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ADVISORY COMMISSION EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE TO ORDER AT, UH, EIGHT 30.UH, SO THANK YOU ALL FOR ARRIVING AT EIGHT 30 IN THE MORNING.
WE'LL DISCUSS LATER MEETING STARTS, MAYBE, UH, A LITTLE LATER IN THIS, IN THIS MEETING.
UM, AS I WAS SAYING, MY SPARKLING PERSONALITY IS HARD TO BURN OUT AT EIGHT 30
SO WE'LL MAYBE, UM, ASK FOR YOU TO ACCOMMODATE THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
UM, I'D LIKE TO CALL FOR A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
THEN WE'LL BEGIN WITH OUR REGULAR AGENDA, WHICH IS A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION EXECUTIVE MEETING.
UM, UM, THE, THE RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVED AND, UM, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE SECOND ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.
YOU WANNA, DO YOU WANNA DO A VOTE JUST BECAUSE, JUST SAY ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
THE RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVED.
AND THEN MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS A RECOMMENDATION TO DISCUSS AND REVIEW FUTURE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION AGENDA ITEMS. SO MOVED.
SO I'LL, UH, OPEN THE CONVERSATION AND THE DISCUSSION TO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS FOR THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION.
AND THEN ATTACHED IS YES ON YOURS? YES, I SAW THAT.
SO, UM, AND THIS IS A DRAFT, OR THIS IS IT.
LOOKING AT AGENDA ITEM TWO FOR A REGULAR AGENDA.
WILL THAT BE THE SAME PRESENTATION WE HEARD AT, UM, COUNCILWOMAN, UH, DUGAN'S PRESENTATION? SO, WILL THAT, WHO WILL BE PRESENTING? UH, THAT WILL BE LUIS VALDEZ.
HE'S THE, UH, THE OFFICER IN, UH, EMERGENCY, UH, PREPARATION, EXCUSE ME.
DISASTER PREPARATION AND EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS.
UM, WELL, THEY DO A WHOLE, THEY'LL DO A WHOLE REVIEW OF WHAT'S, WHAT'S HAPPENED, AND HE'S GOING TO, HE'S GONNA TALK ABOUT, UH, BASICALLY THE WHAT THAT THAT BUREAU DOES, OR THAT, EXCUSE ME, THAT DEPARTMENT, UH, WHAT DESERVES THE DISASTER OPERATIONS COMMUNICATIONS.
UH, AND THEN HE, WE'RE TRYING TO SECURE SOMEONE FROM THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TO COME IN.
UH, OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE A LOT ON THEIR PLATE RIGHT NOW.
SO, UM, WE'RE SEEING, UH, IF WE CAN GET A KIND OF A, A BRIEF FORECAST FROM, FROM ONE OF THEIR ANALYSTS, BUT HE'LL DISCUSS WHAT THEIR GROUP DOES, UH, WHAT THE RAMIFICATIONS, WHAT EL NINO MEANS FOR THE COASTAL AREAS AS WELL AS THE CITY, CITY IN GENERAL.
UH, WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE EL NINO IS NOT JUST GONNA AFFECT OUR COASTAL AREAS.
IT'S GONNA AFFECT THE ENTIRE CITY WITH POTENTIAL FOR TORRENTIAL RAIN.
UH, SO BASICALLY LOUIS LUIS WILL BE, UH, WITH US JUST TO KIND OF DISCUSS WHAT THEIR PREPARATIONS ARE, UH, WAYS THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN PREPARE, UH, THEMSELVES, THE WAY THE CITY IS PREPARING, AND, UH, SOME REALLY, REALLY GOOD INFORMATION ON HOW TO STAY INFORMED AND HOW TO, UH, COMMUNICATE WITH THE CITY.
WILL THIS BE REVIEWED A PART OF WHAT'S ALREADY HAPPENED? OR IS THAT'S GONNA BE IN THE MANAGER'S REPORTS? UH, THAT'LL BE IN THE MANAGER REPORT.
WHERE, WHERE WE'VE BEEN, WHERE WE'RE GOING FROM A MARINE BUREAU STANDPOINT.
UM, AND ALSO FROM A MARINE BUREAU STANDPOINT, WOULD, UM, THIS PARTICULAR PRESENTATION HAVE SOME, I DON'T KNOW, HOT TIPS FOR BOATERS AND FOLKS WHO, UH, RECREATE IN OUR MARINAS AND ALONG OUR BEACHES? UH, YEAH.
WE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE MARINES SHOULD BE COMING OUT HERE PRETTY SOON.
THAT'LL HAVE SOME TIPS IN IT AS WELL.
UM, BUT, UH, YES, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL TOUCH BASE, BASICALLY WHAT, UM, LUIS WILL BE TALKING ABOUT IS GOOD FOR VOTERS AS WELL.
IT'S JUST A REALLY, REALLY GOOD PRESENTATION ABOUT HOW THE CITY COMMUNICATES DURING THE EMERGENCY AND HOW TO, UH, GET INFORMATION DURING AN EMERGENCY BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER SIX.
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AND AS, AS WE DO COME INTO INCLEMENT WEATHER, UH, WE SEND OUT NOTICES TO ALL OF THE VOTERS, YOU KNOW, SHUT HATCHES, CHECK, CHECK COVERS, CHECK LINES.LIKE ALL, ALL THAT TYPE OF STUFF.
AND THEN IF THERE'S ELEVATED SURF OR CONDITIONS OUT IN THE WATERFRONT THAT WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC FOR BUILDING, UH, WE DO SEND OUT, LIKE, NO, YOU KNOW, BULLETINS AND, AND FORECAST THAT.
THAT SHOW THAT, THAT TYPE OF WEATHER OUT THERE.
SO THAT'S JUST STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE THEN, RIGHT? YEAH.
UM, AND I WAS IN THE ROOM THAT EVENING.
SO, UM, IT WAS A, A REALLY GREAT PRESENTATION.
I WAS IMPRESSED BY THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WERE IN THE ROOM.
SO IT WAS A LOT, CLEARLY, UM, A MESSAGE RESONATING IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST AND REMIND OTHERS THAT, UM, I HAD, UM, SUGGESTED THAT WE INVITE MEL NUTTER MM-HMM
FORMER CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSIONER TO OUR MEETING ON THE EIGHTH.
I'D LIKE TO ADD HIM TO THIS AGENDA BECAUSE IT IS THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE COASTAL ACT.
UM, AND HE HAS A SHORT PRESENTATION HE CAN SHARE, UM, IN PARTICULAR, AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MAY NOT KNOW THIS, UH, BUT THE COASTAL ACT IS 50 YEARS OLD, AND THE FIRST CERTIFIED LOCAL COASTAL PLAN IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA CAME FROM THE CITY OF LONG BEACH, WAS A HUGE COMMUNITY EVENT.
I MEAN, THERE WERE LIKE 30 PEOPLE ON THIS COMMITTEE WHO WERE GIVEN THE TASK OF CREATING A LOCAL COASTAL PLAN TO BE IN, UH, CONFORMITY WITH THE STATE'S COASTAL ACT TO BRING THE CONTROL OF, UH, THE LONG BEACH COASTAL ZONE WITHIN THE CARE AND CONTROL OF THE CITY OF LONG BEACH, AS OPPOSED TO THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
THERE ARE STILL CITIES TODAY, BY THE WAY, LIKE MALIBU, SHALL WE SAY, WHO HAVE CHOSEN NOT TO IMPLEMENT A LOCAL COASTAL PLAN.
SO ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS WITHIN THEIR COASTAL AREA, AND IT'S A HUGE AREA, IF YOU CAN IMAGINE, EVERY DECISION GOES TO THE COASTAL COMMISSION AFTER MOVING THROUGH THEIR PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO IT'S A, A VERY, I DUNNO, ONEROUS SYSTEM.
WHEREAS LONG BEACH TOOK CONTROL OF THAT WHOLE DECISION MAKING PROCESS, UM, SOON AFTER THE COASTAL ACT WAS ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED.
SO, BUT THE FIRST CERTIFIED THAT IS GOING THROUGH THE COASTAL COMMISSIONS PROCESS AND BEING, UM, APPROVED AND AUTHORIZED MM-HMM
UM, WILL HE REVIEW WHAT'S GOING UP AND DOWN THE COAST RIGHT NOW, BASICALLY? NO, NO, NO.
HE SHOULD, HE SHOULD EXPECT IT THOUGH, BECAUSE THERE'S, ONCE IT COMES OUT THAT HE'S GONNA BE HERE, YOU CAN EXPECT PEOPLE WILL COME OUT.
SO HE'S NO LONGER AFFILIATED WITH NO, NO, NO.
HE'S LONG RETIRED, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POLICY, HAS NOTHING TO DO ACTIVELY.
