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OOH, THAT WAS A LITTLE LOUD.

SORRY.

.

UH, GOOD MORNING

[CALL TO ORDER]

EVERYONE.

UH, WELCOME TO THE PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION MEETING.

IT'S THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 17TH.

THE MEETING IS CALLED THE ORDER, UH, FOR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TODAY.

MAY

[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

I PLEASE CALL ON LEILA STEVENS? THERE SHE IS.

UNITED STATES, IRAQ UNDERGRAD.

LIBERTY.

THANK YOU LEILA.

UH, DINA, MAY WE PLEASE HAVE ROLL CALL PRESIDENT

[ROLL CALL]

SCOTT, VICE PRESIDENT CORDERO.

HERE.

SECRETARY PARKIN PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER MCGUIRE.

COMMISSIONER AUSTIN HERE.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A QUORUM.

THANK YOU.

UH, LITTLE HOUSEKEEPING FROM THE BOARD RETREAT FOR THE RECORD.

COMMISSIONER MCGUIRE IS EXCUSED, UH, FROM THE SEPTEMBER 3RD BOARD RETREAT.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS FROM THE BOARD? SEEING NONE, WE'LL PROCEED TO THE NEXT AGENDA

[ELECTION OF OFFICERS – PRESIDENT, VICE PRESIDENT, SECRETARY]

ITEM, WHICH IS THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS.

UM, SO I WILL NOW ACCEPT NOMINATIONS FOR BOARD OFFICERS FOR 2026.

2027.

UH, THE FIRST OFFICER IS, UH, UH, PRESIDENT, UH, DECLARE NOMINATIONS OPEN FOR BOARD OF PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSIONERS PRESIDENT.

UH, AND IF YOU RECALL, EACH MEMBER MAY NOMINATE ONE PERSON FOR PRESIDENT, INCLUDING YOURSELF.

THESE NOMINATIONS DO NOT REQUIRE A SECOND.

AND AS A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE GLORIA CORDERO.

UH, ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? ALRIGHT.

UH, THERE BEING NO FURTHER NOMINATIONS.

I DECLARE THE NOMINATIONS CLOSED FOR PRESIDENT.

ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS SAYING NONE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF GLORIA CORDERO FOR PRESIDENT SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? NONE.

THANK YOU.

UH, MOVING ON, VICE PRESIDENT.

SO I NOW DECLARE THE NOMINATIONS OPEN FOR BOARD OF PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSIONERS, VICE PRESIDENT.

AGAIN, EACH MEMBER MAY NOMINATE ONE PERSON FOR VICE PRESIDENT, INCLUDING YOURSELF.

THESE NOMINATIONS DO NOT REQUIRE A SECOND.

UH, ARE THERE ANY NOMINATIONS FOR VICE PRESIDENT? YES, I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE, UM, COMMISSIONER CHARLIE PARKIN.

THANK YOU.

CHARLIE PARKIN FOR VICE PRESIDENT.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? SEEING NONE, UH, THERE BEING NO FURTHER NOMINATIONS.

I DECLARE NOMINATIONS CLOSED FOR VICE PRESIDENT.

ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? SEEING NONE.

UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CHARLIE PARKIN FOR VICE PRESIDENT SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? NONE OPPOSED.

THANK YOU.

AND MOVING ON.

FINALLY, SECRETARY, I DECLARE NOMINATIONS OPEN FOR A BOARD OF PUBLIC UTILITIES.

COMMISSIONER, SECRETARY AGAIN, EACH MEMBER MAY NOMINATE ONE PERSON.

FOR SIR, I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE COMMISSIONER AUSTIN FOR SECRETARY.

EXCELLENT.

UH, AL AUSTIN FOR SECRETARY.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? SEEING NONE, UH, THE, UH, NOMINATION PERIOD IS CLOSED.

UH, I DECLARE, UH, NOMINATIONS FOR SECRETARY AL AUSTIN.

ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? SEEING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF AL AUSTIN FOR SECRETARY SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? NO OPPOSED.

THANK YOU.

SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THE NEWLY ELECTED PRESIDENT, VICE PRESIDENT AND SECRETARY.

YOU WILL ASSUME YOU NEW POST AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.

OCTOBER 1ST, 2026.

THANK YOU.

MOVING ON CONSENT CALENDAR.

[CONSENT CALENDAR]

UH, MAY I PLEASE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT CALENDARS ITEMS NUMBER ONE THROUGH FOUR? SO MOVED.

THANK YOU.

AND A SECOND.

SECOND.

THANK YOU.

ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON CONSENT? SEEING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? NONE.

THANK YOU.

MOVING ON.

UH, OKAY.

SO WE GOT A BIT OF A MARATHON SESSION, THAT'S WHY YOU MIGHT NOTICE ME GOING A LITTLE BIT FAST HERE.

RAPID FIRE, WE'LL SLOW IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

MOVING INTO THE REGULAR AGENDA.

SO ITEM NUMBER FIVE,

[5. 26-56140 Recommendation to authorize the General Manager to execute all documents necessary to amend Contract No. UT-3919 with Southland Industries, of Garden Grove, California, for heating, ventilation, and air conditioning (HVAC) maintenance services, to increase the annual contract amount by $300,000, for a revised annual contract amount not to exceed $609,000.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

AUTHORIZE THE GENERAL MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO AMEND CONTRACT NUMBER UT 3 9 19 WITH SOUTHLAND INDUSTRIES OF GARDEN GROVE, CALIFORNIA FOR H HVAC, HEATING, VENTILATION, AND AIR CONDITIONING.

MAY I PLEASE HAVE A SECOND? SO MOVE.

THANK YOU.

AND, UH, I'M SORRY, WE'LL CALL THAT A MOTION.

MAY I PLEASE HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND.

THANK YOU.

UH, CALL ON SEAN CURTIS FOR A VERBAL PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

MORNING COMMISSIONERS AND THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TODAY.

UH, FOR THIS ITEM, STAFF IS REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL TO AMEND THE DEPARTMENT'S CONTRACT WITH SOUTHLAND INDUSTRIES FOR HEATING, VENTILATION, AND AIR CONDITIONING OR HVAC MAINTENANCE SERVICES.

THIS CONTRACT WAS ORIGINALLY AWARDED IN NOVEMBER OF 2024.

FOLLOW A COMPETITIVE PROCUREMENT PROCESS

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AND INCLUDES A THREE YEAR TERM WITH TWO OPTIONAL ONE YEAR RENEWAL PERIODS.

CURRENTLY, THE DEPARTMENT IS AUTHORIZED TO SPEND UP TO $309,000 ANNUALLY.

THE CURRENT SITUATION IS A AGING HVAC INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE INCREASINGLY FREQUENT, UH, HEAT EVENTS HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY STRAINED THE SYSTEMS ACCELERATED EQUIPMENT WEAR AND THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE AND, UH, EMERGENCY REPAIRS.

THESE SYSTEMS ARE ESSENTIAL FOR MAINTAINING SAFE WORKING CONDITIONS FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, UH, COMPLYING WITH CAL OSHA INDOOR HEAT ILLNESS REQUIREMENTS AND ENSURING THE CONTINUITY OF OUR OPERATIONS.

THIS IS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT AT OUR GROUNDWATER TREATMENT PLANT, OR FAILURE TO MAINTAIN A CONSISTENT TEMPERATURE IN OUR WATER.

QUALITY LABORATORIES CAN IMPACT THE ACCURACY OF TEST RESULTS.

AS MANY ANALYTICAL PROCESSES AND EQUIPMENT ARE HIGHLY SENSITIVE TO FLUCTUATIONS IN TEMPERATURE TEMPERATURE.

OUR REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING WILL PROVIDE THE FLEXIBILITY NEEDED TO SUPPORT BOTH ROUTINE MAINTENANCE AND URGENT REPAIRS ACROSS OUR FACILITIES.

WITH THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE BOARD AUTHORIZE THE GENERAL MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO AMEND CONTRACT NUMBER UT 3 9 1 9 WITH SOUTHLAND INDUSTRIES OF GARDEN GROVE, CALIFORNIA FOR HEATING, VENTILATION AND AIR CONDITIONING MAINTENANCE SERVICES TO INCREASE THE ANNUAL CONTRACT AMOUNT BY $300,000 FOR A REVISED ANNUAL CONTRACT AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $609,000.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

THANKS, SEAN.

ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS AND ANY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? YES, SIR.

THIS ISN'T GONNA CHANGE THE TERM, RIGHT? SO THE TERM WILL REMAIN THE SAME.

THIS IS JUST AN ADDITIONAL AUTHORIZATION AS EXPENDITURE? CORRECT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

NO OTHER QUESTION.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.

SEEING NONE, UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? OPPOSED? THANKS SEAN.

UH, ITEM NUMBER

[6. 26-56143 Recommendation to adopt Specifications WD-08-26 and award a contract to Lucas Builders, Inc., of La Habra, California, for the Rehabilitation of Sewer Lift Stations S-19, S-28, and S-29 Project (SC-0510), in a total amount not to exceed $4,364,288.00; and authorize the General Manager to execute all documents necessary to enter into the contract, including any amendments.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

SIX AND

[7. 26-56144 Recommendation to adopt Request for Proposal (RFP) to provide Construction Management and Inspection Services for the Rehabilitation of Sewer Lift Stations S-19, S-28, and S-29 Project (SC-0510), and award a contract to Accenture Infrastructure and Capital Projects, LLC, of Chicago, Illinois, in a total amount not to exceed $831,485.00, for a period of three years; and authorize the General Manager to execute all documents necessary to enter into the contract, including any amendments.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

SEVEN, UH, HAVE ONE PRESENTATION.

UH, WE'LL HEAR THE, THE SINGLE PRESENTATION FOR BOTH ITEMS AND THEN WE'LL VOTE ON THE ITEMS TOGETHER.

SO ITEM NUMBER SIX, ADOPT SPECIFICATIONS WD 0 8 2 6 AND AWARD CONTRACTED LUCAS BUILDERS INC.

OF LAHABRA, CALIFORNIA FOR THE REHABILITATION OF SEWER LIFT STATIONS S 19 28 29.

UH, AND ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, ADOPT REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL.

PROVIDE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT INSPECTION SERVICES THROUGH THE REHAB OF THE SAME SEWER LIFT STATIONS 19 28 29 AWARD A CONTRACT TO ACCENTURE INFRASTRUCTURE AND CAPITAL PROJECTS LLC OF CHICAGO, ILLINOIS.

UM, MAY I PLEASE HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED.

THANK YOU.

UH, AND CALL ON LELA STEVENS FOR THE PRESENTATION.

HELLO, LELA.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS LELA STEVENS.

I'M A CIVIL ENGINEER UNDER THE WATER SEWER PIPELINE INFRASTRUCTURE GROUP.

AND FOR THE, FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION, ITEM NUMBER SIX AND SEVEN IS FOR THE REHABILITATION OF SEWER LIFT STATIONS S 19, S 28, AND S 29.

AS PART OF THE 2023 MASS SEWER MASTER PLAN UPDATE CONDITION ASSESSMENT WAS PERFORMED ON 22 SEWER LIFT STATIONS WITHIN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH.

S 19 S 28 AND S 29 WERE IDENTIFIED.

THE WERE THE STATIONS IDENTIFIED NEEDING IMPROVEMENTS TO EXTEND THEIR USEFUL LIFE AND IMPROVING THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE FOR S 19 RIGHT HERE, THIS IS LOCATED RIGHT TO THE NORTH OF QUEENSWAY RIDGE.

THIS, THIS LIFT STATION WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 2001 AND LAST REHABILITATED IN 2019.

THE LIFT STATION CONSISTS OF TWO PUMPS WITH A SINGLE 16 INCH FORCE MAIN AND SERVICES VARIOUS HOTEL ALONG ALONG HARBOR CENIC DRIVE.

AND GOING ONTO ALL THE WAY ACROSS TO THE OTHER SIDE OF COASTAL AREA OF LONG BEACH, WE HAVE S 28 THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE MARINA MARINA STADIUM.

THIS LIFT LIFT STATION WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1966 WITH A SINGLE PUMP AND FOUR INCH FORCE MAIN THAT SERVICED LONG BEACH ROWING ASSOCIATION ALONG THE BOWHOUSE LANE.

BACK TO THE EAST SIDE, WEST SIDE OF THE LONG BEACH, WE HAVE S 29 LIFT STATION THAT IS WITHIN THE PARKING LOT RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE QUEEN MARY.

THIS LIFT STATION WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1992 WITH A SINGLE PUMP AND THREE INCH FORCE MAIN THAT SERVES CATALINA CLASSIC CRUISE JUST RIGHT OUTSIDE OF QUEEN MARY.

ALL THESE LIFT STATIONS ARE WITHIN THE EXPECTED TRAFFIC AREA OF LA 2028 IN OLYMPIC EVENT.

SO WE DO HAVE THE GOAL OF COMPLETING ALL THESE LIFT STATIONS BEFORE THE END OF 2027 DUE TO THE OLYMPIC MORATORIUM.

SO THE LIFT STATIONS UNDER THIS PROJECT ARE RELATIVELY

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SMALL COMPARED TO OUR OTHER LIFT STATIONS IN THE CITY.

THE TOP TWO IMAGES SHOWS THE EXAMPLE OF S 19 ON THE LEFT AND THE S 28 ON THE RIGHT.

WHAT YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT HERE FOR S 19, THAT'S JUST TO THE NORTH OF QUEENSWAY BRIDGE.

WE HAVE THE, WELL, WELL, THAT'S IN THE PAVED ROADWAY ROADWAY AREA, AND WE HAVE VAULT THAT'S RIGHT HERE TO THE, IN THE LANDSCAPING AREA WITH THE ELECTRICAL AND COMMUNICATION EQUIPMENT TO THE RIGHT S FOR S 28.

THIS ALMOST LOOKS LIKE A SEWER MANHOLE.

THIS IS THE WELL, WELL FOR S 28 WITH THE ELECTRICAL BOX TO THE RIGHT NEXT TO THE LIFT STATION.

AND WE ALSO HAVE THE ELECTRICAL AND COMMUNICATION EQUIPMENT FOR THE S 28 WITHIN THE, UH, BUILDING STRUCTURE THAT'S CURRENTLY USED BY LONG BEACH RUNNING ASSOCIATION.

THE IDENTIFIED LIFT STATIONS, CONS, DEFICIENCIES, VARIES AND RANGES FROM SITE, STRUCTURAL, MECHANICAL, AND ELECTRICAL.

THE FIRST THREE BOTTOM IMAGES SHOWS THE IDENTIFIED DEFECTS SUCH AS DETERIORATED PIPE PIPE, DETERIORATED PIPE VAULT, UH, CORRODED DISCHARGE PIPELINE, AND FAILED PIPE COATING.

AND THIS LAST IMAGE SHOWS THE ELECTRICAL AND COMMUNICATION EQUIPMENT WITHIN THE BUILDING STRUCTURE FOR S 28.

AS FOR THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENT, THE REHABILITATION OF S 19 WILL CONSIST OF INSTALLATION OF SEWER BYPASS, CONSTRUCTION OF NEW VALVE VAULT AND MECHANICAL EQUIPMENTS, AND NEW FLOOR DRAIN AND NEW ANTENNA POLE WITH A NEW FORCE MAIN THAT WILL BE CONNECTED TO THE EXISTING SEWER SYSTEM, ALONG WITH OTHER MISCELLANEOUS ELECTRICAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR S 20 A.

THE SCOPE, THE SCOPE FOR S 28 WILL BE SIMILAR TO S 19 WITH THE ADDITIONAL COMPONENT OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW WELLWELL AND NEW INFLUENCE MAINTENANCE HOLE, AS WELL AS UPLOAD, UPGRADE AND RELOCATE THE EXISTING ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT FROM OUTSIDE OF THE INSIDE, FROM INSIDE OF THE BUILDING STRUCTURE TO OUTSIDE.

THIS WILL IMPROVE THE CRUISE ACCESS TO FOR OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE.

AND FOR S 28, WELL, FOR S 28, WE THANK YOU FOR THE SERVICE AND WE CAN, AS WE WILL BE DECOMMISSIONED AND ABANDONED THIS LIFT STATION WITH A REPLACEMENT OF THE APPROXIMATELY 848 LINEAR FEET OF SIX INCH GRAVITY SEWER LATERAL.

ADDITIONALLY, WITHIN THE SAME PROJECT VICINITY, THERE IS A 10 INCH FORCEMENT THAT SERVICES THE QUEEN MARY.

SO WE WILL PERFORM A PIPELINE REPLACEMENT FOR APPROXIMATELY 607, UH, 678 LINEAR FEET OF 10 INCH FORCEMENT, OH, SORRY, GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.

SO THERE ARE SOME CONSTRUCTION IMPACTS FOR THIS WORK WITH S 19.

GIVEN THAT IT SERVICE VARIOUS HOTEL ALONG HARBOR SENIC DRIVE, THE CONTRACTORS SHALL BE REQUIRED TO CONSTRUCT A TEMPORARY SEWER BYPASS TO MINIMIZE THE NEARBY BUSINESS.

AND FOR S 28, BECAUSE THE WORK INVOLVES THE ELECTRICAL IMPROVEMENT, THERE ARE POTENTIAL MATERIAL LEAD TIME DELAY THAT MAY DELAY PUSH BACK THE SCHEDULE.

IN THIS CASE, DUE TO THE OLYMPIC MORATORIUM, OLYMPIC MORATORIUM, WE HAVE PROVIDED A CONTINGENCY PLAN FOR OPTIONAL WORK OF COMMISSIONING THE S 20 A LIFT STATION, USING THE EXISTING ELECTRICAL POWER IN THE INTERIM, AND COMPLETE THE ELECTRICAL IMPROVEMENT WORK FOR AFTER THE OLYMPICS, ONCE THE MATERIAL GETS ARRIVED, DELIVER.

AND FOR S 29, GIVEN THE LO ITS LOCATION WITHIN THE QUEEN MARY, UH, OBVIOUSLY THERE WILL BE SOME KNOWN EVENTS SUCH AS, SUCH AS DARK HARBOR CONCERTS AND OTHER FESTIVALS.

SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE CITY TO DEVELOP THE PHASING PLAN TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT TO THE EVENTS AND TRAFFIC.

AND THE CONTRACTORS ARE REQUIRED TO COMPLETE ALL THE WORK FOR S 29 SCOPE SPECIFICALLY, SPECIFICALLY FROM THE TIME JANUARY TO APRIL TIMEFRAME.

AND THIS WAS ALSO THE WINDOW THAT WAS AGREED BOTH BY, FROM AGREED BETWEEN BOTH THE CITY AND THE DESIGN CONSULTANT AS DEEMED FEASIBLE.

THE TOTAL CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT TIME IS 365 CALENDAR DAYS WITH ANTICIPATE CONSTRUCTION START TIME IN JANUARY OF 2027 AND END TIME OF DECEMBER, 2027.

AND THE CONTINGENCY PLAN IS SPECIFICALLY FOR S 28 LIFT STATION IN CASE IN THE EVENT OF A MATERIAL DELAY.

AND SO WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, COMPLETING THE ELECTRICAL IMPROVEMENT FOR AFTER THE 2028 OLYMPICS.

SO FOR TODAY'S AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER SIX, ON AUGUST 6TH, A NOTICE OF INVITING BID WAS DISTRIBUTED FOR THIS PROJECT.

174 FIRMS WERE NOTIFIED AND 20 PROSPECTIVE BIDDERS

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DOWNLOADED THE BID DOCUMENT.

ON SEPTEMBER 1ST, WE RECEIVED ONE BID FROM LUCAS BUILDER, INC.

THE BID SUBMITTED WAS FOUND TO BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE BID DOCUMENTS.

AND WITH THIS INFORMATION, WE RECOMMEND THE BOARD TO AUTHORIZE THE GENERAL MANAGER TO ADOPT SPECIFICATIONS WD 8 26 AND AWARD A CONTRACT TO LUCAS BUILDERS INC.

OF LA HARBOR, CALIFORNIA FOR THIS PROJECT IN A TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $4,364,288 AND AUTHORIZE THE GENERAL MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO ENTER INTO THE CONTRACT, INCLUDING ANY AMENDMENT FOR TODAY'S AGENDA.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, ON AUGUST 7TH, A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL WAS DISTRIBUTED TO THE, UH, TO PROVIDE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND INSPECTION SERVICES FOR THIS PROJECT.

101 HUNDRED 11 POTENTIAL FIRMS WERE NOTIFIED AND NINE PERSPECTIVE BIDDERS DOWNLOADED THE BID DOCUMENT.

ON AUGUST 25TH, WE RECEIVED THREE PROPOSALS AND ESSENTIAL INFRASTRUCTURE, INFRASTRUCTURE AND CAPITAL PROJECT LLD WAS SELECTED BASED OFF STAFF'S EVALUATION AND RECOMMENDATION.

AND WITH THAT, WE RECOMMEND THE BOARD TO AUTHORIZE THE GENERAL MANAGER TO ADOPT REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL TO PROVIDE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND INSPECTION SERVICES FOR THE, FOR THIS PROJECT AND AWARD A CONTRACT TO A CENTRAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND CAPITAL PROJECT LLC OF CHICAGO, ILLINOIS, THE TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $831,485 FOR A PERIOD OF THREE YEARS, AND AUTHORIZE THE GENERAL MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO ENTER INTO THE CONTRACT, INCLUDING ANY AMENDMENTS.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I'M OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? ANY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT LUCAS BUILDERS.

