* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:09] GOOD MORNING. WE'RE GONNA [CALL TO ORDER] CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. IT'S ABOUT NINE 18. UH, THIS IS THE RESOURCES COMMITTEE FOR JULY 16TH. UH, DINA, CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? [ROLL CALL] YES. CHAIR CORDERO. HERE. MEMBER AUSTIN HERE. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU. OUR REGULAR ITEM, UH, NUMBER [1. 26-55639 Recommendation to approve May 14, 2026 Resources Committee meeting minutes.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] ONE IS OUR APPROVAL OF THE MAY 14TH RESOURCE COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES. DO I HAVE A MOTION? SECOND, I'LL, I'LL SECOND THAT. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? ANY COMMISSIONER COMMENT? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OKAY. ON TO ITEM NUMBER TWO, [2. 26-55640 Recommendation to receive and file report on California Climate Action Corps and CLIMATE Network.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] RECEIVE AND FILE A REPORT ON CALIFORNIA CLIMATE ACTION CORE AND CLIMATE NETWORK. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE MOVE? SO MOVED BY, UH, COMMISSIONER AUSTIN. UH, I'LL SECOND NOW, WE WILL CALL, IT SAYS DEAN WANG. I ASSUME DEAN'S GONNA GIVE US AN INTRODUCTION. YES. I'LL ACTUALLY HAND THIS ITEM OFF TO JOSEPH RIZZO, WHO HAS, UH, BEEN INSTRUMENTAL AND, YOU KNOW, UH, ESSENTIALLY DONE ALL OF THE WORK IN, UH, ON THESE PROGRAMS. , CLUTCH. UH, GOOD MORNING, UH, COMMISSIONERS, COMMITTEE MEMBERS. UM, YES, THANK YOU, DEAN. THE, UH, THE PRESENTATION TODAY, I'M GONNA GO OVER A LITTLE BIT OF OUR BACKGROUND WITH OUR CALIFORNIA CLIMATE ACTION CORPS AND HOW THEY'VE BEEN INFLUENTIAL, UM, IN DEVELOPING OUR NEW LONG BEACH NETWORK, UM, UH, PROGRAM PROJECT, I GUESS YOU CAN CONSIDER THAT IT'S REALLY A NETWORK. WE'LL GO INTO IT THOUGH. SO, UH, AS I MENTIONED, WE'LL GO OVER OUR BACKGROUND, OUR CURRENT CCAC FELLOWS, UM, HOW THEY DIDN'T WORK IN OUR COMMUNITY, THEIR ACTIONABLE ITEMS, UH, THEIR SUCCESSES FROM A METRICS STANDPOINT, UM, AND HOW ALL THE WORK THAT THEY'VE BEEN INFLUENTIAL IN CREATING IS, UH, BASED OFF OF A FOUNDATION TO CREATE THE NEW NETWORK THAT WE HAVE TO PRESENT TO YOU. AND ALSO, UH, AN INVITATION TO YOU ON THE, THE COMMITTEE CHAIRS AS WELL AS THE COMMITTEE, AND ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WANTS TO TAKE SOME ACTIONABLE COMMUNITY ACTION, UH, TODAY, OR EXCUSE ME, SATURDAY. AND THEN, UM, HOW WE SUPPORT OUR BUSINESS PLAN. THE, UH, PHOTO HERE ON THE RIGHT IS ACTUALLY A PICTURE OF THE FIRST, UH, WORKDAY THAT WE HAD WITH, UH, CALIFORNIA CLIMATE ACTION CORPS FELLOWS, AS WELL AS, UM, OUR SURF RIDER, UH, CONTRACTOR. UM, THIS WAS INSTALLED WITH THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS INSIDE OF LONG BEACH, AND IT WAS ROUGHLY ABOUT A, UH, A TWO, TWO DAY WORKDAY. UM, THAT INCLUDED ABOUT 30, 40 VOLUNTEERS. SO, UM, AS YOU MAY HAVE REMEMBERED WHEN I PRESENTED ABOUT THE CALIFORNIA CLIMATE ACTION CORPS, A COUPLE BOARD MEMBERS AGO TO GATHER YOUR APPROVAL FOR OUR NEXT COHORT. UM, THE AMERICORPS SERVICE PROGRAM IS PART OF, UM, CALIFORNIA VOLUNTEERS AND IS FUNDED BY CALIFORNIA VOLUNTEERS. UH, THE MAIN PURPOSE OF OF THAT INITIATIVE IS TO ADDRESS AND MITIGATE THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE. AND WE'RE SUPPORTING, UH, CALIFORNIA VOLUNTEERS AND CCAC FOR THE PAST, UH, EXCUSE ME, IT'S EIGHT YEARS, OR EXCUSE ME, NINE YEARS, UM, 11 YEARS. I CAN'T DO MATH TODAY, BUT SINCE 2017, UM, IN THAT TIME, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HOST NINE DIFFERENT FELLOWS. AND, UH, WE ARE ACTUALLY BEEN APPROVED FOR TWO NEW FELLOWS FOR 2026 AND 2027. UH, THEY'LL BE SITTING RIGHT ACROSS THIS WALL NEXT TO THE KITCHEN WHERE THE CURRENT FELLOWS ARE. SO YOU CAN GO OVER THERE AND MEET THEM. HAPPY TO INTRODUCE YOU WHEN THE NEW FELLOWS START. UM, BUT AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE, UH, THEIR CURRENT FELLOWS, AND UNFORTUNATELY THEY COULDN'T BE HERE. UM, BUT I'LL INTRODUCE YOU TO THEM VIA PHOTOS IN A SECOND. UM, THE OTHER PHOTO THAT WE HAVE HERE, UH, ON THE RIGHT SIDE IS ACTUALLY THE THIRD, UM, MAINTENANCE TECHNICAL EDUCATION AND MAINTENANCE PER, UM, DAY WORKDAY THAT WE HAD WITH A, UH, SURF RIDER, THE CCAC FELLOWS, AS WELL AS A, UH, PROFESSIONAL, UM, LANDSCAPE CONTRACTOR. AND THAT LANDSCAPE CONTRACTOR WAS ABLE TO EDUCATE ALL OF THE VOLUNTEERS ABOUT HOW TO MAINTAIN NATIVE PLANTS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. THE BENEFIT OF HAVING THEM COME TO THIS SITE IS, THIS WAS A SITE THAT ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH OUR DIRECT INSTALL GARDENS PROGRAM, WHICH WE HOST