* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. SO, GOOD MORNING. [00:00:01] I'D LIKE TO CALL THE PER COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER AND WELCOME ALL OF YOU HERE AS WELL. SO, CAN WE DO A ROLL CALL FIRST [ROLL CALL] PLEASE? DEBORAH CASTRO. PRESENT. NICKY CLAIRE. PRESENT. JEFFREY KAZAR. PRESENT. HEATHER DUNCAN. MICHAEL JENSEN. FEAR. KENDRA MILLER. HERE. . EXCELLENT. GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL. SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS JUST, UH, BRIEFLY WELCOME OUR NEW COMMISSIONER, HARRIS COMMISSIONER CLAIRE COMMISSIONER, AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. UM, AND BONNIE SERVE, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF OUR CIVIC DUTY THAT WE'RE HERE AS VOLUNTEERS BECAUSE WE CAN. SO LET'S GET STARTED ON THE AGENDA. AND THE FIRST ITEM [1. 26-55867 Recommendation to approve the minutes for the Belmont Shore Parking and Business Improvement Area Advisory Commission meeting of Thursday, June 18, 2026.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] IS RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES WITH BEL RUSHWORTH WORKING A BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT AREA ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING, UH, A THURSDAY, JUNE 18TH, 2026. MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO BE SO I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ? OKAY, THAT WAS COMMISSIONER JENSEN MADE MOTION. COMMISSIONER CLAIRE'S SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONERS. DO YOU HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS FOR COUNCIL LI CAN I JUST ASK THE QUESTION? I'M SO SORRY. UM, IS IT JUST STANDARD WHERE IT JUST SAYS SO AND SO SPOKE? SO AND SO SPOKE WITHOUT ANY DESCRIPTION ON WHAT THEY SAID? YES. OKAY. YEAH. THINK THAT'S WHAT IT SAID. UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'LL NOW TAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE MINUTES. ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE STAND UP. OKAY. HEARING THAT, THAT THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENTS, HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MINUTES? ALL RIGHT. CAN WE, UH, AFFIRM, UH, OR VOTE FOR THE, THE RECOMMENDATION? CAN I HAVE ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE IF I MAY? AYE. MAY I JUST DO A ROLL CALL? VOTE PLEASE. THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS SUGGESTED THAT WE DO THOSE JUST TO BE OH, OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER CLAIRE HERE. UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? YES. THANK YOU. UH, COMMISSIONER COZA? YES. AYE. THANK YOU. UH, COMMISSIONER JENSEN JENSEN HERE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OR APPROVE YOU? MUCH APPRECIATED. UH, COMMISSIONER MILLER, APPROVE. THANK YOU. AND, UH, CHAIR CASTER APPROVE. THANK YOU. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. OKAY, SECOND AGENDA ITEM [2. 26-56173 Recommendation to receive and file a Long Beach Public Works financial report discussing revenues during the period ending August 31, 2026.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE A FILE OF LONG BEACH PUBLIC WORKS' FINANCIAL REPORT DISCUSSING REVENUES AT THE PERIOD ENDING AUGUST 31ST, 2026. MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THIS ITEM? MOTION? I'M SORRY, MAY WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND MAY WE HAVE TO REPORT? PLEASE, IF EVERYONE COULD PLEASE TURN THE PAGE 10 ON THE PACKET TITLED MONTOUR PARKING METER FUND SUMMARY. I'M JUST GONNA GO OVER THE, THE PURPOSE AND THE ASSUMPTION RISK BEFORE WE DISCUSS REVENUES. UM, THIS IS A FUND SUMMARY FOR REVENUES DURING AUGUST, 2026. THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO SHOW REVENUES FOR THE BELMONT PARKING METER FUND. THE BELMONT PARKING METER FUND WAS ESTABLISHED BY CITY COUNCIL ORDINANCE C DASH 61 9 TO RECEIVE PARKING REVENUES IN THE VOLUNT SHORE AREA. EXPENDITURES FROM THE FUND PER CITY COUNCIL ORDINANCE ZERO EIGHT DASH 0 0 1 2 ARE LIMITED TO USES, WHICH ARE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE VOLUNT SHORE PARKING AND BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT AREA. THIS INCLUDES ACQUISITION, CONSTRUCTION IMPROVEMENT, OPERATION OR MAINTENANCE OF THE CITY, PARKING FACILITIES, FIXTURES, AND EQUIPMENT, AS WELL AS IMPROVEMENTS TO AND EQUIPMENT FOR PUBLIC STREETS, ALLEYS, CURBS, GUTTERS, SIDEWALKS, AND THE BUS BUS PROGRAM. REVENUE ON THIS FUND IS EXCLUSIVELY FROM THE PARKING METER FEES IN THE BRA TROY AREA OF THE CITY. THE FIRST $200,000 IN REVENUE IS PLEDGED TO REPAY DEBT SERVICE AND ASSOCIATED COSTS IN THE COMMUNITY FACILITIES DISTRICT 2007 DASH TWO. AND THE BELMONT BOARD REVENUES FOR AUGUST, 2026 WERE UP 38% VERSUS LAST FISCAL YEAR. OUR YEAR TO DATE ACTUAL REVENUE IS THAT 39% VERSUS LAST FISCAL YEAR. THE DIFFERENCE, THE, THE SUCH HIGH DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS YEAR AND LAST YEAR IS BECAUSE ON OCTOBER 1ST, 2025, WE HAD, UM, INCREASED THE METER FEES FROM $2 TO $3. [00:05:01] AND IN DOING SO, YOU CAN SEE A SIGNIFICANT JUMP IN REVENUE. AND THEN, UH, I'D LIKE EVERYONE TO MOVE TO THE NEXT PAGE, PAGE ON . THIS IS, UH, THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 ESTIMATED BUDGET. WE GO THROUGH A FISCAL YEAR THAT ENDS IN SEPTEMBER 30TH. SO WE ARE 11 OUT OF THE 12 MONTHS INTO OUR FISCAL YEAR. OCTOBER 1ST, 2026 WILL BE THE START OF FISCAL YEAR 2027. THIS IS AN ESTIMATED BUDGET SHOWING WHAT OUR ESTIMATED REVENUES THAT OUR ESTIMATED EXPENDITURES WILL LOOK LIKE. I COMPARED THIS TO FISCAL YEAR 2025 JUST AS A REFERENCE. UM, FISCAL YEAR 2025, WE HAD 1.3 MILLION IN REVENUE. THIS YEAR WE ARE ESTIMATED TO HAVE 1.7 MILLION IN REVENUE. AND THIS IS DUE TO THE INCREASE THAT WE HAD ON OCTOBER 1ST. FOR THE PARKING METER LEADS, OUR TOTAL EXPENDITURES ARE LOOKING TO BE THE AROUND 1.3 MILLION FOR FY 26, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE HAD IN FISCAL YEAR 2025. UM, OUR BIG EXPENDITURES, OUR SECURITY CLEANING SERVICES, PRESSURE WASHING BANK FEES, WE HAVE A $200,000 DEBT SERVICE THAT WE HAVE TO PAY AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY FISCAL YEAR. SO STARTING OCTOBER 1ST, WE WILL HAVE TO REPAY THAT DEBT. AGAIN, IT'S IN THE AMOUNT OF $200,000. SO THAT'S THE FIXED DEBT SERVICE THAT WE PAY EVERY YEAR. UM, OUR PROJECTED, YOU KNOW, OUR PROJECTED REVENUES FOR FY 25 WERE LESS THAN WE EXPECTED. WE ENDED UP BEING IN THE NEGATIVE AND SO AS A RESULT WE INCREASED PARKING METER FEES. AND IN DOING THAT, WE ARE ESTIMATED TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A PROJECT SURPLUS OF ABOUT $407,000. AND THEN AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WE SHOULD HAVE AROUND $727,000 IN THE FUND. THAT IS AS OF SEPTEMBER 30TH. HOWEVER, ON OCTOBER 1ST, WE HAVE THAT IMMEDIATE PAYMENT TO OUR DEBT SERVICE. SO, WHICH IS WHY YOU SEE AT THE VERY BOTTOM THE $200,000 TAKEN OUT. SO OUR PROJECTED FUND BALANCE AS OF TEN ONE, IT'S GOING TO BE ABOVE $100,000. WE, I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW THAT I'VE INCLUDED EXPENSES FOR FY 26 FOR THE E CAMM TRAILER. THESE EXPENSES HAVE NOT BEEN INCURRED YET, BUT THIS IS JUST TO SEE WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE. INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET, WE WILL BE INSTALLING DEC CAM TRAILERS, UM, ALONG THE PUB, TWO OF THE PUBLIC LOTS IN THE, IN THE PARKING LOTS. AND WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER ITEM LATER ON IN THE AGENDA THAT WILL BE DISCUSSING THAT IN MORE DEPTH. BUT WHERE GONNA BE LOTS, THEY'LL BE IN THE LOTS BEHIND PIANO JOE'S AND THE LIGHTS. BUT LOTS JOES, YEAH, WE'LL BE ABLE TO TALK, WE'LL BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT IT MORE IN A FEATURE I DIDN'T HAVE. WE HAVE, YEAH. GOOD. YOU WANNA FINISH WITH PRICE QUESTIONS? YEAH. OKAY. UM, IS THE DEBT SERVICE EVER PAID OFF? THE DEBT SERVICE WILL BE PAID OFF IN 2041 OR 2042. CHECK THAT, BUT WE WILL BE PAYING IT FOR A WHILE, I THINK. AND THEN ALTHOUGH YOU RE RAISED THE RATES OCTOBER 1ST, 2025, $5 PER HOUR, RIGHT. ARE WE ACTUALLY HAVING MORE VISITORS AS WELL ONCE VISITORS, ARE YOU ABLE TO TRACK THAT? WE ARE NOT ABLE TO TRACK THAT JUST IN REVENUE, DELAWARE. IT'S NOT THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT, THAT SHOW UP. THANK YOU. UM, SORRY. ON THE PRESSURE. YEAH. REASON WHY IT WENT DOWN SO MUCH. THE REASON WHY IT WENT DOWN SO MUCH IS BECAUSE WE HAD, WE PREVIOUSLY HAD CLEANING SERVICE AND THE PRESS PRESSURE WASH TEAM BE SEPARATE. AND THEN OVER THE LAST YEAR WE'VE ACTUALLY CREATED AN RFP ASKING FOR A CLEAN SERVICE TEAM TO DO BOTH CLEANING OF THE TRASH AND FOR PRESSURE WASHING IN THAT AREA. SO FOR ABOUT HALF THE YEAR WE, WE HAD TWO VENDORS AND THEN STARTING IN FEBRUARY WE HAD A NEW CLEAN TEAM COME ON AND TAKE OVER THOSE PRESSURE WASHING SERVICES. SO THAT PRESSURE WASHING SERVICE EXPENSE THAT LOOKS LOW IS ACTUALLY PUSHED INTO THE CLEANING SERVICES EXPENSE AS WELL BECAUSE IT SOUNDS ONE LUMP SOMETHING EIGHT. AND THAT WILL BE, THAT WILL NOT BE IN THE FY 27 BUDGET THEN, RIGHT? THE IT'S GONNA BE COMBINED. YEAH. THE PRESSURE WASHING WILL NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE FY 27 BUDGET. SO IN FY 27. SO NEXT MONTH WHEN WE HAVE LIKE AN ESTIMATE LIKE THIS, WHICH I'LL, WHICH I'LL PRESENT TO EVERYONE, WE'LL HAVE THE LINE ITEM OF PRESSURE WASHING JUST BECAUSE WE'LL COMPARE IT TO LAST YEAR, BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT IT'LL BE ZERO AND OUR, OUR CLEANING SERVICE FEE WILL ESSENTIALLY REMAIN THE SAME. SO AS A RESULT OF COMBINING CLEANING SERVICE AND PRESSURE WASHING WITH THIS RFP, WE MANAGED TO SAVE A LITTLE BIT OF . WELL, [00:10:02] YES, JENSEN, DO WE KNOW IF ALL OF THE, UH, RETAILERS WERE SATISFIED WITH THE PRESSURE ROCKINESS GOING ON, KEEPING IT CLEAN ENOUGH IT SEEMS LIKE, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW IF, UH, QUESTION AND ANSWER WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT RETAILERS AND WHETHER IT HAS OR PROPERTY. THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ASK THE BLOCK BY BLOCK TEAM AND WHEN WE HAVE THAT ITEM COME UP. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION TO ASK THOUGH, BUT WE SHOULD DO THAT IN THE NEXT SEGMENT. YEAH, GOOD. SO OVERALL, WE, WHEN WE MADE THE DECISION TO INCREASE, UH, THE LEADER RATES, IF WE LOOK AT THE PREVIOUS YEAR, WE WERE CONSISTENTLY HAVING A NEGATIVE. