* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:04:45] HELLO, EVERYBODY. [CALL TO ORDER] UM, I'M JAN HOWER. I'M THE, UH, TRANSITION AND USE TAX CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, VICE CHAIR. AND I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER, UH, FOR AUGUST 13TH, 2026. [00:05:02] UM, CLERK, COULD [ROLL CALL] YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE MEMBER? AMY? PRESENT. MEMBER TU PRESENT VICE CHAIR HOWER. PRESENT. WE HAVE QUORUM. UM, CLERK, I WOULD [CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR ELECTION] ASK YOU TO READ THE FIRST ITEM. WE, BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED TO THE ELECTION AS ITEM NUMBER ONE. WE'RE GONNA ACCELERATE THAT. YES. UH, PLEASE NOTE, I WILL CONTINUE TO CHAIR THE MEETING AND THE CHAIR ELECT AND VICE CHAIR ELECT TERMS WILL BEGIN AFTER THE ELECTION. SO, UM, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN NOMINATIONS. I DECLARE THE NOMINATIONS OPEN FOR THE CHAIR OF THE TRANSITIONS AND USE TAX CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE. EACH MEMBER MAY NOMINATE ONE PERSON FOR CHAIR, INCLUDING YOURSELF. THESE NOMINATIONS DO NOT REQUIRE A SECOND. OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A NOMINATIONS. NOW, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE, UH, MEMBER NUK FOR CHAIR. I ACCEPT. OH, OKAY. I ACCEPT THE NOMINATION. CAN I MAKE ANOTHER NOMINATION FOR VICE THAT VOTE? SO IF WE CAN FIRST, UH, DO NOMINATIONS FOR THE CHAIR. WE'LL CLOSE THOSE AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A VOTE FOR THE CHAIR, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO VICE CHAIR. OKAY. UH, SO IF THERE'S, UH, THERE BEING NO FURTHER NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIR, THE NOMINATIONS ARE NOW CLOSED FOR CHAIR. OKAY. AND THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE FOR MEMBER UNTUCK FOR CHAIR. I'LL GO AHEAD AND DO A VERBAL, UM, MEMBER. AMY, MY BOY. AYE. YEAH. YES. MARK. AYE. MEMBER INUK AYE. AND VICE CHAIR HOWARD. AYE. MOTION IS CARRIED. CONGRATULATIONS. CHAIR ELECT INUK. THANK YOU. AND, UM, LET'S SEE. UM, VICE CHAIR, NOW WE NEED NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR. YES, I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE, UH, MEMBER HOWER. OKAY. I'LL, I'LL ACCEPT THAT NOMINATION. ARE THERE ANY FURTHER NOMINATIONS? SEEING NONE. THAT CONCLUDES THE NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO ANOTHER VERBAL FOR VICE CHAIR. UH, MEMBER MEMBER EMMY. I, I FAVOR THAT MEMBER I SUPPORT. AND VICE CHAIR HOWARD, UM, I SUPPORT. CONGRATULATIONS, VICE CHAIR HOWARD, YOU ARE CONTINUING TO BE VICE CHAIR. SO NOW WE CAN, UH, MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REGULAR AGENDA. IF THE CHAIR ELECT WOULD LIKE TO CHAIR THE MEETING MOVING FORWARD, YOU CAN. GREAT. AND WE'LL ALL KEEP OUR SAME SEATS. ALRIGHT, UH, LET'S MOVE ON WITH THE AGENDA. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER ONE OF THE REGULAR AGENDA, UM, IS THE CLERK READS IT. ITEM [1. 26-55796 Recommendation to approve the minutes for the Transactions and Use Tax Citizens’ Advisory Committee meeting of Thursday, June 4, 2026.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] NUMBER ONE IS A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE TRANSACTION AND USE TAX CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING OF THURSDAY, JUNE 4TH, 2026. THE MINUTES ARE ATTACHED. THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM THAT WE'LL NEED A MOTION IN A SECOND TO ADVANCE. CAN I ASK ONE OF THE MEMBERS FOR A MOTION SOLE MOVED. UM, I'M, I THINK YOU NEED TO SECOND WELL, HE, HE, UH, WE NEED A SECOND. OH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SECOND? I MOVED. OH, DID YOU? OH, SORRY. I WAS LISTENING FOR AUDIO AND NOT READING THE SCREEN. ALRIGHT, SO, UM, MEMBER EMMY ARE, ARE YOU SECONDING THE MOTION? YES. ALRIGHT. THE MOTION TO, UH, ADOPT THE MINUTES HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED? SEEING, HEARING NONE, UH, CITY CLERK WILL TAKE A A VOTE. I'M JUST GONNA CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE VOTE. IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM ONE IN PERSON, PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM AT THIS TIME. SEEING NONE. THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. FOR ITEM ONE, I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE VOTE ON YOUR SCREENS. MEMBER AMY, I CAN UH, HAVE A VERBAL FROM YOU. MEMBER AMY VERBAL PURPLE. YES. YES. I'M SORRY. DO YOU SUPPORT THE ACCEPTANCE? YES. [00:10:01] OF THE MINUTES? YES. I THINK, UH, HIS SCREEN IS NOT SHOWING THE VOTING OPTIONS. JUST I CAN TAKE A VERBAL MEMBER. AMY? YES. YES. OKAY. NOTED. MOTION IS CARRIED. ALRIGHT, MOVING TO ITEM TWO. THIS IS, UH, A BUDGET PRESENTATION. WE'LL HAVE THE CITY CLERK READ THE ITEM TO START. ITEM NUMBER [2. 26-55799 Recommendation to receive and file a presentation on the proposed allocations of Measure A funds in the Proposed Fiscal Year 27 Budget, including infrastructure projects; and Confirm that City Manager’s proposed Measure A spending plan in the Proposed Fiscal Year 27 Budget conforms with the intent of Resolution No. RES-16-0018 and RES-19-0127 prioritizing spending and with the language contained in the ballot measure expressed in Resolution No. RES-16-0017 and RES-19-0173.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] TWO IS A RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A PRESENTATION ON THE PROPOSED ALLOCATIONS OF MEASURE A FUNDS IN THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 27 BUDGET, INCLUDING INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS AND CONFIRMED THE CITY MANAGER'S PROPOSED. MEASURE A SPENDING PLAN IN THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 27 BUDGET CONFORMS WITH THE INTENT OF RESOLUTION NUMBER RES DASH 16 DASH 0 1 8 AND RES DASH 19 DASH 0 1 27. PRIORITIZING SPENDING AND THE WITH THE LANGUAGE CONTAINED IN THE BALLOT MEASURE EXPRESSED IN RESOLUTION NUMBER RES DASH 16 DASH 0 0 1 7 AND RES DASH 19 DASH 0 1 73. THANK YOU. THIS IS ALSO AN ACTION ITEM THAT WE'LL NEED A MOTION IN A SECOND BEFORE WE HAVE THE CITY STAFF PRESENT. UH, UH, ASK THE MEMBERS IF THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND AND THERE ON YOUR SCREEN. I CAN TAKE A VERBAL SECOND AT THIS TIME. SECOND. THANK YOU. IT'S NOT COMING UP. OKAY. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. UH, BEFORE WE TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, WE'LL HAVE, UM, PRESENTATION BY STAFF. GREAT. THANK YOU. UM, CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU CHAIR ON YOUR NEW ROLE. SO MY NAME IS NADER KABOOSH. I AM THE BUDGET MANAGER, BUDGET MANAGEMENT OFFICER IN THE BUDGET OFFICE. AND I'M ALSO HERE WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS, UH, DEPARTMENT TO GIVE A OVERVIEW OF THE FY 27 PROPOSED BUDGET THAT HAS THE MEASURE A USES OUTLINED AS PART OF IT. SO AS PART OF THIS ITEM AS MENTIONED BY THE CLERK, THERE IS A VOTE TO JUST ALIGN THAT THE COMMITTEE IS CONFIRMING THAT THE USES ARE IN WITHIN THE MEASURE A'S INTENT. ALRIGHT. AND JUST TO GIVE A OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY IN OUR BUDGET PROCESS. SO ON JULY 30TH, THE CITY MANAGER AND MAYOR RELEASED THE PROPOSED FY 27 BUDGET, ALONG WITH THE MAYOR'S RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY AND THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL. SINCE THEN, THE CITY COUNCIL AND BUDGET OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE HAVE BEEN MEETING EVERY TUESDAY WITH TO REVIEW SPECIFIC TOPICS ON THE BUDGET AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO THROUGH THE, UH, BUDGET ADOPTION DATE SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 8TH. ADDITIONALLY, COMMUNITY MEETINGS HAVE BEEN HELD TO DISCUSS THE, UH, PROPOSED BUDGET. AND WITH OUR LAST MEETING SCHEDULED TODAY AT THE LONG BEACH, UH, CITY COLLEGE, ALL THE FEEDBACK FROM THOSE COMMUNITY MEETINGS WILL BE PRESENTED BACK TO THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL VIA A MEMO AFTER THE BUDGET'S ADOPTED. IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES MADE TO THE MEASURE A PLAN, THOSE CHANGES STILL WILL BE BROUGHT BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE AT ITS NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING IN NOVEMBER FOR REVIEW, AS PART OF OUR ANNUAL BUDGET BOOK, THE CITY CITY'S MEASURE A HAS ITS OWN DEDICATED SECTION DISCUSSING, DISCUSSING ITS ANNUAL, ANNUAL USES WITHIN THE, UH, CITY'S BALLOT CHAPTER, ALONG WITH ATTACHMENTS THAT COVER THE DETAILED USES IN HISTORY USES OF MEASURE A. THESE ATTACHMENTS ARE ALSO POSTED AND ATTACHED TO THIS ITEM TODAY AND PRINTED OUT FOR YOUR PACKAGES STARTING WITH, UH, MEASURE A ATTACHMENT A, WHICH SUMMARIZES ALL THE SOURCES AND USES FOR THE MEASURE A PLAN IN FY 27, ALONG WITH THE DETAILED LIST OF INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS IN ATTACHMENT B, A HISTORY LIST OF INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS SINCE INCEPTION ON ATTACHMENT C AND ATTACHMENT D IS A OUT YEAR PLAN, WHICH ACTUALLY SHOWS ALL THE SPEND OF MEASURE A SINCE INCEPTION IN FY 17. SO IT GIVES A, A HISTORY LOOK BACK. AND BEFORE WE JUMP INTO 27, WE DID WANT TO JUST GIVE YOU A QUICK LOOK AT THE PERFORMANCE OF MEASURE A IN FY 26, WHICH IS THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR WE ARE IN TODAY. THE FISCAL YEAR WAS ADOPTED WITH A PROJECTED 66.7 MILLION OF MEASURE A REVENUES TO BE, UM, GENERATED. OUR CURRENT PROJECTION SHOWS, UH, 67 MILLION TO BE GENERATED. SO IT'S PERFORMING ME PRETTY WELL AND JUST SLIGHTLY ABOVE OUR ORIGINAL PROJECTIONS. AND THAT IS, UH, MAINLY PUSHED THROUGH, UH, SERVICE STATIONS, RESTAURANTS AND HOTELS, UM, GENERATION. THE FY 26 PLAN ALSO HAS A, UH, CONTINGENCY RESERVE, SO THAT RESERVES ABOUT 2.2 MILLION IN CASE THERE'S ANY, UH, CRITICAL NEEDS AND THAT WILL HOLD IF PROJECTIONS HOLD TILL THE END OF THE YEAR. FOR REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION FOR CITY HIGH PRIORITY PROJECTS [00:15:07] TO FY 27 REVENUE PROJECTIONS ARE PROJECTED TO STAY STEADY, SO WE'RE PROJECTING A 3% GROWTH FROM OUR FY 26 PERFORMANCE AT 69 MILLION, WHICH WILL BE COVERED, UH, WHICH WILL COVER 60.7 MILLION OF STRUCTURAL USES ALONG WITH 8.3 MILLION OF ONE-TIME USES. ADDITIONALLY, THE FY 27 PLAN, UM, HAS A 57 POINT, UH, 57 MEASURE A BOND THAT IS PLANNED FOR THIS, UH, ROUND. THIS IS 57 OF NEW BOND PROJECTS TO BE PLANNED ON. THIS SLIDE SHOWS A HIGH LEVEL, UH, BREAKDOWN OF THE MEASURE A REVENUE BY CATEGORY, WHICH WE'LL GO OVER THROUGH THE NEXT FEW SLIDES. RIGHT, AND AS PART OF THE MEASURE A DISCUSSION, I THINK IT'S WORTH SHARING A STATUS UPDATE ON THE GENERAL FUND PROJECTION, WHICH SHOWED A $58.2 MILLION DEFICIT, WHICH IS PROJECTED TO BE BOUNCED THROUGH NECESSARY DECISIONS CURRENTLY UNDER DECI DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL. WITH ALL THE DISCUSSIONS UNDERWAY, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE CITY'S MEASURE A REVENUE IS NOT REVIEWED AS PART OF THE OVERALL GENERAL FUND BALANCING AND IS TRACKED SEPARATELY FOR THE INTENDED PURPOSES APPROVED BY THE VOTERS. SO AS WE SEE REDUCTION CITYWIDE, THE MEASURE A PLAN IS NOT BEING REDUCED. RATHER IT'S A RESOURCE FOR THESE CRITICAL AREAS IN PUBLIC SAFETY AND INFRASTRUCTURE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. OUR STRUCTURAL USES TOTAL 50.2 MILLION IN FY 27 LISTED ON THE SCREEN, WHICH STRUCTURAL USES ARE CONTINUED USES. SO A MAJORITY IS THESE ITEMS HAVE BEEN PRIOR APPROVED AND CONTINUING MOVING FORWARD. AND THEN IN THE NEXT COUPLE SLIDES I'LL HIGHLIGHT THE CHANGES TO THE MEASURE A PLAN FOR STRUCTURAL PUBLIC SAFETY USES IN FY 27. IN FY 27, MEASURE A WILL PLAN TO FULLY FUND THE STRUCTURAL OPERATIONS OF ENGINE 17. MEASURE A SUPPORTED ENG N 17 ON A ONE-TIME BASIS FROM FY 20 TO 22, AND THEN PROVIDED 1.5 MILLION STRUCTURAL SUPPORT IN FY 23 TO SUPPORT ITS OPERATIONS ALONG WITH A SAFER GRANT. THE GRANT WAS SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE AND HAS EXPIRED AND MEASURE A WAS PLANNED TO COVER THE FULL OPERATIONS IN FY 27. IN THIS PLAN, YOU SEE THAT IT IS NOW COVERING THE FULL OPERATIONS WITH ADDITIONAL 2.2 MILLION SCHEDULED FOR THIS PROPOSED BUDGET. IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, MEASURE A WILL SUPPORT THE AD OF TWO ADMIN ANALYST THREES TO SUPPORT THE REALTIME CRIME CENTER, WHICH PROVIDES REALTIME SITUATIONAL AWARENESS, DATA ANALYSIS, AND TECHNOLO TECHNOLOGICAL SUPPORT TO OFFICERS IN THE FIELD FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AS PART OF THE UH, FY 27 REDUCTION PLAN, THE JAIL TRANSPORT UNIT IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS ACTUALLY SCHEDULED TO BE ELIMINATED, WHICH WOULD'VE REQUIRED PATROL OFFICERS TO ASSUME PRISONERS TRANSPORTS RESPONSIBILITIES AND PULLING THEM AWAY FROM ACTIVE PATROL. MEASURE A FUNDS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET TO MAINTAIN THE FOUR SPECIAL SERVICE OFFICERS UNIT AND AVOID THAT DISRUPTION IN THE PATROL UNITS. LASTLY, MEASURE A CURRENTLY FUNDS TWO PUBLIC SAFETY DISPATCHERS POSITIONS, WHICH BROUGHT THE, UH, CALL CENTER BACK TO ITS PRE PANDEMIC LEVELS. AS PART OF THE BUDGET, TWO PUBLIC DISPATCHERS WERE IDENTIFIED TO BE ELIMINATED, BUT WERE PRESERVED USING MEASURE A FUNDS BRING THE TOTAL TO FOUR PUBLIC DISPATCHERS SUPPORTED BY MEASURE A IN ADDITIONAL TO, UH, NEW STRUCTURAL USES. THIS SLIDE COVERS A FEW REALLOCATIONS OF MEASURE A PROPOSED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THIS MEANS THAT THE APPROVED MEASURE A USES WERE JUST REALLOCATED TO OTHER USES WITHIN THE PLAN. STARTING WITH 164,973 REALLOCATED FROM THE ELIMINATION OF THE JAIL PUBLIC HEALTH PROFESSIONAL POSITION TO OFFSET, UH, A PORTION OF THE POLICE SERGEANT POSITION DEDICATED TO THE MENTAL EVALUATION TEAM, $230,370 WERE SHIFTED FROM THE BASIC ACADEMY STAFF OFFICER TO AN OFFICER POSITION IN THE ADVANCED OFFICER TRAINING, UH, CA CATER FOR THE TRAINING TACTICAL SUPPORT TEAM. AND LASTLY, 600,000, WHICH SUPPORTED THREE OF 11 MEASURE A SUPPORT NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY BIKE TEAMS ARE BEING REALLOCATED TO ESTABLISH A STRUCTURAL HIGH CRIME FOCUS TEAM TARGETED FOR KEY ENFORCEMENT AREAS. [00:20:05] AS TO ONE-TIME PUBLIC SAFETY USES MEASURE A WILL PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE ANTICIPATED POLICE ACADEMY CLASS 1 0 1, WHICH AIMS TO BE A CLASS OF THE SIZE OF 70 RECRUITS. AND THE TIMING OF IT GETS THE RECRUIT GRADUATES FULLY DEPLOYED BEFORE THE, UH, 2028 OLYMPIC GAMES BEGIN. WITHOUT THIS MEASURE A ALLOCATION, THIS ACADEMY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO MOVE FORWARD. AS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE SUPPORT, MEASURE A'S PLAN TO SUPPORT 1.8 MILLION TOWARDS AN UPGRADING OBSOLETE CAMERAS. THIS OBSOLETE, THIS ALLOCATION IS GONNA BE THE FIFTH YEAR OF ALLOCATION TOWARDS THE PLAN SUPPORTED BY MEASURE A. MEASURE A IS ALSO ANTICIPATED TO COVER THE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT FOR INFRASTRUCTURE BONDS IN THE AMOUNT OF 9.7 MILLION, WHICH AS A REMINDER SUPPORTED A 2023 BOND THAT RAISED 2060 0.25 MILLION AND NOW IS SUPPORTING A $93.9 MILLION, UH, BOND ANTICIPATED TO BE ISSUED AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, 2026. AND AS A REMINDER, THAT SUPPORTED THE FY 25 INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN THAT ADDED $65.5 MILLION OF PROJECTS. IT SUPPORTED 22 MILLION TOWARDS THE FIRE STATION NINE PERMANENT SITE, AND IS ALSO SUPPORTING THE 6.4 MILLION ALLOCATION TO IMPROVE THE POLICE ACADEMY IMPROVEMENTS PHASE TWO PROJECT, WHICH IS THAT OBSTACLE COURSE. OH, SORRY, I SKIPPED ONE LAST PART TO GO BACK. OKAY. LASTLY, IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN, WHICH WE'LL GO OVER IN DETAILS BY OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT LATER IN THIS PRESENTATION IS THE FY 27 THIRD INFRASTRUCTURE BOND, WHICH IS 57.13 MILLION OF NEW PROJECTS TO BE PROGRAMMED IN THE FISCAL YEAR. THAT BOND IS ANTICIPATED TO BE SOLD IN EITHER 2029 OR 2030 WITH ITS FIRST DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT TO FOLLOW ONE YEAR LATER. OTHER USES OF MEASURE A IN THE FY 27 PLAN INCLUDES A CRITICAL NEEDS RESERVE OF 37,000 JUST FOR ANY UNFORESEEN PRIORITY NEEDS THAT MAY COME UP WITHIN THE YEAR. ADMINISTRATION SUPPORT. THAT IS STRUCTURAL SUPPORT THAT HAS BEEN IN PART OF THE PLAN SINCE ITS ESTABLISHMENT OF 208,000. AND ALSO A CONTRIBUTION TO THE MEASURE B STABILIZATION FUND, WHICH IS AUTOMATIC DEPOSITS OF 1% OF THE GENERAL, UH, GENERAL TAX THAT IS GENERATED, WHICH IS SCHEDULED TO BE ABOUT 690,000 FROM MEASURE A THIS YEAR. GREAT. SO TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE, UH, FUTURE OUTLOOK OF MEASURE A, THE FORECAST ASSUMES A STEADY GROWTH STILL OF ABOUT 3% PER YEAR AND MEASURE A RETURNS TO ITS FULL PERCENT, 1% IN THE FY 28, WHICH WILL PROVIDE A SIGNIFICANT ON ALLOCATED FUNDS TO BE PROGRAMMED. THE DETAILS OF ALL THE OUT YEARS IN THE HISTORY IS OUTLINED IN THE ATTACHMENT D POSTED IN THE BUDGET BOOK AND IS PART OF THIS PACKAGE AND IS GOING TO BE BROUGHT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO BE PROGRAMMED AND APPROVED IN THE BUDGET. SO AT THIS POINT, I WILL HAND IT OVER TO JONATHAN BOLAND TO WALK OVER THE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE PORTION OF HOW MEASURE A IS GONNA BE USED IN 27. THANK YOU NADER, AND GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR. CONGRATULATIONS, UH, AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY NAME IS JONATHAN BOLEN, I'M THE BUSINESS OPERATIONS BUREAU MANAGER FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS. UH, JOINING ME THIS AFTERNOON IS OUR CAPITAL BUDGET OFFICER ANNA DENDA AND CHARLENE ENG SUKO, OUR ACTING PROJECT MANAGEMENT BUREAU MANAGER. UH, AND WE'LL GET STARTED. SO OUTLINED ON THIS SLIDE ARE THE FY 27 PROPOSED MEASURE A INFRASTRUCTURE BUDGET FOR THE MOBILITY AND SAFETY CIP PROGRAM, WHICH TOTALS $37 MILLION AS WELL AS OUR PUBLIC FACILITY CIP PROGRAM, WHICH TOTALS $6.5 MILLION. THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS ARE OUTLINED ON THIS SLIDE. PLEASE NOTE THAT THESE PROJECTS AND FUNDING THAT WE'LL BE REVIEWING ARE IN LINE WITH THE PLANNED YEAR FIVE OF ELEVATE 28, WHICH IS THE FINAL YEAR OF ELEVATE 28. OUTLINED ON THIS SLIDE ARE THE FY 27 PROPOSED MEASURE A INFRASTRUCTURE BUDGET FOR THE PARK IMPROVEMENT CIP PROGRAM, WHICH TOTALS $12 MILLION, AS WELL AS THE PROPOSED FUNDING FOR THE UTILITIES PROGRAM, WHICH TOTALS 1.3 MILLION FOR PUMP STATION AND STORM DRAIN IMPROVEMENTS. THESE INVESTMENTS IN MEASURE A, UH, FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND FY 27 TOTAL $57 MILLION OF MEASURE A FUNDING. UH, TO REITERATE, THESE INVESTMENTS ARE IN LINE WITH ELEVATE 28 AND YEAR FIVE OF THE FUNDING OUTLINED IN THAT PLAN. WITH THE FY 27 PROPOSED BUDGET FACTORED IN MEASURE A WILL HAVE CONTRIBUTED OVER $469 MILLION OF FUNDING TOWARDS THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE SINCE 2017. THE SPECIFIC ALLOCATIONS FOR EACH CIP PROGRAM ARE OUTLINED ON THIS [00:25:01] SLIDE AND SHOWN HERE IS THE FY 23 TO 27 ELEVATE 28 INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT PLAN MAP SHOWCASING THE HISTORIC INVESTMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF LONG BEACH AS PART OF THE F FY 20 SEVENS BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. PUBLIC WORK STAFF HAVE CONDUCTED A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF ELEVATE 28 AND AN ANNUAL PLAN UPDATE INCLUDES ALL GRANT AWARDS AND ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT HAVE BEEN PLANNED AND RECEIVED FOR ELEVATE 28. SINCE THE PLAN WAS LAST UPDATED A YEAR AGO, THIS EQUATES TO AN OVERALL INCREASE TO THE PLAN TOTALING AN ADDITIONAL $158 MILLION OF FUNDING, INCLUDING $124 MILLION FROM NEW FUNDING RECEIVED FOR ELEVATE 28 PROJECTS, INCLUDING FY 27 PROPOSED CIP FUNDING FROM OTHER SOURCES, AND 27.7 MILLION FROM NEW PROJECTS BEING ADDED TO A, TO THE PLAN FOR A REVISED ELEVATE 28 PLAN TOTAL OF $1.25 BILLION OVER THE COURSE OF THE FIVE YEARS. ADDITIONALLY, A REVISED ELEVATE 28 PROJECT REPORT OUTLINING EACH ELEVATE 28 PROJECT, UPDATING FUNDING INFORMATION PROJECT PHASE AND ADDITIONAL FUNDING IDENTIFICATION HAS BEEN DEVELOPED. THE FOUR NEW ELEVATE 28 PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING ADDED TO THE PLAN ARE OUTLINED ON THIS SCREEN. THE PROJECTS ARE OUTLINED HERE WITH THE CURRENT FUNDING IDENTIFIED THAT WILL BE ADDED TO THE PLAN. THESE NEW PROJECTS DO NOT INCLUDE ANY MEASURE A FUNDING WITHIN ELEVATE 28. HOWEVER, I DO WANNA MENTION EL DORADO BRANCH LIBRARY IS A MEASURE A FUNDED PROJECT FROM PRE ELEVATE 28, WHICH IS NOW BEING FULLY FUNDED WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM THE STATE AB 32 FUNDING SOURCE IN FY 27. THIS SLIDE OUTLINES THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE EXISTING PLAN AND THE UPDATED PLAN IN FY 27, CULMINATING IN THAT $158 MILLION NET INCREASE TO THE OVERALL PLAN FOR, AGAIN, A REVISED ELEVATE 28 TOTAL OF $1.25 BILLION. THE NEXT FEW SLIDES OUTLINE THE REVISED ELEVATE 28 PLAN BROKEN DOWN BY INVESTMENT CATEGORY. THESE