YES.

UH, IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, THEY'RE AN MBE, BUT THEY'RE ALSO LONG BEACH SMALL BUSINESS ENTERPRISE.

I SHOULD KNOW THIS, BUT DOES THAT MEAN THEY'RE A LONG BEACH BUSINESS? YES, THAT WAS WHAT'S IDENTIFIED.

THEY, UH, HAVE IDENTIFIED THEMSELVES ON THE LONG BEACH PROJECT.

SO THEY'RE NOT JUST INVOLVED IN IT, LIKE THE WORKFORCE INVESTMENT OR SOMETHING.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN LONG BEACH.

OKAY, GREAT.

THEN MY SECOND QUESTION IS ACCENTURE, THEY'RE FROM CHICAGO, CORRECT? THAT'S WHAT'S THEIR, UH, CURRENT HEADQUARTERS? YES.

OKAY.

AND THEN JUST, UM, SO YOU HAD TWO OTHERS AND I'M NOT QUESTIONING OUR DECISION AT ALL.

UM, BUT ONE OF THEM WAS LOCAL.

IS THAT, WAS THIS BASED ON, UM, COST OF BID? IS THAT WHAT IT IS? FOR THE, FOR THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT SERVICES? UH, FOR THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND THE INSPECTION SERVICES SELECTION, WE LOOK INTO THE PROPOSALS AND LOOKING TO THEIR RELEVANT PROJECT EXPERIENCE AND THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF PROJECTS.

SO IT'S NOT REALLY DIRECTLY LOOKING TO THE COST FOR THE, UH, CONSULTANT SELECTION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

APPRECIATE IT.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? I'LL JUST SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, UH, COMMISSIONER PARK AND MYSELF AND TY ALONG WITH STAFF, WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TOUR SOME OF THESE, UM, PROPOSED LIFT STATIONS FOR, THAT ARE, THAT ARE PART OF THE ELEVATE 28, UM, PLAN.

AND, UH, UH, SEEING IT HERE, UM, REALLY, REALLY BRINGS IT HOME BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO AND VISIT THOSE SITES AND, AND SEE THE CORROSION AND SEE THE AREAS THAT, THAT NEEDED TO BE, THAT NEEDED TO BE UPGRADED.

AND SO, UM, I'M COMPLETELY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS, UH, BUT I'LL JUST SAY I, I WANNA PUBLICLY THANK, UH, TY AND THE TEAM FOR, YOU KNOW, TAKING THE TIME OUT TO, TO SHOW US COMMISSIONERS, UM, THE ACTUAL WORK, UM, BECAUSE IT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU ACTUALLY GO OUT AND SEE IT AND TOUCH IT AND UNDERSTAND THE WORK AS OPPOSED TO SEEING IT IN A STAFF REPORT.

SO THANK YOU.

MM-HMM .

YES SIR.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT IS ONE YEAR, BUT THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT CONTRACT IS THREE YEARS.

IS THERE A REASON THEY'RE NOT SYNCED TO THE SAME TIME PERIOD FOR THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT? WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE CONTRACTOR COMPLETE THE WORK WITHIN THE ONE YEAR TIMEFRAME TO NOT IMPACT THE OLYMPIC MORATORIUM.

AS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND INSPECTION SERVICES, THERE ARE SOME CLOSEOUT PROCEDURE OUTSIDE ONCE THE, UH, CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETED AS WELL AS THE PRE-WORK.

SO THE SCHEDULE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT TYPICALLY IS A BIT LONGER THAN THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION TIME.

OKAY.

AND THEN BEAR WITH ME, BUT DID THE UTILITIES, THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT PREPARE THE SPECIFICATIONS THAT WENT OUT FOR A BID,

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UH, UH, BY LUCAS BUILDERS, OR WAS THAT DONE BY A OUTSIDE CONTRACTOR? IT'S WORKED WITH OUR DESIGN CONSULTANT.

I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT ANSWER.

SO DID WE DO THAT IN-HOUSE OR WAS IT, UH, OUTSIDE CONSULTANT? THIS WAS SOURCED WITH A DESIGN CONSULTANT OUTSIDE.

OKAY.

AND THEN LUCAS BUILDERS WAS THE ONLY BIDDER.

DO WE HAVE A CONCERN THAT WE ONLY RECEIVED ONE BID FOR THIS PROJECT? SO YES, WE ONLY RECEIVED ONE BID, BUT IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THE PROJECT WAS IN ADEQUATELY, UH, ADVERTISED, GIVEN THAT WE DID PROVIDE NOTIFICATION TO HUNDRED 74 POTENTIAL BIDDERS.

AND ADDITIONALLY, BECAUSE OF THIS NATURE OF THIS PROJECT INVOLVING LIFT REHABILITATION AND BOARD OF A CERTAIN SEGMENT OF THE FORCE MAIN, THIS DOES REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF ELIGIBLE BIDDERS FOR THIS PROJECT.

SO THAT, THAT COULD BE ONE OF THE, I LET ANATO, AND THEN MY FINAL QUESTION, I'LL LET THE GENERAL MANAGER ANSWER.

DO WE HAVE THE CAPACITY IN HOUSE TO MANAGE THESE TYPE OF PROJECTS SO THAT WE WOULDN'T NEED TO HIRE A OUTSIDE COMPANY TO WATCH THE OUTSIDE COMPANY WE HIRED TO DO THE WORK? AS IN TERMS OF THE RESOURCES, RIGHT NOW, WE ARE IN-HOUSE, IN-HOUSE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT TEAM HAVE ALREADY, UH, HAVE MULTIPLE PROJECTS THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY MANAGING.

BUT ADDITIONALLY, BECAUSE THIS PROJECT IS MORE OF A FACILITY RELATED, WHICH OUR IN-HOUSE TEAM DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE RELEVANT EXPERIENCE IN MANAGING THESE PROJECTS AND BE, AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, THE MAGNITUDE OF THIS PROJECT GIVEN AT THREE LOCATION WITH A, UH, YOU KNOW, EXPEDITED SCHEDULE THAT WE NEED TO COMPLETE WITHIN TIME, WE WANTED TO OUTSOURCE TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL RESOURCES THAT COULD BE PROVIDED FROM A, UH, OUTSIDE CONSULTANT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SO THOMAS, SO COMMISSIONER GAN ON, ON THE ASPECT OF BIDDING THE, THERE'S MULTIPLE THINGS AND, AND PERHAPS IT, IT MERITS A DISCUSSION AT COMMITTEE.

THERE'S MULTIPLE THINGS THAT CAN AFFECT, UH, A CONTRACTOR'S DESIRE TO PUT IN A BID.

ONE IS THEIR SENSE OF THE COMPLEXITY OF THE WORK, THE AVAILABLE OF THE SKILL SETS THAT THEY HAVE OR CAN ACCESS QUICKLY TO PROPERLY ESTIMATED JOB AND TURN INTO BID.

MANY TIMES, UM, IT'S THE AVAILABILITY OF EQUIPMENT, THE AVAILABILITY OF EQUIPMENT IN THE ZONE HAPPENS TO BE CONSTRAINING.

SOMETIMES WE'VE HEARD THIS FROM CONTRACTORS, THEY SAY, I'M SORRY, I JUST DON'T HAVE ANY EQUIPMENT AVAILABLE AT THE TIME TO THINK THAT I COULD COMPETITIVELY BID THIS JOB AND MAKE IT AVAILABLE SO THEREFORE I CAN DO THE WORK.

BUT I DECIDED NOT TO SUBMIT A BID, SUFFICE IT TO SAY THAT THERE'S ANY NUMBER OF THINGS AND, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO DISCUSS THEM AT COMMITTEE.

I I THINK IT MERITS HAVING THAT BACKGROUND AND INFORMATION BECAUSE YOU'RE CORRECT, ABSENT ANY DISCUSSION LIKE THAT, YOU SEE THESE BIDS COME IN, WHY ONLY TWO CONTRACTORS? WHY ONE, WHY SIX? IT, IT MERITS DISCUSSION.

AND THEN I WAS GONNA DEFER TO THOMAS IF YOU WANTED TO COMMENT.

JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE CLARIFICATION WITH REGARDS TO THE QUESTION ON SPECIFICATIONS, THERE ARE, THERE ARE TWO COMPONENTS TO THE SPECIFICATION OR THE BID DOCUMENTS.

UH, THE CON THE CONTRACTUAL PART WHERE THE FRONT END DOCUMENTS THAT WE WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO PUT TOGETHER ENGINEERING TEAM WORKS WITH, WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO, TO PUT THAT TOGETHER.

BUT THE TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION COMPONENT OF IT, WHERE WE SPECIFY MOTORS, PIPE SIZES, AND OTHER TECHNICAL COMPONENTS, WE RELY ON OUR CONSULTANTS AND WE REVIEW THEIR, UH, DOCUMENTATION.

THE SECOND PART THAT I WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME CLARIFICATION WITH REGARDS TO YOUR QUESTION, DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT IN HOUSE? GIVEN THAT THESE ARE THREE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, UH, SOMEWHAT FAST FACED PROJECTS, IT WOULD BE BETTER SUITED IF WE HAVE SOMEONE ASSIGNED TO IT FROM AN INSPECTION AND CONSTRUCTION STANDPOINT.

AND THAT'S WHY WE, UH, OUTSOURCE THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT PART OF THIS, THIS, UH, PROJECT.

JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE THOSE TWO .

I TOTALLY SUPPORT THE PROJECT.

I JUST WANTED TO ASK ABOUT IT.

I, AND, AND I ECHO COMMISSIONER AUSTIN'S COMMENTS.

IT WAS NICE TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND SEE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND TOTALLY AGREE.

IT, IT NEEDS TO BE UPGRADED.

I JUST WAS WONDERING IF CITY STAFF, AS WE LOOK FOR AT THESE PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE, FUTURE, WE COULD HAVE OPPORTUNITIES HERE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? SO IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A 2028 KIND OF GOAL SET, WOULD THERE'D BE MORE TIME TO, TO KIND OF VET OUT CONTRACTORS OR TO DO A RFP? THIS IS A MORE LONG TERM PROJECT IN TERMS OF PLANNING.

THOMAS, I I WAS GOING, OH, LEILA, GO.

OH, YOU, SHE COULD ANSWER HER MORE THAN CAPABLE THAN I'M HUNDRED PERCENT.

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UM, THE DURATION FOR CONSTRUCTION, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S FAST PACED OR NOT, WE HAVE, WE HAVE SPECIFIC MINIMUM TIMELINES, PUBLIC CONTRACT CODE IN WHICH WE HAVE TO ADVERTISE THESE PROJECTS OR PUBLICLY BID THEM.

SO, UH, WHETHER THE OLYMPICS IS IN PLACE OR NOT, WE STILL HAVE TO CONSIDER THE TEAM THE TIME DURATION TO ALLOW, UH, COMPETITIVE BIDDING.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, GOOD.

UH, OH, SO WE'RE AT THE VOTE.

UH, SO WE'VE A MOTION IN SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ITEMS NUMBER SIX AND SEVEN, SAY A I? ANY OPPOSED? NONE OPPOSED.

THANK YOU.

UH, MOVING ON, LELA, DON'T GO ANYWHERE.

UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, ADOPT,

[8. 26-56145 Recommendation to adopt Request for Proposal (RFP) for Engineering Services for the Groundwater Resilience Program (GRP) Feasibility Study Project (EO-3791), and award a contract to Jacobs Engineering Group, Inc., of Dallas, Texas, in a total amount not to exceed $938,294.00 for a period of two years; and authorize the General Manager to execute all documents necessary to enter into the contract, including any amendments.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

UH, REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR THE GROUNDWATER RESILIENCE PROGRAM, GRP FEASIBILITY STUDY, PROJECT EEO 3 7 9 1.

AN AWARD OF CONTRACT TO JACOBS ENGINEERING GROUP OF DALLAS, TEXAS.

MAY I PLEASE HAVE A MOTION APPROVE? THANK YOU.

AND A SECOND.

SECOND.

THANK YOU.

AND, UH, LELA STEVENS BACK ON DECK.

HELLO EVERYONE.

IT'S ME AGAIN.

AND THIS IS FOR THE GROUNDWATER RESILIENCE PROGRAM OR THE GRP FEASIBILITY STUDY.

BEFORE DIVING INTO THE GRP, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT OUR EXISTING WATER SYSTEM.

CURRENTLY, LONG BEACH UTILITY SERVICES, APPROXIMATELY 500,000 RESIDENTS AND HAS APPROXIMATELY 90,000 ACTIVE POTABLE WATER SERVICE CONNECTIONS.

OUR SYSTEM CONSISTS OF TWO MAIN DISTRIBUTION ZONES, WITH ONE BEING THE BLENDED ZONE RIGHT HERE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE LONG BEACH MAJORITY, EAST SIDE OF THE LONG BEACH.

THIS UTILIZES THE LOCAL GROUNDWATER SUPPLY AND THE IMPORTED WATER FROM NWD ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE LONG BEACH SOLELY RELIES ON THE IMPORTED WATER, IMPORTED WATER FROM NWD.

SO IN 2019, THE DEPARTMENT DEVELOPED ITS LONG-TERM WATER RESOURCES PLAN WITH THE GOAL OF INCREASING THE LOCAL WATER SUPPLY SOURCE AND DECREASE THE DEPENDENT, REDUCE THE DEPENDENCE ON IMPORTED WATER.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE COME FROM, FROM A LONG WAY FROM THE PAST, AND WE STILL WANT TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP, KEEP ON GROWING OUR LOCAL GROUNDWATER SUPPLY TO THE TOMORROW SCHOOL.

AND I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT THIS FIGURE WILL BE, IS FROM THE 2019 WATER RESOURCES PLANT AND DEAN WILL BE PREVENT, UH, PRO PROVIDING AN UPDATED MORE OF AN UPDATED NUMBER ON HIS LATER ON PRESENTATION.

SO THE EXISTING WATER SYSTEM, AS YOU RECALL ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, PRESENTS CONSTRAINTS ON US FROM INCREASING OUR LOCAL GROUND WATER SUPPLY BECAUSE THE WEST SIDE OF THE LONG BEACH SOLELY RELIES ON THE IMPORT WATER.

SO HOW, HOW WILL WE GET TO THE GOAL OF INCREASING OUR TWO, GET TO OUR TOMORROW'S GOAL? SO THIS IS WHY THE NEED WE, WE HAVE THE NEED FOR THE GRP.

SO THE GRP IS GOING TO HELP US TO ENHANCE THE LONG-TERM RESILIENCY AND PROVIDE THE REDUNDANCY AND OPTIMIZE THE LOCAL GROUNDWATER SUPPLY WHILE NAVIGATING THE ENVIRONMENTAL UNCERTAINTY AND COMPLEXITY FROM THE 2019 WATER RESOURCES PLAN.

WE HAVE COMPLETED THE OPTIMIZATION STUDY, WHICH IS THE PLANNING LEVEL DOCUMENT THAT EVALUATES OF OPTIMIZING THE WATER SYSTEM AND CURRENT OPERATIONAL PROCEDURES TO MAKE NECESSARY IMPROVEMENTS TO ACCOMMODATE THE SHIFT IN FUTURE WATER SUPPLY.

AND NOW WE'RE HEADING INTO THE FEASIBILITY STUDY COMPONENT OF THE GRP, WHICH I WILL GO, GO INTO, GO, GO INTO THIS IN THE NEXT SLIDE.

ANOTHER AVENUE OF APPROACH THE DEPARTMENT IS TAKING IS THE AUGMENTATION STUDY, WHICH IS STILL IN PROGRESS, AND THAT LEADS TO THE EVENTUAL PHASES OF THE RECYCLED GROUNDWATER RECHARGE PROGRAM.

THE COMPLETION OF THIS AUGMENTATION STUDY IS REALLY GOING TO HELP US UNDERSTANDING THE POTENTIAL WELL SITES FOR THE PRODUCTION WELLS THAT WE CAN UTILIZE AND IMPLEMENT INTO THE GRP AND THE ANTICIPATE COMPLETION.

TIME OF THE AUGMENTATION STUDY IS NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR.

SO LOOKING TO THE GRP THAT BUILDS UPON THE, OUR EXISTING SYSTEM WITH THE ADDITIONAL IMPLEMENTATION OF A NEW TREATMENT PLAN THAT WILL BE LOCATED AT THE JOHNSON TANK FARM.

THIS TREATMENT PLAN IS ASSUMED TO BE TIM MGD, WHICH IS MEETING THE CURRENT D ZONE.

AND THE SECOND COMPONENT IS THE WEST EXPANSION LINE THAT SHOWS IN ORANGE.

THIS 16,000 LINEAR FEET OF 24 INCH PIPELINE WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY FOR PRODUCTION WELLS WITHIN THE WEST COAST BASIN.

AND THE THIRD COMPONENT IS THE CAPACITY ENHANCEMENT LINE SHOWING MAGENTA COLOR.

THIS 12,000, 12,500 LINEAR FEET OF 30 INCH PIPELINE

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WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR PRODUCTION WELLS AND CONNECT OUR EXISTING COLLECTION SYSTEMS, EASTERN AND WESTERN LAKE WITHIN THE CENTRAL BASIN.

AND THE LAST BUT NOT LEAST, IS THE SYSTEM UNIFICATION LINES.

THIS 17,000 MILLION FEET OF 30 INCH PIPELINE SHOWING GRAIN WERE WILL CONNECT THE GROUNDWATER SYSTEM FROM BOTH BASINS TO THE NEW TREATMENT PLAN.

SO THE GRP CONSISTS OF ALL THESE COMPONENTS FOR US TO PROVIDE COMPLETE SYSTEM REDUNDANCY AND RESILIENCE IN THE CITIES IN THE ENTIRE SERVICE AREA OF LONG BEACH.

THIS ALSO ADDS ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY TO THE SYSTEM, LET'S SAY, WHEN ONE TREATMENT PLAN IS OFFLINE FOR MAINTENANCE.

SO BECAUSE OF THE MAGNITUDE AND SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS PROGRAM, WE REALLY WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE, SCHEDULE, AND COSTS UNDER AS PART OF THIS FEASIBILITY STUDY.

WITH THAT, THE CONSULTANT WILL PROVIDE, PERFORM, WILL CONDUCT A COMPREHENSIVE DATA REVIEW AND IDENTIFY ANY DATA GAPS.

THE CONSULTANT WILL ALSO EVALUATE THE CURRENT WATER SYSTEM AND IDENTIFY ANY CONSTRAINTS IN THE EXISTING AND FUTURE WATER SYSTEM, SPECIFICALLY LOOKING TO THE HYDRAULIC FEASIBILITY, PIPE ROUTING AND SELECTION, UH, SYSTEM PUMPING AND OPERATION AND OPERATING ANALYSIS, CONSTRUCTABILITY REVIEW, AND OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL AND REGULATORY ASSESSMENT.

ADDITIONALLY, THE CONSULTANT WILL ALSO LOOK INTO THE PROCESS CONFIGURATION AND C SITE AVAILABILITY AT THE JOHNSON TANK FARM SITE FOR THE NEW TREATMENT PLAN.

THIS WE'RE ALSO LOOKING TO THE POTENTIAL UPSIZING OF MAYBE NOT LIMITING TO ONLY THE TAM MD, BUT TO ADDITIONAL, UH, LARGER CAPACITY FOR THE NEW TREATMENT PLAN.

SO WITH THE FINDING FROM THE GROUNDWATER AUGMENTATION STUDY, THE CONSULTANT WILL BE ABLE TO ANALYZE THE, UH, WATER QUALITY AND PERFORM BENCH SCALE TESTING AND DEVELOP VIABLE TREATMENT OPTION FOR THE NEW TREATMENT PLAN.

IN THE EVENT, IF THIS PROGRAM IS DEEMED INFEASIBLE, THE CONSULTANT WILL PROVIDE VARIOUS OPTIONS FOR THE CO COURT, VARIOUS ANALYSIS FOR THE ALTERNATIVE COURSES OR ACTIONS FOR US TO, TO ASSIST US WITH DECISION MAKING OR IF, IF THE EARLIER IDENTIFIED COMPONENTS WERE DEEMED UNFEASIBLE INFEASIBLE AS FOR THE PERMITTING SENSITIVITY, PERMITTING COMPLEXITY, SCHEDULE RISK, AND REGULATORY UNCERTAINTY.

AND TWO, REALLY LOOKING TO THE SCHEDULE NOW, HOW WE CAN OPTIMIZE THIS, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE GRP, WE WERE LOOKING TO THE VARIOUS PHASING APPROACH AND LOOKING, ALSO LOOKING INTO ALTERNATIVE PROJECT DELIVERY METHODS SUCH AS THE TRADITIONAL DESIGN BID BUILD OR THE PROGRESSIVE DESIGN BUILD APPROACH.

