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WITH A ROLL CALL.UM, SHALL WE BEGIN? UH, COMMISSIONER MURRAY HERE.
WE HAVE THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR REGULAR AGENDA, WHICH IS A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING OF JULY.
THEY BE APPROVED AS DISTRIBUTED.
THE, UH, UH, THERE HAS BEEN AN A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL OF THOSE IN ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
UM, THE MOTION IS, UM, MOVED AND ACCEPTED.
MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS A RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS AND REVIEW FUTURE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION AGENDA ITEMS. UH, THE SUGGESTED ITEM IS TO, OR THE SUGGESTED ACTION IS TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE AND A SECOND, SO I'LL OPEN IT UP TO A DISCUSSION OF THE FUTURE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION.
AGENDA ITEMS? I HAVE ONE
I WOULD LIKE TO CELEBRATE, UM, THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE, UH, CALIFORNIA COAST LAW.
UM, AND I HA HAVE A RECOMMENDED SPEAKER WHO CAN COME TO A MAR ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING AND TAKE MAYBE 15 MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS, UM, LEGISLATIVE ACTION.
IT'S ACTUALLY A, UH, INITIATIVE ON THE BALLOT IN CALIFORNIA IN THE LATE 1970S.
HE IS A FORMER CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION COMMISSIONER AND PASSED CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION BACK IN THE DUKE DAYS AND WILLIE BROWN DAYS IN OUR LEGISLATURE.
UM, HE CAN SPEAK FOR ABOUT 15 MINUTES.
VERY, VERY POWERFUL, UM, SPEAKER AND EXPERIENCED ALL OF THIS IN HIS LIFE.
UM, ANY COMMENTS, ANY SUGGEST SUGGESTIONS? ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT FOR THE SEPTEMBER MEETING? UM, YES.
I WOULD SUGGEST IT FOR THE SEPTEMBER MEETING, AND I BELIEVE MEL IS AVAILABLE.
UH, HE HAS INDICATED TO ME THAT HE WOULD BE MORE THAN WILLING TO SPEAK TO THIS.
HE'S BEEN INVOLVED IN A NUMBER OF EVENTS THIS YEAR, CELEBRATING THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE COASTAL LAB.
HE'S A GREAT VOICE, UM, TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS, UM, 15 MINUTES ON THE AGENDA SHOULD DO IT.
HE'S AN ELDERLY GENTLEMAN, SO I WOULD, UH, RECOMMEND THAT WE HAVE SOMEPLACE FOR HIM TO STAND BECAUSE IT'S EASIER FOR HIM.
I DON'T THINK SITTING DOWN WOULD BE QUITE THE SAME IMPACT.
I THINK HE SHOULD STAND AND BE ABLE TO, UM, SPEAK TO THIS TOPIC.
ANY COMMENTS? I SUPPORT THAT RECOMMENDATION.
I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA TO HAVE ON THE AGENDA.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UM, WOULD SOMEONE HERE BE WILLING TO MAKE THAT INVITATION OR WOULD I BE THE PERSON TO DO THAT? SHOULD WE ALL AGREE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANT? I THINK IT'D BE THE CHAIR.
SINCE YOU KNOW THE PERSON AND YOU'RE THE CHAIRPERSON, YOU WOULD JUST ASK HIM TO BE THERE AND BE A REPRESENTATIVE.
I AND MR. NUTTER'S BEEN SERVING ON OUR SUBCOMMITTEE REGARDING THE, UM, SURFING MEMORIAL.
AND, UM, AND HE'S BEEN AN INCREDIBLE CONTRIBUTOR.
AND A REAL ASSET TO THE COMMITTEE.
'CAUSE HE KNOWS EVERYBODY
WE WOULD LIKE LIKELY EXTEND AN, AN INVITATION TO THE COASTAL COMMISSION, UH, JUST TO SAY OH, STAFF, LOCAL STAFF.
THEY WILL COME MAKE SURE NOBODY'S OFFENDED.
JUST BECAUSE IT'S MR. MILLER HAS A HISTORY WITH THE COMMISSION.
HE'S NO LONGER ON THE COMMISSION.
SO WE'D LOVE TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COMMISSION.
IF THE LONG BEACH STAFF OF THE COASTAL COMMISSION HERE IN LONG BEACH ALL KNOW HIM.
AND, UM, ANY SOCIAL EVENT THAT INVOLVES HIM, THEY ARE ALL OFTEN, UH, IN ATTENDED.
UM, WE HAD SPOKEN TO THE QUESTION OF MAYBE ACKNOWLEDGING HIS PARTICIPATION IN THE COASTAL ACT WAS SOME SORT OF OFFICIAL, UM, UH, COMMENDATION, UM, MAY I SAY, HAVING SPENT SOME TIME WITH MEL IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS,
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THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING EFFORT ON THE PART OF VARIOUS ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, ORGANIZATIONS AND OTHER SEMI QUASI-GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES WHO RECOGNIZE HIS WORK IN THE, UH, COASTAL ACT AND ENFORCEMENT OF THE COASTAL ACT.SO IS IT SOMETHING WE MIGHT ASK CITY COUNCIL TO PARTICIPATE IN? HOW, HOW WOULD WE GET MEL ACKNOWLEDGED AS AN INDIVIDUAL WITH RESPECT TO HIS WORK, UH, IN THE CITY? YOU CAN ACKNOWLEDGE VIA THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD JUST GIVE, UH, LIN, UH, AND AND I LANGUAGE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE ON HIS CERTIFICATE.
UM, BUT WE COULD ALSO POTENTIALLY REACH OUT TO OUR WATER BASED OR MARINE BASED COUNCIL OFFICES AND SEE IF THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE REPRESENTATION.
SO THAT WOULD BE DISTRICT ONE.
I CAN'T UNDERSTATE THE IMPORTANCE OF WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON THIS YEAR IN THE WORLD OF, UM, RECOGNITION OF THE COASTAL ACT.
SO, AND MEL IS THE LIVING EMBODIMENT OF THAT, SO, OKAY.
I'LL PROBABLY CRIB SOMETHING
UM, AND IT WOULD BE, UH, GREAT TO EXTEND THE INVITATION TO THE DISTRICTS THAT HAVE, UM, SOME SORT OF, UM, HAVE FELT THE IMPACT, SHALL WE SAY, OF THE COASTAL ACT OVER TIME.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY CONTRIBUTION FOR, UH, A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM OPENING THE CONVERSATION.
MADAM CHAIR, JUST BE AWARE TOO, ONCE IT BECOMES PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE, YOU'LL HAVE PEOPLE FROM THE PALISADES, MALIBU AND ALL THAT, IT'LL SHOW UP, BUT MAYBE NOT IN THE MOST POSITIVE LIGHT FOR THE COASTAL COMMISSION.
SO THIS WILL BE A PUBLIC MEETING, AND IT COULD, COULD DEFINITELY, UH, BLOW OUT A HAND.
IT'S, I'M GOING TO OFFER THIS SUGGESTION, WHICH IS THE FOCUS OF THIS RECOGNITION OF THE COASTAL ACT.
AND IT'S 50TH ANNIVERSARY STILL, IT'S NOT COASTAL COMMISSION.
IT'S THE CONCEPT OF, OF THE, UM, IT WAS, UM, UH, UH, QUITE THE NOTION THAT THE COAST NEEDED TO BE PROTECTED.
OH, I, NO, I A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE WITH YOU FROM 30,000 FEET.
I'M SAYING ONCE IT COMES OUT IN PUBLIC, YOU HAVE COASTAL COMMISSIONERS THAT MAY SHOW UP AND REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE COASTAL COMMISSION, YOU WILL HAVE OTHER PEOPLE HERE THAT COULDN'T CARE LESS ABOUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN VOICING THEIR OPINIONS.
AND THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE DO
AND THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT.
ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS FOR OUR COASTAL, OR I'M SORRY, FOR OUR MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETINGS GOING FORWARD? WE HAVE AN ATTACHMENT.
UM, JUST TO GIVE A SECOND PAGE FOR YOU.
IT'S THIS ONE RIGHT HERE? YES.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NEXT MEETING.
I WAS MADE AWARE OF THE FACT THAT THERE WOULD BE A PERMIT VIOLATION THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE SUBJECT OF OUR MEETING NEXT WEEK.
UM, ANY COMMENTS ON THIS? I UNDERSTAND OUR ROLE THAT THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION PLAYS IN THIS KIND OF BUSINESS, UM, UH, THROUGH THE MARINE BUREAU.
WE'VE HAD AT LEAST ONE OTHER PERMIT VIOLATION CONSIDERED IN THE PAST, AND I THINK I UNDERSTAND THE CONSEQUENCES OF THIS.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO SHARE WITH US? UH, CAN'T REALLY SHARE MUCH INTO THE DETAILS YES.
OF THE, OF THE CANCELLATION RIGHT NOW.
THAT'LL ALL BE DURING THE HEARING.
UM, BUT JUST KNOW WHEN WE DO HAVE APPEAL HEARINGS, WE TEND TO KEEP OUR AGENDA LIGHT, YOU KNOW.
JUST DUE, DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE WANT TO GIVE THE FULL AMOUNT OF TIME AND ATTENTION TO THIS CANCELLATION.