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE INCREASED. YOU VOTED TO INCREASE THE RATES RECOMMENDED AN INCREASE AND IT HAS PROVED TO BE GOOD FOR US AND IT WILL GIVE US THAT ROOM. WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO ADDITIONAL WHATEVER WE'RE LOOKING AT. THINGS LIKE THE E CAM NOW COULD BE ADDITIONAL CLEANING, COULD BE ADDITIONAL MEDIAN, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, WATERING OR TAKING CARE OF THOSE, THE PLANTS, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING WITH INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, THE, THE CITY PARKING LOTS OR BEAUTIFICATION, THOSE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT WE CAN FOCUS ON. AND THIS GIVES US THE ABILITY TO MAKE SOME OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT BEFORE WE WERE JUST RIGHT UP TO THE EDGE OR, YOU KNOW, SLOWLY DEPLETING THE FUNDS. SO, UM, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD TO BE A GOOD DECISION THIS YEAR AND GOING FORWARD. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? THEN SEEING NO, IF THERE FURTHER, UH, QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO NOW TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM ANYONE WE'D LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT. ISIAH, PLEASE STAND OUT. UM, MELINDA COTTON, UM, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE BANK AND THE CREDIT CARD FEES. THOSE MIGHT SEEM LIKE A REALLY BIG SUB $125,000, UH, FOR I GUESS THE METER MONEY OR MAYBE IT JUST IS INTERESTING AND I WONDER WHAT THAT WAS. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MICHELLE? MICHELLE, SIMON, I HAVE A QUESTION BUT I KNOW IT'S NOT INTERACTIVE, BUT I JUST NOTICED THAT THE, UM, ESTIMATED COST OF THE TRASH CAN REPLACEMENT, WHICH OF COURSE YOU ALREADY SPENT MONEY ON THE TRASH CANS THAT YOU'RE REPLACING AND THEN THE ESTIMATED, UM, IS FIVE. WHAT IS IT? SO IT WAS ACTUALLY LESS THAN WHAT WAS ESTIMATED ANYWAY, JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE TWO NUMBERS. BUT ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH OUR COMMISSIONER? NOT ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS. I THEIR OKAY. OKAY, LET'S CALL FOR THE VOTE THEN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING THE COURT. MAY I DO THE ROLL? CAUSE OH, SORRY. YOU'RE I THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CLAIRE. AYE. COMMISSIONER CLAAR? AYE. COMMISSIONER JENSEN? AYE. COMMISSIONER MILLER? AYE. CHAIR CASTRO AYE. MOTION PLEASE. OKAY, MEMBER, UH, GENDER NINE THREE [3. 26-56174 Recommendation to receive and file the Long Beach Transit Employee Bus Pass Program Status for August 2026.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] RECORD OF AGENT OF RECEIPT AND FILE A LAW EXHIBIT EMPLOYEE THUS PASS STATUS FOR PROGRESS 2026. MAY I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND FOR THIS ITEM? RICHARD . MOTION DECLARE. SECOND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAY WE HAVE THE REPORT, PLEASE BEAR, PLEASE TURN THE PAGE 12 OF THE DOCUMENT PACKAGE TITLED VSBA SUMMARY. UM, IN TERMS OF RIDERSHIP, WE'VE HAD AN 8% INCREASE VERSUS LAST YEAR. UM, UNIQUE CARDS AVAILABLE. THERE'S A 19% INCREASE VERSUS LAST YEAR ACTIVE BUSINESS USAGE. THERE'S BEEN A 14% INCREASE LAST YEAR. AND OVERALL WE'RE SEEING INCREASE IN BOTH RIDERSHIP AND PEOPLE USING THE CARS. IF YOU LOOK AT HUGE 13, IT SHOWS THE RIDERSHIP TREND AND THE CHANGE. AND UH, THIS IS THE BELMONT SHORE OR THIS IS THE BELMONT SHORE BUS PASS PROGRAM THAT WAS CREATED TO SHOW, YOU KNOW, GIVE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THE BELMONT SHORE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE FREE, FREE PUBLIC TRANSIT IF THEY WORK IN THE AREA. AND SO THIS IS THE NUMBER OF LIKE SHIPS VERSUS WHAT THEY'VE HAD LAST YEAR. AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE CHANGES. THIS IS A NEW REPORT THAT'S CREATED FROM LONG BEACH TRANSIT. LONG BEACH TRANSIT HAD, [00:15:01] UH, PROVIDED THIS. SO IF IT LOOKS A LITTLE NEW TO YOU, IT'S, IT'S NEW TO EVERYONE. SO IF THERE BEAR WITH US, IF WE NEED TO HEAR ANY KIND OF UPDATES, CHANGES, EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT YOU CAN SEE RIDERSHIP OVERALL OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, IT'S THE HIGHEST IT'S BEEN. WE'VE SEEN MANY CARDS USED. IT'S THE HIGHEST IT'S BEEN. IF YOU GO TO PAGE 15 THAT IT SHOWS THE RIDER FOR BUSINESSES FOR THAT MONTH AND YOU CAN SEE THE NOTE, YOU KNOW, THE RIDES PER NEW CARD RIDERSHIP, NEW CARDS, AND IT GOES BY BUSINESS NAME AS WELL. SO YOU CAN SEE ALL THE BUSINESSES THAT PARTICIPATE INTO THIS PROGRAM. AS OF RIGHT NOW, THIS, THE PAYMENTS TO LONG BEACH TRANSIT FOR THIS PROGRAM ARE NOT USED WITH THE ONSHORE PARKING METER FUNDS. IT WAS ESTABLISHED, UM, A FEW YEARS AGO THAT THERE WERE SOME PROP A FUND THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM HAD DECIDED THAT THEY WOULD USE TO PAY FOR THIS INSTEAD OF THE MUCH SHORT METER FUNDS. SO THAT AS LONG AS CONTINUE THIS PROGRAM, PROFIT A WILL LIKELY BE THE SOURCE OF FUNDING THAT THEY SEND OUT THE DOLLAR TO METER FUND. HOWEVER, THE PARKING METER FUND, IT IS AN ELIGIBLE EXPENSE TO BE USED. SO IF THAT DROP A WOULD GO AWAY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE COULD STILL USE CONTINUE THIS PROGRAM, WHICH RIGHT NOW, LIKE THE CONTRACT, UM, WITH LONG BEACH TRANSIT AND PUBLIC WORKS FOR THIS PROGRAM ENDS IN DECEMBER. HOWEVER, WE HAVE THE OPTION TO EXTEND FOR ANOTHER TWO YEARS OR FOR, WE HAVE TWO YEAR TWO EXTENSIONS AFTER THAT. AND, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT CONTINUING THE PROGRAM AS LONG AS WE CAN. SO EVEN THOUGH OUR CONTRACT ENDS ON 1231, WE'LL BE LOOKING TO EXTEND ANOTHER. SO DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE REPORT? WE KNOW IF, IF THAT ON, ON THE EXTENSION, WHAT IS IS LIKE AN OPTION PERIOD THAT YOU, YOUR YOUR, YOUR NUMBER'S GONNA BE UP, UH, INCREASED AS TO ANY WAY WE PARTICIPATE IN THAT OR LINE FOR WHAT WHAT ARE THE NO, IT'S, IT'S WITH, UM, I JUST HAVEN'T SEEN THE AGREEMENT AS TO WHAT THE AGREEMENT IS. SURE. IT'S A PERCENT, IT'S, IT'S BETWEEN, UH, EACH RIDER IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT THAT WE PAY TO BOMB BEACH TRANSIT. I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. SO WE, WE ARE PAYING FOR THEM SHOWING UP HERE. WE'RE PAYING FOR LONG BEACH, WE'RE PAYING FOR PUBLIC WORKS IS PAYING OR THE RIDERSHIP PROGRAM. YEAH, THE RIDERSHIP PROGRAM IN ITSELF. YEAH. THEY'RE NOT GETTING FOR LONGEST TRANSIT TO COME DOWN HERE. THEY'RE JUST, INSTEAD OF BONUS PARKING METER FUND PAYING FOR THIS WELL WORKS SAFETY ON THAT. YEAH. SO, UM, JUST A FEW QUESTIONS. I KNOW SOME OF THEIR CHART, THEIR FISCAL YEAR STARTS IN JULY. YES. OUR SEPTEMBER OBVIOUSLY IS, BUT YET THE PROGRAM EXPIRES IN DECEMBER. FISCAL LIKE A LOT OF DIFFERENT YEAH. CALENDAR DATES. IT DOES, YOU'RE RIGHT. . UM, THEN YOU SAID THE MONEY IS PAID BY PROPERTY FUNDS, RIGHT? YEAH. SO IF LIKE SINCE AUGUST OR JULY IT WAS ALMOST $6,000. SO WHEN PROPER, IF PROPERTY RUNS OUT, THEN THIS COMES TO US. MM-HMM . AT ABOUT, AT ABOUT 6 6 60 TO $70,000 A YEAR. YEAH, ABOUT SIX, YOU KNOW, FIVE TO SIX GRAND A MONTH. YEAH. WHEN DOES PROPERTY A EXPIRED? WE DON'T, UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT YET, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE ANYTIME WE'LL BRING IT UP ONE. THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION. UNDERSTAND. SORRY. CONTINUE. , THESE ARE ALL VERY GOOD QUESTIONS. AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT'S THE HIGHEST RIDERSHIP EVER BEEN. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE LIKE THE MARKDOWN THOUGH. WE, WE SEE IT, YOU KNOW, IF THE INVOICE AMOUNT GOES UP AND INCREASES, THAT MEANS MORE PEOPLE ARE USING THE PROGRAM. WE'RE GIVING MORE ACCESS TO PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THE AREA, ACCESS TO, YOU KNOW, FREE PUBLIC TRANSIT. THAT ALSO MEANS THAT THEY DON'T USE A PARKING SPACE AND IT FREES UP PARKING SPACE AND IN THIS MONTH, 6,157 TIMES. SO THAT'S GREAT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE NOTICED AND I'VE BEEN IN THE TRANSPORTATION BUSINESS IS THAT THE MORE THAT YOU CAN OFFER PEOPLE RIDES, YOU KNOW, AT TIMES THAT THEY NEED THEM. THAT'S ALWAYS THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE WITH CLINICAL TRANSIT AND IS MAKING SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE AVAILABILITY OUT THOSE RIDES WHEN IT'S THE MOST, YOU KNOW, USEFUL. SO WHEN YOU SEE THAT, THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE HITTING THE MARK WITH, YOU KNOW, THE INCREASE IT'S BEING. IT'S RELEVANT, IT'S HELPFUL. SO AS LONG AS WE ARE HELPING TO REDUCE PERFECT IMPACT AND, AND UH, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD WITH GIVING PEOPLE THESE OPTIONS, IT, IT IS A REALLY GOOD SERVICE FOR US. [00:20:03] ANY OTHER NOW LIKE I DO HAVE . I DUNNO IF IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT UP RIGHT NOW, BUT I KNOW MY SPECIFIC BUSINESS IS LISTED ON YOUR POINTS AND IT WAS BEFORE IF THEY WENT AWAY AND NOW THAT THEY CHANGED THEIR FORMAT, IT'S BACK. UH, WHICH, WHICH, UH, SO GRAD BUSINESS, THE CLUB, THE DIPLOMA, YEAH. BUSINESS. OKAY. SO JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY SEEING IS, YEAH, I'LL REACH OUT TO LONG BEACH TRANSIT, I'LL REACH OUT TO LONG BEACH TRANSIT AND SEE IF WE CAN CHANGE THAT. GET THAT BACK ON THERE THE RIGHT WAY. . SO WE'LL NOW TAKE COVER OF THE RIES. ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE STAND DOWN. TWICE SPELLED THE SAME. NICE OTHER, UH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, BELMONT BUSINESS ASSOCIATION. I MANAGE THE BUS PATH PROGRAM AND I MANUALLY ENTER ANOTHER BUSINESS NAME EVERY TIME I ENTER NEW CARD AND IT'S WORDED BY DATE. SO I CAN'T NECESSARILY SEE 20 UPS BY SOMETIMES TYPE IN DEVELOPMENT AND SOMETIMES TYPE IN DEVELOPMENT. ATHLETIC LETTER. I'VE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE SURE I GET IT CONSISTENTLY. UM, MAKING SURE IT'S ALL THROUGH THERE. 'CAUSE ONE LIST OF LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, OVER A THOUSAND REMARKS. SO I APOLOGIZE. . RIGHT. ANY FURTHER COMPONENTS? UNDERNEATH YOUR, OKAY. COMMISSIONER. UM, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER COZAAR. AYE. COMMISSIONER JEN. AYE. COMMISSIONER MILLER. AYE. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. EXCUSE CHAIR. CASTER. AYE. MOTION UNANIM. VERY GOOD. AGENDA [4. 26-56175 Recommendation to receive status updates on Block by Block of Long Beach’s work in the Belmont Shore area, including responses to requests for assistance, for August 2026.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] ITEM FOUR. RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE STATUS UPDATES ON BLOCK BY BLOCK OF JUAN, WHICH IS WORKED IN THE AREA, INCLUDING, UH, RESPONSES TO REQUEST FROM FOR ASSISTANCE FOR AUGUST, 2020 SIXTH. