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UM, OKAY.

MEETING CALL TO ORDER AT 2:12 PM APRIL PLEASE.

SARAH BETTY.

HERE.

PAM? HERE.

LEANNA NOBLE.

HERE.

PATRICIA SCOTT.

ABSENT.

OKAY.

WE HAVE QUORUM.

THANK YOU.

AND ITEM NUMBER ONE IS A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR OUR MEETING ON MONDAY, JULY 27TH, 2026.

ON, IS THERE MOTION A? IS THERE A SECOND? GREAT.

UM, ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION PASSES.

OH, SORRY.

ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? ALRIGHT, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO.

RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A DISCUSSION REGARDING UPDATES TO THE 2025 HOMELESS SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE, ANNUAL REPORT, AND POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS.

I SECOND? YES.

UM, SO ON THIS, I THINK WE JUST WANTED A STATUS UPDATE TO CONFIRM THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT'S AT IN THE PROCESS OF GOING TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, SO WE CAN SEE THAT NEXT STEP.

UM, SO CAN WE PLEASE HAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT? YEAH.

UM, SO THE MEMO HAS BEEN APPROVED BY PAUL AND ALLISON KING.

UM, IT HAS MOVED FORWARD TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

UM, IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS REGARDING, UM, THE MEMO, THEY'LL REACH OUT TO US.

UM, OTHERWISE IT'LL GET PUSHED FORWARD.

UM, AND ONCE FINALIZED, IT'LL GET PUBLICIZED ON THE CITY WEBSITE AND WE'LL SHARE IT WITH YOU GUYS.

AND THEN FOLLOWING THAT, WE CAN HAVE OUR KIND ANNUAL MEETINGS WITH OUR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SHARE AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE RECOMMENDED.

RIGHT.

WE USUALLY GIVE TWO TO THREE MONTHS OF THAT.

AND JENNIFER, REMIND ME AGAIN, I'M SURE THE DOES AT SOME POINT.

DOES IT GO AS JUST PART OF A PACKET TO THE CITY COUNCIL? UM, I BELIEVE SO.

I CAN DOUBLE CHECK, BUT I BELIEVE IT DOES.

OKAY.

YEAH, BECAUSE WELL, IT'S ATTACHED, UH, WE CREATE A MEMO, LIKE A COVER PAGE MM-HMM .

UM, AND THEN THE LETTER'S ATTACHED AND IT GOES AS A PACKET.

OKAY.

YEAH.

AND THEN ONCE IT GETS POSTED, IT'S ALSO POSTED.

ALL RIGHT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM .

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THAT? ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? OH, GO AHEAD.

SORRY.

WE JUST SAID, SO MAYBE IN OUR NEXT MEETING, YOU, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON, WELL, I, I DON'T CARE WHERE IT IS AT WITH THE CITY PROCESS.

WE COULD TALK ABOUT THEN WHAT OUR ADVICE WOULD BE TO HSAC MEMBERS ABOUT FOLLOW UP WITH.

YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT.

THE COUNCIL AND WE CAN DO THAT FOR THE OCTOBER MEETING.

WE CAN LAUNCH THAT DISCUSSION, UM, AND ENCOURAGE THEM.

AND PEOPLE SHOULD BE USED TO IT BY NOW.

'CAUSE WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS THREE OR FOUR YEARS.

BUT, UM, WE CAN GIVE THEM A PACKET TO HELP 'EM MEET WITH THEIR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND EXPLAIN THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.

COOL.

YEAH, SO LIKE LAST YEAR, LIKE USUALLY WE START HAVING FEEDBACK FROM THE DISTRICTS, LIKE RIGHT AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.

I FEEL LIKE PEOPLE START SAYING, OH, I HAVE MY COUNCIL MEMBER.

IT'S AFTER THE HOLIDAYS.

I LIKE, WHAT IF WE CAN PREP THEM A LITTLE EARLIER? I REMEMBER TWO TO THREE YEARS AGO YOU MADE A REALLY ATTRACTIVE HANDOUT FOR HAAC MEMBERS OF MEETING.

AND THEN I MADE A REALLY BASIC ONE LAST YEAR.

SO I CAN LOOK THROUGH THE FILES AND SEE WHAT'S OVER THERE.

GREAT.

THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

OKAY.

SO, UM, YEAH, CAN WE PLEASE PUT THAT ON THE OCTOBER 2ND AGENDA THAT WE'LL KIND OF PREPARE THEM TO MEET WITH THEIR COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THAT.

THANKS.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS UHM? ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? ALRIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR A AYE.

ALL NEXT I'D, AGENDA ITEM, RECOMMENDATIONS TO RECEIVE AND FILE DISCUSSION REGARDING UPDATES TO THE HOMELESS SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION ON FENCING AROUND THE BILLIE JEAN KING MAIN LIBRARY.

AND THIS, AGAIN, IS KIND OF A STATUS UPDATE, APPROVED IT AT THE LAST CASE ACT GENERAL MEETING.

UM, AND SO WHERE, WHERE IS THAT AT IN THE PROCESS OF BEING SUBMITTED? UM, CAN WE JUST GET A VOTE? A VOTE FIRST? OH, YES.

A MOTION.

YES.

MOTION.

SECOND.

SECOND.

WHATEVER.

.

OKAY, JENNIFER.

NO WORRIES.

UM, SAME THING WITH THIS ONE.

UM, IT'S ALSO BEEN PUSHED FORWARD, UH, I THINK IT WAS LIKE A WEEK PRIOR TO THE POLICY ONE.

UM, BUT WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING BACK YET.

SO, I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING IT'S GOING, IT'S MOVING ALONG.

UM, BUT ONCE FINALIZED, WE'LL ALSO REACH BACK OUT AND LET YOU GUYS KNOW, GIVE YOU GUYS THE FINAL VERSION.

AND JUST AN ASIDE, I THINK THERE HAVE BEEN SOME NEWSPAPER ARTICLES ABOUT THAT LETTER AS WHILE IT HASN'T OFFICIALLY GONE, UH, TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL AND THERE'S BEEN POST REPORTERS HERE AND I EVEN HAD, YOU KNOW, PERSONAL CONTACT SAYING,

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HEY, DID YOU SEE THAT LETTER? 'CAUSE REALLY DID SEE THAT UHHUH.

SO IT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL OUT THERE.

YEAH.

YES.

I REMEMBER THERE WAS A COUPLE MEDIA AT OUR LAST H MEETING, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

AT THE .

YEAH.

WELL, I, ANOTHER QUESTION IS, DOES IT MAKE SENSE WHEN WE ARE TALKING, IS THE HSAC ABOUT FOLLOWING UP WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE? SEEMS TO ME IT WOULD BE GOOD BECAUSE THE COUNCIL HAS RESPONDED MM-HMM .

SOMEWHAT DEFENSIVELY, IN MY OPINION, TO TO NOTICE ABOUT OUR LETTER PUBLICLY.

AND SO IT SEEMS TO ME IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO AT LEAST RAISE THIS AS AN ISSUE AND SEE IF SOME OF THE POSITIVE SUGGESTIONS THAT WE MADE ABOUT IMPROVING THE SYSTEM OF THIS DECISION AND JUST SEE WHERE THEY'RE AT ON THAT.