HE'S NO LONGER AN ATTORNEY PRACTICING.
SO, UM, HIS PERSPECTIVE IS MERELY TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF HIS OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCES, UM, AS THE, AS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO'S INVOLVED IN THE, UM, CITIZENS CAMPAIGN TO BRING THE COASTAL ACT TO OUR BALLOT.
IT WAS A BALLOT MEASURE BACK IN THE EARLY 1970S.
OUR, NOT TO BORE YOU, BUT OUR LEGISLATURE COULD NOT GET THIS PASSED.
SO IT BECAME A CITIZEN'S, UM, IN INITIATIVE.
SO HE WAS AN EARLY, UH, ADVOCATE, UH, AS AN JUST A PERSON LIVING IN LONG BEACH, UM, AND THEN APPOINTED TO EARLIER VERSIONS OF THE COASTAL COMMISSION, THE REGIONAL COASTAL COMMISSIONS, AND THEN EVENTUALLY APPOINTED TO THE COASTAL COMMISSION AT THE STATE LEVEL.
THE BIG DEAL THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SORT OF JUST BROUGHT FORWARD IS THAT HERE'S AN INDIVIDUAL FOR OVER 50 YEARS WHO'S BEEN INVOLVED IN LONG BEACH, UM, AND HAS SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THE COASTAL ACT.
AND HE HAS SOME AMAZING ANECDOTES.
I DON'T WANNA SPOIL ANYTHING, BUT HE'S A REALLY GREAT STORYTELLER.
SO, UH, SO JUST BE PREPARED TO HAVE A LITTLE, UH, ENTERTAINMENT AS WELL.
UM, AND THINGS THAT JUST AS RESIDENTS OF LONG BEACH, YOU KNOW, AND SEE AND WONDER, WELL, GEE, HOW DID, HOW DID THAT GET BUILT?
WILL, WILL IT BE A VERBAL PRESENTATION? YES, IT WILL.
UM, MY UNDERSTANDING HE'S NOT, HE'S NOT GOING TO DO, UM, A, UM, YEAH.
I, I DON'T THINK HE'S DOING A POWERPOINT.
MAYBE YOU COULD HAVE SOME OF HIS BIO IN OUR, IN OUR PACKET IN ADVANCE WOULD BE NICE.
IF YOU CAN GET A, A BIO AND MAYBE A HEADSHOT AND WE CAN PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER WHILE HE'S SPEAKING.
AND I'VE TOLD HIM JUST 15 MINUTES.
YOU KNOW, HE'S A, HE'S A VERY, UM, HE'S A VERY GOOD STORYTELLER.
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UM, BUT IT GOES TO THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE COASTAL ACT.UM, AND I WOULD ASK IF WE COULD ACCOMMODATE HIM IN SOME WAY, IN THE SENSE THAT HE'S A, HE'S AN ELDERLY GENTLEMAN, AND TO HAVE HIM STANDING MIGHT NOT BE THE MOST COMFORTABLE THING FOR HIM TO DO.
WHEN I HEAR HE IS A VERY GOOD STORYTELLER.
SO, UM, THOSE BAR STOOLS WORK BEHIND THE LECTURE AND AT SEAL BEACH.
YOU CAN JUST PUT IT RIGHT THERE IN ADVANCE, AND THEN ANYONE THAT NEEDS IT CAN USE IT.
AND THAT'S JUST ACCOMMODATING ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS.
AND, AND I'M SURE YOU RECOGNIZE HIM.
HE HAS ATTENDED A COUPLE OF OUR MAC MEETINGS IN THE PAST AS WELL.
SO, ANYWAY, SO THAT'S, UM, THE MAIN ISSUE FOR THE NEXT WEEK'S, UM, AGENDA.
UM, WE'LL TALK AFTER A SECOND.
I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF HOW TO, HOW TO PHRASE, PHRASE IT ON OUR AGENDA.
SO RECOGNITION AND RECOGNITION AND PRESENTATION.
RECOGNITION OF A PRESENTATION BY MEL NUTTER OF AN ORAL PRESENTATION.
ON THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE COASTAL OHIO 50TH ANNIVERSARY.
HE'S DOING A LOT OF THESE THINGS RIGHT NOW, BY THE WAY, UP IN LA COUNTY.
COULD WE DO IT AS HIS CERTIFICATE TO HIM AND RECOGNITION OF THAT? WE COULD, AND THEN WE CAN MAKE THE CERTIFICATE PRESENTATION.
AND THAT'S A NICE WAY TO THEN, IF WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE HIM TO CLOSE HIS PRESENTATION, THAT THEN THAT GIVES YOU THE CHANCE TO STEP UP WITH THE CERTIFICATE.
HE KNOWS HOW TO CONTROL HIS, UM, HIS YEAH.
MOVING ENTHUSIASM GETS IN ALL OF OUR WAY
UM, SO THAT WAS ONE RECOMMENDATION FOR NEXT WEEK'S, UM, AGENDA IN GENERAL, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, AND I'LL SORT OF JUST START, YOU KNOW, SPEAKING TO THE QUESTION OF WHAT THE CITY'S, UH, LONGER TERM SOLUTIONS WILL BE FOR PENINSULA, UM, PENINSULA BEACH, AND THE NOTION THAT, UM, SUDDENLY, YOU KNOW, UH, ROCK REVETMENTS ARE THE LONGER TERM SOLUTION AFTER SAM BYPASSING, FIRST DREDGING, UH, A LARGER AND, UH, LARGER QUANTITIES OF SAND TO BE DEPOSITED ON THE BEACH IN PREPARATION FOR THE DREDGING.
AND THEN STANDARD SANDBAG, UH, BACK PASSING.
WHICH HAS BEEN THE CITY'S SOLUTION TO SAND EROSION, BEACH EROSION.
UH, BUT APPARENTLY WE'RE LOOKING AT THE HARDENING OF THE BEACH HARDENING ARMORING OF THE COAST, UM, WITH, AND THE, WHAT I HEARD AND HAVE READ IN THE, UM, CITY'S PENINSULA PLAN IS THE NOTION OF GET READY FOR IT DUNE RESTORATION.
AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS, SOME OF US LOUDER AND WORK CONSISTENTLY THAN OTHERS WHEN IT COMES TO SOLUTIONS TO KEEPING THE SAND ON THE BEACH ONCE IT'S DEPOSITED.
BECAUSE THE MOMENT IT'S THERE, IT'S MOVING WEST.
AND THE NOTION OF INVITING SOMEONE TO SPEAK TO US ABOUT HOW DO RESTORATION PROJECTS ARE INITIATED, WHAT DO THEY, ARE YOU, HOW ARE THEY ORGANIZED? HOW MUCH DO THEY COST? YEAH.
UM, THE CITY DID INVESTIGATE THIS.
I THINK YOU'VE MENTIONED IN THE PAST, TODD, HOWEVER, THE ASSESSMENT WAS THAT THAT BEACH WAS MUCH TOO NARROW FOR A, UH, DUNE RESTORATION.
AND NOW WITH A MUCH BROADER, MAYBE NOT AS BROAD AS THEY HAD HOPED, BEACH, WE SHALL SEE.
UM, GIVEN THE FACT THAT THEY'RE NOT, THEY DON'T HAVE A BEACH TO START WITH.
UM, WHO DO WE CALL? HOW DO WE GET THIS INITIATED? I WOULD LIKE TO START, UM, BRINGING THIS INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC.
I THINK THIS IS A ROLE THAT THE MARINA ADVISORY COMMISSION CAN EASILY BRING, UM, INTO THE, INTO THE COMMUNITY.
UM, I DON'T SEE IT AS, UM, CHRISTINA DUGGAN'S RESPONSIBILITY, AND I DON'T SEE NECESSARILY, UH, TOM MOCA'S OFFICE AND HIS FOLKS REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO TALK MORE ABOUT DUNE RESTORATION IN THE CITY OF LONG BEACH.
CERTAINLY THERE HAVE BEEN SOME PILOT PROJECTS AND OTHERS THAT I THINK IT'S A FAIR ASSESSMENT.
WERE MORE OF A LANDSCAPING SOLUTION THAN AS A, UM, A HABITAT AND, UM, SAND MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, WHICH IS WHAT DUNE, UH, DUNE LANDSCAPING IS ALL ABOUT.
SO, WITH THAT AS A INTRODUCTION, WHO DO WE CALL AND HOW DO WE GET A CONVERSATION STARTED? MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU HAVE SOME CONTACTS IN THE SANTA MONICA BAY FOUNDATION.
UM, THEY DO A LOT OF REALLY GOOD WORK.