SLIDES INCLUDE THE REVISED AND UPDATED ELEVATE 28 PLAN FUNDING AS WELL AS THE CURRENT STAGE OF EACH PROJECT AND THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING IDENTIFIED FOR EACH PROJECT IF APPLICABLE. THE 2028 OLYMPIC LEGACY CATEGORY INCLUDES 38 MILLION IN MEASURE A FUNDING, 222 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR A TOTAL OF 260 MILLION OF PLANNED FUNDING. THE COMMUNITY AND CULTURAL CATEGORY INCLUDES 16 MILLION IN MEASURE A FUNDING 3.6 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR A TOTAL OF NEARLY 20 MILLION IN PLAN FUNDING. THE GOLD MEDAL PARK REFRESH CATEGORY INCLUDES $21 MILLION OF MEASURE A FUNDING $85 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR A TOTAL OF $106 MILLION OF PLANNED FUNDING. THE MOBILITY AND SAFETY CATEGORY ARE LARGEST, INCLUDES $99 MILLION IN MEASURE A FUNDING, $456 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL TRANSPORTATION FUNDING FOR A TOTAL OF 555 MILLION OF PLANNED FUNDING. THE PARK IMPROVEMENT CATEGORY INCLUDES $27 MILLION IN MEASURE A FUNDING, $32 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR A TOTAL OF 59 MILLION IN PLANNED FUNDING. OUR PUBLIC FACILITY CATEGORY INCLUDES $47 MILLION IN MEASURE, A 41 AND A HALF MILLION IN ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR A TOTAL OF NEARLY 89 MILLION IN PLAN FUNDING. AND LASTLY, OUR RIGHT OF WAY WATER QUALITY AND CLIMATE ACTION PLAN CATEGORY INCLUDES $46 MILLION IN MEASURE A FUNDING 93 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR A TOTAL OF NEARLY $140 MILLION. THERE'S ALSO A MEASURE, A CRITICAL RESERVE AND FEDERAL GRANT MATCH RESERVE THAT CONSISTS OF NEARLY $10 MILLION OF MEASURE A FUNDING. THIS SLIDE OUTLINES THE REVISED ELEVATE 28 PLAN THAT WE JUST REVIEWED, TOTALING $313 MILLION IN MEASURE A FUNDING OF WHICH 57 MILLION IS PROPOSED FOR FY 27 AS PREVIOUSLY REVIEWED. 934 AND A HALF MILLION OF ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR A GRAND TOTAL OF THAT $1.25 BILLION, UH, IN PLANNED FUNDING FROM FY 23 TO 27. WE ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC TO UTILIZE OUR ELEVATE 28 WEBSITE, WHICH IS UPDATED TO REFLECT, UH, THESE ANNUAL UPDATES OF WHICH WE JUST DISCUSSED. THIS WEBSITE INCLUDES UNIQUE PROJECT INFORMATION PAGES FOR EACH PROJECT. THESE PROJECT PAGES PROVIDE DETAILS SUCH AS SCOPE, BUDGET, LOCATION, TARGET, CONSTRUCTION, START AND COMPLETION DATES, AMOUNT OF FUNDING CURRENTLY SECURED, AND THE CURRENT PHASE OF EACH PROJECT. INFORMATION IS UPDATED EACH QUARTER. ADDITIONALLY, THE WEBSITE CONTAINS A POWER BI REPORTING FUNCTION, WHICH DOES ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO EASILY SORT THROUGH EACH PROJECT AND CATEGORY SHOWN HERE IS THAT POWER BI REPORT. AND LASTLY, I WANTED TO PROVIDE A BRIEF UPDATE, UH, TO OUR CURRENT FIVE-YEAR PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PLAN. UH, TO DATE, 101 [00:30:01] MILES OF ARTERIAL STREETS 193 MILES OF RESIDENTIAL STREETS, 14 MILES OF ALLEYS AND 418 MILES OF SLURRY SEAL HAVE BEEN COMPLETED. AND THAT'S JUST FROM THE ELEVATE 28 5 YEAR PLAN OUTLINED IN YELLOW ON THIS MAP ARE THE REMAINING STREETS TO BE COMPLETED BY 2028. THE REMAINING SEGMENTS ARE OUTLINED IN RED AND ARE PLANNED TO BE MOVED TO THE SUBSEQUENT FY 28 TO FY 32 PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PLAN. THESE RED SEGMENTS TOTAL 25 MILES OF ARTERIAL STREETS AND 10 MILES OF A OF SLURRY SEAL. ESSENTIALLY OVER 95% OF THE FIVE-YEAR PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PLAN OUTLINED AND ELEVATE 28 WILL BE COMPLETED BY 2028. WHILE THE FY 28 TO 32 PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PLAN DRAFT WAS RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC AS PART OF THE FY 27 PROPOSED BUDGET, THE FINAL FY 28 TO 32 INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT PLAN WILL BE BROUGHT TO CITY COUNCIL AS PART OF THE FY 28 PROPOSED BUDGET. PUBLIC WORKS IS LOOKING FORWARD TO PROVIDING A FULL INFRASTRUCTURE UPDATE, INCLUDING AN OVERVIEW OF RECENTLY COMPLETED PROJECTS ELEVATE 28 PROJECTS, AND A LOOK AHEAD AT THE RENEW 32 PAYMENT MANAGEMENT PLAN AT THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING. AND THIS IS, UH, THIS IS WHAT THE RENEW 32, FY 28 TO 32, UH, PMP UH, DRAFT CURRENTLY LOOKS LIKE. AND I THINK WITH THAT WE HAVE CONCLUDED. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE INFORMATIVE PRESENTATION. UH, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MEMBERS, UH, TO ASK QUESTIONS OF DISCUSSION, UH, OPEN THE FLOOR. ANY ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED TO THIS BE WE'LL GO TO VICE CHAIR POWER. HELLO. THANK YOU JONATHAN. LOT OF DATA THERE, . UM, BUT A GREAT, UH, SUMMARY. UM, MY FIRST QUESTION IS ON PAGE 14, THE MEASURE B STABILIZATION FUND OF THE 690,000, AND I DON'T THINK THAT INCLUDES, UM, ANY STABILIZATION ALLOCATION FOR THE BOND MEASURES. DOES IT? IT'S ONLY FOR THE TAX REVENUES, IS THAT, AM I CORRECT WITH THAT? OH, YES. IT'S, IT, IT IS FOR THE, UH, TAX MEASURES. SO WHEN, WHEN MEASURE A PASSED IN 2016, THIS WAS A COMPANION BALLOT THAT ACTUALLY WAS APPROVED WITH IT. SO IT ESTABLISHED A 1% AUTOMATIC DEPOSIT OF ALL NEW TAX REVENUE GENERATED FOR NEW TAXES APPROVED BY VOTERS AFTER 2016. SO OF THAT, IT IS TAX MEASURES REVENUES FROM MEASURE A, MEASURE US MEASURE MA, AND RECENTLY YOU PASSED, UH, MEASURE LB, SO A BOND MEASURE WOULD NOT BE PART OF THAT ALLOCATION. OKAY. AND THEN I THINK I'VE ASKED THE SAME QUESTION BEFORE, BUT IN THE MEASURE A FUTURE OUTLOOK FOR FY 29, UM, I, THAT'S A THREE PERCENT-ISH INCREASE IN THAT REVENUE. UM, 94.8 TO 97.7, AND YES, JUST ABOVE 3%. AND THE REASON FOR THE BIG JUMP IS THE 1% BACK TO THE TAX RATE. RIGHT. IT'S CURRENTLY, UH, COLLECTING AT A 0.75% DUE TO, UH, COUNTY MEASURE H, WHICH WAS PASSED BEFORE THE VOTERS EXTENDED MEASURE A IN, UH, INDEFINITELY IN 2020. RIGHT. BUT THIS IS NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT ANY, UM, ANY ADDITIONAL, UM, PROJECTED TAX REVENUE THAT MAY THAT MAY COME IN THROUGH, UM, OLYMPICS ACTIVITY. NO, NOT AS OF YET. SO ANY ADDITIONAL ACTIVITIES FROM OLYMPICS OR FOR SAY THE, UH, WORLD CUP THAT JUST CAME WOULD JUST BE EXPERIENCED ON MORE OF A ONE-TIME BASIS AND THEN LOOKED AT MORE ON THE LONG RUN TO SEE WHAT OF THAT INCREASE COULD HAVE BEEN MORE OF A STRUCTURAL INCREASE ALONG WITH. SO THOSE WOULD CARRY FORWARD THEN TO FY 29 AS ADDITIONAL ADDITIONAL REVENUES THEN? YEAH, SO IN FY 28 WHEN WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE, OR FY 30, I'M SORRY. CORRECT. SO FY 28 WOULD BE THE START OF THE OLYMPICS IN AUGUST, 2028. AND IF, OR YEAH. YEAH. SO IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL REVENUE THAT IS ACTUALLY GENERATED FROM THE OLYMPICS, IT WOULD BE RECOGNIZED ON A ONE-TIME BASIS. SO ANYTHING PROJECTED BEYOND OUR, UM, ANTICIPATED FORECAST WOULD GENERATE A ANNUAL SURPLUS THAT YEAR THAT COULD BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL FOR A PROPOSED USE. AND WE DO HAVE DIRECTOR RIPER HERE TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE INSIGHT INTO THAT CHAIR. HOWARD, JUST TO ROUND OUT THE FORECASTING PICTURE FOR MEASURE A SALES TAX, UM, NOT ONLY, UH, OR IN ADDITION TO THERE NOT BEING AN ASSUMED BUMP FOR OLYMPIC, UH, FOR, UH, 2028 GAMES ACTIVITY LIKE YOU JUST ASKED ABOUT, THERE'S ALSO NOT IN THE FORECAST AN ASSUMED SLUMP DUE TO POSSIBLE RECESSION, WORLDWIDE GLOBAL UNCERTAINTY [00:35:01] FROM THE, THE UNITED STATES, UM, VARIABLE TARIFF POLICY, HIGH OIL PRICES, UH, AND ALL THE OTHER ECONOMIC FACTORS THAT IT CAN AFFECT SALES TAX, WHICH ALAS, WE ARE SEEING THE EFFECTS OF RIGHT NOW, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NOT A RECESSION IN GENERAL FUND SALES TAX REVENUE, WHICH HAS SUBSTANTIALLY SLOWED. SO THE FORECAST IN IS A STEADY STATE FORECAST, WHICH DOESN'T ASSUME REALLY GOOD NEWS AND ALSO DOESN'T ASSUME REALLY BAD NEWS. IT'S, IT'S OUR 50% CONFIDENCE LEVEL, MIDDLE OF THE ROAD BEST GUESS PROJECTION OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU. WISE POLICY, CONSERVATIVE BUDGETING. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM? I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. I SEE, UH, STATION 11 LISTED, UH, IN THE PLAN. IS THAT A FEASIBILITY PLANNING AMOUNT? IT WAS RELATIVELY LOW COMPARED TO OTHER ONES, AND I DON'T RECALL WHAT SLIDE IT WAS ON. UM, AND I THINK, I THINK IT'S IN THE ELEVATE 28 SECTION. YES, I, I CAN RESPOND TO THAT QUESTION. UM, SO THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. SO FIRE STATION 11 AND SORRY, AND 13 ARE BOTH INCLUDED IN ELEVATE 28. UM, AT EARLY IN THE PLAN, THEY WERE BOTH INCLUDED AT AN EVEN $500,000 INVESTMENT EACH. UH, AS WE PREPARED THIS BUDGET AND WORKING WITH OUR PROJECT MANAGEMENT TEAM AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, WE MADE A, WE, WE REALLOCATED SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS. THEY'RE, THEY'RE BOTH BEING INVESTED IN FIRE STATION 11 IS RECEIVING 750,000 AND FIRE STATION 13 IS RECEIVING 250,000. BUT THOSE ARE, UH, ACTUAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE, TO THE BUILDING. IT'S NOT FOR FEASIBILITY STUDY OR DESIGN. IT'S, UH, IT'S TO BRING BOTH OF THOSE FIRE STATIONS AND INVEST IN BOTH OF THEM. OBVIOUSLY FIRE STATION 11, UM, HAS MORE OF THE NEED AND THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE MORE OF THE FUNDING. GREAT. AND THAT, AND THAT WORK WILL START THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR AFTER OCTOBER? YES. OKAY. AWESOME. UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR INCLUDING THE, UM, FOUR PAGE MEASURE A, UH, SECTION OF THE BUDGET. I KNOW WE, WE HAD QUESTIONS PREVIOUSLY, UH, AT OTHER MEETINGS, WHEN WERE WE GONNA SEE IT OR WHAT WAS IT? BUT I THINK IT WASN'T OUT, UH, AT OUR PREVIOUS MEETING. NOW IT IS. AND SO IT'S GREAT TO SEE THE BREAKDOWN OF $126 MILLION PLUS IN THERE. AND IT LOOKS LIKE HALF OF IT IS SALES TAX REVENUE AND HALF OF IT'S BOND RELATED REVENUE THAT GOT SPREAD OUT BETWEEN CAPITAL PROJECTS AND OPERATIONS. AND I THINK THE, IF IT'S CORRECT, THE BOND MONEY DOESN'T GO TOWARDS OPERATIONS, IT GOES TOWARDS CAPITAL OR PHYSICAL SITE IMPROVEMENTS, ALLEYS, BUILDINGS, STREETS. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. IT'S NOT LEGAL TO USE BOND PROCEEDS FOR OPERATING PURPOSES. IT HAS TO GO TO INFRASTRUCTURE. GREAT. THANK YOU. UM, AND IT'S GOOD, I WAS READING THE BUDGET AND WATCHING THE SLIDE DECK AND SO IT WAS GOOD TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT POSITIONS EXPLAINED IN MORE DETAIL, YOU KNOW, THE JAIL POSITIONS AND THE FIRE POSITIONS AND THE POLICE POSITIONS AND THE CAMERA. SO IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO LOOK AT JUST A TABLE OF NUMBERS. UH, AND THEN I THINK IT HELPED PRESENTATION, BRING IT, UH, ILLUMINATE. I ALSO APPRECIATE THE 10 YEAR LOOK BACK INCLUSION. I, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, VICE CHAIR HOWARD HAD DISCUSSED IN THE PAST OF, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'VE DONE SINCE WE STARTED. AND, AND IT'S GOOD TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WAS IT, WAS IT FOUR, 4 BILLION? NO, HALF A BILLION DOLLARS OR $4 BILLION, YOU HAVE ABOUT 500, 500, 500 MILLION. SO ALMOST HALF A BILLION DOLLARS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT OF, OF IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CITY IN OF VARIOUS CAPACITY. SO THAT, THAT WAS REALLY GREAT. I, I, UM, DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND I THINK THIS WILL HELP INFORM OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM DISCUSSION. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF HAS ANYTHING ELSE TO SHARE BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE. I VICE CHAIR HOWARD. I THOUGHT I, WHEN I WAS REVIEWING THESE, THE PAPERS THAT IN MY OFFICE BEFORE I CAME, I THOUGHT I SAW SOMETHING ABOUT FEDERAL MATCHING FUNDS AND NOW I CAN'T FIND IT IN HERE. AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT WAS. I CAN, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT. OKAY. OH, SORRY. NADER, UM, I, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT. THERE, THERE IS IN FY 27, UH, I THINK IT'S 2.2 MILLION, UH, TO FUND A FEDERAL INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT MATCH RESERVE. UM, AND THAT WAS IN, THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE ELEVATE 28 PLAN, UH, FUNDED IN FY 27 PARTIALLY. AND HOW WE WOULD USE THOSE FUNDS IS IF WE, IF AND WHEN WE RECEIVE FEDERAL DOLLARS, THERE ARE ALWAYS MATCH REQUIREMENTS OF DIFFERENT PERCENTAGES AND THAT THAT MATCH RESERVE IS TO, TO MATCH THOSE GRANT FUNDS. SO FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, IF WE GOT A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS GRANT AND THE MATCH IS 20%, THAT'S 20 MILLION. WE DON'T [00:40:01] WANT TO NECESSARILY LOSE $80 MILLION OF GRANTS FUNDS BECAUSE WE CAN'T MATCH A MILLION DOLLARS. AND SO, SO FAR WE ACTUALLY HAVE NOT NEEDED TO STRIKE ON THOSE FUNDS. UM, BUT WE DO HAVE MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE PROJECTS THAT ARE GRANT FUNDED AND FEDERALLY GRANT FUNDED, UM, THAT ARE GOING TO THE BIDDING PHASE. AND SO AS BIDS COME BACK, WE EVALUATE, UH, IF IT'S WITHIN THE BUDGET. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, WE'LL GO TO THE CITY CLERK TO CALL THE VOTE CHAIR. I'M JUST GONNA CALL PUBLIC COMMENT. UM, IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEM TWO, PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM AT THIS TIME. SEEING NONE, WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE VOTE MEMBER. AMY, I CAN TAKE A VERBAL AYE NOTED. MOTION IS CARRIED. ALL RIGHT. ALMOST THROUGH THE MEETING AGENDA, WE HAVE, UH, ITEM THREE COMING UP HERE AND, UM, WE'LL HAVE THE CITY CLERK READ IT OUT. ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A RECOMMENDATION [3. 26-55803 Recommendation to receive, review, discuss, and, if appropriate, amend and approve the transmittal of the Ad Hoc Committee's FY 27 Proposed Budget recommendation letter to Mayor and City Council.