* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] ORDER 5 0 4. GOT ALL THE NEW NAMES ON HERE. UM, WHAT TAKE I THOUGHT WE HAD NINE. ALRIGHT. RATHER THAN ONE. ALL RIGHT. UM, ROLL CALL. [ROLL CALL] ED IS EXCUSED. CHIEF, IF I COULD JUST DO A QUICK ROLL CALL. WE HAVE COMMISSIONER EARL PRESENT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GOODIN. HERE. COMMISSIONER HARDMAN. HERE. COMMISSIONER TECH HERE. COMMISSIONER TRO. HERE. CHAIR. EXCUSE ME. COMMISSIONER VARGAS HERE. UH, AS YOU SAID, VICE CHAIR ATKINS BLADE IS EXCUSED FROM THE MEETING. AND THEN CHAIR OSBORN. THANK YOU. WE HAVE . YES. IT'S HIDING BACK THERE ABOVE ME, BUT, OH, TRY. NO, IT'S OKAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. SHE, HI, TINA. TINA, YOU [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] HANDS ALL START AT THE TOP. I GET A MOTION TO [1. 26-56158 Recommendation to receive and file opening remarks from the Chair.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] RE RECEIVE A FILE OPENING MARK TO THE CHAIR. MOTION SECOND, MOVE. SECOND, RIGHT, CHAD? RIGHT? YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU GUYS KNOW ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE LAST WEEK OR SO WITH THE CITY BUDGET. AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT. WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT A FOUR UP TO EITHER ONE OR ACTUALLY AT TWO, EXCUSE ME. AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THAT. BUT NOT GOOD. COULD'VE BEEN BETTER. WE DIDN'T GET, WE DIDN'T GET SUNSET PLUS 'CAUSE THE ORIGINAL BUDGET FROM THE CITY MANAGER AT OUR SUNSET, WHICH WOULD'VE BEEN . SO NOT THE BEST THING. UM, WE CONTINUE, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT LATER. WE HAD A GREAT EVENT FOR THE, UM, BANNERS PROGRAM OVER AT THE YACHT CLUB. AND THANK YOU FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT FOR STEPPING UP ON THAT. 'CAUSE WE'VE GOT A LITTLE, LITTLE DICEY AT THE END. THAT'S JUST, WE HAD A REAL GREAT TURNOUT. WE HAD WAY MORE THAN WE EXPECTED. SO THAT HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, NORMALLY WE'RE COUNTING LESS, BUT WE GOT OLD, LIKE A HUNDRED RSV FEES, SO PRETTY COOL. TINA WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT. UM, I DID TRY TO GO TO THE VA. I WAS AT THE BE TO TRY TO TALK TO THEM AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE TO SIGN UP AS A VENDOR TO BE PART OF THEIR GAME. SO I'LL FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THAT IF YOU GIMME THE APPLICATION. I JUST GOT THAT THIS MORNING. PA O PUBLIC AFFAIRS WASN'T IN, SO DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO TALK TO THEM, BUT THEY DIDN'T GO BY THEIR OFFICE THIS MORNING. THEY SAID, THAT'S PROBABLY THE PERSON WE TALK TO FIRST, BECAUSE THEY'RE USUALLY IN CHARGE OF ALL EVENTS ON CAMPUS THERE. 'CAUSE THE IDEA IS THAT WITH EVERYTHING IN FACT, THAT MAYBE WE, YOU KNOW, ARE TIGHTER PARTNERSHIPS AND LEVERAGING OTHER PEOPLE'S EVENTS, THAT OURS MIGHT BE THE WAY TO GO. IF YOU CAN FIND OUT, YOU, I'M, WE'LL TALK AGAIN ABOUT THIS. GIVE TO THE VETERANS DAY EVENTS, HOW THAT'S GONNA PLAY OUT, BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY PAID FOR AND PROGRAM IN THE EVENTS DEPARTMENT. SO WHAT WE, WHAT WE ADD TO IT, IT'S GONNA BE A DIFFERENT STORY NOW. HAVE AS MUCH SUPPORT ON THE FULL TIME SIDE. THINGS WE'LL GET TO, BUT WANTED TO TOUCH ON THOSE AND WITH, AND WE'LL TALK TO SEE WHAT GINA'S PERSPECTIVE IS, WHAT SHE PLANS ON DOING, BECAUSE SHE'S UP, HER [00:05:01] SITUATION IS NOW CUT TO 13 HOURS A WEEK, SO I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH YOU CAN GET DONE WITH THAT AND WHAT SHE, WHAT HER PLANS ARE. BUT I PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF EXTRA TIME FOR VOLUNTEER, ASIDE FROM THE EVENTS BEING DONE. THAT'S JUST THE REALITY OF IT. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME THE REST OF YOU HAVE AND HOW WE PROCEED FROM HERE AND HOW WE CHOOSE TO PROCEED. EACH PERSON WILL MAKE THEIR OWN DECISION ON THAT. WHETHER, HOW THEY'RE GONNA DEAL WITH THIS. IT'S UP TO THEM, I'M GONNA THINK ABOUT THIS FOR THE NEXT MONTH AND SEE HOW I CHOOSE TO PROCEED OR WHETHER I CHOOSE TO PROCEED AT ALL. BECAUSE IT'S NOT WHAT WE STARTED, NOT WHAT WE PLANNED, AND THEY DON'T, THE CITY HAS THROUGH ITS ACTIONS SHOWN HOW IT SUPPORTS US OR DOESN'T. WELL, WHAT IS IT THAT WE COULD DO THAT, THAT GINA USED ARE, IT'LL BE EVENT BY EVENT. IT'S AS EVENTS GET CLOSER, THERE ARE A WHOLE BUNCH OF TASKS THAT HAPPEN. AND UNFORTUNATELY A LOT OF 'EM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO OURSELVES OR NOT. YOU KNOW, INTER INTERDEPARTMENTAL COMMUNICATION COORDINATION WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF MEETINGS AND SUCH THAT HAPPEN, BUT I REALLY DON'T KNOW. WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE IT OUT PIECE BY THESE BASIS. BUT IT'S GOING GET, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A FAIR AMOUNT, PROBABLY DOUBLE FOR WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN THE PAST AS COMMISSIONERS TO SUPPORT HER BECAUSE IT'S ONLY SO MANY HOURS IN THE DAY. I'M JUST, I'M A LITTLE, I'M SADDENED THAT, THAT THIS IS HOW THE CITY HAS CHOSEN TO SUPPORT ITS VETERANS OR NOT. AND, YOU KNOW, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS. NOT, THERE'S NOT A PODIUM FOR PEOPLE TO STAND ON AND MAKE SPEECHES ABOUT US AND HOW MUCH THEY LOVE US. THEY'VE SHOWN THEY, THEY'VE SHOWN THEIR LOVE, BUT THEY ALSO CUT A FIRE ENGINE. SO THAT TELLS YOU IT WASN'T A GREAT YEAR. UM, THAT'S IT. UM, QUESTIONS? PUBLIC, PUBLIC COMMENT. NO. YEAH, GO FOR IT. CAN I ASK EVERYBODY TO SPEAK UP JUST A LITTLE BIT? ALRIGHT, SO I HAVE A QUESTION. SO, IN REGARDS TO THE BUDGET THAT YOU BROUGHT UP, RIGHT? HOW MUCH, WHAT DOES THE FUTURE LOOK LIKE FOR THIS ION? WELL, WE'VE NEVER HAD AN ACTUAL BUDGET OTHER THAN HER SALARY IN HER SALARY GOT CUT BY THREE QUARTERS. SO SHE'S NOW A QUARTER 20 PERSON VERSUS AS OF THE END OF THIS MONTH VERSUS A FULL IN PERSON, WHICH IS 13 NOW, BASICALLY 13 HOURS A WEEK. SO, AND WHICH WE'LL DIG IN A LITTLE FURTHER ON THAT, WHAT THAT REALLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT LEADS TO. BUT THAT'S WHAT THE ORIGINAL BUDGET HAD. OUR, OUR, OUR, WE WERE CUT COMPLETE, THEN THE MAYOR SAID 50%, THEN THE BUDGET CHAIR AND BUDGET COMMITTEE SAID, EH, 25%. SO AT THE END WHEN THEY SIGNED OFF ON THE WHOLE THING FOR 25%. AND THERE IS AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA TO GO FURTHER. YEAH, THAT'S FINE. WE'LL, WE'LL DIG INTO IT A LITTLE FURTHER, BUT THAT'S KIND OF A ONE OVER 50,000 VIEW. ALL RIGHT. UM, WE HAVE A MOTION, HAVE A SECOND. AND IF I MAY, ANOTHER THING THAT, UH, I'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO IS DO A ROLL CALL VOTE. SO RATHER THAN ALL IN FAVOR, I'LL CALL YOU INDIVIDUALLY AND WE CAN SAY YAY OR THANK. OKAY. COMMISSIONER EARL? YES. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GOODEN. YES. THANK YOU. MR. HARIMA. YES. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER TRA. YES. MR. TECH. YES. COMMISSIONER VARGAS. YES. CHAIR OSBORNE. YEP. THANK YOU. MOTION CARRIES. ALRIGHT, UM, WE'RE GONNA MOVE NUMBER FOUR UP. [4. 26-56166 Recommendation to receive and file updates on the FY 27 Budget and discuss next steps, including any commission-related considerations.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] RECOMMEND TO RECEIVE AN FILE UPDATE ON THE DISCLAIMER 2027 BUDGET AND DISCUSS NEXT STEPS, INCLUDING ANY COMMISSION RELATED CONSIDERATIONS. CAN I GET A MOTION? MOTION? AND WE HAVE A SECOND. I, ALRIGHT, I'LL HAND THE FLOOR. THANK YOU. C HEY, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. UM, SO KEN, YOU DID A REALLY GREAT JOB. KIND OF TEE US UP HERE. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW OR WERE FALLING, ALL THE STAFF WILL KIND OF GO BACKWARDS IN BED, JUST BRINGING US UP TO THE PRESENT DAY. SO, AS, UM, CHRISTINA, RIGHT, WHAT , UM, ORIGINALLY AS MENTIONED, THE CITY'S [00:10:01] BUDGET WAS FIRST, OR THE CITY FIRST PUTS FORWARD A BUDGET THAT IS PREPARED BY CITY MANAGEMENT. SO THE CITY MANAGER, UM, WITHIN THAT FIRST BUDGET, THE POSITION MECHANISM, SO OFFICE OF SUPPORT, WHICH IS IN PUBLIC HEALTH, PROFESSIONAL FREE. JUST YOU WANNA LOOK AT THE BUDGET, YOU CAN SEE IT, UH, IT WAS PRODUCED ENTIRELY. THEN, UH, THE SAME DAY THE MAYOR TYPICALLY SUBMITS OR SHARES HIS MAYOR, WHAT'S CALLED MAYOR REVISE'S BUDGET. BUDGET. UM, AND THEN WITHIN THAT BUDGET, HE MAY, THE MAYOR. SO MRS. UM, RICHARDSON, UH, HE PUTS FORWARD THE THINGS THAT HE WANTS TO REINSTATE OR BRING BACK UP. SO IN THAT REVISED BUDGET, UH, THE OVS POSITION WAS BROUGHT UP TO 0.5 15. SO 0.5 FULL TIME EMPLOYEE. THAT'S HOW WE LOOK AT OUR STAFFING. AND THAT WAS DONE, UH, BEGINNING OF AUGUST. UM, WHICH I KNOW THAT SOME OF YOU WENT TO THE POC MEETINGS OR BUDGET MEETINGS MOVING FORWARD AND MADE BOTTLE COMMENT. UM, THE MORNING, THE ASPART IN, AT ONE O'CLOCK ON SEPTEMBER 8TH, THE DAY OF THE CITY BUDGET WAS ADOPTED. UH, THE BUDGET OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, WHICH ARE THREE, UH, CITY COUNCILORS, MADE A PRESENTATION OF THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS OF WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL LATER THAT NIGHT SHOULD ADOPT IN THEIR BUDGET. AND ONE OF WHICH, WHICH IS, IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT THE MINUTES, IS AN ITEM ONE B 16. UM, I WOULD READ IT THE WAY IT WAS IS PUT UP SO THAT IT'S ON RECORD. IT SAYS, MOTION TO REDUCE THE MAYOR'S RECOGNITION OF RESTORING 86,150 FOR A HALF PUBLIC HEALTH PROFESSIONAL. THREE IN THE OFFICE OF VETERANS AFFAIRS TO 61,150 TOWARDS FUNDING THE POSITION AND REALLOCATING 25,000 TOWARDS THE VETERANS BANNERS PROGRAM. 