AND LASTLY, TO REALLY TIE EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND MORE SO LOOKING INTO THE COST COMPONENT, THE CONSULTANT WILL DEVELOP COST SCHEDULE, AND CASH FLOW PROJECTION DATA TO IDENTIFY DECISION POINTS AND TRADE-OFFS ASSOCIATED WITH SCHEDULE RISK, FLEXIBILITY, AND GOVERNANCE CONSIDERATION.

AND BECAUSE THIS IS A LARGE PROGRAM, WE ALSO WANT TO CONSIDER THE FUNDING SOURCE.

THIS WOULD CREATE, UH, THIS WILL INCLUDE DEVELOPING FUNDING STRATEGY AND IDENTIFY A RANGE OF FUNDING AND FINANCING SOURCES SUCH AS THE FEDERAL OR STATE LOAN AND GRANT FUNDING.

SO WITH ALL THESE PROJECT ELEMENTS, WE HOPE TO DEVELOP A MORE OF A COMPREHENSIVE ROADMAP FOR THE GRP IMPLEMENTATION THAT WILL HELP US TO ENHANCE THE CITY'S WATER SUPPLIES RELIABILITY, AND INCREASE THE OPERATIONAL FLEXIBILITY WITH THAT.

FOR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, UM, ON JUNE 12TH, A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL WAS DISTRIBUTED TO PROVIDE ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR THIS PROJECT, 69 POTENTIAL FIRMS WERE NOTIFIED AND NINE PROSPECTIVE BIDDERS DOWNLOAD THE BID DOCUMENT.

ON JULY 22ND, WE, WE RECEIVED FIVE PROPOSALS AND JACOB'S ENGINEERING GROUP, INC.

WAS SELECTED BASED ON STAFF'S EVALUATION AND RECOMMENDATION.

JACOB'S PROPOSAL DEMONSTRATED PROJECT UNDERSTANDING AND A COMPREHENSIVE PROJECT APPROACH AND THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH SIMILAR PROJECTS.

ALSO A REASONABLENESS OF THE FEES.

WITH THIS INFORMATION, WE RECOMMEND THE BOARD TO AUTHORIZE THE GENERAL MANAGER TO ADOPT REQUESTS FOR PROPOSAL FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR THE GROUNDWATER RESILIENCE PROGRAM, FEASIBILITY STUDY AND AWARD A CONTRACT TO JACOBS ENGINEERING GROUP, INC.

OF DALLAS, TEXAS IN A TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 938,209,

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UH, $294 FOR A PERIOD OF TWO YEARS, AND AUTHORIZE THE GENERAL MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO ENTER INTO THE CONTRACT, INCLUDING ANY AMENDMENTS.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU, LEELA.

UH, ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? ANY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? THANK YOU.

THIS, THIS IS FANTASTIC.

I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THIS COME FORWARD AND GOING FORWARD.

IF YOU COULD GO TO A SLIDE, I THINK IT'S SIX THAT SHOWS THE PROJECT ELEMENTS.

IT IS THIS, THIS GONNA GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY MAYBE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WATER QUALITY AND TREATMENT PROCESS, WILL THEY CONSIDER, DO WE NEED LIKE A-P-F-A-S TREATMENT AT THAT FACILITY? UM, LOOKING FORWARD TO MAYBE TREATING OTHER PEOPLE'S WATER AS A SOURCE OF MAYBE REVENUE OR BRINGING IN ADDITIONAL WATER TO TREAT.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THIS WILL LOOK AT TOO? YEAH, THIS WILL LOOK AT ALL THE COMPONENTS AND THE ELEMENTS, INCLUDING THE, UH, UNEXPECTED REGULATORY CHANGE THAT WE WILL BE ANTICIPATING IN THE NEAR FUTURE CHANGE, FUTURE, UH, REGULATORY CHANGE.

I THINK THE TIMING OF THIS IS GREAT.

I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS COMING FORWARD AND, AND I THINK BY LOOKING AT THIS AND KIND OF PLANNING AHEAD, WE CAN, WE CAN REALLY MAKE THAT REDUNDANCY, I THINK IS, IS REALLY A GOOD IDEA.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, THIS IS GREAT.

I ECHO YOUR COMMENTS ON THAT.

UM, ONE QUESTION.

THE, THE, THE CAPACITY ENHANCEMENT LINE, THE RED LINE ON SLIDE FIVE, IT'S UP NEAR, UM, THE BORDER OF LONG BEACH AND LAKEWOOD AND EAST, UPPER EAST SIDE.

DOES THAT GIVE US THE ABILITY, OR IS IT PART OF OUR PLAN TO MAYBE PROVIDE MORE WATER FOR LAKEWOOD NOT TO PROVIDE MORE WATER FOR LAKEWOOD OUTRIGHT? THE, THE MORE THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN THE VICINITY OF THE BOUNDARIES OF OUR NEIGHBORS, THEN GIVEN THE SITUATION IN SOUTHEAST LOS ANGELES COUNTY, IT JUST REPRESENTS OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT WHOLE.

YEAH, SO SIMILAR TO THE COMMENTS THAT COMMISSIONER PARK JUST MADE AS WELL, ONCE YOU PUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THERE, THE QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU LEVERAGE IT AND USE AND USE IT? AND THAT'S ONE OF THE CRITICAL PIECES TO IT.

THIS PROVIDES THAT FLEXIBILITY.

SO MAYBE NOT LAKEWOOD, WE DO A LITTLE BIT WITH LAKEWOOD NOW, BUT YEAH.

RIGHT, RIGHT NOW LAKEWOOD'S NEEDS, IT'S ACTUALLY LAKEWOOD'S NEEDS CURRENTLY ARE COMPLETELY MET BY LOCAL GROUNDWATER.

IN FACT, THEY HAVE EXCESS RIGHTS.

SO IT MAY NOT BE PROVIDING WATER LAKEWOOD.

UM, IT MAY BE THE OPPOSITE.

I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE I DON'T GET RECORDED .

SO THAT'S, THAT'S CURRENTLY THE DISCUSSIONS.

OKAY.

MY SECOND QUESTION IS, UH, PURE WATER, IF WE WERE TO DO SOME SORT OF CONNECTION TO PURE WATER, I KNOW IT'S UP IN THE AIR, BUT WHERE DOES THAT FIT IN? DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THE, THE GROUND AUGMENTATION STUDY AND HOW THAT RELATES FOR THE PURE WATER? THAT'S GONNA REALLY HELP US WITH THE INJECTION WELL PROGRAM THAT WE ARE ALSO WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH MWD ON IDENTIFYING SITES FOR THE INJECTION WELL, AND THAT, THAT'S PART OF THE AUGMENTATION STUDY.

IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH, RIGHT HERE.

SO, SO THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE STUDIES, MR. CORDIER.

SO WE GOT THE OPTIMIZATION STUDY THAT WAS DONE.

THEN THAT LEADS TO THE GRP.

THERE'S SEPARATE ANALYSES GOING ON UNDER AN AUGMENTATION STUDY THAT IS, THAT CAPTURES THE COMPONENTS OF PURE WATER.

AND DEAN, YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE STUDIES THAT LEELA SPEAKING TO IS REALLY HOW DO WE, UH, CONSTRUCT THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR WHAT WE NEED TO DELIVER THE WATER.

UH, PURE WATER WOULD BE THE SUPPLY.

AND SO THAT'S REALLY WATER RESOURCES PIECE OF IT.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE PRESENTATION ON THAT, UM, RIGHT TOWARDS THE END OF THE AGENDA.

BUT PURE WATER FITS IN AS FAR AS THIS IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO DELIVER THE WATER, BUT WE NEED A SUPPLY OF THE RIGHTS ESSENTIALLY TO, TO PUMP WATER OUTTA THE GROUND.

AND THAT'S THE PURE WATER IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA PUT INTO THE GROUND TO BE ABLE TO GIVE US THE RIGHTS TO PUMP IT OUT.

GREAT, THANK YOU.

GREAT.

AND THEN MY THIRD QUESTION IS REGARDING THE JW J TREATMENT PLANT PROPOSAL.

UM, CURRENTLY THAT GOLD LINE THAT GOES UP, DOES THAT MEAN IF WE HAVE A NEW TREATMENT PLANT, DOES THAT GOLD LINE DOESN'T GO AWAY? THAT GOLD CONNECTION SEE RIGHT THERE.

SO FOR THIS OPTIM UH, THIS COMPONENT RIGHT NOW, THE ALIGNMENT OF THE WEST BASIN EXPANSION LINE, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? YES, YES.

IS IDENTIFIED FROM OUR OPTIMIZATION STUDY, UM, CONCURRENTLY RIGHT NOW WITH THE AUGMENTATION STUDY, THAT STUDY WILL ALSO HELP US TO REALLY FURTHER FINE TUNE THE LOCATION, THE POTENTIAL SITES FOR THE PRODUCTION WELLS.

SO THE ALIGNMENT MAY CHANGE BASED OFF THE FINDING FROM THE AUGMENTATION STUDY, AND THIS ALIGNMENT MAY NOT BE AS EXACTLY AS SHOWN, AND SO IT MAY BE SUBJECTED TO CHANGE FOR THAT ONE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO STRATEGICALLY THOUGH,

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IF, IF I UNDERSTAND NATURE OF YOUR QUESTION, THIS, THIS ALIGNMENT THAT'S ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE CITY AND HAS A NORTH SOUTH ORIENTATION POINTING TO THE TREATMENT PLANT, STRUCTURALLY THAT DOESN'T GO AWAY.

ACTUALLY, WE'RE COUNTING ON THAT SO THAT AS WE DEVELOP MORE WELLS, WHETHER IT'S PURE WATER, SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, WHATEVER, WE HAVE THIS ACCESS THAT ALLOWS US TO THEN DELIVER THOSE SUPPLIES TO THE TREATMENT PLANT.

SO IT, IT SERVES TO ENHANCE THE TREATMENT PLANT.

IT, IT DOESN'T EVER REALLY GO AWAY IN TERMS OF NEED.

GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU.

OTHER COMMENTS? STILL GOOD? UH, THANK YOU.

THIS IS, THIS IS EXCITING.

UH, IT'S, IT'S BEEN YEARS IN THE MAKING A**L THIS CONCEPT.

YEAH.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, STAFF HAS BEEN UNDERTAKING THIS COMPREHENSIVE EFFORT NOW OVER SEVERAL YEARS TO SHAPE IT.

IT'S ONE THING TO SAY, YOU KNOW, FROM THE MAP THAT LEILA SHOWED YOU, IT'S ONE THING TO EXPRESS A NEED AND UNDERSTAND THE CRITICAL NEED.

IT'S ANOTHER THING TO UNDERSTAND THE COMPLEXITY OF WHAT IT TAKES FROM BEGINNING TO END TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

AND THAT'S A TESTAMENT TO OUR STAFF, RIGHT? OUR STAFF HAS BEEN DILIGENTLY PUTTING THIS ALL TOGETHER, AND YOU'RE SEEING THE RESULTS OF IT NOW.

THANK YOU.

AND, AND THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING IT IN A WAY THAT IS, UH, DIGESTIBLE NOT ONLY TO THE BOARD, BUT TO THE, TO THE PUBLIC.

UM, THIS IS, THIS IS A BIG DEAL.

UM, I APPRECIATE THE, THE, UH, ENGAGEMENT THAT, THAT OUR BOARD HAS WITH, WITH THIS, THE, THE INTELLIGENT QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD IS ASKING.

UH, I I HIGHLY DOUBT THAT ANYONE ON THIS BOARD IS, IS QUESTIONING, UH, THE NEED, UH, AND, AND THE DESIRED OUTCOME FOR THIS.

SO THIS IS FANTASTIC.

THIS IS OVER THE HORIZON FUTURE STUFF THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA OUTLIVE PROBABLY ALL OF US.

SO GOOD WORK EVERYONE ON THIS.

THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

I DID HAVE ONE FINAL QUESTION.

UM, JUST RELATED TO, I GUESS, ACCOUNTABILITY.

WHEN DOES THIS COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION? WILL IT BE TWO YEARS OR COULD THERE BE LIKE A PROGRESS UPDATE IN BETWEEN? SO THIS IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE CAN PREVENT, UH, PROVIDE A WORKSHOP FORMAT MAYBE THROUGH THE COMMITTEE OR SOMETHING WITH PROVIDING, UH, MORE OF A REGULAR UPDATE ON OUR FINDINGS AND THE DIRECTION THAT WHERE THIS FEASIBILITY STUDY IS GOING.

THAT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

THANKS.

PERFECT.

UH, AND THE COMMITTEE STRUCTURE IS A PERFECT ENVIRONMENT FOR THAT, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UH, I BELIEVE NO MORE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.

ALL RIGHT.

SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF, UH, THE R FP SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? NONE OPPOSED.

THANK YOU.

UH, LELA, DON'T GO ANYWHERE.

UH, MOVING ON ITEMS NUMBER NINE AND 10,

[9. 26-56146 Recommendation to grant the request of US Builders and Consultants, Inc., pursuant to Public Contract Code Section 5101, to be relieved of their bid as set forth in their letter dated September 4, 2026, requesting withdrawal of their bid due to clerical errors. Recommendation to adopt Specifications WD-07-26 and award a contract to Mike Prlich and Sons, Inc., of Baldwin Park, California, for the Rancho Los Alamitos Transmission Main Abandonment Project (MC-5264), in a total amount not to exceed $1,167,700.00; and authorize the General Manager to execute all documents necessary to enter into the contract, including any amendments.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

[10. 26-56147 Recommendation to adopt Request for Proposal (RFP) to provide Construction Management Services for the Rancho Los Alamitos Transmission Main Abandonment Project (MC-5264), and award a contract to Lee and Ro, Inc., of City of Industry, California, in a total amount not to exceed $164,364.00, for a period of one year; and authorize the General Manager to execute all documents necessary to enter into the contract, including any amendments.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation.  ]

UH, LILA'S GOT ONE PRESENTATION FOR US, UH, AND WE'LL VOTE, VOTE ON BOTH ITEMS TOGETHER.

SO ITEM NUMBER NINE, GRANT THE REQUEST FOR US BUILDERS AND CONSULTANTS PURSUANT TO PUBLIC CONTRACT CODE SECTION 5 1 0 1 TO BE RELIEVED OF THEIR BID AS SET FORTH IN THEIR LETTER DATED, UH, SEPTEMBER 4TH, 2026, REQUESTING WITHDRAWAL OF THEIR BID DUE TO CLERICAL ERRORS.

ADOPT SPECIFICATIONS WD 7 26 AND AWARD A CONTRACT TO MIKE PRI AND SONS OF BALDWIN CA, BALDWIN PARK, CALIFORNIA FOR RANCHO LOS ALAMITOS TRANSMISSION, MAINE ABANDONMENT PROJECT MC 5 2 6 4.

AND I'M NUMBER 10, RFP TO PROVIDE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR THE RANCHO LOS ALAMITOS TRANSMISSION MAIN ABANDONMENT PROJECT MC 5 2 6 4 AND AWARD OF CONTRACT TO LEE AND ROW INC.

OF CITY OF INDUSTRY CALIFORNIA.

MAY I PLEASE HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO THANK YOU.

AND A SECOND THANK YOU.

AND LEILA, GLAD YOU GUYS ARE NOT TIRED OF ME YET.

UM, FOR THIS TODAY FOR THE ITEM NUMBER NINE 10 FOR THE RENTAL TRANSMISSION ABANDONMENT PROJECT IN FEBRUARY, 2025, UH, EMERGENCY TRANSMISSION, MEAN BREAK OCCURRED ON THE EXISTING 24 INCH STEEL CYLINDER CONCRETE PIPE WITHIN THE BIXBY HILLS COMMUNITY.

BIXBY HILLS COMMUNITY IS ARRIVED TO THE EAST OF CAL STATE LONG BEACH, GO BEACH, AND TO THE NORTH OF FREEWAY 22.

IN RESPONSE TO THE BREAK, SORRY.

UH, THE, THE PIPELINE WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1966 WAS BETWEEN THE RANCHO, UH, HIS HISTORIC WRENCH AND GARDEN TO THE RIGHT AND THE RESIDENTIAL AREA TO THE LEFT, UH, HILLSIDE ALONG WITHIN THE NARROW EASEMENT.

THE PIPELINE WHERE THE BRAKE OCCURRED WAS RELATIVELY DEEP WITH A APPROXIMATELY DEPTH OF 10 FEET.

AS SHOWN IN THIS IMAGE RIGHT HERE IN RESPONSE TO THE EMERGENCY BRAKE, THE DESIGN CONSULTANT HDR PERFORMED PIPE FAILURE ANALYSIS IN APRIL, 2025.

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AND FROM THE REPORT THERE WERE INDICATION OF ACTIVE CORROSION WITH NOTICEABLE PIPE, WITH NOTICEABLE WALL LOCKS HITTING AND RUST STAINS IN THE VARIOUS AREA OF PIPE, FAILED PIPE SEGMENTS.

AND THERE WERE NO EVIDENCE OF DESIGN DEFICIENCIES.

AND FROM THE REPORT, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO INSTALL CATHARTIC PROTECTION AND ABANDONMENT OR REPLACEMENT OF THE EXISTING PIPELINE.

SO DURING THE DESIGN, THE DESIGN CONSULTANT AT CON REALIS WAS ABLE TO PERFORM HYDRAULIC ASSESSMENT TO EVALUATE THE FEASIBILITY OF ABANDONING, ABANDONING THIS TRANSMISSION MAIN.

FROM THE RESULT, THERE WERE INDICATION OF THE ABANDONMENT IS HYDRAULIC HYDRAULICALLY FEASIBLE UNDER BOTH MAX STATE AND FAR FAR FLOW DEMAND CONDITION.

SO THE PROPOSED ABANDONMENT WILL BE APPROXIMATELY, APPROXIMATELY 2050 LINEAR FEET SHOWING THE LINE IN RED WITH THE BIG SPEED TERRACE, A BIG SPEED HILLS ROAD TO THE NORTH, AND BIG SPEED TERRACE DRIVE TO THE SOUTH, WHICH IS JUST TO THE NORTH OF SEVENTH STREET.

THIS WORK, THIS ABANDONED MOON WORK, WILL INCLUDE DEWATERING OF THE INTERIOR OF THE PIPE, REMOVE ABANDONED AND SALVAGE, AND DISPOSE ALL THE PIPE.

ALL THE EXISTING APPRENTICES SUCH AS VALVES, BLOW OFF AND ACCESS MINERALS, FILL THE ABANDONED PIPE WITH THE SLOW CONTROLLED LOW STRENGTH MATERIAL AND SEAL ALL ENDS WITH THE WATERTIGHT GAPS.

GAPS OR THE BLIND F FLANGES.

AS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION IMPACT, THERE WILL BE NO ANTICIPATED IMPACTS TO THE WATER SERVICES, HOWEVER, THERE WILL BE SOME IMPACT TO THE TRAFFIC TRAFFIC.

SO THE CONTRACTOR WILL BE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW THE APPROVED TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN AND SEQUENCE TO MITIGATE THE IMPACT TO BOTH THE RESIDENTS AND THE BUSINESS OPERATION.

AT THE HISTORIC W RANCH AND GARDEN, THE CONSTRUCTION WORK IS ANTICIPATED TO BE 90 DAYS, GIVEN THAT IT'S ONLY LIMITED TO THE PIPELINE ABANDONMENT.

AND SO WITH THAT, FOR I AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE, THIS IS GONNA BE A LONG ONE.

UM, ON AUGUST 6TH, A NOTICE OF INVITING BID WAS DISTRIBUTED FOR THIS PROJECT.

184 FIRMS WERE NOTIFIED.

AND 18 PERSPECTIVE BIDDERS DOWNLOAD THE BID.

ON AUGUST 31ST, WE RECEIVED FOUR BIDS AND US BUILDERS AND CONSULTANT INC.

WAS THE LOWEST BIDDER.

HOWEVER, ON AUGUST 4TH, US BUILDERS AND CONSULTANTS INC.

SUBMITTED A FORMAL LETTER REQUESTING TO WITHDRAW, WITHDRAW THEIR BID DUE TO CLERICAL ERROR IN ACCORDANCE TO THE PUBLIC CONTRACT CODE SECTION 51 0 1 BIDDER MAY BE RELIEVED FROM THE, FROM THEIR BID BY THE CONSENT OF AWARD.

THE AWARDING AUTHORITY, WHICH IS US IN THE BIDDER, CAN ESTABLISH THE FOLLOWING.

ONE, A MISTAKE WAS MADE, TWO, PROVIDE WRITTEN NOTICE WITHIN FIVE WORKING DAYS.

THREE, THE MISTAKE MADE WAS THE MISTAKE MADE THE BID MATERIALLY DIFFERENT THAN HE OR SHE INTENDED TO BE.

AND LASTLY, THE BID WAS MADE IN FILING OUT THE BID AND NOT DUE TO ERRORS IN JUDGMENT OR THE CARELESSNESS OF INSPECTING THE SITE OF WORK OR IN READING THE PLANS OR SPECIFICATIONS.

SO US BUILDERS AND CONSULTANTS, INKS FORMAL LETTER REQUESTS MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR RELIEF UNDER THE PUBLIC CONTRACTING CODE SECTION 51 0 1.

SO IN RESPONSE, THE SECOND LOWEST BIDDER, MIKE, PRIVILEGE AND SONS INC.