WELL, THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE, THE TRUE PILOT PROJECTS
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THAT HAVE BEEN GOING UP AND DOWN THE COAST.UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC CONTACTS.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THEY WERE NEVER RETURNED.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T CALL SOMEBODY UP AND SAY, HEY, I'M FROM THE CITY OF LONG BEACH.
WE'D LIKE TO HAVE YOU COME AND SPEAK TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT SURE.
UM, COULD I ASK SOMEONE WITHIN THE MARINE BUREAU TO TAKE THIS ON AND BECOME, I'VE MET WITH TOM FORD BEFORE YEAH.
SO I CAN, I CAN, AND I'VE WORKED WITH OTHER PEOPLE FROM THE BAY FOUNDATION.
I'LL, I CAN REACH OUT AND SEE IF WE CAN GET A CONVERSATION STARTED.
I MEAN, YOU HEARD IT ALL, YOU KNOW, THAT EVENING, UM, THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION FROM MOFFITT AND NICKEL.
THAT IS THE, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THE CITY SEES FORWARD GO GOING FORWARD AND SEES AS A WAY OF, OF MANAGING THAT BEACH AND KEEPING IT AESTHETICALLY PLEASING, I WOULD SAY, BECAUSE, UM, ROCKS IN FRONT OF YOUR HOME IS MAYBE NOT WHAT YOU SIGNED UP FOR WHEN YOU BOUGHT A BEACHSIDE HOUSE IN LONG BEACH.
SO I, I'D LIKE TO PUT THAT AT THE TOP OF A PRIORITY.
ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS FOR AGENDA ITEMS AS WE MOVE AHEAD? I THINK THE CONSOLIDATION OF THE COMMITTEES IS ENOUGH OF AN ISSUE THAT THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE TIME THAT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING WE CAN ADDITIONALLY ADD THE NEXT TIME TO THE MEETING.
AND, UM, I MEAN, WE DID HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT, UM, MOVING OUR COMMITTEE MEETING BUSINESS.
I SAID AS ONE WAY TO PUT IT TO THE GENERAL AGENDA FOR THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION AS A WAY OF SAVING SOME TIME, STAFF TIME, SORT OF, UM, CONSOLIDATING OUR RESOURCES.
UM, AND ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS ON THAT SUBJECT? I, I THINK THAT'S A SMART WAY TO GO, MADAM CHAIR, IN THE SENSE OF TIME'S COMING UP, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK, UH, AND BE ABLE TO TALK.
IT SHOULD BE PART OF OUR GENERAL MEETING.
I MEAN, IF WE'RE, DO A
SO, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN AT THE UPCOMING MEETING.
IF WE'RE DOING A
UM, SO, AND THE OVERALL, I THINK THE OVERALL, UM, OBJECTIVE IS TO, TO, UM, USE OUR CITY STAFF'S RESOURCES IN A MORE INFORMED WAY AND A MORE, UM, UM, EFFECTIVE WAY.
UM, AND I THINK HAVING THESE KINDS OF, THIS KIND OF COMMUNICATION AT THE MAC MEETING MEANS THAT WHEN MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTEND A MAC MEETING, THEY'RE GOING TO GET THIS INFORMATION AS OPPOSED TO SCHEDULING AN HOUR BEFORE TO COME TO A, UM, A SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING.
SO, MADAM CHAIR, SAME WITH FINANCE, SAME WITH MAINTENANCE.
IT ALL GETS REVIEWED DURING OUR MEETING.
SO WHY HAVE MEETINGS BEFOREHAND AND HAVE STAFF THERE AN HOUR AND A HALF BEFORE? I AGREE.
THE MEETING LASTS ANOTHER 45 MINUTES.
WELL, AT LEAST IT'S WITHIN THAT TIME ZONE.
AND THAT PRIOR, BECAUSE YOUR SETUP TIME, ALL THAT, IT'S JUST, UH, YEAH.
UM, AND WE HAD, UM, AN ITEM, UH, IN, IN OUR CONVERSATION LAST TIME, WHICH WAS MEETING PLACES FOR THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION.
AND I NOTICED THAT IT'S THE CLB GI CLUB THIS MONTH.
UM, HAS THERE BEEN ANY OTHER SORT OF CONVERSATION OR ACTIVITIES WITH RESPECT TO REGULAR MEETINGS FOR THE MAC AND KEEPING US IN ONE PLACE? LONG BEACH IS GONNA BE REDOING THEIR YACHT CLUB FROM WHEN I WENT OVER THERE.
AND THEY DON'T PICKET EVERY, EVERY DAY THERE.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT IS ON A, A CERTAIN TIME WHEN THEY COME IN AND THEY'LL HAVE FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT WILL PEAK PICKETING.
UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW WHEN THE LIGHT YACHT CLUB CLOSES, I HAVE NO IDEA.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE A MEMBER OF THE YACHT CLUB, SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE CLOSING, THEY'RE STILL IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE CITY TO LOOK AT THE RESCOPE.
SO, SO WE DO HAVE AN MOU TO UTILIZE LONG BEACH YACHT CLUB FOR OR AT NO COST.
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OFF.WELL, IT'S LONG BEEN, WE GAVE THEM A, A TRASHING CLOSURE.
SO THE MOU AGREEMENT ALLOWS US TO UTILIZE SPACE IN THERE WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL COST MOVING FORWARD.
UH, IF WE GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, IT'S, WE DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, CLB CHALK CLUB IS KIND ENOUGH TO OFFER THEIR, THEIR FACILITY WHEN IT'S AVAILABLE.
UM, UH, BIXBY PARK AND COMMUNITY RECREATION PARK, UH, THOSE TWO LOCATIONS, WE DO PAY A FEE.
UH, WE HAVE TO PAY STAFF COSTS TO, UH, COST RECOVERY TO, UH, COMMUNITY RECREATION SERVICES.
SO REALLY, IT'S AT YOUR DISCRETION AS THE CHAIR WHERE WE MEET.
UH, THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, SOME CONSTRICTIONS TO THAT OR, BUT, UH, YOU KNOWS.
SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL ASK A QUESTION.
I I, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST SORT OF PROBING HERE.
SO, WHEN, LET'S SAY THE, UM, PARKS REC AND MARINE COMMISSION MEETS, WHERE DO THEY MEET? THEY MEET AT EL DORADO, UH, UH, EL DORADO PARK.
AND THEY'RE PAYING FOR THE USE OF THE SPACE AT EL DORADO PARK.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT FACILITY'S OPEN WHEN THEY ARE THERE, SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY, BUT IT, AND THAT'S WHEN THEIR HEADQUARTERS IS TOO.
IT'S RIGHT THERE, IT'S RIGHT WHERE RAMS SHACK WAS.
BUT THE A THE ASK IS, IS THERE A FEE FOR THE USE OF THE SPACE THAT THE, I'M NOT CERTAIN.
BUT I WOULD ASSUME NO, BECAUSE THE FACILITY IS ALREADY OPENED TO ACCESS AN ALL DAY, UH, SENIOR CENTER COMMUNITY CENTER, WHEREAS THE FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO ARE NOT OPEN, UH, TO RIGHT, EXACTLY.
SO, UM, I BROUGHT FORWARD THE, THE USE OF THE CONSERVATION CORPS MEETINGS SPACE OFF THE CONFERENCE ROOM ADJACENT TO THE THIRD DISTRICT FIELD OFFICE.
AND SO WHAT WOULD THE STATUS OF THAT SPACE BE? WE CHECKED ON THAT.
WE LOOKED INTO IT, AND IT'S JUST NOT SUITABLE TO FIT THE NEEDS OF WHAT WE NEED.
SO, AND WHAT WOULD THAT BE? WHAT IS THE CRITERIA? THE CRITERIA IS AUDIO, VISUAL PARKING, UH, AND THEN, UH, JUST A SPACE THAT CAN BE READILY TURNED INTO AND REPOSITIONED INTO A, A MEETING SPACE.
IT'S ROUTINELY USED AS A MEETING SPACE, WELL, A COMMISSION MEETING SPACE WHERE YOU HAVE A DAIS, YOU HAVE YOUR COMMISSIONERS, AND THEN YOU HAVE A PUBLIC AREA.
WHEREAS THAT ROOM IS MORE SET UP AS A CONFERENCE ROOM.
UM, WELL, I, I'M GONNA TAKE ISSUE WITH THE PARKING 'CAUSE THE PARKING IS FABULOUS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
SO THERE'S PLENTY OF PUBLIC PARKING THERE.
UM, AND GIVEN THE FACT THAT IT IS A PUBLIC BUILDING AND IT IS OPEN BECAUSE IT IS ADJACENT TO THE THIRD DISTRICT FIELD OFFICE, IS THERE A FEE TO USE THAT ROOM? UH, AT THIS TIME, I'M, I'M NOT CERTAIN.