20,000 FOR BANNERS AND 5,000 FOR THE RECOGNITION SERVICES OF THOSE S IN THE GENERAL, UH, FUND GROUP IN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT OR HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES. SO THAT DOES REDUCE, UH, THE POSITION FROM 0.5 MT TO 0.34, OR I'M SORRY, THREE, TWO MT. SO 32%, WHICH IS ABOUT 13 TO 14 POINT A HALF HOURS A WEEK. OUR ANALYSTS ARE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT, UM, AS WE'VE NOT HAD SOMEBODY AT 0.32 ON STAFF BEFORE. SO WE'RE WORKING TO FIGURE THAT OUT. UM, IT WAS THEN ADOPTED LATER THAT EVENING. UM, I KNOW THERE WERE SOME OF YOU WHO WERE THERE, UH, WHO ALSO GAVE, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT THEN. AND THEN I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION. SO THE WAY IN WHICH IT WAS WRITTEN SOUNDED LIKE THE MOTION WAS TO RESTORE THE WHOLE THING TO BACK TO 0.5. UM, BUT IN ACTUALITY, UNFORTUNATELY, IT IS MOVING DOWN TO 0.32. UM, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT DID ADVOCATE FOR IT TO REMAIN AT 0.5, UM, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES INTO THIS IN MORE THAN 14 HOURS A WEEK, AS YOU ALL KNOW AS WELL. UM, SO THAT IS KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE BUDGET ADOPTION. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU ALL CAN'T VOICE WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO VOICE AS COMMISSIONERS. UM, REGINA AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, UH, HER JOB DESCRIPTION WILL BE MOVING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT IS FEASIBLE IN 14 HOURS A WEEK WITH THE COMMISSION AND THE OTHER, UM, TASKS WITHIN OVS POSITIONS. AND NOT JUST WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING, BUT ALSO WHAT IS IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN. UM, IS SUPPORTING VETERANS DAY, MEMORIAL DAY, SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE DONE FOR, YOU KNOW, REALISTICALLY RIGHT. ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. UM, AND ALSO LOOKING AT WHAT THINGS CAN BE DELEGATED TO YOU ALL IF YOU WANTED TO, UM, PARTICIPATE IN THAT WAY MOVING FORWARD. UM, THAT ALSO, I DON'T KNOW IF WE JUST TESTED IT, BUT, UH, EVEN PRIOR TO ALL OF THIS, PART OF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IN FY 27 IS GOING TO GROW A REORGANIZATION. SO GINA, REGARDLESS OF KIND OF HOW THIS PLAYED OUT, WAS MOVING INTO A DIFFERENT DIVISION. SO MOVING OUT OF MY DIVISION, UM, AND MOVING INTO, UM, OUR DIVISION THAT FOCUSES ON SPECIFIC POPULATIONS. SO OUR RACIAL HEALTH EQUITY TEAM, OUR VIOLENCE PREVENTION, HUMAN TRAFFICKING, UM, SO VERY OUTSIDE OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES, OUR FOCUSED POPULATIONS. SO THAT IS AS OF ALL CHILDREN FIRST. SO YOU WILL SEE MY COLLEAGUE JEREMY SPRS, WHO WILL BE, WHO IS THEIR OFFICER, UM, AND WILL BE ATTENDING MOVING FORWARD. SO I, THAT IS MY REPORT SO I CAN OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS. IF THE, THE ORIGINAL, UM, I GUESS CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET ZEROED IT OUT, THAT MEANS, WHAT WAS THE INTENT OF THAT? JUST GET RID OF THIS COMMISSION. I DON'T KNOW THE INTENTION BEHIND, BEHIND THAT. THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE. YEAH. OKAY. I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU ACTUALLY KNEW BECAUSE WE NOT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE IT JUST SAYING WE'RE GONNA DO AWAY WITH STUDENTS. YEAH. UNFORTUNATELY. CAN'T GIVE IT BACK A THIRD SALES. WELL GONNA [00:15:01] SUPPORT IT, BUT YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY IT'S CITY STAFF AREN'T INVOLVED AT THAT. YEAH. THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE IN THE ORIGINAL BUDGET REQUIRE ITEMS SET SUNSETTING THE COMMISSION. THANK YOU. THERE WAS NO, IT WAS PRETTY CLEAR BECAUSE I ACTUALLY STARTED, YEAH. THERE 10 WAS BECAUSE I WENT THROUGH THE BUDGET, READ ALL THE LITTLE SECTIONS. THAT WAS THE LANGUAGE THAT I SAW THAT INTERESTING. YEP. SO WITH, WITH THAT, UM, I MEAN THE WAY IT SOUNDS, THEY'RE NOT GETTING RID OF ANY EVENTS BECAUSE NORMALLY YOU'RE RUN BY THE COMMITTEE, RIGHT? SO THE VETERAN'S DAY ALLOCATION AND SPECIAL EVENTS OF $50,000, THAT IS THE ONLY EVENT THAT EVER HAVE FUNDING. UM, STRUCTURALLY MEMORIAL DAY HAS ALWAYS BEEN FUNDED THROUGH A GRANT AT JUNIOR RIGHTS. UM, AND THEN THE BANNERS PROGRAM FOR THIS YEAR, THEY DID, THEY REALLOCATED SOME OF TINA'S TIME TO COVER THE COST OF THE BANNERS. SO THAT SOUNDS LIKE BANNERS WILL CONTINUE, IS THERE IN REGARDS TO THE BANNERS MM-HMM . IF WE WERE TO SAY, ARE WE, CAN WE REALLOCATE THE BANNER MONEY BACK TO GINA? BECAUSE IS IS THE PRIORITY TO THIS VETERANS COMMISSION, THE BANNERS OR THE SUPPORT TO THE VETERANS? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. UM, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO TALK WITH YOUR, UH, BECAUSE WE, WE HAVE DONE, ON MY SIDE, I'VE DONE ALL I CAN TO ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF THE WORK I KNOW YOU GUYS BEEN DOING AND THIS WAS THE DECISION PUBLIC. SO IN REGARDS TO THAT, RIGHT? IF WE GET THE CITY COUNCIL TO SAY YES, WE CAN REALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS BACK TO THAT AND RESTORE GDAS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE FEASIBLE EVEN OUTSIDE THE BUDGET DISCUSSION? RIGHT. SO THE BUDGET HAS BEEN PUT IN PLACE AND NOW WE'RE IN, WE'RE ONCE IT STARTS, RIGHT, WE CAN TRANSFER THOSE. I THINK IT'S IN THE REALM OF FEASIBILITY BECAUSE IT IS TECHNICALLY WITHIN THE SAME MOTION, BUT THAT WILL BE DECISIONS AGAIN ABOVE ONE OF OUR, IT'S $50,000 TO THE OTHER, BRINGS HER UP TO HALF THE OTHER 25,000. MM-HMM . THAT BRINGS YOU TO HALF TIME. CORRECT. IF WE WANTED TO COVER TO THE OTHER HALF, WHAT DID THEY REALLOCATE? WHAT DID THEY TAKE AWAY? UM, THE 86,000 IS HER FULL-TIME. FTE, I'M SORRY, FULLY LOADED PART-TIME COST. SO DOUBLE THAT. SOME OTHER 86 ROUGHLY WOULD BRING HER TO ONE FTE. OH. AND WHERE IT WAS REALLOCATED TO, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA JUST ASKED COUNSEL. MM-HMM. UM, WHO, WHO GOT THE OTHER TWO THIRDS OF THE FTE? WHERE DID IT GO? THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST LIKE SHARING. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS, I'M NOT, WE'RE NOT TOLD THAT. I'M SORRY, SAY THAT AGAIN. WE'RE NOT TOLD HOW IT'S REALLOCATED. WELL THAT YOU'VE SEEN SOMEPLACE IN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. UM, MUST HAVE 1.23. NO, WE, NO, WE WEREN'T, WE WERE NOT GIVEN ANOTHER PART OF THIS FROM SOME, FOR SOMETHING ELSE, BUT IT WAS JUST GOD. YEAH. MM-HMM. THERE'S LESS TOTAL. YEAH. SO THAT WHATEVER PIECE WENT AWAY. UM, THE VETERANS DAY EVENT AS IT STANDS, IS THAT BAKED IN ALREADY? WITH, WITH THE, WITH THE, UM, EVENTS DEPARTMENT? CORRECT. NO WAY TO, SO IF WE WERE, THIS IS MY SCENARIO, IF WE WERE TO MAKE A DEAL WITH THE BA MM-HMM . AND BE ABLE TO JUST NOT HAVE OUR EVENT AND SUPPORT THEIR EVENT AT MAYBE A LEVEL OF $25,000, WOULD THAT, IS THAT A FEASIBLE THING? 'CAUSE IT'S, I KNOW IT'S IN THEIR KITTY AND THEY MAY HAVE DONE RIGHT. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT COULD, THAT SEEMS LIKE A QUESTION FOR, FOR PROBABLY THE CITY MANAGER. THAT'S SOME, BECAUSE IT SPECIAL EVENTS IS WITHIN THE CITY MANAGEMENT DEPART. THEY MANAGE THAT BUDGET. SO I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO HAVING REALITY PLANS. SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME KIND OF CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY MANAGER. CORRECT. I AM MAKING ASSUMPTIONS PROBABLY. ARE WE ALLOWED TO, AS COMMISSIONERS, YOU ARE ABLE TO SEE YOUR TALK, THE CITY MANAGER, NOTHING. I MEAN, YOUR REPRESENTATIVES OF LONG BEACH, YOU TALK TO YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS [00:20:01] HOW YOU WOULD MECHANICALLY I WOULD IN AN INDIVIDUAL CAPACITY, NOT, I WANNA BE CLEAR. RIGHT? YEAH. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO BE A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TALKING TO THE CITY MANAGER. CORRECT. NOT A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSIONER. CORRECT. UNLESS YOU GET APPROVAL BY THE COMMISSION TO THEN TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER. THAT WOULD BE AN AGENDA ITEM. YOU'LL NOTICE, CARLOS, YOU, YOU BEING NEW THAT, UM, AND, AND GU MAY ADD THIS TO PUBLIC COMMENT, IS THAT YOU HAVE YOUR COMMISSIONER HAT AND YOU HAVE YOUR RESIDENT OF LONG BEACH WHO'S A VETERAN HAT MM-HMM . SO YOU DON'T SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION WITHOUT CONSULTING THE COMMISSION WITHIN, YOU KNOW, THE AGENDAS, THE ITEMS, YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE INDIVIDUAL CONTACT, UNLESS THEY'RE, THEY'RE COORDINATED IN SOME WAY AND YOU'RE ALL, YOU'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE REPEATING THE SAME MESSAGE, THEN IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE POINTLESS. RIGHT. WELL ASK THE PARLIAMENTARY , WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE UNDER THIS MOTION TO APPROVE, SAY IF I WANTED TO MAKE TO APPROACH CITY MANAGER AS THE CHAIR, WOULD THAT BE POSSIBLE? UNDER THIS MOTION AS THE CHAIR, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF COMMISSION. OKAY. SO I DON'T NEED, I DON'T NEED A SPECIAL VOTE, BUT I CAN, YOU WOULD NEED THEM TO AUTHORIZE THE TOPIC THAT YOU'RE GONNA DISCUSS, BUT OTHER THAN THAT YOU COULD ON YOUR OWN, GO AHEAD AND SPEAK TO THE . WHERE WOULD THAT BE BROUGHT UP? WE WOULD DO IT AS A AGENDA ITEM. WE COULDN'T, I MEAN, LIKE TONIGHT WE COULDN'T DO IT TONIGHT BECAUSE THIS IS JUST A RECEIVING FILE AND THOSE ARE VERY LIKE, SPECIFIC RULES ABOUT WHAT ACTION YOU CAN AND CANNOT TAKE. BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY AGENDA SOMETHING FOR THE NEXT MEETING TO AUTHORIZE YOU TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF YOUR COMMISSION ON WHATEVER TOPIC YOU JUST CHOOSE. AND THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH TOO LATE. SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING IT'S BECAUSE QUESTION ARE, ARE WE AS A COMMISSION ALLOWED TO, UM, IS THE CHAIR ALLOWED TO CALL A SPECIAL, A SPECIAL MEETING? THE CHAIR CAN CALL THE SPECIAL MEETING. WE HAVE TO AGENDA IT, RIGHT? POST THE AGENDA, RIGHT? YEAH. SORRY, I I CAN USE THE SAME LINES I USE WHEN I WANTED SPEAK IN COUNSEL TODAY. I'M HERE NOT SPEAKING AS THE, THAT'S AN OPTION AS THE CHAIR, NOT SPEAKING AS THE CHAIR OF THE VETERANS COMMISSION AND GET THE SAME ATTENTION. AND THE POSTING REQUIREMENTS FOR A SPECIAL MEETING ARE DIFFERENT THAN A REGULAR MEETING. SO WE WOULD NEED, UM, I WOULD NEED SOME TIME IN ADVANCE TO GET EVERYTHING TOGETHER, BUT WE WOULD HAVE 24 HOURS NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC RATHER THAN 72. I WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT TOO, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 10 YEARS, IS THAT I, AS A STAFF PERSON CAN'T GO TALK TO A COUNCIL MEMBER WITH THE CITY MANAGER. BUT YOU CAN'T, I'M JUST GOING BACK TO WHAT, WHAT CHRISTINA SAID. THE COUNCIL ISN'T ALLOWED TO DIRECT WHAT I DO AND I'M NOT A REP ALLOWED TO DIRECT WHAT THEY, SO, BUT YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT STANCE AS YOU KNOW, UH, BEING PART OF THE COMMISSION AND RESIDENCE OF LONG BEACH. SO I JUST WANTED TO TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. SO YOU YOU'RE, YOU'RE ABLE TO DO THINGS THAT I, I I CAN'T. UM, GINA, UM, WHAT ARE YOUR FEELINGS AT THIS POINT? I MEAN, YOU MAY NOT HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THIS AT THIS MEETING, BUT AS A GOING FORWARD AT 13 HOURS A WEEK, WHAT'S YOUR, WELL, AND YOU HAVE TO ANSWER AT THIS, THIS MEETING IF YOU'RE NOT READY TO ANSWER THAT. BUT I WANNA BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE TALK, WE'RE WASTING TIME IF YOU'RE NOT LIKE, I'M ADDING, I'M DONE, DONE WITH THIS. RIGHT. WELL, IT'S A SHOCK. I'M PROCESSING IT. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT CAN BE DONE. AND, YOU KNOW, IN THE CASE OF THE VETERANS DAY EVENTS SPECIFICALLY, UM, I, I THINK MY OVERALL CALL IS THAT I'M GONNA DISCUSS WITH CHRISTINA AND MY SUPERVISOR TO BE WHAT, WHAT I CAN HANDLE OR MANAGE RECENTLY. AND WE HAVE TO JUST GO FROM THERE. UM, THE VETERANS DAY EVENT EVENT IN PARTICULAR HAS A LOT OF PIECES AND PARTS. AND WHEN, WHEN I HAVE, WHEN WE'RE ON, UM, WHEN I GIVE MY REPORT IN A FEW MINUTES AND, AND ON ITEM, THE ITEM ON VETERANS DAY, I'LL TALK TO, OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM. , I'M NOT RUNNING AWAY YET. OKAY. YOU DON'T, UM, THERE'S NO RUNNING AWAY. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE FAMILY, YOU HAVE BUDGETS, YOU HAVE YOUR OWN STUFF TO DEAL WITH AND WHETHER IT MAKES, WHETHER IT MAKES, STILL MAKES SENSE OR NOT. THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM. LIKE I SAID, YOU DON'T HAVE ANSWER RIGHT NOW. I KNOW YOU'RE STILL PROCESSING IT, BUT I AT LEAST WANTED TO ADDRESS IT. APPRECIATE YOUR CARE. I, I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING THOUGH. BUDGET WHEN WE [00:25:01] HAVE THE INTERN, YOUR INTERN BEING OH, THE APPLE. OKAY. YES. SO THE INTERN WAS DOING A LOT OF WORK HELPING, CORRECT. WHAT'S THAT? THAT CUT THE BUDGET. SO THAT WAS PART OF FFY 26 BUDGET, WHICH WE'RE WRAPPING UP RIGHT NOW. UM, AND YOU, WHEN GENOME WAS ON LEAVE, THAT COST SAVINGS ALLOWED US TO HAVE BUDGET TO BRING SADLY ON TO COVER SOME OF THAT WORK. SO I GUESS IT WON'T BE SOMETHING THAT IS CARRIED OVER INTO FY 20 CENTURY. THANK YOU. WHAT UP THE SOUTH? UM, THEY, UH, THEY'RE IN BALI RIGHT NOW. THEY HAVE, UH, WRAPPED UP THEIR TIME AND THEY WERE, THEY FINISHED THEIR SCHOOLING WITH, UM, THEY'RE MASTER'S OF SOCIAL WORK AND THEY'RE GOING INTO CLINICAL WORK NOW. OKAY. BECAUSE I KNOW SHE WAS LIKE POSSIBLY BROUGHT ON FULL IN ANOTHER STATUS OR, UH, SHE, THEY WERE AN INTERN AND THEY WORKED WITH APPLE ONE AS A TEMP EMPLOYEE AND THEY ARE NOW INTERN IN THE WORLD OF SOCIAL WORK. GOT IT. I LIKE AN IN BETWEEN. ALRIGHT. I THINK WE'VE BEAT THIS HORSE FOR THE MOMENT. UM, YOU CAN DO YOUR ROLL CALL VOTE. UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST? OH, I'M SORRY. NO, , GET OUT. HI, EVERYBODY. UH, MY NAME IS GUS. I, UH, FORMER COMMISSIONER, UH, VETERAN AND DISTRICT NINE RESIDENT. UH, I ALSO WANTED TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT, THAT WERE BROUGHT UP DURING THIS BUDGET DISCUSSION. SO, UM, OBVIOUSLY THE CITY STAFF AND A LOT OF US DIDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHY THE CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET COMPLETELY CUT, UM, THIS POSITION AND THIS COMMISSION COMPLETELY OFF. ONE THING I DO KNOW ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET RECOMMENDATION IS THAT IT HAS TO BE, UH, A BALANCE BUDGET, WHICH MEANS THAT, UH, THE CITY MANAGER BASICALLY HAS TO CUT EVERYTHING THAT, THAT HE CAN IN ORDER TO HAVE A BALANCE BUDGET. UM, WHETHER OR NOT THEIR INTENT WAS TO COMPLETELY CUT THE, YOU KNOW, VETERANS COMMISSION OR NOT, CAN'T REALLY BE ADDRESSED. UM, I DO KNOW THAT THE MAYOR AND THE, THE CITY MANAGER ACTUALLY DO WORK TOGETHER ON THE MAYOR'S RECOMMENDATIONS. AND SO IT COULD HAVE BEEN, UH, YOU KNOW, A DISCUSSION WHERE THE, THE MAYOR ALREADY KNEW THAT HE WAS GONNA TRY TO BRING BACK THE COMMISSION AT SOME CAPACITY AND, AND GINA'S POSITION. UM, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT, UM, JUST FROM, UM, YOU KNOW, PUBLICLY, UM, AVAILABLE RESOURCES. SO I, I DID WANT TO BRING THAT UP. UM, I ALSO WANTED TO SAY THAT, UH, AS A COMMISSION, OBVIOUSLY YOU ALREADY DISCUSSED THE POSSIBILITY OF TALKING TO THE MAYORS AND COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER, UH, ABOUT YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS AS COMMISSIONERS IN THE VETERANS COMMISSION, WHICH WOULD HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, IZED. UM, AND IT CAN BE DONE THROUGH A SPECIAL MEETING. IT COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE WRITING A LETTER, UM, BECAUSE THIS IS AN, UH, AN ADVISORY BODY TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. AND AS, UH, AN ADVISORY BODY, YOU CAN SUGGEST THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE $25,000 FOR VANDER PRO, UH, PROGRAM OR PROJECT ISN'T AS IMPORTANT AS PUTTING THAT TO A, A, YOU KNOW, A STAFF POSITION. SO, UH, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THAT ABILITY AS COMMISSIONERS. UM, IT'S, IT'S AN ABILITY THAT WE TOOK ON WHEN I WAS A COMMISSIONER. UM, SO I ABSOLUTELY ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE THAT ON, YOU KNOW, UM, CALLING THE SPECIAL MEETING. I, I THINK WE ONLY DID ONE OR TWO WHEN, WHEN I WAS ON THE COMMISSION, BUT, UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE AT YOUR DISPOSAL. UM, I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT, UH, WITH GINA'S, UH, YOU KNOW, GINA'S, UH, TIME COMMITMENTS MOVING FORWARD, I ALSO WANNA EMPOWER YOU AS COMMISSIONERS TO REALLY TAKE A LEADERSHIP ROLE BECAUSE YOU VOLUNTEERED FOR THIS POSITION. YOU KNOW, THIS POSITION WASN'T SOMETHING THAT YOU WERE VOLUNTOLD TO BE. UM, SO GET OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, ENGAGE OTHER VETERANS OR ENGAGE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO HELP, UH, PICK UP SOME OF THAT LOAD. AND HOPEFULLY IN COMING YEARS, IF, IF THE BUDGET IS A LITTLE BIT STRONGER, YOU KNOW, WE CAN REALLOCATE OR WE CAN SUGGEST TO CITY COUNCILMAN AND CITY MANAGER HOW TO REALLOCATE SOME OF THAT, UM, SOME OF THOSE RESOURCES. BUT AGAIN, HE DID VOLUNTEER FOR THIS, AND YOU CAN ENROLL IT. UH, THINK ARE, IF I MAY, YOUR TIME IS CONCLUDED UNLESS IT'S EXTENDED BY, UH, YEAH. I MEAN, IF, IF YOU'RE ALL THERE FOR, YOU ALL RAISE YOUR HAND TO, TO DO SOMETHING GREAT. AND YOU'RE ALL EACH DOING GREAT THINGS TONIGHT. I, I JUST FOR YOU TO TAKE THAT ON. AND I'M HERE AS SOCIAL SOURCE MEDIA, JOHN. ALL RIGHT. YOU READY FOR A VOTE? UH, COMMISSIONER, [00:30:02] BE THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GOODIN? YES. COMMISSIONER HAMAN. YES. COMMISSIONER TRO. AYE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER TECH. YES. COMMISSIONER VARGAS. YES. COMM CHAIR HOR. YES. MOTION CARRIES. ALRIGHT, NOW BACK TO NUMBER TWO. UMM, GET [2. 