UH, BECAUSE WE, SOMETIMES THEY CAN GO QUICKLY, SOMETIMES THEY TAKE TIME.
AND IT REALLY, WE WANT TO GIVE IT THE FULL DUE RESPECT AND ATTENTION.
THAT'S, WE'LL SEE, REMAINS TO BE SEEN.
UH, WE'VE SENT ALL THE INFORMATION, UH, REQUIRED TO HIM ON THE TIMELINES THAT, UH, THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE MUNICIPAL CODE.
UH, WE HAVE NOT, UH, HAD ANY COMMUNICATION FROM THE PERMITING SINCE, UH, GOSH, BEFORE WE SENT THAT BACK.
UH, MAY ATTEND, MAY NOT, BUT THE, THE HEARING STILL GOES ON.
WHETHER THE PERSON IS THERE OR NOT.
UM, ANY OTHER CONTRIBUTIONS FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? I, I'D LIKE TO SAY WE'RE IN A BUDGET CUT
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IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH, AND IT COSTS US THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO RUN OUT REC PARK, TO RENT OUT BIXBY PARK.UH, WHEN WE HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE YACHT CLUBS TO DO OUR MEETINGS THERE, WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE SHOWING UP TO OUR MEETINGS ANYMORE.
ZERO FROM, FROM THE COMMUNITIES.
AND I KNOW THEY'VE ASKED ME, HOW COME WE STOPPED DOING THE YACHT CLUB? WELL, THERE WAS AN ISSUE, I THINK OUR PAST CHAIRWOMAN BROUGHT UP WITH A, UH, CONFEDERATE FLAG, UH, THAT WAS ON IT THAT'S BEEN TAKEN OR BLACKED OUT.
AND THE OTHER ONE IS, UH, STRIKE.
THEY HAVE NOT PICKETED OUT THERE IN FOREVER.
THE CITY, THE MAYOR, UH, LONG BEACH STATE ALL DOES THEIR MEETINGS THERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHY WE CAN'T CONTINUE HAVING OUR MEETINGS THERE, BUT WE DO HAVE ONE MEMBER OF OUR COMMISSION THAT IS RESPECTING THE LINE AND WON'T ATTEND OUR MEETINGS.
IN THE PAST, WE WERE RESPECTED.
WE WANTED TO INCLUDE EVERYONE IN OUR COMMISSION.
WELL, I, I, I RESPECTED THAT, AND I TOLD HER, TOO, AS BEING A TEAMSTER AND A BROTHER, UH, TO THAT GROUP.
BUT OUR JOB IS TO BASICALLY FULFILL THE NEEDS OF THE CONSTITUENCIES AROUND THE MARINA AND NOT SEPARATE.
WE NEED TO HAVE PEOPLE SHOW UP.
THEY NEED TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT CAN WALK THERE, THAT ARE LIVERBOARDS THAT WILL SHOW UP TO OUR MEETINGS.
AND WE'VE ALL BEEN TO OUR MEETINGS, AND IT'S THE SAME PEOPLE, AND WE DON'T HAVE A VERY GOOD TURNOUT FOR THE MONEY.
WE'RE SPENDING
SO FOR PURPOSES, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING, WHAT DOES THE $3,000 REPRESENT? WE HAVE TO RENT OUT REC HALL, AND WE HAVE TO RENT OUT BIXBY.
AND UNDER THE YACHT CLUB, UNDER THEIR PROPOSAL, OR I BELIEVE THEIR CONTRACT, THEY HAVE TO GIVE US ACCESS THERE.
AM I CORRECT IF I'M READING THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
THEY GIVE US ACCESS, FREE ACCESS, SO IT DOES NOT COST US.
IT'S A NEGOTIATED THAT THEY GET SOME THINGS FOR AN EXCHANGE.
I MEAN, I THINK WE'LL BE CHANGING THAT THIS YEAR TOO, BECAUSE, UH, MADAM CHAIR, ALL THE FREEBIES WE GIVE OUT WITH DOCK SPACE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE FOR THIS RACE AND THAT RACE WITH THE BUDGET CUTS THAT WE'RE DOING IN OUR STATE, IN OUR CITY, UH, I, I AM A PROPONENT OF FULL CHARGE FOR EVERYBODY.
MAYBE A DISCOUNTED, BUT PEOPLE NEED TO PAY THEIR WAY, UH, FROM NOW ON, AT LEAST TILL OUR BUDGET GETS CORRECTED, WE'RE AT A $53 MILLION DEFICIT.
UM, I, UH, WOULD LIKE, UH, GIVEN THE FACT THAT I'M VERY NEW IN THIS ROLE, UH, WHAT ARE, WHAT IS THE UNIVERSE OF LOCATIONS WHERE OUR PARTICULAR MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION CAN MEET WITHOUT POTENTIAL CHARGES THAT COME AT US, UM, SINCE WE ARE NOT MEETING AT A FREE SPACE THAT HAS BEEN NEGOTIATED UNDER THE CONTRACT AND LEASE ARRANGEMENTS BETWEEN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH AND THE LONG BEACH YACHT CLUB.
WE CAN MEET ANYWHERE IN THE CITY AS LONG AS OUR MEETING PLACE IS ANYWHERE IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH.
WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.
HOWEVER, WE ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE, OUR LOCATION IS CLOSE TO THE CONSTITUENTS, THE CONSTITUENTS THAT WE SERVE, WHICH IS WE WANT TO BE COASTAL.
WE WANT TO BE CLOSE TO THE MARINAS.
WE WANT TO BE CLOSE TO THE BEACHES.
SO THAT KIND OF LIMITS THE LOCATIONS THAT WE CAN UTILIZE, UH, BECAUSE WE NEED AN OPEN ROOM, YOU KNOW, THAT CAN FIT AT LEAST 20 TO 30 PEOPLE.
UH, AND THEN WE ALSO NEED PARKING AVAILABLE.
PARKING IS HUGE NOW THAT, THAT PARKING NEEDS TO BE FREE.
SO THAT FURTHER LIMITS THE LOCATIONS WE CAN USE.
SO THIS PAST YEAR, WE IDENTIFIED COMMUNITY, UH, RECREATION PARK COMMUNITY CENTER, AND BIXBY PARK, UH, COMMUNITY CENTER, BECAUSE BOTH OF THOSE LOCATIONS FIT THE BILL COMMUNITY OR RECREATION PARK A LITTLE FAR, YOU KNOW, AT THE CORNER, SEVENTH AND PARK.
BUT, UH, BIGSBY PARK IS, YOU KNOW, LOOKS OUT OVER THE WATER.
SO, BUT THOSE LOCATIONS, WE DO PAY OUR COMMUNITY RECREATION SERVICES BUREAU A USAGE FEE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, PAYING FOR STAFF TO BE THERE TO HELP SUPPORT OPEN THE BUILDING.
AND, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE, THEY'RE NOT CHARGING US A PROFIT.
THEY'RE CHARGING US COST COVER COST.
UM, IT, IT'S ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT HAPPENS TO BE THE, IS IT THE SECOND DISTRICT COUNCIL OFFICE THERE AS WELL? YEAH.
THEY, THEY HAVE A FIELD OFFICE ACROSS THE AREA.
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SO, UM, THE OFFICE THAT IS, THAT SPACE ISN'T OPEN JUST FOR THE MAC.
IT'S OPEN BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL OFFICE FIELD OFFICES THERE AS WELL.
AREN'T THEY OPEN DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS? NO.
WELL, IT'S, IT'S A DISCONNECTED BUILDING.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT IN THE SAME SPACE.
UM, SO DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER CONTRIBUTIONS TO POTENTIAL, YOU KNOW, SPACES WITHIN THIS, OH, SYL BEACH.
DOES SILL BEACH GIVE US, IS THAT A PART OF THE CONTRACT AT ALL WHERE WE CAN USE THAT FREE BEACH YACHT CLUB? THE SEAL BEACH YACHT CLUB DOES NOT HAVE AN MOU WITH US FOR USE.
UH, THEY'VE BEEN VERY, UH, KIND IN OFFERING UP THEIR SPACE WHEN IT'S AVAILABLE.
AND WE'VE TRIED AND IT'S NOT BEEN AVAILABLE.
AT TWO 30 ON A THURSDAY AFTERNOON.
WELL, ESPECIALLY DURING, DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS.
SO, UM, I WOULD HAVE A, A, YOU KNOW, CONTENDER FOR A ALTERNATIVE, WHICH IS THE SPACE THAT WE RECENTLY, UH, HAD A PUBLIC MEETING IN THE THIRD DISTRICT.
IT'S THE CONSERVATION COURT BUILDING, UH, THE THIRD DISTRICT CITY COUNCIL OFFICES THERE.
IT'S A VERY LONG OPEN CONFERENCE ROOM AND WITH, UH, CHAIRS AROUND THE EDGES.
I SU SUSPECT THAT YOU COULD FIT AT LEAST 25 PEOPLE IN THERE ALONG WITH THE, UH, COMMISSIONERS.
YOU ALL KNOW THE SPACE THAT I'M KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THERE IS PLENTY OF FREE PARKING ACROSS THE STREET AND IN THE, UM, WHAT IS IT, UBUNTU TU UBUNTU.