WE'D HAVE TO CHECK WITH THE CONSERVATION COURT.
I'D LIKE TO PURSUE THIS, AND I'M, I'M GONNA PRESS IT BECAUSE IT IS IN AN IDEAL LOCATION.
IT IS WITHIN THE THIRD DISTRICT.
IT IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO, UM, AN AREA THAT IS ABSOLUTELY APPROPRIATE FOR, UH, THE MARINE BUREAU, THE MARINE STADIUM, AND COLORADO LAGOON.
UM, IF THERE'S SOME WAY, ONCE A MONTH TO TURN THAT CONFERENCE ROOM, AND IT'S A LARGE ROOM INTO A SPACE THAT COULD BE UTILIZED FOR COMMISSION, ISN'T IT? YOU KNOW, SHOULDN'T WE PURSUE THAT GIVEN THE COSTS, GIVEN THE, THE NOTION OF MEETING IN A PLACE THAT'S THAT, AND I'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MEETING SPACE FOR THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION THAT IS SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE AREA OF THE FOOTPRINT OF THE MARINE BUREAU.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE LIMITED RIGHT.
IN, IN TERMS OF USING PRIVATE SPACES FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE.
AND THESE HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY YACHT CLUBS OR OTHER SPACES THAT ARE WITHIN THE THIRD DISTRICT.
UM, CAN I HAVE SOME FEEDBACK ON THIS? DOES ANYONE I'VE BEEN THERE, SUBMIT THIS? I'VE BEEN THERE.
SO IT COULD IT WORK? IT'S SMALL.
IT DEPENDS ON HOW LARGE OF A CROWD WE'D HAVE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF THE YACHT CLUBS.
I THINK THEY SHOULD BE CHARGING, I THINK THEY SHOULD REVIEW THE ENTIRE YACHT CLUB FOOTPRINT, UH, AND PAY MONEY THAT THEY SHOULD BE PAYING.
IT'S JUST SILLY THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT OPEN TO EVERYBODY.
UM, AND IF WE'RE NOT GONNA USE IT ANYMORE, WE SHOULD PUT THAT A PART OF OUR MOVING FORWARD AND SAYING, WELL CHARGE THEM MORE.
AND IF THIS IS A PUBLIC ACCESS AND CHAIRWOMAN, I, WE, WE CAN GO BY.
I'D LOVE TO GO BY AGAIN AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
I MEAN, IF IT'S LARGE ENOUGH, I'VE ONLY BEEN
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THERE ONE TIME, BUT I DON'T KNOW.IT WAS, IT WAS MANY YEARS AGO.
WELL, AND I, I, AND I AM TOTALLY WITH YOU ON THE QUESTION OF YACHT CLUBS.
THEY'RE PRIVATE CLUBS AND, UM, THE NOTION OF ACCESS AND, UM, JUST THE PERCEPTION OF ACCESS FOR PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO COME TO A, UM, A COMMUNITY MEETING, UM, IN A PUBLIC SPACE IS IMPORTANT.
AND, AND, AND I WAS JUST GONNA FOLLOW UP.
MY, MY COMMENT WAS THERE WAS GOING TO BE SOME APPROACH TO THE THIRD DISTRICT, UM, TO NICK IN PARTICULAR, TO ASK ABOUT THE USE OF THAT ROOM AS IT'S ADJACENT TO THE THIRD DISTRICT FIELD OFFICE THROUGH A DOORWAY.
AND THE IDEA THAT THEY OFTEN USE THAT CONFERENCE ROOM FOR POTENTIALLY, I GUESS, STAFF MEETINGS OR OTHER THIRD DISTRICT BUSINESS, WHICH I THINK IS A, A LEGITIMATE CONCERN.
WE DON'T WANT TO, LET'S SAY, UH, MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO DO THEIR BUSINESS ON A ROUTINE BASIS IN THAT ROOM.
UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S A BIG STRETCH TO ASK FOR IT ONCE A MONTH FOR THREE HOURS.
SO THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM.
UH, I WAS JUST GONNA TOUCH BASE ON THE, THE, THE PRIVATE YACHT CLUBS AND THE FACT THAT YOU USED A GREAT WORD THERE AS A PERCEPTION, AND BY THESE YACHT CLUBS, THEY ARE ON CITY PROPERTY THAT'S LEASED TO THEM TO OPERATE.
BUT THEY BRING PEOPLE TO THE WATER.
THEY BRING NEW VOTERS TO THE WATER.
UH, THEY, THEY ACTIVATE OUR WATER WASTE.
AND SO, UM, I DO HAVE TO TAKE EXCEPTION TO THE, TO THE COMMON CENTER HERE IN THE FACT THAT THEY ARE TREMENDOUS PARTNERS.
THEY DO GREAT WORK IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THEY, THEY ACTIVATE AND BRING, ACTIVATE OUR WATERWAYS.
THEY TEACH YOUTH HOW TO SAIL, AND THEY CREATE LIFELONG BOATERS.
THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR OUR MARINA.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR OUR COAST.
UM, SO YOU SAID PERCEPTION AND HAVING A PUBLIC MEETING AT THESE YACHT CLUBS HELPS TO TRANSFORM THAT PERCEPTION A LITTLE BIT.
SO WHEN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A FACILITY WHERE PEOPLE HAVE A PERCEPTION THAT IT'S PRIVATE AND THEY CANNOT GO TO, YOU HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING THERE AND SOMEONE WHO'S NEVER BEEN THERE BEFORE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO IN AND LOOK AROUND.
AND SO, UM, HAVING A PUBLIC MEETING IN THESE SPACES, WHILE YES, THEY ARE PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS WITH CLUB MEMBERSHIP, HAVING A PRIVATE, HAVING A PUBLIC MEETING THERE CAN, YOU KNOW, OPEN A DOOR FOR SOMEONE THAT WOULD NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS OTHERWISE THINK, OH, HEY, I COULD BE A MEMBER OF EOC CLUB.
AND MADAM CHAIR, UH, COMMISSIONER CARLIN, I THINK AT THE LAST MEETING SAYS THAT SHE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM AS LONG AS NO ONE'S OUT PICKETING IN THE FRONT.
SO, I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S THE REASON I HEARD THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, IT WAS SHUT DOWN.
AND, AND IF IT'S FREE
YOU KNOW, AND IT'S, UH, AND I, AND I, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE NOTION OF THE MISSION OF YACHT CLUBS AND THE USE OF PUBLIC LAND FOR A PRIVATE USE, UH, OR FOR A PRIVATE ENTITY USING PUBLIC LAND.
UM, I THINK WE HAVE SOME OTHER OPTIONS.
AND IF WE DIDN'T, I, I WOULDN'T PRESS THIS QUITE THE WAY THAT I AM.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT CONFERENCE ROOM AT THE CONSERVATION CORPS HAS SERVED FOUR PUBLIC MEETINGS ROUTINELY.
AND THE THIRD DISTRICT USES THAT MEETING SPACE FOR, FOR INSTANCE, CHRISTINA DUGGAN'S, UM, PEER, UH, COMMITTEE.
THAT SHE'S HAVING ROUTINELY, WE DON'T HAVE 50 PEOPLE COME TO A COMMISSION MEETING FOR THE MAC.
UM, AND WHEN WE ANTICIPATE A MEETING THAT MIGHT HAVE 50 PEOPLE, THEN I SUSPECT WE HAVE OTHER OPTIONS FOR A MEETING SPACE THAT COULD BE UTILIZED.
BUT ON A ROUTINE BASIS FOR THE BUSINESS THAT WE'RE HANDLING ON A MONTHLY BASIS, HALF A DOZEN PEOPLE ATTEND.
COULD SOME FURNITURE BE SHIFTED IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE MAC? THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
AND I SUSPECT THAT IT'S FREE BECAUSE IT IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO, UM, IT IS A PUBLIC BUILDING NEXT DOOR TO THE THIRD DISTRICT COUNCIL PERSON'S FIELD OFFICE.
UM, LET'S CHECK, LET'S JUST CHECK.
YEAH, LET'S JUST DO, MOVE FORWARD AND CHECK IF, IF YOU WOULD TAKE THAT ON TODD, I WOULD APPRECIATE VERY MUCH.
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OR I'LL MAKE SOME TELEPHONE CALLS.I, I KNOW NICK, I CAN CALL HIM UP AND ASK HIM MORE ABOUT THIS.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS ABOUT YACHT CLUBS, BECAUSE THAT WAS MY WORLD AS A YOUNG PERSON GROWING UP, AND MANY OF YOU DO KNOW THIS, BUT I WAS A SMALL BOAT HANDLING INSTRUCTOR ON NEWPORT BAY FOR DECADES.
THAT'S HOW I GOT STARTED IN SMALL BOATS.