WITH FUNDING FROM USBR AS WELL AS METROPOLITAN WATER DISTRICT. WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT. BUT THESE ARE OUR FELLOWS. UM, LIKE I MENTIONED TODAY IS THEIR GRADUATION. SO TIMING WAS IDEAL, [00:05:01] NOT IDEAL FOR THEIR, THEIR ANXIETY, I GUESS YOU CAN CALL IT THAT. UM, WE WERE HOPING TO HAVE THEM PRESENT TODAY, BUT INSTEAD HERE THEY ARE. ON THE LEFT IS, UH, HALEY DURAN. SHE'S ACTUALLY GOING TO PURSUE, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE AND POLICY MASTER'S AT OREGON STATE AFTER HER TERM IS UP, UM, IN THE NEXT MONTH. AND THE MIDDLE IS EMILY ARCOS. SHE'S GOING TO BE PURSUING A MASTER'S DEGREE IN GIS. UM, SO THE GIS PORTION OF THE WORK THAT CCAC FELLOWS COMPLETE IS HELPING US TO MEET OUR STATE COMPLIANCE WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR URBAN WATER USE OBJECTIVE REPORTING. SO WE'RE SET BASICALLY A BUDGET FOR OUTDOOR IRRIGATION. THEY HELP, UM, IDENTIFY THE AREAS THAT ARE IRRIGABLE LANDSCAPE WITHIN THE SERVICE AREA, SO THEN WE CAN REPORT TO THE STATE BACK ON HOW WE'RE COMPLYING WITHIN THAT BUDGET. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO, UM, HALEY FOX ON THE FAR RIGHT. SHE'S ACTUALLY LEAVING CALIFORNIA. SHE'S GOING TO PURSUE A MASTER'S IN SOCIAL WORK IN WASHINGTON. SO SOME GREAT PHOTOS FROM THEIR SERVICE TIME HERE FOR 25 AND 26. UM, IT'S VERY POPULAR. UH, THESE PHOTOS THAT ARE WITHIN THE MARINA THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH LONG BEACH PARKS REC MARINE, THEY'VE BEEN THE MOST, UH, SUPPORTIVE, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY, OF THE CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE LOOKING TO REMOVE TURF. IT'S NON-FUNCTIONAL WITHIN THE CITY BOUNDARY. AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED WITH LONG BEACH CLIMATE NETWORK, THE SURF RIDER VOLUNTEER PROGRAM, AS WELL AS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE CCAC FELLOWSHIP TO ASSIST IN GATHERING VOLUNTEERS IN HOSTING THIS TYPE OF WORK. SO FOR THIS, UH, THIS PERIOD OF 25 AND 26, THE CCAC FELLOWS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ASSIST IN THE REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION OF REMOVING NON-FUNCTIONAL TURF, AS WELL AS 11,462 SQUARE FEET OF THAT BEING INSTALLED WITH, WITH NATIVE PLANTS. SO A VERY LARGE AMOUNT OF AREA THAT THEY'VE DONE CAN, AGAIN, IN TOTAL, IT TURNS OUT BE ROUGHLY SIX DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT THEY'VE WORKED ON, UH, DURING THEIR TERM HERE IN THAT TIME, THEY RE UH, PLANTED 18 TREES, A THOUSAND NATIVE PLANTS. AND THAT'S ALSO A COMBINATION OF, UH, THE VOLUNTEER GATHERING THAT THEY'VE CONNECTED WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WITH SURF RIDER. SO THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO ENGAGE 500 DIFFERENT PEOPLE AT THESE EVENTS TO PROMOTE OUR PROGRAMS, PROVIDE TECHNICAL EDUCATION ON HOW THOSE PROGRAMS WORK, HOW PEOPLE CAN GET INVOLVED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE HANDS-ON EDUCATION ON HOW THEY CAN IMPLEMENT, UM, ON THEIR OWN PROPERTIES OR WITHIN THE CITY. SO, UM, HOW DID WE GET HERE? I GUESS WE CAN, I WANT TO CONNECT WITH YOU THE BASELINE OF HOW OUR, OUR CUSTOMER BASE AND LONG BEACH UTILITIES HAS BEEN WANTING TO DEVELOP SOME TYPE OF CLIMATE OPPORTUNITY OR CLIMATE NETWORK REALLY, UH, FOR OUR PRIVATE ENTITIES, OUR PUBLIC ENTITIES, AS WELL AS OUR, OUR RESIDENTS. SO, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A SERIES OF DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT SUPPORT ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT, UH, LANDSCAPING, UH, MEASURES, WHETHER THAT BE TURF REMOVAL, NATIVE PLANT INSTALLATION, OR, UM, DEVICE INSTALLATION THAT IMPROVES, UH, WATER EFFICIENCY THROUGH IRRIGATION. AND THE LAWN AND GARDEN PROGRAM, AS YOU KNOW, IS A DIRECT INSTALL APPLIANCE, OR EXCUSE ME, A DIRECT INSTALL PROGRAM THAT, UM, IS MORE OF A, A, EXCUSE ME, NOT A DIRECT INSTALL PROGRAM, A DO IT YOURSELF PROGRAM FOR RESIDENTS WHO ARE WISHING TO REMOVE TURF AND RECEIVE A, A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SQUARE FEET, UM, DOLLARS PER SQUARE FOOT THAT THEY REMOVE. THAT IS A, UH, A VERY HEAVY LIFT FOR A LOT OF CUSTOMERS THAT DON'T REALLY KNOW WHERE TO START. UM, SO BEING ABLE TO FIND AN AVENUE TO OUTREACH TO THOSE CUSTOMERS THAT NEED ASSISTANCE, WHETHER THAT BE PRIVATE OR WHETHER THAT BE PUBLIC, THIS NEW PROGRAM WILL BE ABLE TO HELP THEM ASSIST WITH THAT. THE NATIVE PLANT PARKWAY PROGRAM, VERY SIMILAR TO THE LAWN GARDEN PROGRAM. WHAT THAT DOES IS WE PROVIDE MATERIALS BASED OFF OF CERTAIN KITS THAT CUSTOMERS WILL WANT TO INSTALL AND THEIR PARKWAY, THE AREA BETWEEN THE STREET AND THE, UH, SIDEWALK OF, OF, UH, RESIDENTIAL HOMES, MAINLY