AND ONE THING THAT I THOUGHT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT IS HOW YOUR SUGGESTION OF FRAMING THAT LETTER IN THE CONTEXT OF THE OLYMPICS COMING UP AND SAYING, HEY, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED THIS TIME AS FAR AS THE PROCESS AND ERECTING THIS FENCE AND KIND OF DISPLACEMENT OF PEOPLE.

BUT WE'VE GOT A BIG EVENT COMING UP HERE AND WE HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW TO MAKE THIS GO BETTER.

AND YOU SAW THE PUBLIC REACTION TO THAT FENCE AND THIS PLACEMENT.

SO FOR ME, THAT WOULD BE KIND OF THE LEAD OF, OKAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE, HOW ARE WE GONNA BE PROACTIVE AND, AND HUMAN CENTERED, UM, LEADING UP TO THE OLYMPICS AND WHAT WILL BE DIFFERENT YEP.

AT THAT TIME, UM, I MEAN I FEEL LIKE THIS COULD BE ALSO LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO, IT'S HARD TO GET MEETINGS WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL, SO LIKE DOUBLING UP ON THAT MM-HMM .

WOULD BE PROBABLY BETTER.

OH, DEFINITELY.

THESE TWO TOPICS IN THE SAME MEETING.

AND I CAN TRY TO PUT IT ON LIKE, THE GUIDANCE SHEET FOR MEMBERS OF HERE ARE THE MAIN POINTS TO HIT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN VERY COMMUNICATIVE THIS YEAR, AS YOU CAN SEE.

SO YEAH.

JUST, YEAH.

AND IT, YEAH.

AND OUR FOCUS IS OKAY, SOMETIMES YOU JUST AGREE TO DISAGREE, UH, IN TERMS OF WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL'S ALREADY DONE, HOWEVER, WE DID IN THAT LETTER TO THEM, MAKE SOME REAL SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT HOW TO UTILIZE HSAC AND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR MAKING THOSE KINDS OF DECISIONS.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK NOT JUST HERE, BUT IN OTHER PLACES, THERE'S BEEN A LONG HISTORY OF DISPLACEMENT OF PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS WHEN LARGE SPORTING EVENTS COME THROUGH.

I MEAN, I WAS, I LIVED IN DETROIT WHEN WITH THE SUPER BOWL THERE OVER 20 YEARS AGO, AND PEOPLE WERE BUSED 60 MILES AWAY TO ANOTHER CITY JUST TO BE KEPT OUT OF SIGHT.

SO IT HAPPENS IN OTHER COUNTRIES, IT HAPPENS HERE.

AND I THINK IT'S JUST, WELL, AND SARAH, THE OTHER, THERE'S NOW BEEN SEVERAL ARTICLES AND THERE'S MAPS NOW BEING CREATED THAT TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT SECURITY ZONES AND THE REALITY THAT OUR CITY, JUST LIKE THE CITY OF LA UH, AND THE COUNTY FOR ANY SITES THAT ARE IN THEIR TURF, THAT THE CITIES ARE NOT GONNA HAVE ANY AUTHORITY.

THAT SECURITY IS ALL GOING TO END UP IN THE HANDS OF HOMELAND SECURITY.

AND THAT, YOU KNOW, TO ME THAT'S INCREDIBLY SCARY WITH THE IMPLICATIONS, ESPECIALLY FOR, FOR OUR UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS.

SO IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT WE WANT TO RAISE THIS AS MANY TIMES AS WE CAN, UM, TO LET THE CITY COUNCIL KNOW THAT THERE'S CONCERN AND SUPPORT.

AND MAYBE WE CAN SUGGEST SOME REALLY COMMUNITY CENTERED SOLUTIONS LIKE DURING THE WORLD CUP.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR EXPERIENCE WAS WITH THE WORLD CUP, BUT THERE WERE SO MANY COMMUNITY VIEWING SITES AND PARTIES.

AND SO MAYBE IF THERE'S PLACES WHERE EVERYONE CAN GO TO PARTICIPATE OR, OR WATCH DIFFERENT EVENTS RATHER THAN BEING KEPT OUT, THAT WOULD BE A REAL POSITIVE.

YEAH.

UM, OTHER THOUGHTS ON THIS? I LIKE THAT FRAME.

YEAH.

LIKE EVEN ALMOST LOOKING AT WHAT WORKED DURING THE WORLD CUP MM-HMM .

SO I WAS VERY IMPRESSED.

I JUST AS A RESIDENT WAS LIKE, THIS IS GREAT.

EVERYONE'S COMING FROM THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

UM, I LIKE THAT TO INCLUDE RATHER THAN EXCLUDE.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

'CAUSE THAT KIND OF LEADERSHIP IS NOT GONNA COME FROM ANY PLACE ELSE.

AND MAYBE THE MSC MOBILE UNIT WILL BE THE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR

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OUTREACH.

SO, UM, OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ONE? I MEAN, I THINK THIS IS A, THAT'S A GOOD TIME TO LIKE BRING THAT UP TOO.

JUST IN THE COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW, LIKE A LOT OF THE MUTUAL AIDS ARE COLLABORATING TOGETHER.

MM-HMM .

AND LIKE TRYING TO WORK ON LIKE, NOT ONE, BUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, DECIPHER THE THINGS AND LIKE, OKAY, YOU GOT THIS, YOU GOT THIS AND WE'LL COME TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME.

YEAH.

LIKE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A NICE WAY FOR THAT.

SO BOTH THE CITY AND NONPROFITS COMMUNITY.

VERY GOOD.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO'S LEADING THAT, THAT COLLABORATIVE EFFORT? UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A FEW, THERE'S FEW OF OUR BIGGER MUTUAL AIDS IN THE CITY.

IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE GREATER LONG BEACH MUTUAL AID CARE COLLABORATIVE.

WHO ELSE IS IN THERE? THERE'S LIKE A SMALLER ONE SEVENTH STREET COLLECTIVE, BUT THERE'S A, THERE'S A COUPLE MORE.

I CAN'T REMEMBER NOW RIGHT NOW.

HMM.

GOOD.

BUT YEAH.

THAT'S GREAT.

YEAH.

SO MAYBE IT'S JUST COLLABORATION.

YEAH.

MM-HMM .

ANYTHING ELSE? NO, I THINK THAT'S GOOD.

OKAY.

ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS TOPIC? NONE.

ALRIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR.

A ALL ITEM NUMBER FOUR, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A DISCUSSION REGARDING UPDATES TO THE HOMELESS SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

RECOMMENDATION FOR A PROPOSAL FOR A $50,000 BUDGET PLAN FOR THE MAYOR'S FUND PILOT HYGIENE PROJECT.

IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION? UH, MOVE SECOND.

OKAY.

UM, FOR THIS ONE ALSO GETTING AN UPDATE AND MAYBE PLANNING OUR NEXT STEPS AROUND THIS.

SO, SO SIMILAR TO THE OTHER TWO, THIS ONE HAS ALSO BEEN PUSHED FORWARD, UM, WITH THE MEMO ATTACHED AND WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR FEEDBACK REGARDING, AND I WAS KIND OF CLARIFYING AHEAD OF TIME.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL TO DO THIS 'CAUSE WE HAVE AUTHORITY OVER , BUT WE DID, I THINK WANT SOME FEEDBACK FROM, UM, THE, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE ABOUT JUST ARE THERE ANY PROBLEMS WITH LEGALITY OR THINGS WE NEED TO, TO COORDINATE ON? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA ON TIMELINES ON THAT OR WHAT NEXT STEPS WOULD BE OF HOW WE CAN KEEP SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT AND MOVING FORWARD? I DON'T AS OF NOW.