WILL BE CONSIDERED FOR THIS PROJECT.

AND WITH THIS, WE RECOMMEND THE BOARD TO AUTHORIZE THE GENERAL MANAGER TO GRANT THE REQUEST.

GRANT THE REQUEST OF US BUILDERS AND CONSULTANTS INC.

PURSUANT TO PUBLIC CONTRACT CODE SECTION 51 0 1, TO BE RELEASED OF THEIR BID AS SET FORTH IN THEIR LETTER DATED SEPTEMBER 4TH, 2026, REQUESTING WITHDRAWAL OF THEIR BID DUE TO CLERICAL ERRORS AND ADOPT SPECIFICATIONS WD 0 7 2 6 AND AWARD A CONTRACT TO MIKE PRIVILEGE AND SONS INC.

OF BALDWIN PARK, CALIFORNIA FOR THE RENTAL LOS S FOR THIS PROJECT IN TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 1 MILLION HUNDRED $64,700 AND AUTHORIZE THE GENERAL MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO ENTER INTO THE CONTRACT, INCLUDING ANY AMENDMENTS.

FOR ITEM FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10 ON AUGUST 6TH, A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL WAS DISTRIBUTED TO THE ON-CALL CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR THIS PROJECT.

AND THERE ARE FIVE QUALIFIED CONSULTANTS UNDER THIS BENCH ON AUGUST 21ST.

THREE PROPOSALS WERE RECEIVED AND LEERO INC.

WAS SELECTED BASED ON STAFF'S EVALUATION AND A RECOMMENDATION.

AND WITH THIS INFORMATION, WE RECOMMEND THE BOARD TO AUTHORIZE THE GENERAL MANAGER TO ADOPT REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL TO PROVIDE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR THIS PROJECT AND THE AWARD CONTRACT TO VRO INC.

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CITY OF INDUSTRY, CALIFORNIA IN A TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $164,364 FOR A PERIOD OF ONE YEAR, AND AUTHORIZE THE GENERAL MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO ENTER INTO THE CONTRACT, INCLUDING ANY AMENDMENTS.

THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I'M OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, LEILA.

ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? ARE THERE ANY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? UM, COUPLE OF QUESTIONS SIMILAR TO THE LAST ONE.

DID, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, THIS IS THE ABANDONMENT OF THE WATERLINE.

DID, DID WE LOOK AT BEFORE WE PUT IT OUT TO BED, WHETHER WE COULD DO THIS WORK IN-HOUSE WITH OUR EXISTING WATER, UH, CREWS? WE, WE TYPICALLY DO MAKE JUDGEMENTS LIKE THAT SPECIFICALLY.

I, I DON'T HAVE A STRAIGHT ANSWER TO YOU.

I DON'T.

THOMAS, DO YOU WANNA COMMENT ON THAT? YES.

SO THE PIPE SIZE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THIS IS A 16 INCH, 24 INCH PIPE.

YOU TYPICALLY, WHEN WE DO ABANDONMENT IN HOUSE, IT'S 12 INCHES OR LESS.

OKAY.

UH, SO THAT DETERMINES THAT THAT'S A KEY FACTOR FOR, OKAY.

AND, AND THEN THE SECOND FOLLOW UP TO THAT IS DO WE HAVE STAFF AVAILABLE OR ARE WE BUILDING UP OUR CAPACITY THAT WE COULD MANAGE THIS ABANDONMENT PROJECT? YES.

SIMILAR PROJECTS WITH SMALLER SIZES, WE DO THEM REGULARLY.

OH, WELL, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE ON A MANAGEMENT OF THE SIZE OF THE PIPE.

YOU MEAN PROBABLY NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 12 AND 24.

IF YOU'RE MANAGING IT, YOU'RE NOT ACTUALLY DOING IT.

OH, SO SORRY, MY APOLOGIES.

I MISUNDERSTOOD YOUR QUESTION.

YES.

WE, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MANAGE THESE TYPE OF PROJECTS IN-HOUSE.

IT'S JUST BASED ON VOLUME.

SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, UH, CONSULT IT OUT, BUT WE DO HAVE THE VALID ABILITY TO MANAGE SUCH PROJECTS INHOUSE.

SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WHEN WE'RE COMING FORWARD WITH THESE CONTRACTS FOR OUTSIDE FOLKS TO DO THIS WORK, WE'RE LOOKING FIRST TO WHETHER WE HAVE EITHER THE CAPACITY OR THE TIME TO DO THEM IN-HOUSE.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T, OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND MOVE IT WITH A CONTRACTOR, BUT IF WE CAN DO IT INTERNALLY, I WOULD THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'D WANNA DO.

CORRECT.

AND IF YOU NOTICED THE PREVIOUS, UH, BOARD ITEM WITH REGARDS TO THE, UH, VALVE REPLACEMENT AND SEWER LINING PROJECTS MM-HMM .

BOTH OF THEM ARE ALL CON THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT ASPECT OF THOSE PROJECTS WERE ALL DONE IN HOUSE.

SOME OF THESE OTHERS, BASED ON VOLUME AND CAPACITY, WE CONSULT OUT.

BUT THE FIRST AND, UH, THE FIRST STEP OF ACTION IS FOR US TO TRY TO DO AS MANY PROJECTS IN HOUSE AS POSSIBLE.

OKAY.

AND THEN MY FINAL QUESTION IS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT PORTION OF THIS, WE SENT A NOTICE TO THOSE, AND I THINK IT'S LATER ON IN THE AGENDA, THE 25 CONTRACTORS THAT ARE ON CALL TO LOOK AT THIS WORK, OR DOES THIS BID GO OUT TO THE WORLD BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THIS PROJECT? I BELIEVE WE DID, WE DO THE ONCALL ONE, UH, SORRY, FOR, FOR THE NEW ONCALL BENCH THAT'LL BE PRESENTED LATER ON.

I CAN'T, I CAN'T HEAR YOU.

I'M SORRY FOR THE, UH, NEW ONCALL BENCH, THAT'LL BE ALSO PART OF TODAY'S PRESENTATION DOES NOT INCLUDE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT SERVICES.

THAT'LL BE A SEPARATE ON-CALL BENCH, BUT THE CURRENT ON-CALL BENCH THAT WE SOLICIT PROPOSALS FROM, WHICH EXPIRES NEXT YEAR, THIS HAS FIVE QUALIFIED CONSULTANTS THAT'S ALREADY INCLUDED IN THIS, THIS ON-CALL BENCH.

SO THIS PROJECT, WE SENT THAT TO THOSE FIVE AND THAT'S WHERE WE WERE SEEING, CORRECT? YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENT? THE THRESHOLD FOR THAT IS ABOUT $200,000.

IF IT IS MORE THAN $200,000 WORTH OF CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT, WE USUALLY DO A FORMAL BID.

UM, AND TO CLARIFY AND TO JUST ADD TO THAT, BECAUSE WE SAY THE WORD BID, SO IT IT'S NOT FOR PUBLIC CONSTRUCTION, THIS IS FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

AM I SAYING THAT RIGHT, THOMAS? THAT IS CORRECT.

YEAH.

SO IT'S NOT A BID FOR, IT'S AN RFP FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND GIVEN THOSE QUALIFICATIONS AND BOUNDARIES THAN WE CHOSE TO GO TO THE BENCH FOR THAT? YES, SIR.

THIS IS A FOLLOW UP ON COMMISSIONER PARKS.

I THINK IT WAS AN EXCELLENT QUESTION, ONE THAT ACTUALLY CROSSED MY MIND WHEN I WAS READING THE, UH, THE REPORT.

UM, SO I MEAN, HYPOTHETICALLY, WHAT WOULD IT COST US TO DO SUCH A PROJECT IN, IN HOUSE USING OUR, OUR OWN LABOR? UM, WOULD IT, WOULD IT BE LESS THAN OR MORE THAN 1.1? UH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT WOULD BE A LOT LESS.

UM, BUT WE DO MANAGE A PORTFOLIO OF ABOUT 180 PROJECTS.

UM, SO A GOOD PORTION OF THAT, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, WE TRY TO MANAGE IN-HOUSE WHEN IT COMES TO CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT.

BUT WE DO NEED OUTSIDE HELP AND WE NEED TO AUGMENT STAFF FROM,

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WE NEED TO AUGMENT FROM TIME TO TIME FOR THESE TYPE OF SERVICES.

UH, GIVEN THE SIZE AND THE COMPLEXITY OF, UH, SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE MANAGE, UH, WE SEEK OUTSIDE, UH, HELP FROM TIME TO TIME, BUT IT'S MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE SHEER VOLUME OF PROJECTS THAT WE MANAGE.

SO IS IT 50% OF THE COST? IS IT 75% OF THE COST? THE, THE, THE CONTRACT? WHAT DO WE, SO IF IT IS A, IF IT IS LESS, IF IT IS NOT AS COMPLICATED, UM, I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE SAYING ROUGHLY 50% OF THE COST.

THE QUESTION BEING THEN IS YOU TO STAFF APPROPRIATELY AND MANAGE THE LABOR.

IT, THE BOARD KNOWS THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO YOU ABOUT HAVING A CALIBER ENGINEERING TEAM AND THE CALIBER ENGINEERING TEAM, GIVEN THE COMPLEXITY OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE AGENCY, MEANS THAT THAT KIND OF TEAM IS GOING A BALANCE, BALANCE OF WORK THAT HAS TO GO TO CONSULTANTS BECAUSE OF COMPLEXITY OR ONE OTHER ASPECT OF IT.

AND THEN WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY ARISES AND THE BANDWIDTH EXISTS AND THE CAPABILITIES EXIST WITH RETENTION AND INTERNAL STAFFING TO DO SOME OF THE WORK INHOUSE AND THAT EBB THAT CHALLENGE.

I, I WOULD POSE TO YOU THAT BEING THE THIRD LARGEST CITY IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, YOU AS A GOVERNING BOARD ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR A COMPLEX NETWORK OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT HAS A WIDE VARIETY OF SKILL SETS AND REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER TO PROPERLY MAINTAIN IT.

IT IS DISTINCTLY DIFFERENT THAN, LET'S SAY, LAKEWOOD OR DISTINCTLY DIFFERENT THAN THE CITY OF PARAMOUNT OR DISTINCTLY DIFFERENT.

MY HOMETOWN HUNTINGTON BEACH.

THE REQUIREMENTS HERE TO MANAGE FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT IS VASTLY DIFFERENT.

AND SO THEREFORE YOUR QUESTIONS ARE RIGHT ON POINT.

I DON'T DISAGREE.

IT IS STRATEGICALLY A MANAGEMENT CHALLENGE TO TRY TO BALANCE THOSE NEEDS AND HAVE A COMPETENT STAFF OF CAPABILITIES THAT YOU'RE ASKING AND TO MANAGE THAT GOING FORWARD AND KNOWING THAT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU MUST GO OUT TO CONSULTANTS FOR SOME OF THE EFFORTS.

AND I THINK ALL EXCELLENT POINTS, I APPRECIATE THE CANDOR.

UM, AND I DO AGREE THAT IT IS A MANAGEMENT CHALLENGE, AND SO I'M GONNA CHALLENGE MANAGEMENT TO, TO, UH, LOOK AT COST OF PROJECTS IN SOURCE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

UM, AND, AND THINK ABOUT, I WOULD JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, WE, THERE'S THIS WW JD, WHAT WOULD THE RATE PAYERS THINK? RIGHT? UM, SO THINK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

I, I SEE A LOT OF CONTRACTS TODAY.

WE HAVE A VERY BUSY, BUSY AGENDA, PROBABLY CLOSE TO $30 MILLION IN MILLION THAT WILL BE AWARDED, RIGHT? I WANNA BE ABLE TO CONFIDENTLY LOOK AT MY CONSTITUENTS AND FELLOW NEIGHBORS AND SAY, HEY, LISTEN, WE HAVE PINCHED AND, AND BEEN AS THOUGHTFUL AS POSSIBLE WITH YOUR RESOURCES IN TERMS OF OUR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AND OUR OPERATIONS.

SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR, FOR LEADING INTO THAT QUESTION.

COMMISSIONER PARKIN? YES.

AND I, I WANNA THANK YOU COLLECTIVELY THE BOARD AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER PARKIN.

COMMISSIONER AUSTIN, YOUR COMMENTS ARE ON POINT.

WE'RE COMING OFF THIS STRATEGIC PLANNING RETREAT AND THIS IS THE TYPE OF DIRECTION THAT I HOPE FOR AND LOOK FORWARD TO WITH THE BOARD.

SO YOUR COMMENTS ARE EXACTLY ON POINT.

YOU CLARIFIED, I THINK FOR EVERYBODY.

AND I JUST WANNA TELL YOU THE CHALLENGE IS ACCEPTED.

SO WE, WE ARE GONNA MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION AND, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I DO WANNA MAKE A CLOSING COMMENT IF THERE ARE NO MORE COMMISSIONER COMMENTS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I, I THINK THIS IS A DISCUSSION THAT'S NEEDS TO BE HAD AND IT'S, UM, GONNA NEED A DEEPER DIVE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

AND I, I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS AND AGREE, UM, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, AN TOLD, BUT METROPOLITAN WITH THE NUMEROUS EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE IN THE LARGE REGION THAT WE SERVE, WE ALSO GO OUT AND CONTRACT FOR A LOT OF PROJECTS.

CORRECT.

METROPOLITAN ALSO FACES THAT SAME ASPECT OF MANAGING AN ENGINEERING FIRM AND THE, AND THE ENGINEERING CAPABILITY.

I WAS THERE IN MY CAREER.

I WAS A DESIGNER AT METROPOLITAN.

I CAN TELL YOU WE DESIGNED CERTAIN THINGS, KIND OF LIKE THOMAS WAS DESCRIBING.

CERTAIN THINGS WERE IN-HOUSE, THEY WERE, BY THEIR NATURE EXTREMELY EFFICIENT.

METROPOLITAN IS ONE OF THE ONLY LARGE DESIGNERS OF LARGE DIAMETER PIPE IN THE COUNTRY.

AND SO IT'S INHERENTLY IN-HOUSE OTHER THINGS BY THEIR COMPLEXITY, THE TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSIONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT OUTSIDE, CONSULTANTS DOMINATING THAT.

BUT IT WAS A BALANCE, RIGHT?

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AND SO MANAGING THAT IS NOT UNLIKE EXACTLY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

JUST LIKE WHAT WE WOULD'VE TO DO HERE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

REAL QUICK BEFORE YOUR CLOSING COMMENT, UH, I'M SO PROUD OF THIS BOARD.

I LOVE THIS.

UM, UH, UH, YOU ALWAYS HEAR THE PHRASE, BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR, UH, BECAUSE YOU MIGHT GET IT.

UM, THIS, THIS IS THE RESULT OF AN ENGAGED ACTIVE BOARD.

UM, THE, THE QUESTIONS ARE FANTASTIC.

I ECHO PRESIDENT-ELECT CORDERO'S COMMENTS.

UH, THIS DOES DESERVE A DEEPER DIVE.

I THINK THE COMMITTEE, UH, PROBABLY THE INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE TO LAY OUT IF THERE'S A, A MATRIX, A A DECISION MATRIX OR IF THERE'S A, SOME SORT OF, UH, UH, UH, CHECKLIST OF HOW DO WE DETERMINE WHAT STAYS IN-HOUSE, WHAT GOES OUT, OUT OUTSIDE, UH, MAYBE THAT COULD BE FOURFOLD TRANSPARENCY AND, AND WHATNOT.

COULD BE, COULD BE BROUGHT TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE AND, AND DISCUSSED IN DEPTH THERE.

BUT, UM, I, I, THIS IS FANTASTIC.

I APPRECIATE IT.

ALRIGHT.

I, I'M MAKING A NOTE OF THAT AS WELL.

SO WE WILL BRING FORWARD A STRUCTURE OF DIALOGUE TO THE COMMITTEE STRUCTURE ITSELF BECAUSE I THINK IT HAPPENS IN MORE THAN JUST ONE COMMITTEE.

UM, SO WE, WE WILL DO THAT.

UH, AS I SAID, CHALLENGE IS ACCEPTED AND WE'RE GOING TO GET RIGHT ON IT.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, OH, THOMAS, YOU GO, ONE LAST COMMENT I'LL MAKE IS ON THE, UH, OCTOBER 15TH INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE MEETING, WE'LL BRING AN ITEM WITH REGARDS TO CIP AND HOW WE MANAGE AND WHERE THE BUDGET IS.

I THINK THAT WOULD ALSO CREATE, CREATE A, A PLATFORM FOR DISCUSSION OF SIMILAR KIND.

THANK YOU.

SO I'M, I'M SORRY FOR THE LONG-WINDED, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S ONE ELEMENT HERE IN THIS PROJECT THAT I, I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU, LEAH.

CAN YOU BRING UP THE, THE MAP THAT SHOWED THE ORIENTATION OF THIS PIPELINE.

AND SO ROBERT ELLIS IS HERE IN THE FRONT AND I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE CONVERSATION THAT I HAD WITH ROB BECAUSE THIS WAS A CRITICAL, DEVASTATING INCIDENT AND IT AFFECTED THE COMMUNITY DEEPLY.

SO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE PIPE AND THE FAILURE MODES OF THE PIPE, AND IT WAS CORROSION.

IT'S A WET ENVIRONMENT ON A HILLSIDE.

IT'S NOT TRADITIONALLY WHAT WE HAVE IN THE STREET.

THE PIPELINE, THIS TYPE OF PIPELINE IN THE STREET IS ONE OF OUR MOST STABLE PIECES OF PIPELINE IN THE ENTIRE SYSTEM.

SO IT WAS THAT CURIOSITY ASPECT OF, WELL, THIS JUST HAPPENS TO BE IN A WEIRD PLACE ON A HILLSIDE.

I, I WANNA CREDIT ROB BECAUSE ROB AND I WERE TALKING AND ROB WAS GUIDING ME THROUGH A SERIES OF STRUCTURED QUESTIONS IN A DIALOGUE.

HE DIDN'T INTEND IT THAT WAY, BUT THAT'S KIND OF HOW IT WENT IS LIKE, OKAY, SO IF THIS HAPPENED HERE AND YOU CAN SEE, OH, BRING UP THE MAP, SORRY, I WANTED TO, YOU CAN SEE THE GREEN PART.

THAT'S THE REST OF THE HILLSIDE.

SO WHAT HAPPENED HERE? WHAT'S TO SAY, WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE REST OF THE HILLSIDE? THAT WAS A CONVERSATION THAT ROB AND I HAD AND WE SAID, SO WHAT'S OUR CHOICE? LIKE, WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE OTHER UNKNOWNS THAT WE DON'T KNOW IN THE REST OF THE PLACE, KNOWING THAT WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY FIX THIS PIPE AND THEN REACTIVATE IT AND PUT IT BACK IN.

SO IT'S A CREDIT TO ROB THAT WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION AND WE SAID, SO CAN WE ABANDON THE PIPE? WELL, NOT SO EASY TO DO.

RIGHT? AND OUT OF THAT CONVERSATION COMES A CASCADING SEQUENCE OF EFFORTS FROM STAFF THAT LEADS US TO THIS POINT TODAY, WHICH I THINK WILL ULTIMATELY BE KIND OF LIKE A BOOK ENDING TO THE COMMUNITY OF SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN US RESPONDING IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMETHING LIKE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN IN THE VICINITY OF WHERE THIS HAPPENED.

SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I'M GONNA ASK ONE MORE TIME, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

SO I DIDN'T, NUMBER NINE AND 10, UH, WE'VE GOT A, UH, MOTION TO ADOPT RFP AND GRANT A REQUEST FOR, UH, RELIEF.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? NONE OPPOSED, LEILA, YOU'RE DISMISSED.

UH, MOVING ON ITEMS NUMBER 11

[11. 26-56148 Recommendation to adopt Specifications WD-56-22 and award a contract to Stephen Doreck Equipment Rentals, Inc., of Pico Rivera, California, for the Alley Water Main Conversion Pacific Avenue Project (MC-5198), in a total amount not to exceed $7,663,260; and authorize the General Manager to execute all documents necessary to enter into the contract, including any amendments.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

AND 12.

[12. 26-56149 Recommendation to adopt Request for Proposal (RFP) to provide Construction Management and Inspection Services for the Alley Water Main Conversion Pacific Avenue Project (MC-5198), and award a contract to Lee & Ro, Inc., of City of Industry, California, in a total amount not to exceed $556,622, for a period of two years; and authorize the General Manager to execute all documents necessary to enter into the contract, including any amendments.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

UH, LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING HEAR THOSE TOGETHER WITH CAROLINA.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

OKAY.

UM, SO ITEM NUMBER 11, SPECIFICATIONS WD 5 6 22.

AN AWARD OF CONTRACT TO STEVEN DORK EQUIPMENT RENTALS INC.

OF PICO RIVERA, CALIFORNIA FOR THE ALLEY WATER MAIN CONVERSION PACIFIC AVENUE PROJECT MC 51 98.

AND ITEM NUMBER 12, ADOPT A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL PROPOSAL TO PROVIDE UH OH CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT.

AND INSPECTION SERVICES FOR THE SAME PROJECT AND AWARD, A CONTRACTED LEE AND ROW INC.