IN LONG BEACH. UM, WE PROVIDE THOSE MATERIALS AND THEN THE CUSTOMER INSTALLS THE, THOSE MATERIALS THEMSELVES ONCE THEY REMOVE THOSE TURF, THAT TURF. SO THIS PROGRAM AGAIN, OR THIS NETWORK, EXCUSE ME, IS GONNA CONNECT THAT FOR, UH, THROUGHOUT THE CITY. AND THEN THERE'S FINALLY THE DIRECT INSTALL GARDENS PROGRAM. THIS PROGRAM IS UNIQUE IN THE FACT THAT IT'S [00:10:01] RAN BASICALLY OFF OF FUNDING FROM METROPOLITAN WATER DISTRICT AS WELL AS USBR. THOSE, UM, THAT PROGRAM IS A PROCESS WITH A CONTRACTOR AND WITH, UH, CURRENTLY WITH, UH, CALIFORNIA, UM, CALIFORNIA CONSERVATION CORPS AT LONG BEACH, UM, WHO IS HELPING INSTALL THOSE GARDENS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. UM, AND AS I MENTIONED BEFORE IN THE PREVIOUS PHOTOS, WE'VE TAKEN IT A STEP FURTHER FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE APPLIED FOR THE DICK PROGRAM THAT MAY NEED ASSISTANCE IN MAINTENANCE, IN GIVING THEM THE TECHNICAL EDUCATION TO HELP WITH THAT MAINTENANCE THROUGH THIS NEW NETWORK. AND THEN, UH, METROPOLITAN WATER DISTRICT IS INFLUENTIAL FOR ALL OF THESE BECAUSE THEY PROVIDE MAINLY THE FUNDING WHERE NOT ONLY THE TURF REMOVAL PROGRAM AT A DOLLAR PER SQUARE FOOT REBATE, BUT ALSO THE DIRECT INSTALL GARDENS PROGRAM. SO ALL THESE THINGS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO CONNECT BACK TO THE CUSTOMER AND TO THE UTILITY. WHAT THAT ENDS UP BEING IS HOW DO WE GET THE CONNECTION WITH, FROM A MARKETING STANDPOINT AND ALSO FROM A, UM, EDUCATIONAL STANDPOINT, UH, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF CALIFORNIA CLIMATE ACTION CORPS TO OUTREACH, EVEN COLD CALL, UH, COMMERCIAL ENTITIES THAT MAY HAVE NON-FUNCTIONAL TURF WITHIN THEIR PROPERTIES. SO THAT ONE, WE CAN IDENTIFY THEM AS NON-FUNCTIONAL TURF, TWO, GO OUT TO THEIR PROPERTIES, MEASURE THE IRRITABLE AREA, AND THEN THREE, PROVIDE THEM WITH A LIST OF DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT THEY CAN APPLY FOR SO THAT WE CAN ASSIST THE, THEY CAN ASSIST OUR COMPLIANCE FOR THE STATE NOW THAT THAT EFFORT ITSELF IS VERY HEAVY, UM, FOR WHAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. AND THERE'S STATE COMPLIANCE RULES THAT WE HAVE TO MEET BY 2027 AND ALL THE WAY THROUGH 2030. AND THERE IS A LOT OF LABOR THAT GOES ALONG WITH THE EITHER, UH, EXCHANGING TURF ON PROPERTIES AND INSTALLING NEW NATIVES OR, UM, FINDING OUT A, A MEANS TO BE EDUCATED ON HOW ALL THESE THINGS WORK. AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO IS CONNECT WITH SURF RIDER FOR THIS SITUATION, FOR THE, FOR THIS NETWORK. SO SURF RIDER CAN ACTUALLY BRING IN THE VOLUNTEERS THAT WERE NEEDED SO THAT WE CAN INSTALL, UH, AND HAVE, LET'S SAY, 3000 SQUARE FEET OF TURF REMOVED BY THE, UH, PRIVATE OWNER. AND THEN THE VOLUNTEERS COME IN TO INSTALL THAT 3000 SQUARE FEET WITHIN THREE HOURS. SO YOU COULD IMAGINE YOURSELVES, IF YOU'RE AT YOUR OWN PROPERTY, OF HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE YOU TO DO A SURF REMOVAL PROJECT ON YOUR, IN YOUR FRONT YARD WITH ALL THE DESIGN, DISCUSSION AND PLANNING AND MATERIALS PROCUREMENT AND ALL, ALL THE ACTUAL INSTALL THIS, UH, THIS PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE SET UP WITH SURF RIDERS. THEN TURNING INTO THAT ALL IN ONE, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR CUSTOMERS. SO THIS IS WHAT OUR NEW, UH, NETWORK LOGO LOOKS LIKE. UM, I WANT TO THANK PUBLIC AFFAIRS FOR MAKING THIS LOOK AWESOME. AND ALSO WORKING THROUGH THE IDEA OF A, OF A NAME. I THINK THE MA THE MAJORITY OF THE EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS THAT WE WORK ARE PROGRAM SPECIFIC. AND WHAT WE'VE JUST TALKED THROUGH ABOUT IS THIS IS ACTUALLY MORE OF A NETWORK THAN MORE OF A PROGRAM FOR THE, FOR THE COMMUNITY. UM, THIS IS A PLACE WHERE PRIVATE ENTITIES OR UM, COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL OR PUBLIC ENTITIES, UM, INSTITUTIONAL ENTITIES CAN COME AS A, UH, AS A MEANS FOR AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO FIND SOMEWHERE THAT THEY CAN HAVE A GUIDANCE. ONE TO GIVE YOU HOW MUCH MONEY YOU CAN GIVE BACK FOR A PROGRAMMATIC STANDPOINT FROM OUR LAWN GARDEN PROGRAM. HOW CAN YOU FIND A DESIGNER THAT CAN HELP YOU, UH, WORK THROUGH THAT DESIGNS, UM, HURDLE? HOW CAN YOU FIND LABOR TO INSTALL ALL THESE, UH, THESE PLANTS ON THEIR PROPERTY? AND THEN HOW DO YOU FIND THE ABILITY TO MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY AFTER A YEAR OR TWO YEARS ONCE IT'S BEEN INSTALLED? WHAT DO YOU NEED TO DO? WHAT'S THE TECHNICAL EDUCATION THAT'S NECESSARY TO MEET SO THAT ALL THIS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH OF LANDSCAPE SURVIVES AND, UM, THRIVES? SO AS MOST PROGRAMS AND GO, WE HAVE TO HAVE MEANINGS FOR OUR AN