AND THEN THE PARK SPACE OVER THERE.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE CONSERVATION CORPS BUILDING AND, AND, AND CONFERENCE ROOM TO BE AVAILABLE? YES, BUT I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THEM OFFLINE.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT SPACE ABSENT OF OTHER KIND OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE USE OF THAT ROOM.
UM, I FOUND IT VERY COMFORTABLE WITH RESPECT TO THE ABILITY TO HEAR THE SPEAKERS AND THE, UM, UH, ACCESS TO THE, UH, PUBLIC PRESENTATION.
SO, UH, COULD WE CONSIDER THAT USE WITHOUT A FEE? IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, YOU FINE.
I DON'T SUPPORT A MEETING AT THE LONG BEACH YACHT CLUB.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD HONOR THE, UM, THE COMMISSIONERS AND THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT CROSSING A PICKET LINE OR WHATEVER THEIR REASONS FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO PUBLICLY PARTICIPATE IN THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION AT A SPACE THAT, IN WHICH THEY ARE NOT COMFORTABLE.
I BELIEVE OUR ROLE IS TO ENCOURAGE THE PARTICIPATION OF OUR COMMISSIONERS AND HONOR THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO ATTEND A MEETING IN A SPACE THAT DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THEIR, UM, WHATEVER MORAL CONCERNS, RELIGIOUS CONCERNS, UH, POLITICAL
I MEAN, I THINK WE CAN EVEN PLAY THIS POINT.
THAT IS WHAT DO THEY, WHAT DO THEY PAY IN THEIR RENT, UH, YOU KNOW, AND LEASE OF THE CITY.
AND WE SHOULD MAKE THAT POINT TO THE CITY AS A LETTER.
MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T ALLOW THE YACHT CLUB TO EVEN BE THERE ANYMORE, IF THAT'S THE GAME.
BECAUSE THIS STRIKE HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS.
YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR, FOR SOME TIME.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT HAS MADE, I'VE BEEN AWARE, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE MEMBERS THERE DON'T EVEN PAY THEIR DUES.
'CAUSE IT'S WHATEVER CONTRACT THEY HAVE.
SO IT'S, IT'S COMING TO THE POINT THAT WHAT DO THEY GET THAT'S BASICALLY FOR FREE.
UM, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, HAVING DONE SOME RESEARCH INTO THIS, AND I'M NOT THE MOST EDUCATED PERSON, BUT IT IS, UM, TIDE LANDS PROPERTY UNDER WHICH THE CITY OF LONG BEACH, UH, CONTROLS IT AS THE LESS SEA FROM THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
IT IS PUBLIC LAND, WHICH HAS THEN BEEN CONTRACTUALLY, AT LEAST TO A PRIVATE YACHT CLUB.
AND THE CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE YACHT CLUB HA WAS RECENTLY RENEGOTIATED, OR IS IN THE COURSE OF BEING, IT'S IN THE COURSE OF BEING NEGOTIATED NOW.
AND IT'S QUITE A SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF TIME.
UM, THE OTHER, UH, UM, ELEMENT OF THAT CONTRACT, OR THE LEASE AGREEMENT IS THAT THE CITY HAS REQUESTED, UM, CERTAIN, UH, CONDITIONS WITHIN THAT, UH, AGREEMENT THAT ALLOWS FOR PUBLIC ACCESS AND THE USE OF A ROOM, UM, NOT MERELY FOR MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETINGS, BUT OTHER, UM, UH, PUBLIC ACCESS USE OF THE SPACE.
MADAM CHAIR, I'M JUST SURPRISED THAT THE CITY HASN'T STEPPED IN TO CALL THE STRIKE BECAUSE THEY'VE MADE ALL THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT RESTAURANTS AND HOTELS THAT ARE MANDATED TO BE UNIONIZED.
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SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THE CITY DOESN'T KNOW THAT THEY CAN STEP IN, THAT THEY CAN MAKE A CALL.YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S WHAT WE DO AS A COMMISSION, IS I I WANT ALL THE COMMISSIONERS THERE TOO, ALSO.
WHAT I, WHAT I MIGHT SUGGEST IS THAT IF YOU WERE SO INCLINED TO GET MORE INFORMATION AND POTENTIALLY BRING IT BACK TO US IN ORDER FOR US TO MAKE A, HAVE A GREATER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS GOING ON WITH RESPECT TO THAT CONTRACT.
UM, SO I WILL ASK THAT IF YOU COULD, UH, BRING US MORE INFORMATION AND KNOW THAT THE CONTRACT IS, THAT IS THE LEASE AGREEMENT IS CURRENTLY BEING NEGOTIATED.
NEGOTIATION'S COMPLETE ON THAT AGREEMENT.
UM, SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE USE OF THAT SPACE FOR, UM, A CITY COMMISSION.
UM, AND THE NOTION THAT, UM, IT'S A, THE YACHT CLUB IS A PRIVATE ENTITY THAT HAS CHOSEN NOT TO ENGAGE WITH RESPECT TO THE, UM, STRIKE FOR CERTAIN WORKERS THAT ARE EMPLOYED THERE APPARENTLY.
UM, AND HOW MUCH INFORMATION CAN WE GET ON THAT AND WHAT INFLUENCE DO WE HAVE ON THAT? SO THAT'S WHERE I GO WITH RESPECT TO, I'M ON IT TRYING TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON.
BUT ABSENT ANY KIND OF, UM, UM, I GUESS DECISION WITH RESPECT TO OUR MAC AND OUR MEETING LOCATIONS COMPLETELY SUPPORT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE OUT IN OTHER LOCATIONS WITHIN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE MORE ACCESS.
UM, AND I MIGHT DISAGREE WITH YOU WITH RESPECT TO, UM, THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE LONG BEACH YACHT CLUB FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO MAY NOT BE IN THE MARINAS OR UNDERSTAND, UM, SORT OF THE, UM, YOU KNOW, MAY NOT BE WITHIN THIS AREA OF LONG BEACH TO ENCOURAGE OTHER PEOPLE IN OTHER PARTS OF LONG BEACH TO ATTEND THESE MEETINGS.
UM, SO THAT'S HOW I PERSONALLY FEEL WE CAN GET IT, IT FREE.
I'M LOOKING AT JUST THE CUT WISE MADAM CHAIR, IS THAT WE NEED TO REDUCE THE COST OF THIS COMMISSION.
UM, AND IF WE CAN DO IT THAT WAY, HEY, I'M, I'M ALL IN.
WELL ON, ON THAT SUBJECT, UM, WE MAY BRING THAT UP AS A SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM IN WAYS FOR US TO MANAGE THE EXPENSES RELATED TO THE MANAGEMENT OF THE MARINA ADVISORY COMMISSION AS A SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM ON AN EXECUTIVE MEETING, PERHAPS NEXT MONTH, IF STAFF COULD HELP US BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT KIND OF DISCRETIONARY FUNDS WE HAVE AND WHAT IT IS THAT DISCRETIONARY, I CAN TELL YOU NOW, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY DISCRETIONARY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY DISCRETIONARY FUNDS.
HOWEVER, YOU UNDER YOUR BUDGET MAY, RIGHT? MM-HMM
UM, SO MIGHT I SUGGEST THERE'LL BE OTHER WAYS FOR US TO APPROACH AND ASSIST MARINE BUREAU WITH YOUR FINANCIAL, UH, CONSIDERATIONS IN TERMS OF, UM, THE, UH, EXPENSES RELATED TO THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION.
UM, ANY OTHER CON, YOU KNOW, ANY OTHER CONTRIBUTIONS TO MEETING LOCATIONS AND, UM, ASPECTS WITH, UM, BUDGET CUTS RELATED TO BUDGET CUTS HERE IN LONG BEACH, UM, ONTO A NEXT, UH, OTHER AGENDA ITEMS THAT YOU MIGHT WANNA SEE SUBJECTS RELATED TO THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION.
UM, I, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MANAGER UPDATES, UM, SOMETIME I SPECIFICALLY REQUEST THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM OUR MARINE BUREAU.
UM, AND WE, WE'VE HAD A BUSY SUMMER SO FAR WITH OUR LIFEGUARDS, AND THERE'S BEEN SOME REALLY WONDERFUL HEROIC EFFORTS.
UM, AND WHEN I'VE BEEN OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, I HEAR A WHOLE LOT OF, UM, ABOVE AND BEYOND STORIES ABOUT BRIAN PLANT.
I, I KNOW HE WORKED CAREFULLY WITH, UM, SEAL BEACH CLUB, UM, AS THEY WERE DOING THE MARINE SWAP MEET, AND, UM, WAS REALLY ACCOMMODATING AND, AND CAME DURING HIS OFF HOURS, MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAD EVERYTHING AND, UM, MADE RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THEN THERE WAS RECENTLY A, UH, A TIKI BOAT THAT HAD NEGOTIATED WITH RAINBOW HARBOR.
AND WHEN I TALKED TO THAT VENDOR, HE, UM, HE COULDN'T STRESS ENOUGH HOW MUCH BRIAN WAS ABLE TO EXPLAIN GUIDELINES TO HIM AND IN A, IN A FRIENDLY YET PROFESSIONAL MANNER.
AND I, I THINK THAT WE AVOID A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITHIN OUR FOOTPRINT BECAUSE OF OUR STAFF.