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND FOR THIS ITEM? I MOTION I SECOND. OKAY. WE MAY, WE HAVE THE REPORT. YOU'RE UP . I LOVE VIE. THIS IS, UH, THESE ARE THE, ALL THE NEW COMMISSIONERS WE HAVE. UM, THIS IS LEVY. HE HEADS THE NEW MONT MATURE CLEAN TEAM. SO HE'S, UH, REPRESENTED BY BLOCK BY BLOCK. BLOCK BY BLOCK IS THE NEW, THE NEW CLEAN TEAM. WE HAD A PREVIOUS CLEAN TEAM PRO CONSERVATION COURT FOR A LONG TIME. AND THEN CONSERVATION CORPS HAD SOME, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY WERE ABLE TO HELP DO CLEANING IN THE BELMONT SHORE AREA FOR YEARS. AND THEN AFTER COVID THERE WERE SOME FUNDING ISSUES WHERE THEY HAD TO INCREASE THEIR PRICES AND THEIR PRICES WERE MARKET RATE. AND SINCE THEY WERE MARKET RATE, IT WAS SUCH A BIG JUMP FROM WHAT WE PREVIOUSLY HAD THE COMMISSION DECIDED TO PERFORM, UH, HAVE PUBLIC WORKS ASSIST IN DOING AN RFP FOR TEAM SERVICES. SO AS OF FEBRUARY WE'VE BEEN LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE LUBY AND THE, YOU KNOW, AND THE BLOCK BY BLOCK TEAM TO DO PRESSURE WASHING, CLEANING, UM, LUBY, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT YOU'VE DONE RECENTLY? ACTUALLY TALK, TALK ABOUT THE TRASH CANS THAT WE JUST, UH, INSTALLED. MEGAN. OKAY. SO WE JUST RECENTLY GOT, UH, 10, UH, BRAND NEW RECEPTACLES. BEAUTIFUL RECEPTACLES THERE FOR LOU. YES, EXACTLY. UH, I'VE STATIONED ONE IN THE PARK PARKING LOT, THE LAST PARKING LOT. UH, SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, WE'RE GONNA FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE GONNA ASSEMBLE 'EM AND BOLT 'EM DOWN TO THE GROUND SO WE DON'T HAVE NO DISGRUNTLED PEOPLE COMING OVER, PUSHING THEM OVER JUST FOR NO REASON. YEAH. SO IT'S A BIG DEAL. THEY LOOKING ICE. I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE HOW THEY LOOK ONCE THEY'RE OUT IN THE FIELD AND PLACED WHERE THEY NEED TO BE PLACED. THAT'S MIKE. HOW ARE WE GONNA DO WITH ISSUES WITH THE TRASH CANS TO AID OVERFLOWING? I KNOW YOU'RE ON IT. YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN PHENOMENAL FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN SO FAR. UM, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE THESE THINGS CALLED SEABUS THAT UH, TEND TO, UH, PENETRATE TO THE TRASH A LITTLE TOO MUCH. SO THAT, THAT'S ONE QUESTION I'VE GOT, UM, [00:25:01] IS, IS, HEY, WHAT'S THAT DIMENSION? THERE WAS A SIX INCHES OR 10 INCHES OR WHAT IS THAT? I WANNA SAY BY 10 IT IS 10. OKAY. YEAH, 10 AT LEAST YOU GET THE YEAH. SO YOU CAN GET THE TRASH 10. THE THING IS LIKE PEOPLE BE SO MUCH IN A RUSH. YEAH. THEY JUST SET IT ON THE, THE CAN IT DON'T ACTUALLY PUSH IT IN THERE, BUT I MAKE SURE THAT I LET MY GUYS KNOW THAT IF THAT OCCUR TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE TRASH IS PUSHED INTO THE CAN, THE ACTUAL CAN, SO WE CAN CHANGE THE BAG OUT TO ALLEVIATE THAT, THAT PROBLEM. SHOULD WE PUT A STICKER OUT THAT SO THAT PLEASE PUSH, CAN TRASH INTO THE, CAN GO TO THAT. BUT THEN SOME PEOPLE JUST GO, THEY GONNA DO WHAT THEY DO, THEY GONNA DO WHAT THEY DO. BUT I THINK THAT IT'S A, IT IS A GOOD LOOK FOR FOR THE AREA, FOR THE COMMUNITY. YES. I JUST HAVE A COMMENT. I SO HAPPY YOU GUYS ARE HERE. THANK YOU. I GO TO THE GYM VERY EARLY IN THE MORNING AND YOUR GUYS POWER WASHING ON SECOND AND A AND YOU'RE ALWAYS OUT. EVERYBODY'S ALWAYS VERY FRIENDLY AND THEY'RE ALWAYS WORKING, ALWAYS CLEANING. SO THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE IT. NO PROBLEM. THAT'S WHY WE CALL 'EM SUPER LUCKY . YEAH. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, UH, OUR, OUR MAIN GOAL ON A DAILY BASIS IS TO REACH A CERTAIN STANDARD AND HELP HOLD THAT EXPECTATION FAR AS LIKE KEEPING SECOND STREET NICE AND SEXY. NICE AND SEXY, THE PRESSURE WASHING, YOU KNOW, OUR GUYS, THEY, THEY PRESSURE WASHED, UH, OUR PRESSURE WASH WASHER TRAILER, IT, IT SPITS OUT 4,000 PSIS. SO IT'S, IT IS POWERFUL. IT'S POWERFUL. WE'VE BEEN HAVING PROBLEM WITH THE, WITH A PARTICULAR VENDOR UP IN THE AREA WHERE RIOT AID IS AT. THEY DON'T WANNA DISPOSE THEIR GREASY BAGS. SO YOU GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAN AND, AND TIMES IT KEEPS IT HARD. BUT WE MAKE SURE THAT THE GREASE AND ALL THAT STUFF IS, IS UP AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NICE AND NICE AND COOL. YEP. YES. THE CHALLENGE I'VE SEEN IS, UH, IN FRONT OF THE RIGHT AID WE HAVE IN INDIVIDUALS THAT, UH, HAVE COME OUT OF DIFFERENT PLACES THAT NEED TO GO TO THE RESTROOM ON, UH, WHERE THE MAIN ENTRANCE IS SO THAT THAT'S CONSTANT ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE CLEANED. AND I'VE SEEN YOU GUYS ARE DOING IT, UH, BUT IT'S A CONSTANT FALL. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO, UH, STOP THAT OTHER THAN, UH, PROVIDE MORE RESTROOMS ON THE, ON SECOND STREET. BUT , THAT'S NEVER GONNA HAPPEN. , LET ME, I HAVE A QUESTION. UM, FOR THE, FOR THE GREASE, DO THEY LEAVE IT OUT IN BAGS OR DO THEY PUT IT IN THE TRASH CAN AND THEN SEE IT LATER? NO, THEY, THEY, THEY WRAP 'EM IN THESE BLUE BAGS, BUT IT'S GREASE, IT'S LIQUID. SO IT'S NOT, IT'S GOING TO, IT'S GONNA SEEP OUT IN, UH, A HOLE THAT THEY CAN. YEAH. AND IT JUST, IT SPREADS EVERYWHERE MAN. IT SPREADS EVERYWHERE. I EVEN WANTED TO COME DOWN HERE ON A FRIDAY EVENING JUST TO LET 'EM KNOW IT'S A DUMPSTER IN THE BACK. ALL YOU GUYS GOTTA DO IS JUST WALK TO THE BACK AND DUMP IT IN THE DUMPSTER. BUT I HAVE NOT YET TO DO THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN OUT HERE FOR THE PAST THREE WEEKS. SO IT'S BEEN LOOKING PRETTY NICE AND CLEAN IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA THUS FAR. FINE. IS THERE, UM, SOMETHING WE CAN DO WITH THE CITY ORDINANCE TO PUT THE, THE PROPER, UM, UH, I GUESS WHAT WOULD YOU SAY, UM, COMMENTS TO THE, TO THE OPERATORS THAT THEY NEED TO ABIDE BY THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET A FINE FOR SURE THAT, THAT'S KIND OF, I KNOW HOW WE DO THAT, BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO BECAUSE THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE. YEAH. AND I WOULD SAY YEAH, MIKE, BECAUSE THAT'S, IT IS SLIPPERY MAN. YEAH. IT'S SLIPPERY. YOU KNOW, THERE BEEN TIMES WHERE I'M ALMOST SLIPPED AND HAVE TO CATCH THE BIG BELLY IN ORDER FOR ME NOT TO SOLVE SLIPPERY. YEAH. SO I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY, YEAH, I MEAN, I MEAN, DO WE MAKE A MOTION TO GET THAT, UM, THAT THROUGH THE CITY OR HOW DO WE GET THAT, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T TECHNICALLY RECOMMEND BECAUSE IT'S ONLY FOR, WE CAN'T, I'LL SPEAK WITH CITY ATTORNEY TO SEE HOW OKAY THEY'RE DOING THAT. BUT BASICALLY THAT'S A BUSINESS LICENSE HEALTH DEPARTMENT ISSUE. MM-HMM. OKAY. AND THAT'S KIND OF OUTSIDE OUR PUR NEEDS. YOU CAN'T CREATE S OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO DO YOU WANNA TAKE THAT TO CHRISTINA DUGGAN TO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT CREEK TO HELP WITH FOR SURE. OKAY. SO IS THERE SOME TYPE OF A REQUIREMENT THAT I NEEDED TO PUT FORWARD TO CHRISTINA DUGGAN OR JUST WRITE A LETTER TO HER ABOUT THAT ISSUE? I WOULD EMAIL CD THREE. YEAH, CHRISTINA AND CD THREE AND SEE WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS. 'CAUSE THEN IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH WHOEVER IN HEALTH DEPARTMENT OR BUSINESS LICENSE TEAM. AND WE, WE JUST NEED TO KEEP THE SECOND PIECE THAT, UH, DETERIORATING, UH, FROM WHAT I'M [00:30:01] SEEING MM-HMM . AND, UM, I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT OBVIOUSLY. MM-HMM. UM, AND THIS IS ONE MORE THING THAT WE NEED TO DO TO KEEP IT BRIGHT AND SHINY SO THAT RETAILERS WANT TO BE HERE BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S MOVED EAST TO SECOND AND PCH AND UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT IS CAUSED PROBLEMS ON SECOND STREET. SO I NEED TO, I, I THINK SECOND STREET NEEDS TO DO THAT TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF THE RETAIL IN THE VACANCIES. CAN WE GET A CLARIFICATION OF WHEN WE SAY DECREASE, IS THAT OVERNIGHT? DOES THAT HAPPEN MAINLY AFTER BUY THEN AFTER? I WOULD SAY IT'S, UH, I DON'T BE HERE AT THAT TIME, BUT IT'S, I I WANNA SAY IT'S EE EVEN ITS EVENING. THAT'S LATE EVENING, SO, EXACTLY. TECHNICALLY THE GUYS ARE ALSO TIRED WORKING IN THE KITCHEN AND ALL THAT. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT'S, I JUST HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY TO YOU, MIKE. UM, THERE'S A LOT OF LOOPHOLES AND SO IF WE, IT GOES BEYOND CHRISTINA DUGGAN'S AUTHORITY, SO IF WE GET ON WHAT'S THE WEBSITE, THE THE LONG BEACH GO, GO, GO ALONG AND IF YOU SEE SOMETHING, REPORT IT. GOT IT. BECAUSE IF SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING, SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING. IF WE REPORT IT AND THERE'S ENOUGH REPORTS, THEY WILL DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. GOTCHA. YEAH. AND IF I MAY, UM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEND A LETTER TO THE COUNCILWOMAN, THEN THAT WOULD BE, UH, IN YOUR CAPACITY AS A RESIDENT, NOT AS A COMMISSIONER. SURE. UM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEND SOMETHING TO THE COUNCIL, A WOMAN AS A COMMISSION, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL NEED TO BE AGENDIZED AND ALLOWED TO THEN SEND A LETTER OR SAY SOMETHING. THANK YOU. YOUR EXPLANATION TO I NO, ALSO I'D LIKE TO SAY I THINK WE ACTUALLY SHOULD STRONGLY CONSIDER AS A COMMISSION TO GET, BECAUSE IT IS OUTSIDE OF OUR IMMEDIATE RESPONSIBILITIES, BUT IT'S LEACHING INTO THINGS THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR. AND I THINK THE PROBLEM, IN MY OPINION IS OPPOSITION IS VERY DISSECTED. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME RESIDENTS THAT DON'T LIKE WHAT'S GOING ON. WE HAVE SOME BUSINESSES, SOME PEOPLE OVER HERE AND THERE AREN'T ENOUGH OF COORDINATED EFFORTS TRYING TO SUM UP WHAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY IS FEELING AND THINKING. UM, AND I THINK THIS IS, EVERYTHING'S JUST STARTING TO GO IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. YOU KNOW, IT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR PURVIEW RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK IT SHOULD STAY THERE. I THINK THAT WE CAN SCHEDULE, I MEAN WE CAN TRY AND CHECK OUT SOMETHING FOR NEXT MONTH TO DISCUSS THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE AND SEE WHAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT AND INCLUDE IN THAT LETTER. AND THEN IF EVERYONE AGREES ON THE POINTS THAT THEY WANT MAKE ACROSS, THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH SUBMITTING IT AS MAYBE A BIG MOTION. ONCE WE, ONCE WE HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA, THEN WE CAN DO THAT. YEAH. AND I DO KIND OF WANNA ECHO AS WELL. THE LONG BEACH GO APP. IT'S A REALLY GREAT APP THAT SHOWS GOOD THING YOU CAN USE WHEN THINGS ARE WRONG. LIKE HAVE ANY KIND OF LIKE WATER LEAKAGE IN THE AREA. YOU KNOW, LIKE THERE'S, THERE'S OVERGROWN TREES SOMEWHERE. THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S BROKEN A METER YOU CAN PICTURE AND SEND. YOU CAN, YEAH, YOU CAN UPLOAD A PICTURE AND USE THAT LONG BEACH APP AND YOU CAN DO IT ONLINE AS WELL. NOT JUST ON YOUR PHONE VIA APP. YOU CAN GO AND DO THAT. UH, YES TOO KNOW BUILDINGS PART WHERE HAS COMPLAINED ABOUT THAT BUNCH. DOUG IS JUST CONSTANTLY COMPLAINING ABOUT THE CLEANUP OF BEHIND AND THE, THE GROWTH OF THE TREES AND EVERYTHING. ALMOST LINES IN THERE'S PARKING LOT. YEAH. AND HOW IT'S ENCUMBERING HE WILL BE ABLE TO HOLD INTO THEIR SPOT ON THE PARKING LOT. SO I KNOW WE'VE PROBABLY FILED THINGS LIKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO AS AN IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION. YEAH. AS, AS COMMISSIONERS. BUT YEAH, IT'S, IT'S REALLY, IT'S REALLY GOOD TO USE THAT APP TOO BECAUSE NUMBER ONE, YOU CAN, YOU CAN TRACK IT AND NUMBER TWO, IT GETS FUNNELED TO THE RIGHT PERSON WHO DOES IT. I KNOW THAT THEY, I KNOW THAT IT CAN BE KIND OF DIFFICULT TO FIGURE OUT WHO DOES WHAT, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF LIKE STREET REPAIR OR TREE MAINTENANCE OR WHATNOT. BUT THOSE APPS FUNNEL TO THE PEOPLE WHO SEE IT AND ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. AND THAT'S A REALLY GOOD WAY. 