE HISTORIES IN THE CITY.

UM, THIS INCLUDES EFFORTS LIKE THE MILLS ACT PROGRAM, LIKE WE'VE HEARD THIS EVENING.

ALSO, THE RACE AND SUBURBANIZATION HISTORIC CONTEXT STATEMENT, UH, CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS.

THE AGENDA ITEMS ON, UH, THIS EVENING ARE A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE IMPORTANT WORK OF THE COMMISSION.

SO FOR ALL OF THOSE REASONS, THE RECOMMENDATION IN, IN THE ANNUAL REPORT IS THAT THE COMMISSION SHOULD CONTINUE.

THERE ARE CONSIDERATIONS, THOUGH, AROUND THE HIGH COST OF RUNNING THE COMMISSION MEETINGS, PARTICULARLY WITH, UM, THE CITY'S FINANCIAL POSITION.

SO THE RECOMMENDATION IN THE ANNUAL REPORT IS TO CONTINUE THE WORK OF THE COMMISSION AND ALSO TO CONSIDER OPTIONS TO MAXIMIZE, UM, VALUE OF THE MEETINGS AND OR MINIMIZE THE COSTS OF RUNNING THE MEETINGS.

SO OPTIONS FOR THAT THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THE ANNUAL REPORT, UM, INCLUDE POTENTIAL CHANGES, UM, RELATED TO THE MEETING ITSELF, SO POTENTIALLY CHANGING THE MEETING DAY OR TIME FOR BETTER EFFICIENCY.

SO THAT MIGHT INCLUDE HOLDING THE CHC MEETING IN CONJUNCTION WITH ANOTHER RELATED MEETING.

SO CHC COULD BE HELD THE HOUR BEFORE A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO MAKE MORE EFFICIENT USE OF THE STAFF TIME AND RESOURCES THAT ARE NEEDED TO SET UP, UH, A MEETING.

IT COULD ALSO INCLUDE REDUCING THE FREQUENCY OF REGULAR CHC MEETINGS.

UH, MEETINGS RIGHT NOW ARE ON A MONTHLY SCHEDULE, UH, BUT THERE ARE C CANCELLATIONS ON A FAIRLY REGULAR BASIS, UM, DUE TO A LACK OF AGENDA ITEMS, UM, LIKE LAST YEAR WHERE THERE WERE EIGHT OUT OF A POTENTIAL 12 MEETINGS, UH, HELD.

SO THOSE MEETINGS COULD MOVE TO ONCE EVERY TWO MONTHS INSTEAD OF MONTHLY TO ENSURE THAT THERE ARE FULLER AGENDAS AT EACH MEETING.

ANOTHER OPTION THAT'S CONSIDERED IN THE REPORT IS REQUIRING A MINIMUM NUMBER OF AGENDA ITEMS IN ORDER TO HOLD A MEETING.

UM, WHEN STAFF IS LOOKING AT A MEETING AGENDA, WE ARE TRYING TO BALANCE, UM, MAKING SURE THAT THERE ARE TIMELY HEARINGS FOR APPLICANTS WITH CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS, AND ALSO MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S A ROBUST AGENDA FOR THE COMMISSION TO REVIEW.

UM, AND, AND SO THAT IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE AMOUNT OF STAFF TIME THAT IT TAKES TO SET UP AND RUN A MEETING.

UM, SO IF THERE, IF, UH, IF THERE IS A MINIMUM NUMBER OF AGENDA ITEMS THAT'S REQUIRED, THAT MIGHT PROVIDE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADDITIONAL STUDIES SESSIONS OR KIND OF REGULAR COMMUNITY UPDATES THAT COULD BE ADDED TO THE AGENDA.

UM, IF THOSE AGENDAS ONLY FEATURE ONE HEARING ITEM, FOR EXAMPLE, SO THAT MIGHT INCLUDE KIND OF A ROTATING UPDATE FROM DIFFERENT HISTORIC DISTRICTS, UH, AND THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING OR OTHER PRESERVATION GROUPS.