UM, AND HOW PROACTIVE THEY ARE AND HOW THEY FEEL LIKE IT'S, IT'S CONSTANTLY A, A RESPONSIBILITY TO COMMUNICATE EVERYTHING, UM, TO OUR CUSTOMERS.
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UM, AND IT, IT, IT FEELS GOOD AND IT MAKES ME PROUD WHEN I SEE ANY OF OUR WORKERS OUT THERE AND I SEE 'EM, UM, WHAT, WHAT SEEMS TO BE WORKING HARDER AND WORKING SMARTER, UM, THAN JUST ABOUT ANY OTHER WORKERS AROUND.SO WHAT I HEAR IN YOUR COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER MURRAY, IS THAT YOU WOULD FEEL IT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE ACTION FOR US TO OFFER A COMMENDATION TO BRIAN PLANT FOR HIS ACTIONS AND ACTIVITIES.
UH, NOT SPECIFICALLY, BUT TO TALK ABOUT ALL OF OUR STAFF AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DO.
UM, AND THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT COST SAVINGS, THAT'S A MAJOR COST SAVINGS.
WHEN WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH OUR LEASE HOLDERS, AND I KNOW, UM, HE WALKS THE DOCK, HIS STAFF WALKS, WALKS THE DOCK, AND INSTEAD OF HAVING TO TAKE ACTION, UM, THAT'S MORE SERIOUS AND MORE COSTLY, HE'S PROACTIVE AND REMINDS PEOPLE TO DO THINGS IN KIND AND GENTLE WAYS.
UM, SO DO YOU SUGGEST WE HAVE SORT OF A HIGHLIGHTS REEL OF THE SUMMER? I'D, I'D TO HEAR SOME OF THOSE THINGS? YEAH.
HIGHLIGHTS REEL WOULD BE REALLY NICE.
UM, SOME OF THE, AND, AND SOME OF OUR CUSTOMERS WHO SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT DIFFERENT EMPLOYEES AND THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE DONE, UM, WHEN I, I NOTICED THAT MOST RECENTLY, UM, ONE OF THE VESSELS THAT BELONGS TO A BYC THAT THEY USE FOR NEW BOATERS, UH, WENT UP ON THE ROCKS.
AND, UH, THEN I WATCHED HOW OUR LIFEGUARD TEAM TOWED THE BOAT BACK IN AND, UH, PUMPED IT OUT.
YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY AVOIDED A LOT OF PROBLEMS, UM, THAT WOULD'VE CAUSED POLLUTION WITHIN OUR AREA.
UM, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE SAVING LIVES BECAUSE OF THEIR QUICK ACTION.
WE, WE WE'RE DOING A LOT OF GOOD STUFF OUT THERE.
SO I WILL, UM, SUGGEST FOR OUR SEPTEMBER MEETING, UH, THAT WE OFFER THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSIONERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND THE ACTIVITIES THAT OUR STAFF HAVE, UM, ENGAGED IN IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS, UM, WITH AN APPRECIATION OF THEIR ACTIVITIES, UM, WHICH COULD BE CONSIDERED ABOVE AND BEYOND THE NORMAL, UM, RESPONSIBILITIES.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENT ON THIS? A HIGHLIGHTS REEL? HIGHLIGHT'S? REAL HIGHLIGHT'S.
I LIKE, UH, I LIKE CALLING IT THAT.
IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO RECOGNIZE PEOPLE LIKE THAT.
DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENT FROM STAFF? YEAH.
UM, THE, OUR, OUR MOTHER MANAGER REPORT, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE, A LOT OF IT'S FOCUSED ON MAINTENANCE, BUT WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL MAKE SURE BRIAN'S GROUP ADDS, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE ON WHAT THEIR COMPANIES, 'CAUSE IN THE PAST, IT'S ALWAYS THAT, THAT, UH, THAT PRESENTATION IN THE PACKET HAS ALWAYS BEEN FOCUSED ON MAINTENANCE.
BRIAN'S BEEN ADDING A LITTLE BIT MORE PROGRESSIVELY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MAC MEETINGS.
BUT, UH, WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN GET YOU A GOOD, UH, SUMMER RECAP.
IF WE CAN'T GET IT FOR NEXT WEEK, WE'LL DEFINITELY PUT IN FOR SOMETHING.
SO, ON THE SUBJECT OF OUR ROUTINE AGENDA ITEMS, WHICH ARE THE VARIOUS, UM, MONTHLY REPORTS THAT ARE OFFERED TO US AS MARINA ADVISORY COMMISSIONS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, UM, THE, UM, MARINA BEACH MAINTENANCE AND MARINA OPERATIONS COMMITTEE.
UM, MARINA BEACH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SUBCOMMITTEES? YES.
UH, THE ACTUAL OPERATIONS AND OUR DEPARTMENTS OFFERING THEIR MONTHLY MAINTENANCE REPORTS.
WHO, WHO ARE THOSE GROUPS? REMIND ME.
SO YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE BEACH MAINTENANCE YES.
THOSE ARE OUR THREE DIVISIONS INSIDE THE MARINE BUREAU.
IS IN CHARGE OF BEACH MAINTENANCE.
COREY FORSTER IS IN CHARGE OF MARINE MAINTENANCE.
AND THEN BRIAN PLANT IS IN CHARGE OF OUR MARINE OPERATIONS.
SO I'M GOING TO SUGGEST SOMETHING RATHER GROUNDBREAKING IN LIEU OF OUR CONCERNS ABOUT STAFF TIME AND INVESTMENT IN THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION ACTIVITIES AND THE REPORTS THAT ARE OFFERED TO US EVERY MONTH.
UM, I CALL, I COME FROM A SMALL BUSINESS, UM, BACKGROUND.
MAY I JUST SAY, AND I RECOGNIZE THE TIME AND RESOURCES THAT ARE DEVOTED TO THE KINDS OF PRESENTATIONS THAT ARE MADE TO US ON A MONTHLY BASIS AT MAC.
I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT RATHER THAN MOVING, UH, HAVING
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THIS ON A MONTHLY BASIS, I WOULD SUGGEST, UM, BI-MONTHLY IN THAT, UM, THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY ON A MONTHLY BASIS FOR CERTAIN MANAGEMENT TO BRING FORWARD TOPICS THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN IMPORTANT FOR THAT MONTH, BUT TO CONSOLIDATE THE BEACH MAINTENANCE, MARINE MAINTENANCE, AND MARINE OPERATIONS REPORTS, AND THE PRESENTATION THAT IS MADE TO THE MAC ON A BIMONTHLY BASIS.I THINK THERE COULD BE SOME TIMES SAVINGS IN THIS.
UM, THE HIGHLIGHTS OF TWO MONTHS WORTH OF ACTIVITIES SUBJECT TO THE TIMING AND THE TIME OF YEAR AND KING TIDES AND STORMS AND OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT STAFF IS INVOLVED WITH.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ANYTHING COULD BE, UM, OVERLOOKED.
SHOULD WE SIMPLY MOVE THE MONTHLY MEETINGS TO, UH, MONTHLY REPORTS BY STAFF TO A BIMONTHLY, UH, STAFF REPORT.
CAN I HAVE SOME COMMENTS ON THIS, PLEASE? YOU THAT PLEASE YOU? LIKE A BI QUARTERLY, NOT BIMONTHLY, BUT YOU DON'T WANT IT TWICE A MONTH.
YOU WANT IT ON THE OTHER MONTH? NO, I'M SORRY.
A BI I'M REFERRING TO A REPORT THAT MIGHT COME TO US ON A MONTHLY BASIS TO BE CONSOLIDATED AND GIVEN TO US EVERY TWO MONTHS.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THERE COULD BE SOME, UH, RESOURCE SAVINGS, TIME SAVINGS, UH, UH, STAFF, UH, TIME.
WELL, I THINK THERE WERE SOME EXTRAORDINARY EFFORTS OUT OF BEACH MAINTENANCE WITHIN THE, SINCE OUR LAST MEETING.
AND, AND SO I THINK THAT THERE'S MORE OF A FOCUS ON SOME OF THE YEAH.
EXTRAORDINARY THINGS THAT HAPPENED.
UM, I WILL SAY, WITH COMPLETE RESPECT, I, I FULLY UNDERSTAND THE WORK THAT IS COMPLETED AND THE TASKS THAT OUR MARINE BUREAU STAFF IN GENERAL ARE CONDUCTING.
UM, I, I DON'T MEAN TO SOUND FACETIOUS, BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW, UH, THE IMPORTANCE OF THE NUMBER OF BATHROOM WALLS THAT HAVE BEEN PAINTED IN A MONTH, OR THE NUMBER OF PIPES THAT HAVE BEEN REPAIRED IN A MONTH.
UM, I RECOGNIZE THAT THESE ARE, ARE, ARE SOMETIMES ROUTINE MAINTENANCE, BUT SOMETIMES ABSOLUTELY EXTRAORDINARY.
GET IT DONE, YOU KNOW, TAKE CARE OF THIS REGARDLESS OF THE TIME OF DAY.
UM, HOWEVER, I BELIEVE THAT WE COULD SAVE SOME TIME AND SAVE RESOURCES BY MOVING THOSE REPORTS TO A STANDARD EVERY TWO MONTHS, RATHER THAN EVERY MONTH.