OF CITY OF INDUSTRY, CALIFORNIA.

MAY I PLEASE HAVE A MOTION? THANK

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YOU.

AND A SECOND? SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, THANK YOU, UH, CAROLINA AVAN.

DONNO.

WELCOME.

THANK YOU, VILLA.

YOU SURE YOU'RE NOT NEXT? JUST KIDDING.

GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS CAROLINA AND I PRESENT ON THE ALLEY MAIN CONVERSION PROJECT.

UM, THIS PROJECT HAS TWO LOCATIONS NEAR EACH OTHER.

THE FIRST LOCATION IS ON PACIFIC AVENUE, 21ST STREET TO WILLOW STREET.

THE SECOND LOCATION IS ON SPRING STREET FROM PACIFIC AVENUE TO LONG BEACH BOULEVARD.

THIS AREA IS A MIX, IT'S A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.

THE BLUE LINE REPRESENTS THE EXISTING WATER LINES AND THE RED LINES ARE THE PROPOSED WATER LINES.

THE PROJECT WILL ALSO BE CONSTRUCTED INTO TWO PHASES.

THE FIRST PHASE WILL BE ALONG PACIFIC AVENUE AND A PORTION OF SPRING STREET.

THIS PORTION IS ALSO CRITICAL BECAUSE PUBLIC WORK HAS ALSO AN IMPROVEMENT PROJECT ALONG THE SAME LIMITS.

THE SECOND PHASE IS THE PIPELINE ALONG SPRING STREET.

FOR THIS PORTION, THE PROJECT IN INVOLVES CONSTRUCTION OF 6,900 LINEAR FEET OF EIGHT INCH AND 12 INCH DUCTAL IRON PIPE.

IT'LL BE REPLACING THE 16 SIX INCH AND 12 INCH CAST IRON AND ATO CEMENT MAIN LINES.

THERE WILL BE CONSTRUCTION TO THE NEW WATER MAIN AND THE STREET ABANDONMENT TO ABANDONMENT TO THE EXISTING WATER MAINS IN THE ALLEYS AND SURFACE RESTORATION, ALONG WITH TRAFFIC CONTROL.

THE EXISTING CAST IRON MAIN LINE, AN ALLEY, AN ALLEY EAST OF PACIFIC AVENUE, WAS INSTALLED IN 1931, AND THIS PIPELINE WAS IDENTIFIED AS PART OF THE ALLEY MAIN CONVERSION REPLACEMENT PROGRAM.

THIS SECTION OF PIPELINE HAS HAD 19 BREAKS.

SPRING STREET IS PART OF THE CAST IRON MAIN REPLACEMENT PROGRAM.

THE EXISTING CAST IRON PIPE WAS INSTALLED IN 1927, AND THIS PIPELINE HAS HAD FOUR BREAKS.

SO IN THIS SLIDE, I'M GONNA, UM, GO THROUGH THE DIFFERENT, UM, CONSTRUCTION SEQUENCES THAT HAPPEN DURING THE ALLEY MAIN CONVERSION.

AND THIS IS HOW IT TYPICALLY GOES.

SO HERE ARE, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE BLUE LINES, WHICH ARE TYPICALLY THE EXISTING WATER LINES THAT ARE, UM, CURRENTLY IN THE ALLEY.

THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE.

IN THIS SPECIFIC EXAMPLE.

YOU CAN SEE LIBERTY, LIBERTY COURT IS THE ALLEY, AND THEN THE MAIN STREET ON HERE IS LINDEN AVENUE.

THE RED LINES REPRESENT THE NEW CONSTRUCTED WATER LINES.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THESE LINES WILL BE CONSTRUCTED ALONG THE MAIN STREETS.

UM, THE SMALLER RED LINES ARE THE LATERAL SERVICES WITH THE, UM, SERVICE, UM, THE SERVICE AFTER THAT SEQUENCE IS DONE, WE TYPICALLY GO AND CON START CONSTRUCTING THE, UM, PRIVATE SERVICES.

AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE LINES, UM, HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW.

UM, YOU WILL SEE HERE THE EXISTING CONNECTION IS TYPICALLY, UM, IN THE ALLEY.

SO THIS NEW LINE HAS TO BE CONSTRUCTED AND BE ABLE TO CONNECT TO THE NEWLY INSTALLED NEW CONNECTION.

AND THE LAST PORTION OF IT WOULD BE ABANDONING THE EXISTING, UH, LINE.

AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THAT WAS THE EXISTING, UM, LINE IN THE ALLEY.

AND THEN WE TYPICALLY ABANDON THE LINE.

THIS IS ANOTHER PICTURE SHOWING, UM, A TYPICAL, UM, ALLEY MAIN.

SO HERE, THIS IS WHERE THE ALLEY MAIN LINE IS USUALLY, UM, UM, LIVES OR IS ON THERE.

AND THEN THIS IS A PORTION OF AN ALLEY WHERE WE EXCAVATE FROM ONE SIDE.

AND FINALLY ON THE OTHER SIDE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS IS THE MAIN STREET.

UH, I'M SORRY THAT I DIDN'T SHOW THE WHOLE STREET, BUT THIS WILL BE THE NEW SERVICE TO THE CONNECTION FROM THE, ON AUGUST 13TH, 2026, STAFF PUBLISHED THE NOTICE OF INVITING BIDS FOR THE ALLEY MAINE CONVERSION PACIFIC AVENUE PROJECT 458 POTENTIAL FIRMS WERE NOTIFIED, AND 19 PROSPECTIVE BIDDERS DOWNLOADED THE BID DOCUMENTS.

ON AUGUST 31ST, 2026, TWO

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BIDS WERE RECEIVED AND OPENED.

AFTER EVALUATING ALL BIDS, RECEIVED THE LOWEST BID SUBMITTED BY STEPHEN DORK RENTALS IN THE AMOUNT OF 7 MILLION 6 63 60 WAS FOUND TO BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE BID DOCUMENTS.

WE RECOMMEND THE BOARD TO ADOPT SPECIFICATIONS WD 56 22 AND AWARD CONTRACT TO STEVEN DORK EQUIPMENT RENTALS OF PICKLE RIVERA, CALIFORNIA FOR THE ALLEY WATER MAIN CONVERSION PACIFIC AVENUE PROJECT IN A TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 7,663,260.

AND AUTHORIZE THE JOURNAL MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT, INCLUDING ANY AMENDMENTS.

FOR ITEM 12.

ON AUGUST 25TH, 2026, STAFF SOLICITED PROPOSALS TO PROVIDE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND INSPECTION SERVICES FOR THE ALLEY CONVERSION PROJECT.

FIVE PROPOSALS WERE RECEIVED, EVALUATED AND ANALYZED.

STAFF RECOMMEND AWARDING BASED ON THEIR PROJECT, UNDERSTANDING COMPREHENSIVE PROJECT APPROACH AND EXPERIENCE ON SIMILAR PROJECTS.

THE NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT FOR THEIR SERVICES IS 556,622.

FOR A PERIOD OF TWO YEARS, WE RECOMMEND TO ADOPT THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL TO PROVIDE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND INSPECTION SERVICES FOR THE ALLEY WATER MAIN CONVERSION PROJECT, AND AWARD A CONTRACT TO LEE MONROE OF CITY OF INDUSTRY, CALIFORNIA IN A TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 500, 556,622 FOR A PERIOD OF TWO YEARS, AND AUTHORIZE A GENERAL MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO ENTER INTO THE CONTRACT, INCLUDING AMENDMENTS.

THAT WAS LONG.

THANK YOU.

UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

ARE THERE, ARE THERE ANY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK CURIOSITY QUESTION.

ARE THERE A LOT OF ALLEYS IN LONG BEACH THAT HAVE MAIN LINES REMAINING STILL? THIS IS 1931.

YES, THERE, THERE IS DEFINITELY A LOT OF ALLEYS WHERE WE HAVE, UH, WE STILL HAVE SOME CAST IRON, UM, BUT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO, UM, A FEW REPLACEMENT PROJECTS ALREADY.

SO IT'S ON THE MAINTENANCE LIST WHERE YOU'RE JUST CHECKING THE NUMBER OF BREAKS, AND THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT'S ONE OF OUR MAIN DRIVERS TO MAKE SURE TO CHECK HOW MANY BREAKS HAVE BEEN ON EACH, UM, ALLEY LINES.

AND THOSE ARE TYPICALLY THE ONES THAT WILL BE, UM, A HIGHER RISK.

AND THOSE WILL BE, UM, UH, GO UP IN, IN THE RANK TO PUT 'EM OUT FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.

IT'S A LITTLE SCARY, ISN'T IT? THERE'S A LOT OUT THERE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

JUST TO FOLLOW UP, I GUESS MY QUESTION WAS WHAT WAS THE IMPETUS TO, TO GET TO THIS PROJECT? WAS THERE SOME SORT OF BREAK OR, I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT AGAIN? HAVE THERE BEEN PROBLEMS WITH THE, THE, UH, WATER LINE FOR THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES ALONG PACIFIC? UM, WELL, UM, AS I MENTIONED ON THE PACIFIC, UM, SIDE, OR THE ALLEY LINES ON PACIFIC, THERE HAS BEEN, I BELIEVE I MENTIONED 19 BRICKS.

SO EVERY TIME THERE'S A BREAK ON THE ALLEYS, THERE'S ALWAYS AN IMPACT TO THE RESIDENTS.

THAT MEANS THAT THEY'RE PUT OUTTA WATER, UM, FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME, UM, IN THIS SPECIFIC AREA ALONG, UM, PACIFIC, UM, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA HERE, THERE'S A LOT OF COMMERCIAL AND MIXED RESIDENTIAL AS WELL.

SO YOU CAN IMAGINE HOW MUCH OF A IMPACT THAT WOULD BE.

19 BREAKS IS PLENTY FOR ME.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO IN THE, IN THE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF MAJOR DRIVERS.

ONE OF THE MAJOR DRIVERS IS HISTORICALLY THE POPULATION OF PIPELINES THAT WERE CAST IRON DATING, UH, TO WORLD WAR II OR PRE-WORLD WAR II STOCK, IT'S EXTREMELY BRITTLE.

SO WE'VE TRIED TO BE CONVERTING THOSE DEDUCTIBLE IRON.

THE OTHER ELEMENT, WHICH I THINK COMMISSIONER MCGUIRE WAS BRINGING UP, THE, THE ASPECT OF THE HOUSING STOCK DEVELOPMENT IN LONG BEACH HAD QUITE A BIT OF ALLEYWAY ACCESS.

AND SO CONSEQUENTLY, ORIGINALLY THAT WAS THE THOUGHT ON WHERE YOU WOULD LOCATE THE SERVICES.

UM, THERE'S A COUPLE OF PROBLEMS WITH THAT.

UH, ONE, IT'S HEAVILY TRAVELED WITH TRUCK TRAFFIC WITH REFUSE.

THAT'S ONE.

UH, BETWEEN THAT AND TRAFFIC ACCESS AND OTHER THINGS, IT MAKES IT INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT TO REPAIR A PIPELINE THERE.

THIRDLY, UH, CATALINA WAS POINTING OUT TO YOU THAT THE HOUSE FLOW AND ITS SERVICE

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HAS ITS ORIGINAL ORIENTATION, UH, IN THE ALLEY.

SO EVEN THOUGH YOU MAKE ALL THIS EFFORT FROM OUR PART TO BUILD IT IN THE STREET WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO BE, YOU STILL HAVE TO GO BACK AND CONNECT TO WHERE IT WAS IN THE ALLEY.

THIS MEANS THAT A CONTRACTOR'S EFFORT INVOLVES A NUMBER OF PERMIT AND ENTRY USE ACCESS THAT IS INDIVIDUALIZED IN EFFORTS WITH EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE RESIDENTS.

SO THE NATURE OF THE CONSTRUCTION ITSELF LENDS ITSELF TO THIS TYPE OF APPROACH.

SO ALL OF THESE FACTORS COME IN, BUT IN THE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS, WE IDENTIFY THE AREAS AND METHODICALLY GO THROUGH THE REPLACEMENT OF THE PIPELINES IN THE ALLEYWAYS.

THANK YOU.

UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT, UM, ON YOUR PROJECT LOCATION, UM, YOU SAID IT'S THE ALLEY EAST OF PACIFIC AVENUE? YES.

IS THE CROSS STREET WILLOW? YES.

THE LIMITS, IT'S, UH, WILLOW.

SO IT'S FROM 21ST STREET ALL THE WAY TO WILLOW.

BACK TO WILLOW.

OKAY.

SO THERE'S A SCHOOL THERE.

YES, THAT HAPPENS TO BE THE SCHOOL I WENT TO.

OH, OKAY.

.

AND THERE'S A GROUP OF NUNS THERE THAT ARE GONNA BE VERY ANGRY.

HA HAVE WE, I'M ASKING NUNS.

I'M ASKING A QUESTION THAT I PROBABLY KNOW THE ANSWER TO.

WE DO OUTREACH TO THEM AND LET THEM KNOW OFTEN.

YES.

YES.

OKAY.

WE DID, UM, WHAT'S THE EXTENT OF THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT WE EXPECT TO BE OUT THERE? UM, FOR THIS PORTION, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT PUBLIC WORKS IS ALSO COMING IN, WE EXPECT TO HAVE A CON CONSTRUCTION TIME OF 120 DAYS TO DO THE, UM, THE ACTUAL MAIN CONSTRUCTION.

HOWEVER, THE SERVICES WILL BE ADDITIONAL TIME.

AND THAT'S, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING INTO PRIVATE PROPERTY, SO A TOTAL TIME, UM, THE FIRST PHASE WILL BE 240 DAYS, AND THE SECOND PHASE WILL BE 120 DAYS.

YEAH.

AND, UH, PUBLIC WORKS WILL ALSO BE RIGHT BEHIND US.

SO THE, THE SEQUENCE OF WORK IS FROM, FROM THE WAY IT'S DONE, IS THAT THERE'S ALL THIS WORK DONE ON THE PERIPHERY FOR THE SYSTEM TO BE READY TO SWITCH OVER.

SO IN, IN THAT SENSE, THERE'S PERHAPS TRAFFIC DISRUPTION AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND THEN AS CARINO WAS POINTING OUT, WORKING WITH THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS FOR SERVICE, SERVICE, SERVICE, THEN THAT IS A DISTINCT POINT IN TIME TO DO THAT WORK.

SO WE DON'T HAVE A MASSIVE AREA OUT OF WATER AT ANY POINT IN TIME BY THE VERY NATURE OF, OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING.

BUT THERE IS A COMMUNITY OUTREACH COORDINATION TO HAPPEN THROUGHOUT BECAUSE THERE'S ALL KINDS OF, OF IMPACTS FROM THE CONSTRUCTION.

AND THEN WITH, WITH EL NINO, WE DON'T KNOW.

IT COULD EXTEND IT EVEN MORE.

YES.

UNFORTUNATE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GOOD REPORT.

SO, SO THE WAY THIS PROJECTS LOOK, LOOKS TO ME, AND I DO HAVE SOME PRETTY FAMILIARITY WITH THE, THE AREA.

UM, IS THIS PRIMARILY AFFECTING THE WEST SIDE OF, UH, PACIFIC? EAST SIDE? EAST? UM, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? WEST SIDE OF PACIFIC, EAST SIDE OF PACIFIC OR EAST OR WEST SIDE OF PACIFIC AVENUE WHERE THE LINE WILL BE BEHIND IT.

SO THE BEHIND THE SCHOOL.

SO LINDEN, IS THE STREET BEHIND IT OR AN ALLEY? AN ALLEY THEN DEN? YES.

YES.

SO THE BLUE LINES ARE WHERE WE HAVE OUR EXISTING MAIN LINES.

AND THE NEW LINE WOULD BE THE ONE, UH, THE RED LINE THAT'S RUNNING ON PACIFIC ALONG PACIFIC FROM 21ST STREET ALL THE WAY UP TO WILLOW.

I SEE IT IS THE WEST SIDE OR THE EAST SIDE.

EAST SIDE OF THE STREET.

GOT IT.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? OKAY, UH, WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADOPT, UH, ITEMS NUMBER 11 AND 12.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? NONE OPPOSED.

THANK YOU.

MOVING ON.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, ITEM NUMBER

[13. 26-56150 Recommendation to adopt Request for Proposal (RFP) for On-Call Professional Engineering Services and award contracts to JIG Consultants, of Orange, California; DRP Engineering, Inc., of Monterey Park, California; Kyle Groundwater, Inc., of Pomona, California; GHD, Inc., of Irvine, California; Black & Veatch, of Lafayette, California; Lee & Ro, Inc., of City of Industry, California; AKM Consulting Engineers, of Irvine, California; Tetra Tech, Inc., of Pasadena, California; Dudek, of Encinitas, California; Stantec Consulting Services, Inc., of Denver, Colorado; Cannon Corporation, of San Luis Obispo, California; Michael Baker International, Inc., of Moon Township, Pennsylvania; Environ Architecture, Inc., of Long Beach, California; AtkinsRealis USA Inc., of Tampa, Florida; Energy Experts International, of Redwood City, California; Wood Rodgers, Inc., of Sacramento, California; Corrpro Companies, Inc., of Houston, Texas; Farwest Corrosion Control Company, of Downey, California; Harper & Associates Engineering, Inc., of Corona, California; NUVIS, of Newport Beach, California; SA Associates, of Arcadia, California; Pacific Advanced Civil Engineering, Inc., of Fountain Valley, California; Diversified Project Services International, Inc., of Bakersfield, California; SPEC Services, Inc., of Fountain Valley, California; and KPFF Consulting Engineers, of Watsonville, California; in a total aggregate amount not to exceed $12,000,000, for a period of three years, with the option to renew for one additional year, at the discretion of the General Manager; and authorize the General Manager to execute all documents necessary to enter into the contracts, including any amendments.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

13, ADOPT REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL AND AWARD CONTRACTS FOR ON-CALL PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES.

AND THANKFULLY I DON'T HAVE TO READ ALL THOSE NAMES, I'M AFRAID FERNANDO MIGHT HAVE TO.

SO, UH, MAY I PLEASE HAVE A MOTION YOU IN A SECOND? THANK, UH, FERNANDO EGGLESTON.

WELCOME.

THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONER.

GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONER.

BUT MORNING PRESIDENT SCOTT AS WELL.

UM, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT INTRO.

I DO HAVE TO READ ALL THE NAMES.

SO THE DEMAND FOR SPECIALIZED ON ENGINEERING SERVICES AND FOR DESIGN HAS GROWN SIGNIFICANTLY AMONG, ALONGSIDE, UH, THE UTILITIES CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

THESE CONTRACTS PROVIDE THE CRITICAL TECHNICAL EXPERTISE NEEDED TO SUCCESSFULLY DELIVER DESIGN FOR OUR PLANNED INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS

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AND THE PLANS THAT WE ARE AND WHY IT'S NEEDED.

THE FACTORS THAT WE USE ARE THE PLANNED BUDGETED ENGINEERING, DESIGN AND, UH, STUDY PROJECTS, EMERGENCY SITUATIONS, UNPLANNED OR UNBUDGETED ENGINEERING DESIGN STUDY PROJECTS.

AND THE GOAL IS TO HAVE ACCESS TO RAPID, FLEXIBLE, SPECIALIZED ENGINEERING, DESIGN AND ENGINEERING RELATED EXPERTISE.

AND THESE ARE THE, UH, PROGRAMS AND THE PROJECTS AND SPECIAL TASKS THAT ARE UNDER THIS BENCH.

IT WOULD BE PIPELINE IMPROVEMENTS, PUMP, UH, PUMP STATION IMPROVEMENTS, PIPELINE CONDITION ASSESSMENT, TANK REHABILITATION.

THOSE ARE THE TOP FOUR.

BUT YOU CAN SEE WE ALSO HAVE, UH, QUITE A ROBUST, UH, TASK LIST THIS TIME AROUND WITH LANDSCAPE DESIGN INCLUDED, AS WELL AS ELECTRICAL SUPPORT AND ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN WITH, UH, GRANT WRITING SERVICES.

NOW, THE REQUE, HOW THESE PRO PROPOSALS WERE RECEIVED.

WE SENT AN RFP WITH A DETAILED SCOPE OF WORK THAT WAS POSTED ON LONG BEACH BUYS 131 PROSPECTIVE PROPOSALS, UM, ACCESS TO RFP INFO.

34 CONSULTANTS SUBMITTED THEIR PROPOSALS.

THE PROPOSALS WERE REVIEWED AND EVALUATING, CONSIDERING THESE FACTORS, WHICH ARE THE ABILITY, UH, AND RESOURCES TO PERFORM THE WORK, THE STAFF EXPERIENCE AND SUCCESS WITH SIMILAR PROJECTS, THE PROJECT UNDERSTANDING AND SPECIFIC TECHNIQUES USED AND REASONABLENESS OF THEIR FEES.

AND OUR, UH, THE GOAL UNDER THAT WAS ALSO TO JUST LOCK IN THOSE RATES FOR THE THREE YEARS, AND EVEN FOR THAT EXTENSION TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THOSE RATES AS WELL, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, UM, KEEP THOSE PRICES DOWN FOR THE DESIGN.