UM, I DID FOLLOW UP A FEW DAYS AGO, UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS MOVING FORWARD.

UM, BUT ASIDE FROM THAT, I HAVEN'T GOT ANY FEEDBACK.

I CAN PROBABLY CHECK BACK MAYBE LIKE IN A WEEK OR TWO MM-HMM .

TO GIVE THEM SOME RIGHT.

ADDITIONAL TIME.

UM, AND IF THERE IS ANY FEEDBACK I CAN LET YOU GUYS KNOW.

BUT MAYBE EVEN JENNIFER, THE FEEDBACK IS I THINK THE, THE THING WE'RE REALLY INTERESTED IN.

BUT EVEN IF THERE'S AN INDICATION OF WHAT THEY'RE PROJECTING OF HOW LONG IT'S GONNA TAKE THEM YEAH.

TO EITHER MAKE A LIST OF QUESTIONS OR THINGS THAT THEY FEEL WE NEED TO ADDRESS.

OKAY.

YEAH.

AND OF COURSE I'M GONNA KEEP SAYING WE SHOULDN'T BE THE ONES THAT PICK THE LOCATION BECAUSE THE HOMELESS SERVICES STAFF OR THE EXPERTS ON WHERE THE NEED IS.

BUT I DID GET A SUGGESTION, UH, FROM A RESIDENT WHO IS JULIE LEE, FORMER MY CHAIR OF PAY WHO SENT ME A TEXT AND SAID, WHAT IF THE OVERNIGHT, YOU KNOW, UH, HYGIENE IS AT THE MSD.

AND SO I SAID I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT JULIE LEE, I'M SURE THE HOMELESS, YOU KNOW, SERVICES STAFF WILL DECIDE WHERE THERE'S THE MOST NEED AND WHERE IT, BUT SHE OFFERED THAT SUGGESTION OF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALREADY THE TOILET AND HYGIENE FACILITIES THERE.

SO IF PEOPLE DETERMINE THAT'S WHERE THE MOST NEED IS, THEN WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO THE PILOT THERE.

OKAY.

BUT THERE'S A LOT OF BUILDINGS THAT WE COULD DO.

TRUE.

AND LIKE IT'S NEW CABINET TOO.

YES.

LIKE BEDS RIGHT THERE.

SO LIKE PEOPLE WOULD UTILIZE IT.

IT'S A GOOD SPOT.

MM-HMM .

YEAH.

I HADN'T THOUGHT OF THAT ONE PERSONALLY BECAUSE WE'RE ALWAYS LIKE, THEY ALREADY HAVE EVERYTHING THERE, BUT LIKE THEY DON'T HAVE OVERNIGHT HAVE OVERNIGHT THOUGH.

NO.

YEAH.

ADDITIONAL RIGHT OVER THE WEEKEND BECAUSE THAT'S YEAH.

BEEN BOUGHT THERE ON THE WEEKENDS AND IT'S LIKE, GEEZ, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE EVERYTHING IS SECURED AND THE BUILDING AND THE AREA IS FULL.

I, THAT IS ACTUALLY, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

I MEAN THE MSCI FEEL LIKE HAS EVOLVED OVER THE LAST MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, EVER SINCE LIKE AFTER PANDEMIC.

LIKE IT'S REALLY LIKE ADDED SOME THINGS THERE THAT ARE GOOD STUFF.

REDESIGN SHOWERS AND ALL THE THINGS LIKE GOOD ACCESS, BUT LIKE ANOTHER LAYER OVERNIGHT THERE.

PLUS I WOULD IMAGINE THERE ARE NOT MANY PUBLIC OR PRIVATE TOILETS IN THAT AREA, YOU KNOW, OTHERWISE.

SO THERE'S, YEAH.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

I KNOW I CAN'T

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LET IT GO.

JULIE .

SO, UM, ANY OTHER, I MEAN WE BASICALLY JUST KIND OF NEED TO HEAR WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE PROCESS ON HOW WE CAN, WE CAN SUPPORT CITY STAFF IN MOVING THIS FORWARD.

UM, AND KIND OF WHAT, WHAT THAT TIMELINE LOOKS LIKE.

WELL, AND TO ME IT'S REALLY, IT'S GREAT THAT STAFF HAVE REALLY MOVED ON THIS TO GET STUFF UP AND AROUND.

THAT'S, WELL WE HOPE IT'S A PARTNERSHIP 'CAUSE WE, WE KNOW THAT WE ALL WANNA OFFER HYGIENE SERVICES TO PEOPLE OVERNIGHT AND WE'RE SO EXCITED THAT WE HAVE CONTROL OF FUNDING THAT CAN PAY FOR THAT.

SO WE'RE ALL BEHIND IT.

WE'RE IN SUPPORT AND WE WANNA MAKE IT A REALITY.

UM, ALRIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? UH, ANY OH YEAH.

MAY INCLUDE A LITTLE JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

'CAUSE I WON'T, I'M NOT GONNA BE PRIMARILY THE PERSON THAT'S GONNA BE WORKING ON THIS OR PROVIDING RECOMMENDATIONS EITHER.

UM, BUT AS LONG AS YOU'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT THE, UM, THE UH, RESTROOMS. CORRECT.

YEAH.

SO I THINK ONE THING MAYBE TO THINK ABOUT OR CONSIDER, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT.

RESOURCES AVAILABLE AFTER NORMAL HOURS.

UM, AND SO I THINK MAYBE ONE THING I MIGHT ALSO CONSIDER IS THINKING ABOUT, SO I'M EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, I NEED TO USE THE RESTROOM.

IT'S 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

RIGHT.

AND DEPENDING ON THE CONCENTRATION OF FOLKS AND OBVIOUSLY LIKE IT MAY BE HARDER TO FIND LOCATIONS, YOU KNOW, THAT MAYBE ARE MORE CONCENTRATED, BUT, UM, SO I AM NOW HAVING TO GET TO THE MSC RIGHT.

KIND OF LIKE ACROSS THE BRIDGE ACROSS THE WAY MM-HMM .

AND YOU KNOW, PROBABLY USING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION THAT'S GONNA BE A LOT MORE LIMITED IN THAT CAPACITY.

HAVING TO MAYBE CROSS THE BRIDGE ON FOOT, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS POSSIBLE.

OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN CROSS THE BRIDGET SICK BRIDGE ON THE FOOT IT , RIGHT.

AND SAY I AM, YOU KNOW, I'M SOMEBODY THAT'S EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE HAS, YOU KNOW, IS USING SOME SUBSTANCES A LITTLE LATER AT NIGHT.

I'M HAVING TO BRING MYSELF ACROSS THE TOWN, UM, YOU KNOW, TO THE MSC.

SO IT MAY BE, I THINK IT'S DEFINITELY A GOOD LOCATION.

YOU KNOW, I WOULD MAYBE SAY, MAYBE TROUBLESHOOT THE THINKING OF LIKE, LOGISTICALLY HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO MAKE IT OVER THERE AND MAYBE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ALREADY IN THAT AREA.

AND IS THAT AN AREA THAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE EVACUATING HUMAN WASTE IN THIS AREA.

WE'RE VERY CONCERNED.

THAT'S PROBABLY NOT THE AREA THAT I'VE, THAT I'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT PEOPLE ARE MOST CONCERNED WITH OF PEOPLE DOING THAT.