I'LL MEET YOU AT FOUR O'CLOCK IN A SABBATH ANY AFTERNOON.
UM, THE IDEA THAT PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THAT THE YACHT CLUBS PROVIDE A SERVICE, AND THEY DO INTRODUCE THE, THE SPORT AQUATIC SPORTS TO THE COMMUNITY IS VERY IMPORTANT.
THE PERCEPTION OF A PERSON WALKING INTO THESE VERY FANCY BUILDINGS FOR A PUBLIC PERS PURPOSE IS ANOTHER, ANOTHER ELEMENT THAT I THINK WE NEED TO OVERCOME.
AND BY SIMPLY MEETING IN A PUBLIC NEED, PUBLIC BUILDING FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE IS REALLY MY, MY GOAL NOT TO DENIGRATE THE PURPOSE OF YACHT CLUBS IN OUR COMMUNITY, UM, OR THE, THE GOOD WORK THAT THEY DO IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER PLACES IN THE, THIS AREA OF LONG BEACH THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE A PUBLIC MEETING THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY FOR? I MEAN, BUNCH OF GREAT BRAINS SITTING AROUND A TABLE AT NINE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.
I WOULDN'T CHARGE AND COME TO MY OFFICE.
UM, I JUST, PIERPOINT LANDING HAS A MEETING SPACE.
WE'VE HAD A MEETING THERE FOR THE MAC.
UM, WHAT ABOUT THE ROOM ADJACENT TO, UM, FIRE STATION EIGHT OH, FIRE STATION.
I KNOW HOW TO GET IN THERE TOO.
I MEAN, THE OLD MUSEUM, JUST THE, THE BUILDING RIGHT THERE AT THE, WHERE THE FIRE STATION IS.
THAT WAS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BACK IN THE DAY ON SECOND STREET.
WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO THE FIRE STATION BUILDING THAT'S NOW 14? IT'S EMPTY TODAY.
THEY'LL STILL HAVE A PARAMEDIC OUTTA THERE.
THERE'S AREN'T THERE, ISN'T THERE A LIFEGUARD BUILDING THAT HAS A ROOM BIG, BIG ENOUGH SOMEWHERE AT THE LIBRARY? DOES THE LIBRARY, I MEAN, THEY CLOSE IT A CERTAIN TIME.
PARKING IS NOT IDEAL DOWN THERE.
NO, THERE'S NO, IT'S A HUNDRED DOLLAR PARKING TICKET NOW TOO.
SO, SO I, I'M BACK TO THE LIFEGUARDS.
I MEAN, THEY HAVE ROOMS, DON'T THEY? THEY HAVE.
WHAT ABOUT THE LIFEGUARD BUILDING DOWN ON, UH, ON THE BEACH? THAT BIG ONE, THAT'S, THERE'S NOT MUCH IN THE GARAGE USE.
THE GIRL SCOUTS LEASE THAT, THAT WHOLE PROPERTY FROM THE CITY TOO.
AND THEY GOT A BEAUTIFUL SETUP UP IN THERE.
LET'S LOOK AT MOTHER'S, MOTHER'S BEACH.
THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD, 'CAUSE THERE'S PARKING RIGHT THERE.
SO WHAT BUILDING ON MOTHER'S BEACH? THE, THE LIFEGUARD STATION CONCESSION BUILDING.
ALSO HAS LIKE A, A, IT'S LIKE A TRAINING CLASSROOM THAT OKAY.
BY CARDS UTILIZE, I'M LIKING THAT.
AND IT COULD BE SET UP FOR PRESENTATIONS MM-HMM
AND A LARGE CROWD OF PEOPLE POTENTIALLY.
I MEAN, I'M THINKING THERE'S GOTTA BE MEETINGS WHEN, YOU KNOW, CITY EMPLOYEES ARE COMING TOGETHER FOR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, STAFF MEETINGS OR OPERATIONAL MEETINGS OR WHATEVER.
THERE HAS TO BE THIS SPACE LARGE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE A LOT OF TIMES IN THE, IN THE MARINE BUREAU MEETINGS, WE ARE, WE ARE PRIMING INTO, INTO THIS SPACE, LIKE SHOULDER TO SHOULDER, STANDING AROUND OR DOWNTOWN IN THE OFFICE.
IT'S JUST EVERYONE'S STANDING AROUND IN THE BULLPEN.
WE DON'T HAVE, OR WE MEET OUTSIDE
'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES REQUIRE.
UM, SO I, I'M ASKING THAT WE JUST BE CREATIVE AND, AND THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT HAVE LED TO MOVING AWAY FROM THE LONG BEACH YACHT CLUB IN, IN VARIOUS SHAPES AND FORMS. THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A TIME WHEN THIS NEEDED TO BE MADE, A DECISION NEEDED TO BE MADE.
THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME CIRCUMSTANCES THAT SORT OF LED TO THIS POINT, BUT THE NOTION THAT WE COULD BE DOING BETTER, I THINK IN TERMS OF MEETING IN A PUBLIC SPACE AND NOT IN A PRIVATE SPACE, UM, THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO OTHERWISE PAY FOR.
SO YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE CHURCHES RIGHT THERE TOO IN BELMONT SHORE THAT ALWAYS OPEN THEIR DOORS.
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ALAM DOES.UH, AND THEY DON'T EVEN CHARGE, I MEAN, IT'S CHARGE FOR LIGHTS OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
AS LONG AS THE TEAM COMES IN AND PUTS SOME CHAIRS OUT AND PUTS 'EM BACK DOWN.
I'D HAVE TO SEE IF THEY HAVE A BIG, I MEAN, IT'S A, IT'S A BIG ROOM.
IT'S, IT'S LIKE A MINI REC PARK.
I'D HAVE TO, I'M NOT SURE IF A COMMISSION, A CITY COMMISSION CAN MEET, YOU KNOW, CHURCH.
DO YOU REMEMBER THAT SPACE THAT USED TO BE DOWN BY THE PIER BEFORE THEY KNOCKED DOWN THE OLD PIER? THERE USED TO BE A MEETING ROOM.
DO YOU REMEMBER? YOU'D WALK DOWN THE, THAT, UH, FORGIVE ME THAT IT WAS THE OLD RESTAURANT, THE OPPA RESTAURANT, AND THEN YOU'D GO UP SOME STAIRS AND OH, YES.
THAT'S PLACE, THAT WAS A GREAT PLACE.
COULD MEET AT THE END OF THE PIER.
LET'S MEET AT THE END OF THE PIER.
WELL, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE A CUTE SPACE AT THE END OF THE PIER.
AH, IT'S NOT HANDICAPPED ACCESSIBLE, BECAUSE YOU GOTTA WALK UP THOSE STEPS.
UM, SO ON THIS CONVERSATION AND THIS TOPIC THEN LET'S, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME MORE DEFINITIVE INFORMATION ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR USING THE CONSERVATION CORPS BUILDING ONCE A MONTH FOR THREE HOURS, I DON'T THINK IS A BIG ASK.
AND THE NOTION THAT SOME CERTAIN, CERTAINLY SOME FURNITURE MAY NEED TO BE, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY MOVED.
BUT, UM, TURNING IT IN AND USING IT AS A MEETING SPACE IS NOT BEYOND THE, THE NOTION OF POSSIBILITY.
UH, AND IT'S FREE, I PRESUME, BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC SPACE IN A PUBLIC BUILDING ADJACENT TO, UM, AND IT'S WALKING DISTANCE OF THE CONSTITUENTS OF THAT AREA THAT HAVE ISSUES WITH THE MARINE.
AND THERE'S PLENTY OF PARKING.
I'M NOT SO CERTAIN IT'S A PUBLIC SPACE.
IT'S THE CONSERVATION COURSE PROPERTY.
BUT THAT ROOM IS THE CONSERVATION COURT.
THEY'RE NOT AFFILIATED WITH THE CITY OF LONG, LIKE THEY WORK
UM, LET'S SEE WHAT THEY MIGHT SAY.
IF WE WERE TO, UH, TRY TO GET SOME MORE DEFINITIVE INFORMATION ABOUT THE USE OF THIS SPACE FOR THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ATTENDING OUR MEETINGS THESE DAYS, THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT.
AND IN THE EVENT WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S, UH, WITH AN AGENDA ITEM THAT'S MUCH MORE, UM, GATHER INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY YES.
THEN WE COULD POTENTIALLY USE ANOTHER RULE.
OR IF IT WAS AN EVENING MEETING, THAT WOULD DRAW MORE FOLKS.
SO ENOUGH ON THAT SUBJECT, I GUESS.
ANY OTHER TOPICS THAT WE'VE REVIEWED IN THE PAST THAT MIGHT WANT TO BE DISCUSSED TODAY? I, I WOULD THEN I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WITH THE PARKING.
WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IT IN A WHILE.
I MEAN, ALL THOSE HOMES THAT ARE BEING BUILT, ALL THOSE APARTMENTS ARE BEING BUILT, IS GONNA GENERATE 5,000 PARKING SPACES.
WHERE ARE THEY GONNA GO WHEN THEIR GUESTS COME OVER? THEY'RE GONNA COME OVER TO THESE LOTS AND THEY'RE GONNA PARK IN THE LOTS THAT ARE FREE.
SO, I MEAN, I'D LOVE LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE CITY, UH, WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO ON PARKING.
WELL, I, I CAN MAKE ONE COMMENT, WHICH IS THOSE PARKING SPOTS AREN'T GOING TO BE FREE FOR MUCH LONGER.
SO IT'S GONNA BE PAID PARKING.
IN THE SENSE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, FIRST COME FIRST, SURE.
IF YOU WANT TO COME TO THE MARINA TO GO OUT FOR DINNER OR PARK YOUR CAR, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RATES ARE.
IF THERE ARE EVEN OVERNIGHT PARKING WOULD BE ALLOWED FOR THE PAY PAY SPACES IN THE FUTURE.
I'M MAKING THIS UP, BUT THE SENSE IS THAT, UH, PARKING WILL BE INTRODUCED AS A WAY OF OFFSETTING THE, UM, INTEREST ON THE BOND FOR THE, THE POOL.
SO, UM, YEAH, I THINK IT'S A VALID QUESTION.
IT JUST, IT, IT'D BE NICE TO KNOW BECAUSE THEY, IT FIRST CAME TO US AND WE SHUT IT DOWN, AND NOW THEY'RE JUST GONNA IMPLEMENT 'CAUSE IT WAS ALREADY PASSED BY THE CITY WITHOUT COMING TO US.
AGAIN, IT GOES BACK, WHY ARE WE HERE? YEAH.
WHY IS THIS, WHY ARE WE EVEN HERE? THEY DON'T LISTEN TO US.
I MEAN, THEY DON'T, WE'RE JUST AN ADVISORY GROUP, BUT THEY DO THINGS WITHOUT, WITHOUT EVEN BRINGING IT TO OUR ATTENTION.
I'M UNCLEAR ON THE TOP OF THE AGENDA THAT IT CAUSES A SPECIAL MEETING.
UM, I SAW THAT BECAUSE ANYTIME, 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT LONG BEACH YACHT CLUB.
THAT'S WHERE ALL OUR MEETINGS
OH, BECAUSE OF THE VENUE? CORRECT.
AND ANYTHING OUT OF THAT IS, IS DESIGNATED A SPECIAL MEETING.
WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO, IN THE EVENT WE MAKE A DECISION NOT TO USE THE LONG BEACH YACHT CLUB CLUB ANYMORE? UM, DO WE HAVE AN THAT WOULD BE, I AM NOT SURE EITHER, BUT I COULD, YEAH, I COULD CHECK IT.
IT'S NOT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO, WE JUST HAVE TO FIND A PLACE THAT THAT IS WHERE WE'RE CAN HANDLE EXACTLY.
AS OPPOSED TO A REVOLVING EXACTLY.
REVOLVING, UM, UH, UH, FACILITIES FOR OUR MEETINGS.
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DOES THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION PLAY IN TERMS OF DEALING WITH THE CITY'S, UH, IDEAS ABOUT, UH, PAY PARKING IN AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN TRADITIONALLY FREE? RIGHT.WELL, YOU JUST, BELMONT SHORE, THEIR PARKING GOES TO WHERE BELMONT SHORE, UH, THIS PARKING WILL GO WHERE? WELL, PROBABLY THAT'S DEFINITELY NOT PAYING THE BOND.
IT'S ACTUALLY NOT PAYING THE BOND.
THE PARKING LOT FEES ARE GOING TO PAY FOR THE OPERATIONS OF THE BELMONT POOL.
SO, UH OH, THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I HAD HEARD.
MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THE, THE CITY HAS AN OBLIGATION ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO PAY INTEREST ON THE BOND.
AND THEN THAT WILL BE THE, AND REVENUE FOR THAT INTEREST WILL COME FROM THE FEES FROM THE MARINA PARKING LOTS? IT COULD POSSIBLY BE BOTH.
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, UH, TO OFFSET THE HIGHER OPERATIONAL COSTS OF THIS NEW FACILITY THAT IS GONNA BE UTILIZED, UH, BY PARKING AS WELL.
I DID NOT KNOW THAT, UH, THAT HAD BEEN, UH, BROUGHT UP BY CHRISTINA DUGGAN IN ONE OF HER LI PEER MEETINGS.
THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE BOND FEES WOULD BE PAID FOR OUT OF THE PARKING AREA.
SO, UM, WE'LL, I GUESS WE'LL WAIT TO SEE.
IT COULD BE EXPENSIVE PARKING, ISN'T IT? YEAH.
WHAT ARE WE $3 AN HOUR DOWN ON SECOND STREET? YEAH.
I, I DON'T THINK IT'LL BE, IT COULD BE.
UH, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE THAT IT WILL, YOU KNOW, THE PARKING STUDY IS GOING THROUGH THE ELBOW SEASON RIGHT NOW.
THEY'RE GETTING THE NU THE NUMBER COUNTS FOR THE FALL SEASON.
WE'RE ALREADY DONE COLLECT THE INFORMATION FOR THE SUMMER.
UH, ONCE WE HAVE THAT AND THAT THE NEW, UH, STUDY IS COMPLETE, THAT'S WHEN THEY'RE GONNA COME OUT TO THE MAIN ADVISORY COMMISSION AND, AND PRESENT ON NEXT STEPS.
WILL THEY STILL LOOK AT THE CONTRACTS THAT THEY HAVE AT ALL THE RESTAURANTS AND THOSE AREAS THAT THEY HAVE? 'CAUSE LAST TIME WE LOOKED AT THAT, THERE'S NO PARKING LEFT.
SO I'M JUST SURPRISED THAT I, I THINK THEY'RE JUST GONNA IMPLEMENT.
SO THE KEY ELEMENT OF A LOT OF THOSE LEASES IS NOT EXCLUSIVE PARKING.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAVE TO WORK WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
WE HAVE TO WORK WITH PUBLIC WORKS.
WE HAVE TO WORK WITH, UH, WITH THE LEASE HOLDERS AND JUST FIND A, A PATHWAY FOR THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY.
AND WE WILL, IT WORKS, IT WORKS IN OTHER COASTAL COMMUNITIES.
WE'RE ONE OF THE ONLY, IF NOT THE ONLY, UH, COASTAL, LARGE SCALE COASTAL PARKING AREA THAT IS NOT PAID PARKING.
BUT WE'RE, WE'RE COMING INTO A, AN ERA WHERE YOU SEE IT, YOU CAN LOOK OUT THE WINDOWS RIGHT NOW, AND YOU CAN SEE IT COMING, IS WE'RE GONNA HAVE UPWARDS OF 2,500 TO, YOU KNOW, 5,000 VEHICLES, 5,000, UH, NEW VEHICLES.
AND THE, THE, THE NEW APARTMENTS, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT 2,500 APARTMENTS.
THEY'RE LIKE, IT'S ONE PARKING SPACE PER APARTMENT, I BELIEVE MM-HMM
SO WHERE ALL THEIR FRIENDS AND FAMILY GO PARK.
SO IT'S ESSENTIAL THAT WE GET A PARKING MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IN PLACE.
WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IS STILL HAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION TO GO.
BUT IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT WE GET A PARKING MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IN BASINS ONE, TWO, AND THREE BEFORE ALL OF THESE, UH, DEVELOPMENTS ARE COMPLETE.
AND THAT IT'S, IT'S CRITICAL FOR ACCESS TO THE MARINA FOR OUR BOATERS AND FOR THE MARINA USERS, MADAM CHAIR, WITH THE COST OF EVERYTHING THAT'S MOVING FORWARD.
AND IT SEEMS DURING THE YEAR, WE GIVE EVERYBODY FREE RIDES ON PARKING, FREE RIDES, ON, UH, BOW TIE UPS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
ARE WE GONNA LOOK DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE OF OUR BUDGET DEFICIT AND SAY, WE'LL CUT IT IN HALF INSTEAD OF EVERYTHING FREIGHT? YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION THIS MORNING, I THOUGHT ABOUT THE SORT OF THE AMENITIES THAT WE OFFER TO YACHT CLUBS WHEN THEY SPONSOR A LARGE, UM, UM, WEEKEND OF RACING.