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] TO RECEIVE REVIEW, DISCUSS, AND IF APPROPRIATE, AMEND AND APPROVE THE TRANSMITTAL OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE'S FY 27 PROPOSED BUDGET RECOMMENDATION LETTER TO MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS IS ALSO AN ACTION ITEM THAT WE'LL DO A, WE'LL NEED TO DO A DO A MOTION A SECOND BEFORE WE HAVE DISCUSSION. UM, I SEE A MOTION BY VICE CHAIR HOWARD. I THINK I ATTEMPTED SECOND BY, YEAH, I SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. MOVED. AND SECOND, UH, WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION ITEM, ITEM PRESENTED. THERE IS A DRAFT, UH, LETTER THAT, UH, VICE CHAIR HOWARD AND I PUT TOGETHER AS PART OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE FROM A FEW MONTHS BACK. UM, BUT WE UPDATED IT POST OR ABOUT, I GUESS TWO WEEKS AGO BEFORE IN TIME FOR THE AGENDA. UH, AND THAT'S PRESENTED BEFORE. UM, THE MEMBERS MAYBE WHILE WE'RE TAKING A LOOK AT THAT, IT ALSO WAS SHARED WITH STAFF AHEAD OF TIME. UH, DID YOU IDENTIFY ANY ERRORS OR CORRECTIONS OR SUGGESTED AMENDMENTS? NO. AND I GUESS, UM, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS. MAYBE YOU CAN SHARE WHAT IS THE EXPECTATION OF THIS LETTER IS, I THINK IT WAS REQUIRED TO GO AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS TO THE CITY COUNCIL. IS THAT OR CITY OFFICE? CITY MANAGER AND THEN CITY COUNCIL. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS? SURE. UM, IT'S NOT REQUIRED. IT'S, IT'S OPTIONAL FOR THE COMMITTEE TO DO THAT. I THINK LAST YEAR WAS THE FIRST YEAR THAT THE COMMITTEE CHOSE TO PER PREPARE A LETTER, UM, YES, WHICH DOES GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT BEFORE THAT, IT STOPS BY THE CITY MANAGER TO WHICH HE CAN PROVIDE, UM, HIS THOUGHTS AND LAYER THAT ON TOP TO PROVIDE TO THE CITY COUNCIL. AND THAT'S A MEMO THAT IS PUBLICIZED ONLINE AND, AND KIND OF LIVES THERE, UM, FOREVER. SO IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO JUST PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON, ON THE CAC AND MEASURE A AND EVERYTHING IN YOUR PURVIEW. GREAT, THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION FROM MEMBERS ON THE DRAFT LETTER OR ANY AMENDMENTS OR CHANGES? SUGGESTED VICE CHAIR HOWARD? UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT IT WAS A PLEASURE, UM, WORKING WITH OUR, OUR NEW CHAIR, UM, ON THIS LETTER. AND, UM, I THINK HE, HE DID THE INITIAL DRAFT AND SUMMARIZED THINGS REALLY NICELY AND, UH, WE DID COLLABORATE, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, KUDOS TO YOU CHAIR FOR A GREAT JOB ON THAT. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT, EMMY. ALRIGHT. UH, JUST, IS THIS MEETING RECORDED? YES. OKAY. SOME PEOPLE WHO MAY BE, UH, WATCHING VIRTUALLY, UM, WELL MAYBE WE'LL JUST TALK THROUGH THE, UH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS ON A HIGH LEVEL SO FOLKS ARE AWARE. UM, THE LETTER HAS A KIND OF INTRO SUMMARY OF THE, UH, THE COMMITTEE, UM, TALKS ABOUT WHAT MEASURE A FUNDS ARE USED FOR, UH, MAKES SEVERAL FIVE RECOMMENDATIONS. UH, ONE IS TO INCREASE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UM, FINDING OPPORTUNITIES TO ENGAGE WITH RESIDENTS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT MEASURE A AND THE SPENDING PROCESS. UM, PART OF I THINK THE, UM, SOME OF OUR DISCUSSION WAS AROUND SOME OF THE MISINFORMATION AND, UH, FALSE INFORMATION THAT'S CIRCULATED ONLINE AND THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT, UM, REALLY IS INACCURATE AND I THINK UNDERMINES, UH, PUBLIC TRUST IN GOVERNMENT AND IS THINKING ABOUT HOW CAN WE DO A BETTER JOB OF, UH, BEING PROACTIVE AS A CITY OR HAVING MATERIALS THAT PEOPLE CAN [00:45:01] POINT TO AND SAY, WELL, DID YOU READ THE 2028 FACT SHEET? DID YOU WATCH THE YOUTUBE VIDEO? DID YOU KNOW THESE MEETINGS ARE ONLINE AND OR THERE'S A POWER BI SCORE, YOU KNOW, UH, WEBSITE. BUT WE, WE, WE WERE RECOMMENDING, UH, INCREASED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UM, AT, YOU KNOW, AT THE DISCRETION OF THE, THE CITY. UH, AND UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S LIMITED, UH, CITY RESOURCES FOR THAT, UH, RECOMMENDING, UH, ANNUAL MEASURE A TOWN HALL, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE ONLINE, IT COULD BE IN PERSON, IT COULD BE THE MAYOR, IT COULD BE THE CITY MANAGER, HOWEVER THAT, THAT HAPPENS. BUT IT JUST HELPS, UH, I THINK, AGAIN, PUT, UH, CREDIBLE INFORMATION OUT. UH, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, FIRE DEPARTMENT, PUBLIC WORKS, WHO ARE ALL HAVE KEY ROLES, UH, IN MEASURE A, ARE ABLE TO PRESENT AND SHARE. UM, I MEAN, MUCH OF THE INFORMATION IS ALREADY SHARED AND SHARED IN GREAT DETAIL AT, AT THESE MEETINGS, BUT I KNOW THE GENERAL PUBLIC, UM, NOT MANY HAVE ATTENDED TODAY OR EVER TO A COMMITTEE MEETING, BUT AT LEAST TO CONTINUE TO, TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE WHO, WHO MAY HAVE AN INTEREST. UM, WE DID TALK ABOUT AUDITS, UM, TO THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND, AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A PAST, UH, I THINK CITY AUDIT, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S, IT'S A, IS IT AN ANNUAL PROCESS THAT THERE'S AN ANNUAL AUDIT OF THE FUNDS? I DON'T BELIEVE SO. I BELIEVE, UH, KEVIN REER COULD PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ON IT, BUT THE, UH, THE AUDITOR DID PERFORM A PERFORMANCE AUDIT ON MEASURE A LAST YEAR, WHICH WAS NOT AN ANNUAL, BUT RATHER JUST ONE MORE OF A PROJECT ORIENTED LOOK AT MEASURE A AND HOW IT'S DONE. GREAT, KEVIN. SO PUTTING MY ACCOUNTING HAT ON THE ANNUAL AUDIT OF THE CITY ENCOMPASSES MEASURE A AND THE USES OF MEASURE A, IT'S A FINANCIAL AUDIT. MM-HMM . DIFFERENT FROM THE PERFORMANCE AUDIT THAT MR. KAMUSH JUST DESCRIBED, THAT THE CITY AUDITOR DID, UM, LAST YEAR OR EARLY THIS YEAR, I GUESS. DOES, DOES THAT FINANCIAL AUDIT EVER GET PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION OR COMMITTEE? UH, IT'S, IT IS PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND POSTED ONLINE, AND IT'S NOT PRESENTED TO THE COMMITTEE BECAUSE BECAUSE MEASURE A IS SUCH A SMALL PORTION OF THE ENTIRE CITY BUDGET, IT DOESN'T COUNT AS A MAJOR FUND. AND SO THERE'S NOTHING EXPLICIT IN THE PUBLISHED ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT ABOUT MEASURE A. THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN POINT TO THAT SAYS, HERE ARE THE MEASURE A NUMBERS. AND TO ADD TO THAT AS WHAT DOES COME TO THIS COMMITTEE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, WHEN WE CLOSE OUT THE FISCAL YEAR, WE DO, UH, REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL CITYWIDE PERFORMANCE REPORT, WHICH INCLUDES A SMALL SECTION FOR MEASURE A, WHICH WE WILL BRING TO THIS COMMITTEE TO SHOW THE PERFORMANCE OF MEASURE A, OF WHERE THOSE DOLLARS WENT, HOW MUCH WAS SPENT ON WHICH PROJECT AND HOW MUCH WAS ACTUALLY GENERATED. SO ON THE PERFORMANCE SIDE, THAT WOULD BE COMING BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS VICE. SURE. HOWARD HAD A QUESTION. UM, SO, UM, IS THERE, IS THERE ACTUALLY A STATEMENT IN THE ANNUAL, UM, CITY AUDIT THAT SAYS, MEASURE