'CAUSE THEN THEY GIVE YOU A TICKET AS WELL, BUT YOU CAN REFER TO THAT TICKET. IT'S A GREAT WAY TO CREATE A PAPER TRAIL INSTEAD OF JUST TRYING TO EMAIL SOMEONE AND THEN HOPE THAT YOU'LL REACH WHOEVER IT GETS TO. THAT'S WHAT'S SO GREAT ABOUT THAT. I REALLY DO CAN'T RECOMMEND IT MORE SO I'VE USED IT BEFORE. WE ALL NEED TO GET RID OF OUR TECHNICAL PHOBIA. I FIGURE IT OUT. YEAH, IT'S VERY GOOD. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? [00:35:04] I JUST WANTED TO ADD SOMETHING BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS NECESSARILY CLEAR. IS SPEAKING ABOUT THE GREASE ON THE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF RITE AID. THAT IS A RESULT OF THE FOOD VENDORS THAT COME NOT FROM RESTAURANTS TAKING OUT TRASH BAGS IN THE BACK. CORRECT. OKAY. WELL, I'LL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE HONOR, PLEASE STAND NOW OR IDENTIFY YOURSELF. GOOD MORNING. I'M ROSS TURNER. I'M A RESIDENT AND HOMEOWNER, UM, GONNA SEEM REALLY, REALLY NITPICKY, ESPECIALLY ON YOUR FIRST SALE ON THE JOB COMMISSIONERS. BUT, UM, BACK IN FEBRUARY, UH, THE, UH, COMMISSION BROUGHT ON L AND THE GANG FROM THE BLOCK BY BLOCK AND, UM, USED, UH, THE COMMISSION'S MONEY TO PAY FOR THAT SERVICE. AND YET, UH, BS B'S, UH, SECOND STREET LOGO APPEARS ON, UH, JERSEYS AND TRUCKS AND EQUIPMENT. UH, THIS WAS BROUGHT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO AND THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID, WELL, THAT'S NOT RIGHT. UH, SECOND STREET SHOULDN'T HAVE, UH, RECEIVED THE CREDIT FOR SOMETHING THEY DIDN'T PAY FOR. AND, UH, YET I'M KIND OF LOOKING OUT AT THE CORNER OF MY EYE AND NOTICING A SECOND STREET LOGO ON LEVY SHIRT. UH, JUST HOPING THAT THE COMMISSION AND IT'S, UH, FIRST DAY IS A FOLLOW UP ON WHAT THE EASEMENT CITY ATTORNEY HAD SAID AND, UH, CORRECT THE MISTAKE THAT WAS MADE IN FEBRUARY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. UH, HI MELINDA COTTON AGAIN. I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU AND YOUR PEOPLE FOR THEIR WORK. THEY'RE LY FOR OUT ON THE STREET AND THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE TREES, WHICH ARE A REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF SECOND STREET, AND THEY SUFFER A LOT, PARTLY FROM LACK OF WATER, PARTLY FROM TRUCKS RUNNING INTO THEM. UH, WE'VE GOT A DEAD TREE OR TWO OUT THERE AND WHEN, AND WE THOUGHT THESE LITTLE TINY GUYS THAT BARELY CAN SURVIVE AND SOMEBODY IS REPLACING 'EM AFTER THEY'RE NOT. THESE ARE THE BRAND NEW TREES, THE LITTLE TINY BUSY GUYS, UM, THAT HAVE NO PROTECTION AROUND THEM. AND THEY USUALLY DISAPPEAR AFTER A FEW MONTHS, EITHER BECAUSE THEY DON'T GET ENOUGH WATER, WHICH THEY REALLY NEED WHEN THEY'RE NEW OR BECAUSE OF, UH, SOME DAMAGE FROM VANDALISM. SO I GUESS WHO WAS IN CHARGE OF THE TREES AND HOW CAN THEY BE BETTER PROTECTED, WHICH THEY WERE IN THE PAST BY MIDDLE SURROUNDS OR UR POLE. BUT, UM, IT'S, IT'S A DIFFICULT SITUATION AND WE SORT OF MEET SOMEBODY WHO'S RESPONSIBLE. SO HOPEFULLY THAT CAN BE TAKEN CARE OF. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. ANY OTHER ? ALL FOR THE VOTE? COMMISSIONER CLEAR? AYE. COMMISSIONER COZA? AYE. COMMISSIONER JENEN AYE. COMMISSIONER MILLER. AYE. CHAIR CASTRO. AYE. MOTION CARRIES A ITEM FIVE [5. 26-55871 Recommendation to receive and file the presentation regarding electronic camera trailers in the Belmont Shore area.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE THE FILE OF PRE EDUCATION REGARDING LED UPON REGULATORS WITHIN THE DOLLAR SHORE AREA. ALSO, MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THIS ITEM? MOTION. SECOND, MAY WE HAVE A PRESENTATION? UM, THIS IS A CONVERSATION REGARDING ELECTRONIC CAMERA TRAILERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE INSTALLED IN THE PUB, TWO PUBLIC LOTS IN THE PUBLIC CHART AREA. SO THE FIRST ONE BEING THE PARKING LOT BEHIND THE PUBLIC PARKING LOT BEHIND DOGS, AND THEN THE PUBLIC PARKING LOT BEHIND. AND A LITTLE BIT OF BACKSTORY TO HOW THIS CAME UP. UM, YOU KNOW THAT WITH OVER THE LAST YEAR THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF INCREASE IN LATE NIGHT ACTIVITY IN THE AREA. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO MITIGATE THAT. PUBLIC WORKS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. OUR PARKING AND MOBILITY OFFICER HAVE ALL HAD A MEETING AND THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS RECOMMENDED THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH LOOKING INTO ELECTRONIC CAMERA CHAIRS. SOMETHING HERE AGAIN, JUST TO SEE IF THAT WOULD HELP, UM, MITIGATE THOSE PROBLEM AREAS THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING. AND SO THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM HAS BEEN GOING AND MEETING WITH EAM TO LOOK AT INSTALLING THOSE. AND THIS IS A REPORT, LIKE KIND OF A PROPOSAL THAT THEY'VE PRESENTED TO US. UM, I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FIRST BECAUSE OUR VENDOR REP THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE, UNFORTUNATELY HAD TO RESCHEDULE. SO BEAR WITH ME AS I GO THROUGH THIS . UM, HOWEVER, AT THE END, IF WE HAVE ANY [00:40:01] KIND OF QUESTIONS THAT WE WANT TO ASK THE THE VENDOR, I CAN ALWAYS REACH OUT AND GET ANSWERS SO THAT WAY I CAN BRING IT BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING. I'M GONNA TRY AND HAVE THE VENDOR COME BACK IN OCTOBER. UM, YOU KNOW, REMAIN SCHEDULING WORKS OUT OKAY. BUT, UM, YEAH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THAT'S, AND LET'S WE CAN ALL GO AROUND AND I'LL RUN 'EM DOWN AND GET IT TO OUR, TO OUR REP. UM, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF LIKE, THE FIRST PAGES ARE JUST BACKGROUND ON E CAMM THEMSELVES. WHAT I'D LIKE FOR EVERYONE TO TURN TO IS PAGE 24 OR SIX OF THE DOCUMENT ON E CAMM THAT SAYS VIDEO MONITORING SOLUTIONS. UM, THAT GIVES A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND ON WHAT THIS, UM, WHAT THIS THESE TRAILER DO. SO THEY'VE, UM, I'M GONNA JUST KIND OF READ FROM THIS TO GIVE EVERYONE A LITTLE BIT OF MORE INFORMATION. UM, THE INDUSTRY BACKGROUND IS SECURITY INDUSTRY HAS TYPICALLY REACTED TO LAUNCH TRIGGERS, BEAMS, MOTION SENSORS, AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THE FACT. BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF CAMERAS ARE INSTALLED BELOW AND WATCHING IN REAL TIME. WHAT EAM PROACTIVE SOLUTIONS DOES IS THAT THEY PROVIDE PROACTIVE SOLUTIONS, OFTEN CATCHING SU SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY BEFORE THE CRIME HAS OCCURRED. EAM CAN PROACTIVELY WATCH CAMERAS WHENEVER THERE IS INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR ACTIVITY. HE CAN'T LOOK FOR CARS OR PEOPLE AND THEN USES HUMAN JUDGMENT TO DETERMINE THE INTENT. ACTIVATING SPEAKERS OR SOMETIMES DISPATCHING POLICE WHILE THE INCIDENT IS IN PROGRESS IS THE KEY DIFFERENCE WITH E CAM VERSUS OTHER EVENT BASED SYSTEMS OFFERED BY THESE COMPETITORS. SO WHEN, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE WERE TO WALK BY OR SOMEONE'S WAITERING, THEY'LL BE, UH, YOU KNOW, A SPEAKER WHILE ACTIVATE SAYING NO LAWYERING OR WHATNOT. IF THEY NEED TO ESCALATE IT, THEY HAVE A LINE TO LONG BEACH PD THAT THEY CAN CALL AND REPORT THE ACTIVITY IMMEDIATELY. SO THAT WAY WE CAN GET POLICE OVER THERE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE IF THIS SITUATION NEEDS TO BE ESCALATED FURTHER. UM, THEY USE, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL TOOLS LIKE CAMERA DATA NOTIFICATION SYSTEMS. THEY HAVE SERVICE SYSTEMS, CENTRALIZED REPORTING. WHENEVER THERE'S A INCIDENT THAT HAPPENS DURING THE WEEKEND, I THINK, UM, OVERNIGHT IS GONNA BE WHERE A LOT OF THE ACTIVITY IS. BUT IF THERE'S EVER AN INSTANCE WHERE THEY NEED TO ACTIVATE THE SPEAKER OR CALL PD, THERE'S GONNA BE A REPORT GENERATED AND SENT TO THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM. SO THAT WAY PUBLIC WORKS IS AWARE OF THE EVENT. AND WHAT WE CAN DO IS LOOK AT THESE AND KIND OF PRESENT OR, YOU KNOW, SHOW THE COMMISSION ACTIVITY THAT'S BEEN GOING ON IN THAT AREA. A GOOD WAY TO SHOW THEM A PAPER TRAIL, LIKE WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. AND THEN, UM, THEY ALSO HAVE REMOTE MAINTENANCE. SO THEY WOULD, THEY HAVE, THE CAMERAS ARE AVAILABLE 24 7, HOWEVER, UM, ACTIVE MONITORING WILL ONLY BE AVAILABLE OVER NIGHT. SO, AND HOWEVER WE'LL BE ABLE TO CONTACT THE EAM TEAM IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS DURING THE DAY. THEY HAVE THAT 24 HOUR ACCESS SO THEY CAN GO THROUGH, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN WHATEVER HOUR THE INCIDENT HAPPENED AND THEY CAN GO LOOK AND SEE WHAT, WHAT HAPPENED. BUT THESE IS ALL, UM, THESE ARE ALL POSITIVE, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT THOSE HAVE FOR THIS E CAM TRAILER AND RIGHT. OVERNIGHT IS WHAT, WHAT SEVEN TO 6:00 AM 7:00 PM TO SIX, 6:00 AM YEAH. AND THEN THEY HAVE NO REMOTE MAINTENANCE AS WELL. SO IF SOMETHING WERE TO GO WRONG, THEY CAN NOTIFY US IF THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH THE CAMERA OR AN ISSUE WITH THE SPEAKER. AND THEN E CAMM THEMSELVES WOULD GO AND REPAIR THAT FOR THAT ITEM. UM, AND THEY WOULD CREATE A REPORT TO US PUBLIC WORKS SPECIFICALLY TO LET EVERYONE KNOW, WE'LL BE LOOKING ON THIS CAMERA IF THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH X, Y, AND Z IF THERE IS. UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S BASICALLY THE IDEA OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY MAYBE LAY THAT ACTIVITY IN THE AREA. THE