UM, OR AGAIN, KIND OF MORE STUDY SESSIONS ON SPECIFIC TOPICS OF INTEREST TO THE PUBLIC

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AND TO THE COMMISSION.

AND THEN FINALLY, UM, ONE MORE OPTION IS TO LOOK AT WORKING MORE CLOSELY WITH OTHER COMMISSIONS ON TOPICS THAT OVERLAP WITH THE WORK OF THE CHC.

SO THAT MIGHT INCLUDE STUDY SESSIONS OR OTHER INFORMATION SHARING WITH OTHER BODIES LIKE THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, UM, WHERE THERE ARE TOPICS, UM, THAT OVERLAP BETWEEN THOSE BODIES.

SO THESE ARE ALL OPTIONS FOR CONSIDERATION WITHIN THE ANNUAL REPORT.

THERE'S NOT A SPECIFIC, UH, DECISION OR RECOMMENDATION THAT'S BEING MADE, UM, ABOUT CHANGES TO THE WAY THAT THE CHC MEETINGS ARE BEING HELD.

UM, BUT WE DO THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO BRING FORWARD OPTIONS FOR CONSIDERATION GIVEN THE COSTS OF, OF RUNNING THE MEETINGS REGULARLY.

SO THE NEXT STEPS, UH, FOR THE ANNUAL REPORT, THE ACTION FOR THE COMMISSION THIS EVENING IS TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE ANNUAL REPORT.

STAFF WILL TRANSMIT THE ANNUAL REPORT TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE FOR FILING, AND IT WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR REVIEW.

UM, WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT, UM, POTENTIALS FOR MODIFICATIONS TO HOW THE COMMISSION MEETINGS TAKE PLACE, UM, INCLUDING WITH CITY COUNCIL'S RECOMMENDATIONS IF, IF THE COUNCIL CHOOSES TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES THAT ARE PROPOSED, BRING THOSE TO THE COMMISSION FOR CONSIDERATION IN THE FUTURE.

THAT CONCLUDES THE STAFF REPORT.

THANK YOU, MARISA, FOR THAT.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS REGARDING STAFF PRESENTATION? COMMISSIONER PEREZ HERE.

I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I AM IN SUPPORT OF ALL THE IDEAS THAT THE STAFF CAME UP WITH.

I THINK THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA DO OUR PART IN, UM, YOU KNOW, RELIEVING SOME OF THE IMPACT ON THE CITY BUDGET.

AND I THINK IF WE WORK TOWARDS, UM, CONDENSING THE AGENDAS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, MAYBE THAT FREES UP A LITTLE MORE TIME FOR US TO GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AS COMMISSIONERS RATHER THAN REPORTING TO A MEETING EVERY MONTH FOR A HANDFUL OF HOURS.

UH, VICE CHAIR GFI, UM, I, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

HOW, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO PREPARE THE C CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR, OR, OR GO THROUGH THE PROCESS ONCE AN ARCHITECT COMES TO YOU AND SAYS, WE NEED, WE NEED TO SUBMIT? UM, AND YOU, YOU DETERMINE THAT IT IS A SIGNIFICANT, SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO GO THROUGH THE CHC.

HOW LONG DOES THAT APPLICATION PROCESS TAKE? THERE ARE A LOT OF FACTORS THAT WEIGH INTO HOW LONG IT TAKES TO PROCESS ON AVERAGE.

WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? AN APPLICATION, I WOULD SAY, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS DEPENDS ON THE QUALITY OF THE PLANS THAT WE RECEIVE AND THE AMOUNT OF COMMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE ON THE PROJECT FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OKAY.

TO THE COMMISSION.

SO THERE'S SOME BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN STAFF AND THE APPLICANTS.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE, UM, INTERNAL LEADS TIMES FOR STAFF TO PREPARE STAFF REPORTS, AND THEN FOR THE STAFF REPORTS, UH, AND ALL THE MEETING MATERIALS TO GO THROUGH THE INTERNAL REVIEW PROCESS BEFORE IT'S AGENDIZED WITH THE COMMISSION.