AS FOR THE PROPOSED LIST OF CONSULTANTS, YOU SEE THERE ARE 25 CONSULTANTS, AND I WILL SAVE THE READING FOR ALL OF THOSE CONSULTANTS IN THE RECOMMENDATION.

BUT TO POINT OUT JUST A FEW, UH, STANTEC, JUDA AND, UH, TECH TO CHECK, THOSE ARE CONSULTANTS THAT THEY SUBMITTED ON 10 OR MORE OF THE PROGRAM OR A TASK THAT WERE LISTED IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.

UM, ALSO THEY HAVE, UH, QUITE A FEW, AND I MENTIONED ALREADY THE ARCHITECTURAL AND, UH, ELECTRICAL.

I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS GONNA MENTION IT HERE AS WELL.

THE CONSULTANTS PRO, PRO PER PROGRAM, SINCE WE ARE A UTILITY COMPANY, THE PIPELINE IMPROVEMENT AND PIPELINE CONDITION ASSESSMENTS ARE, UM, THE CONSULTANTS, UH, THAT SUBMITTED FOR THOSE ARE 19 AND 12.

WE ALSO HAVE PUMP STATION IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE MENTIONED EARLIER, AND THERE WERE, UM, 16 CONSULTANTS THAT SUBMITTED FOR THAT.

AND WE ALSO HAVE, UH, JUST TWO FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL EVALUATION AND CONSULTATION, WHICH WILL, WILL BE A NICE ADDITION TO THIS, UM, THIS BENCH OR DISCO RAIL.

NOW, WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THE FACTORS THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY FOR THE RFP, WHEN WE SEND OUT A REQUEST FOR A PROPOSAL, WE ALSO CHANGE THAT TO A REQUEST FOR QUOTES WHEN, UM, WE HAVE THOSE BENCH CONSULTANTS ALREADY.

AND WHAT DO WE DO IS WE STILL GO IN, REVIEW EACH PROPOSAL AND CHANGE THAT ABILITY RESOURCES TO COMPLETE NOT ONLY THE, THE TASKS THAT WERE LISTED, BUT THAT SPECIFIC PROJECT THAT WE ARE SENDING TO THEM.

AND THEN WE'LL STILL CONSIDER THE STAFF EXPERIENCE AND SUCCESS WITH SOME SIMILAR PROJECTS, THEIR PROJECT UNDERSTANDING FOR THAT SPECIFIC PROJECT AND THE METHODS THAT THEY WILL USE, AS WELL AS REASONABLENESS OF FEES.

BUT THIS TIME WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE, MAKE SURE THAT THE RATES THEY USE WHEN THEY SUBMITTED TO LONG BEACH BUYS, THEY'RE STILL USING THOSE SAME RATES WHEN THEY SEND US THOSE QUOTES.

NOW, THE RECOMMENDATION, AND THAT IS AN ENTIRE PAGE, ISN'T IT? OKAY, I'M, I'M GONNA TRY, BUT I'M SORRY IF, UH, IF I, IF I TAKE UP TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME, BUT WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT YOU ADOPT A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR THE ON-CALL PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES AND CONTRACTS TO GET CONSULTANTS, DRP ENGINEERING INC.

HOW GROUND GROUNDWATER INC.

GH, HD INC.

BLACK AND VEATCH CORPORATION, LEON WIG, A KM CONSULTING ENGINEERS, TETRATECH INC.

DO DECK STANTEC CONSULTING SERVICES, INC.

AND INCORPORATION

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MICHAEL BAKER INTERNATIONAL INC.

AND VIRON ARCHITECTURE INC.

ATKINS REALIS, USA INC.

ENERGY EXPERTS INTERNATIONAL WOOD ROGERS, INC.

CORPORAL COMPANIES INC.

FOR CORROSION CO CONTROL COMPANY, HARPER AND ASSOCIATES ENGINEERING INC.

SA ASSOCIATES, PACIFIC ADVANCED CIVIL ENGINEERING, INC.

DIVERSIFIED PROJECT SERVICES INTERNATIONAL, INC.

SPEC SERVICES INC.

KPFF CONSULTING ENGINEERS.

AND THAT WOULD BE THE 25 THAT WE WERE, ARE CONSIDERING, AND A TOTAL AGGREGATE OF NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT TO OF $12 MILLION FOR A PERIOD OF THREE YEARS, WITH THE OPTION TO RENEW FOR ONE ADDITIONAL YEAR AT THE DISCRETION OF THE GENERAL MANAGER, AND AUTHORIZED THE GENERAL MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO ENTER INTO THE CONTRACT AGREEMENTS, INCLUDING ANY AMENDMENTS.

THAT WOULD BE THE PRESENTATION AS IT IS.

I'M GLAD EVERYBODY IS STILL AWAKE, AND I'M SORRY I HAD TO READ ALL THOSE NAMES.

THANK YOU FER.

FERNANDO, THAT WAS A MOUTHFUL.

UH, ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, ANY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS, SIR? I'LL JUST KIND OF ADDING ON TO WHAT I'VE ALREADY KIND OF TALKED ABOUT QUITE A BIT.

UH, THE, ON PAGE FOUR, THE LIST OF SPECIAL TASKS.

I GUESS WHEN YOU SAY CHALLENGE ACCEPTED, MAYBE THIS LIST COULD GET SMALLER IF WE HAD IN-HOUSE EXPERTISE IN CERTAIN AREAS OR HOWEVER YOU'RE GOING TO ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE.

I, I THINK THAT MY POINT IS WE NEED THESE FOLKS.

I, I TOTALLY SUPPORT THIS, UM, AND THEIR EXPERTISE.

WE HAVE A LOT OF SMART PEOPLE HERE IN OUR DEPARTMENT AND IN THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT, AND, AND WE WANNA UTILIZE THOSE AS BEST WE CAN.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, UH, LET'S SEE, WHERE ARE WE? GOT A MOTION TO ADOPT? UM, AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? NONE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, FERNANDO.

THANK YOU.

UH, MOVING ON.

ITEM NUMBER 14,

[14. 26-56151 Recommendation to adopt Resolution No. UT-1569 authorizing the General Manager to execute a contract, and any necessary documents, including any amendments, with Ocean Blue Environmental Services, Inc., of Long Beach, California (“Ocean Blue”), for providing as needed hazardous waste removal services on the same terms and conditions afforded to the City of Pasadena, California (Contract No. 33739), except as modified by mutual agreement of the Board and Ocean Blue, in an annual amount not to exceed $1,000,000, until the City of Pasadena contract expires on July 28, 2031, with an option to renew for as long as the City of Pasadena contract remains in effect, at the discretion of the General Manager.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation ]

ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER UT 1 5 6 9.

AUTHORIZE IN THE GENERAL MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT AND ANY NECESSARY DOCUMENTS, INCLUDING ANY AMENDMENTS WITH OCEAN BLUE ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES INCORPORATED OF LONG BEACH, CALIFORNIA FOR PROVIDING AS NEEDED HAZMAT REMOVAL SERVICES.

MAY I PLEASE HAVE A MOTION? THANK YOU.

AND A SECOND, UH, THIS ITEM, UH, IS BEFORE US WITH A STAFF RECOMMENDATION IN THE INTEREST OF TIME.

AND UNLESS THERE'S AN OBJECTION FROM THE COMMISSION, I WOULD RECOMMEND OR I WOULD ENTERTAIN THE PROCEEDING, UH, TO APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WITHOUT STAFF PRESENTATION.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? ALRIGHT, HEARING NONE.

UH, LET'S SEE.

OUR, YEAH, HAVE A SEAT.

, UH, UH, ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, SO WE'VE GOT, UH, MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

THANK YOU.

ANY OPPOSED? RESOLUTION ROLL CALL RESOLUTION.

DARN IT.

VICE PRESIDENT CORDERO? YES.

SECRETARY PARKIN.

COMMISSIONER MCGUIRE? YES.

COMMISSIONER AUSTIN.

AYE.

AND PRESIDENT SCOTT.

AYE.

THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER ON THE RESOLUTION.

MY APOLOGIES.

UH, SO SORRY, TY.

UH, MOVING ON.

ITEM NUMBER 15, RECEIVE

[15. 26-56152 Recommendation to receive and file the 2026 Long Beach Public Utilities Department Water Resources Plan.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

AND FILE THE 2026 LONG BEACH PUBLIC UTILITIES DEPARTMENT WATER RESOURCES PLAN.

MAY I PLEASE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE MOTION? THANK YOU.

AND A SECOND THANK YOU.

CALL ON DEAN WANG.

WELCOME, DEAN.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

I WASN'T SURE IF I SHOULD COME UP HERE OR IF, UH, RIGHT OFF THE HOOK.

YOU'RE ON THE HOOK.

ALRIGHT.

WELL, THIS IS THE, TO, TO TIE UP THE 2026 WATER RESOURCES PLAN EFFORTS.

I'VE COME BEFORE THE BOARD A COUPLE OF TIMES TO SHARE THE PROGRESS, UM, ON THE ANALYSIS AND THE WORK THAT'S, UM, COME, COME ALONG THE WAY.

AND REALLY, THIS IS TO, UH, FINALIZE THE REPORT THAT HAS BEEN GENERATED AFTER ALL OF THIS EFFORT.

SO IT'LL BE A HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY.

SO I'LL GO THROUGH VERY QUICKLY THE WATER RESOURCES PLANNING PROCESS, WHAT RESULTED IN THE WATER SUPPLY PATHWAYS THAT THE WATER RESOURCES PLAN IS RECOMMENDING.

AND THEN FINALLY, WHAT NEXT STEPS ARE, UH, AFTER THIS WATER RESOURCES PLAN REPORT IS, UH, FINALIZED.

SO, UH, ACTUALLY FIRST, I, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK AND RECOGNIZE OUR CONSULTANT.

UH, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION TODAY.

WHY HASN'T THIS WORK? UH, YOU KNOW, WHY CAN'T MORE WORK BE DONE IN-HOUSE? AND I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, WHILE I MAYBE COULD ATTEMPT TO DO A LOT OF THIS WORK, THERE WAS A LOT OF SPECIALIZED ANALYSIS AND STATISTICAL RIGOR THAT GOES INTO THIS PLAN THAT I WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO.

UH, AND DEFINITELY NOT ON MY OWN, NOT ON THE, THE QUICK TIMELINE THAT OUR CONSULTANTS WERE ABLE TO.

AND

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SO, UH, PER SNY, ST.

CHARLES REPRESENTING WOODARD AND CURRENT, OUR CONSULTANT THAT HELPED ON THIS PLAN IS HERE.

SO, UH, I DO APPRECIATE THE HELP FROM THE CONSULTANTS.

UH, SO THE WATER RESOURCES PLANNING PROCESS, UH, THE, THE OVERALL GOALS, UH, YOU'LL SEE HERE ON PAGE, I WON'T READ THEM ALL, BUT THESE ARE, THESE ARE ALL JUST SIMILAR TO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

THESE ARE OBJECTIVES THAT ARE NON-CONTROVERSIAL, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UH, WHILE THEY'RE NON-CONTROVERSIAL, ARE, ARE ACTUALLY VERY DIFFICULT TO ACHIEVE AND TAKE A LOT OF EFFORT AND PLANNING AND FOR, UH, FORESIGHT, UM, TO, TO THINK THROUGH HOW DO WE ACHIEVE THESE OBJECTIVES.

AND SO THE PROCESS THAT WE UNDERTOOK, THE FIRST STEP IS WE HAD TO UNDERSTAND OUR CURRENT AND OUR FUTURE CONDITIONS.

A LOT OF ANALYSIS WAS DONE AS FAR AS WHAT OUR CURRENT, UH, SUPPLIES ARE AND THEIR RELIABILITY.

AND THE, THE GENERAL SYNOPSIS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE, UH, CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE ON BOTH THE COLORADO RIVER AND THE STATE WATER PROJECT, IMPORTED WATER RELIABILITY IS GOING TO BECOME A QUESTION.

UM, AND SO, UH, AGAIN, I WON'T GO INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL HERE ON THE ANALYSIS THAT HAS GONE THROUGH.

IF YOU SEE THE, THE BOARDS THAT ARE OUT HERE IN THE, UM, THE, THE, THE DINING TABLE AREA, UH, THOSE ARE THE POSTERS THAT WE ACTUALLY PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC AT THE PUBLIC MEETING THAT HAPPENED LAST, UH, WEDNESDAY.

AND SO THOSE REALLY, UH, SUMMARIZE THE ANALYSIS AND THE RESULTS OF OUR WATER RESOURCES PLAN.

SO IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE, YOU CAN, UH, TAKE A LOOK.

UH, THANK YOU TO JESSE AND, AND JOY AND THE PUBLIC AFFAIRS TEAM FOR PUTTING THAT TOGETHER.

REALLY GREAT, UM, UH, PUBLICLY DIGESTIBLE, UH, MESSAGING OF WHAT THE WATER RESOURCES PLAN IS REALLY TRYING TO, UH, COMMUNICATE SO WE UNDERSTAND OUR CURRENT AND FUTURE CONDITIONS, LOOK AT THE, UH, SUPPLY AVAILABILITY AND THE RISKS TO SUPPLY.

AND THEN WE ALSO LOOKED AT WHAT OUR PROJECTED FUTURE DEMANDS ARE, UH, GOING OUT TO THE FUTURE.

AND REALLY, UM, THE MESSAGE, UH, TO TAKE HOME THERE IS THAT OUR DEMANDS WILL CONTINUE TO, TO GRADUALLY DECREASE, BUT WE NEED TO ACTUALLY PERHAPS ACCELERATE THAT DECREASE BY, UH, DOING EVEN MORE CONSERVATION TO MEET THE REQUIRED STATE CONSERVATION TARGETS THAT THE STATE HAS SET FORTH, UH, GOING OUT INTO 2040.

SO AFTER WE LOOKED AT OUR SUPPLY AND DEMAND, AND WE, WE HAD TO LOOK AT WHAT SUPPLY OPTIONS WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US.

AND REALLY THE TAKEAWAY HERE ON THIS SLIDE IS ALL THESE DIFFERENT LITTLE ICONS INDICATE THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO US.

WE ARE VERY BLESSED HERE IN, IN THE, YOU KNOW, THE GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION THAT WE'RE LOCATED TO HAVE A LOT OF OPTIONS.

UH, WE HAVE, WE'RE CENTRALLY LOCATED FOR A LOT, A LOT OF OUR, UH, WHOLESALERS AND, AND AMONG DIFFERENT REGIONAL PARTNERS TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN A LOT OF REGIONAL, UH, PROJECTS LIKE PURE WATER, UH, LIKE THE DIFFERENT, UH, PROJECTS THAT WRD MAY HAVE ENVISIONED.

SO WE HAVE A LOT OF, UH, OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO US, BUT THAT ACTUALLY CREATES THE CHALLENGE OF HOW DO WE EVALUATE AND SELECT HOW TO MOVE FORWARD, WHICH PROJECTS, UH, ARE BEST FOR US TO BE PRIORITIZING TO PURSUE.

AND SO, UH, TWO, UH, HELP INFORM THOSE DECISIONS.

WE HAD A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UH, INTERESTED PARTIES WEIGH IN AS FAR AS WHAT THEIR PRIORITIES ARE.

WE, UH, CONTACTED AND, AND HAD, UH, WORKSHOPS WITH CITY, UH, OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS.

WE HAD, UH, CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR OTHER REGIONAL WATER AGENCY PARTNERS, UH, THE GENERAL PUBLIC, UH, OUR OWN INTERNAL DIFFERENT STAFF, UH, DEPARTMENTS AS WELL, UH, OUR BUREAUS, I SHOULD SAY, UH, TO GET INPUT FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT COULD BE IMPACTED BY THE DECISIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE LAID OUT BY THE WATER RESOURCES PLAN.

AND SO FROM THERE, UH, USING THAT INPUT, WE EVALUATED THE DIFFERENT, UH, OPPORTUNITIES ACCORDING TO ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT CRITERIA.

IT WASN'T JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, WHICH, WHICH OPTION COSTS THE LEAST.

UH, THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UH, CONSIDERATIONS WHEN EVALUATING THE SUPPLY OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US.

AND SO WE USE, UH, UH, UH, METHOD AGAIN, UH, THAT OUR CONSULTANTS, UH, ASSISTED WITH, WHICH IS EVALUATING ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS AVAILABLE TO US ACCORDING TO ALL THESE CRITERIA.

AND JUST NATURALLY, UH, IF YOU RECALL A COUPLE WORKSHOPS AGO, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO START NARROWING DOWN THE LIST OF ALL THE OPTIONS DOWN TO A SELECT FEW PATHWAYS THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

SO IN ALL THAT EFFORT, UH, LED TO, UH, WHERE WE ARE TODAY, AND WE HAVE A DRAFT WATER RESOURCES PLAN.

UH, THE QR CODE HERE, UH, IS THE, THE LINK TO THE FULL DOCUMENT.

IF THE BOARD, UH, YOU KNOW, HAS, HAS TIME OR DESIRE TO READ A, A VERY LONG DOCUMENT, I'M DOING MY BEST TO SUMMARIZE IT FOR YOU HERE SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ THE HUNDREDS OF PAGES.

UH, BUT, UH, THIS IS MADE AVAILABLE TO PUBLIC, IT'S OPEN TO, TO PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, IT'S BEEN, UH, MADE AVAILABLE AND, AND WE'RE OPEN TO RECEIVING COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC.

AND SO, FINALLY, THE, THE FINAL CONCLUSION IS WHAT ARE THE WATER SUPPLY PATHWAYS THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING? AND I, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THAT ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, FORTUITOUSLY THAT, UH, LILA WAS ABLE TO PRESENT ON THE GROUNDWATER RESILIENCE PROGRAM, UH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK HER, HER PRESENTATION HIGHLIGHTS HOW, UH, EVEN THOUGH THE WATER RESOURCES PLANT IDENTIFIES CERTAIN PROJECTS, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF WORK AFTER THAT'S DONE TO ACTUALLY INVESTIGATE AND, AND ULTIMATELY IMPLEMENT, UM, THOSE, UH, THESE IDEAS OR THESE

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PROJECT CONCEPTS.

SO, UH, NOW WITH THE 2026, UH, WATER RESOURCES PLAN, UM, WE, WE LANDED ON, UH, EVALUATING THAT, UH, THE GROUNDWATER RESILIENCE PROGRAM IS CORE TO OUR FUTURE WATER SUPPLY PORTFOLIO.

UM, WE DID EVALUATE THOROUGHLY OPTIONS WHERE WE DID NOT IMPLEMENT THE GROUNDWATER RESILIENCE PROGRAM.

AND IN THOSE OPTIONS, UH, LONG BEACH UTILITIES WOULD HAVE TO IMPLEMENT SEVERAL DIFFERENT, UH, MORE COMPLEX, LESS DESIRABLE PROJECTS IF WE DON'T PROCEED WITH THE GROUNDWATER RESILIENCE PROGRAM.

AND SO, AS A PLAN, A GROUNDWATER RESILIENCE PLAN IS A CORE TO OUR FUTURE, UH, SUPPLY GROUNDWATER RESILIENCE PROGRAM WILL OPEN UP, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO UTILIZE, UH, OUR FULLY UTILIZED OUR EXISTING GROUNDWATER RIGHTS.

UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE, THE MAP THAT, THAT LILA SHOWED OF THE DIFFERENT ZONES THAT WE HAVE AND THE INABILITY CURRENTLY TO, UH, UTILIZE GROUNDWATER IN THE WESTERN PORTION OF LONG BEACH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE MORE RIGHTS NOW THAN THE BLENDED ZONE, UH, CAN USE.

AND SO BECAUSE OF CONSERVATION OVER TIME, UH, WE HAVE, YEAH, ESSENTIALLY UNUSED GROUNDWATER RIGHTS THAT WE CAN'T PUT TO USE IN THAT WESTERN ZONE.

AND SO, GROUNDWATER RESILIENCE PROGRAM WILL ALLOW US TO FULLY UTILIZE OUR EXISTING GROUNDWATER RIGHTS, UH, TO, UH, COMMISSIONER CORDERO'S EARLIER QUESTION OF HOW DOES PURE WATER FIT IN? WELL, THIS DOESN'T QUITE FIT THAT JUST YET, BUT IT, IT STARTS SPEAKING TO THAT, THAT QUESTION, WHICH IS OKAY NOW THAT, UM, LET'S SAY IN FUTURE WE'VE MOVED FORWARD WITH THE GROUNDWATER RESILIENCE PROGRAM.

WHAT, WHERE DO WE ACTUALLY GET THE RIGHTS TO PUT INTO THAT PLANT WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PHYSICAL MOLECULES OF WATER THAT ARE COMING OUT, WHAT GIVES US THE RIGHT TO PUMP THAT WATER? UM, AND SO A PART OF THE, UH, GROUNDWATER RESILIENCE, UH, SORRY.

PART OF THE WATER RESOURCES PLAN IS IDENTIFYING THAT WE WILL NEED TO PURSUE ADDITIONAL GROUNDWATER RIGHTS TO SUPPLY, UM, THE, THE, UH, TREATMENT PLAN ESSENTIALLY.