SO JUST MAYBE ALSO THINKING LIKE IF THERE'S ANYWHERE THAT'S MORE ADJACENT TO THOSE AREAS WHERE PEOPLE MAYBE ARE COMPLAINING A LITTLE BIT MORE OR MAYBE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT EASIER ACCESSIBLE ACCESSIBILITY.

LIKE I THINK IT'S GREAT ANYWAY.

RIGHT.

NO MATTER WHERE YOU CAN PUT IT, AT LEAST AN OPTION'S AVAILABLE.

RIGHT.

WHERE IF THERE'S NO OPTION, I'LL TAKE THE OPTION .

RIGHT.

BUT JUST ALSO KIND OF THINKING ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.

LIKE ULTIMATELY, IS THAT THE ONLY PLACE ALWAYS, UM, TO, TO KEEP UH, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF RESOURCE AND IF THERE'S POTENTIALLY THE ABILITY OF AREAS, YOU KNOW, IT COULD, THIS COULD BE SOMETHING WHERE UM, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE, THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD, I'M NOT GONNA POINT OUT ANY SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND POINT THEM OUT.

WE'RE, WE'RE ULTIMATELY NOT GOING TO MAKE THE ULTIMATE DECISION ON THIS.

'CAUSE WE KNOW STAFF KNOW MORE THAN WE NEITHER DO.

BUT LET'S SAY GO AHEAD AND NAME SOME NEIGHBORHOODS.

LET'S SAY THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD, LET'S SAY SESAME STREET, RIGHT? AND EVERYBODY'S SAYING, OKAY, WELL I'M CONCERNED ABOUT ALL THIS WITH SEVEN SESAME STREET.

THERE ARE PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS OWNERS OR AT LEAST PEOPLE WITH CONNECTIONS ON SESAME STREET THAT MAY SAY, OKAY, WELL YEAH BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THIS RESOURCE MAYBE IS AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN GO OUT IN FRONT OF MY BUSINESS 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT THIS IS ULTIMATELY GONNA PREVENT ANOTHER ACCIDENT BEING OUT HERE.

RIGHT.

IF IT'S HAPPENING ANYWAY AND THERE IS GONNA BE SOMEONE THAT'S MONITORING IT, I'D PROBABLY RATHER HAVE THE BATHROOM A MONITORED BATHROOM HERE THAN NOT.

SO JUST A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS TO CONSIDER AS YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL RECOMMENDATIONS.

THIS COULD BE, AGAIN, WHEN YOU'RE SEEING MEETING WITH YOUR, UM, REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE CITY AS WELL, THAT THEY MAY HAVE CONNECTIONS TO FOLKS IN AREAS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT AVAILABILITY IN SPACE OR, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY, OH WE CAN KIND OF BLOCK THIS OFF OR HAVE THE CONNECTION WITH SOMEONE ELSE TO SAY IT'D BE OKAY TO KEEP OVER HERE FOR A WHILE.

YOU SEE THOSE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THOSE POLICE,

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UM, I KNOW THEY, THEY KIND OF, THEY'RE SOMEWHAT MONITORING SITE THINGS, RIGHT? THEY GOT THE SIGNS ON 'EM AND STUFF AND THE BLINKING LIGHTS AND THERE'S LIKE CAMERAS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

I'M ASSUMING THEY PROBABLY HAVE SOME IDEA OF WHERE THERE ARE ZONES THAT ARE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE MOBILE STATIONS PARKED FOR LONGER PERIODS OF TIME.

SO MAYBE THEY'LL BE ABLE TO HELP US OUT AS WELL TO SAY, OH YEAH, YOU COULD DO IT HERE, HERE, HERE AND HERE.

AND IF YOU CHOSE, IF IF WE AGREE ON THIS AREA, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THESE PEOPLE YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO.

SO JUST SOMETHING TO JUST KIND OF HELP WITH THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT.

EVEN THOUGH, LIKE I SAID, ULTIMATELY I'M NOT THE EXPERT OR THE BEST ONE TO TELL YOU EXACTLY WHERE, BUT JUST THINKING ABOUT HOW LIKE THAT MAY END UP PLAYING OUT AND YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET IT SOMEWHERE WHERE PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE AS WELL THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY WORKING AND YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT HAVING THAT, UM, THOSE KINDS OF ISSUES.

OR IS IT POSITIVELY RECEIVED AS A POLICY SOLUTION AND IF THIS WAS A GOOD USEFUL YEAH.

FOR EVERYONE AS WELL.

YEAH.

UM, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, NOT TO BE CRUDE, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE A BLOCK AWAY FROM THE MSC WHERE THE MSC IS RIGHT.

MUCH MORE INDUSTRIAL, A LOT LESS RESIDENTIAL.

YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY WERE TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO USE THE RESTROOM ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD THERE.

I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING NOW IT'S A DIGNIFIED, THAT'S A TOTALLY SEPARATE, RIGHT? THAT'S A TOTALLY SEPARATE ISSUE.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, JUST THE AVAILABILITY OF IT, YOU KNOW, MIGHT, MIGHT BE MORE WELL RECEIVED IN AN AREA THAT'S ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED AS HAVING A MAYBE AN ISSUE, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM .

BUT AGAIN, JUST A COUPLE OF, COUPLE OF THOUGHTS.

THANKS.

WELL THAT MAKES ME THINK THAT I KEEP GOING BACK TO WE'RE GONNA GET THE SIT DOWNS HOPEFULLY WITH THE SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

THAT MAYBE JUST BECOMES ANOTHER ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

YES.

I THINK, LIKE I PERSONALLY WANT TO HEAR FROM STUDY STAFF, WHERE IS THE GREATEST CONCENTRATION OF PEOPLE WHO ARE UNSHELTERED AND WHERE ARE YOU HEARING THE MOST COMPLAINTS, RIGHT? 'CAUSE WE CAN KIND OF SAY, OKAY, WELL PEOPLE MUST NOT HAVE ACCESS IF THERE MIGHT MUST BE AN ISSUE.

IF THIS IS TAKING PLACE OUTSIDE AND THEN LOOKING AT THAT, THEN I THINK YOU KIND OF FIT IN THE POLITICAL NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT? IF WE KNOW WHAT THE TOP FIVE SITES ARE AND THEN WE SAY, OKAY, WELL ARE THERE ANY TOILETS THERE? OKAY.

HOW DO THE LOCAL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS FEEL? LIKE, DO THEY HEAR ABOUT THIS PROBLEM? DO THEY WANT TO SOLVE IT? YOU KNOW, WOULD THEY, SO I THINK, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO HEAR ABOUT THE NEED.

OKAY.

FIRST AND I THINK, I THINK WHO'S GETTING THOSE CALLS TOO, RIGHT? I'M GUESSING MAYBE, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF WHERE UH, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S, IF IT'S JUST LIKE A, A HUMAN WASTE ISSUE AND LIKE THE PERSON'S ALREADY GONE, RIGHT? MAYBE IF THE PERSON'S THERE, WE'VE RECEIVED THE CALL.

BUT I WOULD ASSUME THAT IF IT'S JUST A WASTE ISSUE, THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT CALLING US.

THEY'RE PROBABLY CALLING PUBLIC WORK.

I WANNA SAY.

YEAH.

IT'S PUBLIC WORKS.

'CAUSE I USED TO WORK FIRST STREET, THE GO, THE GO LONG BEACH.