SO, SO THAT, SORRY, GO AHEAD, ALLISON.

I WAS JUST GONNA ADD, IN ADDITION TO THE REPORT PREPARATION, THERE'S ALSO THE LEGAL NOTICING FOR ANY PUBLIC HEARING.

SO WE HAVE TO HAVE THOSE LEAD TIMES FOR NOTICING.

SO, UM, WE HAVE TO HAVE AN APPLICATION ESSENTIALLY COMPLETELY READY TO GO AT LEAST A MONTH AND A HALF BEFORE IT'S READY TO, UM, MOVE FORWARD ONTO AN AGENDA, UM, TO ENSURE WE MEET NOT ONLY OUR BROWN ACT, UM, OBLIGATIONS, UM, BUT ALSO OUR, OUR LEGAL NOTICING REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE CODE.

WHY WE ALSO ADDED THE RECOMMENDATION THAT IF, IF WE COULD SWITCH TO HAVING CHC ON THE SAME NIGHT AS PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY ACTUALLY MEET TWICE A MONTH.

SO, SO THIS, THIS SUGGESTION ADDS BASICALLY SIX MONTHS TO ANY PROJECT.

SO IF YOU'RE, IF YOU GOT A PROJECT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, YOU BRING IN, IT TAKES A MONTH TO, TO DRAW UP, GOES, GOES THROUGH SIX MONTHS JUST THROUGH THE, THROUGH HISTORIC PRESERVATION, AND THEN YOU GOT ANOTHER, YOU GOT ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, THREE, UH, MONTH OR TWO TO GO THROUGH THE CITY.

AND IT SEEMS EXCESSIVE THAT HIS GOING THROUGH HIS HISTORIC SEEMS LIKE AN EXCESSIVE, I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE AND I APPRECIATE IT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK YOU'RE, I THINK THIS IS A REAL BIG ASK FOR, FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO FOLLOW THE RULES AND, YOU KNOW, DO BE DILIGENT ABOUT GOING THROUGH THE, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

YEAH, I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS OF HOW WE BALANCE THOSE DIFFERENT PIECES.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

UM, SEVERAL OF US HAD CONCERNS IN THINKING ABOUT IF WE CHANGE THE FREQUENCY, LIKE, UM, ACCESS TO A TIMELY PROCESS.

THAT'S

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SO WE COULD ONLY AGENDA IF WE HAVE ITEMS, BUT DO IT KNOWING EVEN IF WE ONLY HAVE ONE HEARING ITEM, WE'RE ALREADY HOSTING ANOTHER MEETING.

AND SO YOU'VE GOT THE EFFICIENCIES THERE, BUT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE ACCESS TO EVEN MORE TIMELY POTENTIAL PROCESS.

BUT THAT HAS THE BALANCE AND TRADE OFFS THAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, UM, IN SOME OF THE OTHER CONTEXTS.

SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS AREN'T MEANT TO BE SORT OF ALL INCLUSIVE EITHER.

SOME OF THEM MAY NOT WORK WITH EACH OTHER, LIKE ONE KIND OF GOES AT ODDS TO THE OTHER, BUT ARE JUST KIND OF THERE FOR CONSIDERATION OF SOME OPTIONS.

UM, I CAN ALSO SHARE THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, LEVEL, LEVEL OF A NUMBER OF AGENDA ITEMS HAS EBBED AND FLOWED OVER THE YEARS.

AND AS WE CONTINUE TO SEE STATE LAW CHANGING, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN PROJECTS THAT WOULD'VE COME BEFORE YOU AS COMMISSIONERS WHEN I FIRST STARTED, CAN'T ANYMORE UNDER STATE HOUSING LAW, MANY OF OUR HISTORIC RESOURCES ARE, UH, RESIDENTIAL.