26-56159 Recommendation to receive and file a report on the activities of the Office of Veterans Support.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] A MOTION AND A SECOND ONE, NUMBER TWO. MOTION. ALRIGHT. OKAY. UH, MY REPORT TO THE COMMISSION FOLLOWS, AND I'M GONNA START WITH THE VETERANS STANDARDS RECEPTION. UH, IT WAS A RESOUNDING SUCCESS AND THE CHRISTINA REALIZED SOME SAVINGS WHILE I WAS OUT MEDICAL LEAVE THAT MADE IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE THE EVENT AT THE YOUNG CLUB AND SOME LITTLE PRICIER THAN HAVING AN EVENT AT JIMMY EATS LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR. UM, SO, AND WE, AND, UH, AT THAT EVENT LAST YEAR, A A BANNER HONOREE CAME UP TO ME AND SAID, WELL, WHY DON'T WE DO THE OPPO NEXT YEAR? AND WELL, I, I CONTACTED AND SAID, BUT LET'S, LET'S SEE IF IT'S FEASIBLE. SO, AND THANKS. I WANT TO THANK SALLY MSO, WHO MANAGED BANNER PROGRAM IN MY HOUSE. UM, DID GREAT JOB. 'CAUSE IT IS A MULTILAYERED COMPLEX FAMILY FOR SURE. IT CANNOT BE DONE FOR 13 HOURS A WEEK. UM, SO WE PARTNERED, WELL, SALLY AND I TO PLAN TO DELIVER THE EVENT, UH, WHICH HAD ITS TWISTS AND TURNS, LET TELL YOU, UH, SOME OF THEM AT THE LAST COST. UM, SO THE RSVPS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS BEFORE THE DEADLINE LINE TO MARCH A HUNDRED, WHICH MEANT WE NEEDED TO INCREASE THE CATERING BUDGET. AND THAT FIGURE THAT GOT UP TO ABOUT 121 RSVPS WAS NOT INCLUDED, INCLUDING ALL THE COMMISSIONER SHOWED UP, COUNCIL MEMBER SHOWED UP IF THE MAYOR SHOWED UP. SO IT WAS, IT WAS, WE WERE, IT WAS, WE GOT NERVOUS AND EVEN AFTER THE DEADLINE, WE PELED IT WITH EMAILS POURING US TO, HEY, I'M LATE, BUT I'M COMING. AND, UH, HEY, I ALREADY RP BUT I'M BRINGING MY GRANDPA, MY DOG. I MEAN, IT WAS CRAZY . SO WE HAD TO PULL POLITE, SAY, NO, YOU ALREADY RP IT'S ONE PERSON PER TWO PEOPLE MAX PER HONOREE IF HONOREE'S DECEASED, THE TWO OF YOU, IF HONOREE'S STILL LIVE, YOU GUESS. SO, I, I DON'T SOCIAL MEDIA ON THE EVENT IS SUPPOSED TO BE POSTED. IT IS. I, I DIDN'T SEE ME TODAY, BUT TAKE, YOU KNOW, PEEK AT THE INSTAGRAM PAGE BECAUSE IT, IT IS, UM, IT'S STILL REVERBERATING. I'M GETTING LOTS OF EMAILS OF THANKS AND UH, UH, ET CETERA. SO JUST THE FUN FACTS ARE, IF EVERYBODY WHO RCP YOU SAID TO BE 121 PEOPLE, WE FACTORED IN THAT ABOUT 15% OF IT'S KIND ON THE INDUSTRY STANDARDS DON'T SHOW UP WHEN THEY RCP. AND THERE'S ALSO PEOPLE THAT SHOW UP THAT DIDN'T. RSVP, SO ABOUT 23% ROUGHLY DROPPED OFF AND, BUT WE STILL HAD A ROBUST ATTENDANCE OF 86 PEOPLE AND WITH THE VOLUNTEERS AND STAFF WERE UP TO 95. SO OVERALL, THE, THE OPPORTUNITY MIX WITH MINGLE, WHICH IS WHAT THE VETERANS BANNER HONOREES WANTED AS REQUESTED, HE FULFILLED THAT. AND HAVING A VETERAN BANNER PROGRAM IS PART ABOUT RECOGNIZING THAT HONORING VETERANS FOR THEIR, THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS IS ONE OF THE GOALS OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN. SO, UH, THE MIXING, MINGLING AND JOINED GREAT FOOD IN THE SERENE SETTING, AND THEN WE HAD A, UH, THEY TOOK THE FLAG DOWN WHILE WE WERE THERE. SO THAT WAS KIND OF AN UNEXPECTED MOMENT OF, OF REVERENCE, HAVE A LOT OF GRATITUDE, UH, TOWARD IT. SO, UM, I WENT TO SHOUT OUT TO ARI, CHAD VAR, YOU NEW COMMISSIONER, BUT THEY'RE FROM THE MINUTE TO HELP SET UP AND TEAR DOWN. AND, UM, I THOUGHT THAT'S GREAT CONTRIBUTION TO, UH, UH, MR. BEING PART OF THIS NEW THING. SO I JUST WENT, SHOUT THAT OUT. ALSO, SHOUT OUT GU WHEN WE, WHEN THERE WAS FUNDING WE SAW TO ANDERSON PIECE, HE, HE STEPPED UP. IT DIDN'T END UP HAPPENING, SAID HE DIDN'T END UP COVERING IT, BUT I JUST ALWAYS APPRECIATE JUST HAVING JOIE BOTH KEN WAS THERE, OF COURSE, AND, AND SPEAKING, JIM WAS THERE AS WELL. AND SO I JUST, I IT WAS BE, IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL EVENT. WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR ADAM. SO I JUST WANTED TO HAVE THAT GOOD NOTE TO BY ABOUT WITHOUT MY, THE REST OF MY REPORT WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED IS, IS, UH, AGAIN, I THINK WE HANDLED BY BEFORE, BUT, UH, THAT 2027 BUDGET REDUCES THE HOURS BY HOURS CONSIDERABLY AND ALLOCATE MONEY TOWARDS VETERANS MATTER PROGRAM, BUT NOT THE FUNDING TO SUPPORT STAFF TO ACTUALLY ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM IS, IS, IS OBVIOUSLY A, A TOUGH SITUATION. UM, [00:35:01] UM, QUICKLY ON MY REPORT, BUT THEN I'LL COME BACK TO IT ON FIVE MS. VETERANS DAY IS NUMBER SEVEN FOR HOW PARK ON LONG BEACH. AND, UH, THAT IS AN INDEPENDENTLY SUPPORTED EVENT. CITY FUNDS LIKE FIVE CITY EVENTS FROM DALE TO THE DAISY AVENUE PARADE TO MARTIN LUTHER , DAY TO BED STAY, THERE'S A FIFTH ONE I CAN'T REMEMBER, BUT THAT'S BUILT AND BAKE INTO THE BUDGET. AND, UM, SO WE'LL, WE'LL GET INTO THAT MORE QUICK, RIGHT? SO THAT MY , CAN I ASK A QUESTION? IT'S 13 HOURS A WEEK AND, YOU KNOW, TO SUPPORT BETTER STAY . WELL, THE, WHAT WE DO IS VALUE ADDED MEANING, BUT IT'S STILL, IT'S A LOT OF, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PICK TWO . UM, AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GET TO ITEM FIVE, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. MR. YOU COMMISSIONER HAR? YES. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. GOOD. AYE. COMMISSIONER HARLOW? YES, MR. REMICK? AYE. COMMISSIONER TECH COMMISSIONER VARGAS? YES. CHAIR OSBORN. QUESTION CARRIES RIGHT. MOTION A SECOND ON [3. 26-56160 Recommendation to approve the minutes for the Veterans Affairs Commission meeting of Wednesday, August 19, 2026.        Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] NUMBER THREE? MOTION. SECOND. MOTION A SECOND. JOHN. UM, ANY ADDITIONS TO THE MINUTES CHANGES? SUBJECT PUBLIC READY FOR ABOUT COMMISSIONER EARL? YES. THANK YOU GOODEN. AYE. MR. HARDMAN? YES. MR. SCHMICK. MOTION TECH? YES. MR. VARGAS? YES. CHAIR OMOND. MOTION CARRIES. ALRIGHT, AN ORDER. SO FIVE. MOTION [5. 26-56162 Recommendation to discuss planning and logistics for the 2026 Veterans Day event and consider options for Commission participation.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] SECOND. MOTION. SECOND. GREAT. SO I TURN, STAY UP AGAIN. SO 13 HOURS TO DO ALL THAT WE HAVE DONE IS, IS REALLY NOT BE POSSIBLE. THAT'S WHY I'M APPEALING TO YOU, TO YOU TO STEP UP EVEN POLICE TO ASSIST FIRST AND FOREMOST WITH THE VETERANS DAY EVENT BECAUSE WHAT HAS MADE IT SUCCESSFUL FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS IS THAT WE ARE HELPING WITH, IF, IF SPECIAL DENTIST JUST DID IT WITHOUT WORKING WITH THE VETERANS COMMUNITY, ME AND ALL OF YOU, IT WOULDN'T BE, IT WOULDN'T BE WELL ATTENDED BECAUSE WE'RE SPECIAL. WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT THAT FOOD TRUCK VENDOR IS A VETERANS MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, GUS THIS ORGANIZATION, UH, PURCHASE ITS VOUCHERS SO THAT THE VETERANS CAN HAVE BEEN DRINK THAT DAY. UM, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE ADMINISTERING THE RESOURCES FAIR, WHICH IS WHY THE VETERANS AID WASN'T FREE. THAT'S WHAT'S INVOLVED IN THE, ALONG WHICH VETERANS AID PARADE COMMITTEE IS THAT IT'S MORE SUCCESSFUL AS A STATIONARY EVENT. AND ONE WITH THAT OFFERED RESOURCES AND SERVICES TO VETERANS THROUGH THE VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS THAT SERVE. SO THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH SPECIAL NECESSARY IS, IS CRUCIAL TO THE SUCCESS. THEY DID THE SAME THING WITH . THEY WORK WITH COMMUNITY GROUPS AND THOSE ORGANIZATIONS TO ADD, WE HAVE THE OUTREACH TO THE VETERANS COMMITTEE, MAKING SURE IT GETS IN THE VA NEWSLETTER, MAKING SURE THERE'S POSTCARDS THAT GOES TO THE LIBRARIES, ET CETERA. SO WE HAVE A SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHIP. SO SINCE THIS IS HAPPENING AND UH, WHAT CAN WE DO THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE, THAT'S THE MOST EFFICIENT USE OF MY SHORT HOURS AND FINE. SO AS I, UH, SAID AT THE LAST MEETING, WHAT WE NEED HELP AND WHAT MIGHT BE CUT FROM THE PROGRAM IF, IF WE DON'T HAVE, HAVE CAPACITY FROM YOU IS, UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE RESOURCES FAIR, I THINK IS STILL A REALLY IMPORTANT CASE. AND, UM, MR. VARGAS GETTING A PLUG. AGAIN, GIVES THEM, HE AND I, HE'S TAKING A LEAD ROLE IN MANAGING THE RESOURCES FAIR. THAT MEANS REACHING OUT TO THE , WE CALL THEM VETERANS. THEY'RE NOT REALLY SELLING THINGS, BUT THE SERVICE RESOURCING SERVICE PROVIDERS, UH, THAT EITHER SPECIALIZE IN BENEFITS OR SERVE [00:40:01] A SERVE VETERANS POPULATION ALONG WITH OTHER POPULATION. SO NOW THAT WE HAVE A LEAD, BASICALLY WHO CAN STEP UP TO HELP WITH THE RESOURCES THERE, WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE? IT COULD BE SHOWING UP ON THE DAY OF