YEAH.

LIKE HOW IS IT GETTING ROUTED? SO IT COULD BE TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT AND ALSO SEE WHERE MOST OF THE CALLS COMING FROM, YOU KNOW, AND TRYING TO MAP IT THROUGH THERE.

BUT THEY, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD PROBABLY REQUIRE US GETTING, YOU KNOW, IN CONTACT WITH THEM AS WELL.

BUT LIKE I SAID, BUT, BUT THAT THEY PROBABLY DO TRACK THAT.

DO YOU THINK JENNIFER, THE PUBLIC COURT, UM, WHEN I WAS THERE, YES.

IT'S TRACKED LIKE BY LOCATION.

UHHUH.

I'M NOT SURE IF, I MEAN THEY, YEAH, THEY MUST KEEP SOME LOGS.

THE OTHER NOT, IT'S NOT DIRECTLY A CITY GROUP, BUT WE NOW HAVE A HECK OF A LOT OF THESE BUSINESS DISTRICTS.

I MEAN THERE'S THE ONE DOWNTOWN, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE AT THIS POINT.

I KNOW THAT THE DOWNTOWN IT, BECAUSE THEY HAVE, THAT'S ONE OF THEIR SERVICES IS, YOU KNOW, THEIR CLEAN SIDEWALKS AND STREETS.

UM, SO THE BUSINESS DISTRICTS MIGHT ALSO BE A PLACE TO CHECK IN AND TO, TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE HEARING.

AGREED.

I JUST FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE AT THE CITY THAT KNOW EXACTLY WHERE, OH, THIS IS A PROBLEM AND HEAR ABOUT IT EVERY WEEK.

YOU KNOW? AND THAT CAN BE TRIANGULATED WITH WHERE THE UNSHELTERED POPULATIONS ARE.

AND LIKE AS, UM, JOSEPH WAS SAYING ABOUT THE BUSINESSES BEING OPEN EVEN MM-HMM .

I MEAN THAT'S, I FEEL LIKE WE WOULD GO THROUGH COVID TO LIKE EVEN LIKE SOME OF THE BUSINESS THAT WOULD BE OPEN TO SUPPORT, UM, A PROJECT.

BUT WE ALSO STILL HAVE THE OPTION OF USING, UM, EXISTING SET RESTROOMS FOR THIS.

SO IT'S REALLY, I KNOW I ALWAYS THINK ABOUT, LIKE, I ALWAYS COMES TO MY HEAD IS THE RESTROOMS LIKE RENT BY GALCHO

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BECAUSE IT HAS SHOWERS TOO.

YEAH.

I MEAN IT'S EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND IT'S APPROXIMATE.

SO WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHERE THE POPULATIONS ARE, WHERE THE PROBLEM IS.

AND THEN WE CAN SAY, WHERE ARE THE EXISTING RESTROOMS? IS THIS AN OPTION? IS IT NOT AN OPTION? IF NOT, THEN WE RENT ONE.

BUT IF IT'S AN OPTION WE CAN USE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE.

IT'S ALREADY THERE.

TRUE.

I MEAN, I ALWAYS HAVE THIS THING WITH THE CITY AND YOU KNOW, THE CON LIKE THE PARKS, HOW THEY, HOW OUR PARKS ARE MAINTAINED.

IT WOULD, I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WOULD EVER BECOME DIFFERENT, BUT OTHER CITIES, EMPLOYEE PEOPLE TO LIKE JUST TAKE CARE OF THAT PART.

AND THEY'RE LIKE THERE ALL DAY.

THEY'RE LIKE, SHUT IT DOWN, OPEN IT, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

AND THEY BECOME SUCH LIKE, WHAT AM I TRYING TO SAY? LIKE, NOT CHAMPIONS, BUT I'M TRYING TO WORD LIKE THEY HAVE OWNERSHIP.

OWNERSHIP AND THE NEIGHBOR, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, THE CITY WORKERS THERE, BUT THEY LIKE LOVE THAT PARK AND THEY BRING LIKE, NO THAT'S SOMEBODY THAT'S LIKE THE PERSON WHO'S EVER , WHATEVER THAT IS.

BUT WE DON'T DO THAT HERE.

I WISH WE WOULD.

'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE COULD, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAD THAT KIND OF FRAMEWORK, WE COULD UM, HAVE SOMETHING LET GO.

LIKE IT WOULD BE AN EASIER PATH.

YEAH.

I GUESS.

I DON'T KNOW.

I ALWAYS WANNA SEE LIKE I WANNA GO TO OUR PARKS AND BE LIKE, OH VERY.

I MEAN WE HAVE LIKE, IF THEY HAVE LIKE A COMMUNITY CENTER, THEN I LIKE KNOW THOSE PEOPLE.

BUT LIKE YEAH.

ALL WHEN I GO TO OTHER CITIES, I'M LIKE, OH MY GOD, YOU'RE HERE ALL DAY.

YEAH.

THAT'S SO KIND OF COOL.

LIKE THE FAMILIES KNOW THEM.

I DON'T KNOW.

WELL I LEARNED WE AT LEAST HAVE THAT WITH SCHOOL CROSSING GUARDS FOR RECENT PUBLIC COMMENTS.

LIKE, WELL THAT'S GOOD.

THERE'S SOME DEEPLY ENTRENCHED, YOU KNOW, CITY WE COULD PUT LIKE A SUGGESTION IN.

I KNOW SOMEWHERE WELL AND MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE THAT CAN GROW OUT OF YEAH.

DOING THIS PAM IS WELL, AND I REMEMBER YEARS AGO I WENT, 'CAUSE I USED TO WORK KIND OF IN THE REENTRY SPACE AND I WENT TO A PRESENTATION IN LA WHERE THEY WERE SAYING, YEAH, IN SAN FRANCISCO WE HAVE THIS NON-PROFIT GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKE, EITHER CURRENTLY OR FORMERLY UNSHELTERED AND THEY CLEAN THE BATHROOMS AND KIND OF THIS ENCAMPMENT.

AND THEY WERE, THEY WERE BRINGING THAT KIND OF NON-PROFIT EFFORT TO SKID ROW.

AND SO THERE WAS KIND OF COMMUNITY BUILDING THROUGH THIS TYPE OF PROJECT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE THERE.

I THINK WE NEED A TOILET THAT'S OPEN AFTER, BUT I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITY.

BUT THERE'S ALL THESE, YEAH.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

IT CAN REALLY FLOWER, IT COULD BE A BIG INITIATOR.

YEAH.

AND IT BUILDS OWNERSHIP.

UM, ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? OKAY.

UM, PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS TOPIC.

OKAY.

C ALRIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

I'M OKAY.

UM, LET'S SEE.

SO I GUESS I DID, I DID WANNA HAVE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS ON HERE, BUT I DON'T SEE IT ON HERE.

UM, YEAH, I DIDN'T ADD IT, BUT WE CAN STILL DO THAT.

UM, WE CAN ADD IT TO RECOMMENDATION.

WE COULD ADD IT AS PART OF FIVE.

OKAY.

GREAT.

UM, SO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, RECOMMENDATION TO RECEIVE AND FILE A DISCUSSION REGARDING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND EFFORTS TO RAISE AWARENESS OF THE HOMELESS SERVICES BUREAU AND ITS PROGRAMS AND SERVICES.

IS THERE A MOTION, A MOVE? SECOND.

OKAY.