AND SO, UM, THERE ARE SOME OTHER JURISDICTIONS IN CALIFORNIA THAT ONLY HAVE THEIR COMMISSION MEETING A COUPLE TIMES A YEAR BECAUSE OF THEIR OBJECTIVE STANDARDS AND THEIR IMPLEMENTATION OF STATE LAW, WHERE, UM, YOU HAVE TO JUST KIND OF CONSIDER THOSE, UM, BALANCING OF ACCESS TO TIMELY PROCESS, BUT ALSO THE VOLUME OF WHAT, UM, IS ELIGIBLE TO COME BEFORE COMMISSION AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR HOW WE STRUCTURE THE MEETING.

SO YEAH, I THINK IT'S ALL GOOD FEEDBACK.

NONE OF THESE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, IMMEDIATE CHANGES, BUT, UM, ARE SOME OF THE INITIAL IDEAS THAT STAFF CAME UP WITH TO EXPLORE, UH, GIVEN THE RESULTS OF THE 2025 REPORT.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER PISO.

UM, I AGREE THESE ARE VERY INTERESTING THOUGHTS AND, AND IDEAS AND UM, I CERTAINLY SUPPORT, UM, MOVING FORWARD WITH, UM, STREAMLINING ANY PROCESS WE NEED.

BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS, AS WE DEVELOP THIS OR AS IT GETS DEVELOPED OR THINGS ARE DECIDED ON, IS THE COMMISSION GONNA BE SURVEYED, UM, OUTSIDE OF THESE MEETINGS TO, IN TERMS OF DATES AND THINGS? YOU KNOW, PLANNING MEETINGS ARE ON THURSDAY.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT AFFECTS US WHO HAVE PUT IN OUR CALENDAR EVERY LAST TUESDAY OF THE MONTH TILL WHENEVER YEAR WE DO.

UM, SO I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW WE WILL COME WITH THESE DECISIONS OR THEY WILL JUST HAPPEN AND WE HAVE TO SCRAMBLE .

NO, CERTAINLY IT, THIS WOULD DEFINITELY BE A PROCESS WHERE WE WOULD BE, UM, TALKING WITH YOU ALL ABOUT THE OPTIONS.

UM, YOU KNOW, I CERTAINLY, IT'LL BE A DELIBERATIVE DISCUSSION IN, IN PUBLIC, BUT WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT, UM, AS LONG AS IT'S ANONYMIZED AND, AND NOT SHARED WITH EACH OTHER, YOU KNOW, AND, AND COMPLIANT WITH BROWN ACT, OTHER WAYS TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK BESIDES FROM THE DAIS.

SO WE KIND OF UNDERSTAND YOUR CONSTRAINTS.

UM, AND NONE OF IT WOULD BE AN IMMEDIATE CHANGE.

IT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE LOOK, WOULD LOOK AT FOR A WHILE AND COULD ENSURE, BECAUSE WE WOULD ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE WE CAN HAVE QUORUM AND THAT THAT IT CONTINUES TO WORK, UH, FOR THOSE WHO ARE SERVING ON THE BODY OR THAT, UM, UH, TRANSITIONS CAN HAPPEN AS NECESSARY.

YEP.

TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS.

GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER PRYOR.

I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING THE, UH, MERGED OR WELL, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A MERGED MEETING, BUT ALSO LIKE A, UM, WHERE WHERE WE'RE GETTING TOGETHER, WE'RE SOMEHOW WORKING TOGETHER WITH OTHER COMMISSIONS.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY BENEFICIAL.

SO I DO REALLY LOVE THAT IDEA, BUT I DEFINITELY WOULD, UM, ECHO THE SENTIMENT THAT, UH, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD KEEP THE PUBLIC WAITING ANY LONGER THAN THEY NEED TO.