NEXT PAGE, UM, MOBILE SURVEILLANCE SOLUTIONS HAS, YOU KNOW, JUST GOES INTO DETAIL OVER ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT THEY CAN DO. THEY'VE GOT SURVEILLANCE, SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS, INTRUSION DETECTION SYSTEMS, SECURITY ANALYTICS, PERIMETER SECURITY. THEY CAN UTILIZE, UM, GEO-FENCING TECHNOLOGIES, WHICH WE'RE NOT GONNA USE. THEY HAVE REMOTE MONITORING AND CONTROL. AND SO WE WON'T NEED ANYONE PHYSICALLY ON SITE BECAUSE THESE CAMERAS WILL BE HERE, WILL BE, YOU KNOW, WILL BE THE EYES AND STAFF FOR, FOR EVERYONE. UH, BRIAN, JUST TO GIVE IT SOME CONTEXT THOUGH, WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT SOLUTIONS FOR MONITORING, UH, THE PARKING LOTS THAT THE CITY, UM, WHICH WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THE PARKING [00:45:01] COMMISSION. AND SO THERE'S BEEN MANY DIFFERENT IDEAS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS SINCE I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN AND UH, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING THAT'S COST EFFECTIVE ALSO AFFECT PERIOD AS FAR AS DETERMINING, YOU KNOW, PROBLEMS IN THE LOCK CELLS. UM, BECAUSE MOST THINGS DO HAPPEN AFTER HOURS IS WHERE WE, YOU KNOW, FIND, FIND PROBLEMS AND THEN THE MITIGATION IS NOT DISTURBING NEIGHBORS, FOR EXAMPLE. AND, YOU KNOW, BEING RESPECTFUL OF THE RESIDENTS. AND SO HAVING THAT BALANCE OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT ALSO DISTURBS RESIDENTS IS PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, PARTYING IN THE LOTS OR MAKES IT ILLEGAL IN THE LOTS. AND THEN THAT CREATES, UH, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY ILLEGAL. UH, IT CREATES ISSUES BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT JUST, WE KNOW THAT IS IMPACTED. THAT'S JUST A FACT. SO THEY CAN'T BE IN THOSE PARKING LOTS. SO WE NEED SOLUTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND EFFECTIVE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PUBLIC WORKS HAS BROUGHT ON THAT WE'RE GOING TO MONITOR, I WOULD CALL IT A PILOT. BUT YOU, I MEAN IT'S, YOU'RE, YOU'RE INITIATING IT TO YEAH. ENSURE THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN WORK AND PERHAPS YOU CAN TALK ABOUT WHERE IT BEING USED. 'CAUSE I THINK IF YOU DO HAVE IT IN HOUSTON, IN OTHER PLACES RIGHT. IN THE CITY. SO MAYBE GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THAT WORKS SO THAT YOU HAVE A LITTLE MORE CONTEXT. YEAH. AFTER SPEAKING WITH, UH, PARKING A MOBILITY OFFICER, UM, THEY HAD BEEN MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY USED THESE E CAMPS FOR VARIOUS BEACH LOTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND THEY'VE BEEN USING IT TO AVOID, AVOID DRINKS. 'CAUSE A LOT OF ORDERING EVIDENCE HAD DURING, YOU KNOW, DOWN BY THE BEACH AT NIGHT. AND SO THEY, THEY'VE, THEY'VE EXPLAINED THAT THEY'VE SEEN A LOT OF LIKE DECREASE IN ACTIVITY DUE TO THE USE OF THOSE CAMP, THOSE HEAT CAMP TRAILERS. AND THEY CAN IMMEDIATELY CONTACT THE PE AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY GET, THEY GET REPORTING EVERY WEEKEND OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON SO THAT THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, EFFECTIVELY SEE THAT IT'S WORKING. AND THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION FROM PUBLIC WORKS AND THE DIRECTOR THAT MAYBE SINCE WE'VE SEEN A POSITIVE IMPACT IN REACH LOSS, THAT MAYBE THIS WOULD HELP IN THE, UM, IN THE BOX BEHIND LIKE THE BUSIER INSIDE THE BARS. AND SO WHAT OUR PLAN IS, IS TO DO THIS FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS AND THEN RECONVENE AT THE MAYBE MONTH FIVE AND SEE OVER THE LAST LIKE FIVE MONTHS WHAT WE'VE, ALL THE REPORTS THAT WE'VE HAD AND YOU KNOW, HAVE WE, DO WE FEEL LIKE IT'S A JUSTIFIED EXPENSE IN TERMS OF MONEY AND EXPENSE? IT'S ABOUT NOT INCLUDING INSTALLATION FEES, BUT IT'S ABOUT 1600 A MONTH PER UNIT. SO ABOUT 3,200 A MONTH FOR TWO. SO WE WANNA START WITH TWO. IF WE WANT TO ADD MORE, THEN WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL LATER DOWN THE END. UM, AFTER ABOUT LIKE SIX MONTHS RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A CONTRACT FOR, FOR SIX MONTHS AND THEN AT THE END REEVALUATE, WE CAN ADD TRACK JUST DEPENDING ON HOW, HOWEVER, IT DOES TAKE UP A PARKING SPACE. UM, BUT JUST ONE PARKING SPACE. AND I THINK THAT IF, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVING, YOU KNOW, TAKING AWAY ONE MARKETING SPACE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, 24 HOUR MONITORING WITH AN AREA THAT IS MOBILE LIKE THIS I THINK IS GONNA BE . UH, YOU WERE ASKING FOR QUESTIONS OR RESEARCH THAT WE MIGHT HAVE. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WOULD BE HOW LONG DOES IT RETAIN THE INFORMATION, UH, THAT IT REPORTS. AND WE HAVE POSITION, UH, YOU DO HAVE POST LAYOUT SOLUTIONS. YOU, YOU SHOW IT BEHIND AND THE THAT LOOKS SAY IT IS THIS DOGS, THIS IS DOGS THAT DOGS, OH THIS IS, IT'S EASIER TO HAVE COLOR IF YOU WANNA SEE IT. YEAH. JUST AS A FYI PROPOSALS FOR DOGS AND PAN LIKE THOSE ARE ON ALMOST IDENTICAL. SO DIDN'T WANNA WASTE PAPER YOU PRINT TO SHOW, BUT IT WAS BASIC. BUT IT IS BASICALLY THE SAME THING. THE PROPOSED LAYOUT. IT'S, I MEAN IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT SET IN STONE. WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT WHERE EXACTLY WE GONNA BE YET. UM, SO THAT STUFF I LATER, SO I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, SO WHEN I NOTICED IT IS, YOU KNOW, BEHIND DOGS, BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT PARKING LOT FURTHER EAST IS NOT COVERED MM-HMM . RIGHT? SO ISN'T THIS PARKING LOT AT JUST AS MUCH OF ACTIVITY AS THIS ONE? IT'S NOT. ALRIGHT. CAN YOU SEE THAT [00:50:02] COLOR? SO IT, IT JUST COVERS HALF BECAUSE HALF SO WOULD WE A PARKING LOT TO THE EAST OF IT. YEAH. BUT IS THAT ENOUGH? I KNOW IT'S JUST THE PILOT, RIGHT? WE'RE JUST SEEING RIGHT NOW, RIGHT. THAT THAT, THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BRING, WE SHOULD BRING UP IN THE, YOU KNOW, AFTER SIX MONTHS IF WANNA ADD ORDER, WE CAN ADD ANYONE DEPENDING ON THE LOT SPECIFICALLY, I NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT LOT. 'CAUSE SOME LOTS IN THE AREA ARE NOT ALL PUBLIC, NOT SOME OF 'EM ARE SPLIT. LIKE HALF OF THEM ARE, HALF OF 'EM AREN'T. AND SO WE DON'T WANT, THAT'S THE SITUATION. WE DON'T YEAH. WE DON'T WANT PUT UH, E CAM SHARE IN A PRIVATE LOT. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WILL OKAY. AND THEN DO, DO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, 'CAUSE DO YOU SEE HOW IT'S SET UP THIS CAMERA? DO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, HEAR IT AND LIKE MESS WITH THE CAMERAS OR THE ANNOUNCERS OR LIKE HAVE THEY HAVE ANY HISTORY OF PEOPLE ? YEAH. FEEL LIKE IF SOMEONE'S SMART ENOUGH TO DO WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING OR PARKING ON, THEY'D BE ABLE TO TURN IT OFF OR PULL WITH IT. AND THEN I NOTICED ALSO THAT YOU MENTIONED 24 HOUR, UM, MONITORING BY ONLY 12 HOUR LINE. IT DOES LOOK HERE THAT YOU HAVE 24 HOURS ON SUNDAY FOR THIS MONITORING LEVEL ONE. SO IT'S 12 HOURS MONDAY TO SATURDAY. RIGHT? SO THAT'S PROBABLY BY SIX SIX OR SEVEN. SEVEN. BUT IS THAT, DOES THAT MEAN LIKE WITH THE 24 HOUR SUNDAY, IS THAT LIKE, I GUESS I WANTED TO KNOW THE HOURS AT 7:00 PM SATURDAY THROUGH 7:00 PM SUNDAY, THIS IS A, THIS ISN'T THE OFFICIAL TIMEFRAME THAT WE'RE USING. THAT WAS JUST A WE TO, TO GET A QUOTE. UM, DO YOU, SO IT'LL BE, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE FOOTAGE 24 7, BUT FOR MONITORING ON WEEKENDS IT'S GONNA BE FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY, 7:00 PM TO 6:00 AM THAT'S GONNA BE WITH US. SOMEONE ACTIVELY LATE HAS, HAS A MONITOR THERE IN THEIR UNIT, LIKE JUST WATCHING OR HAVING THEM BE ALERTED IF SOMETHING WERE TO GO ON. UM, BUT DURING THE WEEK THERE WON'T BE, BUT THERE WILL BE 24 HOUR FOOTAGE THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE IF SOMETHING WERE TO GO UP. AND HOW LONG, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. HOW LONG WILL WE BE ABLE TO, WILL WE BE KEEPING THAT DATA? IE YOU KNOW, OH GEE, THE ACCIDENT HAPPENED BUT WE DIDN'T REPORT IT FOR A MONTH AND OG WE DELETED EVERYTHING. UH, . MM-HMM . DO WE KNOW ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA ADD. WE'RE GONNA HAVE AGENDA. WELL, AND I THINK THERE WAS ANOTHER, WE, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE JUNE MEETING AS WELL. UM, THE COMMISSIONERS WANTED MORE INFORMATION, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING THIS PROPOSAL. UM, WE, ONE OF THE RESIDENTS MENTIONED ABOUT LIGHTING AND NOISE. THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING I'M GONNA BE LOOKING UP TO AND HAVE THE VENDOR KIND OF LIKE, GIVE US SOME BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW IT WORKS BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S SOME SORT OF LIGHT THAT ON THERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ON 24 7 OR IF IT'S JUST TO SCARE PEOPLE IN A MOVIE. YOU KNOW, LIKE MOTION CAMERA OR MOTION ONE LIGHT, THE ONE BLUE LIGHT THAT'S REALLY SMALL, RIGHT? YEAH. THERE'S A LIGHT, THERE'S A LIGHT ON TOP. YEAH. SO THAT, THAT WAS SET THE QUESTION THAT WE HAD IN DIRECT, WE HAVE THAT DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER ANSWERED BEST. I'M SORRY, DID WE SAY, I APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T HEAR IT. CAN WE SAY WHEN WE'RE PUTTING THIS IN, WE'RE STARTING THE PILOT. WE'RE, WE DON'T HAVE A WE DON'T HAVE A DATE ON IT YET. UM, WE'RE WORKING, WE'RE WORKING ON THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS RIGHT NOW TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS. HOPING TO HAVE IT IN WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH, SIX WEEKS. THAT'S OUR ESTIMATE HAPPEN. THE ANNOUNCING PART OF IT, THAT ONLY HAPPENS WHEN AN ACTUAL YEAH. HUMAN MONITOR YEAH. PERSON IS SAYING SOMETHING. YEAH. AND THEN SAYS IT'S NOT LIKE SOME PRE-RECORDED THING THAT'S KIND OF OKAY NOW IT WILL BE SOMEONE THERE THAT HAS TO JUDGE HOW TO HAVE TO INTERVENE, WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH A SPEAKER OR THROUGH THE LIGHT OR TO CALL PT IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT SO WE HAVE A VIRTUAL MONITOR PERSON THAT'S AWAKE DURING THOSE TIMES. YEAH. . YEAH. AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING, AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA TRY AND HAVE THE VENDOR COME BACK IN OCTOBER TO GIVE LIKE A BETTER RUNDOWN OF THIS. 'CAUSE THEY CAN DO A BUNCH BETTER THAN I AM. HOWEVER, UM, AND THESE ARE ALL GOOD QUESTIONS TO ASK. I THINK THIS IS, THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE REP WILL BE ABLE TO ASSIST WITH. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE SPECIFICALLY ASSIGNED TO ONE UNIT OR MULTIPLE UNITS. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE LIKE THE WELL SCREENS OPEN, THEY'RE LIKE LOOKING LIKE A, LIKE A SPY MOVIE OR SOMETHING , YOU KNOW. BUT, UH, WE'LL DEFINITELY TRY AND GET MORE INFORMATION, BUT WE HAVE HISTORY OF THEM BEING USED IN THE CITY ALREADY. YEAH. POINT TO THAT AS WHAT HAS HAPPENED AND HOW IT'S OPERATED. YEAH. AND WE PROBABLY GOT SOME PUBLIC FEEDBACK ALREADY ON THOSE CAMERAS [00:55:01] AS TO A, IS IT NOISE TOO LOUD? B YEAH. ARE WE BING SOMEBODY'S PRIVACY? SURE. ARE WE GONNA GET IN THAT WHOLE SITUATION? SURE. YOU KNOW, AND SO THAT, THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS. I OBVIOUSLY YOU GUYS HAVE PROBABLY ALREADY FIGURED THAT OUT LEGALLY, BUT WE AS A COMMISSION AND ME AS A NOVICE DON'T UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT. , I I TO FOLLOW YEAH. TO FOLLOW. AND THEN I, I DO KNOW THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE E CAM DRILLERS THAT HAVE BEEN INSTALLED, THE MOBILITY OFFICER SHOWED THAT THEY REALLY LIKED THE REPORTING BECAUSE IT'S A WHAT HAPPENED? WHO'S THERE, WHAT DID WE EVEN SOLVE IT? CAN WE OR CAN THE MOBILITY OFFICER COME TALK AT OUR NEXT MEETING AND TELL US WHAT THEY'RE UM, YEAH, I CAN ASK THEM. YEAH, I CAN ASK THEM TO COME TEXT ME AND DISCUSS IT MORE. YEAH. WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS THE REFLEX? OH, COULD THEY, COULD THE MOBILITY OFFICER COME AND TALK WHAT THEY'RE SEEING IN THE BEACH LOT AND IF IT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL AND, AND I WONDER HOW THIS COMPANY WAS PICKED. OBVIOUSLY THE CITY HAD ALREADY SCREENED THEM AND YEAH, THESE ARE THE SAME E CAMP SHOWS THAT ARE USED IN THE OTHER LOTS PROBLEM. SO IF IT WORKS FOR THAT US KIND OF, OKAY. SO WE WILL NOW TAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS. ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK RAISE YOUR HOPE. OKAY. DO YOU WANT, DO YOU WANNA CALL ON THE FOLKS? SURE. UM, HI. SO JULIE, UM, RESIDENT, SO ASIDE FROM THIS COMPANY'S MARKETING MATERIAL SOUNDING LIKE THE FILM MINORITY REPORT, UM, I'D LIKE TO, WELL, AS WAS JUST DISCUSSED, I I WAS HOPING THAT WE WOULD HAVE THAT INFORMATION THIS TIME SINCE WE ASKED IT BACK IN JUNE. UM, BUT I, I WANNA KNOW THE IMPACT NEAR MY RESIDENCE AND I HOPE THAT THE LIGHT ATTACHED TO THE CAMERA AND THE SOUND AND VOICE DEVICE FROM THE DEVICE DON'T NEGATIVELY AFFECT OUR NEIGHBORS. UM, AND TO PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT EACH PARKING LOTS ARE A VERY DIFFERENT SITUATION. THEY ARE, THEY HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL, BUT THEY ARE NOT NEAR RESIDENCE. SO, UM, SO IT'S KIND OF TOUGH TO COMPARE THAT. UM, AND THAT'S ALL. THANKS. THANK YOU. HEY, I'M NOT SURE THE PERSON LEFT IF YOU WANNA SURE. I ROSS TURNER, THE PERSON ON THE LEFT. . I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO FRICKING START, FOLKS. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO STEP BACK AND ASK WHY THESE PEOPLE ARE CONGREGATING IN THESE PARKING LOTS TO BEGIN WITH. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BEING INVITED EVERY WEEKEND BY DOGS, BY PANAMA JOES, BY LEGENDS, BY CHENS. AND SURE, THERE'S SOME BENEFIT, I SUPPOSE, TO THE RESIDENTS IF THESE CAMERAS WORK AND AREN'T MORE ANNOYING THAN THE NOISE THAT'S BEING CREATED TO BEGIN WITH. BUT FRANKLY, THIS SOUNDS LIKE A WAY FOR DOGS AND LEGENDS AND PANAMA JOES, UH, TO HOW USE PUBLIC MONEY TO SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT THEY'VE CAUSED. AND IT REALLY P****S ME OFF. AND I ALSO DON'T LIKE THE LANGUAGE WE'RE USING IN THIS MEETING. I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THINGS SQUEAKY CLEAN, BUT USING LANGUAGE LIKE MITIGATING ACTIVITY. BUT REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS CUTTING BACK. YOU THINK IT'S FUNNY? NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. I, I AGREE WITH YOU. THE THING THAT PEOPLE ARE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, RESIDENTS AND COMMERCIAL ARE MURDERS ARE PUBLIC VIOLENCE, ARE PUBLIC DRINKING. THESE THINGS AREN'T HAPPENING IN TWO PARKING LOTS. THEY'RE HAPPENING ALL OVER BELMONT SHORE BECAUSE OF THE LATE NIGHT ACTIVITY INVITED BY THESE FOUR BUSINESSES. SORRY TO RAISE MY VOICE, BUT I THINK THIS POINT CANNOT BE OVER EMPHASIZED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONFIDENCE. I MOVED DOWN AT THE END ONE TAKE PERSON. I'M THE PERSON TO THE LEFT. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS JEFF SHAMSKY. THANK YOU. UM, I WOULD LOVE IF THESE CAMERA RETENTION'S AN INTERESTING REQUIREMENT BECAUSE IF IT'S $1,600 A MONTH AT THIS PERIOD OF RETENTION, IT MIGHT BE $1,800 A MONTH FOR A LONGER PERIOD, RETENTION OVER $1,400 A MONTH FOR A SHORTER PERIOD OF RETENTION DEPENDING ON WHAT ACTION YOU WANT TO TAKE FROM THE RECORDING YOU'RE RECORDING. UH, I WOULD LIKE THE CAMERA COMPANY TO ALSO POSSIBLY, UH, RECOMMEND IF THE DECIBEL LEVEL OF A SOUND IN THAT PARKING LOT IS TO A PARTICULAR LEVEL VERSUS THE ACTIVITY IN THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE MONITORING THE ACTIVITY, THAT'S [01:00:01] ONE THING. BUT IF THE SOUND AS SOMEONE WHO LIVES, I LIVE ON THETO, UH, WITH A VERY BEAUTIFUL PARKING COMMISSIONER AND, UH, THAT SOUND FROM THAT PARKING LOT BEHIND PANAMA JOE'S. THERE ARE SOME FOLKS IN, UH, THAT DECIDE TO ROLL UP IN THEIR CARS AND, UH, LOUD MUSIC IS OBNOXIOUS. UH, AND THE, THE, THE TALKING IS VERY, IT IS JUST LOUD. UH, SO A DECIBEL METER ON THOSE, UH, THINGS TO, ON THOSE CAMERAS THAT WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE SOME SORT OF ACTION. TAKE BALL, TAKE A BALL, TAKE A BALL, WORD , TAKE IT INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD. THAT'S RIGHT. ANYWAY. SO, UH, IF, IF A DECIBEL LEVEL IS REACHED, UM, THEN THERE'S SOME REACTION, UH, WOULD BE GREAT. NOT JUST THE ACTIVITY THAT YOU COULD VISUALLY SEE, BUT, UH, MAYBE THE SOUND IS TOO LOUD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES. UM, I'M QUESTIONING ABOUT CSI, THE PROVISION PAYS $275,000 A YEAR TO CSI. WHAT WORK HAVE THEY DONE IN THESE PARKING LOTS? WHAT RESULTS HAVE THEY HAD? AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT WE ALMOST NEVER SEE THEM. THEY'RE, I THINK IN ABOUT THREE MONTHS I'VE SEEN THREE CSI PERSONS ON THEIR BICYCLE IN THE ALLEY BEHIND THE, LET'S JOKE ABOUT IT, I THINK ONE ACROSS THE STREET. AND JUST YESTERDAY THEY, ONE OF THEM WAS SITTING WITH HIS BICYCLE ON THE STOOP OF THE BUILDING AT THE CORNER OF BAY SHORT SECOND. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT WITH BICYCLES, THEY'RE AFRAID TO BE OUT TRAFFIC, BUT WHAT WE NEED ARE WALKING PEOPLE WHO INTERACT WITH THE PUBLIC AND WHO ARE THE EYES AND EARS. I UNDERSTAND THEY WORK OVERNIGHT AT THE PARKING LOTS AND CAN DO SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE NOW HIRING TO DO. SO I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT THEIR ACTUAL WORK PRODUCT IS. UM, AND COULD I, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? IF THE PUBLIC ASKS A QUESTION, IF A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION ALSO THEN SAYS, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, CAN THEY TALK ABOUT IT? BECAUSE RIGHT AT THE MOMENT WE SAY SOMETHING AND WE DON'T GET ANY FEEDBACK. YES. SO IF THE COMMISSION MEMBER SAYS, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, THEN YOUR HONOR IS CONCLUDED THAT WE GET CONCLUDED. PERFECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SPEAKER. HI MICHELLE. SIMON, I JUST WANNA PUT THIS IN A LARGER CONTEXT OF A NATIONAL CONVERSATION ABOUT SURVEILLANCE AND OUR SURVEILLANCE STATE, RIGHT? IST AN ISSUE THAT'S JUST FOR OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE IS A NATIONAL BACK FACTOR GOING ON, PARTICULARLY WITH THE PLOT CAMERA, UM, COMPANY. YOU KNOW, I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU ASKED A GOOD QUESTION, DEB, ABOUT HOW LONG IS THE DATA KEPT? WHO IS THE DATA SHARED WITH? IS THE DATA AVAILABLE ONLINE? RIGHT. I MEAN, THIS IS REALLY TURNING ON, WE NEED TO PUT INTO A SURVEILLANCE DATE FOR REASONS THAT MY HUSBAND ALREADY MENTIONED. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE SORT OF PILING ON. LIKE GLENDA SAID, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE SECURITY WHILE THAT APPARENTLY HASN'T WORKED. SO NOW WE'RE SPENDING MORE MONEY ON SECURITY CAMERAS THAT HAVE NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES, AS SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE RIGHTLY POINTED OUT. SO I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I'M, I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED THAT THE REP FROM THE COMPANY ISN'T HERE. AND I ARE CERTAINLY CAPABLE OF, YOU KNOW, CONVEYING OUR ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER AND WOULD BE WHO THIS BODY TO REALLY RESCHEDULE THIS CONVERSATION. I KNOW THE BUDGET ITEM AND ALL THIS HAS BEEN APPROVED JUST BY RESIDENT OBJECTIONS. WHAT WE REALLY NEED AS A SIDE NOTE, IS A RESIDENT, UM, SURVEY TO SAY, WELL, WHAT THE RESIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THINK ABOUT HAVING CAMERAS RIGHT NEXT TO THEIR HOMES? UM, BUT ALL THIS IS TO SAY THERE'S A LOT MORE CONCERNS THAT I THINK SHOULD WE SHOULD BE DISCUSSING. AND, UM, BEFORE MOVING HEAD PROJECT, THANK ANY OTHER S DEVELOPMENT LEGAL ASSOCIATION. I BELIEVE THAT THE EAM PROJECT IS SOMETHING THAT IS COMING STRAIGHT FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY, INDEPENDENT OF THE PARKING COMMISSION. I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW IT'S INTERRELATED EXCEPT FOR THE CITY LETTING THE PARKING COMMISSION KNOW THAT THIS IS HAPPENING. WE'RE NOT REALLY VOTING ON THIS REVEAL THIS, IT'S ALREADY BEING DEMO. WE, IF I THINK, DOES THAT CONCLUDE PUBLIC? SORRY. YOU HAVE TO WAIT. PERFECT. THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC, THE COMMENT. ALRIGHT. SO COMMISSIONERS FURTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH. OKAY. SO I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. I APPRECIATED HEARING THAT. SO IS WHAT HEATHER SAID. [01:05:01] TRUE. LIKE WE DON'T HAVE ANY SAY WHETHER THESE CAMERAS GOING OR NOT. YEAH. BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PUBLIC WORKS HAS SHARED WITH US AS A PILOT PROJECT THAT THEY'RE DOING. SO IF YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THAT, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE YEAH. DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS ASKED TO LOOK INTO. SO IT'S KIND OF A A, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BASICALLY UNLESS WE PAY FOR IT, EVEN THOUGH PUBLIC WORKS IS, SO WE'RE MARRYING IT. YEAH, IT'S PUBLIC. UH, IT'S FOR ACTIVITY IN THE MONT PARKING COMMISSION AREA. SO ACTIVITY IN THAT AREA NEEDS TO BE, UM, PAID FOR USING THOSE ONES. WE'RE AN ADVISORY BODY TOO. SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE MAKING THIS CALL. IT'S A PILOT, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL GIVE US FEEDBACK. WE HAVEN'T, WE ALSO CAN ADVISE ON WHAT WE THINK ABOUT THE PROPOSAL OR WHAT WE SEE, OR WE CAN TAKE, WE'RE HEARING PUBLIC COMMENTS, SO THEY'RE BEEN FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE DON'T HAVE INPUT AND IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN'T EVALUATE IT LATER, BUT THAT THEY STILL HAVE THE RIGHT AS PUBLIC WORKS TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PARKING LOTS. YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS A LIGHT THAT WAS BURNED OUT, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GET OUR PERMISSION TO REPLACE. SO THERE, THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT, I MEAN, I, I WOULD SAY, I MEAN, IS THAT, YEAH. IS, IS THAT PRETTY MUCH HOW IT GOES REALLY? I MEAN THAT PUBLIC WORKS HAS TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT THE CITY PROPERTY, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY GET THE FEEDBACK AND SHAPE DECISIONS BASED ON WHAT WE SEE HAPPENING. AND HOPEFULLY THEY MAKE IT BETTER BECAUSE WE'RE DOING . SO IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE HEAR, HEAR FROM US. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC TOO. SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT. THAT'S AN INTERESTING ROSS'S COMMENT THAT THEY, WE REALLY THINK ALL OF THIS STUFF IS HAPPENING AFTER HOURS AS A RESULT OF THE BARS. IS THERE A REASON THAT THEY DON'T CONTRIBUTE SOME, IF NOT ALL OF THIS FEE? I, I CAN'T COMMENT ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU, I CAN'T SPECULATE WHETHER THAT'S TRUE OR NOT TRUE. I MEAN, PUBLIC SAFETY IS A, A BROADER ISSUE, YOU KNOW, THAT JUST, YOU KNOW, HAVING ANY ANYONE ENTITY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SAYING THAT IT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE. I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IS BEYOND OUR PURVIEW AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SAFETY. AND, YOU KNOW, OVERALL, WHAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ARE THE PARKING LOTS, RIGHT. WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THE CITY'S PROPERTY, WHICH IS IN THE PARKING LOT. YEAH. BUT WE, WE ARE NOT THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY. WE, WE ARE HERE TO KEEP SCIENCE STREET BEAUTIFUL, CLEAN, THRIVING, YOU KNOW, KEEP THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN SHAPE. WE'RE HERE TO, UH, BEAUTIFY AND, UM, AND MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THIS IS A THRIVING COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITHIN THE CONTEXT AND AND RESIDENCY THAT WE ARE NOT IMPACTING THE RESIDENTS, BUT WE ARE WORKING ALONGSIDE AND POSITIVE IMPACT ON SECONDARY. I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR AREAS THAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR FROM HAND TO END AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC PARKING SPOTS. BUT THE PUBLIC PARKING LOTS, OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE BEING SAFE. IT'S SAFE IN THE SENSE THAT THE EQUIPMENT'S NOT BEING DAMAGED. THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY'RE NOT BEING ENCROACHED. YOU KNOW, THAT WE, AS, AS YOU WERE MENTIONING ABOUT THE OVERGROWTH ON THE BEATERS FOR EXAMPLE, OR WHEN CARS PULL IN AND THEY GET SCRATCHED, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S MAINTAINED. SO THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE HAVE PURVIEW OVER AND THEY'RE COMMUNICATING TO US THAT THEY'RE DOING A PILOT. SO WE'RE HELPING THAT, WE'RE MONITORING IT. WE'LL GET FEEDBACK ON PILOT, BUT ULTIMATELY PUBLIC WORKS WILL TO SAY, OKAY, YES, I SECOND THAT. THAT WHY GOING ASSOCIATION BEING IN CHARGE OF PAYING FOR SOMETHING THAT THE RETAILERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR PARKING. WELL, THE PARKING METER FUNDS ARE USED TO IMPROVE THE PARKING LOTS, TO CLEAN THE SIDEWALKS TO KEEP THE CARE. SO PARKING LOTS FOR THE PUBLIC ASSETS. PUBLIC ASSETS. OKAY. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE DIFFERENTIATOR, YOU KNOW, NOT THE PUBLIC PER SE, NOT WE DON'T CARE, BUT THAT'S JUST HOW IT'S WRITTEN. PUBLIC ASSETS IS. SO THAT'S OKAY. UM, AND THEN LINDA'S COMMENT ALSO WAS VERY VALID ABOUT THAT. UM, PSI, ARE THEY WORKING EVENINGS? DO THEY WORK THAT 10:00 PM TO 6:00 AM SHIFT? THEY WORK, THEY WORK OVERNIGHT ON WEEKENDS. WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON GETTING A REPORTING TOOL FOR THEM TO PRESENT SO THAT WE CAN PRESENT AT THESE MONTHLY MEETINGS. UH, KIND OF SIMILAR TO WHAT PCAM DOES. UM, WE HAD JUST, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE BOTH LIKE TO GET A BETTER, UH, BIG PICTURE, LONG, LONG-WINDED EXAMPLE IS WE [01:10:01] HAD A LOT OF BREAKINS IN THE AREA. A LOT OF LIKE PUBLIC ASSETS WERE GETTING, UM, WE'RE GETTING DAMAGED. SO WE TALKED ABOUT GETTING THE SECURITY TEAM. WE HAD A SECURITY TEAM FOR A WHILE AND WE HAD EF THE REMAINING FUNDS FOR THE, OR FOR THE SECURITY TEAM. SO THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDED THAT PUBLIC WORKS CONTINUE BY GOING TO AN RFP FOR SECURITY SERVICES. WE DID THAT. WE HAVE A, UM, SECURITY TEAM AND A NEW CONTRACT AS OF JUNE 1ST OF THIS YEAR. IT'S FOR SIX MONTHS WITH AN OPTION TO EXTEND ANOTHER SIX MONTHS. AND WITHIN THAT RFP WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CSI PATROL IS OUR SECURITY TEAM. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CSI TO GATHER SOME SORT OF REPORTING THAT WE CAN PRESENT AT THE NEXT MEETING. MONTHLY ACTIVITY. SO SIMILAR TO THE E CAM, WHAT, WHAT ARE THEIR PHONE CALLS BEING? WHAT ARE THE PHONE CALLS CONSIST CONSIST OF? IS IT MOVING SOMEONE, IS IT, YOU KNOW, MOVING ACTIVITY, MOVING ACTIVITY FROM THE PARKING LOTS OR WHATNOT? WE'RE TRYING TO GET MONTHLY REPORTING SO YOU CAN SEE THE ACTIONABLE THINGS THAT CSI DOING. AND THEN WE'RE GONNA USE THAT AND GO, YOU KNOW, USE THAT FOR A FEW MONTHS. AND THEN I RIGHT NOW RECOMMEND THAT WE WOULD EXTEND THE, SO THE CONTRACT ENDS ON DECEMBER 31ST. RIGHT NOW, I WOULD RECOMMEND EXTENDING IT ANOTHER SIX MONTHS TO SEE BIG PICTURE VERSUS WHAT IS AND CSI DO ONCE WE GET UP THOSE REPORTING AND CAN SEE, UM, BUT AT THE END OF, YEAH, THERE WOULD BE ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, CONVERSATION LATER DOWN THE ROAD TO DISCUSS WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE OR WE WANT TO CONTINUE SECURITY. BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVE A CONTRACT. WE'RE BE USING IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T, THERE WON'T BE ANYONE OUT THERE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN'T ASK FOR, UH, POLICE TO WALK THE BEAT WE THAT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR, OUTSIDE OF OUR AUTHORITY, WE MAYBE CAN ONLY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS UTILIZING MARSHALL PARKING NUCLEAR FUNDS. AND THAT'S JUST NOT THAT WE CAN'T USE THOSE FUNDS TO LIKE ASK FOR . THAT THAT KIND OF MAKES SENSE. SO IN ORDER TO DO WHAT WE CAN, WE DECIDED TO HAVE A SECURITY TEAM. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ACTIVITY AREA THEY DO OVER, THEY DO, UM, THURSDAY THROUGH FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY WE DO OVERNIGHT. AND THEN THERE'S DAYTIME SHIFTS AS WELL THAT OCCURRED. UM, IT, IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A WHILE. WE'RE HOPEFULLY WE'RE GONNA GET REPORTING SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT SAME SIZE EFFECTS DOING AND THEN GETTING FISH TO THE EAM OR HAVING MORE REPORTING SO THAT MAYBE WE CAN SEE, DO WE WANNA KEEP THE CAMERAS, GET RID OF SECURITY OR DO WE WANT TO KEEP SECURITY, GIVE RID THE CAMERAS, DO VICE VERSA. THESE ARE ALL, UM, IT'S ALL IN A TRANSITION PHASE RIGHT NOW, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW THROUGH DECEMBER, WE'LL HAVE SECURITY. WE'LL PROBABLY GO BACK TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION PROBABLY IN NOVEMBER. TALK ABOUT EXTENDING IT. SO WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK. WHAT'S THE DEADLINE FOR EXTENDING? BECAUSE IF WE GET, WE NEED TO SEE THE BOARDS FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS. SURE. AND IF WE THINK THOSE ARE SUFFICIENT TO MAKE SOME TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, ANALYSIS, THEN WE COULD TRANSFER THE RECORD WHY WE IN THE OTHER, UM, 'CAUSE THERE WOULD BE A COST SAVINGS. RIGHT. IF WE DON'T EXTEND. SO THAT'S JUST REALLY THE ASPECTS AND WHETHER WE ARE FEELING IT'S EFFECTIVE BECAUSE HAVING A REPORT LIKE THAT WILL ACTUALLY HELP US UNDERSTAND IF YOU KNOW THE DATA, YOU KNOW, HOW RATHER THAN JUST TRYING TO SEE IS. SO I THINK THAT'S GREAT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED. WE'RE WE'RE WORKING ACTIVELY WORKING ON IT. WE'LL HAVE IT SOON AND I MAYBE THIS HAS HAPPENED, BUT HAVE WE HAD A CSI REPRESENTATIVE COME UP AND TALK TO US ABOUT WHAT THEY DO, WHAT THEIR JURISDICTIONS ARE, WHAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO? YEAH, WE'VE HAD IT COME, WE'VE HAD SOMEONE COME OUT, UM, A WHILE AGO PROBABLY THIS WAS BEFORE THE NEW COMMISSIONERS, BUT UM, IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN HAVE THE CSI REPRESENTATIVE COME TO THE NEXT MEETING OR WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION AND UH, THEY CAN TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, THEIR AREA AND WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T DO. MM-HMM . UM, I DO KNOW THEY CAN'T, THEY, I KNOW THEY CAN'T ENFORCE OR LIKE, YOU KNOW, ARREST ANYONE OR DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT THEY, THEY CAN PO THEY CAN POSE AS A PRESENCE TO BE ABLE TO REPORT ACTIVITY. SO, UM, I I CLARIFICATION RIGHT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND BOTH OF THE REPORT IN US. IT'S THE FIRST TIME WE'RE GOING TO SEE THE REPORT. THAT WOULD BE THE TIME. OKAY. HOW LONG A COMMITMENT IF WE DO REVIEW THE CURRENT SIX MONTHS? IT'S SIX MONTHS. SIX MONTHS. YEAH. I WOULD HAVE A HARD TIME WITHOUT REPORTING. YEAH. I GOT COMMITMENT. I AGREE. THAT'S, THAT'S [01:15:01] TO THIS POINT. I'VE DONE NO REPORT BUT THIS NEW, THIS NEW RP AND THIS CONTRACT, THEN I'LL PERFECT. PROVIDE REPORTING TO A STAFF. AND SO, UM, YEAH, I WOULD, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DISCUSS IT MORE IN NOVEMBER AFTER WE TALK TO CSI, BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND EXTENDING IT ANOTHER SIX MONTHS. WE CAN SEE A LONG REPORTING IN TANDEM WITH THE EAM TO SEE WHICH ONE WORKS. OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER. YOU SAID NOVEMBER? NO, THE CSI REP I CAN GET IN OCTOBER. OKAY. BUT NOVEMBER WE, WE SHOULD PROBABLY, WE HAVE A CONVERSATION ON BEFORE DECEMBER. YEAH. BEFORE THE SECOND TO, YEAH. AND IF WE JUST HYPOTHE HYPOTHETICALLY, IF WE, IF WE DECIDED NOT TO RENEW, UH, THEN, THEN PUBLIC WORKS WOULD BE BUT WOULDN'T STAY RECOMMENDATION OR, BUT THEN THAT WOULD BE JANUARY 1ST. YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANY KIND OF SECURITY OR, OR ANYTHING WHATSOEVER BESIDES FROM Z CAMP. SO THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. UH, EXCUSE, THINK ABOUT. IS THAT SOMETHING WE WANTED TO LIVE WITHOUT? YEP. I ACTUALLY NEED TO LOOK AT HAVING BOTH HIGH UNDERGROUND AND JUST HAVING STATIONARY. THEY'RE JUST TAKING CARE , BUT SOMEBODY UP AND DOWN SECOND STREET IS VERY IMPORTANT PROBLEM. YEAH. OKAY. WELL GOOD. WE'LL HAVE THEM COME. THAT SOUNDS EXCELLENT. ANY DISCUSSION? WE GOT INCREASED REVENUES FROM THE PARK METER, SO THAT KIND OF HELPS YOU. BARBARA, PLEASE VOTE. SIR, WHAT ARE WE GOING ON? JUST THAT WE'VE HEARD THIS YES. TO RECEIVE FORM. JUST THAT WE'VE HEARD IT. YES. YES. MR. CLERK. AYE. COMMISSIONER CO. AYE. COMMISSIONER JEN. COMMISSIONER MILLER. MOTION CARES. ITEM SIX, [6. 