UM, SO FOR THIS, WE'VE, WE'VE COVERED A LITTLE BIT OF THIS GROUND 'CAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HOW AT THE NEXT SAC MEETING WE'LL PROVIDE KIND OF TEMPLATES OTHER CITY COUNCIL MEMBER ON THESE VARIOUS TOPICS WE'VE DISCUSSED.

UM, BUT ARE THERE, ARE THERE OTHER THINGS? I KNOW WE DISCUSSED GOING TO SPECIFIC OTHER, UM, COMMISSIONS TO SHARE OUR WORK AND GET THEIR FEEDBACK AND LEANNA, YOU HAD SEEN LEANNA, SORRY.

UM, YOU HAD SEEN THAT THE, UM, I THINK THE COMMISSION ON PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES HAD ISSUED SOME, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY RELATED TO HOMELESS SERVICES.

MM-HMM .

YEAH.

SO I, I HAD SOME, UH, I THINK INITIAL VOLUNTEERS AT LAST MEETING, INCLUDING PAM WHO SAID THAT THEY WOULD REACH OUT AND GO TO DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS.

DO YOU ALL HAVE AN IDEA OF COMMISSIONS YOU MIGHT LIKE TO VISIT AND BE OUR LIAISON FOR THAT? UM, I DON'T, I DIDN'T EVEN LOOK AT MY LAST NOTES, BUT, UM, I WOULD, I WAS, I WOULD LIKE TO GO AND SEE BECAUSE WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME MM-HMM .

WAS MAYBE THE COMMISSION ON WOMEN AND GIRLS, MAYBE THE SENIOR CITIZENS, UH, MAYBE EQUITY AND HUMAN RIGHTS.

MM-HMM .

AND THEN THE, UM, COMMISSION ON DISABILITIES.

AND SOMEBODY THEN MENTIONED YOUTH AND FAMILIES.

I THINK YOU DID.

YES.

'CAUSE NOW I SEE, NOW I'M REMEMBERING NOW IT'S BECAUSE YES.

TO GET COMBINED EFFORTS FOR THOSE DEMOGRAPHICS, WE NEED MORE SUPPORT IN THIS DEMOGRAPHICS.

MM-HMM .

OKAY.

UM, .

SO, I MEAN, I DON'T

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HAVE ANY PARTICULAR PREFERENCES.

YEAH.

UM, I'M OLD SO I CAN GO TO THE SENIOR CITIZEN LINE.

IT'S THESE DAYS .

UM, AND THE, THIS IS JUST A LIMITED PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, BUT I'VE BEEN IMPRESSED WITH HOW ACTIVE THE PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES CROWD IS.

MM-HMM .

UM, AND UH, AND THEN WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE? I WOULD, I WOULD WANNA GO, I THINK I'D WANNA GO TALK TO WOMEN AND GIRLS.

OKAY.

WELL THAT'S WHAT I STRUGGLE EVERY DAY FINDING SOMETHING FOR WOMEN .

LIKE EVERY DAY I'M LIKE, HOW COME WE AN HAVE, I'M TRYING TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY UPCOMING MEETINGS FOR THE SENIOR CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY ON THE PUBLIC, UM, PAGE LIKE FOR OUR MEETING.

MM-HMM .

UH, WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE THAT YOU MENTIONED? THE WOMEN AND GIRLS HUMAN RIGHTS.

THE HUMAN RIGHTS AND THEN DISABILITIES AND YOUTH AND FAMILIES IS WE, MY THINKING IS THERE'S AT LEAST TWO WAYS FOR US TO APPROACH THIS.

THAT ONE OF THEM MIGHT BE FOR EVEN JUST THE THREE OF US TO EACH PICK ONE THAT'S HAVING A MEETING IN THE NOT.

SO JUST A FUTURE AND GO AND DURING PUBLIC COMMENT SAY, HEY, WE THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME CONNECTIONS BETWEEN YOUR WORK AND THE HOMELESS SERVICES COMMITTEE AND WE'D LOVE TO TALK MORE TO YOUR CHAIRPERSON OR WHATEVER.

YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO FOR THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMISSION OF DISABILITIES, THEY MET ON THE 10TH OF THIS MONTH.

SO THE NEXT MEETING WILL MOST LIKELY BE, LET'S SEE, THE 10TH OF THIS MONTH IN AUGUST, THEY MET ON THE 13.

SO THEY MEET THE SECOND THURSDAY OF EVERY MONTH.

OKAY.

SO THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE OCTOBER 8TH.

WHAT TIME DID THEY MEET JENNIFER? UH, 1:00 PM ARE THEY MEETING AT CITY HALL? UM, LET ME LOOK AT THEIR AGENDA REALLY QUICK.

YEAH.

AT THE CHAMBERS, CIVIC CHAMBERS.

I MEAN, SO THAT'S ONE WAY.

MM-HMM .

THE, BUT WE ALSO COULD FIGURE OUT WHO THE CHAIRPERSON IS AND EMAIL 'EM OR CALL THEM.

UM, WELL, I WANNA GET SOME ADVICE ON THE BROWN ACT ON THAT.

THE BROWN ACT IS A LOT.

OKAY.

SO, UM, BECAUSE I'M USED TO ALWAYS DOING COLLABORATIVE MEETINGS OR ON POLICY.

SO, UM, JENNIFER, CAN WE HOLD A MEETING WITH THE, YOU KNOW, HEAD OF ANOTHER COMMISSION AND DISCUSS OUR, OUR WORK? OR IS THAT A VIOLATION OF THE BROWN ACT? LIKE JUST YOU AND THE YEAH.

AND THE CHAIR OF ANOTHER COMMITTEE.

MM-HMM .

I DON'T SEE WHY NOT.

WHAT'S THE QUESTION ON? AS LONG AS, YEAH.

LET ME, LET ME CLARIFY.

UM, WAS THE IDEA THAT THE, BECAUSE I MIGHT HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD YOUR QUESTION.

LET'S SAY EITHER WAY THAT HAYEK HAS A MEETING AND THEN THE CHAIR COMES AND TALKS ABOUT WHAT THEY'VE DONE.

IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE ASKING? OR ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT A POLITIC OUTSIDE OF OUTSIDE? UM, UH, IT WHAT, AND IT'S, AND IT'S TO TALK JOSEPH ABOUT POLICY THAT RELATES TO THE UNHOUSED HOUSING.

JUST WHAT THEIR PRIORITIES ARE AND WHAT OURS ARE AND WHERE THE OVERLAP IS.

MM-HMM .

MM-HMM .

YEAH.

NO, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE, I THINK THAT THE DANGER WOULD COME FROM, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY YOU SPEAKING TO THE CHAIR THERE AND THEN YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU TEXTING HER BEING LIKE, OH YEAH, I HAD A CONVERSATION.

IT WENT GREAT.

AND THEY SAID THAT THEY'RE ON BOARD WITH WHAT WE'RE SAYING AS LONG AS YOU REPORT OUT ON THE CONVERSATION IN A PUBLIC MEETING.

GOT IT.

OKAY.

YOU CAN HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL, 'CAUSE THERE'S NOTHING EVEN REALLY, LIKE, IT'S A LITTLE HAIRY, OBVIOUSLY, BUT THERE'S REALLY NOTHING EVEN PREVENTING YOU FROM HAVING A BRIEF CONVERSATION THAT'S NOT ABOUT COORDINATING A RESPONSE WITH SOMEONE ON HAYSTACK ITSELF.