SO I'M CURIOUS IF, UM, THERE ARE ANY ALLOWANCES FOR NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT COULD MAYBE HELP SPEED UP MEETINGS AND MAYBE NOT REQUIRE AN IN-PERSON MEETING OR SOMETHING OF THOSE LIKE, YOU KNOW, VIDEO MEETINGS OR THINGS LIKE THAT IN ORDER TO GET QUICKER TURNAROUNDS FOR THE PUBLIC ON DECISIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH ALL THE LAWS AND REGULATIONS.

, YEAH, YOU, YOU READ MY MIND , THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE CHALLENGES RELATED TO BROWN ACT AND REQUIREMENTS, UM, FOR THAT, UM, QUORUM IN PERSON ATTENDANCE, UM, AND THE VARIOUS COMPONENTS OF BROWN ACT COMPLIANCE.

UM, CERTAINLY, UM, AS MARISSA MENTIONED FOR A PROJECT TO GET BEFORE YOU, IT IS A RANGE.

UM, SO IT DOES DEPEND ON, UM, THE LEVEL OF BACK AND FORTH, UM, THAT'S REQUIRED FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

UM, SO SOME, SOME CAN COME MUCH FASTER THAN OTHERS.

WE CAN CERTAINLY CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT AS WELL.

UM, BUT STAFF, YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, STAFF PROVIDING FEEDBACK AND THEN A WAITING PERIOD UNTIL AN APPLICANT COMES BACK WITH RESPONSE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S A BACK AND FORTH, UM, PROCESS.

BUT IT IS, I THINK, IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE IT IS AN ADDITIONAL, UM, TIME FACTOR WHEN A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS IS REQUIRED FOR A PROJECT.

AND THAT, UM, THAT IS PART OF THE, UM, TRADE OFF THAT WE'RE MAKING FOR HAVING THOSE, UM, PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS IN PLACE, IS THAT IT IS MORE, YOU KNOW, TIME AND MONEY FOR PEOPLE TO GET THROUGH THE PROCESS AND, AND CERTAINLY IS NOT LOST ON STAFF THAT WE NEED TO MINIMIZE THAT TO THE EXTENT WE CAN, UH, TO MINIMIZE THE BURDEN AND, AND TO CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE, UM, TO BE, UM, TO BE EXCITED ABOUT PRESERVATION AND

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UM, BUT I DO THINK IT'S HELPFUL FOR YOU AND THE PUBLIC TO HAVE TRANSPARENCY ON THAT IS A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH, AND IT IS A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME, UM, BEFORE SOMETHING GETS BEFORE THIS BODY.

ONE MORE QUESTION.

UM, COMMISSIONER PRYOR, UH, THE, THE NUMBERS DIDN'T LOOK OUTLANDISH TO ME IN TERMS OF STAFF AND THE DOLLARS BEING SPENT.

UM, HOW DOES THAT STACK UP AGAINST OTHER COMMISSIONS IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH IT'S COSTING? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I IMAGINE IT TO BE FAIRLY TYPICAL BECAUSE YOU DO NEED THE STAFF FROM TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT, FROM THE CITY CLERK, FROM THE HOSTING, UM, ORGANIZATION, UH, TO BE ABLE TO RUN THE MEETING.

UM, SO I IMAGINE IT'S, IT'S FAIRLY ON PAR.

UM, THERE ARE OTHER CHANGES BEING MADE TO, TO OTHER COMMISSIONS, YOU KNOW, THAT HAVE COME THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

SO, UM, THAT IS, YOU KNOW, UM, SOMETHING THAT'LL CONTINUE, UH, TO BE LOOKED AT.

UM, BUT I, YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP, BUT I IMAGINE IT TO BE RELATIVELY ON PAR.

UM, WE IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ARE MOSTLY FUNDED THROUGH, UM, OUR OR AN ENTERPRISE FUND, SO WE'RE FUNDED THROUGH FEES, UM, BUT FEES FOR, UH, A HEARING TO COME BEFORE YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE STAFF PLANNER TIME AND REVIEW OF STAFF REPORTS.