AND THE, THE IDEA THAT THE MARINE BUREAU IN THE PAST HAS AND HAS BEEN VERY, UM, AMENABLE TO CUTTING THESE FEES FOR VISITORS THAT ARE COMING INTO LONG BEACH TO VISIT AND GO RACING.
AND IN THE BACK OF MY MIND, AS I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT, IT'S BEEN A VERY, IT'S A SIGN OF HOSPITALITY.
AND IT'S THE NOTION THAT IF THOSE MEMBERS OF FOR FOREIGN OTHER YACHT CLUBS COME TO TOWN AND PARTICIPATE IN LONG
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BEACH, WHEN LONG BEACH YACHTERS GO TO OTHER PLACES, THEY'RE OFTEN GIVEN THE SAME HOSPITALITY.AND THEN I THOUGHT TO THIS MORNING, AS YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE MOVING INTO A DIFFERENT WORLD IN TERMS OF OUR BUDGET, WHEN I INVITE SOMEONE TO MY HOME AND I CAN'T ACCOMMODATE THEM, YOU KNOW, HAVE VISITORS COMING OUT OF TOWN GAS, MY HOUSE IS TOO SMALL, I'LL PUT THEM UP AT A HOTEL AND I PAY FOR THAT.
I'M THE PERSON HOSTING THE PARTY.
I WANT PEOPLE TO COME AND JOIN ME.
AND I WOULD THINK THAT THE YACHT CLUBS IN THE FUTURE, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT AGAIN, I WAS THINKING IN TERMS OF STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES THAT WE'VE BEEN SO ACCUSTOMED TO IN THE PAST AND HOW THAT MIGHT CHANGE IN THE FUTURE, IS TO MERELY ASK THE YACHT CLUBS TO OFFSET THEIR GUESTS EXPENSES.
THE MARINE BUREAU HAS A SET FEE SCHEDULE FOR VISITORS WHO COME TO USE, UM, THE DOCKS OR, YOU KNOW, TIE UP AND SUCH.
SHOULDN'T THE, THE FOLKS THAT ARE HOSTING THE PARTY AND INVITING THEIR GUESTS, BE THE FOLKS INVOLVED WITH OFFSETTING THE EXPENSES OF THEIR, THEIR GUESTS, WE CONTINUE TO CHARGE FOR OUR FEES.
WHO'S PAYING THOSE FEES? MIGHT BE THE HOSTING YACHT CLUB AND NOT THE INDIVIDUALS OF THE PUBLIC WHO COME TO USE THOSE TAB JUST A DIFFERENT WAY OF LOOKING AT DOING BUSINESS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
WE'RE NOT BEING RUDE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT BEING INHOSPITABLE.
WE'RE SIMPLY SAYING, WE HAVE FEES THAT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR.
YOU'RE HOSTING A PARTY, PAY FOR YOUR GUESTS, LONG BEACH YACHT CLUB, ALAMEDAS YACHT CLUB, SEAL BEACH YACHT CLUB.
YOU HAVE GUESTS COMING TO, TO TOWN.
YOU PAY FOR THEIR EXPENSES AND PAY US THE CITY OF LONG BEACH FOR ACCOMMODATING THEM.
SO TO THAT POINT, RIGHT? YES MA'AM.
HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE CHANGE OUR MINDSET? WE'RE NOT BEING, UM, INHOSPITABLE INHOSPITABLE, BUT WE ARE RECOGNIZING THAT WE ARE EVEN THESE SMALL GESTURES.
AND WE DO KNOW THAT THEY'RE SMALL GESTURES, A COUPLE OF THOUSAND DOLLARS OVER THE COURSE OF A COUPLE OF DAYS.
NEVERTHELESS, THESE ARE EXPENSES THAT, UM, WE'RE GIVING UP.
THIS BUDGET NEEDS TO RECOGNIZE, UM, SHOULD BE HANDLED IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
SO, UM, THAT WAS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE THINGS I MIGHT, I WAS GONNA BRING UP WITH YOU THIS MORNING, IS TO POTENTIALLY CHANGE OUR MINDSET WITH THE WAY WE GIVE UP FEES.
NOW, IF IT WERE A NONPROFIT HOSTING SOME EVENT FOR, YOU KNOW, KIDS UNDERPRIVILEGED DISABILITIES, IT'S A DIFFERENT CONCEPT.
BUT THESE ARE VERY WEALTHY INSTITUTIONS WHO CAN AFFORD TO PAY FOR THEIR GUESTS COMING TO TOWN.
UM, I WAS ALSO STRUCK BY, UH, JOAN POLANCO THIS WEEK AT THE MEETING, UH, AT THE ALAMEDA BAY YACHT CLUB.
SHE'S VERY MUCH INTERESTED IN GETTING MORE COMMISSIONERS ON OUR MAC.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE OF THIS.
AND SHE'S DOING A REALLY GREAT JOB OF REACHING OUT TO HER BOATING COMMUNITY AND OTHERS WHO HAVE AN INTEREST IN OUR MARINAS, WHOEVER THAT MAY BE THE PUBLIC, UM, TO SEND IN YOUR APPLICATIONS, FOLKS TALK UP OUR COMMISSION.
IF WE'VE HAD CANCELLATIONS OF OUR MEETINGS AS A RESULT OF A LACK OF A QUORUM, WE NEED MORE COMMISSIONERS.
I THINK THERE'S NO ARGUMENT AGAINST THAT.
WHAT COULD WE BE DOING IN ORDER TO PROMOTE, UM, QUALIFIED APPLICANTS FOR THE MAR ADVISORY COMMISSION FOR US TO BE ABLE TO READER MOVE AHEAD.
WELL, MAYBE YOU COULD WRITE A NOTE THAT GOES IN THE MARINA READER.
I'LL JUST CRI WHAT JOAN'S ALREADY WRITTEN UP.
YOU KNOW, IT'S A WAY TO GET PEOPLE THINKING ABOUT, UM, WHETHER THEY EVEN KNEW A MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION EVEN EXISTED, BUT HOW THEY MIGHT PARTICIPATE AS A MEMBER OF THE, OF THE PUBLIC IN IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, I WOULD ALSO ASK, UM, AND SHE DID REACH OUT TO, AND WAS, UM, STARTING WITH THE THIRD DISTRICT.
SHE WENT TO NICK AND CHRISTINA DUGGAN, WHO THEN ALSO SAID, WELL, THERE ARE TWO OTHER DISTRICTS IN LONG BEACH THAT ARE ALSO INVOLVED WITH THE, UM, BEACHES AND MARINAS ACCESS.
AND SO I'M SURE JOAN WENT TO THEM AS WELL.
COULD WE, COULD WE, UM, AS STAFF MEMBERS OF THE MARINE BUREAU APPROACH OUR ELECTEDS AND ASK FOR THE SAME SORT OF, UM, SORT OF CONSIDERATION OR OPPORTUNITY TO ADVERTISE THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION'S NEED FOR, UH, QUALIFIED CANDIDATES AT THIS POINT? IT'S ONE THING FOR JOAN WHO SHE CARRIES, UM, YOU KNOW, A BIG STICK REPRESENTING A LARGE GROUP OF FOLKS IN LONG BEACH WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THE WAY,
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UM, MARINE BUREAU MANAGES THEIR BUSINESS IN THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION.BUT SHOULDN'T OUR ELECTEDS ALSO BE SORT OF INVOLVED IN THIS? IF THERE WERE GREAT IDEA, THEY CAN PUT IT RIGHT ON THEIR WEBSITE, MADAM CHAIR, OR THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THEIR WEEKLY, YOU KNOW, EMAIL BLASTS TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS.
UM, AND IT MAY NOT JUST BE THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION THAT'S SUFFERING, LET'S SAY THERE MIGHT BE SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UM, NOT TO NECESSARILY GIVE THE MAC, UM, SOME SORT OF, YOU KNOW, PRECEDENCE, BUT THE NOTION THAT, YOU KNOW, MEMBERS OF THE, THE COMMUNITY CAN BE ENCOURAGED TO, TO APPLY FOR, UH, COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS.
I'LL CHECK WITH, UH, JEFF WILLIAMS AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
UM, AND THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, COMMISSIONS ARE COMMISSIONERS ARE APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT STEPPING ON ANY TOES IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE BY GOING DIRECT TO AND, AND WHAT, UM, WHAT JEFF AND THE MAYOR'S SCHEDULE IS FOR WHEN THEY PLAN.
BECAUSE HE SEEMS LIKE IT'S BEEN A COUPLE TIMES A YEAR HE IS LIMITED HIS APPOINTMENTS TOO.
AND MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE A CYCLE AGAIN UNTIL NEAR YEAR END.
JEFF KNOWS, UH, JEFF KNOWS WE ARE MM-HMM.
UH, IN NEED OF SEVERAL COMMISSIONERS THREE.