THE DAY OF THE EVENT WITH CHECKING IN THE VENDORS, UH, MAKING SURE THEY'RE GOING TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO. IT COULD BE MAKING SURE WORKING WITH KEN USUALLY AROUND, UH, I WANNA SAY MATH, BUT I'M TRYING TO HOLD ANOTHER STEPS. THE, UM, PERSONS, PERSONS THE PERSON, THE, UM, WE HAVE OUR OWN TABLE OFFICE MEDICAL SUPPORT TABLE, AND WE, UH, ASK PEOPLE TO SIGN UP FOR THE NEWSLETTER AND WE OFFER, UM, WE CALL OPPORTUNITY DRAWING ITEMS. AND WE ALSO, UH, PUT THE POSTERS OF THE BANNER STUFF SO IT'S A REGULATED COMMUNICATE WITH VETERANS, ET CETERA. SO, UM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SAY, I, I WANNA BE PART OF THE RESOURCES FAIR FREE, RAISE YOUR HAND OR TALK TO CHAD. BUT I DEFINITELY DON'T WANNA WALK OUT OF THIS ROOM TONIGHT WITHOUT KNOWING THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE SUPPORT FOR JUST THAT RESOURCE DISPARITIES. THANK YOU, MICHELLE. AND, AND YOU'LL, YOU'LL GET A, YOU'LL GET A A NAME BADGE AT SOME POINT QUESTION. UM, SO BUDGET, AND WE, WE WON'T MEET BECAUSE WE'D BE OVER FOUR, BUT I'LL FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAINTAIN AN EMAIL OR GATHER A COUPLE OF YOU, UM, DON'T WANT LANGUAGE. SO THE NEXT RECOGNITION CEREMONY, UH, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, THAT STARTED UP A COUPLE YEARS AGO. IT IS, IT IS WHAT, WITHDRAWN, IT'S KIND OF MADE UP IN THE SENSE THAT WE, WE DON'T A WHOLE SEE, UH, YOU SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED, BUT WE GENERALLY GIVE OUT TOKENS FOR VETERAN VOLUNTEER OF THE YEAR, VETERAN ORGANIZATION OF THE YEAR. EACH WILL GIVE BACK OR THAT SIZE TO TWO, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT'S JUST A TOKEN GIFT AND A RECOGNITION OF SOMEONE WHO'S, UH, GIVEN BACK TO THE, TO, TO THE COMMUNITY WHO IS A VETERAN. SO, OR THE ORGANIZATION THAT HAS DONE OUTSTANDING SERVICES, SERVICE FOR VETERANS, ET CETERA. SO THE TASK HERE ARE IDENTIFYING THESE ARE, UM, FOR WORKING WITH GUS, WHO GETS THE TOKEN AWARDS, UM, INFORMING THE HONOREES OF THEIR SELECTION AND OBTAIN THEIR BIDS. AND, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THIS IS PLUG AND PLAY BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS A WHILE. SO WE HAVE A SUPER ALREADY, WE HAD AN MC LAST YEAR, WE MAY DO THAT MC AGAIN. BUT AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, THAT ONE OF YOU STEPS UP AND MANAGES AND I DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO DO, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE LITTLE PIECES, PARTS THAT WE THEN WE DON'T DO. UM, SO, AND AGAIN, I I WILL STILL BE OVERSEEING AND PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, HERE'S WHAT WE SENT OUT LAST YEAR AS FAR AS WE KNOW, JUST . SO AGAIN, DOES ANY 1, 1 2 1, 1 THING I WOULD SAY FIRST IS COULD YOU GIVE US A LIST OF PIECES? ALL OF THEM? YEAH. BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'RE ALL HOW WE VOLUNTEER. KNOW SOMEBODY SAYS YES TO EVERYTHING. OR IF THEY WANNA SAY YES TO ONE THING, BUT THEY WANNA SAY YES TO SOMETHING, THEY CAN DO THAT. WELL, I DON'T HAVE A LIST ON ME, BUT I I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. IT'S SPECIFIC. I'M JUST SAYING FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T BEEN HERE, WHAT ARE THE PIECES YOU'RE LOOKING, WHAT ARE ALL PIECES YOU'RE LOOKING FOR HELP FOR VIS, WELL, WITHIN THE, THE RECOGNITION CEREMONIES, AS I SAID, IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF TALKING ABOUT THAT RIGHT HERE. NOT, NOT THE RECOGNITION CEREMONY, TALKING THE WHOLE EVENT BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING EVENT YOU'RE PIECE BY PIECE. BUT THOSE ARE THE THREE MAIN PIECES. OKAY. THOSE ARE THE THREE? YES. OKAY. JUST HOW MANY THERE WERE RESOURCES. FAIR. THE RECOGNITION CEREMONY. AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE IS PROMOTING THE EVENT ITSELF BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DESIGNS THAT WILL UPGRADE FROM LAST YEAR. SO PROMOTION IS, PUT IT UP TO YOUR SOCIAL NETWORK IS, UH, DISTRIBUTING THE CARDS. I THINK YOU TOOK THE POSTCARDS TO THE VA LAST YEAR, IS REACHING OUT TO A, CONTACTED THE LIBRARY TO SAY, HEY, YOU'VE GOT CARDS READY FOR THE 12 LIBRARIES WHERE WE DROP 'EM OFF SO THAT THEY CAN GET DISTRIBUTED. THESE ARE ALL EMAILS AND CALLS. AND AGAIN, I WOULD DIRECT YOU, HERE'S WHO YOU TALK TO, MAKE THE CALL AND SAY, HEY. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE GET THE PRINT OUT POSTCARD, YOU COME AND STUFF, WHATEVER TO, TO THE LIBRARIES. SO IN OUR, WE'RE HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT POSSIBLY WORKING WITH THE BUREAU EL LOCATION. I THINK WE'RE, THE TIMINGS IS TOO CLOSE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL DOING OF IT VERSUS TRYING TO DO SOMETHING ELSE. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? [00:45:01] INSTEAD OF US TAKE TRYING TO GET 25,000 REALLOCATED WORKING WITH THE , THEIR EVENT, STILL DOING OUR EVENT. AND THAT'S HOW IT'S BUDGETED RIGHT NOW. AND I THINK IN REALITY, IF WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION THREE MONTHS AGO, MIGHT BE ABLE TO PULL OFF DEALING WITH TO MOCA'S OFFICE AND GETTING BU YOU KNOW, TEACHING THE BUDGET AND ALL THAT STUFF. IT SUCKS, BUT I THINK THAT'S A , I I I DON'T THINK TALK, TALKING TO MONIKA WILL HELP WITH THAT. I THINK FOR MAYBE FOR FY 28. YES, WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION EARLY SO THAT MAYBE THAT'S HOW THEY COUPLE THE CARDS AROUND A LITTLE BIT. BUT I THINK WE'RE, I THINK THIS SHOULD SAVED. I'D LIKE TO HAVE DONE IT, BUT I THINK THAT SHOULD I, I SENT LETTERS TO A NUMBER OFFICIALS AND I DID VERY LITTLE GOOD. YEAH. I SPOKE TWICE IN FRONT OF COUNCIL SUCH. OKAY. ANYONE WANT TO KEEP THE RECOGNITION CEREMONY GOING OR WALKER? JUST KEEP THIS GUY RIGHT HERE. ACTUALLY FIND SOMEBODY. THAT'S THE, THAT'S GONNA BE, AND THAT'S SOMETHING TO, IF YOU KNOW WHO, WHO MIGHT, UH, BE RECOGNIZ BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S VERY INFORMAL. MEANING THEY'RE A TOKEN GIFT. IT'S NOT A YEAH. A CEREMONY CAN I THINK. OKAY. KNOCKING ON YOUR DOOR. YES. I I, NO, I HAVE A QUESTION. OH, YES. . WHAT, WHEN YOU SAY WE'RE RECOGNIZING COMPANIES OR INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE VETERANS, THEY'RE PROVIDING SOME KIND OF SERVICE TO THE VETERANS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, RIGHT? HOW DO WE VALIDATE? WELL, LIKE I SAID, WE DON'T HAVE A SCIENTIFIC, LET'S JUST, WE'RE GONNA PUT IT OUT TO A VOTE OR WHATEVER. WE JUST KIND OF FED LIKE, YOU KNOW, SAY WE, WE'VE ONLY DONE FOUR RECENTLY. UM, INDIVIDUAL IN THE ORGANIZATION. DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT VOLUNTEER NOT PROFIT? YEAH. SO ESSENTIALLY, RIGHT, WE'RE SAYING INDIVIDUAL WHATEVER, WHATEVER A PROGRAM. WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING OR JUST FOR PARTICIPATING OR JUST FOR CASUAL METRICS? LET'S, LET'S TAKE MAMA J FOR EXAMPLE. SO IT'S MORE ABOUT J YEAH, YEAH. UH, MAMA J IS A, UH, LOCAL COMMUNITY LEADER WHO EVERY YEAR, UH, COLLECTS JACKETS FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL KIDS, UM, VETERAN. AND SO SHE HAS BEEN REALLY, UH, HOPEFULLY VETERAN COMMUNITY RECOGNIZED HER, WHETHER YOU AS A COMMUNITY VOLUNTEER THAT THAT HAS SOME VETERAN NEXT TO CITY. SO IT'S COMPLETELY SUBJECTIVE. SO IF YOU'VE FOUND SOMEONE LIKE YOU, YOU HAVE CONTEXT. LAST YEAR THE NONPROFIT IS AMERICAN GOLD STAR. AMERICAN GOLD STAR MANAGER. THAT'S RIGHT. VETERANS. YOU AS VETERANS KNOW THE, THE, THE SALI AND HARD WORKING PEOPLE THAT ARE GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. AND YOU CAN EVEN NOMINATE YOURSELF. I GOT A QUESTION. UH, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, IT'S INDIVIDUALS SPECIFICALLY OUTSIDE, WELL THEY, THEY COULD BE BASED SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT THEY HAVE AN IMPACT ON BEACH. LIKE IF IT'S AN LA ORGANIZATION, THE MAIN THING IS THAT THEY TOUCHED THE LONG BEACH COMMUNITY AND, AND EITHER THE COMMUNITY OR THE BENEFITS TEAM. OH, AND THAT'S TOUGH. MEMBER THE PEOPLE WE, THAT WORKS. PLEASE. I DIDN'T HAVE WE EVER HONORED THE PACIFIC VOUCHER SIGNED? NO, NO. FOR MAKING THE CASE. AND AGAIN, THIS IS ALL SYMBOLIC, IT'S CEREMONIAL, YOU KNOW, NO ONE'S GETTING A BIG FACT CHECKER GIVING HIM A GIFT. IT'S NOT LIKE A A DOLLAR, IT'S JUST NO, IT'S JUST A TOKEN. YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T STUFF PRINTED AT THE TROPHY SHOPPER. IT'S JUST A NICE, UH, ADD ON TO THE, TO THE EVENT IT PERSONALIZES IT FOR VETERAN. SO WE, WE ALSO, WE HAVE A LITTLE CHUNK OF MONEY THAT WE USE FROM THE OVERALL BUDGET TO LIKE PUT A, A FULL PAGE AD IN THE CEMETERY TOUR PROGRAM, UH, SOCIETY, UH, TO PAY FOR A FLYER TO PAY FOR AN MC, YOU KNOW, JUST BASIC COSTS THAT ADD THAT ADD TO BE BILL. SO I GOT A COUPLE OF NAMES HERE. THOSE OF YOU WOULD LIKE, LIKE TO HELP. AND AGAIN, EMAIL CONVERSATIONS IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THAT [00:50:01] YOU WANNA CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, BASIC TO BE INVOLVED. AND THEN EVENT PROMOTION IS THE, A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THIS. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS ON THE DAY OF THAT IT HAPPENS IN THE WEEKS LEADING UP TO THE EVENT. SO IF ANY OF, YOU KNOW, YOU WANNA STEP UP AND LAST EMAIL OR YOU KNOW, I'M GIVING YOU A LIST OR YOU HAVE YOUR OWN LIST, UM, OR FUNCTIONAL SOCIAL MEDIA. OKAY. AND, AND I, AND I'D LIKE TO ALSO, UM, PUT IN A PLUG FOR EACH OF US HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO REACH OUT TO OUR CITY AND TO GET THEIR STAFF THEM OR THEIR STAFF TO PARTICIPATE. WHETHER IT'S LETTER, UM, FIGURE AROUND THE DISTRICTS, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN BE VERY INSTRUMENTAL, AND BECAUSE WE REPRESENT THEIR DISTRICT, THEY SHOULDN'T BE PAYING ATTENTION. THEY ALL HAVE A NEWSLETTER. THEY ALL, ALL PUSH STUFF OUT, MAKING SURE, BECAUSE A LOT OF 'EM DIDN CLASSROOM. I REMEMBER LOOKING FOR IT JUST TO SEE THROUGH. SO IT'S ONE THING IF GINA SENDS IT OUT. YEAH, IT'S ANOTHER THING IF EACH INDIVIDUAL, EACH OF THE COUNSELORS SWITCH OUT . I FOUND OUT THAT IF IP SOMETIMES THEY WILL, THEY WILL TAKE MY SUGGESTION AND PUT IT IN THE . AND MR. JIM ACTUALLY IS A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE BECAUSE YOU SHOW UP AT, AT, UH, RESIDENTIAL, UM, WHAT, WHAT DO THEY CALL IT? LIKE THE ASSOCIATION MEETING ASSOCIATION MEETINGS TO AGENDA. YES. SO YOU CAN GET CREATIVE. THE BIG, THE BIG, THE MAIN THING IS YOU AS A VETERAN AND BEING PART OF THIS COMMISSION ARE PUTTING THE WORD OUT TO GET VETERANS TO SHOW UP. THERE'S SOCIAL MEDIA GUIDELINES. UM, WE, WE CREATE, USUALLY OUR PA LOGS WOULD CREATE THE GRAPHIC, GIVE A NUMBER. SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING IT'S PLUG AND PLAY AND YOU ARE ALLOWED TO CREATE YOUR OWN IMAGES FOR IT. UM, AND PROMOTE IT IN YOUR OWN PLACE. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, BECAUSE WE'RE DOING ON OUR OWN PERSONAL SOCIAL MEDIA RIGHT ON OWN 13 VIOLATE YOU. THEY CAN PROMOTE ON THE PRODUCT. IN THE PAST, THE OFFICE HAS COME UP WITH FLYERS AROUND NICE GUARD THE ORDER OF OPERATIONS. MAYBE THAT GETS PUSHED TO THE FRONT SO THEY'RE NOT SO THE CITY ATTORNEY SLASH EVERYBODY ELSE AND THEIR GRANDMOTHER APPROVES IT FOR NOT THE DAY BEFORE. SO I WOULDN'T INQUIRE BY YOUR OWN BECAUSE BEFORE WE USED TO BE RESTRICTED TO, YOU CAN'T DO ANY ADVERTISING UNTIL YOU RELEASE RELEASES OUT. NOW THAT THERE REALLY ISN'T MUCH OF A MEDIA LANDSCAPE IN LONG BEACH. UM, YOU CAN PROMOTE IT IN ADVANCE MEDIA EVENT WITHOUT THE, BEFORE THE RELEASE GOES OUT. IT JUST HAS TO BE VERY, UM, STILL HAS TO BE APPROVED INTERNALLY BY OUR PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICE IN HEALTH. BUT IT USED TO BE THAT YOU WERE ALLOWED TO START PROVIDING IT INDIVIDUALLY AS YOUR OWN ORGANIZATION, UH, WITHOUT A CITY LOGO ON IT AND OF YOUR OWN DESIGN BECAUSE THE PRESS RELEASE WILL TAKE SO LONG. SO THEY ALLOW YOU TO DO THAT BACK IN THE DAY. BUT I'LL, I'LL, I'LL CHECK ON WHAT, WHAT'S FOREVER. I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO USE THE SAME IMAGES BECAUSE IT'S BRAND RECOGNITION. SO IF SOMEONE SEES IT, IT'S FROM THE SAME, FROM PLACE TO PLACE. UM, I MEAN WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT'S PART OF THE FIRST THING THAT WE DO. MS. , FROM THE CLERK'S PERSPECTIVE, UM, AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT SPEAKING IN COMMENTS AND LIKING THE POSTS BETWEEN EACH OTHER, THEN YOU SHOULD BE FINE. 'CAUSE WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT, UH, ANY BROWN ACT VIOLATIONS AS FAR AS, UH, THE PERCEPTION OF YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT THE EVENT OUTSIDE OF THE, JUST KEEP YOUR COMMENTS AND KEEP YOUR LIKES TO, I THINK IF WE SEND IT OUT, IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE A PARTY AND YOU SEND OUT A LITTLE EMAIL, YOU SEND OUT AN EMAIL BEFORE YOU SAY SAVE THE DATE OR WHATEVER AND YOU GET IT OUT JUST WITHOUT GRAPHICS OR ANYTHING TO YOUR SPHERE OR YOUR FACEBOOK OR YOUR INSTAGRAM OR WHATEVER. THEN WHEN THE REAL ONE COMES OUT, YOU FOLLOW IT UP WITH THE SECOND ONE, WHICH IS THE OFFICIAL GRAPHIC WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SAVE THE DATE. WHAT DATE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? NOVEMBER 7TH. NOVEMBER 7TH. NOVEMBER WHAT? NOVEMBER. SEVENTH. SEVENTH. YEAH. WHICH IS COMING UP. REALLY? LET ME QUALIFY ONE THING. OKAY. FOUR, FOUR DAYS BEFORE. AS FAR AS THE RESOURCE FAIR IS [00:55:01] CONCERNED, UM, ALL THE WORK LEADING UP TO IT. I CAN DO, I'M ACTUALLY GONNA BE OUT OF TOWN , SO I'LL ACTUALLY, OH, LIKE SHE SAID, YOU COULD HAND IT OFF TO SOMEONE TO CHECK UP IN OR RIGHT. WHATEVER IT'S GONNA BE. BUT IF AS LONG AS IT'S DONE, GET THE HERE JUST EXECUTE. I THINK, DO WE HAVE A SIGNUP FOR READY FOR VENDORS? 'CAUSE UM, AFTER STANDOUT WAS COMING UP A VERY GOOD PLACE TO TRY. I THOUGHT IT WAS ALREADY DONE. END OF AUGUST, FRIDAY. I DOES ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, FIND THE COMMENT PERCENTAGE? YOU'RE SAYING IF YOU HAVE PAGE FLYER, UH, BY SAYING THAT WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO RECRUIT, GIVE THE TABLE FOR OUR THAT'S, SORRY. I SAY THANK YOU GAVE OH LAST. OH YEAH, YEAH. I JUST LOST, THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. YEAH. FIRST 6 20 26. 2 28. YEAH. YEAH. SEPTEMBER AND I'LL THAT'S NEXT WEEK. YEAH. WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO, MAYBE IT'S A PHONE CALL WITH STANDARD. ASK FOR A COPY OF THEIR LIST TO THEM. POC. GOOD IDEA. AND I'M SURE THEY'RE, NO, YOU CAN'T NOT COMPETING WITH . THEN YOU CAN SHARE IT WITH GINA'S LIST AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY NEW FACES, OLD FACES IS GONE, WHATEVER. AND SEEMS CHIN UP TO SHOW UP FOR OURS. BUT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE COMPETITION. THERE WILL BE OTHER VETERANS DAY EVENTS ON THAT SAME DAY THAT WE CAN BE COMPETING AGAINST THAT MAYBE ALREADY BE LY OR SOMEBODY ELSE. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANNA JUST ALSO REMIND YOU IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE, IT'S ABOUT QUALITY, NOT C YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE WHATEVER. SO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WE GET IS WHAT WE GET, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE MORE VENDORS, THE MORE IT'S HERE'S YOUR INSTRUCTION PART, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THEY GET BENT OUTTA SHAPE IF YOU DIDN'T PROVIDE 'EM WITH, WHEN YOU TOLD THEM IF YOU NEED A TENT. YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S THOSE KIND OF DETAILS THAT CAN DRIVE YOU CRAZY. SO LESS, LESS LARGE AND MORE QUALITY. IT IS, YEAH. ONCE WE SEE THE LIST YOU CAN SAY, OKAY, LET'S HERE'S THE, HERE THEY ARE PRIORITIZED ONE TO 20. WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THIS ONE FIRST AND THEN WORK YOUR WAY DOWN THE LIST IS IF THERE'S SOME THAT JUST, WE DON'T REALLY DON'T REALLY MATCH UP, BUT WE'VE GOT AN FROM PRO CAP BIKE COVERAGE, WE USE THEM AS A FILL IT. WE DON'T GET ENOUGH. YEAH, WELL I HAVE TO SAY ONE OF THE WORST CARS CT LAST MINUTES PLEASE. ROOM FOR ME IS THE CITY ITSELF. SO ANYBODY WHO VOTED AGAINST THIS DOES DOCUMENT SPEAK. THEY'RE NOT INVITED ON STAGE. OKAY. UH, PUBLIC. YES. SO, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF BACKSTORY AND WE CAN CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION OFFLINE AS WELL. UM, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO HELP WITH THE, THE VETERAN DAY CELEBRATION, BUT, UH, THE VETERAN STATE PARADE INITIALLY STARTED IN EARLY TWO THOUSANDS AND BECAME A NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION OUTSIDE ITSELF OR OUTSIDE THE CITY. UH, IN THE, I'M SAY IN THE 2006, 2008. UM, WHEN THEN FORMER VICE MAYOR VAL LURCH CREATED THE NON-PROFIT SO THAT THERE WAS AN OUTSIDE ORGANIZATION WHO MOVED OUTSIDE OF THE CITY THAT WOULD HELP ORGANIZE IT, UM, THROUGH COVID. WE HAD ISSUES, UH, I, AND I WASN'T GONNA SAY IT UP UNTIL, UH, WE STOPPED HAVING IT IN 2019, UH, OR 2020. UH, COVID REALLY TOOK, UH, ITS WHOLE ON GRADES, ESPECIALLY FOR VETERANS DAY PARADE. UM, SO AFTER THAT WE PUT A CELEBRATION MODEL, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, UM, WHICH HAS BEEN HELD IN THE NINTH DISTRICT EVER SINCE THE VETERANS DAY PARADE STARTED 30, SOME 30 YEARS AGO, BASICALLY. SO, UH, IN THE CONVERSATION WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HANDING THEM SOME MONEY OVER TO THE VA OF LONG BEACH, THAT'S GONNA BE A REALLY TOUGH CONVERSATION BECAUSE FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY KNOW IT TO BE IN NORTH LONG BEACH. AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND OTHER COMMUNITY LEADERS ARE GONNA WANT TO KEEP IT KIND OF AS IT IS, EVEN IF IT IS AN EVENT THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY HOW STRUGGLED. UM, ESPECIALLY WITH THE VA EVENTS. VA EVENTS [01:00:01] ARE GENERALLY ONLY OPEN TO VETERANS OR YOU KNOW, VA PATIENTS. SO THAT'S ALSO GONNA BE A REALLY HARD CONVERSATION. UM, THAT IS PROBABLY GONNA TAKE MONTHS IF NOT YEARS, TO COORDINATE SOMETHING BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE VA. UH, I WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT. UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS THE, THE VETERAN'S DAY ORGANIZATION THAT, UM, I WAS THE PRESIDENT OF UP UNTIL VERY RECENTLY, WE ACTUALLY SHUT DOWN THE ORGANIZATION. WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY, UH, STILL IN RESERVES AND GENERALLY WHAT WE USE THAT MONEY FOR IS FOR THE BEER GARDENS, FOOD. UM, AND IN THE PAST WE'VE HELPED WITH THE FLYOVER. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S STILL A CONVERSATION THAT KIND OF GOES BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN, UH, US AS THE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION AND THE SPECIAL EVENTS. SO, UH, WHATEVER COMES OF THIS OR OF, YOU KNOW, THIS EVENT FOR THE FUTURE YEARS, I'M HAPPY TO BE ENGAGED AND INVOLVED AS MUCH AS THE COMMISSION NEEDS IT. UM, AND YOU KNOW, UH, ESPECIALLY FOR A LOT OF THOSE IN-DEPTH CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING HERE, THIS SHOULD REALLY BE HAPPENING AT THAT COMMITTEE LEVEL, AT THE AD HOC LEVEL BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT RESTRICTED TO TIME AS MUCH AS YOU ARE HERE IN THESE COMMISSIONS. SO I LOVE THE DISCUSSION. UM, MAKE SURE THAT YOU FORM ONE OF THOSE AD HOC COMMITTEES SO THAT YOU CAN REALLY DIVE DEEP INTO A LOT OF THAT NUANCE STUFF AND, AND TALK, YOU KNOW, UM, ABOUT SOME OF THE STUFF THAT GENERALLY YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO WHEN YOU'RE IN A FULL QUORUM MEETING. UM, BASICALLY . OH, ALRIGHT. YOU READY? UH, COMMISSIONER EARL, DO WE THEN NEED TO FORM A VETERANS COMMITTEE COMMITTEE? WE SORT OF HAVE ONE, ONE FORM WHO'S ON? I HAVE LOOK, MY NOTES. YOU PULLED IT OUT. YEAH. RESIDENT'S. AN AGENDA ITEM, NOT YEAH, ONE ON THE BACK SIDE. , WE VOTE ON THIS AND YEAH, IF YOU WANNA VOTE ON IT AND THEN I CAN HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR THE AD HOC DISCUSSION. OR WE CAN WAIT BEFORE WE WE VOTE. I WANT TO CLARITY ON, WE'RE GONNA, DO WE NEED TO TALK TO THE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER ABOUT ANY OF THE LETTERS, THE WORDAGE VERBIAGE, SOCIAL MEDIA GUIDELINES, WHAT CAN, WE CAN TALK POST, RIGHT? OR ARE WE JUST FREE AND CLEAR? SO I THINK THERE'S TWO PARTS RIGHT NOW. YOU CAN ALREADY DO THE SAVE THE DATE TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS, GONNA MAKE COLLEAGUES, ALL OF THAT. THE GRAPHICS AND THE ACTUAL LIKE OFFICIAL POSTCARD AND ALL THAT STUFF WILL COME FROM THE CITY WITH APPROVED. LIKE THIS IS WHAT'S GOING OUT TO AND THAT WILL COME. BANNERS IS BROUGHT. IT JUST ONLY BE SIMILAR TO LAST YEAR'S. I WASN'T HERE LAST YEAR, SO NO, I'M SAYING THE ALREADY EXISTS. OKAY. WE JUST HAVE TO UPDATE IT AND HAVE NEW EYES ON IT AND IT SHOULDN'T TAKE THAT LONG BECAUSE IT EXISTS. HOW MUCH TIME FRAMES WILL WE GET BE ONCE WE GET THE INFORMATION BEFORE THE EVENT? IS IT LIKE, ARE WE TALKING A MONTH OR TWO MONTHS OR IT'S ALWAYS, WE TRY TO HAVE AS MUCH PART TIME AS POSSIBLE. UM, WE SHOULD HAVE, LET'S SEE, IT IS NOVEMBER, OCTOBER IS ONE, TWO WEEKS PROBABLY SIX WEEKS. WE'RE GONNA GET THE, YOU SHOULD GET IT. UH, HOPEFULLY. BUT YOU'RE SPOUSE SIX WEEKS AHEAD AND YOU CAN SEND OUT JUST EMAIL SAVE DATE TO YOUR PROBABLY YEAH. SIX WEEKS AHEAD. IT'S NORMALLY A COPY AMOUNT, RIGHT? I THINK THE DIFFERENCE THIS YEAR IS THAT BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY SEEN EVERYTHING, IT FLIES THROUGH THE SYSTEM MORE QUICKLY THAN IF WE FIN IT AND HAS TO START OVER FROM ZERO. AND WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE THAT WE HAVE PAO TEAM WITHIN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. SO WE'RE NOT AS, IT'S GOTTA GO THROUGH CITY MANAGERS AND P THE CITY AND ALL THAT. SO WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE FREEDOM BECAUSE WE'RE JUST PLUGGING 'CAUSE SHE'S SAID WHAT'S BEEN DONE. ADMIN THEN TO FOLLOW UP, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE 2026 VETERANS DAY EVENT AD HOC ARE VICE CHAIR ATKINS LEG COMMISSIONER EARL, COMMISSIONER HARDIMAN AND COMMISSIONER SHANIK. YOU READY FOR BOTH LONG OR NOT? SO THAT'S THE, WE HAVEN'T HAD AN AD HOC COMMITTEE YET, BUT I WILL SCHEDULE IT FOR NEXT WEEK. UM, BUT I'M ALSO ASKING YOU INDIVIDUALLY, INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATIONS, NOT BROWN ACT VIOLATIONS TO STEP UP. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR. ALRIGHT. COMMISSIONER EARL? YES. COMMISSIONER GOODIN? YES. COMMISSIONER HARDIMAN? YES. COMMISSIONER CHAIR MIX. COMMISSIONER TUCK? AYE. COMMISSIONER VARGAS? YES. CHAIR. HAR. I STATE MR. . . I WOULD PREFER THAT YOU DID THIS ? [01:05:01] YES. THANK YOU SIR. MOTION CARRIES ALL. ALL RIGHT. NUMBER [6. 26-56168 Recommendation to discuss the Commission’s end-of-year celebration, including logistics and event details, and provide direction among the Commission as needed.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] SIX. MOTION IS SECOND. MOTION WAS THE SECOND BY I SECOND. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THIS IS ABOUT, AND WE USUALLY HAVE AN END OF YEAR, SO WE'RE READ IT UP. UM, MY QUESTION, DISCUSS THE COMMISSIONS END OF YEAR CELEBRATION INCLUDING LOGISTICS, EVENT DETAILS. BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO TABLE THIS. WE SHOULD'VE DONE THAT IN THE BEGINNING. OKAY. BUT, UM, BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT, WHAT ONE BUDGET AND ALL THAT. SO, AND IF YOU WANNA TABLE IT, THEN WE CAN'T HAVE A DISCUSSION ON IT. YEAH, I THINK WE'LL TABLE TILL NEXT MONTH DOESN'T HAVE TO BE VOTED ON. IT DOES. OH IT DOES. YEAH. BUT BECAUSE THAT'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO TABLE IT. THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE CAN TALK ABOUT IS TABLE, LIKE THE . YOU OKAY WITH THAT? I'M OKAY. AND ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER EARL? YES. COMMISSIONER GOODEN? YES. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER HARDIMAN? YES. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SHERMAN? YES. COMMISSIONER TED? YES. COMMISSIONER VARS? YES. THANK YOU. CHAIR ? YEP. MOTION CARRIE? ALL. UM, NUMBER SEVEN. [7. 26-56169 Recommendation to receive and file a report from current Ad Hoc Committees; discuss anticipated Ad Hoc Committees for upcoming projects; and, if appropriate, take action to dissolve or create Ad Hoc Committees.        Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] MOTION. AND A SECOND. MOTION SECOND. IT WAS EARL AND VARGAS, CORRECT? YES. THANK THIS IS JUST TALKING ABOUT, UM, RETIRING ANY AD HOC COMMITTEES AND FUTURE AD HOC COMMITTEES. AND RIGHT NOW THE ONLY AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT WOULD BE SUN WOULD BE THE CURRENT BANNERS COMMITTEE WAS HELD OVER OR THE END OF BEING CELEBRATION. WE JUST HAD I THINK DIDN'T, I WAS LIKE, DIDN'T YOU ALREADY SOLVE IT? MAYBE WE JUST, I CAN DOUBLE CHECK. SO CHECK, BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE HELD IT ON OUR ONE ONE IN CASE WE NEEDED INFERRED FOR BANNERS. NOW THAT THE FINAL PIECE OF IT'S DONE. YEAH, I DON'T SEE THAT WE DISSOLVED WITH THAT ONE, BUT WE DID DISSOLVE THE 2026 MEMORIAL AND DAY OF ACCIDENT. SO ONLY REALLY ONLY REAL ONE WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH IS THAT. SO IN THAT SECTION WE'RE GONNA SUGGEST WE SUNSET THAT COMMITTEE AND WE'LL REFORMAT IN THE BEGINNING OF THAT. WE REFORMAT IN THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR. UM, I'M GONNA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT THAT, THAT WE ONE MORE TIME TO DEBRIEF ON IT. SINCE STUDENTS IS GONNA TO HAVE AS MUCH TIME TO INFORM SO THAT THERE, THAT THERE'S, YOU COLLECT INFORMATION ON WHAT, WELL, WHAT DIDN'T GO WELL, WHAT NEEDS TO, IT'S A PIECE OF NEED THAT HAPPEN FOR NEXT YEAR. UM, LESSONS LEARNED. GOOD IDEA. SO WE HAVE NOTHING AT THIS POINT, SO NO VOTE NECESSARY. WE SHOULD, SHOULD STILL VOTE ON IT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GET PUBLIC INPUT. IF ANY OTHER, YOU GONNA TALK ABOUT THE OTHER, OTHER COMMITTEES? THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO REPORT A YOU WOULD LIKE TO OR HAVE A DISCUSSION? WELL, IT'S JUST THE OTHER AD AD HOC COMMITTEE, WHICH IS THE VETERAN. SAY, UM, AGAIN, BECAUSE WE'RE ALL GONNA HAVE TO BE INVOLVED SO MUCH IN THESE, WHAT IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE MULTIPLE AD HOC COMMITTEES BASED ON THE FUNCTIONAL AREA THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. SO AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR, FOR THE, UM, MEETING EVENT PROMOTIONS FOR THE, FOR THE RECOGNITION EVENT AND FOR, UM, FOR ALL SET. AND THEN HAVE CHAIR PERSONS THAT THINGS CAN MEET TOGETHER BECAUSE WE'RE ALL GONNA BE INVOLVED. THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN TALK TO EACH OTHER WITHOUT VIOLATING THE PROBLEM IF WE, IF THERE ARE TOO MANY OF US. SO I'M WONDERING IF WE NEED TO HAVE MORE AD HOC COMMITTEES BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH COORDINATION. YEAH, WE'RE GONNA, YES, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO DO SOMETHING TOGETHER. IF WE CANNOT TALK TO EACH OTHER, I WOULD JUST LIMIT THE NUMBER OF THEM THAT YOU HAVE. UM, ALSO WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DESIGNATE SHARE TO SPEAK WITH EACH OTHER. UM, WE WOULD REPORT OUT DURING THE COMMISSION MEETING THAT, SO WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS AN IS AN EXECUTIVE AD HOC COMMITTEE AND, AND THEN SEPARATE SMALLER COMMITTEES. UM, AND THE AD HOC WOULD BE AN EXECUTIVE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON THE VETERAN'S DAY. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SUGGESTING. AND YEAH, MAYBE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AS, AS CUT UP AS THAT, BUT I THINK WE BE REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT [01:10:01] THE FACT THAT BEING ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER WHEN IT'S HOW MANY IS IT? IS IT MORE THAN TWO? MORE THAN THREE? THE CITY ATTORNEY ADVISES THREE FOR THE ENTIRE, UH, MEETING, BUT CURRENTLY WE ONLY HAVE, WE TECHNICALLY HAVE TWO, BUT WE'LL DISSOLVE ONE. OH BANNERS WON'T DISSOLVE TILL NEXT MONTH. RIGHT. SO WE HAVE ONE WOULD BE, WE ALREADY HAVE THAT ONE SO WE CAN HAVE ONE. SO AS LONG AS WE HAVE LESS THAN, AS LONG AS WE HAVE THREE OR FEWER VOLUNTEERS PER KIND OF FUNCTIONAL GROUP FOR THE VETERANS COMMITTEE, THEN WE'LL BE OKAY. YEAH, WE CAN BEAT THAT POINT. IF YOUR BE FOUR, I MEAN IT MAKES ME A LITTLE WEARY. I FEEL LIKE WE WOULD NEED THE CITY ATTORNEY'S WEIGH IN ON THAT. UM, SO WHAT I WOULD SAY IS WE'VE GOTTA, SHE'LL GIVE US AN EMAIL UP THAT SAYS WHO'S DOING WHAT. HERE'S YOUR, HERE'S WHO SAID THEY'LL DO WHAT. AND THEN THOSE THREE, TWO OR THREE PEOPLE WHATEVER NEED TO GET TOGETHER DURING THE MONTH TO GET EVERYTHING TOGETHER DURING THE MONTH, HAVE THE DISCUSSION OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IN THOSE FUNCTIONAL AREAS. YEAH, BECAUSE THERE WERE, THERE WERE, THERE WERE FOUR OF US TALKING ABOUT THE VETS RESOURCE FAIR. THAT'S UNDER A FORUM. FIVE IS FORUM. SO IF IT'S OUR, OUR CORE, HERE'S ONE FOR THE NEW PEOPLE. OUR FORUM RULES ARE WEIRD. HERE IT IS. THE IT IS 50% PLUS ONE OF THE POSSIBLE MEMBERS. YEAH. NOT THE CURRENT MEMBERS. OUR QUORUM IS FIVE. ALWAYS FIVE. ALWAYS FIVE. BUT WE LEARNED THAT THE HARD WAY. OKAY. WE LOST EVERYONE AND THAT'S ALL. SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE YEAH, YEAH. WE HAVE, WE HAVE SOME LEVEL OF FREEDOM TO, TO, YEAH. YEAH. NO, THAT'S A GOOD SORT. DID YOU HAVE SUBS OF THE AD HOC OVERALL OR TOO COMPLICATED? I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK IT'S A SUB OF THE AD HOC. I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE ITS OWN AD HOC AND AD HOC COMMITTEES TO DISCUSS THE VETERANS SAY LOGISTICS AND AD HOC COMMITTEE TO DISCUSS THE YES. HAVING MULTIPLE COMMITTEES IS, YOU KNOW, MAKES THE ERROR. YEAH. YEAH. AND THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS ADVISED NOT TO DO TOO MANY SUBCOMMITTEES FOR AD HOCS. THAT'S GOOD. WELL, I, I APPRECIATE THAT THOUGH. I, IT SEE, SEEMS THAT BE PROVEN SINCE WE HAVE ONLY ALSO A FEW MORE WEEKS. BUT I WILL SET UP THESE, THESE MEETINGS, UM, WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK. WE CAN JUST, YES. AND JUST BE AWARE OF LIKE HUB AND SPOKE. LIKE IF ONE PERSON IS THE, UH, COMMUNICATOR TO EVERYBODY OR IF THERE'S A DAISY CHAIN OF COMMUNICATION, JUST KEEP THOSE THINGS IN MIND AND HAVING DISCUSSIONS, WE'LL JUST CREATE A LEAD FOR EACH AFFECTION AND THAT LEAD, YOU KNOW, JUST TO BE, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE CONVERSATION WHEN WE HAVE THE, THE PHONE CONVERSATIONS IN EACH GROUP TO KIND OF BE THE PERSON WHO LEADS THAT LITTLE PIECE OF THE COMMUNICATION. AND IN THE FIRST CALL WE SET UP WHO IS WILL DECIDE, EACH GROUP CAN DECIDE WHO'S GONNA BE THE, THE LEAD KNOW, LIKE YOUR LEAD, YOUR IS IN GENERAL YOU VETERANS RESOURCE OR YOU'RE THE LEAD OF THAT. AND THEN THERE'LL BE A LEAD OF THE . UM, AND WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS FORWARDING THAT WHAT IS DISCUSSED IN AN EMAIL TO STAFF AND THEN STAFF CAN DISTRIBUTE THAT INFORMATION RATHER THAN MEETING WITH EACH OTHER AND TALK ABOUT IT. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. 'CAUSE SORRY. SURE. IT GETS DONE. NO, BECAUSE WE CAN'T COMMUNICATE TO EACH OTHER OUTSIDE OF HERE. CAN'T WAIT. YOU BASED ON, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT THE COURT. AS LONG AS, AS LONG AS IT'S IN THE COURT. YEAH. RIGHT. YES. AND AS LONG AS ONE OF YOU IS NOT PASSING INFORMATION ALONG TO THE OTHER PERSON ABOUT WHAT YOU DISCUSSED. SO IT CAN JUST BE A CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU AND NOT INCLUDE EVERYBODY ELSE UP TO FOUR . SO DOES THE CURRENT AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR VETERANS DAY NEED TO CHANGE THIS NAME OR NO. ESTABLISH HOW NO, NO. WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE NOT CALLING, WE'RE NOT MAKING, CREATING ADDITIONAL COMMITTEES AS I UNDERSTAND IT. WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS ON EMAIL WITH CHAD BEING THE LEAD, UH, WITH THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WANNA BE INVOLVED WITH THE RESOURCES FAIR. I DON'T BE THE LEAD ON THE RECOGNITION CEREMONY. CARLOS AND RELLE STEPPED OUT. AND THEN EVENT PROMOTION, I THINK IT WAS CARLOS. WAS IT ALSO TO EACH OTHER FOR THAT PROMOTION? YEAH. NO, I THINK IT'S JUST ME. DID I HAVE A SECOND? NO, IT'S OKAY. IT'S JUST US TWO. YEAH. OKAY. . EACH ONE OF US IS BE RESPONSIBLE. I'LL READ THE SUB MESSAGE WITH A, B, C TO EVERYBODY AND SAY, YEAH, THAT'S HOW WE'RE GONNA HANDLE IT INSTEAD OF CREATE A BUNCH OF OTHER, YEAH. [01:15:01] AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO, UH, CHANGE THE STR LIKE WHO IS INVOLVED IN THE VETERAN'S DAY AD HOC COMMITTEE, UH, EVENT, AD HOC COMMITTEE, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO NOW IF WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. SO COMMISSIONER VARGAS, YOU'RE NOT ON THE AD HOC, RIGHT? SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANNA BE INCLUDED ON, SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE TO STEP DOWN AND THEN WE CAN PUT YOU IN BECAUSE THERE'S R BEFORE ON THE AD HOC AND THEN AD HOC COMMITTEE WAS ANTOINETTE, ROCHELLE, NICK, AND EARL. YES. I SAID WE CAN'T YESTERDAY TWICE. I THINK IT IS. I THINK THAT'D BE PRUDENT IS SHE'S JUST NOT HAD TIME. AND THAT'S, BUT SHE'S NOT, THAT'S NO, I'M JUST SAYING SHE HAS NOT HAD TIME. THAT'S REAL. THAT'S REALITY. SHE HAS FOR THE EVENT BECAUSE ONE OF HER BANNER HONORS. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS A OR A OR WELL, WE, WE CAN, AS A COMMISSION, WE CAN MOVE ROPE ON OUR TENANTS HERE AT . THEY CAN'T. NO. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A GOOD LOOK. BUT YOU CAN'T DO YOU WANNA MAKE A PROPOSAL TO, WELL, AS THE MAKER OF THE MOTION COMMISSIONER EARL, DO YOU APPROVE OF REMOVING COMMISSIONER, EXCUSE ME, VICE CHAIR ATKINS, LA FROM THE VETERAN STATE EVENT AD HOC COMMITTEE? NO. UH, ALL I SAY IS THIS, IF IT COMES TO THAT ABOUT, UH, BEING INVOLVED AND TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE OUT, UM, I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO HELP OUT EVERY WAY I CAN, WHICH I ALWAYS DO ANYWAY. MM-HMM . JUST, AND JUST KIND, JUST MOVING MOTION IF IT, IF IT NEEDS FOR, UH, ANY OTHER OTHERS THAT MAY WANT TO BE IN, I'LL TAKE A STEP BACK BECAUSE I'M GONNA STILL BE INVOLVED JUST AS MUCH. SO I'LL JUST LET THAT OUT. YOU WOULD BE A VOLUNTEER VERSUS AN AD HOC, AD HOC COMMITTEE MEMBER. YEAH. AND THEN THE COMMUNICATION WOULD JUST HAVE TO BE DIRECTLY TO STAFF. IF YOU RIGHT AT THAT TIME, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO USE ME. YEAH. I I'LL BE MORE OPEN TO BE ABLE TO GET A LOT OF OTHER STUFF GOING. YEAH, FINE. YEAH. I, I DON'T KNOW BERNIE DESIRE TO BE HONEST ON THAT. TOTALLY. YOU ALMOST HAVE, IN THIS CASE, IT MIGHT BE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THESE SUBGROUPS THAN THE OVERALL. SO ARE WE MAKING ANY AMENDMENT TO THE, OR EXCUSE ME, A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION TO INCLUDE OR REMOVE ANYBODY OR WE PASS THAT? I THINK WE'LL MAKE IT WORK. OKAY. MAKE IT WORK. AND THAT COMMISSIONER COULD DECIDE ON THEIR OWN TO SAY, I DON'T WANNA BE PART MAKE IT, I STAND. BUT THEN WE'D HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER MONTH TO APPOINT. MONTH AT THIS POINT IS ALMOST, WE DON'T GET THE EVENT. YEP. IT'LL BE OVER BY THEN. OKAY. SO WE'RE NOT REALLY GONNA CHANGE ANYTHING AT THIS POINT. SO THAT'S OUR VOTE. WE'RE NOT REALLY GONNA CHANGE ANYTHING. AND DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC INPUT FROM THE ITEM? ANY PUBLIC INPUT? I'M NOT CHANGING ANYTHING. . , THANK YOU. AND I'LL TAKE THE BOOK. COMMISSIONER EARL? YES. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GOODIN? YES. COMMISSIONER HARLOW? YES. COMMISSIONER SCHICK? YES. COMMISSIONER TECH? YES. COMMISSIONER VARGAS? YES. CHAIR ? YEP. CARES. ALRIGHT GUYS, YOU GOT ANYTHING ELSE FOR [PUBLIC COMMENT Opportunity to address the Veterans Affairs Commission on non-agenda items. Each speaker is limited to three minutes to make their comments unless extended by the Chair.] US? STATE PEACE. ALRIGHT. NO PUBLIC COMMENTS. ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? [ANNOUNCEMENTS] ANNOUNCEMENTS? HEARING NONE. UR [ADJOURNMENT] A. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.