A, A A PARAGRAPH THAT SAYS MEASURE A IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH EVERYTHING THAT IT SHOULD BE A PARAGRAPH OR SOMETHING? NO, THERE IS NOT. THERE'S NOT, IT'S NOT A MAJOR PROGRAM. OKAY. BECAUSE I THINKING IF THERE WERE THIS COMMITTEE DOES THAT, IT COULD, IT COULD, UH, IT COULD BE PUT ON THE MEASURE A WEBSITE, YOU KNOW, UH, IT COULD, SO THAT PEOPLE COULD SEE THAT IT IS BEING CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE OVERALL, UM, CITY AUDIT THAT MIGHT GIVE ANOTHER LAYER, ANOTHER LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, BEING LOOKED AT INDEPENDENTLY FROM US. OH, YOU KNOW, AND A HIGHER LEVEL STILL WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH, UH, CROW, LLP, THE INDEPENDENT FINANCIAL AUDITORS ABOUT THAT. I DUNNO. GREAT. THANK YOU. I JUST THOUGHT IF IT WAS EXISTING, IT COULD JUST BE PULLED OUT AND PUT ON THERE. GREAT. AND THE LAST THING I SAY ON THAT RECOMMENDATION, UM, IN, YOU KNOW, PROP 55 EDUCATION OVERSIGHT COMMITTEES FOR BOND MEASURES, PART OF THAT IS A ANNUAL INDEPENDENT AUDIT THAT'S PUBLICLY DISCLOSED. AND I, MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE MUNICIPAL CREATION OF THIS COMMITTEE WAS IN SOME WAY TRYING TO MIMIC THAT. UM, AND THAT'S ONE ELEMENT THAT WHEN PEOPLE ASK, ARE THE FUNDS BEING SPENT CORRECTLY? YES, THERE'S AN INDEPENDENT AUDIT THAT SAID NO FINDINGS. UH, SO IT'S, UH, TO ME THAT'S MY CONCEPTUAL, UM, ADDITION OF THAT RECOMMENDATION. IN ADDITION WITH VICE CHAIR HOWARD SHARED, UH, LAST TWO, THREE YEAR SPENDING RECONCILIATION REVIEW, UH, KIND OF, I KNOW I'M ENGINEER WORLD, THINK OF A LOOK BACK REPORT OF JUST HOW THINGS HAVE GONE. MAYBE THAT ALREADY HAPPENS AND I'M TOO NEW AND I HAVEN'T SEEN IT. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF BEING ABLE TO SAY, HEY, HERE'S A LITTLE SEMI ANNUAL UPDATE OF HOW [00:50:01] IT'S BEEN SPENT IN NEAR TERM SO PEOPLE CAN SEE THESE ARE HOW MANY BUILDINGS OR FIREFIGHTERS ARE FUNDED THROUGH IT TO HELP UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT A 10 YEAR, UH, LOOK BACK, BUT SOMETHING IN A SHORTER TERM THAT'S, UH, UH, CAN HELP TELL THE, TELL THE STORY. AND THEN THE LAST ONE, WE HAD, UH, UM, PUBLISHED AN INVENTORY AND AND CONDITION ASSESSMENT OF CITY OWNED BUILDINGS. UM, I GUESS IT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE STREET INDEX, UH, THAT'S ON THERE AND, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S MORE COMPREHENSIVE THAN WHAT'S IN OUR SCOPE, BUT, UM, I I WOULD IMAGINE FACILITIES THAT POTENTIALLY ARE ELIGIBLE OR RECEIVED, UH, MEASURE A FUNDING OR, OR SCHEDULE TO MEASURE, RECEIVE, MEASURE A FUNDING WAS, I, I THINK THE, THE CONCEPT, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY FEEDBACK OR IF PUBLIC WORKS ALREADY DOES THAT AND IT'S JUST IN A DIFFERENT, UH, DOCUMENT SOMEWHERE. YES. SO, UH, GREAT, GREAT QUESTION. UM, WE CURRENTLY DO HAVE A FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT. UH, WE HAVE ASSESSED ALL CITY OWNED FACILITIES IN THE CITY. UH, CURRENTLY WE ARE GOING THROUGH THAT DATA AND BRINGING UP THOSE ESTIMATES TO CURRENT, UH, CURRENT ESTIMATES. AS OF TODAY WITH INFLATION FACTORED IN, WE ARE ALSO INTERNALLY DEVELOPING A DASHBOARD, UH, TO REALLY SLICE AND DICE THIS DATA INTERNALLY. I THINK RELEASING THIS DATA TO THE PUBLIC IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DISCUSS FURTHER, BUT INTERNALLY WE, WE ARE WORKING ON REFRESHING THAT DATA. WE CURRENTLY DO HAVE, UM, REPORTING ON EVERY SINGLE FACILITY AND THE DEFICIENCIES FOUND, UH, AND THAT, THAT REPORT STUDY WAS DONE OVER 2021 AND 2022. UM, AND WE'VE, WE'VE DISCUSSED IN THIS COMMITTEE PREVIOUSLY, THE COST TO DO ANOTHER FULL ASSESSMENT IS SIGNIFICANT. UM, AND INSTEAD OF DOING A FULL ADDITIONAL ASSESSMENT, WE ARE JUST, UH, WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE DATA TO, TO BRING IT UP TO, UH, CURRENT STANDARDS AND, AND ESTIMATES AS WELL AS, UH, FACTORING IN DEGRADATION ESTIMATES AS WELL. SO SINCE 2021, IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, SEVEN YEARS, SIX YEARS, AND SO FACTORING IN A NATURAL DEGRADATION AS WELL AS INFLATING THE COST TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING. GREAT. AND THAT, IS THAT FORTHCOMING OR IS IT RECENTLY DONE? IT'S BEING, UH, DEVELOPED RIGHT NOW. OKAY. YOU, YOU HAVE ESTIMATED TIME AND WHEN IT, THIS FISCAL YEAR OR? YES, YES, WE ARE, WE'RE ACTUALLY, WE'RE, WE'RE EYEING TO USE THIS NEW DATA AND DASHBOARD FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEAR PLAN, UH, WHICH WE ARE DEVELOPING THIS FALL AND WINTER. OKAY. GREAT AI. OH YEAH. ALRIGHT. AM I SURE HOWARD, ANY, ANYTHING ELSE ON THE NUMBER FIVE? I KNOW THAT WAS, UH, ONE OF YOUR SUGGESTIONS AND ALRIGHT, SO IT'S TWO PAGES. WE HAVE IT, UH, AT THE DAN END, COSIGNED BY CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR. UM, A QUESTION I DID HAVE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE ADDRESSED IT PROPERLY IN THE FRONT TO MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, MUNICIPAL LEADERS, IS THERE, THERE, I DUNNO IF THERE'S ANOTHER, UM, METHOD OR STANDARD FORMAT THAT YOU USE THE, AS THE HEADER, THAT'S FINE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. SO NO, NO AMENDMENTS, NO CHANGES. EVERYBODY'S GOOD WITH IT. ON THE VERSION I'M LOOKING AT, IT LOOKS LIKE THE INFORMATION UNDER THE SIGNATURE LINE IS NOT FILLED OUT, SO THAT WOULD NEED TO BE UPDATED FROM THE VERSION AT, AT PRESENT BEFORE US. YES. UH, SAME THING WITH THE DATE IS AUGUST X, SO I FIGURE WE'LL, UH, WE CAN PUT TODAY'S DATE AND WE CAN ADD SIGNATORIES AND WE PUT IT ON LETTERHEAD AND I UN GREAT. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO COME BACK TO APPROVE A FINAL, WE'RE TRYING TO APPROVE THE CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE NOW AND THEN APPROVE IT TO BE SUBMITTED ONCE THOSE CHANGES ARE IMPLEMENTED WITHOUT RECONVENING THIS BOARD. CORRECT? CORRECT. YEAH, THAT WAS, THAT WAS MY HOPE AND ANTICIPATION THAT HAVING THE ADVANCED COPY AND LET PEOPLE MAKE EDITS, CHANGES, GETTING STAFF INPUT, THIS COULD BE A, A ONE AND DONE ITEM AND THEN WE JUST ADMINISTRATIVELY PUT THE DATE SIGNATORIES AND FORMAT IT. THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S GREAT. WE JUST WANNA BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THE PROPOSED, THE, THE INSTRUCTED CHANGES ARE. UM, AND THEN ABOUT OUR MOTION, UM, BECAUSE WE GAVE OURSELVES DIFFERENT PATHWAYS THE WAY THE AGENDA ITEM WAS WRITTEN NOW, SO WE'LL BE CLEAR WHAT WE'RE MOVING FOR, WHICH WILL BE TO AMEND AND THEN TRANSMIT THE MEMO, UM, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE APPROVED AMENDMENTS. [00:55:01] AND AS I CAN SEE NOW, WE TALK ABOUT THE DATE, THE INFORMATION UNDER THE SIGNATURE LINE. WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? I MEAN, WE, WE CAN ADD PAGE NUMBERS AT THE BOTTOM IN THE CENTER, UM, PUT IT ON, PUT IT ON SOME KIND OF LETTERHEAD AND THEN PUT IT ON LETTERHEAD. YEAH. DO WE HAVE A LETTERHEAD STANDARD FOR THE COMMITTEE? I FIGURE WHATEVER THE CITY TEMPLATE IS, I MEAN, ARE WE, IS THAT ALLOWABLE