SO, UH, IN THIS, THIS PLAN IS TO GO OUT AND PURCHASE ADDITIONAL GROUNDWATER RIGHTS.

WE EVALUATED LEASING RIGHTS VERSUS PURCHASING RIGHTS.

AND, UH, FOR THE SAKE OF HAVING, UH, YOU KNOW, PERMANENT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO, UH, THERE WERE BENEFITS TO OWNING THOSE RIGHTS VERSUS LONG-TERM LEASING.

AND THEN CONCURRENT TO GROUNDWATER RESILIENCE PROGRAM, UH, THE WATER RESOURCES PLAN IDENTIFIED THAT WE, WE HAVE A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL RECYCLED WATER SUPPLIES.

THE CURRENT, UH, RECYCLED WATER SUPPLIES COME TO US FROM THE LONG BEACH RECLAMATION PLANT.

UM, BUT WE WILL, UH, PLAN TO BE FULLY UTILIZING, UH, THOSE SUPPLIES ONCE THE HANES PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO THE BOARD, UH, COMES ONLINE, UH, ONTO OUR SUPPLIES.

AND SO, UH, WHERE DO WE GET ADDITIONAL RECYCLED WATER SUPPLY? WELL, THAT WOULD BE FROM THE LOS COYOTES, UH, WATER RECLAMATION PLANT.

UH, THAT'S JUST THE NORTH OF, UH, LONG BEACH.

AND SO WE'D NEED TO CONNECT, UH, ESSENTIALLY A LONG PIPELINE TO BRING THOSE SUPPLIES DOWN TO LONG BEACH.

BUT, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE KEY, UM, WATER, UH, SUPPLY SOURCE FOR RECYCLED WATER SUPPLIES THAT, THAT WE ARE PRIORITIZING FOR THE FUTURE.

AND THEN CONCURRENT WITH, UH, ACTUAL PHYSICAL WATER SUPPLIES, UH, I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT'S IMPORTANT TO CONTINUE TO ENHANCE OUR CONSERVATION EFFORTS IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ABLE TO MEET THE FUTURE STATE MANDATES.

AND THEN, UH, STORMWATER PROJECTS WEREN'T EVALUATED.

AND SO THIS STORMWATER PROJECTS ARE ALWAYS, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THE PUBLIC LIKES TO HEAR ABOUT STORMWATER PROJECTS.

ALWAYS IS INTERESTED IN HOW WE'RE, UH, PURSUING STORMWATER.

AND WE DID EVALUATE THAT.

BUT AS A CORE SUPPLY, UM, STORMWATER IS UNPREDICTABLE, UNRELIABLE.

AND ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, HERE IN LONG BEACH, THERE ARE CHALLENGES TO ACTUALLY CAPTURING THAT IN OUR GROUNDWATER BASIN.

AND SO THAT MAKES A STORAGE OR HOLDING ONTO THAT CAPTURED STORMWATER QUITE A CHALLENGE.

AND, UM, IT ACTUALLY DOESN'T ADD UP TO A, A LARGE PORTION OF SUPPLY SHOULD WE EVEN TRY TO PURSUE IT.

AND SO IT'S NOT THAT WE WON'T SUPPORT STORMWATER PROJECTS, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY NOT, UH, SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO RELY UPON AS A KEY COMPONENT OF OUR FUTURE WATER SUPPLIES.

BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT, UH, STORMWATER PROJECTS AND PILOTS.

AND SO, UH, I GUESS BEFORE I OPT OUT, SO THESE ARE NEAR TERM, UH, PROJECTS, UH, PROJECTS THAT WE'RE, UH, RECOMMENDING AS PREFERRED PATHWAY.

UH, THE NEXT COUPLE OF OPTIONS ARE LONGER TERM, UH, LOOKING OUT FURTHER.

AND THESE ARE LESS CERTAIN BECAUSE THEY'RE DEPENDENT UPON, UH, PROJECT PARTNERS LIKE METROPOLITAN OR WATER, UH, REPLENISHMENT DISTRICT AND THEIR BOARDS DECIDING HOW THEY, UH, WILL OR WON'T MOVE FORWARD WITH CERTAIN PROJECTS.

BUT, UH, AS OF NOW, UH, ONE OF THE POTENTIAL LONG-TERM OPTIONS AFTER WE PURSUE THESE SHORT-TERM OPTIONS IS TO JUST CONTINUE TO RELY UPON IMPORTER WATER FOR THE LAST INCREMENT OF SUPPLY.

THIS WOULD BE JUST FOR A SMALL PORTION OF OUR REMAINING DEMAND.

AND SO OUR EXPOSURE TO THE RISK OF, UH, RELIABILITY OF IMPORTER WATER IS SIGNIFICANTLY DECREASED.

UH, AND IT'S ALSO, UH, LESS COSTLY ACTUALLY THAN SOME OF THESE OTHER OPTIONS BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND THE FACT THAT WE ARE JUST PURCHASING A LITTLE BIT OF IMPORTED WATER, UH, THERE IS NO CAPITAL COST INVOLVED, UM, TO, TO COMPENSATE FOR THE SECOND OPTION WOULD

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BE TO PURSUE, UM, AND PARTICIPATE IN PURE WATER, UH, BY TAKING THAT WATER AND PUTTING INTO OUR GROUNDWATER BASIN IN, UH, FOR GROUNDWATER AUGMENTATION AND LATER PULLING THAT OUT, UH, AS, AS GROUNDWATER SUPPLIES.

AND THAT'S DEPENDENT UPON, YOU KNOW, HOW AND WHETHER, UH, METROPOLITAN DECIDES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PURE WATER PROJECT, AND THEY HAVE DECISIONS TO MAKE AS FAR AS HOW, HOW THAT WATER WILL BE PRICED TO THOSE THAT ARE TAKING THAT WATER.

AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, FACTORS TO EVALUATE IN THAT CONSIDERATION.

AND WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S WHERE THIS PLAN IS ADAPTIVE, IN THAT WE DO PLAN TO EVALUATE AND REEVALUATE THESE FUTURE SUPPLIES AS WE GET MORE DETAILS TO SEE WHETHER THEY ARE STILL PREFERRED PATHWAY FOR LONG BEACH UTILITIES.

AND SIMILARLY, UH, THE, THE THIRD PREFERRED PATHWAY FOR THE LONG TERM WOULD BE A REGIONAL BRACKISH GROUNDWATER PROJECT.

AND SO THIS IS WHERE, UH, IN THE PAST WHEN THE GROUNDWATER BASINS WERE DRAWN DOWN, DOWN TOO LOW, THERE WAS SEA WATER THAT INTRUDED INTO OUR GROUNDWATER BASINS.

UH, THEY, THEY'VE SINCE, UH, UH, INSTALLED SEAWATER BARRIERS THAT PREVENT ADDITIONAL, UH, SEA WATER FROM GETTING INTO THE BASINS, BUT THERE'S, UH, RESIDUAL PLUMES OF BRACKISH, UM, SEA WATER THAT ARE IN OUR GROUNDWATER BASINS.

AND SO THIS PROJECT WOULD BE TO, UH, EXTRACT THAT BRACKISH GROUNDWATER, UH, TREAT IT AND, AND PUT IT TO USE AS GROUNDWATER SUPPLY.

AND SO RIGHT NOW, UH, WWRD ALREADY HAS A TORRANCE DE SALTER, UH, WHICH THEY'RE DOING JUST THAT.

UM, SO THE, THE POTENTIAL FROM TO EXPAND THAT PROJECT IS WHAT THIS IS LOOKING AT.

AND IF THEY, IF WRD EXPANDS THEIR, UH, REGIONAL DESAL PROJECT, THERE WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR LONG BEACH TO ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE, UM, IN A SHARE OF THAT, UH, DESAL PROGRAM.

SO THOSE ARE THE THREE, UH, POTENTIAL, UH, LONG-TERM PATHWAYS FOR WATER SUPPLY.

AND, AND THAT, THAT THIS IS IN ESSENCE, THIS ONE SLIDE IS, IF YOU WANNA SAY THE PLAN, UM, FOR, UH, FOR OUR LONG-TERM WATER SUPPLY FUTURE.

SO WITH THAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS, UH, GOING FORWARD FROM HERE? UM, SO AGAIN, TO TO REFERENCE LILA'S UM, PRESENTATION, THE WATER RESOURCES PLAN ISN'T THE, THE FINAL TIME THAT THE BOARD WILL BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN.

AND ACTUALLY, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT EVEN REALLY A, A FORMAL ACTION THAT THE BOARD IS, IS TAKING TODAY OTHER THAN A RECEIVE AND FILE THAT THIS IS THE WATER RESOURCES PLAN.

BECAUSE ALL THESE PROJECTS IDENTIFIED BY THE WATER RESOURCES PLAN WILL COME TO THE BOARD FOR FUTURE APPROVAL.

UM, THERE WILL BE FEASIBILITY STUDIES DONE THAT THE BOARD WILL HAVE TO APPROVE.

THERE WILL BE ENGINEERING, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS THAT THE BOARD WOULD APPROVE.

UM, AND THEN ALL OF THAT YEARS OF, OF, OF DIFFERENT STUDIES AND CONTRACTS AND CONSTRUCTION WOULD RESULT IN THESE PROJECTS ACTUALLY COMING ONLINE INTO THE FUTURE.

SO, UH, ALL, ALL THESE PROJECTS IDENTIFIED, UH, WILL COME BACK FOR THE BOARD FOR ACTUAL FORMAL ACTION AND DECISION ONCE WE HAVE ADDITIONAL, UH, DETAIL.

OKAY.

SO WITH THAT, UH, I'VE CONCLUDED MY PRESENTATION AND THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE BOARD IS TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE 2026 LONG BEACH PUBLIC UTILITIES DEPARTMENT WATER RESOURCES PLAN.

THANK YOU, DEAN.

UH, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? ANY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? YES.

SO, UH, DEAN, THANK YOU FOR THE, YOU KNOW, VERY DETAILED, THOUGHTFUL PRESENTATION.

I THINK THE, THE PLAN IS, IS ON POINT AND MAKES A LOT OF SENSE BASED ON FACTORS TODAY.

UM, I DO HAVE, UH, A QUESTION ABOUT, I GUESS WE DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL IN FRONT OF US.

THIS IS THE 2025 TO 2050 PLAN.

UM, DO YOU FORESEE UPDATES IN THIS PLAN BETWEEN NOW AND 2050, AND THEN WE'RE DOING A RECEIVING FILE, WE'RE NOT APPROVING THE PLAN.

SO THIS IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE PLAN, OR IS THIS A PLAN THAT NEEDS TO GO TO COUNCIL OR, RIGHT.

UH, SO FOR OVERALL APPROVAL, YEAH, TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION OF, UH, THIS IS PLANNING LOOKING FORWARD THROUGH 2050, BUT THE LAST TIME WE ACTUALLY DID OUR WATER RESOURCES PLAN WAS BACK IN 2019, AND WE DO FULLY ANTICIPATE TO UPDATE THIS PRIOR TO 2050, UM, AS MORE INFORMATION COMES FORTH, RIGHT? UM, I ANTICIPATE CERTAIN DECISIONS BEING MADE ON THE METROPOLITAN PURE WATER PROJECT.

ONCE WE HAVE THAT, WE CAN EVALUATE THAT AND KIND OF SEE HOW, OR IF THAT, THAT CHANGES OUR, OUR LONG TERM, UM, UH, PATHWAY.

AND SO, YES, ABSOLUTELY, WE WILL REEVALUATE THIS AS WE GET MORE INFORMATION TO YOUR SECOND QUESTION OF, UH, THIS IS, UH, ESSENTIALLY A DIRECTION, UH, FOR, UH, OUR, FOR STAFF TO, TO, YOU KNOW, ENGAGE IN, UH, AGAIN, TO POINT TO LELA'S EFFORT.

THIS GIVES US DIRECTION.

WHAT SUPPLIES DO WE EVEN START INVESTIGATING? FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T TOUCH ON LET'S SAY DESALINATION, BUT, UM, THIS WOULD BE AN INDICATION THAT, OKAY, WE HAVE OTHER PROJECTS TO START, UH, INVESTIGATING IN, IN, IN EARNEST VERSUS, UH, OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE MAY HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO PURSUE, BUT, UH, ARE LESS PRIORITIZED.

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THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

AND I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THAT, UM, PLAN DIRECTION, UH, SUPPORT WHERE WE'RE GOING.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UH, JUST REAL QUICK, THE, UH, POSTERS, I, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY'S GOTTEN A CHANCE TO SEE THOSE, UH, IN THE, WHAT DO WE CALL THAT? THE, THAT ROOM? UM, THOSE ARE FANTASTIC.

UH, I'VE BEEN, I THINK HERE NOW THREE YEARS OR SO, AND THOSE ARE ABOUT AS SIMPLE AND STRAIGHTFORWARD AND GRAPHICALLY, UH, EASY TO UNDERSTAND AND DIGEST.

UM, JESSE AND JOY, UH, AMAZING, REALLY GOOD.

UM, UH, MY FAMILY'S GOT, UH, CANADIAN THANKSGIVING COMING UP IN A COUPLE WEEKS.

AND THEN FOLLOWING THAT, WE ALL HAVE REGULAR THANKSGIVING HERE, AND I, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE COPIES OF THAT TO SHOW, UH, MY, MY MOM-IN-LAW AND MY OWN MOTHER, UH, IT, IT'S SIMPLE ENOUGH FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND IT, AND, AND IT SHOWS THEM THE, THE GREAT WORK, UH, OF, OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.

IT WOULD, IT WOULD MAKE GREAT, UH, THANKSGIVING CHATTER FOR ME.

SO IF IT'S POSSIBLE FOR, UH, FOR US TO, YOU COULD PROVIDE EACH OF THE BOARD MEMBERS WITH MAYBE DIGITAL PDF COPIES OF, OF EACH OF THOSE.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I REALLY CAN'T THANK THE PUBLIC AFFAIRS TEAM ENOUGH.

'CAUSE YEAH, I LIKE, TO YOUR POINT, UM, THEY'RE VERY WELL COMMUNICATED AND I, I COULDN'T DO THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING WE DID DO IN-HOUSE.

SO VERY PROUD OF THAT.

VERY GOOD, VERY GOOD.

I I ACTUALLY QUESTIONED WHERE THEY CAME FROM BECAUSE THEY, THEY'RE HIGHLY PROFESSIONAL AND, AND VERY WELL DONE.

SO, YEAH, VERY GOOD.

AND IT HELPS ME TELL A MUCH BETTER STORY, UH, WITH THOSE, THOSE GRAPHIC DESIGNS.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ANYTHING ELSE? YES, JUST AS A FOLLOW UP, THANK YOU.

AND SAID, UM, EXCELLENT JOB.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE VISUALLY ATTRACTIVE, THEY'RE VERY INFORMATIVE.

UM, CAN WE AT SOME POINT POSSIBLY USE THOSE, I KNOW YOU TAKE THEM OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT LIKE RANCHO LOS CERRITOS WHO DID, UH, A LITTLE AREA ON, UH, WATER A FEW MONTHS AGO, UH, AND ALSO RANCHO LOS ALAMITOS IS VERY INTERESTED IN THAT.

CAN WE DUPLICATE THOSE AND MAYBE ALLOW PEOPLE TO USE THEM AND PUT THEM SOMEWHERE WHERE WE CAN HAVE A FOCUS? ABSOLUTELY.

AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE, UM, CREDIT TO OUR CONSULTANT AS WELL.

'CAUSE PART OF, YOU KNOW, THIS SCOPE OF THIS WAS MAKING SURE THAT AT THE END OF THIS PLAN, WE HAD SOMETHING THAT WAS COMMUN, UH, ABLE TO BE COMMUNICATED TO THE PUBLIC.

UM, AND SO THAT'S WHY ALL THIS EFFORT HAS GONE TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, THE POSTERS THAT, UH, PUBLIC AFFAIRS PUT TOGETHER IS THE THOUGHT THAT WE DO WANT THIS TO, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE, UNTIL WE HAVE A NEW PLAN OR UPDATED PLAN TO BE WHAT WE CAN COMMUNICATE TO THE PUBLIC.

GREAT.

SO YES, SO MUCH THIS, THESE GRAPHICS AND ITERATIONS OF THESE GRAPHICS ABSOLUTELY CAN MAKE THOSE AVAILABLE.

AND THAT, AND THAT IS THE INTENTION.

ALRIGHT, WE'VE GOT A, UH, MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? NONE OPPOSED.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, DEAN.

DON'T GO ANYWHERE.

ITEM NUMBER 16.

[16. 26-56153 Recommendation to authorize the General Manager to execute an Agreement and all necessary documents, including any amendments, with the City of Signal Hill for the delivery of groundwater pumped by the Long Beach Public Utilities Department to the City of Signal Hill.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation.  ]

UM, SPEAKING OF THE FUTURE, AUTHORIZE THE GENERAL MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT AND ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS, INCLUDING ANY AMENDMENTS WITH THE CITY OF SIGNAL HILL FOR THE DELIVERY OF GROUNDWATER PUMPED BY THE LONG BEACH PUBLIC UTILITIES DEPARTMENT TO THE CITY OF SIGNAL HILL.

MAY PLEASE HAVE A MOTION.

THANK YOU ON A SECOND.

UH, DEAN, PLEASE LEAD US IN THE PRESENTATION.

YOU AND GOOD MORNING AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS.

SO, UH, THIS ITEM BEFORE THE BOARD REALLY REPRESENTS A MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO LONG BEACH UTILITIES.

IT PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO GENERATE ADDITIONAL REVENUE, UH, WHICH WILL THEREBY REDUCE THE COST TO OUR, UH, EXISTING CUSTOMERS.

FOR THE CITY OF SIGNAL HILL, IT REPRESENTS OP OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO OFFSET THEIR IMPORTED WATER USE, UM, WITH A LESS EXPENSIVE WATER SOURCE.

IT'LL ALSO HELP THEM TO UTILIZE THEIR CURRENTLY UNDERUTILIZED WATER RIGHTS, SIMILAR TO, TO HOW WE HAVE UNDERUTILIZED WATER RIGHTS, UH, SIGNAL HA HILL HAS THOSE AS WELL, AND WE'RE HELPING THEM TO FULLY UTILIZE OR MORE FULLY UTILIZE THEIR, UH, WATER RIGHTS FOR THE REGION.

THIS REPRESENTS A BENEFIT AGAINST THE BACKDROP OF, OF THE, THE ISSUES WITH THE COLORADO RIVER AND STATE WATER PROJECT.

THIS ALLOWS, UH, LESS IMPORT WATER TO BE USED REGIONALLY FREEING THAT UP FOR THOSE THAT DON'T HAVE ALTERNATIVES TO OTHER SUPPLIES.

UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, A BENEFIT TO, UH, THE METROPOLITAN MEMBER AGENCY FAMILY, UH, BUT THEN ALSO A BENEFIT TO THE WATER REPLENISHMENT DISTRICT AND THE PUMPERS IN THAT COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THAT REPRESENTS MORE PUMPING FROM THE BASIN, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THE BASIN IS THE STATE OF REALLY MANAGED.

AND SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS MORE PUMPING IS MORE REVENUE FOR THE PUMPING COMMUNITY.

AND, AND SIMILARLY, THAT SPREADS THE COSTS OUT FOR ALL THE OTHER PUMPERS, KEEPING THE REPLENISHED, UH, ASSESSMENT LOWER FOR EVERYBODY ELSE AS WELL.

SO, BENEFITS ALL AROUND THE PROPOSED INTERCONNECTION LOCATION.

UH, WE'RE, WE'RE SOMEWHERE HERE ON THIS MAP RIGHT NOW, SOMEWHERE IN THIS

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BUILDING, BUT JUST DOWN THE STREET, UM, IN RESERVOIR PARK IS WHERE THE INTERCONNECTION WOULD BE.

UH, THAT, THAT ROUND BUILDING THAT YOU'LL SEE IS, UH, THE SIGNAL HILL, UH, RESERVOIR, UH, FROM WHICH THEY, THEY TAKE WATER AND THEN PUMP UP THE HILL TO SIGNAL HILL.

UH, AND SO THE PROPOSED INTERCONNECTION IS ALREADY IN EXISTENCE.

UM, THERE WOULD JUST BE SOME, UH, PERMITTING CHANGES NEEDED TO UTILIZE THAT AS AN INTERCONNECTION.

AND I, I GUESS I FORGOT TO, UH, THANK, UH, THOMAS, UH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, PRIOR TO, TO HIM COMING TO LONG BEACH UTILITIES, UH, HE, HE WORKED AT SIGNAL HILL, AND SO THIS AGREEMENT WOULDN'T HAVE COME TOGETHER WITHOUT HIS KNOWLEDGE, UH, OF THEIR SYSTEM AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR PRIORITIES AND, UH, HOW TO MAKE THIS WORK.

AND SO, UH, THANK YOU TO THOMAS AND, AND HIS HELP ON THIS AGREEMENT.

SO THE, THERE ARE KEY PROPOSED TERMS OF AGREEMENT.

UH, I MENTIONED EARLIER THIS WILL BE UTILIZING SIGNAL HILL GROUNDWATER RIGHTS.

WE'RE NOT USING, UH, LONG BEACH'S GROUNDWATER RIGHTS.