ACRONYM. SO THE COMMUNITY LANDSCAPE INSTALLATION, MAINTENANCE ACTION, AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION IS WHAT CLIMATE STANDS FOR. THAT'S THE LONG BEACH CLIMATE NETWORK, IS OUR NEW NETWORK. AND THEN, AS I MENTIONED, UH, WE HAVE, UH, TWO DIFFERENT, UH, TECHNICAL EDUCATION CLASSES AS WELL AS ACTIONABLE ITEMS COMING THIS SATURDAY. YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO JOIN. WE HAVE OUR, UH, GARDEN DESIGN SEMINAR HERE AT, ON THE FIRST FLOOR IN THE MEETING ROOM, AND THEN ALSO AT SHORELINE DRIVE. WE'LL BE INSTALLING ROUGHLY ABOUT 2,500 SQUARE FEET OF NATIVE PLANTS, UM, ALONG THE MARINA [00:15:01] WITH LONG BEACH, UH, PARKS, REC AND MARINE. AND THEN, UH, FINALLY, OUR, OUR BUSINESS PLAN SUPPORT HERE. UM, OUR EXEC, OUR OBJECTIVES FOR OUR WORKPLACE CULTURE, UM, AND OUR INITIATIVES ARE TO INCREASE KNOWLEDGE AND SKILLS, CAREER DEVELOPMENT AND STAFF COMPETENCIES. UM, THAT MEASURE AND ACTION IS MEASURED BY THE IMPLEMENTING INTERNSHIPS, FELLOWSHIPS, AND VOLUNTEER PROGRAMS TO FOSTER THE DEVELOPMENT AND SUPPORT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE WITH NOT ONLY THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO WITH OUR CCSC FELLOWSHIP. AND THERE'S ALSO OUR CUSTOMER OBJECTIVE WHERE WE'RE PROMOTING INITIATIVE, POLICY AND PROGRAMS AND LOOKING TO OFFER CUSTOMER PROGRAMS TO PROMOTE RESOURCE USE EFFICIENCY. AND WE'RE DOING THAT HERE WITH OUR COLD WATER MEASURES ON THE SIDE FOR OUR UTILITY. UM, SO WITH THAT, UM, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO HAVE A DISCUSSION HERE ABOUT HOPING THAT YOU ALL SUPPORT THIS NEW NETWORK, BUT ALSO MORE ALONG THE LINES OF IF YOU HAVE ANY OPPORTUNITY AND, UH, SECTORS THAT YOU WORK WITH OUTSIDE OF THE UTILITY THAT WOULD BE WANT TO BE INVOLVED WITH THIS CLIMATE NETWORK AND MAYBE HAVE A PROJECT DONE ON THEIR PROPERTIES, WE'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO TAKE THAT IN AS, UM, AS A REFERENCE AND LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM. GREAT. THANK YOU JOEY, VERY MUCH. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'M SORRY. ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. SEEING NONE IN PUBLIC, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THE FELLOWSHIP IS, UH, UH, WORTHWHILE AND AND PRODUCTIVE, BOTH FOR OUR COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO THE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT ARE BENEFITING AND LEARNING, UM, PROVIDING THEIR, THEIR INSIGHT AND THEIR, THEIR EXPERTISE OR DEVELOPING THEIR EXPERTISE FOR OUR, OUR DEPARTMENT, UM, AND CITY. IT DOESN'T SURPRISE ME THAT, THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF, UH, PARKS, RECREATION AND MARINE IS THE BIGGEST BENEFACTOR OF THIS BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALL THE LAND SPACE. UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY, I THINK, IN THE FUTURE WHEN YOU LOOK AT, UM, LIKE I CAN THINK OF ABOUT FIVE MEDIANS, UM, AND THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT COULD REALLY UTILIZE THIS, THIS, UH, SERVICE. AND SO, UM, YEAH, KEEP, KEEP IT UP. GREAT WORK, GREAT WORK AND REALLY DIS DISAPPOINTING THAT WE DIDN'T GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET THE FELLOWS THEMSELVES AND PERSONALLY AND THANK THEM. UM, HOPEFULLY THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO COME BACK AT SOME POINT, BE RECOGNIZED. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, AUSTIN. UH, THANK YOU JOEY. THAT WAS GREAT. I, I HAVE, I, I'M VERY INTERESTED IN THIS PRO PROGRAM. UM, ONE, I'D LIKE THAT YOU LINKED THE BUSINESS PLAN TO THIS VERY END, SO THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S REALLY GOOD FOR US TO HEAR THAT LINKAGE, SO APPRECIATE THAT. SECONDLY, JUST A QUESTION, THIS MAY NOT APPLY TO US, BUT THE CITY USED TO HAVE RAIN BARRELS AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE PROJECTION WITH THE WEATHER, WE, WE PROJECT WILL HAPPEN WITH RAIN. IS THERE SOME SORT OF DISCUSSION ON BRINGING THOSE BACK? 