NOW, WHAT WOULD THE SAVINGS BE? UM, WE COULD POTENTIALLY BRING OTHER TOPICS OUTSIDE OF MARINE BUREAU OR PUT OTHER AGENDA ITEMS ONTO OUR CALENDAR FOR A PARTICULAR MONTHLY MEETING THAT WOULDN'T ENGAGE THE SERVICES NECESSARILY OF MARINE BUREAU, THEREBY FREEING UP YOUR STAFF, UM, AND, UH, BRINGING IN OTHER TOPICS FOR OUR AGENDAS, UH, TO THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION.
JUST, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU ADDING TO THAT, I MEAN, LOOK AT, WHEN WE HAVE OUR SUBCOMMITTEES AND THE STAFF HAS TO PRESENT A SUBCOMMITTEE, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THE SAME STAFF IS PRESENTING AT THE MEETING.
SO REALLY MAYBE, MAYBE WE ONLY LOOK AT A COUPLE SUBCOMMITTEES THAT ARE VIABLE FOR THIS MARINE COMMISSION AND NOT HAVE ALL THOSE SUBCOMMITTEES WHERE STAFF ARE DOUBLING UP BECAUSE THE SAME MESSAGE THEY'RE DOING AT THAT SUBCOMMITTEE ON THAT DAY OF OUR MEETING EARLIER, THEY'RE PRESENTING IT TO THE ENTIRE STAFF OR TO THE ENTIRE PUBLIC.
SO MAYBE WE LOOK AT THAT MADAM CHAIR AND STATE, HEY, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE A, A, THE TIDELANDS OR WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S BIG THAT IS REVIEWED WITH A CITY, THAT'S GREAT, BUT IT'S ALREADY BEING REVIEWED AT THE MEETING, LET'S DO AWAY WITH 'EM.
IT'S A, IT'S A CUTTING, LIKE YOU SAID.
I'M SMILING INSIDE BECAUSE THAT TRULY IS A CUT.
I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW HOW MUCH TIME YOU PUT IN, UH, EVERY WEEK, UH, WITH QUESTIONS OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE JUST FOR THIS COMMITTEE.
'CAUSE IT'S ALL DOLLARS GENERATED.
UM, I THINK THERE COULD BE SOME EFFICIENCIES BROUGHT FORWARD WITH RESPECT TO SAVINGS OF TIME AND RESOURCES ON THE PART OF MARINE BUREAU.
WE CAN THEN HAVE SOME TIME AVAILABLE ON OUR AGENDAS THAT COULD ALLOW US TO BRING OTHER TOPICS THAT, UH, MIGHT BE IMPORTANT TO THE PUBLIC WITH RESPECT TO MARINE BUREAU ACTIVITIES, OUR ENVIRONMENT, THE BOATING COMMUNITY, OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT BE THE RESTAURANTS THAT WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM IN, IN A, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
THAT THEY COME IN AND DO A PRESENTATION THAT THE PUBLIC WANTS TO HEAR.
HOW MANY PIPES WERE DONE, HOW MANY TOILETS WERE FIXED, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
EVERY OTHER MONTH LOOKS GREAT, MADAM CHAIR.
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CAN I HAVE SOME FEEDBACK FROM OUR STAFF, OPEN CONVERSATION IF YOU WANT TO GIVE US BACK OUR STAFF TIME.I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S UP TO YOU.
I BELIEVE IT'S RATHER IMPORTANT IN, IN THIS TIME AND IN OUR WORLD, AND GIVEN OUR FINANCIAL CONSTRAINTS HERE IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH, I BELIEVE YOUR STAFF IS GOING TO BE, UH, PUT IN A POSITION OF HAVING TO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR CUTS ARE GOING TO BE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR STAFFING REQUIREMENTS ARE GOING TO BE FOLLOWING THE, THE CITY'S, UH, BUDGET DECISIONS.
BUT I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO MOVE TO, UM, AN AGENDA FOR THE MAC THAT DOES NOT RELY ON YOUR STAFF AND THEIR RESOURCE TIME RESOURCES AS MUCH AS WE MIGHT HAVE HAD IN THE PAST.
SO I ENDORSE, UH, COMMISSIONER MACRA SUGGESTION THAT SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS BE GIVEN TO THE OVER, IF I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY, GIVE IT TO THE MAC IN GENERAL.
THAT IS, IF, UM, WE HAVE CHARLENE ANCO COME TO SPEAK TO THE, UM, TIDELANDS CAPITAL SUBCOMMITTEE, COULD THAT PRESENTATION BE MADE TO THE MAC IN GENERAL RATHER THAN TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE? YES, MA'AM.
AND WE CAN THEN SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH THE PUBLIC.
ALTHOUGH IT'S A SUBCOMMITTEE, THEY ARE AVAILABLE TO COME TO THAT MEETING AS WELL, UM, TO BRING HER TIME INTO THE MAC AGENDA RATHER THAN, THAN ONTO A SUBCOMMITTEE.
SO, AM I HEARING THAT CORRECTLY? YES, MA'AM.
BECAUSE THOSE MEETINGS START AT ONE 30.
AND I LOVE YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS OF, IT'S NOT JUST MARINE MAINTENANCE.
IT'S WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR CITY FOR EVERYBODY TO KNOW.
AND PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE TITLE IS, WHAT'S GOING ON IN LAGOON, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND MAKE IT FOR EVERYONE SO EVERYONE IN THE COMMITTEE HEARS, UH, AND THE COMMISSION'S ALL HERE TOO.
AND AGAIN, I THINK YOU, YOU SMILED A LITTLE BIT WHEN IT'S REALIZING THAT I JUST, YOU WANT TO DISSOLVE YOUR SUBCOMMITTEES? NO, I THINK THAT THERE COULD BE, UM, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HOLD THE, WELL, THEY'RE HOLD ON, HELD ON A QUARTERLY BASIS FOR THE MOST PART.
UM, UH, I THINK YOU SHOULD MADAM CHAIR, WHY? I MEAN, I'M ON THE COMMITTEES, BUT I'M JUST GOING, IT IS JUST DOUBLE TIME.
LET'S HOLD, LET'S PUT A PLACEHOLDER ON THAT SUBJECT.
I'M, I HAVE RESERVATIONS AS WELL FOR HAVING, HAVING A DOUBLE PRESENTATION KNOW IT'S NOT SIT STAFF.
SO IF SOMEONE COMES IN FOR A SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING, THEN I HAVE TO SAY I'M DOING THE SAME PRESENTATION AGAIN.
THAT IS NOT WHAT WE'RE SUGGESTING NOW.
NO, WE'RE SAYING THAT THEY COME INTO THE MAIN FOR THE MAC, THE MAC MEETING.
NO, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHAT'S THE POINT OF YOUR
LET US PUT A, LET US RESERVE THAT AS A FUTURE CONVERSATION.
WITH RESPECT TO THE QUESTION OF THE MAX ACTIVITIES AND THE MARINE BUREAU SUPPORT OF THE MARINE OF THE MAX.
I DON'T THINK ANYTHING AT THIS POINT SHOULD BE OFF THE TABLE IN THAT RESPECT.
THAT WOULD BE A FULL COMMISSION CONVERSATION.
IT'D HAVE TO BE AN AGENDA ITEM, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A CHANGE THE BYLAWS.
AND I WILL ALSO SPEAK TO THIS FACT THAT, UM, MANY YEARS AGO I, UH, SERVED ON THIS.
AT THAT TIME IT WAS KNOWN AS THE SUSTAINABLE CITY COMMISSION, AND IT SERVED AS CHAIR ON THAT COMMISSION AS WELL FOR, UM, A GOOD YEAR.
UM, AND THE, THE METHOD IN WHICH THAT COMMISSION OPERATED WITH RESPECT TO OUR STAFF, UH, SUPPORT AND WHAT WAS, UH, NEEDED TO, UM, MOVE THE SUSTAINABLE CITY COMMISSION'S, UM, AGENDA AND THEIR MISSION FORWARD, UM, WAS A DIFFERENT TIME, YOU KNOW, 15 YEARS AGO.
BUT, UM, IT WAS MUCH MORE, IT WAS SIMPLER.
UM, IT WAS A SIMPLER, UM, COMMISSION AT THE TIME.
I THINK THEY HAVE CHANGED IN THEIR CONCEPTS AND THEIR, UH, UH, OBJECTIVES SERVING THE COMMUNITY OF LONG BEACH AND THE RESIDENTS OF LONG BEACH.
HOWEVER, UM, I REALLY DO RECOGNIZE WHEN I LOOK AND SIT ON THE COMMISSION AND SEE A ROOM OF FILLED WITH MANY OF YOUR TOP STAFF AND THEIR TIME AND THEIR, UM, ACTIVITIES, SERVING THE MAC MAY NOT ALWAYS BE AS APPROPRIATE SITTING IN A MEETING AND LISTENING TO US.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THAT FORWARD AND SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION AT ANOTHER EXECUTIVE MEETING, POTENTIALLY AS AN AGENDA ITEM, I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST A REVIEW OF OUR SUBCOMMITTEE SUPPORT AND THE NEED FOR SUBCOMMITTEES,
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UM, GIVEN THE FINANCIAL SITUATION IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH AND STAFFING CONSIDERATIONS.UM, SO DO I HAVE, AND TELL ME IF I'M HEARING THIS, DO I HAVE SUPPORT FOR THE MOVEMENT OF OUR MONTHLY REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS FROM BEACH MAINTENANCE, MARINE MAINTENANCE, AND MARINE OPERATIONS TO MOVE THAT TO A REPORT THAT MIGHT BE EVERY TWO MONTHS? YES, MA'AM.