THEY DON'T NECESSARILY, UM, SPREAD THE, THE, THE FULL COST OF RUNNING A MEETING 'CAUSE THAT, YEAH, BECAUSE OF NEEDING TO BALANCE FEES AND COSTS AND THAT SORT OF THING.

SO, UH, IT'S SOMETHING FOR US TO LOOK AT AS WELL.

UM, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THIS REPORT.

THE STAFF HAS BEEN AWFUL BUSY THIS YEAR WITH THE, UH, A DU REPORT THAT'S GONNA BE COMING OUT AT THE END OF THE MONTH, INCLUDING THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM, WHICH, UH, I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO SEE, YOU KNOW, BASED ON, UH, THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH EVERY COMMISSION.

I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF ATTENDING THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING EARLIER THIS MONTH WHEN OUR MAYOR RICHNESS RICHARDSON SWORE IN THE COMMISSIONERS IN THE NEW FISCAL YEAR.

AND THERE WERE HUNDREDS OF COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH SO MANY DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS.

SO YOU HAVE THE BIG ONES, YOU KNOW, THE PLANNING, THE, THE PORT AUTHORITY AND SO ON.

BUT AGAIN, OUR COMMISSION IS, IS AGAIN, VERY UNIQUE.

UH, ONE OF THE DETAILS I SAW THAT THEY THOUGHT MAYBE COMBINING SOME COMMISSIONS, UH, SUCH AS THE CHC INTO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHICH I'M NOT SURE IF THAT WOULD BE A VERY GOOD IDEA BECAUSE WE'RE SOMEWHAT UNIQUE IN TERMS OF OUR TAKE ON, ON, YOU KNOW, PROJECTS THAT COME AFFORD, UM, IN FRONT OF US.

ONE TAKEAWAY THAT I DID, UH, REALIZE ON THIS REPORT IS THAT OUR ATTENDANCE IS EXCEPTIONAL, SO EVERYONE GETS A A GOLD STAR ON THAT REGARD.

SO WE'RE DOING OUR JOB, UH, ATTENDING MEETINGS, UH, STAFF AS WELL IS VERY PREPARED AND THOROUGH, AND I GOTTA SAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT REALLY KEEPS US IN LINE, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE HAVE TO MAKE HARD DECISIONS ON, UH, ON VOTING, NO ON C ON CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, WHERE THEN THE APPLICANT HAS TO COME BACK IN FRONT OF OUR COMMISSION THE FOLLOWING MONTH, OR IF WE ARE DARK, IT DOES CAUSE SOME ECONOMIC HARDSHIP.

SO, UM, I'M KIND OF OPEN WITH THE, THIS AGENDA ITEM THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, MANY ITEMS THAT YES, MAYBE WE GO DARK, BUT IT, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO HAVE A CONSISTENT, UH, PLANNING DATE, AS YOU MENTIONED, THE LAST TUESDAY OF EVERY MONTH, SO THAT WE CAN WORK ON OUR CALENDAR AS WELL AS, UH, THE APPLICANTS AS WELL.

UM, OTHER THAN THAT, UM, I JUST WANTED TO, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THIS REPORT.

THE CITY IS DOING THEIR JOB.

I WAS UNDER THE BELIEF THAT THE CITY HAS UNLIMITED RESOURCES, BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE, .

SO WE DO HAVE TO WATCH OUR P'S AND Q'S LOOKS LIKE A OUR OWN HOME BUDGET THAT WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY.

BUT IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS BY THE COMMISSION AND COULD, SORRY, IF I COULD, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR THAT POINT ON ATTENDANCE, BECAUSE ACTUALLY THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES CAN HAPPEN ON HEARINGS IS IF YOU WORK WITH AN APPLICANT FOR SIX MONTHS AND YOU THINK YOU HAVE A HEARING DATE AND THEN YOU REALIZE ACTUALLY WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO RUN THIS MEETING.

AND SO JUST, YEAH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UH, YOUR ATTENDANCE.

I THINK THAT IS SUPER IMPORTANT.