OR NOT? OR, OR IS I DON'T, I'M NOT IMMEDIATELY AWARE OF A LETTERHEAD THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO USE FOR THE COMMISSION IN THIS CONTEXT. YEAH, I THINK JUST SO I THINK IT'LL JUST GO ON ON REGULAR PAPER OR, OR LETTERHEAD OF THE COMMISSION'S DESIGN REGULAR PAPER, REGULAR PAPER'S FINE I GUESS. YEAH. GREAT. OKAY. , YOU DON'T WANNA SIGN LETTERHEAD CHAIR VICE? IT'LL SAY CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR ON BEHALF OF LIKE, JUST LIKE THIS DIGITAL. THAT'S OKAY. YEAH, I DO TOO. OKAY. YEAH, WE, WE WERE TALKING WE CAN DO DIGITAL SIGNATURES ALSO FINE. THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO TRY TO MEET IN PERSON AND SIGN PAPERS. UM, SO THE, YOUR SUGGESTED CHANGES, IS THE CITY CLERK CAPTURING THAT AS AMENDMENTS TO THE MOTION SO THAT IT GIVES APPROPRIATE UH, YES. FLEXIBILITY? YES. AND ALL THOSE ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES ARE APPROVED BY THE MOTION AND SECONDER, WHICH ARE VICE CHAIR HOWARD AND MEMBER AMY. CORRECT? CORRECT. YES, YES. YEAH. THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AS AMENDED AND THEN TRANSMIT. ALRIGHT, GREAT. ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED? NO, THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, WITH THAT, WE'LL WE'LL TAKE A FINAL VOTE ON THE ADOPTION OF THE, THE LETTER. GOOD NOTE FROM STAFF. I'M SO SORRY. ONE MORE TO PERHAPS REMOVE THE LANGUAGE DRAFT TUT ANNUAL LETTER FROM THE TOP OF THE PAGE AS WELL. OH YEAH, YEAH. THE DRAFT HEADER. YES. YES. WE SHOULD DEFINITELY TAKE THAT OFF. OKAY. YOU GUYS AGREEABLE IN NOT HAVING DRAFT HEADER. OKAY, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. LET'S TAKE A VOTE. BEFORE WE MOVE WITH THE VOTE, I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM THREE, PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM AT THIS TIME. SEEING NONE. THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEM THREE. OKAY. NOW WE'LL TAKE A VOTE. REMEMBER AMY, I CAN TAKE A VOTE. A VERBAL NOTED YOU IT WORKED. MOTION IS CARRIED AS AMENDED. ALRIGHT, THANKS EVERYBODY. GREAT. ONE LAST ITEM WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED IS, UH, AGENDA ITEM FOUR, UM, ON AD HOC COMMITTEE, BUT WE CAN REALLY START IT, THE DISCUSSION. YES. ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS A RECOMMENDATION [4. 26-55804 Recommendation to receive and file a report from current Ad Hoc Committee; discuss anticipated Ad Hoc Committees for upcoming projects; and, if appropriate, take action to dissolve or create Ad Hoc Committees.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] TO RECEIVE AND FILE A REPORT FROM CURRENT AD HOC COMMITTEE, DISCUSS ANTICIPATED AD HOC COMMITTEES FOR UPCOMING PROJECTS AND IF APPROPRIATE, TAKE ACTION TO DISSOLVE OR CREATE AD HOC COMMITTEES. AND THIS IS, UH, AN ACTION ITEM. WE'LL NEED A MOTION IN A SECOND TO DISCUSS. ALRIGHT. MOTION BY VICE CHAIR HOWARD, SECOND BY MEMBER EMMY. UM, THIS HAS BEEN A STANDING ITEM THAT'S BEEN BEFORE US AND WE UTILIZE THAT HOT COMMITTEE TO DRAFT THE LETTER THAT WE JUST APPROVED. UM, ANY DISCUSSION ON PATH FORWARD OR, UH, ITEMS IN THIS TO DISCUSS IN THIS AGENDA ITEM VICE HOWARD? WELL ON, ON THE ADVICE OF OUR COUNCIL THERE, UM, IS IT MORE, IS IT MORE PRACTICAL TO JUST LEAVE THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, UH, IN A, YOU KNOW, FORMED SO THAT WE CAN UTILIZE IT WITHIN THE NEXT TIME WE NEED THAT STRUCTURE RATHER THAN DISSOLVING IT AND REFORMING IT? SO IT IS NOT AN AD HOC COMMITTEE IF IT IS A STANDING IN PERPETUITY COMMITTEE. OKAY THEN IT IS A STANDING COMMITTEE. SO, AND I APOLOGIZE, I WASN'T HERE AT THE MEETING, THE AD HOC WAS CREATED, BUT IF IT WAS DESCRIBED AS AN AD HOC, MY PRESUMPTION WOULD BE THAT THE PURPOSE OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE WAS TO PREPARE THE LETTER THAT WAS JUST APPROVED BY THE BOARD FOR THIS YEAR. AND IT WOULD BE NORMAL AND CONSISTENT WITH OTHER COMMISSION PRACTICE TO ESTABLISH A NEW AD HOC WITH POTENTIALLY DIFFERENT MEMBERS NEXT TIME. SUCH CORRESPONDENCE NEEDS TO BE SENT TO CITY COUNCIL AND IT WOULD BE NORMAL PRACTICE FOR THE COMMISSION TO DISSOLVE THE PREVIOUSLY EXISTING AD HOC COMMITTEE, UM, UPON APPROVAL OF THE TRANSMISSION OF THE DOCUMENT. OKAY. YEAH, I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS A AD HOC COMMITTEE IS TEMPORARY AD HOC COMMITTEES ARE TEMPORARY. YES, CORRECT. UM, ANY, ANY PREFERENCE FOR MEMBERS ON ANYTHING ELSE THE AD HOC COMMITTEE COULD TEMPORARILY DO OR I THINK WE'RE, I MEAN THE BUDGET PROCESS IS HAPPENING, THE LETTER'S DONE. [01:00:01] OUR AND OUR NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING'S IN A THREE MONTHS IS A QUARTER FROM NOW. YES, IT'S IN NOVEMBER AND I CAN PULL THE EXACT DATE UP NOVEMBER 5TH AND THEN BY THAT TIME THE CITY BUDGET WILL BE DONE AND THE NEW FISCAL YEAR HAVE WILL HAVE STARTED AND UM, AND NEW, NEW TAX REVENUES WILL START TO COME IN UNDER A DIFFERENT FISCAL BUDGET. CORRECT. RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, SO I, UH, IF WE, IF THIS WAS AN ACTION ITEM, IF WE TAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO DISSOLVE THE AD HOC COMMITTEE CORRECT THE MAKER AND THE SECOND ARE AMENABLE TO THAT? YES. YES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UH, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON, UH, THIS AGENDA ITEM? IF THERE'S ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM FOUR, PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM AT THIS TIME. SEEING NONE, THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEM FOUR. OKAY. AND, UH, TO CONCLUDE THIS ITEM, WE'LL TAKE A, A VOTE MOTION IS CARRIED AS AMENDED. ALRIGHT. THE COMMITTEE IS DISSOLVED. UM, MOVING ON HERE, WE [PUBLIC COMMENT Opportunity to address the Transactions and Use Tax Citizens' Advisory Committee on non-agenda items. Each speaker is limited to three minutes to make their comments unless extended by the Chair.] DO HAVE LISTED, UH, I DUNNO, THIS GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT OR NON AGENDA ITEM, PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THAT NEXT? YEAH. NON AGENDA, PUBLIC COMMENT. IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE NON-AG AGENDA, PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE LINE UP AT THE PODIUM AT THIS TIME. SEEING NONE THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. ALRIGHT, SO OUR NEXT REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING IS NOVEMBER 4TH, FIFTH. FIFTH. UH, GREAT. IF I COULD REQUEST IN FUTURE AGENDAS WE PUT AT THE VERY END OF IT, UM, WHAT OUR NEXT MEETING DATE IS AND THEN THAT WAY WE CAN SAY IT AT THE END OF THE MEETING AND WE ALL CAN KNOW WE'RE OF COURSE. AWESOME. UH, ALRIGHT WITH THAT [ADJOURNMENT] IT'S 4 0 2 AND WE'LL ADJOURN THE COMMITTEE MEETING. THANKS EVERYBODY. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. YEAH, WE MADE IT. WE SURVIVED. SO NICE. YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO DO. OH MY GOODNESS. I, OH, IT'S SO WONDERFUL. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.