26-55872 Recommendation to receive and file a discussion on repairing the artwork on utility boxes.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ] RECOMMENDATION BE RECEIVED IN FILE. DISCUSSION ON REPAIRING THE ARTWORK ON UTILITY BOXES. MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THIS ITEM? MOTION. SECOND. EXCELLENT. MOTION A SECOND. MAY WE HAVE ANY CLASSIFICATION PLEASE? YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME, SO I'LL TRY AND MAKE, I'LL MAKE THIS QUICK. UM, THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION TO LET PERMISSION KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME, UH, GRAFFITI AND THINGS GOING ON ALONG THE UTILITY BOXES ON, ON THE BOTTOM SHORE. THERE'S OUR ARTWORK THAT IS ON THOSE UTILITY BOXES. AND DUE TO LIKE GRAFFITI AND AGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY'RE IN DESPERATE NEED REPAIR. SO P WORKS GONNA BE WORKING ON, UM, REPAIRING THAT, WORKING WITH THE ORIGINAL ARTIST. WE'VE WORKED ON THOSE, BUT IT IS GONNA COME AT A COST OF, UH, ESTIMATED COST OF ABOUT $1,800 TO FIX CHANGE. AND FY I WILL BE INCLUDING THIS IN THE NEXT BUDGET IN OCTOBER. UM, SO YOU'LL SEE A LINE ITEM FOR THAT. BUT JUST AS A, JUST AS A DISCUSSION, WE WANT TO LET THE COMMISSIONERS KNOW THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING BE, YOU KNOW, GOING ON. IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR OBJECTIONS OR HAS ANY NOTES, FEEL FREE. QUESTION FROM JENSEN. WHAT ARE WE DOING? I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO THIS AS A COMMISSIONER. HOW, HOW ARE WE PREVENTING FOR, I I HAVE TREMENDOUS GRAFFITI IN MY BUILDING. I CONTINUE TO HAVE TO CLEAN IT UP. I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT WE DO FROM A STANDPOINT OF THE POLICING EVENT OTHER THAN SHOOTING THE OFFENDER . THERE'S, I MEAN OUR SECURITY TEAM AND IT SHOW THAT THERE'S GRAFFITI OR TRY, YOU KNOW, TRY AND STOP THAT. BUT WE CAN ONLY, YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSION CAN ONLY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS USING THE FUNDS FOR THE PUBLIC FLOOR AREA. AND PART OF THAT IS FOR PUBLIC EQUIPMENT. IF IT'S ON OUR BUSINESS, IT'S NOT PUBLIC EQUIPMENT. WE CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. WE, YOU, THE COMMISSION CAN'T ENFORCE ANY KIND OF, WE GET, WE GET , WE GET, WE CAN'T GO OUT THERE AND TACKLE THEM. I'M SORRY, . UM, HAVE YOU GUYS NOTICED LESS FOR THESE? YOU MADE YOUR BE YOUR BUILDING WALL SO MUCH MORE BEAUTIFUL. YEAH, AND I THINK, UM, JAN'S MURAL DOESN'T GET TAGGED EITHER ON THE GAP, FULL GAP. SO WHEN CAN WE ADD SOME LIKE BEAUTIFICATION STUFF TO SECOND STREET AS PART OF OUR MEETINGS? WE CAN AGENDA AS THAT AND THAT'S REALLY JUST REQUEST TO ADD UP ON THE AGENDA AND WE CAN DISCUSS THAT WHEN WE HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE PRETTIER THINGS IN TOWN ARE NOT GETTING DAMAGED. IT MAKES THE PLACE LOOK BETTER. I THINK IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE CARING FOR IT MORE, RIGHT? WE'VE GOT CLEANER STREETS, WE'VE GOT TWO PRETTIER FEATURES. I WOULD LIKE AT SOME POINT, WHENEVER IT MAKES SENSE, ADD THAT TO OUR, AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT TENSION THAT IS PART OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS LOOKING [01:20:01] AT BEAUTIFICATION AND WORKING IN TANDEM WITH THE BSBA AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO DO. WE HAVE NOT HAD THE FUNDS TO DO THAT IN YEARS PAST. NOT UNTIL JUST RECENTLY REALLY UNTIL WE'VE GOTTEN SOME OF THESE REPORTS AND WE'VE SEEN REALLY WONDERFUL YEAR OF, OF THAT INCREASE. SO THAT WILL HOPEFUL GIVE US A LITTLE MORE ROOM TO LOOK AT IN DIFFERENT TYPES OF COMMUNICATION. THAT'S ONE OF THEM. BUT YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S MEDIATES, WHETHER IT'S TREES, WHETHER, YOU KNOW, LOTS OF THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT THEY WANT US TO DO. SO WE'LL HAVE TO PRIORITIZE IT AND DISCUSS AND SEE WHO WE WANNA GO. BUT I THINK IT'S EXCITING THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THAT. SO YOU MAKE NEED TO PAINT A MURAL. . ALRIGHT. UM, PUBLIC COMMENT. MY NAME IS JEFF. UM, I WONDER LIKE IT, IT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION FROM THE PRETTY COMMISSIONER THERE. I, I WONDER LIKE DOES THE, THAT THAT DOES PAINTING ON THE GAP BUILDING, THAT'S WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT, UH, COURAGE AND, YOU KNOW, THOSE THINGS. DID THE PARKING COMMISSION PAY? WHO PAID FOR THAT? THE GAP? THE OWNER. OH, THE OWNER. OKAY. SO I, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR A ABATEMENT IS BEAUTIFICATION. UH, SO IF THAT THING'S NOT GETTING DESTROYED, YOU KNOW, UH, THEN THAT'S, THAT'S A GREAT ITEM. THANK YOU. OTHER COMMENTS? UH, JUST A, A BIG THANK YOU TO ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. UM, YOU KNOW, DEBORAH, DEB BEEN HERE, BUT WE'VE HAD PEOPLE AND I REALLY, THE TENURE OF THE CONVERSATION IS, IS GOING IN A VERY POSITIVE WAY AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I CAN TELL HOW MUCH YOU CARE ABOUT THE STREET AND AS RESIDENTS WE DO, AND TO HELP THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY TOO. SO THANKS VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? ALL VOTE MR. CLERK? AYE. THANK YOU . AYE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JENSEN. AYE. COMMISSIONER MILLER, UM, VICE CHAIR. WE BEING CHAIR COMMISSIONER? AYE. MOTION HARRIS? ALRIGHT, PUBLIC COMMENT. AT [PUBLIC COMMENT Opportunity to address the Belmont Shore Parking and Business Improvement Area Advisory Commission on non-agenda items. Each speaker is limited to three minutes to make their comments unless extended by the Chair.] THIS TIME WE'LL TAKE ANY NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS. ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA, PLEASE STAND NOW AND BE RECOGNIZED BY CLERK. AYE, JOINING. UM, SO I JUST WANNA THROW THIS OUT. UM, AND APPARENTLY I LEARNED FROM MS. VANESSA, OUR CLERK THAT, UM, THIS IS A FLEXIBLE KIND OF THING AND, AND OPTIONAL. SO ON THE COMMISSION THAT I'M ON, UM, OUR PROCESS IS THE, UH, THE ITEM IS CALLED. UM, AND THEN, AND YOU KNOW, THE THING IS READ AND THEN BEFORE APPARENTLY YOU CAN SWAP WHO SPEAKS FIRST, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S THE COMMISSION THAT SPEAKS OR THE PUBLIC. AND, UM, SO OURS, THE PUBLIC SPEAKS FIRST AND THEN THE COMMISSION. AND I LIKE IT BECAUSE IT ALLOWS ME AS A COMMISSIONER TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE COMMENTS THAT THE PUBLIC MADE OR TO QUESTION MYSELF SO THAT I, SO THAT I CAN GET THE ANSWERS THAT THEY WERE ASKING. AND SO I JUST WANNA THROW THAT OUT TO YOU IN CASE YOU WANT TO CONSIDER DOING THAT IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SHALL I SIGN IN? AND I ALSO, WITH THE SORT OF REVIEW DIRECTION AND TONE OF THIS MEETING, SO I MIGHT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND YOUR LEADERSHIP AND UM, HAVE A COUPLE OF SORT OF WISHES. I GUESS ONE IS THAT, UM, ALL SEVEN COMMISSIONERS ACTUALLY BE PRESENT AND TAKE THIS ROLE SERIOUSLY. I THINK, UM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT, OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE HERE SO YOU ARE, UM, BUT TWO OF THE NEW COMMISSIONERS ARE NOT. AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, ONE OF THE NEW APPOINTED COMMISSIONERS HAS NOT EVEN COMPLETED THE ONBOARDING. AND IF YOU ARE NOT AWARE OF THIS BODY, THE PREVIOUS DURATION OF THIS BODY HAS ONLY MET A FEW TIMES IN THE ENTIRE YEAR. SO I JUST WANNA THROW THAT OUT THERE. PERHAPS THAT NEW CHAIR CAN MAKE SURE THAT TWO MISSING FOLKS UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THEIR APPOINTMENT AND THAT THEY WILL COME TO EVERY SINGLE MEETING FOR A POSSIBLE SECOND WISH IS TO BE AWARE OF MISSION LEAP, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY KIND OF TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT, AND DO NOT BE SPENDING PUBLIC MONEY TO FIX PRIVATE PROBLEMS. SO A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS ON SECOND STREET ARE CAUSED BY A HANDFUL PUBLICLY BUSINESSES. AND WE, I FEEL STRONGLY THAT PUBLIC MONEY SHOULD NOT BE SPENT FIXED PROBLEMS CAUSED BY THOSE FEW ENTITIES. UM, MY THIRD WISH, [01:25:01] I THINK WE'VE ALL, UM, SORT OF MADE THIS LOUD CLEARNESS TO REALLY LISTEN TO RESIDENTS AND GRATEFUL FOR HAVING A, A WONDERFUL RESIDENT, UM, REPRESENTATIVE HERE AND, UM, REALLY LOOK FOR ADDITIONAL WAYS. I AM, YOU KNOW, IT'S PRETTY DISAPPOINTING THAT ONLY A FEW RESIDENTS ARE EVEN HERE THURSDAY AT NINE O'CLOCK. NOT NECESSARILY A GREAT TIME FOR MOST RESIDENTS TO COME TO MEETINGS, BUT MY IMPRESSION IS THAT MOST RESIDENTS HAVE NO IDEA THAT THIS BODY INSISTS AND CERTAINLY NOT WHEN THE MEETINGS WILL HELP. SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WE CAN CERTAINLY COMMUNICATE PERHAPS THROUGH COUNCIL MEMBER DUGGAN TO LET THE RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD KNOW THAT THIS BODY EXISTS AND WE WOULD LIKE MORE RESIDENT ENGAGEMENT AND ANY WAY THAT YOU ALL CAN THINK OF TO REALLY ENGAGE THE RESIDENTS WHO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS TO SHARE AS WE'VE ALREADY DONE AND WANT THIS TO BE A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS. SO THANK YOU ALL. OKAY, THANK YOU. ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM [ANNOUNCEMENTS] ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS? THANK YOU. MADE IT FOR THE FIRST, UH, THANK YOU. SO HONOR ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM ANY, ANYONE HERE? UH, NO OBJECTION. I DECLARE [ADJOURNMENT] THE MEETING. THANK. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.