AND, UH, ABSENT ANY OTHER, YOU KNOW, CRITICAL ACTIVITIES THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING WITH RESPECT TO MARINE OPERATIONS OR TO BEACH MAINTENANCE, WHICH COULD BE A BROUGHT INTO YOUR MANAGER'S REPORT.
UM, I WOULD SUSPECT THAT WE WOULDN'T BE MISSING THAT MUCH IF IT WERE ROLLED INTO A, UH, CONSOLIDATED REPORT EVERY TWO MONTHS.
I, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT OUR MONTHLY MANAGER'S REPORT IS THAT REPORT
I WOULD GIVE, I'D GIVE YOU TOP END KIND OF, HEY, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT.
I THINK BACK TO OUR HIGHLIGHTS, REAL HIGHLIGHTS, HIGHLIGHTS OF THE, OF THE, OF THE MONTH.
AND THEN AGAIN, I'M, I, I'M TRYING TO PUT THIS IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE IS BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, YES, YOU WANT TO GIVE US OUR STAFF TIME BACK.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR STAFF IS AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT AND PROVIDE ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ON ANY GIVEN MONTH.
SO JUST REALLY, REALLY WORK THIS THROUGH IN HOW YOU WANT TO DO THIS.
'CAUSE UH, THE SUPERINTENDENTS, THEY'RE VITAL.
THEY'RE, THEY, THEY ARE THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND STAFF.
UM, THEY PROVIDE ME WITH A LOT OF INFORMATION, AND THEN I CAN RELAY THAT TO YOU.
BUT CERTAIN THINGS ARE LOST IN THAT RELAY.
AND HAVING THEM THERE IS, IS A BENEFIT TO YOU.
AND I JUST PUT THAT IN YOUR HEADS.
AND I, AND I, I HEAR EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS AND FROM THE PERSPECTIVE THAT IT'S BEING OFFERED.
UM, I WILL ALSO REITERATE THAT I'M A SMALL BUSINESS PERSON AND UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF TOP LEVEL MANAGEMENT IN A PUBLIC SETTING SUPPORTING THE MARINA ADVISORY COMMISSION MAY NOT ALWAYS BE THE BEST USE OF THEIR TIME.
UM, THERE ARE GOING TO BE EXCEPTIONS AND THERE ARE GOING TO BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO SPEAK TO TOPICS AND, UH, ISSUES THAT ARE, AND SUBJECTS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION.
UM, SO WITH THAT, I THINK WE COULD POTENTIALLY MEET IN THE MIDDLE SOMEWHERE AND UNDERSTAND THAT A, GIVEN THE CONSTRAINTS THAT WERE FINANCIAL CONSTRAINTS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH IN THIS WORLD RIGHT NOW, THAT WE SHOULD BE OFFERING, UM, WAYS TO, UM, MAKE YOUR SERVICES MORE EFFICIENT TO THE SUPPORT OF THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION AND SHOWING THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THE LEADERSHIP HERE IS LOOKING AT REDUCING COST.
UM, AND THAT MAKES A STATEMENT.
I MEAN, I, I, I SIT WITH OUR MAYOR EVERY OTHER WEEK AND WE TALK ABOUT REDUCTIONS AND THINGS, AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP JUST ON, ON SOME OF THE COMMISSIONS.
YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT DO THEY MAKE AND WHAT IS THE STAFF TIME? I MEAN, I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, MADAM CHAIR, I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW YOUR STAFF TIME, HOW MANY HOURS YOU PUT IN A WEEK JUST FOR MARINE COMMISSION.
GIVE US THE NUMBER, THE NUMBER OF HOURS.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE TOP OF HEAD OFF THE CUFF, I'D SAY 20 OF HOURS A WEEK.
'CAUSE I DEAL WITH THE PUBLIC TOO, WITH COMMISSION QUESTIONS AND SCHEDULING, SCHEDULING THE AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY.
SO, UM, I, AND WE TRULY VALUE
UM, COULD WE, UM, LOOK TO, UH, REDUCE THAT BURDEN ON YOUR TIME BY MAYBE POTENTIALLY CONSOLIDATING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DEAL WITH ON A MONTHLY BASIS? SO IT'S NOT ALL GONNA GO AWAY, BUT CERTAINLY MADAM CHAIR, MAYBE IT'S JUST, I MEAN, JUST GO AHEAD, PLEASE.
I NEED, I NEED TO BE VERY HONEST HERE IS OUR SUPPORT OF THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION IS BAKED, IT'S BAKED INTO OUR BUDGET.
WE DON'T HAVE A, A BUDGET ISSUE IN RELATION TO SUPPORTING THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION.
UM, WE WANT TO PROVIDE YOU AS MUCH SUPPORT AS YOU WANT.
AND, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, YEAH, WE DO, WE DO PROVIDE RESOURCES OF STAFF TIME AND EFFORT TO THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION, BUT THAT'S REALLY BAKED INTO WHAT WE DO ON A MONTHLY BASIS, RIGHT? YES.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S TWO THURSDAYS A MONTH.
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JUST WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS WE SUPPORT THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION.I KNOW THERE IS A, A THOUGHT PROCESS OF, HEY, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE MAKE THE COMMISSIONS MORE ALL, AND I'M SPEAKING HOLISTICALLY THROUGHOUT THE CITY, HOW DO WE MAKE ALL THE COMMISSIONS MORE EFFICIENT TO, TO FREE UP STAFF TIME? BUT IN THE MARINE BUREAU, IN REGARD TO THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION, WE DON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM.
BUT, BUT THEIR PLATE, YOUR PLATES ARE GETTING FULLER AND FULLER WITH ALL THE OLYMPIC SUPPORT.
AND THEN I KNOW THAT WE ARE A TOP COMMISSION WHEN IT COMES TO COMPLIANCE, LIKE ON TRAINING.
AND, AND I REALLY CREDIT TAMLIN WITH A LOT OF OUR GOOD STATS THERE.
UM, BECAUSE SHE'S NUDGING US AND, UH, AND PUTTING ALL OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE SYSTEM AND THE TURNAROUND TIME ON OUR AGENDAS, UM, THAT'S, IT'S, IT'S OUR PHENOMENAL STAFF.
WELL, I AM, IT'S, IT'S NOT MISSED ON US.
UM, I THINK WE SHOULD BE MORE PROACTIVE AND HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THE MAT COULD WORK MORE EFFICIENTLY.
AND THAT GOES TO THE USE OF YOUR STAFF TIME, WHERE IF, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, LIN'S TIME MIGHT BE REDIRECTED IN OTHER WAYS, ALTHOUGH THIS IS BAKED INTO YOUR STAFF AND RE AND, AND BUDGET, UM, THERE'S NOTHING SAYING THAT, UM, WE COULDN'T REDUCE THE BURDEN.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD DO, YEAH.
THAT'S COMPLETELY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE ADVISORY COMMISSION.
ANY OTHER SUBJECTS TOPICS THAT COULD BE BROUGHT FORWARD TO A FUTURE MARINE ADVISORY AGENDA? I HAVE ONE.
I'M VERY INTERESTED IN BETTER UNDERSTANDING, UM, THE IDEA OF, UH, JUNE RESTORATION.
I'M A BROKEN RECORD, FORGIVE ME.
UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO BRING IN EXPERTS IN THE SUBJECT TO HELP BETTER UN THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSIONERS BETTER UNDERSTAND, UM, THE MARINE BUREAU'S EFFORTS TO, UH, USE AND REBUILD BERMS TO PROTECT HOMES ON THE PENINSULA.
AND THE NOTION THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT A, UH, ALAMEDA BAY DREDGING PROJECT ONCE WE GET A CONTRACTOR, UM, TO, UM, MOVE SAND FROM THE CHANNEL ONTO THE PENINSULA BEACH, THEREBY CREATING A VERY WIDE BARRIER BEACH FOR HOMES THAT ARE IN AT RISK.
UH, THE NOTION OF KEEPING THAT SAND ON THE BEACH HAS BEEN ONE OF MY, UM, UM, CONCERNS.
AND, UH, RESTORATION HAS BEEN FOUND TO WORK TOWARD THAT.
IT IS NOT A HIGH BUDGET AND, UH, FINANCIAL INVESTMENT.