SO, UH, HE'S, HE'S, HE'S COMMITTED TO US THAT WHEN THEY HAVE VIABLE APPLICANTS THAT HE'S GONNA MOVE ON THOSE FOR THE MAR ADVISORY.
'CAUSE AS SOON AS HE CAN'T, BUT HE CAN'T MOVE UNLESS HE'S GOT APPLICANTS.
AND SO OUR OBJECTIVE, I THINK JOAN JONES, UM, UM, TO GIVE HER, YOU KNOW, THE INCREDIBLE, UM, CREDIT THAT SHE'S DUE PRETTY AMAZING FOR SOMEONE WHO IS NOT A RESIDENT IN THIS CITY.
AND THAT THE NOTION THAT WE JUST NEED LIVE BODIES TO SEND IN THEIR APPLICATIONS.
WE'RE NOT INTERFERING WITH THE CITY'S BUSINESS IN TERMS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, REVIEWING THOSE APPLICATIONS OR, YOU KNOW, APPROVING THEM AND, AND, AND MAKING THOSE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, OFFICIALLY COMMISSIONERS.
IT'S THE NOTION OF GETTING A BASE OF PEOPLE WHO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THE MISSION OF THE MARINE BUREAU AND THE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION.
SO, UM, ANY OTHER IDEAS? ANYTHING ELSE WE MIGHT WANNA CONSIDER FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? UM, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT A, UH, RETREAT FOR THE COMMISSION AND A TIME AND A PLACE FOR THAT AT SOME POINT.
ANY THOUGHTS AT THE END OF THE YEAR? WHEN ARE WE QUIET? WE DON'T HAVE A MEETING ONE MONTH.
USUALLY THE MONTH THAT WE, SO WE'VE HAD, WE'VE HAD FURTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
WE CAN HOLD SOMETHING AKIN TO WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST MM-HMM
BUT IT HAS TO BE A PUBLIC MEETING.
SO IT, IT WOULD BE A STANDARD MEETING, BUT WE WOULD JUST, YOU KNOW, AGENDIZE THE PRESENTATIONS AND THE, THE RESOURCES THAT WE BRING FORWARD FOR THAT RETREAT.
ADD THE ETHICS, THE ETHICS TOGETHER.
WE NEED TO HAVE OUR, UM, THE BROWN ACT, THE BROWN ACT.
WE NEED TO HAVE, UM, MILLI MM-HMM
UM, AGAIN, IT'S THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WAS VERY, UH, EXPLICIT IN SAYING THAT, YEAH, YOU CAN HAVE A RETREAT.
I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THAT AS A BARRIER TO HAVING A MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING DEDICATED TO, UM, A GREATER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OUR MISSION IS.
BUT WE SEE AS THE FUTURE, UM, THE IDEA THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE MAY HAVE SOME NEW MEMBERS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TIMING IS ON ANY NEW APPLICATIONS, BUT, UM, TO HELP THOSE PEOPLE BETTER UNDERSTAND THE GREATER GOALS.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU MIGHT WANT TO NO, I LIKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS AT THE END OF NUMBER FIVE.
UH, I GUESS WE'LL BRING THAT UP AT THE MEETING AND I THINK THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S JUST DONE FOR YOU, MADAM CHAIR, JUST STATING THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
UM, AND YOU CAN HAVE INPUT FROM THE TEAM, BUT I THINK THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF TIME AWAY, UH, IN THE SENSE OF MAKING IT MORE WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO COME TO MORE MEETINGS.
UH, TO BE ABLE TO HEAR IT INSTEAD OF JUST COMING TO, OH, I WANT TO GO SEE FINANCE, OR I WANT TO GO SEE RAIN MAINTENANCE.
IT'S ALL A PART OF OUR MEETING.
SO I THINK DEFINITELY LIKE THAT.
THIS, THAT WAS PART OF OUR COUNCIL MEETING.
AND TRADITIONALLY WE ARE THANKS TO OUR AND STELLAR STAFF.
I'M REFERRING TO THE FISCAL YEAR 27 BUDGET, UH, SEPTEMBER 8TH.
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REQUEST THE CITY MANAGER TO ESTABLISH A LIMIT OF NO MORE THAN TWO REGULAR MEETINGS PER MONTH FOR EACH CITY COMMISSION UNLESS OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED.UM, WHETHER THAT WOULD'VE INCLUDE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS OR, AND NOT THAT WE WERE EXCEEDING THIS NUMBER BY ANY MEANS.
BUT THE IDEA IS THAT THIS IS A, UM, A MOTION FOR I THINK JUST FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY AND REDUCING STAFF TIME AND COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES.
SO WE WENT OUTTA THE CURVE LAST WEEK.
UM, SO I WILL GET YOU SOMETHING ON MEL.
HE'S NOT DOING A POWERPOINT, BUT I WILL MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S THE CASE.
AND I WILL INVITE HIM FOR A 15 OR MAYBE EVEN 20 MINUTE PRESENTATION, UM,
AND THEN, UM, WE WILL LOOK FORWARD TO MORE INFORMATION ABOUT PUBLIC SPACES AND THE ABILITY OF THE MARINE ADVISORY MM-HMM
COMMISSION TO UTILIZE A MEETING ROOM OUTSIDE IN, SOMEWHERE WITHIN OUR AREA, OUR FOOTPRINT THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE A COST, IT'S EASILY ACCESSIBLE AND, UM, AVAILABLE FOR OUR USE ON A MONTHLY BASIS.
SO DID YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE TIME OF THIS MEETING? OH, I WOULD.
SO, UM, AS I STATED, I'M NOT EXACTLY AT MY SPARKLING BEST AT EIGHT 30 IN THE MORNING.
UM, AND I DON'T HAVE CHILDREN TO DROP OFF AT SCHOOL.
SO, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND AND WOULD WELCOME ANY COMMENTS, UM, TO MOVING THE MEETING BACK, PROVIDED STAFF IS ABLE TO MANAGE THAT WITHIN YOUR BUSY SCHEDULES.
UM, COULD I RECOMMEND NINE O'CLOCK? ABOUT NINE 30.
GIVES ME TIME WHENEVER YOU'D LIKE, GIVES ME TIME TO GO GET COFFEE AND BRING OH, AND BRING DONUTS.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THEN PROVIDED, UM, OUR, UM, MARINE BUREAU STAFF ARE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THIS TO MOVE OUR MEETINGS FOR THE, CAN YOU, YOUR KIDS NINE AND STUFF? I KNOW YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF CHILDREN.
THAT, UM, DO WE NEED A MOTION? NO, WE'RE GOOD.
THANK YOU FOR, UM, UH, ALLOWING ME TO INFLUENCE THAT.
UM, I'M A LITTLE BIT BETTER LATER IN THE MORNING.
YOU GONNA ADJOURN THE MEETING? YES, I WOULD.
UM, I WOULD SAY THAT WE HAVE A, UM, A, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, WELL, WE HAVE A, A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO RECOMMEND AND DISCUSS FUTURE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION AGENDA ITEMS. CAN WE HAVE A VOTE? AYE.
UM, AND SO THE MOTION CARRIES TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION FOR FUTURE MARINE ADVISORY COMMISSION AGENDA ITEMS. WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT OPPORTUNITY HERE.
AND SEEING NONE, WE CAN MOVE ON TO ANNOUNCEMENTS.
I'D JUST LIKE TO CLOSE WITH THE, THE TRAGIC ACCIDENT THAT HAPPENED IN CATALINA LAST NIGHT.
I THINK THAT'S JUST, UH, I'M, THEY'RE MISSING A COUPLE PEOPLE.
AND IT WAS, UH, A MEDICAL, YEAH.
MEDICAL, UH, LIFE FLIGHT, UH, THAT TOOK OFF AND A MINUTE LATER CRASHED INTO THE OCEAN.
SO IT'S JUST, UH, UM, JUST KEEP THEM IN YOUR THOUGHTS IN PRAYERS.
ALL THE FAMILY'S AFFECTED BY THAT.
AND I DIDN'T MAKE THE VACATION, MADAM CHAIR, OR I COULD HAVE MADE IT, BUT MY MOTHER-IN-LAW DID PASS.
UM, AND IT WAS, UH, UH, IT WAS PRETTY SPECIAL.
EVERYBODY WAS THERE, SO, UH, YEAH.
AND IT'S, UH, UH, YEAH, YOU CHERISH LIFE.
WE ALL HAVE FRIENDS THAT IT GOES THROUGH, BUT WE CHERISH LIFE.
SO, UH, APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP.
AND ON THOSE, UM, AND ON THOSE WORDS, I'LL, UH, ADJOURN THE MEETING AT, UH, NINE 30.