AND JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY ON THE RECORD, THE, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS NOT TO COMBINE THE TWO COMMISSIONS.

IT WAS TO HOST THE MEETINGS ON THE SAME NIGHT SO THAT ONE COMMISSION WOULD MEET AND THEN THE NEXT COMMISSION WOULD MEET AFTERWARDS.

AND THE IDEA THERE IS YOU SEE ALL THESE FOLKS THAT ARE IN THE CHAMBERS, IF WE'RE ALREADY HERE FOR ONE MEETING, THAT YOU COULD HAVE THEM STAY ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF COMING IN A WHOLE DIFFERENT NIGHT FOR A WHOLE SEPARATE SETUP TO HAVE ONE MEETING AND THEN HOST ANOTHER AFTERWARDS.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.

'CAUSE THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER COMMISSIONS WHERE THIS IDEA OF COMBINING IS HAPPENING AND IN FACT, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS ABSORBING ANOTHER, UM, COMMISSION, UM, THE BAC, UH, COMMISSION.

SO, UH, THIS IS A DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THAT WAS NOT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, BUT RATHER TO LOOK AT THE EFFICIENCY OF HOSTING

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TWO DIFFERENT COMMISSION MEETINGS, BUT ON THE SAME EVENING, UH, FOR EFFICIENCY PURPOSES.

BUT YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS, WOULD, WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THIS UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

IF THERE ARE ANY IN PERSON THAT WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM FIVE, PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM AT THIS TIME.

SEEING NONE IN PERSON, THIS IS YOUR CHANCE.

IF THERE ARE NONE, UH, VIRTUALLY HOLD, HOLD THE VIRTUAL FOR A MINUTE.

YOUR TIME STARTS NOW.

YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

UH, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS AGAIN.

JEFF MALLON, UH, LIVING IN BLUFF PARK, HISTORIC DISTRICT.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, I, I TRULY, I, I READ THIS REPORT AS WELL AND I THINK IT'S STELLAR.

I THINK IT'S REALLY WELL THOUGHT OUT, UM, AND, UH, WELL PRESENTED AS ALL REPORTS HAVE BEEN TODAY.

UM, I, I DO AGREE, UM, WITH COMMISSIONER PRIOR THAT THIS SEEMS RATHER LIKE A LEAN, UM, GROUP OF, UM, UH, OF STAFFING AND STAFF COSTS OVERALL.

I, I, I IN, AND, AND I ALSO APPRECIATE A COMMENT THAT, UM, ALLISON HAD SAID, UH, QUICKLY GLANCED OVER THAT, THAT THESE MEETINGS DO RETAIN A HYBRID, UM, PRESENTATION TO, TO THE, TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

UM, ALTHOUGH I WISH THERE WERE AN AUDIENCE MUCH LARGER THAN WHAT YOU HAVE TODAY.

UM, I THINK IT IS WONDERFUL THAT YOU OFFER BOTH A HYBRID AND AN IN-PERSON, UH, FOR THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.

UM, I ALSO, JUST IN GENERAL, I, I DO THINK THAT HAVING LESS FREQUENT MEETINGS, UM, CAN AFFECT DECISIONS AND CAN AFFECT THE PUBLIC PERCEPTION OF TIMELINESS.

I THINK, UM, MEETINGS EARLIER IN THE DAY, IF THEY HAPPEN EVEN SEQUENTIALLY, BUT ONE IS IN THE AFTERNOON OR DURING WORK HOURS, THAT CAN NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE PUBLIC.

UM, IF YOU PUSH ALL MEETINGS TO THE EVENING, THAT I THINK BACK TO BACK MIGHT WORK A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

BUT AFTERNOON, MORNING MEETINGS, I THINK ARE, ARE MORE CHALLENGING FOR WORKING PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC.

UH, PERSONALLY, I LOVE THE IDEA OF HAVING A MINIMUM ON NUMBER OF AGENDA ITEMS. AND I LOVE THE, THE THOUGHT AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF HISTORIC DISTRICT OF INCLUDING HISTORIC DISTRICTS, PRESERVATION GROUPS, AND MORE STUDY SESSIONS.