'CAUSE I KNOW THEY HAD IT FOR A WHILE. I THINK THEY, THEY STOPPED IT. WE STILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, COMMERCIAL ENTITIES, UH, PUBLIC AGENCY ENTITIES AND RESIDENTIAL ENTITIES TO APPLY. COOL. UM, IT'S ACTUALLY A RANGE BETWEEN RAIN BARREL AND CISTERN. SO I BELIEVE IT GOES AS LOW AS 50 GALLONS. UH, RAIN BARREL ALL THE WAY UP TO A THOUSAND GALLONS CISTERN. UM, THOSE, THE FUNDING FOR THAT REBATE FLUCTUATES BASED OFF OF THE SIZE THAT YOU PURCHASE. UM, WE PROVIDE SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING TO METROPOLITAN WHEN AN APPLICANT APPLIES ON, UH, SOL WATER SMART, WHICH IS METROPOLITAN'S HOSTED WEBSITE. SO YOU GO THROUGH THAT'S THE WEBSITE. EXACTLY. YOU GO THROUGH NOT LONG BEACH PARKS AND REC OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. EXACTLY, YEAH. IT GOES THROUGH THERE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM, THE LAST THING IS, I, I ALWAYS LOVE WHEN YOU INCLUDE PARTNERSHIPS AND SURF RIDER EMPLOYEE, HOW MANY VOLUNTEERS DO THEY HAVE? DO YOU KNOW? WELL, THEIR, THEIR VOLUNTEER NETWORK IS, IS GIGANTIC. UM, I WILL SAY THAT THE WORKDAYS THAT I'VE BEEN TO, I HAVE SEEN NEW FACES EVERY SINGLE TIME I'VE COME, AND THERE'S MAYBE TWO OR THREE THAT ARE CONSISTENT THAT LOVE DOING THAT TYPE OF WORK. BUT YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE STRETCHING ACROSS HUNDREDS OF DIFFERENT VOLUNTEERS THAT, THAT COME IN. UM, WE'VE HAD, I THINK THE MAXIMUM THAT WE'VE HAD COME IN WAS ROUGHLY ABOUT 61, UM, TWO WORKDAYS AGO. BUT, UM, WHAT'S NICE ABOUT SURF RIDER IS THEY ALSO HAVE, FOR THIS NEW NETWORK, THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO CONNECT WITH, UH, LANDSCAPE CONTRACTORS THAT CAN DO DESIGN WORK AS WELL AS BRING IN THEIR STAFF IF NECESSARY FOR ASSISTANCE IF THE VOLUNTEER GROUP CAN'T DO THAT PARTICULAR TYPE OF WORK. SO IF THEY MAY HAVE TO USE SOME HEAVY MACHINERY OR THEY NEED TO DO SOME IRRIGATION WORK, THEY CAN BRING IN THAT TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AS WELL. THEN ALSO USE AS, AS AN EDUCATIONAL MEASURE FOR THE VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE THERE SO THEY [00:20:01] CAN SEE HOW THINGS ARE INSTALLED OR HOW THINGS ARE DONE. GREAT. I, YEAH, I'VE ALWAYS HEARD OF THEM. AND, UM, SO THEY DO HAVE STAFF IN AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S, I KNOW THEY'RE VERY ACTIVE. . YEAH. UM, THIS IS JUST AN IDEA. I, I'M GONNA THROW IT OUT, DIANA. UM, MAYBE AT SOME POINT WHEN WE DO A LOCAL INSPECTION TRIP, WE CAN THINK ABOUT INVITING SOME OF THE SURF RIDER FOUNDATION, EITHER STAFF OR BOARD OR WHOMEVER HAVE THAT. THAT'D KIND OF BE A GREAT START AND EXTENSION OF WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE HERE. SO, GREAT. GOOD WORK. THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE THAT. UM, SO SEEING NO OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS, UM, I THINK WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALRIGHT. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR IS, AYE, WE'VE DONE THAT. AYE. OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU SO MUCH, JOY. HEY, OUR FINAL IS RECEIVE AND FILE A REPORT ON [3. 26-55641 Recommendation to receive and file report on proposed Signal Hill Water Delivery Agreement.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] THE PROPOSED SIGNAL HILL WATER DELIVERY AGREEMENT. UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION? OKAY, MOTION. UH, AND A SECOND, I'LL SECOND THAT. AND WE WILL CALL ON DEAN WANG WHILE ELI GRABS THE CLICKER FOR ME, I'LL TEE UP THIS ITEM. UH, SO, UH, STAFF HAS BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY OF SIGNAL HILL FOR, UM, PROBABLY OVER A YEAR NOW, UH, EXPLORING THE, THE POTENTIAL FOR, YOU KNOW, MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO SUPPLY SIGNAL HILL WITH OUR, UM, THROUGH, THROUGH OUR GROUNDWATER INFRASTRUCTURE. AND SO, UH, THIS IS A PROPOSED WATER DELIVERY AGREEMENT. UM, THE EXACT TERMS ARE STILL, UH, UNDER NEGOTIATION, UH, BUT I WANTED TO PRESENT THIS, UH, TO THE COMMITTEE, UH, FOR FEEDBACK OR INPUT, UM, SHOULD THERE BE ANY, UH, DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD. UH, BUT, UH, ESSENTIALLY, UH, WE'RE STILL IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH SIGNAL HILL AND IF, IF THINGS GO WELL, UM, THEN I WOULD BE BRINGING THIS ITEM BACK TO BOARD, UH, AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING FOR, UH, BOARD ACTION. YOU HAVE A QUESTION? OKAY. OKAY. SO, UH, AS I MENTIONED, UH, THIS AGREEMENT IS BEING PROPOSED BECAUSE IT IS A MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL OPPORTUNITY, NOT JUST FOR LONG BEACH AND SIGNAL HILL, BUT ALSO FOR THE BROADER REGION. UH, AND SO FOR LONG BEACH UTILITIES, THE PRIMARY BENEFITS ARE IT WILL ALLOW US TO GENERATE ADDITIONAL REVENUE. ESSENTIALLY, WE'RE SELLING MORE WATER THAN WE OTHERWISE. WOULD WE HAVE A, A NEW, YOU KNOW, CITY AS A, A CUSTOMER, WE'D BE SERVING AS ESSENTIALLY A, A MINI WHOLESALER. UH, IT WOULD, UH, THROUGH THAT GENERATED ADDITIONAL REVENUE, UH, TO THE, YOU KNOW, THEME OF TODAY'S BOARD MEETING. AND, AND, UH, SEVERAL ITEMS IS, UH, THROUGH THAT ADDITIONAL REVENUE THAT WE GENERATE THAT HELPS TO REDUCE, UH, THE COST, UH, TO THE REST OF OUR CUSTOMERS. IT HELPS SPREAD OUT THE, THE FIXED COSTS, ESSENTIALLY, THAT WE HAVE TO COVER, UH, OVER A, A LARGER, UH, NUMBER OF, OF SALES, UH, LARGER SALES REVENUE. SO FOR SIGNAL