UM, WHEN WE PUMP THIS WATER TO THE GROUND, UH, ACCOUNTING WISE WITH WATER REPLENISHMENT DISTRICT, THIS WILL DEDUCT FROM SIGNAL HILLS, UH, GROUNDWATER RIGHTS.

SO WE'RE NOT SELLING THEM OUR WATER, WE'RE SELLING THEM, UH, ESSENTIALLY HELPING THEM TO UTILIZE THEIR OWN WATER.

UH, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE OF DELIVERY OR PURCHASE.

UM, NO, NO COMMITMENTS ON EITHER SIDE.

THIS IS, UM, UH, UH, AGREEMENT OF CONVENIENCE AND, UH, MUTUAL BENEFIT.

WE'RE REALLY JUST TRYING TO HELP EACH OTHER OUT, AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO, UM, OBLIGATE, UH, SIGNAL HILL TO NECESSARILY BUY A CERTAIN AMOUNT EACH YEAR.

AND SIGNAL HILL IS, IS ALSO NOT EXPECTING US OR, OR REQUIRING US TO DELIVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT, UH, TO THEM EACH YEAR.

UH, SIGNAL HILL WILL CON, UH, CON, UH, CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THEIR IMPORT OR WATER SOURCE AS, UH, THE SOURCE THAT THEY NEED FOR THEIR RELIABILITY.

AND SO IF WE ARE UNABLE TO DELIVER WATER TO THEM FOR WHATEVER REASON, UH, THEY WILL STILL, UH, BE, UH, STILL HAVE A RELIABLE WATER SUPPLY.

AS FAR AS PRICING GOES, UH, AGAIN, THIS IS A MUTUAL BENEFIT.

UH, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO, UH, GET THE, THE, YOU KNOW, EVERY ABSOLUTE LAST DOLLAR FOR, FOR LONG BEACH TO THE DETRIMENT OF S HILL.

THE, THE CONCEPT HERE IS THAT WE'RE SHARING THE FINANCIAL BENEFITS OF THIS ARRANGEMENT.

AND SO THE WAY THAT THE PRICING FOR THIS AGREEMENT IS STRUCTURED IS THAT, UH, THERE'S A FLOOR FLOOR PRICE, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY OUR COST TO DELIVER GROUNDWATER.

AND THEN THERE'S A CEILING PRICE, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY SIGNAL ALTERNATIVE COSTS IF WE WEREN'T PROVIDING THEM THIS WATER.

AND SO, UH, THEY WILL BE SAVING AS MUCH ON THIS AGREEMENT AS WE'LL BE GENERATING REVENUE.

AND SO WE'RE SHARING THE FINANCIAL BENEFITS, AND, AND THAT'S THE, THE FORMULA THAT YOU'LL SEE ON, ON THE SCREEN IS ESSENTIALLY, UH, REPRESENTING THAT CONCEPT MATHEMATICALLY, UH, THOSE PRICES, UH, WILL BE ADJUSTED.

SO THE PRICES SHOWN ARE, ARE THE PRICES AS OF, YOU KNOW, CURRENT.

UH, BUT THOSE PRICES WILL BE ADJUSTED SEMI-ANNUALLY TO REFLECT CHANGES TO IMPORTED WATER COSTS AS METROPOLITAN RAISES THEIR RATES, UH, EACH YEAR, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, THE GROUNDWATER COSTS THAT THE REPLENISHMENT ASSESSMENT INCREASES EACH JULY.

AND THEN FINALLY, UH, OUR COST TO PRODUCE GROUNDWATER IS, UH, WILL BE TIED TO THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX.

AND SO WE'LL BE ADJUSTING OUR COSTS TO PRODUCE GROUNDWATER ANNUALLY.

AND SO THAT, THAT'S HOW WE WILL, UH, CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS ARRANGEMENT IS, UM, TO THE BENEFIT OF BOTH AGENCIES IN THE LONG RUN.

SO, YOU KNOW, TO, TO KIND OF JUST, UH, ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT AND THINK ABOUT THIS AGREEMENT AND, AND WHAT IT MEANS IN CONTEXT OF LONG BEACH AS A, A UTILITY AND, AND OUR OPPORTUNITIES WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, THE, THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE, EVEN THOUGH WE CAN'T SERVE THE WEST SIDE OF OUR CITY, THE EXISTING, UH, UH, STRUCTURE, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE TREATMENT PLANT WAS SIZE TO, UH, SERVE A MUCH LARGER CAPACITY.

YOU KNOW, UM, AT THE TIME, UH, DEMANDS WERE ACTUALLY INCREASING AND, YOU KNOW, THE FORECAST WAS THAT DEMANDS WOULD CONTINUE TO INCREASE.

AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY, WELL, NOBODY HAD A CRYSTAL BALL JUST TO SEE THAT, UH, SEVERAL YEARS LATER, OUR DEMANDS WOULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER.

AND SO WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE CAPACITY TO SERVE HIGHER DEMANDS, UM, AND AS CONSERVATION WILL CONTINUE TO DECREASE OUR CUSTOMER DEMANDS, UM, THAT WE, WE CAN FIND WAYS TO UTILIZE OUR EXISTING CAPACITY TO SERVE, UH, OTHER PURPOSES.

SO, UH, SURPLUS INFRASTRUCTURE CAPACITY IS ANTICIPATED TO, UH, CONTINUE TO BE AVAILABLE.

SO WITH THAT, THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO AUTHORIZE THE GENERAL MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT IN ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS, INCLUDING ANY AMENDMENTS WITH THE CITY OF SIGNAL HILL FOR THE DELIVERY OF GROUNDWATER, PUMPED BY THE LONG BEACH PUBLIC UTILITIES DEPARTMENT TO THE CITY OF SIGNAL HILL.

THAT CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION AND OPEN UP TO QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.

THANK YOU, DEAN.

ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? ANY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? I HAVE ONE QUESTION, DEAN.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, IN TERMS OF ACCOUNTING OF THE COST, THE COST OF DELIVERY, AND THEN THE COST FOR SINGLE HILL IMPORTED WATER,

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IS THIS ACCOUNTING THE SAME THAT'S DONE? LIKE WHEN METROPOLITAN WORKS WITH, OR LET'S JUST SAY THIS, AN AGENCY LIKE SAN DIEGO WORKS WITH, WITH ANOTHER AGENCY TO DELIVER WATER, OR WHEN THE IMPERIAL IRRIGATION DISTRICT WANTS TO MAKE A DEAL WITH MET, IS THIS THE WAY THEY DO THE ACCOUNTING, OR IS IT, WHERE DO WE, HOW DO WE COME UP? I KNOW WE COME UP WITH THE NUMBERS ON DELIVERY COSTS, BUT HOW DOES THAT THE OTHER COSTS COME INTO PLAY? YEAH, WELL, I'LL TAKE A STAB AT IT.

AND, AND ANIS HULK WEIGH IN AT DIFFERENTLY.

SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DELIVERY COSTS, SO METROPOLITAN HAS DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THEY CALCULATE THEIR, THEIR COST TO DELIVER WATER TO MEMBER AGENCIES AND, AND OTHER, UH, AGREEMENTS.

AND SO WE ARE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR ANALOGOUS IN THAT WHAT IS OUR COST TO DELIVER WATER, WHICH IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN METS COST TO DELIVER WATER, BUT WE FACTORED IN, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR, WELL CIP COSTS, UM, OUR POWER AND CHEMICAL AND LABOR COSTS TO, TO STAFF THE TREATMENT PLANT.

AND SO WE, WE FACTOR THAT INTO OUR OWN DELIVERY COSTS FOR, FOR GROUNDWATER.

AND THOSE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT WE CONSIDER INTO THAT, THAT BASELINE PRICE AND WHAT WILL BE ADJUSTED, UM, ANNUALLY, UH, TO, TO CONTINUE TO REFLECT OUR, OUR COSTS GOING FORWARD.

SO IT IS ANALOGOUS IN THAT SENSE OF A DELIVERY COST, UM, STRUCTURE.

OKAY.

I, I, THIS PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE, BUT I WANTED TO ASK BECAUSE LIKE SAN LIKE, UM, THE CRIT, THE COLORADO RIVER INDIAN TRIBE JUST DID A TRANSFER AND THEY'RE GETTING LIKE 518, UH, AN ACRE FOOT.

UM, I, ID HAS WANTED 900 AN ACRE FOOT, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE ELSE HAS, IS GETTING 300 AN ACRE FOOT.

I MEAN, HOW, WHY IS IT SO, SO MUCH DISPARITY? SO, WELL, SO, SO I THINK, UH, THE SECOND PART OF THAT ANSWER SHOULD HAVE BEEN, SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DELIVERY COST, THAT'S THE COST TO PHYSICALLY MOVE THE WATER, BUT THEN THERE'S A WATER SUPPLY COST SUPPLY, RIGHT? SO, SO THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PAYING FOR THE TRANSPORT OF THE WATER VERSUS THE, THE RIGHT OR THE, THE MOLECULES OF WATER THEMSELVES.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE SEEING THE VALUE OF, OF THE PHYSICAL WATER MOLECULES BEING DIFFERENT TO DIFFERENT GROUPS, UM, VERSUS THE, THE, THE QUESTION ON THE, THE DELIVERY AND THE TRANSPORTATION, THAT'S A MORE, I GUESS, UM, STRAIGHTFORWARD, YOU KNOW, COST-BASED COST.

OKAY.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S HELPFUL.

APPRECIATE THAT.

DEAN THOMAS.

THANK YOU.

THIS IS EXCITING.

I THINK THIS IS WHAT COMMISSIONER AUSTIN, I THINK BROUGHT UP A WHILE AGO ON HOW CAN WE PARTNER WITH OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES AND, AND SO THIS IS FANTASTIC, BUT MY QUESTION IS, DO WE HAVE, WE HAVE EXCESS PUMPING CAPACITY AND WE HAVE EXCESS CAPACITY AT THE TREATMENT PLANT, SO WE TRACK THAT COST WHEN WE PUMP THIS WATER, YOU SAID IT'S, WE'RE PUMPING THEIR WATER RIGHTS FROM ROL.

DOES THAT, DOES THAT, THEN AS PART OF THAT ACCOUNTING, THEY PAY THE WRD PUMPING TAX, CORRECT? WE DON'T PAY IT AND GET REIMBURSED.

THEY PAY IT DIRECT, CORRECT? YES.

SO, SO THERE'S AN ARRANGEMENT THAT WE'LL HAVE TO PAPERWORK WITH, UH, WRD THAT WE'LL HAVE TO FILL OUT TO RECOGNIZE THE, THIS ARRANGEMENT, AND THEN THE INVOICE WILL GO DIRECTLY TO, UM, SIGNAL HILL, AND THEN WE WOULD PUMP THAT WATER DIRECTLY TO RESERVOIR PARK.

IS THAT HOW THAT WORKS? AND THEN THEY DISTRIBUTE IT THROUGH THEIR SYSTEM.

IT WOULD GO TO OUR TREATMENT PLANT FOR TREATMENT, RIGHT? UH, AND THEN THAT'S WHERE TO THE, THE COSTS BAKED IN IS WE FACTOR INTO THOSE COSTS OF TREATMENT AND THEN DELIVERY, UM, OUT OF THE TREATMENT PLANT TO THEIR RESERVOIR, UH, PARK.

SO IT COMES FROM OUR TREATMENT PLANT TWO RESERVOIR.

YES.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UH, THANK YOU, DEAN.

VERY GOOD.

GOOD PRESENTATION.

THIS IS SUPER EXCITING.

UH, THIS IS A WIN NOT ONLY FOR LONG BEACH RESIDENTS AND RATE PAYERS, BUT A WIN FOR SIGNAL HILL, UH, RESIDENTS AND RATE PAYERS.

UH, AND IT'S, IT'S, I THINK ANYWHERE IN LIFE, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR A WIN-WIN, RIGHT? BUT THIS IS ALSO, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S A WIN-WIN WIN WHEN YOU FACTOR IN METROPOLITAN AND, AND THE, THE BURDEN THAT'S RELIEVED FROM, FROM THEIR, UH, OBLIGATIONS, UH, SUPPLYING IMPORTED WATER AND THEN THE, THE WATER REPLENISHMENT DISTRICT.

SO, I MEAN, IT'S A WIN-WIN, WIN, WIN.

UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A GREAT CONCEPT.

IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

THANKS TO YOU, THANKS TO THOMAS.

UM, AND THANKS TO OUR GENERAL MANAGER FOR, FOR HAVING THE, UH, INTESTINAL FORTITUDE TO DO SOMETHING UNIQUE AND A LITTLE INNOVATIVE, UH, AND NOT SHY AWAY FROM THIS.

UH, IT, IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE, UH, NOT ONLY ON PAPER, BUT IN PRACTICE.

AND, AND THANK YOU TO THE, TO ANTO FOR, FOR BEING WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, TO, TO PURSUE THIS.

THANK YOU.

UH, SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

UH, ANY OPPOSED? NONE OPPOSED.

THANK YOU, DEAN.

APPRECIATE IT.

UH, MOVING ON.

OUR LAST AND FINAL ITEM NUMBER 17, RECEIVE

[17. 26-56154 Recommendation to receive and file August 6, 2026 Infrastructure Committee Report.       Suggested Action: Approve recommendation. ]

AND FILE AUGUST 6TH, 2026.

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INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE REPORT.

MAY PLEASE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.

THANK YOU.

AND A SECOND.

SECOND, AND CALL ON CHAIR AL AUSTIN.

WELL, THANK YOU.

UH, IT SEEMS LIKE A LONG TIME AGO.

UM, ABOUT A MONTH.

UH, SO THE INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE MET ON AUGUST 6TH, 2026, FOLLOWING THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOARD OF UTILITIES COMMISSIONERS TO RECEIVE INFORMATIONAL PRESENTATIONS REGARDING PFAS, REGULATORY DEVELOPMENTS, MONITORING RESULTS, AND THE DEPARTMENT'S SEWER LATERAL CROSS BOARD INSPECTION PROGRAM.

SO ON PAS, THE COMMITTEE RECEIVED AND FILED A PRESENTATION, UM, ON FEDERAL AND STATE PAS REGULATORY DEVELOPMENTS, MONITORING RESULTS AND POTENTIAL IMPLICATIONS OF THE LONG BEACH PUBLIC UTILITIES DEPARTMENT.

UH, STAFF PROVIDED AN OVERVIEW OF THE DRINKING WATER REGULATORY PROCESS, INCLUDING THE ROLE OF THE US EPA IN ESTABLISHING NATIONAL DRINKING WATER STANDARDS AND THE STATE WATER RESOURCES CONTROLLED BOARD DIVISION OF DRINKING WATER, UM, AND ENFORCING AND ADOPTING ACTUALLY MORE STRINGENT STANDARDS FOR CALIFORNIA.

UM, MOVING ON, THE STAFF NOTED THAT, UM, THE CURRENT STATE MONITORING ORDERS REQUIRES MONITORING OF ALL WELLS, AND TO DATE, THERE HAVE BEEN NO DETECTIONS OF PFAS IN LONG BEACH WELLS, UH, WHICH IS GOOD NEWS.

UH, STAFF ALSO DISCUSSED, UH, LONG-TERM IMPLICATIONS OF PFAS AND CENTRAL AND WEST COAST GROUNDWATER BASINS, INCLUDING REGIONAL PAS MITIGATION, UH, TREATMENT OPTIONS, AND IMPORTANT PLANNING FOR, UH, FUTURE TREATMENT NEEDS.

UM, STAFF ALSO PROVIDED AN UPDATE ON THE WATER REPLENISHMENT DISTRICT'S REGIONAL PFAS REMEDIATION PROGRAM, INCLUDING THE EXISTING CAPITAL FUNDING PROGRAM AND ONGOING DISCUSSIONS REGARDING POTENTIAL FUNDING FOR LONG-TERM OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE COSTS.

UM, SWITCHING GEARS.

UH, SO PAS OBVIOUSLY WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT AND, AND, UM, UM, IT'S A, A BIG, BIG ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO, TO LOOK AT MOVING FORWARD LONG TERM.

THE COMMITTEE ALSO RECEIVED AND FILED A PRESENTATION ON THE SEWER LATERAL CROSS BOARD INSPECTION PROGRAM.

STAFF EXPLAINED THAT CROSSBAR BORE OCCURS WHEN UNDERGROUND UTILITIES INTERSECT, INCLUDING INSTANCES WHERE GAS SERVICE LINES CROSSES THROUGH SEWER LATERAL, A SEWER LATERAL.

UH, STAFF EXPLAINED, UH, AND DESCRIBED PUBLIC SAFETY RISK ASSOCIATED WITH CROSS BOARDS, INCLUDING SEWER BLOCKAGES, PROPERTY DAMAGE, GAS LEAKS, AND THE POTENTIAL FOR SERIOUS INJURY OR FATALITY IF A GAS LINE IS DAMAGED DURING SEWER CLEANING.

UH, SO IMPORTANT STUFF HERE.

UH, WE WENT OVER THE GIS MAPPING AND PROCESSES IN WHICH THIS CROSSBAR, UM, OCCURS.

AND, UM, DURING THE DISCUSSION, THE COMMITTEE ASKED QUESTIONS REGARDING THE NUMBER OF, UH, REMAINING INSPECTIONS, HOW PRIORITY AREAS ARE IDENTIFIED, UH, WHETHER INSPECTIONS ARE PERFORMED EFFICIENTLY BY NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND, UM, THE TIMELINE FOR COMPETING THE REMAINING WORK, UM, WAS VERY, VERY INFORMATIVE.

UH, THERE WAS NO PUBLIC COMMENT IN THE RECEIPT.

THE COMMITTEE RECEIVED AND FILED BOTH PRESENTATIONS.

I WANNA ALSO THANK, UH, STAFF, TY AND DEAN FOR, FOR GREAT PRESENTATIONS, AND I THINK I MIGHT BE MISSING SOMEONE, BUT, UH, IT WAS VERY, VERY INFORMATIVE AND PRODUCTIVE COMMITTEE AND, UH, REQUEST YOUR RECEIVING FILE APPROVAL.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UH, ANY PUBLIC? UH, DID I ALREADY ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS? I'LL ASK AGAIN, ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT, PERFECT.

ANY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? GREAT.

UH, THANK YOU, CHAIR AUSTIN.

UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TO RECEIVING FILE, SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? NONE OPPOSED.

THANK YOU.

UH, PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS NOW OPEN.

[PUBLIC COMMENT Opportunity to address the Utilities Commission on non-agenda items. Each speaker is limited to three minutes to make their comments unless extended by the Board.]

IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON A NON AGENDA ITEM? ALL RIGHT.

SEEING NONE PUBLIC COMMENT, PERIOD IS NOW CLOSED.

AND ANNOUNCEMENTS,

[ANNOUNCEMENTS]

NO ANNOUNCEMENTS.

ANNOUNCEMENTS.

JUST VERY BRIEFLY.

UM, IT'S PRESIDENT SCOTT'S LAST MEETING, UM, AND WE WON'T FORGET THAT AS WE MOVE INTO OUR NEXT MEETING IS WHEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO SHARE HOW MUCH WE'VE APPRECIATED YOUR EFFORTS AND YOUR DILIGENCE IN SHARING THIS BOARD AND THIS MEETING.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? YES, SIR.

UM, JUST I'D LIKE TO THANK TONY AND THE STAFF FOR THE RETREAT, I THINK, UM, INTO THAT, UM, A ROBERT ADRIAN HERNANDEZ AND, AND I LEARNED A LOT.

I MEAN, IT WAS, IT WAS GOOD UNTIL ROBERT LEFT AND THEN WE STOPPED LEARNING STUFF.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, NO, IT WAS REALLY GOOD.

APPRECIATE IT.

UM, ALSO, UM, AT SOME POINT I'D LIKE THE GENERAL MANAGER, MAYBE THE DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY, A RETREAT, I MEAN, KNOW A CLOSED SESSION ON BIXBY HILL IN THE ONGOING LITIGATION.

WHAT'S GOING ON THERE? I'M CALLING IT FORT BIXBY WITH THE FENCE AND THE

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CONSTANTINE WIRE THERE ON THE BIKE PATH.

YES.

WHEN MAYBE WE COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT TOPIC YES.

TO, YES, TO THE CLOSED SESSION.

NOT TO WHAT YOU TITLED IT.

OKAY.

EXACTLY.

ALRIGHT.

AND THEN ALSO I THANK PRESIDENT SCOTT FOR HIS LEADERSHIP, AND NEXT WEEK OR NEXT MEETING WE GET TO SAY MORE, BUT JUST A GREAT JOB.

THANK YOU PUBLICLY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? UM, UH, I JUST HAVE ONE REGARDING THE UPCOMING, UH, UPCOMING COMMUNICATIONS COMMITTEE MEETING.

I KNOW WE'VE BEEN HERE TWO HOURS, BUT IT'S, IT'S BEEN A GREAT MEETING, UH, EXPECTING A LITTLE BIT MORE FROM THE COMMUNICATIONS COMMITTEE MEETING.

SO, UH, EVERYONE'S WELCOME TO ATTEND THAT.

UH, THAT BEING SAID, WE ARE NOW AJOUR.