UH, THERE ARE FUNDS AVAILABLE AT THE STATE LEVEL, UM, AS BEEN SUCCESSFULLY IMPLEMENTED IN OTHER COASTAL COMMUNITIES IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
UM, HOW DO WE GO ABOUT BRINGING SOMEONE TO SPEAK TO THE, UM, MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION? IS IT A MATTER OF, UH, EXTENDING AN INVITATION TO, LET'S SAY, THE BAY FOUNDATION IN SANTA MONICA? IT MIGHT BE AN, UM, AN HAVING RECENTLY LOOKED AT, UM, SOME PRESENTATIONS MADE BY, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL NONPROFITS IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WHO ARE VERY ACTIVELY INVOLVED WITH OTHER COASTAL COMMUNITIES IN SAN DIEGO, FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE, UM, THOSE COMMUNITIES, THOSE CITIES WERE LOOKING AT, UM, UH, SERIOUSLY HAVING TO CONSIDER WAYS TO, UM, PREVENT SAND EROSION ON THEIR BEACHES.
AND WE'RE LOOKING TO ENVIRONMENTAL NONPROFITS TO IMPLEMENT PROJECTS WITHIN THEIR CITIES.
UM, AND THERE'S A REALLY GREAT YOUTUBE VIDEO OUT THERE, UH, THAT WITHIN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, THAT EXPLAINS WHAT ACTIVITIES WERE DONE BY THESE CITIES TO, UH, COORDINATE ACTIVITIES WITH ENVIROS AND THEN OBTAIN FUNDING FROM THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA FOR DUNE RESTORATION.
UM, MAY I SUGGEST THAT I TAKE THIS ON AS A, UH, FUTURE AGENDA ITEM THAT COULD, UH, HELP, UH, FRAME A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE PENINSULA BEACH RESTORATION, SAM, UM, FULFILLMENT FROM ALAMEDA BAY, AND HOPEFULLY CAPTURE THE ATTENTION OF CITY STAFF INVOLVED IN THESE PROJECTS.
AND AS CHARLENE AND SUKA COMES AND SPEAKS TO US AT OUR, UH, CAPITAL, YOU KNOW, UM,
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DON'T KNOW.UH, BUT SHE HAS SPOKEN ABOUT THESE PROJECTS OTHER, UM, TIDELANDS FUNDS, CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN THE SUBJECT OF GRANTS MADE ON THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA IN ORDER TO AUGMENT THE FUNDING FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT.
AND FORGIVE ME, I CAN'T THINK OF WHICH ONE IT WAS, BUT I THOUGHT SOMEONE WAS THINKING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX AT CITY HALL WHEN IT COMES TO TRYING TO BRING IN OTHER FUNDING, AND THIS MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNE TIME WITH RESPECT TO THE, THE BEACH ON THE PENINSULA.
ANY THOUGHTS? CAN I, UH, I GUESS TODD TO YOU, IF WE HAD HAD THAT CONTRACT AND THE DREDGING HAD STARTED ON TIME, LIKE WE HAD HOPED, WOULD THAT HAVE REDUCED THE ISSUE THAT WE HAD THIS PAST, UH, MONTH ON IT? IT WOULDN'T HAVE REDUCED ANYTHING.
THERE WE'RE, WE'RE ACTUALLY ON TIME THE JURY.
UM, WE'RE EXPECTING, UH, WE HAVE THE CONTRACT GOING TO CONTRACT AWARD GOING TO THE COUNCIL ON THE 11TH, AND THEN, UH, WE'RE HOPING TO MOBILIZE, UH, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER.
SO THAT IS, THAT IS THE GOAL OF THAT, UH, THAT PROJECT.
AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING TO MOVE UPWARDS OF 400,000 CUBIC YARDS OF BEACH READY SAND MATERIAL OUT OF THEUS CHANNEL OVER TO THE BEACH FRONT, WHICH WOULD CREATE APPROXIMATELY 200 FEET OF, UH, BEACH FROM 72ND WESTWARD TO, THEY'RE SAYING 64TH, 63RD.
WE'LL SEE, DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, AND YEAH, THE RADIANT THE LINE MADAM CHAIR, HAVING SOMEBODY COME IN, I THINK TO E EXPLAIN SOME OF THAT TOO.
AGAIN, UH, A, A DUNE ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP, MORE INFORMATION, BUT THE MORE INFORMATION WE CAN GET TO, AND IT IS SCIENCE.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT SPOKEN, THE SUBJECT IS NOT DEALT WITH IN THE, THE SCHEME OF, UM, WELL, IF WE, YOU KNOW, COULD ONLY DO THIS OR IF WE COULD INVESTIGATE THIS, THIS IS, UM, ESTABLISHED, UM, HABITAT RESTORATION PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN FOUND TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
SO IT'S NOT AN EXPERIMENT SO MUCH AS, UM, THE OPPORTUNITY TO IMPLEMENT IT.
UM, AND AS I, FORGIVE ME, BUT AS I AM FOND OF SAYING, THE MOMENT THAT SAND LANDS ON PENINSULA, BEACH STARTS, RIGHT, IT IS MOVING MM-HMM
SO IT, AT THE TIME, THE CLOCK IS ALREADY TICKING.
UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE IT AT THAT AND SEE WHAT I CAN DO TO BRING IN SOMEONE FROM THE BAY FOUNDATION OR SURF RIDER FOUNDATION WHO HAVE BEEN ACTIVELY, UH, WORKING ON THESE PROJECTS WITHIN THE COASTAL COMMUNITIES IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE LOOKING AT THIS YOU BET.
WHO DO NOT HAVE TIDE LANDS FUNDS BEHIND THEM IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT THESE PROJECTS.
UM, ANOTHER ITEM THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND BRING FORWARD IS, UM, THE CITY OF LONG BEACH'S EFFORTS TO REACTIVATE, UM, THE BELMONT VETERANS, OR, I'M SORRY, VETERANS MEMORIAL PIER AND ACTIVE, UH, EFFORTS ON THE PART OF OUR THIRD DISTRICT CITY COUNCIL PERSON, UH, CHRISTINA DUGGAN AND HER, UM, I'LL CALL IT PRIVATE PAR, UH, PUBLIC PRIVATE, UM, UH, UH, ACTIVITIES, RESEARCHING ACTIVITIES TO FUND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PIER PRIOR TO THE 2028 OLYMPICS.
AND I KNOW THAT THE CITY OF LONG BEACH, UM, IS INITIATING, UM, OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE INITIATING, UH, ACTIVITIES TO IMPROVE THAT PEER.
I'D LIKE TO SEE A PRESENTATION MADE IN PUBLIC.
MY OBJECTIVE IS TO GET THIS INFORMATION OUT.
'CAUSE THE, AS IT'S BEEN STATED, THE LAST REAL CONVERSATION IN PUBLIC WAS ANY NUMBER OF YEARS AGO.
AND IT WAS A RAINBOW STYLE, YOU KNOW, HORSESHOE PIER, AND NOBODY HAD ANY IDEA HOW MUCH IT WAS GONNA COST.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS PRETTY PICTURES.
UM, WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH OUR PEER? WHAT COULD BE HAPPENING WITH OUR PEER? WHAT ARE THE OBJECTIVES OF DEALING WITH OUR PEER, UM, MOVING FORWARD? MM-HMM
SO COULD WE INVITE CITY STAFF INVOLVED WITH THE, UM, THERE WAS A WOMAN FROM, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, I BELIEVE AT COUNCILWOMAN DUGGAN MEETING.
AND, UM, COULD WE INVITE, UM, STUDIO ONE 11 AND OR PRESENT THE INFORMATION IN A MAYBE SHORTENED WAY IN THEIR VISION OF WHAT THE PEER MIGHT BE, UM, WITH THE, THE RESOURCES THAT ARE FINANCIAL RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US RIGHT NOW? UM, OR THE EXPECTED FINANCIAL RESOURCES THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE FOR THE PEER AS WE GO AHEAD.
BECAUSE WE DO KNOW THAT THERE IS NO TIDE LENS FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR A PEER RESTORATION.
THERE ARE NO GENERAL FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR A PEER RESTORATION.
THOSE ARE VERY OBJECTIVE STATEMENTS WHEN IT COMES TO THE WORLD OF FINANCE THESE DAYS.
WHAT IS BEING DONE CREATIVELY, MAY I SAY, AND TO,
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UM, SUPPORT THOSE ACTIVITIES AND GIVE THOSE ACTIVITIES A BROADER WINDOW? UM, BESIDES, UH, CHRISTINA DUGGAN'S EFFORTS WITH HER, UH, ADVISORY COMMISSION OR COMMITTEE THAT SHE'S ESTABLISHED, DO I HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS? I, I, I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW.I MEAN, I, I, YOU KNOW, MADAM CHAIR, I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW, 'CAUSE SITTING IN MEETINGS, UH, THE PEER ISN'T BROUGHT UP TOO MANY TIMES AND IT SHOULD BE BROUGHT UP.
UH, ESPECIALLY WITH THE OLYMPICS COMING, UM, UH, WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME LEFT.
ON THAT SUBJECT, COULD WE HAVE ANY UPDATE ON THE 2028 OLYMPICS FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION INVOLVING MARINE BUREAU ACTIVITIES? ON A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM? JUST A RECAP, POTENTIALLY FOR WHAT WE KNOW AT THIS MOMENT.
I THINK ALL KINDS OF THINGS POP UP.
LIKE THE NAPLES COMMUNITY'S MEETING ABOUT THE MURAL THEY'RE PUTTING ON THE DAVIES BRIDGE FOR THE OLYMPICS.
ALL OF THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST AMAZING THINGS ARE HAPPENING EVERY DAY.