HILL, WHAT THIS OPPORTUNITY REPRESENTS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF IMPORTED WATER THAT THEY HAVE TO PURCHASE. UH, ABSENT THIS AGREEMENT WITH LONG BEACH UTILITIES, UH, THEY WOULD HAVE TO ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, PURCHASE IMPORT WATER SIMILAR TO HOW WE WOULD HAVE TO, TO SUPPLEMENT ANYTHING THAT THEY COULDN'T PRODUCE, UH, GROUNDWATER WISE THEMSELVES. AND SO, UH, THROUGH THIS AGREEMENT WITH US, UH, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO NOT ONLY REDUCE THEIR COSTS, BUT IT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO BETTER UTILIZE THEIR, UH, CURRENTLY UNUSED GROUNDWATER RIGHTS. UM, AND SO, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR A SOLUTION FOR. AND, UM, THIS WOULD, UH, ALLOW THEM TO DO THAT. AND SO ESSENTIALLY WE WOULD BE USING OUR GROUNDWATER WELLS TO PUMP THEIR GROUNDWATER RIGHTS ON THEIR BEHALF. DO THAT AGAIN. SO, SO WE WOULD BE USING OUR GROUNDWATER WELLS AND OUR GROUNDWATER TREATMENT PLANTS, THE INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT THE WATER COMING OUT OF THE GROUND, ACCOUNTING-WISE, PAPER-WISE, WOULD BE DEDUCTED FROM THE WATER RIGHTS OF SIGNAL HILL. SO WE'RE NOT USING LONG BEACH GROUNDWATER RIGHTS FOR THIS ARRANGEMENT. SO, UH, I MENTIONED IT ALSO BENEFITS THE REGION. UM, SO WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT THE REGION, I'M, I'M TALKING ABOUT BOTH METROPOLITAN, UH, OUR IMPORTED WATER PROVIDER AS WELL AS, UH, WATER REPLENISHMENT DISTRICT, OUR GROUNDWATER, UH, BASIN MANAGER. AND SO FROM A IMPORTED WATER STANDPOINT, UM, AS YOU ARE WELL AWARE, THE IMPORTED WATER, UH, SUPPLIES ARE, ARE, UH, INCREASINGLY BECOMING, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, STRAINED RESOURCE. AND SO BY TAKING SIGNAL HILL OFF OF IMPORTED WATER DEMAND, THAT FREES UP THAT IMPORTED WATER AND IMPROVES THE RELIABILITY FOR, UH, ALL OF THE OTHER METROPOLITAN MEMBRANE AGENCIES, INCLUDING OURSELVES FROM A WATER REPLENISHMENT STANDPOINT. UM, BY INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF PUMPING IN THE CENTRAL GROUNDWATER BASIN THAT ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR TO HOW IT INCREASES THE REVENUE FOR US, IT ALSO INCREASES THE REVENUE FOR WATER REPLENISHMENT DISTRICT. AND SO THEY'RE RECOVERING MORE PUMPING REPLENISHMENT ASSESSMENT, AND THAT HELPS TO KEEP THE REPLENISHMENT ASSESSMENT LOWER FOR ALL THE OTHER PUMPERS, INCLUDING LONG BEACH. SO, AS FAR AS THE [00:25:01] LOCATION OF THE INTERCONNECTION, THIS IS A MAP. UH, YOU'LL SEE WE'RE, WE'RE RIGHT HERE, UH, SOMEWHERE IN, IN ONE OF THESE BUILDINGS, UH, AT LONG BEACH UTILITIES APARTMENT ACTUALLY FIT IN THIS ONE RIGHT HERE IN THE CORNER. UH, BUT JUST DOWN THE ROAD ON WARLOW ROAD, THERE'S RESERVOIR PARK. UH, IT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THEY'RE FIXING THE, THE ROOF ON, ON THAT RESERVOIR. UH, BUT THERE'S AN EXISTING EMERGENCY INTERCONNECTION THAT ALREADY EXISTS WITH SIGNAL HILL. AND SO, UH, AS PART OF THIS AGREEMENT AND EFFORT WOULD BE TO CONVERT THAT EMERGENCY INTER INTERCONNECT INTO ESSENTIALLY A, A ONGOING REGULAR SUPPLY, UH, CONNECTION. AND SO THERE'S SOME MORE TO BE DONE WITH THAT. THERE'S PERMITTING WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF DRINKING WATER. UM, THERE'S SOME TESTING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. UH, IT'S NOT A, UH, INTERCONNECTION THAT'S BEEN ACTIVELY USED, AND SO THERE IS SOME WORK TO BE DONE, BUT, UH, THAT WOULD BE THE PROPOSED INTERCONNECTION LOCATION JUST DOWN THE STREET. SO THE PROPOSED KEY TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT, AS I MENTIONED, SIGNAL HILL GROUNDWATER RIGHTS WILL BE USED, AND SO THAT WILL NOT REDUCE OR JEOPARDIZE THE AMOUNT OF GROUNDWATER AVAILABLE TO THE CITY OF LONG BEACH. THERE WILL BE NO GUARANTEE OF DELIVERY, DELIVERY OR PURCHASE. ESSENTIALLY, THIS IS BOTH AT OUR AVAILABILITY AND CAPACITY AND AT THEIR, UH, DE UH, DES, UH, DESIRED DEMAND. AND SO THERE'S ALL NO OBLIGATION FOR THEM TO, FOR INSTANCE, UH, PURCHASE A CERTAIN AMOUNT FROM US EACH YEAR. AND THERE'S SIMILARLY NO OBLIGATION FOR US TO, UH, DELIVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT EACH YEAR. IT IS COMPLETELY SUBJECT TO THE CONVENIENCE AND CAPABILITY OF, OF BOTH SIDES, BOTH PARTIES. UM, THAT MEANS THAT SIGNAL HILL AGREES TO MAINTAIN ITS OWN, UH, WATER SUPPLIES FOR LIABILITY, UH, MEANING IMPORTED WATER. THEY CAN'T, YOU KNOW, UH, AT THIS POINT SEVER THEIR IMPORTED WATER CONNECTION. UH, THEY, THAT, THAT WILL CONTINUE TO BE WHAT THEY RELY UPON FOR RELIABILITY. THIS IS A SUPPLEMENTAL SUPPLY FROM A PRICING STANDPOINT, THE CONCEPT IS TO, UH, IN EQUALLY SHARE THE FINANCIAL BENEFITS. WE'RE BOTH PUBLIC ENTITIES. WE'RE NOT A PRIVATE