IT'S LIKE ONCE YOU GET PAST A CERTAIN POINT.

SO IF YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THESE ARE WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE,

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WHAT ARE YOUR PRIORITIES? SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE SOME ALIGNMENT AND THEN YOU COME BACK HERE AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT OUR CONVERSATION WAS.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE SHOULD CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, EITHER INVITING THEM OR GOING AND PRESENTING THERE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THAT SHOULD BE FINE.

UM, YOU KNOW, I, IT'S A LOT DIFFERENT OBVIOUSLY, BUT LIKE I WAS JUST AT, I WAS JUST PRESENTING AT LONG BEACH, UH, WIN LET WORKFORCE INNOVATION LAST THURSDAY.

AND I HAD DONE A LOT IT BACK FOR, OBVIOUSLY I'M NOT ON THE CONTINUUM OF CARE BOARD.

THE PERSON I WAS SPEAKING TO IS NOT ON THAT BOARD, THE HEAD OF WORKFORCE.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS SIMILAR LIKE ABOUT ALIGNING INTERESTS AND HAVING CONVERSATION AND WE SET UP GOING TO THE BOARD SO THAT, THAT SHOULD BE FINE AS LONG AS, AGAIN, IT'S NOT LIKE A CONVERSATION THAT YOU'RE THEN GOING BACK TO OTHER MEMBERS AND YOU'RE GIVING THEM UPDATES OR YOU'RE LIKE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF HAVING A CONVERSATION THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SOMEHOW COORDINATION STRATEGY.

YOU GET EACH BOARD TO DO SOMETHING TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO YOU SHOULD BE OKAY.

YEAH, THAT'S HELPFUL.

SO I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS, UM, SHOULD I, OR WE EMAIL EACH OF THE CHAIRS OF THESE COMMISSIONS AND SAY, HEY, ARE YOU AVAILABLE EITHER TO COME TO OUR NEXT POLICY COMMITTEE MEETING MM-HMM .

AND WE'LL JUST, YOU KNOW, 10 TO 15 MINUTES ON EACH TOPIC? OR IF YOU'RE NOT AVAILABLE AT THAT TIME, GLAD TO MEET WITH YOU FOR A COFFEE YEAH.

TO CATCH UP.

BUT I WONDER SINCE THE, UM, THE COMMISSION ON PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES ACTUALLY ISSUED RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOMELESS SERVICES, WE ALREADY KNOW THEY'VE FORMALLY GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

I WONDER IF THEY SHOULD BE INVITED TO PRESENT THOSE AT THE HAYSTACK MEETING.

UM, OR IF THAT SHOULD AT LEAST BE ON THE AGENDA IN THE HAYSTACK MEETING AND SAY, LOOK, OUR FELLOW COMMISSION YES.

I THINK WE SHOULD COME IN, WE SHOULD INVITE YOU TO COME.

YEAH.

I LOVE THAT.

I WAS GONNA ASK FROM, UM, THAT ANY KIND OF LIKE CONFLICT OR ANYTHING, BUT LIKE COMMISSIONS THAT DO, DO SOME WORK TOGETHER.

LIKE THEY, WE DO THE WORK AT OUR MEETINGS, LIKE EITHER AT THEIR MEETINGS OR EITHER ONE OF THEIR MEETINGS, RIGHT.

IF THERE'S TWO COMMISSIONS WORKING TOGETHER ON SOMETHING, IS THAT USUALLY HOW THAT WOULD HAPPEN? I'M SORRY, CAN YOU, UM, SO LIKE SAY IF TWO COMMISSIONS, I DON'T KNOW, WANTED TO OVERLAP ON SOME SOMETHING, HOW DOES, HOW WOULD THAT, WOULD THAT WORK ON BOTH OF THE COMMISSIONS? LIKE WOULD BE PRESENTING AT YEAH, THEY, YEAH.

EACH OR YOU CAN, YOU CAN TECHNICALLY DO A JOINT MEETING.

YEAH.

UM, THAT WOULD BE, UH, THAT'S, UH, WE'VE, I MEAN I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE HAD HERE, I KNOW THAT THERE'S, THERE ARE OCCASIONALLY JOINT MEETINGS, SO IT COULD BE OKAY.

RATHER THAN, UM, PRESENTING SEPARATELY, YOU KNOW, YOU SAY WE'D LIKE TO CALL IT JOINT SPECIAL MEETING AND IT'S GONNA BE SPECIFICALLY ON LIKE THIS, THIS ONE TOPIC THAT WE'RE COLLABORATING ON, YOU KNOW OKAY.

ABOUT THE OPERA, LIKE OPERATING, LIKE, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD.

YEAH.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'RE GONNA KIND OF ESTABLISH OUR PRIORITIES AND THEN, UM, YEAH.

AND KIND OF, UH, TAKE IT, IT FROM THERE.

LIKE SAY LIKE SAY THERE WAS A JOINT COMMISSION THAT WAS PUTTING JUST A RECOMMENDATION.

THAT'S WHAT I WOULD JUST FIGURE THAT WOULD HAPPEN RIGHT.

TO, UM, COUNT LIKE, YEAH.

TO COUNCIL MM-HMM .

SO YEAH, THEY WOULD JUST WORK TOGETHER ON THAT AND BE LIKE, OH, WE'RE BOTH ON THIS, WE'RE BOTH HITTING THIS MEMO ON THIS ONE SPECIFIC TOPIC.

I'M JUST THINKING LIKE, IF IT'S DIS DISABILITY AND THEY HAVE LIKE SOMETHING WE'RE LIKE, OH, WE WANNA SUPPORT THAT WITH YOU.

MM-HMM .

YEAH.

I MEAN THAT'S POSSIBLE.

THAT'S LIKE YOU'D ESTABLISH WHAT YOU'RE WORKING ON TOGETHER IN THE, IN THE PUBLIC MEETING AND THEN JUST MAY, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, DRAFTS AND STUFF WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, PUBLISHED MOVING FORWARD.

HERE'S A DRAFT THAT WE JUST WORKED ON.

OKAY.

UM, THINGS LIKE THAT.

YEAH.

THAT, THAT SHOULD BE OKAY.

I HAVEN'T HELD TO JOIN ME.

I CAN DEFINITELY DIG INTO IT MORE.

I'VE DEFINITELY SEEN IT.

AND OBVIOUSLY LIKE THE INTENTION IS NOT TO RIGHT.

PROHIBIT GROUPS FROM WORKING TOGETHER.

IT'S TRYING TO ENSURE PUBLIC TRANSPARENCY, TRANSPARENT.

EXACTLY.

YEAH.

IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT THE BACKROOM DEALINGS, BUT THAT'S NOT THE INTENTION, YOU KNOW, THE INTENTION IS TO COLLABORATE ON A PROJECT.

SO IT WOULD BE LIKE LAUNCHING IN A SPECIFIC WAY BECAUSE LIKE THINKING LIKE ALREADY, LIKE IF THE DISABILITY COMMISSION HAS ALREADY BEEN WORKING ON LIKE, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT, YOU KNOW, COLLAB LIKE COLLABORATIVE SUPPORT TO, YOU KNOW, FOR OUR DEMOGRAPHICS EVEN FOR LIKE YOUTH AND FAMILIES, WOMEN.

LIKE IT'S A GOOD OVERLAP.

THERE'S LOTS OF POTENTIAL.