I THINK JANUARY WOULD BE A GOOD, UH, 'CAUSE I KNOW THERE'LL BE RELEASING A LOT OF INFORMATION IN JANUARY REGARDING SECURITY AND SAFETY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO MAYBE THAT WOULD BE A GOOD MONTH, UH, TO HAVE, UH, SOMEONE COME OUT, AT LEAST DO AN UPDATE.
AND I MEAN, I HAVE HEARD THIS IN PUBLIC MEETINGS RELATED TO THE 2028 OLYMPICS.
UM, AND I DON'T MEAN TO SOUND FACETIOUS, BUT IT IS A SECRET SERVICE ACTIVITY, AND SO THEY ARE NOT SHARING, BUT WE DO KNOW CERTAIN ELEMENTS OF WHAT THE PLANNING WILL BE AS WE MOVE ALONG.
I'M NOT SURE, UH, WE'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE TOO MUCH INFORMATION AS TO SECURITY, BUT OTHER ELEMENTS OF IT.
I THINK JUST THE CLOSURES, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT RESIDENTIAL, THEY CAN GIVE YOU A BROAD SCOPE.
UH, I WAS IN LA WITH THE COMMITTEE AND, AND IT, IT'S, NO ONE'S RELEASING ANYTHING.
'CAUSE THE LONG BEACH PD HAS THEIR IDEA, UH, OLYMPIC SECURITY HAS THEIR IDEA AND SECRET SERVICE HASN'T EVEN COME IN TO TELL THEM WHAT'S HAPPENING YET.
SO IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S INTERESTING.
I LOOK AT THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE AROUND THE, UH, AROUND THIS, AROUND THE MARINA BOATS COMING IN AND OUT, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
THEY WON'T, I DON'T THINK THEY'LL KNOW THAT UNTIL SECRET SERVICES IN OUR FOOTPRINT, SECRET SERVICES IS SPEAKING WITH ALL THE RELEVANT PARTIES, TALKING TO SPECIAL EVENTS, TALKING, TALKING TO OUR LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT, LONG BEACH FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND YOU KNOW, US IN GENERAL.
UH, BUT IT, IT'S NOT SO MUCH AS THESE GROUPS AREN'T TALKING TO EACH OTHER, IT'S MORE THEY'RE PROTECTING THE OPERATIONAL SECURITY OF THE EVENT.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE BEST WAY TO NOT HAVE SOMETHING BAD HAPPEN IS TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE DON'T, DON'T TELL ME.
DON'T, NO, DON'T TELL ANYBODY WHAT YOU'RE DOING UNTIL, YOU KNOW, DOWN THE ROAD.
NOW, WHEN I SAY DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING, I MEAN, YOU'RE KEEPING YOUR OPERATIONAL SECURITY PLANS CLOSE TO YOUR VEST SO AS NOT TO GIVE, YOU KNOW, BAD ACTORS.
YOU CAN GO ONLINE AND FIND OUT WHERE THEY'RE ALL AT.
AND LORD KNOWS WE HAVE A LOT OF 'EM IN THE CITY, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM FORWARD, UM, WHETHER THAT IS TRULY AN AGENDA ITEM OR SUGGESTION IN TERMS OF OPERATIONS FROM THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION.
BUT I HAVE PARTICIPATED IN A RETREAT, UM, THAT WAS PLANNED FOR COMMISSIONERS.
UM, THIS WAS AT LEAST 18 MONTHS AGO, AND IT TOOK PLACE AT THE, UM, PARKS, REC AND MARINE BUILDING DOWN BY THE AQUARIUM.
AND I FELT IT WAS A VERY, UM, USEFUL EXERCISE TO BRING IN, UH, COMMISSIONERS.
AND GIVEN THE NOTION THAT WE WILL HAVE SOME NEW, UH, NEW FACES ON OUR COMMISSION, HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, WE HAVE A NEW NEWLY DESIGNATED, UH, TIM EHRLICH FROM, UH, LONG BEACH BOAT.
UH, OWNERS ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN RE RECENTLY APPOINTED.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE OTHER NAMES BEING, UM, CONSIDERED RIGHT NOW WHO WILL BE HOPEFULLY, UM, SEATED ON OUR COMMISSION IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
IT MIGHT BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THOSE PEOPLE INTO THE, UM, MAC IN A WAY THAT HAS THEM BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT YOU ALL DO AND HOW THE MAC OPERATES IN A FOUR HOUR SESSION.
WAS IT A FOUR HOUR SESSION? YES, MA'AM.
WHAT, WHAT DID WE DO? IT WAS FOUR HOUR SESSION.
WE HAD LENGTH, WE HAD LUNCH AFTERWARDS.
DIDN'T WE HAVE SANDWICHES AFTER? YEAH, IT'S BEEN A COUPLE YEARS.
WE JUST, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE NEW CITY CLERK RULES.
THEY'RE BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, UH, CONSCIENTIOUS OF HOW RETREATS ARE MANAGED.
SO, UH, YES, WE'LL GET SOMETHING DONE.
WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING IT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY CLERKS, UH, POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
WE HAD THE LEGAL TEAM, I BELIEVE THE LAWYER, ONE
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OF OUR LAWYERS WAS THERE, GAVE US A REVIEW.WE BROWN ACT STUFF AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE JUST SORT OF DONE IN A WAY TO HELP EVERYONE SITTING AT THE TIME.
WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL HAVE A CITY ATTORNEY, UH, REPRESENTATIVE PRESENT.
WE'LL HAVE, UH, MARINE PATROL PRESENT.
WE'LL HAVE LONG BEACH MARINE SAFETY PRESENT, AND THEN WE'LL JUST KIND GIVE YOU A, A 360 DEGREE VIEW SURE.
AND YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES, WHEN WOULD THAT BE? USUALLY WE SCHEDULE IT, DO THAT, USUALLY WE DO THAT IN DECEMBER.
UH, THAT'S, AND PUT THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING.
UM, INSTEAD OF A MAC MEETING FOR THE MONTH OF DECEMBER, WE WOULD HAVE A RETREAT.
NOW WE JUST HAVE TO, WE JUST HAVE TO SPEAK WITH OUR CITY CLERK YES.
OFFICE TO UNDERSTAND IF WE CAN HAVE IT AS A RETREAT OR IF IT HAS TO BE AN OPEN TO THE PUBLIC EVENT.
IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE OF US THERE, SO, SO NOT THAT WOULD BE FINE.
UM, AND DO WE HAVE A POTENTIAL LOCATION THAT WOULD HOLD ENOUGH PEOPLE? BECAUSE THAT MEETING SPACE DOWN AT, UM, YEAH, WE GET A LITTLE TIGHT OUT THERE, SO YEAH.
WHERE COULD IT BE? WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE TO, WE'LL WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AROUND AND WE'LL SEE WHAT WE DO.
I WOULD NOT BE ADVERSE TO A RETREAT AT THE LONG BEACH YACHT CLUB.
SHOULD, UM, OUR COMMISSIONERS AGREE TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND, UM, WE'RE GONNA GET THAT STRIKE TAKEN CARE OF THIS WEEK THEN
UM, IN, IN THE EVENT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE EXPENSE TO RENT A SPACE, UM, FOR A RETREAT, IT SEEMS TO ME IS WORTH THE TIME AND TROUBLE.
SO, UM, ABSENT ANY OTHER AGENDA ITEMS, SUGGESTIONS, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYONE WHO MIGHT WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS TOPIC? UH, FORMER MARINE VERO MANAGER.
UH, DICK MILLER HAS RETURNED FROM THE HOSPITAL AND HE'S IN HOSPICE RIGHT NOW.
UH, AND MAYBE A CLOSING TRIBUTE TO HIM, UH, CONTINGENT ON, ON HOW THINGS ALL PLAY OUT IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS.
COULD YOU KEEP IN TOUCH WITH ME ON THAT AND I'LL HAVE SOMETHING PREPARED, UM, OR WE CAN RELY ON, COULD WE RELY ON YOU TO CLOSE THE MEETING? UM, AND THAT'S THE OTHER ITEM IS I HAVE SOME FAMILY COMMITMENTS THAT I WILL BE MISSING OUR MEETING.
IF YOU WERE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SHARE WITH YOU, PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION FOR ME, SOME OF HIS CONTRIBUTIONS WHILE HE WAS TO THE MARINE BUREAU MANAGER.
SO YOU WILL BE AT NEXT WEEK'S MEETING? CORRECT.
WELL, WE HAVE RUM FOR QUORUM RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO ABSENT ANY OTHER, UM, COMMON OR REC OR DISCUSSIONS OR, UH, SUGGESTIONS FOR FUTURE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION AGENDA ITEMS, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION.
CAN WE HAVE A, A SECOND, BUT WE HAVE A SECOND AND YEAH, THAT'S HOW WE HAD THE DISCUSSION.
NOW WE'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE ON, I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.
SO, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVED.
UM, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS A MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION EXECUTIVE COMMISSION EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE ON NON AGENDA ITEMS. SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE AHEAD TO ANNOUNCEMENTS AND THE ANNOUNCEMENTS.
TO BE MADE FOR OUR EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AGENDA.
UM, I WILL CALL THE ADJOURNMENT TO THE MEETING AT ROUGHLY, UH, 9 34.