THE STUDY SESSIONS ARE SO EDUCATING NOT JUST FOR I'M SURE YOU ALL, BUT FOR THE PUBLIC.

UM, SO HAVING A MINIMUM NUMBER OF AGENDA ITEMS, I THINK ACTUALLY CHECKS OFF A NUMBER OF THOSE BOXES.

HOWEVER YOU, UM, HOWEVER YOU DECIDE.

BUT I THINK THIS IS A GREAT DISCUSSION AND THANK YOU FOR, FOR, FOR BRINGING IT UP.

THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS.

UH, MADAM CLERK, VIRTUALLY, IF THERE ARE ANY PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS AGENDA ITEM, IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FEATURE.

NOW, IF DIALING IN TELEPHONICALLY, PRESS STAR NINE NOW.

THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL FOR THE VOTE.

COMMISSIONER PISO, I CAN TAKE A VERBAL, I MEAN TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY.

UM, YES, THANK YOU.

NOW TAKE NON AGENDA ITEMS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

UH, AT THIS TIME WE'LL

[PUBLIC COMMENT Opportunity to address the Cultural Heritage Commission on non-agenda items. Each speaker is limited to three minutes to make their comments unless extended by the Chair.]

IF THERE ARE ANY IN PERSON, PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM AT THIS TIME.

FOR NON AGENDA, PUBLIC COMMENT, SEEING NONE IN PERSON VIRTUALLY, IF THERE IS ANYONE WISHING TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT ON A NON-AG AGENDA IS THE ITEM, PLEASE USE THE RAISE HAND FEATURE.

NOW, IF DIALING IN TELEPHONICALLY, PRESS STAR NINE NOW.

THE MEETING, I JUST HAVE A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS.

THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK, BEFORE I AD, UM, ADJOURNED

[ANNOUNCEMENTS]

UH, L WILL, OVER A YEAR AGO, WE APPROVED A COA FOR A HISTORICAL BANK BUILDING ON SECOND STREET.

UH, IT WAS VACANT AT THE TIME.

UH, A RESTAURATEUR, UH, PURCHASED IT AND OPENED UP A RESTAURANT SOUTH OF NICK'S.

UH, THEY JUST HAD THE RIBBON CUTTING JUST LAST WEEK.

UH, ALSO IT'S A MIXED USE WITH, UH, OFFICE SPACE IN ON THE TOP, BUT AGAIN, ADAPTIVE REUSE AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE DID SAVE A, A SIGNIFICANT, UH, ASSET IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND THEN SECOND, THE LONG BEACH HERITAGE ASSOCIATION IS HOSTING THEIR ANNUAL MEETING AT THE SCOTTISH RIGHT MASONIC TEMPLE AT 8 55 ELM.

IT'S A SIGNIFICANT BUILDING, UH, BUILT OVER A HUNDRED YEARS AGO.

UH, IT'S ALSO A LANDMARK

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AND THEY'RE CELEBRATING A HUNDRED YEARS AT THE MASONIC.

THE MEETING IS ON JULY THE 19TH, SUNDAY AT 2:00 PM FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE INTERESTED AT THIS TIME, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER ITEMS, UH, TASHA, GOOD NEWS THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE WITH US FOR A FEW MORE MONTHS.

UH, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, MAYOR RICHARDSON, UM, APPOINTS COMMISSIONERS TWICE A YEAR.

AND SO I ASSUME THAT YOU'LL BE WITH US FOR A FEW MORE MONTHS.

BUT ANYHOW, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU, UN UNLESS YOU, SOMEBODY HAS SOMETHING ELSE THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF.

BUT AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE

[ADJOURNMENT]

TO ADJOURN A MEETING FOR JUNE 30TH, 2026.

GOOD GAME.

, WE CAN NOW WATCH THE SOCCER MATCH.