CORPORATION, TRY TO MAXIMIZE PROFIT. AND SO THE GOAL IS FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO SAVE, UH, SAVE, SAVE MONEY FROM, UH, PURCHASING LESS I IMPORTED WATER, AND FOR US TO RECOVER ADDITIONAL REVENUE BY US UTILIZING OUR UNDERUTILIZED, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE. AND SO, UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE, THE, THE FORMULA, ESSENTIALLY THE PRICE FOR THIS, UH, FOR THIS AGREEMENT WILL BE THE AVERAGE OF THE FLOOR, WHICH IS OUR COST TO PRO PRODUCE GROUNDWATER. SO AS LONG AS WE CHARGE A PRICE THAT'S HIGHER THAN OUR COST, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY GENERATING ADDITIONAL NET INCOME. UH, SO THE FLOOR IS OUR COST TO DELIVER GROUNDWATER. THE CEILING IS THEIR COST FOR IMPORTER WATER. SO ANYTHING LESS THAN THEIR COST FOR IMPORTER WATER WILL BE A FINANCIAL BENEFIT TO THEM. AND SO ESSENTIALLY WE'RE SPLITTING THAT BY JUST TAKING THE AVERAGE OF THE FLOOR, OUR COST, AND THEIR, UH, IMPORTED WATER COST. AND, UH, AS IT STANDS CURRENTLY, WHERE, WHERE THE RATES ARE, THAT WOULD COME OUT TO $889 PER PER FOOT. THAT PRICE WOULD BE ADJUSTED OR WILL BE ADJUSTED SEMI-ANNUALLY TO REFLECT CHANGES TO, UH, IMPORT WATER COSTS. SO WHEN ME, WHENEVER METROPOLITAN INCREASES THEIR RATES, UH, AND THEN, UH, WHENEVER WATER REPLENISHMENT DISTRICT INCREASES, UH, THEIR RATES, UH, WE'LL MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS TO THIS AGREEMENT PRICE, AS WELL AS MAKING AN ADJUSTMENT FOR A CONSUMER PRICE INDEX, ESSENTIALLY TO HELP, UH, COVER THE COST OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND OUR O AND M, OUR CHEMICAL LABOR, UH, TREATMENT COSTS. AND SO THIS, THIS OPPORTUNITY, THIS AGREEMENT REPRESENTS AN IMMEDIATE SHORT-TERM OPPORTUNITY. UM, UH, ASIDE FROM MINOR, UH, TESTING AND, AND CONFIRMATION OF THE INTERCONNECT, UH, CAPABILITY, IT, IT'S ESSENTIALLY, UH, READY FOR US TO DELIVER USING EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. BUT AS WE LOOK FORWARD TO MEDIUM AND LONG-TERM OPPORTUNITIES, UH, LONG BEACH IS CONTINUALLY DRIVING DOWN OUR, OUR WATER USE. YOU KNOW, JOEY PRESENTED ALL THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REMOVE TURF, REDUCE WATER USAGE. AND SO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE WAS ACTUALLY SIZED TO SERVE A MUCH LARGER AMOUNT OF WATER THAN WE CURRENTLY HAVE DEMAND FOR. UM, YOU KNOW, I, I RECENTLY, UH, LEARNED THAT, UM, THE TREATMENT PLANT A SIZE AT 62 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. UM, THE BOARD AT THAT TIME HAD SOMEWHAT ENVISIONED BECOMING A REGIONAL SUPPLIER OF, OF WATER. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS IS STARTING TO, UH, WORK TOWARDS THAT REALIZATION OF WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY ENVISIONED. UH, SO, UH, YEAH, AS, AS OUR CONSERVATION CONTINUES TO DECREASE OUR CUSTOMER DEMANDS, WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE MORE AND MORE SURPLUS CAPACITY AVAILABLE TO SERVE, UM, ADDITIONAL CUSTOMERS SUCH AS SIGNAL HILL OR EVEN, UM, BEYOND. SO THOSE ARE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO EXPLORE. UH, BUT THIS, UH, IMMEDIATE AGREEMENT, PROPOSED AGREEMENT IS THE, UH, US RIGHT NOW. SO WITH THAT, I CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION AND OPEN UP TO ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. I, I, I THINK THAT'S EXCITING. I ENJOY, ENJOY THAT VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, I DON'T, WELL, I GUESS I DO HAVE A QUESTION. FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THIS IS A WIN-WIN, UH, NOT ONLY FOR [00:30:01] OBVIOUSLY US AS WELL AS SIGNAL HILL. UM, I, I'D LOVE TO SEE MORE OF THESE TYPE OF AGREEMENTS, UM, MOVE FORWARD. AND, AND I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, ARE THERE, IS THERE, ARE THERE DISCUSSIONS OR POSSIBILITIES FOR OTHER AGREEMENTS LIKE THIS WITH NEIGHBORING CITIES? YES, ABSOLUTELY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, NOTHING QUITE AS, UM, SOLIDIFIED OR OR CONCRETE AS THAT WITH SIGMA HILL, BUT I, I'VE BEEN ACTIVELY IN DISCUSSION WITH MULTIPLE OTHER, UM, AGENCIES AND, AND, UH, ADJACENT CITIES. UH, AND THERE IS INTEREST, WELL, WELL SHORT OF ANNEXATION THIS, THIS, THIS WORKS FOR ME. THANK YOU. I WAS REMISS. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY, SEEING NONE, NO FURTHER COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? I HAVE A COUPLE OF, OF, UM, QUESTIONS. ONE, JUST ONE ACTUALLY. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU PROBABLY GET ASKED THIS ALL THE TIME. WHY DOESN'T LONG BEACH JUST TAKE OVER? I'VE, I'VE SEEN THAT ON THE INTERNET. I'VE SEEN THAT PEOPLE SAYING, YOU KNOW, WHY DOESN'T LONG BEACH JUST TAKE OVER SINGLE HILL AS A CITY OR JUST THE WATER? NO, JUST THE WA YEAH, . NO, JUST, JUST THE WATER. AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, IF IT WORKS, IT WORKS. I'M NOT SUGGESTING, BUT THAT HAS, I'VE SEEN THAT ON THE, ON, ON FACEBOOK, ON, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE PUT THINGS OUT THERE. I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING IT NOW, BUT WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE? SURE. SO, AND, AND SO THAT'S WHERE I SPEAK TO MEDIUM AND LONG TERM OPPORTUNITIES. THERE'S, UH, EVEN IN THE SHORT TERM OPPORTUNITY, LIKE I MENTIONED, WE HAVE TO EVALUATE THE EXISTING INTERCONNECT, THE DDW PERMIT. SO IN A, A MORE, UH, TAKING OVER A SYSTEM THAT WOULD INVOLVE MANY, MANY MORE STEPS, AS WELL AS THERE'S ADDITIONAL RISKS AND, AND THINGS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO EVALUATE MORE CAREFULLY BEFORE WE DECIDE HOW THAT WOULD WORK. YOU, YOU'D HAVE TO LOOK AT ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, LIKE, UH, COST OF SERVICE STUDY, RIGHT? SO, SO RIGHT NOW, THE WAY THAT THIS ARRANGEMENT IS WORKING IS WE ARE ESSENTIALLY WHOLESALING WATER AS A SUPPLY TO SIGNAL HILL. AND, AND THE, THE ASPECT OF NOT GUARANTEEING, UH, SERVICE THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHEN WE TAKE OVER A SYSTEM ESSENTIALLY TO ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS. THEY'RE EXPECTING 24 7, 365 SERVICE. IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT ARRANGEMENT. AND SO IT JUST TAKES ADDITIONAL STUDIES TO ENSURE THAT WE DO THAT CORRECTLY AND IN A WAY THAT WOULD TRULY TO BE THE, TO THE BENEFIT OF, OF BOTH PARTIES AS WELL. SO IT'S NOT THAT IT CAN'T BE DONE, BUT WE HAVEN'T GONE TO THAT LEVEL OF ANALYSIS AND TAKEOVER SOUNDS SO HARSH. IT'S MAYBE A FRIENDLY, FRIENDLY TAKEOVER, BUT I'M NOT, AGAIN, I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT, UM, YOU MENTIONED ON THERE THAT WE'RE BOTH MUNICIPALITIES, WE WORK TOGETHER, OBVIOUSLY THERE, THEY'RE OUR NEIGHBORS OR WE'RE ALMOST RELATED 'CAUSE WE'RE ALL TOGETHER. UM, SO I THINK, I THINK AGAIN, GOING BACK TO DIANA AT SOME POINT, IT WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTING, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE EVER INVITED ANYONE FROM SIGNAL HILL ON ANY OF OUR INSPECTION TRIPS. WE'RE REALLY LIMITED. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT MAY NOT BE A BAD IDEA. I DON'T KNOW WHO PICKS THEM UP. WHAT DO YOU MEAN PICKS THEM UP? LIKE MET DOES WHO, WHO, WHERE DO THEY GO? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY. OH, OH, OKAY. WHICH MEMBER AGENCY? OKAY. YEAH. MEMBER AGENCY. SO WHO, WHO, CENTRAL BASIN? YES. NEVER HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT SINGLE HILL. ANY, ANY OF MY MEETINGS. SO, I MEAN, MAYBE BECAUSE THEY'RE SO CLOSE AND THEY'RE WE'RE A SPHERE OF INFLUENCE MAY NOT BE A BAD IDEA AT SOME POINT TO INVITE MAYBE A COUPLE PEOPLE JUST SO THAT THEY CAN UNDER BETTER UNDERSTAND THE SYSTEM AND WHETHER IT'S AN INSPECTION TRIP LOCALLY OR SOMETHING ELSE. RIGHT. AND, AND I THINK TO YOUR QUESTION IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WHY HA LEMME THINK ABOUT HOW I SAY IT. UH, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE MUTUAL INTEREST, RIGHT? LIKE, WE DON'T WANNA DO A HOSTILE TAKEOVER. THERE NEEDS TO BE INTEREST FROM SIGNAL HILL FOR SOMEBODY TO TAKE OVER THE SYSTEM. AND I, I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S DIFFERENT CHALLENGES THAT THEY'RE FACING, JUST LIKE WE'RE FACING DIFFERENT INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES. UM, AND, AND IT, IF IT'S TO THEIR BENEFIT, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING FOR THEIR THEM TO CONSIDER. THIS ISN'T A SITUATION LIKE GREENLAND. OKAY, THAT'S, SORRY, DON'T NEED TO GET POLITICAL HERE. UM, OKAY. THANK YOU DEAN. THAT WAS, UH, YOU ALWAYS HAVE REALLY, UH, INTERESTING THINGS, SO I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. UH, SEE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. WE, UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE OF THIS, UH, RECEIVING AND FILE FILING THIS. UM, AYE. OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, AS WE CLOSE, IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK [PUBLIC COMMENT Opportunity to address the Resources Committee on non-agenda items. Each speaker is limited to three minutes to make their comments unless extended by the Chair.] ON A NON AGENDA ITEM? SEE, NONE THE COMMENT PERIOD IS NOW CLOSED. ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? [ANNOUNCEMENTS] OKAY, WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU EVERYONE [ADJOURNMENT] STICKING AROUND. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.