YEAH.

OR TO, YOU KNOW, THIS DEMOGRAPHIC IS LACKING IN, I DON'T KNOW.

YEAH.

BUT I LIKE IF IT'S A POSSIBILITY, I LIKE THAT.

LIKE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IT PUBLICLY AND THEN YEAH.

MM-HMM .

SO JENNIFER, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO INVITE SOMEONE FROM THAT, UM, COMMISSION TO SPEAK AT OUR GENERAL PAYS MEETING IN OCTOBER? UM, TO PRESENT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS SPECIFICALLY FROM WHAT COMMISSION? UH, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE, UM, AND THEN FOR THE WOMAN AND GIRLS, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY MEET ON THE FOURTH WEDNESDAY

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OF EVERY MONTH AT SIX 30.

UM, LET ME SEE THE LOCATION AT THE CIVIC CHAMBERS AS WELL.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UM, SPECIFICALLY THE, WHAT IS THE FORMAL NAME OF THE COMMITTEE? IT'S THE COMMISSION ON THE RIGHTS OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

YEAH.

AND I DON'T, OH, I DON'T, THE ONE THAT CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMISSION ON DISABILITY IS THAT? YES.

AND THEY, THEY PUT OUT SPECIFICALLY, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW THE HOMELESS SERVICES BUREAU CAN BETTER SERVE PEOPLE WITH DISABILITY.

SO WE'D LIKE SOMEONE TO, WELL INFORMALLY SHARE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT'S THERE.

WELL, THERE'S A, A PLAN BEEN DEVELOPED.

IT'S CALLED, OH GOD.

IT'S, IT'S ABOUT AGING IN LONG BEACH AND WHAT DO YOU NEED? AND SO I FORGET WHAT IT'S CALLED.

AGE LIKE IT LOOKS LIKE AN AGING IN PLACE KIND OF.

YEAH.

BUT IT'S GOT A, OF COURSE IT HAS A SPECIFIC NAME AND I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME.

IS IT THE COMMISSION THAT YOU'RE, PARDON? THE COMMISSION THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO THINK OF? CITIZENS ADVISOR? NO, THERE'S A LITERALLY A, A DOCUMENT.

OH, OKAY.

OH, THAT GOT DEVELOPED AND OH, I'LL SEND IT.

UM, OH, YOU HAVE IT.

IT'S, AGAIN, IT'S ABOUT AGING, BEING ABLE TO AGE IN LONG BEACH.

UM, AND ONE OF THE PRIORITIES THAT GOT IDENTIFIED IN THAT STUDY WAS HOUSING AND THE, THE, THE NUMBER OF OLDER FOLKS WHO ARE EITHER ALREADY HOMELESS OR THE ONES THAT ARE GETTING EVICTED, THREATENED WITH EVICTIONS THAT ARE LIKE JUST A DAY AWAY FROM BEING UNHOUSED.

UM, AND SO THEY HAD A RECOMMENDATION.

THE COMMISSION HAD A RECOMMENDATION TO HIGHLIGHT AND DO WORK ON THAT, TO PRIORITIZE THAT.

BUT I DID THINK IT WAS PERTAINING TO PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

WHAT AM I MISREMEMBERING THAT? WELL, THAT WAS ALSO PART OF IT.

I MEAN THE RIGHT, BECAUSE THE DISABLED ARE ALMOST, IT'S ALMOST PARALLEL TO WHAT'S HAPPENING TO, TO OLDER RESIDENTS AND WHAT'S HAPPENING TO, TO THE DISABLED.

AND SO THERE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I MEAN THERE WERE SOME, TO ME, I JUST, IT REALLY JUMPED OUT AT ME THAT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, LIKE THE SECOND OR THIRD ONE WAS ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS.

IT WAS LIKE, WOW.

ALRIGHT.

SO I'LL SEND YOU THAT INFORMATION TO INVITE A REPRESENTATIVE TO KIND OF FORMALLY PRESENT THOSE.

AND THEN I WILL, I WILL EMAIL THE CHAIRS OF THE THREE OTHER COMMITTEES AND SAY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME TO OUR NEXT POLICY COMMITTEE MEETING OR SHOULD WE SET UP A COFFEE? AND THEN BASED ON THE ONES YOU IDENTIFIED, WE CAN DO THE COFFEE.

OKAY.

YOU DIVIDE UP.

OKAY, COOL.

COUPLE OF MINOR POINTS OF CLARIFICATION.

JUST I WAS LOOKING UP.

SO, UH, IF YOU WANTED TO END UP HOLDING A JOINT MEETING, WHICH WOULD BE A MEETING WHERE BOTH BODIES WOULD MEET RATHER THAN JUST ONE PERSON PRESENTING TO THE OTHER BODY, WHICH THAT'S FINE, YOU CAN JUST PRESENT TO THE OTHER BODY.

BUT IF YOU WANTED TO HOLD A JOINT MEETING, UM, EVEN IF AT THE SAME LOCATION, UH, WE, BOTH BODIES WOULD DEVELOP AGENDAS.

BOTH BODIES WOULD POST THE AGENDAS AND EACH BODY WOULD HAVE TO MAINTAIN A QUORUM DURING THE MEETING.

SO THE MEETING COULD CONTINUE, BUT LET'S SAY HAYSTACK, A FEW PEOPLE DROPPED OUT, THEN THE REST OF HAYSTACK WOULD THEN BE RELEGATED, DELEGATED TO BEING MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND COULD CONTINUE TO LISTEN IN WHILE THEY HOLD THE REST OF THEIR OFFICIAL MEETING.

GOT IT.

OKAY.

BUT YOU'D NO LONGER BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN YOUR CAPACITY AS A HAY SIDE MEMBER? SO JUST A COUPLE YEAH.

MEMBERS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

AND I ELSE ON THIS TOPIC, I CAN DO A PLAN GOING FORWARD.

UM, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.

OKAY.

UM, ALL IN FAVOR.

OKAY.

UM, I THINK WE'RE TO THE FORMAL PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION.

WELL, DO YOU WANT TO ALSO REAL QUICKLY TALK ABOUT FUTURE AGENDA? FUTURE AGENDA? SORRY.

UH, YES.

IF WE'RE ABLE TO, UM, WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE ADD? THE OLYMPICS IS WHAT'S REALLY BEGINNING TO CONCERN ME.

UM, AND SO THE, I DON'T KNOW HOW, HOW TO START THAT ADDRESSING THAT ISSUE OR LOOKING AT THAT ISSUE.

I DON'T, IS IT, IS IT BEST THAT WE ASK LIKE A HOMELESS SERVICES TO SOMEONE FROM STAFF TO, TO SHARE WITH US WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED, WHAT THEIR ROLE IS UP TO DATE, UM, IN MAKING PLANS.

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UH, AND THEN MAYBE OFF OF THAT, I JUST AM WONDERING WHAT ARE OTHER MODELS AND EFFORTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AROUND PROTECTING THE RIGHTS OF THE UNHOUSED? SOUNDS LIKE WE CAN HAVE SOME GUEST SPEAKERS FROM OTHER CITIES.

YEAH, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO OUR GENERAL, UH, COMMITTEE AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS IT IN POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE.

UM, OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

UM, WE'RE TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

OKAY.

ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK ON NON-AG AGENDA ITEMS? SEEING IT? ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? OKAY.

WE'LL JOINING THE MEETING AT 2:58 PM WOW.

SARAH.